POST MATCH: Leeds

[SerbianLad]

Wilson out wide is a waste.

Why have him picking the ball up on the right hand touchline at the halfway line?

Push him upfront alongside Raul for godsake.

Wilson played in the middle today. Sess was on the right.

[Jimsbeerbelly]

Just a real shite game of football today with awful performances from both sides. Neither team deserved the win but it is what it is. That performance was coming. Hopefully its out of our system now. We move on.

All I'm seeing are Leeds fans saying how sh1t we are. They need a good hammering from someone soon.

Let's ben honest, Leeds could be bottom, 30 pts adrift from safety, and their fans would could Man City sh1t after a 10-0 hammering. Entitled, horrible fans, who think their club are the biggest, best club in the world. If they don't go down this season, they will next.

[ffc73]

To be fair to Leeds fans, they are only saying what Everton fans said after we failed to turn up there last autumn.

[jayffc]

Yeah to be fair, they saw the worst version of Fulham today so no suprise they think that.

. No idea what Marco was thinking with all the tinkering of a winning side.

Hopefully we have a fuller squad and can absolutely batter them next time we see them.

[Mr White]

Unless I have missed something I can't see where anyone has laid blame for the goal, which is most unusual as someone is always to blame.
You could blame all 5 players before they put the cross in.
Just clear the bloody BALL !!

[AJW48361]

Row z would've been handy how many attempts did have to clear before they scored?

[Mr White]

Row z would've been handy how many attempts did have to clear before they scored?

100% so frustrating

[jarv]

Only one point lost.  Never looked like winning the game. Onwards and upwards, who is next?

[KentFulham]

Only one point lost.  Never looked like winning the game. Onwards and upwards, who is next?

Not sure I can see it as 1 poi t lost, we went into a game against a team in 16th with a defensive setup. We should be going out to win those games 2, 3 nil

[cookieg]

I think these comments about Berge are very harsh.

Also, I see a pattern, whenever we play Berge and Lukic together and we lose that's always the reason we lost, and when they play together and we win, pretty much everyone is quiet, they get no credit.

To those saying we looked better with TC on, how? We created no chances and we conceded a lot of excellent chances. Leno made a terrific save to prevents us from losing by 2 goals. Even if you look at stats, with Berge-Lukic together, Leeds had 7 shots, with TC on pitch (he came on in the 66th minute) Leeds also had 7 shots. So same amount of shots in less than half of the minutes. Also 4/5 of their shots on target happened during that period. Going forwards is the same thing. Our only shot on target was in first half(Lukic). xG of our chances before TC came in was 0.30 and we only created 0.09 after. In the first half we also had some good attacks that died after misplaced passes that could have been goal chances(e.g. when Raul almost put it on a plate for Wilson only for it to be intercepted).

I don't think either one of them were amazing (but who was), but subs didn't help at all either and the midfield that started was the right choice, considering the physicality of their midfield.

But I guess it's always easy to blame Berge and/or Lukic for our losses. Neither one was one of our top 4-5 worst performers today.

You need to be careful. The TC police will be after you.

[Andrew]

I think these comments about Berge are very harsh.

Also, I see a pattern, whenever we play Berge and Lukic together and we lose that's always the reason we lost, and when they play together and we win, pretty much everyone is quiet, they get no credit.

To those saying we looked better with TC on, how? We created no chances and we conceded a lot of excellent chances. Leno made a terrific save to prevents us from losing by 2 goals. Even if you look at stats, with Berge-Lukic together, Leeds had 7 shots, with TC on pitch (he came on in the 66th minute) Leeds also had 7 shots. So same amount of shots in less than half of the minutes. Also 4/5 of their shots on target happened during that period. Going forwards is the same thing. Our only shot on target was in first half(Lukic). xG of our chances before TC came in was 0.30 and we only created 0.09 after. In the first half we also had some good attacks that died after misplaced passes that could have been goal chances(e.g. when Raul almost put it on a plate for Wilson only for it to be intercepted).

I don't think either one of them were amazing (but who was), but subs didn't help at all either and the midfield that started was the right choice, considering the physicality of their midfield.

But I guess it's always easy to blame Berge and/or Lukic for our losses. Neither one was one of our top 4-5 worst performers today.

You need to be careful. The TC police will be after you.

We looked better when Tom came on because he picked up the ball and played it better. The other players responded to that and then the centre backs reverted to hoofing it up the filed cutting him out, and that dies not help. Further there was zero movement in front of him so unable to pick a pass to create danger.

If we would have started with him and Berge and put wilson on the right and sess on the left we may have stood a chance.

[Sting of the North]

I think these comments about Berge are very harsh.

Also, I see a pattern, whenever we play Berge and Lukic together and we lose that's always the reason we lost, and when they play together and we win, pretty much everyone is quiet, they get no credit.

To those saying we looked better with TC on, how? We created no chances and we conceded a lot of excellent chances. Leno made a terrific save to prevents us from losing by 2 goals. Even if you look at stats, with Berge-Lukic together, Leeds had 7 shots, with TC on pitch (he came on in the 66th minute) Leeds also had 7 shots. So same amount of shots in less than half of the minutes. Also 4/5 of their shots on target happened during that period. Going forwards is the same thing. Our only shot on target was in first half(Lukic). xG of our chances before TC came in was 0.30 and we only created 0.09 after. In the first half we also had some good attacks that died after misplaced passes that could have been goal chances(e.g. when Raul almost put it on a plate for Wilson only for it to be intercepted).

I don't think either one of them were amazing (but who was), but subs didn't help at all either and the midfield that started was the right choice, considering the physicality of their midfield.

But I guess it's always easy to blame Berge and/or Lukic for our losses. Neither one was one of our top 4-5 worst performers today.

I think that when TC came on was the first time that it looked like we even had a clue on how to get past the half way line with some sort of control of the ball. That's how I think we looked better with TC. Not that anything of note really came from it.

Didn't help much overall though, since basically all players (maybe with the exception of ESR) had subpar performances. Dreadful game (from both teams, one might add), with some players (Jedi, Raul for example) looking like they were playing with an American football, and had never met any of their teammates before.

Just my two cents.

[john dempsey]

Only one point lost.  Never looked like winning the game. Onwards and upwards, who is next?

Not sure I can see it as 1 poi t lost, we went into a game against a team in 16th with a defensive setup. We should be going out to win those games 2, 3 nil

 underestimating the opposition,

Only one point lost.  Never looked like winning the game. Onwards and upwards, who is next?

Not sure I can see it as 1 poi t lost, we went into a game against a team in 16th with a defensive setup. We should be going out to win those games 2, 3 nil

 Any side thinking they could just rock up and
 win 2-3 nil is silly.
 is just stupid and usually ends
 up badly.

[Sgt Fulham]

Only one point lost.  Never looked like winning the game. Onwards and upwards, who is next?

Not sure I can see it as 1 poi t lost, we went into a game against a team in 16th with a defensive setup. We should be going out to win those games 2, 3 nil

An unearned arrogant comment. We're Fulham not Real Madrid, and every win in this league is a scrap for us. Remember that Man City, Chelsea, and Liverpool have all struggled against this Leeds side. They're not crap, just slightly below the mid table bunch.

Not saying we shouldn't expect to win, but we cant expect to just turn up and batter them.

[SerbianLad]

@cookieg @Sting of the North so we "looked better" despite creating less chances and conceding more. Sure, that makes perfect sense. There's no denying his importance in the Liverpool and Chelsea performances or the vital part he played in the Crystal Palace and Middlesbrough matches, but yesterday he really didn't have any sort of impact, objectively. That sub didn't improve us, if anything we got worse.

I also see people blaming Berge, or Raul or whoever and for some reason very few people blame Sess who was our worst player by a country mile. I think it's good that people aren't being overly critical of Sess, but some people are being very hypocritical, as they'd absolutely murder pretty much every other player if they played like that.

It seems like you can't say anything negative about e.g. TC and Sess. And I wasn't even being critical of TC. He did fine, I just don't think that change helped us improve, like some people do.

[Carborundum]

Watching Leeds this year, they have an admirable and sensible survival plan. Win the battle of midfield through energy and organisation because winning that battle leads to good overall outcomes.  It compensates for shortfalls in quality and it makes other players blossom - witness DCL.  They will stay up and Farke is doing a great job there.

So we turned up, in full knowledge of how Leeds go about games, with a midfield pair of Lukic and Berge who, whatever their individual merits, spent much of calendar year 2025 losing the battle of midfield when played as a pair.

We lost and the takeaway that they just don't work as a pair was so already apparent that one wonders if the penny will ever drop.

[acji]

Only one point lost.  Never looked like winning the game. Onwards and upwards, who is next?

Not sure I can see it as 1 poi t lost, we went into a game against a team in 16th with a defensive setup. We should be going out to win those games 2, 3 nil

An unearned arrogant comment. We're Fulham not Real Madrid, and every win in this league is a scrap for us. Remember that Man City, Chelsea, and Liverpool have all struggled against this Leeds side. They're not crap, just slightly below the mid table bunch.

Not saying we shouldn't expect to win, but we cant expect to just turn up and batter them.

You say that, but when did Real Madrid ever beat us eh! 

[WindyCity]

I just don't understand why, after an unbeaten run with nice results, MS would switch which side wingers would play on.  Wilson has had a nice run recently, always on the right side.  Why move him over to the other side?  And even with Sessegnon, who has collaborated in the past, though limited pairings, with Robinson on the left, have looked dangerous, and then move Sessegnon opposite side of Robinson?

I'd just like to know if there might have been some specific reasoning  as to why MS made these changes?  FFC on nice run, a winning formula, and this whole Leeds tilt looked way off, disjointed and out of sorts.

[Chi_FFC]

I just don't understand why, after an unbeaten run with nice results, MS would switch which side wingers would play on.  Wilson has had a nice run recently, always on the right side.  Why move him over to the other side?

He didn't move him to the "other side". HW played centrally.

And even with Sessegnon, who has collaborated in the past, though limited pairings, with Robinson on the left

When exactly has that happened? Sess has never started at LW for Fulham.

[WindyCity]

I just don't understand why, after an unbeaten run with nice results, MS would switch which side wingers would play on.  Wilson has had a nice run recently, always on the right side.  Why move him over to the other side?

He didn't move him to the "other side". HW played centrally.

And even with Sessegnon, who has collaborated in the past, though limited pairings, with Robinson on the left

When exactly has that happened? Sess has never started at LW for Fulham.

I did post 'limited pairings'. I just seem to recall several times? when they both played moving forward positions on the left.  Maybe I'm wrong?  And I do think Sessegnon has played LW at FFC.  Again, I could be wrong.  Also, not sure Sessegnon has ever played down the right side....