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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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hovewhite

In the AP role my belief in ESR is 100% he will succeed I know there's a negative view of ESR on this board
Despite on another thread you want younger players.

You cannot have it both ways young players aren't the finished article.

DM

Silva's thoughts are clear. Get the players he wants.

Also They like Harvey, just not that Harvey.

FFC1987

Quote from: DM on July 10, 2025, 12:38:09 PMSilva's thoughts are clear. Get the players he wants.

Also They like Harvey, just not that Harvey.


Assuming you mean because Elanga has gone to Newcastle, we're looking at Barnes. Which is nice and all, but Newcastle paid what, £40m+ on him so I can't imagine we're looking at anything near that figure, and Newcastle wouldn't be interested in anything that much lower than this figure especially considering how close to the mark they are on PSR and FFP.....


irish_mike

Quote from: DM on July 10, 2025, 12:38:09 PMSilva's thoughts are clear. Get the players he wants.

Also They like Harvey, just not that Harvey.

this cryptic stuff is pure nonsense by the way.

Entertain yourself if you must.

You remind me of a poster, who used to pretend to be "itk", and post a load of nonsense. I was a viewer then not a poster.


Putting you on block, but just a heads up for other posters. Don't waste your time. Ha

Fulham Tup North

 ::scarf:: Is it possible that Silva has decided who he wants and the Fulham team and working hard behind the scene's trying to negotiate deals with these people? This could be what is taking the time.
95% of the possible people mentioned may well not even interest Silva.
Surely as fans we don't want them just buying players for buying sake.
Unless Silva has stated somewhere that he is unhappy with the current progress?
Is it possible that when they come to announce who we have purchased we will all be very please indeed?

COYW  ::thumb::
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't,....you're right"

junior white

Quote from: irish_mike on July 10, 2025, 12:43:43 PM
Quote from: DM on July 10, 2025, 12:38:09 PMSilva's thoughts are clear. Get the players he wants.

Also They like Harvey, just not that Harvey.

this cryptic stuff is pure nonsense by the way.

Entertain yourself if you must.

You remind me of a poster, who used to pretend to be "itk", and post a load of nonsense. I was a viewer then not a poster.


Putting you on block, but just a heads up for other posters. Don't waste your time. Ha
Believe he means Harvey Barnes


Mickeyboro

#1946
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 10, 2025, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: StuinSalop on July 10, 2025, 10:38:06 AMWilson can also play in the 10.
He probably can but not so sure he would be effective in that role. I lean towards the reliance he has towards the left foot would make him quite predictable in the No 10 role.

Doesnt seem to have hindered TC!

Mickeyboro

Quote from: hovewhite on July 10, 2025, 12:36:48 PMIn the AP role my belief in ESR is 100% he will succeed I know there's a negative view of ESR on this board
Despite on another thread you want younger players.

You cannot have it both ways young players aren't the finished article.

This will be ESR's breakthrough season. There is a player in there.

Angus Telford

#1948
Quote from: jayffc on July 10, 2025, 11:08:10 AMEven if we sold AP At CAM, we have:
ESR
King
Cairney (potentially)
Wilson (VERY good at that position where he plays for Wales)
Iwobi (some still to this day argue it's his better position)

CAM is just not the priority position even if we sell AP.

Assuming we bring:

1 CF
1 CM in the 8 position
1 LW
1 backup GK

at least.

Even just that would easily allow us to deploy Iwobi or Wilson Centrally IF ESR/King really didn't live up to expectation... with Wilson/Iwobi/Sess/Traore/Godo/A new winger, there's enough cover out wide to move one of the first 2 central into a position we know they are plenty good at to start in the prem...and that's as back up.

IF TC moves on you could maybe look at another signing sure, but forking out another 20+ mil there already? We can't moan about youth not getting a chance and then block their pathway to the first team imo. King needs minutes, I'm all up for him going on loan in theory but if you bring in someone else it's just ANOTHER person between him and the first team when he gets back. So not a position I'd spend big on until ESR has another season to prove if he can step up and fulfill his potential.


But you are purely looking at depth there, not quality.

Yes we have about 5-6 options at #10 (I'd even consider playing Jiminez there) but none of them are brilliant.

As you say a backup for Leno or Lukic would be great - but those are rotation roles. I'd say first XI upgrades (where we can actually achieve them) are the biggest "priority".



irish_mike

Quote from: Mickeyboro on July 10, 2025, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 10, 2025, 12:36:48 PMIn the AP role my belief in ESR is 100% he will succeed I know there's a negative view of ESR on this board
Despite on another thread you want younger players.

You cannot have it both ways young players aren't the finished article.

This will be ESR's breakthrough season. There is a player in there.
id be pleasantly surprised.

Doesn't have the bottle in my opinion. Goes missing far too often. Only played 25 mins against Southampton away and looked exhausted

hovewhite

Quote from: Mickeyboro on July 10, 2025, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 10, 2025, 12:36:48 PMIn the AP role my belief in ESR is 100% he will succeed I know there's a negative view of ESR on this board
Despite on another thread you want younger players.

You cannot have it both ways young players aren't the finished article.

This will be ESR's breakthrough season. There is a player in there.
From the media I have viewed
He already looks fitter

jayffc

Wilson is known quality at CAM, brilliant there for Wales.

Iwobi is a starter for us, was one of our players of the season before falling off a bit towards the end, and also many argue he's as good at CAM if not better than he is at LW (certainly my arsenal buddies always said this) so it's not just depth like a poor backuop bench option - they're people who could legit start there in their own right and would cost us millions to buy if we went out looking for them.

And all of that is IF ESR doesnt hit the heights we expect from him and bought him here for. I would be suprised if the club just gave up on him that quickly after such an outlay, and if the club are confident in his improvement and moving passed the niggling injury issue he had last year, then why spend a significant portion of our budget there when there are so many other more important positions to cover where that money could be focussed. Namely - and obviously CF, CM, LW first. I'm all for having more great players in all positions but its not a priority, and club sources have said as such

ESR is a very talented player when in full flow, who even having an ok season if not a great one, managed 9 Goal contributions despite a niggling injury. I'm sure the club are hoping for more from him this coming season and I doubt they'd just give up on him being who they think he can be and replace him with a major £25m player the next summer. King is hotly tipped as a top talent and will be another year older chomping at the bit the get starting minutes. Those 4 seem very good compeition to me (+possibly TC)





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Angus Telford

Quote from: jayffc on July 10, 2025, 01:20:14 PMWilson is known quality at CAM, brilliant there for Wales.

Iwobi is a starter for us, was one of our players of the season before falling off a bit towards the end, and also many argue he's as good at CAM if not better than he is at LW (certainly my arsenal buddies always said this) so it's not just depth like a poor backuop bench option - they're people who could legit start there in their own right and would cost us millions to buy if we went out looking for them.

And all of that is IF ESR doesnt hit the heights we expect from him and bought him here for. I would be suprised if the club just gave up on him that quickly after such an outlay, and if the club are confident in his improvement and moving passed the niggling injury issue he had last year, then why spend a significant portion of our budget there when there are so many other more important positions to cover where that money could be focussed. Namely - and obviously CF, CM, LW first. I'm all for having more great players in all positions but its not a priority, and club sources have said as such

ESR is a very talented player when in full flow, who even having an ok season if not a great one, managed 9 Goal contributions despite a niggling injury. I'm sure the club are hoping for more from him this coming season and I doubt they'd just give up on him being who they think he can be and replace him with a major £25m player the next summer. King is hotly tipped as a top talent and will be another year older chomping at the bit the get starting minutes. Those 4 seem very good compeition to me (+possibly TC)



If any of those are an upgrade on AP, they should theoretically have started ahead of him most weeks in the #10 role in the season just gone. And yet, they didn't...

hopper

I don't think there's any justification for us being last every window other than unprofessionalism from the club. While I accept that the outcomes have been fine, and that's the most important thing - it does nothing to help the manager who would love to have new players in at the start of pre-season. Some signings can arrive late and do well, but we so often see a player progress after a full pre-season.

I know there's PSR arguments etc; but we're last on just about everything - season ticket, pre season dates, kits. That combined with the diminishing relationship between fans and the clubs just gives the impression of a pretty dysfunctional operation. Supposedly the Jags also have this reputation.

While yes it's more important to get the right players in than get them soon, I really don't see why it's not possible to be able to do both - even if some deals are done later in the window.

Angus Telford

Quote from: hopper on July 10, 2025, 02:00:39 PMI don't think there's any justification for us being last every window other than unprofessionalism from the club. While I accept that the outcomes have been fine, and that's the most important thing - it does nothing to help the manager who would love to have new players in at the start of pre-season. Some signings can arrive late and do well, but we so often see a player progress after a full pre-season.

I know there's PSR arguments etc; but we're last on just about everything - season ticket, pre season dates, kits. That combined with the diminishing relationship between fans and the clubs just gives the impression of a pretty dysfunctional operation. Supposedly the Jags also have this reputation.

While yes it's more important to get the right players in than get them soon, I really don't see why it's not possible to be able to do both - even if some deals are done later in the window.

Agreed.

There are logically only two explanations.

Either we are less competent than other clubs at getting deals done.

Or we care less than other clubs about getting players in promptly.


FFC1987

Quote from: Angus Telford on July 10, 2025, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: hopper on July 10, 2025, 02:00:39 PMI don't think there's any justification for us being last every window other than unprofessionalism from the club. While I accept that the outcomes have been fine, and that's the most important thing - it does nothing to help the manager who would love to have new players in at the start of pre-season. Some signings can arrive late and do well, but we so often see a player progress after a full pre-season.

I know there's PSR arguments etc; but we're last on just about everything - season ticket, pre season dates, kits. That combined with the diminishing relationship between fans and the clubs just gives the impression of a pretty dysfunctional operation. Supposedly the Jags also have this reputation.

While yes it's more important to get the right players in than get them soon, I really don't see why it's not possible to be able to do both - even if some deals are done later in the window.

Agreed.

There are logically only two explanations.

Either we are less competent than other clubs at getting deals done.

Or we care less than other clubs about getting players in promptly.

But we know why. Khan has openly said in multiple windows. Best value for both players available, and price routinely happen towards the end of a window.

irish_mike

Quote from: hopper on July 10, 2025, 02:00:39 PMI don't think there's any justification for us being last every window other than unprofessionalism from the club. While I accept that the outcomes have been fine, and that's the most important thing - it does nothing to help the manager who would love to have new players in at the start of pre-season. Some signings can arrive late and do well, but we so often see a player progress after a full pre-season.

I know there's PSR arguments etc; but we're last on just about everything - season ticket, pre season dates, kits. That combined with the diminishing relationship between fans and the clubs just gives the impression of a pretty dysfunctional operation. Supposedly the Jags also have this reputation.

While yes it's more important to get the right players in than get them soon, I really don't see why it's not possible to be able to do both - even if some deals are done later in the window.
The club under Alistair Macintosh has always treated the fans with disdain in terms of information.

Very reclusive. You can see what he thinks of "legacy" fans with the way he treats the supporters trust.

Not a nice man, despite winning "CEO of the year" lol