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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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Craven Mad

Quote from: WindyCity on July 11, 2025, 03:37:12 PM25m for Arokodare, I say open the wallet.......

I know people will hate me for this, but his goals-to-xG does worry me a bit.

He's typically scoring far fewer goals than his xG would expect, which indicates he's not the most clinical striker. Given that he's playing in a much weaker league, it's fair to assume it'd be even worse when he's against better defenders/keepers.

I'm just not 100% certain he's going to be good enough for the prem, albeit, saying that, he's a good age/profile and has scored a lot of goals, so I may be very wrong!

Angus Telford

#2061
Things like Bournemouth having to replace a couple of players, or Forest potentially not getting the same quality from Wood next year, is swings and roundabouts stuff IMO. We saw major drop-offs in performance from Leno and Perreira last year, arguably from Muniz's 23/24 purple patch too. This year I'd expect Tete, Andersen, Cairney and Jiminez to enter or extend their decline. These things happen. Assuming we've some sort of advantage there is very wishful thinking IMO (I'd say clutching at straws). Forest could suffer an almost 20% drop in performance and still stay above us. The real difference will be those 4 or 5 big first team signings each club makes, or doesn't make, between now and the end of the window. At the moment we're hardly excelling on that which is why people are moaning, but let's see.

South Coast White

I think I'd prefer Romolo Cardosa tbh.


South Coast White


ffcthereligion

Quote from: Chi_FFC on July 11, 2025, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2025, 12:41:17 PMI can easily see us leapfrog Forest as well. They'll lose two of their best players, and Wood will likely never have a year close to last season again.
You could say the same about their GK. He was a career below average shot stopper in the French league. Forest buys him out of desperation in January 2024 (the third GK they purchased that season) and in that half season he puts up the worst shot stopping numbers in the PL. Then last season at age 32/33 he has a career year (2nd in the PL in goals prevented...for comparison Leno was 17th). Forest had a LOT of things go right for them last season and I agree that they're a team that could see a significant drop off this coming season.

 

So on this basis Lukic will be back to being bang average too?

Chi_FFC

Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 11, 2025, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: Chi_FFC on July 11, 2025, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2025, 12:41:17 PMI can easily see us leapfrog Forest as well. They'll lose two of their best players, and Wood will likely never have a year close to last season again.
You could say the same about their GK. He was a career below average shot stopper in the French league. Forest buys him out of desperation in January 2024 (the third GK they purchased that season) and in that half season he puts up the worst shot stopping numbers in the PL. Then last season at age 32/33 he has a career year (2nd in the PL in goals prevented...for comparison Leno was 17th). Forest had a LOT of things go right for them last season and I agree that they're a team that could see a significant drop off this coming season.

 

So on this basis Lukic will be back to being bang average too?
Huh???


irish_mike

I am so so glad we dont have that Greek fella as our owner. No class.

Would prefer the Brazilian striker too

Deuce

Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2025, 12:41:17 PMI can easily see us leapfrog Forest as well. They'll lose two of their best players, and Wood will likely never have a year close to last season again. Unless they really nail the replacements I can see them finishing bottom half for sure.

If Palace lose Eze, they may also lose a lot of their momentum.

Not worried personally, if anything I believe we underperformed last year with this squad. Some good additions and we may well improve quite a lot against the poor teams.
Forest will do well to finish mid table this season, especially now after losing Elanga and MGW.

Palace is like us in a way. Solid side and even tho losing Eze will hurt them, im sure they will spend that money wiseley. They did fine after Olise.

 Selling Andersen and getting Lacroix was a smart move.

hopper

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on July 11, 2025, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: Jim© on July 11, 2025, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Chi_FFC on July 11, 2025, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2025, 12:41:17 PMI can easily see us leapfrog Forest as well. They'll lose two of their best players, and Wood will likely never have a year close to last season again.
You could say the same about their GK. He was a career below average shot stopper in the French league. Forest buys him out of desperation in January 2024 (the third GK they purchased that season) and in that half season he puts up the worst shot stopping numbers in the PL. Then last season at age 32/33 he has a career year (2nd in the PL in goals prevented...for comparison Leno was 17th). Forest had a LOT of things go right for them last season and I agree that they're a team that could see a significant drop off this coming season.

 

Couldn't agree more. I watched a fair bit of them last season, and despite winning a load of games, i couln't help but think "how the bloody hell did they win that". In one game home to Southampton, they were terrible, on the back foot for half an hour but were winning 3 nil with XG of 0.24. I know a few will comment and say "XG means nothing"/ "that's why it's a stupid stat" etc, but goes to show how bad they were. Wood won't play like that again and nor will their keeper I'd imagine. However, i think Anderson is one of the most underrated players in the Prem at the moment.

Yep very jammy. I couldn't help but laugh at their end of season capitulation.

By dint of fortune they've just fallen upward to Europa League after multi club ownership conflict. Rather unfortunate for Palace as Textor has sold his shares; meanwhile Marinakis' Olympiakos are going to be in Europa alongside them.

There was a deadline of sorts and Marinakis changed some paperwork to say he was not in control or something along those lines.

Aware this is not transfer talk, so please forgive me those who want it limited to transfers.


Thailand Mick

#2069
Quote from: Whitestone on July 11, 2025, 03:16:51 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on July 11, 2025, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: SP on July 11, 2025, 01:29:52 PMFrom the Beeb, I thought FFC fans had more of a backbone:

'No signing or confirmation from Fulham. Their silence on the transfer market is damaging my enthusiasm and hopes for the next season. Do they have a plan at all???????'

Chris, London, frustrated Fulham Fan.
This guy is the one that opened all his Christmas presents at 01:00am and then sat around watching everybody else open their present later that morning thinking why didn't I wait.

Or alternatively he makes a good point.
Do they have a plan, we'll unless he's calling Marco a liar because he has already stated that everything has been planned since January. Regarding enthusiasm I for one am still looking forward to see who we may sign rather than being disappointed that we signed underwhelming players. And of course there's no confirmation until we sign someone and we all know Fulham like to keep their dealings quiet. Has he even thought that all our top targets are still available but won't commit to us just yet.

bill taylors apprentice

Quote from: bencher on July 11, 2025, 09:01:53 AMThis thread's title really is a misnomer.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the interest in signing Luke Harris from us. The real "news", or at least rumours, is on the daily news roundup.

So with that said, what are people's views if we end up selling Luke Harris. Personally, I haven't seen too much of him, but when I have done, I have not felt he has what it takes to to cut it at PL level. He has something of the Sessegnon about him, arriving late to score goals, but doesn't dominate the match enough for me to think he could be a force at this level. He was not a regular starter at League 1 level for Birmingham. On the other hand, he is still relatively young, and perhaps a loan at a less ambitious Championship club where he would start regularly would be a last chance to prove himself. Then he'll either be good enough to challenge for our matchday squad, or will be worth selling for decent cash.

He's 20 now and IMO he doesn't look robust enough to play in the PL anytime soon so needs to find a club that he can play for regularly.
Selling good young players who come through the academy and for various reasons don't make it to the first team helps the club.
He's no Carvalho, Sessignon or Elliot so cash in now!

bencher

Quote from: Craven Mad on July 11, 2025, 03:45:52 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on July 11, 2025, 03:37:12 PM25m for Arokodare, I say open the wallet.......

I know people will hate me for this, but his goals-to-xG does worry me a bit.

He's typically scoring far fewer goals than his xG would expect, which indicates he's not the most clinical striker. Given that he's playing in a much weaker league, it's fair to assume it'd be even worse when he's against better defenders/keepers.

I'm just not 100% certain he's going to be good enough for the prem, albeit, saying that, he's a good age/profile and has scored a lot of goals, so I may be very wrong!

From watching limited YT highlights (I know...), Arokodare seems a tap in merchant. Didn't see him score a single difficult goal. I know you have to be right place, right time, and players like Lineker and Ian Rush made a goal-mad career out of it, but I don't see that being enough in the modern PL.

Romulo on the other hand seems much more of an all-rounder that could blossom.


JimmyConway

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on July 11, 2025, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 11, 2025, 11:56:11 AMNot sure about any of the above but did hear something along the lines of Saudi Tax year finishing end of June or early July so nothing could be finalised until this time where Henderson is concerned.

Why would that affect Henderson given he's joining from Ajax?
Something to do with Tax implications. When you sign for a team in Saudi apparently there is a timescale to when it's Tax exempt and when not or something along those lines. Though he had gone to Ajax he still came under a restriction.

Jims Dentist

Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2025, 01:19:23 PMBees, Forest, Boscombe, Brighton and maybe Palace have lost some good players. However, they also have a load of money to spend. The question is how well will they spend it
Considering how they've done in the last few seasons, I would guess they will spend it a whole lot better than we would.
Particularly when buying players who are likely to have really good sell on value.

RAY Rock

Arokodare is going to be a beast in a few seasons i would sell Raul  and buy both of them Romulo and Arokodare. Someone will pay 5-6 for Raul and get his wages and split his wages between both strikers 60k a week each . Job done if Muniz throws his toys out we have his replacements already in the building and spurs ,Newcastle and Leeds can get into a bidding war  45 million plus 5 in add ons should do it.


Tabby

#2075
Quote from: Jims Dentist on July 11, 2025, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2025, 01:19:23 PMBees, Forest, Boscombe, Brighton and maybe Palace have lost some good players. However, they also have a load of money to spend. The question is how well will they spend it
Considering how they've done in the last few seasons, I would guess they will spend it a whole lot better than we would.
Particularly when buying players who are likely to have really good sell on value.
I will concede that Brighton generally perform better than us and Forest had a great season last year, but there is a lot of overhype of teams around us imo. Just looked up the points from the last three seasons and the table stands:
Fulham 152
Brentford 152
Crystal Palace 147
Bournemouth 139

I also wouldn't say that any of the teams outperfomed us by a significant margin during a single season other than possibly Brentford in our promotion season when they ended 7 points ahead. Other than that last season is the one where we were the most outperformed by these teams, by a massive 2 point margin.

So the question is, how are they consistently performing at the same level as we are despite being brilliant in the transfer market? Frank, Glasner and Iraola are generally higher rated than Silva as well, so it shouldn't be our far superior manager. Are we just chronically lucky?

Nero

#2076


New contract for Luc

By Laurie Martin

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The Club is delighted to announce that Luc De Fougerolles has signed a new contract with Fulham.

The 19-year-old has agreed terms on a deal that keeps him at Craven Cottage until 2029.

After putting pen to paper, Luc told fulhamfc.com: "I'm happy that I've signed a long-term deal and hopefully can break in and start playing some games for Fulham at some point.

"It's my local club, I went to loads of games growing up, I know all the staff, all the players. It's a great club and I love it here, so signing a new contract is amazing, and I can't wait to have another four years here."

Tony Khan added: "I'm very happy to announce that we have signed Luc De Foug on a long-term contract and he will be with Fulham until at least 2029.

"It's particularly pleasing as Luc has been with the Club since he was eight years old, so he really is part of the Fulham family. He is a talented young player who was particularly impressive for Canada at the Gold Cup this summer.

"He has a bright future ahead and we are delighted he's committed to Fulham for the long-term.

"Congratulations Luc! Come on Fulham!"

Luc joined Fulham as an Under-9 and has progressed through the age groups, earning his First Team debut in November 2023 with a very composed display in a Carabao Cup victory at Ipswich Town.

His senior international debut followed a few months later, coming on as a substitute in Canada's 2-0 victory over Trinidad & Tobago.

Last season, Luc fought hard to recover from a lengthy injury in order to return for the final five matches of the Under-21s' campaign.

He made up for a lack of football with a busy summer, though, impressing in Canada's Gold Cup campaign, adding five more caps to his growing tally as they reached the Quarter-Final stage.



Stoneleigh Loyalist

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on July 11, 2025, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: bencher on July 11, 2025, 09:01:53 AMThis thread's title really is a misnomer.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the interest in signing Luke Harris from us. The real "news", or at least rumours, is on the daily news roundup.

So with that said, what are people's views if we end up selling Luke Harris. Personally, I haven't seen too much of him, but when I have done, I have not felt he has what it takes to to cut it at PL level. He has something of the Sessegnon about him, arriving late to score goals, but doesn't dominate the match enough for me to think he could be a force at this level. He was not a regular starter at League 1 level for Birmingham. On the other hand, he is still relatively young, and perhaps a loan at a less ambitious Championship club where he would start regularly would be a last chance to prove himself. Then he'll either be good enough to challenge for our matchday squad, or will be worth selling for decent cash.

He's 20 now and IMO he doesn't look robust enough to play in the PL anytime soon so needs to find a club that he can play for regularly.
Selling good young players who come through the academy and for various reasons don't make it to the first team helps the club.
He's no Carvalho, Sessignon or Elliot so cash in now!


When all of the hype was about Carvalho when he was with us Marco went on record as saying that Harris was the best youn* player on our books. He has had injuries but generally Harris has not come on as expected. He was on the edge of the Wales squad but does not get a look in now.


St Eve

Quote from: Jim© on July 11, 2025, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2025, 01:19:23 PMBees, Forest, Boscombe, Brighton and maybe Palace have lost some good players. However, they also have a load of money to spend. The question is how well will they spend it

It's all relative though- the minimal money that Brentford get for Norgaard won't replace his influence on the team at all.
I'd like us to get a few deals over the line though...

Except their 2 forwards are likely to go

hopper

Quote from: Tabby on July 11, 2025, 05:40:56 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on July 11, 2025, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2025, 01:19:23 PMBees, Forest, Boscombe, Brighton and maybe Palace have lost some good players. However, they also have a load of money to spend. The question is how well will they spend it
Considering how they've done in the last few seasons, I would guess they will spend it a whole lot better than we would.
Particularly when buying players who are likely to have really good sell on value.
I will concede that Brighton generally perform better than us and Forest had a great season last year, but there is a lot of overhype of teams around us imo. Just looked up the points from the last three seasons and the table stands:
Fulham 152
Brentford 152
Crystal Palace 147
Bournemouth 139

I also wouldn't say that any of the teams outperfomed us by a significant margin during a single season other than possibly Brentford in our promotion season when they ended 7 points ahead. Other than that last season is the one where we were the most outperformed by these teams, by a massive 2 point margin.

So the question is, how are they consistently performing at the same level as we are despite being brilliant in the transfer market? Frank, Glasner and Iraola are generally higher rated than Silva as well, so it shouldn't be our far superior manager. Are we just chronically lucky?

The Silva thing is perplexing. I think there's a difference between how he's seen in the game, and by fans/pundits.

His track record before Fulham is far better than it's made out to be and is rather perplexing. It's working in our favour for now. Spurs fans comments towards him were hyperbolically negative.

In terms of transfers I think the B's are heralded as they buy more obscure, younger players and sell on at profit. Whereas our strategy has been more known quantities. Points total shows though that in terms of success we're more than matching those clubs.

I have my frustrations which I've gone into on timing and leaving it late; but the outcomes have been pretty good for some time now. Gonna be interesting to see who we bring in, luckily no big replacements needed, just a few additions who raise our ceiling.