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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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hopper

This is interesting that the Chukwueze move seems to be moving, wonder what it means for Nelson deal.

Can't say I've followed his career closely, but there was one game v Madrid where he absolutely tore them up. Seems like a player with amazing technical ability, but it's about whether that can be harnessed.

If this was an Adama replacement I'd be fairly happy. AFCON is a downer but with Wilson, Sess, Smith Row, King and potentially Nelson who can play there we should be able to manage without him and Iwobi.


Hugh Janus

Quote from: Thailand Mick on July 31, 2025, 08:42:06 AM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on July 30, 2025, 07:13:27 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on July 30, 2025, 06:11:51 PMIf Newcastle sells Isak at £80m it's only logical that they look at Muniz and will be difficult to stop at £55M

As much as I don't want it to happen...

£55M will go a long way at a striker and younger talented player, so very difficult for Fulham. To hold onto him (with a higher wage & champions league football)
£55m for Muniz? Fancy valuing my house?
just out of interest did you think Brentford would get 71m for Mbuemo at the start of the transfer window?

No but I think Mbuemo is worth a lot more than Muniz. Mbuemo is proven. Muniz is way too inconsistent.

Tabby

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 31, 2025, 09:49:44 AMIt all just feels a little safe does it not? Don't get me wrong, I do 'get' it, we're stable, we're okay, but Nelson, Chukweze, Sterling, Dewsbury-Hall? Just doesn't have me excited for next season personally.

To use a horse racing analogy, none of our targets are lightly raced unexposed could be anything types, instead they're all tried and tested over course and distance, solid performers in handicaps but no fireworks

Out of interest, what sort of 'name' would excite you then? As the names you mentioned, have some serious talent between them.

Someone below the age of 25 that hasn't had their career stalled out.

Romulo, Ardon Jashari (who has publicly said he turned down Fulham earlier in the summer), McAtee (pulling some links from this window the top of my head). Someone that can come and develop instead of rekindling lost potential.

ESR and Bassey are decent examples of players that we have signed recently that are a bit more exciting.


ffcthereligion

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 31, 2025, 09:49:44 AMIt all just feels a little safe does it not? Don't get me wrong, I do 'get' it, we're stable, we're okay, but Nelson, Chukweze, Sterling, Dewsbury-Hall? Just doesn't have me excited for next season personally.

To use a horse racing analogy, none of our targets are lightly raced unexposed could be anything types, instead they're all tried and tested over course and distance, solid performers in handicaps but no fireworks

Out of interest, what sort of 'name' would excite you then? As the names you mentioned, have some serious talent between them.

Absolutely accept that mate. Its a personal, and maybe slightly irrational thing. 'Excitement' is a feeling and probably comes from signing a few players you've never heard of that you can project anything onto. Given they're an unknown quantity there is a sense of limitless potential. Obviously, that is a recipe for disappointment haha, but its part of the joy of being a fan to find a Palhinha, or even our Huijsen or Mitoma etc

FFC1987

Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 31, 2025, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 31, 2025, 09:49:44 AMIt all just feels a little safe does it not? Don't get me wrong, I do 'get' it, we're stable, we're okay, but Nelson, Chukweze, Sterling, Dewsbury-Hall? Just doesn't have me excited for next season personally.

To use a horse racing analogy, none of our targets are lightly raced unexposed could be anything types, instead they're all tried and tested over course and distance, solid performers in handicaps but no fireworks

Out of interest, what sort of 'name' would excite you then? As the names you mentioned, have some serious talent between them.

Absolutely accept that mate. Its a personal, and maybe slightly irrational thing. 'Excitement' is a feeling and probably comes from signing a few players you've never heard of that you can project anything onto. Given they're an unknown quantity there is a sense of limitless potential. Obviously, that is a recipe for disappointment haha, but its part of the joy of being a fan to find a Palhinha, or even our Huijsen or Mitoma etc

Yeh, I'm not having a pop fella, just genuinely interested is all.

Tabby, aren't ESR and Bassey prime examples of exciting players who showed potential but peated out a bit so we're rekindling as well though? or was that your point?




Deuce

Quote from: Tabby on July 31, 2025, 06:59:29 AM
Quote from: OZ-WHITE on July 31, 2025, 01:20:55 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 31, 2025, 01:11:32 AMWe do need a LB cover so we can free Sess to play on the wings where he's more dangerous.
A Loan deal for Harry Amass from Man U would be a great option for cover a LB to free up Sess to play LW - yes he's young but already given senior game time , would be a great development for him to learn from Robinson

Why would they loan him out to sit on the bench here? Might as well stay ant united and learn from Shaw.
Ah Yes, the ancient wisdom of how not to play and still raking it in

General

Quote from: Count Flapula on July 31, 2025, 09:25:15 AMJust don't see why we need 2 extra wingers really, unless someone is being sold.

We have Wilson, Iwobi, Adama, ESR, Sess, King, Godo (possibly going on loan to a Champ side?) all vying for those spots.

One in to fill the gap left by Nelson? Sure. But a second on top of that is only going to get in the way of playing time for these guys so someone must be off.

You could argue we need a Nelson replacement plus another if Godo goes on loan, but for me it's vital King gets more minutes this season for his development so 2 extra bodies in could block that.

If we do get 2 in then so long as both are a clear improvement on the above then great; or youngsters with a higher potential ceiling. But then sell one - otherwise 2 of a similar level in/none out would be counterproductive/a bit overly congested IMO. 

It's about improving squad depth and quality - and improving our starting line-up. We were lacking in goals in pivotal games last season that could've pushed us up the league/given us a European spot.

The squad depth/quality also increases performance levels and competition.


hopper

Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 31, 2025, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on July 31, 2025, 09:49:44 AMIt all just feels a little safe does it not? Don't get me wrong, I do 'get' it, we're stable, we're okay, but Nelson, Chukweze, Sterling, Dewsbury-Hall? Just doesn't have me excited for next season personally.

To use a horse racing analogy, none of our targets are lightly raced unexposed could be anything types, instead they're all tried and tested over course and distance, solid performers in handicaps but no fireworks

Out of interest, what sort of 'name' would excite you then? As the names you mentioned, have some serious talent between them.

Absolutely accept that mate. Its a personal, and maybe slightly irrational thing. 'Excitement' is a feeling and probably comes from signing a few players you've never heard of that you can project anything onto. Given they're an unknown quantity there is a sense of limitless potential. Obviously, that is a recipe for disappointment haha, but its part of the joy of being a fan to find a Palhinha, or even our Huijsen or Mitoma etc

Thing is, if Muniz played for someone else and people saw his goal rate and highlights I think he would fit in that category for example. A lot of players who are younger with high ceiling are going to be a bit inconsistent. Mitoma is a great player, and has scored some wonder goals - but he's not doing it match in, match out. Wouldn't surprise me if had he played for us many on here would complain: "inconsistent, never got more than 10 in a season, 28 now - not going to get any better. He's no Mbeumo." etc. So to some extent it's about keeping perspective

In terms of profile it would be great to get someone that top clubs are after that feels like a coup - as with Fofana or someone like that, or Cunha when he joined Wolves. These kind of moves are possible at a premium, that the club seems unwilling to pay.

The Chukwueze move could really be interesting though, serious serious talent there and could be very exciting to watch.

McAtee gets floated around on here, and I like him but he's a really similar profile to ESR and King, so I just don't see it. Elliott would be the one if there was any possibility, but I think it's probably beyond us.

ffc_forever

Quote from: hopper on July 31, 2025, 09:52:13 AMThis is interesting that the Chukwueze move seems to be moving, wonder what it means for Nelson deal.

Can't say I've followed his career closely, but there was one game v Madrid where he absolutely tore them up. Seems like a player with amazing technical ability, but it's about whether that can be harnessed.

If this was an Adama replacement I'd be fairly happy. AFCON is a downer but with Wilson, Sess, Smith Row, King and potentially Nelson who can play there we should be able to manage without him and Iwobi.



If true I don't think it affects the Nelson deal at all.

Nelson is comfortable on either wing and played on the left for us last year and has played on the left 61 times (right 80)in his career.

Chuckwueze is less flexible and stays on the right side but is left footed so could change wings. Has played 235 times on the right wing (left 16).

Tabby

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 10:06:37 AMTabby, aren't ESR and Bassey prime examples of exciting players who showed potential but peated out a bit so we're rekindling as well though? or was that your point?

To quote myself:

ESR and Bassey are decent examples of players that we have signed recently that are a bit more exciting.

They are still young enough that they should be a couple of years off of entering their prime with potential to improve. With a lot of our current targets we are talking about 'what if we can get them back to their form from a couple of years ago' instead of looking at their future. Huijsen, Elanga and Isak are all players that got sold from their clubs for about £15 million at around 20 after not making the cut.


FFC1987

Quote from: Tabby on July 31, 2025, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 10:06:37 AMTabby, aren't ESR and Bassey prime examples of exciting players who showed potential but peated out a bit so we're rekindling as well though? or was that your point?

To quote myself:

ESR and Bassey are decent examples of players that we have signed recently that are a bit more exciting.

They are still young enough that they should be a couple of years off of entering their prime with potential to improve. With a lot of our current targets we are talking about 'what if we can get them back to their form from a couple of years ago' instead of looking at their future. Huijsen, Elanga and Isak are all players that got sold from their clubs for about £15 million at around 20 after not making the cut.

I mean, Nelson is 25, Chukweze is 26, Dewsbury Hall is 26, decent ages, with lots of time to progress to get to prime years. I'd still categorise those names as exciting though. Not to mention people like King coming through looking really exciting. I would like some additions below 25 as well though.

DM

The rumours of a bid for Chukwueze are apparently premature. Fulham are in talks and as I've been told are confident of doing a deal but no offer as yet.

DSTM

hopper

It really is called silly season for good reason 😅

I envy those who are good at keeping out of it and just waiting til deals done are announced.


General

Quote from: DM on July 31, 2025, 11:24:57 AMThe rumours of a bid for Chukwueze are apparently premature. Fulham are in talks and as I've been told are confident of doing a deal but no offer as yet.

DSTM

So sounds more like he's an option we're exploring, which is easier to make happen than let's say one for Sterling, or KDH - perhaps cheaper, and more willing to move to Fulham to get back to the UK/London.. And cheaper in terms of salary expectations.

One to have in the bank as we figure out Sterling, KDH and Nelson deals..

Neutral Zone Ultra

So it sounds like it may be Nelson and Chukwueze in, and Traore out? Or Nelson deal is off, Traore is staying and Chukwueze is coming in?

Drewry66

Quote from: hopper on July 31, 2025, 11:28:23 AMIt really is called silly season for good reason 😅

I envy those who are good at keeping out of it and just waiting til deals done are announced.

I seriously want to just sack off coming on here and X as just like frigging Chinese water torture and a complete waste of time.

Never going to happen however. Like the frigging itch that you know you shouldn't scratch but just can't help it.  ::cry::


ffc_forever

Quote from: DM on July 31, 2025, 11:24:57 AMThe rumours of a bid for Chukwueze are apparently premature. Fulham are in talks and as I've been told are confident of doing a deal but no offer as yet.

DSTM

Any news on outgoings DM? Being linked to a RW in Chuk would suggest Traore will be off based on Wilson's form and starting last two games and with Stirling (LW) & Nelson (L&RW) linked I'd imagine Godo will also get a loan or be sold.

Our wings could be interesting

ffc_forever

Quote from: Count Flapula on July 31, 2025, 09:25:15 AMJust don't see why we need 2 extra wingers really, unless someone is being sold.

We have Wilson, Iwobi, Adama, ESR, Sess, King, Godo (possibly going on loan to a Champ side?) all vying for those spots.

One in to fill the gap left by Nelson? Sure. But a second on top of that is only going to get in the way of playing time for these guys so someone must be off.

You could argue we need a Nelson replacement plus another if Godo goes on loan, but for me it's vital King gets more minutes this season for his development so 2 extra bodies in could block that.

If we do get 2 in then so long as both are a clear improvement on the above then great; or youngsters with a higher potential ceiling. But then sell one - otherwise 2 of a similar level in/none out would be counterproductive/a bit overly congested IMO. 

I don't see King as a winger he's a central player and Smith-Rowe an attacking midfielder that favours the left.

Currently
Iwobi Godo and Sess are our left wingers based on career history positions
Wilson and Traore on the right.

If Traore is off and Godo goes on loan we could end up with Chuk right and Stirling/Nelson left. Or Stirling left and Nelson right

Can't see all 3 happening as we still need money/wages for other positions.