Paper story- Fulham to offer Steve Bruce huge £15m contract

[Berserker]

I think something maybe in the wind regarding managers, no smoke without fire. Not sure Steve Bruce is the answer though. Also why would Sam Alledyce come to Fulham, West Ham are doing well

[Scrumpy]

Please no. The last thing we need is another managerial change. The lack of consistency and constant changing of the guard is largely to blame for us being in the position we are. Just as we look to build for the future this rumour pops up.... PLEASE JUST NO.

Symons doesn't have the ability IMO to take us up. He was brought in to bring stability to the club, which he has. We don't need stability now, we need progress. We aren't progressing under Symons, and we need a big promotion push next season.

Well we are progressing without any new players from the ones the German had. Bar a few loan signings. As for a promotion push. Would we need a few players of quality coming in? Why would Bruce be any better than Symons is? Symons has had to play a certain way because he doesn't think we have good enough players to play any other way. Why would Bruce be able to be any different? We seem to always believe that somehow players not playing or managers not at the club would somehow make things better. When what we need is better players coming into the club. 

:plus one: LH, you've been talking far too much sense recently. Are you ill?

[Barrett487]

I think something maybe in the wind regarding managers, no smoke without fire. Not sure Steve Bruce is the answer though. Also why would Sam Alledyce come to Fulham, West Ham are doing well

Prefer to have Hoddle if there's to be a change, he has more tactical nounce than Kit & Bruce in his little finger.

[Lighthouse]

Please no. The last thing we need is another managerial change. The lack of consistency and constant changing of the guard is largely to blame for us being in the position we are. Just as we look to build for the future this rumour pops up.... PLEASE JUST NO.

Symons doesn't have the ability IMO to take us up. He was brought in to bring stability to the club, which he has. We don't need stability now, we need progress. We aren't progressing under Symons, and we need a big promotion push next season.

Well we are progressing without any new players from the ones the German had. Bar a few loan signings. As for a promotion push. Would we need a few players of quality coming in? Why would Bruce be any better than Symons is? Symons has had to play a certain way because he doesn't think we have good enough players to play any other way. Why would Bruce be able to be any different? We seem to always believe that somehow players not playing or managers not at the club would somehow make things better. When what we need is better players coming into the club. 

:plus one: LH, you've been talking far too much sense recently. Are you ill?

So unfair. Mind you I could have caught a cold of too much positivity. Need to lie down.

[Mokes]

Why would West Ham let Allardyce go. They're having a great season and he is getting the best out of his team. It would seem crazy for them to let him go, or for him to walk so he could come to us...

Screwing Kit for Bruce would be a horrible idea. Big names and big money don't necessarily mean anything. Look at the guy in charge of Brentford. He had even less 'experience' than Kit and is killing it.

Brentford have come on leaps and bounds under Warburton. We haven't under Symons. Bruce has done it twice before remember.

Kit's in his first year with a team of kids. Jim I think mentioned today that with the exception of Kaca and Rodders that everyone on the field was in their first playing season with club.

Just because Bruce has done it before does not mean that he has a magic wand that will guarantee our kids success.  If getting clubs promoted in the past is all that is required we might as well appoint Neil Warnock.. He has like 6 promotions under his belt but I don't see too many crying out for him.

Bruce would just be another desperation signing. He is hardly setting the world alight with his team that he has had 3 years to mould..

What in the world was the point in hiring a first time manager if you're not going to give him any time to give it a proper crack.

Thanks Kit, you given you're heart and soul to the club for a long time now, turned the season around, kept us in top 6 form since you have been here, but the experts on the internet don't like the formation you play so we're going to throw a fortune at some guy who has been given chances by other clubs before you, who never achieved anything at his first 4 clubs and has a worse career win rate than any other Fulham manager since Lawrie Sanchez... You can stay on in the roll we offered Rene when we shafted him for the all conquering Felix if you like..

Screw that. Kit in. 

[fulham traveller]

Whichever we do, our next manager appoitment will be the biggest decision in recent
history, it's make our break

[ChesterTheTabby]

I'd love it if Steve Bruce came to Fulham. Always liked him and rated him as a manager. Would be perfect for us for a promotion push in the coming seasons. Won't happen though. By the way, you are thinking of Sam Allerdyce of West Ham. Please don't call him "Big Sam". I hate that nickname. This post is about the manager of Hull Steve Bruce.

His nickname IS Big Sam and he is mentioned in the paper that is quoted in the post. As for Steve Bruce. He could do no better than our present manager with the players we have. So unless we are actually going to bring in players I really don't the point of yet another managerial change.

I agree. Another managerial change isn't what we need. That said, has Kit really got what it takes to take this club forward? I don't think any of us think so.

Speak for yourself. I am 100% Behind Kit until he either leaves voluntarily or is told that another manager is coming in to replace him. We have to give him more than 3/4 of a season with what he has had to deal with and how far we've come.

[ChesterTheTabby]

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Why would West Ham let Allardyce go. They're having a great season and he is getting the best out of his team. It would seem crazy for them to let him go, or for him to walk so he could come to us...

Screwing Kit for Bruce would be a horrible idea. Big names and big money don't necessarily mean anything. Look at the guy in charge of Brentford. He had even less 'experience' than Kit and is killing it.

Brentford have come on leaps and bounds under Warburton. We haven't under Symons. Bruce has done it twice before remember.

Kit's in his first year with a team of kids. Jim I think mentioned today that with the exception of Kaca and Rodders that everyone on the field was in their first playing season with club.

Just because Bruce has done it before does not mean that he has a magic wand that will guarantee our kids success.  If getting clubs promoted in the past is all that is required we might as well appoint Neil Warnock.. He has like 6 promotions under his belt but I don't see too many crying out for him.

Bruce would just be another desperation signing. He is hardly setting the world alight with his team that he has had 3 years to mould..

What in the world was the point in hiring a first time manager if you're not going to give him any time to give it a proper crack.

Thanks Kit, you given you're heart and soul to the club for a long time now, turned the season around, kept us in top 6 form since you have been here, but the experts on the internet don't like the formation you play so we're going to throw a fortune at some guy who has been given chances by other clubs before you, who never achieved anything at his first 4 clubs and has a worse career win rate than any other Fulham manager since Lawrie Sanchez... You can stay on in the roll we offered Rene when we shafted him for the all conquering Felix if you like..

Screw that. Kit in. 

YES. Bloody Hell yes. Thanks for writing this.

[HatterDon]

I have no problem with Steve Bruce, but he's not coming to Fulham -- at least if the trashy Mirror and the trashier People are reporting it as news. I can see their thinking, though. Bruce has a good track record getting teams promoted to the Prem, and we haven't fired a manager in weeks.

[HatterDon]

so was this thread first or was the other identical one first?

[Scrumpy]

Why would West Ham let Allardyce go. They're having a great season and he is getting the best out of his team. It would seem crazy for them to let him go, or for him to walk so he could come to us...

Screwing Kit for Bruce would be a horrible idea. Big names and big money don't necessarily mean anything. Look at the guy in charge of Brentford. He had even less 'experience' than Kit and is killing it.

Brentford have come on leaps and bounds under Warburton. We haven't under Symons. Bruce has done it twice before remember.

Kit's in his first year with a team of kids. Jim I think mentioned today that with the exception of Kaca and Rodders that everyone on the field was in their first playing season with club.

Just because Bruce has done it before does not mean that he has a magic wand that will guarantee our kids success.  If getting clubs promoted in the past is all that is required we might as well appoint Neil Warnock.. He has like 6 promotions under his belt but I don't see too many crying out for him.

Bruce would just be another desperation signing. He is hardly setting the world alight with his team that he has had 3 years to mould..

What in the world was the point in hiring a first time manager if you're not going to give him any time to give it a proper crack.

Thanks Kit, you given you're heart and soul to the club for a long time now, turned the season around, kept us in top 6 form since you have been here, but the experts on the internet don't like the formation you play so we're going to throw a fortune at some guy who has been given chances by other clubs before you, who never achieved anything at his first 4 clubs and has a worse career win rate than any other Fulham manager since Lawrie Sanchez... You can stay on in the roll we offered Rene when we shafted him for the all conquering Felix if you like..

Screw that. Kit in. 

Blimey Mokes, pour yourself a large G&T! Absolutely spot on. Let's judge Kit in Nov/Dec 2015 and see where we are at that point. I have no idea if he is the Messiah or not, but you can't judge a Manager after 4 months! Also, I remember Steve Bruce playing for Gillingham (yes, I'm that old) and have never forgiven him.

[TrexFFC]

I'm sorry but Kit has had quite a bit of time managing the team now and while it started off nicely his lack of knowledge and experience is really beginning to show.  People on here are shouting from the high heavens for a formation change as well as being proactive instead of reactive.  He's doing the very same things with the team since he took over.  Is he not able to learn on the job? The Fofana loan signing has been terrible and I didn't agree with the decision to leave Chris David out of the starting eighteen either.   If I don't start seeing some improvement towards the close of the season then I'm going to want someone else in.  I want stability but I want to see progression as well.

[RaySmith]

I think something maybe in the wind regarding managers, no smoke without fire. Not sure Steve Bruce is the answer though. Also why would Sam Alledyce come to Fulham, West Ham are doing well

I think you might be right - but I don't see how Bruce is an advancement on Kit, except he is very experienced and has a track record of getting teams promoted.

Big Sam seemed about to get the sack at WH only months ago - now he is more popular with fans due to playing 'better' football, and good results - because he has had the money to get better players in, but a few bad results and they will all be calling for his head again.

I think he might be tempted to come to Fulham, and no one can doubt his success with smaller clubs - but would fans here want him and his style of play?

Depends on how much you think that results matter above anything else - and I think our owner may be of that opinion himself.

[Berserker]

Mind you the rumours say in the summer not now.
I was saying to somebody the other day, sometimes owners don't give managers much money to spend in a tranfer window as they don't trust them to spend it well, eg Kit.

 I don't want Kit to go this season but I can see Khan making a change in the summer if Kit doesn't start winning consistently for the rest of the season.

[The Old Count]

Never mind Bruce or Allardyce. We should sack Kit and get a few of the 'experts' on here to manage the team.

It's clear that they know more about:  tactics, what's happening on the training pitch, the player's mentalities, how and why attempted transfers haven't happened and what the Chairman is communicating to Management than Kit does.

[Baszab]

What rubbish - and how would a £15m pa salary fit in with FPP ?? Or would Bruce turn it around with the existing players ??
Laughable nonsense

I heard were getting in Mourinho, Guardiola on defence and Alf Ramsay as coach - that should please all moaners on here for about three weeks until we fail to win another match

[DevonFFC]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked why I would never  want him

4 years ago, a little bit obsolete don't you agree


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[Jem]

Never mind Bruce or Allardyce. We should sack Kit and get a few of the 'experts' on here to manage the team.

It's clear that they know more about:  tactics, what's happening on the training pitch, the player's mentalities, how and why attempted transfers haven't happened and what the Chairman is communicating to Management than Kit does.

Now, now Old Count, we are not ready for Champions League quite yet!

[MJG]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked why I would never  want him

4 years ago, a little bit obsolete don't you agree


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Not really,  he's now repeating at Hull what he did at Sunderland. Give the man money and actually change a team and it all goes wrong.

[F(f)CUK]

What happened to Khan's assertion that he would always appoint by committee? Why don't we stop wasting our money on managers and start wasting it on developing a team? My view is that we need an experienced CB, a new LB as Staf won't stay, a new CM, a new LW and possibly a new ST with even a chance of an experienced GK.

Kit does not have the players to play much else than the tight diamond formation that he is using as we have no real speedy wingers apart from those who have barely left school.

The fact that we are almost a mid table club now should be regarded as an achievement considering the disaster that was Magath. So I say support Kit and just write off this season.