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Dunk

Started by Tooting legend, August 01, 2015, 07:52:04 PM

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Rudolph

The lad cannot win.  If he didn't play then people would slam Dunk for having a bad attitude and if he plays, then he has no interest in joining Fulham.

rogerpbackinMidEastUS

Quote from: Rudolph on August 02, 2015, 11:36:36 PM
The lad cannot win.  If he didn't play then people would slam Dunk for having a bad attitude and if he plays, then he has no interest in joining Fulham.


"slam Dunk"     nice one
VERY DAFT AND A LOT DAFTER THAN I SEEM, SOMETIMES

HillingdonFFC

Was having a discussion with a Seagulls fan on Twitter. Fulham getting slaughtered for repeatedly going back after Brighton saying not for sale.
I said to him how come the silence from Dunk is deafening, hes a Brighton lad born and bred, if he wanted to stay would he not made some kind of statement?
I reckon its a done deal if Fulham go north of £4 million and his wages are sorted. Someone said on here last week that was holding things up.


sunburywhite

He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
Remember you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
I will be as good as I can be and when I cross the finishing line I will see what it got me

fulhamben

Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

Wimbledon_White

Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Moronic quote of the day. Well Done.


leonffc

Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Not necessarily Kits fault but someone does

Fulham Tup North

Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Moronic quote of the day. Well Done.
....and before his first cup of Tea ;)
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't,....you're right"

alexbishop

Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Moronic quote of the day. Well Done.

Perhaps 'moronic' in its execution but not moronic in principle.

Despite our awful defence last season Kit has been kept on and given the opportunity to have a full pre season with a squad full of 'his' players.

He has had a full pre season to coach his defence, and where there are weaknesses in that defence, to strengthen in the transfer market.

So far we have strengthened at right back and at left back. Early evidence during pre season shows our defence is still disorganised and remains a weakness. Arguably at this stage, this could be due to a lack of quality centre backs. In which case it is paramount we strengthen in that area (which the club appears to be doing without success so far).

If we do strengthen, and despite bringing new centre backs in, our defence is still poor. Then we know the blame lies with our coaching team and a failure in its ability to organise and coach the defence.

If the problems in our defence negatively impact on the team reaching the stated goal of promotion - then yes, Kit will be sacked.

If we do invest in a new defence and we still have problems leaking goals then I imagine the club will move pretty quickly to replace the coaching team so we can still have a chance of reaching play offs.
Fulham Fan Est. 1997

t: @alexmbishop


Wimbledon_White

Quote from: alexbishop on August 03, 2015, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Moronic quote of the day. Well Done.

Perhaps 'moronic' in its execution but not moronic in principle.

Despite our awful defence last season Kit has been kept on and given the opportunity to have a full pre season with a squad full of 'his' players.

He has had a full pre season to coach his defence, and where there are weaknesses in that defence, to strengthen in the transfer market.

So far we have strengthened at right back and at left back. Early evidence during pre season shows our defence is still disorganised and remains a weakness. Arguably at this stage, this could be due to a lack of quality centre backs. In which case it is paramount we strengthen in that area (which the club appears to be doing without success so far).

If we do strengthen, and despite bringing new centre backs in, our defence is still poor. Then we know the blame lies with our coaching team and a failure in its ability to organise and coach the defence.

If the problems in our defence negatively impact on the team reaching the stated goal of promotion - then yes, Kit will be sacked.

If we do invest in a new defence and we still have problems leaking goals then I imagine the club will move pretty quickly to replace the coaching team so we can still have a chance of reaching play offs.

Certainly a more well argued position.

For me, saying "Kit needs sacking if we start the season with a weaker defence than last season" is utterly moronic.

For a start we arguably already have a better defence. Richards, Lonergan and Garbutt are improvements on what we had at the start of last season; please note Grimmer was out on loan in League Two at the start of last season and where Lonergan may not be an upgrade on Bettinelli, though that in itself is debatable, he is certainly an upgrade on Kiraly. 

Secondly, working on the premise that we DO have a worse defence (we don't - see above),  sacking Kit for such a thing would be to totally ignore all the improvements we HAVE made across the midfield.  Pringle, O'Hara and Cairney are all excellent signings.

Thirdly, if we were to sack Kit for such a reason, wouldn't Mike Rigg have to go too? Is that what you want? Given he is directly responsible for player acquisitions, along side Kit, then surely he needs to be fired too?!

Finally, sacking Kit for the simple fact you don't like our starting back four on the first game of the season is utterly ridiculous. Think about how that sounds, think how we would scorn on other clubs for doing such a thing.

So yeah, basically it's nonsense.


fulhamben

Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 03, 2015, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Moronic quote of the day. Well Done.

Perhaps 'moronic' in its execution but not moronic in principle.

Despite our awful defence last season Kit has been kept on and given the opportunity to have a full pre season with a squad full of 'his' players.

He has had a full pre season to coach his defence, and where there are weaknesses in that defence, to strengthen in the transfer market.

So far we have strengthened at right back and at left back. Early evidence during pre season shows our defence is still disorganised and remains a weakness. Arguably at this stage, this could be due to a lack of quality centre backs. In which case it is paramount we strengthen in that area (which the club appears to be doing without success so far).

If we do strengthen, and despite bringing new centre backs in, our defence is still poor. Then we know the blame lies with our coaching team and a failure in its ability to organise and coach the defence.

If the problems in our defence negatively impact on the team reaching the stated goal of promotion - then yes, Kit will be sacked.

If we do invest in a new defence and we still have problems leaking goals then I imagine the club will move pretty quickly to replace the coaching team so we can still have a chance of reaching play offs.

Certainly a more well argued position.

For me, saying "Kit needs sacking if we start the season with a weaker defence than last season" is utterly moronic.

For a start we arguably already have a better defence. Richards, Lonergan and Garbutt are improvements on what we had at the start of last season; please note Grimmer was out on loan in League Two at the start of last season and where Lonergan may not be an upgrade on Bettinelli, though that in itself is debatable, he is certainly an upgrade on Kiraly. 

Secondly, working on the premise that we DO have a worse defence (we don't - see above),  sacking Kit for such a thing would be to totally ignore all the improvements we HAVE made across the midfield.  Pringle, O'Hara and Cairney are all excellent signings.

Thirdly, if we were to sack Kit for such a reason, wouldn't Mike Rigg have to go too? Is that what you want? Given he is directly responsible for player acquisitions, along side Kit, then surely he needs to be fired too?!

Finally, sacking Kit for the simple fact you don't like our starting back four on the first game of the season is utterly ridiculous. Think about how that sounds, think how we would scorn on other clubs for doing such a thing.

So yeah, basically it's nonsense.


so let's get this straight. You think jazz is better than jazz and Garbutt is better than husband? Ok so I'll accept lots on here don't actually see us play, but then with the loss of Turner, you still think we have done well in this windows? Big words or not, you are still full of ( our defence)
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

WONKYTONKY

so let's get this straight. You think jazz is better than jazz and Garbutt is better than husband? Ok so I'll accept lots on here don't actually see us play, but then with the loss of Turner, you still think we have done well in this windows? Big words or not, you are still full of ( our defence)
[/quote]

Hadn't thought about it like that. Actually, our defence as it stands is weaker than with above in the team. I would take Turner over any of our cb's and Husband over Garbutt although I don't think theres going to be much in it. husband is just Championship hardened already. Good point however.


Twig

Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Seriously ridiculous comment.

FulhamStu

Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 03, 2015, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 03, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2015, 08:11:12 AM
He will not join us until after we play Brighton in the second game of the season
If we start the season with a worse defence than last year, then kit needs sacking.

Moronic quote of the day. Well Done.

Perhaps 'moronic' in its execution but not moronic in principle.

Despite our awful defence last season Kit has been kept on and given the opportunity to have a full pre season with a squad full of 'his' players.

He has had a full pre season to coach his defence, and where there are weaknesses in that defence, to strengthen in the transfer market.

So far we have strengthened at right back and at left back. Early evidence during pre season shows our defence is still disorganised and remains a weakness. Arguably at this stage, this could be due to a lack of quality centre backs. In which case it is paramount we strengthen in that area (which the club appears to be doing without success so far).

If we do strengthen, and despite bringing new centre backs in, our defence is still poor. Then we know the blame lies with our coaching team and a failure in its ability to organise and coach the defence.

If the problems in our defence negatively impact on the team reaching the stated goal of promotion - then yes, Kit will be sacked.

If we do invest in a new defence and we still have problems leaking goals then I imagine the club will move pretty quickly to replace the coaching team so we can still have a chance of reaching play offs.

Certainly a more well argued position.

For me, saying "Kit needs sacking if we start the season with a weaker defence than last season" is utterly moronic.

For a start we arguably already have a better defence. Richards, Lonergan and Garbutt are improvements on what we had at the start of last season; please note Grimmer was out on loan in League Two at the start of last season and where Lonergan may not be an upgrade on Bettinelli, though that in itself is debatable, he is certainly an upgrade on Kiraly. 

Secondly, working on the premise that we DO have a worse defence (we don't - see above),  sacking Kit for such a thing would be to totally ignore all the improvements we HAVE made across the midfield.  Pringle, O'Hara and Cairney are all excellent signings.

Thirdly, if we were to sack Kit for such a reason, wouldn't Mike Rigg have to go too? Is that what you want? Given he is directly responsible for player acquisitions, along side Kit, then surely he needs to be fired too?!

Finally, sacking Kit for the simple fact you don't like our starting back four on the first game of the season is utterly ridiculous. Think about how that sounds, think how we would scorn on other clubs for doing such a thing.

So yeah, basically it's nonsense.


so let's get this straight. You think jazz is better than jazz and Garbutt is better than husband? Ok so I'll accept lots on here don't actually see us play, but then with the loss of Turner, you still think we have done well in this windows? Big words or not, you are still full of ( our defence)
How many games did Husband play and Richards was with us for less than half the season.

shnlwswlkr

Take from this what you will, but a friend who's dad used to play for Brighton in the 80s and is still friends with one of the directors have said he (Dunk) asked for a new contract, but the club wouldn't meet his demands, so he should be a Fulham player by the end of the week...
Twitter - @shnlwswlkr


ToodlesMcToot

Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 04, 2015, 03:17:06 PM
Take from this what you will, but a friend who's dad used to play for Brighton in the 80s and is still friends with one of the directors have said he (Dunk) asked for a new contract, but the club wouldn't meet his demands, so he should be a Fulham player by the end of the week...

Don't suppose you have friends whose dads used to play for Palace and Norwich, eh?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

shnlwswlkr

Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 04, 2015, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 04, 2015, 03:17:06 PM
Take from this what you will, but a friend who's dad used to play for Brighton in the 80s and is still friends with one of the directors have said he (Dunk) asked for a new contract, but the club wouldn't meet his demands, so he should be a Fulham player by the end of the week...

Don't suppose you have friends whose dads used to play for Palace and Norwich, eh?

Can't help there mate!
Twitter - @shnlwswlkr

ToodlesMcToot

Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 04, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 04, 2015, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 04, 2015, 03:17:06 PM
Take from this what you will, but a friend who's dad used to play for Brighton in the 80s and is still friends with one of the directors have said he (Dunk) asked for a new contract, but the club wouldn't meet his demands, so he should be a Fulham player by the end of the week...

Don't suppose you have friends whose dads used to play for Palace and Norwich, eh?

Can't help there mate!

Aw shucks!

Still. Hope your mate's father's hearing is good.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude


shnlwswlkr

After our first bid, he supposedly asked for a new contract, but Brighton have a wage cap of £10k so wouldn't meet it.
Twitter - @shnlwswlkr

westcliff white

I heard Dunk was after 20-30k or so a week
Every day is a Fulham day