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Started by blingo, August 07, 2015, 10:05:15 AM

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Nero

Quote from: mikestrand on August 07, 2015, 12:09:29 PM
The ads can be a bit disconcerting if you share a computer with you're wife, as it doesn't take the brain of Britain to know what each of you have been googling.
I think there is a way of turning this feature off in google settings.


yes you can use your " in private" browsing, another great invention by man to look at porn like the smart phone

jarv

Blingo, sorry to see you go (if you do go). I rarely post because, living abroad, Fulham no longer on tv here, I do not see games so have no comments on the team or players. I get my Fulham news here. I check in almost every day, read a few and find that nobody posting offends me. Cookies? They are everywhere, every site you go to.
Personally, I would be lost without FoF. Mostly for Peabody's jokes. How can you pass them up.?

fulhams_finest

#22
maybe check what the cookies are for:
one contains a session ID so when you click on my profile or post -> they know its from you

the other cookie seems to be a cookie related to tapatalk and popup appears if your on mobile


neither of these cookies to me are stealing your information or breaching your privacy merely used to keep the site operational and to provide authentication


Logicalman

OK, so cookies are used for various tasks in the browsing world, security, history to name just two.

If you turn cookies off you might find some content on some sites either doesn't load correctly, or at all, and that is your choice.
Sites like FoF rely on certain sponsorships, and these often come in the form of advertising. The fact you personally might not have clicked on even just one of those ads doesn't matter as much as the agency having the opportunity to display their adverts.

Simply put, if you want private browsing, each browser has that setting, in addition, if using Chrome, you can use the incognito pages to browse (somewhat) privately, but please don't be fooled that there is anything really 'private' about browsing on the internet, it's like walking down a street in London expecting no CCTV cameras to see you at all, doesn't happen.  :58:

If you REALLY want to be paranoid about your browsing privacy, go for something like Tor, be aware that is something a little under the radar, and like most things of that nature, nefarious characters hang out there offering bitcoins and the like, and there be dragons.  :033:


Blingo, if you really don't like this forum, then with respect mate, just leave. You make some great posts mate, but sometimes it's better to part company on good terms. Nobody needs to announce they are leaving, and given the reaction on this thread, perhaps it's better they don't.  :dead horse:
Logical is just in the name - don't expect it has anything to do with my thought process, because I AM the man who sold the world.

PeterFFC

Might as well give up internet if you're actually bothered by cookies.
Plus there's no need to criticise people who monitor a well run site, for the befefit of people like you, without taking any form of pay. If you want to understand cookies you could easily just google it unless you stopped using them because you're concerned about them spying on you.
The frequent leaving, taking about yourself in 3rd person half the time and this thread does seem very attention seeking.

Nero

Its the Americans spying on you don't you remember the Cookie Monster, eat Rich Tea it confuses them


Slaphead in Qatar

its important to have rules and regulations and controls on posting.  not trying to schmooze up to the mods here. its just that i go on other discussion forums which don't have such tight controls, and the amount of racism, sexisim, islamophobia, anti semitism etc etc on those sites is disgusting - i am talking about well known sites such as sky news, yahoo etc.

Slaphead in Qatar

by the way - hope blingo doesn't go. i have had arguments with him, but i i like his posts most of the time. he's one of the ex pat club.

Fernhurst

 
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 07, 2015, 05:34:01 PM
by the way - hope blingo doesn't go. i have had arguments with him, but i i like his posts most of the time. he's one of the ex pat club.


:plus one:  :plus one:


The atmosphere's fresh and the debate lively.


Holders

"Cookies" are the way that if you load up FoF the site recognises your user name and password. If you didn't have them you'd have to log in each time you visit which would be a right PITA. You'll notice this if you clear your computer of rubbish then try to visit FF. You have to log in first time, thereafter that you don't - it's the "cookie" doing its job.

As for getting adverts on here (if others do) - I don't , for which I'm grateful but don't know what I did to achieve that.

I've never chatted with Blingo on here but I, for one, recognise him as an original and hope that he'll choose to stay or return at a later date.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

YankeeJim

There is good reason to be paranoid. Last August at the meet up in Florida, I clearly saw Logicalman with a FOF tee shirt, a camera and a note book following each FOF member. I suspect it was under direct orders of Admin and designed much like the NSA does it. I don't really mind but when I saw Tony peeking under the shower curtain at me, I decided to draw the line. What I do want to know is, where you got that photo of me in my anti-FOF hat?  :028:
Its not that I could and others couldn't.
Its that I did and others didn't.

fulhamben

#31
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 07, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2015, 10:48:50 AM
isn't the cookies thing all to do with the advertisements that get shown to you on the page, so they get tailored to your individual like.  

Done me a big favour the other evening. I had been previously looking at holidays on First Choice, nothing sprang to mind, but then a deal popped up on here and I booked. Hardly controlling, I'd say it's more about tailored advertising, and they just use your cookies.  
not so good for me. Had a quick check through my ps4 the other day and my TV was advertising dwarf porn whilst the mother in law was in the room. It's the little things I suppose
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.


Forever Fulham

Internet content, as a whole, is largely funded by advertising.  Embedded ads.  Pop up ads.  As I understand it, this online forum is partially subsidized by the annoying ads that pop up while we're reading posts.  We suffer through the ads because it makes the forum affordable/available.  For me, that's an easy choice.  As to privacy concerns, this forum is an odd venue to get upset over.  Every time you go online, advertisers' media contractors are trying their best to compile a socio-economic demographic profile of you based on your viewing habits, where you visit, what you surf.   This forum is but a drop in an ocean of data collection going on all of the time, every time you go online.  An odd venue to throw a fit over.  Hardware companies want to know who is going online looking for replacement door locks, ladders, paint, so they can target you in the future with online or snail mail advertisements.  I'm not sure what the privacy laws are in the U.K., but in the U.S. the advertisers can send unsolicited outbound commercial email messages to residential consumers until they 'opt-out' by providing notice to the sender that they want to be put on the merchant's Do Not Email list.  Reasonable people have made strong arguments in the past that we shouldn't be tracked when we go online, that  our surfing should be private, and our visits not compiled into a profile.  There's an old adage in Advertising.  A famous saying by an executive director of media buying for  a large ad agency to explain the ambivalence towards mass media  ad buys:  "I know half of my (media budget) money is wasted; problem is, I don't know which half." 

The Holy Grail in Media Buying has always been to build a better mousetrap, to build a more efficient system for ad media buying.  The tracking of surfing histories of online consumers provides that better mousetrap.  Now, advertisers, using fancy software and predictive technology can create an eerily accurate snapshot of consumers who go online.  Want to effectively reach those consumers in the market for replacement door lock?  The tracking technology does that.  In the U.S. most privacy policies of corporations promise that they are not collecting personally sensitive information.  Rather, they "aggregate" such data, so that when the data is sold to advertisers, that most personal information about yourself is withheld.  Rather, the hardware store chain's ad agency is buying a list of a number of email addresses that will be 'blasted' with the desired commercial message.  The ad agency won't be given the individual email addresses.  Rather, the contractor will provide the agency with a guarantee of a certain number of culled email addresses within a certain geography.  The ad buy is placed.  The targets reached.   And that's advertising in the new century for you--the little engine that drives the economy.  What is Google but a giant advertising machine.  What is Yahoo?  Same thing. 

I hate getting bombarded with junk mail, whether in my mail box or my inbox.  So everytime I end my online session, I delete my History, my Cookies, my Temporary Internet File, etc.   Every country has a number of great software products that you can get free to do that.  In the States, I use Vipre.   And every now and then I'll run antimalwarebytes software program to make sure malware hasn't snuck into my system.

Holders

Well, I don't get ads at all on here. If I knew the secret I'd share it.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

Logicalman

Forever Fulham, great post there sir, spot on.

Don't forget also the stores which offer to email you your receipt, yep, that's a pos as well for email addresses.

I have to admit, I get spammed a lot, but having a good email filter set up with your AV suite proves worthwhile. For those that want to stop it, just pay 60 bucks over 2 years for up to 3 computers and you too can reduce those pesky emails.
Logical is just in the name - don't expect it has anything to do with my thought process, because I AM the man who sold the world.


Forever Fulham

I was briefly an ad media buyer in a past life.  But that was before the advent of the  Internet.  Later I provided legal counsel and support to a huge company's direct marketing efforts and oversaw my company's reaction to and implementation of CAN-SPAM, Do Not Call, the rules on unsolicited commercial Faxing, and even the U.S. Postal Regs.    Plus my company's privacy policy.   The world sure has changed in the last 12 years.   I'm a big admirer of how the mods run this board and set up and maintain this online forum.  You get a big 'well done' from me.  Blingo, come back to us.  As I type this, I'm staring at a Sports Authority ad on the screen, featuring Under Armour athletic apparel.  And the instructions to "Hover to Expand".  There's a photo of an NFL football running back in the banner ad as well.  Eddie Lacy of the Green Bay Packers.   That ad is clearly tailored for an American FOF member.  These bastards are clever.  They may not know much about me, but they know I'm in the U.S., about 4 miles from the nearest Sports Authority department store.   I once had a long talk with a media research specialist at a major ad agency.  He said all of us -- in whatever Western country -- can be categorized into one of about 40 discrete labels of consumers.  By education.  By income.  Age.  Sex.  Marital status.  Savings.  Debt.  Political leanings.  Religious beliefs (or not).  And so on.  And they develop a more nuanced 'snapshot' of us by what we do while we're awake that they can track.  Like online surfing habits.  It's scary stuff, how they know whether their targeted ads will or won't be effective based on who and what we are, what our interests appear to be.  I long for a privacy that has long left the building.  I don't understand why anyone would create a detailed Facebook page about themselves, telling the whole world all about themselves.  Why?  There are software programs which 'scrape' Facebook pages and then use that information to bombard you with ads and junk and fraud.   We don't have to open our front doors to let people into our homes.  We are doing it with social media and careless surfing habits.

Barrett487


Barrett487

Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 07, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2015, 10:48:50 AM
isn't the cookies thing all to do with the advertisements that get shown to you on the page, so they get tailored to your individual like.  

Done me a big favour the other evening. I had been previously looking at holidays on First Choice, nothing sprang to mind, but then a deal popped up on here and I booked. Hardly controlling, I'd say it's more about tailored advertising, and they just use your cookies.  
not so good for me. Had a quick check through my ps4 the other day and my TV was advertising dwarf porn whilst the mother in law was in the room. It's the little things I suppose

:drums:


AlbanianWhite

Quote from: Forever Fulham on August 07, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
Internet content, as a whole, is largely funded by advertising.  Embedded ads.  Pop up ads.  As I understand it, this online forum is partially subsidized by the annoying ads that pop up while we're reading posts.  We suffer through the ads because it makes the forum affordable/available.  For me, that's an easy choice.  As to privacy concerns, this forum is an odd venue to get upset over.  Every time you go online, advertisers' media contractors are trying their best to compile a socio-economic demographic profile of you based on your viewing habits, where you visit, what you surf.   This forum is but a drop in an ocean of data collection going on all of the time, every time you go online.  An odd venue to throw a fit over.  Hardware companies want to know who is going online looking for replacement door locks, ladders, paint, so they can target you in the future with online or snail mail advertisements.  I'm not sure what the privacy laws are in the U.K., but in the U.S. the advertisers can send unsolicited outbound commercial email messages to residential consumers until they 'opt-out' by providing notice to the sender that they want to be put on the merchant's Do Not Email list.  Reasonable people have made strong arguments in the past that we shouldn't be tracked when we go online, that  our surfing should be private, and our visits not compiled into a profile.  There's an old adage in Advertising.  A famous saying by an executive director of media buying for  a large ad agency to explain the ambivalence towards mass media  ad buys:  "I know half of my (media budget) money is wasted; problem is, I don't know which half." 

The Holy Grail in Media Buying has always been to build a better mousetrap, to build a more efficient system for ad media buying.  The tracking of surfing histories of online consumers provides that better mousetrap.  Now, advertisers, using fancy software and predictive technology can create an eerily accurate snapshot of consumers who go online.  Want to effectively reach those consumers in the market for replacement door lock?  The tracking technology does that.  In the U.S. most privacy policies of corporations promise that they are not collecting personally sensitive information.  Rather, they "aggregate" such data, so that when the data is sold to advertisers, that most personal information about yourself is withheld.  Rather, the hardware store chain's ad agency is buying a list of a number of email addresses that will be 'blasted' with the desired commercial message.  The ad agency won't be given the individual email addresses.  Rather, the contractor will provide the agency with a guarantee of a certain number of culled email addresses within a certain geography.  The ad buy is placed.  The targets reached.   And that's advertising in the new century for you--the little engine that drives the economy.  What is Google but a giant advertising machine.  What is Yahoo?  Same thing. 

I hate getting bombarded with junk mail, whether in my mail box or my inbox.  So everytime I end my online session, I delete my History, my Cookies, my Temporary Internet File, etc.   Every country has a number of great software products that you can get free to do that.  In the States, I use Vipre.   And every now and then I'll run antimalwarebytes software program to make sure malware hasn't snuck into my system.

Phuck me!! Get a life man...
An Albanian is for life, not just for Christmas!

Forever Fulham

AlbanianW: If you aren't concerned about maintaining some semblance of privacy when going onto the Internet, or as the continental Europeans call it, "The right to be forgotten," then you need to rethink your priorities.  Frankly, I don't know how Londoners stand the overwhelming video recording that goes on in that city.  Zero privacy.