So how did Cyriac do

[fulhamben]

Did he do enough to start the next game

[Mince n Tatties]

Don't really think so,Slavs will start with Martin again I'm sure.
As I've said on another post he will want to put it over Forest,back him to score.

[fulhamben]

Don't really think so,Slavs will start with Martin again I'm sure.
As I've said on another post he will want to put it over Forest,back him to score.

and that's the problem with him. He should want to put it over every team, not just the ones that suit derby

[Mince n Tatties]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

[@jolslover]

http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=58114.0

[Nero]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

He might have sent him packing or to the reserves if we had got more than 1 forward in

[davew]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

Not sure I agree with the last part of the comment Mince, Slava is not saving face if Martin continues not to show much/any commitment, he is being left with egg on it! Not really interested in how CM performed vs Hull and Barnsley though it was very nice of him to show a bit of desire, doesn't compensate for the number of games that he hasn't performed and now left us likely/certain to miss the play offs!

[NJFulham]

I think Cyriac plays vs. teams who park buses. Martin vs. everyone else.

[Bassey the warrior]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

Slav would've been a fool to send back Martin if he couldn't get a suitable replacement. He's doing a great job given he's been let down in the transfer market.

[Mince n Tatties]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

Slav would've been a fool to send back Martin if he couldn't get a suitable replacement. He's doing a great job given he's been let down in the transfer market.

He went on strike before the window opened..Slavs could have gone to the board and said this fecker is going back to Derby,now back me In the window and give me the money to buy Rhodes or whoever.
He chose to keep Martin,he told the whole country about it in the press.
Bet he regrets it now.
Yes he doing a great job,I'm not saying he isn't.

[Mince n Tatties]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

Slav would've been a fool to send back Martin if he couldn't get a suitable replacement. He's doing a great job given he's been let down in the transfer market.

He went on strike before the window opened..Slavs could have gone to the board and said this fecker is going back to Derby,now back me In the window and give me the money to buy Rhodes or whoever.
He chose to keep Martin,he told the whole country about it in the press.
Bet he regrets it now.
Yes he doing a great job,I'm not saying he isn't.

but the board demonstrated that they aren't capable of buying a striker. It's not as if they didn't try because we had Martin. They tried (Elrich) and failed. So there's no logical reason to believe we'd have got Rhodes or anyone else if Martin had gone back .

Of course there is no guarantee that we would have got who we would have gone for,but if he had sent Martin back he would have at least put the pressure on the board to go get someone with the whole window to do it,not that last day debacle with Enrich.

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

Slav would've been a fool to send back Martin if he couldn't get a suitable replacement. He's doing a great job given he's been let down in the transfer market.

He went on strike before the window opened..Slavs could have gone to the board and said this fecker is going back to Derby,now back me In the window and give me the money to buy Rhodes or whoever.
He chose to keep Martin,he told the whole country about it in the press.
Bet he regrets it now.
Yes he doing a great job,I'm not saying he isn't.

I am not sure that we could or should have sent Martin back.

Whether we could would depend on the contract. We were intending to buy him permanently and it was a year long long so I doubt that there would be a clause to send back early and even more so we would not have got any money back and almost certainly would have had to pay Martin's wages for the season.

To whether we should have sent him back early I think the answer should be "No", not because he would be any use but because he and Derby wanted him back and they are our rivals.

That should be qualified by saying that we should have bought two more strikers.

[HectorWeso]

Like I've said before the manager is to blame for the situation.
The day Martin refused to play at Brighton he should have been sent back,then we would have had whole window to get someone.
Got a feeling Slava is ruing not doing it,so to save face he has to pick him.

Slav would've been a fool to send back Martin if he couldn't get a suitable replacement. He's doing a great job given he's been let down in the transfer market.

He went on strike before the window opened..Slavs could have gone to the board and said this fecker is going back to Derby,now back me In the window and give me the money to buy Rhodes or whoever.
He chose to keep Martin,he told the whole country about it in the press.
Bet he regrets it now.
Yes he doing a great job,I'm not saying he isn't.

I am not sure that we could or should have sent Martin back.

Whether we could would depend on the contract. We were intending to buy him permanently and it was a year long long so I doubt that there would be a clause to send back early.

To whether we should have sent him back early I think the answer should be "No", not because he would be any use but because he and Derby wanted him back and they are our rivals.

That should be qualified by saying that we should have bought two more strikers.

Exactly. Saying it's the managers fault not to send back our only half decent striking option is actually fully retarded.

[horse1031]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

[fulhamben]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

Slav was wrong and hauled him off. Does he risk the same mistake or finally give someone else a chance

[MJG]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

Slav was wrong and hauled him off. Does he risk the same mistake or finally give someone else a chance

Its one game, was he wrong with McDonald and Aluko starting? Whatever fans thoughts on Martin its not always a mistake by a manager when a player has a poor game after starting with him.

[fulhamben]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

Slav was wrong and hauled him off. Does he risk the same mistake or finally give someone else a chance

Its one game, was he wrong with McDonald and Aluko starting? Whatever fans thoughts on Martin its not always a mistake by a manager when a player has a poor game after starting with him.

it is when it's a few games in a row.

[MJG]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

Slav was wrong and hauled him off. Does he risk the same mistake or finally give someone else a chance

Its one game, was he wrong with McDonald and Aluko starting? Whatever fans thoughts on Martin its not always a mistake by a manager when a player has a poor game after starting with him.

it is when it's a few games in a row.

Against Hull and Burton was fine and then Birmingham they were all crap.
personally as i have said i would prefer he was at home kicking a ball against a wall for the rest of the season But SJ is picking him and I'm trying to be objective when talking about him.

[fulhamben]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

Slav was wrong and hauled him off. Does he risk the same mistake or finally give someone else a chance

Its one game, was he wrong with McDonald and Aluko starting? Whatever fans thoughts on Martin its not always a mistake by a manager when a player has a poor game after starting with him.

it is when it's a few games in a row.

Against Hull and Burton was fine and then Birmingham they were all crap.
personally as i have said i would prefer he was at home kicking a ball against a wall for the rest of the season But SJ is picking him and I'm trying to be objective when talking about him.

I make it 6 league games ago, against barnsley that he last had a good game. Form alone suggestes he needs dropping

[MJG]

Knowing our board we could have sent Martin back to Derby and only gotten Cyriac on the final day.

The question is are we better with or without Martin.  Slav thought we were better with him.

Slav was wrong and hauled him off. Does he risk the same mistake or finally give someone else a chance

Its one game, was he wrong with McDonald and Aluko starting? Whatever fans thoughts on Martin its not always a mistake by a manager when a player has a poor game after starting with him.

it is when it's a few games in a row.

Against Hull and Burton was fine and then Birmingham they were all crap.
personally as i have said i would prefer he was at home kicking a ball against a wall for the rest of the season But SJ is picking him and I'm trying to be objective when talking about him.

I make it 6 league games ago, against barnsley that he last had a good game. Form alone suggestes he needs dropping

Well I disagree, thought At Burton he did well in a difficult game.