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Summer Transfer Gossip.

Started by Mince n Tatties, April 28, 2019, 08:26:09 AM

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Mince n Tatties

Had to laugh, just read on net"Fulham fans getting restless with all the rumours implying players going out and none coming in"
Is there a Mole in FoF giving away our gossip to others.😯

Facts Not Fiction

Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.

DevonFFC

Aston Villa expect to complete a £12m deal for Brentford's England under-21 star Ezri Konsa today.

Brentford brought in some Danish midfielder from Celta Vigo yesterday


Nero

Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll

Started by his agent no doubt

on a pay pler play deal wouldnt be bad, final 25 mins 1-0 down Mitro and Carroll up front

FFC1987

Quote from: Nero on July 11, 2019, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: KJS on July 11, 2019, 06:38:25 AM
Quote from: St Eve on July 11, 2019, 02:49:01 AM
Rumors that we are closing in on Andy Carroll

Started by his agent no doubt

on a pay pler play deal wouldnt be bad, final 25 mins 1-0 down Mitro and Carroll up front

I think he'll end up at Newcastle. They will see him as a cheap replacement for Rondon who seemingly won't go back without Rafa there unless I'm mistaken.

Skatzoffc

#1005
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!
Siblings, let us not be down on it.
One total catastrophe like this...is just the beginning !


Maidstone Lee

Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif
Stand up if you still believe!
@LeeWarner19

junior white

Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif
Whie I don't disagree that we need defensive reinforcements, it always makes me smile when we use the to say we need this that or the other, but then mock them when players are signed based on stats.

Stats are ok used for what they are, they do not give the whole picture as there are a lot of things to take into account.

But as I Say a CB at least is required in my opinion

Facts Not Fiction

Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif

We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.


Chutney

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif

We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.

Even at 34 David Nugent will dominate our current defence. If the likes of MLM, Bryan and Christie weren't up for the fight in the prem what makes you think they'll be more up for it this year?

If we don't improve our defence we need KMac to be an absolute shield infront of them.
C O Y W

Skatzoffc


It was against the like of Nugent that we conceded more than any of the top 6 teams.

It is an issue if we are going for promotion.
As we will be repeating the same mistakes as last season.

Hence the point of my original post.

Siblings, let us not be down on it.
One total catastrophe like this...is just the beginning !

DevonFFC

Are we hoping we just outscore our opponents ?


Chutney

We lost to Oldham last year because our defence couldn't handle the likes of Sam Surridge. Yet people think all of a sudden they can handle themselves....

Our first pre-season friendly this year - 3-1 loss to Cambridge. We played a fairly strong team. Our defence is appalling.
C O Y W

Bassey the warrior

Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.

Chutney

Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on July 11, 2019, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


I think MLM will do fine in the Championship, his main errors are being sloppy in possession and in the Championship teams don't press as much as the EPL, so shouldn't be as bad. He is aggressive and will be up for the fight. I'd like to see how Mawson does in pre-season because he's supposed to be good in the air. Odoi and Ream not quite so reliable in the air, Odoi can actually jump quite high but he has an annoying habit of inexplicably ducking under a cross for some reason.

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.
C O Y W


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on July 11, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 11, 2019, 08:39:52 AM
The problem is we don't keep clean sheets.
We are hopeless at the back imo.
We concede first in most games, usually from the very first opposition corner.
This has been the same for FOUR seasons.

We need a class RCB and a new RB. Then we can concentrate on attack as midfield is fine.

History repeating itself again and again and again.
No wonder all our kids think we are a joke club and are leaving us.

Get it sorted.
COYW!


Well, that fact is completely made up, but ok.


Opposition scored against us first in 66% of games.
Only topped by Huddersfield at 74%

From Soccerstats.com

We have needed a CB for four seasons.
We got Mawson late in the window last season and he was unfit for most of it.
MLM makes 1-2 catastrophic errors in each game. Not all result in a goal, but against decent opposition generally do.
We can't defend corners or free kicks.
Half the time with give the ball away when it's our throw in.

We conceded more goals than any other top 6 team in our promotion year.
We got promoted to EPL purely on the fact we scored more than we conceded.

That's not what we need if we are to gain promotion and stay up.

COYW!


Yet some people believe our current defence will be enough to see us through  064.gif 064.gif

We're facing the likes of David Nugent now, not Aguero. The defence is not an issue at this level. Especially with Stuart Gray coaching them.

The defence is a massive issue, it is Fulhams achilles heal. Lacks height and physicality, no leaders to marshal and a Fabri plays in goal, a dodger keeper. The defence is poor at set pieces and crosses, because we have no real height. Plus we have a habit of playing round pegs in square holes. It's not the managers fault, it is the recruitment who bring in the wrong players because they cannot get the right players, due to the incompetence of the bogus d of f. 
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Sting of the North

Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.

Do you actually think that is how you evaluate a player? Or that the loss to Oldham defines all players that participated in that game?

Chutney

Quote from: Sting of the North on July 11, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 12:39:58 PM

We just lost 3-1 to League 2 Cambridge UTD, MLM was at fault for two of their goals yet you think he'll be fine in the championship..... I'll have whatever your're drinking.

Do you actually think that is how you evaluate a player? Or that the loss to Oldham defines all players that participated in that game?


Does an entire season of terrible performances not either?
C O Y W


Two Ton Ted

Unless we have a keeper who can catch a ball in the six yard box and a pair of centre halves who can head a ball away then we will not be bothering the promotion places, and to be honest I not sure we have either.

I'm not entirely sure our current keepers or centre halves fit that criteria.
Never ever bloody anything ever.

Sting of the North

Quote from: Chutney on July 11, 2019, 01:22:29 PM

Does an entire season of terrible performances not either?

I have not witnessed an entire season of terrible performances from MLM (even though that is of course somewhat subjective). You also didn't answer my question. In any case, my point was that there could maybe be a bit of a more reasonable discussion if the hyperbole and exaggerations could be kept down a bit. You are free to disagree on that as well of course.