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Genoa in for Mitrovic?
« on: November 12, 2019, 06:46:38 PM »
Fulham star a January ‘suggestion’ for Serie A side – Would cost a fee ‘almost equal to his age’

By Tom Coast -  12th November 2019

Aleksandar Mitrovic really likes the Championship, especially with Fulham, as the Serbian striker has played 33 games in England’s second division with the Craven Cottage side, and has scored 24 goals.


 
He did well in the Premier League too, but never quite reached the same heights, finding the back of the net 11 times in 37 appearances last season.

Still, this goalscoring record has caught the eye of a number of teams over time, with the latest being Genoa in Italy, according to PrimoCanale.

The club are looking for some attacking reinforcement in January, and it’s stated the Fulham man is a ‘suggestion’ for the Serie A side, alongside the likes of Anostosis Donis (currently at Reims on loan from Stuttgart) and free agent Hatem Ben Arfa.

As for what he would cost, PrimoCanale explain he would set back Genoa a fee ‘almost equal to his age’, so since he’s 25, we’re guessing they mean €25m and not €25.

That’s a considerable amount for the Italians, but it would be interesting to see what Fulham would do if presented with that choice.

After all, they spent £22.5m on him in the first place, and this would be a great opportunity to get their money back if they are in a position of need.

Over to you, Genoa.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-star-january-suggestion-serie-side-cost-fee-almost-equal-age/

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Re: Genoa in for Mitrovic?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 07:08:44 PM »
€25 million  :005: no chance
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 07:21:18 PM »
I don't think double that really scratches the surface.

11 goals in any PL team is a good return, let alone one with European castaways thrown together with silly money.

Dare I say he could fetch closer to 100m vs. 25m?


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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 09:49:05 PM »
Agree with posts above, I suspect we turned down double that from China less than a year ago so really they need to treble it to get Tony's attention

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2019, 10:16:12 PM »
The way Mitro is playing has to develop rumours but I wold have thought the media rumour specialists could have come up with something better than this.
I would have expected a full sports page spread suggesting a top ten Premiership club and a figure of £50m as starters,

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2019, 10:31:22 PM »
No chance, we are not in a position of need. So basically unless the offer is in excess of £50 mill the answer is no. Lets not forget we would need to replace him and who is there. So on second thoughts the answer is no irrespective of how much they offer.


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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2019, 11:32:42 PM »
Yes but with our geniuses they will probably let him go for 10 million

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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2019, 06:20:52 AM »
No chance, we are not in a position of need. So basically unless the offer is in excess of £50 mill the answer is no. Lets not forget we would need to replace him and who is there. So on second thoughts the answer is no irrespective of how much they offer.

We aren’t in dier financial need is true in the extremely short-term that is this season only and only if we don’t need more than one player plus Hector in the window,

Even this season, if we need to add a high quality goalkeeper and right back in the winter transfer window, then we have financial problems raising that kind of money within FFP.

Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

And lastly from May 2021, we will be in dier dier dier financial position (in terms of being able to financial support a squad likely to get promoted) unless we make some big sales that boasts our income, because we have no parchuate payments and the Khans cannot invest more than £250,000 per week.
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Re: Genoa in for Mitrovic?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2019, 08:06:56 AM »
No way would we sell him circa for what we paid given the length of contract. We 'may' have to sell to re-build due to FFP if we fail to go up, but that's likely to be at a fee north of £40m - no chance this story anything but lazy speculation.


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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2019, 08:10:32 AM »
No chance, we are not in a position of need. So basically unless the offer is in excess of £50 mill the answer is no. Lets not forget we would need to replace him and who is there. So on second thoughts the answer is no irrespective of how much they offer.

We aren’t in dier financial need is true in the extremely short-term that is this season only and only if we don’t need more than one player plus Hector in the window,

Even this season, if we need to add a high quality goalkeeper and right back in the winter transfer window, then we have financial problems raising that kind of money within FFP.

Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

And lastly from May 2021, we will be in dier dier dier financial position (in terms of being able to financial support a squad likely to get promoted) unless we make some big sales that boasts our income, because we have no parchuate payments and the Khans cannot invest more than £250,000 per week.

Sure. But it is very unlikely that Mitro's value would decrease in the short or medium term given the length of his contract. As such, we would not need or want to sell him in January since this is reasonably our best chance of promotion. There is not a right back or goalkeeper that you could persuade to come to the Championship that would offset the negative impact of losing Mitro. As such, the money would have to be absolutely over the top stupid for FFC to even remotely consider selling him.

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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2019, 08:12:12 AM »
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2019, 08:14:47 AM »
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.


Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.


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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 10:42:03 AM »
I'm not worried at all, why would he go there? They're not a big club. If he leaves it will be for a top 7 Premier League side. I would hope to get at least £40 million for him given his age and performances.

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Re: Genoa in for Mitrovic?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2019, 08:54:05 AM »
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.

Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.

You are both correct, we really need Anguissa to keep playing at his current level, because a big sale price for Anguissa and decent sales Fabri/Seri would put us in a financial position to keep this squad with reinforcements for one more season.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2019, 09:08:36 AM »
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.

Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.

You are both correct, we really need Anguissa to keep playing at his current level, because a big sale price for Anguissa and decent sales Fabri/Seri would put us in a financial position to keep this squad with reinforcements for one more season.

Just to reiterate, I'm not saying that means we'll be able to keep the squad together. To keep Reed, Reid, Arter, Knockaert and Cavaleiro will probably cost £60m or require their respective clubs to agree to rollover their loans, plus, whilst I can't see Mitro leaving this January, I can see his and other heads (Cairney, Mawson and Bryan) being turned by PL clubs in the summer.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM »
Next Season, if we sell Anguiisa and Seri for a low price, then we sustain a massive loss that means we need to cut wages and in dier financial need.

Don't necessarily disagree with the general thrust of your post but the book value of these two at the end of this season will be what, perbsps £10m and £15m? That's also assuming MLM will have a book value of £2-3m. I don't see us selling them at a "massive loss" against those figures. We may even make a "massive profit" on Anguissa.

Agree - Seri is still rated in France and can see us at least recouping £10m - Anguissa is young & doing well so we should get our money back there.

You are both correct, we really need Anguissa to keep playing at his current level, because a big sale price for Anguissa and decent sales Fabri/Seri would put us in a financial position to keep this squad with reinforcements for one more season.

Just to reiterate, I'm not saying that means we'll be able to keep the squad together. To keep Reed, Reid, Arter, Knockaert and Cavaleiro will probably cost £60m or require their respective clubs to agree to rollover their loans, plus, whilst I can't see Mitro leaving this January, I can see his and other heads (Cairney, Mawson and Bryan) being turned by PL clubs in the summer.
  Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure,  Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2019, 10:00:46 AM »
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure,  Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.

I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.   

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2019, 10:27:28 AM »
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure,  Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.

I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.   

My initial reaction to Mawson’s performance against Hull was he played poorly, but the more i watch those three goals the more other players i hold responsible (particularly Ream and Reed). The thing about Mawson is he still to be providing some kind of defence, where as other players seem to covering  space that is not attacked and not likely to be attacked.

The DOFs at other clubs would pay more for Mawson than any other defender in the championship, that’s cause they know a defender that can defend and pass the ball is very valuable.

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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2019, 10:50:37 AM »
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure,  Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.

I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.   

I think suggesting Mawson could be as good as Maguire is a bit of a stretch......

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2019, 11:58:02 AM »
Cearney I think is good enough to interest PL clubs, Bryan - less sure,  Mawson? I think not, unless we start seeing the form we heard about at Swansea. Defending as he did against Hull will be enough for any half-decent club to think twice, PL or Championship.

I knew this sort of comment would follow from someone. Personally I think there's a good chance of one of the shrewder clubs looking at Mawson's pre-FFC performances, relative youth (he's probably still 3-4 years off peaking) and raw attributes, and realising that with decent coaching in a decent team, he could easily be as good as Harry Maguire. I know there are plenty of clubs that just throw money at the latest form player but some are more discerning and intelligent. As noted by another poster on another thread, in recent years, defenders' performances in a Fulham shirt have borne no correlation with their ability.   

I think suggesting Mawson could be as good as Maguire is a bit of a stretch......

Well I must admit that statement is 50% based on Mawson being decent and 50% based on Maguire being IMO overrated
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