The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

[Deeping_white]

Flamengo confirmed he tested positive for Covid yesterday. Assume it will delay the transfer by a week or so but as we weren't banking on him being a starter it's not the end of the world. As Brazilian leagues are mid season he won't have any fitness issues so once out of isolation he can hit the ground running.

Yep, Vene Casagrande confirms the deal is already done so will delay the announcement

The deal is never done until the medical is completed,  and at the moment the medical isn't completed.

The medical was in two parts, one part being done in Brazil and the final part is being done in the UK which they can do after he's finished isolating

[Deeping_white]

#Fulham 'to complete #Grimes deal next week' https://t.co/n0mv5s27c8 #ffc #coyw #swans pic.twitter.com/1LSXff8Cw3

— HammyEnd.com (@HammyEnd) July 31, 2021

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[Riversider]

Flamengo have tonight moved the goalposts over Muniz , they now want Fulham to pay more for a lesser share, 75% instead of 80%
If we've got any sense at all we would walk away now.

[The Rock]

Flamengo have tonight moved the goalposts over Muniz , they now want Fulham to pay more for a lesser share, 75% instead of 80%
If we've got any sense at all we would walk away now.

Source? We'll be taken to the cleaners for sure. What's an extra 5% and a 2 week delay due to Covid?

I still think we'll get him and it will be fine. The force is strong with Silva and Muniz. It's meant to be, until it is not.

[General]

Flamengo have tonight moved the goalposts over Muniz , they now want Fulham to pay more for a lesser share, 75% instead of 80%
If we've got any sense at all we would walk away now.

Source? We'll be taken to the cleaners for sure. What's an extra 5% and a 2 week delay due to Covid?

I still think we'll get him and it will be fine. The force is strong with Silva and Muniz. It's meant to be, until it is not.

It's the same journo from brasil who has been across the story quite reliably since the beginning.

Apparently fulham had everything agreed but then heard what flamengo had agreed with boro (lesser terms) - we agreed to pay 80% of players cost up to 8 million but 'apparently ' boros accepted offer was 50%, so typical Khan is trying to renegotiate. That's apparently the latest.

Would seem stupid for one or the other to try to pull the wool over the others eyes. Seems very childish. Hopefully everything will be signed and done soon and this won't actually be a thing.

The same journalist also said it was a done deal beforehand so I don't know how it could be a done deal and then not be so.

Flamengo pediu € 8 milhões por 80% de Rodrigo Muniz. Fulham topou.

Depois, o Fla mudou de novo: pediu 4+4,5 por 75%. Fulham não aceitou e fecharam em 4+4 por 80%.

Agora, o Fulham soube da oferta que o Fla havia topado do Middlesbrough, de vender 50%, e ofertou € 6 por 50%.

— Venê Casagrande (@venecasagrande) July 31, 2021

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Have to admit the translations aren't the best and are slightly confusing.

[General]

This is a better translation that seems to explain the situation a bit better.

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Loosely translated

- Flamengo asked for a value, Fulham accepted.  - Flamengo saw that it was easy, asked for a taller one, Fulham did not accept and returned the first one.  -> Fulham discovered that Flamengo, before negotiating with them, accepted a lower mt proposal and then lowered the price they were paying

[junior white]

This is a better translation that seems to explain the situation a bit better.

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Loosely translated

- Flamengo asked for a value, Fulham accepted.  - Flamengo saw that it was easy, asked for a taller one, Fulham did not accept and returned the first one.  -> Fulham discovered that Flamengo, before negotiating with them, accepted a lower mt proposal and then lowered the price they were paying

So Flamengo now trying to get mor money upfront?

An unknown hopefully one o f our ITK's can update us

[AJW48361]

Muniz what's all the fuss about we shouldn't be  relying on a 20 year novice.

[bobby01]

NFR. If Grealish decides not to leave, villa are in big ffp problems.

[General]

This is a better translation that seems to explain the situation a bit better.

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Loosely translated

- Flamengo asked for a value, Fulham accepted.  - Flamengo saw that it was easy, asked for a taller one, Fulham did not accept and returned the first one.  -> Fulham discovered that Flamengo, before negotiating with them, accepted a lower mt proposal and then lowered the price they were paying

So Flamengo now trying to get mor money upfront?

An unknown hopefully one o f our ITK's can update us

No. Looks like we're trying to pay less in line with a lower offer that flamengo accepted from boro.

[HillingdonFFC]

Muniz what's all the fuss about we shouldn't be  relying on a 20 year novice.

The fuss is he's Silva's number one target, he had him lined up for wherever he ended up managing. It's backing the manager & it's actually good to see from Fulham
How good is he? We don't know, an element of risk for sure but he could turn out to be a brilliant buy
Domestically, can't see too many stand out players who we could attract either

[WestSussexWhite]

This is a better translation that seems to explain the situation a bit better.

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Loosely translated

- Flamengo asked for a value, Fulham accepted.  - Flamengo saw that it was easy, asked for a taller one, Fulham did not accept and returned the first one.  -> Fulham discovered that Flamengo, before negotiating with them, accepted a lower mt proposal and then lowered the price they were paying

So Flamengo now trying to get mor money upfront?

An unknown hopefully one o f our ITK's can update us

No. Looks like we're trying to pay less in line with a lower offer that flamengo accepted from boro.

So this deal is actually probably better for Flamengo in the long run. If he is good and sell him for 40 million. They will get 20 million of it! For what it's worth, I still think the deal happens. It seems both teams are bartering for a better deal

[gang]

NFR. If Grealish decides not to leave, villa are in big ffp problems.

Doesn't apply in the Premiership

[bobby01]

NFR. If Grealish decides not to leave, villa are in big ffp problems.

Doesn't apply in the Premiership

Pretty sure ffp is there as well just a larger amount

[Barrett487]

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/fulham-fc-news/exclusive-efl-insider-says-lys-mousset-could-be-tempted-to-swap-sheffield-for-fulham-e185/

Exclusive: EFL insider says Lys Mousset could be tempted to swap Sheffield for Fulham

[PaulJ123]

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/fulham-fc-news/exclusive-efl-insider-says-lys-mousset-could-be-tempted-to-swap-sheffield-for-fulham-e185/

Exclusive: EFL insider says Lys Mousset could be tempted to swap Sheffield for Fulham

This article says absolutely nothing but I do rate Mousset.

[General]

This is a better translation that seems to explain the situation a bit better.

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Loosely translated

- Flamengo asked for a value, Fulham accepted.  - Flamengo saw that it was easy, asked for a taller one, Fulham did not accept and returned the first one.  -> Fulham discovered that Flamengo, before negotiating with them, accepted a lower mt proposal and then lowered the price they were paying

So Flamengo now trying to get mor money upfront?

An unknown hopefully one o f our ITK's can update us

No. Looks like we're trying to pay less in line with a lower offer that flamengo accepted from boro.

So this deal is actually probably better for Flamengo in the long run. If he is good and sell him for 40 million. They will get 20 million of it! For what it's worth, I still think the deal happens. It seems both teams are bartering for a better deal

No, the deal is better for us from what I can tell, but that's only if we successfully renegotiate which if we are trying to do isn't guaranteed. I hope we get the deal over the line

[General]

Muniz what's all the fuss about we shouldn't be  relying on a 20 year novice.

He's considered to be a pretty promising talent in Brazil but a lot if Brazilian fans. He was third choice striker for flamengo but 20 and they're one of the better/best/biggest clubs in South America and they've apparently got two very good forwards in front of him.

Seems a few flamengo fans are disappointed to see him go and have said that they think he has all the attributes to be a Brazil international number 9. He's strong, good in the air, has pace etc.

I think silva knows this and believes he can train him to get to that level.

It is a punt but out of all the youth players we've signed over the years (casasola for instance and others) he seems  the most developed.

The equivalent , although I appreciate the difference in league quality and overall standard, would be taking a youth player a level down perhaps from Saka or Rowe for instance who's at the beginning of that journey where they have the potential to be a starter and are on their way.

Ahead of where Roberts was when we sold him, if you remember the hype around him and then his move but failed ability to prove himself at city. Muniz is kinda at the stage where he's at a city equivalent but getting games and scoring.

[filham]

Muniz what's all the fuss about we shouldn't be  relying on a 20 year novice.

Agree and we know that overseas players new to this country are a risk and can have difficulty settling at the Cottage.
However with only nine goals scored at home last season and hardly a good shot on target yesterday we are desperate to introduce a spark into our attack.

[WestSussexWhite]

This is a better translation that seems to explain the situation a bit better.

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Loosely translated

- Flamengo asked for a value, Fulham accepted.  - Flamengo saw that it was easy, asked for a taller one, Fulham did not accept and returned the first one.  -> Fulham discovered that Flamengo, before negotiating with them, accepted a lower mt proposal and then lowered the price they were paying

So Flamengo now trying to get mor money upfront?

An unknown hopefully one o f our ITK's can update us

No. Looks like we're trying to pay less in line with a lower offer that flamengo accepted from boro.

So this deal is actually probably better for Flamengo in the long run. If he is good and sell him for 40 million. They will get 20 million of it! For what it's worth, I still think the deal happens. It seems both teams are bartering for a better deal

No, the deal is better for us from what I can tell, but that's only if we successfully renegotiate which if we are trying to do isn't guaranteed. I hope we get the deal over the line

Vene thinks Flamengo will accept the new deal