Standing

[Peabody]

I fully appreciate that youngsters like to stand during a game, it helps to generat an atmosphere, I was young once but then, standing was the norm. Today I was in the Hammy Endand there where a few empty seats in front of me, which were suddenly filled after the twenty minute mark, by a group of young bloke who had watched the game on the concourse while they finished their beers. From then on I couldn't see any of the action because they kept on standing up. Please, I get it but one day these youngsters will not be young and they will develop things like arthritis etc and become a moaning Minnie, like me, because some youngster will be standing front of them, depriving them of a decent view of the game.

[Mickeyboro]

I fully appreciate that youngsters like to stand during a game, it helps to generat an atmosphere, I was young once but then, standing was the norm. Today I was in the Hammy Endand there where a few empty seats in front of me, which were suddenly filled after the twenty minute mark, by a group of young bloke who had watched the game on the concourse while they finished their beers. From then on I couldn't see any of the action because they kept on standing up. Please, I get it but one day these youngsters will not be young and they will develop things like arthritis etc and become a moaning Minnie, like me, because some youngster will be standing front of them, depriving them of a decent view of the game.

My wife won't come now because at her last game, a 3-1, she only saw one goal...


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[alfie]

I fully appreciate that youngsters like to stand during a game, it helps to generat an atmosphere, I was young once but then, standing was the norm. Today I was in the Hammy Endand there where a few empty seats in front of me, which were suddenly filled after the twenty minute mark, by a group of young bloke who had watched the game on the concourse while they finished their beers. From then on I couldn't see any of the action because they kept on standing up. Please, I get it but one day these youngsters will not be young and they will develop things like arthritis etc and become a moaning Minnie, like me, because some youngster will be standing front of them, depriving them of a decent view of the game.

Well that's the reason I don't go anymore, I begrudge paying out a good few quid to stare at some blokes backside, when I said this a while ago I was instantly told to "go and sit down the front then"
I don't want to sit down the front and not be able to see the wider aspects of the game. I get that some want to stand, but it's a bit of "I'm all right Jack sod the rest of you".

There that's my moan out of the way.

[SP]

I did my first commute back to central London last week & it's clear the modern way is screw you, I'll do exactly what I want regardless of the impact on anyone else.

[bog]

You're not a moaning minnie Peabody. That is bloody rude and thoughtless behaviour.  :031: Where were the stewards?  The money paid to watch a game should not be interrupted like that. Yes we jump (or I try to) when something looks likely to happen and when we score but otherwise sit down!


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[StuinSalop]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

[toshes mate]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

Nail on head. 

Seating only should never have been the way to go at PL or any other level of football and safe standing has been available throughout to satisfy the safety argument about too many people crammed into too little space is dangerous.  Standing or sitting makes no difference to capacity where safe standing is provided and if you need to sit down for any reason then there is a seat just behind you if you need it and it isn't locked up.  The football authorities need to look after all fans young or old and have a duty of care to do so.  No wonder attendances are falling because the authorities can't be bothered to do a job properly as long as their gravy train is operating as they hoped.

[bigalffc]

I've had this problem many times in the hammy end. Stewards should do more.

[Andy S]

Seating was bought in to make watching matches safer after the violence of the 1970s. Safe standing has been available in Europe for a good few years now and should be available here as well. I used to stand but I now need a seat as I am older and the legs aren't what they were. I don't really understand why people need to jump up as if your view  is not impaired why would you? But the people in front of me jump up then I have to and it is like a domino effect. It happens in the Hammy end but does it happen all around the ground?

[Peabody]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

Agreed

[Peabody]

Seating was bought in to make watching matches safer after the violence of the 1970s. Safe standing has been available in Europe for a good few years now and should be available here as well. I used to stand but I now need a seat as I am older and the legs aren't what they were. I don't really understand why people need to jump up as if your view  is not impaired why would you? But the people in front of me jump up then I have to and it is like a domino effect. It happens in the Hammy end but does it happen all around the ground

It does

[Woolly Mammoth]

Agree and it is ridiculous that people stand up as soon as Fulham cross the halfway line, it is absolutely ridiculous, ignorant and antisocial to stand up in front of the person behind you preventing them for viewing the action and spectate showing no consideration.
In the absence of any quick fix Safe Standing has to be the answer, to allow people to sit in the seat they paid for to view the action. If any inconsiderate neanderthal stood up in front of me blocking my
view and then refuse to stay seated when asked politely.
Unfortunately for them i would not Stand for it, and i would not take it Sitting down either.

[Peabody]

Agree and it is ridiculous that people stand up as soon as Fulham cross the halfway line, it is absolutely ridiculous, ignorant and antisocial to stand up in front of the person behind you preventing them for viewing the action and spectate showing no consideration.
In the absence of any quick fix Safe Standing has to be the answer, to allow people to sit in the seat they paid for to view the action. If any inconsiderate neanderthal stood up in front of me blocking my
view and then refuse to stay seated when asked politely.
Unfortunately for them i would not Stand for it, and i would not take it Sitting down either.

I did get a little fexated (is that a word?) Wooly

[Woolly Mammoth]

Agree and it is ridiculous that people stand up as soon as Fulham cross the halfway line, it is absolutely ridiculous, ignorant and antisocial to stand up in front of the person behind you preventing them for viewing the action and spectate showing no consideration.
In the absence of any quick fix Safe Standing has to be the answer, to allow people to sit in the seat they paid for to view the action. If any inconsiderate neanderthal stood up in front of me blocking my
view and then refuse to stay seated when asked politely.
Unfortunately for them i would not Stand for it, and i would not take it Sitting down either.

I did get a little fexated (is that a word?) Wooly

I think the word you are thinking of Peabody is "Fixated".
Although i feel you are being harsh on yourself and my observation is that you are naturally concerned due to circumstances beyond your control at the moment.

Therefore i think there is a more appropriate word which is " absorbed " and you are not the only one.

[Ashington White]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

But even with safe-standing you'll still have oriole standing up in front of oriole who might want to sit down.

[Ashington White]

I've had this problem many times in the hammy end. Stewards should do more.

Yes I "sit" at the back of the Hammy End and it's standing for 90 minutes because the row in front are stood up...because the row in front of them are stood up, and so it goes on. It is the domino effect as someone says above.

[alfie]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

People are not allowed to stand now, but they do.

[fulhamfever]

Safe standing zones are introduced for this purpose they should buy tickets for this section if they wanna stand

[bobbo]

It's now already starting to happen in the new stand in lower section wher I sit . Already I don't go to very many away games because of it . The club (s) seem unable or unwilling to address it . So after attending regularly since 1958 I'm thinking I may not renew my season ticket after 46 years continuous . Sad but a fact.

[Logicalman]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

I won't fix the problem unfortunately, it will mitigate it somewhat, but only for those that buy tickets for the standing area, and that will then depend on the location of the said area, and cost.