Standing

[SP]

It's now already starting to happen in the new stand in lower section wher I sit . Already I don't go to very many away games because of it . The club (s) seem unable or unwilling to address it . So after attending regularly since 1958 I'm thinking I may not renew my season ticket after 46 years continuous . Sad but a fact.

Very sad to hear.

Hearing this fuels the arguments I've seen on other boards that little effort is made for our diehard supporters.  I really don't want to believe that they actually want to replace you (us) with people who'll pay £12 for a glass of Prosecco & some popcorn.

[ffcthereligion]

Appreciate the demographic on the board is probably 55+ on average but football is an emotional game and the notion that idea that fans shouldn't even stand up in a moment of excitement when we are on the attack is preposterous to me. If we take that out of football it simply wouldn't be what it is. Fulham means a lot to all of us and sometimes you can't contain your excitement. However, I agree that fans shouldn't just stand up in front of others all game and not care about who is behind them. I personally like to stand but will not do so if the person behind me asks if i can sit and do not buy tickets at the front of away games

[Ashington White]

That's very considerate of you👍. As I mentioned earlier, I always have to stand at the back of the Hammy End, but if I'm sat at an away game for example, I always like to be conscious of the person behind me if I stand...and I'll only stand if the people in front of me are.  I sat in a different part of the Hammy End for the Chelsea game and actually got to sit down for a lot of it.

[Mince n Tatties]

It happens at every club,it happens through adrenaline and excitement,you naturally jump up when you think a goals going in,I do it's just natural.
If you stay seated when a goal goes in,then you are at the wrong place, should be at the Opera not in a football ground.

[HV71]

I'm fed up with it and I'm in the Riverside . It's bloody ridiculous and shows no respect for others end of

[Ashington White]

It happens at every club,it happens through adrenaline and excitement,you naturally jump up when you think a goals going in,I do it's just natural.
If you stay seated when a goal goes in,then you are at the wrong place, should be at the Opera not in a football ground.

I quite agree, but I don't think that's the issue here.

[Fulham 442]

This is precisely why you need standing areas that rail seating gives you.  Then seating only areas where people are not allowed to stand.  It's blindingly obvious.

Nail on head. 

Seating only should never have been the way to go at PL or any other level of football and safe standing has been available throughout to satisfy the safety argument about too many people crammed into too little space is dangerous.  Standing or sitting makes no difference to capacity where safe standing is provided and if you need to sit down for any reason then there is a seat just behind you if you need it and it isn't locked up.  The football authorities need to look after all fans young or old and have a duty of care to do so.  No wonder attendances are falling because the authorities can't be bothered to do a job properly as long as their gravy train is operating as they hoped.

Agree with this. I would always prefer to stand at a game if possible but realise not everyone wants to, or can. All should be catered for imo..

[Ashington White]

The only issues with safestanding is that we would have to have the barriers installed in front of every seat affected, and then have a big overhaul of who has season tickets where, i.e. move people who currently have season tickets in the area that becomes safestanding who want to sit in that area. Could cause a lot of problems moving people who've been sitting there for years.

[LittleErn]

Standing up or sitting down - makes no difference to me. At 5 foot 4 inches I still can't see! If I can get in to the opposition area it is better as they don't stand up when I do! A bit risky but at 82 I think they take pity on me.

[KentFulham]

No one complained about it for the decades it was all standing?

I feel for the OP, but in reality seated (Sit Down) areas are the JH and Riverside, behind the goals is typically standing, and hopefully will return to safe standing in the near future. I am no longer classed as a youngster, and certainly the legs are not what they used to be, but I dont see an issue with the standing in the back 30 plus rows that I currently see.

[Ashington White]

Because everyone stood as it was a terrace, no-one had the option to sit down and find themselves unable to see.

That may be how it's become, but it's not officially like that - it's all-seater, end of.  As I've mentioned earlier, I find myself having to stand for the whole game every game at the back of the Hammy End, I've no major problem with it, but others might have.

[HamsterWheel]

So what we need are some safe standing areas at the back and compulsory sitting areas at the front.
The sitting ones could have lap bars like those on chairlifts or theme parks which are only released at half and full time. Would stop the annoyance of late arrivals and those irritants who leave a few minutes before half time to get in the beer/pee queues too....

[General]

Put the standing area in the putney stand. Guarantee its what standing people deserve. Plus it still won't solve the problem of people selfishly standing despite people behind them not having a choice at times.

[ffcthereligion]

Put the standing area in the putney stand. Guarantee its what standing people deserve. Plus it still won't solve the problem of people selfishly standing despite people behind them not having a choice at times.

Cant see that happening as it'll likely attract the gobby kids giving it to the away fans and there is no segregation in the concourse below

[toshes mate]

No one complained about it for the decades it was all standing?

I feel for the OP, but in reality seated (Sit Down) areas are the JH and Riverside, behind the goals is typically standing, and hopefully will return to safe standing in the near future. I am no longer classed as a youngster, and certainly the legs are not what they used to be, but I dont see an issue with the standing in the back 30 plus rows that I currently see.

Once (at a ground I will not name) I was, as a unaccompanied 10 year old with same age friends, lifted over the concrete barrier and placed on the dog racing track with a whole host of other kids simply because the place was jam packed full.  Funny how standing only people seemed to care in those days ... but segregating sitters and standers is going to cause all manner of upheaval!   I am just happy to see live football and enjoy the atmosphere and if I miss something then these days I'll make sure to watch the full match video when and if I can something I couldn't do as a kid.   Just wish football was still as cheap as chips and people showed genuine respect.

[@jolslover]

It happens at every club,it happens through adrenaline and excitement,you naturally jump up when you think a goals going in,I do it's just natural.
If you stay seated when a goal goes in,then you are at the wrong place, should be at the Opera not in a football ground.

Agree

[@jolslover]

Appreciate the demographic on the board is probably 55+ on average but football is an emotional game and the notion that idea that fans shouldn't even stand up in a moment of excitement when we are on the attack is preposterous to me. If we take that out of football it simply wouldn't be what it is. Fulham means a lot to all of us and sometimes you can't contain your excitement. However, I agree that fans shouldn't just stand up in front of others all game and not care about who is behind them. I personally like to stand but will not do so if the person behind me asks if i can sit and do not buy tickets at the front of away games

Agree

[General]

Appreciate the demographic on the board is probably 55+ on average but football is an emotional game and the notion that idea that fans shouldn't even stand up in a moment of excitement when we are on the attack is preposterous to me. If we take that out of football it simply wouldn't be what it is. Fulham means a lot to all of us and sometimes you can't contain your excitement. However, I agree that fans shouldn't just stand up in front of others all game and not care about who is behind them. I personally like to stand but will not do so if the person behind me asks if i can sit and do not buy tickets at the front of away games

Agree

But that's not the point nor the argument. Of course when things get exciting and in an attack fair enough. It's people who don't know the nuance of this and stand up in front of everyone for as much of the game as possible. Don't do it.

[General]

No one complained about it for the decades it was all standing?

I feel for the OP, but in reality seated (Sit Down) areas are the JH and Riverside, behind the goals is typically standing, and hopefully will return to safe standing in the near future. I am no longer classed as a youngster, and certainly the legs are not what they used to be, but I dont see an issue with the standing in the back 30 plus rows that I currently see.

Like the idea of putting the designated standing areas at the back of the stand. That'd be a good compromise.

[ffcthereligion]

Appreciate the demographic on the board is probably 55+ on average but football is an emotional game and the notion that idea that fans shouldn't even stand up in a moment of excitement when we are on the attack is preposterous to me. If we take that out of football it simply wouldn't be what it is. Fulham means a lot to all of us and sometimes you can't contain your excitement. However, I agree that fans shouldn't just stand up in front of others all game and not care about who is behind them. I personally like to stand but will not do so if the person behind me asks if i can sit and do not buy tickets at the front of away games

Agree

But that's not the point nor the argument. Of course when things get exciting and in an attack fair enough. It's people who don't know the nuance of this and stand up in front of everyone for as much of the game as possible. Don't do it.

With respect posters have on this thread gone as far to say that fans standing up 'as soon as we cross the halfway line' ie in an attacking moment, or at all in the riverside should not be be doing so, and that there is no need to do so anyway as your view of the attack doesn't change sitting down. So i think that point IS being made and I think that can be challenged