Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2024

[hopper]

Esr 34m
Andersen 30m
Berge 25m
Cuenca 7m
Sess free

*fixed it for you

Why are you jumping to the highest figure like all add ons have already been met?

[Bassey the warrior]

With Berge and Andersen, maybe the club will try some loan options on deadline day.

I think we'll get an attacking player Marco requested on a full transfer too. Then, anything on top of that would be loans.

I wonder how this window, if we get in Berge, Andersen, a LW and possibly Andre, would set us up in terms of financially in the next few windows. You'd like to think we'd be covered in a lot of ways, but would want to build with quality.. it's obviously a promising place, but wondering how quickly we can recover our finances to bring in those extra players of quality to build on this squad, because it will start to become more a case of bringing in the odd quality player vs needing to refresh the entire squad constantly.

We'd be wise to set aside money for a striker in January as it's not clear how many goals Jimenez, Muniz and Stansfield will get. I rate Muniz but he's still young and his form will fluctuate, Jimenez seems a real streaky player and Stansfield is unproven at this level. I'm not saying we'll struggle for goals but it's a possibility.

[Deeping_white]

Jota wants out of Al Ittihad and it looks like they're in discussions to release him from his contract - could be an outside option as a LW and he's also Portugese so will fit in nicely

[Bassey the warrior]

Cottage Talk are classifying Sander Berge as an "poor man's Mctominay"... Just because he will be 10 mill less I do not think he cannot be better than Mctominay, and also I prefer an player that would want to join Fulham on the first offer and seems fair to me if Sander Berge does in fact join, Would like to see him play for Fulham.

It's interesting, I don't see Berge as a DM and would be slightly disappointed if he played there for us and we didn't try and go for Andre too.. that being said, if we did get in Andre, and Berge played higher up in a midfield pairing, then it'd make much more sense for me.

I have to admit, Berge I'm open to keeping an open mind about, but he's less exciting for me personally as a player, but I'd be happy obviously to be proven wrong.

On here it does include defensive midfield on secondary/other positions
https://www.transfermarkt.com/sander-berge/profil/spieler/333014

I don't think we're getting another midfielder unless we sell one (which as I said, would most likely be Reed), but I don't think Berge will play as a typical dm or cm, but rather in a hybrid role similar to what we had with Lukic and Reed when they played together in Palhinha's absence last season. 2 of Berge/Lukic/Reed will play together (assuming Andreas experiment at 8 is over, which I hope is the case).

Agree. I don't expect us to sign Andre.

[Twig]

Esr 34m
Andersen 30m
Berge 25m
Cuenca 7m
Sess free

*fixed it for you

Why are you jumping to the highest figure like all add ons have already been met?

I think he's just trying to exaggerate the numbers to continue to make his point? However IF we end up paying those numbers the we will all be ecstatic because it will mean that we will have been enjoying unprecedented success. And of course the transfer fees will have been well and truly vindicated!

[jayffc]

Esr 34m
Andersen 30m
Berge 25m
Cuenca 7m
Sess free

*fixed it for you

These arent the figures weve paid so you havent fixed it at all. Youve only fixed it to suit a narrative

If you actually wanted to fix it youd just say, correct,currently- although it could be up to... X amount providing we hit all addons. Which would be reasonable.

Thesd figures are the absolute max we could* pay

In the case of ESR its the fee well pay ONLY if we win silverware and qualify for Europe according to the beeb, in which case theyll be worth every penny . For all you know this could well be the case for all the others too.

[Twig]

Circa £55 million for Anderson and Berge.
Doesn't float my boat in terms of team uplift and certainly no future resale value.
Anderson looks slow to me. I will give Berge the benefit of the doubt but sometimes he looks lethargic to me and definitely does not contribute enough goals. Having said that friends of mine who are Burnley season ticket holders rave about him and believe he is comfortably a top 8 side midfielder.
I will of course be cheering both players on and hope they have great FFC careers....
Still hope that we are targeting another midfielder and I believe we desperately need a pacey striker with predatory instincts ...

You do understand add on fees I assume? We will be paying c.£45m not £55m. If (and it remains a big if) we end up paying £55m it will be because the add ons have been triggered due to the success enjoyed by the club as a result of these transfers. So I bloody well hope we do end up paying out £55m!

[Twig]

Esr 34m
Andersen 30m
Berge 25m
Cuenca 7m
Sess free

*fixed it for you

These arent the figures weve paid so you havent fixed it at all.

They are the max we could* pay

In the case of ESR its the fee well pay ONLY if we win silverware and qualify for Europe according to the beeb, in which case theyll be worth every penny . For all you know this could well be the case for all the others too.

Let's hope we do end up paying those maximum numbers because we will all be enjoying an incredible journey!

[General]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

[jayffc]

Esr 34m
Andersen 30m
Berge 25m
Cuenca 7m
Sess free

*fixed it for you

These arent the figures weve paid so you havent fixed it at all.

They are the max we could* pay

In the case of ESR its the fee well pay ONLY if we win silverware and qualify for Europe according to the beeb, in which case theyll be worth every penny . For all you know this could well be the case for all the others too.

Let's hope we do end up paying those maximum numbers because we will all be enjoying an incredible journey!

Exactly, the point of add ons is generally that they are only triggered on the assumption that the transfer has been a success because the player has hit specific individual achievements, or the team as a whole have. In which case, youre probably happy to pay it.

[jayffc]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

Yeh watching now on bein sports usa.
Worst possible start IF were even wanting to secure him. Although sounds like they gotta sell him regardless, just might not be as desperate immediately

[Drewry66]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

I suppose it prob doesn't overly matter. Trey probably wanted to keep him to get through this tie. If they win they will earn more but guessing it is a drop in the ocean compared to their debts of over £100m. They'll still need to sell him before the window closes. Whether it is to us is another matter of course.

[Somerset Fulham]

All of this could go to hell in a handcart of course, but it is great to see 99% of the responders to this thread pretty much in agreement.

Its a rare thing!

[jayffc]

Jota wants out of Al Ittihad and it looks like they're in discussions to release him from his contract - could be an outside option as a LW and he's also Portugese so will fit in nicely

Would be well up for this and he was once linked

[General]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

I suppose it prob doesn't overly matter. Trey probably wanted to keep him to get through this tie. If they win they will earn more but guessing it is a drop in the ocean compared to their debts of over £100m. They'll still need to sell him before the window closes. Whether it is to us is another matter of course.

Does the South American/Brazilian transfer window mirror Europes/the PL's?

I know the rumours of Fluminense being broke are all over the place, but do we know for a fact that it's as bad as we're seeing on socials? How do we know they actually have to sell Andre. They're getting good games out of him still, they're winning matches and he's helping them get out of the relegation places etc... but my concern is we've fallen for them being in deep financial trouble, when we've as a fan base perhaps misread the situation and they don't actually need to?

[Drewry66]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

I suppose it prob doesn't overly matter. Trey probably wanted to keep him to get through this tie. If they win they will earn more but guessing it is a drop in the ocean compared to their debts of over £100m. They'll still need to sell him before the window closes. Whether it is to us is another matter of course.

Does the South American/Brazilian transfer window mirror Europes/the PL's?

I know the rumours of Fluminense being broke are all over the place, but do we know for a fact that it's as bad as we're seeing on socials? How do we know they actually have to sell Andre. They're getting good games out of him still, they're winning matches and he's helping them get out of the relegation places etc... but my concern is we've fallen for them being in deep financial trouble, when we've as a fan base perhaps misread the situation and they don't actually need to?

They will be selling to Europe as Europe will be the only ones with the money so key is our deadlines. I've read a fair bit on it. Posted an article on it but a bit late to try and find it. Over £100m in debt by all accounts (which over there is of course massive) and struggling to pay players wages by all accounts. Seems to accepted by all that I've read over there that they have to sell him to basically keep running. They sold one of their other better players for around £12 million I believe the other day.

[General]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

I suppose it prob doesn't overly matter. Trey probably wanted to keep him to get through this tie. If they win they will earn more but guessing it is a drop in the ocean compared to their debts of over £100m. They'll still need to sell him before the window closes. Whether it is to us is another matter of course.

Does the South American/Brazilian transfer window mirror Europes/the PL's?

I know the rumours of Fluminense being broke are all over the place, but do we know for a fact that it's as bad as we're seeing on socials? How do we know they actually have to sell Andre. They're getting good games out of him still, they're winning matches and he's helping them get out of the relegation places etc... but my concern is we've fallen for them being in deep financial trouble, when we've as a fan base perhaps misread the situation and they don't actually need to?

They will be selling to Europe as Europe will be the only ones with the money so key is our deadlines. I've read a fair bit on it. Posted an article on it but a bit late to try and find it. Over £100m in debt by all accounts (which over there is of course massive) and struggling to pay players wages by all accounts. Seems to accepted by all that I've read over there that they have to sell him to basically keep running. They sold one of their other better players for around £12 million I believe the other day.

What's the knock on effect for them of having sold their player for £12m already?

[Drewry66]

Fluminense currently 2-0 up inside 38 minutes in their Copa Libertadores match vs Gremio... On aggregate that puts them up 3-2, and they're playing at home.. still a lot of the match to play, but whilst good for them, doesn't necessarily help us with our potential pursuit of Andre.

I suppose it prob doesn't overly matter. Trey probably wanted to keep him to get through this tie. If they win they will earn more but guessing it is a drop in the ocean compared to their debts of over £100m. They'll still need to sell him before the window closes. Whether it is to us is another matter of course.

Does the South American/Brazilian transfer window mirror Europes/the PL's?

I know the rumours of Fluminense being broke are all over the place, but do we know for a fact that it's as bad as we're seeing on socials? How do we know they actually have to sell Andre. They're getting good games out of him still, they're winning matches and he's helping them get out of the relegation places etc... but my concern is we've fallen for them being in deep financial trouble, when we've as a fan base perhaps misread the situation and they don't actually need to?

They will be selling to Europe as Europe will be the only ones with the money so key is our deadlines. I've read a fair bit on it. Posted an article on it but a bit late to try and find it. Over £100m in debt by all accounts (which over there is of course massive) and struggling to pay players wages by all accounts. Seems to accepted by all that I've read over there that they have to sell him to basically keep running. They sold one of their other better players for around £12 million I believe the other day.

What's the knock on effect for them of having sold their player for £12m already?

Nothing as far as I am aware. They are over £100m in debt. They need to sell multiple assets and it still won't get them anywhere near back in the black. They only have one or two that are worth much as far as I am aware.

[jayffc]

Gremio pull one back but ruled offside.

Gotta be honest, after watching another full game now of brazillian football... probably on around 4full games of fluminese now and The quality of footy is very poor generally.

I can understand our hesitancy to blast massive money over whats been offered already for Andre.

[General]

Palace fan comments on the possible transfer of Andersen to Fulham. Seems like they're gutted. He's lost pace and recently seemed a bit disinterested, but fundamentally they understand his value in leadership, diagonal balls and as a CB who's been on of their best alongside Guehi for a while.

https://www.cpfc.org/forums/forum/crystal-palace-football-club/general-palace-discussion/232122-joachim-andersen-he-s-gone-a-bit-crap/page30