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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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demeant0r

DCL is definitely an upgrade on Vini but that's not difficult though his injury history is quite a worry.

LC

After reading through this thread I just want to make a quick point.

Are we under pressure to sign players early? If so why?

From my point of view, we have an established squad in place and I don't think we are looking at a rebuild or anything like that so I don't think we are under pressure to sign players early. It was different a few seasons ago when we were rebuilding the squad to survive in the PL, but we're not in the same position. I think we need 4 or so players and there's plenty of time until the start of the season, obviously every club wants to do business early, but I don't think we are under any significant pressure - I would prefer the club to make the right deal and pay the right price.

demeant0r

Quote from: LC on July 02, 2025, 07:02:06 PMAfter reading through this thread I just want to make a quick point.

Are we under pressure to sign players early? If so why?

From my point of view, we have an established squad in place and I don't think we are looking at a rebuild or anything like that so I don't think we are under pressure to sign players early. It was different a few seasons ago when we were rebuilding the squad to survive in the PL, but we're not in the same position. I think we need 4 or so players and there's plenty of time until the start of the season, obviously every club wants to do business early, but I don't think we are under any significant pressure - I would prefer the club to make the right deal and pay the right price.

Earlier we sign players we want, the more time they have to bed into the team. Don't forget Marco is very reluctant to start new players unless you're the quality of Palhinha.


Deeping_white

Quote from: JimmyConway on July 02, 2025, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on July 02, 2025, 04:44:39 PMWe will sign Calvert Lewin on a free
Don't have a problem with that. I would imagine any club signing him will have discussions in regards to injuries and likely have a clause or two? Sometimes it's worth the gamble knowing if it does click we have a very good forward on our hands. We are likely to only sign players of his class in this type of situation as they would be way out of our reach and unlikely to come.

I'm not sure what class does DCL actually have? He's had two seasons in his career where he's got into double figures for goals, and at 28 he's got less than 80 senior career goals; if he wasn't English I don't think he'd still be a PL player considering he's scored 17 goals in the last four seasons

irish_mike

Article in the Evening Standard tonight to seems to have a club line that we are relaxed about business and we are stronger than other clubs.

"The Whites are calm about their lack of movement in the transfer window and believe their solid foundations, reinforced by Tete's new contract, mean they're in a better position than those around them to build on last season."

Deuce

#1565
Quote from: LC on July 02, 2025, 07:02:06 PMAfter reading through this thread I just want to make a quick point.

Are we under pressure to sign players early? If so why?

From my point of view, we have an established squad in place and I don't think we are looking at a rebuild or anything like that so I don't think we are under pressure to sign players early. It was different a few seasons ago when we were rebuilding the squad to survive in the PL, but we're not in the same position. I think we need 4 or so players and there's plenty of time until the start of the season, obviously every club wants to do business early, but I don't think we are under any significant pressure - I would prefer the club to make the right deal and pay the right price.
This has been debated over the last couple of years. Personally, Ive resigned to the fact that Fulham is a club that tends to do its business late, baring one or two exceptions. We are a club that tends to look broadly at a range of players and get the one with the best value. Usually, that means leaving it late.

The main reason Id like to get our business done early is mainly due to Silva having expressed this wish time and time again. Probably so that he can get them up to speed on the way we play during preseason, and not having to wait 2-3 League games or what not.

And a side point to that argument: depending on our schedule, Id say sometimes the difference between getting a signing in early or late might be the difference between 3 points instead of 1 or 0, against clubs that might be our direct competitors

And thirdly, I like it when clubs do seem to have their poo in place, a plan of some sort, an idea of which players you want - and just go and get them early. Liverpool is a good example of this (not comparing them to us, just using them as an example).

However, I do realize that we are a club that cant entirely dictate the terms of the transfer market. But I do think that if we really did know who we wanted to sign, and knew this in april or may, then im sure we could absolutely pull it off.
But, as already mentioned, we dont have that type of transfer approach and on some level I respect that fact


Rightwhite

Quote from: KentFulham on July 02, 2025, 04:44:39 PMWe will sign Calvert Lewin on a free
No doubting his ability and he scores goals but his injury record makes it a firm no from me.

JimmyConway

Quote from: Deeping_white on July 02, 2025, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 02, 2025, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on July 02, 2025, 04:44:39 PMWe will sign Calvert Lewin on a free
Don't have a problem with that. I would imagine any club signing him will have discussions in regards to injuries and likely have a clause or two? Sometimes it's worth the gamble knowing if it does click we have a very good forward on our hands. We are likely to only sign players of his class in this type of situation as they would be way out of our reach and unlikely to come.

I'm not sure what class does DCL actually have? He's had two seasons in his career where he's got into double figures for goals, and at 28 he's got less than 80 senior career goals; if he wasn't English I don't think he'd still be a PL player considering he's scored 17 goals in the last four seasons
Take on board your points but Everton have been a basket case probably over that period of time which would not of helped. He was looking likely to be an England international for sometime someone to go head to head with Kane. Injuries though have hindered his career. Still think there is a very decent centre forward in him given a break with injuries.

Angus Telford

Quote from: irish_mike on July 02, 2025, 07:17:19 PMArticle in the Evening Standard tonight to seems to have a club line that we are relaxed about business and we are stronger than other clubs.

"The Whites are calm about their lack of movement in the transfer window and believe their solid foundations, reinforced by Tete's new contract, mean they're in a better position than those around them to build on last season."

Suppose it depends who we want around us. If it's Everton, Wolves and the newly-promoted clubs, yes we're probably stronger. Don't think we're stronger than any of the other 15.


Texas White

Quote from: DM on July 02, 2025, 05:31:53 PM:Khan_you_fix_it:  :Khan_you_fix_it: :Khan_you_fix_it: quote author=KentFulham link=msg=1569469 date=1751471079]
We will sign Calvert Lewin on a free

No we won't
[/quote]

Are you TK in disguise

hovewhite

On last seasons finishing positions there are 10 clubs better than us but a record number of points 3 players new in this window we are stronger squad wise,more competition
,who cares when playiners are. Bought in.

FFC1987

Meh we're better placed more than than 4-5 clubs to be honest. Lots of clubs around us and below are worse off now than they were, hell, some above us are as well. I can appreciate why there's no rush.


DM

Quote from: Texas White on July 02, 2025, 08:29:21 PM
Quote from: DM on July 02, 2025, 05:31:53 PM:Khan_you_fix_it:  :Khan_you_fix_it: :Khan_you_fix_it: quote author=KentFulham link=msg=1569469 date=1751471079]
We will sign Calvert Lewin on a free

No we won't

Are you TK in disguise
[/quote]
Yes

Angus Telford

#1573
The other clubs below us were SPurs, Man Utd, Palace and West Ham. First two arent remotely debatable. Palace only finished below us because of their poor start and were clearly better than us as the season went on. You could say West Ham are worse/debatable, but even then it's a pretty uninspiring benchmark group of the worst 5-6 teams in the league.

Feels like more of the usual "what's the least we can do without getting relegated?"



FFC1987

Meh. United and Spurs will be better but it's still going to be transitional again. Palace weakened already and could be worse with Eze and Guehi strongly linked to leaving, not to mention rigorous demands of Europa transition. Then look at Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton who have had major players leaving. We've not lost anyone and doesn't look likely we will so I know the pessimists will be alarmed but meh. It's the strongest pre season squad we've had with no glaring weaknesses unfulfilled with plenty of cash to invest in players that will no doubt improve the starting 11 but not compromising how competitive we were last season. We also get second season boosts to players like Smith Rowe with a full pre season. We're looking strong already.

EricB

Quote from: General on July 01, 2025, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: HarryBayles on July 01, 2025, 10:07:45 AMVini removed today from the squad list on the official website but Cairney and Tete remain (as does Nelson). Am I reading too much into it?

Don't think so.

Suppose the club are waiting until Cairney and Tete futures are confirmed and could technically still go either way.

Interesting though that Reiss Nelson hasn't been taken off. Would suggest to me that the club may be in talks to get a deal done.

He was definitely talented and young, but he was injured for a while.. wonder what risks are implied and what the price is.

Looks like Nelson has been removed from the list.

jayffc

Quote from: Deeping_white on July 02, 2025, 10:31:04 PMhttps://twitter.com/aroundjuventus/status/1940521705417724020

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/samuel-mbangula/profil/spieler/654991

21 year old Belgian winger at Juve


Oo interesting


Had some early buzz in juve academy
, looked pacey and tricky but Juves manager hasn't really been all that hot on him yet from my understanding, albeit juventus generally had a bit of an off year so they're not playing brilliantly as a team at the moment. Juve mate likes him, raw still

There's talent in there for sure but there's a way to go to realise his potential. Good prospect though


Angus Telford

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 02, 2025, 10:34:25 PMwith plenty of cash to invest in players that will no doubt improve the starting 11

I can agree with you on this point. But it's moot unless/until we spend that cash, because you can't put a shirt on cash and play it up front. And if the club line is that we're in no rush to buy players because we think we're already stronger than our competitors, that IMO is alarming.

F(f)CUK

Calvert Lewin is like my first car. When it ran it was beautiful to drive, but I spent £2k on garaging bills over 2 years. It was a 2 year old Fiat Uno that cost me £2k. Ended up part exchanging at a garage when the suspension went.