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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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Deuce

Quote from: Rambler on July 24, 2025, 07:34:28 AMI don't see us doing a deal for him (KDH). Chelsea overvalue all their players, they got him for over 30 mil and they'll want to recoup most of that.

He's not worth nearly 30 mil.

We'll likely get him on loan. Pay a loan fee + optional fee to make it permanent and pay most of his wages during the loan. Lets say 5 mil loan fee and the permanent fee is 20 plus add on bonuses or something idk. Chelsea wont get their money back obviously, but in todays market a player like KDH is easily a 20 mil + player

hopper

Quote from: Count Flapula on July 24, 2025, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Chi_FFC on July 23, 2025, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: Chi_FFC on July 01, 2025, 06:40:07 PM
Quote from: hopper on July 01, 2025, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on July 01, 2025, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: hopper on July 01, 2025, 05:28:44 PMApparently Forest have agreed a deal for Malick Fofana, something really weird going on between Eagle Group (Textor) and Marinakis, so many deals - at really favourable rates to Forest.

Where you seen that mate? Was the best rumour for us I've heard but never thought it would happen with Chelsea and Liverpool all over it. If frigging Forrest have got him defo some dodgy arrangements behind the scenes and gutting.

Fabrizio Romano...

For those who don't know. There is a list of deals between Textor and Marinakis that are not representative of normal market value, but all in Marinakis' favour. A broke Lyon spent €31m on Moussa Niakhate before 30 June when Forest massively needed money. While moving on Sarr for €10m who is mow at Chelsea. Also bought Mangala for €25m. Now £10m agreed for Igor Jesus, who is worth around 2-3 times that value.

It's weird. Wonder what Textor is getting as nobody in football would agree to these deals unless there is something else going on we don't know about. Which is plausible given Marinakis' history.
Also earlier this summer a very plugged in US reporter said Matt Turner would be sold to Lyon for $9.1M (basically the same price Forest paid for him which would be an insane fee considering how big of a disaster he was in the PL). Not sure if Lyon's recent relegation will impact that.
An interesting update on the bizarre relationship between Lyon/Textor and NF/Marinakis we discussed a few weeks ago. Would appear Lyon are now trying to get out of the deal for Matt Turner. From L'Equipe:

"Lyon officials have tasked a lawyer with revoking the transfer of Matt Turner, the American goalkeeper from Nottingham Forest, which John Textor had finalized for €8M before the DNCG review."

"OL must pay a high sum for a player of his status and age: €8M. The American international (52 caps) does not have the level to be number 1 in the event of the sale of Lucas Perri and there is no room at the club for a number 2 at this price."

https://x.com/lequipe/status/1948060092839924103




What stinks the most about all of this is that Steve Parrish and Gary Linekar mentioned on the Rest Is Football that Palace being relegated to the Conf League stems from Forest (Marinakis) putting in a formal complaint about Textor's involvement in both Lyon and Palace. You'd think Textor would want nothing to do with Marinakis after that. Stinks to high heaven - Marinakis must have some incredible dirt on him.

There's unquestionably some collusion, but I wonder what it is. I think it's unlikely some kind of blackmail but more so some under the table dealings, or business favours?

The Matt Turner deal is another head scratcher. He was going to bring in Danilo too, who now believe it or not joined his other team Botafogo...

Seems to be a journalistic silence on this, as nobody wants to be done for libel as Marinakis takes everything to court.

KentFulham

A lot to be said for getting the players in early, traning and gelling together, at this rate players will be meeting for the first time at BHA away.



demeant0r

#3064
Quote from: General on July 24, 2025, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: IloveFFC on July 24, 2025, 09:43:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299691340227012

https://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299814321426782

I honestly can't see him agreeing to renew his contract with us if signings in the summer continue to be so slow and difficult while our rivals are speeding ahead and I don't blame him.

What? Why so negative?

I read what Silva said completely differently.

What I think Silva acknowledges is that yes we haven't signed anyone, and he'd like to, but he's acknowledging that the club and himself are working hard, which to me implies a lot of effort to achieve what he wants to see done and an acknowledgement the effort is there, to get the right players in.

Silva also seems to acknowledge that he's not alone in wanting all new players in and suggesting that it's more a part of management then anything particularly frustrating to him individually.

There's a significant difference is putting in no effort, being lazy and ineffective, vs putting in a lot of effort and moving things forward for ambitious targets.

Now, the only slightly ambiguous term for me is that we have a lot of business to do in this market.. does he mean we have a lot of players to bring in? I have a striker, one winger, a backup gk and a goalscoring central midfielder.. which is 4 and not a lot of business.

So maybe another winger, a LB?

6 players though isn't necessarily a lot of business though.

Why am I so negative? Because we are slow and arduous in the transfer window every year, and every year Marco says the same frustrated thing that he'd like transfers in sooner. He's also only got one year left in his contract, if he was happy about it and wasn't frustrated he'd have signed a new contract a while ago.

Why is it that other clubs similar to us like Brighton can have their transfers in early and make a success of them but not us?

jayffc

#3065
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2025, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: IloveFFC on July 24, 2025, 09:43:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299691340227012

https://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299814321426782

I honestly can't see him agreeing to renew his contract with us if signings in the summer continue to be so slow and difficult while our rivals are speeding ahead and I don't blame him.

What? Why so negative?

I read what Silva said completely differently.

What I think Silva acknowledges is that yes we haven't signed anyone, and he'd like to, but he's acknowledging that the club and himself are working hard, which to me implies a lot of effort to achieve what he wants to see done and an acknowledgement the effort is there, to get the right players in.

Silva also seems to acknowledge that he's not alone in wanting all new players in and suggesting that it's more a part of management then anything particularly frustrating to him individually.

There's a significant difference is putting in no effort, being lazy and ineffective, vs putting in a lot of effort and moving things forward for ambitious targets.

Now, the only slightly ambiguous term for me is that we have a lot of business to do in this market.. does he mean we have a lot of players to bring in? I have a striker, one winger, a backup gk and a goalscoring central midfielder.. which is 4 and not a lot of business.

So maybe another winger, a LB?

6 players though isn't necessarily a lot of business though.

Why am I so negative? Because we are slow and arduous in the transfer window every year, and every year Marco says the same frustrated thing that he'd like transfers in sooner. He's also only got one year left in his contract, if he was happy about it and wasn't frustrated he'd have signed a new contract a while ago.

And of late, every year around this convo we've actually ended up starting perfectly well, Last year, same comments all summer - first signing was July 26th (Sess who still didn't play till way into the season) and we were 6th at one point in first half of the season, in fact the issues have generally come at the end of the season rather than the start. People said the same about SIlva extending last time, and he did, and he was backed with some big money signings of players he apparently pushed hard for (ESR being one of the main ones)

Brighton have lost half their squad. Listen, it's definitely a strong start to fixtures this year, but we have a settled squad that hasn't lost any of it's main players and have shown they can compete with the best of them when fit as it is. Yes it needs strenghtening, and strengthen we will. His comments hardly seem like he's livid and kicking off.


Tabby

Pervis Estupinian has joined AC Milan and Wolves sign Jhon Arias.

Coastwalker

Marco looked a tad frustrated to me.🤔



hopper

Player profiling and squad building - very good.

Operations - continually appear to be slow and unprofessional. This is all aspects of the club, last to announce season tickets, pre season, kits etc. Not surprising when a lot of key management are multitasking and based in Florida.

Both are true at once. Not surprised Silva is frustrated, it's groundhog day.

fulhamfan

we got the Fulham Pier opened though  :cheesy:

demeant0r

Quote from: jayffc on July 24, 2025, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2025, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: IloveFFC on July 24, 2025, 09:43:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299691340227012

https://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299814321426782

I honestly can't see him agreeing to renew his contract with us if signings in the summer continue to be so slow and difficult while our rivals are speeding ahead and I don't blame him.

What? Why so negative?

I read what Silva said completely differently.

What I think Silva acknowledges is that yes we haven't signed anyone, and he'd like to, but he's acknowledging that the club and himself are working hard, which to me implies a lot of effort to achieve what he wants to see done and an acknowledgement the effort is there, to get the right players in.

Silva also seems to acknowledge that he's not alone in wanting all new players in and suggesting that it's more a part of management then anything particularly frustrating to him individually.

There's a significant difference is putting in no effort, being lazy and ineffective, vs putting in a lot of effort and moving things forward for ambitious targets.

Now, the only slightly ambiguous term for me is that we have a lot of business to do in this market.. does he mean we have a lot of players to bring in? I have a striker, one winger, a backup gk and a goalscoring central midfielder.. which is 4 and not a lot of business.

So maybe another winger, a LB?

6 players though isn't necessarily a lot of business though.

Why am I so negative? Because we are slow and arduous in the transfer window every year, and every year Marco says the same frustrated thing that he'd like transfers in sooner. He's also only got one year left in his contract, if he was happy about it and wasn't frustrated he'd have signed a new contract a while ago.

And of late, every year around this convo we've actually ended up starting perfectly well, Last year, same comments all summer - first signing was July 26th (Sess who still didn't play till way into the season) and we were 6th at one point in first half of the season, in fact the issues have generally come at the end of the season rather than the start. People said the same about SIlva extending last time, and he did, and he was backed with some big money signings of players he apparently pushed hard for (ESR being one of the main ones)

Brighton have lost half their squad. Listen, it's definitely a strong start to fixtures this year, but we have a settled squad that hasn't lost any of it's main players and have shown they can compete with the best of them when fit as it is. Yes it needs strenghtening, and strengthen we will. His comments hardly seem like he's livid and kicking off.

It can all be true that we start okay, do late transfers and have our manager frustrated as hell. But the question is does he want to continually be frustrated EVERY SINGLE summer because our transfer negotiation team is the slowest in the entire league?


Angus Telford

#3072
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 10:48:38 AMBecause we are slow and arduous in the transfer window every year, and every year Marco says the same frustrated thing that he'd like transfers in sooner. He's also only got one year left in his contract, if he was happy about it and wasn't frustrated he'd have signed a new contract a while ago.

Why is it that other clubs similar to us like Brighton can have their transfers in early and make a success of them but not us?

Great nutshell summary.

The most vexatious aspect for me is that after two flat years, this was supposed to be a significant, ambitious, well-funded window where we improve and rejuvenate.

Instead we're approaching our slowest ever start (2 days away) and most links are still to relatively uninspiring domestic players aged 25 or older.

jayffc

Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: jayffc on July 24, 2025, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2025, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on July 24, 2025, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: IloveFFC on July 24, 2025, 09:43:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299691340227012

https://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1948299814321426782

I honestly can't see him agreeing to renew his contract with us if signings in the summer continue to be so slow and difficult while our rivals are speeding ahead and I don't blame him.

What? Why so negative?

I read what Silva said completely differently.

What I think Silva acknowledges is that yes we haven't signed anyone, and he'd like to, but he's acknowledging that the club and himself are working hard, which to me implies a lot of effort to achieve what he wants to see done and an acknowledgement the effort is there, to get the right players in.

Silva also seems to acknowledge that he's not alone in wanting all new players in and suggesting that it's more a part of management then anything particularly frustrating to him individually.

There's a significant difference is putting in no effort, being lazy and ineffective, vs putting in a lot of effort and moving things forward for ambitious targets.

Now, the only slightly ambiguous term for me is that we have a lot of business to do in this market.. does he mean we have a lot of players to bring in? I have a striker, one winger, a backup gk and a goalscoring central midfielder.. which is 4 and not a lot of business.

So maybe another winger, a LB?

6 players though isn't necessarily a lot of business though.

Why am I so negative? Because we are slow and arduous in the transfer window every year, and every year Marco says the same frustrated thing that he'd like transfers in sooner. He's also only got one year left in his contract, if he was happy about it and wasn't frustrated he'd have signed a new contract a while ago.

And of late, every year around this convo we've actually ended up starting perfectly well, Last year, same comments all summer - first signing was July 26th (Sess who still didn't play till way into the season) and we were 6th at one point in first half of the season, in fact the issues have generally come at the end of the season rather than the start. People said the same about SIlva extending last time, and he did, and he was backed with some big money signings of players he apparently pushed hard for (ESR being one of the main ones)

Brighton have lost half their squad. Listen, it's definitely a strong start to fixtures this year, but we have a settled squad that hasn't lost any of it's main players and have shown they can compete with the best of them when fit as it is. Yes it needs strenghtening, and strengthen we will. His comments hardly seem like he's livid and kicking off.

It can all be true that we start okay, do late transfers and have our manager frustrated as hell. But the question is does he want to continually be frustrated EVERY SINGLE summer because our transfer negotiation team is the slowest in the entire league?

I'd imagine it wouldn't stop him from re-signing IF ultimately we do back him with quality signings high up on his list of targets that allow us to perform well in the league. Again we didn't miss Europe last year because of summer signing timings. I'm sure in the meantime he'll feel some frustration, But when we make signings like ESR at club record transfer fees on his advice early/mid camp it's not like we aren't giving him tools he wants to work with.




jayffc

#3076
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 24, 2025, 12:04:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/fulhamfc/status/1948338182443208793

YES!! Glad to hear it! Another important statement for our academy kids.

 "Signing here for a lengthy period shows that Fulham produce young players and allow them to have the opportunity here, so I think it's the best place to be for my development."

Straight out of the propaganda handbook but ultimately it is the message we've wanted for our academy.

Talented kid this one and hope the likes of Ridgeon, Godo and Luc get some great loan spells and then can push on from there.

Tabby

Happy that he signed a new contract, thought he'd be gone when Liverpool came knocking. A lot of young talent in the centre of midfield recently.


Count Flapula

Quote from: Coastwalker on July 24, 2025, 11:13:49 AMMarco looked a tad frustrated to me.🤔

How can you tell? Marco's always had "resting tad frustrated face" ;)

Count Flapula

Quote from: Deeping_white on July 24, 2025, 12:04:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/fulhamfc/status/1948338182443208793

Great news, although I think they are playing a bit fast and loose with the phrase "long term future" as (delighted to be corrected if I'm wrong) the max we can offer 16 year olds is a 2 year deal.

Great news nonetheless. I'm not one for YouTube montages but you can see this kid has really got something. So dynamic and great vision.