Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

[Angus Telford]

The spend timing is surely less important than the sale as the spend gets amortised usually over 5 years. 

That's a valid point. Actually I dont know exactly how it works but it seems unlikely that if we bought a player on say 29 June, we could then write down their value at year end (one day later, 30 June) as if their contract had gotten a year shorter. Either way, it still means buying before 30 June has little or no benefit, unless as i said you had an exceptional surplus in the season three years ago that will now fall out of the reporting period.

And of course, as I've said before, I still cannot accept we as a club spend up to the FFP limits these days anyway, so IMO none of this is even relevant to us.

[Thailand Mick]

The spend timing is surely less important than the sale as the spend gets amortised usually over 5 years. So we buy a £25m player it £5m a year going into 5 years worth of accounts. Unless very close to the limit not much impact either way if before idle after the 30th of June...if after will last one more year on the books of course so prob a slight advantage to do before if you have the room to free up funds slightly in 5 years. The spread over a longer period makes it less of an impact.

Sale however only counts for 3 years on the books and all of it counts immediately. Makes logical sense that unless a club needs to sell to stay within FFP limits before the 30th they will want to wait until after the 30th as will then count for the next 3 year period. If selling now would only be 2 years counted after the 30th so a big advantage to delay that so it stays on the books as long as possible to help in future windows. For example if we had sold Mitro before the 30th that summer tgat incoming would have expired so we couldn't use it this summer. As after the 30th the incoming can still be used this year.

If correct probably quite hard to buy before the 30th then because the selling club will want to delay it. From what I have seen quite a few deals seem to have been put in place but only to go through 01/07 prob for this reason. Not sure if correct but that is my take on it trying to think logically.

you make a good point on the amortisation which now makes me think we were very close to the 105m limit, maybe we had already reach 100m so we could spend 20m Amoritised over 5 years that would add 4m to the psr.Buying before the June 30th deadline would indeed allow us to spend 20m more a year earlier at the end of the Amortisation period. Yes it is looking ahead but a 20m pound player at that time could be very important.

[The Rational Fan]

The spend timing is surely less important than the sale as the spend gets amortised usually over 5 years. 

That's a valid point. Actually I think unlikely that if we bought a player on say 29 June, we could then write down their value at year end (one day later, 30 June) as if their contract had got a year shorter. Either way, means buying before 30 June has little or no benefit, unless as i said you had an exceptional surplus in the season three years ago that will n
now fall out of the reporting period.

And of course, as I've said before, I still cannot accept we as a club spend up to the FFP limits these days anyway, so IMO none of this is even relevant to us.

Despite what you think. Fulham are spending over the FFP limits by £12,068,000 from July 2021 to June 2024 and only coming within FFP limits with the allowances for our academy, and some other deductions. Fulham documents registered at Government House are legal binding so the only ones we can trust.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03374347/filing-history

[Angus Telford]

The spend timing is surely less important than the sale as the spend gets amortised usually over 5 years. So we buy a £25m player it £5m a year going into 5 years worth of accounts. Unless very close to the limit not much impact either way if before idle after the 30th of June...if after will last one more year on the books of course so prob a slight advantage to do before if you have the room to free up funds slightly in 5 years. The spread over a longer period makes it less of an impact.

Sale however only counts for 3 years on the books and all of it counts immediately. Makes logical sense that unless a club needs to sell to stay within FFP limits before the 30th they will want to wait until after the 30th as will then count for the next 3 year period. If selling now would only be 2 years counted after the 30th so a big advantage to delay that so it stays on the books as long as possible to help in future windows. For example if we had sold Mitro before the 30th that summer tgat incoming would have expired so we couldn't use it this summer. As after the 30th the incoming can still be used this year.

If correct probably quite hard to buy before the 30th then because the selling club will want to delay it. From what I have seen quite a few deals seem to have been put in place but only to go through 01/07 prob for this reason. Not sure if correct but that is my take on it trying to think logically.

you make a good point on the amortisation which now makes me think we were very close to the 105m limit, maybe we had already reach 100m so we could spend 20m Amoritised over 5 years that would add 4m to the psr.Buying before the June 30th deadline would indeed allow us to spend 20m more a year earlier at the end of the Amortisation period. Yes it is looking ahead but a 20m pound player at that time could be very important.

So rushing a major purchase now, just so that we can buy another player in 2029 rather than 2030.
I can think of other priorities to be honest.

[AJW48361]

41 wasted pages keeps Transfers to Transfers.Separate section for FFC Buisness  and Finance etc Appreciate the wealth of Knowledge FFC Supporters have Regarding the Running of our Club keep it up.

[SuffolkWhite]

On the subject of FFC finances, I hope the club keep the £3 pints to help my budget!

[iansthailand]

On the subject of FFC finances, I hope the club keep the £3 pints to help my budget!

It would help even more if you didn't drink at all mate. Just a thought!

[RAY Rock]

Everyone else is strapped for cash by PSR but the top 4 can do what they want sell hotels to themselves sell the women's team for 200 million to themselves . Spend 350 million in 6 months

[Snibbo]

Everyone else is strapped for cash by PSR but the top 4 can do what they want sell hotels to themselves sell the women's team for 200 million to themselves . Spend 350 million in 6 months

It is incredible how the likes of City and Ch÷*&ki seem to be able to spend limitless amounts of money.

[hovewhite]

A system that Keeps teams like us in our place and works for the top 5 or 6 teams.

[Bronaldinho]

A system that Keeps teams like us in our place and works for the top 5 or 6 teams.

Yup.

FFP is a construct to prevent someone coming in and bankrolling a smaller one to compete. Extended subs to then give bigger clubs an advantages as they can financially have more stars. Then VAR in the laughable form it is in at the moment, has bias towards bigger clubs, and not enough angles to even support an informed decision.

Club World Cup - select clubs only, and a 1bn prize pool to further benefit big clubs.

Sadly, our sport is becoming worse, and commercialisation is pushing real fans away.

[demeant0r]

A system that Keeps teams like us in our place and works for the top 5 or 6 teams.

Yup.

FFP is a construct to prevent someone coming in and bankrolling a smaller one to compete. Extended subs to then give bigger clubs an advantages as they can financially have more stars. Then VAR in the laughable form it is in at the moment, has bias towards bigger clubs, and not enough angles to even support an informed decision.

Club World Cup - select clubs only, and a 1bn prize pool to further benefit big clubs.

Sadly, our sport is becoming worse, and commercialisation is pushing real fans away.

Isn't FFP meant to be so that clubs don't spend until it's bankrupt and then the owner abandons it? To be fair most football clubs are so in debt that it's amazing they're allowed to keep operating with so much debt.

[Deeping_white]

https://twitter.com/fulhamtransfer/status/1934539346499219482

[Tabby]

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-continue-to-be-linked-with-brazilian-forward-but-face-new-competition/#

Still getting linked with Romulo. Seems that the strikers we've been linked with are of the "younger with potential that can play other positions as well" variety.

[SerbianLad]

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-continue-to-be-linked-with-brazilian-forward-but-face-new-competition/#

Still getting linked with Romulo. Seems that the strikers we've been linked with are of the "younger with potential that can play other positions as well" variety.

And that's exactly what we need now that Raul has extended his contract. There's no need to get a big name striker with both Raul and Muniz still here.

[RAY Rock]

What if

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-continue-to-be-linked-with-brazilian-forward-but-face-new-competition/#

Still getting linked with Romulo. Seems that the strikers we've been linked with are of the "younger with potential that can play other positions as well" variety.

And that's exactly what we need now that Raul has extended his contract. There's no need to get a big name striker with both Raul and Muniz still here.

what if they both get injured we need a quality striker that is quick and can run in behind

[jayffc]

What if

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-continue-to-be-linked-with-brazilian-forward-but-face-new-competition/#

Still getting linked with Romulo. Seems that the strikers we've been linked with are of the "younger with potential that can play other positions as well" variety.

And that's exactly what we need now that Raul has extended his contract. There's no need to get a big name striker with both Raul and Muniz still here.

what if they both get injured we need a quality striker that is quick and can run in behind

He's not saying don't get a 3rd option?
He's saying no need to spend big on the position with 2 good strikers already available.

What happens if 90% of clubs in the prem lose their first 2 striking options to injury at the same time? Most would obviously take a significant hit in terms of quality

Thread said we're still linked to strikers, just that from those linked it seems not with ones that are major outlays at the moment but more players with promise that maybe aren't quite the finished article yet - and fair enough.

[Tabby]

What if

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-continue-to-be-linked-with-brazilian-forward-but-face-new-competition/#

Still getting linked with Romulo. Seems that the strikers we've been linked with are of the "younger with potential that can play other positions as well" variety.

And that's exactly what we need now that Raul has extended his contract. There's no need to get a big name striker with both Raul and Muniz still here.

what if they both get injured we need a quality striker that is quick and can run in behind

What if we get a third striker for £80 million and all three get injured?

[alfie]

What if

http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-continue-to-be-linked-with-brazilian-forward-but-face-new-competition/#

Still getting linked with Romulo. Seems that the strikers we've been linked with are of the "younger with potential that can play other positions as well" variety.

And that's exactly what we need now that Raul has extended his contract. There's no need to get a big name striker with both Raul and Muniz still here.

what if they both get injured we need a quality striker that is quick and can run in behind

He's not saying don't get a 3rd option?
He's saying no need to spend big on the position with 2 good strikers already available.

What happens if 90% of clubs in the prem lose their first 2 striking options to injury at the same time? Most would obviously take a significant hit in terms of quality

Thread said were still linked to strikers, just that from those linked it seems not with ones that are major outlays at the moment but more players with promise that maybe aren't quite the finished article yet - and fair enough.

That's exactly what happened to Arsenal.

[gang]

On the subject of FFC finances, I hope the club keep the £3 pints to help my budget!

It would help even more if you didn't drink at all mate. Just a thought!