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That's not a flattering lineup :023:
COYW! We have a favorable October schedule- today being one of the hardest matches. Team is hurt, but time to dig deep and get a result anyway. Prove we belong in the Premiership. Perhaps even start to show that we belong in the top half.
Come on Fulham
This lineup and the subs are so uninspiring, but these players and this team need to show their worth, and that they are more than a few names. A draw is acceptable, and if we "are Premier League", our subs should** be will drilled enough for a result here under MS.
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Chalob....aaaaarrrggghhhhh
Get in there Fulham
Nice Leno
This isn't looking good for us at all, lads. Chaloba needs to be off already.
Might as well send him off hes useless
Should be red.
sloppy...
I am going to turn this off. Chalobah is such a donkey. He needs to be released. He is so useless. This is all MS's mistake playing him.
Chalobah has made an impression, not the sort we wanted though. Waste of space!
Great start idiot.
Idiot...
What a way to throw away 3 points at home. Utter donkey. Needs to find a contract elsewhere.
Chalobah shouldn't be anywhere near the first team squad after the Crawley match alone, but to be picked and then do that after five minutes is criminal. Sh*t for brains
Hopefully thats the last time we see that clown
WHY did MS even thnk he's worth playing? What does he bring to the team? Nothing. He is actual trash as a player.
What a loving idiot.
Just cannot believe he selected Chalobah. Thrown the game away for us 5 mins in FFS
Have a player out for five yellows in seven games and you think - that's a lot of yellows.. then chalobah comes on and says 'hold my beer' and gets a red card within 8 minutes of getting his first start of the season. What a useless player.
Stupid play
We can blame Chalobah all day, but him even being on the first team is Marco's call and Marco's fault. We all knew Chalobah was poo, we didn't need this showing to know he belongs in the National League.
Never a red
Love SIlva, but anything other than accepting he made the biggest error of his Fulham tenure pursuing in giving Chalo game time is unacceptable. Utter criminal. What a waste.
Such a silly tackle. He's not good enough at this level
At least he won't be available for 3 games.
The man is an utter prat. Don't sell him, just give him away.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:11:04 PM
Love SIlva, but anything other than accepting he made the biggest error of his Fulham tenure pursuing in giving Chalo game time is unacceptable. Utter criminal. What a waste.
This was a real blunder. He may have been drinking the other night.
Perfect...
We might lose 9-0
That's That then...
\I'm not one for overreactions, but that is such a kick in the teeth to supporters. The line-up and the insistence to play such a complete charlatan. He simply has to go and just release him. He's woeful.
Just great
We all knew that Chalobah would be sent off with Mike Dean as VAR. He cannot go a match without red carding someone. I think he reds family members just because.
Then again, place appropriate blame on Mbabu: two touches, two give aways, and almost his own yellow-red - including the foul that led to that free kick. Was there not a lame mule to start at right back today?
Oh well, waited 2 weeks for this!
I'm turning it off. Have a good evening guys
Marco, for the first time, I've doubted your decision making. ANYONE who saw Chalobah in that line up KNEW he'd be an idiot and lose us the game. How did you not know already being with him every day.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 01, 2022, 03:12:56 PM
That's That then...
Think I will go back to my golf club and play another 9 holes.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on October 01, 2022, 03:14:14 PM
Marco, for the first time, I've doubted your decision making. ANYONE who saw Chalobah in that line up KNEW he'd be an idiot and lose us the game. How did you not know already being with him every day.
It really is one of those occasions where its so blatantly obvious that unless he's making a statement that we should of signed someone in the window, I don't know what he's doing. So frickin obvious.
It was a red card. He's not good enough at this level and was average in the Championship.
Mbabu is another who isn't good enough
I should have stayed in bed...
Game gone. Damage limitation now the order of the day. Use it as a practice match for the new guys.
That was a red imo. Thankfully Chalobah won't be playing for 3 games at least!
Guy needs to be got rid off. Total waste of a player for us. Lost us this game now
WTF was Kurazawa doing on that play? He had 10 minutes to get off that cross.
Mbabu showing his ability to defend as well for that goal. Well behind is commanding centre halfs.
All that hard work this season and then this one stupid act puts the whole team under the cosh.
At the 15' mark: Mbabu has four possessions and four lost possessions. Super. Nothing like playing with 10 men again...woops, 9 men.
Waiting to happem
Mind a few weeks ago when people were calling for Mbabu over Tete hahahaa
It's a red all day long. No question. Amazing we are even suggesting its the ref's here.
Liverpool 0 Brighton 2.
A point would be a miracle if we could somehow shithouse it. More realistically, I'd be happy if we just keep the score respectable. What a waste of a game.
Talk to you all later, this is just abysmal. Thanks Chalobah for ruining it for everyone, AGAIN.
COYW!!!!
I expect the players to give their all, and battle to get back in this game.
Repeat Never a red. Stephen Warnock Final Score agrees .Bad decision
Mitro needs to keep his head and play for the team. He has a job to do and we don't need him getting sent out off.
Quote from: ffcne on October 01, 2022, 03:20:03 PM
Repeat Never a red. Stephen Warnock Final Score agrees .Bad decision
Hard disagree. It's a red all day long for me. Warnock loves a tackle so not surprised he's saying that.
Okay, yeah, it was a red - but a) it was not a red on the field, b) it took a long time and Mike Dean's trigger to make it a red, and c) Longstaff got up 8 seconds after being shot. Just saying: Mike Dean's 'input' never helps because he cannot have any dealings in a match that finishes with full squads on the field.
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
You already have the red, stop flopping...
Only silver lining is that we won't have to suffer Chalobah for some time. He must be the worst player at CC since Kamara left.
We have to make sure we do not go 2 down, while it is only one we stand a chance.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
Sorry buddy but I disagree. The majority of the board completely changed tune when he was announced in the lineup. Obviously he didn't expect him to get sent off after 5, but if he thought he'd have a positive impact on this match, he's sadly deluding himself. Love Silva, but this is firmly on him. Chaloboah shouldn't be on a premier league pitch. He wasn't up to it in championship, let alone the prem and he's just, again, firmly demonstrated he needs clearing off the wage bill. BUT Silva should see this clearly. Its that obvious.
Haven't seen it, but seems harsh so early in the game, when the player wasn't hurt -if it wasn't for VAR.....
Come on Fulham , don't let your heads drop -still all to play for.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
I cannot recall a singular moment where Chalobah has done anything for us. The decision to play him at all is where MS takes the blame, and the ridiculous tackle proves it. One would think after the performance against Crawley that the point was made, but if this is what it takes...
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
Every single fulham fan on earth can see that Chalobah is a terrible, awful, waster of a player. When the team was announced we collectively went... Chalobah... thats a loss. So why should the man paid to pick the team escape the blame when literally all us amateurs can see it coming a mile off
Silly tackle yes, but that was never a red. Both went for the ball in a similar way, Newcastle man got there faster. It was very low on the leg, almost on the foot, the foul lacked intensity as well.
It could get worse we might bring Onomah on, can't wait!
Quote from: rusty shackleford on October 01, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
Every single fulham fan on earth can see that Chalobah is a terrible, awful, waster of a player. When the team was announced we collectively went... Chalobah... thats a loss. So why should the man paid to pick the team escape the blame when literally all us amateurs can see it coming a mile off
Exactly.
Don't be too quick to write this game off. Plenty of time to get something out of this
Amen and my point: this early in the match, if Dean is not involved, we would have been 'fortunate'...at least long enough to sub Chalobah out for an inflatable doll or bowl of cereal.
Quote from: SerbianLad on October 01, 2022, 03:29:19 PM
Silly tackle yes, but that was never a red. Both went for the ball in a similar way, Newcastle man got there faster. It was very low on the leg, almost on the foot, the foul lacked intensity as well.
It was a red. Late and studs stamping down onto the foot. Needless and incredibly stupid.
Total over reaction for the Marco criticism. Nobody would have selected Ream at left back against Forest but he performed brilliantly. Sometimes these gambles work sometimes they don't. That's football.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on October 01, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
Every single fulham fan on earth can see that Chalobah is a terrible, awful, waster of a player. When the team was announced we collectively went... Chalobah... thats a loss. So why should the man paid to pick the team escape the blame when literally all us amateurs can see it coming a mile off
Yep. If people were suggesting this makes Silva a bad manager, I'd have a bit more sympathy for his argument, but its just saying he's treated this game as an experiment really and using Chaloboah is so ridiculous that even though the guy has done little to nothing since joining, and continually looked poor, he's not cost us a game after being on the field for 5 mins in his first start and people still don't think this was a bad decision somehow.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on October 01, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
I cannot recall a singular moment where Chalobah has done anything for us. The decision to play him at all is where MS takes the blame, and the ridiculous tackle proves it. One would think after the performance against Crawley that the point was made, but if this is what it takes...
The tackle proves that Chalobah made a bad decision. I also cannot recall Chalobah doing much good for us, if any. But, he has quite a lot of PL experience, and Silva sees him every day in training. I also cannot recall him costing as games really, and he was not the only one in our midfield looking bang average in the Championship last season. There's no reasonable level to the criticism in my opinion.
Can't believe we're losing to this lot.
Quote from: Palhinha Colada on October 01, 2022, 03:30:40 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on October 01, 2022, 03:29:19 PM
Silly tackle yes, but that was never a red. Both went for the ball in a similar way, Newcastle man got there faster. It was very low on the leg, almost on the foot, the foul lacked intensity as well.
It was a red. Late and studs stamping down onto the foot. Needless and incredibly stupid.
Strong disagree, but I respect your opinion.
Quote from: Atherton on October 01, 2022, 03:31:30 PM
Total over reaction for the Marco criticism. Nobody would have selected Ream at left back against Forest but he performed brilliantly. Sometimes these gambles work sometimes they don't. That's football.
Awful comparison. Ream, arguably our best player last season, performing ridiculously well this season, marking a player he should know fairly well, compared to Chalo, a man who has done next to nothing positive in a fulham shirt. Sure he gambled, but it was a dreadful bet to put money on.
Great goal by Almiron, that was class.
lazy...
2-0
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:32:20 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on October 01, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
I cannot recall a singular moment where Chalobah has done anything for us. The decision to play him at all is where MS takes the blame, and the ridiculous tackle proves it. One would think after the performance against Crawley that the point was made, but if this is what it takes...
The tackle proves that Chalobah made a bad decision. I also cannot recall Chalobah doing much good for us, if any. But, he has quite a lot of PL experience, and Silva sees him every day in training. I also cannot recall him costing as games really, and he was not the only one in our midfield looking bang average in the Championship last season. There's no reasonable level to the criticism in my opinion.
There is and as others have laid out, you're simply wrong on this occasion. Poor decision with evidence acted out on the pitch today.
With an early yellow against him, Mitro is unlikely to be able to play his usual game so maybe he should be sheltered and told not to try too hard today. Much as I'd like to think we can stay in this game, I don't really believe it. Defeatist? Maybe, but look at Newcastle's defensive record and tell me there's a REAL chance. It's important that he is available for the winnable games to come soon, but probably too early to sub him as we'll need all the fresh legs we can get later in the game.
Great goal,cant do nothing about that.
Let's not get slaughtered here I hope.
I'm wearing a Fulham shirt I never wear a Fulham shirt. I take full responsibility for this sh!t show.
Mitro injured.
Fantastic.
love international football
Defo red, thats what VAR is for the error by the onfield ref, and i hate VAR but it was the right use this time
Might as well write this game off and bring on 5 substitutes and rest our better players for next week.
get Mitro out of there
Mitro off, what next??
If this is the game needed to have Chalobah released permanently and never again step foot at the Cottage, so be it.
Wasn't there really anything Leno could do about that?
An acrobatic goalie could, at least, try and launch himself instead of waving at the ball.
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
There is only one person to blame and it's not Mike Dean.
Marco for starting Chalobah?...(and Mbabu)...
Alas, this looks like a four or five nil.
I blame Palhinha!!
When it rains it pours. Honestly, love football sometimes.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd hear it. DM me if you'd rather. But I don't see any reasonable argument for how a manager picking a player like he has today, and that player being sent off after 5 minutes, isn't to some extent, his fault as well as the pleb who was sent off for a stupid tackle.
Should have kept Loftus-Cheek (lol)
If our Portuguese wonder player had not got himself stupidly booked by jumping in with the supporters, we would not have been in this position.
Quote from: nwg on October 01, 2022, 03:39:07 PM
Marco for starting Chalobah?...(and Mbabu)...
Yes, It is Marco's fault. Chalobah did what we knew he would do, and always does, f*ck it all up.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on October 01, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:23:09 PM
Rarely have I seen this amount of overreactions on here, as I do towards Silva today. I am sure Silva didn't think Chalobah would take a red card after 5 minutes. It is not like he usually does that.
Chalobah deserves the blame fully. Whether he could have otherwise contributed we will never know of course.
Every single fulham fan on earth can see that Chalobah is a terrible, awful, waster of a player. When the team was announced we collectively went... Chalobah... thats a loss. So why should the man paid to pick the team escape the blame when literally all us amateurs can see it coming a mile off
Agree, and I have said all along Chalobah is terrible when people were suggesting he steps in for Palinha. Obviously play Cairney and Reed in the middle. Love Silva but he got that badly wrong today
Days Like This Sometimes Happen.
I know I'm stating the obvious, but Chalobah set the tone for the game with a needless tackle and everything has gone downhill from there. This game is over. Hopefully Mitro and Tete will be ready for our next game, otherwise we're in big trouble I fear.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Throw in a white towel!
UUUUUUgly
Can see this being a 6-0
BullSh!t
This is turning into a training exercise. They've given up, and it's not just the fact that we aren't going to get points today, it's going to hurt our goal difference which could prove the difference come the end of the season
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 01, 2022, 03:43:03 PM
Days Like This Sometimes Happen.
True but it needn't have been like this on this occasion
Will we have 11 fit players available for our next game?
Dropping like flies.
3-0 anyone still watching/interested?
Looks like we're down to 8 men.
Shocking lack of commitment from the 10 men, just given up.
Pathetic today. And totally predictable unfortunately when the team was announced. Shows we have an excellent first XI and then a whole lotta nothing. Even still the decision to play Chalobah is criminal. He is up there with the worst Ive ever seen. Tom Cairney sitting on the bench too like. Threw away the game.
Yeah, right. If I watched the replay of myself not even bothering to respond to another of Leno's saves, I would be 'injured', too.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 01, 2022, 03:43:03 PM
Days Like This Sometimes Happen.
Best to get it all out in one go.
Sadly, I think that Chalobah is not half the player he once was...
Hopefully the Khan's realise how thin the squad is and provide some further funds in Jan.
We have to play for pride and keep the score respectable.
We have to keep our shape, it's damage limitation and fight to the last man for morale.
I would like BDR to play right back in the next game if Tete is still out
Let's be thankful that 2 of their best players are out for this one. Bloody hell.
Hope the Mrs has hidden the Gordons, what a pathetic afternoon!
Well I feel like **** with a virus and Chalobah has made the day even worse. Idiot.
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Further funds?...not necessary. With a match in-hand, we were rocking top 10 with largely 'our' squad plus Andres and Joao.
Instead, learn from Scotty P.'s signings disasters and dance with the girls that bring ya.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
Cairney's never fully fit - one of his legs is unusable! 😇
If Chalobah has any sense he would have packed his bag and left. He isn't anywhere near to being good enough but at least he would have been a body on the pitch.
It was a red you can blame the ref, Challobah is an idiot
Quote from: nwg on October 01, 2022, 03:52:01 PM
Further funds?...not necessary. With a match in-hand, we were rocking top 10 with largely 'our' squad plus Andres and Joao.
Instead, learn from Scotty P.'s signings disasters and dance with the girls that bring ya.
We need another midfielder, it's clearly necessary. If we get 1 injury to our midfield and then we'll be in the exactly same position as we are today
Does make you wonder why Cairney stays at Fulham if he doesn't start in this side. One of my all time favourite players but to have Chalobah played ahead of him must feel like a kick in the face.
Comeback of the season on cards 3-3.
🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Hopefully Palhinha is watching this and thinking.... you know what... the next time I score a belter I might not stupidly run into the crowd and get a needless yellow when I'm one away from a ban
He would want to be injured, considering the way he is jogging around the pitch whilst his teammates are running. Absolutely fuming atm :031:
Have we even had a shot or been remotely near their goal?
Couldn't find a working stream but sounds like a dodged a bullet. We all knew Chalobah wasn't good enough, I just hope there's a suitable replacement available on a free and Marco is willing to admit he made a mistake and rectify it.
As for Mbabu it's a very poor start but has time to improve, whereas Chalobah hasn't impressed having had a full season in an inderior league.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 01, 2022, 03:55:07 PM
Comeback of the season on cards 3-3.
🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
LOL - Gallows humour!
If the answer was Chalobah, then Silva simply didn't understand the question. The player has no merit, and costs the team whenever he is included. I'm disappointed and appalled at what's happened today.
I don't rate Chalobah, never have but he's a professional so with a bit of pride and footballing intelligence should have been able to do a job today.
But instead made himself look stupid and let everyone down.
Nothing to do with Mike Dean whatsoever. It was a dumb challenge by a guy who is clearly out of his depth.
Quote from: nwg on October 01, 2022, 03:52:01 PM
Further funds?...not necessary. With a match in-hand, we were rocking top 10 with largely 'our' squad plus Andres and Joao.
Instead, learn from Scotty P.'s signings disasters and dance with the girls that bring ya.
The point is that with just a couple of injuries/suspensions and we're on the end of a spanking.
Whilst we've started the season v well, we lack depth in a few areas, and that's what I think needs to be addressed in Jan.
May as well just stay in the sheds.
Chalobah is dreadful.
The rest of the team lack intensity as well. Plenty of half hearted jogs after the ball. Second to everything
Really have to dig in this half and, at least draw the half.
They have no reason to push for more goals, but if we capitulate they will bag a few more.
A trouncing could destroy the confidence we've built up and plunge us backwards.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 01, 2022, 03:55:04 PM
Does make you wonder why Cairney stays at Fulham if he doesn't start in this side. One of my all time favourite players but to have Chalobah played ahead of him must feel like a kick in the face.
Cairney is no longer a 90 minute player.
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 01, 2022, 03:55:04 PM
Does make you wonder why Cairney stays at Fulham if he doesn't start in this side. One of my all time favourite players but to have Chalobah played ahead of him must feel like a kick in the face.
I guess money. Probably a decent contract he won't get elsewhere. Can't imagine a PL team wanting him so would drop down a level.
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Come on Fulham, I want to see us fight in the second half and hopefully get one back to help our goal difference. Not expecting anything from the game just want to see some fight
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
Cairney's never fully fit - one of his legs is unusable! 😇
One more leg usable Than Chalo's then...... :005:
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Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
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Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
I'd argue Reed is more a like for like replacement Palinha than Chalo is. He's literally been our starting DM in the Prem previously.
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Quote from: simplyfulham on October 01, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
I'd argue Reed is more a like for like replacement Palinha than Chalo is. He's literally been our starting DM in the Prem previously.
Yeah but you can't pick him twice.
Unless he has a twin.
Quote from: Rj Fulham on October 01, 2022, 03:58:06 PM
He would want to be injured, considering the way he is jogging around the pitch whilst his teammates are running. Absolutely fuming atm :031:
This is what was said about him before he came. He seems to be a bit of a clown.
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Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
I'd argue Reed is more a like for like replacement Palinha than Chalo is. He's literally been our starting DM in the Prem previously.
Yeah but you can't pick him twice.
Unless he has a twin.
Sure, but thats why Pereria, an incredible hard working, press player, can then do Reed's role and Ciarney slot in on Pererias role. An infinitely better option than relying on Chalo. I made a post about this already though, it was the one big issue I had with out transfer window and I think we're seeing it now. An injury to any of our starting 3 midfielders, and we'll drop down this table and quickly.
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Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
Cairney's never fully fit - one of his legs is unusable! 😇
One more leg usable Than Chalo's then...... :005:
Can't argue with that!
And now it's 4
All the tourists are leaving.
4-0 😥
Yes it's damage limitation and we have to fight to the last man.
Have we ever had a match where we haven't even had an effort on goal?
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Quote from: simplyfulham on October 01, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
I'd argue Reed is more a like for like replacement Palinha than Chalo is. He's literally been our starting DM in the Prem previously.
Yeah but you can't pick him twice.
Unless he has a twin.
Sure, but thats why Pereria, an incredible hard working, press player, can then do Reed's role and Ciarney slot in on Pererias role. An infinitely better option than relying on Chalo. I made a post about this already though, it was the one big issue I had with out transfer window and I think we're seeing it now. An injury to any of our starting 3 midfielders, and we'll drop down this table and quickly.
It's not really a direct replacement if you're talking about making 3 changes.
I don't think what your saying is unreasonable but TC can't do the same role as Periera, he's not mobile enough to press like he does.
And I'm not sure Pereira can do Reed's role as well Reed can so then you're taking about making concessions in that role as well.
It's not all down to the sending off.
Teams get draws and win with 10 men,don't think Marco
has been able to work out how to contain them.
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Quote from: simplyfulham on October 01, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
I'd argue Reed is more a like for like replacement Palinha than Chalo is. He's literally been our starting DM in the Prem previously.
Yeah but you can't pick him twice.
Unless he has a twin.
Sure, but thats why Pereria, an incredible hard working, press player, can then do Reed's role and Ciarney slot in on Pererias role. An infinitely better option than relying on Chalo. I made a post about this already though, it was the one big issue I had with out transfer window and I think we're seeing it now. An injury to any of our starting 3 midfielders, and we'll drop down this table and quickly.
It's not really a direct replacement if you're talking about making 3 changes.
I don't think what your saying is unreasonable but TC can't do the same role as Periera, he's not mobile enough to press like he does.
And I'm not sure Pereira can do Reed's role as well Reed can so then you're taking about making concessions in that role as well.
Of course we make concessions, we're trying to replace one of our most important players, but doing that with Chalo, as demonstrated, is the worst of the options available.
IMO
Should of started today
not sure what he has too do to get a start then Marco finally puts him on at 3-0 down, not sure what that does for his confidence but he's the only player on the pitch that looks like can make something happen, it would of been a different story if he'd of started today in front of Perierra who should of dropped back into Reeds role and Reed dropped back into Jao's role
ffs..
Blow the whistle.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 01, 2022, 04:26:46 PM
It's not all down to the sending off.
Teams get draws and win with 10 men,don't think Marco
has been able to work out how to contain them.
But not usually when it happens in the first five minutes!
Been our best player since he came on
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 01, 2022, 04:26:46 PM
It's not all down to the sending off.
Teams get draws and win with 10 men,don't think Marco
has been able to work out how to contain them.
But not usually when it happens in the first five minutes!
Yes that's true,but we haven't been able to do something since then,all over the place.
So, TC is the only one able to win a tackle, and also the only one able to find a Fulham player with a pass. No one else I can think of that comes away with much credit today. Most have been really poor, some have been horrendous.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
So, TC is the only one able to win a tackle, and also the only one able to find a Fulham player with a pass. No one else I can think of that comes away with much credit today. Most have been really poor, some have been horrendous.
Out of interest, for you, does this not highlight the initial criticism of Silva's selection again? Cairney comes on, show's his quality, clearly was fit, yet we still saw Chalo's lack of quality for the 8 minutes he played today.
I think we would have lost this one even without the sending off. Really poor game from us, and scary how reliant we are on Mitro and Palhinha.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:27:00 PM
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Quote from: simplyfulham on October 01, 2022, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:13:06 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 01, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 01, 2022, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
I maintain that the hyperbole is off the charts here from a lot of posters. I was about to try to answer but realise that no one is interested in a level headed discussion (quite understandable given the miserable day it is turning out to be). Any further discussion is obviously a waste of time.
I'd like to discuss with you Sting. How badly Is Mitro really injured? Is it better to get him off with a hope that it's not too bad rather than let him struggle on and make it worse? Did anyone see the injury?
Regarding Chalobah, I agree that his few appearances have shown us nothing to merit a place in the team, but what were Silva's options?
Reed deep, Pereria in front of him as box to box and Cairney doing his role. Feels like quite an obvious decision. Unless Ciarney isn't fully fit perhaps.
It's a fair assessment that.
But let's not pretend it's a like for like change for Palhinha. Chalobah might not be very good, but in terms of what kind of player he is, it's a more direct replacement.
We've known for a while that we are short on quality in the middle, I think you've pointed it out while the window was still open. This is just the sad ramifications of all that.
I'd argue Reed is more a like for like replacement Palinha than Chalo is. He's literally been our starting DM in the Prem previously.
Yeah but you can't pick him twice.
Unless he has a twin.
Sure, but thats why Pereria, an incredible hard working, press player, can then do Reed's role and Ciarney slot in on Pererias role. An infinitely better option than relying on Chalo. I made a post about this already though, it was the one big issue I had with out transfer window and I think we're seeing it now. An injury to any of our starting 3 midfielders, and we'll drop down this table and quickly.
It's not really a direct replacement if you're talking about making 3 changes.
I don't think what your saying is unreasonable but TC can't do the same role as Periera, he's not mobile enough to press like he does.
And I'm not sure Pereira can do Reed's role as well Reed can so then you're taking about making concessions in that role as well.
Of course we make concessions, we're trying to replace one of our most important players, but doing that with Chalo, as demonstrated, is the worst of the options available.
Yeah the choice was to play Chalobah or change most of the outfield 10.
I don't think it's a straight forward decision and I don't think it's unreasonable of MS to pick Chalobah in the circumstances. Some of the posts at the start of the game were ludicrous in calling him out.
We don't have much choice in the midfield at the moment, that's that state of it.
SF, I don't think that's necessarily true and the match speaks to that. We had a perfectly capable midfield without Chalo available which IMO, would make us much more competitive without sacrificing tactics. The players we could put in those positions, have all played there before and ultimately, negates the need to play a championship standard player in one of most important roles. Feels a no brainer to me.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
So, TC is the only one able to win a tackle, and also the only one able to find a Fulham player with a pass. No one else I can think of that comes away with much credit today. Most have been really poor, some have been horrendous.
i think the only reason he "isnt a 90 minute player anymore" is purely because he isnt being picked to start. both pereira and kebano seemingly unwilling to pass to tc a few times in the last few mins despite him being in space. i think cairney looks the best player in a white shirt atm.
Bring the kids on, not going to change the result but at least it'll be a little something positive on a overall crap day
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:39:17 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
So, TC is the only one able to win a tackle, and also the only one able to find a Fulham player with a pass. No one else I can think of that comes away with much credit today. Most have been really poor, some have been horrendous.
Out of interest, for you, does this not highlight the initial criticism of Silva's selection again? Cairney comes on, show's his quality, clearly was fit, yet we still saw Chalo's lack of quality for the 8 minutes he played today.
It's a huge difference between not agreeing with the selection on the one hand, and pretending we were doomed beforehand on the other.
Mostly, to me, it highlights how good TC is but how he doesn't really fit in to the way Silva sees his midfield playing.
To me, the biggest worry is that we see how very average Pereira and Reed are in both directions without having Palhinha covering for them. Hopefully it is just one of those days.
Comebacks on.🤣
Good game to win now.
Goal average improved!
Never waste a crisis, as they say. While one bad game doesn't make a crisis, it has made it entirely obvious to owners and management where our strengths and weaknesses lie.
Regroup, and let's not make the same decisions. I expect an absolute roasting from Ream directed at the rest of the squad.
This is a bad day amongst plenty of good ones. Don't let this turn into a rot.
Great cross from Kebano
Drawing the second half will help the confidence .
Clutching at straws a little, but every cloud.
Thank God that is over, hopefully we will give better account next week!
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:39:17 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
So, TC is the only one able to win a tackle, and also the only one able to find a Fulham player with a pass. No one else I can think of that comes away with much credit today. Most have been really poor, some have been horrendous.
Out of interest, for you, does this not highlight the initial criticism of Silva's selection again? Cairney comes on, show's his quality, clearly was fit, yet we still saw Chalo's lack of quality for the 8 minutes he played today.
It's a huge difference between not agreeing with the selection on the one hand, and pretending we were doomed beforehand on the other.
Mostly, to me, it highlights how good TC is but how he doesn't really fit in to the way Silva sees his midfield playing.
To me, the biggest worry is that we see how very average Pereira and Reed are in both directions without having Palhinha covering for them. Hopefully it is just one of those days.
I don't think that was really the criticism was it? Maybe missed some posts but for instance, my criticism was on Silva selecting Chalo over Cairney, when we have the players to make us stronger. Ie Reed DM, Perera Box to Box, Cairney AM. Feels like a pretty straight forward selection to me. Admittedly I don't see as much as Silva in terms of training, but he's never really provided anything of substance to warrant a start in the championship, let alone the Prem.
Basically, my argument settles on, the DM is a fundamentally important role to the way we play. Reed might not be as good as Palinha, but he's the most experienced, and capable to standing in. Chalo, IMO, is probably the least capable and is a championship rated midfielder. He just makes you so much weaker being in the side, let alone an important role like that. Just seems nonsensical to me hence my criticism of Silva's selection.
Glad the boys held it to 4 and even managed to get one back. It could have been even worse. Palhinha can't get back soon enough.
That seemed to go on for about three or four hours.
I completely disagree with Reed being a good DM, so in that regard can understand Silva. And there was a huge number of posts stating that they knew we would lose as soon as they saw Chalobah on the team sheet, or similar comments. Personally, would always like to see TC ahead of all our midfielders except Palhinha.
Leno was the man of the match, and Cairney was our best outfield player- he should have started today
Quote from: LC on October 01, 2022, 04:59:22 PM
Leno was the man of the match, and Cairney was our best outfield player- he should have started today
Let's not forget Cairney came on when their foot was off the gas.
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:58:38 PM
I completely disagree with Reed being a good DM, so in that regard can understand Silva. And there was a huge number of posts stating that they knew we would lose as soon as they saw Chalobah on the team sheet, or similar comments.
Good, or capable. He's a capable DM in the Prem, proven by being one of the better players who played there when we went down last time. As for predicting a loss, I changed mine to a loss after seeing the line up. My reasoning was partly based on Chalo, partly down to my belief we had another serious weakness to our important success, lack of attacking pace and strength in our fall backs compared to if Robinson and Tete were fit. Not a lot Silva could do there though. Chalo, he had options. And I'll fight to the death that Reed is a much, much better option at DM, than CHalo is. Objective fact in my book if you look at performances, stats and experience.
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Quote from: LC on October 01, 2022, 04:59:22 PM
Leno was the man of the match, and Cairney was our best outfield player- he should have started today
Let's not forget Cairney came on when their foot was off the gas.
You clearly want to criticise Cairney which I find ridiculous. This isn't the first time this season he's come on and played great
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:39:17 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 01, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
So, TC is the only one able to win a tackle, and also the only one able to find a Fulham player with a pass. No one else I can think of that comes away with much credit today. Most have been really poor, some have been horrendous.
Out of interest, for you, does this not highlight the initial criticism of Silva's selection again? Cairney comes on, show's his quality, clearly was fit, yet we still saw Chalo's lack of quality for the 8 minutes he played today.
It's a huge difference between not agreeing with the selection on the one hand, and pretending we were doomed beforehand on the other.
Mostly, to me, it highlights how good TC is but how he doesn't really fit in to the way Silva sees his midfield playing.
To me, the biggest worry is that we see how very average Pereira and Reed are in both directions without having Palhinha covering for them. Hopefully it is just one of those days.
I don't think that was really the criticism was it? Maybe missed some posts but for instance, my criticism was on Silva selecting Chalo over Cairney, when we have the players to make us stronger. Ie Reed DM, Perera Box to Box, Cairney AM. Feels like a pretty straight forward selection to me. Admittedly I don't see as much as Silva in terms of training, but he's never really provided anything of substance to warrant a start in the championship, let alone the Prem.
Basically, my argument settles on, the DM is a fundamentally important role to the way we play. Reed might not be as good as Palinha, but he's the most experienced, and capable to standing in. Chalo, IMO, is probably the least capable and is a championship rated midfielder. He just makes you so much weaker being in the side, let alone an important role like that. Just seems nonsensical to me hence my criticism of Silva's selection.
I haven't been able to watch the game, but I hope that Cairney's perfomance has been as good as you say. If he can truly play his best at this level then he will be an invaluable asset. In the past my criticisms have been that he is predictable and can be shepherded on to his weaker foot. I have also thought him weak in the tackle. I hope he has proved me wrong today. I can see your argument regarding the defensive set-up, but I suspect that Silva was concerned about a lack of height against the tall Newcastle team.
A much better second half. TC made all the difference and was either him or Harrison as MOTM. A good goal but I guilty see what Perera brings to the party. He never seems to be able to play a killer pass, if entry serves me well no goalsaand no assists.
Agree that Cairney looked very good. We miss that creativity at CAM. Pereira, despite his usefulness in other ways, just doesn't have the guile. I think Cairney should start against certain opposition.
I also liked Kebano after he came on. Supports my view that he is well-suited to be a 30min sub at this point in his career.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 01, 2022, 04:44:12 PM
SF, I don't think that's necessarily true and the match speaks to that. We had a perfectly capable midfield without Chalo available which IMO, would make us much more competitive without sacrificing tactics. The players we could put in those positions, have all played there before and ultimately, negates the need to play a championship standard player in one of most important roles. Feels a no brainer to me.
I don't really agree with that at all. I think there's a slot of hindsight going on.
But I do agree with you in the way you wanted us to set up. It's what I would have preferred too.
I just think MS choice was at least understandable and not as clear cut as you say.
Quote from: LC on October 01, 2022, 03:49:54 PM
I would like BDR to play right back in the next game if Tete is still out
You clearly were not at the game today.... BSR abysmal
