Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2024

[spikey norman]

Should we waste anymore  time chasing McTominay

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/scott-mctominay-sees-manchester-united-29627438

[jayffc]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabio-carvalho-shares-latest-liverpool-29622743


Fabio not ruling out a move away from liverpool, ultimately just wants to play consistently.
So - if it meant selling Andreas Pereira to make way- would you try and bring him back and play ESR on the left?

At first I was well up for  it but more I think about it I'm not sold on the idea 100% . Just musing on a Sunday, interested what other people would make of it.

Sess was obviously a more feelgood return having signed and got us a good fee originally, + came back on a free , Imagine some might not be so keen on young Fabio but interested to hear peoples thoughts

Ability / age wise i'd 100% take him back. Imagine the fee would be north of £20m so i'd say no solely on the principle of WE'D have effectively paid LIVERPOOL £20,000,000+ for THEM to loan him off us for 2 years and not play him.

Call me a small, petty man if you like but the above would really leave a bitter taste so i'll pass ;)

Yeh I can see that being a frustrating mental barrier. We got around 5m-£7m for him and have a 20% sell-on clause. So we'd get 20% off if that helps.

So if it were 20m it'd be effectively £16m with the 20% off. We received £5m, so minus £11m for the whole thing having not paid his wages for a few years.

Having signed Sess on a free maybe it'd be a net win? haha full mental gymnastics. Ultimately if we get a great young player there are worse deals out there. Assuming we sold Andreas for £30+ to Cheslea to make way for him we'd have probably made  around 20m in profit on Andreas. How we doing? any closer to being up for it? ha

[BestOfBrede]

Should we waste anymore  time chasing McTominay

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/scott-mctominay-sees-manchester-united-29627438

No
Get Andre done asap

[Drewry66]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabio-carvalho-shares-latest-liverpool-29622743


Fabio not ruling out a move away from liverpool, ultimately just wants to play consistently.
So - if it meant selling Andreas Pereira to make way- would you try and bring him back and play ESR on the left?

At first I was well up for  it but more I think about it I'm not sold on the idea 100% . Just musing on a Sunday, interested what other people would make of it.

Sess was obviously a more feelgood return having signed and got us a good fee originally, + came back on a free , Imagine some might not be so keen on young Fabio but interested to hear peoples thoughts

Ability / age wise i'd 100% take him back. Imagine the fee would be north of £20m so i'd say no solely on the principle of WE'D have effectively paid LIVERPOOL £20,000,000+ for THEM to loan him off us for 2 years and not play him.

Call me a small, petty man if you like but the above would really leave a bitter taste so i'll pass ;)

Yeh I can see that being a frustrating mental barrier. We got around 5m-£7m for him and have a 20% sell-on clause. So we'd get 20% off if that helps.

So if it were 20m it'd be effectively £16m with the 20% off. We received £5m, so minus £11m for the whole thing having not paid his wages for a few years.

Having signed Sess on a free maybe it'd be a net win? haha full mental gymnastics. Ultimately if we get a great young player there are worse deals out there. Assuming we sold Andreas for £30+ to Cheslea to make way for him we'd have probably made  around 20m in profit on Andreas. How we doing? any closer to being up for it? ha

I'm a big fan of AP but if we sold him for more than we'd have to buy Fabio back for I'd be all over it. Firstly Fabio is 21 and AP is 28. Secondly I think when fully developed Fabio will be a better player than AP. Thirdly Fabio will score goals. You could find both Fabio and ESR could push double figures which is massive and takes a lot of pressure off Muniz. Finally just pure sentiment of course.

Yes it would be extremely frustrating paying Liverpool say £20 million but if he reaches his potential he could be worth £50m+ in a few years so think of it that way. AP will never be worth more than he is now.

Fabio was brilliant for Hull last year and played as a striker for them once he had settled in scoring 9 goals and 1 assist in 12 games as a striker! Bear in mind we're all getting excited to see what Jay can do and he only got 12 all season. We'd buy him as a 10 of course but showed for Hull is a change up option.

Finally on the positive side he hasn't played much in the prem but when he has he has looked decent. End of the Parker relegation he looked like our best player for a few games and he was only 18. On the odd occasion he played for Liverpool still got a goal or two I believe. In the right team, playing the right position with the right manager I think he'd fly.

My only massive reservation would be losing another incredibly experienced and solid player who offers the team plenty in AP where Fabio would be more a work in progress.

I wonder what Marco would think if offered the choice?! He clearly adores AP but he did Fabio as well! Bet he'd love both but could only ever happen if AP went I think. If I were to guess I actually think his preference would be to keep AP as he seems to have limitless trust in him. If AP gets an offer and is desperate to leave id personally be all over Fabio coming back. God just imagine him, Sess and Jay smashing it. We can but dream.

[SimonDaviesEnjoyer]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabio-carvalho-shares-latest-liverpool-29622743


Fabio not ruling out a move away from liverpool, ultimately just wants to play consistently.
So - if it meant selling Andreas Pereira to make way- would you try and bring him back and play ESR on the left?

At first I was well up for  it but more I think about it I'm not sold on the idea 100% . Just musing on a Sunday, interested what other people would make of it.

Sess was obviously a more feelgood return having signed and got us a good fee originally, + came back on a free , Imagine some might not be so keen on young Fabio but interested to hear peoples thoughts

Ability / age wise i'd 100% take him back. Imagine the fee would be north of £20m so i'd say no solely on the principle of WE'D have effectively paid LIVERPOOL £20,000,000+ for THEM to loan him off us for 2 years and not play him.

Call me a small, petty man if you like but the above would really leave a bitter taste so i'll pass ;)

Yeh I can see that being a frustrating mental barrier. We got around 5m-£7m for him and have a 20% sell-on clause. So we'd get 20% off if that helps.

So if it were 20m it'd be effectively £16m with the 20% off. We received £5m, so minus £11m for the whole thing having not paid his wages for a few years.

Having signed Sess on a free maybe it'd be a net win? haha full mental gymnastics. Ultimately if we get a great young player there are worse deals out there. Assuming we sold Andreas for £30+ to Cheslea to make way for him we'd have probably made  around 20m in profit on Andreas. How we doing? any closer to being up for it? ha

I'm a big fan of AP but if we sold him for more than we'd have to buy Fabio back for I'd be all over it. Firstly Fabio is 21 and AP is 28. Secondly I think when fully developed Fabio will be a better player than AP. Thirdly Fabio will score goals. You could find both Fabio and ESR could push double figures which is massive and takes a lot of pressure off Muniz. Finally just pure sentiment of course.

Yes it would be extremely frustrating paying Liverpool say £20 million but if he reaches his potential he could be worth £50m+ in a few years so think of it that way. AP will never be worth more than he is now.

Fabio was brilliant for Hull last year and played as a striker for them once he had settled in scoring 9 goals and 1 assist in 12 games as a striker! Bear in mind we're all getting excited to see what Jay can do and he only got 12 all season. We'd buy him as a 10 of course but showed for Hull is a change up option.

Finally on the positive side he hasn't played much in the prem but when he has he has looked decent. End of the Parker relegation he looked like our best player for a few games and he was only 18. On the odd occasion he played for Liverpool still got a goal or two I believe. In the right team, playing the right position with the right manager I think he'd fly.

My only massive reservation would be losing another incredibly experienced and solid player who offers the team plenty in AP where Fabio would be more a work in progress.

I wonder what Marco would think if offered the choice?! He clearly adores AP but he did Fabio as well! Bet he'd love both but could only ever happen if AP went I think. If I were to guess I actually think his preference would be to keep AP as he seems to have limitless trust in him. If AP gets an offer and is desperate to leave id personally be all over Fabio coming back. God just imagine him, Sess and Jay smashing it. We can but dream.

Convincing argument IMO.

[Count Flapula]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabio-carvalho-shares-latest-liverpool-29622743


Fabio not ruling out a move away from liverpool, ultimately just wants to play consistently.
So - if it meant selling Andreas Pereira to make way- would you try and bring him back and play ESR on the left?

At first I was well up for  it but more I think about it I'm not sold on the idea 100% . Just musing on a Sunday, interested what other people would make of it.

Sess was obviously a more feelgood return having signed and got us a good fee originally, + came back on a free , Imagine some might not be so keen on young Fabio but interested to hear peoples thoughts

Ability / age wise i'd 100% take him back. Imagine the fee would be north of £20m so i'd say no solely on the principle of WE'D have effectively paid LIVERPOOL £20,000,000+ for THEM to loan him off us for 2 years and not play him.

Call me a small, petty man if you like but the above would really leave a bitter taste so i'll pass ;)

Yeh I can see that being a frustrating mental barrier. We got around 5m-£7m for him and have a 20% sell-on clause. So we'd get 20% off if that helps.

So if it were 20m it'd be effectively £16m with the 20% off. We received £5m, so minus £11m for the whole thing having not paid his wages for a few years.

Having signed Sess on a free maybe it'd be a net win? haha full mental gymnastics. Ultimately if we get a great young player there are worse deals out there. Assuming we sold Andreas for £30+ to Cheslea to make way for him we'd have probably made  around 20m in profit on Andreas. How we doing? any closer to being up for it? ha

I'm a big fan of AP but if we sold him for more than we'd have to buy Fabio back for I'd be all over it. Firstly Fabio is 21 and AP is 28. Secondly I think when fully developed Fabio will be a better player than AP. Thirdly Fabio will score goals. You could find both Fabio and ESR could push double figures which is massive and takes a lot of pressure off Muniz. Finally just pure sentiment of course.

Yes it would be extremely frustrating paying Liverpool say £20 million but if he reaches his potential he could be worth £50m+ in a few years so think of it that way. AP will never be worth more than he is now.

Fabio was brilliant for Hull last year and played as a striker for them once he had settled in scoring 9 goals and 1 assist in 12 games as a striker! Bear in mind we're all getting excited to see what Jay can do and he only got 12 all season. We'd buy him as a 10 of course but showed for Hull is a change up option.

Finally on the positive side he hasn't played much in the prem but when he has he has looked decent. End of the Parker relegation he looked like our best player for a few games and he was only 18. On the odd occasion he played for Liverpool still got a goal or two I believe. In the right team, playing the right position with the right manager I think he'd fly.

My only massive reservation would be losing another incredibly experienced and solid player who offers the team plenty in AP where Fabio would be more a work in progress.

I wonder what Marco would think if offered the choice?! He clearly adores AP but he did Fabio as well! Bet he'd love both but could only ever happen if AP went I think. If I were to guess I actually think his preference would be to keep AP as he seems to have limitless trust in him. If AP gets an offer and is desperate to leave id personally be all over Fabio coming back. God just imagine him, Sess and Jay smashing it. We can but dream.

Fees and my own personal pettiness aside I'd love Fabio back, but the fact we have a 20% sell on clause could mean Liverpool would be more reluctant to sell back to us over pretty much anyone as they would be losing out - unless we paid 20% over the odds / more than other bidders to make up the "shortfall".

But yeah, would be great to see him back in a Fulham shirt.

[sarnian]

Should we waste anymore  time chasing McTominay

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/scott-mctominay-sees-manchester-united-29627438

No

Get Andre done asap

Just journalists bulls***.

[Tabby]

Should we waste anymore  time chasing McTominay

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/scott-mctominay-sees-manchester-united-29627438

No

Get Andre done asap

Just journalists bulls***.

Given that we have had their president confirming that we made a bid, to what extent is it journalist bulls***? Quoted below.

"Fulham are the club that have been looking for Andre since last year, as well as Liverpool. In January they made a new bid. At the moment, what we have is a piece of paper from Fulham with a proposal, and a piece of paper from Fluminense with a counter-proposal. We don't have an answer yet."

[Lighthouse]

I don't think McTominay was ever really more than paper talk.

[Woodlawn]

Andrea played for fuminese today and was subbed in the 83 min no sign of him departing

[Hugh Janus]

The word is Fluminese want the geezer to play on with them into August.

[sarnian]

Should we waste anymore  time chasing McTominay

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/scott-mctominay-sees-manchester-united-29627438

No

Get Andre done asap

Just journalists bulls***.

Given that we have had their president confirming that we made a bid, to what extent is it journalist bulls***? Quoted below.

"Fulham are the club that have been looking for Andre since last year, as well as Liverpool. In January they made a new bid. At the moment, what we have is a piece of paper from Fulham with a proposal, and a piece of paper from Fluminense with a counter-proposal. We don't have an answer yet."

Have you heard him personally say this or was it a journalists report.

[Tabby]

Given that we have had their president confirming that we made a bid, to what extent is it journalist bulls***? Quoted below.

"Fulham are the club that have been looking for Andre since last year, as well as Liverpool. In January they made a new bid. At the moment, what we have is a piece of paper from Fulham with a proposal, and a piece of paper from Fluminense with a counter-proposal. We don't have an answer yet."

Have you heard him personally say this or was it a journalists report.

He speaks Portuguese, so no I guess I haven't. But you can see a video of him saying it in Portuguese.

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/fluminense/noticia/2024/07/18/mario-explica-negociacao-por-andre-e-diz-que-fulham-nao-respondeu-contraproposta-do-fluminense.ghtml

It is probably a deepfake though.

[Fulham 442]

I don't think McTominay was ever really more than paper talk.

Even if it was more than paper talk I don't think he wants to come to us, end of ..

[sarnian]

Given that we have had their president confirming that we made a bid, to what extent is it journalist bulls***? Quoted below.

"Fulham are the club that have been looking for Andre since last year, as well as Liverpool. In January they made a new bid. At the moment, what we have is a piece of paper from Fulham with a proposal, and a piece of paper from Fluminense with a counter-proposal. We don't have an answer yet."

Have you heard him personally say this or was it a journalists report.

He speaks Portuguese, so no I guess I haven't. But you can see a video of him saying it in Portuguese.

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/fluminense/noticia/2024/07/18/mario-explica-negociacao-por-andre-e-diz-que-fulham-nao-respondeu-contraproposta-do-fluminense.ghtml

It is probably a deepfake though.

Not having a go at you personally Tabby it's just that I was told on what I believe was good authority in January that we had never been interested in Andre.  If proved wrong I apologize.

[General]

Given that we have had their president confirming that we made a bid, to what extent is it journalist bulls***? Quoted below.

"Fulham are the club that have been looking for Andre since last year, as well as Liverpool. In January they made a new bid. At the moment, what we have is a piece of paper from Fulham with a proposal, and a piece of paper from Fluminense with a counter-proposal. We don't have an answer yet."

Have you heard him personally say this or was it a journalists report.

He speaks Portuguese, so no I guess I haven't. But you can see a video of him saying it in Portuguese.

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/fluminense/noticia/2024/07/18/mario-explica-negociacao-por-andre-e-diz-que-fulham-nao-respondeu-contraproposta-do-fluminense.ghtml

It is probably a deepfake though.

That quote above is a direct quote from fluminese's president made a week or two ago.

[St Eve]

Should we waste anymore  time chasing McTominay

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/scott-mctominay-sees-manchester-united-29627438

Absolutely not

[St Eve]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabio-carvalho-shares-latest-liverpool-29622743


Fabio not ruling out a move away from liverpool, ultimately just wants to play consistently.
So - if it meant selling Andreas Pereira to make way- would you try and bring him back and play ESR on the left?

At first I was well up for  it but more I think about it I'm not sold on the idea 100% . Just musing on a Sunday, interested what other people would make of it.

Sess was obviously a more feelgood return having signed and got us a good fee originally, + came back on a free , Imagine some might not be so keen on young Fabio but interested to hear peoples thoughts

I would take him back in a second whether or not AP stays

[SimonDaviesEnjoyer]

My bet is Andre doesn't materialise, ends up somewhere like France, and we get Kalvin Philips on loan-to-buy.

I'd be disappointed, but then I was disappointed when we got Sidwell and he turned out to be a bright spot in a dodgy team. Different kinds of players but for some reason I'd bucket them together.

[BestOfBrede]

Let's hope we haven't waited too long, hoping for them to crack, and then we lose out for a couple of million euros!
It's not my money but 'IF' we've been after Andre for over a year, then surely cough up and not lose out!
I'm concerned that another club jumps in at the last minute!