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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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irish_mike

Replacement for Muniz are we thinking or to compliment?

The beancounters at the club might like the idea of selling Muniz for 30 plus and getting a replacement in for near half the price

fulhamfan

If Leeds offer 50 mil we would accept it

SimonDaviesEnjoyer

Quote from: fulhamfan on June 27, 2025, 08:18:26 AMIf Leeds offer 50 mil we would accept it

I think they'd be mad not to, much as I like him.


KentFulham

Personally I would take the 26m on offer, that's a right touch! Get someone in for that plus the extra £15m we were gonna spend on Romolu, £40m should get us something decent.

Not taking the money at the right time could be costly, look at AR and AP, value tumbled after last seasons showing.

General

It's amazing the alternative narratives fans can come up with and push, despite rarely having genuine insights on players or clubs preferences, the genuine financial position of the club and those who take decisions...

In particular at this moment in time saying the club will/should sell Muniz (not everyone is saying this admittedly)..

Firstly muniz isn't in his prime, so those interested in cash money aren't thinking properly. You tend to keep assets that you know will appreciate in value over time.

If some say - let's sell him for £30m when we all acknowledge he could be worth £50m-£60m then you're basically selling yourself short or up s**t creek without a paddle.

Why would you knowingly miss out on an extra potential 100% of upside, when all you need to do is be patient.

It's very short term and unhealthy thinking.. kinda desperate. Which the club aren't.

Don't forget the rise in valuation is based on improved performances on the pitch, which is great for the club in terms of points, league positions and revenues, but could see us get into Europe, where £30m would make a lot less difference than £60m.

It's funny how there have been no sounds out of anyone at the club saying they want Muniz gone, if anything the complete opposite, shown in practice by Muniz staying on at the club and succeeding despite his poor Middlesbrough loan.

And even the more mainstream press like SSN, who are usually first to jump on a rumour and inflate it have said that fulham have no intention of selling Muniz..

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/13279313/fulham-transfers-latest-news-rumours-and-gossip-live-updates-goals-and-highlights?postid=9790233#liveblog-body


Now, I know, sometimes things change.. and Marco has wanted players to stay before who've left. So we're not ruling anything out per se, but mitrovic was forcing through his move and we were getting good value for him.. similarly with Palhinha.

But Muniz isn't going for what he's worth, and by a long way, and he's not going to a top European team, or to a club that's paying him obscene amounts, or even a better place to live with a better setup re coach/manager that believe in him and can help him develop.


Deeping_white

Quote from: KentFulham on June 27, 2025, 08:43:36 AMPersonally I would take the 26m on offer, that's a right touch! Get someone in for that plus the extra £15m we were gonna spend on Romolu, £40m should get us something decent.

Not taking the money at the right time could be costly, look at AR and AP, value tumbled after last seasons showing.

There's a 25% sell on fee that Flamengo get, so that would be awful business given the inflated striker market for someone who can actually score in the PL



hovewhite

Sell muniz even less chance of Marco staying,also I wouldn't trust our recruiting team to get a replacement.

@jolslover

I love Muniz, think he's a top player and all round great guy. I think Leeds could even see a profit on 50m in a few years but if a 50m bid came in then we would have to seriously consider it..

Really like the look of this Romulo also (albeit just from Youtube highlight reels..)
STH H3


cookieg

Quote from: General on June 27, 2025, 08:52:37 AMIt's amazing the alternative narratives fans can come up with and push, despite rarely having genuine insights on players or clubs preferences, the genuine financial position of the club and those who take decisions...

In particular at this moment in time saying the club will/should sell Muniz (not everyone is saying this admittedly)..

Firstly muniz isn't in his prime, so those interested in cash money aren't thinking properly. You tend to keep assets that you know will appreciate in value over time.

If some say - let's sell him for £30m when we all acknowledge he could be worth £50m-£60m then you're basically selling yourself short or up s**t creek without a paddle.

Why would you knowingly miss out on an extra potential 100% of upside, when all you need to do is be patient.

It's very short term and unhealthy thinking.. kinda desperate. Which the club aren't.

Don't forget the rise in valuation is based on improved performances on the pitch, which is great for the club in terms of points, league positions and revenues, but could see us get into Europe, where £30m would make a lot less difference than £60m.

It's funny how there have been no sounds out of anyone at the club saying they want Muniz gone, if anything the complete opposite, shown in practice by Muniz staying on at the club and succeeding despite his poor Middlesbrough loan.

And even the more mainstream press like SSN, who are usually first to jump on a rumour and inflate it have said that fulham have no intention of selling Muniz..

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/13279313/fulham-transfers-latest-news-rumours-and-gossip-live-updates-goals-and-highlights?postid=9790233#liveblog-body


Now, I know, sometimes things change.. and Marco has wanted players to stay before who've left. So we're not ruling anything out per se, but mitrovic was forcing through his move and we were getting good value for him.. similarly with Palhinha.

But Muniz isn't going for what he's worth, and by a long way, and he's not going to a top European team, or to a club that's paying him obscene amounts, or even a better place to live with a better setup re coach/manager that believe in him and can help him develop.



What makes you think that Muniz will reach "his prime". This may well be his prime. He may not have the all round ability to be first choice. There's no guarantee that he will be a £50-60m player in 2/3 years. No player is unsellable and if Marco thinks that the money on offer is good and he knows who he can replace him with then so be it.

There are too many uncertainties over any player. The only thing which is certain is that Leeds are interested in him and if Marco feels he can go he goes.

Somerset Fulham

Why are we seemingly in the same talent pool as Leeds according to these 'journalists'?

That's what baffles me.



Drewry66

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 27, 2025, 09:26:35 AMWhy are we seemingly in the same talent pool as Leeds according to these 'journalists'?

That's what baffles me.

Seems like they are aiming pretty high with a £32m bid for Muniz. Not bad then if we are fishing in the same pool for our third striker. Main point is that there are so few decent strikers about around in the £20m to £30m pool so not surprising linked to the same names.

AJW48361

Muniz has massive improvement to come got the complete package. Downside stop being too nice to opposition defenders

AJW48361

Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2025, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on June 26, 2025, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 26, 2025, 04:01:49 PMhttps://twitter.com/jackellyffc/status/1938251119911751749 Does he lack a few inches?
I'm a fan of this one. A really solid keeper, homegrown and will probably be satisfied with limited playing time. Free agent too.

He isn't homegrown. Would take up one of our foreign spots. TBH don't think we are close to reaching home grown limits but never know


demeant0r

Muniz seems to be Marco's pride and joy so no way are we selling him. Selling Muniz would definitely result in Marco not signing a new contract.

jayffc

Quote from: Deeping_white on June 27, 2025, 08:57:19 AMhttps://twitter.com/fulhamtransfer/status/1938452075152638102

Decent winger TBF,
Can play both wings. Definitely worse options out there but obviously not fofana levels of excitement who I think might be tough to sign.



Pavel Dempsey

Quote from: irish_mike on June 27, 2025, 08:05:51 AMReplacement for Muniz are we thinking or to compliment?

The beancounters at the club might like the idea of selling Muniz for 30 plus and getting a replacement in for near half the price

They already rejected 30m for Muniz, mate.


Sting of the North

Quote from: Deeping_white on June 27, 2025, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: KentFulham on June 27, 2025, 08:43:36 AMPersonally I would take the 26m on offer, that's a right touch! Get someone in for that plus the extra £15m we were gonna spend on Romolu, £40m should get us something decent.

Not taking the money at the right time could be costly, look at AR and AP, value tumbled after last seasons showing.

There's a 25% sell on fee that Flamengo get, so that would be awful business given the inflated striker market for someone who can actually score in the PL

Agree, would be absolutely horrible business to sell him for that little. Also even for 40 million it is really hard to find a striker that is even as proven as Muniz in the PL. That market (young-ish striker that has proven to be capable to score in the PL) is probably the most inflated of them all (from my gut feeling, nothing else). Terrible suggestion in my opinion.

Drewry66