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Post Match Thread: Sheffield Utd 1-1 Fulham

Started by Milo, October 18, 2020, 01:55:56 PM

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Lyle from Hangeland

Quote from: davew on October 18, 2020, 01:59:00 PM
We moved the ball forward with a lot more pace, I am beginning to think we might win a few games this season after all!

Yes, gird your loins with thoughts like this. It is going to be one hell of a season.

Dodgin

Tosin, wonder if he would have started if Anderson was fit. Looks like a really good buy.

rebel

Quote from: FFC In Oz on October 18, 2020, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: rebel on October 18, 2020, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: andyk on October 18, 2020, 02:01:42 PM
Second half was quality. We bossed the game and they got a very dodgy penalty .  There are signs of hope, Lookman obviously, RLC  too. Pity we didn't win but I'm a bit more hopeful than I was at half time. 
Looking at the table, it's possible 32 or 33 points will be enough this season.

Agreed.

It's a shame because we actually look pretty good when we are switched on and playing with some urgency.

We look much more cohesive going forward.

I've no idea why we can't start games like that

After we went 1 - 0 up, we need to boss the game from the first minute. 

'we actually look pretty good when we are switched on and playing with some urgency' this sums it up, we need to start with 'urgency' and maintain that for 90 minutes plus, Joka's sides did that. Some of the time it looks like we are strolling around, we can't change gears quickly enough. After we scored we 'looked' like we meant business.


hkfulham

Quote from: Dodgin on October 18, 2020, 02:45:56 PM
Tosin, wonder if he would have started if Anderson was fit. Looks like a really good buy.

I think so.  Reem would have been dropped.

General

Quote from: clarkey on October 18, 2020, 02:19:36 PM
Fulham defence looked much better today, Ream excellent as predicted. Toisin passing is excellent.

Lookman brilliant so lots of positives but CAV...why ???? He was awful, we played the game with 10 men and he gave the ball away more than he didn't and contributed zero. When free and we had 3 to 1 in the box he passed to the one defender. Appalling. He needs shipping out.

Parker also showed how bad he is with substitutions, which is abig failing of his. At 70 mins Loftus Cheek was shot, needed to come off but he waited another 10 minutes, and of course Cav should have been hooked at 45 mins, we neded either Kebano, Reed or Josh to toughen it up, especially in last 15 minutes. We only used one sub, this is a failing, we needed fresh legs, there is nothing to lose in bringing in some energy at that time. :Look at the impact when he did  make a sub eventually !

Still lots of positives.

Sorry but we must have been watching different games regarding Ream... he was far from Excellent as you state.. he had a clearance again in this game, like against Wolves where he stretched himself out to put a block in only for the ball to fall to their player inside our box. He has little composure in the premier league and will be dropped as soon as Kongolo or Andersen are fit and rightly so.

bencher

Quote from: General on October 18, 2020, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: clarkey on October 18, 2020, 02:19:36 PM
Fulham defence looked much better today, Ream excellent as predicted. Toisin passing is excellent.

Lookman brilliant so lots of positives but CAV...why ???? He was awful, we played the game with 10 men and he gave the ball away more than he didn't and contributed zero. When free and we had 3 to 1 in the box he passed to the one defender. Appalling. He needs shipping out.

Parker also showed how bad he is with substitutions, which is abig failing of his. At 70 mins Loftus Cheek was shot, needed to come off but he waited another 10 minutes, and of course Cav should have been hooked at 45 mins, we neded either Kebano, Reed or Josh to toughen it up, especially in last 15 minutes. We only used one sub, this is a failing, we needed fresh legs, there is nothing to lose in bringing in some energy at that time. :Look at the impact when he did  make a sub eventually !

Still lots of positives.

Sorry but we must have been watching different games regarding Ream... he was far from Excellent as you state.. he had a clearance again in this game, like against Wolves where he stretched himself out to put a block in only for the ball to fall to their player inside our box. He has little composure in the premier league and will be dropped as soon as Kongolo or Andersen are fit and rightly so.

I just remarked on this on another thread re Tosin. Ream has done this a number of times. A major weakness that gets shown up in the PL (albeit he got away with today). Half clearances lead to goals at this level, more often that not.


HV71

Thought we looked a lot better in the 2nd half- and do believe we have a chance of getting out of this. Find the posts attacking Mitro distasteful and totally unnecessary- without him we will undoubtedly go down  - he just didn't have a great day . Feel more optimistic. This lot could actually gel and name it work

Moltobueno

Quote from: VamosFFC on October 18, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
Anyone want to fault Ream today? Thought he had a really great game alongside Tosin. Can't fault him at all today.



Well sorry, but Ream can't properly clear a ball. Today he "cleared" the ball straight to Sheff Utd player who was standing close to the penalty box line atleast twice today

S.F.Sorrow

Shockingly poor first half. These slow starts will get us relegated.

Ream should never play for us again. I'd rather play with 10 men.

Our left side was wide open. I expect to see Bryan back next game. Robinson has a couple of good runs but he is completely out of his depth defensively. Aina looks poor too.

Cavaleiro should never have started. If he starts next game I will join the Parker Out brigade.

Mitro doesn't look interested anymore. We play nicer football without him and when he doesn't provide the goals we might as well bench him and hope for some kind of response.

The second half was better but normally we would have been down 0-3 after such a poor first half. Sorry, I still can't see this squad finishing above 18th.

On the positive side Areola and Lookman looks great but sadly that's nowhere near enough to save us.


blingo

Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on October 18, 2020, 01:59:19 PM
Mixed feelings. Should've been down by a few goals first half, but were the better team second half. Mitro had a shocker. Adarabioyo was outstanding and Ream did well.
Lookman was very very good 2nd half and scored a genius goal.

Overall a fair result but disappointing.


Sums it up for me too. +1

Mince n Tatties

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Quote from: Moltobueno on October 18, 2020, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on October 18, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
Anyone want to fault Ream today? Thought he had a really great game alongside Tosin. Can't fault him at all today.



Well sorry, but Ream can't properly clear a ball. Today he "cleared" the ball straight to Sheff Utd player who was standing close to the penalty box line atleast twice today

How many games do you watch where defenders clearance goes to opposing player...Have you seen some of the cock ups by so called world class defenders who cost ridiculous prices to sign,this season playing for Liverpool and Manure.
Yet people on here endlessly get at Ream for one miss kick,even slagging him off before the ref has started the game.... Hilarious.

Lyle from Hangeland

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on October 18, 2020, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on October 18, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
Anyone want to fault Ream today? Thought he had a really great game alongside Tosin. Can't fault him at all today.



Well sorry, but Ream can't properly clear a ball. Today he "cleared" the ball straight to Sheff Utd player who was standing close to the penalty box line atleast twice today

How many games do you watch where defenders clearance goes to opposing player...Have you seen some of the cock ups by so called world class defenders who cost ridiculous prices to sign this season,playing for Liverpool and Manure.
Yet people on here endlessly get at Ream for one miss kick,even slagging him off before the ref has started the game.... Hilarious.

Truth. People are just ignorant and don't take their ignorance into account before commenting.


Somerset Fulham

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on October 18, 2020, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on October 18, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
Anyone want to fault Ream today? Thought he had a really great game alongside Tosin. Can't fault him at all today.



Well sorry, but Ream can't properly clear a ball. Today he "cleared" the ball straight to Sheff Utd player who was standing close to the penalty box line atleast twice today

How many games do you watch where defenders clearance goes to opposing player...Have you seen some of the cock ups by so called world class defenders who cost ridiculous prices to sign,this season playing for Liverpool and Manure.
Yet people on here endlessly get at Ream for one miss kick,even slagging him off before the ref has started the game.... Hilarious.

Absolutely this.

Statto

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on October 18, 2020, 03:52:35 PM
Well sorry, but Ream can't properly clear a ball. Today he "cleared" the ball straight to Sheff Utd player who was standing close to the penalty box line atleast twice today

How many games do you watch where defenders clearance goes to opposing player...

I think the key words you've missed are "who was standing close to the penalty box". If you smack a clearance 80 yards up the pitch and it lands on an opposition player then fine, but a "clearance" should not be going to one of their players on the edge of our own 18 yard box

With that said, I thought Ream was fairly steady today, which is the best we're going to get from him at this level. Hopefully whatever kept Hector out today is short-term and we can see a Hector-Tosin CB pairing soon, then eventually Anderson with one of those two.

VamosFFC

Quote from: General on October 18, 2020, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: clarkey on October 18, 2020, 02:19:36 PM
Fulham defence looked much better today, Ream excellent as predicted. Toisin passing is excellent.

Lookman brilliant so lots of positives but CAV...why ???? He was awful, we played the game with 10 men and he gave the ball away more than he didn't and contributed zero. When free and we had 3 to 1 in the box he passed to the one defender. Appalling. He needs shipping out.

Parker also showed how bad he is with substitutions, which is abig failing of his. At 70 mins Loftus Cheek was shot, needed to come off but he waited another 10 minutes, and of course Cav should have been hooked at 45 mins, we neded either Kebano, Reed or Josh to toughen it up, especially in last 15 minutes. We only used one sub, this is a failing, we needed fresh legs, there is nothing to lose in bringing in some energy at that time. :Look at the impact when he did  make a sub eventually !

Still lots of positives.

Sorry but we must have been watching different games regarding Ream... he was far from Excellent as you state.. he had a clearance again in this game, like against Wolves where he stretched himself out to put a block in only for the ball to fall to their player inside our box. He has little composure in the premier league and will be dropped as soon as Kongolo or Andersen are fit and rightly so.

What do you expect from throwing your leg out to stop a dangerous ball from going inside our 6 yard box?! Would you rather Ream just let it go or he try and put in a block? I'd rather our defenders always try to defend our goal even if it means a blocked cross or shot falls to the opponent by chance.


Moltobueno

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on October 18, 2020, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on October 18, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
Anyone want to fault Ream today? Thought he had a really great game alongside Tosin. Can't fault him at all today.



Well sorry, but Ream can't properly clear a ball. Today he "cleared" the ball straight to Sheff Utd player who was standing close to the penalty box line atleast twice today

How many games do you watch where defenders clearance goes to opposing player...Have you seen some of the cock ups by so called world class defenders who cost ridiculous prices to sign,this season playing for Liverpool and Manure.
Yet people on here endlessly get at Ream for one miss kick,even slagging him off before the ref has started the game.... Hilarious.

As someone already posted, these defenders clear the ball, literally. Not just to the edge of the penalty area.

I can't recall myself "getting at" Ream or slagging him off before, it was just a response to the question of can anyone fault Ream.

"One miss kick" is generous although