News:

Use a VPN to stream games Safely and Securely 🔒
A Virtual Private Network can also allow you to
watch games Not being broadcast in the UK For
more Information and how to Sign Up go to
https://go.nordvpn.net/SH4FE

Main Menu


Cairney’s pass to Lukic

Started by perry geyton, October 03, 2023, 05:03:44 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

perry geyton

Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 06, 2023, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 05, 2023, 06:12:27 PMThe same sheeple slagging him also wrote Tim Ream off a couple of seasons ago saying he should retire..

I'm not sure using Tim Ream and his current form as the best example was the wisest there Perry, but I do agree there's nothing wrong with Tom Cairney's knees!
Couple of mistakes, he's been brilliant, don't start that one again please

perry geyton

Quote from: Sammyffc on October 06, 2023, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 05, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Sammyffc on October 05, 2023, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 05, 2023, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 05, 2023, 05:23:10 PMCorrect me if I'm wrong but didn't Tom start in the first leg of the FA cup when we beat Spurs ?

Don't engage, he will just refute or ignore everything that won't back up his subjective opinion. He's just a wind up merchant. The clue is in him not even trying to be neither coherent, balanced or honest. 

Wind up merchant? i said Tom doesn't start because he has 2 assists in 90 premier league games, so clearly i am talking about the premier league. If he wants to divert and talk about the FA cup thats on him.

I don't talk about indian food then bring a chicken chow mein into the equation.

What an embarrassment.

Why don't you and Perry go and tell Marco what an embarrassment he is for not playing him, i'm sure you'll be able to get close to the managers area or would you bend down and ask for an autograph instead ?
Strange comment

Benny

I'd like to see Perreira sit this one out.

Would really like to see Raul play in his position with Vini leading the line

Perreira doesn't bring much at all, all his set plays are poor considering he was meant to be a set play specialist, doesn't score and his decision making is awful mostly IMO


Sammyffc

Quote from: perry geyton on October 06, 2023, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Sammyffc on October 06, 2023, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 05, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Sammyffc on October 05, 2023, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 05, 2023, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 05, 2023, 05:23:10 PMCorrect me if I'm wrong but didn't Tom start in the first leg of the FA cup when we beat Spurs ?

Don't engage, he will just refute or ignore everything that won't back up his subjective opinion. He's just a wind up merchant. The clue is in him not even trying to be neither coherent, balanced or honest. 

Wind up merchant? i said Tom doesn't start because he has 2 assists in 90 premier league games, so clearly i am talking about the premier league. If he wants to divert and talk about the FA cup thats on him.

I don't talk about indian food then bring a chicken chow mein into the equation.

What an embarrassment.

Why don't you and Perry go and tell Marco what an embarrassment he is for not playing him, i'm sure you'll be able to get close to the managers area or would you bend down and ask for an autograph instead ?
Strange comment

not really, you are the one who gets hyper offended whenever someone says one of our long time Fulham players have got worse. Ream before, Cairney now. Nobody is surprised.

perry geyton

Actually Sammy your the one that's getting hyper defensive over me saying Perreira needs to sit on the bench for a bit,
I'm not the only one thinking like this by the way, just read an article about it,

Perreira's been asleep the last few games, a bit like yourself

As far as Ream goes he's been brilliant and one of our most consistent players over the past couple of seasons, our captain..
not sure why that offends you either


Twig

Quote from: Bobsffc on October 06, 2023, 02:44:11 PMTC is a class act, and I think last season had out a very effective way of using him,  bringing him on after 60/70 minutes as the game opened up.

What disappoints me about TC is that he could be more effective, particularly when it comes to goal scoring. Three areas in particular he should be doing better.

1. Arriving late into the danger penalty area
2. Insisting (as captain) that he takes free kicks around the area - none of the usual suspects pose much of a threat atm
3. Taking shots from around the penalty box when he is in a position to do so.

With his ability, he could and should be scoring 10+ goals a season , even in the PL

I think there is some fair and reasonable thought gone into this. It's far, far more nuanced than the usual tedious "only left footed" or "too slow" nonsense. I do agree that he should be more assertive as skipper and take more free kicks. I also agree that he should have a few more goals in him although I think that depends a bit on precisely how Marco uses him.


Plodder

I have always admired Tom Cairney's ability, and I think he still has something to offer off the bench. However, pace Twig, I do think that at the very top level, his lack of pace has always been a weaker part of his game, which has been exacerbated by age, and especially by his knee problems. I still think his strengths in terms of retaining possession, keeping the midfield ticking over, finding a telling through pass, and shooting from just outside the box outweigh his weaknesses (lack of pace and not good defensively or at harrying the opposition in possession), and I think he is a useful squad player.

Sammyffc

Quote from: perry geyton on October 06, 2023, 10:07:46 PMActually Sammy your the one that's getting hyper defensive over me saying Perreira needs to sit on the bench for a bit,
I'm not the only one thinking like this by the way, just read an article about it,

Perreira's been asleep the last few games, a bit like yourself

As far as Ream goes he's been brilliant and one of our most consistent players over the past couple of seasons, our captain..
not sure why that offends you either



+1  ::wink::

Twig

Quote from: Plodder on October 07, 2023, 11:42:29 AMI have always admired Tom Cairney's ability, and I think he still has something to offer off the bench. However, pace Twig, I do think that at the very top level, his lack of pace has always been a weaker part of his game, which has been exacerbated by age, and especially by his knee problems. I still think his strengths in terms of retaining possession, keeping the midfield ticking over, finding a telling through pass, and shooting from just outside the box outweigh his weaknesses (lack of pace and not good defensively or at harrying the opposition in possession), and I think he is a useful squad player.

Thing is Plodder that TC has never relied on physical pace to impact the game. Because of his ability to see and play a forward pass he can move us forward far quicker and more effectively than pacier players who rush forward then stop, turn and play it backwards or knock a cross into row z.  I'm not necessarily advocating him as a regular starter (although I think there are opponents he does particularly well against), but I do think he should get more minutes.


perry geyton

When he came on today we looked much better, more composed and we finished em off when they looked like they could get back into it

Plus a cracking right footer from Tom

Cobh Fulham Fan

Quote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:28:58 PMWhen he came on today we looked much better, more composed and we finished em off when they looked like they could get back into it

Plus a cracking right footer from Tom

Just saw the highlights and it was a cracker from Tom. sounds like he has been reading this board and wanted to reply himself!

Mullers OG

Without wanting to get involved in a tedious argument as to whether Cairney should be starting or not I do have one comment. In my opinion, and others are perfectly entitled to different ones, we look a better team with him on the pitch.


Jims Dentist

Quote from: Benny on October 06, 2023, 07:13:41 PMI'd like to see Perreira sit this one out.

Would really like to see Raul play in his position with Vini leading the line

Perreira doesn't bring much at all, all his set plays are poor considering he was meant to be a set play specialist, doesn't score and his decision making is awful mostly IMO
Very well said Benny.
Have said the same about Pereira for a while.
Will concede that it was his pass to BDR on on a breakaway  but other than that he was very poor.
Like you I have wondered how it might work with Raul in that position and a striker ahead.
Might mean we get more bodies in the box which is something we did not do today.