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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2024

Started by jayffc, May 19, 2024, 11:52:16 AM

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jayffc

#6240
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 31, 2024, 12:13:31 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 30, 2024, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 30, 2024, 11:11:40 PMReiss Nelson on loan... couldn't be any more underwhelming

This was an important signing, not just an optional afterthought

We look like mugs, an otherwise semi-respectable window undermined by the usual wheeler dealing and penny pinching and lack of consideration that we actually need to field a football team for the next 9 months
I hope that you bring this up with MS when you meet him next
It is so unreasonable of him to be prepared to wait until two or three matches into the season for players of his choosing to be signed.
Tell MS that he should choose from those that can be signed in time for the preseason.

Whoever (if anyone) we sign in the coming minutes, it will not be the player of his (or anyone's) choosing. It will be the dregs of the market that was left available after all else failed.

Oh lord take a breath angus.

Nelson is not dregs ffsπŸ˜‚ arsenal are a title challenger and hes been their backup for a while to saka. Being not good enough for a starting role for arsenal doesnt mean ya dregs.

was reportedly wanted by 4 prem clubs and weve been linked to him early this summer and earlier this week and also in previous windows so nonsense that its not someone marco would have sanctioned either. Ya being reactionary here.

ESR
Berge
Andersen
Cuenca
Sess
Reiss Nelson

Looks great to me on paper and only one of those signed on dd.

+ coming out with a ton of profit to continue strengthening again in coming windows from selling our yet unproven at prem level 3rd choice striker.


🀷🏻

Roberty

Quote from: Angus Telford on August 31, 2024, 12:13:31 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 30, 2024, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 30, 2024, 11:11:40 PMReiss Nelson on loan... couldn't be any more underwhelming

This was an important signing, not just an optional afterthought

We look like mugs, an otherwise semi-respectable window undermined by the usual wheeler dealing and penny pinching and lack of consideration that we actually need to field a football team for the next 9 months
I hope that you bring this up with MS when you meet him next
It is so unreasonable of him to be prepared to wait until two or three matches into the season for players of his choosing to be signed.
Tell MS that he should choose from those that can be signed in time for the preseason.

Whoever (if anyone) we sign in the coming minutes, it will not be the player of his (or anyone's) choosing. It will be the dregs of the market that was left available after all else failed.
Have you spoken to MS already?
It's not what he said at his recent press conferences.
MS wanted us to believe that all signing are agreed with him
That he accepted that some would not happen until near to the end of the window
It is very naughty of him to tell you the truth and lie at a press conference.
It could be better, but it's not a fantasy:

FulhamKC

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 30, 2024, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 30, 2024, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: FulhamKC on August 30, 2024, 11:41:53 PMShould we have paid Brentford Β£40 million for Toney?
No





Possibly, but his wages was the most unlikely thing in this scenario.....Much like people pitching Sterling.

Don't know what his wages are so that could have been a deal breaker. But the man can score goals and been our replacement for Mitro.


Arthur

Quote from: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on August 31, 2024, 12:21:05 AMHow is the Stanfield deal remarkable?

My view: It's a lot of money with the possibility of yet more to come for a player whose ceiling may well be the Championship.

SimonDaviesEnjoyer

No it isn't remarkable. We signed McCormack for 12m nearly a decade ago, knowing he had no potential upside. He was a Championship goalscorer and he did a job for us.

Factor in massive inflation since then, plus the fact this is a young lad who could be much better than that.

Chiesa is a silly comparison because there's obviously something else going on there. Unless people genuinely think they're comparable players.

Arthur

#6245
Quote from: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on August 31, 2024, 12:31:55 AMNo it isn't remarkable. We signed McCormack for 12m nearly a decade ago, knowing he had no potential upside. He was a Championship goalscorer and he did a job for us.

Factor in massive inflation since then, plus the fact this is a young lad who could be much better than that.

I don't understand what McCormack has to do with anything. We're not now in the Championship and McCormack never went on to play in the P.L. after signing for us. Villa later paid us what we laid out for him and he never justified the fee. Flopped. I don't think citing McCormack says anything relevant about the Stansfield deal.


Drewry66

Quote from: Angus Telford on August 31, 2024, 12:13:31 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 30, 2024, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 30, 2024, 11:11:40 PMReiss Nelson on loan... couldn't be any more underwhelming

This was an important signing, not just an optional afterthought

We look like mugs, an otherwise semi-respectable window undermined by the usual wheeler dealing and penny pinching and lack of consideration that we actually need to field a football team for the next 9 months
I hope that you bring this up with MS when you meet him next
It is so unreasonable of him to be prepared to wait until two or three matches into the season for players of his choosing to be signed.
Tell MS that he should choose from those that can be signed in time for the preseason.

Whoever (if anyone) we sign in the coming minutes, it will not be the player of his (or anyone's) choosing. It will be the dregs of the market that was left available after all else failed.

Sorry mate but you really don't know that at all. You don't know who Marco s preference was. Reports are that the club switched to Nelson who clearly seemed to be on our list from reports. Plenty on here that quite like the idea of Nelson. Both the Lyon lads certainly looked exciting but both incredibly raw, one with multiple reports of attitude problems and neither had proved it in any way at the highest level. Lyon fans seem to think both are pretty rubbish. One defo didn't want to come and the other either didn't or we sacked him off last minute. Either could have been complete flops and no guarantee any better than Nelson.

Nelson just hasn't played much (with ridiculous players in front of him) so hard to tell but 4 goals and 2 assists in 14 games of actual playing time in the prem is very promising.

In 7 games of playing time in the German prem he got 7 goals and 1 assist. Excellent.

In Holland 2 goals and 4 assists in 10 games of playing time. Not bad.

Arsenal fans from bits I have read seem to think he's a good player. Let's not write him off before he's even played for us.

Lighthouse

#6247
Toney officially gone to Al Ahli in Saudi League.

Why would anybody want to sacrifice an England place simply to make money?
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

SerbianLad

Quote from: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on August 31, 2024, 12:31:55 AMNo it isn't remarkable. We signed McCormack for 12m nearly a decade ago, knowing he had no potential upside. He was a Championship goalscorer and he did a job for us.

Factor in massive inflation since then, plus the fact this is a young lad who could be much better than that.

Chiesa is a silly comparison because there's obviously something else going on there. Unless people genuinely think they're comparable players.
We got Palhinha for less than what we got for Stansfield. Same with most current players apart from a few, and even those players aren't that far ahead, particularly Bassey and Iwobi. Of it turns out he's as good as some Fulham fans seemingly think he'll be, we'll get 30+ million in the end, because of a large 20% sell-on fee. If he turns to be worse than anyone can imagine, we'd still get 15-20 million. Really can't see how this isn't an incredible deal.


Roberty

Quote from: jayffc on August 31, 2024, 12:16:01 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 31, 2024, 12:02:53 AM
Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2024, 11:55:52 PM
Quote from: Roberty on August 30, 2024, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 30, 2024, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on August 30, 2024, 10:53:15 PMShambles

It is

This is why you really cannot leave anything important to the last minute
It just shows that some deals cannot be done until the last minute
MS accepts this and is prepared to wait for a player of his choosing to be signed rather than pick from those that are on offer.

Is there any club who have not been wheeler dealing today?

Many deals

Indeed Just look around at how busy this last week and day was

Tons of clubs all over Europe in the same situation, many of which have been deals clubs have been trying to do all summer and in key positions (like utds new DM)

Sometimes thats how it goes.

We managed to strike a deal for a winger with plenty potential which I think some people are massively underating and hoe he proves it here.

Everton, Ipswich and plenty others clearly failed on multiple frontsΒ  That's the game

On we go, I am disappointed we seemingly are sticking with Vini or another youth player as 3rd choice striker till at least January but Jay was 3rd choice at this point andΒ  getting minutes outside of up front so far in pre season and cup, so thats way too much to turn down... hopefully between our forwards and attacking players boosted by ESR and Reiss we can attack better as a unit then add whatever we need in Jan or next summer
If push comes to shove, maybe Diop can be converted. He would not be the first centre back to move forward.

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Imagine. Fortunately no chance

Still cant see vini confirmed anywhere and no message from the club about his departure where stanno had been confirmed already

Looks like its him back in the fold as 3rd choice or perhaps young Callums chance to put himself in contention. Lets hope we can avoid injuries and get Muniz firing again, worst case its vini redemption arc time πŸ˜…
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it will be up to MS to come up with an unexpected solution
It could be better, but it's not a fantasy:

Barry@ENF

Quote from: SerbianLad on August 31, 2024, 12:52:32 AM
Quote from: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on August 31, 2024, 12:31:55 AMNo it isn't remarkable. We signed McCormack for 12m nearly a decade ago, knowing he had no potential upside. He was a Championship goalscorer and he did a job for us.

Factor in massive inflation since then, plus the fact this is a young lad who could be much better than that.

Chiesa is a silly comparison because there's obviously something else going on there. Unless people genuinely think they're comparable players.
We got Palhinha for less than what we got for Stansfield. Same with most current players apart from a few, and even those players aren't that far ahead, particularly Bassey and Iwobi. Of it turns out he's as good as some Fulham fans seemingly think he'll be, we'll get 30+ million in the end, because of a large 20% sell-on fee. If he turns to be worse than anyone can imagine, we'd still get 15-20 million. Really can't see how this isn't an incredible deal.
I am sure that is right. It's perfectly possible to be disappointed that one of our own has left, but at the same time to recognize that it was a great deal financially.

SerbianLad

Quote from: Barry@ENF on August 31, 2024, 01:14:41 AMI am sure that is right. It's perfectly possible to be disappointed that one of our own has left, but at the same time to recognize that it was a great deal financially.
Of course. I'll miss him too. He seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy and was seemingly liked by everyone in and around the club. He also has a lot of potential. But if we're going to push up the table this is the kind of deal that has to be made.


jayffc

Just read a rumour saying there's no loan fee for reiss too πŸ‘πŸΌ suprised but glad to hear if true.

Martial or depay still free agents, do they fancy being our 2nd or 3rd option? πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚


Roberty

Quote from: jayffc on August 31, 2024, 01:21:29 AMJust read a rumour saying there's no loan fee for reiss too πŸ‘πŸΌ suprised but glad to hear if true.

Martial or depay still free agents, do they fancy being our 2nd or 3rd option? πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚


Is there an obligation to buy?
It could be better, but it's not a fantasy:

SerbianLad



sarnian

Prefer Reiss who wants to play football and has Premier League experience to foreign prospects who actually don't want to join the club.

Stansfield a good bit of business, wants to play regular football and not be a bench warmer which he would have been for us.

In one of his interviews MS did make a subtle hint that Stansfield could go so not over surprised to see it happen.Β  Onwards and upwards.


OZ-WHITE

If it wasn't for the medication I,d be chewing on your skin



Barrett487

Fulham have signed Arsenal winger Reiss Nelson on a season-long loan.

The 24-year-old - a former England Under-21 international - had been in talks with Ipswich before the Cottagers made their move on deadline day.

Nelson came through the Arsenal youth system and has made 90 first-team appearances.

He has also had loan spells at Feyenoord and Hoffenheim.

Nelson has played two minutes of Arsenal's Premier League season so far, having made 24 appearances during 2023-24.

Only two of those appearances were starts in the league or Champions League.