Players who had talent but never quite delivered

[The Doctor]

Wonder what happened to Nic Sahoun....great talent imo in his oh too brief period with us...on loan from Bordeaux where his dad died on the pitch...were it not for no23 he might have had more games...stocky build but great passer and oozed class...can only be in his early thirties now

Was discussing him with Dad a while ago and out of curiousity looked Sahnoun up on Wikipedia.  Bit of a 2nd-tier promotion specialist.  He's been promoted with 2 teams from Ligue 2.  Other than that, knocked around at the lower levels of French and Spanish football

[FatFreddysCat]

Wonder what happened to Nic Sahoun....great talent imo in his oh too brief period with us...on loan from Bordeaux where his dad died on the pitch...were it not for no23 he might have had more games...stocky build but great passer and oozed class...can only be in his early thirties now

yeah i thought he looked a winner, but then i thought Leon andreason was going to be big. As an after thought how about talented players who got injured. Jerome Bonnisell and Ian Selley, to this day i still hate Northampton for finishing his carear after only three games, it was Peschi's debut, who was very quickly our first Million pound player after Selley was our first £500k player. I thought Selley could have been much better than Peschi (who was my hero).
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Remember the day we signed Pesch Fred...decided to pop down to the BBC ground where Fulham were training at the time (opposite the current training ground but now disgracefully unkempt)..recall having a chat with Ray Wilkins about his arrival...a far cry from today's security patrolled arrangements......used to often have a chat with players in the bar and the likes of Micky Conroy used to use the club in the evenings..strangely for a scotsman he didnt drink... he loved celtic....had  a chat with kenny at fellows park did you....very talented player who would have played at a higher level in the modern era with the increased protection players of his type receive nowdays....offer still stands of a few beers if you can make it down next monday.

Cheers Travers, but just started a new job, albiet still agengy. Was going to get season ticket, but my mate Jay blew out after giving it all the biggun. Will defo do a few aways though, i'll look out for the flag.

[Holders]

Ian Selley (for reasons above), Dave Carlton ("the new Johnny Haynes"),  Leon Mackenzie (who came to us on loan, unheard of since).   

[domprague]

Just a discussion thread about players we have had that undoubtedly had talent but just never hit those heights.  I'm hoping that Ruiz doesn't fall into this category in coming seasons.

The player for me that had it all was Kamara. Pace to burn, skill but could never put 2 good games together and ultimately became very frustrating to watch.

Your thoughts?

What, Chris Kamara?

[finnster01]

Or after some mind scratching I would put Collins John in that category also

[jarv]

Vagrant asked about Steve Marlet. A mate of mine played against him recently. In California, a Sunday morning match in the over 30 league.

The top non performer for me was West Ham keeper, Bobby Ferguson. Signed for a record on a 10 year contract from a Scottish team and hardly ever played in the first team. Apparently, his 10 years in the reserves allowed him to become an excellent golfer.

[elgreenio]

currently browsing the exact same thread on another forum.

Names mentioned : Gazza, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Fabio Paim.

[HatterDon]

currently browsing the exact same thread on another forum.

Names mentioned : Gazza, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Fabio Paim.

Ronaldinho didn't deliver?

[elgreenio]

currently browsing the exact same thread on another forum.

Names mentioned : Gazza, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Fabio Paim.

Ronaldinho didn't deliver?

think mainly included for his rapid fall from the big time instead of really creating and leaving a legacy a la Giggs/Scholes.

Robinho maybe a better Brazilian example

[Rupert]

currently browsing the exact same thread on another forum.

Names mentioned : Gazza, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Fabio Paim.

Ronaldinho didn't deliver?

Not for us, no. Nor any of the others, the fools.

[cottage cheese]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

[HatterDon]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

[AlFayedsChequebook]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

Not sure the England players really had the talent in the first place...

[HatterDon]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

Not sure the England players really had the talent in the first place...

but for a couple of highly questionable coaching decisions, they'd have won the WC in 1970 also.

[AlFayedsChequebook]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

Not sure the England players really had the talent in the first place...

but for a couple of highly questionable coaching decisions, they'd have won the WC in 1970 also.

Possibly, but saying they 'would' have won the whole competition when they still would have had to face both Italy and Brazil (one of the best Brazil squads of all time) is potentially a little bit fanciful

[ClarksOriginal]

Jon Otsemobor. Meant to be Englands next best centre back when he was at Pool...... released by Sheff Weds this year.

[HatterDon]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

Not sure the England players really had the talent in the first place...

but for a couple of highly questionable coaching decisions, they'd have won the WC in 1970 also.

Possibly, but saying they 'would' have won the whole competition when they still would have had to face both Italy and Brazil (one of the best Brazil squads of all time) is potentially a little bit fanciful

Well, after having actually been alive and watched the '70 World Cup, I will respectfully disagree with you.

[AlFayedsChequebook]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

Not sure the England players really had the talent in the first place...

but for a couple of highly questionable coaching decisions, they'd have won the WC in 1970 also.

Possibly, but saying they 'would' have won the whole competition when they still would have had to face both Italy and Brazil (one of the best Brazil squads of all time) is potentially a little bit fanciful

Well, after having actually been alive and watched the '70 World Cup, I will respectfully disagree with you.

So all these years it people should have lustfully referred to 'England 1970' rather than 'Brazil 1970'?

[ImperialWhite]

the whole england team from 2000-2011.

or from 1967 - 2012

Not sure the England players really had the talent in the first place...

but for a couple of highly questionable coaching decisions, they'd have won the WC in 1970 also.

Possibly, but saying they 'would' have won the whole competition when they still would have had to face both Italy and Brazil (one of the best Brazil squads of all time) is potentially a little bit fanciful

Well, after having actually been alive and watched the '70 World Cup, I will respectfully disagree with you.

Your first hand account of the 1970 World Cup can give us a reasonable idea of whether or not England were the best team in the world (lots of people have said that we were) but it couldn't tell us the outcome of two hypothetical matches against two great sides. The best sides don't always win cups.

Even if we were the best side at the time, there's no accounting for luck, form, refereeing decisions (linesmen's decisions!) and the like - and the winners Brazil did beat us in the group stages.

[sunburywhite]

Mervin Day was going to be the next Gordon Banks then went off the face of the planet (reportedly just after he got married)