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[toshes mate]

Meanwhile on the good news front the anti-malarial drug chloroquine (which has already been named as a component of some forms of the vaccine) has been used in China and South Korea to reduce the time taken for patients with fairly difficult symptoms to recover and release hospital beds faster.  A potential treatment at least for some.

[ByTheRiver]

No mention of the U-turn the government has done from last weeks policy of, basically, 'your nan is gonna die lol'? It's now come out that that would have caused approx. 250k unnecessary deaths but will now only result in 10s of thousands (they let it run all weekend).

And to think, people that pulled them up on it were jumped on by the boot lickers on the press (and socials). Why are we such a subservient nation? It's the reason we still abide a monarchy (a monarchy! In 2020! people better than you because their great, great, great grandfather killed some folks and held more land than you...).

Take France for example. The government has going to raise the pension age by two years to 62 (still waaaaay lower than ours). Riots on the streets last year, things burned all sorts, its now reversed. Our pension age continually raised (and weakened) - nothing.

Boris throwing small businesses (and the entire arts industry) under a bus yesterday, nothing. Apart from him trying to support his mates in insurance above everyone else. France; bit of kick off, Macron has halted utility payments, rent/mortgage payments for those affected, pledged billions to support struggling businesses.

Embarrasing. A nation of serfs. The Victorian attitude lives on!

[ffcne]

No mention of the U-turn the government has done from last weeks policy of, basically, 'your nan is gonna die lol'? It's now come out that that would have caused approx. 250k unnecessary deaths but will now only result in 10s of thousands (they let it run all weekend).

And to think, people that pulled them up on it were jumped on by the boot lickers on the press (and socials). Why are we such a subservient nation? It's the reason we still abide a monarchy (a monarchy! In 2020! people better than you because their great, great, great grandfather killed some folks and held more land than you...).

Take France for example. The government has going to raise the pension age by two years to 62 (still waaaaay lower than ours). Riots on the streets last year, things burned all sorts, its now reversed. Our pension age continually raised (and weakened) - nothing.

Boris throwing small businesses (and the entire arts industry) under a bus yesterday, nothing. Apart from him trying to support his mates in insurance above everyone else. France; bit of kick off, Macron has halted utility payments, rent/mortgage payments for those affected, pledged billions to support struggling businesses.

Embarrasing. A nation of serfs. The Victorian attitude lives on!

Best you leave then mate .

[ByTheRiver]

No mention of the U-turn the government has done from last weeks policy of, basically, 'your nan is gonna die lol'? It's now come out that that would have caused approx. 250k unnecessary deaths but will now only result in 10s of thousands (they let it run all weekend).

And to think, people that pulled them up on it were jumped on by the boot lickers on the press (and socials). Why are we such a subservient nation? It's the reason we still abide a monarchy (a monarchy! In 2020! people better than you because their great, great, great grandfather killed some folks and held more land than you...).

Take France for example. The government has going to raise the pension age by two years to 62 (still waaaaay lower than ours). Riots on the streets last year, things burned all sorts, its now reversed. Our pension age continually raised (and weakened) - nothing.

Boris throwing small businesses (and the entire arts industry) under a bus yesterday, nothing. Apart from him trying to support his mates in insurance above everyone else. France; bit of kick off, Macron has halted utility payments, rent/mortgage payments for those affected, pledged billions to support struggling businesses.

Embarrasing. A nation of serfs. The Victorian attitude lives on!

Best you leave then mate .

Or best we start questioning and demanding more from those we pay (we pay them remember) to look after us? Maybe that? Rather than a ridiculous nationalistic nonsense 'best you leave mate'. If you ave an elderly relative die because this government assumed it knew better than just about every country/scientist in the world and did the exact opposite, only to then realise that actually they were right, will you then be angry at them? Or still back them and 'they must know best', good old tories, etc?

Honest question.

[ffcne]

No mention of the U-turn the government has done from last weeks policy of, basically, 'your nan is gonna die lol'? It's now come out that that would have caused approx. 250k unnecessary deaths but will now only result in 10s of thousands (they let it run all weekend).

And to think, people that pulled them up on it were jumped on by the boot lickers on the press (and socials). Why are we such a subservient nation? It's the reason we still abide a monarchy (a monarchy! In 2020! people better than you because their great, great, great grandfather killed some folks and held more land than you...).

Take France for example. The government has going to raise the pension age by two years to 62 (still waaaaay lower than ours). Riots on the streets last year, things burned all sorts, its now reversed. Our pension age continually raised (and weakened) - nothing.

Boris throwing small businesses (and the entire arts industry) under a bus yesterday, nothing. Apart from him trying to support his mates in insurance above everyone else. France; bit of kick off, Macron has halted utility payments, rent/mortgage payments for those affected, pledged billions to support struggling businesses.

Embarrasing. A nation of serfs. The Victorian attitude lives on!

Best you leave then mate .

Or best we start questioning and demanding more from those we pay (we pay them remember) to look after us? Maybe that? Rather than a ridiculous nationalistic nonsense 'best you leave mate'. If you ave an elderly relative die because this government assumed it knew better than just about every country/scientist in the world and did the exact opposite, only to then realise that actually they were right, will you then be angry at them? Or still back them and 'they must know best', good old tories, etc?

Honest question.

What is nationalistic about that.?
Damned if they do ,damned if they dont.
My work has disappeared  i am self employed and work in exhibition freight worldwide.
But not blaming anyone .
Would your mate Corbyn have done better?
Get over it mate you lost.

[Tabby]

There are a lot of people who can't deal with losing two weeks of wages for quarantine due to rent, food and utilities. Any attempt at getting people to self-quarantine under those circumstances is ridiculous.

There needs to be either a freeze in payment of rent and utilities or a financial support for those that need it.

[ByTheRiver]

No mention of the U-turn the government has done from last weeks policy of, basically, 'your nan is gonna die lol'? It's now come out that that would have caused approx. 250k unnecessary deaths but will now only result in 10s of thousands (they let it run all weekend).

And to think, people that pulled them up on it were jumped on by the boot lickers on the press (and socials). Why are we such a subservient nation? It's the reason we still abide a monarchy (a monarchy! In 2020! people better than you because their great, great, great grandfather killed some folks and held more land than you...).

Take France for example. The government has going to raise the pension age by two years to 62 (still waaaaay lower than ours). Riots on the streets last year, things burned all sorts, its now reversed. Our pension age continually raised (and weakened) - nothing.

Boris throwing small businesses (and the entire arts industry) under a bus yesterday, nothing. Apart from him trying to support his mates in insurance above everyone else. France; bit of kick off, Macron has halted utility payments, rent/mortgage payments for those affected, pledged billions to support struggling businesses.

Embarrasing. A nation of serfs. The Victorian attitude lives on!

Best you leave then mate .

Or best we start questioning and demanding more from those we pay (we pay them remember) to look after us? Maybe that? Rather than a ridiculous nationalistic nonsense 'best you leave mate'. If you ave an elderly relative die because this government assumed it knew better than just about every country/scientist in the world and did the exact opposite, only to then realise that actually they were right, will you then be angry at them? Or still back them and 'they must know best', good old tories, etc?

Honest question.

What is nationalistic about that.?
Damned if they do ,damned if they dont.
My work has disappeared  i am self employed and work in exhibition freight worldwide.
But not blaming anyone .
Would your mate Corbyn have done better?
Get over it mate you lost.

It's not about winning or losing, mate. We all lost. It's just taking time for others (the so called 'winners') to realise that. Which some now are.

To be clear, I am far from Corbyn's biggest fan. But he was the lesser of two evils. Given the situation you've outline above I'm staggered you didn't vote in your interests (and I'm truly sorry that this covid nonsense will be affecting you adversely). But the Tory party have never, ever, at any point in history had anyone other than their rich benefactors in mind/heart. Anyone who is not a multi-millionaire (literally, not just 1m house and a nice car) should not be voting for them. Sad that it will take something like this, and their priorities to be apparent, for folk to see.

It's not damned if you do, dmaned if you don't. He has willfully backed large insurance companies, against small business and self employed. After the statement yesterday 'don't go to pubs,restaurants, theatres, etc, but we're not actually closing them (so they can claim insurance)', how many do you think will survive even a few weeks? What will be left? And the people who have worked tirelessy for years to build up their business. Awful.

[Tabby]

Get over it mate you lost.

Have people's minds been so poisoned by Brexit that you're not allowed to criticise government anymore?

[ByTheRiver]

There are a lot of people who can't deal with losing two weeks of wages for quarantine due to rent, food and utilities. Any attempt at getting people to self-quarantine under those circumstances is ridiculous.

There needs to be either a freeze in payment of rent and utilities or a financial support for those that need it.

100%. A huge amount of people live month to month, overdraft, whatever. Especially with the current push (again from a certain political party but I'll leave it) toward zero hour contracts, less rights, etc. That financial support is being given around Europe, most other countries, our government has done the opposite (and still people - even here - are defending them! Beggars belief!).

[ByTheRiver]

Get over it mate you lost.

Have people's minds been so poisoned by Brexit that you're not allowed to criticise government anymore?

Apparently so. And it's seemingly quite widespread. Politics reduced to tribal football type following. Worrying times. More worrying than Covid-19 if I'm honest.

[fulhamben]

There are a lot of people who can't deal with losing two weeks of wages for quarantine due to rent, food and utilities. Any attempt at getting people to self-quarantine under those circumstances is ridiculous.

There needs to be either a freeze in payment of rent and utilities or a financial support for those that need it.

100%. A huge amount of people live month to month, overdraft, whatever. Especially with the current push (again from a certain political party but I'll leave it) toward zero hour contracts, less rights, etc. That financial support is being given around Europe, most other countries, our government has done the opposite (and still people - even here - are defending them! Beggars belief!).

less rights, can you name one that has changed. Pretty sure we are above the Eu recommendation on every single one

[fulhamben]

Get over it mate you lost.

Have people's minds been so poisoned by Brexit that you're not allowed to criticise government anymore?

Apparently so. And it's seemingly quite widespread. Politics reduced to tribal football type following. Worrying times. More worrying than Covid-19 if I'm honest.

its what happens when a large amount of people can not accept results of ref and ge's. hell there's a few demanding that corbyn 😂 be installed as an emergency pm to get us through this pandemic.

[ByTheRiver]

Get over it mate you lost.

Have people's minds been so poisoned by Brexit that you're not allowed to criticise government anymore?

Apparently so. And it's seemingly quite widespread. Politics reduced to tribal football type following. Worrying times. More worrying than Covid-19 if I'm honest.

And actually, it's worse, as it's from the press too. On Twitter, there were loads of journalists (I'm sure you can guess the publications) jumping on/ridiculing anyone who dare question the government (when they were doing the opposite of the rest of the world/world health organization suggested).


Fast forward the weekend and, lo and behold, it wasn't that the entire world was wrong, it was in fact us who were wrong. And then STILL in this very thread, you're jumped on and asked to leave the country if you then question the fact that they have risked (and likely killed, given three more days of full movement) thousands of our lives.

It really is madness what has happened to this country. People so polarised. Desperate to appear to have 'won' rather than actually have a safe/better life. I give up!

[ffcne]

Get over it mate you lost.

Have people's minds been so poisoned by Brexit that you're not allowed to criticise government anymore?

Works both ways .
As shown before  left wingers like to dish it out but cant take it back.
The left and Momentum created this hatred in politics.
The politics of envy

[ByTheRiver]

There are a lot of people who can't deal with losing two weeks of wages for quarantine due to rent, food and utilities. Any attempt at getting people to self-quarantine under those circumstances is ridiculous.

There needs to be either a freeze in payment of rent and utilities or a financial support for those that need it.

100%. A huge amount of people live month to month, overdraft, whatever. Especially with the current push (again from a certain political party but I'll leave it) toward zero hour contracts, less rights, etc. That financial support is being given around Europe, most other countries, our government has done the opposite (and still people - even here - are defending them! Beggars belief!).

less rights, can you name one that has changed. Pretty sure we are above the Eu recommendation on every single one

You've not be following have you? Less rights is literally the reason Brexit was put forward. The EU intervened to stop certain rights being lessened (do some Googling, find out for yourself) hence the referendum. Wait until Brexit actually happens and you willsee us far far below the rights you have become used to.

[fulhamfan]

Corbyn getting blamed by brexit supporting twats for COVID 19 and hes not even in power

[ByTheRiver]

Corbyn getting blamed by brexit supporting twats for COVID 19 and hes not even in power

Yep. Honestly, you couldn't make it up. A nation of idiots. Supporting the very people booting them in the ribs and attacking (as ordered/coordinated by years of press nonsense) those who want to help change their situation for the better.

I'd laugh it wasn't all so tragic.

[fulhamben]

There are a lot of people who can't deal with losing two weeks of wages for quarantine due to rent, food and utilities. Any attempt at getting people to self-quarantine under those circumstances is ridiculous.

There needs to be either a freeze in payment of rent and utilities or a financial support for those that need it.

100%. A huge amount of people live month to month, overdraft, whatever. Especially with the current push (again from a certain political party but I'll leave it) toward zero hour contracts, less rights, etc. That financial support is being given around Europe, most other countries, our government has done the opposite (and still people - even here - are defending them! Beggars belief!).

less rights, can you name one that has changed. Pretty sure we are above the Eu recommendation on every single one

You've not be following have you? Less rights is literally the reason Brexit was put forward. The EU intervened to stop certain rights being lessened (do some Googling, find out for yourself) hence the referendum. Wait until Brexit actually happens and you willsee us far far below the rights you have become used to.

and yet we didn't lower any even when we could, let's hope you can still get enough tin foil to keep making your hats

[MikeTheCubed]

Corbyn getting blamed by brexit supporting twats for COVID 19 and hes not even in power

Yep. Honestly, you couldn't make it up. A nation of idiots. Supporting the very people booting them in the ribs and attacking (as ordered/coordinated by years of press nonsense) those who want to help change their situation for the better.

I'd laugh it wasn't all so tragic.

Where on this forum has anyone blamed Corbyn for COVID-19? 

[ByTheRiver]

There are a lot of people who can't deal with losing two weeks of wages for quarantine due to rent, food and utilities. Any attempt at getting people to self-quarantine under those circumstances is ridiculous.

There needs to be either a freeze in payment of rent and utilities or a financial support for those that need it.

100%. A huge amount of people live month to month, overdraft, whatever. Especially with the current push (again from a certain political party but I'll leave it) toward zero hour contracts, less rights, etc. That financial support is being given around Europe, most other countries, our government has done the opposite (and still people - even here - are defending them! Beggars belief!).

less rights, can you name one that has changed. Pretty sure we are above the Eu recommendation on every single one

You've not be following have you? Less rights is literally the reason Brexit was put forward. The EU intervened to stop certain rights being lessened (do some Googling, find out for yourself) hence the referendum. Wait until Brexit actually happens and you willsee us far far below the rights you have become used to.

and yet we didn't lower any even when we could, let's hope you can still get enough tin foil to keep making your hats

You know we haven't actually left the EU yet, right?