No way Parker survives this

[ByTheRiver]

TBF - this was mission impossible. Third team up, lockdown ...

Leeds managed to bring in a top international CB and a top international striker in roughly the same timeframe and had them in early enough to get bedded in before a ball was kicked.

Let's not make excuses. Let's examine the issue.

[LittleErn]

The gap between the Championship and the Premier League is vast and increasing every year.
The first year, and arguably the second for most promoted clubs, is about one thing - survival against superior teams, with superior players. It is impossible to survive without being super defensively focused out of possession and without pace on the counter.
That is why we will never survive with our current modus operandi.
Change the manager if you want but the lack of knowledge about what is required is far far higher than that.


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[Woolly Mammoth]

Fulham Ben, you need to relax and take a deep breath.
They all need to get out on that training ground ASAP and work it out there, not listen to you and your anti Parker rants which are unnecessary and Toxic and solves nothing.
It is clearly going take more time than we would like, all you are saying is get rid of somebody because you are allowing your personal feelings to cloud your judgement.
Without telling us what your solution is, because you haven't one. You cannot keep sacking managers without having a solution.
The system of play may need to be tweaked, but it's on the training ground where it will be resolved, not having a rant like you are without saying what your alternative is, because you haven't got one.
It is not going to be resolved overnight, there were many new players on that pitch and whether you like it or not patience is a virtue.
If you are going coat the manager, you are coating all the players as well, so why don't you sack everyone then.
I am fed up reading about games we should win and games we have no chance.
To survive we have to try and pick up points whoever we play, and we will. But lots of hard work and belief is going to be needed.
The good news is we have to play all these teams again when we are a stronger and more consolidated unit where we can return all the compliments.

[colinwhite]

Fulham Ben, you need to relax and take a deep breath.
They all need to get out on that training ground ASAP and work it out there, not listen to you and your anti Parker rants which are unnecessary and Toxic and solves nothing.
It is clearly going take more time than we would like, all you are saying is get rid of somebody because you are allowing your personal feelings to cloud your judgement.
Without telling us what your solution is, because you haven't one. You cannot keep sacking managers without having a solution.
The system of play may need to be tweaked, but it's on the training ground where it will be resolved, not having a rant like you are without saying what your alternative is, because you haven't got one.
It is not going to be resolved overnight, there were many new players on that pitch and whether you like it or not patience is a virtue.
If you are going coat the manager, you are coating all the players as well, so why don't you sack everyone then.
I am fed up reading about games we should win and games we have no chance.
To survive we have to try and pick up points whoever we play, and we will. But lots of hard work and belief is going to be needed.
The good news is we have to play all these teams again when we are a stronger and more consolidated unit where we can return all the compliments.

Agree. Its anew team and will take time .First half decent apart from defensive mistakes. Biggest disappointment for me was Loftus cheek who did virtually nothing to affaect the play. Palace took their chances wedid not.

[Caedal]

I think everyone can agree that these tactics which barely worked in the Championship absolutely do not work in the premier league. It's too slow and easy to play against. We have been too reliant on players scoring worldies to score (just watch our top goals from last season video).

I also personally do not think Parker's constant negativity and emphasising that we're going to lose games in every single news conference is helpful at all. You don't hear any other manager doing that. There has been so many "upset" results this season around the league that we should be going into every game thinking we can get something.

I actually think the players we've brought in are good, but we really made a mistake not heavily targeting Watkins and/or Wilson. Mitro is just too 1 dimensional. We need at the bare minimum to bring in a defensive specialist coach

[fulhamben]

Fulham Ben, you need to relax and take a deep breath.
They all need to get out on that training ground ASAP and work it out there, not listen to you and your anti Parker rants which are unnecessary and Toxic and solves nothing.
It is clearly going take more time than we would like, all you are saying is get rid of somebody because you are allowing your personal feelings to cloud your judgement.
Without telling us what your solution is, because you haven't one. You cannot keep sacking managers without having a solution.
The system of play may need to be tweaked, but it's on the training ground where it will be resolved, not having a rant like you are without saying what your alternative is, because you haven't got one.
It is not going to be resolved overnight, there were many new players on that pitch and whether you like it or not patience is a virtue.
If you are going coat the manager, you are coating all the players as well, so why don't you sack everyone then.
I am fed up reading about games we should win and games we have no chance.
To survive we have to try and pick up points whoever we play, and we will. But lots of hard work and belief is going to be needed.
The good news is we have to play all these teams again when we are a stronger and more consolidated unit where we can return all the compliments.

so are you saying that they haven't been on the training ground trying to work things out? Seems a bit silly to say that woolly. And yes I've been saying for over a year what we need to do, and that's change the manager. How bad do things have to get before you wake up. It's now our worst start in our entire history. I think it's you that is letting personal feelings cloud your judgement. If our manager was Sanchez and he had this diabolical start, you would be screaming for his head. I'm under no illusion that no manager in the world could rectify what Parker has done, but an avarage manger should at least get us to 12 points to avoid the derby embarrassment, Parker won't

[Mr K.Dilkington]

If the tactics were better today i do feel we could've won,but mitrovic was awful. the amount of possession we have and do nothing with is criminal

[Mince n Tatties]

Wise words from the Woolly one.🦉

[fulhamben]

If the tactics were better today i do feel we could've won,but mitrovic was awful. the amount of possession we have and do nothing with is criminal

thats Parker ball for you. Apparently we just need another 10 to 20 games on top of the 60 we've already tried it with for it to not be as crap.

[rebel]

He's still not learned that Parkerball is ineffective and makes us so easy to defend against, and clearly can't coach basic defending either. Doesn't help that Mitro currently looks like a league 2 player though

Agree 100%, the big problem is the players look beaten, there isn't a bounce in their step. All Kamara's 'good qualities' has been 'coached' out of him, he looks a 'shadow' of himself. This has the 'feel' of 2018.

[joef]

Sadly I don't imagine many would want the job. I have no doubt that Scott being fired is inevitable at some point this half of the season. It's a long remainder of the season to be a whipping boy and take all the flack for what's gone before. Who would want that job and believe they could turn this around?

[rebel]

I think everyone can agree that these tactics which barely worked in the Championship absolutely do not work in the premier league. It's too slow and easy to play against. We have been too reliant on players scoring worldies to score (just watch our top goals from last season video).

I also personally do not think Parker's constant negativity and emphasising that we're going to lose games in every single news conference is helpful at all. You don't hear any other manager doing that. There has been so many "upset" results this season around the league that we should be going into every game thinking we can get something.

I actually think the players we've brought in are good, but we really made a mistake not heavily targeting Watkins and/or Wilson. Mitro is just too 1 dimensional. We need at the bare minimum to bring in a defensive specialist coach

The worrying thing is that Parker can't see it. The only time this season we've played anything like our potential is when we were 4 - 1 down against Leeds, we were direct and playing with urgency. And against Sheff Utd after we went 1 - 0 up.

[rebel]

Sadly I don't imagine many would want the job. I have no doubt that Scott being fired is inevitable at some point this half of the season. It's a long remainder of the season to be a whipping boy and take all the flack for what's gone before. Who would want that job and believe they could turn this around?

I'd bring back SJ.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Fulham Ben, you need to relax and take a deep breath.
They all need to get out on that training ground ASAP and work it out there, not listen to you and your anti Parker rants which are unnecessary and Toxic and solves nothing.
It is clearly going take more time than we would like, all you are saying is get rid of somebody because you are allowing your personal feelings to cloud your judgement.
Without telling us what your solution is, because you haven't one. You cannot keep sacking managers without having a solution.
The system of play may need to be tweaked, but it's on the training ground where it will be resolved, not having a rant like you are without saying what your alternative is, because you haven't got one.
It is not going to be resolved overnight, there were many new players on that pitch and whether you like it or not patience is a virtue.
If you are going coat the manager, you are coating all the players as well, so why don't you sack everyone then.
I am fed up reading about games we should win and games we have no chance.
To survive we have to try and pick up points whoever we play, and we will. But lots of hard work and belief is going to be needed.
The good news is we have to play all these teams again when we are a stronger and more consolidated unit where we can return all the compliments.

so are you saying that they haven't been on the training ground trying to work things out? Seems a bit silly to say that woolly. And yes I've been saying for over a year what we need to do, and that's change the manager. How bad do things have to get before you wake up. It's now our worst start in our entire history. I think it's you that is letting personal feelings cloud your judgement. If our manager was Sanchez and he had this diabolical start, you would be screaming for his head. I'm under no illusion that no manager in the world could rectify what Parker has done, but an avarage manger should at least get us to 12 points to avoid the derby embarrassment, Parker won't

We shall more than double those 12 points before the season is out, we have the players on the books, minus another striker.
What will say is that we may need to think of who plays up front or at least rearrange the offensive system of play with different personnel, unfortunately we are short of attacking alternatives thanks to the incompetence of the part time D of F who is the one you should be targeting if you really are looking for somebody to fire.
If Zaha had not been on that pitch there would have been a different result I am sure of that, but he was and we could not contain him. But he won't be playing for Albion in our next match. What you must bear in mind is that this is a massive jump for Fulham to establish ourselves on this Division, taking into account of so many new additions on top of that, we were always going to be in other clubs slipstreams to begin with.
But when we turn the corner, and with the good habits we would have established, that will stand us in good stead.

[LittleErn]

I think everyone can agree that these tactics which barely worked in the Championship absolutely do not work in the premier league. It's too slow and easy to play against. We have been too reliant on players scoring worldies to score (just watch our top goals from last season video).

I also personally do not think Parker's constant negativity and emphasising that we're going to lose games in every single news conference is helpful at all. You don't hear any other manager doing that. There has been so many "upset" results this season around the league that we should be going into every game thinking we can get something.

I actually think the players we've brought in are good, but we really made a mistake not heavily targeting Watkins and/or Wilson. Mitro is just too 1 dimensional. We need at the bare minimum to bring in a defensive specialist coach

I agree on all these points. I just hope that Parker isn't too stubborn to make changes to our style of play. He deserves the chance though.

[sarnian]

TBF - this was mission impossible. Third team up, lockdown ...

Leeds managed to bring in a top international CB and a top international striker in roughly the same timeframe and had them in early enough to get bedded in before a ball was kicked.

Let's not make excuses. Let's examine the issue.

Leeds we're actually promoted on 15 July so had almost 3 weeks start in the transfer market. Leeds already had a strong physical side in place which is something we did not and still do not have.

[Statto]

TBF - this was mission impossible. Third team up, lockdown ...

Leeds managed to bring in a top international CB and a top international striker in roughly the same timeframe and had them in early enough to get bedded in before a ball was kicked.

Let's not make excuses. Let's examine the issue.

Leeds we're actually promoted on 15 July so had almost 3 weeks start in the transfer market. Leeds already had a strong physical side in place which is something we did not and still do not have.

I'm sure if we were a well run club, it would have crossed someone's mind in late July that there was a chance we might get promoted and that we should prepare for that by identifying some potential upgrades to sign in the event that promotion materialised

I appreciate that TK's knowledge of English football is still very limited but given this was our second promotion via the play-offs, he ought to have understood how they worked

[WindyCity]

We look like a decent team that needs another quality forward and a couple more weeks getting to know each other. Those things are on TK, not Parker.

I agree, this is not SP's death knell.  Not yet anyway.  I still don't like the way this team is playing.  We've seen point gathering chances during this early stretch of games and have come up basically empty.  But I think SP still has some breathing room. 

[WolverineFFC]

TBF - this was mission impossible. Third team up, lockdown ...

Leeds managed to bring in a top international CB and a top international striker in roughly the same timeframe and had them in early enough to get bedded in before a ball was kicked.

Let's not make excuses. Let's examine the issue.

Leeds we're actually promoted on 15 July so had almost 3 weeks start in the transfer market. Leeds already had a strong physical side in place which is something we did not and still do not have.

I'm sure if we were a well run club, it would have crossed someone's mind in late July that there was a chance we might get promoted and that we should prepare for that by identifying some potential upgrades to sign in the event that promotion materialised

I appreciate that TK's knowledge of English football is still very limited but given this was our second promotion via the play-offs, he ought to have understood how they worked

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[ByTheRiver]

TBF - this was mission impossible. Third team up, lockdown ...

Leeds managed to bring in a top international CB and a top international striker in roughly the same timeframe and had them in early enough to get bedded in before a ball was kicked.

Let's not make excuses. Let's examine the issue.

Leeds we're actually promoted on 15 July so had almost 3 weeks start in the transfer market. Leeds already had a strong physical side in place which is something we did not and still do not have.

I'm sure if we were a well run club, it would have crossed someone's mind in late July that there was a chance we might get promoted and that we should prepare for that by identifying some potential upgrades to sign in the event that promotion materialised

I appreciate that TK's knowledge of English football is still very limited but given this was our second promotion via the play-offs, he ought to have understood how they worked

Nail, hammer, head, with gusto.