Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

[Twig]

I dont really want to see Mitrovic lumbering around injured and unfit huffing and puffing

That ship has sailed

Absolutely agree.

[bencher]

Mitro coming back? Who would welcome him? I  would.

It's true. I didn't want to post anything on it to protect the innocent, but now that it's out there I heard at BHA this past weekend someone at an unnamed club in "scouting" said specifically that Mitro wants to come back.

Whether it happens or not I don't know, but if he's keen to make it happen, you would have to think it's a real possibility.

I don't know whether it was in the context of Muniz leaving or not though

I like Raul and Muniz, but Mitro at his best is a cut above both of them. But he turns 31 in a few weeks, so we should not be spending money on transfer fees for him. Perhaps a season long loan could suit everyone.

[JimmyConway]

Mitro coming back? Who would welcome him? I  would.

I'd welcome Darren Bent back as it stands!!


I'll get my coat?

[SerbianLad]

Setting the frame.

If you go in that level, you can often set the expectation of a lower ceiling to negotiation. If we go in at 1m, they very well might say - no - nothing under 2m (purely for example). Whereas if you go in as we have, you might well pick him up for closer to that just shy of 1m range who knows.

It's a game, and all money saved is money saved. Especially in a business where club record fees are going elswhere reportedly, with that selling club squeezing us high as possible. And as mentioned it's only £20k off of what they sold another striker a similar age for, not long ago. That player had very comparable stats. So regardless of what their situation at the time was, it's not like it's really an absurd completely out-of-pocket suggestion.

Meanwhile Atlanta reportedly offered 25.8m at first for Muniz...that was never getting accepted in a million years either, a silly offer for a young prem striker with his goals to mins ratio. That's the game and many clubs with any sense try their luck. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Based on Serbian Lad's comments we seem to have offered about a quarter of what the lad is worth. I've no idea if the reports are true but if so, it's more like Atalanta making an opening bid of £8-10m for Muniz. I don't think that resets the frame, it just undermines the offeror's credibility at the outset and for the rest of the negotiations.

Speaking objectively here, Dusan Jovanovic is valued at 500k euros on transfermarkt.com so we went in at roughly half his valuation. Seems fine to me.

And by that logic Muniz is worth 20 million, so Angus' point stands.

[Rambler]

Sporting now in for Kevin.

This feels familiar...

[KentFulham]

Sporting now in for Kevin.

This feels familiar...

It does, Fulham do the leg work on getting a valuation in place between Fulham and said club, Fulham offer lower and hold out for a small saving, only for another club to waltz in and pay the asking price. We are becoming the bidding agents for other clubs!

[SP]

I dont really want to see Mitrovic lumbering around injured and unfit huffing and puffing

That ship has sailed

Absolutely agree.

Seconded. QPR now more his level IMO.

[flyingfish]

Sporting now in for Kevin.

This feels familiar...

Are you loving joking?

[hopper]

Serbian media seem to be hugely unimpressed with our offer.

I know we like to drive a hard bargain, but seems like we have a bit of a habit of taking the piss which isn't a good look.

[FFC1987]

Setting the frame.

If you go in that level, you can often set the expectation of a lower ceiling to negotiation. If we go in at 1m, they very well might say - no - nothing under 2m (purely for example). Whereas if you go in as we have, you might well pick him up for closer to that just shy of 1m range who knows.

It's a game, and all money saved is money saved. Especially in a business where club record fees are going elswhere reportedly, with that selling club squeezing us high as possible. And as mentioned it's only £20k off of what they sold another striker a similar age for, not long ago. That player had very comparable stats. So regardless of what their situation at the time was, it's not like it's really an absurd completely out-of-pocket suggestion.

Meanwhile Atlanta reportedly offered 25.8m at first for Muniz...that was never getting accepted in a million years either, a silly offer for a young prem striker with his goals to mins ratio. That's the game and many clubs with any sense try their luck. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Based on Serbian Lad's comments we seem to have offered about a quarter of what the lad is worth. I've no idea if the reports are true but if so, it's more like Atalanta making an opening bid of £8-10m for Muniz. I don't think that resets the frame, it just undermines the offeror's credibility at the outset and for the rest of the negotiations.

Speaking objectively here, Dusan Jovanovic is valued at 500k euros on transfermarkt.com so we went in at roughly half his valuation. Seems fine to me.

And by that logic Muniz is worth 20 million, so Angus' point stands.

Whoosh!

[iansthailand]

If Mitro is getting the reported 25 million to buy out his contract he can afford to pay us to play.

[General]

Out of interest has anyone paid attention to whether TK has shown any interest in anything fulham related on Socials this summer window? I had a precursory look at his twitter account and it's all wrestling stuff.

Says it all doesn't it.

Maybe he's just letting the football people get on with football people stuff.

He's the co-owner of the football club, the statistician behind transfers, and director of Football.. everything implies he has positioned himself to be integral to the football people group operating.

That may well be the case but in this modern day of telephones etc TK doesn't have to be in the country to be aware of what is going on with recruitment. I'm sure MS is involved as much as he needs to be as and when required and the recruitment team are doing all they can to make things happen given whatever financial restraints we are having to work to.

Noones disputing that necessarily, though it definitely helps. It's also important to know that in the 11 days left, of arguably the most important part of the year for his influence on the club, that his attention is on the club and ensuring it's operating properly and succeeding.

The main point was whether he was showing interest in the club or at least in a way which shows some balance re where his priorities lie.

Do you not think he had any involvement in the signings of Bassey, Leno, Andersen, ESR, Muniz, Raol, JP etc etc etc. TK doesn't stand on Hackney Marshes scouting players he doesn't need to be in the country to sign players. There is a scouting team who look at players and I'm sure the internet plays a big part in us looking at potential players. It makes no difference where a DoF is based players will be signed and the team will carry on.

He's quoted as having been excited on the end of each transfer announcement to have been able to bring them in.

I thought it was telling though last year that the actual owner and self-made billionaire shahid was at the ground and shown in videos when Sess had signed and TK was nowhere to be seen. SK was also doing videos about the Riverside and transfer window the year before at the top of the Riverside.

I'd actually guess that SK is more actively involved with that side of things. But none of us know and the more vocal/visually represented person is TK.

But this could be a civil servant and cabinet officer meeting example, where the civil servant permanent secret is quieter and holds more influence over things than a PM does.

[Deeping_white]

https://twitter.com/fulhamtransfer/status/1958135234630726019

[jayffc]

Setting the frame.

If you go in that level, you can often set the expectation of a lower ceiling to negotiation. If we go in at 1m, they very well might say - no - nothing under 2m (purely for example). Whereas if you go in as we have, you might well pick him up for closer to that just shy of 1m range who knows.

It's a game, and all money saved is money saved. Especially in a business where club record fees are going elswhere reportedly, with that selling club squeezing us high as possible. And as mentioned it's only £20k off of what they sold another striker a similar age for, not long ago. That player had very comparable stats. So regardless of what their situation at the time was, it's not like it's really an absurd completely out-of-pocket suggestion.

Meanwhile Atlanta reportedly offered 25.8m at first for Muniz...that was never getting accepted in a million years either, a silly offer for a young prem striker with his goals to mins ratio. That's the game and many clubs with any sense try their luck. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Based on comments we seem to have offered about a quarter of what the lad is worth. I've no idea if the reports are true but if so, it's more like Atalanta making an opening bid of £8-10m for Muniz. I don't think that resets the frame, it just undermines the offeror's credibility at the outset and for the rest of the negotiations.

Reality is we have "allegedly" made a bid only 20k under what they accepted for a striker who's record for them was very similar, at a very similar age, to a Serie A club, in the last 2 years.

So it's really not that deep.

They don't like the offer and think he's worth a bit more than the other kid? OK, The rest being added on by people is complete speculation either way. Comparing it to a hypothetical situation for an established and proven premier league player is hardly relevant here. They are in completely different points of their career. What he's "worth" at this stage for where he's at is far wider open for debate, as it's entirely based on perceived future potential. So until the 2 sides find some established position to work towards. We've gone low, they've stated their price, we do what we want from there. It's not like they've reportedly turned around and said - we're so outraged and insulted that we won't sell him to you at all. So the rest is just rage bait.

We're talking about an unproven youngster,the third choice youth striker in a serbian team. He might well turn out great, but the fact is they actually have sold a player of similar profile, who's record was pretty simlar at the time, for an amount very close to what we offered. So go figure, we tried our luck with something simalar to that.

[Tabby]

I think that the social media team realised that TK showing up at all is a net negative, irrespective of how involved he is. SK is not tarred by that brush however.

In AEW he is part of the product, so of course he is going to post about it. At Fulham he is tolerated at best.

[demeant0r]

Sporting now in for Kevin.

This feels familiar...

If it wasn't so tragic, I'd be laughing right now.

[SerbianLad]

Reality is we have "allegedly" made a bid only 20k under what they accepted for a striker who's record was very similar, at a very similar age, to a Serie A club in the last 2 years.

Vanja Vlahovic is not comparable to Jovanovic at all. Completely different players and a different situation at the club at the time, as Partizan was desperate to sell anyone at the time, as they were in finacial trouble. Why does Partizan feel outraged now and they were more than happy to sell Vlahovic for a similar price? You can't compare to players only by their age and club they play at...

We're talking about an unproven youngster,the third choice youth striker in a serbian team. He might well turn out great, but the fact is they've sold a player of similar profile who's record was pretty simlar, for an amount very close to what we offered.

He's third choice because they have two insanely talented striker in front of him. Jovan Milosevic, who is on loan from Stuttgart, was the top scorer at u17 EURO 2022. Andrej Kostic is a year younger than Jovanovic and he managed to score 4 in 4 so far this season.
 

[hopper]

https://twitter.com/fulhamtransfer/status/1958135234630726019

Absolutely fantastic news, especially as Miguel Delaney is a good journalist. Inline:

Fulham forward set to extend contract
Rodrigo Muniz is set to sign a new contract at Fulham, reports Miguel Delaney.

The Brazilian striker, who scored the late equaliser at Brighton last weekend to earn the Cottagers a point, was linked with a move to Atalanta.

But Muniz, after Fulham knocked back a £35m bid for the 23-year-old, is now set to remain at Craven Cottage for the foreseeable future.

[Slaphead in Qatar]

Sporting now in for Kevin.

This feels familiar...

where does it say that - i cannot find it online?

[jayffc]

Reality is we have "allegedly" made a bid only 20k under what they accepted for a striker who's record was very similar, at a very similar age, to a Serie A club in the last 2 years.

Vanja Vlahovic is not comparable to Jovanovic at all. Completely different players and a different situation at the club at the time, as Partizan was desperate to sell anyone at the time, as they were in finacial trouble. Why does Partizan feel outraged now and they were more than happy to sell Vlahovic for a similar price? You can't compare to players only by their age and club they play at...

We're talking about an unproven youngster,the third choice youth striker in a serbian team. He might well turn out great, but the fact is they've sold a player of similar profile who's record was pretty simlar, for an amount very close to what we offered.

He's third choice because they have two insanely talented striker in front of him. Jovan Milosevic, who is on loan from Stuttgart, was the top scorer at u17 EURO 2022. Andrej Kostic is a year younger than Jovanovic and he managed to score 4 in 4 so far this season.
 

I'm not saying he's not a decent prospect. Or that they are the same exact player profile, But he IS completely unproven, and his senior record is not overwhelming statistically at this stage. It's absolutely a reasonable benchmark for a club to make an offer close to one that that club accepted, for a player in the same position, and age, who statistically was making a similar output as a striker. These are absolutely perfectly reasonable standout comparisons for formulating a bid. Their financial situation at the tim,  or no,  isn't our business. They don't like the bid, theyre better off now so can turn it down, good for them, they tell us they want more, we give em more if we want to. Cool.

That you or they feel he's a better prospect than the last kid is fine. But their careers stats were similar and it's not like they're asking for multi-millions here, is it. They've said they don't want to accept below 1m. OK, if we think it's worth it , well go for it. Again, not like they've said f*** off we aren't doing business cos were so insulted, they've just set a price and will say what they need to publicly to strengthen their position like any club does. now we decide if we wanna reach it or not. Done