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[Mince n Tatties]

150 Romanians were flown into this country by charter plane yesterday to pick fruit and veg.
Couldn't they find 150 Virus free people from here,who would be glad of the money at this time to do it...Country is insane sometimes.

I heard they tried but no one here (or not enough) was prepared to put in the hours of back-breaking work.  A few years ago there was a TV programme on this point.  Of the few Brits who signed up for the work none turned up the 2nd day.

Nonsense... Whole lot of kids from my area in Suffolk wanted the work.

[South Coast White]

The main reason the brits dont want this work is the fact that the wages are so pitifull. Agreed it is quite physical work and long hours, but how about offering those out of work and on benefits, other than those currently being furloughed doing this work and allowing their benefits to remain unaffected. We should NOT be flying in workers from abroad at this time, its madness.

[Mince n Tatties]

The main reason the brits dont want this work is the fact that the wages are so pitifull. Agreed it is quite physical work and long hours, but how about offering those out of work and on benefits, other than those currently being furloughed doing this work and allowing their benefits to remain unaffected. We should NOT be flying in workers from abroad at this time, its madness.

Brits have applied, that's what makes it mind boggling at this time....

[Statto]

150 Romanians were flown into this country by charter plane yesterday to pick fruit and veg.
Couldn't they find 150 Virus free people from here,who would be glad of the money at this time to do it...Country is insane sometimes.

Number of COVID-19 deaths in Romania... 400
Number of COVID-19 deaths in UK... 14,576

I expect they, quite rightly, thought they'd a far better chance of getting "150 virus free people" by flying some in from Romania rather than by sourcing them from our own disease-riddled population

Bloody Romanians, coming over here and catching our diseases  :005:

[Twig]

150 Romanians were flown into this country by charter plane yesterday to pick fruit and veg.
Couldn't they find 150 Virus free people from here,who would be glad of the money at this time to do it...Country is insane sometimes.

Number of COVID-19 deaths in Romania... 400
Number of COVID-19 deaths in UK... 14,576

I expect they, quite rightly, thought they'd a far better chance of getting "150 virus free people" by flying some in from Romania rather than by sourcing them from our own disease-riddled population

Bloody Romanians, coming over here and catching our diseases  :005:

Lol

[filham]

If it is correct that Rumania has suffered only 400 Coronavirus deaths isn't it time someone asked the question why. It doesn't show up on those  official graphs we are being shown every evening at about 5pm.

[Neil D]

If it is correct that Rumania has suffered only 400 Coronavirus deaths isn't it time someone asked the question why. It doesn't show up on those  official graphs we are being shown every evening at about 5pm.

Their tests per million population at 4460  isn't too far behind the UK (6467).  Bloody foreigners - not knowing their place again.

[Southcoastffc]

The main reason the brits dont want this work is the fact that the wages are so pitifull. Agreed it is quite physical work and long hours, but how about offering those out of work and on benefits, other than those currently being furloughed doing this work and allowing their benefits to remain unaffected. We should NOT be flying in workers from abroad at this time, its madness.

Brits have applied, that's what makes it mind boggling at this time....

According to local growers, there is a need for experienced pickers to train/supervise novices. Also, pickers need to live very close by - I know one Brit living near Guildford who volunteered  but withdrew when told he'd have to move to Hampshire and stay in a caravan on site.

[Logicalman]

The main reason the brits dont want this work is the fact that the wages are so pitifull. Agreed it is quite physical work and long hours, but how about offering those out of work and on benefits, other than those currently being furloughed doing this work and allowing their benefits to remain unaffected. We should NOT be flying in workers from abroad at this time, its madness.

Brits have applied, that's what makes it mind boggling at this time....

According to local growers, there is a need for experienced pickers to train/supervise novices. Also, pickers need to live very close by - I know one Brit living near Guildford who volunteered  but withdrew when told he'd have to move to Hampshire and stay in a caravan on site.

I'm certain there's a few QPR fans out there willing to lend him theirs!

[Twig]

The main reason the brits dont want this work is the fact that the wages are so pitifull. Agreed it is quite physical work and long hours, but how about offering those out of work and on benefits, other than those currently being furloughed doing this work and allowing their benefits to remain unaffected. We should NOT be flying in workers from abroad at this time, its madness.

Brits have applied, that's what makes it mind boggling at this time....

According to local growers, there is a need for experienced pickers to train/supervise novices. Also, pickers need to live very close by - I know one Brit living near Guildford who volunteered  but withdrew when told he'd have to move to Hampshire and stay in a caravan on site.

My brother-in-law is a grower in Wisbech and it is absolutely correct that the pickers have to Either be locals or move to stay in local accommodation. There is an old army camp that is used by a lot of these seasonal workers.  If a British applicant were prepared to move then he sees no reason why they wouldn't be selected. But bear in mind that a lot of it is done on a piecework basis so unless you are reasonably quick and willing to graft Long hours you won't earn much.

[Holders]

Today's Sunday Times summarises what many of us have been saying for weeks.

[ffcthereligion]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

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[Southcoastffc]

The main reason the brits dont want this work is the fact that the wages are so pitifull. Agreed it is quite physical work and long hours, but how about offering those out of work and on benefits, other than those currently being furloughed doing this work and allowing their benefits to remain unaffected. We should NOT be flying in workers from abroad at this time, its madness.

Brits have applied, that's what makes it mind boggling at this time....

According to local growers, there is a need for experienced pickers to train/supervise novices. Also, pickers need to live very close by - I know one Brit living near Guildford who volunteered  but withdrew when told he'd have to move to Hampshire and stay in a caravan on site.

My brother-in-law is a grower in Wisbech and it is absolutely correct that the pickers have to Either be locals or move to stay in local accommodation. There is an old army camp that is used by a lot of these seasonal workers.  If a British applicant were prepared to move then he sees no reason why they wouldn't be selected. But bear in mind that a lot of it is done on a piecework basis so unless you are reasonably quick and willing to graft Long hours you won't earn much.

If anyone's really interested, the information is all here (and really well set out):

https://www.concordiavolunteers.org.uk/

[Holders]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

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Yes, that's one of several whereas some other posters have since done a volte-face.

[Statto]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

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Yes, that's one of several whereas some other posters have since done a volte-face.

Still think Andy S comment on the first page of this thread sums it up.

"If you are fit you will recover. If you're not you probably didn't have long left anyway."

[Neil D]

Today's Sunday Times summarises what many of us have been saying for weeks.

Indeed it does.  In an earlier post on this thread I got it badly wrong when I described Johnson as a 'showboater'.  Having read the feature, it is clear that he is, in fact, a bone idle showboater.  Mea culpa.

[Twig]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

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Yes, that's one of several whereas some other posters have since done a volte-face.

Still think Andy S comment on the first page of this thread sums it up.

"If you are fit you will recover. If you're not you probably didn't have long left anyway."

Sums it up, just incorrectly. Plenty of fit people and with no underlying problems have died and more will no doubt follow. A minority of the total, but a significant minority.

[ALG01]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

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I heard on BBC's more or less that the analysis shows that deaths follow the same patern as during any other period. the proportion of old and infirm is x% and those that are apparently fit and healthy but die anyway is y%. the same rough order of magnotude applies to this virus. so being fit and healthy is good but is not a 100% guarantee.

Yes, that's one of several whereas some other posters have since done a volte-face.

Still think Andy S comment on the first page of this thread sums it up.

"If you are fit you will recover. If you're not you probably didn't have long left anyway."

Sums it up, just incorrectly. Plenty of fit people and with no underlying problems have died and more will no doubt follow. A minority of the total, but a significant minority.

[FFC1987]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

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Yes, that's one of several whereas some other posters have since done a volte-face.

Still think Andy S comment on the first page of this thread sums it up.

"If you are fit you will recover. If you're not you probably didn't have long left anyway."

Sums it up, just incorrectly. Plenty of fit people and with no underlying problems have died and more will no doubt follow. A minority of the total, but a significant minority.

I seem to recall they always suggested there would be mortality rates of about 1% or less in the fit category didn't they? So the cases your suggesting are still in line I believe if the stats maintain.

[Statto]

It is bad flu and will be non-news by the end of the Month.

I like this comment

Yes, that's one of several whereas some other posters have since done a volte-face.

Still think Andy S comment on the first page of this thread sums it up.

"If you are fit you will recover. If you're not you probably didn't have long left anyway."

Sums it up, just incorrectly. Plenty of fit people and with no underlying problems have died and more will no doubt follow. A minority of the total, but a significant minority.

I seem to recall they always suggested there would be mortality rates of about 1% or less in the fit category didn't they? So the cases your suggesting are still in line I believe if the stats maintain.

1% is across all ages and backgrounds. Even at that level there's data suggesting it will be lower - 0.37% is the last I read (from antibodies testing of c. 1,000 people in a village in Germany). If you're healthy and under 40, the mortality rate will be much lower still,  almost certainly less than 0.1% (so less than 1 in 1,000) or perhaps even 0.01% (1 in 10,000).