What positions do you want us to sign before the 11pm deadline?
Who do you think will leave?
Who do you want us to sign?
Who do you think we will sign?
I think we need a striker if Rodallega goes who is a physical presence up front and creates chances but gets enough goals himself, someone similar to Matt Smith of Leeds or someone who plays similar to the way Kenwyne Jones played yesterday. I know it was very attractive but you need that physical presence in the Chanpionship to succeed. I also think we need a centre mid that is strong and creative, someone like Diame from West Ham. And I also think we need another wide player because I think we lack width and pace out wide, someone who will take on a man and deliver a cross, someone like Sako at Wolves. I think that we will lose Ruiz and Rodallega.
I hope whoever we sgn are fully fit and match fit.
Ruiz, amorebieta, hugo and kaca all sold.
Tunnicliffe, cole, trotta and mitroglou loaned out.
A winger, midfielder, target man striker brought in and maybe a centre half if the hudson rumours are true. Maybe two of them 4 will be signed in the extended loan window after the deadline.
We have a lot of players in our squad,23 have already made championship appearances , surely we have to sell before we can buy. This must mean any signings must be late in the day and we risk missing the deadline especially if medicals are involved.
Oh why is it always left so late.
Quote from: filham on August 31, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
We have a lot of players in our squad,23 have already made championship appearances , surely we have to sell before we can buy. This must mean any signings must be late in the day and we risk missing the deadline especially if medicals are involved.
Oh why is it always left so late.
It's left late because one transfer move triggers another move, it's called the domino effect. Now Mitroglou has gone and off the wages bill we can now go for someone we have hopefully lined up to replace him etc, etc.
I really cant tell who I think we will sign, because Felix has seen so incompetent regarding signings, not just in Fulham but other clubs as well.....
I really wish we had gone for a bit experienced CM, a creative one with some quality, most likely above 23-24 age....
But it is hard to say who or what position he will sign.....
I fully expect Mitro, Rodallega, Ruiz, tuni, Zvrotic, lovebite, and the kid on loan to Brentford last year to be gone. All the other kids had a shot, but it's clear these players are "losers" and not good enough for Fulham (though 1/2 of that lot played in the World Cup).
I also fully expect the sale of those "losers" to bring in a top class CM and CB.
I also fully expect to be gutted that our gaffer will keep anything close to the above from happening.
:54: I hope Rodders stays as he has Championship experience and even if used as a 'super-sub' will offer us something.
Midfield is still looking weak, although we do have a couple of youngsters / newby's who can slot in there.
I was a big Stockdale fan and to lose him and see him replaced by a 'veteran' is a concern.
But as others have posted, with FM in charge literally anyone could be coming to CC?
Lets cross our fingers and hope friends :) 049:gif
Would like to see another striker, especially since McCormack seems to like to drop deep/drift wide. We need a true poacher to finish some of the chances we are creating.
To be honest, I'm not sure how many of our want-away players will be jettisoned. I suspect a Amore and Roda are on wages that are too high for their level. I do think Ruiz will go, and it seem Mitro is already gone. I hope Kaca stays, as I think he could be a good winger at this level.
I suspect FM is looking to strength at CB and ST, so I expect on of both to come in. Matt Smith seems like a decent buy, would give as a target in the air, something we don't seem to have at the moment. Haven't heard much about possible CBs. Hopefully we can find one with Championship/Prem experience.
Rather than create multiple posts in the main Forum, please post any Fulham related deadline day transfer news here;
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Fc Copenhagen manager Ståle Solbakken, said a couple of hours ago that they where close getting Alexander Kacaniklic but he chose to go to Southampton on loan instead.
From Danish football page: http://www.bold.dk/nyt/avis-fck-var-taet-paa-kacaniklic (http://www.bold.dk/nyt/avis-fck-var-taet-paa-kacaniklic)
If I missed a post on this then merge or delete it.
I think the Championship is his level and he'd do a good job for us, but if he goes to Southampton then best of luck to him.
at least he'll gain some experience
Glenn Murray anyone??
Quote from: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 04:30:10 AM
Glenn Murray anyone??
Good suggestion.
If he can rediscover the goalscoring form he showed at Palace before his injury, he would obviously be an asset.
We lack size and brute power on offense. We have clever, good ball possession, smaller men who are getting stood up and shut down by the center backs of this league. We need a door knocker, a bull rusher, someone with a little nasty in him. A run you over kind of guy. In the middle up top, not on the wing. He's got to be a team player, not a Zamora sulker.
Someone who instills some fear and trepidation when he crosses the 18 with a head of steam.
But more than anything, we need the right kind of holding mid. I'm liking Hoogland, don't get me wrong. He works hard, covers a lot of ground, takes his chances and opportunities when they arise, and hurries back when possession is turned over. But he, too, is lacking in size. And his distribution is just OK. I'm not looking for great possession and dribbling skills from a holding mid. A few steps with the ball and then a quality pass. On defense, I want to see a great anticipator of the Next Pass. I want him to intercept and early. Slow the developing play, give his back line time to get in position. Stand the ball carrier up, shut down his forward progress, and go for the strip and quick transition pass. No quarter. A minimum of jockeying. And while being a tenacious force of nature, avoid the yellow. That's hard. But if we find that guy, think of the pressure we can put opposing defenses under.
I'm surprised he is going
he played well for us a few weeks ago. subbed and not seen again. typical felix.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on September 01, 2014, 06:54:06 AM
he played well for us a few weeks ago. subbed and not seen again. typical felix.
It was only a week ago at Derby he came on. I'm sure if he stays he will get the odd opportunity
I can't say I blame him for wanting more football though
Good luck. Think the guy is hopeless but if Koeman wants him there must be something good in him.
Under the right manager he could thrive, certainly a confidence player that a lot of talent but needs to mature and polish his game. I remember many people screaming at Routledge when he played for us and similarly QPR fans thinking they had got a good deal when they sold him to Swansea. Now look at him.
Never understood why he regressed so much. Loan spell for a bit, with, I assume, Southampton picking up some of his finances may build up his confidence and we retain him as our asset...so may be the best outcome. In the meantime we've cover, albeit mostly young, in our squad
I think he would be a good fit for Southampton. Can see him doing well there.
More of a bench player for them or back up. Wish him well though.
Can't believe we haven't announced a signing yet ;)
In all seriousness though, Matt Smith if the links are true would not be a bad option, we certainly need to score more goals as 3 from 5 league games is a very poor return. also think we are crying out for an experienced central midfielder who can pass.
I do not expect it but would love to have a signing today where we all go wow didnt see that coming and its a great signing.
admin can you move this to the post you created, didnt see it when i did mine, apologies
Why would we loan another experienced player out? What if Magath decides to play with wingers?! Who are we even left with?
We could do to use wingers and try keep McCormack central!
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
Why would we loan another experienced player out? What if Magath decides to play with wingers?! Who are we even left with?
We could do to use wingers and try keep McCormack central!
True enough. Even the Cardiff contingent next to us could not understand why the big 44 was out wide trying to get crosses in when the only place he has ever been any good is at the other end of aforementioned crosses. I suppose he opened up the midfield area for Parker to surge forward and that might work one day. Kaca was on the Cottage balcony signing autographs and doing the selfie thing whilst dangling over the edge when the other guests were doing the munchies at half time. Mid chocolate wafer Brian the Brain said "He's off then". I'll get six numbers off him at Reading..................
Get Matt Smith now. He was a great partner for McCormack. To be honest we do not really need any more players unless there is someone head & shoulders above who we already have. We have plenty of squad players.
Quote from: res on September 01, 2014, 09:08:33 AM
may build up his confidence and we retain him as our asset...
I think his contract only has no more than 18 months so if he does it will be for peanuts. good move for him.
must have more than that otherwise he would leave while the season was still in progress, it could end at the end of this season which i don't think it does.
I think he has at least this season and next with us
Quote from: ScalleysDad on September 01, 2014, 09:52:51 AM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
Why would we loan another experienced player out? What if Magath decides to play with wingers?! Who are we even left with?
We could do to use wingers and try keep McCormack central!
True enough. Even the Cardiff contingent next to us could not understand why the big 44 was out wide trying to get crosses in when the only place he has ever been any good is at the other end of aforementioned crosses. I suppose he opened up the midfield area for Parker to surge forward and that might work one day. Kaca was on the Cottage balcony signing autographs and doing the selfie thing whilst dangling over the edge when the other guests were doing the munchies at half time. Mid chocolate wafer Brian the Brain said "He's off then". I'll get six numbers off him at Reading..................
What about Hatem Ben Arfa he looked close to going to Birmingham so why don't we go in for him to play on the wing. He would be quite possibly a way to replace Dejagah and has brilliant skill, pace and has goals in him.
Apparently Ben Arfa doesn't want to or has refused to go to a championship club. Cheeky bid for a loan late on when he is desperate to play lol
Given Ben Arfa has a well publicised work ethic issue and overall attitude problem, I think theres very little chance in us signing him
Ben Arfa is extremely talented but a fat lazy lump. God knows why we're loaning out Kacaniklic. He could certainly do a job for us and has ample championship experience. If Southhampton, an upper premier league club, think he's good enough then he's good enough for us.
Someone on one of the BBC transfer deadline day forums thinks Scott Parker could be off to QPR today.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 31, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: filham on August 31, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
We have a lot of players in our squad,23 have already made championship appearances , surely we have to sell before we can buy. This must mean any signings must be late in the day and we risk missing the deadline especially if medicals are involved.
Oh why is it always left so late.
It's left late because one transfer move triggers another move, it's called the domino effect. Now Mitroglou has gone and off the wages bill we can now go for someone we have hopefully lined up to replace him etc, etc.
Oh dear ,the domino effect, let's hope we don't have a double blank in our hand.
Quote from: Southdowns White on September 01, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Someone on one of the BBC transfer deadline day forums thinks Scott Parker could be off to QPR today.
He still has 3 years remaining of a 4 year contract. I can only see this happening if we've got a younger, cheaper option lined up. If not, can't see it happening to be honest.
Only real updates so far is Matt Smith and Mark Hudson looking likely.
The one I really want to happen is MuGugan, cracking CM who can run with the ball and has a good goalscoring record.
if the rumours are true that Parker told FM where to go after the derby game (when the manager called a meeting upon arrival back to the cottage where he ordered them in to train the next day) then it would not surprise me. However they are just rumours and nothing substantial to back it up that i have seen.
Apart from Matt Smith & Lewis McGugan are there any rumours at all about in coming players.
Of course we need the ball playing midfielder with pace and the killer pass and a target man with strength in the air. We have been in need of these two for some time now, can't see them rushing to the Cottage at the moment.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: Southdowns White on September 01, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Someone on one of the BBC transfer deadline day forums thinks Scott Parker could be off to QPR today.
He still has 3 years remaining of a 4 year contract. I can only see this happening if we've got a younger, cheaper option lined up. If not, can't see it happening to be honest.
Don't be surprised - Magath does not want anyone who he has not signed. The bloke is control freak and wants the glory of returning Fulham to its former status under his team. We just need to work out if he is returning us to the quality of team under Hodgson, or the team under Branfoot.
Eleven hours 35 minutes to go , has Ruiz gone yet, how long does the medical take. Surely someone should have moved by now.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on September 01, 2014, 11:23:42 AM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: Southdowns White on September 01, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Someone on one of the BBC transfer deadline day forums thinks Scott Parker could be off to QPR today.
He still has 3 years remaining of a 4 year contract. I can only see this happening if we've got a younger, cheaper option lined up. If not, can't see it happening to be honest.
Don't be surprised - Magath does not want anyone who he has not signed. The bloke is control freak and wants the glory of returning Fulham to its former status under his team. We just need to work out if he is returning us to the quality of team under Hodgson, or the team under Branfoot.
Seems odd thing to say considering the team is made up of mainly youth/academy players and he did'nt sign any of them.
Leeds are reported to be close to signing Danny Graham
Palace close to signing MacCarthur from Wigan for 7 million.
Carlisle Sack manager
Holtby in Hamburg
Colchester manager leaves
This made me laugh alot. Now that is not having a transfer strategy
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Some fans expectations are silly, we are in the championship we have a smaller stadium than most and we are not selling out the cottage, we have to compete with mid table championship sides for players these days. I cant see any suprises maybe 1 or 2. I think Smith will be a decent signing, he is a big lad, 6'6 i think i saw. I cant imagine marking him to be too fun.
From sky sports live transfer oon the website....
11:35
There may be a few departures from Fulham this afternoon, with Sky Sports sources learning that they will attempt to offload Fernando Amorebieta, Bryan Ruiz and Hugo Rodallega. It is also understood that Alexander Kacaniklic is set to leave the club on-loan, and that Fulham are exploring a number of options to replace them.
Sky sports just posted this...
There may be a few departures from Fulham this afternoon, with Sky Sports sources learning that they will attempt to offload Fernando Amorebieta, Bryan Ruiz and Hugo Rodallega. It is also understood that Alexander Kacaniklic is set to leave the club on-loan, and that Fulham are exploring a number of options to replace them.
Quote from: filham on September 01, 2014, 11:25:02 AM
Eleven hours 35 minutes to go , has Ruiz gone yet, how long does the medical take. Surely someone should have moved by now.
If Ruiz is going to Turkey, as suspected, they have until September 6th to close the deal.
Jenas to Fulham on a 1 year deal - Free transfer being muted on Twitter...
Jermaine Jenas to FULHAM on a 1 year rolling contract - Rumour
jenas christ where is he these days
2 threads on same topic is getting confusing
Jenas wouldnt be a disaster, but I wouldnt want him replacing Hyndman / Ryan Williams in midfield. Only really makes sense if Parker is going
If we brought in today:
- Jenas
- Mugugan
- Hudson
- Smith
For me I would be very happy, thats a lot of championship experience and would push us on.
Round up of some business:
- Falcao on loan to United.
- Holtby on loan to Hamburg.
- George Boyd to Burnley for £3m.
- Everton linked with Matija Nastasic.
- Blackburn sign Shane Duffy.
- Defoe to be bought by Redknapp... Again.
- Javier Hernandez having a medical ahead of a loan to Real Madrid
- Southampton still interested in Redmond
- "Fee agreed" with West Ham for Mohamed Diame to move to Hull.
Leeds have approached Fulham about Rodders and Kaka =Rumour
I still don´t understand why clubs leave it till the last day to sign players. They have had all summer. It is not just the smaller clubs hoping to get players who no others want. It is the big spenders too.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 11:58:10 AM
Leeds have approached Fulham about Rodders and Kaka =Rumour
Could involve us getting Matt Smith if true.
Millwall have made a bid for Matt Smith...
leaving it late to get bargains i guess.
Not sure about Jenas singing if its true we want him
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
leaving it late to get bargains i guess.
Not sure about Jenas singing if its true we want him
He did ok for the Haha's last season.
Assume if we get him someone will go in the opposite direction...
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
leaving it late to get bargains i guess.
Not sure about Jenas singing if its true we want him
He did ok for the Haha's last season.
Assume if we get him someone will go in the opposite direction...
I cant even remember him playing for them, just spoke to a work colleague (QPR fan) he said waste of space for them and why he is on a free transfer now. Maybe harsh couldn't say myself not seen him play since he was at spurs. I just reemember not being overly impressed with him while he was there
DJ Cambell to Fulham or Brentford rumour
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 12:29:03 PM
DJ Cambell to Fulham or Brentford rumour
Please no, he has been useless at everyywhere he has been since playing for Blackpool in their Championship promotion season
The english players we are being linked with are those no other team wants, why is this, surely we have some cash we can spend
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
Jermaine Jenas to FULHAM on a 1 year rolling contract - Rumour
No!
No!
NO!
PLEASE NO!
Matt Smith would be our missing link. Would be magic with McCormack as they know eachother having played together. Good hold up player, just what we need.
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 12:42:48 PM
The english players we are being linked with are those no other team wants, why is this, surely we have some cash we can spend
We do this every damn window no matter who our owner or manager is. Mackintosh has been responsible for all our recent windows. Enough said.
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
Matt Smith would be our missing link. Would be magic with McCormack as they know eachother having played together. Good hold up player, just what we need.
Smith on the right wing to compliment McCormack in the left?
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
hat i have seen is they say for the youth team, cant see him leaving to go in another youth team ,he will stay or go to liverpool his childhood team.
I thought Matt Smith had just signed a 3 year extension in August.
Is that not the case?
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
hat i have seen is they say for the youth team, cant see him leaving to go in another youth team ,he will stay or go to liverpool his childhood team.
Simply begging that it's conjecture! Would hate to see him in a rangers shirt..
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Where on Twitter is all this.? Who is putting this up?
Just search his name on there. A lot from QPR fans etc.
Will be holding my breath regardless of their credibility!
From a Leeds forum.
YSMorientes wrote:
SiMamu wrote:
Apparently Fulham want Matt Smith and Mark Hudson because they were McCormack's best mates at Leeds and Cardiff, respectively.
Noel Hunt was good mates with McCormack too...
That's a mental way to choose what players to buy
And yet if they took Hunt for that reason, we'd still celebrate. :dead horse:
29 Aug 2014 22:14:14
Fulham are back in talks with the reps of Alvaro Gonzalez and Lazio are keen to sell the player.
Roberts to QPR is tosh and a rumour started by Fulham so we wouldn't be so upset that Parker is on his way to QPR while sicknote Jenas is his replacement.
Pure speculation on my part :033:
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Ignore it, rumor possibly started by the Ha Ha's to wind Fulham up. Why would he go to QPR when someone like Liverpool clearly want him?
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Ignore it, rumor possibly started by the Ha Ha's to wind Fulham up. Why would he go to QPR when someone like Liverpool clearly want him?
Started by this idiot;
Harry @thefulhamblog 5m
Hey @patrick7roberts, sorry for everyone tweeting you about QPR. My fault. They're w*** anyway.
10 hours to go. My sciatica is playing up just sitting here and waiting.
Leeds are haggling over price for Smith but deal looks likely - Rumour (deep sigh)
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 01:04:10 PM
Leeds are haggling over price for Smith but deal looks likely - Rumour (deep sigh)
Pay what they want. We can´t afford to miss out . Mackintosh, get the petty cash box out or use some of your ill gotten gains.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 01:04:10 PM
Leeds are haggling over price for Smith but deal looks likely - Rumour (deep sigh)
If Rodders goes, which now looks likely, we need a strong forward who is an aerial threat. Yes Matt Smith isn't any Alan Shearer, but he's a decent target man for this division and someone for McCormack to play off.
To be fair, Matt Smith is only 25 aswell so still has a good few years ahead of him. Cant say I recall every seeing him play, but obviously Ross knows him well so probably recommended him. We need a different option up front for McCormack to play off. He's wasted on the left
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 11:58:26 AM
I still don´t understand why clubs leave it till the last day to sign players. They have had all summer.
Clubs buy over the summer then spend the first few games reviewing what they have and what gaps need plugging. By the time they work that out, it is about half-way through August. The agents then delay everything as they hold out until the last possible minute trying to screw the clubs out of every last penny.
Just seen on twitter we have agreed £2.4 mill for Ben Amos. Rumour and only twatter but hopeful.
Quote from: Ols_S on September 01, 2014, 01:35:51 PM
Just seen on twitter we have agreed £2.4 mill for Ben Amos. Rumour and only twatter but hopeful.
Another keeper... that would be a huge surprise. I was hoping Bettinelli would get a run in the side
True. I'm more worried about keeping and then helping Parker in the middle
Matt Smith to Fulham - Deal is 50-50 according to a local Leeds Jorno.
Quote from: Joseffc on September 01, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
All over Twitter that Patrick Roberts will be signing for QPHa for £12million before the close of the deadline tonight!
Some rumours are designed to hurt, this one is just couldn't be worse.
Reports of a 2.4 million deal for United keeper Amos?
Another Goalie is really not needed. Know little about him but I think Bettinelli is good enough for us
Fergie used to rave about Amos saying how good he was. Not sure if to believe the rumour though given we signed Kiraly
Kaka could be on his way to Copenhagen and not Southampton for a loan move.
to lunch.
If PSV call then I'm sure he will be more than happy to sign up at half the price we bought him for.
Twitter saying we have agreed a £1M fee fr Matt Smith
1 million for Matt smith has been agreed
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
Kaka could be on his way to Copenhagen and not Southampton for a loan move.
Reports here in Sweden that Kaca turned down top clubs in Greece as well as a shorter loan deal at Southampton to join FCK on a season long loan.
As that was not enough he apparently also signed a one year contract extension with Fulham.
Side note - Gabbidon is returning to Cardiff as player/coach
Sinclair from City to Stoke on loan rumour. Not us then :005:
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
Kaka could be on his way to Copenhagen and not Southampton for a loan move.
Reports here in Sweden that Kaca turned down top clubs in Greece as well as a shorter loan deal at Southampton to join FCK on a season long loan.
As that was not enough he apparently also signed a one year contract extension with Fulham.
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I read the one year extension also. That is the oddest bit of Fulham news that I've read in some time. Just doesn't seem to make much sense for club or player.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:41:29 PM
Side note - Gabbidon is returning to Cardiff as player/coach
Sinclair from City to Stoke on loan rumour. Not us then :005:
You don't think Sinclair would be a good player for us? Curious.
a couple of years back i think Sinclair would have done great for us, two years of not playing have harmed him, he did not look good at West Brom last season
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
Kaka could be on his way to Copenhagen and not Southampton for a loan move.
Reports here in Sweden that Kaca turned down top clubs in Greece as well as a shorter loan deal at Southampton to join FCK on a season long loan.
As that was not enough he apparently also signed a one year contract extension with Fulham.
I read the one year extension also. That is the oddest bit of Fulham news that I've read in some time. Just doesn't seem to make much sense for club or player.[/quote]
I'd say that sums up the clubs strategy of late.
Strong Rumours - Malcomn Ellias the recruiting boss for youth development at fulham has walked out
Is there actually a rule against playing more than one keeper? I've never checked.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
Strong Rumours - Malcomn Ellias the recruiting boss for youth development at fulham has walked out
More damage done by Magath?
Rodders only striker with any pace linked to Levante.
Amo deal to Granada looks off.
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on September 01, 2014, 02:50:32 PM
Is there actually a rule against playing more than one keeper? I've never checked.
well u can field 11 goalies if you want but only 1 will be allowed to handle the ball :)
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
Strong Rumours - Malcomn Ellias the recruiting boss for youth development at fulham has walked out
Rumoured to have joined Stoke
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
Strong Rumours - Malcomn Ellias the recruiting boss for youth development at fulham has walked out
This better not turn out to be true.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
Strong Rumours - Malcomn Ellias the recruiting boss for youth development at fulham has walked out
Rumoured to have joined Stoke
WHY!?!
Why not? It's not as if our club hasn't already become a big enough joke.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
Strong Rumours - Malcomn Ellias the recruiting boss for youth development at fulham has walked out
Hasn't walked out, has chose to join Mark Hughes at Stoke, another false allegation just to make FFC look bad. It was down to choice, unfortunately happens when you become a Championship side, people jump ship.
Someone will take his place. No point in worrying. If he does not want to be with FFC, goodbye.
More on the Kaka to FC Copenhagen story. Was said to have verbally agreed to join Saints on loan yesterday but now changed mind.
Just to reiterate that these are rumours until they are not.
If both elias and Simmons left due to mcgath the club have to have a look at why, these guys are responsible for finding and recruitbg our current crop of youngsters
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 03:18:07 PM
If both elias and Simmons left due to mcgath the club have to have a look why this gigs are responsible for finding and recruitbg our current crop of youngsters
There is a thread on the youth academy on the second page where I asked one of our members about the setup. Seems we are still in good shape.
http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=42139.0 (http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=42139.0)
That's good news RR, I just think it's a shame that Malcolm is going, he put the people in the right positions to achieve what they gave achieved
I thought the Hahas were in enough trouble with the Fair Plaything. Redknapp is going ballistic signing every thing that moves. Surely he is going to destroy them. Now it´s Borini for £13 mil. How can they survive on gates less than ours?
They did just sell Remy for 10 mil, so the actual outlay is not too much.
I want this window to close. My right index finger is already numb.
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
I thought the Hahas were in enough trouble with the Fair Plaything. Redknapp is going ballistic signing every thing that moves. Surely he is going to destroy them. Now it´s Borini for £13 mil. How can they survive on gates less than ours?
They failed the championships fair play which is very strict, however the premier leagues is a lot different and they would be fine. They took a punt on promotion or take the consequences and they won, however they could be liable for a fine f they go down I believe
@SkySportsPeteO: Blackburn and Ipswich are battling it out to sign Fulham midfielder Ryan Tunnicliffe. #BRFC #ITFC #deadlineday
blackburn/ipswich want tunicliffe according to skysports transfer centre
We are mad to let him go, Felix needs to get over his agenda and play him. The lad has solid experience in the league and deserves a chance. Unless we replace him with Mugugan we are even shorter in CM, how can no manage in the past 4 see this!
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 03:56:57 PM
That's good news RR, I just think it's a shame that Malcolm is going, he put the people in the right positions to achieve what they gave achieved
Completely agree. I was feeling the same way and thus why I asked Southfield that question since he seems to be closest to what is going on at our academy and is clearly passionate about it.
Sky sports have just confirmed it...
16:19
FULHAM AFTER HUDSON AND SMITH
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Mark Hudson from Cardiff City and Matt Smith from Leeds and are in talks with both clubs about possible deals.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
I thought the Hahas were in enough trouble with the Fair Plaything. Redknapp is going ballistic signing every thing that moves. Surely he is going to destroy them. Now it´s Borini for £13 mil. How can they survive on gates less than ours?
They failed the championships fair play which is very strict, however the premier leagues is a lot different and they would be fine. They took a punt on promotion or take the consequences and they won, however they could be liable for a fine f they go down I believe
What are the penalties for failing FFP in the Championship??? Doesn't seem that QPR has been punished at all. Barcelona failed theirs and were at least threatened with a transfer window without signings. I haven't seen any punishment assigned to the Ha Ha's.
Is Hudson any good then? cardiffs defence was hardly water tight last season.
All I want is a CM and a ST. We dont need another CB. We need a CM and a ST and probably a winger if im greedy. GET MUGUGAN IN NOW!
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on September 01, 2014, 04:22:01 PM
Sky sports have just confirmed it...
16:19
FULHAM AFTER HUDSON AND SMITH
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Mark Hudson from Cardiff City and Matt Smith from Leeds and are in talks with both clubs about possible deals.
Would have preferred the McGugan rumor coming true. Why do we always skimp on midfield???!!! It's mind-numbing.
fp.gif so not a sausage coming in yet. leaving it late as usual
Quote from: jelmo on September 01, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
Is Hudson any good then? cardiffs defence was hardly water tight last season.
youre forgetting Felix wont play him in defence but in midfield
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2014, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
I thought the Hahas were in enough trouble with the Fair Plaything. Redknapp is going ballistic signing every thing that moves. Surely he is going to destroy them. Now it´s Borini for £13 mil. How can they survive on gates less than ours?
They failed the championships fair play which is very strict, however the premier leagues is a lot different and they would be fine. They took a punt on promotion or take the consequences and they won, however they could be liable for a fine f they go down I believe
What are the penalties for failing FFP in the Championship??? Doesn't seem that QPR has been punished at all. Barcelona failed theirs and were at least threatened with a transfer window without signings. I haven't seen any punishment assigned to the Ha Ha's.
A promoted team is fined but it seems suspended until they are back in the championship, which seems bizarre. But if u breach buy 3 million or less then it is assumed the owner will cover, if between 3 and 10 million it's a certain % of that then over ten is pound for pound on the amount over the 10 million. In there case first 3 million no effect, next 7 at say 50% or what ever % it is the remainder is pound for pound
Boltons Jermain Beckford is talking to us in a polite way.
Let's go and get -
Boyata
Mcmanaman
Murray
Gnarby
Mugugan
I see Ipswich Town are in for Collison, Ambrose & Tunnicliffe. We're currently in for Smith, Hudson and ..erm? Not very inspiring is it, whilst others look to strengthen their promotion push.
Guardian reporting Beckford to Fulham - Could mean Matt Smith deal is off. Would be pleased with him, was a cracking player a little while ago, wreeks of a Fulham signing - getting a player back on track.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
Boltons Jermain Beckford is talking to us in a polite way.
Oh my days, we really aren't looking to push any boats out are we. Anyone else feel slightly conned by FFC with quotes of "Money is no issue" when they wanted us to renew our season tickets early?
McCormack deal was done to increase ST sales and Khan's PR of 'we will spend whatever it takes' was around the same time, nothing has changed this club is still penny pinching and despite relegation the upper management has not learned a single thing.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Guardian reporting Beckford to Fulham - Could mean Matt Smith deal is off. Would be pleased with him, was a cracking player a little while ago, wreeks of a Fulham signing - getting a player back on track.
Obviously we have an obsession with current or former Leeds strikers.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
Boltons Jermain Beckford is talking to us in a polite way.
Oh my days, we really aren't looking to push any boats out are we. Anyone else feel slightly conned by FFC with quotes of "Money is no issue" when they wanted us to renew our season tickets early?
We spent no money so theres no money issues
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:17:20 PM
We are mad to let him go, Felix needs to get over his agenda and play him. The lad has solid experience in the league and deserves a chance. Unless we replace him with Mugugan we are even shorter in CM, how can no manage in the past 4 see this!
Not sure what the real deal is about Ryan T, has he got a lot of experience, signed in 2009 for Man U (0 games) been to Peterbourough (27 games), Barnsley (3 Games), Ipswich (27 games, then we signed him in January (3 games) and we loaned him to Wigan (5 games), 65 games played 0 goals, IMO Is he better than anything we have already, surely if any good someone would have kept him during his loan spells!
Not having a pop at him, but think we need more experience to go with our youthful team!
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Guardian reporting Beckford to Fulham - Could mean Matt Smith deal is off. Would be pleased with him, was a cracking player a little while ago, wreeks of a Fulham signing - getting a player back on track.
Past it. Not very productive since his Leeds days. No thanks. He will be 31 in December. Far too old for us now.
The window is not even closed yet, maybe we can assess Fulham in this window, when it's actually over. Lots of deals being reported are rumors, could have been started by anyone. Let's wait and see before we relieve ourselves all over Fulham management. Lots of things factor in to making a deal. Not just money.
Totally underwhelmed if Beckford comes in.
Quote from: RidgeRider on September 01, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
The window is not even closed yet, maybe we can assess Fulham in this window, when it's actually over. Lots of deals being reported are rumors, could have been started by anyone. Let's wait and see before we relieve ourselves all over Fulham management. Lots of things factor in to making a deal. Not just money.
Well where is the fun in that?
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Guardian reporting Beckford to Fulham - Could mean Matt Smith deal is off. Would be pleased with him, was a cracking player a little while ago, wreeks of a Fulham signing - getting a player back on track.
Past it. Not very productive since his Leeds days. No thanks. He will be 31 in December. Far too old for us now.
Its experience and for me he is a decent signing at this level. I would rather have him that N'gog anyway!
If we aren't going to stump up big money, can we at least bring in a couple of loan signings from Premier League clubs?
There's plenty of players not getting regular football who could help us.
The last thing we need is more bang average players!
Surely we are waiting to offload a few then we might be a bit more ambitious transfer wise.
Quote from: zander on September 01, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Guardian reporting Beckford to Fulham - Could mean Matt Smith deal is off. Would be pleased with him, was a cracking player a little while ago, wreeks of a Fulham signing - getting a player back on track.
Obviously we have an obsession with current or former Leeds strikers.
An old friend of mine, TK, is available
Please not Beckford he is well past it but get in Smith, Hudson and McGugan.
One another note Riise is back in the champions league signing for APOEL
Quote from: RidgeRider on September 01, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
The window is not even closed yet, maybe we can assess Fulham in this window, when it's actually over. Lots of deals being reported are rumors, could have been started by anyone. Let's wait and see before we relieve ourselves all over Fulham management. Lots of things factor in to making a deal. Not just money.
I'll be honest with you, not a lot factors in with players like Hudson and Beckford, especially when you've got a multi millionaire at the helm. This is very uninspiring, especially when talk of money and promotion are of no issues (apparently). Sorry, but a big, fat, massive thumbs down from me, and I feel slightly conned.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on September 01, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
The window is not even closed yet, maybe we can assess Fulham in this window, when it's actually over. Lots of deals being reported are rumors, could have been started by anyone. Let's wait and see before we relieve ourselves all over Fulham management. Lots of things factor in to making a deal. Not just money.
I'll be honest with you, not a lot factors in with players like Hudson and Beckford, especially when you've got a multi millionaire at the helm. This is very uninspiring, especially when talk of money and promotion are of no issues (apparently). Sorry, but a big, fat, massive thumbs down from me, and I feel slightly conned.
:plus one:
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 04:52:52 PM
If we aren't going to stump up big money, can we at least bring in a couple of loan signings from Premier League clubs?
The loan window doesn'r SLAM SHUT until November does it?
I think Khan is holding back as he isnt 100% confident in Felix, he did the same with Jol last summer. I can see Felix going sooner rather than later.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I think Khan is holding back as he isnt 100% confident in Felix, he did the same with Jol last summer. I can see Felix going sooner rather than later.
There's holding back, but theres also really holding back on players like Beckford and Hudson. Sorry, but this is all still very ludicrous, including the 38 year Goalkeeper we signed.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I think Khan is holding back as he isnt 100% confident in Felix, he did the same with Jol last summer. I can see Felix going sooner rather than later.
A lack of clear cut plan would certainly explain the hesitation on Mr. Khan's part. I tend to think he's not 100% sold on Felix yet. "Show me some results using 'your way' and then we'll put the full financial backing behind it."
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I think Khan is holding back as he isnt 100% confident in Felix, he did the same with Jol last summer. I can see Felix going sooner rather than later.
Then what's the point of keeping him on at all if the main objective is promotion?
Khan needs to make up his damn mind and invest some money in the squad, otherwise we'll be stuck in the Championship for much longer than just a year.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I think Khan is holding back as he isnt 100% confident in Felix, he did the same with Jol last summer. I can see Felix going sooner rather than later.
What is the point then? Wait for the January window to provide funds to a new manager when we are/could be already struggling? If Khan is not convinced by Magath why did he not use the Derby debacle as trigger point?
The whole approach is ludicrous and I really struggle to see what the plans A, B and C, and D might be. The lack of decisiveness is perpetuating a negative spiral that has been plaguing the club since almost two years now.
We will never sign another CM again.
Yep, this is a carbon copy of what happened last year. Eg Khan not being sure about the manager so not stumping up funds.
No promotion this season then if we are after the like of Jermaine Beckford!
This is clearly a sign of a Club that doesn't know what it's doing, and a manager who has no idea about players in this league. Yes, you can also throw into the mix about us being ill-prepared for the transfer window, plus all a Club that is struggling to attract players because of the trouble surrounding Magath. However you look at it, players like Beckford and Hudson are desperation signing when all else has fallen through.
McGugan seems like the only transfer rumour that would benefit us at the moment.
Let's get a Diarra type player in - we never replaced him - he was our best player when not even match fit!
We need a big, strong imposing figure in the middle of the park.
The start of the season has already been depressing enough, but I don't know if I can take this ineptitude much longer. If you're going to be a cheapskate and not invest, fine, but don't make bold claims about money being no issue and then stump up for McCormack and hide the key to the vault.
Quote from: jelmo on September 01, 2014, 05:07:27 PM
Yep, this is a carbon copy of what happened last year. Eg Khan not being sure about the manager so not stumping up funds.
No promotion this season then if we are after the like of Jermaine Beckford!
The lack of direction and decision is rather puzzling for someone who has made money in the auto spare parts business. We seem to be failing at the basic execution of a business plan, and probably do not have a clear business plan.
My feeling is that Khan is not willing to put any good money after bad money now that he realised he made a poor investment. But the issue is that in the football world standing still is the best way to become obsolete and lose even more money.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 04:52:52 PM
If we aren't going to stump up big money, can we at least bring in a couple of loan signings from Premier League clubs?
The loan window doesn'r SLAM SHUT until November does it?
We need some quality players now though!
Beckford, Smith and Hudson may not inspire but we've been wailing on here all summer for players with Div 2 experience and that trio have it in spades.
What do we actually want? Because top class Premier experience doesn't normally drop down divisions.
If this club was serious about getting back to the PL this season then we should be going all out to sign Defoe. We could probably afford it as we have been total skin-flints this window.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
Boltons Jermain Beckford is talking to us in a polite way.
Oh my days, we really aren't looking to push any boats out are we. Anyone else feel slightly conned by FFC with quotes of "Money is no issue" when they wanted us to renew our season tickets early?
oh yes...
straight back up?????
Its been very disappointing at Fulham for about 2 years now, pretty much from when Hughes left. None of our transfer windows have gone right, we've lost all our key players. The internal harmony at the club has totally been destroyed. We've played terrible football on the whole, been relegated, and now are struggling badly in the Championship.
I dont understand the McCormack signing if you're not going to go all out for promotion this season. It doesnt make any sense
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
Quote from: supersimmo123 on September 01, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I think Khan is holding back as he isnt 100% confident in Felix, he did the same with Jol last summer. I can see Felix going sooner rather than later.
There's holding back, but theres also really holding back on players like Beckford and Hudson. Sorry, but this is all still very ludicrous, including the 38 year Goalkeeper we signed.
Beckford, Hudson and the goalie are pretty uninspiring. At least we managed to sign that top quality midfielder Fotheringham.
All we want is a CM, i actually think Beckford could do a good job for us. Again we have taken players like him previously and done wonders. Zamora, Pog et al.
At this rate we're going to need to do another rebuild next year...
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Beckford, Smith and Hudson may not inspire but we've been wailing on here all summer for players with Div 2 experience and that trio have it in spades.
What do we actually want? Because top class Premier experience doesn't normally drop down divisions.
I'm sorry, but when you've got a billionaire owner, are the new boys in town, have parachute payments, and the pull of the City lights, I expect a little more than Hudson, Beckford and Smith!! Especially when the owner talks about money being no issue and a manager who boasts promotion.
The fact that the likes of Hull City and QPR are signing Abel Hernandez and Sandro and we're going after a guy who's spent most of his career in non-league and who's claim to fame is he once played well for Oldham, plus a 31 year old journeyman has-been and a 6th centre-back, just shows how far we've fallen. Imagine the players we could be signing right now if Khan hadn't been so utterly incompetent this time last season?
It also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts. Just who do we have working at the club that we're prepared to accept this? I'm pretty sure I could get better deals for these players myself!
I just pray that the windows shuts before any more players who would be quality under any decent manager, and will undoubtedly become useful once we've finally got rid of Magath, are allowed to leave for nothing.
Or we could have not bothered spending money on a striker and just kept Mitroglou...
If it is a question of wages then we could have saved money by not signing pointless wastes of squad numbers like Kiraly and Fotheringham. I imagine that would be a 8k a week saving right there...
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2014, 05:18:06 PM
Its been very disappointing at Fulham for about 2 years now, pretty much from when Hughes left. None of our transfer windows have gone right, we've lost all our key players. The internal harmony at the club has totally been destroyed. We've played terrible football on the whole, been relegated, and now are struggling badly in the Championship.
I dont understand the McCormack signing if you're not going to go all out for promotion this season. It doesnt make any sense
+1
how sick are you of hearing about the McCormack fee... wish they'd bang on about how much wedge is now in Khan'ts back pocket
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 05:19:56 PM
At this rate we're going to need to do another rebuild next year...
no, we are building a team to reach top ten in the prem. Felix said so
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
I think you have too much faith in the current management. Havent seen anything in the last 3 years to make me think this TDD will be anything other than an embarrassing shambles.
Its not as if there are any recent examples to call on of good transfer policy at this club
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
track record, suggest not very good ones
If FM is advising on who to buy then he leaves a lot to be desired it seems, Ali Mac said to one of us fans at the station at the weekend he is out in the cold so surely he isn't doing them, so who ever is doing them if it is not FM or Ali Mac needs a severe kick up the backside,
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
I know for a fact we're speaking to Hudson, have been for a week or 2 now. Whether it comes off or not is a different kettle of fish, but yes, that really is our level, and I will criticise the Club for talking to players of that caliber.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PMIt also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts.
Oh please! Rodallega has been nothing short of disappointing since he joined the club, Hangeland was well past his best and awful last season. And Stockdale? Ok but not a top quality keeper.
Any manager worth his corn would have shifted all three, with the caveat of getting a replacement lined up for Stockdale
I'm no fan of Magath but these players have failed miserably and have to be moved on. It's what we all wanted all summer.
Looks like the Bolton fans are ecstatic about the possibility of getting rid of Beckford if you look at their twitter response... We would be doing them a massive favour.
my issue is we should have signed players early even if we had to pay slightly over the top, we would have been a lot more attractive to a lot of players having just been relegated rather than now when we are struggling at the start of the season
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PMIt also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts.
Oh please! Rodallega has been nothing short of disappointing since he joined the club, Hangeland was well past his best and awful last season. And Stockdale? Ok but not a top quality keeper.
Any manager worth his corn would have shifted all three, with the caveat of getting a replacement lined up for Stockdale
I'm no fan of Magath but these players have failed miserably and have to be moved on. It's what we all wanted all summer.
But we are in the championship now. Therefore the players mentioned above would be playing at a level that they could probably succeed at.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
my issue is we should have signed players early even if we had to pay slightly over the top, we would have been a lot more attractive to a lot of players having just been relegated rather than now when we are struggling at the start of the season
That is true: but no one would have expected us to be struggling quite as much. Hindsight is wonderful....
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on September 01, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
my issue is we should have signed players early even if we had to pay slightly over the top, we would have been a lot more attractive to a lot of players having just been relegated rather than now when we are struggling at the start of the season
That is true: but no one would have expected us to be struggling quite as much. Hindsight is wonderful....
? Quite a few predicted it, not me though because I thought we might of actually had a decent window after shads comments.
Fulham midfielder Alex Kacaniklic will join FC Copenhagen on loan until the new year. #FFC #deadlineday
Another one bites the dust.
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on September 01, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
my issue is we should have signed players early even if we had to pay slightly over the top, we would have been a lot more attractive to a lot of players having just been relegated rather than now when we are struggling at the start of the season
That is true: but no one would have expected us to be struggling quite as much. Hindsight is wonderful....
yes it is, but the fact is it was obvious we should have got in early with some signings and we didn't, we focused on those wanting to go or who the cub wanted to leave.
Quote from: jelmo on September 01, 2014, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PMIt also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts.
Oh please! Rodallega has been nothing short of disappointing since he joined the club, Hangeland was well past his best and awful last season. And Stockdale? Ok but not a top quality keeper.
Any manager worth his corn would have shifted all three, with the caveat of getting a replacement lined up for Stockdale
I'm no fan of Magath but these players have failed miserably and have to be moved on. It's what we all wanted all summer.
But we are in the championship now. Therefore the players mentioned above would be playing at a level that they could probably succeed at.
On premiership wages.
Any other manager would have made the same decision IMO.
Interesting to see Eyong Enoh signed for Standard Liege on Saturday.
He looked a good player when he was loaned to us.
If we had offered a good wage, bonus etc. he might have been interested but probably hasnt been on Ali Mac's radar since.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
The fact that the likes of Hull City and QPR are signing Abel Hernandez and Sandro and we're going after a guy who's spent most of his career in non-league and who's claim to fame is he once played well for Oldham, plus a 31 year old journeyman has-been and a 6th centre-back, just shows how far we've fallen. Imagine the players we could be signing right now if Khan hadn't been so utterly incompetent this time last season?
It also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts. Just who do we have working at the club that we're prepared to accept this? I'm pretty sure I could get better deals for these players myself!
I just pray that the windows shuts before any more players who would be quality under any decent manager, and will undoubtedly become useful once we've finally got rid of Magath, are allowed to leave for nothing.
At the end of the day we can only sign the player who would agree to come here and that is the same for every club at every level
I tend to think that Khan believed what MAF told him and didn't catch on to how many pensioners we had on our books until it was too late. At the moment he has the intent to put it right and although he may have to change tack he is focused on getting back into the Premier League.
You said it all - Rodallega - in his peak years - you would have to look hard to find any of those - our former captain - are you serious - did you watch any of his performances last season - Stockdale - a proven keeper - what is the point in keeping him if you want to develop young talent - he may have had an OK season at Hull but they did not want to keep him and none of our merry-go-round of managers ever fancied him.
Not a word yet about Rodallega, Lovebite or Ruiz
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on September 01, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
my issue is we should have signed players early even if we had to pay slightly over the top, we would have been a lot more attractive to a lot of players having just been relegated rather than now when we are struggling at the start of the season
That is true: but no one would have expected us to be struggling quite as much. Hindsight is wonderful....
yes it is, but the fact is it was obvious we should have got in early with some signings and we didn't, we focused on those wanting to go or who the cub wanted to leave.
I don't disagree with that. Just making the point that the fact we are less attractive now to a potential player compared to a few weeks ago, since we are struggling so badly. could not really have been predicted.
But yes, many many reasons to get the business done earlier if it could have been.
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
Totally agree.
Wait until the window closes before having a moan. At the moment it's not doing anyone's blood pressure any good just moaning about rumours.
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
Not a word yet about Rodallega, Lovebite or Ruiz
Lovebites deal with Granada fell through, Club are desperately trying to push through the Ruiz move to Bremen.
leeds sign a striker, maybe Matt Smith on his way to us?
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on September 01, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
Totally agree.
Wait until the window closes before having a moan. At the moment it's not doing anyone's blood pressure any good just moaning about rumours.
The Hudson deal isn't a rumor, we've been talking to the player for the last 2 weeks now. It's Cardiff being awkward by all accounts, or it'd be done by now.
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 05:43:29 PM
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Not a word yet about Rodallega, Lovebite or Ruiz
Lovebites deal with Granada fell through, Club are desperately trying to push through the Ruiz move to Bremen.
unless we loan him with no fee to Bremen it is unlikely it will go through, they literally have no money.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:43:47 PM
leeds sign a striker, maybe Matt Smith on his way to us?
Or maybe they are just adding another striker and we go for Beckford?
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:43:47 PM
leeds sign a striker, maybe Matt Smith on his way to us?
Or maybe they are just adding another striker and we go for Beckford?
possibly but our main forward target as i read it is Smith
Well just over five hours to go, can someone bring us up to date on the moves.
Mitroglou gone on loan ??
Ruiz still with us
Rodders still with us
Lovebite still with us
No new target man
no new CM
Parker still with us
Kaca gone on loan
Roberts still with us
Not much happened yet, suspect the next five hours could be bad for us.
Mitro has gone so has kaka
With 5 hours to go how many do we think we will get in, so far today links to the below
Amos
Hudson
Mcgugan
Gonzalez of lazio
Smith
Beckford
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 05:52:17 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
I'd probably agree, now - David's come on leaps and bounds, ideal for this league.
I don't think we could of depended on him last season though.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
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Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
I'd probably agree, now - David's come on leaps and bounds, ideal for this league.
I don't think we could of depended on him last season though.
it couldn't have been any worse if we did though
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PMIt also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts.
Oh please! Rodallega has been nothing short of disappointing since he joined the club, Hangeland was well past his best and awful last season. And Stockdale? Ok but not a top quality keeper.
Any manager worth his corn would have shifted all three, with the caveat of getting a replacement lined up for Stockdale
I'm no fan of Magath but these players have failed miserably and have to be moved on. It's what we all wanted all summer.
When Rodders played through the middle he did well. I don't see the point in playing him in pre season and then come the start of the season we don't want him.
Either way, he is a good striker and would do well ahead of Ross. We have a lot of talented youngsters but it would seem most think they are better than they are. Rodders should be in ahead of Woodrow.
Quote from: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PMIt also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts.
Oh please! Rodallega has been nothing short of disappointing since he joined the club, Hangeland was well past his best and awful last season. And Stockdale? Ok but not a top quality keeper.
Any manager worth his corn would have shifted all three, with the caveat of getting a replacement lined up for Stockdale
I'm no fan of Magath but these players have failed miserably and have to be moved on. It's what we all wanted all summer.
When Rodders played through the middle he did well. I don't see the point in playing him in pre season and then come the start of the season we don't want him.
Either way, he is a good striker and would do well ahead of Ross. We have a lot of talented youngsters but it would seem most think they are better than they are. Rodders should be in ahead of Woodrow.
I don't think it's a case of not wanting Rodders, it's more the case that he doesn't want to be here, period. As the summers gone on, he's got more and disgruntled about being kept, so I think the Club are getting rid.
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Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
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Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
I'd probably agree, now - David's come on leaps and bounds, ideal for this league.
I don't think we could of depended on him last season though.
it couldn't have been any worse if we did though
It could, we would've had a point less after Holtby ran the game at Old Trafford!
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on September 01, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PMIt also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts.
Oh please! Rodallega has been nothing short of disappointing since he joined the club, Hangeland was well past his best and awful last season. And Stockdale? Ok but not a top quality keeper.
Any manager worth his corn would have shifted all three, with the caveat of getting a replacement lined up for Stockdale
I'm no fan of Magath but these players have failed miserably and have to be moved on. It's what we all wanted all summer.
When Rodders played through the middle he did well. I don't see the point in playing him in pre season and then come the start of the season we don't want him.
Either way, he is a good striker and would do well ahead of Ross. We have a lot of talented youngsters but it would seem most think they are better than they are. Rodders should be in ahead of Woodrow.
I don't think it's a case of not wanting Rodders, it's more the case that he doesn't want to be here, period. As the summers gone on, he's got more and disgruntled about being kept, so I think the Club are getting rid.
i think the club are getting rid cos he is worth something and is on decent wages. We will have one of the cheapest wage bills in the league by the time the window shuts
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Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
I'd probably agree, now - David's come on leaps and bounds, ideal for this league.
I don't think we could of depended on him last season though.
it couldn't have been any worse if we did though
It could, we would've had a point less after Holtby ran the game at Old Trafford!
or we could of had 6 points more if david played and we might have stayed up. No offs or butts, the team we used last season failed and got us relegated.
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Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
I'd probably agree, now - David's come on leaps and bounds, ideal for this league.
I don't think we could of depended on him last season though.
it couldn't have been any worse if we did though
It could, we would've had a point less after Holtby ran the game at Old Trafford!
or we could of had 6 points more if david played and we might have stayed up. No offs or butts, the team we used last season failed and got us relegated.
Lol no one said they didn't!
David wouldn't of won us any more points last season let's not be too drastic now!
Anyway this conversation is boring me, good luck Lewis you still gave us more in a few months than the whole squad did all season!
german window closed so ruiz wont be going to bremen
Fulham have said that Malcomn Elias is still employed by them
Trotta to Wigan if money can be raised through sales - Rumour.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 06:15:28 PM
Trotta to Wigan if money can be raised through sales - Rumour.
Watch him go there and score a bag of goals including goals against us!
Wigan just got 7.5 mill for McCarthy, didn't they?
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
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Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 05:52:17 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Holtby loaned to Hamburg, good luck to him.
yes good luck to him, I much prefer david in that role though
I'd probably agree, now - David's come on leaps and bounds, ideal for this league.
I don't think we could of depended on him last season though.
it couldn't have been any worse if we did though
It could, we would've had a point less after Holtby ran the game at Old Trafford!
I suspect its his salary we don't want.
Mark Hudson set to join Huddersfield.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
With 5 hours to go how many do we think we will get in, so far today links to the below
Amos
Hudson
Mcgugan
Gonzalez of lazio
Smith
Beckford
Sky Sports reporting Huddersfield are poised to sign Hudson
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on September 01, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
Totally agree.
Wait until the window closes before having a moan. At the moment it's not doing anyone's blood pressure any good just moaning about rumours.
The Hudson deal isn't a rumor, we've been talking to the player for the last 2 weeks now. It's Cardiff being awkward by all accounts, or it'd be done by now.
Skysport reporting Hudson about to sign for Huddersfield Town!
We couldn't even secure Hudson's signature!
Could be a blessing in disguise though.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 06:32:48 PM
We couldn't even secure Hudson's signature!
Could be a blessing in disguise though.
I heard Cardiff were being funny, but Hudson wanted to come. Like you say, blessing in disguise.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 06:32:48 PM
We couldn't even secure Hudson's signature!
Could be a blessing in disguise though.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 06:32:48 PM
We couldn't even secure Hudson's signature!
Could be a blessing in disguise though.
agreed, the last thing we need is another defender. Midfield and Striker would do just fine. Have plenty of options in the back.
If that's the case not a major setback.
Hugo to Levante SSN
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
I know for a fact we're speaking to Hudson, have been for a week or 2 now. Whether it comes off or not is a different kettle of fish, but yes, that really is our level, and I will criticise the Club for talking to players of that caliber.
Must have his own helicopter then to get from Wales to London and then onto Yorkshire this fast...
Sky Sports understands Huddersfield Town are poised to sign Cardiff City defender Mark Hudson.
Of course the lights of Huddersfield are so much attractive than London and Huddersfield can pay sooo much more than we can
So we cancel Hugos contract and look to replace him with Beckford well the purse is definitely locked shut
What an absolute joke Khan you need to answer a few questions if you don't pull a rabbit out the hat before the window closes
Diarras move to Apr has collapsed. Days after Twitch Sat there and said it was done . Idiot never learns.
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
I used to be glued to the internet on deadline day. This year, i couldnt give 2 hoots.
Modified for using swear word...
Quote from: MasterHaynes on September 01, 2014, 06:56:59 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
Perhaps it would be prudent to wait until the window closes before jumping up and down criticising. Do you know which players we may or may not be actually speaking to? ...........Thought not.
I know for a fact we're speaking to Hudson, have been for a week or 2 now. Whether it comes off or not is a different kettle of fish, but yes, that really is our level, and I will criticise the Club for talking to players of that caliber.
Must have his own helicopter then to get from Wales to London and then onto Yorkshire this fast...
Sky Sports understands Huddersfield Town are poised to sign Cardiff City defender Mark Hudson.
Of course the lights of Huddersfield are so much attractive than London and Huddersfield can pay sooo much more than we can
We've been talking to Hudson for the past 2 weeks now, that I can assure you of, I know a friend of the family (being and ex-Fulham boy and all that) He'd have been here a lot sooner if Cardiff weren't making his move awkward. I can only assume that we've turned our backs on it now, due to Lovebites move to Granada falling through and he's opted for Huddersfield. He was being bought in for cover, nothing more.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
Im not gone say anything, its gone cause another felix in our out topic I think....
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 07:06:45 PM
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Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Beyond belief. What is going on? Until the cloud lifts and we can see what is happening, the only assumption seems to be....worse than the Clay era. 090.gif
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:09:57 PM
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Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Instead we are replacing him with an incredibly un inspiring player!
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
And yet that was under MAF era..... I hated him the way he left, but he was right.......... I think last season was the start of a very dark era.......
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: maoconnor on September 01, 2014, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Can we just cancel his contract, without obligation? Is this mutual consent, or a clause written ito contract?
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
The people who stand outside the training grounds are beyond bizarre.
Villa fans are waiting for Canales with suitcases...and Atletico Madrid kits on?
I think finances entirely dictate this one.
I would rather Smith or Beckford over Rodallega though - he has looked uninterested for some time and paid a fortune!
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 07:10:56 PM
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Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Instead we are replacing him with an incredibly un inspiring player!
If it's true, I think Beckford is the alternative to Smith (if that falls through)
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
He's only on that money cause we didn't pay for him.
Can you truly say that he's not better then Beckford though?
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
The people who stand outside the training grounds are beyond bizarre.
Villa fans are waiting for Canales with suitcases...and Atletico Madrid kits on?
Maybe the suitcases have got the cash in them?
Quote from: blingo on September 01, 2014, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
Not the end of the world and yes. Liked him as a player but not worth the money he was on.
Add to that we are surviving on smaller gates,plus the need to balnce up with the financial fair play ,so not suprising.
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
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Quote from: maoconnor on September 01, 2014, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Can we just cancel his contract, without obligation? Is this mutual consent, or a clause written ito contract?
Hugo isn't happy, he hasn't been all summer, he's protested for ages about wanting to go, so I'd imagine it's mutual consent to help the move go through. He leaves, we get an expensive, average player off the wage bill.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:09:57 PM
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Quote from: maoconnor on September 01, 2014, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Amazes me how you know what he's on every week. Although I don't know myself, I would be astounded if it's 74k per week. 40k tops.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:15:29 PM
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Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
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Quote from: maoconnor on September 01, 2014, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Can we just cancel his contract, without obligation? Is this mutual consent, or a clause written ito contract?
if theres a clause in the contract stating we can like with Brede then yes we can
Quote from: hovewhite on September 01, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
Not the end of the world and yes. Liked him as a player but not worth the money he was on.
Add to that we are surviving on smaller gates,plus the need to balnce up with the financial fair play ,so not suprising.
He may not be worth 74k but Beckford will be worth sweet Fanny A. So what is the point. If we are blatantly asset stripping then just get rid of Hugo and don't get in a 5th rate replacement at all. Just trouser the saving.
What a tightwad our joke of an owner is proving to be.
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Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
He's never really been given a chance and works his socks off
And more importantly has he ever indicated he doesn't want to be here????
Cancelling Hugo's contract is the only way to get him off the books. We can't transfer him because of the 74k/week wage he's on. He's not going to negotiate a reasonable wage and no one is going to pay HIM anywhere near that.
If he's on a free, he's off our books and he can again get a wage well more than he deserves because there is no transfer fee involved.
This should free us up to spend, hopefully on someone better than Beckford at striker.......or ON A FRIGGIN' MIDFIELDER!!! Come on Fulham! Wake up!
Well I will check in tonight but we look like a double glazing salesman in this window.
Hudson may snub Fulham for Huddersfield
For those that keep saying let's wait and see well not long now and everything that has come about was rumoured and reported so unless Fulham have something up their sleeve.
We now have to get used to the idea. We are a bottom of the Championship side.
Oh and Palace will sign Macarthur of Wigan
Strange how Felix was playing him when he hardly played anyone else who "wanted to leave"
although mainly pre-season.
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Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
Proven where? Do you have photographic evidence of his wage slip?
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:19:55 PM
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Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Amazes me how you know what he's on every week. Although I don't know myself, I would be astounded if it's 74k per week. 40k tops.
Yes, once again, he's on around 40k a week, and that big fat signing on fee which he got for being a free agent, was paid on top of his wages for length of his 4 year contract, equating to around 74K a week.
Sorry, Hugo has not shown us much and the cost of his wages was insane !!!!!!!!
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
:plus one:
So we paid Hugo off for his remaining season?
That sounds ludicrous, surely it's a mutual agreement?
o well, i just hope whoever we replace him with is a youngster as i want taggart to be our main striker with ross
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Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
The fact that the likes of Hull City and QPR are signing Abel Hernandez and Sandro and we're going after a guy who's spent most of his career in non-league and who's claim to fame is he once played well for Oldham, plus a 31 year old journeyman has-been and a 6th centre-back, just shows how far we've fallen. Imagine the players we could be signing right now if Khan hadn't been so utterly incompetent this time last season?
It also looks like we're releasing Rodallega, a proven international forward in his peak years, on a free transfer....this is to go with our captain, whom we also let join a premier league club for free and Stockdale, a proven keeper at this level who went to a divisional rival for peanuts. Just who do we have working at the club that we're prepared to accept this? I'm pretty sure I could get better deals for these players myself!
I just pray that the windows shuts before any more players who would be quality under any decent manager, and will undoubtedly become useful once we've finally got rid of Magath, are allowed to leave for nothing.
At the end of the day we can only sign the player who would agree to come here and that is the same for every club at every level
I tend to think that Khan believed what MAF told him and didn't catch on to how many pensioners we had on our books until it was too late. At the moment he has the intent to put it right and although he may have to change tack he is focused on getting back into the Premier League.
You said it all - Rodallega - in his peak years - you would have to look hard to find any of those - our former captain - are you serious - did you watch any of his performances last season - Stockdale - a proven keeper - what is the point in keeping him if you want to develop young talent - he may have had an OK season at Hull but they did not want to keep him and none of our merry-go-round of managers ever fancied him.
I gather Brede was dropped by Crystal Palace at the weekend after his poor performances so far this season.
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Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
He's never really been given a chance and works his socks off
And more importantly has he ever indicated he doesn't want to be here????
Yes, I've lost count the amount of times he's spat his dummy out on social media websites about being held to ransom. His last outburst was "This is now becoming personal" aimed directly at FFC.
I haven't seen what Hugo has
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Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
He's never really been given a chance and works his socks off
And more importantly has he ever indicated he doesn't want to be here????
He works his socks off, and seems a decent bloke, but has a terrible first touch, and what has he done with Fulham to warrant the wages he is paid?
I have heard that he wanted to go anyway.
well on the bright side we are not favourites for relegation. yet.
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Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
Proven where? Do you have photographic evidence of his wage slip?
Please mind me whilst I chose not to get involved about having to provide you with hardcore paper evidence. It's tedious, and we're all grown adults here. Hugo's wages have been brought up may a times, and have been proved to be in the region of 74k a week, including his signing on fee.
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Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Ridiculous. How is Beckford any way an upgrade on Hugo? Hugo looked decent at the end of last season, had a positive pre season and was only given one game this season!!
i don't mean to be funny for me he has never been decent his scoring record is apalling for someone who earns 74k per week
+1
He's barely even had a chance, let alone at this level! 74k a week is also pure speculation
74k a week isn't speculation, it's his wages, plus his signing on fee paid over the duration of his contract. It's been proven, brought up many times, not just on this forum, but others. Tell me, would you be happy paying him that amount of money when he clearly doesn't deliver, or wants to be here?
Proven where? Do you have photographic evidence of his wage slip?
Oddly enough, I think there was..
There was some fairly official looking document leaked not all that long ago, I can't recall what it was (don't think it was a wage slip mind you) but the figure has been in my head from then. Anyways regardless of whether the figure is accurate or not, the fact that the contract has been cancelled (presumably by mutual consent?) would seem to me to lend evidence to the fact Hugo is on megabucks as it opens him up for a nice shiny signing bonus.
Don't understand the point of looking at Beckford though. What's he going to do other than provide 3rd or 4th level injury cover? Why bother at all?
I'm still trying to hold onto the belief that those in charge know what they are doing and obviously have their hands tied in a way that we the fans aren't aware of but they aren't making it easy for me.
Was Rodellega ineffective last season like Ruiz and Berbatov were ineffective, because of Jol, the lineup, the overall lack of team fitness, the lack of an effective spine, etc., or was he ineffective because he just can't be effective no matter what? That's what I'm wondering. I wanted him to succeed because he seemed to care and put the effort in, but...
If true it probably makes sense if he wanted out and nobody prepared to bid. If no fee involved in the termination. He is on extortionate wages for the Championship.
He is not a goalscorer I'm afraid, but the Woodrow and Dembele aren't setting the world alight but we do have the scot the Aussie and the Italian too
Previous posters have said Hugo has worked his socks off, maybe they have been watching a lookalike, Hugo has been a headless chicken for our club, not sorry to see him go at all!!
Sorry but where's the source of the info for contract cancellation? I can't find anything
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
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Hugo to Levante SSN
Wish him all the best
Seems we cacelled his contract! wtf?
Quite rightly, he's on 74k a week (including his signing on fee) Why in our right minds would we want to pay that for such an uninspiring striker, who scores less than 10 goals a season, especially in the Championship.
Can we just cancel his contract, without obligation? Is this mutual consent, or a clause written ito contract?
I would imagine a percentage is paid up to Hugo, as per original contract stated and it also allows Hugo to negotiate with a club as a free agent. It gets him off our wage bill and frees up our staff to barter for Beckford instead if being tied up on the phone with trying to sell Hugo to Levante.
He was probably offered a lower deal and refused!
Good riddance I say, we need players with hunger and battling qualities.
Looks like once Ruiz has gone we have finally managed to get shot of the whingers and posers!
Hugo isn't getting 74k a week!!!
Also when played centrally he is a good player. Rarely was he played in his correct position. Rarely did he get a run of games.
We didn't see what he could do as he, like others have been mugged off at our club.
All the best Hugo mate.
He wasn't asked to take a lesser deal
And he would have happily stayed at the club and very much enjoyed benign captain during pre season.
He has been unhappy at the fact he didn't play his position and was often in and out of the team (the scapegoat if u like)
Quote from: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 07:48:54 PM
Hugo isn't getting 74k a week!!!
Also when played centrally he is a good player. Rarely was he played in his correct position. Rarely did he get a run of games.
We didn't see what he could do as he, like others have been mugged off at our club.
All the best Hugo mate.
he does have about 74k a week, he asked Everton for 70k a week but they backed down so he then went to us, for about the same amount
Quote from: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 07:52:55 PM
He wasn't asked to take a lesser deal
And he would have happily stayed at the club and very much enjoyed benign captain during pre season.
He has been unhappy at the fact he didn't play his position and was often in and out of the team (the scapegoat if u like)
I like how you talk like you know!
Quote from: KP_FFC on September 01, 2014, 07:33:20 PM
o well, i just hope whoever we replace him with is a youngster as i want taggart to be our main striker with ross
On what evidence?how can you assume he is not only good enough but better than Woodrow is, you clearly did not see his one appearance in a FFC shirt at Crawley. He would be permanently floored on the deck and in the treatment room if he was dealt the physical challenges that Cauley receives each week. The Australian league will not have prepared him to find the space required tp go knocking in goals like he did there. I suspect he will have found it a shock already just training with the squad. If you expect to play him wide because of his speed then I would prefer either of the Williams as the chosen wide players.
Tunnicliffe on loan to Blackburn. Could have been worse.
I have a feeling we're going to sign someone completely under the radar. It always happens. Look at Bodurov and Eisfeld, they came out of nowhere. I kind of hope we do.
Quote from: Neil D on September 01, 2014, 08:01:58 PM
Tunnicliffe on loan to Blackburn. Could have been worse.
we are strengthening one of our relegation rivals and letting another one of our experienced championship players leave.
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I have a feeling we're going to sign someone completely under the radar. It always happens. Look at Bodurov and Eisfeld, they came out of nowhere. I kind of hope we do.
i have a bad feeling we will sign no one
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True but the way our talent has been dissipated, we could have sold him...
At least Kaca and Tunicliffe deals are loans so we can get them back in January when Magath is long gone and we have a proper manager.
im waiting for burn to disappear somewhere, not being a magath signing
Did anyone else just see Danny Murphy make a blow job type motion on the live 5 webcam stream? Sacked in the morning!
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Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
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Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's that think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's that think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
if someone gave me the club I could have invested more than what shad has so far and I'm brasic
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Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's that think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's that think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
The man himself said he'd spend what it takes to get us back up.... His words and we are set to sign Beckford.
Khan has done nothing for this club apart from spend heavily on someone who should never have passed a medical and had us turned in to a laughing stock with our managerial situation
Surely if Glenn Murray was up for grabs from Palace, he would be a better option then the strikers we are currently being linked with?
Instead it looks like he is going to Reading?
Where's the strong, commanding hard hitting central midfielder that we so desperately need?
That's what i want to know!
And don't tell me fotheringham!
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
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Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
Some of our fan's think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
So, that would be the 'Proven top Manager' who could not get a job for 18 months then????
Yeh, a man in demand, clearly.
Dembele around - on loan pleeease........nope, that isn't going to happen
He will go to QPR
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
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Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
I'll have whatever he's drinking please.
Cardiff confirm a new £5 million centre back - 'showing ambition' in Khans words!
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 08:20:22 PM
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Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's that think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's that think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
The man himself said he'd spend what it takes to get us back up.... His words and we are set to sign Beckford.
Khan has done nothing for this club apart from spend heavily on someone
who should never have passed a medical and had us turned in to a laughing stock with our managerial situation
He trusted certain people to do their job properly I'm sure he won't make that mistake again.
:plus one:
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The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
all i can think is we are saving money now as felix has told khan he can get us up with these players but will need 40 million next year in the prem
whos worse for signing thee old players felix or redknapp
Mihaylov just signed with an obscure Turkish club (Mersin?). From bad to worse.
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
all i can think is we are saving money now as felix has told khan he can get us up with these players but will need 40 million next year in the prem
we would have to sell motspur and the cottage for khan to release even half of that
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
all i can think is we are saving money now as felix has told khan he can get us up with these players but will need 40 million next year in the prem
personally looking at our squad now, if we were to go up 40 minion would not be enough to keep us up, some a just not good enough for the prem
Not sure if im the only one but in all honesty thats surprised that no one has left the club today.
I know mitroglou joined olympiakos but that was yesterday.
Read on twitter fulham holding talks with Josimar?
I don't get this Dembele (The Younger) thing - on Saturday he was clueless. I think he needs another season in youth sides.
Windows not shut yet, give it time
Tunnicliffe on loan to Blackburn
Kaca on loan to Copenhagen
And Bryan has gone wohoooooooo
Quote from: Tom_FFC on September 01, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
Surely if Glenn Murray was up for grabs from Palace, he would be a better option then the strikers we are currently being linked with?
Instead it looks like he is going to Reading?
Wow that would've been a great option! The two highest scoring players in the championship for the past two seasons - what a statement that would've been!
Amorebieta? No takers I suppose!
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on September 01, 2014, 08:30:32 PM
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Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
I'll have whatever he's drinking please.
lol c'mon twas only a little rant.
Is Larnell Cole even alive?
Thought he would've gone!
wheres ruiz gone?
josimar the centre half from doordrecht is awful
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
Quote from: Humbled on September 01, 2014, 07:52:55 PM
He wasn't asked to take a lesser deal
And he would have happily stayed at the club and very much enjoyed benign captain during pre season.
He has been unhappy at the fact he didn't play his position and was often in and out of the team (the scapegoat if u like)
I like how you talk like you know!
You suggested that is what happened. I am letting you know it didn't. Simple as that really.
Edit - of course I could be being lied to however I would like to think what was said to me is true.
Compared to assuming and then saying it is probably what happened.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
At least Kaca and Tunicliffe deals are loans so we can get them back in January when Magath is long gone and we have a proper manager.
If Felix is still here do you have a plan B?
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 08:44:29 PM
Is Larnell Cole even alive?
Thought he would've gone!
we have to ship out the decent experienced players before we sell the prospects. Probably won't happen till january, then expect him Roberts the Williams and david to leave
he would have been decent for us in the champ, shame he ticked of FM by complaining about the training allegedly
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
They've done some good business, Kvist will do ok in this league.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
wheres ruiz gone?
josimar the centre half from doordrecht is awful
My reliable source....HP says besiktas is a done deal and as I type he starts following them on twitter
Pic of Kaca at Copenhagen.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BweKhZ5CIAATMii.jpg)
Sorry to say, if nothing dramatic happens in the next couple of hours, the signs are ominous. An absentee chairman, a clueless manager, poor playing staff, inexperienced youngsters and mediocre journeymen, we are spiralling down and, more worringly, that seems to be the plan!
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
wheres ruiz gone?
josimar the centre half from doordrecht is awful
My reliable source....HP says besiktas is a done deal and as I type he starts following them on twitter
i have an awful feeling we wont sign anyone, let alone a signing that will stun us
Quote from: andyk on September 01, 2014, 08:48:43 PM
Sorry to say, if nothing dramatic happens in the next couple of hours, the signs are ominous. An absentee chairman, a clueless manager, poor playing staff, inexperienced youngsters and mediocre journeymen, we are spiralling down and, more worringly, that seems to be the plan!
Pretty much sums it up.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
They've done some good business, Kvist will do ok in this league.
Agreed.
Currently at a loss with our deadline day.
Areas lacking depth: CDM, CM, RB, Wingers. Areas covered: CB, CF.
Targets: CBs and CFs... FFS!
Wigan have confirmed the signing of former Fulham loanee William Kvist from Stuttgart.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
They've done some good business, Kvist will do ok in this league.
Agreed.
Currently at a loss with our deadline day.
Areas lacking depth: CDM, CM, RB, Wingers. Areas covered: CB, CF.
Targets: CBs and CFs... FFS!
how are our CFS covered? We have lost mitro Hugo and Ruiz. We have bought in McCormack and tagget
must be waiting to get all the qpr players harrys not going to use on loan
WTH???
TV2 Norway just showed William Kvist is a done deal to Fulham?? Didnt he get less playtime under Magath??? I rated him so I am happy if this is true!
It surely must have been a typo??
Even Jol was capable of pulling a rabbit out of his hat on Deadline Day, and that's with seemingly much less funds at his disposal.
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on September 01, 2014, 08:50:46 PM
Wigan have confirmed the signing of former Fulham loanee William Kvist from Stuttgart.
Very good signing
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
They've done some good business, Kvist will do ok in this league.
Agreed.
Currently at a loss with our deadline day.
Areas lacking depth: CDM, CM, RB, Wingers. Areas covered: CB, CF.
Targets: CBs and CFs... FFS!
how are our CFS covered? We have lost mitro Hugo and Ruiz. We have bought in McCormack and tagget
Ross, Cauley, Taggart, Dembele, Trotta.
It's lacking a bit of pace, but surely better covered than CDM? Hoog (a RB) and Parker being the only options there.
such a depressing day so far, Matt Smith would be ok as would be McGugan but to be linked with Beckford, please surely we are better than that
Rene is in the studio next...wonder if he'll reveal anything about the Mitroglou fiasco?
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
They've done some good business, Kvist will do ok in this league.
Agreed.
Currently at a loss with our deadline day.
Areas lacking depth: CDM, CM, RB, Wingers. Areas covered: CB, CF.
Targets: CBs and CFs... FFS!
how are our CFS covered? We have lost mitro Hugo and Ruiz. We have bought in McCormack and tagget
Ross, Cauley, Taggart, Dembele, Trotta.
It's lacking a bit of pace, but surely better covered than CDM? Hoog (a RB) and Parker being the only options there.
5 games in and not a goal between them. Yes we are short in cdm.
i doubt it, he could look silly if the club come out and say he named him we got him type of thing
I'm only on here to see who goes, I don't really expect many players in. I'm not depressed about that though as long as we don't loose good players.
Oh I lie, I'm also on here as I'm a Mod
I can only think we are going to depend on loan deals in the coming months.
Because we are doing eff all tonight, apart from Beckford which I think will go through.
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Kvist to Wigan..
If Tunni goes he could've been useful for us.
They've done some good business, Kvist will do ok in this league.
Agreed.
Currently at a loss with our deadline day.
Areas lacking depth: CDM, CM, RB, Wingers. Areas covered: CB, CF.
Targets: CBs and CFs... FFS!
how are our CFS covered? We have lost mitro Hugo and Ruiz. We have bought in McCormack and tagget
Ross, Cauley, Taggart, Dembele, Trotta.
It's lacking a bit of pace, but surely better covered than CDM? Hoog (a RB) and Parker being the only options there.
5 games in and not a goal between them. Yes we are short in cdm.
I think part of that is because they're lacking a decent feed and have been offered little support from the midfield, but I get your point.
Still, I don't think Beckford or Smith would be the solution to the CF problem.
Just hoping we bring in at least one CDM/CM and a wide player. Ross shouldn't be on the wing, and playing him centrally could fix of striker issue.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
I can only think we are going to depend on loan deals in the coming months.
Because we are doing eff all tonight, apart from Beckford which I think will go through.
MadMagath doesnt like loan deals as the loanees dont fight for the club apparently
Quote from: leonffc on September 01, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
I can only think we are going to depend on loan deals in the coming months.
Because we are doing eff all tonight, apart from Beckford which I think will go through.
MadMagath doesnt like loan deals as the loanees dont fight for the club apparently
i agree with that, what was our last really good loan deal, I'm going to say boa morte in the championship
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
Surprisingly we have mutually complementary interests. The owners want to maintain their investment and we want success.
If the owner isn't prepared to invest, then like a house owner who doesn't maintain their house, it will will degrade and decrease in value. Similarly the fans want investment to maintain or improve the status of the team.
How much money on paper has Khan lost already by being relegated? Not such a great businessman?
And here we are not even requiring Khan to dip into his own pocket but to spend some of the parachute and tv money that will otherwise sit in the bank.
Kaca signs an extension with us until 2016, then signs on loan to Copenhagen.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/new-deal-loan-for-kaca (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/new-deal-loan-for-kaca)
Weird!!
Maybe he wants to play for us, but is just waiting until Magath is gone??
Sky sports is proper drab. You could get paraletic doing a drinking game everytime you hear 'Falcao'
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: leonffc on September 01, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
I can only think we are going to depend on loan deals in the coming months.
Because we are doing eff all tonight, apart from Beckford which I think will go through.
MadMagath doesnt like loan deals as the loanees dont fight for the club apparently
i agree with that, what was our last really good loan deal, I'm going to say boa morte in the championship
Holtby if the clown didn't play him on the wing
We have been shocked by every signing bar Ross. If there are signings to happen we won't hear until they r done.
a new contract for kaca and shipping out on loan?
basically, we dont want you, but we want some money for you, but not yet...
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on September 01, 2014, 09:05:25 PM
a new contract for kaca and shipping out on loan?
basically, we dont want you, but we want some money for you, but not yet...
Or maybe Kaca wants to stay but Felix dont want to play him and he is hoping Felix is gone by the time he returns from loan?
Just seen this on official site which i cant get my head round if the club are offering him a deal why not have they been playing him????
"The Club can confirm that Alexander Kačaniklić has signed a contract extension which sees him committed to Fulham until 30th June 2016.
The Sweden international winger has, with immediate effect, moved to FC Copenhagen on a season-long loan deal."
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: leonffc on September 01, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
I can only think we are going to depend on loan deals in the coming months.
Because we are doing eff all tonight, apart from Beckford which I think will go through.
MadMagath doesnt like loan deals as the loanees dont fight for the club apparently
i agree with that, what was our last really good loan deal, I'm going to say boa morte in the championship
Holtby if the clown didn't play him on the wing
he was nothing special, he just looked good cos we were all used to Parker and Sitwell getting dominated in every game
Quote from: leonffc on September 01, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Julius Geezer on September 01, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
I can only think we are going to depend on loan deals in the coming months.
Because we are doing eff all tonight, apart from Beckford which I think will go through.
MadMagath doesnt like loan deals as the loanees dont fight for the club apparently
In which case, this is our squad until January, where we panic buy again and fail again!
Quote from: Syd Cupp on September 01, 2014, 09:06:51 PM
Just seen this on official site which i cant get my head round if the club are offering him a deal why not have they been playing him????
"The Club can confirm that Alexander Kačaniklić has signed a contract extension which sees him committed to Fulham until 30th June 2016.
The Sweden international winger has, with immediate effect, moved to FC Copenhagen on a season-long loan deal."
We dont do things that make sense
Just seen on Twitter via Nicklas Gaitan (Costa Rican Journalist) that we are in for Celso Borges - competing with Derby for his signature.
Would be a good signing I believe and another CM. Also currently plays ST for AIK.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Just seen on Twitter via Nicklas Gaitan (Costa Rican Journalist) that we are in for Celso Borges - competing with Derby for his signature.
Would be a good signing I believe and another CM. Also currently plays ST for AIK.
I hope Felix has a tardis then
with 90 minutes or so to go, i predict we sign no one
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 09:12:40 PM
with 90 minutes or so to go, i predict we sign no one
the question is will we sell the players that we want to
This is without doubt the most anti clima X for a transfer window
Hugo has been released apparently and Ruiz is on the verge of going to B. would have kept Ruiz if we are not signing anyone
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Just seen on Twitter via Nicklas Gaitan (Costa Rican Journalist) that we are in for Celso Borges - competing with Derby for his signature.
Would be a good signing I believe and another CM. Also currently plays ST for AIK.
A good player, but I very much doubt we have the time to sign him. AIK's boss was interviewed earlier today here in Sweden and said nothing about any Borges deal.
BTW, he plays as one of two CM in a 4-4-2 for AIK.
If we announced that David, Hyndmann, Woodrow, LVC,Burn,Roberts G.Williams & Bettinelli had all signed 3yr extensions I would be content that we had had an OK window effectively insuring our crown jewels
We will have a new face or 2 come 11pm. Whether we are happy with it/them or not is another matter lol!!!!
Ruiz is a cert for a last minute move to Palace/QPR/Spurs/West ham or some other nearby club
hudson is a no go apparently, smith is doubtful, that leaves beckford, i would rather play my dead grandmother
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
hudson is a no go apparently, smith is doubtful, that leaves beckford, i would rather play my dead grandmother
doubt we have the funds to exhume her
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
hudson is a no go apparently, smith is doubtful, that leaves beckford, i would rather play my dead grandmother
doubt we have the funds to exhume her
lol agree
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Just seen on Twitter via Nicklas Gaitan (Costa Rican Journalist) that we are in for Celso Borges - competing with Derby for his signature.
Would be a good signing I believe and another CM. Also currently plays ST for AIK.
so tell me bryan about fulham, ok which way is derby
I've seen Falcaos private jet land at least 40 times now.
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
hudson is a no go apparently, smith is doubtful, that leaves beckford, i would rather play my dead grandmother
If she can play CM sign her up!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
What a random post.
Are you happy with how tonight is going then? Careful not to say anything negative though as it means your not a real supporter.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
calm down, I think most are disappointed we have nothing in today, we all know what we need and we have done got no one in yet.
If FM or who ever is doing the transfers these days (FM or Ali Mac ?) cannot persuade decent players to come the the club need to look at why and the changes need to be made. This isn't the first window where the quality of signings has been lacking or we have not addressed the areas that need addressing. Central Midfield has been crying out for 4 windows now.
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
exactly, having Hugo mitro Ruiz and kaca in the squad is much better than er nope no replacements to mention.
Tunicliffe to Blackburn on loan...?
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's that think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's that think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
The man himself said he'd spend what it takes to get us back up.... His words and we are set to sign Beckford.
Khan has done nothing for this club apart from spend heavily on someone
who should never have passed a medical and had us turned in to a laughing stock with our managerial situation
He trusted certain people to do their job properly I'm sure he won't make that mistake again.
As shown by Khan's decisive move to dismiss the manager who promised to avoid relegation yet failed and who only managed to get 1 point from 15 in the new season.
United signing Romero from Sampdoria. Didnt someone say Amos was linked with us?
amos would be decent but do we need another young keeper? what about kiraly why sign him if we want amos
thou shalt not judge.
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
:plus one:
Even how bad we where last season, we wont know how well they would have done if they dont play, right now we have 5 matches 1 point, who knows what they could have done for us this season...... at least have some replacements ready.......
I say again.. Felix said that he would need young players for the new season, we have a good academy etc, and that he would send off players not good enough and bring in hes own players, Khan said he would spend to get us back up! Then when things arent going as he planed, he then says we need changes, and that he was going to get more players in. Then he sends off a bunch of players out on loan and tried to get rid of even more, but we have nothing coming in, and the only signing looking like it will happen is Beckford?
Felix has NO reliability and I personally think he is sabotaging us to get fired and get hes money!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Oh get lost. If you don't like it you're free to either ignore it or leave.
Qpr fail to agree terms with Borini....not going too well.
Leeds confirm the signing of a new striker on a 3-year deal.
Paving the way for Matt Smith to leave, perhaps?
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Quote from: Burt on September 01, 2014, 09:34:23 PM
Tunicliffe to Blackburn on loan...?
Yep. Season-long.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BweW7v6CAAATip1.jpg)
Nothing happening, Skysport is boring, full of Premiership rubbish, the wife is calling I'm off to bed!!
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on September 01, 2014, 09:03:27 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 01, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
To many assumptions based on bias, lets see what actually occurs.
The fact that were even in talks with Beckford tells you all you need to know about our ambitions. We all slated Mark Hughes when he left, but by god was he right when he said he couldn't see any ambition within the club.
Then, but that doesn't excuse now, we've got a multimillionaire at the helm!!
It always makes me laugh how easy some people would find spending other peoples money.
Without Mo's and shad's investment where would we be with our small fanbase
Some of our fan's think they know more and could do better than a proven top manager.
Some of fan's think they can do better business than a top billionaire businessman.
Its time for us to concentrate on what's happening on the pitch, and praise or criticize accordingly, because it's obvious to me anyway that the ambition is there.
Surprisingly we have mutually complementary interests. The owners want to maintain their investment and we want success.
If the owner isn't prepared to invest, then like a house owner who doesn't maintain their house, it will will degrade and decrease in value. Similarly the fans want investment to maintain or improve the status of the team.
How much money on paper has Khan lost already by being relegated? Not such a great businessman?
And here we are not even requiring Khan to dip into his own pocket but to spend some of the parachute and tv money that will otherwise sit in the bank.
I'm no businessman but surely any investor would want to not only maintain but increase the value of his investment, and success is the only way to achieve that.
So our clubs owner and our fans Both want a successful team.
True he didn't make a good start in his new business, but I would think a good business mans learning curve is smaller than average, and its in his own business interest to create a successful winning team the sooner the better.
(sorry for going off subject peeps).
Maybe we should all just wait until tomorrow morning to start bickering?
Just a thought...
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
[/quote ? Kaca has plenty of championship experience. And because we haven't played our better players it no loss? It is a huge loss when we have one point from 15. We are clearly not coping without them.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Oh get lost. If you don't like it you're free to either ignore it or leave.
So are you free to move on or ignore!
I think you must live on Pluto, with some of your posts?
Kaca confirmed in Copenhagen.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BweT0X7IIAEJGHC.jpg)
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on September 01, 2014, 09:41:29 PM
the wife is calling I'm off to bed!!
Time to transfer some david seaman eh?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on September 01, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
United signing Romero from Sampdoria. Didnt someone say Amos was linked with us?
romero not signing, utd say no more incomings today, but then they have not confirmed falcao yet
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
cant beleive Arsenal beat us to Wellbeck
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
he then says he knew the youth would not be ready, so contradicts himself, so confusing for fans how can the players feel
Riise signed for Nicosia I see...
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Thought you said you were going away?
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 09:49:07 PM
cant beleive Arsenal beat us to Wellbeck
they will sign Beckford next
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Moderators, isn't human trafficking prohibited on this website?
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 09:49:07 PM
cant beleive Arsenal beat us to Wellbeck
can't belive another top 4 club wanted him. Very average player, and man u don't strengthen rivals
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 09:49:07 PM
cant beleive Arsenal beat us to Wellbeck
Tell me about it... Plus, to be pipped to Falcao by Utd.
Where did it all go wrong??
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Moderators, isn't human trafficking prohibited on this website?
Do supporters count as human though
So far we've lost Kaca, one of our only players that can offer natural width and an experienced midfielder from this league.
I am baffled .
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
So far we've lost Kaca, one of our only players that can offer natural width and an experienced midfielder from this league.
I am baffled .
and tunniclife, between them they have more experience in this league than the whole squad barring mccormack
What's the deal with Ruiz/lovebite any news?
Quote from: Jimpav on September 01, 2014, 10:09:35 PM
What's the deal with Ruiz/lovebite any news?
doing our best to sell them
Quote from: Jimpav on September 01, 2014, 10:09:35 PM
What's the deal with Ruiz/lovebite any news?
thee is none, but we wont play him cos we want to sell him in december and dont want to risk getting him injured
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
But what do you, and others, want?
There was a massive call for youth, due to us having the oldest team (average age) inn the prem, and yet now we have possibly the youngest (average) - it's still wrong!
Also, he 'apparently' spent a huge amount on last years top goal scorer, which has also been moaned about on here!
Now he's possibly not spending 'big', although we don't know this for certain as yet, he has no ambition?
Why oh why can't we support the 'club' and wait and see?
I think there are some on here that will never do this until the manager is sacked! Then they will find another victim rather than be happy with our club. We are not and never will be Champions league winners - get over it, or really you are supporting the wrong team!
I'll add - Jol was hounded out, followed by Meulensteen and co, and now Magath...
What next? Who will supporters of Fulham accept even with inevitable losses?.
Mark Hudson gone to Huddersfield.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwehRMmIAAAJoKc.jpg)
Can't say I'm disappointed to have missed that one.
So has ruiz gone then??
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Mark Hudson gone to Huddersfield.
Can't say I'm disappointed to have missed that one.
Yeah agreed if we signed yet another centre back it would show that Felix thought the ones he bought already aren't good enough
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
But what do you, and others, want?
There was a massive call for youth, due to us having the oldest team (average age) inn the prem, and yet now we have possibly the youngest (average) - it's still wrong!
Also, he 'apparently' spent a huge amount on last years top goal scorer, which has also been moaned about on here!
Now he's possibly not spending 'big', although we don't know this for certain as yet, he has no ambition?
Why oh why can't we support the 'club' and wait and see?
I think there are some on here that will never do this until the manager is sacked! Then they will find another victim rather than be happy with our club. We are not and never will be Champions league winners - get over it, or really you are supporting the wrong team!
I'll add - Jol was hounded out, followed by Meulensteen and co, and now Magath...
What next? Who will supporters of Fulham accept even with inevitable losses?.
You can lead a horse to water my friend................
Well this is fun
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
But what do you, and others, want?
There was a massive call for youth, due to us having the oldest team (average age) inn the prem, and yet now we have possibly the youngest (average) - it's still wrong!
Also, he 'apparently' spent a huge amount on last years top goal scorer, which has also been moaned about on here!
Now he's possibly not spending 'big', although we don't know this for certain as yet, he has no ambition?
Why oh why can't we support the 'club' and wait and see?
I think there are some on here that will never do this until the manager is sacked! Then they will find another victim rather than be happy with our club. We are not and never will be Champions league winners - get over it, or really you are supporting the wrong team!
I'll add - Jol was hounded out, followed by Meulensteen and co, and now Magath...
What next? Who will supporters of Fulham accept even with inevitable losses?.
I'm sorry, but you speak a load of codswallop, and you're clear here to start a fight, or to rub someone up the wrong way. We didn't spend big on McCormack, it was 5.5M with add-ons, that I doubt we'll ever trigger, well not this season anyway. Everyone wanted youth, yes, but maybe 3 or 4 added, or bleed into the squad over the course of a season, not the whole of the under 17's / 18's thrown in at the deep end.
Kahn said money wasn't an issue, he was prepared to bank roll us back to the big time, really? All I've seen us do is cut wages, make people redundant, sell off assets, and replace them with journeymen like Fotheringham and Mihaylov.
I'm sorry pal, but this season, and this Club alone, is turning into one big fraud.
so whos everyones favourite signing today?
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 06:58:31 PM
So we cancel Hugos contract and look to replace him with Beckford well the purse is definitely locked shut
What an absolute joke Khan you need to answer a few questions if you don't pull a rabbit out the hat before the window closes
Well let's hope that Beckford does not score a hat full of goals, then you can happily say how right you were.
I love this board another player condemned before a trial.
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
But what do you, and others, want?
There was a massive call for youth, due to us having the oldest team (average age) inn the prem, and yet now we have possibly the youngest (average) - it's still wrong!
Also, he 'apparently' spent a huge amount on last years top goal scorer, which has also been moaned about on here!
Now he's possibly not spending 'big', although we don't know this for certain as yet, he has no ambition?
Why oh why can't we support the 'club' and wait and see?
I think there are some on here that will never do this until the manager is sacked! Then they will find another victim rather than be happy with our club. We are not and never will be Champions league winners - get over it, or really you are supporting the wrong team!
I'll add - Jol was hounded out, followed by Meulensteen and co, and now Magath...
What next? Who will supporters of Fulham accept even with inevitable losses?.
I'm sorry, but you speak a load of codswallop, and you're clear here to start a fight, or to rub someone up the wrong way. We didn't spend big on McCormack, it was 5.5M with add-ons, that I doubt we'll ever trigger, well not this season anyway. Everyone wanted youth, yes, but maybe 3 or 4 added, or bleed into the squad over the course of a season, not the whole of the under 17's / 18's thrown in at the deep end.
Kahn said money wasn't an issue, he was prepared to bank roll us back to the big time, really? All I've seen us do is cut wages, make people redundant, sell off assets, and replace them with journeymen like Fotheringham and Mihaylov.
I'm sorry pal, but this season, and this Club alone, is turning into one big fraud.
I said 'APPARENTLY' spent on last years top scorer! It's many on here that have stuck to that and moaned - I didn't even suggest it was you!
I'm not after a fight pal - I would prefer Fulham supporters to stick to gether and support the team!
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: SouthWest6 on September 01, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SimpleTactics on September 01, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
No one is saying any of them are a loss but why sell them when we have no replacements?
Rightly or wrongly, Rod, kaka, Mitro, amore, haven't been playing and therfore no loss.
Many supporters stated last year that we should play the 'youth' as they have won everything. We play some of them and all of a sudden they are no good? I've even seen a post that stated 'we will win nothing with youth'!
'We need players that know this league', was the next multitude of posts....
So, we get or look like getting a few 'older, championship' players and many go mad that Khan wants to take us down as he has no ambition for this club!
Well, quite clearly, he will take us down if he refuses to invest. He's also bought the fact that we can gain promotion from this division by just utilising the youth and adding a few journeymen, which in my eye's is a complete fail. We may have got rid of the like Rodders, Ruiz, Miro etc, but we've hardly strengthened as a team, or started to compete with the like of Cardiff, Norwich, Notts Forrest for quality.
But what do you, and others, want?
There was a massive call for youth, due to us having the oldest team (average age) inn the prem, and yet now we have possibly the youngest (average) - it's still wrong!
Also, he 'apparently' spent a huge amount on last years top goal scorer, which has also been moaned about on here!
Now he's possibly not spending 'big', although we don't know this for certain as yet, he has no ambition?
Why oh why can't we support the 'club' and wait and see?
I think there are some on here that will never do this until the manager is sacked! Then they will find another victim rather than be happy with our club. We are not and never will be Champions league winners - get over it, or really you are supporting the wrong team!
I'll add - Jol was hounded out, followed by Meulensteen and co, and now Magath...
What next? Who will supporters of Fulham accept even with inevitable losses?.
I'm sorry, but you speak a load of codswallop, and you're clear here to start a fight, or to rub someone up the wrong way. We didn't spend big on McCormack, it was 5.5M with add-ons, that I doubt we'll ever trigger, well not this season anyway. Everyone wanted youth, yes, but maybe 3 or 4 added, or bleed into the squad over the course of a season, not the whole of the under 17's / 18's thrown in at the deep end.
Kahn said money wasn't an issue, he was prepared to bank roll us back to the big time, really? All I've seen us do is cut wages, make people redundant, sell off assets, and replace them with journeymen like Fotheringham and Mihaylov.
I'm sorry pal, but this season, and this Club alone, is turning into one big fraud.
SW6, what is the matter with you? Bad mouthing our Chairman on here so publically. Do you want to get banned by the Mods? You should know by now that any descent will not go unpunished my friend.
You should know this, schoolboy error.
Pity, because I for one will miss your posts :)
Bye.
really we've signed players today but as we aren't in the prem and our web team never update signings until 2 days afterwards no one knows yet
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
so whos everyones favourite signing today?
Overall, I think it has to be either Fotheringham or Mihaylov, for comical purposes. If not, I'd have to cry.
Huddersfield - done deal
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Oh get lost. If you don't like it you're free to either ignore it or leave.
:plus one:
fear not lads we still got 25 minutes.
to Copenhagen - done deal
we're going to get cleverley
I am sorry but to be honest hugo wasn't ever good enough, fact,he had his purple patch at wigan and never got close to getting anywhere near that sort of level again. I am not sad to see him go but wish him well, he wasn't anything great to hang onto lets face it!! :dead horse:
we're going to get cleverly what MrN ? lol
Pay utd what they want and get cleverly on loan, lol
Quote from: nixie-ffc on September 01, 2014, 10:31:30 PM
fear not lads we still got 25 minutes.
yes, these deals are a domino effect and don't get going till 5 to 11
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Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
I wish we could sell supporters -
oh hold on....
No one would buy most so called, on here!
Why is it that anyone bought by another team is a great deal that we should have 'nicked', even if we needed to up the offer, because 'WE' have so much money?
It ain't your money boys!
Why is it that Rodallega is now a big loss when most slagged him? Same with Ruiz, Mitro, Kaca etc
Why is it that anyone we get in is useless, even before they kicked a ball?
Poor sods will be booed as soon as they step on the pitch because if Magath bought him he must be sheet and we should have bought the player Yeovil (replace with any other team) bought instead?
What a joke - you sound and think like ManUre, Chelscum, Scouse supporters.
Get real
Oh get lost. If you don't like it you're free to either ignore it or leave.
:plus one:
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Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:34:12 PM
we're going to get cleverley
I know you're kidding, but I'd take him!
He turned down £80k p/w from Villa earlier today, so you know he's as mad as Magath - they'd get on like a house on fire!
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on September 01, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
I am sorry but to be honest hugo wasn't ever good enough, fact,he had his purple patch at wigan and never got close to getting anywhere near that sort of level again. I am not sad to see him go but wish him well, he wasn't anything great to hang onto lets face it!! :dead horse:
Well said Sir.
BBCs Ian Dennis think we're about to sign Matt Smith for £500k..
Not too exciting. At least we're not getting completely ripped off.
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
Can totally see...
22:59 -- Ruiz Departs
23:01 -- Amorebieta Departs
23:02 -- Fulham Sign Beckford
23:04 -- Burn's Loan Switch
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 10:38:05 PM
BBCs Ian Dennis think we're about to sign Matt Smith for £500k..
Not too exciting. At least we're not getting completely ripped off.
Last of the big spenders
Not sorry to see him leave whatever he was being paid. Had plenty of chances, just wasn't good enough.
.....SW London
Glad about Matt Smith
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
lol
who? sounds familiar..
Would be a good signing if we did it, but I can't see it happening now. Please shad prove me wrong
Alvaro Gonzalez......rumoured to be in SW London
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
i lol'ed.
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
Has anyone told Felix that Carlton Cole, Reo Coker and David Bently can't run that fast these days - we'll never get them with policies like that! #FELIXOUT
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
but odemwingi's injured!
Good signing if we could get him
No chance. We would of heard something by now
Is he the goalie guy?
No way.
I wont believe it until I see it, to late now.....
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on September 01, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Alvaro Gonzalez......rumoured to be in SW London
If Ruiz stays, they could form a neat partnership in midfield..
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 10:42:19 PM
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
but odemwingi's injured!
actually, that makes him our sort of target :005:
Central midfielder, we have been linked with him 3 or 4 times this summer
@Iandennisbbc
BREAKING.... Matt Smith will join Fulham from Leeds United for 500k #FFC #LUFC #bbcdeadlineday
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 10:42:19 PM
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
felix has told any potential signings they must run to motspur park and get there before 11 if they want to sign
but odemwingi's injured!
Does that include swimming doen the Thames ala Walliams
Please stay Bryan!
Ian Dennis on the BBC has just reported that Matt Smith has signed for £500,000. At last!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NsWzwRY8ZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NsWzwRY8ZE)
There u go Mr B.
Ian Dennis again on Twitter, reaffirming his statements about the £500k signing of Matt Smith, now saying it's a 3 year deal and is 100% complete.
weve got dr who for 500k... great deal...
Matt Smith is a terrific signing at half a million. He won't score over twenty goals, but he'll chip in with a few, link up well with McCormack, and actually offer some physical presence up front that we've been lacking since Zamora's departure. And maybe we'll actually score a couple more from set-pieces...? I'm happy with that.
Ian Dennis @Iandennisbbc · 2m
Some Leeds fans doubting news on Matt Smith - I can tell you it's a 3 year deal he has agreed at Craven Cottage #LUFC #FFC
Maybe we are going to announce all 3 signings together? Whoever they may be
Quote from: nixie-ffc on September 01, 2014, 10:45:31 PM
weve got dr who for 500k... great deal...
I forgot to put 'footballer' at the end of Matt Smith's name when I googled him, and almost went into cardiac arrest when I saw '31 years old'.
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
Ian Dennis again on Twitter, reaffirming his statements about the £500k signing of Matt Smith, now saying it's a 3 year deal and is 100% complete.
Confirmed on the BBC website as well as his twitter feed
Another good thing about the Smith signing: even if he doesn't cut it for us, we'd be incredibly unlucky not to make a profit on that 500k transfer fee -- even when he's in the latter stages of his contract, seeing as Smith'll only be 27/28 (excluding any renewals).
not seen anything at all............
Quote from: Walsh on September 01, 2014, 10:44:04 PM
Please stay Bryan!
I'll supply with hair products for the next year if you stay :-*
Nothing in this, not even twitter has anything on tho
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Guardian journalist supporting the £500k Matt Smith story, also goes further to say the Beckford deal has collapsed. :Happy New Year 2:
Well not to bad of a goal ratio from Matt Smith, welcome to the Fulham family!
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=59625 (http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=59625)
Top quality midfielder
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham)
Official
WE'VE MADE A DEADLINE DAY SIGNING!!!
As long as we keep RUIZ I am not fussed.
Quote from: EJL on September 01, 2014, 10:48:05 PM
Another good thing about the Smith signing: even if he doesn't cut it for us, we'd be incredibly unlucky not to make a profit on that 500k transfer fee -- even when he's in the latter stages of his contract, seeing as Smith'll only be 27/28 (excluding any renewals).
Yeah, well, sod getting promoted as long as we make a few bob here and there.. self sufficient and all that..
It's already on the official site:
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham)
Quote from: brightster on September 01, 2014, 10:48:57 PM
Well not to bad of a goal ratio from Matt Smith, welcome to the Fulham family!
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=59625 (http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=59625)
And he will already have an understanding with McCormack so hopefully can hit the ground running.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham)
:doh:We've made the biggest signing of deadline day, 6ft 6ins and 16 stone
Smith will be our new number 9.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham)
Confirmed on the official site: http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/smith-signs-for-fulham)
Smith Signs For Fulham
(http://www.fulhamfc.com/-/media/hero/Players/Matt%20Smith/SmithFFChero.jpg?w=350&h=250)
Monday 1 September 2014 22:50
Fulham Football Club has this evening confirmed the signing of Matt Smith from Leeds United on a three-year deal, with an option of a further 12 months.
The deal will see the player at the Club until at least the summer of 2017.
The 25-year-old striker formed a formidable pairing with Ross McCormack at Leeds United last season, with Smith scoring 13 goals in 43 appearances. The players are now reunited in SW6.
Matt Smith arrived at Elland Road in June 2013 from Oldham Athletic. He set up an injury time winner on his Leeds debut in a 2-1 opening day victory against Brighton & Hove Albion.
He will wear the number nine shirt for the Whites.
good signing, we've always needed a proper target man
Is that it. Are we done ?
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Well, clear intentions for Khan today.
We now have a starting striker pairing that took Leeds to the dizzying-heights of 17th, last season. :hook:
Yeah so is xavi but he ain't ckminh
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More than likely, would be surprised.
Still enough time for another Zverotic
Simon Peach just confirmed it. We're done for the day.
What about out goings, are we done for that?
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Simon Peach just confirmed it. We're done for the day.
No more departures either?
just heard felix has cancelled the deal he thought his name was smit not smith
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Simon Peach just confirmed it. We're done for the day.
Urrghhhh....
Well that's disappointing.
Surely that can't be it...
Tunni loan confirmed.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/tunnicliffes-loan-deal (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/september/01/tunnicliffes-loan-deal)
More experience departing...
Ruiz better get playing time now.
I think it's fine, I'm happy. Now to get consistency in the team
to Blackburn - done deal
Fair to say we have done rather badly again.
Ruiz has gone to besiktas their transfer window is open for another week
I'm willing the put money on it
Is the Turkish league's transfer window closed as well? Some people were saying that it's open for another week, which means Ruiz could still yet leave, no?
Why have we got 6 strikers and only 2 CDMs??
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 11:02:47 PM
Fair to say we have done rather badly again.
I think you're talking it up a bit to much, we've done worse back in the old 4th division
we didnt really need another cdm although it would have been useful to have another
we have parker, hoogland, fazilic and hyndman which is enough imo
Well thank god this appalling window is shut, if anyone other than khans accountant says we have had a good window, then they need shooting. Our squad is so much weaker than when the season ended. I knew we would lose a few but this window just got ridiculous. We need a statement from khan telling us what's really going on, because its not a promotion push
Sarah Brookes confirms that's all business done..
our owner spent 500k surely that means we are destined for the prem. conference prem.
Turkish window shuts Sunday, so Ruiz will leave before then.
The fact we are done is poor one signing we are fast becoming more of a joke than we were last season. We needed a CM to help Parker and the youngsters, terrible day all round
If he can recreate last year's partnership with McCormack, it'll be a great signing.
Quote from: KP_FFC on September 01, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
we didnt really need another cdm although it would have been useful to have another
we have parker, hoogland, fazilic and hyndman which is enough imo
dont forget the fothz "hey"
So, we've lost the experienced players we needed, kept the ones that don't want to be here and hoarded bang average strikers to chip in for the reserves.
All in all underwhelming, dissapointing and I'm looking forward to a long stay in the lower leagues.
And I take it back just tweeted he's staying
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2014, 11:08:08 PM
So, we've lost the experienced players we needed, kept the ones that don't want to be here and hoarded bang average strikers to chip in for the reserves.
All in all underwhelming, dissapointing and I'm looking forward to a long stay in the lower leagues.
:plus one:
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
Quote from: KP_FFC on September 01, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
we didnt really need another cdm although it would have been useful to have another
we have parker, hoogland, fazilic and hyndman which is enough imo
dont forget the fothz "hey"
Fazilic is a younger fotheringham. Could not even get a game at bolton
Quote from: Nero on September 01, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
Quote from: KP_FFC on September 01, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
we didnt really need another cdm although it would have been useful to have another
we have parker, hoogland, fazilic and hyndman which is enough imo
dont forget the fothz "hey"
shhhhh, hoping magath forgets about him too
Quote from: KP_FFC on September 01, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
we didnt really need another cdm although it would have been useful to have another
we have parker, hoogland, fazilic and hyndman which is enough imo
Hoogland is a right back, brought in to cover CDM as Fotheringham is injured.
Hyndman is not a CDM, he's a ball-playing CM.
Fazilic is a completely unknown quantity and hasn't got anywhere near our team since arriving. Could be good, but his history suggests not.
Parker seems on the edge of injury every game at the moment. One bad tackle and he's gone..
Lately we've been playing 2 CDMs side by side. Our formation relies on it. It's an area we really needed to strengthen. After loaning Tunnicliffe, we're even weaker there than before.
I hope he hadn't been reading this thread then
He Just confirmed on twitter that he's staying
Well that was rubbish, is Bryan going to make an outing?
Craven you are spot on, I am assuming we will be going for a loan or two. Hopefully powells loan to,the foxes messes up and we can get him
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
Is the Turkish league's transfer window closed as well? Some people were saying that it's open for another week, which means Ruiz could still yet leave, no?
Turkish transfer window was closed 10 pm UK time today. Plus, Besiktas have signed Jose Sosa from Metalist Kharkiv for the same position.
Despite offers from other clubs Rodders is staying. Well I just hope he is given more of a chance.
Quote from: gezkc on September 01, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
If he can recreate last year's partnership with McCormack, it'll be a great signing.
All we need now is someone to get the ball to them! Maybe that player is coming in January then...
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 11:05:11 PM
Well thank god this appalling window is shut, if anyone other than khans accountant says we have had a good window, then they need shooting. Our squad is so much weaker than when the season ended. I knew we would lose a few but this window just got ridiculous. We need a statement from khan telling us what's really going on, because its not a promotion push
Our squad was stronger at the end of last season. What an insane statement. There is hardly one player who has left I would have back. Perhaps Stockdale & Richardson. Not even Ashkan (45 minutes) Dejagah.
im actually surprised weve kept kiraly, parker and mccormack. maybe theyll be gone in january.
Hugo has just tweeted:Gracias por todo el interés mostrado de todos los equipos pero e decidido seguir con el @FulhamFC GRACIAS fans
Translated: Thanks for all the interest shown by all teams but decided to stick with the team of Fulham - Thank you fans
He's the pace option then!
Quote from: Fulham76 on September 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: gezkc on September 01, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
If he can recreate last year's partnership with McCormack, it'll be a great signing.
All we need now is someone to get the ball to them! Maybe that player is coming in January then...
You mean like Chris David, Thomas Eisfeld, or Hyndman?
Quote from: Fulham76 on September 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: gezkc on September 01, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
If he can recreate last year's partnership with McCormack, it'll be a great signing.
All we need now is someone to get the ball to them! Maybe that player is coming in January then...
...we can all dream, until then fotheringham it is then
Quote from: XXI on September 01, 2014, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
Is the Turkish league's transfer window closed as well? Some people were saying that it's open for another week, which means Ruiz could still yet leave, no?
Turkish transfer window was closed 10 pm UK time today. Plus, Besiktas have signed Jose Sosa from Metalist Kharkiv for the same position.
Open till the 6th same as Russia
So does Felix who was in charge of transfers not contracts claim this is a good window. We hope to bring in two or three turns out to be one and we lose Kaka, Tunnicliffe and The Greek out on loan.
Nobody can say Felix hasn't had time. It is his squad now.
Hopefully now the window is shut Felix will start using his WHOLE SQUAD and will cease with the freezing out of certain players.
Wont hold my breath.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
So does Felix who was in charge of transfers not contracts claim this is a good window. We hope to bring in two or three turns out to be one and we lose Kaka, Tunnicliffe and The Greek out on loan.
Nobody can say Felix hasn't had time. It is his squad now.
Exactly. No more excuses. No more blaming old managers.
His team. His responsibility. His duty to get results.
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
Hugo has just tweeted:Gracias por todo el interés mostrado de todos los equipos pero e decidido seguir con el @FulhamFC GRACIAS fans
Translated: Thanks for all the interest shown by all teams but decided to stick with the team of Fulham - Thank you fans
He's the pace option then!
Thought his contract had been cancelled? Does this mean he's resigned for 10k a week?
Quote from: grandad on September 01, 2014, 11:12:40 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 11:05:11 PM
Well thank god this appalling window is shut, if anyone other than khans accountant says we have had a good window, then they need shooting. Our squad is so much weaker than when the season ended. I knew we would lose a few but this window just got ridiculous. We need a statement from khan telling us what's really going on, because its not a promotion push
Our squad was stronger at the end of last season. What an insane statement. There is hardly one player who has left I would have back. Perhaps Stockdale & Richardson. Not even Ashkan (45 minutes) Dejagah.
really, what positions are we stronger in? Certainly not keepers. I don't believe McCormack and smith are better than Hugo and nitro but they might do a job in this season. Bodarov better than heitinga? Burn was already here. Richardson is better than staffy and Ashman would have been great in this league.
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 11:19:57 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
Hugo has just tweeted:Gracias por todo el interés mostrado de todos los equipos pero e decidido seguir con el @FulhamFC GRACIAS fans
Translated: Thanks for all the interest shown by all teams but decided to stick with the team of Fulham - Thank you fans
He's the pace option then!
Thought his contract had been cancelled? Does this mean he's resigned for 10k a week?
no just more nonsense being spread
Quote from: MrProphet on September 01, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: XXI on September 01, 2014, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on September 01, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
Is the Turkish league's transfer window closed as well? Some people were saying that it's open for another week, which means Ruiz could still yet leave, no?
Turkish transfer window was closed 10 pm UK time today. Plus, Besiktas have signed Jose Sosa from Metalist Kharkiv for the same position.
Open till the 6th same as Russia
Well, I'm Turkish and I support Besiktas as well as Fulham and I can confirm that the transfer window in Turkey is closed and Besiktas fans are furious as the club failed to sign a right back. As for Ruiz, it was thought that he was going to sign for Besiktas yesterday as he started following the club's twitter account but the club opted to sign Jose Sosa instead.
Maybe a couple of prem quality loans planned, I don't think there was any real must buy players available. Matt smith is the player we needed for mcCormack to do his stuff.
Quote from: maoconnor on September 01, 2014, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on September 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: gezkc on September 01, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
If he can recreate last year's partnership with McCormack, it'll be a great signing.
All we need now is someone to get the ball to them! Maybe that player is coming in January then...
You mean like Chris David, Thomas Eisfeld, or Hyndman?
Yes, exactly that. Just like they've been doing all season! Without them we'd probably be bottom 3....
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
So does Felix who was in charge of transfers not contracts claim this is a good window. We hope to bring in two or three turns out to be one and we lose Kaka, Tunnicliffe and The Greek out on loan.
Nobody can say Felix hasn't had time. It is his squad now.
Exactly. No more excuses. No more blaming old managers.
His team. His responsibility. His duty to get results.
Bang on.
I'm quietly optimistic.
Quote from: Barrett487 on September 01, 2014, 11:19:57 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
Hugo has just tweeted:Gracias por todo el interés mostrado de todos los equipos pero e decidido seguir con el @FulhamFC GRACIAS fans
Translated: Thanks for all the interest shown by all teams but decided to stick with the team of Fulham - Thank you fans
He's the pace option then!
Thought his contract had been cancelled? Does this mean he's resigned for 10k a week?
No, he's definitely still with us.
Probably means he couldn't get better money elsewhere.
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
Maybe a couple of prem quality loans planned, I don't think there was any real must buy players available. Matt smith is the player we needed for mcCormack to do his stuff.
yes could be a dream team, although I think Woodrow has been doing a job
Decent signing, this...
With what we have left, this is my preferred lineup. [4-3-3]
Bettinelli
Voser Bodurov D.Burn Stafylidis
Parker
David Hyndman
Ruiz Ross
Smith
so after 5 games of not picking lovebite and bryan where they may have help the team to more then 1 point we can now play them what a waste, i do wonder about our manager sometime
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2014, 11:29:52 PM
With what we have left, this is my preferred lineup. [4-3-3]
http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=4d21 (http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=4d21)
I see you dropped our leading goalscorer..... Parker worries me as a DM, pirouetting is for ice-skaters and he loses the ball too often.
So what's the latest date that we could lose players to foreign countries or by loan
November?
Very happy we kept hugo it was guillem balleague (terrible spelling) that said we cancelled his contract and that he was close to agreeing a deal with Levante
Leeds sell Matt Smith only because they were bring in Becchio. Who then changed his mind and went off to Rotherham or somewhere. Leeds fans are as unimpressed as we are.
I'm sure to honest, I think we have quite a while to loan in and out
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2014, 11:25:36 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 01, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
Maybe a couple of prem quality loans planned, I don't think there was any real must buy players available. Matt smith is the player we needed for mcCormack to do his stuff.
yes could be a dream team, although I think Woodrow has been doing a job
Im sure Woodrow will still get playing time, lots of potential.
We signed a striker (Smith) that has played very successfully with McCormack, and he is only 25 years of age, for a meager 500K.
We kept Bryan Ruiz, so now FM may see no option but to play him, and could form quite the partnership with David and Hyndman.
Kaka has signed a new contract with us, he will be getting much desired experience, we don't pay his wages, and he will return to us a better player for it.
Tunni is also out on loan, albeit I wish we had utilized him, but again at least he is not wasting away and could be recalled to play for us if needed with some added game time.
Mitroglou is off to regain some form and glory with Olympiakos. He may perform well over there, and we a good chunk of change for him come January for him from a club, or FM (or whoever the manager is) will be able to recall him and use him.
Rodallega is still with us, and although many may not rate him, we definitely have depth in the forward line and can use him as needed.
Also, with so little new players (unless we get some loaned players in) we now have two weeks until Reading to solidify what we saw against Cardiff. More stability with so few changes to the squad, and Ruiz and Smith could be introduced in training and then help us climb the table!
Lovebite...I mean more defensive depth? eh....
-Mike.
(P.S. please don't crucify me for this post, I agree it was a very dull window and potentially damaging for us).
just looking at first team squadon the website we 3 goalkeepers 10 defenders 8 midfielders 9 forwards with smith. i know that some like roberts and williams are forwards to speak of but we do look top heavy up front
Well I suspect that Woodrow is a much better player than Smith but we really do need a big tall target man to provide an option when we just can't crack a tight defence.
Smith is a great signing for us but we now have a surplus of strikers, Dembele, Woodrow, Rodders, McCormac, Smith, Trotta and Chihi , a couple of them should have moved on.
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
Well I suspect that Woodrow is a much better player than Smith but we really do need a big tall target man to provide an option when we just can't crack a tight defence.
Smith is a great signing for us but we now have a surplus of strikers, Dembele, Woodrow, Rodders, McCormac, Smith, Trotta and Chihi , a couple of them should have moved on.
most of those are still kids, no reason to move them on at all
isnt our new signing gonna think 'is mccormack 20 times better player than i am?'
how would u feel if your co worker was being paid 20 times more than you for the same job?
Quote from: nixie-ffc on September 02, 2014, 12:28:05 AM
isnt our new signing gonna think 'is mccormack 20 times better player than i am?'
how would u feel if your co worker was being paid 20 times more than you for the same job?
How much are they getting paid? £2k a week and £40k a week? £1k and £20k?
Quote from: God The Mechanic on September 02, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on September 02, 2014, 12:28:05 AM
isnt our new signing gonna think 'is mccormack 20 times better player than i am?'
how would u feel if your co worker was being paid 20 times more than you for the same job?
How much are they getting paid? £2k a week and £40k a week? £1k and £20k?
i should have said 'is mccormack worth 20 times more than me?'
The real quality lies hidden in premier league squads, hopefully that's where we'll be looking for a couple of players on loan that will the allay fears of pending doom.
These players don't come cheap, so there you go loads of money.
If this doesn't happen then I must agree, it would have been a pretty poor window if were looking to push for promotion.
Quote from: premFlem on September 02, 2014, 01:19:50 AM
The real quality lies hidden in premier league squads, hopefully that's where we'll be looking for a couple of players on loan that will the allay fears of pending doom.
These players don't come cheap, so there you go loads of money.
If this doesn't happen then I must agree, it would have been a pretty poor window if were looking to push for promotion.
Magath doesn't seem to like players who are not fully committed to the club and this seems to include the idea of loan signings.
Regarding ruiz, isnt the dutch transfer window still open?
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on September 02, 2014, 01:27:51 AM
Quote from: premFlem on September 02, 2014, 01:19:50 AM
The real quality lies hidden in premier league squads, hopefully that's where we'll be looking for a couple of players on loan that will the allay fears of pending doom.
These players don't come cheap, so there you go loads of money.
If this doesn't happen then I must agree, it would have been a pretty poor window if were looking to push for promotion.
Magath doesn't seem to like players who are not fully committed to the club and this seems to include the idea of loan signings.
Maybe he's not as rigid as he makes out or made out to be, or genuinely feels he has enough options already . time will tell
Which Championship signing would have improved us?"Serious " question.
Quote from: nixie-ffc on September 02, 2014, 01:07:15 AM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on September 02, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: nixie-ffc on September 02, 2014, 12:28:05 AM
isnt our new signing gonna think 'is mccormack 20 times better player than i am?'
how would u feel if your co worker was being paid 20 times more than you for the same job?
How much are they getting paid? £2k a week and £40k a week? £1k and £20k?
i should have said 'is mccormack worth 20 times more than me?'
Does anyone really think like that? Bale isn't better than Ronaldo because of the fee. Smith isn't better than Lewandowski. Many factors come into play, and from all accounts Smith and McCormack were pretty decent together at Leeds so I doubt they'll even think of how much each other costs.
Also the McCormack fee is a potential total, not what he has cost at this point. If he scores the goals to take us up I doubt anyone will question his value.
Rodders didn't stay because he wanted too, no club would pay him any where near what we would. Spoke to 3 clubs apparently yesterday. Sadly we are stuck with his high wage for low output.
Yes he has pace, yes he can control the ball and yes he can shoot, sadly he can't do any of these things well or consistently
Awful window from Fulham.... How we have not addressed our biggest problem is baffling....
Buying Matt Smith, who looks set to replace Woodrow makes me disgusted.... What a joke club we have become
Matt Smith is a decent player no more no less, he had a good partnership with McC last season so assuming that's why we went for him. Cauley will be a good player, if he had stuck the one away before half time last week his confidence would have soared and who knows if we would have gone for Smith yesterday,for me having him and Smith to compliment McC is a good idea.
I disagree WW, imo he is a poor player, Ok he worked well with RM last season, but RM was having his one good season in 5, so everything looked good. My Oldham supporting mate, has said he is ok at league one, but nothing to get excited about.
If we wanted a big man up front who is good at holding onto the ball, we should have looked to Marcello Trotta who is more prolific, and is a decent footballer. MS offers us nothing more than route one football....
No width, an abundance of bang average strikers, no defensive midfielders and our best players excluded completely from the squad. Oh, and we've loaned out our experienced midfielder to Championship competitors (albeit they're likely to be competing at the right end of the table)
Absolutely fantastic.
Up the creek without a paddle, I think. No doubt awful run into January and a few panic buys ala Mitrogolou to keep us up. Genuinely think we're going to struggle never mind go up.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 02, 2014, 09:00:05 AM
No width, an abundance of bang average strikers, no defensive midfielders and our best players excluded completely from the squad. Oh, and we've loaned out our experienced midfielder to Championship competitors (albeit they're likely to be competing at the right end of the table)
Absolutely fantastic.
Up the creek without a paddle, I think. No doubt awful run into January and a few panic buys ala Mitrogolou to keep us up. Genuinely think we're going to struggle never mind go up.
+1.... RT going to Blackburn sums up exactly what sort of joke club we have become, absolute shambles
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on September 02, 2014, 08:18:13 AM
I disagree WW, imo he is a poor player, Ok he worked well with RM last season, but RM was having his one good season in 5, so everything looked good. My Oldham supporting mate, has said he is ok at league one, but nothing to get excited about.
If we wanted a big man up front who is good at holding onto the ball, we should have looked to Marcello Trotta who is more prolific, and is a decent footballer. MS offers us nothing more than route one football....
I didnt say he was good I said he was decent, Trotta should have been given a shot I 1000% agree but for what ever reason no manager has ever wanted to give him that at Fulham (which makes me wonder but that's a different discussion). As I said I can only assume he was bought due to their partnership last season, so from that perspective maybe it is a good idea. I far from said he was a good player!!
Agree with all who think Trotta should have been given a chance with the first team. All he has ever done wherever he has played is score goals. Have Fulham's managers and executives not been aware of this? During the relegation battle and this season, did the team not need a proven goal scorer? Why does the club turn its back on players like Trotta and Stockdale who have shown the quality to be real assets, when such assets are sorely needed?
It's the new Fulham really. New owner, new manager, seems they remove as much of the personnel past as possible, and start over. Whether that is smart or not, we shall see, but ego's are always involved and both Magath and Khan have had success in their previous endeavors, so I am sure as a collective they believe in their individual visions.
One the final day, we didn't get much business done but, as a window we did ok, maybe not enough quality but we shall see.
Smith
Kiraly
McCormack
Hutchinson
Hoogland
Stafy
Bodurov
Voser
Cassola
Eisfeld
Fotheringham
Fazlic
Chihi
Taggart
