And so it begins ..
All Fulham related transfer rumours and news here please, remembering that this is the official silly season January transfer thread.
Sources: Nottingham Forest and West Brom among six clubs racing to sign Aston Villa star Davis
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Six Championship clubs have contacted Aston Villa about signing Keinan Davis in January, Football Insider can exclusively reveal.
This site broke the news on 24 November of Norwich City's interest in the 23-year-old striker as Villa prepare to listen to offers for him next month.
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https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-nottingham-forest-and-west-brom-among-six-clubs-racing-to-sign-aston-villa-star-davis/
The statistics are not very encouraging, surely we can do better?
Never believe an article that links a player with multiple clubs. It's an agent leak to build interest.
Quote from: dfwilson84 on December 25, 2021, 02:30:56 PM
Never believe an article that links a player with multiple clubs. It's an agent leak to build interest.
The opposite is true, every club will be looking to buy him and they are all interested in him so talking to his agent. Fulham would be interested at the right price and probably indicating something to his agent, we have a few strikers so would likely only bid £500k, which is unlikely to be the highest bidder for a player that was valued by other clubs around £4 million in the summer.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 25, 2021, 10:29:37 PM
Quote from: dfwilson84 on December 25, 2021, 02:30:56 PM
Never believe an article that links a player with multiple clubs. It's an agent leak to build interest.
The opposite is true, every club will be looking to buy him and they are all interested in him so talking to his agent. Fulham would be interested at the right price and probably indicating something to his agent, we have a few strikers so would likely only bid £500k, which is unlikely to be the highest bidder for a player that was valued by other clubs around £4 million in the summer.
If you say so.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 25, 2021, 10:29:37 PM
The opposite is true, every club will be looking to buy him and they are all interested in him so talking to his agent. Fulham would be interested at the right price and probably indicating something to his agent, we have a few strikers so would likely only bid £500k, which is unlikely to be the highest bidder for a player that was valued by other clubs around £4 million in the summer.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or just over-indulged on the Christmas Lunch beverages...
Quote from: Jamie88 on December 25, 2021, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 25, 2021, 10:29:37 PM
Quote from: dfwilson84 on December 25, 2021, 02:30:56 PM
Never believe an article that links a player with multiple clubs. It's an agent leak to build interest.
The opposite is true, every club will be looking to buy him and they are all interested in him so talking to his agent. Fulham would be interested at the right price and probably indicating something to his agent, we have a few strikers so would likely only bid £500k, which is unlikely to be the highest bidder for a player that was valued by other clubs around £4 million in the summer.
If you say so.
It would be interesting to read those other clubs' fanboards and see what they are saying, that tends to firm up such stories, or destroy them totally.
Quote from: davew on December 25, 2021, 02:25:23 PM
The statistics are not very encouraging, surely we can do better?
Sounds as if he would soon find his place in the pecking order behind Stansfield and Muniz. We don't need to add depth but instead to add one outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job so to get someone better is not going to be easy and is going to cost us big money, but that is where our effort should be directed.
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2021, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: davew on December 25, 2021, 02:25:23 PM
The statistics are not very encouraging, surely we can do better?
Sounds as if he would soon find his place in the pecking order behind Stansfield and Muniz. We don't need to add depth but instead to add one outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job so to get someone better is not going to be easy and is going to cost us big money, but that is where our effort should be directed.
Would think we would do better to get someone who might push Wilson to play to his potential.
Unless Muniz is going to start to produce what I would call our plan B, alternative to when Mitro isn't doing it, I still think we need some more attacking prowess to relieve some of the burden on Mitro. We'll certainly need it if we go up and I think we're starting to see we kinda need it now.
Bad run of results for us yet we're still top. We really need a decent run to cement the position and get some breathing room between top 2 and third.
outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job
Oh do I agree with this,
Love Kebano but we do need a freescoring left winger. Crystal Palace have limped along in the Prem with one outstanding winger.
Wilson needs to bring a bit more to party also before his fee begins to look a little topy.
Joe rodon cb?
Quote from: Andyb on December 27, 2021, 07:07:50 AM
Joe rodon cb?
Rodon is the type of player we need and could probably get. It would help us if he could play on the left side.
We already have a decent squad with depth for this season so IMO any signings made in January must be with a view to being a starter and someone who could help us next season if we are promoted. We don't need any more bench warmers.
Quote from: Whitestone on December 27, 2021, 07:33:23 AM
Quote from: Andyb on December 27, 2021, 07:07:50 AM
Joe rodon cb?
Rodon is the type of player we need and could probably get. It would help us if he could play on the left side.
We already have a decent squad with depth for this season so IMO any signings made in January must be with a view to being a starter and someone who could help us next season if we are promoted. We don't need any more bench warmers.
6 feet 4 inches in height certainly measures up to the kind of player and defender we need, we really need to toughen up, providing he measures up. We need to off load the niceties and be more aggressive and physical, not just in getting promoted but to maintain our membership of the Premier League if we manage to get there.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on December 27, 2021, 07:33:23 AM
Quote from: Andyb on December 27, 2021, 07:07:50 AM
Joe rodon cb?
Rodon is the type of player we need and could probably get. It would help us if he could play on the left side.
We already have a decent squad with depth for this season so IMO any signings made in January must be with a view to being a starter and someone who could help us next season if we are promoted. We don't need any more bench warmers.
Loan to buy I think he'd be a good signing. We must have a back 5 + a DM that have played together before season end. That gives us a chance against most outside the top 6
6 feet 4 inches in height certainly measures up to the kind of player and defender we need, we really need to toughen up, providing he measures up. We need to off load the niceties and be more aggressive and physical, not just in getting promoted but to maintain our membership of the Premier League if we manage to get there.
Quote from: Fernhurst on December 26, 2021, 09:30:37 PM
outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job
Oh do I agree with this,
Love Kebano but we do need a freescoring left winger. Crystal Palace have limped along in the Prem with one outstanding winger.
Wilson needs to bring a bit more to party also before his fee begins to look a little topy.
Gareth Bale is coming to the end of his contract and the media are speculating on a new club for him. Come on TK surprise us all and sign Bale on a short loan contract that will see him at the Cottage until the end of the season. It could prove a promotion clincher.
Yea, let's completely bankrupt the club so Gareth bale can alternate playing pitch n putt and keeping the bench warm for 6 months
Gareth Bale is the biggest waster of talent I have ever seen
The man has no commitment to a team
Lets keep pensioners in the JH(Stevenage Road) Stand and not on the pitch.
600K a week Gareth Bale signing for a championship side...... that doesn't sound like too much Christmas sherry, but excessive narcotic indulgence
Bale is right up there with potentially great players who've thrown away their talent and opportunity.
Quote from: filham on December 27, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on December 26, 2021, 09:30:37 PM
outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job
Oh do I agree with this,
Love Kebano but we do need a freescoring left winger. Crystal Palace have limped along in the Prem with one outstanding winger.
Wilson needs to bring a bit more to party also before his fee begins to look a little topy.
Gareth Bale is coming to the end of his contract and the media are speculating on a new club for him. Come on TK surprise us all and sign Bale on a short loan contract that will see him at the Cottage until the end of the season. It could prove a promotion clincher.
No thanks we don't need Big Time Charlie's and Bale is a big Charlie !!
Quote from: Twig on December 27, 2021, 11:15:06 PM
Bale is right up there with potentially great players who've thrown away their talent and opportunity.
I genuinely don't understand this comment. There have been dozens of hyper talented players over the years that have failed to produce. Ravel Morrison is one that springs to mind in the last decade, but there are many examples. Gareth Bale has had an outstanding career. See his honours list below. Could he have achieved more? Perhaps, if he had stayed injury free, but Johnny Haynes could have been the World Cup winning captain had he been injury free, and his list of career achievements is not a patch on Bale's.
Tottenham Hotspur
Football League/EFL Cup runner-up: 2008–09,[290] 2020–21[291]
Real Madrid
La Liga: 2016–17,[292] 2019–20[163]
Copa del Rey: 2013–14[293]
Supercopa de España: 2017[294]
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14,[295] 2015–16,[296] 2016–17,[297] 2017–18[298]
UEFA Super Cup: 2014,[299] 2017[300]
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014,[301] 2017,[302] 2018[303]
Individual
Tottenham Hotspur Young Player of the Year: 2009–10,[304] 2010–11[305]
Tottenham Hotspur Player of the Year: 2012–13[306]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2011,[307] 2013[308]
UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2015–16[309]
Welsh Footballer of the Year: 2010,[49] 2011,[310] 2013,[311] 2014,[312] 2015,[313] 2016[314]
ESM Team of the Year: 2012–13[315]
The Football Manager Team of the Decade: 2015[316]
Premier League Player of the Month: April 2010, January 2012, February 2013[317]
PFA Team of the Year: 2006–07 Championship,[318] 2010–11 Premier League,[54] 2011–12 Premier League,[319] 2012–13 Premier League[84]
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2010–11,[54] 2012–13[84]
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2012–13[84]
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2012–13[320]
Premier League Player of the Season: 2012–13[317]
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball: 2018[321]
BBC Wales Carwyn James Junior Sportsman of the Year: 2006[19]
Football Association of Wales Young Player of the Year: 2007[322]
BBC Wales Sports Personality of the Year: 2010[323]
The only way Bale has underachieved or wasted talent, is if you consider he should have been Messi/Ronaldo I guess. Not exactly a strong argument but hey.
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 28, 2021, 11:42:28 AM
The only way Bale has underachieved or wasted talent, is if you consider he should have been Messi/Ronaldo I guess. Not exactly a strong argument but hey.
Of course in my eyes he is no Tosh Chamberlin but I expect his bank balance is bigger.
Quote from: bencher on December 28, 2021, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: Twig on December 27, 2021, 11:15:06 PM
Bale is right up there with potentially great players who've thrown away their talent and opportunity.
I genuinely don't understand this comment. There have been dozens of hyper talented players over the years that have failed to produce. Ravel Morrison is one that springs to mind in the last decade, but there are many examples. Gareth Bale has had an outstanding career. See his honours list below. Could he have achieved more? Perhaps, if he had stayed injury free, but Johnny Haynes could have been the World Cup winning captain had he been injury free, and his list of career achievements is not a patch on Bale's.
Tottenham Hotspur
Football League/EFL Cup runner-up: 2008–09,[290] 2020–21[291]
Real Madrid
La Liga: 2016–17,[292] 2019–20[163]
Copa del Rey: 2013–14[293]
Supercopa de España: 2017[294]
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14,[295] 2015–16,[296] 2016–17,[297] 2017–18[298]
UEFA Super Cup: 2014,[299] 2017[300]
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014,[301] 2017,[302] 2018[303]
Individual
Tottenham Hotspur Young Player of the Year: 2009–10,[304] 2010–11[305]
Tottenham Hotspur Player of the Year: 2012–13[306]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2011,[307] 2013[308]
UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2015–16[309]
Welsh Footballer of the Year: 2010,[49] 2011,[310] 2013,[311] 2014,[312] 2015,[313] 2016[314]
ESM Team of the Year: 2012–13[315]
The Football Manager Team of the Decade: 2015[316]
Premier League Player of the Month: April 2010, January 2012, February 2013[317]
PFA Team of the Year: 2006–07 Championship,[318] 2010–11 Premier League,[54] 2011–12 Premier League,[319] 2012–13 Premier League[84]
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2010–11,[54] 2012–13[84]
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2012–13[84]
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2012–13[320]
Premier League Player of the Season: 2012–13[317]
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball: 2018[321]
BBC Wales Carwyn James Junior Sportsman of the Year: 2006[19]
Football Association of Wales Young Player of the Year: 2007[322]
BBC Wales Sports Personality of the Year: 2010[323]
I was referring t the fact that he appears to have been happy to sit on the bench (or even miss out on a spot on the bench) through most of his seasons at Madrid. The honours he has "won" there have been mainly as a squad member, little more. Yes he is earning mega bucks, but for such a talented player in his prime years I would have thought he would have wanted to play for a club where he was a first choice pick not an afterthought.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2021, 11:23:51 PM
Quote from: filham on December 27, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on December 26, 2021, 09:30:37 PM
outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job
Oh do I agree with this,
Love Kebano but we do need a freescoring left winger. Crystal Palace have limped along in the Prem with one outstanding winger.
Wilson needs to bring a bit more to party also before his fee begins to look a little topy.
Gareth Bale is coming to the end of his contract and the media are speculating on a new club for him. Come on TK surprise us all and sign Bale on a short loan contract that will see him at the Cottage until the end of the season. It could prove a promotion clincher.
No thanks we don't need Big Time Charlie's and Bale is a big Charlie !!
I had similar thoughts when we signed George Best but I will never forget that season, he was just magnificent.
How the hell has a transfer thread turned into a tread about Gareth Bale? :doh:
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 28, 2021, 07:12:40 PM
How the hell has a transfer thread turned into a tread about Gareth Bale? :doh:
What's even more bonkers is that some wouldn't want him at Fulham. The guy would be a game changer for us.
Quote from: filham on December 28, 2021, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2021, 11:23:51 PM
Quote from: filham on December 27, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on December 26, 2021, 09:30:37 PM
outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job
Oh do I agree with this,
Love Kebano but we do need a freescoring left winger. Crystal Palace have limped along in the Prem with one outstanding winger.
Wilson needs to bring a bit more to party also before his fee begins to look a little topy.
Gareth Bale is coming to the end of his contract and the media are speculating on a new club for him. Come on TK surprise us all and sign Bale on a short loan contract that will see him at the Cottage until the end of the season. It could prove a promotion clincher.
No thanks we don't need Big Time Charlie's and Bale is a big Charlie !!
I had similar thoughts when we signed George Best but I will never forget that season, he was just magnificent.
There is no comparison, George Best was no big time charlie like Bale, far from it.
Best played before the tackle from behind was outlawed and the pitches were mud heaps and cabbage patches, in fact the main difference was that he played against men. Whereas these days you cannot tackle anybody anymore and Bale has played in an era where falling over as soon as an opponent says boo without feeling any shame appears to represent the generations of big girls blouses football is continuing to breed in the 21st Century.
So between the pair, i know who i would choose 10 times out of 10.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 28, 2021, 07:12:40 PM
How the hell has a transfer thread turned into a tread about Gareth Bale? :doh:
I agree. Time to move on.
It's a waste to spend all our money on Gareth Bale, over the next couple of seasons whether promoted or not we need to bring in long-term replacements for Odoi, Ream, Kongolo, Mawson, Seri, Cairney, Kebano and Reid.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 29, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
It's a waste to spend all our money on Gareth Bale, over the next couple of seasons whether promoted or not we need to bring in long-term replacements for Odoi, Ream, Kongolo, Mawson, Seri, Cairney, Kebano and Reid.
I think we all recognise it would not be money well spent. We definitely need to move on.
Any new rumours anyone?
Cardiff C/F will keep Mitro Buzzed up great option chasing a goal.
We need a promotion winning signing! if Silva wants that player the club must deliver.He seems to like the Swansea lad.
Quote from: Whitestone on December 28, 2021, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 28, 2021, 07:12:40 PM
How the hell has a transfer thread turned into a tread about Gareth Bale? :doh:
What's even more bonkers is that some wouldn't want him at Fulham. The guy would be a game changer for us.
That is the answer to the question. What we need in this window is not just another squad player who will give the manager more options and squad depth but a real game changer.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 28, 2021, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: filham on December 28, 2021, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2021, 11:23:51 PM
Quote from: filham on December 27, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on December 26, 2021, 09:30:37 PM
outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job
Oh do I agree with this,
Love Kebano but we do need a freescoring left winger. Crystal Palace have limped along in the Prem with one outstanding winger.
Wilson needs to bring a bit more to party also before his fee begins to look a little topy.
Gareth Bale is coming to the end of his contract and the media are speculating on a new club for him. Come on TK surprise us all and sign Bale on a short loan contract that will see him at the Cottage until the end of the season. It could prove a promotion clincher.
No thanks we don't need Big Time Charlie's and Bale is a big Charlie !!
I had similar thoughts when we signed George Best but I will never forget that season, he was just magnificent.
There is no comparison, George Best was no big time charlie like Bale, far from it.
Best played before the tackle from behind was outlawed and the pitches were mud heaps and cabbage patches, in fact the main difference was that he played against men. Whereas these days you cannot tackle anybody anymore and Bale has played in an era where falling over as soon as an opponent says boo without feeling any shame appears to represent the generations of big girls blouses football is continuing to breed in the 21st Century.
So between the pair, i know who i would choose 10 times out of 10.
Agree on your Best/Bale comparison but when Best came to us we thought he was motivated by the thought of an easy ride with a good pay packet. He then provided us with a display of great entertaining football and gave the team a real spark. We now have similar thoughts about Bale, again we could be wrong, he could turn into a promotion clincher.
https://twitter.com/dtransferencias/status/1476494441456226306
Translated:
"West Ham United will start talks with Fulham over the services of Tosin Adarabioyo, according to journalist @Ekremkonur.
The 24-year-old defender has a contract with the "Cottagers" until June 2023 and has a market value of 15 million euros"
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 30, 2021, 11:03:42 AM
https://twitter.com/dtransferencias/status/1476494441456226306
Translated:
"West Ham United will start talks with Fulham over the services of Tosin Adarabioyo, according to journalist @Ekremkonur.
The 24-year-old defender has a contract with the "Cottagers" until June 2023 and has a market value of 15 million euros"
15m :005:
We have Kongolo, Merson and Hector all fit at the moment and ready to slip into Tosin's place and perhaps the cash received could be used on a quality wide left player.
However our back four are performing well and no way should they be disturbed. Offer West Ham one of the other three.
Quote from: filham on December 30, 2021, 12:06:59 PM
We have Kongolo, Merson and Hector all fit at the moment and ready to slip into Tosin's place and perhaps the cash received could be used on a quality wide left player.
However our back four are performing well and no way should they be disturbed. Offer West Ham one of the other three.
Filham - is Kongolo fit?
Quote from: JimOG on December 30, 2021, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: filham on December 30, 2021, 12:06:59 PM
We have Kongolo, Merson and Hector all fit at the moment and ready to slip into Tosin's place and perhaps the cash received could be used on a quality wide left player.
However our back four are performing well and no way should they be disturbed. Offer West Ham one of the other three.
Never sure about Kongolo, we get reports that he is ready to resume training then it all goes quiet.
However no reason why we should not offer him to Wet Spam for a reasonable fee.
Filham - is Kongolo fit?
Just realised that Seri will be off to the African Cup of Nations, and Kebano too?
We might actually need to consider dipping into the transfer market for some cover depending on fitness of our squad
Just Seri. Congo didn't qualify.
The awful thought about this window is the possibility of our best players , Mitro, Tosin, Robinson, Seri being snatched by bigger clubs late in the window leaving us searching in a panic to find leftover replacements with little time left.
Tosin is key for us. Does he have £10m release clause? and does that oblige us to let him go? I certainly hope not.
Quote from: Whitesideup on December 31, 2021, 12:12:14 PM
Tosin is key for us. Does he have £10m release clause? and does that oblige us to let him go? I certainly hope not.
At a price of £10m I would expect a queue at the Cottage door on the first day that the window opens.
Quote from: Whitesideup on December 31, 2021, 12:12:14 PM
Tosin is key for us. Does he have £10m release clause? and does that oblige us to let him go? I certainly hope not.
No he doesnt
From Twitter
( #RCCelta ) Okay Yokuslu, heading to another destination.
❌ The Celta player has offers in Spain and France, but prioritizes those he has in England.
✅ Fulham is the one that has been most interested in him.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 31, 2021, 02:08:01 PM
From Twitter
( #RCCelta ) Okay Yokuslu, heading to another destination.
❌ The Celta player has offers in Spain and France, but prioritizes those he has in England.
✅ Fulham is the one that has been most interested in him.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-emerged-strongly-players-signature-club-opened-exit-door/
As a team on the up, hopefully like the days of Tigana (maybe thats a bit too optimistic) we really should only be removing any deadwood and signing players who will bring extra quality to the team.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 31, 2021, 02:08:01 PM
From Twitter
( #RCCelta ) Okay Yokuslu, heading to another destination.
❌ The Celta player has offers in Spain and France, but prioritizes those he has in England.
✅ Fulham is the one that has been most interested in him.
Can't remember much about him but I think he did OK at WBA last season?
We've been linked with this gent...any good
Just OK
Do people not read the transfer thread before posting ? :022:
We are awash with midfielders. Don´t needanother one.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 31, 2021, 07:45:17 PM
Do people not read the transfer thread before posting ? :022:
Nope
He's just okay
Disagree read he is 6ft 3in we need physicality in that area.
Quote from: grandad on December 31, 2021, 08:18:46 PM
We are awash with midfielders. Don´t needanother one.
We need a left midfielder/forward. It's the one position I would be looking to strengthen, although I have to say, Kebano has looked good at times.
Quote from: AJW48361 on January 01, 2022, 02:25:24 AM
Disagree read he is 6ft 3in we need physicality in that area.
Agreed - we lose Seri shortly, Reed has had injury problems and we need this physicality. But I wonder if this means Chalobah is some distance from fit?
https://twitter.com/lhenry019/status/1477032213485170688
Quote from: JimOG on January 01, 2022, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: AJW48361 on January 01, 2022, 02:25:24 AM
Disagree read he is 6ft 3in we need physicality in that area.
Agreed - we lose Seri shortly, Reed has had injury problems and we need this physicality. But I wonder if this means Chalobah is some distance from fit?
Chalobah was on the bench against Sheffield United so is fit but with Seri off to African Nations another CM would not be a bad thing
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 31, 2021, 04:00:05 PM
As a team on the up, hopefully like the days of Tigana (maybe thats a bit too optimistic) we really should only be removing any deadwood and signing players who will bring extra quality to the team.
Totally agree with this. January is always a difficult window but I think we need to offload those that are not going to get near the squad and only get in players that could walk straight in to the team, or at least put pressure on others
Quote from: grandad on December 31, 2021, 08:18:46 PM
We are awash with midfielders. Don´t needanother one.
I thought that at the start of the season of the season but right now it is looking like a possible problem area.
Seri He is off to Africa for a month
Onomah Has yet to perform up to Championship standard.
Cairney Best hope but yet to hit his old form and to show he can last 90 minutes.
Reed Good in defence but leaves a little to be desired in attack.
Chalobah We have not see much of him as yet
A top midfield general in the mould of Alan Mullerry would do us the world of good.
Might have been Grimes- but given hes now signed a contract at swansea till 2025 seems unlikely
It must make you wonder of the fitness of chalabah and Reed and also seli away African nations all of jan and possible half of feb which could define our season,which reinforces my view that it is not the best squad in the division with still not enough cohesion in the club with youth development and 1st team.
Quote from: jayffc on January 01, 2022, 12:41:48 PM
Might have been Grimes- but given hes now signed a contract at swansea till 2025 seems unlikely
If Silva really thinks that Grimes is the player to lead us to promotion then TK should demonstrate that he has mastered his Director of Football role by going out and signing him. Contracts are made to be broken.
Keinan Davis gone to Forest on loan from Villa.
Brom get Daryl Dike - could be exactly what they've been missing...
https://twitter.com/thesunfootball/status/1477414396464934916
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 01, 2022, 09:01:12 PM
Brom get Daryl Dike - could be exactly what they've been missing...
It's certainly a signing that makes me nervous albeit, I really don't think its goals thats been their issue. They have very good strikers already.
So, some clubs were just waiting for the window to open and then they pounced, thus making sure they got there man.
Guess we will wait for window closing day to do any business in the hope we can pick something up from the bargain basement.
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
So, some clubs were just waiting for the window to open and then they pounced, thus making sure they got there man.
Guess we will wait for window closing day to do any business in the hope we can pick something up from the bargain basement.
...and the New year's race to find the FOF contestant for "Unlucky ALf" is off to a flyer with filham taking an early lead against ffcdave, who is strangely quiet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dwes9SQg9k
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
So, some clubs were just waiting for the window to open and then they pounced, thus making sure they got there man.
Guess we will wait for window closing day to do any business in the hope we can pick something up from the bargain basement.
West Brom's signing of Daryl Dike (to which I assume your post is referring) can hardly be held up as an example of a club that moves quickly in the transfer market. Ismael wanted him in the summer transfer window, but the Baggies weren't prepared to stump up the fee. Slipping to fourth in the table has, it seems, prompted them to loosen the purse strings. For Baggies' fans who have seen their team manage only 30 goals in 24 games, it must be more a case of what might have been had Dike been signed in August.
https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/12/01/steve-madeley-west-brom-unlikely-to-sign-daryl-dike-in-january/
Quote from: Arthur on January 02, 2022, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
So, some clubs were just waiting for the window to open and then they pounced, thus making sure they got there man.
Guess we will wait for window closing day to do any business in the hope we can pick something up from the bargain basement.
West Brom's signing of Daryl Dike (to which I assume your post is referring) can hardly be held up as an example of a club that moves quickly in the transfer market. Ismael wanted him in the summer transfer window, but the Baggies weren't prepared to stump up the fee. Slipping to fourth in the table has, it seems, prompted them to loosen the purse strings. For Baggies' fans who have seen their team manage only 30 goals in 24 games, it must be more a case of what might have been had Dike been signed in August.
https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/12/01/steve-madeley-west-brom-unlikely-to-sign-daryl-dike-in-january/
Having watched them a number of times this season, I don't feel they control games or create enough chances as opposed to dominating and missing chances so maybe I'm wrong but I'm not sure this striker will fix that.
I think he was very good for West Brom when they had him on loan in the prem. Started nearly every game and Allardyce liked him .. by that logic he would be good in the Champ
Quote from: born1879 on January 02, 2022, 04:17:26 PM
I think he was very good for West Brom when they had him on loan in the prem. Started nearly every game and Allardyce liked him .. by that logic he would be good in the Champ
The fact that he's played and done well by all accounts last year makes him, hopefully, a much needed addition. No acclimatising needed to a more 'intense' football as Muniz describes it.
Quote from: born1879 on January 02, 2022, 04:17:26 PM
I think he was very good for West Brom when they had him on loan in the prem. Started nearly every game and Allardyce liked him .. by that logic he would be good in the Champ
This being said.. we have Chalobah returning and they are similar players
WBA need a manager better players than the table is showing.
Quote from: born1879 on January 02, 2022, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: born1879 on January 02, 2022, 04:17:26 PM
I think he was very good for West Brom when they had him on loan in the prem. Started nearly every game and Allardyce liked him .. by that logic he would be good in the Champ
This being said.. we have Chalobah returning and they are similar players
Yep which is why I was asking & got a reminder that Chalobah was on the bench for the last match. But, if there's substance in this, it still makes sense. When we're run at we look pretty feeble at times. Reed is a natural DM but is injury prone, Seri is not a DM and is going to be absent for a crucial part of the campaign. Chalobah has hardly played. Maybe Silva feels he needs both Chalobah and Okay given the backlog of fixtures coming our way. Wouldn't mind two dogs in front of our back four and one of them to bark at Wilson on a regular basis
If we can get him on loan he'd be a top signing, definitely Premier League quality. We also need a left winger to compete with Kebano.
Chalobah plays more of an 8, whereas Yokuslu is an out and out number 6
John Swift at Reading, is this the type of player we should be looking at,
Out of contract in the summer and Reading can't afford to offer him a new one,
Scores goals and creates goals just the type of player we could do with,
Quote from: Riversider on January 03, 2022, 12:52:27 AM
John Swift at Reading, is this the type of player we should be looking at,
Out of contract in the summer and Reading can't afford to offer him a new one,
Scores goals and creates goals just the type of player we could do with,
I like him as well, he played well against us
Quote from: Riversider on January 03, 2022, 12:52:27 AM
John Swift at Reading, is this the type of player we should be looking at,
Out of contract in the summer and Reading can't afford to offer him a new one,
Scores goals and creates goals just the type of player we could do with,
Yes a decent player and he would be a good addition.
Swift is good, but he's injury prone and v one-footed.
With only 6 months left on his contract, I'd be more interested in Cantwell from Norwich, who's really been off the boil for a bit, but could be perfect if moved back into the middle.
Talking of Englishman ending their contracts soon, I'd also lump Ben Mee, Calum Chambers and Eddie Nketiah into the mix too.
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 03, 2022, 09:19:49 AM
Swift is good, but he's injury prone and v one-footed.
With only 6 months left on his contract, I'd be more interested in Cantwell from Norwich, who's really been off the boil for a bit, but could be perfect if moved back into the middle.
Talking of Englishman ending their contracts soon, I'd also lump Ben Mee, Calum Chambers and Eddie Nketiah into the mix too.
Some great names here. Wouldn't mind them all!
Ideal window for me personally
In
Todd Cantwell - loan (option to buy)
Okay Yokuslu - Loan (option to buy)
Out
Cyrus Christie
Anthony Knockeart
Domingos Quina - Loan Return
Personally think that would be smart a few additions to freshen it up but have faith in the squad that has us fighting for promotion
Quote from: Arthur on January 02, 2022, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
So, some clubs were just waiting for the window to open and then they pounced, thus making sure they got there man.
Guess we will wait for window closing day to do any business in the hope we can pick something up from the bargain basement.
West Brom's signing of Daryl Dike (to which I assume your post is referring) can hardly be held up as an example of a club that moves quickly in the transfer market. Ismael wanted him in the summer transfer window, but the Baggies weren't prepared to stump up the fee. Slipping to fourth in the table has, it seems, prompted them to loosen the purse strings. For Baggies' fans who have seen their team manage only 30 goals in 24 games, it must be more a case of what might have been had Dike been signed in August.
https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/12/01/steve-madeley-west-brom-unlikely-to-sign-daryl-dike-in-january/
Yes, that was the main move that caught my eye and I thought it was a similar situation to us with Grimes. However there have also been a couple of other moves that have already taken place.
With five league matches coming up between 11th and 28th January it would be useful to have any new players signed early.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 02, 2022, 07:50:52 PM
If we can get him on loan he'd be a top signing, definitely Premier League quality. We also need a left winger to compete with Kebano.
I have a lot of time for Kebano and think he is clearly the best player we have for that wide left position.
However it would be good to have a player who is clearly better than him but I see no point in signing someone on par with him.
Regarding Cantwell, from what I understand from people ITK at the club, I don't believe he can train most days due to a relatively bad chronic injury which is similar to what happened to Ledley King. I think the situation is a bit worse than he's just dropped form behind the scenes.
I would say he's satisfactory, but not especially good
Quote from: filham on January 03, 2022, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 02, 2022, 07:50:52 PM
If we can get him on loan he'd be a top signing, definitely Premier League quality. We also need a left winger to compete with Kebano.
I have a lot of time for Kebano and think he is clearly the best player we have for that wide left position.
However it would be good to have a player who is clearly better than him but I see no point in signing someone on par with him.
Ryan Kent is an outstanding wide left player, but we would have to break the bank if we go up.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 03, 2022, 11:06:02 AM
Regarding Cantwell, from what I understand from people ITK at the club, I don't believe he can train most days due to a relatively bad chronic injury which is similar to what happened to Ledley King. I think the situation is a bit worse than he's just dropped form behind the scenes.
When was this? He's never really suffered any serious injuries according to Transfermarkt (he's only missed 8 games in 3 years due to injury) and there's no mention of this on the Norwich forums - they only mention him being bang out of form and not a good tactical fit in their current system.
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 03, 2022, 12:32:23 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 03, 2022, 11:06:02 AM
Regarding Cantwell, from what I understand from people ITK at the club, I don't believe he can train most days due to a relatively bad chronic injury which is similar to what happened to Ledley King. I think the situation is a bit worse than he's just dropped form behind the scenes.
When was this? He's never really suffered any serious injuries according to Transfermarkt (he's only missed 8 games in 3 years due to injury) and there's no mention of this on the Norwich forums - they only mention him being bang out of form and not a good tactical fit in their current system.
I'll chase up with my mate who told me but he said its just an injury he's always suffered with since turning pro that overtime, never fully recovered hence not being able to train most days. Don't get me wrong, that could be untrue and heresay to explain why he rarely see's himself in the team consistently, but thought I'd throw in what I heard about him. Presumably, any medicals if a transfer was imminent would highlight this though.
Lots of Championship clubs apparently looking at Matt O'Riley including Scott Parker(one that got away)Always looked to have something about him.
Quote from: AJW48361 on January 03, 2022, 08:37:31 PM
Lots of Championship clubs apparently looking at Matt O'Riley including Scott Parker(one that got away)Always looked to have something about him.
When Scott Parker brought O'Riley on against Reading then later brought him off was the last we saw of him.
Awaiting early action from TK on two fronts, which will he achieve first:-
1. Signing top player to add spark into our attack.
2. Diving into the new pool which was scheduled to be ready for use by Christmas.
Really like the idea of Yokuslu if he was to come, looks like a bit of a beast who breaks up play & wins the ball. Harrison Reed did that but not recaptured his form & playing in a more advanced role
Are we capable of making one signing during this window who will command a place in the team and make a difference to team performance. Perhaps it is better to proceed as we are and not rock the boat.
In the summer window we signed Muniz, Quina, Chalobah and Wilson. Only Wilson has played regularly the other three have hardly been seen.
Quote from: filham on January 04, 2022, 10:22:07 AM
Awaiting early action from TK on two fronts, which will he achieve first:-
1. Signing top player to add spark into our attack.
2. Diving into the new pool which was scheduled to be ready for use by Christmas.
My money would be on 2 happening first!
Quote from: JimOG on January 02, 2022, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: born1879 on January 02, 2022, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: born1879 on January 02, 2022, 04:17:26 PM
I think he was very good for West Brom when they had him on loan in the prem. Started nearly every game and Allardyce liked him .. by that logic he would be good in the Champ
This being said.. we have Chalobah returning and they are similar players
Yep which is why I was asking & got a reminder that Chalobah was on the bench for the last match. But, if there's substance in this, it still makes sense. When we're run at we look pretty feeble at times. Reed is a natural DM but is injury prone, Seri is not a DM and is going to be absent for a crucial part of the campaign. Chalobah has hardly played. Maybe Silva feels he needs both Chalobah and Okay given the backlog of fixtures coming our way. Wouldn't mind two dogs in front of our back four and one of them to bark at Wilson on a regular basis
Agree Jim, especially the last bit.
Quote from: davew on January 04, 2022, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: filham on January 04, 2022, 10:22:07 AM
Awaiting early action from TK on two fronts, which will he achieve first:-
1. Signing top player to add spark into our attack.
2. Diving into the new pool which was scheduled to be ready for use by Christmas.
My money would be on 2 happening first!
I would not advise it if there is no water in it.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 04, 2022, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: davew on January 04, 2022, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: filham on January 04, 2022, 10:22:07 AM
Awaiting early action from TK on two fronts, which will he achieve first:-
1. Signing top player to add spark into our attack.
2. Diving into the new pool which was scheduled to be ready for use by Christmas.
My money would be on 2 happening first!
I would not advise it if there is no water in it.
Oh , he is waiting for the rain to add about six inches depth of water so that we have a real spectacle that will take our attention away from the transfer market.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 04, 2022, 10:27:18 AM
Really like the idea of Yokuslu if he was to come, looks like a bit of a beast who breaks up play & wins the ball. Harrison Reed did that but not recaptured his form & playing in a more advanced role
I agree Hillingdon.
That's just what he did for WBA last season and also showed glimpses of being creative with passes.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 04, 2022, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: davew on January 04, 2022, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: filham on January 04, 2022, 10:22:07 AM
Awaiting early action from TK on two fronts, which will he achieve first:-
1. Signing top player to add spark into our attack.
2. Diving into the new pool which was scheduled to be ready for use by Christmas.
My money would be on 2 happening first!
I would not advise it if there is no water in it.
On the other hand?
Quote from: filham on January 03, 2022, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 02, 2022, 07:50:52 PM
If we can get him on loan he'd be a top signing, definitely Premier League quality. We also need a left winger to compete with Kebano.
I have a lot of time for Kebano and think he is clearly the best player we have for that wide left position.
However it would be good to have a player who is clearly better than him but I see no point in signing someone on par with him.
Young Keane Lewis-Potter from Hull or even possibly Bright Osai-Samuels (ex QPR), both can be effective on either flank, so could be contenders for a starting spot.
Might spark Wilson into a bit more life.
I would go for Dembele at Posh considering he is out of contract in the summer
Callum Chambers will be a free transfer this summer. I would bring him in for sure. He Probably won't start every game, but he will add much needed depth and versatility. He's better than most of the squad players we have.
Again, wouldn't be someone to come in and play every week, but he's too good not to pick up on a free transfer providing wages aren't crazy
Quote from: JackHamlet90 on January 03, 2022, 10:05:14 AM
Ideal window for me personally
In
Todd Cantwell - loan (option to buy)
Okay Yokuslu - Loan (option to buy)
Out
Cyrus Christie
Anthony Knockeart
Domingos Quina - Loan Return
Can't do that because Wilson is technically a loan at the moment.
Quote from: AnotherOldgit on January 04, 2022, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: JackHamlet90 on January 03, 2022, 10:05:14 AM
Ideal window for me personally
In
Todd Cantwell - loan (option to buy)
Okay Yokuslu - Loan (option to buy)
Out
Cyrus Christie
Anthony Knockeart
Domingos Quina - Loan Return
Can't do that because Wilson is technically a loan at the moment.
You can have go to 5 loans in the match day squad in the EFL
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 05, 2022, 12:17:02 AM
Quote from: AnotherOldgit on January 04, 2022, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: JackHamlet90 on January 03, 2022, 10:05:14 AM
Ideal window for me personally
In
Todd Cantwell - loan (option to buy)
Okay Yokuslu - Loan (option to buy)
Out
Cyrus Christie
Anthony Knockeart
Domingos Quina - Loan Return
Can't do that because Wilson is technically a loan at the moment.
You can have go to 5 loans in the match day squad in the EFL
We cannot afford a loan with an option to buy, they are a very expensive form of loan. I imagine we could get a loan that promises a huge promotion bonus or a compulsory buy upon promotion. It might seem like a small difference, but only clubs a few clubs are really interested in a promotion bonus loan, and if we draw the next few games not many clubs would be interested. Alternatively, if we win the next few games by wide margins, some teams normally not interested in loan fees based on promotion may change their minds as we could be a good bet.
I can't see Norwich offering us a 6 month loan for Cantwell, given that his contract expires at the end of that time. Even with an option, why would we trigger it when we could get him for free at the same time?
For Cantwell, it'll either be a small fee for a permanent signing now, or he'll be a free agent in the summer
It seems like Napoli are no longer intent on signing Anguissa permanently at this stage. This means we are obviously restricted to loan signings, unless we sell a few fringe players (Knockart, Cavaleiro, Christie) for reasonable fees - which is unlikely obviously!
Without a doubt we do need a least one incoming midfielder, with Seri off for the month, Reed and Cairney not exactly in exhilarating form and Chalobah an unknown quantity in some respects. I haven't seen anything from Onomah this season to suggest he can be relied upon and Quina looks to be on his way back to Watford, which is for the best I would say. So, the Okay feller looks like a good bet - but hopefully we do have a back-up option if he goes elsewhere (and either way need to get the deal over the line soon...)
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 05, 2022, 02:06:58 PM
It seems like Napoli are no longer intent on signing Anguissa permanently at this stage. This means we are obviously restricted to loan signings, unless we sell a few fringe players (Knockart, Cavaleiro, Christie) for reasonable fees - which is unlikely obviously!
Without a doubt we do need a least one incoming midfielder, with Seri off for the month, Reed and Cairney not exactly in exhilarating form and Chalobah and unknown quantity in some respects. I haven't seen anything from Onomah this season to suggest he can be relied upon and Quina looks to be on his way back to Watford, which is for the best I would say. So, the Okay feller looks like a good bet - but hopefully we do have a back-up option if he goes elsewhere (and either way need to get the deal over the line soon...)
I agree.
I think the midfielder needs to be a strong, physical type (like Yokuslu). We are being outmuscled recently.
I believe another player who can play out wide or up top would be handy too, but we might have our hands tied with FFP.
Bournemouth have made some early moves to bring two young highly rated defenders to their club,
There are a large amount of points on offer in January, I hope and pray were not faffing about on the final hour of the final day to get our business done.
Quote from: Riversider on January 05, 2022, 03:13:30 PM
Bournemouth have made some early moves to bring two young highly rated defenders to their club,
There are a large amount of points on offer in January, I hope and pray were not faffing about on the final hour of the final day to get our business done.
I imagine he demanded this from Bournemuff after the way we started our PL campaign with our championship defence.
Quote from: dfwilson84 on January 04, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
I would go for Dembele at Posh considering he is out of contract in the summer
We were reported to be looking at Dembele in the summer, he is a number 9 I believe, but decided on Muniz. The question now is Dembele any better than Muniz or Stansfield.
We really don't need any more squad players but just one or two who are clearly better than those already with us.
Quote from: filham on January 05, 2022, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: dfwilson84 on January 04, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
I would go for Dembele at Posh considering he is out of contract in the summer
We were reported to be looking at Dembele in the summer, he is a number 9 I believe, but decided on Muniz. The question now is Dembele any better than Muniz or Stansfield.
We really don't need any more squad players but just one or two who are clearly better than those already with us.
Dembele is a winger
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 05, 2022, 02:06:58 PM
It seems like Napoli are no longer intent on signing Anguissa permanently at this stage. This means we are obviously restricted to loan signings, unless we sell a few fringe players (Knockart, Cavaleiro, Christie) for reasonable fees - which is unlikely obviously!
Without a doubt we do need a least one incoming midfielder, with Seri off for the month, Reed and Cairney not exactly in exhilarating form and Chalobah an unknown quantity in some respects. I haven't seen anything from Onomah this season to suggest he can be relied upon and Quina looks to be on his way back to Watford, which is for the best I would say. So, the Okay feller looks like a good bet - but hopefully we do have a back-up option if he goes elsewhere (and either way need to get the deal over the line soon...)
The Ivory Coast's first game is on the 12th of January and the competition's final is on the 6th of February, with only one game after the close of the transfer window and it's against Middlesbrough. Fulham can keep Quina until the end of the transfer window, and Seri away will give Fulham a good chance to trial our other midfielders.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 06, 2022, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 05, 2022, 02:06:58 PM
It seems like Napoli are no longer intent on signing Anguissa permanently at this stage. This means we are obviously restricted to loan signings, unless we sell a few fringe players (Knockart, Cavaleiro, Christie) for reasonable fees - which is unlikely obviously!
Without a doubt we do need a least one incoming midfielder, with Seri off for the month, Reed and Cairney not exactly in exhilarating form and Chalobah an unknown quantity in some respects. I haven't seen anything from Onomah this season to suggest he can be relied upon and Quina looks to be on his way back to Watford, which is for the best I would say. So, the Okay feller looks like a good bet - but hopefully we do have a back-up option if he goes elsewhere (and either way need to get the deal over the line soon...)
The Ivory Coast's first game is on the 12th of January and the competition's final is on the 6th of February, with only one game after the close of the transfer window and it's against Middlesbrough. Fulham can keep Quina until the end of the transfer window, and Seri away will give Fulham a good chance to trial our other midfielders.
Isnt Quinta here on a season long loan? Which would mean the only way we can send him back is if there is a break clause, we ask Watford if the will terminate the loan and they agree or Watford ask us to terminate the loan and we agree. Is wither of the last 2 likely as in would Watford agree or ask us too? Only if they have another loan option line up i guess as I cannot see them using him.
Are there any actual concrete links so far?
A few Championship clubs, eg Forest, apparently expressing an interest in Millwall's Jed Wallace who is out of contract at the end of the season so Millwall might have a few of looking for some fee rather than no fee if his contract runs down.
He is 28 so no spring chicken but a proven goal scoring and creative wide man who could create competition for Kebano and Wilson?
Jarrod Bowen has done welll since his move to West Ham, Wallace is potentially just as good so worth a punt? Maybe offer one of our frying squad players as part of the deal, eg Knockaert!
Quote from: copthornemike on January 06, 2022, 10:50:35 AM
A few Championship clubs, eg Forest, apparently expressing an interest in Millwall's Jed Wallace who is out of contract at the end of the season so Millwall might have a few of looking for some fee rather than no fee if his contract runs down.
He is 28 so no spring chicken but a proven goal scoring and creative wide man who could create competition for Kebano and Wilson?
Jarrod Bowen has done welll since his move to West Ham, Wallace is potentially just as good so worth a punt? Maybe offer one of our frying squad players as part of the deal, eg Knockaert!
Think the word is he is signing a pre contract agreement with Besiktas, sure i read that somewhere yesterday.
Quote from: dfwilson84 on January 04, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
I would go for Dembele at Posh considering he is out of contract in the summer
Did not look like an upgrade to me.
Pending the price, I'd love us to look at Isaiah Jones. Think he looks the real deal at the moment and has the pace we'd need if we went up. Sometimes lack in the decision making but with some decent coaching, I'd love him in and around the squad.
Dembele fits the mould perfectly for me - young potentially cheap attacker who could provide some spark now, but also contribute in the premier league season should we get promoted.
Quote from: Pluto on January 06, 2022, 03:15:19 PM
Dembele fits the mould perfectly for me - young potentially cheap attacker who could provide some spark now, but also contribute in the premier league season should we get promoted.
Mmm...very good scoring record 1:5 matches but heading for 26 years old. Chairman wants £7-8 million (yep want & gets are two different things) but Dembele will want a 3/4 year contract. I've only seen him fleetingly and he is tricky but we're going to need better if we are to go up & stay up?
Quote from: JimOG on January 06, 2022, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: Pluto on January 06, 2022, 03:15:19 PM
Dembele fits the mould perfectly for me - young potentially cheap attacker who could provide some spark now, but also contribute in the premier league season should we get promoted.
Mmm...very good scoring record 1:5 matches but heading for 26 years old. Chairman wants £7-8 million (yep want & gets are two different things) but Dembele will want a 3/4 year contract. I've only seen him fleetingly and he is tricky but we're going to need better if we are to go up & stay up?
As a Peterborough local I think they came out and said they'd take about £3-4m in the local press - they're fairly resigned to going down at this point and know they'll lose him on a free if not
Quote from: junior white on January 06, 2022, 07:36:55 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 06, 2022, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 05, 2022, 02:06:58 PM
It seems like Napoli are no longer intent on signing Anguissa permanently at this stage. This means we are obviously restricted to loan signings, unless we sell a few fringe players (Knockart, Cavaleiro, Christie) for reasonable fees - which is unlikely obviously!
Without a doubt we do need a least one incoming midfielder, with Seri off for the month, Reed and Cairney not exactly in exhilarating form and Chalobah an unknown quantity in some respects. I haven't seen anything from Onomah this season to suggest he can be relied upon and Quina looks to be on his way back to Watford, which is for the best I would say. So, the Okay feller looks like a good bet - but hopefully we do have a back-up option if he goes elsewhere (and either way need to get the deal over the line soon...)
The Ivory Coast's first game is on the 12th of January and the competition's final is on the 6th of February, with only one game after the close of the transfer window and it's against Middlesbrough. Fulham can keep Quina until the end of the transfer window, and Seri away will give Fulham a good chance to trial our other midfielders.
Isnt Quinta here on a season long loan? Which would mean the only way we can send him back is if there is a break clause, we ask Watford if the will terminate the loan and they agree or Watford ask us to terminate the loan and we agree. Is wither of the last 2 likely as in would Watford agree or ask us too? Only if they have another loan option line up i guess as I cannot see them using him.
Rumour is Watford want to cancel the loan and send him somewhere else on loan where he will get more playing time.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 06, 2022, 04:03:16 PM
Quote from: junior white on January 06, 2022, 07:36:55 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 06, 2022, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 05, 2022, 02:06:58 PM
It seems like Napoli are no longer intent on signing Anguissa permanently at this stage. This means we are obviously restricted to loan signings, unless we sell a few fringe players (Knockart, Cavaleiro, Christie) for reasonable fees - which is unlikely obviously!
Without a doubt we do need a least one incoming midfielder, with Seri off for the month, Reed and Cairney not exactly in exhilarating form and Chalobah an unknown quantity in some respects. I haven't seen anything from Onomah this season to suggest he can be relied upon and Quina looks to be on his way back to Watford, which is for the best I would say. So, the Okay feller looks like a good bet - but hopefully we do have a back-up option if he goes elsewhere (and either way need to get the deal over the line soon...)
The Ivory Coast's first game is on the 12th of January and the competition's final is on the 6th of February, with only one game after the close of the transfer window and it's against Middlesbrough. Fulham can keep Quina until the end of the transfer window, and Seri away will give Fulham a good chance to trial our other midfielders.
Isnt Quinta here on a season long loan? Which would mean the only way we can send him back is if there is a break clause, we ask Watford if the will terminate the loan and they agree or Watford ask us to terminate the loan and we agree. Is wither of the last 2 likely as in would Watford agree or ask us too? Only if they have another loan option line up i guess as I cannot see them using him.
Rumour is Watford want to cancel the loan and send him somewhere else on loan where he will get more playing time.
That would work for us then, if it was just a cost thing from their side and not a playing thing then they will just leave him with us
Silva has quite clearly stated that Quina has not been working hard enough in training and must show more effort to stand a chance of selection.
He quite obviously does not fancy him.
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
I think the Turkish midfielder if he has good has the people say is a priority.
Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
I thing they'd all be good signings though I'm not sure how old Mee is, maybe too old? I don't think we will be able to afford Brereton though.
Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
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Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 06, 2022, 06:33:24 PM
Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
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Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Dembele was a winger now playing as more of a 10 role, but may be a bit lightweight.
Issia Jones has looked really good for Boro since Chris Wilder took over.
Really hope we get the turk.
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Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
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Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
We have Tete and Tosin on the right side of defence. We're quite strong on that side so no need for Chambers. We are weak at LCB, CDM and LW. These are the positions to target this window. Anything else is a bonus.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 06, 2022, 06:33:24 PM
Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
We have Tete and Tosin on the right side of defence. We're quite strong on that side so no need for Chambers. We are weak at LCB, CDM and LW. These are the positions to target this window. Anything else is a bonus.
When Chambers won player of the season with us he played as a defensive midfielder, if we bought him that's where I would play him, he can also play in defence as you say, so he would add versatility to our lines. He's better than the squad players we currently have, he would give Reed competition
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 06, 2022, 06:33:24 PM
Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
We have Tete and Tosin on the right side of defence. We're quite strong on that side so no need for Chambers. We are weak at LCB, CDM and LW. These are the positions to target this window. Anything else is a bonus.
When Chambers won player of the season with us he played as a defensive midfielder, if we bought him that's where I would play him, he can also play in defence as you say, so he would add versatility to our lines. He's better than the squad players we currently have, he would give Reed competition
To be fair though he won player of the season because he was the only one who put in a decent amount of effort for the whole season rather than being technically proficient. My lasting memories of him were doing well to win the ball back, and then slamming it straight out for a throw-in because his passing range beyond 5 yards was abysmal, and in the possession based system we now employ he'd be a hindrance
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Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
We have Tete and Tosin on the right side of defence. We're quite strong on that side so no need for Chambers. We are weak at LCB, CDM and LW. These are the positions to target this window. Anything else is a bonus.
When Chambers won player of the season with us he played as a defensive midfielder, if we bought him that's where I would play him, he can also play in defence as you say, so he would add versatility to our lines. He's better than the squad players we currently have, he would give Reed competition
To be fair though he won player of the season because he was the only one who put in a decent amount of effort for the whole season rather than being technically proficient. My lasting memories of him were doing well to win the ball back, and then slamming it straight out for a throw-in because his passing range beyond 5 yards was abysmal, and in the possession based system we now employ he'd be a hindrance
Well I disagree, with Silva as manager I think he would do well. Lots of energy and good at breaking up play, he can be an asset and he wouldn't be expensive
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The statistics are not very encouraging, surely we can do better?
Sounds as if he would soon find his place in the pecking order behind Stansfield and Muniz. We don't need to add depth but instead to add one outstanding striker who can displace Kebano in that wide left position, Kebano is doing a reasonable job so to get someone better is not going to be easy and is going to cost us big money, but that is where our effort should be directed.
reasonable ? he's been one of our best players and arguably better then Fabio who everyone can't stop raving about, its like he can do no wrong and was non existent against Sheffield, must be all the Barcelona paper talk hype
Stanfield in my view deserves a proper run of games and could be a bigger prospect
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Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
We have Tete and Tosin on the right side of defence. We're quite strong on that side so no need for Chambers. We are weak at LCB, CDM and LW. These are the positions to target this window. Anything else is a bonus.
Read an article a couple of days ago that Villa are looking for an upgrade on Matt Targett, I would have him back in a heartbeat, especially if we can get decent money for Robinson.
Dont know why we are talking about defenders, with only 3 goals in the last five games we need a real bright spark in attack but that player would be replacing one of Kebano, Wilson, Carvalho, Cairney or BDR. They would have to be pretty good and would probably cost more than we can pay. Beginning to think that as long as Carvalho doesn't leave we should continue as we are and that all we need is for Silva to tweak his tactics.
Doubt it's more than a toon rumour as they are being linked to all and sundry, but supposedly they are interested in Solanke.
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Doubt it's more than a toon rumour as they are being linked to all and sundry, but supposedly they are interested in Solanke.
Wasnt it Howe that signed Solanki for Bournemouth f so maybe something in it
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Doubt it's more than a toon rumour as they are being linked to all and sundry, but supposedly they are interested in Solanke.
Wasnt it Howe that signed Solanki for Bournemouth f so maybe something in it
That'd hurt them big time, I'd be really shocked if they let him go at this stage.
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Doubt it's more than a toon rumour as they are being linked to all and sundry, but supposedly they are interested in Solanke.
Wasnt it Howe that signed Solanki for Bournemouth f so maybe something in it
Or that's the link that the lazy journalist used to make it up. You can never really tell.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 06, 2022, 06:33:24 PM
Quote from: LC on January 06, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
The following players contracts are up this summer (I think) :
Ben Mee
Callum Chambers
John Swift
Todd Cantwell
Eddie Nketiah
Ben Brereton (1 year extension clause)
I think they would all make pretty good additions. Not saying they're the way forward but I would certainly be looking at some of those names. I also like Rob Holding from Arsenal who I think would be a good singing for us.
Blackburn want £20m for Brereton btw, no chance of it happening
Isn't his contract up in less than a year though? Can't see how they will get that for him to be honest.
Blackburn are currently second in the table and he has scored roughly half their goals so I assume they'd prefer to keep him and have a shot at promotion.
Whilst I get that, that doesn't detract from clubs finances and short length or his contract (and hes not even on a big deal one) limiting his transfer value. We'll see I guess but I'd be surprised if they found a suitor for 20m.
Just saw Todd Cantwell has a year extension built into his contract as well so like Brereton he won't be cheap.
I don't see Brereton as a January signing, he would be one we could make if we go up and Blackburn don't.
In terms of a player we could get now, I would go for Callum Chambers. He knows the club and would fit straight in, he's versatile, still a decent age- so we would get some resale value on him, and he's an upgrade on a lot of our squad players. With 6 months left on his contract I don't think he would cost a lot to bring in either.
We have Tete and Tosin on the right side of defence. We're quite strong on that side so no need for Chambers. We are weak at LCB, CDM and LW. These are the positions to target this window. Anything else is a bonus.
Read an article a couple of days ago that Villa are looking for an upgrade on Matt Targett, I would have him back in a heartbeat, especially if we can get decent money for Robinson.
Me too, he's a better version of Joe Bryan, quality player.
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
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Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
Thank you, I can't take the credit for this one, but he is one of 4 that we want gone this window. We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it.
Wsw Thanks again for the info ,what position does the new player play in
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Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
It's on line in Football World.
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Doubt it's more than a toon rumour as they are being linked to all and sundry, but supposedly they are interested in Solanke.
Wasnt it Howe that signed Solanki for Bournemouth f so maybe something in it
Or that's the link that the lazy journalist used to make it up. You can never really tell.
It could be lazy as a lot of rumours are, I did check and Howe did sign Solanki for Bournemouth
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Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
Thank you, I can't take the credit for this one, but he is one of 4 that we want gone this window. We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it.
It's Yokuslu
WSW
"We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it."
Interesting re Mawson.
Do you happen to know, please, whether the need to move Mawson or someone else on before we sign a new player is because of FFP or spending limits determined by the owner as part of his strategy for us to be as self-financing as possible?
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Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
Thank you, I can't take the credit for this one, but he is one of 4 that we want gone this window. We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it.
Why would a selling club agree to a situation like that ?
What if we can't sell a player ?
More to the point why would the player agree to that situation?
Makes no sense.
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
Thank you, I can't take the credit for this one, but he is one of 4 that we want gone this window. We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it.
Why would a selling club agree to a situation like that ?
What if we can't sell a player ?
More to the point why would the player agree to that situation?
Makes no sense.
Well there's no other clubs in for him, obviously until he's signed for us other clubs can still sign for other clubs if they hijack the bid . The club have made it clear to the player they really want him to join, but just have to move some players on first. The player wants the move to Fulham too.
Quote from: Oakeshott on January 07, 2022, 04:27:42 PM
WSW
"We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it."
Interesting re Mawson.
Do you happen to know, please, whether the need to move Mawson or someone else on before we sign a new player is because of FFP or spending limits determined by the owner as part of his strategy for us to be as self-financing as possible?
It's more FFP so we can bring players in this window.
Quote from: ianthailand on January 07, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
I will 2nd that
Quote from: ianthailand on January 07, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
This rumour is from an article in Football League World today.
Quote from: Twig on January 07, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 07, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
This rumour is from an article in Football League World today.
They stole it from a proper journo at PA Media, who has an unfortunate name of Nick Mashiter
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on January 07, 2022, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 07, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
I will 2nd that
Thirded - if there's such a thing
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 07, 2022, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 07, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 07, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
This rumour is from an article in Football League World today.
They stole it from a proper journo at PA Media, who has an unfortunate name of Nick Mashiter
Lol
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Quote from: Twig on January 07, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 07, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
This rumour is from an article in Football League World today.
They stole it from a proper journo at PA Media, who has an unfortunate name of Nick Mashiter
Are we getting a fee for him?
Looks like we're willing to let him go for free, but happy to keep him if he can't agree a deal.
He's a strange, Mawson. At the start of every season he looks as though he could be The One, yet he always ends up fading into obscurity.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 07, 2022, 05:45:40 PM
Looks like we're willing to let him go for free, but happy to keep him if he can't agree a deal.
He's a strange, Mawson. At the start of every season he looks as though he could be The One, yet he always ends up fading into obscurity.
Maybe he's on high wages? How long does he have left on his contract?
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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 07, 2022, 05:45:40 PM
Looks like we're willing to let him go for free, but happy to keep him if he can't agree a deal.
He's a strange, Mawson. At the start of every season he looks as though he could be The One, yet he always ends up fading into obscurity.
Maybe he's on high wages? How long does he have left on his contract?
He's reportedly on 40k a week, and is out of contract at the end of the season
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
An earlier post said that we had given a firm no to ha has when they expressed interest in Mawson, why then would we allow him to move to Birmingham.
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
Hope you get more respect this window WSW. I for one am grateful for all your efforts.
Thank you, I can't take the credit for this one, but he is one of 4 that we want gone this window. We have agreed a deal for 1 player, it's done and all agreed. However, we need to shift Atleast 1 player before we can complete it.
Why would a selling club agree to a situation like that ?
What if we can't sell a player ?
More to the point why would the player agree to that situation?
Makes no sense.
Well there's no other clubs in for him, obviously until he's signed for us other clubs can still sign for other clubs if they hijack the bid . The club have made it clear to the player they really want him to join, but just have to move some players on first. The player wants the move to Fulham too.
I was thinking maybe loan, but we have to cancel a loan/make one permanent before agreeing another (not sure about the loan rule)
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Mawson looking like he is off the Birmingham, they have offered him a 3.5 year deal! He'd be silly not to take that tbh out
An earlier post said that we had given a firm no to ha has when they expressed interest in Mawson, why then would we allow him to move to Birmingham.
Fulham won't send him to QPR as the club class then as a promotion rival, also QPR didn't want to pay much of his of Hector's huge wages
Gareth Bale available for a 6 month loan, wants game time for the World Cup. Read something on sky sports that he might play in the Championship. It would make sense for him to play for Swansea or Cardiff.
Terry Ablade has signed a pro deal and has gone on loan to AFC Wimbledon until the end of the season. On the offal. Excellent move for him Imo
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 07, 2022, 06:50:10 PM
Terry Ablade has signed a pro deal and has gone on loan to AFC Wimbledon until the end of the season. On the offal. Excellent move for him Imo
Yeah I agree that's a great move
Michael Hector and Alfie Mawson
The Fulham duo are said to be on interest to the R's. But West London Sport's David McIntyre writes that QPR's west London neighbours Fulham have 'indicated that they would not be open to a deal at this stage.'
Since, a report from Hammy End has revealed that Fulham boss Marco Silva wants to keep his defensive options stockpiled throughout the upcoming fixture pile up, and so he won't sanction a temporary or permanent departure for either Hector or Mawson at this stage.
Well someone must be correct, but not sure who?
With Alfie not involved today ,you would think he is on his way out
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 08, 2022, 06:38:43 PM
With Alfie not involved today ,you would think he is on his way out
Or he could be one of the two players Marco said were not available due to Covid.
We need to get people out before anyone comes in, Mawson is out
We should not sell Mawson to Birmingham until after we have played them . This is Fulham and it's obvious why.
Fulham face failure in Fulgini pursuit
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Fulham's ambitious attempt to acquire Angelo Fulgini from Angers appears doomed to failure after Marseille entered the race to sign the attacking midfielder, according to the Sun.
Fulham have been heavily linked with the 25 year-old, who looks set to move on during this transfer window, and were hoping to use their position in the Championship promotion positions to persuade Fulgini to move to London. But Marseille's interest in the playmaker makes them an attractive domestic option for Fulgini, who has scored three goals in eighteen Ligue 1 games this season,
The Sun says that the former French under-21 international is keen on a move to the Premier League and Burnley are believed to be preparing an offer. Angers are looking for as much as £18m for their star midfielder – which is another reason why the Whites are likely to be priced out of the race.
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2022/01/fulham-face-failure-in-fulgini-pursuit/
According to Alan Nixon of The Sun, Bournemouth are looking at Keifer Moore
Quote from: junior white on January 09, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
According to Alan Nixon of The Sun, Bournemouth are looking at Keifer Moore
I think he's a good short term option, much more to his game than just an aerial threat. Guessing Bournmouth are cashing in on one of their strikers?
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Quote from: junior white on January 09, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
According to Alan Nixon of The Sun, Bournemouth are looking at Keifer Moore
I think he's a good short term option, much more to his game than just an aerial threat. Guessing Bournmouth are cashing in on one of their strikers?
My thoughts too
Didn't somebody mention that Newcastle were sniffing around Solanke?
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 09, 2022, 12:37:40 PM
Didn't somebody mention that Newcastle were sniffing around Solanke?
Yeh, although that seems to whiff of lazy journo chat really. Howe previously signed him and it didn't quite work out so that must mean he'd sign him again. Hopefully its true though!
Now that you say that, I think I was one of those that said it was probably lazy journalism. :dft001: 064.gif
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 09, 2022, 12:47:33 PM
Now that you say that, I think I was one of those that said it was probably lazy journalism. :dft001: 064.gif
Here's to hoping its not!!!
From the Athletic - summary from the latest Peter Rutzler article
https://theathletic.com/3058141/2022/01/09/fulham-set-rely-current-squad-promotion-push-expect-outgoings/?source=emp-shared-article
It is understood that Cyrus Christie, who has publicly voiced his desire to leave for more game-time — will be able to leave for free. Fulham are also open to offers for Anthony Knockaert and Terence Kongolo, both of whom have dropped off the radar this season. A year on from his initial £4 million signing, Kongolo has just not been able to consistently fight for nor hold a place in the Fulham first team.
There have also been links regarding Michael Hector and Alfie Mawson, but both are well-liked and would not be lost willingly during this window. Mawson, although absent from the squad on Saturday, did not miss out for transfer-related reasons.
Domingos Quina played tidily at Ashton Gate without really affecting the game. His lack of minutes on loan at Fulham means he is likely to see his move cut short this month and his start on Saturday seems unlikely to change that.
According to a report we're after Blackpool winger Josh Bowler.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
According to a report we're after Blackpool winger Josh Bowler.
Wasn't he with Fulham before when he was with the academy or is that another Josh Bowler.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2022, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
According to a report we're after Blackpool winger Josh Bowler.
Wasn't he with Fulham before when he was with the academy or is that another Josh Bowler.
That's correct, scored the winner against us earlier this season.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
According to a report we're after Blackpool winger Josh Bowler.
Wasn't he with Fulham before when he was with the academy or is that another Josh Bowler.
That's correct, scored the winner against us earlier this season.
Which was also the only league goal he's scored this season in 26 appearances :023:.
Napoli interested in Tosin
https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/13/napoli-keep-tabs-on-championship-defender/543899/
Quote from: spikey norman on January 13, 2022, 01:31:41 PM
Napoli interested in Tosin
https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/13/napoli-keep-tabs-on-championship-defender/543899/
Seems like Napoli are trying to turn into the Tottenham of Italy, poaching our players. No way Napoli.
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Quote from: spikey norman on January 13, 2022, 01:31:41 PM
Napoli interested in Tosin
https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/13/napoli-keep-tabs-on-championship-defender/543899/
Seems like Napoli are trying to turn into the Tottenham of Italy, poaching our players. No way Napoli.
Doubt they could afford him
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Quote from: spikey norman on January 13, 2022, 01:31:41 PM
Napoli interested in Tosin
https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/13/napoli-keep-tabs-on-championship-defender/543899/
Seems like Napoli are trying to turn into the Tottenham of Italy, poaching our players. No way Napoli.
Doubt they could afford him
They can't even afford Anguissa until they're guaranteed Champions League football!
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
Come home Cauley.
KM impressed for Cardiff against us earlier in the Season looks a good outlet.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
I'd be pleased for him if this happens. Would love to see him climb the ranks - I still think we made a mistake in selling him.
Cauley was a popular player with us who never quite made it although he did score some good goals.
He had enough chances to establish himself and then it was time to move on. Good luck to him.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on January 13, 2022, 04:11:26 PM
Cauley was a popular player with us who never quite made it although he did score some good goals.
He had enough chances to establish himself and then it was time to move on. Good luck to him.
this
I don't prescribe to the idea that he didn't get a fair chance
He got given the same oppurtunity as someone like fabio carvalho has had...its just fabio, early on, made a bigger impression with the opportunities he had. Woodrow came up with Dembele in the academy and Moussa took his oppurtunity at 1st team level before moving in to bigger things
Just one of those things, like the lad and wish him well but don't think he's anything better than what we have personally so wasn't the right fit for us.
How he goes all the way and proves me wrong though!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
Maybe they've already seen they've made a mistake and MLS made Eddie johnson and Bradley Wright Phillips look like world beaters
Went and saw a few games a few years back...dreadful to watch...reckon few league 2 teams would give most of them a stuffing
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
Maybe they've already seen they've made a mistake and MLS made Eddie johnson and Bradley Wright Phillips look like world beaters
Went and saw a few games a few years back...dreadful to watch...reckon few league 2 teams would give most of them a stuffing
Dike had nine goals in 19 appearances in the Championship last season ... with Cauley's club.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
According to a report we're after Blackpool winger Josh Bowler.
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Wasn't he with Fulham before when he was with the academy or is that another Josh Bowler.
That's correct, scored the winner against us earlier this season.
Which was also the only league goal he's scored this season in 26 appearances :023:.
IMHO we would do better going for Osayi-Samuels a previous target.
Whatch his u tube highlights when with QPR
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
Doubt that will happen now,as he is going to be
out for a while with knee injury.
Quote from: spikey norman on January 13, 2022, 01:31:41 PM
Napoli interested in Tosin
https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/13/napoli-keep-tabs-on-championship-defender/543899/
The article says the price may drop because he will only have 12 months left in the summer, but we actually have an option for an extra 12 months. So the report isn't trustworthy.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
Maybe they've already seen they've made a mistake and MLS made Eddie johnson and Bradley Wright Phillips look like world beaters
Went and saw a few games a few years back...dreadful to watch...reckon few league 2 teams would give most of them a stuffing
Some very very good players in MLS these days, and Dike isnt even in the top 15-20. Saying that he's a decent player, I wouldn't underestimate him - although not sure taking chances is their issue, they just don't create any...
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Quote from: jayffc on January 13, 2022, 04:17:24 PM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
Maybe they've already seen they've made a mistake and MLS made Eddie johnson and Bradley Wright Phillips look like world beaters
Went and saw a few games a few years back...dreadful to watch...reckon few league 2 teams would give most of them a stuffing
Some very very good players in MLS these days, and Dike isnt even in the top 15-20. Saying that he's a decent player, I wouldn't underestimate him - although not sure taking chances is their issue, they just don't create any...
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I mean, I keep up with it from time to time and still think the level is pretty atrocious most games I watch.
the Current "highest valued" player in the MLS on transfermarkt being a striker who managed 1 in 5 in Serie A...
Id be interested to see more competitive games between UK and US teams though
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
Maybe they've already seen they've made a mistake and MLS made Eddie johnson and Bradley Wright Phillips look like world beaters
Went and saw a few games a few years back...dreadful to watch...reckon few league 2 teams would give most of them a stuffing
Some very very good players in MLS these days, and Dike isnt even in the top 15-20. Saying that he's a decent player, I wouldn't underestimate him - although not sure taking chances is their issue, they just don't create any...
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I mean, I keep up with it from time to time and still think the level is pretty atrocious most games I watch.
the Current "highest valued" player in the MLS on transfermarkt being a striker who managed 1 in 5 in Serie A...
Id be interested to see more competitive games between UK and US teams though
Considering Pepi just sold to Augsburg for 19 million and transfermarkt had him listed at 9, not sure it can be relied upon as an accurate gauge of MLS player's value.
We could do a lot worse than sign Semenyo of Bristol City after his performance today. Fast, direct, skilful, a left & right foot for excellent goals
Come on Marco get the cheque book out!
Well if we do loose Fab, I think I agree.
Just seen that Derby admins have accepted a bid of £30k for one of their players. Think we could do a lot worse than trying to pick up Ebosele from them as he's a RB that looks to have a huge future ahead of him and we need to think long term with a backup option to Tete with Odoi getting on a bit and not being good enough for the PL
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
Just seen that Derby admins have accepted a bid of £30k for one of their players. Think we could do a lot worse than trying to pick up Ebosele from them as he's a RB that looks to have a huge future ahead of him and we need to think long term with a backup option to Tete with Odoi getting on a bit and not being good enough for the PL
Its Shinnie to Wigan.
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
Just seen that Derby admins have accepted a bid of £30k for one of their players. Think we could do a lot worse than trying to pick up Ebosele from them as he's a RB that looks to have a huge future ahead of him and we need to think long term with a backup option to Tete with Odoi getting on a bit and not being good enough for the PL
I think we should be looking at players that will improve the squad only. If you look at the championship now it is teeming with former Fulham academy prospects doing well, Adebayo, Edun, Spence, Woodrow, Atkinson and it seems like Matt O'Riley is going to join them after a good spell at MK Dons.
I think we should trust a little more in our academy at times. Carvalho is an example of a player that has come into the team and pushed £10 million players to the bench on merit.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
Just seen that Derby admins have accepted a bid of £30k for one of their players. Think we could do a lot worse than trying to pick up Ebosele from them as he's a RB that looks to have a huge future ahead of him and we need to think long term with a backup option to Tete with Odoi getting on a bit and not being good enough for the PL
I think we should be looking at players that will improve the squad only. If you look at the championship now it is teeming with former Fulham academy prospects doing well, Adebayo, Edun, Spence, Woodrow, Atkinson and it seems like Matt O'Riley is going to join them after a good spell at MK Dons.
I think we should trust a little more in our academy at times. Carvalho is an example of a player that has come into the team and pushed £10 million players to the bench on merit.
Well Ebosele is their starting RB in the fourth best defence in the Championship so I think he would improve the squad instantly. He's also unbeleivably quick (he caused Robinson issues with his pace and that is saying something) so think he has a PL future ahead of him
But would he push Tete out of the team? That is what I mean by improving the squad, genuine improvements and not just depth signings.
And he isn't really the starting RB, that is Nathan Byrne.
Mawson apparently in advanced talks to sign for Birmingham.
Quote from: Whitestone on January 17, 2022, 12:57:42 PM
Mawson apparently in advanced talks to sign for Birmingham.
Good good, as long as we have 4-5 capable CB in case of injury. It is time to trim a bit before adding.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sources-fulham-weighing-up-eye-catching-swoop-for-former-spurs-ace/ (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sources-fulham-weighing-up-eye-catching-swoop-for-former-spurs-ace/)
Fulham are genuinely tempted to make a firm move for Christian Eriksen, with the player currently seeking a way back into the game, Football League World has been told.
The Danish international last played for Inter Milan but was denied the opportunity to stay and play in Serie A in October as he has an implantable cardioverter-defibrillator in his chest, with Internazionale having to terminate his contract just before Christmas 2021.
Of course, he has been working his way back to fitness after suffering a cardiac arrest during a EURO 2020 group game last summer against Finland, and is now determined to get back playing at club level.
Speculation has been that a return to English football could be on the cards, with him enjoying a fine spell at Tottenham on these shores, and Fulham are among those interested in offering him a route back to the game in this country.
Football League World has been told that the chance to ease his way back into a winning team like Fulham could appeal to him, even if they're not currently in the Premier League.
The Dane does have interest in the top flight as well, though, and so it remains to be seen if we'll be seeing him in the Championship or not.
I mean it's football league world so it's probably nonsense but it's an interesting link. Saw Brentford were offering him a 6 month deal this morning.
Doubt...would be great though! Technically excellent but very little chance of happening
I mean there's no chance of this happening but what a signing that would be!
Imagine a front 4 of:
Mitro
Neeskens/Fab Eriksen Wilson
Ridiculous
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 17, 2022, 02:12:07 PM
I mean there's no chance of this happening but what a signing that would be!
Imagine a front 4 of:
Mitro
Neeskens/Fab Eriksen Wilson
Ridiculous
That's a Premier League level forward line if everyone's on form. Will never happen though.
I saw Brentford are after him. I know they're in the PL, but with our new stand complete and the fact we're top of the league, I think we are the more attractive option and we are certainly a more established club.
I think we would be a good way for him to get back into football, presuming he wants to lay down routes somewhere. If he's looking to be put back in the shop window at the highest level, then Brentford would be a good 6 months option.
Brentford have the strong Danish connection with their coach Thomas Frank and various players, so you'd have to expect they would be ahead of us, never mind their PL status (which looks likely to stay intact for next season).
Quote from: Whitestone on January 17, 2022, 12:57:42 PM
Mawson apparently in advanced talks to sign for Birmingham.
Without Mawson we have Tosin, Ream, Hetor, Kongolo and Odoi. Bet our rivals are not that well off.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 17, 2022, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 17, 2022, 02:12:07 PM
I mean there's no chance of this happening but what a signing that would be!
Imagine a front 4 of:
Mitro
Neeskens/Fab Eriksen Wilson
Ridiculous
That's a Premier League level forward line if everyone's on form. Will never happen though.
I actually think it could happen...he get's to come "home" to London and being in a winning team would (for a short recovery period) be more attractive than being beaten most weeks (i.e. Brentford)
I know that a lot of people refer to him as a playmaker but he is actually a hard worked as well. During his best season in Spurs he was one of the top 5 player in the league in terms of 'ground covered' per game.
CORRECTION: Covered the most ground in the whole league.
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/212757/which-player-has-covered-the-most-distance-in-the-premier-league-this-season/
Interesting perspectives on Eriksen. From memory, he's just about the most two-footed footballer I can recall watching. Buys so much time that quality. Everything is so balanced. Mahamadou Diarra without the crumbly knees. Would be a pleasure to watch in a Fulham shirt.
Can you imagine the meltdown the other championship teams would have if we brought Eriksen in until the end of the season...
I can imagine insurance being the main obstacle to anyone signing him, surely.
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WBA after Cauley Woodrow.
West Brom just bought Daryl Dike. Why would they now want Woodrow?
Maybe they've already seen they've made a mistake and MLS made Eddie johnson and Bradley Wright Phillips look like world beaters
Went and saw a few games a few years back...dreadful to watch...reckon few league 2 teams would give most of them a stuffing
Some very very good players in MLS these days, and Dike isnt even in the top 15-20. Saying that he's a decent player, I wouldn't underestimate him - although not sure taking chances is their issue, they just don't create any...
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I mean, I keep up with it from time to time and still think the level is pretty atrocious most games I watch.
the Current "highest valued" player in the MLS on transfermarkt being a striker who managed 1 in 5 in Serie A...
Id be interested to see more competitive games between UK and US teams though
Considering Pepi just sold to Augsburg for 19 million and transfermarkt had him listed at 9, not sure it can be relied upon as an accurate gauge of MLS player's value.
Also Martinez is a different animal compared to what he was like in Serie A, and he's spoken about how much he's improved - he'd do well in the prem these days, mark my words!
But anyways, the last word on MLS I'd say will be relevant to the thread: that there's some good deals to be had if you know where to look. Barco at Atlanta could be bought fairly cheaply with a year left on his contract and would provide a good option at LW and CAM. Miles Robinson too is turning into a really good CB option, but lots of Bundesliga teams are after him. Darlington Nagbe would make a decent CDM option too... The list goes on really!
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Quote from: Carborundum on January 17, 2022, 04:01:15 PM
Interesting perspectives on Eriksen. From memory, he's just about the most two-footed footballer I can recall watching. Buys so much time that quality. Everything is so balanced. Mahamadou Diarra without the crumbly knees. Would be a pleasure to watch in a Fulham shirt.
He is also one of the best free kick takers in the world. I agree that it is highly unlikely he would join with a Championship team over a Premier League team. That being said, maybe he wants to be in London and would rather spend his playing time with the ball instead of chasing it. Seems Fulham would be his best bet for doing that.
Where is WSW this transfer window??
Funny how he/she goes quiet when the PRESS are not linking us to players.
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Where is WSW this transfer window??
Funny how he/she goes quiet when the PRESS are not linking us to players.
lol.
Will be a big drop down for Alfie (Injuries taken it's toll)Hope he can play regular first team Football with Birmingham.
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Will be a big drop down for Alfie (Injuries taken it's toll)Hope he can play regular first team Football with Birmingham.
I think he's good enough to play here to be honest.
If he's fit I think he'd be a good pairing with Tosin, but it would be harsh to drop Ream for him now, and he'd be getting pretty impatient
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Will be a big drop down for Alfie (Injuries taken it's toll)Hope he can play regular first team Football with Birmingham.
I think he's good enough to play here to be honest.
If he's fit I think he'd be a good pairing with Tosin, but it would be harsh to drop Ream for him now, and he'd be getting pretty impatient
I would rather have Hector as a back up to Ream and Tosin as he has looked solid when he has played this season. Mawson just needs to move on and get playing again as it just hasn't worked out for him at Fulham.
Hector is the back up for Tosin on the right side, Mawson the back up for Ream on the left, where he is more comfortable.
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Hector is the back up for Tosin on the right side, Mawson the back up for Ream on the left, where he is more comfortable.
What I am saying is you don't need both. Hector has played perfectly well alongside Tosin and is solid at this level. You've also got Kongolo as well who is left sided if he ever gets back to fitness. It's too many centre halves in the squad for champ level and one needs to go in this window to free up wages so my view is that's Mawson. If and when we go up we will need to recruit 2 new centre backs of prem quality and keep Tosin with us as a priority.
Fulham have held talks with free agent midfielder Christian Eriksen, reports 90min.
Eriksen, 29, has endured a whirlwind 12 months. The former Spurs man suffered a cardiac arrest with Denmark at Euro 2020, leading to his eventual release from Inter Milan last month.
The Italian side and Eriksen agreed to mutually terminate his contract with the club after he failed to make his return to first-team action.
Now though, reports are backing Eriksen for a return to England with Brentford being heavily linked – they're said to be leading the race as it stands, with Crystal Palace and Fulham also being mentioned.
90min claim that Championship leaders Fulham have held talks with Eriksen over a possible move to Craven Cottage.
thoughts anyone i think he would do a great job
Tasty but can't see it happening.
Thought he was great at spuds during their spurs title challenge vs Leicester
Would be an amazing coup but I'm with Mr Dilkington.
Is this a wise move? Honestly?
He effectively died on the pitch less than a year ago and we'd now pay him - I'm guessing - a not small amount. Huge risk.
Don't get me wrong, unbelievable player on his day and any other circumstance I'd be well happy. I just think it's a huge risk for everyone involved, but especially him.
In any other circumstances ,we wouldn't have a chance of signing him
He would want guaranteed first team football. Who would he replace ?
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He would want guaranteed first team football. Who would he replace ?
Carvalho replacement if he's off maybe.
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Hector is the back up for Tosin on the right side, Mawson the back up for Ream on the left, where he is more comfortable.
What I am saying is you don't need both. Hector has played perfectly well alongside Tosin and is solid at this level. You've also got Kongolo as well who is left sided if he ever gets back to fitness. It's too many centre halves in the squad for champ level and one needs to go in this window to free up wages so my view is that's Mawson. If and when we go up we will need to recruit 2 new centre backs of prem quality and keep Tosin with us as a priority.
Think he will go at the end of the window if Kongolo is still here and everyone is fit. No point saving a weeks wager by letting him go now, just in case we get an injury or a suitable loan offer for Kongolo. We also have Odoi that can fill in if needs to be.
Only 20 league games left after tonight - less and less need for the players ranked 23-28 in the squad.
A player who has gone off the boil this season and seems in and out of a struggling team, that I quite rate, is Miguel Almirón. I wonder if we could entice him over if they go down....Feel liek he could play through middle or on either wing, has pace and can finish. Wonder how much the price tag would be though.....
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A player who has gone off the boil this season and seems in and out of a struggling team, that I quite rate, is Miguel Almirón. I wonder if we could entice him over if they go down....Feel liek he could play through middle or on either wing, has pace and can finish. Wonder how much the price tag would be though.....
I can't imagine they'd sell him now but if they get relegated I'd love that as a signing...
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Is this a wise move? Honestly?
He effectively died on the pitch less than a year ago and we'd now pay him - I'm guessing - a not small amount. Huge risk.
Don't get me wrong, unbelievable player on his day and any other circumstance I'd be well happy. I just think it's a huge risk for everyone involved, but especially him.
Pay as you play maybe?
Doctors given him the all clear so it's up to him I guess...
A player who played in a champions league final recently,isn't yet 30 and helped inter to a scudetto to break juventus domination would be sexy tho😈👍.
Sounds interesting, but would he be able to keep up with the pace-maker?
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Sounds interesting, but would he be able to keep up with the pace-maker?
Daley Blind at Ajax has been playing with one for a few years now. It's more just a failsafe at this point in case his heart stops again, but physically he's been declared fit enough to play
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Fulham have held talks with free agent midfielder Christian Eriksen, reports 90min. Eriksen, 29, has endured a whirlwind 12 months. The former Spurs man suffered a cardiac arrest with Denmark at Euro 2020, leading to his eventual release from Inter Milan last month.
The Italian side and Eriksen agreed to mutually terminate his contract with the club after he failed to make his return to first-team action. Now though, reports are backing Eriksen for a return to England with Brentford being heavily linked – they're said to be leading the race as it stands, with Crystal Palace and Fulham also being mentioned. 90min claim that Championship leaders Fulham have held talks with Eriksen over a possible move to Craven Cottage. thoughts anyone i think he would do a great job
Really a nice player. Sadly for him, this health condition could hinder his road back to football. As far as FFC is concerned, as much as I like him, I think you have to stay away from this player. I don't know how many times I've seen in this forum complaints/criticism about players who are constantly injured and unavailable, even to the point in many cases where a player is out for almost a whole season. I just see this as a possible disappointment should FFC actually secure this player. Hope I'm wrong and he can contribute if he comes here, but there have to be other players (healthy) out there that can bolster FFC.
Brentford are supposidly close to signing him unfortunately....hopefully not😢
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Brentford are supposidly close to signing him unfortunately....hopefully not😢
Good
Matt O'Reilly about to sign for Celtic from MK faux-Dons. Wish he'd stayed as he's turning into a very tidy player!
Apparently we've got an almost 50% sell-on clause so could pocket around £750k
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Matt O'Reilly about to sign for Celtic from MK faux-Dons. Wish he'd stayed as he's turning into a very tidy player!
Apparently we've got an almost 50% sell-on clause so could pocket around £750k
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Sell-on clause? I thought he left us out of contract, and then signed with MK Dons.
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Matt O'Reilly about to sign for Celtic from MK faux-Dons. Wish he'd stayed as he's turning into a very tidy player!
Apparently we've got an almost 50% sell-on clause so could pocket around £750k
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Sell-on clause? I thought he left us out of contract, and then signed with MK Dons.
He's an academy graduate therefore there'll always be a guaranteed compensation agreement as he left us without being transferred under the age of 21. As MK Dons are in a lower league, it was always going to be a sell on % as they can't afford to pay costs for him up front.
We dont need to sign anyone in the panic window that this is.....Summer we'll do our business.
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We dont need to sign anyone in the panic window that this is.....Summer we'll do our business.
Further clarification - we will do our business on the last day of the transfer window.
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We dont need to sign anyone in the panic window that this is.....Summer we'll do our business.
Further clarification - we will do our business on the last day of the transfer window.
For sure - will be dependant on how many transfer/loan outs we can accomplish prior to last day. I'm sure Silva and Tony have one or two preferred "ins" that can only happen if outs happen.
Has anyone said Dwight Gayle on loan yet...
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Has anyone said Dwight Gayle on loan yet...
Yes, 7 years ago :dft012:
Dwight gayle to Fulham is the story of a journo who couldn't give a toss about foolham
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Brentford are supposidly close to signing him unfortunately....hopefully not😢
Good
He'd undoubtedly strengthen them if he stays fit regardless if we need him or not
https://twitter.com/FulhamTransfer/status/1483928789356883971
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Come on Fabio. You know it makes sense lad at this stage in your career. [emoji3578]
Serie B side Como have offered to take Knockaert on loan
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Matt O'Reilly about to sign for Celtic from MK faux-Dons. Wish he'd stayed as he's turning into a very tidy player!
Apparently we've got an almost 50% sell-on clause so could pocket around £750k
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Sell-on clause? I thought he left us out of contract, and then signed with MK Dons.
He's an academy graduate therefore there'll always be a guaranteed compensation agreement as he left us without being transferred under the age of 21. As MK Dons are in a lower league, it was always going to be a sell on % as they can't afford to pay costs for him up front.
Then of course there's the money we might get for Matt
O'Riley
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Serie B side Como have offered to take Knockaert on loan
Great little ground on the shores of Lake Como but I'd be surprised if they had the money
I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
This window, not so.
But to stay in The Premier we once again needs to strengthen our defence.
Attacking line is good enough.
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I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
Me too, it's a great feeling. Hopefully we can retain what we have and offload Knockaert and Kongolo go out on loan. Any signings would be a bonus.
I too have a sneaking feeling Fabio will sign up for us
Well we just got 750k for O'Riley going to Celtic so that's some money in the kitty
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I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
Me too, it's a great feeling. Hopefully we can retain what we have and offload Knockaert and Kongolo go out on loan. Any signings would be a bonus.
Yeah one thing I've noticed over the past few years is that we are not very good at offloading players. We tend to see contracts expire.
Anyhow, we need to let a few players go that's for sure
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17393126/liverpool-west-ham-fabio-carvalho-transfer-fulham/
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CAVING NONE OF IT Liverpool and West Ham in Fabio Carvalho transfer blow as Fulham refuse to sell 18-year-old despite deal running down
Andy Dillon
23:04, 20 Jan 2022Updated: 23:12, 20 Jan 2022
FABIO CARVALHO is going nowhere this month in a blow to Liverpool and West Ham.
The two Premier League top four sides have been chasing the highly-rated winger who is out of contract at the end of the season.
Fabio Carvalho has attracted the attention of a number of Premier League clubs at Fulham
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Fabio Carvalho has attracted the attention of a number of Premier League clubs at FulhamCredit: Getty
But Championship Fulham are digging in and will steadfastly reject any firm bids for their latest teenage star.
That is even though they could end up losing him in the summer.
Carvalho, 18, has attracted interest from the top flight big guns.
He has had a run of exciting displays in Fulham's pursuit of promotion immediately back to the Premier League.
A source told SunSport: "Promotion back to the Premier League must be worth around £170 million to Fulham.
"No amount of money they could get for Fabio would be worth that if they sell him now."
Boss Marco Silva and the club are desperately trying to persuade him to sign a new long term deal and continue his footballing education at Craven Cottage.
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I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
Me too, it's a great feeling. Hopefully we can retain what we have and offload Knockaert and Kongolo go out on loan. Any signings would be a bonus.
Yeah one thing I've noticed over the past few years is that we are not very good at offloading players. We tend to see contracts expire.
Anyhow, we need to let a few players go that's for sure
We aren't going to sell any players to fellow yo-yo clubs, championship clubs don't have any money and unless the price is very high (eg Ryan Sess) TK prefers to keep our premier league quality players a bit longer rather than offload them.
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I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
Me too, it's a great feeling. Hopefully we can retain what we have and offload Knockaert and Kongolo go out on loan. Any signings would be a bonus.
Yeah one thing I've noticed over the past few years is that we are not very good at offloading players. We tend to see contracts expire.
Anyhow, we need to let a few players go that's for sure
We aren't going to sell any players to fellow yo-yo clubs, championship clubs don't have any money and unless the price is very high (eg Ryan Sess) TK prefers to keep our premier league quality players a bit longer rather than offload them.
I was referring to fringe players
CAVING NONE OF IT Liverpool and West Ham in Fabio Carvalho transfer blow as Fulham refuse to sell 18-year-old despite deal running down
Andy Dillon
23:04, 20 Jan 2022Updated: 23:12, 20 Jan 2022
FABIO CARVALHO is going nowhere this month in a blow to Liverpool and West Ham.
Finally Fulham get some balls
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Quote from: LC on January 20, 2022, 08:14:42 PM
I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
Me too, it's a great feeling. Hopefully we can retain what we have and offload Knockaert and Kongolo go out on loan. Any signings would be a bonus.
+1
Sure its only on Teamtalk but they are saying that we are in the hunt for Tom Lawrence.
I could get on board with that.
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Sure its only on Teamtalk but they are saying that we are in the hunt for Tom Lawrence.
I could get on board with that.
He's a purple patch kind of player, sort of like James Maddison but not at that level. They probably have to sell him but I don't see him improving us unless fabio leaves.
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Sure its only on Teamtalk but they are saying that we are in the hunt for Tom Lawrence.
I could get on board with that.
From football league world, probably just copied from teamtalk or maybe the other way.
Fulham have joined the race to sign Derby County player
By Declan Harte 21 January 2022, 11:06
Fulham have joined the race to sign Derby County's Tom Lawrence.
It has been revealed by Teamtalk that the league leaders are interested in bringing in the Rams' club captain.
Fulham are facing a battle of their own to keep Fabio Carvalho, with multiple Premier League clubs reportedly circling around the 19-year old.
Fulham see Lawrence as a replacement for the out of contract playmaker. Lawrence himself is also out of contract at the end of the season.
However, Fulham face competition for the 28-year old, with Wolves, Brighton & Hove Albion, Burnley and Newcastle all keen on the player.
Lawrence has been a key player in Derby's recent good form. He has scored seven goals and earned three assists so far in the Championship season.
He's a purple patch kind of player, sort of like James Maddison but not at that level. They probably have to sell him but I don't see him improving us unless fabio leaves.
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Quote from: LC on January 20, 2022, 08:14:42 PM
I have to say, this is the first time I've been relaxed going into a transfer window. I don't particularly care if we sign someone or not, and I feel like Fabio will sign a contract. What does that tell you..
Me too, it's a great feeling. Hopefully we can retain what we have and offload Knockaert and Kongolo go out on loan. Any signings would be a bonus.
Yeah one thing I've noticed over the past few years is that we are not very good at offloading players. We tend to see contracts expire.
Anyhow, we need to let a few players go that's for sure
We aren't going to sell any players to fellow yo-yo clubs, championship clubs don't have any money and unless the price is very high (eg Ryan Sess) TK prefers to keep our premier league quality players a bit longer rather than offload them.
I was referring to fringe players
True, but if Stef Jo is only worth £600k, then fringe players are worth even less and barely worth offloading. Christie could have been offloaded for a tiny fee, but once Tete got injured he stayed around as cover for Dennis Odoi.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 21, 2022, 11:30:34 AM
Sure its only on Teamtalk but they are saying that we are in the hunt for Tom Lawrence.
I could get on board with that.
Yes please, I mentioned him a while ago, would be a great signing ,
Derby have got two or three players that we should be looking at.
Louie Sibley would be a good addition along with Tom Lawrence!
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Louie Sibley would be a good addition along with Tom Lawrence!
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Quote from: sarvenpa on January 20, 2022, 08:24:26 PM
This window, not so.
But to stay in The Premier we once again needs to strengthen our defence.
Attacking line is good enough.
Not convinced, Mitro has historically not performed in the prem how he does at this level. Much as I love him , his mobility often hinders him against premier league teams. Kebano is another who hasnt ever quite made delivered consistently at the top...hes been in blinding form but I just think he lacks that little bit of composure to make it at the top. Wilson could step up potentially but its no guarantee. Fab looks capable, but still young - Cairney looks back to his best BUT again has never delivered at the top.
So to me I'd still want a starting quality LW and a challenge for Wilson at RW and unless they feel very confident that if Mitro fails Muniz and Stansfield can compete adequately I wouldn't be adverse to a good striker coming in that would allows us to loan out Stan or Muniz.
I'm more comfortable with our CAM options for now.
CM I think we're good between Seri - Reed - Cairney - Chalobah and potentially even Anguissa at this rate.
CB we need a top CB ala Joachim Anderson.
LB I'd like to move on Bryan, he deserves a team that uses him. Wouldnt be adverse to Aina tbf thought he did well there.
GK I'd be happy for Rodak to get his chance... but IF Areola was at all tempted and Fabianski isnt retiring just yet Id go all out (unlikely though)
RB it's probably time to have a better backup to Tete. (Aina again is agood swap for Odoi - whos become a club legend utility player in the Chris Baird mould by this point)
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Louie Sibley would be a good addition along with Tom Lawrence!
Ebosele as a long term RB option as well, he looks like Freddo MK2 to me
+1
Would nicking possibly their three best players for next to nothing finally cancel the hurt from 1983?
Just a week of the wretched window left and success to us means offloading a couple of our high wage earners not now being considered first team starters and retaining all of our other players. No need to make risky last minute signings as we have the players right now capable of getting the promotion points needed from the next 20 matches.
New signings a best left until earl in the summer window.
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Serie B side Como have offered to take Knockaert on loan
Great little ground on the shores of Lake Como but I'd be surprised if they had the money
Couldn't agree more.......I live in Como.......two teams with their grounds in beautiful settings, Fulham & Como...
Ebosele would be a good signing and send him back on loan to derby for the rest of the season
Can we give Como a BOGO and include Cav?
Re. Tom Lawrence, I'd definitely take him for the Championship but for the Premier League I'm not convinced he'd really be able to make the step up, especially since he's 28 and hasn't got much room for potential, whereas Harry Wilson I can see being able to push on. I'm not overly fussed about us signing anyone this window as long as Fabio signs, I think we need to be drawing up a list of targets for the summer for if and when we go up, so we aren't slow off the mark as we often are. Priority then will have to be the defence, we'll need at least two defenders who are Premier League quality, and perhaps one more with room for growth, then I'd start looking at the midfield with a view to strengthening in the middle. What I don't want us to do is do what we did in the last two prem seasons and prioritise a goalkeeper, as I believe Marek is more than good enough for the Prem, and I don't like our habit of loaning in various keepers and then rotating around until we find one that works. Our Prem team next season (should we be there) should be evolutionary not revolutionary, and to that extent I wouldn't replace current first-team players just for the sake of it.
Happily see no additions if we can manage to get Carvalho to sign a new deal as our only business
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What I don't want us to do is do what we did in the last two prem seasons and prioritise a goalkeeper, as I believe Marek is more than good enough for the Prem, and I don't like our habit of loaning in various keepers and then rotating around until we find one that works. Our Prem team next season (should we be there) should be evolutionary not revolutionary, and to that extent I wouldn't replace current first-team players just for the sake of it.
It doesn't look like Fabri's contract will be renewed, because he is not believed to be good enough for the premier league. That means a new premier league goalkeeper will need to be signed (probably on loan) for next season. It is unlikely we will be able to sign a premier league goalkeeper, unless he thinks he will be our #1.
In conclusion, if Fabri isn't next season's #3 goalkeeper; then next season Gazza will be #3 and Rodak will be #2.
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What I don't want us to do is do what we did in the last two prem seasons and prioritise a goalkeeper, as I believe Marek is more than good enough for the Prem, and I don't like our habit of loaning in various keepers and then rotating around until we find one that works. Our Prem team next season (should we be there) should be evolutionary not revolutionary, and to that extent I wouldn't replace current first-team players just for the sake of it.
It doesn't look like Fabri's contract will be renewed, because he is not believed to be good enough for the premier league. That means a new premier league goalkeeper will need to be signed (probably on loan) for next season. It is unlikely we will be able to sign a premier league goalkeeper, unless he thinks he will be our #1.
In conclusion, if Fabri isn't next season's #3 goalkeeper; then next season Gazza will be #3 and Rodak will be #2.
Rodak will almost certainly leave if we bring in a new goalkeeper in the summer if we get promoted. And if I'm honest, we will need a new number 1 goalkeeper if we go up.
I'm happy with Rodak next season if we go up... if Rodak wins his second promotion to the premier league with us and once again is not given a chance then quite frankly every youth prospect we have shouldn't stick around and we would fully deserve it.
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Serie B side Como have offered to take Knockaert on loan
Great little ground on the shores of Lake Como but I'd be surprised if they had the money
Couldn't agree more.......I live in Como.......two teams with their grounds in beautiful settings, Fulham & Como...
I wish I lived in como with a riva to boot😁
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 22, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
I'm happy with Rodak next season if we go up... if Rodak wins his second promotion to the premier league with us and once again is not given a chance then quite frankly every youth prospect we have shouldn't stick around and we would fully deserve it.
Yes! If he gets shafted twice he should leave for his own careers sake
Quote from: Litrecola_ on January 21, 2022, 05:51:46 PM
Can we give Como a BOGO and include Cav?
Como are a charity shop or something lol
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 22, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
I'm happy with Rodak next season if we go up... if Rodak wins his second promotion to the premier league with us and once again is not given a chance then quite frankly every youth prospect we have shouldn't stick around and we would fully deserve it.
Agree, Marek has proven to be a good keeper so don't know why we seem so averse to giving him a chance in the Prem. He will 100% leave if otherwise.
Quote from: Litrecola_ on January 21, 2022, 05:51:46 PM
Can we give Como a BOGO and include Cav?
Or just maybe see how a good coach, who will use him in the best position can effect his performances.
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 22, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
Agree, Marek has proven to be a good keeper so don't know why we seem so averse to giving him a chance in the Prem. He will 100% leave if otherwise.
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Rodak is decent but there are better out there. Assuming we get promoted we will 100% need an upgrade, just like last time. I hope the recruitment team are still in regular contact with Areola.
We need to stop replacing people who have earned the right to have a crack at Prem.
Brentford have kept most of last years team adding 3/4 it's worked the same.
Rodak deserves a chance in Prem as does Kebano.
We clearly need replacement at that level for Ream who is nearly 35 but I hope this time we have learned our lessons & get 3-4 signings of Harry Wilson level then I believe we have a chance
Quote from: Whitestone on January 22, 2022, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 22, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
Agree, Marek has proven to be a good keeper so don't know why we seem so averse to giving him a chance in the Prem. He will 100% leave if otherwise.
Rodak is decent but there are better out there. Assuming we get promoted we will 100% need an upgrade, just like last time. I hope the recruitment team are still in regular contact with Areola.
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I believe this is the attitude which screws up harmony in squads. Brentford are keeping their heads above water by largely belueving I the squad that got them promoted.
I like Rodak but he is no Ariola. hew has conceded cheap goals of late which he should have been getter closer to: Sheffield utd , Bristol city and Birmingham games all raise abit of a question mark for me if he is top class.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 22, 2022, 10:42:59 AM
I like Rodak but he is no Ariola. hew has conceded cheap goals of late which he should have been getter closer to: Sheffield utd , Bristol city and Birmingham games all raise abit of a question mark for me if he is top class.
I agree to an extent but he has been exposed by a combination of exposure at the back through our attacking intent and poor defending. It is the defence which will need an upgrade.
Quote from: Whitestone on January 22, 2022, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 22, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
Agree, Marek has proven to be a good keeper so don't know why we seem so averse to giving him a chance in the Prem. He will 100% leave if otherwise.
Rodak is decent but there are better out there. Assuming we get promoted we will 100% need an upgrade, just like last time. I hope the recruitment team are still in regular contact with Areola.
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True but there are also better than Mitrovic out there, and Seri, Tete, Tosin etc. The last two prem seasons we made the mistake of not prioritising the defence as an area to improve on, and we failed in the league because of that. Areola and Rico may have been good players for us but they didn't stop us going down, so it begs the question what good were they ultimately. Rodak is a good keeper and certainly not a weak link in the team, he's a full international for Slovakia and he's at the age where he'll want to improve and prove that he can do it at a higher level. Brentford and Leeds have both kept their keepers since going up (Meslier and Raya) and they've both done well for them since, so I don't see why Rodak couldn't do the same.
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 21, 2022, 06:05:22 PM
Re. Tom Lawrence, I'd definitely take him for the Championship but for the Premier League I'm not convinced he'd really be able to make the step up, especially since he's 28 and hasn't got much room for potential, whereas Harry Wilson I can see being able to push on. I'm not overly fussed about us signing anyone this window as long as Fabio signs, I think we need to be drawing up a list of targets for the summer for if and when we go up, so we aren't slow off the mark as we often are. Priority then will have to be the defence, we'll need at least two defenders who are Premier League quality, and perhaps one more with room for growth, then I'd start looking at the midfield with a view to strengthening in the middle. What I don't want us to do is do what we did in the last two prem seasons and prioritise a goalkeeper, as I believe Marek is more than good enough for the Prem, and I don't like our habit of loaning in various keepers and then rotating around until we find one that works. Our Prem team next season (should we be there) should be evolutionary not revolutionary, and to that extent I wouldn't replace current first-team players just for the sake of it.
I wouldn't take him at all wasn't he one of the players that were involved in the drink driving incident
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 22, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
I'm happy with Rodak next season if we go up... if Rodak wins his second promotion to the premier league with us and once again is not given a chance then quite frankly every youth prospect we have shouldn't stick around and we would fully deserve it.
+1. The only caveat would be if we could get Areola on a long term contract. He's class.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 22, 2022, 10:42:59 AM
I like Rodak but he is no Ariola. hew has conceded cheap goals of late which he should have been getter closer to: Sheffield utd , Bristol city and Birmingham games all raise abit of a question mark for me if he is top class.
Very harsh Colin.
Worth mentioning that if we got Areola back (which we most likely won't), he'll be our highest paid player by a fair amount
Quote from: ianthailand on January 22, 2022, 11:05:30 AM
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 22, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
I'm happy with Rodak next season if we go up... if Rodak wins his second promotion to the premier league with us and once again is not given a chance then quite frankly every youth prospect we have shouldn't stick around and we would fully deserve it.
+1. The only caveat would be if we could get Areola on a long term contract. He's class.
Agreed - we talked about the need to try to keep as many of the current squad in our Prem set up IF we go up. Replacing Rodak would be way down my list. We'll need 2 centre backs and cover at full backs first
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 22, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
I'm happy with Rodak next season if we go up... if Rodak wins his second promotion to the premier league with us and once again is not given a chance then quite frankly every youth prospect we have shouldn't stick around and we would fully deserve it.
Yeah, it is interesting how people keep banging on about how our youth prospects should be loyal when we are ready to discard them as soon as we get a chance. Rodak was on the same level as Raya the season we went up last and he did well for Brentford after going up (before his injury).
Areola is a great keeper, but he is also very expensive and there are other areas where I think we'd be better off investing first.
John Lundstram could be a good signing, was great in the PL with She U and is apparently about to leave rangers.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 22, 2022, 11:32:24 AM
John Lundstram could be a good signing, was great in the PL with She U and is apparently about to leave rangers.
Form fell off a cliff in their relegation season and upset a lot of their supporters with a perceived lack of effort and downing tools once the Rangers interest came. Damaged goods for me but in theory if he was as good as he was before all that for Sheff U then he could be a good signing, but personally think better is out there.
Quote from: ianthailand on January 22, 2022, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on January 22, 2022, 10:42:59 AM
I like Rodak but he is no Ariola. hew has conceded cheap goals of late which he should have been getter closer to: Sheffield utd , Bristol city and Birmingham games all raise abit of a question mark for me if he is top class.
Very harsh Colin.
Agree its harsh ,but we are talking about a tough league and letting goals in at your near post ,or side foot shots from 25b yards raises questions. Im not saying he is nt good enough, just that he needs to keep improving.
There is not a lot of room for sentiment if we want to stay up when we get there. Rodak is number 1 now ,no question and he he will know he has to cut out some of the goals the he has conceded of late.
Quote from: ianthailand on January 22, 2022, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on January 22, 2022, 10:42:59 AM
I like Rodak but he is no Ariola. hew has conceded cheap goals of late which he should have been getter closer to: Sheffield utd , Bristol city and Birmingham games all raise abit of a question mark for me if he is top class.
Very harsh Colin.
It might sound harsh but it's true.
Areola and Andersen where our best players last season by a country mile. If we go up we will need to fill those shoes to have any chance of survival. I think too many posters are blinded by sentiment. Supporters will always support, players come and go. If the owners are as ambitious as I believe they are they should bring in the best players to achieve the target of Premier League survival in the first instance.
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Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 21, 2022, 06:05:22 PM
Re. Tom Lawrence, I'd definitely take him for the Championship but for the Premier League I'm not convinced he'd really be able to make the step up, especially since he's 28 and hasn't got much room for potential, whereas Harry Wilson I can see being able to push on. I'm not overly fussed about us signing anyone this window as long as Fabio signs, I think we need to be drawing up a list of targets for the summer for if and when we go up, so we aren't slow off the mark as we often are. Priority then will have to be the defence, we'll need at least two defenders who are Premier League quality, and perhaps one more with room for growth, then I'd start looking at the midfield with a view to strengthening in the middle. What I don't want us to do is do what we did in the last two prem seasons and prioritise a goalkeeper, as I believe Marek is more than good enough for the Prem, and I don't like our habit of loaning in various keepers and then rotating around until we find one that works. Our Prem team next season (should we be there) should be evolutionary not revolutionary, and to that extent I wouldn't replace current first-team players just for the sake of it.
I wouldn't take him at all wasn't he one of the players that were involved in the drink driving incident
He was yes, and he rightfully got a lot of stick for it from the Derby fans. However I believe he was very repentant and has matured since then, working for a cancer charity in the meantime and stepped up to take the captain's armband. I hate drink-driving as much as anyone but I think he deserves some credit for seemingly coming out of it a better person (and player)
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 22, 2022, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 22, 2022, 11:32:24 AM
John Lundstram could be a good signing, was great in the PL with She U and is apparently about to leave rangers.
Form fell off a cliff in their relegation season and upset a lot of their supporters with a perceived lack of effort and downing tools once the Rangers interest came. Damaged goods for me but in theory if he was as good as he was before all that for Sheff U then he could be a good signing, but personally think better is out there.
We do need a lot of players who will run,work hard/put a shift in and run channels etc if we're going to have a chance to stay up. Function>style to beat the drop. At least until you've stabilised
Quote from: ianthailand on January 22, 2022, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on January 22, 2022, 10:42:59 AM
I like Rodak but he is no Ariola. hew has conceded cheap goals of late which he should have been getter closer to: Sheffield utd , Bristol city and Birmingham games all raise abit of a question mark for me if he is top class.
Very harsh Colin.
Is Ariola better than Rodak - yes no doubt
Is hey worth the big money he is on be our budget - I'm not sure!!
If we would have spend his PSG salary on a decent midfield loan player (rather than RLC) would we have more points last season? Ariola made some amazing saves, but I think his loan fee and heavy salary would have been better spend in other areas last season (beating in min FFP)
So in short:
Ariola to replace Fabri with the same wages - YES PLEASE
Ariola on PSG wages - no thanks, let's revisit that on deadline day once we know the rest of our players/budget
My list next season:
Goalkeeper (not necessarily to replace Rodak)
Centre back
Left back
Midfielder
Left forward
Striker (challenge to Mitro and Fabio Carv)
Ariola playing for the Hammers today
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
Quote from: St Eve on January 22, 2022, 02:52:19 PM
Ariola playing for the Hammers today
Until I saw this today I thought he was their starting GK all season
With Tete potentially out for a while, I wonder if a new RB might now be on the agenda? I will try and find out
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 22, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
With Tete potentially out for a while, I wonder if a new RB might now be on the agenda? I will try and find out
Would love Reggie Cannon if we revisit that deal, he'll make Robinson look slow bombing down the right wing
Cheers wsw any other info on signings
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 22, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
With Tete potentially out for a while, I wonder if a new RB might now be on the agenda? I will try and find out
Would love Reggie Cannon if we revisit that deal, he'll make Robinson look slow bombing down the right wing
I will (re)register my support for Reggie Cannon. He's very good with upside. Would be a quality signing.
The good thing this season should be that we will know we arepromoted therefore """in theory""" we can plan signing earlier rather than after the play offs
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 22, 2022, 07:28:34 PM
Cheers wsw any other info on signings
Need more outgoings before we can bring anyone else in, before today Silva wanted a CDM, number 10 and a winger but that May change now Tete is injured. A deal was agreed for Yokuslu, however, we haven't been able to shift enough players in time so he is joining a Spanish team
Thanks for the info WSW.
Bolton have a very impressive young Right Back... tons of pace, skillful and athletic, who also seems to be a good one v one defender. I wonder how much he'd cost us?
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on January 22, 2022, 08:35:10 PM
Bolton have a very impressive young Right Back... tons of pace, skillful and athletic, who also seems to be a good one v one defender. I wonder how much he'd cost us?
Do you know his name ?
Marlon Fossey!
Having the impressive Fossey (as well as Steven Sessegnon) in front of them at Fulham was, I believe, the main reason that Djed Spence and Cody Drameh felt the desire to play elsewhere. His career trajectory has been blighted by several injuries, but he seems to be past them now and is playing brilliantly on loan at Bolton. He was one of the most outstanding members of our successful youth teams a few years back
Fulham believes in him enough to have signed him to a new contract before sending him out on loan. If Tete's out for a length of time, I wonder if we have a recall clause?
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 22, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
With Tete potentially out for a while, I wonder if a new RB might now be on the agenda? I will try and find out
Would love Reggie Cannon if we revisit that deal, he'll make Robinson look slow bombing down the right wing
Looks like an interesting player indeed. Wouldn't imagine he'd cost a tonne from boavista
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
Best team in the league, best stats for years by anyone, best striker etc etc etc, and you have to have a go at the boss!
Really?
Pffft beggars belief really does!
Cheers wsw much appreciated
Someone mentioned Ebosele earlier, he might be an option now...
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on January 22, 2022, 09:27:51 PM
Fulham believes in him enough to have signed him to a new contract before sending him out on loan. If Tete's out for a length of time, I wonder if we have a recall clause?
Yes that makes sense.
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 22, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 22, 2022, 07:28:34 PM
Cheers wsw any other info on signings
Need more outgoings before we can bring anyone else in, before today Silva wanted a CDM, number 10 and a winger but that May change now Tete is injured. A deal was agreed for Yokuslu, however, we haven't been able to shift enough players in time so he is joining a Spanish team
That's a real shame as I thought he was good for WBA last season.
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
I'm a Rodak fan and have been for a while, but we do need a new keeper next season
Quote from: LC on January 22, 2022, 11:48:23 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 22, 2022, 11:32:15 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
I'm a Rodak fan and have been for a while, but we do need a new keeper next season
Areola?
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
I'm a Rodak fan and have been for a while, but we do need a new keeper next season
Areola?
Bettinelli?
Let us hold off in this window, make sure we don't lose any ton players and start working on the early signing of Areola and Anderson in the summer window.
Not sure you should always go back their history is Relegation.
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
I'm a Rodak fan and have been for a while, but we do need a new keeper next season
Areola?
Yes or Jack Butland
Quote from: LC on January 23, 2022, 12:23:54 PM
Quote from: Alec of good Stock on January 23, 2022, 12:10:04 AM
Quote from: LC on January 22, 2022, 11:48:23 PM
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
I'm a Rodak fan and have been for a while, but we do need a new keeper next season
Areola?
Yes or Jack Butland
Butland has been bad again this season.....Don't think he'll ever recover. I'd have Rodak and Gazz over him.
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
I'm a Rodak fan and have been for a while, but we do need a new keeper next season
Areola?
Yes or Jack Butland
Butland has been bad again this season.....Don't think he'll ever recover. I'd have Rodak and Gazz over him.
He hasn't played has he? Thought he was back up at Palace
19 pages and not so much as a rumour,
Must mean we're in a good place, need to have a look at the right back situation though.
Am I right in thinking Areola is only at West Ham as a loanee?
Surely if we achieve promotion a bid to take him here permanently should be our number 1 priority - if he is willing to sign for us!
Quote from: copthornemike on January 23, 2022, 03:34:57 PM
Am I right in thinking Areola is only at West Ham as a loanee?
Surely if we achieve promotion a bid to take him here permanently should be our number 1 priority - if he is willing to sign for us!
I believe its a loan plus an option to buy
Quote from: Riversider on January 23, 2022, 02:59:28 PM
19 pages and not so much as a rumour,
Must mean we're in a good place, need to have a look at the right back situation though.
But in all fairness since the Khans came in we've never really had solid rumours, and we've always signed players that were never spoken about. Wouldn't surprise me to see one name come in on the last day of the window.
But I agree, we're in a good place
I really liked areola last year but doubt he'll be back
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
Lol who needs a PL goalscorer and a solid defence!? Not us...
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 23, 2022, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 22, 2022, 11:32:15 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
Lol who needs a PL goalscorer and a solid defence!? Not us...
I mean the team that Parker was given last season should've stayed up but you know
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Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 23, 2022, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 22, 2022, 11:32:15 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 22, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Another huge summer for Tony"the phoney"Khan and mackintosh to f_uck up lol
The stat machine will say we need a goalkeeper and 500 midfielders as per usual
Lol who needs a PL goalscorer and a solid defence!? Not us...
I mean the team that Parker was given last season should've stayed up but you know
I agree...parker put our best striker on bench filling duty😨
All the moaning about the Tony Khan is misguided, yes he made a number of poor signings over the years but last season and this season he signed good players at great prices; getting Robinson, Tosin and Tete for £7m combined is unbelievable business. Wilson and Muniz look like smart business as well.
I know it's a bit random but Dwight mcneil always looks good if burnley relegated..maybe a long shot?
Adding to if Burnley go down we should go all out to sign James tarkowski (not sure of spelling)
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 23, 2022, 05:22:39 PM
Adding to if Burnley go down we should go all out to sign James tarkowski (not sure of spelling)
Would love him! Ben mee too
https://twitter.com/friendsoffulham/status/1485307845151232002
Butlands been playing last 3-4 games. Made two mistakes in the two games I watched him in. Shame as he has the skill set to be a decent GK but he's so inconsistent...
If Sean Dyche is unable to do his usual miracle of keeping Burnley up Nick Pope & Tarkowski would be excellent recruits although their would be / should be competition for both.
Quote from: copthornemike on January 23, 2022, 06:00:10 PM
If Sean Dyche is unable to do his usual miracle of keeping Burnley up Nick Pope & Tarkowski would be excellent recruits although their would be / should be competition for both.
The issue with Pope and Tarkowski is neither are particularly good on the ball, so doubt we would even look at them
Quote from: copthornemike on January 23, 2022, 06:00:10 PM
If Sean Dyche is unable to do his usual miracle of keeping Burnley up Nick Pope & Tarkowski would be excellent recruits although their would be / should be competition for both.
Yes! Both please. Like 4 burnley players i'd really like
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 23, 2022, 04:45:32 PM
I know it's a bit random but Dwight mcneil always looks good if burnley relegated..maybe a long shot?
Agree I'd love him, but I'd see him going to somewhere maybe bit further up such as Everton or Leicester
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 24, 2022, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 23, 2022, 04:45:32 PM
I know it's a bit random but Dwight mcneil always looks good if burnley relegated..maybe a long shot?
Agree I'd love him, but I'd see him going to somewhere maybe bit further up such as Everton or Leicester
I agree unfortunately...could see him playing for rodgers but who knows how much longer he'll be there...maybe burnout?
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Quote from: copthornemike on January 23, 2022, 06:00:10 PM
If Sean Dyche is unable to do his usual miracle of keeping Burnley up Nick Pope & Tarkowski would be excellent recruits although their would be / should be competition for both.
The issue with Pope and Tarkowski is neither are particularly good on the ball, so doubt we would even look at them
Agree
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Quote from: copthornemike on January 23, 2022, 06:00:10 PM
If Sean Dyche is unable to do his usual miracle of keeping Burnley up Nick Pope & Tarkowski would be excellent recruits although their would be / should be competition for both.
The issue with Pope and Tarkowski is neither are particularly good on the ball, so doubt we would even look at them
Tarkovski could match the way we play I think, we don't do as much passing from the back as we did under Parker and we make a lot more long balls from defence, especially from one wing to the other. He can do that.
Pope I agree is not great with the ball at his feet and I'd prefer Areola.
Tarkowski would be a realistic dream
According to the media rumour mongers Liverpool, Spurs and Wet Spam all showing interest in Carvalho. Perhaps all three are waiting for someone else to make the first move. Well than a week left now, lets hope they trip over each other and Carvalho stays with us to see out the promotion challenge.
Quote from: filham on January 24, 2022, 02:40:36 PM
According to the media rumour mongers Liverpool, Spurs and Wet Spam all showing interest in Carvalho. Perhaps all three are waiting for someone else to make the first move. Well than a week left now, lets hope they trip over each other and Carvalho stays with us to see out the promotion challenge.
Don't forget Leeds. But I doubt we are selling for the peanuts that have been touted in the press so far. Rather lose a million or two on compensation instead.
Borussia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen also added to the mix now. That would be worse as they wouldn't have to pay compensation.
Quote from: filham on January 24, 2022, 02:40:36 PM
According to the media rumour mongers Liverpool, Spurs and Wet Spam all showing interest in Carvalho. Perhaps all three are waiting for someone else to make the first move. Well than a week left now, lets hope they trip over each other and Carvalho stays with us to see out the promotion challenge.
I don't think we will sell him in this window Mr F, we have too much money at stake in getting promoted
German clubs competing for Carvalho as well, apparently.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/bundesliga-clubs-join-liverpool-race-youngster-club-consider-player-nearly-lost/
Eirksen is going to Brentford, pending a medical.
Promotion to the Prem is worth £190m, there is zero chance we'll cash in on Carvalho this window, especially for the 5m that's being reported
To be fair he'd probably look pretty good in the bundesliga as some of the standard there is very poor.
Look at how uncompetitive Dortmund are with Bayern at the top...it boggles the mind indeed but they are a good stepping stone club to one of the big daddies.
I think somewhere like Dortmund would be a great move for Fab objectively, just not for us financially - we'd get virtually nothing.
Quote from: paulbrookersmazydribbles on January 24, 2022, 04:38:46 PM
I think somewhere like Dortmund would be a great move for Fab objectively, just not for us financially - we'd get virtually nothing.
Lol we normally get virtually nothing when we sell players regularly. Look at anguissa, with a better coach and as a DM I honestly feel like he could be a monster,but no,we have to sell him for 16 Mil lol. That's nothing for him...😨
I think it maybe euros aswell...😂
Lets splash out 20m on Brennan Johnson...versatile, young and one that possibly could make the step up to the PL...
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 24, 2022, 06:47:08 PM
Lets splash out 20m on Brennan Johnson...versatile, young and one that possibly could make the step up to the PL...
Another one Brentford want. Depends if we want to become a develop and sell on kind of club or not?
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 24, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 24, 2022, 06:47:08 PM
Lets splash out 20m on Brennan Johnson...versatile, young and one that possibly could make the step up to the PL...
Another one Brentford want. Depends if we want to become a develop and sell on kind of club or not?
I'd rather be that kind of club than the give away for free and then receive a paltry sell-on fee kind of club
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 24, 2022, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 24, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 24, 2022, 06:47:08 PM
Lets splash out 20m on Brennan Johnson...versatile, young and one that possibly could make the step up to the PL...
Another one Brentford want. Depends if we want to become a develop and sell on kind of club or not?
I'd rather be that kind of club than the give away for free and then receive a paltry sell-on fee kind of club
Big agree
Tarkowski's prowess with the ball at his feet doesn't trouble me. Remember those halcyon days where half the team - four defenders and Dickson's one instruction was: "Get the ball to Danny, he won't be far away and let him figure out what to do with it". Seemed to go OK.
We need defenders who can physically win their personal battle and this fellow can.
Might be worth keeping an eye on the young Stoke forward D'Margio Wright-Philips who had an excellent game against us the other night - might have even been his debut! Kebano is playing as well as ever at the moment but young D'Margio might be excellent cover and / or successor!
Depending what the price is, if cheap for squad depth, I'd love Sander Berge. Think he's a real gem in that side. Rocky season with injury but every time I watch him I think he's decent.
Isiah Jones with some coaching on decision making could be an amazing player too.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 24, 2022, 09:05:16 PM
Depending what the price is, if cheap for squad depth, I'd love Sander Berge. Think he's a real gem in that side. Rocky season with injury but every time I watch him I think he's decent.
Isiah Jones with some coaching on decision making could be an amazing player too.
Decent shout
I am completely switched off about new incoming players, the priority right now is to get our players free of Covid and fit and ready for the next match. We already have the quality players to win the Championship .
Just heard on wireless that Bournemouth looking to bring Keifer Moore and Tommy Lawrence in. Two good signings there.
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 25, 2022, 12:02:27 PM
Just heard on wireless that Bournemouth looking to bring Keifer Moore and Tommy Lawrence in. Two good signings there.
Both stand out in the Championship but I very much doubt they would cut it in the Premier League. Neither would be very ambitious signings.
Quote from: Whitestone on January 25, 2022, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 25, 2022, 12:02:27 PM
Just heard on wireless that Bournemouth looking to bring Keifer Moore and Tommy Lawrence in. Two good signings there.
Both stand out in the Championship but I very much doubt they would cut it in the Premier League. Neither would be very ambitious signings.
Especially Moore I feel
Quote from: Whitestone on January 25, 2022, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 25, 2022, 12:02:27 PM
Just heard on wireless that Bournemouth looking to bring Keifer Moore and Tommy Lawrence in. Two good signings there.
Both stand out in the Championship but I very much doubt they would cut it in the Premier League. Neither would be very ambitious signings.
Agree 100% - good players for a team trying to win promotion but not a team going up
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 24, 2022, 09:05:16 PM
Depending what the price is, if cheap for squad depth, I'd love Sander Berge. Think he's a real gem in that side. Rocky season with injury but every time I watch him I think he's decent.
Isiah Jones with some coaching on decision making could be an amazing player too.
Agree good shout (re sander berge) not seen much of Isiah Jones but Spence for Boro / Forest looks good - ex Fulham also I believe
Quote from: filham on January 24, 2022, 10:17:05 PM
I am completely switched off about new incoming players, the priority right now is to get our players free of Covid and fit and ready for the next match. We already have the quality players to win the Championship .
Agree re quality players
Doesn't look like we are going to see any exciting incoming deals, might just as well send someone up to Newcastle to be ready for a last minute loan deal...one or two 5month loans could be valuable if we manage to offload some of our less successful signing.
They already have 26 overage players (excluding the long term injuries), 25 if they cut the 4th GK from the squad. With a few more players expected to join they will surely do a few last minute loans. The likes of Krafth, Hendricks and Gayle are all solid Championship players, not stars but useful for rotation and/or if we are missing a few players (Tete etc.).
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 25, 2022, 12:51:58 PM
Doesn't look like we are going to see any exciting incoming deals, might just as well send someone up to Newcastle to be ready for a last minute loan deal...one or two 5month loans could be valuable if we manage to offload some of our less successful signing.
They already have 26 overage players (excluding the long term injuries), 25 if they cut the 4th GK from the squad. With a few more players expected to join they will surely do a few last minute loans. The likes of Krafth, Hendricks and Gayle are all solid Championship players, not stars but useful for rotation and/or if we are missing a few players (Tete etc.).
This makes a lot of sense if, like you said, we can offload enough of our unsuccessful loans/fringe players.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2022, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 24, 2022, 09:05:16 PM
Depending what the price is, if cheap for squad depth, I'd love Sander Berge. Think he's a real gem in that side. Rocky season with injury but every time I watch him I think he's decent.
Isiah Jones with some coaching on decision making could be an amazing player too.
Agree good shout (re sander berge) not seen much of Isiah Jones but Spence for Boro / Forest looks good - ex Fulham also I believe
Apparently Spurs looking at Spence, I like him, but he's not consistently been this good so I'd be a little wary to be honest. Jones needs to improve his final ball if he wants to step up from mediocre championship player to top 2 championship side and EPL side.
I've only watched Spence 2 or 3 times, but every time I do he looks like such a handful. Rapid pace, good delivery, a few tricks. There's definitely some potential there.
Quote from: bencher on January 25, 2022, 01:45:03 PM
I've only watched Spence 2 or 3 times, but every time I do he looks like such a handful. Rapid pace, good delivery, a few tricks. There's definitely some potential there.
I'd say hes been fantastic the last 4 appearances I saw him since probably Nov. Before that, he was ok, nothing special. So definitely got potential.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2022, 12:45:11 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on January 25, 2022, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 25, 2022, 12:02:27 PM
Just heard on wireless that Bournemouth looking to bring Keifer Moore and Tommy Lawrence in. Two good signings there.
Both stand out in the Championship but I very much doubt they would cut it in the Premier League. Neither would be very ambitious signings.
Agree 100% - good players for a team trying to win promotion but not a team going up
Parker must now be concentrating just on getting promotion, if he fails his job could be on the line and under those circumstances there is no point in thinking about the Premier League until you get there.
Been told incomings VERY unlikely this window, the only possibly outcome might be is if a right back becomes available for a good price. If not don't expect much.
Would like a RB
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 03:44:32 PM
Been told incomings VERY unlikely this window, the only possibly outcome might be is if a right back becomes available for a good price. If not don't expect much.
More or less as expected and probably a wise decision. Our squad looks strong enough for promotion. We don't need to waste money on Championship players. We need Premier League players for (hopefully) next season and we won't be able to sign that kind of players before we're actually promoted.
Hopefully this also means we won't lose any important players this window. Any news on Carvalho?
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 03:44:32 PM
Been told incomings VERY unlikely this window, the only possibly outcome might be is if a right back becomes available for a good price. If not don't expect much.
If we go up then it's a masterstroke, if we miss out by a point ....we'll
Tete out and a heavy international work load before the start of April might mean it being a bit of a gamble,
Time will tell.
Quote from: Riversider on January 25, 2022, 04:27:58 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 03:44:32 PM
Been told incomings VERY unlikely this window, the only possibly outcome might be is if a right back becomes available for a good price. If not don't expect much.
If we go up then it's a masterstroke, if we miss out by a point ....we'll
Tete out and a heavy international work load before the start of April might mean it being a bit of a gamble,
Time will tell.
You have to imagine that, if they can loan off/cancel loan contracts for 3 - 4 players, this may change.
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
+1 why get a drop on others when you can scramble like a fool
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
I would like to see more scouting in the lower leagues in this country to be honest. There are some gems to be found, we've seen it many times before over the last few years: Dean Ashton, Dele Ali, Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Harry Maguire (mentioned many times on this forum by many), Ollie Watkins and others.
No doubt the priority in this window has been to hold on to our best players, we are within five days of achieving that.
Quote from: LC on January 25, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
I would like to see more scouting in the lower leagues in this country to be honest. There are some gems to be found, we've seen it many times before over the last few years: Dean Ashton, Dele Ali, Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Harry Maguire (mentioned many times on this forum by many), Ollie Watkins and others.
+1 and the resell on English lower league players can be nuts these days if we were ran smart
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough . Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
Thank you WSW, kind sir, for the update. Sure hope it plays out that way, and FFC gains auto. Still a little over half season yet to go. Glad to hear Silva more hands-on and will get those opportunities. COYW
Hull in for Ryan Babel.
Quote from: LC on January 25, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
I would like to see more scouting in the lower leagues in this country to be honest. There are some gems to be found, we've seen it many times before over the last few years: Dean Ashton, Dele Ali, Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Harry Maguire (mentioned many times on this forum by many), Ollie Watkins and others.
I agree 100%
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2022, 02:34:15 AM
Quote from: LC on January 25, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
I would like to see more scouting in the lower leagues in this country to be honest. There are some gems to be found, we've seen it many times before over the last few years: Dean Ashton, Dele Ali, Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Harry Maguire (mentioned many times on this forum by many), Ollie Watkins and others.
I agree 100%
There are a lot of "great young players" that are playing in the EFL leagues, but increasingly many of the best young players in the EFL are owned by the big clubs (like James Garner is owned by Manchester United and Sepp van den Berg is owned by Liverpool).
Quote from: LC on January 25, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
I would like to see more scouting in the lower leagues in this country to be honest. There are some gems to be found, we've seen it many times before over the last few years: Dean Ashton, Dele Ali, Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Harry Maguire (mentioned many times on this forum by many), Ollie Watkins and others.
There are also many flops, just like signing players from anywhere...
The one season we went for wholly British players in our recruitment we nearly went down to League 1 under Kit Symons
Quote from: @jolslover on January 26, 2022, 08:48:55 AM
Quote from: LC on January 25, 2022, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 25, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 25, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 25, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
The good thing is if/when are promoted we can start shoppig for Prem players earlier unlike last time
It will still be last minute signings though
I don't disagree. That said, why such a good thing shopping earlier if management ends up doing its' business last minute? We've seen this picture before over the last number of years. Of course, FFC still needs to gain promotion (auto preferably) and still a long way to go.
I can hand on heart, assure you that the key bits of business will be down early. Silva has insisted on it, he was stung at Everton by them not doing business early enough
. Silva has got assurances, Silca also more involved than any previous FFC manager under the Khan's in recruitment. Portugal and South America being significantly scouted too
I would like to see more scouting in the lower leagues in this country to be honest. There are some gems to be found, we've seen it many times before over the last few years: Dean Ashton, Dele Ali, Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Harry Maguire (mentioned many times on this forum by many), Ollie Watkins and others.
There are also many flops, just like signing players from anywhere...
The one season we went for wholly British players in our recruitment we nearly went down to League 1 under Kit Symons
There are plenty of flops from overseas including taking months to so call acclimatise.
Perhaps you should go and support a team from overseas where you will feel more comfortable.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2022, 09:51:48 AM
There are plenty of flops from overseas including taking months to so call acclimatise.
Perhaps you should go and support a team from overseas where you will feel more comfortable.
Imagine being so incredibly thin skinned about your nationalism that your reaction to someone saying that only recruiting from England might not be a panacea is to tell them to leave.
Better get rid of our manager and top goalscorer, they're a dangerous foreign influence after all.
Let's all get a tea and a snickers and chill out chaps.
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 25, 2022, 03:57:48 PM
Would like a RB
Why, Tete and Odoi are more than good enough for the next 19 games.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Let's all get a tea and a snickers and chill out chaps.
Marathon is a much better name than snickers. Sounds like an item of ladies underwear. Only in America!!!!!
Quote from: ianthailand on January 26, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Let's all get a tea and a snickers and chill out chaps.
Marathon is a much better name than snickers. Sounds like an item of ladies underwear. Only in America!!!!!
*spits Tea out* Now I'm triggered.
Quote from: filham on January 26, 2022, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 25, 2022, 03:57:48 PM
Would like a RB
Why, Tete and Odoi are more than good enough for the next 19 games.
Tete is injured isn't he? And Odoi cannot play anymore games in the prem...when you look at his face in the past in the prem even he looks like he knows he doesn't belong.
Do the lad a favour...good going forward at champ level but even found out defensively at this level. Upgrade needed...
Good servant I will add though.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 26, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Let's all get a tea and a snickers and chill out chaps.
Marathon is a much better name than snickers. Sounds like an item of ladies underwear. Only in America!!!!!
*spits Tea out* Now I'm triggered.
Snickers>Marathon...even though i'm too nubile to have ever eaten a marathon lol. You will be still forced to read my opinion 😄
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2022, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 26, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Let's all get a tea and a snickers and chill out chaps.
Marathon is a much better name than snickers. Sounds like an item of ladies underwear. Only in America!!!!!
*spits Tea out* Now I'm triggered.
Snickers>Marathon...even though i'm too nubile to have ever eaten a marathon lol. You will be still forced to read my opinion 😄
I am Spangled
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 26, 2022, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2022, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: ianthailand on January 26, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Let's all get a tea and a snickers and chill out chaps.
Marathon is a much better name than snickers. Sounds like an item of ladies underwear. Only in America!!!!!
*spits Tea out* Now I'm triggered.
Snickers>Marathon...even though i'm too nubile to have ever eaten a marathon lol. You will be still forced to read my opinion 😄
I am Spangled
Sunbury White ...you're showing your age....I haven't heard of Spangles in 60+ years! :003:
Does anyone know how much money we received for Matt O'Reilly transfer to Celtic?
Quote from: Jeroen on January 26, 2022, 02:44:35 PM
Does anyone know how much money we received for Matt O'Reilly transfer to Celtic?
Nothing set in stone, but we were rumoured to have a clause for 50% and he was apparently sold for about 1.5 million. So somehwere around 750k.
Quote from: Tabby on January 26, 2022, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2022, 09:51:48 AM
There are plenty of flops from overseas including taking months to so call acclimatise.
Perhaps you should go and support a team from overseas where you will feel more comfortable.
Imagine being so incredibly thin skinned about your nationalism that your reaction to someone saying that only recruiting from England might not be a panacea is to tell them to leave.
Better get rid of our manager and top goalscorer, they're a dangerous foreign influence after all.
Woolly Mammoths are definitely not thin skinned.
So things have changed and we've found some cash (not fab related) but I would expect Atleast 1 player in if all goes to plan. I don't know names or positions but that's what I've been told. Time will tell what happens
Thanks WSW, maybe from the MOR transfer to Celtic? Not much but helps I guess
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 26, 2022, 05:12:13 PM
Thanks WSW, maybe from the MOR transfer to Celtic? Not much but helps I guess
Probably got more to do with sky reporting Kongolo of to Groningen on loan (although the MOR money will help too), hadn't heard the Kongolo rumour before now, but have heard murmurings about a permanent move for Knockaert
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 26, 2022, 05:12:13 PM
Thanks WSW, maybe from the MOR transfer to Celtic? Not much but helps I guess
Might also change if we can cancel some loans (Quina) and offload some players through loan (Knocky, Kongolo?)
https://twitter.com/romaforever_it/status/1486402968027021315
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1486398382109306885
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 26, 2022, 06:42:49 PM
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1486398382109306885
Thats not Kongolo
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 26, 2022, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 26, 2022, 06:42:49 PM
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1486398382109306885
Thats not Kongolo
F**k me I thought something had happened and we got this geezer in as manager when I see this. Phew.
If Quina is going back to Watford as some have said then that frees up a squad place doesnt i it? If thats correct then anyone reckon we may replace him with someone?
Can't see Woy wanting a Quinn type player back.
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Dan burn on Newcastle's radar according to SSN. Whilst he's a proper solid CB it stinks of desperation as they are yet to sign their main target.
Kongolo out on loan a great shout. He needs game time and to get back to match fitness and that isn't happening at this stage of the season with so much on the line. See if he starts to show top form again on loan and if so keep him on next year. Never know , a long shot but he could still come good and was fantastic in the Prem for Huddersfield years ago
Quote from: jayffc on January 26, 2022, 07:56:50 PM
Kongolo out on loan a great shout. He needs game time and to get back to match fitness and that isn't happening at this stage of the season with so much on the line. See if he starts to show top form again on loan and if so keep him on next year. Never know , a long shot but he could still come good and was fantastic in the Prem for Huddersfield years ago
Agree, I have no doubts at all their is a premier league CB in there, just needs games and to get fir
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 26, 2022, 06:57:21 PM
Thats not Kongolo
LOL!
If Kongolo is fit enough to loan out that could be good news for next season. As long as he plays and stays injury free...
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 26, 2022, 07:26:56 PM
Can't see Woy wanting a Quinn type player back.
Nor can I, but I think Watford have a European type setup where the coach has little say on who comes in and goes where, so they may call him back and get him first team football elsewhere.
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Quote from: jayffc on January 26, 2022, 07:56:50 PM
Kongolo out on loan a great shout. He needs game time and to get back to match fitness and that isn't happening at this stage of the season with so much on the line. See if he starts to show top form again on loan and if so keep him on next year. Never know , a long shot but he could still come good and was fantastic in the Prem for Huddersfield years ago
Agree, I have no doubts at all their is a premier league CB in there, just needs games and to get fir
Totally agree WSW, was really expecting Kongolo to be our left sided CB by now but Ream is doing great and Kongolo obviously not doing enough to convince Silva to give him a place on the bench.... Nos the time to give him game time time elsewhere.
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on January 26, 2022, 07:46:24 PM
Dan burn on Newcastle's radar according to SSN.
You don't need radar to spot Dan Burn. You can see him from outer space with a decent pair of bins.
Diawara would be a big coup for a Champ side - bought for 20m from Napoli by Roma
Probably more one for if we were promoted
Seri's African Cup is over and should he is heading back to Fulham, giving us one more midfielder.
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If we were to make one purchase, I'd like to see a promising right back (Jed Spence looked terrific in clips of Forest game...). I looked at Kenny Tete's stats. Like most I rate Tete highly but he is injury prone.
He has played only 13 of our Championship matches this year and 18/38 last year. Moreover in the latter he only completed 90 minutes on 11 occasions. Odoi can cover but is probably not going to feature in the future. We have Bryan and the promising Larkeche at left back but, unless we're recalling Fossey from Bolton, we're thin in that position
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2022, 09:37:15 AM
Seri's African Cup is over and should he is heading back to Fulham, giving us one more midfielder.
That is good news, our midfield has been performing well but was looking a little stretched. Cairney, Seri Carvalho , Reed should be able to impress for the rest of the season.
https://twitter.com/sportspeteo/status/1486641891999424513
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If we were to make one purchase, I'd like to see a promising right back (Jed Spence looked terrific in clips of Forest game...). I looked at Kenny Tete's stats. Like most I rate Tete highly but he is injury prone.
He has played only 13 of our Championship matches this year and 18/38 last year. Moreover in the latter he only completed 90 minutes on 11 occasions. Odoi can cover but is probably not going to feature in the future. We have Bryan and the promising Larkeche at left back but, unless we're recalling Fossey from Bolton, we're thin in that position
If only we had Spence as a youngster.
Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 27, 2022, 11:17:06 AM
Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
I think a top, top class DM would transform the team. You could argue that all of those recent long rangers that we've conceded could to some extent have been prevented by a more mobile, imposing DM. As you say, it's not really anyone's position at the club bar Reed. I see Chalobah, Seri and Onomah all as more advanced midfielders.
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
I think a top, top class DM would transform the team. You could argue that all of those recent long rangers that we've conceded could to some extent have been prevented by a more mobile, imposing DM. As you say, it's not really anyone's position at the club bar Reed. I see Chalobah, Seri and Onomah all as more advanced midfielders.
I have no opinion on Diawara, but I think that having a top quality DM could only enhance the team. Reed is popular because he breaks his neck every game, chasing after everything like a whippet, but sometimes less is more. You didn't see Makelele do that, because his reading of the game meant it wasn't necessary to put in last ditch tackles constantly.
It was also one of the big failings of the 18/19 recruitment splurge, because Seri is not a DM, more of a Xavi/Pirlo type deep lying midfielder, and Anguissa loves to get forward but isn't a shielding midfielder.
It is clear that this position was identified as weakness by someone in recruitment, as you will remember we were chasing William Carvalho last summer, another typical DM.
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
I think a top, top class DM would transform the team. You could argue that all of those recent long rangers that we've conceded could to some extent have been prevented by a more mobile, imposing DM. As you say, it's not really anyone's position at the club bar Reed. I see Chalobah, Seri and Onomah all as more advanced midfielders.
I agree with this. Currently Reed is the only DM we have to be a consistent performer. I think this is Chalobah role, but I haven't seen enough of him to say whether he is good enough if we go up.
In all honesty, I think we also need an upgrade in the advanced midfield position. Personally I would release Seri at the end of the season - he is on massive wages and I think we need someone with a bit more physicality. Sadly, I have seen nothing to suggest that Onomah is a top Championship player, let alone someone good enough for the Premier League...
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
I think a top, top class DM would transform the team. You could argue that all of those recent long rangers that we've conceded could to some extent have been prevented by a more mobile, imposing DM. As you say, it's not really anyone's position at the club bar Reed. I see Chalobah, Seri and Onomah all as more advanced midfielders.
I have no opinion on Diawara, but I think that having a top quality DM could only enhance the team. Reed is popular because he breaks his neck every game, chasing after everything like a whippet, but sometimes less is more. You didn't see Makelele do that, because his reading of the game meant it wasn't necessary to put in last ditch tackles constantly.
It was also one of the big failings of the 18/19 recruitment splurge, because Seri is not a DM, more of a Xavi/Pirlo type deep lying midfielder, and Anguissa loves to get forward but isn't a shielding midfielder.
It is clear that this position was identified as weakness by someone in recruitment, as you will remember we were chasing William Carvalho last summer, another typical DM.
Yeah, we could have done with Harrison Reed in the 18/19 season
Italian news said yesterday "unsuccessful attempt by Fulham to get Diawara to England". Who knows what will be...
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
I think a top, top class DM would transform the team. You could argue that all of those recent long rangers that we've conceded could to some extent have been prevented by a more mobile, imposing DM. As you say, it's not really anyone's position at the club bar Reed. I see Chalobah, Seri and Onomah all as more advanced midfielders.
Agreed - Reed is very good off the ball but he's arguably the weakest from a creativity/distribution perspective, which I think we need a balance of both from a DM in Silva's system. It's probably why he uses Reed as a #8 and Seri as the #6, because he's got better passing range to move the ball around at the base of the midfield. A good DM who can do what Reed does and have some of Seri's distribution is what we need ideally, especially as next season if we're in the PL we'll need to be even more efficient with the ball than we currently are to create chances against better opposition, whilst retaining some steel in the middle of the park to keep a solid spine.
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Fulham's are confident they can get Diawara on loan this window with an obligation to buy if we go up, if we cannot get him on loan in this window, we will go back for him permanently in the summer. Struggled for from for Roma but was excellent at Napoli prior
This is v exciting if true.
I know nothing about him if I'm being honest but why do we need a DM?
Reed is so obviously better in that role rather than as an 8. We have seri, Chalobah, and to a less degree Onomah as back up.
I don't understand the signing really, surely a new winger or fullback is more pressing.
I think a top, top class DM would transform the team. You could argue that all of those recent long rangers that we've conceded could to some extent have been prevented by a more mobile, imposing DM. As you say, it's not really anyone's position at the club bar Reed. I see Chalobah, Seri and Onomah all as more advanced midfielders.
I agree with this. Currently Reed is the only DM we have to be a consistent performer. I think this is Chalobah role, but I haven't seen enough of him to say whether he is good enough if we go up.
In all honesty, I think we also need an upgrade in the advanced midfield position. Personally I would release Seri at the end of the season - he is on massive wages and I think we need someone with a bit more physicality. Sadly, I have seen nothing to suggest that Onomah is a top Championship player, let alone someone good enough for the Premier League...
Release Seri now that he's in fantastic form? No chance, one of the best players at the ACN atm by all reports and might just finally make the step up. IF we get promoted we can easily afford the wages. Move on Onomah, Midfield options of Reed, Seri, Chalobah, Diawara, potentially Anguissa, Cairney and Fabio would be a pretty decent pot to pick from for 3 slots. With how theyre playing this year they deserve a shot together in the Prem imo.
Players I'd ship out:
Fabi
Ream (not because I dont love him but it appears his time is up and he may return to MLS)
Mawson or Hector (one of)
Bryan (and replace him with someone like Aina)
Stephen Sess loan or sale
Onomah
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Quina sent back
Stansfield on loan (assuming we bring in another attacking player capable of covering up top if Mitro and Muniz are out)
I wont get alot of support for this I'm sure, but I personally dont think Reed is a very good DM. He doesnt read the game very well, and uses his running/determination to try and make up for positional errors. He's not a player that will be disciplined and just sit in front of the back 4 like a Makelele or Kante will, he feels the need to be constantly rushing around pressurising the ball and can get bypassed as a result. Seri, despite it not being his natural position is far more inclined to sit in that role and keep the play moving while offering a shield to the back 4.
Alot of the goals we've conceded recently have been from there being too much space outside the box, which is exactly the position Reed should be in. Thats why he's in the team. This hasnt been happening when Seri was in the deep role. Reed needs to be more disciplined when playing that deeper role. He also 100% cannot play in the other advanced midfield role and he offers NOTHING going forward. He might be pretty good in a system like Chelsea play with the double DM pivot alongside someone who will just sit in while he runs about.
I understand that fans generally like a blood and guts player who will run about alot, but for the way Silva wants us to play, we need more discipline from that position
Any idea of a possible fee for Diawara in this buy option?
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JayffC - You would ship out Fabio?
Quote from: Caedal on January 27, 2022, 12:20:53 PM
I wont get alot of support for this I'm sure, but I personally dont think Reed is a very good DM. He doesnt read the game very well, and uses his running/determination to try and make up for positional errors. He's not a player that will be disciplined and just sit in front of the back 4 like a Makelele or Kante will, he feels the need to be constantly rushing around pressurising the ball and can get bypassed as a result. Seri, despite it not being his natural position is far more inclined to sit in that role and keep the play moving while offering a shield to the back 4.
Alot of the goals we've conceded recently have been from there being too much space outside the box, which is exactly the position Reed should be in. Thats why he's in the team. This hasnt been happening when Seri was in the deep role. Reed needs to be more disciplined when playing that deeper role. He also 100% cannot play in the other advanced midfield role and he offers NOTHING going forward. He might be pretty good in a system like Chelsea play with the double DM pivot alongside someone who will just sit in while he runs about.
I understand that fans generally like a blood and guts player who will run about alot, but for the way Silva wants us to play, we need more discipline from that position
:plus one:
Been thinking this for a long time. In my opinion Reed needs to be carried by a better DM and better ball players. Only then will his energy and constant running be really effective. He offers too little in both directions for me.
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Quote from: Caedal on January 27, 2022, 12:20:53 PM
I wont get alot of support for this I'm sure, but I personally dont think Reed is a very good DM. He doesnt read the game very well, and uses his running/determination to try and make up for positional errors. He's not a player that will be disciplined and just sit in front of the back 4 like a Makelele or Kante will, he feels the need to be constantly rushing around pressurising the ball and can get bypassed as a result. Seri, despite it not being his natural position is far more inclined to sit in that role and keep the play moving while offering a shield to the back 4.
Alot of the goals we've conceded recently have been from there being too much space outside the box, which is exactly the position Reed should be in. Thats why he's in the team. This hasnt been happening when Seri was in the deep role. Reed needs to be more disciplined when playing that deeper role. He also 100% cannot play in the other advanced midfield role and he offers NOTHING going forward. He might be pretty good in a system like Chelsea play with the double DM pivot alongside someone who will just sit in while he runs about.
I understand that fans generally like a blood and guts player who will run about alot, but for the way Silva wants us to play, we need more discipline from that position
And if we're looking to next season Seri, who will be 31, will be blown away in the athleticism of the Premiership. Onomah hasn't kicked on, Chalobah has looked good from the little I've seen of him so maybe Silva is thinking Chalobah/Diawarra are to fill that role?
:plus one:
Been thinking this for a long time. In my opinion Reed needs to be carried by a better DM and better ball players. Only then will his energy and constant running be really effective. He offers too little in both directions for me.
Quina off to Swansea.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 27, 2022, 01:31:00 PM
Quina off to Swansea.
Hope so, waste of time and money to have him here if we aren't playing him.
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Quina off to Swansea.
Is the current rumour ...no loss whatsoever. Either that or back to Watford, either way gone..
Quote from: jayffc on January 27, 2022, 12:13:28 PM
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Players I'd ship out:
Fabi
Ream (not because I dont love him but it appears his time is up and he may return to MLS)
Mawson or Hector (one of)
Bryan (and replace him with someone like Aina)
Stephen Sess loan or sale
Onomah
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Quina sent back
Stansfield on loan (assuming we bring in another attacking player capable of covering up top if Mitro and Muniz are out)
I'm intrigued as to how these mass 'shippings out' can be arranged.
Do we swap their Nike Mercurials for concrete boots and take them for a one-way ride up the Thames?
It takes (at least) 3 to tango in transfers. It needs to satisfy two clubs and the player (plus agents). This equally applies to 'sending back' year long loans. You can't just get shot of them because you don't fancy them anymore.
To be honest I think that's a decent list and we could
probably manage it.... Fabri and Mawson are out of contract, Quina is just a loan, allow Ream a free transfer to the MLS and sell a few of the others.
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JayffC - You would ship out Fabio?
Fabri* sorry typo!
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Players I'd ship out:
Fabi
Ream (not because I dont love him but it appears his time is up and he may return to MLS)
Mawson or Hector (one of)
Bryan (and replace him with someone like Aina)
Stephen Sess loan or sale
Onomah
Knockaert
Cavaliero
Quina sent back
Stansfield on loan (assuming we bring in another attacking player capable of covering up top if Mitro and Muniz are out)
I'm intrigued as to how these mass 'shippings out' can be arranged.
Do we swap their Nike Mercurials for concrete boots and take them for a one-way ride up the Thames?
It takes (at least) 3 to tango in transfers. It needs to satisfy two clubs and the player (plus agents). This equally applies to 'sending back' year long loans. You can't just get shot of them because you don't fancy them anymore.
I was referring to the end of the season fwiw
Not sure why so sarcastic though... look at any other window and you'll see 9 players departing isn't that wild
especially when you factor in 1 will be the end of his loan... 2 will be out of contract - so thats only 6 out now.
That would leave a number of players all capable of getting a lower championship club at least- other than perhaps Sess, with Ream likely returning to America?
I can only assume the tone came from assuming I meant this January - but you'll see I was responding to a message from a guy saying he would get rid of Seri at the end of the season.
Even then - it wouldn't be impossible to manage the above even if it was Jan tbh...but for now there's little need to break things up.
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
Quote from: St. Andrews White on January 27, 2022, 01:01:26 PM
Any idea of a possible fee for Diawara in this buy option?
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I don't know I'm afraid. Roma signed him for over 20 million a few years ago I believe
Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
Fredericks appears to be 3rd choice right back at West Ham and getting very little game time. Would he come back to us on loan? Him & Robinson would probably be the fasted fullback pairing in the league.
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Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
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Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
He's fit again now, been on bench last couple of games and played last 20 mins v Man Unlast weekend. I'd take Fredericks back on loan definitely, but would he come and would W Ham let him join us? Prob not
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Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
He's fit again now, been on bench last couple of games and played last 20 mins v Man Unlast weekend. I'd take Fredericks back on loan definitely, but would he come and would W Ham let him join us? Prob not
Fredericks is reportedly on 70k a week. I'm a firm believer in never go back, very few players that return to old clubs do well
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Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
He's fit again now, been on bench last couple of games and played last 20 mins v Man Unlast weekend. I'd take Fredericks back on loan definitely, but would he come and would W Ham let him join us? Prob not
That response was about Cavaleiro not Fredericks FYI
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Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
He's fit again now, been on bench last couple of games and played last 20 mins v Man Unlast weekend. I'd take Fredericks back on loan definitely, but would he come and would W Ham let him join us? Prob not
That response was about Cavaleiro not Fredericks FYI
ok my mistake, sorry.
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Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably still get a couple of mil for Cav and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
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Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably get a couple of mil from him still and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
But owing to how average Kebano (and other players who are now key for us) looked under previous managers, you've got to give him a chance under Silva & Boa to show his worth as well. It's not that long ago that he won the Championship under a Portugese coach, looking very good in the progress.
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Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Cav still a good option off the bench imo
in the prem?!?
He's not even making it on the bench in the championship
Safe to say well be upgrading and he'll be gone end of the year imo. (im assuming you mean Ivan Cavaliero and not Fabio)
He's been injured since a fairly serious muscle injury months ago so you can't really judge it from that, he's not even fit yet
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably get a couple of mil from him still and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
But owing to how average Kebano (and other players who are now key for us) looked under previous managers, you've got to give him a chance under Silva & Boa to show his worth as well. It's not that long ago that he won the Championship under a Portugese coach, looking very good in the progress.
I'm already calling for us to buy a new starting LW - not sure how much Cav fancies being 3rd choice but I suspect it'd be better to get some of the money we might be able to for him and fund more pressing issues. One of em has to go and at this point I'd rather it was Cav. If for instance we could get 2 or 3 mil for him... That's how much Siriki is likely to go for as he's coming towards the end of his contract. It's a no brainer for me, Siriki 3 years younger and showing more promise and not coming off a bad injury
Quote from: jayffc on January 27, 2022, 03:46:27 PM
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably still get a couple of mil for Cav and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
No way on God's green earth is Siriki Dembele better than Kebano.
I'm all for an upgrade on any player in the squad - who wouldn't be? - but Siriki Dembele sure aint it.
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Quote from: jayffc on January 27, 2022, 03:46:27 PM
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably still get a couple of mil for Cav and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
No way on God's green earth is Siriki Dembele better than Kebano.
I'm all for an upgrade on any player in the squad - who wouldn't be? - but Siriki Dembele sure aint it.
What's going on in here , are people not reading?
I was saying if we were looking for a replacement to our backup winger (CAV - who I'd be happy to sell and move on from) then I'd rather take a punt on someone with decent upside potential still (like Siriki who has looked good in a crap team and scored one less this half a season in a crap team, than Cav in our last promotion season)
At no point was I suggesting we sell Kebano for him
Knockeart and Cavaleiro- Out
Lookman and Dembele - In
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Quote from: jayffc on January 27, 2022, 03:46:27 PM
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably still get a couple of mil for Cav and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
No way on God's green earth is Siriki Dembele better than Kebano.
I'm all for an upgrade on any player in the squad - who wouldn't be? - but Siriki Dembele sure aint it.
What's going on in here , are people not reading?
I was saying if we were looking for a replacement to our backup winger (CAV - who I'd be happy to sell and move on from) then I'd rather take a punt on someone with decent upside potential still (like siriki who has looked good in a crap team)
At no point was I suggesting we sell Kebano for him
My bad, you went from saying we should sign a new LW and dropping to Kebano to the bench, to signing Dembele as a backup winger - 2 different things.
I more or less agree with your whole shipping out list though FWIW.
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Knockeart and Cavaleiro- Out
Lookman and Dembele - In
Much as I'd take this trade, and would love Lookman to get Boa Mortes tutalidge.... he's growing into his potential at Liecester according to my LCFC friends so probably wont be available imo
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Quote from: jayffc on January 27, 2022, 03:46:27 PM
No, but I can judge him on how poor he was for ages before that when fully fit. Never really delivered consistantly what we were hoping from him, we haven't suffered remotely from not having him playing this year... So would much rather buy a top new LW (which I think is a priority) and move Kebano to the bench unless he can suprise us and step up to the prem finally. We could probably still get a couple of mil for Cav and I'd rather take a punt on someone like Siriki Dembele if we need to replace our backup winger.
No way on God's green earth is Siriki Dembele better than Kebano.
I'm all for an upgrade on any player in the squad - who wouldn't be? - but Siriki Dembele sure aint it.
What's going on in here , are people not reading?
I was saying if we were looking for a replacement to our backup winger (CAV - who I'd be happy to sell and move on from) then I'd rather take a punt on someone with decent upside potential still (like siriki who has looked good in a crap team)
At no point was I suggesting we sell Kebano for him
My bad, you went from saying we should sign a new LW and dropping to Kebano to the bench, to signing Dembele as a backup winger - 2 different things.
I more or less agree with your whole shipping out list though FWIW.
Fair play I can see now where the mixup was made.
For me its that list of outs (potentially including Anguissa if he's deemed surplus to requirements, although I wouldn't be unhappy if he stayed)
and use funds to buy in:
Top Priority:
Starting CB with quality akin to Anderson - this would be my big money buy
Starting LW in case Kebano can't make the step up again
Important:
Backup CB
high-quality LB/RB cover (Aina would be perfect imo)
high-quality RW to compete with Harry Wilson
Assuming we lose Anguissa- a strong ball winning CDM instead of a general CM
Bonus:
If by some miracle Areola was available I'd move heaven and earth and jump this to the top - otherwise Rodak probably deserves his shot now.
An exciting CAM in case Fab moves on or Cairney isn't quite at the races in the top flight again.
Looks like Calum Chambers has signed for villa
Quote from: Danitar on January 27, 2022, 07:53:06 PM
Looks like Calum Chambers has signed for villa
Can't blame him - Villa are clearly making efforts to establish themselves in the league. Shame though, as I'd have loved him back
We are one of many clubs looking at signing Jason Adigun from Charlton according to Football League World.
Quote from: Tabby on January 28, 2022, 09:19:06 AM
We are one of many clubs looking at signing Jason Adigun from Charlton according to Football League World.
I've never heard of him, but given that he appears to be 16, it is one of the reasons I don't complain too bitterly when we lose our brightest young talents to Liverpool, Man City etc. It's the food chain and will remain this way until we are on the same level as the big players. We got Stansfield from Exeter City, Woodrow from Luton, Roberts from Wimbledon, Burn from Darlington etc.
Looks like Andy Carroll having medical at WBA today according to Sky Sports Transfer Talk.
Quote from: brightster on January 28, 2022, 09:31:45 AM
Looks like Andy Carroll having medical at WBA today according to Sky Sports Transfer Talk.
That sounds like a good fit to me and one that could bring them right back into the promotion race.
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Looks like Andy Carroll having medical at WBA today according to Sky Sports Transfer Talk.
That sounds like a good fit to me and one that could bring them right back into the promotion race.
Yep, he's perfect for the way that they play- physical, loads of high balls into the area. Could be a very good signing for them.
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Looks like Andy Carroll having medical at WBA today according to Sky Sports Transfer Talk.
That sounds like a good fit to me and one that could bring them right back into the promotion race.
Yep, he's perfect for the way that they play- physical, loads of high balls into the area. Could be a very good signing for them.
Good target man but they will have to alter the way they play as they like to press high and he won't do that.
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Looks like Andy Carroll having medical at WBA today according to Sky Sports Transfer Talk.
That sounds like a good fit to me and one that could bring them right back into the promotion race.
Exactly what my thoughts were, as he proved against us, he still has a lot to offer, and just what they need.
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Quote from: Tabby on January 28, 2022, 09:19:06 AM
We are one of many clubs looking at signing Jason Adigun from Charlton according to Football League World.
I've never heard of him, but given that he appears to be 16, it is one of the reasons I don't complain too bitterly when we lose our brightest young talents to Liverpool, Man City etc. It's the food chain and will remain this way until we are on the same level as the big players. We got Stansfield from Exeter City, Woodrow from Luton, Roberts from Wimbledon, Burn from Darlington etc.
This is so true, no good moaning about our players being pinched when we go and do it further down. The frustration is transfer fees, if like Southampton we were getting big money for these departures, then it all works
Rooney has said that the administrators have ruled out a sale for Derby captain Lawrence, which puts an end to that rumour.
Journos still reporting that Liverpool would buy Fab this month if we're open to a sale... Which hopefully we're not!
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From today's pre-match press conference.
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1487061281878249478?s=20&t=B81Anu4nXVq44x4tnsY3Ig
Newcastle in for Dan Burn according to the Telegraph
Dan Burn from a free to 7 million good on him.
"Rooney has said that the administrators have ruled out a sale for Derby captain Lawrence, which puts an end to that rumour."
Rooney is also reported on the BBC website to have been approached for interview by Everton but to have turned the invite down as he wanted to stay and help sort out Derby's problems.
If the report is right he goes up hugely in my estimation and hope he succeeds in keeping Derby up.
Quote from: Oakeshott on January 28, 2022, 04:25:37 PM
"Rooney has said that the administrators have ruled out a sale for Derby captain Lawrence, which puts an end to that rumour."
Rooney is also reported on the BBC website to have been approached for interview by Everton but to have turned the invite down as he wanted to stay and help sort out Derby's problems.
If the report is right he goes up hugely in my estimation and hope he succeeds in keeping Derby up.
Correct.
You'd have thought he would have jumped at the chance to manage his boyhood club....Fair play to him.
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Quote from: Oakeshott on January 28, 2022, 04:25:37 PM
"Rooney has said that the administrators have ruled out a sale for Derby captain Lawrence, which puts an end to that rumour."
Rooney is also reported on the BBC website to have been approached for interview by Everton but to have turned the invite down as he wanted to stay and help sort out Derby's problems.
If the report is right he goes up hugely in my estimation and hope he succeeds in keeping Derby up.
Correct.
You'd have thought he would have jumped at the chance to manage his boyhood club....Fair play to him.
Amazed at that and find it hard to believe, thought he would have jumped at the Everton job unless of course he is waiting for Man.U. to come knocking.
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Quote from: Oakeshott on January 28, 2022, 04:25:37 PM
"Rooney has said that the administrators have ruled out a sale for Derby captain Lawrence, which puts an end to that rumour."
Rooney is also reported on the BBC website to have been approached for interview by Everton but to have turned the invite down as he wanted to stay and help sort out Derby's problems.
If the report is right he goes up hugely in my estimation and hope he succeeds in keeping Derby up.
Correct.
You'd have thought he would have jumped at the chance to manage his boyhood club....Fair play to him.
Amazed at that and find it hard to believe, thought he would have jumped at the Everton job unless of course he is waiting for Man.U. to come knocking.
I think from Rooneys perspective, it was for an interview and Everton seem to be approaching a lot to interview. If it was known he did that and didn't get the job, then could ruin this siege mentality that Derby seem to have - think it might be a different response if he was offered the job!
It also gives his derby players a real boost going into the next few games
https://hammyend.com/index.php/2022/01/fulham-lining-up-bowler-bid/
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Quote from: Oakeshott on January 28, 2022, 04:25:37 PM
"Rooney has said that the administrators have ruled out a sale for Derby captain Lawrence, which puts an end to that rumour."
Rooney is also reported on the BBC website to have been approached for interview by Everton but to have turned the invite down as he wanted to stay and help sort out Derby's problems.
If the report is right he goes up hugely in my estimation and hope he succeeds in keeping Derby up.
Correct.
You'd have thought he would have jumped at the chance to manage his boyhood club....Fair play to him.
Amazed at that and find it hard to believe, thought he would have jumped at the Everton job unless of course he is waiting for Man.U. to come knocking.
I think from Rooneys perspective, it was for an interview and Everton seem to be approaching a lot to interview. If it was known he did that and didn't get the job, then could ruin this siege mentality that Derby seem to have - think it might be a different response if he was offered the job!
He is probably thinking about his reputation and not wanting to be involved with a club that's in a right mess. Staying at Derby is a no lose situation for him. Keep them up and he's a hero, if they go down he will have done a heroic job in trying to keep them up and his stock is on the up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LX_11yz9x8&t=60s
bowler from his everton youth days
Fulham are working on numerous deals so far I believe up to 5, various wingers and CDM's. Fulham hoping to bring in 2 of those 5 by the deadline. It is dependent on Kongolo and Knockaert going out
Cheers wsw ,is knockheart close to leaving do you know
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 29, 2022, 12:33:02 PM
Fulham are working on numerous deals so far I believe up to 5, various wingers and CDM's. Fulham hoping to bring in 2 of those 5 by the deadline. It is dependent on Kongolo and Knockaert going out
Thanks as usual WSW. Has someone told Boy Blunder that the transfer window is open?
Silva clearly has one eye already on the premiership. It will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Great info as always Mr WSW. :54: :54: :54:
TK's hands are tied until Knockaert and Kongolo go, he can't bring anyone in FFP wise until they do. Been trying to shift them all window
Hull City in for Steven Sessegnon.
It is rather mean-spirited, I know, but I confess to being pleased that Traore is going on loan from Wolvs to Barca and Spurs' attempt to sign him has failed.
Will be a massive mistake if we don't bring a right back in before the window closes, even if it's only on loan.
To throw a name into the hat, a lad local to me - Ollie Tanner - has been on Spurs' radar for a while, but they failed to agree personal terms. He's a left winger for Lewes, taller than average but light on his feet and reads the game well, 19, and would be great competition for Kebano. Would love to see us go for him.
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 29, 2022, 08:45:55 PM
To throw a name into the hat, a lad local to me - Ollie Tanner - has been on Spurs' radar for a while, but they failed to agree personal terms. He's a left winger for Lewes, taller than average but light on his feet and reads the game well, 19, and would be great competition for Kebano. Would love to see us go for him.
Pretty sure he has Fulham fans in his family. Looked very good when I saw him play for Bromley against our under 18s a couple of years ago. Takes a terrific set piece.
Tanner staying at Lewes after failing to agree terms with a premier league team....Wonder what he was asking for?
Is it me or wouldn't it be important for us to bring in a CB of good quality? He clearly doesn't like Mawson.
Ream struggling atm & it's having an effect on Tosin.
If Kongolo is going surely we need one to come in. Can't believe Kongolo can't get game time over Ream tbh as much as I do like Ream
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2022, 09:11:10 PM
Tanner staying at Lewes after failing to agree terms with a premier league team....Wonder what he was asking for?
I would guess first-team football
Not being linked with anyone. Tomorrow's going to be boring.
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Not being linked with anyone. Tomorrow's going to be boring.
West Sussex White will sort us out don't worry 👍👍🤣⚽️
COYW
Keep seeing on Twitter that Carvalho is off to Liverpool this window, Silva says he's staying so really hope these no last minute changes.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 30, 2022, 03:01:11 PM
Keep seeing on Twitter that Carvalho is off to Liverpool this window, Silva says he's staying so really hope these no last minute changes.
There was a report in one of the rags that Liverpool wanted to sign him this window and people don't care about what we have to say about it.
This guy is unfortunately spot on normally.
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1487809889070198790
Supposedly bud accepted for Carvahlo fee of my mate saying it's over twitter
Hopefully someone two foots him in training before he goes - why the hell would we leave it until the 30th to talk about selling him, that's just moronic because we're not getting anyone half as good in on short notice and it genuinely jeopordises winning the league which is worth more than selling him for £5m
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 30, 2022, 03:30:54 PM
This guy is unfortunately spot on normally.
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1487809889070198790
Sick of Livarpool
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 30, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 30, 2022, 03:30:54 PM
This guy is unfortunately spot on normally.
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1487809889070198790
Sick of Livarpool
Can't disagree with that...I assume it's going to be a loan back until end of season otherwise it would make Marco look a little stupid.
For me the whole thing is corrupt now. I know even when I was a kid United could buy who they wanted but at every level - from knicking youngsters that poorer clubs have developed or allowing 'commercial income to be added to other revenues for FFP is about the rich staying rich. Sooner they create this SuperLeague the better - put it all in a rocket & fire it to Mars
But we do it to clubs smaller than us. I don't understand why people seemingly wilfully ignore this.
Quote from: JimOG on January 30, 2022, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 30, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 30, 2022, 03:30:54 PM
This guy is unfortunately spot on normally.
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1487809889070198790
Sick of Livarpool
Can't disagree with that...I assume it's going to be a loan back until end of season otherwise it would make Marco look a little stupid.
For me the whole thing is corrupt now. I know even when I was a kid United could buy who they wanted but at every level - from knicking youngsters that poorer clubs have developed or allowing 'commercial income to be added to other revenues for FFP is about the rich staying rich. Sooner they create this SuperLeague the better - put it all in a rocket & fire it to Mars
Screw Liverpool . He could be one for the future for us.
If Fab goes then there better be a loan back involved if not then the money must be used to bring in a replacement and a decent right back,
Big 30 hours or so ahead for Fulham Football Club, we must not be weakened at a time when clubs like Bournemouth are looking to strengthen.
Scum club Liverpool. First with their snouts in the trough when money is mentioned. If a fiver was found on the Isle of Mull they'd claim it. Since Hicks and Gillette took over and now Fenway they have had no class at all. Mr. Khan Snr may not be the most astute Club owner (son DoF) but he has always shown class. If he continues to update the Stadium it will be something to be even more proud of than we already are. We are very lucky.
If Livershite are in talks without FFC permission then they are in breach of the rules as he can only speak to overseas clubs at this time
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 03:53:09 PM
But we do it to clubs smaller than us. I don't understand why people seemingly wilfully ignore this.
We don't tap journos up to write endless stories about why players should join us and try and unsettle them via the media. Nobody here is ignoring the fact we've taken players from smaller clubs but we don't get the s*n and other journos to do our job for us and try to force a transfer through
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 03:53:09 PM
But we do it to clubs smaller than us. I don't understand why people seemingly wilfully ignore this.
It's not right. Bit it doesn't make Liverpool doing it right either!!
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 03:53:09 PM
But we do it to clubs smaller than us. I don't understand why people seemingly wilfully ignore this.
I'm certainly not ignoring this - it's the whole system, of which we are a part- that is corrupt. I'm sure early fans of Stansfield & Elliot would point the finger at us. And Chelsea's 'puppy farm' is another example....
I've said it before, it's the rules that need changing. Nobody is doing anything wrong here, as frustrating as it is.
It's being widely reported that Liverpool are in advanced talks with the club now, so it's nothing to do with anybody being tapped up, it's clubs working within the rules, no matter how bitter a pill it is to swallow.
Wouldn't surprise me if a deals completed this window if a loan back for 18months was included, would suit all parties involved
Quote from: Worcesterwhite on January 30, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if a deals completes a deal this window if a loan back for 18months was included, would suit all parties involved
This is the very best we can hope for. We get him until the end of the season and a whole year in the prem. He gets guaranteed first team football and Liverpool can see what he's like in a premier league team. If we manage to stay up then we get the premier league money to get a replacement. The lad never wanted to stay which is a real shame but we need to be clever in what we do now. Leaves a big hole if we can't have him next season.
The worse part of this is that we won't actually see a penny, the money will be taken off the £12 million we owe them for Wilson.
Fab has asked to sign permanently this window. Liverpool have offered him around 100k a week, so will get that immediately if he joins this window. Fulham are trying to get him back on loan, but I don't know yet, Fulham are working on alternatives as we speak too. The money we pay whether we see it or not due to the Wilson deal will mean that we can bring more in as it will ease FFP concerns. Will update if I get it
£100k a week? Surely not.
Didn't our manager state on Friday he wasn't going anywhere?
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 05:01:15 PM
Fab has asked to sign permanently this window. Liverpool have offered him around 100k a week, so will get that immediately if he joins this window. Fulham are trying to get him back on loan, but I don't know yet, Fulham are working on alternatives as we speak too. The money we pay whether we see it or not due to the Wilson deal will mean that we can bring more in as it will ease FFP concerns. Will update if I get it
As always. Thanks for the info WSW. 100K per week is madness and it stinks of being tapped up to me.
100 Grand? F*** me he's good but he's not THAT good
Can you blame him for going for that? Even if he gets a bad injury he's set for life on that money. H thing that's pissed me off is he has asked to go the day before deadline day
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 05:31:29 PM
Can you blame him for going for that? Even if he gets a bad injury he's set for life on that money. H thing that's pissed me off is he has asked to go the day before deadline day
I don't blame him I blame Liverpool for their gangster transfer tactics
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 05:31:29 PM
Can you blame him for going for that? Even if he gets a bad injury he's set for life on that money. H thing that's pissed me off is he has asked to go the day before deadline day
I don't blame him I blame Liverpool for their gangster transfer tactics
They've 100% tapped him up
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Can you blame him for going for that? Even if he gets a bad injury he's set for life on that money. H thing that's pissed me off is he has asked to go the day before deadline day
I don't blame him I blame Liverpool for their gangster transfer tactics
They've 100% tapped him up
Then we have to get the authorities to proper throw the book at Liverpool. For what good it may do
This would genuinely make me angry. F*$k Liverpool.
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 05:31:29 PM
Can you blame him for going for that? Even if he gets a bad injury he's set for life on that money. H thing that's pissed me off is he has asked to go the day before deadline day
I don't blame him I blame Liverpool for their gangster transfer tactics
They've 100% tapped him up
Then we have to get the authorities to proper throw the book at Liverpool. For what good it may do
Everyone is at it, we've done it with players lower down the pyramid too. The authorities won't do anything
Tapping up died the day that agents became a thing.
Sounds like the deal is done for Fabio, with us having him on loan for the rest of the season.
I'd rather we just got rid and spent the money on a mid- to long-term replacement than developed big club's talents. We don't need to become the Vitesse of English football.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 30, 2022, 05:43:33 PM
Sounds like the deal is done for Fabio, with us having him on loan for the rest of the season.
I did see a £12m figure being mentioned.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 30, 2022, 05:43:33 PM
Sounds like the deal is done for Fabio, with us having him on loan for the rest of the season.
Bloody depressing tbh. We'll have "our" player loaned back who is no longer invested in our team. .
It is what it is - let's keep him on loan, spend the £5m on that American right back to sure up things and get promoted.
I do think we need 1 or 2 players and if selling Cav now is the answer (let's face it he is not going to stay if we deny him £100K a week now) that let's do it!
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2022, 05:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 30, 2022, 05:43:33 PM
Sounds like the deal is done for Fabio, with us having him on loan for the rest of the season.
Bloody depressing tbh. We'll have "our" player loaned back who is no longer invested in our team. .
Agree. He'll be out on the pitch and if things go pete tong he'll be thinking no problem, I'll be off to Liverpool soon.
I think the 12 mill fee is correct, although we won't see all of it, a certain % is paying off the Wilson fee which gives us more FFP wriggle room. Wouldn't expect us to get much more than 5 million in cash
He was going to leave in the summer for free so now if we got £12m and him playing for us for the rest of the season, then it doesn't sound that bad.
Worrying we don't have a creative, technical no.10 now
Unfortunately money talks, if someone gets offered the stupid wage increase on offer for doing the same job who wouldn't take it??
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 30, 2022, 05:21:12 PM
£100k a week? Surely not.
Its nonsense.....Liverpool wouldn't disclose what they going to pay him....
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Quote from: Jamie88 on January 30, 2022, 05:43:33 PM
Sounds like the deal is done for Fabio, with us having him on loan for the rest of the season.
Bloody depressing tbh. We'll have "our" player loaned back who is no longer invested in our team. .
To be honest it's probably the best outcome barring him staying and signing a new deal. If he helps us get promoted we still win to a degree. He was never going to stay, the moment he turned down the last contract offer
Manager says he's not going anywhere. 🤔
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:27:54 PM
Manager says he's not going anywhere. 🤔
Well, he isn't technically, at least not until the summer..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:27:54 PM
Manager says he's not going anywhere. 🤔
He's hardly going to say come and get him Liverpool you can have him
thing that's pissed me off is he has asked to go the day before deadline day
Exactly right
We don't know this.
As I have just said on another thread, there is literally nobody to blame here.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 07:00:04 PM
We don't know this.
As I have just said on another thread, there is literally nobody to blame here.
Liverpool have been making noises throughout the window so they do get some blame
Never ever being offered £100k a week. Not even close but a Liverpool friend of mine that's ITK is convinced it's a done deal with a loan back
I just hope he's wrong
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Quote from: LVBPT on January 30, 2022, 07:02:51 PM
Never ever being offered £100k a week. Not even close but a Liverpool friend of mine is convinced it's a done deal with a loan back
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How much mate?
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 06:02:03 PM
I think the 12 mill fee is correct, although we won't see all of it, a certain % is paying off the Wilson fee which gives us more FFP wriggle room. Wouldn't expect us to get much more than 5 million in cash
And what about the pony tail boy fee the thieves owe us?
If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
£100,000 per week at age 19 and we thought Haynes had hit the big time on £100 per week.
It really is ridiculous and a national wage cap just has to be agreed.
Quote from: filham on January 30, 2022, 07:04:51 PM
£100,000 per week at age 19 and we thought Haynes had hit the big time on £100 per week.
It really is ridiculous and a national wage cap just has to be agreed.
It's just stupid money that cure diseases and help underprivileged townships... but given to a 19 year old for kicking a ball.
Quote from: Moltobueno on January 30, 2022, 06:04:20 PM
He was going to leave in the summer for free so now if we got £12m and him playing for us for the rest of the season, then it doesn't sound that bad.
Worrying we don't have a creative, technical no.10 now
Yes and we have plenty of time and £12m to find a replacement.
Quote from: filham on January 30, 2022, 07:04:51 PM
£100,000 per week at age 19 and we thought Haynes had hit the big time on £100 per week.
It really is ridiculous and a national wage cap just has to be agreed.
No wonder Liverpool cant afford a whole squad, but if he is on 100K you can guarantee Elliott will want it and the other youngsters breaking into there team
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on January 30, 2022, 07:04:08 PM
If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Really hope we've got someone lined up to get in. Strong chance his performances fall off a cliff if this gets confirmed - we can't afford that.
Maybe go in for Tom Lawrence?
Unfortunately, for me, this is the difference between a club staying in the Prem and staying as a yo yo club. If we can keep those young up and comers for at least a season in the Prem, and they prove they can cut it and warrant a big move elsewhere, fine, but not being able to hold on to key talent for another season at least, just shows where we are as a club unfortunately. Be a real shame if this window cements the fact our squad will at the least, be worse off next season, at the worst, for this season as well as I struggle to see any players of Fabio's ilk being available for any reasonable price.
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Quote from: filham on January 30, 2022, 07:04:51 PM
£100,000 per week at age 19 and we thought Haynes had hit the big time on £100 per week.
It really is ridiculous and a national wage cap just has to be agreed.
It's just stupid money that cure diseases and help underprivileged townships... but given to a 19 year old for kicking a ball.
But we live in a system that pays huge amounts of money for bureaucracy and the running of a huge democratic system that pays people for having many different jobs for doing nothing while leaving people in need. Before getting angry about sportsman let's get angry about the paid waste in the system. This goes for every democracy in the World.
I know it's all rumours at the moment but have I followed all this social media right .... £5 million cash plus approx £7 million we owe on Wilson so a total of approx £12 million and a loan back for the rest of the season????
Wouldn't be the worst deal in what is a bad situation.
Would love us to work one of Neco Williams (rb), Nat Phillips (cb) or Minamino (acm) into the equation
Liverpool just spent 37.5 million on winger.
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 30, 2022, 07:45:38 PM
I know it's all rumours at the moment but have I followed all this social media right .... £5 million cash plus approx £7 million we owe on Wilson so a total of approx £12 million and a loan back for the rest of the season????
Wouldn't be the worst deal in what is a bad situation.
Would love us to work one of Neco Williams (rb), Nat Phillips (cb) or Minamino (acm) into the equation
I agree - if it's true, 12m and a loan is a great deal for a player whose contract expires in 6 months.
I don't understand the people that say he should go now because his heart won't be at Fulham for the rest of season. I'm sure he will want to do well and get promoted with us before he goes. You can't really blame a young guy for wanting to join one of the best teams in the world.
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Why not give Stansfield some game time in that position
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 06:02:03 PM
I think the 12 mill fee is correct, although we won't see all of it, a certain % is paying off the Wilson fee which gives us more FFP wriggle room. Wouldn't expect us to get much more than 5 million in cash
And what about the pony tail boy fee the thieves owe us?
They took that off the initial Wilson price
Any idea who we might bring in to replace him if we don't get him back on loan? Wouldn't mind Todd Cantwell from Norwich
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Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 30, 2022, 04:26:41 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me if a deals completes a deal this window if a loan back for 18months was included, would suit all parties involved
This is the very best we can hope for. We get him until the end of the season and a whole year in the prem. He gets guaranteed first team football and Liverpool can see what he's like in a premier league team. If we manage to stay up then we get the premier league money to get a replacement. The lad never wanted to stay which is a real shame but we need to be clever in what we do now. Leaves a big hole if we can't have him next season.
I think loans for longer than 12months were banned from thevstart of this season, so most likely a 6m loan.
Quote from: filham on January 30, 2022, 07:04:51 PM
£100,000 per week at age 19 and we thought Haynes had hit the big time on £100 per week.
It really is ridiculous and a national wage cap just has to be agreed.
National wage cap would be a terrible idea. It would force the best and brightest to foreign leagues.
If would have to be a global agreement otherwise it wouldn't work for English football
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 30, 2022, 07:25:40 PM
Unfortunately, for me, this is the difference between a club staying in the Prem and staying as a yo yo club. If we can keep those young up and comers for at least a season in the Prem, and they prove they can cut it and warrant a big move elsewhere, fine, but not being able to hold on to key talent for another season at least, just shows where we are as a club unfortunately. Be a real shame if this window cements the fact our squad will at the least, be worse off next season, at the worst, for this season as well as I struggle to see any players of Fabio's ilk being available for any reasonable price.
💯 agree with this. Until we can cement ourselves as a stable (as stable as one can possibly be) Prem club then it'll be tough to keep hold of talent. We've always had to feed the bigger fish but it feels more acute over recent seasons with young talent. It's a symptom of either desperately fighting for promotion in the champs or desperately fighting for survival in the Prem - it breeds a short termism mentality around the whole club - staff, managers, players and fans.
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If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 05:42:54 PM
Tapping up died the day that agents became a thing.
+1. The PFA missed a trick and should have represented their members in transfer/contract negotiations long, long ago.
I don't care who you are but if you offered a position in a company that is potential better than yours with a potential to improve and reach greater heights in your profession, you would not turn it down.
I've enjoyed watching him playing for us, he has a talent, which I will look forward to seeing in the Champions League.
We've done the same to obtain players from lower league teams, Get over it and move on.
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 06:02:03 PM
I think the 12 mill fee is correct, although we won't see all of it, a certain % is paying off the Wilson fee which gives us more FFP wriggle room. Wouldn't expect us to get much more than 5 million in cash
And what about the pony tail boy fee the thieves owe us?
They took that off the initial Wilson price
Thanks for the info WSW
If that's the case then all well and good, but we will never ever get better if we carry on like this!
Surely we should at least have the 12kand a sell on % in the deal?
In my view we should have a minimum of a 25% sell on, in the deal!
We really do seem like naive mugs in our dealings!?
Quote from: SG on January 30, 2022, 08:49:27 PM
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Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on January 30, 2022, 07:04:08 PM
If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Agree about a 6 month loan, but I'd take an 18 month loan, with the option to end early if he's not performing.
Seems like a no-brainier to me: he'd be nowhere near the Liverpool squad for now and it'd get him a starting spot in the Prem (most likely) with us for a season to prove himself, whilst we get some money now and to keep a player who fits in our squad.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 30, 2022, 09:17:15 PM
I don't care who you are but if you offered a position in a company that is potential better than yours with a potential to improve and reach greater heights in your profession, you would not turn it down.
I've enjoyed watching him playing for us, he has a talent, which I will look forward to seeing in the Champions League.
We've done the same to obtain players from lower league teams, Get over it and move on.
Agree entirely but there's a way to move jobs with good grace and there's a way to piss off your current employer and burn your bridges. He's chosen the latter particularly by pushing this one day before the deadline leaving our club with few options at the last minute
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Quote from: f321ffc on January 30, 2022, 07:18:04 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on January 30, 2022, 07:04:08 PM
If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Are you saying promotion is already guaranteed ?
Rather foolish if you are.
Quote from: SG on January 30, 2022, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 30, 2022, 09:17:15 PM
I don't care who you are but if you offered a position in a company that is potential better than yours with a potential to improve and reach greater heights in your profession, you would not turn it down.
I've enjoyed watching him playing for us, he has a talent, which I will look forward to seeing in the Champions League.
We've done the same to obtain players from lower league teams, Get over it and move on.
Agree entirely but there's a way to move jobs with good grace and there's a way to piss off your current employer and burn your bridges. He's chosen the latter particularly by pushing this one day before the deadline leaving our club with few options at the last minute
But do we know that he has pushed the deal through, or is it just paper talk or hearsay?
If all this talk of a Liverpool offer is true hopefully some of the other big clubs will come in with a bigger and better offer giving us more money to invest in this window but with one day left hopefully we have planned targets lined up.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 30, 2022, 09:17:15 PM
I don't care who you are but if you offered a position in a company that is potential better than yours with a potential to improve and reach greater heights in your profession, you would not turn it down.
As a young footballer with limited first-team experience, you might.
As a young footballer, you might look at the many talented youngsters who have moved to a 'big' Club early in their careers and have not continued to develop as well as they had been doing at their 'smaller' clubs - where the opportunities to play were greater and the weight of expectation less.
We have our own recent, well-documented examples in Patrick Roberts and Ryan Sessegnon - and there have been other lesser lights such as Buffonge and Adeniran (Who indeed?). The latter pair were each progressing well in our Academy but ditched us for Manchester United and Everton respectively and, to the best of my knowledge, went on to make little impact in their new surroundings.
So the saga is dragging on. TK is playing hardball with Liverpool, Liverpool don't want it to go to the summer and want it resolved now so as to beat the competition, however TK is upping the demands to reflect this. I don't know any further details, but unless Liverpool give TK and FFC what they want the deal won't happen
Cheers, WSW. Good to know TK has some balls.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 10:57:08 PM
So the saga is dragging on. TK is playing hardball with Liverpool, Liverpool don't want it to go to the summer and want it resolved now so as to beat the competition, however TK is upping the demands to reflect this. I don't know any further details, but unless Liverpool give TK and FFC what they want the deal won't happen
Haha 😄
I was just going to post the same, think we must have read the same tweet,
Interesting day ahead now, do Liverpool up the ante, does somebody else come in or does it go to tribunal at the end of the season.
Fabio will see how much Liverpool really want him.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 10:57:08 PM
So the saga is dragging on. TK is playing hardball with Liverpool, Liverpool don't want it to go to the summer and want it resolved now so as to beat the competition, however TK is upping the demands to reflect this. I don't know any further details, but unless Liverpool give TK and FFC what they want the deal won't happen
I wonder what extra TK is demanding? More money or extended loan period. Either way we need to get a good deal out of this. Still such a shame his contract was not extended a year or so ago!
If we can get £12m, a sell in clause and a 6 month loan back I think we bite their hand off at this point
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 10:57:08 PM
So the saga is dragging on. TK is playing hardball with Liverpool, Liverpool don't want it to go to the summer and want it resolved now so as to beat the competition, however TK is upping the demands to reflect this. I don't know any further details, but unless Liverpool give TK and FFC what they want the deal won't happen
I wonder what extra TK is demanding? More money or extended loan period. Either way we need to get a good deal out of this. Still such a shame his contract was not extended a year or so ago!
As far as I know, it wasn't allowed.
I think the club/Tony felt cheated by the tribunal/Liverpool on the Harvey Elliott transfer. Sorry Liverpool it's payback time. Shits will always be shits but they don't always win. Well done Tony if all this is true, not doubting your info. WSW. Thanks as always for the time you put in on our behalf.
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Quote from: Jamie88 on January 30, 2022, 05:43:33 PM
Sounds like the deal is done for Fabio, with us having him on loan for the rest of the season.
I did see a £12m figure being mentioned.
Fabrizio reporting it's 7M and end of season loan back
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1487933203650428934
Quote from: Riversider on January 30, 2022, 11:50:35 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 30, 2022, 10:57:08 PM
So the saga is dragging on. TK is playing hardball with Liverpool, Liverpool don't want it to go to the summer and want it resolved now so as to beat the competition, however TK is upping the demands to reflect this. I don't know any further details, but unless Liverpool give TK and FFC what they want the deal won't happen
Haha 😄
I was just going to post the same, think we must have read the same tweet,
Interesting day ahead now, do Liverpool up the ante, does somebody else come in or does it go to tribunal at the end of the season.
Personally, I think he still goes, Liverpool do t want to wait until the summer so I think they may just give us what we want
Quote from: Cookie6262 on January 30, 2022, 07:45:38 PM
I know it's all rumours at the moment but have I followed all this social media right .... £5 million cash plus approx £7 million we owe on Wilson so a total of approx £12 million and a loan back for the rest of the season????
Wouldn't be the worst deal in what is a bad situation.
Would love us to work one of Neco Williams (rb), Nat Phillips (cb) or Minamino (acm) into the equation
Yes those numbers make sense and I agree, in a bad situation it's the best we can hope for. We need a sell on clause inserted as well. Out of the three Liverpool players you mention, only Neco Williams is realistic as prem clubs will take the other two in my opinion. I'd take Williams for sure as we need a RB badly at present
Not keen on the loan back idea, just think head and heart will be elsewhere, feel its different with loan of players already at their parent club and not playing, generally they want to play and put a decent shift in (I know, I know RLC before someone mentions him!) but with Fab knowing you're now another teams player, not wanting to get injured etc personally I'd take the chance and refuse the loan back, however I don't know fab and this may do him a disservice.
Quote from: Cumbrian White on January 31, 2022, 07:55:56 AM
Not keen on the loan back idea, just think head and heart will be elsewhere, feel its different with loan of players already at their parent club and not playing, generally they want to play and put a decent shift in (I know, I know RLC before someone mentions him!) but with Fab knowing you're now another teams player, not wanting to get injured etc personally I'd take the chance and refuse the loan back, however I don't know fab and this may do him a disservice.
Agree....
If he wants to go,then away with him...We'll get by without him.
Bournemouth agreed fee £3.5m with Cardiff for Keifer Moore. Decent signing not sure where that leaves Solanke? Seems a very reasonable price unless i heard it wrong. Perhaps as it's still the January sales?
Bournemouth doing good business with Moore and Cantwell while we lose one of our best attackers with no one rumoured to be on their way.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 31, 2022, 08:30:28 AM
Bournemouth doing good business with Moore and Cantwell while we lose one of our best attackers with no one rumoured to be on their way.
It is rumoured that we won't lose one of our best attackers... or do we only believe in part of the rumours?
Is cantwell confirmed to Bournemouth?
i wouldnt want him back on loan head will be gone.
get bowler in instead
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Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 31, 2022, 08:30:28 AM
Bournemouth doing good business with Moore and Cantwell while we lose one of our best attackers with no one rumoured to be on their way.
It is rumoured that we won't lose one of our best attackers... or do we only believe in part of the rumours?
I believe even if he's loaned back to us, we'll see a drop off so yes we lose one of our best attackers. Hope I'm proved wrong.
Quote from: fulhamross on January 31, 2022, 09:26:12 AM
i wouldnt want him back on loan head will be gone.
get bowler in instead
Replace an attacking midfielder with a winger who's scored twice all season?????
When you go on the football pitch you want to do well, to win and to impress. If Fab is loaned back, Liverpool will be watching him, he will want to make our fans happy and he will want to impress Liverpool. He will have his massive contract and if he got injured will still get the money, so injury will be less of a worry than if he had not already done the deal. It's the best solution given he will not sign. It's no difference to any other person offered at least 3 or 4 times as much money at a far more successful company, of course we would all go for it.
Cantwell as a replacement for Carvalho feels like a no-brainier. Shocking if we're not in for him.
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Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on January 30, 2022, 07:04:08 PM
If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Are you saying promotion is already guaranteed ?
Rather foolish if you are.
I am saying that whether he stays or goes will not be the deciding factor as to whether we go up. I don't think that is being foolish at all. We won games when he was injured and will win games when he has gone. He's good but he's not that good yet
Quote from: StuinSalop on January 31, 2022, 09:36:00 AM
When you go on the football pitch you want to do well, to win and to impress. If Fab is loaned back, Liverpool will be watching him, he will want to make our fans happy and he will want to impress Liverpool. He will have his massive contract and if he got injured will still get the money, so injury will be less of a worry than if he had not already done the deal. It's the best solution given he will not sign. It's no difference to any other person offered at least 3 or 4 times as much money at a far more successful company, of course we would all go for it.
Well said Sir.
I highly doubt Fab will down tools if he leaves us. This is the best opportunity for him to play his way into contention of the Liverpool 11. He would have seen Elliot get game-time there, and if he helps us get promoted, he will probably get time there next season. Especially when Minamino is getting game-time when the front 3 are missing.
It's gutting we are losing him, but loan back is something we need - we don't have another dynamic 10 like him in the squad.
Part of me thinks, we were hoping Quina would be the replacement but he hasn't kicked on or delivered sadly.
Long time until 6am for me. Will it be worth it? I suppose it all depends on getting a deal done for Carvalho. Hope WSW gets some good info. to keep us all interested. Best of luck to TK, please listen to Marco young man.
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 31, 2022, 09:36:49 AM
Cantwell as a replacement for Carvalho feels like a no-brainier. Shocking if we're not in for him.
Norwich fans say he is incredibly brittle, and happy for him to go. Don't think he is what we need at all.
Bournemouth also reportedly agreed a fee for Dembele at Posh. I get that he might not be up for the PL, but based on what I've seen of him if he goes there for relatively little money it will be incredibly frustrating that we didn't get involved. Would help with promotion and even if he's not up to the PL, he's the kind of player who would be incredibly useful if we were relegated again, and you could always sell back to the Championship for a few mill.
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Bournemouth also reportedly agreed a fee for Dembele at Posh. I get that he might not be up for the PL, but based on what I've seen of him if he goes there for relatively little money it will be incredibly frustrating that we didn't get involved. Would help with promotion and even if he's not up to the PL, he's the kind of player who would be incredibly useful if we were relegated again, and you could always sell back to the Championship for a few mill.
If there is one thing we don't need it is more attacking players that would be useful if we were relegated to the championship but not good enough for the PL. Our squad is brimming with them.
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Bournemouth also reportedly agreed a fee for Dembele at Posh. I get that he might not be up for the PL, but based on what I've seen of him if he goes there for relatively little money it will be incredibly frustrating that we didn't get involved. Would help with promotion and even if he's not up to the PL, he's the kind of player who would be incredibly useful if we were relegated again, and you could always sell back to the Championship for a few mill.
If there is one thing we don't need it is more attacking players that would be useful if we were relegated to the championship but not good enough for the PL. Our squad is brimming with them.
Bingo. That's what got us to the FFP limit in the first place. Live, learn, move on.
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Bournemouth doing good business with Moore and Cantwell while we lose one of our best attackers with no one rumoured to be on their way.
It is rumoured that we won't lose one of our best attackers... or do we only believe in part of the rumours?
I believe even if he's loaned back to us, we'll see a drop off so yes we lose one of our best attackers. Hope I'm proved wrong.
Why would we see a drop off? If anything, he finally can focus only on playing. Should do him good only.
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If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Are you saying promotion is already guaranteed ?
Rather foolish if you are.
I am saying that whether he stays or goes will not be the deciding factor as to whether we go up. I don't think that is being foolish at all. We won games when he was injured and will win games when he has gone. He's good but he's not that good yet
I agree, we won games when his form dipped and he found himself on the bench and we are perfectly capable of doing so again. That's not to suggest he isn't a huge asset, but I don't think he and he alone is the key to promotion. We are most definitely not a one man squad.
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If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Are you saying promotion is already guaranteed ?
Rather foolish if you are.
I am saying that whether he stays or goes will not be the deciding factor as to whether we go up. I don't think that is being foolish at all. We won games when he was injured and will win games when he has gone. He's good but he's not that good yet
I agree, we won games when his form dipped and he found himself on the bench and we are perfectly capable of doing so again. That's not to suggest he isn't a huge asset, but I don't think he and he alone is the key to promotion. We are most definitely not a one man squad.
I do wonder if Wilson may not be better suited to his role so he does not get closed down so often, but I have a sneaky feeling Marco is changing Stansfield from an out and out striker to the role fab currently has.
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If we get 12 million for Fab, in cash, plus the loan back, it's good business considering he's a goner.
Don't want a loan back if he's going then go now , I wont cheer a player that doesn't want to be at Fulham .
Agree entirely. Doesn't want to be at Fulham then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. It won't cost us promotion whether he stays or goes. It will cost us millions by him not signing a contract. FFC is bigger than any 19 year old however good he may be.
Are you saying promotion is already guaranteed ?
Rather foolish if you are.
I am saying that whether he stays or goes will not be the deciding factor as to whether we go up. I don't think that is being foolish at all. We won games when he was injured and will win games when he has gone. He's good but he's not that good yet
I agree, we won games when his form dipped and he found himself on the bench and we are perfectly capable of doing so again. That's not to suggest he isn't a huge asset, but I don't think he and he alone is the key to promotion. We are most definitely not a one man squad.
I do wonder if Wilson may not be better suited to his role so he does not get closed down so often, but I have a sneaky feeling Marco is changing Stansfield from an out and out striker to the role fab currently has.
Stansfield's played as a number ten - and very well - in most of the under 23 games he has featured in this season.
If Carvalho is trying to force an immediate move with no loan back... let him rot.
Sounds like Tony Khan is playing hardball.
There really is no point in selling the youngster now for buttons then loaning him back for 6 months (with a loan fee) AND paying his inflated salary.
Cheaper to keep him on a fiver a week and let him go in the summer for a bit of compo. In the meantime he'll be playing his socks off to get a contract at Liverpool or Barcelona.
No wonder reports suggest the chances of a Liverpool deal are dwindling....
Matt Targett gone to Newcastle.
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Matt Targett gone to Newcastle.
It's a left back carousel. Newcastle LB to go to Everton?
Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
Newcastle have done well to get Targett, not a great player but tried and trusted at PL level. Same as Dan Burn.
Don't think they will get relegated.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on January 31, 2022, 12:14:48 PM
Sounds like Tony Khan is playing hardball.
There really is no point in selling the youngster now for buttons then loaning him back for 6 months (with a loan fee) AND paying his inflated salary.
Cheaper to keep him on a fiver a week and let him go in the summer for a bit of compo. In the meantime he'll be playing his socks off to get a contract at Liverpool or Barcelona.
No wonder reports suggest the chances of a Liverpool deal are dwindling....
Someone on talksport saying its looking unlikely that a deal will be done this windown.
Nat Phillips to Bournemouth. A good signing for them. We should of be in for him if we knew he was avaliable. Especially with the concerns with Ream.
Bournemouth looking to sign Nat Phillips as well as Neco Williams on loan from Liverpool until the end of the season.
Greedy Scott!
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Bournemouth looking to sign Nat Phillips as well as Neco Williams on loan from Liverpool until the end of the season.
Greedy Scott!
And Cantwell at Norwich and Moore from Cardiff, having already got Laird from Utd. Be a great, great window from them if they got even a couple of those over the line
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Nat Phillips to Bournemouth a done deal....
Perhaps good news as means Liverpool didn't need to offer him to Fulham to sweeten the Carvalho deal.
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Bournemouth looking to sign Nat Phillips as well as Neco Williams on loan from Liverpool until the end of the season.
Greedy Scott!
Fair play to Bournemouth, realise they need improvements to get automatics and going out to get them. Good signings bu them if they come off.
Quote from: Whitestone on January 31, 2022, 12:20:59 PM
Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
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Bournemouth looking to sign Nat Phillips as well as Neco Williams on loan from Liverpool until the end of the season.
Greedy Scott!
And Cantwell at Norwich and Moore from Cardiff, having already got Laird from Utd. Be a great, great window from them if they got even a couple of those over the line
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All these from a manager who blamed the loan system for his under par performances, beggars belief.
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Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
One recognised Striker at this level? Sorry what sport does Muniz play then?
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Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
One recognised Striker at this level? Sorry what sport does Muniz play then?
Think he means proven in the Championship. And whilst I think Muniz is good enough for this league, he isn't proven
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Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
One recognised Striker at this level? Sorry what sport does Muniz play then?
Think he means proven in the Championship. And whilst I think Muniz is good enough for this league, he isn't proven
FWIW, Muniz has a better goals per minute ratio than Mitrovic... for any other team in the league (including Bournemouth) he would be starting far more often.
I dont think Carvalho will go this window. If he holds out until summer he can get a better deal anyway
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Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
I think it's clear that they need more reinforcements than we do.
We may need a no. 10 for Fabio (don't think he'll go this window personally) and a RB though Tete's injury apparently better than first thought.
When you say "don't spring any surprises" I'd say that Muniz (who's goals per minutes is better than Mitro) was a surprise, Tosin, Tete and Robinson for £8m was exceptional business and Wilson has been a fantastic pick up.
Bournemouth certainly going all in, trying to get that spark that I suspect could reignite the team mid year and carry them over the line.
It's a bit trickier for us I think because the concern area is in defence and throwing in a new signing in Jan is a gamble - one that paid off with Hector but could as easily upset the squad.
What do you need to add attacking wise to the highest scoring team in Europe? Can they do the business in the Prem - no, but we're not in the Prem
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Bournemouth must now have a massive squad.
I wonder what their FFP situation is.
I guess people are getting swept up in the flurry of deadline day. We have a good squad, only real reinforcements should be ones that are ready for the step up to the Prem and those are hard to sign while you're still in the championship.
For what it is worth, don't think any of the players that Bournemouth have signed or are rumoured to sign would get into our starting eleven.
Bournemouth's scatter gun is very risky, it could work and they get promoted, or alternatively if they miss out on promotion FFP will bite them on the arse and, Parker will have to bed in 6!!! New players in February, it could really de-stabilise the team having that much upheaval
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I guess people are getting swept up in the flurry of deadline day. We have a good squad, only real reinforcements should be ones that are ready for the step up to the Prem and those are hard to sign while you're still in the championship.
For what it is worth, don't think any of the players that Bournemouth have signed or are rumoured to sign would get into our starting eleven.
This is spot on. How many of the players Bournemtouh are signing will make it in the prem? Or will it be a total rebuild next summer for them if they go up?
Like every transfer deadline day there will be a name bandied about early evening then a mad rush to get them in before the deadline. It's the Fulham way....and I'm here for it! :005:
Dele ali on loan and yedilen on a free thats what will happen
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Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
One recognised Striker at this level? Sorry what sport does Muniz play then?
Swap the word recognised for proven and that is what I meant. Both muniz and standfield totally unproven.
We have a good squad, we don't need to sign anybody.
If BDR can rediscover some form then we have a decent replacement for Fab should he go. If Fab doesn't go, then we're tied by FFP anyway, aren't we?
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Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Liverpool to sign Nat Phillips on loan.
if you add Kiefer Moore and Todd Cantrell to that and I think Bournemouth have stolen a march on us during this transfer window.
We can't be that astute in the transfer market as we cannot seem to loan out the dead wood and do not spring any surprises either. Don't get me wrong a great season to date but we have only 1 recognised striker at this level could really do with a RB and CB
One recognised Striker at this level? Sorry what sport does Muniz play then?
Swap the word recognised for proven and that is what I meant. Both muniz and standfield totally unproven.
...and that's fine with me.
When you have the best forward in the league, who is expected to play 38-40 games, you don't go out to get a proven striker that will be sitting on the bench. You get a player with potential like Muniz that knows he will get his chances, but will have to be patient and may not play that much in the beginning.
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Bournemouth's scatter gun is very risky, it could work and they get promoted, or alternatively if they miss out on promotion FFP will bite them on the arse and, Parker will have to bed in 6!!! New players in February, it could really de-stabilise the team having that much upheaval
It does seem like a 'put all the eggs in one basket while parachute payments are in play' approach. Very risky if it doesn't work.
Parker seemed to always complain about the transfers being taken out of his hands when he was at Fulham. So many linked to Bournemouth I wonder who is in control of these transfers?
Watford Observer reporting that Quina has agreed terms with Barnsley.
Bournemouth's problem will not be the players, it will be manager.
Dundee Courier reporting that Dundee United are closing in on a deal for Super Kevin Mcdonald
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Watford Observer reporting that Quina has agreed terms with Barnsley.
Good news for all parties...
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Bournemouth's scatter gun is very risky, it could work and they get promoted, or alternatively if they miss out on promotion FFP will bite them on the arse and, Parker will have to bed in 6!!! New players in February, it could really de-stabilise the team having that much upheaval
It does seem like a 'put all the eggs in one basket while parachute payments are in play' approach. Very risky if it doesn't work.
It's equally risky for their board to do nothing. Overall the quality of players they are bringing in is good for their squad and will give everyone a fillip.
Being reported that Odoi's close to going to Club Brugge, which would surely mean we have a Right-Back coming in (if true obviously).
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Being reported that Odoi's close to going to Club Brugge, which would surely mean we have a Right-Back coming in (if true obviously).
If true we must have been in talks with someone for a while. Surprised Odoi didn't stick around until the end of the season. Wonder if Fossy will be in our plans in the near future as well. Doing well at Bolton by all accounts, maybe a Championship loan next year would be the next step.
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Being reported that Odoi's close to going to Club Brugge, which would surely mean we have a Right-Back coming in (if true obviously).
Could be an agreement for when his contract expires in the summer, which foreign clubs are allowed to do 6 months in advance. Though Fulham do have a 1 year option.
Sky sports reporting that the Quins to Barnsley deal is now close.
Bournemouth have also signed keeper Freddie Woodman
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Being reported that Odoi's close to going to Club Brugge, which would surely mean we have a Right-Back coming in (if true obviously).
If true we must have been in talks with someone for a while. Surprised Odoi didn't stick around until the end of the season. Wonder if Fossy will be in our plans in the near future as well. Doing well at Bolton by all accounts, maybe a Championship loan next year would be the next step.
TAA must be in a player plus cash deal for Fab
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Dundee Courier reporting that Dundee United are closing in on a deal for Super Kevin Mcdonald
Dundee fc fans want like that as he's a dark blue.
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Being reported that Odoi's close to going to Club Brugge, which would surely mean we have a Right-Back coming in (if true obviously).
If true we must have been in talks with someone for a while. Surprised Odoi didn't stick around until the end of the season. Wonder if Fossy will be in our plans in the near future as well. Doing well at Bolton by all accounts, maybe a Championship loan next year would be the next step.
TAA must be in a player plus cash deal for Fab
Fab plus 50 mill maybe haha
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Being reported that Odoi's close to going to Club Brugge, which would surely mean we have a Right-Back coming in (if true obviously).
If true we must have been in talks with someone for a while. Surprised Odoi didn't stick around until the end of the season. Wonder if Fossy will be in our plans in the near future as well. Doing well at Bolton by all accounts, maybe a Championship loan next year would be the next step.
TAA must be in a player plus cash deal for Fab
Neco Williams in player plus cash deal for Fab?
So Stevie Sess is going out on loan and Odoi is going to Belgium with Fossey at Bolton. We've surely got at least one RB coming in if that's the case otherwise we're completely fecked (FWIW I would get rid of Odoi for a younger and more promising RB ASAP because he's becoming even more of a liability than he already was)
What's Ola Aina up to?
Or Odio is going nowhere and the press have got it wrong
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 31, 2022, 02:44:18 PM
What's Ola Aina up to?
Be a decent signing, did ok in the prem
Reading some reports that are suggesting we've won the battle to keep Fab at the Cottage..
Could change though until the window closes.
Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Tom Lawrence off to Brum per Pete O'Rourke
Peter Rutzler now saying Quina has a medical booked in at Barnsley
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Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 31, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Deflects attention away from their crap manager
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Reading some reports that are suggesting we've won the battle to keep Fab at the Cottage..
Could change though until the window closes.
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Just eight hours to go, so important that we can hang on to Carvalho. Lets hope TK is on the ball.
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Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Deflects attention away from their crap manager
We'd have stayed up last season if it wasn't for him.
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Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 31, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Deflects attention away from their crap manager
Dunno ...they've also taken Nico Williams. He & Philips will be useful if they get promoted...
Fab deal as it is stands is NOT happening, Fukham won't budge and Liverpool won't go as high as we want. Fulham working on 2 incomings but can't release names yet
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Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Deflects attention away from their crap manager
Dunno ...they've also taken Nico Williams. He & Philips will be useful if they get promoted...
Neco Williams the full back at Lookman destroyed away at Liverpool last season? So much so they had to take him off
Fossey at Bolton, Sess to Plymouth, Tete injured.....must be another right back coming in??
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Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Deflects attention away from their crap manager
Dunno ...they've also taken Nico Williams. He & Philips will be useful if they get promoted...
Neco Williams the full back at Lookman destroyed away at Liverpool last season? So much so they had to take him off
WSW, any truth in the Odoi rumour? Seems weird after there was a story in the papers this week about how much he loves living in London...
Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 31, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
No worries. Scotty will coach the 'bang average' right into them.
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Quote from: Hugh Gentry on January 31, 2022, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 31, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
Deflects attention away from their crap manager
Dunno ...they've also taken Nico Williams. He & Philips will be useful if they get promoted...
Neco Williams the full back at Lookman destroyed away at Liverpool last season? So much so they had to take him off
WSW, any truth in the Odoi rumour? Seems weird after there was a story in the papers this week about how much he loves living in London...
This Odoi deal is for the summer, will be a pre-contract agreement as far as I understand
WSW - thanks for the updates -really appreciate it - also like your new nickname for our club
" Fukham won't budge and Liverpool won't go as high as we want."
Sweet
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 03:17:17 PM
Fab deal as it is stands is NOT happening, Fukham won't budge and Liverpool won't go as high as we want. Fulham working on 2 incomings but can't release names yet
Can you tell us the positions they play?
Quote from: HV71 on January 31, 2022, 03:41:22 PM
WSW - thanks for the updates -really appreciate it - also like your new nickname for our club
" Fukham won't budge and Liverpool won't go as high as we want."
Sweet
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Sam Surridge going from Stoke to Forest for £2m per John Percy
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Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 31, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
Bournemouth are doing some serious business today.
Nat Phillips, Kieffer Moore, Todd Cantwell all linked.
No worries. Scotty will coach the 'bang average' right into them.
Good job they got their transfer business done early. Stop him moaning :005:
Nat Phillips to Bournemouth official, £1.5m loan fee with £250k extra if they go up
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 04:02:35 PM
Nat Phillips to Bournemouth official, £1.5m loan fee with £250k extra if they go up
Are we going to bother strengthening our defence?
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 04:02:35 PM
Nat Phillips to Bournemouth official, £1.5m loan fee with £250k extra if they go up
So 1.5mill then
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Nat Phillips to Bournemouth official, £1.5m loan fee with £250k extra if they go up
Are we going to bother strengthening our defence?
Can only do so if something better that what we have is available and within our FFP budget, so assuming we are either trying (RB has been mentioned as a possible incoming) or nothing that Marco feels that is better than hat we have is available.
Sure someone on here said MS is having a heavy input into who we are looking to bring in
Tiehi gone on loan to Rodez Aveyron Foot until the end of the season
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Who reckons Liverpool will pay the 10+ million for Fab? It's the only way we sell, do people think they will? I actually don't know at the moment just asking
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Who reckons Liverpool will pay the 10+ million for Fab? It's the only way we sell, do people think they will? I actually don't know at the moment just asking
No way.
And our incomings, one of the positions is RB?
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 05:13:52 PM
Who reckons Liverpool will pay the 10+ million for Fab? It's the only way we sell, do people think they will? I actually don't know at the moment just asking
I think it's a reasonable fee for them to beat off competition from abroad, so honestly maybe. I can't see £15m, but £10-12m with a loan back would be decent business for us
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Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 05:13:52 PM
Who reckons Liverpool will pay the 10+ million for Fab? It's the only way we sell, do people think they will? I actually don't know at the moment just asking
I think it's a reasonable fee for them to beat off competition from abroad, so honestly maybe. I can't see £15m, but £10-12m with a loan back would be decent business for us
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I know there is the expiring contract but how much was Wilson, like 9m? Fab even at his current level isn't a terrible deal for 10m and he's likely to get a lot better
I can't help but feel that it's our failure to bring in any funds for Anguissa this month that has buggered up our ability to recruit and at the same time made us more determined to dig our heels in with Liverpool to try and screw every last penny out of them.
Quote from: Riversider on January 31, 2022, 05:25:34 PM
I can't help but feel that it's our failure to bring in any funds for Anguissa this month that has buggered up our ability to recruit and at the same time made us more determined to dig our heels in with Liverpool to try and screw every last penny out of them.
We were never due to sell Anguissa this month though, he's on a 12 month loan with an option to buy
Quote from: Riversider on January 31, 2022, 05:25:34 PM
I can't help but feel that it's our failure to bring in any funds for Anguissa this month that has buggered up our ability to recruit and at the same time made us more determined to dig our heels in with Liverpool to try and screw every last penny out of them.
This message makes no sense
How can a club in Italy not taking an option up six months before they need to, be failing of our club?
There was talk of
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Quote from: Riversider on January 31, 2022, 05:25:34 PM
I can't help but feel that it's our failure to bring in any funds for Anguissa this month that has buggered up our ability to recruit and at the same time made us more determined to dig our heels in with Liverpool to try and screw every last penny out of them.
We were never due to sell Anguissa this month though, he's on a 12 month loan with an option to buy
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It was widely reported at the start of this month that he was going to sign for £10 million after other clubs including Palace showed an interest him, the fee never materialised hence why we are where you are now.
I'm certain that if it was reported in the papers then it must be true.
TK, get out of my club!
Matt Targett to Newcastle confirmed
Whatever the outcome I'm delighted to see us standing firm against the Scousers. Having our pants pulled down once by them is once too many times
Amazing football Fabio £10 million Dan Burn £13 million.
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There was talk of Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 05:26:34 PM
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I can't help but feel that it's our failure to bring in any funds for Anguissa this month that has buggered up our ability to recruit and at the same time made us more determined to dig our heels in with Liverpool to try and screw every last penny out of them.
We were never due to sell Anguissa this month though, he's on a 12 month loan with an option to buy
It was widely reported at the start of this month that he was going to sign for £10 million after other clubs including Palace showed an interest him, the fee never materialised hence why we are where you are now.
Ah yes because it was in the Sun it must've been true.
Not Fulham related but Ben Brereton Diaz could be leaving Blackburn.......for Barcelona!!!
https://twitter.com/spursito/status/1488215545602314244
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 31, 2022, 06:41:00 PM
Not Fulham related but Ben Brereton Diaz could be leaving Blackburn.......for Barcelona!!!
Bonkers
I would believe something like this is happening with Carvalho:
Liverpool, after sufficient tapping up, offer 5m + a loan back for the rest of the season. Fulham said "LOL, no" and countered with 12-15m. Liverpool said "We'll give you 9m plus a sell-on, but we take Fabio now," and Fulham are (to this point) refusing to authorize a deal without a loan back.
Despite what Liverpool fans think, they get significant value in doing this now and getting Carvalho rather than jousting with teams in the summer when more suitors could be in play. They need to pay for that privilege.
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Wouldn't surprise me if a deals completes a deal this window if a loan back for 18months was included, would suit all parties involved
This is the very best we can hope for. We get him until the end of the season and a whole year in the prem. He gets guaranteed first team football and Liverpool can see what he's like in a premier league team. If we manage to stay up then we get the premier league money to get a replacement. The lad never wanted to stay which is a real shame but we need to be clever in what we do now. Leaves a big hole if we can't have him next season.
I think loans for longer than 12months were banned from thevstart of this season, so most likely a 6m loan.
Not sure they are, say that as spurs just loaned some guy from Juventus for 18 months
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 06:53:26 PM
I would believe something like this is happening with Carvalho:
Liverpool, after sufficient tapping up, offer 5m + a loan back for the rest of the season. Fulham said "LOL, no" and countered with 12-15m. Liverpool said "We'll give you 9m plus a sell-on, but we take Fabio now," and Fulham are (to this point) refusing to authorize a deal without a loan back.
Despite what Liverpool fans think, they get significant value in doing this now and getting Carvalho rather than jousting with teams in the summer when more suitors could be in play. They need to pay for that privilege.
It is a bit funny to read their fansites go on about how £5 million is a great deal because we might not get that much from the arbitration. How tin pot do they think Fulham is?
I just can't see Tony Khan bending over and letting Liverpool do the same thing they did to him with Harvey Elliot, think Carvalho will stay unless there's a serious fee.
Woolly are you at Motspur Park in the Bushes...Any movement?😺
Latest Carvalho update
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1488233461831938059
My 1,000th post on here....shame it's about a player leaving :005:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 07:17:09 PM
Woolly are you at Motspur Park in the Bushes...Any movement?😺
Motspur Park is in complete darkness, i think everyone has gone home for the day.
I did get a glimpse of Sir Craven of Cottage earlier on with his sword and shield looking for a fight shouting at members of the public walking passed the gates " come over here if you think your hard enough "
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 07:17:09 PM
Woolly are you at Motspur Park in the Bushes...Any movement?😺
Motspur Park is in complete darkness, i think everyone has gone home for the day.
I did get a glimpse of Sir Craven of Cottage earlier on with his sword and shield looking for a fight shouting at members of the public walking passed the gates " come over here if you think your hard enough "
😁
Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
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Amazing football Fabio £10 million Dan Burn £13 million.
And Deli Alli for 40 million!
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Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
Whose the *****?
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Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
Whose the p****?
He's deleted it [emoji849]
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Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
Whose the p****?
And what, pray tell, does he define as "the right thing"?
Shame, Aubanyang went on a free, we missed out there.............
Hope he buckles down at Barca & cuts out the cr*p.
Remember Zach Clough was going to be a superstar some thought...His career has nose dived last few years,now been released by Carlisle....It's a hard old game Zach.
He has a big pair of tits growing there
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Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
Whose the p****?
And what, pray tell, does he define as "the right thing"?
Bending over and letting the big clubs plant their flagpole
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Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
Whose the p****?
And what, pray tell, does he define as "the right thing"?
I think he means give them our prized talent for peanuts. Yeah ok mate [emoji849] Jeez glory hunters are annoying!
Sunderland in for Kongolo.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 08:11:45 PM
Sunderland in for Kongolo.
He needs a better standard than league 1 surely.
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Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Why do glory hunters think they're entitled? https://twitter.com/CleverClaremont/status/1488237331605819393?t=HJ0SZQkARXm863rhuvQ4lA&s=19
Whose the p****?
And what, pray tell, does he define as "the right thing"?
I think he means give them our prized talent for peanuts. Yeah ok mate [emoji849] Jeez glory hunters are annoying!
On the other hand, the same bloke tweeted this yesterday, so he seems a bit conflicted:-
https://twitter.com/cleverclaremont/status/1487807099497324546?s=21
Brad is a land of contrasts.
Anything to report WSW ?
Must be a relative of Nick (Master) Bateman
Quote from: jeffc4golf on January 31, 2022, 08:22:55 PM
Anything to report WSW ?
Very unlikely anyone comes in, there is 1 possible right back but it's dependent on his club doing other deals. Fab likely to stay as Liverpool unlikely to meet our asking price for him
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Anything to report WSW ?
Very unlikely anyone comes in, there is 1 possible right back but it's dependent on his club doing other deals. Fab likely to stay as Liverpool unlikely to meet our asking price for him
8th richest club in the world [emoji23][emoji23]
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Anything to report WSW ?
Very unlikely anyone comes in, there is 1 possible right back but it's dependent on his club doing other deals. Fab likely to stay as Liverpool unlikely to meet our asking price for him
8th richest club in the world [emoji23][emoji23]
If Liverpool do meet our asking price, we won't let him go without a loan back
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Anything to report WSW ?
Very unlikely anyone comes in, there is 1 possible right back but it's dependent on his club doing other deals. Fab likely to stay as Liverpool unlikely to meet our asking price for him
8th richest club in the world [emoji23][emoji23]
If Liverpool do meet our asking price, we won't let him go without a loan back
Too right.
https://twitter.com/realkevinpalmer/status/1488248267645276161
Dembele from Posh to Boscombe done
Who'll be this windows everything agreed with club but couldn't get it over the line player!!
Quote from: JimmyConway on January 31, 2022, 08:45:54 PM
Who'll be this windows everything agreed with club but couldn't get it over the line player!!
Carvalho :005:
We're in for Neco Williams 👀
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488252409868652551
Dembele, Moore, Cantwell, Phillips, Woodman, Brady, Laird and Hill (+there might be more)...Bournemouth really are going all in to catch us!
Bournemouth obviously think they didn't have enough and signing players (lots on deadline day) to try and get them over the line this season. Seems a bit scattergun.
Quote from: RoyTund on January 31, 2022, 08:49:06 PM
Bournemouth obviously think they didn't have enough and signing players (lots on deadline day) to try and get them over the line this season. Seems a bit scattergun.
Seem to recall that Parker blamed that exact kind of behaviour for his failures a year ago.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 31, 2022, 08:48:59 PM
We're in for Neco Williams [emoji102]
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488252409868652551
This might sweeten the Fab deal
Quote from: RoyTund on January 31, 2022, 08:49:06 PM
Bournemouth obviously think they didn't have enough and signing players (lots on deadline day) to try and get them over the line this season. Seems a bit scattergun.
Tomorrows Derby County if they don't go up this season
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 08:54:02 PM
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We're in for Neco Williams [emoji102]
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488252409868652551
This might sweeten the Fab deal
I'd rather keep Odoi than have him, Lookman made him look non-league. If we end up selling fab to the bin dippers and get him in return then it's a truly atrocious deal on our part
Steve Sess off to Plymouth.
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We're in for Neco Williams [emoji102]
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488252409868652551
This might sweeten the Fab deal
I'd rather keep Odoi than have him, Lookman made him look non-league. If we end up selling fab to the bin dippers and get him in return then it's a truly atrocious deal on our part
Not saying I want it to happen
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 31, 2022, 08:39:24 PM
https://twitter.com/realkevinpalmer/status/1488248267645276161
How does MR Palmer know he wants the move.
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Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 31, 2022, 08:39:24 PM
https://twitter.com/realkevinpalmer/status/1488248267645276161
How does MR Palmer know he wants the move.
Probably because he's a Liverpool fan and they assume everyone wants to play for them.
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We're in for Neco Williams [emoji102]
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488252409868652551
This might sweeten the Fab deal
I'd rather keep Odoi than have him, Lookman made him look non-league. If we end up selling fab to the bin dippers and get him in return then it's a truly atrocious deal on our part
Williams is far more of a Silva full back though, attacking and can also cover the wing positions too. Also Tete not out for long either
Wilson and Williams also have played a lot of football together down the wings
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 09:13:32 PM
Wilson and Williams also have played a lot of football together down the wings
I heard that jonjo kenny could be an option, any truth to it?
Someone said lights out in Motspur incline to believe that.
Quote from: Tabby on January 31, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on January 31, 2022, 08:49:06 PM
Bournemouth obviously think they didn't have enough and signing players (lots on deadline day) to try and get them over the line this season. Seems a bit scattergun.
Seem to recall that Parker blamed that exact kind of behaviour for his failures a year ago.
One way to upset a squad expect a few 1st teamers will be left to rot, beginning to think we got promoted in spite of Parker in of because when you see how well the team is doing know
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Why?
He's not that a great player!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2022, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Why?
He's not that a great player!
He's not, as someone mentioned the other day. Would you pick Dembele over Kebano? I wouldn't.
We want to be signing players who can cut it in the Prem, and I don't think he would personally
Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Might have been an asset, even despite a relatively poor season for him, but we are in the fortunate position for once of not needing to. Bournemouth on the other hand, given the number of players (and the type of) suggest to me they have to go up this season or face ffp issues and don't have confidence in what they have. These also don't speak of signings looking ahead to next season in a league above but rather just get us out of here and then worry about it.
Another one in at QPR...Jeff Hendrick from Newcastle.
Been told there now could be a 2nd incoming with Neco Williams, not from Liverpool but I don't know who they are or what position they play
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 09:41:13 PM
Been told there now could be a 2nd incoming with Neco Williams, not from Liverpool but I don't know who they are or what position they play
Thanks WSW. Bit early yet for us to making new signings..........
Quote from: SP on January 31, 2022, 08:06:17 PM
Shame, Aubanyang went on a free, we missed out there.............
Hope he buckles down at Barca & cuts out the cr*p.
Glad we did not sign him. He has the worst haircut in the history of mankind.
Nick Bateman to Bog End Utd
Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Siriki Dembele really is not any better than Wilson, Kebano, Cavaleiro, BDR or Knockaert so no need to be upset about that.
I know people will cry about me saying this, but that mob down in Ealing must be pinching themselves with the Erikson signing.
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
"I know people will cry about me saying this, but that mob down in Ealing must be pinching themselves with the Erikson signing."
Let's hope he keeps well. If he does, probably the signing of the window.
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Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Siriki Dembele really is not any better than Wilson, Kebano, Cavaleiro, BDR or Knockaert so no need to be upset about that.
Dembele is a bad egg, downed tools at Grimsby to force a move and done the same thing at Posh according to their owner
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
£10m for Fab is decent money given the circumstances but I hope there's a sell on clause. Will forever be a bitter pill to swallow that we're losing the best player our academy has ever produced for peanuts though in the grand scheme of things.
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
If the reports earlier are correct, I'm glad we didn't roll-over for them.
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Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Annoyed Bournemouth got Dembele for almost nothing. He could've been excellent for us but we've allowed our biggest rivals to strengthen their options.
Why?
He's not that a great player!
We have Muniz and Mitro , streets ahead of Bournmouth surely.
Liverpool have agreed a deal with Fulham for teenage forward Fabio Carvalho.
The two clubs staged lengthy negotiations throughout transfer deadline day before an undisclosed fee was settled shortly before the deadline.
It will now be a race against time to conduct a medical and finalise personal terms before the transfer window shuts with 19-year-old Carvalho expected to return to Fulham for the rest of this season.
Josh Maja to Stoke.
Jermain Defoe Sunderland..lol...He must be 50 by now😅
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Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
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Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
8.35
Really sad to see Fab go... such a shame. Oh well.
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Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
Depends if there's a sell on clause too, as we would've likely gotten that from a tribunal
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 09:56:19 PM
£10m for Fab is decent money given the circumstances but I hope there's a sell on clause. Will forever be a bitter pill to swallow that we're losing the best player our academy has ever produced for peanuts though in the grand scheme of things.
It's not £10m it's €10m
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Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
And a 20 percent sell on fee I heard
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 09:56:19 PM
£10m for Fab is decent money given the circumstances but I hope there's a sell on clause. Will forever be a bitter pill to swallow that we're losing the best player our academy has ever produced for peanuts though in the grand scheme of things.
Agree. Genuinely gutted with how this has panned out.
Mawson off to Birmingham?
Any update on players wsw
Don't know why, but I still don't think Fabio will sign for anyone else this window. I just don't see it for some reason. Guess we'll know in a couple of hours
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Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
8.35
As I said give or take as different rates for business customers and normal folk.
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2022, 10:19:54 PM
Don't know why, but I still don't think Fabio will sign for anyone else this window. I just don't see it for some reason. Guess we'll know in a couple of hours
He's gone. There's too much noise about it.
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Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
And a 20 percent sell on fee I heard
If that's correct then we have done well, pat on the back for TK
Sess gone to Plymouth, on offal.
To be fair if the option is losing Fab on a free in the summer of getting £8M a loan back and a sell on clause I would say that's pretty good for a bad situation
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 09:56:19 PM
£10m for Fab is decent money given the circumstances but I hope there's a sell on clause. Will forever be a bitter pill to swallow that we're losing the best player our academy has ever produced for peanuts though in the grand scheme of things.
Has ever produced?? Are you sure about that lol. Johnny Haynes or George Cohen..
Even if we focus on the last 20 years, we have produced players who are arguably better than Fabio, the truth is time will tell how good he is, some young players peak early then go down hill from there
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 31, 2022, 10:24:48 PM
To be fair if the option is losing Fab on a free in the summer of getting £8M a loan back and a sell on clause I would say that's pretty good for a bad situation
Yes, the cards felt stacked against us.
No class https://twitter.com/FudaylOmar/status/1488276892310507522?t=l0oSZy4obFkSQuTSXW7GJw&s=19
I hope the club are looking ahead and get a rival clause agreed. Fabio shouldn't be able to join a team in the bottom half of the PL on loan next season. Can you imagine Fabio scoring against us playing in a Bournemouth shirt.
Not even bothered about Neco Williams. Minor upgrade on Christie for a backup right back.
Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 10:31:11 PM
Not even bothered about Neco Williams. Minor upgrade on Christie for a backup right back.
Christie is no longer here
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2022, 10:30:16 PM
I hope the club are looking ahead and get a rival clause agreed. Fabio shouldn't be able to join a team in the bottom half of the PL on loan next season. Can you imagine Fabio scoring against us playing in a Bournemouth shirt.
He might be back with us again next season. Who knows?
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2022, 10:30:16 PM
I hope the club are looking ahead and get a rival clause agreed. Fabio shouldn't be able to join a team in the bottom half of the PL on loan next season. Can you imagine Fabio scoring against us playing in a Bournemouth shirt.
Sounds exceptionally Fulhamish....
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: junior white on January 31, 2022, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
Fee agreed for Fab per Paul Joyce. Personal terms and medical due.
€10m per Fabrizio Romano
So around 8.5 million pounds give or take, considering KFC were reportedly only willing to go to 5 million the club have gone well if the report is correct
And a 20 percent sell on fee I heard
If this is true it's a game changer
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on January 31, 2022, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: Pluto on January 31, 2022, 10:31:11 PM
Not even bothered about Neco Williams. Minor upgrade on Christie for a backup right back.
Christie is no longer here
Yes and Williams is an okay replacement
The sell on fee is the most important part of the negotiations for me. You can't blame him for wanting to go there. Scheme wise he's a perfect fit for that forward line, and Klopp has continually given younger players a chance. He's going to a team that's competing every season for every trophy.
Would love to keep these academy players, but that's just unrealistic due to our instability to stay in the premier league over the last few seasons. The same thing happened to Southampton on a much much bigger scale. They've lost loads of academy prospects over the years
Skysports now reporting the deal might not go through due to lack of time.
I said this earlier and I'll say it again, I really don't think he's going to leave this window. Let's see what happens
Quote from: Caedal on January 31, 2022, 10:34:03 PM
The sell on fee is the most important part of the negotiations for me. You can't blame him for wanting to go there. Scheme wise he's a perfect fit for that forward line, and Klopp has continually given younger players a chance. He's going to a team that's competing every season for every trophy.
Would love to keep these academy players, but that's just unrealistic due to our instability to stay in the premier league over the last few seasons. The same thing happened to Southampton on a much much bigger scale. They've lost loads of academy prospects over the years
If we can maintain ourselves in the PL are youngsters will stay, no doubt
Lousy day. We just gave up our best player, potentially, in about 50 years. The money is meaningless to us. We probably got ripped off as usual anyway, and the deal reported is unlikely to be factual. I am fully aware that our hands were tied and we had to get the best out of it in a losing position. We paid 10 million for Cav and knocks and they couldn't clean Fab's boots! Very upset. Forget the money as it won't help us. Meanwhile Bournemouth got half a new team
Quote from: Caedal on January 31, 2022, 10:34:03 PM
The sell on fee is the most important part of the negotiations for me. You can't blame him for wanting to go there. Scheme wise he's a perfect fit for that forward line, and Klopp has continually given younger players a chance. He's going to a team that's competing every season for every trophy.
Would love to keep these academy players, but that's just unrealistic due to our instability to stay in the premier league over the last few seasons. The same thing happened to Southampton on a much much bigger scale. They've lost loads of academy prospects over the years
Completely agree and there are so many factors, including form, injury etc. He gets his fair share of the rough stuff already, I can see this increasing now.
Quina been sent back
Quote from: Caedal on January 31, 2022, 10:34:03 PM
The sell on fee is the most important part of the negotiations for me. You can't blame him for wanting to go there. Scheme wise he's a perfect fit for that forward line, and Klopp has continually given younger players a chance. He's going to a team that's competing every season for every trophy.
Would love to keep these academy players, but that's just unrealistic due to our instability to stay in the premier league over the last few seasons. The same thing happened to Southampton on a much much bigger scale. They've lost loads of academy prospects over the years
So what's the point of an academy? Close the bloody thing and just buy players instead - we don't use half of them anyway! We just let the same 2 or 3 parasite clubs take all the promising ones for basically f'all!
Edit - also these kids come here thinking they will get the training and exposure to move on
Quote from: St Eve on January 31, 2022, 10:37:55 PM
Lousy day. We just gave up our best player, potentially, in about 50 years. The money is meaningless to us. We probably got ripped off as usual anyway, and the deal reported is unlikely to be factual. I am fully aware that our hands were tied and we had to get the best out of it in a losing position. We paid 10 million for Cav and knocks and they couldn't clean Fab's boots! Very upset. Forget the money as it won't help us. Meanwhile Bournemouth got half a new team
I think everyone needs to take a step back, he's no where near our best player in the last 50 years. He's not even our best player now, I guarantee if I did a poll tomorrow asking who would Fulham fans prefer to keep, Mitrovic or Fabio, 75% would choose Mitro.
Mouses Dembele mark 1, Louis Saha, Brede Hangland, Van Der Sar, Danny Murphy, all different level to Fabio and it's not even close. Fabio certainly has potential, but again you never know how youngsters will develop- Ryan Sessegnon is a prime example of this
It's either he leaves now and we get some money for him and keep him on loan till the end of the season or he leaves on a free at the end of the season. Don't see how people can be disappointed. He's leaving one way or another, he's made that obvious.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2022, 10:41:45 PM
Quote from: Caedal on January 31, 2022, 10:34:03 PM
The sell on fee is the most important part of the negotiations for me. You can't blame him for wanting to go there. Scheme wise he's a perfect fit for that forward line, and Klopp has continually given younger players a chance. He's going to a team that's competing every season for every trophy.
Would love to keep these academy players, but that's just unrealistic due to our instability to stay in the premier league over the last few seasons. The same thing happened to Southampton on a much much bigger scale. They've lost loads of academy prospects over the years
So what's the point of an academy? Close the bloody thing and just buy players instead - we don't use half of them anyway! We just let the same 2 or 3 parasite clubs take all the promising ones for basically f'all!
Edit - also these kids come here thinking they will get the training and exposure to move on
Amen
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2022, 10:43:07 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 31, 2022, 10:37:55 PM
Lousy day. We just gave up our best player, potentially, in about 50 years. The money is meaningless to us. We probably got ripped off as usual anyway, and the deal reported is unlikely to be factual. I am fully aware that our hands were tied and we had to get the best out of it in a losing position. We paid 10 million for Cav and knocks and they couldn't clean Fab's boots! Very upset. Forget the money as it won't help us. Meanwhile Bournemouth got half a new team
I think everyone needs to take a step back, he's no where near our best player in the last 50 years. He's not even our best player now, I guarantee if I did a poll tomorrow asking who would Fulham fans prefer to keep, Mitrovic or Fabio, 75% would choose Mitro.
Mouses Dembele mark 1, Louis Saha, Brede Hangland, Van Der Sar, Danny Murphy, all different level to Fabio and it's not even close. Fabio certainly has potential, but again you never know how youngsters will develop- Ryan Sessegnon is a prime example of this
I said potentially. Not established
Quote from: JEEVES on January 31, 2022, 10:44:23 PM
It's either he leaves now and we get some money for him and keep him on loan till the end of the season or he leaves on a free at the end of the season. Don't see how people can be disappointed. He's leaving one way or another, he's made that obvious.
This is exactly it. Dissapointing but he clearly had made up his mind that he was off and almost certainly tapped up and promised crazy money which he clearly thinks is more important to him than being a Fulham star.
How many players can you loan from one club? Wilson, Carvalho and Williams would be three from Liverpool..
Bournemouth now signed Cantwell. How many is that today??
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on January 31, 2022, 10:52:37 PM
Bournemouth now signed Cantwell. How many is that today??
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Parker will have him playing CDM
"I think everyone needs to take a step back, he's no where near our best player in the last 50 years. He's not even our best player now, I guarantee if I did a poll tomorrow asking who would Fulham fans prefer to keep, Mitrovic or Fabio, 75% would choose Mitro.
Mouses Dembele mark 1, Louis Saha, Brede Hangland, Van Der Sar, Danny Murphy, all different level to Fabio and it's not even close. Fabio certainly has potential, but again you never know how youngsters will develop- Ryan Sessegnon is a prime example of this."
Agreed.
Fav. MAY turn out better than any of those you list and earlier greats, such as Haynes, Cohen and Robson. Or in two years he might be joining Roberts at Sunderland. If the terms are as speculated, we've done as well as realistic.
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Bournemouth now signed Cantwell. How many is that today??
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Of all the players Bournmouth have signed today, he's the only one I'd have liked if fully fit.
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on January 31, 2022, 10:52:37 PM
Bournemouth now signed Cantwell. How many is that today??
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Parker will have him playing CDM
Parkers pooping himself signed 5 When you consider the lead they had at the top of the table now holding on for 3rd
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Could lose Marco now.
Lee Johnson sacked by Sunderland,2nd in table,games going silly.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 11:05:38 PM
Lee Johnson sacked by Sunderland,2nd in table,games going silly.
Going?
Quote from: Oakeshott on January 31, 2022, 10:54:32 PM
"I think everyone needs to take a step back, he's no where near our best player in the last 50 years. He's not even our best player now, I guarantee if I did a poll tomorrow asking who would Fulham fans prefer to keep, Mitrovic or Fabio, 75% would choose Mitro.
Good post. Disappointing to see him leave and I wish him well, but it's not the end of the world. I see a PL footballer in him for sure, but I'm not convinced that he's a top four player.
Looks like Odoi is gone if we get Neco Williams from the bin dippers
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 11:10:32 PM
Looks like Odoi is gone if we get Neco Williams from the bin dippers
\WSW said Odoi is a Summer deal.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 11:10:32 PM
Looks like Odoi is gone if we get Neco Williams from the bin dippers
\WSW said Odoi is a Summer deal.
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488287314694610944?s=21
Fab deal fell through
Is that it then?
Quote from: StuinSalop on January 31, 2022, 10:47:33 PM
Quote from: JEEVES on January 31, 2022, 10:44:23 PM
It's either he leaves now and we get some money for him and keep him on loan till the end of the season or he leaves on a free at the end of the season. Don't see how people can be disappointed. He's leaving one way or another, he's made that obvious.
This is exactly it. Dissapointing but he clearly had made up his mind that he was off and almost certainly tapped up and promised crazy money which he clearly thinks is more important to him than being a Fulham star.
Why aren't we giving him crazy money
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Its off!
Staying!
Good!
Yeeees
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 10:27:17 PM
No class https://twitter.com/FudaylOmar/status/1488276892310507522?t=l0oSZy4obFkSQuTSXW7GJw&s=19
We should hold out until there is no time and leave the reds fuming?
Very strange that suddenly the loan back for the season was the reason it fell through. Surely Liverpool knew that was going to be a compulsory part of the deal from the beginning...
Excellent
Anything better then letting him go to that cheat of a club!
If he's not happy about it - tough
Quote from: Caedal on January 31, 2022, 11:18:04 PM
Very strange that suddenly the loan back for the season was the reason it fell through. Surely Liverpool knew that was going to be a compulsory part of the deal from the beginning...
I found that strange too. Crystal Palace did the same thing with that kid from Derby and there were no problems or "complications".
They've been well and truly shafted. COYW
Hope he goes to Bayern or somewhere in the summer. Couldnt give a sh1t about a couple million
I mean, ultimately I guess he goes there and we get a tribunal fee but well played FFC for sticking to our guns that he would not leave us in this window even if it meant losing few mill.
Barca want him in the summer
Worse case scenario - player upset, we have no money and no neco Williams.
+ Carvalho Will start pulling out of challenges towards the end of the season to save his legs
My only fear, if it is truly off, is that he will have a bad attitude and won't give it his all. Hopefully he remains professional and true to the promotion cause.
Neco Williams [emoji6]
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Delighted. The transfer fee was pennies by PL standards. We'll make it many times over if we are promoted.
He'll have a deal sorted out to join the Mickey Mousers tomorrow morning.
He won't drop off, he's got a seriously good employer to impress.
Fav has every incentive to play his socks off for the rest of the season.
If he continues to impress, we go up, and he can't be persuaded to stay, he be free to go wherever it suits him, and the world is certainly a great deal bigger than Liverpool!
Something a bit odd here. If Liverpool really wanted him that badly surely they would not be arguing over a few extra million a d now they have not got him. I wonder if we dragged it out on purpose to stitch them up after what they did with the Elliott fee or maybe they were just not that concerned about signing him at all. So in the end, Silva was right, Fab is still a Fulham player and who know, when we get promoted he may change his mind and sign, or maybe he will sign earlier,, football is a funny old game.
I'm wondering if our chairman had the hump with the Elliott deal.... And Barca get him for a free in the summer
I think he will now really have to step up and show his worth. if we are promoted then he will be well advised to reconsider and play for us in the prem for a year or two. otherwise he could end up at sunderland
Williams deal is still ON currently, was done as a separate deal
Quote from: love4ffc on January 31, 2022, 11:23:17 PM
My only fear, if it is truly off, is that he will have a bad attitude and won't give it his all. Hopefully he remains professional and true to the promotion cause.
If that happens then Silva won't pick him, he's already stated that about players they have to give everything even in training!
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Cant defend according to my Liverpool mates.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 11:27:09 PM
Williams deal is still ON currently, was done as a separate deal
That would be quite a negotiation given the current circumstances!
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 11:27:09 PM
Williams deal is still ON currently, was done as a separate deal
What about the mystery second player?
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Cant defend according to my Liverpool mates.
Will fit right in with our defenders at the moment :005:
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Cant defend according to my Liverpool mates.
Will fit right in with our defenders at the moment :005:
I was just about to say that [emoji23] Can he cross though? Is he quick? Marco will say yes.
We do love leaving things to the last minute to get deals over the line.
Best thing now is if Liverpool try and go cheap in the summer and it goes to a tribunal, its a case of say well they where going to pay x in Jan and he now has more games and a promotion to his name.
Quite like the facts we screwed them.
If I was Crav i might even thing they didn't thing i was worth it why should I go to them
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 11:28:53 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 11:27:09 PM
Williams deal is still ON currently, was done as a separate deal
What about the mystery second player?
I think it's Van Dijk.
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 31, 2022, 11:28:53 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 31, 2022, 11:27:09 PM
Williams deal is still ON currently, was done as a separate deal
What about the mystery second player?
That fell through
We submit a deal sheet for Neco Williams?
Quote from: IloveFFC on January 31, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
We submit a deal sheet for Neco Williams?
WSW is this something you're aware of?
We submitted a deal sheet, however, now hearing the deal is in doubt....waiting for confirmation but sounds like Liverpool May have pulled the plug
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Oh cmon it's hardly our fault as the selling club. If Liverpool don't offer us a fair value for the player with enough time to do a deal then that's on them and not us. They've also stuffed up because we agreed a fee with them which we can submit as evidence to arbitration if he ends up going there as to how we value him...
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Might just be me but rattling the whole of Liverpool is worth 8 million quid any day
Fulham have played an extremely bad hand as well as they could have done.
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Tony loves the last minute drama. He admitted it. Trying to get a 'bargain'. Well we've got a bargain of -8 million here unless Fab signs a contract with us. Although it sounds like Liverpool messed this one up. But who knows?
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Because he is worth so much more. We don't need the money and can't even spend it now. Let's get promotion and see what happens. Also it's good that Liverpool can't bully us
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Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Tony loves the last minute drama. He admitted it. Trying to get a 'bargain'. Well we've got a bargain of -8 million here unless Fab signs a contract with us. Although it sounds like Liverpool messed this one up. But who knows?
I believe he can do a pre-agreement with anyone now, and if it's with a club not in England, we basically get nothing and Fabio may get even more because there's no transfer fee involved. If he wants Liverpool, I assume the clubs can do the deal as agreed upon, but who knows at this point.
Nico Williams deal may still be on then
https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1488302432857767941
Can anyone play right back on this board?
Denis has actually left?
Odoi gone
https://twitter.com/peterrutzler/status/1488302826883272704?t=k37d8sV-FQQUb-Y3kWbn8g&s=19
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Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Tony loves the last minute drama. He admitted it. Trying to get a 'bargain'. Well we've got a bargain of -8 million here unless Fab signs a contract with us. Although it sounds like Liverpool messed this one up. But who knows?
I believe he can do a pre-agreement with anyone now, and if it's with a club not in England, we basically get nothing and Fabio may get even more because there's no transfer fee involved. If he wants Liverpool, I assume the clubs can do the deal as agreed upon, but who knows at this point.
You're not able to sign a pre-contract agreement under the age of 21 with any team irrespective of the country they're in
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1488302698420125696?s=20&t=BsiwdVRhFj7f2T7F6emJzQ
Sylvester Jasper has gone to Hibs on loan
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 01, 2022, 12:11:07 AM
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1488302698420125696?s=20&t=BsiwdVRhFj7f2T7F6emJzQ
Thank you Denis. Smashing bloke. Good luck fella.
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Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Tony loves the last minute drama. He admitted it. Trying to get a 'bargain'. Well we've got a bargain of -8 million here unless Fab signs a contract with us. Although it sounds like Liverpool messed this one up. But who knows?
I believe he can do a pre-agreement with anyone now, and if it's with a club not in England, we basically get nothing and Fabio may get even more because there's no transfer fee involved. If he wants Liverpool, I assume the clubs can do the deal as agreed upon, but who knows at this point.
You're not able to sign a pre-contract agreement under the age of 21 with any team irrespective of the country they're in
Apologies if I was wrong on this given Fabio's age. So then I have no idea what happens here.
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Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 01, 2022, 12:11:07 AM
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1488302698420125696?s=20&t=BsiwdVRhFj7f2T7F6emJzQ
Thank you Denis. Smashing bloke. Good luck fella.
Many thanks Dennis, a true pro and Fulham stalwart
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Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Tony loves the last minute drama. He admitted it. Trying to get a 'bargain'. Well we've got a bargain of -8 million here unless Fab signs a contract with us. Although it sounds like Liverpool messed this one up. But who knows?
I believe he can do a pre-agreement with anyone now, and if it's with a club not in England, we basically get nothing and Fabio may get even more because there's no transfer fee involved. If he wants Liverpool, I assume the clubs can do the deal as agreed upon, but who knows at this point.
You're not able to sign a pre-contract agreement under the age of 21 with any team irrespective of the country they're in
Apologies if I was wrong on this given Fabio's age. So then I have no idea what happens here.
Basically it's a rubbish stop gap to prevent teams pilfering young talent (in reality doesn't make much difference) but it's means that officially only we can offer him contracts up until June when his deal with us expires. After that anyone can offer him a contract and if they're an English club it's FA arbitration and if they're anywhere else it's FIFA arbitration which means we get about 50p but the satisfaction of him not going to Liverpool
Odoi is a big loss
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 12:12:17 AM
Sylvester Jasper has gone to Hibs on loan
Good move for him although there's an option to buy which isn't so great.
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Odoi is a big loss
Fantastic servant to the club and great squad player at this level. Will miss him for sure.
Has Cav and Knocks gone yet?
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Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 12:10:01 AM
You're not able to sign a pre-contract agreement under the age of 21 with any team irrespective of the country they're in
Apologies if I was wrong on this given Fabio's age. So then I have no idea what happens here.
Don't apologise, the whole thing is murky as hell!
Fulham twitter about to announce right back
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1488306138546327560
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
After 60 posts, thats quite a claim.
ITKs here generally are just that. Doesn't mean that they will always get it right (these situations are fluid), but they know what's what.
Quote from: St Eve on February 01, 2022, 12:18:21 AM
Odoi is a big loss
He's not - Saturday showed what a liability he'd become; slow and poor in possession and caught out of position too
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
Maybe the fact we got another RB coming in allowed Denis to leave now, the fact there was a deal shows he had some info, there may well have been a 2nd player but deals aren't easily done, ask Liverpool. If you don't like don't read his post or don't bother reading a transfer thread
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
He had another mare didn't he 😟
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1488307423802761223
someone replay to the tweet from that Liverpool fan about pulling the plug on this deal, looks like we've done it to them
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on February 01, 2022, 12:25:02 AM
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
After 60 posts, thats quite a claim.
ITKs here generally are just that. Doesn't mean that they will always get it right (these situations are fluid), but they know what's what.
Not sure why the amount of posts I've made is relevant but fair enough, fully appreciate that they are putting their necks on the line and football transfers are ever-changing. My point is simply frustration at someone clearly pretending to be ITK, take a look back at their posts and you will see they have never called something which hadn't already been leaked to the press
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 12:25:48 AM
Quote from: St Eve on February 01, 2022, 12:18:21 AM
Odoi is a big loss
He's not - Saturday showed what a liability he'd become; slow and poor in possession and caught out of position too
And at many times this season he has been excellent.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
As usual, ignore the one person that thinks he knows better, the rest of us are grateful, we appreciate that not all info will be 100% accurate as its probably 3rd hand info from someone up the club picking up tits bits unless your mates with TK
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
fcuk sake, this was always going to happen. Thanks for the info you've provided in good faith, WSW I for one have found it brilliant.
I'm so sorry that arseholes felt the need to score points from you for whatever reason at every step of the way.
Another one bites the dust, lads. Well done.
Sad on behalf of Denis that is last game wasn't his finest showing. Wonderful servant to the club and I hope he enjoys the rest of his career in Belgium
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
I don't blame you WSW, but it is a pity that a few gripers spoil what is a useful thread
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
Sorry to hear that. I find your posts very informative. Ignore the know it alls
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 12:25:48 AM
Quote from: St Eve on February 01, 2022, 12:18:21 AM
Odoi is a big loss
He's not - Saturday showed what a liability he'd become; slow and poor in possession and caught out of position too
he actually is and under appreciated
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on February 01, 2022, 12:25:02 AM
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
After 60 posts, thats quite a claim.
ITKs here generally are just that. Doesn't mean that they will always get it right (these situations are fluid), but they know what's what.
Not sure why the amount of posts I've made is relevant but fair enough, fully appreciate that they are putting their necks on the line and football transfers are ever-changing. My point is simply frustration at someone clearly pretending to be ITK, take a look back at their posts and you will see they have never called something which hadn't already been leaked to the press
What an I'll informed clown you are . WSW has
Been on here for years and has given lots of itk info that has proved to be solid. You come along and after 60 posts have managed to upset the man. Well done coco.
Dennis out and Neco in.
Thank you Dennis for 5.5 years. Really hope we get a chance to say goodbye properly.
Said it a few times on here, I just hadn't feeling that Fabio would stay. I believe he'll sign a new contract with the club after we win the league.
Well now that's over but you want to continue and have a bit of fun, or are unhappy with our incoming flood of players, have a look at the long list of free agents;
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=2021&yt0=Show
Carlos Tevez anyone? Oh, and before anyone replies, it isn't a serious suggestion :hook:.
Did any club in the league sign someone that we would have wanted (on the same terms)?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/transfers/wettbewerb/GB2/plus/?saison_id=2021&s_w=w&leihe=3&intern=0
Maybe one or two but not any deal that i REALLY wanted us to get instead.
Not having loads of new average players will make it so much easier IF we go up.
Quote from: St Eve on February 01, 2022, 12:35:57 AM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
Sorry to hear that. I find your posts very informative. Ignore the know it alls
:plus one:
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2022, 11:18:46 PM
Excellent
Anything better then letting him go to that cheat of a club!
If he's not happy about it - tough
+1
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Bang on Denver. Not the best deal for FFC. We had him for the season +8 Mil now we go to tribunal and get virtually nothing. Scumpool will say he had 6 months left on his contract now he's out and value is considerably down. Now i hope he goes anywhere other than there even if we only get 400,000 like we did for Moussa MK2.
Quote from: Blawarmy on February 01, 2022, 12:12:24 AM
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 01, 2022, 12:11:07 AM
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1488302698420125696?s=20&t=BsiwdVRhFj7f2T7F6emJzQ
Thank you Denis. Smashing bloke. Good luck fella.
Fully endorsed not the greatest but fully committed every game. Enjoy the rest of your career/life young man.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
That is sad news WSW. Don't let a couple of no nothing poo's spoil it for your supporters. I for one thank you very much for your contribution over the years.
Thankyou mod. couldn't spell poo.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 01, 2022, 12:29:45 AM
Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen
WSW - I'm not worried if your information is 100% wrong. It's all a bit of fun and adds intrigue to the final day's events - events over which none of us have any say but events on which we all have plenty to say 😂
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on February 01, 2022, 12:25:02 AM
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
ridiculous post, WSW is normally on the money and is simply relaying what he has heard from a source, stop going after people who are just fans and trying to inform.
After 60 posts, thats quite a claim.
ITKs here generally are just that. Doesn't mean that they will always get it right (these situations are fluid), but they know what's what.
Not sure why the amount of posts I've made is relevant but fair enough, fully appreciate that they are putting their necks on the line and football transfers are ever-changing. My point is simply frustration at someone clearly pretending to be ITK, take a look back at their posts and you will see they have never called something which hadn't already been leaked to the press
Quote from: ianthailand on February 01, 2022, 04:46:49 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Bang on Denver. Not the best deal for FFC. We had him for the season +8 Mil now we go to tribunal and get virtually nothing. Scumpool will say he had 6 months left on his contract now he's out and value is considerably down. Now i hope he goes anywhere other than there even if we only get 400,000 like we did for Moussa MK2.
If he leaves England the fee will be smaller for sure, but if he stays we will get a fee similar if not more than we did for Elliott. Could be more as he has played more games than Elliott I believe.
Please don't stop WSW - your posts are genuinely appreciated. Those that are critical simply don't have the brain power to understand the complexities of the situation - their problem not yours
Quote from: HV71 on February 01, 2022, 07:07:12 AM
Please don't stop WSW - your posts are genuinely appreciated. Those that are critical simply don't have the brain power to understand the complexities of the situation - their problem not yours
You could sign a player yourself and people would question you... ignore them.. your input is very much appreciated 👏 👍
"Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen"
WSW - you have absolutely nothing for which to apologise. The BBC no less got it wrong when stating the Cav deal was over the line. It is clear that even when a deal is being worked on, it is not done until the contract is finally signed.
Like others who have posted, I find your info on what those within the Club are thinking/trying to get done interesting and hope you won't let a couple of negative posts stop you sharing it with us again as and when appropriate.
Quote from: ianthailand on February 01, 2022, 04:46:49 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
I don't know why people are celebrating this. We may have just biffed 8m and have a ticked-off key player.
It's fun to laugh at Liverpool, but we could come out of this badly. Why does every window end up with a deal falling through because we fail to get paperwork done in time?
Bang on Denver. Not the best deal for FFC. We had him for the season +8 Mil now we go to tribunal and get virtually nothing. Scumpool will say he had 6 months left on his contract now he's out and value is considerably down. Now i hope he goes anywhere other than there even if we only get 400,000 like we did for Moussa MK2.
Who know how this will end up, something may click into place and he could sign another contract with us. Football can be quite unpredictable. It's important we are not seen as a soft touch, this was a good window, could have maybe done with a few more out but we have quality in every position with quality backup. Fab is one player that would be very difficult to replace esp in the championship. Quinna was suppose to have been an under study and failed badly. Let Fab help us get promoted and worry about the rest after that.
Quote from: Oakeshott on February 01, 2022, 08:09:48 AM
"Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen"
WSW - you have absolutely nothing for which to apologise. The BBC no less got it wrong when stating the Cav deal was over the line. It is clear that even when a deal is being worked on, it is not done until the contract is finally signed.
Like others who have posted, I find your info on what those within the Club are thinking/trying to get done interesting and hope you won't let a couple of negative posts stop you sharing it with us again as and when appropriate.
Don't let the idiots stop you, it's only one or two, 95% of fans love reading these posts. Many fans on here never post just read and enjoy the speculation, my Dad being one of them and he is 91 years old.
Most of us know that a deal is never done until all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed. Most of us understand that speculation is just that, speculation. WSW helps to make this thread interesting and enjoyable and to the best of my knowledge has never claimed to be 100% accurate. For those that don't appreciate him why not ignore or even block his messages and let the rest of us take his information for what it is. I for one hope WSW changes his mind and ignores the tiny percentage who do not appreciate him.
Quote from: StuinSalop on February 01, 2022, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: Oakeshott on February 01, 2022, 08:09:48 AM
"Sorry all misinformed about Williams possibly falling through. I've decided I'm not going to post anymore stuff in here now as tbh it's not worth the aggro. If anyone wants anything feel free to message me but I'm just a bit fed up having to justify myself every time it doesn't quite happen as I say it might happen"
WSW - you have absolutely nothing for which to apologise. The BBC no less got it wrong when stating the Cav deal was over the line. It is clear that even when a deal is being worked on, it is not done until the contract is finally signed.
Like others who have posted, I find your info on what those within the Club are thinking/trying to get done interesting and hope you won't let a couple of negative posts stop you sharing it with us again as and when appropriate.
Don't let the idiots stop you, it's only one or two, 95% of fans love reading these posts. Many fans on here never post just read and enjoy the speculation, my Dad being one of them and he is 91 years old.
+1
As we all know, in the transfer market, particularly at the end, deals can change in a trice. Also appreciate the WSW's input - if things suddenly change then it can't bee oddsed! As we all know, he market is never straightforward & heightened by heresay reported!
I do enjoy reading them WSW but if you put your neck on the line, people will always criticise sadly.
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on February 01, 2022, 12:25:02 AM
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
After 60 posts, thats quite a claim.
ITKs here generally are just that. Doesn't mean that they will always get it right (these situations are fluid), but they know what's what.
Not sure why the amount of posts I've made is relevant but fair enough, fully appreciate that they are putting their necks on the line and football transfers are ever-changing. My point is simply frustration at someone clearly pretending to be ITK, take a look back at their posts and you will see they have never called something which hadn't already been leaked to the press
Rather than all the gullible turning on Joe to defend W.S.W why don't you simply point him to one single post (just one 🤔, ) on this entire thread where W.S.W brought you genuine ITK information, bet you can't do it !
Did he tell us about S.Sessegnon, Neco Williams, Odoi ?
W.S.W is the Russell Grant of this message board, and like Grant he has plenty of supporters though they also couldn't justify why,
So get off Joe's back and take W.S.W for what he is, now where's those tea leaves I wanted him to read 🙃
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
Well done....now you've chased WSW off from sharing what he knows with us. We like his little updates every now and again.
Bravo JoeS :031:
Quote from: Tabby on January 31, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on January 31, 2022, 08:49:06 PM
Bournemouth obviously think they didn't have enough and signing players (lots on deadline day) to try and get them over the line this season. Seems a bit scattergun.
Seem to recall that Parker blamed that exact kind of behaviour for his failures a year ago.
Exactly that and went on and on about how it had to change. kieffer Moore for gods sake not even good enough to lace Mitros boots the player he refused to play.
Quote from Riversider
" W.S.W is the Russell Grant of this message board, and like Grant he has plenty of supporters"
At least you will never suffer that fate Riversider
Quote from: Riversider on February 01, 2022, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on February 01, 2022, 12:25:02 AM
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
After 60 posts, thats quite a claim.
ITKs here generally are just that. Doesn't mean that they will always get it right (these situations are fluid), but they know what's what.
Not sure why the amount of posts I've made is relevant but fair enough, fully appreciate that they are putting their necks on the line and football transfers are ever-changing. My point is simply frustration at someone clearly pretending to be ITK, take a look back at their posts and you will see they have never called something which hadn't already been leaked to the press
Rather than all the gullible turning on Joe to defend W.S.W why don't you simply point him to one single post (just one 🤔, ) on this entire thread where W.S.W brought you genuine ITK information, bet you can't do it !
Did he tell us about S.Sessegnon, Neco Williams, Odoi ?
W.S.W is the Russell Grant of this message board, and like Grant he has plenty of supporters though they also couldn't justify why,
So get off Joe's back and take W.S.W for what he is, now where's those tea leaves I wanted him to read 🙃
Well that is very helpful...NOT!
Joe can has his views as can you, but to come on and criticise other Fulham fans postings is just totally unhelpful. If you don't agree with someone that is fine but you have no idea about WSW so don't assume things you know nothing about. I bet you 95% of Fulham fans on here really look forward to his posts, I do, it adds to the fun and that what this should be all about, not having a go at each other. Sorry if you think I am having a go at you, I don't mean too, just trying to give the other side of the debate. If you don't like what someone is saying of course say so, it's all about opinions but don't diss them at the same time.
Let me preface this by saying, I like any information, anyone finds on this thread. The whole point of it is to scour the internet and contacts for information, be it, Koumas to Fulham or Bale to Fulham. The point of the post is, its meant to be entertaining. For what its worth, I love the fact WSW posts what he's seen among other posters. BUT, and its a big but, I have noticed the last 2 windows have been......lacking in regards to things materialising as they have been posted.
I know someone who works at Fulham, lets on a little, but not a lot, and I also have a friend who works at Liverpool so both were feeding me relatively similar information in regards to Fabio and Neco. Both of which were contradicted by some of the posts on here. I hedged my bets and didn't get stuck in as I don't know who other people's contacts are. If I was in other peoples shoes after these last two windows, I'd probably reconsider the reliability of said source(s) especially after the Neco one. We were actively doing all the press conference and it had been signed when he posted it has fallen through. That's just a journalist trying to sensationalise a transfer for a few minutes on skysports. Maybe I'm wrong, but a lot of said info was off the mark again this window.
That's not a criticism. Markets change and whatnot, but part of that Neco post was clearly and I know 100% wrong so wasn't a 'well the thing is, transfers are tricky' situation. Don't stop posting, even wrong information is entertainment on the silly season post but I will say, I think its a tad brittle to just up tools and leave because ultimately, you put your neck out and was wrong a few times. It happens. But its all part of the fun.
Quote from: Wingnut on January 31, 2022, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: LVBPT on January 31, 2022, 11:24:10 PM
Neco Williams [emoji6]
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Cant defend according to my Liverpool mates.
i meant it was done
Always amazed at this board, it seems to take one side or the other just for a row. The post above from ffc1987 I believe a fair reflection, I personally lose confidence with itk posters when they talk about agreed salaries, this is never in the public domain and is speculation unless you have seen the contracts which would mean the source is at an unbelievable level.
Think all need to chill out a bit, if he's wrong does it really matter that much 🙈
Quote from: Andyb on February 01, 2022, 10:00:52 AM
Think all need to chill out a bit, if he's wrong does it really matter that much 🙈
Did we sign Jason Koumas in the end?
Ah, Bournemouth probably did instead.....
Quote from: JoeS on February 01, 2022, 12:23:02 AM
Great deadline day for us in the end. Key position addressed, youngsters loaned out, somehow kept Fabio.
One thing from me, stop giving attention to so called "in the knows".
We were told by a certain someone that Odoi wouldn't leave until the summer. We were also told that Williams deal looked like being off MINUTES before it was officially announced and that a second player was in the pipeline (spoiler alert, there was never another player close to joining today)
He may not always be proved right but that in no way shows that he doesn't have a degree of inside knowledge. It just means that WSW's information wasn't correct on this occasion. Let's be honest, he was bang on two weeks ago about Mitro and Wilson's Covid enforced absences.
I come on here to get information,which saves me doing the legwork someone else has been done.So keep it coming I say cheers
We are weaker now than we were . Certainly no improvement and while others gamble on new players we gamble on hanging on with what we have and selling a utility player who was useful and bringing in a loan player who may or may not be any good.
As for the rumours and the 'In the Knows' and the speculation. If people don't like it or criticise those that bother to give up information and rumours they hear and know about. Then my suggestion is you just don't bother to come on MBs during transfer deadline day. Half the fun is reading all the gossip. If we end up with snide remarks attacking people for their comments about what they hear and other rumours. Then this place will be a sad little husk of a corpse rotting into the Earth of forgotten hope.
Don't like the rubbish as well as the over the top comments? Well don't read them and you can always make sure you never read them again. By stopping seeing their posts. It is simple to do.
Pleased with that window.
We have simply replaced Odoi with a young Welsh international and kept all of our key players, Carvalho in particular.
Our settled first choice line up can now approach the remaining 18 Championship matches with confidence.
Well done TK in pulling a sharp one on Liverpool in the Carvalho matter.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2022, 10:16:54 AM
We are weaker now than we were . Certainly no improvement and while others gamble on new players we gamble on hanging on with what we have and selling a utility player who was useful and bringing in a
We replaced a near 34 year old full back with someone much younger and more mobile, not sure how that makes us weaker? Bournemouth have signed 5 championship calibre players in a desperate attempt to gamble on promotion and if anything it destabilises their squad.
If Fab goes for free so be it. It's great to set a precedent that young players and other teams can't bully us. Will probably save us way more than 5/8m in the future.
I would imagine we agreed to let Odoi go at his request, rather than seeking to move him on proactively. He may be getting on in years but he has played enough games this year ahead of Christie, Sessegnon and even Tete at times to show that Silva valued him.
I don't see Odoi and Williams as like for like really, the latter is a wing-back cum winger and not a natural defender like Odoi. For me, Tete still starts in front of Williams when fit, but Williams could be a useful option from the bench to add another dimension to our attack.
The other possibility is Silva wants a more attack minded right back and he will get games in front of Tete. Tete is an excellent defender and has a good cross, but he is naturally quite conservative, and will often get the ball in the last third and pass back into midfield rather than attempt a cross or dribble. Williams would be more direct and allow Wilson to float inside while he bombs down the line as an overlap.
similar thing happened with David De Gea to Real Madrid and hes still at Man United
So how much 'dead wood' did we manage to offload?
A real shame that we didn't get Kongolo a load deal as he REALLY needs game time to show us he can stay fit
(there is no doubt about his quality)
Quote from: Jeroen on February 01, 2022, 10:57:27 AM
So how much 'dead wood' did we manage to offload?
A real shame that we didn't get Kongolo a load deal as he REALLY needs game time to show us he can stay fit
(there is no doubt about his quality)
Is the European market closed now? Could he get a loan deal back to Holland?
Quote from: Jeroen on February 01, 2022, 10:57:27 AM
So how much 'dead wood' did we manage to offload?
A real shame that we didn't get Kongolo a load deal as he REALLY needs game time to show us he can stay fit
(there is no doubt about his quality)
Dead wood is harsh
But 4 1st team squad members left
Odoi - will be missed
Christie
Sess - as a loan needs playing time
Quina - wasn't up to it
I agree would have been great to get Kongolo out as a loan
Can we move him to the U-23s to get playing time ?
Kongolo now has to start playing games, Ned needs to show what he still has, is he the same player he once was or have the injuries done for him. A loan, under 23's, whatever... he needs game time.
Mawson is similar, when was the last time he played 90 mins?
I suspect a massive issue is salaries of these guys which other clubs just can't get close too. Does Silva think Kongolo is close to being on the bench I wonder? I would be very tempted to start him at city if he is anywhere near ready.... Wha is there to lose?
Quote from: bencher on February 01, 2022, 10:49:18 AM
I would imagine we agreed to let Odoi go at his request, rather than seeking to move him on proactively. He may be getting on in years but he has played enough games this year ahead of Christie, Sessegnon and even Tete at times to show that Silva valued him.
I don't see Odoi and Williams as like for like really, the latter is a wing-back cum winger and not a natural defender like Odoi. For me, Tete still starts in front of Williams when fit, but Williams could be a useful option from the bench to add another dimension to our attack.
The other possibility is Silva wants a more attack minded right back and he will get games in front of Tete. Tete is an excellent defender and has a good cross, but he is naturally quite conservative, and will often get the ball in the last third and pass back into midfield rather than attempt a cross or dribble. Williams would be more direct and allow Wilson to float inside while he bombs down the line as an overlap.
Was offered a 5.5 year contract according to all reports - at 33 that's an incredible offer of financial stability so would have been morally wrong for the club to stand in his way - especially such a good servant to the club as him with all his Fulham Foundation work.
Top guy and still a good FB at this level - has had (minus his last game) a good season as well, really vying with Tete for the RB spot over the last few games when both were fit (Tete definitely a better player at Prem level before anyone starts). Some of the "past it/out of his depth" comments on here way off the mark.
All the best Denis - been a fantastic servant as I say and joins the likes of Volz, Paintsil and Bairdinho on the recent list of Fulhamish fullbacks with a bit a cult following.
Quote from: Count Flapula on February 01, 2022, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: bencher on February 01, 2022, 10:49:18 AM
I would imagine we agreed to let Odoi go at his request, rather than seeking to move him on proactively. He may be getting on in years but he has played enough games this year ahead of Christie, Sessegnon and even Tete at times to show that Silva valued him.
I don't see Odoi and Williams as like for like really, the latter is a wing-back cum winger and not a natural defender like Odoi. For me, Tete still starts in front of Williams when fit, but Williams could be a useful option from the bench to add another dimension to our attack.
The other possibility is Silva wants a more attack minded right back and he will get games in front of Tete. Tete is an excellent defender and has a good cross, but he is naturally quite conservative, and will often get the ball in the last third and pass back into midfield rather than attempt a cross or dribble. Williams would be more direct and allow Wilson to float inside while he bombs down the line as an overlap.
Was offered a 5.5 year contract according to all reports - at 33 that's an incredible offer of financial stability so would have been morally wrong for the club to stand in his way - especially such a good servant to the club as him with all his Fulham Foundation work.
Top guy and still a good FB at this level - has had (minus his last game) a good season as well, really vying with Tete for the RB spot over the last few games when both were fit (Tete definitely a better player at Prem level before anyone starts). Some of the "past it/out of his depth" comments on here way off the mark.
All the best Denis - been a fantastic servant as I say and joins the likes of Volz, Paintsil and Bairdinho on the recent list of Fulhamish fullbacks with a bit a cult following.
I am fairly sure, well 99% certain Denis's deal with Club Brugge is till the end of 2024
I think the 5.5 years is how long he has been with us, not the length of his new contract in Belgium.
Quote from: Oakeshott on February 01, 2022, 04:27:20 PM
I think the 5.5 years is how long he has been with us, not the length of his new contract in Belgium.
That makes more sense, the Brugge website says deal till end of 2024 season for Dennis
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2022, 10:16:54 AM
We are weaker now than we were . Certainly no improvement and while others gamble on new players we gamble on hanging on with what we have and selling a utility player who was useful and bringing in a
We replaced a near 34 year old full back with someone much younger and more mobile, not sure how that makes us weaker? Bournemouth have signed 5 championship calibre players in a desperate attempt to gamble on promotion and if anything it destabilises their squad.
Well we replaced a near 34 year old, experienced utility defender with a kid. So I am not sure it makes us anything but weaker. But time will tell. But as I said in the original post others have GAMBLED on bringing in new players and we GAMBLED on not bringing in new players.
Didn't see a move for the star striker at Blackburn, if they've kept him that's a huge boost for them.
(https://images.webapi.fulhamfc.com/fit-in/1400x1400/bdceec30-8380-11ec-8639-1701619522b0.jpg)
"So Part 1 went off perfectly.
Part 2 - at the end of the season you go to Everton...That'll really p1ss them off."
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2022, 09:32:37 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2022, 10:16:54 AM
We are weaker now than we were . Certainly no improvement and while others gamble on new players we gamble on hanging on with what we have and selling a utility player who was useful and bringing in a
We replaced a near 34 year old full back with someone much younger and more mobile, not sure how that makes us weaker? Bournemouth have signed 5 championship calibre players in a desperate attempt to gamble on promotion and if anything it destabilises their squad.
Well we replaced a near 34 year old, experienced utility defender with a kid. So I am not sure it makes us anything but weaker. But time will tell. But as I said in the original post others have GAMBLED on bringing in new players and we GAMBLED on not bringing in new players.
Good grief, I despair sometimes 🙄
Quote from: Riversider on February 02, 2022, 12:01:56 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2022, 09:32:37 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 01, 2022, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2022, 10:16:54 AM
We are weaker now than we were . Certainly no improvement and while others gamble on new players we gamble on hanging on with what we have and selling a utility player who was useful and bringing in a
We replaced a near 34 year old full back with someone much younger and more mobile, not sure how that makes us weaker? Bournemouth have signed 5 championship calibre players in a desperate attempt to gamble on promotion and if anything it destabilises their squad.
Well we replaced a near 34 year old, experienced utility defender with a kid. So I am not sure it makes us anything but weaker. But time will tell. But as I said in the original post others have GAMBLED on bringing in new players and we GAMBLED on not bringing in new players.
Good grief, I despair sometimes 🙄
Now you know how the rest of us feel! :022:
Anyone see that josh maja gone to stoke?
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on February 01, 2022, 07:14:29 AM
Quote from: HV71 on February 01, 2022, 07:07:12 AM
Please don't stop WSW - your posts are genuinely appreciated. Those that are critical simply don't have the brain power to understand the complexities of the situation - their problem not yours
You could sign a player yourself and people would question you... ignore them.. your input is very much appreciated 👏 👍
Totally agree.
Anyone see that josh maja gone to stoke?
Just shows that he was no5 Premiership standard.
Quote from: Jeroen on February 01, 2022, 10:57:27 AM
So how much 'dead wood' did we manage to offload?
A real shame that we didn't get Kongolo a load deal as he REALLY needs game time to show us he can stay fit
(there is no doubt about his quality)
We might actually have kept his as the 9th defender and 5th CB in the end given that we offloaded - Odoi, Christie, Fossey and Sess. Think we would have demanded a RLC type deal with any borrowing club; that you play him or you cover most/all of the salary.