The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19
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So, here it is Ladies and Gentleman, the one you've all been waiting for, The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19.
Please use this thread to post any transfer rumours that maybe flying around on social media, the press, or from reporters.
This thread is always intended to be a bit of fun, however, we all know there will be a lot of rubbish, rehashed reports flying around, so please read everything with a pinch of salt.
I believe so actually. How long before the first Sess or Cairney rumour comes along?
Let's get in the premiership first. Then the rumours might be more interesting
FULHAM SET TO BATTLE WITH SERIE A SIDE IN PURSUIT OF IN-DEMAND MIDFIELDER
Fulham are one of a number of clubs interested in signing Auxerre midfielder Ousoumane Camara this summer, according to reports emerging from France.
French media outlet France Football is reporting that Fulham are joined by a number of European clubs in the hunt for Camara, who will be available on a free transfer this summer when his contract expires with Auxerre.
Serie A side Genoa – who are set to finish in mid-table in the Italian top tier – are also keen on the midfielder with Belgian outfit Sint-Truidense V.V. reportedly set to make a move too.
Camara is yet to make his first-team debut for Auxerre – who finished 11th in Ligue 2 – but he is the captain of their reserve side.
But with the 19-year-old's contract coming to an end, Fulham could make a move for him, although they face competition from Genoa, Sint-Truidense and a number of Ligue 2 sides.
Fulham are currently vying for a spot in the Premier League as they go through the Championship play-offs, having fallen just short of automatic promotion on the final day of the season.
The Cottagers trail Derby County by one goal going into the second leg at Craven Cottage and they face an uphill task to reverse the deficit and book their place in the final at Wembley.
The Verdict
Camara is highly-rated in France but he lacks first-team experience.
If he arrived at Fulham, he would definitely go straight into the academy set-up rather than compete for a first-team spot.
But on a free transfer and regarding him as one for the future, this is a low risk move which could pay off long-term.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-set-to-battle-with-serie-a-side-in-pursuit-of-in-demand-midfielder/
Quote from: Barrett487 on May 17, 2018, 06:31:36 PM
FULHAM SET TO BATTLE WITH SERIE A SIDE IN PURSUIT OF IN-DEMAND MIDFIELDER
Fulham are one of a number of clubs interested in signing Auxerre midfielder Ousoumane Camara this summer, according to reports emerging from France.
French media outlet France Football is reporting that Fulham are joined by a number of European clubs in the hunt for Camara, who will be available on a free transfer this summer when his contract expires with Auxerre.
Serie A side Genoa – who are set to finish in mid-table in the Italian top tier – are also keen on the midfielder with Belgian outfit Sint-Truidense V.V. reportedly set to make a move too.
Camara is yet to make his first-team debut for Auxerre – who finished 11th in Ligue 2 – but he is the captain of their reserve side.
But with the 19-year-old's contract coming to an end, Fulham could make a move for him, although they face competition from Genoa, Sint-Truidense and a number of Ligue 2 sides.
Fulham are currently vying for a spot in the Premier League as they go through the Championship play-offs, having fallen just short of automatic promotion on the final day of the season.
The Cottagers trail Derby County by one goal going into the second leg at Craven Cottage and they face an uphill task to reverse the deficit and book their place in the final at Wembley.
The Verdict
Camara is highly-rated in France but he lacks first-team experience.
If he arrived at Fulham, he would definitely go straight into the academy set-up rather than compete for a first-team spot.
But on a free transfer and regarding him as one for the future, this is a low risk move which could pay off long-term.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-set-to-battle-with-serie-a-side-in-pursuit-of-in-demand-midfielder/
Don't know if we can accept this,as its maybe not time to start the thread yet...Stewards Enquiry.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 17, 2018, 06:33:55 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on May 17, 2018, 06:31:36 PM
FULHAM SET TO BATTLE WITH SERIE A SIDE IN PURSUIT OF IN-DEMAND MIDFIELDER
Fulham are one of a number of clubs interested in signing Auxerre midfielder Ousoumane Camara this summer, according to reports emerging from France.
French media outlet France Football is reporting that Fulham are joined by a number of European clubs in the hunt for Camara, who will be available on a free transfer this summer when his contract expires with Auxerre.
Serie A side Genoa – who are set to finish in mid-table in the Italian top tier – are also keen on the midfielder with Belgian outfit Sint-Truidense V.V. reportedly set to make a move too.
Camara is yet to make his first-team debut for Auxerre – who finished 11th in Ligue 2 – but he is the captain of their reserve side.
But with the 19-year-old's contract coming to an end, Fulham could make a move for him, although they face competition from Genoa, Sint-Truidense and a number of Ligue 2 sides.
Fulham are currently vying for a spot in the Premier League as they go through the Championship play-offs, having fallen just short of automatic promotion on the final day of the season.
The Cottagers trail Derby County by one goal going into the second leg at Craven Cottage and they face an uphill task to reverse the deficit and book their place in the final at Wembley.
The Verdict
Camara is highly-rated in France but he lacks first-team experience.
If he arrived at Fulham, he would definitely go straight into the academy set-up rather than compete for a first-team spot.
But on a free transfer and regarding him as one for the future, this is a low risk move which could pay off long-term.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-set-to-battle-with-serie-a-side-in-pursuit-of-in-demand-midfielder/
Don't know if we can accept this,as its maybe not time to start the thread yet...Stewards Enquiry.
We seem to go through phases of only buying players with the same name though so this is probably a fair shout. Albeit I'm not sure I can recognise it as it's too early to be thinking transfers until we know which league we will be in!
Is it time for transfer rumours?????
Of course it is !!!!
If we lose the final it will be dispiriting and if we win so exciting.
Premier League is world class and our recruitment also needs to be.
Currently swinging wildly between, absolute pessimisism and fantastic optimism.
Do not think we are set up to be - score and shut up shop but they might be...... 4-0 by ht would be nice lads.
COYW
What do you think is our priority? For me it's signing Mitro, LB, CB, and RW.
What we need / Who we sign depends if we go up or down
It is too early. First we must wait the outcome of the play-off final.
If we stay in the championship than we must build again a new team. But if we go up than we are an attractive club to join. And to hold on our best players
Ask again on the evening of the 26th
Quote from: @jolslover on May 17, 2018, 08:48:36 PM
What we need / Who we sign depends if we go up or down
Not often we agree Jols, but spot on there, our club needs to have an A and B transfer plan.
It's only 8 days, both we and the club can wait on the outcome.
All minds have to be concentrated on Wembley , forget transfers until after that match.
Well.... how about now?:D
BBC website has released lists appearing, could be interesting
Matty Smith to Barnsley.
Grealish to Wolves.
Talksport.
Will we finally sign David Bentley?
It's going to be a very interesting summer, with speculation almost every day as the season approaches.
At the moment I just cannot get yesterday's scenes out of my mind. I cannot take anything else in, let's enjoy these moments, they don't come round too often.
Three or four world class signings we give us a stable base in The Prem.
I do have my thoughts on where we need to strengthen, but today must be the day we celebrate with this fabulous group of players.
Newly promoted Premier League side Fulham are considering making a summer move for AJ Auxerre midfielder Lamine Fomba.
The London outfit edged out Aston Villa in the Championship playoff final with a narrow 1-0 win on Saturday at Wembley to book their place in next season's Premier League.
Fulham joined Wolves and Cardiff in the top tier for next term and the club are already planning their summer recruitment as they look to build a squad good enough to survive in the top flight.
Owner Shahid Khan is expected to back manager Slavisa Jokanovic in the market and it has been claimed that the Cottagers are looking at France to bring in players for their squad.
According to French sports daily L'Equipe, Auxerre midfielder Fomba has emerged as a target for Fulham, who are aware of the need to add steel to the middle of the park.
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/05/27/fulham-showing-interest-in-french-defensive-midfielder/376715/#ixzz5GkeeQJnK
Quote from: Barrett487 on May 28, 2018, 01:25:18 AM
Newly promoted Premier League side Fulham are considering making a summer move for AJ Auxerre midfielder Lamine Fomba.
The London outfit edged out Aston Villa in the Championship playoff final with a narrow 1-0 win on Saturday at Wembley to book their place in next season's Premier League.
Fulham joined Wolves and Cardiff in the top tier for next term and the club are already planning their summer recruitment as they look to build a squad good enough to survive in the top flight.
Owner Shahid Khan is expected to back manager Slavisa Jokanovic in the market and it has been claimed that the Cottagers are looking at France to bring in players for their squad.
According to French sports daily L'Equipe, Auxerre midfielder Fomba has emerged as a target for Fulham, who are aware of the need to add steel to the middle of the park.
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/05/27/fulham-showing-interest-in-french-defensive-midfielder/376715/#ixzz5GkeeQJnK
6 appearances only, not sure on this one.
Diego Rolan anyone? :005:
Quote from: OMalleyCat on May 28, 2018, 03:11:17 AM
Diego Rolan anyone? :005:
Poor old Diego didn't have a great time of it after turning us down. He got 2 goals in LaLiga after Christmas but had a load of injury problems. His club were relegated. He didn't make the Uruguay WC squad.
The bloke we did get netted 12 goals for a team that got promotion and is off to Russia with Serbia.
Still, ne'er mind, eh?
Quote from: cmg on May 28, 2018, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on May 28, 2018, 03:11:17 AM
Diego Rolan anyone? :005:
Poor old Diego didn't have a great time of it after turning us down. He got 2 goals in LaLiga after Christmas but had a load of injury problems. His club were relegated. He didn't make the Uruguay WC squad.
The bloke we did get netted 12 goals for a team that got promotion and is off to Russia with Serbia.
Still, ne'er mind, eh?
I mean, the bloke we got instead was Fonte, who managed a mighty 3 goals for one of the top scoring sides in the championship.
Quote from: Tabby on May 28, 2018, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: cmg on May 28, 2018, 10:40:50 AM
Poor old Diego didn't have a great time of it after turning us down....
The bloke we did get netted 12 goals for a team that got promotion and is off to Russia with Serbia.
Still, ne'er mind, eh?
I mean, the bloke we got instead was Fonte, who managed a mighty 3 goals for one of the top scoring sides in the championship.
Ah, yes. Must be getting me windows confused.
At least Rui looks happy.
Mitrovic & Targett should be the first signings. Followed by Norwood a dominant CB & a strong creative CMF. Love Johansen but we should aim for the next class above.
Bryan Swanson (40.2k followers)
@Bryan_SkySports
#FFC #NUFC Permanent deal for Mitrovic looking extremely likely. Source close to the club says they intend on doing business quickly.
Dean Jones of Bleacher Report, who's also a Fulham supporter claims that we want Aden Flint this summer.
On a side note, Shaqiri's relegation clause at Stoke means that he's available for £12m which is something I think we should look at, seeing as we need a good RW this summer.
Quote from: Deeping_white on May 29, 2018, 10:56:55 AM
Dean Jones of Bleacher Report, who's also a Fulham supporter claims that we want Aden Flint this summer.
On a side note, Shaqiri's relegation clause at Stoke means that he's available for £12m which is something I think we should look at, seeing as we need a good RW this summer.
I think we should be aiming higher than Flint imo.
Aden Flint is very high, he has to be at least 6ft 5ins from the ground, which makes him very tall for his height.
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on May 29, 2018, 11:14:14 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on May 29, 2018, 10:56:55 AM
Dean Jones of Bleacher Report, who's also a Fulham supporter claims that we want Aden Flint this summer.
I think we should be aiming higher than Flint imo.
Me, too. A decent CB, Flint, not very mobile, he would give us something a bit different. But, at this stage, I'd sooner see us aiming for a bit better quality than an English CB from the Championship who has never interested the England set up (England C is for non-league players).
Flint has been linked with us quite often, so I focused on him when we played Bristol City. Dominant in the air, but doesn't have the composure to play it out of the back. In fact, I remember two occasions where he booted the ball out of play without being pressured at all. Also remember him being turned around easily by Sess. Don't think he is much better than Dan Burn and doesn't fit our style, even though his aerial presence is elite.
Shaqiri would be amazing and show real intend by Mr Khan. Obviously he'll only come at a huge wage, but that's what the PL is all about. Anytime I looked up PL scores this season, Shaqiri has been involved in all Stoke goals despite being part of a horrible side. He is a headcase but pure quality. He has the edge and special flair that can decide a game. Also RW is a big need for us. Maybe Jokane could bring the best out of him just like with Mitro. Of course we could buy 3 highly talented wingers from France for the price tag of Shaqiri. But he is a proven worldclass player who has been one of the best in the PL in recent years. Stoke being relegated is a huge opportunity to snap him up.
Linked to this guy again (HITC though who are a joke / straw-clutching fantasists): http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/29/por-fulham-fancy-bristol-city-ace-flint/
Personally I'd like to see us go for ball playing CBs with proven Prem experience such as Alfie Mawson and (maybe at a stretch) Jonny Evans - both in relegated teams so maybe more willing to switch to us? Jonny Evans would command high wages (not sure on contract length so can't comment of transfer fee), but is a leader / is underrated as a ball player and would certainly improve our team - should Kahn match his comments about willingness to meet our managers ambition in the transfer market.
Further to the Mitro thing, GWL or Football London were reporting that Joka is at the Serbia WC training camp and told Serbian media that he wants to sign Mitro this summer and that the clubs are in talks about it.
Centre back, left back but above all right sided forward needed.
Shaqiri would be a real prestige signing. My only worry would be as to whether he's a bit of a luxury for a newly promoted side which needs to re-establish itself in the division. Would he, for instance, work back to defend and help out his full back? Isn't he in any event left footed?
We need a new Simon Davies.
Quote from: Deeping_white on May 29, 2018, 01:46:44 PM
Further to the Mitro thing, GWL or Football London were reporting that Joka is at the Serbia WC training camp and told Serbian media that he wants to sign Mitro this summer and that the clubs are in talks about it.
Maybe he is having a chat with some of the other players as well?
Quote from: Mullers OG on May 29, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
Centre back, left back but above all right sided forward needed.
Shaqiri would be a real prestige signing. My only worry would be as to whether he's a bit of a luxury for a newly promoted side which needs to re-establish itself in the division. Would he, for instance, work back to defend and help out his full back? Isn't he in any event left footed?
We need a new Simon Davies.
or Damien Duff
We should be aiming better than Flint in the CB position.
Shaqiri would be a big statement of intent, Would be a top signing.
https://soccerballandwrasslin.blogspot.com/2018/05/fulham-1819-summer-window-preview.html
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on May 29, 2018, 05:32:28 PM
https://soccerballandwrasslin.blogspot.com/2018/05/fulham-1819-summer-window-preview.html
Decent read, Some good suggestions. Just read Boro want 15m for Adama Traore, I'd probably pay this all considered. If he continues his Boro form will be worth more than this in a couple of seasons.
Jokanović identifies Fulham transfer plan, up to €60m, dependent on promotion from Championship
By Lucas Sposito - 6th March 2018
When Fulham sent an official to watch Benfica's league match against Marítimo last Saturday, the local press didn't really know who the emissaries from London were keeping an eye on. But in a clarifying story today, Record brings the reason behind the scouting.
According to the outlet, the Championship side are interested in Serbian winger Andrija Zivkovic, who coincidentally had a great match on Saturday, scoring a goal.
Record claims that Zivkovic is 'well rated' by Fulham's scouting department, and the club now think of making an attempt for the Benfica player in case they succeed in getting Premier League promotion this season.
Manager Slaviša Jokanović is the one who indicated the player, and that's the reason why the club has been sending their scout from Portugal and Spain to watch Benfica so many times this season.
Fulham reportedly believe that besides the manager's influence, the club's good relationship with Benfica would help the transfer. The London side were recently involved in two deals with the Eagles: when buying Rui Fonte last year and when selling Konstantinos Mitroglou back in 2015.
But Record doesn't mention how much Benfica would demand for the player. It's worth recalling that his release clause currently stands at €60m, a price which would certainly have to be decreased for Fulham to get him.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-identifies-fulham-transfer-plan-e60m-dependent-promotion-championship/
I would love Zivkovic, immense talent. Imagine attacking trio: Sessegnon, Zivkovic, Mitrovic 😍 😍 😍
We bought Rui Fonte from Braga though, not Benfica. Casts a bit of doubt over the whole article.
Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
We bought Rui Fonte from Braga though, not Benfica. Casts a bit of doubt over the whole article.
That article is not relevant. This is the original article:
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Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
We bought Rui Fonte from Braga though, not Benfica. Casts a bit of doubt over the whole article.
He was previously at Benfica so I imagine they had a sell on percentage or still owned some of his rights. In which case we would of had some negotiations with them as well as Braga. I could be wrong though.
Quote from: zander on May 29, 2018, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
We bought Rui Fonte from Braga though, not Benfica. Casts a bit of doubt over the whole article.
He was previously at Benfica so I imagine they had a sell on percentage or still owned some of his rights. In which case we would of had some negotiations with them as well as Braga. I could be wrong though.
That`s probably true.
Andrija Zivkovic would be a great piece of business, a great little player. As someone above said strikeforce of Sess, Mitro and Zivkovic would be lethal.
Talksport Transfer Gossip Now....Flint to join Fulham this week,and Cottagers also chasing Southampton keeper Fraser Foster.
Latest according to the people "who know": Bale in talks with Fulham after dressing room bust up with Zin
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 30, 2018, 06:36:11 AM
Talksport Transfer Gossip Now....Flint to join Fulham this week,and Cottagers also chasing Southampton keeper Fraser Foster.
I'll cry if we sign Forster, he can't catch a cold
Quote from: Deeping_white on May 30, 2018, 09:44:30 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 30, 2018, 06:36:11 AM
Talksport Transfer Gossip Now....Flint to join Fulham this week,and Cottagers also chasing Southampton keeper Fraser Foster.
I'll cry if we sign Forster, he can't catch a cold
Entitled to your view, but in my opinion he was much better than Joe Hart when Hart was England's No 1 for Euro 2016 and was unlucky that Hodgson favoured loyalty and experience over form. He didn't have a good season, but nor had EDVS when we signed him from Juventus...
With that said, I'd love to see Betts play for us in the PL/
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 30, 2018, 06:36:11 AM
Talksport Transfer Gossip Now....Flint to join Fulham this week,and Cottagers also chasing Southampton keeper Fraser Foster.
I'll cry if we sign Forster, he can't catch a cold
Entitled to your view, but in my opinion he was much better than Joe Hart when Hart was England's No 1 for Euro 2016 and was unlucky that Hodgson favoured loyalty and experience over form. He didn't have a good season, but nor had EDVS when we signed him from Juventus...
With that said, I'd love to see Betts play for us in the PL/
Good god, please no. We need Betts or a clear step up (Romero, for example) not somebody on their way down. Fraser Forster's next club, unfortunately, will be in the champ as he slowly Scott carsons it down the leagues.
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Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
We bought Rui Fonte from Braga though, not Benfica. Casts a bit of doubt over the whole article.
He was previously at Benfica so I imagine they had a sell on percentage or still owned some of his rights. In which case we would of had some negotiations with them as well as Braga. I could be wrong though.
That`s probably true.
Andrija Zivkovic would be a great piece of business, a great little player. As someone above said strikeforce of Sess, Mitro and Zivkovic would be lethal.
With an average age of 21 and a combined age that's younger than John Terry
John Terry must have aged very quickly very recently then...
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Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
We bought Rui Fonte from Braga though, not Benfica. Casts a bit of doubt over the whole article.
He was previously at Benfica so I imagine they had a sell on percentage or still owned some of his rights. In which case we would of had some negotiations with them as well as Braga. I could be wrong though.
That`s probably true.
Andrija Zivkovic would be a great piece of business, a great little player. As someone above said strikeforce of Sess, Mitro and Zivkovic would be lethal.
With an average age of 21 and a combined age that's younger than John Terry
John Terry must have aged very quickly very recently then...
Yea on Saturday about ten to seven
Can we open a book as to the date the first post appears here from someone claiming he's worried that we haven't made any signings yet?
http://www.nufcblog.com/2018/05/30/a-part-exchange-for-mitrovic-is-possible-with-this-player-coming-to-newcastle/
A Part Exchange For Mitrovic Is Possible – With This Player Coming To Newcastle
The Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle are interested in signing Fulham right-back, Ryan Fredericks.
The 25-year-old has a three-year contract that runs out at the end of next month, and he and his agent are waiting to see what Fulham offer him to stay on at Craven Cottage and play in the Premier League.
Ryan was born and bred in London having been born in Hammersmith.
He started his career at his hometown club Tottenham Hotspur and eventually moved to Bristol City before joining the Cottagers on a three year deal in the summer of 2015.
And he says he would like to stay at Fulham after they were promoted last Saturday by beating Aston Villa 1-0 in the playoff final at Wembley.
Two London clubs West Ham United and Crystal Palace are also interested in signing the defender who has been at Fulham for three years and has played for them 114 times with 16 assists.
He did have a loan spell at Middlesbrough in the northeast in the 2014-2015 season and played for the Smoggies 19 times.
After beating Aston Villa on Saturday Fredericks had this to say:
"It's up to the people behind the scenes but I'm sure everyone will want to stay and play at the highest level with Fulham and see what we can achieve."
Newcastle do seem to have some leverage since Fulham want striker Aleksandar Mitrovic and the club could do a part exchange deal with Fredericks and cash coming Newcastle's way.
But this will all depend on what Fulham offer Fredericks in a new contract and whether that's acceptable to the right back.
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Quote from: cmg on May 30, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Your right there...lol
Quote from: cmg on May 30, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
Afobe on his way back to Wolves from Bournemouth.
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: cmg on May 30, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
is this the same Jota that we signed last summer as broken by Charlie and then was presented by Birmingham? :-)
Quote from: corbs83 on May 30, 2018, 12:36:34 PM
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Quote from: cmg on May 30, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
is this the same Jota that we signed last summer as broken by Charlie and then was presented by Birmingham? :-)
lol
George Williams free transfer to Barnsley or Rotherham apparently
Would be a huge shame but understandable when he leaves.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 30, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
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Quote from: cmg on May 30, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
is this the same Jota that we signed last summer as broken by Charlie and then was presented by Birmingham? :-)
lol
Sounds like Charlie's work.
Quote from: corbs83 on May 30, 2018, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: cmg on May 30, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
is this the same Jota that we signed last summer as broken by Charlie and then was presented by Birmingham? :-)
Good point, however, remember this is predominantly a rumours thread. He posted that because he had reason to think it would happen. It turned out he was mistaken. Hopefully Charlie will adapt the content and style of his posts this year and enter into discussion.
Did you get to Wembley Charlie?
Fulham,QPR,Wolves interested in out of contract Dylan McGeough of Hibernian.
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Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
is this the same Jota that we signed last summer as broken by Charlie and then was presented by Birmingham? :-)
Good point, however, remember this is predominantly a rumours thread. He posted that because he had reason to think it would happen. It turned out he was mistaken. Hopefully Charlie will adapt the content and style of his posts this year and enter into discussion.
Did you get to Wembley Charlie?
I did mate the best day of my life by some way.
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George Williams free transfer to Barnsley or Rotherham apparently
Would be a huge shame but understandable when he leaves.
His career seemed to take a downward trajectory after impressing for Wales. Injuries, I guess.
On a happier and more important note, did anyone see that amazing picture over the weekend of George's tiny baby son with his father (George), grandfather, great grandfather and 103 year old great, great grandmother? 5 generations, incredible.
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Jota to Fulham so I hear
Charlie! Wonderful!
Welcome back.
I now declare the 'The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19' well and truly open.
Great to be back lads.
is this the same Jota that we signed last summer as broken by Charlie and then was presented by Birmingham? :-)
Good point, however, remember this is predominantly a rumours thread. He posted that because he had reason to think it would happen. It turned out he was mistaken. Hopefully Charlie will adapt the content and style of his posts this year and enter into discussion.
Did you get to Wembley Charlie?
I did mate the best day of my life by some way.
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http://www.nufcblog.com/2018/05/30/a-part-exchange-for-mitrovic-is-possible-with-this-player-coming-to-newcastle/
A Part Exchange For Mitrovic Is Possible – With This Player Coming To Newcastle
The Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle are interested in signing Fulham right-back, Ryan Fredericks.
The 25-year-old has a three-year contract that runs out at the end of next month, and he and his agent are waiting to see what Fulham offer him to stay on at Craven Cottage and play in the Premier League.
Ryan was born and bred in London having been born in Hammersmith.
He started his career at his hometown club Tottenham Hotspur and eventually moved to Bristol City before joining the Cottagers on a three year deal in the summer of 2015.
And he says he would like to stay at Fulham after they were promoted last Saturday by beating Aston Villa 1-0 in the playoff final at Wembley.
Two London clubs West Ham United and Crystal Palace are also interested in signing the defender who has been at Fulham for three years and has played for them 114 times with 16 assists.
He did have a loan spell at Middlesbrough in the northeast in the 2014-2015 season and played for the Smoggies 19 times.
After beating Aston Villa on Saturday Fredericks had this to say:
"It's up to the people behind the scenes but I'm sure everyone will want to stay and play at the highest level with Fulham and see what we can achieve."
Newcastle do seem to have some leverage since Fulham want striker Aleksandar Mitrovic and the club could do a part exchange deal with Fredericks and cash coming Newcastle's way.
But this will all depend on what Fulham offer Fredericks in a new contract and whether that's acceptable to the right back.
I do not understand this, he is a free agent at the end of the month, why would he be part of a deal for mitro
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http://www.nufcblog.com/2018/05/30/a-part-exchange-for-mitrovic-is-possible-with-this-player-coming-to-newcastle/
A Part Exchange For Mitrovic Is Possible – With This Player Coming To Newcastle
The Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle are interested in signing Fulham right-back, Ryan Fredericks.
The 25-year-old has a three-year contract that runs out at the end of next month, and he and his agent are waiting to see what Fulham offer him to stay on at Craven Cottage and play in the Premier League.
Ryan was born and bred in London having been born in Hammersmith.
He started his career at his hometown club Tottenham Hotspur and eventually moved to Bristol City before joining the Cottagers on a three year deal in the summer of 2015.
And he says he would like to stay at Fulham after they were promoted last Saturday by beating Aston Villa 1-0 in the playoff final at Wembley.
Two London clubs West Ham United and Crystal Palace are also interested in signing the defender who has been at Fulham for three years and has played for them 114 times with 16 assists.
He did have a loan spell at Middlesbrough in the northeast in the 2014-2015 season and played for the Smoggies 19 times.
After beating Aston Villa on Saturday Fredericks had this to say:
"It's up to the people behind the scenes but I'm sure everyone will want to stay and play at the highest level with Fulham and see what we can achieve."
Newcastle do seem to have some leverage since Fulham want striker Aleksandar Mitrovic and the club could do a part exchange deal with Fredericks and cash coming Newcastle's way.
But this will all depend on what Fulham offer Fredericks in a new contract and whether that's acceptable to the right back.
I do not understand this, he is a free agent at the end of the month, why would he be part of a deal for mitro
Agree.... i wasn't overly confident of this story when i copied it into this thread.
Theory only... maybe Ryan has intimated that he might sign a new contract. I read he has said he wants to play for us in the Prem, that he loves the team spirit and ethos at Fulham. Perhaps he's open to helping us make some money in a transfer fee as well?
On Sky transfer centre. Shame, if true, he impresses me and would have liked him here.
NORTH EAST MOVE FOR TRAORE?
Adama Traore, one of Middlesbrough's brightest stars of their play-off campaign, could be on his way up the M1 to Newcastle, according to the Yorkshire Post.
The newspaper reports the Magpies would be willing to meet Boro's £15m valuation of their flying winger, following their failure to win promotion back to the Premier League.
Just pure speculation here but would anyone take Patrick Roberts if he became available?
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Just pure speculation here but would anyone take Patrick Roberts if he became available?
Forest Green Rovers are looking for a player.
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Just pure speculation here but would anyone take Patrick Roberts if he became available?
I don't think he'd fit in. He's lightweight and i can't remember him chasing back to help defend (maybe that's changed now he's in a lesser league). Also, it vary rarely works out when a player returns to a club for a second spell, although there are exceptions (Mullery springs to mind).
SKY reporting Robert Lewandowski wants to leave Bayern. I can dream.
Quote from: charliejones141 on May 30, 2018, 03:37:18 PM
Just pure speculation here but would anyone take Patrick Roberts if he became available?
He had an impressive first season in Scotland but made what I would consider a poor decision when he opted to stay for the Micky Mouse Scottish FA Cup final instead of going with the England u20 squad that won th World Cup (Sheyi Ojo was part of it on the rw). Since then he has suffered injury problems.
Whenever I have seen him play for Celtic has has shown that he still has the moves that made him one of the best young players in Europe. However he doesn't seem to have developed his game and has stagnated in Scotland.
I feel he would benefit emensely from the kind of coaching he would get with us.
I would love to see him return 'home' (I don't agree with those who think he was disloyal, although perhaps he was misguided) and we are more likely to be able to offer him a 1st team place than Manchester City, but I expect City would want what they paid us for him - and that, I think, would be too much at this stage.
He hasn't grown much, but works hard. And he's only 20 - seems to have been around for ever.
I'd like Traore to see what Kamara, Mitro and Traore unleashed on the Prem would look like. Presumably just madness and chaos.
Nailed on for Jsson Koumas to sign in the next few days I hear
Agree it's a bit harsh to hold it against Patrick Roberts for not turning down a move to Man City - it's not like he was getting into our first 11 on a regular basis, plus it was good money at the time we probably needed to funding moves for Cairney etc. given FFP rules.
Would love to see is secure Targett / Mitro, then go for Alfie Mawson (ball playing CB) and Jonny Evans - especially if he has the £3m relgation clause in his contract as reported by various sources.
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On Sky transfer centre. Shame, if true, he impresses me and would have liked him here.
NORTH EAST MOVE FOR TRAORE?
Adama Traore, one of Middlesbrough's brightest stars of their play-off campaign, could be on his way up the M1 to Newcastle, according to the Yorkshire Post.
The newspaper reports the Magpies would be willing to meet Boro's £15m valuation of their flying winger, following their failure to win promotion back to the Premier League.
they must want 15m for mitro then
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On Sky transfer centre. Shame, if true, he impresses me and would have liked him here.
NORTH EAST MOVE FOR TRAORE?
Adama Traore, one of Middlesbrough's brightest stars of their play-off campaign, could be on his way up the M1 to Newcastle, according to the Yorkshire Post.
The newspaper reports the Magpies would be willing to meet Boro's £15m valuation of their flying winger, following their failure to win promotion back to the Premier League.
they must want 15m for mitro then
TBH from what I have seen of traore is an Olympic sprinter with no end product.
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On Sky transfer centre. Shame, if true, he impresses me and would have liked him here.
NORTH EAST MOVE FOR TRAORE?
Adama Traore, one of Middlesbrough's brightest stars of their play-off campaign, could be on his way up the M1 to Newcastle, according to the Yorkshire Post.
The newspaper reports the Magpies would be willing to meet Boro's £15m valuation of their flying winger, following their failure to win promotion back to the Premier League.
they must want 15m for mitro then
TBH from what I have seen of traore is an Olympic sprinter with no end product.
Since Pulis came in he was actually developing one to be fair to him. 5 Goals, 10 Assists when Monk didn't even play him at the start of the season is a pretty good return for a winger. Plus Jokanovic would be able to keep developing him in my opinion. Only have to look at the improvement of the likes of Fredericks, AK47 etc. since he came in.
Well, we only have 12 senior players at the moment, excluding the once that SJ appear to not be a fan of. Need about 10 signings this summer...
Betts, Butts
Ream, Odoi, Christie
Johansen, Cairney, McD
Sess, Ayite, Fonte, AK
Djalo, Kebano, Fred, Cisse, the youngsters and the loans excluded.
I'm hoping we go for James Maddison from Norwich.
Think he would be a great fit.
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Well, we only have 12 senior players at the moment, excluding the once that SJ appear to not be a fan of. Need about 10 signings this summer...
Betts, Butts
Ream, Odoi, Christie
Johansen, Cairney, McD
Sess, Ayite, Fonte, AK
Djalo, Kebano, Fred, Cisse, the youngsters and the loans excluded.
You can probably exclude Butts as well to be fair
Hope to see Mitro Targett Norwood & Kalas return. Alfie Mawson would be a great pick up at cb. Adama Traore would be an interesting one at RW. I wonder if we return for players previously linked with such as Diego Rolan & Che Adams
Antonio from West Ham linked from HTC this evening.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5788821/Ryan-Fredericks-join-West-Ham-free-despite-Fulhams-promotion.html
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Antonio from West Ham linked from HTC this evening.
I reckon this could be good for us
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/30/fulham-a-logical-destination-for-west-hams-michail-antonio-after/
West Ham United could be willing to listen to offers for Michail Antonio during the summer transfer window, according to the Guardian.
Antonio has scored or made 32 goals in 90 West Ham games since his £8.5 million leap from Championship football, but endured his worst season as a Hammers player last term, in which he suffered various injury lay-offs.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5788821/Ryan-Fredericks-join-West-Ham-free-despite-Fulhams-promotion.html
that would pi44 me off. i don't blame him for keeping his options open when he wasn't sure whether we'd get promoted, but with us having been promoted, if he goes to another mid-table premiership team that is just disrespectful. the massive irony is they could easily get relegated next season
Would p1ss me off on a free. He has been brilliant for us this season, but Cyrus will step in.
Is there still an age restriction? Kline, moderate knob, if it was his policy - to only bring in players with resale value is not a bad policy.
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Is there still an age restriction? Kline, moderate knob, if it was his policy - to only bring in players with resale value is not a bad policy.
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So hope this isn't true, it is the Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5788821/Ryan-Fredericks-join-West-Ham-free-despite-Fulhams-promotion.html
West Ham United are in a four-way fight to land out of contract Fulham right back Ryan Fredericks.
Fulham are desperate for him to renew following their promotion to the Premier League and both Southampton and Crystal Palace are interested in the defender.
Fredericks is is currently away in Las Vegas, with the Fulham team as they celebrate their arrival in the Premier League but the Irons are due to meet him on early on Monday as they move fast to get their man.
There is big confidence in the Irons camp that they can persuade Fredericks to sign as they believe they can outbid the other clubs on his personal terms.
The world wide reputation of new manager Manuel Pellegrini could also count heavily as the player considers his decision.
The Hammers are keen to get their summer business completed as quickly as possible and want to avoid a bidding war over Fredericks.
The 25 year old was voted into the PFA Championship side of the year and his serious pace and athleticism is considered right exactly what the Irons require.
The club are very hopeful Fredericks will be the first player to put pen to paper as they move fast to complete their business with more signings expected over the next two or three weeks.
Haven't seen him linked but just throwing a name out there, Malang Sarr from OGC Nice. 19, CB, a bit like a more defensively minded Sess from what I can see. Very comfortable with ball to feet and can also play left back. On contract with Nice til 2021 so may be a bit pricey.
If Fredericks does leave, we should look at one of Michel Macedo (Las Palmas), Jonas Svensson (AZ Alkmaar), Moritz Bauer (Stoke) or Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from United now they're signing another RB from Porto. Christie's not good enough to start in the Prem. Loses his man too easily, so god help him against the Sane's and Hazard's of this world.
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If Fredericks does leave, we should look at one of Michel Macedo (Las Palmas), Jonas Svensson (AZ Alkmaar), Moritz Bauer (Stoke) or Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from United now they're signing another RB from Porto. Christie's not good enough to start in the Prem. Loses his man too easily, so god help him against the Sane's and Hazard's of this world.
Bauer looks legit from what I've seen, I'd be pleased with getting him. Can't speak to the others.
I'd be surprised if West Ham we're still interested. They've just go a new manager so surely he would have his own targets. Or are west ham operating with a transfer man and then just a team manager?
That's sad. Fredericks was probably the best RB in champ, A good player.
I still believe Fredericks will sign a new 3 year deal with Fulham
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If Fredericks does leave, we should look at one of Michel Macedo (Las Palmas), Jonas Svensson (AZ Alkmaar), Moritz Bauer (Stoke) or Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from United now they're signing another RB from Porto. Christie's not good enough to start in the Prem. Loses his man too easily, so god help him against the Sane's and Hazard's of this world.
Bauer looks legit from what I've seen, I'd be pleased with getting him. Can't speak to the others.
We have been linked with Bauer before his move to Russia and he did look great at Stoke last season. Would be a shrewd signing.
If you take any notice of the gossip pages, Wolves will be bidding over £150 mil for numerous players. I want us to stay under the radar with players we are interested in. In the PL there are always clubs ready to gazump us. If it´s reported that we are interested in a player for £20 mil some other club willoffer £25 mil.
By reports in the last hour it looks like Fred is definitely off to Spam.😡
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By reports in the last hour it looks like Fred is definitely off to Spam.😡
He's not even in the country though, in fact he's only just landed in LA with the rest of the team so not sure how the press have come to that conclusion. We had this exact same thing in January where if you believed all the shite in the media then he was gone alone with TC. Still think he'll sign an extension, it would be weird for him not to bearing in mind there's no difference between us and West Ham and we play a more attacking system in which he thrives...
West Ham just got a big name manager in though, which might help sway him.
But according to the media, Sessegnon and Cairney have both been transferred several times over. And we were apparently on the verge of selling McDonald to Rangers for £2 million. So take these reports with a healthy heaping of salt.
The media are desperate for news, any news, even when there isn't any news. If they told me night followed day, I would go and ask someone else.
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By reports in the last hour it looks like Fred is definitely off to Spam.😡
He's not even in the country though, in fact he's only just landed in LA with the rest of the team so not sure how the press have come to that conclusion. We had this exact same thing in January where if you believed all the shite in the media then he was gone alone with TC. Still think he'll sign an extension, it would be weird for him not to bearing in mind there's no difference between us and West Ham and we play a more attacking system in which he thrives...
The difference between a contract with us and West ham is that he would probably get a big signing on package as WH would not have not paid any transfer fee for him, don't know if the personal terms would be the same. It's all down to ££££££££'s.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 31, 2018, 11:19:36 AM
The media are desperate for news, any news, even when there isn't any news. If they told me night followed day, I would go and ask someone else.
Best not to believe anything until you see it on the club website, we do have Christie but is he premiership level?
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The media are desperate for news, any news, even when there isn't any news. If they told me night followed day, I would go and ask someone else.
Best not to believe anything until you see it on the club website, we do have Christie but is he premiership level?
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Is Fredericks?
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I still believe Fredericks will sign a new 3 year deal with Fulham
That's the Spirit!!
Both stories are out there today - he's off to WHU and he wants to stay. I think it's just attitude structuring by sections of the press. By all accounts, Fred is abroad so won't make a decision till he has both/all offers on the table. Then he'll make the decision as to what he thinks is right for him.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 31, 2018, 11:19:36 AM
The media are desperate for news, any news, even when there isn't any news. If they told me night followed day, I would go and ask someone else.
Best not to believe anything until you see it on the club website, we do have Christie but is he premiership level?
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Is Fredericks?
Fair point
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I wouldn't take any notice of current paper gossip - Sky are reporting Leicester are looking to take Grealish for 40 million!
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I noticed on Twitter today that Fredrick's has gone to a new agency. He joined Unique Sports Management yesterday - This will be why all of these stories are hitting the papers today, I would say it's 50/50 as we speak.
Interestingly they also manage Tom Cairney, Steven Sessegnon and Michail Antonio.
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I noticed on Twitter today that Fredrick's has gone to a new agency -He joined Unique Sports Management yesterday - This will be why all of these stories are hitting the papers today, I would say it's 50/50 as we speak.
That agency actually has at least 4/5 fulham players on its books. They've got the Sess brothers, TC, Edun and Ollie Norwood on their books so I think that's more positive for us than anything...
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Quote from: kdjr100 on May 31, 2018, 03:58:16 PM
I noticed on Twitter today that Fredrick's has gone to a new agency -He joined Unique Sports Management yesterday - This will be why all of these stories are hitting the papers today, I would say it's 50/50 as we speak.
That agency actually has at least 4/5 fulham players on its books. They've got the Sess brothers, TC, Edun and Ollie Norwood on their books so I think that's more positive for us than anything...
Agreed, however they seem to have a lot of West Ham too!
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That is a bit low seeing as we rejected a £20 million offer last year before he signed his new contract. They need to keep their news ticker going though I guess.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-join-newcastle-in-growing-race-for-8-figure-valued-ace/
FULHAM JOIN NEWCASTLE IN GROWING RACE FOR 8-FIGURE VALUED ACE
Fulham are looking at signing Gianmarco Ferrari this summer, according to Calciomercato.it, with the likes of Newcastle also interested.
Ferrari was on loan at Sampdoria from Sassuolo last season as he made 30 appearances in a campaign which ended in disappointment because three consecutive losses denied them the chance to finish in a Europa League place. However, Marco Giampaolo has still done well with the Genoa-based outfit.
His passing numbers hint at why Fulham and the Magpies are interested because he averaged 56.6 passes with a success rate of 88.3% in the league last season as a centre-back. However, they will have to contend with Sevilla for his signature and Sampdoria who have an option to buy him for 13 million euros.
The Verdict
Ferrari's statistics suggest that he would be a good fit for the Cottagers because of his ability to retain possession and keep the ball circulating. This is something that a lot of defenders would struggle with due to the high demands at Fulham.
The 26-year-old is unlikely to be a feasible target, though, because the aforementioned suitors are all likely to be higher than them in the pecking order for his signature. Although going after targets such as Ferrari should be seen as a positive for fans because it suggests that they are looking for players who fit the system rather than attempting to force experienced Premier League players in who aren't suited.
https://www.football.london/crystal-palace-fc/transfer-news/wolves-favourites-ahead-fulham-derby-14729349
Wolves ahead of Fulham and Derby as favourites to sign Crystal Palace star this summer
Premier League new boys Wolves are the current favourites with bookmakers to sign Crystal Palace forward Bakary Sako this summer.
The Malian international is out of contract this summer and has previously been linked with a return to his former side, having left Wolves for Palace on a free transfer in 2015.
It is understood that Palace have offered him a new contract and are hopeful that he will sign it to extend his stay in south London, but Bet Victor are still offering odds of 2/1 that he will rejoin his old side this summer.
Wolves are looking to strengthen their side ahead of their return to the Premier League, having won the Championship title last season.
And Sako is reportedly one of the players under consideration, with the Molineux outfit said to be monitoring his contract situation at Palace.
But the latest odds suggest that they are not the only ones, with Bet Victor also offering odds of 6/1 that he will join another newly-promoted side in Fulham.
Derby County, who have just appointed Chelsea legend Frank Lampard as their new manager, are third favourites to sign Sako at 8/1, the same price as West Brom, who were relegated from the Premier League.
Sako was a firm fans' favourite during his time at Wolves, helping the club to promotion from League One in 2013/14 and being named in the divisional team of the season in both that year and the following year in the Championship.
Since joining Palace, he has been dogged by injury troubles, but showed form last season when played by Eagles boss Roy Hodgson in a more advanced position, scoring six goals in all competitions.
His season was cut short though when he suffered a fractured ankle and damaged ligaments in a 1-1 draw with West Ham in January, and he has not featured since.
Can't see sako joining derby,taking a step down no way.
https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/exclusive-ryan-fredericks-fulham-contract-14729391
We've got to make Ollie Norwood a permanent player.. said in a interview on sky, He wants to be a Fulham player!! Great footballing brain on him.. and can score penalties
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Can get better than him,has struggled at Celtic this season,so doubt will be success in premier.
According to the press the asking price for Kalas is £10 million. Not too sure at that price seeing as he was pushed out of the team by Odoi in the second half of the season.
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Tabby on June 01, 2018, 10:53:34 AM
According to the press the asking price for Kalas is £10 million. Not too sure at that price seeing as he was pushed out of the team by Odoi in the second half of the season.
Any thoughts?
Kalas lost his man (Hogan) for the late chance which he couldn't quite reach sufficiently well to direct towards goal. He is a good player, but I wonder if there are better defenders out there for that price?
Quote from: Tabby on June 01, 2018, 10:53:34 AM
According to the press the asking price for Kalas is £10 million. Not too sure at that price seeing as he was pushed out of the team by Odoi in the second half of the season.
Any thoughts?
Not a fan myself. But at that price would we get a better defender? We do need a couple of central defenders but are we willing to pay out?
well spotted MCG Charlie's back with his usual.B/S . I C he has dropped the Sports bit from his name.
Quote from: Statto on June 01, 2018, 11:31:03 AM
I am a fan of Kalas but at 25 years old, he has probably peaked and i don't think he's at the level which justifies a £10m fee. If you take youth out the equation and you're buying someone in their late 20s, then for defenders IMO £10m should buy you a really good, international class player
Compared with the reported £20m Bournemouth paid Chelsea for Nathan Ake this time last year, £10m for Kalas in the Premiership / Sky pricing market does not seem unreasonable. Especially as he knows us, we know him and he seems to want to play for us.
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Quote from: Statto on June 01, 2018, 11:31:03 AM
I am a fan of Kalas but at 25 years old, he has probably peaked and i don't think he's at the level which justifies a £10m fee. If you take youth out the equation and you're buying someone in their late 20s, then for defenders IMO £10m should buy you a really good, international class player
Compared with the reported £20m Bournemouth paid Chelsea for Nathan Ake this time last year, £10m for Kalas in the Premiership / Sky pricing market does not seem unreasonable. Especially as he knows us, we know him and he seems to want to play for us.
Ake was the best defender in their team and had a year and a half of Premier League at 22 when they got him. He played almost every minute last year for them and is a key player.
Kalas on the other hand has a couple of seasons in the Championship and was pushed out of the starting lineup for us when we only had 2 recognized centre backs going into the season, including Kalas.
Quote from: Tonywa on May 30, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Can we open a book as to the date the first post appears here from someone claiming he's worried that we haven't made any signings yet?
I read yesterday that Fredericks is in talks with West Ham but in fact I suspect it is just paper talk. This could go on all summer with Fredericks just letting it run on and on to ensure he gets the best offer.
Quote from: Statto on June 01, 2018, 11:31:03 AM
I am a fan of Kalas but at 25 years old, he has probably peaked and i don't think he's at the level which justifies a £10m fee. If you take youth out the equation and you're buying someone in their late 20s, then for defenders IMO £10m should buy you a really good, international class player
Do CB's peak a 25? I think more like 30 personally. He wasn't the player we hoped he would be last season but it's hard to improve when sat on the bench. I think he has the potential to improve to PL quality.
In hindsight 30 is a bit old. Timmy's probably an exception. Wouldn't write off a 25 year old as peaked however
Quote from: filham on June 01, 2018, 01:12:45 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on May 30, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Can we open a book as to the date the first post appears here from someone claiming he's worried that we haven't made any signings yet?
I read yesterday that Fredericks is in talks with West Ham but in fact I suspect it is just paper talk. This could go on all summer with Fredericks just letting it run on and on to ensure he gets the best offer.
At the end of his contract he no longer gets paid - zero income usually speeds things up
Kalas not good enough I believe, great lad but not at 10 mill.
According to Turkish papers we're in for Youness Mokhtar (winger who plays in the Netherlands). Would probably be a depth option if anything.
Quote from: Tabby on June 01, 2018, 09:55:59 PM
According to Turkish papers we're in for Youness Mokhtar (winger who plays in the Netherlands). Would probably be a depth option if anything.
I can never fathom out depth options
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/940375899?-11176:824:3
Well played Fred, well played....
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 01, 2018, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 01, 2018, 09:55:59 PM
According to Turkish papers we're in for Youness Mokhtar (winger who plays in the Netherlands). Would probably be a depth option if anything.
I can never fathom out depth options
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Quote from: Tabby on June 01, 2018, 09:55:59 PM
According to Turkish papers we're in for Youness Mokhtar (winger who plays in the Netherlands). Would probably be a depth option if anything.
I can never fathom out depth options
Very Good centurion :)
Would you take Hoilett on a free transfer?
Think out aspirations for who we hire for the playing team should be higher now than before.. Khan isn't al fayed and I feel people see him similarly in terms of transfer policy. Think with slavisa in charge too we should also be targeting top players too.
I woul love to sign Ki on a free but it sounds like he is going to Milan.
Martin Kelly would aldo be handy.
Contract talks with Slav starting soon according to Sky.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/11392559/fulham-to-open-slavisa-jokanovic-contract-talks-later-this-month (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/11392559/fulham-to-open-slavisa-jokanovic-contract-talks-later-this-month)
For the sake of my sanity this summer I will not be viewing this thread nor any gossip pages in the media. I will just wait on any official announcement from the Club before commenting.
Quote from: grandad on June 02, 2018, 03:06:12 PM
For the sake of my sanity this summer I will not be viewing this thread nor any gossip pages in the media. I will just wait on any official announcement from the Club before commenting.
You obviously are, lol.... I get your drift ☺
Manchester United are bidding £50million for Sess according to Metro and some other places. Nice to see that we're up to 50 instead of 30 million in the rumor talk at least.
I shall be relying on mince feeding me with the latest comings and goings, from under his horse blanket in the bushes at Motspur Park over the summer period, I just hope he has remembered his binoculars.
Quote from: Statto on June 03, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 03, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Manchester United are bidding £50million for Sess according to Metro and some other places. Nice to see that we're up to 50 instead of 30 million in the rumor talk at least.
Woudn't surprise me. Khan conceded a few days ago that he would go if we got a "ridiculous" offer (although Khan maintained that we'd still have him back on loan) which must have put a few of suitors on alert
If villa want 40m for Grelish we want to be asking for at leat 70m for Sess younger with a better attitude
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 01, 2018, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 01, 2018, 09:55:59 PM
According to Turkish papers we're in for Youness Mokhtar (winger who plays in the Netherlands). Would probably be a depth option if anything.
I can never fathom out depth options
It means you've got plenty of subs.
Quote from: Nero on June 03, 2018, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 03, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 03, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Manchester United are bidding £50million for Sess according to Metro and some other places. Nice to see that we're up to 50 instead of 30 million in the rumor talk at least.
Woudn't surprise me. Khan conceded a few days ago that he would go if we got a "ridiculous" offer (although Khan maintained that we'd still have him back on loan) which must have put a few of suitors on alert
If villa want 40m for Grelish we want to be asking for at leat 70m for Sess younger with a better attitude
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Quote from: Statto on June 03, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 03, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Manchester United are bidding £50million for Sess according to Metro and some other places. Nice to see that we're up to 50 instead of 30 million in the rumor talk at least.
Woudn't surprise me. Khan conceded a few days ago that he would go if we got a "ridiculous" offer (although Khan maintained that we'd still have him back on loan) which must have put a few of suitors on alert
We're not allowed to loan Sess back in this window if we sell to a PL club (per league rules).
From 4TH Official on twitter --- Verified account with over 30,000 followers.
BREAKING: Fulham are really interested in signing Jack Wilshere as a free transfer.
While lots of other clubs are interested in the player, #ffc believes they can match the wage demands of the #afc ace and the fact that Wilshere wants to stay in London will help them.
Not saying it's real but I would love Wilshere, Would be a top signing.
Quote from: Statto on June 03, 2018, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 03, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
From 4TH Official on twitter --- Verified account with over 30,000 followers.
BREAKING: Fulham are really interested in signing Jack Wilshere as a free transfer.
While lots of other clubs are interested in the player, #ffc believes they can match the wage demands of the #afc ace and the fact that Wilshere wants to stay in London will help them.
Not saying it's real but I would love Wilshere, Would be a top signing.
not for me thanks, a complete weapon (bit like grealish) and can't be relied on for a 38 game season
Hmm, Disagree. I think he's a very talented footballer and when we signed Mitrovic you could have argued about his attitude and red card record but look what Slavisa did with him.
Wilshere would be a good pickup. He has gotten better with injuries lately and has the quality to play for a top 6 side.
Quote from: Statto on June 03, 2018, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 03, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
From 4TH Official on twitter --- Verified account with over 30,000 followers.
BREAKING: Fulham are really interested in signing Jack Wilshere as a free transfer.
While lots of other clubs are interested in the player, #ffc believes they can match the wage demands of the #afc ace and the fact that Wilshere wants to stay in London will help them.
Not saying it's real but I would love Wilshere, Would be a top signing.
not for me thanks, a complete weapon (bit like grealish) and can't be relied on for a 38 game season
One thing I would say; remember how much of a crock Freddo was that first season we bought him? When Joka came in he brought his fitness coach with him, and since then Freddo played almost every game. Coupled with the fact that it's runoured that a lot of Arsenal players suffered repeat injuries because of the how Wenger made them train, I think it might be a gamble that potentially pays off. Granted it could go either way but you can't doubt his talent when he's fit and playing on form, he would suit our system.
If the story is true, then I would be only too pleased to see Fulham sign Jack Wilshere, he would add even more quality to the team, and would signal a real statement of intent.
Wiltshire would be a statement of intent!
Wilshire would be perfect in the StefJo role currently, a great step up and would mean Stef would be backup - a fantastic depth option to have!
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Quality player who fits a number of systems.
I note we are (apparently) 'really interested', which is a lot more positive than 'not really interested' Next step is 'preparing a bid' (this is where Khan goes through his pockets to see if he really has got all those dollars). When we get to the 'swooping' stage I shall get interested...really interested.
Oh yes I like it, no doubt that Wiltshire is top quality but I suspect this is yet another journo trick to grab a few early window brownie points.
Quote from: Tabby on June 03, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Manchester United are bidding £50million for Sess according to Metro and some other places. Nice to see that we're up to 50 instead of 30 million in the rumor talk at least.
I suppose this must be a record rumoured value for any offer for a Fulham player featured on this board.
The journose are certainly winding up the price nicely for us.
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Quote from: Statto on June 03, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 03, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Manchester United are bidding £50million for Sess according to Metro and some other places. Nice to see that we're up to 50 instead of 30 million in the rumor talk at least.
Woudn't surprise me. Khan conceded a few days ago that he would go if we got a "ridiculous" offer (although Khan maintained that we'd still have him back on loan) which must have put a few of suitors on alert
We're not allowed to loan Sess back in this window if we sell to a PL club (per league rules).
How many loans are allowed for Premier League clubs?
25 Jan 2018
Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.
Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18, there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.
They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
This would suggest that if Sess were to be sold and we wanted him back on loan he would have to go abroad. I was disappointed when Khan said he might be sold and then brought back on loan. I would hope that if Sess says he does not want to be sold then it doesn't happen. Once sold he is no longer a Fulham player even if loaned back.
Would love Jacky Wilshere - could revamp his career
Quote from: filham on June 03, 2018, 08:25:43 PM
Oh yes I like it, no doubt that Wiltshire is top quality but I suspect this is yet another journo trick to grab a few early window brownie points.
Meh. Not really. Media darling maybe, but that seems about it. If you hadn't mentioned it, I would have though he was at Bournemouth or Leeds. Could be a good Danny Murphy type. He hasn't done much. Isn't he eternally injured? He needs to move on to shine, so perhaps a good point.
I think Jack Wilshire would be a great signing and statement of intent
As for fitness I think based on the last 2 seasons we at Fulham are doing something right with the intensity of training and the medical staff .
Piazon , Ayite and Ojo all had problems I know but in general I think we are good .
And a fully fit Wilshire with something to prove would an asset
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I won't get excited about Wilshere until he joins us. If available, there must be numerous clubs in the premier league that would take him. The aspect of interest is whether we feel that we need a marquee signing to show intent. Last time around we specifically looked for such a signing. We almost got Carew but then went for van der Sar.
I think Wilshere's performances for Bournemouth, a team not too dissimilar to ours, should be enough evidence that he most definitely isn't worth breaking the bank for.
Quote from: EastEndWhite on June 03, 2018, 08:54:09 PM
How many loans are allowed for Premier League clubs?
25 Jan 2018
Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.
Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18, there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.
They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
This would suggest that if Sess were to be sold and we wanted him back on loan he would have to go abroad. I was disappointed when Khan said he might be sold and then brought back on loan. I would hope that if Sess says he does not want to be sold then it doesn't happen. Once sold he is no longer a Fulham player even if loaned back.
When did these rules come in? I hadn't come across them before and neither have most of the posters on this board judging by all the posts on selling Sessegnon while still having him back on loan.
Personally I'd be in favour of a rule limiting the total number of players a premier league club can have out on loan, regardless of which league or what country they went to.
Seems half our fans can't even spell Wilshere's name, let alone sign him :dft012:
Quote from: Chesh on June 04, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
Seems half our fans can't even spell Wilshere's name, let alone sign him :dft012:
It's Jack isn't it ?
I would rather have Moose 1 back, who's available for £5m apparently.He's far better than Wilshere, who, sadly, believes his own hype. He also questions every decision the ref makes against his team, another John Terry, in that regard. Michel Vorm is also available on a free from Spuds. Quality keeper, and a good man to have on the bench to keep Betts on his toes.
What exactly has Jack done?
He has been hyped year in year out and achieved ver little.
No thanks
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on June 04, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
I would rather have Moose 1 back, who's available for £5m apparently.He's far better than Wilshere, who, sadly, believes his own hype. He also questions every decision the ref makes against his team, another John Terry, in that regard. Michel Vorm is also available on a free from Spuds. Quality keeper, and a good man to have on the bench to keep Betts on his toes.
Would love Dembele MK 1 back!
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on June 04, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
I would rather have Moose 1 back, who's available for £5m apparently.He's far better than Wilshere, who, sadly, believes his own hype. He also questions every decision the ref makes against his team, another John Terry, in that regard. Michel Vorm is also available on a free from Spuds. Quality keeper, and a good man to have on the bench to keep Betts on his toes.
Where did you see Dembele being available for £5m?
Is Luke Freeman, Forestieri and Jota from Brum, shooting too low?
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on June 04, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
I would rather have Moose 1 back, who's available for £5m apparently.He's far better than Wilshere, who, sadly, believes his own hype. He also questions every decision the ref makes against his team, another John Terry, in that regard. Michel Vorm is also available on a free from Spuds. Quality keeper, and a good man to have on the bench to keep Betts on his toes.
OMG! Dembele the first, even if for a year or two (turns 31 next month) for 5m is a steal. He hasn't missed a step and on paper slides into a Top 6 starting 11. He's probably cheap becuase of his age, and against our age policy, but him instead of Johansen in mid field makes a huge difference.
How is 5 million cheap, when we paid that in 2005 (I think) when he was a young man?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 04, 2018, 07:26:00 PM
How is 5 million cheap, when we paid that in 2005 (I think) when he was a young man?
inflation. Have you seen the prices of some bang average players. Don't Chelsea want 10 mil for kalas
He was never quick either so has 4 years left easily.
Who said Dembele is available for £5m?
I see he's had ankle issues, so perhaps this is why, but I find this hard to believe.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/tottenham-transfer-news-mousa-dembele-to-leave-spurs-move-china-italy-a8308736.html
I did see this.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/31/inter-milan-join-hunt-mousa-dembele-serie-clubs-battle-sign/
£20m and £100k a week with multiple Italian clubs already interested...!
Interesting, isn't it? There was all that reporting: "Fredericks has signed for WHU", " Fredericks has agreed with WHU and will sign Monday".
Well, it's 8.30pm and there's not been a squeak today.
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Quote from: millsy on June 04, 2018, 06:34:32 PM
Is Luke Freeman, Forestieri and Jota from Brum, shooting too low?
No, definitely not, but they are quite similar, so perhaps an "or" instead of an "and".
In a similar vein, Barry Bannan would suit our style.
https://www.turksvoetbal.net/besiktas-nieuws/48642-opare-naar-besiktas-goekhan-goenuel-naar-fulham.html
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Can't see this happening... he's 33 years old.
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Can't see this happening... he's 33 years old.
Never played outside Turkey, would be a strange signing.
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
I would get the moose back in a heart beat. Him alongside Cairney. Yes please.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 04, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Doesn't starlet mean young player? Sobhi?
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Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Wow. Is he still under 28? We could use a good Neanderthal in the side. Does Rory Delap come with the deal? BRING IN THE THUGS!
No thanks.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 04, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Doesn't starlet mean young player? Sobhi?
Isn't Sobhi signing for Huddersfield? Shaqiri would look good in a front three with Sessegnon and Mitrovic.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 04, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Can't see Shawcross. Only Stoke players I'd want that we could realistically sign would be Ndiaye and Bauer (assuming Fredericks is gone).
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 04, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Doesn't starlet mean young player? Sobhi?
Isn't Sobhi signing for Huddersfield? Shaqiri would look good in a front three with Sessegnon and Mitrovic.
Read the same on twitter, doesn't mean we aren't in for him though. I would stay away from relegated sides if I could - Shaqiiri aside. I just hope we also keep Berahino at arms length too.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 04, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Doesn't starlet mean young player? Sobhi?
Isn't Sobhi signing for Huddersfield? Shaqiri would look good in a front three with Sessegnon and Mitrovic.
Read the same on twitter, doesn't mean we aren't in for him though. I would stay away from relegated sides if I could - Shaqiiri aside. I just hope we also keep Berahino at arms length too.
There's quite a few players from the relegated teams I'd happily take this year.
Mawson, Fabianski or maybe Clucas as an option from Swansea.
Rondon, Jay Rodriguez, Oliver Burke, Evans, Hegazy and Ben Foster from WBA.
Bauer, Ndiaye, Allen, Shaqiri, Martins Indi and Butland from Stoke
That's not to say we should be signing all of them (and in the case of Mawson, Butland and Shaqiri in particular they'll be out of our price range) but there are some good players in the 3 teams this year.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 04, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Doesn't starlet mean young player? Sobhi?
Isn't Sobhi signing for Huddersfield? Shaqiri would look good in a front three with Sessegnon and Mitrovic.
Read the same on twitter, doesn't mean we aren't in for him though. I would stay away from relegated sides if I could - Shaqiiri aside. I just hope we also keep Berahino at arms length too.
There's quite a few players from the relegated teams I'd happily take this year.
Mawson, Fabianski or maybe Clucas as an option from Swansea.
Rondon, Jay Rodriguez, Oliver Burke, Evans, Hegazy and Ben Foster from WBA.
Bauer, Ndiaye, Allen, Shaqiri, Martins Indi and Butland from Stoke
That's not to say we should be signing all of them (and in the case of Mawson, Butland and Shaqiri in particular they'll be out of our price range) but there are some good players in the 3 teams this year.
Why is Mawson out of our price range? We've just secured access to Premier League renevue streams, have a billionaire owner no longer shackled by FFP who said that significant funds are available for the right players - Mawson is exactly the profile of players we should look at (young, good defender / confident on the ball / fits our system, has a good potential sell-on value, in a relegated team so likely looking for a move to stay in the Prem). It may be that other Prem teams may also go in for him, but if it's Shad's intention to "not just survive, but thrive" then this is exactly the sort of signing we should be looking at.
http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
ROBERTS TO LEICESTER?
Leicester will look to sign Manchester City forward Patrick Roberts as part of a deal which will see Riyad Mahrez head to the Etihad, according to the Daily Telegraph.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 05, 2018, 10:18:01 AM
http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
ROBERTS TO LEICESTER?
Leicester will look to sign Manchester City forward Patrick Roberts as part of a deal which will see Riyad Mahrez head to the Etihad, according to the Daily Telegraph.
Be intriguing to see if he can live up to the hype as a youngster or will be the next Berahino...
Seems a good fit I'd think
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Can't see this happening... he's 33 years old.
https://turkish-football.com/fulham-make-e4-5m-bid-besiktas-star-gokhan-gonul/
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/05/report-fulham-join-race-to-sign-norwich-citys-james-maddison/
Fulham have joined the race to sign Norwich City midfielder James Maddison, according to the Daily Mirror (liveblog entry 12:04).
Maddison scored 14 goals and set up eight in his breakthrough season at Norwich, who it is claimed are set to cash in after coming to the end of their Premier League parachute payments.
The England Under-21 international is said to have attracted interest from top four clubs Manchester City, Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur, however they have yet to firm up their interest, according to the Daily Mirror.
And the report adds that a door has now opened for 'lesser top-flight outfits like Fulham and Southampton' to seize on Maddison, who is likely leave Norwich for a fee ranging from £20million-£25million.
Landing Maddison would leave Fulham in excellent shape, not only to survive their first season back in the Premier League, but establish themselves in the top-flight in future.
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Can't see this happening... he's 33 years old.
https://turkish-football.com/fulham-make-e4-5m-bid-besiktas-star-gokhan-gonul/
33 no thanks. Feel he will struggle in PL
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Can't see this happening... he's 33 years old.
https://turkish-football.com/fulham-make-e4-5m-bid-besiktas-star-gokhan-gonul/
33 no thanks. Feel he will struggle in PL
Not only that, he has had quite a few injury problems. Transfermarkt records two operations (has had hamstring problems) last season.
Has been a top quality RB but Besiktas has already bought a replacement. They, and he, are probably keen to move him on.
The only good thing in this one is that I can't imagine the Turkish linens are any more reliable than ours.
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http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/05/report-fulham-join-race-to-sign-norwich-citys-james-maddison/
Fulham have joined the race to sign Norwich City midfielder James Maddison, according to the Daily Mirror (liveblog entry 12:04).
Maddison scored 14 goals and set up eight in his breakthrough season at Norwich, who it is claimed are set to cash in after coming to the end of their Premier League parachute payments.
The England Under-21 international is said to have attracted interest from top four clubs Manchester City, Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur, however they have yet to firm up their interest, according to the Daily Mirror.
And the report adds that a door has now opened for 'lesser top-flight outfits like Fulham and Southampton' to seize on Maddison, who is likely leave Norwich for a fee ranging from £20million-£25million.
Landing Maddison would leave Fulham in excellent shape, not only to survive their first season back in the Premier League, but establish themselves in the top-flight in future.
£20m spent on James Maddison would be money well spent in my opinion. Would fit very well in our midfield with KMac and Cairney too. I would not be surprised if he ends up at a more established PL side though.
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http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/05/report-fulham-join-race-to-sign-norwich-citys-james-maddison/
Fulham have joined the race to sign Norwich City midfielder James Maddison, according to the Daily Mirror (liveblog entry 12:04).
Maddison scored 14 goals and set up eight in his breakthrough season at Norwich, who it is claimed are set to cash in after coming to the end of their Premier League parachute payments.
The England Under-21 international is said to have attracted interest from top four clubs Manchester City, Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur, however they have yet to firm up their interest, according to the Daily Mirror.
And the report adds that a door has now opened for 'lesser top-flight outfits like Fulham and Southampton' to seize on Maddison, who is likely leave Norwich for a fee ranging from £20million-£25million.
Landing Maddison would leave Fulham in excellent shape, not only to survive their first season back in the Premier League, but establish themselves in the top-flight in future.
£20m spent on James Maddison would be money well spent in my opinion. Would fit very well in our midfield with KMac and Cairney too. I would not be surprised if he ends up at a more established PL side though.
On Sky Transfer Centre
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MADDISON TO LEICESTER?
Leicester are in pole position to sign Norwich midfielder James Maddison, according to Press Association Sport.
The Foxes are leading the chase for the 21-year-old and pushing hard to complete a deal.
Norwich are likely to demand over £20m for Maddison, who scored 14 goals in the Sky Bet Championship last season.
Leicester are poised to sell Riyad Mahrez to Manchester City and landing highly-rated Maddison would be a coup for the Foxes. Everton remain interested following Marco Silva's appointment but Maddison is keen on a switch to the King Power Stadium, which would take him closer to his home town of Coventry.
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Talkadoodle saying Fulham in for Stoke Starlet,believed to be Ryan Shawcross.
Doesn't starlet mean young player? Sobhi?
Isn't Sobhi signing for Huddersfield? Shaqiri would look good in a front three with Sessegnon and Mitrovic.
Read the same on twitter, doesn't mean we aren't in for him though. I would stay away from relegated sides if I could - Shaqiiri aside. I just hope we also keep Berahino at arms length too.
There's quite a few players from the relegated teams I'd happily take this year.
Mawson, Fabianski or maybe Clucas as an option from Swansea.
Rondon, Jay Rodriguez, Oliver Burke, Evans, Hegazy and Ben Foster from WBA.
Bauer, Ndiaye, Allen, Shaqiri, Martins Indi and Butland from Stoke
That's not to say we should be signing all of them (and in the case of Mawson, Butland and Shaqiri in particular they'll be out of our price range) but there are some good players in the 3 teams this year.
Why is Mawson out of our price range? We've just secured access to Premier League renevue streams, have a billionaire owner no longer shackled by FFP who said that significant funds are available for the right players - Mawson is exactly the profile of players we should look at (young, good defender / confident on the ball / fits our system, has a good potential sell-on value, in a relegated team so likely looking for a move to stay in the Prem). It may be that other Prem teams may also go in for him, but if it's Shad's intention to "not just survive, but thrive" then this is exactly the sort of signing we should be looking at.
There's being ambitious, and then there's being stupid. I've seen Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Liverpool linked with him off the top of my head who would all be able to offer 2 or 3x what we can in wages and be a lot more comfortable offering upwards of 20-30 mill which he'd probably cost. He'd probably start for all of them except Spurs as well.
Maddison would be an excellent signing!
https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/fulham-transfer-gossip-wilshere-maddison-14635067
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There's being ambitious, and then there's being stupid. I've seen Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Liverpool linked with him off the top of my head who would all be able to offer 2 or 3x what we can in wages and be a lot more comfortable offering upwards of 20-30 mill which he'd probably cost. He'd probably start for all of them except Spurs as well.
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Bidding £20m+ on a young player with high potential resale value is not stupid in today's market. I acknowledge other bigger name teams are linked with him but it doesn't hurt bidding - what do we have to lose? We have been quoted as looking at Maddison for similar prices - personally I think we need a CB more (not saying I wouldn't take Maddison but agree we can't be flashing too much cash about - if the opportunity cost is bidding on either / or rather than both then I'd go for the CB all day long). We only lose out potentially by not putting an offer in. We may not get him but if you don't but a ticket you don't win the raffle. Ambition is not a dirty word if done in a reasonable way.
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Bidding £20m+ on a young player with high potential resale value is not stupid in today's market. I acknowledge other bigger name teams are linked with him but it doesn't hurt bidding - what do we have to lose? We have been quoted as looking at Maddison for similar prices - personally I think we need a CB more (not saying I wouldn't take Maddison but agree we can't be flashing too much cash about - if the opportunity cost is bidding on either / or rather than both then I'd go for the CB all day long). We only lose out potentially by not putting an offer in. We may not get him but if you don't but a ticket you don't win the raffle. Ambition is not a dirty word if done in a reasonable way.
I'd just rather not chase unrealistic targets like we did with Lewis Dunk a few summers ago, especially with us needing to sign players ASAP in my opinion. You can't genuinely expect to sign Mawson. Plus there's a lot better value out there in my opinion given as you say he's young, english and highly rated. Personally I think we need to spend/will spend in the region of 60-80 Million this summer.
Sky Reporting Maddison.
No smoke without fire. I think this story is gathering speed. Must be a little bit of truth in it.
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Quote from: Count Flapula on June 05, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Bidding £20m+ on a young player with high potential resale value is not stupid in today's market. I acknowledge other bigger name teams are linked with him but it doesn't hurt bidding - what do we have to lose? We have been quoted as looking at Maddison for similar prices - personally I think we need a CB more (not saying I wouldn't take Maddison but agree we can't be flashing too much cash about - if the opportunity cost is bidding on either / or rather than both then I'd go for the CB all day long). We only lose out potentially by not putting an offer in. We may not get him but if you don't but a ticket you don't win the raffle. Ambition is not a dirty word if done in a reasonable way.
I'd just rather not chase unrealistic targets like we did with Lewis Dunk a few summers ago, especially with us needing to sign players ASAP in my opinion. You can't genuinely expect to sign Mawson. Plus there's a lot better value out there in my opinion given as you say he's young, english and highly rated. Personally I think we need to spend/will spend in the region of 60-80 Million this summer.
Mawson is at a relegated team, so he's not an unreasonable target. Rumours that bigger teams want him are just that, rumours and until they place a bid we don't know how accurate they are. Not saying we would sign him but let's not assume he's out of reach.
Furthermore, Arsenal are about to sign a centre back, Liverpool recently signed one and Spurs are well stocked there until they sell one.
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Quote from: Count Flapula on June 05, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Bidding £20m+ on a young player with high potential resale value is not stupid in today's market. I acknowledge other bigger name teams are linked with him but it doesn't hurt bidding - what do we have to lose? We have been quoted as looking at Maddison for similar prices - personally I think we need a CB more (not saying I wouldn't take Maddison but agree we can't be flashing too much cash about - if the opportunity cost is bidding on either / or rather than both then I'd go for the CB all day long). We only lose out potentially by not putting an offer in. We may not get him but if you don't but a ticket you don't win the raffle. Ambition is not a dirty word if done in a reasonable way.
I'd just rather not chase unrealistic targets like we did with Lewis Dunk a few summers ago, especially with us needing to sign players ASAP in my opinion. You can't genuinely expect to sign Mawson. Plus there's a lot better value out there in my opinion given as you say he's young, english and highly rated. Personally I think we need to spend/will spend in the region of 60-80 Million this summer.
Mawson is at a relegated team, so he's not an unreasonable target. Rumours that bigger teams want him are just that, rumours and until they place a bid we don't know how accurate they are. Not saying we would sign him but let's not assume he's out of reach.
Furthermore, Arsenal are about to sign a centre back, Liverpool recently signed one and Spurs are well stocked there until they sell one.
Spurs are selling Alderweireld, Arsenal are signing Sokratis, which leaves them with Sokratis, Mustafi, Holding and Chambers with Koscielny out long-term (and I could see them selling Mustafi), Everton's Centre-Backs are genuinely tragic and Liverpool may want to add to Lovren and Matip as far as partners go for van Dijk.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that he is a possibility for us, but I'd say there's about a 0.01% chance. As I say, I think we'd spend max 80 mill this summer- and Mitrovic would be 20 right off the bat. I can't see us spending 20+ on a Centre-Back.
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Interest in Gönul - concerns about age.
Watch out for movement from Napoli (Elsad Hysaj)
Interest Badelj and Delaney but moves to bigger clubs may suit.
I'm half convinced Mitro will stay but surely won't happen until after the World Cup.
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Quote from: Count Flapula on June 05, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Bidding £20m+ on a young player with high potential resale value is not stupid in today's market. I acknowledge other bigger name teams are linked with him but it doesn't hurt bidding - what do we have to lose? We have been quoted as looking at Maddison for similar prices - personally I think we need a CB more (not saying I wouldn't take Maddison but agree we can't be flashing too much cash about - if the opportunity cost is bidding on either / or rather than both then I'd go for the CB all day long). We only lose out potentially by not putting an offer in. We may not get him but if you don't but a ticket you don't win the raffle. Ambition is not a dirty word if done in a reasonable way.
I'd just rather not chase unrealistic targets like we did with Lewis Dunk a few summers ago, especially with us needing to sign players ASAP in my opinion. You can't genuinely expect to sign Mawson. Plus there's a lot better value out there in my opinion given as you say he's young, english and highly rated. Personally I think we need to spend/will spend in the region of 60-80 Million this summer.
Mawson is at a relegated team, so he's not an unreasonable target. Rumours that bigger teams want him are just that, rumours and until they place a bid we don't know how accurate they are. Not saying we would sign him but let's not assume he's out of reach.
Furthermore, Arsenal are about to sign a centre back, Liverpool recently signed one and Spurs are well stocked there until they sell one.
Spurs are selling Alderweireld, Arsenal are signing Sokratis, which leaves them with Sokratis, Mustafi, Holding and Chambers with Koscielny out long-term (and I could see them selling Mustafi), Everton's Centre-Backs are genuinely tragic and Liverpool may want to add to Lovren and Matip as far as partners go for van Dijk.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that he is a possibility for us, but I'd say there's about a 0.01% chance. As I say, I think we'd spend max 80 mill this summer- and Mitrovic would be 20 right off the bat. I can't see us spending 20+ on a Centre-Back.
It all comes down to whether these clubs would deem him good enough or want to aim higher.
For me the "problem" is the different kind of football we have to play next season ....
There will be more and more of defending football from our team an allot of counter attacks
we need pacy winger and striker (for me Mitro isn`t that kind of player)
I´d love to see Lewis Holtby back at the Cottage ... at his time hera he was very passionate for the club and the fans :)
But he will stay at the relegated HSV :(
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I´d love to see Lewis Holtby back at the Cottage ... at his time hera he was very passionate for the club and the fans :)
But he will stay at the relegated HSV :(
Good shout. My only concern would be was how influential was he at HSV? But I too enjoyed the way he played.
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I´d love to see Lewis Holtby back at the Cottage ... at his time hera he was very passionate for the club and the fans :)
But he will stay at the relegated HSV :(
Let's bring back Jim Stannard and be done with it then...
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For me the "problem" is the different kind of football we have to play next season ....
There will be more and more of defending football from our team an allot of counter attacks
we need pacy winger and striker (for me Mitro isn`t that kind of player)
Mitro holds the ball up and we need that. My only concern is how many goals he'll get, he's not an amazing finisher as many of the goals weren't from powerful shots. He'll need to improve his shooting technique a bit to beat the likes of De Gea and Ederson, etc.
It's the holding play and knocking it down to Sess and our midfielders that Mitro is invaluable for.
Not necessarily just scoring goals imo.
I'd love Maddison, I think he's very, very good.
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It's the holding play and knocking it down to Sess and our midfielders that Mitro is invaluable for.
Not necessarily just scoring goals imo.
:plus one:
And his defending from the front, and at the back in the air for corners, and general commitment and will to win, and strength - defenders are scared of him, they can't bully him, and this sets a tone for the rest of the team.
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I´d love to see Lewis Holtby back at the Cottage ... at his time hera he was very passionate for the club and the fans :)
But he will stay at the relegated HSV :(
Let's bring back Jim Stannard and be done with it then...
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That being said I would take back the two Dembeles.
I heard Bryan Ruiz is available on a free...
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I heard Bryan Ruiz is available on a free...
As long as he brings his hair.
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I heard Bryan Ruiz is available on a free...
As long as he brings his hair.
Between him and Cairney the other midfields in the PL would just be transfixed by the hair.
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As long as he brings his hair.
Between him and Cairney the other midfields in the PL would just be transfixed by the hair.
Perhaps we should sign Jedward then.
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For me the "problem" is the different kind of football we have to play next season ....
There will be more and more of defending football from our team an allot of counter attacks
we need pacy winger and striker (for me Mitro isn`t that kind of player)
Mitro holds the ball up and we need that. My only concern is how many goals he'll get, he's not an amazing finisher as many of the goals weren't from powerful shots. He'll need to improve his shooting technique a bit to beat the likes of De Gea and Ederson, etc.
Seriously?? Some fantastic finishes from him, Sheff Utd, Wolves, Brentford etc, you dont have to break the net
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Interest in Gönul - concerns about age.
Watch out for movement from Napoli (Elsad Hysaj)
Interest Badelj and Delaney but moves to bigger clubs may suit.
I'm half convinced Mitro will stay but surely won't happen until after the World Cup.
I guess if it is true, Hysaj would be a good pickup, and either of Delaney and Badelj would also be good along with Targett and Mitro.
I doubt the veracity of these rumors though. I don't see how we could sign Hysaj or Badelj, Hysaj is a starter at Napoli, and Badelj has a host of clubs with European football chasing after him.
Agent Responds To Reports That Fulham Have Made €4.5m Bid For Turkey International
Fulham were closely linked with a move for Besiktas full-back Gokhan Gonul in the Turkish media yesterday.
Takvim reported that the Cottagers put forward a €4.5 million bid for the Turkey international.
Per the source, Besiktas were considering the offer but had yet to respond to Fulham.
Turkish-Football spoke to Gonul's agent Ahmet Bulut regarding the latest reports.
It turns out that there is no truth to the rumors.
See More: Fulham Make €4.5m Bid For Besiktas Star Gokhan Gonul
Bulut has not been contacted by Fulham or informed by Besiktas about an approach for his client.
The full-back would have been the second Turkey international to join the Premier League from Besiktas inside a season from Besiktas, joining Cenk Tosun, if he were to make the move.
Gonul has another two-years remaining on his contract and is happy in Istanbul.
The Black Eagles are keen on keeping the 33-year-old right-back on over the summer despite rumors that they are nearing a deal with Porto full-back Daniel Opare.
Besiktas finished the league campaign in fourth-place after lifting the league title for the previous two seasons.
The Eagles cruised through the Champions League group stage as undefeated leaders but were unable to defender the title this season.
https://turkish-football.com/agent-responds-reports-fulham-made-e4-5m-bid-turkey-international-gokhan-gonul/
Good, it seemed like an awful lot to pay for a 33 year old that has never left Turkey.
Not sure why we need to spend money on this position when we bought Christie to be our number 1 right back not so long ago. Christie to start with Sess's brother as backup for now. Lets move on and spend elsewhere.
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Not sure why we need to spend money on this position when we bought Christie to be our number 1 right back not so long ago. Christie to start with Sess's brother as backup for now. Lets move on and spend elsewhere.
Plus Denis Odio can play there too
Quote from: the nutflush on June 06, 2018, 12:40:00 PM
Not sure why we need to spend money on this position when we bought Christie to be our number 1 right back not so long ago. Christie to start with Sess's brother as backup for now. Lets move on and spend elsewhere.
Tend to agree. seems like Slav has confidence in Christie as he got on the pitch for some tight moments in the run in. As has been said by others, I think securing Mitro and Targett or another LB, along with a high quality RW are the big ones we need to focus on
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Not sure why we need to spend money on this position when we bought Christie to be our number 1 right back not so long ago. Christie to start with Sess's brother as backup for now. Lets move on and spend elsewhere.
Plus Denis Odio can play there too
Yes of course. Odoi as well. I would much rather see him play right back. There is no way he can play central defence next season. That's where we need to spend some money.
We really do red a good centre back - this position along with Mitro and Targett are the most important Doesn't mean we don't need to strengthen elsewhere but the spine of the team is vital
Nathaniel Clyne from Liverpool now they have Trent & Gomez for RB?
Fulham interested in saints duo, Matt Targett and Soufiane Boufal. With Targett looking likely after the Lilywhites agreed on a £3million transfer fee.
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Fulham interested in saints duo, Matt Targett and Soufiane Boufal. With Targett looking likely after the Lilywhites agreed on a £3million transfer fee.
Good Lord. If we got Targett for 3 million, that's a great bit of business.
Yes indeed, Matt Targett now that would be a good buy, without a doubt.
Also a commanding centre back is a must, a real priority.
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Fulham interested in saints duo, Matt Targett and Soufiane Boufal. With Targett looking likely after the Lilywhites agreed on a £3million transfer fee.
https://twitter.com/chrisophillips
This guy also has Cairney going to West Ham, Gayle going to QPR and a whole 12 followers on twitter.
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Fulham interested in saints duo, Matt Targett and Soufiane Boufal. With Targett looking likely after the Lilywhites agreed on a £3million transfer fee.
https://twitter.com/chrisophillips
This guy also has Cairney going to West Ham, Cairney going to QPR and a whole 12 followers on twitter.
yes and that we are after Hysaj who Man U where interested in and had a £44m release clause and Harry Kane is off to Real Madrid as well, throw enough darts you might hit the bull eyes but think he talking out the Bulls butt, his best tweet is
Christopher Phillips @chrisophillips · 15h15 hours ago
My old account was banned for being "fraudulent" I let you know the deal for lichtsteiner to #afc was done 4 days ago. Sokratis all but confirmed.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
Fulham interested in saints duo, Matt Targett and Soufiane Boufal. With Targett looking likely after the Lilywhites agreed on a £3million transfer fee.
That tweet is from a fake account so I would take no notice of it.
Sky reporting that Leicester have activated Jonny Evans release clause of just £3.5mill. Had hoped that we'd have gone in for him as think he'd be a really good addition - good attitude, great experience and solid defender. Couldn't have complained at that price either.
Bring back Zoltan Gera!!!
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We really do red a good centre back - this position along with Mitro and Targett are the most important Doesn't mean we don't need to strengthen elsewhere but the spine of the team is vital
A lot of us have been calling for a class centre back for a long, long while now.
Jocanovic acted on our call for a good striker by signing Mitrocic in January perhaps he will now realise we a right about a centre back.
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Quote from: Flupp on June 06, 2018, 06:10:53 AM
For me the "problem" is the different kind of football we have to play next season ....
There will be more and more of defending football from our team an allot of counter attacks
we need pacy winger and striker (for me Mitro isn`t that kind of player)
Mitro holds the ball up and we need that. My only concern is how many goals he'll get, he's not an amazing finisher as many of the goals weren't from powerful shots. He'll need to improve his shooting technique a bit to beat the likes of De Gea and Ederson, etc.
Seriously?? Some fantastic finishes from him, Sheff Utd, Wolves, Brentford etc, you dont have to break the net
The keepers are better in the PL, but tbh I was just trying to find one downside. It's not easy with Mitro as he was incredible for us, seems the full package.
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Quote from: the nutflush on June 06, 2018, 12:40:00 PM
Not sure why we need to spend money on this position when we bought Christie to be our number 1 right back not so long ago. Christie to start with Sess's brother as backup for now. Lets move on and spend elsewhere.
Plus Denis Odio can play there too
And we've got Fossey!! The American sprinter who stared alongside Luca DLT last summer in the US youth side.
Tweet is from a fake account however I would be very happy with both Boufal and Targett, Boufal tore Fredericks apart when we played Southampton in the cup, and we know how good Targett is
I feel we need to sign another RB, If we go into the season with Christie and Sess as back up this is IMO not good enough.
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
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BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
That'd be handy, especially at that price.
Whatever the truth of this may be we need to sort out a little bit of a log-jam of keepers. All good but none of proven top quality (yet).
Button, a bit older than and perhaps not so good as, Betts, is a good bet to move on.
Norman seems the current established no.3.
But is he better than the returning Rodak? Rotherham would love to have him back - and, as Rotherham are now in the Championship, that might suit us.
Ashby-Hammond was probably the best keeper on view in the recent UEFA u17s and should cement the u23 job for us next season.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
Give them Button and get Norwood in return, win win really.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
4 million? This really is the silly season.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
They're welcome to him for that price.
Also, "starlet" seems to have lost all meaning.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
Button to Brighton not beyond the realms of possibility.. but £4m?? We would sell for around £1m I would think, wouldn't we?
Agreed regarding overuse of starlet. Surely it's meaning is "future star"? As in piglet?
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 06, 2018, 07:13:56 AM
Quote from: Flupp on June 06, 2018, 06:10:53 AM
For me the "problem" is the different kind of football we have to play next season ....
There will be more and more of defending football from our team an allot of counter attacks
we need pacy winger and striker (for me Mitro isn`t that kind of player)
Mitro holds the ball up and we need that. My only concern is how many goals he'll get, he's not an amazing finisher as many of the goals weren't from powerful shots. He'll need to improve his shooting technique a bit to beat the likes of De Gea and Ederson, etc.
Bobby Zamora did it. Fact.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 06, 2018, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
Fulham interested in saints duo, Matt Targett and Soufiane Boufal. With Targett looking likely after the Lilywhites agreed on a £3million transfer fee.
Good Lord. If we got Targett for 3 million, that's a great bit of business.
Bite your hand off at £3m.
The deal must involve Ollie
Talksorts...Fulham too late to stop Everton Keeper Joel Robles move to Getafe😵
Quote from: WolverineFFC on June 06, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
4 million? This really is the silly season.
Not really Silly at today's prices...Button is a decent keeper.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 06:19:45 AM
Not really Silly at today's prices...Button is a decent keeper.
Have to agree - Grealish is priced at £40m by Villa, allegedly....
What about Shaqiri ??? I think Fulham would fit him well :)
Quote from: Flupp on June 07, 2018, 07:19:27 AM
What about Shaqiri ??? I think Fulham would fit him well :)
Might be just out of the wage budget, would be an excellent signing though!
Quote from: OMalleyCat on June 07, 2018, 07:46:03 AM
Quote from: Flupp on June 07, 2018, 07:19:27 AM
What about Shaqiri ??? I think Fulham would fit him well :)
Might be just out of the wage budget, would be an excellent signing though!
According to today's reports Liverpool in for him.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on June 07, 2018, 07:46:03 AM
Quote from: Flupp on June 07, 2018, 07:19:27 AM
What about Shaqiri ??? I think Fulham would fit him well :)
Might be just out of the wage budget, would be an excellent signing though!
According to today's reports Liverpool in for him.
Possible move to Wolves with Afobe going the other way??
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on June 07, 2018, 07:46:03 AM
Quote from: Flupp on June 07, 2018, 07:19:27 AM
What about Shaqiri ??? I think Fulham would fit him well :)
Might be just out of the wage budget, would be an excellent signing though!
According to today's reports Liverpool in for him.
If you're a Liverpool fan that would be an underwhelming signing.
According to this, Fulham and Mainz are interested in Malian striker Adama Niane, 24.
Scored 8 goals in Ligue 1 this season for Troyes who got relegated.
Scored 23 goals in Ligue 2 last season to get them promoted.
http://bamada.net/nos-expatries-fc-malines-yacouba-sylla-sur-le-depart
We're apparently interested in Marko Grujic. Think he'd be a good fit, but don't see Liverpool selling him.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/07/do-report-fulham-want-liverpool-midfielder-marko-grujic/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/07/do-report-fulham-want-liverpool-midfielder-marko-grujic/)
Quote from: toshes mate on June 07, 2018, 06:33:07 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 06:19:45 AM
Not really Silly at today's prices...Button is a decent keeper.
Have to agree - Grealish is priced at £40m by Villa, allegedly....
I heard Palace value Zaha at 70m. The worlds going to spin off its axis....
Quote from: the nutflush on June 07, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 07, 2018, 06:33:07 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 06:19:45 AM
Not really Silly at today's prices...Button is a decent keeper.
Have to agree - Grealish is priced at £40m by Villa, allegedly....
I heard Palace value Zaha at 70m. The worlds going to spin off its axis....
Agree. That must mean Woodrow is now worth a tenner.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 06:19:45 AM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on June 06, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
BRIGHTON boss Chris Hughton is bidding to sign Fulham keeper David Button in a surprise move.
Hughton wants the former Tottenham starlet as cover and competition for Mat Ryan and hopes to agree a £4million fee this week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6466988/brighton-david-button-fulham-chris-hughton/
4 million? This really is the silly season.
Not really Silly at today's prices...Button is a decent keeper.
Decent to below average Championship keeper. Seems like the kind of thing a Premier League team could get for a lot less than 4 mill. I don't believe the price, just like I don't believe the 3 million for Targett. Silly.
I would bite their hand off for Targett at that price. Obviously some bs merchant spreading that story.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/endendevertraege
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler
Quote from: grandad on June 07, 2018, 01:00:03 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on June 07, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 07, 2018, 06:33:07 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 07, 2018, 06:19:45 AM
Not really Silly at today's prices...Button is a decent keeper.
Have to agree - Grealish is priced at £40m by Villa, allegedly....
I heard Palace value Zaha at 70m. The worlds going to spin off its axis....
Agree. That must mean Woodrow is now worth a tenner.
isn't he the only one of our players to score in the Prem?
Quote from: fulhamfever on June 07, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler
Would take Song, Joel Campbell and Wollscheid in a heartbeat
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Quote from: fulhamben on June 07, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Quote from: grandad on June 07, 2018, 01:00:03 PM
Agree. That must mean Woodrow is now worth a tenner.
isn't he the only one of our players to score in the Prem?
He sure is.
...At least to score for us. Kevin 'The Scourge of The Etihad' McDonald got one for Burnley against City a thousand years ago.
As a former Burnley player he must be the only living Fulham man to know what it is like to win at Turf Moor.
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Quote from: fulhamfever on June 07, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler
Would take Song, Joel Campbell and Wollscheid in a heartbeat
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What about Rui Patricio
trico, only 30 years of age which is nothing for a keeper
Looks like Wolves are keen on him
Seen a lot of Grujic, I rate him. Athletic, great technique, lots of potential, but sometimes rash, decision making sometimes a bit questionable. He's still learning his trade though
Wouldn't have a chance for Patricio, other clubs will be circling that can offer a lot more than we can both in terms of money and European ambition
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Quote from: Flupp on June 07, 2018, 07:19:27 AM
What about Shaqiri ??? I think Fulham would fit him well :)
This would be a great signing. Classy player with Prem XP. Scores goals, gets assists, great footballing brain. Bring it on
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If anyone had any doubt this was the Silly Season?
Newly promoted Serie A side Parma are lining up a move for Stoke's former England striker Peter Crouch, 37. (Calciomercato via Talksport)
I think Filip Kostic from relegated Bundesliga side HSV would be a great signing. He was often the only daylight in an very bad team.
Quote from: Flupp on June 08, 2018, 06:16:28 AM
I think Filip Kostic from relegated Bundesliga side HSV would be a great signing. He was often the only daylight in an very bad team.
So Hamburg finally went down did they,escaped last couple of seasons.
They were the last remaining Bundesliga side never to be relegated.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 08, 2018, 06:21:46 AM
Quote from: Flupp on June 08, 2018, 06:16:28 AM
I think Filip Kostic from relegated Bundesliga side HSV would be a great signing. He was often the only daylight in an very bad team.
So Hamburg finally went down did they,escaped last couple of seasons.
They were the last remaining Bundesliga side never to be relegated.
Yes ... they we`re the last (founding Bundesliga Team) that was ever since playing in the highest division. Temas like Bayern etc we`re never relegated too but there not playing in the bundesliga from day one like the HSV
I live here in Germany and there are some good players FULHAM should have an eye on....
Not really new news but noteworthy......
https://www.westlondonsport.com/chelsea/fulham-keen-to-sign-chelsea-duo
Sky Sports Transfer Centre (hardly news though)
11:05
FULHAM KEEN ON DEALS
Fulham want to keep their promotion-winning core together next season and will try to sign the loan players that helped make it happen on permanent deals this summer, Sky Sports News understands.
The Whites are keen to land Chelsea duo Tomas Kalas and Lucas Piazon, Brighton's Oliver Norwood, Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic and Southampton left-back Matt Targett after their successful season-long spells at Craven Cottage.
£12m for Kalas and Piazon
£3m for Norwood
£7.5m for Targett
£20m for Mitro
I am expecting therefore £45m to be shelled out keeping our squad together. Do we really need Piazon, even Kalas? I do not see Khan spending over £50m in total so something's got to give if we want a big, playmaking central defender from some village in the south of Venezuela.
Anybody think Chester from Villa would be a good buy as they are hard up at the moment? No idea how much he would cost though.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 08, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
Anybody think Chester from Villa would be a good buy as they are hard up at the moment? No idea how much he would cost though.
Chester would be a great buy as plenty PL experience.
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
I don't get the immense love for Piazon, Kalas and Norwood. For sure they were valuable squad players who would start for most Championship sides. Apparently they were great teammates too. But they weren't in our regular starting XI that ultimately got us promoted. Personally, I think we should aim higher than that.
Upgrading all positions is unrealistic, but at least we should bring in players who can push our current starters. I'd rather have a player to realistically push Johansen or McDonald and not Norwood, who has proven to be okay but clearly a class below our current starters. Piazon isn't very dynamic in attack, and defensively he tries hard but that's about it. Kalas I could imagine in the same role again as 3rd backup CB. Ultimately I think doing permanent deals for Chelski loan army members is far too expensive. We can find similar players abroad for much less.
Conversely, I'd overpay for Targett and Mitro as they've proven their great value under Jokane. Basically those were the two players that jumpstarted our unbeaten run. Both are fairly young and can still improve, so I wouldn't mind overpaying.
The squad is bare and we need squad players as well as first eleven. So if the price is right all loan players could be signed IMO
Quote from: Milo on June 08, 2018, 11:12:39 AM
£12m for Kalas and Piazon
£3m for Norwood
£7.5m for Targett
£20m for Mitro
I am expecting therefore £45m to be shelled out keeping our squad together. Do we really need Piazon, even Kalas? I do not see Khan spending over £50m in total so something's got to give if we want a big, playmaking central defender from some village in the south of Venezuela.
I'd be suprised if slav wanted to waste a huge part of our budget on kalas. He didn't fancy him In our system in the championship so that's not gonna magically change now we are in the Prem. Surely must be a better option for the reported 10 million asking fee. That one hell of an expensive squad player
Brighton don't think Norwood is PL quality. Hence the loan to us.
tbh, I agree with them.
He's not good enough to play for us in the PL imo.
Piazon and kalas are not good enough for PL
Kalas couldn't get in the team championship likewise piazon, signing them would be a step back not upgrading in quality and strength in depth.
Mitro and targett yes please.Olly take him he can cover the bases for stefjo and Kev mac.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/08/do-report-fulham-want-chelseas-tomas-kalas-for-cheaper-than-85m/
Report: Fulham want Chelsea's Tomas Kalas for cheaper than £8.5m
Newly-promoted Premier League club Fulham are set to enter negotiations with local rivals Chelsea for Tomas Kalas.
Fulham reportedly have five transfer targets and they are all players the fans know very well.
According to Sky Sports, the newly-promoted Londoners are keen to sign the loanees that helped bring an end to their four-year exile from the Premier League: Aleksandar Mitrovic, Matt Targett, Oliver Norwood, Lucas Piazon and Tomas Kalas.
Interestingly, Fulham have the option to sign Kalas for £8.5 million after two successful seasons at Craven Cottage from west London neighbours Chelsea.
The 6ft Czech centre-back, who has made just two Premier League appearances in eight years at Stamford Bridge, has proved himself in English football at Fulham and was a regular in Slavisa Jokanovic's defence since arriving in the summer of 2016.
Despite this, however, Sky Sports reports that Fulham do not want to pay £8.5 million for Kalas and are hoping to sign him for cheaper this summer.Therefore, they are aiming to enter negotiations with Chelsea in order to try to land the 25-year-old on a reduced fee, but it remains to be seen whether the Premier League giants are willing to play ball.
SEE ALSO: Report: Fulham could lose another of their promotion heroes in £4m deal
Fulham will have to pay far more than £8.5 million if they want to land Mitrovic, however, with the Mirror (May 31, page 57) stating that Newcastle United want £20 million for a striker who scored 12 times in 18 starts on loan for the Cottagers.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 08, 2018, 02:41:45 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/08/do-report-fulham-want-chelseas-tomas-kalas-for-cheaper-than-85m/
Report: Fulham want Chelsea's Tomas Kalas for cheaper than £8.5m
Newly-promoted Premier League club Fulham are set to enter negotiations with local rivals Chelsea for Tomas Kalas.
Fulham reportedly have five transfer targets and they are all players the fans know very well.
According to Sky Sports, the newly-promoted Londoners are keen to sign the loanees that helped bring an end to their four-year exile from the Premier League: Aleksandar Mitrovic, Matt Targett, Oliver Norwood, Lucas Piazon and Tomas Kalas.
Interestingly, Fulham have the option to sign Kalas for £8.5 million after two successful seasons at Craven Cottage from west London neighbours Chelsea.
The 6ft Czech centre-back, who has made just two Premier League appearances in eight years at Stamford Bridge, has proved himself in English football at Fulham and was a regular in Slavisa Jokanovic's defence since arriving in the summer of 2016.
Despite this, however, Sky Sports reports that Fulham do not want to pay £8.5 million for Kalas and are hoping to sign him for cheaper this summer.Therefore, they are aiming to enter negotiations with Chelsea in order to try to land the 25-year-old on a reduced fee, but it remains to be seen whether the Premier League giants are willing to play ball.
SEE ALSO: Report: Fulham could lose another of their promotion heroes in £4m deal
Fulham will have to pay far more than £8.5 million if they want to land Mitrovic, however, with the Mirror (May 31, page 57) stating that Newcastle United want £20 million for a striker who scored 12 times in 18 starts on loan for the Cottagers.
Kalas at £6m is good business for me. Knows the system and has had good performances for us. Some errors but has shown he can also carry the ball out from the back on occasion. Happy to have him as one of 3 CB's, with Ream and a starter coming in. Piazon I sort of like but wouldn't part with much cash for him. Mitro for 20m is good business and Targett for around 6m also about right but fear they will ask for more. Norwood was very solid in his but unless very cheap he can also go.
If we are going off a ~50m budget, that leaves us about 20 to play with. Would love a marquee signing to play on the right up top and/or next to Ream but safe to say this is going to be a very interesting window for us.... at least I hope it is!
https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/fulham-stay-newcastles-aleksandar-mitrovic-confirms-preferred-destination/ (https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/fulham-stay-newcastles-aleksandar-mitrovic-confirms-preferred-destination/)
Seems pretty positive regarding Mitro. Hopefully we can get this deal done early.
I think the issue is we need squad as well as 1st team players and I can't see 50M covering that if we want to improve on the squad from last season.
Don't worry. As per usual I expect us to make significant use of the loan system again this window.
Therefore £50M should be more than enough to obtain the players we want with loans for the remaining players needed.
For me I hope the permanents are first team starters and the loans are squad players
We may do but I think we can only have 2 from Prem clubs, so I guess a few from across Europe.
Wouldn't mind Kalas for around £5 million. He's a good rotation option. He's also just turned 25 so has time to adjust to the Prem. He certainly has the physical tools, he just hasn't to put it together mentally yet.
Bring in Kalas and a starting quality Prem CB and I think we'll have what we need at that position.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
Believe the name you're searching for is Festus.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 08, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
Believe the name you're searching for is Festus.
Yes that's right Festus took Chester's place, Chester had a limp.
If we can get a package deal for Piazon and Kalas for £10 million or less I'd be pretty happy. They're both players that fit in with the group and we need more bodies.
I would be quite happy to see all 5 come back. Mitro was quality for us if they want 20m I personally believe we should pay that. Targett for 10m would be a good pick up I feel especially given his age. I actually like Kalas he was good before the injury & ultimately Odoi done well when he come in but 6/7m for him is a good solid signing. Piazon I feel struggled after January but he has clear talent & I feel a bit like Fonte he will do better in the Premier League where there is more time on the ball. Norwood again is another one we could upgrade on but for 4/5m that's a good squad signing experienced player who won't let you down & is very good on set pieces. Would be happy to see all 5 come back with 1 more striker & a CB of a good level brought in would see us in a good position I feel.
In addition to the prospect of paying out sizeable transfer fees to try & secure the likes of Mitro, Targett & one or two surprises, plus maybe one or two good loanees, I'm also hoping that we can boost our squad by picking up a couple of decent out of contract players. No idea what opportunities there may be on this front though.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 08, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
Believe the name you're searching for is Festus.
Wasnt Festus the uncle in The Addams Family
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 08, 2018, 05:05:57 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 08, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
Believe the name you're searching for is Festus.
Wasnt Festus the uncle in The Addams Family
Are you trying to tell me there is more than one Festus.
Quote from: MrFFC on June 08, 2018, 04:46:16 PM
I would be quite happy to see all 5 come back. Mitro was quality for us if they want 20m I personally believe we should pay that. Targett for 10m would be a good pick up I feel especially given his age. I actually like Kalas he was good before the injury & ultimately Odoi done well when he come in but 6/7m for him is a good solid signing. Piazon I feel struggled after January but he has clear talent & I feel a bit like Fonte he will do better in the Premier League where there is more time on the ball. Norwood again is another one we could upgrade on but for 4/5m that's a good squad signing experienced player who won't let you down & is very good on set pieces. Would be happy to see all 5 come back with 1 more striker & a CB of a good level brought in would see us in a good position I feel.
I'm with you. Talk of players being "premier league quality" is all well and good. But our fans are expecting our somewhat idiosyncratic style to be continued in the premier league and having players who don't need a foundation course in it will help. We will still need some new players even if signing all five.
Quote from: Carborundum on June 08, 2018, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: MrFFC on June 08, 2018, 04:46:16 PM
I would be quite happy to see all 5 come back. Mitro was quality for us if they want 20m I personally believe we should pay that. Targett for 10m would be a good pick up I feel especially given his age. I actually like Kalas he was good before the injury & ultimately Odoi done well when he come in but 6/7m for him is a good solid signing. Piazon I feel struggled after January but he has clear talent & I feel a bit like Fonte he will do better in the Premier League where there is more time on the ball. Norwood again is another one we could upgrade on but for 4/5m that's a good squad signing experienced player who won't let you down & is very good on set pieces. Would be happy to see all 5 come back with 1 more striker & a CB of a good level brought in would see us in a good position I feel.
I'm with you. Talk of players being "premier league quality" is all well and good. But our fans are expecting our somewhat idiosyncratic style to be continued in the premier league and having players who don't need a foundation course in it will help. We will still need some new players even if signing all five.
C*****a didn't buy Kalas and Piazon because they didn't think they were up to it. Piazon has shown his commitment, character and guts by coming back so quickly from two nasty injuries. If possible I'd say sign the lot to keep the essence of the team together and top up with a few class strategic signings.
It shouldn't be forgotten that - almost to a man - this forum rejoiced at Kline's departure and the fact that Jokanovic would have a far greater input in to whom to bring to the Club.
If we do sign Kalas, Piazon and Norwood, therefore, we must presume that this is at Jokanovic's behest. Admittedly, just because we all prefer our manager to be prioritising our transfer targets, doesn't mean that he is incapable of making a mistake. Nonetheless, in view of what he has achieved, were Slavisa to decide that he wants these players, I don't see how anyone can be too critical before a Premier League ball has even been kicked.
Joe Flanagan anyone? Free is goood...
Quote from: mlangstrom on June 08, 2018, 11:02:38 PM
Joe Flanagan anyone? Free is goood...
Wifebeater and looked mediocre at Bolton. No thank you.
Quote from: mlangstrom on June 08, 2018, 11:02:38 PM
Joe Flanagan anyone? Free is goood...
Ok, so everyone ought to be given a second chance, but i'm not aware of any remorse. Bolton fans were generally against him joining on loan. I looked at their website at the time.
Quote from: Tabby on June 08, 2018, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on June 08, 2018, 11:02:38 PM
Joe Flanagan anyone? Free is goood...
Wifebeater and looked mediocre at Bolton. No thank you.
Yes keep him well away.
Mitro Targett kalas will all be great signings coming back. Would love to see us really make a move for James Maddison I think he would be great for Fulham. What about Nathaniel Clyne from Liverpool??
http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/canaries-transfer-rumours-josh-murphy-brighton-fulham-middlesbrough-1-5554613
Norwich City transfer rumours: Brighton and Fulham track Josh Murphy
Chris Hughton is reportedly weighing up a reunion with Josh Murphy - but faces competition from Premier League new boys Fulham and Championship Middlesbrough.
Murphy has emerged as a target for the Brighton chief, who handed the 23-year-old his top flight debut at Norwich City when the pair worked together at Carrow Road.
Football web site, Here is The City, claim on Saturday morning the Canaries' wide player is attracting interest from a number of clubs after some eye-catching displays last season.
No bids have been launched yet according to HITC but Boro chief Tony Pulis is also believed to be monitoring the situation as he looks to bring in players in wide areas. The Teessiders have already been linked to moves for former player Albert Adomah and West Brom's Matt Phillips.
Fulham have also been touted with Murphy's team mate, James Maddison, in the early part of the summer as they step up their planning for a Premier League return following Championship play-off success.
Murphy scored a stunning goal in the Championship win over Aston Villa and was also on the mark in the League Cup tie at Arsenal during a campaign when he notched 11 goals in 47 appearances.
HITC report City's top brass is reluctant to cash in on Murphy, who is under contract until 2021, but Norwich will need to offload players to bring in reinforcements.
Emi Buendia was unveiled on Friday, ahead of completing a move from Getafe on July 1. The Argentine can operate down either flank and in the number 10 role. City also brought in Onel Hernandez in January, while Marley Watkins and Yanic Wildschut remain on the books.
Murphy's brother, Jacob, was sold to Newcastle 12 months ago with City adjusting to the new financial reality after falling out of the Premier League.
The club's trading again this summer will be dictated by the need to lower the wage bill and bring in a transfer surplus, while trying to bolster Daniel Farke's squad for the new season.
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 08, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
Believe the name you're searching for is Festus.
Wasnt Festus the uncle in The Addams Family
Are you trying to tell me there is more than one Festus.
Festus is a city in Jefferson County, Missouri, United States. It had a population of 11,602 as of the 2010 census. Festus and its particular neighbor Crystal City are often collectively known as the "Twin Cities"; however they are actually incorporated separately
Sounds like poor old Norwich are getting raided just as they hit their stride. Their chairman will need to be strong.
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 09, 2018, 11:16:10 AM
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 08, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
Wasn't Chester in Gun Law with Matt Dillon, Doc and Kitty ?
Believe the name you're searching for is Festus.
Wasnt Festus the uncle in The Addams Family
Are you trying to tell me there is more than one Festus.
Festus is a city in Jefferson County, Missouri, United States. It had a population of 11,602 as of the 2010 census. Festus and its particular neighbor Crystal City are often collectively known as the "Twin Cities"; however they are actually incorporated separately
Festus in Latin means Festive and Happy.
Josh Murphy looks a class act. If we sign him the I hope he has the same number as Danny so I will not need a new shirt. His team mate James Maddison is also a class act. App he is big mates with Ryan Sess.
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Let us take them both in a double swoop, now we have the budget and the status.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5824245/Fulham-trigger-Joe-Bennetts-2m-Cardiff-City-release-clause.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5824245/Fulham-trigger-Joe-Bennetts-2m-Cardiff-City-release-clause.html
Fulham to trigger Joe Bennett's £2m Cardiff City release clause but Neil Warnock wants him to stay in Wales
Fulham are prepared to trigger the £2million release clause for Cardiff City defender Joe Bennett.
The 28-year-old left-back has a year left on his contract and manager Neil Warnock wants him to stay.
Fulham made an attempt to sign Bennett last season but he stayed to help steer Cardiff out of the Championship.
Warnock is looking to bolster his squad in preparation for next season but faces stiff competition over the wages on offer from other clubs.
Fulham want to give Salvisa Jokanovic a fighting chance of making an impact in the top flight and will try again for Bennett.
They are looking to tie up some of their loans to permanent deals also with fees for Chelsea's Tomas Kalas and Lucas Piazon on the agenda plus Aleksandar Mitrovic from Newcastle and Matt Targett of Southampton
I can't help thinking this transfer speculation is a touch premature. Are we yet sure Jok will be staying (the Chelsea rumour persists)? Our signings, and some are clearly necessary, should surely follow confirmation of who is going to manage us when the Premier season kicks off.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 09, 2018, 12:40:05 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5824245/Fulham-trigger-Joe-Bennetts-2m-Cardiff-City-release-clause.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5824245/Fulham-trigger-Joe-Bennetts-2m-Cardiff-City-release-clause.html
Fulham to trigger Joe Bennett's £2m Cardiff City release clause but Neil Warnock wants him to stay in Wales
Fulham are prepared to trigger the £2million release clause for Cardiff City defender Joe Bennett.
The 28-year-old left-back has a year left on his contract and manager Neil Warnock wants him to stay.
Fulham made an attempt to sign Bennett last season but he stayed to help steer Cardiff out of the Championship.
Warnock is looking to bolster his squad in preparation for next season but faces stiff competition over the wages on offer from other clubs.
Fulham want to give Salvisa Jokanovic a fighting chance of making an impact in the top flight and will try again for Bennett.
They are looking to tie up some of their loans to permanent deals also with fees for Chelsea's Tomas Kalas and Lucas Piazon on the agenda plus Aleksandar Mitrovic from Newcastle and Matt Targett of Southampton
Wonder if it might be worth going to Cardiff with an offer for Joe Ralls. I have a feeling he'd welcome a move back to the South East.
Quote from: Madman Maddle on June 08, 2018, 12:41:21 PM
I don't get the immense love for Piazon, Kalas and Norwood. For sure they were valuable squad players who would start for most Championship sides. Apparently they were great teammates too. But they weren't in our regular starting XI that ultimately got us promoted. Personally, I think we should aim higher than that.
Upgrading all positions is unrealistic, but at least we should bring in players who can push our current starters. I'd rather have a player to realistically push Johansen or McDonald and not Norwood, who has proven to be okay but clearly a class below our current starters. Piazon isn't very dynamic in attack, and defensively he tries hard but that's about it. Kalas I could imagine in the same role again as 3rd backup CB. Ultimately I think doing permanent deals for Chelski loan army members is far too expensive. We can find similar players abroad for much less.
Conversely, I'd overpay for Targett and Mitro as they've proven their great value under Jokane. Basically those were the two players that jumpstarted our unbeaten run. Both are fairly young and can still improve, so I wouldn't mind overpaying.
100% agree with this post.
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 09, 2018, 01:31:33 PM
Quote from: Madman Maddle on June 08, 2018, 12:41:21 PM
I don't get the immense love for Piazon, Kalas and Norwood. For sure they were valuable squad players who would start for most Championship sides. Apparently they were great teammates too. But they weren't in our regular starting XI that ultimately got us promoted. Personally, I think we should aim higher than that.
Upgrading all positions is unrealistic, but at least we should bring in players who can push our current starters. I'd rather have a player to realistically push Johansen or McDonald and not Norwood, who has proven to be okay but clearly a class below our current starters. Piazon isn't very dynamic in attack, and defensively he tries hard but that's about it. Kalas I could imagine in the same role again as 3rd backup CB. Ultimately I think doing permanent deals for Chelski loan army members is far too expensive. We can find similar players abroad for much less.
Conversely, I'd overpay for Targett and Mitro as they've proven their great value under Jokane. Basically those were the two players that jumpstarted our unbeaten run. Both are fairly young and can still improve, so I wouldn't mind overpaying.
100% agree with this post.
Also agree with another poster who highlighted the need to have a squad foundation who don't need to be "inducted" into the philosophy for a season. Eg Kamara no good in first half of season but came good in second. Ayite doesn't set the world alight but filled a hole well until AK came alive.
A lot could depend on who Fulham/Joka think could step into the first team squad from the under 23 and 18's.
We need to try and keep the team together that rinsed the season and upgrade central defence and right sided attack. Obviously we have lost Fred, but is Cyrus as good, maybe he is ?
We also need to get Sess to sign an improved contract extending him a few more years.
Yohan Cabaye to fulham linked on a free transfer on twitter. Think he would be good in a Joka system
Quote from: supersimmo123 on June 09, 2018, 02:25:43 PM
Yohan Cabaye to fulham linked on a free transfer on twitter. Think he would be good in a Joka system
Currently on £100k a week
32 years of age
Good luck
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5824373/Fulham-Everton-eye-French-defender-Issa-Diop-helping-Toulouse-stay-Ligue-1.html
Fulham and Everton eye move for French defender Issa Diop after helping Toulouse stay in Ligue 1
Fulham and Everton are among the clubs who have checked on Toulouse defender Issa Diop.
The 21-year-old has also been followed by Arsenal, Tottenham, Inter Milan and Barcelona over the past few months.
Diop is 6ft 4ins tall, good in the air, adept on the ball and quick. He has been capped at U21 level and is considered a leader at Toulouse where he has helped them to stay in the top flight of French football.
Toulouse recognise he is one of their most saleable assets and are willing to listen to offers but want £26million.
Fulham are eyeing defensive options as they look to stay in the Premier League after earning promotion from the Championship.
Meanwhile, Marco Silva is chasing new signings as he looks to improve his Everton squad after taking over from Sam Allardyce.
I love a diop
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 09, 2018, 02:50:15 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5824373/Fulham-Everton-eye-French-defender-Issa-Diop-helping-Toulouse-stay-Ligue-1.html
Fulham and Everton eye move for French defender Issa Diop after helping Toulouse stay in Ligue 1
Fulham and Everton are among the clubs who have checked on Toulouse defender Issa Diop.
The 21-year-old has also been followed by Arsenal, Tottenham, Inter Milan and Barcelona over the past few months.
Diop is 6ft 4ins tall, good in the air, adept on the ball and quick. He has been capped at U21 level and is considered a leader at Toulouse where he has helped them to stay in the top flight of French football.
Toulouse recognise he is one of their most saleable assets and are willing to listen to offers but want £26million.
Fulham are eyeing defensive options as they look to stay in the Premier League after earning promotion from the Championship.
Meanwhile, Marco Silva is chasing new signings as he looks to improve his Everton squad after taking over from Sam Allardyce.
This would be quite a coup, he's already a very decent player and will probably be playing champions league football regularly in a few years.
Interested in grealish now.
Maddison or Grealish? I'm not sure who'd I'd prefer. Probably Maddison for me
Quote from: Rambler on June 09, 2018, 04:54:37 PM
Interested in grealish now.
Maddison or Grealish? I'm not sure who'd I'd prefer. Probably Maddison for me
Good question was thinking this earlier, Tough one. Probably Grealish I think. Close tho
064.gif £26m for a DEFENDER! Never gonna happen!!
😀😀👍⚽ doesn't shout sustainability to me!!
I like the idea of utilising our U23's!
COYW
I wish we'd push through the Mitrovic deal before the World Cup. He could cost a lot more afterwards
If we sign Issa, surely we should come up with a utility and storage-inspired nickname for him just like we did for Bouba?
Mitro would be priced out of the market if his price went up too much. We know he is good and would probably do a job for us but championship sides it is no at 20m. Even prem sides who is going to risk more?
http://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/division-1a/standard/le-standard-aura-du-mal-a-garder-edmilson-5b1ae00455326301e77750b8
Supposedly interested in Standard Liege winger Edmilson Junior
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
Quote from: HV71 on June 09, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
Absolutely ....... if we capture Wardrobe Mk 2, Grealish and Mitrovic...... what a spine to the side ! (Have to trust Jokanovic to shoehorn Grealish and Cairney into the same eleven).
Find an International keeper (Italy's is fantastic...... we can dream) and 10th place at least is 👍
I can't see Grealish joining us after the play off final?
What would peoples ideal window actually look like? Genuinely curious with all of the opinions on here. Personally I think we'll spend about 80 mill (give or take) and would look at something like this;
Joel Robles (Cover/Starting GK, Free)
Moritz Bauer (Starting RB, 8 mill)
Matt Targett (Starting LB, 5-6 mill)
Fabian Schar (Starting CB, 6 mill)
Christian Luyindama (Cover CB, 4 mill)
Badou Ndiaye (Starting CM, 15 mill)
Oliver Norwood (Cover CM, 3-4 mill)
Adama Traore (Starting RW, 15 mill)
Mitrovic (Starting ST, 20 mill)
That works out at 78 million, and then if we could get another 10 or so from the sales of Button, Cisse, Kebano plus whenever that McCormack money comes in I'd look at someone like Rondon with his 16 mill release clause as a rotation/potential starter option if Mitrovic struggles in the Prem.
We are interested in Henderson, young Man U goalkeeper who was on loan to Shrewsbury last season. He can be an outstanding keeper on his day but is mad as a box of frogs..good team man. I see quite a bit of the Shrews as I live in Shropshire.
Quote from: HV71 on June 09, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
He isn't
Apparently West Brom are looking into Bobby Reid, price quoted is £7m. I'd be happy to get him in at that price, looked class when we played them.
Quote from: Deuce on June 09, 2018, 07:56:53 PM
If we sign Issa, surely we should come up with a utility and storage-inspired nickname for him just like we did for Bouba?
Sideboard
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: HV71 on June 09, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
He isn't
Is Jokanovic not deciding whom he would like to bring into the Club? I ask because (i) it would surprise me if he were not; (ii) I don't know the answer.
While I can imagine that Jokanovic may not have the final say on how much we pay for a player or what salary we're prepared to offer, surely Khan Jnr has learnt enough from the Kline saga to realise that Slavisa knows best which players are most likely to complement our style of football.
Quote from: Arthur on June 10, 2018, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: HV71 on June 09, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
He isn't
Is Jokanovic not deciding whom he would like to bring into the Club? I ask because (i) it would surprise me if he were not; (ii) I don't know the answer.
While I can imagine that Jokanovic may not have the final say on how much we pay for a player or what salary we're prepared to offer, surely Khan Jnr has learnt enough from the Kline saga to realise that Slavisa knows best which players are most likely to complement our style of football.
We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.
Thank you for answering my query.
The specific point about which I am unsure is whether it is possible for the other parties in the tick-box process to 'out-vote' Jokanovic and bring in a player whom he does not want. My assumption is that, while Slavisa may not get every player for whom he asks, every player who signs is someone whom he wants. Is this much true?
West Ham United have called an end to their hunt for Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney after the newly-promoted club refused to discuss an exit, according to Claret and Hugh.
The Hammers news website, which is a reliable source for insider information, report that the club made solid enquiries about the Fulham captain but were met with a 'flat no.'
Claret and Hugh claim that Manuel Pellegrini gave quick-fire approval to a move for Cairney immediately after his appointment, with predecessor David Moyes putting the wheels in motion for a swoop.
A club insider is quoted as saying: "We tried but there was absolutely no movement on the issue at all – they refuse to sell the player."
This is a major development in a chase that has lasted several months, with Moyes eyeing Cairney during his time at the helm.
Quote from: Arthur on June 10, 2018, 11:02:09 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.
Thank you for answering my query.
The specific point about which I am unsure is whether it is possible for the other parties in the tick-box process to 'out-vote' Jokanovic and bring in a player whom he does not want. My assumption is that, while Slavisa may not get every player for whom he asks, every player who signs is someone whom he wants. Is this much true?
You would think, and hope, so. Anecdotally, such an approach has failed in the past as SJ hasn't played certain players.
Quote from: Holders on June 10, 2018, 11:08:30 AM
Quote from: Arthur on June 10, 2018, 11:02:09 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.
Thank you for answering my query.
The specific point about which I am unsure is whether it is possible for the other parties in the tick-box process to 'out-vote' Jokanovic and bring in a player whom he does not want. My assumption is that, while Slavisa may not get every player for whom he asks, every player who signs is someone whom he wants. Is this much true?
You would think, and hope, so. Anecdotally, such an approach has failed in the past as SJ hasn't played certain players.
I sincerely hope everybody has learned the lessons of the mistakes of a good few years and some useful, thoughtful, and productive conversation takes place before anybody resorts to ticking boxes.
Still rumblings about us wanting Grealish.
If he was our standout purchase of this window my head wouldn't come out of my hands for weeks (especially if we paid the fee they want).
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 10, 2018, 11:31:30 AM
Still rumblings about us wanting Grealish.
If he was our standout purchase of this window my head wouldn't come out of my hands for weeks (especially if we paid the fee they want).
He's a good player who needs to be coached to remain standing when looked at. He also seems to be a whinging pansy.
To me it's quite simple - use a 4-box system if you wish but stats and scouting are advisory inputs with SJ and finance the only elements having a veto.
Not sure this tick the box policy is going to remain in the same form as last season. Jokanovics influence on proceedings must have improved greatly ,as he has totally proved his worth. The extent of TK s input in signing players ,and which ones were his choices, none of us know. I am sure he has done a great job . Just think that Slavisa will have more power to his arguement particullarly during his contract negotiations than in previous years. Hopefully the club appreciates his knowledge of players and the game ,without giving him carte blanche to do whatever he likes. I think the club will get the balance right. Watching the Khans after the win at wembley showed their delight and satisfaction, which gives me a lot of hope that we will have good transfer window,without going too bananas and losing the great spirit of the squad which was there for all to see , and an integral reason we were able to succéed this year.
As the team went to collect the trophy, I am certain shahid said to Slav you are staying here, and Slav smiled.
No club will rely on the manager to find players - FFC has an extensive scouting system in place
The "boxes ticked"-system has provided us with a squad that managed promotion. But we had to rely on 6 loans to make it happen and will probably need 7-8 quality players to stay in the PL. If our transfer success rate doesn't improve radically that will probably mean signing 10-12 players! Which obviously won't happen. I must admit I'm a bit worried. Our transfers over the last 3 seasons have been inconsistent to say the least! We got a lot of quality players but we also got:
Pringle, Richards, Mattila, Stearman, Garbutt, Labyad, Josabed, Sigurdssson, Petsos, Cyriac, Cisse, Fonte, Mollo, Soares, Graham.
Some of the most expensive ones were the worst disappointments. As always. We seem incapable of $$$ signings.
Our squad looks ridiculously thin at the moment. No proper striker. No LB. A 178cm fullback at CB. No depth in ANY position except Kebano/Ayite and Button. Any injuries/suspensions and we are forced to use youngsters.
I know it's too soon to start worrying... but I do. Let's hope for some good news soon.
This may be underwhelming for some but what about signing Scott Carson from Derby?
I think he would only cost approx £2m or less (He was signed for £700k a few years ago) and at 32 he still has a good 2-3 years in him. Loads of Premiership experience and personally I think he's a very good goalkeeper with a lot of fight. Was very impressed by how solid he was and his decision making in the games against us in the playoffs.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/06/fulham-eyeing-bryan-offer/
Fulham eyeing Bryan offer
Fulham are keen on signing Bristol City defender Joe Bryan, according to a Daily Mirror report this afternoon.
In a story suggesting that another rumoured Fulham target, James Maddison, is wanted by the likes of Everton and Leicester City, the paper suggests that Slavisa Jokanovic is eager to bring the City left-back to Craven Cottage. Bristol City are braced for bids from Premier League suitors for their academy graduate, who made 41 first-team appearances last season, scoring three goals.
Bryan is entering the final year of his current Ashton Gate contract and Burnley have already made their interest in signing the 24 year-old, who can also operate as a wing-back or on the left of midfield, abundantly clear. Last season owner Steve Landsdown slapped a £10m price on the full-back and Bristol City would not have significantly lowered their valuation of a player who has been pivotal to the club's success under Lee Johnson. Bryan has made more than 200 league appearances for the Robins and scored in their famous League Cup win over Manchester United last term.
Fulham are known to be seeking reinforcements as they prepare for life in the Premier League, having won promotion by beating Aston Villa in the Wembley play-off final last month. It is thought that the Whites would be keen on another deal for Southampton's Matt Targett, but the Londoners have been linked with a number of other left backs including longstanding target Joe Bennett.
FC Porto are pressing hard to land Standard Liege star Edmilson Junior, who has also been linked with West Ham, Fulham and Wolves.
Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/06/10/portuguese-giants-push-hard-to-land-west-ham-fulham-and-wolves-linked-belgium-based-winger/378427/#ixzz5I1tZwH2D
Joe Bryan would be a decent replacement for Targett should Southampton decide not to sell.
Quote from: Holders on June 10, 2018, 12:11:19 PM
To me it's quite simple - use a 4-box system if you wish but stats and scouting are advisory inputs with SJ and finance the only elements having a veto.
That would certainly make the most sense. However, the Club does benefit from identifying potential signings either through scouting or statistics or both and I think it is what comes after when coaches discuss practical issues like a player being a good fit for the team/squad, being adaptable, being resourceful enough to play to the team style, and having the attitude essential to help the whole unit improve. Targett and Mitrovic are examples of the kind of personality/mentality required to hit the ground running.
Do you think we could have a separate thread for the discussion on the 2/4 box recruitment system as it's getting a bit boring! I'd just like to hear more about names being mentioned on The Transfer Thread.
1st signings of last summer
3rs July - Marcelo Djalo
7th July - Ibrahima Ciise
Quote from: MrFFC on June 11, 2018, 08:52:41 AM
1st signings of last summer
3rs July - Marcelo Djalo
7th July - Ibrahima Ciise
they turned out well, lets leave it until later, problem is now is hopefully the players we are looking at wanting to sign are going to be away at the world cup so hard to get medical's done etc
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: Arthur on June 10, 2018, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: HV71 on June 09, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
He isn't
Is Jokanovic not deciding whom he would like to bring into the Club? I ask because (i) it would surprise me if he were not; (ii) I don't know the answer.
While I can imagine that Jokanovic may not have the final say on how much we pay for a player or what salary we're prepared to offer, surely Khan Jnr has learnt enough from the Kline saga to realise that Slavisa knows best which players are most likely to complement our style of football.
We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.
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That's fine by me, with one proviso!
If the scouting & stats say yes and the finances are in place does the man who will be picking, training, coaching, motivating etc the team be able to say NO?
Can he say, I don't fancy him so lets find someone else?
At this level, you can have any recruitment system you like but for me if you trust your HC then he must have the final say if he has a good reason.
That's the bottom line for me
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Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: Arthur on June 10, 2018, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2018, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: HV71 on June 09, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %
He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )
IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!
He isn't
Is Jokanovic not deciding whom he would like to bring into the Club? I ask because (i) it would surprise me if he were not; (ii) I don't know the answer.
While I can imagine that Jokanovic may not have the final say on how much we pay for a player or what salary we're prepared to offer, surely Khan Jnr has learnt enough from the Kline saga to realise that Slavisa knows best which players are most likely to complement our style of football.
We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.
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That's fine by me, with one proviso!
If the scouting & stats say yes and the finances are in place does the man who will be picking, training, coaching, motivating etc the team be able to say NO?
Can he say, I don't fancy him so lets find someone else?
At this level, you can have any recruitment system you like but for me if you trust your HC then he must have the final say if he has a good reason.
That's the bottom line for me
for first team squad players yes, just as it works other way if the HC wants someone who fails one of the other three options then it's probe no. But there have been cases at bit he ends of the spectrum that have gone though.
Slav did not know Ayite for example and wasn't sure at all. And Johansen we didt have enough data but SJ wanted him.
Ruben Loftus cheek anyone?
Cardiff are signing Josh Murphy of Norwich for 11 million quid.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 11, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Cardiff are signing Josh Murphy of Norwich for 11 million quid.
Great player, I would have been very happy if we had gone In for him, that's a good signing for them.
Quote from: General on June 11, 2018, 11:04:38 AM
Ruben Loftus cheek anyone?
I still don't know what he actually does?
No tackles.
No closing down.
Poor passing.
No shooting.
We should pick him for England....
oh...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-huddersfield-ready-test-liverpools-12682584
Quote from: mkras99 on June 11, 2018, 02:56:00 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-huddersfield-ready-test-liverpools-12682584
Did well playing on the wing for Hull last year. Could be a decent option.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: General on June 11, 2018, 11:04:38 AM
Ruben Loftus cheek anyone?
I still don't know what he actually does?
No tackles.
No closing down.
Poor passing.
No shooting.
We should pick him for England....
oh...
I see Gera in him. Shadow a striker and help link up play.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: General on June 11, 2018, 11:04:38 AM
Ruben Loftus cheek anyone?
I still don't know what he actually does?
No tackles.
No closing down.
Poor passing.
No shooting.
We should pick him for England....
oh...
He's looked awesome for England in his special role of up field anchor man. Hodgson rates as the best player he has worked with. He can hold up the ball well and has good vision to distribute it wisely to others. Don't be fooled by flair play and certain role types people expect players to be.
Quote from: Riversider on June 11, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 11, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Cardiff are signing Josh Murphy of Norwich for 11 million quid.
Great player, I would have been very happy if we had gone In for him, that's a good signing for them.
I live in Norfolk and every Norwich fan I know has basically said they'd happily drive him to Cardiff to make sure he signs and they get that cash. They just don't rate him. Has 1 good game in 10, poor in possession and very little end product. Personally glad we've not gone for him!
Quote from: Statto on June 10, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 10, 2018, 01:37:54 PM
If our transfer success rate doesn't improve radically that will probably mean signing 10-12 players! Which obviously won't happen.
We've signed 10+ players in all the last few summer windows. Why would be less active now we've been promoted?
I see you point but with the exception of the 2016/17 season many of the most important signings have been loans. It will take a LOT of money to sign 10+ PL quality players when only two loans are permitted.
We still need to be within the limits of FFP. In the Championship we could spend more money than most but that's not the case anymore. Some of the rumours that are circulating would probably blow our entire budget on 3-4 players!!!
With the massive rebuild we're facing there's bound to be a period of trial and error. Ideally we should have most of our business done before the pre-season games. There's still plenty of time but this is perhaps my biggest concern, last minute signings and being unprepared for the start of the season.
But like I said before, I know it's far too soo to start worrying. And whatever happens I'll be 100% behind the team when the season starts! I probably just suffer from premature "start of season syndrome". It never happened THIS early before... :005:
Apparently Lazio are in for Grujic, with a quoted fee of £5million. Seeing as we have been linked I'm hoping we're bidding as well. I'd take their arm off at that price.
https://www.football-italia.net/122817/lazio-ask-liverpool-grujic (https://www.football-italia.net/122817/lazio-ask-liverpool-grujic)
Quote from: Statto on June 10, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 10, 2018, 01:37:54 PM
If our transfer success rate doesn't improve radically that will probably mean signing 10-12 players! Which obviously won't happen.
We've signed 10+ players in all the last few summer windows. Why would be less active now we've been promoted?
The Premiership status means that we must sign players of a higher quality, I doubt that we can afford quantity at the same time.
Getafe's winger Amath Ndiaye Diedhiou, 21, is now being linked with a £10m move to Fulham and Cardiff.
http://www.fichajes.net/noticias/jugador-getafe-tentado-inglaterra-20180612.html
New on Sky Fulham interested in signing Callum Chambers from Arsenal
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/709088/Chelsea-transfer-news-Lucas-Piazon-Tomas-Kalas-Fulham-sale/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Chelsea transfer news: Blues set to complete first summer business with £8m double deal
CHELSEA are set to complete their first transfer business of the summer with the double sale of two players to Fulham.
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Chelsea transfer news: Lucas Piazon and Tomas Kalas are heading to Fulham
Chelsea have been slow movers in the market so far with uncertainty over manager Antonio Conte's future causing a hold-up.
He's thought to be heading for the Stamford Bridge exit - but two players could beat him to it.
Starsport understands Lucas Piazon and Tomas Kalas are close to joining Premier League new boys Fulham in an £8m deal.
The pair both played on loan at Craven Cottage as Slavisa Jokanovic's side secured a return to the top flight via the Championship play-offs last term.
Piazon and Kalas also spent the previous 12 months on loan at Fulham and now look set to put pen to paper on permanent deals with Chelsea's west London rivals.
Defender Kalas has made two first-team appearances for the Blues but the majority of his time on the books has been spent out on loan.
He signed for Chelsea in 2010 but has since played for Sigma Olomouc, Vitesse Arnhem, Cologne and Middlesbrough on a temporary basis.
The 25-year-old is a full Czech Republic international.
Piazon has one Chelsea appearance to his name and like Kalas has been farmed out on loan all across Europe.
The 24-year-old Brazilian turned out for Malaga, Vitesse Arnhem, Frankfurt and Reading before heading to Fulham in 2016.
The Cottagers will learn their Premier League schedule on Thursday when the fixtures for next season are published at 9am.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/709088/Chelsea-transfer-news-Lucas-Piazon-Tomas-Kalas-Fulham-sale
Quote from: KJS on June 12, 2018, 12:23:31 PM
New on Sky Fulham interested in signing Callum Chambers from Arsenal
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have reignited their interest in Arsenal defender Calum Chambers, according to Sky sources.
The 23-year-old was one of their top targets last summer along with his then Gunners team-mate Lucas Perez, who returned to Deportivo La Coruna.
Chambers, who has three years remaining on his Arsenal contract after signing two-year extension last year, is high on their list again this summer as the Whites look to build a squad that can survive in the Premier League next season.
Arsenal are reshaping their own squad this summer under new manager Unai Emery and head of recruitment Sven Mislintat, and it remains to be seen whether Chambers is part of their plans.
Piazon and Kalas for £8M is about right and give us good squad players that know how we play and Slav knows them. They are not however starters, esp in the Premiership.
If we were to get Mitro and Targett or similar we will be in a good position to then push on with another 2 or 3 good first 11 signings. Central defender to play next to Ream being our major priority. I would be happy to Christie to be given a chance at right back, so a right sided striker would be next on most of our lists. Then upgrade where ever a good opportunity to sign players with a future. Maddison fits this model but I suspect would be just too expensive.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/12/report-newcastle-and-fulham-want-midfielder-roque-mesa/
Report: Newcastle and Fulham want midfielder Roque Mesa
Spanish outlet Sevilla ABC has claimed that Newcastle United and Fulham are both interested in signing Swansea City flop Roque Mesa, while La Liga side Sevilla are also keen.
The 29-year-old midfielder joined Swansea last summer from Las Palmas for a fee of £11million (The Sun) but was immediately loaned back to Spain with Sevilla after just 11 Premier League appearances.
It had been expected that Mesa would move to Sevilla permanently, following Swansea's relegation to the Premier League, but both Fulham and Newcastle are now considering moves.
Mesa's agent - the same as Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic - stated that the midfielder had received offers from both Spain and England: "Roque Mesa has received many proposals in recent weeks, from Spain and England."
The Toon are likely to be in the market for a central midfielder, with Mikel Merino reportedly interesting La Liga side Athletic Bilbao this summer. Jack Colback and Henri Saivet are also expected to leave Tyneside after loan spells.
Mesa has a contract at Swansea until the summer of 2021, but his future in Wales looks all but over. It remains to be seen how much interested parties will have to spend to land the former Levante youth player.
£8m for the two Chelsea players is a bargain but I don't think it's true
We're also in for Rodrigo Battaglia on a free transfer according to teamtalk.
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-liverpool-tottenham-everton-on-alert-as-six-sporting-lisbon-stars-demand-moves
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joe-bennetts-2m-release-clause-14769755
Joe Bennett's £2m release clause doesn't exist anymore and Cardiff City have no intention of selling him to Fulham
Players released from Fulham
The Club can confirm the following players, in addition to Ryan Fredericks who joined West Ham last week, leaving Fulham after the expiry of their contracts this summer are: George Williams, Michael Elstone, Joe Felix, Dan Martin, Julian Schwarzer, and Djed Spence.
Fredericks and Williams made First Team appearances for the Club - the former playing 114 times for the Whites during his three years at the Club, while Williams made 17 appearances for the First Team after graduating from the Academy.
We thank all our departing players for their efforts during their time at Fulham, and wish them every success in their careers.
Quote from: twang on June 12, 2018, 11:37:24 AM
Getafe's winger Amath Ndiaye Diedhiou, 21, is now being linked with a £10m move to Fulham and Cardiff.
http://www.fichajes.net/noticias/jugador-getafe-tentado-inglaterra-20180612.html
Wrote about Diedhiou in my transfer window preview a few weeks ago as a potential signing. Would be quality for us.
Hopefully we'll get some business done soon. I'm jealous of watch SSNs and seeing other clubs getting on with things
Some good Sporting Lisbon players are available for free after terminating their contracts following attacks from club fans at the training ground.
Carvalho
Patricio
Martins
Fernandes. Some of them are worth at least trying to offer a contract to
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 12, 2018, 01:19:30 PM
Piazon and Kalas for £8M is about right and give us good squad players that know how we play and Slav knows them. They are not however starters, esp in the Premiership.
If we were to get Mitro and Targett or similar we will be in a good position to then push on with another 2 or 3 good first 11 signings. Central defender to play next to Ream being our major priority. I would be happy to Christie to be given a chance at right back, so a right sided striker would be next on most of our lists. Then upgrade where ever a good opportunity to sign players with a future. Maddison fits this model but I suspect would be just too expensive.
+1
Can't disagree with any of that
George Williams has signed for Forest Green Rovers on a two year deal. Good luck to him.
Am I the only one excited about Sky reporting about us wanting Calum Chambers????
Quote from: AllyWhite on June 12, 2018, 05:47:25 PM
Am I the only one excited about Sky reporting about us wanting Calum Chambers????
I think he'd be a good signing, but I don't think it'll happen.
Quote from: AllyWhite on June 12, 2018, 05:47:25 PM
Am I the only one excited about Sky reporting about us wanting Calum Chambers????
I am excited also, but I tread with caution as it's only hearsay.
Shall we have a whip round to sign Mitro?
I can put in my life savings.. sell my furniture etc. All for a good cause.. dig deep everyone.
According to Talkadoodle radio Fulham could (love the could bit) move this week for Peterborough striker Jack Marriott who they had watched several times last season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:13:46 PM
According to Talkadoodle radio Fulham could (love the could bit) move this week for Peterborough striker Jack Marriott who they had watched several times last season.
Has Adrian Durham got inside info then?
Starting to get recycled rumours from this time last year:
Chambers
Marriot
Wilson
Quote from: KJS on June 12, 2018, 06:20:19 PM
Starting to get recycled rumours from this time last year:
Chambers
Marriot
Wilson
Yes,Talknonsense has a recording of them.
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
I'd like Chambers, Would be good signing.
Piazon and Kalas would be a snip at 8mill, Would be very happy with that.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
He's definitely quicker, perhaps stronger but with a better sense of timing/getting into the right place at the right time.
Technically probably not as good... who can forget Cauleys free-kick against Leyton Orient..? Tho our coaches could always work on that....
In terms of raw attributes I guess yes, but not by much.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
Put it this way would Cauley have got 27 goals in 44 appearances for Peterborough last season,I very much doubt it.
Fair enough comment but we don't know that for a fact do we?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 12, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
Put it this way would Cauley have got 27 goals in 44 appearances for Peterborough last season,I very much doubt it.
Cauley wouln't even have got 44 appearances
Quote from: Tabby on June 12, 2018, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on June 12, 2018, 05:47:25 PM
Am I the only one excited about Sky reporting about us wanting Calum Chambers????
I think he'd be a good signing, but I don't think it'll happen.
I expect he will still want to play for a Premier League side.
Oh I forgot, we are a Premier League side !!
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 12, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Quote from: CottagersOnTour on June 12, 2018, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
Put it this way would Cauley have got 27 goals in 44 appearances for Peterborough last season,I very much doubt it.
Cauley wouln't even have got 44 appearances
Sorry can't get carried away by someone scoring in League 1
Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
Quote from: KJS on June 12, 2018, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on June 12, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 12, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Quote from: CottagersOnTour on June 12, 2018, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
Put it this way would Cauley have got 27 goals in 44 appearances for Peterborough last season,I very much doubt it.
Cauley wouln't even have got 44 appearances
Sorry can't get carried away by someone scoring in League 1
Not even Jamie Vardy at Fleetwood Town.
Quote from: Hoppus on June 12, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
my feelings exactly, perhaps we've done it to see if west ham will make a bid as they seem to want all the players we are after.
Quote from: Nero on June 12, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 12, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
my feelings exactly, perhaps we've done it to see if west ham will make a bid as they seem to want all the players we are after.
Was one of Swanseas better players last season,11 goals. Why the dislike? Great dribbler and versatile so a good option to have on the bench. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing but certainly not a bad one.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 12, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 12, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 12, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
my feelings exactly, perhaps we've done it to see if west ham will make a bid as they seem to want all the players we are after.
Was one of Swanseas better players last season,11 goals. Why the dislike? Great dribbler and versatile so a good option to have on the bench. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing but certainly not a bad one.
Sounds like at £8m he fits the system.. Prem experience..
https://streamable.com/rg43i
Remember watching this earlier in this season in the cup against Wolves, Great goal
https://streamable.com/mguv
And another great finish here
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Quote from: @jolslover on June 12, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
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Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
my feelings exactly, perhaps we've done it to see if west ham will make a bid as they seem to want all the players we are after.
Was one of Swanseas better players last season,11 goals. Why the dislike? Great dribbler and versatile so a good option to have on the bench. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing but certainly not a bad one.
Sounds like at £8m he fits the system.. Prem experience..
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Can't get my head around the idea that Can't get my head around the idea that we could pay £8m for an experienced bench warmer. Surly the money would be better added to what we are prepared to pay for Mitrovic.
Ayew started almost every game last season. Not sure where you're getting bench warmer from.
Edit: Maybe you're thinking of André Ayew.
Quote from: filham on June 12, 2018, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 12, 2018, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 12, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 12, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 12, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
my feelings exactly, perhaps we've done it to see if west ham will make a bid as they seem to want all the players we are after.
Was one of Swanseas better players last season,11 goals. Why the dislike? Great dribbler and versatile so a good option to have on the bench. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing but certainly not a bad one.
Sounds like at £8m he fits the system.. Prem experience..
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Can't get my head around the idea that Can't get my head around the idea that we could pay £8m for an experienced bench warmer. Surly the money would be better added to what we are prepared to pay for Mitrovic.
£8m really isn't a lot of money in the current market though - I'm fairly sure the club will stump up for Mitro if they want to, bearing in mind the vast financial uplift for being in the prem you need to look at it from the aspects of what was a £2m benchwarmer in someone like Kebano will cost you 4/5x more and that's just Premier League economics. We need two proper strikers anyway seeing as AK looks like he could be better suited as a winger so getting a forward who plays in multiple positions isn't really that big of a deal at that price.
8 million for a Striker is absolutely nothing these days. Assombalonga who's never played in the Premier League went for double that last summer.
Would be worried if we went into the season with Ayew as our main striker, but I'd expect us to go all out for another one who'd cost 15+ whether that's Mitrovic, Rondon, Dembele.
Ayew
Chambers
Mitrovic
Kalas
Piazon
Targett
I wouldn't be too disappointed if this was our transfer window. Ideally I would love a couple of wildcards from the free agents list (Badelj and Rui Patricio in particular) but I think the above would be par.
Quote from: filham on June 12, 2018, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 12, 2018, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on June 12, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
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Quote from: Hoppus on June 12, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Please no:
Kaveh Solhekol on Twitter: 'Fulham in talks to sign Jordan Ayew from Swansea. We've been told they've made £8m bid'
my feelings exactly, perhaps we've done it to see if west ham will make a bid as they seem to want all the players we are after.
Was one of Swanseas better players last season,11 goals. Why the dislike? Great dribbler and versatile so a good option to have on the bench. Wouldn't be a brilliant signing but certainly not a bad one.
Sounds like at £8m he fits the system.. Prem experience..
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Can't get my head around the idea that Can't get my head around the idea that we could pay £8m for an experienced bench warmer. Surly the money would be better added to what we are prepared to pay for Mitrovic.
As others have said, £8m isn't that much. Strikers at the top level are very hard to come by. If Kalas is touted at £8m then why not a 26 y.o. Prem winger who fits our system and gives us depth? I think it's a sensible signing.
A Prem upgrade on Ayite/Kebano.
Not sure if it's been mentioned but Lucas Perez has also been linked.
Was on loan in Spain last season.
Few decent names being linked now.
COYW!
Quote from: OMalleyCat on June 12, 2018, 11:56:42 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned but Lucas Perez has also been linked.
Was on loan in Spain last season.
Few decent names being linked now.
COYW!
Yes, we need proper incoming quality and a fast start to avoid the bottom 3.
I remember when Aluko was signed and almost to man everyone was calling him a bench warmer.
I've said before the going rate for a big standard PL player is the 8m plus figure. As someone says below that's just PL economics.
I'm still expecting us to spend in the region of 50-60m and nit a lot more than that. Nowhere near the £90-100m Statto wants us to spend.
With the wage cap in place for our first year that's also a restriction of sorts, but I don't think we would bust that anyway.
http://www.legia.net/lekki/wiadomosci,73360-fulham_obserwuje_remyego.html
Supposedly after a centre back from Legia Warsaw
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 10:01:58 PM
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Quote from: sunburywhite on June 12, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 12, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Quite like that Marriott, penalty box poacher,think he would progress further with better service from our players.
He was on loan at Woking a few years back and was clearly far too good for the league even at such a young age.
A proper poacher with an eye for goal but surprisingly good strength for someone with such a slight build.
Ipswich really shouldn't have release him tbh; Luton picked up a bargain when he signed for them and he's been a key player for every team he's played in ever since.
Would certainly sign him as a backup for a reasonable fee.
Do you think he is any better than Cauley Woodrow??
Put it this way would Cauley have got 27 goals in 44 appearances for Peterborough last season,I very much doubt it.
Cauley wouln't even have got 44 appearances
Sorry can't get carried away by someone scoring in League 1
Not even Jamie Vardy at Fleetwood Town.
Could be another Charlie Austin!
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on June 13, 2018, 08:05:13 AM
http://www.legia.net/lekki/wiadomosci,73360-fulham_obserwuje_remyego.html
Supposedly after a centre back from Legia Warsaw
It is the same guy we were linked with last year. Think it is just rehashed rumors.
Quote from: Tabby on June 12, 2018, 11:01:54 PM
Ayew started almost every game last season. Not sure where you're getting bench warmer from.
Edit: Maybe you're thinking of André Ayew.
I'd take him at a heartbeat
Not looked at this thread for a week. So pleased as it still contains the same amount of brown stuff from the legion of bedroom journos. Will be back next week.
I don't get people not wanting ayew. Got 11 goals in 44 games last season and can play rw I'd be very happy with him.
Would also love Diop and chambers that we've been linked with but doubt either will come off. Both would be near £20m if the rumours are to be believed
Quote from: Statto on June 13, 2018, 07:59:09 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 06:40:12 AM
I'm still expecting us to spend in the region of 50-60m and nit a lot more than that. Nowhere near the £90-100m Statto wants us to spend.
The same as little 'ol Huddersfield then, who charge £100 for STs and got 37 points last season. How very "ambitious"
If you want to look at it like that then yes, but as you have pointed out thats how much all three promoted teams spent. If we spend more then great, but just my gut feel of where we might be.
Arsenal have just signed another cb, this time from Dortmund. This makes 2 cbs hey have signed so maybe there is legs in the chambers rumours
Jordan Ayew?!? Noooo...
Previous clubs:
Swansea
Aston Villa
Sochaux (on loan from Marseille)
All three teams got relegated during his stay... 1500.gif
Quote from: LondonCalling on June 13, 2018, 10:42:48 AM
Jordan Ayew?!? Noooo...
Previous clubs:
Swansea
Aston Villa
Sochaux (on loan from Marseille)
All three teams got relegated during his stay... 1500.gif
Previous clubs mean nothing in that sense. Look at felix 'never relegated' magath! We all know how that turned out. He's one player so can't be blamed for the teams being relegated. Many Swansea fans think he was brilliant for them last season and I think he could do a job for us on the rw
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 13, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: LondonCalling on June 13, 2018, 10:42:48 AM
Jordan Ayew?!? Noooo...
Previous clubs:
Swansea
Aston Villa
Sochaux (on loan from Marseille)
All three teams got relegated during his stay... 1500.gif
Previous clubs mean nothing in that sense. Look at felix 'never relegated' magath! We all know how that turned out. He's one player so can't be blamed for the teams being relegated. Many Swansea fans think he was brilliant for them last season and I think he could do a job for us on the rw
Just superstitious.. :022:
Crystal Palace in for Mitro....Talkadoodle.
Ayew bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
Shame, I quite like him..... ah well, no use him going on strike at the mo
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 13, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
Forest going for it signing Benfica midfielder for 13 million...
Nobody is going to be cheap in this crazy transfer world.
Wouldn't mind Ayew as long as we sign more of a target striker as well. Need someone who can hold the ball up the way Mitro did, even if it isn't Mitro.
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 13, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
only 22 players scored ten or more in the league. Its a small pool of players who get to double figures and of those 22 there are 15 of them who play for top six sides. I'd say 7-10 for a lower half team in PL and a player who moves around positions is not bad.
Edit... Of the 36 players who scored more than him, 22 are in top six sides. If I wasn't on my phone I'd list the others to see who we think we could get. I might do it later.
West Ham have allegedly bid somewhere between €15-20 million for Issa Diop. That price seems more manageable than the £26 million that were touted earlier.
West Ham have a history of making derisory bids that'll get knocked back in order to keep their fans happy though.
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 13, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
only 22 players scored ten or more in the league. Its a small pool of players who get to double figures and of those 22 there are 15 of them who play for top six sides. I'd say 7-10 for a lower half team in PL and a player who moves around positions is not bad.
Edit... Of the 36 players who scored more than him, 22 are in top six sides. If I wasn't on my phone I'd list the others to see who we think we could get. I might do it later.
I haven't said that it's a bad return. I said he's a decent player. But he's never been prolific, not even in France. So based on his history, 7 goals is what you can expect from Ayew when he has performed very well. In comparison he scored 3 goals last season in a total of 35 games (21 Championship and 14 Premier League matches). So to spend a pretty large amount of our budget on a player with a peak that modest wouldn't be good business IMHO.
Hmmm interesting debate,,,,,, I'd definitely try 9 mill
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 13, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
only 22 players scored ten or more in the league. Its a small pool of players who get to double figures and of those 22 there are 15 of them who play for top six sides. I'd say 7-10 for a lower half team in PL and a player who moves around positions is not bad.
Edit... Of the 36 players who scored more than him, 22 are in top six sides. If I wasn't on my phone I'd list the others to see who we think we could get. I might do it later.
Would be interesting.
I liked the "buy all the best players in the league" plan from Rigg a few years ago. The foundations of our team going up this year came from that transfer window.
Can we do something similar with lower half of Prem or are the costs just too high?
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 13, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
only 22 players scored ten or more in the league. Its a small pool of players who get to double figures and of those 22 there are 15 of them who play for top six sides. I'd say 7-10 for a lower half team in PL and a player who moves around positions is not bad.
Edit... Of the 36 players who scored more than him, 22 are in top six sides. If I wasn't on my phone I'd list the others to see who we think we could get. I might do it later.
I haven't said that it's a bad return. I said he's a decent player. But he's never been prolific, not even in France. So based on his history, 7 goals is what you can expect from Ayew when he has performed very well. In comparison he scored 3 goals last season in a total of 35 games (21 Championship and 14 Premier League matches). So to spend a pretty large amount of our budget on a player with a peak that modest wouldn't be good business IMHO.
I'm with you on all of that, but I'll revert to a line I'm repeating on here... For a bog standard PL player, it's 8-10m almost as a starting point. I'd say he's bang on the bog standard scale.
Quote from: Milo on June 13, 2018, 03:42:02 PM
Would be interesting.
I liked the "buy all the best players in the league" plan from Rigg a few years ago. The foundations of our team going up this year came from that transfer window.
Can we do something similar with lower half of Prem or are the costs just too high?
We are probably worse off financially than most of the lower half of the Prem, so I don't see how we'd manage it.
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 13, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
only 22 players scored ten or more in the league. Its a small pool of players who get to double figures and of those 22 there are 15 of them who play for top six sides. I'd say 7-10 for a lower half team in PL and a player who moves around positions is not bad.
Edit... Of the 36 players who scored more than him, 22 are in top six sides. If I wasn't on my phone I'd list the others to see who we think we could get. I might do it later.
I haven't said that it's a bad return. I said he's a decent player. But he's never been prolific, not even in France. So based on his history, 7 goals is what you can expect from Ayew when he has performed very well. In comparison he scored 3 goals last season in a total of 35 games (21 Championship and 14 Premier League matches). So to spend a pretty large amount of our budget on a player with a peak that modest wouldn't be good business IMHO.
I'm with you on all of that, but I'll revert to a line I'm repeating on here... For a bog standard PL player, it's 8-10m almost as a starting point. I'd say he's bang on the bog standard scale.
Indeed. And I guess my point is to either aim higher and pay more for someone better or to take a punt on someone with a bigger potential success for either the same money or even cheaper.
So the players who scored more than Ayew last season and not in the top 6...realistic targets any of them? A couple for sure may be possible.
Was 15 in the end so slightly miscounted before.
Vardy-20
Mahrez-12
Murray-12
Arnautovic-11
Milivojevic-10
Rooney-10
Wood-10
Barnes-9
Zaha-9
Chicharito-8
King-8
Niasse-8
Perez-8
Shaqiri-8
Wilson-8
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
puts a lot into perspective doesnt it for all those saying we should be aiming higher. i am in the camp of sign Ayew
West Ham have AGREED a deal for Diop, what was the quoted fee? ?15 mil. Worth a punt, especially if Callum Chambers is £22mil, whom I don't really rate
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
And it makes landing Mitrovic all that more important, even at the $25M range.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on June 13, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
And it makes landing Mitrovic all that more important, even at the $25M range.
realistically, i would say get them both
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
So the players who scored more than Ayew last season and not in the top 6...realistic targets any of them? A couple for sure may be possible.
Was 15 in the end so slightly miscounted before.
Vardy-20
Mahrez-12
Murray-12
Arnautovic-11
Milivojevic-10
Rooney-10
Wood-10
Barnes-9
Zaha-9
Chicharito-8
King-8
Niasse-8
Perez-8
Shaqiri-8
Wilson-8
Also worth pointing out that several players on that list, aside from being unaffordable, aren't even strikers so wouldn't even solve the striker issue. I think we need to look at it the same way we've done in the past two seasons and have a number of players who can get close to 10 this season. Look at how few goals our top scorer had when we finished sixth compared to the amount we scored as a team, and the same last season. If we keep a front three as we usually do, then as long as the three of them collectively chip in with goals and assists, we'll be okay. That's why I think Ayew isn't a bad shout in the first place, added to the fact that £8m his price is average (although I wouldn't pay £15m as Swansea seem to want and would gamble on a foreign import instead)
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 13, 2018, 04:12:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
So the players who scored more than Ayew last season and not in the top 6...realistic targets any of them? A couple for sure may be possible.
Was 15 in the end so slightly miscounted before.
Vardy-20
Mahrez-12
Murray-12
Arnautovic-11
Milivojevic-10
Rooney-10
Wood-10
Barnes-9
Zaha-9
Chicharito-8
King-8
Niasse-8
Perez-8
Shaqiri-8
Wilson-8
Also worth pointing out that several players on that list, aside from being unaffordable, aren't even strikers so wouldn't even solve the striker issue. I think we need to look at it the same way we've done in the past two seasons and have a number of players who can get close to 10 this season. Look at how few goals our top scorer had when we finished sixth compared to the amount we scored as a team, and the same last season. If we keep a front three as we usually do, then as long as the three of them collectively chip in with goals and assists, we'll be okay. That's why I think Ayew isn't a bad shout in the first place, added to the fact that £8m his price is average (although I wouldn't pay £15m as Swansea seem to want and would gamble on a foreign import instead)
Totally agree. And yes of course not all strikers but did it also to show how rare they are who get those goals.
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
puts a lot into perspective doesnt it for all those saying we should be aiming higher. i am in the camp of sign Ayew
Why does it put things into perspective? 'Aim higher' doesn't equal 'Sign someone who scored more goals in the same league'. There are better players and other leagues out there. Especially if we're talking about someone that's mainly going to play RW as Mitro surely must be everyone's preferred striker choice.
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 04:18:55 PM
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Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
puts a lot into perspective doesnt it for all those saying we should be aiming higher. i am in the camp of sign Ayew
Why does it put things into perspective? 'Aim higher' doesn't equal 'Sign someone who scored more goals in the same league'. There are better players and other leagues out there. Especially if we're talking about someone that's mainly going to play RW as Mitro surely must be everyone's preferred striker choice.
perspective of what a 11 goal premier league tested player will cost......
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 04:18:55 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:08:18 PM
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Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
puts a lot into perspective doesnt it for all those saying we should be aiming higher. i am in the camp of sign Ayew
Why does it put things into perspective? 'Aim higher' doesn't equal 'Sign someone who scored more goals in the same league'. There are better players and other leagues out there. Especially if we're talking about someone that's mainly going to play RW as Mitro surely must be everyone's preferred striker choice.
perspective of what a 11 goal premier league tested player will cost......
another way would be for someone else to look at the 15 players and come up with their last transfer fee to see how much they cost to deliver that.
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 04:18:55 PM
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Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 13, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
puts a lot into perspective doesnt it for all those saying we should be aiming higher. i am in the camp of sign Ayew
Why does it put things into perspective? 'Aim higher' doesn't equal 'Sign someone who scored more goals in the same league'. There are better players and other leagues out there. Especially if we're talking about someone that's mainly going to play RW as Mitro surely must be everyone's preferred striker choice.
perspective of what a 11 goal premier league tested player will cost......
another way would be for someone else to look at the 15 players and come up with their last transfer fee to see how much they cost to deliver that.
thats a good point but to be comparable you would need to look at the goals they scored in their first season as a premier league player. all of those players in that list other than Wood are seasoned players in the EPL and Wood, as mentioned, scored most of his in the Championship. im not being argumentative, although it probably comes across that way. its just i dont see Ayew at £8m as a bad bit of business especially when you consider that Mitrovic has 10 in 40 in the PL.
now dont all bite my head off. im not saying sign Ayew instead of Mitro, the exact opposite in fact but it really cant be seen as bad business to sign the earlier at those prices. this is solely about return on outlay
Quote from: twang on June 13, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
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Quote from: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Ayes bid turned down!!!
What do they want 10 million???? Is he worth it?
Nope, time to walk away.
£10m for a RW who scored 11 goals in the Prem is not bad business.
He played most games up front for Swansea and scored 7 in 36 Prem games. He's a decent player but for £10m+ we should be getting more than that.
only 22 players scored ten or more in the league. Its a small pool of players who get to double figures and of those 22 there are 15 of them who play for top six sides. I'd say 7-10 for a lower half team in PL and a player who moves around positions is not bad.
Edit... Of the 36 players who scored more than him, 22 are in top six sides. If I wasn't on my phone I'd list the others to see who we think we could get. I might do it later.
I haven't said that it's a bad return. I said he's a decent player. But he's never been prolific, not even in France. So based on his history, 7 goals is what you can expect from Ayew when he has performed very well. In comparison he scored 3 goals last season in a total of 35 games (21 Championship and 14 Premier League matches). So to spend a pretty large amount of our budget on a player with a peak that modest wouldn't be good business IMHO.
He scored 11 in all competitions last season and WASN'T their no.9 / target man for much of the season. He's an upgrade on Flloyd in a position we need him - I repeat, £10m isn't outlandish for someone with proven Prem ability these days (unfortunately). Not my no.1 target but if we got him for £10m I wouldn't be upset.
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Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I think one lesson from that is....forget the 20 goal a season man, can we get a 10-12 one.
that would leave;
Mahrez-12 £75m to man city
Murray-12 too old for our recruitment
Arnautovic-11 £50 to man utd
Milivojevic-10 No chance
Rooney-10 £350k a week
Wood-10 scored most of them in the championship didnt he?
all of a sudden, Ayew looks like a great option at £8m
I have to admit as I put this together i thought WTF, how hard is this going to be?
puts a lot into perspective doesnt it for all those saying we should be aiming higher. i am in the camp of sign Ayew
Why does it put things into perspective? 'Aim higher' doesn't equal 'Sign someone who scored more goals in the same league'. There are better players and other leagues out there. Especially if we're talking about someone that's mainly going to play RW as Mitro surely must be everyone's preferred striker choice.
perspective of what a 11 goal premier league tested player will cost......
another way would be for someone else to look at the 15 players and come up with their last transfer fee to see how much they cost to deliver that.
thats a good point but to be comparable you would need to look at the goals they scored in their first season as a premier league player. all of those players in that list other than Wood are seasoned players in the EPL and Wood, as mentioned, scored most of his in the Championship. im not being argumentative, although it probably comes across that way. its just i dont see Ayew at £8m as a bad bit of business especially when you consider that Mitrovic has 10 in 40 in the PL.
now dont all bite my head off. im not saying sign Ayew instead of Mitro, the exact opposite in fact but it really cant be seen as bad business to sign the earlier at those prices. this is solely about return on outlay
I don't see this as argumentative at all. I'm not against signing him or either for him. I don't see him as a main striker either.
Ayew alone isn't a particularly exciting prospect, and thus discussing his value doesn't make much sense,
But, considering him as part of a front 3 that consists of Sessegnon, Mitrovic and Ayew and all of a sudden, WOW !
Now his value looks entirely different.
Quote from: Riversider on June 13, 2018, 05:33:57 PM
Ayew alone isn't a particularly exciting prospect,and thus discussing his value doesn't make much sense,
But, considering him as part of a front 3 that consists of Sessegnon, Mitrovic and Ayew and all of a sudden, WOW !
Now his value looks entirely different.
Fair point.
It was goals per season logic that landed Villa with Ross McCormack. The best question is "Will they fit our style and plan?" Though in Villa's case the question might have been "What exactly is our style and plan?"
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 05:23:24 PM
I don't see this as argumentative at all. I'm not against signing him or either for him. I don't see him as a main striker either.
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+1 and to be clear, I do NOT want him as our no.9 / main goalscorer - absolutely hope we get Mitro for that. I'm saying as the right side of an attacking front 3 (as we play), for £10m that's not bad business these days.
In considering Ayew (as I understand ) for RW, I'm assuming that we have Mitro or equivalent in the middle so I say to myself "how does Ayew compare with Aluko (our last established RW) on goals per season and value?". Then he does seem a good prospect and the stats probably stand up.
In all of this counting of goas scored by particular players we should remember we paid a reported 8m for Fonte who then scored 3 Championship goals for us. What a risky business it is. Best to hold on to players who have proven their worth, we should be prepared to pay the earth for Mitrovic
I just want us to make a signing. Get Mitro done now.
Quote from: filham on June 13, 2018, 06:40:44 PM
In all of this counting of goas scored by particular players we should remember we paid a reported 8m for Fonte who then scored 3 Championship goals for us. What a risky business it is. Best to hold on to players who have proven their worth, we should be prepared to pay the earth for Mitrovic
how much max? How much is the earth? £40m?
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: filham on June 13, 2018, 06:40:44 PM
In all of this counting of goas scored by particular players we should remember we paid a reported 8m for Fonte who then scored 3 Championship goals for us. What a risky business it is. Best to hold on to players who have proven their worth, we should be prepared to pay the earth for Mitrovic
how much max? How much is the earth? £40m?
I was going to say exactly the same. As mentioned above, compared to aluko, seems a no brainer. That's not a dig at sone by the way either
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Quote from: Rambler on June 13, 2018, 04:08:40 PM
West Ham have AGREED a deal for Diop, what was the quoted fee? ?15 mil. Worth a punt, especially if Callum Chambers is £22mil, whom I don't really rate
They really do go after everyone we're linked with haha
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: filham on June 13, 2018, 06:40:44 PM
In all of this counting of goas scored by particular players we should remember we paid a reported 8m for Fonte who then scored 3 Championship goals for us. What a risky business it is. Best to hold on to players who have proven their worth, we should be prepared to pay the earth for Mitrovic
how much max? How much is the earth? £40m?
Considering how crazy the market has become in recent years and how pivotal Mitro was in our promotion run, and what a perfect fit for our style he is, I'd even pay 40m if Ashely puts that price tag on him. It's just my opinion and of course I understand that we could get more than just one player for that money. But what if these players turn out to be another Fonte or Mitroglou for us. Checking all boxes with scouts, good track record in another league, but then suddenly they turn out to be injury-prone, not fitting our style or not fitting the PL.
Mitrovic didn't fit the style of Rafa Benitez who likes to play quick attack with through passes. In theory, we could buy a higher profile striker than Mitrovic for less money if Newcastle indeed want 40m. But does this new 20m or 30m striker fit our style? We don't know.
I don't think Mitro will cost 40m. For this he would have to win World Cup topscorer, or Serbia make a semi-final run with Mitro standing out. Very unlikely. If he scores 2 or 3 good goals, 30m wouldn't surprise me. Anyway, he should be our top transfer priority!
Quote from: Madman Maddle on June 13, 2018, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: filham on June 13, 2018, 06:40:44 PM
In all of this counting of goas scored by particular players we should remember we paid a reported 8m for Fonte who then scored 3 Championship goals for us. What a risky business it is. Best to hold on to players who have proven their worth, we should be prepared to pay the earth for Mitrovic
how much max? How much is the earth? £40m?
Considering how crazy the market has become in recent years and how pivotal Mitro was in our promotion run, and what a perfect fit for our style he is, I'd even pay 40m if Ashely puts that price tag on him. It's just my opinion and of course I understand that we could get more than just one player for that money. But what if these players turn out to be another Fonte or Mitroglou for us. Checking all boxes with scouts, good track record in another league, but then suddenly they turn out to be injury-prone, not fitting our style or not fitting the PL.
Mitrovic didn't fit the style of Rafa Benitez who likes to play quick attack with through passes. In theory, we could buy a higher profile striker than Mitrovic for less money if Newcastle indeed want 40m. But does this new 20m or 30m striker fit our style? We don't know.
I don't think Mitro will cost 40m. For this he would have to win World Cup topscorer, or Serbia make a semi-final run with Mitro standing out. Very unlikely. If he scores 2 or 3 good goals, 30m wouldn't surprise me. Anyway, he should be our top transfer priority!
25m is the max I would pay for Mitrovic I think.
Quote from: charliejones141 on June 13, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
I just want us to make a signing. Get Mitro done now.
He won't want the distraction until after the WC is over for Serbia, i would think.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 13, 2018, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: Madman Maddle on June 13, 2018, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: filham on June 13, 2018, 06:40:44 PM
In all of this counting of goas scored by particular players we should remember we paid a reported 8m for Fonte who then scored 3 Championship goals for us. What a risky business it is. Best to hold on to players who have proven their worth, we should be prepared to pay the earth for Mitrovic
how much max? How much is the earth? £40m?
Considering how crazy the market has become in recent years and how pivotal Mitro was in our promotion run, and what a perfect fit for our style he is, I'd even pay 40m if Ashely puts that price tag on him. It's just my opinion and of course I understand that we could get more than just one player for that money. But what if these players turn out to be another Fonte or Mitroglou for us. Checking all boxes with scouts, good track record in another league, but then suddenly they turn out to be injury-prone, not fitting our style or not fitting the PL.
Mitrovic didn't fit the style of Rafa Benitez who likes to play quick attack with through passes. In theory, we could buy a higher profile striker than Mitrovic for less money if Newcastle indeed want 40m. But does this new 20m or 30m striker fit our style? We don't know.
I don't think Mitro will cost 40m. For this he would have to win World Cup topscorer, or Serbia make a semi-final run with Mitro standing out. Very unlikely. If he scores 2 or 3 good goals, 30m wouldn't surprise me. Anyway, he should be our top transfer priority!
25m is the max I would pay for Mitrovic I think.
This. Any more would be taking the proverbial.
It's Thursday 9 August & we don't have an alternative centre forward, how much do you want Mr Ashley and I'll sign the cheque 051
If these rumoured prices are correct, welcome back to the Premier Money League
Apart from a few most transfers do not start getting done until 1st July which is when contracts traditionally start / end plus most players / managers are away until then.
Mitrovic is an excellent fit, but the revelation is how a certain type of striker just works so well in our system. Others can do it and like Mitrovic, may well be playing in systems where they don't currently shine or even get a game.
I'll be happy if Mitrovic runs out for our first home game. If someone else doing a similar job is there instead of him, that's kind of fine too. Something about Mitrovic suggests to me that it wouldn't take much for his "I love Fulham" demeanour to mutate into "I'm doing Fulham a favour by being here". Jokanovic departing for instance.
If he doesn't join us, he's a Fulham favourite for life!
I actually think Jordan Ayew would be a good signing for Fulham. Would get a lot of service in this team has good pace & look how much Joka has improved Kamara over the season
Let Newcastle leave it to last minute all their bluff.He obviously doesn't want to be there.A deal will be done but at a sensible price.IMO no more than 20 million hopefully less.
Quote from: KJS on June 13, 2018, 08:32:54 PM
Apart from a few most transfers do not start getting done until 1st July which is when contracts traditionally start / end plus most players / managers are away until then.
The transfer window is open - opened earlier than usual this year and also ends early!
Once you get into the 20M+ category, you should be aiming for a player better than Mitro (his initial affinity for the club notwithstanding), imo
Fulham in talks with Bristol City for Joe Bryan as Matt Targett is wanted by Mark Hughes at Southampton,and want be coming back to the Cottage...Radio London Gossip.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 14, 2018, 05:58:07 AM
Fulham in talks with Bristol City for Joe Bryan as Matt Targett is wanted by Mark Hughes at Southampton,and want be coming back to the Cottage...Radio London Gossip.
Would be happy with Joe Bryan. He seems to be a younger and better version of Malone.
How long until we are linked with Diego Rolan again? 😂
Quote from: Tabby on June 14, 2018, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 14, 2018, 05:58:07 AM
Fulham in talks with Bristol City for Joe Bryan as Matt Targett is wanted by Mark Hughes at Southampton,and want be coming back to the Cottage...Radio London Gossip.
Would be happy with Joe Bryan. He seems to be a younger and better version of Malone.
I would have preferred Targett but it was clear from the start that Southampton would never let him go. Bryan is certainly one of the best left backs in the Championship. If we were facing another season down there he would have been an EXCELLENT signing but is he ready for the PL? In the 4-5 BC games I watched last season he had a tendendcy to lose his head and make nasty, late challenges when he got frustrated. Could be dangerous in the prem.
Still, we desperately need a LB and could do far worse.
Quote from: Carborundum on June 13, 2018, 09:13:43 PM
Mitrovic is an excellent fit, but the revelation is how a certain type of striker just works so well in our system. Others can do it and like Mitrovic, may well be playing in systems where they don't currently shine or even get a game.
I'll be happy if Mitrovic runs out for our first home game. If someone else doing a similar job is there instead of him, that's kind of fine too. Something about Mitrovic suggests to me that it wouldn't take much for his "I love Fulham" demeanour to mutate into "I'm doing Fulham a favour by being here". Jokanovic departing for instance.
If he doesn't join us, he's a Fulham favourite for life!
A quite brilliant and devastating summary of where we are and what makes football clubs tick. Fulham should sign you up as their strategist.
I see Celtic are touting Dembele out for £25 million. I am guessing we will be entitled to some of that cash if he sells?
Quote from: Jack Fulham on June 14, 2018, 12:57:46 PM
I see Celtic are touting Dembele out for £25 million. I am guessing we will be entitled to some of that cash if he sells?
Wouldn't have thought so.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 14, 2018, 09:05:20 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on June 13, 2018, 09:13:43 PM
Mitrovic is an excellent fit, but the revelation is how a certain type of striker just works so well in our system. Others can do it and like Mitrovic, may well be playing in systems where they don't currently shine or even get a game.
I'll be happy if Mitrovic runs out for our first home game. If someone else doing a similar job is there instead of him, that's kind of fine too. Something about Mitrovic suggests to me that it wouldn't take much for his "I love Fulham" demeanour to mutate into "I'm doing Fulham a favour by being here". Jokanovic departing for instance.
If he doesn't join us, he's a Fulham favourite for life!
A quite brilliant and devastating summary of where we are and what makes football clubs tick. Fulham should sign you up as their strategist.
Thank you for those kind words and career advice. As I sit in the park on my lunchbreak, reflecting on the dim view my current employers would take to soliciting alternative employment, I must resist the temptation to issue what in Silly Season, is commonly referred to as a "Come and get me plea". Which is a shame because it would be quite fun....right up to the point the FoF regulars started giving me pelters for anything and everything....about two days or so into the job.
Quote from: Carborundum on June 14, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 14, 2018, 09:05:20 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on June 13, 2018, 09:13:43 PM
Mitrovic is an excellent fit, but the revelation is how a certain type of striker just works so well in our system. Others can do it and like Mitrovic, may well be playing in systems where they don't currently shine or even get a game.
I'll be happy if Mitrovic runs out for our first home game. If someone else doing a similar job is there instead of him, that's kind of fine too. Something about Mitrovic suggests to me that it wouldn't take much for his "I love Fulham" demeanour to mutate into "I'm doing Fulham a favour by being here". Jokanovic departing for instance.
If he doesn't join us, he's a Fulham favourite for life!
A quite brilliant and devastating summary of where we are and what makes football clubs tick. Fulham should sign you up as their strategist.
Thank you for those kind words and career advice. As I sit in the park on my lunchbreak, reflecting on the dim view my current employers would take to soliciting alternative employment, I must resist the temptation to issue what in Silly Season, is commonly referred to as a "Come and get me plea". Which is a shame because it would be quite fun....right up to the point the FoF regulars started giving me pelters for anything and everything....about two days or so into the job.
I'm painting the C on my "Carborundum OUT!" banner as we speak.. :dft012:
NUFC want £20 million for Mitro. Let's get it done!
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'"There comes a time when you have to choose between turning the page and closing the book."' Wiltshire just posted this on his Insta. We were linked with him.....2+2=5 maybe.....
Quote from: Jack Fulham on June 14, 2018, 12:57:46 PM
I see Celtic are touting Dembele out for £25 million. I am guessing we will be entitled to some of that cash if he sells?
No, there may have been had he moved to an English club but he is at a Scottish club and they have a different federation.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 14, 2018, 01:42:09 PM
'"There comes a time when you have to choose between turning the page and closing the book."' Wiltshire just posted this on his Insta. We were linked with him.....2+2=5 maybe.....
Probably just bought the entire Trollope collection and is regretting his decision halfway through Dr Thorpe..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 14, 2018, 05:58:07 AM
Fulham in talks with Bristol City for Joe Bryan as Matt Targett is wanted by Mark Hughes at Southampton,and want be coming back to the Cottage...Radio London Gossip.
Who knows what Mr Arrogant is thinking??
He's apparently got bids for all three of his left backs
Bertram missed out on World Cup and may be looking for one last big deal, so he may decide between Targett or Sam McQueen. Might sell them all and get in a fresh face.
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: gerrys on June 14, 2018, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on June 14, 2018, 12:57:46 PM
I see Celtic are touting Dembele out for £25 million. I am guessing we will be entitled to some of that cash if he sells?
No, there may have been had he moved to an English club but he is at a Scottish club and they have a different federation.
They're still within the scope of the FIFA regime. We get something but it's very little. I have a feeling it's about 0.5% per year he was in our academy, so about 2% in total. So from a £25m fee we'd get £500k. Takes the pi$$ really
Isn't that the fee we got from Celtic in the first place? Doubles our money...
hoilett anyone as a squad player on a free? apparently rejecting contracts at Cardiff and due to leave at the end of the month
If we purchased Kalas/Piazon/Mitro/Ayew for 40m would people be happy? Personally, pending more business after, I would.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 14, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
If we purchased Kalas/Piazon/Mitro/Ayew for 40m would people be happy? Personally, pending more business after, I would.
$34MM yes (Mitro $18, Ayew $9, Kalas Piazon $7). I stated before that I think it will take $50MM net to replenish our squad very shrewdly (still believe a starting CM, CB and LB are necessary) , $75MM if we're not so worried about the money. In which case $40MM is fine.
Dembele frpm Celtic for 25m or Mitrovic for 20m?
Hmm let me think
Rodrigo Battaglia who we've been linked with (I think) has terminated his contract with Sporting.
How about Issa Diop who West Ham have bid for, if they have not already signed him.
Ken44
Dodged a bullet?
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11404556/jordan-ayew-bid-from-fulham-rejected-by-swansea
Quote from: AllyWhite on June 14, 2018, 07:27:18 PM
Dodged a bullet?
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11404556/jordan-ayew-bid-from-fulham-rejected-by-swansea
Why?
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How did they beat us to Diop when really we don't even know if Slav wanted him in the first place!?
Make sure you put your razor blades and belt out of reach whilst you are acting like a manic depressive! :doh:
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 09:09:09 PMIt's like a nightclub with 10 lads on the pull and only 5 nice looking girls. One of them has just gone home with another lad.
An extract from Ian Holloway's guide to the transfer window.
I love the way people say we missed out, big loss, we need to spend big, we will be relegated, write the cheque I'll sign it - etc etc etc!
Strewth
What happened to the enthusiasm, elation, support for all the club did and of course our great coach?
Forgotten already it would seem?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 14, 2018, 09:39:51 PM
I love the way people say we missed out, big loss, we need to spend big, we will be relegated, write the cheque I'll sign it - etc etc etc!
Strewth
What happened to the enthusiasm, elation, support for all the club did and of course our great coach?
Forgotten already it would seem?
Our coach can't get a squad performing without having a squad.
Wolves signed two
Cardiff signed two
Who made the decision not to do bugger all till this week?
Would we not have tried to sign Kalas and Piazon even if we stayed in the EFL??
Who knows what the plan is, who we may have already bid for etc?
E.g. Sky believe we bid 8 m for Ayew but it has been turned down and yet we are still interested - apparently?
It's all paper/Sky/internet rumour at the mo.
I just think the negativity is creeping in already!
we can't sign the billion pound cheques as we don't own the chequebook!
I just wish we were still looking forward to our great return to the big time that's all
Maybe we could leave the moaning till the last week of the window? I'm still buzzing from our promotion and amazing second half to the season. No one predicted we'd sign Mitro or Targett or that they'd be so effective, so let's just chill out and see what happens.
Of course we are all still thrilled, I'm only gradually dismounting from cloud nine. As I have stated elsewhere I am both excited and fearful.
The absolute last thing we require is to start badly and not catch up,,,,,,, given the tools Jokanovic will turn us into a well respected Prem team
We're interested in Maxime Le Marchand of Nice according to Twitter. Not a bad centre half and the fee is rumoured to be around €3m..
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 14, 2018, 08:53:05 PM
It's like a nightclub with 10 lads on the pull and only 5 nice looking girls. One of them has just gone home with another lad.
Sometimes there is no harm in going home with one of the ugly ones..... you never know what your going to get!
Just because we have not signed some massive billy big bollo%, who may well be only half decent anyway, lets see who we get and see how they turn out.
I for one will trust Joka to get the players he feels he needs.
I would have loved to have signed someone before the World Cup, but could you imagine if we had and they play an absolute stinker in Russia, this forum would be in meltdown saying why did we not wait until we had seen how his WC went!
Take a deep breath for a while!
COYW
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 14, 2018, 10:52:04 PM
We're interested in Maxime Le Marchand of Nice according to Twitter. Not a bad centre half and the fee is rumoured to be around €3m..
We need more bodies, so if we can get in one for cheap that'd be good. Seems to be a left sided defender, so he'd be competition for Ream most likely.
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 14, 2018, 10:52:04 PM
We're interested in Maxime Le Marchand of Nice according to Twitter. Not a bad centre half and the fee is rumoured to be around €3m..
Coming up with some terrace chants might be tough ..
Some people are born to moan. Shame they feel the need to impose it on the rest of us. Attention seeking perhaps
What about Divock Origi from Liverpool??
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 14, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
Maybe we could leave the moaning till the last week of the window? I'm still buzzing from our promotion and amazing second half to the season. No one predicted we'd sign Mitro or Targett or that they'd be so effective, so let's just chill out and see what happens.
I'm being hyperbolic and agree it's still early. However that fact is Now our loan players are gone, we have the weakest squad in the league. We need to sign about 12 players this summer, probably more than anyone, and preferably allowing most enough time for some pre-season with the team. IMO you can reaosnably say give it until the world cup group stage is over and pre-season starts, ie about 3 weeks from now, before moaning, bur we do need to have brought in a good 4-5 new faces by then.
I don't see how you can say we need more players than Cardiff. There are hardly any of their squad I would have in ours.
Don't forget or overlook the success of Burnley and Bournemouth - both basically kept the squad together and added bits of quality where they could.
And even if we find it hard to compete, we still have to manage the money carefully - we don't want another scenario where we go down and have to release most of the better players and replace them with lesser versions because of financial issues.
In Joka I trust. I have really enjoyed the football of the last couple of years, and remain positive about the way we will play next year.
Quote from: Whitesideup on June 15, 2018, 07:27:26 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 14, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
Maybe we could leave the moaning till the last week of the window? I'm still buzzing from our promotion and amazing second half to the season. No one predicted we'd sign Mitro or Targett or that they'd be so effective, so let's just chill out and see what happens.
I'm being hyperbolic and agree it's still early. However that fact is Now our loan players are gone, we have the weakest squad in the league. We need to sign about 12 players this summer, probably more than anyone, and preferably allowing most enough time for some pre-season with the team. IMO you can reaosnably say give it until the world cup group stage is over and pre-season starts, ie about 3 weeks from now, before moaning, bur we do need to have brought in a good 4-5 new faces by then.
I don't see how you can say we need more players than Cardiff. There are hardly any of their squad I would have in ours.
Don't forget or overlook the success of Burnley and Bournemouth - both basically kept the squad together and added bits of quality where they could.
And even if we find it hard to compete, we still have to manage the money carefully - we don't want another scenario where we go down and have to release most of the better players and replace them with lesser versions because of financial issues.
In Joka I trust. I have really enjoyed the football of the last couple of years, and remain positive about the way we will play next year.
+1
Bristol City waiting for Fulham's bid for Joe Bryan.
Quote from: Whitesideup on June 15, 2018, 07:27:26 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 14, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
Maybe we could leave the moaning till the last week of the window? I'm still buzzing from our promotion and amazing second half to the season. No one predicted we'd sign Mitro or Targett or that they'd be so effective, so let's just chill out and see what happens.
I'm being hyperbolic and agree it's still early. However that fact is Now our loan players are gone, we have the weakest squad in the league. We need to sign about 12 players this summer, probably more than anyone, and preferably allowing most enough time for some pre-season with the team. IMO you can reaosnably say give it until the world cup group stage is over and pre-season starts, ie about 3 weeks from now, before moaning, bur we do need to have brought in a good 4-5 new faces by then.
I don't see how you can say we need more players than Cardiff. There are hardly any of their squad I would have in ours.
Don't forget or overlook the success of Burnley and Bournemouth - both basically kept the squad together and added bits of quality where they could.
And even if we find it hard to compete, we still have to manage the money carefully - we don't want another scenario where we go down and have to release most of the better players and replace them with lesser versions because of financial issues.
In Joka I trust. I have really enjoyed the football of the last couple of years, and remain positive about the way we will play next year.
Hear hear.
Fulham homecoming for Mousa Dembele would suit both parties this summer
This week, Sky Italy, as reported by Sky Sports, have suggested that Napoli, Juventus, and Inter Milan were all exploring signing Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Mousa Dembele.
Although interest from some of Serie A's biggest clubs will undoubtedly tempt the Belgian, Dembele should instead choose to remain in the Premier League and sign for his former club Fulham.
Unfortunately for Tottenham supporters, it appears as if Mauricio Pochettino is willing to listen to offers for the 30-year-old central midfielder, even following one of the Belgian's brightest seasons to date.
But if Dembele is to leave north London, he should stay in the capital and maintain his status in the world's best domestic league, where he can be the star of the show at Craven Cottage.
The Belgian's first foray into English football came at Fulham, when the southwest London club signed Dembele from AZ Alkmaar back in 2010.
Manager Mark Hughes initially utilised him as a striker, but Dembele truly found success when played in a defensive midfield role under Martin Jole in the 2011/12 season.
His remarkable performances that season caught the eye of Tottenham, who bought Dembele along with fellow Fulham player Clint Dempsey on the summer transfer deadline day in 2012.
Dembele has a proud history at Craven Cottage where he is still a firm fan favourite, and a move back to his former stomping ground would suit both parties.
Newly-promoted Fulham are eager to make a splash in their first season in the top-flight since 2013/14, and are searching for a world-class acquisition in the centre of midfield.
Dembele also seems to be on the way out at White Hart Lane, as recent reports on Wednesday from French outlets France Football and RMC even linked the Belgian with a big-money move to a Chinese club.
If he returned to Fulham, the experienced midfielder would be guaranteed first-team football week-in, week-out by the banks of the Thames – a prospect that would be hard to come by at the Italian giants.
Slavisa Jokanovic's team is known for its attacking, possession-based style, but also requires a steely presence in midfield to complement more forward-thinking players.
Dembele offers the perfect mix of defensive resoluteness as well as driving, attacking runs, a combination that would be welcomed by Fulham.
Mousa Dembele would do well to stay in the Premier League and return to Fulham, boosting the Cottagers' ambitions while becoming the main talent at the top-flight club.
https://tbrfootball.com/mousa-dembele-fulham-homecoming/
Quote from: Whitesideup on June 15, 2018, 07:27:26 AM
In Joka I trust. I have really enjoyed the football of the last couple of years, and remain positive about the way we will play next year.
Here, here. All I want to see is ambition and the essential recruits identified by the coaching team as the absolute barest minimum for keeping the Fulham Project alive, healthy and well going into a PL season. Anything less would be criminal. A little leeway on the barest minimum would be welcome too, provided it is appropriate.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 15, 2018, 08:02:23 AM
Bristol City waiting for Fulham's bid for Joe Bryan.
Are you positioned in your favourite Bush at MP yet ?
I've got £56.23 here if that helps to bringing Dembele home.
I'd love it if we signed him again!
Cairney and Dembele in the same team would be terrifying.
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 14, 2018, 08:53:05 PM
How did they beat us to Diop when really we don't even know if Slav wanted him in the first place!?
Make sure you put your razor blades and belt out of reach whilst you are acting like a manic depressive! :doh:
Pretty irrelevant really. There are only ever a handful of decent players at the right level (too good for championship clubs but not good enough for top 10 premiership clubs) available in each position each year. All our peer clubs are using the same scouting and statistical analysis techniques applied to a player/stats database we all share. It's like a nightclub with 10 lads on the pull and only 5 nice looking girls. One of them has just gone home with another lad.
This is a very good point and something I've been worrying about for a while. With every mid/lower level PL club having the (more or less) identical stats based approach they will all go for the same players. We can't compete financially with most of those clubs. At least not now when we have to sign three times as many players as them just to stay up. We really need to find the hidden gems. Except there aren't any, unless we disregard the stats completely and take risks based on good old fashioned scouting. Find the players that have been underachieving for whatever reason, like playing out of position or in the wrong system. Mitro is an excellent example. And he was just a last minute stroke of luck through Joka's whatsapp when Mitros original deal fell through, not something that was planned ahead by the stats team.
I'm really worried that we may end up with the leftovers, last minute panic signings.
Quote from: WhiteJC on June 15, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
Fulham homecoming for Mousa Dembele would suit both parties this summer
This week, Sky Italy, as reported by Sky Sports, have suggested that Napoli, Juventus, and Inter Milan were all exploring signing Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Mousa Dembele.
Although interest from some of Serie A's biggest clubs will undoubtedly tempt the Belgian, Dembele should instead choose to remain in the Premier League and sign for his former club Fulham.
Unfortunately for Tottenham supporters, it appears as if Mauricio Pochettino is willing to listen to offers for the 30-year-old central midfielder, even following one of the Belgian's brightest seasons to date.
But if Dembele is to leave north London, he should stay in the capital and maintain his status in the world's best domestic league, where he can be the star of the show at Craven Cottage.
The Belgian's first foray into English football came at Fulham, when the southwest London club signed Dembele from AZ Alkmaar back in 2010.
Manager Mark Hughes initially utilised him as a striker, but Dembele truly found success when played in a defensive midfield role under Martin Jole in the 2011/12 season.
His remarkable performances that season caught the eye of Tottenham, who bought Dembele along with fellow Fulham player Clint Dempsey on the summer transfer deadline day in 2012.
Dembele has a proud history at Craven Cottage where he is still a firm fan favourite, and a move back to his former stomping ground would suit both parties.
Newly-promoted Fulham are eager to make a splash in their first season in the top-flight since 2013/14, and are searching for a world-class acquisition in the centre of midfield.
Dembele also seems to be on the way out at White Hart Lane, as recent reports on Wednesday from French outlets France Football and RMC even linked the Belgian with a big-money move to a Chinese club.
If he returned to Fulham, the experienced midfielder would be guaranteed first-team football week-in, week-out by the banks of the Thames – a prospect that would be hard to come by at the Italian giants.
Slavisa Jokanovic's team is known for its attacking, possession-based style, but also requires a steely presence in midfield to complement more forward-thinking players.
Dembele offers the perfect mix of defensive resoluteness as well as driving, attacking runs, a combination that would be welcomed by Fulham.
Mousa Dembele would do well to stay in the Premier League and return to Fulham, boosting the Cottagers' ambitions while becoming the main talent at the top-flight club.
https://tbrfootball.com/mousa-dembele-fulham-homecoming/
Dembele would be incredible.
We are currently considering buying John Swift for £12 million according to The Reading Chronicle.
http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/readingfc/16290995.Reading_FC_transfer_latest__Royals_eye_Stephen_Ireland_and_Tommy_Elphick_deals_but_look_to_have_missed_out_on_Marcus_Maddison/ (http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/readingfc/16290995.Reading_FC_transfer_latest__Royals_eye_Stephen_Ireland_and_Tommy_Elphick_deals_but_look_to_have_missed_out_on_Marcus_Maddison/)
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Quote from: KJS on June 14, 2018, 08:53:05 PM
How did they beat us to Diop when really we don't even know if Slav wanted him in the first place!?
Make sure you put your razor blades and belt out of reach whilst you are acting like a manic depressive! :doh:
Pretty irrelevant really. There are only ever a handful of decent players at the right level (too good for championship clubs but not good enough for top 10 premiership clubs) available in each position each year. All our peer clubs are using the same scouting and statistical analysis techniques applied to a player/stats database we all share. It's like a nightclub with 10 lads on the pull and only 5 nice looking girls. One of them has just gone home with another lad.
This is a very good point and something I've been worrying about for a while. With every mid/lower level PL club having the (more or less) identical stats based approach they will all go for the same players. We can't compete financially with most of those clubs. At least not now when we have to sign three times as many players as them just to stay up. We really need to find the hidden gems. Except there aren't any, unless we disregard the stats completely and take risks based on good old fashioned scouting. Find the players that have been underachieving for whatever reason, like playing out of position or in the wrong system. Mitro is an excellent example. And he was just a last minute stroke of luck through Joka's whatsapp when Mitros original deal fell through, not something that was planned ahead by the stats team.
I'm really worried that we may end up with the leftovers, last minute panic signings.
same stats in to a system but many ways to have it tell you what you want.
Style wise, how they fit with other players, do they do better in one position compared to another. If your Cardiff your not always going to look for the same strengths we look for.
Interpretation of stats and combination of them is where the stats guys in all the different clubs earn their money.
Any news from Farnborough Airport lol?
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 15, 2018, 10:26:12 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on June 15, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
Fulham homecoming for Mousa Dembele would suit both parties this summer
This week, Sky Italy, as reported by Sky Sports, have suggested that Napoli, Juventus, and Inter Milan were all exploring signing Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Mousa Dembele.
Although interest from some of Serie A's biggest clubs will undoubtedly tempt the Belgian, Dembele should instead choose to remain in the Premier League and sign for his former club Fulham.
Unfortunately for Tottenham supporters, it appears as if Mauricio Pochettino is willing to listen to offers for the 30-year-old central midfielder, even following one of the Belgian's brightest seasons to date.
But if Dembele is to leave north London, he should stay in the capital and maintain his status in the world's best domestic league, where he can be the star of the show at Craven Cottage.
The Belgian's first foray into English football came at Fulham, when the southwest London club signed Dembele from AZ Alkmaar back in 2010.
Manager Mark Hughes initially utilised him as a striker, but Dembele truly found success when played in a defensive midfield role under Martin Jole in the 2011/12 season.
His remarkable performances that season caught the eye of Tottenham, who bought Dembele along with fellow Fulham player Clint Dempsey on the summer transfer deadline day in 2012.
Dembele has a proud history at Craven Cottage where he is still a firm fan favourite, and a move back to his former stomping ground would suit both parties.
Newly-promoted Fulham are eager to make a splash in their first season in the top-flight since 2013/14, and are searching for a world-class acquisition in the centre of midfield.
Dembele also seems to be on the way out at White Hart Lane, as recent reports on Wednesday from French outlets France Football and RMC even linked the Belgian with a big-money move to a Chinese club.
If he returned to Fulham, the experienced midfielder would be guaranteed first-team football week-in, week-out by the banks of the Thames – a prospect that would be hard to come by at the Italian giants.
Slavisa Jokanovic's team is known for its attacking, possession-based style, but also requires a steely presence in midfield to complement more forward-thinking players.
Dembele offers the perfect mix of defensive resoluteness as well as driving, attacking runs, a combination that would be welcomed by Fulham.
Mousa Dembele would do well to stay in the Premier League and return to Fulham, boosting the Cottagers' ambitions while becoming the main talent at the top-flight club.
https://tbrfootball.com/mousa-dembele-fulham-homecoming/
Dembele would be incredible.
I would love it. Is there something in this story?
oleeeeee olee olee olee Mouuuuuuuuuusaaaaa Dembélé !!!!!
Quote from: Hoppus on June 15, 2018, 11:46:20 AM
I would love it. Is there something in this story?
It is just someone speculating.
No chance of Dembele but him and Mitro in the same team and we would be top 8 in my opinion!
Dembele making the return trip to the Cottage would be great. Reminds me of the going and coming back of Mullery that was a great success.
Quote from: Statto on June 14, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
And this is not a big club - they will struggle to get in the top half. Just shows what we're up against and how poor we will be in this league we don't put our hands very deep into our pockets soon.
Yes there's lots of time left in this window but we need to sign lots of players. At the moment you have to say, the likelihood is we will be relegated.
This is our senior squad 3 weeks from the start of pre season training, so to say we need arguably 10 new signings with premiership quality just to kick off the season isn't far off the mark:
bettinelli
christie
sessegnon r
ream
Odoi
johansen
Macdonald
cairney
ayite
kebano
kamara
button
djalo
fonte
cisse
woodrow
This seems to be an old story (1st June), but i don't remember it on this thread. There's also a fresh article appeared today. links for both below.
15/6/18 http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-make-offer-fulham-qpr-target-player-make-decision/
According to claim in the Dutch media, Malatyaspor have made an offer to sign PEC Zwolle attacker Youness Mokhtar.
The player will become a free agent at the end of this month and he's also been linked with Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Voetbal International report Malatysport are interested in signing Mokhtar this summer and now the forward is thinking over the offer from the Turkish club.
The 26 year old's agent Cankut Ercan has been quizzed about Malatyaspor's interest and said: "The style and profile of Youness is good for clubs in Turkey. He is open to this league, just like the Italian. It is important that he can continue to grow."
Earlier this month we covered comments made by Ercan, who stated Fulham are interested in Mokhtar. Fulham will be looking to bolster their squad in this transfer window and the forward was presented as an option for the club.
Fulham's West London rivals QPR have also been linked with Mokhtar, with claims in the Netherlands they were monitoring the situation.
It's now a case of clubs making offers to the player and him choosing which suits best.
1/6/18 http://sportwitness.co.uk/agent-confirms-fulhams-interest-client-qpr-also-linked/
Trabzon based newspaper Taka report Trabzonspor are still showing an interest in PEC Zwolle attacker Youness Mokhtar, but now face competition from Fulham.
The player will become a free agent at the end of the month and has also been linked with Fulham's West London rivals Queens Park Rangers.
Taka have spoken to Mokhtar's agent Sezer Ozkan and he's confirmed Fulham's interest in the QPR linked forward: "Trabzonspor are looking for cheaper players, we know that. Youness' contract expires so he's free to join the club. Premier League side Fulham are also interested in him.
"I gave him a lot of information about Trabzonspor. He's keen on the move. He's likely to require less than €1m per season from the club, so it's a very good price."
With Fulham's promotion to the Premier League last week they will be looking to bolster their squad this summer, but they'll need to move quickly due to the strong interest from the Turkish club, and also QPR.
Last month we covered reports from the Dutch media that QPR are monitoring the situation with Mokhtar and could move in on the Utrecht born player.
The 26 year old scored 10 goals for PEC Zwolle last season.
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-youngster-could-make-mls-move
Fulham youngster could make MLS move
Portland Timbers are among several Major League Soccer clubs interested in signing Fulham youngster Tayo Edun on loan.
The 20-year-old midfielder, who has played for England at Under-17, Under-18, Under-19 and Under-20 levels, recently trained with Timbers and could be set for a move to the United States.
The Whites, owned by American tycoon Shahid Khan, are keen for their young players to move on loan to the MLS – and New England Revolution are keen on Luca De La Torre.
MLS clubs have also shown some interest in striker Cauley Woodrow, whose first-team prospects at Fulham continue to look slim.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/15/do-report-fulham-lining-up-12m-bid-for-reading-midfielder-john-s/
Quote from: deano_632 on June 15, 2018, 12:24:28 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/15/do-report-fulham-lining-up-12m-bid-for-reading-midfielder-john-s/
Could be a smart signing, albeit not sure he's PL quality yet. Looks a similar player to Johansen, box to box from what I'd seen.
Give the club a chance most players are still on holiday!! Another 7-10 days you will see more movement from every team
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-youngster-could-make-mls-move
Fulham youngster could make MLS move
Portland Timbers are among several Major League Soccer clubs interested in signing Fulham youngster Tayo Edun on loan.
The 20-year-old midfielder, who has played for England at Under-17, Under-18, Under-19 and Under-20 levels, recently trained with Timbers and could be set for a move to the United States.
The Whites, owned by American tycoon Shahid Khan, are keen for their young players to move on loan to the MLS – and New England Revolution are keen on Luca De La Torre.
MLS clubs have also shown some interest in striker Cauley Woodrow, whose first-team prospects at Fulham continue to look slim.
These potential MLS loans are interesting. I wonder how much is truth versus paper talk.
They are basically half season loans, so the youngsters would be back in the winter window. The facilities would be good. No language barrier. Less unpredictability to coaching situations compared to the Championship without relegation and all the pressure that comes with that.
Not sure if they are good or bad ideas, but seem to be a relatively unexplored avenue for the development of young English players at this point.
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Quote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-youngster-could-make-mls-move
Fulham youngster could make MLS move
Portland Timbers are among several Major League Soccer clubs interested in signing Fulham youngster Tayo Edun on loan.
The 20-year-old midfielder, who has played for England at Under-17, Under-18, Under-19 and Under-20 levels, recently trained with Timbers and could be set for a move to the United States.
The Whites, owned by American tycoon Shahid Khan, are keen for their young players to move on loan to the MLS – and New England Revolution are keen on Luca De La Torre.
MLS clubs have also shown some interest in striker Cauley Woodrow, whose first-team prospects at Fulham continue to look slim.
These potential MLS loans are interesting. I wonder how much is truth versus paper talk.
They are basically half season loans, so the youngsters would be back in the winter window. The facilities would be good. No language barrier. Less unpredictability to coaching situations compared to the Championship without relegation and all the pressure that comes with that.
Not sure if they are good or bad ideas, but seem to be a relatively unexplored avenue for the development of young English players at this point.
Call it a reverse Landon Donovan pond hop.
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on June 15, 2018, 02:50:52 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on June 15, 2018, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 15, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-youngster-could-make-mls-move
Fulham youngster could make MLS move
Portland Timbers are among several Major League Soccer clubs interested in signing Fulham youngster Tayo Edun on loan.
The 20-year-old midfielder, who has played for England at Under-17, Under-18, Under-19 and Under-20 levels, recently trained with Timbers and could be set for a move to the United States.
The Whites, owned by American tycoon Shahid Khan, are keen for their young players to move on loan to the MLS – and New England Revolution are keen on Luca De La Torre.
MLS clubs have also shown some interest in striker Cauley Woodrow, whose first-team prospects at Fulham continue to look slim.
These potential MLS loans are interesting. I wonder how much is truth versus paper talk.
They are basically half season loans, so the youngsters would be back in the winter window. The facilities would be good. No language barrier. Less unpredictability to coaching situations compared to the Championship without relegation and all the pressure that comes with that.
Not sure if they are good or bad ideas, but seem to be a relatively unexplored avenue for the development of young English players at this point.
Call it a reverse Landon Donovan pond hop.
He was out there a few weeks ago for a trial and said himself that the move could happen
Krychowiak from PSG anyone? Got loaned to WBA last season and he's a quality defensive midfielder who would fit in our system very well who I don't think has a future at PSG
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 15, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
Krychowiak from PSG anyone? Got loaned to WBA last season and he's a quality defensive midfielder who would fit in our system very well who I don't think has a future at PSG
Excellent in that DMF position and good with set pieces.
This is the pre silly season thread.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on June 15, 2018, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 15, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
Krychowiak from PSG anyone? Got loaned to WBA last season and he's a quality defensive midfielder who would fit in our system very well who I don't think has a future at PSG
Excellent in that DMF position and good with set pieces.
+1 would be excellent
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Be curious to know what Reading fans think of Swift. Checked their forum and they dismissed the rumour out of hand, bandied the word tinpot around a bit as per, but wonder what they think of him as a player and whether he's worth the £12m that's being bandied around
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Quote from: Jims Dentist on June 15, 2018, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 15, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
Krychowiak from PSG anyone? Got loaned to WBA last season and he's a quality defensive midfielder who would fit in our system very well who I don't think has a future at PSG
Excellent in that DMF position and good with set pieces.
+1 would be excellent
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as in to replace Mcdonald or a bench boy?
Jokanovic said we were after Thomas Delaney last summer and this summer before he went to Dortmund in his Daily Mail article, which to me would suggest we're looking for a Johansen replacement.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5848915/Slavisa-Jokanovic-Five-players-impact-Russia-World-Cup.html
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 15, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
Jokanovic said we were after Thomas Delaney last summer and this summer before he went to Dortmund in his Daily Mail article, which to me would suggest we're looking for a Johansen replacement.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5848915/Slavisa-Jokanovic-Five-players-impact-Russia-World-Cup.html
We had three senior CM's in the team going into the season. Norwood wasn't a replacement for anyone.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 15, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
Jokanovic said we were after Thomas Delaney last summer and this summer before he went to Dortmund in his Daily Mail article, which to me would suggest we're looking for a Johansen replacement.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5848915/Slavisa-Jokanovic-Five-players-impact-Russia-World-Cup.html
I don't think we were looking to replace Stef last season. He got 13 goals and I believe about 10 assists.
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 15, 2018, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 15, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
Jokanovic said we were after Thomas Delaney last summer and this summer before he went to Dortmund in his Daily Mail article, which to me would suggest we're looking for a Johansen replacement.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5848915/Slavisa-Jokanovic-Five-players-impact-Russia-World-Cup.html
I don't think we were looking to replace Stef last season. He got 13 goals and I believe about 10 assists.
I mean this summer if that wasn't clear. Left-Footed, Box-to-Box Centre-Mid who can score a goal. Scandinavian as well.
Doubt he will be looking to replace Johansen he is a quality player he will just want competition for places now we are in the Premier League
According to this Fulham are interested in Peter Žulj, 25, central midfielder from Sturm Graz. Scored 10 goals and made 19 assists this season.
https://www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/news/englische-klubs-an-sturm-stars-interessiert/
Quote from: twang on June 16, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
According to this Fulham are interested in Peter Žulj, 25, central midfielder from Sturm Graz. Scored 10 goals and made 19 assists this season.
https://www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/news/englische-klubs-an-sturm-stars-interessiert/
That is a lot for a defensive midfielder. Seems interesting.
Quote from: twang on June 16, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
According to this Fulham are interested in Peter Žulj, 25, central midfielder from Sturm Graz. Scored 10 goals and made 19 assists this season.
https://www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/news/englische-klubs-an-sturm-stars-interessiert/
I see we're quoted as having an interest alongside QPR & Sheffield Wed. This makes me think that he was on our 'B' list of players - the one we would have been working from had we not gained promotion.
Quote from: Arthur on June 16, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
Quote from: twang on June 16, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
According to this Fulham are interested in Peter Žulj, 25, central midfielder from Sturm Graz. Scored 10 goals and made 19 assists this season.
https://www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/news/englische-klubs-an-sturm-stars-interessiert/
I see we're quoted as having an interest alongside QPR & Sheffield Wed. This makes me think that he was on our 'B' list of players - the one we would have been working from had we not gained promotion.
We were interested in thomas delaney (according to slavisa), who is a Denmark international and joining borussia dortmund and have gone for Diego rolan before..
Something tells me we don't necessarily go for bad players regardless of division.
I know rolan failed to live up to expectations but whilst in championship we did manage to sign good players for the league.
So after wishing we could sign Krychowiak, it seems that we are indeed interested in him:
https://mobile.twitter.com/parisunited6/status/1007927766073921536
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 16, 2018, 11:49:10 AM
So after wishing we could sign Krychowiak, it seems that we are indeed interested in him:
https://mobile.twitter.com/parisunited6/status/1007927766073921536
I love Krychowiak, Didn't do brilliantly at West Brom but think that was more to do with the players around him being poor. Very good footballer. At Sevilla he was one of the top DMs in Europe.
"Nothing to be decided till after the WC".
Quote from: Holders on June 16, 2018, 11:53:46 AM
"Nothing to be decided till after the WC".
About what?
Over the last 3 seasons how many players did we actually sign who the media had made a big thing about us chasing?
Working backwards, in the last window there was no obvious interst in Mitro, Targett and Christie until it was almost concluded, right?
https://fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/fulham-linked-to-versatile-french-defender/
Strengthening the squad for the forthcoming Premier League season remains a prime objective for Fulham Football Club.
Today we're able to bring you a piece of speculation relating to the possibility of Fulham adding a centre-back to their ranks.
Our source, Sport Witness, is reporting that the French media, courtesy of two media sources, L'Equipe and Nice-Matin, that the Nice centre-back, Maxime Le Marchand, could be heading to Craven Cottage.
Le Marchand, 28-years-of-age, made 41 appearances for Nice last season and showed his versatility by playing as a left-back as well as a centre-back.
With one-year left on his current deal, Le Marchand has indicated he'd like to move abroad.
However, Fulham are not the only club linked with his acquisition with the Serie A side, Fiorentina, also linked with the player.
Here at Vital Fulham, it's hard for us to make a judgement call on the player as we know nothing at all about him, however, we can but trust in Slavisa Jokanovic's judgement, if the gaffer believes he can do a job for us then that's good enough for us.
COYW's
Tony martial on loan be great signing
Quote from: Twig on June 16, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holders on June 16, 2018, 11:53:46 AM
"Nothing to be decided till after the WC".
About what?
Think he's referring to the Krychowiak thing, but to be fair he is currently at the WC with Poland so doing a deal wouldn't be easy until he's home anyway.
Quote from: Twig on June 16, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Holders on June 16, 2018, 11:53:46 AM
"Nothing to be decided till after the WC".
About what?
That's what the Krychoviak quote says.
I think that applies to Mitro too, not least because he's got other things on his mind and the Serbian manager won't want players hassled while they're supposed to be concentrating on the job in hand.
How about Bas Dost from Sporting, a bit older, but a big player and an eye for the goals (61 in 61 for Sporting.)
He wants to cancel his contract after being attacked by fans - the Club wants to sell him - cheeky £10m bit and everyone is happy! No?
Quote from: Jeroen on June 16, 2018, 02:39:06 PM
How about Bas Dost from Sporting, a bit older, but a big player and an eye for the goals (61 in 61 for Sporting.)
He wants to cancel his contract after being attacked by fans - the Club wants to sell him - cheeky £10m bit and everyone is happy! No?
No need to bid to Sporting, he'll get his contract cancelled. The problem is that Dost have many other clubs tailing him.
I'm not sure if he would come here, but if we make a cheecky offer we might outfox all the other clubs that are waiting for him to cancel his contract
You'd need to have the player agree to come as well. If he is looking to cancel his contract I doubt he'd be happy to hand Sporting money for a transfer.
Would love us to go for Brentford centre half,
Chris Mepham, had a great season for them and has now broken through to the Wales side,
Local lad as well and a good age.
Quote from: Riversider on June 16, 2018, 03:09:43 PM
Would love us to go for Brentford centre half,
Chris Mepham, had a great season for them and has now broken through to the Wales side,
Local lad as well and a good age.
They just rejected a £10m bid from Bournemouth, say it's well below their valuation of him
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Stoke 10 mill bid for Dwight Gayle.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-targeting-sweden-left-back-12723898
Fulham are targeting combative Sweden ace Ludwig Augustinsson.
The left-back, 24, is on World Cup duty and faces a decision upon his return to current club Werder Bremen.
The Cottagers had wanted Matt Targett, who finished last season on loan with them.
But his parent club, Southampton, are now looking to keep him and allow another left-back, Sam McQueen, to leave.
Augustinsson was on Liverpool's radar before Andy Robertson joined.
He played 29 times in the Bundesliga last season, making four further appearances in the DFB Pokal, scoring one goal.
Augustinsson won successive Danish Superliga titles during his time with Copenhagen, as well as three Danish Cups.
He was part of Sweden's victorious Under-21 Euros side in 2015 and has since gone on to make 14 appearances for the senior side.
Augustinsson would be a solid player to sign, he has been looking good in Bundesliga since signing. Also pushed Martin Olsson of Swansea out of the Swedish starting lineup.
Quote from: Tabby on June 16, 2018, 08:01:30 PM
Augustinsson would be a solid player to sign, he has been looking good in Bundesliga since signing. Also pushed Martin Olsson of Swansea out of the Swedish starting lineup.
It will never happen, his name is too long, and the club haven't got a shirt big enough for 12 letters.
http://www.goal.com/en-gh/news/ayews-spokesperson-denies-celtic-interest-tight-lipped-on/10tqi7c0xurq1avpu2qmli1gw
Key quotes
"On Fulham, according to Sky Sports, they've made an £8 million offer to Swansea City but I haven't been told of any rejection. I heard about their offer in the news and read it also on social media but I can't confirm or deny [that Jordan is aware of the impending deal].
"If you were Jordan, between Premier League and Championship, which one would you choose?" he quizzed.
Goal understands that Fulham will submit an improved offer next week to Swansea and the deal could be concluded before the World Cup ends.
https://soccersouls.com/2018/06/17/why-southampton-over-fulham-could-be-the-ideal-destination-for-this-4m-scotland-international/
Why Southampton over Fulham could be the ideal destination for this £4m Scotland international
Stuart Armstrong enjoyed another decent season with Celtic as he helped the Bhoys to another domestic treble. The central midfielder also featured heavily for the Scottish giants in their Champions League campaign last term.
He scored three goals and set up four more in 24 Scottish Premiership appearances, while in total he turned out 41 times for Celtic last season, netting 5 times and providing 6 assists.
Several Premier League clubs, including Fulham and Southampton, have been linked with making a move for Armstrong, who has just a year left on his present contract with Celtic.
But between the Cottagers and the Saints, which team should the £4m Scotland international pick. Or should he just accept the 5-year contract which Celtic have reportedly offered him and remain at Parkhead?
Southampton had a very tricky season in the Premier League last term as they avoided relegation to the Championship by the skin of their teeth.
They struggled for goals throughout the 2017/18 campaign, but the Saints also lacked creativity in the midfield area. And Armstrong would slot into the Southampton seamlessly very and strengthen their midfield.
He would not only bring flair and assists to St Mary's Stadium but he also possesses a winning mentality after spending so long at Celtic. Armstrong would benefit Southampton massively as they also looked devoid of leaders last season.
Fulham, on the other hand, scored the second most goals in the Championship last season, aided by their trio of midfielders – Stefan Johansen, Tom Cairney and Kevin McDonald. It would be a shock if the Cottagers don't stick with the trio in the Premier League next season. Therefore, it feels like it would be harder for Armstrong to make an impact at Craven Cottage.
The third option for Armstrong is to remain at Celtic. There are reports that he has been offered a lucrative new 5-year deal by the Scottish champions.
The option looks incredibly tempting as it would guarantee him playing for a club, who understands him. He would also receive the opportunity to win more trophies after helping Celtic to two successive domestic treble triumphs.
The choice lies with Armstrong but if he does decide to move to the Premier League then Southampton seems like a better option.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6551404/fulham-want-to-sign-brighton-goalkeeper-tim-krul-on-a-free-transfer/
Were in for Forestieri of Weds apparently.
So are Stoke and Norwich,not good enough for Premier imo.
Quote from: Tabby on June 16, 2018, 08:01:30 PM
Augustinsson would be a solid player to sign, he has been looking good in Bundesliga since signing. Also pushed Martin Olsson of Swansea out of the Swedish starting lineup.
Would be a top signing for us! Have a very good left foot and a solid record in recent years. The style of play reminds a bit like Leighton Baines I would say. I do not think he will leave Werder Bremen for less than 10 million. If we sign Augustinsson we would have a really good left backs comming years. GET IN!
The Sunday Fulham Stuff thread has us linked with nine players (and these don't include Mitrovic). Surely a couple of these will come to fruition. PSG's Polish defensive midfielder and Bremen's Swedish left-back may have names that are a nightmare to spell, but both sound as if they could be good acquisitions. Nor would I be averse to us signing Forestieri. His technique is good enough to fit into our style of play and he seems capable of scoring goals from unlikely situations. He's also the hardest-working forward I saw in our time in the Championship and no fairy either.
These threads are good fun,but I read through them,but with Fulham like the last window when the 3 lads came in ,no one Heard about them in any threads.gossip or anything.
According to reports in England, Tim Krul is close to agreeing a deal with Premier League new boys Fulham.
By Michael Bell
Follow Michael on Twitter
The 30-year-old's short-term deal with Brighton & Hove Albion ended at the end of the season, and although they want Krul to stay, an agreement is not likely.
Krul failed to make a single Premier League appearance with Brighton and wants to find a club where he will be first choice. According to the Sun, Fulham are set to offer Krul a two-year deal.
Krul started his career in the ADO Den Haag academy but was picked up by Newcastle United, where he spent ten years. After unsuccessful loan periods with Ajax and AZ, Krul joined Brighton last season.
http://www.football-oranje.com/krul-set-to-sign-for-fulham/
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 17, 2018, 10:54:55 AM
According to reports in England, Tim Krul is close to agreeing a deal with Premier League new boys Fulham.
By Michael Bell
Follow Michael on Twitter
The 30-year-old's short-term deal with Brighton & Hove Albion ended at the end of the season, and although they want Krul to stay, an agreement is not likely.
Krul failed to make a single Premier League appearance with Brighton and wants to find a club where he will be first choice. According to the Sun, Fulham are set to offer Krul a two-year deal.
Krul started his career in the ADO Den Haag academy but was picked up by Newcastle United, where he spent ten years. After unsuccessful loan periods with Ajax and AZ, Krul joined Brighton last season.
http://www.football-oranje.com/krul-set-to-sign-for-fulham/
From the rumors it seems we're making a swap between Krul and Button and getting £4 million for it. I'd be okay with that.
Quote from: Tabby on June 17, 2018, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 17, 2018, 10:54:55 AM
According to reports in England, Tim Krul is close to agreeing a deal with Premier League new boys Fulham.
By Michael Bell
Follow Michael on Twitter
The 30-year-old's short-term deal with Brighton & Hove Albion ended at the end of the season, and although they want Krul to stay, an agreement is not likely.
Krul failed to make a single Premier League appearance with Brighton and wants to find a club where he will be first choice. According to the Sun, Fulham are set to offer Krul a two-year deal.
Krul started his career in the ADO Den Haag academy but was picked up by Newcastle United, where he spent ten years. After unsuccessful loan periods with Ajax and AZ, Krul joined Brighton last season.
http://www.football-oranje.com/krul-set-to-sign-for-fulham/
From the rumors it seems we're making a swap between Krul and Button and getting £4 million for it. I'd be okay with that.
that would be a great move.
With the world cup on,can see a good few deals in general happening when it's over
I am probably wrong, but I believe Krul is a free agent as he only signed until the end of the season.
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"Nothing to be decided till after the WC".
About what?
That's what the Krychoviak quote says.
I think that applies to Mitro too, not least because he's got other things on his mind and the Serbian manager won't want players hassled while they're supposed to be concentrating on the job in hand.
That's what I would expect, makes sense for both the player and his current club.
Maybe I am right he is listed on Brighton site as season only, and not on Newcastle site as out on loan.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/11407972/southampton-and-leicester-agree-james-maddison-fee-with-norwich
Southampton and Leicester have both agreed a fee with Norwich to sign James Maddison, according to Sky sources.
The two Premier League clubs have had proposals in the region of £22m plus add-ons accepted by the Canaries.
One source has told Sky Sports News that Maddison prefers Southampton but he is still to decide which club he will join.
Sky Sports News reported earlier this month that Everton and Fulham have also been keen on the midfielder.
He has also been scouted by top-four clubs Tottenham, Liverpool and Manchester City.
The 21-year-old scored 15 goals last season and, with their parachute payments due to end this year, Norwich have been willing to cash in on their most valuable player.
The Norfolk club have been seeking between £20m and £25m for Maddison, who has represented England at U21 level.
£22M plus add-ons for Maddison. A benchmark for transfers involving clubs outside the 'big six'?
He's a player I would have liked us to sign. Young and talented. Leicester and Southampton, however, are perhaps not needing to sign as many players as us, and can thus afford to spend more on those that they do want.
Plus both have money to burn after Van Dijk going to Liverpool and Mahrez on the verge of joining City.
Fulham want Oğuzhan Özyakup (Besiktas). (source Twitter).
Quote from: bobby01 on June 17, 2018, 11:51:00 AM
Maybe I am right he is listed on Brighton site as season only, and not on Newcastle site as out on loan.
He initially joined on loan in the last year of his contract in August. But the deal was made permanent and effectively Brighton took over his contract and its now expiring
Quote from: Hoppus on June 17, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
Fulham want Oğuzhan Özyakup (Besiktas). (source Twitter).
Hah! No chance. a top 6 team for sure.
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Quote from: Hoppus on June 17, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
Fulham want Oğuzhan Özyakup (Besiktas). (source Twitter).
Hah! No chance. a top 6 team for sure.
He's just signed a contract extension so probably not going to happen.
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Fulham want Oğuzhan Özyakup (Besiktas). (source Twitter).
Hah! No chance. a top 6 team for sure.
He's just signed a contract extension so probably not going to happen.
While I'm not saying it's likely we sign him, they let his contract expire and then gave him a new one to avoid a 30% sell on clause that Arsenal had on him. Supposedly with an 8.75m release clause as well, so they're pretty much resigned to selling him.
Maddison probably going to Leicester for £24 mil has set a bench mark of what we will have to spend on recruiting decent players. £10 mil is not going to get you anyone top drawer.
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Quote from: Hoppus on June 17, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
Fulham want Oğuzhan Özyakup (Besiktas). (source Twitter).
Hah! No chance. a top 6 team for sure.
He's just signed a contract extension so probably not going to happen.
While I'm not saying it's likely we sign him, they let his contract expire and then gave him a new one to avoid a 30% sell on clause that Arsenal had on him. Supposedly with an 8.75m release clause as well, so they're pretty much resigned to selling him.
Allegedly their president is okay with selling him to us for €15m according to the same source.
Wolves have signed the sporting Lisbon keeper Rui something on a 4 yr deal
Quote from: ollienixs on June 18, 2018, 05:10:30 PM
Wolves have signed the sporting Lisbon keeper Rui something on a 4 yr deal
Ruddy want be too happy.😂
Newcastle in for Jordan Ayew.
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Quote from: ollienixs on June 18, 2018, 05:10:30 PM
Wolves have signed the sporting Lisbon keeper Rui something on a 4 yr deal
Ruddy want be too happy.😂
I imagine john with ruddy unhappy
I don't know if anyone else watched Belgium-Panama, but i really liked that Panama right-back Michael Murillo. I've just looked him up and he is only 22 years old. Maybe he would be a good signing and if things don't work out we have Christie, so I think he is worth a shot.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6561381/fulham-consider-7m-swoop-sturm-graz-star-peter-zulj/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Sprnklr+SUN+Organic&UTMX=Editorial%253ATheSunFootball%253ATw+Image+and+link%253AStatement%253ASport
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/18/report-fulham-prepare-10-million-bid-for-getafe-winger-amath-ndi/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday
Quote from: mkras99 on June 18, 2018, 06:33:12 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/18/report-fulham-prepare-10-million-bid-for-getafe-winger-amath-ndi/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday
3 goals 3 assists in 37 games.
Not that great stats imo.
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http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/18/report-fulham-prepare-10-million-bid-for-getafe-winger-amath-ndi/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday
3 goals 3 assists in 37 games.
Not that great stats imo.
You have to keep in mind that he was playing in a very "negative" Getafe side. Saw him live when Getafe played Barcelona in February and he was brilliant. Very direct, and constantly caused Sergi Roberto problems. Got some pedigree as well because he was an Atletico youth player. For 10 mill he'd be worth taking the chance on.
Whoever comes in players wise I hope they are slavs wishes.
no harm but what are we at sniffing around players like Krul when direct rivals are going and signing Euro 2016 winners like Rui Patricio ?
He literally played in a match on Friday and he signs on Monday, why do people assume we can and should only do business after the tournament? It's not panic stations but surely there's decent deals to be done
Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 18, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
it feels wrong the way wolves do transfers and I wonder how much if any there coach has because if results don't come ,coaches get sacked and don't think that's right.
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 18, 2018, 08:48:11 PM
no harm but what are we at sniffing around players like Krul when direct rivals are going and signing Euro 2016 winners like Rui Patricio ?
He literally played in a match on Friday and he signs on Monday, why do people assume we can and should only do business after the tournament? It's not panic stations but surely there's decent deals to be done
Helps when Wolves have Jorge Mendes who's got all the half decent Portugese players on speed dial and links to their ownership. The sooner people accept that Wolves will end up with good players purely due to their ownership and links to a super agent, the better.
VILLA CHASE BURN
Aston Villa are chasing Wigan Athletic defender Dan Burn as a replacement for John Terry, according to the Reading Post.
Chris Samba has also left Aston Villa, with Steve Bruce needing defensive reinforcements.
Huh, hope Dan does well, but it seems like an odd signing.
Quote from: Tabby on June 18, 2018, 11:06:52 PM
Huh, hope Dan does well, but it seems like an odd signing.
Agreed
Seems strange, however Dan obviously had a good season for Wigan.
Perhaps they're looking for a right back?
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 18, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
No movement in the transfer department as the club haven't tied Slav down to a new contract....
It's simply a slow part of the transfer window. Think there's been roughly 20 signings across the whole Premier League, and one of them was Wolves signing Afobe who they then sold and another was Huddersfield signing a sub Keeper. Just the nature of a World Cup year (and the fact we're still in June and most players who aren't at the World Cup will be on a beach somewhere). Would expect things to kick up a gear once the Group Stages are over and half the teams are out.
It's not ideal for us obviously, but it's where we are.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 19, 2018, 01:35:46 AM
It's simply a slow part of the transfer window. Think there's been roughly 20 signings across the whole Premier League, and one of them was Wolves signing Afobe who they then sold and another was Huddersfield signing a sub Keeper. Just the nature of a World Cup year (and the fact we're still in June and most players who aren't at the World Cup will be on a beach somewhere). Would expect things to kick up a gear once the Group Stages are over and half the teams are out.
It's not ideal for us obviously, but it's where we are.
Agreed, nothing will happen until after the Cup.
Going through the BBC Website there's been a total of 21 signings so far in the Premier League (it's possible I missed one or two);
Stephan Lichtsteiner (Arsenal)
Florin Andone (Brighton), Leon Balogun (Brighton)
Greg Cunningham (Cardiff), Josh Murphy (Cardiff)
Vicente Guaita (Palace)
Ramadan Sobhi (Huddersfield), Terence Kongolo (Huddersfield), Ben Hamer (Huddersfield)
Jonny Evans (Leicester), Ricardo Pereira (Leicester)
Fabinho (Liverpool)
Diogo Dalot (Man Utd)
Marc Navarro (Watford), Gerard Deulofeu (Watford), Ben Wilmot (Watford)
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham)
Rui Patricio (Wolves), Raul Jimenez (Wolves), Benik Afobe (Wolves), Willy Boly (Wolves)
So to put things into perspective for the people panicking, a total of 21 signings have been made in the Premier League so far. One has already left in Afobe, 4 were already deals prior to the window opening/loans being made permanent in place in Afobe, Guaita, Boly and Kongolo. Ben Hamer will be lucky to get a minute in the Prem for Huddersfield.
Along with us Bournemouth, Burnley, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Newcastle, Southampton and Spurs all haven't made signings yet- and apart from Chelsea, Everton, City and Spurs we'll be competing with all of them to stay up.
We've started later than everyone by going up in the Play-Offs, again, to put things into perspective Huddersfield only started to role the signings in at the start of July last season- and that was without 700 odd players being very hard to sign for a minimum of two weeks.
Sarri set to become Chelski boss with Zola as his No 2.
Barnsley and Burton after Cauley Woodrow.
Quote from: Statto on June 19, 2018, 12:24:13 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 18, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
can't agree with us getting in bed with one agent like wolves did. We sort of went down that road under Jol and not the way to do things in my book.
Fabian Haider @ Twitter:
"Austrian media confirming that #Fulham are apparently willing to offer 8M for attacking midflielder Peter Zulj from @SKSturm . Player of the season in the Austrian Bundesliga last season! #coyw #ffc".
https://twitter.com/DeanJonesBR/status/1008979680463122432?s=19
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Quote from: Statto on June 19, 2018, 08:14:54 AM
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
All sensible points, IMO. The key to effective negotiations is to always get all the people involved onside, and read between the lines when conversations take place.
Dean Jones from Bleacher Report on Twitter: Fulham are pursuing their interest in Jack Grealish.
Definitely not panicking but making a comparison between most squads in the EPL and how much they've spent/signed seems a little silly to me considering we currently have one of the lightest and poor squads. We're the ones in desperate need to sign players really so i'd expect a few shortly, even if its retaining many of the loan players on permanent deals. Losing Mitro/Piazon/Kalas/Ojo/Nor wood/Targett to our squad is a huge hole to fill. As I said, not panicking but we do need to do some business before our pre season prep becomes wasted on players who will likely not play or drop into reserves.
So Man City did a tweet about something or other and one reply was this
(https://image.ibb.co/n6bqpd/man_city.png)
everyone needs to calm down ;-)
I am sure and hope the club knows the task in front of them, and maybe, just maybe, seeds have been sown and negotiations are in the pending tray.
Like London Buses complete one signing and a profusion of signings shall follow.
Basically it has to happen, because at the moment we are the newest club in the Premier League with the smallest squad.
Time is ticking, naturally a little frustration is building.
They must know their targets by now. So I can imagine it's all going on behind the scenes as the recruiting department beavers away burning the midnight oil. The Entry Door has been oiled and revarnished, and all the dust, cobwebs and tumbleweed have vanished, we are under starters orders for the Recruitment Drive, the next 6 weeks are pivotal.
Fulham FC will recruit the necessary players, they have got us this far have they not, have some faith and a little patience.
I'd just of at least expected some of the loan players to have signed by now. The world cup is a major spanner in the works though even for players who aren't there as agents etc will all be there so that needs to be taken in consideration i suppose.
Quote from: Tabby on June 18, 2018, 11:06:52 PM
Huh, hope Dan does well, but it seems like an odd signing.
Dan was always very good in the air, it is possible he has developed well since he left us. I always liked him and would not be surprised that in a good team he looks Premiership quality.
More fuel to to the Swedish LB rumour, however the bit about Sess is Hogwash
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-man-utd-tottenham-given-sessegnon-lift-as-fulham-close-in-on-new-left-back
Fulham are targeting Swedish international Ludwig Augustinsson and have already contacted his club Werder Bremen, we can exclusively reveal.
The Cottagers want to bring in a left-back and they had been chasing Southampton's Matt Targett, who finished last season on-loan at Craven Cottage and performed brilliantly for the west London side.
However, the Saints hierarchy are now of the mind to keep Targett and allow another left-back Sam McQueen to leave.
But the mere fact that Slavisa Jokanovic's men are after a new left-sided defender is sure to ramp up the speculation that Ryan Sessegnon could be on the move again.
Both Manchester United and Tottenham have been strongly linked with a move for the 18-year-old, who had been tipped by some outsiders to gatecrash England's World Cup squad.
The England Under-21 star, who can left left-back or left wing, is rated at £50million and has also been previously linked with Liverpool.
As for Fulham's search for a new full-back, they are still in contact with Southampton over Targett – but they also have other irons in the fire and their top target is Augustinsson.
The highly-rated 24-year-old, who has previously been on Liverpool's radar, joined Werder 18 months ago and has impressed in the Bundesliga, but now Fulham are ready to bring him to the Premier League.
Rodrigo Battaglia just terminated his contract with Sporting so that could be a good signing. Better than Kmac and a good holding midfielder to sign on a free.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 19, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
More fuel to to the Swedish LB rumour, however the bit about Sess is Hogwash
They're not wrong that it will ramp up speculation. Someone sneezing at Motspur Park would accomplish that, much less a signing that plays as LB and LW.
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 18, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 19, 2018, 01:23:55 PM
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
Experience isn't everything though.... Betts is less prone to errors than Hart imo and i've never particularly rated Forster.
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 19, 2018, 10:50:28 AM
Rodrigo Battaglia just terminated his contract with Sporting so that could be a good signing. Better than Kmac and a good holding midfielder to sign on a free.
We might have a chance there. Not a Mendes pawn and not high profile enough that there'll be loads richer clubs looking into him.
I've actually seen us linked to Forster already....I think he'd be dreadful/unsuited to us. Watched him a few times at Saints before he lost his place and his main downfall is his footwork and distribution. nearly always favours lumping it long even when he has time and options in front of him. Great shot stopper and would do better at a club like Cardiff in my opinion.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 19, 2018, 10:01:25 AM
Definitely not panicking but making a comparison between most squads in the EPL and how much they've spent/signed seems a little silly to me considering we currently have one of the lightest and poor squads. We're the ones in desperate need to sign players really so i'd expect a few shortly, even if its retaining many of the loan players on permanent deals. Losing Mitro/Piazon/Kalas/Ojo/Nor wood/Targett to our squad is a huge hole to fill. As I said, not panicking but we do need to do some business before our pre season prep becomes wasted on players who will likely not play or drop into reserves.
Exactly, we have a lot more work to do than any other PL clubs. We currently have a total of 16 players in our first team squad and that includes Djalo, Cisse, Fonte, Woodrow. It's not just a matter of signing players. They need time to settle in as well. If we start this season like we did last year we will be more or less relegated by December.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 19, 2018, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 19, 2018, 08:14:54 AM
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Quote from: Statto on June 19, 2018, 12:24:13 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 18, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
or is it the agent just trying to create interest in his players by linking them to Fulham.
Anyway dont worry about signings, I have it on good authority from the cat at Motspur parks sister brother we are just going to sign the world cup dream team
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Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
or is it the agent just trying to create interest in his players by linking them to Fulham.
Anyway dont worry about signings, I have it on good authority from the cat at Motspur parks sister brother we are just going to sign the world cup dream team
I think a lot of the rumours come from agents (obviously), but I'd be pretty certain we're after (at least) one of their clients and then the rumours have come from the agent offering "X" player to us. Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 19, 2018, 06:18:15 PM
.....Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
Also agents for Ryan Fredericks (that one didn't work out totally to our advantage) and also Harry Kane (which could come in handy if the Mitro deal doesn't happen).
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.....Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
Also agents for Ryan Fredericks (that one didn't work out totally to our advantage) and also Harry Kane (which could come in handy if the Mitro deal doesn't happen).
I mean, there's not much we can do as far as agents go if another club is offering a level of money to the player (and presumably the agent) that we won't match.
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.....Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
Also agents for Ryan Fredericks (that one didn't work out totally to our advantage) and also Harry Kane (which could come in handy if the Mitro deal doesn't happen).
I mean, there's not much we can do as far as agents go if another club is offering a level of money to the player (and presumably the agent) that we won't match.
Nope. Not a thing. At the end of the day it's the folding green stuff that matters.
I am sure the agents love their clients dearly and have the greatest respect for the clubs they deal with - but it's the money they worship.
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So going back to the original point about Wolves, why should we resign ourselves to signing lower quality players than they get, just because they've got one particular agent effectively working in house for them?
Because that agent is controlling those specific players? I don't know what to tell you. Mendes just so happens to have made a deal with Wolves. It is no different than when Watford was loaning half of Udinese under Pozzo.
Doesn't mean we aim for "lower quality players", just that we can't get those specific ones.
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Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
or is it the agent just trying to create interest in his players by linking them to Fulham.
Anyway dont worry about signings, I have it on good authority from the cat at Motspur parks sister brother we are just going to sign the world cup dream team
I think a lot of the rumours come from agents (obviously), but I'd be pretty certain we're after (at least) one of their clients and then the rumours have come from the agent offering "X" player to us. Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
So going back to the original point about Wolves, why should we resign ourselves to signing lower quality players than they get, just because they've got one particular agent effectively working in house for them?
Your original point was talking about the Khan's "inability" to get an agent "onside". Which isn't fair, and more to the point isn't entirely legal. The Gestifute clients are just roped off for us, it's not the end of the world and doesn't prevent us from signing good players- just not those good players. Especially players like Rui Patricio who would be going to a top tier Champions League side were they not going to Wolves because of Mendes. He was literally about to join Napoli before Ancelotti came in.
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Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
or is it the agent just trying to create interest in his players by linking them to Fulham.
Anyway dont worry about signings, I have it on good authority from the cat at Motspur parks sister brother we are just going to sign the world cup dream team
I think a lot of the rumours come from agents (obviously), but I'd be pretty certain we're after (at least) one of their clients and then the rumours have come from the agent offering "X" player to us. Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
So going back to the original point about Wolves, why should we resign ourselves to signing lower quality players than they get, just because they've got one particular agent effectively working in house for them?
Your original point was talking about the Khan's "inability" to get an agent "onside". Which isn't fair, and more to the point isn't entirely legal. The Gestifute clients are just roped off for us, it's not the end of the world and doesn't prevent us from signing good players- just not those good players. Especially players like Rui Patricio who would be going to a top tier Champions League side were they not going to Wolves because of Mendes. He was literally about to join Napoli before Ancelotti came in.
Sorry but saying that "isn't entirely legal", I don't really buy that excuse. Either it is legal, or it's something illegal that you can get away with. Either way, if it gives you a competitive advantage, we should be doing it. Or doing something equivalent, albeit not as direct or concentrated through a single agent, which as I (and you) have said, we probably are doing. Which again goes back me original point that we should be looking and expecting to sign equally good players as Wolves are.
We can't sign players as good as Wolves. They were signing Champions League captains while they were in the Championship. They're being linked with signing Right-Backs for 35-40 million quid.
But that doesn't mean we can't sign quality players. We'll just be a bit more sensible about it and not be entirely beholden to the whims of one agent. I wouldn't expect us to compete with Everton and Leicester in-terms of transfers, so nor should I with Wolves because it'll most likely be those three competing for 7th next season meanwhile we'll be competing for 17th.
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Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
or is it the agent just trying to create interest in his players by linking them to Fulham.
Anyway dont worry about signings, I have it on good authority from the cat at Motspur parks sister brother we are just going to sign the world cup dream team
I think a lot of the rumours come from agents (obviously), but I'd be pretty certain we're after (at least) one of their clients and then the rumours have come from the agent offering "X" player to us. Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
So going back to the original point about Wolves, why should we resign ourselves to signing lower quality players than they get, just because they've got one particular agent effectively working in house for them?
Your original point was talking about the Khan's "inability" to get an agent "onside". Which isn't fair, and more to the point isn't entirely legal. The Gestifute clients are just roped off for us, it's not the end of the world and doesn't prevent us from signing good players- just not those good players. Especially players like Rui Patricio who would be going to a top tier Champions League side were they not going to Wolves because of Mendes. He was literally about to join Napoli before Ancelotti came in.
Sorry but saying that "isn't entirely legal", I don't really buy that excuse. Either it is legal, or it's something illegal that you can get away with. Either way, if it gives you a competitive advantage, we should be doing it. Or doing something equivalent, albeit not as direct or concentrated through a single agent, which as I (and you) have said, we probably are doing. Which again goes back me original point that we should be looking and expecting to sign equally good players as Wolves are.
We can't sign players as good as Wolves. They were signing Champions League captains while they were in the Championship. They're being linked with signing Right-Backs for 35-40 million quid.
But that doesn't mean we can't sign quality players. We'll just be a bit more sensible about it and not be entirely beholden to the whims of one agent. I wouldn't expect us to compete with Everton and Leicester in-terms of transfers, so nor should I with Wolves because it'll most likely be those three competing for 7th next season meanwhile we'll be competing for 17th.
Whoah, slow down there.. They're using the fact that their Portuguese coach is very highly regarded in Portugal and signing a lot of players from Portugal or who are Portuguese. It's equivalent to us signing mitrovic due to his serbian connection to slavisa. Stop being irrational.
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More fuel to to the Swedish LB rumour, however the bit about Sess is Hogwash
They're not wrong that it will ramp up speculation. Someone sneezing at Motspur Park would accomplish that, much less a signing that plays as LB and LW.
Lo and behold, their prediction came true: http://football-talk.co.uk/139336/transfer-news-man-utd-tottenham-given-fresh-hope-of-signing-50m-star/
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Wolves aren't our direct rivals. At least where transfers are concerned. Unless you fancy giving Jorge Mendes the freedom of Craven Cottage.
So our CEO and multibillionaire owner can't get a an agent onside somehow? Hardly a valid excuse, more like a damning indictment, if true.
Sorry but we should not feel inferior to Wolves in any way. The edge they had last season was because low investment in preceding seasons gave them a lot of wriggle room under FFP. That edge has gone.
So what you're saying is you'd want the Khan's to buy a stake in an agency like Fosun did with Gestifute, which isn't entirely legal and will most likely be made completely illegal in the next year or two exactly because of Wolves to sign players who are almost definitely just moving for the money. Plus, Mendes has a track record for royally screwing teams over by forcing his players onto teams like he did with Valencia and it set them back years. Also, a reminder that the last "super agent" team we saw in English football before Wolves were Doncaster and they got relegated from the Championship.
Somehow I think I'll take staying on the "white" side of all of this rather than moving into the grey, because it'll be a lot less messy when it all blows up. Plus it's not like you need a super agent to stay up. You just need to buy smartly like Huddersfield and Brighton did with Groß, Zanka, Izquierdo etc.
All transfer deals will be negotiated through an agent, and almost all players/agents will ultimately be looking primarily at the money, so to some extent I'm unsure what your point is.
I'm not saying we need one in-house, or that we can't avoid the odd agent who's particularly greedy or dodgy, but we cannot try to do transfer business without dealing with agents and spending money.
And It would make sense to have a few agents with whom we're on good familiar terms. Actually I expect we already do. Every club exploits those connections, just as we all do in equivalent everyday contexts like moving jobs or house.
We clearly are working with some specific agents though based on the rumours that are coming out. It's not a coincidence that Krychowiak, Roque Mesa and Grealish are all represented by the same agency. Don't be surprised to see another name or two crop up from this list of players either.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
My money would be on Conor Hourihane, Rob Holding and maybe Hart or Forster.
or is it the agent just trying to create interest in his players by linking them to Fulham.
Anyway dont worry about signings, I have it on good authority from the cat at Motspur parks sister brother we are just going to sign the world cup dream team
I think a lot of the rumours come from agents (obviously), but I'd be pretty certain we're after (at least) one of their clients and then the rumours have come from the agent offering "X" player to us. Same for Jordan Ayew, who's represented by the same agency that do Sessegnon, Cairney (and a few other Fulham players) so we'll be on good terms with them and they might have offered him to us.
So going back to the original point about Wolves, why should we resign ourselves to signing lower quality players than they get, just because they've got one particular agent effectively working in house for them?
Your original point was talking about the Khan's "inability" to get an agent "onside". Which isn't fair, and more to the point isn't entirely legal. The Gestifute clients are just roped off for us, it's not the end of the world and doesn't prevent us from signing good players- just not those good players. Especially players like Rui Patricio who would be going to a top tier Champions League side were they not going to Wolves because of Mendes. He was literally about to join Napoli before Ancelotti came in.
Sorry but saying that "isn't entirely legal", I don't really buy that excuse. Either it is legal, or it's something illegal that you can get away with. Either way, if it gives you a competitive advantage, we should be doing it. Or doing something equivalent, albeit not as direct or concentrated through a single agent, which as I (and you) have said, we probably are doing. Which again goes back me original point that we should be looking and expecting to sign equally good players as Wolves are.
We can't sign players as good as Wolves. They were signing Champions League captains while they were in the Championship. They're being linked with signing Right-Backs for 35-40 million quid.
But that doesn't mean we can't sign quality players. We'll just be a bit more sensible about it and not be entirely beholden to the whims of one agent. I wouldn't expect us to compete with Everton and Leicester in-terms of transfers, so nor should I with Wolves because it'll most likely be those three competing for 7th next season meanwhile we'll be competing for 17th.
Whoah, slow down there.. They're using the fact that their Portuguese coach is very highly regarded in Portugal and signing a lot of players from Portugal or who are Portuguese. It's equivalent to us signing mitrovic due to his serbian connection to slavisa. Stop being irrational.
There's a bit of a difference between signing Mitrovic, who couldn't get a game in the Prem last season, to Wolves signing Rui Patricio who's a genuine world class Keeper.
Can we keep this thread to actual transfer rumours rather than arguing about Wolves transfer dealings?? Over a page of posts but they're arguing about old news of Wolves and Jorge Mendes
My 2¢ Wolves will be top 6 in the Prem in 3 years. Is probably irrelevant talking about them though.
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Can we keep this thread to actual transfer rumours rather than arguing about Wolves transfer dealings?? Over a page of posts but they're arguing about old news of Wolves and Jorge Mendes
Well said and while we're at it, any chance of stopping this ridiculous replying to the WHOLE thread?
It takes up half a kin page each time!
Surely it's not difficult to edit so only the 'point' you are replying to is copied!?
Jack whilshire is leaving arsenal. I would take him in a heart beat. Would fit straight in with our style. Doubt we would pay his wages though
Seeing that it appears we have missed out on James Maddison. We need players of Jack Wilshire quality, they don't come round that often.
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on June 19, 2018, 08:33:10 PM
I wouldn't expect us to compete with Everton and Leicester in-terms of transfers, so nor should I with Wolves because it'll most likely be those three competing for 7th next season meanwhile we'll be competing for 17th.
On that point we'll have to agree to disagree. Everton and Leicester have probably received £500m in revenue whilst we've been in the Championship and I don't expect us to spend that. Wolves, however, are a small- to medium-sized club like us that have been in the championship even longer. They've no advantage or edge that isn't accessible to us. If they finish above us, it's because they've done something we didn't have the wherewithal to do. In other words, they'll have been better managed.
As it happens, however, I think Mendes may pull one or two rabbits out the hat but on the whole, we'll recruit as well as they do and finish as high in the league.
Personally I think Wolves are playing a dangerous game. They are going down the poo or bust route in many ways, and even tho they are seemingly getting good players via Mendes, if it all goes wrong they are going to have long term issues. I'd rather build a foundation first rather than a roof first.
Quote from: Tabby on June 19, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 19, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 19, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
More fuel to to the Swedish LB rumour, however the bit about Sess is Hogwash
They're not wrong that it will ramp up speculation. Someone sneezing at Motspur Park would accomplish that, much less a signing that plays as LB and LW.
Lo and behold, their prediction came true: http://football-talk.co.uk/139336/transfer-news-man-utd-tottenham-given-fresh-hope-of-signing-50m-star/
Thats the worst piece of click bait journalism I have seen for ages. So how do you take a boring rumour of journeyman left back going from Bremen to Fulham and make it attractive? Add in £50mm star Sessignon now interesting to Manure and Spuds "now been given fresh hope of signing ". A. Augustinnson would replace Targett and B. Sess plays left wing but dont let that get in the way of some top click bait!
Quote from: YoungsBitter on June 19, 2018, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 19, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 19, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 19, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
More fuel to to the Swedish LB rumour, however the bit about Sess is Hogwash
They're not wrong that it will ramp up speculation. Someone sneezing at Motspur Park would accomplish that, much less a signing that plays as LB and LW.
Lo and behold, their prediction came true: http://football-talk.co.uk/139336/transfer-news-man-utd-tottenham-given-fresh-hope-of-signing-50m-star/
Thats the worst piece of click bait journalism I have seen for ages. So how do you take a boring rumour of journeyman left back going from Bremen to Fulham and make it attractive? Add in £50mm star Sessignon now interesting to Manure and Spuds "now been given fresh hope of signing ". A. Augustinnson would replace Targett and B. Sess plays left wing but dont let that get in the way of some top click bait!
I wouldn't be disappointed in Augustinnson. Ex-midfielder and good with this feet, top assists for a defender a few years back, only 24, could suit us. If we could get him and perhaps a perm experienced loaner/ free transfer such as Joel ward (plus Sess and Odoi if needed) I'd be happy with our LB options
https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/werder-bremen-sporting-director-rebuffs-14805352
If we can get Jack Wilshire on a free transfer i would say it would be a great signing.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/west-ham-everton-fulham-heading-interest-world-cup-defender-offers-made/
West Ham, Everton Fulham heading interest in World Cup defender, offers made
Besiktas defender Domagoj Vida is being linked with a move to the Premier League with Everton, Fulham and West Ham United reportedly heading the interest.
Vida only joined Beskitas in the last transfer window, and the Turkish club reportedly faced a fight with Everton at the time.
Sozcu say West Ham, Everton and Fulham are currently leading the race for the Croatian international and that offers have been made for the defender.
It's reported the highest bid received by Besiktas is €13m plus €2m add-ons, but the club hasn't been disclosed.
The three Premier League sides will be looking to recruit in this window and the Turkish media insist Vida is an option.
Vida is currently in Russia with the Croatian national team and Besiktas are hoping his value may increase if he has a good World Cup.
The central defender joined Besiktas on a free transfer from Dynamo Kyiv in January, but struggled to cement place in the Turkish side's starting eleven.
Allegedly interested in Josef De Souza of Fenerbahce and have offered 12m Euros for him according to Goal.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 20, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/west-ham-everton-fulham-heading-interest-world-cup-defender-offers-made/
West Ham, Everton Fulham heading interest in World Cup defender, offers made
Besiktas defender Domagoj Vida is being linked with a move to the Premier League with Everton, Fulham and West Ham United reportedly heading the interest.
Vida only joined Beskitas in the last transfer window, and the Turkish club reportedly faced a fight with Everton at the time.
Sozcu say West Ham, Everton and Fulham are currently leading the race for the Croatian international and that offers have been made for the defender.
It's reported the highest bid received by Besiktas is €13m plus €2m add-ons, but the club hasn't been disclosed.
The three Premier League sides will be looking to recruit in this window and the Turkish media insist Vida is an option.
Vida is currently in Russia with the Croatian national team and Besiktas are hoping his value may increase if he has a good World Cup.
The central defender joined Besiktas on a free transfer from Dynamo Kyiv in January, but struggled to cement place in the Turkish side's starting eleven.
He'd be an excellent signing, aggressive and good will ball at his feet. Can play anywhere across the back four.
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Vida and de Souza both 29. The club are going to have to make a decision at some point: stick with the policy of signing young players, who cost £20m-£30m each at this level, or settle for older players at a fraction of the price but little or no resale potential.
To be honest I'd sort of chuck that policy out of the window until next year when we're confirmed in the prem for another season and get another £120m for staying up. Players in the late 20's will probably have 2-3 seasons at their peak level anyway as players are far better looked after physically nowadays. Therefore as long as we get in good players who will have a few years of playing at their peak ahead of them, prove their worth and still go for a couple million when they're surplus to requirement is probably the way to view this year. Plus they're probably better value for money straight away than young players as you're buying them for current ability rather than what they could become.
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 20, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Vida and de Souza both 29. The club are going to have to make a decision at some point: stick with the policy of signing young players, who cost £20m-£30m each at this level, or settle for older players at a fraction of the price but little or no resale potential.
To be honest I'd sort of chuck that policy out of the window until next year when we're confirmed in the prem for another season and get another £120m for staying up. Players in the late 20's will probably have 2-3 seasons at their peak level anyway as players are far better looked after physically nowadays. Therefore as long as we get in good players who will have a few years of playing at their peak ahead of them, prove their worth and still go for a couple million when they're surplus to requirement is probably the way to view this year. Plus they're probably better value for money straight away than young players as you're buying them for current ability rather than what they could become.
have to say i agree with that outlook completely. players needed to almost hit the ground running and although you cant guarantee that with overseas players, i see what your point is
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 20, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Vida and de Souza both 29. The club are going to have to make a decision at some point: stick with the policy of signing young players, who cost £20m-£30m each at this level, or settle for older players at a fraction of the price but little or no resale potential.
To be honest I'd sort of chuck that policy out of the window until next year when we're confirmed in the prem for another season and get another £120m for staying up. Players in the late 20's will probably have 2-3 seasons at their peak level anyway as players are far better looked after physically nowadays. Therefore as long as we get in good players who will have a few years of playing at their peak ahead of them, prove their worth and still go for a couple million when they're surplus to requirement is probably the way to view this year. Plus they're probably better value for money straight away than young players as you're buying them for current ability rather than what they could become.
Thats pretty much the tactic we used and got us relegated.
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 20, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Vida and de Souza both 29. The club are going to have to make a decision at some point: stick with the policy of signing young players, who cost £20m-£30m each at this level, or settle for older players at a fraction of the price but little or no resale potential.
To be honest I'd sort of chuck that policy out of the window until next year when we're confirmed in the prem for another season and get another £120m for staying up. Players in the late 20's will probably have 2-3 seasons at their peak level anyway as players are far better looked after physically nowadays. Therefore as long as we get in good players who will have a few years of playing at their peak ahead of them, prove their worth and still go for a couple million when they're surplus to requirement is probably the way to view this year. Plus they're probably better value for money straight away than young players as you're buying them for current ability rather than what they could become.
Thats pretty much the tactic we used and got us relegated.
Well that's not strictly true, we signed players over 30 who were free or loans who were no hopers mostly. I'm saying buy players in late £20's that are decent, not scrape the bargain players who are going to get you relegated. Like yourself over the past few seasons I completely agree with buying younger players who will get better and go up in value, but spending good money on players in their late 20's is slightly different to what got us relegated, even if you do need to be cautious about who you spend money on because increased value doesn't always mean a better player when bringing someone in from a foreign league. Ideally I'd go for a blend of both youth and experience, but I'm not privy to the transfer tactics of the club, nor how much they're willing to spend on a single position or in total so it's irrelevant really.
Younger players who have have the ability in the first place as the PL can be a harsh learning environment,if not then over 25 y.o with a proven track record.
To stay up Khan jr and Co need to get it right first time on this coming season .
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't get why age has to be an issue. if its at the right price, the wages aren't outrageous and the manager/club feel the player can add the required attitude and skill set to the squad, I'm not sure why it should be a deal breaker...Krul for instance would be a decent signing if the contracts are appropriate and could really help develop Betts.
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Vida and de Souza both 29. The club are going to have to make a decision at some point: stick with the policy of signing young players, who cost £20m-£30m each at this level, or settle for older players at a fraction of the price but little or no resale potential.
I think a broad mix of youth and experience is the way forward.
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
Fredericks went to Vegas with that group of players. Holidaying together literally means nothing
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 20, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
Fredericks went to Vegas with that group of players. Holidaying together literally means nothing
The other players put their bar tabs on Fredericks .
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 20, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
Fredericks went to Vegas with that group of players. Holidaying together literally means nothing
Yeah but that was a team holiday out together by Tony khan by all accounts. This is just the three of them so clearly they must be good mates.
Exactly 6 weeks today left of the transfer window.
Not worried yet that we haven't signed anyone but if we havent in 2 weeks time especially as I reckon we need at least 6 or more quality players to add to our squad I will be getting concerned we won't have a squad adequate or ready for our return to the Prem.
Are people not concerned that we could have no signings for the start of pre season and an inadequate squad. The same thing happened last year meaning we weren't ready for the start of the season and we had a poor first half of the season. The team wasn't cohesive because the squad hadn't been together for very long.
I'm concerned that this could happen again this year which could really determine the outcome of the season. I really do feel we need to try and act more quickly so that the 'finalised' squad can have as much of the pre season together as they can. This inactivity for me is quite worrying
Quote from: Rambler on June 20, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Are people not concerned that we could have no signings for the start of pre season and an inadequate squad. The same thing happened last year meaning we weren't ready for the start of the season and we had a poor first half of the season. The team wasn't cohesive because the squad hadn't been together for very long.
I'm concerned that this could happen again this year which could really determine the outcome of the season. I really do feel we need to try and act more quickly so that the 'finalised' squad can have as much of the pre season together as they can. This inactivity for me is quite worrying
I think most of us are concerned about it but also realize that it doesn't matter if players signs today or in 11 days, they will still be able to start pre season with us.
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Quote from: Rambler on June 20, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Are people not concerned that we could have no signings for the start of pre season and an inadequate squad. The same thing happened last year meaning we weren't ready for the start of the season and we had a poor first half of the season. The team wasn't cohesive because the squad hadn't been together for very long.
I'm concerned that this could happen again this year which could really determine the outcome of the season. I really do feel we need to try and act more quickly so that the 'finalised' squad can have as much of the pre season together as they can. This inactivity for me is quite worrying
Ah yes, the dreaded "we've signed no players"worry. Almost as bad as the "player we signed is not premier league quality" worry, which in turn is preferable to the "new signing is over the hill" worry, only leaving the "if they have signed for us, there must be something amiss with them, but I can't quite put my finger on it worry" as a catch-all worry to ensure that whatever the position we are in, worriers need never be short of a reason to worry.
We won our last game at Wembley, gave John Terry an appropriate send off, there's a World Cup on and the weathers quite nice too. But it's the longest day tomorrow, so the nights will be drawing in giving us reasonable grounds to worry about the onset of winter.
Nope, not worried at all.
Quote from: Carborundum on June 20, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
1500.gifQuote from: Rambler on June 20, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Are people not concerned that we could have no signings for the start of pre season and an inadequate squad. The same thing happened last year meaning we weren't ready for the start of the season and we had a poor first half of the season. The team wasn't cohesive because the squad hadn't been together for very long.
I'm concerned that this could happen again this year which could really determine the outcome of the season. I really do feel we need to try and act more quickly so that the 'finalised' squad can have as much of the pre season together as they can. This inactivity for me is quite worrying
Ah yes, the dreaded "we've signed no players"worry. Almost as bad as the "player we signed is not premier league quality" worry, which in turn is preferable to the "new signing is over the hill" worry, only leaving the "if they have signed for us, there must be something amiss with them, but I can't quite put my finger on it worry" as a catch-all worry to ensure that whatever the position we are in, worriers need never be short of a reason to worry.
We won our last game at Wembley, gave John Terry an appropriate send off, there's a World Cup on and the weathers quite nice too. But it's the longest day tomorrow, so the nights will be drawing in giving us reasonable grounds to worry about the onset of winter.
Nope, not worried at all.
That was the funniest response I have seen on here for ages, well said that man!
Quote from: YoungsBitter on June 20, 2018, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: Carborundum on June 20, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
1500.gifQuote from: Rambler on June 20, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Are people not concerned that we could have no signings for the start of pre season and an inadequate squad. The same thing happened last year meaning we weren't ready for the start of the season and we had a poor first half of the season. The team wasn't cohesive because the squad hadn't been together for very long.
I'm concerned that this could happen again this year which could really determine the outcome of the season. I really do feel we need to try and act more quickly so that the 'finalised' squad can have as much of the pre season together as they can. This inactivity for me is quite worrying
Ah yes, the dreaded "we've signed no players"worry. Almost as bad as the "player we signed is not premier league quality" worry, which in turn is preferable to the "new signing is over the hill" worry, only leaving the "if they have signed for us, there must be something amiss with them, but I can't quite put my finger on it worry" as a catch-all worry to ensure that whatever the position we are in, worriers need never be short of a reason to worry.
We won our last game at Wembley, gave John Terry an appropriate send off, there's a World Cup on and the weathers quite nice too. But it's the longest day tomorrow, so the nights will be drawing in giving us reasonable grounds to worry about the onset of winter.
Nope, not worried at all.
That was the funniest response I have seen on here for ages, well said that man!
Absolutely, well said!
Someone clearly agrees with me:
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/20/tt-fulham-signing-derbys-scott-carson-would-be-better-than-acqui/
Really think Carson would be a good signing for us and end up being our number 1.
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 20, 2018, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 20, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/west-ham-everton-fulham-heading-interest-world-cup-defender-offers-made/
West Ham, Everton Fulham heading interest in World Cup defender, offers made
Besiktas defender Domagoj Vida is being linked with a move to the Premier League with Everton, Fulham and West Ham United reportedly heading the interest.
Vida only joined Beskitas in the last transfer window, and the Turkish club reportedly faced a fight with Everton at the time.
Sozcu say West Ham, Everton and Fulham are currently leading the race for the Croatian international and that offers have been made for the defender.
It's reported the highest bid received by Besiktas is €13m plus €2m add-ons, but the club hasn't been disclosed.
The three Premier League sides will be looking to recruit in this window and the Turkish media insist Vida is an option.
Vida is currently in Russia with the Croatian national team and Besiktas are hoping his value may increase if he has a good World Cup.
The central defender joined Besiktas on a free transfer from Dynamo Kyiv in January, but struggled to cement place in the Turkish side's starting eleven.
He'd be an excellent signing, aggressive and good will ball at his feet. Can play anywhere across the back four.
Interesting after all the comments about Wolves and their unique ability to tap into the Portugese market. Maybe our advantage is Slava, having a coach who speaks serbo-croat ( allowing for dialect differences), it worked with Mitro and hopefully it gives us some advantage with Serbian and Croatia signings?
What Ever will be will be.Not going to be Worried.I will be there for our first game whatever the team is.I am going to have a fantastic summer basking in the glory of our previous season.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on June 21, 2018, 12:40:40 AM
What Ever will be will be.Not going to be Worried.I will be there for our first game whatever the team is.I am going to have a fantastic summer basking in the glory of our previous season.
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Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
But would we want him? Joka preferred using a 178cm fullback in his position, even when Kalas was back from injury. Why would we want a player that wasn't good enough for our starting 11 in the Championship? Same goes for Norwood really. I think we need to aim higher.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 21, 2018, 08:39:40 AM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
But would we want him? Joka preferred using a 178cm fullback in his position, even when Kalas was back from injury. Why would we want a player that wasn't good enough for our starting 11 in the Championship? Same goes for Norwood really. I think we need to aim higher.
Agreed but for £5-6m he will hold his value for the next 3-4 years and provide some depth nonetheless. Also seems to add to dressing room in terms of popularity.
Comes down to how much money is floating around I suppose.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 21, 2018, 08:39:40 AM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
But would we want him? Joka preferred using a 178cm fullback in his position, even when Kalas was back from injury. Why would we want a player that wasn't good enough for our starting 11 in the Championship? Same goes for Norwood really. I think we need to aim higher.
Harsh IMO. Kalas got injured and was replaced by Odoi in the squad who was excellent for the most part (QPR error aside). There's a lot to be said for a settled side and Odoi was a key part during the unbeaten run. Norwood also did well with his cameos after Cairney was back in the XI and although I agree that we should be aiming higher than him, I wouldn't say no to having him in the squad for depth.
Quote from: TheBadger on June 21, 2018, 08:50:35 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 21, 2018, 08:39:40 AM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
But would we want him? Joka preferred using a 178cm fullback in his position, even when Kalas was back from injury. Why would we want a player that wasn't good enough for our starting 11 in the Championship? Same goes for Norwood really. I think we need to aim higher.
Harsh IMO. Kalas got injured and was replaced by Odoi in the squad who was excellent for the most part (QPR error aside). There's a lot to be said for a settled side and Odoi was a key part during the unbeaten run. Norwood also did well with his cameos after Cairney was back in the XI and although I agree that we should be aiming higher than him, I wouldn't say no to having him in the squad for depth.
I did think myself initially that we should aim higher,but having thought about it kalas,piazon will only get better and Norwood deserves a chance if only as back up.
Quote from: hovewhite on June 21, 2018, 09:11:21 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on June 21, 2018, 08:50:35 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 21, 2018, 08:39:40 AM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on June 20, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
But would we want him? Joka preferred using a 178cm fullback in his position, even when Kalas was back from injury. Why would we want a player that wasn't good enough for our starting 11 in the Championship? Same goes for Norwood really. I think we need to aim higher.
Harsh IMO. Kalas got injured and was replaced by Odoi in the squad who was excellent for the most part (QPR error aside). There's a lot to be said for a settled side and Odoi was a key part during the unbeaten run. Norwood also did well with his cameos after Cairney was back in the XI and although I agree that we should be aiming higher than him, I wouldn't say no to having him in the squad for depth.
I did think myself initially that we should aim higher,but having thought about it kalas,piazon will only get better and Norwood deserves a chance if only as back up.
Exactly - as much as I agree that aiming high is the preference, we need depth. My ideal would be to sign all of the loans we had from last season and add to that with quality. IE, a quality CB, CM, RW.
Loftus-Cheek anyone?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/20/ruben-loftus-cheek-england-chelsea
Would take big money I imagine.
Quote from: TheBadger on June 21, 2018, 09:53:04 AM
Loftus-Cheek anyone?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/20/ruben-loftus-cheek-england-chelsea
Would take big money I imagine.
I'd say our only chance is on loan.
I can't disagree with the fact that we need depth at CB. But I don't think we will sign Kalas for depth, he's probably too expensive for that. If we get him I think the intention will be to use him in the starting 11.
Would you still be ok with signing him if he turns out to be our only "true and tested" CB besides Ream next season?
Personally I would be delighted to sign Kalas for depth but as regular starter in the Prem? Probably not IMO. Even if he's good enough he's too injury prone to rely on as a regular starter.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 21, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
I can't disagree with the fact that we need depth at CB. But I don't think we will sign Kalas for depth, he's probably too expensive for that. If we get him I think the intention will be to use him in the starting 11.
Would you still be ok with signing him if he turns out to be our only "true and tested" CB besides Ream next season?
Personally I would be delighted to sign Kalas for depth but as regular starter in the Prem? Probably not IMO. Even if he's good enough he's too injury prone to rely on as a regular starter.
What is too expensive in this day and age though? Rumoured fee for Kalas and Piazon is £8.5m combined - you might attribute £5 mill of that to Kalas. It's not a bad fee for a guy who has been part of our set up for the last two years, played a very good role in both play off run ventures and who is ultimately have a re-sale value.
While I think he is not the ultimate answer at CB, I certainly would not be unhappy with his signing.
My main problem with the Kalas transfer was the alleged asking price of £10 million. At £8.5 million for him and Piazon I endorse it, we have a threadbare squad. We need to get at least 2 CB's as we currently only have one.
Quote from: TheBadger on June 21, 2018, 10:37:41 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on June 21, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
I can't disagree with the fact that we need depth at CB. But I don't think we will sign Kalas for depth, he's probably too expensive for that. If we get him I think the intention will be to use him in the starting 11.
Would you still be ok with signing him if he turns out to be our only "true and tested" CB besides Ream next season?
Personally I would be delighted to sign Kalas for depth but as regular starter in the Prem? Probably not IMO. Even if he's good enough he's too injury prone to rely on as a regular starter.
What is too expensive in this day and age though? Rumoured fee for Kalas and Piazon is £8.5m combined - you might attribute £5 mill of that to Kalas. It's not a bad fee for a guy who has been part of our set up for the last two years, played a very good role in both play off run ventures and who is ultimately have a re-sale value.
While I think he is not the ultimate answer at CB, I certainly would not be unhappy with his signing.
Ok, I'll have to admit THAT seems like a good deal. That rumour must have slipped under my radar, I thought it was around 8.5m for Kalas alone???
Deeney for £10m apparently available. anyone?
Quote from: Carborundum on June 20, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
1500.gifQuote from: Rambler on June 20, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Are people not concerned that we could have no signings for the start of pre season and an inadequate squad. The same thing happened last year meaning we weren't ready for the start of the season and we had a poor first half of the season. The team wasn't cohesive because the squad hadn't been together for very long.
I'm concerned that this could happen again this year which could really determine the outcome of the season. I really do feel we need to try and act more quickly so that the 'finalised' squad can have as much of the pre season together as they can. This inactivity for me is quite worrying
Ah yes, the dreaded "we've signed no players"worry. Almost as bad as the "player we signed is not premier league quality" worry, which in turn is preferable to the "new signing is over the hill" worry, only leaving the "if they have signed for us, there must be something amiss with them, but I can't quite put my finger on it worry" as a catch-all worry to ensure that whatever the position we are in, worriers need never be short of a reason to worry.
We won our last game at Wembley, gave John Terry an appropriate send off, there's a World Cup on and the weathers quite nice too. But it's the longest day tomorrow, so the nights will be drawing in giving us reasonable grounds to worry about the onset of winter.
Nope, not worried at all.
Fair enough. Enjoy the summer and WC first. This discussion won't really be proven or disproven until the season starts anyway.
We have 11 days until pre season so plenty of time to get a couple of players in for then anyway
Loftus-Cheek would be an amazing signing - sadly I think he could command a regular place in a more established Premier League team with a larger profile than ours (before we even factor in cost / wage expectations), so think it highly unlikely we'll see him in a Fulham shirt next season.
Wilshere on the other hand, would make an excellent pick-up on a free and would fit our style of play very well. Wage demands again may be high but hopefully not having a transfer fee could offset that somewhat when assessing his overall cost to get him in, plus at 26 is in the age range we seem to be generally going for over the last few seasons. Would be delighted to see you us go for him.
Quote from: corbs83 on June 21, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
Deeney for £10m apparently available. anyone?
Aaaah! A wave of nostalgia sweeps over me. The Budgie Byrne of the 21st century.
And there we have the essence of this incredible thread.
Within a few posts: From Troy Deeney to Ruben Loftus-Cheek.
From the ridiculous to the sublime.
Deeney at 10m doesn't seem a bad deal considering the current market to be honest....
Deeney could be good value at that price, but is he good with his feet? Always struck me as being more of a traditional target man who thrives with the long punt and lots of high balls, which isn't our game really.
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Deeney for £10m apparently available. anyone?
Aaaah! A wave of nostalgia sweeps over me. The Budgie Byrne of the 21st
Younger supporters will be saying "Who?"
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Quote from: corbs83 on June 21, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
Deeney for £10m apparently available. anyone?
Aaaah! A wave of nostalgia sweeps over me. The Budgie Byrne of the 21st
Younger supporters will be saying "Who?"
Ah yes, well nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Tell them to imagine a portly, one time decent, striker of declining output whose recruitment coincided with our relegation from the top division.
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Quote from: corbs83 on June 21, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
Deeney for £10m apparently available. anyone?
Aaaah! A wave of nostalgia sweeps over me. The Budgie Byrne of the 21st
Younger supporters will be saying "Who?"
Ah yes, well nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Tell them to imagine a portly, one time decent, striker of declining output whose recruitment coincided with our relegation from the top division.
So Darren Bent.
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Quote from: corbs83 on June 21, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
Deeney for £10m apparently available. anyone?
Aaaah! A wave of nostalgia sweeps over me. The Budgie Byrne of the 21st
Younger supporters will be saying "Who?"
Ah yes, well nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Tell them to imagine a portly, one time decent, striker of declining output whose recruitment coincided with our relegation from the top division.
So Darren Bent.
Exactly. What could possibly go wrong?
And, at peak, Deeney was never anything like as good as Bent.
"Tell them to imagine a portly, one time decent, striker of declining output whose recruitment coincided with our relegation from the top division"
I played in the same team as messrs Byrne and Hollins,,,,,,, unfortunately not the stars of divi - 1 Johnny and John but their brothers Micky and Tony ,,,,,,,, both very very good players.
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Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
Fredericks went to Vegas with that group of players. Holidaying together literally means nothing
Yeah but that was a team holiday out together by Tony khan by all accounts. This is just the three of them so clearly they must be good mates.
Betts is on holiday now with Jack Grimmer. That obviously means Betts is off to Coventry
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Kalas is on holiday with bets and McDonald so he could be signing
Fredericks went to Vegas with that group of players. Holidaying together literally means nothing
Yeah but that was a team holiday out together by Tony khan by all accounts. This is just the three of them so clearly they must be good mates.
Betts is on holiday now with Jack Grimmer. That obviously means Betts is off to Coventry
Point proven. Would be a good signing for them though haha
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 21, 2018, 12:17:14 PM
Deeney at 10m doesn't seem a bad deal considering the current market to be honest....
Please no
Quote from: Count Flapula on June 21, 2018, 11:04:37 AM
Loftus-Cheek would be an amazing signing - sadly I think he could command a regular place in a more established Premier League team with a larger profile than ours (before we even factor in cost / wage expectations), so think it highly unlikely we'll see him in a Fulham shirt next season.
Wilshere on the other hand, would make an excellent pick-up on a free and would fit our style of play very well. Wage demands again may be high but hopefully not having a transfer fee could offset that somewhat when assessing his overall cost to get him in, plus at 26 is in the age range we seem to be generally going for over the last few seasons. Would be delighted to see you us go for him.
I did read that Arsenal are ready to release Wilshire but can't believe it is for free. If he is on a free I imagine there will be a long queue waiting to sign him.
His contract has expired so he's a free agent. He'll probably end up at West Ham
Quote from: Ordar on June 21, 2018, 04:59:12 PM
His contract has expired so he's a free agent. He'll probably end up at West Ham
They are in for every player with 2 feet. If you add up all the fees it must come to £250 mil.
I don't buy all this 'we're waiting until after the world cup to bring players in.' It doesn't seem to have stopped anyone else..
What is your opinion on this.
I think we could find solutions to all of our problems in Peru national team. Right-wing - Carillo, right-back - Advincula, goalkeeper - Gallese.
Quote from: Carborundum on June 20, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
Ah yes, the dreaded "we've signed no players"worry. Almost as bad as the "player we signed is not premier league quality" worry, which in turn is preferable to the "new signing is over the hill" worry, only leaving the "if they have signed for us, there must be something amiss with them, but I can't quite put my finger on it worry" as a catch-all worry to ensure that whatever the position we are in, worriers need never be short of a reason to worry.
Nice humour.
If I may add a small point to your characterisation: in summers past, when the transfer window ran to the end of August, it always seemed that the worriers' benchmark was to have our transfer business done by the first game of the season. Now that the window shuts before the season begins, however, this benchmark appears to have shifted to 'before the pre-season friendlies'.
Think we will be messing around as usual to the last bell,that's typical fulhamish.
There's a rumour that Southampton are willing to let Tadic go for £15,000,000 with Ajax interested. Another Serb on the move?
https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/06/20/report-southampton-could-sell-tadic-to-ajax-for-20m/
Southampton could sell Serbia midfielder Dusan Tadic, with Ajax interested in the 29-year-old. (NBC Sports)
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There's a rumour that Southampton are willing to let Tadic go for £15,000,000 with Ajax interested. Another Serb on the move?
https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/06/20/report-southampton-could-sell-tadic-to-ajax-for-20m/
Southampton could sell Serbia midfielder Dusan Tadic, with Ajax interested in the 29-year-old. (NBC Sports)
It's 99% done deal, 17.000.000e, reliable inside source. He's sold, contract not signed tho so.. unless he turns it down last second, then again, Mitro did fail Anderlecht move last second.
Brighton have signed Sunderland keeper Steele. Krul to Fulham close?
Quote from: Arthur on June 21, 2018, 06:39:03 PM
Quote from: Carborundum on June 20, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
Ah yes, the dreaded "we've signed no players"worry. Almost as bad as the "player we signed is not premier league quality" worry, which in turn is preferable to the "new signing is over the hill" worry, only leaving the "if they have signed for us, there must be something amiss with them, but I can't quite put my finger on it worry" as a catch-all worry to ensure that whatever the position we are in, worriers need never be short of a reason to worry.
Nice humour.
If I may add a small point to your characterisation: in summers past, when the transfer window ran to the end of August, it always seemed that the worriers' benchmark was to have our transfer business done by the first game of the season. Now that the window shuts before the season begins, however, this benchmark appears to have shifted to 'before the pre-season friendlies'.
Very good point.
Should a player arrive whose quality, age, experience and standing in the game mean that they are unquestionably a great signing for us, then my analysis breaks down. Instead, I'll be worrying that their commensurate salary will create divisions in the dressing room that leads inexorably to our decline.
The phrase "Haters gonna hate" has a footballing twin. "Worriers gonna worry"
Quote from: MrFFC on June 21, 2018, 08:24:17 PM
Brighton have signed Sunderland keeper Steele. Krul to Fulham close?
Also makes the Button to them rumour unlikely. Shame, £4m would have been great business for us
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Vida played well tonight
Looks like this Gönül from Beskitas still on but dont believe it.Saw on Twitter we are also interestet in Ben Gibson.Hope we finally start early to sign some players need a full sqaud for pre season!Hope Tony wakes up!
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Quote from: FFC1987 on June 21, 2018, 12:17:14 PM
Deeney at 10m doesn't seem a bad deal considering the current market to be honest....
Please no
Deeney not cutting the Mustard at Watford these days.
Quote from: Statto on June 22, 2018, 12:37:45 AM
Ah yes, the old "blind faith" position
Anyway... seems to me the concerns about FFC's summer business are perfectly valid. We've been shockingly slow in most recent transfer windows, resulting in us taking until Christmas to start playing decent football last year. The window closes earlier than ever this year. As a newly-promoted club that was heavily reliant on loans, we need to do more business than anyone, except perhaps Cardiff, but they've already done some substantial business. It's now almost 4 weeks since we were promoted and we've signed no one. In 2 weeks, pre-season training starts, and however much it may upset you to hear it, that is, on any reasonable analysis, when we should be getting a substantial number of signings over the line if we want our players to start the season knowing each other's names.
If none of that bothers you, you're either not a Fulham fan, or not the full ticket.
Not an accurate last line.
Both viewpoints (to be bothered and not to be bothered) are valid for the simple reason that you (I am assuming) and I do not know enough information to do anything other than speculate as to whether the Club has been guilty of sitting on its hands these past four weeks. As such, I have no alternative but to be blind in my faith: your lack of faith, however, is no less blind.
How satisfied would you be, moreover, were Cardiff's 'substantial business' to have been our transfer dealings instead? At this stage, I'd rather us be in the position of having spent nothing and signed no one than having shelled out a (reportedly) significant sum acquiring Murphy and Cunningham. You may think differently.
To claim that the time it took to complete last summer's transfer dealings was the cause of our mediocre form until Christmas is also speculative. If it can be argued that it needed almost four months from the end of August to integrate our new players, then - looking at it logically - even had we done our business by the beginning of July, it would have been no earlier than late-October before we found our form. (Nor is your line of reasoning supported by the evidence of our January transfer window - whereby neither Mitrovic nor Targett needed any length of time before making a positive contribution.)
Very good, logical points Arthur. It's true, of course, that we have in the past been slow bringing people in but surely this year is different. It's nearly 20 years since we were last promoted to the top tier and we all know that the money now available to newly promoted teams is at an all time peak. Just as well, as we also know that it's never been more necessary to invest in a promoted squad, as not to do so would be tantamount to throwing in the towel before the contest even begins.
Seems to me that our owner has just seen the value of his UK football club investment recover to, at least that on the day he made it, with the prospect of further enhancement if the lessons of the early years of his involvement have been learned. From everything we've heard and seen over the past 12 months, surely there is room for optimism and belief that our Chairman and his son will be doing everything in their power to a) hold on to our excellent head coach, b) retain and build on the nucleus of our successful squad and c) capitalise on the brilliant reputation that has been established for quality football to attract quality players, valuable sponsors and a loyal following, both fan base and corporate.
Whether or not we can actually succeed in attracting the quality recruits we pursue, remains to be seen but surely there can be no doubt that all concerned at the helm of our club, know what needs doing and will be trying their utmost to make it happen. I think we're now quite an attractive proposition and hopefully we'll be punching our weight in all our dealings from hereon.
Really looking forward to seeing things unfold over the next few weeks. I'm sure there'll be some disappointments, as we miss out on prime targets, after all, we're swimming with sharks now but equally, I'm confident we'll see some real strengthening going on, which we can cheer. Some obvious, as was superkev and some maybe less so, like our promotion season player of the year.
What a great time to be a Fulham supporter!
In respect of shad the value of the club has gone through the roof ,add to that the s/t hike then it's recovered his initial stake.
On transfers I'm sure a lot of deals are being set up,(hope!).
I am not concerned about the lack of transfer action atm!
I am fully aware that all the players we are going to buy are all still heavily involved in the World Cup!
Also, behind the scenes our team are busy (quietly) making deals, they just don't want to publicise every bit of business they do.
Patience is a virtue 😀
COYW
I'm confident our Club is doing what the vast majority of clubs are doing i.e. working damn hard to get in the players they need.
But its not unreasonable to hope that the right players are brought in earlier and given as much of a preseason as possible, unlike the recent past.
It seems our HC now has more input in the signings but lets not kid ourselves, Khan Jnr still needs his stats system to have a big say in any deals to justify his role.
Maybe that's a good thing?
I've no doubt a big part of the recruitment teams aim is to bring in bargains and increase their value over time which is always likely to have its issues.
As always this thread ends up with no transfer rumors. Maybe we need another thread for this kind of discussions?
The general lack of transfer activity is a result of the WC. Clubs want to see if their players enhance their value before setting a price on them. The window isn´t open yet & players contracts end on 30 June. Some transfers such as Fredericks do not officially come into effect until 1 July.. July will be an absolute mad scramble with feet going through the roof. £10 mil will not buy you much & the benchmark seems to be double that as seen with Grealish, Morrison Mitrovic etc.
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As always this thread ends up with no transfer rumors. Maybe we need another thread for this kind of discussions?
Why does it have to be on a different thread?
If all this thread had was transfer rumours from respectable sources, then you'd have 3 posts about Ayew and that would be it.
Have to agree, it's a transfer thread and should include anything related to the subject instead of lots of different threads.
Transfer rumours are of no interest to me. I prefer to wait for something on the Offal before I comment on a specific player. You will all drive yourselves mad reading rubbish from the large number of lazy bedroom Journos.
Just to back up all of the scepticism about transfers, speculation, and whatever else we can have a discussion about, Aston Villa report they have received no offers for Grealish's services as of yesterday. It seems this month is largely a month of lots of hot air other than the transfers we already know about. Having said that however, I am also lacking in confidence as some others are because much of our recruitment teams 'previous' is underwhelming to say the least and that cannot be seriously argued about. The difference we all need to focus on is getting off to a good start and not having to spend the first three months of the season watching players get accustomed to each other. That means delivering things very soon because in seven weeks time the season will be starting.
Personally I don't think there can be any doubt that our late recruitment last summer hurt our pre-season preparation (yes it was also poorly planned and executed).
I am concerned that we don't commit the same mistake this year at an even more difficult level of competition.
I do not want to see second rate signings just for the sake of it and I do recognise that in a world cup year we need to be extra patient. BUT by no means all potential targets are involved in the WC and we should be getting that side of our business done asap. leaving just the WC targets for later. That way there is minimum disruption to squad preparation and maximum integration time. At the moment I see zero signs of any determination to get some initial business done and dusted.
Am I worried? Emphatically yes.
I just meant that considering the current market where Jordon Ayew is rated at circa 10m, Deeney at 10m doesn't seem too steep at that price. Not an endorsement that I wish for him to sign for us. Although he wouldn't be the worst squad striker one could have at that price. I'd expect if Tadic is leaving Saints, that Shaqiri might be linking up with Hughes again? Regarding Wiltshire, skysports suggesting Westham are in for him. More likely considering they could offer the wages. Townsend also now being linked with Newcastle.
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HAMMERS CAIRNEY BID REJECTED
Fulham have rejected £20m bid from West Ham United for Tom Cairney, Sky sources understand. The midfielder was promoted to the Premier League with the Cottagers after scoring the winner in last month's Championship play-off final.
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HAMMERS CAIRNEY BID REJECTED
Fulham have rejected £20m bid from West Ham United for Tom Cairney, Sky sources understand. The midfielder was promoted to the Premier League with the Cottagers after scoring the winner in last month's Championship play-off final.
Please stay at east London west ham ...this club is getting more and more unsympathetic
Quote from: corbs83 on June 22, 2018, 12:35:23 PM
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HAMMERS CAIRNEY BID REJECTED
Fulham have rejected £20m bid from West Ham United for Tom Cairney, Sky sources understand. The midfielder was promoted to the Premier League with the Cottagers after scoring the winner in last month's Championship play-off final.
This is damn annoying, at the least it will unsettle him. I don't think we will accept any bid so not worried there BUT if he decided the grass is greener at a bigger club with higher wages it may be an opportunity he decides to take and puts in a transfer request. He got us promoted so owes us nothing.
Quote from: grandad on June 22, 2018, 09:06:55 AM
The window isn´t open yet
FIFA demands that the window is open for 12 weeks. As it has been agreed that the window will close before the season starts, the summer window has been open since 0001 on May 17. It closes @ 1700 on Thursday 9 August.
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HAMMERS CAIRNEY BID REJECTED
Fulham have rejected £20m bid from West Ham United for Tom Cairney, Sky sources understand. The midfielder was promoted to the Premier League with the Cottagers after scoring the winner in last month's Championship play-off final.
This is damn annoying, at the least it will unsettle him. I don't think we will accept any bid so not worried there BUT if he decided the grass is greener at a bigger club with higher wages it may be an opportunity he decides to take and puts in a transfer request. He got us promoted so owes us nothing.
How many times does he have to say in an interview that he's happy here and wants to captain us in the prem before people realise he's not looking to leave?? He isn't looking to leave and has no reason to either as he's getting prem football regardless and he enjoys playing for us, and this is after he's had multiple chances to leave us whilst being a championship club and yet stayed.
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12:32
HAMMERS CAIRNEY BID REJECTED
Fulham have rejected £20m bid from West Ham United for Tom Cairney, Sky sources understand. The midfielder was promoted to the Premier League with the Cottagers after scoring the winner in last month's Championship play-off final.
This is damn annoying, at the least it will unsettle him. I don't think we will accept any bid so not worried there BUT if he decided the grass is greener at a bigger club with higher wages it may be an opportunity he decides to take and puts in a transfer request. He got us promoted so owes us nothing.
How many times does he have to say in an interview that he's happy here and wants to captain us in the prem before people realise he's not looking to leave?? He isn't looking to leave and has no reason to either as he's getting prem football regardless and he enjoys playing for us, and this is after he's had multiple chances to leave us whilst being a championship club and yet stayed.
I want to believe this but money talks. Freddo has gone because West Ham offered a wage we couldn't compete with. What would you do if another job offered to double your money? Stay loyal or take the money? It's pretty simple. I believe Cairney IS happy with us and loves being captain but sometimes with huge offers it's simply common sense to take it.
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12:32
HAMMERS CAIRNEY BID REJECTED
Fulham have rejected £20m bid from West Ham United for Tom Cairney, Sky sources understand. The midfielder was promoted to the Premier League with the Cottagers after scoring the winner in last month's Championship play-off final.
This is damn annoying, at the least it will unsettle him. I don't think we will accept any bid so not worried there BUT if he decided the grass is greener at a bigger club with higher wages it may be an opportunity he decides to take and puts in a transfer request. He got us promoted so owes us nothing.
How many times does he have to say in an interview that he's happy here and wants to captain us in the prem before people realise he's not looking to leave?? He isn't looking to leave and has no reason to either as he's getting prem football regardless and he enjoys playing for us, and this is after he's had multiple chances to leave us whilst being a championship club and yet stayed.
I want to believe this but money talks. Freddo has gone because West Ham offered a wage we couldn't compete with. What would you do if another job offered to double your money? Stay loyal or take the money? It's pretty simple. I believe Cairney IS happy with us and loves being captain but sometimes with huge offers it's simply common sense to take it.
But the point is, he would've already been offered that money by West Ham previously when they wanted him in January, and he never wanted to leave then. He's now guaranteed what he wants, and that's prem football in the team he captains. He's also our highest paid player on an above average wage for the prem as it is so it's not like he's playing for peanuts either.
Why don't we just give TC a new contract then? Why would you expect your best players to play even better for the same wage? Surely for a forward thinking club there's promotion wage rises inserted into contracts which should be enough to satisfy them?
Quote from: Newry FFC on June 22, 2018, 01:13:51 PM
Why don't we just give TC a new contract then? Why would you expect your best players to play even better for the same wage? Surely for a forward thinking club there's promotion wage rises inserted into contracts which should be enough to satisfy them?
Our stated aim last season was to get promoted, yes? So last summer when TC signed that contract, he knew he was signing an extension for a club aiming to get into the premier league, paying him premier league wages to lead our charge back. He knew full well what he was signing and he was happy to do so, presumably without a clause that offered him a pay rise. So if he was happy then to sign it, why wouldn't he be now and why should the club pay him more when he's happy and still on a long contract? If we give him an extension every summer it doesn't really set the tone well for the rest of the team who could all argue they deserve a pay rise as well on similar grounds, when in actual fact they're all unproven at this level so far. the people we'll pay good wages to this summer will be the ones who have played at this level before either in the Prem or in a top foreign league, because you can command a better wage when you're a proven top level player.
By all means this time next year if we're still a Prem team and he's had a fantastic season then he's probably within his rights to ask for more, and I would suggest we paid it, but he could flop this year after being given a £20k pay rise for instance and then we'd look stupid and people would moan at the club for overpaying him.
Anyways back to actual transfer news:
https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1010134354075488256
Can't see Cairney leaving - annoyingly though if the reports about them also being interested in Wishere are accurate then you just know they'll pick him up ahead of us. Hammers really starting to grind my gears this window!
Wet spam will still struggle next season because of their ground whoever plays for them
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Anyways back to actual transfer news:
https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1010134354075488256
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Fulham make £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett.
Was on loan at Fulham last season. Southampton not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans
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Anyways back to actual transfer news:
https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1010134354075488256
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Alan Nixon
@reluctantnicko
Krul talking. Button tied in with Norwood a bit.
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https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1010134354075488256
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Someone tweeted him saying "Krul to Fulham and Button to Brighton looking likely?" . His reply was "Krul talking. Button tied in with Norwood a bit."
15:05
FULHAM TARGETT SAINTS MAN
Fulham have made a £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky sources understand.
Targett was on loan at Fulham last season, but we understand Southampton are not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans under Mark Hughes.
Quote from: corbs83 on June 22, 2018, 03:09:49 PM
15:05
FULHAM TARGETT SAINTS MAN
Fulham have made a £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky sources understand.
Targett was on loan at Fulham last season, but we understand Southampton are not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans under Mark Hughes.
If we're paying 10m for a LB, I want someone better than Targett.
As good as Cairney is, I don't see why West Ham would bid £20m when Wilshere is available for free (albeit he'll ask for signing on fee).
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15:05
FULHAM TARGETT SAINTS MAN
Fulham have made a £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky sources understand.
Targett was on loan at Fulham last season, but we understand Southampton are not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans under Mark Hughes.
If we're paying 10m for a LB, I want someone better than Targett.
Who says we have?
Transfer Marketing Rules:-
(1) to get the best price - start a rumour that you've received a credible offer already, even if you haven't
If we have - I hope that SJ is in the loop and has said that he thinks he's worth it
Given the prices that are being paid for players - £10m would be classed as bargain basement for the PL
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15:05
FULHAM TARGETT SAINTS MAN
Fulham have made a £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky sources understand.
Targett was on loan at Fulham last season, but we understand Southampton are not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans under Mark Hughes.
If we're paying 10m for a LB, I want someone better than Targett.
Why? He's a good, complete player and PL quality IMO, plus we know he 'fits' so remove that risk you always have bringing a new player in
We got £4m or £5m for Malone, an inferior player and 5 years older, and that was at last year's prices which will have inflated a little anyway. In that context £10m seems fair, especially if part of the fee is conditional, eg on an England call-up
I don't think malone was inferior to targett
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15:05
FULHAM TARGETT SAINTS MAN
Fulham have made a £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky sources understand.
Targett was on loan at Fulham last season, but we understand Southampton are not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans under Mark Hughes.
If we're paying 10m for a LB, I want someone better than Targett.
Why? He's a good, complete player and PL quality IMO, plus we know he 'fits' so remove that risk you always have bringing a new player in
We got £4m or £5m for Malone, an inferior player and 5 years older, and that was at last year's prices which will have inflated a little anyway. In that context £10m seems fair, especially if part of the fee is conditional, eg on an England call-up
I don't think malone was inferior to targett
He definitely was, Targett crosses much more accurate. Both very good for us though.
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15:05
FULHAM TARGETT SAINTS MAN
Fulham have made a £10m bid for Southampton's Matt Targett, Sky sources understand.
Targett was on loan at Fulham last season, but we understand Southampton are not interested in selling and see him as part of their future plans under Mark Hughes.
If we're paying 10m for a LB, I want someone better than Targett.
Why? He's a good, complete player and PL quality IMO, plus we know he 'fits' so remove that risk you always have bringing a new player in
We got £4m or £5m for Malone, an inferior player and 5 years older, and that was at last year's prices which will have inflated a little anyway. In that context £10m seems fair, especially if part of the fee is conditional, eg on an England call-up
I don't think malone was inferior to targett
Got to disagree on that one.
Impressed with Tadic.
Ajax trying to sign him but Ithink he would be good for us.
Has Prem experience and with him on the right and Sess on the left with Mitro in the middle
would be a good front line.
Tadic,would work with the stats department criteria wise as well.
As far as transfers go I think Fulham are perceived by other clubs as knowing something they don't. We play good football and a percentage of players respond to their treatment here. Mitrovic and Targett are good examples of this. One feels loved and responds by scoring goals and loves us back. The other slips into Ryan's boots seamlessly and makes you think he's been here since he was ten. So if Fulham are after your man maybe he's better than you think. You and the player in question then have a bit of a moment when you and he thinks he's undervalued and so might other clubs. I wish Ryan Fredricks well but have a sneaky feeling he's not going to be as good or as valued by Hammers fans as he was with us. As much as big Clubs are hampered by the fact other Clubs think they have pots of money I think we may be hampered by having an incredibly wealthy owner and a bit of nounce.
Wiltshire may follow the money but there's a chance he'll see us as an opportunity to show what he has and get the chance to move on to somewhere far better than say West Ham.
West spam,they are a basketcase of a club on and off the field and no bigger than Fulham recent history wise.how long there new coach lasts is dependent on there start to the season,can't help feeling as always with them there 5minutes from a crisis through out the season.
Our training ground must be a big draw to potential signings.Very significant with regard being close to London but in a leafy suburb.What more could you ask for?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on June 22, 2018, 11:12:20 PM
Our training ground must be a big draw to potential signings.Very significant with regard being close to London but in a leafy suburb.What more could you ask for?
Money.
But in seriousness to your comment the club being in west London and training ground barely outside west London is a big draw.
Having similar financial clout but being outside London it will be tougher to sign players I agree
Quote from: hovewhite on June 22, 2018, 09:18:53 PM
West spam,they are a basketcase of a club on and off the field and no bigger than Fulham recent history wise.how long there new coach lasts is dependent on there start to the season,can't help feeling as always with them there 5minutes from a crisis through out the season.
Not much bigger than us?? Averaged 56,000 last season & have a fan base that dwarves ours. Been a shambles for the last couple of seasons but showing some intent & splashing some cash which is not surprising when you get given a 60k stadium for f*** all
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Quote from: hovewhite on June 22, 2018, 09:18:53 PM
West spam,they are a basketcase of a club on and off the field and no bigger than Fulham recent history wise.how long there new coach lasts is dependent on there start to the season,can't help feeling as always with them there 5minutes from a crisis through out the season.
Not much bigger than us?? Averaged 56,000 last season & have a fan base that dwarves ours. Been a shambles for the last couple of seasons but showing some intent & splashing some cash which is not surprising when you get given a 60k stadium for f*** all
my piont being on the pitch they have struggled ,played crap football and not done anything and rarely threatened to do anything so achieved no more than us.
Gate wise yes! nothing else.
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
How much would you pay for Mitro. If Newcastle demanded £30M and say West Ham said they would pay £30M would you pay it if Mitro said he wanted us over them ?
I honestly think I would..., with the crazy inflated prices, as long as he continued as he has been I don't think we would lose out as the asset would only grow in value. Get him on a long contract with a buy out clause should we get relegated or needed to reduce the wage bill etc.
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 23, 2018, 10:32:32 AM
How much would you pay for Mitro. If Newcastle demanded £30M and say West Ham said they would pay £30M would you pay it if Mitro said he wanted us over them ?
I honestly think I would..., with the crazy inflated prices, as long as he continued as he has been I don't think we would lose out as the asset would only grow in value. Get him on a long contract with a buy out clause should we get relegated or needed to reduce the wage bill etc.
Personally No West Ham can offer whatever they like.At the end of the day it's up to the player.They can offer him stupid money but will it make him a happy Hammer
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 23, 2018, 10:32:32 AM
How much would you pay for Mitro. If Newcastle demanded £30M and say West Ham said they would pay £30M would you pay it if Mitro said he wanted us over them ?
I honestly think I would..., with the crazy inflated prices, as long as he continued as he has been I don't think we would lose out as the asset would only grow in value. Get him on a long contract with a buy out clause should we get relegated or needed to reduce the wage bill etc.
Newcastle won't get more than 20 for Mitrovic. He's surplus to requirements there, and he's not exactly been a raging success in the Prem. Once you go above 20 mill, you're talking a league above in-terms of Strikers. Think all of this World Cup talk has been overblown massively in relation to him. Especially considering barring a miracle (i.e. Serbia beating Brazil) they'll be out of the tournament this time next week.
I think 25 is a fair price for Mitrovic. If our budget is 70m would I want 25 spent on Mitrovic? Absolutely
Get mitro in whatever,the same with targett as major parts of the team.
Regarding Micro we could include a lot of add ons.Staying up and amount of goals he scores etc.If his goals keep us up next season then maybe 25 Million no more than that in my opinion
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I think 25 is a fair price for Mitrovic. If our budget is 70m would I want 25 spent on Mitrovic? Absolutely
The 3 promoted teams last season (Newcastle, Huddersfield, and Brighton) didn't have a budget over 60m.
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I think 25 is a fair price for Mitrovic. If our budget is 70m would I want 25 spent on Mitrovic? Absolutely
The 3 promoted teams last season (Newcastle, Huddersfield, and Brighton) didn't have a budget over 60m.
they all had pretty big squads though didn't they? We only have 8 first teamers and lost half of ou bench too
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I think 25 is a fair price for Mitrovic. If our budget is 70m would I want 25 spent on Mitrovic? Absolutely
The 3 promoted teams last season (Newcastle, Huddersfield, and Brighton) didn't have a budget over 60m.
they all had pretty big squads though didn't they? We only have 8 first teamers and lost half of ou bench too
Huddersfield's squad is worse than Wolves right now. Newcastle's squad is ok but they have Benitez. Brighton spent pretty well.
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I think 25 is a fair price for Mitrovic. If our budget is 70m would I want 25 spent on Mitrovic? Absolutely
The 3 promoted teams last season (Newcastle, Huddersfield, and Brighton) didn't have a budget over 60m.
Newcastle's squad under any other Manager would go down, and Brighton didn't have to add too many to their team. Think the only players who started regularly for them that weren't already with them were Groß, Izqueirdo, Ryan and Propper.
Plus you have to take into account the Neymar deal happening when it did in relation to their business and the fact it's inflated the market further. I think we'll spend between 60 and 80mill.
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Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
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Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
They are putting a new coat of paint on the dressing room walls.
If your wondering why it takes so long to get a deal over the line - this explains the Mitro situation
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-drive-hard-bargain-aleksandar-14820743
Newcastle United are in no hurry to sell Aleksandar Mitrovic with club bosses hopeful of extracting maximum value if Rafa Benitez still wants to sell.
The Magpies – who have yet to make any serious efforts at bringing players in this summer – are prepared to drive a hard bargain having found themselves quoted big prices when enquiries have been made.
Benitez loaned the Serbia striker last season because he didn't feel he was compatible with the way he wants Newcastle to play. Privately he was prepared to entertain offers for the striker last summer but Newcastle did not want to sell at a loss.
This close season there will be no chance of that with United putting a £20million price on his head BEFORE the World Cup. He scored for his country in their 2-1 defeat against Switzerland and is likely to lead the line against Brazil next week.
That price could yet rise and Newcastle know that Fulham, Crystal Palace and Wolves are all interested – with further interest from Germany in the 23-year-old.
He is seen as the key man to funding Benitez's other deals with the Spaniard unlikely to perform a U-turn unless he feels there is no chance of bringing in a replacement.
Fulham wanted to tie up a quick deal for less than that but Newcastle preferred to wait and there will be further conversations when Benitez brings the players back for pre-season on July 2 – not that Mitrovic will be expected to join up with the squad by then, even if Serbia are knocked out of the tournament.
Many supporters will be asking if there is any chance of a return to Newcastle given his red-hot form for United but there is little sign of that. Benitez wants to use any money generated by sales to fund the addition of another striker, a number ten and – crucially – the signing of Chelsea playmaker Kenedy.
@Roberty
I think it is a little disingenuous to use one press report to cover the distinct lack of (ambitious) urgency which our recruitment team is getting a reputation for, whether that criticism is good, bad, or indifferent to the universal balance of such things. Work 'behind the scenes' needs to be backed up by actions, even if those actions are simply to generate misleading stories about who is tracking whom in the marketplace as a means of looking busy. In reality our targets should have been identified ages ago with plan A in place in case of promotion, and plan B in place if we had failed. I'd like to say I have confidence in the recruitment team at FFC but I'd be lying if I said that. I do have confidence in our coaching team because I have seen the proof of its quality - that is the big difference between the two important components of a successful transfer window.
@toshes mate
1. The report is in a Newcastle local paper and presumably they have the same close relationship as getwestlondon do with us
2. By action - I take that to mean "leaks to the press" - that has never been the Fulham way
3. I read - I think in FST minutes - that Fulham did have a plan for both eventualities
4. You're perfectly entitled to have no confidence in the recruitment team
personal opinion
Having spent 4 season trying to get out of the Championship and seen how difficult it is - I would be surprised - now that the owner has recovered the value of his investment - if he would not invest "whatever it takes" in both time and money - to make sure we remain in the PL for at least one season.
As far as new signing are concerned - that one I'm most anxious to hear about is that SJ has signed a new contract and will be with us for the next season because it cannot have gone unnoticed that the last time he guided a club to the PL he promptly left because their sense of direction did not coincide with his.
"According to The Mirror, Newcastle United striker Aleksandar Mitrovic is specifically pursuing a move to Fulham – but they have yet to meet the Magpies' asking price."
Fingers crossed.
Quote from: Roberty on June 24, 2018, 08:17:53 AM
3. I read - I think in FST minutes - that Fulham did have a plan for both eventualities
Fulham had two schedules in operation according to those minutes - a plan guided by timing for automatic promotion and an alternative for the play off extension. I don't think there was a plan for failure which was what I was referring to. 'Leaks' are seldom attributable to clubs directly but to inferences given in questioning of officials - words used, eye contact, body language etc depending on type of contact. Hence press releases are to be taken with a pinch of salt until clubs make official announcements. My own opinion on matters transfer related is that SJ's signature on a new contract may be crucial to getting things moving on all other fronts since he has been rock solid indelivery throughout.
Fulham want get Targett according to Talkadoodle as we already know,so they will up their interest in Joe Bryan,and highly rated Aberdeen young centre back Scott McKenna also on their agenda.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 24, 2018, 09:00:35 AM
Fulham want get Targett according to Talkadoodle as we already know,so they will up their interest in Joe Bryan,and highly rated Aberdeen young centre back Scott McKenna also on their agenda.
I'd be tempted to see what Luke shaw is going for, he has the potential and is only 22. Little bit of coaching and a big arm round his shoulder
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Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
They are putting a new coat of paint on the dressing room walls.
And a new Bubblegum machine.😵
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Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
If everyone knew exactly what was being done behind the scenes, it wouldn't be behind the scenes, would it?
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Fulham want get Targett according to Talkadoodle as we already know,so they will up their interest in Joe Bryan,and highly rated Aberdeen young centre back Scott McKenna also on their agenda.
I'd be tempted to see what Luke shaw is going for, he has the potential and is only 22. Little bit of coaching and a big arm round his shoulder
Now your talking, coming to us as a regular could also resurrect his International career, he is top draw quality.
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Quote from: Twig on June 24, 2018, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
They are putting a new coat of paint on the dressing room walls.
And a new Bubblegum machine.😵
It's a new Viagra machine, it just tastes like Bubblegum.
http://www.nufcblog.com/2018/06/24/report-mitrovic-adamant-his-move-to-fulham-already-agreed/
Report – Mitrovic Adamant His Move To Fulham Already Agreed
The Mirror on their live blog are reporting that Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic says that a deal to transfer him to Fulham this summer has already been agreed.
The report says the Serbian is adamant a deal has already been agreed, but Fulham and Newcastle have not agreed on a fee yet with Newcastle wanting to wait after the World Cup to sell Mitro.
And the striker has played well for Serbia in their two games so far, and he has one of the two goals Serbia have scored.
Newcastle want at least £20M for the striker, but Fulham have not yet matched that figure.
Here's some of the Mirror report:
Aleksandar Mitrovic is on a collision course with Newcastle United.
The Serbian striker is adamant that a deal is struck with Fulham – only the Cottagers have not yet met Rafa Benitez's valuation.
Mitrovic shone under Slavisa Jokanovic and his 12 goals played a major part in them winning promotion.
Newcastle wanted £20M for the striker but so far that figure has not been met.
It seems almost a certainty that Newcastle will sell Mitrovic but it may not be to Fulham if they cannot come up with the £20M Rafa wants to help fund some of the incoming transfers this summer.
The notion there could be some kind of a blow-up at Newcastle with Mitrovic and the management is a little far-fetched.
That should not happen, but once the World Cup is over then Newcastle will expect to get offers in for the striker who has looked good up front for Serbia at the World Cup.
With Serbia losing 2-1 to Switzerland in their last game Serbia could be eliminated at the group stage along with Costa Rica.
Their final game is against group leaders Brazil.
It's time Fulham peeled the barbwire off their fat wallet, and get this man back in a Fulham kit, before another club hijacks the deal. 💷💷💰💰
I said before we are in the driving seat with Mitro he wants to come here, Newcastle can except a bid of 25m from somewhere else but if the player doesn't agree terms he doesn't go. Fulham and Mitro know this and its a waiting game for Newcastle to buckle. Newcastle need the funds for transfer we know this. Newcastle need to sell to buy
Do you think Newcastle will agree a deal pre- the Serbia/Brazil game?
Looks increasingly likely Serbia are going out... chances are Mitro won't get a sniff in the Brazil game... has his value peaked?
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
Do you think Newcastle will agree a deal pre- the Serbia/Brazil game?
Looks increasingly likely Serbia are going out... chances are Mitro won't get a sniff in the Brazil game... has his value peaked?
Don't know about not getting a sniff, Brazil haven't been that great in my book,not one outstanding team have I seen yet except maybe Belgium.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 24, 2018, 10:29:25 AM
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
Do you think Newcastle will agree a deal pre- the Serbia/Brazil game?
Looks increasingly likely Serbia are going out... chances are Mitro won't get a sniff in the Brazil game... has his value peaked?
Don't know about not getting a sniff, Brazil haven't been that great in my book,not one outstanding team have I seen yet except maybe Belgium.
Belgium have been up against arguably the worst two teams in the tournament so far though.
A deal agreed, but without agreement on the price is a deal not agreed.
I have been wondering whether there was an agreement that Fulham have an option to buy, at an agreed price, on 1 July and that the only thing that could prevent us exercising it is a significant injury to the player. Probably not, but just possibly so.
Mitrovic knows he's going to look as good as he can in our system. That must be a big draw card.
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Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
Do you think Newcastle will agree a deal pre- the Serbia/Brazil game?
Looks increasingly likely Serbia are going out... chances are Mitro won't get a sniff in the Brazil game... has his value peaked?
Don't know about not getting a sniff, Brazil haven't been that great in my book,not one outstanding team have I seen yet except maybe Belgium.
Belgium have been up against arguably the worst two teams in the tournament so far though.
Tunisia were not that bad and Belgium still had their way with them. They look like good things to win the whole thing to me.
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As far as new signing are concerned - that one I'm most anxious to hear about is that SJ has signed a new contract and will be with us for the next season because it cannot have gone unnoticed that the last time he guided a club to the PL he promptly left because their sense of direction did not coincide with his.
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SJ left Watford because he didn't feel the owner wanted him or had the same desire to improve the team. Which in my book is a pretty good reason to quit. Add to that, the fact he walked away from the tag "Premiership manager."
I think it's safe to assume he's pretty driven and has ample belief in himself and his abilities. Which can't be easy to manage but I think Mr Khan is up to the task. I'm sure like you and me he's well aware of Slavisa's massive contribution to getting Fulham in the Premiership.
Apparently Galatasaray made official 25.000.000e bid for A.Mitrovic, found info in reliable SER sport webnews portal, they were rarely wrong, however it says in the text that Mitrovic accepting Galatasaray transfer is very unlikely as he already said earlier he has no intentions of playing in Turkey atm when loan offers were made and interest in him was much lower. Even if true (it probably is) and Mitro rejects that move, could it fire up Newcastle's greed in asking price for Mitrovic? oO
Mike Ashley is not particularly famous by being a modest and reasonable guy and Benitez wants money to buy at least 3 more Joselus.
Quote from: BlackWhiteArmy on June 24, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
Apparently Galatasaray made official 25.000.000e bid for A.Mitrovic, found info in reliable SER sport webnews portal, they were rarely wrong, however it says in the text that Mitrovic accepting Galatasaray transfer is very unlikely as he already said earlier he has no intentions of playing in Turkey atm when loan offers were made and interest in him was much lower. Even if true (it probably is) and Mitro rejects that move, could it fire up Newcastle's greed in asking price for Mitrovic? oO
Mike Ashley is not particularly famous by being a modest and reasonable guy and Benitez wants money to buy at least 3 more Joselus.
€25 million is about £22 million. Not a huge bid given the kinds of figures that have been stated before.
Burnley rumoured to be interested in Flint now
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Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
If everyone knew exactly what was being done behind the scenes, it wouldn't be behind the scenes, would it?
Which is why I am asking MrFFC how he can make such a categorical assertion.
Quote from: Twig on June 24, 2018, 01:59:12 PM
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Quote from: Twig on June 24, 2018, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
If everyone knew exactly what was being done behind the scenes, it wouldn't be behind the scenes, would it?
Which is why I am asking MrFFC how he can make such a categorical assertion.
I think it's a lot safer of assumption to think we're working on making deals happen than thinking we'll start against Palace with a team of Bettinelli; Christie, Djalo, Ream, Sessegnon; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Fonte, Ayite.
Well TC is on holiday with Jack Grealish based on his Instagram account, who knows if he's doing a sales pitch??
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 24, 2018, 03:00:00 PM
Well TC is on holiday with Jack Grealish based on his Instagram account, who knows if he's doing a sales pitch??
Strange couple of players to holiday together seeing as they've never played with eachother.
Quote from: Tabby on June 24, 2018, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 24, 2018, 03:00:00 PM
Well TC is on holiday with Jack Grealish based on his Instagram account, who knows if he's doing a sales pitch??
I'd be a fan of Grealish if he was in a Fulham jersey. Until that day he's still a villian
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Quote from: MrFFC on June 23, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Work is being done behind the scenes I am confident that we will be in a good place come Crystal Palace
Exactly what is being done behind the scenes?
If everyone knew exactly what was being done behind the scenes, it wouldn't be behind the scenes, would it?
Which is why I am asking MrFFC how he can make such a categorical assertion.
I think it's a lot safer of assumption to think we're working on making deals happen than thinking we'll start against Palace with a team of Bettinelli; Christie, Djalo, Ream, Sessegnon; McDonald, Cairney, Johansen; AK47, Fonte, Ayite.
If that is the team that starts against Palace , add Odoi and you have the team that will have to soldier on until January.
I think the media rate Grealish far higher than the managers. Would think it's extremely unlikely he would join us.
https://turkish-football.com/everton-offer-e13-2m-for-croatia-international-but-will-have-to-increase-bid-to-e18m-to-prize-away-besiktas-defender-domagoj-vida/
Everton Offer €13.2m For Croatia International But Will Have To Increase Bid To €18m To Prize Away Star Defender, Fulham & West Ham Also In Race
Besiktas defender Domagoj Vida has been closely linked with a move to the Premier League.
Turkish-Football reported Everton interest in the 29-year-old centre-back last week.
Since then a lot has changed.
Fanatik then went onto report that the Toffees made a €13.2 million offer for the centre-back.
Fotomac are now reporting that Besiktas have increased their valuation to €18 million.
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Per the source, West Ham and Fulham are also in the race for the powerful defender.
The Istanbul based outfit increased their asking price for Vida after an impressive run of form in the World Cup.
The report claims that Besiktas will reject all offers that do not match their new price tag.
Vida started in the victories over Argentina and Nigeria, helping his side keep a clean sheet in both games.
The Black Eagles signed Vida on a free transfer from Dynamo Kiev in January but are prepared to sell the centre-back for the right price.
Vida has another four-years remaining on his Besiktas contract but has not ruled out a summer exit.
"All I am focused on right now is the World Cup, I will make a decision regarding my future one the tournament is over. After Russia I will take a look at the offers," Vida was quoted as saying by Turkish-Football.
Vida has two goals in 61 international caps for the Croatia national side.
Croatia have already booked a place in the World Cup Last 16.
Quote from: Tabby on June 24, 2018, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 24, 2018, 03:00:00 PM
Well TC is on holiday with Jack Grealish based on his Instagram account, who knows if he's doing a sales pitch??
Strange couple of players to holiday together seeing as they've never played with eachother.
I'm sure that TC's girlfriend won't let them play with each other whilst on holiday!
On the plus side with Columbia pumping Poland, Krychowiak will be going home early. If we're serious about signing him it'll speed the process up a bit
According to Fotballleagueworld, we are looking at signing Flint for £8 million and Grealish for £15 million. Wouldn't put too much weight into this as I doubt Villa would accept £15 million for their golden goose. £8 million for Flint sounds like what he'll go for though, judging by the overall interest.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/premier-league-team-chasing-8m-bristol-city-man-and-15m-aston-villa-raid/
Quote from: Tabby on June 25, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
According to Fotballleagueworld, we are looking at signing Flint for £8 million and Grealish for £15 million. Wouldn't put too much weight into this as I doubt Villa would accept £15 million for their golden goose. £8 million for Flint sounds like what he'll go for though, judging by the overall interest.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/premier-league-team-chasing-8m-bristol-city-man-and-15m-aston-villa-raid/
When the HMRC knock on the door and say "give us the money" - he will go for whatever they can get
Sadly for Villa everyone knows that they are near to bust, so no one is going to be putting their hands too deep into their pockets
Quote from: Roberty on June 25, 2018, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 25, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
According to Fotballleagueworld, we are looking at signing Flint for £8 million and Grealish for £15 million. Wouldn't put too much weight into this as I doubt Villa would accept £15 million for their golden goose. £8 million for Flint sounds like what he'll go for though, judging by the overall interest.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/premier-league-team-chasing-8m-bristol-city-man-and-15m-aston-villa-raid/
When the HMRC knock on the door and say "give us the money" - he will go for whatever they can get
Sadly for Villa everyone knows that they are near to bust, so no one is going to be putting their hands too deep into their pockets
And we still have £6m in the bank there from Mc. Cormack.
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-20m-striker-makes-newcastle-threat-wants-fulham-move
Flint: decent Ch. CB. We have (I trust) moved on from the days of sticking a lamp-post in that position, otherwise we could have stuck with Dan Burn, another decent Ch. CB who didn't help our preferred style of play.
Grealish: Very talented, but would only be of immediate use to us if we didn't have Tom Cairney. Which we do (don't we?). I doubt that he would be prepared to wait around until he became better than Tom.
Fortunately 'footballleagueworld' is about as far down the garbage production line as you can get (If you click the link you go straight to some advert.)
Grealish would be competition for Johansen spot. Talented player. I personally think there is better out there than Flint but at least he will help in the box for set pieces which could be important next season as we are a very small side. That's if either of these 2 are genuine targets for Fulham
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https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-20m-striker-makes-newcastle-threat-wants-fulham-move
I can remember Peter Crouch doing much the same when he moved from Portsmouth to Spuds - we were supposed to have been the high bidder - but Robot Man dug his heels in because he wanted to join up with Harry - so they had to sell him to Spuds
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According to Fotballleagueworld, we are looking at signing Flint for £8 million and Grealish for £15 million. Wouldn't put too much weight into this as I doubt Villa would accept £15 million for their golden goose. £8 million for Flint sounds like what he'll go for though, judging by the overall interest.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/premier-league-team-chasing-8m-bristol-city-man-and-15m-aston-villa-raid/
When the HMRC knock on the door and say "give us the money" - he will go for whatever they can get
Sadly for Villa everyone knows that they are near to bust, so no one is going to be putting their hands too deep into their pockets
And we still have £6m in the bank there from Mc. Cormack.
The £6m could work against us. If they sell to us we would take that into account, if they sell elsewhere the whole fee could go to HMRC.
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Quote from: Holders on June 25, 2018, 01:35:08 PM
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Quote from: Tabby on June 25, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
According to Fotballleagueworld, we are looking at signing Flint for £8 million and Grealish for £15 million. Wouldn't put too much weight into this as I doubt Villa would accept £15 million for their golden goose. £8 million for Flint sounds like what he'll go for though, judging by the overall interest.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/premier-league-team-chasing-8m-bristol-city-man-and-15m-aston-villa-raid/
When the HMRC knock on the door and say "give us the money" - he will go for whatever they can get
Sadly for Villa everyone knows that they are near to bust, so no one is going to be putting their hands too deep into their pockets
And we still have £6m in the bank there from Mc. Cormack.
The £6m could work against us. If they sell to us we would take that into account, if they sell elsewhere the whole fee could go to HMRC.
Yes, but Villa might prefer that option as it eliminates debt without having to go to HMRC.
Quote from: Holders on June 25, 2018, 03:15:25 PM
Yes, but Villa might prefer that option as it eliminates debt without having to go to HMRC.
I seem to think that debt to other clubs comes before HMRC can have a nibble
Think you may be wrong but stand to be corrected.
My understanding is that tax deducted from player salaries take priority, then the debts owed to other clubs. Tax on profits due to HMRC are then included with all other creditors.
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Think you may be wrong but stand to be corrected.
My understanding is that tax deducted from player salaries take priority, then the debts owed to other clubs. Tax on profits due to HMRC are then included with all other creditors.
I've no idea of your level of knowledge but the rule I am referring to is the football creditors rule. In fairness I've never read anything about the treatment of different types of tax. However the basic principle of the rule is that other football clubs should be paid and privileged ahead of all other creditors including HMRC. It would be odd if they deviated from that basic principle just for a particular type of tax debt
As I said i think it's all highly irrelevant. A business worth £100m+ and owned by a Chinese billionaire Isn't going bust because it owes £5m to HMRC
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Agree probably irrelevant.
The reason for HMRC come first is that the money's due are actually deductions from player salaries they have already been paid and when later paid to HMRC are credited to the individual players tax accounts. The money belongs to the players and not the club.
Fulham rumoured to be one of several clubs that are showing interest in Clément Grenier, 27, who seems to have got his career back on track at Guingamp. €3m fee.
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Article/Clement-grenier-guingamp-un-joueur-convoite/915503
Am I misremembering or were we in for Grenier a couple of years back after we lost Murphy?
Being floated in a couple spots now that NUFC want 30 million for Mitro. Ashley is such a twit. I'd say anything over 20 and we need to look elsewhere, unfortunately.
Quote from: FulhamPHX on June 25, 2018, 06:15:19 PM
Being floated in a couple spots now that NUFC want 30 million for Mitro. Ashley is such a twit. I'd say anything over 20 and we need to look elsewhere, unfortunately.
No one will pay £30 mil for Mitro
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Quote from: FulhamPHX on June 25, 2018, 06:15:19 PM
Being floated in a couple spots now that NUFC want 30 million for Mitro. Ashley is such a twit. I'd say anything over 20 and we need to look elsewhere, unfortunately.
No one will pay £30 mil for Mitro
They are trying to eek out closer to £25m if this move is true.
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Being floated in a couple spots now that NUFC want 30 million for Mitro. Ashley is such a twit. I'd say anything over 20 and we need to look elsewhere, unfortunately.
No one will pay £30 mil for Mitro
They are trying to eek out closer to £25m if this move is true.
Not sure if he is even worth £25 mil unless its in installments that include the extra £5 mil if we win the Prem :005:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6622051/fulham-transfer-news-bosnia-edis-smajic/
Quote from: Sir Craven on June 25, 2018, 11:34:21 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6622051/fulham-transfer-news-bosnia-edis-smajic/
He'd be cheap if nothing else if there is anything to this.
https://youtu.be/rwLUhvHgBnA
TC knee slides
https://www.fck.dk/en/news/fc-copenhagen-sign-jesse-joronen
Not really silly season news, but Jesse Joronen, the guy thrown in and probably who's Fulham careeer was wrecked most by Felix is signing for FC Copenhagen and possible Europa League football, after a decent season at Horsens, presumably challenging Stephane Anderson for the #1 jersey with Robin Olsen linked to Liverpool among others.
I know this will be a bit controversial, however I was thinking a combination of Sess and Adomah could be an exciting prospect. It could be that Sess would settle into the Premier League better as a wing back and I can see him working brilliantly down the left with Adomah. Grealish and Adomah were Villas best players last season and they would both make great additions. The price would however probably be too high.
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 26, 2018, 08:31:27 AM
I know this will be a bit controversial, however I was thinking a combination of Sess and Adomah could be an exciting prospect. It could be that Sess would settle into the Premier League better as a wing back and I can see him working brilliantly down the left with Adomah. Grealish and Adomah were Villas best players last season and they would both make great additions. The price would however probably be too high.
I think we want Sess as close to the opposition box as possible, so wing back not best use of him.
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Quote from: FulhamStu on June 26, 2018, 08:31:27 AM
I know this will be a bit controversial, however I was thinking a combination of Sess and Adomah could be an exciting prospect. It could be that Sess would settle into the Premier League better as a wing back and I can see him working brilliantly down the left with Adomah. Grealish and Adomah were Villas best players last season and they would both make great additions. The price would however probably be too high.
I think we want Sess as close to the opposition box as possible, so wing back not best use of him.
Totally agree. We just need to ensure we have the right full back behind him to link with him.
Danny ings to leave Liverpool. No idea of his worth, approximately 8m according to Transfermarket.com but I think he'd be worth a contract. Although he must have inflated wages on his current contract.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2018, 12:24:34 PM
Danny ings to leave Liverpool. No idea of his worth, approximately 8m according to Transfermarket.com but I think he'd be worth a contract. Although he must have inflated wages on his current contract.
If you could get a fully fit Ings then it would be worth it but he is so injury prone that I don't think he'd pass our famous medical. Would be a great player if fit though.
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Danny ings to leave Liverpool. No idea of his worth, approximately 8m according to Transfermarket.com but I think he'd be worth a contract. Although he must have inflated wages on his current contract.
If you could get a fully fit Ings then it would be worth it but he is so injury prone that I don't think he'd pass our famous medical. Would be a great player if fit though.
A hell of a striker for Burnley when he was there and would be worth a punt.
We shouldn't be "punting" on anyone. All transfers should be properly assessed; particularly if someone's on high wages they should be used, not just a squad-filler. Also, some players will have an expectation of being played.
Ings is 25 - so fits the age profile - if he's fit again - he and Mitro - will frighten a lot of defenders
RE Ings.Sign him up.Proven goalscorer.Dont think he would be too expensive either.
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
Quote from: Roberty on June 26, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
Didn't really seem like the kind of defender that Slav fancies to be frank. Does seem to fit the mould of a Pulis team though.
I would have liked Flint as always have liked a dominant no 5. Alongside Mitro we would be a real threat at set pieces. Slavisa is however a slightly more sophisticated coach than one i would probably make 😜
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Quote from: Roberty on June 26, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
Didn't really seem like the kind of defender that Slav fancies to be frank. Does seem to fit the mould of a Pulis team though.
agreed
Boro going for broke again this season with the signings, must be banking on Traore going for big bucks
Quote from: Roberty on June 26, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
It could also mean that at the moment we are just putting our toe in the water to test the market before committing serious money to real bids. A sensible approach but just hope we are not missing out on players we really need.
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Quote from: Roberty on June 26, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
Didn't really seem like the kind of defender that Slav fancies to be frank. Does seem to fit the mould of a Pulis team though.
agreed
I totally agree with this. However I think this position may prove to be our biggest issue going forward. To my mind we need a commanding, ball playing centre half just as much as we need a centre forward. This type of centre half is very , very rare and will cost serious money. Alfie Mawson fits the bill but would we be prepared to make such an investment ? I'm not just for " splashing the cash " but the spine of this team will be vital for the challenges ahead. Other young candidates might be available from foreign parts but would surely be a risky bet for their first year in the Premier League ( and ours for some time )
Quote from: ollienixs on June 26, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
Boro going for broke again this season with the signings, must be banking on Traore going for big bucks
It is a very dangerous strategy - as with Grealish & Mitro - if everyone knows the club has to sell - no one is going to pay top dollar
You have to laugh... sloppy journalism at it's best. :005: Percentages are on our side methinks
Today, it can be said that Clément Grenier has perfectly succeeded his bet. He had decided to leave Olympique Lyonnais and lower his salary to sign at Guingamp . His goal was to have time to play in the eye of a club more upscale.
Today, it's all good for him because seven clubs would make him look sweet. According to L'Equipe , these are Rennes, Fenerbahce, Fulham, Villarreal, Newcastle, Fulham and AC Milan.
Regarding his future, he decided to take his time so as not to relive the same experience as at AS Roma.
£12m bid for Wolves Ivan Cavaliero rejected according to SKY.
Huddersfield previously reported to be after him(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180626/d101d5c8601f1205abe0628d805b70dc.jpg)
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Considering he tweeted less than a week ago that he was looking forward to starting the season with Wolves, I'd say it's a non-runner.
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Quote from: Roberty on June 26, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
Didn't really seem like the kind of defender that Slav fancies to be frank. Does seem to fit the mould of a Pulis team though.
agreed
I totally agree with this. However I think this position may prove to be our biggest issue going forward. To my mind we need a commanding, ball playing centre half just as much as we need a centre forward. This type of centre half is very , very rare and will cost serious money. Alfie Mawson fits the bill but would we be prepared to make such an investment ? I'm not just for " splashing the cash " but the spine of this team will be vital for the challenges ahead. Other young candidates might be available from foreign parts but would surely be a risky bet for their first year in the Premier League ( and ours for some time )
Mawson probably going to Wolves, prepared to pay £20m + & offering him big money. He wants to come back to London though
Ivan Cavaleiro would be a brilliant signing though, Top 5 wingers in Championship last season easily. Champions league experience and works hard too.
Don't think he'd leave Wolves after just going up with them.
Should Fulham compete with Nottingham Forest for West Ham's Byram?
Sam Byram is going to be sent away on loan by West Ham United with the right-back not in new manager Manuel Pellegrini's first team plans, according to the Sun. Nottingham Forest appears to be Byram's most likely destination, with their boss Aitor Karanka keen to add an experienced full-back to his squad and views a loan deal as an attractive prospect.
The Hammers do not need the 24-year-old because they already have two other options on the right side of defence following the signing of Ryan Fredericks from Fulham on a free transfer. Pablo Zabaleta was the number one choice in the role last season and Fredericks will now be competing with the Argentine under Pellegrini. This has left the Whites with a gap in their own squad so should they perhaps consider Byram themselves - particularly as a backup option?
The loss of Fredericks hasn't hit them as hard as it could have done with Cyrus Christie already at Craven Cottage and Christie is likely to be first choice in 2018/19. Yet Byram could act as a more than capable deputy and perhaps could be given a lease of life under Slavisa Jokanovic having seen his career stall somewhat following a 2016 switch from Leeds United to East London.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/26/should-fulham-compete-with-nottingham-forest-for-west-hams-byram/page/1/
Woodrow to Barnsley rumoured ,and Aberdeen trying to resign Jack Grimmer..
I am guessing this is positioning to let Newcastle know Mitro isn't the only option http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/11417807/wolves-reject-ivan-cavaleiro-bid-by-fulham
Quote from: wonderfulthingcali on June 27, 2018, 03:36:32 AM
I am guessing this is positioning to let Newcastle know Mitro isn't the only option http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/11417807/wolves-reject-ivan-cavaleiro-bid-by-fulham
I don't think Cavaleiro would be an alternative as he's a winger more than a Striker, this hopefully would be additional to Mitrovic.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2018, 06:59:11 PM
Ivan Cavaleiro would be a brilliant signing though, Top 5 wingers in Championship last season easily. Champions league experience and works hard too.
He is a very good winger no doubt, however is he going to be a vast improvement on Ayite or Kebano? His goal scoring record is worse than Ayite - although he is 4 years his junior.
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Quote from: @jolslover on June 26, 2018, 06:59:11 PM
Ivan Cavaleiro would be a brilliant signing though, Top 5 wingers in Championship last season easily. Champions league experience and works hard too.
He is a very good winger no doubt, however is he going to be a vast improvement on Ayite or Kebano? His goal scoring record is worse than Ayite - although he is 4 years his junior.
To be fair last season Cavaleiro goal every 286 mins Ayite goal every 415 mins. I would say he is better than both of them.
As Mince said I don't think he will leave Wolves though, One of their best players last year
Great news if true!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/midfield-stars-ryan-sessegnon-and-tom-cairney-commit-to-staying-at-fulham-dqdx7l9kd
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Quote from: Statto on June 26, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
Quote from: Tabby on June 26, 2018, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: Roberty on June 26, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
I presume this means that we have someone else lined up and don't want to sign him
Sky Sources understand defender Aden Flint currently undergoing a medical at Middlesbrough with a fee agreed with Bristol City. SSN are unsure how much exactly, but is understood to be around £7m.
Didn't really seem like the kind of defender that Slav fancies to be frank. Does seem to fit the mould of a Pulis team though.
agreed
I totally agree with this. However I think this position may prove to be our biggest issue going forward. To my mind we need a commanding, ball playing centre half just as much as we need a centre forward. This type of centre half is very , very rare and will cost serious money. Alfie Mawson fits the bill but would we be prepared to make such an investment ? I'm not just for " splashing the cash " but the spine of this team will be vital for the challenges ahead. Other young candidates might be available from foreign parts but would surely be a risky bet for their first year in the Premier League ( and ours for some time )
Mawson probably going to Wolves, prepared to pay £20m + & offering him big money. He wants to come back to London though
At the risk of being pilloried- I would pay that . If we got Mitro as well that would make the spine look pretty good ( I think Betts has fully earned the right to have his chance ) Ream with all his experience would be the ideal partner for Mawson. We really do need a young centre back who can both defend and play. If he worked out his value might double in the future . ( look at Van Dyk )
Mawson probably going to Wolves, prepared to pay £20m + & offering him big money. He wants to come back to London though
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At the risk of being pilloried- I would pay that . If we got Mitro as well that would make the spine look pretty good ( I think Betts has fully earned the right to have his chance ) Ream with all his experience would be the ideal partner for Mawson. We really do need a young centre back who can both defend and play. If he worked out his value might double in the future . ( look at Van Dyk )
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I wouldn't pillory you for that. The fee is a bit top endy but Ream clearly needs the right long term partner (no disrespect to a brilliant Odoi). And I agree that if we got Mito as well then that would give us a strong spine.
Did we miss out on Tadic from Southampton?? Only around £10m Mark and he seems to link up well with Mitrovic.
It's confirmed he is going to Ajax in Holland!
Hopefully with Serbia about to go out of the World Cup (barring a big comeback) we can start to get Mitro signed up
Quote from: Jeroen on June 27, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Did we miss out on Tadic from Southampton?? Only around £10m Mark and he seems to link up well with Mitrovic.
It's confirmed he is going to Ajax in Holland!
Tadic wanted to move back to Holland
And the Tadic fee was closer to 18m
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News in East Anglia suggests that Bristol City have agreed a fee for Adam Webster (of Ipswich). Webster would have been a good signing imo, but potentially means Flint is close to agreeing a deal elsewhere.
Quote from: cday908 on June 27, 2018, 10:31:41 PM
News in East Anglia suggests that Bristol City have agreed a fee for Adam Webster (of Ipswich). Webster would have been a good signing imo, but potentially means Flint is close to agreeing a deal elsewhere.
Flints gone to Boro.
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Quote from: Jeroen on June 27, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Did we miss out on Tadic from Southampton?? Only around £10m Mark and he seems to link up well with Mitrovic.
It's confirmed he is going to Ajax in Holland!
To me he's like a better version of Cairney when he played right wing. Really he's more of a numner 10. Good player but not pacy and also a bit inconsistent.
Quote from: cday908 on June 27, 2018, 10:31:41 PM
News in East Anglia suggests that Bristol City have agreed a fee for Adam Webster (of Ipswich). Webster would have been a good signing imo, but potentially means Flint is close to agreeing a deal elsewhere.
If Bristol City are buying him then he's isn't good enough. We aren't in the championship anymore.
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 27, 2018, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on June 27, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Did we miss out on Tadic from Southampton?? Only around £10m Mark and he seems to link up well with Mitrovic.
It's confirmed he is going to Ajax in Holland!
To me he's like a better version of Cairney when he played right wing. Really he's more of a numner 10. Good player but not pacy and also a bit inconsistent.
Really?
This love never ends.... 064.gif
QPR eye deal for Derby striker Martin
QPR are set to make an approach for Derby County striker Chris Martin.
Martin, 29, previously played for the Rams under Steve McClaren, who is keen to be reunited with him at Loftus Road. The Suffolk-born Scotland international is under contract at Pride Park until 2020 but has been out of the first-team picture there for some time. He spent the 2016-17 season in west London, on loan at Fulham, where he scored 10 goals in 21 Championship appearances.
With McClaren having returned to Derby for a second spell as manager, he and Martin wanted to scrap the player's season-long loan midway through the campaign, but Fulham refused.
Derby sacked McClaren in March last year and Martin remained out of favour at the East Midlands club. He spent the second half of last season on loan at Reading, where he started just four matches. Martin began his career at Norwich and had spells on loan at Luton, Crystal Palace and Swindon before moving to Derby in 2013.
https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-want-derby-county-forward-and-two-defenders
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Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 27, 2018, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on June 27, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Did we miss out on Tadic from Southampton?? Only around £10m Mark and he seems to link up well with Mitrovic.
It's confirmed he is going to Ajax in Holland!
To me he's like a better version of Cairney when he played right wing. Really he's more of a numner 10. Good player but not pacy and also a bit inconsistent.
Really?
Sky are saying 18m. Far too much IMO
Wonder if we've looked at Brentfords Chris Mepham?. Bees mate he knows his stuff said hes a fantastic prospect & is being looked at by several premier league clubs.
Apparently got a bit of everything, 6ft 3" pacy & very accomplished on the ball. Brentford want around 12-15m which is a lot for a 20 year old defender in his first season but could turn out to be a bargain if he continues to improve
I think this is typical Colin, average players at mid-range money, which will see them get beaten more often than not http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5892163/Cardiff-City-edge-closer-signing-Bobby-Reid-make-offer-9m-trump-West-Brom.html
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on June 28, 2018, 01:28:01 AM
Wonder if we've looked at Brentfords Chris Mepham?. Bees mate he knows his stuff said hes a fantastic prospect & is being looked at by several premier league clubs.
Apparently got a bit of everything, 6ft 3" pacy & very accomplished on the ball. Brentford want around 12-15m which is a lot for a 20 year old defender in his first season but could turn out to be a bargain if he continues to improve
Ive touted his name pteviously, Bournemouth are keen on him , great prospect and recently broke in to the Wales side,
His only negative is the fact that he is a big QPR fan .
Quote from: wonderfulthingcali on June 28, 2018, 02:17:26 AM
I think this is typical Colin, average players at mid-range money, which will see them get beaten more often than not http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5892163/Cardiff-City-edge-closer-signing-Bobby-Reid-make-offer-9m-trump-West-Brom.html
True. Though, he is young isn't he? Had a bit of a breakthrough season.
Alex Smithies to Cardiff(bit hard on Neil Etheridge who was excellent for them last season)
David Stockdale Birmingham to Leeds.
According to talkadoodle Fulham are desperate to land Cavaleiro,and will go back with a higher bid.
Would love this to happen, but I don't think it will.
Can't believe someone said Tadic is a better version than Cairney....Anyway, hes struggled at saints with consistency albeit with a decent assist ratio, hes turning 30 this year and costs in excess of 15m. I think its ok to say we didn't miss out on much there. Don't get me wrong, I really rate him but hes definitely a luxury player who frustrated Saints fans overall.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 28, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Can't believe someone said Tadic is a better version than Cairney....Anyway, hes struggled at saints with consistency albeit with a decent assist ratio, hes turning 30 this year and costs in excess of 15m. I think its ok to say we didn't miss out on much there. Don't get me wrong, I really rate him but hes definitely a luxury player who frustrated Saints fans overall.
They said he was a better version of Cairney
when he played on the right wing. Cairney wasn't very good out there.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on June 28, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Can't believe someone said Tadic is a better version than Cairney....Anyway, hes struggled at saints with consistency albeit with a decent assist ratio, hes turning 30 this year and costs in excess of 15m. I think its ok to say we didn't miss out on much there. Don't get me wrong, I really rate him but hes definitely a luxury player who frustrated Saints fans overall.
They said he was a better version of Cairney on the wing. Cairney wasn't very good out there.
Oh....my bad! Never skim read in the morning!
I think our priority should still be signing a proven premiership CB to play with Ream. I think a bit of premiership experience at the back would be a huge asset for us this season.
cardiff are building one hell of a team for when they get relegated again to the championship. forward planning there
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Quote from: FFC1987 on June 28, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Can't believe someone said Tadic is a better version than Cairney....Anyway, hes struggled at saints with consistency albeit with a decent assist ratio, hes turning 30 this year and costs in excess of 15m. I think its ok to say we didn't miss out on much there. Don't get me wrong, I really rate him but hes definitely a luxury player who frustrated Saints fans overall.
They said he was a better version of Cairney on the wing. Cairney wasn't very good out there.
Oh....my bad! Never skim read in the morning!
It was me and no offence taken. Point I was making is he's not what we need for right wing.
I see a lot of people questoning the Cavaleiro-deal, but is it really that far fetched?
Wolves have already signed portugals number 1 in Rui Patricio (a player we probably would never be able to sign this summer) so im guessing Wolves will be looking to improve their team further and aiming already quite high, maybe as high up the table that they dont even consider themselves to be our rivals and not expecitng a relegation battle.
Lets face it, trying to sign another promoted teams key player is generally a no-go, because why strenghten another rival and at the same time weaken yourself? But despite this, Fulham seem to have picked something up here. Why else be so insistent? Perhaps its come to Fulhams attention that Wolves are looking for bigger names, looking to spend big and therefore know that they'll soon replace Cavaleiro with a better player?
Quote from: wonderfulthingcali on June 28, 2018, 02:17:26 AM
I think this is typical Colin, average players at mid-range money, which will see them get beaten more often than not http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5892163/Cardiff-City-edge-closer-signing-Bobby-Reid-make-offer-9m-trump-West-Brom.html
If he's average for the premier league, that's a bargain and only the loftiest clubs don't need average premier league players. He way above average for the Championship, very impressive and could not understand why he was used from the bench so often. There are some players who, when warming up, show how ridiculously comfortable with a football they are. Odoi is one and this guy is another.
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Quote from: wonderfulthingcali on June 28, 2018, 02:17:26 AM
I think this is typical Colin, average players at mid-range money, which will see them get beaten more often than not http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5892163/Cardiff-City-edge-closer-signing-Bobby-Reid-make-offer-9m-trump-West-Brom.html
If he's average for the premier league, that's a bargain and only the loftiest clubs don't need average premier league players. He way above average for the Championship, very impressive and could not understand why he was used from the bench so often. There are some players who, when warming up, show how ridiculously comfortable with a football they are. Odoi is one and this guy is another.
Probably deserved his chance. 19 goals is not to be sniffed at. 10m feels alot however IMO.
Quote from: Riversider on June 28, 2018, 02:24:36 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on June 28, 2018, 01:28:01 AM
Wonder if we've looked at Brentfords Chris Mepham?. Bees mate he knows his stuff said hes a fantastic prospect & is being looked at by several premier league clubs.
Apparently got a bit of everything, 6ft 3" pacy & very accomplished on the ball. Brentford want around 12-15m which is a lot for a 20 year old defender in his first season but could turn out to be a bargain if he continues to improve
Ive touted his name pteviously, Bournemouth are keen on him , great prospect and recently broke in to the Wales side,
His only negative is the fact that he is a big QPR fan .
Could be a good alternative to Mawson.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 28, 2018, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 28, 2018, 02:24:36 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on June 28, 2018, 01:28:01 AM
Wonder if we've looked at Brentfords Chris Mepham?. Bees mate he knows his stuff said hes a fantastic prospect & is being looked at by several premier league clubs.
Apparently got a bit of everything, 6ft 3" pacy & very accomplished on the ball. Brentford want around 12-15m which is a lot for a 20 year old defender in his first season but could turn out to be a bargain if he continues to improve
Ive touted his name pteviously, Bournemouth are keen on him , great prospect and recently broke in to the Wales side,
His only negative is the fact that he is a big QPR fan .
Could be a good alternative to Mawson.
same price bracket likely though
Quote from: corbs83 on June 28, 2018, 10:09:03 AM
cardiff are building one hell of a team for when they get relegated again to the championship. forward planning there
At least they're making signings.
Come on Fulham get cracking,we got lucky last window with Mitro,if Anderlecht hadn't fell through last minute we would still be in Championship.
We might not be so lucky again. 049:gif
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Quote from: corbs83 on June 28, 2018, 10:09:03 AM
cardiff are building one hell of a team for when they get relegated again to the championship. forward planning there
At least they're making signings.
Come on Fulham get cracking,we got lucky last window with Mitro,if Anderlecht hadn't fell through last minute we would still be in Championship.
We might not be so lucky again. 049:gif
What are you after MINCE? A Striker perhaps?? :)
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on June 28, 2018, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 28, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on June 28, 2018, 10:09:03 AM
cardiff are building one hell of a team for when they get relegated again to the championship. forward planning there
At least they're making signings.
Come on Fulham get cracking,we got lucky last window with Mitro,if Anderlecht hadn't fell through last minute we would still be in Championship.
We might not be so lucky again. 049:gif
What are you after MINCE? A Striker perhaps?? :)
lol.
Yes I might have to put up "Where's Our Striker" topic.😜
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/28/report-huddersfield-and-fulham-plot-summer-moves-for-leicesters/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday&__twitter_impression=true
Musa would be a great signing. Not sure how he fits as a left winger/forward though unless he could play on the right?
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https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/28/report-huddersfield-and-fulham-plot-summer-moves-for-leicesters/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday&__twitter_impression=true
yes please
Quote from: mkras99 on June 28, 2018, 03:37:53 PM
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/28/report-huddersfield-and-fulham-plot-summer-moves-for-leicesters/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday&__twitter_impression=true
Reputable Turkish Media..lol
Some bloke who sells kebabs outside Barnet's ground I should think.😵
Jack Wilshere's going to Fenerbahce if anyone in here still had hopes of signing him.
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-want-bosnian-wonderkid_329410.html
Fulham interested in Bosnian wonderkid Edis Smajic?
Fulham are reportedly interested in Bosnian Under-21s player Edis Smajic.
The Sloboda Tuzla midfielder scored 10 goals in 41 appearances last season and has represented his nation at U17, U19 and U21.
The 18-year-old made his senior debut having just celebrated his 17th birthday, coming on as a substitute in the 90th minute in a league game against NK Metalleghe-BSI.
According to the Sun, Smajic is one of Fulham's main targets this summer, but they will face competition from an unnamed Dutch club.
The report adds that Cottagers manager Slavisa Jokanovic has already contacted the club regarding the player's availability.
@korfan12
Ki Sung-yueng's new club is rumoured to be the recently promoted Fulham. Ki wanted to play in London.
5:52 PM - 28 Jun 2018
Also, on Musa, he has to play up-front to be effective. Leicester ended up playing him on the wing because he couldn't get ahead of Vardy, Okazaki etc. So were we to sign him, we'd basically be shooting ourselves in the foot because as Mitrovic has shown we need a big lump up-front to make our system work.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 28, 2018, 10:11:01 PM
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-want-bosnian-wonderkid_329410.html
Fulham interested in Bosnian wonderkid Edis Smajic?
Fulham are reportedly interested in Bosnian Under-21s player Edis Smajic.
The Sloboda Tuzla midfielder scored 10 goals in 41 appearances last season and has represented his nation at U17, U19 and U21.
The 18-year-old made his senior debut having just celebrated his 17th birthday, coming on as a substitute in the 90th minute in a league game against NK Metalleghe-BSI.
According to the Sun, Smajic is one of Fulham's main targets this summer, but they will face competition from an unnamed Dutch club.
The report adds that Cottagers manager Slavisa Jokanovic has already contacted the club regarding the player's availability.
Does it sounds like "It is Magic"?
Miloš Marković
@MilosMarkovic
27 min27 minutter siden
Mer
#Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic set for a permanent #Fulham stay.
A €25m transfer said to be on the cards whereas Slavisa #Jokanovic also wants to tie Ryan #Sessegnon to a long-term deal and thus send a clear message of intent in Cottagers' #PremierLeague return.
Quote from: Hoppus on June 29, 2018, 08:50:15 AM
Miloš Marković
@MilosMarkovic
27 min27 minutter siden
Mer
#Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic set for a permanent #Fulham stay.
A €25m transfer said to be on the cards whereas Slavisa #Jokanovic also wants to tie Ryan #Sessegnon to a long-term deal and thus send a clear message of intent in Cottagers' #PremierLeague return.
At last might it be a player coming in??
Quote from: Hoppus on June 29, 2018, 08:50:15 AM
Miloš Marković
@MilosMarkovic
27 min27 minutter siden
Mer
#Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic set for a permanent #Fulham stay.
A €25m transfer said to be on the cards whereas Slavisa #Jokanovic also wants to tie Ryan #Sessegnon to a long-term deal and thus send a clear message of intent in Cottagers' #PremierLeague return.
How reliable is this source? This is what we are hoping for.
Also, Ki would be a good free signing and would certainly fit how we play and has played a decent amount over the last few seasons. Presumably he would be instead of Norwood as opposed to as well as...?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 28, 2018, 06:31:31 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on June 28, 2018, 03:37:53 PM
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/28/report-huddersfield-and-fulham-plot-summer-moves-for-leicesters/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday&__twitter_impression=true
Reputable Turkish Media..lol
Some bloke who sells kebabs outside Barnet's ground I should think.😵
I hear what you say, mate, the UK media aren't very reliable but in many cases that I've seen the overseas media have more concern for reliable reporting rather than recycling or just plain making it up.
As they say "the grass isn't always greener"
Bournemouth set to let midfielder Emerson Hyndman join Wigan on loan.
Quote from: mkras99 on June 29, 2018, 12:05:32 AM
@korfan12
Ki Sung-yueng's new club is rumoured to be the recently promoted Fulham. Ki wanted to play in London.
5:52 PM - 28 Jun 2018
Would be a good signing but who gets dropped? He's a carbon copy of Cairney.
Quote from: f321ffc on June 29, 2018, 09:32:16 AM
As they say "the grass isn't always greener"
Bournemouth set to let midfielder Emerson Hyndman join Wigan on loan.
Shame about his career, he has a lot of talent. Maybe not the grounded personality to work on his game.
If we announced Mitrovic and Ki, that would be a great start to the window. Think Ki has a lot more to offer than the team he played in allowed him to, to be honest. New contracts for Sess/Cairney/Slav and starting our spending on Ki/Mitrovic and I'd be delighted.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 29, 2018, 08:56:23 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on June 29, 2018, 08:50:15 AM
Miloš Marković
@MilosMarkovic
27 min27 minutter siden
Mer
#Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic set for a permanent #Fulham stay.
A €25m transfer said to be on the cards whereas Slavisa #Jokanovic also wants to tie Ryan #Sessegnon to a long-term deal and thus send a clear message of intent in Cottagers' #PremierLeague return.
How reliable is this source? This is what we are hoping for.
Also, Ki would be a good free signing and would certainly fit how we play and has played a decent amount over the last few seasons. Presumably he would be instead of Norwood as opposed to as well as...?
I am not an expert on Twitter reliability, but he got almost 3000 followers and is a Serbian journalist.
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 29, 2018, 09:53:06 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on June 29, 2018, 12:05:32 AM
@korfan12
Ki Sung-yueng's new club is rumoured to be the recently promoted Fulham. Ki wanted to play in London.
5:52 PM - 28 Jun 2018
Would be a good signing but who gets dropped? He's a carbon copy of Cairney.
Well over a 38 game season you need options - if we'd have had a player like Ki last season for example when Cairney was out we'd probs have got promoted automatically. Youd get Ki over Norwood as I said and hed be the player youd rotate the main 3 with (minus Kmac, we need a DM for him) or bring on around the 60th minute if needed.
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 29, 2018, 09:53:06 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on June 29, 2018, 12:05:32 AM
@korfan12
Ki Sung-yueng's new club is rumoured to be the recently promoted Fulham. Ki wanted to play in London.
5:52 PM - 28 Jun 2018
Shirt sales would rocket, might be a financial signing much like man united with Park years ago
Would be a good signing but who gets dropped? He's a carbon copy of Cairney.
Quote from: ollienixs on June 29, 2018, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on June 29, 2018, 09:53:06 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on June 29, 2018, 12:05:32 AM
@korfan12
Ki Sung-yueng's new club is rumoured to be the recently promoted Fulham. Ki wanted to play in London.
5:52 PM - 28 Jun 2018
Shirt sales would rocket, might be a financial signing much like man united with Park years ago
Would be a good signing but who gets dropped? He's a carbon copy of Cairney.
You need some squad depth in the PL. Gives TC a rest late in games and covers injury. Also, for all we know, TC's new contract (unconfirmed) may have a buy-out clause.
A bit weird but Swedish second largest news site Expressen has an article on the South Korean players returning home after the World Cup and ends it with:
'Captian Ki Sung-Yueng was missing from the reception. He went straight to England, where he in a few days time is expected to leave Swansea and sign for Fulham.'
Quote from: twang on June 29, 2018, 10:31:20 AM
A bit weird but Swedish second largest news site Expressen has an article on the South Korean players returning home after the World Cup and ends it with:
'Captian Ki Sung-Yueng was missing from the reception. He went straight to England, where he in a few days time is expected to leave Swansea and sign for Fulham.'
Feeling positive this one. More so than the Tim Krul free transfer which has gone quiet.
Things will start moving from today I reckon. Players starting pre season will find out if in the managers plans and movement will begin.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2018, 10:43:22 AM
Things will start moving from today I reckon. Players starting pre season will find out if in the managers plans and movement will begin.
That sounds sensible and makes sense, I expect there is a method in the madness, what with having to deal with agents and other clubs, I am sure seeds have been sown, as the club are fully aware of what needs to be done.
So I shall have another Large Brandy and take in some ☀️ sun.
Just gonna throw this in here to add some levity.
https://www.footballfancast.com/championship/west-bromwich-albion/revealed-majority-of-west-bromwich-albion-fans-want-mitrovic-to-join-attack
Since when were West Brom even on the radar for this move?
Not that we were 100% interested but linked Chambers signing a contract extension with Arsenal
https://twitter.com/GV_Transfers/status/1012661650149830657?s=19
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https://twitter.com/GV_Transfers/status/1012661650149830657?s=19
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I don't believe that we're in for Torres for one second.
Quote from: Tabby on June 29, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on June 29, 2018, 12:47:56 PM
https://twitter.com/GV_Transfers/status/1012661650149830657?s=19
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I don't believe that we're in for Torres for one second.
Yeah, hard to believe.
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https://turkish-football.com/fulham-join-crystal-palace-in-race-to-sign-39-cap-turkey-international-this-summer/
Fulham join Crystal Palace in race to sign 39-cap Turkey international this summer
Newly promoted Premier League side Fulham have joined the race to sign Turkey international midfielder Ozan Tufan.
We recently reported that Crystal Palace were locked in a race with Celta Vigo for Tufan however, Fenerbahce put transfer talks on hold following the departure of manager Aykut Kocaman.
The Yellow Canaries have subsequently appointed Philippe Cocu as their new manager.
A source close to the club has revealed to Turkish-Football that Fulham has enquired about the availability of the 23-year-old.
Per the source, Fenerbahce are willing to listen to offers for Tufan this summer.
Meanwhile, the Turkish outlet Yeni Akit has linked Tufan with an unlikely move to Fenerbahce's bitter rivals, Galatasaray.
Ozan Tufan recently took to social media to share photos of him back in first-team training.
The 23-year-old joined Fenerbahce for £6 million from Bursaspor back in 2015. Tufan provided two assists and scored three goals in 14 appearances for the Yellow Canaries this season
Quote from: f321ffc on June 29, 2018, 09:32:16 AM
As they say "the grass isn't always greener"
Bournemouth set to let midfielder Emerson Hyndman join Wigan on loan.
Feel for him. He's in a bit of a purgatory right now. Lots of development time lost wasting away at Bournemouth. This move doesn't come across as all that promising - playing time wise - either.
Would love to see us go in for Daniel Arzani. He is in London currently with his manager shopping him around after his world cup debut for Aust. Only 19 and a huge talent.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 29, 2018, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on June 29, 2018, 09:32:16 AM
As they say "the grass isn't always greener"
Bournemouth set to let midfielder Emerson Hyndman join Wigan on loan.
Feel for him. He's in a bit of a purgatory right now. Lots of development time lost wasting away at Bournemouth. This move doesn't come across as all that promising - playing time wise - either.
Sure, it's a move that hasn't worked out well for him (or Bournemouth). Perhaps the simple answer is that he just hasn't turned out to be as good as many people (including me) thought he would. He was rather good at Rangers, but that is hardly the big time. At 22 he still has a little, but not much, time. Not getting a look in at Manchester City is one thing, not getting one at Bournemouth is quite another.
I think it's worth pointing out that player contracts run until June 30th, so at 1 second past midnight on Saturday morning some players will officially become free agents and some players enter the final year of their contract,
So in essence things will really start after this weekend, I fully expect 1 or 2 announced by close of play on Tuesday,
Take Tim Krul as an example, has been clearly been told that he can leave Brighton but "officially" he isn't free to move on until Sunday,
So enjoy the weekend everybody and get ready for a busy week of comings and goings next week.
1000 posts in, and no one in yet, surely this is some sort of record...
(For the record I also think things will start over the weekend and am not panicking yet)
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Quote from: Riversider on June 29, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
I think it's worth pointing out that player contracts run until June 30th, so at 1 second past midnight on Saturday morning some players will officially become free agents and some players enter the final year of their contract,
So in essence things will really start after this weekend, I fully expect 1 or 2 announced by close of play on Tuesday,
Take Tim Krul as an example, has been clearly been told that he can leave Brighton but "officially" he isn't free to move on until Sunday,
So enjoy the weekend everybody and get ready for a busy week of comings and goings next week.
I was thinking about this earlier, once the 30th is out the way you'll see a lot more movement regarding transfers.
I have a feeling we'll announce at least 1 player on Monday.
This is FFC and perfectly the status quo,only not ever you want.
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Quote from: Riversider on June 29, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
I think it's worth pointing out that player contracts run until June 30th, so at 1 second past midnight on Saturday morning some players will officially become free agents and some players enter the final year of their contract,
So in essence things will really start after this weekend, I fully expect 1 or 2 announced by close of play on Tuesday,
Take Tim Krul as an example, has been clearly been told that he can leave Brighton but "officially" he isn't free to move on until Sunday,
So enjoy the weekend everybody and get ready for a busy week of comings and goings next week.
I was thinking about this earlier, once the 30th is out the way you'll see a lot more movement regarding transfers.
I have a feeling we'll announce at least 1 player on Monday.
Excellent.
Then we can immediately move on to moaning about how unsuitable/over rated/ over priced the new signings are and how they will fatally upset the established team members.
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🗞 Newcastle have agreed a deal with South Korean midfielder Ki Sung-yeung, he is available on a free transfer after his contract ran out at Swansea.
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Ki just confirmed signing for Newcastle, Sky Sports Transfer Centre
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 29, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
Ki just confirmed signing for Newcastle, Sky Sports Transfer Centre
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That's actually really disappointing. Tailor made for us.
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Ki just confirmed signing for Newcastle, Sky Sports Transfer Centre
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Well we have Cairney anyway, they're same kind of player. Interesting to see how he fits into the side given they have Shelvey.
Ki is a very good signing for Newcastle
Excited for next week all the players start coming back to training. All teams will step up player recruitment from next week
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on June 29, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
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That's actually really disappointing. Tailor made for us.
Also disappointing as his being a prominent national team player would have likely meant more revenue from his fans in Korea. May not have been huge numbers but money is money. And it would also help that Fulham have broader brand recognition.
Funny why so many transfers have already taken place, Fredericks was so quick he must have made a bee line directly from Wembley to the Olympic stadium without stopping for a shower.
Quote from: filham on June 29, 2018, 11:19:15 PM
Funny why so many transfers have already taken place, Fredericks was so quick he must have made a bee line directly from Wembley to the Olympic stadium without stopping for a shower.
Fredericks deal with West Ham, was already settled and ironed out in January. A deal was also in place with FFC, that he'd remain until the end of the season, help them get promotion, and leave in the summer without any stress. He was never staying, whether we went up or stayed down. His time at Fulham was done.
You will notice that all the players, coach, and Tony were happy with this, and, it was purely down to the player bettering himself financially.
West Ham are paying Fredericks something ridiculous like 50K a week over 4 years with a bumper signing on fee, yes, Ryan Fredericks!!
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Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on June 29, 2018, 11:34:31 PM
West Ham are paying Fredericks something ridiculous like 50K a week over 4 years with a bumper signing on fee, yes, Ryan Fredericks!!
Our average salary this season will be around £50k per week, maybe a little more. It is hardly ridiculous. If Fredericks went to West ham for more money I both hope and expect they if is substantially more than that
Our average salary this season will be around £50k per week, but, for players better than Frederick's. He wanted to be the highest paid player at Fulham, even before we got promoted, and they said no. We move on, Frederick's moves on.
Personally, I think he will get eaten alive in the Premiership, as his defending qualities are not good enough.
Don't blame any player moving for more money it's a short career.
Quote from: hovewhite on June 30, 2018, 05:02:27 AM
Don't blame any player moving for more money it's a short career.
Don't go along with this short career nonsense,they can go and get a job doing something else like lots of miners and steelworkers have had to do.
Rooney has just signed a deal for two and a half years in USA worth £12 million...
Games insane...Some of the greedy swine's would move clubs for an extra tenner a week.😒
Think Fredricks will struggle at West Ham . Not a good career moveIMO, money or no money loyalty to your mates and club must be worth something.Despite the dosh I think he`ll regret it.
Clubs sell players if it suits them,so I understand the players side also and why wouldn't you earn as much as you can while you can.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on June 29, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
I have a feeling we'll announce at least 1 player on Monday.
Crumbs... in all its senses.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 30, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on June 29, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
I have a feeling we'll announce at least 1 player on Monday.
Crumbs... in all its senses.
Do you have to whinge in every single thread? I think the entire forum are already aware of what you think on this subject.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 30, 2018, 06:06:08 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on June 30, 2018, 05:02:27 AM
Don't blame any player moving for more money it's a short career.
Don't go along with this short career nonsense,they can go and get a job doing something else like lots of miners and steelworkers have had to do.
Rooney has just signed a deal for two and a half years in USA worth £12 million...
Games insane...Some of the greedy swine's would move clubs for an extra tenner a week.😒
In 1962 I actually moved and changed jobs from being a road sweeper to a dustman for and extra half a crown a week, and I still feel guilty about it today. 💷💰
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 30, 2018, 06:06:08 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on June 30, 2018, 05:02:27 AM
Don't blame any player moving for more money it's a short career.
Don't go along with this short career nonsense,they can go and get a job doing something else like lots of miners and steelworkers have had to do.
Rooney has just signed a deal for two and a half years in USA worth £12 million...
Games insane...Some of the greedy swine's would move clubs for an extra tenner a week.😒
In 1962 I actually moved and changed jobs from being a road sweeper to a dustman for and extra half a crown a week, and I still feel guilty about it today. 💷💰
My granfer would change farms for an extra 2d a week - that was a pint of beer!
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on June 29, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
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I think it's worth pointing out that player contracts run until June 30th, so at 1 second past midnight on Saturday morning some players will officially become free agents and some players enter the final year of their contract,
So in essence things will really start after this weekend, I fully expect 1 or 2 announced by close of play on Tuesday,
Take Tim Krul as an example, has been clearly been told that he can leave Brighton but "officially" he isn't free to move on until Sunday,
So enjoy the weekend everybody and get ready for a busy week of comings and goings next week.
I was thinking about this earlier, once the 30th is out the way you'll see a lot more movement regarding transfers.
I have a feeling we'll announce at least 1 player on Monday.
So we are waiting to go for out of contract players ?
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Quote from: Maidstone Lee on June 29, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
I have a feeling we'll announce at least 1 player on Monday.
Crumbs... in all its senses.
Do you have to whinge in every single thread? I think the entire forum are already aware of what you think on this subject.
I think this is totally uncalled for. Firstly Tosh is not and never was a whinger and secondly he often tries to present a very balanced view ( unlike some on here).
Pavard anyone?
Playing RB for France this afternoon. 22 and plays for Stuttgart. Looks a very tidy RB.
Quote from: Rambler on June 30, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
Pavard anyone?
Playing RB for France this afternoon. 22 and plays for Stuttgart. Looks a very tidy RB.
No chance on him, we'd need to be in the CL to be on the radar there.
Quote from: Twig on June 30, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
I think this is totally uncalled for. Firstly Tosh is not and never was a whinger and secondly he often tries to present a very balanced view ( unlike some on here).
I prefer the silly season thread to be about transfers, not a load of complaining. Especially when we have several threads better suited for it.
Even transfer gossip is scarce!
Quote from: hovewhite on June 30, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
Even transfer gossip is scarce!
Peter Tosh has gone from Alloa to Stenhousemuir.😀
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Quote from: Rambler on June 30, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
Pavard anyone?
Playing RB for France this afternoon. 22 and plays for Stuttgart. Looks a very tidy RB.
No chance on him, we'd need to be in the CL to be on the radar there.
Stuttgart aren't anywhere near CL. With that goal his value has skyrocketed!
Bjelland is now a free agent. Think he could be a good pickup for us.
Would take both players, reckon they'd be excellent for us (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180630/460099b6b8202caed6099959c56defd5.jpg)
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Looks like Hughes has gotten dosh to spend judging from the clearout. I'd be worried if I was a Southampton fan, he hasn't got a good track record when given money to spend.
Quote from: Tabby on June 30, 2018, 04:32:27 PM
Bjelland is now a free agent. Think he could be a good pickup for us.
Injury prone and turning 30 next month. Pretty much the antithesis of any signing we've made over the last two years.
Does anybody else think that a loan move for Tammy Abraham as back up/ competition to Mitro is a no brainier? He didn't excel at Swansea hence he could be at our level plus the fact his brother is here and we are local. Scored 5 in 31 in a poor Swansea team but as a backup/ number 2 could be a great cheap option for us. Just feels an obvious move for us.
Watch this story get picked up by a Red top...
Would take Boufal at Fulham from Southampton. Under the right manager he will be top class he has a lot of talent
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Quote from: hovewhite on June 30, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
Even transfer gossip is scarce!
Peter Tosh has gone from Alloa to Stenhousemuir.😀
Is that why Toshes mate was being pessimistic earlier?
Quote from: MrFFC on June 30, 2018, 06:37:48 PM
Would take Boufal at Fulham from Southampton. Under the right manager he will be top class he has a lot of talent
He can play this guy,yes inconsistent but with the right coach he could be very good.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 30, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
Does anybody else think that a loan move for Tammy Abraham as back up/ competition to Mitro is a no brainier? He didn't excel at Swansea hence he could be at our level plus the fact his brother is here and we are local. Scored 5 in 31 in a poor Swansea team but as a backup/ number 2 could be a great cheap option for us. Just feels an obvious move for us.
Watch this story get picked up by a Red top...
I'd go for that if push came to shove. It's not necessarily on offer tho
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 30, 2018, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on June 30, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
Does anybody else think that a loan move for Tammy Abraham as back up/ competition to Mitro is a no brainier? He didn't excel at Swansea hence he could be at our level plus the fact his brother is here and we are local. Scored 5 in 31 in a poor Swansea team but as a backup/ number 2 could be a great cheap option for us. Just feels an obvious move for us.
Watch this story get picked up by a Red top...
I'd go for that if push came to shove. It's not necessarily on offer tho
I'm assuming there won't be any movement until they sort out who's managing them next season. Sarri might come in and fancy keeping guys like Abraham and Loftus-Cheek around rather than loaning them out.
Reckon with the europa league, a lot of their usual loaners could be kept for game time at least before christmas
Forgetting Mitrovic, Abrahams clearly better than anyone else we can field in the striker role.
Boufal is top player, Tore Fred at CC in cup game. Doesn't get a long with Mark Hughes
Quote from: @jolslover on June 30, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
Boufal is top player, Tore Fred at CC in cup game. Doesn't get a long with Pardew
No one likes Pardew but it's Mark Hughes he's fallen out with
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Boufal is top player, Tore Fred at CC in cup game. Doesn't get a long with Pardew
No one likes Pardew but it's Mark Hughes he's fallen out with
ahahah easy mistake, i edited it hopefully no one saw.
'Fulham make £14m bid
Fulham have made a new attempt to land Wolves winger Ivan Cavaleiro according to reports.'
Source: football.london
Quote from: Hoppus on June 30, 2018, 09:38:53 PM
'Fulham make £14m bid
Fulham have made a new attempt to land Wolves winger Ivan Cavaleiro according to reports.'
Source: football.london
Deeecent, Still don't think Wolves will sell but hes very good.
Cavaleiro would be a great signing but doubt they'll sell for less than £20m.
Quote from: Classic94 on June 30, 2018, 10:22:17 PM
Cavaleiro would be a great signing but doubt they'll sell for less than £20m.
Cavaleiro, mitrovic and Abraham's. strikers sorted.
Mepham or Mawson. Defenders done. Come on Fulham!
I wish we'd got ki. Missing out on him was a huge shame.
Wolves won't sell Cavaleiro, and I doubt he'd leave them to join us anyway (barring us offering him a ridiculous contract). Would rather we focused our efforts and that sort of money into someone we could actually sign like Adama Traore or Bolasie.
The main signing for me is still slavisia as I think mitro will only join us if slav is staying.
Might just be me, but, when I have seen Abraham's play he seems to have an attitude. That would rock the harmony we have in our squad where no one seems to play being the superstar.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 01, 2018, 09:00:49 AM
Might just be me, but, when I have seen Abraham's play he seems to have an attitude. That would rock the harmony we have in our squad where no one seems to play being the superstar.
I've noticed that as well and hope his younger brother is not in the same mould.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 01, 2018, 05:49:23 AM
The main signing for me is still slavisia as I think mitro will only join us if slav is staying.
Agree, plus the sooner Slav's contract is sorted then the sooner we can get on with our transfer business. Till then things are a bit in limbo.
David Silva just lost the ball while in possession...... tut tut tut, that's another one crossed off the wanted list.
Joe Felix has left Fulham to join QPHahaha
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Quote from: bobby01 on July 01, 2018, 09:00:49 AM
Might just be me, but, when I have seen Abraham's play he seems to have an attitude. That would rock the harmony we have in our squad where no one seems to play being the superstar.
I've noticed that as well and hope his younger brother is not in the same mould.
The attitude I noticed in his two Craven Cottage appearances within a week for Bristol: I want to score goals. What a handful he was.
Sky linking us with Alassane Plea from Nice. Can't see it happening because he'd be in the 20-25m range and I doubt we'd spend that twice on two Strikers. Unless Mitrovic doesn't happen of course.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 01, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
Sky linking us with Alassane Plea from Nice. Can't see it happening because he'd be in the 20-25m range and I doubt we'd spend that twice on two Strikers. Unless Mitrovic doesn't happen of course.
Might be to strengthen our bargaining position for Mitro. Newcastle seem to think they hold all the cards at the moment.
And so we have a striker lined up if it all goes pearshaped.
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 01, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
Sky linking us with Alassane Plea from Nice. Can't see it happening because he'd be in the 20-25m range and I doubt we'd spend that twice on two Strikers. Unless Mitrovic doesn't happen of course.
Might be to strengthen our bargaining position for Mitro. Newcastle seem to think they hold all the cards at the moment.
And so we have a striker lined up if it all goes pearshaped.
I think if mitro to us happens it will be this next week,I am impation and like all of us for the transfer committee to get it done and dusted as he wants to play for us,also encouraging slavs new deal done in a positive spirit.
I would love us to sign Plea but he's not really the type of striker to fit our system. If anything it feels like a bluff to hurry Newcastle up, as apparently Ashley won't give Benitez new money until he signs a new deal, so any money he gets will have to come from sales and Mitro is their money maker. Because of that I feel like we're perhaps sending a message to Newcastle but we'll see, either Mitro or Plea up front would be great but Mitro might do better as a focal point to our attack as Plea is only 5"11.
Might not be an either/or situation (though I doubt it), Plea has been playing off of Balotelli (who I think is similar in playstyle to Mitro) a fair bit at Nice cutting in from the wing. Would be quite an upgrade on Ayite.
But, the most likely situation is that they wanted to throw in another name in their article.
Seems to me we want mitro and to strengthen the wider positions.
That's what the rumours seem to be saying. Nothing about a centre half yet.
Quote from: Holders on July 01, 2018, 08:05:21 PM
That's what the rumours seem to be saying. Nothing about a centre half yet.
No logic behind it, but I think we'll activate Fabian Schär's release clause with Deportivo once Switzerland go out of the World Cup. 4 million euros and he fits the profile of a "Fulham signing". Hope we're interested in Liam Moore as well.
Allegedly Nice have received a £25m and £27m bid from either Toon, West Ham, Fulham or Spurs, so there's a 50% chance we've actually bid for him. Alan Nixon who usually knows a thing or two said on Twitter he'll have an update from a Fulham perspective tomorrow morning so perhaps we have actually bid for him.
I know we all bleeted on about FFP in the championship but does this exist in the prem?
If it doesn't then realistically the sky is the limit as to what we can spend, Khan has money and maybe the self sufficient hope is only reality once you have retained premier league status and so actually spending is a good bet to staying up.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 01, 2018, 08:31:01 PM
I know we all bleeted on about FFP in the championship but does this exist in the prem?
If it doesn't then realistically the sky is the limit as to what we can spend, Khan has money and maybe the self sufficient hope is only reality once you have retained premier league status and so actually spending is a good bet to staying up.
There is FFP for the Prem. Think I saw somewhere on Twitter that we could bring our wage bill up to something like 59/69 million quid per year. MJG would know more about that than I would though.
Plus it would be silly to just go out and spend ridiculous amounts of money in the hope of staying up. QPR tried it and they're more than screwed now as a result. Think we'll be spending between 60-80m total, which is why I'd have doubts about signing Plea assuming Mitrovic is our #1 target.
West Ham, Spurs, Newcastle and Fulham trying to sign Alassane Pléa. Nice have received two offers for the forward - £27m and £25m
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 01, 2018, 08:31:01 PM
I know we all bleeted on about FFP in the championship but does this exist in the prem?
If it doesn't then realistically the sky is the limit as to what we can spend, Khan has money and maybe the self sufficient hope is only reality once you have retained premier league status and so actually spending is a good bet to staying up.
There is FFP for the Prem. Think I saw somewhere on Twitter that we could bring our wage bill up to something like 59/69 million quid per year. MJG would know more about that than I would though.
Plus it would be silly to just go out and spend ridiculous amounts of money in the hope of staying up. QPR tried it and they're more than screwed now as a result. Think we'll be spending between 60-80m total, which is why I'd have doubts about signing Plea assuming Mitrovic is our #1 target.
I've been looking at casually since the play-off final without being able to find an easily digestible summary anywhere unfortunately.
Ed Thompson's site reported a £67m ceiling on newly-promoted clubs' wages for the 2016/17 season but in the latest edition of the Premier League handbook, it seems to me to say that limit has gone up each year and will be £81m for the 2018/19 season. I only skimmed the handbook the other day so may be wrong.
And I think there has for a while been a ceiling on losses of £105m over a rolling 3-year period - lots of press on this from 2013 when it was initiated, if you Google it. Again looking at the PL handbook, that still appears to be in force.
To give some context, our wages the year we went down were £68.5m, but currently, they're about half that.
If that interpretation is correct, I don't see either limit impairing us.
For what it's worth, balancing the risks and rewards, IMO it makes far more sense just to do everything you can, including spending money where required, to stay up. If you try to protect your position in the event of relegation you'll likely (a) get yourself relegated and (b) realise you've failed to protect your position anyway, because it's just not possible.
My sentiments exactly, At present we have to spend and spend big to add the vital players and depth to our squad.
Mr Khan will spend big I'm sure of it
Just under six weeks until the opening game now so hopefully a busy week in transfers is on the cards.
I suspect Mitro, Kalas and Piazon will all return (hopefully this week).
Targett has gone on pre season tour with Southampton, so that deal may be some time away if it's going to happen at all...
Quote from: MJG on July 02, 2018, 08:23:15 AM
The difference is face to face you can continue to talk and follow up and try to get a resolution. Here people get involved in questioning and making statements and then you come back with a question or a reply and they never come back.
The art of conversation is largely lost in social media because many people who indulge in it like cheap shots. You, MJG, have the ability to draw people out and in doing so also add depth to a debate with observations and insight. Statto also does that more often than he doesn't. It'll be a great shame to lose people who actually make this Forum what it is - a debating board - and not an instrument of flagellation for those who have nothing better to do than pointlessly try to shoot others down.
There are those who make points with reasoned explanation and open to discussion and there are others who make statements as if they're empirical and then resent challenge. I think that's the difference.
Anyway...
Would we be happy with Bryan, Mitro and Plea or Cavaleiro? I think that would be a great move. CB worries me and I like the look of Marlon who Southampton are chasing. I think a continental CB is our way forward.
Quote from: Ordar on July 02, 2018, 09:16:14 AM
Is there any chance we can keep this thread about transfer news rather than people constantly using it as a forum to argue?
:clap_hands: Was just about to post a similar request :clap_hands:
So back to transfer news but not FFC ., from Twitter.
Villa want Burn. If they sell a few. Don't see Wigan selling him without a big fee. So difficult all round.
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Cam Villa afford Dan Burn or is that just a false rumour? They surely can't pay 6 million for him
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Quote from: Ordar on July 02, 2018, 09:16:14 AM
Is there any chance we can keep this thread about transfer news rather than people constantly using it as a forum to argue?
:clap_hands: Was just about to post a similar request :clap_hands:
Who is stopping you?
I have just heard a rumour that another silly season transfer that Villa, whose financial plight cannot even offer to employ free transfers are considering a bid for a player.....
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Quote from: Ordar on July 02, 2018, 09:16:14 AM
Is there any chance we can keep this thread about transfer news rather than people constantly using it as a forum to argue?
:clap_hands: Was just about to post a similar request :clap_hands:
So back to transfer news but not FFC ., from Twitter.
Villa want Burn. If they sell a few. Don't see Wigan selling him without a big fee. So difficult all round.
Daniel Stacey
@DanielStacey736
Replying to @reluctantnicko
Cam Villa afford Dan Burn or is that just a false rumour? They surely can't pay 6 million for him
I love the wording of that tweet - "Don't see Wigan selling him without a big fee. So difficult all round". So not difficult at all then, Villa don't buy him. Simples.
Marcel_Gecov wants a house. If he sells his. Don't see Connells selling the house without a big fee. So difficult all round.
flagellation ??? empirical????
Are you sure you are on the correct website??
;)
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Still haggling for price then. Nice to see that we're talking around £20 million rather than the rumored £30 million though.
Luke garbutt has gone on loan to Oxford United, he's going backwards in his career
Ozan Turfan, who we are interested in has gotten a £2.5 million bid from Palace. At that price it seems like a bargain.
https://www.football.london/crystal-palace-fc/transfer-news/palace-make-bid-international-midfielder-14855081
Balotelli and Plea didn't turn up the first training session
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Balotelli and Plea didn't turn up the first training session
They are both at Wimbledon as guests of FFC. 064.gif 079.gif
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 02, 2018, 03:33:58 PM
Balotelli and Plea didn't turn up the first training session
They are both at Wimbledon as guests of FFC. 064.gif 079.gif
Did Shad buy the centre court without telling us?
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Balotelli and Plea didn't turn up the first training session
They are both at Wimbledon as guests of FFC. 064.gif 079.gif
Probably after some decent weather after suffering Nice.
Viera, who is OGC Nice's coach, has said that Plea's excuse is that he 'missed the plane to Nice' but he has no idea where Balotelli is. Unlike SuperMario to cause trouble!
Absolutely convinced we would announce one today......... refresh refresh refresh all day long and sweet fanny Adams!!
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 02, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Absolutely convinced we would announce one today......... refresh refresh refresh all day long and sweet fanny Adams!!
Is she the new tea lady at Motspur park. 075.gif
Rui Fonte's wearing the #17 (his Braga number) in the Pre-Season training videos/pictures, so you'd assume we've got a new #9 coming in soon.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 02, 2018, 05:42:17 PM
Rui Fonte's wearing the #17 (his Braga number) in the Pre-Season training videos/pictures, so you'd assume we've got a new #9 coming in soon.
I hope you're right!!! We've currently got 16 players in our squad. SIXTEEN!!! And that's including Button, Djalo, Cisse, Fonte and Woodrow.
The window closes in 38 days. First pre-season match in 5 days.
Yeah, I'm starting to panic...
It says on the Monday stuff feed that balotelli has left after his 2 year contract expired.
I'll be ridiculed for saying this and branded a miserable negative git but at this moment I am not at all happy with our transfer business.
It is the start of pre season and we have a squad of 16! Now is the time for the squad to gel and prepare for the start of the season and we have gaps in the squad in many positions.
The fact is we are not at all ready for the start of the season. Thankfully we have a month and 8 days to sort things out but our preseason is already compromised because there is so much to do with getting a squad together.
The staff dealing with transfers deserve to be criticised because as of now sweet nothing has been done to fill the gaps we can all blatantly see exist.
I would have wanted at least a couple of transfers in by now and no-one can say it can't be done because plenty of the other premiership teams have gone about their business successfully.
Not happy!
I'm neither panicking yet or getting hysterical- but I am a tad bemused. The World Cup is undoubtedly a distraction to doing business / but surely that can only apply to the international players involved. So - are we exclusively looking to recruit from those teams involved or are we just a bit hesitant to get in there and get. Few deals over the line? Wolves have clearly shown their intent - when will we show ours ?
Quote from: Rambler on July 02, 2018, 06:49:20 PM
I'll be ridiculed for saying this and branded a miserable negative git but at this moment I am not at all happy with our transfer business.
It is the start of pre season and we have a squad of 16! Now is the time for the squad to gel and prepare for the start of the season and we have gaps in the squad in many positions.
The fact is we are not at all ready for the start of the season. Thankfully we have a month and 8 days to sort things out but our preseason is already compromised because there is so much to do with getting a squad together.
The staff dealing with transfers deserve to be criticised because as of now sweet nothing has been done to fill the gaps we can all blatantly see exist.
I would have wanted at least a couple of transfers in by now and no-one can say it can't be done because plenty of the other premiership teams have gone about their business successfully.
Not happy!
Totally understand this viewpoint but will reserve judgement until the week is out. Can't claim to know exactly what our pre-season is looking like on the pitch but imagine will be mostly fitness related in the early few days. Players will have had summer programs and they will be being assessed/put through their paces. More important for new signings to come in when we work on shape and our triangles. That being said, i am on here refreshing far too much hoping for good news so my nerves are also starting to go.
Personally I'll only start panicking if we've still got a threadbare squad when we go to France in a couple weeks time. We usually don't make that many early signings and give the kids some proper game time in the first one or two friendlies to prove themselves like R. Sessegnon did against Brighton two years ago, and I think Jokanovic likes it that way to be honest (while he'd obviously want us to sign players at the same time).
The Crawley game especially, I'd expect us to give significant time (maybe even the full game) to S. Sessegnon, O'Riley, Edun, Norman etc.
? Wolves have clearly shown their intent - when will we show ours ?
Ruben Neves has signed a new 5 year contract today.
That does just not make sense to me. He could be playing Champions League this season, but he chooses to try to elevate Wolves to top 4???
Wolves,,,,,,, don't get it :023:
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 02, 2018, 07:40:44 PM
? Wolves have clearly shown their intent - when will we show ours ?
Ruben Neves has signed a new 5 year contract today.
That does just not make sense to me. He could be playing Champions League this season, but he chooses to try to elevate Wolves to top 4???
Wolves,,,,,,, don't get it :023:
If Wolves continue spending and strengthening they could be in Champions League this time next year
Leicester did it without spending loads
I am not yet panicking but I am concerned. I really think we need to have 3 or 4 key signings in place before Friday 13th! (I actually think this is a reasonable expectation i.e. end if next week). If we fail to meet this sort of deadline then we risk going away on our pre season tour with an incredibly weak squad and that just seems pointless, how can S J prepare for the premiership like this?
Would like us to go for takashi inui Japanese midfielder. Looks solid.
Something is happening tomorrow.😒
Quote from: General on July 02, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
Would like us to go for takashi inui Japanese midfielder. Looks solid.
Just signed for Real Betis so not happening.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
Something is happening tomorrow.😒
You are correct, they are expecting a lorry load of paper clips to be delivered, sorry two lorry loads.
Adama Traore has an 18m release clause according to the Sun. Would be cheaper than Cavaleiro.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2018, 01:05:22 AM
Adama Traore has an 18m release clause according to the Sun. Would be cheaper than Cavaleiro.
The guy has absolutely zero end product...and that was in the championship....we can do way better
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2018, 01:05:22 AM
Adama Traore has an 18m release clause according to the Sun. Would be cheaper than Cavaleiro.
The guy has absolutely zero end product...and that was in the championship....we can do way better
This myth that he has zero end product needs to stop. You can say he needs to be more consistent with his end product, especially with how often he gets into good positions because of his pace and physicality- but getting 5 goals and 10 assists last season when he didn't play for the first two months or so of the season is pretty good going for a winger.
Personally I think he'd be a good balance on the other wing to Sessegnon in that they offer completely different things as wingers. Plus I think Jokanovic could coach and improve him.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 02, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
Something is happening tomorrow.😒
You are correct, they are expecting a lorry load of paper clips to be delivered, sorry two lorry loads.
Its getting near the time for me to get the sleeping bag out and move into the bushes at Motspur..😊
Talksport......Spurs and Leicester drop out of Grealish hunt,leaving Fulham head of queue.
Adrian Durham been reading Brazil's tea leaves again😵
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 03, 2018, 01:05:22 AM
Adama Traore has an 18m release clause according to the Sun. Would be cheaper than Cavaleiro.
The guy has absolutely zero end product...and that was in the championship....we can do way better
This myth that he has zero end product needs to stop. You can say he needs to be more consistent with his end product, especially with how often he gets into good positions because of his pace and physicality- but getting 5 goals and 10 assists last season when he didn't play for the first two months or so of the season is pretty good going for a winger.
Personally I think he'd be a good balance on the other wing to Sessegnon in that they offer completely different things as wingers. Plus I think Jokanovic could coach and improve him.
5 goals and 10 assists last season isn't bad - only 4 goals and 1 assist less than Aluko got for us in that same league / position the season before.
Not saying Traore isn't a good player as he clearly has ability - but putting into context what £18m seems to buy you at the moment. Personally I'd want more for that money.
If it came down to £18m for Traore or £4m for Aluko I'd rather the latter, and ideally a right sided forward who's worth £18m+ and likely will get more goals / assists than Traore at that price.
Joe Bennett from Cardiff? I think that would be a decent signing
Quote from: MrFFC on July 03, 2018, 10:09:45 AM
Joe Bennett from Cardiff? I think that would be a decent signing
Purely speculation but was in South Kensington with his agent yesterday with the caption "A good day" Seems we've missed out on Targett as Southampton don't want to sell but were after Bennett this time last year and he had a great season so maybe something in it? I'd be keen.
Here's the tweet https://twitter.com/GavJinx10/status/1014037442242994176
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 03, 2018, 08:06:17 AM
Talksport......Spurs and Leicester drop out of Grealish hunt,leaving Fulham head of queue.
Adrian Durham been reading Brazil's tea leaves again😵
Would someone explain why Spurs would be interested in him anyway. 3 goals in the championship last season and 5 the season before... sorry I don't get it...
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 03, 2018, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 03, 2018, 10:09:45 AM
Joe Bennett from Cardiff? I think that would be a decent signing
Purely speculation but was in South Kensington with his agent yesterday with the caption "A good day" Seems we've missed out on Targett as Southampton don't want to sell but were after Bennett this time last year and he had a great season so maybe something in it? I'd be keen.
Here's the tweet https://twitter.com/GavJinx10/status/1014037442242994176
If he needs a blanket to warm him up I'm not sure I want him.
Chambers just confirmed he's signed a long term contract with Arsenal. have to say, I think it's pretty poor of the club to start off pre season training with only 16 players in the squad. No idea what Slav would make of it but if I was him, I wouldn't be overly keen to signing up long term with this presented to me. Really surprised we haven't shown a little metal in closing some signings at least. Poor show.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2018, 10:57:04 AM
Chambers just confirmed he's signed a long term contract with Arsenal. have to say, I think it's pretty poor of the club to start off pre season training with only 16 players in the squad. No idea what Slav would make of it but if I was him, I wouldn't be overly keen to signing up long term with this presented to me. Really surprised we haven't shown a little metal in closing some signings at least. Poor show.
slav not signing is my major concern and understand his feelings looking round at the bare squad of players and thinking to himself why is it the same every pre season.
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or what efforts the club is making to bring in players.
Quote from: RaySmith on July 03, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or what efforts the club is making to bring in players.
Never said I did. I just look at the facts. We are the most desperate team in terms of squad size and need to strengthen in the EPL currently and we have signed no players as pre season starts whereas other teams with bigger squads have already made signings.
Quote from: RaySmith on July 03, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or what efforts the club is making to bring in players.
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Can't be pessimistic yet, we have no idea what is going on and can only guess. Two weeks time and no signings fair play to anyone who wants moan.
COYW
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 03, 2018, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on July 03, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or what efforts the club is making to bring in players.
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Can't be pessimistic yet, we have no idea what is going on and can only guess. Two weeks time and no signings fair play to anyone who wants moan.
COYW
I don't 'want' to moan. I just think its a poor show to our current manager starting off pre season with half a squad and a weaker squad than we ended last year with too after a very successful promotion season. I'd of thought loan players would of at least been signed by now .
@FFC1987
I share your thoughts. For sure we know nothing because nothing is what has happened and it is not as if our recruitment team has gone fishing and successfully landed prize catches whenever the need has arisen. I worry these bods inadvertently scare the fish away and are not, for obvious as well as not so obvious factors, aware of the reasons why.
I also worry that our preparatory work behind the scenes causes a very important lag to the important work our coaching staffs must do to achieve the best start they can to a season.
However it is what it is and one can only hope that, four thousand miles away, Mr Khan has stopped drinking Champagne and started to get a little anxious too. He may wish to consider what one early and major signing in a window would do for everybody's confidence in what happens at FFC.
Fulham closing in on £20m signing of Aleksandar Mitrovic
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2018/07/03/TELEMMGLPICT000167757932_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqC_LLCXkS_z-CZqgOMP7Be7IxNA0IYSA_4uFP8cJiKB0.jpeg?imwidth=1400)
Aleksandr Mitrovic's Serbia were eliminated at the World Cup group stage CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
Fulham expect to be able to complete the signing of Newcastle United striker Aleksandar Mitrovic when the Serbia international returns from holiday.
Telegraph Sport understands that the London club believe they have agreed a fee in principle with the Magpies hierarchy, although there are still details to thrash out over the terms of the payment. Mitrovic has gone away for a short break after Serbia were knocked out of the World Cup at the end of the group stage, but Fulham have already held talks with Newcastle about signing him this summer.
That deal is likely to go through before the end of the month, with Fulham set to break their transfer record to land the 23-year-old. Newcastle have been asking for around £20 million for the striker, which would dwarf the £12.4m Fulham paid Olymipacos for Greece international Konstantinos Mitroglou back in 2014.
Mitrovic scored 12 goals in just 17 games for the Cottagers as they secure promotion to the Premier League via the play-offs during a successful loan spell last season.
The money from the sale of Mitrovic should aid Newcastle in their own recruitment plans, although it is not thought there will be any more signings made before the start of pre-season training on Thursday.
Newcastle have had a bid rejected for Nice striker Alassane Plea, who is valued at around £27m, with West Ham also in the hunt to sign the 25-year-old. The Magpies have been told to raise their offer or lose out on the player, who is keen to play for manager Rafael Benitez at St James' Park.
West Ham, though, have offered a more preferable deal to his French club at this stage, which puts the pressure on Newcastle's managing director, Lee Charnley, to come up with a better offer for the former France Under-21 international.
Newcastle are also trying to land Chelsea winger Kenedy for around £20m and the player is keen to sign for the club permanently after spending the second-half of last season on loan on Tyneside. However, a potential stumbling block in those negotiations is that Chelsea will insist on a buy back clause in his contract.
Those talks are being slowed, though, by the managerial confusion at Stamford Bridge, with Antonie Conte still officially in charge even though former Napoli boss Maurizio Sarri has been lined up to replace him before the start of the season.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/03/fulham-closing-20m-signing-aleksandar-mitrovic/
Quote from: RaySmith on July 03, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or what efforts the club is making to bring in players.
Quite right, we don't know!
But you would expect any well run club would have had a plan in place before the Final for if we went up or stayed in the Championship.
I accept you can't always get what you want but in the case of all the loan players, any we are keen on should be signed up ASAP.
As for brand new recruits (of whom we need plenty) ideally everything needs to be in place with a couple of weeks to spare before the big kick off.
All that's pretty obvious but some positive action by the Lyon game would be a good sign.
Bennett signs contract extension at Cardiff. - Skysports
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2018, 12:15:29 PM
Bennett signs contract extension at Cardiff. - Skysports
Best news of the window so far for us!
haha agreed. Really don't rate the guy tbh......
Quote from: twang on July 03, 2018, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 03, 2018, 12:15:29 PM
Bennett signs contract extension at Cardiff. - Skysports
Best news of the window so far for us!
Yeah, Bennett is a player I don't get the hype for. Bang average championship player.
In previous years, as I recall, among those who believed the Club to be tardy in its transfer business, having all our players in by the start of the season always seemed to be the rule of thumb for good preparation. Now the transfer window closes earlier, it seems this is no longer good enough.
Just to remind people of the FST Notes of the June meeting with FFC;
TRANSFER DEALINGS AND RECRUITMENT.
AM said the club were making good progress with regards to acquiring targets in the transfer market for the coming season. The system for recruiting would remain the same as in January, although he expected that the completion of deals may well be delayed by the World Cup. The club were actively looking to sign the right players as soon as possible, especially given the earlier end date of the summer transfer window this season.
HAVE FAITH.
Jordy clasie is still a Southampton player. I wondered if anybody would go for him as backup to our midfielders. International player, good on the ball, he'd certainly fit the way we play.
Any idea why it hasn't worked for him at Southampton?
'Deal in principle' agreed for Mitrovic according to Football.london
What does that even mean?
Being slower than the rest and being careful in the crazy transfer window isn't a bad thing. But being as lethargic as we are really hurts our preseason preparation. It showed last season and I fear it will show this season again. We are in a new league, arguably the best league in the world, and a good preperation is crucial to stand a chance.
I was at last year's summer camp in Austria, watching most of our training sessions. If it wasn't for our plethora of goalkeepers and many youth players - some of them I've never seen or heard of again - team training wouldn't have been possible at all. The quality level was dreadful. The likes of Cairney and McDonald having to do passing drills with our goalkeepers, duping youth players and our defenders battling Woodrow as the only striker available. Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 03, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
'Deal in principle' agreed for Mitrovic according to Football.london
What does that even mean?
no idea??
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 03, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
'Deal in principle' agreed for Mitrovic according to Football.london
What does that even mean?
Contract agreed maybe. Though isn't that against the rules?
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 03, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
'Deal in principle' agreed for Mitrovic according to Football.london
What does that even mean?
They've agreed on a price but not how it's going to be paid. Just because you sign someone in a deal worth £20m doesn't necessarily mean there will be an up front payment of the whole thing, as I understand it they're working through how to structure the payments as it gives us more wiggle room to spend more money this summer if you pay a lower up front price owing to how the books will look when we submit finances next year.
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
Of course the Club may have had a few players 'lined up' ready to sign and Joka has said 'No-thanks'?
It is all guesswork.
We all want new players / a bigger squad. No-one can really believe that FFC are happy to drift along not buying after the four years of waiting to get back into the top flight.
I would rather we wait and get the right people rather than rush out and spend stupid money on just about anyone, or no-bodies, who will not benefit the club.
If we had signed 4 or 5 players, people would be on here slagging them off and saying we have bought rubbish / Championship at best / over the hill / unproven --- etc etc players.
It is in no-ones interests to half a thread bare squad, but people are very quick to assume that the club are simply bumbling along doing nothing.
Have a little faith and enjoy the world Cup!!
COYW
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Being slower than the rest and being careful in the crazy transfer window isn't a bad thing. But being as lethargic as we are really hurts our preseason preparation. It showed last season and I fear it will show this season again. We are in a new league, arguably the best league in the world, and a good preperation is crucial to stand a chance.
I was at last year's summer camp in Austria, watching most of our training sessions. If it wasn't for our plethora of goalkeepers and many youth players - some of them I've never seen or heard of again - team training wouldn't have been possible at all. The quality level was dreadful. The likes of Cairney and McDonald having to do passing drills with our goalkeepers, duping youth players and our defenders battling Woodrow as the only striker available. Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
I recognize that fans are entitled to their belief that they know better than those employed to do the job, but I do find highly amusing the picture this post paints of a casual observer tearing his hair on the touchline at the gross incompetence being displayed beyond.
The party that was taken to Austria (which included almost all those involved in getting promotion - presumably the ultimate objective at the time these training shananigans were taking place) was: Betts, Button, Rodak, Freddo, Djalo, Ream, McDonald, Cairney, Cisse, Johansen, Piazon, Aluko, Woodrow, Ayite, Sigurdsson. The 'many' youth players were : Opoku (who was injured in the Checkatrade match v Pompey in August and was not seen out again), O'Riley (who made a first team debut in a season curtailed by injury), Edun (who also made a first team debut and was in and around the squad most of the season, and R. Sessegnon (not sure what became of him, but I'm sure he derived some benefit from the fiasco).
Just to show that appearances can be deceptive I append a photo of the manager doing his best to hide his unhappiness in Austria:
(http://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2017_18_pre_season/austria_day_2/dsc_0072.JPG?w=942&h=530)
Patrick Roberts going from Man City to Leicester for £15 million apparently.
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2018, 03:24:27 PM
Patrick Roberts going from Man City to Leicester for £15 million apparently.
Potential add-ons perhaps?
Should stayed with us, back to the same level again
Every time I saw Jordy Clasie in a Saints shirt, he just seemed really lacking to be honest. Constant sideways passing, never forward, and just not a decent presence in a deeper CM role. He didn't really look like a grafter who wins you the ball back or a player that lieks to find the ST/AM in the hole between the defence and midfield. Hes been really disappointing considering how, before Saints, he looked technically as good as anyone around. I also heard hes making a move abroad....
I think people on here need to appreciate that one can be disappointed in no signings as of this moment, whilst still having faith for the start of the season. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 03, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
Of course the Club may have had a few players 'lined up' ready to sign and Joka has said 'No-thanks'?
It is all guesswork.
We all want new players / a bigger squad. No-one can really believe that FFC are happy to drift along not buying after the four years of waiting to get back into the top flight.
I would rather we wait and get the right people rather than rush out and spend stupid money on just about anyone, or no-bodies, who will not benefit the club.
If we had signed 4 or 5 players, people would be on here slagging them off and saying we have bought rubbish / Championship at best / over the hill / unproven --- etc etc players.
It is in no-ones interests to half a thread bare squad, but people are very quick to assume that the club are simply bumbling along
doing nothing.
Have a little faith and enjoy the world Cup!!
COYW
Surely the Club should not be lining players up before the HC has given the green light that he likes them?
I think many on here don't think the club are bumbling along doing nothing, the perception is that they are very busy but not using their time wisely!
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on July 03, 2018, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 03, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
Of course the Club may have had a few players 'lined up' ready to sign and Joka has said 'No-thanks'?
It is all guesswork.
We all want new players / a bigger squad. No-one can really believe that FFC are happy to drift along not buying after the four years of waiting to get back into the top flight.
I would rather we wait and get the right people rather than rush out and spend stupid money on just about anyone, or no-bodies, who will not benefit the club.
If we had signed 4 or 5 players, people would be on here slagging them off and saying we have bought rubbish / Championship at best / over the hill / unproven --- etc etc players.
It is in no-ones interests to half a thread bare squad, but people are very quick to assume that the club are simply bumbling along
doing nothing.
Have a little faith and enjoy the world Cup!!
COYW
Surely the Stats/scouting team should not be lining players up before the HC has given the green light that he likes them?
I think many on here don't think the club are bumbling along doing nothing, the perception is that they are very busy but not using their time wisely!
I originally made the criticism today of no signings within a club/squad that is currently the most desperate/small in the EPL. I think everyone involved is super busy but for whatever reason, we haven't signed players. If I was to wager a guess, it would be over price and us not willing to pay even slightly over the odds at the early stage of negotiations. Total guess though. I don't think we have staff twiddling thumbs and sitting on their backsides but maybe, at this stage, being inflexible on paying by any means, over the odds.
If we can get mitro ,with extended contracts for Tc and Sess,then things will really start .To me it tends to suggest that Joka isnt desperate to replace that many players in our starting line up . Maybe three, with the addition over 3 to 4 more who can start matches being addded nearer the close of the window.
Quote from: colinwhite on July 03, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
If we can get mitro ,with extended contracts for Tc and Sess,then things will really start .To me it tends to suggest that Joka isnt desperate to replace that many players in our starting line up . Maybe three, with the addition over 3 to 4 more who can start matches being addded nearer the close of the window.
A lot may also hang on fact that we 'expect' to re-sign most of our loanees?
Piazon / Targett (not looking good though) / Kalas / Mitro etc...
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 03, 2018, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 03, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
If we can get mitro ,with extended contracts for Tc and Sess,then things will really start .To me it tends to suggest that Joka isnt desperate to replace that many players in our starting line up . Maybe three, with the addition over 3 to 4 more who can start matches being addded nearer the close of the window.
A lot may also hang on fact that we 'expect' to re-sign most of our loanees?
Piazon / Targett (not looking good though) / Kalas / Mitro etc...
For me, that's almost definitely the case. I expected us to sign Kalas/Piazon/Targett/Mitro at the least hence why I think our current squad is clearly weaker as of this moment too when we start pre season.
Kalas/ piazon stalling because of Conte situation I guess ,as for targett think staying at saints,mitro is the one that will get over the line,it's just when?
Quote from: ollienixs on July 03, 2018, 03:31:06 PM
Should stayed with us, back to the same level again
He in no way at all should have stayed with us. Following that season we finished 17th, we were in no mans land, Patrick made around 20 appearances mostly off the bench, and some team came in offering millions for him and us.
In the years that followed, we invested that money in buying a team rather than focussing on individuals, and he ended up winning plenty of trophies no matter what level; and I'm sure he's being well paid by the oil money in Manchester. Worked out for him, worked out for us
And although they missed out on Europe, I doubt many people think we're on the same level as Leicester. If we were, we would have spent 50millon this summer as well as having 6 players in the knockout stages of the World Cup.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 03, 2018, 03:31:06 PM
Should stayed with us, back to the same level again
To be fair Leicester are considerably ahead of us. They're aiming top 6.
Quote from: Riversider on July 03, 2018, 03:24:27 PM
Patrick Roberts going from Man City to Leicester for £15 million apparently.
It does seem odd as they have already spent £25m on James Maddison.
I know they don't play in exactly the same position but they're not millions of miles apart in some respects.
If a player is really worth us signing (Mitro) his club are going to want to extract as much money as they can. We on the other hand are going to try and get him for a little as necessary as we will have a budget for signings as well as wages and want to get the best we can within that budget.
It's a bit like going onto eBay where the final day for bidding is when the window shuts.
If the selling club are happy to take what you are offering, ina ll likelihood, that said player is potentially not going to be very good or you are offering too much.
Unless you are happy to just go in and pay over the odds, this process all takes time.
You have agents trying to extract as much for the player as well and the player may want to go to a bigger or other club for many reasons.
It's all very complicated and difficult to get right.
Yes, it's essential we sign in certain areas and of course we will. Whether we can get the right players at the right price is the key. We don't HAVE to sign 8-10 new players although that would be nice, what we HAVE to do is sign 4-5 starting players of the right quality, eg bloody good and who play those positions we most need to strengthen.
One slightly interesting thing I worked out in the absence of any transfer dealings. Newly promoted teams haven't stuck with the same Keeper that brought them up pretty much across the board with the exception of Burnley in the last 4 or 5 years.
Wolves and Cardiff have already signed replacements in Rui Patricio and Alex Smithies (although Smithies isn't necessarily guaranteed to be #1)
Brighton signed Mat Ryan, Huddersfield signed Lossl and Newcastle went back and forth between Darlow and Elliott until they signed Dubravka in January
Burnley stuck with Heaton, Boro signed Victor Valdes, Hull signed David Marshall and he ended up being in and out with Jakupovic (neither of which played for Hull in the season before)
and then the season before was the only time in recent years all three stuck with their Keeper (Watford/Gomes, Bournemouth/Boruc, Norwich/Ruddy)
All this is to say, the difference in Keeper required in the respective divisions is massive and I'd be curious to see if we bucked the trend and stuck with Bettinelli as #1.
That's all gone quiet...Krul in Button out.😁
Regarding the transfer situation at the moment, or this board at times!
You can please SOME of the people ALL of the time.
You can please ALL of the people SOME of the time.
But you cannot please ALL of the people ALL of the time.
Just like BREXIT!!
What keeps the debate going as to the extent of the Club's ineptitude in transfer dealings is that none of us know enough to be too sure of our opinion. Eddie Howe's statement may be an indication of where the balance of probability lies:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11743/11425041/eddie-howe-says-bournemouth-face-diffulct-transfer-window
Eddie Howe admits Bournemouth face a "difficult" summer in the transfer market as he looked to reinforce his squad ahead of the new Premier League season.
The Cherries have made one key signing since the end of last season - midfielder David Brooks joining from Sheffield United on a four-year deal.
Bournemouth saw a £10m bid for Brentford defender Chris Mepham rejected last month and Howe admits recruitment has been a struggle, partly due to the ongoing World Cup in Russia.
"This transfer window has been difficult," he said. "Transfer fees as always tend to go northwards, with the World Cup year and the window closing earlier.
"From the manager's perspective, you want to get the players in as early as you can to work with them and build your team for pre-season.
"This year is perhaps the first season where we haven't been able to do that. Certainly between now and the start of the season we will be active and looking to do business."
Howe seemingly ruled out a move for Jack Wilshere, who is currently a free agent after leaving boyhood club Arsenal.
"I've said many times that we love Jack but financially it might be a difficult one for us," he added.
Lee Grant has signed for Man Utd... next up David Button signs for Barcelona 😳
Mark Fotheringham to Real Madrid
Fonte to Newcastle in exchange for Mitrovic, please.
Quote from: cmg on July 03, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Being slower than the rest and being careful in the crazy transfer window isn't a bad thing. But being as lethargic as we are really hurts our preseason preparation. It showed last season and I fear it will show this season again. We are in a new league, arguably the best league in the world, and a good preperation is crucial to stand a chance.
I was at last year's summer camp in Austria, watching most of our training sessions. If it wasn't for our plethora of goalkeepers and many youth players - some of them I've never seen or heard of again - team training wouldn't have been possible at all. The quality level was dreadful. The likes of Cairney and McDonald having to do passing drills with our goalkeepers, duping youth players and our defenders battling Woodrow as the only striker available. Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
I recognize that fans are entitled to their belief that they know better than those employed to do the job, but I do find highly amusing the picture this post paints of a casual observer tearing his hair on the touchline at the gross incompetence being displayed beyond.
The party that was taken to Austria (which included almost all those involved in getting promotion - presumably the ultimate objective at the time these training shananigans were taking place) was: Betts, Button, Rodak, Freddo, Djalo, Ream, McDonald, Cairney, Cisse, Johansen, Piazon, Aluko, Woodrow, Ayite, Sigurdsson. The 'many' youth players were : Opoku (who was injured in the Checkatrade match v Pompey in August and was not seen out again), O'Riley (who made a first team debut in a season curtailed by injury), Edun (who also made a first team debut and was in and around the squad most of the season, and R. Sessegnon (not sure what became of him, but I'm sure he derived some benefit from the fiasco).
Just to show that appearances can be deceptive I append a photo of the manager doing his best to hide his unhappiness in Austria:
(http://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2017_18_pre_season/austria_day_2/dsc_0072.JPG?w=942&h=530)
This is so ridiculous. Of course they are smiling in this picture: the weather was beautiful in this lovely place. Jokane was smiling too when we took photos with him, and when we asked him when the club is gonna finally sign a striker he laughed and said everything is alright. Good dry Serb sarcasm. Btw in the photo that's not even the main pitch but a smaller pitch where the goalkeepers worked out after the regular sessions. I was there at every training session and looked at Jokane collapsing internally when in most shooting drills nobody could hit the net, or when they had to involve all the goalkeepers and assistant coaches to have enough players for a complicated passing drill with attacking movements, leaving the goal empty. Only thing you got right is youth players, it was mainly Opoku who has now disappeared. O'Riley in fact stood out for his age and showed off good skills. Long story made short, I was there for all camp and you could tell Jokane was not amused about the small squad. It was made worse by several players, including Cairney, Freddo, Madl, sitting out at some point due to injuries and then our practice looked even bleaker.
I'm just hoping we get some key players signed soon. Can't go into summer camp and work intensely on tactics with a group like that again. When you're missing so many key players at this stage of preparation, you will suffer for 2 or 3 months until you can build good chemistry. If we go into camp with our current group, it's a mere movement therapy more than anything else. Camp should be about our key players growing together.
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 11:24:18 PM
...This is so ridiculous....
You would, perhaps, find it a little less ridiculous if you read (and understood) what I have written.
Perhaps the manager's dry Serb sarcasm is easier to interpret than my damp, British variety.
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: cmg on July 03, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: Madman Maddle on July 03, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Being slower than the rest and being careful in the crazy transfer window isn't a bad thing. But being as lethargic as we are really hurts our preseason preparation. It showed last season and I fear it will show this season again. We are in a new league, arguably the best league in the world, and a good preperation is crucial to stand a chance.
I was at last year's summer camp in Austria, watching most of our training sessions. If it wasn't for our plethora of goalkeepers and many youth players - some of them I've never seen or heard of again - team training wouldn't have been possible at all. The quality level was dreadful. The likes of Cairney and McDonald having to do passing drills with our goalkeepers, duping youth players and our defenders battling Woodrow as the only striker available. Somehow Jokane worked his magic to overcome it, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he has to go through the same circus again this season, it won't end well.
I recognize that fans are entitled to their belief that they know better than those employed to do the job, but I do find highly amusing the picture this post paints of a casual observer tearing his hair on the touchline at the gross incompetence being displayed beyond.
The party that was taken to Austria (which included almost all those involved in getting promotion - presumably the ultimate objective at the time these training shananigans were taking place) was: Betts, Button, Rodak, Freddo, Djalo, Ream, McDonald, Cairney, Cisse, Johansen, Piazon, Aluko, Woodrow, Ayite, Sigurdsson. The 'many' youth players were : Opoku (who was injured in the Checkatrade match v Pompey in August and was not seen out again), O'Riley (who made a first team debut in a season curtailed by injury), Edun (who also made a first team debut and was in and around the squad most of the season, and R. Sessegnon (not sure what became of him, but I'm sure he derived some benefit from the fiasco).
Just to show that appearances can be deceptive I append a photo of the manager doing his best to hide his unhappiness in Austria:
(http://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2017_18_pre_season/austria_day_2/dsc_0072.JPG?w=942&h=530)
This is so ridiculous. Of course they are smiling in this picture: the weather was beautiful in this lovely place. Jokane was smiling too when we took photos with him, and when we asked him when the club is gonna finally sign a striker he laughed and said everything is alright. Good dry Serb sarcasm. Btw in the photo that's not even the main pitch but a smaller pitch where the goalkeepers worked out after the regular sessions. I was there at every training session and looked at Jokane collapsing internally when in most shooting drills nobody could hit the net, or when they had to involve all the goalkeepers and assistant coaches to have enough players for a complicated passing drill with attacking movements, leaving the goal empty. Only thing you got right is youth players, it was mainly Opoku who has now disappeared. O'Riley in fact stood out for his age and showed off good skills. Long story made short, I was there for all camp and you could tell Jokane was not amused about the small squad. It was made worse by several players, including Cairney, Freddo, Madl, sitting out at some point due to injuries and then our practice looked even bleaker.
I'm just hoping we get some key players signed soon. Can't go into summer camp and work intensely on tactics with a group like that again. When you're missing so many key players at this stage of preparation, you will suffer for 2 or 3 months until you can build good chemistry. If we go into camp with our current group, it's a mere movement therapy more than anything else. Camp should be about our key players growing together.
MM great post.
Quote from: cmg on July 03, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
I recognize that fans are entitled to their belief that they know better than those employed to do the job, but I do find highly amusing the picture this post paints of a casual observer tearing his hair on the touchline at the gross incompetence being displayed beyond.
The party that was taken to Austria (which included almost all those involved in getting promotion - presumably the ultimate objective at the time these training shananigans were taking place) was: Betts, Button, Rodak, Freddo, Djalo, Ream, McDonald, Cairney, Cisse, Johansen, Piazon, Aluko, Woodrow, Ayite, Sigurdsson. The 'many' youth players were : Opoku (who was injured in the Checkatrade match v Pompey in August and was not seen out again), O'Riley (who made a first team debut in a season curtailed by injury), Edun (who also made a first team debut and was in and around the squad most of the season, and R. Sessegnon (not sure what became of him, but I'm sure he derived some benefit from the fiasco).
Just to show that appearances can be deceptive I append a photo of the manager doing his best to hide his unhappiness in Austria:
You choose to criticise one poster for misrepresentation and follow it up with your own version of said activity. Two wrongs are just two wrongs.
The test of any pre-season or transfer window comes from what happens from the first match immediately following the closure of said window. I look at last winter's window and see Targett and Mitrovic slotting into the line up instantly, and Christie doing no mean impersonation of feeling at home either. That is what every window and pre-season should be like. The question is why are so many not like that and I don't see your post even touching upon answering that question.
Now if our recruitment come up with multiple selection auto-fits on day one of the 2018/9 campaign then I think the sweat on Jokanovic's brow is not from frustration but from sheer hard work getting the team to the best level it can reach until the next training session begins - and so on. I hope the Kline nightmare is over but I also hope we use Jokanovic as the inspired reason for any player choosing to come to FFC because they won't ever be coming to gaze at the wonders of our recruitment team.
Mmmm...
The point of my post, such as it was, was to express my personal reacton to what I perceived as the arrogance (or, perhaps, naivety) of MM to believe that a few days presence on the touchline of a training session in Austria somehow gave him a valid insight into the inner thoughts of the manager and the operational incompetence of the management regarding recruitment.
I make no comment on the current transfer situation because a) I believe it is too early to do so, and b) there is no shortage of such comment on a daily basis.
The picture was obviously a joke...Well, not obviously, obviously. I captioned it with 'appearances can be deceptive.' Obviously (again) a poor joke if I have to explain it.
Quote from: toshes mate on July 04, 2018, 08:16:38 AM
Quote from: cmg on July 03, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
I recognize that fans are entitled to their belief that they know better than those employed to do the job, but I do find highly amusing the picture this post paints of a casual observer tearing his hair on the touchline at the gross incompetence being displayed beyond.
The party that was taken to Austria (which included almost all those involved in getting promotion - presumably the ultimate objective at the time these training shananigans were taking place) was: Betts, Button, Rodak, Freddo, Djalo, Ream, McDonald, Cairney, Cisse, Johansen, Piazon, Aluko, Woodrow, Ayite, Sigurdsson. The 'many' youth players were : Opoku (who was injured in the Checkatrade match v Pompey in August and was not seen out again), O'Riley (who made a first team debut in a season curtailed by injury), Edun (who also made a first team debut and was in and around the squad most of the season, and R. Sessegnon (not sure what became of him, but I'm sure he derived some benefit from the fiasco).
Just to show that appearances can be deceptive I append a photo of the manager doing his best to hide his unhappiness in Austria:
You choose to criticise one poster for misrepresentation and follow it up with your own version of said activity. Two wrongs are just two wrongs.
The test of any pre-season or transfer window comes from what happens from the first match immediately following the closure of said window. I look at last winter's window and see Targett and Mitrovic slotting into the line up instantly, and Christie doing no mean impersonation of feeling at home either. That is what every window and pre-season should be like. The question is why are so many not like that and I don't see your post even touching upon answering that question.
Now if our recruitment come up with multiple selection auto-fits on day one of the 2018/9 campaign then I think the sweat on Jokanovic's brow is not from frustration but from sheer hard work getting the team to the best level it can reach until the next training session begins - and so on. I hope the Kline nightmare is over but I also hope we use Jokanovic as the inspired reason for any player choosing to come to FFC because they won't ever be coming to gaze at the wonders of our recruitment team.
Targett, Mitrovic and Christie all had experience from English football so I would expect them to settle in fast. But I have a feeling we are targetting players from other leagues and they may need more time. In some cases a LOT more time.
I know everything is delayed because of the world cup but this hasn't prevented the other relegation candidates to sign 2-4 players. And yes, I said "the OTHER" relegation candidate because with our current squad we are without doubt the number one favourite to go down. We have lost seven player from a Championship squad that was always 2-3 injuries/suspensions away from disaster. Our squad was dangerously thin in several positions last season. This is easy to forget after such an amazing end to the season.
We need to either strengthen or to add depth in almost every position. We'll probably need at least 10 players. Of course we shouldn't sign players just to add numbers to the squad. Hopefully the waiting means we are targetting better players than Cardiff/Huddersfield/etc. But time is running out. It's no good signing a lot of quality players during the last two weeks. If we start this season as unprepared as the last one we WILL go down. There's no way we can pull off anything remotely close to our unbeaten run in the PL. Poor start = disaster.
And what's this I'm reading about Mitrovic joining us "by the end of the month"? What kind of deal is that? The only answer I can think of is that there's NO deal yet and other clubs can still outbid us and steal him from under our noses when it's too late to find a proper replacement.
Sorry about the negativity, I really needed to get that out of my system, feeling better now. :005:
And I DO look forward to the start of the season, no matter what !!!! 049:gif
Quote from: cmg on July 04, 2018, 09:48:06 AM
Mmmm...
The point of my post, such as it was, was to express my personal reacton to what I perceived as the arrogance (or, perhaps, naivety) of MM to believe that a few days presence on the touchline of a training session in Austria somehow gave him a valid insight into the inner thoughts of the manager and the operational incompetence of the management regarding recruitment.
I make no comment on the current transfer situation because a) I believe it is too early to do so, and b) there is no shortage of such comment on a daily basis.
The picture was obviously a joke...Well, not obviously, obviously. I captioned it with 'appearances can be deceptive.' Obviously (again) a poor joke if I have to explain it.
I'm sorry to have irritated you. Don't wanted to sound arrogant or something like that. Just wanted to share my first hand experience. I know a thing or two about football. The state of the squad at that time affected training in a bad way. Anybody with a little bit human and football sense could tell that neither our key players nor Jokane were happy with it.
As for the pic, I misread your description and thought you meant it serious. :doh:
To share another story, when Kit Symons was in charge it was even worse. They were literally practicing booting the ball out of play for a whole session! Jokane's training is all about playing with the ball. At least it was a joy to watch McCormack and Mitroglou, who left a few days later, hitting 99% of their shots. But we've come a long way since then and I fear that irritating Jokane with a lame transfer window could set us back again.
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Quote from: cmg on July 04, 2018, 09:48:06 AM
Mmmm...
The point of my post, such as it was, was to express my personal reacton to what I perceived as the arrogance (or, perhaps, naivety) of MM to believe that a few days presence on the touchline of a training session in Austria somehow gave him a valid insight into the inner thoughts of the manager and the operational incompetence of the management regarding recruitment.
I make no comment on the current transfer situation because a) I believe it is too early to do so, and b) there is no shortage of such comment on a daily basis.
The picture was obviously a joke...Well, not obviously, obviously. I captioned it with 'appearances can be deceptive.' Obviously (again) a poor joke if I have to explain it.
I'm sorry to have irritated you. Don't wanted to sound arrogant or something like that. Just wanted to share my first hand experience. I know a thing or two about football. The state of the squad at that time affected training in a bad way. Anybody with a little bit human and football sense could tell that neither our key players nor Jokane were happy with it.
As for the pic, I misread your description and thought you meant it serious. :doh:
To share another story, when Kit Symons was in charge it was even worse. They were literally practicing booting the ball out of play for a whole session! Jokane's training is all about playing with the ball. At least it was a joy to watch McCormack and Mitroglou, who left a few days later, hitting 99% of their shots. But we've come a long way since then and I fear that irritating Jokane with a lame transfer window could set us back again.
Thanks for your reply. A very generous and amiable one.
I, too apologise, if I have ruffled any feathers.
Let's hope our recruitment turns out equally happily.
As for Symonds' training, 'booting the ball out of play' was my only constructive talent as a player (the other talent, for mistimed tackles could hardly be described as constructive) so I was obviously 40 years too late in my bid for stardom.
Are we there yet?
Quote from: filham on July 03, 2018, 10:33:52 PM
Fonte to Newcastle in exchange for Mitrovic, please.
How much did we pay for Fonte? And how much do you think he'd be worth now?
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Oh yeah...welp
From Sky Sports Transfer Centre:
FULHAM IN MITROVIC TALKS
Fulham are in talks with Newcastle to sign Aleksandar Mitrovic and are confident of concluding a deal for the striker, SSN understands.
The Magpies are prepared to sell the Serbian, who helped fire the Whites into the Premier League during an explosive loan spell last season, but want upwards of £20m for his transfer.
Crystal Palace have also been interested in Mitrovic, but the player is understood to want to continue his successful stay spell at Craven Cottage and Fulham are not concerned about rival bids at this stage.
Mitrovic enjoys a good relationship with the Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic - a fellow Serb – and scored 12 Championship goals after joining the club on loan on Deadline Day of the winter transfer window.
Newcastle, meanwhile, are interested in replacing Mitrovic with Nice striker Alessane Plea – also a name on Fulham's list – but face competition from West Ham.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
Quote from: Texas White on July 04, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
Quote from: corbs83 on July 04, 2018, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: Texas White on July 04, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
As a rule of thumb I would tend to disagree. I don't think anyone has a God-given right to an automatic place in the squad purely because they had one last year. If the manager considers all the players to be good enough for the higher division then fine, he will make that decision and will be judged on it, though I would be surprised if he thinks along those lines any more than Tigana did when we went up last time.
In slav I trust on player selection.
I don't necessarily think Fonte is a bad player just a "second striker" / number 10 who likes the drop deep and link up play appreciate he played as a lone striker for Braga or on the flanks but doesn't take much of a scouting department to realise he has neither the pace or physicality to play as either for us. Clear example of the transfer gurus (numpties) not listening to how Slav wants to play or the type of player we needed
Quote from: Texas White on July 04, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
What do you actually disagree with, that we purchased for around 10m or that we'd find a buyer for more than 4m?
Quote from: MrD1879 on July 04, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
I don't necessarily think Fonte is a bad player just a "second striker" / number 10 who likes the drop deep and link up play appreciate he played as a lone striker for Braga or on the flanks but doesn't take much of a scouting department to realise he has neither the pace or physicality to play as either for us. Clear example of the transfer gurus (numpties) not listening to how Slav wants to play or the type of player we needed
There's an easy way to tell which transfers were "Slav's guys" -- whether he continues to play them over other options. He totally buried guys like Mollo, Graham, Cisse and even Kebano, but kept playing Fonte, even in sub roles down the stretch. He also raved about Fonte when he arrived.
Every single piece of evidence points to Fonte being a Slav choice, but that doesn't fit the "analysts are numpties" narrative.
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Quote from: MrD1879 on July 04, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
I don't necessarily think Fonte is a bad player just a "second striker" / number 10 who likes the drop deep and link up play appreciate he played as a lone striker for Braga or on the flanks but doesn't take much of a scouting department to realise he has neither the pace or physicality to play as either for us. Clear example of the transfer gurus (numpties) not listening to how Slav wants to play or the type of player we needed
There's an easy way to tell which transfers were "Slav's guys" -- whether he continues to play them over other options. He totally buried guys like Mollo, Graham, Cisse and even Kebano, but kept playing Fonte, even in sub roles down the stretch. He also raved about Fonte when he arrived.
Every single piece of evidence points to Fonte being a Slav choice, but that doesn't fit the "analysts are numpties" narrative.
The answers you will get there is he had no one else.
But it's interesting that Mollo got game time and was then discarded when he went off the rails and didn't follow orders. But initially was being used and looked useful.
The LB Soares, I know the coaches were very pleased when he signed, he was rated by them. But working day in and day out with him they concluded no thanks.
But you are right, the rule of thumb seems to be all the good buys are Joka and the bad ones from stats. It's just not true
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Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
Oh yes, and I agree we will struggle to get 4 mil back on our investment.
One of our kids 17yo Djed Spence has signed for Middlesbrough.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
Agreed! How can a player so clearly out of his depth in the Championship be better in the Prem??? Possibly, just possibly in a different team, with different players around him, a different coach, in a different system. But in the same team, same tactics.. ??? I really can't see it happening. Apparently he did some positive stuff OFF the pitch but that's not enough to justify the wages he's on.
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Quote from: Texas White on July 04, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
Rumors that Edun is getting loaned out to Ipswich.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/33906
Quote from: Tabby on July 04, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
Rumors that Edun is getting loaned out to Ipswich.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/33906
It does suggest Edun is a wide man which he isn't
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 04, 2018, 04:38:56 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 04, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
Rumors that Edun is getting loaned out to Ipswich.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/33906
It does suggest Edun is a wide man which he isn't
He can be to be fair. Can play LB, LM and CM.
Craig Dawson has handed in a transfer request at West Brom and has not travelled with the squad on pre season.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11698/11426124/craig-dawson-hands-in-west-bromwich-albion-transfer-request
He could be a decent experienced addition to our defense? Especially for £4-5m.
Problem with that line of thinking is West Brom have already turned down 12m from West Ham and want 20m.
CARDIFF WANT BRYSON?
Cardiff City have agreed a fee with Derby County for midfielder Craig Bryson, according to Wales Online.
The 31-year-old Scottish midfielder has reportedly been subject of a £1.75m bid.
Oh dear, I'd rather nobody i think. Anyone disappointed we missed out?
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
Agreed! How can a player so clearly out of his depth in the Championship be better in the Prem??? Possibly, just possibly in a different team, with different players around him, a different coach, in a different system. But in the same team, same tactics.. ??? I really can't see it happening. Apparently he did some positive stuff OFF the pitch but that's not enough to justify the wages he's on.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
l can only say that he looks a waste of money,he's not the first and won't be the last no doubt ,
But I don't think he will be any better at PL level.
I do hope he is as he seems a good human being so I hope he proves me wrong!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5918359/amp/Aleksandar-Mitrovic-keen-rejoin-Fulham-20m-transfer.html
Quote from: mkras99 on July 04, 2018, 09:28:35 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5918359/amp/Aleksandar-Mitrovic-keen-rejoin-Fulham-20m-transfer.html
It's just the same story in a different dress. Won't be any actual movement with Mitrovic in terms of fees or a medical etc. until he's had his holiday which if I had to guess will be no earlier than this time next week given he went out of the World Cup this time last week.
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Quote from: mkras99 on July 04, 2018, 09:28:35 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5918359/amp/Aleksandar-Mitrovic-keen-rejoin-Fulham-20m-transfer.html
It's just the same story in a different dress. Won't be any actual movement with Mitrovic in terms of fees or a medical etc. until he's had his holiday which if I had to guess will be no earlier than this time next week given he went out of the World Cup this time last week.
It says that we had an offer rejected for Norwood as well, which was news to me at least.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
And who would you drop to make room for him?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5918359/amp/Aleksandar-Mitrovic-keen-rejoin-Fulham-20m-transfer.html
It's just the same story in a different dress. Won't be any actual movement with Mitrovic in terms of fees or a medical etc. until he's had his holiday which if I had to guess will be no earlier than this time next week given he went out of the World Cup this time last week.
It says that we had an offer rejected for Norwood as well, which was news to me at least.
I took that to be talking about when we had a bid rejected in January when we tried to make him permanent to free up a loan spot.
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I took that to be talking about when we had a bid rejected in January when we tried to make him permanent to free up a loan spot.
Oh yeah, we did make a bid then. Completely forgot.
Just seen a couple things on Twitter saying we are linked with Mussachio from AC Milan
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One of our kids 17yo Djed Spence has signed for Middlesbrough.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/june/12/player-departures
He was released so was free to sign for anyone, as was Dan Martin who has signed for Leeds after being released
Twitter:
'Fulham have started talks for 27 year old Argentinian centre back @MateoMusacchio5 with A.C. Milan according to @DiMarzio #ffc'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateo_Musacchio
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Twitter:
'Fulham have started talks for 27 year old Argentinian centre back @MateoMusacchio5 with A.C. Milan according to @DiMarzio #ffc'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateo_Musacchio
https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/milan-offerta-del-fulham-per-musacchio
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Twitter:
'Fulham have started talks for 27 year old Argentinian centre back @MateoMusacchio5 with A.C. Milan according to @DiMarzio #ffc'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateo_Musacchio
Would be a brilliant signing for us with our obvious need for a Centre-Back, and Milan need to sell with their finance problems. Plus he can't start for them understandably over Bonucci and Romagnoli. Really rated him when he was at Villarreal. Too logical all in all. Start scouring the Belgian 2nd Division.
Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
Would rather we went for Denayer than Boyata to be honest.
Musacchio definetly fits the mold of ball playing CB, but he has been a bit of a sick note for years now.
He's apparently very good; our physio/medical can get him back Into shape. Would be a great signing for us
If we are talking fee, I'd guess Milan are looking to get the €18 million they paid for him last summer or something in that price range. Despite having money trouble they haven't been conducting any fire sales yet.
Wiltshire has held talks with West Ham, Im still crossing my fingers we go in for him
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If we are talking fee, I'd guess Milan are looking to get the €18 million they paid for him last summer or something in that price range. Despite having money trouble they haven't been conducting any fire sales yet.
He'd be cheaper than that. Milan have to sell and he's not even first choice behind Bonucci and Romagnoli whereas he was when they were signing him from Villarreal. If I had to guess I'd say we'd be able to get him for around £10-12m because his wages wouldn't be insignificant to say the least.
Musacchio and Plattenhardt. These are the rumours we've been waiting to hear.
The Plattenhardt one won't go anywhere. Bild saying it'd take 20m+ bid to get him. Think he'd end up at Everton if he goes anywhere. We're clearly looking in the Bundesliga though because we've been linked with him and Augustinsson. Another two we could look at are Jetro Willems and Erik Durm. Still think we'll end up with Joe Bryan though.
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Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
And who would you drop to make room for him?
It's Pre-Season. Give him a go in the Cairney role and a go in the Johansen Box-to-Box role. I'm not suggesting he should start every week in said role, but if Cairney's knee acts up for example we need someone to come in and replace him.
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Twitter:
'Fulham have started talks for 27 year old Argentinian centre back @MateoMusacchio5 with A.C. Milan according to @DiMarzio #ffc'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateo_Musacchio
Not very big as centre backs go 5-11 according go wiki.
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Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
At last we are being linked with players who at least have the pedigree and experience to hold their own in the EPL.
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Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
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Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
And who would you drop to make room for him?
It's Pre-Season. Give him a go in the Cairney role and a go in the Johansen Box-to-Box role. I'm not suggesting he should start every week in said role, but if Cairney's knee acts up for example we need someone to come in and replace him.
Agreed
Don't think that Fonte would work in midfield just because he is a technically gifted striker (is he really?). Spraying passes from midfield and the positioning are something he's never done before. If I remember correctly Jokane tried Fonte in an advanced midfield position in a couple of games, and while I was a fan of the move at that time, he just didn't cut it. There are lots of positional transitions in football, but you rarely see strikers converting to central midfield.
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Don't think that Fonte would work in midfield just because he is a technically gifted striker (is he really?). Spraying passes from midfield and the positioning are something he's never done before. If I remember correctly Jokane tried Fonte in an advanced midfield position in a couple of games, and while I was a fan of the move at that time, he just didn't cut it. There are lots of positional transitions in football, but you rarely see strikers converting to central midfield.
We had an example at the club not too long ago with Mousa Dembele. Not that I think Fonte is anywhere near that level.
Apparently Bristol City want Button - perhaps we should tell them we want to swap him with Joe Bryan
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Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
We're interested in Ilya Kutepov according to Russian media. Another CB, rumored price is €12 million.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-linked-e12m-world-cup-defender-presented-ahead-west-ham-interest/
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Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
And who would you drop to make room for him?
It's Pre-Season. Give him a go in the Cairney role and a go in the Johansen Box-to-Box role. I'm not suggesting he should start every week in said role, but if Cairney's knee acts up for example we need someone to come in and replace him.
Agreed
How on earth do you see Fonte as a box to box midfielder?
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Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
When Joka was at Watford they played a very direct style of football. It was some of the best football I've ever seen in the Championship. Direct doesn't always mean route 1.
There was an interview a couple of months ago where Joka hinted that our passing style was a result of adapting to the players he had available. This suggests to me that he may actually prefer a more direct style.
Personally I wouldn't mind if we go a little more direct. Possession won't get us any points and our usual sideways passing in our own half is a lot more likely to get us into trouble in the Prem.
Oh ye of little Faith!
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We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
In the 1st play off game against Derby we made 790 passes, drove me mad, and I said on here that has to change, in the second leg we reduced that by over 200 passes and we looked much better,
In the Final we stuck to the "less is more" approach and Villa couldn't live with us
You might want us to go back to 790 passes but I don't.
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Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
When Joka was at Watford they played a very direct style of football. It was some of the best football I've ever seen in the Championship. Direct doesn't always mean route 1.
There was an interview a couple of months ago where Joka hinted that our passing style was a result of adapting to the players he had available. This suggests to me that he may actually prefer a more direct style.
Personally I wouldn't mind if we go a little more direct. Possession won't get us any points and our usual sideways passing in our own half is a lot more likely to get us into trouble in the Prem.
Those who like the drect style keep grasping that one quote. For me Watford were not direct in that sense of the word, what they did was get ball forward quicker with pace, but not launching it.
These seems some hope from some that deep down Joka is a Pulis/Warnock style coach and he just has to make do with players who can pass. Oh well.
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Also boyata from celtic.... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2883728/celtic-star-dedryck-boyata-fulham-world-cup-belgium/
We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
In the 1st play off game against Derby we made 790 passes, drove me mad, and I said on here that has to change, in the second leg we reduced that by over 200 passes and we looked much better,
In the Final we stuck to the "less is more" approach and Villa couldn't live with us
You might want us to go back to 790 passes but I don't.
I have made the point here in the past that too much possession is not good and there are stats to show that you can over pass. The optium passing number for us is in the 525-575 range. Above that we dont do so well and that is reflected as I say in other data.
We averaged 540 and topped the passing stats. I can live with that.
By the way, remember if you quote me, quote me correctly.
Several tmes last season I noted Slavisa looking up towards the sky. As an almost infallible expert on 'body language' I take this as irrefutable proof that Route One football will be employed next season.
It was also widely reported that on a visit with his kids to Madrid Zoo he spent some time looking at the giraffes - certain guarantee that Peter Crouch is on his way in.
Mussacchio would be a top signing. Big signing to get excited about.
As we are all good football watchers I was rather hoping that by now we would understand that Jokanovic adapts style according to who he has to play. Give him a world class player and he will find a way of getting just that from the player. Give him promise but raw, inexperienced or plain unfinished article and he'll find a way to get them to improve - whether or not by that stage they are good enough is another matter.
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We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
When Joka was at Watford they played a very direct style of football. It was some of the best football I've ever seen in the Championship. Direct doesn't always mean route 1.
There was an interview a couple of months ago where Joka hinted that our passing style was a result of adapting to the players he had available. This suggests to me that he may actually prefer a more direct style.
Personally I wouldn't mind if we go a little more direct. Possession won't get us any points and our usual sideways passing in our own half is a lot more likely to get us into trouble in the Prem.
Those who like the drect style keep grasping that one quote. For me Watford were not direct in that sense of the word, what they did was get ball forward quicker with pace, but not launching it.
These seems some hope from some that deep down Joka is a Pulis/Warnock style coach and he just has to make do with players who can pass. Oh well.
I think we may have a slightly different definition of "direct". The way you described Watford, "get the ball forward quicker with pace but not launching it", THAT's what I'm talking about. That's more or less my definition of attractive direct football. The route1/Matt Smith option is more like non-football to me so it didn't even occur to me that anyone could interpret my post like that. I really don't think anyone would truly want us to play Pulis/Warnock-style??? And I certainly don't think Joka will.
Slav he does improve players,you only have to look at AK when I watched him after sighning I couldn't see how we paid that large fee.But come the playoffs he was unbelievable.
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Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
And who would you drop to make room for him?
It's Pre-Season. Give him a go in the Cairney role and a go in the Johansen Box-to-Box role. I'm not suggesting he should start every week in said role, but if Cairney's knee acts up for example we need someone to come in and replace him.
Agreed
How on earth do you see Fonte as a box to box midfielder?
Because we think the opposite of you.
If Slav rates him he will play him. If not he will be gone at Christmas.
Either way support of the players and the team is what counts.
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Roughly 10m wasn't it? I think we'd struggle to find a suitor for 4m.
Disagree. And I think he is more suited to the premier league. Certainly derserves a chance as does everyone else who got us promoted.
totally agree
I really do not understand the view held by a few posters that Fonte is somehow more suited to the Prem. he failed in the Championship and the Prem us a big step up. Defenders tend to be quicker, more tactically astute, better on the ball and into the tackle and play more effectively as a unit. They just rely less on pure physicality. Now why would a failed Championship level forward player be more suited to that?
It's not impossible that a Striker who struggled in the Championship does well in the Prem. See Josh King. Personally I think we should try Fonte out in a Centre-Mid role in some of the Pre-Season games, because he can read the game quite well.
And who would you drop to make room for him?
It's Pre-Season. Give him a go in the Cairney role and a go in the Johansen Box-to-Box role. I'm not suggesting he should start every week in said role, but if Cairney's knee acts up for example we need someone to come in and replace him.
Agreed
How on earth do you see Fonte as a box to box midfielder?
Because we think the opposite of you.
If Slav rates him he will play him. If not he will be gone at Christmas.
Either way support of the players and the team is what counts.
I must admit, I really don't see how anyone can see him as a box to box midfielder....or at least an effective one and that's from someone who actually rates Fonte for his game reading ability and technical ability....
Krul to Fulham is now on sky's top 10 whispers so maybe that's not dead?
Linked to Marvin Plattenhard from Herta Berlin
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We're interested in Ilya Kutepov according to Russian media. Another CB, rumored price is €12 million.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-linked-e12m-world-cup-defender-presented-ahead-west-ham-interest/
He was excellent against Spain.
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We won't sign Boyata, he's not good with his feet. Very much traditional centre back.
You obviously didn't read what Slava said at the end of last season.
"There will be games in the Premier where we will have to play a more direct style"
That will please a few of the 'get it forward gang' ......Calling Matt Smith
In the 1st play off game against Derby we made 790 passes, drove me mad, and I said on here that has to change, in the second leg we reduced that by over 200 passes and we looked much better,
In the Final we stuck to the "less is more" approach and Villa couldn't live with us
You might want us to go back to 790 passes but I don't.
I have made the point here in the past that too much possession is not good and there are stats to show that you can over pass. The optium passing number for us is in the 525-575 range. Above that we dont do so well and that is reflected as I say in other data.
We averaged 540 and topped the passing stats. I can live with that.
By the way, remember if you quote me, quote me correctly.
Possession is not an end in and of itself, unless you are holding on to a lead. But used right it will get you goals. Certainly better than long aimless punts.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/05/por-brighton-set-to-bag-fulhams-button/
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http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/05/por-brighton-set-to-bag-fulhams-button/
Straight swap for Norwood? Makes sense, hes keen on it, he's out of favour at Brighton, Button doesnt fit here and Krul is joining on a free. A way to get a player in without spending money (wages aside)
New name in the mix: Lille's central/defensive midfielder Yves Bissouma, 21. Brighton and Porto also interested.
http://www.footmercato.net/flash-mercato/info-fm-brighton-et-fulham-en-pincent-pour-yves-bissouma_231019
Cavaleiro for £16m could be a realistic deal according to Dean Jones of Bleacher Report (also a Fulham supporter and well connected to the club).
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Fulham continuing to pursue Ivan Cavaleiro and a £16m deal is starting to look possible
How good is he? I don't really remember him much from last season against Wolves....
Would be a top drawer signing should it happen (I still have some massive doubts).
Stopped being lazy.....stats say in 2017-2018 he had 42 appearances with 9 goals and 12 assists. Not too bad in a team that talented.
Not sure but don't think he played 90 minutes that often. Usually subbed after about 70 mnutes
Cava is very good, Wolves fans on twitter are all laughing saying we have no chance. If we did sign would be tops.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Cava is very good, Wolves fans on twitter are all laughing saying we have no chance. If we did sign would be tops.
Just posting what Dean Jones said. I doubt we'd be bidding poultry amounts more at a time if they haven't at least led us to believe we could sign him.....Maybe I'm wrong.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 05, 2018, 04:38:11 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Cava is very good, Wolves fans on twitter are all laughing saying we have no chance. If we did sign would be tops.
Just posting what Dean Jones said. I doubt we'd be bidding poultry amounts more at a time if they haven't at least led us to believe we could sign him.....Maybe I'm wrong.
There's no point in bidding chicken feed.
Made me chuckle. Well played Sir.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Cava is very good, Wolves fans on twitter are all laughing saying we have no chance. If we did sign would be tops.
Dont underestimate the lure of London. Massive Portuguese community in the capital. Cant imagine what living around Wolverhampton is like?.
Dont underestimate the lure of London. Massive Portuguese community in the capital. Cant imagine what living around Wolverhampton is like?.
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Historically part of Staffordshire, the city is named after Wulfrun, who founded the town in 985, from the Anglo-Saxon Wulfrūnehēantūn ("Wulfrūn's high or principal enclosure or farm").[4][5][6] Prior to the Norman Conquest, the area's name appears only as variants of Heantune or Hamtun, the prefix Wulfrun or similar appearing in 1070 and thereafter.[5] Alternatively, the city may have earned its original name from Wulfereēantūn ("Wulfhere's high or principal enclosure or farm") after the Mercian King,[7] who tradition tells us established an abbey in 659, though no evidence of an abbey has been found.[8] The variation Wolveren Hampton is seen in medieval records, e.g. in 1381.[9]
The city grew initially as a market town specialising in the woollen trade. In the Industrial Revolution, it became a major centre for coal mining, steel production, lock making and the manufacture of cars and motorcycles. The economy of the city is still based on engineering, including a large aerospace industry, as well as the service sector.[10]
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 05, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
Dont underestimate the lure of London. Massive Portuguese community in the capital. Cant imagine what living around Wolverhampton is like?.
Historically part of Staffordshire, the city is named after Wulfrun, who founded the town in 985, from the Anglo-Saxon Wulfrūnehēantūn ("Wulfrūn's high or principal enclosure or farm").[4][5][6] Prior to the Norman Conquest, the area's name appears only as variants of Heantune or Hamtun, the prefix Wulfrun or similar appearing in 1070 and thereafter.[5] Alternatively, the city may have earned its original name from Wulfereēantūn ("Wulfhere's high or principal enclosure or farm") after the Mercian King,[7] who tradition tells us established an abbey in 659, though no evidence of an abbey has been found.[8] The variation Wolveren Hampton is seen in medieval records, e.g. in 1381.[9]
The city grew initially as a market town specialising in the woollen trade. In the Industrial Revolution, it became a major centre for coal mining, steel production, lock making and the manufacture of cars and motorcycles. The economy of the city is still based on engineering, including a large aerospace industry, as well as the service sector.[10]
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Thanks for that but doesn't tell mewhat its like to live there?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 05, 2018, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Cava is very good, Wolves fans on twitter are all laughing saying we have no chance. If we did sign would be tops.
Dont underestimate the lure of London. Massive Portuguese community in the capital. Cant imagine what living around Wolverhampton is like?.
Hope you're right. Some quotes from Wolves forum
'While we would always like to get the best players possible, Cavaleiro is one of our best players and I feel sure will have a huge part to play for us next season. £14M is a derisory offer for a player of his quality.
Go away Fulham.'
'Why on earth would we sell Cav when we are still short attacking wise? And why would we sell to close rivals on the cheap? He is a £20m player when on form and of course we need to keep him for the upcoming campaign as he dovetails so well with Jota and Costa.I wish these kinds of stupid stories would just go away and we start getting some positive incoming news.'
'I don't know Cav personally but a close friend of mine does. He has repeatedly stated how happy he is here, isn't interested in going anywhere. The Portuguese lads LOVE it at Wolves.
'This is just Fulham trying it on. Whether they're serious or just trying to appease the fans I'm not sure, but I know for certain that Cav has no interest in leaving and the club do not want to sell him.'
TC just signed for 5 years 049:gif
Source from the offal: http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/july/05/five-year-deal-for-tom-cairney
Quote from: Swiss72 on July 05, 2018, 07:37:51 PM
TC just signed for 5 years 049:gif
Fantastic news confirmed on the Offal. Shows real intent & ambition from the Club. Our targeted signings will take note of this.
Grealish to Spuds 20 million.
Talknonsense said the other night that they weren't interested. :005:
Thank you Swiss72, fabulous news this fine evening.
Splendid news about Tom Cairney, following on from Scott Parker yesterday and let's hope it's the beginning of good things to come.
Reckon we'll announce the Sessegnon new deal tomorrow. We love a Friday announcement.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 05, 2018, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Cava is very good, Wolves fans on twitter are all laughing saying we have no chance. If we did sign would be tops.
Dont underestimate the lure of London. Massive Portuguese community in the capital. Cant imagine what living around Wolverhampton is like?.
I have been a loyal supporter for 55 years.I. Lived in south London until I was 20 and then moved to a town 10 miles from Wolverhampton. In my early years I imagined that people north of Watford were inferior to Londoners but I grew up to realise that people are just the same.Wolverhampton town is not my favourite place but there are some beautiful places to the near north and west.We are FFC no matter where we reside.
Quote from: bod on July 05, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
I have been a loyal supporter for 55 years.I. Lived in south London until I was 20 and then moved to a town 10 miles from Wolverhampton. In my early years I imagined that people north of Watford were inferior to Londoners but I grew up to realise that people are just the same.Wolverhampton town is not my favourite place but there are some beautiful places to the near north and west.We are FFC no matter where we reside.
Shrewsbury! Hear, hear!
Quote from: bod on July 05, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
I have been a loyal supporter for 55 years.I. Lived in south London until I was 20 and then moved to a town 10 miles from Wolverhampton. In my early years I imagined that people north of Watford were inferior to Londoners but I grew up to realise that people are just the same.Wolverhampton town is not my favourite place but there are some beautiful places to the near north and west.We are FFC no matter where we reside.
Many players that are new to the country want to go where the rich are - affluent people typically populate with others that are similar. London can be a huge positive for those with new money and who don't know any better... Likemany 24 year olds.
Bakary Sako? Think he out there available to pick up on a free transfer would be a solid squad player to bring in I think
Cavaleiro I believe is going to happen.
3rd bid in,if Wolves weren't interested they would have told us go away not for sale at any price..They're looking for around 18-20 million I should think.
Quote from: MrFFC on July 06, 2018, 07:33:50 AM
Bakary Sako? Think he out there available to pick up on a free transfer would be a solid squad player to bring in I think
Agreed, on a free signing he would be a good pickup as has proved himself a capable player at Prem level under Roy last season.
Funnily enough I was out with a Palace fan last night and I brought up Sako was on the released lists but he thinks that he is still in negotiations with Palace over a renewal, rather than has been let go completely. He reckons Palace will agree an extension with him but I would be happy if we snuck in and got him from under their noses.
Cabaye has been released as well who would also be a top notch backup for Cairney if his knee tries to fall off again, but apparently is due to sign for someone else imminently. Shame...
Quote from: Count Flapula on July 06, 2018, 08:08:39 AM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 06, 2018, 07:33:50 AM
Bakary Sako? Think he out there available to pick up on a free transfer would be a solid squad player to bring in I think
Agreed, on a free signing he would be a good pickup as has proved himself a capable player at Prem level under Roy last season.
Funnily enough I was out with a Palace fan last night and I brought up Sako was on the released lists but he thinks that he is still in negotiations with Palace over a renewal, rather than has been let go completely. He reckons Palace will agree an extension with him but I would be happy if we snuck in and got him from under their noses.
Cabaye has been released as well who would also be a top notch backup for Cairney if his knee tries to fall off again, but apparently is due to sign for someone else imminently. Shame...
Sako would be a great signing just based on quality, but he's 30 years old and injury prone. IMHO that's not the kind of players we should look to sign, even for free.
West Ham are close to signing Jack Wilshere, who is a free agent after leaving Arsenal. The Hammers have offered the 26-year-old England midfielder a three-year deal worth £100,000 a week.
If true absolute madness. Don´t know what his signing on fee would be. They won´t be blowing their bubbles if they continue with these insane salaries.
Quote from: grandad on July 06, 2018, 09:11:19 AM
West Ham are close to signing Jack Wilshere, who is a free agent after leaving Arsenal. The Hammers have offered the 26-year-old England midfielder a three-year deal worth £100,000 a week.
If true absolute madness. Don´t know what his signing on fee would be. They won´t be blowing their bubbles if they continue with these insane salaries.
West Ham are such an odd team. Why would anybody want to go play there in a lifeless dead stadium, ***** brothers for owners and constant mediocrity? Other than dollar. I've answered my own question.
I'd love Sako, but I also heard hes pretty nailed on to re-signing from a few Palace fans, could be rubbish but based on his social media etc you wouldn't of thought he was leaving. On a free, even with his injuries, he'd be a great addition to the squad. Great attitude.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 05, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: bod on July 05, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
I have been a loyal supporter for 55 years.I. Lived in south London until I was 20 and then moved to a town 10 miles from Wolverhampton. In my early years I imagined that people north of Watford were inferior to Londoners but I grew up to realise that people are just the same.Wolverhampton town is not my favourite place but there are some beautiful places to the near north and west.We are FFC no matter where we reside.
Many players that are new to the country want to go where the rich are - affluent people typically populate with others that are similar. London can be a huge positive for those with new money and who don't know any better... Likemany 24 year olds.
A good analysis!
Sky sports saying we have enquired about cm seri of nice. Chelsea and Arsenal also interested and nearly joined Barca last season so I doubt this will happen, but nice to be linked to that level of player
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 06, 2018, 11:04:52 AM
Sky sports saying we have enquirer about cm seri of nice. Chelsea and Arsenal also interested and nearly joined Barca last season so I doubt this will happen, but nice to be linked to that level of player
If true that would be quite the coup.
Nice to see that we're being linked with big names if nothing else. Given that he is rated at around £35 million I don't see it happening.
Quote from: Holders on July 06, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 05, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: bod on July 05, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
I have been a loyal supporter for 55 years.I. Lived in south London until I was 20 and then moved to a town 10 miles from Wolverhampton. In my early years I imagined that people north of Watford were inferior to Londoners but I grew up to realise that people are just the same.Wolverhampton town is not my favourite place but there are some beautiful places to the near north and west.We are FFC no matter where we reside.
Many players that are new to the country want to go where the rich are - affluent people typically populate with others that are similar. London can be a huge positive for those with new money and who don't know any better... Likemany 24 year olds.
A good analysis!
But then according to this, why isn't Hamburg a superpower in football. Behind London, probably the wealthiest town in Europe. As a premier league footballer you could play for Huddersfiels on a cold Tuesday night, jump in your or hired private jet and and be in Monaco enjoying the beach on Wednesday morning. I think it more home comforts/links to your home country. If you know you can get home cooking like at mum's 5 minutes away you are more likely to choose to live there than Huddersfield. So London clubs (and Manchester) have a massive advantage to attracting international players.
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2018, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 06, 2018, 11:04:52 AM
Sky sports saying we have enquirer about cm seri of nice. Chelsea and Arsenal also interested and nearly joined Barca last season so I doubt this will happen, but nice to be linked to that level of player
If true that would be quite the coup.
Nice to see that we're being linked with big names if nothing else.
Yep, Jean Seri would be quite a signing!!
Looks like the Khan's are pulling out the chequebook to ensure we're around next season. Imagine getting just 5 of the names we've been linked with? We won't have then ready for match day 1, but by 2 or 3 we should have a much improved on field team.
Nice to have an owner worth 40,000 times more than I.
Lots of rumours about players from France lately: Seri, Bissouma, Le Marchand, M'Vila, Niane, Plea, Poundjé, Krychowiak & Grenier.
Quote from: twang on July 06, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
Lots of rumours about players from France lately: Seri, Bissouma, Le Marchand, M'Vila, Niane, Plea, Poundjé.
I know Plea, Marchand, Bissouma and Seri have been linked here, are the others also linked?
According to the rumors we're buying half of Nice apparently.
Nice one..... :Get Coat gif:
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2018, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: twang on July 06, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
Lots of rumours about players from France lately: Seri, Bissouma, Le Marchand, M'Vila, Niane, Plea, Poundjé.
I know Plea, Marchand, Bissouma and Seri have been linked here, are the others also linked?
According to the rumors we're buying half of Nice apparently.
Yes, in various degrees. The M'Vila rumour popped up today in French sites, us and Palace looking at him apparently. Adama Niane has been linked by some African sites and Poundjé's name has popped up a few times, could be a recycled rumour from last year though.
Grenier and Krychowiak, who I missed in my original post, were also linked to us a week ago or so.
Quote from: Tabby on July 06, 2018, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: twang on July 06, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
Lots of rumours about players from France lately: Seri, Bissouma, Le Marchand, M'Vila, Niane, Plea, Poundjé.
I know Plea, Marchand, Bissouma and Seri have been linked here, are the others also linked?
According to the rumors we're buying half of Nice apparently.
i;m sure the new manager there, Patrick Viera, will be chuffed that he will loose half his team this transfer window (to various English clubs).
WOLVES LAUNCH BIG-MONEY ZINCHENKO BID
Wolves have launched a club-record £16m, bid for Man City's Oleksandr Zinchenko.
The wing back has been made available by City and Wolves are closing in.
Zincehnko made 16 appearances for City last season, eight in the Premier League to allow him to claim a medal as Pep Guardiola's side romped to the title.
He spent the 2016-17 season on loan at PSV, but struggled to make an impact and last season was a breakthrough year at the Etihad.
However, City appear willing to let him leave with Wolves ready to offer him more chances of first-team football.
may be a replacement for Cavielero
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on July 06, 2018, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 06, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 05, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: bod on July 05, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
I have been a loyal supporter for 55 years.I. Lived in south London until I was 20 and then moved to a town 10 miles from Wolverhampton. In my early years I imagined that people north of Watford were inferior to Londoners but I grew up to realise that people are just the same.Wolverhampton town is not my favourite place but there are some beautiful places to the near north and west.We are FFC no matter where we reside.
Many players that are new to the country want to go where the rich are - affluent people typically populate with others that are similar. London can be a huge positive for those with new money and who don't know any better... Likemany 24 year olds.
A good analysis!
But then according to this, why isn't Hamburg a superpower in football. Behind London, probably the wealthiest town in Europe. As a premier league footballer you could play for Huddersfiels on a cold Tuesday night, jump in your or hired private jet and and be in Monaco enjoying the beach on Wednesday morning. I think it more home comforts/links to your home country. If you know you can get home cooking like at mum's 5 minutes away you are more likely to choose to live there than Huddersfield. So London clubs (and Manchester) have a massive advantage to attracting international players.
I think we may have interpreted the point differently. I took it that those with new money who know no better go to big cities where the wealthy congregate and implicitly suggested that the more thoughtful might choose to go somewhere more salubrious - like say Munich or whatever its UK equivalent might be. I know that it doesn't always follow and big cities like London, Manchester etc tend to have the better clubs but I liked his angle. On the other hand I may have misunderstood him.
We seem to be mentioned in all the media outlets about who were are interested in,but no official bids apart from Cavaleiro,unless they keeping them quiet.
Quote from: corbs83 on July 06, 2018, 12:39:12 PM
WOLVES LAUNCH BIG-MONEY ZINCHENKO BID
Wolves have launched a club-record £16m, bid for Man City's Oleksandr Zinchenko.
The wing back has been made available by City and Wolves are closing in.
Zincehnko made 16 appearances for City last season, eight in the Premier League to allow him to claim a medal as Pep Guardiola's side romped to the title.
He spent the 2016-17 season on loan at PSV, but struggled to make an impact and last season was a breakthrough year at the Etihad.
However, City appear willing to let him leave with Wolves ready to offer him more chances of first-team football.
may be a replacement for Cavielero
We could go for him instead. Clearly cheaper and looked very good when I've seen him.
Quote from: Statto on July 06, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 06, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Looks like the Khan's are pulling out the chequebook to ensure we're around next season.
Not only did I hope the cheque book would come out this summer but I expected it. But I also hoped/expected it would have already come out by this stage. So whilst its mildly pleasing to see us linked with these players, because generally there's no smoke without fire, it has to be balanced against the cold reality that pre-season has started, we still haven't signed anyone, and these are just rumours.
Some people are comparing apples with pears, Wolves realistically knew in March that they were going to be playing in The Premier League next season whereas we only found out on the final weekend of May,
Some people need to chill out a bit, this will be the greatest transfer window that our club have ever known existing transfer records are going to get obliterated, at least 8 will come in and at least 5 will leave,
Strap yourselves in were going on a rollercoaster.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 06, 2018, 12:47:48 PM
We seem to be mentioned in all the media outlets about who were are interested in,but no official bids apart from Cavaleiro,unless they keeping them quiet.
we ALWAYS do though
Quote from: Statto on July 06, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 06, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Looks like the Khan's are pulling out the chequebook to ensure we're around next season.
Not only did I hope the cheque book would come out this summer but I expected it. But I also hoped/expected it would have already come out by this stage. So whilst its mildly pleasing to see us linked with these players, because generally there's no smoke without fire, it has to be balanced against the cold reality that pre-season has started, we still haven't signed anyone, and these are just rumours.
Cardiff didn't take time, and have ended up with 4 Championship players.
I'd rather take our time, and get linked with much bigger prospects.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 06, 2018, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 06, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 06, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Looks like the Khan's are pulling out the chequebook to ensure we're around next season.
Not only did I hope the cheque book would come out this summer but I expected it. But I also hoped/expected it would have already come out by this stage. So whilst its mildly pleasing to see us linked with these players, because generally there's no smoke without fire, it has to be balanced against the cold reality that pre-season has started, we still haven't signed anyone, and these are just rumours.
Cardiff didn't take time, and have ended up with 4 Championship players.
I'd rather take our time, and get linked with much bigger prospects.
If we don't get a move on we might be playing with 11 championship players.😒
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/06/report-fulham-and-palace-make-enquiries-for-yann-mvila/
St.Etienne midfielder and ex-Sunderland star M'Vila is reportedly on Fulham and Crystal Palace's shortlist.
French outlet Foot Mercato have claimed that newly-promoted Fulham are going head-to-head with Crystal Palace for the signing of St. Etienne midfielder Yann M'Vila.
The 28-year-old tough-tackling midfielder only joined Les Verts in the January transfer window from Russian side Rubin Kazan, but is now said to be interesting the Premier League duo.
M'Vila has become renowned as somewhat of a journeyman, failing to live up to his huge potential as a youngster coming through the ranks with Rennes and then Inter Milan.
The 22-time France international's career derailed, and he was forced to try his luck in Russia with Kazan, where he joined Sunderland from on a season-long loan during the 2015-16 campaign.
A star performer at the Stadium of Light, M'Vila failed to earn a permanent deal and returned to Russia. But he has now begun to show that he can live up to his previous potential and that has alerted both Fulham and Palace.
The Premier League duo are not alone in their interest for the French midfielder, though, with the report claiming Chinese Super League clubs are also keen on M'Vila. He has a contract until the end of next season with Les Verts.
Seri would be a crazy crazy signing for us. Think they've got his release clause wrong as was about £25m last summer or January.
Either way doubt we could afford him or tempt him to come to us over barca, Chelsea etc
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 06, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
Seri would be a crazy crazy signing for us.
Either way doubt we could afford him or tempt him to come to us over barca, Chelsea etc
I dunno. Admittedly Chelsea play in the decent part of town. But Barcelona? Pah! Bit like Wolverhampton only with wobbly churches.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 06, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
Seri would be a crazy crazy signing for us. Think they've got his release clause wrong as was about £25m last summer or January.
Either way doubt we could afford him or tempt him to come to us over barca, Chelsea etc
"Seri's clause is €40million (£35million) and it is valid until 15th July," the player's agent confirmed last month, via the Express.
"After that Nice can ask for any amount they want."
There's no chance we'll get him but great to be even linked with him
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Stephen Humphrys has gone on loan to Scunthorpe.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2018, 04:04:23 PM
Stephen Humphrys has gone on loan to Scunthorpe.
Mitrovic incoming...?
Jean Seri, Jean Seri ........ "you avin a larf" (one for the fans of EXTRAS)
I can see temporary signs going up over the turnstiles with the added extra fee to get in and all Riversiders will be :Haynes The Maestro: :Haynes The Maestro: were not worthy!!
Seriously, is this just us positioning ourselves as a major player on the London scene? Do not think we can swing it but the thought of it is "lip smacking"
Looked him up on utube... wow just wow.
COYW 049:gif 049:gif
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 06, 2018, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 06, 2018, 04:04:23 PM
Stephen Humphrys has gone on loan to Scunthorpe.
Mitrovic incoming...?
More likely Humphrys just wouldn't have factored into our Pre-Season plans so we've sent him out early. Even if we signed Mitrovic today he probably wouldn't be ready to play until Lyon.
http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/11427929/fulham-join-jean-seri-hunt-as-chelsea-sort-managerial-situation
Is Seri really worth £35m? Sounds insane. Perhaps we are working on a deal for him... that would shatter our transfer fee paid x 3!!!
66 pages, and all we got is one guy out on loan ... 🙈
Quote from: Hoppus on July 06, 2018, 05:34:09 PM
66 pages, and all we got is one guy out on loan ... 🙈
Who is the guy on loan?
Fred left too lest we forget.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 06, 2018, 06:12:24 PM
Fred left too lest we forget.
Nah forgot about him already.
Some promising rumours and obviously delighted with the Cairney deal, but we need to get a move on. No point going into pre-season with 12 first teamers.
Thought surely I'd have a pop in to see several threads lauding the club and Sess for his signing today but.......I'm finding that we are short a "crickets" emoji
Quote from: Riversider on July 06, 2018, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 06, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 06, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Looks like the Khan's are pulling out the chequebook to ensure we're around next season.
Not only did I hope the cheque book would come out this summer but I expected it. But I also hoped/expected it would have already come out by this stage. So whilst its mildly pleasing to see us linked with these players, because generally there's no smoke without fire, it has to be balanced against the cold reality that pre-season has started, we still haven't signed anyone, and these are just rumours.
Some people are comparing apples with pears, Wolves realistically knew in March that they were going to be playing in The Premier League next season whereas we only found out on the final weekend of May,
Some people need to chill out a bit, this will be the greatest transfer window that our club have ever known existing transfer records are going to get obliterated, at least 8 will come in and at least 5 will leave,
Strap yourselves in were going on a rollercoaster.
Sorry but this "we didn't know" argument just does not hold up. At the FST AGM, held well before the Wembley play off final, Alistair M stated categorically that we had 2 lists in place and approved. One of those lists was on the basis that we would be promoted. So we have had more time than you suggest and the signings should have started by now, unless we want an exceptionally poor start to our season with a bunch of guys who don't even recognise one another!
New deal for Ream! Signed a two year contract. Now we just need StefJo, McDonald, Sess and the Head Coach to renew their own deals!
Not a glowing report on boyata.... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/06/do-are-fulham-making-an-expensive-mistake-reportedly-targeting-c/
Quote from: deano_632 on July 06, 2018, 07:13:03 PM
Not a glowing report on boyata.... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/06/do-are-fulham-making-an-expensive-mistake-reportedly-targeting-c/
Johansen was completely useless according to the celtic fans as well.
Quote from: deano_632 on July 06, 2018, 07:13:03 PM
Not a glowing report on boyata.... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/06/do-are-fulham-making-an-expensive-mistake-reportedly-targeting-c/
Hitc are useless as well. Not a huge interest in their thoughts.
That hitc report is literally one journalist graduates opinion. He's been capped by Belgium and has won league titles with Celtic , so I'm pretty sure he's able to come in and compete with.... Djalo?
According to the article below M'Vila has an agreement with St Etienne that he can leave for free until July 31, if he wants to join another club, even though he's under contract until next summer. This because he made a 'big financial effort' (huge pay cut, I guess) to join St Etienne from Rubin Kazan in the first place. The same agreement states that if M'Vila hasn't joined another club on August 1 then he will honour his current contract.
https://www.foot01.com/equipe/st-etienne/asse-l-etonnant-deal-qui-peut-faire-partir-m-vila,289839
Quote from: twang on July 06, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
According to the article below M'Vila has an agreement with St Etienne that he can leave for free until July 31, if he wants to join another club, even though he's under contract until next summer. This because he made a 'big financial effort' (huge pay cut, I guess) to join St Etienne from Rubin Kazan in the first place. The same agreement states that if M'Vila hasn't joined another club on August 1 then he will honour his current contract.
https://www.foot01.com/equipe/st-etienne/asse-l-etonnant-deal-qui-peut-faire-partir-m-vila,289839
Would be a top signing, albeit he's a bit of a bad boy.
I wouldn't fancy N'Vila, feel like he had his chance and what I saw at Sunderland didn't really like his attitude. Looked a talent before he came to england though especially at set pieces.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 06, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
I wouldn't fancy N'Vila, feel like he had his chance and what I saw at Sunderland didn't really like his attitude. Looked a talent before he came to england though especially at set pieces.
Allardyce had him playing really well when he came in at Sunderland. Probably would've stayed there had Allardyce not quit Sunderland to manage a game in Slovenia before he got his pint of wine. We need good depth as much as anything else, and having him and McDonald as holding mids would be decent.
Adebayo out on loan to Swindon.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/july/07/loan-deal-for-adebayo
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/real-madrid/transfer-talk/news/real-to-pay-155m-for-milinkovic-savic_330032.html
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
Quote from: ollienixs on July 07, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
He would never get much game time. Just another example of one of the "big " clubs stockpiling . They would probably loan him out.
Quote from: grandad on July 08, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 07, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
He would never get much game time. Just another example of one of the "big " clubs stockpiling . They would probably loan him out.
Yeh.... To Villa!! :)
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 08, 2018, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 08, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 07, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
He would never get much game time. Just another example of one of the "big " clubs stockpiling . They would probably loan him out.
Yeh.... To Villa!! :)
typical levy,well worth 15 to 20 million would like Fulham to sign him.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 08, 2018, 09:38:21 AM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 08, 2018, 09:33:09 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 08, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 07, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
He would never get much game time. Just another example of one of the "big " clubs stockpiling . They would probably loan him out.
Yeh.... To Villa!! :)
typical levy,well worth 15 to 20 million would like Fulham to sign him.
Let´s sign him & offer to loan him to Spuds as they are so short of midfielders.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 07, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
Went on holiday to same place as Cairney in Portugal either by chance or not and recently congratulated TC on his new contract - they've clearly bonded over something and respect one another.. does that lead to a respect for Fulham and a desire to play for one another? Could they play together?
Quote from: General on July 08, 2018, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 07, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Tottenham have offered 10m for grealish, according to the Mirror.
Talk about kicking a club when it's down, I'd take him for 10m almost guaranteed to have a good resale value on him
Went on holiday to same place as Cairney in Portugal either by chance or not and recently congratulated TC on his new contract - they've clearly bonded over something and respect one another.. does that lead to a respect for Fulham and a desire to play for one another? Could they play together?
Can't understand why we don't strong arm villa like Levy is, we have the money and he is a decent player and if worst comes to worst we sell him on and probably lose nothing
Quote from: ollienixs on July 08, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
Can't understand why we don't strong arm villa like Levy is, we have the money and he is a decent player and if worst comes to worst we sell him on and probably lose nothing
Maybe he is as set on going to Tottenham as Mitro is to go here? At £10 million he'd be an absolute bargain though.
No way is he going for to be sold for £10 mn
If he is it should be to us as Villa still owe us £6mn for Mac
Any yes he a Cairney could play together . He just plays the Johanson position
Quote from: Riverside on July 08, 2018, 11:52:54 AM
No way is he going for to be sold for £10 mn
If he is it should be to us as Villa still owe us £6mn for Mac
Any yes he a Cairney could play together . He just plays the Johanson position
He'd need to drop Tom Daley as coach, though.
Seri has apparently gotten leave from their pre-season trip, suggesting that a move could be imminent.
According to the Brighton Argus, Brighton are closing in on sighning David button ands it's very close to being deal done
Wonder if Chadli could be in our range? Really rated him during World Cup and prior. Always just thought he wasn't quite top 6 calibre for consistency but definitely EPL quality.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 08, 2018, 12:06:22 PM
According to the Brighton Argus, Brighton are closing in on sighning David button ands it's very close to being deal done
Is anyone questioning their motives here? They are literally stockpiling useless keepers. Jason Steele and David Button. Either that or they have supreme confidence in Mat Ryan not getting injured
Quote from: Newry FFC on July 08, 2018, 12:50:10 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 08, 2018, 12:06:22 PM
According to the Brighton Argus, Brighton are closing in on sighning David button ands it's very close to being deal done
Is anyone questioning their motives here? They are literally stockpiling useless keepers. Jason Steele and David Button. Either that or they have supreme confidence in Mat Ryan not getting injured
Matt Ryan is going to be away for a while during the Asian Cup in January.
Quote from: Newry FFC on July 08, 2018, 12:50:10 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 08, 2018, 12:06:22 PM
According to the Brighton Argus, Brighton are closing in on sighning David button ands it's very close to being deal done
Is anyone questioning their motives here? They are literally stockpiling useless keepers. Jason Steele and David Button. Either that or they have supreme confidence in Mat Ryan not getting injured
Hmm, David Button useless? That's harsh.
Quote from: Twig on July 08, 2018, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on July 08, 2018, 12:50:10 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 08, 2018, 12:06:22 PM
According to the Brighton Argus, Brighton are closing in on sighning David button ands it's very close to being deal done
Is anyone questioning their motives here? They are literally stockpiling useless keepers. Jason Steele and David Button. Either that or they have supreme confidence in Mat Ryan not getting injured
Hmm, David Button useless? That's harsh.
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Button is not a bad keeper, distribution wise he's liable to make more mistakes than Betts because he doesn't dominate and talk to his defense where as Betts cumminicates better.
Breaking | OGC Nice midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri is currently in London, according to @Nabil_djellit. More follows.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 08, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Breaking | OGC Nice midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri is currently in London, according to @Nabil_djellit. More follows.
Also said that he is there to talk to Chelsea and Arsenal.
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 08, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Breaking | OGC Nice midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri is currently in London, according to @Nabil_djellit. More follows.
Also said that he is there to talk to Chelsea and Arsenal.
And talking to us?
Quote from: Rambler on July 08, 2018, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 08, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Breaking | OGC Nice midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri is currently in London, according to @Nabil_djellit. More follows.
Also said that he is there to talk to Chelsea and Arsenal.
And talking to us?
Just said Chelsea and Arsenal.
Info : Jean-Mika Seri est sur Londres... En instance de départ, pour rappel, il est en contact avec Arsenal, Chelsea... A suivre ! cc @PatrickJuillard
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2018, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: Rambler on July 08, 2018, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 08, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Breaking | OGC Nice midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri is currently in London, according to @Nabil_djellit. More follows.
Also said that he is there to talk to Chelsea and Arsenal.
And talking to us?
Just said Chelsea and Arsenal.
Info : Jean-Mika Seri est sur Londres... En instance de départ, pour rappel, il est en contact avec Arsenal, Chelsea... A suivre ! cc @PatrickJuillard
Was not realistic as his release clause is more than 3x what we've ever paid for a transfer fee. A sign we've lacked ambition for a long time and hopefully that will change.
Spending 35m on Seri was always a pipe dream as far as I'm concerned. Nice to get excited about it, but it was never going to happen when we need to fill so many holes in the squad.
Seri is never happening for Fulham he is a quality player who will join a top team. Realistic additions for me are ones like Mitrovic & Cavaleiro who would improve us a lot.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 08, 2018, 10:07:24 PM
Spending 35m on Seri was always a pipe dream as far as I'm concerned. Nice to get excited about it, but it was never going to happen when we need to fill so many holes in the squad.
if they get 35million, Nice will definitely get excited
I think we have to be real here, if we spend 100 million on the squad we will not spend 30M on any one player. We have to be clever and risk money on potential, thats how it is. Just reality. Still looking forward to next season with a White Wall against the the Palace. COYW
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2018, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: Rambler on July 08, 2018, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 08, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 08, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Breaking | OGC Nice midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri is currently in London, according to @Nabil_djellit. More follows.
Also said that he is there to talk to Chelsea and Arsenal.
And talking to us?
Just said Chelsea and Arsenal.
Info : Jean-Mika Seri est sur Londres... En instance de départ, pour rappel, il est en contact avec Arsenal, Chelsea... A suivre ! cc @PatrickJuillard
BBC are mentioning us tho...
Nice midfielder Jean-Michael Seri has been spotted in London with Chelsea, Arsenal and Fulham all interested in signing the 26-year-old Ivorian. (Star)
Seri is not a centre half or a forward or a right sided midfielder is he? In which case why are we even entertaining the idea we would pay that amount for him?
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Seri is not a centre half or a forward or a right sided midfielder is he? In which case why are we even entertaining the idea we would pay that amount for him?
We need depth in midfield and one way of getting that is to buy better starters.
Quote from: twang on July 09, 2018, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Seri is not a centre half or a forward or a right sided midfielder is he? In which case why are we even entertaining the idea we would pay that amount for him?
We need depth in midfield and one way of getting that is to buy better starters.
Every memeber of the squad could be upgraded at present, yes we have stars who will retain their place within the team but we need to keep upgrading when and where we can
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: twang on July 09, 2018, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Seri is not a centre half or a forward or a right sided midfielder is he? In which case why are we even entertaining the idea we would pay that amount for him?
We need depth in midfield and one way of getting that is to buy better starters.
Every memeber of the squad could be upgraded at present, yes we have stars who will retain their place within the team but we need to keep upgrading when and where we can
Yes we do but we also need to put in players where we have none in a particular position. So paying a huge amount for a player in a position that may well need upgrading but has good cover. Is less of a priority than the gaping holes we have in at least three positions at the moment. Ideally we will do both.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: twang on July 09, 2018, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Seri is not a centre half or a forward or a right sided midfielder is he? In which case why are we even entertaining the idea we would pay that amount for him?
We need depth in midfield and one way of getting that is to buy better starters.
Every memeber of the squad could be upgraded at present, yes we have stars who will retain their place within the team but we need to keep upgrading when and where we can
Yes we do but we also need to put in players where we have none in a particular position. So paying a huge amount for a player in a position that may well need upgrading but has good cover. Is less of a priority than the gaping holes we have in at least three positions at the moment. Ideally we will do both.
Well we have no cover in this position either. Once Johansen, Cairney or McD are injured who comes in? Cisse, O'Riley, DLT or Edun, that's who... we need more and if it bumps McD or Johansen to sub then thats only a benefit. The bench this year needs to be made up of last years starters.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: twang on July 09, 2018, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 09, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Seri is not a centre half or a forward or a right sided midfielder is he? In which case why are we even entertaining the idea we would pay that amount for him?
We need depth in midfield and one way of getting that is to buy better starters.
Every memeber of the squad could be upgraded at present, yes we have stars who will retain their place within the team but we need to keep upgrading when and where we can
Yes we do but we also need to put in players where we have none in a particular position. So paying a huge amount for a player in a position that may well need upgrading but has good cover. Is less of a priority than the gaping holes we have in at least three positions at the moment. Ideally we will do both.
Well we have no cover in this position either. Once Johansen, Cairney or McD are injured who comes in? Cisse, O'Riley, DLT or Edun, that's who... we need more and if it bumps McD or Johansen to sub then thats only a benefit. The bench this year needs to be made up of last years starters.
Also Joka has illuded to that we might be able to play how we did last season so may want to look to switch formations. I think the premier league is only getting stronger and stronger and unfortunately with the squad we have and yh way we played last season we could well be in for a shock when we get picked apart on the pitch.
Im just happy to go up and if we go back down then I wouldn't be annoyed as far more enjoyable league to watch
Premier league will be tough and it will be a struggle to win 10 games I've no doubt about that.Also a slow start will compound it even more.
The championship was great and won't be unhappy if we drop back down.
Championship was only great cause we were winning against lesser n weaker teams. We were actually winning games away and scoring goals for fun.
Regardless how tough it is we should always try to test ourselves and be sucessful at the highest level.
That's the Challenge, to test ourselves at the highest level, that brings its own rewards.
There are only so many times you can win at Preston North End before you start asking yourself, wouldn't I prefer to win at Old Trafford again.
Yes. Tts why in my opinion despite the large number of goals ross mccormack scored for us he will never be regarded as one of the best strikers we had as the standard of play in the championship is much lower compared to the premier league.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 09, 2018, 12:11:05 PM
That's the Challenge, to test ourselves at the highest level, that brings its own rewards.
There are only so many times you can win at Preston North End before you start asking yourself, wouldn't I prefer to win at Old Trafford again.
Exactly. Promotion is progress. Staying content with Championship football is not a route you want to take. Ask Leeds, Forest and potentially Villa fans.
69 pages of what ifs and maybes.... What are the chances of getting to 100 pages WITNOUT signing anyone? 1500.gif
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 09, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 09, 2018, 12:11:05 PM
That's the Challenge, to test ourselves at the highest level, that brings its own rewards.
There are only so many times you can win at Preston North End before you start asking yourself, wouldn't I prefer to win at Old Trafford again.
Exactly. Promotion is progress. Staying content with Championship football is not a route you want to take. Ask Leeds, Forest and potentially Villa fans.
Just edited your sentence for you, sir.
Ask Leeds, Forest and
definetely Villa fans.
There. Much better.
Don't get the happy in the championship attitude. Amazing season last year yes but we may as well stop keeping score and do away with the league system completely if everyone isn't trying to get to the top. We are here because we deserve to be let's give it all and enjoy it
I just hope that you accept fewer victory's and don't turn on slav if it doesn't go well because a lot of you start shouting for the managers head!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 09, 2018, 12:11:05 PM
That's the Challenge, to test ourselves at the highest level, that brings its own rewards.
There are only so many times you can win at Preston North End before you start asking yourself, wouldn't I prefer to win at Old Trafford again.
Think you have to go back to 2003 to find the only win of the PL era at Old Trafford!
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 09, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 09, 2018, 12:11:05 PM
That's the Challenge, to test ourselves at the highest level, that brings its own rewards.
There are only so many times you can win at Preston North End before you start asking yourself, wouldn't I prefer to win at Old Trafford again.
Exactly. Promotion is progress. Staying content with Championship football is not a route you want to take. Ask Leeds, Forest and potentially Villa fans.
Exciting seasons ahead for the first two. Biesla great appointment for Leeds and them and Forest both splashing cash.
You always have to aspire as a club - otherwise you can end up going in the opposite direction - something that we Fulham fans know a lot about.
Being in the Prem gives us a chance to test ourselves against the best, and having all the glamour and media publicity that helps keep Fulham as a successful club, rather than one that the property developer vultures might be buzzing around, as recently with Millwall and Dulwich Hamlet.
Would people really be happy with mid table Championship as Fulham's basic status? - once you're ithe position for several seasons, it gets harder and harder to get out of it, though with a run of poor results you can suddenly find yourself being relegated.
Would fans be happy with being in Div. 1?
The reality in the broad light of day, I would imagine most of us will accept that victories and success are going to be harder to achieve, and Jok our Manager cannot do it on his own.
But it's not Jok that concerns me, he has already proved his value to me.
It's the support from the club which he thoroughly deserves, and who I am not totally convinced really understand the task and the importance of what it takes to not only survive, but to make progress.
Obviously that remains to be seen, but our manager is the least of our worries providing he is convinced by the club, that they are as ambitious as he is, and therefore signing a new illustrious extended contract.
Woolly I thought you promised to bring me a flask of hot cocoa last night,it was chilly in them bushes.😂
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 02:11:07 PM
Woolly I thought you promised to bring me a flask of hot cocoa last night,it was chilly in them bushes.😂
Sorry mince, I was on my way to you when I bumped into Hilda the Tea Lady as she was leaving the premises.
She promised me if I gave her a lift home, she had her own brand of hot cocoa she offered to serve me with.
How could I resist, but I shall make up for it tonight.
However, do you remember an old game called Blow Football Hilda found in her attic, the object is to blow a tiny plastic football through a tube to direct the ball into the opponents net, whilst your opponent is doing the opposite, do you remember that board game.
Well our match went into extra time, but was eventually abandoned when Hilda ran out of cocoa.
My brother and I as kids made up a British Cup,we had a few games lasting 10 mins each in the winter nights...Took weeks to complete with the draw for all the rounds..
Still remember the winners to this day,Stirling Albion beat Portsmouth in the final.⚽⚽⚽
After that marathon, did you need an Oxygen Tank to recuperate.
WEST HAM SIGN WILSHERE
West Ham have signed Jack Wilshere on a three-year contract.
Means we are getting Seri, right? 049:gif :drums: :clap_hands: 082.gif :wine:
Birmingham City are now under a transfer embargo, apparently.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 09, 2018, 12:32:57 PM
I just hope that you accept fewer victory's and don't turn on slav if it doesn't go well because a lot of you start shouting for the managers head!
Exactly....... Joka has done a fantastic job with the players he has been given. Some wre all too quick to poo poo Joka for poor performance when he could not effect the squad recruitment as much as he would like.
After two seasons of struggling early on some would have thought that the club would have learnt from previous mistakes - apparently not.
I just hope they don't expect the amazing recoveries that we have experienced in the second halves of the last two seasons.
Even if we sign Kalas, Mitrovic and Piazon who know the way we play neither Kalas or Piazon featured much towards the end of the season. Fulham don't make it easy for themselves.
Just DONT blame JOKA!!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 02:44:37 PM
My brother and I as kids made up a British Cup,we had a few games lasting 10 mins each in the winter nights...Took weeks to complete with the draw for all the rounds..
Still remember the winners to this day,Stirling Albion beat Portsmouth in the final.⚽⚽⚽
I thought his name was Stirling Hayden, he was also in the Film The Godfather.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
WEST HAM SIGN WILSHERE
West Ham have signed Jack Wilshere on a three-year contract.
Means we are getting Seri, right? 049:gif :drums: :clap_hands: 082.gif :wine:
Wilshire apparently worried he wouldn't get 1st team football at Fulham because of Tom cairney.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 09, 2018, 02:52:40 PM
Birmingham City are now under a transfer embargo, apparently.
Good ol' 'Arry still that ruining touch then.
Quote from: Tabby on July 09, 2018, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 09, 2018, 02:52:40 PM
Birmingham City are now under a transfer embargo, apparently.
Good ol' 'Arry still that ruining touch then.
Just don't get why clubs will still employ that man. Deserved or not, he has a fairly nasty track record as far as financial impacts to the clubs who hire him.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 09, 2018, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 09, 2018, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 09, 2018, 02:52:40 PM
Birmingham City are now under a transfer embargo, apparently.
Good ol' 'Arry still that ruining touch then.
Just don't get why clubs will still employ that man. Deserved or not, he has a fairly nasty track record as far as financial impacts to the clubs who hire him.
Button to Brighton likelihood is now up to 4.6/5 on sky. New keeper incoming?
West Ham signed Wilshire, that 20m lad from France, Freddo and Yarmolenko undergoing a medical ahead of a 17m move, plus a CB confirmed by his club that a fee agreed...
For once they're making some really good moves and splashing cash without going totally crazy. Some really good moves in there. I've been patient so far but please god Fulham sign some decent players soon!
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 09, 2018, 03:49:18 PM
West Ham signed Wilshire, that 20m lad from France, Freddo and Yarmolenko undergoing a medical ahead of a 17m move, plus a CB confirmed by his club that a fee agreed...
For once they're making some really good moves and splashing cash without going totally crazy. Some really good lives in there. I've been patient so far but please god Fulham sign some decent players soon!
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Fredericks decision making more sense.
Will be fascinating to see how they get on.
That's Wolves and West Ham so far who have grabbed my attention! COYW!
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Quote from: David I on July 09, 2018, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 09, 2018, 12:32:57 PM
I just hope that you accept fewer victory's and don't turn on slav if it doesn't go well because a lot of you start shouting for the managers head!
Exactly....... Joka has done a fantastic job with the players he has been given. Some wre all too quick to poo poo Joka for poor performance when he could not effect the squad recruitment as much as he would like.
After two seasons of struggling early on some would have thought that the club would have learnt from previous mistakes - apparently not.
I just hope they don't expect the amazing recoveries that we have experienced in the second halves of the last two seasons.
Even if we sign Kalas, Mitrovic and Piazon who know the way we play neither Kalas or Piazon featured much towards the end of the season. Fulham don't make it easy for themselves.
Just DONT blame JOKA!!
on message boards in general you get carried away when successful and fury when you don't keep winning,and I don't want to see slav pushed out by fans when we struggle in the premier league as people have short memories!
Apparently there's been a bid of 18m rejects by Besiktas for Vida. Doesn't say who from but also said that they're looking for 35mil. Which put us out of the race for him....
Translated article:
Besiktas Vida rejected 18 million euros!
Domagoj Vida continues to increase his talents day by day as he frequently mentioned his name in the 2018 World Cup. Final Devler Ligi finalist Liverpool, 18 million euros for Croatian footballer, while the black-and-white administration, 35 million euros.
Domagoj Vida, who has made great work with the Croatian National Team at the 2018 World Cup, where all football fans follow with great enthusiasm, is adding value both day by day and increasing his tales.
Throughout the tournament, the 29-year-old player, with his unmistakable defensive image, recorded his second goal in the last encounter with host Russia and made no mistakes in the series penalty shoot-outs. Experienced defensive player who follows the giants of the game that he put forth in Russia, finally last year, Champions League finalist Liverpool sued.
Everton, West Ham and Fulham ...
The British representative offered a total of € 18 million (£ 96 million) for Vida, who joined the squad for free last season. However, the Black-and-White administration rejected the proposal without considering it, asking the Kırmızılılar for 35 million euros (188 million TL). The Croatian stopper, President Fikret Orman and his team, who indicated that they would not put it under this figure, also underlined that there were many talaibis of Vida at the same time. It is known that Everton, West Ham United and Fulham are interested in the screw.
Proposals are evaluated
The management of Beşiktaş, which will go down by 35 percent on the budget of the football team, plans to evaluate all the proposals to its players. Indicating that they can sell every footballer who finds value at every opportunity, Forest aims to make a big profit from Vida, which was transferred about 6 months ago without charge.
Link: http://www.fanatik.com.tr/2018/07/08/besiktas-vida-icin-18-milyon-euro-yu-reddetti-1382844
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
Mitrovic
Cavaleiro
Piazon
Kalas
Would these signings make us happy if they went through in the next 2 weeks?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
that would be great news.
Jean Michael Seri is set to complete a move to Fulham in the next week the deal is set to trigger Seri's release Clause of £35 Million pounds and is set to smash Fulham's Transfer Record. SOURCE: Various
Any one actually think theres any chance?
buy a center back after a good international tournament like the last euros....whats the worst that could happen 064.gif 064.gif 064.gif
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Jean Michael Seri is set to complete a move to Fulham in the next week the deal is set to trigger Seri's release Clause of £35 Million pounds and is set to smash Fulham's Transfer Record. SOURCE: Various
Any one actually think theres any chance?
Can't see us paying that for a player.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Jean Michael Seri is set to complete a move to Fulham in the next week the deal is set to trigger Seri's release Clause of £35 Million pounds and is set to smash Fulham's Transfer Record. SOURCE: Various
Any one actually think theres any chance?
Can't see us paying that for a player.
that would be outrageous that shad would pay that amount ,but a real statement of intent!
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
Mitrovic
Cavaleiro
Piazon
Kalas
Would these signings make us happy if they went through in the next 2 weeks?
Sadly not - we desperately need a top, top quality centre back. I really like Kalas but he would be good as back up but not as first choice.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
I looked on the Newcastle site earlier and couldn't see Mitro in any of the training photos. He could have had his back turned, of course but I didn't see him.
Quote from: Holders on July 09, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
I looked on the Newcastle site earlier and couldn't see Mitro in any of the training photos. He could have had his back turned, of course but I didn't see him.
He's probably still on holiday/just coming back from holiday considering his last World Cup game was a week and a half ago.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
Would put money on the unnamed Centre-Back being Fabian Schär. Fits the profile of Fulham signings and he's got a very, very low release clause because Deportivo went down.
Only WC cb's we've actually been linked with are Vida and the Russian lad afaik.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 09, 2018, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Jean Michael Seri is set to complete a move to Fulham in the next week the deal is set to trigger Seri's release Clause of £35 Million pounds and is set to smash Fulham's Transfer Record. SOURCE: Various
Any one actually think theres any chance?
Can't see us paying that for a player.
that would be outrageous that shad would pay that amount ,but a real statement of intent!
Seri went odds on to join us last night, not sure which bookie had it. Wasn't sure what was driving the rumors, but I suppose it is within the realm of possibility? Maybe he relishes being the big fish in a small pond for a season or two? Or maybe Shad dumped a truckload of money on his front lawn?
Everywhere I look on the internet now is just referencing seri to Chelsea.
Arsenal apparently is a no go.
No-one is really mentioning us so I'm not sure where all the 'sources' linking him to us in the last 24 hours come from
Quote from: Rambler on July 09, 2018, 04:49:39 PM
Everywhere I look on the internet now is just referencing seri to Chelsea.
Arsenal apparently is a no go.
No-one is really mentioning us so I'm not sure where all the 'sources' linking him to us in the last 24 hours come from
snap - i cant find anything that says he is even considering us let alone likely to
Quote from: Rambler on July 09, 2018, 04:49:39 PM
Everywhere I look on the internet now is just referencing seri to Chelsea.
Arsenal apparently is a no go.
No-one is really mentioning us so I'm not sure where all the 'sources' linking him to us in the last 24 hours come from
maybe he was in the golden lion pub.
Quote from: Statto on July 09, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
If we're haggling over the price of Mitro and Kalas then it's safe to assume we won't be bringing Seri or anyone else in for £35m
If we are not haggling over the price of kalas then somone needs sacking. 10 mill for a back up player who lost his place to a right footed left back
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
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Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 09, 2018, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: deano_632 on July 09, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
We are still in for Cavaleiro, we are upping bid to club record £16m...... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-new-suitors-in-for-16m-wolves-winger
Talksport just confirmed this will go through along with Mitro in next couple of days...
Also saying were interested in an un-named world cup centre back.
I wait with bated breath.😡
Who wants unnamed on the back of their new strip(if it ever comes out).😂
Mitrovic
Cavaleiro
Piazon
Kalas
Would these signings make us happy if they went through in the next 2 weeks?
No. I don't see Piazon as Prem quality. Kalas would only be cover. Mitro, great stuff. But only Cavaleiro would be strengthening on last season and one is not enough.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2018, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 09, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
If we're haggling over the price of Mitro and Kalas then it's safe to assume we won't be bringing Seri or anyone else in for £35m
If we are not haggling over the price of kalas then somone needs sacking. 10 mill for a back up player who lost his place to a right footed left back
Lol. To put it another way; if we are haggling for Kalas at c. £10m then someone needs sacking!
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
I get that but players values have skyrocketed and a player that is 30m today was £15m 12 months ago.
If his boy says "Dad Fulham need this player for 30m", he will get his cheque book out and sign it off.
Plea's signing for Borussia Monchengladbach, so cross that one off of the potentials list.
I was worried about going after African players, when we could be losing them for 2-3 weeks during the African Nations Cup. However, after checking, the 2019 tournament will take place in June and July.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
I get that but players values have skyrocketed and a player that is 30m today was £15m 12 months ago.
If his boy says "Dad Fulham need this player for 30m", he will get his cheque book out and sign it off.
Considering the money involved, Football must be one of the most technologically retarded industries if transfers still revolve around cheque books and fax machines.
Michail Antonio Apprently available. Could be a good option for us
Quote from: bencher on July 09, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
I get that but players values have skyrocketed and a player that is 30m today was £15m 12 months ago.
If his boy says "Dad Fulham need this player for 30m", he will get his cheque book out and sign it off.
Considering the money involved, Football must be one of the most technologically retarded industries if transfers still revolve around cheque books and fax machines.
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Maybe not cheque books but that was a figure of speech.
However fax machines are still used.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: bencher on July 09, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
I get that but players values have skyrocketed and a player that is 30m today was £15m 12 months ago.
If his boy says "Dad Fulham need this player for 30m", he will get his cheque book out and sign it off.
Considering the money involved, Football must be one of the most technologically retarded industries if transfers still revolve around cheque books and fax machines.
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Maybe not cheque books but that was a figure of speech.
However fax machines are still used.
Fax machines are used because they're legally binding or something to that effect. I remember there was a big thing about it when De Gea didn't go to Real because of a dodgy one.
Fax machines are still used for deals with signatures. Which is just a relic basically, but some are old school.
I keep checking this thread every 2-3 days for what seems like ages now ... hmmm come on Fulham get your arse in gear I only hope there's a plan i place to back the manager and give him a chance to hit the ground running.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
We're in for Augustinsson again according to the Daily Mail.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 09, 2018, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: bencher on July 09, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
I get that but players values have skyrocketed and a player that is 30m today was £15m 12 months ago.
If his boy says "Dad Fulham need this player for 30m", he will get his cheque book out and sign it off.
Considering the money involved, Football must be one of the most technologically retarded industries if transfers still revolve around cheque books and fax machines.
.
Maybe not cheque books but that was a figure of speech.
However fax machines are still used.
Fax machines are used because they're legally binding or something to that effect. I remember there was a big thing about it when De Gea didn't go to Real because of a dodgy one.
I cannot believe they still use faxes, we close multi million dollar financings on pdf'ed signed documents, there are always originals but at time of closing the lawyers send through the PDFs by email. "Man surprised by arcane rules and procedures involved with UEFA and the FA" ..of course they still use faxes..
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
Trust me mate & I mean this with all due respect, he knows far more than you & I about what we can or cant spend .
Does it for a living & is a Fulham fanatic with contacts at the club & is probably more qualified to talk about our finances than other Fulham fan I know, so if he tells me that is what we can potentially spend then I'm inclined to believe him .
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 09, 2018, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
Trust me mate & I mean this with all due respect, he knows far more than you & I about what we can or cant spend .
Does it for a living & is a Fulham fanatic with contacts at the club & is probably more qualified to talk about our finances than other Fulham fan I know, so if he tells me that is what we can potentially spend then I'm inclined to believe him .
You carry on then but I would take it with a pinch of salt but good on him.
Some people claim to be in the know on signings..... still waiting for those signings
Back to transfers!
West Ham have said they'd sell antonio for £15m would anyone take him?
I don't suppose it's too far fetched to imagine Mitrovic has a 2 week holiday after the final Serbia game I.e. Wednesday onwards is fair game for a potential signature?
Quote from: MJG on July 09, 2018, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 09:27:49 PM
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
A legitimate question. When coming up with those figures, does the ability (hypothetically) of selling Sess for 40 mill in the summer of 2019-20 come in to the estimation of spend for FFP or no?
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
A legitimate question. When coming up with those figures, does the ability (hypothetically) of selling Sess for 40 mill in the summer of 2019-20 come in to the estimation of spend for FFP or no?
I'm sure somone will know more than me, but as I see it a club can make a loss of 105 million over 3 years. So we could technically blow that this year which would mean about a 200 million pound spend, give or take a kalas or two. And the other ffp rule is wages at around 63 million.
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 09, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 09, 2018, 06:07:07 PM
Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
A legitimate question. When coming up with those figures, does the ability (hypothetically) of selling Sess for 40 mill in the summer of 2019-20 come in to the estimation of spend for FFP or no?
I'm sure somone will know more than me, but as I see it a club can make a loss of 105 million over 3 years. So we could technically blow that this year which would mean about a 200 million pound spend, give or take a kalas or two. And the other ffp rule is wages at around 63 million.
I used to know all the rules in The Champ. But I'm completely in the dark on Premier FFP. Can you give me a rough idea?
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Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
A legitimate question. When coming up with those figures, does the ability (hypothetically) of selling Sess for 40 mill in the summer of 2019-20 come in to the estimation of spend for FFP or no?
An interesting article on ffp
https://fypfanzine.uk/analysis/6888-financial-fair-play-what-is-it-and-do-only-palace-care-about-it
only rule seems to cant lose over 105m in 3 years
Try this one scrumpy. It's from a crystal Palace site but cuts out all the nonsense
https://fypfanzine.uk/analysis/6888-financial-fair-play-what-is-it-and-do-only-palace-care-about-it
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Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
A legitimate question. When coming up with those figures, does the ability (hypothetically) of selling Sess for 40 mill in the summer of 2019-20 come in to the estimation of spend for FFP or no?
An interesting article on ffp
https://fypfanzine.uk/analysis/6888-financial-fair-play-what-is-it-and-do-only-palace-care-about-it
only rule seems to cant lose over 105m in 3 years
Actually no, its not just the amount, its the increase. The biggest issue for FFC is the STCC, if you had read to the bottom you would have had cold sweats over. This says at least for 2018-2109 the increase in wage bill is limited to £7 million per year. There is the ability to add non-TV revenue to the pot but to put that £7 million in perspective, that would be 10 players at 14k per week or if you remember that the Prem average salary is around £40k per week that means we can add 3 players at average wages.
Our wage base was low - thanks to the Championship but you would have to assume Cairney for sure, Sess and others will be looking for major pay rises. Are you starting to see why Fredericks was never going to be given a third of our STCC cap to stay?
So the solutions are:
1. Extra revenue - new shirt deal, new official "car/hamburger/estate agent" of Fulham type deals. That money can go to salaries over the £7miil.
2. Pay high sign on fees and have wages step up each year of the contract - we get at least another £7mill in 2019/20 and likely will be increased. The player and agent book some of the signing fee into that year's income to make the first year salary seem its higher than w ecan pay within STCC cap. As long as those sign on fees dont trip up the longer term £105million loss.
3. Sell players and book gains over what their position on our accounts is, any profit increases the £7m pool.
4. Loans where we pay a high loan fee but the loaning club pays half or other share of the salary.
What it does mean is that we will be boxing clever and that explains why there has not been lots of flashy signings. My guess is they have to do the business with Cairney, Ream, Sess and any others from last year who they think are vulnerable before they know how much they actually have to spend of the £7mm. That then determines what deal structure they will need once they have the player interested at a basic level.
The benchmark was £67 million. So in a way we could go all the way up to £67 but you would then need to be sure that you stayed up or you get killed upon relegation as most players, it seems, do not agree relegation clauses.
Does anyone know what our 2017-18 wage bill was?
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Just cant see us spending 30M on a player if we only have 80 to 100m to spend. I know I keep going on but we need a lot of players and the money aint going to spread that far. Still happy to be proved wrong.
Who has said anything about 80-100m transfer budget??
We have an owner who puts us in the top bracket of wealthiest owners, if the signings are there he is hardly going to limit the club to this magic "£80-100" figure!
Doesn't matter how wealthy he is, we still have to abide by FFP. A friend of mine who works for accountants involved with football clubs & is very well informed on FFP reckons we could have up to £90m max to spend depending on how the deals are structured
Based on what, does your friend know how much our sponsorship deals are worth or if Shad wants to do some personal loan to the club?? Appriciate he might have a knowledge but to pluck 90m out the sky is obsurd.
Edit: what the club wants to spend and what we can we will never know and nor will they ever announce it.
that is very true, but you can make an educated guess based on both Fulhams past accounts, other clubs following promotion, PL finances and cost of players.
I think the 90m is about right as a max spend with no outgoings. But I'd be surprised if we spend in excess of 60m this summer.
A legitimate question. When coming up with those figures, does the ability (hypothetically) of selling Sess for 40 mill in the summer of 2019-20 come in to the estimation of spend for FFP or no?
I'm sure somone will know more than me, but as I see it a club can make a loss of 105 million over 3 years. So we could technically blow that this year which would mean about a 200 million pound spend, give or take a kalas or two. And the other ffp rule is wages at around 63 million.
Yeah, I was curious in MJG's estimation if that included the potential sale of current assets in the 90 million figure he totaled. You know in a doomsday type situation where the club gets relegated right away.
With amortization, my understanding is a negative 90 million dollar net transfer spend does not equate a 90 million loss this year depending on contracts.
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The benchmark was £67 million. So in a way we could go all the way up to £67 but you would then need to be sure that you stayed up or you get killed upon relegation as most players, it seems, do not agree relegation clauses.
Yes sorry 67 not 63. But as I understand it that was in 16/17. In 17/18 it was 74 and next year 81. As I said above, take a look at the PL rules online for yourself - that's just my interpretation
As to the other point IMO you have to go up to that level and take the risk. Our rivals will. If you try to stay within a championship budget you just guarantee the occurrence of the very thing you're afraid of, relegation.
Our 17/18 wage bill would have been around 30m - 35m I'm pretty sure (accounts not out until next march/april)
Yes, you are right its £81m and that does change matters significantly if you want to throw the dice and pay salaries. You still have to be able to find the cash.
So the question then does come back to how much can we finance in transfer fees and salaries?
Come on Fulham, get us exited,this is getting boring.
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29 days left and not a player in sight 🆘 💣
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29 days left and not a player in sight 🆘 💣
in the words of the song ,we're sending out an SOS .
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29 days left and not a player in sight 🆘 💣
in the words of the song ,we're sending out an SOS .
Are we signing Edwin Starr ?
Dortmund are in for Seri now
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/986419/Chelsea-Transfer-News-Jean-Michael-Seri-London
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Yep nobody did say 80M plus other than me, but the amount of first team and squad players needed surley you wont spend 30M on a single player, thats my point really.
faxes are still used as they are a legally accepted binding document where emails arent
I get that but players values have skyrocketed and a player that is 30m today was £15m 12 months ago.
If his boy says "Dad Fulham need this player for 30m", he will get his cheque book out and sign it off.
Considering the money involved, Football must be one of the most technologically retarded industries if transfers still revolve around cheque books and fax machines.
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 10, 2018, 12:51:38 AM
With amortization, my understanding is a negative 90 million dollar net transfer spend does not equate a 90 million loss this year depending on contracts.
Correct, the transfer fee is spread over the life of the players contract, so if you pay £20m for a player on a 5 year contract then you report it as £4m per year.
I listened to this excellent podcast on FFP recently:
https://soundcloud.com/ntt20pod/70-the-money-pod-with-kieran-maguire
Even though it focuses on the football league it does explain how the finances work
According to this, Fulham are in advanced negotiations with Nice regarding Seri and has offered €20m.
https://www.francefootball.fr/news/Mercato-fulham-tient-la-corde-pour-enroler-jean-michael-seri-nice/921252
Quote from: twang on July 10, 2018, 12:05:50 PM
According to this, Fulham are in advanced negotiations with Nice regarding Seri and has offered €20m.
https://www.francefootball.fr/news/Mercato-fulham-tient-la-corde-pour-enroler-jean-michael-seri-nice/921252
This transfer is such a tease. I won't believe it until it happens but I'll also be gutted if we don't sign him because he's almost a carbon copy of Kante and will get even more valuable as time goes on and would be a joy to watch in a Fulham shirt
All those figures running into millions and millions are frightening.
I was much more comfortable and excited in the days when I played football on the Scrubs on a Sunday morning and was then able to watch Fulham and players 100 times better than me who were paid about 3 times my weekly wage as a draughtsman.
Surely if footballers wages are allowed to continue unchecked the whole set up will implode.
Deary me, can you imagine Seri and Mitrovic announced on same day.....
https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1016646114190209025 Now a done deal according to Sky reporter.
Di Marzio from Sky reporting that the Seri Deal is done. Other sources speculate we activated his release cause with a 35m bid. https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1016646114190209025
Nothing on sky sports yet about it.
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According to this, Fulham are in advanced negotiations with Nice regarding Seri and has offered €20m.
https://www.francefootball.fr/news/Mercato-fulham-tient-la-corde-pour-enroler-jean-michael-seri-nice/921252
This transfer is such a tease. I won't believe it until it happens but I'll also be gutted if we don't sign him because he's almost a carbon copy of Kante and will get even more valuable as time goes on and would be a joy to watch in a Fulham shirt
He's nothing like Kante other than being short and black. He's more of a creative box-to-box midfielder (basically if he does sign, still have my doubts despite the DiMarzio tweet, he'd be replacing Johansen rather than McDonald).
The same reporter's article on the matter is found below. Fee around €20m as reported earlier. Player waiting for his visa. Announcement expected later today or tomorrow.
Won't believe it until it's official... what a statement signing this would be.
https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/fulham-fatta-per-seri-le-cifre-dellaccordo
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The same reporter's article on the matter is found below. Fee around €20m as reported earlier. Player waiting for his visa. Announcement expected later today or tomorrow.
Won't believe it until it's official... what a statement signing this would be.
https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/fulham-fatta-per-seri-le-cifre-dellaccordo
This is massive!!
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Don't get too excited until it's reported on more reputable sources.
Holy crap. I didn't think we had it in us....
I will wait for the offal
I'll also be waiting for the offal before getting carried away, much like Mitro.
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Fulham confident that deals for Seri, Mitrovic and Augustinsson will all be over the line soon
he also tweeted this which is brilliant news if true....
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The contract talks with Jokanovic progressing well too, so expect him to extend his stay at Fulham
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Those three plus Joka would make for a very good week indeed!
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I still doubt he's signing for us. Thought all along he'd go to Dortmund with Lucien Favre going there, but if I see him posing with the scarf at Motspur Park then...
Feeling sceptical still.
£17.7 mil for someone wanted by Chelsea, Arsenal, Dortmund and Barca (1 year ago).
Plus his YouTube highlights look excellent - has got a serious eye for a pass.
Too good to be true!
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/07/10/claim-from-france-chelsea-still-in-race-jean-michael-seri-not-convinced-about-fulham/382181/
Sorry to bearer of bad news
lets stay positive. its obvious that Dortmund would be a more appealing destination but something in the sky reporters tweet makes me think we are closer than many think. im sure sky reporters are well versed on not confirming transfers before they are done or breaking a story as sealed as they would then need to issue a retraction and thus making their future "scoops" less believable. im not saying im 100% convinced but im more than inclined to put faith in the sky story. would be amazing if we did it and with the new kit to be launched tomorrow, is there something in there that there is a new signing to coincide with the release?
Wet spam are splashing some cash this transfer window, talk about backing the manager
West Ham are really going for it this summer. They're after everyone it seems, but have made some very good purchases.
I really hope we get Mitro and Seri in, but I have a bad feeling that we're being used by the agent to get a bigger deal. Regardless of the outcomes, we need to crack on with signing some players. The squad is so small currently
West Ham is going to become like Sunderland. Splashing cash around has consequences.
If you don't splash you won't make waves though
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If you don't splash you won't make waves though
Wilshere will probably manage 5 games this season before his knees go. He will still be taking his 60K+ a week though. No thanks!
Can't help but be sceptical of West Ham. They've been billed to be able to compete with the top clubs for three years straight now.
Wouldn't mind some of their signings though, to be honest.
wow Ronaldo has gone to Juve. £105m
Quote from: Ordar on July 10, 2018, 04:42:09 PM
wow Ronaldo has gone to Juve. £105m
Thought it was a joke rumour to begin with, but here we are.
If all these deals go through .. seeing West Ham and Wolves strengthen as they have... Premiership will surely be he undisputed best league in the world. The quality of even the bottom clubs is astounding!
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on July 10, 2018, 04:19:14 PM
West Ham is going to become like Sunderland. Splashing cash around has consequences.
Think they might have bought better quality than the Mackems,and got a top manager in the driving seat as well.
West Ham have no new stand to finance and it would seem their rent is too low at that huge stadium they occupy.
Quote from: filham on July 10, 2018, 06:23:44 PM
West Ham have no new stand to finance and it would seem their rent is too low at that huge stadium they occupy.
New stand development doesn't come into FFP and I believe is a payment from SK.
Another day gone and nobody through the door.😂😂😂
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
Another day gone and nobody through the door.😂😂😂
That is not completely accurate, as our number 1 Lookout, who was stationed in amongst the tumbleweed at Motspur Park, reported having a visual of a lone Delivery Driver carrying another box of second hand paper clips through the tradesmens entrance only this afternoon.
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Another day gone and nobody through the door.😂😂😂
That is not completely accurate, as a delivery driver was seen carrying another box of paper clips through the tradesmens entrance only this afternoon.
I do wish you would stop mentioning the 'Tradesmans Entrance'.
Especially, after 11pm! 😂
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
Another day gone and nobody through the door.😂😂😂
That is not completely accurate, as a delivery driver was seen carrying another box of paper clips through the tradesmens entrance only this afternoon.
I do wish you would stop mentioning the 'Tradesmans Entrance'.
Especially, after 11pm! 😂
Sorry, force of habit, ex matelot and all that, must have been the roll of the sea.
Or was it a roll of Lino.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 10, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
Another day gone and nobody through the door.😂😂😂
That is not completely accurate, as a delivery driver was seen carrying another box of paper clips through the tradesmens entrance only this afternoon.
I do wish you would stop mentioning the 'Tradesmans Entrance'.
Especially, after 11pm! 😂
Sorry, force of habit, ex matelot and all that, must have been the roll of the sea.
Or was it a roll of Lino.
Reminds me of being on the Black Pig!
Happy days 😀👍
well with Riyad Mahrez joining Man City that could be the big transfer that sets the transfer windin alight
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Averaging 34k fans before they moved to Stratford. Probably what we'd get if our ground would hold it, so comparably-sized fan bases.
FFS, now ive heard it all, our fan base is comparable to West Ham , give your head a wobble 😣
The Sun reporting it as done, but the time stamp says 1pm on 10th July.
SIGNED, SERI, DELIVERED Fulham beat Chelsea and Arsenal to signing of Nice star Jean-Michael Seri
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6742107/fulham-sign-nice-jean-michael-seri/
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Also, from Nabil Djellit (fairly high profile French journalist) tweeted this:
Seri est arrivé en Angleterre... A Londres pour s'engager normalement avec Fulham. #mercato #Nice
Is it happening?!
Interesting day ahead. Will we see a new signing in the new kit?
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Interesting day ahead. Will we see a new signing in the new kit?
yes I believe we will,it's written in the tea leaves!
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Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Averaging 34k fans before they moved to Stratford. Probably what we'd get if our ground would hold it, so comparably-sized fan bases.
FFS, now ive heard it all, our fan base is comparable to West Ham , give your head a wobble 😣
We were selling out 25k every week when we were last in this division so just out of interest (a) what do you think it would be if we had a larger ground and (b) what would it have to be for you to consider it comparable to 34k?
West Ham have a fanbase far bigger than ours, miles bigger. We're not even close. Support all over the south east & Essex, North Kent etc. Stayed in Southend last year & the amount of people getting off at local stations was incredible. Train after train of them
We averaged 25,000 with a 7200 capacity Putney end practically filled with away fans every week. Also did deals for kids etc. They averaged 54,000 last season & have plans to increase capacity.
Reckon we'd only fill the 29,600 odd expanded Craven Cottage for big games & again by making a disproportionate amount of away tickets available.
As a club they've been no better than for us for 20 years but we'll never have their support. Arsenal mates tell me they nearly outnumbered them at Highbury in the FA cup QF in 75, there was nearly 60k there
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Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Averaging 34k fans before they moved to Stratford. Probably what we'd get if our ground would hold it, so comparably-sized fan bases.
FFS, now ive heard it all, our fan base is comparable to West Ham , give your head a wobble 😣
We were selling out 25k every week when we were last in this division so just out of interest (a) what do you think it would be if we had a larger ground and (b) what would it have to be for you to consider it comparable to 34k?
West Ham have a fanbase far bigger than ours, miles bigger. We're not even close. Support all over the south east & Essex, North Kent etc. Stayed in Southend last year & the amount of people getting off at local stations was incredible. Train after train of them
We averaged 25,000 with a 7200 capacity Putney end practically filled with away fans every week. Also did deals for kids etc. They averaged 54,000 last season & have plans to increase capacity.
Reckon we'd only fill the 29,600 odd expanded Craven Cottage for big games & again by making a disproportionate amount of away tickets available.
As a club they've been no better than for us for 20 years but we'll never have their support. Arsenal mates tell me they nearly outnumbered them at Highbury in the FA cup QF in 75, there was nearly 60k there
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Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2018, 12:55:27 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 11, 2018, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Averaging 34k fans before they moved to Stratford. Probably what we'd get if our ground would hold it, so comparably-sized fan bases.
FFS, now ive heard it all, our fan base is comparable to West Ham , give your head a wobble 😣
We were selling out 25k every week when we were last in this division so just out of interest (a) what do you think it would be if we had a larger ground and (b) what would it have to be for you to consider it comparable to 34k?
West Ham have a fanbase far bigger than ours, miles bigger. We're not even close. Support all over the south east & Essex, North Kent etc. Stayed in Southend last year & the amount of people getting off at local stations was incredible. Train after train of them
We averaged 25,000 with a 7200 capacity Putney end practically filled with away fans every week. Also did deals for kids etc. They averaged 54,000 last season & have plans to increase capacity.
Reckon we'd only fill the 29,600 odd expanded Craven Cottage for big games & again by making a disproportionate amount of away tickets available.
As a club they've been no better than for us for 20 years but we'll never have their support. Arsenal mates tell me they nearly outnumbered them at Highbury in the FA cup QF in 75, there was nearly 60k there
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Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2018, 12:55:27 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 11, 2018, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 10, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Averaging 34k fans before they moved to Stratford. Probably what we'd get if our ground would hold it, so comparably-sized fan bases.
FFS, now ive heard it all, our fan base is comparable to West Ham , give your head a wobble 😣
We were selling out 25k every week when we were last in this division so just out of interest (a) what do you think it would be if we had a larger ground and (b) what would it have to be for you to consider it comparable to 34k?
West Ham have a fanbase far bigger than ours, miles bigger. We're not even close. Support all over the south east & Essex, North Kent etc. Stayed in Southend last year & the amount of people getting off at local stations was incredible. Train after train of them
We averaged 25,000 with a 7200 capacity Putney end practically filled with away fans every week. Also did deals for kids etc. They averaged 54,000 last season & have plans to increase capacity.
Reckon we'd only fill the 29,600 odd expanded Craven Cottage for big games & again by making a disproportionate amount of away tickets available.
As a club they've been no better than for us for 20 years but we'll never have their support. Arsenal mates tell me they nearly outnumbered them at Highbury in the FA cup QF in 75, there was nearly 60k there
100% correct , they are a massive club compared to us, to compare us to West Ham has got to be the most stupid , idiotic thing I've ever read on here, the lack of football knowledge is truly astounding.
Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2018, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 11, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
We averaged 25,000 with a 7200 capacity Putney end practically filled with away fans every week. Also did deals for kids etc. They averaged 54,000 last season & have plans to increase capacity.
Reckon we'd only fill the 29,600 odd expanded Craven Cottage for big games & again by making a disproportionate amount of away tickets available.
Disagree with this point, we weren't getting 7,000 away fans every week, and also the rationale for developing the riverside was always that we were selling out, and would therefore consistently fill a larger capacity, not just for for big games. if we can stay up for a few years until the new stand is built we'll be getting 30,000 every week
However going back to West Ham, I thought both Upton Park and the Stratford stadium were bigger than 34,000 and 55,000 respectively, didn't realise they were selling out those grounds, so in fairness you're right overall, beyond those figures there's clearly an even bigger market for tickets there
Every single time we played Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Man Utd ,Liverpool, Everton & quite often Newcastle & Villa the whole Putney end was filled people supporting them. The neutral was just another term for an unofficial away section. Yes there were a few Fulham in there for the lesser lights but for the big games, & I sat there for a few, we were completely overwhelmed
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Quote from: Statto on July 11, 2018, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 11, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
We averaged 25,000 with a 7200 capacity Putney end practically filled with away fans every week. Also did deals for kids etc. They averaged 54,000 last season & have plans to increase capacity.
Reckon we'd only fill the 29,600 odd expanded Craven Cottage for big games & again by making a disproportionate amount of away tickets available.
Disagree with this point, we weren't getting 7,000 away fans every week, and also the rationale for developing the riverside was always that we were selling out, and would therefore consistently fill a larger capacity, not just for for big games. if we can stay up for a few years until the new stand is built we'll be getting 30,000 every week
However going back to West Ham, I thought both Upton Park and the Stratford stadium were bigger than 34,000 and 55,000 respectively, didn't realise they were selling out those grounds, so in fairness you're right overall, beyond those figures there's clearly an even bigger market for tickets there
Every single time we played Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Man Utd ,Liverpool, Everton & quite often Newcastle & Villa the whole Putney end was filled people supporting them. The neutral was just another term for an unofficial away section. Yes there were a few Fulham in there for the lesser lights but for the big games, & I sat there for a few, we were completely overwhelmed
Also think the main driver for the new Riverside stand was more about bringing the facilities up to a modern standard.
I don't always agree with Statto but in all fairness Riversider he did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong before your post.
Transfer News????.
Wijnaldrum leaving Liverpool. He'd be a great signing and certainly less of a name than Seri... would be a worthwhile backup to him IMO for when the inevitable happens and we lose out on him.
11:19
FULHAM IN SERI TALKS
Fulham and Nice in talks over the signing of midfielder Jean-Michael Seri, report Sky sources.
Sources close to the player have told us he is in London.
No fee has been agreed, but Seri's release clause is £35m. The clause expires on Sunday.
However, Fulham are only prepared to pay around £18m and have concerns they could be outbid by another club.
Chelsea are also interested.
Give me a spell.... please.
Quote from: corbs83 on July 11, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
11:19
FULHAM IN SERI TALKS
Fulham and Nice in talks over the signing of midfielder Jean-Michael Seri, report Sky sources.
Sources close to the player have told us he is in London.
No fee has been agreed, but Seri's release clause is £35m. The clause expires on Sunday.
However, Fulham are only prepared to pay around £18m and have concerns they could be outbid by another club.
Chelsea are also interested.
He has another release clause - ZERO - when his contract runs out next summer - so just how much is he really worth now?
Brighton still interested in Button apparently.
Talkshi*e Fulham interested in Fraser Foster.
BBC today reporting the Sun as saying that Fulham may have the edge on Arsenal and Chelsea on the signing of Seri.
Good to read that we are in there with those two London big boys but suspect it will stop there.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 11:32:10 AM
Talkshi*e Fulham interested in Fraser Foster.
He'd be terrible for us. I think he's en par if not worse with his feet than Button. Good shot stopper but has been really week in controlling his area and collecting crosses and ball distribution with his feet. A solid no from me. If he signed though i'd obviously support him.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2018, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 11:32:10 AM
Talkshi*e Fulham interested in Fraser Foster.
He'd be terrible for us. I think he's en par if not worse with his feet than Button. Good shot stopper but has been really week in controlling his area and collecting crosses and ball distribution with his feet. A solid no from me. If he signed though i'd obviously support him.
Agreed, I hope this isn't true.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 11, 2018, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 11, 2018, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 11:32:10 AM
Talkshi*e Fulham interested in Fraser Foster.
He'd be terrible for us. I think he's en par if not worse with his feet than Button. Good shot stopper but has been really week in controlling his area and collecting crosses and ball distribution with his feet. A solid no from me. If he signed though i'd obviously support him.
Agreed, I hope this isn't true.
Rather keep button.
Talknonsense,take it with a pinch of salt.
Although they did get a couple correct last week.😂
Sign Scott Carson!!!
Alan Nixon on Twitter:
'Fulham. Seri medical imminent. And left back Le Marchand from Nice close too. Busy.'
Quote from: Hoppus on July 11, 2018, 12:51:51 PM
Alan Nixon on Twitter:
'Fulham. Seri medical imminent. And left back Le Marchand from Nice close too. Busy.'
Sounds like our scouts clearly settled down in Nice and stuck to the vineyards round there..
Should be noted that Le Marchand is a left back in the same way that Ream is a left back. Played most of his games as a left sided central defender.
I kind of feel bad for Nice though, they're currently losing half their team.
If this ends up being true the white wall will have to wear black berets and onions around their necks
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Sounds good, but I prefer Musacchio if I'm honest. We'll see who ends up holding our new kit.
A left footed CB to compete with Ream would be great. Not sure I would want him as a 1st choice LB though.
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 11, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Sounds good, but I prefer Musacchio if I'm honest. We'll see who ends up holding our new kit.
Musacchio is a right sided defender and Le Marchand is left sided - we need at least two centre backs anyway so we might end up with both. It was reported ages ago and I think I might've added it to the transfer rumour thread but Le Marchand is available for abut £4m Euros so he is not expensive at all, meaning we could splash out on Mussachio still.
Jorginho's impending move to Chelsea leaves Fulham confident of completing a deal for Nice midfielder Jean-Michael Seri. Four-year deal with the option of a fifth on the table. Would be a real coup for the Cottagers. More @MirrorFootball
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Quote from: AllyWhite on July 11, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Sounds good, but I prefer Musacchio if I'm honest. We'll see who ends up holding our new kit.
Musacchio is a right sided defender and Le Marchand is left sided - we need at least two centre backs anyway so we might end up with both. It was reported ages ago and I think I might've added it to the transfer rumour thread but Le Marchand is available for abut £4m Euros so he is not expensive at all, meaning we could splash out on Mussachio still.
Could be looking at Kalas and Mus for RCB and Ream and Le March for LCB. I don't think anyone on this forum would object with that for our for as t season back in the Premier league
Another one in the door at West Spam while we keep sitting with our hands under our bum cheeks.
Come on Fulham enough of all the talk and get us excited...⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 11, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:11:40 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 11, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Sounds good, but I prefer Musacchio if I'm honest. We'll see who ends up holding our new kit.
Musacchio is a right sided defender and Le Marchand is left sided - we need at least two centre backs anyway so we might end up with both. It was reported ages ago and I think I might've added it to the transfer rumour thread but Le Marchand is available for abut £4m Euros so he is not expensive at all, meaning we could splash out on Mussachio still.
Could be looking at Kalas and Mus for RCB and Ream and Le March for LCB. I don't think anyone on this forum would object with that for our for as t season back in the Premier league
With Odoi as additional cover.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 11, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:11:40 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 11, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Sounds good, but I prefer Musacchio if I'm honest. We'll see who ends up holding our new kit.
Musacchio is a right sided defender and Le Marchand is left sided - we need at least two centre backs anyway so we might end up with both. It was reported ages ago and I think I might've added it to the transfer rumour thread but Le Marchand is available for abut £4m Euros so he is not expensive at all, meaning we could splash out on Mussachio still.
Could be looking at Kalas and Mus for RCB and Ream and Le March for LCB. I don't think anyone on this forum would object with that for our for as t season back in the Premier league
Can't object, but can't see us grabbing 3 CB's this window either, especially with Odoi as an option. 2 of a good quality would be solid for me. LB, ST, probably RW more pressing than a 3rd
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:11:40 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 11, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 11, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Le Marchand is a good ball playing centre half, fairly nippy for a 6ft defender as well. He played CB for most of his career but last season played a few games at left back for Nice.
Sounds good, but I prefer Musacchio if I'm honest. We'll see who ends up holding our new kit.
Musacchio is a right sided defender and Le Marchand is left sided - we need at least two centre backs anyway so we might end up with both. It was reported ages ago and I think I might've added it to the transfer rumour thread but Le Marchand is available for abut £4m Euros so he is not expensive at all, meaning we could splash out on Mussachio still.
4m Euros?! Sign him up already!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jean-michael-seri-set-35million-12895110
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Another one in the door at West Spam while we keep sitting with our hands under our bum cheeks.
Come on Fulham enough of all the talk and get us excited...⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
🆘 I keep being reminded by the odd passer by, that we have a Top Notch, Crack, Elite, Super, Sharp, Imperial, Competent, Efficient, Polished, A1, On The Boil, Sweet as a Nut, on the Case, Second to None Recruitment Outfit, that can sell sand to an Arab and ice cream to an Eskimo.
So on that basis we have nothing whatsoever to worry about in any shape or form. 🆘
No actual update s anywhere then.
🆘 I keep being reminded by the odd passer by, that we have a Top Notch, Crack, Elite, Super, Sharp, Imperial, Competent, Efficient, Polished, A1, On The Boil, Sweet as a Nut, on the Case, Second to None Recruitment Outfit, that can sell sand to an Arab and ice cream to an Eskimo.
So on that basis we have nothing whatsoever to worry about in any shape or form. 🆘
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Unless you drop your ice cream in the sand of course!
Fulham to sign Maxime Le Marchand from OGC Nice
Premier League side Fulham have agreed a deal with OGC Nice to sign central defender Maxime Le Marchand, according to Nice-Matin.
The Frenchman has quit Nice's pre-season camp in Divonne-les-Bains this afternoon and will now travel to London to complete the move.
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/fulham-to-sign-maxime-le-marchand-from-ogc-nice/
Quote from: twang on July 11, 2018, 03:55:15 PM
Fulham to sign Maxime Le Marchand from OGC Nice
Premier League side Fulham have agreed a deal with OGC Nice to sign central defender Maxime Le Marchand, according to Nice-Matin.
The Frenchman has quit Nice's pre-season camp in Divonne-les-Bains this afternoon and will now travel to London to complete the move.
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/fulham-to-sign-maxime-le-marchand-from-ogc-nice/
That does sound promising for the Nixon rumours. Don't think a local Nice paper would make up something about a player leaving their pre-season camp.
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
We have 4 first team defenders. We need many more.
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
He made 41 appearances last season, he's more than a backup. He's a natural CB but played LB a fair bit whilst Nice's #1 LB was injured last season. Also played 5/6 Europa League group games for them last year as well.
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
Started over 40 games last season, and was played about as much as Seri. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
I can hear it now ..... " Come on Maxine, oh Come on Maxine "
Maxime le Merchand apparently also joining from Nice. LB.
Apologies for the slow post!
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
We have 4 first team defenders. We need many more.
Who's the 4th? Just wondering.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 11, 2018, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
We have 4 first team defenders. We need many more.
Who's the 4th? Just wondering.
Christie, Odoi, Ream, Djalo.
I can tell you his response before he sees your post: "Djalo.. first team??"
Quote from: Milo on July 11, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 11, 2018, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
We have 4 first team defenders. We need many more.
Who's the 4th? Just wondering.
Christie, Odoi, Ream, Djalo.
I can tell you his response before he sees your post: "Djalo.. first team??"
Ding ding, correct.
Quote from: The Rock on July 11, 2018, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 11, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 11, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 11, 2018, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 11, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 11, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
Doesn't start that often so may bea backup.
We have 4 first team defenders. We need many more.
Who's the 4th? Just wondering.
Christie, Odoi, Ream, Djalo.
I can tell you his response before he sees your post: "Djalo.. first team??"
Ding ding, correct.
Well, as of right now, he'd almost have to be. Point taken though.
That's another day Down and the chequebook stays firmly shut.😂😂😂
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 07:57:17 PM
That's another day Down and the chequebook stays firmly shut.😂😂😂
The plane we put on for Le Marchand can't have been free.
Joe Hart to Birmingham being touted.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 07:57:17 PM
That's another day Down and the chequebook stays firmly shut.😂😂😂
The plane we put on for Le Marchand can't have been free.
People forget all the nuts and bolts...
Im expecting the Seri saga to come to an end tomorrow, regardless where he ends up. But - if we'd pull it off - I'd imagine the club would like to announce both The Mercant and Seri at the same time.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 10:25:31 PM
Joe Hart to Birmingham being touted.
Thought they were under an FFP embargo
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 11, 2018, 10:25:31 PM
Joe Hart to Birmingham being touted.
Thought they were under an FFP embargo
You can still do loans and free transfers (with a max wage) under an embargo. Remember we signed Madl, Rohan Ince, Labyad and Baird when we had one.
Courted last season by several cadors including FC Barcelona, Jean Michaël Seri had finally remained in Nice. But a year later, the midfielder should leave the Eagles. If Chelsea and Arsenal were cited as a starting point, it is finally Fulham he will engage.
According to our information, the British team has settled the last details today to afford Seri and Le Marchand for an amount of about £ 30m, almost € 34 million. Except last minute problem, the two players will engage for 4 years and Seri will receive the biggest salary of the club. A double operation performed by Mark McKay and Baba Dramé.
Source: Foot Mercato (Google translated from French)
Quote from: FFC NY on July 12, 2018, 02:22:18 AM
Courted last season by several cadors including FC Barcelona, Jean Michaël Seri had finally remained in Nice. But a year later, the midfielder should leave the Eagles. If Chelsea and Arsenal were cited as a starting point, it is finally Fulham he will engage.
According to our information, the British team has settled the last details today to afford Seri and Le Marchand for an amount of about £ 30m, almost € 34 million. Except last minute problem, the two players will engage for 4 years and Seri will receive the biggest salary of the club. A double operation performed by Mark McKay and Baba Dramé.
Source: Foot Mercato (Google translated from French)
just hope this is factual.
Sounds like complete bs like everything else I read on this thread.
Alan Nixon just tweeted to say that the Seri and Le Marchand seals are done. GFFN also tweeted that the Seri deal is done and he's signing a four year deal.
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Quote from: Rambler on July 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
From everything I've seen and heard of him, he is like a French Tim Ream. Solid defender in Ligue 1, but it is hard to know how it translates.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 12, 2018, 08:09:33 AM
Alan Nixon just tweeted to say that the Seri and Le Marchand seals are done. GFFN also tweeted that the Seri deal is done and he's signing a four year deal.
Don't want to put a damp squib on it but "he is signing" sounds like he hasn't yet!
http://www.nicematin.com/football/le-milieu-de-terrain-de-logc-nice-jean-michael-seri-daccord-avec-fulham-245640 - This is the local paper who cover Nice and are ITK as far as anything in that part of France goes so if they say it's done I'm inclined to believe them (fingers crossed)
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 12, 2018, 08:41:14 AM
http://www.nicematin.com/football/le-milieu-de-terrain-de-logc-nice-jean-michael-seri-daccord-avec-fulham-245640 - This is the local paper who cover Nice and are ITK as far as anything in that part of France goes so if they say it's done I'm inclined to believe them (fingers crossed)
"in the following hours" so it's not done.
All over sky sports now saying double deal for £30million
Quote from: Andyb on July 12, 2018, 08:42:27 AM
All over sky sports now saying double deal for £30million
Talksport saying medicals imminent.
Great News let's get it over the line.. 049:gif
Bryan Ruiz signed for Santos until Dec 2020
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: Andyb on July 12, 2018, 08:42:27 AM
All over sky sports now saying double deal for £30million
Talksport saying medicals imminent.
Great News let's get it over the line.. 049:gif
A Striker would be nice :)
Anyone else agree??
Quote from: elgreenio on July 12, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
Bryan Ruiz signed for Santos until Dec 2020
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now that's a surprise!
Quote from: Andyb on July 12, 2018, 08:42:27 AM
All over sky sports now saying double deal for £30million
a statement of intent,if it goes through .coyw
Quote from: Rambler on July 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Mostly Ligue 2. Only 3 seasons in Ligue 1 with a decreasing number of apperances... I agree, not too impressive for a 28 year old. He could still be a decent player I suppose but I hope he's not our 1st choice LB next season. I'm sure he would be ok as a backup left footed CB or LB though. We desperately need some depth.
Or perhaps just a part of the deal to get Seri's signature.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 12, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Rambler on July 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Mostly Ligue 2. Only 3 seasons in Ligue 1 with a decreasing number of apperances... I agree, not too impressive for a 28 year old. He could still be a decent player I suppose but I hope he's not our 1st choice LB next season. I'm sure he would be ok as a backup left footed CB or LB though. We desperately need some depth.
Or perhaps just a part of the deal to get Seri's signature.
The wiki is not complete for last season. He had 41 starts all in all, but his page hasn't been updated properly. He was injured for half the season the season before.
Edit: I think he is meant to be competition for Ream, and cover for a LB coming in. If he is meant to be our first choice LB I'd be worried.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 12, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Rambler on July 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Mostly Ligue 2. Only 3 seasons in Ligue 1 with a decreasing number of apperances... I agree, not too impressive for a 28 year old. He could still be a decent player I suppose but I hope he's not our 1st choice LB next season. I'm sure he would be ok as a backup left footed CB or LB though. We desperately need some depth.
Or perhaps just a part of the deal to get Seri's signature.
When you say decreasing, he made 41 appearances last season, and the year before that he was hampered by a knee injury so I'm not sure where your stats are coming from. Just for benefit, his league only appearances are as follows with the overall total for additional context:
17/18: 29 (41 total)
16/17: 10 (13 total - also the year of his knee injury)
15/16: 26 (27 total)
BREAKING NEWS
Sky sources understand Fulham and Nice are in advanced talks to finalise a double deal for midfielder Jean Michael Seri and defender Maxime Le Marchand.
One source has told us the combined deal could be worth in excess of £30m.
Both players are on standby to take medicals once the clubs have completed negotiations.
Chelsea had been favourites to sign Seri but with Napoli midfielder Jorginho seemingly on his way to Stamford Bridge, Fulham have taken advantage.
Quote from: corbs83 on July 12, 2018, 09:22:04 AM
BREAKING NEWS
Sky sources understand Fulham and Nice are in advanced talks to finalise a double deal for midfielder Jean Michael Seri and defender Maxime Le Marchand.
One source has told us the combined deal could be worth in excess of £30m.
Both players are on standby to take medicals once the clubs have completed negotiations.
Chelsea had been favourites to sign Seri but with Napoli midfielder Jorginho seemingly on his way to Stamford Bridge, Fulham have taken advantage.
It can't be true, can it? I do believe we will sign the CB but both. It'll change the way times view us and signings like Musachio, Aigustinnson etc become realistic.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 12, 2018, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 12, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Rambler on July 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Mostly Ligue 2. Only 3 seasons in Ligue 1 with a decreasing number of apperances... I agree, not too impressive for a 28 year old. He could still be a decent player I suppose but I hope he's not our 1st choice LB next season. I'm sure he would be ok as a backup left footed CB or LB though. We desperately need some depth.
Or perhaps just a part of the deal to get Seri's signature.
When you say decreasing, he made 41 appearances last season, and the year before that he was hampered by a knee injury so I'm not sure where your stats are coming from. Just for benefit, his league only appearances are as follows with the overall total for additional context:
17/18: 29 (41 total)
16/17: 10 (13 total - also the year of his knee injury)
15/16: 26 (27 total)
Wikipedia so not the most reliable... sorry!
Wiki said (league/total):
2015/16: 26/26
2016/17: 10/13
2017/18: 9/17
But apparantly not up to date for 2017/18. I stand corrected.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 12, 2018, 09:36:14 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 12, 2018, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 12, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Rambler on July 12, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Mostly Ligue 2. Only 3 seasons in Ligue 1 with a decreasing number of apperances... I agree, not too impressive for a 28 year old. He could still be a decent player I suppose but I hope he's not our 1st choice LB next season. I'm sure he would be ok as a backup left footed CB or LB though. We desperately need some depth.
Or perhaps just a part of the deal to get Seri's signature.
When you say decreasing, he made 41 appearances last season, and the year before that he was hampered by a knee injury so I'm not sure where your stats are coming from. Just for benefit, his league only appearances are as follows with the overall total for additional context:
17/18: 29 (41 total)
16/17: 10 (13 total - also the year of his knee injury)
15/16: 26 (27 total)
Wikipedia so not the most reliable... sorry!
Wiki said (league/total):
2015/16: 26/26
2016/17: 10/13
2017/18: 9/17
But apparantly not up to date for 2017/18. I stand corrected.
I recommend Transfermarkt, statistically they're much better for stuff like that as you can see positional breakdown as well which show's he's more of a CB that plays LB if needed to.
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Is le Marchand any good? His wiki stats don't sound too encouraging but that's not the most reliable
Mostly Ligue 2. Only 3 seasons in Ligue 1 with a decreasing number of apperances... I agree, not too impressive for a 28 year old. He could still be a decent player I suppose but I hope he's not our 1st choice LB next season. I'm sure he would be ok as a backup left footed CB or LB though. We desperately need some depth.
Or perhaps just a part of the deal to get Seri's signature.
When you say decreasing, he made 41 appearances last season, and the year before that he was hampered by a knee injury so I'm not sure where your stats are coming from. Just for benefit, his league only appearances are as follows with the overall total for additional context:
17/18: 29 (41 total)
16/17: 10 (13 total - also the year of his knee injury)
15/16: 26 (27 total)
Wikipedia so not the most reliable... sorry!
Wiki said (league/total):
2015/16: 26/26
2016/17: 10/13
2017/18: 9/17
But apparantly not up to date for 2017/18. I stand corrected.
I recommend Transfermarkt, statistically they're much better for stuff like that as you can see positional breakdown as well which show's he's more of a CB that plays LB if needed to.
Whoscored is also very good.
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I'm delighted to announce that @FulhamFC has signed midfielder Jean-Michael Seri from Nice. He's been at the very top of our target list for a long time. This is a big day for Fulham. We're ecstatic that Jean-Michael is joining our squad as we return home to the @premierleague!
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I'm delighted to announce that @FulhamFC has signed midfielder Jean-Michael Seri from Nice. He's been at the very top of our target list for a long time. This is a big day for Fulham. We're ecstatic that Jean-Michael is joining our squad as we return home to the @premierleague!
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I'm delighted to announce that @FulhamFC has signed midfielder Jean-Michael Seri from Nice. He's been at the very top of our target list for a long time. This is a big day for Fulham. We're ecstatic that Jean-Michael is joining our squad as we return home to the @premierleague!
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:Haynes The Maestro: Amazing news! Well played all involved in this transfer!
No FulhamFC tweet or offal though?
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I'm delighted to announce that @FulhamFC has signed midfielder Jean-Michael Seri from Nice. He's been at the very top of our target list for a long time. This is a big day for Fulham. We're ecstatic that Jean-Michael is joining our squad as we return home to the @premierleague!
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:Haynes The Maestro: Amazing news! Well played all involved in this transfer!
No FulhamFC tweet or offal though?
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/july/12/jean-michael-seri-signs
"Subject to obtaining a work permit" I hope brexit doesn't kick in today
F### what a 1st sighning wow.
Le Marchand and Mitrovic please
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"Subject to obtaining a work permit" I hope brexit doesn't kick in today
Apparently it's v easy to get one based on the cost of a deal. Seeing some tweets from Alan Nixon who says Swansea are in a similar position but because you spend a lot of money on a player it weighs heavily in the favour of the club, owing to tax income generated etc etc
Anyone know what day we fly to France next week? Not to say a new signing can't meet us over there, but you'd think we'd want 2 or 3 more in for that trip. Most likely would be Le Marchand (who could be announced today I suppose) and Mitrovic.
Maxime confirmed now.
... and by today I mean in about two minutes.
Anyone want to talk about Cardiff and their signings?
Cardiff ? Never heard of them.
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Anyone want to talk about Cardiff and their signings?
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Anyone want to talk about Cardiff and their signings?
Can't we just enjoy some good news for a change.....
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Anyone want to talk about Cardiff and their signings?
Can't we just enjoy some good news for a change.....
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Anyone want to talk about Cardiff and their signings?
But... Greg Cunningham...
If you have ever played Dominoes, you should know the effects of one, sorry I mean two top draw signings will have through the incoming door which appears to have been well oiled and greased.
This should make other "big name" signings like Musacchio keener to join now as well.
Mitro will be next surely.
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 12, 2018, 11:20:47 AM
Mitro will be next surely.
Wouldn't it be great if we got him tomorrow?
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Mitro will be next surely.
Wonder what the hold up is with him signing.?Maybe Newcastle need someone to replace him.
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Mitro will be next surely.
Wonder what the hold up is with him signing.?Maybe Newcastle need someone to replace him.
Maybe he needs to come back from holiday
Serbia went out two Wednesday's ago, so let's say Mitrovic went on holiday on the Saturday, he'll probably be back in England this coming Monday (two week holiday) so I'd expect we'll see more movement on him then. It's worked out alright though, because it meant we could focus on getting Seri done.
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Mitro will be next surely.
Wonder what the hold up is with him signing.?Maybe Newcastle need someone to replace him.
Newcastle have made it clear he is not the man for them. It would be great if he were now to sign for us without further delay but there must be some problem otherwise he would have signed weeks ago ,surely.
Kenedy just joined Newcastle from Chelsea on season long loan. That will release Mitrovic, maybe as early as today as apparently everything is in place with Mitro and Newcastle just waiting a body in, in a similar position!
Dont worry about Stefjo, we still only have him, Seri, Cairney and McDonald (and Cissé). Thats 4 (5) midfielders for a 3 man midfield. 4 is not enough, we need at least 5 and im not all that sure Cissé is ready yet - so id say we could do with another back up such as Noorwood.
Its going to be a long season and our midfield will be chasing the ball a lot more than we're used to. Players will get knackerd, injured, suspended and what not. We need depth and quality. Stefjo will get his fair share of games, that im certain of.
Im not worried about Mitro either. He'll get here, eventually. Newcastle will want to sell and are probably holding out for an improved bid from Fulham where as we're holding out for them to just sell him to us already(probably). Mitro wants to come here, Fulham wants him and Newcastle are looking to sell.
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Dont worry about Stefjo, we still only have him, Seri, Cairney and McDonald (and Cissé). Thats 4 (5) midfielders for a 3 man midfield. 4 is not enough, we need at least 5 and im not all that sure Cissé is ready yet - so id say we could do with another back up such as Noorwood.
Its going to be a long season and our midfield will be chasing the ball a lot more than we're used to. Players will get knackerd, injured, suspended and what not. We need depth and quality. Stefjo will get his fair share of games, that im certain of.
Im not worried about Mitro either. He'll get here, eventually. Newcastle will want to sell and are probably holding out for an improved bid from Fulham where as we're holding out for them to just sell him to us already(probably). Mitro wants to come here, Fulham wants him and Newcastle are looking to sell.
I think Norwood is SOL on this one. He's not the DM that we need as we'll needs big brute to defend our back 4. Curious who they bring in.
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Can't knock that
Now get at least one of the other live deals over the line by Sunday, and 2/3 more new faces and a new contract for sessegnon next week, then we can all go back to being happy
Don't forget SJ to sign a new long contract.... that would be nice too !! :)
Fulham sign Seri and Le Marchand(https://premierleague-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/premierleague/photo/2018/07/12/df95b70d-beeb-4a84-8017-10cdfe25358c/Fulham-Signings-Seri-Le-Marchand.png)
Ivory Coast midfielder and French defender join the Cottagers from NiceFulham have completed their first signings of the summer transfer window with the acquisitions of Jean Michael Seri and Maxime Le Marchand from Nice.
Seri (pictured above left) is a 26-year-old Ivory Coast midfielder. He has signed a four-year deal with Fulham after moving for an undisclosed fee.
Over the last two Ligue 1 campaigns he came top for passes played and completed, with an accuracy rate of 90.4 per cent last term.
During that period he produced nine goals and 15 assists for Nice in the French top flight and was named in the 2016/17 Team of the Season.
"I'm delighted to be here, it's a new adventure that starts for me and I'm hoping it will all go well," Seri told Fulham's official website.
Le Marchand (pictured above right), 28, is a defender who can play on the left or in the middle and made 81 appearances for Nice over three seasons.
Fulham open their 2018/19 Premier League campaign at home to Crystal Palace on 11 August.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/784569
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Mitro will be next surely.
Wonder what the hold up is with him signing.?Maybe Newcastle need someone to replace him.
Newcastle have made it clear he is not the man for them. It would be great if he were now to sign for us without further delay but there must be some problem otherwise he would have signed weeks ago ,surely.
He's been at the world cup and then on holiday. That is all.
Not sure if it would have affected it, but I believe Newcastle were looking at Plea as, I imagine a potential replacement for losing Mitrovic and I believe that's fallen through so that *might* add some form of delay? Maybe its just teh WC/holiday....who knows. Just speculating.
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Not sure if it would have affected it, but I believe Newcastle were looking at Plea as, I imagine a potential replacement for losing Mitrovic and I believe that's fallen through so that *might* add some form of delay? Maybe its just teh WC/holiday....who knows. Just speculating.
I don't think they're buying a first team starter to replace a player they don't want.. Mitro will leave whether or not Plea goes to Newcastle.
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Not sure if it would have affected it, but I believe Newcastle were looking at Plea as, I imagine a potential replacement for losing Mitrovic and I believe that's fallen through so that *might* add some form of delay? Maybe its just teh WC/holiday....who knows. Just speculating.
I don't think they're buying a first team starter to replace a player they don't want.. Mitro will leave whether or not Plea goes to Newcastle.
Naturally, you'd still include Mitrovic as a ST in your books who you could use when the season starts though. There is logic there even if we know Rafa won't use him. His current squad still includes him. But yeh, maybe I'm clutching at straws a little.
For what it's worth...
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Still want Mitrovic. And a keeper.
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Joe Hart to Birmingham being touted.
Thought they were under an FFP embargo
You can still do loans and free transfers (with a max wage) under an embargo. Remember we signed Madl, Rohan Ince, Labyad and Baird when we had one.
Right you are. Thanks
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Can't we just enjoy some good news for a change.....
Enjoy? I hope all are reveling in it. It's been nothing but good news since January.....for Fulham anyway. 049:gif 051
Tweets that we are in for Besiktas goalkeeper - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabricio_Agosto_Ram%C3%ADrez
Fabri would be another good signing. Not sure about that one though, doubt we'd offer the wages he'd want given what he'd be on at Besiktas.
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez rumour on aspor tv in Turkey also...
https://www.fotomac.com.tr/webtv/videoizle/besiktasin-kalecisi-fabriye-fulhamdan-resmi-teklif
Any Turkish speakers care to translate?
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For what it's worth...
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Still want Mitrovic. And a keeper.
Very happy with todays transfers.
But if we only sign a striker and a keeper I would not be happy.
Odoi at left back? And no cover for Christie?
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Fabricio Agosto Ramirez rumour on aspor tv in Turkey also...
https://www.fotomac.com.tr/webtv/videoizle/besiktasin-kalecisi-fabriye-fulhamdan-resmi-teklif
Any Turkish speakers care to translate?
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It says this below the video "Official bid from Fulham to Beşiktaş's goalkeeper Fabri.
British team Fulham, Besiktas official offer for the goalkeeper Fabri."
€4,5m offer from us for Fabri apparently.
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Fulham, Fabri için Beşiktaş'a 4.5 milyon euroluk resmi teklif yaptı. (A Spor)
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For what it's worth...
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Still want Mitrovic. And a keeper.
Very happy with todays transfers.
But if we only sign a striker and a keeper I would not be happy.
Odoi at left back? And no cover for Christie?
I'd be very surprised if we only signed 4 players this window in total.
The club knows we need a LB, ST and RW, as well as another CB and ideally RB. We can have 2 loans so expect them to be filled, but I reckon we'll spend more.
The club has shown its ambition with an amazing signing today. The bar has been set, more signings are needed to follow this up now
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Looking through Twitter we've seemingly offered 3 million euros plus add-ons for Fabri, and because he's in the last year of his deal with Besiktas they're likely to accept. Take everything with a grain of salt though, because Turkish media are spotty to say the least.
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Fabricio Agosto Ramirez rumour on aspor tv in Turkey also...
https://www.fotomac.com.tr/webtv/videoizle/besiktasin-kalecisi-fabriye-fulhamdan-resmi-teklif
Any Turkish speakers care to translate?
Incidentally he joined Besiktas only a few weeks before our current Goalkeeping Coach left Besiktas.
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For what it's worth...
Alan Nixon
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Still want Mitrovic. And a keeper.
Very happy with todays transfers.
But if we only sign a striker and a keeper I would not be happy.
Odoi at left back? And no cover for Christie?
Max can do LB or LCB, Slav may make Ream LB, also Steve Sess is pretty good, has to be room for him as Christie cover, but Denis cover all across the back. Doesn't mean I don't want another RB, CB RW and CF tho'
Don't know how credible this is, but it says we're favourits to land André Carillo, right winger who impressed for Peru during the World Cup:
There is an added wrinkle to the André Carrillo saga, which might come as good news to Peruvians.
Libero is reporting that Fulham wants to sign Carrillo and is offering higher wages (about $4.5 million annually) than Benfica/Al-Hilal. His future will reportedly be known "in the next few hours."
Most people will be wary of Libero because it's usually hit-or-miss with transfer rumours. But it was the first outlet to report on Independiente's interest in Christian Cueva and the subsequent bid.
Fulham currently have two right wingers on the books, including 23-year-old Aboubakar Kamara, who came through the youth system at Monaco. He was also a key starter at Amiens in Ligue 2 when they won promotion to Ligue 1. Kamara eventually left for Fulham.
However, Carrillo has the advantage of big-game experience and spent a full campaign in the Premier League, albeit as a rotation option at Watford. Maybe Fulham wants a more seasoned player on the right wing.
http://www.futboldlb.com/peruvians-abroad/transfer-rumour-roundup-which-peruvian-players-could-be-on-the-move/
West Ham are signing some great players this window
Fulham in for Andre Carillo from Benfica/Peru per this article - https://libero.pe/futbol-internacional/1276722-andre-carrillo-marcharia-fulham-premier-league-christian-cueva-mls
For his part, André Carrillo already had everything to sign with Al-Hilal of Saudi Arabia but the pressure of the fans, which considered that going to play in that league would not be a good decision for his match, was decisive to put in pause the movement.
It is there that England's Fulham appears offering twice as much as Benfica ($ 4.5 million) and the possibility of continuing in one of the best leagues in the world, the Premier League.
Shots on target against & Saves percentage
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2hwctc4.png)
According to this Besiktas originally wanted €8m for Fabri and Fulham offered €3,5m. After negotiations we're now down to €6,5m demanded versus €4,5m offered. So I guess no agreement has been reached yet.
http://www.gunes.com/spor/fulham-fabri-icin-istanbula-geldi-892109
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Shots on target against & Saves percentage
*snip*
For reference, Bettinelli had 80.8% saves on 78 shots.
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Fulham in for Andre Carillo from Benfica/Peru per this article - https://libero.pe/futbol-internacional/1276722-andre-carrillo-marcharia-fulham-premier-league-christian-cueva-mls
For his part, André Carrillo already had everything to sign with Al-Hilal of Saudi Arabia but the pressure of the fans, which considered that going to play in that league would not be a good decision for his match, was decisive to put in pause the movement.
It is there that England's Fulham appears offering twice as much as Benfica ($ 4.5 million) and the possibility of continuing in one of the best leagues in the world, the Premier League.
I already suggested buying Carillo in a thread I created about Peruvian players at the world cup. I also like their right-back Advincula, but it looks like he will join Besiktas.
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West Ham are signing some great players this window
Yeah, they have. But as always with West Ham its doesnt strike me as there is an idea behind all those signings. They're just signing the biggest names availible to them. They've spent a lot of money on transfers and wages over the past years, and this year is no different, and what do they have to show for it?
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Quote from: Ordar on July 12, 2018, 02:17:43 PM
West Ham are signing some great players this window
Yeah, they have. But as always with West Ham its doesnt strike me as there is an idea behind all those signings. They're just signing the biggest names availible to them. They've spent a lot of money on transfers and wages over the past years, and this year is no different, and what do they have to show for it?
I'm curious though, will they be hit hard by FFP regulations?
hopefully now it looks like the Chelski vacancy is filled Joka will put pen to paper on an extension.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on July 12, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
hopefully now it looks like the Chelski vacancy is filled Joka will put pen to paper on an extension.
I still get the feeling he's hanging on to be certain of our transfer commitment, especially Mitro & a LB.
Seri & MLM make this a positive day, so hopefully Slav's encouraged by this.
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hopefully now it looks like the Chelski vacancy is filled Joka will put pen to paper on an extension.
I still get the feeling he's hanging on to be certain of our transfer commitment, especially Mitro & a LB.
Seri & MLM make this a positive day, so hopefully Slav's encouraged by this.
If Seri isn't enough to convinced him that the chairmen and co mean business, I don't know what will!
We are bidding for Zinchenko according to the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/12/fulham-enter-bidding-war-wolves-manchester-citys-16-million/
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We are bidding for Zinchenko according to the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/12/fulham-enter-bidding-war-wolves-manchester-citys-16-million/
These guys read FOF I suggested literally a few threads back that we should consider Zinchenko alongside Cavaleiro as an either/or...
"Though Fulham have also signed Nice defender Maxime Le Marchand, the club remain interested in Zinchenko." - dont get this sentence though...anyone?
Sorry if this one's been mentioned already. 21yr old Ukranian attacking midfielder, or wing back. He's left-footed btw
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2018/07/12/fulham-join-wolves-in-bidding-war-for-16m-rated-manchester-city-youngster/
NEWS Fulham join Wolves in bidding war for £16m-rated Manchester City youngster
Having pulled off a major coup in signing Jean-Michaël Seri, a player who had been on Manchester City's radar, Fulham are ready to rival Wolves in the race to sign City's Oleksandr Zinchenko, John Percy of the Telegraph reports.
Wolves are said to have had a bid of around £16million accepted by the Blues for Ukraine international Zinchenko, while Newcastle have also shown interest, and now Fulham are considering a rival bid.
After the £25million club-record signing of Seri, adding Zinchenko would be a major statement of intent by Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic.
It is reported by the Telegraph that Fulham would offer more than the £16million proposed by Wolves, creating a bidding war for the versatile Zinchenko that City would undoubtedly welcome.
The player is still not a certainty to exit the Etihad Stadium this summer and his future could depend on what plans Pep Guardiola has for him.
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
I doubt Zinchenko will happen, however having him and Sess down that side would be very exciting. They could swap over constantly during games like Bale used to do at Spurs when playing LW/LB
Plus he's young, so the potential resell value on him (if we needed it) would be potentially huge
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Quote from: Ordar on July 12, 2018, 02:17:43 PM
West Ham are signing some great players this window
Yeah, they have. But as always with West Ham its doesnt strike me as there is an idea behind all those signings. They're just signing the biggest names availible to them.
Maybe this
is their idea. I don't suppose it's the worst strategy ever.
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Quote from: Deuce on July 12, 2018, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 12, 2018, 02:17:43 PM
West Ham are signing some great players this window
Yeah, they have. But as always with West Ham its doesnt strike me as there is an idea behind all those signings. They're just signing the biggest names availible to them.
Maybe this is their idea. I don't suppose it's the worst strategy ever.
Half our Championship team was with this strategy as I boringly remind you all almost daily!
Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
I'm not to sure but I know at Man City he was being played out of position a lot of the time to suit the squad and due to injury.
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Sounds like complete bs like everything else I read on this thread.
Oh ye of little faith.
Nice to see transfer window now wide open for Fulham. People were almost crying here few days ago.
And Jokan is fully involved too! 076.gif
COYW :clap_hands:
Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
He played 8 times for City in the league. All at LB.
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Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
He played 8 times for City in the league. All at LB.
Which speaking to a mate of mine who is a city fan said is not his natural position, a little Like spurs fans think they have LB sorted with sess
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Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
He played 8 times for City in the league. All at LB.
Yeah, because of injuries. And that's in the best team in the country that controls the ball most of the time and don't have to defend much. Before this season he's played mostly on the wing or as an attacking midfielder.
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Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
He played 8 times for City in the league. All at LB.
Which speaking to a mate of mine who is a city fan said is not his natural position, a little Like spurs fans think they have LB sorted with sess
yep city also played delph at lb alot last season too. They just didn't have a good lb so played anyone there
Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
Wonder if this is work to cover for the eventual loss of Sess. If he were to perform well and score fairly regularly at this level, I think we'd be hard pressed to fend off the kind of offers that will be coming in for him come January and, possibly, the summer.
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Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
Wonder if this is work to cover for the eventual loss of Sess. If he were to perform well and score fairly regularly at this level, I think we'd be hard pressed to fend off the kind of offers that will be coming in for him come January and, possibly, the summer.
Lucky for us he still has another 3 1/2 years left on his contract so won't be going anywhere cheap.
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Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
Wonder if this is work to cover for the eventual loss of Sess. If he were to perform well and score fairly regularly at this level, I think we'd be hard pressed to fend off the kind of offers that will be coming in for him come January and, possibly, the summer.
Lucky for us he still has another 3 1/2 years left on his contract so won't be going anywhere cheap.
At his age, I think his potential and that contract would fend off all but the biggest spenders which would be good for both Fulham and Sess. If he even looks like he's making good on his potential at this level, he'll break our record transfer fee by miles, I'd imagine. Having a similar talent that's slightly older waiting in the wings (pardon the pun) would behoove us. We'd get raked over the coals shopping for a talent after everyone knew we'd just sold Sess.
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Quote from: twang on July 12, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Zinchenko is an exciting player but I can't really see where he'd fit in. He'd only be a backup at central midfield or left wing and surely hasn't proven himself enough at left back to be brought in as our first choice?
Wonder if this is work to cover for the eventual loss of Sess. If he were to perform well and score fairly regularly at this level, I think we'd be hard pressed to fend off the kind of offers that will be coming in for him come January and, possibly, the summer.
Lucky for us he still has another 3 1/2 years left on his contract so won't be going anywhere cheap.
At his age, I think his potential and that contract would fend off all but the biggest spenders which would be good for both Fulham and Sess. If he even looks like he's making good on his potential at this level, he'll break our record transfer fee by miles, I'd imagine. Having a similar talent that's slightly older waiting in the wings (pardon the pun) would behoove us. We'd get raked over the coals shopping for a talent after everyone knew we'd just sold Sess.
Like Liverpool did when paying £36m for Andy Carroll in January 2011...... 064.gif 064.gif 064.gif
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West Ham are signing some great players this window
Yeah, they have. But as always with West Ham its doesnt strike me as there is an idea behind all those signings. They're just signing the biggest names availible to them. They've spent a lot of money on transfers and wages over the past years, and this year is no different, and what do they have to show for it?
I'm curious though, will they be hit hard by FFP regulations?
I thought the media darlings were exempt from any wrong doings🤔
Anyone else think the zinchenko story is more about saying to wolves, "sell us calveilero and we'll pull out of zinchenko deal"?
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Anyone else think the zinchenko story is more about saying to wolves, "sell us calveilero and we'll pull out of zinchenko deal"?
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If so, fair play.. it's a strong strategy even if obvious.
Villa desperate to off load Ross.
Blackburn and QPR looking for loan deal.
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West Ham are signing some great players this window
Yeah, they have. But as always with West Ham its doesnt strike me as there is an idea behind all those signings. They're just signing the biggest names availible to them.
Maybe this is their idea. I don't suppose it's the worst strategy ever.
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With Carroll and Reid out for 3 months they are going to have to sign some more!!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2018, 10:38:44 PM
Villa desperate to off load Ross.
Blackburn and QPR looking for loan deal.
You know what... this is going to sound stupid to many but I would have a fully fit Ross in my squad for extra depth in striker options. Great at set pieces. If he has payed off the pies and is ready to play.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2018, 10:38:44 PM
Villa desperate to off load Ross.
Blackburn and QPR looking for loan deal.
You know what... this is going to sound stupid to many but I would have a fully fit Ross in my squad for extra depth in striker options. Great at set pieces. If he has payed off the pies and is ready to play.
I hate to say it, but you do....he is a total team killer and this group have a wonderful team ethic
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Villa desperate to off load Ross.
Blackburn and QPR looking for loan deal.
You know what... this is going to sound stupid to many but I would have a fully fit Ross in my squad for extra depth in striker options. Great at set pieces. If he has payed off the pies and is ready to play.
I hate to say it, but you do....he is a total team killer and this group have a wonderful team ethic
Heard a few rumours to that effect on here. But they're just that: rumours, from uninformed sources. I've never heard it from any of our players. In fact Jokanovic loved him, wanted him to stay and be our captain. Cairney only became captain because McCormack didn't want to stay. So to me it seems likely that those rumours about him being a "team killer" are a load of rubbish to be honest
I would suggest that you have been VERY misinformed
The general consensus from the Turkish Sports sites social media is that Fabri wants to come to Fulham and play in the premier league and that it is just going to be a case of the two sides agreeing a fee. Apparently we have offered Euro 4.5m and they are looking for Euro 6.5m. Besiktas fans love him and dont want him to go but seem resigned to losing him.
One site was reporting there could be a potential work permit issue due to lack of international caps - as he is Spanish this shouldn't be a problem, should it?
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The general consensus from the Turkish Sports sites social media is that Fabri wants to come to Fulham and play in the premier league and that it is just going to be a case of the two sides agreeing a fee. Apparently we have offered Euro 4.5m and they are looking for Euro 6.5m. Besiktas fans love him and dont want him to go but seem resigned to losing him.
One site was reporting there could be a potential work permit issue due to lack of international caps - as he is Spanish this shouldn't be a problem, should it?
Unless Brexit happens before season starts.
Sheyi Ojo to Stoke.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 12, 2018, 10:38:44 PM
Villa desperate to off load Ross.
Blackburn and QPR looking for loan deal.
You know what... this is going to sound stupid to many but I would have a fully fit Ross in my squad for extra depth in striker options. Great at set pieces. If he has payed off the pies and is ready to play.
I hate to say it, but you do....he is a total team killer and this group have a wonderful team ethic
Heard a few rumours to that effect on here. But they're just that: rumours, from uninformed sources. I've never heard it from any of our players. In fact Jokanovic loved him, wanted him to stay and be our captain. Cairney only became captain because McCormack didn't want to stay. So to me it seems likely that those rumours about him being a "team killer" are a load of rubbish to be honest
I would suggest that you have been VERY misinformed
Agree, stay well clear
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 13, 2018, 06:06:50 AM
Sheyi Ojo to Stoke.
That's fine by me he's not a premier league player yet and we can't wait for his potential to fulfil its self.
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The general consensus from the Turkish Sports sites social media is that Fabri wants to come to Fulham and play in the premier league and that it is just going to be a case of the two sides agreeing a fee. Apparently we have offered Euro 4.5m and they are looking for Euro 6.5m. Besiktas fans love him and dont want him to go but seem resigned to losing him.
One site was reporting there could be a potential work permit issue due to lack of international caps - as he is Spanish this shouldn't be a problem, should it?
Not at the moment!!
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Villa desperate to off load Ross.
Blackburn and QPR looking for loan deal.
You know what... this is going to sound stupid to many but I would have a fully fit Ross in my squad for extra depth in striker options. Great at set pieces. If he has payed off the pies and is ready to play.
I hate to say it, but you do....he is a total team killer and this group have a wonderful team ethic
Heard a few rumours to that effect on here. But they're just that: rumours, from uninformed sources. I've never heard it from any of our players. In fact Jokanovic loved him, wanted him to stay and be our captain. Cairney only became captain because McCormack didn't want to stay. So to me it seems likely that those rumours about him being a "team killer" are a load of rubbish to be honest
I would suggest that you have been VERY misinformed
Agree, stay well clear
I also recall you saying the same about Parker
and I stand by that as well. Not overjoyed at him back, can only hope that now on coaching side the issues don't reappear.
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
Chelsea sack Conte - Official.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
Yeah fair enough. I live in Melbourne and saw what he did during his time at Melbourne City. I'm in no way putting the two leagues one the same level. Just thought he looked fitter and more motivated to play football than he had in a long time. He's talented and would come cheap.
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Chelsea sack Conte - Official.
...and appoint Seri! Sh1t, that didn't last lo...sorry I may have misread that.
Professional contracts given to Luca Ashby-Hammond, Ben Davis, Sonny Hilton, Jaydn Mundle-Smith and Elias Frei according to the offal.
Quote from: Tabby on July 13, 2018, 12:26:32 PM
Professional contracts given to Luca Ashby-Hammond, Ben Davis, Sonny Hilton, Jaydn Mundle-Smith and Elias Frei according to the offal.
is frei any relations to our former player
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Professional contracts given to Luca Ashby-Hammond, Ben Davis, Sonny Hilton, Jaydn Mundle-Smith and Elias Frei according to the offal.
is frei any relations to our former player
Yep his younger brother.
Let's all give the Chairman credit where it's due.
The haters have been notably silent of late...long may it continue!
Onward and upward!!!!
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Professional contracts given to Luca Ashby-Hammond, Ben Davis, Sonny Hilton, Jaydn Mundle-Smith and Elias Frei according to the offal.
is frei any relations to our former player
Yep his younger brother.
cheers, I was a big fan of his brother, and thought he was criminally under used. Have you seen him play at all, any similarities in playing style
He plays the same role wide as is brother and is quick.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I have no idea if the rumours about him are true but apparently he was offered to us for loan and the players persuaded Joka not to take him, also he did advise Dembele to leave for a bigger club rather than sign a new contract with us.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 13, 2018, 02:07:22 PM
He plays the same role wide as is brother and is quick.
thanks, I'll keep an eye out for him this year
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He plays the same role wide as is brother and is quick.
thanks, I'll keep an eye out for him this year
Can he go outside the opposition rather than cut back inside all the time like his brother
Crystal Palace boss Roy Hodgson says Bakary Sako has turned down the offer of a new contract at Selhurst Park. #CPFC
I'd take a punt on him if it was viable
Plea has gone to Borussia Mönchengladbach.
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Plea has gone to Borussia Mönchengladbach.
nice edit. :54:
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Plea has gone to Borussia Mönchengladbach.
nice edit. :54:
Yeah, read Borussia and assumed Dortmund. Had to do a double take.
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He plays the same role wide as is brother and is quick.
thanks, I'll keep an eye out for him this year
Can he go outside the opposition rather than cut back inside all the time like his brother
+1, was going to say exactly this about his brother - skillful player but cut inside absolutely every time without fail, so became easy to predict / play against (a bit like Pat Roberts when he was with us really).
Always hoped he would progress but without seeing Frei play much since leaving us, his apparent career plateau in terms of clubs represented / never sticking anywhere too long indicates he hasn't yet developed another dimension to his game.
Shame really as he was clearly talented.
As for Sako, i'd take a punt on him for a free transfer - 6 goals in 19 games last season before his injury end of Jan finished his season.
BRIGHTON CLOSE IN ON BISSOUMA
A £17.5m deal for Lille's Yves Bissouma to Brighton is expected to be announced very shortly, according to French publication L'Equipe.
The 21-year-old midfielder has reportedly agreed personal terms with the south coast side, after Lyon opted to not to pursue an initial enquiry.
Bissouma has previously been linked with Tottenham and Everton.
All this talk of Kerim Frei on here today. Would anyone take him back?
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All this talk of Kerim Frei on here today. Would anyone take him back?
No, never progressed
Would struggle to make it into reserves
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All this talk of Kerim Frei on here today. Would anyone take him back?
Why would we? FFC have moved on.
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Plea has gone to Borussia Mönchengladbach.
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Looks like I picked the wrong season to start supporting Nice.
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Plea has gone to Borussia Mönchengladbach.
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Looks like I picked the wrong season to start supporting Nice.
That takes the biscuit.
I rather the 6m then McCormack back
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I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I have no idea if the rumours about him are true but apparently he was offered to us for loan and the players persuaded Joka not to take him, also he did advise Dembele to leave for a bigger club rather than sign a new contract with us.
Utter bs, I could easily start the same rumour about sessegnon or mitrovic
Look I've an open mind about mccormack (and Parker) but it has to be backed up. If the manager and players are saying publicly that they love him then I'm not going to buy rumours about this or that on here without some evidence. Why would anyone?
The Mcormack rumour was reported by various media outlets at the time, maybe even sky.
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I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I have no idea if the rumours about him are true but apparently he was offered to us for loan and the players persuaded Joka not to take him, also he did advise Dembele to leave for a bigger club rather than sign a new contract with us.
Utter bs, I could easily start the same rumour about sessegnon or mitrovic
Look I've an open mind about mccormack (and Parker) but it has to be backed up. If the manager and players are saying publicly that they love him then I'm not going to buy rumours about this or that on here without some evidence. Why would anyone?
Ok, well if you don't believe he was a bit of a trouble maker, contrary to evidence, wheres the evidence that he was much loved by the players and manager?
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfer-news-fulham-12499893
One source that Mccormack was rejected by players
Who cares.
McCormack senior is a thing of the past who had no loyalty and seemed obsessed with looking for improved contacts to get more money.
McCormack's son however has more sense and is a regular at Fulham games.
McCormack is history, move on. We need to sign Premiership quality strikers not overweight Championship has beens.
I said way back on several threads that Friday July 13th would be crunch time for me. Closing in on season start and now we'll and truly into pre-season prep. I wanted 4-5 signings over the line and we have 2. Serri looks like an ambitious one which is great, but far too many bodies outstanding to bring in at such a late stage. C+ for me so far.
Anyone else find it strange that the first source to confirm the Shaquiri transfer was the Swiss FA? Never heard of an FA doing that before.
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Anyone else find it strange that the first source to confirm the Shaquiri transfer was the Swiss FA? Never heard of an FA doing that before.
Very strange indeed, maybe it's just a rogue online publisher that works for the Swiss FA? No clue how they have any business announcing transfers.
27 more days, before we are under starters orders. I can only assume Mitro is almost over the line, otherwise I would be very very concerned. I will try and think positive and imagine that a couple more players are having the finishing touches to their imminent transfers.
Which still leaves at least 5 more to fill key positions.
I keep telling myself there is nothing to worry about. But so far there is, because you can only go by the facts. 2 new signings.
I cannot and will not believe that we will end up going back down quicker than we came up.
Because why would we pay the kind of money we just paid for Mika, without knowing that he will be backed up by other quality signings, because it wouldn't make sense, so the club must be confident they will complete the signings of the rest of their targets, be it by the skin of their teeth.
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I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I have no idea if the rumours about him are true but apparently he was offered to us for loan and the players persuaded Joka not to take him, also he did advise Dembele to leave for a bigger club rather than sign a new contract with us.
Wouldn't surprise me. Not knocking Ross, but he's too big for us really. Chris Martin to a lesser extent. Players that seem to work for us are the graft type, head down, ego at the door. Would love to have a player of their ability in the squad that proved able. Someone like Rui?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
27 more days, before we are under starters orders. I can only assume Mitro is almost over the line, otherwise I would be very very concerned. I will try and think positive and imagine that a couple more players are having the finishing touches to their imminent transfers.
Which still leaves at least 5 more to fill key positions.
I keep telling myself there is nothing to worry about. But so far there is, because you can only go by the facts. 2 new signings.
I cannot and will not believe that we will end up going back down quicker than we came up.
Because why would we pay the kind of money we just paid for Mika, without knowing that he will be backed up by other quality signings, because it wouldn't make sense, so the club must be confident they will complete the signings of the rest of their targets, be it by the skin of their teeth.
Positivity.
We've actually made some signings which is great. And one of those is a real 'coup' according to all the papers.
Things are on the up.
(Didn't want to mention but will - Marchand is a left sided centre back - exactly the same position as ream. Unless one of them tries it out at RCB I can't see them in the same team together as a CB pairing. Apparently switching your natural side as a centre back is very difficult - hangeland as an example - always played LCB and wasn't as good as a RCB)
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
27 more days, before we are under starters orders. I can only assume Mitro is almost over the line, otherwise I would be very very concerned. I will try and think positive and imagine that a couple more players are having the finishing touches to their imminent transfers.
Which still leaves at least 5 more to fill key positions.
I keep telling myself there is nothing to worry about. But so far there is, because you can only go by the facts. 2 new signings.
I cannot and will not believe that we will end up going back down quicker than we came up.
Because why would we pay the kind of money we just paid for Mika, without knowing that he will be backed up by other quality signings, because it wouldn't make sense, so the club must be confident they will complete the signings of the rest of their targets, be it by the skin of their teeth.
Positivity.
We've actually made some signings which is great. And one of those is a real 'coup' according to all the papers.
Things are on the up.
(Didn't want to mention but will - Marchand is a left sided centre back - exactly the same position as ream. Unless one of them tries it out at RCB I can't see them in the same team together as a CB pairing. Apparently switching your natural side as a centre back is very difficult - hangeland as an example - always played LCB and wasn't as good as a RCB)
Unless you have a back three and one of the two is a more central CB.
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Anyone else find it strange that the first source to confirm the Shaquiri transfer was the Swiss FA? Never heard of an FA doing that before.
Very strange indeed, maybe it's just a rogue online publisher that works for the Swiss FA? No clue how they have any business announcing transfers.
Maybe it's because the Swiss want him to be Swiss when he's really Kosovanian/Yugoslav.
Quote from: Statto on July 13, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
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Quote from: King_Crud on July 13, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I have no idea if the rumours about him are true but apparently he was offered to us for loan and the players persuaded Joka not to take him, also he did advise Dembele to leave for a bigger club rather than sign a new contract with us.
Utter bs, I could easily start the same rumour about sessegnon or mitrovic
Look I've an open mind about mccormack (and Parker) but it has to be backed up. If the manager and players are saying publicly that they love him then I'm not going to buy rumours about this or that on here without some evidence. Why would anyone?
Ok, well if you don't believe he was a bit of a trouble maker, contrary to evidence, wheres the evidence that he was much loved by the players and manager?
I'm not going to dig out contemporaneous quotes from the other players. They're ten a penny. And as I said, jokanovic had him as captain. Ffs what more compelling evidence can you get?! If people have their own inside sources then fair enough, but in terms of publicly available information the evidence in this debate is overwhelmingly one-sided, in mccormack's favour. Same goes for parker.
Ross has been a hassle at pretty much every club he's been to. It's really straight forward with him, he plays well, he signs a new contract which is likely 5 years then next season does the same and when he doesn't get his way, he sulks and gets gate malfunctions. He's also absolutely never done it in the EPL and has struggled everywhere after us bar Aus. I'm really, really surprised hes even been mentioned when Villa, as desperate as they are, don't even want him. Its verges on farcical for me that he's been mentioned, let alone seriously......
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
27 more days, before we are under starters orders. I can only assume Mitro is almost over the line, otherwise I would be very very concerned. I will try and think positive and imagine that a couple more players are having the finishing touches to their imminent transfers.
Which still leaves at least 5 more to fill key positions.
I keep telling myself there is nothing to worry about. But so far there is, because you can only go by the facts. 2 new signings.
I cannot and will not believe that we will end up going back down quicker than we came up.
Because why would we pay the kind of money we just paid for Mika, without knowing that he will be backed up by other quality signings, because it wouldn't make sense, so the club must be confident they will complete the signings of the rest of their targets, be it by the skin of their teeth.
Dean Jones tweeted we were confident of completing deals for Seri, Augustinsson and Mitrovic "soon", and obviously one third of that has already come true. If we could have one of those in before we go to France on I'd assume Monday or Tuesday I'd be pretty content. We've clearly got a lot of irons in fires at the moment which is why we're being linked with so many players, and after Seri you can't question our intent to add quality/willingness to spend in this window.
Quote from: Statto on July 14, 2018, 01:05:33 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 14, 2018, 12:06:15 AM
Ross has been a hassle at pretty much every club he's been to.
Really?
For us he was absolutely fantastic, our best player.
Same for Leeds.
So that's half his career.
Yes he was bang average when he was 23... But so was Seri
Never said he wasn't decent, actually said he was, the hassle comes with his insistence that hes owed a bumper 5 year deal every season rather than like most players, after 2-3+. Theres a reason even Leeds now call him McContract. Its not controversial.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 14, 2018, 12:35:12 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
27 more days, before we are under starters orders. I can only assume Mitro is almost over the line, otherwise I would be very very concerned. I will try and think positive and imagine that a couple more players are having the finishing touches to their imminent transfers.
Which still leaves at least 5 more to fill key positions.
I keep telling myself there is nothing to worry about. But so far there is, because you can only go by the facts. 2 new signings.
I cannot and will not believe that we will end up going back down quicker than we came up.
Because why would we pay the kind of money we just paid for Mika, without knowing that he will be backed up by other quality signings, because it wouldn't make sense, so the club must be confident they will complete the signings of the rest of their targets, be it by the skin of their teeth.
Dean Jones tweeted we were confident of completing deals for Seri, Augustinsson and Mitrovic "soon", and obviously one third of that has already come true. If we could have one of those in before we go to France on I'd assume Monday or Tuesday I'd be pretty content. We've clearly got a lot of irons in fires at the moment which is why we're being linked with so many players, and after Seri you can't question our intent to add quality/willingness to spend in this window.
If any of these or others we want to sign were at the world cup - like Mitro - they are still on HOLIDAY and there is NOTHING the club can do to change that and get them here early
Don't want c is the phrase I will use as we will have more players coming in I believe it's just the way with Fulham with Khan jr.
Still a lot of talk by Turkish media around sighing of the goalie but it seems the fans are not happy as he is their favourite player
Quote from: The Rock on July 13, 2018, 11:51:19 PM
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Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: King_Crud on July 13, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I can't believe people would even consider wanting Ross McContract back. Are you mental? Not only did we do well to recover what losses we would of made if he were to stay and not sign a new contract (he'd not have bothered coming to training, see Villa as a prime example, unless you choose to believe he did indeed have a gate malfunction that stopped him getting to work) but everywhere the guy has gone, he might not be the best/worse for the changing room but he certainly is in stirring up contract issues within a squad if he goes on strike everytime he doesn't get a new contract upgrade each season. Loved him when he was with us, helped drastically to keep us from league one, but the guys track record isn't up for debate, hes awful and likely, has terrible close advisors in his ear telling him to be a mercenary. Can't believe when we're signing people like Seri we're debating at bloody McCormack.....sorry for the rant, nothing personal.
but if he came back he would be a small fish in a big pond, and any tantrums would probably be laughed at by the others. Not saying I want him back as such, but when he wants to play he's good and could be a good squad player
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I have no idea if the rumours about him are true but apparently he was offered to us for loan and the players persuaded Joka not to take him, also he did advise Dembele to leave for a bigger club rather than sign a new contract with us.
Wouldn't surprise me. Not knocking Ross, but he's too big for us really. Chris Martin to a lesser extent. Players that seem to work for us are the graft type, head down, ego at the door. Would love to have a player of their ability in the squad that proved able. Someone like Rui?
A new centre back and Mitrovic will be our Premiership teeth which we need well before the start of the season, leave it to deadline day and we take the field against Palace toothless, forget about preserving the skin on the teeth.
This west London sport article states we are still pursuing Targett but we never were after Augustinsson. https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-aiming-for-deal-with-southampton-for-targett-but-are-not-pursuing-swedish-defender
Glad we are pursuing Matt Targett. Obviously may need to increase the offer, but we really could do with him.
Quote from: deano_632 on July 14, 2018, 11:03:30 AM
This west London sport article states we are still pursuing Targett but we never were after Augustinsson. https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-aiming-for-deal-with-southampton-for-targett-but-are-not-pursuing-swedish-defender
I wouldn't take much notice of that. It's written by Sky's Lyall Thomas, the same guy who reported on Thursday morning we were close to a deal with Nice for Seri and MLM, when it was already done and they'd both taken their Medicals on the Wednesday. If Dean Jones say's we're optimistic on signing Augustinsson then I'm more inclined to believe him as he's better connected to Fulham
"Anyone seen that big Serbian bloke that got all those goals for us last back end?"
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Quote from: cmg on July 14, 2018, 11:48:33 AM
"Anyone seen that big Serbian bloke that got all those goals for us last back end?"
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I think they're more concerned with Cairney pulling his shorts up his arse
Quote from: cmg on July 14, 2018, 11:48:33 AM
"Tom, I've spoken to HR and I'm afraid I've got to send you home from training for breaking the fingertip rule....." those shorts!!
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"Anyone seen that big Serbian bloke that got all those goals for us last back end?"
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I think they're more concerned with Cairney pulling his shorts up his arse
Pulling or Catapulting?
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Dean Jones tweeted we were confident of completing deals for Seri, Augustinsson and Mitrovic "soon", and obviously one third of that has already come true. If we could have one of those in before we go to France on I'd assume Monday or Tuesday I'd be pretty content. We've clearly got a lot of irons in fires at the moment which is why we're being linked with so many players, and after Seri you can't question our intent to add quality/willingness to spend in this window.
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If any of these or others we want to sign were at the world cup - like Mitro - they are still on HOLIDAY and there is NOTHING the club can do to change that and get them here early
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If I calculate it correctly Mitro will have had 2 weeks off by Monday . So I still hope he will be going to France next week with us
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According to footballtransfers.com are Augustinsson not a target for Fulham.
Quote from: G_Gribby on July 14, 2018, 12:51:07 PM
According to footballtransfers.com are Augustinsson not a target for Fulham.
Augustinsson not a TARGET for Fulham! A wrong choice of word considering the LB situation!!
footballtransfers, or fotbolltransfers (I think that is what you meant) cite Lyall Thomas as well.
If the new Chelsea man doesn't want him I'd like to look into batshuayi, if we were looking for a big powerful presence up top. Not sure how unrealistic it is, but potential a loan deal
Here is one even more unrealistic:David Luiz. Rumor says he isn't wanted by new Chelsea manager and he is a right footed cb. But as I said, it is really unrealistic considering the transfer fee and wages.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 14, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
Here is one even more unrealistic:David Luiz. Rumor says he isn't wanted by new Chelsea manager and he is a right footed cb. But as I said, it is really unrealistic considering the transfer fee and wages.
It's only really money that makes it unrealistic, they would play for Tiverton town if the chairman paid the wages they demand.
A lot of players now are not motivated by success but money
Bigger clubs bully smaller clubs, and there isn't a lot you can do about it unless you have an owner like Shahid Khan who can prevent the sale of Sessegnon, so with that in mind I would love to see us bully Bournemouth and put in a bid for Nathan Ake, a real quality ball playing defender that would suit our style perfectly.
If this new lad comes in from Lazio for West Ham they will have spent over £100m this window already and they don't look like slowing down
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 14, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
Here is one even more unrealistic:David Luiz. Rumor says he isn't wanted by new Chelsea manager and he is a right footed cb. But as I said, it is really unrealistic considering the transfer fee and wages.
It's only really money that makes it unrealistic, they would play for Tiverton town if the chairman paid the wages they demand.
A lot of players now are not motivated by success but money
I'd like that - my local side!
Another re-hash of previous reports that say we've offered Peruvian winger Carrillo double his salary... it states that we are in pole position to land him as Everton links have gone quiet. They also stay that Saudi side Al Hilal we're asking to loan him and got quoted 4million euros asa loan fee.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-prefer-transfer-player-fulham-permanent-basis-loan-second-option/
Noticed today Mitrovic liked an Instagram of the new Fulham strip alongside a "we all know who we want to see in this" caption posted by a Mitro fan page.
Quote from: Milo on July 14, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
Noticed today Mitrovic liked an Instagram of the new Fulham strip alongside a "we all know who we want to see in this" caption posted by a Mitro fan page.
To be fair, I know you're just saying something you've noticed, but that's Journalism 101-Transfer window , sponsored by The Sun
I work with a Watford fan I was asking him about Carrillo today after seeing the links about him being a possible target. He said to me he can be quite inconsistent but he said when he is on form he is very skillful & direct & a serious handful. Thinks he would be a solid signing for Fulham
Quote from: MrFFC on July 14, 2018, 10:39:52 PM
I work with a Watford fan I was asking him about Carrillo today after seeing the links about him being a possible target. He said to me he can be quite inconsistent but he said when he is on form he is very skillful & direct & a serious handful. Thinks he would be a solid signing for Fulham
Loan yes, signing no.
West Ham continues to invest.. £35m midfielder from Lazio.
Fredericks decision making more sense it has to be said.
Quote from: Milo on July 15, 2018, 10:59:22 AM
West Ham continues to invest.. £35m midfielder from Lazio.
Fredericks decision making more sense it has to be said.
Have to agree. West Ham have a good chance of a top 8 finish for me
Quote from: Milo on July 15, 2018, 10:59:22 AM
West Ham continues to invest.. £35m midfielder from Lazio.
Fredericks decision making more sense it has to be said.
Have to agree. West Ham have a good chance of a top 8 finish for me
I hope West Ham fall flat on their face. Must be easy to splash the cash with a free stadium.
Quote from: MrFFC on July 15, 2018, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 15, 2018, 10:59:22 AM
West Ham continues to invest.. £35m midfielder from Lazio.
Fredericks decision making more sense it has to be said.
Have to agree. West Ham have a good chance of a top 8 finish for me
Well if you actually look at their signings, they're doing what Everton did last season and we all know how well that turned out. The only two players they've brought in with Prem experience are Wilshire and Fabianski - one is injury prone and the other just got relegated. Freddo as we know is defensively suspect, the south american guy could be a gamble, Yarmolenko is hit and miss and Felipe Anderson is a cracking player on his day, but untested at this level so for £35m could either do a Salah or flop massively
West Ham are having a blinding window
If we make a few more signings then West Ham, Fulham and Wolves are the ones to watch this year.
Quote from: Statto on July 15, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 15, 2018, 12:37:45 PM
If we make a few more signings then West Ham, Fulham and Wolves are the ones to watch this year.
The ones to watch... compete for 11th?
Better than competing for 17th.
In quite possibly the most bonkers but wonderful link to any player you'll see for a while, I give you the below:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6783667/fulham-inter-milan-bordeaux-winger-malcom/
If we pull that off then I'll be speechless
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 15, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
In quite possibly the most bonkers but wonderful link to any player you'll see for a while, I give you the below:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6783667/fulham-inter-milan-bordeaux-winger-malcom/
If we pull that off then I'll be speechless
Reports in that article that Seri is on over £100k per week with us.... Wow.
Quote from: Count Flapula on July 15, 2018, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 15, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
In quite possibly the most bonkers but wonderful link to any player you'll see for a while, I give you the below:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6783667/fulham-inter-milan-bordeaux-winger-malcom/
If we pull that off then I'll be speechless
Reports in that article that Seri is on over £100k per week with us.... Wow.
Not sure that part is entirely accurate as I've seen some reports saying he's on closer to £85k a week
That would be a good option for RW.
Absolutely zero chance of getting Malcom
(Although I thought the same about Seri...)
Quote from: Ordar on July 15, 2018, 02:41:07 PM
Absolutely zero chance of getting Malcom
(Although I thought the same about Seri...)
Yeah, that is the thing. Normally I'd just discard it out of hand, but now I'm not so sure.
Quote from: Statto on July 15, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 15, 2018, 12:37:45 PM
If we make a few more signings then West Ham, Fulham and Wolves are the ones to watch this year.
The ones to watch... compete for 11th place?
Anyway as it stands we are absolutely miles off West Ham
Ha ha, exactly! Oh it's grim isn't it.. Prem life..
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 15, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
In quite possibly the most bonkers but wonderful link to any player you'll see for a while, I give you the below:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6783667/fulham-inter-milan-bordeaux-winger-malcom/
If we pull that off then I'll be speechless
This would be obscene if we pulled this off. Real show of intent.
With so many teams expanding financially I think the competition may open out a little bit and become a lot harder for one team to monopolise. Maybe in the not too far future it will be an actively competitive league between a fair few teams.
Malcom 064.gif not a chance
Any word on the Mitro situation?
Seri is nowhere near that wages around 45k-55k I should think.
He was on 12k at Nice.
I would be absolutely flabbergasted and over the moon if we signed Malcolm! Not holding my breath though.
Quote from: Statto on July 15, 2018, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 15, 2018, 03:32:17 PM
Seri is nowhere near that wages around 45k-55k I should think.
He was on 12k at Nice.
I would be astounded if he's on 100k pw.
But I'd be equally astounded if he's only 45k.
Somewhere between the two I should imagine.
Average salary at a bottom half premiership team will be about £50k pw and he must be significantly above the average standard of bottom half players.
Agreed, 85k a week seems about right.
Our previous highest earner I believe was Zamora who was given a 50k a week contract, so 85-100k a week years later for a record signing doesn't seem too unreasonable
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Just read somewhere that Jose Fonte became a free agent now. He is a right sided cb and maybe he would be a good signing.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on July 15, 2018, 03:25:25 PM
Malcom 064.gif not a chance
Malcolm and France's Fernandez please.
The money is just bonkers,but I guess the deals are done are this crazy!
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Quote from: Statto on July 15, 2018, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 15, 2018, 03:32:17 PM
Seri is nowhere near that wages around 45k-55k I should think.
He was on 12k at Nice.
I would be astounded if he's on 100k pw.
But I'd be equally astounded if he's only 45k.
Somewhere between the two I should imagine.
Average salary at a bottom half premiership team will be about £50k pw and he must be significantly above the average standard of bottom half players.
Agreed, 85k a week seems about right.
Our previous highest earner I believe was Zamora who was given a 50k a week contract, so 85-100k a week years later for a record signing doesn't seem too unreasonable
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so you think berba took the world's biggest pay cut to play for us?
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on July 15, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
I hope West Ham fall flat on their face. Must be easy to splash the cash with a free stadium.
Here Here.
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Quote from: Sgt Fulham on July 15, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
I hope West Ham fall flat on their face. Must be easy to splash the cash with a free stadium.
Here Here.
still not any guarantee ,with a club always 5minutes from a crisis.
lol my comment removed. wasn't anything badly written
Malcom would be bonkers.
Even at £40 mil, if he does the business and his highlights look incredible then in 2 years time he could be worth double. Good business from the club.
Big IF though.
According to Turkish media we've offered £3m for Fabricio, but Besiktas want about £7m.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SafakSina1903/status/1018613482768433152
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 15, 2018, 11:45:50 PM
According to Turkish media we've offered £3m for Fabricio, but Besiktas want about £7m.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SafakSina1903/status/1018613482768433152
They can go and whistle.
Mitrovic's return date is the 25th apparently, so I'm not going to hold my breath over it being done this week.
If you are going to pay Besiktas up to £7m for their goalie, how about looking at Jasper Cillesen at Barcelona for around £10m as he wants to play in the Premier League!
Wet Spam may be acquiring players but are they creating a team? The players we have signed & are pursuing fit into our style that SJ wants to play.
Just looked at bookies odds on Loftus-cheek we are slight outsiders now with palace, Everton and Newcastle ahead of us, I would take him in a heart beat.
Only down the road, wouldn't need to uproot himself and his family and an English international, strong, composed and still young
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 16, 2018, 04:11:36 AM
Mitrovic's return date is the 25th apparently, so I'm not going to hold my breath over it being done this week.
But he hasn't gone pot holing and besides all the work is done by the agent. I am sure he is reachable if Liverpool or Man Utd or Barcelona came calling.
Don't know if it's worth anything but two fulham fans are separately claiming on twitter they asked slavisa if mitrovic was coming back at the game against reading and Slav said yes.. quoting him directly.
I can only imagine at this stage the Mitro Transfer is a done deal hopefully, give or take the odd loose end.
It's other positions that currently need strengthening ASAP I am more concerned about.
When they announce Mitro they are going to want photos in the new FFC kit, video and interview - not a photo of him on a beach in his speedos - so it maybe a done deal but we have to wait for the official announcement
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2018, 10:43:35 AM
I can only imagine at this stage the Mitro Transfer is a done deal hopefully, give or take the odd loose end.
It's other positions that currently need strengthening ASAP I am more concerned about.
I still think we need another striker on top of Mitro
Someone pointed out that against reading there were still quite a few numbers from a first team perspective not in use.
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I can only imagine at this stage the Mitro Transfer is a done deal hopefully, give or take the odd loose end.
It's other positions that currently need strengthening ASAP I am more concerned about.
I still think we need another striker on top of Mitro
Someone pointed out that against reading there were still quite a few numbers from a first team perspective not in use.
I agree 👍⚽️
Would love to see Max Kruse from Werder Bremen in a Fulham Shirt...for me he would be the perfect striker we need this year !!!
Fenerbahce's Comolli looking to snatch Mitrovic from Newcastle, alternative to Fulham move
Not sure if they're just rehashing what was reported in the Sun but seems a few French sources saying Fulham definitely in for Malcolm.
Apparently Inter ,which would be the players preferred destination, want a season long loan due to FFP & have offered 26.5 m at the end of it which Bordeaux would consider.
Fulham could pay that now it was reported
Fenerbahce's Comolli looking to snatch Mitrovic from Newcastle, alternative to Fulham move
By Nihat Emre Kocaaslan - 16th July 2018
Turkish newspaper Takvim report Fenerbahce sporting director Damien Comolli is looking to sign Newcastle United forward Aleksandar Mitrovic. Takvim say Comolli has identified Mitrovic as a target and the Frenchman has held talks with Newcastle United over a potential move. Mitrovic impressed when loaned out for the second half of the season to Fulham and there have been reports Slavisa Jokanovic's side want him to have him back at Craven Cottage for next season. Last season the Serbian scored 12 goals in 17 games for Fulham, helping them to Premier League promotion via the play offs.
According to Takvim, Fenerbahce are looking to loan the Newcastle United player, and talks for the Serbian international are expected to continue over the course of this week. Mitrovic has previously been linked with a move to Besiktas before his loan move to Fulham and the player is under contract with Newcastle United until 2020.
I doubt that this has any legs because Newcastle have been looking to sell him - to raise fund for transfers - since last summer
The loan to us during the last window was just to get him out of the way until a good offer came along.
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Fenerbahce's Comolli looking to snatch Mitrovic from Newcastle, alternative to Fulham move
By Nihat Emre Kocaaslan - 16th July 2018
Turkish newspaper Takvim report Fenerbahce sporting director Damien Comolli is looking to sign Newcastle United forward Aleksandar Mitrovic. Takvim say Comolli has identified Mitrovic as a target and the Frenchman has held talks with Newcastle United over a potential move. Mitrovic impressed when loaned out for the second half of the season to Fulham and there have been reports Slavisa Jokanovic's side want him to have him back at Craven Cottage for next season. Last season the Serbian scored 12 goals in 17 games for Fulham, helping them to Premier League promotion via the play offs.
According to Takvim, Fenerbahce are looking to loan the Newcastle United player, and talks for the Serbian international are expected to continue over the course of this week. Mitrovic has previously been linked with a move to Besiktas before his loan move to Fulham and the player is under contract with Newcastle United until 2020.
I doubt that this has any legs because Newcastle have been looking to sell him - to raise fund for transfers - since last summer
The loan to us during the last window was just to get him out of the way until a good offer came along.
The only reason Newcastle loan him out abroad is to protect themselves from strengthening us. Not saying its true or whatever but IF they did, it would be for that reason.
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Fenerbahce's Comolli looking to snatch Mitrovic from Newcastle, alternative to Fulham move
By Nihat Emre Kocaaslan - 16th July 2018
Turkish newspaper Takvim report Fenerbahce sporting director Damien Comolli is looking to sign Newcastle United forward Aleksandar Mitrovic. Takvim say Comolli has identified Mitrovic as a target and the Frenchman has held talks with Newcastle United over a potential move. Mitrovic impressed when loaned out for the second half of the season to Fulham and there have been reports Slavisa Jokanovic's side want him to have him back at Craven Cottage for next season. Last season the Serbian scored 12 goals in 17 games for Fulham, helping them to Premier League promotion via the play offs.
According to Takvim, Fenerbahce are looking to loan the Newcastle United player, and talks for the Serbian international are expected to continue over the course of this week. Mitrovic has previously been linked with a move to Besiktas before his loan move to Fulham and the player is under contract with Newcastle United until 2020.
I doubt that this has any legs because Newcastle have been looking to sell him - to raise fund for transfers - since last summer
The loan to us during the last window was just to get him out of the way until a good offer came along.
The only reason Newcastle loan him out abroad is to protect themselves from strengthening us. Not saying its true or whatever but IF they did, it would be for that reason.
that's why until he's signed up he has all options open.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2018, 01:42:28 PM
Not sure if they're just rehashing what was reported in the Sun but seems a few French sources saying Fulham definitely in for Malcolm.
Apparently Inter ,which would be the players preferred destination, want a season long loan due to FFP & have offered 26.5 m at the end of it which Bordeaux would consider.
Fulham could pay that now it was reported
I read that the proposed loan fee for Inter is about 8m which means the fee we would be paying is more like 34.5m
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The only reason Newcastle loan him out abroad is to protect themselves from strengthening us. Not saying its true or whatever but IF they did, it would be for that reason.
that's why until he's signed up he has all options open.
If they loan him out again he will have 12 months left on his contract - what will be be worth then?
Newcastle cannot afford to have him on their books on 10 August because they need the money for new players
Unless he is telling porkies to SJ - he's said he's not going anywhere else
Newcastle can negotiate with whoever they want, for loan or sale, but there is no way they can force him to sign for another club
@statto
After the play off final - I seem to remember SK saying that they were prepared to invest in new players and that they were looking to compete and not just make up the numbers (or words to that effect)
The Seri signing seems to indicate that they are not looking to bring in "squad players" and if we're truly linked to players like Malcom his potential investment would appear to be on course to break the FFP rules - which of course he can well afford.
I think the cost of doing that it a rap over the knuckles with a limp stick of rhubarb and a limited transfer ban
It seems to me that if he spends really BIG and acquires enough assets a ban will be meaningless because we will already have the players on our books and any gaps can still be plugged with loans.
Of course time will tell if this is the way things are going to go - but for me this is a sound strategy for someone who has already suffered the cost of our being demoted from the PL.
It's a strategy he can personally afford and the main risk is buying duds who turn out to have a lower resale value in the future.
Have I overlooked something or is breaking the FFP rules a damp squib for someone who opens his wallet and goes for broke
Quote from: Statto on July 16, 2018, 03:13:43 PM
I fully agree with the strategy of spending aggressively to minimise the chances of getting relegated, rather than tightening the purse strings so that relegation, if it happens, isn't so devastating. As you know from our previous debates, IMO the chairman should be spending as much as FFP will let him, but I still don't think it's prudent to breach it.
I have been wondering how much being relegated was going to influence him and of course we're still to see
It might not be prudent to breach FFP rules - by a little - but doing it by a lot - would seem to be an attractive option - unless there are penalties to fit the crime
@SkySportsLyall now reporting that there is no truth in the Fulham-Malcom stories. As you were.
#FFC #COYW
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@SkySportsLyall now reporting that there is no truth in the Fulham-Malcom stories. As you were.
#FFC #COYW
That's disappointing....
Sky saying we paid £18 for seri and £12 for le March. Bit high for le march?
Getting a bit paranoid about the Mitro situation,could see him being knicked from us,think Roy fancies him at Palace as well.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on July 16, 2018, 03:53:13 PM
Sky saying we paid £18 for seri and £12 for le March. Bit high for le march?
Maybe there is a sell-on fee on Seri, so Nice wanted it structured it like that.
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@SkySportsLyall now reporting that there is no truth in the Fulham-Malcom stories. As you were.
#FFC #COYW
That's disappointing....
Hes not always right though, generally find him a bit hit & miss
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2018, 03:53:35 PM
Getting a bit paranoid about the Mitro situation,could see him being knicked from us,think Roy fancies him at Palace as well.
for me the longer the mitro deal goes on without him signing it gets more and more suss!
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@statto
After the play off final - I seem to remember SK saying that they were prepared to invest in new players and that they were looking to compete and not just make up the numbers (or words to that effect)
The Seri signing seems to indicate that they are not looking to bring in "squad players" and if we're truly linked to players like Malcom his potential investment would appear to be on course to break the FFP rules - which of course he can well afford.
I think the cost of doing that it a rap over the knuckles with a limp stick of rhubarb and a limited transfer ban
It seems to me that if he spends really BIG and acquires enough assets a ban will be meaningless because we will already have the players on our books and any gaps can still be plugged with loans.
Of course time will tell if this is the way things are going to go - but for me this is a sound strategy for someone who has already suffered the cost of our being demoted from the PL.
It's a strategy he can personally afford and the main risk is buying duds who turn out to have a lower resale value in the future.
Have I overlooked something or is breaking the FFP rules a damp squib for someone who opens his wallet and goes for broke
As noted up the thread, if the spending limit is £105m then we're still a very long way off that, and I can't see us hitting it.
As for wages, FFP probably permits us to have about 25 players on £50k-£60k pw average. Before Seri, Marchand and the other players' pay rises triggered by promotion, we probably had about 15 players on £20k pw average. So again masses of room left to move.
I fully agree with the strategy of spending aggressively to minimise the chances of getting relegated, rather than tightening the purse strings so that relegation, if it happens, isn't so devastating. As you know from our previous debates, IMO the chairman should be spending as much as FFP will let him, but I still don't think it's prudent to breach it.
Since the topic has been brought up once again, I have a couple of questions I was hoping I could get answered here.
1) Since we've had our knuckles rapped by the EFL once already (season before last) would our punishment be more harsh if we were to break FFP rules once again? Or does our promotion reset things?
2) If we were to break FFP rules, would we be the first PL club to ever do so? I don't recall one being punished previously but, being the Fulham snob that I am, I stopped following the PL the moment Fulham were playing elsewhere....save for Liecester's astonishing run season before last.
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Getting a bit paranoid about the Mitro situation,could see him being knicked from us,think Roy fancies him at Palace as well.
for me the longer the mitro deal goes on without him signing it gets more and more suss!
Some saying because he is on holiday, that wouldn't make any difference imo if he was on the verge of signing.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 16, 2018, 03:53:35 PM
Getting a bit paranoid about the Mitro situation,could see him being knicked from us,think Roy fancies him at Palace as well.
They wear the wrong colors. 049:gif
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Getting a bit paranoid about the Mitro situation,could see him being knicked from us,think Roy fancies him at Palace as well.
for me the longer the mitro deal goes on without him signing it gets more and more suss!
Some saying because he is on holiday, that wouldn't make any difference imo if he was on the verge of signing.
If someone were to tell me that he's been back from holiday for more than a week and there's been no announcement, I'll worry. I think it makes a fair bit of sense that nothing official will happen until he returns. The club would want to take photos with the proper kit and all to sensationalize the success of their transfer window. I'll hold off getting too fixated on it for now.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 16, 2018, 04:11:36 AM
Mitrovic's return date is the 25th apparently, so I'm not going to hold my breath over it being done this week.
That sounds too much like Christmas day, some one having a laugh maybe.
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Mitrovic's return date is the 25th apparently, so I'm not going to hold my breath over it being done this week.
That sounds too much like Christmas day, some one having a laugh maybe.
If wheelerdealer has read that in the same article as me, it says that's how long Newcastle have let him have off because they don't see him as part of the squad next season. Apparently if they don't sign a replacement very soon, he could be called back to training before that date anyway. So if we're actually looking to sign him, there's no reason for him or us to put it off that long. After all, Newcastle could let him sit on his arse until christmas - does that mean we wouldn't sign him because he'd still technically be 'on holiday'?
I think 3 weeks is about standard for players who went to the World Cup (and played), and the 25th would be exactly three weeks from when Serbia went out so I'm assuming that's the reason why. That's not to say Mitrovic will unable to sign for us before then though, and he may want to dive straight into Pre-Season with us rather than hanging around the Newcastle Training Ground for a few days.
Should get him signed or move on,or at least cover crouch would make a difference if not possible for him every game owing to age,then mitro if we sign him up regular starter crouch back up.
Roberto Jimenez, another goalkeeper, is being linked with us:
https://vozperica.com/el-fulham-ingles-estaria-interesado-en-roberto-segun-de-haro/
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Roberto Jimenez, another goalkeeper, is being linked with us:
https://vozperica.com/el-fulham-ingles-estaria-interesado-en-roberto-segun-de-haro/
Would be more likely to happen in terms of availability than Fabri. He's behind Pau Lopez and Diego Lopez at Espanyol and was on loan last season. Did well at Olympiakos before he moved though. Would still rather Fabri over him.
Pity Martinez from River Plate linked. Argentine left winger
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Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
Buttons gone. Just announced on fulham Twitter
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/july/16/button-departure
Jose fonte would be good to have I think a another CH thats played PL football.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 16, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
Jose fonte would be good to have I think a another CH thats played PL football.
I agree, and with the right coaching and team set-up he could do well. Of course he has a connection with the club as well
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2018, 06:49:06 PM
Pity Martinez from River Plate linked. Argentine left winger
What a pity
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Fulham apparently willing to offer €1,5m for Roberto Jimenez and match his current salary at Espanyol. Just based on what's written in the article it sounds like it would be an appealing offer for both club and player.
https://www.lacontradeportiva.com/el-fulham-quiere-fichar-a-roberto-tiene-preparada-una-propuesta-muy-suculenta/
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
He's 34 and will want massive wages, what benefit will that give the club? He's also lost his pace so will get rings run round him in the PL.
Seeing as our offer for Fabricio was £4m below what Besiktas wanted, and now we've just gained £4m from selling Button, I have a feeling that we might be going in with another for Fabri. Alan Nixon reckons our replacement option is Fabri so that's quite an upgrade in the keeping department
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
Like his brother, unfortunately he is nowhere near good enough.
The last thing we need is others deadwood, we have our own.
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
He's 34 and will want massive wages, what benefit will that give the club? He's also lost his pace so will get rings run round him in the PL.
Depending on the wages I wouldn't mind him to be honest. Give us PL experience that we're massively lacking, as well as experience in the relegation battle. He showed at the World Cup he's still got some life left in him. Could play him in the middle of a 3/5 at the back with Le Marchand/Ream and Odoi either side of him in the games where we have to go a bit more defensive and know we can rely on him to be solid.
It won't happen though.
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
He's 34 and will want massive wages, what benefit will that give the club? He's also lost his pace so will get rings run round him in the PL.
Depending on the wages I wouldn't mind him to be honest. Give us PL experience that we're massively lacking, as well as experience in the relegation battle. He showed at the World Cup he's still got some life left in him. Could play him in the middle of a 3/5 at the back with Le Marchand/Ream and Odoi either side of him in the games where we have to go a bit more defensive and know we can rely on him to be solid.
It won't happen though.
7 out of 10 for your effort.😁
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
He's 34 and will want massive wages, what benefit will that give the club? He's also lost his pace so will get rings run round him in the PL.
Depending on the wages I wouldn't mind him to be honest. Give us PL experience that we're massively lacking, as well as experience in the relegation battle. He showed at the World Cup he's still got some life left in him. Could play him in the middle of a 3/5 at the back with Le Marchand/Ream and Odoi either side of him in the games where we have to go a bit more defensive and know we can rely on him to be solid.
It won't happen though.
I don't understand the reasoning behind suggesting taking someone who just happens to be available - and to help his brother out (in what way?). There'd be a large signing-on fee plus wages and he's 34. In my view, we should be targetting the right people for the positions that we need with some future-proofing.
In fact, I'm sure we are and the speculation is completely wide of the mark.
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@statto
After the play off final - I seem to remember SK saying that they were prepared to invest in new players and that they were looking to compete and not just make up the numbers (or words to that effect)
The Seri signing seems to indicate that they are not looking to bring in "squad players" and if we're truly linked to players like Malcom his potential investment would appear to be on course to break the FFP rules - which of course he can well afford.
I think the cost of doing that it a rap over the knuckles with a limp stick of rhubarb and a limited transfer ban
It seems to me that if he spends really BIG and acquires enough assets a ban will be meaningless because we will already have the players on our books and any gaps can still be plugged with loans.
Of course time will tell if this is the way things are going to go - but for me this is a sound strategy for someone who has already suffered the cost of our being demoted from the PL.
It's a strategy he can personally afford and the main risk is buying duds who turn out to have a lower resale value in the future.
Have I overlooked something or is breaking the FFP rules a damp squib for someone who opens his wallet and goes for broke
As noted up the thread, if the spending limit is £105m then we're still a very long way off that, and I can't see us hitting it.
As for wages, FFP probably permits us to have about 25 players on £50k-£60k pw average. Before Seri, Marchand and the other players' pay rises triggered by promotion, we probably had about 15 players on £20k pw average. So again masses of room left to move.
I fully agree with the strategy of spending aggressively to minimise the chances of getting relegated, rather than tightening the purse strings so that relegation, if it happens, isn't so devastating. As you know from our previous debates, IMO the chairman should be spending as much as FFP will let him, but I still don't think it's prudent to breach it.
Hang on though, doesn't it also depend on how the deals are structured? Surely if the payments are staggered over the next two or three years then 30£m would go to 10£m a year which leaves a lot of room to bring in players and still be within each years FFP, whilst leaving room for further investments.
Players like Seri and Malcom would I imagine be considered as assets with potential to rise in value both on and off the pitch. So if we built a squad around buying players of Seri's quality for 18m and he appreciated in value to 40m then we'd still be in a strong position re fair play and continuously bringing in good players.. if they do well.
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FONTE BACK TO PREMIER LEAGUE?
Jose Fonte has seen his contract at Chinese club Dalian Yifang torn up - and he's now keen on a return to the Premier League.
The Portuguese defender, who featured for his country at the World Cup in Russia, played just seven times for the club after his move from the London Stadium in January.
As I already said earlier in this thread I think he would be a good choice, and he plays on the rcb position where we need players desperately.
Isn't one Fonte not working out enough for you.😵
I say again would be a good signing and also the connection with rui might help rui.
He's 34 and will want massive wages, what benefit will that give the club? He's also lost his pace so will get rings run round him in the PL.
Depending on the wages I wouldn't mind him to be honest. Give us PL experience that we're massively lacking, as well as experience in the relegation battle. He showed at the World Cup he's still got some life left in him. Could play him in the middle of a 3/5 at the back with Le Marchand/Ream and Odoi either side of him in the games where we have to go a bit more defensive and know we can rely on him to be solid.
It won't happen though.
I don't understand the reasoning behind suggesting taking someone who just happens to be available - and to help his brother out (in what way?). There'd be a large signing-on fee plus wages and he's 34. In my view, we should be targetting the right people for the positions that we need with some future-proofing.
In fact, I'm sure we are and the speculation is completely wide of the mark.
I don't think we'd actually sign him. All of our signings/rumoured signings are players who have the potential to increase in value depending on how well they play next season (and our whole not signing outfield players over the age of 28 policy). I was just saying how hypothetically it could be an alright signing for us.
Is this old news?
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-1-3m-bid-for-roberto/
Fulham make £1.3m bid for Roberto
Fulham have made a £1.3m for Espanyol goalkeeper Roberto Jimenez, according to reports from Spain.
The 32 year-old goalkeeper spent last season on loan with Malaga, keeping six clean sheets in 34 league appearances for the Anchovies, although the club were relegated having finished rock bottom of La Liga. The experienced goalkeeper is likely to leave La Rosaleda this summer as he is deemed surplus to requirements and Malaga are looking to reduce their wage bill ahead of the new season.
Jimenez, a former Spanish under-21 international more commonly known as Roberto, began his career with Atletico Madrid and returned to his first club in 2009. He was part of the Atletico squad that famously reached the Europa League final the following year, although spent the second year of the season helping Real Zaragoza avoid relegation from the La Liga on loan. The goalkeeper then endured a disappointing spell at Benfica, before making a return to Zaragoza as the number one goalkeeper and ensuring the Aragonese stayed up on the final day of the season.
Greek giants Olympiakos signed Roberto on loan in 2013 and the goalkeeper helped the club when back-to-back domestic titles. On the European stage, Roberto turned in an inspired performance to keep a clean sheet against his former club Benfica in the Champions' League and produced a brilliant display in a 1-0 win over Juventus in the same competition the following year, but Olympiakos failed to get out of the group stages on both occasions.
The Spanish press reports claim that Roberto would be offered the same wage as he currently earns at Espanyol and that he would become Fulham's number one goalkeeper, usurping academy graduate Marcus Bettinelli ahead of the Whites' return to the Premier League next month. Fulham are definitely in the market for a new keeper, with David Button having completed a move to Brighton and Hove Albion earlier this evening. It remains to be seen whether both Espanyol and Roberto will agree to the proposed deal – or whether Fulham will look to secure other targets.
This has been mentioned on here as well
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-interested-in-river-plate-playmaker/
Fulham are one of a number of English clubs interested in River Plate playmaker Gonzalo Martinez, according to reports coming out of Argentina today.
The Premier League new boys join Lazio, Southampton, Tottenham and Everton are all keen on signing the highly-rated 25 year-old attacking midfielder. Various reports from Argentina claim that Martinez's agent is currently on a European tour speaking to potential suitors, with River Plate resigned to losing one of their prized assets should anyone match Martinez's €15m release clause.
Martinez has scored 23 goals and made 23 more in 158 appearances for River Plate and will avoid the usual work permit travails of south American imports to Europe as he holds an Italian passport. The left-footed midfielder, known by the nickname 'Pity' in his homeland, burst onto the national side by helping Huracan win the Copa Argentina in 2015. He soon moved to River Plate and quickly established himself in the feted Millonario side of 2015 that won the Copa Libertadores and were beaten by Barcelona in the Club World Championship final.
Despite enduring a difficult 2016 at El Monumental, Gonzalez won his way back into the hearts of the River Plate by delivering devastating individual performances as his side won two Superclásicos against Boca Juniors and has now rediscovered the consistency of his earlier years. A versatile attacking midfielder, equally comfortable operating as an orthodox left winger or behind the strikers, Gonzalez is renowned for his dribbling ability and taking on defenders.
Slavisa Jokanovic is known to be seeking reinforcements in attacking areas but it remains to be seen whether Fulham would be interested in activating a hefty release clause for a player who is untried in Europe.
Not been linked with him, but I was talking to a Chelsea supporting friend earlier and it got me thinking. Malcom 99% won't happen, and we need to sign a RW. We could do a lot worse than try and sign Andre Schurrle. Dortmund don't really fancy him/he hasn't really performed for them, he's proven in the Prem (unfortunately as we found out in our relegation season), he's still "only" 27 so he's a good age as well with potential re-sale value if we get him back on form as well. Plus he'd be a reasonable fee because of said Dortmund not fancying him/him not performing.
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
Quote from: Ordar on July 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
The story first broke on The Sun, what do you expect? :dft011:
Quote from: Ordar on July 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
We've made a statement of intent with Seri, so my uninformed, and completely made up guess is that we're now putting ourselves forward by expressing an interest to the agents or the media that we're after another top, top level player, but not really with the intention of getting him. Rather we're using it as bait to see what else agents bring to us at a slightly less high-money/top quality level, as in, we've got money and are looking to invest (but not 30m) - who've you got that would fit our style of play for say 15-20m? Or it could be a rouse to encourage another target to get signing.
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 17, 2018, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
The story first broke on The Sun, what do you expect? :dft011:
Fake news!
Quote from: Holders on July 17, 2018, 08:52:32 AM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 17, 2018, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
The story first broke on The Sun, what do you expect? :dft011:
Fake news!
I've never found the Sun to be any less reliable than most other papers on transfer speculation to be honest
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 17, 2018, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
The story first broke on The Sun, what do you expect? :dft011:
Funny that, because the Sun first broke the story that we'd won the race for Seri before everyone dismissed it as fantasy. Two days later, the Italian journo confirmed the deal was over the line........ as for the odds we're still at 4-1 which is not a worsening at all
Thats weird, we're back to 4/1 on oddschecker now, we had dropped out entirely of the running when I refreshed it at 7am this morning....
Chief sports writer at The Sun is Toofif columnist Dave Kidd.
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on July 17, 2018, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
We've totally dropped out of the running, odds wise, for Malcom
We've made a statement of intent with Seri, so my uninformed, and completely made up guess is that we're now putting ourselves forward by expressing an interest to the agents or the media that we're after another top, top level player, but not really with the intention of getting him. Rather we're using it as bait to see what else agents bring to us at a slightly less high-money/top quality level, as in, we've got money and are looking to invest (but not 30m) - who've you got that would fit our style of play for say 15-20m? Or it could be a rouse to encourage another target to get signing.
Not sure there is time left to play those risky games with agents. It is make your mind up time. We should have a wanted list and starting at the top we should be putting in strong meaningful bids otherwise we may be starting against Palace with some of last season's reserves and a couple of late panic buys.
Malcolm won't be joining Fulham that's not realistic after heavy investment in Seri. They want 45m for him would much rather see that spent on Mitrovic , Cavaleiro & Musacchio for example
Quote from: MrFFC on July 17, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
Malcolm won't be joining Fulham that's not realistic after heavy investment in Seri. They want 45m for him would much rather see that spent on Mitrovic , Cavaleiro & Musacchio for example
but we are talking about an owner who spent 50 million on a TV screen for the jags. It is very plausible that he might want to flex his muscles a little. Especially on players who will more than likely go up in value
Been speaking to some Saints STH'ers and I think our pursuit of Targett comes down to the Bertrand situation. Seems like he wants to leave and Southampton are up in the air with whether they'd want Targett as a replacement, or to retain him and loan him out again in the hope he further matures into an international standard LB like what they've been used to. Could be one that goes right on into the window. Also suggestions that like Newcastle and Mitro, selling to us would strengthen us and its not what a struggling EPL team would want to do. More I look into it, the more I think its unlikely to happen sadly...
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 17, 2018, 10:56:43 AM
Been speaking to some Saints STH'ers and I think our pursuit of Targett comes down to the Bertrand situation. Seems like he wants to leave and Southampton are up in the air with whether they'd want Targett as a replacement, or to retain him and loan him out again in the hope he further matures into an international standard LB like what they've been used to. Could be one that goes right on into the window. Also suggestions that like Newcastle and Mitro, selling to us would strengthen us and its not what a struggling EPL team would want to do. More I look into it, the more I think its unlikely to happen sadly...
I may be alone in thinking this but I think and hope that we can do a lot better than Targett now were in The Premier League
Re the mitro situation,think we should get similar type forward in then if and when mitro sighns it's competition for the position up front.
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 17, 2018, 10:56:43 AM
Been speaking to some Saints STH'ers and I think our pursuit of Targett comes down to the Bertrand situation. Seems like he wants to leave and Southampton are up in the air with whether they'd want Targett as a replacement, or to retain him and loan him out again in the hope he further matures into an international standard LB like what they've been used to. Could be one that goes right on into the window. Also suggestions that like Newcastle and Mitro, selling to us would strengthen us and its not what a struggling EPL team would want to do. More I look into it, the more I think its unlikely to happen sadly...
I may be alone in thinking this but I think and hope that we can do a lot better than Targett now were in The Premier League
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Mitro himself is the key. He can't be forced to sign for another club.
If he really want to play for Fulham, we will get him. If on the other hand another club offers him more money, he could go elsewhere but it would be his choice.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 17, 2018, 10:56:43 AM
Been speaking to some Saints STH'ers and I think our pursuit of Targett comes down to the Bertrand situation. Seems like he wants to leave and Southampton are up in the air with whether they'd want Targett as a replacement, or to retain him and loan him out again in the hope he further matures into an international standard LB like what they've been used to. Could be one that goes right on into the window. Also suggestions that like Newcastle and Mitro, selling to us would strengthen us and its not what a struggling EPL team would want to do. More I look into it, the more I think its unlikely to happen sadly...
I may be alone in thinking this but I think and hope that we can do a lot better than Targett now were in The Premier League
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
As I have just said on TIFF, I expect a last minute rush where all our targets will have had all options exhausted and be forced to make decisions. In the meantime, I expect agents are working flat out to get the best possible deals, and if as it looks, we are going high end, then these players will be in high demand and will have choices to make. We will not always get our highest ranked priority, but will not want to lower our ambitions either.
According to Turkish social media we are back in for Fabri at 5 million Euros
Very little transfer gossip for us this week so far. Probably need another couple of competitive signings this week.
Got to keep the gravy train rolling
Unfortunately, Hughes going to Southampton couldn't have happened at a worse time for us, regarding Targett.
Bertrand had made up his mind to leave and he has to look at Targett as the replacement if he goes. Especially as he played well for us last season.
To let Targett go now and potentially lose Bertrand as well, would be a monumentally stupid mistake by Hughes and I don't believe he is that stupid.
Hopefully Le Marchand can do a job at left back or, if he is as cover, we are looking at someone else as well for the LB position.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 17, 2018, 12:52:21 PM
Unfortunately, Hughes going to Southampton couldn't have happened at a worse time for us, regarding Targett.
Bertrand had made up his mind to leave and he has to look at Targett as the replacement if he goes. Especially as he played well for us last season.
To let Targett go now and potentially lose Bertrand as well, would be a monumentally stupid mistake by Hughes and I don't believe he is that stupid.
Hopefully Le Marchand can do a job at left back or, if he is as cover, we are looking at someone else as well for the LB position.
COYW!
yeh, the delay makes perfect sense. feel bad for the lad though as its been suggested that hes not being looked at as a first teamer, more of a squad player and could even go back out on loan but not to EPL.
Quote from: MrFFC on July 17, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
Malcolm won't be joining Fulham that's not realistic after heavy investment in Seri. They want 45m for him would much rather see that spent on Mitrovic , Cavaleiro & Musacchio for example
I think we are all in unchartered territory re this summer and khan's ambitions. He very may well realise this is the perfect time for heavy investment and to show the club is ambitious. Bringing in players like Seri too is a calling card to better players as an indication of what we're trying to build but also a standard.
Berba cam wanting to play with moussa Dembele. . Others came to play with Berba... others will come to play for Seri and other top players we buy. Better players, more wins, more revenue, higher league position, more televised games, more merchandise sold etc etc..
Jose Fonte too old to be of consideration, I'd suggest. As far as the 'keeper Roberto is concerned - no issues with buying him but most certainly without any assurances that he'd be 1st choice. Quite happy as back-up to Bettinelli & good business, in my book, the Button sale. Would still like us to bolster our squad with a few of last season's loanees, in all honesty, but Mitrovic a must!
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
Approximately, yes, just unlikely to be spread out in that way, as you doubtless realise.
Much better to have everyone integrated by the time of the Palace match, but if that's not the case, they will still be so by the time the window would formerly have closed. Another change is that we started last season aiming for the top two, making a rapid start more urgent than it is now.
In my case (which sounds like it may resemble yours) I'm thinking of Mitro plus another high-ticket(ish) forward and CB, as well as half a dozen or so squad fillers, some of whom could be re-signings. Will be shame if they mostly arrive in a rush at the end, but main thing is that they do arrive and are suitable.
We need ten players? You are joking!! we need a few yes but nowhere near ten. What do you think ten players would say to the rest of the players not forgetting the academy. We need the right players and that takes time.
Quote from: Andy S on July 17, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
We need ten players? You are joking!! we need a few yes but nowhere near ten. What do you think ten players would say to the rest of the players not forgetting the academy. We need the right players and that takes time.
If you think about it Andy, ten players is not that wide of the mark, although I would lean towards 8 minimum, otherwise that home Dressing room is going to feel very empty.
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Indeed
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
How have you arrived at 10 players? We don't need to sign basically a whole team's worth of players when we've already got probably 5 or 6 of our main Starting XI for next season and decent depth in some areas already. I'd be happy with 6. A Keeper (Fabri), a RCB (Musacchio), a LB (Augustinsson, Bryan, Targett), a back-up DM (M'Vila), a Right-Winger (Cavaleiro, Malcom etc.) and a Striker (Mitrovic).
Ignoring a desire to upgrade the team we need to replace all our loanees from last year - Mitro, Targett, Norwood, Ojo, Kalas and Piazon.
We've lost a starter and a squad player in Fred and Button. That leaves 8 signings needed minimum without any upgrades. We've made 2 so far.
Ideally we'd make 7 or 8 now and not have to panic for additional depth in January.
On the topic of Malcolm and other £30-40mil players, it is a lot, but the market has basically trebelled in the last 3 years. Mane went to Soton for £12m, then to Liverpool for £34mil and would be £60-70 now. If you have the financial capacity to buy a 'sure thing' you'd be stupid not to. Now Malcolm might not be that player, but there will be players in that bracket.
Also, Mitro for £20mil is a bargain in this market. Slimani was £28mil to Leicester at 28!
Please remember, we are in the Premier League now, and it's moved on since we were last there. We are in with the big boys.
I do not wish to see Fulham as cannon fodder each week, and proceed to undo all the good that Slavisa achieved through hard work last season.
We have to think big, just to survive, and then build on what we have.
To accumulate, we have to speculate.
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Indeed
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
10 players !! 10 quality premiership players !! Statto .. you are having a giraffe.
things might start to push through now.....
BREAKING NEWS
Newcastle have spoken to West Brom over the potential signing of Solomon Rondon. We understand the striker has a £16m release clause in his WBA contract.
However Newcastle are unlikely to meet that clause until they sell Aleksandar Mitrovic.
Fulham want to buy the Serb on a permanent basis following an impressive loan spell last season, but would need to pay in the region of £18m.
Another 6 players 2 of whom could be loans plus 3 or 4 from the academy makes a sensible sized squad. As said above, what most important is those bought in are going to help the team. We don't need players like Mollo, Soares, Cisse or Graham that were deemed unsuitable or not good enough.
£18M in this market is very good business ... surely we're doing it!
Would add that, with Jovanovic at the helm now, we'll only bring in players he wants/rates. So the old flawed 'moneyball' days are well & truly over!
#NUFC boss Rafa Benitez has admitted he will have to "wheel and deal" in remainder of window.
Put offer on the table, take it or leave and walk away, cannot afford to dick around and leave ourselves in a weak position
Quote from: ollienixs on July 17, 2018, 02:25:01 PM
#NUFC boss Rafa Benitez has admitted he will have to "wheel and deal" in remainder of window.
Put offer on the table, take it or leave and walk away, cannot afford to dick around and leave ourselves in a weak position
Sounds familiar!
Quote from: Riversider on July 17, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 17, 2018, 10:56:43 AM
Been speaking to some Saints STH'ers and I think our pursuit of Targett comes down to the Bertrand situation. Seems like he wants to leave and Southampton are up in the air with whether they'd want Targett as a replacement, or to retain him and loan him out again in the hope he further matures into an international standard LB like what they've been used to. Could be one that goes right on into the window. Also suggestions that like Newcastle and Mitro, selling to us would strengthen us and its not what a struggling EPL team would want to do. More I look into it, the more I think its unlikely to happen sadly...
I may be alone in thinking this but I think and hope that we can do a lot better than Targett now were in The Premier League
You are not alone. While I would not be upset if Targett joins, I do think the club should be aiming for higher rated LB's and use Targett as a fall back plan.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 17, 2018, 02:24:46 PM
Would add that, with Jovanovic at the helm now, we'll only bring in players he wants/rates. So the old flawed 'moneyball' days are well & truly over!
Please correct me if I'm wrong but this isn't actually the case, is it? I was under the impression that it was only Kline leaving and the stats based approach continuing like before but with other people in charge? After all, Khan Jr owns the stats company, doesn't he???
We may need 10 players but we won't sign 10 players I personally think we will see another 6/7 in next few weeks with likes of Steven Sessegnon & Matt O'Riley also coming in to the squad
Quote from: FFC NY on July 17, 2018, 12:19:36 PM
According to Turkish social media we are back in for Fabri at 5 million Euros
Makes sense now we have offloaded Button.
+1
6 signings give us quality and depth, only a few small holes which should be left for the academy players such as O'Reilly etc
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Indeed
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
How have you arrived at 10 players? We don't need to sign basically a whole team's worth of players when we've already got probably 5 or 6 of our main Starting XI for next season and decent depth in some areas already. I'd be happy with 6. A Keeper (Fabri), a RCB (Musacchio), a LB (Augustinsson, Bryan, Targett), a back-up DM (M'Vila), a Right-Winger (Cavaleiro, Malcom etc.) and a Striker (Mitrovic).
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Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 17, 2018, 02:45:32 PM
We may need 10 players but we won't sign 10 players I personally think we will see another 6/7 in next few weeks with likes of Steven Sessegnon & Matt O'Riley also coming in to the squad
For me we should rule out Djalo, Cisse, Fonte and Woodrow which leaves 13 first team players. Arguably you could take Kebano out too, given Jokanovic didn't seem to have confidence in him in the Championship, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
IMO you need a squad of about 25 players - something like 23 senior players and 2/3 youths making up the numbers.
Remember in the PL a matchday squad is 18 players. You need to be able to suffer 5 or so injuries at any one time and still be able to name a complete squad.
IMO we need GK, RB, RCB, LB, RW, CF in the first team and for competition, another two midfielders, a winger and a forward.
I wouldnt rule out Fonte either, his amount of game time last season is completely different to the others. You can also consider Rodak as currently the sub GK who wont go out until a GK is signed. So back at 15... still require 6-8 players I think but
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 17, 2018, 02:45:32 PM
We may need 10 players but we won't sign 10 players I personally think we will see another 6/7 in next few weeks with likes of Steven Sessegnon & Matt O'Riley also coming in to the squad
For me we should rule out Djalo, Cisse, Fonte and Woodrow which leaves 13 first team players. Arguably you could take Kebano out too, given Jokanovic didn't seem to have confidence in him in the Championship, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
IMO you need a squad of about 25 players - something like 23 senior players and 2/3 youths making up the numbers.
Remember in the PL a matchday squad is 18 players. You need to be able to suffer 5 or so injuries at any one time and still be able to name a complete squad, surely. Thank goodness AFCON has moved because that's 4 players right there.
IMO we still need GK, RB, RCB, LB, RW, CF in the first team and for competition, another two midfielders, a winger and a forward.
Just for context, we've signed 10-15 players every summer recently and that's been without the massive need to step up which we have to do this year.
So let's dissect this...
"For me we should rule out Djalo, Cisse, Fonte and Woodrow which leaves 13 first team players. Arguably you could take Kebano out too, given Jokanovic didn't seem to have confidence in him in the Championship, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt."
That's fair enough. Only one I can see being in and around the 18 next season is Fonte depending on what options Jokanovic wants on the bench. Good start.
"IMO you need a squad of about 25 players - something like 23 senior players and 2/3 youths making up the numbers."
How many PL teams have 23 senior players on their books (other than the Chelsea's and City's who have loan armies that are yet to be deployed as it's Mid-July)? Other than the ones in Europe I'd bet at the most 2 or 3.
"Remember in the PL a matchday squad is 18 players."
As opposed to last season in the Championship where it was clearly only 5 subs and it was roll-on roll-off subs. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.
"You need to be able to suffer 5 or so injuries at any one time and still be able to name a complete squad."
Again, how many PL teams other than the ones in Europe can do that? Palace completely fell apart at the start of last season because Zaha was injured.
"IMO we need GK, RB, RCB, LB, RW, CF in the first team and for competition, another two midfielders, a winger and a forward."
I've said in a few threads we need 6. That would leave us with;
Keepers; New Signing (Fabri), Bettinelli, Ashby-Hammond/Norman
Defenders;
RB: Christie, Odoi, S. Sessegnon
RCB: New Signing, Odoi
LCB: Le Marchand, Ream (order that however you want)
LB: New LB, Le Marchand, Odoi, Sessegnon if really necessary
Midfielders: Seri, Cairney, McDonald, Johansen, New Signing, O'Riley (could see Fonte ending up in this group as well).
Wingers: Sessegnon, New Signing, AK47, Ayite, Kebano
Strikers: New Signing (Mitrovic), AK47, Fonte.
"Just for context, we've signed 10-15 players every summer recently and that's been without the massive need to step up which we have to do this year."
Last summer we made 14. So we brought in a lot of bodies. And that served us so well. Cisse, Mollo, Graham, Rafa Soares all served us so well. Quality not quantity.
Here is a breakdown on squad usage last season in the PL
(https://preview.ibb.co/nB3JzJ/squad.png)
I'd add that if you use West Ham as the average team, then 6 of them made less than 9 apperences
We also have to take into consideration, injuries, suspensions and loss of form.
We are now in the Premier League, and if we come up short, we will get our backsides slapped very hard.
So it might be wise to start placing hard back magazines down the back of our shorts just in case.
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2018, 03:43:51 PM
Here is a breakdown on squad usage last season in the PL
(https://preview.ibb.co/nB3JzJ/squad.png)
For me if I have done my sums right, that works out at around 24 players per team on average.
Therefore, if we are using that as a marker, then currently two or three of our promising youngsters may get more game time than they realise.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 17, 2018, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2018, 03:43:51 PM
Here is a breakdown on squad usage last season in the PL
(https://preview.ibb.co/nB3JzJ/squad.png)
For me if I have done my sums right, that works out at around 24 players per team on average.
Therefore, if we are using that as a marker, then currently two or three of our promising youngsters may get more game time than they realise.
And thats about right. The majority of teams will use 3 or 4 youngsters to fill up games here and there. And why not if they are good enough.
We used 28 players last year, 9 played less than 10 games and of those 9 i'd say 4 are youngsters/reserves and the rest were loans/misfires.
Hardcore wise we need 18 and then 2 or 3 full squad players and then rest from youngsters.
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
How many PL teams have 23 senior players on their books (other than the Chelsea's and City's who have loan armies that are yet to be deployed as it's Mid-July)? Other than the ones in Europe I'd bet at the most 2 or 3.
MJG has saved me time by digging out the stats on this, which seems to be the only part of my post you actually challenge.
Looking at the teams we'll be competing with, Watford, Brighton and Huddersfield, average of 26 players used by each of those teams, of which on average 24 were starters.
On your numbers (14 of the current team plus 6 signings) we'd have Rodak, Steven Sessegnon and O'Riley, oh and Fonte, all starting league games at some point. Very keen to know who you'd have coming off the bench.
Id be careful with the starters number as that could mean they started just one game all season.
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
How many PL teams have 23 senior players on their books (other than the Chelsea's and City's who have loan armies that are yet to be deployed as it's Mid-July)? Other than the ones in Europe I'd bet at the most 2 or 3.
MJG has saved me time by digging out the stats on this, which seems to be the only part of my post you actually challenge.
Looking at the teams we'll be competing with, Watford, Brighton and Huddersfield, average of 26 players used by each of those teams, of which on average 24 were starters.
On your numbers (14 of the current team plus 6 signings) we'd have Rodak, Steven Sessegnon and O'Riley, oh and Fonte, all starting league games at some point. Very keen to know who you'd have coming off the bench.
As MJG has just pointed out, having "X" number of starters doesn't equate to having first team regulars.Not sure how you've worked out we'd have to play a 3rd choice Keeper at any point in the league. Unless you can see into the future and see Bettinelli and a Keeper we sign both getting injured at the same time.
I've not seen anything to suggest Jokanovic doesn't like working with a core group of about 20 and then having 3 or 4 kids in and around the squad as well.
In my ideal scenario my Starting XI and Bench would be
New GK; Christie, New CB, Le Marchand/Ream, New LB; McDonald, Cairney, Seri; New RW, New ST (Mitrovic), Sessegnon.
Bettinelli; Le Marchand/Ream, Odoi, New DM, Johansen, AK47, Ayite/Kebano/Fonte
and depending on the game I'd bring on Johansen, AK47, Ream/Le Marchand and/or Odoi if we want to switch to a 5 to protect a lead.
On the starters point, you mention Brighton. Among their "starters". Liam Rosenior (1), Connor Goldson (2), Jamie Murphy (1), Leonardo Ulloa (2), Izzy Brown (4).
And adding on to this you also mention Huddersfield;
Huddersfield;
Martin Cranie (2), Kasey Palmer (1), Abdelhamid Sabiri (2), Joe Lolley (2)
Three of that four weren't even at the club after the January window.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
How many PL teams have 23 senior players on their books (other than the Chelsea's and City's who have loan armies that are yet to be deployed as it's Mid-July)? Other than the ones in Europe I'd bet at the most 2 or 3.
MJG has saved me time by digging out the stats on this, which seems to be the only part of my post you actually challenge.
Looking at the teams we'll be competing with, Watford, Brighton and Huddersfield, average of 26 players used by each of those teams, of which on average 24 were starters.
On your numbers (14 of the current team plus 6 signings) we'd have Rodak, Steven Sessegnon and O'Riley, oh and Fonte, all starting league games at some point. Very keen to know who you'd have coming off the bench.
As MJG has just pointed out, having "X" number of starters doesn't equate to having first team regulars.Not sure how you've worked out we'd have to play a 3rd choice Keeper at any point in the league. Unless you can see into the future and see Bettinelli and a Keeper we sign both getting injured at the same time.
I've not seen anything to suggest Jokanovic doesn't like working with a core group of about 20 and then having 3 or 4 kids in and around the squad as well.
In my ideal scenario my Starting XI and Bench would be
New GK; Christie, New CB, Le Marchand/Ream, New LB; McDonald, Cairney, Seri; New RW, New ST (Mitrovic), Sessegnon.
Bettinelli; Le Marchand/Ream, Odoi, New DM, Johansen, AK47, Ayite/Kebano/Fonte
and depending on the game I'd bring on Johansen, AK47, Ream/Le Marchand and/or Odoi if we want to switch to a 5 to protect a lead.
On the starters point, you mention Brighton. Among their "starters". Liam Rosenior (1), Connor Goldson (2), Jamie Murphy (1), Leonardo Ulloa (2), Izzy Brown (4).
of the 14 players who played the most minutes (Picked 14 as starting XI and 3 subs used) they played a total 92.13% of playing time for Brighton.
The other 10 players had only 7.87% playing time between them. The equalivant of 7 mins playing time per game.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 04:25:15 PM
And adding on to this you also mention Huddersfield;
Huddersfield;
Martin Cranie (2), Kasey Palmer (1), Abdelhamid Sabiri (2), Joe Lolley (2)
Three of that four weren't even at the club after the January window.
Huddersfield first 14 players played 84.2% of all minutes.
I would rather quality come in personally. I would rather club focused on 6 new signings of real quality instead of average signings where they trying to bring in 10.
For me we need a GK , CB , LB , RM , ST X2
Would be happy to see for example Fabri , Musacchio, Targett , Cavaleiro , Mitrovic , J Ayew.
That would make us so much stronger.
I am happy to see O'Riley come in as a 5th CM & Steven Sessegnon as back up RB a thats what Academy is for for me. Ciise may not be good enough but he was new to England this is his 2nd Pre Season maybe Joka sees progress & thinks he could now be useful. We don't know what happens behind the scenes but after the last few years & the signings of Le Marchand & Seri I trust the club to do what's right for us to have a successful season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Indeed
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
How have you arrived at 10 players? We don't need to sign basically a whole team's worth of players when we've already got probably 5 or 6 of our main Starting XI for next season and decent depth in some areas already. I'd be happy with 6. A Keeper (Fabri), a RCB (Musacchio), a LB (Augustinsson, Bryan, Targett), a back-up DM (M'Vila), a Right-Winger (Cavaleiro, Malcom etc.) and a Striker (Mitrovic).
Sorry but we need at least two premier league quality signings up front.. and we need depth. We only have one GK, one RB... one semi decent CB in Ream (who's still got obvious weaknesses at this level), ... in fact that only position we have genuine quality and even the slightest depth is cm with seri, Johansen, Cairney, Mcdonald and Cisse.
Quote from: General on July 17, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Indeed
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
How have you arrived at 10 players? We don't need to sign basically a whole team's worth of players when we've already got probably 5 or 6 of our main Starting XI for next season and decent depth in some areas already. I'd be happy with 6. A Keeper (Fabri), a RCB (Musacchio), a LB (Augustinsson, Bryan, Targett), a back-up DM (M'Vila), a Right-Winger (Cavaleiro, Malcom etc.) and a Striker (Mitrovic).
Sorry but we need at least two premier league quality signings up front.. and we need depth. We only have one GK, one RB... one semi decent CB in Ream (who's still got obvious weaknesses at this level), ... in fact that only position we have genuine quality and even the slightest depth is cm with seri, Johansen, Cairney, Mcdonald and Cisse.
while I agree in an ideal world you have same quality across all positions, but that's not possible and you have utility men as well who cover more than one from time to time.
While Rodak and also Norman are not really what I'd like as second keeper, I know they are both good and for me is not something I'll lose sleep over.
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 05:16:00 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 04:18:57 PM
As MJG has just pointed out, having "X" number of starters doesn't equate to having first team regulars.Not sure how you've worked out we'd have to play a 3rd choice Keeper at any point in the league. Unless you can see into the future and see Bettinelli and a Keeper we sign both getting injured at the same time.
...
On the starters point, you mention Brighton. Among their "starters". Liam Rosenior (1), Connor Goldson (2), Jamie Murphy (1), Leonardo Ulloa (2), Izzy Brown (4).
But who are these people who are only going to start a few league games for us?
The reason I mentioned Rodak is you're proposing a squad of only 20/21 senior players plus youngsters which I presumed would be Rodak, Steven Sessegnon, O'Riley. So if we use 24 starters like our peers did last year, that means all those kids, including Rodak, getting starts at some point. Maybe Rodak doesn't get used and the 24th starter we have instead is Kait - does that win you the argument?
Sorry but it's all well and good saying "Izzy Brown only started 4 games" but in practical terms, what you're suggesting is next year we have Fonte as our equivalent, starting 4 games (please tell me in advance what those games are because I don't want to watch them) and presumably coming off the bench much more than that, and youngsters who weren't getting a look in for league games next year suddenly on the bench regularly and even thrown into the starting XI for the odd game, which by the way will be against the likes of Hazard and Aguero. It's on of those ideas that sounds ok... until you actually think about it.
The point I'm trying to make is I don't fundamentally believe we need to have "24 starters" after this window. The average is higher because it includes January transfers, the fact it was a weird season for Keepers in the Prem (Karius/Mignolet, Heaton/Pope, Karnezis/Gomes, Hart/Adrian etc.) which raises the average and it includes end of season rotation such as Ulloa getting a few pity starts at the end of the season, City and Liverpool changing everyone around the Champions League etc.
As MJG has said on here, Brighton and Huddersfield which were your examples had their "14 players" that they,more or less stuck to throughout the whole season. That 14 for me would be New Keeper, Christie, New CB, Le Marchand, New LB, McDonald, Cairney, Seri, New RW, New ST, Sessegnon, Ream, Johansen, AK47.
I won't say no to any further additions on top of my proposed 6 of course, but I'd be mindful of just padding the squad out with no-hopers like we did last summer with Cisse, Graham, Mollo etc. because as you say we're a Premier League team which means we'd be forking out more money for said no hopers. We've made 10+ signings the last two seasons, but we've ended up with among others Jozabed, Cyriac, Petsos, Mollo, Graham and Rafa Soares who have literally just cost us money in wages while barely contributing anything- and I'd rather have a smaller squad than have players hanging around and playing for our U23s in the JPT.
So all just chat no gossip for signings,boring?
I don't do twitter but a fellow Fulham fan told me he saw someone write that Mitro was seen at Motspur Park today.
Though someone replied this was fake news.
Who knows but would love It to be true.
Booooring
Quote from: hovewhite on July 17, 2018, 07:55:38 PM
Booooring
+1, probably needs a new squad strength topic. I keep checking in to see the latest transfer gossip & snippets & its post after post of squad size
Quote from: General on July 17, 2018, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: MrFFC on July 17, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
Malcolm won't be joining Fulham that's not realistic after heavy investment in Seri. They want 45m for him would much rather see that spent on Mitrovic , Cavaleiro & Musacchio for example
I think we are all in unchartered territory re this summer and khan's ambitions. He very may well realise this is the perfect time for heavy investment and to show the club is ambitious. Bringing in players like Seri too is a calling card to better players as an indication of what we're trying to build but also a standard.
Berba cam wanting to play with moussa Dembele. . Others came to play with Berba... others will come to play for Seri and other top players we buy. Better players, more wins, more revenue, higher league position, more televised games, more merchandise sold etc etc..
Good points General.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 17, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 17, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
Perhaps, but we are running out of time and have more or less reached the point where getting someone who has played here successfully before and knows our style will be a wiser choice than a better player who hasn't.
Sadly I don't think we will get Targett. We can't afford to wait for Southampton to make up their mind and gamble on a last minute loan.
As ridiculous as it sounds I personally think we need to see a new player every 3 days from now until deadline day to have a competetive squad. And that's the absolute minumum IMO. :022:
Indeed
3 weeks left of the window and we need 10 players IMO
One every other day
Also reckon we need 2/3 more Seri level signings. One of them per week.
How have you arrived at 10 players? We don't need to sign basically a whole team's worth of players when we've already got probably 5 or 6 of our main Starting XI for next season and decent depth in some areas already. I'd be happy with 6. A Keeper (Fabri), a RCB (Musacchio), a LB (Augustinsson, Bryan, Targett), a back-up DM (M'Vila), a Right-Winger (Cavaleiro, Malcom etc.) and a Striker (Mitrovic).
Agreed.
I think we need 3 players minimum: ST, LB, CB.
Then ideally we need 2-3 more to challenge the first team otherwise with 1-2 injuries we are fighting a relegation battle.
Quote from: Milo on July 17, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
I think we need 3 players minimum: ST, LB, CB.
Then ideally we need 2-3 more to challenge the first team otherwise with 1-2 injuries we are fighting a relegation battle.
With Button gone it becomes essential that we now sign a keeper. A lot has to happen in the next two or three weeks.
It is frustrating, to say the least, that the club have left signings late - for whatever reason. There is a risk that for the sake of a few dollars more initially the club could end up spending more ££ last minute on lesser quality players just to make the squad up..
We lost Kalas, Ojo, Norwood, Mitrovic, Piazon and Fredericks from a 3rd placed Championship side.
The gulf between the Championship and the Premiership is vast so just bringing in 2 players of Marchand and Seri quality will not cut it. Only have to cast your mind back to the cup v Totenham for proof of that.
The playing youngsters tactic didn't work that well last time the club tried.....
Expecting the Mitrovic deal to go ahead.. However, if it doesn't go through, we may see a lot more of Fonte.
Let's hope we get a few quality signings over the line soon.... But it's no wonder the bookies have Fulham at 13/8 favourites to be relegated. Let that sink in....
Love Fulham, Hate transfer windows!!
Quote from: Milo on July 17, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
I think we need 3 players minimum: ST, LB, CB.
Then ideally we need 2-3 more to challenge the first team otherwise with 1-2 injuries we are fighting a relegation battle.
Fulham will always be fighting relegation. And that's kind of awesome.
Quote from: David I on July 17, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
It is frustrating, to say the least, that the club have left signings late - for whatever reason. There is a risk that for the sake of a few dollars more initially the club could end up spending more ££ last minute on lesser quality players just to make the squad up..
We lost Kalas, Ojo, Norwood, Mitrovic, Piazon and Fredericks from a 3rd placed Championship side.
The gulf between the Championship and the Premiership is vast so just bringing in 2 players of Marchand and Seri quality will not cut it. Only have to cast your mind back to the cup v Totenham for proof of that.
The playing youngsters tactic didn't work that well last time the club tried.....
Expecting the Mitrovic deal to go ahead.. However, if it doesn't go through, we may see a lot more of Fonte.
Let's hope we get a few quality signings over the line soon.... But it's no wonder the bookies have Fulham at 13/8 favourites to be relegated. Let that sink in....
Love Fulham, Hate transfer windows!!
Ha ha trying to remember which advert that quote is from..
Ps Having seen Rodak play at the Shrews this year I think he's a competent 3rd choice! But agree we need another keeper for no. 2.
I do think Betts will play for England at one point in 2-3 years because his competition is in a similar mould. Just simply being in the Prem and being in the public eye will ensure that.
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: David I on July 17, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
We lost Kalas, Ojo, Norwood, Mitrovic, Piazon and Fredericks from a 3rd placed Championship side.
And Targett.
And Button.
We were arguably worse with Button in the team so that doesn't really make much difference. I reckon Rodak is better suited to us than Button is
Quote from: Milo on July 17, 2018, 08:55:40 PM
Ps Having seen Rodak play at the Shrews this year I think he's a competent 3rd choice! But agree we need another keeper for no. 2.
I do think Betts will play for England at one point in 2-3 years because his competition is in a similar mound. Just simply being in the Prem and being in the public eye will ensure that.
Where do you live, I go to see the Shrews quite often, I live near Bishops Castle.
Have signed Michael Olakigbe for the academy.
http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=28555
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 17, 2018, 09:45:36 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 17, 2018, 08:55:40 PM
Ps Having seen Rodak play at the Shrews this year I think he's a competent 3rd choice! But agree we need another keeper for no. 2.
I do think Betts will play for England at one point in 2-3 years because his competition is in a similar mound. Just simply being in the Prem and being in the public eye will ensure that.
Where do you live, I go to see the Shrews quite often, I live near Bishops Castle.
Hey FulhamStu, have drunk many a pint of Three Tuns stout in my time at BC! Very jealous!
My father lives in Shrewsbury itself near the Mount.
According to sky sources, malcom is in advanced talks with Everton.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
According to sky sources, malcom is in advanced talks with Everton.
£30 mill deal, and Fulham had a £40 mill bid? 🙈
Quote from: Hoppus on July 17, 2018, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
According to sky sources, malcom is in advanced talks with Everton.
£30 mill deal, and Fulham had a £40 mill bid? 🙈
sky sports lyall said we didn't make a bid and weren't interested
Quote from: David I on July 17, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
But it's no wonder the bookies have Fulham at 13/8 favourites to be relegated. Let that sink in....
That's odd as SKYBET have us as FORTH favorites to go down??
Premier League Relegation 18/19
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Cardiff
4/6
Huddersfield
6/5
Watford
7/4
Fulham
15/8But I agree about the need for better quality players, but don't sell the Squad short. From January onwards (when we had the bulk of our Wembley team actually playing) we were the best form team in the Championship. 049:gif
COYW
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 17, 2018, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: David I on July 17, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
But it's no wonder the bookies have Fulham at 13/8 favourites to be relegated. Let that sink in....
That's odd as SKYBET have us as FORTH favorites to go down??
Premier League Relegation 18/19
Bets placed in accordance with our Market Rules
Cardiff
4/6
Huddersfield
6/5
Watford
7/4
Fulham
15/8
But I agree about the need for better quality players, but don't sell the Squad short. From January onwards (when we had the bulk of our Wembley team actually playing) we were the best form team in the Championship. 049:gif
COYW
yes and we don't have 30% of that first 11 now. Until we get some decent recruits, we are what we are, a weaker team than the one that went up through the play offs
Quote from: General on July 17, 2018, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 17, 2018, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
According to sky sources, malcom is in advanced talks with Everton.
£30 mill deal, and Fulham had a £40 mill bid? 🙈
sky sports lyall said we didn't make a bid and weren't interested
Strange as sky bet don't any odds for Malcom joining Everton, you think they would update accordingly
Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 11:16:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2018, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 17, 2018, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: David I on July 17, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
But it's no wonder the bookies have Fulham at 13/8 favourites to be relegated. Let that sink in....
That's odd as SKYBET have us as FORTH favorites to go down??
Premier League Relegation 18/19
Bets placed in accordance with our Market Rules
Cardiff
4/6
Huddersfield
6/5
Watford
7/4
Fulham
15/8
But I agree about the need for better quality players, but don't sell the Squad short. From January onwards (when we had the bulk of our Wembley team actually playing) we were the best form team in the Championship. 049:gif
COYW
yes and we don't have 30% of that first 11 now. Until we get some decent recruits, we are what we are, a weaker team than the one that went up through the play offs
We're 3rd favourites to go down with William Hill.
The worrying thing about all that is, those aren't price based on the bookies'/punters' opinion on our current squad (or should i say half a squad) ... that's bookies/punters considering our current squad AND the players they think we'll buy, and still thinking we'll go down. Even with the Seri signing.
But they don't know who we'll buy though do they? Every year the promoted sides are odds on to go down because it's a logical bet to make. If we signed Messi tomorrow then obviously the odds will lengthen. There's no point making an informed bet until the day after the transfer window closes because the squads are finalised until at least January.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 17, 2018, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: General on July 17, 2018, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on July 17, 2018, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
According to sky sources, malcom is in advanced talks with Everton.
£30 mill deal, and Fulham had a £40 mill bid? 🙈
sky sports lyall said we didn't make a bid and weren't interested
Strange as sky bet don't any odds for Malcom joining Everton, you think they would update accordingly
Suspended betting due to apparently moving to Everton?
Not sure we were definitely in for Malcom but if we were I'd be a bit disappointed if he went to Everton. Could've understood Inter but Everton? Nah
No disrespect to Everton who are a far bigger club than us but thought London would even that up? Home to one of the biggest ex pat Brazilian communities in the world etc
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
:wow: Splendid news, is this the 5 aside team or the 11 aside team we are talking about ? :beer:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
All we need now is a Striker!😂
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 06:50:09 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
:wow: Splendid news, is this the 5 aside team or the 11 aside team we are talking about ? :beer:
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Quote from: Statto on July 17, 2018, 05:56:37 PM
MJG if you're suggesting it's OK to have Betts and Rodak / Norman as our keepers next year, you've lost 75% of all your hard-earned credibility with me right there. Betts is arguably not good enough and given his injury history, certainly won't be available for 38 games. More importantly, it would be a backward step on what we had in that position last year. Criminal.
We're going into a season where the very best outcome is probably finishing 6 pts above the relegation zone. In reality our survival margin will probably be even smaller than that. With such fine fine margins, we cant wing it after a slow start or playing our kids to cover injuries.
My comment was that I would not lose any sleep if either Rodak or Norman were are number two going into the season. Who the number one is was not relevant to that point.
What I was trying to say is they are both good keepers.
We do want and require another GK to challenge or replace Betts that's for sure.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
Agreed Mince.
When we came up last time we were favourite s to go down but finished comfortably. There are a lot of poor teams in the PL. More than there were on our previous promotion imo.
We do need 6 extra quality players tho.
Looking at MJG's table I note that Burnley played almost the same team throughout the season. This was a similar tactic to Hodgeson's with us. That is the model I would prefer, and suspect, Joka to use. He doesn't make changes to the core team for the sake of it.
CoYW!
Quote from: David I on July 17, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
Expecting the Mitrovic deal to go ahead.. However, if it doesn't go through, we may see a lot more of Fonte.
Perish the thought, wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!
Fulham face competition from FC Basel for Young Boys' right back Kevin Mbabu, according to Sky sources.
The Cottagers want to sign the former Newcastle man but they've yet to make a formal bid and we understand Young Boys have rejected a £7m bid from Basel for the defender and value him at £10m.
Mbabu signed for the Swiss Champions from Newcastle United last summer and helped Young Boys win the Swiss Super League for the first time in 32 years.
Last year, Mbabu was timed as the second fastest player in the world, behind Real Madrid's Gareth Bale.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 18, 2018, 08:48:10 AM
Fulham face competition from FC Basel for Young Boys' right back Kevin Mbabu, according to Sky sources.
The Cottagers want to sign the former Newcastle man but they've yet to make a formal bid and we understand Young Boys have rejected a £7m bid from Basel for the defender and value him at £10m.
Mbabu signed for the Swiss Champions from Newcastle United last summer and helped Young Boys win the Swiss Super League for the first time in 32 years.
Last year, Mbabu was timed as the second fastest player in the world, behind Real Madrid's Gareth Bale.
Basically like for like with Fredericks from what I gather.
Quote from: charliejones141 on July 18, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 18, 2018, 08:48:10 AM
Fulham face competition from FC Basel for Young Boys' right back Kevin Mbabu, according to Sky sources.
The Cottagers want to sign the former Newcastle man but they've yet to make a formal bid and we understand Young Boys have rejected a £7m bid from Basel for the defender and value him at £10m.
Mbabu signed for the Swiss Champions from Newcastle United last summer and helped Young Boys win the Swiss Super League for the first time in 32 years.
Last year, Mbabu was timed as the second fastest player in the world, behind Real Madrid's Gareth Bale.
Basically like for like with Fredericks from what I gather.
he seems to have overcome his previous troubles with Newcastle.
I would suggest working under Joka would be good for him, and us, if we were to make a move.
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
[When we came up last time we were favourite s to go down but finished comfortably. There are a lot of poor teams in the PL. More than there were on our previous promotion imo.
We do need 6 extra quality players tho.
Looking at MJG's table I note that Burnley played almost the same team throughout the season. This was a similar tactic to Hodgeson's with us. That is the model I would prefer, and suspect, Joka to use. He doesn't make changes to the core team for the sake of it.
When we came up last time we'd absolutely romped the league and owned all our key players except Boa Morte. But we still spunked about £40m on 9/10 new players, who knows what that amount equates to in today's market but it was massive.
Also look at MJG's other posts, we used 28 players last year.
40m on 9/10 players?
First game at man utd featured van der sa and steed compared to tge promotion team from what i can remember. Goma was bought previous season and not sure if leggy played first games.
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
[When we came up last time we were favourite s to go down but finished comfortably. There are a lot of poor teams in the PL. More than there were on our previous promotion imo.
We do need 6 extra quality players tho.
Looking at MJG's table I note that Burnley played almost the same team throughout the season. This was a similar tactic to Hodgeson's with us. That is the model I would prefer, and suspect, Joka to use. He doesn't make changes to the core team for the sake of it.
When we came up last time we'd absolutely romped the league and owned all our key players except Boa Morte. But we still spunked about £40m on 9/10 new players, who knows what that amount equates to in today's market but it was massive.
Also look at MJG's other posts, we used 28 players last year.
Re: 28 players used. How many were players like DLT, Edun, Djalo, Aluko, Mollo, Graham, Cisse, Soares... all of whom played less than 3/1/2 games worth... that drops us down to a core 20 players who played most games in a season (I've included Christie here who only started 1 game) which had 8 games more than the league we are going into. We are on 15 players now (Rodak included).
Source: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/170/Show/England-Fulham
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
[When we came up last time we were favourite s to go down but finished comfortably. There are a lot of poor teams in the PL. More than there were on our previous promotion imo.
We do need 6 extra quality players tho.
Looking at MJG's table I note that Burnley played almost the same team throughout the season. This was a similar tactic to Hodgeson's with us. That is the model I would prefer, and suspect, Joka to use. He doesn't make changes to the core team for the sake of it.
When we came up last time we'd absolutely romped the league and owned all our key players except Boa Morte. But we still spunked about £40m on 9/10 new players, who knows what that amount equates to in today's market but it was massive.
Also look at MJG's other posts, we used 28 players last year.
With respect your being a tad alarmist Statto.
Yes we had 28 players used last season. But 9 of those played only 2-6 games.
Mitro only played 17 games.
Targett played 18
My point is, only 14 players of the 28 in the squad played 26+ games in the season.
Only 10 of those played 33+ games
And only 9 of those were starting 11.
So the the core team is only 10-14 players.
You don't need 24 1st team players in the squad.
That, imo, is a luxury of the top 6 teams and they have to rotate regularly to keep everyone happy.
COYW!
Evening Standard reporting we are closing in on Mitrovic signing (once he's back from leave). Nothing new really there but better than reports of others close to snapping my him up instead (report mentions Fenerbache's interest but that we're still in the driving seat, which is positive):
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-close-in-on-20m-aleksandar-mitrovic-transfer-a3889906.html
If Everton sign Malcolm, does that leave Bolasie free to leave and if so, do you think we should go in for him?
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 10:44:51 AM
With respect your being a tad alarmist Statto.
Yes we had 28 players used last season. But 9 of those played only 2-6 games.
Mitro only played 17 games.
Targett played 18
My point is, only 14 players of the 28 in the squad played 26+ games in the season.
Only 10 of those played 33+ games
And only 9 of those were starting 11.
So the the core team is only 10-14 players.
You don't need 24 1st team players in the squad.
That, imo, is a luxury of the top 6 teams and they have to rotate regularly to keep everyone happy.
where have i said you need 24 1st team players?
all i'm saying is we need a higher standard of squad player
do the maths, "9 of those played only 2-6 games" means those players playing 18-54 games total, so 1-2 of those players in the team every week
Some on here are saying bettinelli, targett, even mitro mcdonald ream kalas aren't good enough FFS... Yet they're happy with at least one first team spot being occupied by the likes of Djalo/Edun/Fossey each week
Two quotes suggesting similar:
"IMO you need a squad of about 25 players - something like 23 senior players and 2/3 youths making up the numbers. "
"Looking at the teams we'll be competing with, Watford, Brighton and Huddersfield, average of 26 players used by each of those teams, of which on average 24 were starters."
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: Marinelloguthrie on July 18, 2018, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
[When we came up last time we were favourite s to go down but finished comfortably. There are a lot of poor teams in the PL. More than there were on our previous promotion imo.
We do need 6 extra quality players tho.
Looking at MJG's table I note that Burnley played almost the same team throughout the season. This was a similar tactic to Hodgeson's with us. That is the model I would prefer, and suspect, Joka to use. He doesn't make changes to the core team for the sake of it.
When we came up last time we'd absolutely romped the league and owned all our key players except Boa Morte. But we still spunked about £40m on 9/10 new players, who knows what that amount equates to in today's market but it was massive.
Also look at MJG's other posts, we used 28 players last year.
40m on 9/10 players?
First game at man utd featured van der sa and steed compared to tge promotion team from what i can remember. Goma was bought previous season and not sure if leggy played first games.
VDS
Ouaddou
Malbranque
Jon Harley
Legwinski
Marlet
Boa Morte made perm
couple of squad players
30m tops which is what we have just spent on two players..
Quote from: Marinelloguthrie on July 18, 2018, 11:06:56 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: Marinelloguthrie on July 18, 2018, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
[When we came up last time we were favourite s to go down but finished comfortably. There are a lot of poor teams in the PL. More than there were on our previous promotion imo.
We do need 6 extra quality players tho.
Looking at MJG's table I note that Burnley played almost the same team throughout the season. This was a similar tactic to Hodgeson's with us. That is the model I would prefer, and suspect, Joka to use. He doesn't make changes to the core team for the sake of it.
When we came up last time we'd absolutely romped the league and owned all our key players except Boa Morte. But we still spunked about £40m on 9/10 new players, who knows what that amount equates to in today's market but it was massive.
Also look at MJG's other posts, we used 28 players last year.
40m on 9/10 players?
First game at man utd featured van der sa and steed compared to tge promotion team from what i can remember. Goma was bought previous season and not sure if leggy played first games.
VDS
Ouaddou
Malbranque
Jon Harley
Legwinski
Marlet
Boa Morte made perm
couple of squad players
30m tops which is what we have just spent on two players..
It was £30M in August because the saying at the time was we spent a million pound a day that month.
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 10:44:51 AM
With respect your being a tad alarmist Statto.
Yes we had 28 players used last season. But 9 of those played only 2-6 games.
Mitro only played 17 games.
Targett played 18
My point is, only 14 players of the 28 in the squad played 26+ games in the season.
Only 10 of those played 33+ games
And only 9 of those were starting 11.
So the the core team is only 10-14 players.
You don't need 24 1st team players in the squad.
That, imo, is a luxury of the top 6 teams and they have to rotate regularly to keep everyone happy.
where have i said you need 24 1st team players?
all i'm saying is we need a higher standard of squad player
do the maths, "9 of those played only 2-6 games" means those players playing 18-54 games total, so 1-2 of those players in the team every week
Some on here are saying bettinelli, targett, even mitro mcdonald ream kalas aren't good enough FFS... Yet they're happy with at least one first team spot being occupied by the likes of Djalo/Edun/Fossey each week
fyi, I didn't say you did say that Statto.
The "9 of those played only 2-6 games" were not starters. Some came on on as subs, usually for 10-20 mins tops.
So your "do the maths, 9 of those played only 2-6 games" means those players playing 18-54 games total, so 1-2 of those players in the team every week"
is specious in the extreme.
My point was, the Burnley model works well, imo, and that is what I believe Joka will use.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 11:18:00 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 18, 2018, 10:44:51 AM
With respect your being a tad alarmist Statto.
Yes we had 28 players used last season. But 9 of those played only 2-6 games.
Mitro only played 17 games.
Targett played 18
My point is, only 14 players of the 28 in the squad played 26+ games in the season.
Only 10 of those played 33+ games
And only 9 of those were starting 11.
So the the core team is only 10-14 players.
You don't need 24 1st team players in the squad.
That, imo, is a luxury of the top 6 teams and they have to rotate regularly to keep everyone happy.
where have i said you need 24 1st team players?
all i'm saying is we need a higher standard of squad player
do the maths, "9 of those played only 2-6 games" means those players playing 18-54 games total, so 1-2 of those players in the team every week
Some on here are saying bettinelli, targett, even mitro mcdonald ream kalas aren't good enough FFS... Yet they're happy with at least one first team spot being occupied by the likes of Djalo/Edun/Fossey each week
fyi, I didn't say you did say that Statto.
The "9 of those played only 2-6 games" were not starters. Some came on on as subs, usually for 10-20 mins tops.
So your "do the maths, 9 of those played only 2-6 games" means those players playing 18-54 games total, so 1-2 of those players in the team every week"
is specious in the extreme.
My point was, the Burnley model works well, imo, and that is what I believe Joka will use.
COYW!
Those 9 players played 2.33% of the total match time.
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2018, 11:22:05 AM
Those 9 players played 2.33% of the total match time. On avg about 2 minutes per game across all 46 games.
each or in aggregate?
Ignore last bit as I got interupted while typing and didnt finish what I wanted to write. the 2.33% is the total match time across all the players across all the season.
We now have an acadamy with decent young players coming through. Should we buy players we totally block their route to the first team and get peanuts for them. I would by happy to sign our loaners from last year plus a couple more
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
what's "total match time"? 46 x 90 x 11?
49 games (playoffs) x 90 x 11 48510 (48363 with sendings off) mins those 9 players was 1128 which is 2.32% if rounded down.
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2018, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2018, 11:22:05 AM
Those 9 players played 2.33% of the total match time. On avg about 2 minutes per game across all 46 games.
each or in aggregate?
Ignore last bit as I got interupted while typing and didnt finish what I wanted to write. the 2.33% is the total match time across all the players across all the season.
so someone playing all 46 games is only playing 9% of total match time? (100% / 11)
in that case 2.33 % seems a bit more significant doesn't it
Its the spreading of that time across a number of players thats the point. Saying a team used 30 players when one of them only played a minute is wrong way of looking at things. You need to dig down. Those 9, without looking too deeply at it, I suspect hardly played a game together across their 10 starts and 27 sub apps. And Aluko accounts for 4 of those starts.
Yaaaaaaaaawn
Dog days of Summer - nearly 100 pages and one piece of action (albeit two players).
Hopefully more some real news soon.
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So...would anyone take Bolasie then?
I don't see Mitro moving away on a loan to Fenerbache. Smacks of the Wilshere rumour, which was total bogus. Turkish press makes up a lot of things to get the readers from the three top teams excited.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2018, 11:51:59 AM
So...would anyone take Bolasie then?
Yes. Definetly.
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2018, 11:37:37 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2018, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 18, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 18, 2018, 11:22:05 AM
Those 9 players played 2.33% of the total match time. On avg about 2 minutes per game across all 46 games.
each or in aggregate?
Ignore last bit as I got interupted while typing and didnt finish what I wanted to write. the 2.33% is the total match time across all the players across all the season.
so someone playing all 46 games is only playing 9% of total match time? (100% / 11)
in that case 2.33 % seems a bit more significant doesn't it
Its the spreading of that time across a number of players thats the point. Saying a team used 30 players when one of them only played a minute is wrong way of looking at things. You need to dig down. Those 9, without looking too deeply at it, I suspect hardly played a game together across their 10 starts and 27 sub apps. And Aluko accounts for 4 of those starts.
10 starts and 27 sub appearances = "hardly a game together"?
Surely a start is average about 80 mins, sub appearance maybe only 10 mins, so maybe about 12 games total
Out of 644 overall...
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2018, 11:52:43 AM
I don't see Mitro moving away on a loan to Fenerbache. Smacks of the Wilshere rumour, which was total bogus. Turkish press makes up a lot of things to get the readers from the three top teams excited.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2018, 11:51:59 AM
So...would anyone take Bolasie then?
Yes. Definetly.
Well, he has only played 29 matches in two years due to best part of 13 months cruciate injury lay-off, and he is now 29.
Quote from: Andy S on July 18, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
We now have an acadamy with decent young players coming through. Should we buy players we totally block their route to the first team and get peanuts for them. I would by happy to sign our loaners from last year plus a couple more
There was talk of getting Kalas and Piazon for £10m the pair.
Not sure how true that was, but if so I'd take both as squad players.
A snip for their quality in today's market.
No risk, they like the club and like playing for us.
we need about 18 players a few youngster we aint in Europe theres less games to play and we do crap in cups unless its in Europe. Now can we get back to when Mitro, Malcolm and sum crap Liverpool keeper once they sign Allison rumours
http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=28555
Is this news? I may have missed it earlier. One for the future?
Quote from: WoodyFFC73 on July 18, 2018, 12:39:39 PM
http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=28555
Is this news? I may have missed it earlier. One for the future?
Posted it earlier, but it probably got lost in the squad size bickering. I have no idea about this player, but it is nice to see that the academy is getting in players.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
Just try naming our two centre backs against Palace, we will be caught with our trousers down if we do not replace some of the lost loan players within the next week or two.
Quote from: Andy S on July 18, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
We now have an acadamy with decent young players coming through. Should we buy players we totally block their route to the first team and get peanuts for them. I would by happy to sign our loaners from last year plus a couple more
We certainly do seem to have a great Academy.
Only thing is how many of them make into the team for very long or at all.
I'm sure there's a lot more over the last few years.
Dembele, Roberts, Woodrow, Plumain, Donnelly, Evans, Briggs, Banya, George Williams,
Kavanagh, Hyndman, Arthurworrey, with only Betts and Sess making an impact
Before anyone jumps on my head, I'm 68 and forgetful.
Local Everton news:"Everton NOT interested in Bordeaux winger Malcom"
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-not-interested-bordeaux-winger-14922921
Quote from: filham on July 18, 2018, 12:51:42 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
Just try naming our two centre backs against Palace, we will be caught with our trousers down if we do not replace some of the lost loan players within the next week or two.
Ream and Marchand
Quote from: twang on July 18, 2018, 12:53:46 PM
Local Everton news:"Everton NOT interested in Bordeaux winger Malcom"
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-not-interested-bordeaux-winger-14922921
Everton being a much bigger club than us, does this mean they are even more uninterested than we are?
We need a LB, CB, and Mitrovic. That's the bare minimum to stand a chance of survival.
To really give our system a chance of top 10 this year we need to improve on the main foundations of our squad and philosophy ie keeper and two full backs - the key to getting the ball out of defence and up to our danger men.
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
We need a LB, CB, and Mitrovic. That's the bare minimum to stand a chance of survival.
To really give our system a chance of top 10 this year we need to improve on the main foundations of our squad and philosophy ie keeper and two full backs - the key to getting the ball out of defence and up to our danger men.
Saw on twitter we had a offer in for Bertrand... whether true or not I do not know... Targett or Bertrand?
With Liverpool agreeing a fee for Alisson, I imagine Simon Mignolet would be surplus to requirements - possible competition for Bettinelli this season?
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 18, 2018, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
We need a LB, CB, and Mitrovic. That's the bare minimum to stand a chance of survival.
To really give our system a chance of top 10 this year we need to improve on the main foundations of our squad and philosophy ie keeper and two full backs - the key to getting the ball out of defence and up to our danger men.
Saw on twitter we had a offer in for Bertrand... whether true or not I do not know... Targett or Bertrand?
One is a PL veteran who has performed for years now, and the other has less than 50 first team appearances and half a good season in the championship.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 18, 2018, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
We need a LB, CB, and Mitrovic. That's the bare minimum to stand a chance of survival.
To really give our system a chance of top 10 this year we need to improve on the main foundations of our squad and philosophy ie keeper and two full backs - the key to getting the ball out of defence and up to our danger men.
Saw on twitter we had a offer in for Bertrand... whether true or not I do not know... Targett or Bertrand?
Bertrand all day - almost certainly rubbish though as he is after a move to a "big" club by the sounds of things. A move to Fulham is sideways at best. Maybe just a tactic to encourage them to let Targett go - or (more likely IMO) the usual Twitter nonsense.
I've scanned the last few pages of this thread and not seen this.... best dreads since Rufus?
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/whites-keen-to-sign-former-newcastle-defender
Fulham are interested in signing former Newcastle right-back Kevin Mbabu from Swiss club Young Boys.
The 23-year-old joined Newcastle in 2013 and made just three league appearances for the Magpies before returning to his native Switzerland.
His performances have since attracted interest from a number of clubs and Fulham are ready to hand him the chance of a return to England.
The Whites have been looking for a right-back since losing Ryan Fredericks to West Ham.
They have made an approach for Mbabu but are yet to submit a formal bid.
Reports in the Swiss media suggest Basel are also interested in him.
Not being funny, but Bertrand will either go for a bigger club than Saints or sign a a new bumper contract.....I don't imagine theres much fruit to it but happily be wrong! On a side of who would you rather, Targett or Bertrand, its an absolute no brainer. Ones international quality, one isn't and thats absolutely no disrespect to Targett who i'm a huge fan of!
Barrett 487 ... Newcastle fans on twitter liked him and were confused why he left after a few appearances - i think at £10m he'd be a useful purchase as he has pace, physicality and can play either RB, LB, or CB apparently.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 18, 2018, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
We need a LB, CB, and Mitrovic. That's the bare minimum to stand a chance of survival.
To really give our system a chance of top 10 this year we need to improve on the main foundations of our squad and philosophy ie keeper and two full backs - the key to getting the ball out of defence and up to our danger men.
Saw on twitter we had a offer in for Bertrand... whether true or not I do not know... Targett or Bertrand?
Ca plane pour moi
Quote from: twang on July 18, 2018, 12:53:46 PM
Local Everton news:"Everton NOT interested in Bordeaux winger Malcom"
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-not-interested-bordeaux-winger-14922921
Given that we've spend so many pages on "squad size" - the interesting thing from this article is -
Everton must also reduce the size of their squad and following the departures of Joel Robles, Ramiro Funes Mori, Wayne Rooney and Luke Garbutt, on loan, are looking to move on more players before the end of August.So not only have they moved on 4 players and brought in no one - they still have a bucket full of players to move on
Makes our situation look dandy
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 18, 2018, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on July 18, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
We now have an acadamy with decent young players coming through. Should we buy players we totally block their route to the first team and get peanuts for them. I would by happy to sign our loaners from last year plus a couple more
We certainly do seem to have a great Academy.
Only thing is how many of them make into the team for very long or at all.
I'm sure there's a lot more over the last few years.
Dembele, Roberts, Woodrow, Plumain, Donnelly, Evans, Briggs, Banya, George Williams,
Kavanagh, Hyndman, Arthurworrey, with only Betts and Sess making an impact
Before anyone jumps on my head, I'm 68 and forgetful.
Just seen something on a player at youth level now at man City called Taylor Richards and him being likened to neymar.. then transpired he was a Fulham U14 player. Anyone know anything about him and why he left?
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Lot of bed wetting going on about the bookies odds about relegation. Weren't Newcastle and Brighton in that sphere last season,and I'd say we're better than them.
Yes we need a few players in but I believe what we have at moment will easily be mid table.Coyw.
We're a better side than some of you think. 049:gif
Just try naming our two centre backs against Palace, we will be caught with our trousers down if we do not replace some of the lost loan players within the next week or two.
Ream and Marchand
so two left-sided CBs and a left back as backup
that will work... just as long as our opponents are all heavily right-footed
I didn't say it was good or bad or ideal but he asked the question.
Now that Everton are out of the Malcom hunt - is there a possibility that Tony Khan could nip in with the Ace of Trumps?
Quote from the new Chelsea manager
'THE TRANSFER MARKET BORES ME'
Bit like this thread for the last umpteen pages 093.gif
Quote from: Roberty on July 18, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
Now that Everton are out of the Malcom hunt - is there a possibility that Tony Khan could nip in with the Ace of Trumps?
Yes but are they? French sources saying Everton are definitely talking to Bordeaux
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 18, 2018, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 18, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
Now that Everton are out of the Malcom hunt - is there a possibility that Tony Khan could nip in with the Ace of Trumps?
Yes but are they? French sources saying Everton are definitely talking to Bordeaux
This afternoon a reporter for the local paper says they're not - I would imagine he knows someone at the club
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 18, 2018, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 18, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
Now that Everton are out of the Malcom hunt - is there a possibility that Tony Khan could nip in with the Ace of Trumps?
Yes but are they? French sources saying Everton are definitely talking to Bordeaux
There's a big difference talking to a cub vs talking to a player and having a bid accepted.. which seems to be the difference between a lot of articles.. that said Liverpool echo and Bordeaux local paper both say they're not in discussions... more believable if both local papers say nothing is going on..
Diego Rolan (Bordeaux) joins Deportivo La Coruna
Uruguay's Girondins de Bordeaux striker Diego Rolan has signed up for the Spanish club in La Coruna.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 03:55:45 PM
Diego Rolan (Bordeaux) joins Deportivo La Coruna
Uruguay's Girondins de Bordeaux striker Diego Rolan has signed up for the Spanish club in La Coruna.
Another one we missed out on. Damn.
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Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 03:55:45 PM
Diego Rolan (Bordeaux) joins Deportivo La Coruna
Uruguay's Girondins de Bordeaux striker Diego Rolan has signed up for the Spanish club in La Coruna.
Another one we missed out on. Damn.
Sincerely hoping this is sarcastic??
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 03:55:45 PM
Diego Rolan (Bordeaux) joins Deportivo La Coruna
Uruguay's Girondins de Bordeaux striker Diego Rolan has signed up for the Spanish club in La Coruna.
Another one we missed out on. Damn.
More like we were saved by divine intervention
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Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 03:55:45 PM
Diego Rolan (Bordeaux) joins Deportivo La Coruna
Uruguay's Girondins de Bordeaux striker Diego Rolan has signed up for the Spanish club in La Coruna.
Another one we missed out on. Damn.
Sincerely hoping this is sarcastic??
Can confirm it is in fact, sarcastic. ITK confirmed.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2018, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 18, 2018, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 18, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 03:55:45 PM
Diego Rolan (Bordeaux) joins Deportivo La Coruna
Uruguay's Girondins de Bordeaux striker Diego Rolan has signed up for the Spanish club in La Coruna.
Another one we missed out on. Damn.
Sincerely hoping this is sarcastic??
Can confirm it is in fact, sarcastic. ITK confirmed.
Jolly good.
Seeing a few things on Twitter saying we're in for Wilmar Barrios.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Seeing a few things on Twitter saying we're in for Wilmar Barrios.
Some saying we have offered his 16 million (not sure what currency) release clause
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Seeing a few things on Twitter saying we're in for Wilmar Barrios.
Quite a few sources too.
Barrios, Mitrovic, Malcom, Musacchio, Fabri and Augustinsson on top of Seri and Le Marchand would be quite a summer.
Although where would we fit all the talent?
GK - Fabri
LB Augustinsson
CB - le marchand
CB - Musacchio
RB - christie
DM barrios
Cm Seri
Cm cairney
Lw - sesessegnon
RW - malcom
St - Mitrovic
That'd be quite the sight for sore eyes.
What happened to that Argentine boy we signed was going to be the real deal,centre back wasn't he.
Is he still here?😵
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 05:23:39 PM
What happened to that Argentine boy we signed was going to be the real deal,centre back wasn't he.
Is he still here?😵
He left the club. Can't remember a thing about him.would be intrigued to know how he's getting on though.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 05:23:39 PM
What happened to that Argentine boy we signed was going to be the real deal,centre back wasn't he.
Is he still here?😵
He left the club. Can't remember a thing about him.would be intrigued to know how he's getting on though.
Casasola? He has been in Italy in various Serie B/C clubs so I don't think we missed out on much.
Targett's still a target
https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/18/fulham-reportedly-lodge-8m-bid-for-matt-targett/
FULHAM REPORTEDLY LODGE £8M BID FOR MATT TARGETT
Fulham are continuing to pursue a deal for Southampton defender Matt Targett and according to claims from the Mirror, the Whites have made an improved bid for the left-back.
Targett spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage and played an instrumental role as they secured promotion to the Premier League via the Championship play-offs.
It was reported earlier on this summer that Fulham had seen a bid worth £10 million rejected by Saints, with the club keen to retain their academy graduate's services.
However, it was later claimed in different reports that the London club's bid was only priced at £5 million. This, of course, was knocked back despite Fulham's persistent efforts to land Targett.
New indications from the Mirror today, though, claim that Fulham are continuing to step up their efforts to land Targett, with an offer worth £8m submitted to Southampton.
Saints are under no pressure to sell their promising left-back but it's thought that Targett is desperate to play regular first-team football. With Ryan Bertrand seemingly set to stay at St Mary's, Targett could find a starting place in Mark Hughes' line-up a tricky objective to achieve.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 05:23:39 PM
What happened to that Argentine boy we signed was going to be the real deal,centre back wasn't he.
Is he still here?😵
He left the club. Can't remember a thing about him.would be intrigued to know how he's getting on though.
Casasola? He has been in Italy in various Serie B/C clubs so I don't think we missed out on much.
According to Wikipedia he's still only 22.. playing at a serie B side.
Meanwhile marcello trotta is on loan to a unknown serie A side..
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 05:50:07 PM
Targett's still a target
https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/18/fulham-reportedly-lodge-8m-bid-for-matt-targett/
FULHAM REPORTEDLY LODGE £8M BID FOR MATT TARGETT
Fulham are continuing to pursue a deal for Southampton defender Matt Targett and according to claims from the Mirror, the Whites have made an improved bid for the left-back.
Targett spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage and played an instrumental role as they secured promotion to the Premier League via the Championship play-offs.
It was reported earlier on this summer that Fulham had seen a bid worth £10 million rejected by Saints, with the club keen to retain their academy graduate's services.
If we continue to improve our bids, we might get him for free.
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Quote from: Barrett487 on July 18, 2018, 05:50:07 PM
Targett's still a target
https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/18/fulham-reportedly-lodge-8m-bid-for-matt-targett/
FULHAM REPORTEDLY LODGE £8M BID FOR MATT TARGETT
Fulham are continuing to pursue a deal for Southampton defender Matt Targett and according to claims from the Mirror, the Whites have made an improved bid for the left-back.
Targett spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage and played an instrumental role as they secured promotion to the Premier League via the Championship play-offs.
It was reported earlier on this summer that Fulham had seen a bid worth £10 million rejected by Saints, with the club keen to retain their academy graduate's services.
If we continue to improve our bids, we might get him for free.
Maybe it's a typo as I thought we had a 4m bid turned down earlier? Not sure if anyone's followed him but he looks like hes bulked up a bit too for next season. Fingers crossed but I'm still dubious he'll come due to the Bertrand situation.
Also, I hoenstly can't believe Liverpool are buying a keeper for nearly 70m....seems mental to me!
https://twitter.com/golazoargentino/status/1019618378036793344
Barrios tweet.
Quote from: The Rock on July 18, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
https://twitter.com/golazoargentino/status/1019618378036793344
Barrios tweet.
hmm, don't get me wrong, I do love a big money signing. But if true, why does it always seem like we strengthen our strongest areas, whilst we always seem to over look our obvious weakness
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Quote from: The Rock on July 18, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
https://twitter.com/golazoargentino/status/1019618378036793344
Barrios tweet.
hmm, don't get me wrong, I do love a big money signing. But if true, why does it always seem like we strengthen our strongest areas, whilst we always seem to over look our obvious weakness
I have to assume that the management are complete blithering idiots, and that they'll have reinforcements for the weak positions coming in as well.
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2018, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2018, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 18, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
https://twitter.com/golazoargentino/status/1019618378036793344
Barrios tweet.
hmm, don't get me wrong, I do love a big money signing. But if true, why does it always seem like we strengthen our strongest areas, whilst we always seem to over look our obvious weakness
I have to assume that the management are complete blithering idiots, and that they'll have reinforcements for the weak positions coming in as well.
but of the same quality? I'm pretty sure everyone could have lived with keeping our midfield trio in tact, and wouldn't we have all I've liked us to go out and spend best part of 40 million on two center backs?
For gods sake we need a very good (preferably young ) centreback - it will cost us big but not as much as relegation ! Without a top centre forward, centreback and keeper you can have the best midfield in the world but you won't score many and you will concede a load more. It was ever thus.
Quote from: HV71 on July 18, 2018, 06:22:12 PM
For gods sake we need a very good (preferably young ) centreback - it will cost us big but not as much as relegation ! Without a top centre forward, centreback and keeper you can have the best midfield in the world but you won't score many and you will concede a load more. It was ever thus.
What we need is someone with a bit of recovery pace at centre back. Don't get me wrong, I love Ream, he was almost Bobby Moore like last season, but our one big vulnerability with our high line is if they get in behind us, we don't have the recovery pace to get back at them. We suffered for it at times in the Championship, so God knows how much we will be in trouble in the PL. We can't rely on the fullbacks because they can often be too high up the pitch to be able to make a difference. It has to be at CB.
Being linked with David Lopez from Espanyol now, so there's the Centre-Back.
Quote from: General on July 18, 2018, 05:23:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Seeing a few things on Twitter saying we're in for Wilmar Barrios.
Quite a few sources too.
Barrios, Mitrovic, Malcom, Musacchio, Fabri and Augustinsson on top of Seri and Le Marchand would be quite a summer.
Although where would we fit all the talent?
GK - Fabri
LB Augustinsson
CB - le marchand
CB - Musacchio
RB - christie
DM barrios
Cm Seri
Cm cairney
Lw - sesessegnon
RW - malcom
St - Mitrovic
That'd be quite the sight for sore eyes.
So Ream doesn't get a start? The new guy played left back most of last season. Is the general consensus that ream will be dropped? I'd be very upset if our player of the season didn't at least get a chance to start next season
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2018, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 18, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
https://twitter.com/golazoargentino/status/1019618378036793344
Barrios tweet.
hmm, don't get me wrong, I do love a big money signing. But if true, why does it always seem like we strengthen our strongest areas, whilst we always seem to over look our obvious weakness
I have to assume that the management are complete blithering idiots, and that they'll have reinforcements for the weak positions coming in as well.
but of the same quality? I'm pretty sure everyone could have lived with keeping our midfield trio in tact, and wouldn't we have all I've liked us to go out and spend best part of 40 million on two center backs?
We would get taken apart in the Prem if Johansen and McDonald were every-match starters. We may have holes elsewhere, but ostensibly upgrading both of them would be a big plus, and creates a ton of quality depth in vital central positions. I'm 1000% sure the club knows it needs a striker (or two?), a RCB, a LB and a GK ... which is why you see rumors attached to us for all of those positions (with Mitro being assumed to be happening)
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 18, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
So Ream doesn't get a start? The new guy played left back most of last season. Is the general consensus that ream will be dropped? I'd be very upset if our player of the season didn't at least get a chance to start next season
19 apps at CB, 15 at LB. He is a CB that can play LB, not primarily a LB as you seem to be implying.
Ream plays LB at times as well. He had 30 appearances at LB the season we signed him, which is 3 more than Maxime Le Marchand has played there ever.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
Being linked with David Lopez from Espanyol now, so there's the Centre-Back.
He's a DM isn't he? Unless I have the wrong player.
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 18, 2018, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
Being linked with David Lopez from Espanyol now, so there's the Centre-Back.
He's a DM isn't he? Unless I have the wrong player.
He was at Napoli. Played Centre-Back for Espanyol. Think it was Quique Sanchez Flores who converted him.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 18, 2018, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
Being linked with David Lopez from Espanyol now, so there's the Centre-Back.
He's a DM isn't he? Unless I have the wrong player.
He was at Napoli. Played Centre-Back for Espanyol. Think it was Quique Sanchez Flores who converted him.
The only David Lopez on the Espanyol website is listed as a midfielder.
Quote from: Tabby on July 18, 2018, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 18, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
So Ream doesn't get a start? The new guy played left back most of last season. Is the general consensus that ream will be dropped? I'd be very upset if our player of the season didn't at least get a chance to start next season
19 apps at CB, 15 at LB. He is a CB that can play LB, not primarily a LB as you seem to be implying.
Ream plays LB at times as well. He had 30 appearances at LB the season we signed him, which is 3 more than Maxime Le Marchand has played there ever.
Thank you for doing the research. Neither fits the style of wing back we require so would you play Ream or drop him? That was the point of my post. Ream had played dcm before but don't hear us saying we don't need back up for kmac because we have ream or that ream is in contention for lb next season. I'm not trying to be assy as everything you have said is spot on, just not really addressing the point I tried to make (failed attempt I give you)
According to Turkish source Aspor, Fulham and Besiktas have reached an agreement at 6m Euros for Fabri.
And we've apparently had a bid instantly rejected for David Lopez. Espanyol demanding his buy out clause which is apparently €40m(!).
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/18/primera/1531937475_349003.html#?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 18, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 18, 2018, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
Being linked with David Lopez from Espanyol now, so there's the Centre-Back.
He's a DM isn't he? Unless I have the wrong player.
He was at Napoli. Played Centre-Back for Espanyol. Think it was Quique Sanchez Flores who converted him.
The only David Lopez on the Espanyol website is listed as a midfielder.
Over 60 appearances at CB over the last two season, so it is a bit odd that he is listed as a midfielder on their site.
Is there anyone left who we aren't being rumoured with.😵
Dean Jones has just tweeted that we're getting Mitro at the £20m we wanted to pay for him and that a deal is close to completion.
Also not sure if anyone has posted this but we've agreed a €6m fee with Besiktas for Fabricio
I sense this thread is running out of ideas, time & conviction. I guess I'm waiting for the last week of high activity & grabbing folk from failed transfer arrangements.
Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
36m36 minutes ago
Looking like Fulham will get Mitrovic at the £20m fee they were pushing for. Deal not far away now
Quote from: twang on July 18, 2018, 07:20:15 PM
According to Turkish source Aspor, Fulham and Besiktas have reached an agreement at 6m Euros for Fabri.
... but other Turkish sites are claiming that Fulham returned with a €5m offer and that the negotiations are continuing.
http://haber1903.com/n-8785-fulham-fabri-transferi-icin-israrci-fiyat-artti.html
Quote from: mkras99 on July 18, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
36m36 minutes ago
Looking like Fulham will get Mitrovic at the £20m fee they were pushing for. Deal not far away now
Dean Jones BR...What's the br for British Rail.😊
This week's been a desert for signings!
Quote from: twang on July 18, 2018, 08:31:12 PM
Quote from: twang on July 18, 2018, 07:20:15 PM
According to Turkish source Aspor, Fulham and Besiktas have reached an agreement at 6m Euros for Fabri.
... but other Turkish sites are claiming that Fulham returned with a €5m offer and that the negotiations are continuing.
http://haber1903.com/n-8785-fulham-fabri-transferi-icin-israrci-fiyat-artti.html
I think might be a rehash of what was going on a couple of days ago, I saw other reports saying the same thing at the time
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 18, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
36m36 minutes ago
Looking like Fulham will get Mitrovic at the £20m fee they were pushing for. Deal not far away now
Dean Jones BR...What's the br for British Rail.😊
Bullsh1t rendered?
Quote from: Jem on July 18, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 18, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
36m36 minutes ago
Looking like Fulham will get Mitrovic at the £20m fee they were pushing for. Deal not far away now
Dean Jones BR...What's the br for British Rail.😊
Bullsh1t rendered?
lol
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 07:49:20 PM
Is there anyone left who we aren't being rumoured with.😵
Jason Koumas, Carlton Cole and David Bentley.
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 08:48:23 PM
Quote from: Jem on July 18, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 18, 2018, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 18, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
36m36 minutes ago
Looking like Fulham will get Mitrovic at the £20m fee they were pushing for. Deal not far away now
Dean Jones BR...What's the br for British Rail.😊
Bullsh1t rendered?
lol
It's Bleacher Report, but Dean is also a Fulham fan so even though he's a journo, he tends to not tweet about Fulham stuff unless it's bang on and he's usually as accurate as the things he tweets so I tend to take his word.
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
If we signed those three I'd be over the moon
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Quote from: Deeping_white on July 18, 2018, 08:13:00 PM
Dean Jones has just tweeted that we're getting Mitro at the £20m we wanted to pay for him and that a deal is close to completion.
We have been reading similar things for a while now, will this prove to be right, if we keep on saying it I guess some one may hit the jackpot.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 18, 2018, 08:41:29 PM
This week's been a desert for signings!
I am waiting for that Oasis to turn up.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 18, 2018, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 18, 2018, 08:41:29 PM
This week's been a desert for signings!
I waiting for that Oasis to turn up.
U2?
You will have to Take That
And then one someone comes in, I'll have to ask myself Who?
Let's hope they don't sink like a Led Zeppelin
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Quote from: filham on July 18, 2018, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 18, 2018, 08:13:00 PM
Dean Jones has just tweeted that we're getting Mitro at the £20m we wanted to pay for him and that a deal is close to completion.
We have been reading similar things for a while now, will this prove to be right, if we keep on saying it I guess some one may hit the jackpot.
Yeah but he's never mentioned the specifics, plus as I understand it from a few people, the Mitro deal is indeed done. In the end Newcastle caved as they want Rondon but they don't have £16m for him so dealt with us so they could buy someone and keep Rafa happy.
But it just could be our stairway to heaven
My face is a Deep Purple, and I am waiting for the ricochet.
Mitro deal held up over the fee. Newcastle wanted £20m, we offered £15m, then £18m and now just matched the £20m they wanted. All done. Happy days!
Nothing lost timewise if he's been on holiday.
Don't have a problem with how we've handled the Mitrovic stuff. Think it's 3 weeks today since Serbia went out, so it's not like he'd have been deep into a Pre-Season with us. No issue with us trying to haggle in the mean time given Newcastle have to sell to buy because of Ashley.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:41:16 PM
My face is a Deep Purple, and I am waiting for the ricochet.
Mine is a King Crimson
Although there is a drought In A Garden De Vida baby
Woolly - sweet post....is it a child's song in time ?
Quote from: Baszab on July 18, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
Woolly - sweet post....is it a child's song in time ?
Very good Bazab, I like it.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 18, 2018, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:41:16 PM
My face is a Deep Purple, and I am waiting for the ricochet.
Mine is a King Crimson
Although there is a drought In A Garden De Vida baby
Excellent, Those were the days.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 18, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: General on July 18, 2018, 05:23:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Seeing a few things on Twitter saying we're in for Wilmar Barrios.
Quite a few sources too.
Barrios, Mitrovic, Malcom, Musacchio, Fabri and Augustinsson on top of Seri and Le Marchand would be quite a summer.
Although where would we fit all the talent?
GK - Fabri
LB Augustinsson
CB - le marchand
CB - Musacchio
RB - christie
DM barrios
Cm Seri
Cm cairney
Lw - sesessegnon
RW - malcom
St - Mitrovic
That'd be quite the sight for sore eyes.
So Ream doesn't get a start? The new guy played left back most of last season. Is the general consensus that ream will be dropped? I'd be very upset if our player of the season didn't at least get a chance to start next season
Plus one.... Ream developed into a very reliable defender after a poor start. He earned Fulham points with his performances. One of a few players that deserves a starting role!
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeam X
Quote from: David I on July 18, 2018, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 18, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: General on July 18, 2018, 05:23:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Seeing a few things on Twitter saying we're in for Wilmar Barrios.
Quite a few sources too.
Barrios, Mitrovic, Malcom, Musacchio, Fabri and Augustinsson on top of Seri and Le Marchand would be quite a summer.
Although where would we fit all the talent?
GK - Fabri
LB Augustinsson
CB - le marchand
CB - Musacchio
RB - christie
DM barrios
Cm Seri
Cm cairney
Lw - sesessegnon
RW - malcom
St - Mitrovic
That'd be quite the sight for sore eyes.
So Ream doesn't get a start? The new guy played left back most of last season. Is the general consensus that ream will be dropped? I'd be very upset if our player of the season didn't at least get a chance to start next season
Plus one.... Ream developed into a very reliable defender after a poor start. He earned Fulham points with his performances. One of a few players that deserves a starting role!
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeam X
He's welcome to start if it matters that much to you and in many ways he has deserved it. That said though I personally believe that it's a matter of time until he's found wanting when playing against a higher calibre of player and believe let marchand is a more natural defender at this level.. and having seen videos of Musacchio I know for sure he's a better quality defender.
It may not be the subjective and sensitive answer everyone wants to hear but objectively if I look at ream I think up against the likes of firmino, jesus, sterling, hazard, kane, Zaha etc etc he will be found wanting.. moreso than the other two.
That being said though we could play with three CB'S with Musacchio, Le Marchand nd ream all playing together.. I just didn't think with the squad I took into consideration it'd be the best use of the players..
Wouldn't hold your breath on Musacchio anymore. Bonucci's handed in a transfer request because of the owner/FFP issues, and Musacchio was signed to start for them last season before the Bonucci deal fell into Milan's lap.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 18, 2018, 11:51:41 PM
Wouldn't hold your breath on Musacchio anymore. Bonucci's handed in a transfer request because of the owner/FFP issues, and Musacchio was signed to start for them last season before the Bonucci deal fell into Milan's lap.
We've been linked with a few other CB'S too.. his presence is just in keeping with what seems to be the club's desire to bring in another CB...
Skysports reporting on Kevin Mbabu as well. Read from somewhere that Newcastle fans really rate him and can't understand why Rafa let him go in the first place.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/11440402/fulham-keen-on-young-boys-defender-kevin-mbabu-face-competition-from-basel
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 12:33:08 AM
How many players does captain Tom Cairney want to see?
"Hopefully, as many as we can get through the door because you need squads in this league as everyone knows. We'll just keep getting fit and hope that the bodies will keep coming in."
I'm failing to see your point - because he doesn't say !!
I don't suppose the club or even SJ are going to say either because as with Mitro - if everyone knows your plan - the price goes UP
Mitro to Tony-"signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours."
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Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
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Looking like Fulham will get Mitrovic at the £20m fee they were pushing for. Deal not far away now
Dean Jones BR...What's the br for British Rail.😊
Bullsh1t rendered?
lol
It's Bleacher Report, but Dean is also a Fulham fan so even though he's a journo, he tends to not tweet about Fulham stuff unless it's bang on and he's usually as accurate as the things he tweets so I tend to take his word.
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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Anyone seen Fabri play? He is likely to be automatic first choice?
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 19, 2018, 09:38:23 AM
Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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does that mean Betts back as no2?
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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Half paid now, the other half in three and six months time and a £1,6m contract annually for Fabri (divided by 52 = about £30k a week) apparently.
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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does that mean Betts back as no2?
I'd say so.
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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does that mean Betts back as no2?
I'd say so.
It means Betts will have to continue to up his game to earn his place in a competitive squad. I have full faith in him but if he does drop to no.2 it'll only be because hes up against a better keeper who he can learn from.
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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does that mean Betts back as no2?
I think so - he is apparently the number 1 target of our GK coach who used to coach Fabri. The Besikatas fans will be absolutely gutted if he goes - I saw a poll saying 78% want him to stay. Then there are some great quotes on twitter from their fans saying €6m only buys us one of Fabri's legs. They really, really rate him - very excited about this one
According to AS, Fulham will raise their offer for David Lopez from €15m to €20m.
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/19/primera/1531993836_635784.html
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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does that mean Betts back as no2?
I think so - he is apparently the number 1 target of our GK coach who used to coach Fabri. The Besikatas fans will be absolutely gutted if he goes - I saw a poll saying 78% want him to stay. Then there are some great quotes on twitter from their fans saying €6m only buys us one of Fabri's legs. They really, really rate him - very excited about this one
quality keeper alright had a look at his career history so Betts has proved his quality but will be able to gain and learn from him.
Lopez is a converted CB right? Is he good? (I assume so for 20m....)?
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Quite a few tweets saying Fabri is done. 3 year deal 6 million
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does that mean Betts back as no2?
I think so - he is apparently the number 1 target of our GK coach who used to coach Fabri. The Besikatas fans will be absolutely gutted if he goes - I saw a poll saying 78% want him to stay. Then there are some great quotes on twitter from their fans saying €6m only buys us one of Fabri's legs. They really, really rate him - very excited about this one
quality keeper alright had a look at his career history so Betts has proved his quality but will be able to gain and learn from him.
His highlights reel on YouTube also suggest he's exceptionally good at getting across his goal and pulling off top saves. Don't know what he'd be like when it comes to commanding box/area but some of the saves he pulled off defy gravity in some instances.. would be a very solid acquisition.
Are we seeing Lopez as a CB or a wing back? Don't know much about him.
Quote from: Ordar on July 19, 2018, 11:30:59 AM
Lopez is a converted CB right? Is he good? (I assume so for 20m....)?
Converted from CM to CB.
Various tweets and articles say the Hertha Berlin manager has stated that they would accept offers from a Premier League club in the region of 25 million euros for Plattenhardt - would seem foolish for Fulham to not at least put an offer in for the player ... Fabri, Mitrovic and Plattenhardt secured within a week would put us in a much stronger position leading into a hopefully busy final two weeks of transfer negotiations IMO
Quote from: Ordar on July 19, 2018, 11:30:59 AM
Lopez is a converted CB right? Is he good? (I assume so for 20m....)?
Something to add on Lopez that I haven't seen on here is that he is apparently unhappy with Espanyol over unkept promises which could work on our favour...???
Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
Are we seeing Lopez as a CB or a wing back? Don't know much about him.
He would probably starts alongside Ream or Le Marchand at CB and be a cover for Macca at DMC. He has been playing a holding midfielder for Espanyol and Napoli until Quique Sanchez Flores converted him to centre-back 2 years ago when he came back to Espanyol... He would fit a mould of ball-playing CB Joka likes to play with.
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Are we seeing Lopez as a CB or a wing back? Don't know much about him.
He would probably starts alongside Ream or Le Marchand at CB and be a cover for Macca at DMC. He has been playing a holding midfielder for Espanyol and Napoli until Quique Sanchez Flores converted him to centre-back 2 years ago when he came back to Espanyol... He would fit a mould of ball-playing CB Joka likes to play with.
29 in October, I think we're using him to flush someone else out, especially after what I heard yesterday
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Are we seeing Lopez as a CB or a wing back? Don't know much about him.
He would probably starts alongside Ream or Le Marchand at CB and be a cover for Macca at DMC. He has been playing a holding midfielder for Espanyol and Napoli until Quique Sanchez Flores converted him to centre-back 2 years ago when he came back to Espanyol... He would fit a mould of ball-playing CB Joka likes to play with.
29 in October, I think we're using him to flush someone else out, especially after what I heard yesterday
Who would that be?
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Quote from: Ordar on July 19, 2018, 11:30:59 AM
Lopez is a converted CB right? Is he good? (I assume so for 20m....)?
Something to add on Lopez that I haven't seen on here is that he is apparently unhappy with Espanyol over unkept promises which could work on our favour...???
Espanyol (my second team) are in a bit of a shambles currently. They overspent, particularly on wages, last season and greatly underperformed, spending 80% of the season just outside the relegation places. Manager Flores declined the Stoke job, preferring to stay in the knowledge he'd soon get the push and a pay-off. They've just sold arguably the best player (Gerard Moreno) for 20M (in real terms 40M but Espanyol only owned 50%) and are clearly looking to raise finance.
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Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
Are we seeing Lopez as a CB or a wing back? Don't know much about him.
He would probably starts alongside Ream or Le Marchand at CB and be a cover for Macca at DMC. He has been playing a holding midfielder for Espanyol and Napoli until Quique Sanchez Flores converted him to centre-back 2 years ago when he came back to Espanyol... He would fit a mould of ball-playing CB Joka likes to play with.
Thanks that's very helpful. Sounds like a sensible signing.
Quote from: twang on July 18, 2018, 07:22:47 PM
And we've apparently had a bid instantly rejected for David Lopez. Espanyol demanding his buy out clause which is apparently €40m(!).
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/18/primera/1531937475_349003.html#?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link
£40m buyout clause sounds a tad high for a 28 yr old CB to me.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
I'd be hugely surprised if we went in for Mawson now after getting Le Marchand as he's another left footer
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Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
I'd be hugely surprised if we went in for Mawson now after getting Le Marchand as he's another left footer
Mawson is right footed.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
I'd be hugely surprised if we went in for Mawson now after getting Le Marchand as he's another left footer
Mawson is right footed.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfie-mawson/profil/spieler/287431
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
I'd be hugely surprised if we went in for Mawson now after getting Le Marchand as he's another left footer
Mawson is right footed.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfie-mawson/profil/spieler/287431
"He talks at length about his thirst for knowledge and desire to improve, explaining that he once played an entire reserve game for Brentford using only his
weaker left foot..."
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/12/alfie-mawson-england-under-21s-euros-swansea
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Quote from: Count Flapula on July 19, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
I'd be hugely surprised if we went in for Mawson now after getting Le Marchand as he's another left footer
Mawson is right footed.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfie-mawson/profil/spieler/287431
"He talks at length about his thirst for knowledge and desire to improve, explaining that he once played an entire reserve game for Brentford using only his weaker left foot..."
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/12/alfie-mawson-england-under-21s-euros-swansea
Nice - I stand corrected and in that case sign him up!
Just looked at some clips of him and he looks pretty comfortable with both feet, I honestly believe he would be an excellent signing (so probably won't happen!)
Quote from: twang on July 19, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on July 19, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 19, 2018, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on July 19, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Mitro is done 100%. Announced tomorrow or Friday.
Yes, my Intelligence and Communications Unit, confirms that is affirmative about Mitro, which is splendid news.
Do not be surprised if we go back in for Alfie Mawson with a firm bid, and the Malcolm situation is far from dead in the water.
So stand by for some action.
I'd be hugely surprised if we went in for Mawson now after getting Le Marchand as he's another left footer
Mawson is right footed.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfie-mawson/profil/spieler/287431
"He talks at length about his thirst for knowledge and desire to improve, explaining that he once played an entire reserve game for Brentford using only his weaker left foot..."
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/12/alfie-mawson-england-under-21s-euros-swansea
Sounds like a nice feller to me.
Sign him up.
8-)
Mawson is a Chelsea fan. Could he be a trojan horse if we sign him? Or perhaps the next scapegoat now we've sold Button... 086.gif
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
For me , he is the best fit. He is young - seems to have the right attitude and very importantly has Premier League experience. He would hit the ground running . I would imagine that he will only improve in time as will his value.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/2872190/fulham-and-leicester-join-everton-bournemouth-and-huddersfield-in-race-for-20m-germany-left-back-marvin-plattenhardt/
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
There's literally no logic to the supposed move. Newcastle need to sell to buy, and Fenerbahce are supposedly trying to loan him. You could say they're doing it because they don't want to strengthen a rival, but it'd be cutting off the nose to spite the face to sacrifice transfer funds in order to do so.
Bakayoko anyone? I'm fairly sure Chelsea would take a loss on him as he had a pretty naff year last season, but I still think there might be a decent player in there in the right system and Chelsea want shot of him, if we could get him playing how he did for Monaco then that would would be some player in our midfield trio.
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Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
There's literally no logic to the supposed move. Newcastle need to sell to buy, and Fenerbahce are supposedly trying to loan him. You could say they're doing it because they don't want to strengthen a rival, but it'd be cutting off the nose to spite the face to sacrifice transfer funds in order to do so.
Also, Mitro would have to agree to that move. Unless one of the big boys comes in with an offer I think he's pretty set on a move back to Jokanovic and Fulham.
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 02:26:08 PM
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Mitro deal held up over the fee. Newcastle wanted £20m, we offered £15m, then £18m and now just matched the £20m they wanted. All done. Happy days!
If Fener steal in at the last minute, you have to ask wtf we didn't just offer £20m to start with and get the deal done in june
because they'd raise it to 22m, 25m etc...
Maybe controversial, but if a deal isn't done by Saturday I would walk away from Mitro.
Yes he did a great job for us, but was it the player or the type of player? I have no doubt that if we had a player (any other)of his calibre and style of play we would have had the same return. (don't get me wrong I looooooove him and what he did for us)
Is there a similar type of player that we can get for £20/£25M?
With all our eggs in one basket we might come out short otherwise so close to the start of the season
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Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: APS on July 18, 2018, 09:45:49 PM
Mitro deal held up over the fee. Newcastle wanted £20m, we offered £15m, then £18m and now just matched the £20m they wanted. All done. Happy days!
If Fener steal in at the last minute, you have to ask wtf we didn't just offer £20m to start with and get the deal done in june
because they'd raise it to 22m, 25m etc...
I don't think so. based on the fact Newcastle are openly doing a money in for money out policy confirmed by Rafa, I think giving the 20m from the off would of clinched him. Not ITK on it or anything, just my gut feeling based on the comments from rafa etc.
So none of us sure of mitro sighning,it can only be the transfer committee.
Quote from: Jeroen on July 19, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Maybe controversial, but if a deal isn't done by Saturday I would walk away from Mitro.
Yes he did a great job for us, but was it the player or the type of player? I have no doubt that if we had a player (any other)of his calibre and style of play we would have had the same return. (don't get me wrong I looooooove him and what he did for us)
Is there a similar type of player that we can get for £20/£25M?
With all our eggs in one basket we might come out short otherwise so close to the start of the season
There'd be alternatives out there, probably for cheaper like Rondon at 16m, but I think Jokanovic wants him in and we know for a fact he suits us so he's the closest thing to a "sure thing". There's always the possibility that we have more money for a Striker than you'd think and we try and go in for another big name like Seri such as Willian Jose or someone along those lines.
Jack Wilshere had apparently signed for Galatasaray a week before signing for West Ham having not ever talked to them. Don't make too much out of Turkish media stuff, they make up a lot of things.
Quote from: Tabby on July 19, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
Jack Wilshere had apparently signed for Galatasaray a week before signing for West Ham having not ever talked to them. Don't make too much out of Turkish media stuff, they make up a lot of things.
According to Twitter Mitro should be confirmed today or tomorrow.
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 03:26:22 PM
Exactly
Even with someone like Mike Ashley, this is a multi-million pound transaction, not someone selling a used Ford Escort, and you expect a certain level of sophistication
If you ask someone's price, they say £20m, you say done, then they say, oh actually now it's £22m... reallly?
I'm not saying it never happens, you probably get the odd tw@t like Daniel Levy, but people very quickly stop taking those types seriously and declining to do business with them
In this case it sounds like Newcastle have given us a price and stuck to it, and we just look silly by messing around for two months fishing for a 5% discount (if indeed that's what's happened)
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
I would also expect us to have a back up plan
P.S. Mike Ashley does not do sophistication - he is a market trader who has made a fortune for himself and his shareholders
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
You sound like a WUM - went on news sites and twitter and nothing of the sort.. in fact the opposite. @footiewriter a 'multi award nominated football transfer analyst/journalist' with near to 160k followers tweeted 20 mins ago saying fulham are close to confirming the deal of Mitro to us.
Quote from: General on July 19, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
You sound like a WUM - went on news sites and twitter and nothing of the sort.. in fact the opposite. @footiewriter a 'multi award nominated football transfer analyst/journalist' with near to 160k followers tweeted 20 mins ago saying fulham are close to confirming the deal of Mitro to us.
I saw the same thing earlier about the Fenerbache loan
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Quote from: General on July 19, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
You sound like a WUM - went on news sites and twitter and nothing of the sort.. in fact the opposite. @footiewriter a 'multi award nominated football transfer analyst/journalist' with near to 160k followers tweeted 20 mins ago saying fulham are close to confirming the deal of Mitro to us.
I saw the same thing earlier about the Fenerbache loan
The only people reporting it are HITC who write some actual garbage anyway. As the point was made by Tabby, Turkish media do write some crap a la Wilshire not so long ago so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. All the journo's who actually know stuff say he's going to Fulham so I think this Fenerbahce thing is a non starter
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Quote from: General on July 19, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
You sound like a WUM - went on news sites and twitter and nothing of the sort.. in fact the opposite. @footiewriter a 'multi award nominated football transfer analyst/journalist' with near to 160k followers tweeted 20 mins ago saying fulham are close to confirming the deal of Mitro to us.
I saw the same thing earlier about the Fenerbache loan
The only people reporting it are HITC who write some actual garbage anyway. As the point was made by Tabby, Turkish media do write some crap a la Wilshire not so long ago so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. All the journo's who actually know stuff say he's going to Fulham so I think this Fenerbahce thing is a non starter
Totally agree... just saying it was relaying something that was a genuine tweet and not someone trying to be a WUM.
Talkadoodle radio saying he's on his way to Turkey.
They most probably read HITC.😵
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
Correct.
If we get him, absolutely no difference. If we don't.....obvious difference. I also don't listen to anything talksport says about Fulham. They'll take whatever negative position they can on us, especially the coverage prior to championship final.
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
agree, and we will only have ourselves to blame.
Let's just hope we secure his registration.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
agree, and we will only have ourselves to blame.
Let's just hope we secure his registration.
Hope springs eternal.
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
There was little activity before the end on the world cup and clubs are not going to sell a TOP player unless they have a replacement either on board or lined up. We could have done it the Cardiff way and trawled the Championship for it's best players but if we are going to sign some higher standard players we have to wait
I just know your going to quote Wolves but most of those were completing deals they'd arranged when they signed the players on loan for the Championship - they performed well in the Championship but are they really going to be upto premier league standard? Time will tell
We're looking for starters - how many of our former loan players would you start against Palace - Mitro but who else?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
If we get him, absolutely no difference. If we don't.....obvious difference. I also don't listen to anything talksport says about Fulham. They'll take whatever negative position they can on us, especially the coverage prior to championship final.
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
If we get him, absolutely no difference. If we don't.....obvious difference. I also don't listen to anything talksport says about Fulham. They'll take whatever negative position they can on us, especially the coverage prior to championship final.
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
I'm sure a load of mediocre clubs are interested in our players...... ;p
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
If we get him, absolutely no difference. If we don't.....obvious difference. I also don't listen to anything talksport says about Fulham. They'll take whatever negative position they can on us, especially the coverage prior to championship final.
Yes I go along with what you say, they are a load of chumps, and when they run out of nonsense to say, they find more nonsense to talk about.
Sometimes when I listen to some of them, not all are that poor.
They know no more than we do, only really interested in The big boys, they may follow the odd smaller team as a token, but I feel like throwing the radio out of the window when certain members of their staff are on.
I have been tempted to call them, but I don't think they could keep up with my intellect.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
agree, and we will only have ourselves to blame.
Let's just hope we secure his registration.
Hope springs eternal.
You mentioning springs remind me that I need a new bed. My current one has had enough of me.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
I'm sure a load of mediocre clubs are interested in our players...... ;p
They got us out of the Championship - so why not have a fishing trip to Motspur Park - they might do the another Championship club
We all love the players we had last season BUT - will they keep us in the Premier League?
I have a feeling that there will be some broken hearts before the end of this window
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
I'm sure a load of mediocre clubs are interested in our players...... ;p
They got us out of the Championship - so why not have a fishing trip to Motspur Park - they might do the another Championship club
We all love the players we had last season BUT - will they keep us in the Premier League?
I have a feeling that there will be some broken hearts before the end of this window
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
agree, and we will only have ourselves to blame.
Let's just hope we secure his registration.
Hope springs eternal.
You mentioning springs remind me that I need a new bed. My current one has had enough of me.
Don't forget the flask of Cocoa.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
I'm sure a load of mediocre clubs are interested in our players...... ;p
They got us out of the Championship - so why not have a fishing trip to Motspur Park - they might do the another Championship club
We all love the players we had last season BUT - will they keep us in the Premier League?
I have a feeling that there will be some broken hearts before the end of this window
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
Totally agree and they also deserve the chance to show what they can do....
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
Totally agree and they also deserve the chance to show what they can do....
I live in hope that they are and if everyone thinks that, why is anyone on this board worried about our signing new players at all?
I think we're going to be in for a rude awakening and we need to call up some new troops to make sure we're not caught short
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 04:34:20 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
I live in hope that they are and if everyone thinks that, why is anyone on this board worried about our signing new players at all?
I think we're going to be in for a rude awakening and we need to call up some new troops to make sure we're not caught short
because it can't be forgotten that our squad is 6-7 players lighter than last season already and key players that joined in Jan, along with Freds, aren't around currently. Its a slippery slope. We DO need players but our current ones shouldn't be overlooked.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 19, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
What difference does it make if he signs now or in June he would still not be here until next week
It makes a difference if we get gazumped by Fener at the last minute.
For what it's worth I don't believe the Fener rumours (in HITC as noted above)
But that is the risk you take by leaving things up in the air for two months
agree, and we will only have ourselves to blame.
Let's just hope we secure his registration.
Hope springs eternal.
You mentioning springs remind me that I need a new bed. My current one has had enough of me.
Don't forget the flask of Cocoa.
She will be laying next to me.
By the way, I use to have an African Grey Parrot called Cocoa, who I picked up on a Cocoa plantation by the Skeleton Coast in East Africa when I was a Pirate.
Cocoa I was told was about 120 when he passed away.
He told me that he often use to get as sick as a footballer.
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 04:34:20 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
Totally agree and they also deserve the chance to show what they can do....
I live in hope that they are and if everyone thinks that, why is anyone on this board worried about our signing new players at all?
I think we're going to be in for a rude awakening and we need to call up some new troops to make sure we're not caught short
Time is of the essence, and the sands of time are ticking away.
We all feel helpless and some feel hopeless, The silence from the club is deafening, but maybe no news is good news.
We will just have to pace up and down the hall carpet like expectant fathers I suppose.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:35:57 PM
because it can't be forgotten that our squad is 6-7 players lighter than last season already and key players that joined in Jan, along with Freds, aren't around currently. Its a slippery slope. We DO need players but our current ones shouldn't be overlooked.
Presumably a half decent bid will bring back all the loan players, except for Ojo and Target (it is significant that we've resigned none so far)
We signed Christy to replace Fred in January, so in theory the two from Nice would bring us up to full strength.
Not enough I think - we need a lot more quality to stay in the PL - I hope Tony Khan has some aces to play and some gems to bring in before the window closes.
Quote from: Marinelloguthrie on July 19, 2018, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
I'm sure a load of mediocre clubs are interested in our players...... ;p
They got us out of the Championship - so why not have a fishing trip to Motspur Park - they might do the another Championship club
We all love the players we had last season BUT - will they keep us in the Premier League?
I have a feeling that there will be some broken hearts before the end of this window
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
Totally agree and they also deserve the chance to show what they can do....
premier league is is unforgiving ,also a slow start is dangerous getting stuck bottom 3 earlydoors throws pressure on whole club plan budget wise and FFP
From Standard:
"We said earlier that Fulham are making their mark in the transfer market - now they are reportedly lining up a move for Espanyol captain David Lopez.
According to MailOnline, the west London club have made enquiries for the 28-year-old, who reportedly has a buyout clause set at £35 million.
It is believed Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic wants a versatile player in his squad ahead of the new Premier League season and Lopez, formerly of Napoli, can play as a centre-back or defensive midfielder. "
Let's not kid ourselves gents, to have a Premier League Squad that will hold its own, and stand it's Ground, we need 6 to 8 quality players covering key positions, if we do not want to get caught with our trousers down.
trew
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
Let's not kid ourselves gents, to have a Premier League Squad that will hold its own, and stand it's Ground, we need 6 to 8 quality players covering key positions, if we do not want to get caught with our trousers down.
Well we have exactly three weeks today left to get those players
Quote from: spikey norman on July 19, 2018, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
Let's not kid ourselves gents, to have a Premier League Squad that will hold its own, and stand it's Ground, we need 6 to 8 quality players covering key positions, if we do not want to get caught with our trousers down.
Well we have exactly three weeks today left to get those players
and the clock is ticking,tic tac tic toc!!
Quote from: HamsterWheel on July 19, 2018, 04:54:53 PM
From Standard:
"We said earlier that Fulham are making their mark in the transfer market - now they are reportedly lining up a move for Espanyol captain David Lopez.
According to MailOnline, the west London club have made enquiries for the 28-year-old, who reportedly has a buyout clause set at £35 million.
It is believed Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic wants a versatile player in his squad ahead of the new Premier League season and Lopez, formerly of Napoli, can play as a centre-back or defensive midfielder. "
For £35m I would hope he plays in both positions at the same time
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 19, 2018, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on July 19, 2018, 04:54:53 PM
From Standard:
"We said earlier that Fulham are making their mark in the transfer market - now they are reportedly lining up a move for Espanyol captain David Lopez.
According to MailOnline, the west London club have made enquiries for the 28-year-old, who reportedly has a buyout clause set at £35 million.
It is believed Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic wants a versatile player in his squad ahead of the new Premier League season and Lopez, formerly of Napoli, can play as a centre-back or defensive midfielder. "
For £35m I would hope he plays in both positions at the same time
now that would be a trick!!
http://sportwitness.co.uk/yas%C2%ADsi%C2%ADne-bou%C2%ADnou-another-one-fulham-transfer-list-approach-made/
Yassine Bounou – Another one on the Fulham transfer list, approach made
Fulham have been linked with a multitude of goalkeepers this summer and now there's another one to add to the list: Yassine Bounou.
Who?
Bounou, widely known as Bono, plays for Girona. The 27 year old is Morocco's back-up goalkeeper and previously played for Atletico Madrid B and Zaragoza.
Fulham are said to have made an approach for the player, but it's not good news.
Spanish newspaper AS report the Premier League club haven't gone through with making an offer because Bono has told them he's not interested and wants to continue at Girona.
Money can of course change everything in football and Bono has been in talks over a renewal, with his contract ending in June 2019.
Fulham may well try to shake those talks up a bit, if their interest in the player is as real as AS present it.
It would be a strange one for the Spanish newspaper to pluck from thin air so there's likely truth at some level.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 19, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/yas%C2%ADsi%C2%ADne-bou%C2%ADnou-another-one-fulham-transfer-list-approach-made/
Yassine Bounou – Another one on the Fulham transfer list, approach made
Fulham have been linked with a multitude of goalkeepers this summer and now there's another one to add to the list: Yassine Bounou.
Who?
Bounou, widely known as Bono, plays for Girona. The 27 year old is Morocco's back-up goalkeeper and previously played for Atletico Madrid B and Zaragoza.
Fulham are said to have made an approach for the player, but it's not good news.
Spanish newspaper AS report the Premier League club haven't gone through with making an offer because Bono has told them he's not interested and wants to continue at Girona.
Money can of course change everything in football and Bono has been in talks over a renewal, with his contract ending in June 2019.
Fulham may well try to shake those talks up a bit, if their interest in the player is as real as AS present it.
It would be a strange one for the Spanish newspaper to pluck from thin air so there's likely truth at some level.
If this happens, it certainly would be a Beautiful Day
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Quote from: General on July 19, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Mitro on the verge of signing for Fenerbache now being reported 😫
You sound like a WUM - went on news sites and twitter and nothing of the sort.. in fact the opposite. @footiewriter a 'multi award nominated football transfer analyst/journalist' with near to 160k followers tweeted 20 mins ago saying fulham are close to confirming the deal of Mitro to us.
Not trying to find anyone up. Just saying what I read earlier. Hope it is just a load of rubbish and that his arrival is imminent, along with a few more signings before the Palace game.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 19, 2018, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 19, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/yas%C2%ADsi%C2%ADne-bou%C2%ADnou-another-one-fulham-transfer-list-approach-made/
Yassine Bounou – Another one on the Fulham transfer list, approach made
Fulham have been linked with a multitude of goalkeepers this summer and now there's another one to add to the list: Yassine Bounou.
Who?
Bounou, widely known as Bono, plays for Girona. The 27 year old is Morocco's back-up goalkeeper and previously played for Atletico Madrid B and Zaragoza.
Fulham are said to have made an approach for the player, but it's not good news.
Spanish newspaper AS report the Premier League club haven't gone through with making an offer because Bono has told them he's not interested and wants to continue at Girona.
Money can of course change everything in football and Bono has been in talks over a renewal, with his contract ending in June 2019.
Fulham may well try to shake those talks up a bit, if their interest in the player is as real as AS present it.
It would be a strange one for the Spanish newspaper to pluck from thin air so there's likely truth at some level.
If this happens, it certainly would be a Beautiful Day
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http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/19/report-zenit-st-petersburg-close-to-beating-fulham-and-west-ham/
Report: Zenit St Petersburg close to beating Fulham and West Ham to Milan Badelj
According to Tuttomercatoweb, Fulham and West Ham United have been attempting to lure Milan Badelj to London, but he looks set for a move to Zenit St Petersburg.
Both Fulham and West Ham have enjoyed strong summers so far; newly-promoted Fulham tied up a stunning double deal for Nice pair Maxime Le Marchand and Jean Seri, whilst West Ham have brought in seven new signings.
However, the two sides may still be in the market for more new additions, with both teams still needing a holding midfielder each before the start of the Premier League season.
Now, Tuttomercatoweb report that both Fulham and West Ham are keen on Fiorentina midfielder Milan Badelj, with the Croatian World Cup ace available for free.
However, it's also stated that Russian giants Zenit St Petersburg are in pole position for his signature, and hope to pip Fulham, West Ham and AC Milan to his signature.
Badelj, 29, has starred for Fiorentina since a 2014 move from Hamburg, racking up nearly 150 appearances for La Viola whilst also earning more than 40 caps for Croatia.
The holding midfielder featured at the World Cup and scored against Iceland in Croatia's final group game, but played a bit-part role behind Luka Modric, Ivan Rakitic and Marcelo Brozovic, which is understandable.
Now available for free with his Fiorentina contract expiring, Badelj is in demand – but Fulham and West Ham may be set to miss out on their common target
Think back to that really happy time when we were walking away from Wembley with that magnificent victory to dwell on. Is there any one at that time who thought that by now we would not have signed up Mitrovic along with replacements for Federicks and the other key loan players.
Quote from: filham on July 19, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
Think back to that really happy time when we were walking away from Wembley with that magnificent victory to dwell on. Is there any one at that time who thought that by now we would not have signed up Mitrovic along with replacements for Federicks and the other key loan players.
I hoped we would have got out the traps early and wrap up our main targets quickly before pre season was underway and add if needed
Quote from: filham on July 19, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
Think back to that really happy time when we were walking away from Wembley with that magnificent victory to dwell on. Is there any one at that time who thought that by now we would not have signed up Mitrovic along with replacements for Federicks and the other key loan players.
This season never crossed my mind for at least a whole week after wembley. That day was about seeing Fulham win at Wembley with 38000 of us there inc my daughter and enjoying the moment and the glory. Also celebrating one of the best fulham teams playing some of the best football we have seen acheiving on the biggest stage.
Stupidly i forgot that it dont take too long for people to start being negative and trying to put a downer on things because even wuth 3 weeks to go we haven't got ten new players and soent 100million.
This season will take care of itself and i now have trust in the club and absolute trust in Slav. If i even come close to feeling like i did that great day over the next few years i will be a happy man.
Just be pleased that you do not support Villa.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on July 19, 2018, 10:40:10 PM
Just be pleased that you do not support Villa.
Excellent response. People really need to calm down.
Quote from: Marinelloguthrie on July 19, 2018, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 19, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 19, 2018, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 19, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Funny you saying that,they just said Derby are interested in K Mac😁
I'm sure a load of mediocre clubs are interested in our players...... ;p
They got us out of the Championship - so why not have a fishing trip to Motspur Park - they might do the another Championship club
We all love the players we had last season BUT - will they keep us in the Premier League?
I have a feeling that there will be some broken hearts before the end of this window
A lot of our players are good enough for either squad depth or holding places in EPL. Yes we might get some additions in and some of the regulars from last season might find less game time, but we shouldn't forget how well and high a standard the majority of players played at last season. Most if not all are good enough to play EPL in my opinion.
Totally agree and they also deserve the chance to show what they can do....
Agree with FFC.
9 of the 11 who started at Wembley could start against Palace and I would have been comfortable. Just not ALL 9 together. The club need to replace 4-5 starters with the high quality talent that is now available as a Premier League team. It would both strengthen the first 11 and the 18 at the same time by moving some current starting players down the depth chart. One of those 9 is already done.
Fill out the gaps in depth by buying back the loanees that are needed as all seemed to be high character players who can play a role.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 19, 2018, 11:50:16 PM
Quote from: The Rock on July 19, 2018, 11:34:34 PM
Quote from: filham on July 19, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
Think back to that really happy time when we were walking away from Wembley with that magnificent victory to dwell on. Is there any one at that time who thought that by now we would not have signed up Mitrovic along with replacements for Federicks and the other key loan players.
Yes of course. Why would anyone think the Khans wouldn't rape the business for all it's worth! This is an investment for them, not a passion with heart and soul.
I do admit, I thought we'd been in better shape 3 weeks before the season starts.
I'm confident we will sign the right players needed to survive. Don't expect to really battle for top 10.
Hint : Jacksonville Jaguars.
Use of the word "rape" acceptable?
Pillage could be a more suitable description.
Looting or Plundering.
Here we go, the pc brigade are in.
Chill.....it's tongue in cheek.
Take some time to check the quality of many of the PS teams.
Palace
Southampton
Burnley
Cardiff
Wolves ?
Brighton
Huddersfield
Newcastle
Watford
Weast Ham
Leicester ?
Are we that far behind with our current squad ?
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 20, 2018, 01:10:19 AM
Take some time to check the quality of many of the PS teams.
Palace
Southampton
Burnley
Cardiff
Wolves ?
Brighton
Huddersfield
Newcastle
Watford
Weast Ham
Leicester ?
Are we that far behind with our current squad ?
To answer your question, yes we are some way behind 8 of the teams you mention.
Quote from: Riversider on July 20, 2018, 01:36:13 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 20, 2018, 01:10:19 AM
Take some time to check the quality of many of the PS teams.
Palace
Southampton
Burnley
Cardiff
Wolves ?
Brighton
Huddersfield
Newcastle
Watford
Weast Ham
Leicester ?
Are we that far behind with our current squad ?
To answer your question, yes we are some way behind 8 of the teams you mention.
But we only have to finish above three of them!
Aiming for 17th? Love your ambition.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 20, 2018, 08:10:51 AM
Aiming for 17th? Love your ambition.
After the play off match - SK said he was expecting to compete and not just make up the numbers (or words to that effect) - so I'm thinking that there must be some good news to come
Maybe !
Transfers at the end of the window doesn't bother me - SJ will not need to teach them to play football and I'm sure that any half-decent player can understand tactics and will be used to playing in different systems - just need to make sure they are not colour blind at the medical
Subject David Lopez: ideal would be an interesting proposal of Espanyol before Sunday for the player. The club is studying it and has said it will be "exciting". The Fulham already offers 12 million. It could go up to 14. But it will not wait forever. More in
Quique Igiesias from twitter
Quote from: Roberty on July 20, 2018, 08:29:39 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 20, 2018, 08:10:51 AM
Aiming for 17th? Love your ambition.
After the play off match - SK said he was expecting to compete and not just make up the numbers (or words to that effect) - so I'm thinking that there must be some good news to come
Maybe !
Transfers at the end of the window doesn't bother me - SJ will not need to teach them to play football and I'm sure that any half-decent player can understand tactics and will be used to playing in different systems - just need to make sure they are not colour blind at the medical
It's the Cough Drop that worries me.
I'm just happy to be tin the Prem again to be honest.....Fingers crossed for a signing today!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 20, 2018, 09:55:29 AM
I'm just happy to be tin the Prem again to be honest.....Fingers crossed for a signing today!
Famous last words.
General George Armstrong Custer at the Battle of the Little Bighorn 1876.
" where did all these angry Indians come from ".
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 20, 2018, 09:55:29 AM
I'm just happy to be tin the Prem again to be honest.....Fingers crossed for a signing today!
Fridays have long been a fruitful day for Fulham signings. Let's hope the tradition continues...
apparentl if we raise our offer, David Lopez will be accepted
http://sportwitness.co.uk/chen-yansheng-make-decision-fulham-raise-offer-e30m/
Lopez, Mitro and Fabri in the next few days?
Quote from: corbs83 on July 20, 2018, 10:33:46 AM
apparentl if we raise our offer, David Lopez will be accepted
http://sportwitness.co.uk/chen-yansheng-make-decision-fulham-raise-offer-e30m/
Lopez, Mitro and Fabri in the next few days?
30m for a 29 year old - albeit in Euro?
Fulham will apparently scout the pair Juanpe and Portu during Girona's pre season trip to England. Girona won't sell them unless their release clauses are met (Juanpe €10m and Portu €12m).
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/20/primera/1532043046_998286.amp.html?id_externo_rsoc=comp_tw&__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: twang on July 20, 2018, 11:20:28 AM
Fulham will apparently scout the pair Juanpe and Portu during Girona's pre season trip to England. Girona won't sell them unless their release clauses are met (Juanpe €10m and Portu €12m).
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/20/primera/1532043046_998286.amp.html?id_externo_rsoc=comp_tw&__twitter_impression=true
we must be desperate if we are scouting pre season friendlies. You wouldn't want one Fulham player if you sent scouts to our last two friendlies.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2018, 11:47:44 AM
Quote from: twang on July 20, 2018, 11:20:28 AM
Fulham will apparently scout the pair Juanpe and Portu during Girona's pre season trip to England. Girona won't sell them unless their release clauses are met (Juanpe €10m and Portu €12m).
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/20/primera/1532043046_998286.amp.html?id_externo_rsoc=comp_tw&__twitter_impression=true
we must be desperate if we are scouting pre season friendlies. You wouldn't want one Fulham player if you sent scouts to our last two friendlies.
If you were a scout with zero knowledge of spotting young talent, I entirely agree with you
From the highlights, I've actually been impressed with a few of the younger players regardless of the trivial results......
Fabri and Fulham, claim he's learned he'll travel to London soon to complete transfer.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-learned-hes-travelling-complete-fulham-transfer-several-claims-move/
Spurs in for Barrios
Malcom close to Roma move
Yann M'Vila looks set to extend his contract at St Etienne. Too bad, I thought he would be brilliant for us as competition with KMac for a small fee.
https://www.foot-sur7.fr/399009-asse-mercato-mvila-prolongation-tuyaux
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 12:02:11 PM
Fabri and Fulham, claim he's learned he'll travel to London soon to complete transfer.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-learned-hes-travelling-complete-fulham-transfer-several-claims-move/
And they're replacing Fabri with Ospina so i see
Quote from: Riversider on July 20, 2018, 01:36:13 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 20, 2018, 01:10:19 AM
Take some time to check the quality of many of the PS teams.
Palace
Southampton
Burnley
Cardiff
Wolves ?
Brighton
Huddersfield
Newcastle
Watford
Weast Ham
Leicester ?
Are we that far behind with our current squad ?
To answer your question, yes we are some way behind 8 of the teams you mention.
But we haven't finished spending yet and most of them are probably close or reasonably happy with their squads.
All of them are beatable +the occasional 'super-scalp' !
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
I cannot see Fabri scoring many goals either.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
so we're close to their valuation, more than 50% there :022:
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
If they really want €40m for a 29 years old player who they paid €4m just 2 years ago they can do one...
If €20m is not enough then look elsewhere for a new centre-back.
Quote from: river phoenix on July 20, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
If they really want €40m for a 29 years old player who they paid €4m just 2 years ago they can do one...
If €20m is not enough then look elsewhere for a new centre-back.
If we're offering 40m, I'd rather we look for another CB elsewhere that is better and cost way less than that. Not quite making sense to me.
Quote from: Statto on July 20, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 20, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
30m for a 29 year old - albeit in Euro?
The no over-28s rule has clearly been reversed, not sure we're allowed to sign anyone under 27/28 now.
Fabri (nearly 31)
Lopez (nearly 29)
Musacchio (28 next month)
Maxime Le Marchand (nearly 29)
Seri (27)
Cost of that lot today... £60m+
Value in 3 yrs... £0
To be fair, Seri was still only 26 when he signed. :dft011:
£40 mil for a CB. Needs to be world class and a lot younger than 29. No thanks
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 20, 2018, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 20, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
If they really want €40m for a 29 years old player who they paid €4m just 2 years ago they can do one...
If €20m is not enough then look elsewhere for a new centre-back.
If we're offering 40m, I'd rather we look for another CB elsewhere that is better and cost way less than that. Not quite making sense to me.
I dont think they "want" €40m to be exact, I think they're holding out for closer to €30m going from reports I've read, but if we bid €40 then it activates his release clause and they're unable to stop the transfer short of offering him a new contract minus the clause. For that reason it's set so high that a club can't just swoop in and take him, but still €30m seems a bit steep to me, but at least it shows we're trying to recruit a centre half and aren't afraid to pay well for one even if we could probably spend that on someone better as you say.
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 20, 2018, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 20, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
If they really want €40m for a 29 years old player who they paid €4m just 2 years ago they can do one...
If €20m is not enough then look elsewhere for a new centre-back.
If we're offering 40m, I'd rather we look for another CB elsewhere that is better and cost way less than that. Not quite making sense to me.
Especially with the young Mawson still wanting a move. Maybe we want the finished article rather than potential - in someways understandable but aroute that can prove costly to your bank balance in the future.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2018, 01:36:09 PM
I cannot see Fabri scoring many goals either.
Don't be such a pessimist
Quote from: Statto on July 20, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 20, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
30m for a 29 year old - albeit in Euro?
The no over-28s rule has clearly been reversed, not sure we're allowed to sign anyone under 27/28 now.
Fabri (nearly 31)
Lopez (nearly 29)
Musacchio (28 next month)
Maxime Le Marchand (nearly 29)
Seri (27)
Cost of that lot today... £60m+
Value in 3 yrs... £0
A 33-34 year old Keeper could still retain value depending on how well he does. I doubt Seri will be here in 3 years regardless. If we stay up it means he's most likely played well and we've sold him on, and then if we go down he has some sort of release clause in his deal where we probably sell him for what we bought him for.
On the Centre-Back front if we're spending big money I'd like to see us go really ambitious and try and sign someone like Kevin Vogt from Hoffenheim who's pretty much our ideal Centre-Back and he'd add significant height as well.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 20, 2018, 02:36:33 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 20, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 20, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
30m for a 29 year old - albeit in Euro?
The no over-28s rule has clearly been reversed, not sure we're allowed to sign anyone under 27/28 now.
Fabri (nearly 31)
Lopez (nearly 29)
Musacchio (28 next month)
Maxime Le Marchand (nearly 29)
Seri (27)
Cost of that lot today... £60m+
Value in 3 yrs... £0
A 33-34 year old Keeper could still retain value depending on how well he does. I doubt Seri will be here in 3 years regardless. If we stay up it means he's most likely played well and we've sold him on, and then if we go down he has some sort of release clause in his deal where we probably sell him for what we bought him for.
On the Centre-Back front if we're spending big money I'd like to see us go really ambitious and try and sign someone like Kevin Vogt from Hoffenheim who's pretty much our ideal Centre-Back and he'd add significant height as well.
If I'm not mistaken, our legendary Edwin VDS joined us when he was 31. Gave us 4 spectacular years before becoming a legend at MU.
All these players mentioned are proven in there respective leagues so that ticks all the boxes for me
You are right to point out that keepers are different and can hold their value into their thirties. Centre backs though are a different story
Exclusive: Newcastle hours away from sealing £20m player exit, deal could be done today
Fulham are confident of finalising a move for Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic over the weekend and it could even be wrapped up today (Friday), Football Insider sources understands.
Mitrovic has been Fulham's number one target all summer following his successful loan spell at Craven Cottage last season.
A well-placed source has told Football Insider that Fulham and Newcastle have made a breakthrough in their negotiations for Mitrovic with Fulham ready to pay up to £20million to land the striker to seal the deal in the coming hours.
Newcastle are now ready to cash-in on Mitrovic now as they know they need to raise money to fund their own transfer plans with Mitrovic not figuring in Rafa Benitez's plans at St James' Park.
Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic has been determined to bring Mitrovic back to West London and the player himself has snubbed other offers as he wants to return to Fulham.
The Serbian striker scored 12 goals in 20 games for Fulham to help fire them to promotion to the Premier League.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-newcastle-hours-away-from-finalising-20m-sale/
Quote from: river phoenix on July 20, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
If they really want €40m for a 29 years old player who they paid €4m just 2 years ago they can do one...
If €20m is not enough then look elsewhere for a new centre-back.
Like Alfie Mawson who is waiting to be picked up.
Don't we drag things out 😠
Quote from: Statto on July 20, 2018, 03:17:39 PM
At least Mitro is a youngster... although at this rate he'll be about 35 by the time we sign him
Give you that one made me laugh....
Brighton have rejected a bid from Hull for Ollie Norwood. Fulham are still interested in the Northern Ireland international following his loan spell last season.
This one could be slipping away... if we are considering bringing him back...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Brighton have rejected a bid from Hull for Ollie Norwood. Fulham are still interested in the Northern Ireland international following his loan spell last season.
This one could be slipping away... if we are considering bringing him back...
He was good for us but he's a championship player. A good one. But don't expect to see him play for us again. I'd be suprised if he did.
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Brighton have rejected a bid from Hull for Ollie Norwood. Fulham are still interested in the Northern Ireland international following his loan spell last season.
This one could be slipping away... if we are considering bringing him back...
He was good for us but he's a championship player. A good one. But don't expect to see him play for us again. I'd be suprised if he did.
I agree however if you want a player for the last 15 minutes who will not give the ball away and will try his heart out then he is perfect.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Brighton have rejected a bid from Hull for Ollie Norwood. Fulham are still interested in the Northern Ireland international following his loan spell last season.
This one could be slipping away... if we are considering bringing him back...
He was good for us but he's a championship player. A good one. But don't expect to see him play for us again. I'd be suprised if he did.
I agree however if you want a player for the last 15 minutes who will not give the ball away and will try his heart out then he is perfect.
So is Seri, Cairney, Mcdonald, Johansen, Diop, diarra etc..
Quote from: HV71 on July 20, 2018, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 20, 2018, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 20, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Sky now reporting the Fabri deal is close to completion;
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing a deal with Besiktas to sign goalkeeper Fabricio Ramirez, Sky Sports News understands.
Known just as 'Fabri' – the former Spain U20 is wanted to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli following David Button's switch to Brighton.
The Whites are also interested in signing Espanyol attacker David Lopez (he's a centre half but never mind, eh, Sky) but the Catalan club are holding out for his £35.8m release clause.
Reports in Spain claim Fulham have so far offered just £18m for the 28-year-old.
If they really want €40m for a 29 years old player who they paid €4m just 2 years ago they can do one...
If €20m is not enough then look elsewhere for a new centre-back.
If we're offering 40m, I'd rather we look for another CB elsewhere that is better and cost way less than that. Not quite making sense to me.
Especially with the young Mawson still wanting a move. Maybe we want the finished article rather than potential - in someways understandable but aroute that can prove costly to your bank balance in the future.
I thought Mawson was a RB
Alfie Mawson is a 22 year old 6ft 2in English Centre Back. Who has represented England at U21 level.
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Brighton have rejected a bid from Hull for Ollie Norwood. Fulham are still interested in the Northern Ireland international following his loan spell last season.
This one could be slipping away... if we are considering bringing him back...
He was good for us but he's a championship player. A good one. But don't expect to see him play for us again. I'd be suprised if he did.
I agree however if you want a player for the last 15 minutes who will not give the ball away and will try his heart out then he is perfect.
So is Seri, Cairney, Mcdonald, Johansen, Diop, diarra etc..
You are aware Diop and Diarra dont play for the club anymore, right? Im confused by what this post is getting at. Norwood rarely gives the ball away and for a cheap option I dont see why you wouldnt at least consider it...
I'm not suggesting he is 1st choice, not for a minute but for somebody good for sub appearances, cup games and cover who knows the team enabling a DLT or O'Riley to go on loan and get first team minutes then surely its a no brainer as long as he joined knowing that would be his role...
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Alfie Mawson is a 22 year old 6ft 2in English Centre Back. Who has represented England at U21 level.
Not in the U21's any more - he is 24 and Southgate showed no sign of wanting him to take him to Russia
If he is so good why did the Swans get relegated last season and at the moment no one wants to pay their asking price
We wont get any deals done this side of the weekend as the jet cant land at Farnborough due to the air show
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 04:15:05 PM
You are aware Diop and Diarra dont play for the club anymore, right? I'm confused by what this post is getting at. Norwood rarely gives the ball away and for a cheap option I don't see why you wouldnt at least consider it...
I'm not suggesting he is 1st choice, not for a minute but for somebody good for sub appearances, cup games and cover who knows the team enabling a DLT or O'Riley to go on loan and get first team minutes then surely its a no brainer as long as he joined knowing that would be his role...
Value for money should not be confused with cheapness and if he is so good why didn't Brighton want to play him in the PL last season?
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
Brighton have rejected a bid from Hull for Ollie Norwood. Fulham are still interested in the Northern Ireland international following his loan spell last season.
This one could be slipping away... if we are considering bringing him back...
He was good for us but he's a championship player. A good one. But don't expect to see him play for us again. I'd be suprised if he did.
I agree however if you want a player for the last 15 minutes who will not give the ball away and will try his heart out then he is perfect.
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Unfortunately I see him give the ball away far too much. I won't be sorry to see him go. He did a job for us last season, but he's not good enough for PL imo. I believe that's why Brighton let him come to us in the first place.
Quote from: Roberty on July 20, 2018, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Alfie Mawson is a 22 year old 6ft 2in English Centre Back. Who has represented England at U21 level.
Not in the U21's any more - he is 24 and Southgate showed no sign of wanting him to take him to Russia
If he is so good why did the Swans get relegated last season and at the moment no one wants to pay their asking price
Never agree with the view just because a team gets relegated then all the players are rubbish and not worth looking at.
Quote from: Roberty on July 20, 2018, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Alfie Mawson is a 22 year old 6ft 2in English Centre Back. Who has represented England at U21 level.
Not in the U21's any more - he is 24 and Southgate showed no sign of wanting him to take him to Russia
If he is so good why did the Swans get relegated last season and at the moment no one wants to pay their asking price
Was in two England squads & was definitely in the running for the world cup until he needed knee surgery in May.
As for if hes so good why did Swansea get relegated? Seriously? Its about a squad no one player. Ask Swansea fans about him & they'll tell you he was probably their best player last season
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Alfie Mawson is a 22 year old 6ft 2in English Centre Back. Who has represented England at U21 level.
Thanks Woolly.
Perhaps we should snag him at RCB and go for Mbupu at RB then.
😀
Fabri's basically confirmed he's joining us (or at the very least leaving Besiktas). These are all translated from Twitter if the syntax isn't right.
"The Premier League is a very big league. It's a league I'm interested in. Negotiations with Fulham are in progress. Certain agreements were made orally. I really want to play there. I love Besiktas, but it's time to embark on a new adventure. Thank you Besiktas "
"It's time to embark on a new adventure. I came here to be happy, to do the best I could. I was happy and I won good luck. "
I'm so bored of waiting for the club to announce these deals that are seemingly done and dusted or close... feels like they've been like that for weeks.
If we finialise Fabri and Mitrovic over the weekend, that keeps us on track. 2 a week was needed.
Everton about to tie up Richarlison from Watford for £50m.... crazy money
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 20, 2018, 06:23:15 PM
If we finialise Fabri and Mitrovic over the weekend, that keeps us on track. 2 a week was needed.
on track numbers wise, but not great for pre season. Needed everyone in and up to speed for Palace
Quote from: ollienixs on July 20, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
Everton about to tie up Richarlison from Watford for £50m.... crazy money
Since no one else seems to want to play for them - they should consider themselves lucky to have him
Quote from: ollienixs on July 20, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
Everton about to tie up Richarlison from Watford for £50m.... crazy money
I mean he had some very bright moments last Zealand but it averaged out over the season to be an average season with some genuine quality. Definitely not worth 50million. Everton has seemingly fallen apart since moyes left which is a while ago now.
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 06:46:55 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 20, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
Everton about to tie up Richarlison from Watford for £50m.... crazy money
I mean he had some very bright moments last Zealand but it averaged out over the season to be an average season with some genuine quality. Definitely not worth 50million. Everton has seemingly fallen apart since moyes left which is a while ago now.
He makes the touted figure of £18m that few clubs have on the table for Traore from borough a bargain
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
Maybe SK knows something we don't - the club have always held their card close to their chest so I have no idea what TK has in mind for recruitment but if he fails I can see his Dad putting him over his knee for a spanking
I know it's irritating with the numbers floating around Prem football these past few weeks.. but i suppose the reality is that haggling (and hence dragging out transfers..) saves millions of pounds..
I would still sleep easier if Mitro put pen to paper though!
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
The chairman plays no part in our transfer business.
The window is not over. The season hasn't started. If you rush, you end up with Greg Cunningham.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 20, 2018, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
The window is not over. The season hasn't started. If you rush, you end up with Greg Cunningham.
Or Fotheringham!! Remember him! 😋
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Understand Fulham's deal for Besiktas goalkeeper Fabri is done #ffc
So.. Everton's new £50m forward scored 5 goals last season?
Leicester City, Crystal Palace, Fulham and Fenerbahce are all interested in signing Yannick Bolasie. Everton are not actively looking to sell him, but they are willing to listen to offers from other clubs. (Source: Liverpool Echo)
With the Richarlison news you'd expect him to go further down the pecking order. Would be more realistic than Cavaleiro or Malcom. Think I saw they'd take 15m for him. Get Kebano to get in his ear. Plus the potential to move back down to London.
I've been in the championship for too long. I haven't got a clue who he is
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
"But can he do it on a wet and windy night in Stoke?"
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
Part of the fee will be down to Watford being very reluctant to sell to Marco Silva/Everton after what happened last season. I'm surprised they've not point blank refused to, even at that price.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 20, 2018, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
Part of the fee will be down to Watford being very reluctant to sell to Marco Silva/Everton after what happened last season. I'm surprised they've not point blank refused to, even at that price.
what happened last season
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2018, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 20, 2018, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
Part of the fee will be down to Watford being very reluctant to sell to Marco Silva/Everton after what happened last season. I'm surprised they've not point blank refused to, even at that price.
what happened last season
Everton sack Koeman, want Silva, Silva asks to go, Watford say no, Watford's form goes off a cliff with them eventually sacking Silva after so clearly having his head turned. This also coincided with Richarlison's form going off said cliff and I'm pretty sure he even did interviews/Instagram posts complaining about the decision to sack Silva (https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/richarlison-explains-outburst-marco-silva-sacking/).
You're right General, he looks like someone who can finish and set up others as well as being a quick, skillful dribbler, which is a combination wingers don't always have - I would be very happy with a front three of Mitrovic, Sessegnon and Malcom, with Cairney and Seri as suppliers, but I'm worried Roma will use the money they got from Alisson to secure this player and he'd likely choose a Champions League club over Fulham
Leicester City, Crystal Palace, Fulham and Fenerbahce are all interested in signing Yannick Bolasie. Everton are not actively looking to sell him, but they are willing to listen to offers from other clubs. (Source: Liverpool Echo)
......Yannick lives in West London, in the road next to mine, so that could give us an edge!!
'Celta Vigo's Sergi Gomez gaining interest. Toulouse willing to bid €5m for the centre back but @Estadio_ED say Fulham have now entered the race. Good ball playing centre back with a capable passing range.'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergi_Gómez
Interested in Sergi Gomez of Celta Vigo allegedly, and he's apparently available for €5m which is ridiculously cheap as he's a very good ball playing Spanish centre half who came through Barcelona's academy;
http://www.estadiodeportivo.com/noticias-futbol/celta/2018/07/20/sergi-gomez-ofertas-toulouse-fulham/174065.html
Quote from: Milo on July 20, 2018, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
"But can he do it on a wet and windy night in Stoke?"
Who cares? Stoke will have Wigan and Rotherham to contend with instead
Quote from: Roberty on July 20, 2018, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 20, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Alfie Mawson is a 22 year old 6ft 2in English Centre Back. Who has represented England at U21 level.
Not in the U21's any more - he is 24 and Southgate showed no sign of wanting him to take him to Russia
If he is so good why did the Swans get relegated last season and at the moment no one wants to pay their asking price
Exactly the same could have been said about Harry Maguire 12 months ago when he was relegated with Hull. Look at him now.
Quote from: FFC365 on July 20, 2018, 09:31:14 PM
Leicester City, Crystal Palace, Fulham and Fenerbahce are all interested in signing Yannick Bolasie. Everton are not actively looking to sell him, but they are willing to listen to offers from other clubs. (Source: Liverpool Echo)
......Yannick lives in West London, in the road next to mine, so that could give us an edge!!
or not now he knows he has a stalker
Quote from: Milo on July 20, 2018, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: General on July 20, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: GJB96 on July 20, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
Richarlison got 5 goals and 8 assists across last season, which as a 20 year old winger in your first season in the premier league is decent IMO. He also came straight from playing in the Brazilian league and playing regularly for the Brazil U20 national team (which meant no summer break) to start for Watford last September, so was naturally knackered come the second half of the season so his performance got worse. £50 mill is far too much money, but the player they're getting looks very promising.
Malcom contributed to 19 of Bordeaux's 56 goals last season and is 21 and costs 10£m less.
"But can he do it on a wet and windy night in Stoke?"
it's the same weather in France...
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2018, 08:37:30 PM
I've been in the championship for too long. I haven't got a clue who he is
.....and did not realise that prices had gone so insane!!! :(
I'm wondering if any players will be announced over the weekend or held back until next week? Fabri and Mitro are pretty much certain now.
From twitter:
Fabri: "I want to play with Fulham, I really like to play there, I love Besiktas, but it's time to get into a new adventure."
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Provided they're actually signed up, there's no difference between announcing them at midnight, tomorrow or Monday. Everyone's in France at the minute, including Geoff Pruce from the media team so I'd doubt we'll see anything tomorrow or Sunday. (Hopefully) get them a full week of training before we go to Germany next weekend.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 20, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
Everton about to tie up Richarlison from Watford for £50m.... crazy money
That is just pathetic....... No way is Richarlison worth £50m.. That must make Sess £150m
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
One of the reasons Joka is not renewing.. ...
I called it a while ago and was called a WUM. Then some that claimed I was a WUM said he was signing last week.. Did that happen? Erm no!
Joka may very well sign an extension but he is pretty p1553d that he's expected to work miracles. He's fighting a constant battle as to who he wants in v those the scouts/ stat process wants hence Parker return.
Parker on standby to cover Joka as next HC.. Alledgedly
Quote from: David I on July 20, 2018, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
One of the reasons Joka is not renewing.. ...
I called it a while ago and was called a WUM. Then some that claimed I was a WUM said he was signing last week.. Did that happen? Erm no!
Joka may very well sign an extension but he is pretty p1553d that he's expected to work miracles. He's fighting a constant battle as to who he wants in v those the scouts/ stat process wants hence Parker return.
Parker on standby to cover Joka as next HC.. Alledgedly
The reason you got called a wum is because the only thing you seem to be ITK about at the club is our manager not wanting to sign a contract extension, nothing else. Seems quite odd that one little snippet you happen to know could be made up based on recycling rumours from last summer, and now you rehash it by saying he might sign but won't be happy if he does - do you not think it odd that someone would sign a contract extension whilst not being happy, in your own words, because the transfer model we employ is how we've operated as a club for quite a while now and if he really didn't like it then I'm sure he'd walk.
It looks like we're about to sign the striker he wants most of all, and I doubt he'd be upset with us signing a keeper that the goalkeeping coach he wanted at the club, recommended we sign as well. By all means elaborate as to how you know what you claim to know, but seeing as it's just one thing you pop up with periodically, you can understand the skepticism I'm sure.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: David I on July 20, 2018, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
One of the reasons Joka is not renewing.. ...
I called it a while ago and was called a WUM. Then some that claimed I was a WUM said he was signing last week.. Did that happen? Erm no!
Joka may very well sign an extension but he is pretty p1553d that he's expected to work miracles. He's fighting a constant battle as to who he wants in v those the scouts/ stat process wants hence Parker return.
Parker on standby to cover Joka as next HC.. Alledgedly
The reason you got called a wum is because the only thing you seem to be ITK about at the club is our manager not wanting to sign a contract extension, nothing else. Seems quite odd that one little snippet you happen to know could be made up based on recycling rumours from last summer, and now you rehash it by saying he might sign but won't be happy if he does - do you not think it odd that someone would sign a contract extension whilst not being happy, in your own words, because the transfer model we employ is how we've operated as a club for quite a while now and if he really didn't like it then I'm sure he'd walk.
It looks like we're about to sign the striker he wants most of all, and I doubt he'd be upset with us signing a keeper that the goalkeeping coach he wanted at the club, recommended we sign as well. By all means elaborate as to how you know what you claim to know, but seeing as it's just one thing you pop up with periodically, you can understand the skepticism I'm sure.
nice answer..
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 20, 2018, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: David I on July 20, 2018, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: filham on July 20, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Name after name on this thread but still we have not replaced the loan players that have gone missing and only three weeks until the big KO.
Is the Chairman aware that we are performing in a manner that could make us relegation favourites before the season starts and a relegation certainty by Christmas.
Oh dear that is a bit hard, but we really should have done a lot more by now.
One of the reasons Joka is not renewing.. ...
I called it a while ago and was called a WUM. Then some that claimed I was a WUM said he was signing last week.. Did that happen? Erm no!
Joka may very well sign an extension but he is pretty p1553d that he's expected to work miracles. He's fighting a constant battle as to who he wants in v those the scouts/ stat process wants hence Parker return.
Parker on standby to cover Joka as next HC.. Alledgedly
The reason you got called a wum is because the only thing you seem to be ITK about at the club is our manager not wanting to sign a contract extension, nothing else. Seems quite odd that one little snippet you happen to know could be made up based on recycling rumours from last summer, and now you rehash it by saying he might sign but won't be happy if he does - do you not think it odd that someone would sign a contract extension whilst not being happy, in your own words, because the transfer model we employ is how we've operated as a club for quite a while now and if he really didn't like it then I'm sure he'd walk.
It looks like we're about to sign the striker he wants most of all, and I doubt he'd be upset with us signing a keeper that the goalkeeping coach he wanted at the club, recommended we sign as well. By all means elaborate as to how you know what you claim to know, but seeing as it's just one thing you pop up with periodically, you can understand the skepticism I'm sure.
Plus, regardless of what some people would have you believe. The Khan's aren't stupid. No chance they'd give a "rookie" manager their first chance should Jokanovic go this season after Meulensteen and Kit and how they turned out. I like Parker, and down the road could see him managing us, but not after one year of coaching Spurs' kids.
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
Quote from: David I on July 20, 2018, 11:34:16 PM
One of the reasons Joka is not renewing.. ...
I called it a while ago and was called a WUM. Then some that claimed I was a WUM said he was signing last week.. Did that happen? Erm no!
Joka may very well sign an extension but he is pretty p1553d that he's expected to work miracles. He's fighting a constant battle as to who he wants in v those the scouts/ stat process wants hence Parker return.
Parker on standby to cover Joka as next HC.. Allegedly.
Following the logic of much that has happened at FFC over the years I have also wondered about this. In a little under a year's time if a coat of paint called 'eggshell reality' has been applied over the 'white wall gloss' of May then who'd want to stick around to watch it dry?
Quote from: The Rock on July 21, 2018, 03:28:06 AM
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
It was
Mitro-Jokanovic very quick thinking time and we need a copious dose of it right here, right now.
Quote from: toshes mate on July 21, 2018, 07:10:44 AM
Quote from: The Rock on July 21, 2018, 03:28:06 AM
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
It was Mitro-Jokanovic very quick thinking time and we need a copious dose of it right here, right now.
More to that story than just a WhatsApp, message.
One of the reasons Joka is not renewing.. ...
I called it a while ago and was called a WUM. Then some that claimed I was a WUM said he was signing last week.. Did that happen? Erm no!
Joka may very well sign an extension but he is pretty p1553d that he's expected to work miracles. He's fighting a constant battle as to who he wants in v those the scouts/ stat process wants hence Parker return.
Parker on standby to cover Joka as next HC.. Alledgedly
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Or the alternate view .
Stuart Gray was the back up - he has gone
Parker is Joka's choice and his appointment shows his commitment
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Fabri & Mitrovic will be 2 good signings let's hope we get them done soon. Another CB , LB , RM needed after that for me. Maybe another striker in case Mitrovic got injured
Quote from: MJG on July 21, 2018, 07:54:39 AM
More to that story than just a WhatsApp, message.
For sure everybody will want a piece of anything successful and claim a role. But there is only ever one true version and I doubt any of us will ever hear it.
Mawson not coming, Fulham wont meet Swansea's valuation 23m, Burnley will
Hes meeting Dyche today
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 21, 2018, 09:13:49 AM
Mawson not coming, Fulham wont meet Swansea's valuation 23m, Burnley will
Hes meeting Dyche today
That's a shame
Quote from: Statto on July 21, 2018, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: The Rock on July 21, 2018, 03:28:06 AM
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
I hope you're right.
The thing is that even relatively recently, we've still appeared terrible at transfer business at times. Remember January 2017. We had 2 strikers, Chris Martin who wanted to leave, and Matt Smith. The clubs around us were making moves for Rhodes, Nugent, Gestede et al. We sold Matt Smith and failed with a last-minute attempt to sign AK47. Perhaps I occassionally exagerate some drama on here but that evening, when the window shut, I genuinely remember thinking it must be some sort of joke or mistake until about 10am the next morning when it was finally clear beyond all doubt that there was no one else coming in. You could tell from Jokanovic's interviews the next day he felt the same way.
Oh god yes I remember that well. I had the same feeling. There's no shame in saying that we aren't fantastic at transfer windows. I wonder if it's because we set our sights quite high in terms of quality of player but don't have the financials to back it up. Ali Mac does like to nickle and dime over fees and wages etc. and I have no issue with that given the relatively small size of the club. The consequence is that we probably lose out on a lot of targets and have to bring players in last minute or, if there's no one available last minute that's an improvement on current players, not bring in any one at all (Jan 17).
Quote from: Statto on July 21, 2018, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: The Rock on July 21, 2018, 03:28:06 AM
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
I hope you're right.
The thing is that even relatively recently, we've still appeared terrible at transfer business at times. Remember January 2017. We had 2 strikers, Chris Martin who wanted to leave, and Matt Smith. The clubs around us were making moves for Rhodes, Nugent, Gestede et al. We sold Matt Smith and failed with a last-minute attempt to sign AK47. Perhaps I occassionally exagerate some drama on here but that evening, when the window shut, I genuinely remember thinking it must be some sort of joke or mistake until about 10am the next morning when it was finally clear beyond all doubt that there was no one else coming in. You could tell from Jokanovic's interviews the next day he felt the same way.
Felt the same Statto . But all those players you mentioned Rhodes etc failed to set the world alight (possible exception of Nugent ),so with the benefit of high insight we did the right thing not to sign any of them.Especially when you consider our FFP predicament at the time .
Quote from: colinwhite on July 21, 2018, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 21, 2018, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: The Rock on July 21, 2018, 03:28:06 AM
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
I hope you're right.
The thing is that even relatively recently, we've still appeared terrible at transfer business at times. Remember January 2017. We had 2 strikers, Chris Martin who wanted to leave, and Matt Smith. The clubs around us were making moves for Rhodes, Nugent, Gestede et al. We sold Matt Smith and failed with a last-minute attempt to sign AK47. Perhaps I occassionally exagerate some drama on here but that evening, when the window shut, I genuinely remember thinking it must be some sort of joke or mistake until about 10am the next morning when it was finally clear beyond all doubt that there was no one else coming in. You could tell from Jokanovic's interviews the next day he felt the same way.
Felt the same Statto . But all those players you mentioned Rhodes etc failed to set the world alight (possible exception of Nugent ),so with the benefit of high insight we did the right thing not to sign any of them.Especially when you consider our FFP predicament at the time .
Additionally, stat boy Kline is no longer with the club, and SJ may have more say, which isn't a bad thing.
Sergio Gomez from Celta Vigo bid firmly made. Mitro and Fabri deals done. Final bid we're hopeful with of 10 million for Targett. Kalas and Piazon still likely at 8 million for the pair. Now if the majority of that came to fruition and we add two very high level season loans that the club are trying to get in ... we won't be far off. Just coz the revolving door isn't spinning yet, it doesn't mean behind that door every effort isn't being made to push people through. The club are simply trying to keep deals sensible rather than just pay what's initially asked, and you cannot blame FFC for that.
Quote from: alexbishop on July 21, 2018, 10:47:37 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 21, 2018, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: The Rock on July 21, 2018, 03:28:06 AM
Khans won't fail again don't think. After Seri, We mean biz.
It's heart wrenching, but it'll be done.
Mitro came at what time was it?
I hope you're right.
The thing is that even relatively recently, we've still appeared terrible at transfer business at times. Remember January 2017. We had 2 strikers, Chris Martin who wanted to leave, and Matt Smith. The clubs around us were making moves for Rhodes, Nugent, Gestede et al. We sold Matt Smith and failed with a last-minute attempt to sign AK47. Perhaps I occassionally exagerate some drama on here but that evening, when the window shut, I genuinely remember thinking it must be some sort of joke or mistake until about 10am the next morning when it was finally clear beyond all doubt that there was no one else coming in. You could tell from Jokanovic's interviews the next day he felt the same way.
Oh god yes I remember that well. I had the same feeling. There's no shame in saying that we aren't fantastic at transfer windows. I wonder if it's because we set our sights quite high in terms of quality of player but don't have the financials to back it up. Ali Mac does like to nickle and dime over fees and wages etc. and I have no issue with that given the relatively small size of the club. The consequence is that we probably lose out on a lot of targets and have to bring players in last minute or, if there's no one available last minute that's an improvement on current players, not bring in any one at all (Jan 17).
Well he didn't save very many nickel and dimes when he threw 9mill down the drain for Fonte last summer.
So perhaps there is a question mark against his judgement and negotiating skills.
The championship is a very different league to the premiership, so we should judge Fonte on how he plays off the bench this season, rather than focusing on how he played last year. I may be wrong when I say that I think Fonte will have a better season this year in the new league, but it also can't be said that he is certain to be a flop and a continued waste of money until we have seen his performances, now he has had time to adjust to English football.
I also think Kamara will mature into a more composed threat this season and could be quite a handful for those left back's who are better in attack than defence.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 21, 2018, 12:16:29 PM
Sergio Gomez from Celta Vigo bid firmly made. Mitro and Fabri deals done. Final bid we're hopeful with of 10 million for Targett. Kalas and Piazon still likely at 8 million for the pair. Now if the majority of that came to fruition and we add two very high level season loans that the club are trying to get in ... we won't be far off. Just coz the revolving door isn't spinning yet, it doesn't mean behind that door every effort isn't being made to push people through. The club are simply trying to keep deals sensible rather than just pay what's initially asked, and you cannot blame FFC for that.
Who are the loans we're trying to get? I feel like in all of this we're missing a LB so surely that's got to be one of the positions, and I don't see the point in bringing Kalas back if we're trying to buy another CB as that would leave us with 5, nor do I actually see where Piazon fits into the team going forward.
I agree about Kamara, as for Fonte, he certainly cannot do any worse than last season, so I hope for all our sakes he bucks his ideas up and starts to show why Fulham felt than can invest that kind of money in him.
But the overal lesson there is, and so far Fulham never seem to learn, is not buy a player who is going to spend at least a year acclimatising and settling in, didn't they do their homework on him, seeing as they take so long to make their minds up in the first place.
After all professional players in the main, should be exactly that professional, and make a concerted effort to settle in far quicker.
As for Fonte going by his demeaner off the pitch and on the touchline and in the dressing room, he had settled in quite well already.
Which begs the question why has he not settled on the pitch. Is it ability, is it his mental strength.
We may find out if and when he gets his opportunity next season.
But for me I would not be planning my playing strategy around Fonte.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 21, 2018, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on July 21, 2018, 12:16:29 PM
Sergio Gomez from Celta Vigo bid firmly made. Mitro and Fabri deals done. Final bid we're hopeful with of 10 million for Targett. Kalas and Piazon still likely at 8 million for the pair. Now if the majority of that came to fruition and we add two very high level season loans that the club are trying to get in ... we won't be far off. Just coz the revolving door isn't spinning yet, it doesn't mean behind that door every effort isn't being made to push people through. The club are simply trying to keep deals sensible rather than just pay what's initially asked, and you cannot blame FFC for that.
Who are the loans we're trying to get? I feel like in all of this we're missing a LB so surely that's got to be one of the positions, and I don't see the point in bringing Kalas back if we're trying to buy another CB as that would leave us with 5, nor do I actually see where Piazon fits into the team going forward.
Wouldn't surprise me if one of the loans we're trying for was Bolasie.
Please can someone let me know what is a wum? It's obviously an insult but I have asked people here in Hamburg and nobody knows.
Wind Up Merchant
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2018, 12:52:53 PM
I agree about Kamara, as for Fonte, he certainly cannot do any worse than last season, so I hope for all our sakes he bucks his ideas up and starts to show why Fulham felt than can invest that kind of money in him.
But the overal lesson there is, and so far Fulham never seem to learn, is not buy a player who is going spend at least a year acclimatising and settling in, didn't they do their homework on him, seeing as they take so long to make their minds up in the first place.
After all professional players in the main, should be exactly that professional, and settle in far quicker. As for Fonte going by his demeaner off the pitch and on the touchline and in the dressing room, he had settled quite well already.
Which begs the question why has he not settled on the pitch. Is it ability, is it his mental strength.
We may find out if and when he gets his opportunity next season.
But for me I would not be planning my playing strategy round Fonte.
I agree about Kamara too. Lots of potential there!
As for Fonte... I'm sure he has a lot more quality than what we saw of him last season but how exactly should we use him? He can't possibly be considered as a backup/sub for Mitrovic (if we get him). They are far too different in physique/style. He doesn't look like a winger either, at least not from what I've seen. And there's no room for him at CM. I have a feeling he would work better as a second striker in a different formation. He's just doesn't look like the kind of player we need.
Fonte seems like a very nice person and really dedicated to the club so I would love for him to have a great season. But I just don't see it happening. It's not just the lack of goals. He doesn't seem to fit into our style of play.
And worst of all, I can't see us signing more than one striker this summer with Fonte still around. I really can't see us holding on to a 9m striker if he ends up THAT far down the pecking order. And judging by his recent interview on ffctv he's not going anywhere. Meaning, we will have to rely on Mitro not getting injured (assuming we even get him...).
Ok, so AK47 could probably do a decent job as a backup striker, at least better than what I've seen of Fonte, but AK has been FAR better as a winger. He's probably our best option at RW at the moment and should play there IMO. At least unless we sign a better RW.
So where exactly does this leave us?
Brighton have turned down bids from Hull for Oliver Norwood.
Yes I can see Kamara pushing on and improving for us. Great upper body strength and blistering pace.
Perhaps he needs a better first touch at times, and a little more composure in front of goal, but I like him.
As for Fonte, maybe if he played in the hole behind the striker, would we see his strengths, but not sure if that would generally be our system of play, and then of course others may have already been pencilled in.
Yes, agreed! Kamara should be primarily used as a winger - worst type of player you'd want to mark as a full back with his strength and pace, especially as wing backs are so forward thinking now.
Regarding Fonte, I think it's important to remember that Mitrovic isn't necessarily the only type of striker to suit our system. If Fonte can make the right runs and get into the right positions, he may not need physicality to get goals, we've got good enough midfielders to provide the opportunities. He'll need an immediate impact off the bench though to stop him going down the pecking order, because I can't see Slav only looking for one striker in Mitro this summer.
Sergi Gomez is signing for Toulouse. 🙈
Quote from: Hoppus on July 21, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
Sergi Gomez is signing for Toulouse. 🙈
Celta are pushing him to move and have refused to offer a new contract - they have two other players in the same boat one of whom is "training at home" - something does not sound right about this bargain buy
Anyone have any idea of andre schurrle? In talks with an unnamed premier league club - think I saw somewhere it was a London based club?
Considering it's unnamed could be anyone although crystal palace fans seem the keenest. Being an unnamed club does tie into fulham's policy of keeping things quiet and as I'm led to believe we were interested in Malcom another RW who seems to be on his way to Roma, although someone suggested his preference was a premiership club.
Currently 27 so under 28 policy, lost his way a bit recently and also has had personal issues with breaking up with his fiancée - so a family club, with less pressure could work well for him?
Quote from: General on July 21, 2018, 07:26:23 PM
Anyone have any idea of andre schurrle? In talks with an unnamed premier league club - think I saw somewhere it was a London based club?
Considering it's unnamed could be anyone although crystal palace fans seem the keenest. Being an unnamed club does tie into fulham's policy of keeping things quiet and as I'm led to believe we were interested in Malcom another RW who seems to be on his way to Roma, although someone suggested his preference was a premiership club.
Currently 27 so under 28 policy, lost his way a bit recently and also has had personal issues with breaking up with his fiancée - so a family club, with less pressure could work well for him?
was he the lad that played for Chelsea? If he is the one I'm thinking of, then he was fantastic for them, and I can't believe they let him go
Quote from: General on July 21, 2018, 07:26:23 PM
Anyone have any idea of andre schurrle? In talks with an unnamed premier league club - think I saw somewhere it was a London based club?
Considering it's unnamed could be anyone although crystal palace fans seem the keenest. Being an unnamed club does tie into fulham's policy of keeping things quiet and as I'm led to believe we were interested in Malcom another RW who seems to be on his way to Roma, although someone suggested his preference was a premiership club.
Currently 27 so under 28 policy, lost his way a bit recently and also has had personal issues with breaking up with his fiancée - so a family club, with less pressure could work well for him?
He certainly fits the right profile.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 21, 2018, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: General on July 21, 2018, 07:26:23 PM
Anyone have any idea of andre schurrle? In talks with an unnamed premier league club - think I saw somewhere it was a London based club?
Considering it's unnamed could be anyone although crystal palace fans seem the keenest. Being an unnamed club does tie into fulham's policy of keeping things quiet and as I'm led to believe we were interested in Malcom another RW who seems to be on his way to Roma, although someone suggested his preference was a premiership club.
Currently 27 so under 28 policy, lost his way a bit recently and also has had personal issues with breaking up with his fiancée - so a family club, with less pressure could work well for him?
was he the lad that played for Chelsea? If he is the one I'm thinking of, then he was fantastic for them, and I can't believe they let him go
He hasn't been able to stay healthy at Dortmund, so that would be my concern.
I brought up Schurrle in another thread. Think he could be the sort of player who does well being the "big fish" player rather than being a bit part player like he was at Chelsea and Dortmund. Would be all over him if I was Tony Khan. He can play RW, LW or even Striker if Mitrovic doesn't work out for whatever reason.
Would think we're more likely to try and loan him though. Think our RW signing will be someone like Bolasie on loan.
According to Sky Danny Welbeck could be available for £15 million.
Is he someone we should consider?
I would consider Danny Welbeck, plenty of Premier League experience, and a proven goal scorer.
Probably couldn't afford his salary
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2018, 08:45:05 PM
I would consider Danny Welbeck, plenty of Premier League experience, and a proven goal scorer.
he's always injured though.
Jose Fonte signs for Lille.
Ross to Sunderland on loan(pending)
Plymouth Argyle after Cauley.
sign some players pls
According to press reports this morning Chris Smalling has been told that he can leave Man Utd as they consider a bid for Harry Maguire,
If I was Fulham I would move heaven and earth to get Smalling back here, at 6ft 4 with a calm and composed temperament he is just the sort of player we are crying out for,
A far better centre half than anybody else that we currently have on our books.
Settling in at this late stage should be a lot easier as well, Smalling and two top drawer full backs to bomb up and down the line and I'll start to breathe a little easier,
I'll leave others to go o.t.t over Mitrovic this week I'm going to hold my emotions in check until we sign at least 3 decent defenders and Smalling would make a great start.
Smalling,he would add a lot to the squad and make us all feel a lot easier and a quality player.
Schurrle is back in London talking to Palace and Fulham apparently.
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Schurrle to leave Dortmund. Rumours about CPFC/Zaha switch or FFC.
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 22, 2018, 08:13:44 AM
Schurrle is back in London talking to Palace and Fulham apparently.
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Palace pay decent wages, so I'd be amazed if we can make this happen
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2018, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on July 22, 2018, 08:13:44 AM
Schurrle is back in London talking to Palace and Fulham apparently.
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Palace pay decent wages, so I'd be amazed if we can make this happen
Palace can't offer him a Chelsea kit to play in though like we can !
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
According to press reports this morning Chris Smalling has been told that he can leave Man Utd as they consider a bid for Harry Maguire,
If I was Fulham I would move heaven and earth to get Smalling back here, at 6ft 4 with a calm and composed temperament he is just the sort of player we are crying out for,
A far better centre half than anybody else that we currently have on our books.
Settling in at this late stage should be a lot easier as well, Smalling and two top drawer full backs to bomb up and down the line and I'll start to breathe a little easier,
I'll leave others to go o.t.t over Mitrovic this week I'm going to hold my emotions in check until we sign at least 3 decent defenders and Smalling would make a great start.
This is a great shout and why not Joe Hart while we're at it, unless the Besiktas keeper really is on the way? City are so desperate to get rid of him, they'd probably drive him down to us. Can't see fees for either being too high as both clubs want rid and they cover off the lack of Premier League experience at a stroke. Plus, if they really want to play, they'd need to be realistic on wages. Just a thought.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 22, 2018, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
According to press reports this morning Chris Smalling has been told that he can leave Man Utd as they consider a bid for Harry Maguire,
If I was Fulham I would move heaven and earth to get Smalling back here, at 6ft 4 with a calm and composed temperament he is just the sort of player we are crying out for,
A far better centre half than anybody else that we currently have on our books.
Settling in at this late stage should be a lot easier as well, Smalling and two top drawer full backs to bomb up and down the line and I'll start to breathe a little easier,
I'll leave others to go o.t.t over Mitrovic this week I'm going to hold my emotions in check until we sign at least 3 decent defenders and Smalling would make a great start.
This is a great shout and why not Joe Hart while we're at it, unless the Besiktas keeper really is on the way? City are so desperate to get rid of him, they'd probably drive him down to us. Can't see fees for either being too high as both clubs want rid and they cover off the lack of Premier League experience at a stroke. Plus, if they really want to play, they'd need to be realistic on wages. Just a thought.
The quoted price for Hart is £5 million !!! Wages would be high but still seems a bargain to me,
Plus Joe Hart and Chris Smalling are already playing and living in England, and know the Premier League inside out, or is that too sensible and obvious. Plus I wouldn't say no to Jack Grealish and Danny Welbeck for the same reasons.
Weird - I keep looking at the calendar.
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 22, 2018, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
According to press reports this morning Chris Smalling has been told that he can leave Man Utd as they consider a bid for Harry Maguire,
If I was Fulham I would move heaven and earth to get Smalling back here, at 6ft 4 with a calm and composed temperament he is just the sort of player we are crying out for,
A far better centre half than anybody else that we currently have on our books.
Settling in at this late stage should be a lot easier as well, Smalling and two top drawer full backs to bomb up and down the line and I'll start to breathe a little easier,
I'll leave others to go o.t.t over Mitrovic this week I'm going to hold my emotions in check until we sign at least 3 decent defenders and Smalling would make a great start.
This is a great shout and why not Joe Hart while we're at it, unless the Besiktas keeper really is on the way? City are so desperate to get rid of him, they'd probably drive him down to us. Can't see fees for either being too high as both clubs want rid and they cover off the lack of Premier League experience at a stroke. Plus, if they really want to play, they'd need to be realistic on wages. Just a thought.
The quoted price for Hart is £5 million !!! Wages would be high but still seems a bargain to me,
Did you see how many mistakes Joe Hart made last season for West Ham? There's a reason he's that cheap and it's because he's not very good any more. Maybe 5 years ago he was a solid keeper, nowadays he's a mistake waiting to happen and his confidence is shot to pieces.
Schurrle and Smalling now please. Press the button!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 10:06:46 AM
Plus Joe Hart and Chris Smalling are already playing and living in England, and know the Premier League inside out, or is that too sensible and obvious. Plus I wouldn't say no to Jack Grealish and Danny Welbeck for the same reasons.
that expierence would make a huge difference to any promoted team and for us add strength on to our new sighnings.
Quote from: keithh on July 22, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Weird - I keep looking at the calendar.
Funny enough so do I,the wife has promised me sex at Xmas.😊😊😊
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 10:06:46 AM
Plus Joe Hart and Chris Smalling are already playing and living in England, and know the Premier League inside out, or is that too sensible and obvious. Plus I wouldn't say no to Jack Grealish and Danny Welbeck for the same reasons.
Not at all. Sensible and obvious is good. Sometimes the answer is right in front of you and in a world of £60m keepers, this makes sense to me - Welbeck too, as he seems a hard worker pleasantly devoid of a massive ego. And I take the other point about Hart making lots of mistakes at West Ham last season - and I don't think he pulled up any trees at Torino the season before - but I think some of that may be to do with West Ham being a mess last year and the instability of his own situation being unceremoniously booted out of City at such short notice. Buy him, show him he's wanted and give him a fair crack at being no. 1 and how hard will he work to get back and prove people wrong? Often the player with a point to prove works the hardest. And he used to be very good - maybe in the right environment he could be again? Just strikes me as a low risk punt with plenty of potential upside.
Smalling/Bailly/Rojo need to go apparently for Manchester United to buy Maguire - any one of them would be more than adequate for our team and hopefully would come at better value than $35million Lopez from Espanyol.
Quote from: keithh on July 22, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Weird - I keep looking at the calendar.
You keep looking at the calendar you say. Don't worry me, that's what Jed Baker did in 1786 before they hung him for poaching the Kings Pheasants.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 22, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 10:06:46 AM
Plus Joe Hart and Chris Smalling are already playing and living in England, and know the Premier League inside out, or is that too sensible and obvious. Plus I wouldn't say no to Jack Grealish and Danny Welbeck for the same reasons.
Not at all. Sensible and obvious is good. Sometimes the answer is right in front of you and in a world of £60m keepers, this makes sense to me - Welbeck too, as he seems a hard worker pleasantly devoid of a massive ego. And I take the other point about Hart making lots of mistakes at West Ham last season - and I don't think he pulled up any trees at Torino the season before - but I think some of that may be to do with West Ham being a mess last year and the instability of his own situation being unceremoniously booted out of City at such short notice. Buy him, show him he's wanted and give him a fair crack at being no. 1 and how hard will he work to get back and prove people wrong? Often the player with a point to prove works the hardest. And he used to be very good - maybe in the right environment he could be again? Just strikes me as a low risk punt with plenty of potential upside.
Well said, and I agree 100%
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Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on July 22, 2018, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
According to press reports this morning Chris Smalling has been told that he can leave Man Utd as they consider a bid for Harry Maguire,
If I was Fulham I would move heaven and earth to get Smalling back here, at 6ft 4 with a calm and composed temperament he is just the sort of player we are crying out for,
A far better centre half than anybody else that we currently have on our books.
Settling in at this late stage should be a lot easier as well, Smalling and two top drawer full backs to bomb up and down the line and I'll start to breathe a little easier,
I'll leave others to go o.t.t over Mitrovic this week I'm going to hold my emotions in check until we sign at least 3 decent defenders and Smalling would make a great start.
This is a great shout and why not Joe Hart while we're at it, unless the Besiktas keeper really is on the way? City are so desperate to get rid of him, they'd probably drive him down to us. Can't see fees for either being too high as both clubs want rid and they cover off the lack of Premier League experience at a stroke. Plus, if they really want to play, they'd need to be realistic on wages. Just a thought.
The quoted price for Hart is £5 million !!! Wages would be high but still seems a bargain to me,
Did you see how many mistakes Joe Hart made last season for West Ham? There's a reason he's that cheap and it's because he's not very good any more. Maybe 5 years ago he was a solid keeper, nowadays he's a mistake waiting to happen and his confidence is shot to pieces.
Sounds the perfect Fulham player, get them on the way down build them back up, only problem is hes crap with his feet that's why Pep wanted rid
Hart is a top goalie,want be the first of them to have lost his confidence along the way,then bounced back.
Am i right in thinkin the transfer window closes before the league starts this year
Yes Sir
I think it's the 9th August.
Brighton & Hove Albion FC are set to sign Eredivise top goalscorer Alireza Jahanbakhsh for a fee of around €22 million.
He scored 21 goals in 33 games last season from right wing
Shouldn't we be going after this guy on the face of it
Quote from: ollienixs on July 22, 2018, 12:19:24 PM
Brighton & Hove Albion FC are set to sign Eredivise top goalscorer Alireza Jahanbakhsh for a fee of around €22 million.
He scored 21 goals in 33 games last season from right wing
Shouldn't we be going after this guy on the face of it
Wasnt Ruiz something similar when we brought him
Quote from: Nero on July 22, 2018, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 22, 2018, 12:19:24 PM
Brighton & Hove Albion FC are set to sign Eredivise top goalscorer Alireza Jahanbakhsh for a fee of around €22 million.
He scored 21 goals in 33 games last season from right wing
Shouldn't we be going after this guy on the face of it
Wasnt Ruiz something similar when we brought him
And I still miss him yoo this day.
Please not Hart. Not worth the project and I do believe that the Besikitas GK is on his way. Yes to Schurrle, Welbeck, Mitro, Targett, Bolasie. Top 3, GK would be sorted, and would allow us to offload Kebano, Ayite and Fonte, or at least 2 of the 3. I think we'll keep AK47 as one for the future.
Being linked with Jack Grealish again according to the Mirror
Why Grealish when we have Cairney, Seri, Johansen and McDonald. He won't get automatic first team football which is what he's after, he'll come at a steep price and more importantly, he's not filling a position that Fulham's first team desperately needs being filled. Hopefully Grealish coming to Fulham is just paper talk.
Can't Grealish play on the wing? If so then the move makes sense
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Quote from: GJB on July 22, 2018, 02:23:25 PM
Why Grealish when we have Cairney, Seri, Johansen and McDonald. He won't get automatic first team football which is what he's after, he'll come at a steep price and more importantly, he's not filling a position that Fulham's first team desperately needs being filled. Hopefully Grealish coming to Fulham is just paper talk.
We need depth. He covers a variety of positions. And could well be a starter.
I would take Grealish at the drop of a hat. He is only a couple hours up the motorway, save traveling half way round Europe trying to sign ?
He has undoubted quality, knows the Premier League, is hungry ambitious, and we are not exactly bursting at the seams with quality, or anyone come to mention it, and we won't need to spend over the odds either.
We are not exactly in a position to pick and choose, and be so fussy.
If he can play right wing and wouldn't be there wishing he was in the centre (like with Cairney when he used to play right midfield and was very much less effective compared to playing in his central role), then I take my comment back.
If the club are planning to utilise him in the centre though. I still think it's a lot of money when we have Cairney and Seri and Johansen already occupying similar roles.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
I would take Grealish at the drop of a hat. He is only a couple hours up the motorway, save traveling half way round Europe trying to sign ?
He has undoubted quality, knows the Premier League, is hungry ambitious, and we are not exactly bursting at the seams with quality, or anyone come to mention it, and we won't need to spend over the odds either.
squad wise he would be a welcome quality addition in my view as competition squad wise is important.
I can't see Grealish joining to play on the wing, he done multiple interviews last season talking about how much he enjoys playing centrally and he's played infinitely better since he moved. Think he'll end up at Palace if he doesn't go to Spurs because they've lost Loftus-Cheek and Cabaye for their Central-Midfield.
From what I heard yesterday about his character, many clubs will be quite wary about taking him on.
How does Grealish know the EPL? Surely never been tried and tested?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2018, 04:21:47 PM
How does Grealish know the EPL? Surely never been tried and tested?
Has 30+ EPL appearances for Aston Villa!
Villa no longer have to sell for financial reasons after investment. They may well sell for FFP but can now wait till the end of the window to sell at a higher price
Quote from: ffcwickford on July 22, 2018, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2018, 04:21:47 PM
How does Grealish know the EPL? Surely never been tried and tested?
Has 30+ EPL appearances for Aston Villa!
From memory, not wasn't exactly a successful spell or warranting him as an EPL ready player.....I like him but he isn't quite that grade yet.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2018, 10:50:12 AM
Hart is a top goalie,want be the first of them to have lost his confidence along the way,then bounced back.
I disagree. Hart isn't a very good keeper. His handling and decision-making are too poor for the Premier League.
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on July 22, 2018, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2018, 10:50:12 AM
Hart is a top goalie,want be the first of them to have lost his confidence along the way,then bounced back.
I disagree. Hart isn't a very good keeper. His handling and decision-making are too poor for the Premier League.
Well everyone has their opinion.
Don't think City would have bought him and won England caps if he was a bad keeper...Lost confidence in any walk of life is difficult.
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Also, Hart's reflexes and decision making has drastically gone down over the last 3 years. There's a reason Pep took one look at him and decided to ship him off, and it wasn't just his distribution. Not sure how else it can be said, other than Moyes preferred Adrian to him for a good 3 or 4 months of the season.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/947220066?-11176:824
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Schurle ripped us apart that afternoon a few years ago!
Quote from: Tooting legend on July 22, 2018, 07:12:32 PM
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/947220066?-11176:824
Love that, Would be a top signing I think.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Goood. Highly rated by Besiktas fans on twitter which is rare of a departing player. Now lets get the other bodies in!
Quote from: Holders on July 22, 2018, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 22, 2018, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
So up to 5 players potentially then?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:28:59 PM
Also, Hart's reflexes and decision making has drastically gone down over the last 3 years. There's a reason Pep took one look at him and decided to ship him off, and it wasn't just his distribution. Not sure how else it can be said, other than Moyes preferred Adrian to him for a good 3 or 4 months of the season.
Harts problem seems to be when he needs to perform the pressure gets to him and he makes a bad decision, so since city dropped him he felt pressure to perform and **** up like he did for England getting to pumped up and then performs badly,
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 22, 2018, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 22, 2018, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Yes, however to be fair, not for at least 48 hours.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
So up to 5 players potentially then?
Yes, that is affirmative.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 22, 2018, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 22, 2018, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 22, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Yes, however to be fair, not for at least 48 hours.
So the Tuesday 6PM news with Woolly will be the unveiling of our targets :-)
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Yes, however to be fair, not for at least 48 hours.
So the Tuesday 6PM news with Woolly will be the unveiling of our targets :-)
Not at 6pm, I shall be in the Gym pumping iron, and I did state at least 48 hours.
But i shall reveal at the right time when there is no risk of anything going wrong, as naturally I do not wish to misinform as Fulham are so unpredictable and inefficient.
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Yes, however to be fair, not for at least 48 hours.
So the Tuesday 6PM news with Woolly will be the unveiling of our targets :-)
Not at 6pm, I shall be in the Gym pumping iron, and I did state at least 48 hours.
But i shall reveal at the right time when there is no risk of anything going wrong, as naturally I do not wish to misinform as Fulham are so unpredictable and inefficient.
Are they players that we've been publicly linked to, or just completely left field ones?
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
We have been linked to almost every player worth being linked to. That is because even the best journalists do not have the advantage of my informants, that is why the media know no more than the average supporter, hearsay, third party and circumstantial evidence never won a coconut.
I am just as exited as you.
But as we have waited this long, a few more days will not do any harm.
Fulham are unpredictable and inefficient. So you have your excuse for non signings already prepared.
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Fulham are unpredictable and inefficient. So you have your excuse for non signings already prepared.
Yes Yes and thrice Yes.
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
And if pigs had wings they may fly.
Sorry Woolly but we have had so many false promises this summer that I am no longer receptive to exciting rumours. How many times has it been posted that Mitrovic is about to sign.
I much prefer our transfer business generally being under the radar. Saves wasting time following all the gossip sources.
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I much prefer our transfer business generally being under the radar. Saves wasting time following all the gossip sources.
I mean there are how many pages in this thread?
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Not been linked with him, but I was talking to a Chelsea supporting friend earlier and it got me thinking. Malcom 99% won't happen, and we need to sign a RW. We could do a lot worse than try and sign Andre Schurrle. Dortmund don't really fancy him/he hasn't really performed for them, he's proven in the Prem (unfortunately as we found out in our relegation season), he's still "only" 27 so he's a good age as well with potential re-sale value if we get him back on form as well. Plus he'd be a reasonable fee because of said Dortmund not fancying him/him not performing.
Tony Khan might be taking suggestions from this thread if you want to chuck a name into the hat.
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
And if pigs had wings they may fly.
Sorry Woolly but we have had so many false promises this summer that I am no longer receptive to exciting rumours. How many times has it been posted that Mitrovic is about to sign.
I,842 at the last count.
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I much prefer our transfer business generally being under the radar. Saves wasting time following all the gossip sources.
I mean there are how many pages in this thread?
119 and rising
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5980119/Fulham-contact-Dortmund-former-Chelsea-winger-Andre-Schurrle.html
Wolves are supposedly signing Adama Traore. Be interested to see if that means anything for Cavaleiro.
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Hart is a top goalie,want be the first of them to have lost his confidence along the way,then bounced back.
I disagree. Hart isn't a very good keeper. His handling and decision-making are too poor for the Premier League.
Well everyone has their opinion.
Don't think City would have bought him and won England caps if he was a bad keeper...Lost confidence in any walk of life is difficult.
It's not lost confidence, it's decline.
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Hart is a top goalie,want be the first of them to have lost his confidence along the way,then bounced back.
I disagree. Hart isn't a very good keeper. His handling and decision-making are too poor for the Premier League.
Well everyone has their opinion.
Don't think City would have bought him and won England caps if he was a bad keeper...Lost confidence in any walk of life is difficult.
It's not lost confidence, it's decline.
You might be right Ejl,but I think its a confidence thing with him,he still young for a keeper (31),and I think he will bounce back and prove a few wrong.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2018, 10:50:12 AM
Hart is a top goalie,want be the first of them to have lost his confidence along the way,then bounced back.
I disagree. Hart isn't a very good keeper. His handling and decision-making are too poor for the Premier League.
Well everyone has their opinion.
Don't think City would have bought him and won England caps if he was a bad keeper...Lost confidence in any walk of life is difficult.
It's not lost confidence, it's decline.
You might be right Ejl,but I think its a confidence thing with him,he still young for a keeper (31),and I think he will bounce back and prove a few wrong.
He will bounce back because he is made of rubber.
Jo Hart is a definite no from me I'm afraid.
Too much baggage and a potential to destabilise the dressing room.
Re Hart. Our likely new goalkeeper was seen at Heathrow yesterday + Joka requires our GK to play from the back. Hart cannot do that which is why Pep discarded him.
I am confident we will secure the essentials of Mitro + RCB + LB. RW & squad cover will come too
COYW
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 23, 2018, 07:49:16 AM
Jo Hart is a definite no from me I'm afraid.
Too much baggage and a potential to destabilise the dressing room.
Not saying we should sign him,only defending him as I think there is still time for him to come back and be the keeper he was.
Don't understand where you get too much baggage from and he would upset the dressing room.
He's maybe a nice guy who would be excellent in the dressing room.
Just think that Pep basically didnt think he was good enough with the ball at his feet,and therefor got rid . Dont think Joka would go for him for that reason . Could be a good signing for somebody ,but then again thats what West ham thought.
Fabri wasn't at Heathrow with all those bags for nothing. He wasn't just on a quick visit.
Probably means nothing but on Football Manager 2018 Fabri is one of the best goalkeepers in passing the ball and they are quite accurate with scouting.
Obviously we don't want to be regarded as a soft touch regarding transfers in.
However if Lopez is as good as is made out would an extra few million, (can't believe the way we band these figures about!), be that bad in the grand scheme of things.
We have more to lose than 10million if we don't manage to stay up and the more attractive our football the potential for more TV appearance money?
I know it's probably a lot more complicated than that but just saying.
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If it were my money I'd be careful with it but at the end of the day you have to buy what you need.
Looks as though Malcom is off to Roma today.
Fabricio is at Motspur Park...
https://twitter.com/DannyBoyFFC/status/1021300323640635393
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Fabricio is at Motspur Park...
https://twitter.com/DannyBoyFFC/status/1021300323640635393
Good old DB, always there when you need him.
Some good news from Southampton - maybe we will get Targett
'SAINTS HAVE TO SELL TO BUY'
Mark Hughes says Southampton will have to sell players before they consider adding anyone else to their squad this summer.
Speaking to the Southern Daily Echo, Hughes said: "We will probably have to sell or allow players to go out of the club if we're likely to bring anybody in now I would think.
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Fabricio is at Motspur Park...
https://twitter.com/DannyBoyFFC/status/1021300323640635393
Good old DB, always there when you need him.
Looks a bit old and grey, Carrying a few extra pounds
Would be better off with the bloke on the right of the picture
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Fabricio is at Motspur Park...
https://twitter.com/DannyBoyFFC/status/1021300323640635393
Good old DB, always there when you need him.
Looks a bit old and grey, Carrying a few extra pounds
Would be better off with the bloke on the right of the picture
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First one of many in this week.
You camping outside motspur danny
What is happening with Fulham's move for Newcastle striker Aleksandar Mitrovic?
The striker returns from holiday this week and Fulham are hoping to conclude a deal for the 23-year-old
There are just over two weeks until the Summer Transfer Window shuts on August 9 - and the return of Aleksandar Mitrovic to Fulham is yet to be completed.
The Newcastle United striker joined the Cottagers on loan on Deadline Day in January and went on to smash in 12 goals as the club won promotion back to the Premier League via the play-offs, with a 1-0 win over Aston Villa securing their place back in the top flight.
A move that fans, manager and player alike wanted to happen was Mitrovic's return to west London, but so far that hasn't materialised due to various reasons.
With just 17 days left in the window and only two players signed ahead of next season, Fulham's recruitment drive is set to move into top gear as Tony Khan and the recruitment team look to secure their targets - and Mitrovic is one of them.
But why is it taking so long if Mitrovic and Fulham want a deal to happen?
Well, firstly, there was Mitrovic's participation in Serbia's World Cup campaign, which didn't end until June 27 when they went out at the group stage thanks to a 2-0 defeat to Brazil.
His parent club had hoped a strong competition would allow them to increase his price tag, but the 23-year-old only scored the one goal for his country.
He then headed out on holiday - but a deal should be concluded once he returns from his break, with our colleagues at Chronicle Live saying that return date is scheduled for midweek.
It's believed a deal for the striker is done between the two clubs, with Fulham paying the £20million fee to Newcastle in instalments, although a medical is still to be completed.
Meanwhile, Fulham are set to announce the signing of Besiktas keeper Fabri ahead of the new season to provide competition for Marcus Bettinelli - a deal which should also see Marek Rodak head out on loan.
https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/what-happening-fulhams-move-newcastle-14940269
Wolves are close to signing Portugal international Joao Moutinho from Monaco
Wolves are having a very good window
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Wolves are close to signing Portugal international Joao Moutinho from Monaco
Wolves are having a very good window
For £5 million too!
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Wolves are close to signing Portugal international Joao Moutinho from Monaco
Wolves are having a very good window
For £5 million too!
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He's 31 - a bit late in life to play in the PL for the first time
Quote from: Ordar on July 23, 2018, 10:31:59 AM
Wolves are close to signing Portugal international Joao Moutinho from Monaco
Wolves are having a very good window
Moutinho or Seri? Though together would be impressive...
We certainly seem to be leaving it late this window. Crossing my fingers for a few coming in this week as we still have four or five glaring holes in the squad, and a lot of the top available players have gone to our rivals who are spending like mad to stay in the division. No reason we shouldn't be competing with the likes of Wolves and West Ham for the caliber of players they've signed.
Just worried we're going to be caught short and end up having to overpay like crazy for some average players, or just end up with the scraps.
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Quote from: Ordar on July 23, 2018, 10:31:59 AM
Wolves are close to signing Portugal international Joao Moutinho from Monaco
Wolves are having a very good window
Moutinho or Seri? Though together would be impressive...
He'll be playing CM with Ruben Neves, so they're looking strong there
They've also signed Rui Patricio, Jimenez and Willy Boly as well as making Jota and Bonatini perm.
They'll be a good team this year
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Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2018, 10:57:32 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 23, 2018, 10:31:59 AM
Wolves are close to signing Portugal international Joao Moutinho from Monaco
Wolves are having a very good window
Moutinho or Seri? Though together would be impressive...
He'll be playing CM with Ruben Neves, so they're looking strong there
They've also signed Rui Patricio, Jimenez and Willy Boly as well as making Jota and Bonatini perm.
They'll be a good team this year
The Rui Patricio deal could blow up in their face though. Potential 48m if it goes Sportings way.
Quote from: Roberty on July 23, 2018, 09:40:18 AM
Some good news from Southampton - maybe we will get Targett
'SAINTS HAVE TO SELL TO BUY'
Mark Hughes says Southampton will have to sell players before they consider adding anyone else to their squad this summer.
Speaking to the Southern Daily Echo, Hughes said: "We will probably have to sell or allow players to go out of the club if we're likely to bring anybody in now I would think.
Or, they are forced to sell Bertrand and rely on Target...
Quote from: Pluto on July 23, 2018, 11:00:50 AM
We certainly seem to be leaving it late this window. Crossing my fingers for a few coming in this week as we still have four or five glaring holes in the squad, and a lot of the top available players have gone to our rivals who are spending like mad to stay in the division. No reason we shouldn't be competing with the likes of Wolves and West Ham for the caliber of players they've signed.
Just worried we're going to be caught short and end up having to overpay like crazy for some average players, or just end up with the scraps.
We cannot compete with Wolves for portuguese/portuguese based players because they are all Jorge Mendes` clients and he is basically director of football at Wolves.
West Ham do have a good transfer window but obviosly they are more established premiel league side than us, currently.
Patience, if we sign David Lopez, Sergi Gomez or Mateo Mussachio for a CB, Targett, Augustinsson or Plattenhardt for a left-back, Schurrle or Cavaleiro for a winger/forward (with Mitro and Fabri being reportedly done) we can have a very nice window too.
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Quote from: Pluto on July 23, 2018, 11:00:50 AM
We certainly seem to be leaving it late this window. Crossing my fingers for a few coming in this week as we still have four or five glaring holes in the squad, and a lot of the top available players have gone to our rivals who are spending like mad to stay in the division. No reason we shouldn't be competing with the likes of Wolves and West Ham for the caliber of players they've signed.
Just worried we're going to be caught short and end up having to overpay like crazy for some average players, or just end up with the scraps.
We cannot compete with Wolves for portuguese/portuguese based players because they are all Jorge Mendes` clients and he is basically director of football at Wolves.
West Ham do have a good transfer window but obviosly they are more established premiel league side than us, currently.
Patience, if we sign David Lopez, Sergi Gomez or Mateo Mussachio for a CB, Targett, Augustinsson or Plattenhardt for a left-back, Schurrle or Cavaleiro for a winger/forward (with Mitro and Fabri being reportedly done) we can have a very nice window too.
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Why is there talk of Lopez, surely Serri, Johansen, McDonald and Cairney should see us alright up to Christmas.
Is it not the weaker areas of centre back, left back and striker that need filling.
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Why is there talk of Lopez, surely Serri, Johansen, McDonald and Cairney should see us alright up to Christmas.
Is it not the weaker areas of centre back, left back and striker that need filling.
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So very true
Norwood on his way to Hull,wants first team football.
Dont blame him.
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Why is there talk of Lopez, surely Serri, Johansen, McDonald and Cairney should see us alright up to Christmas.
Is it not the weaker areas of centre back, left back and striker that need filling.
Lopez is a CB.
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Why is there talk of Lopez, surely Serri, Johansen, McDonald and Cairney should see us alright up to Christmas.
Is it not the weaker areas of centre back, left back and striker that need filling.
David Lopez was playing centre-back last two years.
Ian Franton,Ballymena to Dunfermline.
Well there's nothing happening here and I'm bored.
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Think we still need Mitro, another CF, a starting RW, then a cover for RW/LW. No idea what Schurrle transfer fee would be (min $15M I would imagine), but he could technically cover all three positions. So we could have Sess - Mitro - Starting RW with top three subs being Schurrle/Kamara/Kebano. If I'm greedy I would want another CF to challenge Mitro but that's hella expensive.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 23, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
Think we still need Mitro, another CF, a starting RW, then a cover for RW/LW. No idea what Schurrle transfer fee would be (min $15M I would imagine), but he could technically cover all three positions. So we could have Sess - Mitro - Starting RW with top three subs being Schurrle/Kamara/Kebano. If I'm greedy I would want another CF to challenge Mitro but that's hella expensive.
Yes. Wellbeck.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 23, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
Think we still need Mitro, another CF, a starting RW, then a cover for RW/LW. No idea what Schurrle transfer fee would be (min $15M I would imagine), but he could technically cover all three positions. So we could have Sess - Mitro - Starting RW with top three subs being Schurrle/Kamara/Kebano. If I'm greedy I would want another CF to challenge Mitro but that's hella expensive.
Janssen or Llorente from Spurs on loan would be a low cost option as backup.
I noticed that Forfar & East Fife played last night & it went to penalties. Result? Forfar 5 East Fife 4. Eric would smile at that.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 23, 2018, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 23, 2018, 07:49:16 AM
Jo Hart is a definite no from me I'm afraid.
Too much baggage and a potential to destabilise the dressing room.
Not saying we should sign him,only defending him as I think there is still time for him to come back and be the keeper he was.
Don't understand where you get too much baggage from and he would upset the dressing room.
He's maybe a nice guy who would be excellent in the dressing room.
Sorry Mince.
I don't mean upset the dressing room in that way, as I too think he's a nice guy.
What I was trying (and failing) to get at was, imo, the defensive players gain confidence knowing a confident and solid goalie is behind them.
Hart is most definitley not that at the moment, (hence the term baggage), so it could unsettle the defence imo.
hth
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? .................
Anyone else posted this? On Talksh***
https://talksport.com/football/402757/fulham-lining-up-26m-bid-for-real-sociedad-striker-willian-jose-ace-as-alternative-to-aleksandar-mitrovic/
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Why is there talk of Lopez, surely Serri, Johansen, McDonald and Cairney should see us alright up to Christmas.
Is it not the weaker areas of centre back, left back and striker that need filling.
Agreed.
Quote from: Sir Craven on July 23, 2018, 01:15:55 PM
Anyone else posted this? On Talksh***
https://talksport.com/football/402757/fulham-lining-up-26m-bid-for-real-sociedad-striker-willian-jose-ace-as-alternative-to-aleksandar-mitrovic/
No chance we sign Willian Jose, especially as an "alternative" for Mitrovic when he's supposedly done and waiting to be rubber stamped when he gets back from his holiday in the week. Wouldn't surprise me if they're just taking names from Twitter/Forums because I'm pretty sure I brought him up the other day in this thread. Can't remember what page.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2018, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on July 23, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
Think we still need Mitro, another CF, a starting RW, then a cover for RW/LW. No idea what Schurrle transfer fee would be (min $15M I would imagine), but he could technically cover all three positions. So we could have Sess - Mitro - Starting RW with top three subs being Schurrle/Kamara/Kebano. If I'm greedy I would want another CF to challenge Mitro but that's hella expensive.
Janssen or Llorente from Spurs on loan would be a low cost option as backup.
I can't see us signing two out and out target men. Think we want our RW signing to be able to play up-front as well should Mitrovic get injured/not be on form which is why we've been linked with Schurrle, Jordan Ayew etc.
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Quote from: Sir Craven on July 23, 2018, 01:15:55 PM
Anyone else posted this? On Talksh***
https://talksport.com/football/402757/fulham-lining-up-26m-bid-for-real-sociedad-striker-willian-jose-ace-as-alternative-to-aleksandar-mitrovic/
No chance we sign Willian Jose, especially as an "alternative" for Mitrovic when he's supposedly done and waiting to be rubber stamped when he gets back from his holiday in the week. Wouldn't surprise me if they're just taking names from Twitter/Forums because I'm pretty sure I brought him up the other day in this thread. Can't remember what page.
Prehaps its there for a gee up to Newcastle agree on our terms or we'll move on and youre left with a striker you dont want and no money to spend in the transfer window and leaving our manager unhappy again
2 other reports linking us with Willian Jose now. Maybe the Mitro deal has hit a snag...
FABRI IN FULHAM MEDICAL
Besiktas goalkeeper Fabri is in the process of undergoing a medical at Motspur Park ahead of completing a switch to Fulham, Sky Sports News understands.
We reported last week that the Whites were close to agreeing a deal with the Turkish club - and we understand that was done over the weekend at close to £5m.
Fabri told reporters in Turkey over the weekend that he had already agreed personal terms with the west London club too.
He said: "As you know the Premier League is a major league and one I am interested in joining. Negotiations between the two clubs are ongoing but there is a verbal agreement with Fulham. I want to thank Besiktas for my time here."
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 23, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
2 other reports linking us with Willian Jose now. Maybe the Mitro deal has hit a snag...
Though a report I just read seemed to suggest this was not as an alt to Mitro. Imagine both! We can dream. His record is excellent and he's just breaking in to the Brazil team.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 23, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
2 other reports linking us with Willian Jose now. Maybe the Mitro deal has hit a snag...
I'm guessing they're all based on the same report. The Talksport one cites the sun.
"Sky Sports News understands" otherwise known as looking at Twitter.
Looking through Twitter, apparently Fabri's sale has been announced on the Turkish Stock Market because Besiktas are a public "company".
Even have the document announcing the sale.
https://twitter.com/Besiktasliyiiz/status/1021375986233901056
Quote from: keithh on July 23, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
I noticed that Forfar & East Fife played last night & it went to penalties. Result? Forfar 5 East Fife 4. Eric would smile at that.
Wrong way
East Fife 4 Forfar 5.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 23, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
2 other reports linking us with Willian Jose now. Maybe the Mitro deal has hit a snag...
I'd like to believe it is true and that our Management are not daft enough to have no backup plan
I'd love if we did sign Willian Jose don't get me wrong. He's levels above Mitrovic and not that more expensive. I just think this is one that's been taken from thin air to try and get Fulham and Newcastle fans a bit worked up before Mitrovic is made official.
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Quote from: Jeroen on July 19, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Maybe controversial, but if a deal isn't done by Saturday I would walk away from Mitro.
Yes he did a great job for us, but was it the player or the type of player? I have no doubt that if we had a player (any other)of his calibre and style of play we would have had the same return. (don't get me wrong I looooooove him and what he did for us)
Is there a similar type of player that we can get for £20/£25M?
With all our eggs in one basket we might come out short otherwise so close to the start of the season
There'd be alternatives out there, probably for cheaper like Rondon at 16m, but I think Jokanovic wants him in and we know for a fact he suits us so he's the closest thing to a "sure thing". There's always the possibility that we have more money for a Striker than you'd think and we try and go in for another big name like Seri such as Willian Jose or someone along those lines.
Found when I brought Willian Jose up last week.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 23, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 19, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on July 19, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Maybe controversial, but if a deal isn't done by Saturday I would walk away from Mitro.
Yes he did a great job for us, but was it the player or the type of player? I have no doubt that if we had a player (any other)of his calibre and style of play we would have had the same return. (don't get me wrong I looooooove him and what he did for us)
Is there a similar type of player that we can get for £20/£25M?
With all our eggs in one basket we might come out short otherwise so close to the start of the season
There'd be alternatives out there, probably for cheaper like Rondon at 16m, but I think Jokanovic wants him in and we know for a fact he suits us so he's the closest thing to a "sure thing". There's always the possibility that we have more money for a Striker than you'd think and we try and go in for another big name like Seri such as Willian Jose or someone along those lines.
Found when I brought Willian Jose up last week.
Don't know anything about him but his stats are impressive, he also looks extremely big and powerful
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 23, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 19, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Jeroen on July 19, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Maybe controversial, but if a deal isn't done by Saturday I would walk away from Mitro.
Yes he did a great job for us, but was it the player or the type of player? I have no doubt that if we had a player (any other)of his calibre and style of play we would have had the same return. (don't get me wrong I looooooove him and what he did for us)
Is there a similar type of player that we can get for £20/£25M?
With all our eggs in one basket we might come out short otherwise so close to the start of the season
There'd be alternatives out there, probably for cheaper like Rondon at 16m, but I think Jokanovic wants him in and we know for a fact he suits us so he's the closest thing to a "sure thing". There's always the possibility that we have more money for a Striker than you'd think and we try and go in for another big name like Seri such as Willian Jose or someone along those lines.
Found when I brought Willian Jose up last week.
Don't know anything about him but his stats are impressive, he also looks extremely big and powerful
As I said in the post just above, he's pretty much a much better version of Mitrovic. Only real argument you could have for signing Mitrovic over him would be he's a couple years younger and he's already been here. If he hadn't been here last season it wouldn't even be a debate. Would love it if we did sign him, but I just can't see it (although I said the same about Seri).
Would we be able to afford both Willian Jose and Mitrovic?
I also read somewhere that Lopez has joined Espanyol in America for their pre-season trip, so this may mean we're not getting him.
Quote from: GJB on July 23, 2018, 02:18:11 PM
Would we be able to afford both Willian Jose and Mitrovic?
I also read somewhere that Lopez has joined Espanyol in America for their pre-season trip, so this may mean we're not getting him.
According to Marca, David Lopez has received an improved contract offer from Espanyol and is considering it. If he signs, I think it's safe to say that we should move on.
It's probably been said a while back on the thread, but £35m for a 29 year old in October does seem a lot of money, surely there's better value out there for a younger ball playing centre back.
Quote from: GJB on July 23, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
It's probably been said a while back on the thread, but £35m for a 29 year old in October does seem a lot of money, surely there's better value out there for a younger ball playing centre back.
Definitely. But as there's conflicting reports of how much our two offers have been (some say €10-14m, others €15-20m) and none are near the €30m Espanyol want, a deal looks unlikely to be struck either way.
Quote from: GJB on July 23, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
It's probably been said a while back on the thread, but £35m for a 29 year old in October does seem a lot of money, surely there's better value out there for a younger ball playing centre back.
I'd be surprised if we did sign him. Espanyol clearly just don't want to sell, and that's their right to do so. We won't pay the release clause and that'll be that. After the Willian Jose thing, I'll throw another two names out there for Centre-Back that we'll end up being linked with- Liam Moore and Kevin Vogt. One more realistic, the other very ambitious.
I'm sure someone will tell me but why has the Fulham official Twitter just liked Danny Ings birthday tweet?
Quote from: Dragon on July 23, 2018, 02:43:40 PM
I'm sure someone will tell me but why has the Fulham official Twitter just liked Danny Ings birthday tweet?
Would assume someone's finger just slipped while they were looking through the timeline given we're presumably following the Liverpool account.
Usually that means he's signing. Seem it like that about 83% of the time.
fabri at medical stage now
http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11681/11446336/fabri-in-fulham-medical-ahead-of-move-from-besiktas
Hearing that Alfie Mawson hasnt signed on the dotted line for Burnley yet. Lopez ,who it sounds like Slav really wants is weighing up an improved contract offer from Espanyol.
I reckon we'll have to pay miles over the odds to get him, just dont know why we dont stump up that little bit extra & get Mawson.
Hes desperate to return to London, ticks a lot boxes, young, English etc.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:26:55 PM
Hearing that Alfie Mawson hasnt signed on the dotted line for Burnley yet. Lopez ,who it sounds like Slav really wants is weighing up an improved contract offer from Espanyol.
I reckon we'll have to pay miles over the odds to get him, just dont know why we dont stump up that little bit extra & get Mawson.
Hes desperate to return to London, ticks a lot boxes, young, English etc.
Probably because Mawson had knee surgery and won't be fit for the start of the season?
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 23, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
2 other reports linking us with Willian Jose now. Maybe the Mitro deal has hit a snag...
The Mitro deal seems to have been snagged since we left Wembley.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 23, 2018, 01:54:46 PM
I'd love if we did sign Willian Jose don't get me wrong. He's levels above Mitrovic and not that more expensive. I just think this is one that's been taken from thin air to try and get Fulham and Newcastle fans a bit worked up before Mitrovic is made official.
Sure enough.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-left-sweating-aleksandar-14942598
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 23, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:26:55 PM
Hearing that Alfie Mawson hasnt signed on the dotted line for Burnley yet. Lopez ,who it sounds like Slav really wants is weighing up an improved contract offer from Espanyol.
I reckon we'll have to pay miles over the odds to get him, just dont know why we dont stump up that little bit extra & get Mawson.
Hes desperate to return to London, ticks a lot boxes, young, English etc.
Probably because Mawson had knee surgery and won't be fit for the start of the season?
Hes back in training & hopes to be ready for the start of the season
IF that's correct it's the result of their own procrastination.
Quote from: Holders on July 23, 2018, 03:41:28 PM
IF that's correct it's the result of their own procrastination.
Mitro did amazingly well for us I just hope we don't pin to much hope on him in the Prem, we ideally need two strikers this window to push each other on for a place
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 23, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:26:55 PM
Hearing that Alfie Mawson hasnt signed on the dotted line for Burnley yet. Lopez ,who it sounds like Slav really wants is weighing up an improved contract offer from Espanyol.
I reckon we'll have to pay miles over the odds to get him, just dont know why we dont stump up that little bit extra & get Mawson.
Hes desperate to return to London, ticks a lot boxes, young, English etc.
Probably because Mawson had knee surgery and won't be fit for the start of the season?
Hes back in training & hopes to be ready for the start of the season
Knees are a problem area though so I can sort of see where the club are coming from. We need any CB we buy to probably drop in and be ready to play instantly and if he's not gonna be ready or he has complications then it's a hindrance to the club. I admit I think he's a decent player that would fit in well for us, but the only thing I would say is that he's not the quickest and we play quite a high line so that might also be a factor.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 23, 2018, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 23, 2018, 03:41:28 PM
IF that's correct it's the result of their own procrastination.
Mitro did amazingly well for us I just hope we don't pin to much hope on him in the Prem, we ideally need two strikers this window to push each other on for a place
I agree, I took to the bloke and I think he took to us so I'd like to see him back but Newcastle have been playing silly b*ggers.
Willian José would be a great signing for us. He's rated very highly.
Alexander Meier (35) free agent,top scorer in Bundesliga 2015....Or is he past it?
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 23, 2018, 03:45:34 PM
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Quote from: Deeping_white on July 23, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:26:55 PM
Hearing that Alfie Mawson hasnt signed on the dotted line for Burnley yet. Lopez ,who it sounds like Slav really wants is weighing up an improved contract offer from Espanyol.
I reckon we'll have to pay miles over the odds to get him, just dont know why we dont stump up that little bit extra & get Mawson.
Hes desperate to return to London, ticks a lot boxes, young, English etc.
Probably because Mawson had knee surgery and won't be fit for the start of the season?
Hes back in training & hopes to be ready for the start of the season
Knees are a problem area though so I can sort of see where the club are coming from. We need any CB we buy to probably drop in and be ready to play instantly and if he's not gonna be ready or he has complications then it's a hindrance to the club. I admit I think he's a decent player that would fit in well for us, but the only thing I would say is that he's not the quickest and we play quite a high line so that might also be a factor.
Yea we were lucky not to sign John Carew all those years ago!!!!!
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Quote from: Deeping_white on July 23, 2018, 03:45:34 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 23, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 03:26:55 PM
Hearing that Alfie Mawson hasnt signed on the dotted line for Burnley yet. Lopez ,who it sounds like Slav really wants is weighing up an improved contract offer from Espanyol.
I reckon we'll have to pay miles over the odds to get him, just dont know why we dont stump up that little bit extra & get Mawson.
Hes desperate to return to London, ticks a lot boxes, young, English etc.
Probably because Mawson had knee surgery and won't be fit for the start of the season?
Hes back in training & hopes to be ready for the start of the season
Knees are a problem area though so I can sort of see where the club are coming from. We need any CB we buy to probably drop in and be ready to play instantly and if he's not gonna be ready or he has complications then it's a hindrance to the club. I admit I think he's a decent player that would fit in well for us, but the only thing I would say is that he's not the quickest and we play quite a high line so that might also be a factor.
Yea we were lucky not to sign John Carew all those years ago!!!!!
😂 yep, apparently due to jumpers knee?? Played another 250 games & scored about a 100 goals after he failed it
Twitter are saying Newcastle are favourites for Danny Wellbeck now
Newcastle on loan is a weird one.....Seems they can't afford him but are favourites for a loan deal.
Mitro deal is already sorted and will go aheead when he gets back from hols according to "the Mag.co.uk
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Malcom to Roma's done according to DiMarzio if anyone was still holding out hope on that one.
Quote from: colinwhite on July 23, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Mitro deal is already sorted and will go aheead when he gets back from hols according to "the Mag.co.uk
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He's back
Quote from: ollienixs on July 23, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 23, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Mitro deal is already sorted and will go aheead when he gets back from hols according to "the Mag.co.uk
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He's back
Like Reggie Perrin's mother-in-law.
A Hippo?
Willian Jose from Real Sociedad if we don@t get Mitro rumoured
Quote from: keithh on July 23, 2018, 05:24:30 PM
A Hippo?
Perhaps that is why we are slow at signings
Eleven minutes late, seasonal manpower shortages, Clapham Junction
Quote from: ollienixs on July 23, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 23, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Mitro deal is already sorted and will go aheead when he gets back from hols according to "the Mag.co.uk
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He's back
With a bang !!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 23, 2018, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 23, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 23, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Mitro deal is already sorted and will go aheead when he gets back from hols according to "the Mag.co.uk
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He's back
With a bang !!
Is that your understanding too Woolly Mammoth? You also mentioned three extras on top of expected Mitro and fabri deals.. kby next Monday I believe.. no names.. but what positions and how hopeful/guaranteed are they?
Piazon, Kalas and Tammy Abraham all played for Chelsea last night in their pre-season game and all three would be valuable players to give our squad depth if we could get them for below 20 million. They themselves must know they're unlikely to feature for Chelsea and will be looking elsewhere for potential clubs
Quote from: GJB on July 23, 2018, 06:23:15 PM
Piazon, Kalas and Tammy Abraham all played for Chelsea last night in their pre-season game and all three would be valuable players to give our squad depth if we could get them for below 20 million. They themselves must know they're unlikely to feature for Chelsea and will be looking elsewhere for potential clubs
Guessing that will drag on to allow Sarri to make a judgement on them, probably right up until the end of the window. Same for Roberts, Foden, Zinchenko et al at City. Guard Iola has specifically said he would wait late to make a decision.
Yeah I agree - fine by us if they're getting match fit, and playing with high quality squads, at least two of those three coming in the final week would be no problem as I doubt they'd be starters against Palace anyway.
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Quote from: GJB on July 23, 2018, 06:23:15 PM
Piazon, Kalas and Tammy Abraham all played for Chelsea last night in their pre-season game and all three would be valuable players to give our squad depth if we could get them for below 20 million. They themselves must know they're unlikely to feature for Chelsea and will be looking elsewhere for potential clubs
Guessing that will drag on to allow Sarri to make a judgement on them, probably right up until the end of the window. Same for Roberts, Foden, Zinchenko et al at City. Guard Iola has specifically said he would wait late to make a decision.
It's more the case of needing bodies for the Pre-Season tours when most of the 1st team are on holiday after the World Cup in both cases. Think City's whole Starting XI from last season got to the Knockout stages.
Quote from: GJB on July 23, 2018, 06:23:15 PM
Piazon, Kalas and Tammy Abraham all played for Chelsea last night in their pre-season game and all three would be valuable players to give our squad depth if we could get them for below 20 million. They themselves must know they're unlikely to feature for Chelsea and will be looking elsewhere for potential clubs
Yes, that sounds good, should get a good price buying all three in one go, and we know exactly what we are buying with Kalas and Piazon.
I don't think Piazon or Kalas are good enough for the prem. Not the first team anyway. They'd be good squad players to have. Piazon hasn't shown anything since his time here (bar a small stint before his injury) to show he's a starter in the prem. Kalas was kept out the team by Odoi last year who is also not good enough to be a starting CB. Not worried about this as we will get a good CB in and I think Ream will still be solid next year
Personally I find this constant sniping at odoi strange. He was cb in a record breaking undefeated run. Yes he made errors, but good in the air and on the ground. His errors came playing Slavs way. I thought he played really well. But hey ho we all have opinions.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
Personally I find this constant sniping at odoi strange. He was cb in a record breaking undefeated run. Yes he made errors, but good in the air and on the ground. His errors came playing Slavs way. I thought he played really well. But hey ho we all have opinions.
Agreed ......and he scored the goal that got us to Wembley and brought about the creation of The White Wall
So how long does it take for a medical? Fabri reported as being at Motsour park this morning but still no announcement......
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Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
Personally I find this constant sniping at odoi strange. He was cb in a record breaking undefeated run. Yes he made errors, but good in the air and on the ground. His errors came playing Slavs way. I thought he played really well. But hey ho we all have opinions.
Agreed ......and he scored the goal that got us to Wembley and brought about the creation of The White Wall
For a shorter bloke he jumps well and played his full part. I loved his celebration on the crossbar. I see him as a Baird/Stan Brown-type player.
Quote from: David I on July 23, 2018, 08:46:36 PM
So how long does it take for a medical? Fabri reported as being at Motsour park this morning but still no announcement......
Seri and MLM had their medicals the day before they were announced, so based on their signings wait for the Tony Khan tweet at 10am-ish tomorrow.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
Personally I find this constant sniping at odoi strange. He was cb in a record breaking undefeated run. Yes he made errors, but good in the air and on the ground. His errors came playing Slavs way. I thought he played really well. But hey ho we all have opinions.
I want to keep Odoi in and around the squad, as someone above says his versatility can mean he turns into our Chris Baird type utility player. With that said, if we start him at Centre-Back against Kane, Aguero, Firmino etc. we'll be absolutely destroyed (not to say we might not anyway). Plus he's always got a mistake in him as we saw against QPR, the Final just to name two. But as depth for RB/LB he's fine, and he'll always have a place in Fulham history for the goal against Derby.
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Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
Personally I find this constant sniping at odoi strange. He was cb in a record breaking undefeated run. Yes he made errors, but good in the air and on the ground. His errors came playing Slavs way. I thought he played really well. But hey ho we all have opinions.
I want to keep Odoi in and around the squad, as someone above says his versatility can mean he turns into our Chris Baird type utility player. With that said, if we start him at Centre-Back against Kane, Aguero, Firmino etc. we'll be absolutely destroyed (not to say we might not anyway). Plus he's always got a mistake in him as we saw against QPR, the Final just to name two. But as depth for RB/LB he's fine, and he'll always have a place in Fulham history for the goal against Derby.
And his little bit of magic off his back against Newcastle a couple of years ago.
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 23, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 23, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
Personally I find this constant sniping at odoi strange. He was cb in a record breaking undefeated run. Yes he made errors, but good in the air and on the ground. His errors came playing Slavs way. I thought he played really well. But hey ho we all have opinions.
I want to keep Odoi in and around the squad, as someone above says his versatility can mean he turns into our Chris Baird type utility player. With that said, if we start him at Centre-Back against Kane, Aguero, Firmino etc. we'll be absolutely destroyed (not to say we might not anyway). Plus he's always got a mistake in him as we saw against QPR, the Final just to name two. But as depth for RB/LB he's fine, and he'll always have a place in Fulham history for the goal against Derby.
And his little bit of magic off his back against Newcastle a couple of years ago.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FbF87WlU-oE
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 23, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on July 23, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Mitro deal is already sorted and will go aheead when he gets back from hols according to "the Mag.co.uk
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He's back
With a bang !!
Is that your understanding too Woolly Mammoth? You also mentioned three extras on top of expected Mitro and fabri deals.. kby next Monday I believe.. no names.. but what positions and how hopeful/guaranteed are they?
If I was in charge of recruitment, I could reassure you that that would be the case.
Unfortunately it's currently in the hands of others, there is a little Ground to be made on both sides to tie lose ends, nevertheless, if this fails to mature, then I would lose confidence in certain people involved.
But let's not beat ourselves up about it, our patience is being severely tested, but we have to wait , but I will be dissapointing if we have not acquired another five players by next week.
Quote from: David I on July 23, 2018, 08:46:36 PM
So how long does it take for a medical? Fabri reported as being at Motsour park this morning but still no announcement......
It's that dam cough drop that's holding things up.
Another double announcement perhaps?
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 23, 2018, 09:59:22 PM
Another double announcement perhaps?
Malcolm? 🤣
Twitter:
'Something is going down with Malcolm's transfer to Roma. He was supposed to land in Roma tonight, but Bordeaux have withdrawn authorization for his medical.. Another club involved at last minute?'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/malcoms-roma-transfer-hijacked-barcelona-12969636
Mawson might be back on
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-plan-b-transfer-newcastles-12969123?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Little bit in an article about Liverpool having a jumble sale, apparently we enquired about Mignolet but got put off by them asking for 12m.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
Mawson might be back on
Is it true he wants to be back in London over being up north? Also aren't we supposedly a few million off what Swansea want, or are they lowering their demand so they can make a sale to a team he wants to play for?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 23, 2018, 10:52:21 PM
Little bit in an article about Liverpool having a jumble sale, apparently we enquired about Mignolet but got put off by them asking for 12m.
They want £15m for Ojo, I'd love to know what they're smoking!!!!!
Quote from: mkras99 on July 23, 2018, 10:44:57 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-plan-b-transfer-newcastles-12969123?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Just filling space as usual. Any old rumour will do. It was said 10 days ago that Mitro was on holiday until 26th so even if deal has been agreed not likely to be announced before then as wouldn't be at Motspur for photo. With new sponsors club would not show him in an old shirt.
Patience is a virtue
No idea what the price would be after the World Cup, but Bournemouth who were supposedly signing Diego Laxalt are signing another Left-Back so presumably he's still be on the market.
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
Mawson might be back on
Is it true he wants to be back in London over being up north? Also aren't we supposedly a few million off what Swansea want, or are they lowering their demand so they can make a sale to a team he wants to play for?
He's desperate to return to London, if we are back in then I can only imagine we've upped our offer because as far as I know everything was agreed between Swansea & Burnley. It was just a case of him signing on the dotted line. He met Dyche Saturday & I guess hes hoping Fulham or another southern club come in for him
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 23, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
Mawson might be back on
Is it true he wants to be back in London over being up north? Also aren't we supposedly a few million off what Swansea want, or are they lowering their demand so they can make a sale to a team he wants to play for?
He's desperate to return to London, if we are back in then I can only imagine we've upped our offer because as far as I know everything was agreed between Swansea & Burnley. It was just a case of him signing on the dotted line. He met Dyche Saturday & I guess hes hoping Fulham or another southern club come in for him
Fair enough - what do Swansea want and what did we go up to initially?
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-left-sweating-aleksandar-14942598
Mitrovic surplus requirements? Or will we actually sign 2 srikers?
Quote from: The Rock on July 24, 2018, 01:31:25 AM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-left-sweating-aleksandar-14942598
Mitrovic surplus requirements? Or will we actually sign 2 srikers?
He is surplus to requirements but at the moment I think he is a pawn in the "Newcastle Civil War"
The club want Rafa to sign a new contract and have promised a reported £100m transfer kitty he does - he's stated that he want to remain at the club but so far he has turned down two offers - reportedly he wants investment in the training facilities and academy in addition to the transfer funds.
They are now involved in a war of attrition and it was reported last week that even if they sell players Rafa will not get all of the money to invest in new players and none of the £100m unless he signs on the dotted line.
Newcastle have been publicly for sale for at least two years and are totally dysfunctional, so is it any surprise that this has been going on so long. My main surprise is that Rafa, who is not an also ran in the manager stakes, has put up with it for so long.
In the circumstances it is now time for FFC to inflict some pain and look elsewhere - it is a gamble as to if we need Mitro more than they need our money or is there a fairy godmother who is going to buy him if we drop out
The most important consideration would be if SJ is going to be happy to have Willian Jose or an alternative to Mitro?
If he is happy to have him or an alternative then now is the time to take the gloves off and squeeze Lee Charnley's wedding tackle.
I think we could probably afford two strikers - but does SJ have a playing formation to make good use of them both?
According to bbc this morning we have bid 26 mill for Jose.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2018, 04:52:48 AM
According to bbc this morning we have bid 26 mill for Jose.
I have just seen that.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 24, 2018, 05:17:08 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2018, 04:52:48 AM
According to bbc this morning we have bid 26 mill for Jose.
I have just seen that.
I don't think it's "according to BBC" though. It's on the gossips page and it merely quotes The Sun.
Quote from: AllyWhite on July 24, 2018, 06:30:19 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 24, 2018, 05:17:08 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2018, 04:52:48 AM
According to bbc this morning we have bid 26 mill for Jose.
I have just seen that.
I don't think it's "according to BBC" though. It's on the gossips page and it merely quotes The Sun.
I saw it on gossip page,this mitro saga just goes in and out,wierd!
Also Palace looking at Mitro now.
Funny in a sort of way he goes and lines up against us first game after all this carry on.
Now that's Fulhamish.....😵
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 24, 2018, 07:36:44 AM
Also Palace looking at Mitro now.
Funny in a sort of way he goes and lines up against us first game after all this carry on.
Now that's Fulhamish.....😵
This is old news - had been repeated several times since the last season
Everything is old news; just wish we had new news.
How inept are we at transfer negotiations? Its like we've employed Gil from the Simpsons to be in charge of transfers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOix4B5OaF4
Homer has to take some of the blame.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 08:23:29 AM
How inept are we at transfer negotiations? Its like we've employed Gil from the Simpsons to be in charge of transfers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOix4B5OaF4
How do you know we're inept? This is something that always crops up, but I'm intrigued as to why it's always FFC that are allegedly at fault according to some, when there are at least three parties involved in any transfer? Bearing in mind the number of incomings and outgoings in the last two years, we can't be that negotiating else we'd have never signed anyone...
There are 15 big days coming up for Fulham FC before the Transfer Window closes.
After it has closed. Hire a Master Window Cleaner round to polish it, and then look through it, and tell me what you see.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
There are 15 big days coming up for Fulham FC before the Transfer Window closes.
After it has closed. Hire a Master Window Cleaner round to polish it, and then look through it, and tell me what you see.
Very cryptic and it fills me with hope (foolish hope perhaps, but hope nevertheless)
Quote from: Jeroen on July 24, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
There are 15 big days coming up for Fulham FC before the Transfer Window closes.
After it has closed. Hire a Master Window Cleaner round to polish it, and then look through it, and tell me what you see.
Very cryptic and it fills me with hope (foolish hope perhaps, but hope nevertheless)
Lets be honest... No one actually knows what is going on with transfers to FFC apart from the recruitment team. We just need to be patient and wait for some news. I guess 2 weeks is quite a long time in the world of transfer windows so there is still a long way to go.
Two weeks to get about five players in as a minimum. For a side who has just been promoted that is absolute lunacy.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 10:02:13 AM
Two weeks to get about five players in as a minimum. For a side who has just been promoted that is absolute lunacy.
Are we geared up to handle signings at that rate, medicals, paper work, etc.
I'm delighted that we're constantly being linked with a much higher quality of player than I was expecting, (and I'm super excited for Seri), we seem to be struggling with getting the deals over the line.
Its been said by several current and former players, that Joka's system takes a while to learn and get used to. We probably need 4 first team starters at the very minimum (CB,LB,RW,ST) all of who need to learn their roles in the system. It worrys me that we're more than likely going to have a slow start to the season again. I would suggest that a least 3 of those positions need signing this week to at least have a proper week of training in the new system. And even then, our squad is incredibly thin, we cant be relying on unproven youth players to carry us to January, especially with how inexperienced our current players are with Premier League football.
I guess if we get one in today (Fabri), then its 4 in 2 weeks which doesnt sounds quite so bad. Feel as though we need a starting RB though. Not sure having our back up rightback from the championship being a starter in the Premiership is a great idea! So maybe we need 6 minimum.
Mitro,
Fabri
Another backup Striker,
Starting RB
Starting RW
CB
Hmm... Maybe it is lunacy to leave this so late....
Quote from: jelmo on July 24, 2018, 09:55:23 AM
Quote from: Jeroen on July 24, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
There are 15 big days coming up for Fulham FC before the Transfer Window closes.
After it has closed. Hire a Master Window Cleaner round to polish it, and then look through it, and tell me what you see.
Very cryptic and it fills me with hope (foolish hope perhaps, but hope nevertheless)
Lets be honest... No one actually knows what is going on with transfers to FFC apart from the recruitment team. We just need to be patient and wait for some news. I guess 2 weeks is quite a long time in the world of transfer windows so there is still a long way to go.
How do you know that the Recruitment team know any more than we do. They could still be on their summer holidays. What makes you think they know any more than anyone else.
We have no choice but to be patient, there is no other option.
I hope this Recruitment Team remember, when the Transfer Window is closed and bolted on the inside with security locks.
In those immortal words of the one and only Chris Farlow, " Your Out Of Time " 🎼🎼
Quote from: filham on July 24, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 10:02:13 AM
Two weeks to get about five players in as a minimum. For a side who has just been promoted that is absolute lunacy.
Are we geared up to handle signings at that rate, medicals, paper work, etc.
I hope someone has fixed the fax machine.
I would think the Mitro deal is agreed and just waiting to be signed.
Press speculation throw up all sorts of alternatives otherwise there would be no football 'news'!!
With us needing at least 2 players for every position I wouldn't think it implausible that Jose is a target as well as Mitro, just think one replacing the other as sub, would unnerve many a defence.
A lot of these deals I should think will have been being negotiated for awhile and I am confident that Slav will have a team to challenge for top 10 come the season.
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Quote from: jelmo on July 24, 2018, 10:10:05 AM
I guess if we get one in today (Fabri), then its 4 in 2 weeks which doesnt sounds quite so bad. Feel as though we need a starting RB though. Not sure having our back up rightback from the championship being a starter in the Premiership is a great idea! So maybe we need 6 minimum.
Mitro,
Fabri
Another backup Striker,
Starting RB
Starting RW
CB
Hmm... Maybe it is lunacy to leave this so late....
I make it five in addition to Fabri.
CB
LB
Another mid
A wide right player
Striker.
That is the bare minimum.
Quote from: Stevieboy on July 24, 2018, 10:23:41 AM
I would think the Mitro deal is agreed and just waiting to be signed.
Press speculation throw up all sorts of alternatives otherwise there would be no football 'news'!!
With us needing at least 2 players for every position I wouldn't think it implausible that Jose is a target as well as Mitro, just think one replacing the other as sub, would unnerve many a defence.
A lot of these deals I should think will have been being negotiated for awhile and I am confident that Slav will have a team to challenge for top 10 come the season.
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I sincerely hope you are right, but is Slav confident ?
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 24, 2018, 10:10:05 AM
I guess if we get one in today (Fabri), then its 4 in 2 weeks which doesnt sounds quite so bad. Feel as though we need a starting RB though. Not sure having our back up rightback from the championship being a starter in the Premiership is a great idea! So maybe we need 6 minimum.
Mitro,
Fabri
Another backup Striker,
Starting RB
Starting RW
CB
Hmm... Maybe it is lunacy to leave this so late....
I make it five in addition to Fabri.
CB
LB
Another mid
A wide right player
Striker.
That is the bare minimum.
I'd like a right back too unless Odoi will be switching back out there. I'm just not that sold on Christie at all.
It been 2 weeks and 4 days since our last signings.
Who are these 4/5 players signed.
Have I missed something.
Maxime and Seri and erm..........??????
Because the website only confirms 2 in the whole of the Window, or is there a hole in the window.
Then that's six. But all I see are stories about us possibly paying the world for a CB who has never played in the Prem League.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 10:34:10 AM
It been 2 weeks and 4 days since our last signings.
Who are these 4/5 players signed.
Have I missed something.
Maxime and Seri and erm..........??????
didn't we sign a couple of kids?
Quote from: fulhamben on July 24, 2018, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 10:34:10 AM
It been 2 weeks and 4 days since our last signings.
Who are these 4/5 players signed.
Have I missed something.
Maxime and Seri and erm..........??????
didn't we sign a couple of kids?
Ben, I am talking about players that will be playing in the first team on a regular basis in the Premier League this coming season, or at least will be in the Squad.
Some kid who has to go and join the Singaporean army for two years. Are we counting him?
We may have to.
Please tell me Gayle as plan B for Mitro is paper nonsense.....
With new signings historically taking a while to learn Slav's system (look at the start of last season) my only hope is that we sign 4-5 new starters but that we also get the loans from last year that can play whilst the others are getting up to speed.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 10:46:30 AM
Please tell me Gayle as plan B for Mitro is paper nonsense.....
different type of player who doesn't score enough fakenews
Quote from: hovewhite on July 24, 2018, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 10:46:30 AM
Please tell me Gayle as plan B for Mitro is paper nonsense.....
different type of player who doesn't score enough fakenews
Exactly my thinking. Just stunned so many papers are running with it.
This is like a tube of toothpaste pushing the paste to the top and then releasing the cap, and we will see a profusion of new players come tumbling out, I hope.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 11:05:42 AM
This is like a tube of toothpaste pushing the paste to the top and then releasing the cap, and we will see a profusion of new players come tumbling out, I hope.
When is that news coming wolly? You said 48hrs
We got a weaker squad then we did in the Championship, not good!
Seri must be nervous. I bet he was sold on the fact that a bunch of high profile signings would be made.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 11:37:48 AM
Seri must be nervous. I bet he was sold on the fact that a bunch of high profile signings would be made.
He's probably smart enough to realise the transfer window has time to run and that we will sign what we need...
There really is no need to panic yet. Cautious, yes but I won';t be worrying about our squad until the window shuts. It would of been nice to have a full squad for pre season but the transfer window doesn't work like that.....which is stupid to me but hey.
With Fulham we might as well start this topic the last 7 days of the window.
Maybe the reason for taking so long over mitrovic is that we're getting in a replacement first, and then buying him from Newcastle so he'd be cheaper?? Although that would be very unlikely....
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 11:26:46 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 11:05:42 AM
This is like a tube of toothpaste pushing the paste to the top and then releasing the cap, and we will see a profusion of new players come tumbling out, I hope.
When is that news coming wolly? You said 48hrs
With your permission alienix, If I may refer you to my previous emails on Sunday. I did state at least 48 hours, and then in and around next Monday, give or take, allowing of course for the unpredictable movements of the club in times like this.
Mitro is not back in the UK till tomorrow. He has to have a medical which is obligatory & physically sign the documents. If he has not signed by Friday then I would be worried.
Quote from: Tex on July 24, 2018, 12:25:11 PM
Maybe the reason for taking so long over mitrovic is that we're getting in a replacement first, and then buying him from Newcastle so he'd be cheaper?? Although that would be very unlikely....
A cunning plan, and I like it.
If this is how it's going to be every transfer window, PLEASE Fulham don't waste 6 figure sums taking our painfully thin squads abroad to be smashed.
As many friendly's as you like behind closed doors and spend the money saved on a third choice keeper (or bringing back concessionary prices for over 65's!!)
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2018, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 11:37:48 AM
Seri must be nervous. I bet he was sold on the fact that a bunch of high profile signings would be made.
Was thinking the same thing, then I checked and his team lost 5-0 to Lyon last season so maybe coming here and losing 4-0 will still feel like a small step up for him. He must also be delighted at the huge amounts of space our players have on the team coach and in the dressing room, given that there only 8 of them.
I thought we'd agreed there were 15 a few pages back...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 24, 2018, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2018, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 11:37:48 AM
Seri must be nervous. I bet he was sold on the fact that a bunch of high profile signings would be made.
Was thinking the same thing, then I checked and his team lost 5-0 to Lyon last season so maybe coming here and losing 4-0 will still feel like a small step up for him. He must also be delighted at the huge amounts of space our players have on the team coach and in the dressing room, given that there only 8 of them.
I thought we'd agreed there were 15 a few pages back...
14 are small and only count half each
With Fabri having been here a couple of days and supposedly had a medical and been seen at Motspur
and no confirmation even of his signing on the official site, it's no wonder that we don't hear about any other activity.
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Although the transfer window closes here on August 9th, I think I am right in saying that it's 'business as usual' across the rest of Europe: i.e. the window runs until the end of the month.
In my view, this makes it even more likely that we will end up doing a number of our dealings in the final week as nearly all of the players we are being linked with currently play abroad. Whereas, in previous years, clubs selling players as the deadline approached might have to allow themselves enough time to re-invest in a purchase of their own, this time around, European clubs can go 'to the wire' with English clubs, knowing that once the window shuts, they (the European clubs) will still have three weeks to finalise their dealings - ample time to snare their targets.
One person's 'source' seemingly said there would be an influx of players this week. Maybe there will be. My guess, for what it's worth, is that, if there is ever to be an influx at all, it will be in the final week and that this week's predicted stampede is no less of a guess than mine.
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 12:29:53 PM
Mitro is not back in the UK till tomorrow. He has to have a medical which is obligatory & physically sign the documents. If he has not signed by Friday then I would be worried.
Someone with common sense. Said days ago Mitro not back until 26th. Most on this board seem to expect us to fly out to his holiday resort to get the obligatory photo for his signing. Patience is a virtue.
It just keeps getting better. Just read we got told to stump up 45mill for Willian. You cant make this sh!t up.
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/24/do-report-fulham-told-to-raise-bid-by-20m-to-sign-willian-jose/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday&__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: the nutflush on July 24, 2018, 12:51:41 PM
It just keeps getting better. Just read we got told to stump up 45mill for Willian. You cant make this sh!t up.
???
What do you mean "You cant make this sh!t up".....I think that's all I've been reading about the last few weeks 092.gif 086.gif
Well it might start hitting the fan, if we dont end up signing enough quality players to stand our ground in the Premier League.
The goalkeeper had the medical yesterday morning and has signed...The club released the carrier pigeon with the news,but apparently it met up with some of its pals at Trafalgar Square and was last seen being hand fed by an old lady....Coyw
Did he pass the cough drop ? ..... the Goalkeeper I mean.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 24, 2018, 01:51:00 PM
The goalkeeper had the medical yesterday morning and has signed...The club released the carrier pigeon with the news,but apparently it met up with some of its pals at Trafalgar Square and was last seen being hand fed by an old lady....Coyw
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Awesome, we may have signed another keeper. Useful, but hardly the greatest area of weakness.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-persuading-fulham-sign-player-cottagers-make-irresistible-offer/
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-persuading-fulham-sign-player-cottagers-make-irresistible-offer/
I cant open at work, who is it?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-persuading-fulham-sign-player-cottagers-make-irresistible-offer/
I cant open at work, who is it?
David Lopez, the cb.
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-persuading-fulham-sign-player-cottagers-make-irresistible-offer/
Well if Fulhams offer has been derisory and insulting, but Espanyol would say that anyway.
However, then it may help the player succeed in getting a better deal with Espanyol, and Fulham walk away empty handed.
No wonder Jok walks around with a long face.
On the other hand, if Jok succeeds in orchestrating the club to make them a more attractive offer, then we have a result.
He obviously values the player more than the Recruitment Department, nevertheless this could have a happy ending.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-persuading-fulham-sign-player-cottagers-make-irresistible-offer/
Well if Fulhams offer has been derisory and insulting, but Espanyol would say that anyway.
However, then it may help the player succeed in getting a better deal with Espanyol, and Fulham walk away empty handed.
No wonder Jok walks around with a long face.
On the other hand, if Jok succeeds in orchestrating the club to make them a more attractive offer, then we have a result.
He obviously values the player more than the Recruitment Department, nevertheless this could have a happy ending.
I read before that Lopez is apparently unhappy with Espanyol over 'unkept promises'. I'm not sure what exactly but I think this could be the reason for the low offers - if we unsettle him enough we could get ourselves a good deal. Have a feeling this one will go down to the wire.
I don't get the same feeling that it is like Barrios where he was just using the offers to negotiate a better contract with Boca.
Quote from: FFC NY on July 24, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2018, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 24, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/jokanovic-persuading-fulham-sign-player-cottagers-make-irresistible-offer/
Well if Fulhams offer has been derisory and insulting, but Espanyol would say that anyway.
However, then it may help the player succeed in getting a better deal with Espanyol, and Fulham walk away empty handed.
No wonder Jok walks around with a long face.
On the other hand, if Jok succeeds in orchestrating the club to make them a more attractive offer, then we have a result.
He obviously values the player more than the Recruitment Department, nevertheless this could have a happy ending.
I read before that Lopez is apparently unhappy with Espanyol over 'unkept promises'. I'm not sure what exactly but I think this could be the reason for the low offers - if we unsettle him enough we could get ourselves a good deal. Have a feeling this one will go down to the wire.
I don't get the same feeling that it is like Barrios where he was just using the offers to negotiate a better contract with Boca.
Fair enough, lets hope Fulham get their way, I am sure the club will do their best. He would be a good addition, and the kind of quality we are looking for.
Quote from: FFC NY on July 24, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
I read before that Lopez is apparently unhappy with Espanyol over 'unkept promises'. I'm not sure what exactly but I think this could be the reason for the low offers - if we unsettle him enough we could get ourselves a good deal. Have a feeling this one will go down to the wire.
I don't get the same feeling that it is like Barrios where he was just using the offers to negotiate a better contract with Boca.
As long as we don't stop looking at other options - it cost nothing to make a bid
If he has a 45m buy out clause they must be taking the Michael
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Fabri has signed official
minces pidgeon must have got through.
Well done to the recruitment team in signing Fabri. Who will be our No. 1 GK?
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 04:20:44 PM
Well done to the recruitment team in signing Fabri. Who will be our No. 1 GK?
You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2 put it that way
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 04:20:44 PM
Well done to the recruitment team in signing Fabri. Who will be our No. 1 GK?
I would expect that Betts will start but any drop off in form and Fabri would step in. Healthy competition.
Useful addition to the squad. Now can we please fill the positions that are the real priorities?
Zero chance that Betts starts the season as number 1. For the same reasons that wheelerdeeler stated:
"You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2"
Quote from: Twig on July 24, 2018, 04:26:05 PM
Useful addition to the squad. Now can we please fill the positions that are the real priorities?
Agree with this post!
LB and RCB are key, key positions that (Mitro aside) are vital.
Quote from: Statto on July 24, 2018, 04:35:52 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 24, 2018, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 04:20:44 PM
Well done to the recruitment team in signing Fabri. Who will be our No. 1 GK?
You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2 put it that way
minded to agree with you for once
although Betts has previous when it comes to fighting his way into the team when others were preferred ahead of him, and if Fabri strings 2-3 poor performances together, Betts will take that spot back i'm sure
also think some on this forum attach far too much significance to someone being a "champions league player". Cork City have a whole squad of champions league players but some of them would struggle to get into a league two team
While you are right, I'd only call someone a "Champions League player" if they've played in the Groups or beyond i.e. the actual competition.
Fabri is certainly coming in as number 1. Betts was amazing in getting us promoted a bit like Maik Taylor but ultimately the club upgraded with VDS. No different this time
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 04:20:44 PM
Well done to the recruitment team in signing Fabri. Who will be our No. 1 GK?
Bearing in mind that our GK coach has had a year of looking at Betts and then gone and recommended to the club we sign Fabri, to me shows that he rates Fabri higher and as a result probably means that he'll start as #1 and Betts will be backup until he's given a chance to prove otherwise.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/agent-meet-current-club-today-fulham-continue-press-transfer/
An amusing side to this transfer seems that we've caused some friction between the player and club as he's not getting paid what he was promised so maybe our financial firepower swings this one in our favour
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 24, 2018, 04:48:18 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/agent-meet-current-club-today-fulham-continue-press-transfer/
An amusing side to this transfer seems that we've caused some friction between the player and club as he's not getting paid what he was promised so maybe our financial firepower swings this one in our favour
who knows how long this transfer or not will run,could still be going on in January window.
Krul's gone to Norwich. Another one bites the dust. between losing out on Plea, Krul, Rolan and Malcolm, its hard to justify our lack ambition at the moment.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
Krul's gone to Norwich. Another one bites the dust. between losing out on Plea, Krul, Rolan and Malcolm, its hard to justify our lack ambition at the moment.
Ummmm.... we just signed Fabri..?
Fabri > Krul
Fabri a very good signing and an upgrade. Can't believe Mitro will not be with us soon. Right sided centre back now a priority. Left back and right sided striker next priority. Then squad fillers. I think we are well covered at right back. If we don't get a left full back we can rotate Sess and Max so that is not a massive priority. Centre back is...where have I heard that before !
Quote from: FFC NY on July 24, 2018, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
Krul's gone to Norwich. Another one bites the dust. between losing out on Plea, Krul, Rolan and Malcolm, its hard to justify our lack ambition at the moment.
Ummmm.... we just signed Fabri..?
Fabri > Krul
+1 big time. We signed someone significantly better, and timings of both announcements makes it seem as if maybe Krul was out backup option if we didn't sign Fabri?
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Fulhamfc offering £16m for Mitro while #Newcastle want £18m #FFC #NUFC
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11447492/fulham-and-newcastle-still-2m-apart-in-potential-deal-for-aleksandar-mitrovic
I'd of thought the very mention of Rolan was enough to confirm /s on my comment.....
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Fulhamfc offering £16m for Mitro while #Newcastle want £18m #FFC #NUFC
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11447492/fulham-and-newcastle-still-2m-apart-in-potential-deal-for-aleksandar-mitrovic
I know some will say we're being tight etc. but it makes perfect sense if you think about it. Newcastle need to sell to buy, they want Rondon as the replacement for Mitrovic, Rondon's release clause is 16m so we don't want to pay more for Mitrovic than Newcastle will for Rondon.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 24, 2018, 05:24:52 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Fulhamfc offering £16m for Mitro while #Newcastle want £18m #FFC #NUFC
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11447492/fulham-and-newcastle-still-2m-apart-in-potential-deal-for-aleksandar-mitrovic
I know some will say we're being tight etc. but it makes perfect sense if you think about it. Newcastle need to sell to buy, they want Rondon as the replacement for Mitrovic, Rondon's release clause is 16m so we don't want to pay more for Mitrovic than Newcastle will for Rondon.
I'm not too bothered if this is a late deal. Mitro can slot in quickly. I am much more concerned about the other 4 (or so) signings that we urgently need to make.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Fulhamfc offering £16m for Mitro while #Newcastle want £18m #FFC #NUFC
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11447492/fulham-and-newcastle-still-2m-apart-in-potential-deal-for-aleksandar-mitrovic
£17m? So poor old Mitro doesn't need to suffer a few days of NUFC training with this big cloud over his head?
Im more worried about the fact mitro has been on the sauce in Marbella or wherever for the last month!
I thought the Mitro deal was done & dusted at £20 mil & personal terms agreed. Just waiting for him to return to the UK for medical & signing documents. I don´t believe we have gone back with a lower offer.
If Welbeck has a 16m price tag on his head then 16m for Mitro is doing Newcastle a favour.
Quote from: Luka on July 24, 2018, 05:55:49 PM
If Welbeck has a 16m price tag on his head then 16m for Mitro is doing Newcastle a favour.
Eh?
I think Welbecks overrated personally. Mitrovic is the future!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
Krul's gone to Norwich. Another one bites the dust. between losing out on Plea, Krul, Rolan and Malcolm, its hard to justify our lack ambition at the moment.
Are we/were we ever interested in these players?? Krul maybe but we have a better keeper than him now.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 24, 2018, 05:24:24 PM
I'd of thought the very mention of Rolan was enough to confirm /s on my comment.....
Lol whoops, I did think you'd been on the sauce mentioning Rolan!
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Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 05:48:33 PM
I thought the Mitro deal was done & dusted at £20 mil & personal terms agreed. Just waiting for him to return to the UK for medical & signing documents. I don´t believe we have gone back with a lower offer.
There was no agreement with Newcastle - just with Mitro
Newcastle would like to take TK's trousers down and spank his bottom - sadly for them - they need to sell more than we need to buy - we have the cash to move on to someone else - they don't have two pennies to rub together
In any event he was worth bugger all before he played for us so 16m is a good premium for them
As W C Fields said - never give a sucker and even break
From Sky
MORE FUNDS FOR RAFA?
An MP has launched a Parliamentary petition calling on Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley to invest in the club - saying Rafa Benitez needs more support from the man at the top.
Chi Onwurah, Labour MP for Newcastle Central and a lifelong Magpies fan, is raising the issue of the Sports Direct tycoon's stewardship of the Premier League side which she perceives to be failing manager Rafa Benitez.
Her action follows a separate fan-led online petition titled If Rafa Goes I Go where supporters threaten to withdraw from the club if Benitez is not satisfactorily backed by the owner.
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 05:48:33 PM
I thought the Mitro deal was done & dusted at £20 mil & personal terms agreed. Just waiting for him to return to the UK for medical & signing documents. I don´t believe we have gone back with a lower offer.
We can only be described as going back with a lower offer if we offered a higher figure in the first place - which I doubt in all the circumstances. If we'd offered £20m I'd imagine NUFC would have grabbed the cheque and gone shopping.
I'm struggling to see how our recruitment team can be seen as lacking in ambition?
Malcom has gone to Barcelona, after being prized away at the last minute from signing for Champions League competing Roma - surely that's ambitious in itself that we even considered we could sign him when clubs of that quality were also going for him. We have bettered Tim Krul with the Fabri signing. Plea shrugged off every Premier League club and ended up at Borussia Munchengladbach, which suggests he didn't desire to play in England. Rolan has ended up at Deportivo La Coruna after only scoring 5 goals last season who ended 16th in La Liga, which suggests his quality isn't that high.
So far the players we have signed have Europa league and Champions League experience, which in my eyes shows enough ambition that is necessary for a recently promoted side.
The speed of signings appears to be more of an issue than ambition. In fact, maybe it's our ambition that has stopped us signing more players at this point?
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 05:48:33 PM
I thought the Mitro deal was done & dusted at £20 mil & personal terms agreed. Just waiting for him to return to the UK for medical & signing documents. I don´t believe we have gone back with a lower offer.
I catch your drift, grandad, and subscribe to the 'Don't believe anything you are told about transfers anywhere other than on the official site', because you'll only be disappointed otherwise.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Fulhamfc offering £16m for Mitro while #Newcastle want £18m #FFC #NUFC
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11447492/fulham-and-newcastle-still-2m-apart-in-potential-deal-for-aleksandar-mitrovic
If this is the case, and we are bidding 26m for the Willian fellow with Mitro already on the cusp, then it appears we are looking for 2 versatile target strikers, and that would be massive.
We are in for Oğuz Kağan Güçtekin according to Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5987129/Fulham-monitoring-Turkey-19-captain-Oguz-Kagan-Guctekin.html
As the Mitro saga drags on it is now reported that we are 2m adrift from Newcastle's valuation.
It seems reasonable to summise that the supposed 16m we want to pay was to his value when we took him on loan.
As, thankfully, he didn't light up the World Cup and is not proven in the PL I think this valuation is still reasonable.
The fact that we want him probably lit up the £££ signs in Mike Ashley's eyes!!
However in the grand scheme of things in the mad world of transfers what is 2m....probably just goes into the losses for the season.
It's either a done deal or the 'facts' that are being reported are wildly inaccurate (as if 064.gif)
Quote from: Tabby on July 24, 2018, 06:34:05 PM
We are in for Oğuz Kağan Güçtekin according to Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5987129/Fulham-monitoring-Turkey-19-captain-Oguz-Kagan-Guctekin.html
Can anyone tell me who this is?
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The one signing I am waiting for is Slavisa Jokanovic.
I would be happy to see the club announce a new 3 year deal, based on Premiership goals for him and the team. If I was Ryan Sessignon or Mitro I would probably want to see that deal done before I agreed to my new deal. But maybe Slavisa is waiting to see the progress of signings and therefore being given the tools to do the job before he signs? His existing deal runs through the end of the coming season, if (and thats a big if) it has a promotion kicker to his salary then arguably he does not need to get a new deal. I remember his frustration with Watford and the Pozzo's not giving him what he thought was the right deal after getting them promoted, he walked then and I would not want him to do it again.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 24, 2018, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 24, 2018, 06:34:05 PM
We are in for Oğuz Kağan Güçtekin according to Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5987129/Fulham-monitoring-Turkey-19-captain-Oguz-Kagan-Guctekin.html
Can anyone tell me who this is?
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Turkish u19 DM. Has had a few outings for Fenerbahce.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/oguz-kagan-guctekin/profil/spieler/352718
(https://www.transfermarkt.com/oguz-kagan-guctekin/profil/spieler/352718)
Quote from: Roberty on July 24, 2018, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 05:48:33 PM
I thought the Mitro deal was done & dusted at £20 mil & personal terms agreed. Just waiting for him to return to the UK for medical & signing documents. I don´t believe we have gone back with a lower offer.
There was no agreement with Newcastle - just with Mitro
Newcastle would like to take TK's trousers down and spank his bottom - sadly for them - they need to sell more than we need to buy - we have the cash to move on to someone else - they don't have two pennies to rub together
In any event he was worth bugger all before he played for us so 16m is a good premium for them
As W C Fields said - never give a sucker and even break
From Sky
MORE FUNDS FOR RAFA?
An MP has launched a Parliamentary petition calling on Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley to invest in the club - saying Rafa Benitez needs more support from the man at the top.
Chi Onwurah, Labour MP for Newcastle Central and a lifelong Magpies fan, is raising the issue of the Sports Direct tycoon's stewardship of the Premier League side which she perceives to be failing manager Rafa Benitez.
Her action follows a separate fan-led online petition titled If Rafa Goes I Go where supporters threaten to withdraw from the club if Benitez is not satisfactorily backed by the owner.
Is this seriously what we pay our MPs for? With all the problems we have with Brexit and the NHS I find this disgusting .
Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
I'm struggling to see how our recruitment team can be seen as lacking in ambition?
Malcom has gone to Barcelona, after being prized away at the last minute from signing for Champions League competing Roma - surely that's ambitious in itself that we even considered we could sign him when clubs of that quality were also going for him. We have bettered Tim Krul with the Fabri signing. Plea shrugged off every Premier League club and ended up at Borussia Munchengladbach, which suggests he didn't desire to play in England. Rolan has ended up at Deportivo La Coruna after only scoring 5 goals last season who ended 16th in La Liga, which suggests his quality isn't that high.
So far the players we have signed have Europa league and Champions League experience, which in my eyes shows enough ambition that is necessary for a recently promoted side.
The speed of signings appears to be more of an issue than ambition. In fact, maybe it's our ambition that has stopped us signing more players at this point?
Bang on!
Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
I'm struggling to see how our recruitment team can be seen as lacking in ambition?
Malcom has gone to Barcelona, after being prized away at the last minute from signing for Champions League competing Roma - surely that's ambitious in itself that we even considered we could sign him when clubs of that quality were also going for him. We have bettered Tim Krul with the Fabri signing. Plea shrugged off every Premier League club and ended up at Borussia Munchengladbach, which suggests he didn't desire to play in England. Rolan has ended up at Deportivo La Coruna after only scoring 5 goals last season who ended 16th in La Liga, which suggests his quality isn't that high.
So far the players we have signed have Europa league and Champions League experience, which in my eyes shows enough ambition that is necessary for a recently promoted side.
The speed of signings appears to be more of an issue than ambition. In fact, maybe it's our ambition that has stopped us signing more players at this point?
Well said
Quote from: Jem on July 24, 2018, 07:08:14 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 24, 2018, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 24, 2018, 05:48:33 PM
I thought the Mitro deal was done & dusted at £20 mil & personal terms agreed. Just waiting for him to return to the UK for medical & signing documents. I don´t believe we have gone back with a lower offer.
There was no agreement with Newcastle - just with Mitro
Newcastle would like to take TK's trousers down and spank his bottom - sadly for them - they need to sell more than we need to buy - we have the cash to move on to someone else - they don't have two pennies to rub together
In any event he was worth bugger all before he played for us so 16m is a good premium for them
As W C Fields said - never give a sucker and even break
From Sky
MORE FUNDS FOR RAFA?
An MP has launched a Parliamentary petition calling on Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley to invest in the club - saying Rafa Benitez needs more support from the man at the top.
Chi Onwurah, Labour MP for Newcastle Central and a lifelong Magpies fan, is raising the issue of the Sports Direct tycoon's stewardship of the Premier League side which she perceives to be failing manager Rafa Benitez.
Her action follows a separate fan-led online petition titled If Rafa Goes I Go where supporters threaten to withdraw from the club if Benitez is not satisfactorily backed by the owner.
Is this seriously what we pay our MPs for? With all the problems we have with Brexit and the NHS I find this disgusting .
I read this today and felt exactly the same way. It left a pretty sour taste in the mouth. They have far far more Important things to do then start a petition in Parliament for what I think is a 'hobbie' - (supporting a football team)
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 24, 2018, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
I'm struggling to see how our recruitment team can be seen as lacking in ambition?
Malcom has gone to Barcelona, after being prized away at the last minute from signing for Champions League competing Roma - surely that's ambitious in itself that we even considered we could sign him when clubs of that quality were also going for him. We have bettered Tim Krul with the Fabri signing. Plea shrugged off every Premier League club and ended up at Borussia Munchengladbach, which suggests he didn't desire to play in England. Rolan has ended up at Deportivo La Coruna after only scoring 5 goals last season who ended 16th in La Liga, which suggests his quality isn't that high.
So far the players we have signed have Europa league and Champions League experience, which in my eyes shows enough ambition that is necessary for a recently promoted side.
The speed of signings appears to be more of an issue than ambition. In fact, maybe it's our ambition that has stopped us signing more players at this point?
Well said
lol the ambition comment was clearly sarcasm.....I even quoted Rolan and said it about Krul after we signed Fabri.....come on gents lets not ride this horse for all its worth
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
Zero chance that Betts starts the season as number 1. For the same reasons that wheelerdeeler stated:
"You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2"
You may be right Ordar, but in my eyes that would be a shame. It should be a real competition, and I thought Betts played really well second half of last year. He should be the starter with Fabri to prove himself.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 24, 2018, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
I'm struggling to see how our recruitment team can be seen as lacking in ambition?
Malcom has gone to Barcelona, after being prized away at the last minute from signing for Champions League competing Roma - surely that's ambitious in itself that we even considered we could sign him when clubs of that quality were also going for him. We have bettered Tim Krul with the Fabri signing. Plea shrugged off every Premier League club and ended up at Borussia Munchengladbach, which suggests he didn't desire to play in England. Rolan has ended up at Deportivo La Coruna after only scoring 5 goals last season who ended 16th in La Liga, which suggests his quality isn't that high.
So far the players we have signed have Europa league and Champions League experience, which in my eyes shows enough ambition that is necessary for a recently promoted side.
The speed of signings appears to be more of an issue than ambition. In fact, maybe it's our ambition that has stopped us signing more players at this point?
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Well said
Maybe it has but doesn't alter the fact we need 5 more starters, players who will improve the first choice eleven.
We want a situation where we have a 2 or 3 players good enough to start but unable to get a game every week due to the strength of the squad.
Due to injuries, rotation, tactics we need enough starters to not have to rely on youngsters and the likes of Cisse, Djao, Woodrow
Some will say we need more than 5 some will say less as the youngsters will fill the gaps in squad etc etc etc.
Using Ayite, Kebano, Odoi, Ream, Fonte is fine but too many of these playing together in the starting eleven would be a disaster.
That leaves just 8 worthy first team outfield players in my book!
Sarcasm is sometimes hard to interpret over online messaging firstly.
Secondly, i'm not using the ambition as a good excuse as to why we've signed only three players, more as a reason as to why we have signed fewer players than we could have done. I agree we need a lot more players for our first team, and if this means removing some of our ambition to sign "bigger name players" in favour of probably cheaper players who are maybe less well known but will be good enough to avoid relegation, then that should soon become a priority as the window nears closing.
Yaya's lookin for a club in London....
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 24, 2018, 08:23:20 PM
Yaya's lookin for a club in London....
Is he still willing to play for £1 /week?
Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 06:27:31 PM
I'm struggling to see how our recruitment team can be seen as lacking in ambition?
The speed of signings appears to be more of an issue than ambition. In fact, maybe it's our ambition that has stopped us signing more players at this point?
I would guess all football clubs have 'ambition' which runs from survival right the way through to winning everything in sight. The delivery of that ambition is, however, what distinguishes success from failure. So far we have three incoming players which in no way addresses the number who are no longer on the Club's books. I also suspect that what Jokanovic calls 'ambition' is demonstrating a loftier height of attainment than Fulham may have shown to him in the past and attaining means getting deals over the line. We could be after Messi for all I know but so what? If Messi ain't playing for us against Crystal Palace then its meaningless to call it 'ambition' at all. When all the deals are done and the window closed then we can say just what 'ambition' did for us.
So 11 players chip up for a game on a Sunday, half have never played together... However, they are all individually good players... Sneak a couple of goals and keep a clean sheet. Works for the local pub team.
Let's hope the first game Fulham play isn't against an established Prem side where the manager doesn't know anything about us, nor did they start playing well since said manager took over....
Oh wait....
say we sign Mitrovic.. He's injured or banned? Who covers? Fonte? Kamara? 8 players left and we have 3 in.. Makes us 5 Prem quality players down with just a couple of weeks to go..
I should be looking forward to the 9th when the window close as its actually my birthday...
Would anyone take Alex song? He's a free agent (at least I think) and with clubs demanding outrageous fees for various players he could be fairly cheap, even if his wages are high.
SCHURRLE CLOSE TO FULHAM MOVE
Borussia Dortmund forward Andre Schurrle is flying to London tonight ahead of a medical tomorrow at Fulham.
Sky Sports News understands that Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic has secured the signature of Schurrle ahead of a number of interested clubs including Crystal Palace and AC Milan.
The German international was released from Dortmund's tour of the US to discuss the move.
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
SCHURRLE CLOSE TO FULHAM MOVE
Borussia Dortmund forward Andre Schurrle is flying to London tonight ahead of a medical tomorrow at Fulham.
Sky Sports News understands that Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic has secured the signature of Schurrle ahead of a number of interested clubs including Crystal Palace and AC Milan.
The German international was released from Dortmund's tour of the US to discuss the move.
Great news if true! Is he the new Duff?
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
SCHURRLE CLOSE TO FULHAM MOVE
Borussia Dortmund forward Andre Schurrle is flying to London tonight ahead of a medical tomorrow at Fulham.
Sky Sports News understands that Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic has secured the signature of Schurrle ahead of a number of interested clubs including Crystal Palace and AC Milan.
The German international was released from Dortmund's tour of the US to discuss the move.
Just saw this. I'd be genuinely impressed if we got this done.
Quote from: zander on July 24, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
SCHURRLE CLOSE TO FULHAM MOVE
Borussia Dortmund forward Andre Schurrle is flying to London tonight ahead of a medical tomorrow at Fulham.
Sky Sports News understands that Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic has secured the signature of Schurrle ahead of a number of interested clubs including Crystal Palace and AC Milan.
The German international was released from Dortmund's tour of the US to discuss the move.
Just saw this. I'd be genuinely impressed if we got this done.
Does anyone know why it hasn't worked out for him at Dortmund? Was always impressed the few times I saw him play for that lot down the road.
Worrying bit about Shürrle is that he has missed 36 games last two years due to injury for Dortmund.
Quote from: Tabby on July 24, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
Worrying bit about Shürrle is that he has missed 36 games last two years due to injury for Dortmund.
I think we have a fairly good preventative team, look at Fredericks, started off as a bit off sick note and our medical team sorted him out.
And even if not he'd be great in the games he'd play and have Ak and floyd for when he's injured
fenerbahce Taking ayew on loan it seems
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
fenerbahce Taking ayew on loan it seems
Think us signing Schurrle might be an end to those links. Like Ayew he's a winger that can also play as a striker if needed, except he's much better
That should make 2 already this week, subject to medical.
Quote from: Whitesideup on July 24, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
Zero chance that Betts starts the season as number 1. For the same reasons that wheelerdeeler stated:
"You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2"
You may be right Ordar, but in my eyes that would be a shame. It should be a real competition, and I thought Betts played really well second half of last year. He should be the starter with Fabri to prove himself.
Agreed
I think the transfers are being dragged out why Fulham search for words to announce the signings that include the players name
Quote from: Nero on July 24, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
I think the transfers are being dragged out why Fulham search for words to announce the signings that include the players name
I'm sure your right, I hope this is a SCHure thing.
I think I should leave now
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 24, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
I think the transfers are being dragged out why Fulham search for words to announce the signings that include the players name
I'm sure your right, I hope this is a SCHure thing.
I think I should leave now
The hashtag for signing him has to be #SchurrleNot
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 24, 2018, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 24, 2018, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 24, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
I think the transfers are being dragged out why Fulham search for words to announce the signings that include the players name
I'm sure your right, I hope this is a SCHure thing.
I think I should leave now
The hashtag for signing him has to be #SchurrleNot
That is a SCHuper suggestion
Don't Call me Schurrle was a fantasy football classic back when he was at Chelsea
:bump:
Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 11:07:41 PM
Don't Call me Schurrle was a fantasy football classic back when he was at Chelsea
If he signs we'll have completed the whole quote -
I am SERIous and don't call me Schürrle!
Good news about Schurrle. What happened to the rumour about that Serbian kid a few weeks ago that Joka rated highly?
Would love to see Mawson at Fulham, is there any truth to those rumours?
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When Mitro arrives back in England, there is only one team he wants to play for.
A little bit of surgery in the Negotiatings Room and the deal should be completed with all four parties happy if common sense prevails on all sides.
As for Alfie Dawson he would be another important catch.
Quote from: FFC NY on July 24, 2018, 11:12:30 PM
:bump:Quote from: GJB on July 24, 2018, 11:07:41 PM
Don't Call me Schurrle was a fantasy football classic back when he was at Chelsea
If he signs we'll have completed the whole quote -
I am SERIous and don't call me Schürrle!
Schürrle you jest.
Hope this works out for everyone. This man is a known quantity and at 27 years old has played for quality teams, including 57 times for Germany and been effective at what he does best.
COYW.
Quote from: ealex40 on July 25, 2018, 01:49:52 AM
Schürrle you jest.
Hope this works out for everyone. This man is a known quantity and at 27 years old has played for quality teams, including 57 times for Germany and been effective at what he does best.
COYW.
Last time I watched him play was 01 March 2014 - he scored a hat-trick against us - was totally depressing.
I wonder if he's scored a hat-trick since then??
Quote from: Whitesideup on July 24, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
Zero chance that Betts starts the season as number 1. For the same reasons that wheelerdeeler stated:
"You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2"
You may be right Ordar, but in my eyes that would be a shame. It should be a real competition, and I thought Betts played really well second half of last year. He should be the starter with Fabri to prove himself.
Whilst I can understand that some people may have a certain sympathy for Bettinelli, virtually everyone on the transfer topic has emphasised that we need upgrades to the playing staff in order to compete in this league and this can only mean that some loyal and good performers from last season will drop down the pecking order. I would be amazed if Fabri did not start if fit.
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 25, 2018, 02:04:46 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on July 24, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 24, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
Zero chance that Betts starts the season as number 1. For the same reasons that wheelerdeeler stated:
"You don't sign a starting Champions League Goalkeeper, who's recommended by the Goalkeeping coach, for 6 million quid, to come in as a #2"
You may be right Ordar, but in my eyes that would be a shame. It should be a real competition, and I thought Betts played really well second half of last year. He should be the starter with Fabri to prove himself.
Whilst I can understand that some people may have a certain sympathy for Bettinelli, virtually everyone on the transfer topic has emphasised that we need upgrades to the playing staff in order to compete in this league and this can only mean that some loyal and good performers from last season will drop down the pecking order. I would be amazed if Fabri did not start if fit.
I happen to be one of those people who has sympathy for Bettinelli. However, I accept that what you say is realistic and the way it is, and the way it has to be.
I just hope there is healthy competition between the both of them, which I would like to think will bring out the best in both players, in the best interest of Fulham.
Quote from: Roberty on July 25, 2018, 02:02:00 AM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 25, 2018, 01:49:52 AM
Schürrle you jest.
Hope this works out for everyone. This man is a known quantity and at 27 years old has played for quality teams, including 57 times for Germany and been effective at what he does best.
COYW.
Last time I watched him play was 01 March 2014 - he scored a hat-trick against us - was totally depressing.
I wonder if he's scored a hat-trick since then??
I watched this back and wasn't that impressed in the end.. we were crap and had Dan burn as our CB who was generally crap but on this day monumentally so - nice guy mind..
That team was poor and even included the everso erratic kasami and jonny heitinga. We were relegation candidates then.
Quote from: Roberty on July 25, 2018, 02:02:00 AM
Quote from: ealex40 on July 25, 2018, 01:49:52 AM
Schürrle you jest.
Hope this works out for everyone. This man is a known quantity and at 27 years old has played for quality teams, including 57 times for Germany and been effective at what he does best.
COYW.
Last time I watched him play was 01 March 2014 - he scored a hat-trick against us - was totally depressing.
I wonder if he's scored a hat-trick since then??
Apparently, two years to the day later, he scored a hat-trick for Wolfsburg in a 4-0 game against Hannover 96. He also scored the last two goals, after coming on as a substitute, when Germany beat Brazil 7-1 in the 2014 World Cup. Wikipedia also stated that it was his cross/assist for the winning goal in the WC final against Argentina.
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This is like a tube of toothpaste pushing the paste to the top and then releasing the cap, and we will see a profusion of new players come tumbling out, I hope.
When is that news coming wolly? You said 48hrs
It's started Alienixs as forecast.
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Yes, however to be fair, not for at least 48 hours.
So the Tuesday 6PM news with Woolly will be the unveiling of our targets :-)
It's starting to happen, subject to medicals and so forth.
So Wolly, Shurrle was one of the extra 3 was he ? Mitro should happen this week.
I hope one of the other 2 is a centre half and one a left back ???
Then, after that anything will be a bonus for me. If the above comes home, we will have had a transfer window we could have only dreamt about. Way beyond what I thought would happen.
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Would love to see Mawson at Fulham, is there any truth to those rumours?
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Yes not saying he'll definitely sign but was 25-1 to sign on sunday night now 9-2 second favourite to a club he doesnt really want to go to
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Would love to see Mawson at Fulham, is there any truth to those rumours?
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Yes not saying he'll definitely sign but was 25-1 to sign on sunday night now 9-2 second favourite to a club he doesnt really want to go to
Very interesting, he'd be an excellent signing.
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"Fabri has been pictured at Heathrow Airport ahead of his move to Fulham".
https://twitter.com/BesiktasTalk/status/1021083915073748992
Apart from Fabri and Mitro deals hopefully being completed this week.
We may find up to another three quality players potentially arriving subject to medical by around next Monday 30th give or take.
Fingers crossed.
Is that speculation/wishful thinking or have you heard trumpeting across the tundra?
Yes I have to admit that my trunk can trumpet, but I have my information. Which is reliable, but no names no pack drill at this current moment, but no this is not speculation or rumour, that's not my style.
The only problem I have is that Fulham as is well known, drag their feet so frustratingly at times, and not always to their advantage, it can be difficult to forecast when and where.
I shall keep you informed of any further developments.
Are you able to give us any information on who those players might be?
Yes, however to be fair, not for at least 48 hours.
So the Tuesday 6PM news with Woolly will be the unveiling of our targets :-)
It's starting to happen, subject to medicals and so forth.
Can you give any spoilers as to who's lined up next after Schurrle and most likely Mitro? I'd imagine there's got to be a defender or two??
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Fulham look set to beat Crystal Palace to the signing of former Chelsea wide-man Andre Schurrle from Borussia Dortmund. Slavisa Jokanovic's summer plans coming together nicely. And they still have a few more to come.
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BREAKING: Fulham have agreed a fee in the region of €11m for Andre Schurrle with Dortmund. Schurrle will have his Fulham medical today and has agreed a 3 year deal.
If true, €11m for a proven German international who can play all positions in attack looks like bargain.
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BREAKING: Fulham have agreed a fee in the region of €11m for Andre Schurrle with Dortmund. Schurrle will have his Fulham medical today and has agreed a 3 year deal.
If true, €11m for a proven German international who can play all positions in attack looks like bargain.
WOW! thats what £9.5m! if true, that is a great price. when you look at other players of the same position....Cardiff paid what for josh murphy, £11m...i know lets not get in to comparing players with other teams but that is a bargain. even if he doesnt hit the heights of his capabilities, got to be worth the punt
will be well impressed when this is unveiled....
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BREAKING: Fulham have agreed a fee in the region of €11m for Andre Schurrle with Dortmund. Schurrle will have his Fulham medical today and has agreed a 3 year deal.
If true, €11m for a proven German international who can play all positions in attack looks like bargain.
hope theres an option for a fourth year, not a huge fan of short contracts
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
I hope there's an option for a fourth year, not a huge fan of short contracts
After the Fredricks fiasco I hope the club have learnt their lesson - I understand it was a shock when they realised that they had missed it out of his contract
Just playing devil's advocate here, but Schurrle is coming off the back of 2 poor-ish seasons. When the name Joe Hart has been mentioned, who's also had 2 poor-ish seasons, the consensus has been that it's not lost confidence, it's decline. He's 31, which is about prime-age for a goalkeeper. Schurrle is 27, about prime-age for an outfield player.
What's the difference?
I know there are a lot of comments about our not doing business earlier but I think what we seem to be getting was well worth it
If anyone thinks our owners have let down for SJ - consider Rafa's latest comment to the press
Rafa Benitez is confident he will able to strengthen his Newcastle squad before the transfer window closes on August 9. The Spaniard told Sky Sports News: "We will do something and we have to do something." (sounds to be more desperate than confident)
Quote from: bencher on July 25, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here, but Schurrle is coming off the back of 2 poor-ish seasons. When the name Joe Hart has been mentioned, who's also had 2 poor-ish seasons, the consensus has been that it's not lost confidence, it's decline. He's 31, which is about prime-age for a goalkeeper. Schurrle is 27, about prime-age for an outfield player.
What's the difference?
The problem for Joe is that the requirement for a modern day goalkeeper have changed - they now need to ball skills of an outfield player too
Quote from: bencher on July 25, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here, but Schurrle is coming off the back of 2 poor-ish seasons. When the name Joe Hart has been mentioned, who's also had 2 poor-ish seasons, the consensus has been that it's not lost confidence, it's decline. He's 31, which is about prime-age for a goalkeeper. Schurrle is 27, about prime-age for an outfield player.
What's the difference?
is rather gamble on an outfield player than the last line of defence.
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Quote from: bencher on July 25, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here, but Schurrle is coming off the back of 2 poor-ish seasons. When the name Joe Hart has been mentioned, who's also had 2 poor-ish seasons, the consensus has been that it's not lost confidence, it's decline. He's 31, which is about prime-age for a goalkeeper. Schurrle is 27, about prime-age for an outfield player.
What's the difference?
The problem for Joe is that the requirement for a modern day goalkeeper have changed - they now need to ball skills of an outfield player too
There's also a world of difference between an outfield player losing the ball or making a mistake and a goalkeeper doing the same.
So, Mr. Mammoth, just to recap: Fabri has signed, Mitro is still up in the air but is reputedly back today, Schurrle is having a medical; who are the other two you mentioned you'd tell us about after 48 hours? Just positions would be interesting.
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Quote from: bencher on July 25, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here, but Schurrle is coming off the back of 2 poor-ish seasons. When the name Joe Hart has been mentioned, who's also had 2 poor-ish seasons, the consensus has been that it's not lost confidence, it's decline. He's 31, which is about prime-age for a goalkeeper. Schurrle is 27, about prime-age for an outfield player.
What's the difference?
The problem for Joe is that the requirement for a modern day goalkeeper have changed - they now need to ball skills of an outfield player too
There's also a world of difference between an outfield player losing the ball or making a mistake and a goalkeeper doing the same.
Yep that seems fair enough. And it also explains why we sold David Button.
But to refer to MJG's point (and I was playing devil's advocate - this is a very exciting possibility) - it does remain something of a gamble.
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Quote from: bencher on July 25, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here, but Schurrle is coming off the back of 2 poor-ish seasons. When the name Joe Hart has been mentioned, who's also had 2 poor-ish seasons, the consensus has been that it's not lost confidence, it's decline. He's 31, which is about prime-age for a goalkeeper. Schurrle is 27, about prime-age for an outfield player.
What's the difference?
The problem for Joe is that the requirement for a modern day goalkeeper have changed - they now need to ball skills of an outfield player too
There's also a world of difference between an outfield player losing the ball or making a mistake and a goalkeeper doing the same.
Yep that seems fair enough. And it also explains why we sold David Button.
But to refer to MJG's point (and I was playing devil's advocate - this is a very exciting possibility) - it does remain something of a gamble.
only in the sense of what's more dangerous, a GK off form or a player. Personally I think he would be a good signing and excellent one if just a loan.
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So, Mr. Mammoth, just to recap: Fabri has signed, Mitro is still up in the air but is reputedly back today, Schurrle is having a medical; who are the other two you mentioned you'd tell us about after 48 hours? Just positions would be interesting.
Must be a CB and a DL. I bet on Mawson or David Lopez and Targett or Augustinsson.
We're bookies favourites to sign Mawson now
According to Bild, Schürrle will join on a two-year loan deal without an option to buy.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/andre-schuerrle/zum-fc-fulham-ausgeliehen-56421200.bild.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
If we get Schurrle for €11m, that would be unbelievably good business
Quote from: twang on July 25, 2018, 09:51:05 AM
According to Bild, Schürrle will join on a two-year loan deal without an option to buy.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/andre-schuerrle/zum-fc-fulham-ausgeliehen-56421200.bild.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Hasn't he only got 2 years left on his deal? That wouldn't really make sense to me? Why would they do a loan rather than sell
Vida is being mentioned, apparently a bid was turned down. It's all happening now
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According to Bild, Schürrle will join on a two-year loan deal without an option to buy.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/andre-schuerrle/zum-fc-fulham-ausgeliehen-56421200.bild.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Hasn't he only got 2 years left on his deal? That wouldn't really make sense to me? Why would they do a loan rather than sell
We're either paying a decent loan fee or all of his wages (allegedly on over £100k a week at Dortmund) so that when his contract expires we can sign him on a free if that's true
EDIT; His contract expires in 2021 so he'd be entering the last year of his deal, so I'd assume we'd get him for a cut price or negotiate it into a permanent deal prior to that if we wanted. It being a loan means we can spend money elsewhere and with it being a two year thing means we keep him for longer which financially is quite clever.
Apparently his agent Ingo Haspel has confirmed he's currently undergoing a medical.
Dannyboi - don't suppose you're in the bushes around Motspur Park Al la Fabri again?
Apparently he still has a house here from his time at Chelsea, so that makes things a lot easier for him
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We're bookies favourites to sign Mawson now
SOURCE?! Sorry for getting over-excited but will be massive if true.
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Would love to see Mawson at Fulham, is there any truth to those rumours?
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He's now odds on favourite to join Fulham
Yes not saying he'll definitely sign but was 25-1 to sign on sunday night now 9-2 second favourite to a club he doesnt really want to go to
Dont really know much about Mawson... Would this be a big coup then?
Mawson evens now
I'd be delighted if the Kevin Mbabu transfer happened. Just watched his highlights on Youtube for Young Boys and he's got the speed of Freddo, but seemingly more end product, albeit in a poor league.
Btw, i discovered that googling 'Young Boys' can be a bit dodgy :022:
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We're bookies favourites to sign Mawson now
SOURCE?! Sorry for getting over-excited but will be massive if true.
Look at sky bet, now gone 5/6 on
I havn't followed the PL for 4 years - is Mawson that good then? I see he's a good age.
Fabian Schar would be a terrific addition in defence for Fulham(https://cdn.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Fabian-Schar.jpg)
Fulham fans are hoping that a few more new faces join the team this summer in order to make sure they're ready for the big challenge of surviving in the Premier League.Having completed all that hard work to reach the Premier League, spending money on players who would be able to keep them there is a very sensible plan.
Having already splashed the cash on Nice duo Jean Michael Seri and Maxime Le Marchand, Fulham should swiftly move onto pursuing another defender in the form of Fabian Schar, who is valued at £2.7 million on Transfermarkt.
During his debut season in Spain and with Deportivo La Coruna last season, Schar made 25 appearances, in which surprisingly he contributed greatly in attack in scoring two goals and setting up two as well.
The Switzerland international was also on show during his country's World Cup adventure, where the 26-year-old and his teammates crashed out in the round of 16, losing 1-0 to Sweden.
Apart from that disappointment though, Schar stood firm in defence, doing his very best to keep their dream alive, and in the process seemingly attracted interest from fellow Premier League side Newcastle.
At 26, Schar still has many years ahead of him to make a difference in this exciting Fulham team, and be the difference between relegation and Premier League prosperity.
He is an experienced defender that likes a tackle, isn't scared of flying in, and has a reasonable amount of pace to help keep the opposition at bay – thus, he could transform the Cottagers' backline.
As such, those attributes alone should make Fulham consider a move for the Swiss defender, in what would be a terrific addition to Jokanovic's backline.
https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/fulham/fabian-schar-would-be-a-terrific-addition-in-defence-for-fulham/
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/wechselboerse/2018-19/1/1-bundesliga/transfermarkt.html
Fulham is probably borrowing Schürrle
"Sky England" has reported that André Schürrle is on his way to Fulham to complete the compulsory medical check-up on Wednesday. According to kicker research, this information applies. The World Champion was released by Borussia Dortmund to look for a new club. He now seems to have found this in the Premier League - again in London, where he was already between 2013 and 2015 at Chelsea under contract. FC Fulham should probably borrow him first. Schürrle runs since July 2016 for the BVB and came for the Black and Yellow 33 times in the Bundesliga used (three goals, ten assists).
Wolves have accepted a bid from Leeds for Barry Douglas. Pretty shocked to be honest, he was great for Wolves last season (4 goals, 14 assists, great set-pieces and crosses from LB) I would certainly take him at Fulham considering the fee must be ~£5m
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Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
So, Mr. Mammoth, just to recap: Fabri has signed, Mitro is still up in the air but is reputedly back today, Schurrle is having a medical; who are the other two you mentioned you'd tell us about after 48 hours? Just positions would be interesting.
Must be a CB and a DL. I bet on Mawson or David Lopez and Targett or Augustinsson.
I would say LB and RCB and possibly as a bonus another midfielder. Two out of those three, or eventually all three depending how the negotiations advance I expect.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-to-confirm-andre-schurrle-transfer-as-former-chelsea-star-arrives-on-seasonlong-loan-a3895821.html
Fulham to confirm Andre Schurrle transfer as former Chelsea star arrives on season-long loan
The 27-year-old former Chelsea forward — who scored a hat-trick at Craven Cottage in 2014 — has been in talks over a switch from Borussia Dortmund and was in London on Wednesday for a medical.
Schurrle, who has cost around £70million in fees during his career, is keen on a return to the Premier League and Fulham are likely to complete the deal this week. Dortmund confirmed last weekend that Schurrle had been released from their tour of the US.
Landing the Germany forward would be another coup for Fulham head coach Slavisa Jokanovic following the signings of Jean Michael Seri and Maxime Le Marchand in a combined £30m deal from Nice.
Schurrle has struggled with injuries and form in recent years but won the World Cup with Germany in 2014 and enjoyed some good times at Chelsea.
He joined them from Bayer Leverkusen for £18m in 2013, scored 14 goals in 65 appearances and left for Wolfsburg for £22.6m.
We need to get all over Barry Douglas, top player last season and for me can step up to the Premier League no problem! Probably half the price of Targett as well!
In response to your request for some info Holders - Mawson is a very good prospect . He is 24 and has played for England u 21 s. He may not yet be the finished article but he has good potential . He is a Londoner and according to press reports he would like to return to the capital. Last year he played in the Premier League and was virtually an ever present in the Swansea side that was relegated. A Swansea fan friend of mine says he was terrific for them and had a very good season - he also said that he has a terrific attitude and maturity for one so relatively young. Southgate had him in his squad for the friendliest prior to the World Cup - but he did not feature.
It is widely reported that Sean Dyche wants him at Burnley - which for me is testimony that he would be a good purchase and potentially a great investment.
Playing alongside Ream I think he would be a great fit (but I'm not Joka )
Thanks for the good info HV71!
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I'd be delighted if the Kevin Mbabu transfer happened. Just watched his highlights on Youtube for Young Boys and he's got the speed of Freddo, but seemingly more end product, albeit in a poor league.
Btw, i discovered that googling 'Young Boys' can be a bit dodgy :022:
Looks even more dodgy when you add the Wankdorf Stadium (their old ground)
All good news so far in this transfer window. These things take time and need to be right rather than quick.
A new LB is essential as is a commanding CB and a striker (Mitro if need be but Jose preferably). Mitro did a great job for us last season and is loved by the supporters but Jose would probably be a step up. RW may be solved by Schurrle (spelling?) with Ayite/Kebano as back up. Kamara out on loan to a championship side for the season. He might in my opinion come good in due course but he is very raw and a full season playing regularly would do a power of good.
Exciting times.
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Quote from: Barrett487 on July 25, 2018, 10:33:49 AM
I'd be delighted if the Kevin Mbabu transfer happened. Just watched his highlights on Youtube for Young Boys and he's got the speed of Freddo, but seemingly more end product, albeit in a poor league.
Btw, i discovered that googling 'Young Boys' can be a bit dodgy :022:
Looks even more dodgy when you add the Wankdorf Stadium (their ground)
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I'm a little disappointed if Schurrle's only a season loan with no option. But I guess it just means we'll need to reassess that position next season, or they expect Kamara to develop into a first choice for that position this year
Quote from: Ordar on July 25, 2018, 11:27:58 AM
I'm a little disappointed if Schurrle's only a season loan with no option. But I guess it just means we'll need to reassess that position next season, or they expect Kamara to develop into a first choice for that position this year
Of course, if Schurrle shines we'll have another Mitro situation potentially, regarding his value.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 25, 2018, 11:30:30 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 25, 2018, 11:27:58 AM
I'm a little disappointed if Schurrle's only a season loan with no option. But I guess it just means we'll need to reassess that position next season, or they expect Kamara to develop into a first choice for that position this year
Of course, if Schurrle shines we'll have another Mitro situation potentially, regarding his value.
or a Targett one where they decide not to sell him
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 25, 2018, 06:31:05 AM
So Wolly, Shurrle was one of the extra 3 was he ? Mitro should happen this week.
I hope one of the other 2 is a centre half and one a left back ???
Then, after that anything will be a bonus for me. If the above comes home, we will have had a transfer window we could have only dreamt about. Way beyond what I thought would happen.
Correct
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 25, 2018, 11:16:02 AM
We need to get all over Barry Douglas, top player last season and for me can step up to the Premier League no problem! Probably half the price of Targett as well!
Agreed, would be a good signing, a solid left-back for a reasonable fee.
Douglas, Mawson, Mitro, Schurrle plus Kalas and Piazon on perm as a squad players and we are good to go into the season.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
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Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
So, Mr. Mammoth, just to recap: Fabri has signed, Mitro is still up in the air but is reputedly back today, Schurrle is having a medical; who are the other two you mentioned you'd tell us about after 48 hours? Just positions would be interesting.
Must be a CB and a DL. I bet on Mawson or David Lopez and Targett or Augustinsson.
I would say LB and RCB and possibly as a bonus another midfielder. Two out of those three, or eventually all three depending how the negotiations advance I expect.
I could have written that and I've never claimed to be ITK!
Quote from: HV71 on July 25, 2018, 11:18:33 AM
In response to your request for some info Holders - Mawson is a very good prospect . He is 24 and has played for England u 21 s. He may not yet be the finished article but he has good potential . He is a Londoner and according to press reports he would like to return to the capital. Last year he played in the Premier League and was virtually an ever present in the Swansea side that was relegated. A Swansea fan friend of mine says he was terrific for them and had a very good season - he also said that he has a terrific attitude and maturity for one so relatively young. Southgate had him in his squad for the friendliest prior to the World Cup - but he did not feature.
It is widely reported that Sean Dyche wants him at Burnley - which for me is testimony that he would be a good purchase and potentially a great investment.
Playing alongside Ream I think he would be a great fit (but I'm not Joka )
Thank you. So, an improvement on Targett except that he hasn't played in our system? If he's a Londoner I can see that he might prefer us over Burnley.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 25, 2018, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
So, Mr. Mammoth, just to recap: Fabri has signed, Mitro is still up in the air but is reputedly back today, Schurrle is having a medical; who are the other two you mentioned you'd tell us about after 48 hours? Just positions would be interesting.
Must be a CB and a DL. I bet on Mawson or David Lopez and Targett or Augustinsson.
I would say LB and RCB and possibly as a bonus another midfielder. Two out of those three, or eventually all three depending how the negotiations advance I expect.
I could have written that and I've never claimed to be ITK!
True that.
Woolly, give us the name of a left-back in question? 049:gif
Speaking of former German internationals. I would consider bringing Holtby back. He's still only 27. Just relegated with Hamburg so may be a cheap option (good cover if TC's injuries flare up again)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2018, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 25, 2018, 06:31:05 AM
So Wolly, Shurrle was one of the extra 3 was he ? Mitro should happen this week.
I hope one of the other 2 is a centre half and one a left back ???
Then, after that anything will be a bonus for me. If the above comes home, we will have had a transfer window we could have only dreamt about. Way beyond what I thought would happen.
Correct
Can we be friends? How do I earn your trust to know these things when you do with a promise I don't share or spread rumours? It's so much better having an idea of timeframes/players etc than constantly going off hearsay.
If you trust me send me a pm with one or two names of players (the defenders?) And I'll prove it to you.
Want to be a sane fan.
Also rumours starting to gather pace that Fulham have put in a bid for croatias Domagoj Vida - not sure it has legs as after world cup imagine he'd be sought after terms but twitter seems to be gathering pace from official sources (twitter accounts with blue ticks)...
Plays for besiktas too, so could have been made up due to the Fabri connection, or been discussed at same time through genuine official channels
Quote from: General on July 25, 2018, 11:51:46 AM
Also rumours starting to gather pace that Fulham have put in a bid for croatias Domagoj Vida - not sure it has legs as after world cup imagine he'd be sought after terms but twitter seems to be gathering pace from official sources (twitter accounts with blue ticks)...
Plays for besiktas too, so could have been made up due to the Fabri connection, or been discussed at same time through genuine official channels
No odds yet on him joining us, but also linked with Monaco simultaneously.
Edit... also Liverpool linked
from the Newcastle United blog
http://www.nufcblog.com/2018/07/25/benitez-talks-about-the-return-of-aleksandar-mitrovic-today/
Aleksandar Mitrovic will return to Newcastle today, and he will be disappointed a deal has not been agreed yet for his move to Fulham.
Newcastle never do anything quickly in the transfer market, and it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise that we have not yet agreed a fee with the Cottagers, who are very keen to sign him.
Newcastle are also keen to sell him since he does not fit into the plan of Rafa at Newcastle and we need the money.
But with just over two weeks to go in this shortened transfer window we still haven't brought in a striker, and that is our number one requirement in this summer's transfer window.
This is what Rafa said last night when asked about Mitro coming back:
"He has to come back. He has to come back, and he is due to come back on Wednesday."
"We need to check on how he is, and then we will decide if he will go to Portugal."
"It is a day off for the rest of the squad (on Wednesday), so we have some time to see how things are."
"Tomorrow is the future for him."
We really hope a deal to sell Mitrovic to Fulham can be done quickly and that his transfer – like so many at Newcastle – doesn't drag on for far too long.
When Rafa said over a year ago that we must improve the speed and guile with which we do transfers – he was right – but there's been absolutely no improvement whatsoever.
With Ashley at the helm, it's starting to look like it will be too difficult to build the side that Rafa wants on Tyneside.
A team that can win trophies and challenge for the top six in the Premier League.
If he doesn't sign a new contract this season, we should all make the most of having Rafa as our manager until next June.
It could well be his last season at the club, and he's been just terrific over the previous two seasons – two very successful seasons for us.
But he hasn't been rewarded by the owner Mike Ashley.
If Rafa does leave next summer, Mike Ashley will have screwed everything up.
Again.
Comments always welcome.
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Quote from: HV71 on July 25, 2018, 11:18:33 AM
In response to your request for some info Holders - Mawson is a very good prospect . He is 24 and has played for England u 21 s. He may not yet be the finished article but he has good potential . He is a Londoner and according to press reports he would like to return to the capital. Last year he played in the Premier League and was virtually an ever present in the Swansea side that was relegated. A Swansea fan friend of mine says he was terrific for them and had a very good season - he also said that he has a terrific attitude and maturity for one so relatively young. Southgate had him in his squad for the friendliest prior to the World Cup - but he did not feature.
It is widely reported that Sean Dyche wants him at Burnley - which for me is testimony that he would be a good purchase and potentially a great investment.
Playing alongside Ream I think he would be a great fit (but I'm not Joka )
Thank you. So, an improvement on Targett except that he hasn't played in our system? If he's a Londoner I can see that he might prefer us over Burnley.
Apologies Holders I failed to point out that he is a right footed centre back
Quote from: Ordar on July 25, 2018, 11:27:58 AM
I'm a little disappointed if Schurrle's only a season loan with no option. But I guess it just means we'll need to reassess that position next season, or they expect Kamara to develop into a first choice for that position this year
We've been assessing and reassessing loans for 4 years in the championship. There's stricter limits in the prem but we can do it with higher quality players.
If we survive, who knows the quality that's available in 12 months. If we struggle, what's the chances of a sell on value increasing ? Smart move I think
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Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 11:45:40 AM
Quote from: HV71 on July 25, 2018, 11:18:33 AM
In response to your request for some info Holders - Mawson is a very good prospect . He is 24 and has played for England u 21 s. He may not yet be the finished article but he has good potential . He is a Londoner and according to press reports he would like to return to the capital. Last year he played in the Premier League and was virtually an ever present in the Swansea side that was relegated. A Swansea fan friend of mine says he was terrific for them and had a very good season - he also said that he has a terrific attitude and maturity for one so relatively young. Southgate had him in his squad for the friendliest prior to the World Cup - but he did not feature.
It is widely reported that Sean Dyche wants him at Burnley - which for me is testimony that he would be a good purchase and potentially a great investment.
Playing alongside Ream I think he would be a great fit (but I'm not Joka )
Thank you. So, an improvement on Targett except that he hasn't played in our system? If he's a Londoner I can see that he might prefer us over Burnley.
Apologies Holders I failed to point out that he is a right footed centre back
My error. We need both positions anyway.
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
we need to be careful what we wish for. mitro is unproven at premier league level. i want us to to sign him, but if it does not happen and we have a decent alternative i wont lose sleep over it.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
So you are happy with Fonte? 20m for a striker is the basic rate these days. I know it sounds like madness but have a look at the valuations on players this season .
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
I am fussed, but I'm pretty assured that he'll sign for us.
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
So you are happy with Fonte? 20m for a striker is the basic rate these days. I know it sounds like madness but have a look at the valuations on players this season .
basic rate in England maybe.
now linked with a RB I haven't seen mentioned before - Kevin Malcuit of Lille
My thinking is we are wrangling with Newcastle as we know they need the money. Mitrovic is liked by our Manager, knows our system & likes the club. We're only £2M away if reports are correct - think he'll be an A1 acquistion & certainly hope it will happen. Playing alongside Schurrle would give us a more potent edge that arguably we need. As regards Mawson, surely he's a CB - bringing in Targett as an out & out LB would surely enhance.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 25, 2018, 01:54:23 PM
My thinking is we are wrangling with Newcastle as we know they need the money. Mitrovic is liked by our Manager, knows our system & likes the club. We're only £2M away if reports are correct - think he'll be an A1 acquistion & certainly hope it will happen. Playing alongside Schurrle would give us a more potent edge that arguably we need. As regards Mawson, surely he's a CB - bringing in Targett as an out & out LB would surely enhance.
👍👍 My thoughts exactly. They have very few clubs (none apart from us I think) looking to buy him and need to sell to buy so I think we are bargaining with Newcastle for a lower price than they would otherwise accept.
Sheyi Ojo to Forest 10 million bid? Games going daft.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-keen-on-malcuit/
Quote from: mkras99 on July 25, 2018, 02:27:53 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-keen-on-malcuit/
Says he was an attacker converted to fullback - sounds just our type!
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Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2018, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
Agree with you mince, getting worried
Totally disagree with you fulhamben!
He gets back from holiday today - the club shop has apparently kept scarfs with his name on today - although old stock and rafa benitez said not only does he get back now but he needs to have a chat with Mitro and figure out what's best and once decided and act quickly as it does seem his purse strings are heavily tied and tend he has to sell before he can bring in.
For what it's worth £20m for a 23 yr old with his talent/ability/knowledge of the club and style of play strikes me as a good investment. Especially if we have Schürrle, Sessegnon, Seri and Cairney feeding him balls.
I'd like to see us bring in willian jose too though as well as bringing in two pacey and quality wing backs.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 25, 2018, 10:33:49 AM
I'd be delighted if the Kevin Mbabu transfer happened. Just watched his highlights on Youtube for Young Boys and he's got the speed of Freddo, but seemingly more end product, albeit in a poor league.
Btw, i discovered that googling 'Young Boys' can be a bit dodgy :022:
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
I'm fussed. It's not his overall quality. It's his particular skill set. It just works for our team. What he did to the better teams in the Championship, he can do to more than half the premier league without stepping up his performance from last year.
On Malcuit, Lille are pretty much selling everyone they can because of having serious financial problems. Would think he'd be 10m at the absolute maximum.
Schar having a medical at Newcastle
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/25/report-fulham-one-of-seven-sides-interested-in-west-hams-pedro-o/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCepl
Quote from: Carborundum on July 25, 2018, 04:28:41 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 25, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking Mitro not going to happen.
Regardless of world cup and holidays, think it might of happened by now.😵
is anyone honestly that fussed? We clearly have money to buy a decent striker, and I personally don't see him as a 20mil striker. And I can't really see him taking the prem by storm either
I'm fussed. It's not his overall quality. It's his particular skill set. It just works for our team. What he did to the better teams in the Championship, he can do to more than half the premier league without stepping up his performance from last year.
:plus one:
Quote from: ollienixs on July 25, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
Schar having a medical at Newcastle
Shame about that one. Thought he could've at the least been a good depth option for us (for basically nothing in the grand scheme of things).
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 25, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
Schar having a medical at Newcastle
Shame about that one. Thought he could've at the least been a good depth option for us (for basically nothing in the grand scheme of things).
At £3m would offer a great back up and rotation option or right now starter
✍️ Rotherham United have signed Marek Rodak from Fulham on a season-long-loan.
Quote from: f321ffc on July 25, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
✍️ Rotherham United have signed Marek Rodak from Fulham on a season-long-loan.
good luck Marek.
This young man could be a Fulham regular in 3or 4 years.
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
If he was a proper player he would have joined Rotherham and been competitive there.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Ben,think you've got your facts wrong there. He was never coming to us was on his way to Roma then Barcelona gazumped them and now he's on his way to Spain.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 25, 2018, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Ben,think you've got your facts wrong there. He was never coming to us was on his way to Roma then Barcelona gazumped them and now he's on his way to Spain.
i beleieve ben was joking - the irony was lost on you.
Bet if tomorrow we agree to a Mitrovic post free day then something will happen.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Maybe he wanted to be sure of a first team place.
Just on Skysports transfer round up Fulham are on the verge of a double signing Schurrle and MITROVIC they said the Mitrovic deal is very close so both deals could be announced together COYW
We've been "very close" for the last month though in fairness.
Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Maybe he wanted to be sure of a first team place.
again, another bullet dodged. Who wants prima Donna's who aren't willing to fight for a place in the team.
True but Sky have said the deal is now very close
The ideal scenario is they're both through the door before we go to Germany so they'll have effectively 3 games (4 games really, but the Germany tournament is 45 minute games) to start working together as a Sessegnon, Mitrovic, Schurrle front three.
I just read somewhere that Barcelona want 30 milion euros for Yerry Mina. I would buy him(rcb, 23,good in defence & offence). Thoughts?
Problem with Mina is that he is rubbish at playing out from the back, which is why Barca want to sell him.
Quote from: Tabby on July 25, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
Problem with Mina is that he is rubbish at playing out from the back, which is why Barca want to sell him.
I think that is a bit harsh to say. He did OK with Colombia at World Cup passing-wise and he is really good on set pieces.
Lots of potentially positive stuff today.
Know it's now a bit of a formality but Schurrle posted "big smile" on his Instagram story in front of what appears to be one of the buildings at Motspur, so I believe this one is done!
The way his agent has been talking about it, the only ones who would cancel the deal would be us if there was something in the medical.
Then again Malcolm was announced by the official Roma twitter, so you never know these days.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Maybe he wanted to be sure of a first team place.
again, another bullet dodged. Who wants prima Donna's who aren't willing to fight for a place in the team.
They will be running out of ammunition soon dodging all these bullets, make love, not war, but I take your point.
I just saw paddypower and few others put evs next to Mawson joining us.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Maybe he wanted to be sure of a first team place.
again, another bullet dodged. Who wants prima Donna's who aren't willing to fight for a place in the team.
They will be running out of ammunition soon dodging all these bullets, make love, not war, but I take your point.
Woolly do you have any information you can give on who's next after Mitro and Schurrle?
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/25/por-prem-duo-to-miss-out-st-etienne-star-mvila/
Schurrle just replied to a Fulham fan on twitter about puns for his name, so announcement bound to be imminent
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 25, 2018, 09:09:17 PM
Schurrle just replied to a Fulham fan on twitter about puns for his name, so announcement bound to be imminent
This probably is their clever way of announcing it after the stick they got for Fabrilous.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 08:53:54 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 25, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 25, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Wtf just seen that malcom has opted for Barcelona over us. And at 37 and a half mill too. Still anyone who doesn't want to test himself and play in a competitive league, is a bullet dodged imo
Maybe he wanted to be sure of a first team place.
again, another bullet dodged. Who wants prima Donna's who aren't willing to fight for a place in the team.
Yes it's been an exciting week, and due to the 1987 data protection act, I am restricted in revealing too much speculation.
Nevertheless Deeping_white, we are in exciting times, and the week is still young.
What I can say, is that there shall plenty of activity hereon.
As there are a number of iniment targets, quality targets who have been tracked, and negotiations are ongoing.
It could be the lull before the storm.
They will be running out of ammunition soon dodging all these bullets, make love, not war, but I take your point.
Woolly do you have any information you can give on who's next after Mitro and Schurrle?
Okay so Schurrle has signed - he's updated his Twitter photo with him next to the COYW sign and he's tweeting Fulham supporters about the pun we should use to announce him...
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 09:10:51 PM
Okay so Schurrle has signed - he's updated his Twitter photo with him next to the COYW sign and he's tweeting Fulham supporters about the pun we should use to announce him...
That's two so far this week, and not even half way.
Let's hope the best is yet to come.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/july/25/andre-schurrle-signs
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 09:10:51 PM
Okay so Schurrle has signed - he's updated his Twitter photo with him next to the COYW sign and he's tweeting Fulham supporters about the pun we should use to announce him...
That's a Forward sorted out. MINCE.......MINCE!!!!!! Are you listening?? 😂
Two year deal... so not a loan, but a short contract. No mention of an extension option that i can see.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 25, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
Two year deal... so not a loan, but a short contract. No mention of an extension option that i can see.
Says it's a loan...
"The Club is delighted to confirm the arrival of World Cup winner André Schürrle on
loan from Borussia Dortmund.
The 27-year old forward has agreed a deal that keeps him at Craven Cottage for the next two seasons."
Quote from: FFC NY on July 25, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 25, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
Two year deal... so not a loan, but a short contract. No mention of an extension option that i can see.
Says it's a loan...
"The Club is delighted to confirm the arrival of World Cup winner André Schürrle on loan from Borussia Dortmund.
The 27-year old forward has agreed a deal that keeps him at Craven Cottage for the next two seasons."
Yes, fair cop, didn't read it properly, lol
No 14 shirt.
Guessing #9 is saved for Mitro
All coming together very nicely.
Well done FFC.
So excited about this coming season - so full of love and hope like never before
#COYW
im still waiting for the traditional Joka moan about the transfer window when is that coming
He'd truly have to be a grump to complain about how this window is coming together.
I will say that the quality of the current signings needs to begin making its way back toward the defense and defensive midfield (possible backup for KMac)
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 25, 2018, 09:21:33 PM
That's a Forward sorted out. MINCE.......MINCE!!!!!! Are you listening?? 😂
Just in,the wife and I have been out catching sunstroke😭
Great news,along with Peter Crouch medical tomorrow, our secret weapon for last 15 mins of games.
Given the names signed so far, I'm expecting some serious investment in defense.
The quality of players that we're after is pleasantly surprising. Bar maybe our first season in the Prem in 01 we never were looking to sign this level of player
Wowzer, quite the window so far! Have a feeling we'll see a signing tomorrow!
Mr Khan has seen how much his investment dropped when we went down to the championship
http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=194258
Linked with Mitro's Serbian teammate Adem Ljajic
Quote from: mkras99 on July 25, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=194258
Linked with Mitro's Serbian teammate Adem Ljajic
Wow a midfield with Cairney, Seri and Ljajic as options would be dreamland.
Agree but with current back 4 we will haemorrhage goals! Let's get some top defenders in now or all this good work will be for nothing.
Isnt Ljajic amazing?? I've only heard the name, cant remember seeing him play?
If this window has taught me one thing its that i hate the phrase "doing bits"
Quote from: Ordar on July 25, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
Isnt Ljajic amazing?? I've only heard the name, cant remember seeing him play?
He has been doing well for Torino, but I'm not sure we'd need a central attacking midfielder at this point.
Defensive players must be the priority now.
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Burnley back in as favourites for Mawson
One thing I would say; I know it's hard as supporters when we don't hear anything, but the story literally broke and we signed Schürrle within 24 hours so that shows that the club are doing stuff in the background so patience is required to a certain extent. It's also interesting to hear him say that we've been after him for weeks so again that shows we've had feelers out for players we want for a while.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
One thing I would say; I know it's hard as supporters when we don't hear anything, but the story literally broke and we signed Schürrle within 24 hours so that shows that the club are doing stuff in the background so patience is required to a certain extent. It's also interesting to hear him say that we've been after him for weeks so again that shows we've had feelers out for players we want for a while.
It's almost like the Khan's know what they're doing.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 25, 2018, 11:03:36 PM
Burnley back in as favourites for Mawson
Put 50p on him to join ffc and he'll go evens to join us
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2018, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
One thing I would say; I know it's hard as supporters when we don't hear anything, but the story literally broke and we signed Schürrle within 24 hours so that shows that the club are doing stuff in the background so patience is required to a certain extent. It's also interesting to hear him say that we've been after him for weeks so again that shows we've had feelers out for players we want for a while.
It's almost like the Khan's know what they're doing.
Crazy. A self made billionaire not being awful at his job. Who'd have thunk it...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 12:13:33 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2018, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
One thing I would say; I know it's hard as supporters when we don't hear anything, but the story literally broke and we signed Schürrle within 24 hours so that shows that the club are doing stuff in the background so patience is required to a certain extent. It's also interesting to hear him say that we've been after him for weeks so again that shows we've had feelers out for players we want for a while.
It's almost like the Khan's know what they're doing.
Crazy. A self made billionaire not being awful at his job. Who'd have thunk it...
Yes I'm surprised he hasn't recruited some of the posters on this board who would surely improve his business empire out of sight
Quote from: Snibbo on July 26, 2018, 12:48:31 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 12:13:33 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2018, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
One thing I would say; I know it's hard as supporters when we don't hear anything, but the story literally broke and we signed Schürrle within 24 hours so that shows that the club are doing stuff in the background so patience is required to a certain extent. It's also interesting to hear him say that we've been after him for weeks so again that shows we've had feelers out for players we want for a while.
It's almost like the Khan's know what they're doing.
Crazy. A self made billionaire not being awful at his job. Who'd have thunk it...
Yes I'm surprised he hasn't recruited some of the posters on this board who would surely improve his business empire out of sight
yes way too many keyboard warriors on here...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 12:13:33 AM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 25, 2018, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
One thing I would say; I know it's hard as supporters when we don't hear anything, but the story literally broke and we signed Schürrle within 24 hours so that shows that the club are doing stuff in the background so patience is required to a certain extent. It's also interesting to hear him say that we've been after him for weeks so again that shows we've had feelers out for players we want for a while.
It's almost like the Khan's know what they're doing.
Crazy. A self made billionaire not being awful at his job. Who'd have thunk it...
Raphael Honigstein said we got the jump on everyone with Seri on 5Live tonight as well, so it's not like we're incapable of getting things done quickly either.
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
So, the implication is our famous/infamous medical missed this? Or that we ignored the finding and signed him to a long term, high wage deal? Sounds like excuse making to me.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on July 25, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 25, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=194258
Linked with Mitro's Serbian teammate Adem Ljajic
Wow a midfield with Cairney, Seri and Ljajic as options would be dreamland.
Jokanovic definitely not planning to park the bus. Ljajic is very skilful midfielder.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Struggles in the cold?
He's lucky Hartlepool didn't sign him then or worse still Ross County.😵
Quote from: LondonCalling on July 26, 2018, 05:46:06 AM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on July 25, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 25, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=194258
Linked with Mitro's Serbian teammate Adem Ljajic
Wow a midfield with Cairney, Seri and Ljajic as options would be dreamland.
Jokanovic definitely not planning to park the bus. Ljajic is very skilful midfielder.
Just asked my Serbian friend what is his preferred position and he said it is like this ss, lw, am, rw, st, cm and that he played even as a dm in some games in youth ranks but that he is rubbish there.
P. S. Ljajic transfer to Fulham is all over Serbian, Italian and English press.
Looks like Fulham not going to pay Burnleys asking price for Alfie Mawson, Burnley back in as favourites with the bookies again
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 26, 2018, 02:34:39 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
So, the implication is our famous/infamous medical missed this? Or that we ignored the finding and signed him to a long term, high wage deal? Sounds like excuse making to me.
Or they saw it and thought it was an easily manageable problem
Don't know many medically trained guys on TalkSh!te
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2018, 07:04:10 AM
Looks like Fulham not going to pay Burnleys asking price for Alfie Mawson, Burnley back in as favourites with the bookies again
If we pay Burnley for him.......that will upset Swansea 👍😋
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 06:48:21 AM
Quote from: LondonCalling on July 26, 2018, 05:46:06 AM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on July 25, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 25, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=194258
Linked with Mitro's Serbian teammate Adem Ljajic
Wow a midfield with Cairney, Seri and Ljajic as options would be dreamland.
Jokanovic definitely not planning to park the bus. Ljajic is very skilful midfielder.
Just asked my Serbian friend what is his preferred position and he said it is like this ss, lw, am, rw, st, cm and that he played even as a dm in some games in youth ranks but that he is rubbish there.
P. S. Ljajic transfer to Fulham is all over Serbian, Italian and English press.
The Serbian friend told me that it is all over Serbian media that we are getting him for 15 milion €
Seems strange, might be wanting to play Seri as a holding midfielder with Cairney and a box to box Ljajic? I think Ljajic would be the natural replacement to Johansen out of anyone there.
A bit worrying that we are still reinforcing our best part of the team if true, but I'm not privy to the transfer plans of the team, so hopefully my worries are unfounded.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 26, 2018, 07:47:18 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2018, 07:04:10 AM
Looks like Fulham not going to pay Burnleys asking price for Alfie Mawson, Burnley back in as favourites with the bookies again
If we pay Burnley for him.......that will upset Swansea 👍😋
😉woops, you know what I mean .lol
What time is Crouch's medical?😊
Will that be before David Bentleys?
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 26, 2018, 09:20:23 AM
Will that be before David Bentleys?
Nah mate that's Carlton Cole's Bentley is in after I think.
Brighton have signed Iran winger Alireza Jahanbakhsh for a club-record fee.
Sky sports news:
Newcastle have agreed a deal with Mainz to sign striker Yoshinori Muto for £9.5m, according to Sky sources.
The 25-year-old Japanese striker is currently on a flight from Germany to Newcastle after they agreed a fee with Mainz.
Muto player for Japan in the World Cup in Russia
Looks like Mitro is imminent
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
But you know how Mourinho hates to strengthen one of his rivals.... :dft012:
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
I know exactly what you mean, Mince. But you have to be realistic.
There he is, one of the successes of the WC, and along come Manchester United with all their bells and whistles and offer him a big barrowload of cash. Tough to say, 'No thanks, I'd rather stay in Leicester, I just love those blue shirts'........then, first match of the season, bang goes your knee ligament and you lose a season and half a yard of pace....
I personally would suggest Mexico international Diego Reyes. He seems to be linked with West Ham and Newcastle(cb, 25, 53 Mexico nt appearances + is a free agent).
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 26, 2018, 07:47:18 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 26, 2018, 07:04:10 AM
Looks like Fulham not going to pay Burnleys asking price for Alfie Mawson, Burnley back in as favourites with the bookies again
If we pay Burnley for him.......that will upset Swansea 👍😋
They will probably do a Bank Transfer, if all else fails.
Quote from: Ordar on July 26, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
just had a idea that this wouldn't be easy getting mitro could go to the wire this one!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
Leicester brought him in to replace and compete with Rob Huth. Huth has since been released. It's not all about loyalty. Will you be here berating Seri if he leaves us for a top 4 team next year?
Teams buy players not only to perform but also as an investment and a financial return. If Leicester accept a bid, it has nothing to do with a players loyalty.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
It's 15 minutes actually mince, but I understand your feelings.
But money talks, and it can talk very loud. But I do not blame the player, it's the system and the agents and the cash swept Sport that has allowed this to happen.
Quote from: Newry FFC on July 26, 2018, 10:56:13 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
Leicester brought him in to replace and compete with Rob Huth. Huth has since been released. It's not all about loyalty. Will you be here berating Seri if he leaves us for a top 4 team next year?
Teams buy players not only to perform but also as an investment and a financial return. If Leicester accept a bid, it has nothing to do with a players loyalty.
yes, yes I will berate seri if he leaves after one season
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
Is Harry's agent his brother Jerry?
Quote from: fulhamben on July 26, 2018, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on July 26, 2018, 10:56:13 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
If Xavi is right and we get 2-3x the amount we paid for him, I won't berate him. I'm applaud the recruitment and business team for a smart investment.
Leicester brought him in to replace and compete with Rob Huth. Huth has since been released. It's not all about loyalty. Will you be here berating Seri if he leaves us for a top 4 team next year?
Teams buy players not only to perform but also as an investment and a financial return. If Leicester accept a bid, it has nothing to do with a players loyalty.
yes, yes I will berate seri if he leaves after one season
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
Not like the suggested Smalling stayed here much more than ten minutes.
More David Lopez drama, he has been offered a new contract, but is reluctant to sign it. If he doesn't it is likely that a higher offer than we've had thus far would be able to get him here.
Quote from: Ordar on July 26, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
Why spoil the ship for a ha'p'orth of tar . Just sign him & get on with getting the defensive players we need.
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
United close to signing Maguire. Maybe we still have a chance to buy Smalling?
He's only been at Leicester ten minutes.
Is there any loyalty left in football with some of these players.
Not like the suggested Smalling stayed here much more than ten minutes.
I think it was 10 games.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 26, 2018, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 26, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
just had a idea that this wouldn't be easy getting mitro could go to the wire this one!
Here we go again.
Let's try to save £500k and then miss the player we need and know fits the team......
:031:
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Have no knowledge of his medical issue, but that sounds like a cold air induced asthmatic to me...
But Hey, heart, lungs, they are all the same right?
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 26, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 26, 2018, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 26, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
just had a idea that this wouldn't be easy getting mitro could go to the wire this one!
Here we go again.
Let's try to save £500k and then miss the player we need and know fits the team......
:031:
Perhaps we are paying market rate for a player they are trying to get rid off, who had a good season in our system(no guarantee it would have worked as well at Anderlecht) and started 5 games in the prem last year...
Guess what, he may not even be our first choice...
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Have no knowledge of his medical issue, but that sounds like a cold air induced asthmatic to me...
But Hey, heart, lungs, they are all the same right?
No, he has chillbains. It just means he'll be wearing sleeves and gloves in winter.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 26, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 26, 2018, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 26, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
just had a idea that this wouldn't be easy getting mitro could go to the wire this one!
Here we go again.
Let's try to save £500k and then miss the player we need and know fits the team......
:031:
Perhaps we are paying market rate for a player they are trying to get rid off, who had a good season in our system(no guarantee it would have worked as well at Anderlecht) and started 5 games in the prem last year...
Guess what, he may not even be our first choice...
Why on earth do you think we should spend more than we have to to buy him - he is a cast off and there is no one who does not know that - so he should be priced accordingly
I'm sure that the atmosphere at Darsley Park is wonderful today and that they were all so happy to have him back.
He is not a dimwit and knows the situation - I'm sure he is enjoying Rafa's pain, since he's suffered so much pain from him
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
More David Lopez drama, he has been offered a new contract, but is reluctant to sign it. If he doesn't it is likely that a higher offer than we've had thus far would be able to get him here.
I don't know how much truth there is in this (and I've never heard of this before) but.....apparently we offered enough for the player that gave him permission to talk to us (must be a clause in his contract) even though our offer falls well short of his buy out clause. They thought the terms we offered are significantly higher than what he is currently earning (about triple according to the site) and his club can't get close to that in their new contract offer to him
Talkshi*e saying Fulham looking to other options striker wise,maybe Mitro want happen then?😵
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 26, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 26, 2018, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 26, 2018, 10:47:22 AM
From Sky Sports:
NEWCASTLE AND FULHAM IN MITROVIC STALEMATE
Newcastle and Fulham remain apart over their valuation of Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb striker is back training on Tyneside after returning from an extended holiday following the World Cup.
Doesn't sound like anything is close
just had a idea that this wouldn't be easy getting mitro could go to the wire this one!
Here we go again.
Let's try to save £500k and then miss the player we need and know fits the team......
:031:
Perhaps we are paying market rate for a player they are trying to get rid off, who had a good season in our system(no guarantee it would have worked as well at Anderlecht) and started 5 games in the prem last year...
Guess what, he may not even be our first choice...
Why on earth do you think we should spend more than we have to to buy him - he is a cast off and there is no one who does not know that - so he should be priced accordingly
I'm sure that the atmosphere at Darsley Park is wonderful today and that they were all so happy to have him back.
He is not a dimwit and knows the situation - I'm sure he is enjoying Rafa's pain, since he's suffered so much pain from him
That was my point - Or was that to someone else?
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Have no knowledge of his medical issue, but that sounds like a cold air induced asthmatic to me...
But Hey, heart, lungs, they are all the same right?
No, he has chillbains. It just means he'll be wearing sleeves and gloves in winter.
So, Lupus.
Thanks for clarifying. That is a bit different than a heart issue though. Will be interested to see if he does in fact miss a game or two a season if the temperatures approach freezing levels.
Has Crouchie passed his medical?😊
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 12:32:58 PM
That was my point - Or was that to someone else?
Great minds think alike - I think we both replied at about the same time
Since Tony Khan has been pulling a lot of good quality and unexpected rabbits out of the hat - I would not be at all surprised to find out that he has another Ace up his sleeve - if that is the case maybe Newcastle will pay us to collect Mitro
Breaking News....Newcastle in for Rondon,and after signing the Japanese lad surely they'll let Mitro go.😵
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 12:52:17 PM
Breaking News....Newcastle in for Rondon,and after signing the Japanese lad surely they'll let Mitro go.😵
fingers crossed
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Have no knowledge of his medical issue, but that sounds like a cold air induced asthmatic to me...
But Hey, heart, lungs, they are all the same right?
No, he has chillbains. It just means he'll be wearing sleeves and gloves in winter.
So, Lupus.
Thanks for clarifying. That is a bit different than a heart issue though. Will be interested to see if he does in fact miss a game or two a season if the temperatures approach freezing levels.
it doesn't sound like Lupus. Therapeutic immune deficiency.
The only source that Seri has any issue other than chillbains is a talksport pundit who realistically shouldn't have any inside knowledge.
And chillbains isn't lupus.
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
The only source that Seri has any issue other than chillbains is a talksport pundit who realistically shouldn't have any inside knowledge.
And chillbains isn't lupus.
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
The only source that Seri has any issue other than chillbains is a talksport pundit who realistically shouldn't have any inside knowledge.
And chillbains isn't lupus.
Is chillbains related to Leighton?
'Ski pricing Morata at 62m !!!
Mitro looks good value ven at 20m ...is someone being bloody minded6?
Side note....I see Freddo got a few minutes in the friendly against Villa coming on for Zabelleta.
Quote from: Stevieboy on July 26, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
'Ski pricing Morata at 62m !!!
Mitro looks good value ven at 20m ...is someone being bloody minded6?
Side note....I see Freddo got a few minutes in the friendly against Villa coming on for Zabelleta.
He actually cost less than a Freddo... (please don't jump me re: salary, agent fee, signing fee etc)
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
The only source that Seri has any issue other than chillbains is a talksport pundit who realistically shouldn't have any inside knowledge.
And chillbains isn't lupus.
Adrian Chilblains, he supports WBA doesn't he?
Quote from: Stevieboy on July 26, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
'Ski pricing Morata at 62m !!!
Mitro looks good value ven at 20m ...is someone being bloody minded6?
Side note....I see Freddo got a few minutes in the friendly against Villa coming on for Zabelleta.
No someone - presumably Tony Khan is being realistic - how much is an unwanted player worth - why should we pay more - I'm sure they have welcomed him back to their training ground today - maybe Rafa should not have told everyone that he does not want him and will not play him
If Tony Khan is playing hard-ball it is for a reason - it's probably because he's got an ace up his sleeve
Quote from: Texas White on July 26, 2018, 12:58:06 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Have no knowledge of his medical issue, but that sounds like a cold air induced asthmatic to me...
But Hey, heart, lungs, they are all the same right?
No, he has chillbains. It just means he'll be wearing sleeves and gloves in winter.
So, Lupus.
Thanks for clarifying. That is a bit different than a heart issue though. Will be interested to see if he does in fact miss a game or two a season if the temperatures approach freezing levels.
it doesn't sound like Lupus. Therapeutic immune deficiency.
I thought I read on here that Seri suffers from ingrowing toenails?!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 12:52:17 PM
Breaking News....Newcastle in for Rondon,and after signing the Japanese lad surely they'll let Mitro go.😵
Add to that, Gayle to West Brom in exchange for Rondon.
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 01:29:09 PM
Quote from: Stevieboy on July 26, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
'Ski pricing Morata at 62m !!!
Mitro looks good value ven at 20m ...is someone being bloody minded6?
Side note....I see Freddo got a few minutes in the friendly against Villa coming on for Zabelleta.
No someone - presumably Tony Khan is being realistic - how much is an unwanted player worth - why should we pay more - I'm sure they have welcomed him back to their training ground today - maybe Rafa should not have told everyone that he does not want him and will not play him
If Tony Khan is playing hard-ball it is for a reason - it's probably because he's got an ace up his sleeve
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Followed by a King Queen Jack I expect, but no Jokers.
Sky caught him on camera going into Newcastle's training ground today and he stopped for autographs but looked very glum.. didn't smile or force a smile once. Clearly doesn't want to be there.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 01:29:09 PM
Quote from: Stevieboy on July 26, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
'Ski pricing Morata at 62m !!!
Mitro looks good value ven at 20m ...is someone being bloody minded6?
Side note....I see Freddo got a few minutes in the friendly against Villa coming on for Zabelleta.
No someone - presumably Tony Khan is being realistic - how much is an unwanted player worth - why should we pay more - I'm sure they have welcomed him back to their training ground today - maybe Rafa should not have told everyone that he does not want him and will not play him
If Tony Khan is playing hard-ball it is for a reason - it's probably because he's got an ace up his sleeve
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Followed by a King Queen Jack I expect, but no Jokers.
All we have up front at the moment is Woodrow and Fonte which in poker terms = complete rags.
Quote from: General on July 26, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Sky caught him on camera going into Newcastle's training ground today and he stopped for autographs but looked very glum.. didn't smile or force a smile once. Clearly doesn't want to be there.
Everyone know that they don't want him - it is not a secret - which is why he's worth less than they think
If he needs any comforting we all know that he has SJ's number
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Followed by a King Queen Jack I expect, but no Jokers.
All we have up front at the moment is Woodrow and Fonte which in poker terms = complete rags.
So are you not expecting more quality signings before the transfer window shuts on August 09 ?
If your not - then we have a problem
Quote from: General on July 26, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Sky caught him on camera going into Newcastle's training ground today and he stopped for autographs but looked very glum.. didn't smile or force a smile once. Clearly doesn't want to be there.
My thoughts as well. Not a smile, never faced the camera or the kids.
A true drama this is.
Quote from: Texas White on July 26, 2018, 12:58:06 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 26, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Loz on July 26, 2018, 02:06:00 AM
Guy on Talk Sport just said Seri's got a heart problem, insinuating that's why 'bigger' teams didn't get him. First I've heard of this.
First I've heard of a heart problem. He has the thing where he struggles a bit in cold weather, but then I was reading that apparently Nice were able to manage it with medication so...
Have no knowledge of his medical issue, but that sounds like a cold air induced asthmatic to me...
But Hey, heart, lungs, they are all the same right?
No, he has chillbains. It just means he'll be wearing sleeves and gloves in winter.
So, Lupus.
Thanks for clarifying. That is a bit different than a heart issue though. Will be interested to see if he does in fact miss a game or two a season if the temperatures approach freezing levels.
it doesn't sound like Lupus. Therapeutic immune deficiency.
I assumed he meant Lupus as in wolf, his name being Wolverine.
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Followed by a King Queen Jack I expect, but no Jokers.
All we have up front at the moment is Woodrow and Fonte which in poker terms = complete rags.
So are you not expecting more quality signings before the transfer window shuts on August 09 ?
If your not - then we have a problem
I think we need three more defensive signings and a striker and the way we are pissfarting around I just cant see it happening within two weeks.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
So are you not expecting more quality signings before the transfer window shuts on August 09 ?
If your not - then we have a problem
I think we need three more defensive signings and a striker and the way we are pissfarting around I just cant see it happening within two weeks.
Time will tell and there is still plenty of that left
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Followed by a King Queen Jack I expect, but no Jokers.
All we have up front at the moment is Woodrow and Fonte which in poker terms = complete rags.
So are you not expecting more quality signings before the transfer window shuts on August 09 ?
If your not - then we have a problem
I think we need three more defensive signings and a striker and the way we are pissfarting around I just cant see it happening within two weeks.
Pissfarting? You what? You are a WUM.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
I think we need three more defensive signings and a striker and the way we are pissfarting around I just cant see it happening within two weeks.
Pissfarting? You what? You are a WUM.
Maybe he has prostate issues ???
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
I think we need three more defensive signings and a striker and the way we are pissfarting around I just cant see it happening within two weeks.
Pissfarting? You what? You are a WUM.
Maybe he has prostate issues ???
Just an odd way to describe what is starting to look like a solid transfer window. I shall assume pissfarts are solid and somehow a positive.
Quote from: G_Gribby on July 26, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: General on July 26, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Sky caught him on camera going into Newcastle's training ground today and he stopped for autographs but looked very glum.. didn't smile or force a smile once. Clearly doesn't want to be there.
My thoughts as well. Not a smile, never faced the camera or the kids.
A true drama this is.
Has Mitro actually put in a transfer request yet? If the difference is 2m and he wants to come putting a request in might reduce theprice as Newcastle wont be liable for some of the pay off he will get
Quote from: Nero on July 26, 2018, 02:29:35 PM
Quote from: G_Gribby on July 26, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: General on July 26, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Sky caught him on camera going into Newcastle's training ground today and he stopped for autographs but looked very glum.. didn't smile or force a smile once. Clearly doesn't want to be there.
My thoughts as well. Not a smile, never faced the camera or the kids.
A true drama this is.
Has Mitro actually put in a transfer request yet? If the difference is 2m and he wants to come putting a request in might reduce theprice as Newcastle wont be liable for some of the pay off he will get
He doesn't need to - they have made it perfectly clear to the whole world that he has no future at Newcastle
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Followed by a King Queen Jack I expect, but no Jokers.
All we have up front at the moment is Woodrow and Fonte which in poker terms = complete rags.
So are you not expecting more quality signings before the transfer window shuts on August 09 ?
If your not - then we have a problem
I think we need three more defensive signings and a striker and the way we are pissfarting around I just cant see it happening within two weeks.
Pissfarting? You what? You are a WUM.
Not a WUM Marcel. Have a look at our squad from the end of last season. Now have a look at our squad as it stands today. Add the fact that we have been promoted to the premier league. Yes we paid a shedload for Seri with Le Marchand as the kicker and got Schurrle on loan. Fabri...the jury is out on him and I think Betts is good enough to be a premier league keeper. I don't consider that a massive transfer window for a side who has just been promoted. We are squabbling over a lousy 2m for a striker that has proven is the right fit for the team. Its not good enough.
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
Agree 1000%
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
Agree 1000%
It is not your £2m and why on earth should we pay any more than absolutely necessary for a player that has no future at his club
Because another team could very well come in and say he has a future at their club.
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
Agree 1000%
'It is not your £2m and why on earth should we pay any more than absolutely necessary for a player that has no future at his club'
Is there any need to be like that? I clearly said I'm not being negative, I just think it doesn't make business sense here with the net impact I mentioned. It's not my 2m, you are correct but as a supporter and an observer, I don't mind weighing in on whether a player that helped bring circa 100m to the club, because without him, we wouldn't likely be in EPL and reaping the benefits. As I said too, I'd be more annoyed if I was Mitro, not me, Mitro who today, clearly isn't happy with where he is and if I was him, i'd feel like I was owed a little from the club he achieved wonders with last season. Just my two pence.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
Agree 1000%
'It is not your £2m and why on earth should we pay any more than absolutely necessary for a player that has no future at his club'
Is there any need to be like that? I clearly said I'm not being negative, I just think it doesn't make business sense here with the net impact I mentioned. It's not my 2m, you are correct but as a supporter and an observer, I don't mind weighing in on whether a player that helped bring circa 100m to the club, because without him, we wouldn't likely be in EPL and reaping the benefits. As I said too, I'd be more annoyed if I was Mitro, not me, Mitro who today, clearly isn't happy with where he is and if I was him, i'd feel like I was owed a little from the club he achieved wonders with last season. Just my two pence.
Agreed 1000%
This has escalated into a very personal showdown.
Their lead negotiator (Charnly?) has upped the ante considerably by persuading Ashley to release funds before selling Mitrovic which has skewed the situation considerably.
Are they giving us notice, they do not need incoming funds to operate in the market?
Very delicate position, hope we come out on right side.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
I guess there's the rub. We dont know anything until it happens. No one knows. Not even SSN. They didnt report on Schurrle until he was on the plane so do we think they know how this one is going? I doubt it.
We are stalling as clearly he isnt worth 20m in todays market. He wants to leave, Newcastle want to sell him, he started 5 games in the PL last season and scored 1 goal, why not save some money so we can go potentially up an offer elsewhere to get another player? We have a budget and need to maximise it the best we can.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 02:52:36 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
I guess there's the rub. We dont know anything until it happens. No one knows. Not even SSN. They didnt report on Schurrle until he was on the plane so do we think they know how this one is going? I doubt it.
We are stalling as clearly he isnt worth 20m in todays market. He wants to leave, Newcastle want to sell him, he started 5 games in the PL last season and scored 1 goal, why not save some money so we can go potentially up an offer elsewhere to get another player? We have a budget and need to maximise it the best we can.
In the current market, do you really believe he isn't worth 20m?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 26, 2018, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 26, 2018, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
Agree 1000%
'It is not your £2m and why on earth should we pay any more than absolutely necessary for a player that has no future at his club'
Is there any need to be like that? I clearly said I'm not being negative, I just think it doesn't make business sense here with the net impact I mentioned. It's not my 2m, you are correct but as a supporter and an observer, I don't mind weighing in on whether a player that helped bring circa 100m to the club, because without him, we wouldn't likely be in EPL and reaping the benefits. As I said too, I'd be more annoyed if I was Mitro, not me, Mitro who today, clearly isn't happy with where he is and if I was him, i'd feel like I was owed a little from the club he achieved wonders with last season. Just my two pence.
I think it makes sense to push Newcastle to an extent (which also sends a message to other clubs that we won't be taken advantage of even though we can clearly spend some money), it's just how hard do we push and when do we eventually draw the line and just get it done. I know a £2m saving doesn't seem like much but it could mean the difference between signing say the U19 Turkish captain or not whose increase in value could pay for several transfers if he proves to be a success.
We don't know what's really going on re Mitro - just what's in the media.
I think the club has well exceeded expectations with their activity so far this transfer window, showed ambition, and are apparently trying to bring in more quality players to bolster the squad.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:53:45 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 02:52:36 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
I guess there's the rub. We dont know anything until it happens. No one knows. Not even SSN. They didnt report on Schurrle until he was on the plane so do we think they know how this one is going? I doubt it.
We are stalling as clearly he isnt worth 20m in todays market. He wants to leave, Newcastle want to sell him, he started 5 games in the PL last season and scored 1 goal, why not save some money so we can go potentially up an offer elsewhere to get another player? We have a budget and need to maximise it the best we can.
In the current market, do you really believe he isn't worth 20m?
Not when you add in what I said, no. £15-16m would be fair for him with some performance based bonuses.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
thats like you doing overtime at work, earning a little more money and then going to a shop where they up their price because you have a little more money in your pocket...a price or valuation is a price and cant just be changed just because we have more money. yes they may be trying that angle but im happy for the club to stick by their guns and move on if required. if we do cave, every deal we go into we will be at a disadvantage as they will know we will give in eventually. i want Mitro here as much as anyone, and i am so confident he will be but we will get him at the price we value him at and we as supporters have to accept that the club wont overpay
Quote from: corbs83 on July 26, 2018, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:33:49 PM
Not trying to be negative in the slightest but if we are quibbling over a 2-4m valuation, I'd be a little annoyed if I was Mitro today. he arguably brought a lot of money to the club with his goals so all things considered, over paying by anything up to 5m is still a huge net positive to what the guy did for us last year. he's worth 20m in the current market and I really don't see why we're stalling over such small sums in teh grand scheme of things....Saying that, I don't officially know if this is the case, just speculating.
thats like you doing overtime at work, earning a little more money and then going to a shop where they up their price because you have a little more money in your pocket...a price or valuation is a price and cant just be changed just because we have more money. yes they may be trying that angle but im happy for the club to stick by their guns and move on if required. if we do cave, every deal we go into we will be at a disadvantage as they will know we will give in eventually. i want Mitro here as much as anyone, and i am so confident he will be but we will get him at the price we value him at and we as supporters have to accept that the club wont overpay
that's fair enough with me,I'm guessing we have a back up plan so will trust the club to get it right.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 02:53:45 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 02:52:36 PM
I guess there's the rub. We dont know anything until it happens. No one knows. Not even SSN. They didnt report on Schurrle until he was on the plane so do we think they know how this one is going? I doubt it.
We are stalling as clearly he isnt worth 20m in todays market. He wants to leave, Newcastle want to sell him, he started 5 games in the PL last season and scored 1 goal, why not save some money so we can go potentially up an offer elsewhere to get another player? We have a budget and need to maximise it the best we can.
In the current market, do you really believe he isn't worth 20m?
YES - if he was worth £20m they would have had a lot of offers from other clubs already
By letting everyone know that he had no future with them they have devalued their own player
Mitro is no fool and knows exactly what is going on - if he has any doubts he has SJ's phone number
The bottom line on this will be - do Newcastle want him there after 09 August - this is the third transfer window that they have tried to ship him out, how much longer are they prepared to wait
I suspect that the deal will happen but we may have to wait until nearer the end of the window for it be completed, back and forth on price/add ons etc may be what's delaying it.
There's a rumour posted on 'TIFF' that the hold-up for Mitro is due to Lee Charnley (via Mike Ashley) at Newcastle have moved the goalposts upwards & are now asking for circa £25M. Maybe we are calling their bluff.
Newcastle will probably be feeling vulnerable as they will know that Mitro and SJ are in contact. Those two will know the true score. I'm more confident knowing that than someone from out of the blue. It worked before.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 26, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
There's a rumour posted on 'TIFF' that the hold-up for Mitro is due to Lee Charnley (via Mike Ashley) at Newcastle have moved the goalposts upwards & are now asking for circa £25M. Maybe we are calling their bluff.
Stick it and move on, if this drags until the last day and we have already moved on then unlucky for them or we buy him at a reduced rate as he doesn't want to be there and could cause the camp issues
Don't think its like that overtime analogy at all. I was making the point that Mitro brought more to the club than the difference we're supposedly quibbling about. Could make the analogy it's like Flexitime I guess but I still stand by Mitro is massively net positive compared to the 20m fee. I also think, even with all the drama and posturing in the background, mitro is worth 20m but if we get cheaper, thats excellent. if we don't and we spend appropriately on another striker, then fair enough. I'm super happy with this window already and I'm 100% not moaning.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 26, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
There's a rumour posted on 'TIFF' that the hold-up for Mitro is due to Lee Charnley (via Mike Ashley) at Newcastle have moved the goalposts upwards & are now asking for circa £25M. Maybe we are calling their bluff.
They can only bluff if their cards are face down - since they have told everyone he is surplus to requirements for the last three transfer windows they have nothing to bluff about
As I understand it Mike Ashley spends time in casino's so he will know that he has a busted flush
Quote from: Bracken White on July 26, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
There's a rumour posted on 'TIFF' that the hold-up for Mitro is due to Lee Charnley (via Mike Ashley) at Newcastle have moved the goalposts upwards & are now asking for circa £25M. Maybe we are calling their bluff.
If this is true then I'm afraid we move on. 25m for Mitro is crazy money if we can get Willian Jose for £26m.
Who says we can get William Jose for 26m though?
Quote from: jelmo on July 26, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
Who says we can get William Jose for 26m though?
Twitter - that's as concrete as the story that Newcastle now want 25m...
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 26, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
Who says we can get William Jose for 26m though?
Twitter - that's as concrete as the story that Newcastle now want 25m...
Haha. Exactly.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 26, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
Who says we can get William Jose for 26m though?
Twitter - that's as concrete as the story that Newcastle now want 25m...
Didn't twitter also say they anted in excess of 40m for Jose though?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 26, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
Who says we can get William Jose for 26m though?
Twitter - that's as concrete as the story that Newcastle now want 25m...
Didn't twitter also say they anted in excess of 40m for Jose though?
Twitter says a lot of things and unless it's from FulhamFC with a picture of a new signing holding the shirt with a poor pun then I ignore it.
I feel a lot more positive now than only a couple of days ago and I'm really excited about the players we have signed so far. If this is the level of players we are going for I can understand the delays. It's nice to be linked with quality players and actually think it's realistic for a change. I absolutely LOVE the ambition the club is showing so far!
I'm still a bit concerned about the CB/LB/striker situation but I can't possibly imagine us signing players like Schurrle and Seri without having a solid plan for upgrading our weakest positions too.
Let's hope for more good news in the next couple of days! Jose Willian would be fantastic!
Crouchies medical is taking a long time😭
We must sign Mitro sooner rather than later or move on. Mitro knows SJ & our style & would need no time to bed in. A new player would need at least a couple of weeks to bed in. I think Newcastle are dragging it out as we are a direct competitor.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2018, 04:25:07 PM
Crouchies medical is taking a long time😭
Theyve lost the ladders to check his hearing,
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 26, 2018, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2018, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: jelmo on July 26, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
Who says we can get William Jose for 26m though?
Twitter - that's as concrete as the story that Newcastle now want 25m...
Didn't twitter also say they anted in excess of 40m for Jose though?
Twitter says a lot of things and unless it's from FulhamFC with a picture of a new signing holding the shirt with a poor pun then I ignore it.
Cant wait forthem to sign Breel Embolo
BREELiant
Unbolievable
Bataglia is the latest name now linked.....
http://sportwitness.co.uk/argentine-midfielder-offered-fulham-currently-free-agent/
Quote from: corbs83 on July 26, 2018, 04:55:34 PM
Bataglia is the latest name now linked.....
http://sportwitness.co.uk/argentine-midfielder-offered-fulham-currently-free-agent/
Good holding midfielder, a younger version of Kmac and definitely an upgrade on Norwood should he be brought in as a depth option
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6869117/west-ham-and-fulham-join-napoli-and-inter-milan-in-race-for-lille-ace-kevin-malcuit/
The real BREEL
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aleksandar-mitrovic-back-newcastle-united-14955443?_ga=2.209186896.335219161.1532622042-1932144212.1525200812
https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/aleksandar-mitrovic-returns-newcastle-training-14956996
I would be very disappointed to miss out on mitro. We know him, he likes us, exactly the type of striker we need for our style. In many ways this of all signings is the one we should have paid up for.
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-leicester-city-leading-race-14956786
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
Don't forget Mawson...
Basically anyone whose last name begins with an M.
We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
Today has been rather dull on rumours front, not even a mention anywhere.... what is Tony playing at
Quote from: FFC NY on July 26, 2018, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
Don't forget Mawson...
Basically anyone whose last name begins with an M.
We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
Marcelo.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 06:48:44 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 26, 2018, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
Don't forget Mawson...
Basically anyone whose last name begins with an M.
We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
Marcelo.
Matt Targett?
Quote from: glenhodgso on July 26, 2018, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 06:48:44 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 26, 2018, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
Don't forget Mawson...
Basically anyone whose last name begins with an M.
We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
Marcelo.
Matt Targett?
Matt Smith ?
No one is going to pay 20 mil for Mitro except FFC. He lacks pace and quickness. I'd say he's worth about 15 mil. However, he fits us like 20 year old buxom blondes fit all our egos. Phony up the 20 mil and lets get this done.
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 26, 2018, 07:13:32 PM
No one is going to pay 20 mil for Mitro except FFC. He lacks pace and quickness. I'd say he's worth about 15 mil. However, he fits us like 20 year old buxom blondes fit all our egos. Phony up the 20 mil and lets get this done.
This assessment is very true.
Quote from: grandad on July 26, 2018, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: glenhodgso on July 26, 2018, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 06:48:44 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 26, 2018, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
Don't forget Mawson...
Basically anyone whose last name begins with an M.
We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
Marcelo.
Matt Targett?
Matt Smith ?
That's very true, Grandad - Matt Smith was Left Back a lot of the time when with us before....
Left back in the dressing room that is !
:Get Coat gif:
Quote from: grandad on July 26, 2018, 07:10:47 PM
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 26, 2018, 06:48:44 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 26, 2018, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on July 26, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Also have we been linked with any other defenders recently? We look very weak back there.
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
Don't forget Mawson...
Basically anyone whose last name begins with an M.
We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
Marcelo.
Matt Targett?
Matt Smith ?
Malcolm
Other than Mbabu and Malcuit, not as far as I'm aware.
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We could be lining up with Malcuit Mawson (Le) Marchand ???? Need to find a left back beginning Ma
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Not a left back, but I could live with mbappe?!?!
According to Polish sports journalist Mateusz Święcicki, APOEL Nicosia has rejected an offer from SC Freiburg of 4 million euros for his attacking midfielder Roland Sallai (21, photo). In addition to the Breisgauer should therefore also Fulham have thrown an eye on the Hungarian international, who scored nine goals in 29 games last.
I don't think i've seen this link yet
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/arsenal-manchester-city-in-talks-for-monaco-attacking-prospect-nabil-alioui/
Arsenal & Manchester City in talks for Monaco attacking prospect Nabil Alioui
Premier League duo Arsenal and Manchester City are in talks with the entourage of French youth international and AS Monaco attacker Nabil Alioui, according to RMC.
The 19-year-old is currently still on a youth contract, with Monaco seeking to make him sign a professional deal before sending him on loan to satellite club Cercle Brugge.
Fulham are also in touch with the player, who is mooted to be visiting Arsenal's training facilities next week once the U19 EURO competition is over.
On Manchester City's side, they are hoping to take advantage of their good relationship with the player's agents to make a deal happen, with Kevin de Bruyne's representative, Patrick de Koster, well placed to convince Alioui to join the Premier League champions.
Quote from: river phoenix on July 26, 2018, 10:23:34 PM
According to Polish sports journalist Mateusz Święcicki, APOEL Nicosia has rejected an offer from SC Freiburg of 4 million euros for his attacking midfielder Roland Sallai (21, photo). In addition to the Breisgauer should therefore also Fulham have thrown an eye on the Hungarian international, who scored nine goals in 29 games last.
Having been sad enough to youtube those young players - Sallai and Alioui - both look really impressive. Sallai also gets to a really good level on footy manager (for those who are interested in that type of thing).
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on July 26, 2018, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 26, 2018, 07:13:32 PM
No one is going to pay 20 mil for Mitro except FFC. He lacks pace and quickness. I'd say he's worth about 15 mil. However, he fits us like 20 year old buxom blondes fit all our egos. Phony up the 20 mil and lets get this done.
This assessment is very true.
£25m, different story?
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 26, 2018, 10:30:52 PM
I don't think i've seen this link yet
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/arsenal-manchester-city-in-talks-for-monaco-attacking-prospect-nabil-alioui/
Arsenal & Manchester City in talks for Monaco attacking prospect Nabil Alioui
Premier League duo Arsenal and Manchester City are in talks with the entourage of French youth international and AS Monaco attacker Nabil Alioui, according to RMC.
The 19-year-old is currently still on a youth contract, with Monaco seeking to make him sign a professional deal before sending him on loan to satellite club Cercle Brugge.
Fulham are also in touch with the player, who is mooted to be visiting Arsenal's training facilities next week once the U19 EURO competition is over.
On Manchester City's side, they are hoping to take advantage of their good relationship with the player's agents to make a deal happen, with Kevin de Bruyne's representative, Patrick de Koster, well placed to convince Alioui to join the Premier League champions.
Given our signings on top of this, we're making the right moves.
I am really surprised, the Khan's are "all that".
How's Mike Ashley? My Newcastle mates want him hanged. Hung. Whatever.
Quote from: Tabby on July 26, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
The only source that Seri has any issue other than chillbains is a talksport pundit who realistically shouldn't have any inside knowledge.
And chillbains isn't lupus.
Not an expert in autoimmune conditions. Definitely not that familiar with chillblains, so if Tabby is an expert I defer to him.
I don't like to get in to long nuanced medical discussions on footy boards. So I will leave it alone otherwise. Was merely trying to point out how absurdly off the talk sport person seemed.
Fulham tracking Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter
Fulham are ready to make Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter their latest summer signing.
Arter is desperate to quit the south coast after falling out of favour in the second half of last season.
The Republic Ireland international has been recommended to Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic by recently-appointed first-team coach Scott Parker, who is Arter's brother-in-law.
Arter joined Bournemouth from non-league Woking in 2010 and has helped the Cherries climb from League One to the Premier League.
He has not played a league game for the Cherries since New Year's Day
Quote from: grandad on July 26, 2018, 04:28:42 PM
We must sign Mitro sooner rather than later or move on. Mitro knows SJ & our style & would need no time to bed in. A new player would need at least a couple of weeks to bed in. I think Newcastle are dragging it out as we are a direct competitor.
agreed.
Let's face it they could drag it out until the last minute then say no just to shaft us. I wouldn't put it past Ashley tbh.
Then were left with no striker again just like the last 3 seasons.
Quote from: mkras99 on July 27, 2018, 02:03:07 AM
Fulham tracking Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter
Fulham are ready to make Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter their latest summer signing.
Arter is desperate to quit the south coast after falling out of favour in the second half of last season.
The Republic Ireland international has been recommended to Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic by recently-appointed first-team coach Scott Parker, who is Arter's brother-in-law.
Arter joined Bournemouth from non-league Woking in 2010 and has helped the Cherries climb from League One to the Premier League.
He has not played a league game for the Cherries since New Year's Day
Don't think he would be a good signing to be fair
Quote from: @jolslover on July 27, 2018, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 27, 2018, 02:03:07 AM
Fulham tracking Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter
Fulham are ready to make Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter their latest summer signing.
Arter is desperate to quit the south coast after falling out of favour in the second half of last season.
The Republic Ireland international has been recommended to Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic by recently-appointed first-team coach Scott Parker, who is Arter's brother-in-law.
Arter joined Bournemouth from non-league Woking in 2010 and has helped the Cherries climb from League One to the Premier League.
He has not played a league game for the Cherries since New Year's Day
Don't think he would be a good signing to be fair
We really should not go here. If there is any truth in it then Scotty should realise that this would've a management nightmare
Quote from: @jolslover on July 27, 2018, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 27, 2018, 02:03:07 AM
Fulham tracking Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter
Fulham are ready to make Bournemouth midfielder Harry Arter their latest summer signing.
Arter is desperate to quit the south coast after falling out of favour in the second half of last season.
The Republic Ireland international has been recommended to Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic by recently-appointed first-team coach Scott Parker, who is Arter's brother-in-law.
Arter joined Bournemouth from non-league Woking in 2010 and has helped the Cherries climb from League One to the Premier League.
He has not played a league game for the Cherries since New Year's Day
Don't think he would be a good signing to be fair
Depends on fee to be honest. For £4m or less I'd happily take him. Currently we only have Johansen covering all three midfield roles. If injuries become a problem we are in trouble.
Mitrovic transfer to us is in top ten whispers.
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Crouchie must have failed his medical then😭
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 27, 2018, 09:32:22 AM
Crouchie must have failed his medical then😭
Jumpers altitude sickness?
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 27, 2018, 09:27:26 AM
Mitrovic transfer to us is in top ten whispers.
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My understanding is barrios won't be going anywhere until January..
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 26, 2018, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: river phoenix on July 26, 2018, 10:23:34 PM
According to Polish sports journalist Mateusz Święcicki, APOEL Nicosia has rejected an offer from SC Freiburg of 4 million euros for his attacking midfielder Roland Sallai (21, photo). In addition to the Breisgauer should therefore also Fulham have thrown an eye on the Hungarian international, who scored nine goals in 29 games last.
Having been sad enough to youtube those young players - Sallai and Alioui - both look really impressive. Sallai also gets to a really good level on footy manager (for those who are interested in that type of thing).
I have signed him before on FM18 for Parma (in Serie B) and can confirm he is a good prospect for lower level prem teams :dft011:
Replaced a couple of seasons after surviving in Serie A by Simone Lo Faso; a much better (and more expensive) prospect.
'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2018, 10:43:20 AM
'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.
So it must be a great surprise that Newcastle have received no huge offers for him ?
This is the third transfer window in which he's topped their for sale list and publicity generated by Newcastle about Rafa seeing no future for him at the club has seriously devalued their player
Most sides dont play with a target player type of striker. The preference is for mobile ,fast forwards who can quickly transition into attack and press in the opponents final third at times. These sides (Liverpool etc ) are not ball hoofers ,but not possession based ,like us either.
Mitro suits us perfectly,as his first touch under pressure is very good ,and he is also a huge asset for us in BOTH boxes at set-pieces (our achilees heel for years ).His hold up play has been great when we have had lots of possesion in the opponents half,but not many teams in the PL play this way, and the ones that do City ,Arsenal etc can afford better options than Mitro. Bennitez teams are more defensive and Counter -attacking/pressing ,not strengths of the big man. These points go a long way to explain why not too many big offers have come in for other clubs .
Is he worth 20 mill? I would suggest that the arguements above strengthen the case that ,for us he clearly is so important that he is worth that type of sum.
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2018, 10:43:20 AM
'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.
So it must be a great surprise that Newcastle have received no huge offers for him ?
This is the third transfer window in which he's topped their for sale list and publicity generated by Newcastle about Rafa seeing no future for him at the club has seriously devalued their player
I think if it goes right down to the wire, you'll find clubs willing to pay 20m for his services. Especially championship clubs.
Anyone know exactly when Newcastle fly out today? ... If Mitrovic goes with the squad abroad, do people think we should forget about him and move on to searching for another striker?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2018, 11:11:53 AM
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 27, 2018, 10:43:20 AM
'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.
So it must be a great surprise that Newcastle have received no huge offers for him ?
This is the third transfer window in which he's topped their for sale list and publicity generated by Newcastle about Rafa seeing no future for him at the club has seriously devalued their player
I think if it goes right down to the wire, you'll find clubs willing to pay 20m for his services. Especially championship clubs.
If there had been any interest Newcastle would have made sure that we and everyone else knew about it - I think a Championship club could afford to loan him but I doubt any have the FFP space to buy him for that price - there is also the issue of will he put pen to paper for any other club.
The ways forward is to find an alternative and make them a take it or leave it offer because his value is going to seriously tumble if he is not sold in this transfer window
Daniel Caligiuri would be quite the coup for Fulham(https://cdn.footballtransfertavern.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Daniel-Caligiuri..jpg)
Fulham's excellent business in the transfer window has given them an excellent chance at staying up next year.The Cottagers finally returned to the Premier League after a four absence after defeating Aston Villa in the play-off final. Due to the strength of the promoted sides and the money available to Premier League teams, avoiding relegation will be harder than ever. Fulham have wasted no time in bolstering their ranks.
Slavisa Jokanovic secured the signature of Ivorian midfielder Jean Michael Seri despite interest from both Arsenal and Chelsea. The Serb also landed Fabri from Fenerbache and Maxime le Marchand from Nice. The Cottagers also pulled off a massive coup by securing the services of Andre Schurrle on loan from Borussia Dortmund.
Following Ryan Fredericks departure to West Ham, Jokanovic will be searching for a replacement.
To continue their great window, Fulham should make a move for Schalke wideman – Daniel Caligiuri. Valued at £6.75m by Transfermarkt, the 30-year-old was one of the top performers in the Bundesliga last season after arriving from Wolfsburg back in January 2017. He scored six goals and registered ten assists with an average rating of 7.57 according to WhoScored – only James Rodriguez averaged higher in the entire division.
Compared to Fredericks, Caligiuri averaged significantly more interceptions and tackles per 90 minutes. Offensively, the Italian came out on top – averaging more key passes, crosses and successful dribbles per game than the Englishman (WhoScored).
His low value could see Fulham pick up the bargain of the summer.
https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/fulham/daniel-caligiuri-would-be-quite-the-coup-for-fulham/
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:20:49 AM
Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.
However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.
Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.
You need to take into account:-1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?
On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 11:39:21 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:20:49 AM
Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.
However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.
Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.
You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?
On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey
Actually Rafa confirmed there's been multiple enquiries to Mitro's availability and they have had at least loan offers from abroad but he knows what Mitro wants and wants it resolved best for all parties. In regards to FFP and championship clubs, if the recent QPR/bournmouth segment has taught us anything, it's, you can flaunt these rules and worst case you'll get a 17m slap on the wrist and the odd embargo compared to the 100m+ windfall if you do go up. Clubs will find 20m for him, albeit I hear Newcastle want upfront rather than in instalments so thats the only rough spot for them if anything. I honestly can't believe considering how bizarre the current window is, that people don't think Mitro is worth 20m.
Roberty's Q.1 is key, but if there were now another interested party it is unfortunately not inevitable that we would be hearing about it, and in the event that Newcastle were now asking for more, the arrival of competition would actually be the likeliest explanation.
Any such club would by defintion be in a top league here or elsewhere, so yes, if they really were interested then 2. they probably could match our personal terms and 3. they might appeal to the player, particularly in circumstances which had changed from his expectations. Not saying any of that is nailed on, but it's hardly out the question.
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 11:39:21 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:20:49 AM
Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.
However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.
Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.
You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?
On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey
if we catch the monkey at some point in the next 13 days then fine but in the meantime i remain bloody worried!
Slowly slowly miss the boat.
Quote from: b+w geezer on July 27, 2018, 11:52:37 AM
Roberty's Q.1 is key, but if there were now another interested party it is unfortunately not inevitable that we would be hearing about it, and in the event that Newcastle were now asking for more, the arrival of competition would actually be the likeliest explanation.
Given that everyone knows that we are interested - an offer from another club would be in the local newspaper like a flash
They are owned and run but so-called "London Wideboys" and they all know about the power of publicity - if you doubt it just look at any Sports Direct window
Quote from: the nutflush on July 27, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:42:06 AM
if we catch the monkey at some point in the next 13 days then fine but in the meantime i remain bloody worried!
Slowly slowly miss the boat.
This boat has a departure date and time that Newcastle have to work with if they want him out before the new year
We on the other hand we can and should be looking at who else is available - our transfer business so far has been full of surprises, not only the quality of them but I also doubt that any of the new players was on anyone's list before they shipped up to Motspur Park for their medical. So I would expect the same with the other player that we still need.
Quote from: colinwhite on July 27, 2018, 11:06:23 AM
Most sides dont play with a target player type of striker. The preference is for mobile ,fast forwards who can quickly transition into attack and press in the opponents final third at times. These sides (Liverpool etc ) are not ball hoofers ,but not possession based ,like us either.
Mitro suits us perfectly,as his first touch under pressure is very good ,and he is also a huge asset for us in BOTH boxes at set-pieces (our achilees heel for years ).His hold up play has been great when we have had lots of possesion in the opponents half,but not many teams in the PL play this way, and the ones that do City ,Arsenal etc can afford better options than Mitro. Bennitez teams are more defensive and Counter -attacking/pressing ,not strengths of the big man. These points go a long way to explain why not too many big offers have come in for other clubs .
Is he worth 20 mill? I would suggest that the arguements above strengthen the case that ,for us he clearly is so important that he is worth that type of sum.
Exactly Colin.
There are not many like him out there.
All the more reason to ensure we get him and not someone else.
Another who fits our system so well, will be hard to find.
Come Fulham, sort it out now!
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on July 27, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:42:06 AM
if we catch the monkey at some point in the next 13 days then fine but in the meantime i remain bloody worried!
Slowly slowly miss the boat.
This boat has a departure date and time that Newcastle have to work with if they want him out before the new year
We on the other hand we can and should be looking at who else is available - our transfer business so far has been full of surprises, not only the quality of them but I also doubt that any of the new players was on anyone's list before they shipped up to Motspur Park for their medical. So I would expect the same with the other player that we still need.
As an FYI, I might seem like i'm super keen on Mitro but in all honesty, if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. I just think A) hes worth 20m in current window and B) someone will end up paying in that region unless they loan him and run down his contract (which is perfectly possible). if we don't get him and Slav gets a similar striker in record and potential then so be it. I just think he's 100% worth 20m in current market.
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 12:00:22 PM
Given that everyone knows that we are interested - an offer from another club would be in the local newspaper like a flash
They are owned and run but so-called "London Wideboys" and they all know about the power of publicity
Agreed as highly possible, but not as inevitable, because all clubs (even Newcastle) keep some things from public notice, for example at the insistence of the other party who has made it a condition. In the event Fulham had been spun that line (another offer exists but cofidentiality forbids divulging from whom) our guys would have to make a call as to the veracity.
I'm absolutely not affirming that has taken place, merely that it could do.
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 11:39:21 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 27, 2018, 11:20:49 AM
Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.
However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.
Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.
You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?
On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey
But as we are direct competitors to Newcastle this season, they can sit on it to stop us getting him.
I don't believe they are as financially strapped as they make out. This is borne out by the 2 recent signings by them.
The difficulty we have finding a player that fits as well with us this late in the window is the problem imo.
We should pay the £20m and move onto defensive frailties in the squad.
To enter a 4th season without a No. 9 would be criminally inept from a recruitment pov.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 27, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
To enter a 4th season without a No. 9 would be criminally inept from a recruitment pov.
This. Completely and utterly correct.
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 27, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
But as we are direct competitors to Newcastle this season, they can sit on it to stop us getting him.
I don't believe they are as financially strapped as they make out. This is born out by the 2 recent signings by them.
The difficulty we have finding a player that fits as well with us this late in the window is the problem imo.
We should pay the £20m and move onto defensive frailties in the squad.
To enter a 4th season without a No. 9 would be criminally inept from a recruitment pov.
I didn't suppose that they needed the money for one minute - they were supposed to be offering Rafa £100m to spend on transfers if he signs a new contract
It doesn't change the fact that they do not want him and will not play him - if they wait long enough he will have no value at all
I sincerely hope we are working on other positions and options for his position - the frustrating thing with our club is that they've always been good at keeping secrets
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
They were supposed to be offering Rafa £100m to spend on transfers if he signs a new contract - that means they have money
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
Mitrovic clearly wants to move to Fulham and all reports are saying he's agreed terms with us. Players have all the power and if he says he doesn't want to go anywhere else, he won't.
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
They were supposed to be offering Rafa £100m to spend on transfers if he signs a new contract - that means they have money
All that means, is the club looks much more lucrative with Rafa as manager on a longer term deal. the deal that almost went through was with a direct condition that Rafa was part of the buy out. Ashley has money, but he knows what he needs to sell at maximum price he wants. This scenario, I agree doesn't help us with mitro at all.
Mitrovic is easily worth 20m in the current market in my opinion. Not sure why we are messing around with this one. Without him we are not in the Premier League right now.
Mitro is worth £20m to US and the way we play, look at the names we've had that promised a lot Marlet,Cole, Bent albeit the last two at the wrong end of their careers.....having tried before buying we know Mitro fits into our jigsaw perfectly and I think we need him for the team as well as the fans, we should pay what is needed but then make it public how Newcastle have behaved.
He could become another Fulham legend. 049:gif
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
They were supposed to be offering Rafa £100m to spend on transfers if he signs a new contract - that means they have money
That was £100m over three years, so £33m new money every year which isn't really that much in this day and age. Cardiff spent that on 4 average Championship players.
@wooly.... You promised us all a hive of activity within 48hrs at the beggining of the week and all that happened was Schurrle!
Where is our CB, LB and Striker....... Announcement?
Playing a dangerous game with high wing backs and 2 CBs of which haven't played together - risky strategy!
Player A, I thought you were going for the ball, Player B, I thought you were going for the ball.
Fabri, where is my defence?
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
They were supposed to be offering Rafa £100m to spend on transfers if he signs a new contract - that means they have money
exactly this. this is the point people are missing. Newcastle are not hard up for money. it is a bargaining tool they are using to get benitez to sign a new contract. they are having an internal stand off
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 27, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 27, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
To enter a 4th season without a No. 9 would be criminally inept from a recruitment pov.
This. Completely and utterly correct.
Although we got away with it last season I think the same could be said of a tall commanding centre half.
The quality of the few signings to date gives me some confidence for the season, the overall paucity of activity with just 2 weeks to go gives me great concern
Quote from: corbs83 on July 27, 2018, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 27, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money, loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages
They were supposed to be offering Rafa £100m to spend on transfers if he signs a new contract - that means they have money
exactly this. this is the point people are missing. Newcastle are not hard up for money. it is a bargaining tool they are using to get benitez to sign a new contract. they are having an internal stand off
I don't think anyone disagrees that a) Ashley doesn't have money to spend if he wanted to and B) that Newcastle of 'hard up'. We all knew the situation was an internal struggle to find a buyer for Ashley at the highest possible price.....
Do agree with the comments above - what we're lacking & need is a strong 'target man' CF, a commanding CB & a LB. If the Mitro deal has been scuppered then we need to look elsewhere, hard as that may be to swallow.
Other players we're loosely linked with would be 'nice to have' ... but surely we should be majoring on the above.
Hector Herrera ?
http://www.record.com.mx/futbol-futbol-internacional-mexicanos-en-el-extranjero/fulham-ya-hizo-una-oferta-al-porto-por-hector
Quote from: David I on July 27, 2018, 01:16:19 PM
@wooly.... You promised us all a hive of activity within 48hrs at the beggining of the week and all that happened was Schurrle!
Where is our CB, LB and Striker....... Announcement?
Playing a dangerous game with high wing backs and 2 CBs of which haven't played together - risky strategy!
Player A, I thought you were going for the ball, Player B, I thought you were going for the ball.
Fabri, where is my defence?
He promised and said two signings, maybe three would be made early this week.. and you've clearly not been paying attention as we did exactly what he said and signed a new GK in Fabri and signed schurrle.
He also said we could see another 2 or three come in by midway through next week.. with a LB, RCB, and possible another CM on the way.
I think the other he was perhaps hoping and expecting to be over the line by now is mitrovic, and he can only go on what his source in the club tells him. By the sounds and looks of it fulham and Mitro have agreed personal terms and Mitro looked annoyed to be at Newcastle's training ground for his first fay back from holidays which would suggest he also expected not to be there.
What's come to light since is that Newcastle seem to be playing hardball re the fee for him despite having no interest in using him and having hardly used him to date. This is because they hardly have any cash and because he did well for us in the Championship last season. It may go down to the wire.
I assume though and hope the club is pursuing other options (eg willian jose), a player more established and of similar ilk as to not be held to ransom. Also as someone else mentioned going into a fourth season without an out and out striker on the books who can actually do a job for us would be sheer ineptitude from the transfer team.
Someone has signed a new contract...
Someone has signed a new contract....
Goddamn deeping thats freaky haha
Sess or joka
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It does make me laugh all these folk who have people ITK, In reality it's guessing game and odds are that we will sign a couple next week also. Do you think if the press cannot find out info from our club then some one on here who has a mate who works at the local garage where the kit cleaner fills his car up is going to be able to find anything out.
Fulham is a closed loop club, we don't release anything to the media nor to anyone and only when the deal looks set does it get out the press, even then what is reported is mostly made up garbage to sell papers.
All being said I do enjoy abit of gossip so crack on with your ITK stuff it makes my day pass quicker
They are going to ride this out until 3pm arent they...b*****ds
KMac new deal - 2 years
Hector Herrera is a 28 y-o Mexican midfielder, playing for Porto. Is he what we need?
Quote from: Bracken White on July 27, 2018, 03:03:18 PM
Hector Herrera is a 28 y-o Mexican midfielder, playing for Porto. Is he what we need?
Not really, CF, CB, LB (probably in that order) are our key priorities.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 27, 2018, 03:03:18 PM
Hector Herrera is a 28 y-o Mexican midfielder, playing for Porto. Is he what we need?
Certainly seems another ambitious one though as he was linked with Arsenal a couple of days ago. Roma and Inter Milan have apparently also made enquiries.
Would rather we signed a Midfielder on the cheap/on loan/on a free like Miguel Veloso or Claudio Yacob and had them as back up so we'd have McDonald, Cairney, Seri starting and then Johansen and the new one on the bench. Herrera would be very expensive, and Midfield's our best area in-terms of depth. Even O'Riley wouldn't be a horrible option to have on the bench.
Need to sign some defenders ASAP. More important than signing a Striker even, because we could always play Schurrle up-front and have AK47 as the RW which I'd expect to see in one of the games at the weekend.
Harry Arter out of favour at Bournemouth - has fallen out with Eddie Howe. Brother-in-law of Mr Parker. We have other priorities, and I think central midfield is one of our strengths. And falling out with a reasonable man like Eddie Howe? not a good sign. Any interest as back-up / squad player?
You simply do not want any potential issues of nepotism or unintended favouritism in the dressing room - especially with an inexperienced coach. Do not even think about especially given the fact that the guy has fallen out with Eddie Howe!
Harry Arter is a good midfielder, very combative and a ROI international. Also Eddie Howe, is a very good manager, but you don't get to be a good manager in the premiership unless you are very tough and ruthless. Sentiment doesn't get you or keep you up, I think it's harsh to say Arter fell out with a reasonable manager like Howe. Bournemouth has a bad start to the season, but recovered well, Howe probably decided Arter didn't fit how he wanted to play. They stayed up, he was right. Arter wants to play regularly, who can blame him. Nothing wrong with either party for that.
Is Harry Arter better than anyone is our current midfield? Probably not, so I can't see much benefit of signing squad fillers when there are much more pressing concerns.
Arter coming makes no sense. We need to upgrade, and he has nothing that our current midfield don't have. Seri has magic (apparently) and Schurrle has moves and scoring prowess..... Arter is ROTM.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
I'm starting to get an inkling that KMac will drop to CB
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
I'm starting to get an inkling that KMac will drop to CB
But he's got no pace though and is he really a good enough CB for the premiership?
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Hmmmm. Didnt think of that.Surely one would be cover for the other though in case of injury , because whatever happens we need a proven CB desperately.
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
I'm starting to get an inkling that KMac will drop to CB
Im thinking more as cover or maybe even starying as Kmac is not proven in Prem.Saying that neither is Herrera so who knows ?
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
I'm starting to get an inkling that KMac will drop to CB
We need a squad. Having McDonald and Johansen as CM back ups is good.
Wouldn't be surprised if a promotion hopeful championship club have wanted Macdonald and we made him sign a new contract to get more money for him, or he would be good squad depth for the Premiership if he does particularly want to stay.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
This I read as meaning the David Lopez quest is over .
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Quote from: GJB on July 27, 2018, 05:28:16 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if a promotion hopeful championship club have wanted Macdonald and we made him sign a new contract to get more money for him, or he would be good squad depth for the Premiership if he does particularly want to stay.
I'm sure that the whole situation regarding the up and coming season was explained to Kmac before he signed the new contract. After all he is the real motivational Captain on the pitch!
Quote from: Riverside on July 27, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
This I read as meaning the David Lopez quest is over .
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Why would trying to buy a central midfielder stop us buying a centre half?
Liam Moore of Reading has handed in a transfer request according to Sky.Come on Fulham get this one done.
As of today, there's been a £35m cash injection into the club in the form of shares which may be an indication of intent in the transfer market over the next two weeks.
https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1022868095214399489
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on July 27, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Liam Moore of Reading has handed in a transfer request according to Sky.Come on Fulham get this one done.
Been wanting us to sign Liam Moore for years now. Think he could easily be the next championship CB success story after Maguire, Dunk and Tarkowski.
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on July 27, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Liam Moore of Reading has handed in a transfer request according to Sky.Come on Fulham get this one done.
Been wanting us to sign Liam Moore for years now. Think he could easily be the next championship CB success story after Maguire, Dunk and Tarkowski.
Decent player but has only ever made a couple of appearances in the Premier League for Leicester. Wold really prefer to splash the cash on Mawson
Brighton have been pursuing Moore for some time now & I suspect the player has now handed in a transfer request to force the move
I havent heard much interest in Liam Moore from other clubs other than Brightin in a while so unless his agent may have had a word in his ear that other clubs are interested I cannot see why he would hand in a transfer request.I think he could be a very useful signing imo.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
I'm starting to get an inkling that KMac will drop to CB
There are times when what he does is very similar to a role in the Stones/Maguire/Walker set up England deployed. He always looks happy doing it. Frankly on the occasions where injury or sending offs have led to him playing CB, he's looked totally comfortable. He's got the one quality any CB in our system needs: opponents can't get the ball off him.
KMac at CH,certainly as cover for defence/midfield.For me he should start v palace mishield as inspirational in the side the last 2years!
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 27, 2018, 05:44:22 PM
As of today, there's been a £35m cash injection into the club in the form of shares which may be an indication of intent in the transfer market over the next two weeks.
https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1022868095214399489
that's interesting - benefit of having an owner with 100% stake. Wonder what it's for though. Wonder if it will happen with each set of major signings. Our outgoings so far don't seemingly exceed 35GBP by much yet, so with that injection I wonder how it affects our status financially re FFP.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 26, 2018, 06:38:31 PM
Today has been rather dull on rumours front, not even a mention anywhere.... what is Tony playing at
Exactly, what the hell is going on?? Think its time for TK to go if he isn't signing anybody!!
Quote from: cookieg on July 27, 2018, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 26, 2018, 06:38:31 PM
Today has been rather dull on rumours front, not even a mention anywhere.... what is Tony playing at
Exactly, what the hell is going on?? Think its time for TK to go if he isn't signing anybody!!
Quote from: cookieg on July 27, 2018, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 26, 2018, 06:38:31 PM
Today has been rather dull on rumours front, not even a mention anywhere.... what is Tony playing at
Exactly, what the hell is going on?? Think its time for TK to go if he isn't signing anybody!!
I am sure he is saying don't panic,don't panic!!
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Our back four is sounding decidedly makeshift with the latest suggestion of Moving McDonald back to centre half.
We need a Premiership centre half of quality, we have needed one for a long time but try patching up the back four this season and we will pay the price of a relegation fight.
Quote from: filham on July 27, 2018, 06:55:09 PM
Our back four is sounding decidedly makeshift with the latest suggestion of Moving McDonald back to centre half.
We need a Premiership centre half of quality, we have needed one for a long time but try patching up the back four this season and we will pay the price of a relegation fight.
I don't think Kmac will move the defence I actually feel the sighing of his contract is tie him down so we have numbers and a fantastic part of the squad as a back up if we sign this Herrera chap
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
Does sports at the Telegraph.
Fair enough. Can't say I'd heard of him, but let's hope he's 100% accurate in this case.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
Does sports at the Telegraph.
Fair enough. Can't say I'd heard of him, but let's hope he's 100% accurate in this case.
Didn't catch it before the correction, but he is a freelancer. He gets featured in a load of papers.
And I agree.
I'm at a loss to understand where the Mawson story is going - he had a knee operation at the end of last season and is still recovering - so presumably not fit for the start of the season and no certain date for a come back - isn't that too much of a risk for £20m
Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
presumably not fit for the start of the season and no certain date for a come back
Hes back in training & hopes to be ready for the start of the season, according to Hillingdon FFC four days ago.
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
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Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
Does sports at the Telegraph.
Fair enough. Can't say I'd heard of him, but let's hope he's 100% accurate in this case.
Didn't catch it before the correction, but he is a freelancer. He gets featured in a load of papers.
And I agree.
Are we sure that's the actual journos account and not a fake. Seems weird that someone who writes for different papers would have less than 300 followers, wouldn't be verified and their only tweet about transfers is the Mawson one from half an hour ago.
Would be a very long con if it isn't him.
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Quote from: Roberty on July 27, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
presumably not fit for the start of the season and no certain date for a come back
Hes back in training & hopes to be ready for the start of the season, according to Hillingdon FFC four days ago.
Hope is a wonderful thing - we were hoping that TC would be fit for the start of last season - didn't happen - problem with AM is that whoever buys him will not know until AFTER the transfer window is closed
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 07:23:35 PM
Would be a very long con if it isn't him.
LOL - this is exactly what I thought and why I posted it.
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 27, 2018, 03:03:18 PM
Hector Herrera is a 28 y-o Mexican midfielder, playing for Porto. Is he what we need?
Certainly seems another ambitious one though as he was linked with Arsenal a couple of days ago. Roma and Inter Milan have apparently also made enquiries.
I have not seen him with Porto, although have read he is their captain. That is a good sign.
He has always impressed me with the Mexican national team. Tough and sound without being a dirty player like some can be. He and Guardado were very good together in a 2 man midfield at the WC. I would be pleased with the signing. Really encouraged by the type of player the club keeps getting linked with. Just hope they can get enough of them over the line.
West Ham after Moussa Marega from Porto, we should be looking at him, big, strong and fast their top scorer in the league last season with 22 goals
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
Does sports at the Telegraph.
Fair enough. Can't say I'd heard of him, but let's hope he's 100% accurate in this case.
Didn't catch it before the correction, but he is a freelancer. He gets featured in a load of papers.
And I agree.
Are we sure that's the actual journos account and not a fake. Seems weird that someone who writes for different papers would have less than 300 followers, wouldn't be verified and their only tweet about transfers is the Mawson one from half an hour ago.
Yep he was confirmed as being legit by Tom Barclay of the sun, from his verified account. He responded to the White Noise twitter account to say that Mawson is very likely, as is Mitro following shortly after, so perhaps uncle Shad's £35m loan into the club covers the two of them
Quote from: ollienixs on July 27, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
West Ham after Moussa Marega from Porto, we should be looking at him, big, strong and fast their top scorer in the league last season with 22 goals
Not sure about real life (never seen him play), but he's incredible on Fifa so he gets the thumbs up for that alone
Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder)
7/27/18, 2:47 PM
Mitrovic has travelled to Portugal with #nufc but Fulham still looking to sign the Serbia international.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 27, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 27, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
Does sports at the Telegraph.
Fair enough. Can't say I'd heard of him, but let's hope he's 100% accurate in this case.
Didn't catch it before the correction, but he is a freelancer. He gets featured in a load of papers.
And I agree.
Are we sure that's the actual journos account and not a fake. Seems weird that someone who writes for different papers would have less than 300 followers, wouldn't be verified and their only tweet about transfers is the Mawson one from half an hour ago.
Yep he was confirmed as being legit by Tom Barclay of the sun, from his verified account. He responded to the White Noise twitter account to say that Mawson is very likely, as is Mitro following shortly after, so perhaps uncle Shad's £35m loan into the club covers the two of them
Yes this seems very likely and also equates to the figures roughly of what has been mentioned in the press etc.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 27, 2018, 07:49:49 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on July 27, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
West Ham after Moussa Marega from Porto, we should be looking at him, big, strong and fast their top scorer in the league last season with 22 goals
Not sure about real life (never seen him play), but he's incredible on Fifa so he gets the thumbs up for that alone
A friend of mine who is a massive football fan, watched all sorts of crap said he is an exciting prospect who is raw power
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Darren Witcoop is reporting that Mawson is on for £20m
Who?
That's him that looks after the carrier pigeons.🐦🐦🐦
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Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder)
7/27/18, 2:47 PM
Mitrovic has travelled to Portugal with #nufc but Fulham still looking to sign the Serbia international.
They weren't going to leave him behind and weaken their negotiating position. In this case it's one where I wish the window still ran until the end of August- because as soon as Mitrovic wasn't in the 18 for their first one or two games we'd be able to get him for what we wanted.
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Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder)
7/27/18, 2:47 PM
Mitrovic has travelled to Portugal with #nufc but Fulham still looking to sign the Serbia international.
They weren't going to leave him behind and weaken their negotiating position. In this case it's one where I wish the window still ran until the end of August- because as soon as Mitrovic wasn't in the 18 for their first one or two games we'd be able to get him for what we wanted.
Makes sense, they're making him sweat.
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Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder)
7/27/18, 2:47 PM
Mitrovic has travelled to Portugal with #nufc but Fulham still looking to sign the Serbia international.
They weren't going to leave him behind and weaken their negotiating position. In this case it's one where I wish the window still ran until the end of August- because as soon as Mitrovic wasn't in the 18 for their first one or two games we'd be able to get him for what we wanted.
Makes sense, they're making him sweat.
he needs to be match fit. no point staying at home.
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Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder)
7/27/18, 2:47 PM
Mitrovic has travelled to Portugal with #nufc but Fulham still looking to sign the Serbia international.
They weren't going to leave him behind and weaken their negotiating position. In this case it's one where I wish the window still ran until the end of August- because as soon as Mitrovic wasn't in the 18 for their first one or two games we'd be able to get him for what we wanted.
Makes sense, they're making him sweat.
he needs to be match fit. no point staying at home.
True but I understood the alternative was to train with the reserves.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/race-sign-swansea-citys-alfie-14962585
Mawson pretty much done although someone else has come in for him. He wants to come to us but if the other mob better our wage offer it could cause problems.
Personally think we should be ok
I know he got us up with the 12 goals since February but I think we should walk away and just fcuk Ashley over!
There are better strikers available elsewhere in Europe that will do a brilliant job and Schurrle can play in that position as well.
If Mawson is done. then go and buy a top right winger, some excellent ones in Ligue 1, play Schurrle @ Striker and then go and get Targett from Southampton - offer them £10m, they will deal!
End of all dealing ins by Wednesday!
Swansea City Online
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BREAKING: Race to sign Swansea City's Alfie Mawson blown wide open as Fulham join Burnley and West Ham United in hunt #swans #whufc #twitterclarets #FulhamFC
Swansea looking to stoke a bidding war then with that message
Quote from: FFC73 on July 27, 2018, 09:16:22 PM
Swansea looking to stoke a bidding war then with that message
It is a twitter account of Wales Online, not the club.
Sky bet pushed us favourites again after this recent twitter post about Mawson, now at 8/11
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Lee Ryder (@lee_ryder)
7/27/18, 2:47 PM
Mitrovic has travelled to Portugal with #nufc but Fulham still looking to sign the Serbia international.
They weren't going to leave him behind and weaken their negotiating position. In this case it's one where I wish the window still ran until the end of August- because as soon as Mitrovic wasn't in the 18 for their first one or two games we'd be able to get him for what we wanted.
Makes sense, they're making him sweat.
he needs to be match fit. no point staying at home.
True but I understood the alternative was to train with the reserves.
Or stay at home and play with himself!!
Occured to me today that Mawson would be a logical replacement for McGuire if he goes to man utd.
If they came in for him i think they get him.
https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/07/27/rumors-fulham-spree-continues-with-links-to-mawson-herrera-battaglia/
Very excited about the players we keep being linked with. Herrera is just like a better, more skilful version of Kmac, great tackler and passer of the ball. A midfield of him, Seri and Cairney would surely be dreamland - with Kmac and Johansen providing very good strength in depth on the bench.
Getting slightly worried about our (possible) lack of height though. Hope we sign some pretty tall players in defensive and attacking positions or we could get murdered at set pieces.
I really think it would be a mistake to miss out on mitro. Perfect striker for our style, he wants to be here, works his nuts off.
Mawson would be a great signing imo
22:51
TRIO IN MAWSON TALKS
Fulham, Burnley and West Ham were all in talks to sign Alfie Mawson from Swansea on Friday, according to Sky sources.
The Swans want more than £20m for the centre-back, who is still getting back to fitness following knee surgery at the end of last season.
West Ham has a number of offers rejected earlier in the summer as they bid for both Mawson and keeper Lucasz Fabianski, whom they signed in June.
Sky Sports News reported earlier this month that Burnley had opened discussions as they prepare for their first season in European competition.
And now Fulham, who want another centre-back after signing Maxime Le Marchand, have come in for Mawson in the last 24 hours, Sky Sports News understands.
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https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/995360/Fulham-transfer-news-Alfie-Mawson-Swansea
Quote from: corbs83 on July 27, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
22:51
TRIO IN MAWSON TALKS
Fulham, Burnley and West Ham were all in talks to sign Alfie Mawson from Swansea on Friday, according to Sky sources.
The Swans want more than £20m for the centre-back, who is still getting back to fitness following knee surgery at the end of last season.
West Ham has a number of offers rejected earlier in the summer as they bid for both Mawson and keeper Lucasz Fabianski, whom they signed in June.
Sky Sports News reported earlier this month that Burnley had opened discussions as they prepare for their first season in European competition.
And now Fulham, who want another centre-back after signing Maxime Le Marchand, have come in for Mawson in the last 24 hours, Sky Sports News understands.
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Worried that Wet Spam are in for him also. The prospect of a big pay packet and playing under Pellegrini presents big competition for us.
Edit: The post directly above does make me feel a bit better though.
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Quote from: corbs83 on July 27, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
22:51
TRIO IN MAWSON TALKS
Fulham, Burnley and West Ham were all in talks to sign Alfie Mawson from Swansea on Friday, according to Sky sources.
The Swans want more than £20m for the centre-back, who is still getting back to fitness following knee surgery at the end of last season.
West Ham has a number of offers rejected earlier in the summer as they bid for both Mawson and keeper Lucasz Fabianski, whom they signed in June.
Sky Sports News reported earlier this month that Burnley had opened discussions as they prepare for their first season in European competition.
And now Fulham, who want another centre-back after signing Maxime Le Marchand, have come in for Mawson in the last 24 hours, Sky Sports News understands.
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Worried that Wet Spam are in for him also. The prospect of a big pay packet and playing under Pellegrini presents big competition for us.
That's who I assume westcliffe meant when he said the other mob offering more money could cause issues
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Would hope to see a Mawson/Mitrovic double signing next week.
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Quote from: Sir Craven on July 27, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Agreed - I think I'd rather us spend that money on Lopez even though he doesn't have PL experience
Mawson's right footed, just played at LCB with Swansea because they were playing Kyle Naughton at RCB. Either that, or he's very strong on his right foot. Evidence:
https://twitter.com/BobbyGardiner/status/975009396601376769
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 11:52:46 PM
Mawson's right footed, just played at LCB with Swansea because they were playing Kyle Naughton at RCB. Either that, or he's very strong on his right foot. Evidence:
https://twitter.com/BobbyGardiner/status/975009396601376769
He's got a cracking right foot by the looks of things. I would be happy with him at £25 mil
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 27, 2018, 11:52:46 PM
Mawson's right footed, just played at LCB with Swansea because they were playing Kyle Naughton at RCB. Either that, or he's very strong on his right foot. Evidence:
https://twitter.com/BobbyGardiner/status/975009396601376769
I'd love to see that right boot pinging diagonal balls over to Sessegnon
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https://youtu.be/QIWBUn-ss3Q
Seems to play with both feet. Scores a cracking volley with his right.
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sir Craven on July 27, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Agreed - I think I'd rather us spend that money on Lopez even though he doesn't have PL experience
Mawsons right footed. Im delighted we didnt spunk 25m on a near 29 year old converted midfielder with no resale value
Mawson is 24, has prospered after early knocks in his career, he has desire & heart. He can get better & potentially move for more money. Premier league experience, Speak to Swansea fans & they'll tell you how good he was in a poor side. On top of that hes English
Its a no brainer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6001155/Fulham-told-pay-25m-sign-Swansea-defender-Alfie-Mawson.html
I'll maintain if we want to spend that sort of money on a Centre-Back I'd want to see it spent on Kevin Vogt, but signing Mawson who'll have a very high potential to increase in value, adds to our homegrown quota which aside from U21s is only Bettinelli, Christie, McDonald (maybe, not sure what age he joined Burnley), Cairney and Fonte I'm pretty sure, and should suit our style of play even if he's not the best with 1v1 defending is good enough for me.
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Quote from: Sir Craven on July 27, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Agreed - I think I'd rather us spend that money on Lopez even though he doesn't have PL experience
Mawsons right footed. Im delighted we didnt spunk 25m on a near 29 year old converted midfielder with no resale value
Mawson is 24, has prospered after early knocks in his career, he has desire & heart. He can get better & potentially move for more money. Premier league experience, Speak to Swansea fans & they'll tell you how good he was in a poor side. On top of that hes English
Its a no brainer
Agree, Alfie Mawson would be a great signing for all those reasons.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 27, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-herrera-offer/
Fulham make Herrera offer
Fulham have made an offer for Porto's defensive midfielder Hector Herrera, according to reports from Mexico.
Record claims that Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic has told the Mexican international that he wants to make him a key player in the club's midfield as they prepare to return to the Premier League and that the 28 year-old is excited about the possibility of a move to England. Porto have responded to Fulham's offer by revealing their valuation of the World Cup star – and negotiations between the two parties are ongoing with a view to a potential transfer.
Herrera would likely fit in Jokanovic's favoured 4-3-3 system as a deep-lying midfielder, taking the anchor role currently played by the experienced Scottish midfielder Kevin McDonald, with new signing Jean-Michael Seri and skipper Tom Cairney operating in front of him. He is under contract with Porto until 2019 and the Portuguese giants are strongly considering a sale as they do not want to lose one of their key players for nothing next summer when his current contract expires. He has a minimum fee release clause of £35m,
Herrera is vastly experienced on the international stage, having won seventy caps for Mexico and scored five goals. He has an Olympic gold medal from London 2012, where the Mexicans stunned Brazil to win at Wembley, and was named player of the tournament at that summer's Toulon Tournament, which the Mexican under-23 side also won. He has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup and the CONCACAF Cup with his country and led Porto to the league title last season, being named in the Primeria Liga team of the year.
Herrera, who played in four of Mexico's World Cup games this summer in Russia, has made 192 appearances in all competitions for Porto, scoring 26 goals. He was a mainstay of the side that won the title last season, making 29 league appearances, scoring three times and creating five assists. It is believed Porto would accept a bid of above £20m for their energetic, box-to-box midfielder.
I reached out to four Mexican friends about Herrera. Responses are pasted below;
He has his days where he's a little slow but for the most part he's a brilliant player. He knows how to place a good ball for his forwards but he's not afraid to shot outside the box either. Idk how he plays outside of the Mexican national team but for them he's definitely a key player
Yes very good
This is real good player .
Let's hope we get him. Mexicans love football as much as us
I've seen a lot of Herrera for El Tri and he's an excellent player. Box to box with skill and bite. A midfield triad of Herrera, Seri and Cairney would be a really solid core heading into the Prem.
Quote from: PaulUMD on July 28, 2018, 03:49:13 AM
I've seen a lot of Herrera for El Tri and he's an excellent player. Box to box with skill and bite. A midfield triad of Herrera, Seri and Cairney would be a really solid core heading into the Prem.
Agree with this, was very impressive during the world cup.
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Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sir Craven on July 27, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Agreed - I think I'd rather us spend that money on Lopez even though he doesn't have PL experience
Mawsons right footed. Im delighted we didnt spunk 25m on a near 29 year old converted midfielder with no resale value
Mawson is 24, has prospered after early knocks in his career, he has desire & heart. He can get better & potentially move for more money. Premier league experience, Speak to Swansea fans & they'll tell you how good he was in a poor side. On top of that hes English
Its a no brainer
As I have stated before - surely Mawson is our best bet as he knows the premier league , has potential to get better and is a cbloke who will have no attitude problems . Hillingdon is spot on - it's a no brainier !!
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 12:36:15 AM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sir Craven on July 27, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Agreed - I think I'd rather us spend that money on Lopez even though he doesn't have PL experience
Mawsons right footed. Im delighted we didnt spunk 25m on a near 29 year old converted midfielder with no resale value
Mawson is 24, has prospered after early knocks in his career, he has desire & heart. He can get better & potentially move for more money. Premier league experience, Speak to Swansea fans & they'll tell you how good he was in a poor side. On top of that hes English
Its a no brainer
As I have stated before - surely Mawson is our best bet as he knows the premier league , has potential to get better and is a cbloke who will have no attitude problems . Hillingdon is spot on - it's a no brainier !!
Then we are all agreed, it has to be Alfie Mawson as one of our remaining signings.
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 12:36:15 AM
Quote from: FFC NY on July 27, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sir Craven on July 27, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Mawson another left footer. Thought we would be after an inside right to replace Kalas/Odoi
Left side covered by LM & Ream already. Seems like a waste of £25m if true
Agreed - I think I'd rather us spend that money on Lopez even though he doesn't have PL experience
Mawsons right footed. Im delighted we didnt spunk 25m on a near 29 year old converted midfielder with no resale value
Mawson is 24, has prospered after early knocks in his career, he has desire & heart. He can get better & potentially move for more money. Premier league experience, Speak to Swansea fans & they'll tell you how good he was in a poor side. On top of that hes English
Its a no brainer
As I have stated before - surely Mawson is our best bet as he knows the premier league , has potential to get better and is a cbloke who will have no attitude problems . Hillingdon is spot on - it's a no brainier !!
Then we are all agreed, it has to be Alfie Mawson as one of our remaining signings.
Can someone from here let their buddy who is ITK, that we all agree on Mawson and can Tony make it happen sharpish before we change our minds
I think there was some Serbian bloke that really wanted David Lopez, but now that the brain trust has come to an agreement, surely he will see sense.
https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1022868095214399489/photo/1
Seen a friend link me to this, wonder if any of that will go on new players or just cover what we've already done (excluding the complete oversight that it could be for a million other things)
The Serbian bloke is the top bloke and in his judgement we should trust. However we really don't have any real knowledge on how the decisions are made so the posters on here have their debate . I'm no football manager - and can only go on videos , what other teams supporters say about their players, look at the track record of other managers and who they are interested in etc etc. With all that in mind and if I had to spend my money on a CB then it would be Alfie Mawson (but perhaps I just have a romantic vision of an English centre back wearing a white , mud stained shirt - breaking out of defence and pinging a twenty yard ball out to Schürrle - who cuts inside before unleashing a thunderbolt into the top corner of Courtois' net - and Stamford Bridge is silent but for one corner which erupts into a frenzy )
Quote from: Tabby on July 28, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
I think there was some Serbian bloke that really wanted David Lopez, but now that the brain trust has come to an agreement, surely he will see sense.
Bit of a disrespectful way to speak about our manager. He's the guy who fought for us and made sure klein was eliminated from the transfer dealing which is one of the main reasons we got promoted.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 01:06:26 AM
I'll maintain if we want to spend that sort of money on a Centre-Back I'd want to see it spent on Kevin Vogt, but signing Mawson who'll have a very high potential to increase in value, adds to our homegrown quota which aside from U21s is only Bettinelli, Christie, McDonald (maybe, not sure what age he joined Burnley), Cairney and Fonte I'm pretty sure, and should suit our style of play even if he's not the best with 1v1 defending is good enough for me.
Looks superb.
How can Danny Ings be valued at 26m when he hasnt played for 3 years
I know that goalkeeper position isn't ours biggest problem, but I am really worried that we only have two keepers in our books. I think signing Martinez from Arsenal would be ideal. He is theirs 4th choice keeper and every time I watched him he looked decent. Also my mate who is an Arsenal fan told me that he looks like their best keeper in the preseason training videos.
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Quote from: Tabby on July 28, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
I think there was some Serbian bloke that really wanted David Lopez, but now that the brain trust has come to an agreement, surely he will see sense.
Bit of a disrespectful way to speak about our manager. He's the guy who fought for us and made sure klein was eliminated from the transfer dealing which is one of the main reasons we got promoted.
Re-read my comment and see if you can get the gist. I wasn't questioning his judgement.
Anyway, I'd quite like to get another defender in soon. Getting a bit nervous when there are rumours of large bids for central midfielders flying around when we have 4 senior defenders in the squad.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
I know that goalkeeper position isn't ours biggest problem, but I am really worried that we only have two keepers in our books. I think signing Martinez from Arsenal would be ideal. He is theirs 4th choice keeper and every time I watched him he looked decent. Also my mate who is an Arsenal fan told me that he looks like their best keeper in the preseason training videos.
Rodak is only on loan at Rotherham I think and more than capable as the third keeper.
Read into it what you will but Mawson didnt play yesterday for Swansea in their friendly
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 28, 2018, 10:50:22 AM
Read into it what you will but Mawson didnt play yesterday for Swansea in their friendly
Tbh it was Woolly Mammoth's last post on the subject that made me think he's likely to sign.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 28, 2018, 10:50:22 AM
Read into it what you will but Mawson didnt play yesterday for Swansea in their friendly
well he is definitely going to leave them so not surprised he did not play. just depends on who he joins.
bit worried about this knee surgery business myself. wonder when he will be fit to play?
With regards to the Serbian bloke wanting Lopez, I think that was the case. Jokanovic knows the player & obviously rates him. I know next to nothing about this guy, he could be a tremendous player. The reservations I'd have is the price, ok its not our money but Espanyol were basically taking the p***. Hes never gone anywhere for more than €5m ,hasn't played for Spain & is 29 in two months time. And they were asking silly money. They in the knowledge that we've got a few bob, tried having our pants down . There are exceptions to the rule but a lot of Spanish players don't alway settle for some reason too.
With regards to Mawson , I posted on here a few weeks ago that we had spoken to him. I've been following this very closely, I've met Alfies dad Gary a few times ,my brother plays golf with him & a mate who is very good friends of the family. I've had a blow by blow account of whats happened over the last few weeks & there was a lot of specifics I couldnt go into because of things told in confidence.
I personally think he could be a great signing for us, hes a lovely lad by all accounts but is determined to improve. He had a few setbacks in his early days but has ploughed on so he is no big time Charlie. As a player he has a little bit of everything & can improve. Gareth Southgate is a fan of the player too. I just think that with his age & mentality that he would be a better bet than Lopez. He has the potential to recoup his fee in the future.
One thing I would worry about is West Ham hovering, he wants to come to us now but there is the chance they could offer him more money. Mawson thought he had signed for them a few weeks ago but they suddenly pulled the plug. They came back in yesterday ,I had to smile when I read he was locked in talks with them in the week, up until yesterday he had no contact with them for over 2 weeks . I think though that we should be ok, talks are at an advanced stage & unless things have changed since last night ? the fee is definitely not 25m .
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
I know that goalkeeper position isn't ours biggest problem, but I am really worried that we only have two keepers in our books. I think signing Martinez from Arsenal would be ideal. He is theirs 4th choice keeper and every time I watched him he looked decent. Also my mate who is an Arsenal fan told me that he looks like their best keeper in the preseason training videos.
Rodak is only on loan at Rotherham I think and more than capable as the third keeper.
Agree with you there, but while he is on loan we should sign a 3rd choice keeper on loan, and I suggested Martinez, but it could be anyone else. I think it is very risky to have just two keepers. Imagine if Fabri was injured and Betts pick up a knock during the game, who would you put on the goal? Odoi?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 11:02:49 AM
With regards to the Serbian bloke wanting Lopez, I think that was the case. Jokanovic knows the player & obviously rates him. I know next to nothing about this guy, he could be a tremendous player. The reservations I'd have is the price, ok its not our money but Espanyol were basically taking the p***. Hes never gone anywhere for more than €5m ,hasn't played for Spain & is 29 in two months time. And they were asking silly money. They in the knowledge that we've got a few bob, tried having our pants down . There are exceptions to the rule but a lot of Spanish players don't alway settle for some reason too.
With regards to Mawson , I posted on here a few weeks ago that we had spoken to him. I've been following this very closely, I've met Alfies dad Gary a few times ,my brother plays golf with him & a mate who is very good friends of the family. I've had a blow by blow account of whats happened over the last few weeks & there was a lot of specifics I couldnt go into because of things told in confidence.
I personally think he could be a great signing for us, hes a lovely lad by all accounts but is determined to improve. He had a few setbacks in his early days but has ploughed on so he is no big time Charlie. As a player he has a little bit of everything & can improve. Gareth Southgate is a fan of the player too. I just think that with his age & mentality that he would be a better bet than Lopez. He has the potential to recoup his fee in the future.
One thing I would worry about is West Ham hovering, he wants to come to us now but there is the chance they could offer him more money. Mawson thought he had signed for them a few weeks ago but they suddenly pulled the plug. They came back in yesterday ,I had to smile when I read he was locked in talks with them in the week, up until yesterday he had no contact with them for over 2 weeks . I think though that we should be ok, talks are at an advanced stage & unless things have changed since last night ? the fee is definitely not 25m .
Very encouraging, quality information.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 11:02:49 AM
With regards to the Serbian bloke wanting Lopez, I think that was the case. Jokanovic knows the player & obviously rates him. I know next to nothing about this guy, he could be a tremendous player. The reservations I'd have is the price, ok its not our money but Espanyol were basically taking the p***. Hes never gone anywhere for more than €5m ,hasn't played for Spain & is 29 in two months time. And they were asking silly money. They in the knowledge that we've got a few bob, tried having our pants down . There are exceptions to the rule but a lot of Spanish players don't alway settle for some reason too.
With regards to Mawson , I posted on here a few weeks ago that we had spoken to him. I've been following this very closely, I've met Alfies dad Gary a few times ,my brother plays golf with him & a mate who is very good friends of the family. I've had a blow by blow account of whats happened over the last few weeks & there was a lot of specifics I couldnt go into because of things told in confidence.
I personally think he could be a great signing for us, hes a lovely lad by all accounts but is determined to improve. He had a few setbacks in his early days but has ploughed on so he is no big time Charlie. As a player he has a little bit of everything & can improve. Gareth Southgate is a fan of the player too. I just think that with his age & mentality that he would be a better bet than Lopez. He has the potential to recoup his fee in the future.
One thing I would worry about is West Ham hovering, he wants to come to us now but there is the chance they could offer him more money. Mawson thought he had signed for them a few weeks ago but they suddenly pulled the plug. They came back in yesterday ,I had to smile when I read he was locked in talks with them in the week, up until yesterday he had no contact with them for over 2 weeks . I think though that we should be ok, talks are at an advanced stage & unless things have changed since last night ? the fee is definitely not 25m .
Cheers for the info.
Re: West Ham, they have Ogbonna, Rice, Diop (I think they signed him instead of Mawson at the time), Balbuena and Oxford already while he would be a regular starting CB for us. Seems like an obvious choice for me.
Hillingdon, any idea if this is likely to be a quick turnaround or likely to drag on until the end of the window?
Quote from: river phoenix on July 28, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 11:02:49 AM
With regards to the Serbian bloke wanting Lopez, I think that was the case. Jokanovic knows the player & obviously rates him. I know next to nothing about this guy, he could be a tremendous player. The reservations I'd have is the price, ok its not our money but Espanyol were basically taking the p***. Hes never gone anywhere for more than €5m ,hasn't played for Spain & is 29 in two months time. And they were asking silly money. They in the knowledge that we've got a few bob, tried having our pants down . There are exceptions to the rule but a lot of Spanish players don't alway settle for some reason too.
With regards to Mawson , I posted on here a few weeks ago that we had spoken to him. I've been following this very closely, I've met Alfies dad Gary a few times ,my brother plays golf with him & a mate who is very good friends of the family. I've had a blow by blow account of whats happened over the last few weeks & there was a lot of specifics I couldnt go into because of things told in confidence.
I personally think he could be a great signing for us, hes a lovely lad by all accounts but is determined to improve. He had a few setbacks in his early days but has ploughed on so he is no big time Charlie. As a player he has a little bit of everything & can improve. Gareth Southgate is a fan of the player too. I just think that with his age & mentality that he would be a better bet than Lopez. He has the potential to recoup his fee in the future.
One thing I would worry about is West Ham hovering, he wants to come to us now but there is the chance they could offer him more money. Mawson thought he had signed for them a few weeks ago but they suddenly pulled the plug. They came back in yesterday ,I had to smile when I read he was locked in talks with them in the week, up until yesterday he had no contact with them for over 2 weeks . I think though that we should be ok, talks are at an advanced stage & unless things have changed since last night ? the fee is definitely not 25m .
Cheers for the info.
Re: West Ham, they have Ogbonna, Rice, Diop (I think they signed him instead of Mawson at the time), Balbuena and Oxford already while he would be a regular starting CB for us. Seems like an obvious choice for me.
What I like about this too is not only his age, but he seems equally adept at contributing to both ends of the pitch with a knack for scoring goals as well, something is saw was a huge strength in our team last season in particular that everyone was competent at being a threat to the oppositions goal.. a nightmare if you're an opposing manager.
When was the last time we had a third choice keeper? Zuberbuhler?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on July 28, 2018, 10:12:24 AM
Quote from: Tabby on July 28, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
I think there was some Serbian bloke that really wanted David Lopez, but now that the brain trust has come to an agreement, surely he will see sense.
Bit of a disrespectful way to speak about our manager. He's the guy who fought for us and made sure klein was eliminated from the transfer dealing which is one of the main reasons we got promoted.
Think his sarcasm was lost on you here
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2018, 11:14:19 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
I know that goalkeeper position isn't ours biggest problem, but I am really worried that we only have two keepers in our books. I think signing Martinez from Arsenal would be ideal. He is theirs 4th choice keeper and every time I watched him he looked decent. Also my mate who is an Arsenal fan told me that he looks like their best keeper in the preseason training videos.
Rodak is only on loan at Rotherham I think and more than capable as the third keeper.
Agree with you there, but while he is on loan we should sign a 3rd choice keeper on loan, and I suggested Martinez, but it could be anyone else. I think it is very risky to have just two keepers. Imagine if Fabri was injured and Betts pick up a knock during the game, who would you put on the goal? Odoi?
Norman or Ashby-Hammond, both promising youth players.
Blimey I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, because I've been banging on about having 2 senior players for every position, but you're not going to have 3 surely.what self-respecting decent keeper is going to join any club as 3rd choice, knowing he'll almost certainly never get a game? Even at PL level there has to be a point where we give the kids a chance otherwise there's no point having an academy.
Maybe you're right, just the thing that I now realized that it is the same for practically every position and that we have a really small squad.
P. S. Isn't it nice that we're arguing if we should sign a player who captained the team in CL and some similar players rather than arguing about some average championship players we would sign if we didn't beat Villa.
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 11:22:22 AM
Hillingdon, any idea if this is likely to be a quick turnaround or likely to drag on until the end of the window?
As far as I was told it was practically done last night. Player happy with what weve offered him etc. The issue was Swansea wanting a bit more than we wanted to pay, we were trying to sort out add ons & stuff to make it up
What is concerning me re: Mawson is the lingering spectre of the Maguire to Utd rumour. If Maguire does go then Mawson is a no-brainer for Leicester as a replacement. The rumoured 60m Leicester will allegedly get would then enable them to blow us out of the water. This is a deal that does need to be done very quickly or we will be usurped.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 28, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
What is concerning me re: Mawson is the lingering spectre of the Maguire to Utd rumour. If Maguire does go then Mawson is a no-brainer for Leicester as a replacement. The rumoured 60m Leicester will allegedly get would then enable them to blow us out of the water. This is a deal that does need to be done very quickly or we will be usurped.
You're absolutely spot on there, we really need to get this done sharpish because that is a definite worry
Wow Wolves are going after Pepe. I can't think of 2 promoted teams strengthening as much as is an Wolves before. (Assuming expected deals go through)
Read that Leicester might go for Lascelles from Newcastle as replacement for Maguire. So might mean they have dropped the Masson option.
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
Wow Wolves are going after Pepe. I can't think of 2 promoted teams strengthening as much as is an Wolves before. (Assuming expected deals go through)
Haha. Becoming a genuine joke the amount of Portuguese players they're buying. He's been playing at besiktas recently and is old, like a lot of their signings.
Heavy windfall for them without much hope of getting anything back realistically. Happier with our transfer window if we do get 5/6 more players we're being quoted with having an interest in.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 28, 2018, 10:50:22 AM
Read into it what you will but Mawson didnt play yesterday for Swansea in their friendly
Isn't he recovering from an injury, hard to see how we can wish to pay a reported 25 million for an injured player, great pressure om the medics.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 28, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
What is concerning me re: Mawson is the lingering spectre of the Maguire to Utd rumour. If Maguire does go then Mawson is a no-brainer for Leicester as a replacement. The rumoured 60m Leicester will allegedly get would then enable them to blow us out of the water. This is a deal that does need to be done very quickly or we will be usurped.
really hope you are right with this one 'H'.
He sounds like a decent lad and would be a great asset to Fulham!
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Quote from: General on July 28, 2018, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
Wow Wolves are going after Pepe. I can't think of 2 promoted teams strengthening as much as is an Wolves before. (Assuming expected deals go through)
Haha. Becoming a genuine joke the amount of Portuguese players they're buying. He's been playing at besiktas recently and is old, like a lot of their signings.
Heavy windfall for them without much hope of getting anything back realistically. Happier with our transfer window if we do get 5/6 more players we're being quoted with having an interest in.
We are in the process of assembling a squad that can play as a team & in a way SJ wants us to play. Some other teams are just buying players as they come available without any thought if they are the right fit. I prefer our method of signing players.
Football transfer situations as we know can change in the blink of an eye, so nothing is ever certain, and negotiations can seem to take for ever, due to the complexity of the situation, with one party or another moving the goal posts.
However this Alfie Mawson signing looks to be so very close, it would be dissapointing not to get him over the line now.
He would make a huge difference to our defence in more ways than one.
Youssouf Sabaly failed his medical at Napoli due to an injured knee. I would sign him even though he is injured because when he recovers he can play on rb or lb, two positions where we need strengthening. I think he is worth the wait as he is a very good player at a pretty low price(15-20m € max.)
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 12:11:04 PM
Youssouf Sabaly failed his medical at Napoli due to an injured knee. I would sign him even though he is injured because when he recovers he can play on rb or lb, two positions where we need strengthening. I think he is worth the wait as he is a very good player at a pretty low price(15-20m € max.)
after what happened with mitroglou, I don't think our chairman will ever be persuaded to take a risk like that again. Especially when the price you have quoted could beat our record signing price
Quote from: General on July 28, 2018, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
Wow Wolves are going after Pepe. I can't think of 2 promoted teams strengthening as much as is an Wolves before. (Assuming expected deals go through)
Haha. Becoming a genuine joke the amount of Portuguese players they're buying. He's been playing at besiktas recently and is old, like a lot of their signings.
Heavy windfall for them without much hope of getting anything back realistically. Happier with our transfer window if we do get 5/6 more players we're being quoted with having an interest in.
I know there's some genuine talent within the new recruits they've got, but buying the Portuguese national team without ronaldo is like buying a car without an engine
I heard a couple of days ago that Wolves are also leading the charge for Adama Traore for £18 million, which if successful, would surely mean Cavaleiro is excess baggage and could be tempted by a move to us ...
If Cavaleiro, Mitrovic, Mawson, Herrera (and a LB) were brought in before the end of the window, our starting eleven would be very strong for a promoted side
All ifs - I don't have any confidence with just 2 weeks to go
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
I heard a couple of days ago that Wolves are also leading the charge for Adama Traore for £18 million, which if successful, would surely mean Cavaleiro is excess baggage and could be tempted by a move to us ...
If Cavaleiro, Mitrovic, Mawson, Herrera (and a LB) were brought in before the end of the window, our starting eleven would be very strong for a promoted side
I know the odds don't mean a lot but last week wolves were at evens to sign him now they have gone far longer. Must admit I'm always dubious of sky bet as if sky sports report it they know people will jump on and by shortening the odds it looks like a sure thing even if it was never going to happen and just gossip.
Quote from: Newry FFC on July 28, 2018, 12:28:07 PM
Quote from: General on July 28, 2018, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
Wow Wolves are going after Pepe. I can't think of 2 promoted teams strengthening as much as is an Wolves before. (Assuming expected deals go through)
Haha. Becoming a genuine joke the amount of Portuguese players they're buying. He's been playing at besiktas recently and is old, like a lot of their signings.
Heavy windfall for them without much hope of getting anything back realistically. Happier with our transfer window if we do get 5/6 more players we're being quoted with having an interest in.
I know there's some genuine talent within the new recruits they've got, but buying the Portuguese national team without ronaldo is like buying a car without an engine
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I like Herrera from Porto very good player but no way should McDonald be dropped from the midfield he such a leader & has been class for us last 2 years he deserves his chance. ST , LB , CB is where players are needed for me.
Mawson & Mitrovic coming in would be pricey but that would be 2 hugely impressive signings for me
The Transfer Window is all IFs and a few BUTs thrown for good measure.
Which highlights the full complexity and difficulty in getting deals complete, bearing in mind that there are at least 4 Parties involved. Everyone wants to gain an edge, and get the best deal for them, human nature.
On top of that, if another club comes along out of the blue to try and muscle in on our deal, then negotiating lengthens.
But that's how it is these days with these windows, never use to be like it when there were no windows.
Only doors to walk through.
But like it or not, on the 9th August the Transfer Window will close, and the next dozen days could be overwhelming.
But nobody really knows for sure until it happens.
In twelve days we will certainly know.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 28, 2018, 11:02:49 AM
With regards to the Serbian bloke wanting Lopez, I think that was the case. Jokanovic knows the player & obviously rates him. I know next to nothing about this guy, he could be a tremendous player. The reservations I'd have is the price, ok its not our money but Espanyol were basically taking the p***. Hes never gone anywhere for more than €5m ,hasn't played for Spain & is 29 in two months time. And they were asking silly money. They in the knowledge that we've got a few bob, tried having our pants down . There are exceptions to the rule but a lot of Spanish players don't alway settle for some reason too.
With regards to Mawson , I posted on here a few weeks ago that we had spoken to him. I've been following this very closely, I've met Alfies dad Gary a few times ,my brother plays golf with him & a mate who is very good friends of the family. I've had a blow by blow account of whats happened over the last few weeks & there was a lot of specifics I couldnt go into because of things told in confidence.
I personally think he could be a great signing for us, hes a lovely lad by all accounts but is determined to improve. He had a few setbacks in his early days but has ploughed on so he is no big time Charlie. As a player he has a little bit of everything & can improve. Gareth Southgate is a fan of the player too. I just think that with his age & mentality that he would be a better bet than Lopez. He has the potential to recoup his fee in the future.
One thing I would worry about is West Ham hovering, he wants to come to us now but there is the chance they could offer him more money. Mawson thought he had signed for them a few weeks ago but they suddenly pulled the plug. They came back in yesterday ,I had to smile when I read he was locked in talks with them in the week, up until yesterday he had no contact with them for over 2 weeks . I think though that we should be ok, talks are at an advanced stage & unless things have changed since last night ? the fee is definitely not 25m .
A rare incidence of someone claiming to be 'in the know' who - without breaking confidence - actually gives sufficient detail to make me think that this could be genuine information.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 28, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
What is concerning me re: Mawson is the lingering spectre of the Maguire to Utd rumour. If Maguire does go then Mawson is a no-brainer for Leicester as a replacement. The rumoured 60m Leicester will allegedly get would then enable them to blow us out of the water. This is a deal that does need to be done very quickly or we will be usurped.
My thoughts also, speed is of the essence on this one. Let's hope we can stay in the box seat on the negotiating table, and complete before the vultures come a gathering.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
The Transfer Window is all IFs and a few BUTs thrown for good measure.
Which highlights the full complexity and difficulty in getting deals complete, bearing in mind that there are at least 4 Parties involved. Everyone wants to gain an edge, and get the best deal for them, human nature.
On top of that, if another club comes along out of the blue to try and muscle in on our deal, then negotiating lengthens.
But that's how it is these days with these windows, never use to be like it when there were no windows.
Only doors to walk through.
But like it or not, on the 9th August the Transfer Window will close, and the next dozen days could be overwhelming.
But nobody really knows for sure until it happens.
In twelve days we will certainly know.
You're quite an understated and conservative source, so when I see you use words like 'overwhelming' in regards to how we could possibly feel about signings coming in over the next 12 days and I'm already looking at who we're being linked with and thinking some may have not been mentioned then you start to get me relatively excited.
As always I never ask for specific names unless you want to volunteer them in a private message and then I will be sworn to secrecy.. but wondering if we're still on course to sign another two or three by midway through next week (given the way things can drag out I'm not holding dates to exact timeframes), ..? Or if things have hit a snag or progressed faster then that?
Sounds like Mawson could very well be one of them, but not completed yet despite sounding firm - I'm approaching this as a solid likelihood but comprehensive around the fact it isn't done and others rate him too (west ham!)..
What positions? If you're feeling more happy to divulge smaller snippets re whether they're from a certain continent, played in a specific league etc then by all means I'd love to know those details to.
Are the rumours right or are we going to be suprised even more so if things come off regarding current irons in the fire?
Quote from: GJB on July 28, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
I heard a couple of days ago that Wolves are also leading the charge for Adama Traore for £18 million, which if successful, would surely mean Cavaleiro is excess baggage and could be tempted by a move to us ...
If Cavaleiro, Mitrovic, Mawson, Herrera (and a LB) were brought in before the end of the window, our starting eleven would be very strong for a promoted side
Didn't he (Adama Traore) dislocate his shoulder in a friendly yesterday or the day before? Would imagine that means the transfer is off or at least on hold until they find out more about the injury.
General,
It's starting to get to the stage whereupon every party is fighting their corner as the sands of time start to run out.
Who will hold their nerve, who is bluffing, who is counter bluffing etc.
I reckon the club have set their agenda out clear and concisely, and will move quickly on to the next Targett and/or are running them at the same time.
If you have the financial weapons, and the pulling power, like our manager and our system of play, and our location, then the hand we are dealt with will hold more aces.
There will always be alternatives if the first one falls through.
It's not so much the selling club that concerns me, because they most probably need to sell, whether they like it or not.
It's being gazumped at the last knocking by a club with more clout that worries me, and we have now reached a stage now with certain deals, where the selling club are moving the goalposts just to see if we will panic and march to the beat of their drum. Hence unforeseen delays beyond our control.
I am sure the club know which positions have to be strengthened immediately, and they are most certainly shopping at the most expensive stores to bring in the quality they want.
I just hope our shopping bag is bursting at the seams before or by the 9th August.
Quote from: SG on July 28, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
All ifs - I don't have any confidence with just 2 weeks to go
It's going to be very long season for you --- haha.
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2018, 11:14:19 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
I know that goalkeeper position isn't ours biggest problem, but I am really worried that we only have two keepers in our books. I think signing Martinez from Arsenal would be ideal. He is theirs 4th choice keeper and every time I watched him he looked decent. Also my mate who is an Arsenal fan told me that he looks like their best keeper in the preseason training videos.
Rodak is only on loan at Rotherham I think and more than capable as the third keeper.
Agree with you there, but while he is on loan we should sign a 3rd choice keeper on loan, and I suggested Martinez, but it could be anyone else. I think it is very risky to have just two keepers. Imagine if Fabri was injured and Betts pick up a knock during the game, who would you put on the goal? Odoi?
Norman or Ashby-Hammond, both promising youth players.
Blimey I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, because I've been banging on about having 2 senior players for every position, but you're not going to have 3 surely.what self-respecting decent keeper is going to join any club as 3rd choice, knowing he'll almost certainly never get a game? Even at PL level there has to be a point where we give the kids a chance otherwise there's no point having an academy.
Robert Green
Quote from: SG on July 28, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
All ifs - I don't have any confidence with just 2 weeks to go
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http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulhams-counter-offer-not-ruled-club-close-agreeing-new-deal-player/
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 28, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
The Transfer Window is all IFs and a few BUTs thrown for good measure.
Which highlights the full complexity and difficulty in getting deals complete, bearing in mind that there are at least 4 Parties involved. Everyone wants to gain an edge, and get the best deal for them, human nature.
On top of that, if another club comes along out of the blue to try and muscle in on our deal, then negotiating lengthens.
But that's how it is these days with these windows, never use to be like it when there were no windows.
Only doors to walk through.
But like it or not, on the 9th August the Transfer Window will close, and the next dozen days could be overwhelming.
But nobody really knows for sure until it happens.
In twelve days we will certainly know.
Just like the 12 days of Christmas!
Report – Aleksandar Mitrovic To Leave Newcastle Imminently
There's a report in This Is Futbol that Aleksandr Mitrovic is likely to leave Newcastle imminently – the report does not mention which club he will go to – but we expect it to be Fulham.
Mitro was on the plane to Portugal yesterday with the rest of the first-team squad, but the report says he will leave Portugal and come back to England today to finalize his move away from Tyneside.
Mitrovic has had three years on Tyneside but has never really fitted into Rafa Benitez' long-term plans at Newcastle.
The recent news was that Fulham bid £16M for the striker and Newcastle wanted £20M so maybe they made a deal for around £18M and split the difference.
Today's news in some outlets had suggested they were only £2M apart – so it would not be a surprise if a deal has indeed been struck between the two clubs.
We'll know if this report is accurate if indeed Mitro heads home today.
Mitrovic played 72 times for Newcastle over three seasons with 17 goals but never really lived up to his potential on Tyneside, although some fans will argue he didn't get the chance to do that.
He is still very popular at Newcastle and is already popular with Fulham fans who took to him immediately when he went to Craven Cottage on loan in January.
The fact he scored 12 goals in 20 appearances for them helped Fulham get promoted via the playoffs.
The £20M – or whatever the fee is – will help Rafa bring in another striker – thought to be Salomon Rondon from West Brom – although it's unlikely Newcastle will get the full £20M in cash this summer.
It will likely be paid over three or four years via installments.
Mitro returned to training last Wednesday and wanted his future sorted out by then – he may have got his wish today.
The key to this story being true is whether we hear that Mitro is on his way back to England today.
http://www.nufcblog.com/2018/07/28/report-aleksandar-mitrovic-to-leave-newcastle/
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2018, 11:14:19 AM
what self-respecting decent keeper is going to join any club as 3rd choice, knowing he'll almost certainly never get a game?
David Ospina
Emiliano Martinez
Jason Steele
Adam Ledgzins
Anders Lindegaard
Robert Green
Julian Speroni
Eldin Jakupovic
Joe Hart
Simon Mignolet
Lee Grant
Joel Perreira
Rob Elliot
Freddie Woodman
Fraser Forster
Paolo Gazzaniga
Daniel Bachman
Pontus Dahlberg
Brian Murphy
Lee Camp
Not saying a keeper should ever aspire to be 3rd choice but it's not just the teams in Europe having 3 keepers. The above keepers are 3rd or 4th choice for their teams currently . You only have to look at Burnley to see how possible it is to have 2 keepers injured. Didn't we go out of Europe when having to field Etheridge for a make or break europa game against Odense?
Mignolet, Hart, Ospina are all up for the taking out of those names. There aren't a huge amount of clubs that sign players specifically to be third keepers, it just tends to be a keeper that has fallen out of favour and they haven't been able to offload.
Just seen that Milan want just 13m € (roughly 11.5 m £) for Carlos Bacca. I think that he would be a good backup for Mitro or maybe even a starter.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 03:42:33 PM
Just seen that Milan want just 13m € (roughly 11.5 m £) for Carlos Bacca. I think that he would be a good backup for Mitro or maybe even a starter.
He looks a steal at a that price.
Why on earth are they selling him?
Well I never Kebano pops up with equaliser from our first attack....
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 28, 2018, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 03:42:33 PM
Just seen that Milan want just 13m € (roughly 11.5 m £) for Carlos Bacca. I think that he would be a good backup for Mitro or maybe even a starter.
He looks a steal at a that price.
Why on earth are they selling him?
They're supposedly signing Higuain, think Bacca wants out of Milan, and Cutrone would be second choice as it is anyway.
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/fulham-closing-in-on-deal-for-newcastle-s-aleksandar-mitrovic-1-9274229
If we could put in a cheeky bid for Inaki Williams while Bilbao are still around that would also be lovely, he's already good and is going to be some player in the years to come.
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2018, 04:45:09 PM
Now take out all the keepers in that list that (a) play for clubs like Arsenal et al in Europe and (b) who actually joined the club as 1st or 2nd choice. I'm not going through all of them but the first one, Ospina for example, would be out on both counts, (a) and (b).
And in the unlikely event you've still got anyone left over after that have a long think and tell me whether we're seriously suggesting the club pays a salary of £1m-£2m (not to mention a potential transfer fee) to have a 3rd choice keeper play a couple of league cup games ahead of the 3/4 really promising keepers coming out our academy.
I'm not seriously suggesting anything. I'm just providing a list showing most clubs are going with a 3rd keeper with experience. Can clearly see the arguments for and against. But in terms of preference, it's too early to have Norman or ashby Hammond anywhere near the first team and I'd fear if Betts and Fabri were injured together. They've both been out injured a fair bit. The 3rd keeper which is solely backup, with experience to help the young keepers and also to provide backup while not standing in anyone's way, while also covering for any keeper out on loan is clearly a trend that is growing in the past year or 2.
Again, it's not a must have, and clearly at the bottom of any priority list, but like i say, a few years ago you could barely name any 3rd choice keeper
Leeds officially announced Barry Douglas. Weird one imo.
NEWCASTLE ACCEPT MITROVIC BID
Sky sources understand Newcastle have accepted a bid from Fulham for striker Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb has left their Portuguese training camp to finalise his move to Craven Cottage. We understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
Keith Downie
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BREAKING: Newcastle have accepted a bid from Fulham for Aleksandar Mitrovic. The Serb has left their training camp here in Portugal to finalise his move to Craven Cottage.
1:58 PM - 28 Jul 2018 from Oporto, Portugal
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 28, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
NEWCASTLE ACCEPT MITROVIC BID
Sky sources understand Newcastle have accepted a bid from Fulham for striker Aleksandar Mitrovic.
The Serb has left their Portuguese training camp to finalise his move to Craven Cottage. We understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre
Great news.Well done FFC.Now lets nail the other targets and we are good to go.
What was the point of him flying out there to come straight back😵
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
What was the point of him flying out there to come straight back😵
That is where our money goes. Paying for two lots of plane tickets because nobody can make the right decision at the right time.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
What was the point of him flying out there to come straight back😵
He is collecting his Air miles!!
He was still 300 short after he World Cup.
It was the least Newcastle could do for him. Going away present!! ⚽👍😀
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2018, 07:08:11 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
What was the point of him flying out there to come straight back😵
That is where our money goes. Paying for two lots of plane tickets because nobody can make the right decision at the right time.
Probably paid for it with TK's Air Miles!
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 28, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
What was the point of him flying out there to come straight back😵
He is collecting his Air miles!!
He was still 300 short after he World Cup.
It was the least Newcastle could do for him. Going away present!! ⚽👍😀
Tell him to come to Duisburg. Steven Sess and Fabri are getting the rounds in all night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qgET1Zhpb8 When the Mitro news dropped
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
What was the point of him flying out there to come straight back😵
It's all part of the game, NUFC won't budge on price, Mitro doesn't want to go anywhere else and they know that, then we put a cheeky bid in again and they say yes. simples
So, out of interest, if we sign Mitro for 20m, do those same people who said he wasn't/isn't worth that change their mind or just think we overpaid? Not being snarky, just interested as one even suggested 1-2m difference could be a huge deal with our transfer budget. As an add on.....Ings is valuated at 20m having barely played over last few seasons. The market is really inflated.....
Mitro well worth £20 mil by todays inflated fees. Gives notice of intent to other clubs that we are not here just to make up the numbers.
Think we have to just trust the club and the people running the show.They seem to be doing afantastic job!
Quote from: colinwhite on July 28, 2018, 09:24:53 PM
Think we have to just trust the club and the people running the show.They seem to be doing afantastic job!
That will pi$$ of a few on here.
Don't know if anyone agrees, but I would consider signing Howedes from Schalke. Apparenlty they want just 4.5 million for him, has a ton of German nt, Bundesliga and Champions league experience and he played in Juventus during last season. Only problem is he is 30 years old. And i forgot to say he is a cb, but can play rb and even lb if needed.
MITROVIC FEE LATEST
Sky sources understand that the fee Newcastle have agreed with Fulham is £22m, in a deal which could rise to £27m with potential add-ons.
Thats quite a bit more than I was expecting
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 09:36:45 PM
Don't know if anyone agrees, but I would consider signing Howedes from Schalke. Apparenlty they want just 4.5 million for him, has a ton of German nt, Bundesliga and Champions league experience and he played in Juventus during last season. Only problem is he is 30 years old. And i forgot to say he is a cb, but can play rb and even lb if needed.
Is he a good ball playing defender ?.I have heard his name but not seen him play.If so then could be quite a bargain and a very useful addition.
We might be "paying more" but in instalments to balance out FFP. Say 12 up front and then 5 and 5 over the next two summers for example. Either way, it's not my money. As long as it gets done.
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on July 28, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 09:36:45 PM
Don't know if anyone agrees, but I would consider signing Howedes from Schalke. Apparenlty they want just 4.5 million for him, has a ton of German nt, Bundesliga and Champions league experience and he played in Juventus during last season. Only problem is he is 30 years old. And i forgot to say he is a cb, but can play rb and even lb if needed.
Is he a good ball playing defender ?.I have heard his name but not seen him play.If so then could be quite a bargain and a very useful addition.
It's not necessarily his best attribute, but I wouldn't say no to him if he was on offer. He's played all over the defensive line for Germany as well. He was their starting LB when they won the World Cup.
Oh I dont care about the transfer fees as long as it doesnt prohibit us from buying someone else (Mawson)
Fees since the Neymar deal have been ridiculous across the world
One thing i cant stand is fans laughing at other fans over transfers fees. Who cares?
Think the fact it's taken this long to get done would suggest we wouldn't have just suddenly bent over and paid over the odds for him which would in turn affect our other business.
Personally think it's lower and will be around 20m anyway. Guy who's reporting it is presumably getting his info from Newcastle because he's a North East reporter and they'll be bigging up the number to him.
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
MITROVIC FEE LATEST
Sky sources understand that the fee Newcastle have agreed with Fulham is £22m, in a deal which could rise to £27m with potential add-ons.
Thats quite a bit more than I was expecting
Maybe people will be more understanding as to why the club didn't just bid £20 million and get it sorted.
I care and I am not sure we should be paying 20m or north of that for Mitro. He was a hero
last season but is unproven in the prem.
Quote from: Twig on July 28, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
I care and I am not sure we should be paying 20m or north of that for Mitro. He was a hero
last season but is unproven in the prem.
10 goals in 40 PL games in what really equates to 25 full games.
Maybe not proven over two or three years but if he gets ten plus goals for us then that's a good return.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on July 28, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 09:36:45 PM
Don't know if anyone agrees, but I would consider signing Howedes from Schalke. Apparenlty they want just 4.5 million for him, has a ton of German nt, Bundesliga and Champions league experience and he played in Juventus during last season. Only problem is he is 30 years old. And i forgot to say he is a cb, but can play rb and even lb if needed.
Is he a good ball playing defender ?.I have heard his name but not seen him play.If so then could be quite a bargain and a very useful addition.
It's not necessarily his best attribute, but I wouldn't say no to him if he was on offer. He's played all over the defensive line for Germany as well. He was their starting LB when they won the World Cup.
I just looked his passing stats from last season and they are better than ream's and he played in italian first division while ream played in championship.
Won't happen in a million years, but it's the Silly Season thread (emphasis on silly) so...
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Great news about Mitrovic.
But I don't believe the fee will get up to £27 million. It seems absurd. I know Ashley is a very hard businessman but if we are to believe the press NUFC wanted £20 mil for him. Now why would it suddenly escalate up to £27mil?
Quote from: Tabby on July 28, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
MITROVIC FEE LATEST
Sky sources understand that the fee Newcastle have agreed with Fulham is £22m, in a deal which could rise to £27m with potential add-ons.
Thats quite a bit more than I was expecting
Maybe people will be more understanding as to why the club didn't just bid £20 million and get it sorted.
I must be missing something, they wanted 18m, we were only willing to pay 16m, reported that a deal had been done at 20m and now higher figures are apparently being quoted, wtf is going on?
Quote from: davew on July 28, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 28, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
MITROVIC FEE LATEST
Sky sources understand that the fee Newcastle have agreed with Fulham is £22m, in a deal which could rise to £27m with potential add-ons.
Thats quite a bit more than I was expecting
Maybe people will be more understanding as to why the club didn't just bid £20 million and get it sorted.
I must be missing something, they wanted 18m, we were only willing to pay 16m, reported that a deal had been done at 20m and now higher figures are apparently being quoted, wtf is going on?
Ashley/Charnley want an ego boost.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: davew on July 28, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Tabby on July 28, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
MITROVIC FEE LATEST
Sky sources understand that the fee Newcastle have agreed with Fulham is £22m, in a deal which could rise to £27m with potential add-ons.
Thats quite a bit more than I was expecting
Maybe people will be more understanding as to why the club didn't just bid £20 million and get it sorted.
I must be missing something, they wanted 18m, we were only willing to pay 16m, reported that a deal had been done at 20m and now higher figures are apparently being quoted, wtf is going on?
Ashley/Charnley want an ego boost.
They need it but have we been suckered in? Whatever the price (within reason) Mitro will prove to be a great signing to keep us in the PL, a few more quality signings and we will finish top half, shame that football is all about spending power though these days!
Bearing in mind it was made public that Newcastle wanted £18m for Mitro, why would the fee suddenly be almost £10m more than that with add ons?? The media does chat some nonsense sometimes
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Benitez: "I wish Mitrovic all the best. I think it's done." #nufc
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Quote from: MJG on July 28, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 28, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
I care and I am not sure we should be paying 20m or north of that for Mitro. He was a hero
last season but is unproven in the prem.
10 goals in 40 PL games in what really equates to 25 full games.
Maybe not proven over two or three years but if he gets ten plus goals for us then that's a good return.
Mike you are taking average game time I assume? Not a bad return but definitely not the finished article. I was fine when we were talking 16 - 18m but 22m seriously?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 10:15:32 PM
Won't happen in a million years, but it's the Silly Season thread (emphasis on silly) so...
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Fulham reportedly looking to buy Kieran Tierney from Celtic, fee £25M being reported
Maybe the draw of playing with Cairney and a big sesh in London with Kmac could swing it
Quote from: Twig on July 28, 2018, 10:33:21 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 28, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 28, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
I care and I am not sure we should be paying 20m or north of that for Mitro. He was a hero
last season but is unproven in the prem.
10 goals in 40 PL games in what really equates to 25 full games.
Maybe not proven over two or three years but if he gets ten plus goals for us then that's a good return.
Mike you are taking average game time I assume? Not a bad return but definitely not the finished article. I was fine when we were talking 16 - 18m but 22m seriously?
it will all depends on how the deal is structured, they may be a sell on % meaning paying more now meaning pay less in the future, or it could have been they want 18m with pl survival an extra 5m we may pay 22m and save a mill at the end of the season,
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6887210/peter-crouch-burnley-stoke-500k-bid/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:TheSunFootball:TwImageandlink:Statement:Sport
Must of failed his Fulham medical but another club have an easier one maybe?
Quote from: MJG on July 28, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 28, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
I care and I am not sure we should be paying 20m or north of that for Mitro. He was a hero
last season but is unproven in the prem.
10 goals in 40 PL games in what really equates to 25 full games.
Maybe not proven over two or three years but if he gets ten plus goals for us then that's a good return.
Agreed - and I think it's reasonable to "add" another two for key interventions at the back.
The Sun (Alan Nixon) are reporting the Tierney link.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2993464/kieran-tierney-celtic-fulham-transfer-news/
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 10:06:53 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on July 28, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 28, 2018, 09:36:45 PM
Don't know if anyone agrees, but I would consider signing Howedes from Schalke. Apparenlty they want just 4.5 million for him, has a ton of German nt, Bundesliga and Champions league experience and he played in Juventus during last season. Only problem is he is 30 years old. And i forgot to say he is a cb, but can play rb and even lb if needed.
Is he a good ball playing defender ?.I have heard his name but not seen him play.If so then could be quite a bargain and a very useful addition.
It's not necessarily his best attribute, but I wouldn't say no to him if he was on offer. He's played all over the defensive line for Germany as well. He was their starting LB when they won the World Cup.
I just looked his passing stats from last season and they are better than ream's and he played in italian first division while ream played in championship.
Worth a punt then I reckon.
Quote from: Statto on July 28, 2018, 10:54:37 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
The Sun (Alan Nixon) are reporting the Tierney link.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2993464/kieran-tierney-celtic-fulham-transfer-news/
Hard to take any story seriously that says he's a replacement for our current "left back" sessegnon
Also a bit of a nothing story as it says we'll bid if we sell Sess but we've already said we're not selling him this year so unless he's taking a punt on a story that potentially happens next year, I don't see the point of him writing this! Also fails to mention the clubs who might want to spend £100m on Sess so a waste of time reading it in all honestly so I agree with you
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
Let's say we are hypothetically spending 25m on Tierney (highly doubt it) and 20m on Mawson. Could see us padding the squad out with a freebie or two and maybe a loan and that'll be us done. Think we will spend another 40m or so on top of Mitrovic which'll take us up to what? 85-90m total?
In-terms of reputation/potential to grow Tierney would be our biggest signing this summer. Play our cards right and we'd easily double or even triple our money on him in a few years time given how rare good full-backs are and how in demand they are for the top clubs. See Mendy and Walker going for 50 odd mill each.
Can't see it happening though. Encouraging if we're looking at spending that much on a full-back though. Means we'd be in the ball park for Plattenhardt or potentially signing someone like Ismaily (Shakhtar) or Philipp Max (Augsburg) (no links, just two Left-Backs I'd really like to see us bring in).
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Quote from: MJG on July 28, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 28, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
I care and I am not sure we should be paying 20m or north of that for Mitro. He was a hero
last season but is unproven in the prem.
10 goals in 40 PL games in what really equates to 25 full games.
Maybe not proven over two or three years but if he gets ten plus goals for us then that's a good return.
Mike you are taking average game time I assume? Not a bad return but definitely not the finished article. I was fine when we were talking 16 - 18m but 22m seriously?
total time played across the 40 times he's played for NCU in PL.
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Does anyone know what the latest is with Mawson?
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2018, 11:55:26 PM
Does anyone know what the latest is with Mawson?
terms agreed, finances basically there with some discussion on add ons. talk of another club making a higher offer today but he'd still prefer to come to us. seems him and mitro will be done by wednesday
Tierney rumours are sending Celtic fans on twitter into meltdown, I'd love him to leave just to shut them up
Kieron Tierney would be far better off playing for Fulham in a real high quality League, where there is a proper challenge.
Not playing Mickey Mouse football against limited opponents every week for three cheap points.
No disrespect meant to the other teams in their leagues.
But it's an uneven playing field.
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
How on earth did you conjure up 52 million for our signings so far? You are as bad as a 10 yr old journalist.
Widely quoted Seri and LM were 30, Fabri 5-5.4million - how do you figure a two year loan deal is worth £16-£17m?
Clueless AF.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 01:18:52 AM
Kieron Tierney would be far better off playing for Fulham in a real high quality League, where there is a proper challenge.
Not playing Mickey Mouse football against limited opponents every week for three cheap points.
No disrespect meant to the other teams in their leagues.
But it's an uneven playing field.
You have lost me there - how can you completely rubbish them and then say no disrespect in the same breath?
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 01:18:52 AM
Kieron Tierney would be far better off playing for Fulham in a real high quality League, where there is a proper challenge.
Not playing Mickey Mouse football against limited opponents every week for three cheap points.
No disrespect meant to the other teams in their leagues.
But it's an uneven playing field.
You have lost me there - how can you completely rubbish them and then say no disrespect in the same breath?
I have a duel personality.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-ready-to-return-with-another-targett-bid/
Quote from: mkras99 on July 29, 2018, 02:19:18 AM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-ready-to-return-with-another-targett-bid/
This is the kind of news I like to hear.
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Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
How on earth did you conjure up 52 million for our signings so far? You are as bad as a 10 yr old journalist.
Widely quoted Seri and LM were 30, Fabri 5-5.4million - how do you figure a two year loan deal is worth £16-£17m?
Clueless AF.
Ridiculously harsh response.
A 2 year loan deal for a 27 year old on a 3 year contract is almost like buying the player so if you think it would have been cheap then you are "clueless AF". Maybe it wasn't as much as he said but all our deals thus far have been undisclosed so you don't know, do you. Maybe he's factoring in £20m for Mitro in anticipation of that being confirmed very soon.
I just assumed he was factoring Mitrovic into it. 30 for Seri and Le Marchand, 5 for Fabri, 20 ish for Mitrovic would mean we've spent 55. And then we're supposedly about to fork out another 20-25 on Mawson. Could touch 100mill if we're spending "Tierney money" on a Left-Back.
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Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 29, 2018, 02:11:45 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 01:18:52 AM
Kieron Tierney would be far better off playing for Fulham in a real high quality League, where there is a proper challenge.
Not playing Mickey Mouse football against limited opponents every week for three cheap points.
No disrespect meant to the other teams in their leagues.
But it's an uneven playing field.
You have lost me there - how can you completely rubbish them and then say no disrespect in the same breath?
I have a duel personality.
We are paying Wages over Two years.If we bought him for x we would still have his wages to consider.Whats not to like from that deal.Who's saying were paying all his wages?
Not sure if anyone's mentioned, but both ESPN and Sky are reporting Mawson, with ESPN saying that 'Fulham in pole position'
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11451818/fulham-burnley-and-west-ham-step-up-interest-in-alfie-mawson
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3577164/fulham-in-pole-position-to-sign-swansea-defender-alfie-mawson-sources
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 02:40:10 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 29, 2018, 02:19:18 AM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-ready-to-return-with-another-targett-bid/
This is the kind of news I like to hear.
Half the price of a Tierney. Good move if we can get him back. Spending 25m on a left back would be bonkers.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 29, 2018, 04:46:08 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 02:40:10 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 29, 2018, 02:19:18 AM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-ready-to-return-with-another-targett-bid/
This is the kind of news I like to hear.
Half the price of a Tierney. Good move if we can get him back. Spending 25m on a left back would be bonkers.
I agree 100%
What about Alberto Moreno. He is out of favor at Liverpool for couple of seasons.
Tierney is rated by Celtic at that price,they'll never get that for him, more like 10-12 million would be good enough.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 29, 2018, 06:15:45 AM
What about Alberto Moreno. He is out of favor at Liverpool for couple of seasons.
Just No
Would rather pay the extra money for Tierney than pay £10m+ for Targett as I think Tierney will turn out to be the better player so we'd recoup the money, plus I have some doubts over Targett's pace and physical capabilities being exposed in the PL
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 08:57:06 AM
Would rather pay the extra money for Tierney than pay £10m+ for Targett as I think Tierney will turn out to be the better player so we'd recoup the money, plus I have some doubts over Targett's pace and physical capabilities being exposed in the PL
I agree. You buy the better player, who is going to be worth more in the future. If we're talking only an extra 10m (or less)
Moreno is hopeless defensively - not the player we need if surviving relegation is on our minds. Danny Rose and Monreal on the other hand have been told their surplus to requirements - could be worth looking into these two
I would've liked Targett to get upfield more than he did. Does Tierney?
Like Targett alot but Tierney would be abig upgrade on him . He is the best talent in Scotland for along time. Dont think we can get him ,but who knows ?
Quote from: the nutflush on July 29, 2018, 04:46:08 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 02:40:10 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 29, 2018, 02:19:18 AM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-ready-to-return-with-another-targett-bid/
This is the kind of news I like to hear.
Half the price of a Tierney. Good move if we can get him back. Spending 25m on a left back would be bonkers.
Tierney is one of the best young LBs around, if we can afford it, I'd go for him.
Did anyone watch Newcastle vs Porto last night? If yes, how did Herrera do?
Quote from: Statto on July 29, 2018, 02:16:40 AM
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Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
How on earth did you conjure up 52 million for our signings so far? You are as bad as a 10 yr old journalist.
Widely quoted Seri and LM were 30, Fabri 5-5.4million - how do you figure a two year loan deal is worth £16-£17m?
Clueless AF.
Ridiculously harsh response.
A 2 year loan deal for a 27 year old on a 3 year contract is almost like buying the player so if you think it would have been cheap then you are "clueless AF". Maybe it wasn't as much as he said but all our deals thus far have been undisclosed so you don't know, do you. Maybe he's factoring in £20m for Mitro in anticipation of that being confirmed very soon.
I was quoting 30m (as widely reported for LM and Seri), 5m for Fabri and yes probably a minimum of 17m for Mitro which now seems imminent - 52m.
I wasn't even counting the wages Schurrle's loan deal which were reported to be 6.2m a year.
As I am not a sports journalist myself nor have anyone ITK at the club all of these figures could be wildly wrong. Let's just ignore all the reports because the journos are probably making it all up anyway. As far as I know we got/are getting them all on free transfers.
I am not fussed about how much we have apparently paid for a player. What other business would disclose how much they paid for a product?
All I hope is that we get value for money.
Really hoping they do a double announcement of Mitro and Mawson and use some sort of M&M pun
Could be a busy week in the medical room if all of our intended transfer incomings are resolved.
Especially with our last two friendlies this Wednesday and then on the Saturday.
Would be nice to see as many as possible in action.
sky rumours have us at 4.0/5.0 for herrera. in compariospn, mitrovic is 4.8
i wonder if there is truth in it?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 11:59:25 AM
Could be a busy week in the medical room if all of our intended transfer incomings are resolved.
Especially with our last two friendlies this Wednesday and then on the Saturday.
Would be nice to see as many as possible in action.
Can you give any hints on who the incomings are? Mitro seems a given and I doubt he'll even need a full medical all things considering
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 11:59:25 AM
Could be a busy week in the medical room if all of our intended transfer incomings are resolved.
Especially with our last two friendlies this Wednesday and then on the Saturday.
Would be nice to see as many as possible in action.
Can you give any hints on who the incomings are? Mitro seems a given and I doubt he'll even need a full medical all things considering
I have been sworn to secrecy, and under the circumstances, that is reasonable, as nobody wishes to jeopardise any recruitment missions our Negotiating team are working on.
One things for sure, we will not have long to wait, with only a maximum of 11 days left, and we never know it could be worth waiting for.
I wonder Mitro will need micro surgery on an injury and miss the beginning of the season and Mawson will need more time to recover from his injury. Sorry but things are going too well at the moment. There has to be a back lash soon.
The odds on Mawson keep getting slimmer
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 29, 2018, 12:47:05 PM
I wonder Mitro will need micro surgery on an injury and miss the beginning of the season and Mawson will need more time to recover from his injury. Sorry but things are going too well at the moment. There has to be a back lash soon.
I'm just worried its all been a dream and Derby's "fans" invaded the pitch with 2 minutes to go and we never had our day at Wemberly :012:
Quote from: ollienixs on July 29, 2018, 01:18:54 PM
The odds on Mawson keep getting slimmer
we are odds on at the moment per this link.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/alfie-mawson/club-after-summer-transfer-window
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 28, 2018, 11:03:08 PM
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
Let's say we are hypothetically spending 25m on Tierney (highly doubt it) and 20m on Mawson. Could see us padding the squad out with a freebie or two and maybe a loan and that'll be us done. Think we will spend another 40m or so on top of Mitrovic which'll take us up to what? 85-90m total?
85 - 90 million was about the number MJG had postulated as max outlay for FFP about a month ago when others were saying the club would spend 40 - 50 mill. The way the deals seem to be structured I could see it being reported as "more", but with add ons and future payments the Khans are spreading the spend out over multiple years.
The other part which is impressive is the names reported have potential for resale value. Seri, Mitro, Marchand, Mawson?, Tierney? all would seem to be players where the club could recoup some if not all of their financial investment if needed. I am optimistic this is what Shad means when he describes his goal as making the club self sustainable.
Quote from: WhiteJC on July 29, 2018, 01:19:57 PM
I'm just worried its all been a dream and Derby's "fans" invaded the pitch with 2 minutes to go and we never had our day at Wemberly :012:
"Day at Wembley"...oh what a day it was...I'm getting emotional again! :yay:
FULHAM NEAR MAWSON MOVE
Fulham's move for Swansea defender Alfie Mawson is edging closer with talks at an advanced stage, according to Sky sources.
There is agreement on many aspects of the deal and it is hoped the transfer can be finalised in the next 48-72 hours.
Personal terms are not expected to be a problem.
Burnley and West Ham have both held talks with Swansea, but it appears their interest has now cooled.
Quote from: Statto on July 29, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
85 - 90 million was about the number MJG had postulated as max outlay for FFP about a month ago when others were saying the club would spend 40 - 50 mill.
Nope, it was the other way around. But in fairness to MJG our net spend thus far, even with Mitro, is only about £50m and the rest may be pie in the sky. So he may still be right.
Not really interested in getting in to a disagreement, because I believe you and I are of the same opinion as what the club should be doing transfer wise. But on pg 72 of this thread MJG says max of 90, but he thinks they will spend 60. That is what I am referring to.
My Brentford supporting colleague will choke on his liquorice if former Bees favourite Mawson signs for us.
Aleksandar Mitrovic in London finalising his move to Fulham
Aleksandar Mitrovic is in London finalising his move to Fulham, according to Sky sources.
Sky Sports News reported on Saturday night that the Serbian striker had left the Newcastle training camp in Porto after the two clubs agreed a fee of £22m rising to £27m for the 22-year-old.
Mitrovic will undergo a medical in the next 48 hours.
He spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage.
Mitrovic scored 12 goals in 20 matches while on loan, as the club secured promotion to the Premier League via the Sky Bet Championship play-offs.
Fulham have already completed the signings of Fabri, Maxime Le Marchand, Andre Schurrle and Jean Michael Seri this summer.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/11453191/aleksandar-mitrovic-in-london-finalising-his-move-to-fulham
Quote from: SP on July 29, 2018, 02:02:06 PM
My Brentford supporting colleague will choke on his liquorice if former Bees favourite Mawson signs for us.
He'll be ok if they put a sell on clause in
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 29, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
85 - 90 million was about the number MJG had postulated as max outlay for FFP about a month ago when others were saying the club would spend 40 - 50 mill.
Nope, it was the other way around. But in fairness to MJG our net spend thus far, even with Mitro, is only about £50m and the rest may be pie in the sky. So he may still be right.
Not really interested in getting in to a disagreement, because I believe you and I are of the same opinion as what the club should be doing transfer wise. But on pg 72 of this thread MJG says max of 90, but he thinks they will spend 60. That is what I am referring to.
WQas that before or after the cash injection through shares?
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 01:47:26 PM
FULHAM NEAR MAWSON MOVE
Fulham's move for Swansea defender Alfie Mawson is edging closer with talks at an advanced stage, according to Sky sources.
There is agreement on many aspects of the deal and it is hoped the transfer can be finalised in the next 48-72 hours.
Personal terms are not expected to be a problem.
Burnley and West Ham have both held talks with Swansea, but it appears their interest has now cooled.
I have just seen this as well,does anyone know what his fitness situation is. I still find it odd looking on the premier league banner,lol.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 29, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
85 - 90 million was about the number MJG had postulated as max outlay for FFP about a month ago when others were saying the club would spend 40 - 50 mill.
Nope, it was the other way around. But in fairness to MJG our net spend thus far, even with Mitro, is only about £50m and the rest may be pie in the sky. So he may still be right.
Not really interested in getting in to a disagreement, because I believe you and I are of the same opinion as what the club should be doing transfer wise. But on pg 72 of this thread MJG says max of 90, but he thinks they will spend 60. That is what I am referring to
WQas that before or after the cash injection through shares?
Personally I think that money is for the riverside.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 29, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 29, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
85 - 90 million was about the number MJG had postulated as max outlay for FFP about a month ago when others were saying the club would spend 40 - 50 mill.
Nope, it was the other way around. But in fairness to MJG our net spend thus far, even with Mitro, is only about £50m and the rest may be pie in the sky. So he may still be right.
Not really interested in getting in to a disagreement, because I believe you and I are of the same opinion as what the club should be doing transfer wise. But on pg 72 of this thread MJG says max of 90, but he thinks they will spend 60. That is what I am referring to
WQas that before or after the cash injection through shares?
Personally I think that money is for the riverside.
I thought that too. It might make sense for it to for capital investment.
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
Quote from: Twig on July 29, 2018, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 29, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 29, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 29, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
85 - 90 million was about the number MJG had postulated as max outlay for FFP about a month ago when others were saying the club would spend 40 - 50 mill.
Nope, it was the other way around. But in fairness to MJG our net spend thus far, even with Mitro, is only about £50m and the rest may be pie in the sky. So he may still be right.
Not really interested in getting in to a disagreement, because I believe you and I are of the same opinion as what the club should be doing transfer wise. But on pg 72 of this thread MJG says max of 90, but he thinks they will spend 60. That is what I am referring to
WQas that before or after the cash injection through shares?
Personally I think that money is for the riverside.
I thought that too. It might make sense for it to for capital investment.
i thought we would spend 60max in line with other clubs.. And tv inflation... Who have gone up recently.
Without selling anyone big, yes 90m I thought would be the max we could spend.
Quote from: Nero on July 29, 2018, 02:17:42 PM
Quote from: SP on July 29, 2018, 02:02:06 PM
My Brentford supporting colleague will choke on his liquorice if former Bees favourite Mawson signs for us.
He'll be ok if they put a sell on clause in
They wont - he was brought from Barnsley NOT Brentford - he left Brentford in 2015 after his contract ran out
Mawson deal has already been done,according to someone who I know and is an old Poster on here.
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
We've now drifted to 8/1 with him staying at celtic now 1/6 on so I assume this was fabricated
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
We've now drifted to 8/1 with him staying at celtic now 1/6 on so I assume this was fabricated
Talbot was at the Celtic-Rosenborg game. I think he had an eye on Tierney. Original report said that it depended on if Sessegnon was sold, it would be foolish not to plan for that eventuality.
Not everyone that gets linked or scouted signs, doesn't mean that anyone rumored that doesn't sign was fabricated.
Re Tierney. I have seen a fair bit of him playing for Celtic and Scotland and he is a class act. He is the best prospect to come out of Scottish football (Not that hard tbqh) in my 20odd years following football. On par with Andy Robertson. Massive Celtic fan though and is keen to stay. If Celtic fail to reach the champions league (likely) I can see him wanting a move though. Would be a tremendous addition and an upgrade on Targett.
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
We've now drifted to 8/1 with him staying at celtic now 1/6 on so I assume this was fabricated
No idea mate, only inside info I've got or ever had relates to Mawson
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 29, 2018, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
We've now drifted to 8/1 with him staying at celtic now 1/6 on so I assume this was fabricated
No idea mate, only inside info I've got or ever had relates to Mawson
Is Mawson done as some people have suggested?
Mawson getting over injury.
Didn't we get a lad from Portugal last season who was recovering from injury...😵😵😵😵😵
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 29, 2018, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
We've now drifted to 8/1 with him staying at celtic now 1/6 on so I assume this was fabricated
No idea mate, only inside info I've got or ever had relates to Mawson
Is Mawson done as some people have suggested?
As far as I've been told its done, his old man said it was practically wrapped up friday night. Fulham were negotiating a package with Swansea.
I've heard that he could be having a medical in the morning but that's not from AMs end but a usually reliable source.
You never know in football, someone could come in at the last minute. West Ham came back in & others rumoured but If I had to stick my neck out I reckon he'll be a Fulham player by Tuesday latest
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
Mawson getting over injury.
Didn't we get a lad from Portugal last season who was recovering from injury...😵😵😵😵😵
Think we'd be inclined to be a bit more lenient with Mawson than Rafa Soares considering how much we're meant to be paying for him.
Would like to see us sign another Centre-Back if we're signing Mawson. Can't see him being properly fit for Palace considering he's not played a minute of Pre-Season. Even if it's just a freebie like Serdar Tasci or Wollscheid to hold us over and give us a proper right-footed Centre-Back option on the bench when Mawson is fit.
Personally would like to see us sign Christian Luyindama from Standard Liege. Had a good season with them, can play Centre-Back and DM, would be reasonably cheap and he's quite young.
I think MLM is more of a centre back than a left back, so i'd prefer a left back as priority extra cover.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
Mawson getting over injury.
Didn't we get a lad from Portugal last season who was recovering from injury...😵😵😵😵😵
Think we'd be inclined to be a bit more lenient with Mawson than Rafa Soares considering how much we're meant to be paying for him.
Alfie Mawson is in the stages of conditioning, on his way to match fitness. There appears to be no initial fear that he would not pass a medical, but you never know until tests have been carried out.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
I think MLM is more of a centre back than a left back, so i'd prefer a left back as priority extra cover.
Not comfortable with playing two Left-Footers at Centre-Back which we would be doing with Ream and Le Marchand. Just feel like it'd be quite awkward.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
I think MLM is more of a centre back than a left back, so i'd prefer a left back as priority extra cover.
Not comfortable with playing two Left-Footers at Centre-Back which we would be doing with Ream and Le Marchand. Just feel like it'd be quite awkward.
I imagine that a few teams play with 2x right-footers, or even a right-footed left back
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
He was watched by chief scout Brian Talbot the other night.
This is just an alternative at the moment, another string to the bow if another deal falls through possibly. Which goes to show the level the club have set their sights.
Which indicates the club mean business, striking while the iron is hot, and whilst we have the momentum.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
Mawson getting over injury.
Didn't we get a lad from Portugal last season who was recovering from injury...😵😵😵😵😵
Think we'd be inclined to be a bit more lenient with Mawson than Rafa Soares considering how much we're meant to be paying for him.
Alfie Mawson is in the stages of conditioning, on his way to match fitness. There appears to be no initial fear that he would not pass a medical, but you never know until tests have been carried out.
Getting over an injury at this stage of the season suggests the injury has been carried over from last season and that treatment has been ongoing for a while.
Are we taking a big risk on this one.
Quote from: filham on July 29, 2018, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
Mawson getting over injury.
Didn't we get a lad from Portugal last season who was recovering from injury...😵😵😵😵😵
Think we'd be inclined to be a bit more lenient with Mawson than Rafa Soares considering how much we're meant to be paying for him.
Alfie Mawson is in the stages of conditioning, on his way to match fitness. There appears to be no initial fear that he would not pass a medical, but you never know until tests have been carried out.
Getting over an injury at this stage of the season suggests the injury has been carried over from last season and that treatment has been ongoing for a while.
Are we taking a big risk on this one.
He played with an injury last season and had an operation at the end of the season from which he's recovering now
Fulhams medical will be thorough as always. If there was any danger of a deal of this magnitude falling foul of a medical, I doubt it would have advanced this far.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
He was watched by chief scout Brian Talbot the other night.
This is just an alternative at the moment, another string to the bow if another deal falls through possibly. Which goes to show the level the club have set their sights.
Which indicates the club mean business, striking while the iron is hot, and whilst we have the momentum.
Is the other deal, that this is a back up for, a better player than Tierney?!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
Fulhams medical will be thorough as always. If there was any danger of a deal of this magnitude falling foul of a medical, I doubt it would have advanced this far.
As they were for Mitroglou
Surely this summer is turning out to be a record spend period for us, can't remember anything like it.
Not necessarily a good thing of course, we have to wait and see how they all perform. We have been known to sign the odd big money dud here and there before.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
Fulhams medical will be thorough as always. If there was any danger of a deal of this magnitude falling foul of a medical, I doubt it would have advanced this far.
As they were for Mitroglou
That is correct.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
Fulhams medical will be thorough as always. If there was any danger of a deal of this magnitude falling foul of a medical, I doubt it would have advanced this far.
As they were for Mitroglou
That is correct.
That was 4 years ago. Times have changed.
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
Woolly or Hillington, is there any truth in the Tierney rumours? We're 6/1 on SkyBet now, from being nowhere on the odds yesterday
He was watched by chief scout Brian Talbot the other night.
This is just an alternative at the moment, another string to the bow if another deal falls through possibly. Which goes to show the level the club have set their sights.
Which indicates the club mean business, striking while the iron is hot, and whilst we have the momentum.
Is the other deal, that this is a back up for, a better player than Tierney?!
Everton are apparently going for that lad Digne, 25, from Barcelona for 25m who plays left back. He's the only bigger name being touted around at the moment.
Plattenhardt was linked earlier in the window for around the same fees.
Plattenhardt was the one I thought of as well. Especially with some of the other teams linked with him like Everton, Bournemouth, Huddersfield etc. finding their Left-Back needs met elsewhere.
Quote from: filham on July 29, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Surely this summer is turning out to be a record spend period for us, can't remember anything like it.
Not necessarily a good thing of course, we have to wait and see how they all perform. We have been known to sign the odd big money dud here and there before.
Show me a Chairman or Manager that says he has never bought a dud, and I will show you a liar.
To accumulate you need to speculate, the club are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
But this period since the World Cup finished has shown genuine intent, with figures I used to think were for other clubs to play with.
So I am grateful that investments are being made in players that will not only help the club hold its own and stay up, but will assist us in moving on to the next stage.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 29, 2018, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
Fulhams medical will be thorough as always. If there was any danger of a deal of this magnitude falling foul of a medical, I doubt it would have advanced this far.
As they were for Mitroglou
That is correct.
That was 4 years ago. Times have changed.
Yes you are right, they have indeed changed, and that's the difference.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
Quote from: filham on July 29, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Surely this summer is turning out to be a record spend period for us, can't remember anything like it.
Not necessarily a good thing of course, we have to wait and see how they all perform. We have been known to sign the odd big money dud here and there before.
Show me a Chairman or Manager that says he has never bought a dud, and I will show you a liar.
To accumulate you need to speculate, the club are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
But this period since the World Cup finished has shown genuine intent, with figures I used to think were for other clubs to play with.
So I am greatful that investments are being made in players that will not only help the club hold its own and stay up, but will assist us in moving on to the next stage.
+1
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
I think MLM is more of a centre back than a left back, so i'd prefer a left back as priority extra cover.
Not comfortable with playing two Left-Footers at Centre-Back which we would be doing with Ream and Le Marchand. Just feel like it'd be quite awkward.
I imagine that a few teams play with 2x right-footers, or even a right-footed left back
You don't get a centre footed centre back though
From Twitter (and translated from French which is why the wording's a bit off)
"Joshua Guilavogui (Wolfsburg) would be in contact with Fulham. Interests are reciprocal. Negotiations in progress. (@ManuLonjon)"
Would be a proper DM as opposed to Herrera.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
From Twitter (and translated from French which is why the wording's a bit off)
"Joshua Guilavogui (Wolfsburg) would be in contact with Fulham. Interests are reciprocal. Negotiations in progress. (@ManuLonjon)"
Would be a proper DM as opposed to Herrera.
Valued at 7 million euros on transfermkt
SUMMER TRANSFER SPENDING
1. Liverpool - £176.9m
2. West Ham - £94.9m
3. Man Utd - £81.7m
4. Arsenal - £70.6m
5. Man City - £60m
6. Chelsea - £57m
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
From Twitter (and translated from French which is why the wording's a bit off)
"Joshua Guilavogui (Wolfsburg) would be in contact with Fulham. Interests are reciprocal. Negotiations in progress. (@ManuLonjon)"
Would be a proper DM as opposed to Herrera.
Valued at 7 million euros on transfermkt
Their valuations aren't worth paying attention to but he'll cost somewhere between £15m-£25m I would imagine. He's a proper DM and strong as an Ox too with a good eye for a pass, would be a good upgrade on Kmac.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
From Twitter (and translated from French which is why the wording's a bit off)
"Joshua Guilavogui (Wolfsburg) would be in contact with Fulham. Interests are reciprocal. Negotiations in progress. (@ManuLonjon)"
Would be a proper DM as opposed to Herrera.
Valued at 7 million euros on transfermkt
Their valuations aren't worth paying attention to but he'll cost somewhere between £15m-£25m I would imagine. He's a proper DM and strong as an Ox too with a good eye for a pass, would be a good upgrade on Kmac.
Why would he be £15m to £25m when Wolfsburg apparently paid less than £3m in May 2016 following which he broke his neck two months later?
Anyone got an update on Hector Herrera?
I thought that one was pretty close aswell?
Quote from: Ordar on July 29, 2018, 05:19:47 PM
Anyone got an update on Hector Herrera?
I thought that one was pretty close aswell?
Sky had him as 8th in their top 10 transfer whispers today
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 29, 2018, 05:18:06 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
From Twitter (and translated from French which is why the wording's a bit off)
"Joshua Guilavogui (Wolfsburg) would be in contact with Fulham. Interests are reciprocal. Negotiations in progress. (@ManuLonjon)"
Would be a proper DM as opposed to Herrera.
Valued at 7 million euros on transfermkt
Their valuations aren't worth paying attention to but he'll cost somewhere between £15m-£25m I would imagine. He's a proper DM and strong as an Ox too with a good eye for a pass, would be a good upgrade on Kmac.
Why would he be £15m to £25m when Wolfsburg apparently paid less than £3m in May 2016 following which he broke his neck two months later?
Because he's one of the better defensive midfielders in Europe and that's his value? We bought Cairney for £4m and two years later he was worth £20m with a bad knee so I'm not sure what point you're making?
Could say the same for many players.. Kante £5m then suddenly £30m+.
All these rumours it's a tough one, I'm waiting to see what comes through especially when they're all record prices for us. Soon find out!
These are certainly exciting times. Thought we were slightly off the pace initially & became anxious that team gelling would be an issue if we bought later rather than earlier but it's my feeling now that it's coming together. The FFC sums being touted around are staggering & I am becoming more positive. The phrase "Never had it so good" nearly trips off my tongue.
Life on the rollercoaster! It's great.coyw
I just happy for the Khans they promised they would get us up and now they are investing because we are up. A lot of respect to them guys
Quote from: ollienixs on July 29, 2018, 05:55:16 PM
I just happy for the Khans they promised they would get us up and now they are investing because we are up. A lot of respect to them guys
massive respect!!
Mitro is in London, ahead of preparing for his medical.
Quote from: General on July 29, 2018, 02:09:47 AM
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
How on earth did you conjure up 52 million for our signings so far? You are as bad as a 10 yr old journalist.
Widely quoted Seri and LM were 30, Fabri 5-5.4million - how do you figure a two year loan deal is worth £16-£17m?
Clueless AF.
I don't post much, but this type of reaction would discourage anybody from wanting to engage in what's supposed to be positive discussion. Petty, angry, and uncalled for.
Also, he was likely factoring in Mitro's signing which is imminent at this point, which will bring us to around £56m.
Quote from: SWAD on July 29, 2018, 06:28:35 PM
Quote from: General on July 29, 2018, 02:09:47 AM
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 28, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
Isnt Tierney meant to be super good? And one of the best young prospects around?
Yep.
Wow we're certainly shopping in Selfridges for our players this window.
We've spent - what, about 52m so far? How much more do people expect Fulham to spend this window. Another 100m?!? Still so many gaps to fill!
How on earth did you conjure up 52 million for our signings so far? You are as bad as a 10 yr old journalist.
Widely quoted Seri and LM were 30, Fabri 5-5.4million - how do you figure a two year loan deal is worth £16-£17m?
Clueless AF.
I don't post much, but this type of reaction would discourage anybody from wanting to engage in what's supposed to be positive discussion. Petty, angry, and uncalled for.
I said it before and say it again, no one has any clue about our finances in terms of what we can spend, what we have spent or intend too. There are so many ways that the owners can manipulate the finances to suit not sure why people get so worked up with trying to know the ins and outs. Just enjoy it, we have an owner who is investing in us. Fulham football club has an owner that I feel has taken a real shine to this small London club on the Thames
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 05:28:16 PM
Quote from: Barry@ENF on July 29, 2018, 05:18:06 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 29, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
From Twitter (and translated from French which is why the wording's a bit off)
"Joshua Guilavogui (Wolfsburg) would be in contact with Fulham. Interests are reciprocal. Negotiations in progress. (@ManuLonjon)"
Would be a proper DM as opposed to Herrera.
Valued at 7 million euros on transfermkt
Their valuations aren't worth paying attention to but he'll cost somewhere between £15m-£25m I would imagine. He's a proper DM and strong as an Ox too with a good eye for a pass, would be a good upgrade on Kmac.
Why would he be £15m to £25m when Wolfsburg apparently paid less than £3m in May 2016 following which he broke his neck two months later?
Because he's one of the better defensive midfielders in Europe and that's his value? We bought Cairney for £4m and two years later he was worth £20m with a bad knee so I'm not sure what point you're making?
I was not making a point - just asking a question. Maybe you are right with your valuation as sometimes values do rise sharply; but in his case he played 84 times for Wolfsburg in the two years prior to their buying him for under £3m and in the two years subsequently he has played 54 games for them. As I say, you may well be correct.
Why all the c**p about the spend exactly,who gives a Monkees there walking the prices up.Relavant all of it!!
Bobby Zamora has signed for Brighton,',,,,, ,, As club ambassador
Quote from: bobby01 on July 29, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
Bobby Zamora has signed for Brighton,',,,,, ,, As club ambassador
great for Brighton as he was a great proffesional.
2010 very important player in our run to euru final if he'd been fully fit I believe we'd have won it!
Thanks Bobby Z respect
So sounds like both Mitro and Mawson could possibly be announced on the same day - Tuesday! If both are in the final stages and just need to do medical.. or late evening tomorrow?
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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Rehashed news i reckon.... it's good old reliable HITC
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/29/tt-report-fulham-in-new-targett-bid-as-move-for-manchester-citys/
Report: Fulham in new Targett bid as move for Manchester City's Zinchenko said too complicated
According to the Mirror (live transfer thread, July 29 at 17:27), Fulham have made a new bid for Southampton's Matt Targett after considering a move for Manchester City's Oleksandr Zinchenko as too complicated.
The report claims the Saints are ready to listen to Fulham's raised bid for the left-back, while Werder Bremen's Ludwig Augustinsson was another name the Cottagers were said to be considering, but opted against.
Targett spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage and thoroughly impressed, helping the club achieve promotion to the Premier League via the Championship playoffs.
Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic has made no secret of his desire to sign the former England U21 international on a permanent deal, but so far Southampton have been reluctant to sell.
It seems as if the Cottagers had moved on and switched their attentions to Manchester City's Zinchenko, yet a move for the Citizens ace has been cited as too complicated with the Ukrainian seemingly keen to stay (the Mirror).
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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And all from car boots
Quote from: Holders on July 29, 2018, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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And all from car boots
Bumpers but I got the gag :005:
https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/29/fulham-make-improved-offer-for-matt-targett/
Fulham have reportedly returned with a fresh offer for Southampton defender Matt Targett.
The Whites remain desperate to complete a deal for Targett before the transfer window slams shut on August 9 and according to the Mirror, an 'improved offer' has been submitted.
It was reported earlier on this month that Fulham had made a new proposal of £8 million for the Saints defender. However, it seems Slavisa Jokanovic's side have since upped their efforts the recruit Targett.
The Saints' academy graduate spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage and enjoyed a successful stint. Targett helped the club secure promotion to the Premier League, and now they want to land him on a permanent basis.
Targett is currently behind Ryan Bertrand in the pecking order of left-backs at Southampton, although he has featured regularly under Mark Hughes in pre-season so far.
Fulham have been busy in the transfer window and it looks as though they are determined to lure Targett away from St Mary's Stadium in the next two weeks.
Quote from: bobby01 on July 29, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
Bobby Zamora has signed for Brighton,',,,,, ,, As club ambassador
I got this bloke very wrong. For the first few seasons with us I thought that he wasn't scoring the small number of goals necessary to justify his place as a forward, despite his obvious other useful contributions. Then, when he did start scoring and becoming the best English player of his type for a while, I thought he didn't like being here and wasn't really in love with the game.
His subsequent determination to prolong his career disproved the latter point and his moving and sincere message to the squad before the play-off final disproved the former.
Good luck to him in his future role and I apologise for my doubts (although he won't ever read it!)
501 Football News
@501FootballNews
Alfie Mawson has completed his move to Fulham.
#Done #FFC #SCFC
Posted around 50mins ago.... we know what the itks are like on twitter but I hope this is true
Hillingdon. Is that correct?
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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You get £5 for lunch,lucky you.
The wife only gives me 30 bob and a couple of Alka Seltzers.😩
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2018, 09:23:54 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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You get £5 for lunch,lucky you.
The wife only gives me 30 bob and a couple of Alka Seltzers.😩
Two Alka Seltzers? You're lucky!
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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It's not about worrying about Khan's wealth it about how Fulham is doing in its current situation.
It's of interest to quite a few on here with regards the finances of the club, if you don't care then pass on by the posts.
[/quote]It's not about worrying about Khan's wealth it about how Fulham is doing in its current situation.
It's of interest to quite a few on here with regards the finances of the club, if you don't care then pass on by the posts.
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I am with you MJG
I currently believe we are going to spend £100 million !!!
I assume the club can afford this with any Financial Rules around ?
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It may end up being well in excess of £100m, depending how circumstances pan out.
Quote from: MJG on July 29, 2018, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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It's not about worrying about Khan's wealth it about how Fulham is doing in its current situation.
It's of interest to quite a few on here with regards the finances of the club, if you don't care then pass on by the posts.
Seriously , you worry to much, 3 seasons in the Premier League and he will be getting his money back and some,
I wonder if Wolves fans are enjoying their summer or are they wetting the bed like some on here ?
Moments in time like this are few and far between, embrace it and enjoy.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 11:37:37 PM
It may end up being well in excess of £100m, depending how circumstances pan out.
I like this. Not for the fact we're spending that much (I loathe the sums in the modern game), but more for the sign of intent, the desire it shows to be taken seriously and to be confidently ambitious and because it's linked to the desire to grow this club and have confidence in who we are as a club, what we can offer and more. I know the first few years were a bit of a nightmare but starting to really respect the khan's as a unit.
To fire your best friend to back the manager and acknowledge his talent, to support it, to use the loan window so well when in the Championship; to rebuild properly, to put an onus on the academy, to play football the right way, to then reward the players whove done well for you properly and more and possibly even listen to fans to incorporate more club history into the new stand (which feels like it may actually get built), to be open with communication to fans. .. it's all a very solid outlook. Just hope they're around for a long time, maintain the ambition and growth and don't forget the fans as the club continues to grow by charging astronomical prices for games.
The fact we've spend perhaps around 40m now and brought in 4 quality players and potentially may be spending over 60 more is a powerful statement of how far we've come as a club.
Want to thank MAF even more now for his initial investment and stewardship and due diligence into the khan's and selling the club to them.
Would be great if we could dedicate one of the games next season to MAF and his legacy and another to shahid and Tony and theirs.
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 01:44:13 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 29, 2018, 11:37:37 PM
It may end up being well in excess of £100m, depending how circumstances pan out.
I like this. Not for the fact we're spending that much (I loathe the sums in the modern game), but more for the sign of intent, the desire it shows to be taken seriously and to be confidently ambitious and because it's linked to the desire to grow this club and have confidence in who we are as a club, what we can offer and more. I know the first few years were a bit of a nightmare but starting to really respect the khan's as a unit.
To fire your best friend to back the manager and acknowledge his talent, to support it, to use the loan window so well when in the Championship; to rebuild properly, to put an onus on the academy, to play football the right way, to then reward the players whove done well for you properly and more and possibly even listen to fans to incorporate more club history into the new stand (which feels like it may actually get built), to be open with communication to fans. .. it's all a very solid outlook. Just hope they're around for a long time, maintain the ambition and growth and don't forget the fans as the club continues to grow by charging astronomical prices for games.
The fact we've spend perhaps around 40m now and brought in 4 quality players and potentially may be spending over 60 more is a powerful statement of how far we've come as a club.
Want to thank MAF even more now for his initial investment and stewardship and due diligence into the khan's and selling the club to them.
Would be great if we could dedicate one of the games next season to MAF and his legacy and another to shahid and Tony and theirs.
Im with you on this as far as the intent is concerned,
There are two ways to enter the Premier League,
Option 1, stroll up to the front door, and gently tap on the door and at the same time politely ask "Hello is anybody there"
Or
Option 2, The Michael Caine approach and you can "Blow the bloody doors off"
Thankfully Fulham and Wolves (who are both a breath of fresh air to the Premier League) have both chosen to take the Michael Caine approach, and long may it continue.
The owner and club obviously realise that we need a squad of top quality players to compete in the Prem, and they are pursuing this goal it seems.
But people did doubt that they realised this, or if they did, would do much about it, with dire warnings, just a couple of weeks ago, of hardly being able to field a team for our first game of the season.
Now we do have top players in, and seem in the process of ensuring we havegood players, and cover, for most positions, as far as is possible in the short time between Wembley's triumph and the season's start.
Though obviously thee is little times for players to gel together, but I feel that care has been taken to get in players who will fit into Fulham's style, and team ethos, with favourites Mitro, and possibly Targett , coming back too.
But, I don't think anyone should be complacent.
We need to hit the ground running in this very competitive league. I am very excited about the coming season, but also don't know how things will develop, but they way we've added to the squad, and the ambition and determination to success shown, gives me greater confidence that we will at least survive, and hopefully prosper, than before.
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 11:57:25 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 29, 2018, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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It's not about worrying about Khan's wealth it about how Fulham is doing in its current situation.
It's of interest to quite a few on here with regards the finances of the club, if you don't care then pass on by the posts.
Seriously , you worry to much, 3 seasons in the Premier League and he will be getting his money back and some,
I wonder if Wolves fans are enjoying their summer or are they wetting the bed like some on here ?
Moments in time like this are few and far between, embrace it and enjoy.
who's worrying? You seem more concerned about other posters than they are about Khan.
And I reckon we can multi task and not everything has to be in black and white, so yes we can all enjoy the moment and look at bigger picture as well.
Quote from: Riverside on July 29, 2018, 11:34:00 PM
It's not about worrying about Khan's wealth it about how Fulham is doing in its current situation.
It's of interest to quite a few on here with regards the finances of the club, if you don't care then pass on by the posts.
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I am with you MJG
I currently believe we are going to spend £100 million !!!
I assume the club can afford this with any Financial Rules around ?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
[/quote]the can, but as I've said before that's about the max they could do, and we would have to stay up.
Given the way the rules work in the PL with regards wage increases we are front loading the wage bill to as high as we can go without being stupid. Then when the restrictions on increasing it affect us next year we already have a higher base line to work from. In some ways a costly wage loan like Andre Schurrle works really well in those circumstances.
And I thought running a football club was just about getting 11 players on the pitch and making sure the halftime oranges were ready.
I think that talking about the owners money and how much he has, should or could spend has been done to DEATH
I will tempt fate by saying that I think Mitro and Mawson appear to be in the bag so with the others signings what does everyone think?
Have the owners lived up to your expectations or exceed them?
At some point I remember the owner saying that he wanted us to compete in the PL league and not just survive
Are we anywhere near to having a truly competitive team?
P.S. I know we still need to recruit more players and I think that has been done to death too - so lets assume we will fill in the gaps before the window closes - because I can't see any other option given the recruitment so far - so leave that alone too
P.S. I know we still need to recruit more players and I think that has been done to death too - so lets assume we will fill in the gaps before the window closes - because I can't see any other option given the recruitment so far - so leave that alone too
TBH, this is the transfer thread so talking about recruitment is a bit of a given.
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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Although I do agree with the general sentiment,
If shahid khan spending 50m is the equivalent of you spending £5 on lunch then your net worth is £800.
I would be very surprised if this is the case.
Quote from: The Cravenette on July 30, 2018, 07:50:58 AM
P.S. I know we still need to recruit more players and I think that has been done to death too - so lets assume we will fill in the gaps before the window closes - because I can't see any other option given the recruitment so far - so leave that alone too
TBH, this is the transfer thread so talking about recruitment is a bit of a given.
Yes BUT does every post have to include a list of positions that we might still need to fill - no names - just trott out the positions?
I take it you have no view on our recruitment so far or if we heading in the right direction - which is what I was interested to hear ?
Quote from: The Cravenette on July 30, 2018, 07:50:58 AM
P.S. I know we still need to recruit more players and I think that has been done to death too - so lets assume we will fill in the gaps before the window closes - because I can't see any other option given the recruitment so far - so leave that alone too
TBH, this is the transfer thread so talking about recruitment is a bit of a given.
😀
Quote from: MJG on July 29, 2018, 09:40:06 PM
It's not about worrying about Khan's wealth it about how Fulham is doing in its current situation.
It's of interest to quite a few on here with regards the finances of the club, if you don't care then pass on by the posts.
Agree MJG. It is in every FFC fan's interest that the Club remains in good order financially and conducts itself within the rules.
Did anything ever happen with the super quick right-back Mbabu?
Quote from: @jolslover on July 30, 2018, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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Although I do agree with the general sentiment,
If shahid khan spending 50m is the equivalent of you spending £5 on lunch then your net worth is £800.
I would be very surprised if this is the case.
and I was going to ask Riversider if he could lend me £20 until payday.
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 29, 2018, 08:38:22 PM
https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/29/fulham-make-improved-offer-for-matt-targett/
Fulham have reportedly returned with a fresh offer for Southampton defender Matt Targett.
The Whites remain desperate to complete a deal for Targett before the transfer window slams shut on August 9 and according to the Mirror, an 'improved offer' has been submitted.
It was reported earlier on this month that Fulham had made a new proposal of £8 million for the Saints defender. However, it seems Slavisa Jokanovic's side have since upped their efforts the recruit Targett.
The Saints' academy graduate spent the second half of last season on loan at Craven Cottage and enjoyed a successful stint. Targett helped the club secure promotion to the Premier League, and now they want to land him on a permanent basis.
Targett is currently behind Ryan Bertrand in the pecking order of left-backs at Southampton, although he has featured regularly under Mark Hughes in pre-season so far.
Fulham have been busy in the transfer window and it looks as though they are determined to lure Targett away from St Mary's Stadium in the next two weeks.
Represents good value for money - let's hope we can land him
So, going into a new week. Looks like Mitro and Mawson are close/ done. I have also seen Hector Herrera pop up on Sky Sports transfer whispers before falling off it again. Rumours are that we have gone back in for Targett.
Could be a very busy week and if it could end with a new contract for Joka/ Sess and a win at sampdoria then we should all feel positive going into the new season with just the final few days of the window (where surely we will use up our final loan spot).
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 10:47:11 AM
So, going into a new week. Looks like Mitro and Mawson are close/ done. I have also seen Hector Herrera pop up on Sky Sports transfer whispers before falling off it again. Rumours are that we have gone back in for Targett.
Could be a very busy week and if it could end with a new contract for Joka/ Sess and a win at sampdoria then we should all feel positive going into the new season with just the final few days of the window (where surely we will use up our final loan spot).
Schurrle being a Dortmund player means we can still get 2 loans from prem teams and as many foreign players as we wish. Not really sure who we'd want from prem teams though on a loan unless we loaned someone like Bakayoko for the DM role or potentially a striker/defender who's out of favour and would fit our system?
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 10:47:11 AM
So, going into a new week. Looks like Mitro and Mawson are close/ done. I have also seen Hector Herrera pop up on Sky Sports transfer whispers before falling off it again. Rumours are that we have gone back in for Targett.
Could be a very busy week and if it could end with a new contract for Joka/ Sess and a win at sampdoria then we should all feel positive going into the new season with just the final few days of the window (where surely we will use up our final loan spot).
Schurrle being a Dortmund player means we can still get 2 loans from prem teams and as many foreign players as we wish. Not really sure who we'd want from prem teams though on a loan unless we loaned someone like Bakayoko for the DM role or potentially a striker/defender who's out of favour and would fit our system?
I'm still thinkling Tammy abraham as a loan option as backup to Mitro makes alot of sense. Espesh with his brother being here.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alfie-mawson-set-leave-swansea-14968517
Quote from: mkras99 on July 30, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alfie-mawson-set-leave-swansea-14968517
I do feel a bit concerned that a position we badly need strengthening in will cost so much but the player will still be injured for the start of the season.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 10:47:11 AM
So, going into a new week. Looks like Mitro and Mawson are close/ done. I have also seen Hector Herrera pop up on Sky Sports transfer whispers before falling off it again. Rumours are that we have gone back in for Targett.
Could be a very busy week and if it could end with a new contract for Joka/ Sess and a win at sampdoria then we should all feel positive going into the new season with just the final few days of the window (where surely we will use up our final loan spot).
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Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2018, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 30, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alfie-mawson-set-leave-swansea-14968517
I do feel a bit concerned that a position we badly need strengthening in will cost so much but the player will still be injured for the start of the season.
Thought that I'd read somewhere that he was already back in training? Or, am I confusing him with another?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2018, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 30, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alfie-mawson-set-leave-swansea-14968517
I do feel a bit concerned that a position we badly need strengthening in will cost so much but the player will still be injured for the start of the season.
Thought that I'd read somewhere that he was already back in training? Or, am I confusing him with another?
I think I read that as well. But in training doesn't mean he is fit yet I suppose.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2018, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 30, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alfie-mawson-set-leave-swansea-14968517
I do feel a bit concerned that a position we badly need strengthening in will cost so much but the player will still be injured for the start of the season.
Thought that I'd read somewhere that he was already back in training? Or, am I confusing him with another?
That's what I recall that I read but I wouldn't rely on it. I daresay we'll find out when/if he signs.
he is only just back in training so almost certainly wont be fit enough to start v palace, expect him on the bench tho.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2018, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2018, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 30, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alfie-mawson-set-leave-swansea-14968517
I do feel a bit concerned that a position we badly need strengthening in will cost so much but the player will still be injured for the start of the season.
Thought that I'd read somewhere that he was already back in training? Or, am I confusing him with another?
I think I read that as well. But in training doesn't mean he is fit yet I suppose.
True enough. Was his injury to do with an MCL problem, out of curiosity. I didn't find much beyond mention of knee surgery and that he'd played through the injury for several months. I'm assuming MCL because, I've seen several NFL players play with that problem and have off season operations. Those repairs don't seem to take near the time to heal as, say, any sort of ACL procedure.
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
we can see how these guys cope with the premier league - hopefully well - so we will have plenty of options even if mawson is first choice when fit.
Quote from: LRCN on July 30, 2018, 01:26:45 PM
he is only just back in training so almost certainly wont be fit enough to start v palace, expect him on the bench tho.
Holy smokes! You're alive! Haven't seen you pop up here or on Twitter in an age. Hope you are well.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Odoi is suspended for the first 2 games...
Quote from: mlangstrom on July 30, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Odoi is suspended for the first 2 games...
I've seen a few people say this but not sure how Odoi is suspended? Does his red card from Wembley carry over as I'd have thought that it wouldnt as it was last season.
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 30, 2018, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on July 30, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Odoi is suspended for the first 2 games...
I've seen a few people say this but not sure how Odoi is suspended? Does his red card from Wembley carry over as I'd have thought that it wouldnt as it was last season.
"If a player receives two yellow cards in the same game, he is suspended for the next game only."
FA rules. Full stop I thought as well. If you get 10 yellow's total though it can be a 2 league game suspension and perhaps where this comes from, though I thought the 2 league game rule slate was swiped clean after the end of the season.
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 30, 2018, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on July 30, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Odoi is suspended for the first 2 games...
I've seen a few people say this but not sure how Odoi is suspended? Does his red card from Wembley carry over as I'd have thought that it wouldnt as it was last season.
Just checked the fa website and he's suspended for 2 games. I always thought that two yellows, resulting in red, was a single game ban.
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 30, 2018, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 30, 2018, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on July 30, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Odoi is suspended for the first 2 games...
I've seen a few people say this but not sure how Odoi is suspended? Does his red card from Wembley carry over as I'd have thought that it wouldnt as it was last season.
Just checked the fa website and he's suspended for 2 games. I always thought that two yellows, resulting in red, was a single game ban.
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions
Why would that be two games? Bizarre if you ask me.
Quote from: The Rock on July 30, 2018, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on July 30, 2018, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on July 30, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Even IF Mawson is injured or not match ready for say 3 games, I'd still be happy starting that period for stand ins from odoi/ream/marchand
Odoi is suspended for the first 2 games...
I've seen a few people say this but not sure how Odoi is suspended? Does his red card from Wembley carry over as I'd have thought that it wouldnt as it was last season.
"If a player receives two yellow cards in the same game, he is suspended for the next game only."
FA rules. Full stop I thought as well. I haven't seen anywhere that he would be banned for a special period of 2 games - but perhaps there is some double penalty for Championship playoff matches.
I think it could be because he got sent of at Brentford earlier in the same season. First two yellow cards suspension = 1 game ban. Second two yellow cards suspension = 2 game ban. Not sure though.
Probably an extra game added because he was previously sent off against Brentford.
Normally 1 game suspension on reaching 10 yellow cards so imagine the 2 yellow cards at Wembley took him to 15 yellow cards for the season which is an automatic 2 game suspension
What I meant to type before my computer crashed is:
If you get 10 yellow's total though it can be a 2 league game suspension and perhaps where this comes from, though I thought the 2 league game rule slate was swiped clean after the end of the season.
Quote from: sarnian on July 30, 2018, 02:30:43 PM
Normally 1 game suspension on reaching 10 yellow cards so imagine the 2 yellow cards at Wembley took him to 15 yellow cards for the season which is an automatic 2 game suspension
Potentially, I thought the slate got wiped/swiped clean though as the whole point is the "accruage" to a certain point in time, that being until the end of a season.
Apparently that might not be the case if it is violated by/at the end of the season, the penatly must be honoured...
Stuart James
Guardian & Observer football writer in the Midlands/Wales/anywhere this job takes me
@StuartJamesGNM
Alfie Mawson set to undergo a medical at Fulham tomorrow. Fee about £15m. Ready to return to full training after knee op - could be fit for opening day.
Swansea deals for Celina & McKay close. Nothing imminent with Nmecha by sound of things. Still desperate for a midfielder.
Fulham targeting APOEL Nicosia's Hungarian international winger Roland Sallai
Found this in the rules
Two First Team matches plus a fine of £20
If in the final match before the second Sunday of March a Player accumulates his
tenth caution in any Competition since the opening day of the Playing season
and then receives a second caution in the same match and consequently is
dismissed, the Player will be suspended automatically for a period covering
Two First Team Matches plus a fine of £20. This two match suspension will
automatically apply in such cases, instead of the one match automatic
suspension which would otherwise apply to a Player who is sent off for receiving
two cautions in the same match.
Quote from: The Rock on July 30, 2018, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 30, 2018, 02:30:43 PM
Normally 1 game suspension on reaching 10 yellow cards so imagine the 2 yellow cards at Wembley took him to 15 yellow cards for the season which is an automatic 2 game suspension
Potentially, I thought the slate got wiped/swiped clean though as the whole point is the "accruage" to a certain point in time, that being until the end of a season.
Apparently that might not be the case if it is violated by/at the end of the season, the penatly must be honoured...
It appears no red cards subject to appeal, get wiped clean, under English FA regulations. Whichever the end of the Football Pyramid.
Quote from: twang on July 30, 2018, 02:35:34 PM
Stuart James
Guardian & Observer football writer in the Midlands/Wales/anywhere this job takes me
@StuartJamesGNM
Alfie Mawson set to undergo a medical at Fulham tomorrow. Fee about £15m. Ready to return to full training after knee op - could be fit for opening day.
Swansea deals for Celina & McKay close. Nothing imminent with Nmecha by sound of things. Still desperate for a midfielder.
if this is accurate, £15m is a snip!
Looks like Mawson deal is happening
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6897595/fulham-transfer-news-apoel-nicosia-roland-sallai/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:TheSunFootball:TwImageandlink:Statement:Sport
Quote from: The Rock on July 30, 2018, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 30, 2018, 02:30:43 PM
Normally 1 game suspension on reaching 10 yellow cards so imagine the 2 yellow cards at Wembley took him to 15 yellow cards for the season which is an automatic 2 game suspension
Potentially, I thought the slate got wiped/swiped clean though as the whole point is the "accruage" to a certain point in time, that being until the end of a season.
Apparently that might not be the case if it is violated by/at the end of the season, the penatly must be honoured...
As he got sent off in the Championship, it should NOT apply to the Premier League. If & when he plays again in the Championship, he can serve his two match ban then.
That's how it works with FFP, just ask QPR!!
COYW
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 02:37:56 PM
Fulham targeting APOEL Nicosia's Hungarian international winger Roland Sallai
The new Zoltan Gera? From Zolly to Rolly?
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 30, 2018, 03:10:50 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 02:37:56 PM
Fulham targeting APOEL Nicosia's Hungarian international winger Roland Sallai
The new Zoltan Gera? From Zolly to Rolly?
Or when Joka met Sally
SALLAICIOUS
We all know the delay in our signing announcements is due to the Media team deciding on the appropriate word play.
If we don't go with MAWESOME I'll be quite sad.
The Hungarian pronunciation of Sallai's surname is, apparently, "Shall I", which if he signs for us, could reasonably prompt the nickname "Be mother"
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
If we don't go with MAWESOME I'll be quite sad.
I think they might be needing help with one for Mitrovic. Or, is that supposed to be Fantastic(h)?
BREAKING NEWS
Goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg has agreed a new deal with Everton until the end of June 2020.
Anyone else forget he existed?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
If we don't go with MAWESOME I'll be quite sad.
I think they might be needing help with one for Mitrovic. Or, is that supposed to be Fantastic(h)?
Think they might play it safe and just go for a Mitro's on Fire hashtag and themed announcement video.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 03:31:40 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg has agreed a new deal with Everton until the end of June 2020.
Anyone else forget he existed?
No - as when watching the highlight reel of Schurrle scoring a hat-trick against us, he was in goal for us. Don't know what happened with him, but he seemingly fell off radar ability wise after losing the world cup final.
Would be fascinated to see what happens to players who do go on to lose the final and what happens to their careers? Imagine many don't bounce back.
The Sun linking us with Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax. Left-Back. Only joined Ajax in January, but would supposedly be available for 8mill. Would quite like that one should it come off.
So bored of waiting for news re Mitro and Mawson.
When you know practically everything is done apart from a few formalities such as photos in the gear and tieing up the medical... Schurrle was announced at 10:15pm on the 25th..
Hope they announce one of them at least soon!
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 03:31:40 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg has agreed a new deal with Everton until the end of June 2020.
Anyone else forget he existed?
No - as when watching the highlight reel of Schurrle scoring a hat-trick against us, he was in goal for us. Don't know what happened with him, but he seemingly fell off radar ability wise after losing the world cup final.
Would be fascinated to see what happens to players who do go on to lose the final and what happens to their careers? Imagine many don't bounce back.
That was him? I did not know that, was Burn the number 33 who Schurrle outruns?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
The Sun linking us with Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax. Left-Back. Only joined Ajax in January, but would supposedly be available for 8mill. Would quite like that one should it come off.
When was the article dated? I saw a few rumours of him to us on twitter but only one recently which suggests it was a no go?? - The most recent article looked quite dodgy too. Another to be making his way back from world cup though, which could be why the delay?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
If we don't go with MAWESOME I'll be quite sad.
I think they might be needing help with one for Mitrovic. Or, is that supposed to be Fantastic(h)?
COMMIT....?
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 03:37:54 PM
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 30, 2018, 03:31:40 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg has agreed a new deal with Everton until the end of June 2020.
Anyone else forget he existed?
No - as when watching the highlight reel of Schurrle scoring a hat-trick against us, he was in goal for us. Don't know what happened with him, but he seemingly fell off radar ability wise after losing the world cup final.
Would be fascinated to see what happens to players who do go on to lose the final and what happens to their careers? Imagine many don't bounce back.
That was him? I did not know that, was Burn the number 33 who Schurrle outruns?
Yeah - Burn was shocking.
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 03:38:20 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
The Sun linking us with Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax. Left-Back. Only joined Ajax in January, but would supposedly be available for 8mill. Would quite like that one should it come off.
When was the article dated? I saw a few rumours of him to us on twitter but only one recently which suggests it was a no go?? - The most recent article looked quite dodgy too. Another to be making his way back from world cup though, which could be why the delay?
30th July
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6898022/newcastle-fulham-ajax-world-cup-nicolas-tagliafico-8million-deal/
Quote from: FFC NY on July 30, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
If we don't go with MAWESOME I'll be quite sad.
I think they might be needing help with one for Mitrovic. Or, is that supposed to be Fantastic(h)?
COMMIT....?
Or
COMMITTED...?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: LRCN on July 30, 2018, 01:26:45 PM
he is only just back in training so almost certainly wont be fit enough to start v palace, expect him on the bench tho.
Holy smokes! You're alive! Haven't seen you pop up here or on Twitter in an age. Hope you are well.
hello mate
took myself off twitter as it was getting me in trouble & back on here because i needed a vice for my nervous playoff final energy and a fulham fix on the off season!
trust you are well? good to see a familiar name
According to FoF facebook page, Mitrovich has told one of us he's signed on the dotted line (accompanied by picture). I assume the signature happens once the medical is completed?
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 30, 2018, 04:07:08 PM
According to FoF facebook page, Mitrovich has told one of us he's signed on the dotted line (accompanied by picture). I assume the signature happens once the medical is completed?
Or could be before, subject to the medical. Still positive anyway.
Not gonna lie, I really hate waiting around for transfers to get over the line. Sometimes I wish all of our signings came out of the blue, so that we don't have a nervous couple of days of hoping they don't get poached, fail medical or not agree on terms
Newcastle United and Fulham chasing Nicolas Tagliafico, available for cut-price £8m
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/30/report-newcastle-united-and-fulham-chasing-nicolas-tagliafico-av/
If we do announce Mitrovic today we might just go for "#MitroMonday".
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 04:52:41 PM
If we do announce Mitrovic today we might just go for "#MitroMonday".
If it's tomorrow we could use MITuesday
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 30, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
If we don't go with MAWESOME I'll be quite sad.
I think they might be needing help with one for Mitrovic. Or, is that supposed to be Fantastic(h)?
MITROGLYCERINE
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 04:46:13 PM
Not gonna lie, I really hate waiting around for transfers to get over the line. Sometimes I wish all of our signings came out of the blue, so that we don't have a nervous couple of days of hoping they don't get poached, fail medical or not agree on terms
Yes more healthier for the heart, but I am told that Mitro and Mawson are done and dusted. Eyes 👀 have been dotted Tees have been 🤞 crossed.
But it's that lingering doubt still that wait to see it officialy lit up in Black & White keeps our attention.
#super cali fragilistic expMITROdocious
Why go micro when you can go mitro
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I'm delighted to announce that Aleksandar Mitrovic is back where he belongs at @FulhamFC! We've reached an agreement to bring Mitro home! We've always wanted him on a permanent; I told him that after the final at Wembley, & I'm thrilled to make it official today. Come on Fulham!'
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Welcome home, Aleksandar Mitrović!
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Great news on Mitro now let's get the rest of the squad sorted, we are in such a good position right now and we a few extras we could be near perfect
We need another 4 minimum.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 05:38:45 PM
We need another 4 minimum.
Know you have your rather large ears to the ground. Without intent to have you divulge too much, any of these other rumored interests near to done? Mawson seems as close to an obvious 'yes' as possible. So, I was curious about any other rumored position fillers.
Wow, Mitro on a 5 year contract. Must be the longest we have offered anyone.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 05:38:45 PM
We need another 4 minimum.
And 3 need to be defenders. We've singed only one defender, and it's been our weakest point even from before the start of last season.
Unless we play on playing with 4 wingers every game.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 30, 2018, 05:44:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 05:38:45 PM
We need another 4 minimum.
Know you have your rather large ears to the ground. Without intent to have you divulge too much, any of these other rumored interests near to done? Mawson seems as close to an obvious 'yes' as possible. So, I was curious about any other rumored position fillers.
I'm expecting Mawson to come later today once the Mitro hype has died down, if not relatively early doors tomorrow as both were in London and in and around motspur park back end of last week or over the weekend and just had medicals to do today.
Can anyone else clear up the rough sum though? Can't believe we'd spend £22m rising to £27m? Seems at the very steep end.. considering we apparently didn't want to go to £20m?.. he's 23 yo and obviously plays well in our format - I'd have him down to score goals, although he needs someone to play with or challenge him, or someone else who plays the game differently as having himon his own up front against two CB's for instance could be a huge challenge.
Just wondering, since, in the past, we always obtained signatures at 11 PM deadline day. This year the club has been at work early and often. Will there be a deadline day eve great signing? Lets hope its a left back.
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 05:50:54 PM
Can anyone else clear up the rough sum though? Can't believe we'd spend £22m rising to £27m? Seems at the very steep end.. considering we apparently didn't want to go to £20m?.. he's 23 yo and obviously plays well in our format - I'd have him down to score goals, although he needs someone to play with or challenge him, or someone else who plays the game differently as having himon his own up front against two CB's for instance could be a huge challenge.
As far as I'm aware the club have never said anything about their negotiation so the prices you quote are the result of journalists guess - on the basis of if you don't know - make it up
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 30, 2018, 05:56:31 PM
Just wondering, since, in the past, we always obtained signatures at 11 PM deadline day. This year the club has been at work early and often. Will there be a deadline day eve great signing? Lets hope its a left back.
I thought that, I hope we keep something right up until the last min just keep me tuned to deadline day on sky sports
Do you think it's likely we'd try and use our loan spots for Piazon and Kalas and is that allowed? I appreciate they aren't everyones cup of tea but for squad depth and for good changing room individuals, these two on loan would fit the bill. I also think Kalas could mature into a very decent CB....
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 30, 2018, 05:56:31 PM
Just wondering, since, in the past, we always obtained signatures at 11 PM deadline day. This year the club has been at work early and often. Will there be a deadline day eve great signing? Lets hope its a left back.
I'd hope we get the LB and CB situations resolved as early as possible and maybe get that holding mid from Wolfsburg as a last day surprise. Feel we need to find another big, physical presence to compete with KMac.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
Do you think it's likely we'd try and use our loan spots for Piazon and Kalas and is that allowed? I appreciate they aren't everyones cup of tea but for squad depth and for good changing room individuals, these two on loan would fit the bill. I also think Kalas could mature into a very decent CB....
Schurrle (see what I did there?), we'll see more than just Andre come in on loan, and assuming we sign another two defensive options on permanent deals, having both Piazon and Kalas back on loan would be great depth. I don't see either of them as permanent options given what Chelsea as presumed to want for them (10 million'ish each, I've read).
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
Do you think it's likely we'd try and use our loan spots for Piazon and Kalas and is that allowed? I appreciate they aren't everyones cup of tea but for squad depth and for good changing room individuals, these two on loan would fit the bill. I also think Kalas could mature into a very decent CB....
Only allowed to loan one player from the same PL club, so that won't happen.
Quote from: Stefan The Viking (The Moose) on July 30, 2018, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 30, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
Do you think it's likely we'd try and use our loan spots for Piazon and Kalas and is that allowed? I appreciate they aren't everyones cup of tea but for squad depth and for good changing room individuals, these two on loan would fit the bill. I also think Kalas could mature into a very decent CB....
Only allowed to loan one player from the same PL club, so that won't happen.
Ah gotcha! Thought I'd read previously there was something stopping us doing it
Unless we sign a top centre back in the next week then Kalas would have to be signed to fill the gap in the back four. Problem is Chelsea are going to see are getting desperate and are going to squeeze us hard on any deal.
Right, now to announce Mawson, a LB, RB, versatile winger and another CF..
So that's 5 more players.. 6 if we're being greedy and getting in another top CB on top of Mawson.
I'm excited to have mitrovic back, he did wonders for us and clearly fits our style of play - Newcastle fans are judging him based on hardly getting a look in under Benitez and subsequently not being played in the championship and not scoring too frequently in the Prem, but at 23 and in the right system he has plenty of room to grow into in a 5 year contract, I'd also say our midfield of Shurrle, Seri, Cairney and Sessegnon is better equipped to give him the service he's looking for as proven by the fact he scored for fun with us in the championship..
That said, to temper it, we do need another striker to come in who's got clear and proven quality and offers us something different to Mitro as him on his own up front against Jan Vertonghen and Alderweirweld for example is going to leave us exposed up front and the same goes for defensive pairings of top 6 teams. I have little doubt, although am aware he's not properly tested in the premiership, that he'll score goals, how many though is still to be seen.
I do think long term though, Mitro between now and 28 has a lot of potential to grow into quite the force.
To be honest, I think that if we get a LB, backup striker, starting CDM and Mawson we're set. A RB and second CB or LB depending on how we use MLM and Sess etc would be nice bonuses, I imagine we'll use the loan market for those should we deem them necessary
Rumor has it that Danny Rose is going to Wolves. I think if they can sign him that we should try to up their bid.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
To be honest, I think that if we get a LB, backup striker, starting CDM and Mawson we're set. A RB and second CB or LB depending on how we use MLM and Sess etc would be nice bonuses, I imagine we'll use the loan market for those should we deem them necessary
Yeah agreed, if Mawson deal is over the line like people claim, then for me all we need now is a Left back, CDM and back up striker. I thought Christie was very impressive in the game against Fiorentina and will only improve with more first team games. Anything else, i.e. RW/back up centre back is a bonus, but Cavaleiro and Kalas would fit the bill.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 30, 2018, 05:56:31 PM
Just wondering, since, in the past, we always obtained signatures at 11 PM deadline day. This year the club has been at work early and often. Will there be a deadline day eve great signing? Lets hope its a left back.
I thought that, I hope we keep something right up until the last min just keep me tuned to deadline day on sky sports
I hope the recruitment team dont forget the window shuts at 5pm and not 11pm
Quote from: GJB on July 30, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
To be honest, I think that if we get a LB, backup striker, starting CDM and Mawson we're set. A RB and second CB or LB depending on how we use MLM and Sess etc would be nice bonuses, I imagine we'll use the loan market for those should we deem them necessary
Yeah agreed, if Mawson deal is over the line like people claim, then for me all we need now is a Left back, CDM and back up striker. I thought Christie was very impressive in the game against Fiorentina and will only improve with more first team games. Anything else, i.e. RW/back up centre back is a bonus, but Cavaleiro and Kalas would fit the bill.
I still think we should buy Carlos Bacca as a backup striker. Apparently Milan are really close to signing Higuain and they are looking to offload Bacca. They want just 13.5 million for gim apparently.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 30, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 30, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
To be honest, I think that if we get a LB, backup striker, starting CDM and Mawson we're set. A RB and second CB or LB depending on how we use MLM and Sess etc would be nice bonuses, I imagine we'll use the loan market for those should we deem them necessary
Yeah agreed, if Mawson deal is over the line like people claim, then for me all we need now is a Left back, CDM and back up striker. I thought Christie was very impressive in the game against Fiorentina and will only improve with more first team games. Anything else, i.e. RW/back up centre back is a bonus, but Cavaleiro and Kalas would fit the bill.
I still think we should buy Carlos Bacca as a backup striker. Apparently Milan are really close to signing Higuain and they are looking to offload Bacca. They want just 13.5 million for gim apparently.
The gravy train isn't infinite. I'd say if we are to spend that sort of money we need starters not back ups.
Priority is a LB and CB now
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-fulham-return-with-improved-offer-for-southampton-star
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 30, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 30, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
To be honest, I think that if we get a LB, backup striker, starting CDM and Mawson we're set. A RB and second CB or LB depending on how we use MLM and Sess etc would be nice bonuses, I imagine we'll use the loan market for those should we deem them necessary
Yeah agreed, if Mawson deal is over the line like people claim, then for me all we need now is a Left back, CDM and back up striker. I thought Christie was very impressive in the game against Fiorentina and will only improve with more first team games. Anything else, i.e. RW/back up centre back is a bonus, but Cavaleiro and Kalas would fit the bill.
I still think we should buy Carlos Bacca as a backup striker. Apparently Milan are really close to signing Higuain and they are looking to offload Bacca. They want just 13.5 million for gim apparently.
We should go in with a double swoop for that cb aswell
As for a LB I'd say get Luke shaw from United, mourinho is the biggest knob going and he made him look a fool and I suspect given the chance he would leave
https://twitter.com/Mattytargett/likes
Mawson and Targett. Oh and Slav
Might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think that paying over £10m for Targett makes much sense. He was good in the championship but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the PL bearing in mind he's third choice for a distinctly average Southampton team and isn't the quickest of full backs either
@DeanJonesBR
Fulham are going to go back in for Matt Targett. He's tried, tested ... and the club are now tempted to just go for it
It'll be somewhere between £12-15m if it happens
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 07:31:59 PM
Might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think that paying over £10m for Targett makes much sense. He was good in the championship but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the PL bearing in mind he's third choice for a distinctly average Southampton team and isn't the quickest of full backs either
Very much a signing to make if we start to worry about signing someone else within the window. I'd be happy with Targett, he doesn't need much embedding in, but there is better out there.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 30, 2018, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 07:31:59 PM
Might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think that paying over £10m for Targett makes much sense. He was good in the championship but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the PL bearing in mind he's third choice for a distinctly average Southampton team and isn't the quickest of full backs either
Very much a signing to make if we start to worry about signing someone else within the window. I'd be happy with Targett, he doesn't need much embedding in, but there is better out there.
There is but he's young still and I think he'll improve. 12/14 mill max though
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 30, 2018, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 30, 2018, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 07:31:59 PM
Might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think that paying over £10m for Targett makes much sense. He was good in the championship but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the PL bearing in mind he's third choice for a distinctly average Southampton team and isn't the quickest of full backs either
Very much a signing to make if we start to worry about signing someone else within the window. I'd be happy with Targett, he doesn't need much embedding in, but there is better out there.
There is but he's young still and I think he'll improve. 12/14 mill max though
Think potential to be smoke and mirrors to go under the radar for someone else that others may be interested in
https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/30/fulham-reportedly-submit-12m-bid-for-matt-targett/
Quote from: JoelH5 on July 30, 2018, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 30, 2018, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 07:31:59 PM
Might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think that paying over £10m for Targett makes much sense. He was good in the championship but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the PL bearing in mind he's third choice for a distinctly average Southampton team and isn't the quickest of full backs either
Very much a signing to make if we start to worry about signing someone else within the window. I'd be happy with Targett, he doesn't need much embedding in, but there is better out there.
There is but he's young still and I think he'll improve. 12/14 mill max though
Defensively he's okay and will get better, but he's just not that quick and I have a worry that he'll get found out in the prem as almost every winger is lightning quick, whereas Joe Bryan is also young and promising but has the advantage of being far more mobile, and half the price
Mawson fee agreed Sky Reporting
FULHAM AGREE MAWSON FEE
Fulham and Swansea have agree fee for defender Alfie Mawson, according to Sky sources.
Mawson will take a medical tomorrow and discuss personal terms with the newly-promoted Premier League club.
Sky Sports News understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
Sky Sports News
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Sky sources - @SwansOfficial have accepted @FulhamFC's bid in the region of £20m for defender Alfie Mawson #ssn
Mawson is so perfect for how we want to play. Plus is young and will only improve
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
FULHAM AGREE MAWSON FEE
Fulham and Swansea have agree fee for defender Alfie Mawson, according to Sky sources.
Mawson will take a medical tomorrow and discuss personal terms with the newly-promoted Premier League club.
Sky Sports News understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
If that has only just been agreed others on here said that both have been done and dusted already then what had Alfie Mawson done by Friday evening when others said it was all done and dusted!?
Brentfodder have signed a CB for £18 mil from Reims from League 2 Never heard of him. Mawson for £20 mil is a steal.
Sky Sports News
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Sky sources: Mawson to have a medical at Fulham and discuss personal terms on Tuesday #ssn
Quote from: grandad on July 30, 2018, 07:58:39 PM
Brentfodder have signed a CB for £18 mil from Reims from League 2 Never heard of him. Mawson for £20 mil is a steal.
£1.8 million.
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
FULHAM AGREE MAWSON FEE
Fulham and Swansea have agree fee for defender Alfie Mawson, according to Sky sources.
Mawson will take a medical tomorrow and discuss personal terms with the newly-promoted Premier League club.
Sky Sports News understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
If that has only just been agreed others on here said that both have been done and dusted already then what had Alfie Mawson done by Friday evening when others said it was all done and dusted!?
A lot of deals are completed and medicals done, well before they are announced. The fans are the last to find out for sure until the club announces it. The media are the second to last to find out.
It could be made public more than 24 hours after pen has been put to paper.
Clubs tend to have a protocol which is understanding.
There is more to post signing than meets the eye.
Now let's move on to the next newcomer and worry about him.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
FULHAM AGREE MAWSON FEE
Fulham and Swansea have agree fee for defender Alfie Mawson, according to Sky sources.
Mawson will take a medical tomorrow and discuss personal terms with the newly-promoted Premier League club.
Sky Sports News understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
If that has only just been agreed others on here said that both have been done and dusted already then what had Alfie Mawson done by Friday evening when others said it was all done and dusted!?
A lot of deals are completed and medicals done, well before they are announced. The fans are the last to find out for sure until the club announces it. The media are the second to last to find out.
It could be made public more than 24 hours after pen has been put to paper.
Clubs tend to have a protocol which is understanding.
There is more to post signing than meets the eye.
Now let's move on to the next newcomer and worry about him.
I remember reading an interview from an agent and he was saying that deals even deadline day are already a week or two in conversation and agreed weeks before, clubs will pick and choose to release the information for a variety of reasons, new signing, keep fans happy...
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: Ordar on July 30, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
FULHAM AGREE MAWSON FEE
Fulham and Swansea have agree fee for defender Alfie Mawson, according to Sky sources.
Mawson will take a medical tomorrow and discuss personal terms with the newly-promoted Premier League club.
Sky Sports News understand the fee to be in the region of £20m.
If that has only just been agreed others on here said that both have been done and dusted already then what had Alfie Mawson done by Friday evening when others said it was all done and dusted!?
A lot of deals are completed and medicals done, well before they are announced. The fans are the last to find out for sure until the club announces it. The media are the second to last to find out.
It could be made public more than 24 hours after pen has been put to paper.
Clubs tend to have a protocol which is understanding.
There is more to post signing than meets the eye.
Now let's move on to the next newcomer and worry about him.
I remember reading an interview from an agent and he was saying that deals even deadline day are already a week or two in conversation and agreed weeks before, clubs will pick and choose to release the information for a variety of reasons, new signing, keep fans happy...
Precisely
Quote from: ffcannom on July 30, 2018, 04:46:54 PM
Newcastle United and Fulham chasing Nicolas Tagliafico, available for cut-price £8m
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/30/report-newcastle-united-and-fulham-chasing-nicolas-tagliafico-av/
I asked a friend who is a Ajax season ticket holder about Tagliafico.
He told me he was good but not world class and prone to making silly errors as he did in the world cup.
Ajax dont need to sell but if we came in with a big offer they wouldn't be against selling him.
What a terrific squad we're building and with nearly 2 weeks in hand, there must be zero chance of not securing one of the myriad left backs we've been working on.
Once that's done, I think we have a strong first eleven to compete in this league but, as we all know, injuries, suspensions and loss of form, mean we will need a bigger squad than we currently have. Having said that, if our stand-ins are the likes of AK47, Floyd, Neeskens, Denis and Betts, then not a bad starting point.
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Mawson will make an ideal Captain for us, time for Cairney to hand over the armband and have the responsibility lifted off him.
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
Mawson will make an ideal Captain for us, time for Cairney to hand over the armband and have the responsibility lifted off him.
yep he's a shocking captain. Would much prefer he lead us into a relegation like the amazing captain Parker did, over winning promotion any day of the week.
Alfie Mawson is a classic English Warrior, a natural leader and talisman.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 08:38:49 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
Mawson will make an ideal Captain for us, time for Cairney to hand over the armband and have the responsibility lifted off him.
yep he's a shocking captain. Would much prefer he lead us into a relegation like the amazing captain Parker did, over winning promotion any day of the week.
this made me laugh.... i think Parker set the BPL season record for shortest average length of pass attempted.
Quote from: JOND999 on July 30, 2018, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 08:38:49 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
Mawson will make an ideal Captain for us, time for Cairney to hand over the armband and have the responsibility lifted off him.
yep he's a shocking captain. Would much prefer he lead us into a relegation like the amazing captain Parker did, over winning promotion any day of the week.
this made me laugh.... i think Parker set the BPL season record for shortest average length of pass attempted.
Must be second shortest after Etuhu, that man never passed more than about 5 feet!
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Great window so far!
4 more needed for me
Kalas , Mawson , Targett & J Ayew
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 30, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: JOND999 on July 30, 2018, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 08:38:49 PM
Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
Mawson will make an ideal Captain for us, time for Cairney to hand over the armband and have the responsibility lifted off him.
yep he's a shocking captain. Would much prefer he lead us into a relegation like the amazing captain Parker did, over winning promotion any day of the week.
this made me laugh.... i think Parker set the BPL season record for shortest average length of pass attempted.
Must be second shortest after Etuhu, that man never passed more than about 5 feet!
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those were the days, you could never underestimate dicksons ability to miss place a 5 yard pass.
Quote from: MrFFC on July 30, 2018, 08:51:41 PM
Great window so far!
4 more needed for me
Kalas , Mawson , Targett & J Ayew
I would like another DM aswell to either replace it cover KMac
Honestly Mawson and a LB and I'd be over the moon at the window we've had.
Given how long there is to go and the ambition we've shown however, I'm expecting on top of this another CB, DM, winger and hopefully backup striker (although a couple of these maybe on loan
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 30, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
Honestly Mawson and a LB and I'd be over the moon at the window we've had.
Given how long there is to go and the ambition we've shown however, I'm expecting on top of this another CB, DM, winger and hopefully backup striker (although a couple of these maybe on loan
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For the striker if it was a loan I'd go with llorente, welbeck or ings if they were made surplus to requirements
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 30, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
Honestly Mawson and a LB and I'd be over the moon at the window we've had.
Given how long there is to go and the ambition we've shown however, I'm expecting on top of this another CB, DM, winger and hopefully backup striker (although a couple of these maybe on loan
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For the striker if it was a loan I'd go with llorente, welbeck or ings if they were made surplus to requirements
All great options. Would love to sign Traore and then Schurrle could be striker backup too. Kalas as backup CB, then that DM From Wolfsburg and suddenly we look a real force with depth
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Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
Mawson targett another centre back and CDM needed for me
At centre back would leave us with Ream, Mawson and Odoi which isn't enough.
I'm cdm leaves us kmac with seri that can play there but would e wasted and no obvious youngster coming through.
Still need those four in my opinion
I've said all along on here that after Seri and Le Marchand I wanted 6 new signings. A Keeper (Fabri), a Centre-Back (Mawson), a Left-Back (TBD), a back-up DM (TBD), a RW (Schurrle) and a Striker (Mitrovic). Anyone on top of that is a bonus in my eyes.
If we've got the time and resources signing another Centre-Back on top of Mawson would be my priority. Schurrle can play up-front with AK47 on the right in the eventuality of a Mitrovic injury/loss of form.
Quote from: MrD1879 on July 30, 2018, 09:13:34 PM
Mawson targett another centre back and CDM needed for me
At centre back would leave us with Ream, Mawson and Odoi which isn't enough.
I'm cdm leaves us kmac with seri that can play there but would e wasted and no obvious youngster coming through.
Still need those four in my opinion
And the new guy is a left CB
I'd like Tierney after all the digs from Celtic fans about how we stand no chance!
Just read somewhere that Cardiff will maybe pay more than £15 milion for deeney, apparently warnock's top target.
Quote from: Milo on July 30, 2018, 09:26:21 PM
I'd like Tierney after all the digs from Celtic fans about how we stand no chance!
yes, and then loan him to rangers for the season
Wouldn't be surprised if it's a double deal for Mawson & Ayew
Reuben loftus cheek would be an amazing signing, wants to regular play time, London based and future England star, adds strength, height and my wife thinks he is eye candy so might get me a few more games in peace
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 09:43:03 PM
Reuben loftus cheek would be an amazing signing, wants to regular play time, London based and future England star, adds strength, height and my wife thinks he is eye candy so might get me a few more games in peace
would be expensive. And I've got a feeling Chelsea will want him this season. Roman won't be splashing big bucks as he wants out, so it will be all hands on deck for there current squad
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 09:43:03 PM
Reuben loftus cheek would be an amazing signing, wants to regular play time, London based and future England star, adds strength, height and my wife thinks he is eye candy so might get me a few more games in peace
would be expensive. And I've got a feeling Chelsea will want him this season. Roman won't be splashing big bucks as he wants out, so it will be all hands on deck for there current squad
No doubt he would cost a bob or two but young, English and decent a very good investment and has hinted if he spend they first team football this season he will look elsewhere, even a loan as that seems to be on the cards for C Palace
Destined to play deeper in the Dembele mold....once he does, he'll be amazing.
Mawson is ours. Medical done, Fee agreed. Gone back to Wales to sort some stuff out. Announced tomorrow or Wednesday! 049:gif
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 30, 2018, 09:43:03 PM
Reuben loftus cheek would be an amazing signing, wants to regular play time, London based and future England star, adds strength, height and my wife thinks he is eye candy so might get me a few more games in peace
would be expensive. And I've got a feeling Chelsea will want him this season. Roman won't be splashing big bucks as he wants out, so it will be all hands on deck for there current squad
Think Sarri's already said he's keeping the likes of Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi around. That may well just be because they want a proper "B Team" for the Europa though.
Quote from: APS on July 30, 2018, 10:13:54 PM
Mawson is ours. Medical done, Fee agreed. Gone back to Wales to sort some stuff out. Announced tomorrow or Wednesday! 049:gif
not that I'm doubting you, by why wait till Wednesday if its all done.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: APS on July 30, 2018, 10:13:54 PM
Mawson is ours. Medical done, Fee agreed. Gone back to Wales to sort some stuff out. Announced tomorrow or Wednesday! 049:gif
not that I'm doubting you, by why wait till Wednesday if its all done.
It's been done for hours, the club will wait for the next day ( tomorrow) I expect to anounce it, for photo shoots and the arranging interviews and all the Pantomime that goes along. Its standard procedure most of the time.
It's been done and dusted for hours.
I'm with those who think Targett is solid and would do us a job, but I also think north of 10mil is a lot for solid and you're paying a lot of extra english/intra-PL tax.
Quote from: itombomb on July 30, 2018, 11:00:55 PM
I'm with those who think Targett is solid and would do us a job, but I also think north of 10mil is a lot for solid and you're paying a lot of extra english/intra-PL tax.
if it's between Matt Targett who knows our system of play, and doesn't need to settle in, or the alternative is no orthodox left back, I wouldn't be too worried about having to pay more than you think you should.
We have already done that with Fonte.
Is there any truth in that we are watching some super kid at Villa called Harvey Knibbs?
I've looked on line and he looks like a kid Jokanovic could make fantastic.
I'm in Portugal and heard it from a Villain over here.
Targett being young and English makes that price tag what it is. Good left backs don't grow on trees. He knows the system and has room to grow as a player, I say its worth the risk. And if he can't cut it, then LB becomes the primary position for upgrade during the January window.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 30, 2018, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: APS on July 30, 2018, 10:13:54 PM
Mawson is ours. Medical done, Fee agreed. Gone back to Wales to sort some stuff out. Announced tomorrow or Wednesday! 049:gif
not that I'm doubting you, by why wait till Wednesday if its all done.
It's been done for hours, the club will wait for the next day ( tomorrow) I expect to anounce it, for photo shoots and the arranging interviews and all the Pantomime that goes along. Its standard procedure most of the time.
It's been done and dusted for hours.
How do you know? Cheers
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
Crikey sounds like the club is really going for it... another Wing, DM, LB, AM another defender and another forward if the right person became available on top of Mawson. So another 5-6 signings.. how are we affording this?
The question I'd then ask is who is surplus to requirements? Cisse, Djalo, pains me to say it but perhaps Woodrow?
I think we could get a better LB than Targett. If our business so far is anything to go by. The names Tierney +Tagliafico would both be better options especially if we can get the latter for below Targetts price.
Don't get me wrong I am a big Targett fan and do rate him but just think that these two names we have been linked with are that cut above.
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
Crikey sounds like the club is really going for it... another Wing, DM, LB, AM another defender and another forward if the right person became available on top of Mawson. So another 5-6 signings.. how are we affording this?
The question I'd then ask is who is surplus to requirements? Cisse, Djalo, pains me to say it but perhaps Woodrow?
Yes the club are trying to get Djalo out on loan.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 30, 2018, 11:37:37 PM
I think we could get a better LB than Targett. If our business so far is anything to go by. The names Tierney +Tagliafico would both be better options especially if we can get the latter for below Targetts price.
Don't get me wrong I am a big Targett fan and do rate him but just think that these two names we have been linked with are that cut above.
I take your point, and the club may end up pushing the boat out to acquire one of them.
On the other hand they may feel that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Nevertheless, so far the way that Fulham are carrying out their business, nothing would surprise me.
Very pleased that Jokanovic is keen to get Targett on board. Note the other big names mentioned but for all the reasons cited above, I feel he's the best fit for us at this time.
Reading that there could be others in course is a tad beyond my comprehension - but these are truly surreal times for FFC!
I wouldn't think that Targett would be pleased to come to FFC and then not be in the starting XI if we brought in another LB given he wants first team football.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 11:44:31 PM
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
Crikey sounds like the club is really going for it... another Wing, DM, LB, AM another defender and another forward if the right person became available on top of Mawson. So another 5-6 signings.. how are we affording this?
The question I'd then ask is who is surplus to requirements? Cisse, Djalo, pains me to say it but perhaps Woodrow?
Yes the club are trying to get Djalo out on loan.
Any idea re contracts for sess and jokanovic?
Quote from: General on July 31, 2018, 12:04:39 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 11:44:31 PM
Quote from: General on July 30, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
Crikey sounds like the club is really going for it... another Wing, DM, LB, AM another defender and another forward if the right person became available on top of Mawson. So another 5-6 signings.. how are we affording this?
The question I'd then ask is who is surplus to requirements? Cisse, Djalo, pains me to say it but perhaps Woodrow?
Yes the club are trying to get Djalo out on loan.
Any idea re contracts for sess and jokanovic?
Not so far to date.
Reading that there could be others in course is a tad beyond my comprehension - but these are truly surreal times for FFC!
What, not harf!!
I remember driving down overnight in early eighties from Scotland with my wife a three kids for a holiday and as we approached London, I said there is just one place I must see.
Arriving outside the ground to drink in the atmosphere was surprised to find the players entrance gate open. So myself and the children tip toed into the Courtyard and down the players tunnel (of sorts) and there by the corner flag was the legendary Steve MacGee our groundsman when we were skint trying to clear a drain by the corner flag assisted by the only other member of staff available our managing director who's name escapes me!!
When we explained we had driven 700 miles overnight he very kindly invited us to take some pictures on the pitch.
Take heed Alistair if things don't go well you may have to roll your sleeves up and clear drains.
Glad to see that all the negative nannies and Khan bashers have seen the light and realize that Fulham has ambition.
Its going to be a fun season.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
It is pretty evident we are replacing the 8-9 players that aren't returning on loan or from our first team with vastly superior players, and basically the best the Khan's money can buy. That leaves 3-4 more. A clear recipe for success, and consistent with what the fat tuscan beast has alluded to...
Speaking of which, THANK YOU Woolly for some really good bits of info this window (on behalf of us all).
Targett knows Fulham and fits in, linked so well with Ream and Sess, and is tried and tested as a top player for us, who was so important in us getting promotion.
The club is right to make a big effort to get him.
Quote from: RaySmith on July 31, 2018, 03:06:57 AM
Targett knows Fulham and fits in, linked so well with Ream and Sess, and is tried and tested as a top player for us, who was so important in us getting promotion.
The club is right to make a big effort to get him.
I'd really prefer someone better than Targett, especially if the price is now 12m. If I'm a Prem opponent and I'm looking at our left flank of Sess, Target and Ream/MLM, I know which side of the field I'm attacking. Feels very lightweight defensively for this league.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 30, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
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Quote from: Riversider on July 30, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
Mawson will make an ideal Captain for us, time for Cairney to hand over the armband and have the responsibility lifted off him.
yep he's a shocking captain. Would much prefer he lead us into a relegation like the amazing captain Parker did, over winning promotion any day of the week.
this made me laugh.... i think Parker set the BPL season record for shortest average length of pass attempted.
Must be second shortest after Etuhu, that man never passed more than about 5 feet!
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Yes but Etuhu always found Murphy.
That was his job after winning a crunching tackle.
Great player for us.
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Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 31, 2018, 01:39:50 AM
Glad to see that all the negative nannies and Khan bashers have seen the light and realize that Fulham has ambition.
Its going to be a fun season.
At the start of this window, back about 100 pages on this thread, I said that after Khan's comments in May about "ambition" I both hoped and expected we'd spend this kind of money. At the time that was probably perceived as Khan-bashing by some, who'd have said we should just be grateful to have been promoted or something like that. Clearly it was not Khan bashing but reasonable, well-calculated expectation. This is after all what he should have done 4 yrs ago but better late than never. With hindsight for the last couple of seasons, like this one, he has been investing as much as FFP will let him. Well done to him. It's great to have full confidence in the chairman again, for the first time since about 2011.
Your expectations were way off if you realistically thought that this could've been achieved 4 years ago.
The club was a mess from head to toe. A rebuild needed to happen off the pitch before anything major on it.
I think people, maybe even including myself have thought we could upgrade Targett as he dropped off a bit towards the end of his loan. I am now pretty convinced that was because he was playing with an injury, which he discussed on Fulham Focus with Dannyboi. If we were to sign Targett we would have a very Tight back 4, Christie, Mawson, Ream, Targett all English speaking, maybe not the most talented but capable of playing as a unit Roy style. In the harder games, maybe a 2 defensive midfield shield in front of them, otherwise the normally reliable KMac and I think we will be fine.
I tend to agree with Denver Fulham we can do better than Targett if the figures being banded around are accurate.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on July 31, 2018, 08:34:27 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 31, 2018, 01:39:50 AM
Glad to see that all the negative nannies and Khan bashers have seen the light and realize that Fulham has ambition.
Its going to be a fun season.
At the start of this window, back about 100 pages on this thread, I said that after Khan's comments in May about "ambition" I both hoped and expected we'd spend this kind of money. At the time that was probably perceived as Khan-bashing by some, who'd have said we should just be grateful to have been promoted or something like that. Clearly it was not Khan bashing but reasonable, well-calculated expectation. This is after all what he should have done 4 yrs ago but better late than never. With hindsight for the last couple of seasons, like this one, he has been investing as much as FFP will let him. Well done to him. It's great to have full confidence in the chairman again, for the first time since about 2011.
Your expectations were way off if you realistically thought that this could've been achieved 4 years ago.
The club was a mess from head to toe. A rebuild needed to happen off the pitch before anything major on it.
My sentiments exactly.Some will have to start on something else to get their Click Bait
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
With hindsight for the last couple of seasons, like this one, he has been investing as much as FFP will let him. Well done to him. It's great to have full confidence in the chairman again, for the first time since about 2011.
@statto - how do the players we've brought stack up against your expectations ?
I read somewhere (I cannot find the quote) that SK wanted to compete and not just survive in the PL - are we likely to be doing that?
Quote from: The Rock on July 31, 2018, 01:45:31 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 30, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
The Jigsaw is coming together nicely, for me after Alfie Mawson is announced officially, there are four more pieces missing, to ensure our squad can compete over the season.
Can you drop any spoilers, Woolly?
Well After Alfie Mawson is confirmed officially.
If I had to hazard a guess, going by intuition and suspicion.
Although I am sure most people would be more than in agreement.
(1). A left back and (2). a defensive midfielder (3) a winger (4) an attacking midfielder (5) another defender. (6). Not forgetting if the right player became available, another forward.
4 or 5 players at least.
If you want me to guess again, I would say that Matt Target could be one of the next in as Fulham have returned and improved their offer 12m. So we seem to be determined to get our man.
It is pretty evident we are replacing the 8-9 players that aren't returning on loan or from our first team with vastly superior players, and basically the best the Khan's money can buy. That leaves 3-4 more. A clear recipe for success, and consistent with what the fat tuscan beast has alluded to...
Speaking of which, THANK YOU Woolly for some really good bits of info this window (on behalf of us all).
I try to do my best, maybe not always right, but thanks.
In Targett's defense to being lightweight, the guy looks like hes worked hard this summer to buff up a bit. Likely realised that the next logical step for him is to be better physically. Good player, right attitude and one that can grow. It's all well and good asking for better but names floated like Tierney need to realise he's £25m+ and really unlikely.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:12 AM
In Targett's defense to being lightweight, the guy looks like hes worked hard this summer to buff up a bit. Likely realised that the next logical step for him is to be better physically. Good player, right attitude and one that can grow. It's all well and good asking for better but names floated like Tierney need to realise he's £25m+ and really unlikely.
What is the point in Football whispers? Still No Mawson despite sky sports saying a fee agreed...
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:12 AM
In Targett's defense to being lightweight, the guy looks like hes worked hard this summer to buff up a bit. Likely realised that the next logical step for him is to be better physically. Good player, right attitude and one that can grow. It's all well and good asking for better but names floated like Tierney need to realise he's £25m+ and really unlikely.
if we sign Targett I will be delighted as he understands and has a partnership with sess and ream so no bedding in needed.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 31, 2018, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:12 AM
In Targett's defense to being lightweight, the guy looks like hes worked hard this summer to buff up a bit. Likely realised that the next logical step for him is to be better physically. Good player, right attitude and one that can grow. It's all well and good asking for better but names floated like Tierney need to realise he's £25m+ and really unlikely.
if we sign Targett I will be delighted as he understands and has a partnership with sess and ream so no bedding in needed.
This.
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 31, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
I tend to agree with Denver Fulham we can do better than Targett if the figures being banded around are accurate.
Who would you suggest that is available and that we've heard of?
09:53
BREAKING NEWS
Sky sources: Swansea defender Alfie Mawson is currently having a medical at Fulham
MORE ON MAWSON
Fulham appear to have beaten competition from fellow Premier League sides Burnley and West Ham for Mawson's signature.
The London side will pay £15m up-front for the centre-half, with another £5m potentially due in add-ons.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 31, 2018, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 31, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
I tend to agree with Denver Fulham we can do better than Targett if the figures being banded around are accurate.
Who would you suggest that is available and that we've heard of?
Joe Bryan, Nicolas Tagliafico, Marvin Plattenhardt, Ludwig Augustinsson, Ferland Mendy, Juan Bernat (Bayern have transfer listed him allegedly) are all realistic or should be optimistic targets
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 31, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 31, 2018, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 31, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
I tend to agree with Denver Fulham we can do better than Targett if the figures being banded around are accurate.
Who would you suggest that is available and that we've heard of?
Joe Bryan, Nicolas Tagliafico, Marvin Plattenhardt, Ludwig Augustinsson, Ferland Mendy, Juan Bernat (Bayern have transfer listed him allegedly) are all realistic or should be optimistic targets
Bristol just rejected a £3m bid for Bryan
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:12:14 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 31, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 31, 2018, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: JimmyConway on July 31, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
I tend to agree with Denver Fulham we can do better than Targett if the figures being banded around are accurate.
Who would you suggest that is available and that we've heard of?
Joe Bryan, Nicolas Tagliafico, Marvin Plattenhardt, Ludwig Augustinsson, Ferland Mendy, Juan Bernat (Bayern have transfer listed him allegedly) are all realistic or should be optimistic targets
Bristol just rejected a £3m bid for Bryan
They want £6m for him, he's in the last year of his contract.
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Quote from: hovewhite on July 31, 2018, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:12 AM
If we sign Targett I will be delighted as he understands and has a partnership with sess and ream so no bedding in needed.
As you clearly express the ability of Targett to build good understandings with his team mates in so short a time makes him a highly desirable purchase which a more expensive signing may not, for any number of reasons, achieve. Players who fit in are priceless. Targett's weaknesses and where he is sometimes caught out can be coached out of his system by improving his physical and mental strengths.
I would be very happy to see him recruited.
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
There's no way you'd sign Mussachio as a backup CB, you'd have to start him alongside Mawson which would be a good combo but I'm not sure the club would want to drop £30m like that, although with the way things have gone this summer you never know!
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 31, 2018, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
There's no way you'd sign Mussachio as a backup CB, you'd have to start him alongside Mawson which would be a good combo but I'm not sure the club would want to drop £30m like that, although with the way things have gone this summer you never know!
Yeah, but I didn't mean he would necessarily be the backup, just that we would have enough cb's on our books.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Early morning medical = announced this evening?
I'd really like to see Targett back. BUT, I still think its not about the money for Saints. Its sorting Bertrand situation out and whether they want Targett to replace or understudy. We'll see. Targett in my opinion, is more than capable of being a EPL full back.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Ah. Thanks for the correction. I need to pay more attention when skim reading posts!
These are pretty exciting times. All seems a bit surreal to be dropping this amount of money on quality young players instead of picking up past it players as was our strategy before relegation. Cant ask much more of the Khans.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
If that is too expensive would you consider Abel Hernandez (free+good enough for a backup) , Diego Reyes(cb, free, 25, Mexico international) and Boaz Myhill(free, premier league experience+good enough for a 3rd choice keeper, could teach some things to our younger keepers). They would all be free and we could spend more money on starting lb.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
If that is too expensive would you consider Abel Hernandez (free+good enough for a backup) , Diego Reyes(cb, free, 25, Mexico international) and Boaz Myhill(free, premier league experience+good enough for a 3rd choice keeper, could teach some things to our younger keepers). They would all be free and we could spend more money on starting lb.
Is that the Hernandez from Hull, same one that big clubs were sniffing around season before last?
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fulham-finalising-20m-alfie-mawson-transfer-before-permanent-move-for-matt-targett-a3900181.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:46:05 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
If that is too expensive would you consider Abel Hernandez (free+good enough for a backup) , Diego Reyes(cb, free, 25, Mexico international) and Boaz Myhill(free, premier league experience+good enough for a 3rd choice keeper, could teach some things to our younger keepers). They would all be free and we could spend more money on starting lb.
Is that the Hernandez from Hull, same one that big clubs were sniffing around season before last?
Yes, he is now a free agent.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Thank you for this.
So the claim, yesterday evening, (on the back of someone else's mistaken belief that Mawson had already completed his medical) that it (Mawson's transfer) had been 'done and dusted for hours' was, as I thought, just a guess - nothing more.
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:46:05 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
A crazy idea popped in my mind. Why don't we offer about 30 milion to ac milan for musacchio, bacca and gabriel. That way we would have backups for cb, st and 3rd choice keeper. I don't know how much they value musacchio, but they want 13.5 million for bacca+let's say 15 million for mussachio and 1.5 million for the keeper. Thoughts?
If that is too expensive would you consider Abel Hernandez (free+good enough for a backup) , Diego Reyes(cb, free, 25, Mexico international) and Boaz Myhill(free, premier league experience+good enough for a 3rd choice keeper, could teach some things to our younger keepers). They would all be free and we could spend more money on starting lb.
Is that the Hernandez from Hull, same one that big clubs were sniffing around season before last?
He's got a glass knee and allegedly wants £100k a week which is why he's a free agent
Quote from: lomotd on July 31, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Early morning medical = announced this evening?
Assuming no problems with the medical ,before that I'd hope. Personal terms were already agreed, probably just need to finalise a few bits
Re the Standard article... It says Southampton want 10m for Targett...
I like Targett but that is definitely 5m too much for him.
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Thank you for this.
So the claim, yesterday evening, (on the back of someone else's mistaken belief that Mawson had already completed his medical) that it (Mawson's transfer) had been 'done and dusted for hours' was, as I thought, just a guess - nothing more.
looking for an argument for no reason. just let it go. if you dont believe someone, dont. no need to start throwing digs is there
What time Mawson gets announced today will probably depend on how long it takes the people behind Fulham's twitter to make his welcome to the club video haha
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:55:32 AM
Re the Standard article... It says Southampton want 10m for Targett...
I like Targett but that is definitely 5m too much for him.
With current prices the way they are he is worth well in excess of 5m.
Quote from: the nutflush on July 31, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:55:32 AM
Re the Standard article... It says Southampton want 10m for Targett...
I like Targett but that is definitely 5m too much for him.
With current prices the way they are he is worth well in excess of 5m.
I agree. But what I was saying is that I dont think he is worth more than 10m
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:55:32 AM
Re the Standard article... It says Southampton want 10m for Targett...
I like Targett but that is definitely 5m too much for him.
It actually says that Southampton want £15m for him and that none of Fulham's offers have exceeded £10m yet.
"Southampton want £15m for Targett but Fulham are yet to increase their offer past £10m and the two clubs are still £5m apart in respective valuations."
Quote from: twang on July 31, 2018, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:55:32 AM
Re the Standard article... It says Southampton want 10m for Targett...
I like Targett but that is definitely 5m too much for him.
It actually says that Southampton want £15m for him and that none of Fulham's offers have exceeded £10m yet.
"Southampton want £15m for Targett but Fulham are yet to increase their offer past £10m and the two clubs are still £5m apart in respective valuations."
15m is taking the PI55 a bit though.
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Thank you for this.
So the claim, yesterday evening, (on the back of someone else's mistaken belief that Mawson had already completed his medical) that it (Mawson's transfer) had been 'done and dusted for hours' was, as I thought, just a guess - nothing more.
looking for an argument for no reason. just let it go. if you dont believe someone, dont. no need to start throwing digs is there
Surely he is as entitled to post his opinion every bit as much as you or those who claim knowledge which is nothing of the sort by my understanding of the word.
I do not want to seem too harsh but if it irks you, perhaps you should just let it go. Hillingdon's posts have been a breath of fresh air, displaying as they do opinions based on fact with no overblown forecasts or waffly excuses why something has not happened on a particular day.
Fulham and Besiktas are in for Genoa forward Lapadula according to tuttomercatoweb. Price said to be around €15 million.
Probably nothing, but nice to break up the monotony of the rumours for the same three people we've had the last couple of days.
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Thank you for this.
So the claim, yesterday evening, (on the back of someone else's mistaken belief that Mawson had already completed his medical) that it (Mawson's transfer) had been 'done and dusted for hours' was, as I thought, just a guess - nothing more.
looking for an argument for no reason. just let it go. if you dont believe someone, dont. no need to start throwing digs is there
I understand your view. Sorry I'm not as 'laissez-faire' with it as you are.
After seeing post after post over the past couple of weeks, my patience with the pretence ran out. In my own small way, however, I helped to ease my annoyance.
Judge me more harshly than he who is misleading others if you must, but that's how it is.
https://t.co/qAGilCzoJk?amp=1
Quote from: Tabby on July 31, 2018, 11:35:25 AM
Fulham and Besiktas are in for Genoa forward Lapadula according to tuttomercatoweb. Price said to be around €15 million.
Probably nothing, but nice to break up the monotony of the rumours for the same three people we've had the last couple of days.
Well he's the right age. A lot of the players we've been linked with have been around the 27/28 mark.
Edit: Having done some youtube research, can see some truth in this one. His highlights reel is a carbon copy of Mitro's. Drops deep often for the ball, shows strength to hold it up, lays it off. Also works hard to run the channels and track back. Has scored some crackers too.
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Thank you for this.
So the claim, yesterday evening, (on the back of someone else's mistaken belief that Mawson had already completed his medical) that it (Mawson's transfer) had been 'done and dusted for hours' was, as I thought, just a guess - nothing more.
looking for an argument for no reason. just let it go. if you dont believe someone, dont. no need to start throwing digs is there
I understand your view. Sorry I'm not as 'laissez-faire' with it as you are.
After seeing post after post over the past couple of weeks, my patience with the pretence ran out. In my own small way, however, I helped to ease my annoyance.
Judge me more harshly than he who is misleading others if you must, but that's how it is.
have Wooly and Hillingdon not been bang on with most things? could it not be that sky are less in the know and just assuming things so they can report something?
i just dont get people digging others as soon as another rumour goes against information.
im not getting into a row over it so apologies for replying to you
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 31, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
I think people, maybe even including myself have thought we could upgrade Targett as he dropped off a bit towards the end of his loan. I am now pretty convinced that was because he was playing with an injury, which he discussed on Fulham Focus with Dannyboi. If we were to sign Targett we would have a very Tight back 4, Christie, Mawson, Ream, Targett all English speaking, maybe not the most talented but capable of playing as a unit Roy style. In the harder games, maybe a 2 defensive midfield shield in front of them, otherwise the normally reliable KMac and I think we will be fine.
Agreed.
Would Aaron Cresswell be considered as a viable LB option?
Had a lot of potential back when he left Ipswich but seems to have been pushed to the bottom of the pile a little with West Ham's recent business.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on July 31, 2018, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 31, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
I think people, maybe even including myself have thought we could upgrade Targett as he dropped off a bit towards the end of his loan. I am now pretty convinced that was because he was playing with an injury, which he discussed on Fulham Focus with Dannyboi. If we were to sign Targett we would have a very Tight back 4, Christie, Mawson, Ream, Targett all English speaking, maybe not the most talented but capable of playing as a unit Roy style. In the harder games, maybe a 2 defensive midfield shield in front of them, otherwise the normally reliable KMac and I think we will be fine.
Agreed.
Yes he was miles away from full fitness in the playoffs. First touch, engine, bravery, fits with our system, there's a lot to like about this lad and I hope we prise him away.
MEYER TO PALACE?
The Guardian are reporting German midfielder Max Meyer could be on his way to Crystal Palace ahead of the new season.
Wow that would be an amazing signing for them
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: Arthur on July 31, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 31, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: jelmo on July 31, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
I thought Mawson was in Swansea after completing his medical yesterday!???
Nope he was in Swansea yesterday, had a medical booked in at MP 9am this morning
Thank you for this.
So the claim, yesterday evening, (on the back of someone else's mistaken belief that Mawson had already completed his medical) that it (Mawson's transfer) had been 'done and dusted for hours' was, as I thought, just a guess - nothing more.
looking for an argument for no reason. just let it go. if you dont believe someone, dont. no need to start throwing digs is there
I understand your view. Sorry I'm not as 'laissez-faire' with it as you are.
After seeing post after post over the past couple of weeks, my patience with the pretence ran out. In my own small way, however, I helped to ease my annoyance.
Judge me more harshly than he who is misleading others if you must, but that's how it is.
have Wooly and Hillingdon not been bang on with most things? could it not be that sky are less in the know and just assuming things so they can report something?
i just dont get people digging others as soon as another rumour goes against information.
im not getting into a row over it so apologies for replying to you
Of the two you mention, Hillingdon has indeed been bang on and I have not seen anyone suggest otherwise.
Quote from: Ordar on July 31, 2018, 12:11:24 PM
MEYER TO PALACE?
The Guardian are reporting German midfielder Max Meyer could be on his way to Crystal Palace ahead of the new season.
Wow that would be an amazing signing for them
Think there was an article not that long ago saying he want something like 250k a week in wages and Arsenal where looking but put off by his wage demands
Southampton have rejected second bid from Fulham for defender Matt Targett. Second bid is worth more than £10m.
Southampton allegedly rejected the second bid for Targett which is in excess of £10m according to sky. At this point I'd give up on him and go for a different option, be it someone like Ferland Mendy or Juan Bernat instead. Bernat plays for Bayern so is used to a posession based style of football and is transfer listed due to being within the last year of his contract.
Yep I don't want to see us going higher than that for Targett. Tierney please!
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 31, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
Southampton allegedly rejected the second bid for Targett which is in excess of £10m according to sky. At this point I'd give up on him and go for a different option, be it someone like Ferland Mendy or Juan Bernat instead. Bernat plays for Bayern so is used to a posession based style of football and is transfer listed due to being within the last year of his contract.
Could we afford his wages? I reckon we'll have another look at Tagliafico or possibly go back for Zinchenko.
Maybe put in a cheeky bid for Tierney? Hehehe.
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on July 31, 2018, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 31, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
Southampton allegedly rejected the second bid for Targett which is in excess of £10m according to sky. At this point I'd give up on him and go for a different option, be it someone like Ferland Mendy or Juan Bernat instead. Bernat plays for Bayern so is used to a posession based style of football and is transfer listed due to being within the last year of his contract.
Could we afford his wages? I reckon we'll have another look at Tagliafico or possibly go back for Zinchenko.
Maybe put in a cheeky bid for Tierney? Hehehe.
Don't think he's on mega bucks as he's not a nailed on starter owing to how they sometimes play 3 at the back or use David Alaba at LB as he's one of the best in the world. Bayern also don't break the bank with finances so I should imagine that whatever he's earning, we could at least match it.
Still linked with Obiang
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/31/do-report-fulham-make-attractive-offer-for-west-ham-midfielder-p/
Report: Fulham make offer for West Ham midfielder Pedro Obiang
Pedro Obiang has been tipped to return to Serie A with Sampdoria - but could Fulham raid their Premier League and London rivals instead?
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 31, 2018, 01:17:55 PM
Still linked with Obiang
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/31/do-report-fulham-make-attractive-offer-for-west-ham-midfielder-p/
Report: Fulham make offer for West Ham midfielder Pedro Obiang
Pedro Obiang has been tipped to return to Serie A with Sampdoria - but could Fulham raid their Premier League and London rivals instead?
Feels like Obiang may be a second choice if we don't get Herrera or Battaglia?
Fulham make Lapadula move
Fulham have made an approach to sign Genoa striker Gianluca Lapadula, according to reports from Italy this morning.
Despite yesterday's capture of Aleksandar Mitrovic, Slavisa Jokanovic is still seeking to supplement his attacking resources ahead of the start of the new Premier League season. The 28 year-old striker only signed a permanent deal with Genoa this summer after a successful loan spell with the Rossoblu last term, but the Serie A would reportedly be open to selling him on for a profit.
Fulham will face competition for Lapadula's signature, however, with Turkish side Beskitas having also registered their interest in the forward. Lapadula is known as a physically strong and determined striker – once being given the nickname 'Sir William' after William Wallace in recognition of his strength – who can also play as a second striker or on either wing. His versatility would make him an intriguing option for any position in Jokanovic's preferred 4-3-3 system.
Lapadula, who scored eight goals in 27 appearances in two years at AC Milan and helped the Italian giants win the Italian Super Cup, found the net six times in 28 appearances last year for Genoa. Genoa president Enrico Preziosi reportedly values the forward at around £13m and could countenance a deal at that price.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/07/fulham-make-lapadula-move/
Lucas Perez at £7m as a backup striker??
Seems we have joined the "big" boys in being linked with every player whether they are available or not. Just because we have spent a few bob the lazy journos link us with anybody. I am sure the club know who they really want & talks have been on going for weeks. Some targets we have signed, some we have not. The Club are doing a fantastic job, far beyond what many thought was just a dream.
According to Lyall Thomas, the fee for Mawson is just £15m. Tony has pulled a blinder if that's all he's going to cost us.
I thought the lad from Nice we got was a left back.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
I thought the lad from Nice we got was a left back.
center back who can play at left back.
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-set-to-complete-15m-signing-of-mawson/amp
not linked with him at all but i have just read Axel Witsel has an £18m buy out clause....would take him as the DCM although his wages must be ridiculous after being at Zenit when they had the Oil money and now in China
Sky are now copy-pasting the German reports of our interest in Guilavogui.
FULHAM KEEN ON GUILAVOGUI
Fulham are interested in signing Wolfsburg midfielder Josuha Guilavogui, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old defensive-midfielder has two years left on his contract and the Whites are looking for another player of his profile to compete with Kevin McDonald.
Guilavogui is a France international with seven caps, but has not played on the international scene since 2015.
The player joined Wolfsburg from Atletico Madrid on an initial two-year loan deal in 2014 before making the move permanent in 2016.
But he suffered a neck injury in a friendly that summer and did not return to action again until the following November.
Born in France but of Guinean descent, Guilavogui began his career as a youth at Toulon and Saint-Etienne, where he broke into the first-team before signing for Atletico in 2013.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 31, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
I thought the lad from Nice we got was a left back.
I thought he was nice also.
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
not linked with him at all but i have just read Axel Witsel has an £18m buy out clause....would take him as the DCM although his wages must be ridiculous after being at Zenit when they had the Oil money and now in China
He's all but gone to Dortmund.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on July 31, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
not linked with him at all but i have just read Axel Witsel has an £18m buy out clause....would take him as the DCM although his wages must be ridiculous after being at Zenit when they had the Oil money and now in China
He's all but gone to Dortmund.
His wages.....wasn't he one of teh highest paid in the world for a while?
Quote from: twang on July 31, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Sky are now copy-pasting the German reports of our interest in Guilavogui.
FULHAM KEEN ON GUILAVOGUI
Fulham are interested in signing Wolfsburg midfielder Josuha Guilavogui, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old defensive-midfielder has two years left on his contract and the Whites are looking for another player of his profile to compete with Kevin McDonald.
Guilavogui is a France international with seven caps, but has not played on the international scene since 2015.
The player joined Wolfsburg from Atletico Madrid on an initial two-year loan deal in 2014 before making the move permanent in 2016.
But he suffered a neck injury in a friendly that summer and did not return to action again until the following November.
Born in France but of Guinean descent, Guilavogui began his career as a youth at Toulon and Saint-Etienne, where he broke into the first-team before signing for Atletico in 2013.
French international DM sounds promising. Anyone know if he's got any pace? Over the moon it looks like Mawson is coming but him, Ream and Kmac in the middle has a distinct lack of pace in that area (add Targett to that in terms of lack of pace at the back of we get him).
Quote from: Statto on July 31, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: Roberty on July 31, 2018, 08:48:07 AM
@statto - how do the players we've brought stack up against your expectations ?
I read somewhere (I cannot find the quote) that SK wanted to compete and not just survive in the PL - are we likely to be doing that?
Better than I thought mate. Khan said we wouldn't be there just to make up the numbers. He's delivered on that IMO. Do you agree?
If the recruitment continues, I think we could be a serious challenge for most teams, with a better team than I'd expected
Given SK's experience of being in the championship I didn't doubt his word; I'm just surprised that we have been able to compete successfully against more established teams to bring in quality players.
Given how the squad is shaping up SJ can have few complaints and we will get to see if he can be successful in the PL
I'm looking forward to the Palace game - to welcome Roy back and send him home with NIL points
Quote from: twang on July 31, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Sky are now copy-pasting the German reports of our interest in Guilavogui.
FULHAM KEEN ON GUILAVOGUI
Fulham are interested in signing Wolfsburg midfielder Josuha Guilavogui, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old defensive-midfielder has two years left on his contract and the Whites are looking for another player of his profile to compete with Kevin McDonald.
Guilavogui is a France international with seven caps, but has not played on the international scene since 2015.
The player joined Wolfsburg from Atletico Madrid on an initial two-year loan deal in 2014 before making the move permanent in 2016.
But he suffered a neck injury in a friendly that summer and did not return to action again until the following November.
Born in France but of Guinean descent, Guilavogui began his career as a youth at Toulon and Saint-Etienne, where he broke into the first-team before signing for Atletico in 2013.
He is 6ft 2ins tall with considerable pace.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2018, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: twang on July 31, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Sky are now copy-pasting the German reports of our interest in Guilavogui.
FULHAM KEEN ON GUILAVOGUI
Fulham are interested in signing Wolfsburg midfielder Josuha Guilavogui, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old defensive-midfielder has two years left on his contract and the Whites are looking for another player of his profile to compete with Kevin McDonald.
Guilavogui is a France international with seven caps, but has not played on the international scene since 2015.
The player joined Wolfsburg from Atletico Madrid on an initial two-year loan deal in 2014 before making the move permanent in 2016.
But he suffered a neck injury in a friendly that summer and did not return to action again until the following November.
Born in France but of Guinean descent, Guilavogui began his career as a youth at Toulon and Saint-Etienne, where he broke into the first-team before signing for Atletico in 2013.
He is 6ft 2ins tall with considerable pace.
any inside news? ;-)
Must be one helluva medical for poor Alfie. Figured he would have been announced by now.
Still waiting for him to fill the pot for the urine test I heard
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
Must be one helluva medical for poor Alfie. Figured he would have been announced by now.
Could be down to his knee problem. We wouldn't want another Mitroglou
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 31, 2018, 05:55:52 PM
Still waiting for him to fill the pot for the urine test I heard
You are taking the pi55 (or not as the case may be)
Quote from: Tex on July 31, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
Must be one helluva medical for poor Alfie. Figured he would have been announced by now.
Could be down to his knee problem. We wouldn't want another Mitroglou
With the exception of Schurrle we've announced players the day after their medical...
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 31, 2018, 06:20:41 PM
Quote from: Tex on July 31, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
Must be one helluva medical for poor Alfie. Figured he would have been announced by now.
Could be down to his knee problem. We wouldn't want another Mitroglou
With the exception of Schurrle we've announced players the day after their medical...
Arent the medicals done over 2 days
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2018, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: twang on July 31, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Sky are now copy-pasting the German reports of our interest in Guilavogui.
FULHAM KEEN ON GUILAVOGUI
Fulham are interested in signing Wolfsburg midfielder Josuha Guilavogui, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old defensive-midfielder has two years left on his contract and the Whites are looking for another player of his profile to compete with Kevin McDonald.
Guilavogui is a France international with seven caps, but has not played on the international scene since 2015.
The player joined Wolfsburg from Atletico Madrid on an initial two-year loan deal in 2014 before making the move permanent in 2016.
But he suffered a neck injury in a friendly that summer and did not return to action again until the following November.
Born in France but of Guinean descent, Guilavogui began his career as a youth at Toulon and Saint-Etienne, where he broke into the first-team before signing for Atletico in 2013.
He is 6ft 2ins tall with considerable pace.
And he can shoot fireballs out of his...
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
Quote from: mkras99 on July 31, 2018, 07:14:35 PM
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
This was tweeted 8hrs ago
Quote from: mkras99 on July 31, 2018, 07:14:35 PM
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
Who is this guy? I'd love Piazon as an option.
Still no Alfie? Have we extended medicals over 3 days?
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Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
Who is this guy? I'd love Piazon as an option.
Less than 350 followers, freelance sports journo who posts on Twitter about month a month!!l
Hardly setting himself a decent track record!
Read into that what you will.
Hadn't seen this posted on here yet, but from Twitter:
"18 year old Bosnian wonderkid Edis Smajić is on trial with Premier League club Fulham.
Smajić will play 2 matches for the Fulham U23 team.
The Sloboda Tuzla attacking midfielder scored 7 goals last season"
http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Quote from: Sherlock on July 31, 2018, 07:30:07 PM
Hadn't seen this posted on here yet, but from Twitter:
"18 year old Bosnian wonderkid Edis Smajić is on trial with Premier League club Fulham.
Smajić will play 2 matches for the Fulham U23 team.
The Sloboda Tuzla attacking midfielder scored 7 goals last season"
He has been rumored since early in the window. Seems the reports were right then.
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Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
Who is this guy? I'd love Piazon as an option.
Less than 350 followers, freelance sports journo who posts on Twitter about month a month!!l
Hardly setting himself a decent track record!
Read into that what you will.
Darren Witcoop has come up before ... last time he tweeted about Mawson to Fulham four days ago, somebody questioned his credibility because his twitter looks fake, but another sports journalist on twitter who has a blue tick by his name confirmed that the account was real i'm fairly sure
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on July 31, 2018, 07:17:45 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on July 31, 2018, 07:14:35 PM
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
Who is this guy? I'd love Piazon as an option.
Whitcoop was confirmed by either Mr. White Noise or Mr. MJG (I believe) on twitter earlier in the window as a legitimate freelance reporter for several sports publications. Not saying that this makes his reporting any more accurate than anyone else's but he was correct about the transfer rumor at that time. Forget which tho......Seri/Le Marchand, possibly. Didn't strike me as a guy who just throws lots of darts, hoping to get a bullseye every now and again, however.
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Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Mawson to sign for Fulham later today for £20m as previously stated. Matt Targett wanted next and Jokanovic still keen to bring Piazon back #fulhamfc
5:17 AM - 31 Jul 2018 from Barnet, London
Who is this guy? I'd love Piazon as an option.
Less than 350 followers, freelance sports journo who posts on Twitter about month a month!!l
Hardly setting himself a decent track record!
Read into that what you will.
Darren Witcoop has come up before ... last time he tweeted about Mawson to Fulham four days ago, somebody questioned his credibility because his twitter looks fake, but another sports journalist on twitter who has a blue tick by his name confirmed that the account was real i'm fairly sure
Pretty sure the first time he ever tweeted regarding Mawson was friday night when it was common knowledge that he was talking to Fulham. Not criticizing the guy, just stating a fact
Quote from: DevonFFC on July 31, 2018, 05:55:52 PM
Still waiting for him to fill the pot for the urine test I heard
"What from here?"
Dean Jones reporting we were after Smalling before Mawson. Pulled out because same price and wages higher.
Much as I like Smalling, Mawson is younger, cheaper on wages and perfect for our system, so no complaints here
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
You don't like Diego Reyes? He is a right sided cb, Mexico international, pretty young and can cover pretty much all of the defensive positions as well as central midfield positions.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 31, 2018, 07:21:59 PM
Still no Alfie? Have we extended medicals over 3 days?
Crouchie still having his from last Wednesday.😵
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 31, 2018, 08:15:40 PM
Dean Jones reporting we were after Smalling before Mawson. Pulled out because same price and wages higher.
Much as I like Smalling, Mawson is younger, cheaper on wages and perfect for our system, so no complaints here
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Smalling is also terrible on the ball.
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
You don't like Diego Reyes? He is a right sided cb, Mexico international, pretty young and can cover pretty much all of the defensive positions as well as central midfield positions.
Think he'd only join a team to start, unless it was a team in Europe, and after spending 15-20m on Mawson we probably couldn't guarantee that. Plus he's by all accounts had a bidding war going on for him so his wages + signing on fee would be more than what he's worth.
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
You don't like Diego Reyes? He is a right sided cb, Mexico international, pretty young and can cover pretty much all of the defensive positions as well as central midfield positions.
Think he'd only join a team to start, unless it was a team in Europe, and after spending 15-20m on Mawson we probably couldn't guarantee that. Plus he's by all accounts had a bidding war going on for him so his wages + signing on fee would be more than what he's worth.
He may not be a starter, but he would get good amount of minutes as he ca play as cb, rb, lb, dm and even cm. Considering how our squad is still pretty thin, he is an excellent choice as he offers backup for practically six positions.
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
You don't like Diego Reyes? He is a right sided cb, Mexico international, pretty young and can cover pretty much all of the defensive positions as well as central midfield positions.
Think he'd only join a team to start, unless it was a team in Europe, and after spending 15-20m on Mawson we probably couldn't guarantee that. Plus he's by all accounts had a bidding war going on for him so his wages + signing on fee would be more than what he's worth.
He may not be a starter, but he would get good amount of minutes as he ca play as cb, rb, lb, dm and even cm. Considering how our squad is still pretty thin, he is an excellent choice as he offers backup for practically six positions.
But would he be happy to be a utility player for a newly promoted side when teams like Watford, West Ham and Newcastle are supposedly after him as well, in the first two cases could match the financial package we could offer and also offer guaranteed first team football. Especially now Newcastle have got Lejeune out for ages.
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
You don't like Diego Reyes? He is a right sided cb, Mexico international, pretty young and can cover pretty much all of the defensive positions as well as central midfield positions.
Think he'd only join a team to start, unless it was a team in Europe, and after spending 15-20m on Mawson we probably couldn't guarantee that. Plus he's by all accounts had a bidding war going on for him so his wages + signing on fee would be more than what he's worth.
He may not be a starter, but he would get good amount of minutes as he ca play as cb, rb, lb, dm and even cm. Considering how our squad is still pretty thin, he is an excellent choice as he offers backup for practically six positions.
But would he be happy to be a utility player for a newly promoted side when teams like Watford, West Ham and Newcastle are supposedly after him as well, in the first two cases could match the financial package we could offer and also offer guaranteed first team football. Especially now Newcastle have got Lejeune out for ages.
That's the real question, but I just said that I would really like us to buy him.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on July 31, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651 (http://www.squawka.com/en/news/the-best-xi-of-players-in-european-football-still-available-on-a-free-transfer/1050651)
Maybe there is someone worth signing. Imo Boaz Myhill, Jeremy Pied, Diego Reyes and Guillerme Siqueira would be ok. I really, really like Diego Reyes. Also think Boaz Myhill would be nice as a 3rd choice keeper and he could help our younger keepers develop. As for Pied and Siqueira, I think they would be decent squad players.
Myhill re-signed for West Brom today and has apparently had an absolute shocker for them in a friendly tonight against Chasetown. Only Free Agents I'd be tempted to pad out the squad by are Miguel Veloso, Florentin Pogba and Moses Odubajo (if he could get himself fit). Bernard as well, but I think he's about to sign for someone.
You don't like Diego Reyes? He is a right sided cb, Mexico international, pretty young and can cover pretty much all of the defensive positions as well as central midfield positions.
Think he'd only join a team to start, unless it was a team in Europe, and after spending 15-20m on Mawson we probably couldn't guarantee that. Plus he's by all accounts had a bidding war going on for him so his wages + signing on fee would be more than what he's worth.
He may not be a starter, but he would get good amount of minutes as he ca play as cb, rb, lb, dm and even cm. Considering how our squad is still pretty thin, he is an excellent choice as he offers backup for practically six positions.
But would he be happy to be a utility player for a newly promoted side when teams like Watford, West Ham and Newcastle are supposedly after him as well, in the first two cases could match the financial package we could offer and also offer guaranteed first team football. Especially now Newcastle have got Lejeune out for ages.
That's the real question, but I just said that I would really like us to buy him.
I'd like us to sign him. Anyone of his sort of quality is welcome in my book, but in-terms of filling out the squad which was my original point Veloso, Odubajo and F. Pogba would be the only ones I'd go for. Probably wouldn't even go for Pogba because he's left-footed which I didn't realise. Maybe Wollscheid.
Toure, Meyer, Ben Arfa and Bernard would all be top signings imo
Quote from: St. Andrews White on July 31, 2018, 08:15:40 PM
Dean Jones reporting we were after Smalling before Mawson. Pulled out because same price and wages higher.
Much as I like Smalling, Mawson is younger, cheaper on wages and perfect for our system, so no complaints here
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Agree
First three would all be wildcards in my opinion. Toure can barely run, Meyer's got attitude problems (and a very greedy agent), and Ben Arfa's either amazing or non-league standard no in between. Agree with Bernard though, but I'm 99% certain I saw he was signing for someone. Might have been Milan.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 09:01:49 PM
First three would all be wildcards in my opinion. Toure can barely run, Meyer's got attitude problems (and a very greedy agent), and Ben Arfa's either amazing or non-league standard no in between. Agree with Bernard though, but I'm 99% certain I saw he was signing for someone. Might have been Milan.
Yh true, Not sure Toure would fit into Slavisas system. Read Meyers wage demands were mad, and true just read Bernard has signed for Milan. WOuld still take a punt on Ben Arfa though, Slavisa got the best out of Mitro who we were told had similar features of roguness. Hatem was unplayable at Nice as well but couldn't break into a side with Neymar and Mbappe. Could see him ending up at West Ham or Leicester.
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 09:01:49 PM
First three would all be wildcards in my opinion. Toure can barely run, Meyer's got attitude problems (and a very greedy agent), and Ben Arfa's either amazing or non-league standard no in between. Agree with Bernard though, but I'm 99% certain I saw he was signing for someone. Might have been Milan.
Yh true, Not sure Toure would fit into Slavisas system. Read Meyers wage demands were mad, and true just read Bernard has signed for Milan. WOuld still take a punt on Ben Arfa though, Slavisa got the best out of Mitro who we were told had similar features of roguness. Hatem was unplayable at Nice as well but couldn't break into a side with Neymar and Mbappe. Could see him ending up at West Ham or Leicester.
I would gamble with Be Arfa too. Then I would play Seri at dm with Cairney and Ben Arfa in front of him. He also fits our style of play.
From a neutral perspective I'd like to see him at Leicester seeing as Claude Puel is seemingly the only manager who can get the best out of him. Not sure if our system is set up to accommodate a proper luxury player, which Ben Arfa is without a shadow of a doubt.
Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Aye its a controversial one. Splits opinion.
Dean Jones says he expect 2 more after Mawson
So if people could choose which 2, Who would there two be? Tierney and Krychowiak for me (Probably not still in for Krychowiak but im a fan)
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Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Aye its a controversial one. Splits opinion.
Dean Jones says he expect 2 more after Mawson
So if people could choose which 2, Who would there two be? Tierney and Krychowiak for me (Probably not still in for Krychowiak but im a fan)
Krychowiak has already gone out on loan.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 31, 2018, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Aye its a controversial one. Splits opinion.
Dean Jones says he expect 2 more after Mawson
So if people could choose which 2, Who would there two be? Tierney and Krychowiak for me (Probably not still in for Krychowiak but im a fan)
Mawson and a LB.
After that, a CDM (Guilavogui) and maybe another full back.
If we're being very picky, a backup ST too.
After Mawson I will say Targett , Kalas & J Ayew although that's unlikely to happen
If it's only two after Mawson, of the names we've been linked with I'd expect it to be Tagliafico and Guilavogui (unless Southampton change their tune on Targett). If it was any two names that we could (realistically) sign I'd want Plattenhardt as starting LB and then Christian Luyindama as a back-up CB/DM.
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Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Aye its a controversial one. Splits opinion.
Dean Jones says he expect 2 more after Mawson
So if people could choose which 2, Who would there two be? Tierney and Krychowiak for me (Probably not still in for Krychowiak but im a fan)
Krychowiak has already gone out on loan.
Ah, replace him for Guilavogui then.
After Mawson I really hope we sign Herrera, a LB (very happy with Targett, though someone quicker would be amazing), an experienced RB to compete with Christie and a backup Target Man style striker.
Edit: Ah okay two, just Herrera and Targett then.
Quote from: @jolslover on July 31, 2018, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Aye its a controversial one. Splits opinion.
Dean Jones says he expect 2 more after Mawson
So if people could choose which 2, Who would there two be? Tierney and Krychowiak for me (Probably not still in for Krychowiak but im a fan)
Plattenhardt and Herrera
Quote from: @jolslover on July 31, 2018, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
Ben Arfa? No thanks.
Aye its a controversial one. Splits opinion.
Dean Jones says he expect 2 more after Mawson
So if people could choose which 2, Who would there two be? Tierney and Krychowiak for me (Probably not still in for Krychowiak but im a fan)
People with closer ties to the club and who've proven to be ITK and giving information accurately have suggested way more than 2 - 5 seemingly being the average of the 4 to 6 brackets we're looking to bring in.
We seem to be after a RCB, a LB, a DM and a backup striker as a bare minimum with others suggesting we could also be targeting another winger and an AM.
If we did get starting quality players and strong back up in all those positions I'd put this down as the best transfer window I've ever seen.
If only two more signings are expected, then I would hope for Herrera and Targett.
If more than two, I wouldn't mind Josuha Guilavogui and Tomas Kalas.
I'm highly confident we will see more than 4 signings before the end of the window.
We have areas that need strengthening and feel the Khans will not stop if there is still time to get the rights bodies in.
We bring in Mawson we then have 18 senior players. De La Torre & O'Riley are talents but this a huge step up. Ciise & Djalo won't cut it so another 3/4 needed after Mawson in my opinion but I am very impressed with the work we doing so far
Just don't think Ben Arfa has what it takes to be next level/EPL quality. Goes missing way too often, literally never tracks back and isn't the type of luxery player we'd need. We sign him tomorrow i'll support him obviously and hopes Slav can transform him but he just doesnt cut it for me
One of the most exciting players I saw against us last season was Adama Traore from Middlesborough.
Perhaps a bit like a right-sided Seri and he knew when and how to 'track back"
I'd love Joka & Co to get their "hands on him" and he's only 23.
Sadly I think Leeds and some others are sniffing around him.
No idea of his temperament though and how his 'team spirit" is
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on July 31, 2018, 10:32:31 PM
One of the most exciting players I saw against us last season was Adama Traore from Middlesborough.
Perhaps a bit like a right-sided Seri and he knew when and how to 'track back"
I'd love Joka & Co to get their "hands on him" and he's only 23.
Sadly I think Leeds and some others are sniffing around him.
No idea of his temperament though and how his 'team spirit" is
I believe traore has a £18m release clause so cannot see lees spending that, wolves were being reported as interested but he can't speak Portuguese
Sky bet have taken Alfie Mawson off the transfer bets so I would say that is very much done and it is a case of the club holding back the announcement so spread them through the week to drip feed the fans
I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
He has the X Factor, a very exciting player with pace to die for.
The biggest question mark is his end product.
But then I would have thought that a good coach would bring out the best in him, something that would appeal to Slavisa I would imagine.
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Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
He has the X Factor, a very exciting player with pace to die for.
The biggest question mark is his end product.
But then I would have thought that a good coach would bring out the best in him, something that would appeal to Slavisa I would imagine.
5 Goals, 10 Assists for Boro last season isn't something to sniff at (especially when Monk didn't play him for the first month or so). Pulis has started developing him, and given the way players like AK47, Cairney, Ream, Sessegnon etc. have come on under Jokanovic I'd think he could continue it. He's a genuinely frightening player for the other team. Would back him to be the fastest player on the planet.
But for 18m, I can't see us spending that much on him.
My mate who's a massive Boro fan said Traore's end product was not overly great considering how good his build up play is and he performed best when he had Pulis shouting at him from the touchline right next to his wing - even said at one point Pulis switched him from one wing to another at half time so he could continue giving advice from the touchline. He does have blistering pace and age on his side, but I'm not sure that's worth £18 million and he's also not premier league proven - surely people would rather the money's spent on a back-up striker to Mitro?
We also have Kamara who is very similar in style to Traore, I would rather give him the chance to improve and save the money
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I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
He has the X Factor, a very exciting player with pace to die for.
The biggest question mark is his end product.
But then I would have thought that a good coach would bring out the best in him, something that would appeal to Slavisa I would imagine.
5 Goals, 10 Assists for Boro last season isn't something to sniff at (especially when Monk didn't play him for the first month or so). Pulis has started developing him, and given the way players like AK47, Cairney, Ream, Sessegnon etc. have come on under Jokanovic I'd think he could continue it. He's a genuinely frightening player for the other team. Would back him to be the fastest player on the planet.
But for 18m, I can't see us spending that much on him.
please correct me if i/my online source is wrong, but are they not the only 5 goals he has scored for Boro in 60 odd appearances since joining them in 2016? I'd rather wait a season and see if Pulis can carry on getting the best out of him before we throw that much cash at him, think we have bigger priorities
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2018, 10:57:02 PM
My mate who's a massive Boro fan said Traore's end product was not overly great considering how good his build up play is and he performed best when he had Pulis shouting at him from the touchline right next to his wing - even said at one point Pulis switched him from one wing to another at half time so he could continue giving advice from the touchline. He does have blistering pace and age on his side, but I'm not sure that's worth £18 million and he's also not premier league proven - surely people would rather the money's spent on a back-up striker to Mitro?
We also have Kamara who is very similar in style to Traore, I would rather give him the chance to improve and save the money
In a hypothetical world where we did sign Traore and Mitrovic was injured or whatever I'd play Schurrle up-front and Traore (and AK47 if we didn't) RW. I'm not overly fussed about signing a back-up Striker because of Schurrle.
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2018, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
He has the X Factor, a very exciting player with pace to die for.
The biggest question mark is his end product.
But then I would have thought that a good coach would bring out the best in him, something that would appeal to Slavisa I would imagine.
5 Goals, 10 Assists for Boro last season isn't something to sniff at (especially when Monk didn't play him for the first month or so). Pulis has started developing him, and given the way players like AK47, Cairney, Ream, Sessegnon etc. have come on under Jokanovic I'd think he could continue it. He's a genuinely frightening player for the other team. Would back him to be the fastest player on the planet.
But for 18m, I can't see us spending that much on him.
please correct me if i/my online source is wrong, but are they not the only 5 goals he has scored for Boro in 60 odd appearances since joining them in 2016? I'd rather wait a season and see if Pulis can carry on getting the best out of him before we throw that much cash at him, think we have bigger priorities
That's true, but at the same time I'd be interested to know how many of those are sub appearances from when he was in the Prem. For a 22 year old with his physical capability and proof that with the right coaching he has started developing an end product in the last season, I wouldn't say no to him. But it's all hypothetical, and as I've said a few times we won't actually spend 18m on him.
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 11:06:23 PM
Quote from: GJB on July 31, 2018, 11:01:56 PM
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
He has the X Factor, a very exciting player with pace to die for.
The biggest question mark is his end product.
But then I would have thought that a good coach would bring out the best in him, something that would appeal to Slavisa I would imagine.
5 Goals, 10 Assists for Boro last season isn't something to sniff at (especially when Monk didn't play him for the first month or so). Pulis has started developing him, and given the way players like AK47, Cairney, Ream, Sessegnon etc. have come on under Jokanovic I'd think he could continue it. He's a genuinely frightening player for the other team. Would back him to be the fastest player on the planet.
But for 18m, I can't see us spending that much on him.
please correct me if i/my online source is wrong, but are they not the only 5 goals he has scored for Boro in 60 odd appearances since joining them in 2016? I'd rather wait a season and see if Pulis can carry on getting the best out of him before we throw that much cash at him, think we have bigger priorities
That's true, but at the same time I'd be interested to know how many of those are sub appearances from when he was in the Prem. For a 22 year old with his physical capability and proof that with the right coaching he has started developing an end product in the last season, I wouldn't say no to him. But it's all hypothetical, and as I've said a few times we won't actually spend 18m on him.
Yeah good points - Schurrle's proven he can play back-up striker, so maybe that's Slav's plan and he won't even consider an alternative striker now before the end of the window. Again though, regarding Traore, I think i'd rather let Kamara develop in that position and we spend the cash on priorities - that 18 million could go a long way to signing Plattenhardt or Tierney, but I can also see where you're coming from with Traore, he definitely has potential.
January signing maybe if the Khan's have the cash and he stays at Boro and proves himself for them up until then?
Quote from: wheelerdeeler on July 31, 2018, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 31, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
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I'd love Adama Traore. Said it right at the beginning of the summer. But I can't see us spending 18m on him. Will probably end up at Wolves or staying at Boro until they're either promoted in May or someone panic buys him in January.
He has the X Factor, a very exciting player with pace to die for.
The biggest question mark is his end product.
But then I would have thought that a good coach would bring out the best in him, something that would appeal to Slavisa I would imagine.
5 Goals, 10 Assists for Boro last season isn't something to sniff at (especially when Monk didn't play him for the first month or so). Pulis has started developing him, and given the way players like AK47, Cairney, Ream, Sessegnon etc. have come on under Jokanovic I'd think he could continue it. He's a genuinely frightening player for the other team. Would back him to be the fastest player on the planet.
But for 18m, I can't see us spending that much on him.
Of course that figure is not practical, but the mood Fulham are in, they just may give both Traore and Borough a taste of a starting bid, and find middle ground.
Now we are Premier League we hold a few more aces when it comes to players furthering their Career and expanding their Wallet.
http://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/kaderumbau-schmadtke-wird-nicht-nervos/
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and Josuha Guilavogui, however, could still go. In both, the track leads to England. FC Fulham wants Guilavogui, a first salary exchange has already been made. But nothing is fixed, if it ever will, because VfL manager Jörg Schmadtke remains hard on the Frenchman. Although Schmadtke read that the English were keen on the ball thief, "but I do not know any more". It remains true: The VfL does not want to give up Guilavogui! "We were clearly positioned there." Thanks to a clause in the contract (almost 20 million euros), Guilavogui could have left VfL this summer, but the deadline for this clause has passed, emphasized Schmadtke on Tuesday again. Only one sale remains, in which the transfer would be freely negotiable. But Schmadtke does not want that. That Guilavogui had said that he prefers to play six and eight in midfield, the manager does not blame him: "It is legitimate for a player to comment on his position."
The ball thief :005:
Lost in translation I guess.
Unless he is storing balls in his Garden Shed. ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
A little bemused why everyone thinks we need more in midfield. We have loads to my mind.
We need to sort out the fullback positions.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 01, 2018, 08:09:05 AM
A little bemused why everyone thinks we need more in midfield. We have loads to my mind.
We need to sort out the fullback positios.
COYW!
We have no genuine holding midfielder if Kmac is out for whatever reason, seeing as Norwood isn't here anymore. Seri is box to box like Johansen so is wasted in the holding role. LB is the next priority after Mawson signs but we need a DM and probably a backup striker and RB too once the LB is sorted.
Yes a left back is first priority. Would like a back up striker. We sound like kids on Santa's lap don't we?
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 01, 2018, 08:09:05 AM
A little bemused why everyone thinks we need more in midfield. We have loads to my mind.
We need to sort out the fullback positios.
COYW!
No backup for the way we play.. usually three cm's in mcdonald, Johansen and Cairney we've lost Norwood and brought in Seri which may have been passable in the Championship but no longer have Norwood for backup.
Seri is a Johansen, Cairney type player.. so if Kmac got suspended who'd fit in? You'd like cisse? We need someone who can challenge Kmac or do a better job to give us and our style of play more security.
Even then though we have no backup for AM if either cairney or Seri got injured. Johansen is good but less creative.
What I'd like to see next (chronologically)
LB -> DM (Guilavogui) -> Back up RB -> Back up ST/RW
Back-up RB? I thought Odoi was a RB ???
Quote from: General on August 01, 2018, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 01, 2018, 08:09:05 AM
A little bemused why everyone thinks we need more in midfield. We have loads to my mind.
We need to sort out the fullback positios.
COYW!
No backup for the way we play.. usually three cm's in mcdonald, Johansen and Cairney we've lost Norwood and brought in Seri which may have been passable in the Championship but no longer have Norwood for backup.
Seri is a Johansen, Cairney type player.. so if Kmac got suspended who'd fit in? You'd like cisse? We need someone who can challenge Kmac or do a better job to give us and our style of play more security.
Even then though we have no backup for AM if either cairney or Seri got injured. Johansen is good but less creative.
Post - Mawson:
LB is essential. Personally would like an upgrade on Target as he isn't attacking enough for us to play the same way as effectively in Prem.
Then an upgrade on RB.
Then reinforcements for DM - CB - ST in that order.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2018, 01:02:44 AM
Unless he is storing balls in his Garden Shed. ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
Mince would know that!!
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
Bit of an enigma. Brilliant before going to Manure, sick note since. Personally I would like this, quality is permanent and a lot of players fall by the wayside under Jose.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
Would love Shaw but I'm not sure he wants to leave, Everton gave him a chance to last season and he didn't take it. Otherwise I agree he'd be a top signing, and he originally flourished in an attacking Southampton team which played to his strengths.
Quote from: Roberty on August 01, 2018, 08:28:13 AM
Back-up RB? I thought Odoi was a RB ???
This. We have Christie, Odoi and two talented youngsters Steven Sessegnon and Marlon Fossey for that position.
Two centre-backs (Mawson and another one, Kalas would be fine), a left-back and another defensive midfielder are bigger priority.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
I would love Shaw. Imagine our back four with two young Englishman.
The way we play.. our full backs are practically the most important players on the pitch. They start the moves and they give us width when building pressure. Currently we have a Championship right back and no left back. If anywhere needs money spent...
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
I would love Shaw. Imagine our back four with two young Englishman.
We had three when we came 20th in the Championship. :hook:
Quote from: Tabby on August 01, 2018, 09:10:56 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 01, 2018, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
I would love Shaw. Imagine our back four with two young Englishman.
We had three when we came 20th in the Championship. :hook:
They helped save us getting relegated 🏴
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 01, 2018, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
I would love Shaw. Imagine our back four with two young Englishman.
I agree 200% 👍⚽️
Quote from: Milo on August 01, 2018, 09:06:50 AM
The way we play.. our full backs are practically the most important players on the pitch. They start the moves and they give us width when building pressure. Currently we have a Championship right back and no left back. If anywhere needs money spent...
We brought Christie when we were knew that Fredericks would not sign a new contract and was likely to leave - since we already had Odoi as back up - do you think it might have been to replace him ?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2018, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 01, 2018, 09:10:56 AM
We had three when we came 20th in the Championship. :hook:
They helped save us getting relegated 🏴
Yeah, the defense was what kept us up. Only 79 conceded.
Quote from: Tabby on August 01, 2018, 09:10:56 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 01, 2018, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 01, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
Luke Shaw anyone? Last year of his contract, dont think hes flavour of the month with Mourinho.
Local -ish lad from the Molesey area. Was a brilliant prospect pre injury. Young enough to kickstart his career
I would love Shaw. Imagine our back four with two young Englishman.
We had three when we came 20th in the Championship. :hook:
But were they the same quality as Mawson and Shaw? I don't think so.
To all those who want an upgrade at RB, I hope/think we will all be surprised by Christie in the PL
Quote from: Roberty on August 01, 2018, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Milo on August 01, 2018, 09:06:50 AM
The way we play.. our full backs are practically the most important players on the pitch. They start the moves and they give us width when building pressure. Currently we have a Championship right back and no left back. If anywhere needs money spent...
We brought Christie when we were knew that Fredericks would not sign a new contract and was likely to leave - since we already had Odoi as back up - do you think it might have been to replace him ?
Agreed but have we not aimed higher this window?
If we are upgrading all over the pitch.. for me two of the most crucial spots are our wing backs. Christie deserves a crack definitely as hasn't really put a foot wrong in the games he has played here and there. However is he the man to really compliment World Cup winner Schurrle?
We can obviously wait until January and replace if needed.. perhaps I'm being greedy?
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 01, 2018, 09:38:12 AM
To all those who want an upgrade at RB, I hope/think we will all be surprised by Christie in the PL
Agreed, it's LB we need.
Quote from: Milo on August 01, 2018, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 01, 2018, 09:25:53 AM
We brought Christie when we were knew that Fredericks would not sign a new contract and was likely to leave - since we already had Odoi as back up - do you think it might have been to replace him ?
Agreed but have we not aimed higher this window?
If we are upgrading all over the pitch.. for me two of the most crucial spots are our wing backs. Christie deserves a crack definitely as hasn't really put a foot wrong in the games he has played here and there. However is he the man to really compliment World Cup winner Schurrle?
We can obviously wait until January and replace if needed.. perhaps I'm being greedy?
I doubt that we can afford to buy a new team and some of last years squad will be expected to step up and gel with our illustrious new players.
Since there has been very little rumour regarding our looking for a RB, it could be that SJ rates him.
On the few times I saw him play I don't remember him doing anything wrong - he provided the pass for Mitro's first goal - and he looks a good deal stronger than Fred but still as skillful
Quote from: Tabby on August 01, 2018, 09:30:19 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2018, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 01, 2018, 09:10:56 AM
We had three when we came 20th in the Championship. :hook:
They helped save us getting relegated 🏴
Yeah, the defense was what kept us up. Only 79 conceded.
Glad you agree.
Fully agree that CC is an adept RB - but a new LB is vital. What is something of a worry, for me, was not renewing Stuart Gray's contract. Thought he had done really well with our defence.
We offered to buy Norwood last January for several millions, mostly to allow us to comply with the 6 match day loanees, and Brighton turned us down.
What is he worth now?
BRIGHTON REJECT NORWOOD BID
Brighton have rejected a fresh bid from Hull City for midfielder Ollie Norwood.
The former Manchester United trainee has won back-to-back promotions to the Premier League and is attracting interest from other Championship clubs.
Brighton are listening to offers for Norwood and value him at £1.5m, but we understand Hull remain the only club to have made formal bids at this stage.
Come on Fulham, make an announcement.
Quote from: keithh on August 01, 2018, 10:09:26 AM
Come on Fulham, make an announcement.
Breaking news...
Hilda's just received a 4 new teacups from Harrods
So expect announcements shortly!
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Quote from: keithh on August 01, 2018, 10:09:26 AM
Come on Fulham, make an announcement.
Breaking news...
Hilda's just received a 4 new teacups from Harrods
So expect announcements shortly!
Does she get her transfer info from reading tea leaves as well then?
Quote from: Roberty on August 01, 2018, 09:46:36 AM
Quote from: Milo on August 01, 2018, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 01, 2018, 09:25:53 AM
We brought Christie when we were knew that Fredericks would not sign a new contract and was likely to leave - since we already had Odoi as back up - do you think it might have been to replace him ?
Agreed but have we not aimed higher this window?
If we are upgrading all over the pitch.. for me two of the most crucial spots are our wing backs. Christie deserves a crack definitely as hasn't really put a foot wrong in the games he has played here and there. However is he the man to really compliment World Cup winner Schurrle?
We can obviously wait until January and replace if needed.. perhaps I'm being greedy?
I doubt that we can afford to buy a new team and some of last years squad will be expected to step up and gel with our illustrious new players.
Since there has been very little rumour regarding our looking for a RB, it could be that SJ rates him.
On the few times I saw him play I don't remember him doing anything wrong - he provided the pass for Mitro's first goal - and he looks a good deal stronger than Fred but still as skillful
You're right about a complete overhaul being risky... especially as the business has been done towards the end of pre season and most of our pre season friendlies have been about playing the fringe players. Hope we don't take until Christmas to wake up like last season!
After the Alfie Mawson Transfer is confirmed.
Left Back and Defensive Midfield Spots are essential and a real priority.
But other positions have also been identified to be strengthened before the deadline.
Providing deals are agreed, which is always touch and go as the Window draws to a close next week.
I'm suprised people think we're well covered up front.. before signing mitrovic people were desperate for us to sign a striker, worried about going into the new season with Fonte, Woodrow, Ayite and Kamara.
You can't realistically expect to just use one striker all season against every style of team and quality of opposition. stay tactically that is nonsensical as you become predictable and secondly if Mitro got a suspension or red card we'd be toothless up front.
Perhaps some on here need a check up at the doctors.
If we need to have backup for Mitro I,d bring in Lucas Perez from Arsenal on Loan
He was loaned out last season to Deportivo - 9 goals 8 assists
If we Sub off Mitro with 20mins to go he's the style of player you want to finish a game , and if Kamara is also a late Sub on the RW its a good combination
Bit out of the blue but I wonder is Vydra is worth a punt as a squad striker. I know Slav likes him too and would likely be at cost.
Saying that: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6912950/tammy-abraham-wanted-by-aston-villa-but-wants-to-stay-in-premier-league/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:TheSunFootball:TwImageandlink:Statement:Sport
Still think he'd be a good option.
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
I have just booked my appointment with my GP, but you are indeed correct to identify our shortcomings up front.
Hence the reason why the club are in the market for another striker and possibly a winger.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
United want more than £50m for him.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
I'd imagine in the current market, he's worth more now unfortunately. Potential alone would grant that.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
United want more than £50m for him.
Oh my god - prices really are inflated
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
United want more than £50m for him.
Oh my god - prices really are inflated
No idea where you got £24m from. United paid over £50m for him from Monaco.
Quote from: charliejones141 on August 01, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
United want more than £50m for him.
Oh my god - prices really are inflated
No idea where you got £24m from. United paid over £50m for him from Monaco.
36m I think with performance related clauses (which havent been met no doubt)
With all these pie in the sky links & wishes we have to be mindful of our wage restrictions as a newly promoted club.. Most of the players that have been touted about are on at least double what we are able to offer.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
Regardless of price he wouldn't even consider joining us, he is being linked with top European clubs and when he plays under a manager who doesn't discourage flair and attacking football he will flourish.
Does anyone know how much money would United want for Shaw? I know that last season they demanded 20 million for him.
Luke Shaw would be an ideal left back for so many reasons. Not sure what fee they would ask for him if he became available.
But I will remind Jose that he owes Fulham a favour.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
Luke Shaw would be an ideal left back for so many reasons. Not sure what fee they would ask for him if he became available.
But I will remind Jose that he owes Fulham a favour.
moron says he lazy. ok even if we take that with a pinch of salt, the southampton youth team coach said the same. its a no thanks from me.
Quote from: charliejones141 on August 01, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
How about Anthony Martial - he cost Man U £24m a few years back. He won't be valued at much more than that I don't think
United want more than £50m for him.
Oh my god - prices really are inflated
No idea where you got £24m from. United paid over £50m for him from Monaco.
why no transfer rumours from you this time Charlie?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
Luke Shaw would be an ideal left back for so many reasons. Not sure what fee they would ask for him if he became available.
But I will remind Jose that he owes Fulham a favour.
moron says he lazy. ok even if we take that with a pinch of salt, the southampton youth team coach said the same. its a no thanks from me.
Saw a lot of Man U fans saying that he lost motivation to play and prefers to indulge in burgers and getting drunk.
13:15 - no announcement as yet,,,,, is there a hitch??
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 01, 2018, 01:17:15 PM
13:15 - no announcement as yet,,,,, is there a hitch??
maybe they will make a double announcement - so waiting for someone else to sign in addition to alfie
Does seem eerily quiet at the moment... no new targets, no news of Alfie - nothing. Quietest it's been since before the window.
What's going on? We've fallen flat or calm before the storm?
The Lull before the Storm I would imagine.
He is recovering from injury.
Failed Medical? :022:
So when he does pass his medical will it be Mawsone/Mawsome
http://voetbalbelgie.be/nl/article.php?id=138912
Linked to Kara Mbodji. Would be a decent and cheap backup CB to Mawson on the right side of CB
Swansea are still making their mind up as to whether they want cash or cheque!
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 01, 2018, 01:17:15 PM
13:15 - no announcement as yet,,,,, is there a hitch??
maybe they will make a double announcement - so waiting for someone else to sign in addition to alfie
Unveil him at the Sampdoria game? "Whos that at CB for Fulham?"
Its....
MAWSOME
Progresses made for Guilavogui from Wolfsburg according to French guy on Twitter with 42k followers. Clubs are speaking now. Player meant to be very "interested".
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 01, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 01, 2018, 01:17:15 PM
13:15 - no announcement as yet,,,,, is there a hitch??
maybe they will make a double announcement - so waiting for someone else to sign in addition to alfie
Unveil him at the Sampdoria game? "Whos that at CB for Fulham?"
Its....
MAWSOME
You can tell it's him, he's the one the the bloody great bandage on his knee.😂
Fulham have made a concrete and attractive proposal for Pedro Obiang.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Fulham have made a concrete and attractive proposal for Pedro Obiang.
This was tweeted by an unaffiliated West Ham account but bearing in mind we're supposed to be in talks for Guilavogui I doubt we're also interested in Obiang who's going back to Sampdoria by all accounts.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Fulham have made a concrete and attractive proposal for Pedro Obiang.
This was tweeted by an unaffiliated West Ham account but bearing in mind we're supposed to be in talks for Guilavogui I doubt we're also interested in Obiang who's going back to Sampdoria by all accounts.
It's followed by 34k so I'm guessing it must be someone who is pretty respected by fans.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:52:57 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Fulham have made a concrete and attractive proposal for Pedro Obiang.
This was tweeted by an unaffiliated West Ham account but bearing in mind we're supposed to be in talks for Guilavogui I doubt we're also interested in Obiang who's going back to Sampdoria by all accounts.
It's followed by 34k so I'm guessing it must be someone who is pretty respected by fans.
It just retweets news about West Ham, that's like saying White Noise is ITK because he's got almost 9k followers when he just does the same thing for Fulham news.
I know were all getting spoilt now, but if I could ask for two more additions they would be Kurt Zouma (permanent) and Loftus Cheek (Loan)
We would then look a very good side, Zouma has always impressed me every time I've seen him and according to a show on Talk sport last night Loftus Cheek is available to go out on loan.
We need five more minimum IMO.
I would certainly welcome both those players you mention, but Alfie Mawson is a key addition.
Espanyol's David Lopez has signed a new contract, until 2023.
Quote from: Wolf on August 01, 2018, 03:08:54 PM
Espanyol's David Lopez has signed a new contract, until 2023.
Not too fussed. I think he was using us to get an improved contract
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 01, 2018, 03:05:18 PM
We need five more minimum IMO.
I would certainly welcome both those players you mention, but Alfie Mawson is a key addition.
After Mawson that's 4:
We've been linked with a LB and CDM so I'd expect those to be permanent.
Would also think we'd use our two loan slots for a backup CB and either striker or winger
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Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Fulham have made a concrete and attractive proposal for Pedro Obiang.
I never thought concrete was that attractive.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 02:58:37 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:52:57 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Fulham have made a concrete and attractive proposal for Pedro Obiang.
This was tweeted by an unaffiliated West Ham account but bearing in mind we're supposed to be in talks for Guilavogui I doubt we're also interested in Obiang who's going back to Sampdoria by all accounts.
It's followed by 34k so I'm guessing it must be someone who is pretty respected by fans.
It just retweets news about West Ham, that's like saying White Noise is ITK because he's got almost 9k followers when he just does the same thing for Fulham news.
And I thought what white noise said was gospel
https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/fulham/kurt-zouma-exactly-the-kind-of-signing-fulham-desperately-need-right-now/
I'm bored. Club seemingly holding back on a signing for 'effect'.. it's effect is me being bored.
Guilavogui still possible
http://sportwitness.co.uk/midfielder-interested-fulham-project-clubs-started-talks-heading-right-direction/
Midfielder 'interested' in Fulham project, clubs have started talks, heading in right direction
According to Manu Lonjon, Fulham's attempts to sign Josuha Guilavogui from Wolfsburg are heading in the right direction.
Taking to Twitter to reveal the information, the reliable Yahoo! Sport journalist explained the defensive midfielder liked the project Fulham had to offer.
Furthermore, Lonjon stated the Cottagers and Wolfsburg had now opened talks for the 27-year-old.
This came after German website Sportbuzzer claimed Fulham were interested in signing the defensive midfielder, having made a salary proposal, which is yet to be agreed with the player.
The newly promoted Premier League club were said to be 'keen' on the France international, which was confirmed by the Bundesliga outfit's sporting director, Jörg Schmadtke.
Bruno Labbadia's side are in the market to allow a few of their players leave the Volkswagen Arena as they look to reduce the squad, but they want to retain the former Atletico Madrid man.
Guilavogui had a release clause close to €20m in his contract and could have left the club for that price this summer.
However, the deadline to sign him for that price has already passed, meaning the Cottagers need to agree a fee first if they want to bring the midfielder to Craven Cottage.
"Thanks to a clause in the contract (almost 20 million euros), Guilavogui could have left VfL this summer, but the deadline for this clause has passed," Schmadtke said.
Quote from: General on August 01, 2018, 04:39:40 PM
I'm bored. Club seemingly holding back on a signing for 'effect'.. it's effect is me being bored.
I can't get my head around maybe it's to announce 2-3 at the same time. Reliable people suggesting he had his medical yesterday and fee/personal terms were agreed yesterday....don't suppose we're going to announce Ayew as well of something daft like that! Seem to recall certain current staff members chased both a few seasons back and still rate them.....
The Club have only one roll of video tape left so are waiting to announce a whole crop of signings on this last tape.
Still no confirmation on alfie,or anyone?
Off up to Harley Street for a 2nd opinion????????
Mawson deal not being announced today!
Quote from: APS on August 01, 2018, 06:37:21 PM
Mawson deal not being announced today!
Says who, apart from you
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2018, 05:03:15 PM
Quote from: General on August 01, 2018, 04:39:40 PM
I'm bored. Club seemingly holding back on a signing for 'effect'.. it's effect is me being bored.
I can't get my head around maybe it's to announce 2-3 at the same time. Reliable people suggesting he had his medical yesterday and fee/personal terms were agreed yesterday....don't suppose we're going to announce Ayew as well of something daft like that! Seem to recall certain current staff members chased both a few seasons back and still rate them.....
Has anybody actually seen him or know for sure he as at MP? There are loads of "reliable" sources and if they were all reliable we would have signed 30 players and spent £2 billion.
Maybe the knee is more of as problem than first thought and we are re negotiating the fee. I'd love it if it happens but it does seem a bit quiet though.
The knee maybe a problem,that could be a big obstacle .
Quote from: APS on August 01, 2018, 06:37:21 PM
Mawson deal not being announced today!
Other than the fact that you said on Monday that it would be announced yesterday or today...
Quote from: hovewhite on August 01, 2018, 06:46:52 PM
The knee maybe a problem,that could be a big obstacle .
Is that a knee-jerk reaction?
Could it not be that they are doing an unveiling tonight in front of the fans?
Or allowing Slav to announce it himself in a after match press conference
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
Could it not be that they are doing an unveiling tonight in front of the fans?
Or allowing Slav to announce it himself in a after match press conference
On that point will there be a GJ commentary?
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
Could it not be that they are doing an unveiling tonight in front of the fans?
Or allowing Slav to announce it himself in a after match press conference
I would have thought they'd stick to the usual announcement policy. Imo there's no point in doing it in front of 500 fans, with Jim announcing the arrival. I think it's more likely they're waiting to see what the reaction the suspect knee has to the medical.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 01, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
Quote from: APS on August 01, 2018, 06:37:21 PM
Mawson deal not being announced today!
Other than the fact that you said on Monday that it would be announced yesterday or today...
Just passing on what I've been told by someone who has been right about things previously. At the time, the information was that he would be signing yesterday or today. Now, it appears it will take a bit longer. I won't bother in future.
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
Could it not be that they are doing an unveiling tonight in front of the fans?
Or allowing Slav to announce it himself in a after match press conference
On that point will there be a GJ commentary?
Earlier on there was some talk of a GJ solo commentary, as in no Jamie.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 01, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 01, 2018, 06:46:52 PM
The knee maybe a problem,that could be a big obstacle .
Is that a knee-jerk reaction?
Maybe they KNEEd a second opinion.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 01, 2018, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 01, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
Could it not be that they are doing an unveiling tonight in front of the fans?
Or allowing Slav to announce it himself in a after match press conference
On that point will there be a GJ commentary?
Earlier on there was some talk of a GJ solo commentary, as in no Jamie.
There would be no point in announcing something in front of so few fans. Not a big pre season game as such. Besides there is no commentary as I understand it just a news feed.
Ashley Williams joining stoke on loan apparently
West Ham have gone into overdrive!
20:15
WEST HAM CLOSE IN ON SILVA
Not only that, but West Ham are also close to signing Vitoria Guimaraes forward Xande Silva.
Silva - is in the UK ahead of a medical - has been capped by Portugal at U15, U16, U17, U18, U19 & U20 level.
West Ham have a delegation in Portugal - not only to sign these players, but to set up a working partnership with Porto and Benfica.
20:10
WEST HAM IN MAREGA & BRAHIMI TALKS
Meanwhile, West Ham are also in talks with Porto over the double signing of striker Moussa Marega and winger Yacine Brahimi
20:07
WEST HAM IN FELIX TALKS
West Ham are in talks with Benfica over the signing of Joao Felix.
The 18-year-old has been capped 5 times for Portugal U21s.
West Ham have beaten off competition from Borussia Dortmund and two Premier League clubs.
Apparently were watching Aberdeen centre back Scott McKenna at Burnley tomorrow evening, we watched him in first leg last week.
Funny thing is Swansea are looking at him as a replacement for Mawson....Strange goings on😵
20:58
GOAL! SOUTHAMPTON 1-2 CELTA VIGO (Austin 50)
Southampton pull one back with a nice header from Austin. Targett sends in the cross with his right foot and Austin nods in from the edge of the six-yard box to prompt the first cheers of the night inside St Mary's.
21:02
GOAL! SOUTHAMPTON 2-2 CELTA VIGO (Armstrong, 60)
The new boy completes the comeback! Targett is the architect once again, playing a diagonal ball low into the area and Armstrong strikes first time with his right foot. Lovely stuff.
His reward? To be immediately substituted by Mark Hughes before the game restarts!
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
Hmmm like us, they are building an outfit also, to ensure their stay in the top flight is not a short one.
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
Quote from: Riversider on August 02, 2018, 07:39:23 AM
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
All them rich retired who live there putting money in the kitty?😊
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 07:44:01 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 02, 2018, 07:39:23 AM
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
As the locals call it - Gods Waiting Room
All them rich retired who live there putting money in the kitty?😊
Quote from: Riversider on August 02, 2018, 07:39:23 AM
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
Revenue from gates has been made relatively less significant and become a much smaller proportion of income by the skyrocketing TV revenues.
Bournemouth will "only" likely earn (at a guess based on an average ticket costing say £40) around £15m less than us in gates than us this season (actually closer to £10m factoring in our reduced capacity), which is the price of one fairly average Premier League FB these days.
Quote from: Riversider on August 02, 2018, 07:39:23 AM
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
It's called ambition !!
Quote from: Count Flapula on August 02, 2018, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 02, 2018, 07:39:23 AM
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
Revenue from gates has been made relatively less significant and become a much smaller proportion of income by the skyrocketing TV revenues.
Bournemouth will "only" likely earn (at a guess based on an average ticket costing say £40) around £15m less than us in gates than us this season (actually closer to £10m factoring in our reduced capacity), which is the price of one fairly average Premier League FB these days.
There own generated income from matchday and Sponsorship is about £12M and their TV money is £124M (All figures for 2016-17 season.
Wages were.
I would expect us this year to get back to Matchday income of £12M-14M plus sponosrship income.
Quote from: Statto on August 02, 2018, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: Count Flapula on August 02, 2018, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: Riversider on August 02, 2018, 07:39:23 AM
Jefferson Lerma to Bournemouth for £27 million !!!
How do they do it on gates of 11,000 ?
Revenue from gates has been made relatively less significant and become a much smaller proportion of income by the skyrocketing TV revenues.
Bournemouth will "only" likely earn (at a guess based on an average ticket costing say £40) around £15m less than us in gates than us this season (actually closer to £10m factoring in our reduced capacity), which is the price of one fairly average Premier League FB these days.
Reckon the difference will be even less than that to be honest, can't be bothered to check the accounts but I don't think our total revenue from gate receipts even added up to £15m last time we were in the Premier league
It was £12M matchday income
If this Mawson deal doesn't happen, who else should we be looking at for CB?
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 02, 2018, 09:22:10 AM
If this Mawson deal doesn't happen, who else should we be looking at for CB?
it's dragging on Mawson.
I'm going back to bed - sure way to miss something I hope.
I hope all is well with the Alfie Mawson signing.
But if there is a spanner in the works for one reason or another.
Then Chelsea's Kurt Zouma could be an option.
But let's wait and see.
There's a couple on here who have the inside track. Perhaps they could have a word with their sources re Maswon
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 02, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
There's a couple on here who have the inside track. Perhaps they could have a word with their sources re Maswon
I havent posted anything on here or TIFF re Mawson for a couple of days basically down to the fact I dont know whats happening.
My Mawson family contact is away on holiday so Im pretty much in the dark. All I know he was booked in for a medical 9am tuedsay morning. A couple of people on TIFF seem to think its all done, hopefully they're right.
One thing that I think is fairly evident to all of us is it seems there may be an issue with the medical .Cant think of any reason why it would take this long to confirm. This stuff about personal terms I dont buy because I had it he was happy with what he was being offered by Fulham on friday, also not quite sure about this 15m because I know Burnley had an offer well in excess of that accepted.
Maybe Fulham getting some specialists involved regarding the knee? I dont think anyone else has tried to hijack it although I see Everton are bombing Ashley Wiliams out. Mawson wants to come to London but a big club like Everton might give him something to think about.
My gut says its all done but if we've heard nothing by early afternoon I reckon that could mean its off.
Be gutted it is off for a number of reasons, one being I might have to swap a week in Sri Lanka watching the cricket to a few days in Butlins
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 02, 2018, 10:35:46 AM
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 02, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
There's a couple on here who have the inside track. Perhaps they could have a word with their sources re Maswon
I havent posted anything on here or TIFF re Mawson for a couple of days basically down to the fact I dont know whats happening.
My Mawson family contact is away on holiday so Im pretty much in the dark. All I know he was booked in for a medical 9am tuedsay morning. A couple of people on TIFF seem to think its all done, hopefully they're right.
One thing that I think is fairly evident to all of us is it seems there may be an issue with the medical .Cant think of any reason why it would take this long to confirm. This stuff about personal terms I dont buy because I had it he was happy with what he was being offered by Fulham on friday, also not quite sure about this 15m because I know Burnley had an offer well in excess of that accepted.
Maybe Fulham getting some specialists involved regarding the knee? I dont think anyone else has tried to hijack it although I see Everton are bombing Ashley Wiliams out. Mawson wants to come to London but a big club like Everton might give him something to think about.
My gut says its all done but if we've heard nothing by early afternoon I reckon that could mean its off.
Be gutted it is off for a number of reasons, one being I might have to swap a week in Sri Lanka watching the cricket to a few days in Butlins
Thanks for taking your time to respond
There has been no comment from Swansea. I would have thought they would have responded to the story if they were not selling him
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 02, 2018, 10:35:46 AM
I havent posted anything on here or TIFF re Mawson for a couple of days basically down to the fact I dont know whats happening.....
....My gut says its all done but if we've heard nothing by early afternoon I reckon that could mean its off.
Be gutted it is off for a number of reasons, one being I might have to swap a week in Sri Lanka watching the cricket to a few days in Butlins
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
It's good to hear from someone who actually has some valid information, although it is understood that even that is not difinitive.
It is good to see your name on a post, as the information can then be distinguished from the many guessers and the occasional fantasist who, for reasons known only to themselves word their posts in a way that suggests knowledge that doesn't, in fact, exist.
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/08/02/fulham-face-uphill-battle-to-land-senegal-centre-back/384644/
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
United paid us a reported 12 million for Smalling, bet they are selling at a profit.
Quote from: filham on August 02, 2018, 11:09:21 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
United paid us a reported 12 million for Smalling, bet they are selling at a profit.
We wouldn't have a sell-on clause would we?
Quote from: cmg on August 02, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 02, 2018, 10:35:46 AM
I havent posted anything on here or TIFF re Mawson for a couple of days basically down to the fact I dont know whats happening.....
....My gut says its all done but if we've heard nothing by early afternoon I reckon that could mean its off.
Be gutted it is off for a number of reasons, one being I might have to swap a week in Sri Lanka watching the cricket to a few days in Butlins
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
It's good to hear from someone who actually has some valid information, although it is understood that even that is not difinitive.
It is good to see your name on a post, as the information can then be distinguished from the many guessers and the occasional fantasist who, for reasons known only to themselves word their posts in a way that suggests knowledge that doesn't, in fact, exist.
So true. I wonder what kudos the misinformers think they gain.
Didn't we get Smalling for kitting his team out?
Quote from: keithh on August 02, 2018, 11:21:29 AM
Didn't we get Smalling for kitting his team out?
My recollection is that we got Smalling for nothing, but then when we saw how good he was, gave Maidstone (I think) a new kit as payment. This stopped them claiming part of our transfer fee from Utd.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on August 02, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: keithh on August 02, 2018, 11:21:29 AM
Didn't we get Smalling for kitting his team out?
My recollection is that we got Smalling for nothing, but then when we saw how good he was, gave Maidstone (I think) a new kit as payment. This stopped them claiming part of our transfer fee from Utd.
I belive that was Zat Knight. Bag of tracksuits for his club in Brum
Tick tock. We need Targett and a CB at MINIMUM. 3 defenders really.
The current back 4 is going to get torched to a crisp!!!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
Not us thank goodness. He has little pace, poor distribution& tactically limited. He does pop up with a few goals but he would not fit our current style.
Mitro will give him a torrid time.
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2018, 12:26:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
Not us thank goodness. He has little pace, poor distribution& tactically limited. He does pop up with a few goals but he would not fit our current style.
Yeah - I never knew what fergie saw in him. Reasonable pl defender - nothing more.
He's good in a back three. Van Gaal got best out of him. Think he'll do well for Wolves. I prefer Mawson though.
We definitely need a starter central defender. A left back and I still would like another forward. But then there is still time.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 02, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2018, 12:26:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
Not us thank goodness. He has little pace, poor distribution& tactically limited. He does pop up with a few goals but he would not fit our current style.
Yeah - I never knew what fergie saw in him. Reasonable pl defender - nothing more.
ït was very strange. Think he only played 6 games before they signed him, and in that time he gave away 2 pens and scored an own goal If I recall correctly
Sam Clucas of Swansea has moved to Burnley for 8 million
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2018, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 02, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2018, 12:26:33 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Chris Smalling off to Wolves.
Not us thank goodness. He has little pace, poor distribution& tactically limited. He does pop up with a few goals but he would not fit our current style.
Yeah - I never knew what fergie saw in him. Reasonable pl defender - nothing more.
ït was very strange. Think he only played 6 games before they signed him, and in that time he gave away 2 pens and scored an own goal If I recall correctly
Arsenal were interested, fergie heard this and it became a game of 'I'd rather have him than let Arsenal have him' and the bidding started really low until it got to 12m and we said thanks very much.
Should we not be going for this kinda loan deal?
Watford are reportedly close to finalising a two-year loan deal for Barcelona striker Paco Alcácer.
The Spanish striker bagged 43 goals in 118 games before joining Barca for €30m in 2016.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 02, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
Should we not be going for this kinda loan deal?
Watford are reportedly close to finalising a two-year loan deal for Barcelona striker Paco Alcácer.
The Spanish striker bagged 43 goals in 118 games before joining Barca for €30m in 2016.
Alcacer is like Fonte but just a better player. Where would you play him in our system bearing in mind he's not overly quick so can't chase balls over the top, and certainly isn't a target man so couldn't use him like we need Mitro. Good player yes, but not fit for our system which is why we probably wouldn't want him. If anything, our recruitment this summer has shown we're after players who can fill specific roles in our team based on how Slav wants to set up.
On Mawson, the Swansea manager just confirmed that it's pretty much done in his pre match press conference
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 02:22:01 PM
On Mawson, the Swansea manager just confirmed that it's pretty much done in his pre match press conference
great it's our side that's slow with news.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 02, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
Should we not be going for this kinda loan deal?
Watford are reportedly close to finalising a two-year loan deal for Barcelona striker Paco Alcácer.
The Spanish striker bagged 43 goals in 118 games before joining Barca for €30m in 2016.
Alcacer is like Fonte but just a better player. Where would you play him in our system bearing in mind he's not overly quick so can't chase balls over the top, and certainly isn't a target man so couldn't use him like we need Mitro. Good player yes, but not fit for our system which is why we probably wouldn't want him. If anything, our recruitment this summer has shown we're after players who can fill specific roles in our team based on how Slav wants to set up.
I have few questions from your assessment, speed isn't essential up top for us as the wide men do the running, as per Mitro not being overally fast.
Also if he is a better player then Fonte I have said before I'd sell Fonte and then this surely would be an upgrade on Fonte on a 2yr loan
I think theres another deal close/got complicated and they were going to do a double announcement. Cant think why else they'd wait.
If Mbdoji is only rated at 4.5 mil I would be very happy for this to go through. A better player than kalas could actually be cheaper, and with Mawson hopefully coming would give us two top options for each centre back position
Swansea statement on Mawson: https://twitter.com/swansofficial/status/1025016084590735360?s=21
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 02, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 02, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
Should we not be going for this kinda loan deal?
Watford are reportedly close to finalising a two-year loan deal for Barcelona striker Paco Alcácer.
The Spanish striker bagged 43 goals in 118 games before joining Barca for €30m in 2016.
Alcacer is like Fonte but just a better player. Where would you play him in our system bearing in mind he's not overly quick so can't chase balls over the top, and certainly isn't a target man so couldn't use him like we need Mitro. Good player yes, but not fit for our system which is why we probably wouldn't want him. If anything, our recruitment this summer has shown we're after players who can fill specific roles in our team based on how Slav wants to set up.
I have few questions from your assessment, speed isn't essential up top for us as the wide men do the running, as per Mitro not being overally fast.
Also if he is a better player then Fonte I have said before I'd sell Fonte and then this surely would be an upgrade on Fonte on a 2yr loan
Mitro isn't quick but he makes the ball stick if you play it into him as he uses his strength to shield the ball, Alcacer isn't big or strong so he can't do that, he's essentially physically the same as Fonte, who doesn't work in our system. He's also on well over £100k so paying that much for a backup is probably out of the question because we're paying a lot of money to Schurrle. II just don't see how he would play in our team, he didn't look particularly good when Barca player 4-3-3 because he's not really capable of playing a lone striker role
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Should we not be going for this kinda loan deal?
Watford are reportedly close to finalising a two-year loan deal for Barcelona striker Paco Alcácer.
The Spanish striker bagged 43 goals in 118 games before joining Barca for €30m in 2016.
Alcacer is like Fonte but just a better player. Where would you play him in our system bearing in mind he's not overly quick so can't chase balls over the top, and certainly isn't a target man so couldn't use him like we need Mitro. Good player yes, but not fit for our system which is why we probably wouldn't want him. If anything, our recruitment this summer has shown we're after players who can fill specific roles in our team based on how Slav wants to set up.
I have few questions from your assessment, speed isn't essential up top for us as the wide men do the running, as per Mitro not being overally fast.
Also if he is a better player then Fonte I have said before I'd sell Fonte and then this surely would be an upgrade on Fonte on a 2yr loan
Mitro isn't quick but he makes the ball stick if you play it into him as he uses his strength to shield the ball, Alcacer isn't big or strong so he can't do that, he's essentially physically the same as Fonte, who doesn't work in our system. He's also on well over £100k so paying that much for a backup is probably out of the question because we're paying a lot of money to Schurrle. II just don't see how he would play in our team, he didn't look particularly good when Barca player 4-3-3 because he's not really capable of playing a lone striker role
To be honest when we got relegated I didn't watch any football beyond our own league so never paid him any attention. Just seen some pundits reviews and persons on twitter saying that it will be a coup for Watford and as he plays for Barca and they talk of that DNA thought he may be able to do a job
They wont but I hope that if we do sign Mawson now, the club let us know what the delay was. I don't feel that I can get excited by signing a player who potentially has injury worries.
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Quote from: DevonFFC on August 02, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
Should we not be going for this kinda loan deal?
Watford are reportedly close to finalising a two-year loan deal for Barcelona striker Paco Alcácer.
The Spanish striker bagged 43 goals in 118 games before joining Barca for €30m in 2016.
Alcacer is like Fonte but just a better player. Where would you play him in our system bearing in mind he's not overly quick so can't chase balls over the top, and certainly isn't a target man so couldn't use him like we need Mitro. Good player yes, but not fit for our system which is why we probably wouldn't want him. If anything, our recruitment this summer has shown we're after players who can fill specific roles in our team based on how Slav wants to set up.
I have few questions from your assessment, speed isn't essential up top for us as the wide men do the running, as per Mitro not being overally fast.
Also if he is a better player then Fonte I have said before I'd sell Fonte and then this surely would be an upgrade on Fonte on a 2yr loan
Mitro isn't quick but he makes the ball stick if you play it into him as he uses his strength to shield the ball, Alcacer isn't big or strong so he can't do that, he's essentially physically the same as Fonte, who doesn't work in our system. He's also on well over £100k so paying that much for a backup is probably out of the question because we're paying a lot of money to Schurrle. II just don't see how he would play in our team, he didn't look particularly good when Barca player 4-3-3 because he's not really capable of playing a lone striker role
To be honest when we got relegated I didn't watch any football beyond our own league so never paid him any attention. Just seen some pundits reviews and persons on twitter saying that it will be a coup for Watford and as he plays for Barca and they talk of that DNA thought he may be able to do a job
To be fair I think Barca signed him off the back of a solitary season with Valencia where he was on fire, and by their standards he flopped massively. He's a good player for a continental league but I think he'll struggle in a physical league as he'd have to be in a team that play two strikers and don't expect too much from him in terms of being able to hold the ball up
We've enquired about Jetro Willems apparently (he's a left back):
https://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/nieuws/831782/willems-gewild-fulham-informeert-naar-vraagprijs-interesse-van-as-roma.html
...............and it all started so well.
Surprise As Rafa Turns Up At MP Begging To Get Mitro Back
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Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
Allegedly we're interested in Theo Hernandez of Real Madrid:
https://amp.marca.com/futbol/real-madrid/2018/08/02/5b632132e2704eb0848b4576.html?__twitter_impression=true
Although the transfer of Theo Hernandez is close to materialize, the interest of other teams is holding back the agreement. Among several suitors of the Premier stands out Fulham, who would assume the player's total card and would pay two million euros to Real Madrid.
This is the point at which Madrid and Real Sociedad do not agree. Those of Anoeta want to pay only part of the player's record, but in Madrid (since they have up to seven offers from the Premier) they understand that they must take on the whole chip
Be that as it may, the Real Sociedad is the team that has the most options to take the player (it is what both he and his agent want) as long as, they understand in Madrid, take their card.
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Allegedly we're interested in Theo Hernandez of Real Madrid
Looks like it would be on loan - appears to be us or Real Sociedad
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 04:46:52 PM
Allegedly we're interested in Theo Hernandez of Real Madrid
Assuming that'd be a loan. Hopefully it'll work out better than Soares if it comes through.
Quote from: Ordar on August 02, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
We don't have a chance of getting any of those players.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 04:46:52 PM
Allegedly we're interested in Theo Hernandez of Real Madrid
Assuming that'd be a loan. Hopefully it'll work out better than Soares if it comes through.
probably not, can you ever remember a Madrid left back who didn't think he was the next Pele and actually spent some time helping out in defence.
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Allegedly we're interested in Theo Hernandez of Real Madrid
Assuming that'd be a loan. Hopefully it'll work out better than Soares if it comes through.
probably not, can you ever remember a Madrid left back who didn't think he was the next Pele and actually spent some time helping out in defence.
Well put
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Surprise As Rafa Turns Up At MP Begging To Get Mitro Back
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Poor Rog. Think it will be fun what he has to say about a conversation with Joka.
Mawson finally announced officially
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/august/02/totally-mawson
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/august/02/totally-mawson
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 04:46:52 PM
Allegedly we're interested in Theo Hernandez of Real Madrid
Assuming that'd be a loan. Hopefully it'll work out better than Soares if it comes through.
probably not, can you ever remember a Madrid left back who didn't think he was the next Pele and actually spent some time helping out in defence.
Well put
Ah yes forgot Marcelo and Roberto Carlos didn't do any defending on their way to winning the champions league.
Very good news - 4 yr deal for Mawson ... now we need that LB & doesn't appear it'll be Targett, sadly.
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http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/august/02/totally-mawson
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Now who's next? Still in dire need of:
1. Left Back
2. CDM competition for KMac
3. Striker competition for Mitro
Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Very good news - 4 yr deal for Mawson ... now we need that LB & doesn't appear it'll be Targett, sadly.
I'd be more than happy if we were to sign Targett and I think he is a really decent player. I'm just not sure he is the same level as the other signings we have made. I think the ambition we've shown has surprised us all and I think for £10-15m there's better value elsewhere.
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Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Very good news - 4 yr deal for Mawson ... now we need that LB & doesn't appear it'll be Targett, sadly.
I'd be more than happy if we were to sign Targett and I think he is a really decent player. I'm just not sure he is the same level as the other signings we have made. I think the ambition we've shown has surprised us all and I think for £10-15m there's better value elsewhere.
Agree but then I remember he's only 22..
Quote from: Ordar on August 02, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
Would happily give them £90m for all 3!
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http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/august/02/totally-mawson
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Now who's next? Still in dire need of:
1. Left Back
2. CDM competition for KMac
3. Striker competition for Mitro
Sounds like we may be in for another winger and AM too.
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Quote from: Ordar on August 02, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
Would happily give them £90m for all 3!
Please come home Mousa!
Also thought highly of Rose in his few cameos at the WC.
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Quote from: Bracken White on August 02, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Very good news - 4 yr deal for Mawson ... now we need that LB & doesn't appear it'll be Targett, sadly.
I'd be more than happy if we were to sign Targett and I think he is a really decent player. I'm just not sure he is the same level as the other signings we have made. I think the ambition we've shown has surprised us all and I think for £10-15m there's better value elsewhere.
Agree but then I remember he's only 22..
I still hope for Augustinsson if Targett not will join. But I guess that also the Stockholm chap will remain where he is today.
Maybe still in for Cavaliero?............and was there any credence in the Welbeck rumour I wonder.....wouldn't be too much strain on him as backup to Mitro!
Gone very quiet on the Grealish front all over......I suspect a last minute deal on transfer deadline day, probably from Spurs.
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Maybe still in for Cavaliero?............and was there any credence in the Welbeck rumour I wonder.....wouldn't be too much strain on him as backup to Mitro!
Gone very quiet on the Grealish front all over......I suspect a last minute deal on transfer deadline day, probably from Spurs.
I read somewhere that both Spurs and Chelsea were interested in him - given their squads - they presumably want someone who can warm the bench
LB and a DM and I think that's all we'll look to do now.
I personally wouldn't pay 15m for Targett but if that's who they want most, just spend the extra 3m to get him.
I love McDonald, but if we can bring in an upgrade to that position then we should pull the trigger. That position is probably the most important part of the team in our system
Would be interested Danny Rose only 28, fast, strong and good crosser of the ball.
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Would be interested Danny Rose only 28, fast, strong and good crosser of the ball.
if we go in for rose, they will want sess
No doubt Theo Hernandez a player with champions league experience, bought at 19 for 22m and over 40 la liga caps at the age of 20 would be a better signing than Targett.
Targett is a good player and I rated him last season in the championship but no other club in the prem would pay above 10m for him.
Quote from: @jolslover on August 02, 2018, 07:31:30 PM
No doubt Theo Hernandez a player with champions league experience, bought at 19 for 22m and over 40 la liga caps at the age of 20 would be a better signing than Targett.
But can he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke? Or should that be Huddersfield/Burnley etc?
Ipswich set to take Tayo Edun on loan
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 02, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 02, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
Would happily give them £90m for all 3!
Stump up then😉
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Ipswich set to take Tayo Edun on loan
Good loan, hope he gets plenty of minutes for them
Palace pulled off Max Meyer, amazed by that given he was linked with every big club under the sun
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 02, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
Palace pulled off Max Meyer, amazed by that given he was linked with every big club under the sun
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was that part of the medical? seems a little extreme....
Meyer should be a good signing for them. They've had a decent window aswell
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 02, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
Palace pulled off Max Meyer, amazed by that given he was linked with every big club under the sun
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was that part of the medical? seems a little extreme....
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
I don't get the constant pushing by some fans on this board of lucas perez, perhaps you can enlighten me?
As far as I'm aware he's been at Arsenal for quite a few years and hardly played.. with arsenal or any other club in the league on loan?
Given the quality of our signings this summer and the fact we essentially have a player of similar ilk to lucas perez in fonte who also only ever sits on the bench - why on earth would he be considered let alone bid for. We need to aim higher for a second striker.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
I'd rather give extra 6-8 million and get Carlos Bacca then. Or buy someone cheaper.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 02, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
Palace pulled off Max Meyer, amazed by that given he was linked with every big club under the sun
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Didn't he star in the Producers?
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
I don't get the constant pushing by some fans on this board of lucas perez, perhaps you can enlighten me?
As far as I'm aware he's been at Arsenal for quite a few years and hardly played.. with arsenal or any other club in the league on loan?
Given the quality of our signings this summer and the fact we essentially have a player of similar ilk to lucas perez in fonte who also only ever sits on the bench - why on earth would he be considered let alone bid for. We need to aim higher for a second striker.
He's been at Arsenal just less than two years and in that time he spent a year back on loan at Deportivo. He didn't get many chances at Arsenal but still scored 8 in 22 and scored 9 with 8 assists last year in la liga (37 appearances in all competitions so again not sure where you're getting your stats from of him not playing), whilst also creating the second highest amount of chances in the league behind only Lionel Messi. Can't believe you've likened him to Fonte to be honest, no offence but that's quite an uneducated comment to make
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
I'd rather give extra 6-8 million and get Carlos Bacca then. Or buy someone cheaper.
He's 32 in September, paying £13m for someone that old isn't worth it
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
Would be a snip at that price
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 02, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
Lucas Perez is available fairly cheap, I reckon he'd be a decent backup striker for a reported £7m and I think Arsenal might even loan him to us because he's not wanted there.
I'd rather give extra 6-8 million and get Carlos Bacca then. Or buy someone cheaper.
He's 32 in September, paying £13m for someone that old isn't worth it
And Lucas Perez is 30 in September and he is 10 times worse as player than Bacca
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 02, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 02, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
Would happily give them £90m for all 3!
Would you swap them for Sess?
I have a feeling that the Khans are going to surprise us more than we believe. They will buy and loan any players that are reasonable and definite upgrades. They're proving that right now. I still expect another 6 in before end of window. They just aren't going to leave anything to chance. I think the spend will be $120MM with 1 PL loan (Perez or Welbeck), 2 more international loans, and 3 perm. We will sell Fonte, Ayite, Cisse, Djalo (possible loan). Kebano and Kamara seem good enough for top 22 - 25 duty. We need another CB, LB, (will use Odoi and our youth as backup across all 4), DM, AM, LW/RW, CF.
Thank goodness for the Khan's!
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Quote from: simplyfulham on August 02, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 02, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Tottenham will consider any offers for Toby Alderweireld, Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele should they materialise in this window, Sky Sports News understands.
Alderweireld probably out of reach, but be interesting to see what they want for the other 2
Would happily give them £90m for all 3!
Would you swap them for Sess?
A bit too old to do that. If they were 26-27 absolutely, but of course that's not the case
Aston Villa from being virtually bankrupt have made offers for several players in the 10´s of millions. What has changed?
I thought Jokanovic would want more Serbian players in our squad as we currently have just one. So, I looked at our critical positions and tried to find good Serbian players there. I found Ljubomir Fejsa from Benfica. He is a dm and he was chased by Spurs last season. He is 29 years old(maybe a bit older than I would want ideally) , but has Champions league experience and Jokanovic worked with him at Partizan Belgrade. I quite like to watch Portuguese league and I was always really impressed by the way he played. Considering his experience, him knowing our coah well, him being used to playing in a possession based team and price(shouldn't be too expensive as he is 29 years old), I think he would be a perfect signing. What are your thoughts?
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Aston Villa from being virtually bankrupt have made offers for several players in the 10´s of millions. What has changed?
Their owners.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 02, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
I thought Jokanovic would want more Serbian players in our squad as we currently have just one. So, I looked at our critical positions and tried to find good Serbian players there. I found Ljubomir Fejsa from Benfica. He is a dm and he was chased by Spurs last season. He is 29 years old(maybe a bit older than I would want ideally) , but has Champions league experience and Jokanovic worked with him at Partizan Belgrade. I quite like to watch Portuguese league and I was always really impressed by the way he played. Considering his experience, him knowing our coah well, him being used to playing in a possession based team and price(shouldn't be too expensive as he is 29 years old), I think he would be a perfect signing. What are your thoughts?
Why would he want more Serbian players ? Surely not because he is Serbian himself? No matter the nationality , if they are not good enough then he would not recommend them. It goes against our alleged policy that we would sign someone who is 29 yrs old so cant see that one happening but hey , I am of the opinion that if they can do a job then age should not matter.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 02, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
I thought Jokanovic would want more Serbian players in our squad as we currently have just one. So, I looked at our critical positions and tried to find good Serbian players there. I found Ljubomir Fejsa from Benfica. He is a dm and he was chased by Spurs last season. He is 29 years old(maybe a bit older than I would want ideally) , but has Champions league experience and Jokanovic worked with him at Partizan Belgrade. I quite like to watch Portuguese league and I was always really impressed by the way he played. Considering his experience, him knowing our coah well, him being used to playing in a possession based team and price(shouldn't be too expensive as he is 29 years old), I think he would be a perfect signing. What are your thoughts?
Update:two interesting facts:
1. He won whopping 22 domestic titles and he played in uefa europa league final
2. Apparently he holds a champions league record for most minutes without a single pass mistake. What is, for me, even more impressive is that he achieved this in a match against napoli where his pass statistics were 110/110.
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 02, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
I thought Jokanovic would want more Serbian players in our squad as we currently have just one. So, I looked at our critical positions and tried to find good Serbian players there. I found Ljubomir Fejsa from Benfica. He is a dm and he was chased by Spurs last season. He is 29 years old(maybe a bit older than I would want ideally) , but has Champions league experience and Jokanovic worked with him at Partizan Belgrade. I quite like to watch Portuguese league and I was always really impressed by the way he played. Considering his experience, him knowing our coah well, him being used to playing in a possession based team and price(shouldn't be too expensive as he is 29 years old), I think he would be a perfect signing. What are your thoughts?
Why would he want more Serbian players ? Surely not because he is Serbian himself? No matter the nationality , if they are not good enough then he would not recommend them. It goes against our alleged policy that we would sign someone who is 29 yrs old so cant see that one happening but hey , I am of the opinion that if they can do a job then age should not matter.
I thought he would want more Serbs, just like Spanish coaches hire a bunch of Spanish players if they are good and fit their playing style which this guy does. Plus I think he is class
Quote from: General on August 02, 2018, 06:34:26 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 02, 2018, 06:24:18 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 02, 2018, 06:03:03 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2018/august/02/totally-mawson
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Now who's next? Still in dire need of:
1. Left Back
2. CDM competition for KMac
3. Striker competition for Mitro
Sounds like we may be in for another winger and AM too.
Just to go back to the AM point...
We were linked with ljajic and other number 10s earlier in the window, but I really don't think we will buy one because they just don't suit our style of play.
We tend to play a defensive 433 with one sitting player to cover for our bomb-forward full-backs and then two box to box types who are able to get up the pitch, but then work hard in the press and get back to defend also. Cannot see us signing a meter, joao felix or any of the quality players of that ilk either.
They wouldn't even fit in on the wings because we need pacey players who'll run beyond mitro to stretch opp defences. More's the pity because, as much as they frustrated me, I loved watching players like Bryan or Berba because of the occasional moments of genius they could create.
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 02, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
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Quote from: Porthogs FC on August 02, 2018, 09:30:53 PM
I have a feeling that the Khans are going to surprise us more than we believe. They will buy and loan any players that are reasonable and definite upgrades. They're proving that right now. I still expect another 6 in before end of window. They just aren't going to leave anything to chance. I think the spend will be $120MM with 1 PL loan (Perez or Welbeck), 2 more international loans, and 3 perm. We will sell Fonte, Ayite, Cisse, Djalo (possible loan). Kebano and Kamara seem good enough for top 22 - 25 duty. We need another CB, LB, (will use Odoi and our youth as backup across all 4), DM, AM, LW/RW, CF.
Thank goodness for the Khan's!
I was thinking 2 total. If that actually occurs I'll buy you drinks opening day. 6 is to the moon and back.
We need at least 4 minimum LB and DM are crucial, but that LB spot has to be filled, I shall take any of these at LB, Matt Targett. Kieron Tierney, Jetro Willems, Theo Hernandez, Nicholas Tagliafico.
I think it's time to get real. What a tremendous window to date, something most of us hadn't envisaged. However, a call for 6 more incumbents isn't either practical or realistic. We still need a LB and this is key, plus a couple extras I'd suggest - then bring on the Prem!!
I don't see why another DMF is crucial. It would be nice but we have KMac. StefJo and even Seri who can play there with Cisse making a play for first team squad football and the youngsters.
Now left back is an issue and that is where I would put 100% effort and money into sorting out. We have Sess and Mack even the other Sess and Odoi, but really would need not want any of those starting at left back, so whilst we have lots of cover, a starting Premier quality left back, suited to our style is now the priority.
Overall, whilst a smallish squad, we have an excellent starting 11 (bar left back) and good cover.
Fantastic work Fulham.
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 03, 2018, 08:57:38 AM
I don't see why another DMF is crucial. It would be nice but we have KMac. StefJo and even Seri who can play there with Cisse making a play for first team squad football and the youngsters.
Now left back is an issue and that is where I would put 100% effort and money into sorting out. We have Sess and Mack even the other Sess and Odoi, but really would need not want any of those starting at left back, so whilst we have lots of cover, a starting Premier quality left back, suited to our style is now the priority.
Overall, whilst a smallish squad, we have an excellent starting 11 (bar left back) and good cover.
Fantastic work Fulham.
I'm with you, just think we need a starting lb now. I'm really happy with the rest of the squad
Quote from: Bracken White on August 03, 2018, 08:56:37 AM
I think it's time to get real. What a tremendous window to date, something most of us hadn't envisaged. However, a call for 6 more incumbents isn't either practical or realistic. We still need a LB and this is key, plus a couple extras I'd suggest - then bring on the Prem!!
It may seem unlikely, but one thing you can be sure of.
However, realistically we have 16 outfield players in the squad, not counting the Academy lads who are training with the first team.
I am in the Real World. Because after the window closes we are on our own with the big boys, and some not so big boys.
Negotiations, one or two are complicated, but I reckon Fulham could go all the way to the last hour if they are as determined as I feel they are to complete the recruitment of their targets.
Whether they get them or not is another matter, and Fulham are determined.
A left back is crucial. Another forward is important but less so. Otherwise at a push we have players that can mix and match. It will be interesting to see if we can bring in anybody else. Although where some of the figures on how much we have spent are coming from is beyond me.
A LB and another CB as Mawson hasn't played I believe yet and no Odui whose susspended for 2 games.
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
why would kalas come back? he would know he would be third choice for a start
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
I think Fulham are now after bigger fish than Kalas.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 03, 2018, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
I think Fulham are now after bigger fish than Kalas.
or not, surely if we are going for another rcb, then what quality player will come in to play second fiddle?
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 03, 2018, 08:57:38 AM
I don't see why another DMF is crucial. It would be nice but we have KMac. StefJo and even Seri who can play there with Cisse making a play for first team squad football and the youngsters.
Now left back is an issue and that is where I would put 100% effort and money into sorting out. We have Sess and Mack even the other Sess and Odoi, but really would need not want any of those starting at left back, so whilst we have lots of cover, a starting Premier quality left back, suited to our style is now the priority.
Overall, whilst a smallish squad, we have an excellent starting 11 (bar left back) and good cover.
Fantastic work Fulham.
I agree about the window so far and that LB should be top of the wanted list; where I differ is in the need for a DM. It seems to me that in the Premiership this is a critical position.
I do not see the names you mention as genuine cover. A Good DM has the skill set, a certain physicality and pace. Mac has two of those attributes but not the third which I fear may hurt us.
Also if we signed the right DM it could mean that KM could be used as a robust cover in central defence.
This window has gone so well that I wouldn't bet against the club pulling off a couple of other good signings. I accept that the loans may well not happen until the window is drawing to a close.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
why would kalas come back? he would know he would be third choice for a start
Well he's probably about eighth choice at Chelsea. Can't see him staying there and have not heard of any moves elsewhere for him.
Against Palace id play Sess at left back with Marchand and Ream and centre backs. Shurle on the left and Kamara on the right.
I just have to repeat what has already been said, essential we sign a quality left back and we should be prepared to pay good money but not the 15 million being asked for Targett.
Then I think we have a squad to take us up to Christmas, if injuries strike twice in one place we must be prepared to play players out of position or bring in youngsters. Best we give all of these new players time to settle before throwing further money about.
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on August 03, 2018, 10:25:33 AM
Against Palace id play Sess at left back with Marchand and Ream and centre backs. Shurle on the left and Kamara on the right.
I like that.
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 03, 2018, 08:57:38 AM
I don't see why another DMF is crucial. It would be nice but we have KMac. StefJo and even Seri who can play there with Cisse making a play for first team squad football and the youngsters.
Now left back is an issue and that is where I would put 100% effort and money into sorting out. We have Sess and Mack even the other Sess and Odoi, but really would need not want any of those starting at left back, so whilst we have lots of cover, a starting Premier quality left back, suited to our style is now the priority.
Overall, whilst a smallish squad, we have an excellent starting 11 (bar left back) and good cover.
Fantastic work Fulham.
+1
Starting LB, and Loans as squad cover and thats a squad. Some youth waiting in the wings that have real talent and I'd love for fulham to be a club that gives them a chance.
Hoping Celta gives us an indication of how (good) we are looking
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
why would kalas come back? he would know he would be third choice for a start
Well he's probably about eighth choice at Chelsea. Can't see him staying there and have not heard of any moves elsewhere for him.
i cant see him staying there, but he will want first team football, or at least a chance of playing. once mawson is up and running, and odoi back from suspension, he wouldnt even make our bench. just cant see him buying into that
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2018, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
why would kalas come back? he would know he would be third choice for a start
Well he's probably about eighth choice at Chelsea. Can't see him staying there and have not heard of any moves elsewhere for him.
i cant see him staying there, but he will want first team football, or at least a chance of playing. once mawson is up and running, and odoi back from suspension, he wouldnt even make our bench. just cant see him buying into that
I agree. What an incredible problem to have. A good player not wanting to come to Fulham because he would be 3rd choice as opposed to not wanting to come because Fulham are not good enough!
Quote from: Jem on August 03, 2018, 10:58:18 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2018, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 03, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I would take Kalas on loan again as backup. He would see us through until Mawson is fully fit.
why would kalas come back? he would know he would be third choice for a start
Well he's probably about eighth choice at Chelsea. Can't see him staying there and have not heard of any moves elsewhere for him.
i cant see him staying there, but he will want first team football, or at least a chance of playing. once mawson is up and running, and odoi back from suspension, he wouldnt even make our bench. just cant see him buying into that
I agree. What an incredible problem to have. A good player not wanting to come to Fulham because he would be 3rd choice as opposed to not wanting to come because Fulham are not good enough!
what a turnaround in fortunes!
Quote from: Barry@ENF on August 03, 2018, 10:15:41 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 03, 2018, 08:57:38 AM
I don't see why another DMF is crucial. It would be nice but we have KMac. StefJo and even Seri who can play there with Cisse making a play for first team squad football and the youngsters.
Now left back is an issue and that is where I would put 100% effort and money into sorting out. We have Sess and Mack even the other Sess and Odoi, but really would need not want any of those starting at left back, so whilst we have lots of cover, a starting Premier quality left back, suited to our style is now the priority.
Overall, whilst a smallish squad, we have an excellent starting 11 (bar left back) and good cover.
Fantastic work Fulham.
I agree about the window so far and that LB should be top of the wanted list; where I differ is in the need for a DM. It seems to me that in the Premiership this is a critical position.
I do not see the names you mention as genuine cover. A Good DM has the skill set, a certain physicality and pace. Mac has two of those attributes but not the third which I fear may hurt us.
Also if we signed the right DM it could mean that KM could be used as a robust cover in central defence.
This window has gone so well that I wouldn't bet against the club pulling off a couple of other good signings. I accept that the loans may well not happen until the window is drawing to a close.
Why don't we return to Wilmar Barrios. Apparently he has release clause of £13.5 million. Then our midfield trio could be Barrios-Cairney-Seri with McDonald as cover for both dm and cb.
Personally I'd like to see Kmac starting. Imo he deserves his chance in the prem.
Gives us more options for subs as he can drop into defense and we bring on a fresher Midfielder late in the game.
COYW!
Still too many Oliver Twists on here. The Club are making every effort to sign who they want at a deal within their limits.
Quote from: grandad on August 03, 2018, 12:41:26 PM
Still too many Oliver Twists on here.
As the master said when Oliver made his request, "You want more, son?"
And that's who we got.
I hope they don't go too overboard throwing the new signings in early at the expense of the Kmacs, Reams and Johansens. These guys served us well and know the style of play Joka wants inside out.
Adama Traore set for Wolves for a reported 18 million.
Will be interesting to see where we finish in comparison to Wolves. Both clubs having great windows
Their shopping has made ours look pathetic in comparison and I thought we had done well. They are genuine top 6 candidates.
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Their shopping has made ours look pathetic in comparison and I thought we had done well. They are genuine top 6 candidates.
Disagree, wouldn't be surprised if we finished above them, certainly reckon we finish closer to them than to the relegation zone
Still think we can finish in the top ten but would be surprised if we finished higher than Wolves.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 03, 2018, 01:09:50 PM
Adama Traore set for Wolves for a reported 18 million.
Does that open the door for Cavaleiro's (sp?) exit? Are we still in for him?
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Their shopping has made ours look pathetic in comparison and I thought we had done well. They are genuine top 6 candidates.
Disagree, wouldn't be surprised if we finished above them, certainly reckon we finish closer to them than to the relegation zone
We won't finish above Wolves ! Not a chance.
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 03, 2018, 12:41:26 PM
Still too many Oliver Twists on here. The Club are making every effort to sign who they want at a deal within their limits.
The way I look at our window so far is as if I told someone to tile my kitchen floor with a deadline of 9 August, they've come in and put down much better tiles than I expected, luxurious marble or something like that, done a fantastic job, but still only 60-70% finished. So I'm happy and optimistic that they'll complete a great job by the deadline, but at the same time if they stopped now I'd say actually that's crap and useless.
Statto, you and I have had our differences, but this is absolutely spot on. 6 more days to see if we are on 'amazing spaces' or 'diy sos'.
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 03, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Their shopping has made ours look pathetic in comparison and I thought we had done well. They are genuine top 6 candidates.
Disagree, wouldn't be surprised if we finished above them, certainly reckon we finish closer to them than to the relegation zone
We won't finish above Wolves ! Not a chance.
Who have they signed that wasn't there last year?
Rui Patricio and Moutinho? If its anyone else I haven't read about it
I can't honestly see how they've improved more than we have with Seri, Schurrle and Mawson all massive upgrades, potentially Fabri too
And we were at least as good as if not better than them for all except the first couple of months of last season
We bossed that team at the Cottage
Completely agree, sure they're a decent side but it's like people forget we didn't start playing til November/December last year. For the last 2/3 of the season we were the better team - we have strengthened, still some work to do, but what has happened for Wolves to overturn that we have been the better team for the last 9 months?
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 03, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 03, 2018, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Their shopping has made ours look pathetic in comparison and I thought we had done well. They are genuine top 6 candidates.
Disagree, wouldn't be surprised if we finished above them, certainly reckon we finish closer to them than to the relegation zone
We won't finish above Wolves ! Not a chance.
Who have they signed that wasn't there last year?
Rui Patricio and Moutinho? If its anyone else I haven't read about it
I can't honestly see how they've improved more than we have with Seri, Schurrle and Mawson all massive upgrades, potentially Fabri too
And we were at least as good as if not better than them for all except the first couple of months of last season
We bossed that team at the Cottage
Agreed
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Have been wondering how the whole "Portugal " experiment will work long term?
If Mendez falls out with the owners there could be tears aplenty....
Not sure 🤔 I would be comfortable as a Wolves supporter.
A good or bad start to the season will decide I suppose.
Agree, Not sure where this love in of wolves comes from, they sign Portuguese players, hit and miss in PL. We add a quality left back and some decent cover to the excellent signings we've made so far then we will do as well as them imo, if not better. As has been said we bossed them last time we played, they looked very ordinary then.
Wolves are a decent outfit, but that's as far as it goes.
We have bigger guns in important key positions.
Come the commencement of the season, I feel we will be in an even stronger position.
As has already been said, if their manager was to leave, and with some of the Portuguese players he has brought in, I am not sure that is going to work short or long term.
Edun gone to Ipswich, season loan.
any truth in Theo Hernandez do we think?
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-enquired-midfielder-likely-took-place-following-friendly/
Ipswich have signed Fulhams Tayo Eden on a season long loan.
Quote from: the nutflush on August 03, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Their shopping has made ours look pathetic in comparison and I thought we had done well. They are genuine top 6 candidates.
disagree; lots of money does not necessarily make a successful team
From the Sun:
THEO CAN GO
Real Madrid star Theo Hernandez wanted by Fulham in shock season-long loan deal
The Premier League new boys have been busy this summer on their return to the top flight and still want new additions before the window shuts
By Mark Irwin and Warren Haughton
3rd August 2018, 3:22 pmUpdated: 3rd August 2018, 4:12 pm
FULHAM are plotting a loan move for Real Madrid defender Theo Hernandez.
The Cottagers have offered the La Liga giants £1.75million to take the left-back to West London.
The Premier League new boys faced competition for the 20-year-old from Real Sociedad but looked to have moved ahead of the Basque side by offering to pay his wages in full.
Sociedad can't afford his wages, believed to be around £40,000-a-wee-week, and want Madrid to pay half of his salary.
Marseille-born Hernandez moved across town from Atletico Madrid on a six-year deal last year.
Hernandez made 23 appearances for Los Blancos under former boss Zinedine Zidane.
And after featuring the International Champions Cup defeat to Manchester United, new coach Julen Lopetegui deems the youngster as surplus to requirements.
Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic is looking to add to his squad before the deadline
If the deal does not go through, Fulham have lined up Eintracht Frankfurt defender Jetro Willems as an alternative.
Willems, 24, moved to Germany from PSV Eindhoven for £6m last year and made 28 appearances for the Bundesliga outfit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6935960/real-madrid-theo-hernandez-fulham-loan-deal/
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on August 03, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
From the Sun:
THEO CAN GO
Real Madrid star Theo Hernandez wanted by Fulham in shock season-long loan deal
The Premier League new boys have been busy this summer on their return to the top flight and still want new additions before the window shuts
By Mark Irwin and Warren Haughton
3rd August 2018, 3:22 pmUpdated: 3rd August 2018, 4:12 pm
FULHAM are plotting a loan move for Real Madrid defender Theo Hernandez.
The Cottagers have offered the La Liga giants £1.75million to take the left-back to West London.
The Premier League new boys faced competition for the 20-year-old from Real Sociedad but looked to have moved ahead of the Basque side by offering to pay his wages in full.
Sociedad can't afford his wages, believed to be around £40,000-a-wee-week, and want Madrid to pay half of his salary.
Marseille-born Hernandez moved across town from Atletico Madrid on a six-year deal last year.
Hernandez made 23 appearances for Los Blancos under former boss Zinedine Zidane.
And after featuring the International Champions Cup defeat to Manchester United, new coach Julen Lopetegui deems the youngster as surplus to requirements.
Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic is looking to add to his squad before the deadline
If the deal does not go through, Fulham have lined up Eintracht Frankfurt defender Jetro Willems as an alternative.
Willems, 24, moved to Germany from PSV Eindhoven for £6m last year and made 28 appearances for the Bundesliga outfit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6935960/real-madrid-theo-hernandez-fulham-loan-deal/
Both options outstanding.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
Why don't we return to Wilmar Barrios. Apparently he has release clause of £13.5 million. Then our midfield trio could be Barrios-Cairney-Seri with McDonald as cover for both dm and cb.
I hope not. He's the idiot who should have been red carded for his head butt to Jordan Henderson's jaw.
Quote from: ealex40 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
Why don't we return to Wilmar Barrios. Apparently he has release clause of £13.5 million. Then our midfield trio could be Barrios-Cairney-Seri with McDonald as cover for both dm and cb.
I hope not. He's the idiot who should have been red carded for his head butt to Jordan Henderson's jaw.
Well, you could also argue that if the ref was awarding the red in one hand, he should have awarded an Oscar with the other!
Has anyone seen Willems or Hernandez play? Who's better? What are they like compared to Targett and the other left backs we've been linked to?
Also, what happened to Hector Herrera? I thought that signing was close aswell?
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Has anyone seen Willems or Hernandez play? Who's better? What are they like compared to Targett and the other left backs we've been linked to?
Also, what happened to Hector Herrera? I thought that signing was close aswell?
Willems and Hernandez are both attacking full backs, and units. Think Christie, they're both similar.
Burnley have agreed a deal for Ben Gibson for 15 mil from Boro.
Makes our deal for Mawson at a similar price look great
Quote from: Rambler on August 03, 2018, 05:47:49 PM
Burnley have agreed a deal for Ben Gibson for 15 mil from Boro.
Makes our deal for Mawson at a similar price look great
I suspect that Mawson didn't fancy black pudding and hot pot on a regular basis
Any Real Madrid fan ive seen on twitter have said Hernandez is useless
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 03, 2018, 06:04:21 PM
Any Real Madrid fan ive seen on twitter have said Hernandez is useless
R Madrid fans do have pretty high expectations though.
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Has anyone seen Willems or Hernandez play? Who's better? What are they like compared to Targett and the other left backs we've been linked to?
Also, what happened to Hector Herrera? I thought that signing was close aswell?
Hernandez is practically the same player as his brother(although, obviously of a bit lower quality) and Willems was PSV Eindhovens brightest talent, he is strong and fast and still only 24. I would prefer Willems, because I think he is a better player and we could probably buy him, unlike Hernandez who would come on loan.
Quote from: ealex40 on August 03, 2018, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
Why don't we return to Wilmar Barrios. Apparently he has release clause of £13.5 million. Then our midfield trio could be Barrios-Cairney-Seri with McDonald as cover for both dm and cb.
I hope not. He's the idiot who should have been red carded for his head butt to Jordan Henderson's jaw.
Think hes agreed to stay at Boca until January
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 06:11:58 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Has anyone seen Willems or Hernandez play? Who's better? What are they like compared to Targett and the other left backs we've been linked to?
Also, what happened to Hector Herrera? I thought that signing was close aswell?
Hernandez is practically the same player as his brother(although, obviously of a bit lower quality) and Willems was PSV Eindhovens brightest talent, he is strong and fast and still only 24. I would prefer Willems, because I think he is a better player and we could probably buy him, unlike Hernandez who would come on loan.
A lot of PSV fans say that Willems is prone to making silly defensive mistakes, but is great at going forward and crossing the ball
Quote from: AllyWhite on August 03, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 06:11:58 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Has anyone seen Willems or Hernandez play? Who's better? What are they like compared to Targett and the other left backs we've been linked to?
Also, what happened to Hector Herrera? I thought that signing was close aswell?
Hernandez is practically the same player as his brother(although, obviously of a bit lower quality) and Willems was PSV Eindhovens brightest talent, he is strong and fast and still only 24. I would prefer Willems, because I think he is a better player and we could probably buy him, unlike Hernandez who would come on loan.
A lot of PSV fans say that Willems is prone to making silly defensive mistakes, but is great at going forward and crossing the ball
Yeah I heard that too, but I also heard that he improved his defensive game in Germany at Eintraht Frankfurt. And wasn't Fredericks bad defensively but with Jokanovic he improved his defensive game a lot.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on August 03, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 03, 2018, 06:11:58 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Has anyone seen Willems or Hernandez play? Who's better? What are they like compared to Targett and the other left backs we've been linked to?
Also, what happened to Hector Herrera? I thought that signing was close aswell?
Hernandez is practically the same player as his brother(although, obviously of a bit lower quality) and Willems was PSV Eindhovens brightest talent, he is strong and fast and still only 24. I would prefer Willems, because I think he is a better player and we could probably buy him, unlike Hernandez who would come on loan.
A lot of PSV fans say that Willems is prone to making silly defensive mistakes, but is great at going forward and crossing the ball
Yeah I heard that too, but I also heard that he improved his defensive game in Germany at Eintraht Frankfurt. And wasn't Fredericks bad defensively but with Jokanovic he improved his defensive game a lot.
Sign him up then! :005:
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on August 03, 2018, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 03, 2018, 06:04:21 PM
Any Real Madrid fan ive seen on twitter have said Hernandez is useless
R Madrid fans do have pretty high expectations though.
I mean they're comparing him to Marcelo whereas here we'd be comparing him to Matt Targett...
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Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
🤣 sure.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
That would be one hell of a loan signing. Mitro with Aboubakar as a backup, perfect.
Any other news, APS? A left-back?
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
:hook:
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
£2.75m a year in wages I just read.. er..
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
Quote from: Milo on August 03, 2018, 09:54:34 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
£2.75m a year in wages I just read.. er..
That is about average for the PL.
Quote from: Milo on August 03, 2018, 09:54:34 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
£2.75m a year in wages I just read.. er..
That's nothing - Aren't we paying Schurrle's at around 6-7m ?
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
You claimed this the day before the World Cup Final, and also suggested we'd be signing Lucas Hernandez on loan in the same message . I'm guessing you're going to say you made a mistake and meant to write Theo Hernandez and not Lucas, because I can't believe Fulham would be linked with the World Cup winning Left Back from Atletico.
I seriously hope you are in the know as these would be two huge signings for the squad. It's purely on your word, but here's hoping you're not a random troll on forums!
Quote from: GJB on August 03, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
You claimed this the day before the World Cup Final, and also suggested we'd be signing Lucas Hernandez on loan in the same message . I'm guessing you're going to say you made a mistake and meant to write Theo Hernandez and not Lucas, because I can't believe Fulham would be linked with the World Cup winning Left Back from Atletico.
I seriously hope you are in the know as these would be two huge signings for the squad. It's purely on your word, but here's hoping you're not a random troll on forums!
Firstly, I'm not a random troll on forums.
Secondly, I've supported this wonderful club for 22 years and I have not been this excited about Fulham in a long time. We are having an unbelievable transfer window.
The information I have posted on here has all been in good faith and I have no reason to doubt the person who is giving me this information. I am posting it on here purely out of excitement and disbelief at the players we are being linked with/signing and to share that genuine excitement with fellow Fulham fans.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
And by someone who has posted 11 times on this forum. If this is any sort of genuine post though, thank you much apprec.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: GJB on August 03, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
You claimed this the day before the World Cup Final, and also suggested we'd be signing Lucas Hernandez on loan in the same message . I'm guessing you're going to say you made a mistake and meant to write Theo Hernandez and not Lucas, because I can't believe Fulham would be linked with the World Cup winning Left Back from Atletico.
I seriously hope you are in the know as these would be two huge signings for the squad. It's purely on your word, but here's hoping you're not a random troll on forums!
Firstly, I'm not a random troll on forums.
Secondly, I've supported this wonderful club for 22 years and I have not been this excited about Fulham in a long time. We are having an unbelievable transfer window.
The information I have posted on here has all been in good faith and I have no reason to doubt the person who is giving me this information. I am posting it on here purely out of excitement and disbelief at the players we are being linked with/signing and to share that genuine excitement with fellow Fulham fans.
If you called Aboubakar and Hernandez from all those weeks ago and it turns it correct, I shall buy you a beer for being a prophet!!
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 03, 2018, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: GJB on August 03, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
You claimed this the day before the World Cup Final, and also suggested we'd be signing Lucas Hernandez on loan in the same message . I'm guessing you're going to say you made a mistake and meant to write Theo Hernandez and not Lucas, because I can't believe Fulham would be linked with the World Cup winning Left Back from Atletico.
I seriously hope you are in the know as these would be two huge signings for the squad. It's purely on your word, but here's hoping you're not a random troll on forums!
Firstly, I'm not a random troll on forums.
Secondly, I've supported this wonderful club for 22 years and I have not been this excited about Fulham in a long time. We are having an unbelievable transfer window.
The information I have posted on here has all been in good faith and I have no reason to doubt the person who is giving me this information. I am posting it on here purely out of excitement and disbelief at the players we are being linked with/signing and to share that genuine excitement with fellow Fulham fans.
If you called Aboubakar and Hernandez from all those weeks ago and it turns it correct, I shall buy you a beer for being a prophet!!
I second that! I'll be at whatever nearby pub of choice after the Lion of course for Palace - not kidding. It is sensible and great if true.
Quote from: FFC NY on August 03, 2018, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 03, 2018, 09:54:34 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
£2.75m a year in wages I just read.. er..
That's nothing - Aren't we paying Schurrle's at around 6-7m ?
Need to get my calculator out!
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: GJB on August 03, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: filham on August 03, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
With our signing record over recent weeks anyone thinking of a move is ripe for the media putting him down as Fulham bound.
But this is not reported anywhere in the media. This is from someone who works at the club.
You claimed this the day before the World Cup Final, and also suggested we'd be signing Lucas Hernandez on loan in the same message . I'm guessing you're going to say you made a mistake and meant to write Theo Hernandez and not Lucas, because I can't believe Fulham would be linked with the World Cup winning Left Back from Atletico.
I seriously hope you are in the know as these would be two huge signings for the squad. It's purely on your word, but here's hoping you're not a random troll on forums!
Firstly, I'm not a random troll on forums.
Secondly, I've supported this wonderful club for 22 years and I have not been this excited about Fulham in a long time. We are having an unbelievable transfer window.
The information I have posted on here has all been in good faith and I have no reason to doubt the person who is giving me this information. I am posting it on here purely out of excitement and disbelief at the players we are being linked with/signing and to share that genuine excitement with fellow Fulham fans.
I appreciate all the info you provide then and hope the aboubakar inside knowledge is true - apologies for the troll comment.
I also agree with your comments about our transfer window and although some people are suggesting our subs/squad depth don't have huge quality, meaning we still need lots more signings, nor do the subs of a lot of teams in the bottom half of table - it's not a problem exclusive to Fulham, which I think is sometimes forgotten. We have a very good academy compared to most of the other teams in the bottom half, who could provide occasional back up also.
3 weeks ago I felt it was going to be a fantastic window - 2 weeks ago I felt that things were moving slowly - 1 week ago I felt that I just wanted something to happen - now I'm feeling exhausted & just want to start watching the football.
Reported on TIFF that an increased bid of £13M on the table for Targett.
Quote from: Fernhurst on May 27, 2018, 10:30:03 AM
Three or four world class signings we give us a stable base in The Prem.
I do have my thoughts on where we need to strengthen, but today must be the day we celebrate with this fabulous group of players.
three or four world class signings would put us as one of the fovourites to win the league. Not many teams, if any can boast about having that many
TRANSFERS Kara Mbodji was not on training yesterday either. The Senegalese still hopes for the Premier League, but PhD student Fulham has pulled out. There was also interest from Turkish clubs. Why Fulham abandons the transfer is not known
https://www.anderlecht-online.be/nl/article/171845
Presuming we've pulled out because we've signed Mawson.
I know it's a step up but I would still like Targett back. He wouldn't need time to settle & another good young English player to go with Bettinelli Mawson & Ryan Sessegnon
I think LB , CB , ST positions we need personally. Another CB for me so we can push Odoi to cover RB. Targett back would be my choice then I would like a pacey striker to replace Fonte but what a window it's been so far
Quote from: MrFFC on August 04, 2018, 09:02:36 AM
I think LB , CB , ST positions we need personally. Another CB for me so we can push Odoi to cover RB. Targett back would be my choice then I would like a pacey striker to replace Fonte but what a window it's been so far
those 3 positions all filled would be an exceptional window for Fulham.
Quote from: keithh on August 04, 2018, 06:31:25 AM
3 weeks ago I felt it was going to be a fantastic window - 2 weeks ago I felt that things were moving slowly - 1 week ago I felt that I just wanted something to happen - now I'm feeling exhausted & just want to start watching the football.
Please avoid putting your feet up just yet, there could be more to come
Quote from: MrFFC on August 04, 2018, 09:00:29 AM
I know it's a step up but I would still like Targett back. He wouldn't need time to settle & another good young English player to go with Bettinelli Mawson & Ryan Sessegnon
I agree, and the fact that we have now increased our offer for Targett shows how determined the club are to recruit him.
Nicolò Schira (@NicoSchira)
8/4/18, 5:26 AM
#Fulham is interested in Dennis #Praet from #Sampdoria. Talks ongoing to discuss the deal. #transfers #FFC
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-signing-double-digit-millions/
Quote from: deano_632 on August 04, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
TRANSFERS Kara Mbodji was not on training yesterday either. The Senegalese still hopes for the Premier League, but PhD student Fulham has pulled out. There was also interest from Turkish clubs. Why Fulham abandons the transfer is not known
https://www.anderlecht-online.be/nl/article/171845
Presuming we've pulled out because we've signed Mawson.
I got told we've pulled out of the Mbodji deal as he has suspect knees and were not happy with his ability to be available
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Still need a few signings
LB starter
RB someone to battle with Christie
CB Someone to battle with Ream as i don't rate Odoi as he is always an accident waiting to happen when he plays
AM to Come on for Cairney if he goes down
DM to come on for MacDonald if he goes down
ST Someone similar to Mitro that is big and strong
We have enough wingers in About/Kebano/Sess/Schurrle
GK are good in Fabri/Betts
Box 2 Box Seri/johansson
Not ready at all.
This week we must put our sole attention on the defence - we need a starting LB, (maybe 2 in case one gets injured) another CB and a RB.
Absolute musts, our defence is so weak.
And maybe re employ Stuart Gray who correct me if I'm wrong, was our defence coach.
This pre season we have just leaked goals
Quote from: SerbKnight on August 04, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
Still need a few signings
LB starter
RB someone to battle with Christie
CB Someone to battle with Ream as i don't rate Odoi as he is always an accident waiting to happen when he plays
AM to Come on for Cairney if he goes down
DM to come on for MacDonald if he goes down
ST Someone similar to Mitro that is big and strong
We have enough wingers in About/Kebano/Sess/Schurrle
GK are good in Fabri/Betts
Box 2 Box Seri/johansson
Didn't we bring in Le Marchand to compete with Ream?
Quote from: SerbKnight on August 04, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
Still need a few signings
LB starter
RB someone to battle with Christie
CB Someone to battle with Ream as i don't rate Odoi as he is always an accident waiting to happen when he plays
AM to Come on for Cairney if he goes down
DM to come on for MacDonald if he goes down
ST Someone similar to Mitro that is big and strong
We have enough wingers in About/Kebano/Sess/Schurrle
GK are good in Fabri/Betts
Box 2 Box Seri/johansson
I agree with all you say.
Quote from: Rambler on August 04, 2018, 04:03:10 PM
Not ready at all.
This week we must put our sole attention on the defence - we need a starting LB, (maybe 2 in case one gets injured) another CB and a RB.
Absolute musts, our defence is so weak.
And maybe re employ Stuart Gray who correct me if I'm wrong, was our defence coach.
This pre season we have just leaked goals
Agree , We need to bulk up at the back with depth, we look fragile.
Left Back is a must. 2/3 more defenders.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2018, 04:46:06 PM
Quote from: SerbKnight on August 04, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
Still need a few signings
LB starter
RB someone to battle with Christie
CB Someone to battle with Ream as i don't rate Odoi as he is always an accident waiting to happen when he plays
AM to Come on for Cairney if he goes down
DM to come on for MacDonald if he goes down
ST Someone similar to Mitro that is big and strong
We have enough wingers in About/Kebano/Sess/Schurrle
GK are good in Fabri/Betts
Box 2 Box Seri/johansson
I agree with all you say.
Would be ideal but you're talking about 6 players to be signed in 4 days effectively.
Can definitely see us bringing in one of the many LBs we're linked with. I'd say Odoi and Le Marchand will be the RB and CB you speak of. Would also say we'll bring in one more Midfielder, probably a utility but don't know if we'll get a backup striker in. Also have to say Fossey and S Sess have both looked good enough to play backup, same with De La Torre for midfield. They won't start but if they needed to come off the bench i could see that happening
We'll probably sign a backup striker, holding midfielder and a left back. A centre back or right back upgrade is a bonus, we've got Mawson to come into the team so there's some instant improvement
Tayo Edun has equalised for Ipswich in injury time.
Quote from: therealjaybee on August 04, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2018, 04:46:06 PM
Quote from: SerbKnight on August 04, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
Still need a few signings
LB starter
RB someone to battle with Christie
CB Someone to battle with Ream as i don't rate Odoi as he is always an accident waiting to happen when he plays
AM to Come on for Cairney if he goes down
DM to come on for MacDonald if he goes down
ST Someone similar to Mitro that is big and strong
We have enough wingers in About/Kebano/Sess/Schurrle
GK are good in Fabri/Betts
Box 2 Box Seri/johansson
I agree with all you say.
Would be ideal but you're talking about 6 players to be signed in 4 days effectively.
Can definitely see us bringing in one of the many LBs we're linked with. I'd say Odoi and Le Marchand will be the RB and CB you speak of. Would also say we'll bring in one more Midfielder, probably a utility but don't know if we'll get a backup striker in. Also have to say Fossey and S Sess have both looked good enough to play backup, same with De La Torre for midfield. They won't start but if they needed to come off the bench i could see that happening
Yes Steve Sess and Fossey have impressed, and will be good back up.
Same with De la Torre.
As you say, the sands of time are running out, let's hope we can get a few more over the line.
We need to get some height into the team as well. It was no coincidence that we conceded a large amount of goals from set pieces/corners last season.
Fabri doesn't look like a keeper that comes out to collect crosses with bodies everywhere due to his height.
I think we're likely to sign another holding midfielder and temporarily use KMac at CB until Mawson fit.
Random side note but the new dugout and Fulham seats look pretty cushy.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 04, 2018, 05:52:58 PM
I think we're likely to sign another holding midfielder and temporarily use KMac at CB until Mawson fit.
That solution would not fill me with optimism for our chances.
I bet we get Kalas on deadline day.
Quote from: FulhamKC on August 04, 2018, 06:28:30 PM
I bet we get Kalas on deadline day.
I would take Kalas as cover
Would slot in and not need time to learn the system and the players
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We win at Wembley to go up. We keep Sess and TC. We add a keeper and three top tier players (Mawson, Seri & Shurrie). We add a versatile defender. Get Mitro back. Some of the youngsters have shown increased ability. We tie KMac down and constant rumors of additional activity by the back room staff to improve the team even more. All this fueled by shrewd investment from Khan yet we still have the groundless, *'nattering nabobs of negativity' worrying even before a ball is kicked.
Gotta love Fulham fans. LOL :beer:
* love this phrase
Joka quote
"Alfie Mawson's a great signing, but won't be ready for the start of the season. He must wait another three weeks, and then he'll start working with us. I don't think he'll be available to help us until September."
My view them is we need another starting RCB now !
And the LB we are clearly chasing
And a DM
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Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:41:53 PM
Joka quote
"Alfie Mawson's a great signing, but won't be ready for the start of the season. He must wait another three weeks, and then he'll start working with us. I don't think he'll be available to help us until September."
My view them is we need another starting RCB now !
And the LB we are clearly chasing
And a DM
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I completely agree. But I think the club may find it hard to sign a top quality RCB now that everyone knows he will probably just be covering for Mawson for 3 weeks...
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
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Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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So he wants a CB, LB, DM and ST.
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
He seems pretty confident about it at least.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2018, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
More from Joka
Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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So he wants a CB, LB, DM and ST.
wouldn't argue with him on that ,he's right.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2018, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
More from Joka
Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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So he wants a CB, LB, DM and ST.
We could do with those four in an ideal world. I hope we can get them, because switching round other players to cover vacant positions is a recipe for disaster.
No round pegs in square holes. It rarely works and compounds the situation.
The Premier League will be unforgiving and we will get punished.
This is no way to commence the new season.
I hope the recruitment/Negotiating team have their Quill Pens ready for players to sign on the dotted line.
Let's hope they can stay awake long enough, as the next 5 days are crucial, because there are serious deficiencies across the defence. We look very decent going forward, but once we lose that ball, then I feel anything can happen.
Building a team isn't like making 'angel delight' or 'instant whip' ! It takes time . The club has done incredibly well to date to bring in the players they have but Joka is right that he needs more. However , even if he does get them it will still take a while to make the team a unit. Also I read on the forum criticism of Fabri and Andre. Yes they have to improve but again give them time. Remember when de Gea first came to Man U - he clearly was nervous and certainly not the great keeper he has turned out to be.
Please have some patience - no matter how difficult it won't all be over by late October- it may be grim but don't give up hope. The manager is a real pro and I believe the Board are now also at the races
In Joka I trust !!! COYW !!!!
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
More from Joka
Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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Very fair assessment imo.
COYW
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2018, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
More from Joka
Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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So he wants a CB, LB, DM and ST.
Not sure if he wants a CB or RB...
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 04, 2018, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 04, 2018, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
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Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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So he wants a CB, LB, DM and ST.
Not sure if he wants a CB or RB...
I think we need a rb even more. First two games aside, we will have MLM, Ream and Odoi at cb and when Mawson recovers we will have a backup for both cbs. On rb we, imo don't have a premier league quality player(with all due respect to Christie). For me our priorities should be in this order: lb, rb, dm, st, cb, lb, number ten. First four are a must for me, and the last two is me just being greedy. As for the cb it is somewhere in the middle of those two.
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
More from Joka
Pleased with transfer business?
Transfer business is definitely not done. I don't complain but definitely we need more additions. We need back ups in some positions. I lost a defensive line from last season. I lost Ryan Fredericks, I lost Kalas, Denis Odoi is suspended, Matt Targett is not here. Only Tim Ream is in the squad. Le Marchand has come from Nice, he is part of the team we have tried in the few days ahead of us.
Matt Targett someone you are looking at?
I mention Targett, I mention Fredericks, I mention Kalas. We try in the market and definitely we must move and try to get someone who can help us be more solid and be more competitive at this level.
In the end it is like in Formula 1 race, we arrive last we need some extra petrol and some extra players if we are going to play against Premier League teams. It is not Championship team or Championship competition and we must show serious face and we must ready for the main business.
How many more transfers?
I imagine many players in the defensive line. I have brought only one. At the end somebody needs to help. Four for the back somebody needs to help Kevin McDonald and somebody needs to help Mitrovic too. At the end you have the opportunity to check and watch the game and you have some klind of opinion about the squad. We still have time ahead of us, we must fast.
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Sounds like he wants an entire back line and DM and Striker.
That'd round off this window fantastically. Glad he's a fan of Mawson.
LB and DM are absolutely mandatory, and we probably need a RB/RCB type to provide a challenge to Christie and cover across the back. Another striker would be fourth on my list, but that wouldn't go wanting, either.
The good thing is media reports have footed with what Jokanovic went in on today, so I assume everyone's in agreement on at least 2-3 of those needs.
Quote from: HV71 on August 04, 2018, 07:30:12 PM
Building a team isn't like making 'angel delight' or 'instant whip' ! It takes time . The club has done incredibly well to date to bring in the players they have but Joka is right that he needs more. However , even if he does get them it will still take a while to make the team a unit. Also I read on the forum criticism of Fabri and Andre. Yes they have to improve but again give them time. Remember when de Gea first came to Man U - he clearly was nervous and certainly not the great keeper he has turned out to be.
Please have some patience - no matter how difficult it won't all be over by late October- it may be grim but don't give up hope. The manager is a real pro and I believe the Board are now also at the races
In Joka I trust !!! COYW !!!!
Amen. This man is a soldier, not an armchair general with all the answers every second of the day. Fulham fans can't really even afford to be armchair generals. It just ain't that type of club.
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll2029972xb5CB46bB-55
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll2029979xC9409151-55
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll2029984x13eB47E0-55
Created these three polls to vote for a lb, dm and st you want us to buy. I put some names we've been linked to as well as some of the players I would want to get.
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
Yes please, really talented player.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-arsenal-liverpool-13018370
Joke mentioned Mawson today but no mention of Betts. Anyone know if he is injured and if so how long he may be out for.
Dunno if has been covered before, but have we taken any loan players for the season, apart from the 2 year deal for Schurlle, and is there a limit to.how many loan players you can have ?
I was glad to read Jokanovics assessment, he's right really.
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on August 04, 2018, 10:51:43 PM
Dunno if has been covered before, but have we taken any loan players for the season, apart from the 2 year deal for Schurlle, and is there a limit to.how many loan players you can have ?
I was glad to read Jokanovics assessment, he's right really.
4 in total 2 domestic
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
We win at Wembley to go up. We keep Sess and TC. We add a keeper and three top tier players (Mawson, Seri & Shurrie). We add a versatile defender. Get Mitro back. Some of the youngsters have shown increased ability. We tie KMac down and constant rumors of additional activity by the back room staff to improve the team even more. All this fueled by shrewd investment from Khan yet we still have the groundless, *'nattering nabobs of negativity' worrying even before a ball is kicked.
Gotta love Fulham fans. LOL :beer:
* love this phrase
Couldn't agree more
Joka knows what he wants, and I think the Club know that. Hopefully players will still come in this week and we can stay up. I think the expectation is to stay up and nothing more, for me anyway.
Brighton bid for Dan Burn.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 05, 2018, 02:42:43 AM
Joka knows what he wants, and I think the Club know that. Hopefully players will still come in this week and we can stay up. I think the expectation is to stay up and nothing more, for me anyway.
it's building blocks walking before you can run.
Preparation, there's an old saying,fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
Quote from: Riverside on August 04, 2018, 06:41:53 PM
Joka quote
"Alfie Mawson's a great signing, but won't be ready for the start of the season. He must wait another three weeks, and then he'll start working with us. I don't think he'll be available to help us until September."
My view them is we need another starting RCB now !
And the LB we are clearly chasing
And a DM
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Maybe I'm being a bit silly here,but I've got a bad feeling about this signing.The time it took for the medical and so on to get it over the line.
Come September they say,"Alfie isn't quite ready yet and needs another month".
Hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 05, 2018, 02:42:43 AM
Joka knows what he wants, and I think the Club know that. Hopefully players will still come in this week and we can stay up. I think the expectation is to stay up and nothing more, for me anyway.
My feeling is that if you are strong enough to stay up then you have a chance of raising the odds for an even better outcome. Just 'staying up' is never enough in a game of chance.
Would love to finish mid table this season, and yeah an expectation of a mid table finish would be good. But I would take staying up unless we get more defenders through the door.
I don't think th club would have gambled on Mawson if they were not entirely sure he would come good quickly, spending all this money the last thing the owners want is egg on their face
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
We win at Wembley to go up. We keep Sess and TC. We add a keeper and three top tier players (Mawson, Seri & Shurrie). We add a versatile defender. Get Mitro back. Some of the youngsters have shown increased ability. We tie KMac down and constant rumors of additional activity by the back room staff to improve the team even more. All this fueled by shrewd investment from Khan yet we still have the groundless, *'nattering nabobs of negativity' worrying even before a ball is kicked.
Groundless negativity? I don't think so!
We have done bloody well so far but concern on here that times running out is reflected in the HC's own words.
I'm sure there's more to come but the majority of discussion on here about whats still needed has been reasonable even if I disagree with some of it, while its your comments on perceived negativity that's groundless!
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 04, 2018, 09:16:10 PM
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll2029972xb5CB46bB-55
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll2029979xC9409151-55
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll2029984x13eB47E0-55
Created these three polls to vote for a lb, dm and st you want us to buy. I put some names we've been linked to as well as some of the players I would want to get.
Now that more than half of the day passed, I think it is time to post results of the polls.
In the lb poll Tierney and Targett received the same amount of votes(22 percent each) and are tied at the first place. They are followed by Rose(14 percent), Willems and Augustinsson(12 percent each) and Shaw(10 percent). Theo Hernandez only has 4 percent and Scott Malone didn't receive a single vote, while 6 percent voted for other.
In the dm poll Herrera is at the top spot(39 percent), followed by Dembele(30 percent), Guilavogui(21 percent), Arter(7 percent), Fejsa(5 percent) and David Lopez(2 percent). 2 percent voted for other and Zinchenko and Barrios didn't receive a single vote.
In the st poll Aboubakar is first(39 percent), Abraham(18 percent), option other and Cavaleiro(14 percent), Prijovic(9 percent), Bacca(5 percent) and Perez (2 percent).
Based on that(and my humble opinion if it was a tie) I created plan a, b, c, d, e
Plan a: Tierney, Herrera and Aboubakar.
Plan b: Targett, Dembele and Abraham.
Plan c: Rose, Guilavogui and Cavaleiro.
Plan d: Willems, Arter and somebody who wasn't rumored to be joining us nor was suggested by anyone in this thread.
Plan e: Augustinsson, Fejsa and Prijovic.
Personally I would be over the moon if we signed any combination of players that I put on the polls, but that plan a looks amazing 😍😍😍
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Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
We've been linked with him before, allegedly bid around €10 million for him in 2016.
But I guess it can be difficult to remember such things.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
APS still not heard anything with Fulham and Aboubaker mentioned in the same sentence....
Care to pass on any further details on this?
Jack Grealish to Spuds has been in the SSN top ten list for the whole of the transfer window and now they are not stoney broke Villa are not going to accept peanuts for him but do still need to sell to balance their FFP books
Since it was reported that Villa still owe us £6m for Ross - maybe that could be used to offset the amount of actual cash going in their direction is we did make a bid.
He is both smart and theatrical and that can win a lot of penalties during the course of the season.
With the squads that Spuds and the Scum have there would have to have a huge number of injuries before he ever got on the pitch - so maybe he might prefer to bide his time and play for us until he does get that guarantee.
Quote from: Roberty on August 05, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
Jack Grealish to Spuds has been in the SSN top ten list for the whole of the transfer window and now they are not stoney broke Villa are not going to accept peanuts for him but do still need to sell to balance their FFP books
Since it was reported that Villa still owe us £6m for Ross - maybe that could be used to offset the amount of actual cash going in their direction is we did make a bid.
He is both smart and theatrical and that can win a lot of penalties during the course of the season.
With the squads that Spuds and the Scum have there would have to have a huge number of injuries before he ever got on the pitch - so maybe he might prefer to bide his time and play for us until he does get that guarantee.
they want ridiculous money 30 mil plus. And let's not forget he was a big flop in his biggest game. Thankfully he missed a shed load of chances or we might have been in the same position as they are now
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
Ole Selnaes played many years for my Norwegian club Rosenborg. He is one of the most talented players I have ever seen, the only issue is is temper.
Great work rate, playmaker skills and he read the game so well.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
they want ridiculous money 30 mil plus. And let's not forget he was a big flop in his biggest game. Thankfully he missed a shed load of chances or we might have been in the same position as they are now
That might be the asking price but Spuds have reportedly only offered £15m (probably on the never never too) - so if they need to sell to balance the books the final sale price will be somewhere between the two.
He was good enough to attract special tactical attention from SJ and got Odoi sent off - sadly the rest of the Villa team were not in the same class or as you say we might be in their position now
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
Yep hands up.I never ever heard of him.
Quote from: Roberty on August 05, 2018, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
they want ridiculous money 30 mil plus. And let's not forget he was a big flop in his biggest game. Thankfully he missed a shed load of chances or we might have been in the same position as they are now
That might be the asking price but Spuds have reportedly only offered £15m (probably on the never never too) - so if they need to sell to balance the books the final sale price will be somewhere between the two.
He was good enough to attract special tactical attention from SJ and got Odoi sent off - sadly the rest of the Villa team were not in the same class or as you say we might be in their position now
I would take him in a flash, he has a special talent, the type that you could see the villa fans rise from their seats when he picked up the ball. Unfortunately for him I feel he is tarnished by many by his on and off field antics when he was first coming through.
He plays with his heart on his sleeve and a player that on your team you would love him but when on the opposition you detest him.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 05, 2018, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
they want ridiculous money 30 mil plus. And let's not forget he was a big flop in his biggest game. Thankfully he missed a shed load of chances or we might have been in the same position as they are now
That might be the asking price but Spuds have reportedly only offered £15m (probably on the never never too) - so if they need to sell to balance the books the final sale price will be somewhere between the two.
He was good enough to attract special tactical attention from SJ and got Odoi sent off - sadly the rest of the Villa team were not in the same class or as you say we might be in their position now
I would take him in a flash, he has a special talent, the type that you could see the villa fans rise from their seats when he picked up the ball. Unfortunately for him I feel he is tarnished by many by his on and off field antics when he was first coming through.
He plays with his heart on his sleeve and a player that on your team you would love him but when on the opposition you detest him.
The player is quality, far too good for Villa.
Slav would imo get the best out of him and coach him into a better player.
He has that X factor.
Yes he has been labelled as a player with baggage from certain quarters of the Women's Institute Brigade, but they would criticise anybody with two arms two legs and a head, if a player does not fall into the category of being dull.
He may have had some baggage in the past, but he is not a high maintenance player, just a little immature, and who are we to be so fussy.
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Quote from: DevonFFC on August 05, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
they want ridiculous money 30 mil plus. And let's not forget he was a big flop in his biggest game. Thankfully he missed a shed load of chances or we might have been in the same position as they are now
That might be the asking price but Spuds have reportedly only offered £15m (probably on the never never too) - so if they need to sell to balance the books the final sale price will be somewhere between the two.
He was good enough to attract special tactical attention from SJ and got Odoi sent off - sadly the rest of the Villa team were not in the same class or as you say we might be in their position now
I would take him in a flash, he has a special talent, the type that you could see the villa fans rise from their seats when he picked up the ball. Unfortunately for him I feel he is tarnished by many by his on and off field antics when he was first coming through.
He plays with his heart on his sleeve and a player that on your team you would love him but when on the opposition you detest him.
The player is quality, far too good for Villa.
Slav would imo get the best out of him and coach him into a better player.
He has that X factor.
Yes he has been labelled as a player with baggage from certain quarters of the Women's Institute Brigade, but they would criticise anybody with two arms two legs and a head, if a player does not fall into the category of being dull.
He may have had some baggage in the past, but he is not a high maintenance player, just a little immature, and who are we to be so fussy.
After seeing what we are about and the fans we had at Wembley, the football we play and the effort we are putting into the staying in the premier league I would say for a young player like Jack with at least 2 further transfer moves ahead of him we would be an attractive option.
Performs on the big stage, going to get minutes, in London, we have a young squad, young sess who is going to get many an England scout to watch us I think if we were serious about him he would be tempted to join us IMO.
Quote from: Hoppus on August 05, 2018, 10:17:46 AM
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Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
Ole Selnaes played many years for my Norwegian club Rosenborg. He is one of the most talented players I have ever seen, the only issue is is temper.
Great work rate, playmaker skills and he read the game so well.
Must admit I've never heard of him. What position does he play?
Quote from: Tabby on August 05, 2018, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
We've been linked with him before, allegedly bid around €10 million for him in 2016.
But I guess it can be difficult to remember such things.
Only having a laugh with Jols,he will understand, so chill out there.😜
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2018, 11:47:22 AM
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Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
Ole Selnaes played many years for my Norwegian club Rosenborg. He is one of the most talented players I have ever seen, the only issue is is temper.
Great work rate, playmaker skills and he read the game so well.
Must admit I've never heard of him. What position does he play?
Defensive Midfield and he is 6ft 2ins, 24 years.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2018, 11:48:00 AM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
We've been linked with him before, allegedly bid around €10 million for him in 2016.
But I guess it can be difficult to remember such things.
Only having a laugh with Jols,he will understand, so chill out there.😜
Yes mince it is chilly out there in the Antarctic, after the sun goes down.
But I bet it's baking hot in your Garden Shed.
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Quote from: Tabby on August 05, 2018, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 05, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
We've been linked with him before, allegedly bid around €10 million for him in 2016.
But I guess it can be difficult to remember such things.
Only having a laugh with Jols,he will understand, so chill out there.😜
Yes mince it is chilly out there in the Antarctic, after the sun goes down.
But I bet it's baking hot in your Garden Shed.
It is,the wife locked me in here for being a naughty boy last night,I always get frisky after a few glasses of Merlot.💃
Quote from: Roberty on August 05, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
Jack Grealish to Spuds has been in the SSN top ten list for the whole of the transfer window and now they are not stoney broke Villa are not going to accept peanuts for him but do still need to sell to balance their FFP books
Since it was reported that Villa still owe us £6m for Ross - maybe that could be used to offset the amount of actual cash going in their direction is we did make a bid.
He is both smart and theatrical and that can win a lot of penalties during the course of the season.
With the squads that Spuds and the Scum have there would have to have a huge number of injuries before he ever got on the pitch - so maybe he might prefer to bide his time and play for us until he does get that guarantee.
He's also reckless and vicious having seen that career ending attempt on Cairny at Wembley. Just my opinion.
No thanks.
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 05, 2018, 10:24:50 AM
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Quote from: @jolslover on August 04, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 04, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
Fulham have approached St Etienne over a deal for Norwegian international Ole Selnaes (@MirrorFootball) #FFC #ASSE
I'm a fan would be happy
I love these type of comments.. lol
I bet you'd never heard of him before the posting was put up.😜😜😜
Yep hands up.I never ever heard of him.
I've heard of Norway!! :)
grealish is too petulant and full of himself for my liking. Dont think he would fit in our set up either.
Quote from: colinwhite on August 05, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
grealish is too petulant and full of himself for my liking. Dont think he would fit in our set up either.
Agreed.
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Quote from: colinwhite on August 05, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
grealish is too petulant and full of himself for my liking. Dont think he would fit in our set up either.
Agreed.
A bit too fond of a drink too, allegedly, according to a sporting friend of mine in Ireland
If Spuds have offered £15 mil, let us offer £16 mil & knock off the £6 mil Villa owe us. If SJ can harness Mitro I am sure he could do the same with Grealish.
I personally think Grealish is overrated cause he's british.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 05, 2018, 01:52:08 PM
I personally think Grealish is overrated cause he's british.
I disagree but agreed his price is inflated but at such a young age the sell on value is most defiantly there
I think we may get in 4 more players before the closure of the window.
2 defensuve,LB/CB a DM and a CF as cover.
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Quote from: colinwhite on August 05, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
grealish is too petulant and full of himself for my liking. Dont think he would fit in our set up either.
Agreed.
A bit too fond of a drink too, allegedly, according to a sporting friend of mine in Ireland
I've heard non-specific references to his character and disposition off the pitch as well. He's not the type of person I'd like to see in a Fulham shirt. He's a dirty little cheat as well.
Dean Jones
@DeanJonesBR
The Fulham link to defensive midfielder Ole Selnaes is worth keeping an eye on. Could happen
9:22 AM - 5 Aug 2018
Quote from: mkras99 on August 05, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
Dean Jones
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The Fulham link to defensive midfielder Ole Selnaes is worth keeping an eye on. Could happen
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thanks for that.
Quote from: colinwhite on August 05, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
grealish is too petulant and full of himself for my liking. Dont think he would fit in our set up either.
that's a definite NO from me...
Quote from: grandad on August 05, 2018, 01:48:25 PM
If Spuds have offered £15 mil, let us offer £16 mil & knock off the £6 mil Villa owe us. If SJ can harness Mitro I am sure he could do the same with Grealish.
I been checking out another villa player called Harvey Knibbs after reading about him in the Birminghan rag. Natural goal scorer that's been prolific for their under 23's.
Slav could turn him into a proper asset and we can maybe take him as part payment of that 6m they owe us.
Would be great business if we can take him now before Bruce takes a proper look at him.
Kara Mbodji is no longer set to make his £4.5 million to #FFC after failing his medical due to a recurring knee issue. Have no idea about accuracy of this or if it is very old news
I was told thee same thing yesterday morning and posted on here . Most definitely true
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Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 05, 2018, 08:50:47 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
We win at Wembley to go up. We keep Sess and TC. We add a keeper and three top tier players (Mawson, Seri & Shurrie). We add a versatile defender. Get Mitro back. Some of the youngsters have shown increased ability. We tie KMac down and constant rumors of additional activity by the back room staff to improve the team even more. All this fueled by shrewd investment from Khan yet we still have the groundless, *'nattering nabobs of negativity' worrying even before a ball is kicked.
The tone from the usual suspects isn't radically different then in past windows when all we did was sign knock-kneed strikers at 11:55 on deadline day. Yes we need more but at least the club is working at it and doing rather well so far. Lets revisit this when its done and dusted.
Groundless negativity? I don't think so!
We have done bloody well so far but concern on here that times running out is reflected in the HC's own words.
I'm sure there's more to come but the majority of discussion on here about whats still needed has been reasonable even if I disagree with some of it, while its your comments on perceived negativity that's groundless!
Quote from: corbs83 on August 05, 2018, 08:08:02 PM
I was told thee same thing yesterday morning and posted on here . Most definitely true
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That's a blow !!
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 05, 2018, 07:51:55 PM
Kara Mbodji is no longer set to make his £4.5 million to #FFC after failing his medical due to a recurring knee issue. Have no idea about accuracy of this or if it is very old news
If Im reading it correctly ? He hasnt started a game since December? Surely that cant be right?
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 05, 2018, 08:11:39 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 05, 2018, 08:50:47 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
We win at Wembley to go up. We keep Sess and TC. We add a keeper and three top tier players (Mawson, Seri & Shurrie). We add a versatile defender. Get Mitro back. Some of the youngsters have shown increased ability. We tie KMac down and constant rumors of additional activity by the back room staff to improve the team even more. All this fueled by shrewd investment from Khan yet we still have the groundless, *'nattering nabobs of negativity' worrying even before a ball is kicked.
The tone from the usual suspects isn't radically different then in past windows when all we did was sign knock-kneed strikers at 11:55 on deadline day. Yes we need more but at least the club is working at it and doing rather well so far. Lets revisit this when its done and dusted.
Groundless negativity? I don't think so!
We have done bloody well so far but concern on here that times running out is reflected in the HC's own words.
I'm sure there's more to come but the majority of discussion on here about whats still needed has been reasonable even if I disagree with some of it, while its your comments on perceived negativity that's groundless!
Lets hope we get the defensive help we need. LB is to me the most important. Not only would it help the back line it'd free Sess up to move forward. Lets not forget that he was a significant portion of our "pretty" football. As to negativism, it is and has been prevalent on these pages since I arrived 14 years ago. There are a few who believe that Fulham's Europa run was an aberration. It doesn't have to be. The club has done well this window, even you admit that. What's to say we can't do more? I choose to be optimistic. Yes, if we fail it hurts but if you believe that FFC can't possibly succeed, then failure doesn't hurt. Choose what you will. 092.gif
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Quote from: colinwhite on August 05, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
grealish is too petulant and full of himself for my liking. Dont think he would fit in our set up either.
Agreed.
A bit too fond of a drink too, allegedly, according to a sporting friend of mine in Ireland
I've heard non-specific references to his character and disposition off the pitch as well. He's not the type of person I'd like to see in a Fulham shirt. He's a dirty little cheat as well.
Ha, Ha!
Brilliant
Not a suitable "chap" for us / our team then!!
Must be why no one else has had a punt (as yet) on the little blighter!!
Oh yes & I forgot the dodgy Peaky Blinders haircut
Totally unsuitable for FFC
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 05, 2018, 08:11:39 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 05, 2018, 08:50:47 AM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
We win at Wembley to go up. We keep Sess and TC. We add a keeper and three top tier players (Mawson, Seri & Shurrie). We add a versatile defender. Get Mitro back. Some of the youngsters have shown increased ability. We tie KMac down and constant rumors of additional activity by the back room staff to improve the team even more. All this fueled by shrewd investment from Khan yet we still have the groundless, *'nattering nabobs of negativity' worrying even before a ball is kicked.
The tone from the usual suspects isn't radically different then in past windows when all we did was sign knock-kneed strikers at 11:55 on deadline day. Yes we need more but at least the club is working at it and doing rather well so far. Lets revisit this when its done and dusted.
Groundless negativity? I don't think so!
We have done bloody well so far but concern on here that times running out is reflected in the HC's own words.
I'm sure there's more to come but the majority of discussion on here about whats still needed has been reasonable even if I disagree with some of it, while its your comments on perceived negativity that's groundless!
Agree
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 05, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
Jack Grealish to Spuds has been in the SSN top ten list for the whole of the transfer window and now they are not stoney broke Villa are not going to accept peanuts for him but do still need to sell to balance their FFP books
Since it was reported that Villa still owe us £6m for Ross - maybe that could be used to offset the amount of actual cash going in their direction is we did make a bid.
He is both smart and theatrical and that can win a lot of penalties during the course of the season.
With the squads that Spuds and the Scum have there would have to have a huge number of injuries before he ever got on the pitch - so maybe he might prefer to bide his time and play for us until he does get that guarantee.
they want ridiculous money 30 mil plus. And let's not forget he was a big flop in his biggest game. Thankfully he missed a shed load of chances or we might have been in the same position as they are now
I was thinking their best player on the pitch rather than big flop. He's worth 15m, not 30m, and no one in the PL needs that kind of player.
Now, an LB or CB, that's a diff story.
Some rumors emerging on Twitter about Calum Chambers from Arsenal coming on loan. Any good?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6029341/amp/Arsenals-Calum-Chambers-set-medical-Fulham.html?__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 05, 2018, 10:07:19 PM
Some rumors emerging on Twitter about Calum Chambers from Arsenal coming on loan. Any good?
Yes a decent CB not quite fulfilled his promise, but then he was one of Wenger's young buys, and he didn't really progress a lot of them.
Heard a rumour about Calum Chambers earlier on today & its all over Twitter now. Think he might come from a Fulham supporting family too?
Chambers would be a good hybrid RCB or RB if needed, certainly that would cover two positions and with left back to come it makes the defence seem a lot more watertight
Chambers on loan would be a good solution for CB and then potentially RB
It does though mean that the Hernandez LB option is no longer possible as we will have reached the max of 2 loans - see below
Loans between Premier League clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.
Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.
They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
Quote from: Riverside on August 05, 2018, 10:28:16 PM
Chambers on loan would be a good solution for CB and then potentially RB
It does though mean that the Hernandez LB option is no longer possible as we will have reached the max of 2 loans - see below
Loans between Premier League clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.
Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.
They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
The Hernandez loan would still be possible as those rules only apply to loans between Premier League/English Clubs. We're allowed 2 domestic loans but 4 loans in total.
Quote from: Riverside on August 05, 2018, 10:28:16 PM
Chambers on loan would be a good solution for CB and then potentially RB
It does though mean that the Hernandez LB option is no longer possible as we will have reached the max of 2 loans - see below
Loans between Premier League clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.
Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.
They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
Loans from a club that is from a foreign national association don't count towards the overall total, meaning we could sign Chambers and another prem loan and it doesn't affect the overall total as I understand it with Schurrle and Hernandez potentially.
Chambers on loan would be great!
Staring RCB until Mason is fit.
Can challenge for RB and DM when Mawson is back.
Also a back up RCB.
A LB, Chambers and another good forward would do it for me.
Wolves abou to tie up Traore deal with boro, £10m up front and up to £10m in add ons. Great signing
West Brom - Gabr, Sturridge, Krychowiak
Palace- Loftus cheek, Fosu Mensah, Rakip
Stoke- Jesé , Zouma, Stafylidis
Swansea- Abraham, Sanches, King
Unless the rules have changed, last season teams clearly go above the 2 limit you state, but only a max of two from the premier league
We have at present one foreign loan and if Chambers comes one English loan. That would still leave room for one of each
Didn't Chambers get a nice new contract recently and was told by new manager hes very much in his plans?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 05, 2018, 10:14:30 PM
Heard a rumour about Calum Chambers earlier on today & its all over Twitter now. Think he might come from a Fulham supporting family too?
Chambers is a Fulham fan himself. If we can get him in, I think that would be a splendid signing.
That article says we also asked for yerry mina on loan as well!?
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Strangely enough, Chambers has this evening started following Betts, Mawson and Matt Targett on Twitter,
Why would he suddenly start following Targett ?
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
Strangely enough, Chambers has this evening started following Betts, Mawson and Matt Targett on Twitter,
Why would he suddenly start following Targett ?
Because they're both from Hampshire, both played together at Southampton and when you follow the others, surely Targett will come up as a friend in common.
Quote from: corbs83 on August 05, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
That article says we also asked for yerry mina on loan as well!?
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I read he is off to Everton for £28.5m
Quote from: Newry FFC on August 05, 2018, 10:48:07 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
Strangely enough, Chambers has this evening started following Betts, Mawson and Matt Targett on Twitter,
Why would he suddenly start following Targett ?
Because they're both from Hampshire, both played together at Southampton and when you follow the others, surely Targett will come up as a friend in common.
So he's started following him this evening because he's from Hampshire on the same evening he followed two Fulham players, really ?
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2018, 11:02:09 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on August 05, 2018, 10:48:07 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
Strangely enough, Chambers has this evening started following Betts, Mawson and Matt Targett on Twitter,
Why would he suddenly start following Targett ?
Because they're both from Hampshire, both played together at Southampton and when you follow the others, surely Targett will come up as a friend in common.
So he's started following him this evening because he's from Hampshire on the same evening he followed two Fulham players, really ?
When he added Betts and Mawson, Targett probably came up as a suggested person to follow, so wouldn't read into the Targett thing too much.
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Could we see this?
Fabri
Christie Chambers Mawson Ream/Le Marchand New LB
Seri Cairney
Schürrle Mitrovic Sessegnon
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Could we see this?
Fabri
Christie Chambers Mawson Ream/Le Marchand New LB
Seri Cairney
Schürrle Mitrovic Sessegnon
Hopefully not, Cairney being one of two central midfielders will kill his ability to roam around to get the ball as he needs to. I'd rather play with three central midfielders, be it Kmac or a new DM that sits and allows Seri and TC to play further forward and play Mitro with Sess, AK or Schurrle playing off him
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Could we see this?
Fabri
Christie Chambers Mawson Ream/Le Marchand New LB
Seri Cairney
Schürrle Mitrovic Sessegnon
Please please please no CBs at full back, especially when it is so important for the way we play to have full backs that attack.
Impressed if Chambers comes in.
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/08/fulham-make-9m-bid-for-boyata/
Quote from: mkras99 on August 06, 2018, 01:28:06 AM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/08/fulham-make-9m-bid-for-boyata/
Yes. There were stories about this weeks ago then the trail went cold. I like it.
Stuttgart after Stefan according to Radio.
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
You're mistaken. Chambers will be brought in as cover for Mawson and Christie. Le Marchand is the same for the new LB and Ream. One of Chambers/Mawson will start along side one of Ream/Le Marchand.
Re Ream- and others - the new isn't always better than the tried and tested.
I expect Ream to play a crucial role in our back four, as he did in helping get us promotion.
At least at the start of the season - until others brought in prove to be better. At the moment we have quite a few new players, but they have still to bed into the team, or are injured.
Quote from: davew on August 06, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
Agree with both of you and it's a mess that has to be sorted in the next four days.
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
That would have been 2-3 weeks ago. We're now in a position where Targett would be a better option than ANYONE else because we need a LB that's settled in and ready for the starting 11 in five days!
I can't believe this mess. It's almost unbelievable that the club would spend a fortune on players like Seri without also taking care of the areas we've been struggling with for a LONG time! I was starting to get optimistic after the Seri and Mitro signings but this really doesn't look good. Our back four will be eaten alive in the PL.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2018, 07:48:27 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
That would have been 2-3 weeks ago. We're now in a position where Targett would be a better option than ANYONE else because we need a LB that's settled in and ready for the starting 11 in five days!
I can't believe this mess. It's almost unbelievable that the club would spend a fortune on players like Seri without also taking care of the areas we've been struggling with for a LONG time! I was starting to get optimistic after the Seri and Mitro signings but this really doesn't look good. Our back four will be eaten alive in the PL.
Calm down - still time left before window closes. We can't have everyone in by June. These things take time. Last window we got mitro in the final hour
No doubt there is plenty of activity behind the scenes, negotiations at boiling point, and the Medical room on standby for a number of cough drops.
It would not surprise me to see a new signing being introduced each day this week, if one day is missed then it's two the next day, up and including Thursday 5pm.
As for Tim Ream, he must be the only player In defence who is guaranteed a starting place.
The others may have to wait.
Quote from: davew on August 06, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
People criticise Ream for his lack of pace, but he's good at reading the game and times his challenges so well that he should impress. Ok, so there'll be times where his pace could be exposed, but people with pace get exposed for not being able to read the game.
No doubt we'll get a few more. We are in the pl so people will want to join us. And the club is willing to spend.
Callum chambers would be a good shout
Take a chill pill and keep calm!
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 06, 2018, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 06, 2018, 07:48:27 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
That would have been 2-3 weeks ago. We're now in a position where Targett would be a better option than ANYONE else because we need a LB that's settled in and ready for the starting 11 in five days!
I can't believe this mess. It's almost unbelievable that the club would spend a fortune on players like Seri without also taking care of the areas we've been struggling with for a LONG time! I was starting to get optimistic after the Seri and Mitro signings but this really doesn't look good. Our back four will be eaten alive in the PL.
Calm down - still time left before window closes. We can't have everyone in by June. These things take time. Last window we got mitro in the final hour
I know, but there's a huge difference between getting a striker on the last day and three quarters of a back four on the last day. We really need 3 points against Palace and it looks like we are ill prepared. We looked very poor at the back against Celta Vigo, and absolutely shocking at defending set pieces!
I'm not too worried. The club has proven it will invest, which I would imagine would have been the main worry prior to the transfer window. I would say that learning to fit in our system from a defensive viewpoint would be alot easier than joining as an attacking player.
- Chambers will be a fantastic addition, and should solidify the centre alongside Ream until Mawson is fit.
- Christie will be fine at RB, just needs a bit more protection in front of him.
- Whoever we bring in at LB will be a specialist in that position, there isnt a great deal of tactical nuances to our system for that position. Plus Sess can slot in there is we need a couple of weeks bedding in.
My main concern still remains DM. Its such a vital role in our system (probably THE most important role). I really like KMac and his leadership was vital to us last year and I actually voted him as POTS, however I feel like we need a more mobile (and frankly better) player in that role. I said this at the weekend, I'd be looking around for the very best player for that position that we can buy, and go all out. I'm talking spending 30m+ if necessary. The way we play with our fullbacks so high, we're going to get killed in transition in the Prem.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 06, 2018, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: davew on August 06, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
People criticise Ream for his lack of pace, but he's good at reading the game and times his challenges so well that he should impress. Ok, so there'll be times where his pace could be exposed, but people with pace get exposed for not being able to read the game.
One thing I will say about this is that it's crucially where I think we will miss Fredericks this year. I can recall countless times when teams would finally get in behind Team and Odoi/Kalas and flying back would be Fred to sweep in last second and get in a challenge where it otherwise would have been a 1 on 1 type situation. Fredericks really is a big loss for us in my opinion. His pace meant that we got away on a number of occasions with situations that could/would have resulted in a goal if it weren't for his speed and last ditch tracking back.
I love Ream, he has been a crucial part of our success, but when he is beaten by pace, it's been incredibly useful having speedy wingbacks to save the day. If we get in Target in then that type of challenge will be over to Christie and whilst quick, he just isn't AS quick as Fred. Time will tell how much of a loss that shade of pace is.
FULHAM AGREE CHAMBERS LOAN
Arsenal centre-back Calum Chambers looks set to join Fulham on a season-long loan.
Sky Sports News understands the two clubs have reached agreement over a loan fee and if personal terms are agreed, the player could undergo a medical later on Monday.
The 23-year old defender agreed a new four-year deal with Arsenal last month.
Let's hope that goes through without any hitches.
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 09:25:54 AM
FULHAM AGREE CHAMBERS LOAN
Arsenal centre-back Calum Chambers looks set to join Fulham on a season-long loan.
Sky Sports News understands the two clubs have reached agreement over a loan fee and if personal terms are agreed, the player could undergo a medical later on Monday.
The 23-year old defender agreed a new four-year deal with Arsenal last month.
Hopefully it's a loan where Arsenal cannot recall him during the year
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 09:03:49 AM
I'm not too worried. The club has proven it will invest, which I would imagine would have been the main worry prior to the transfer window. I would say that learning to fit in our system from a defensive viewpoint would be alot easier than joining as an attacking player.
- Chambers will be a fantastic addition, and should solidify the centre alongside Ream until Mawson is fit.
- Christie will be fine at RB, just needs a bit more protection in front of him.
- Whoever we bring in at LB will be a specialist in that position, there isnt a great deal of tactical nuances to our system for that position. Plus Sess can slot in there is we need a couple of weeks bedding in.
My main concern still remains DM. Its such a vital role in our system (probably THE most important role). I really like KMac and his leadership was vital to us last year and I actually voted him as POTS, however I feel like we need a more mobile (and frankly better) player in that role. I said this at the weekend, I'd be looking around for the very best player for that position that we can buy, and go all out. I'm talking spending 30m+ if necessary. The way we play with our fullbacks so high, we're going to get killed in transition in the Prem.
Baird was vital in that role last time we were in the pl
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 06, 2018, 09:28:31 AM
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FULHAM AGREE CHAMBERS LOAN
Arsenal centre-back Calum Chambers looks set to join Fulham on a season-long loan.
Sky Sports News understands the two clubs have reached agreement over a loan fee and if personal terms are agreed, the player could undergo a medical later on Monday.
The 23-year old defender agreed a new four-year deal with Arsenal last month.
Hopefully it's a loan where Arsenal cannot recall him during the year
as far as I'm aware, there are no recalls on season long loans between prem clubs
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
walks into our team against Palace if we get him, so would be a good signing imo
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
Not excited - but a reasonable signing. If not a starter at least a reasonable back up
I'm happy with Chambers for cover on CB, has been in the league for years, and has played in a possession based team since he was a teen. One that should be easy to slot in. Also think he did pretty well at Boro when he was loaned there.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 06, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
Not excited - but a reasonable signing. If not a starter at least a reasonable back up
The problem I have is we must have given Arsenal some assurances about how many games he would play, otherwise why would they let him go? He could just as easily bench-warm at Arsenal. Is he any better than Kalas? Because I'm sure we could have got him as well, for exactly the same role, and he would slot right in.
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
That made me laugh. Far from certain to improve us. He will however not have a nosebleed when we play out from the back, so he's ahead of some centre backs.
Ream and Chambers vs Palace with le Marchand on the left looks pretty good to go mto me with Odoi and Mawson to come in. Do we think this signing could be as well as Kalas or instead of?
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 06, 2018, 09:49:44 AM
Ream and Chambers vs Palace with le Marchand on the left looks pretty good to go mto me with Odoi and Mawson to come in. Do we think this signing could be as well as Kalas or instead of?
If we get Chambers, Kalas would be fifth/sixth (depending on how you rate Odoi there) choice CB. Is there any point to signing him then?
Messages from Arsenal fans I know saying they think he'll be a good loan for us (Can't believe he's still only 23)... Lots of gooners claiming he seems to have really come on recently and are surprised he's being loaned out. I think it's a great addition if it comes through, able to cover DM CB and full back if needed. Another who's comfortable passing out from the back... Very useful player to have on the books in my opinion.... I'd say a LB, a striker and we could be ok... Ideally a designated CDM would be great too
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 08:37:16 AM
No doubt there is plenty of activity behind the scenes, negotiations at boiling point, and the Medical room on standby for a number of cough drops.
It would not surprise me to see a new signing being introduced each day this week, if one day is missed then it's two the next day, up and including Thursday 5pm.
As for Tim Ream, he must be the only player In defence who is guaranteed a starting place.
The others may have to wait.
live in hope
Quote from: jayffc on August 06, 2018, 10:06:23 AM
Messages from Arsenal fans I know saying they think he'll be a good loan for us (Can't believe he's still only 23)... Lots of gooners claiming he seems to have really come on recently and are surprised he's being loaned out. I think it's a great addition if it comes through, able to cover DM CB and full back if needed. Another who's comfortable passing out from the back... Very useful player to have on the books in my opinion.... I'd say a LB, a striker and we could be ok... Ideally a designated CDM would be great too
I've even read comments on the Arsenal pages saying that he should start and loan out Holding/Mavropanos instead. Might be a real coup for us?
Quote from: jayffc on August 06, 2018, 10:06:23 AM
Messages from Arsenal fans I know saying they think he'll be a good loan for us (Can't believe he's still only 23)... Lots of gooners claiming he seems to have really come on recently and are surprised he's being loaned out. I think it's a great addition if it comes through, able to cover DM CB and full back if needed. Another who's comfortable passing out from the back... Very useful player to have on the books in my opinion.... I'd say a LB, a striker and we could be ok... Ideally a designated CDM would be great too
I will of course give Chambers the benefit of the doubt if he signs. But our absolute priorities then are a quality LB and (sad as it is to say) an upgrade on KMac. I love the guy but I fear he will be shown up at this level. We need someone that offers his physical presence and ball retention/tactical qualities but with an extra yard of pace.
Chambers will be a great signing if true.
It's a positive start to the week but more to do yet to keep SJ happy.
Chambers is an excellent signing for us. The squad competition for our backline will be extremely good pending 1 or 2 more especially a LB. Squads really startign to shape up to somethigns pecial. Just 2-3 missing currently.
Chambers was very good at Southampton, as was Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain not surprised Chambers didn't flourish as well as expected given what happened to the other 2. Wenger has a good record of buying English youth, but not really a good reputation for bringing them on.
Dean Jones saying Chambers is pretty much done. Fulham tried to sign him on a perm too.
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Quote from: davew on August 06, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
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Fully agree, one of the centre back places has to be Ream's to lose.
Same old boring lot slagging off a player before he has even put his boots on. Be positive. We used the loan facility well last season. We are doing the same this one.
Quote from: grandad on August 06, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
Same old boring lot slagging off a player before he has even put his boots on. Be positive. We used the loan facility well last season. We are doing the same this one.
not sure we used it well last season, we had a lot of misses. But we did eventually get it right. And I think Chambers will be a fantastic addition. And a hell of a lot of arsenal fans are not happy about him leaving
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2018, 10:33:31 AM
Dean Jones saying Chambers is pretty much done. Fulham tried to sign him on a perm too.
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Ideal would be loan this season (for FFP) with priced option to buy.
Quote from: Roberty on August 06, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.
We should have a good hard look elsewhere.
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 06, 2018, 10:33:31 AM
Dean Jones saying Chambers is pretty much done. Fulham tried to sign him on a perm too.
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Ideal would be loan this season (for FFP) with priced option to buy.
I'm also led to believe that if you have a option to buy at the end then it doesn't count as one of your two domestic loans. I'm sure someone could clear that up for me on here
Steve Bruce is so macho - SSN reporting, Bruce says that "despite the lure of one of the Premier League's top clubs, the midfielder will not leave Villa Park on the cheap."
I wonder how Greelish feels about spending another season in the Championship - I think "boyhood club" might be starting to wear a bit thin
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 06, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.
We should have a good hard look elsewhere.
The important bit being left out here is, he's not quite good enough to get in front of a champions league winner and international class full back. He would be good enough otherwise, we know that based on how well he did last season. I'd personally pay 15m for him all things considered.
If we can get Callum Chambers over the line ASAP, it's a massive plus and start to what may turn out to be a very important week for Fulham. Credit to the club for attempting to bring in quality to resolve the shortcomings at the back, let's hope it continues.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 06, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.
We should have a good hard look elsewhere.
The important bit being left out here is, he's not quite good enough to get in front of a champions league winner and international class full back. He would be good enough otherwise, we know that based on how well he did last season. I'd personally pay 15m for him all things considered.
If you chipped in, I'm sure it would help Tony make his mind up.
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 06, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.
We should have a good hard look elsewhere.
The important bit being left out here is, he's not quite good enough to get in front of a champions league winner and international class full back. He would be good enough otherwise, we know that based on how well he did last season. I'd personally pay 15m for him all things considered.
If you chipped in, I'm sure it would help Tony make his mind up.
Don't we all chip in with ST's and merchandise sales etc? I meant, I think hes worth 15m in market as you well know....
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: davew on August 06, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
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Fully agree, one of the centre back places has to be Ream's to lose.
I agree that Ream should be a starter, he was immense last year. I don't agree with Mao O'Connor's comment that Mawson's ability or readiness to start has anything to do with the fact that his side were relegated. That is irrelevant.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 10:53:43 AM
If we can get Callum Chambers over the line ASAP, it's a massive plus and start to what may turn out to be a very important week for Fulham. Credit to the club for attempting to bring in quality to resolve the shortcomings at the back, let's hope it continues.
the transfer committee have done really well and expect they will get slavs wish list .
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2018, 10:56:35 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 06, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.
We should have a good hard look elsewhere.
The important bit being left out here is, he's not quite good enough to get in front of a champions league winner and international class full back. He would be good enough otherwise, we know that based on how well he did last season. I'd personally pay 15m for him all things considered.
If you chipped in, I'm sure it would help Tony make his mind up.
Don't we all chip in with ST's and merchandise sales etc? I meant, I think hes worth 15m in market as you well know....
I don't disagree, I was just trying to be humourous as it sounded like you would personally pay that!
Quote from: grandad on August 06, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
Same old boring lot slagging off a player before he has even put his boots on. Be positive. We used the loan facility well last season. We are doing the same this one.
I hadn't noticed anyone slagging him off, must have missed those comments. Personally, I agree that he would be a great loan for us.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
Quote from: Roberty on August 06, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?
Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.
£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.
The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan
The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.
We should have a good hard look elsewhere.
The important bit being left out here is, he's not quite good enough to get in front of a champions league winner and international class full back. He would be good enough otherwise, we know that based on how well he did last season. I'd personally pay 15m for him all things considered.
In the absence of any other suitable candidate, under the circumstances and with time not on our side, and I appreciate that Fulham want a good deal out of this.
Hence the reason why so far we are not marching to the beat of the Southampton Drum.
But sometimes there comes a moment unfortunately when you can't fanny around any longer, when that moment is I do not know.
But Matt Targett would be a good signing. Certainly good enough for us.
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
Well I think he will be a terrific addition and as for your view that the "Arsene Wenger school of defending" involves always looking likely to give away a goal, well I really can't see that Arsenal coach their defenders that way.
With the Targett situation, I havent seen that our last 13m bit has been rejected? So I assume that negotiations are ongoing. Unless paying an extra million or 2 is going to prohibit any other signings that we're looking to make, just get it done.
Personally, I think we could do better than Targett, especially for the money that is being mentioned for him. However we know what we're buying with Targett and know that he can fit into the system, which I suppose is a valuable, safe advantage that buying him has over a better, overseas player at this juncture of the window.
Although realistically we only have Seri, Schurrle and Chambers who will currently be first choice from the team that finished last season, so continuity shouldnt be an excuse at all
Quote from: Twig on August 06, 2018, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: filham on August 06, 2018, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: davew on August 06, 2018, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: maoconnor on August 06, 2018, 12:36:43 AM
How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.
Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
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Fully agree, one of the centre back places has to be Ream's to lose.
I agree that Ream should be a starter, he was immense last year. I don't agree with Mao O'Connor's comment that Mawson's ability or readiness to start has anything to do with the fact that his side were relegated. That is irrelevant.
All of the above is a moot point as Ream is a LCB and Mawson / Chambers are RCB, so the latter two will be in direct competition with each other to play alongside Ream or MLM. Ream will get this chance for sure this season and rightly so.
Chambers would be another cracking signing. Think he also has more pace about him than the other CBs on our books which is another bonus. Heartening to hear he comes from a Fulham supporting family if thats true!
Quote from: Count Flapula on August 06, 2018, 11:11:11 AM
All of the above is a moot point as Ream is a LCB and Mawson / Chambers are RCB, so the latter two will be in direct competition with each other to play alongside Ream or MLM. Ream will get this chance for sure this season and rightly so.
Mawson played on the left last season. It is possible that if we get Chambers in, we could end up playing Chambers/Mawson.
I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.
he's there player so they call the shots,money, players contract.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
Wherever, he sounds like versatile cover and most of our acquisitions seem to be at least partly chosen for versatility.
Quote from: hovewhite on August 06, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.
he's there player so they call the shots,money, players contract.
I think that's what I saw saying but you've put it more succinctly.
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
Wherever, he sounds like versatile cover and most of our acquisitions seem to be at least partly chosen for versatility.
Agreed.
A good policy to have a few players who are comfortable in a number of positions.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
Wherever, he sounds like versatile cover and most of our acquisitions seem to be at least partly chosen for versatility.
Agreed.
A good policy to have a few players who are comfortable in a number of positions.
COYW!
yep, we might not have gone up, if our right footed left back couldn't have slotted in as a CB. I never used to be a fan of the jack of all trades, but it has served us well in the last couple of seasons
This gooner is not happy with Callum leaving
https://paininthearsenal.com/2018/08/06/arsenal-calum-chambers-fulham-mistake/
Arsenal's loss is our gain thankfully and hopefully.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
No way. I've watched almost every Arsenal game (and Fulham of course please don't stone me) for the last 3 seasons and every time Chambers played, he impressed at RCB not RB.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 06, 2018, 11:48:31 AM
This gooner is not happy with Callum leaving
https://paininthearsenal.com/2018/08/06/arsenal-calum-chambers-fulham-mistake/
And this Arsenal fan writes "Chambers is, as it stands, our best defender from last year." And do some of you still think that he's not good enough?
Quote from: AllyWhite on August 06, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
No way. I've watched almost every Arsenal game (and Fulham of course please don't stone me) for the last 3 seasons and every time Chambers played, he impressed at RCB not RB.
That's even better news.
Lucas Perez also going to Fulham for just £5million – Arsenal clearout gathers pace
Just after it was confirmed that the Arsenal defender Calum Chambers was moving to Fulham on loan, we have now heard from Lucas' Perez's agent, who denied any contact with Sporting Lisbon the other day, now admits that his client could be moving across London as well... CalcioMercato reported today...
Despite little contact being made the other day, Lucas Perez's agent, Rodrigo Lovelle, spoke exclusively to Sam Wilson of CalcioMercato.com this morning, confirming that his player could well be on the way out of Arsenal and to West Ham.
Lovelle said, when asked about contact with West Ham: "West Ham is an option, he might leave [Arsenal]"
Then, Lovelle justified the potential move, stating that "West Ham keeps him in London and in the Premier League, and they are a great club."
So, it appears that now a move for Lucas Perez is finally beginning to materialise, in a deal that could see him move across London for as little as €6 million, a fraction of the €20 million Arsenal signed Lucas for from Deportivo.
I can't say I am surprised at this sale, like I was with Chambers' loan, but the Spaniard could be a good buy for the Cottagers. One thing I will say about these deals is that it means that Arsenal don't seriously consider Fulham to be a rival for the Top Six positions!
http://www.justarsenal.com/lucas-perez-also-going-to-fulham-for-just-5million-arsenal-clearout-gathers-pace/135760
I just read this and I am confused. Is he going to West Ham or coming to us? Am I missing something here?
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 06, 2018, 12:03:17 PM
Lucas Perez also going to Fulham for just £5million – Arsenal clearout gathers pace
Just after it was confirmed that the Arsenal defender Calum Chambers was moving to Fulham on loan, we have now heard from Lucas' Perez's agent, who denied any contact with Sporting Lisbon the other day, now admits that his client could be moving across London as well... CalcioMercato reported today...
Despite little contact being made the other day, Lucas Perez's agent, Rodrigo Lovelle, spoke exclusively to Sam Wilson of CalcioMercato.com this morning, confirming that his player could well be on the way out of Arsenal and to West Ham.
Lovelle said, when asked about contact with West Ham: "West Ham is an option, he might leave [Arsenal]"
Then, Lovelle justified the potential move, stating that "West Ham keeps him in London and in the Premier League, and they are a great club."
So, it appears that now a move for Lucas Perez is finally beginning to materialise, in a deal that could see him move across London for as little as €6 million, a fraction of the €20 million Arsenal signed Lucas for from Deportivo.
I can't say I am surprised at this sale, like I was with Chambers' loan, but the Spaniard could be a good buy for the Cottagers. One thing I will say about these deals is that it means that Arsenal don't seriously consider Fulham to be a rival for the Top Six positions!
http://www.justarsenal.com/lucas-perez-also-going-to-fulham-for-just-5million-arsenal-clearout-gathers-pace/135760
Which one is it? West Ham or Fulham??
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Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.
A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.
So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.
No way. I've watched almost every Arsenal game (and Fulham of course please don't stone me) for the last 3 seasons and every time Chambers played, he impressed at RCB not RB.
That's even better news.
I'll buy that for a dollar!
lol
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 06, 2018, 12:03:17 PM
Lucas Perez also going to Fulham for just £5million – Arsenal clearout gathers pace
Just after it was confirmed that the Arsenal defender Calum Chambers was moving to Fulham on loan, we have now heard from Lucas' Perez's agent, who denied any contact with Sporting Lisbon the other day, now admits that his client could be moving across London as well... CalcioMercato reported today...
Despite little contact being made the other day, Lucas Perez's agent, Rodrigo Lovelle, spoke exclusively to Sam Wilson of CalcioMercato.com this morning, confirming that his player could well be on the way out of Arsenal and to West Ham.
Lovelle said, when asked about contact with West Ham: "West Ham is an option, he might leave [Arsenal]"
Then, Lovelle justified the potential move, stating that "West Ham keeps him in London and in the Premier League, and they are a great club."
So, it appears that now a move for Lucas Perez is finally beginning to materialise, in a deal that could see him move across London for as little as €6 million, a fraction of the €20 million Arsenal signed Lucas for from Deportivo.
I can't say I am surprised at this sale, like I was with Chambers' loan, but the Spaniard could be a good buy for the Cottagers. One thing I will say about these deals is that it means that Arsenal don't seriously consider Fulham to be a rival for the Top Six positions!
http://www.justarsenal.com/lucas-perez-also-going-to-fulham-for-just-5million-arsenal-clearout-gathers-pace/135760
Which one is it? West Ham or Fulham??
Perez to West Ham according to G Di Marzio who is usually pretty accurate.
What a strange article
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 06, 2018, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 06, 2018, 12:03:17 PM
Lucas Perez also going to Fulham for just £5million – Arsenal clearout gathers pace
Just after it was confirmed that the Arsenal defender Calum Chambers was moving to Fulham on loan, we have now heard from Lucas' Perez's agent, who denied any contact with Sporting Lisbon the other day, now admits that his client could be moving across London as well... CalcioMercato reported today...
Despite little contact being made the other day, Lucas Perez's agent, Rodrigo Lovelle, spoke exclusively to Sam Wilson of CalcioMercato.com this morning, confirming that his player could well be on the way out of Arsenal and to West Ham.
Lovelle said, when asked about contact with West Ham: "West Ham is an option, he might leave [Arsenal]"
Then, Lovelle justified the potential move, stating that "West Ham keeps him in London and in the Premier League, and they are a great club."
So, it appears that now a move for Lucas Perez is finally beginning to materialise, in a deal that could see him move across London for as little as €6 million, a fraction of the €20 million Arsenal signed Lucas for from Deportivo.
I can't say I am surprised at this sale, like I was with Chambers' loan, but the Spaniard could be a good buy for the Cottagers. One thing I will say about these deals is that it means that Arsenal don't seriously consider Fulham to be a rival for the Top Six positions!
http://www.justarsenal.com/lucas-perez-also-going-to-fulham-for-just-5million-arsenal-clearout-gathers-pace/135760
Which one is it? West Ham or Fulham??
Perez to West Ham according to G Di Marzio who is usually pretty accurate.
Shame, he could have been useful in a Piazon kind of way.
Report: Fulham agree deal with Arsenal to sign Calum Chambers permanently
Calum Chambers is reportedly moving from Arsenal to Fulham on loan but could stay at Craven Cottage longer than first expected.
Ambitious Fulham might have failed to add Barcelona's coveted Colombia international Yerry Mina to an increasingly impressive squad but the Mail reports that a new centre-back is on his way to Craven Cottage.
It is reported that Arsenal's Calum Chambers will have a medical with the Craven Cottage club today ahead of what is expected to be a season-long loan in West London.
But Football London believe that Chambers could be staying with Fulham for a lot longer than the next nine months. It is reported that a deal has been reached between Arsenal and Fulham for the England U21 ace to sign permanently, most likely at the end of this season.
It is unknown how much Chambers will cost but he is unlikely to come cheap despite his relative lack of action at the Emirates. The Times in June claimed that Arsenal want £22 million for a player they signed from Southampton in 2014 for £16 million.
Chambers, who can also play at right-back, will add further depth to Slavisa Jokanovic's defence after the additions of Alfie Mawson and Maxime Le Marchand earlier in the summer.
And the one-time Middlesbrough loanee will be hoping to get his career back on track at Craven Cottage.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/06/do-report-fulham-agree-deal-with-arsenal-to-sign-callum-chambers/
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 09:25:54 AM
FULHAM AGREE CHAMBERS LOAN
Arsenal centre-back Calum Chambers looks set to join Fulham on a season-long loan.
Sky Sports News understands the two clubs have reached agreement over a loan fee and if personal terms are agreed, the player could undergo a medical later on Monday.
The 23-year old defender agreed a new four-year deal with Arsenal last month.
Here is the Evening Standard Link:
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/calum-chambers-set-for-fulham-medical-as-arsenal-look-at-domagoj-vida-a3904476.html
If needed :)
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2018, 12:46:17 PM
What a strange article
Whoever wrote that garbage needs to find a new career.
Chambers will be a great signing. Got a feeling when Mawson is fit he could be RB. Very good signing for us
I really hope that article is true and we have an option to buy. I really hate having loans that dont have that as a prerequisite. We end up with the Targett situation....
I'd be surprised if that were the case though given that he literally just signed a new contract
Would Mawson and Chambers have played together in the Eng U21s?
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 01:14:28 PM
I really hope that article is true and we have an option to buy. I really hate having loans that dont have that as a prerequisite. We end up with the Targett situation....
I'd be surprised if that were the case though given that he literally just signed a new contract
I'm quite suprised arsenal letting him go anywhere before a ball is kicked in anger,it seems they are so better Fulham than any other club.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 06, 2018, 01:20:51 PM
Would Mawson and Chambers have played together in the Eng U21s?
Played together in Euro U21s 2017 in Poland - All matches played (4)
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I really hope that article is true and we have an option to buy. I really hate having loans that dont have that as a prerequisite. We end up with the Targett situation....
I'd be surprised if that were the case though given that he literally just signed a new contract
I'm quite suprised arsenal letting him go anywhere before a ball is kicked in anger,it seems they are so better Fulham than any other club.
Maybe the new manager simply doesn't fancy him and there's not enough time to finalise the full deal.
He might not be top 4 quality, but he's certainly top 17 quality, and that's what we need.
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Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 01:14:28 PM
I really hope that article is true and we have an option to buy. I really hate having loans that dont have that as a prerequisite. We end up with the Targett situation....
I'd be surprised if that were the case though given that he literally just signed a new contract
I'm quite suprised arsenal letting him go anywhere before a ball is kicked in anger,it seems they are so better Fulham than any other club.
Maybe the new manager simply doesn't fancy him and there's not enough time to finalise the full deal.
He might not be top 4 quality, but he's certainly top 17 quality, and that's what we need.
I agree with that,think he will help us be more clued up at premiership level.
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Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 06, 2018, 01:20:51 PM
Would Mawson and Chambers have played together in the Eng U21s?
Played together in Euro U21s 2017 in Poland - All matches played (4)
Matt Targett and Cauley Woodrow were on the bench. Full reunion coming?
What's happened to Crouchie?
His medical started last Wednesday...😂😂😂
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 06, 2018, 12:03:17 PM
Lucas Perez also going to Fulham for just £5million – Arsenal clearout gathers pace
Just after it was confirmed that the Arsenal defender Calum Chambers was moving to Fulham on loan, we have now heard from Lucas' Perez's agent, who denied any contact with Sporting Lisbon the other day, now admits that his client could be moving across London as well... CalcioMercato reported today...
Despite little contact being made the other day, Lucas Perez's agent, Rodrigo Lovelle, spoke exclusively to Sam Wilson of CalcioMercato.com this morning, confirming that his player could well be on the way out of Arsenal and to West Ham.
Lovelle said, when asked about contact with West Ham: "West Ham is an option, he might leave [Arsenal]"
Then, Lovelle justified the potential move, stating that "West Ham keeps him in London and in the Premier League, and they are a great club."
So, it appears that now a move for Lucas Perez is finally beginning to materialise, in a deal that could see him move across London for as little as €6 million, a fraction of the €20 million Arsenal signed Lucas for from Deportivo.
I can't say I am surprised at this sale, like I was with Chambers' loan, but the Spaniard could be a good buy for the Cottagers. One thing I will say about these deals is that it means that Arsenal don't seriously consider Fulham to be a rival for the Top Six positions!
http://www.justarsenal.com/lucas-perez-also-going-to-fulham-for-just-5million-arsenal-clearout-gathers-pace/135760
Which one is it? West Ham or Fulham??
any (Old)ham will do...... :005:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
What's happened to Crouchie?
His medical started last Wednesday...[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
His medical started several transfer windows ago
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Quote from: Riverside on August 06, 2018, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
What's happened to Crouchie?
His medical started last Wednesday...[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
His medical started several transfer windows ago
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He's next in after Komas and bemtley
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Quote from: Riverside on August 06, 2018, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
What's happened to Crouchie?
His medical started last Wednesday...[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
His medical started several transfer windows ago
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He's next in after Komas and bemtley
Pretty sure Rolans is scheduled between them though
So in all seriousness how many England international's could we have next season with a good campaign?
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Quote from: Riverside on August 06, 2018, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
What's happened to Crouchie?
His medical started last Wednesday...[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
His medical started several transfer windows ago
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
He's next in after Komas and bemtley
Pretty sure Rolans is scheduled between them though
Babel-copter still inbound to Motspur Park?
Crazy idea popped up in my mind. Would you sign Bakayoko on loan. He is the opposite type of dm to Mcdonald and I think he would fit well. Thoughts? 🤔
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 06, 2018, 03:24:43 PM
Crazy idea popped up in my mind. Would you sign Bakayoko on loan. He is the opposite type of dm to Mcdonald and I think he would fit well. Thoughts? 🤔
the opposite type of dm? Does that mean he tries to score own goals as opposed to trying to stop goals going in
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 06, 2018, 03:24:43 PM
Crazy idea popped up in my mind. Would you sign Bakayoko on loan. He is the opposite type of dm to Mcdonald and I think he would fit well. Thoughts? 🤔
Wages would be an issue i'd say. Monaco previously and now Chelsea... Would be a great singing along with Batshuayi... Given a bit of confidence and playing time they would cause top 6 (other than Chelsea) quite some problem. Batshuayi would not fit in though with his rather colourful off field instagram lifestyle.
Brissle city accepted bid for jo Bryan from villa. Shame I was impressed with what I saw of him last season.
Quote from: bobby01 on August 06, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
Brissle city accepted bid for jo Bryan from villa. Shame I was impressed with what I saw of him last season.
Yes good full back,we were interested at one time.
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 06, 2018, 03:24:43 PM
Crazy idea popped up in my mind. Would you sign Bakayoko on loan. He is the opposite type of dm to Mcdonald and I think he would fit well. Thoughts? 🤔
the opposite type of dm? Does that mean he tries to score own goals as opposed to trying to stop goals going in
No hahaha 😂. I meant to say that he is player whose main strength is his speed rather than McDonald's which is positioning. I really liked him at Monaco, and Chelsea already have Kante and Jorginho in his position, so I think he isn't that unrealistic
Wijnaldum Would be my shout, again with Liverpool buying up new midwfiedsrs surely one has to make weight
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Messages from Arsenal fans I know saying they think he'll be a good loan for us (Can't believe he's still only 23)... Lots of gooners claiming he seems to have really come on recently and are surprised he's being loaned out. I think it's a great addition if it comes through, able to cover DM CB and full back if needed. Another who's comfortable passing out from the back... Very useful player to have on the books in my opinion.... I'd say a LB, a striker and we could be ok... Ideally a designated CDM would be great too
I will of course give Chambers the benefit of the doubt if he signs. But our absolute priorities then are a quality LB and (sad as it is to say) an upgrade on KMac. I love the guy but I fear he will be shown up at this level. We need someone that offers his physical presence and ball retention/tactical qualities but with an extra yard of pace.
It's hard to say that about Kmac - we've been lacking a proper back 4 the entire time he's been here, even last year it was always our weak point and he has been an instrumental help and had to carry on additional responsiblility. If you are thinking of when we play Man City and Spurs, you could say that about any of our players.
Quote from: Holders on August 06, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.
Judging by what we've all seen reported, I think there is a good chance we'll pay up for Targett IF we can't find someone better for the same price. The same thing happened with Mitro - after things went quiet, suddenly we were in for Aboukabar and other target type strikers; the one for 26m I can't remember his name, then when that didn't work out, we paid up for Mitro.
Targett you can leave until the last minute, and when it comes to signings this week, taking we get Chambers, Targett as the final addition to the back four would probably be enough for the season as Odoi and Mawson wil lbe available soon.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Wijnaldum Would be my shout, again with Liverpool buying up new midwfiedsrs surely one has to make weight
Can't see anyway he'd get him. Only Salah and Firmino started more games last season than him. Despite the signings he's still a key player for them, especially with Oxlade-Chamberlain injured for the season.
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2018, 05:46:29 PM
One thing slightly concerning me is a lot of Arsenal fans online seem to be saying the reason they're offloading Chambers is the new manager likes CBs with good ball control and passing ability, and Chambers doesn't fall into that category. If that's true, he wouldn't be right for us would he. Are they just talking out their Arsenals as usual? I thought he was supposed to be quite good in that regard, hence him playing as both a full back and CB, rather than just a CB...
I don't think that's the case at all. From what I've seen of him, he's definitely a ball playing CB. if anything lets him down at times, it's his lack of pace compared to top 4 CB's. He's coached from Southampton, he don't coach anything else other than ball playing players. I'm excited over this potential signing.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 06, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
What's happened to Crouchie?
His medical started last Wednesday...😂😂😂
One of the checks was whether he could touch his toes. He is still on his way down to reach them!!
In terms of any departures before the window closes on Thursday night, Hughes added: "I don't think so. We have a lot of interest in a lot of the younger players but they may be best served staying here and waiting for an opportunity."
TARGETT ISNT COMING
I agree I thought they should have been looking at an upgrade to Targett, but they were obviously all in with him hence the 13m bid which is about double his worth.
I really hope they have alternatives that they are close to signing. I'm a bit shocked that Saints turned that money down. Their squad looks poor and needs investment
We just have to give up on Targett, or we'll pay some silly money for him instead of buying a better one for the same price.
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:13:51 PM
I agree I thought they should have been looking at an upgrade to Targett, but they were obviously all in with him hence the 13m bid which is about double his worth.
I really hope they have alternatives that they are close to signing. I'm a bit shocked that Saints turned that money down. Their squad looks poor and needs investment
Theo Hernandez is one of the alternatives. Another rumoured is Jetro Willems.
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2018, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:03:30 PM
In terms of any departures before the window closes on Thursday night, Hughes added: "I don't think so. We have a lot of interest in a lot of the younger players but they may be best served staying here and waiting for an opportunity."
TARGETT ISNT COMING
Thanks Targett for your help last year but this time let's look elsewhere. Even at £10m I'm not sure we'd be getting good value. Certainly it makes £4m for Malone look a bargain and I thought we'd pulled Huddersfield's trousers down at the time. You're never going to get a good deal buying from someone who doesn't want to sell. Next...
Well Mr Ambition is not going to come out & say that he will be selling loads of players this week. He said "I don´t think so" which means he doesn´t know for sure.
Isn't Hernandez going to Sociadad?
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:17:22 PM
Isn't Hernandez going to Sociadad?
Didn't want to pay the full wages last I heard.
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Anyone know how much Arsenal want for Welbeck?
I hope we stay well away from Welbeck
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 06, 2018, 06:42:14 PM
I hope we stay well away from Welbeck
He seems a good fit for the system, and can cover Mitro if needed. If he's the same sort of price as Cavillero....
We can get better fullbacks than Targett.
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2018, 05:46:29 PM
One thing slightly concerning me is a lot of Arsenal fans online seem to be saying the reason they're offloading Chambers is the new manager likes CBs with good ball control and passing ability, and Chambers doesn't fall into that category. If that's true, he wouldn't be right for us would he. Are they just talking out their Arsenals as usual? I thought he was supposed to be quite good in that regard, hence him playing as both a full back and CB, rather than just a CB...
To be fair the Arsenal fans I know say that Chambers is composed and good on the ball.
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
Quote from: WindyCity on August 06, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
Maybe that's why Mitro wanted out!
Quote from: WindyCity on August 06, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
A hard on, maybe Mitro didn't like his homosexual advances and Rafa got upset by the rejection?
Quote from: WindyCity on August 06, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
Mitro was there before Rafa took over - I don't think he ever fancied him, couldn't manage a semi let alone a hard on
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2018, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on August 06, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
A hard on, maybe Mitro didn't like his homosexual advances and Rafa got upset by the rejection?
But he wanted no part of him!
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
Apparently Mitro is difficult to deal with. Joka knows him from Belgrade and knew he could handle him.
Probably just a clash of personalities between Rafa and Mitro.
It happens.
Quote from: WindyCity on August 06, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
Maybe it was a clash of personalities, maybe Rafas Man Management Technique does not sit well with Mitro, which did not bring the best out of him.
I reckon it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I suspect maybe Mitro did not help himself either.
But that's life and human nature.
It appears Mitro has moved on and let it go.
Whereas I get the impression that it's left a bitter taste in Rafas mouth.
Maybe he felt he had tried his best with Mitro and got it slung back in his face.
Maybe Mitro felt he had been poorly treated and did not deserve this treatment.
Unfortunately it can happen in all walks of life.
Certainly we know that Jok is getting the best out of Mitro so far, and Mitro is repaying him by applying himself, and getting his head down football wise.
Whatever happened in the relationship between Mitro and Rafa, it appears that Rafas nose has been put out of joint.
He needs to put it behind him.
Some you win, some you lose.
An unfortunate fact of life.
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Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
Struggling for a pun? #
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Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on August 06, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I'm surprised that Rafa thinks Rondon is an upgrade to Mitrovic. I've never seen Rondon have a good game in the Prem. although I didn't watch every WBA game granted
Hi, I'm new to the forum and Fulham football, been following for about 4-5 years now. My question is why does/did Rafa have such a hard on for Mitro? In all the news articles I've read since promotion, it seems that as good as Mitro is, his coach wanted no part of him. Why?
Maybe it was a clash of personalities, maybe Rafas Man Management Technique does not sit well with Mitro, which did not bring the best out of him.
I reckon it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I suspect maybe Mitro did not help himself either.
But that's life and human nature.
It appears Mitro has moved on and let it go.
Whereas I get the impression that it's left a bitter taste in Rafas mouth.
Maybe he felt he had tried his best with Mitro and got it slung back in his face.
Maybe Mitro felt he had been poorly treated and did not deserve this treatment.
Unfortunately it can happen in all walks of life.
Certainly we know that Jok is getting the best out of Mitro so far, and Mitro is repaying him by applying himself, and getting his head down football wise.
Whatever happened in the relationship between Mitro and Rafa, it appears that Rafas nose has been put out of joint.
He needs to put it behind him.
Some you win, some you lose.
An unfortunate fact of life.
Thx Woolly. Seems like it could have been just that, some kind of personality clash. I do recall reading something about Rafa's particular system of play, and that Mitro had a difficult time subscribing, being somewhat of a loose cannon/free spirit in what was intended to be a more structured system. Anyway, I was really glad to hear that Mitro was coming back to the Cottage. In reading the forum these past several days it seems there is a consensus that our defense is lacking. Hope that can be shored up somehow before first kickoff. Beating Palace at home and on our return to the Prem I think would be imperative and provide a confidence boost moving forward into the early part of the season.
Quote from: FFC NY on August 06, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
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Chambered and ready
Maybe it was a clash of personalities, maybe Rafas Man Management Technique does not sit well with Mitro, which did not bring the best out of him.
I reckon it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I suspect maybe Mitro did not help himself either.
But that's life and human nature.
It appears Mitro has moved on and let it go.
Whereas I get the impression that it's left a bitter taste in Rafas mouth.
Maybe he felt he had tried his best with Mitro and got it slung back in his face.
Maybe Mitro felt he had been poorly treated and did not deserve this treatment.
Unfortunately it can happen in all walks of life.
Certainly we know that Jok is getting the best out of Mitro so far, and Mitro is repaying him by applying himself, and getting his head down football wise.
Whatever happened in the relationship between Mitro and Rafa, it appears that Rafas nose has been put out of joint.
He needs to put it behind him.
Some you win, some you lose.
An unfortunate fact of life.
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Anyone watching Mitro can guess he is not easy to get on with . Managers or CBs
He and Benitez fell out - I make no judgement on whose fault having great respect for both
Joka has confidence in Mitro and Mitro is responding
BUT lets not get carried away . The last such manager player relationship was Jol and Berba . And until today still think Berba cost Jols job by downing arms and abusing the youngsters ( I am grateful though that he invented walking football ).
Let's hope that Mitro continues be motivated !!!
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Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
Probably just a clash of personalities between Rafa and Mitro.
It happens.
Very True....I can't Stand Mince & Tatties!!! :)
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
Quote from: Riverside on August 06, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Maybe it was a clash of personalities, maybe Rafas Man Management Technique does not sit well with Mitro, which did not bring the best out of him.
I reckon it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I suspect maybe Mitro did not help himself either.
But that's life and human nature.
It appears Mitro has moved on and let it go.
Whereas I get the impression that it's left a bitter taste in Rafas mouth.
Maybe he felt he had tried his best with Mitro and got it slung back in his face.
Maybe Mitro felt he had been poorly treated and did not deserve this treatment.
Unfortunately it can happen in all walks of life.
Certainly we know that Jok is getting the best out of Mitro so far, and Mitro is repaying him by applying himself, and getting his head down football wise.
Whatever happened in the relationship between Mitro and Rafa, it appears that Rafas nose has been put out of joint.
He needs to put it behind him.
Some you win, some you lose.
An unfortunate fact of life.
Anyone watching Mitro can guess he is not easy to get on with . Managers or CBs
He and Benitez fell out - I make no judgement on whose fault having great respect for both
Joka has confidence in Mitro and Mitro is responding
BUT lets not get carried away . The last such manager player relationship was Jol and Berba . And until today still think Berba cost Jols job by downing arms and abusing the youngsters ( I am grateful though that he invented walking football ).
Let's hope that Mitro continues be motivated !!!
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[/quote]we will never no re berba and jol,it's history.
I have to say since best,Marsh and Moore I turned up to watch berba in a whites shirt ,I don't give Monkees what the piosen pen writers on here say skill,class and deadly!
I think Berba just came to us at the wrong time and didn't fit our style of play at all. I think sadly he'd be far better for us if we signed him for the way we play now.
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Crouchie is holding them up,he still can't touch his toes after a week of trying.😊
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 06, 2018, 07:45:35 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
Probably just a clash of personalities between Rafa and Mitro.
It happens.
Very True....I can't Stand Mince & Tatties!!! :)
Which one do you think is worse, mince or tatties ?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Was reported mid day on the BBC that everything is sorted with the exception of personal terms yet to be agreed
Hopefully no serious difference there then!
Or are we waiting for a triple announcement tomorrow?
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 06, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Was reported mid day on the BBC that everything is sorted with the exception of personal terms yet to be agreed
Hopefully no serious difference there then!
Or are we waiting for a triple announcement tomorrow?
I hope for triple announcement, only 2 full days left tomorrow
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 06, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
He is at the back of the queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room, behind the rest of the defenders we are hoping to secure.
Was reported mid day on the BBC that everything is sorted with the exception of personal terms yet to be agreed
Hopefully no serious difference there then!
Or are we waiting for a triple announcement tomorrow?
I hope for triple announcement, only 2 full days left tomorrow
Crouch/Bentley/Koumas...oh what a day that would be
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 06, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
Was reported mid day on the BBC that everything is sorted with the exception of personal terms yet to be agreed
Hopefully no serious difference there then!
Or are we waiting for a triple announcement tomorrow?
Isn't it a bit strange that personal terms need to be agreed if it is a loan? Surely Fulham will pay (part of) his wages and that will be it.
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 06, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 06, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
Was reported mid day on the BBC that everything is sorted with the exception of personal terms yet to be agreed
Hopefully no serious difference there then!
Or are we waiting for a triple announcement tomorrow?
Isn't it a bit strange that personal terms need to be agreed if it is a loan? Surely Fulham will pay (part of) his wages and that will be it.
them days are long gone. Thanks to teams like Chelsea, the loan system is now a money making scheme as opposed to a system to give players game time. Loan fees and pay rises are common nowadays
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Quote from: FFC NY on August 06, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
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Surely one in the CHAMBERs
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/besiktas-striker-alvaro-negredo-interesting-fulham-4242971
Honestly, I reckon I could do a better job as a journo.
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Twitter. Pic shows him at the London Eye.
pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj7MohlXgAA6UAX.jpg
see link posted today @ 07:58
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Jokanovic wanted a forward. He would cover the whole line. Superb signing if we can make it happen.
Anyone else hear Meulensteen talking about Fulham's signings on 5 live? Said Seri was an unbelievable signing - top 6 if not top 3 player. Said he reminded him of Clarence Seedorf. High praise indeed!
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Twitter. Pic shows him at the London Eye.
Yes he was in one of those pods that rotate round the wheel, with Hilda the tea lady.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Twitter. Pic shows him at the London Eye.
Yes he was in a pod with Hilda the tea lady.
So is MINCE HILDA??
I'm very confused??
Offencesivly this season believe we will best outside of top 8.defense wise we are going to lack a collective understanding,that's all I'm concerned about
Quote from: KJS on August 06, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj7MohlXgAA6UAX.jpg
see link posted today @ 07:58
Have to admit - looked at this photo and had no clue which one he was.. assuming he's one of them then it'd seem he's in london for a reason. Fulham probably most likely out of London clubs... perhaps may see him in a Fulham car driving down oxford street a la Alfie Mawson.
Quote from: KJS on August 06, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj7MohlXgAA6UAX.jpg
see link posted today @ 07:58
0001.jpeg surely he'd be in training if he was part of the plans at Wolves, hopefully it's another great signing!
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 10:09:12 PM
Quote from: KJS on August 06, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj7MohlXgAA6UAX.jpg
see link posted today @ 07:58
0001.jpeg surely he'd be in training if he was part of the plans at Wolves, hopefully it's another great signing!
One of the other guys in yellow was wolves player aswell
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-braced-dedryck-boyata-bid-13042308?1
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 06, 2018, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Twitter. Pic shows him at the London Eye.
Yes he was in a pod with Hilda the tea lady.
So is MINCE HILDA??
I'm very confused??
So am I, I think he cross dresses. But he gave himself away when he lit up his pipe, when he was waiting to go on the Catwalk.
Is it me, or is this thread just very strange?
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Jokanovic wanted a forward. He would cover the whole line. Superb signing if we can make it happen.
Didn't Wolves turn down a 12m bid from Fulham, back in June ?
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on August 06, 2018, 08:02:01 PM
I think Berba just came to us at the wrong time and didn't fit our style of play at all. I think sadly he'd be far better for us if we signed him for the way we play now.
Berbatov, if he were 30 still, would be the exact signing I'd want. He works the best if everyone else is running their asses off
Quote from: FFC NY on August 06, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: General on August 06, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
Anyone have any insights on what the latest is with Calum chambers
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We have all gone CHAMBERS POTTY
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 06, 2018, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Twitter. Pic shows him at the London Eye.
Yes he was in a pod with Hilda the tea lady.
So is MINCE HILDA??
I'm very confused??
Only on a Tuesday when I go undercover at Motspur to see what's going on.
👰👰👰💃💃💃
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 06, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
Is it me, or is this thread just very strange?
It's the people on here that are strange.👾👾👾👽👽👽👹👹👹😱
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 06, 2018, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 06, 2018, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 06, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 06, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 06, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Wolves close to signing Adama Traore. I know some on here are fans of him but I thought he was the most overrated player in the Championship last season. I'm very glad we didn't go for him to fill our RW spot.
And Cavaleiro photograped in London today as well,
Something happening?
Where have you seen photos? As great as this would be to add to our attacking depth and arguably better than some options we have, we need to prioritise other positions which we all know.
Jokanovic wanted a forward. He would cover the whole line. Superb signing if we can make it happen.
Didn't Wolves turn down a 12m bid from Fulham, back in June ?
That's what I thought. If he is coming we must have gone in with a bigger bid and they must be selling as buying Traore.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 06, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
Is it me, or is this thread just very strange?
Nope, definitely not just you thinking its a bit weird :022:
Is this be best Window we EVER hat ??
It`s a really crazy world today !!! Over here in Germany our promoted clubs Like Düsseldorf or Nürnberg spend about 5 Mio TOGETHER !!!
Quote from: Flupp on August 07, 2018, 07:38:11 AM
Is this be best Window we EVER hat ??
It`s a really crazy world today !!! Over here in Germany our promoted clubs Like Düsseldorf or Nürnberg spend about 5 Mio TOGETHER !!!
Sean Dyche got it right when he said the other day the fees being asked by some clubs and the wages some players demand have become obscene..
Barry Douglas went to Leeds for ~£4m, Joe Bryan off somewhere for £6m. Two of the best LBs in the Championship last year. Do you think we've missed a trick not going for either of them considering they look to be at least half the price of what Targett may cost? Or should we be aiming higher?
Quote from: Sherlock on August 07, 2018, 07:50:46 AM
Barry Douglas went to Leeds for ~£4m, Joe Bryan off somewhere for £6m. Two of the best LBs in the Championship last year. Do you think we've missed a trick not going for either of them considering they look to be at least half the price of what Targett may cost? Or should we be aiming higher?
I think we can get better than both of these players. Although Douglas would have been a good acquisition I feel.
Is this the calm before the storm breaks and FFC sign every player we need in record time? I am thinking 4-5 incoming.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 06, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
Is it me, or is this thread just very strange?
It's definitely you, nothing that a visit from the District Nurse won't cure, we will arrange to send one round three times a day after meals.
As for the rest of us we are fine and dandy.
In the meantime keep taking your Viagra.
Quote from: @jolslover on August 07, 2018, 08:02:41 AM
Quote from: Sherlock on August 07, 2018, 07:50:46 AM
Barry Douglas went to Leeds for ~£4m, Joe Bryan off somewhere for £6m. Two of the best LBs in the Championship last year. Do you think we've missed a trick not going for either of them considering they look to be at least half the price of what Targett may cost? Or should we be aiming higher?
I think we can get better than both of these players. Although Douglas would have been a good acquisition I feel.
If Wolves were happy to see him go, and he was happy to drop down a tier, you put 2 and 2 together, and you get a player where both feel he isn't ready for the PL.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 07, 2018, 08:13:55 AM
Is this the calm before the storm breaks and FFC sign every player we need in record time? I am thinking 4-5 incoming.
They are forming an orderly queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 07, 2018, 07:50:41 AM
Quote from: Flupp on August 07, 2018, 07:38:11 AM
Is this be best Window we EVER hat ??
It`s a really crazy world today !!! Over here in Germany our promoted clubs Like Düsseldorf or Nürnberg spend about 5 Mio TOGETHER !!!
Sean Dyche got it right when he said the other day the fees being asked by some clubs and the wages some players demand have become obscene..
Its called inflation. Hard to lose out when your own players will also increase in value.
@FulhamFC has forwarded a loan offer with purchase option to the @ASSEofficiel for #OleSelnaes. Offer refused. The English mercato closes in 48h, you have to expect everything!
Source: @ManuLonjon
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2018, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 06, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
Is it me, or is this thread just very strange?
It's definitely you, nothing that a visit from the District Nurse won't cure, we will arrange to send one round three times a day after meals.
As for the rest of us we are fine and dandy.
In the meantime keep taking your Viagra.
Exhibit A
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 07, 2018, 08:39:27 AM
@FulhamFC has forwarded a loan offer with purchase option to the @ASSEofficiel for #OleSelnaes. Offer refused. The English mercato closes in 48h, you have to expect everything!
Source: @ManuLonjon
I tried to translate the tweets, but it did not make much sense in Norwegian :)
I guess Fulham tried to sign him on loan. St Etienne refused and told Fulham they need to buy him (his contract expire 2020). I really hope we can sign him, excellent player (only 24 years old).
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 07, 2018, 08:44:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2018, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 06, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
Is it me, or is this thread just very strange?
It's definitely you, nothing that a visit from the District Nurse won't cure, we will arrange to send one round three times a day after meals.
As for the rest of us we are fine and dandy.
In the meantime keep taking your Viagra.
Exhibit A
QED
We need to sound the alarm. We need three or four in three days. Ain't gonna happen. Badly need a back up striker and a left back.
The potential Selnaes transfer is now the top story on my local newspaper adressa.no :)
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
We need to sound the alarm. We need three or four in three days. Ain't gonna happen. Badly need a back up striker and a left back.
How do you know it wont? The majority of deadline day deals are prepped weeks in advance and usually only require the final touches to the deal and a medical.
It is all well and good talking about who is coming in but we need to make sure no one leaves!
Quote from: Hoppus on August 07, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
The potential Selnaes transfer is now the top story on my local newspaper adressa.no :)
What does it say? Will it happen or no?
Quote from: cookieg on August 07, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
It is all well and good talking about who is coming in but we need to make sure no one leaves!
I can't see anyone leaving minus maybe Fonte (if we get another striker) and Woodrow.
Quote from: river phoenix on August 07, 2018, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: Hoppus on August 07, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
The potential Selnaes transfer is now the top story on my local newspaper adressa.no :)
What does it say? Will it happen or no?
It said we will be back with a new bid, that we got a loan deal (with option to buy) turned down.
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-leeds-fulham-swansea-all-in-hunt-for-former-wednesday-star
EXCLUSIVE: Leeds, Fulham, Swansea in hunt for former Wednesday star
Fulham, Leeds United and Swansea City are leading the chase to sign free agent midfielder Sean Clare, TEAMtalk can exclusively reveal.
The 21-year-old left Sheffield Wednesday last month when his contract expired at Hillsborough, after he rejected the chance to stay.
Aston Villa had tied up a deal, but their financial issues earlier this summer saw the deal fall through.
Whilst Villa remain keen, their failure to push through the move has seen rivals step in, and now a number of other clubs have stepped in to hold talks with Clare.
The 21-year-old Clare came through the youth ranks at Wednesday, after joining from the Nike Academy in 2016, but now he is set to leave after rejecting a new deal.
Because Clare is under 23, Wednesday will be due compensation, but it will be nowhere near Clare's actual value.
Leeds have held a long-standing interest in Clare, and their need has increased following an injury sustained by Adam Forshaw that will see the midfielder sidelined for up to eight weeks.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 10:31:12 AM
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-leeds-fulham-swansea-all-in-hunt-for-former-wednesday-star
EXCLUSIVE: Leeds, Fulham, Swansea in hunt for former Wednesday star
Fulham, Leeds United and Swansea City are leading the chase to sign free agent midfielder Sean Clare, TEAMtalk can exclusively reveal.
The 21-year-old left Sheffield Wednesday last month when his contract expired at Hillsborough, after he rejected the chance to stay.
Aston Villa had tied up a deal, but their financial issues earlier this summer saw the deal fall through.
Whilst Villa remain keen, their failure to push through the move has seen rivals step in, and now a number of other clubs have stepped in to hold talks with Clare.
The 21-year-old Clare came through the youth ranks at Wednesday, after joining from the Nike Academy in 2016, but now he is set to leave after rejecting a new deal.
Because Clare is under 23, Wednesday will be due compensation, but it will be nowhere near Clare's actual value.
Leeds have held a long-standing interest in Clare, and their need has increased following an injury sustained by Adam Forshaw that will see the midfielder sidelined for up to eight weeks.
Out of interest, why would we be interested? Is he one for the future, backup?
Soon as you get Wednesday here the clock will get ticking faster and faster .
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 07, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
We need to sound the alarm. We need three or four in three days. Ain't gonna happen. Badly need a back up striker and a left back.
How do you know it wont? The majority of deadline day deals are prepped weeks in advance and usually only require the final touches to the deal and a medical.
Agree... It takes many nights for the overnight success :003:
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Harvey Knibbs, Aston Villa under 23's ........banging them in at a decent level and cheap !!
Quote from: Luka on August 07, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Harvey Knibbs, Aston Villa under 23's ........banging them in at a decent level and cheap !!
Don't we already have players who have banged them in for fun at that level in our current setup though...
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 07, 2018, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Luka on August 07, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Harvey Knibbs, Aston Villa under 23's ........banging them in at a decent level and cheap !!
Don't we already have players who have banged them in for fun at that level in our current setup though...
If it';s backup to Mitro, we really shouold be after the Perezs of the world. Decent players who score goals and who can offer something different. Not under 23 from the championship, lets see him play for Villa first before we get excited. Also 14 in 41 isn't particularly impressive.
Quote from: Luka on August 07, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Harvey Knibbs, Aston Villa under 23's ........banging them in at a decent level and cheap !!
Perhaps they can give him to us for free as they owe us £6m
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Quote from: bencher on August 06, 2018, 08:41:59 PM
Crouch/Bentley/Koumas...oh what a day that would be
personally I'm looking forward to Carlton Cole signing
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 07, 2018, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Luka on August 07, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Harvey Knibbs, Aston Villa under 23's ........banging them in at a decent level and cheap !!
Don't we already have players who have banged them in for fun at that level in our current setup though...
If it';s backup to Mitro, we really shouold be after the Perezs of the world. Decent players who score goals and who can offer something different. Not under 23 from the championship, lets see him play for Villa first before we get excited. Also 14 in 41 isn't particularly impressive.
I agree. I was more pointing to the fact we have players currently in our setup that have achieved exactly what this guy has and a lot of them seem to struggle to make the jump even to championship.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 07, 2018, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 07, 2018, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Luka on August 07, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 07, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 07, 2018, 11:10:45 AM
Gayle to Brom on loan, would have been a nice addition for us.
I think we'd perfer a striker who scores goals...
Harvey Knibbs, Aston Villa under 23's ........banging them in at a decent level and cheap !!
Don't we already have players who have banged them in for fun at that level in our current setup though...
If it';s backup to Mitro, we really shouold be after the Perezs of the world. Decent players who score goals and who can offer something different. Not under 23 from the championship, lets see him play for Villa first before we get excited. Also 14 in 41 isn't particularly impressive.
I agree. I was more pointing to the fact we have players currently in our setup that have achieved exactly what this guy has and a lot of them seem to struggle to make the jump even to championship.
Absolutely, sorry I was agreeing with you - though my writing style doesn't always make that clear. Id rather Thorsteinsson came through for us rather than this guy.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 10:31:12 AM
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-leeds-fulham-swansea-all-in-hunt-for-former-wednesday-star
EXCLUSIVE: Leeds, Fulham, Swansea in hunt for former Wednesday star
Fulham, Leeds United and Swansea City are leading the chase to sign free agent midfielder Sean Clare, TEAMtalk can exclusively reveal.
The 21-year-old left Sheffield Wednesday last month when his contract expired at Hillsborough, after he rejected the chance to stay.
Aston Villa had tied up a deal, but their financial issues earlier this summer saw the deal fall through.
Whilst Villa remain keen, their failure to push through the move has seen rivals step in, and now a number of other clubs have stepped in to hold talks with Clare.
The 21-year-old Clare came through the youth ranks at Wednesday, after joining from the Nike Academy in 2016, but now he is set to leave after rejecting a new deal.
Because Clare is under 23, Wednesday will be due compensation, but it will be nowhere near Clare's actual value.
Leeds have held a long-standing interest in Clare, and their need has increased following an injury sustained by Adam Forshaw that will see the midfielder sidelined for up to eight weeks.
Talented player, highly rated and have heard good things about him, could be one to join and then go back out on loan again
Scott Malone was sold on 5th July 2017 and we STILL have not signed a permanent replacement left back.
Pretty poor showing from the recruitment team...
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
Scott Malone was sold on 5th July 2017 and we STILL have not signed a permanent replacement left back.
Pretty poor showing from the recruitment team...
took two years to replace our main striker
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
We might have signed some superstars but we still have some gaping holes to fill.....
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
When talking about signing a permanent left back, yes.
Yes, TerryR, if you consider the evidence, it is a 'poor showing'. Let's consider the scenario at its worse last season where the debates on here were about not playing RS at left back and yet what options did SJ have when none of the solutions tried actually rewarded us with continued success and good performances? Lo and behold come Matt Targett and the solution was 'sign a left back' as it had been since Scott Malone was sold to Huddersfield. Nearly ten weeks later from last season's close we still haven't got a bespoke left back. Figure.
We do seem to be top heavy in the attacking department compared to the defence, and in my opinion it seems to happen every transfer window.
Not sure if you remember Two Ton Ted but we had some kid, now what was his name, Robert Sessylon or something. He was our left back after Malone left, we didn't need a replacement until it was realised that he was more potent on the wing. Then we got Targett...in my opinion, not a bad player - or do you disagree?
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
Scott Malone was sold on 5th July 2017 and we STILL have not signed a permanent replacement left back.
Pretty poor showing from the recruitment team...
Easy Ted.
It took us 4 seasons to get a No. 9.
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Just read on twitter, Fulham have bid 10 million for Celta Vigo right back Hugo Mallo. Not sure if true...
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Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Just read on twitter, Fulham have bid 10 million for Celta Vigo right back Hugo Mallo. Not sure if true...
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Wrong side...Jesus!!!!
Why does our last three days of the transfer window always feel like the last minute of the Benny Hill show?
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Just read on twitter, Fulham have bid 10 million for Celta Vigo right back Hugo Mallo. Not sure if true...
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Wrong side...Jesus!!!!
He can play left back as well, and even if they want him as a RB he's an upgrade on Christie
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
We might have signed some superstars but we still have some gaping holes to fill.....
Agreed. Whilst signing loans worked wonders in the Championship it's given others a head start as far as squad building goes for the new season.
Still need a DM, CF, LB at the bare minimum. And get the impression we may be going for another winger, CB (chambers?), and RB.
Hugo vallo
Calum chambers
Hector herrera
And three more.. three days left.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 07, 2018, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Just read on twitter, Fulham have bid 10 million for Celta Vigo right back Hugo Mallo. Not sure if true...
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Wrong side...Jesus!!!!
He can play left back as well, and even if they want him as a RB he's an upgrade on Christie
There's another issue in itself. Why the hell did we buy Christie half way through last season? It seems nobody rates him. Surely we had a scout or two follow him around?
Quote from: General on August 07, 2018, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
We might have signed some superstars but we still have some gaping holes to fill.....
Agreed. Whilst signing loans worked wonders in the Championship it's given others a head start as far as squad building goes for the new season.
Still need a DM, CF, LB at the bare minimum. And get the impression we may be going for another winger, CB (chambers?), and RB.
Hugo vallo
Calum chambers
Hector herrera
And three more.. three days left.
Backup striker. Fonte is a bust.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/midfielder-coveted-fulham-needs-crazy-offer-convince-ligue-1-club/
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 07, 2018, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 07, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
Just read on twitter, Fulham have bid 10 million for Celta Vigo right back Hugo Mallo. Not sure if true...
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Wrong side...Jesus!!!!
He can play left back as well, and even if they want him as a RB he's an upgrade on Christie
There's another issue in itself. Why the hell did we buy Christie half way through last season? It seems nobody rates him. Surely we had a scout or two follow him around?
Christie was a genius signing. He was available for a really good price. Had we not been promoted he would easily be good enough first choice for the championship and with promotion he is a dependable back up RB for the PL. The club must have known Fredericks was leaving - great signing IMO
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/07/do-report-fulham-preparing-12m-dedryck-boyata-bid-as-celtic-reje/#click=https://t.co/t80BkIrVVE
Quote from: CM on August 07, 2018, 12:22:25 PM
Not sure if you remember Two Ton Ted but we had some kid, now what was his name, Robert Sessylon or something. He was our left back after Malone left, we didn't need a replacement until it was realised that he was more potent on the wing. Then we got Targett...in my opinion, not a bad player - or do you disagree?
I do remember we didn't get a replacement in so had to play a 17 year old (albeit fortunately a very talented 17 year old) at left back until we secured a loan deal at the end of the Jan transfer window, when we would play Sessylon in a preferred position which reaped great rewards, yes...
But we still don't have a specialist left back. No doubt our Head Coach will not be too happy if that is still the case on Friday.
Quote from: FFC NY on August 07, 2018, 01:04:35 PM
Christie was a genius signing. He was available for a really good price. Had we not been promoted he would easily be good enough first choice for the championship and with promotion he is a dependable back up RB for the PL. The club must have known Fredericks was leaving - great signing IMO
I'd agree with all that. The Club knew Fredericks had sorted himself a move to West Ham, Christie was clearly not wanted by that football genius Pulis, so go in the replacement early enough to bide his time until he stepped up in the first XI.
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
That's a bonkers statement if ever I've heard one!
Its only an amazing window if we end up with quality in all positions with decent cover as well.
I suggest you study the current player roster.
Of course we could perform well while making do by playing players out of position but its not how we would have hoped to start the season.
So "amazing window" it ain't..........Yet!
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: FFC NY on August 07, 2018, 01:04:35 PM
Christie was a genius signing. He was available for a really good price. Had we not been promoted he would easily be good enough first choice for the championship and with promotion he is a dependable back up RB for the PL. The club must have known Fredericks was leaving - great signing IMO
I'd agree with all that. The Club knew Fredericks had sorted himself a move to West Ham, Christie was clearly not wanted by that football genius Pulis, so go in the replacement early enough to bide his time until he stepped up in the first XI.
I wouldn't say "genius" until I've seem him play more and tested in the PL. However, it is a rare and proper example of sensible succession planning.
I'm bored. Sign players FFC!
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
Why does our last three days of the transfer window always feel like the last minute of the Benny Hill show?
I often wish it was like Groundhog Day when you at least know that after so many attempts at getting things right going wrong there'll actually be one when it all goes to plan.
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2018, 12:56:56 PM
SkyBet relegation odds still have us going down with Cardiff and Huddersfield.
That's despite spending £80m.
Wolves, who were a poorer team for most of last season, have spent less money on less impactful signings and are still being predicted to finish in the top 10.
I think that shows you that whilst we've done a very good job with the front of the team, the other half (arguably the more important half when you're at the bottom of the table) is still shocking and going to be very challenging to improve in the next 51 hours.
Obviously the odds are just driven by punters' opinions but the big force comes from experts who know what they're doing, not the odd mug in the pub.
Don't read too much into those odds.
We're joint 3rd with Watford at 15/8. Brighton aren't that much better at 9/4 and Burnley hanging around at 7/2 with Bournemouth at 9/2. Nothing really between them. Compare that with Chelsea (500/1) ten times as likely to go down as Man City at 5000/1.
Only Cardiff are odds on to be relegated. The rest from Palace (11/2) down are pretty close.
10m+ for Boyata is mental....he might well of played for Belgium but hes been largely dreadful for Celtic.....
Being reported that Burnley are going for Bolasie for 15m....seems a reasonable fee to me.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 07, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
Why does our last three days of the transfer window always feel like the last minute of the Benny Hill show?
I often wish it was like Groundhog Day when you at least know that after so many attempts at getting things right going wrong there'll actually be one when it all goes to plan.
I've no idea at all what's meant by groundhog day but I used to reassure my customers that "in any job there's always something that goes right".
Now he's got over his injury, i wouldn't see JR as a bad acquisition.
13:19
BURNLEY BACK IN J-ROD HUNT
Sky Sports News understands Burnley will make an improved £18m offer to West Brom for striker Jay Rodriguez later today.
Sean Dyche is becoming increasingly frustrated by the situation and wants a new striker in before the deadline - it's thought Rodriguez is keen on a move back to the Premier League in his home town, but is prepared to stay and try to get Albion back into the top division if a deal can't be done.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 07, 2018, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
That's a bonkers statement if ever I've heard one!
Its only an amazing window if we end up with quality in all positions with decent cover as well.
I suggest you study the current player roster.
Of course we could perform well while making do by playing players out of position but its not how we would have hoped to start the season.
So "amazing window" it ain't..........Yet!
It certainly hasn't been amazing in terms of the extent of the signings thus far as we have far too many gaps in our squad. To be fair, I do think you could say that the quality of the signings thus far have been pretty damned good.
Yet more sloppy journalism, however it doesn't bode well for getting him. When does the Scot Prem window close?
13:37
CELTIC REJECT BOYATA BID
Brendan Rodgers has been speaking ahead of Celtic's game with AEK Athens tomorrow night (preview here), and confirmed Fulham have rejected a firm bid for Dredryk Boyata.
Rodgers said the Bhoys had knocked back the bid because "it would be very difficult for us to replace him at this late stage".
Quote from: the nutflush on August 07, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
Why does our last three days of the transfer window always feel like the last minute of the Benny Hill show?
:005:
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 01:45:27 PM
Yet more sloppy journalism, however it doesn't bode well for getting him. When does the Scot Prem window close?
13:37
CELTIC REJECT BOYATA BID
Brendan Rodgers has been speaking ahead of Celtic's game with AEK Athens tomorrow night (preview here), and confirmed Fulham have rejected a firm bid for Dredryk Boyata.
Rodgers said the Bhoys had knocked back the bid because "it would be very difficult for us to replace him at this late stage".
Nice to see that it is Fulham rejecting the bid.... :012:
Send them Djalo on loan....
Quote from: mkras99 on August 07, 2018, 01:04:13 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/midfielder-coveted-fulham-needs-crazy-offer-convince-ligue-1-club/
"The Premier League newcomers" My arsenal!
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 01:45:27 PM
Yet more sloppy journalism, however it doesn't bode well for getting him. When does the Scot Prem window close?
13:37
CELTIC REJECT BOYATA BID
Brendan Rodgers has been speaking ahead of Celtic's game with AEK Athens tomorrow night (preview here), and confirmed Fulham have rejected a firm bid for Dredryk Boyata.
Rodgers said the Bhoys had knocked back the bid because "it would be very difficult for us to replace him at this late stage".
Why are we bidding for Boyata if we have Chambers? Is all not well with the loan?
Quote from: TerryR on August 07, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Really?
Poor showing???
This has been an amazing window so far and it's still not over
Quality? Absolutely.
Quantity? Lacking.
Quote from: lomotd on August 07, 2018, 02:23:45 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 01:45:27 PM
Yet more sloppy journalism, however it doesn't bode well for getting him. When does the Scot Prem window close?
13:37
CELTIC REJECT BOYATA BID
Brendan Rodgers has been speaking ahead of Celtic's game with AEK Athens tomorrow night (preview here), and confirmed Fulham have rejected a firm bid for Dredryk Boyata.
Rodgers said the Bhoys had knocked back the bid because "it would be very difficult for us to replace him at this late stage".
Why are we bidding for Boyata if we have Chambers? Is all not well with the loan?
Depth of squad i would imagine, unless Djalo is good enough.Also remember that Chambers has experience at RB, so if Christie gets injured we have an alternative to S.Sess.
Jordan Ajew of Swansea has refused to train with the club. Fulham had a bid turned down for him a few months ago. A few other clubs have since shown interest including Palace.
http://eldesmarque.com/malaga/malaga-cf/malaga-noticias/161566-leganes-y-fulham-pujan-por-en-nesyri
One of the names that takes more time in the limelight is that of Youssef En-Nesyri. All the options are open for the young Moroccan striker, who finished the League at a good level and who scored a good header against Spain in the few minutes he had at the World Cup in Russia. The demotion caused a reduction in his file, which was not going to be applied in his case (he has the lowest salaries) and also in his clause, which went down from 20 to ten million euros.
This situation caused the interest of several clubs, especially the Leganés , which has already made several offers for him and has intensified negotiations in recent days. As he spoke on Monday of 'principle of agreement' for a total amount of about six million, although his offer is not the only one to date for the Moroccan, the Fulham of the Premier has joined the bid . The closing of the market in England next Thursday at 6:00 p.m. will resolve a quick solution to this incipient interest.
currently our back four for the first two games of the season is:
Sessegnon R - Ream - Le Marchand - Christie
Djalo, Sessegnon S and Fossey ready to step in if required.
sky sports bird outside craven cottage just said more business expected to be done. she's reporting live from there
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
currently our back four for the first two games of the season is:
Sessegnon R - Ream - Le Marchand - Christie
Djalo, Sessegnon S and Fossey ready to step in if required.
Which is precisely why many on here remain nervous despite some good signings made so far.
According to Marca, Barcelona wants to get rid of 6 players in the next 48 hours. Here is the list of players: Yerry Mina, Andre Gomes, Paco Alcacer, Jasper Cillessen, Marlon Santos and Rafinha Alcantara. I think Andre Gomes or Rafinha would be dream signings. They are way better than McDonald and would go straight into our starting lineup, they are also still pretty young(only 25),but they are probably too expensive. Yerri Mina is a player I really like, but he is apparently going to some "bigger" English club and I think we now don't need him because both him and Mawson are too good to be on the bench. I think we shouldn't go for Cillessen because we already have two pretty good goalkeepers and I wouldn't like either of them to be third choice keeper. Paco Alcacer would also be a very good signing and a more than adequate Mitro backup(he is only 24 too) . As for Marlon Santos I would consider buying him too, as he is still only 22 and can probably still improve.
To sum it up I would buy either one of Gomes/Rafinha, Alcacer and Marlon Santos if the price was right. Thoughts? 🤔
Quote from: Twig on August 07, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
currently our back four for the first two games of the season is:
Sessegnon R - Ream - Le Marchand - Christie
Djalo, Sessegnon S and Fossey ready to step in if required.
Which is precisely why many on here remain nervous despite some good signings made so far.
It's also why some of us have been saying all summer, "you build from the back "
Another slow start ahead before we pick up speed later on again.
Quote from: Riversider on August 07, 2018, 04:26:56 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 07, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
currently our back four for the first two games of the season is:
Sessegnon R - Ream - Le Marchand - Christie
Djalo, Sessegnon S and Fossey ready to step in if required.
Which is precisely why many on here remain nervous despite some good signings made so far.
It's also why some of us have been saying all summer, "you build from the back "
Another slow start ahead before we pick up speed later on again.
I will give it the benefit of the doubt till deadline day but I fear you could be right Riversider.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 07, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
sky sports bird outside craven cottage just said more business expected to be done. she's reporting live from there
Isn't she in the wrong place? Don't the deals get done at Motspur Park?
Quote from: Jem on August 07, 2018, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 07, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
sky sports bird outside craven cottage just said more business expected to be done. she's reporting live from there
Isn't she in the wrong place? Don't the deals get done at Motspur Park?
No wonder we haven't signed anyone recently!!
Hope they have a couple of thermal flasks!
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
currently our back four for the first two games of the season is:
Sessegnon R - Ream - Le Marchand - Christie
Djalo, Sessegnon S and Fossey ready to step in if required.
What happened to Chambers?
Quote from: St Eve on August 07, 2018, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 07, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
currently our back four for the first two games of the season is:
Sessegnon R - Ream - Le Marchand - Christie
Djalo, Sessegnon S and Fossey ready to step in if required.
What happened to Chambers?
We haven't signed him.
[/quote] What happened to Chambers?
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We haven't signed him.
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Yet ?
Or its not going to happen ?
Anyone know ?
Quote from: Riverside on August 07, 2018, 05:29:36 PM
What happened to Chambers?
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We haven't signed him.
[/quote]
Yet ?
Or its not going to happen ?
Anyone know ?
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Not yet,
Apparently the Sky reporter went to the Cottage instead of Motspur Park.
Hilda says, only one lorry load of tea bags has been through the gates all day.
Anyone know if Hilda's heard about our LB? Or are we just going to skip that position this season?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2018, 05:34:13 PM
Quote from: Riverside on August 07, 2018, 05:29:36 PM
What happened to Chambers?
We haven't signed him.
[/quote]
Yet ?
Or its not going to happen ?
Anyone know ?
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Not yet,
Apparently the Sky reporter went to the Cottage instead of Motspur Park.
Hilda says, only one lorry load of tea bags has been through the gates all day.
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And they were sent back as they were PG Tips.
She only Uses Yorkshire T Bags.☕☕☕
yesterday, 12:37 pm
Alleged Fulham interest in Willems - but no offer
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Jetro Willems should have aroused the interest of FC Fulham. But Eintracht Frankfurt sports director Bruno Hübner made it clear that there is no offer for the left-back. Willems came 23 times in the Bundesliga and six times in the Cup last season.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 07, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
sky sports bird outside craven cottage just said more business expected to be done. she's reporting live from there
Possibly the most conservative and uninformative thing to say.. people get paid so much for saying nothing these days.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 06:57:07 PM
Willems came 23 times in the Bundesliga and six times in the Cup last season.
You just know Woolly will be all over this statement!! :)
What? All over the statement??
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 07, 2018, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 06:57:07 PM
Willems came 23 times in the Bundesliga and six times in the Cup last season.
You just know Woolly will be all over this statement!! :)
Do we really want someone who only hits the cup 26% of the time? Sounds kind of messy......and gross.
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2018, 07:28:44 PM
Clock beginning to tick very loudly... less than 46 hours to plug several gaping holes and imbalances in the team
Rodgers has confirmed we bid for Boyata but they don't have time now to replace him because we've left it so late.
Think we could rue signing no one through June and most of July, could undermine the whole project
If we could've done business earlier, we would've.
In fact, most didn't.
Daily Star reporting Everton and possibly Wolves are interested in signing Danny Rose.
If those two can go for him so should we even though he won't be cheap.
Proven Prem quality player and England international.
I would have him over any of those other left back players we have been linked eith.
Imagine him and Ryan down that left side.
Chambers just on a fulham tweet video
Chambers will be an excellent signing. No mention of an option to buy, which is sad
TK's account has Chambers up:
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1026906666443464704
After the playoff final I was hoping for, but not expecting, 9 decent signings. Looks as though it could happen, well done FFC.
Quote from: grandad on August 07, 2018, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2018, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 07, 2018, 08:11:45 PM
another sky sports bird has just said chambers has been officially confirmed.
Lol
Can we please refer to the Sky ladies as totty . Much nicer than bird. Unless it is Claire Balding.
The world has gone PC crazy
Any news on our next target (Targett?)?
A top notch LB & we can say this has been the best window in years. Need to leave a bit in the kitty for January in case of any long term injuries.
Quote from: Milo on August 07, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
Any news on our next target (Targett?)?
If we can get Targett, or another left back, it will be Bullseye 🎯
I feel this is imperative.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 07, 2018, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 07, 2018, 06:57:07 PM
Willems came 23 times in the Bundesliga and six times in the Cup last season.
You just know Woolly will be all over this statement!! :)
He needs to quadruple his intake of Viagra tablets.
Not sure if it was a wind up but allegedly Guivalogui was at Motspur yesterday according to someone on TiFF, although I reckon f he was mainstream media would've caught wind of it by now, but you never know it could've been legit
Also with Jordan Ayew going on strike at Swansea it might make his price go down, so could be a one to watch as a deadline day utility signing as a backup winger/striker??
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/celtic-s-dedryck-boyata-posts-cryptic-message-amid-interest-from-fulham-1-4780249
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 07, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
Any news on our next target (Targett?)?
If we can get Targett, or another left back, it will be Bullseye 🎯
I feel this is imperative.
Woolly, just interested. Do you think Targett can cut it in the Prem?
Is this not a transfer thread ? Can we keep to topic please ladies and gents ?
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 07, 2018, 08:50:02 PM
Not sure if it was a wind up but allegedly Guivalogui was at Motspur yesterday according to someone on TiFF, although I reckon f he was mainstream media would've caught wind of it by now, but you never know it could've been legit
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Was one of the blokes who knew about Chambers having trained and had his photos done, so I reckon itcould have been legit
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Not sure if it was a wind up but allegedly Guivalogui was at Motspur yesterday according to someone on TiFF, although I reckon f he was mainstream media would've caught wind of it by now, but you never know it could've been legit
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Was one of the blokes who knew about Chambers having trained and had his photos done, so I reckon itcould have been legit
Hopefully true. Would be a great addition.
Saw this posted around the same time as the Chambers announcement:
Transfer Primary
@RenaissanceArti
43m43 minutes ago
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BREAKING: #Arsenal have agreed a prerequisite deal with Besiktas for defender Domagoj Vida for around £18m depending on whether Calum Chambers joins Fulham before Thursday's deadline. #AFC #FFC
Very few followers. So, probably a bunch of hot air but,..... It could signal that there is the possibility of signing Chambers at the end of the season, if Vida comes in.
Quote from: Twig on August 07, 2018, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: Milo on August 07, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
Any news on our next target (Targett?)?
If we can get Targett, or another left back, it will be Bullseye 🎯
I feel this is imperative.
Woolly, just interested. Do you think Targett can cut it in the Prem?
I could not say 100% if he can. But you could probably ask that of a few of our players who will be playing on Saturday. You never know for sure until they play there.
In the absence of an alternative, he knows our system, is familiar with the club, is at a good young age, and shows promise.
It appears Jok and the club see something in him, hence the reason why they are still pursuing him, with their attempts to get him on board, and at the same time Southampton appear to be happy to keep him so far.
So unless Fulham have an alternative lined up who is as good or better, I would be more than happy to see Targett in a Fulham shirt again, especially as time is not on our side.
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:54:Quote from: Deeping_white on August 07, 2018, 08:50:02 PM
Not sure if it was a wind up but allegedly Guivalogui was at Motspur yesterday according to someone on TiFF, although I reckon f he was mainstream media would've caught wind of it by now, but you never know it could've been legit
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Was one of the blokes who knew about Chambers having trained and had his photos done, so I reckon itcould have been legit
Hopefully true. Would be a great addition.
Didn't sky run a story on this a few weeks back?
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Quote from: Rambler on August 07, 2018, 09:49:01 PM
Any chance we could keep this to transfers?
I doubt that very much!
But here goes.....
Chelsea want to spend £70m+ on a Goalkeeper.... Called Kepa!! :) You could not make it up!!
How far beyond the Thursday deadline does the loan window stay open? Or does it close at the same time?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 07, 2018, 10:43:36 PM
How far beyond the Thursday deadline does the loan window stay open? Or does it close at the same time?
5pm
FIFA's official deadline is the August 31, but for English clubs the official closing time is at 5pm on Thursday August 9,
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IMHO, our most important need is a LB. A backup striker would be nice but I don't feel is all that critical. I think AK47 is going to blossom this year and could fill in for Mitro. Learning how to muscle a defender shouldn't be that hard for him, given his size. He already has the pace and nose for goal. I like Fonte, just not as a footballer. I don't see him making a contribution this season.
Course, I choose not to be negative.
Quote from: spikey norman on August 07, 2018, 07:44:35 PM
Daily Star reporting Everton and possibly Wolves are interested in signing Danny Rose.
If those two can go for him so should we even though he won't be cheap.
Proven Prem quality player and England international.
I would have him over any of those other left back players we have been linked eith.
Imagine him and Ryan down that left side.
Yes, a no brainer. I have been thinking that all along. He must be too old.
The Sun is claiming that Celtic are 'monitoring' Man. City centre-back Jason Denayer's situation.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3038157/emilio-izaguirre-celtic-parkhead-return-jason-denayer/
Boyata to us not necessarily 'dead in the water' - despite Brendan Rogers' comment?
If we don't bring in a defensive mid considerably better than McDonald, a lot of the good work we've done will be wasted because we'll get steamrolled in the center of the pitch. I expect both that and a LB before 5pm Thursday, as well as a good chance of some loan for another striker.
Quote from: Statto on August 07, 2018, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 07, 2018, 10:58:11 PMA backup striker would be nice but I don't feel is all that critical. I think AK47 is going to blossom this year and could fill in for Mitro. Learning how to muscle a defender shouldn't be that hard for him, given his size. He already has the pace and nose for goal. I like Fonte, just not as a footballer. I don't see him making a contribution this season.
Don't see AK playing that role in the same way Mitro does. Joka's words a few days ago: "After Mitrovic? That player doesn't exist. We can improvise - it wouldn't be the first time for me - but if you're improvising in the Premier League the price can be expensive."
In a nutshell.
Fulham have offered £8m for Hugo Mallo, the Celta Vigo right-back (The Times)
We need a starting LB and DM. Everything else is fine until January then we can reassess.
Kamara, Fonte and Schurrle can cover Mitro if necessary.
We've done incredibly well to bring in the players we have, in so short a time - Khan has been prepared to spend big, but there is a limit to the number of players we an get in before the season starts.
But a lb, hopefully Targett would be great, though, even essential, otherwise it'll probably be Marchand - not his usual position, and in a league he has no experience of, or Sess, playing there.
But it just may not be possible to get someone in in time - but I believe the club has been trying hard re a number of players.
Even if we don´t manage to sign a LB or back up DM I still think the Club has had a fantastic window. Probably the best we have ever had. My thanks go to the Khans & the recruitment team for what they have done. Nothing is perfect in this World & signing players is a nightmare. We will never really know what goes on in negotiations but the recruitment team know more than any of us mortal fans. Leave it to them & just enjoy the ride where ever it takes us.
For me if we we get a left back and that's it then great and with that LB It would be the best window I can remember.well done anyway to all involved from shad for funding it down.
We have made a statement of intent!
Not being cynical, but if I bought a PL club,saw it relegated and worked hard to get it back I'd want to see it stay there. If that's a statement of intent or just businesslike I don't really care.
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2018, 10:27:31 AM
Even if we don´t manage to sign a LB or back up DM I still think the Club has had a fantastic window. Probably the best we have ever had. My thanks go to the Khans & the recruitment team for what they have done. Nothing is perfect in this World & signing players is a nightmare. We will never really know what goes on in negotiations but the recruitment team know more than any of us mortal fans. Leave it to them & just enjoy the ride where ever it takes us.
My only problem with this is that a Left Back was priority. It allows Sess to play in an advanced position and to me a failure at left back means problems in two positions. I would have happily not paid out for the keeper or a wide player if we had a good left back. Mind you I never enjoy the ride. When the whistle goes to start the game I want it to be over as at least we have a draw. Bit like life really. Anyway we need a left back.
Every-time I see this thread bumped to the top of the page I click on it expecting to see a transfer rumour....
I don't understand why stating bringing in a DM is important because if KMac gets injured or has a drop in form or can't make the jump from championship to EPL seems to be such a controversial point. Even Slav has stated he needs help in that area of his squad to help KMac out. Writing him off is wrong but thats not the point the vast majority of people here so lets not side track a decent discussion on squad depth to writing off players. Thats really not the point.
Quote from: grandad on August 08, 2018, 10:27:31 AM
Even if we don´t manage to sign a LB or back up DM I still think the Club has had a fantastic window. Probably the best we have ever had. My thanks go to the Khans & the recruitment team for what they have done. Nothing is perfect in this World & signing players is a nightmare. We will never really know what goes on in negotiations but the recruitment team know more than any of us mortal fans. Leave it to them & just enjoy the ride where ever it takes us.
You can think as you like whether its a fantastic window or not and I'm not far behind you in thinking that too.
I can accept the late arrival of players but LB has been a priority from the moment we walked off the pitch at Wembley and he ain't arrived yet.
Lumping those who are concerned about certain aspects of the recruitment and are reasoned debaters with the odd moaner into one group is something you regularly do when generally all your comments are based on assumptions like everyone else.
You never seem to debate or prove your point, in fact your positivity is generally based on telling others how negative they are.
Are we all writing Le Marchand off as a LB ?
Clearly he struggled as a RCB but he was not bought for that . He played there because of Mawsons injury and Odois suspension .
I think he could play LB - one of the 2 positions he was bought to cover ( the other being LEFT CB )
Odoi would be cover after his suspension
And Sess plays up front
So I think we are OK
However naturally I would like to be better than OK and if we can sign someone better - eg Rose - I would be delighted .
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apparently (rumour rag) we have gone back for Targett at £14m
Seri can play K Macs role so there is cover plus cisse.
Quote from: hovewhite on August 08, 2018, 11:12:56 AM
Seri can play K Macs role so there is cover plus cisse.
Just not according to Slav then who I'd argue, knows best.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-talks-sign-serie-b-left-back-need-increase-offer-norway-international/
We are interested in Haitem Aleesami a left back from Palermo according to Italian media
Stef Jo must be having words with him!
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Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 08, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
Stef Jo must be having words with him!
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He got only one year left in Palermo. They have bought a replacement already (Antonio Mazzotta).
Fingers crossed that we get him.
I agree this forum is for civilised debate, but the same merchants who snipe about others who wish to see the club successful, but actually offer no constructive ideas accept moan about others whose aspirations are higher than there's.
They never offer any solutions themselves, but love a good grumble about others who do try and offer solutions.
On one side of the debate, you have those who are ambitious and realistic enough to want our club to do as well as possible.
To the other side of the coin where people are just happy to be in the Premier League, and are easily pleased no matter what occurs during the season, and more or less accept it for what it is, and gush and fawn over the people who run the club as though they were performing miracles, but that's their job, and they pay themselves very well for it.
These same people want others to be just grateful that we are making up the numbers.
Well the club is not performing any more miracles than any other club fighting its corner within its means, as we prepare for the season.
Yes we are investing a lot of money into players. But if we want to continue to stay in this Division we had to.
Because we started off at a disadvantage in the first place by having a lot of players on loan, so we had a bit of catching up to do.
This is not being negative or moaning, it's stating a fact, and being realistic, you cannot compete with the big boys but continue to hide behind the settee frightened of your own shadow.
I don't want to risk going back down again for the sake of a few million quid.
Having said that, I am pleased with what the club is trying to do, they are clearly working hard behind the scenes, but at the same time don't want to be ripped off, and are clearly still attempting to bring in players for either a starting position or for cover, and I appreciate their efforts, because once that window shuts we are on our own.
What I feel is magnifying the recruitment debate, and fueling feelings.
Is this final few hours to the deadline, is the left back spot, which has to be resolved for more than one reason.
Therefore, because the club know this as well as we do, I would like to think that they will get a left back over the line, and it would not surprise me if we obtain at least another player also, we will all know soon enough.
I know it's part of the game these days but I wish that we didn't take it to the last minute. No doubt in my mind that this has to be the best window in memory & I love to see Fulham's name in the news but I'm a "build from the back" supporter & this window is nerve wrecking.
I cant believe people actually believe we will sign 4 or 5 players by 5pm tomorrow
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:10:52 PM
I cant believe people actually believe we will sign 4 or 5 players by 5pm tomorrow
I'd honestly settle for a lb.
I think we will have 2.
Guilavogui (?!) and a LB, possibly a last min out of the blue LB if Targett doesnt happen
Agree. Its like having some school homework you have had two weeks to do but leave it up till the night before its due and you haven't started. And every window we end up running around like headless chicken paying overs for scraps.
Quote from: keithh on August 08, 2018, 12:08:56 PM
I know it's part of the game these days but I wish that we didn't take it to the last minute. No doubt in my mind that this has to be the best window in memory & I love to see Fulham's name in the news but I'm a "build from the back" supporter & this window is nerve wrecking.
new keeoer, two cbs, and a utility CB/lb not enough for you. I get we need a recognised lb and our RB isn't as good as last year's, but we have certainly tried to build form the back. So much so that we could actually be fielding a complete new back 5 (including the keeper) come September when everyone is fit
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 12:15:23 PM
Quote from: keithh on August 08, 2018, 12:08:56 PM
I know it's part of the game these days but I wish that we didn't take it to the last minute. No doubt in my mind that this has to be the best window in memory & I love to see Fulham's name in the news but I'm a "build from the back" supporter & this window is nerve wrecking.
new keeoer, two cbs, and a utility CB/lb not enough for you. I get we need a recognised lb and our RB isn't as good as last year's, but we have certainly tried to build form the back. So much so that we could actually be fielding a complete new back 5 (including the keeper) come September when everyone is fit
The investment in CB's is astounding considering we only had Kalas, Ream and Djalo at the start of last season.
Pete O'Rourke
Fulham launch £14m bid for Southampton defender Matt Targett. #FFC #SaintsFC
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 12:43:53 PM
Pete O'Rourke
Fulham launch £14m bid for Southampton defender Matt Targett. #FFC #SaintsFC
got a feeling that they genuinely don't wish to sell him. Think we are waisting our time personally. Not once have they said that our bids were well below there expectations, or anything along those lines.hope we have a plan b if that is the case
Quote from: the nutflush on August 08, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
Agree. Its like having some school homework you have had two weeks to do but leave it up till the night before its due and you haven't started. And every window we end up running around like headless chicken paying overs for scraps.
Who says we are paying over the odds for players and please name the scraps!
Why don't you wait till 5.00 tomorrow, then you can possibly have a moan!
We are reaching the point of no return - the last chance saloon - deals to be done that could not be done earlier - hopes and dream tempered by the reality of time running out
Targett - will be be a happy chappy sitting on the bench next to Hughes for the rest of the season?
Boyata - already refused to sign a new contract - he can walk away next summer - will Celtic take the risk?
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
£55m and Danny rose I would be tempted
45 + Rose + Moussa
I actually think the most important reason to keep Sess is that by selling him for straight cash in a year or 2 we can offset some of the spending from this summer
Even if the offer was astronomic ( almost impossible given its Spurs we are talking about) what would be the point? We couldn't begin to use it wisely this window and we all know how difficult January is . P*** off Levy
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
We must not let Levy shaft us again.
It's important we keep Sess, no matter what.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
£55m and Danny rose I would be tempted
You have to be kidding
Quote from: the nutflush on August 08, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
Agree. Its like having some school homework you have had two weeks to do but leave it up till the night before its due and you haven't started. And every window we end up running around like headless chicken paying overs for scraps.
Nothing like it at all - not even a little bit
Why do you think it is going to be any different for us when it comes to buying players that their clubs would prefer to sell or buying players who would prefer to wait to see if their going to get an offer from a club higher than us in the food chain?
We are now at the make up your mind moment and deals that have been put off in hope are going to have to be done - that is the reality of how the transfer window works and it is the same for everyone
Quote from: St Eve on August 08, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
£55m and Danny rose I would be tempted
You have to be kidding
The truth is that Khan does not need the money and the loss of face from having told us that he would not be sold would be too much for him to live with (I HOPE)
I also think TK would love to wait until 16.59 and then call him to say NO
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 12:15:23 PM
Quote from: keithh on August 08, 2018, 12:08:56 PM
I know it's part of the game these days but I wish that we didn't take it to the last minute. No doubt in my mind that this has to be the best window in memory & I love to see Fulham's name in the news but I'm a "build from the back" supporter & this window is nerve wrecking.
new keeoer, two cbs, and a utility CB/lb not enough for you. I get we need a recognised lb and our RB isn't as good as last year's, but we have certainly tried to build form the back. So much so that we could actually be fielding a complete new back 5 (including the keeper) come September when everyone is fit
None of whom have played together!!!
Understanding how your team mates react, how they play, set pieces, tactics and understanding head coach instructions goes a long way. Mawson is out out until start of September at the earliest.
The pre season has been wasted.....
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Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
£55m and Danny rose I would be tempted
You have to be kidding
No not really, I'm resigned to the fact Ryan will leave and I respect him when he does, you have one chance in this business and limited playing time.
Also he is not proven at this level and if he does not perform then his value could potentially plummet and £55m for us is a huge amount.
Danny rose is proven at this level and covers the LB spot.
As I said on twitter it's not going to happen but if the offer came in and I was at the helm I would consider it, if he has signed a contact extension then I would have another year to or 2 before thinking about it
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
And that is the end of that, nothing to see here move along Daniel Levy
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
And that is the end of that, nothing to see here move along Daniel Levy
why would he want to move, he is getting the best development available right now. We don't need the money and his value will just keep increasing
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Spurs planning a deadline day bid for Sess according to Dean Jones
Here we go again.
load of rollocks.
Quote from: Texas White on August 08, 2018, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
And that is the end of that, nothing to see here move along Daniel Levy
why would he want to move, he is getting the best development available right now. We don't need the mone and his value will just keep increasing
The last line is not a given. He could well find it very difficult
Do we think Targett is going to be the last signing we make this window?
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
Sure ye can always ignore it and post more bollocks about Peter Crouch
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
Sure ye can always ignore it and post more bollocks about Peter Crouch
:clap_hands: :005:
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
Do we think Targett is going to be the last signing we make this window?
No, I think it'll be Targett plus one or two. But that's my reading of the runes, I don't pretend to know.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
Do we think Targett is going to be the last signing we make this window?
If he is the last signing, let's hope we can also get one or two others in before him.
Really don't believe there is any intention to sell Ryan Sessegnon by the Management. Could be scintillating this season with a LB in place.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
Do we think Targett is going to be the last signing we make this window?
If he is the last signing, let's hope we can also get one or two others in before him.
I hope we have 2 or 3 left in us, we have come so far this window, be a shame to not complete the window on a high after it being so successful
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
So are you saying that a well respected journalist who pretty much only tweets when he knows what is happening for certain, who has got a number of deals correct (including confirmation of the chambers deal) has decided to make something up for a bit of a laugh then?
Quote from: Texas White on August 08, 2018, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
And that is the end of that, nothing to see here move along Daniel Levy
why would he want to move, he is getting the best development available right now. We don't need the money and his value will just keep increasing
:plus one:
Tottenham Failed With Bid For Fulham Talent Despite Throwing Danny Rose Into Mix
Tottenham Hotspur offered to send Danny Rose to Fulham as part of a deal to sign Ryan Sessegnon earlier in the summer, but no agreement was reached.
The 18-year-old left-back-cum-left-winger is considered one of the brightest young talents in English football and played a marquee role in helping Fulham return to the Premier League.
Despite his tender years, he has 82 appearances for Fulham under his belt and has attracted the interest of clubs such as Manchester United and Tottenham.
And according to the BBC, Tottenham made a concrete move to land the young star earlier this summer, but couldn't agree a deal with the newly promoted Premier League outfit.
It has been claimed that Tottenham tabled a bid involving Rose joining Fulham as part of a deal to sign Sessegnon several weeks ago, but two clubs did not reach an agreement.
Spurs have been keen to offload England left-back Rose all summer and unsuccessfully tried swapping him with Fulham for the teenage winger.
There are suggestions that Tottenham could make a big deadline day bid, but Fulham are confident that they won't be losing their young star this summer.
The Cottagers believe Sessegnon wants to play at least one season of top flight football with the club.
Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/08/08/tottenham-failed-with-bid-for-fulham-talent-despite-throwing-danny-rose-into-mix/385498/#ixzz5Nai01V00
051 good for you sir. Fed up with Levy coming in late to do business and messing up other clubs plans. Hope the new Villa owner stands by is word & keeps Grealish from Spuds too
You're money is not wanted or require here Mr Levy.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
Sure ye can always ignore it and post more bollocks about Peter Crouch
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2018, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 08, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
Agree. Its like having some school homework you have had two weeks to do but leave it up till the night before its due and you haven't started. And every window we end up running around like headless chicken paying overs for scraps.
Who says we are paying over the odds for players and please name the scraps!
Why don't you wait till 5.00 tomorrow, then you can possibly have a moan!
See you at 5pm tomorrow then.
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
Would probably mean we are getting in a replacement in that case. I'm all for him going out on loan as I don't think he'll get much play here, and if he does well it means we can recoup some of the fee.
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 08, 2018, 01:57:57 PM
Tottenham Failed With Bid For Fulham Talent Despite Throwing Danny Rose Into Mix
Tottenham Hotspur offered to send Danny Rose to Fulham as part of a deal to sign Ryan Sessegnon earlier in the summer, but no agreement was reached.
The 18-year-old left-back-cum-left-winger is considered one of the brightest young talents in English football and played a marquee role in helping Fulham return to the Premier League.
Despite his tender years, he has 82 appearances for Fulham under his belt and has attracted the interest of clubs such as Manchester United and Tottenham.
And according to the BBC, Tottenham made a concrete move to land the young star earlier this summer, but couldn't agree a deal with the newly promoted Premier League outfit.
It has been claimed that Tottenham tabled a bid involving Rose joining Fulham as part of a deal to sign Sessegnon several weeks ago, but two clubs did not reach an agreement.
Spurs have been keen to offload England left-back Rose all summer and unsuccessfully tried swapping him with Fulham for the teenage winger.
There are suggestions that Tottenham could make a big deadline day bid, but Fulham are confident that they won't be losing their young star this summer.
The Cottagers believe Sessegnon wants to play at least one season of top flight football with the club.
Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/08/08/tottenham-failed-with-bid-for-fulham-talent-despite-throwing-danny-rose-into-mix/385498/#ixzz5Nai01V00
Inside Futbol and HtC whatever their name is,spend all the time making up these stories.
Don't believe it for one second.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
Sure ye can always ignore it and post more bollocks about Peter Crouch
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
You seem to misinterprete alot. I haven't seen a post on here implying that they wouldn't want to see Sess play for us in the Prem. Evaluating a reasonable and HYPOTHETICAL deal is not sentencing Sess' exile, nor is it advocating for it.
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
Would probably mean we are getting in a replacement in that case. I'm all for him going out on loan as I don't think he'll get much play here, and if he does well it means we can recoup some of the fee.
If we bring in a better replacement then I'm happy for him to go, he deserves to play and hope h can reignite his career elsewhere
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
So are you saying that a well respected journalist who pretty much only tweets when he knows what is happening for certain, who has got a number of deals correct (including confirmation of the chambers deal) has decided to make something up for a bit of a laugh then?
Well respected journalist? By who his fellow cretins at the corrupt BBC....lol
Rui being moved on probably good for both parties.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 12:43:53 PM
Pete O'Rourke
Fulham launch £14m bid for Southampton defender Matt Targett. #FFC #SaintsFC
got a feeling that they genuinely don't wish to sell him. Think we are waisting our time personally. Not once have they said that our bids were well below there expectations, or anything along those lines.hope we have a plan b if that is the case
agree
even at £14m we are really getting our trousers pulled down
they could even completely stitch us up by suggesting they're willing to do business so we put all our resource into getting this deal over the line, then at the last minute when it's too late to go elsewhere, say they've changed their minds
they'll see us as direct relegation rivals so it could easily turn naughty like the derby-martin situation in january 2017
Could this all be smoke and mirrors and we are after someone else
So were not signing Crouchie then....Blast.😱
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
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Talking of left backs have we ended our interest in Tagliafico?
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Quote from: SWAD on August 08, 2018, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 08, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
Sure ye can always ignore it and post more bollocks about Peter Crouch
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
You seem to misinterprete alot. I haven't seen a post on here implying that they wouldn't want to see Sess play for us in the Prem. Evaluating a reasonable and HYPOTHETICAL deal is not sentencing Sess' exile, nor is it advocating for it.
Not just on this topic SWAD,if you scan back over a year or so you will see quite a lot saying we should accept this and that,they entitled to their opinion of course.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Like.
I also found the Dean as a respected journalist who seemingly never gets a transfer wrong funny considering he said only a few days that today Grealish would be a spurs man announced today....Come on guys don't fall for the clap trap. All the journos on twitter produce rumours and occasionally get the odd transfer right/wrong. All par for the course.
Quote from: hovewhite on August 08, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
Rui being moved on probably good for both parties.
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Where to? Where is this rumour?
Ivan Cavaleiro - Bookies now have Newcastle as joint favourites to sign him. Interesting stuff. Still would love to see him sign for us. Not really a priority mind.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Like.
I also found the Dean as a respected journalist who seemingly never gets a transfer wrong funny considering he said only a few days that today Grealish would be a spurs man announced today....Come on guys don't fall for the clap trap. All the journos on twitter produce rumours and occasionally get the odd transfer right/wrong. All par for the course.
If you are referring to my post then I meant Ornstein to be the journalist I was saying to be reliable
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Like.
I also found the Dean as a respected journalist who seemingly never gets a transfer wrong funny considering he said only a few days that today Grealish would be a spurs man announced today....Come on guys don't fall for the clap trap. All the journos on twitter produce rumours and occasionally get the odd transfer right/wrong. All par for the course.
If you are referring to my post then I meant Ornstein to be the journalist I was saying to be reliable
I think the post I read has gone!? Was talking about Dean suggesting Sess was going to Spurs and someone said he was nearly always right?
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
What's a petulant geezer when its at home,something you get in pet shop.
😺🐀🐕🐐🐢🐇
Olympiacaus apparently
Maybe we were supposed to sign this guy last year but ended up with 'Mollo' by accident:
http://sportwitness.co.uk/hugo-mallo-offer-life-join-fulham-explains-source-close-player/
Quote from: Sir Craven on August 08, 2018, 02:55:03 PM
Maybe we were supposed to sign this guy last year but ended up with 'Mollo' by accident:
http://sportwitness.co.uk/hugo-mallo-offer-life-join-fulham-explains-source-close-player/
could be another one of these who are using us to get an improved contract with their existing club
Quote from: Sir Craven on August 08, 2018, 02:55:03 PM
Maybe we were supposed to sign this guy last year but ended up with 'Mollo' by accident:
http://sportwitness.co.uk/hugo-mallo-offer-life-join-fulham-explains-source-close-player/
In all seriousness he would be a cracking signing, he's been a consistently good performer in La Liga for a few years now. Bring him in alongside a left back and a defensive midfielder and we'd be in great shape defensively
yes hugo would be good
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/08/do-report-fulham-make-9m-bid-for-celta-vigo-captain-hugo-mallo/
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on August 08, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Like.
I also found the Dean as a respected journalist who seemingly never gets a transfer wrong funny considering he said only a few days that today Grealish would be a spurs man announced today....Come on guys don't fall for the clap trap. All the journos on twitter produce rumours and occasionally get the odd transfer right/wrong. All par for the course.
If you are referring to my post then I meant Ornstein to be the journalist I was saying to be reliable
I think the post I read has gone!? Was talking about Dean suggesting Sess was going to Spurs and someone said he was nearly always right?
As I recall, someone said that a journalist who is normally reliable said that Spurs had approached us about Sess with Rose as bait but that the upshot was that he wasn't going anywhere.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on August 08, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
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Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Like.
I also found the Dean as a respected journalist who seemingly never gets a transfer wrong funny considering he said only a few days that today Grealish would be a spurs man announced today....Come on guys don't fall for the clap trap. All the journos on twitter produce rumours and occasionally get the odd transfer right/wrong. All par for the course.
If you are referring to my post then I meant Ornstein to be the journalist I was saying to be reliable
I think the post I read has gone!? Was talking about Dean suggesting Sess was going to Spurs and someone said he was nearly always right?
As I recall, someone said that a journalist who is normally reliable said that Spurs had approached us about Sess with Rose as bait but that the upshot was that he wasn't going anywhere.
Which makes our loaning in the German who prefers playing on the left wing even odder. It would have made sense had we been inclined to sell Sess and bring in Rose. But we seem to have both Sess and the German having their best position on the left.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2018, 03:31:34 PM
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Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
You got no sense of humour, bet you thought I was serious about Crouchie... Dearie me
It is pretty unfunny after the 40th time. People want to talk about actual rumours rather than having to deal with a petulant geezer who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Move on you boring p****.
Like.
I also found the Dean as a respected journalist who seemingly never gets a transfer wrong funny considering he said only a few days that today Grealish would be a spurs man announced today....Come on guys don't fall for the clap trap. All the journos on twitter produce rumours and occasionally get the odd transfer right/wrong. All par for the course.
If you are referring to my post then I meant Ornstein to be the journalist I was saying to be reliable
I think the post I read has gone!? Was talking about Dean suggesting Sess was going to Spurs and someone said he was nearly always right?
As I recall, someone said that a journalist who is normally reliable said that Spurs had approached us about Sess with Rose as bait but that the upshot was that he wasn't going anywhere.
Which makes our loaning in the German who prefers playing on the left wing even odder. It would have made sense had we been inclined to sell Sess and bring in Rose. But we seem to have both Sess and the German having their best position on the left.
SJ has said that Sess is wasted at LB. If we retain Sess and bring in a LB I'd expect to see Sess LW with Schuerrle starting on the right. But they'll swap about during the game anyway.
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
I will pay for the flight personally!! He is wasting his time with us, not good enough in the Championship and way out of his depth in the PL, if he can make the grade with another club, in whatever country and whatever division then good luck to him!
We need to keep Fonte as our squad is light
Quote from: davew on August 08, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
I will pay for the flight personally!! He is wasting his time with us, not good enough in the Championship and way out of his depth in the PL, if he can make the grade with another club, in whatever country and whatever division then good luck to him!
Need one more Post DAVEW.....Make it memorable!! :)
Quote from: KJS on August 08, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
We need to keep Fonte as our squad is light
Problem is fonte is light too.
Quote from: KJS on August 08, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
We need to keep Fonte as our squad is light
Fonte wasn't good enough last season, I can't see what's changed for him to make the step up.
There's no point having players for the sake of squad filling, if they are not good enough it's best if they go. See also Cisse I and Djalo M
Fonte seems to divide opinion among supporters like no-one else. Many players at Fulham have taken a year to settle in and show their real ability. Baird, Hayles, Zamora are recent examples. I don't intend to join the knockers at this stage. He may yet surprise. I'd rather have him in the side that Kamara who looks as if a season loan at a lower league might assist before returning.
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 08, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: KJS on August 08, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
We need to keep Fonte as our squad is light
Fonte wasn't good enough last season, I can't see what's changed for him to make the step up.
There's no point having players for the sake of squad filling, if they are not good enough it's best if they go. See also Cisse I and Djalo M
Some players are more suited to the Premier League than the championship this may be the case for Fonte, also going on you logic Mitro should be out too as he hasn't proved himself in the top division either!
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2018, 04:15:47 PM
Fonte seems to divide opinion among supporters like no-one else. Many players at Fulham have taken a year to settle in and show their real ability. Baird, Hayles, Zamora are recent examples. I don't intend to join the knockers at this stage. He may yet surprise. I'd rather have him in the side that Kamara who looks as if a season loan at a lower league might assist before returning.
Fonte over Kamara... controversial.
I think the main issue with Fonte is it's hard to see where he would fit in the first XI. He's clearly no replacement for Mitrovic, maybe cover for Cairney but I would have thought Johannson or Ayite would be in front of him there.
Quote from: KJS on August 08, 2018, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 08, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: KJS on August 08, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
We need to keep Fonte as our squad is light
Fonte wasn't good enough last season, I can't see what's changed for him to make the step up.
There's no point having players for the sake of squad filling, if they are not good enough it's best if they go. See also Cisse I and Djalo M
Some players are more suited to the Premier League than the championship this may be the case for Fonte, also going on you logic Mitro should be out too as he hasn't proved himself in the top division either!
Well no, he proved to be a class apart for us last season, and his record in the top flight, remembering he's still only 23, isn't as shabby as many make out.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 08, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2018, 04:15:47 PM
Fonte seems to divide opinion among supporters like no-one else. Many players at Fulham have taken a year to settle in and show their real ability. Baird, Hayles, Zamora are recent examples. I don't intend to join the knockers at this stage. He may yet surprise. I'd rather have him in the side that Kamara who looks as if a season loan at a lower league might assist before returning.
Fonte over Kamara... controversial.
I want to think that Fonte can play as a number 10 type player. But to say he would be preferred over Kamara is amazing to me. I would have Kamara as a starter or as an impact sub every time. Fonte I am not sure where you would have him.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 08, 2018, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 08, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 08, 2018, 04:15:47 PM
Fonte seems to divide opinion among supporters like no-one else. Many players at Fulham have taken a year to settle in and show their real ability. Baird, Hayles, Zamora are recent examples. I don't intend to join the knockers at this stage. He may yet surprise. I'd rather have him in the side that Kamara who looks as if a season loan at a lower league might assist before returning.
Fonte over Kamara... controversial.
I want to think that Fonte can play as a number 10 type player. But to say he would be preferred over Kamara is amazing to me. I would have Kamara as a starter or as an impact sub every time. Fonte I am not sure where you would have him.
LB?? :)
Quote from: Holders on August 08, 2018, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
Do we think Targett is going to be the last signing we make this window?
No, I think it'll be Targett plus one or two. But that's my reading of the runes, I don't pretend to know.
2 more loans are to be expected I would think. Can't those be after the window closes?
I am only expecting one more permanent, but hope I am wrong.
Quote from: WolverineFFC on August 08, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Holders on August 08, 2018, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
Do we think Targett is going to be the last signing we make this window?
No, I think it'll be Targett plus one or two. But that's my reading of the runes, I don't pretend to know.
2 more loans are to be expected I would think. Can't those be after the window closes?
I am only expecting one more permanent, but hope I am wrong.
No, as of 5PM tomorrow we can't sign anyone but until the end of August anyone outside of the PL can sign our players
Twitter rumors we've signed Sevilla GK Sergio Rico on a one year loan.
To put our offer for Targett into prospective - Villa are paying £5m for Joe Bryan - so maybe we're not offering too much for him
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
Twitter rumors we've signed Sevilla GK Sergio Rico on a one year loan.
More likely off to Chelsea
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
Twitter rumors we've signed Sevilla GK Sergio Rico on a one year loan.
Not sure why Sevilla would loan out their goalkeeper. Would have to be with an option to buy.
Hasn't proved too effective (Fonte) & he is no CF - but a handy guy to have in the squad & a great team man.
Anyone heard the rumour that we're after a Serie B left back yet?
Rumors all seem to have dried up
Maybe Fonte can play lb? 😂😂😂
Not even a sniff of a rumour on twitter
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 05:22:01 PM
Not even a sniff of a rumour on twitter
How about Betts to Chelsea then :hook:
Chelsea have allegedly activated the release ç clause of €71m for Bilbao Arrizabalaga! Transfer inflation is so rife !
Sevilla GK Sergio Rico on a one year loan with no option/obligation to buy
Quote from: Roberty on August 08, 2018, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
Twitter rumors we've signed Sevilla GK Sergio Rico on a one year loan.
More likely off to Chelsea
Thats Arrizabalaga
Simon Peach
Fulham still active in the transfer market as a frantic summer comes to a close. Jokanovic's men have been looking for a left-back
Fulham have made a new £14million bid for Matt Targett - deal looking likely now, although Southampton had wanted in excess of £15million.
From journo Graeme Bailey on Twitter.
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 05:22:01 PM
Not even a sniff of a rumour on twitter
*crickets* ... seems like whoever is working behind the scenes has been working so hard noone has a clue who he's working on bringing in..
Anyone else notice btw that Jim white was at the fulham media day yesterday for talks port to interview alfie Mawson, whilst fulham secretly announced the signing of chambers yesterday with a video wrapping up media day (post before 'official' announcement)... so Jim white presumably saw and knew chambers was there and signed. Wonder if any other people were there?
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
Quote from: lomotd on August 08, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
Fulham have made a new £14million bid for Matt Targett - deal looking likely now, although Southampton had wanted in excess of £15million.
From journo Graeme Bailey on Twitter.
Just accept already and let us have Matty so I can stop hitting refresh on this page every minute. It is really starting to interfere with my work and social life.
Why should Fulham reportedly be "wary" of a deadline day bid from Tottenham for Sess? If he has no release cause and we don't want to sell, there's a one-word answer. If the money is stupidly irresistible, that's another matter.
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
Thought I read somewhere rumor that Betts picked up an injury. Possibly worse than first thought? I hope not. But, why else would we be looking for another 1st team keeper?
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
Not sure I get that then - why would he come from first choice... on loan.
Fabri wouldn't be second choice by fan opinion alone.. slavisa would judge his merits.. he kept a lot of clean sheets in Turkey, so can't be that bad.. that said whilst he's loved in besiktas and his highlight reel is good... I did noticed he had players like Vida and Pepe in front of him?
Unsure how to make of him.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
There was a rumour that Betts has been nursing a long term injury that allows him to play but restricts his training. Perhaps the injury has got worse and he is out for sometime
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
Not sure I get that then - why would he come from first choice... on loan.
Fabri wouldn't be second choice by fan opinion alone.. slavisa would judge his merits.. he kept a lot of clean sheets in Turkey, so can't be that bad.. that said whilst he's loved in besiktas and his highlight reel is good... I did noticed he had players like Vida and Pepe in front of him?
Unsure how to make of him.
I was joking about being dropped by fans opinion.
Betts was on sky sports news saying he wants to play Saturday and fight for his place.
I am only going with twitter which has a lot of activity about this keeper and Fulham
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on August 08, 2018, 05:11:13 PM
Anyone heard the rumour that we're after a Serie B left back yet?
I'm sure that this was mentioned a page or two back. Here's a link...
http://sportwitness.co.uk/fulham-talks-sign-serie-b-left-back-need-increase-offer-norway-international/
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Llyall Thomas -
No, Fulham signing a left-back (or not) has no baring on Sessegnon's future there. (And if #FFC are bidding for Targett today, as per some reports, #Soton aren't aware of it!)
Seems the £14 rumoured bid is just that, a rumour
Simon peach -
Southampton could do with bolstering their squad but it's quiet as the window comes to a close. Financial impact of signing flop Guido Carrillo partly to blame. In terms of outgoings, doesn't sound like Matt Targett or James Ward-Prowse are going anywhere
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Not sure i agree, their staring 11 is not much improved from last season
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 08, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Not sure i agree, their staring 11 is not much improved from last season
Maybe not but they have tied down Loan players of permanent deals, have options in every position and depth
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:39:43 PM
Simon peach -
Southampton could do with bolstering their squad but it's quiet as the window comes to a close. Financial impact of signing flop Guido Carrillo partly to blame. In terms of outgoings, doesn't sound like Matt Targett or James Ward-Prowse are going anywhere
Targett did well last season but was prone to be caught out at the back post by anything in the air.
Hoping for an upgrade on Targett as left back urgently needed. Not sure we will get one though
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 08, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Not sure i agree, their staring 11 is not much improved from last season
Their starting 11 has had as many new additions as ours - quite a few of their signings are players from last season.
The others don't have experience of the premiership. We've strengthened with players who know this league and have done well in it - chambers, Mawson, schurrle etc but are adding to a squad which was by far and away the best team in the second half of the season last year... once we had brought in the key players like targett and mitrovic..
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 08, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Not sure i agree, their staring 11 is not much improved from last season
Their starting 11 has had as many new additions as ours - quite a few of their signings are players from last season.
The others don't have experience of the premiership. We've strengthened with players who know this league and have done well in it - chambers, Mawson, schurrle etc but are adding to a squad which was by far and away the best team in the second half of the season last year... once we had brought in the key players like targett and mitrovic..
Agree with you but not knowing the premier league doesn't wash with me, plenty of players have come and done it who played in leagues in foreign leagues before coming here.
Not sure if this means anything at all, but the Celtic defender boyata who we suposidly had a bid turned down for, has not been picked in the squad for tonight's champions league qualifier
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 08, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Not sure i agree, their staring 11 is not much improved from last season
Their starting 11 has had as many new additions as ours - quite a few of their signings are players from last season.
The others don't have experience of the premiership. We've strengthened with players who know this league and have done well in it - chambers, Mawson, schurrle etc but are adding to a squad which was by far and away the best team in the second half of the season last year... once we had brought in the key players like targett and mitrovic..
Agree with you but not knowing the premier league doesn't wash with me, plenty of players have come and done it who played in leagues in foreign leagues before coming here.
Of course, but when people say they did 'bits' in the winow it's a good thing to remember that we've arguably improved moreso on what could be argued as a better base team due to the fact in the second half of the season we went 23 games undefeated which is a mark of far superior quality.
Also they signed afobe and then loaned him straight to Stoke.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Not sure if this means anything at all, but the Celtic defender boyata who we suposidly had a bid turned down for, has not been picked in the squad for tonight's champions league qualifier
He hasnt actually played for them at all this season
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on August 08, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Victor Moses being linked with Wolves, how many more can they buy. They are having an amazing window
Not sure i agree, their staring 11 is not much improved from last season
Their starting 11 has had as many new additions as ours - quite a few of their signings are players from last season.
The others don't have experience of the premiership. We've strengthened with players who know this league and have done well in it - chambers, Mawson, schurrle etc but are adding to a squad which was by far and away the best team in the second half of the season last year... once we had brought in the key players like targett and mitrovic..
Agree with you but not knowing the premier league doesn't wash with me, plenty of players have come and done it who played in leagues in foreign leagues before coming here.
Of course, but when people say they did 'bits' in the winow it's a good thing to remember that we've arguably improved moreso on what could be argued as a better base team due to the fact in the second half of the season we went 23 games undefeated which is a mark of far superior quality.
Also they signed afobe and then loaned him straight to Stoke.
That was an odd move by them, not sure what the afobe deal was about.
I'm not knocking our window it's far surpassed what I expected and wished for, wolves just seem to have far more depth across the squad which I hope we can add in by the end of the window
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Not sure if this means anything at all, but the Celtic defender boyata who we suposidly had a bid turned down for, has not been picked in the squad for tonight's champions league qualifier
Half of Celtic twitter think it's because he's off, and the other half think it's because he's still not considered ready after returning from the World Cup (and that Rogers said he would be considered for the weekend game)
Quote from: Chesh on August 08, 2018, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Not sure if this means anything at all, but the Celtic defender boyata who we suposidly had a bid turned down for, has not been picked in the squad for tonight's champions league qualifier
Half of Celtic twitter think it's because he's off, and the other half think it's because he's still not considered ready after returning from the World Cup (and that Rogers said he would be considered for the weekend game)
Is he any good? A huge amount of Celtic fans on twitter said at £9m they would drive him down
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: davew on August 08, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
I will pay for the flight personally!! He is wasting his time with us, not good enough in the Championship and way out of his depth in the PL, if he can make the grade with another club, in whatever country and whatever division then good luck to him!
Need one more Post DAVEW.....Make it memorable!! :)
(LOL), you have put me on the spot and normally I am not lost for words, on or off a keyboard! I never realised that I had (and now have) reached a posting milestone on here, to ask me to make this 8000th posting a memorable one, sounds like mission impossible. If I couldn't manage one out of 7,999 it isn't going to happen now! What I am going to do is quit this stupid abstaining from alcohol program which I have been on for 17 hours and revert back to normal life and pour myself a (very) large Gordons and Tonic, place it on the bench to come on after I finish this delicious bottle of Sauvignon and then to celebrate the rest of the evening and wait for the news that Mr Targett has signed for us. To all my friends, followers and foes on here, I wish all of us to enjoy a very successful season following FFC. COYW!!
Emerson I'm leaving Fulham for first team football hyndman has just joined Hibs on loan 😂
19:04
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Hibernian have announced the signing of midfielder Emerson Hyndman on loan from Bournemouth until January.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Chesh on August 08, 2018, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 08, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Not sure if this means anything at all, but the Celtic defender boyata who we suposidly had a bid turned down for, has not been picked in the squad for tonight's champions league qualifier
Half of Celtic twitter think it's because he's off, and the other half think it's because he's still not considered ready after returning from the World Cup (and that Rogers said he would be considered for the weekend game)
Is he any good? A huge amount of Celtic fans on twitter said at £9m they would drive him down
whever he is any good or not, I just can't see the need fo another CB. Especially at that price
Quote from: davew on August 08, 2018, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: davew on August 08, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
I will pay for the flight personally!! He is wasting his time with us, not good enough in the Championship and way out of his depth in the PL, if he can make the grade with another club, in whatever country and whatever division then good luck to him!
Need one more Post DAVEW.....Make it memorable!! :)
(LOL), you have put me on the spot and normally I am not lost for words, on or off a keyboard! I never realised that I had (and now have) reached a posting milestone on here, to ask me to make this 8000th posting a memorable one, sounds like mission impossible. If I couldn't manage one out of 7,999 it isn't going to happen now! What I am going to do is quit this stupid abstaining from alcohol program which I have been on for 17 hours and revert back to normal life and pour myself a (very) large Gordons and Tonic, place it on the bench to come on after I finish this delicious bottle of Sauvignon and then to celebrate the rest of the evening and wait for the news that Mr Targett has signed for us. To all my friends, followers and foes on here, I wish all of us to enjoy a very successful season following FFC. COYW!!
049:gif :wine:
Quote from: davew on August 08, 2018, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: davew on August 08, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on August 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
According to the Greek press, Olympiakos is interested in getting Fonte on loan.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/superleague/article/1258185/olympiakos-gia-royi-fonte
I will pay for the flight personally!! He is wasting his time with us, not good enough in the Championship and way out of his depth in the PL, if he can make the grade with another club, in whatever country and whatever division then good luck to him!
Need one more Post DAVEW.....Make it memorable!! :)
(LOL), you have put me on the spot and normally I am not lost for words, on or off a keyboard! I never realised that I had (and now have) reached a posting milestone on here, to ask me to make this 8000th posting a memorable one, sounds like mission impossible. If I couldn't manage one out of 7,999 it isn't going to happen now! What I am going to do is quit this stupid abstaining from alcohol program which I have been on for 17 hours and revert back to normal life and pour myself a (very) large Gordons and Tonic, place it on the bench to come on after I finish this delicious bottle of Sauvignon and then to celebrate the rest of the evening and wait for the news that Mr Targett has signed for us. To all my friends, followers and foes on here, I wish all of us to enjoy a very successful season following FFC. COYW!!
Cheers, Dave! Always fun to talk to you.
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Need one more Post DAVEW.....Make it memorable!! :)
(LOL), you have put me on the spot and normally I am not lost for words, on or off a keyboard! I never realised that I had (and now have) reached a posting milestone on here, to ask me to make this 8000th posting a memorable one, sounds like mission impossible. If I couldn't manage one out of 7,999 it isn't going to happen now! What I am going to do is quit this stupid abstaining from alcohol program which I have been on for 17 hours and revert back to normal life and pour myself a (very) large Gordons and Tonic, place it on the bench to come on after I finish this delicious bottle of Sauvignon and then to celebrate the rest of the evening and wait for the news that Mr Targett has signed for us. To all my friends, followers and foes on here, I wish all of us to enjoy a very successful season following FFC. COYW!!
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Many congrats DaveW
Wolves have agreed a few for Zinchenko
Wolves are closing in on their sixth summer signing...
Belgium's Leander Dendoncker is set to have a medical.
BRIGHTON
INS Florin Andone (Deportivo La Coruna), undisclosed. Leon Balogun (Mainz), free. Alireza Jahanbakhsh (AZ Alkmaar), undisclosed. Percy Tau (Mamelodi Sundowns), undisclosed. Yves Bissouma (Lille), undisclosed. Bernardo (RB Leipzig), £9m.
OUTS Jamie Murphy (Rangers), undisclosed. Connor Goldson (Rangers), undisclosed. Tim Krul (Norwich), free. Sam Baldock (Reading), undisclosed.
NEED IN Considering bidding for Wigan's Dan Burn or another central defender as an eighth new addition. Albion would still like Liam Moore of Reading and Sheffield United's Jack O'Connell.
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Fulham have agreed a deal to sign Sevilla goalkeeper Sergio Rico on loan. #FFC #Sevilla
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Fulham have agreed a deal to sign Sevilla goalkeeper Sergio Rico on loan. #FFC #Sevilla
Are we planning to sell Betts?
Quote from: WOTM on August 08, 2018, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: lomotd on August 08, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
Fulham have made a new £14million bid for Matt Targett - deal looking likely now, although Southampton had wanted in excess of £15million.
From journo Graeme Bailey on Twitter.
Just accept already and let us have Matty so I can stop hitting refresh on this page every minute. It is really starting to interfere with my work and social life.
Thing is we can wait until the last minute on Targett - he won't need time to gel into the side. Leaving it to the last 24 hours seems unecessary though, agree.
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 08, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
Thought I read somewhere rumor that Betts picked up an injury. Possibly worse than first thought? I hope not. But, why else would we be looking for another 1st team keeper?
Would explain why his absence from pre-season hasn't been mentioned publicly by the manager or club, all very suspicious again, like the Cairney situation last year
As i've said elsewhere, Betts being absent in pre season is not unusal.
Maybe Betts said something after Fabri was recruited and that's the result. Maybe he's off and another is in. If so, I shall wish him all the very best and never forget his delight at Wembley.
Quote from: The Rock on August 08, 2018, 07:54:40 PM
Quote from: WOTM on August 08, 2018, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: lomotd on August 08, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
Fulham have made a new £14million bid for Matt Targett - deal looking likely now, although Southampton had wanted in excess of £15million.
From journo Graeme Bailey on Twitter.
Just accept already and let us have Matty so I can stop hitting refresh on this page every minute. It is really starting to interfere with my work and social life.
Thing is we can wait until the last minute on Targett - he won't need time to gel into the side. Leaving it to the last 24 hours seems unecessary though, agree.
Yes, because if it still falls through there'd hardly be time to put a replacement in place.
Quote from: MJG on August 08, 2018, 07:55:53 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 08, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 08, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Rico from savilla would surely be first choice keeper if he were to come in?
Is he their first choice? Why would he come in on loan? If he did come why? Betts gone?
I believe he is, maybe Fabri has already been shunned after the reactions by some from this board
Thought I read somewhere rumor that Betts picked up an injury. Possibly worse than first thought? I hope not. But, why else would we be looking for another 1st team keeper?
Would explain why his absence from pre-season hasn't been mentioned publicly by the manager or club, all very suspicious again, like the Cairney situation last year
As i've said elsewhere, Betts being absent in pre season is not unusal.
No but bringing in another top keeper in addition to Fabri would be odd would it not?
Are we really not going to sign sign an LB?
Quote from: The Rock on August 08, 2018, 08:03:37 PM
Are we really not going to sign sign an LB?
We can offer what Palermo want for Haitam Aleesami, would be great for us.
We will have backups for the LB role. If it's not Targett there will be another waiting in the wings
Lyell Thomas has said that the chap from Celta Vigo is a target for us
Quote from: The Rock on August 08, 2018, 08:03:37 PM
Are we really not going to sign sign an LB?
How about a RB? Rumour still strong about Mallo
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/11466126/fulham-target-celta-vigo-defender-hugo-mallo
Fulham are targeting a pre-deadline deal to sign Celta Vigo right-back Hugo Mallo, according to Sky sources.
Whites boss Slavisa Jokanovic wants three more signings before the end of the window, including both full-back positions and a defensive midfielder.
Mallo is a former Spain U21 international who has been with Celta since 2009 and made over 300 appearances for them, scoring six goals.
Although they have Cyrus Christie, the Whites have needed a new right-back since losing Ryan Fredericks to West Ham on a free transfer earlier this summer.
At left-back, Fulham remain interested in Southampton's Matt Targett but sources have told Sky Sports News that reports of bids being lodged on Wednesday are not correct.
Fulham have also been interested in Real Madrid's Theo Hernandez on loan but he looks set to join fellow La Liga side Real Sociedad.
Reports in Italy on Wednesday claim Fulham are also keen on Palermo's Haitam Aleesami.
Fulham also remain keen to sign Wolfsburg's defensive-midfielder Josuha Guilavogui, according to Sky sources
Wolves have agreed a few for Zinchenko
The little I've seen of him suggests to me he would be an immediate upgrade on Targett.
What a window Wolves are having, Love us to beat them to this one.
Rumours on Twitter that we've made a late big for Joe Bryan. What a disappointing step down that would be compared to our other signings
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 08, 2018, 08:15:30 PM
Wolves have agreed a few for Zinchenko
The little I've seen of him suggests to me he would be an immediate upgrade on Targett.
What a window Wolves are having, Love us to beat them to this one.
Zinchenko isn't a full back, he's a central midfielder that Guardiola decided to play there. Take him out of City's system and play him left back and he'll get crucified, he's not defensively strong
Bryan from Bristol has had late interest from a prem club and has stalled talks with villa
Rumour we are trying ro HiJack Villas move for Joe Bryan. Hes already passed medical with them
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
Rumours on Twitter that we've made a late big for Joe Bryan. What a disappointing step down that would be compared to our other signings
He's like Targett but quicker, I can only assume you'd class Targett as also being underwhelming considering they're almost identical players?
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
Rumours on Twitter that we've made a late big for Joe Bryan. What a disappointing step down that would be compared to our other signings
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bristol-city-transfers-live-bryan-1873058
On a side note, if we actually sign Sergio Rico I'll be genuinely impressed, he's still young but very highly rated in Europe and tipped to become a top goalkeeper. He's also massive at 6"5 so fills the goal well
Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
Rumours on Twitter that we've made a late big for Joe Bryan. What a disappointing step down that would be compared to our other signings
TBH on the occasions I have seen him play I have always been impressed.
Yeah Bryan is a decent championship leftback. I thought we'd be aiming higher than that
(I also think we should be looking at better than Targett....especially for 14m)
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Quote from: Ordar on August 08, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
Rumours on Twitter that we've made a late big for Joe Bryan. What a disappointing step down that would be compared to our other signings
TBH on the occasions I have seen him play I have always been impressed.
Looks a player to me, wouldn't be disappointed in the slightest. Southampton obviously not interested in selling Targett & as much as I liked him ,the money they're talking about is taking the p**s
Tony's just tweeted that Sess is going nowhere
From Tony Khan's twitter
We're not selling @ryansessegnon. We've never considered it! I couldn't sit back and read these false rumors anymore, had to say something. Ryan's key to this @fulhamfc squad; he's one of the top young talents worldwide and in our plans for @premierleague success. Come on Fulham!
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1027274721547771905
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
Totally agree 100% would be a great signing
Had a bid for Bryan rejected according to Gregor MacGregor.
https://twitter.com/GeeMacGee/status/1027270094517411840
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
Had a bid for Bryan rejected according to Gregor MacGregor.
https://twitter.com/GeeMacGee/status/1027270094517411840
That was earlier today. It's actually turned out to be somewhat hilarious in that he's apparently run off just before signing for them to come down to us because we've put another bid in for him
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
From Tony Khan's twitter
We're not selling @ryansessegnon. We've never considered it! I couldn't sit back and read these false rumors anymore, had to say something. Ryan's key to this @fulhamfc squad; he's one of the top young talents worldwide and in our plans for @premierleague success. Come on Fulham!
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1027274721547771905
Exactly false nonsense like I said.Dean Jones and Einstein from the BBC...lol
Tell me if I'm wrong, but if Target wanted to join us would he not have put a transfer request in?
I know there are signing on fee's etc which could be overcome.
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
From Tony Khan's twitter
We're not selling @ryansessegnon. We've never considered it! I couldn't sit back and read these false rumors anymore, had to say something. Ryan's key to this @fulhamfc squad; he's one of the top young talents worldwide and in our plans for @premierleague success. Come on Fulham!
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1027274721547771905
not gonna lie, i was getting a little nervous about the rumours. this is fantastic from tony
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Tell me if I'm wrong, but if Target wanted to join us would he not have put a transfer request in?
I know there are signing on fee's etc which could be overcome.
i was just thinking exactly that. obviously doesnt care enough to forgo hes 10% on the fee (if it is still that)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 08, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
From Tony Khan's twitter
We're not selling @ryansessegnon. We've never considered it! I couldn't sit back and read these false rumors anymore, had to say something. Ryan's key to this @fulhamfc squad; he's one of the top young talents worldwide and in our plans for @premierleague success. Come on Fulham!
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1027274721547771905
Exactly false nonsense like I said.Dean Jones and Einstein from the BBC...lol
Orbstein said that Sess wasn't going to go...
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.
25 is still pretty young. whats the average length of stay for a fulham player nowadays. certainly not 5 years that would still see him here at 30
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.
Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience
UPDATE FROM BRISTOL:
Aston Villa and Joe Bryan
The fee is agreed. Personal terms are sorted. Joe Bryan had a medical today.
But the transfer to Aston Villa has not been announced.
BristolLive understands that Bristol City were subject to a last-ditch bid from Fulham today.
And they are trying to hijack the deal.
Bryan could still end up at Villa but wow!
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Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
So are you saying that a well respected journalist who pretty much only tweets when he knows what is happening for certain, who has got a number of deals correct (including confirmation of the chambers deal) has decided to make something up for a bit of a laugh then?
So your well respected BBC reporter who only tweets when he is certain of the situation, was talking nonsense and made up false sh#t according to Tony Khan. 064.gif
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Tweet from Ornstein who is very reliable:
Tottenham made Fulham an offer for Sessegnon several weeks ago, proposed a deal that would see Danny Rose go the other way - #THFC want to move Rose (and Alderweireld for that matter) out - but couldn't reach agreement and Sessegnon now won't be leaving #FFC this transfer window
Ornstein....more like Einstein.
More made up tosh,I really believe that a lot of you on here would get more pleasure from seeing a Fulham player sold for big money than actually having him play for us.
Beam me up Scottie.😵
So are you saying that a well respected journalist who pretty much only tweets when he knows what is happening for certain, who has got a number of deals correct (including confirmation of the chambers deal) has decided to make something up for a bit of a laugh then?
So your well respected BBC reporter who only tweets when he is certain of the situation, was talking nonsense and made up false sh#t according to Tony Khan. 064.gif
Nope. He clearly said "Sessegnon now WON'T be leaving", so I don't know why you keep trying to tell me otherwise :005: :doh:
Bryan would be a decent signing IMO. He was certainly one of the best left backs in the championship last season. At least we would have ONE dedicated LB in out squad. I'd rather take Bryan for 6M than Targett for 15M.
Still, I wish the club had sorted this out sooner. It does smell a bit like a last day panic deal. And it's still just rumours with 20 hours to go...
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
Derby have signed Scott Malone
I wonder if he has any ....regrets?
Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
I'll go along with him saying that he is fed up with the false rumours,which I believe he is saying its a lot of sh#t and there's been no bids.
You and rest can think what you like that's your prerogative... Now put it to bed and move on.
He is staying and that's all that matters.
I'm glad the misery merchants regarding Sess have been shut up for the rest of this window at least..
It has been boring and and a tedious example of how some aren't happy unless they keep reviving this rubbish.
Journos and some on this board alike
Quote from: TerryR on August 08, 2018, 09:05:19 PM
I'm glad the misery merchants regarding Sess have been shut up for the rest of this window at least..
It has been boring and and a tedious example of how some aren't happy unless they keep reviving this rubbish.
Journos and some on this board alike
👍
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: TerryR on August 08, 2018, 09:05:19 PM
I'm glad the misery merchants regarding Sess have been shut up for the rest of this window at least..
It has been boring and and a tedious example of how some aren't happy unless they keep reviving this rubbish.
Journos and some on this board alike
👍 I m happy too - but it still isn't equivocal that the journalist is wrong .
👍
Scott Malone has left Huddersfield to Join "Fat Frank" at Derby obviously he has lost his ambition!!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 08, 2018, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
I'll go along with him saying that he is fed up with the false rumours,which I believe he is saying its a lot of sh#t and there's been no bids.
You and rest can think what you like that's your prerogative... Now put it to bed and move on.
He is staying and that's all that matters.
cant say there were no bids for certain from that. but you can definitely rule out the negotiations involving rose as part of the deal
Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
Apart from Khan also stated 'We've never considered it!' which would blow the both journalists theory out of the water with one suggesting he could go and the other saying the transfer fell trhrough so now we're not selling.
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Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
I'll go along with him saying that he is fed up with the false rumours,which I believe he is saying its a lot of sh#t and there's been no bids.
You and rest can think what you like that's your prerogative... Now put it to bed and move on.
He is staying and that's all that matters.
cant say there were no bids for certain from that. but you can definitely rule out the negotiations involving rose as part of the deal
I think you can't rule that one either. What if Spurs said will give you 50 and Rose for Sessegnon and then Tony Khan said no, he is not for sale.
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Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.
Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience
At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.
In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.
Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
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Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
I'll go along with him saying that he is fed up with the false rumours,which I believe he is saying its a lot of sh#t and there's been no bids.
You and rest can think what you like that's your prerogative... Now put it to bed and move on.
He is staying and that's all that matters.
cant say there were no bids for certain from that. but you can definitely rule out the negotiations involving rose as part of the deal
I think you can't rule that one either. What if Spurs said will give you 50 and Rose for Sessegnon and then Tony Khan said no, he is not for sale.
If they had offered £50 Mil plus Rose plus a sell on clause for Sess we would have taken it as it would have been a great deal
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Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
I'll go along with him saying that he is fed up with the false rumours,which I believe he is saying its a lot of sh#t and there's been no bids.
You and rest can think what you like that's your prerogative... Now put it to bed and move on.
He is staying and that's all that matters.
cant say there were no bids for certain from that. but you can definitely rule out the negotiations involving rose as part of the deal
I think you can't rule that one either. What if Spurs said will give you 50 and Rose for Sessegnon and then Tony Khan said no, he is not for sale.
If they had offered £50 Mil plus Rose plus a sell on clause for Sess we would have taken it as it would have been a great deal
Yeah, I know I've just put a random number, but you got my point.
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Quote from: HV71 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
Khan isn't going to sell but that doesn't mean that the journalist is talking nonsense. Your logic regarding the journalist is flawed Mince.
I'll go along with him saying that he is fed up with the false rumours,which I believe he is saying its a lot of sh#t and there's been no bids.
You and rest can think what you like that's your prerogative... Now put it to bed and move on.
He is staying and that's all that matters.
cant say there were no bids for certain from that. but you can definitely rule out the negotiations involving rose as part of the deal
I think you can't rule that one either. What if Spurs said will give you 50 and Rose for Sessegnon and then Tony Khan said no, he is not for sale.
that wouldn't be a negotiation in my eyes, id call that a rebuffal
Cauley Woodrow to St Pauli.
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
Like that guy a lot, Bryan will be a club hero before he signs
Auf wiedersehen and good luck
It wouldn't surprise me, and I know no more than anyone else, and it's just a thought, that Sergio Rico comes on loan to Fulham, and Fulham hijack the Joe Bryant deal to Villa, and manage to snare him from under the nose of Steve Bruce. Let's hope so. A long shot, but stranger things have happened.
He could be on his way down the motorway to us.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
No Loyalty in football.....But Who would turn down premier league football!
Good player 😀⚽👍
FFC 3-0 Villa. Lets have our £6m repaid next.
Yes confirmed,Rupert the club pigeon has just arrived with the news..
Good player,wanted him to come last season.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
I don't know if it's true, but he is with his agent, on his way down the motorway to Fulham.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
I don't know if it's true, but he is with his agent, on his way down the motorway to Fulham.
The good part of that rumour is that Bruce was following him trying to get him to turn back.
Pete O'Rourke (@SportsPeteO)
8/8/18, 4:36 PM
Joe Bryan has walked out on a move to Aston Villa and is set to join Fulham. #AVFC #FFC #BristolCity
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
I don't know if it's true, but he is with his agent, on his way down the motorway to Fulham.
The good part of that rumour is that Bruce was following him trying to get him to turn back.
Not sur who's true that last bit it, think it was a joke on twitter
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2018, 09:50:40 PM
Pete O'Rourke (@SportsPeteO)
8/8/18, 4:36 PM
Joe Bryan has walked out on a move to Aston Villa and is set to join Fulham. #AVFC #FFC #BristolCity
All these years later, this is our Riise moment in reverse!!
For once Bruce needed his man locked in behind the gates..........it just never happens at the right time for him does it ?
A Blog For Aston Villa Fans:
"Aston Villa's bid for Joe Bryan has hit the rocks thanks to late Fulham bid"
"Fulham you are Satan"
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
I don't know if it's true, but he is with his agent, on his way down the motorway to Fulham.
The good part of that rumour is that Bruce was following him trying to get him to turn back.
That's right he is pursuing him down the motorway, a bit like the keystone cops. You couldn't make it up.
Quote from: cheese pie on August 08, 2018, 09:53:46 PM
A Blog For Aston Villa Fans:
"Aston Villa's bid for Joe Bryan has hit the rocks thanks to late Fulham bid"
"Fulham you are Satan"
:hook: 064.gif
lol
That's a new chant for the season.
"WE ARE SATAN..WE ARE SATAN.
While all this is happening a left back we used to have has moved to the Midlands. Scott Malone to Derby.
Quote from: cheese pie on August 08, 2018, 09:53:46 PM
A Blog For Aston Villa Fans:
"Aston Villa's bid for Joe Bryan has hit the rocks thanks to late Fulham bid"
"Fulham you are Satan"
:hook: 064.gif
Do they mean that a massive giant club like Villa have been bullied again by little old Fulham, that's made my day.
Hilda's got the kettle on.☕☕☕
From Alan Nixon on Twitter:
FULHAM. Have nicked Joe Bryan ... right enough ... astonishing story.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Sky Sports reporter just tweeted that Bryan has walked out on a deal with Villa to sign for us, unbelievable!
I don't know if it's true, but he is with his agent, on his way down the motorway to Fulham.
The good part of that rumour is that Bruce was following him trying to get him to turn back.
Not sur who's true that last bit it, think it was a joke on twitter
Yes it probably was, but I could just picture it.
16:56
FULHAM MOVE LATE FOR BRYAN
Fulham have made a late move for Bristol City left-back Joe Bryan, according to Sky sources.
We understand the player has indicated to Aston Villa, where he was due to have a medical today, that he would prefer to play in the Premier League.
We reported on Monday that Bristol City had accepted a bid of £6m from Villa for Bryan - a standout performer in last year's Championship.
Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2018, 09:57:42 PM
While all this is happening a left back we used to have has moved to the Midlands. Scott Malone to Derby.
Weird few years for him. Good luck with Derby but you can't help think that he may have been better off staying where he was at Fulham.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.
Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience
At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.
In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.
Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
The "look what Joka did to Malone" and "ludicrous fee owing to being English" points apply equally to Targett. For that matter it also applies to Scott Malone, who was probably available for about £3m.
If Bryan will be worth £18m in the near future then by the same logic, Targett will be worth £30m. For that reason I'd rather have Targett at £14m than Bryan (or Malone) even for half the price.
And that's coming from someone who doesn't really want Targett anyway.
The fundamental difference between the two of them is that one of them is quick, and the other isn't, so purely based on athletic attributes being key in the premier league owing to every winger seemingly being f*cking rapid, I'd have Bryan every day of the week. Besides that £8m we save allows us to move on Mallo as well, and thus means we get two full backs rather than one which is a win win all round.
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Pete O'Rourke (@SportsPeteO)
8/8/18, 4:36 PM
Joe Bryan has walked out on a move to Aston Villa and is set to join Fulham. #AVFC #FFC #BristolCity
All these years later, this is our Riise moment in reverse!!
Time to order your Joe "arne" Bryan shirt
"Just when you think it is all going swimmingly, Fulham happen. Apparently the Londoners have made a late bid for an Aston Villa transfer target who as all but sealed the deal with the Villans. This could complicate things.
The signing of Joe Bryan by Aston Villa was confirmed via various media outlets not too long ago. It was widely expected that Bryan, a left-back for Bristol City, would sign for AVFC tonight following the transfer of Ørjan Nyland and John McGinn to the club, that's not exactly the case as is now understood.
Fulham, recently promoted to the Premier League as you'll no doubt know, have put in an offer for Bryan after he performed his medical at Aston Villa. You'd have to expect that a deal was almost signed as well. BristolLive are reporting that a move to Villa was agreed, in it's entirety.
Rumours that Steve Bruce and his gang are pelting down the motorway chasing down Bryan and his agent are currently coming to the fore, but these are unconfirmed, if not hilarious. This has happened a few times to Aston Villa, though - the motorway thing."
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From Alan Nixon on Twitter:
FULHAM. Have nicked Joe Bryan ... right enough ... astonishing story.
More from Nixon:
BRYAN. Had been at Villa for almost two days. Medical done. Waiting on results and signing. In come from Fulham from nowhere. There's always one mad one ... this is it.
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Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.
Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience
At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.
In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.
Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
The "look what Joka did to Malone" and "ludicrous fee owing to being English" points apply equally to Targett. For that matter it also applies to Scott Malone, who was probably available for about £3m.
If Bryan will be worth £18m in the near future then by the same logic, Targett will be worth £30m. For that reason I'd rather have Targett at £14m than Bryan (or Malone) even for half the price.
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Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English
He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.
Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience
At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.
In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.
Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
The "look what Joka did to Malone" and "ludicrous fee owing to being English" points apply equally to Targett. For that matter it also applies to Scott Malone, who was probably available for about £3m.
If Bryan will be worth £18m in the near future then by the same logic, Targett will be worth £30m. For that reason I'd rather have Targett at £14m than Bryan (or Malone) even for half the price.
And that's coming from someone who doesn't really want Targett anyway.
The fundamental difference between the two of them is that one of them is quick, and the other isn't, so purely based on athletic attributes being key in the premier league owing to every winger seemingly being f*cking rapid, I'd have Bryan every day of the week. Besides that £8m we save allows us to move on Mallo as well, and thus means we get two full backs rather than one which is a win win all round.
And that's coming from someone who doesn't really want Targett anyway.
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The fundamental difference between the two of them is that one of them is quick, and the other isn't, so purely based on athletic attributes being key in the premier league owing to every winger seemingly being f*cking rapid, I'd have Bryan every day of the week. Besides that £8m we save allows us to move on Mallo as well, and thus means we get two full backs rather than one which is a win win all round.
That and Targett will only increase in value if Southampton play him if not it's another year towards the end of his contract and value decrease. We might be ae to pick him up next year cheaper
Surely a back up?
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
Didn't they do this to us many years ago. I can't remember the players name, it's an age thing on my part, but wasn't he photographed with a Fulham shirt with his name on then 5 minutes later he had signed for Villa.
What goes around comes around, or something like that.
Boyatta wasn't in Celtic's team tonight, that deal could still happen.
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Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
Bryan played against Man City and Utd last season and played really well against both and even scored against Utd so don't have too many worries he won't cope unlike some of the the others we have been linked with.
He will only improve under SJ
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
Bryan I think will make the step up. He's been one of, if not the best Championship LB over the past few seasons so it's time he got his chance in the PL, plus he's an attacking full back so fit our system. I refer you to his performance against Man Utd this season in the League Cup to show what he's capable of. Besides he was part of a defence that blunted our attack 3/4 times we played Bristol since Joka coached us so that says something in itself
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Didn't they do this to us many years ago. I can't remember the players name, it's an age thing on my part, but wasn't he photographed with a Fulham shirt with his name on then 5 minutes later he had signed for Villa.
What goes around comes around, or something like that.
claudio reyna, and he joined city
Honestly don't know what to make of Bryan. Did anyone really look at him and say 'easily EPL quality'? I must admit, I thought that about Targett but don't recall thinking that of Bryan. Not dissing him or anything, it's more of a situation where I just havent watched/seen him enough.
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
Bryan I think will make the step up. He's been one of, if not the best Championship LB over the past few seasons so it's time he got his chance in the PL, plus he's an attacking full back so fit our system. I refer you to his performance against Man Utd this season in the League Cup to show what he's capable of. Besides he was part of a defence that blunted our attack 3/4 times we played Bristol since Joka coached us so that says something in itself
His stats look good on whoscored.com - especially his defensive contributions, which I was pretty surprised about. He's always been more of an attacking player in my eyes.
Edit: Looking at their stats from last year, they're both pretty similar. Bryan may just have the edge defensively. Offensively, Bryan has completed far more successful dribbles whereas Matt has a better passing accuracy and puts in more crosses.
When ever Bryan played against us he was superb. As much as I would have wanted Targett I would be over the Moon with Bryan. Saves us a few bob for a couple more signings tomorrow.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Didn't they do this to us many years ago. I can't remember the players name, it's an age thing on my part, but wasn't he photographed with a Fulham shirt with his name on then 5 minutes later he had signed for Villa.
What goes around comes around, or something like that.
Was that not Reyna going to Citeh?
Yep Ben, thanks
Quote from: Milo on August 08, 2018, 10:16:55 PM
Surely a back up?
Beginning of this transfer window I would have been over the moon - now it's underwhelmed.....
A sign of how far we have come! C'mon you whites!!
Surely a good signing, better than £15m on Matt Targett!
There could be a few more twists and turns before this window finishes.
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Both championship players & untested in the PL.
That makes no sense - since every player in the PL was untested in the PL at some point !
The trick is to spot potential and make sure they have the best coaching to bring them on
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
Bryan played against Man City and Utd last season and played really well against both and even scored against Utd so don't have too many worries he won't cope unlike some of the the others we have been linked with.
He will only improve under SJ
Watch the goal on You tube
Just great
He would be a great signing definitely first voice forget Targett now this for me is a far better deal
That finish vs United though.....peach
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
So that's a bit like Finan & Brevett then?
Or Fredericks at WSpam?
Or just about any LB we have been linked with. I don't recall many if any with Premiership experience
lot of villa fans saying that he signed a contract for villa and thats binding. but dont bc and villa have to ratify with the fa which is usally done at the end
Every player who has ever played in the top division was untested at one time.
Villa forums in melt down,,,,,, dirty rotten Fulham nicked their man, Bruce chasing him down the motorway!!
He wants to play for a Premier League Club and not a massive club
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Dendoncker looks like he's going to Wolves. Maybe we could swoop in last minute again and steal him away? He's be a dream scenario defensive MF for us.
I like Targett, but he's largely untested at PL level too, and not worth 15m particularly as he lacks top level pace.
Worst case we ship Bryan back to the Championship for a couple of mill, and have that and the leftover 9m to spend on someone else in January.
The Sergio Rico stuff is really weird if true, either Fabri is a complete dud or something odd is happening with Betts.
Targett must be upset, but I would not put it past Hughes to say no a last minute.
Do we think we have a better player for a 8 million saving?
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I like Targett, but he's largely untested at PL level too, and not worth 15m particularly as he lacks top level pace.
Worst case we ship Bryan back to the Championship for a couple of mill, and have that and the leftover 9m to spend on someone else in January.
The Sergio Rico stuff is really weird if true, either Fabri is a complete dud or something odd is happening with Betts.
I know, right? Doesn't make sense to me on any level. Rico is a top class young GK, and starter for his club. Year long loan to us makes zero sense from their perspective too.
Also, Fabri is better at passing out from the back and playing the sweeper role that Joka likes, so can't imagine he has the attributes to fit our style of play either.
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
I'd be seriously disappointed after the summer we've had so far if we ended up with these two as our wing backs. We've had an entire summer to sort out what are two key positions for the way we play and in LB one we're worryingly short on and I'm not convinced these two have what it takes.
And I say that remembering finnan who made the step up, brevett to a lesser degree, and seen players who've found their level in the Championship or low end of premiership in the likes of Liam rosenio and the likes of quedreue play for us and struggle. These two leave a lot to be dsired and the leagues got even more competitive since we were last in it.
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As good as for half the price
Targett must be upset, but I would not put it past Hughes to say no a last minute.
Do we think we have a better player for a 8 million saving?
Yes and for half the price
The thought of Bruce chasing Bryan done the motorway is hilarious! What an evening. If anyone wants a laugh, take a look on twitter haha
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
I'd be seriously disappointed after the summer we've had so far if we ended up with these two as our wing backs. We've had an entire summer to sort out what are two key positions for the way we play and in LB one we're worryingly short on and I'm not convinced these two have what it takes.
And I say that remembering finnan who made the step up, brevett to a lesser degree, and seen players who've found their level in the Championship or low end of premiership in the likes of Liam rosenio and the likes of quedreue play for us and struggle. These two leave a lot to be dsired and the leagues got even more competitive since we were last in it.
Bryan is an attacking full back, used to English football, and is also English so will probably strike up the same chemistry that Targett had with Sess. I can't work out how people were getting excited about Targett at £15m but think that Bryan is underwhelming. The only LB we've been linked with that is more exciting as a prospect is Hernandez, but he wants to stay in Spain and hasn't played outside of Spain so would be a risk in adapting to the PL. Look at it this way, saving £8m by buying Bryan allows us to go all out for Hugo Mallo and now we've got two quality full backs and Christie is now the backup RB
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lot of villa fans saying that he signed a contract for villa and thats binding. but dont bc and villa have to ratify with the fa which is usally done at the end
Bryan's Agent apparently said the deal is not binding.
Cardiff have approached Bournemouth to take Harry Arter on loan
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What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
I'd be seriously disappointed after the summer we've had so far if we ended up with these two as our wing backs. We've had an entire summer to sort out what are two key positions for the way we play and in LB one we're worryingly short on and I'm not convinced these two have what it takes.
And I say that remembering finnan who made the step up, brevett to a lesser degree, and seen players who've found their level in the Championship or low end of premiership in the likes of Liam rosenio and the likes of quedreue play for us and struggle. These two leave a lot to be dsired and the leagues got even more competitive since we were last in it.
Bryan is an attacking full back, used to English football, and is also English so will probably strike up the same chemistry that Targett had with Sess. I can't work out how people were getting excited about Targett at £15m but think that Bryan is underwhelming. The only LB we've been linked with that is more exciting as a prospect is Hernandez, but he wants to stay in Spain and hasn't played outside of Spain so would be a risk in adapting to the PL. Look at it this way, saving £8m by buying Bryan allows us to go all out for Hugo Mallo and now we've got two quality full backs and Christie is now the backup RB
I never commented on targett for 15 million but personally think that's a bit too steep for him.
If we get in Mollo then Bryan becomes our weakest position in the back four.
Ideally tomorrow we sign a quality LB, RB, DM and striker. Fingers crossed.
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I like Targett, but he's largely untested at PL level too, and not worth 15m particularly as he lacks top level pace.
Worst case we ship Bryan back to the Championship for a couple of mill, and have that and the leftover 9m to spend on someone else in January.
The Sergio Rico stuff is really weird if true, either Fabri is a complete dud or something odd is happening with Betts.
I know, right? Doesn't make sense to me on any level. Rico is a top class young GK, and starter for his club. Year long loan to us makes zero sense from their perspective too.
Also, Fabri is better at passing out from the back and playing the sweeper role that Joka likes, so can't imagine he has the attributes to fit our style of play either.
Yes Rico has come out of the blue, but it has legs. 6ft 5ins and 24 years, apparently a one year loan. It's all hearsay, but it begs the question why.
I thought Betts who has had a niggling injury, was fit for selection for this Saturday.
Yes Rico has come out of the blue, but it has legs. 6ft 5ins and 24 years, apparently a one year loan. It's all hearsay, but it begs the question why.
I thought Betts who has had a niggling injury, was fit for selection for this Saturday.
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Maybe there are issues with Fabri?? He has let a few in during the friendlies!
Only guessing! 😋
Can't help but be excited/relieved re Bryan ... cut-throat, the Transfer market at times - but good for us!
Me too.
Though I think Targett would be a good signing, with his previous experience with us - but that's not looking that likely it seems.
The fact that neither of the two has Prem experience, doesn't matter, I don't think - well, how can you tell how someone will do, but they're both promising young players, who I feel can step up to the plate, like several of our Championship side.
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Look at it this way, saving £8m by buying Bryan allows us to go all out for Hugo Mallo
What makes you think we couldn't afford both Targett and Mallo?
Also Mallo is just a rumour anyway, one of 50+ players we've been linked with this window
Mallo is more than just a rumour, they used the Celta game to scout him and there's a genuine offer. Never said we couldn't afford both but it's common sense that if you save £8m on one deal then you're able to reinvest that elsewhere as the £8m we started the bidding for on Mallo will probably go up a bit anyway should we get him.
Alan Nixon tweeted that Bryan never signed a contract with Villa so there shouldn't be an issue there either
Should the Bryan transfer fall through to us, Villa will welcome him with open arms
If he signs for us, he won't be the first with 'Bryan' on his back, and i hope he scores a few goals of equal quality as the last one (from LB of course)
Well unless we sign a third keeper, a record breaking midfielder, a left back, a forward and a new mascot then it will be a bit of a let down. :003:
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Well unless we sign a third keeper, a record breaking midfielder, a left back, a forward and a new mascot then it will be a bit of a let down. :003:
A new mascot???
Whats happened to Billy the Badger then? Or is it to replace Sir Craven?
Sky Sports reporting that Joe Bryan is having a medical with us this morning, fee agreed with Bristol City.
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Well unless we sign a third keeper, a record breaking midfielder, a left back, a forward and a new mascot then it will be a bit of a let down. :003:
A new mascot???
Whats happened to Billy the Badger then? Or is it to replace Sir Craven?
I rather like WBA's boiler.
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Sky Sports reporting that Joe Bryan is having a medical with us this morning, fee agreed with Bristol City.
You missed a bit -
"Bryan is understood to prefer a move to the Premier League" - don't you just love to read that :005:
I see a lot of negativity towards Bryan and I think that is a little unfair. We've had a great transfer window so far and if we can get Bryan over the line and a couple more to beef the squad up and improve the quality then no one can really complain.
By the end of today the club will have likely invested somewhere in the region of £100m if we get 2/3 in before 5pm close.
Le Merchand can play left back and has played at a higher level, but the club obviously feel they need a more natural/different option and in Slav I trust. Bryan looked a great player in his position in the championship, so I see no reason to not give the guy our support and hope he becomes a steel!
I for one am not disappointed with our business this window and will be chuffed if we can get another 3/4 in today! LB, CDM, Attacker and RB.
According to Sky, 3 in today, 2 defenders and one defensive midfielder.
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Yes Rico has come out of the blue, but it has legs. 6ft 5ins and 24 years, apparently a one year loan. It's all hearsay, but it begs the question why.
I thought Betts who has had a niggling injury, was fit for selection for this Saturday.
Maybe there are issues with Fabri?? He has let a few in during the friendlies!
Only guessing! 😋
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Could be a busy old day, once they remove Steve Bruces car from blocking the entrance to MP.
Bryan, Anguissa and who else?
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Bryan, Anguissa and who else?
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That Molla FB I would think?
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Bryan, Anguissa and who else?
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That Molla FB I would think?
Ahh yes, that would top off a great window.
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Woodrow to St Pauli now a no go,Barnsley have come in for him.Terribly confusing😵
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Woodrow to St Pauli now a no go,Barnsley have come in for him.Terribly confusing😵
I wonder if the Manager of St Pauli is driving to Motspur Park to persuade him to join them 😀👍
Great transfer window I must admit. Surely it will get better today. As a new season ticket holder, I am quite excited and looking forward to this season.
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Woodrow to St Pauli now a no go,Barnsley have come in for him.Terribly confusing😵
I wonder if the Manager of St Pauli is driving to Motspur Park to persuade him to join them 😀👍
It's going to be tricky with the Entrance to MP currently blocked.
Exciting times but I'll be glad when I don't have to keep refreshing every hour.
Quote from: Chetans on August 09, 2018, 07:49:51 AM
Great transfer window I must admit. Surely it will get better today. As a new season ticket holder, I am quite excited and looking forward to this season.
Yes, the next nine hours could be hair raising.
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Great transfer window I must admit. Surely it will get better today. As a new season ticket holder, I am quite excited and looking forward to this season.
Yes, the next nine hours could be hair raising.
Not for me - baldy
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Quote from: Chetans on August 09, 2018, 07:49:51 AM
Great transfer window I must admit. Surely it will get better today. As a new season ticket holder, I am quite excited and looking forward to this season.
Yes, the next nine hours could be hair raising.
Not for me - baldy
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 07:31:38 AM
Woodrow to St Pauli now a no go,Barnsley have come in for him.Terribly confusing😵
Where did you hear about Woodrow to St Pauli? Haven't read or heard about that anywhere
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 07:55:48 AM
So what are the live rumours going into today?
GK: Rico
LB: Aleesami, Targett, Bryan
CB: Boyata
RB: Mallo
DM: Anguissa, Guilavogui
RW/LW: Ayew, Cavaleiro
Blimey, there's going to be a hell of a queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room.
Be very happy to get Bryan - lb Is a key position and I think he's a reasonable player to fill that and cheap at the price.
Also the added bonus of upsetting villa.
And Bryan hardly gets injured
In Arizona for a conference so I'm 8 hours behind... Just going to bed but can hardly sleep knowing it'll be at the deadline by the time I wake up!
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:08:15 AM
Be very happy to get Bryan - lb Is a key position and I think he's a reasonable player to fill that and cheap at the price.
Also the added bonus of upsetting villa.
I'd love it if we stuck another finger with this deal to brucey!!
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So what are the live rumours going into today?
GK: Rico
LB: Aleesami, Targett, Bryan
CB: Boyata
RB: Mallo
DM: Anguissa, Guilavogui
RW/LW: Ayew, Cavaleiro
Blimey, there's going to be a hell of a queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room.
Don't know enough about any of them to be excited... hope whoever comes in is good enough.
What are people's preferences?
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Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 07:55:48 AM
So what are the live rumours going into today?
GK: Rico
LB: Aleesami, Targett, Bryan
CB: Boyata
RB: Mallo
DM: Anguissa, Guilavogui
RW/LW: Ayew, Cavaleiro
Blimey, there's going to be a hell of a queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room.
Don't know enough about any of them to be excited... hope whoever comes in is good enough.
What are people's preferences?
any of those LBs a striker Ayew,Dm?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
And Bryan hardly gets injured
He may get suspended for a couple of matches though. 11 yellows last season. Very aggressive style, always on the verge of a booking. Not dirty though and a great player for Bristol City. I expect Joka can handle it.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
And Bryan hardly gets injured
He'll fail his medical now with dodgy knees.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 07:31:38 AM
Woodrow to St Pauli now a no go,Barnsley have come in for him.Terribly confusing😵
Where did you hear about Woodrow to St Pauli? Haven't read or heard about that anywhere
That so called reputable journalist at the BBC text me.😱,him that never makes stuff up...lol
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 08:35:15 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 09, 2018, 08:01:44 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 07:55:48 AM
So what are the live rumours going into today?
GK: Rico
LB: Aleesami, Targett, Bryan
CB: Boyata
RB: Mallo
DM: Anguissa, Guilavogui
RW/LW: Ayew, Cavaleiro
Blimey, there's going to be a hell of a queue in the corridor outside the Medical Room.
Don't know enough about any of them to be excited... hope whoever comes in is good enough.
What are people's preferences?
Don't think we need Rico even though he's genuinely class, Bryan as the LB, Anguissa as the DM, hopefully Mallo too and if we get a utility forward that would be a brucey bonus
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 07:55:48 AM
So what are the live rumours going into today?
GK: Rico
LB: Aleesami, Targett, Bryan
CB: Boyata
RB: Mallo
DM: Anguissa, Guilavogui
RW/LW: Ayew, Cavaleiro
@statto
Is there any chance that we might buy all, most or some of these?
Do you think there are any rabbits that we've not heard of yet?
Presumably we can ship any, some or all of them out on loan to none UK clubs until the end of the month if they are not the gems that SJ and TK thinks they might be.
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
What's happened to this?
I'd forgotten about Woodrow. He's the nearest we have to a Mitro-type player in the senior squad. Of course he's not in the same class but if we get no other backup it could be worth keeping him as cover. I appreciate that SJ might not rate him but he has played in the PL, albeit under MMM, as I recall.
Quote from: Holders on August 09, 2018, 09:01:43 AM
I'd forgotten about Woodrow. He's the nearest we have to a Mitro-type player in the senior squad. Of course he's not in the same class but if we get no other backup it could be worth keeping him as cover. I appreciate that SJ might not rate him but he has played in the PL, albeit under MMM, as I recall.
Cauley has the touch of an elephant, he can't be a hold up player unless he takes a truck load of steroids to beef up and learns how to control the ball well enough to be a lone striker
Ayew signed for Palace- reported on BBC 5Live.
According to Sky, Jordan Ayew is going to Palace on loan
bit harsh that (re Woodrow), he's certainly bulked up a lot over the past few years.
Emo Hyndman has gone on loan to Hibs
Welbeck has been told her can leave Arsenal, can play anywhere across front 3. Offers great cover
Quote from: General on August 08, 2018, 11:08:24 PM
Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?
I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
I'd be seriously disappointed after the summer we've had so far if we ended up with these two as our wing backs. We've had an entire summer to sort out what are two key positions for the way we play and in LB one we're worryingly short on and I'm not convinced these two have what it takes.
And I say that remembering finnan who made the step up, brevett to a lesser degree, and seen players who've found their level in the Championship or low end of premiership in the likes of Liam rosenio and the likes of quedreue play for us and struggle. These two leave a lot to be dsired and the leagues got even more competitive since we were last in it.
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Sorry General. I don't think the league is more competitiive since we were there last.
There are more middling teams and only a handful, (say 5) top, top teams in the PL now.
Personally think we can "have a go" at spots 6-19 in the PL this season, (as opposed to spots 11-19).
It's ok people on here saying these players will get torn apart by the likes of Citeh.
But every team in the PL gets torn apart by Citeh. It's only 2 games out of 28 tho.
COYW!
I really really hope Anguissa signs. Exactly what we need, and still so young. Could easily quadruple in value in the next 2 years
Quote from: squidgus on August 09, 2018, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
What's happened to this?
Apparently, he got injured playing on Saturday. Not sure how true that is. Been a bit busy with my wife giving birth to our 2nd child over the last few days. Definately our best signing of the transfer window. :yay:
Looking forward to a busy day for Fulham! 049:gif
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
And Bryan hardly gets injured
Really Slaphead?
Did you really just say that?
:doh: :005:
APS, congratulations hope baby and mum are well.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 09, 2018, 09:32:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
And Bryan hardly gets injured
Really Slaphead?
Did you really just say that?
:doh:
Maybe not a good post in retrospect. Putting the mockers on the guy
We apparently have bid £16 million for Targett, but Southampton wants £20 million. https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/1027465592897449985
Time to pull out of that one I think. £20 million for Targett would be insanity.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:08:15 AM
Be very happy to get Bryan - lb Is a key position and I think he's a reasonable player to fill that and cheap at the price.
Also the added bonus of upsetting villa.
I've heard Steve Bruce has been up all nightvdoing a remix of this https://youtu.be/pSywtiAirKE
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 09, 2018, 09:32:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
And Bryan hardly gets injured
Really Slaphead?
Did you really just say that?
:doh:
Maybe not a good post in retrospect. Putting the mockers on the guy
Lol.
Good job I'm not superstitious
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 09:35:42 AM
We apparently have bid £16 million for Targett, but Southampton wants £20 million. https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/1027465592897449985
Time to pull out of that one I think. £20 million for Targett would be insanity.
20 mill for a reserve player!!
Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 09:35:42 AM
We apparently have bid £16 million for Targett, but Southampton wants £20 million. https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/1027465592897449985
Time to pull out of that one I think. £20 million for Targett would be insanity.
20 mill for a reserve player!!
It does show that we have £16 million to splash if true at least. That should be able to get a decent LB not named Targett.
Barring a reversal of the situation, what remains possible, Zambo Anguissa (OM) should join Fulham where a 4-year contract awaits. A priori medical visit to Marseille. Amount of the transaction: EUR 30 million.
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 09:40:23 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 09:35:42 AM
We apparently have bid £16 million for Targett, but Southampton wants £20 million. https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/1027465592897449985
Time to pull out of that one I think. £20 million for Targett would be insanity.
20 mill for a reserve player!!
It does show that we have £16 million to splash if true at least. That should be able to get a decent LB not named Targett.
We are about to sign Bryan and save £10m
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
According to Sky, Jordan Ayew is going to Palace on loan
Zaha going to tottenham? He'd be going to a team where their strengths are most evident in attack.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 09:09:43 AM
Welbeck has been told her can leave Arsenal, can play anywhere across front 3. Offers great cover
id like him as cover too!
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 09:40:23 AM
It does show that we have £16 million to splash if true at least. That should be able to get a decent LB not named Targett.
We are about to sign Bryan and save £10m
We were trying to get both according to the tweet.
Get French Football News just tweeted that Anguissa is having a medical today ahead of a €30M move. Tony deserves his own statue if he pulls this off.
Targett not worth 20million.Bryant a good move hoping it come off.
£20m for Target?! No chance. Good player with a good attitude but that's double what would already be overpaying.
I hope to god we havent big 20m for Targett......
Quote from: APS on August 09, 2018, 09:29:51 AM
Quote from: squidgus on August 09, 2018, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: APS on August 03, 2018, 09:29:22 PM
Make of this what you will....... believe it or not.....
Vincent Aboubakar joining on loan next week pending successful medical.
What's happened to this?
Apparently, he got injured playing on Saturday. Not sure how true that is. Been a bit busy with my wife giving birth to our 2nd child over the last few days. Definately our best signing of the transfer window. :yay:
Looking forward to a busy day for Fulham! 049:gif
Congratulations!
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 09:09:43 AM
Welbeck has been told her can leave Arsenal, can play anywhere across front 3. Offers great cover
id like him as cover too!
As a player who can slot in across the top I agree however we would have to buy as we couldn't loan
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 09:09:43 AM
Welbeck has been told her can leave Arsenal, can play anywhere across front 3. Offers great cover
id like him as cover too!
As a player who can slot in across the top I agree however we would have to buy as we couldn't loan
i think the price would be low enough to buy him but wages may be the issue with him. got to be on about £75k
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/fulham-close-to-e30m-signing-of-marseille-midfielder-franck-andre-zambo-anguissa/
Martin Montoya )DF) linked now http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/09/report-southampton-target-martin-montoya-brighton-also-keen/
plays right across the back 4 - valencia player (former Barcelona)
Midfield of Seri, Cairney and Anguissa would be frankly insane
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/fulham-close-to-e30m-signing-of-marseille-midfielder-franck-andre-zambo-anguissa/
DM as marseille got to europa league final last season.. how old is he? Must be decent?
even to be linked with the likes players we are In This window is incredible. We are really making a statement this window and Khan is sticking to his word of wanting to compete.
If I get to meet him I will be sure to thank him for what he has done this far
Skysports just said we've bid 20m for Targett....sorry but thats having our pants pulled down. I'm one of his biggest fans but thats a wind up.
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/fulham-close-to-e30m-signing-of-marseille-midfielder-franck-andre-zambo-anguissa/
DM as marseille got to europa league final last season.. how old is he? Must be decent?
He's only 22. Very highly rated
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
Skysports just said we've bid 20m for Targett....sorry but thats having our pants pulled down. I'm one of his biggest fans but thats a wind up.
It was a fake account mate so don't panic!
Bryan, for me a superb deal. Would have loved to sign Targett permanently but £20M is just crazy. Nice to get Aleesami as back-up, too as very light on LB cover.
After this the others mentioned are added bonuses - an unbelievable transfer window!
Quote from: supersimmo123 on August 09, 2018, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
Skysports just said we've bid 20m for Targett....sorry but thats having our pants pulled down. I'm one of his biggest fans but thats a wind up.
It was a fake account mate so don't panic!
Annoyingly, I read it from Mirror football who quoted that account! Fake News! Although they replaced the article with news 15m has been turned down.
Bryan, Anguissa and Rica today and I'm amazed at probably the best transfer window in my lifetime.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/claim-player-rejected-late-offer-join-fulham/
Doesn't look like Mollo will be coming:(
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
Skysports just said we've bid 20m for Targett....sorry but thats having our pants pulled down. I'm one of his biggest fans but thats a wind up.
Sky copying what anyone can read on the net.
Why would we buy Targett and Bryan..😵
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 09:57:17 AM
Midfield of Seri, Cairney and Anguissa would be frankly insane
Funny, a lot of pundits have been saying things along the lines of, "Fulham's expansive style worked in the Championship where they had the best players but they can't do that in the Premiership." With that midfield trio I reckon we'd go into 70% of games with a technically superior midfield to the opposition. So up yours, pundits!
Agree. These so called expert pundits always end up with egg on their face and with their so called expert reviews and predictions.It will be a pleasure to prove these doubters wrong. How do they know our expansive style will not work in the prem ?
Zinchenko has rejected wolves, has Big Tony worked his magic again?
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http://the72.co.uk/113336/bristol-city-qpr-chase-fulham-keeper/
It is being reported by the Daily Mail that Sky Bet Championship duo Bristol City and Queens Park Rangers are interested in Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli. Whilst he was first choice under Slavisa Jokanovic last season, he is unlikely to be this season after signing a new goalkeeper, and another may follow.
The question now is if Fulham are indeed prepared to sell the player. Sevilla goalkeeper Sergio Rico is primed to complete a deadline day switch to Craven Cottage. Fabri has already signed from Besiktas, which highlights the fact Jokanovic felt the goalkeeping situation could be drastically improved at the club. Bettinelli surely won't be happy to be a sub, at best, in the season to come.
Dropping down into the Sky Bet Championship again may seem a backward step in one regard, but quite simply, he would play more. In the case of Bristol City, they are missing current first choice Frank Fielding long-term through injury, and wouldn't say no to adding the former England Under-21 international to their ranks at Ashton Gate. Queens Park Rangers have only made one signing this summer, and lost key keeper Alex Smithies earlier in the window. Michael Ingram started the season between the sticks, but he is inexperienced at Sky Bet Championship level.
It is likely to be a situation that will rumble right until the 5pm deadline. Quite possibly, other clubs in the English second tier could declare their interest in the player, who has a promotion out of this division on his CV, when winning the play-off last season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
Skysports just said we've bid 20m for Targett....sorry but thats having our pants pulled down. I'm one of his biggest fans but thats a wind up.
Sky copying what anyone can read on the net.
Why would we buy Targett and Bryan..😵
I would rather wait 12 Months for Targett, see how his first season in the Prem goes and grab him when he only has a short time left on his Contract. He will be a fraction of that price then.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 10:34:05 AM
http://the72.co.uk/113336/bristol-city-qpr-chase-fulham-keeper/
It is being reported by the Daily Mail that Sky Bet Championship duo Bristol City and Queens Park Rangers are interested in Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli. Whilst he was first choice under Slavisa Jokanovic last season, he is unlikely to be this season after signing a new goalkeeper, and another may follow.
The question now is if Fulham are indeed prepared to sell the player. Sevilla goalkeeper Sergio Rico is primed to complete a deadline day switch to Craven Cottage. Fabri has already signed from Besiktas, which highlights the fact Jokanovic felt the goalkeeping situation could be drastically improved at the club. Bettinelli surely won't be happy to be a sub, at best, in the season to come.
Dropping down into the Sky Bet Championship again may seem a backward step in one regard, but quite simply, he would play more. In the case of Bristol City, they are missing current first choice Frank Fielding long-term through injury, and wouldn't say no to adding the former England Under-21 international to their ranks at Ashton Gate. Queens Park Rangers have only made one signing this summer, and lost key keeper Alex Smithies earlier in the window. Michael Ingram started the season between the sticks, but he is inexperienced at Sky Bet Championship level.
It is likely to be a situation that will rumble right until the 5pm deadline. Quite possibly, other clubs in the English second tier could declare their interest in the player, who has a promotion out of this division on his CV, when winning the play-off last season.
Don't like this. Why are we buying a third keeper when we have just shipped Rodak out on loan? Feel sorry for Betts. He was awesome for us last half of last season.
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are in talks with Valencia over a deal to sign right-back Martin Montoya, according to Sky sources.
I guess that means we've given up on Molla
If we get the French lad in, that will be four signings that were above our former transfer record in one window.
Crazy how the fees have inflated since last time up there.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 09:43:14 AM
Get French Football News just tweeted that Anguissa is having a medical today ahead of a €30M move. Tony deserves his own statue if he pulls this off.
That's exactly what the Mairselle fans are saying
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Anyone seen Montoya play? I'm not familiar with him
Quote from: HV71 on August 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Agreed. That said if the rumours flying around are to be believed and we're going after a LB, DM, RB and addressing obvious areas of need.. I'm semi hopeful they're working on a striker too... fingers crossed.
Quote from: HV71 on August 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Been saying this for about a fortnight now. Fonte is no backup plan in my opinion.
FULHAM LOAN FOR RICO?
Fulham have reached an agreement in principle with Sevilla over the loan of goalkeeper Sergio Rico, reports Cadena SER.
The two clubs have reportedly struck a deal in which the 24-year-old will spend this season on loan at Craven Cottage.
It is not clear if the agreement includes an option to make the loan permanent.
Move on!
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/saints-reject-15m-fulham-bid-for-targett_332822.html
Southampton have reportedly rejected a £15m bid from Fulham for full-back Matt Targett.
The defender spent last season on loan at the Cottagers, scoring one goal and assisting two others as Slavisa Jokanovic's men sealed a return to the Premier League.
The Mirror reports that Fulham, who have been tracking the Englishman all summer ahead of a potential return to West London, have been knocked back with their latest attempt.
According to the newspaper, Southampton see Targett as a key player in their team this season and are prepared to hold off further competition from their Premier League rivals before the transfer deadline.
Targett, who has been on the south coast since turning professional, has appeared 27 times in the top flight to date.
Betts to QPR, the worst suggestion of the window, surely we would not let that happen to him.
How good is Anguissa?
Quote from: Tex on August 09, 2018, 11:15:20 AM
How good is Anguissa?
Supposed to be very good, but with huge potential. Often likened to Wanyama
I'd be sad if Marcus left us before playing in the EPL for his boyhood club. 23 games unbeaten obviously counts for nothing. I think clubs see how well City have done with a ball playing keeper and that priorities for the position have changed.
Betts could still play in the Prem for us if he goes out on loan, develops and returns later. It's a shame we didn't offer him to Burnley when they were looking for a keeper, it would have given him good experience and maybe Europa game time.
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
FULHAM LOAN FOR RICO?
Fulham have reached an agreement in principle with Sevilla over the loan of goalkeeper Sergio Rico, reports Cadena SER.
The two clubs have reportedly struck a deal in which the 24-year-old will spend this season on loan at Craven Cottage.
It is not clear if the agreement includes an option to make the loan permanent.
Bet fabris happy with that - not !!!!!!!
It would be a great shame if Betts left - I've never bought into the view that he is not up to standard for the PL. For me, he is a fantastic shot stopper and a great communicator, he is very determined and loves the club - yes, he could improve at some things but I'd much rather have him starting than Fabri to be honest. You know exactly what youre getting from Betts and he is pretty comfortable with playing out from the back and, as has been said he was part of a club record unbeaten run. After watching a fair bit of pre-season, Fabri leaves me feeling nervous!
I'm all for upgrading but I think Betts is one who deserved his chance to show what he can do at Prem level.
Quote from: the nutflush on August 09, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: HV71 on August 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Been saying this for about a fortnight now. Fonte is no backup plan in my opinion.
Last years goals came from everywhere, that's our style of play. Also don't forget we have Sess and Schurrle
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 09, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: HV71 on August 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Been saying this for about a fortnight now. Fonte is no backup plan in my opinion.
Last years goals came from everywhere, that's our style of play. Also don't forget we have Sess and Schurrle
We still need a replacement for if Mitrovic is injured or hits a bad patch. There is no-one at all to fill the void. I'm a fan of Kamara but he is a completely different type of player and would not be a fit replacement as a number 9.
Fulham look like they're going to be busy on Transfer Deadline Day, which is very exciting. Personally, I'm happy with left-back Joe Bryan signing from Bristol City for £6m. Southampton clearly wanted too much money for Matty Targett, and it seems like Fulham weren't going to be pressured into paying top whack for him.
I think a left-back was the only signing we desperately needed, but it looks like Fulham won't rest there. I've seen rumours for Luciano Vietto, Martín Montoya and André-Frank Zambo Anguissa doing the rounds. All of those would be incredible coups and if they came off, this would surely be our best transfer window ever.
Sammy James, Fulhamish podcast
Simply because he's one of our own I'd be genuinely upset if Bettinelli leaves. He's not the complete keeper by any stretch of the imagination but he's earned the right last season to be a no. 2 Prem keeper.
We shall see...
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on August 09, 2018, 11:39:56 AM
Simply because he's one of our own I'd be genuinely upset if Bettinelli leaves. He's not the complete keeper by any stretch of the imagination but he's earned the right last season to be a no. 2 Prem keeper.
We shall see...
I agree, I hope Marcus stays, he deserves to start the season, but if that's not possible, he should be No.2 at least.
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
Fulham look like they're going to be busy on Transfer Deadline Day, which is very exciting. Personally, I'm happy with left-back Joe Bryan signing from Bristol City for £6m. Southampton clearly wanted too much money for Matty Targett, and it seems like Fulham weren't going to be pressured into paying top whack for him.
I think a left-back was the only signing we desperately needed, but it looks like Fulham won't rest there. I've seen rumours for Luciano Vietto, Martín Montoya and André-Frank Zambo Anguissa doing the rounds. All of those would be incredible coups and if they came off, this would surely be our best transfer window ever.
Sammy James, Fulhamish podcast
has he sighned where is it comfired?
Brighton signing Burn for £5 million according to Sky.
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
Brighton signing Burn for £5 million according to Sky.
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Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Tell me if I'm wrong, but if Target wanted to join us would he not have put a transfer request in?
I know there are signing on fee's etc which could be overcome.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
One thing for certain, shooting training will be a lot tougher with decent goalkeepers. Betts is still young for a GK, so a year trying to push himself and improve would not do him any harm by staying at Fulham. A prem team needs 3 quality keepers.
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
Not disputing your info, just commenting that it was a good spot
These really are exciting times - the khans are proving they have had a plan for us.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:57:32 AM
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Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
Not disputing your info, just commenting that it was a good spot
Tabby. I'd you have some spare time... someone is using my milk in the office fridge...
Not happy if we sell Betts.I would perhaps allow him to go on loan except to the Hahas.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
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Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
Not disputing your info, just commenting that it was a good spot
Can some one translate
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
Brighton signing Burn for £5 million according to Sky.
Could the historical re-enactment of the Schürrle hat-trick be on?
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
Not disputing your info, just commenting that it was a good spot
Can some one translate
"We will miss you brother. Arrived as a youngster, leaving as a man."
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
Not disputing your info, just commenting that it was a good spot
Can some one translate
"We will miss you brother. Arrived as a youngster, leaving as a man.
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Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
Buona Sarr, one of Anguissa's teammates has posted a farewell message to him. Looks set to sign.
How did you find that Columbo?
Looking at reddit. Here is the image.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkJu8NRWwAE_vdJ.jpg)
Not disputing your info, just commenting that it was a good spot
Can some one translate
I think the last bit says, you came small but leaving big
Matteo Pedrosi
Verified account @MatteoPedrosi
38s38 seconds ago
#ZamboAnguissa to @FulhamFC, done deal! 30m€ to OM, 4 year contract.
So Bryan, Anguissa and Montoya/Rico will that be it?
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Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 09, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: HV71 on August 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Been saying this for about a fortnight now. Fonte is no backup plan in my opinion.
Last years goals came from everywhere, that's our style of play. Also don't forget we have Sess and Schurrle
We still need a replacement for if Mitrovic is injured or hits a bad patch. There is no-one at all to fill the void. I'm a fan of Kamara but he is a completely different type of player and would not be a fit replacement as a number 9.
It's taken us 3 years to find a No. 9 like Mitro and most of the window to get it over the line.
I believe it may be tricky to find another like him in the last 10 hours of the the window.
:005:
We have others who can score in this team.
COYW!
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Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on August 09, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: HV71 on August 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
But where oh where are we linked to a striker ...... if Mitro gets injured ( even with the ever improving Kamara )we are going to be powder puff up front
Been saying this for about a fortnight now. Fonte is no backup plan in my opinion.
Last years goals came from everywhere, that's our style of play. Also don't forget we have Sess and Schurrle
We still need a replacement for if Mitrovic is injured or hits a bad patch. There is no-one at all to fill the void. I'm a fan of Kamara but he is a completely different type of player and would not be a fit replacement as a number 9.
It's taken us 3 years to find a No. 9 like Mitro and most of the window to get it over the line.
I believe it may be tricky to find another like him in the last 10 hours of the the window.
:005:
We have others who can score in this team.
COYW!
5 hours!
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 09, 2018, 12:15:06 PM
So Bryan, Anguissa and Montoya/Rico will that be it?
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Rumours of Luciano Vietto of Atleti but that came from someone on Twitter claiming they heard it through an ITK so I cant say for certain if it'll happen or not
Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2018, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
Fulham look like they're going to be busy on Transfer Deadline Day, which is very exciting. Personally, I'm happy with left-back Joe Bryan signing from Bristol City for £6m. Southampton clearly wanted too much money for Matty Targett, and it seems like Fulham weren't going to be pressured into paying top whack for him.
I think a left-back was the only signing we desperately needed, but it looks like Fulham won't rest there. I've seen rumours for Luciano Vietto, Martín Montoya and André-Frank Zambo Anguissa doing the rounds. All of those would be incredible coups and if they came off, this would surely be our best transfer window ever.
Sammy James, Fulhamish podcast
has he signed where is it comfirmed?
Not confirmed, just rumoured, but it could make sense that Marcus wants first team football.
Reminds me of Morgs leaving and not playing for us in the Prem
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
I'm fine if Betts leaves on loan if he's not going to be first choice.
if it is perm, they must think one of the young keepers (Rodak) is going to be better than Betts in a year
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
Brighton signing Burn for £5 million according to Sky.
Obviously preparing for next year in the Championship
Brighton have agreed a fee with Wigan for the Latics central defender Dan Burn.
The Premier League outfit will pay an initial £4m, with an addition £1m due if the various add-ons are met.
Burn only has 12 months left on his contract but it is thought he will be
loaned back to Wigan for the first half of the current campaign.
Quote from: Sevilla on August 09, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
So coming in as third choice maybe?
Thanks for the info.... and welcome
Quote from: Sevilla on August 09, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
That's pretty damning - that's two keepers brought in and both seemingly liabilities. Our downfall? Especially if Betts leaves
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Sevilla on August 09, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
That's pretty damning - that's two keepers brought in and both seemingly liabilities. Our downfall? Especially if Betts leaves
What he or she fails to mention is how the Sevilla supporters treated him like crap which knocked his confidence. if anyone can get him back to his best then it's our keeper coach
Montoya has landed in London to come and complete a medical with us!
Vietto links also being reported by media outlets on Twitter now
Apparently we're discussing a move for Oscar Pinchi...? No idea how accurate given its the daily mail...
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Montoya has landed in London to come and complete a medical with us!
http://sportwitness.co.uk/former-barcelona-player-landed-london-set-medicals-fulham/
Valencia right-back Martín Montoya has reportedly landed in London to complete his move to Fulham.
Outlet Estádio Deportivo claims they were informed that the player 'would have arrived' in the English capital ahead of his move to the Whites.
Even though the conditions of the Fulham deal are not clear, the report says that the Spaniard is now ready to have his medical with the West London side.
Fulham's first option for the right-back position was the Celta de Vigo player Hugo Mallo, Estádio Deportivo says. However, as the player is currently working on his contract renewal with the club, the Cottagers have chosen to go for Montoya instead.
The 27-year-old was expected to stay at Valencia this season, but the attempt from Fulham has changed both player and the club plans.
Other Premier League sides such as Brighton and Southampton were also interested in the former Barcelona player, but it's Fulham who are said to have won the race.
definitely more to the Rico stuff than those stats, from what I saw of him before he got the contract renewal he had potential to keep the #1 for a very long time there
Quote from: Tex on August 09, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Apparently we're discussing a move for Oscar Pinchi...? No idea how accurate given its the daily mail...
Think it's got lost in translation as Vietto is the one we're after, Pinchi only joined them recently so would be odd if we got him
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Montoya has landed in London to come and complete a medical with us!
http://sportwitness.co.uk/former-barcelona-player-landed-london-set-medicals-fulham/
Valencia right-back Martín Montoya has reportedly landed in London to complete his move to Fulham.
Outlet Estádio Deportivo claims they were informed that the player 'would have arrived' in the English capital ahead of his move to the Whites.
Even though the conditions of the Fulham deal are not clear, the report says that the Spaniard is now ready to have his medical with the West London side.
Fulham's first option for the right-back position was the Celta de Vigo player Hugo Mallo, Estádio Deportivo says. However, as the player is currently working on his contract renewal with the club, the Cottagers have chosen to go for Montoya instead.
The 27-year-old was expected to stay at Valencia this season, but the attempt from Fulham has changed both player and the club plans.
Other Premier League sides such as Brighton and Southampton were also interested in the former Barcelona player, but it's Fulham who are said to have won the race.
was just about to post this.
A world cup and champions league winner in the window. id be very happy with that...
Betts leaving would be disappointing to say the least. He and Joronen were thrown in at the deep end under Magath 4 years ago, with Betts going on to be one of the main reasons we avoided relegation. He came runner up in the fans' Player of the Season vote for the 14/15 campaign, and has usurped David button in each of the last two seasons, culminating in runs that lead us to the PlayOffs. The fact he's an academy player as well just extends the disappointment. As much as I'm looking forward to seeing our new players, I feel that those who stabilised the club and returned it to the EPL deserve a go at keeping us there.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Sevilla on August 09, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
That's pretty damning - that's two keepers brought in and both seemingly liabilities. Our downfall? Especially if Betts leaves
What he or she fails to mention is how the Sevilla supporters treated him like crap which knocked his confidence. if anyone can get him back to his best then it's our keeper coach
On the contrary, he had many people who defend him and thought he was a good goalkeeper. But over time and its failures in each game and few people defend it. And on top of that it's very bad professional
The before a party raised on a horse singing
https://www.cuatro.com/deportes/Sergio-Rico-caballo-rocio-copa_2_2567805176.html
Football's a hard world with little place for sentiment but I would feel bad for Betts if he lost out. Sound man - especially with that flare!
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Montoya has landed in London to come and complete a medical with us!
http://sportwitness.co.uk/former-barcelona-player-landed-london-set-medicals-fulham/
Valencia right-back Martín Montoya has reportedly landed in London to complete his move to Fulham.
Outlet Estádio Deportivo claims they were informed that the player 'would have arrived' in the English capital ahead of his move to the Whites.
Even though the conditions of the Fulham deal are not clear, the report says that the Spaniard is now ready to have his medical with the West London side.
Fulham's first option for the right-back position was the Celta de Vigo player Hugo Mallo, Estádio Deportivo says. However, as the player is currently working on his contract renewal with the club, the Cottagers have chosen to go for Montoya instead.
The 27-year-old was expected to stay at Valencia this season, but the attempt from Fulham has changed both player and the club plans.
Other Premier League sides such as Brighton and Southampton were also interested in the former Barcelona player, but it's Fulham who are said to have won the race.
I haven't had time to travel through the pages of internet past (possibly someone else does) but I seem to remember strong stories linking us with a move for Montoya about 6 or 7 years ago. Possibly under Hughes? Or Jol's first season?
This was back when he was still with Barcelona but not going to get a look in behind Dani Alves.
Wolves' proposed move for Manchester City defender Oleksander Zinchenko has fallen through, Sky Sports News understands.
Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
This could be a very exciting few hours
Quote from: APS on August 09, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
I've lost track who are the five?
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 12:57:39 PM
This could be a very exciting few hours
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Quote from: APS on August 09, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
Do you know of the names of all 5? I'm assuming Rica/Anguissa/Bryan/Montoya?
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: APS on August 09, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
Do you know of the names of all 5? I'm assuming Rica/Anguissa/Bryan/Montoya?
Those 4 Plus Luciano Vietto
First training session when all these players arrive from the 4 corners of the Earth. Joka will have to go along the line like the Queen. ' And what do you do?'
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
First training session when all these players arrive from the 4 corners of the Earth. Joka will have to go along the line like the Queen. ' And what do you do?'
Hahaha. Made me genuinely laugh out loud..
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
First training session when all these players arrive from the 4 corners of the Earth. Joka will have to go along the line like the Queen. ' And what do you do?'
Literally LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣
Take a bow, Lighthouse
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: APS on August 09, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
Do you know of the names of all 5? I'm assuming Rica/Anguissa/Bryan/Montoya?
Apart from Anguissa does anyone else get the impression there are a few panic buys amongst them. Given what business we've one so far seems these are a little lighter on quality than previous signings.
At this rate we might have to sell a player to fund those purchases - I wonder who it could be ?
Quote from: Sevilla on August 09, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
this is really a QPR fan using pretend broken english just rubbing it in because they are getting betts.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
First training session when all these players arrive from the 4 corners of the Earth. Joka will have to go along the line like the Queen. ' And what do you do?'
'Have you come far?'
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
Fulham look like they're going to be busy on Transfer Deadline Day, which is very exciting. Personally, I'm happy with left-back Joe Bryan signing from Bristol City for £6m. Southampton clearly wanted too much money for Matty Targett, and it seems like Fulham weren't going to be pressured into paying top whack for him.
I think a left-back was the only signing we desperately needed, but it looks like Fulham won't rest there. I've seen rumours for Luciano Vietto, Martín Montoya and André-Frank Zambo Anguissa doing the rounds. All of those would be incredible coups and if they came off, this would surely be our best transfer window ever.
Sammy James, Fulhamish podcast
I'd argue we get Bryan/a proper LB and it's still our best transfer season ever.
Quote from: The Rock on August 09, 2018, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
Fulham look like they're going to be busy on Transfer Deadline Day, which is very exciting. Personally, I'm happy with left-back Joe Bryan signing from Bristol City for £6m. Southampton clearly wanted too much money for Matty Targett, and it seems like Fulham weren't going to be pressured into paying top whack for him.
I think a left-back was the only signing we desperately needed, but it looks like Fulham won't rest there. I've seen rumours for Luciano Vietto, Martín Montoya and André-Frank Zambo Anguissa doing the rounds. All of those would be incredible coups and if they came off, this would surely be our best transfer window ever.
Sammy James, Fulhamish podcast
I'd argue we get Bryan/a proper LB and it's still our best transfer season ever.
it would be hard to ever remember another one like this.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Sevilla on August 09, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 09, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
That's pretty damning - that's two keepers brought in and both seemingly liabilities. Our downfall? Especially if Betts leaves
What he or she fails to mention is how the Sevilla supporters treated him like crap which knocked his confidence. if anyone can get him back to his best then it's our keeper coach
Hmmmm
Unfortunately our supporters aren't great in that respect.
Look at the abuse Button got.
We cant let Betts leave.
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Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
Do you know of the names of all 5? I'm assuming Rica/Anguissa/Bryan/Montoya?
Apart from Anguissa does anyone else get the impression there are a few panic buys amongst them. Given what business we've one so far seems these are a little lighter on quality than previous signings.
I'd say Bryan and Anguissa are quality signings whilst Montoya has serious pedigree with the caveat that all are unproven in the PL. That shouldn't be of concern though given the same applies to many new signings across all PL clubs.
I'm more concerned by the GK position.
I'm a huge Betts fan and have been completely underwhelmed by Fabri's performances that I witnessed first hand. He certainly doesn't appear to command the area a la Betts and I don't care so much about his purported superior distribution because that's superfluous to him keeping them out in the first place.
As for Rico, he seems to have polarised opinion at Seville and is younger than Betts
I'm glad Southampton not gonna get a penny for Targett. Obviously wanted to rip us off.. 063.gif
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
First training session when all these players arrive from the 4 corners of the Earth. Joka will have to go along the line like the Queen. ' And what do you do?'
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Quote from: cheese pie on August 09, 2018, 01:43:43 PM
I'm glad Southampton not gonna get a penny for Targett. Obviously wanted to rip us off.. 063.gif
I don't see Southampton's behavior that way. Don't think they ever wanted to sell but, they had a stupid money price set for him and if they could get Fulham up to it, they'd sell. Otherwise, happy to string us along if we're so willing to continually come in for him.
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 01:25:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 09, 2018, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: APS on August 09, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Looking like potentially 5 in today. Wow! Unbelievable backing from the owners if these all come off.
Do you know of the names of all 5? I'm assuming Rica/Anguissa/Bryan/Montoya?
Apart from Anguissa does anyone else get the impression there are a few panic buys amongst them. Given what business we've one so far seems these are a little lighter on quality than previous signings.
With FFP we couldn't afford 11 world class players even if we wanted them. What we need is a bit of depth because as it stands, we've still a relatively small squad. It was always going to be padded out with some cheaper signings at some stage. IMO we've made at least 3-4 signings that I'd put in the "marquee signing" bracket, another we sign Anguissa. That's more than enough surely.
I'd say so. My only concern is how quickly we can get them bedded down as a unit. We should temper our expectations on a Saturday, it will be like a training session for our starting eleven!
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I'd be particularly upset if Betts left due to Sergio Rico coming in.
The Sevilla fans seem pretty split on him. Sevilla did concede a fair few goals last season and conceded 4 or more on 6 occasions in the league.
I haven't done enough digging to see if Rico was in the side for all those games, but it doesn't paint a pretty a picture.
Hello, my team is Sevilla FC and the fans of Sevilla wanted Sergio Rico to leave Seville. You see what happens with Karius, because Sergio Rico is our Karius, but he does not fail a game the failure in all the matches. It is a goalkeeper that is not valid for the Premier or Spanish League. He is from Sevilla since he was small and played because our goalkeeper was injured. He made some good matches and went to the Spanish team, the contract was renewed. Then we realized that it was a very bad goalkeeper. He never leaves the goal, his football goal falls on his head ... Never take the ball with his hands, always clear because he knows it is very bad and to not always fail to clear the ball.
The goalkeeper who least takes balls
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/706f3ad27223924fc821c8510b27d9dd.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnx8SVPQR0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUTN-Nmn1k&t=23s
That's pretty damning - that's two keepers brought in and both seemingly liabilities. Our downfall? Especially if Betts leaves
What he or she fails to mention is how the Sevilla supporters treated him like crap which knocked his confidence. if anyone can get him back to his best then it's our keeper coach
Hmmmm
Unfortunately our supporters aren't great in that respect.
Look at the abuse Button got.
We cant let Betts leave.
Chelsea's new £70m+ goalkeeper is half way down that list.
According to MailOnline
Fulham set to sign Atletico Madrid forward Luciano Vietto on loan
Quote from: cheese pie on August 09, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
According to MailOnline
Fulham set to sign Atletico Madrid forward Luciano Vietto on loan
Is he any good?
Quote from: cheese pie on August 09, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
According to MailOnline
Fulham set to sign Atletico Madrid forward Luciano Vietto on loan
We're only allowed 2 loans for Europe, right? So only one of Vietto or Rico can be a loan due to Schurrle?
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: cheese pie on August 09, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
According to MailOnline
Fulham set to sign Atletico Madrid forward Luciano Vietto on loan
We're only allowed 2 loans for Europe, right? So only one of Vietto or Rico can be a loan due to Schurrle?
No the loan quotas dont count for foreign players, you can sign two PL loans in a single window, up to a max of 4 per season (2 in summer and 2 in winter window)
From MailOnline:
Martin Montoya has opted to join Brighton and Hove Albion.
The 27-year-old Spanish full-back had been in talks with Fulham but Chris Hughton has persuaded him to move to the south coast and the Valencia defender is poised to sign this afternoon.
Montoya will compete with Ezequiel Schelotto and veteran Brighton captain Bruno Saltor for a play in Hughton's starting XI.
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: cheese pie on August 09, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
According to MailOnline
Fulham set to sign Atletico Madrid forward Luciano Vietto on loan
We're only allowed 2 loans for Europe, right? So only one of Vietto or Rico can be a loan due to Schurrle?
No rule on amount of loans from outside the UK afaik.
Quote from: fulhamross on August 09, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
From MailOnline:
Martin Montoya has opted to join Brighton and Hove Albion.
The 27-year-old Spanish full-back had been in talks with Fulham but Chris Hughton has persuaded him to move to the south coast and the Valencia defender is poised to sign this afternoon.
Montoya will compete with Ezequiel Schelotto and veteran Brighton captain Bruno Saltor for a play in Hughton's starting XI.
That would be a huge surprise to me
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamross on August 09, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
From MailOnline:
Martin Montoya has opted to join Brighton and Hove Albion.
The 27-year-old Spanish full-back had been in talks with Fulham but Chris Hughton has persuaded him to move to the south coast and the Valencia defender is poised to sign this afternoon.
Montoya will compete with Ezequiel Schelotto and veteran Brighton captain Bruno Saltor for a play in Hughton's starting XI.
That would be a huge surprise to me
Especially because he's likely to be starting here.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on August 09, 2018, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamross on August 09, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
From MailOnline:
Martin Montoya has opted to join Brighton and Hove Albion.
The 27-year-old Spanish full-back had been in talks with Fulham but Chris Hughton has persuaded him to move to the south coast and the Valencia defender is poised to sign this afternoon.
Montoya will compete with Ezequiel Schelotto and veteran Brighton captain Bruno Saltor for a play in Hughton's starting XI.
That would be a huge surprise to me
Especially because he's likely to be starting here.
Sounds like a load of tosh. How reliable are the "MailOnline"?
"Oh, don't tell Daily Mails..... "
2 hours 26 minutes left.
Never felt so confident in a LB before as am I now.
Sky sports report at motspur -
Rico in London having talks and looks very likely
Bryan pretty much tied up
Marseille man still in France and are in talks remotely.
I hope there is still a hiddn gem to come out of nowhere
Damn this is incredibly exciting.
5 years ago before our last PL season we waited until midnight to sign.... Zverotic. Let that sink in.
Quote from: ProfficerFFC on August 09, 2018, 02:36:01 PM
Damn this is incredibly exciting.
5 years ago before our last PL season we waited until midnight to sign.... Zverotic. Let that sink in.
What a player he was :023:
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 02:35:38 PM
Sky sports report at motspur -
Rico in London having talks and looks very likely
Bryan pretty much tied up
Marseille man still in France and are in talks remotely.
I hope there is still a hiddn gem to come out of nowhere
Still in France? Can we do a remote medical as well? Getting him across plus the famous fulham medical in 2 1/2 hours would be a miracle
Quote from: Rambler on August 09, 2018, 02:50:15 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 02:35:38 PM
Sky sports report at motspur -
Rico in London having talks and looks very likely
Bryan pretty much tied up
Marseille man still in France and are in talks remotely.
I hope there is still a hiddn gem to come out of nowhere
Still in France? Can we do a remote medical as well? Getting him across plus the famous fulham medical in 2 1/2 hours would be a miracle
Reports have said it is being done in Marseille. Mitro did his in Belgium in January.
I would be more than happy with those 3. A RB would be a bonus though. COYW
Fulham win race for Martin Montoya
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 02:54:43 PM
Skysports: We understand the 3 most likely deals for Fulham today: Joe Bryan (Bristol City left-back), Sergio Rico (Sevilla GK - loan), Andre Anguissa (Marseille midfielder) #ffc @SkySportsNews #TransferDeadLineDay
Would happily settle for those 3 but please let's get some announced soon
they've got to scour the globe for the finest wordsmiths first, they cant let their standards drop
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
what will fulhamfc say - 'the full MONTOYA'
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
Did this come before or after the Montoya to Brighton stories began to hit? Hopefully after.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 09, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
Did this come before or after the Montoya to Brighton stories began to hit? Hopefully after.
it came after but since then it has swung the other way again and apparently he has rejected us and is signing for Brighton.....up in the air this one by the looks of things
Quote from: elgreenio on August 09, 2018, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 02:54:43 PM
Skysports: We understand the 3 most likely deals for Fulham today: Joe Bryan (Bristol City left-back), Sergio Rico (Sevilla GK - loan), Andre Anguissa (Marseille midfielder) #ffc @SkySportsNews #TransferDeadLineDay
Would happily settle for those 3 but please let's get some announced soon
they've got to scour the globe for the finest wordsmiths first, they cant let their standards drop
This is why I think we'll bring in 1 more, tops. Either that, or we'll be getting welcome posts on the club site into October, based on our web punster's output.
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 09, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
Did this come before or after the Montoya to Brighton stories began to hit? Hopefully after.
it came after but since then it has swung the other way again and apparently he has rejected us and is signing for Brighton.....up in the air this one by the looks of things
Reporter at Brighton said he is waiting confirmations that he has rejected us
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/08/09/claim-from-france-andre-zambo-anguissas-fulham-contract-details/385720/
Quote from: elgreenio on August 09, 2018, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 02:54:43 PM
Skysports: We understand the 3 most likely deals for Fulham today: Joe Bryan (Bristol City left-back), Sergio Rico (Sevilla GK - loan), Andre Anguissa (Marseille midfielder) #ffc @SkySportsNews #TransferDeadLineDay
Would happily settle for those 3 but please let's get some announced soon
they've got to scour the globe for the finest wordsmiths first, they cant let their standards drop
Didn't do a pun for Mitrovic. Season has been ruined before it began.
Read a lot of Marseille fans saying that Anguissa is more of a Box-box than a DM? Anyone care to chime in on this?
Nothing against BHA but I don't particularly see why they would look a better prospect. We look more ambitious and progressive. Maybe he likes the beach.
According to French outlet Foot Mercato, the midfielder's representatives have negotiated a four-year contract with Fulham, reserving an option to extend his stay for at least one more season.
The Cameroonian will be earning £67,000 a week, which is a huge jump from what he has been earning at Marseille.
Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/08/09/claim-from-france-andre-zambo-anguissas-fulham-contract-details/385720/#ixzz5NguE8Sly
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 09, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
Nothing against BHA but I don't particularly see why they would look a better prospect. We look more ambitious and progressive. Maybe he likes the beach.
Might be getting a better deal there, or a bigger role. Who knows.
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Southampton have no obligation to sell. Just think that the board should have taken the hint and moved on to other targets earlier.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Mark Hughes never really got this club... there was always tension there.
They may have just upped the price because they want him and wanted to test our resolve? Targett has apparently done a lot better for them this preseason than their fans expected. Set up two in one game I believe. Glad we're not chucking money away though - £15m is too much for him.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Read one Villa fan on Twitter say "Fulham are Satan" lmao!
Simon Peach on Twitter reckons we're trying to do 4. Bryan, Rico, Anguissa and I'm not sure who the 4th would be. One of Montoya, Mallo or Vietto on loan???
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Playoff final, Joe Bryan and something else we've done relatively recently has gone against them.. not sure they're a fan.. can see how big clubs can build substantial rivalries when they compete for silverware against each other so often..
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Mark Hughes never really got this club... there was always tension there.
They may have just upped the price because they want him and wanted to test our resolve? Targett has apparently done a lot better for them this preseason than their fans expected. Set up two in one game I believe. Glad we're not chucking money away though - £15m is too much for him.
Can confirm he had a decent half against Celta Vigo when, as a right back, he came on and set up two goals. In laws all STH'ers and been to most home friendlies have said 'hes improved but still not good enough to start but will be handy in squad for season.' He's really not rated by fans but are happy that a home grown is still around and improving. Time will tell.
Apart from Bryan, the rest are all loans which do not take as long to negotiate & the paperwork is less.
Quote from: grandad on August 09, 2018, 03:36:37 PM
Apart from Bryan, the rest are all loans which do not take as long to negotiate & the paperwork is less.
Anguissa isn't a loan....
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 03:31:51 PM
Simon Peach on Twitter reckons we're trying to do 4. Bryan, Rico, Anguissa and I'm not sure who the 4th would be. One of Montoya, Mallo or Vietto on loan???
Of those last three, I'd say we would be in greater need of Vietto as an alternative to Mitro. Having that extra quality in defense does sound great though.
Very much looking forward to discovering the situation with Betts. Ready for the transfer window to end and learn the full make-up of our roster for the season. The weekend can't come soon enough for me.
Montoya rejecting us, apparently Further tho those reports, it's my understanding that Fulham pulled the plug on the deal to pursue a different option
football.london/fulham-fc/fulh...
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Would like to see us go for Bryan, or anyone else just to spite them. No offence, but Villa are second tier so they should get it.
Quote from: Jem on August 09, 2018, 03:31:00 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 09, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
Love to know what Aston Villa fans feel about our club at the mo. On the flip side my feelings about Southampton have taken a severe nose dive since that berk Hughes took over.
Offered 15 million (5 million too much) and they came back with " give us 20"
Tell you what Southampton, Rev up and **** ***
Read one Villa fan on Twitter say "Fulham are Satan" lmao!
We are Satan, We are Satan,
We are Satan - from below
We are Satan, Evil Satan
We are Satan, **** Villa
AS Monaco right-back Almamy Touré has rejected an approach from Fulham bit.ly/AlmamFFC
Merson just gave us a lot of compliments suggesting we won't struggle at all, will play nice people still and have purchased extremely well and highlighted Mitrovic. Quite nice comments really.
With all the rumours and last minute hassle. Only two transfers, the keeper and Joe Bryan will definitely be completed. Well maybe. The rest is all up in the air. But so many other clubs are having the same problems with finalising deals.
1 HOUR LEFT!!!
Better get cracking Fulham....
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 03:59:55 PM
1 HOUR LEFT!!!
Better get cracking Fulham....
FFC have been Cracking all Transfer window
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 03:58:41 PM
With all the rumours and last minute hassle. Only two transfers, the keeper and Joe Bryan will definitely be completed. Well maybe. The rest is all up in the air. But so many other clubs are having the same problems with finalising deals.
Used to be that, if the recruitment process had progressed a certain distance, that signings could go on beyond the deadline. Has that changed as a part of the new transfer window rules? Or do deals have to be finalized by 5 pm?
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 09, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
Nothing against BHA but I don't particularly see why they would look a better prospect. We look more ambitious and progressive. Maybe he likes the beach.
No sand on the beach - it is all sharp and pointy stones
I'm resigning myself to 2 signings in Bryan and Rica......
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 09, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
Did this come before or after the Montoya to Brighton stories began to hit? Hopefully after.
it came after but since then it has swung the other way again and apparently he has rejected us and is signing for Brighton.....up in the air this one by the looks of things
Can't stand players who agree to sign for one club and then go and sign for another!! :( x
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 09, 2018, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 09, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Montoya to sign (apparently) https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/fulham/transfer-talk/news/fulham-win-race-for-martin-montoya_332887.html
2 hrs to go
Did this come before or after the Montoya to Brighton stories began to hit? Hopefully after.
it came after but since then it has swung the other way again and apparently he has rejected us and is signing for Brighton.....up in the air this one by the looks of things
Can't stand players who agree to sign for one club and then go and sign for another!! :( x
Looking at you Joe Bryan....
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 09, 2018, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 03:58:41 PM
With all the rumours and last minute hassle. Only two transfers, the keeper and Joe Bryan will definitely be completed. Well maybe. The rest is all up in the air. But so many other clubs are having the same problems with finalising deals.
Used to be that, if the recruitment process had progressed a certain distance, that signings could go on beyond the deadline. Has that changed as a part of the new transfer window rules? Or do deals have to be finalized by 5 pm?
I think you are correct. A contract of intent has to be placed or something. Too complicated for the likes of me.
We've probably already tied the deals up... They hold them back to create a bit more drama!
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2018, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 03:59:55 PM
1 HOUR LEFT!!!
Better get cracking Fulham....
need some bloody announcements...
they will announce all of them together - so hopefully 1 done, finalizing the other (s)
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
We've probably already tied the deals up... They hold them back to create a bit more drama!
4 way announcement, they will do something crazy like a scene from the inbetweeners for their revealing
Fulham are closing in on a deal to sign Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United, according to Sky sources.
Weird one
Athletico have signed striker Kalinic from AC Milan, may mean we have Vietto on the way!
Tom Barclay-
Whoah. Told Luciano Vietto is set to join Fulham from Atlético Madrid #ffc
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:15:33 PM
Fulham are closing in on a deal to sign Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United, according to Sky sources.
Weird one
I hope not
They are just building the suspense
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:15:33 PM
Fulham are closing in on a deal to sign Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United, according to Sky sources.
Weird one
He was playing at RB at Villa, but he is better in the middle of the pitch. We have plenty of CB's, and if we get the Marseille lad there'd be little room there either.
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:15:33 PM
Fulham are closing in on a deal to sign Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United, according to Sky sources.
Weird one
I hope not
Looks like the club is desperately seeking a RB, down to 4th or 5th choice on the list now.
Edit: Disappointed the lad from Monaco turned us down. Must be happier with tax free wages!
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 04:16:56 PM
Tom Barclay-
Whoah. Told Luciano Vietto is set to join Fulham from Atlético Madrid #ffc
Lots of noise about this on twitter now, would be happy with Vietto as backup to Mitro.
Vietto wonderkid on FM few years ago
For me would be very happy with this deal. You don't play for the Netherlands if your crap lets be honest.
Fulham will not be signing Martin Montoya on deadline day after the club stalled on a deal and have now chosen to move on an alternate option.
Reports suggested that the Valencia man had rejected the side in favour of a move to Brighton and Hove Albion, but football.london understands that it was in fact Fulham who stalled on the move.
The club have been after a right back in this window and Montoya looked to be that man, but the Cottagers will instead move on to a different target after opting to pull the plug on the deal for the former Barcelona man and he now looks set to join Brighton and Hove Albion.
Just on Twitter:
Luciano Vietto, new Fulham player. The English have reached an agreement with Atlético de Madrid. The Argentine forward leaves the Spanish League and joins the Premier looking to recover his level. He had offers from Turkey and Russia, but preferred the Premier
Translated from Spanish, from someone called Ruben Uria Eurosport and beinsport
Simon peach -
Vietto, Rico, Bryan, Anguissa - decent business if Fulham get them over the line before the deadline. Might not be *just* them either 😂 ⏳
Quote from: brightster on August 09, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Just on Twitter:
Luciano Vietto, new Fulham player. The English have reached an agreement with Atlético de Madrid. The Argentine forward leaves the Spanish League and joins the Premier looking to recover his level. He had offers from Turkey and Russia, but preferred the Premier League.
Awesome, he was the next big thing - the new Aguero and all that - but has fallen off the radar a little in the last couple of years. Still pretty young and has bags of talent, and always the potential to do something spectacular on a footy pitch.
Seriously. Anyone else's head spinning?
Also on Sky headline now defender Timothy fosu-menser from Man U
Just one Vietto
Please sign for me
Quote from: WOTM on August 09, 2018, 04:27:06 PM
Seriously. Anyone else's head spinning?
what a transfer window. I am v.optimistic for the season once the players bed in, especially the back 4 / 5 which is completely new
Personally I'm more excited about the signing of fosu mensah than the deal for chambers. Hopefully Fulham get this wrapped up.
Also on Sky now
16:30
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham are close to agreeing the loan signing of striker Luciano Vietto from Atletico Madrid, according to Sky sources.
Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on August 09, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Personally I'm more excited about the signing of fosu mensah than the deal for chambers. Hopefully Fulham get this wrapped up.
Really! 12 games for Man U and 21 for palace last season on loan.
Mensah is 20 & can play RB, DM or CM. Probably one for the future or as backup.
I hope they're not all loans, or at least loans with an option to buy
fosu a good shout - only 20 - plenty of potential and play 3 times for holland
26 mins to get all these signings done ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
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Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on August 09, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Personally I'm more excited about the signing of fosu mensah than the deal for chambers. Hopefully Fulham get this wrapped up.
Really!
Really. Did you watch any of arsenal last season? Chambers is suspect at best. Fosu mensah can play in 3 positions big and strong and is only 20 years old and a full international. Has great potential.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3QHTiC_ZVg
Vietto's goal on 2 minutes 30 secs is ridiculous. Shows his class.
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
I hope they're not all loans, or at least loans with an option to buy
Rico is just a loan, not sure about Fosu Mensah, Vietto is a loan to perm, Bryan and Anguissa are perms
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Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
I hope they're not all loans, or at least loans with an option to buy
Rico is just a loan, not sure about Fosu Mensah, Vietto is a loan to perm, Bryan and Anguissa are perms
How sure are you that Vietto is loan to perm? Where did you hear that?
Quote from: Andyb on August 09, 2018, 04:34:47 PM
26 mins to get all these signings done ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Not true, they'll have submitted deal sheets to the Premier League to get an extension to sort the deals out. Tom Barclay says the Rico loan is done and I think Bryan is also done so it's just the other three, but as I say they'll probably submit deal sheets to ensure they've got the time needed
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Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on August 09, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Personally I'm more excited about the signing of fosu mensah than the deal for chambers. Hopefully Fulham get this wrapped up.
Really!
Really. Did you watch any of arsenal last season? Chambers is suspect at best. Fosu mensah can play in 3 positions big and strong and is only 20 years old and a full international. Has great potential.
Chambers did better for Boro than Mensah did for Palace. Potential doesn't matter much when it is a loan.
I can't see anything about vietto. Anyone any solid links?
Less than half an hour to go and Fulham still have five irons in the fire - remember, deadline can go to 7pm if they get a deal sheet in - we could be here a while!
just seen that Atletico have signed Kalinic as well, just to add fuel to the Vietto fire.
I imagine we'll have to wait a few more hours for announcements on anything anyway
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Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on August 09, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Personally I'm more excited about the signing of fosu mensah than the deal for chambers. Hopefully Fulham get this wrapped up.
Really!
Really. Did you watch any of arsenal last season? Chambers is suspect at best. Fosu mensah can play in 3 positions big and strong and is only 20 years old and a full international. Has great potential.
Chambers did better for Boro than Mensah did for Palace. Potential doesn't matter much when it is a loan.
When was that 3 years ago? And how better by getting relegated with Boro?...fosu mensah had a few injuries last year that's why he didn't rack up more appearances.
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Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
I hope they're not all loans, or at least loans with an option to buy
Rico is just a loan, not sure about Fosu Mensah, Vietto is a loan to perm, Bryan and Anguissa are perms
How sure are you that Vietto is loan to perm? Where did you hear that?
https://twitter.com/TomBarclay_/status/1027575921673420802
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on August 09, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3QHTiC_ZVg
Vietto's goal on 2 minutes 30 secs is ridiculous. Shows his class.
Call that a lob ...
Bristol City have just signed a left back, Jay Dasilva from Chelsea, so Bryan must be done
Ok if we get a 'Deal Sheet' lodged in time 5PM we have until 7 PM tonight to finalise everything.
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Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
I hope they're not all loans, or at least loans with an option to buy
Rico is just a loan, not sure about Fosu Mensah, Vietto is a loan to perm, Bryan and Anguissa are perms
let's see if Vietto will be loan to perm, rather than just loan
Fosu mensah will be loan
if all that happens it will be 5 on loan. that's a lot.
we used loan system to great effect last season
Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on August 09, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
When was that 3 years ago? And how better by getting relegated with Boro?...fosu mensah had a few injuries last year that's why he didn't rack up more appearances.
It was two seasons ago. Keep in mind that Collins John got two caps for Netherlands, when they were a much better side than they are now.
Fosu Mensah was outperformed by Joel Ward.
Fosu Mensah might not be a loan deal, fee Man U fans are led to believe its Permanent
fosu mensa was no where in the rumours - just shows that sometimes deals come out of the blue
Loans as well as permanent signings must help FFP wise also!
Bristol City have landed Jay DaSilva. Frees up Joe Bryan to move?
Even if nothing comes through, this deadline day has been super exciting - some really good names we've been linked witg
Personally reckon all the deals are done. The clubs offal twitter account are totally loving with everyone which you wouldn't be doing unless you were about to announce a bundle of signings! They've been tweeting out pants stuff all afternoon!
Anyone else feeling like Anguissa isn't happening? Would be thrilled if we pull this one off - seen quite a bit of him and he is a quality player. Unfortunately my gut feeling is it's not going to happen for some reason
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Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on August 09, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
When was that 3 years ago? And how better by getting relegated with Boro?...fosu mensah had a few injuries last year that's why he didn't rack up more appearances.
It was two seasons ago. Keep in mind that Collins John got two caps for Netherlands, when they were a much better side than they are now.
Fosu Mensah was outperformed by Joel Ward.
I'm not saying fosu mensah is a world beater by any means. I think he has potential and is versatile. Plus mourinho loves getting rid of raw talent before they flourish. I just think chambers was a shambles last season except for toward the end. But yet again so was the whole arsenal team.
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Anyone else feeling like Anguissa isn't happening? Would be thrilled if we pull this one off - seen quite a bit of him and he is a quality player. Unfortunately my gut feeling is it's not going to happen for some reason
What make you say this? It was one of the one who was first reported this morning
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Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 04:46:56 PM
Anyone else feeling like Anguissa isn't happening? Would be thrilled if we pull this one off - seen quite a bit of him and he is a quality player. Unfortunately my gut feeling is it's not going to happen for some reason
What make you say this? It was one of the one who was first reported this morning
No idea, possibly as I want it to happen so feel like it won't! Ha
Plus, what with the other deals being spoken of at this time of day it seems to have gone a tad quiet with him
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Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 04:46:56 PM
Anyone else feeling like Anguissa isn't happening? Would be thrilled if we pull this one off - seen quite a bit of him and he is a quality player. Unfortunately my gut feeling is it's not going to happen for some reason
What make you say this? It was one of the one who was first reported this morning
I would suggest that as everyone has been writing articles about his new wages, it would be odd if we then didn't sign him...
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 04:46:56 PM
Anyone else feeling like Anguissa isn't happening? Would be thrilled if we pull this one off - seen quite a bit of him and he is a quality player. Unfortunately my gut feeling is it's not going to happen for some reason
Wouldn't be Fulham without at least one signing coming unglued at the late minute.
Quote from: corbs83 on August 09, 2018, 04:51:17 PM
breaking news - on sky
loan Vietto done
? they just literally said if we get the paper work done
Breaking | Marseille & Fulham now have a total agreement for the transfer of André Frank Zambo Anguissa, according to L'Équipe. More follows.
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breaking news - on sky
loan Vietto done
? they just literally said if we get the paper work done
bit premature with that. i sent it as they were speaking as he sounded excited! sorry. just removed the quote....excitment was to do with us trying to sign 5 players still!! this is mad!!
Deal sheet submitted by 5 gives clubs 2 extra hours. Expect lots of signings to be announced way after the deadline has passed.
Apparently deals have fallen through on the last day but the club have managed to switch to alternate players in time. Although when we will know about it I don't know.
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breaking news - on sky
loan Vietto done
? they just literally said if we get the paper work done
bit premature with that. i sent it as they were speaking as he sounded excited! sorry. just removed the quote....excitment was to do with us trying to sign 5 players still!! this is mad!!
no probs, weve all been their
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 09, 2018, 04:54:21 PM
Breaking | Marseille & Fulham now have a total agreement for the transfer of André Frank Zambo Anguissa, according to L'Équipe. More follows.
Thought I'd read that personal terms were already agreed. If all is true, then one down. Four to go.
5pm announcement i reckon
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
Apparently deals have fallen through on the last day but the club have managed to switch to alternate players in time. Although when we will know about it I don't know.
We end up signing Liam rosenior, Dan burn and ryan tunnicliffe 😤😳
Why no mention of Chris Martin? 😆🤣😆🤣
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
Apparently deals have fallen through on the last day but the club have managed to switch to alternate players in time. Although when we will know about it I don't know.
We end up signing Liam rosenior, Dan burn and ryan tunnicliffe 😤😳
Dan has played right back before. :hook:
We will have to be a little more patient, Fulham will reveal any new recruits when they are ready, not long to go now. Lots been happening, I just hope we can get some players over the line one way or another.
Any words on our potential outs? I suppose they dont have to be done today? Galatasary for example can sign Rui whenever they
Everton spinning dollar again, Mina has signed for £30m
Quote from: David I on August 09, 2018, 04:58:49 PM
Why no mention of Chris Martin? 😆🤣😆🤣
He has a Tour coming up and cannot commit until after Christmas!! :)
slam
Roll on the signings.... on the hour, every hour
Apparently paperwork can be completed up to 7pm.
Imagine we signed no one haha
Wigan defender Dan Burn has signed joined Brighton for an undisclosed fee.
Burn, who had 12 months to run on his existing Wigan contract, will stay at the DW Stadium on loan until January 1.
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 05:02:45 PM
Wigan defender Dan Burn has signed joined Brighton for an undisclosed fee.
Burn, who had 12 months to run on his existing Wigan contract, will stay at the DW Stadium on loan until January 1.
Paying £5 million for the last 6 months of a contract is a strange one indeed.
Not even the BBC's and Sky's are mentioning any LB.
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
yes yes yes yes yes,..............
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
That's dirty. The deadline day excitement continues...
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
If the medical team are in France then there is noone here to do any
BRIGHTON 'SNATCH MONTOYA'
Sky sources: Brighton appear to have snatched Martin Montoya from the clutches of Fulham.
Sky Sports News understands that, in the last few hours, the Seagulls have agreed a deal with Valencia and the right-back is close to completing the move to the south coast.
Earlier on Deadline Day we told you that Fulham were in talks for the 27-year-old Montoya to fill the void at right-back.
But Fulham have now moved on to Manchester United's Timothy Fosu-Mensah and they are close to bringing him to Craven Cottage.
Cairney. Seri. Anguissa
One of the best midfields in the league
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BRIGHTON 'SNATCH MONTOYA'
Sky sources: Brighton appear to have snatched Martin Montoya from the clutches of Fulham.
Sky Sports News understands that, in the last few hours, the Seagulls have agreed a deal with Valencia and the right-back is close to completing the move to the south coast.
Earlier on Deadline Day we told you that Fulham were in talks for the 27-year-old Montoya to fill the void at right-back.
But Fulham have now moved on to Manchester United's Timothy Fosu-Mensah and they are close to bringing him to Craven Cottage.
montoya no big loss
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 05:09:07 PM
Cairney. Seri. Anguissa
One of the best midfields in the league
it says alot that cairney will now be looking over his shoulder - lots of competition for places - come on fulham.
Done deal!! 30 mill!!
Rico on loan confirmed official
Over £100 mil spent. What an insane window. It hasn´t sunk in yet.
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 05:13:25 PM
Rico on loan confirmed official
Where is it official?
Fosu-Mensah has arrived at MP. Footage of his arrival was on SPN just now
I cant get on the official
Well what an amazing window over a 100 mill,id have a lie down in a dark room if I wasn't in the pub!
what about bryan - no official word yet?
rico confirmed
Rico on fulham twitter
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC
Historico is a decent pun at least.
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have confirmed the signing of goalkeeper Sergio Rico from Sevilla
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 09, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
Rico on fulham twitter
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC
Underwhelmed by another keeper. Seems like a panic. May have problems there.
if it helps:
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1027590009648570369
Joan Luque [Heybridge Swifts - Lincoln] Undisclosed
Nice to see a female making the breakthough into male football
Surely Rico must be loan + option? A 1 year loan doesnt really make sense
Any word on Joe Bryan. ?
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 05:22:04 PM
Surely Rico must be loan + option? A 1 year loan doesnt really make sense
just says one year loan
ulham Football Club Retweeted
Tony Khan
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@TonyKhan
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I'm excited to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Sergio Rico on loan from Sevilla. Sergio is a world class goalkeeper, and now he's joining a very talented cast of goalkeepers under contract at FFC, making our squad as strong as possible for the @premierleague. Come on Fulham!
Tony Khan calling him a "world class goalkeeper". Rico will be the starter then.
110 million spent then? Wow, this is incredible.
we must keep betts
The IT department must be in over-drive right now. Perfectly synchronised to upload to Facebook, the website, tweet it, and then retweet Tony Khans announcement just 15 seconds after he tweeted!
We're on FIRE!!
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 05:23:34 PM
Tony Khan calling him a "world class goalkeeper". Rico will be the starter then.
Last I checked Slav picked the team, not Tony Khan...
If we secure the Marseille DM and Joe Bryan I'll be over the moon with this window... Absolutely mind-boggling business we've done.
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Tony Khan calling him a "world class goalkeeper". Rico will be the starter then.
Last I checked Slav picked the team, not Tony Khan...
If we secure the Marseille DM and Joe Bryan I'll be over the moon with this window... Absolutely mind-boggling business we've done.
Would be pretty embarrasing to bring in a player and hype him up to such a degree if the manager wasn't going to play him.
It must be they got Fabri and then didn't fancy the look of him.
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110 million spent then? Wow, this is incredible.
Let's not count our chickens until they've been announced
I think there having problems keeping up!
Fosu Mensah is at motspur now sky showed it so that is done as it was just a medical to complete
I'm very happy, really pleased to have signed for the oldest club in the Premier League. I'm excited to start training, to meet all my teammates and, above all, to enjoy the season that starts this Saturday." - @sergiorico25
🧤 #HISTÓRICO
TEN DEAL SHEETS IN!
We understand that the Premier League is presently processing 10 deal sheets. This gives the clubs involved an additional two hours to complete their transfer deals.
Effectively this allows the clubs involved until 7pm to complete the paperwork/finalities. This is 10 different deals, rather than 10 different clubs, and all of these deals involve PL clubs.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
I'm very happy, really pleased to have signed for the oldest club in the Premier League. I'm excited to start training, to meet all my teammates and, above all, to enjoy the season that starts this Saturday." - @sergiorico25
🧤 #HISTÓRICO
Everton est. 1878
Wolves est. 1877
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 05:28:25 PM
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Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 05:23:34 PM
Tony Khan calling him a "world class goalkeeper". Rico will be the starter then.
Last I checked Slav picked the team, not Tony Khan...
If we secure the Marseille DM and Joe Bryan I'll be over the moon with this window... Absolutely mind-boggling business we've done.
Would be pretty embarrasing to bring in a player and hype him up to such a degree if the manager wasn't going to play him.
He may well end up being 1st choice, but my point is ultimately Slav won't pick his GK based on TK tweeting that he's world class so don't read too much into that.
Anywho - NEXT!
We need Bryan
Sky thinks Fosu Mensah is a signing not a loan
arent we only allowed four loan siginings? so the man u kid must be a perm
Joe Bryan = official
#BRYLLIANT
Bryan officially announced
It looks like 5 deals about to be announced including Bryan
Sky have a reporter outside Motspur!
When was the last time THAT happened???
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2018, 05:40:20 PM
arent we only allowed four loan siginings? so the man u kid must be a perm
Two loan signings from England at a time, four at most over a season. No such limit on foreign loans AFAIK.
We would have Chambers and Fosu Mensah if he signs, so all within limits.
Run out of fingers but I make it potentially 11 signings this window.
JOE BRYAN CONFIRMED OFFICIAL
https://twitter.com/fulhamfc/status/1027595360078770176?s=21
Crap tats on his right leg
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 05:40:40 PM
Joe Bryan = official
#BRYLLIANT
yes happy with this. was our weakest position by far. and glad we didnt bow to saints demands for targett
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We need Bryan
hes not the messiah
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We need Bryan
hes not the messiah
mensah can play anywhere along the back line as 2footed.
hove - your not a monty python fan then?
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Joe Bryan = official
#BRYLLIANT
yes happy with this. was our weakest position by far. and glad we didnt bow to saints demands for targett
this is the most important signing today - even though not the most expensive
Now Fosu Mensah is a loan again! #Skysportsnews
The Club is delighted to confirm the signing of Joe Bryan from Bristol City for an undisclosed fee.
The left-back has signed a four-year-deal with Fulham, with a Club option to extend by a further year.
Bryan, 24, has established himself as one of the finest left-backs outside the top flight over the last few seasons, helping the Robins enjoy a number of successful campaigns on the pitch.
Born in Bristol, Bryan progressed through City's academy and made his Championship debut in a 3-2 win over Leicester City as an 18-year-old in March 2012.
The following season he played 12 times in the Championship during the first half of the season, prior to a loan switch to Plymouth Argyle, who he helped remain in the Football League.
In his absence, Bristol City had slipped into League One, but in the two seasons that followed he continued his development having established himself as the club's first choice left-back.
After a campaign of consolidation, 2014/15 was a hugely successful one for City, with Bryan scoring seven times in 50 appearances as they won the title with 99 points and claimed the Football League Trophy at Wembley.
In their first campaign back in the second tier, the Robins comfortably avoided relegation, a feat they replicated in 2016/17.
Bryan then played a pivotal role in one of their best ever campaigns. A fantastic start to proceedings saw City establish themselves as promotion contenders, and although they were unable to sustain their league form, they still secured a top half finish.
They really captured the nation's attention in the League Cup, though, when they reached the Semi-Finals.
Having already knocked out Premier League Stoke City and Crystal Palace, Manchester United arrived at Ashton Gate in the Quarter-Final, with Bryan opening the scoring with a stunning strike in a 2-1 win.
The other Manchester side awaited in the last-four, but the eventual winners proved too strong despite a spirited Robins display, with City claiming a 5-3 aggregate win across two legs.
A real fan favourite, Bryan departs his boyhood club having made 230 appearances, during which time he scored 20 goals.
Speaking from Motspur Park after putting pen to paper, Bryan said: "Playing against Fulham the last couple of years, the style of play has really stood out to me and it will suit me.
"The opportunity to play in the Premier League is one you can't turn down as you may never get it again in your lifetime.
"I'm used to playing fast attacking football, so hopefully I can slot right in."
Tony Khan added: "I'm pleased to announce that Fulham Football Club has signed Joe Bryan. Joe is a gifted young player, and we have seen first hand that he is a fierce competitor in our recent clashes against Bristol City in the Championship.
"He's a promising addition to the squad, and we are excited to welcome Joe to the club! Come on Fulham!"
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We need Bryan
hes not the messiah
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
We need Bryan
hes not the messiah
mensah can play anywhere along the back line as 2footed.
hove - your not a monty python fan then?
well always look on the bright side
They have arguably had the best transfer window out of all 20 Premier League clubs
Fulham have been hard at work during this summer's transfer window, recruiting some very talented players who should bed into the squad seamlessly.
Aleksandar Mitrović made his loan from Newcastle permament, André Schürlle joined the Cottagers on a two year loan from Borussia Dortmund, and Jean Michael Seri signed from OGC Nice despite interest from several big clubs around Europe.
They've also reunited England's U21 defensive partnership from last summer with the acquisitions of Alfie Mawson and Calum Chambers, and now look set to complete two more loan deals to wrap up a fantastic window.
According to reports, loan moves for Timothy Fosu-Mensah and Luciano Vietto are expected to be announced by Fulham this afternoon. Fosu-Mensah joins from Manchester United after a relatively successful loan spell at Crystal Palace last season and an impressive pre-season tour, while Vietto joins from Atlético Madrid, having struggled to break into the team ahead of Angel Correa and Kevin Gameiro.
The deadline closed at 5pm but expect to see a few transfers announced after the deadline as the photoshoots and social media content is lined up.
If Fulham get both these deals over the line, it would wrap up a hugely successful window for them, although it's difficult to judge before the season has started.
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Joe Bryan = official
#BRYLLIANT
yes happy with this. was our weakest position by far. and glad we didnt bow to saints demands for targett
this is the most important signing today - even though not the most expensive
I tend to agree. Bryan has been one of the best LBs in the Championship, LB was our weakest position, Sess won't need to play at LB where he is wasted. All in all an important signing.
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Joe Bryan = official
#BRYLLIANT
yes happy with this. was our weakest position by far. and glad we didnt bow to saints demands for targett
this is the most important signing today - even though not the most expensive
I tend to agree. Bryan has been one of the best LBs in the Championship, LB was our weakest position, Sess won't need to play at LB where he is wasted. All in all an important signing.
yeah - and bryan has earned his shot at the big time
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Now Fosu Mensah is a loan again! #Skysportsnews
naturally
better to be a loan a this stage - if he excels then we can look to buy him as a perm in due course.
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Now Fosu Mensah is a loan again! #Skysportsnews
naturally
better to be a loan a this stage - if he excels then we can look to buy him as a perm in due course.
You're obviously not a Gilbert O'Sullivan fan are you?
Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
How do you even say that name?
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Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
Obviously they must go with "Stop the ANGUISH!".
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Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
i thought they had - i'm losing track
Well Fosu-Mensah should be 'Immense'
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I will have to buy the MatchAttax cards to get to know all these players. Haven't got a clue who they are, if they are any good or what they look like 😂😂😂😂😂
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Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
i thought they had - i'm losing track
Media has announced it, including that our medical team are in France
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
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Quote from: Barrett487 on August 09, 2018, 05:40:40 PM
Joe Bryan = official
#BRYLLIANT
yes happy with this. was our weakest position by far. and glad we didnt bow to saints demands for targett
this is the most important signing today - even though not the most expensive
I tend to agree. Bryan has been one of the best LBs in the Championship, LB was our weakest position, Sess won't need to play at LB where he is wasted. All in all an important signing.
yeah - and bryan has earned his shot at the big time
As opposed to playing for a minor club in the Midlands . Up yours Bruce 😂😂😂😂
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:yay: So someone in marketing thought "I have a great idea, every time we sign a new player I will write a funny caption which includes their name"
Can we guess what they are sat there thinking this afternoon? Next time, keep ideas to myself! 👍⚽ 049:gif :005:
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Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
i thought they had - i'm losing track
Media has announced it, including that our medical team are in France
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
Agreeing a deal is not the same as saying they've signed
Just Vietto & Fosu Mensah to get over the line then
THE 10 DEAL SHEETS
These are the 10 deal sheets we believe are in with the Premier League. These deals must be done by 7pm...
Brighton – Montoya
Everton – Zouma, Gomes
Cardiff – Arter
Fulham – Anguissa, Fosu-Mensah, Vietto
Newcastle - Fernandez
Southampton - Ings
Watford - Quina
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:yay: So someone in marketing thought "I have a great idea, every time we sign a new player I will write a funny caption which includes their name"
Can we guess what they are sat there thinking this afternoon? Next time, keep ideas to myself! 👍⚽ 049:gif :005:
would almost be worth giving danny shittu a one month contract, just to see what they come up with
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THE 10 DEAL SHEETS
These are the 10 deal sheets we believe are in with the Premier League. These deals must be done by 7pm...
Brighton – Montoya
Everton – Zouma, Gomes
Cardiff – Arter
Fulham – Anguissa, Fosu-Mensah, Vietto
Newcastle - Fernandez
Southampton - Ings
Watford - Quina
not gonna lie, id find it highly amusing if the montoya deal fell through
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:yay: So someone in marketing thought "I have a great idea, every time we sign a new player I will write a funny caption which includes their name"
Can we guess what they are sat there thinking this afternoon? Next time, keep ideas to myself! 👍⚽ 049:gif :005:
would almost be worth giving danny shittu a one month contract, just to see what they come up with
I'm glad they didn't do this when Damian Duff joined us
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Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
i thought they had - i'm losing track
Media has announced it, including that our medical team are in France
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
Agreeing a deal is not the same as saying they've signed
yep, steve bruce can attest to that
Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
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Wish the club would announce Anguissa! Maybe they are struggling to think of a pun for the headline? :D
yep, steve bruce can attest to that
i thought they had - i'm losing track
Media has announced it, including that our medical team are in France
17:05
BREAKING NEWS
Fulham have agreed £30m deal to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa. The Fulham medical team are in France for the medical
Agreeing a deal is not the same as saying they've signed
I know, i was just explaining why it wasn't official yet Ben
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not gonna lie, id find it highly amusing if the montoya deal fell through
According to Tony Khan, it was Fulham that moved on rather than Montoya turning the move down, as some reported.
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:yay: So someone in marketing thought "I have a great idea, every time we sign a new player I will write a funny caption which includes their name"
Can we guess what they are sat there thinking this afternoon? Next time, keep ideas to myself! 👍⚽ 049:gif :005:
would almost be worth giving danny shittu a one month contract, just to see what they come up with
I'm glad they didn't do this when Damian Duff joined us
is it worth bringing Germany's Stefan Kuntz out of retirement.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2018, 06:05:21 PM
not gonna lie, id find it highly amusing if the montoya deal fell through
According to Tony Khan, it was Fulham that moved on rather than Montoya turning the move down, as some reported.
hmmmmm sounds like a guy whose just been dumped by his girlfriend.
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Fulham are closing in on a deal to sign Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United, according to Sky sources.
Weird one
I hope not
Why not?
Some transfer fees from BBC:
Fulham are set to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Anguissa in a £22.3m deal and have signed Bristol City left-back Joe Bryan for £6m and Sevilla goalkeeper Sergio Rico on loan.
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Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
Just when I thought TK couldn't be more of a legend 👋
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Fulham are closing in on a deal to sign Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United, according to Sky sources.
Weird one
I hope not
Why not?
Because I was never overally impressed when I watched the few games on sky and after seeing reviews from Crystal Palace fans they didn't seem too fussed by him last season. Must admit I'm going off fans comments so will have to reserve judgement.
Finally I don't like taking youngsters and being used as a training camp for other prem clubs who have all these youngsters on loan
So what are we expecting to be announced in the next hour? Timothy Fosu-Mensah, Andre-Frank Anguissa and Luciano Vietto?
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So what are we expecting to be announced in the next hour? Timothy Fosu-Mensah, Andre-Frank Anguissa and Luciano Vietto?
Those three, yes. Get them over the line and I think we have good cover all over the pitch.
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Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
Just when I thought TK couldn't be more of a legend 👋
Wonder who we went for instead? Mensah? Montoya not better? Or is there someone else we don't know about?
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Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
Just when I thought TK couldn't be more of a legend 👋
tonys got a bit of a fan club going there.
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So what are we expecting to be announced in the next hour? Timothy Fosu-Mensah, Andre-Frank Anguissa and Luciano Vietto?
yes
Quote from: twang on August 09, 2018, 06:13:21 PM
Some transfer fees from BBC:
Fulham are set to sign Marseille midfielder Andre-Frank Anguissa in a £22.3m deal and have signed Bristol City left-back Joe Bryan for £6m and Sevilla goalkeeper Sergio Rico on loan.
Funny how the fees sometimes vary so much - some media outlets reporting Anguissa for £30m and BBC £22m
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Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
Just when I thought TK couldn't be more of a legend 👋
Wonder who we went for instead? Mensah? Montoya not better? Or is there someone else we don't know about?
Was a brief rumour of Almamy Touré of Monaco turning us down.
Golly gosh!!
Would it be fair Anguissa may not be announced today as we don't have photos of him in kit as we did the deal in France?
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Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
Just when I thought TK couldn't be more of a legend 👋
Wonder who we went for instead? Mensah? Montoya not better? Or is there someone else we don't know about?
With Anguissa and Vietto I think we'll have reached our maximum quota of non home grown players (above the age of 21). This includes players like Djalo and Cisse but could still be a reason for choosing Fosu-Mensah instead.
Sergio Rico
Fabri
Ream
Odoi
Le Marchand
Djalo
(Anguissa)
Cisse
Johansen
Schürrle
Mitrovic
Kamara
(Vietto)
Ayite
Kebano
Fonte
That's the 17 allowed. I might have missed someone that should be included or included someone that shouldn't though.
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Bloody love Tony Kahn https://twitter.com/tonykhan/status/1027601642357772288?s=21
Just when I thought TK couldn't be more of a legend 👋
Wonder who we went for instead? Mensah? Montoya not better? Or is there someone else we don't know about?
With Anguissa and Vietto I think we'll have reached our maximum quota of non home grown players (above the age of 21). This includes players like Djalo and Cisse but could still be a reason for choosing Fosu-Mensah instead.
We can still loan out some players to teams in the EFL so maybe they might venture off to get some experience
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 06:24:44 PM
Would it be fair Anguissa may not be announced today as we don't have photos of him in kit as we did the deal in France?
Wouldn't have thought so - we have announced players before with no immediate photos of them, usually deadline day deals
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Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 06:24:44 PM
Would it be fair Anguissa may not be announced today as we don't have photos of him in kit as we did the deal in France?
Wouldn't have thought so - we have signed players before with no immediate photos of them
Apparently our medical team went out there..... maybe they packed a shirt
Then, of course... there's always photoshop.
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Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 06:24:44 PM
Would it be fair Anguissa may not be announced today as we don't have photos of him in kit as we did the deal in France?
Pretty sure the medical team would have had the foresight to take a kit with them just in case
As far as I understand it we can still sell or loan out to non English clubs, just closed for buying. I could of course be wrong.
Quote from: bobby01 on August 09, 2018, 06:30:19 PM
As far as I understand it we can still sell or loan out to non English clubs, just closed for buying. I could of course be wrong.
thats correct, providing their windows are still open. they are all over the place. think france shuts in a few days, and others in another 3 weeks.
So, hands up who's glued to SSN and constantly hitting refresh for the next 27 mins? 😬
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yep, although dont need to refresh as my phone bleeps every time fulham tweets
The players must be really excited and motivated to succeed with the ambition the club is shown. Exciting times
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yep, although dont need to refresh as my phone bleeps every time fulham tweets
Didn't even know that was an available feature as I rarely use Twitter. Just changed my settings for FulhamFC and TonyKhan
Cheers Ben
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The players must be really excited and motivated to succeed with the ambition the club is shown. Exciting times
yes, unless you are one of the players about to lose your place. lets hope they adopt fontes attitude and realise its a team game, and everyone will be called upon at some stage. slav gonna have to work wonders behind the scenes to keep everyone happy. we have a pretty big squad now
https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/08/09/fulham-seal-flurry-of-late-deals-on-deadline-day/
Fulham seal flurry of late deals on Deadline Day
Fulham joined Everton in making the most of Transfer Deadline Day in the Premier League.
The Cottagers absolutely went for it.
Newly-promoted Fulham had already had a superb transfer window after signing Andre Schurrle, Alfie Mawson, Jean Serri, Calum Chambers and Aleksandar Mitrovic, but they kept signing players on deadline day.
Take a look at this lot...
Joe Bryan – Left back arrives in a reported $8 million fee from Bristol City
Sergio Rico – Signed on loan from Sevilla, talented goalkeeper
Andre Zambo Anguissa – Holding midfielder from Marseille set to arrive for club-record $38 million
Luciano Vietto – Argentine striker set to join on loan from Atletico Madrid
Timothy Fosu-Mensah – A season-long loan deal from Manchester United for the versatile Dutch defender, if it goes through in time
If all of these deals are completed then it would mean Fulham have spent over $128 million, more than any other newly-promoted team in a single window in Premier League history.
American owner Shahid Khan doesn't want the bitter taste of relegation from the PL again and he's splashing some serious cash to make sure Slavisa Jokanovic's men don't finish in the bottom three this season.
Breaking | Documents still arriving all the time at Marseille's training ground for Sporting Director Zubizarreta & André Frank Zambo Anguissa's representatives to sign, according to @Serguei. 15 minutes to go, his €30m or so move to Fulham will go right to the wire.
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Breaking | Documents still arriving all the time at Marseille's training ground for Sporting Director Zubizarreta & André Frank Zambo Anguissa's representatives to sign, according to @Serguei. 15 minutes to go, his €30m or so move to Fulham will go right to the wire.
If the deal doesn't make the deadline, there's nothing saying that it can't be changed to a loan until the next transfer window, right?
Like I said earlier, I have a horrible feeling that the Anguissa deal won't happen. Never comfortable when the player is abroad and communication is slower
Hilarious from Bristol City 🤣
https://twitter.com/bristolcity/status/1027596678096973829?s=21
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That's the 17 allowed. I might have missed someone that should be included or included someone that shouldn't though.
By my reckoning, which may be wrong, I think KMac's apprenticeship at Dundee until he was 19+ makes him 'non-homegrown'.
2 mins
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yep, although dont need to refresh as my phone bleeps every time fulham tweets
Didn't even know that was an available feature as I rarely use Twitter. Just changed my settings for FulhamFC and TonyKhan
Cheers Ben
no probs, just a hint, if you listen to jim or watch games online, its sometimes best to disable during games as jim and streaming are about a min behind all the fulham tweets
N counting
We have three players that are pending. One was at Motspur Park so I presume that is done and just the usual silly video and stuff. The other two BIG signings are a worry because of rushing through the paperwork.
Vietto on the twitter now.
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2 mins
2 minutes to signatures closing but hours left to announce signings
Vietto official!
Vietto official
Cmon Anguissa sign!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkKzp9mX0AAMpJN.jpg:large)
Only a loan for Vietto, slightly surprising
Down to two pending.
Vietto confirmed
So we have four loans now, does this mean Fosu-Mensah is not happening or is a permanent?
Quote from: Ordar on August 09, 2018, 07:02:50 PM
Only a loan for Vietto, slightly surprising
to be fair, the amount we have spent, cant begrudge a cheaper, than will no doubt still cost millions
I always saw Fosu as a permanent. We'll see...
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Only a loan for Vietto, slightly surprising
loan is fine - hes ok as a squad player with potential. he hasnt set the world alight in spain
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Only a loan for Vietto, slightly surprising
loan is fine - hes ok as a squad player with potential. he hasnt set the world alight in spain
He was good in Villareal, but that was 4 years ago now. Hasn't performed since.
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I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Luciano Vietto on loan from Atlético Madrid. Luciano's a versatile young attacking player with great experience against top competition in @LaLiga. He's a welcome addition; we're excited that he's joined the club! Come on Fulham!
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So we have four loans now, does this mean Fosu-Mensah is not happening or is a permanent?
Don't think the limit applies to non-domestic loans.
Career stats:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciano_Vietto
Somewhat impressive for a player I'd never heard of before today
I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
BBC says still awaiting confirmation on this.
I'm always fine with loans if there are options to buy.
I'm worried about the Anguissa deal.
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Down to two pending.
Which 2 pending after vietto?
Fosu Mensah was at Motspur. So I thought he would be the nailed on signing. But was supposed to be a loan. Now I am not so sure. I am still waiting for out record signing 30 million pound defensive midfielder who isn't in the Country to get the paperwork in.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
yes, im feeling a little greedy like that. i mean come on, who doesnt want another record signing
On the twitter page he has nicked Sava's mask
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
Career stats:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciano_Vietto
Somewhat impressive for a player I'd never heard of before today
the goals vs appearances table at the bottom of the link does not agree with the one at the top of the link
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
Chambers can play holding mid so I would not worry to much about it...although I would be delighted if Anguissa does happen.
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Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
Chambers can play holding mid so I would not worry to much about it...although I would be delighted if Anguissa does happen.
Anguissa is a different class to a Chambers playing out of position
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Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
Chambers can play holding mid so I would not worry to much about it...although I would be delighted if Anguissa does happen.
dude, its a 30 million pound record signing. we could buy brentford and qpr for that.i want
How can it fall through because of paperwork - 22 mil deal?
Though I know we should be very happy with what's been done.
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I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
Chambers can play holding mid so I would not worry to much about it...although I would be delighted if Anguissa does happen.
Anguissa is a different class to a Chambers playing out of position
Completely agree, but we are ok for depth
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I know I'm like a broken record, but if Anguissa doesn't happen I will be left slightly disappointed (which I'm aware is ridiculous given how fantastic a window we have had!)
Chambers can play holding mid so I would not worry to much about it...although I would be delighted if Anguissa does happen.
Anguissa is a different class to a Chambers playing out of position
Completely agree, but we are ok for depth
Depth is not the reason I would be disappointed. It's because he's a fantastic player
Surely the Club must know whether Anguissa is a done deal. Even if it's not, TK still needs to let us know so we can get on with the rest of our lives.
Worried about Anguissa. Really, REALLY, hope it comes through
Quote from: Arthur on August 09, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Surely the Club must know whether Anguissa is a done deal. Even if it's not, TK still needs to let us know so we can get on with the rest of our lives.
gonna hang it out till midnight
Quote from: Arthur on August 09, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Surely the Club must know whether Anguissa is a done deal. Even if it's not, TK still needs to let us know so we can get on with the rest of our lives.
Which is why I think it's not been completed. Times up by now
Anguissa news:
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/the-latest-on-andre-frank-zambo-anguissas-proposed-move-to-fulham/
Quote from: boplogic on August 09, 2018, 07:19:33 PM
Anguissa news:
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/the-latest-on-andre-frank-zambo-anguissas-proposed-move-to-fulham/
So, if that is correct, we would not stump up an extra 1.5 million and this delayed proceedings? Crazy
Once we were after Ayew of Swansea. He has joined Palace now confirmed.
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Worried about Anguissa. Really, REALLY, hope it comes through
I hope it does, trying to beat the clock?
They're gonna let it run a few more hours and then boom :
ANGUISh over
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They're gonna let it run a few more hours and then boom :
ANGUISh over
WELL DONE!
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Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Worried about Anguissa. Really, REALLY, hope it comes through
I hope it does, trying to beat the clock?
worst case scenario if it doesnt happen its not going to break our season. key thing today was getting a decent left back and keeping betts
Quote from: elgreenio on August 09, 2018, 07:24:41 PM
They're gonna let it run a few more hours and then boom :
ANGUISh over
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Very good
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2018, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Worried about Anguissa. Really, REALLY, hope it comes through
I hope it does, trying to beat the clock?
worst case scenario if it doesnt happen its not going to break our season. key thing today was getting a decent left back and keeping betts
Keeping Betts? Serious. We've signed Rico, a top class GK.
Am hearing that Fonsu Mensa loan signing will be confirmed shortly.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 09, 2018, 07:26:27 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 09, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2018, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Worried about Anguissa. Really, REALLY, hope it comes through
I hope it does, trying to beat the clock?
worst case scenario if it doesnt happen its not going to break our season. key thing today was getting a decent left back and keeping betts
Keeping Betts? Serious. We've signed Rico, a top class GK.
hmmmmmmm - can be dodgy as well. lets see how he pans out
Wow!
The season will have to be exceptional to be more exciting than the transfer window.
Where are those nattering nabobs of negativism now?
Here's to the new legend, Tony Khan! :beer:
Guardian saying it's a done deal - 'good source.'
hmm, getting nervous now.
From Get French Football News @GFFN
Breaking | André Frank Zambo Anguissa to Fulham is a done deal! Everything was signed before the 2-hour extension expired, according to @BilelGhazi.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Am hearing that Fonsu Mensa loan signing will be confirmed shortly.
I am expecting some really 'clever' announcement on the website for him!! 😋😋👍⚽ Smart move?
l'equipe are also reporting that it is actually done, just not announced yet.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 09, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Am hearing that Fonsu Mensa loan signing will be confirmed shortly.
I am expecting some really 'clever' announcement on the website for him!! 😋😋👍⚽
imMensa ???????
Hoping the club are going for a one announcement per hour type of thing! Still think Fosu Mensah would also be a very good signing,
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 09, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Am hearing that Fonsu Mensa loan signing will be confirmed shortly.
I am expecting some really 'clever' announcement on the website for him!! 😋😋👍⚽
im reckon imMENSA
Fousa-Mensah from Man U on loan, to be announced shortly, according to BBC.
If the final two reported signings actually happen then hats off to TK and his team.They wod have performed an absolute miracle.COYW
We then have to turn them into a team.
I love the fact that Fulham are the first promoted club to pay over 100 million in transfers. Widely mentioned across everywhere. Except they are not. Not unless we actually have out big sining who is lost in the wind confirmed
Think about it. Anguissa would be our biggest ever fee. Why let it get diluted by all the other deals clubs are announcing. Let's wait a bit until the dust settles and boooooom!!!!
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 07:39:23 PM
Think about it. Anguissa would be our biggest ever fee. Why let it get diluted by all the other deals clubs are announcing. Let's wait a bit until the dust settles and boooooom!!!!
I reaaaaalllly hope you're right Joel
BBC are reporting the Anguissa deal now.
Talk about ANGUISh waiting for the announcement
watching skysports live on youtube. Liam Rosenior referring to Fulham as "we". Said "we've also signed 2 talents from France"
Quote from: AllyWhite on August 09, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
watching skysports live on youtube. Liam Rosenior referring to Fulham as "we". Said "we've also signed 2 talents from France"
Isn't he meant to be club ambassador for Brighton now?
FOUsure the Mensah deal has been signed off by now
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about this in the rules.
Quote from: gezkc on August 09, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
BBC are reporting the Anguissa deal now.
Don't think they are. Just says we are set to sign him when I looked
Next slavisa signs extension at end of day. That would be phenomenal.
This last couple of weeks has been absolutely incredible. Amazing to see the commitment the Khans are making to our club. Solidifying the back line and fielding one of the top midfields in the EPL with a strong, proven no. 9 makes me incredibly optimistic for the coming season. I think we have to be Top 10 favorites off potential alone, hopefully the majority of the new faces settle and slot in nicely. I can't wait to see how this season plays out, will be a joy to watch us back in the Prem.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about that in the rules.
This is why I reckon Fosu Mensah has to be permanent or doesn't happen
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about that in the rules.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
This is where everyone got the two loans from. It specifically mentions "Find out how Premier League clubs are limited in the number of players they can bring in on loan from English clubs"
Nowhere does it mention overseas clubs.
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 07:43:35 PM
Next slavisa signs extension at end of day. That would be phenomenal.
well - if he doesnt sign an extension now then i'm not sure what else he is looking for from a club
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: AllyWhite on August 09, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
watching skysports live on youtube. Liam Rosenior referring to Fulham as "we". Said "we've also signed 2 talents from France"
Isn't he meant to be club ambassador for Brighton now?
Yes he is that's why I'm surprised. The moment the interviewer mentioned "Fulham", a smile came up on his face.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: gezkc on August 09, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
BBC are reporting the Anguissa deal now.
Don't think they are. Just says we are set to sign him when I looked
Ah you're right. Still, looking promising.
Quote from: FulhamPHX on August 09, 2018, 07:43:45 PM
This last couple of weeks has been absolutely incredible. Amazing to see the commitment the Khans are making to our club. Solidifying the back line and fielding one of the top midfields in the EPL with a strong, proven no. 9 makes me incredibly optimistic for the coming season. I think we have to be Top 10 favorites off potential alone, hopefully the majority of the new faces settle and slot in nicely. I can't wait to see how this season plays out, will be a joy to watch us back in the Prem.
Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.
Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.
They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
Quote from: gezkc on August 09, 2018, 07:45:23 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: gezkc on August 09, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
BBC are reporting the Anguissa deal now.
Don't think they are. Just says we are set to sign him when I looked
Ah you're right. Still, looking promising.
Kind of but not really, all media outlets have reported us as being set to sign him all day!
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:46:40 PM
Quote from: gezkc on August 09, 2018, 07:45:23 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: gezkc on August 09, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
BBC are reporting the Anguissa deal now.
Don't think they are. Just says we are set to sign him when I looked
Ah you're right. Still, looking promising.
Kind of but not really, all media outlets have reported us as being set to sign him all day!
That has been up there all afternoon. Latest from the BBC was 'awaiting confirmation that the deal was in time.'
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:39:10 PM
I love the fact that Fulham are the first promoted club to pay over 100 million in transfers. Widely mentioned across everywhere. Except they are not. Not unless we actually have out big sining who is lost in the wind confirmed
That is across the whole window isn't it? So Mitro, Seri, Fabri etc are to be included.
@BilelGhazi a journalist @lequipe says all paperwork was done before deadline. Also Spam tried to hijack the deal.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 09, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Am hearing that Fonsu Mensa loan signing will be confirmed shortly.
I am expecting some really 'clever' announcement on the website for him!! 😋😋👍⚽ Smart move?
Mensa - very intelligent signing.
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on August 09, 2018, 07:49:30 PM
@BilelGhazi a journalist @lequipe says all paperwork was done before deadline. Also Spam tried to hijack the deal.
wouldnt be a prem transfer window, if spam didnt try to hijack at least one of our player
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about that in the rules.
This is why I reckon Fosu Mensah has to be permanent or doesn't happen
My understanding is:
Chambers is the only loan so far from an English based team, Mensah will fill our quota of two 'home-loans'. Continental loans do not count
Loans – These are officially called temporary transfers. Under Premier League rules, there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs. They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.https://www.premierleague.com/news/60177
Jordan Ayew now officially gone to Palace on loan.
They've joined the bad pun bandwagon with the Ayewready hashtag.
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 07:45:09 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about that in the rules.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
This is where everyone got the two loans from. It specifically mentions "Find out how Premier League clubs are limited in the number of players they can bring in on loan from English clubs"
Nowhere does it mention overseas clubs.
But I'm talking about the actual rules in the PL handbook. As far as I can tell the rules specify maximum 2 loans at a time and maximum 4 per season without mentioning English clubs specifically. Which would suggest to me that it applies to loans from ALL clubs. I haven't read all 616 pages though...
Is there really NO limit to the number of overseas loans???
19:52
STILL WAITING AT FULHAM...
James Cole
@jamescolesky
As light fades at Fulham TG, still waiting for Tim Fosu-Mensah
season-long loan deal to be confirmed. And did Fulham get Andre-Frank Anguissa 22.3m pound deal over the line in time?...#FFC @SkySportsNews
7:51 PM - Aug 9, 2018
See James Cole's other Tweets
signing imminent
Incoming
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The club is teasing us now...
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I almost love the club teasing us 😬
Quote from: cookieg on August 09, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:39:10 PM
I love the fact that Fulham are the first promoted club to pay over 100 million in transfers. Widely mentioned across everywhere. Except they are not. Not unless we actually have out big sining who is lost in the wind confirmed
That is across the whole window isn't it? So Mitro, Seri, Fabri etc are to be included.
Yes but that is still short of 100 million quid. Less than 80 million.
on Fulham twitter
Another one
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:55:03 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 07:45:09 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about that in the rules.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
This is where everyone got the two loans from. It specifically mentions "Find out how Premier League clubs are limited in the number of players they can bring in on loan from English clubs"
Nowhere does it mention overseas clubs.
But I'm talking about the actual rules in the PL handbook. As far as I can tell the rules specify maximum 2 loans at a time and maximum 4 per season without mentioning English clubs specifically. Which would suggest to me that it applies to loans from ALL clubs. I haven't read all 616 pages though...
Is there really NO limit to the number of overseas loans???
Think so, Watford a few years ago in the PL had a huge amount of loans, mostly Italian I believe
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Watching a YouTube video of Anguissa's every touch against Bordeaux. He's like a Dickson Etuhu who can play a snappy pass. He'll enjoy the physicality of the Prem, that's for sure. Really hope this one gets announced and the reason for the delay is that the only pun the comms team could devise is:
"'Ang about, we've signed another one."
Quote from: Tempest on August 09, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:55:03 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 07:45:09 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 09, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me how we can sign all these players on loan when the rules in the PL handbook says:
"not more than two Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time"
and also:
"the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be four"
Someone said that this only applies for loans from other PL clubs but I can't find anything about that in the rules.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
This is where everyone got the two loans from. It specifically mentions "Find out how Premier League clubs are limited in the number of players they can bring in on loan from English clubs"
Nowhere does it mention overseas clubs.
But I'm talking about the actual rules in the PL handbook. As far as I can tell the rules specify maximum 2 loans at a time and maximum 4 per season without mentioning English clubs specifically. Which would suggest to me that it applies to loans from ALL clubs. I haven't read all 616 pages though...
Is there really NO limit to the number of overseas loans???
Think so, Watford a few years ago in the PL had a huge amount of loans, mostly Italian I believe
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Thanks! :54:
Dino Fazlic?
mensah confirmed. one year loan
Fosu is confirmed
SHOWTIME instead of IMMENSAH.
Mensah on loan now confirmed. So that's it unless our paperwork has gone through for the 30 million midfielder. We can all go home.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:01:53 PM
Mensah on loan now confirmed. So that's it unless our paperwork has gone through for the 30 million midfielder. We can all go home.
Would make sense to save that reveal for last I think. Been several reports that the paperwork has been done for ages, just not announced yet.
Saving Anguissa for last!
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Quote from: cookieg on August 09, 2018, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 09, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Am hearing that Fonsu Mensa loan signing will be confirmed shortly.
I am expecting some really 'clever' announcement on the website for him!! 😋😋👍⚽ Smart move?
Mensa - very intelligent signing.
ImMENSe?
Loans – These are officially called temporary transfers. Under Premier League rules, there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs. They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club
With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/60177
Saving the best til last?
Tonnes of French people begging the Anguissa deal to go through. I'm confused, do they not rating him or something?
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
Quote from: lomotd on August 09, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Tonnes of French people begging the Anguissa deal to go through. I'm confused, do they not rating him or something?
Read a lot of comments saying that he's inconsistent and prone at mistakes. Not really excelling in specific areas either.
I hope that he comes and proves those frenchies wrong!
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 08:06:23 PM
Saving the best til last?
You mean Crouchie has finally past his medical.. :yay:
Quote from: lomotd on August 09, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Tonnes of French people begging the Anguissa deal to go through. I'm confused, do they not rating him or something?
maybe they dont want their teams to have to face him
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
I think TK would of come out and said something if it wasn't going ahead. Fingers crossed!
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Quote from: AllyWhite on August 09, 2018, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: lomotd on August 09, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Tonnes of French people begging the Anguissa deal to go through. I'm confused, do they not rating him or something?
Read a lot of comments saying that he's inconsistent and prone at mistakes. Not really excelling in specific areas either.
I hope that he comes and proves those frenchies wrong!
We are paying a lot for a player that has had one good season. Don't think they want to get rid, but they have more time in the window to reinvest and would probably take our hand off at that price.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: cookieg on August 09, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 07:39:10 PM
I love the fact that Fulham are the first promoted club to pay over 100 million in transfers. Widely mentioned across everywhere. Except they are not. Not unless we actually have out big sining who is lost in the wind confirmed
That is across the whole window isn't it? So Mitro, Seri, Fabri etc are to be included.
Yes but that is still short of 100 million quid. Less than 80 million.
Not sure of exact figures so looks something like this?
Mitro - £22m
Seri and MlM - £30m
Fabri - £4.5m
Mawson - £15m
Bryan - £6m
Loan fees - Chambers, Rico, Mensah, Schurrle and Vietto
So probably looking at c£80m at the moment so maybe Sky are including Anguissa to get to £100m
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
Looks like the only ones not being replaced or at least seriously challenged are Sess and Mitro. Even TC will have competition.
Quote from: AllyWhite on August 09, 2018, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: lomotd on August 09, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Tonnes of French people begging the Anguissa deal to go through. I'm confused, do they not rating him or something?
Read a lot of comments saying that he's inconsistent and prone at mistakes. Not really excelling in specific areas either.
I hope that he comes and proves those frenchies wrong!
I watch quite a lot of European football and imo he is a fantastic player. I feel like he is one of those players who some fans don't appreciate quite what they do and how important to a teams play they are
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
I was expecting to see some move out during the day,especially fringe players.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
Don't they usually also announce that 'business is complete', or something along those lines when we're done?
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 09, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
Looks like the only ones not being replaced or at least seriously challenged are Sess and Mitro. Even TC will have competition.
You could say that Schürrle is competition on the left flank for Sess I guess.
Quote from: OMalleyCat on August 09, 2018, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
I think TK would of come out and said something if it wasn't going ahead. Fingers crossed!
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I have no doubt that, decent bloke that TK is, he will inform us immediately.
Are you reading this, TK?
My worry is how is JK going to keep all these players, old and new, happy and form a good team bond.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
I was expecting to see some move out during the day,especially fringe players.
Fringes went out of fashion with the New Romantics didn't they?
May still be trying
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
I was expecting to see some move out during the day,especially fringe players.
Can still sell to European clubs. Only can't sign more players.
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 08:10:52 PM
We are paying a lot for a player that has had one good season. Don't think they want to get rid, but they have more time in the window to reinvest and would probably take our hand off at that price.
One good season behind him and, aged 22, seven-or-eight more ahead of him?
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 09, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
Looks like the only ones not being replaced or at least seriously challenged are Sess and Mitro. Even TC will have competition.
have you seen schurrle start anywhere other than in sess position?
Interesting that Fosu Mensah said he spoke to Joka about the move, clearly Slav has more input on these things than we potentially give him credit for as he must've spoken to him about what role he'll use him in etc
Even if we don't get Anguissa I am still chuffed "to the moon and back"! K Mac is up to it, and we have cover all over the pitch now.
What a window.
Quote from: Tabby on August 09, 2018, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
I was expecting to see some move out during the day,especially fringe players.
Can still sell to European clubs. Only can't sign more players.
Can also still loan to championship clubs if we want to until the end of August
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 09, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
My worry is how is JK going to keep all these players, old and new, happy and form a good team bond.
That is a good point. It was in large part playing as a proper team that worked for us last year - after Sunderland away. SJ will have to try to quickly build that again. I was thinking the other day that at least there's no player for whom someone doesn't speak his language.
I'm actually pleased that we signed Bryant over Targett. Think Targett well over priced and Bryant being a similar standard.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 09, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
My worry is how is JK going to keep all these players, old and new, happy and form a good team bond.
I kind of agree with that. If everything clicks, we should now have a side that could compete for Europa League places, but things could also go a bit wrong morale wise - there will be 4 or 5 players key to our promotion that a going to get a lot less gametime.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
It could be interpreted as Anguissa is already a done deal and Khan knows it.
You would've hoped the club or tony would announce that all business has finished by now unless they are holding out to announce Anguissa
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 09, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
My worry is how is JK going to keep all these players, old and new, happy and form a good team bond.
You need a deep squad in the Premier league and there is no room for sentiment about last seasons players because they will now have to up their game to the next level to compete for a place in the starting XI it will be good for Sess too as he is a quick learner who will benefit from having better players to train with
Are Spuds the only team in the country not to buy a player in this window?
Seems weird is if just fizzles out, after so many sources saying it was a done deal.
A fantastic window obviously, but I think someone would say if Anguissa hadn't gone through at the last minute.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
Are Spuds the only team in the country not to buy a player in this window?
First team in PL history at least.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 08:25:21 PM
You would've hoped the club or tony would announce that all business has finished by now unless they are holding out to announce Anguissa
They've done that in the past.
Quote from: astroevan on August 09, 2018, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
It could be interpreted as Anguissa is already a done deal and Khan knows it.
They are still putting out official tweets from the players we have signed. I would have thought they would have all gone off for the day if there was nothing left to report.. Or Maybe I am reading too much into that as well. Getting very late.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: astroevan on August 09, 2018, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I'm pleased to announce that @FulhamFC has signed Timothy Fosu-Mensah on loan from @ManUtd. @tfosumensah is a gifted young defender who excels at multiple positions. He will further reinforce this strong squad that we've assembled to compete in the Premier League. Come on Fulham!
This tweet sounds as if that is it. Or am I reading too much into it.
It could be interpreted as Anguissa is already a done deal and Khan knows it.
They are still putting out official tweets from the players we have signed. I would have thought they would have all gone off for the day if there was nothing left to report.. Or Maybe I am reading too much into that as well. Getting very late.
The chap from France is going to be our record signing or near that and so I think they will want to drag this out as long as possible. Be the last big signing on sky to report on, it's all about exposure
One more to come at Fulham - and this one took a while. Told Anguissa should be announced within the hour.
Not the only ones with late reveals, Southampton have signed Ings on loan with an obligation to buy.
Anguissa deal went through according to French press, also reports that West Ham made a late bid.
https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1027622006576041984
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Transferts-frank-anguissa-quitte-marseille-pour-fulham/929389
On the twitter now!
It's done!!! Official!!
Yesssss Anguish over
They're still trying for Anguissa. I think all these tweets are to keep us engaged. Let's pray they can do it
IT IS OFFICIAL. WE HAVE SPENT OVER 100 MILLION WITH NEWS OF OUR NEW SIGNING.
O
M
F
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This is the icing on the cake of the most wonderful transfer window that Schurlly exceeded all our wildest dreams.
TK take a bow and THANK YOU!!!
COME ON FULHAM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:32:33 PM
IT IS OFFICIAL. WE HAVE SPENT OVER 100 MILLION WITH NEWS OF OUR NEW SIGNING.
Amazing!!
Good lord... am I .....dreaming????
Big shout out to Slap head in Qatar as he set me up with a magical box allowing me watch Sky sports for minute to minute news here in Dubai.
What a window... and it may not yet be over..
Brilliant window now that I assume all the signings are in. Way beyond what I was expecting. :yay:
AMAZING!
COYW!!!!
I'm not normally one to swear but on this occasion... Halle-feckin-lujah!
Another five year deal for Anguissa.
This is more like the FFC I have wanted to see since the Khans arrived. Well done to all concerned.
Subject to a work permit. Just in case.
BONKERS what a day!!!!!!!
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 09, 2018, 08:36:26 PM
Subject to a work permit. Just in case.
He'll get one considering the price we're paying for him, that's somewhat of a formality
Ok
All nayaysers should give the chairman and his son their due.
Brilliant Window!!!
We are set to compete not just survive!!!!
With all these signings I think we can stop worrying about squad depth now!!!
The new player who must be feeling most inspired by all this should be Bryan. There's him been bought along with all those big (expensive) names from overseas. If that isn't motivation, I don't know what is. Now let's see what he can do.
COYW!
Quote from: TerryR on August 09, 2018, 08:38:53 PM
Ok
All nayaysers should give the chairman and his son their due.
Brilliant Window!!!
We are set to compete not just survive!!!!
Yes, Terry. Palace will be glad they got us first.
Missed out on a new mascot. That was disappointing. We also had a few deals not go perfectly. But astonishingly for Fulham we moved for other players and pretty much got what we were after. Now just have to wait for them all to meet each other and to explain exactly where they can play and in what formation.
What a good day.
Fantastic window .Absolute respect to the khans .Brilliant !
The last 6 months or so as a Fulham fan has truly been remarkable. Something I will never forget
Wow. So so pleased, could not have imagined this time last month that we would a) spend this amount and b) get in the number of top players that we have
The Khans need a song asap!
Hats off to you both Mr Khan 's. Some serioys investment this window.COYW
Amazing window
Truly amazing
I was always very confident we would make the right signings but this is way beyond what I expected
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 09, 2018, 08:43:34 PM
The last 6 months or so as a Fulham fan has truly been remarkable. Something I will never forget
+1 What a time to be a Fulham fan. It's been a roller-coaster ride and now we're back in the PL with an amazing squad.
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Unbelievable day! Unbelievable transfer window!
So much credit must go to Shahid Khan, Tony Khan and all involved at Fulham for having not only an ambitious recruitment plan for this window, but also the necessary quality back up options should our 1st choice targets not come off. I don't feel there has been any panic buying and the whole approach has been calm and considered.
Hopefully, the new signings can gel quickly and we'll be in for one hell of an exciting season!
COYW!
Any more? Still no confirmation that BANG was the last.... a marquee signing rather than just bench warmers ;)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
I was expecting to see some move out during the day,especially fringe players.
We can still loan players out to European clubs so some may still move on.
Fantastic window now they need to gel as a team. Let's not be too quick to criticise if the first couple of games are a bit hit and miss, give SJ time please.
No one could have asked for a better window. I'm sure Slav will integrate them in slowly, but wow what a squad we have
Quote from: cookieg on August 09, 2018, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2018, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
I was expecting to see some move out during the day,especially fringe players.
We can still loan players out to European clubs so some may still move on.
Officially done now!
Disappointed, expected us to spend at least 200 million 😂😂😂
Very excited for this season! Can everyone who signed today play on saturday? Or was there a cut off point?
Almost speechless. More than I ever could have dreamed of ! Well done FFC. !!
Quote from: Andyb on August 09, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
Disappointed, expected us to spend at least 200 million 😂😂😂
Very excited for this season! Can everyone who signed today play on saturday? Or was there a cut off point?
had to save about 80mil back for the big push in january
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
Quote from: Andyb on August 09, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
Disappointed, expected us to spend at least 200 million 😂😂😂
Very excited for this season! Can everyone who signed today play on saturday? Or was there a cut off point?
had to save about 80mil back for the big push in january
80 million for a goal keeper, bit short there...
Amazing.
Thanks to the man with the money and to the deal makers. Hope it all works out.
Silly Season Transfer thread? In the end nothing in it was as incredible as the reality.
Quote from: cmg on August 09, 2018, 08:56:23 PM
Amazing.
Thanks to the man with the money and to the deal makers. Hope it all works out.
Silly Season Transfer thread? In the end nothing in it was as incredible as the reality.
Man, I remember when we were discussing getting in Kalas, Norwood and Piazon. Mawson, Seri and Schürrle are quite the improvements on early expectations.
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
Anyone else feeling greedy and still wanting an out and out right winger? :005:
What's going to happen to Kalas and Piazon?
They won't get a look into the side at Chelsea.
Off to Europe on loan do you think?
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
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Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
Edun a loan???
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Anyone else feeling greedy and still wanting an out and out right winger? :005:
With Bryan now in, Sess will start LW which leaves both Schurle and AK47 as very credible options for RW 👍
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:03:40 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Anyone else feeling greedy and still wanting an out and out right winger? :005:
With Bryan now in, Sess will start LW which leaves both Schurle and AK47 as very credible options for RW 👍
Yeah I think that's more than good enough
If one figures that Fonte, Cisse, Cauley and Djalo will be nowhere near the first team, that still leaves us with 22 senior pros plus the promising Academy players such as S. Sess, O'Reilly and Fossey to name just a few.
That's a helluva squad compared to what we were promoted with.
COYW
Quote from: Holders on August 09, 2018, 08:39:25 PM
The new player who must be feeling most inspired by all this should be Bryan. There's him been bought along with all those big (expensive) names from overseas. If that isn't motivation, I don't know what is. Now let's see what he can do.
COYW!
It wouldn't surprise me if Joe Bryan turns out to be one of our better purchases. Having watched him play against us a few times, I've been impressed and so happy we were able to sign him. He has a bit of an edge to his play and am pretty sure the opposition won't wish to tangle with him.
Good luck Joe and to all of the other newcomers.
Sorry if already mentioned but according to Atletico's official website the Vietto loan includes an option to buy:
"Luciano Vietto has been loaned to Fulham. After joining our club in the 2015/16 season, the Argentine will pursue a new challenge in his career and play in the Premier League. The loan includes an option to buy."
http://en.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/luciano-vietto-to-join-fulham-on-loan
We're going to see some beautiful football.
Quote from: twang on August 09, 2018, 09:12:52 PM
Sorry if already mentioned but according to Atletico's official website the Vietto loan includes an option to buy:
"Luciano Vietto has been loaned to Fulham. After joining our club in the 2015/16 season, the Argentine will pursue a new challenge in his career and play in the Premier League. The loan includes an option to buy."
http://en.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/luciano-vietto-to-join-fulham-on-loan
If he picks up his Villareal form he could be some player for us.
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
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Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
When you see it like that you have to think what was put in your drink?
Quote from: TerryR on August 09, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
What's going to happen to Kalas and Piazon?
They won't get a look into the side at Chelsea.
Off to Europe on loan do you think?
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Can still be loaned to Championship teams till end of August
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 09, 2018, 09:02:28 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
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Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
Edun a loan???
100% a loan according to ipswich official
One thing I will say, we're going to be fun to watch this year. Every single player has brought in for a purpose and because they're all technically proficient in their positions. Some of the players we've got I could never imagine playing for us so credit where it's due to the Khans for funding this! Will now be interesting to see how Slav uses the players at his disposal, but I reckon we might have fun this year!
To think quite a few of us were panicking as we crept into July without a single signing!
If you add in the value of the loan players, their value must be £50 million at least in this market, then we have actually bought in around £160 million of talent.
I thought some fans on here were being unrealistic and frankly a bit greedy to want as many signings as they were hoping for. Well we have exceeded pretty much everyone wildest dreams, certainly mine.
What an increadable squad we now have, it will take Slav a few weeks, even months to sort out the best starting 11 and get them to properly gel, however once that is sorted we are going to be fantastic.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 09, 2018, 09:02:28 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Edun a loan???
Good point. That was a cut and paste from the official PL site.
Edun is definitely a season-long loan
So obviously some are injured/not available for Palace, but our potential squad this season:
Rico
Chambers Mawson Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Seri Cairney
Sess Mitro Ak47
Subs: Betts, MLM, Christie, Kmac, StefJo, Schurrle, Vietto.
And that's leaving out youngsters, Fonte, Kebano, Ayite etc
Very, VERY excited for this side if they can gell together!
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Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 09, 2018, 09:28:31 PM
So obviously some are injured/not available for Palace, but our potential squad this season:
Rico
Chambers Mawson Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Seri Cairney
Sess Mitro Ak47
Subs: Betts, MLM, Christie, Kmac, StefJo, Schurrle, Vietto.
And that's leaving out youngsters, Fonte, Kebano, Ayite etc
Very, VERY excited for this side if they can gell together!
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im not so sure ream will be a starter. i can honestly see us going with chambers and mawson
I also think as the window stays open for the league and Europe beyond today, we will probably shed a few players who aren't top 22 if you will. Or let a bunch, especially the youth go out on loan.
Gosh we look like a powerhouse all the sudden.
Quote from: The Rock on August 09, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
I also think as the window stays open for the league and Europe beyond today, we will probably shed a few players who aren't top 22 if you will. Or let a bunch, especially the youth go out on loan.
Gosh we look like a powerhouse all the sudden.
Agree, hope Woody, Fonte and maybe Ayite head out on perms.
More loans for S. Sess, maybe DLT, Kait etc
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Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
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Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
George Williams (Forest Green) Free
Marek Rodak (Rotherham) Loan
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 09, 2018, 09:22:12 PM
One thing I will say, we're going to be fun to watch this year. Every single player has brought in for a purpose and because they're all technically proficient in their positions. Some of the players we've got I could never imagine playing for us so credit where it's due to the Khans for funding this! Will now be interesting to see how Slav uses the players at his disposal, but I reckon we might have fun this year!
Totally agree they will just need a little time to Bed in and Gel as a team but after the 1st International break it could be all systems go!!
Well for the last 84days, I have religiously looked to see who we have or haven't signed.
After following the team for the last 46 years all I can say is WOW.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think the last 7 months would see us go on an incredible unbeaten run, get to and win at Wembley, gain promotion to the Premiership and now sign some fantastic players who will make our team even stronger.
Thank you to all those people who have made all of the above possible.
I cannot wait for Saturday and feel sure we will do ourselves proud this season.
COYW.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 09, 2018, 08:17:10 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 09, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 09, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
I feel weird about so many new signings. Hopefully last years heros dont get cast aside
Looks like the only ones not being replaced or at least seriously challenged are Sess and Mitro. Even TC will have competition.
have you seen schurrle start anywhere other than in sess position?
If Sess were being benched, the club would have grabbed the money and ran. Schurrle will start on the right.
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
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Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
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Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
So going through these and trying to be critical with myself to manage expectations...
Jean Michael Seri:- a lot of industry professionals see his signing as a real coup, his videos look like genuine world class talent with an ability to cover the pitch despite his small stature ability nd an incredible eye for a pass. He's been with the squad aLongside MLM the longest and Nice fans were genuinely disappointed to see him go whilst his reviews from fulham fans who've seen him play sound like he's finding his feet and live up to the hype. An exciting signing by all measures it seems.
Maxim Le Marchand:- came in under the shadow of Seri's signing and has struggled to be viewed by a few fans as anything more than a signing to appease nice. That being said since he's been here he's slowly been given more respect. Has a left foot and seems cultured whilst also has adaptability to play LB although not as smoothly as some would like. Those who've seen him play seem to think he's got more than critics give him credit for and could very well oust ream and become a starting LCB as the season progresses. A season table purchase but long term perhaps better could be found.
Fabricio:- the beginning of the conflict of interest players. Clearly loved by besiktas fans after moving here.. they've even overtaken fulham social media on occasion saying how much they miss him. That said despite the fan fair fans have been left unsure and unconvinced of his ability to control the box. Seems emotional which can be a strength and a weakness. Averaged between 10-15 clean sheets at besiktas but also had Pepe and Vida in front of him. How he'll do I don't know.
Andre schurrle:- seemingly Mr nice guy with evident quality and one of germany's key world cup winning heroes. Has he lost his enthusiasm for football since he reached the top? At borussia dortmund he seemingly lost his way, couple with injuries. That said though when galvanised he showed genuine world class brilliance. Won bundesliga player of the month towards the end of last season for scoring and assisting around 6 goals total in a month. Has all the potential but perhaps needs to feel valued and also commit to fulham project. If he does one suspects knowing the league like he does he could become a key players. Definitely as the skill.
Mitrovic :- a fan favourite. His exploits last season were arguably the most prolific I can remember in my 20-30 years as a fan. He was on fire and suited our style of play incredibly well. That said at 23 he has played in the premiership and given an average return. Will this season prove it was benitez not valuing him properly that was the reason, his age or the league itself.. something makes me think if he stays fit and booking free he could score a good 10-15 goals, which at his age is a very promising sign.
Mawson:- out injured and part of a team that got relegated. Whilst many don't think that reflects on him as an individual player it's important to note and be wary of. Apparently competition for his signature was fierce which suggests many believe he did very well in a poor team, seemingly a natural leader and part of jokanovics desire to have a strong English contingent at 24 he's got a lot of his career ahead and also scores goals. We need to make sure he comes back fit - that's key. But hopefully he'll slot in nicely.
Chambers:- Mawson CB partner for England through the youth leagues these two know each other extremely well. Many arsenal fans didn't get why they let him go.. most saw him as one of their best CB'S and a player who'd shown a lot of form in preseason. Another around 24 but this time only on loan but with a knack for scoring goals it'll be interesting to see how he fits in.. and if he and Mawson start together what happened with signing MLM and Mensah. A loan.
Where it starts getting confusing.
Sergio Rico:- why? Seems to have split opinion as strongly as marmite, only a loan but Sevilla fans either seem gutted or are celebrating the fact they've got a calamitous keeper off their hands. It's hard to understand why we brought in such a polarising player especially when Bettinelli did so well last season and both new GK's seem to have moments of being liabilities.
Joe bryan:- one of the best LB's in the Championship an ability to bomb up and down but untried in the league. Hoping playing next to Mawson, MLM, Chambers and under slavisas guidance he can make the step up.. but there are no guarantees. A risk considering the level of wings in the league. Hell undoubtedly come straight into the starting 11. So from here and at 6mill it could be inspired.
Luciano Vietto :- another who seemingly splits opinions pretty harshly :- apparently according to the athletico Madrid site with an option to buy we're his third loan club in as many years and he's clearly struggled to establish himself. Does he offer us anything more than Kamara does? Time will tell but at the moment it could very well be a dud signing. Does well on football manager though apparently? Will reserve judgement but not overly expectant he'll do much.
Fosu-Mensah :- left of field and hardly mentioned on here before today. A youth player with promise who played relatively well when on loan last season but a utility player. Khan said he was pursuing other options over Montoya, but can't help but feel as a specialist RB which is presumably where he's been brought into add depth Montoya would've been a better signing? Clearly there's a thought process at the club - perhaps FFP? Either way not expecting to see him too much.
Anguissa :- our marquee deadline signing, at 22 he comes having held down DM role at marseille last season as they got to the final of the europa league only for him to have a bit of a nightmare and be responsible for gifting a goal away. Genuinely liked on the whole by marseille fans but whilst more reputable sources claim the fee to be nearer £22m, marseille fans think they've got better of deal, especially when quoting £30m...
Hard to know how today's signings will fair.. a lot are foreign and seem to have a lot to prove
That said though whilst I'm choosing to be critical I do have to commend the khan's for the work they've done and the ambition they've shown.. not only putting the money in but negotiating deals to bring some potentially world class signings to a newly promoted team. Long may it continue.
Has to be best window we've ever had, credit to the recruitment team, all of them. Can't say we've not exceeded expectations and anyone who sat at their keyboard complaining should be eating some humble pie now. Well done Fulham, COYW
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
So going through these and trying to be critical with myself to manage expectations...
Jean Michael Seri:- a lot of industry professionals see his signing as a real coup, his videos look like genuine world class talent with an ability to cover the pitch despite his small stature ability nd an incredible eye for a pass. He's been with the squad aLongside MLM the longest and Nice fans were genuinely disappointed to see him go whilst his reviews from fulham fans who've seen him play sound like he's finding his feet and live up to the hype. An exciting signing by all measures it seems.
Maxim Le Marchand:- came in under the shadow of Seri's signing and has struggled to be viewed by a few fans as anything more than a signing to appease nice. That being said since he's been here he's slowly been given more respect. Has a left foot and seems cultured whilst also has adaptability to play LB although not as smoothly as some would like. Those who've seen him play seem to think he's got more than critics give him credit for and could very well oust ream and become a starting LCB as the season progresses. A season table purchase but long term perhaps better could be found.
Fabricio:- the beginning of the conflict of interest players. Clearly loved by besiktas fans after moving here.. they've even overtaken fulham social media on occasion saying how much they miss him. That said despite the fan fair fans have been left unsure and unconvinced of his ability to control the box. Seems emotional which can be a strength and a weakness. Averaged between 10-15 clean sheets at besiktas but also had Pepe and Vida in front of him. How he'll do I don't know.
Andre schurrle:- seemingly Mr nice guy with evident quality and one of germany's key world cup winning heroes. Has he lost his enthusiasm for football since he reached the top? At borussia dortmund he seemingly lost his way, couple with injuries. That said though when galvanised he showed genuine world class brilliance. Won bundesliga player of the month towards the end of last season for scoring and assisting around 6 goals total in a month. Has all the potential but perhaps needs to feel valued and also commit to fulham project. If he does one suspects knowing the league like he does he could become a key players. Definitely as the skill.
Mitrovic :- a fan favourite. His exploits last season were arguably the most prolific I can remember in my 20-30 years as a fan. He was on fire and suited our style of play incredibly well. That said at 23 he has played in the premiership and given an average return. Will this season prove it was benitez not valuing him properly that was the reason, his age or the league itself.. something makes me think if he stays fit and booking free he could score a good 10-15 goals, which at his age is a very promising sign.
Mawson:- out injured and part of a team that got relegated. Whilst many don't think that reflects on him as an individual player it's important to note and be wary of. Apparently competition for his signature was fierce which suggests many believe he did very well in a poor team, seemingly a natural leader and part of jokanovics desire to have a strong English contingent at 24 he's got a lot of his career ahead and also scores goals. We need to make sure he comes back fit - that's key. But hopefully he'll slot in nicely.
Chambers:- Mawson CB partner for England through the youth leagues these two know each other extremely well. Many arsenal fans didn't get why they let him go.. most saw him as one of their best CB'S and a player who'd shown a lot of form in preseason. Another around 24 but this time only on loan but with a knack for scoring goals it'll be interesting to see how he fits in.. and if he and Mawson start together what happened with signing MLM and Mensah. A loan.
Where it starts getting confusing.
Sergio Rico:- why? Seems to have split opinion as strongly as marmite, only a loan but Sevilla fans either seem gutted or are celebrating the fact they've got a calamitous keeper off their hands. It's hard to understand why we brought in such a polarising player especially when Bettinelli did so well last season and both new GK's seem to have moments of being liabilities.
Joe bryan:- one of the best LB's in the Championship an ability to bomb up and down but untried in the league. Hoping playing next to Mawson, MLM, Chambers and under slavisas guidance he can make the step up.. but there are no guarantees. A risk considering the level of wings in the league. Hell undoubtedly come straight into the starting 11. So from here and at 6mill it could be inspired.
Luciano Vietto :- another who seemingly splits opinions pretty harshly :- apparently according to the athletico Madrid site with an option to buy we're his third loan club in as many years and he's clearly struggled to establish himself. Does he offer us anything more than Kamara does? Time will tell but at the moment it could very well be a dud signing. Does well on football manager though apparently? Will reserve judgement but not overly expectant he'll do much.
Fosu-Mensah :- left of field and hardly mentioned on here before today. A youth player with promise who played relatively well when on loan last season but a utility player. Khan said he was pursuing other options over Montoya, but can't help but feel as a specialist RB which is presumably where he's been brought into add depth Montoya would've been a better signing? Clearly there's a thought process at the club - perhaps FFP? Either way not expecting to see him too much.
Anguissa :- our marquee deadline signing, at 22 he comes having held down DM role at marseille last season as they got to the final of the europa league only for him to have a bit of a nightmare and be responsible for gifting a goal away. Genuinely liked on the whole by marseille fans but whilst more reputable sources claim the fee to be nearer £22m, marseille fans think they've got better of deal, especially when quoting £30m...
Hard to know how today's signings will fair.. a lot are foreign and seem to have a lot to prove
That said though whilst I'm choosing to be critical I do have to commend the khan's for the work they've done and the ambition they've shown.. not only putting the money in but negotiating deals to bring some potentially world class signings to a newly promoted team. Long may it continue.
Thanks for this
Wonder how Fred feels about West Ham after seeing this window? :005:
Wow. Just wow.
1. Button = Fabri & Rico
2. Fredericks = Fosu-Mensah
3. Targett = Bryan
4. Kalas = Mawson
5. Norwood = Seri
6. Piazon = Schurrie
7. Ojo = Vietto
8. Mitro = Mitro
RCB & RB "cover" = Chambers
LCB & LB "cover" = Le Marchand
DM "cover" = Anguissa
When "cover" is potentially upgrades on last years starters
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
To think quite a few of us were panicking as we crept into July without a single signing!
Not me!
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 09, 2018, 10:14:37 PM
Wonder how Fred feels about West Ham after seeing this window? :005:
They had a pretty decent window too.
Quote from: Twig on August 09, 2018, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 09, 2018, 10:14:37 PM
Wonder how Fred feels about West Ham after seeing this window? :005:
They had a pretty decent window too.
and Targett?
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Quote from: Fernhurst on May 17, 2018, 07:43:29 PM
Is it time for transfer rumours?????
Of course it is !!!!
If we lose the final it will be dispiriting and if we win so exciting.
Premier League is world class and our recruitment also needs to be.
Currently swinging wildly between, absolute pessimisism and fantastic optimism.
Do not think we are set up to be - score and shut up shop but they might be...... 4-0 by ht would be nice lads.
COYW
Time to wave goodbye..... fully expect to see this thread now sink into oblivion...
Far exceeded the two or three world class players I expected, we will cause some damage when we are welded together.
Good luck boys,work hard for the gaffer and some magic just might happen.
Bye bye thread
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Quote from: TerryR on August 09, 2018, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
So going through these and trying to be critical with myself to manage expectations...
Jean Michael Seri:- a lot of industry professionals see his signing as a real coup, his videos look like genuine world class talent with an ability to cover the pitch despite his small stature ability nd an incredible eye for a pass. He's been with the squad aLongside MLM the longest and Nice fans were genuinely disappointed to see him go whilst his reviews from fulham fans who've seen him play sound like he's finding his feet and live up to the hype. An exciting signing by all measures it seems.
Maxim Le Marchand:- came in under the shadow of Seri's signing and has struggled to be viewed by a few fans as anything more than a signing to appease nice. That being said since he's been here he's slowly been given more respect. Has a left foot and seems cultured whilst also has adaptability to play LB although not as smoothly as some would like. Those who've seen him play seem to think he's got more than critics give him credit for and could very well oust ream and become a starting LCB as the season progresses. A season table purchase but long term perhaps better could be found.
Fabricio:- the beginning of the conflict of interest players. Clearly loved by besiktas fans after moving here.. they've even overtaken fulham social media on occasion saying how much they miss him. That said despite the fan fair fans have been left unsure and unconvinced of his ability to control the box. Seems emotional which can be a strength and a weakness. Averaged between 10-15 clean sheets at besiktas but also had Pepe and Vida in front of him. How he'll do I don't know.
Andre schurrle:- seemingly Mr nice guy with evident quality and one of germany's key world cup winning heroes. Has he lost his enthusiasm for football since he reached the top? At borussia dortmund he seemingly lost his way, couple with injuries. That said though when galvanised he showed genuine world class brilliance. Won bundesliga player of the month towards the end of last season for scoring and assisting around 6 goals total in a month. Has all the potential but perhaps needs to feel valued and also commit to fulham project. If he does one suspects knowing the league like he does he could become a key players. Definitely as the skill.
Mitrovic :- a fan favourite. His exploits last season were arguably the most prolific I can remember in my 20-30 years as a fan. He was on fire and suited our style of play incredibly well. That said at 23 he has played in the premiership and given an average return. Will this season prove it was benitez not valuing him properly that was the reason, his age or the league itself.. something makes me think if he stays fit and booking free he could score a good 10-15 goals, which at his age is a very promising sign.
Mawson:- out injured and part of a team that got relegated. Whilst many don't think that reflects on him as an individual player it's important to note and be wary of. Apparently competition for his signature was fierce which suggests many believe he did very well in a poor team, seemingly a natural leader and part of jokanovics desire to have a strong English contingent at 24 he's got a lot of his career ahead and also scores goals. We need to make sure he comes back fit - that's key. But hopefully he'll slot in nicely.
Chambers:- Mawson CB partner for England through the youth leagues these two know each other extremely well. Many arsenal fans didn't get why they let him go.. most saw him as one of their best CB'S and a player who'd shown a lot of form in preseason. Another around 24 but this time only on loan but with a knack for scoring goals it'll be interesting to see how he fits in.. and if he and Mawson start together what happened with signing MLM and Mensah. A loan.
Where it starts getting confusing.
Sergio Rico:- why? Seems to have split opinion as strongly as marmite, only a loan but Sevilla fans either seem gutted or are celebrating the fact they've got a calamitous keeper off their hands. It's hard to understand why we brought in such a polarising player especially when Bettinelli did so well last season and both new GK's seem to have moments of being liabilities.
Joe bryan:- one of the best LB's in the Championship an ability to bomb up and down but untried in the league. Hoping playing next to Mawson, MLM, Chambers and under slavisas guidance he can make the step up.. but there are no guarantees. A risk considering the level of wings in the league. Hell undoubtedly come straight into the starting 11. So from here and at 6mill it could be inspired.
Luciano Vietto :- another who seemingly splits opinions pretty harshly :- apparently according to the athletico Madrid site with an option to buy we're his third loan club in as many years and he's clearly struggled to establish himself. Does he offer us anything more than Kamara does? Time will tell but at the moment it could very well be a dud signing. Does well on football manager though apparently? Will reserve judgement but not overly expectant he'll do much.
Fosu-Mensah :- left of field and hardly mentioned on here before today. A youth player with promise who played relatively well when on loan last season but a utility player. Khan said he was pursuing other options over Montoya, but can't help but feel as a specialist RB which is presumably where he's been brought into add depth Montoya would've been a better signing? Clearly there's a thought process at the club - perhaps FFP? Either way not expecting to see him too much.
Anguissa :- our marquee deadline signing, at 22 he comes having held down DM role at marseille last season as they got to the final of the europa league only for him to have a bit of a nightmare and be responsible for gifting a goal away. Genuinely liked on the whole by marseille fans but whilst more reputable sources claim the fee to be nearer £22m, marseille fans think they've got better of deal, especially when quoting £30m...
Hard to know how today's signings will fair.. a lot are foreign and seem to have a lot to prove
That said though whilst I'm choosing to be critical I do have to commend the khan's for the work they've done and the ambition they've shown.. not only putting the money in but negotiating deals to bring some potentially world class signings to a newly promoted team. Long may it continue.
Thanks for this
Don't know if it was actually useful for anyone but helped me.
093.gif. I still want one more signing,.,......Joka!!!!
Get him signed up NOW!! 😀⚽⚽
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
To think quite a few of us were panicking as we crept into July without a single signing!
Quote from: the nutflush on August 09, 2018, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 09, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
To think quite a few of us were panicking as we crept into July without a single signing!
I have to admit I was one of them. Have just woken up here in Aust and can't believe what I am reading. Five in one day? TK and staff must be ready for a lie down.... COYW!!!!!
Is it time to lock this thread now 049:gif
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
I keep seeing this list of new players repeated in subsequent postings and cringe each time I see Joe Bryan's name shown wrong. Hope he's not seen it yet.
What a Window its been,nothing really silly about it after all,it all came good in the end. 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
Never mind Crouchie there's always the January window. :yay: :yay: :yay:
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: TerryR on August 09, 2018, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: General on August 09, 2018, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Ryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
So going through these and trying to be critical with myself to manage expectations...
Jean Michael Seri:- a lot of industry professionals see his signing as a real coup, his videos look like genuine world class talent with an ability to cover the pitch despite his small stature ability nd an incredible eye for a pass. He's been with the squad aLongside MLM the longest and Nice fans were genuinely disappointed to see him go whilst his reviews from fulham fans who've seen him play sound like he's finding his feet and live up to the hype. An exciting signing by all measures it seems.
Maxim Le Marchand:- came in under the shadow of Seri's signing and has struggled to be viewed by a few fans as anything more than a signing to appease nice. That being said since he's been here he's slowly been given more respect. Has a left foot and seems cultured whilst also has adaptability to play LB although not as smoothly as some would like. Those who've seen him play seem to think he's got more than critics give him credit for and could very well oust ream and become a starting LCB as the season progresses. A season table purchase but long term perhaps better could be found.
Fabricio:- the beginning of the conflict of interest players. Clearly loved by besiktas fans after moving here.. they've even overtaken fulham social media on occasion saying how much they miss him. That said despite the fan fair fans have been left unsure and unconvinced of his ability to control the box. Seems emotional which can be a strength and a weakness. Averaged between 10-15 clean sheets at besiktas but also had Pepe and Vida in front of him. How he'll do I don't know.
Andre schurrle:- seemingly Mr nice guy with evident quality and one of germany's key world cup winning heroes. Has he lost his enthusiasm for football since he reached the top? At borussia dortmund he seemingly lost his way, couple with injuries. That said though when galvanised he showed genuine world class brilliance. Won bundesliga player of the month towards the end of last season for scoring and assisting around 6 goals total in a month. Has all the potential but perhaps needs to feel valued and also commit to fulham project. If he does one suspects knowing the league like he does he could become a key players. Definitely as the skill.
Mitrovic :- a fan favourite. His exploits last season were arguably the most prolific I can remember in my 20-30 years as a fan. He was on fire and suited our style of play incredibly well. That said at 23 he has played in the premiership and given an average return. Will this season prove it was benitez not valuing him properly that was the reason, his age or the league itself.. something makes me think if he stays fit and booking free he could score a good 10-15 goals, which at his age is a very promising sign.
Mawson:- out injured and part of a team that got relegated. Whilst many don't think that reflects on him as an individual player it's important to note and be wary of. Apparently competition for his signature was fierce which suggests many believe he did very well in a poor team, seemingly a natural leader and part of jokanovics desire to have a strong English contingent at 24 he's got a lot of his career ahead and also scores goals. We need to make sure he comes back fit - that's key. But hopefully he'll slot in nicely.
Chambers:- Mawson CB partner for England through the youth leagues these two know each other extremely well. Many arsenal fans didn't get why they let him go.. most saw him as one of their best CB'S and a player who'd shown a lot of form in preseason. Another around 24 but this time only on loan but with a knack for scoring goals it'll be interesting to see how he fits in.. and if he and Mawson start together what happened with signing MLM and Mensah. A loan.
Where it starts getting confusing.
Sergio Rico:- why? Seems to have split opinion as strongly as marmite, only a loan but Sevilla fans either seem gutted or are celebrating the fact they've got a calamitous keeper off their hands. It's hard to understand why we brought in such a polarising player especially when Bettinelli did so well last season and both new GK's seem to have moments of being liabilities.
Joe bryan:- one of the best LB's in the Championship an ability to bomb up and down but untried in the league. Hoping playing next to Mawson, MLM, Chambers and under slavisas guidance he can make the step up.. but there are no guarantees. A risk considering the level of wings in the league. Hell undoubtedly come straight into the starting 11. So from here and at 6mill it could be inspired.
Luciano Vietto :- another who seemingly splits opinions pretty harshly :- apparently according to the athletico Madrid site with an option to buy we're his third loan club in as many years and he's clearly struggled to establish himself. Does he offer us anything more than Kamara does? Time will tell but at the moment it could very well be a dud signing. Does well on football manager though apparently? Will reserve judgement but not overly expectant he'll do much.
Fosu-Mensah :- left of field and hardly mentioned on here before today. A youth player with promise who played relatively well when on loan last season but a utility player. Khan said he was pursuing other options over Montoya, but can't help but feel as a specialist RB which is presumably where he's been brought into add depth Montoya would've been a better signing? Clearly there's a thought process at the club - perhaps FFP? Either way not expecting to see him too much.
Anguissa :- our marquee deadline signing, at 22 he comes having held down DM role at marseille last season as they got to the final of the europa league only for him to have a bit of a nightmare and be responsible for gifting a goal away. Genuinely liked on the whole by marseille fans but whilst more reputable sources claim the fee to be nearer £22m, marseille fans think they've got better of deal, especially when quoting £30m...
Hard to know how today's signings will fair.. a lot are foreign and seem to have a lot to prove
That said though whilst I'm choosing to be critical I do have to commend the khan's for the work they've done and the ambition they've shown.. not only putting the money in but negotiating deals to bring some potentially world class signings to a newly promoted team. Long may it continue.
Thanks for this
Don't know if it was actually useful for anyone but helped me.
Very good General. No player is perfect, well only a very few and as we see on here every day, football fans see things very differently and are extremely bias and sometimes a bit daft !
For me, Slav has now got a squad with great quality, I have been through the squad and think we have at least 3 players for every position. He can now whittle that down to 2 and move some on for development or completely out.
I think our squad is now worth in excess of £250 million. No excuses, it could take a little time, but we should all be extremely delighted with this window. Never perfect, but better than in my wildest dreams.
Quote from: cookieg on August 09, 2018, 11:46:57 PM
Is it time to lock this thread now 049:gif
no, we can still sell players for about another month
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I think our squad is now worth in excess of £250 million. No excuses, it could take a little time, but we should all be extremely delighted with this window. Never perfect, but better than in my wildest dreams.
According to transfermarkt, our squad is worth £200.25 million and we have the 11th most expensive team in the league.
Time to discuss who is leaving and where they are going to. Sale or a loan!
Let's not forget that some who leave may have given their all to get us to the top table. For that they deserve our respect and gratitude
Quote from: Riversider on July 29, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
To all the people on this thread that have posted concerns about our finances and current spending ,our owner Shahid Khan, has a reported personal wealth of 8,000 million !!!
8,000 million pounds, let that figure sink in for a moment,
Shahid Khan spending 50 or 60 or 70 million pounds on players is the equivalent of me spending £5 on my lunch,
We need to spend big this summer and again next summer then after that it will plateau out and it will be a case of 2 or 3 in and 2 or 3 out the same as everybody else,
So please stop fretting and losing sleep over the finances of one of the wealthiest men on Planet Earth, and just enjoy the moment,
COYSW
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Now that the dust is starting to settle, are all the supporters that were fretting over how much we were spending are you still fretting ? Or have you now embraced it for what it is, and that's the greatest transfer window in our illustrious history.
According to this, Fonte will be loaned to Olympiacos after the two clubs reached an agreement.
https://www.ojogo.pt/internacional/portugueses/noticias/interior/rui-fonte-vai-jogar-no-olympiacos-9704881.html
Quote from: twang on August 10, 2018, 06:05:23 PM
According to this, Fonte will be loaned to Olympiacos after the two clubs reached an agreement.
https://www.ojogo.pt/internacional/portugueses/noticias/interior/rui-fonte-vai-jogar-no-olympiacos-9704881.html
Good move, might bang in a few goals to get himself a good move to restart his carreer. Doubt it'll ever get going here.
Quote from: Tabby on August 10, 2018, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: twang on August 10, 2018, 06:05:23 PM
According to this, Fonte will be loaned to Olympiacos after the two clubs reached an agreement.
https://www.ojogo.pt/internacional/portugueses/noticias/interior/rui-fonte-vai-jogar-no-olympiacos-9704881.html
Good move, might bang in a few goals to get himself a good move to restart his carreer. Doubt it'll ever get going here.
Harsh, but I'd like it if he did. Can't argue with that. Snifffle.
Marcelo Djalo's profile has been moved to PL2 squad.. believe Woodrow also played for them against utd yesterday evening.
Have to say the window has exceeded wildest expectations of many - a warm thank you to the Management/Recruitment Teams - now lets gel the players together to form as strong a bond as last year & take The Prem by storm!!
Djalo heading to Extremadura
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
That would be James Norwood.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
Not the same I'm afraid...Ollie has gone to Sheff utd.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
Not the same I'm afraid...Ollie has gone to Sheff utd.
Mince
Going by two of your recent posts, that's at least the second time he has gone from Brighton & Hove Albion to Sheffield United in two days.
Has he a season ticket ?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 14, 2018, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
Not the same I'm afraid...Ollie has gone to Sheff utd.
Mince
Going by two of your recent posts, that's at least the second time he has gone from Brighton & Hove Albion to Sheffield United in two days.
Has he a season ticket ?
Yes for the train.
Ah is it a station then? Perhaps Martin should go too.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 14, 2018, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
That would be James Norwood.
My Sunday paper called him Oliver Norwood.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 14, 2018, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
That would be James Norwood.
You're right, it is James, just checked the Tranmer website, I didn't doubt you for one minute!!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 14, 2018, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 14, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Norwood joined Sheff United yesterday, with view to permanent signing in January.
Is that the same Oliver Norwood that played and scored(his 3rd of the season) for Tranmere Rovers on Saturday?
Not the same I'm afraid...Ollie has gone to Sheff utd.
Mince
Going by two of your recent posts, that's at least the second time he has gone from Brighton & Hove Albion to Sheffield United in two days.
Has he a season ticket ?
Yes for the train.
But we are not a train station.
I'm bracing myself for the announcement Djalo is going on loan somewhere...
Wonder if I can claim a refund for my Djalo home shirt, the only one sold I suspect?
Quote from: SP on August 14, 2018, 06:06:09 PM
I'm bracing myself for the announcement Djalo is going on loan somewhere...
Wonder if I can claim a refund for my Djalo home shirt, the only one sold I suspect?
Same with my Targett shirt, gosh that was a mistake.
Not a waste Rock - he was a part of that epic team that took us back to where we belong !
Quote from: The Rock on August 14, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: SP on August 14, 2018, 06:06:09 PM
I'm bracing myself for the announcement Djalo is going on loan somewhere...
Wonder if I can claim a refund for my Djalo home shirt, the only one sold I suspect?
Same with my Targett shirt, gosh that was a mistake.
I bought a Zamora shirt, just before he was sold. I never wore it until it appeared to be my best version for the White Wall at Wembley.
The Club can confirm that Marcelo Djalo has joined Extremadura on a loan deal until May 31.
Djalo arrived at Fulham from Club Deportivo Lugo last summer and played four times for the Whites, twice in the Carabao Cup and two substitute appearances in the Championship.
Extremadura will be playing their debut season in the Segunda Division in Spain, one league below La Liga, having just won promotion to this level for the first time, via the Play-Offs.
Everyone at the Club wishes Marcelo all the best for the coming season.
Good move for all concerned :54:
So could we still take Boyata from Celtic on a Loan deal ?
Wish Djalo all the best. Good move for him & us. Will get game time.
Quote from: Luka on August 15, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
So could we still take Boyata from Celtic on a Loan deal ?
Only in winter, now no.
Quote from: HV71 on August 14, 2018, 07:33:53 PM
Not a waste Rock - he was a part of that epic team that took us back to where we belong !
True, but on the 18-19 kit. Then again, like distinguishing the Pipex '05 vs Pipex '06 kit, in a few years no one will remember the difference!
Quote from: Luka on August 15, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
So could we still take Boyata from Celtic on a Loan deal ?
Our window has shut. We can do no more deals in. But other Countries windows are still open and so we can still sell or loan players out until end of the month.
Quote from: Colton F.C. on August 09, 2018, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Bryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
George Williams (Forest Green) Free
Marek Rodak (Rotherham) Loan
Marcelo Djalo (Extremadura) Loan
Magnus Norman (Rochdale) Loan
According to this, Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson will join Vendsyssel FF, newly promoted to the Danish Superliga, on a season long loan deal.
https://www.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/vendsyssel-lejer-i-fulham/
Quote from: twang on August 31, 2018, 09:55:45 AM
According to this, Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson will join Vendsyssel FF, newly promoted to the Danish Superliga, on a season long loan deal.
https://www.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/vendsyssel-lejer-i-fulham/
Good. I rate him, but I don't see him getting any first team time. Danish league is pretty decent as well.
Quote from: Tabby on August 31, 2018, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: twang on August 31, 2018, 09:55:45 AM
According to this, Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson will join Vendsyssel FF, newly promoted to the Danish Superliga, on a season long loan deal.
https://www.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/vendsyssel-lejer-i-fulham/
Good. I rate him, but I don't see him getting any first team time. Danish league is pretty decent as well.
So long as it's only a loan, he has potential.
Unless I have missed it any news on Fonte leaving?
He was one I thought certain to leave this month
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on August 31, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
Unless I have missed it any news on Fonte leaving?
He was one I thought certain to leave this month
The only rumor I've seen recently is from this guy on Twitter:
twitter.com/InsiderFulham (http://twitter.com/InsiderFulham)
Don't think he is a respectable source though.
Note in all those Fulham deals the financial details were "undisclosed", how are the media able to put figures on the heads of all players, is it pure guesswork or are there leaks.
Chris Martin gone to Hull
Ben Pringle to Grimsby.
Quote from: Colton F.C. on August 15, 2018, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: Colton F.C. on August 09, 2018, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Fulham
In
Jean Michael Seri (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Maxime Le Marchand (Nice) Undisclosed Details
Fabricio Agosto Ramirez (Besiktas) Undisclosed Details
Andre Schurrle (Borussia Dortmund) Loan Details
Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle United) Undisclosed Details
Alfie Mawson (Swansea City) Undisclosed Details
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan Details
Sergio Rico (Sevilla) Loan Details
Joe Bryan (Bristol City) Undisclosed Details
Luciano Vietto (Atletico Madrid) Loan Details
Timothy Fosu-Mensah (Man Utd) Loan Details
Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa (Marseille) Undisclosed Details
Out
Ryan Fredericks (West Ham) Free Details
Stephen Humphrys (Scunthorpe) Loan Details
Elijah Adebayo (Swindon) Loan Details
David Button (Brighton) Undisclosed Details
Tayo Edun (Ipswich Town) Undisclosed Details
George Williams (Forest Green) Free
Marek Rodak (Rotherham) Loan
Marcelo Djalo (Extremadura) Loan
Magnus Norman (Rochdale) Loan
Tayo edun is a season long
Dembele 2, Celtic to Lyon 18 mill
According to the link below Rui Fonte will join Lille, where his brother plays, on a season long loan.
http://www.record.pt/internacional/paises/franca/lille/detalhe/rui-fonte-junta-se-ao-irmao-no-lille?ref=HP_Ultimas
Quote from: cday908 on July 31, 2018, 12:02:11 PM
Would Aaron Cresswell be considered as a viable LB option?
Had a lot of potential back when he left Ipswich but seems to have been pushed to the bottom of the pile a little with West Ham's recent business.
Great suggestion cday908 in the summer - still potential for this to go through to shore up the defence? Could be a cracking signing