Think it maybe a good idea to have a dedicated thread, so we can update on progress with the Riverside. If you have any, or, come across any pictures, please post them here.
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Just thinking that yesterday.
This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update
Have they struck oil yet ?
Actually, they're searching for the Michael Jackson statue.
Quote from: Fulham1959 on June 06, 2019, 03:41:54 PM
Actually, they're searching for the Michael Jackson statue.
or Mark Fotheringhams Man of the Match awards
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!
Quote from: Southdowns White on June 06, 2019, 04:19:29 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!
Must have been Zamora
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
I love how construction workers in this country work so slow.
What progress has been made exactly, or have they just been testing the equipment for the past 2 weeks?.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on June 06, 2019, 06:03:02 PM
I love how construction workers in this country work so slow.
What progress has been made exactly, or have they just been testing the equipment for the past 2 weeks?.
maybe the tide has something to do with it ?
Love how people just assume you stick up a building, and that is that, Christ..
There will be surveys to perform, archaeological scrapes, cairns/platforms set up to load/unload materials, and what people also forget, is that they will have to work with the tide of the the Thames.
Also, the underpinning will take its time, nothing will really move until this is done, as the stand will rely on this for it's foundations.
Can't help some fans, moaned when it wasn't going ahead, moaned when it did, now moaning that it's to slow! :doh:
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up
There all loafing around thinking of their pie and mash for lunch.
Looking at the first pic don't you just pic the old one up and drop the new one into place? Seems pretty simple to me.
PS to earlier post - this thread is going to be the source of much amusement!
My concern is the lack of orange cones. Over here council put 6 around a footpath repair about 2m square waiting for new seal to be laid.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on June 06, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up
Or a sight of "Builders Bum" have these men no respect for the history of their Industry!
Looking at the work in the river it makes you think that perhaps this preparatory work could have started before the end of the season without interfering with the Riverside stand.
Quote from: I Ronic on June 07, 2019, 07:55:06 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on June 06, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up
Or a sight of "Builders Bum" have these men no respect for the history of their Industry!
The official term for this is 'Labourer's Cleft'
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on June 06, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
Love how people just assume you stick up a building, and that is that, Christ..
There will be surveys to perform, archaeological scrapes, cairns/platforms set up to load/unload materials, and what people also forget, is that they will have to work with the tide of the the Thames.
Also, the underpinning will take its time, nothing will really move until this is done, as the stand will rely on this for it's foundations.
Can't help some fans, moaned when it wasn't going ahead, moaned when it did, now moaning that it's to slow! :doh:
Agree. Working in construction there is always a project tipping point, particularly on large projects. It can seem like not much is being achieved on site, but it is all the stuff that you cannot see. Then suddenly over the space of the last few months (probably 6 months in our case) a building suddenly and 'quickly' appears and takes shape.
Quote from: Ols_S on June 07, 2019, 12:02:34 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on June 06, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
Love how people just assume you stick up a building, and that is that, Christ..
There will be surveys to perform, archaeological scrapes, cairns/platforms set up to load/unload materials, and what people also forget, is that they will have to work with the tide of the the Thames.
Also, the underpinning will take its time, nothing will really move until this is done, as the stand will rely on this for it's foundations.
Can't help some fans, moaned when it wasn't going ahead, moaned when it did, now moaning that it's to slow! :doh:
Agree. Working in construction there is always a project tipping point, particularly on large projects. It can seem like not much is being achieved on site, but it is all the stuff that you cannot see. Then suddenly over the space of the last few months (probably 6 months in our case) a building suddenly and 'quickly' appears and takes shape.
Yes some serious work going on there, people in Pink High Viz they dont hand them out to just anybody.
The club should put a live stream camera on the other side of the Thames so we can watch the progress.
Quote from: cookieg on June 07, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
The club should put a live stream camera on the other side of the Thames so we can watch the progress.
CravenCam
Quote from: I Ronic on June 07, 2019, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: cookieg on June 07, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
The club should put a live stream camera on the other side of the Thames so we can watch the progress.
CravenCam
Top of the Riverside looking down,
Quote from: Neil D on June 06, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Southdowns White on June 06, 2019, 04:19:29 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!
Must have been Zamora
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
Nah... Tosh's misses went into Bishop's park or Stevenage road (depending on which end). more likely to be from John Chenhall's clearances - there's a rumour that one ended up in a barge and turned up in Greenwich. Now THAT's a long kick!
Not many balls in the river next season as I expect the Riverside stand to be there all winter.
The first works will be on the river putting in piling and to establish footings for the new stand. Only when that is completed will they demolish the present stand.
I may be wrong but I would have thought knocking down the present stand first would destabilise the foundations possibly affecting the present Riverside wall.
Looking forward to moving back to the Riverside on completion.
Brentford have someone unofficial with a drone that goes around the stadium every week and posts great quality updates. Any own one fancy doing something similar? Just watch out for the flight path above lol!
Quote from: sarnian on June 07, 2019, 03:45:13 PM
Not many balls in the river next season as I expect the Riverside stand to be there all winter.
I may be wrong but I would have thought knocking down the present stand first would destabilise the foundations possibly affecting the present Riverside wall.
Looking forward to moving back to the Riverside on completion.
Any idea where the dugouts will be?
Adjacent to the half way line!!!
Lifted this image feom Twitter. Looks like the Cottage is getting some work done also.
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Quote from: sunburywhite on June 06, 2019, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: Fulham1959 on June 06, 2019, 03:41:54 PM
Actually, they're searching for the Michael Jackson statue.
or Mark Fotheringhams Man of the Match awards
Or my shed
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Bad weather stopped the cricket and the building works?
I used to do a lot in the exhibition business. We always reckoned once the Hoover came it was job done!
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Thank you FOF, great shots, very interesting.
Section of H1 being removed to facilitate a disabled section, Bishops Park being segregated off to store machinery and equipment.
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surprised they didn't try and sell the seats as mementos
So, they are extending the marine break wall further in to the river? Assume they are widening the walk way and people will be able to walk along the river behind the new stand?
Quote from: lomotd on June 07, 2019, 05:40:06 PM
Brentford have someone unofficial with a drone that goes around the stadium every week and posts great quality updates. Any own one fancy doing something similar? Just watch out for the flight path above lol!
The Bees always have plenty of drones circling....
I love the humour but the hard work has already begun and it will be good when next season starts and we can all see the progress. Meanwhile thanks for this
Quote from: love4ffc on June 13, 2019, 11:15:31 PM
So, they are extending the marine break wall further in to the river? Assume they are widening the walk way and people will be able to walk along the river behind the new stand?
That's long been the plan. http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2017/december/01/fulham-fc-submits-riverside-plans
Quote from: love4ffc on June 13, 2019, 11:15:31 PM
So, they are extending the marine break wall further in to the river? Assume they are widening the walk way and people will be able to walk along the river behind the new stand?
Jeez, where have you been the last 7 years ?
Could we agree that, once the foundations are in place. The new stand, which is fairly small by modern standards (of teams in the top 2 divisions) Should shoot up out of no where then?
Still think it'll be a nice little stand when inside the ground. Definitely not big or the biggest, definitely far far from the best. But that's definitely what makes Fulham. Fulham.
No pillars will be nice though!
Quote from: fcfulham55 on June 14, 2019, 06:04:11 PM
Could we agree that, once the foundations are in place. The new stand, which is fairly small by modern standards (of teams in the top 2 divisions) Should shoot up out of no where then?
Still think it'll be a nice little stand when inside the ground. Definitely not big or the biggest, definitely far far from the best. But that's definitely what makes Fulham. Fulham.
No pillars will be nice though!
Sorry mate but physically the stand is not small by any stretch of the imagination. Its a seven level structure made to look even bigger due to a distintive & unique roof which appears to hover over it, it dwarves the current stand .
It loses capacity at either end due to the apartments, if allowed to continue you probably could've squeezed another 1500 or so seats in.
You say far far from the best?? You do realise this is one of the most expensive single stands built in this country right ? For a demanding owner well used to the superb facilities available at stadiums in the USA, for 100 million quid rest assured it will be as good , not as big , as nearly anywhere in Britain
Fulham sending out leaflet to locals about stand redevelopment's effect on Bishops Park and materials arriving on site
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With the compound behind the Putney Bridge stand why not get that done after the Riverside? Even though I am a massive fan of the Riverside we are developing the only true stand we have. I can't stand the temporary scaffolding seating in the other 3 stands!
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on June 16, 2019, 08:43:08 PM
With the compound behind the Putney Bridge stand why not get that done after the Riverside? Even though I am a massive fan of the Riverside we are developing the only true stand we have. I can't stand the temporary scaffolding seating in the other 3 stands!
To have the Putney end down too would be amazing. A two tiered stand again, put a tv gantry up there too and sit the away fans up there.... just like spurs used to at WHL
I was told ( a very reliable source ) that when MAF was granted permission to redevelop the Riverside Stand in 2012 that he was also looking at plans for the Putney End. I was told this a few months before his Riverside plans were approved.
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
Quote from: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
Are there pictures on this thread? I'm not seeing them, but it looks like they've been posted.
Quote from: General on June 17, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Quote from: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!
All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.
Anyone know if the changing rooms will move to the Riverside in the new design? Or staying where they are (with the walk across the pitch to the dugouts?)
Quote from: Ols_S on June 17, 2019, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: General on June 17, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Quote from: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!
All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.
The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.
Quote from: I Ronic on June 17, 2019, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Ols_S on June 17, 2019, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: General on June 17, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Quote from: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!
All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.
The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.
That is when the tide is out !
I presume deliveries will be timed to take advantage of the tide and there's supposed to be a pontoon in the river too
Quote from: wiresandmore on June 17, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Anyone know if the changing rooms will move to the Riverside in the new design? Or staying where they are (with the walk across the pitch to the dugouts?)
i'd love to know that answer too
Quote from: The Rational Fan on June 18, 2019, 02:13:51 AM
Quote from: wiresandmore on June 17, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Anyone know if the changing rooms will move to the Riverside in the new design? Or staying where they are (with the walk across the pitch to the dugouts?)
i'd love to know that answer too
the inital plans are still to have them in the cottage.
Quote from: Roberty on June 17, 2019, 04:43:23 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 17, 2019, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Ols_S on June 17, 2019, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: General on June 17, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Quote from: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!
All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.
The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.
That is when the tide is out !
I presume deliveries will be timed to take advantage of the tide and there's supposed to be a pontoon in the river too
Think there is a target of 40% of all the work to go via the river.
Whoosh
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2019, 06:48:45 AM
Quote from: Roberty on June 17, 2019, 04:43:23 PM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 17, 2019, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Ols_S on June 17, 2019, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: General on June 17, 2019, 08:01:31 AM
Quote from: David I on June 16, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Good luck delivering steels and any other large item to site. Narrow roads and 90 degree bends!?!
I'm assuming most materials will get to the site via the Thames.
On the larger stuff probably. Tide would be fun!
All the smaller, pallet stuff, i expect would come via lorry.
The cottage side of the river is shallow. With no discernable flow and very muddy. Can't see anything being delivered via the river.
That is when the tide is out !
I presume deliveries will be timed to take advantage of the tide and there's supposed to be a pontoon in the river too
Think there is a target of 40% of all the work to go via the river.
Nice to see a post from you again :) Could they include teabreak bacon rolls in that %?
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 25, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.
:plus one:
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:35:03 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 25, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.
:plus one:
Another vote from me.
Posters like you are vital for the board.
MJG ????
Quote from: Southdowns White on June 06, 2019, 04:19:29 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!
I reckon AK-47 contributed most of them, his shoots have both the distance and accuracy required to achieve such a feat.
Old packet of Woodbines belonging to Tosh still had 3 in it..😯
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 27, 2019, 05:28:54 AM
Old packet of Woodbines belonging to Tosh still had 3 in it..😯
Can't have been Tosh's then, probably George Best trying to juggle them when p****d
Bit going in Bishops Park, couldnt get any views from either end. Parking restrictions going in next week as guessing demolition proper starting?
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Any updates here?
Yes. It is going ahead!
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
Got to be from Tosh, boy, what a shot he had on him. Share your hope Fernie.
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Quote from: Jimpav on June 25, 2019, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 25, 2019, 01:35:03 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 25, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Yes, MJG - far too interesting a poster to stay away, good to hear from you.
:plus one:
Another vote from me.
Posters like you are vital for the board.
Sorry, bit belated but great to see you posting MJG.
So, it is really happening, Please keep the interesting pictures coming.
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!
Quote from: Burt on July 08, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!
Didn't they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby's old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on July 08, 2019, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Burt on July 08, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!
Didn't they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby's old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
If true it wouldn't have been the riverside stand but the Putney End as it was about the same time we got promoted that the baseball ground was demolished
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Wow I didn't know they got as far as actually removing seats!
Quote from: Ged on July 08, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on July 08, 2019, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Burt on July 08, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!
Didn't they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby's old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
If true it wouldn't have been the riverside stand but the Putney End as it was about the same time we got promoted that the baseball ground was demolished
That's the first time I have heard that! I wonder if there's any truth in it?
I am fairly positive it did happen ! I may need to check my old programmes...
Thanks for the photos.
Gets me wondering how much colder and windier it will be once the existing stand comes down. Cheery thought for a July evening I know.
Quote from: Burt on July 09, 2019, 09:46:23 AM
Quote from: Ged on July 08, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on July 08, 2019, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Burt on July 08, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Yes - took me back to the dark days in the 80s!!
Didn't they change the Riverside seats with new ones purchased from Derby's old Baseball Ground ? Sure they did ....
If true it wouldn't have been the riverside stand but the Putney End as it was about the same time we got promoted that the baseball ground was demolished
That's the first time I have heard that! I wonder if there's any truth in it?
Not sure the old baseball ground had that style of seats when it closed, but could be wrong.
Quote from: _Putney_ on July 09, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Wow I didn't know they got as far as actually removing seats!
Blocks of seats were removed over a period of a few weeks, presumably to reduce overheads as attendances were so low. I recall seeing a few photos of what I imagine was the early 80s?
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
+1 100%
Quote from: SP on July 09, 2019, 06:45:56 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on July 09, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: SP on July 08, 2019, 09:26:57 PM
Great pics, thank you.
The last time they started removing the seats from the Riverside it was part of the general running down of our club. How brilliant this time it's for possitive reasons.
Wow I didn't know they got as far as actually removing seats!
Blocks of seats were removed over a period of a few weeks, presumably to reduce overheads as attendances were so low. I recall seeing a few photos of what I imagine was the early 80s?
I wonder how much it cost to pay the people to remove the seats XD
Wooden seats were common in a lot of football grounds prior to the Bradford fire. The JH stand here at Fulham was closed until a sprinkler system was fitted. Supporters were caged in grounds following the Sheff Weds disaster. In fact football supporters were treated incredibly badly during the 1980's
We've seen worse days.
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A couple of comments - They have probably sold the seats to another club, many years ago I remember Mansfield Town buying the whole Hurst Park stand (Horse racing near Hampton Court) and does this all mean the end of the puddle in the gate at Bishops Park?
Quote from: Fulham Joe on July 10, 2019, 12:53:05 PM
We've seen worse days.
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Was this when we announced crowd changes to the team.
Quote from: Dodger53 on July 10, 2019, 01:49:17 PM
A couple of comments - They have probably sold the seats to another club, many years ago I remember Mansfield Town buying the whole Hurst Park stand (Horse racing near Hampton Court) and does this all mean the end of the puddle in the gate at Bishops Park?
Hi Ian,
Valerie and I sat in that stand when we were 0-2 down at halftime and finally won 3-2, back in 1969-70, just before leaving England for the USA.
Quote from: Fulham Joe on July 10, 2019, 12:53:05 PM
We've seen worse days.
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Don't say that!
The "fine figure" in the red & blue top with hand carefully placed on hip is ME!!
Minus (for some reason) the proverbial King Edward cigar smoked during matches to calm my nerves
How I miss the arguments with the occasional away fans who used to dare to stand with us in the Putney End
Now of course I am an old git so far more sensible (well not really)
Great days,bless the 3,500!!
COYW!!
Designs been amended, health club instead of apartments at the Putney end now
I have it, on good authority, there is suspected Roman gold buried along the river.
I loved those weeds at the Putney End.
Gave us a real 'home town' club
Those weeds were Cardiff Supporters
Nice shot of Craven Cottage and can see how much of the park is being taken up with the work compound.
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It would be nice to have a glimpse of the works programme, I wonder when the demolition of the stand is due to take place, sometime during the season I imagine.
It is after all the seats have been removed along with any other disposable items and all electrical supplies including essential electrical supplies to floodlights etc have been cut off or diverted. Water supplies etc. It all takes time you know
Quote from: filham on July 14, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
It would be nice to have a glimpse of the works programme, I wonder when the demolition of the stand is due to take place, sometime during the season I imagine.
Main demolition is due to start in late August or start of September.
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Quote from: MJG on July 14, 2019, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: filham on July 14, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
It would be nice to have a glimpse of the works programme, I wonder when the demolition of the stand is due to take place, sometime during the season I imagine.
Main demolition is due to start in late August or start of September.
It is going to be interesting to see the work progress match by match, lose a match and at least we will be able to say at least the stand is coming on nicely.
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
exciting to see that barge move in!
More like it Barged it's way in.
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2019, 06:28:56 PM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
I drove past Brentford New ground recently and wasn't that impressed.Looks out of proportion at one end.Still will much improvement on their current hovel.
Quote from: Penfold on June 07, 2019, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: I Ronic on June 07, 2019, 07:55:06 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on June 06, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
What sort of building site is that......not a cuppa tea in sight, no pictures of builders looking down holes ..... they'd better buck there ideas up
Or a sight of "Builders Bum" have these men no respect for the history of their Industry!
The official term for this is 'Labourer's Cleft'
"Dagenham cleavage"
I have not read everything so apologies if already stated......what is the capacity with the stand gone?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on July 23, 2019, 07:54:18 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2019, 06:28:56 PM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
I drove past Brentford New ground recently and wasn't that impressed.Looks out of proportion at one end.Still will much improvement on their current hovel.
Is out of proportion a problem for you ? If it is may I then suggest you steer well clear of Craven Cottage in two years time.
Lovely view from the bypass, nice and high looking down, I thought it looks pretty good.
Quote from: Riversider on July 23, 2019, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on July 23, 2019, 07:54:18 AM
Quote from: Riversider on July 22, 2019, 06:28:56 PM
I flew over the new Brentford stadium a couple of hours ago and it looks amazing, look forward to one day flying over a completed Craven Cottage and having the same feeling of awe.
I drove past Brentford New ground recently and wasn't that impressed.Looks out of proportion at one end.Still will much improvement on their current hovel.
Is out of proportion a problem for you ? If it is may I then suggest you steer well clear of Craven Cottage in two years time.
Just my opinion but I think it will look great a mixture of old and new.I do think we will need to sort out both Hammersmith and Putney ends once the Riverside is done.
Brentford's new ground looks like the back of a B&Q when you go past on the train. Across between the Madejski and Loftus Road.
Be good to get a view of what is happening at the ground on Saturday.
Do they work on Saturdays?
Quote from: Andy S on July 23, 2019, 06:16:32 PM
Do they work on Saturdays?
What, at time and a half?....Nah, doubt it......
Quote from: ron on July 25, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Andy S on July 23, 2019, 06:16:32 PM
Do they work on Saturdays?
What, at time and a half?....Nah, doubt it....
Or do you mean the players?
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on July 26, 2019, 04:39:06 PM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST
And also confirmed that demolition of existing stand to take place in September
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on July 26, 2019, 04:39:06 PM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST
We knew this anyway, as a representative of Friends of Fulham had been in contact with the Club, asking if there'd be one implemented, and they said yes, after we ran a successful Twitter campaign.
The demolition will start in September I doubt that it will be a 5 min job
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Hmm didnt cross my mind about the bar going, what are they doing for the hammy end
Quote from: Andy S on July 27, 2019, 12:16:29 AM
The demolition will start in September I doubt that it will be a 5 min job
I would have thought they would have completed the Construction by now.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 27, 2019, 02:48:46 PM
Hmm didnt cross my mind about the bar going, what are they doing for the hammy end
There is a Yard of Ale contest going on at this very moment.
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Thanks for the pic FoF. My wife asked what's happening with the ground developments so now I can show her with me in the picture too.
Can someone explain the reference to the "Hammersmith Mound" in the latest FST notes. Is this the patch in front of the George Cohen statue?
I tried to find out on Saturday whether the back gate which exits onto the towpath towards Hammersmith, will remain in use throughout the demolition but no-one seemed to know.
Do the FST notes suggest that this exit will stay in place?
So where is the corporate box now?
Seeing her in this state does feel like a fall from grace for a stand that us Riversders love (despite our poor press).
Riverside Stand Work Update(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/2019/dsc_1318.JPG?w=622&h=278)
Fulham Football Club looks forward to welcoming supporters back to Craven Cottage this season and ahead of our SkyBet Championship clash with Blackburn this Saturday, we can provide an update on the Riverside Stand works taking place.
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Following the installation of the constructor's compound in Bishops Park at the end of June there have been changes that you will notice. The compound itself is hoarded off at a section of Bishops Park and prior to its installation ground protection was laid, along with protection of trees in the vicinity. This compound, starting adjacent to the Putney End wall, occupies an area of 5500 m2 within Fielders Meadow.
The Riverside Stand has already undertaken a soft strip of any non-structural elements. This is an essential part of the preparation that is required prior to demolition. As a consequence, you will notice seating has been removed from the stand along with the fixtures and furnishing in the lounges.
In addition, a temporary gantry has been built pitchside, adjacent to the current shell that remains from the stand. This gantry will be used for media purposes and by the analysis teams of the home and away sides. In order to separate the works taking place inside the stadium bowl, hoarding has been installed and painted at both the Hammersmith & Putney End.
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Recent work has included the removal of the hospitality boxes in the corner of the Putney End which have been taken down in the past week.
Additionally, a new disabled deck has been installed in the Putney end along with a temporary first aid room, which is located behind the stand.
Those observing the works from the Putney bank will notice a jacked-up barge in place on the river. This barge is adorned with a crane and has been thoroughly tested, ready to commence piling. On Tuesday, the piling rig, the first of its kind in the country, arrived by barge. A team will test and commission the 70 tonne machine. It was transferred onto the jacked-up platform on Wednesday with piling (some piles up to 50m deep) set to commence imminently.
Saturday's fixture v Blackburn Rovers will also see the players from both sides lining up in front of the Johnny Haynes stand before the match.
We will be providing regular updates on the works during the season however, during this time, the overall capacity at Craven Cottage is reduced to three stands being in operation and away areas now limited to Blocks P5 & P6 within the Putney End.
Supporters are reminded that whilst three sides of the ground will be in operation during the Riverside Stand works, the Putney End will have dedicated blocks for home and away supporters. There is no longer a mixed/neutral section within the Putney End seating blocks.
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Whilst the Putney End concourse area will be mixed, blocks P1, P2, P3 & P4 are designated home seating areas only. P5 & P6 is the designated away area.
There will be an appropriate security presence in the Putney End for each game to manage Home and Away Fans sharing facilities in the concourse area. This will be based upon consultation between the club, police and relevant local authorities.
Following this consultation, the Club will be enforcing sale restrictions. This also means that Season Ticket Holders and Members purchasing tickets for others will still be possible, however, the purchaser is responsible for these tickets and must ensure that seats occupied in the home seating areas are by Fulham supporters.
There should not be any away supporters in any of the home seating areas inside the ground. Away supporters identified in home areas will be ejected.
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/august/07/riverside-stand-update
Can't help feeling the wrong stand is being demolished.
Quote from: SP on July 28, 2019, 11:56:03 AM
Seeing her in this state does feel like a fall from grace for a stand that us Riversders love (despite our poor press).
Yes, the end of an era, difficult 😢
Quote from: Neil D on August 07, 2019, 02:26:57 PM
Can't help feeling the wrong stand is being demolished.
For gods sake man. Let them know before its too late
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 07, 2019, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Neil D on August 07, 2019, 02:26:57 PM
Can't help feeling the wrong stand is being demolished.
For gods sake man. Let them know before its too late
Aaaggghhhhh they knocked down the wrong listed building [emoji6]
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Does anybody know what the actual capacity figure is for this season? I know it's around 19000 but what is the exact figure?
Quote from: The Enclosurite on August 07, 2019, 10:28:56 PM
Does anybody know what the actual capacity figure is for this season? I know it's around 19000 but what is the exact figure?
there is no exact figure as such because it will change due to various works going on, but 19k is standard figure to quote.
Quote from: MJG on August 07, 2019, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: The Enclosurite on August 07, 2019, 10:28:56 PM
Does anybody know what the actual capacity figure is for this season? I know it's around 19000 but what is the exact figure?
there is no exact figure as such because it will change due to various works going on, but 19k is standard figure to quote.
Ah right, that makes sense. Thanks MJG.
I walked past the ground yesterday and very busy with builders etc. Most of the activity was behind the Putney end in Bishop's park behind the fenced off areas. Quite a lot of the park in this enclosure was being dug up, moved etc. Does anyone know why or what is going in this area?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 26, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on July 26, 2019, 04:39:06 PM
Club confirmed a time-lapse camera to be set up - via FST
We knew this anyway, as a representative of Friends of Fulham had been in contact with the Club, asking if there'd be one implemented, and they said yes, after we ran a successful Twitter campaign.
Seems the time-lapse camera they are fitting is being fitted on a time-lapse itself :005:
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744 simulation of the building work over next 9 months
Quote from: MJG on August 14, 2019, 11:23:43 AM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744 simulation of the building work over next 9 months
Leaves me thinking that there is one hell of a lot of work to do in year 2 to get the stand anywhere near ready, the internal fit out will take ages,
If I was a betting man I would say that the seats may be installed in time for the first game of the season but it will be months later before the stand is completed internally.
I noticed that in his interview Scott was saying that the atmosphere would be reduced at the ground without the Riverside stand. I presume that he meant sound from the other parts of the ground blowing out over the Thames rather than a loss of noise from there as in my experience dropping a bag of pins would be heard throughout the old stand at any game.
Quote from: Riversider on August 14, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 14, 2019, 11:23:43 AM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744 simulation of the building work over next 9 months
Leaves me thinking that there is one hell of a lot of work to do in year 2 to get the stand anywhere near ready, the internal fit out will take ages,
If I was a betting man I would say that the seats may be installed in time for the first game of the season but it will be months later before the stand is completed internally.
I've always thought it to be very ambitious to do it all within two seasons whole staying at the ground.
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station. Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too. Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
Quote from: Carborundum on August 14, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station. Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too. Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
The frame will go up in no time at all that's the relative easy part, it's the fitting out and the wiring that will take time, when I watched that time lapse video I was expecting to see the frame underway before the end of the video,
If anybody knows when the frame is scheduled to be completed by I would be really interested to know.
Quote from: Riversider on August 14, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 14, 2019, 11:23:43 AM
https://twitter.com/dm_bim/status/1161539625317535744 simulation of the building work over next 9 months
Leaves me thinking that there is one hell of a lot of work to do in year 2 to get the stand anywhere near ready, the internal fit out will take ages,
If I was a betting man I would say that the seats may be installed in time for the first game of the season but it will be months later before the stand is completed internally.
After witnessing a garage and hotel building from my office, my comments are as follows. The first phase takes more time since the basic work is normally very specific. The remaining phases deal with modular parts that are mounted in place. I believe and hope that everything will be ready according to plan.
They should add some nice music to the movie to make everyone happy.
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Quote from: KingofCheese on August 14, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
I noticed that in his interview Scott was saying that the atmosphere would be reduced at the ground without the Riverside stand. I presume that he meant sound from the other parts of the ground blowing out over the Thames rather than a loss of noise from there as in my experience dropping a bag of pins would be heard throughout the old stand at any game.
Lol.
I thought the three builders in the stand made more noise during the Blackburn game than the original Riverside crowd.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 14, 2019, 04:20:53 PM
Quote from: KingofCheese on August 14, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
I noticed that in his interview Scott was saying that the atmosphere would be reduced at the ground without the Riverside stand. I presume that he meant sound from the other parts of the ground blowing out over the Thames rather than a loss of noise from there as in my experience dropping a bag of pins would be heard throughout the old stand at any game.
Lol.
I thought the three builders in the stand made more noise during the Blackburn game than the original Riverside crowd.
It must have been a real shock to the Blackburn fans to hear anything coming from that area!
Riverside Works Update
Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:07
Piling work into the river started last week, with the first pile - measuring a depth of 32m below the riverbed - completed last Monday.
Once the core was hollowed out, steel cages were inserted and concrete was poured in. Four piles have been completed with the fifth pile due to be finished this week. Piling work will continue thereafter, with around 50 piles in total being inserted into the river.
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Above: The first of 50 piles.
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Above: Earlier this month, the piling rig (the first of its kind in the country) arrived by barge. A team then arrived to test and commission the 70 tonne machine, before it was transferred onto the jacked up platform prior to the commencement of the piling.
That looks like every piling rig that ice ever seen, what's so special about it, to make it the first of it's kind?
Quote from: Carborundum on August 14, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station. Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too. Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
What's happening to the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo? Would be interested to know. I used to commute into Waterloo until about 18 years ago and haven't been there since Eurostar moved to ST Pancras.
Quote from: Holders on August 30, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on August 14, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station. Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too. Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
What's happening to the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo? Would be interested to know. I used to commute into Waterloo until about 18 years ago and haven't been there since Eurostar moved to ST Pancras.
The five platforms (20-24) should have been returned to normal use by last May, and there was an intention to turn the former Eurostar Terminal Building into a shopping mall. Running a reliable train service to schedule may follow at some indefinite time in the future, if you can still afford to use it ...
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2019, 12:59:16 AM
That looks like every piling rig that ice ever seen, what's so special about it, to make it the first of it's kind?
I understood it to be a specialised pile design due to the location and the need to drive them into the river. I should think that it is a fairly standard piling rig with a specialised bit?
Quote from: Riversider on August 14, 2019, 02:46:12 PM
Quote from: Carborundum on August 14, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station. Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too. Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
The frame will go up in no time at all that's the relative easy part, it's the fitting out and the wiring that will take time, when I watched that time lapse video I was expecting to see the frame underway before the end of the video,
If anybody knows when the frame is scheduled to be completed by I would be really interested to know.
You also have the core walls going up from December. Looks like there are 3 or 4 protected cores as you would expect. The frame for the remaining takes its strength from that.
All looks very serious ... and exciting. Will be a cracking spectacle when complete.
Good to see this.
*IF* they really do start next July with all those exceptional river- and groundworks completed, then you'd have thought that a further 12 months ought to suffice for erecting the structure and fitting out those aspects that are pitch-facing and in other ways essential for the convening of a football crowd. After all, a lot of that stuff -- like seats, turnstiles, toilets -- will not be requiring time-consuming craftsmanship.
Maybe two years will suffice for everything else too, but there is scope for slippage in the sense that features for non-matchdays -- which involve quite a lot of the project -- could be fitted out past the seasonal start if need be.
any updates?
Quote from: fulhamross on September 05, 2019, 11:58:05 AM
any updates?
I've not got an update but hoping that there should be a good lot of progress over the international week. The construction programme would have planned around football fixtures so when its guaranteed that there's not football at the cottage for a while, its a good opportunity to do some major works.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 30, 2019, 09:44:11 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 30, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on August 14, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
My commute involves the twin delights of negotiating the Twickenham station re-build and the re-vamp of the old Eurostar platforms at Waterloo station. Both have been, in their own way, interesting to see develop and I expect the Riverside Stand will be too. Large expanses of time with not much apparently happening followed by occasional spurts would seem to be the norm.
What's happening to the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo? Would be interested to know. I used to commute into Waterloo until about 18 years ago and haven't been there since Eurostar moved to ST Pancras.
The five platforms (20-24) should have been returned to normal use by last May, and there was an intention to turn the former Eurostar Terminal Building into a shopping mall. Running a reliable train service to schedule may follow at some indefinite time in the future, if you can still afford to use it ...
Yes indeed. Platforms 20-24 have achieved the same [insert adjective or expletive of choice] level of service as 1 - 19.
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Would've expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don't worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍
Quote from: Fernhurst on September 12, 2019, 11:10:23 AM
Would've expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don't worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍
Fernhurst, did you chant that when Vic was manager? :022:
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No Captain, never forgave him for selling Gentleman Jim Langley !!
Quote from: Fernhurst on September 12, 2019, 03:32:08 PM
No Captain, never forgave him for selling Gentleman Jim Langley !!
Or Rodney Marsh!
Or sacking Arthur Stevens
Quote from: Peabody on September 12, 2019, 11:15:25 PM
Or sacking Arthur Stevens
I had forgotten that Peabody. An iconic name for the club from playing to coaching and that pillock sacks him. Mind you Beddy left on a sour note. Why do these things happen? :031: :031: :031: :031:
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I was only young but remember feeling quite pleased when that bloke was appointed due to his Ajax, Barcelona background.
Came in and scythed our club apart.
Glad to see the back of him.
But enough about Ranieri 😜
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Have they struck oil yet ?
I wonder how the snails are doing?
Nothing much to add here.
I waS wondering? ........ piling, piling, piling I suppose. Well at least the weather should have kept the project on track.
Quote from: Fernhurst on September 12, 2019, 11:10:23 AM
Would've expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don't worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍
There must be a timeline for the project, it maybe available to us. If it is, when will the stand be down?
076.got
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 13, 2019, 10:55:27 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 12, 2019, 10:23:19 AM
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Have they struck oil yet ?
Sorry No.
Items found So far and waiting to be claimed.
1 set of Dentures.
Return Train Ticket to Orpington,dated 25th March 1959
Packet of Tosh Chamberlain's Woodbines(Unopened)
Blue Trench Coat(with shopping list in pocket)
1/2lb of cheese
Jar of Blackcurrant Jam
Packet of Rich tea
Packet of Firelighters
1/4 lb of Dolly Mixtures.
1 Gold Watch engraved(To Rupert Sidebottom) champion roadsweeper of Putney 1937.
A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.
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Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 30, 2019, 03:41:12 AM
Quote from: Fernhurst on September 12, 2019, 11:10:23 AM
Would've expected to see a bit more of the Stand down by now. Maybe, after Saturday when they have a clear fortnight before the ground is required again and more progress will be seen as per the the master schedule.
Don't worry about the o/t rates, get them in Sunday and crack on.
Come on you Buckingham boys.
👍 👍
There must be a timeline for the project, it maybe available to us. If it is, when will the stand be down?
Main "deconstruction" of the existing stand is now scheduled for October/November
Quote from: bog on September 13, 2019, 09:12:43 AM
Quote from: Peabody on September 12, 2019, 11:15:25 PM
Or sacking Arthur Stevens
I had forgotten that Peabody. An iconic name for the club from playing to coaching and that pillock sacks him. Mind you Beddy left on a sour note. Why do these things happen? :031: :031: :031: :031:
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I think it was letting Mullerry go to Spurs without consutation that resulted in Beddy leaving. What a record Beddy had as player and manager for us, I challenge any one to match it.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 30, 2019, 06:17:30 AM
A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.
After we played a (southern?) semi v Wycombe in the Autoglass at home, I remember the programme the following game was asking if anyone had found a prosthetic leg that was lost whilst celebrating the Wycombe win in the away end. I always thought it was a wind up, but there seems to be fossilised evidence to the contrary!
Quote from: Jim© on September 30, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 30, 2019, 06:17:30 AM
A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.
After we played a (southern?) semi v Wycombe in the Autoglass at home, I remember the programme the following game was asking if anyone had found a prosthetic leg that was lost whilst celebrating the Wycombe win in the away end. I always thought it was a wind up, but there seems to be fossilised evidence to the contrary!
lol.😁
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 30, 2019, 06:17:30 AM
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Quote from: _Putney_ on September 12, 2019, 10:23:19 AM
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Have they struck oil yet ?
Sorry No.
Items found So far and waiting to be claimed.
1 set of Dentures.
Return Train Ticket to Orpington,dated 25th March 1959
Packet of Tosh Chamberlain's Woodbines(Unopened)
Blue Trench Coat(with shopping list in pocket)
1/2lb of cheese
Jar of Blackcurrant Jam
Packet of Rich tea
Packet of Firelighters
1/4 lb of Dolly Mixtures.
1 Gold Watch engraved(To Rupert Sidebottom) champion roadsweeper of Putney 1937.
A false leg with a size 14 hobnail boot intact.
A diary belonging to Albert Munchings(5th of May 1937 highlighted in red ink(The day I murdered my cheating wife).
All of these items can be collected from the groundsman.
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You forgot to mention a Flamethrower, a full size orthopaedic Skeleton, a Ventriloquist Dummy, a Water Cannon, The Dead Sea Scrolls, the remains of A Barrow in Furness FC Football Banner.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGHI8-BXUAAjbZO?format=jpg&name=large)
I know its a very complex build but the stand is taking ages to come down. Was there a couple of weeks ago & hardly anything done since then . Didn't seem too much going on there when I went although it was a friday so it was probably POETS day for the builders
When you look at the picture from the hammy end, it shows how basic stands are really
Quote from: bobby01 on October 06, 2019, 04:17:27 PM
When you look at the picture from the hammy end, it shows how basic stands are really
Funny, that struck me looking at that picture. Admittedly, we Riversiders don't move around a great deal.
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications, it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
Thank you for the update, interesting.
Think we are not seeing rapid progress because all efforts are going into completing the 31 (?) piles being driven into the Thames to take the weight of the structure.
The thought of 31 piles is putting me off my tea!
Quote from: Riversider on October 06, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications, it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
Quote from: MJG on October 06, 2019, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 06, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications, it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.
Quote from: filham on October 06, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 06, 2019, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 06, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications, it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.
He could well be right. At Wimbledon and Queen's the hosts are surprised if a guest expresses a desire to watch the tennis.
Quote from: filham on October 06, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 06, 2019, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 06, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications, it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.
but also with a football ground only in use maybe 25 times a year the other 340 days bring in extra on that side.
Are boxes even that lucrative anyway? The average box must take up the space of about 50 seats.
Rupert and Tarquin think that muddied oafs are rather vulgar. How much better to watch the privileged sculling the afternoons away on the tide....
Some very interesting photos showing the extent of the preparation / work in progress. I was going to collect some such photos for historical posterity, but this saves me doing so.
If anyone is interested I have a collection of photographs of the old Thamesbank terrace being prepared and the new (now old) Riverside stand being erected which I can post on here (If I remember how to!) or if the Mods would prefer, on another new thread...
Quote from: bobby01 on October 06, 2019, 04:17:27 PM
When you look at the picture from the hammy end, it shows how basic stands are really
Sure does. And for that reason, I'd imagine July 2021 would be feasible for having the new seating used on matchdays, even if not all the lounges etc. within were fully-fiitted out for the first few weeks.
Even fewer of the facilities facing the river would be essential for Matchday 1.
Ideally everything is completely finished in time, but there is a lot that could overrun without preventing football in the meantime.
Quote from: LBNo11 on October 06, 2019, 09:46:13 PM
Some very interesting photos showing the extent of the preparation / work in progress. I was going to collect some such photos for historical posterity, but this saves me doing so.
If anyone is interested I have a collection of photographs of the old Thamesbank terrace being prepared and the new (now old) Riverside stand being erected which I can post on here (If I remember how to!) or if the Mods would prefer, on another new thread...
Yes would be interested to see that
Quote from: Statto on October 07, 2019, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: LBNo11 on October 06, 2019, 09:46:13 PM
Some very interesting photos showing the extent of the preparation / work in progress. I was going to collect some such photos for historical posterity, but this saves me doing so.
If anyone is interested I have a collection of photographs of the old Thamesbank terrace being prepared and the new (now old) Riverside stand being erected which I can post on here (If I remember how to!) or if the Mods would prefer, on another new thread...
Yes would be interested to see that
Agreed would be good to see. Was at the opening game against Benfica,(??) still have the ticket somewhere
In Saturdays programme Shad khan says the stand is expected to be completely demolished by the end of the year
Quote from: FFCAli on October 06, 2019, 06:55:06 PM
Quote from: filham on October 06, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 06, 2019, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 06, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me, looking at a picture of the new stand in the brochure they sent out with the season ticket applications, it struck me that there doesn't appear to be any pitch facing hospitality boxes going across the width of the stand, is that correct ?
Surely it's my mistake as that must be where all the big money is at any football ground.
its telling that there isn't and I'm led to believe that comes from Khan in his belief that the real money is made within and on the other side of the stand and he wanted seats instead of boxes facing the pitch.
He must think the toffs would rather sit and view the river than watch football.
He could well be right. At Wimbledon and Queen's the hosts are surprised if a guest expresses a desire to watch the tennis.
You're right.
in mid 1980's I worked with as company who specialized in corporate hospitality
We had a hospitality tent or facilities at all of the major sports events
It was amazing how many corporate guests stayed in the 'facility' sipping champagne and
showing no interest in what was going on.
I well remember when Charlie Passarell was playing Pancho Gonzalez in what was then the longest
match ever played and our clients guests guzzled the shampoo and ate the food with no interest in the game.
Our clients paid a fortune to be there and the business that was done underneath the TV sets in the tents
was amazing.
That was then .....................
Agreed would be good to see. Was at the opening game against Benfica,(??) still have the ticket somewhere
I was also privileged attend both first and last games in The Riverside.
Would love to see the construction pics from the late 60's.
If spared my ambition is to be at opening of The Khan Family Stand.
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Quote from: Fernhurst on October 08, 2019, 12:28:35 PM
Agreed would be good to see. Was at the opening game against Benfica,(??) still have the ticket somewhere
I was also privileged attend both first and last games in The Riverside.
Would love to see the construction pics from the late 60's.
If spared my ambition is to be at opening of The Khan Family Stand.
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All your pension & more I suspect!
All your pension & more I suspect!
I am started to save now Now Cowboy!!
Possibly my only visit to The New Riverside assuming there are tickets to be had!!
The prawn munchers and their clients from the city will love the new place.
No place for the coal man who used to attend straight off his round covered in coal dust, complete with leather skull cap and apron down his back.
Those were the days......if I can see it once I'll be happy.
I'm sure there will be a place for such a coal man Fernhurst, however, I do wonder where he would leave the horse & cart with current parking restrictions. Maybe the man who used to meander up & down Stevenage road selling bags of monkey nuts would hold onto the horse for him.
I would like to think when the new stand opensthey would offer an upgrade for season ticket holders to take in the experience.Would allow the seats the season ticket holders are relinquishing to be sold off.This is assuming we are back in the top flight.We have done this previously.
To compliment this thread I have put together a few vintage photos of the Riverside/Thamesbank before, and during the building of the Riverside stand now being demolished. The first photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace taken from the Putney end taken shortly after world war II. You can see the terrace being cleaned up after 5 years of nature taking over...
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I can see it LBNo11
Quote from: LBNo11 on October 08, 2019, 05:47:33 PM
It's been a while, can you confirm you can see this please?
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Reminds me a bit of Loftus Road.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on October 08, 2019, 06:28:40 PM
I can see it LBNo11
Saw us play at Halifax many years ago, it was much worse than this.
Blimey Fulham, surely we could afford more than three men to demolish & rebuilt?
Thank you for the pic Les.
This 2nd photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace taken from the Stevenage Road stand with the overgrown Hammersmith terrace on the right:- (https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72748172_10162636834570434_1576191669793980416_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQnWj2zDoxIIVC-QjH5rPvtsHTo6ShQZYrZrpi3eKnHk02HgdqaLA7NRltia9mRDJgU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=edae8bc4754d58e68b379e736af56ea2&oe=5E27A6FD)
...the third photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace, taken from teh Putney end, shortly after the clean up..:-
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71882612_10162636848855434_2627047773442146304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQmaGWDisQZb3H_06QdeMgCPX6mJFkP4vB7E9fVjrUSlP2OK-uo51LldrgUMC5k4Qxw&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=bda8644efe231e712a639e9786664361&oe=5E199CB7)
...this 4th photo is facing the Riverside, taken from the Stevenage Road stand, with the Hammersmith end tearrace on the right, shortly after the clean up
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71835687_10162636849405434_4525207397383274496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQkIUpIA7hoflAAGpzSAyC1Wi8OPJGkbn06_Q52H0QdGq5keVjalxH8DVr2crlPLrRI&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=e44021940a3169f24509ade0ecd9654c&oe=5E3D6E6F)
More to follow...
Impressed in the before after pictures,, good work by three fellas.
Thanks LB, love these sort of images. As said, those 3 fellas earned their corn. Probably players too (as was the way) doing an 8 hr shift after training.
Thanks for those old pictures, brought back early memories of when you could change ends at half time.
Loving these photos, thanks for sharing.
Funny how perspectives change as I mellow with age. As a young man I stood on a weed infested Putney End thinking the weeds were, well, a bit of an eyesore. These days I marvel at the speed with which nature can take over absolutely anything. This summer we pressure washed the front drive and re-sanded the gaps. Yep, those weeds are back already. It's probably fair to say that my mellow reaction to this isn't unanimously shared.
Probably not the right forum to canvas views on an embryonic campaign to replace the rose as our national flower with Network Rail Buddleia.
That third rail back on the corner of the Putney end had my fingerprints.
From Robert Wood on Twitter @robertW1948
1971/72 programmes gave updates on the New Stand and an explanation that the £250,000 cost wouldn't stop our spending on players
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Loving these, keep them coming.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on October 09, 2019, 07:06:03 PM
From Robert Wood on Twitter @robertW1948
1971/72 programmes gave updates on the New Stand and an explanation that the £250,000 cost wouldn't stop our spending on players
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF935XoAAQA4U?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF-n8WsAE9H53?format=jpg&name=small)
These are in fact the next ones I was going toshow, will still do so as they are slightly larger...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHpJ2fsXUAAC0jN.jpg)
Didn't look like much progress on the demolition last night, but the amount of barges and kit in the river is pretty impressive.
Where's our flag waiver?
I expected the demolition work to be further advanced by now, is the job on programme or has there been slippage already.
Seems so odd seeing the Riverside undressed like this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH-aD3AWkAYCyrs?format=jpg&name=small)
I don't know much about piling but it's impressive!
Quote from: filham on October 24, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
I expected the demolition work to be further advanced by now, is the job on programme or has there been slippage already.
Why would you think that??
Interesting to see LB11 photo with one mess hut in the corner of the ground not a crane in sight. Health and safety has come a long way since then. I don't remember an overlap in the park. There may have been but I was only young and didn't go that way
anymore up to date photos?
Quote from: LBNo11 on October 09, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on October 09, 2019, 07:06:03 PM
From Robert Wood on Twitter @robertW1948
1971/72 programmes gave updates on the New Stand and an explanation that the £250,000 cost wouldn't stop our spending on players
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF935XoAAQA4U?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdF-n8WsAE9H53?format=jpg&name=small)
These are in fact the next ones I was going toshow, will still do so as they are slightly larger...
I remember this. It was said that the £250,000 had to be spent then or the cost would rocket and become unaffordable. We were compared to Pompey who instead splashed an equivalent sum on players - they went one way and we the other.
But that was a long time ago before the days of billionaire owners.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJLK26zWkAEBD59?format=jpg&name=small)
Significant progress made over the past few weeks! #riverside #FFC
Hope the groundsmen has more than one mower!
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?
Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on November 12, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?
Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?
Can't just bash it down, this would result in millions of bits of sharp and dangerous concrete debris getting onto the pitch. Has to be carefully dismantled.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on November 12, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?
Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?
LOL, you can't just demolish it. Makes me laugh how fans think CC is just a building site! The only access is by boat, one tide per day, so it has to be dismantled bit by bit, stored on the very small section of plot, then shipped out, whilst everyone continues to work.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on November 12, 2019, 07:23:01 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on November 12, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
They seem to be dismantling it bit by bit rather than just demolishing it?
Are they looking to recycle parts of the stand elsewhere?
LOL, you can't just demolish it. Makes me laugh how fans think CC is just a building site! The only access is by boat, one tide per day, so it has to be dismantled bit by bit, stored on the very small section of plot, then shipped out, whilst everyone continues to work.
I think we're going need a bigger boat
In Bishop's Park looking at all that remains of the Riverside Stand, from Robert Wood
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 14, 2019, 08:04:25 PM
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Reminds me of the old 4th division days, heading downwards to 92nd place & out of the league
Well done MAF & Mickey Adams for the turnaround upwards!
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 14, 2019, 08:04:25 PM
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Sheer vandalism !
:005:
On second thoughts, the picture is obviously fake. I mean, when did we last have a blue sky and sunshine ?
Sure that aint a 'photo of it being built?
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It just needs a few finishing touches.
There's a really interesting timeline of the schedule of works on the official website if anybody savvy knows how to post the link.
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJaGMXfXkAAZs3W?format=jpg&name=small)
Now begins to look as if progress is being made .
I would suggest it is the beginning of the final ending of the Riverside Stand which has seen some bad times and some very good times.
The worst coming close to relegation from the bottom division. The best Dempsey's winner against Juventus.
Where will the dugouts go when they take the middle bit down? Will they stay under a temporary cover or move over the the JH stand or will that involve building work.
Riverside Works Update
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The phased demolition of the Riverside Stand reached its final stages on Friday afternoon.
The final piece of the roof was removed at 14:40 this afternoon, quickly followed by the last pieces of the shell of the stand, demolished at 15:00.
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/2019/dsc_2272.JPG?w=622&h=278)
The process was aided by water dust suppression, which captures any dust particles released during the demolition.
All that remained as the night closed in was the roof support truss, which will be removed on Saturday the 16th November.
Link to the video here https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/november/15/riverside-works-update
The Club should be applauded for doing a first class job in keeping us all up to date on the progress,
Well done to all involved 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It going to chilly on Friday night unless it rains as it always seems to these days.
It's now starting to resemble Loftus Road.
Quote from: SP on November 16, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
It's now starting to resemble Loftus Road.
:005:
Quite sad seeing the old lump go down, isn't it?
Going to be weird coming to the Cottage and not seeing the Riverside stand. Also not looking forward to the cold that everyone keeps describing.
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on November 16, 2019, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: SP on November 16, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
It's now starting to resemble Loftus Road.
:005:
Quite sad seeing the old lump go down, isn't it?
Definitely mixed emotions for me. I want us to continue building & growing but I'll miss looking across to the seats my parents occupied for so many years.
Quote from: love4ffc on November 16, 2019, 12:23:44 PM
Going to be weird coming to the Cottage and not seeing the Riverside stand. Also not looking forward to the cold that everyone keeps describing.
I've just checked the forecast & it's predicting showers with temperatures above freezing fortunately.
Quote from: SP on November 16, 2019, 12:51:23 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on November 16, 2019, 12:23:44 PM
Going to be weird coming to the Cottage and not seeing the Riverside stand. Also not looking forward to the cold that everyone keeps describing.
I've just checked the forecast & it's predicting showers with temperatures above freezing fortunately.
oh goodie :003:
Well we wont see the sun set behind that stand anymore but Rodak may need to wear his cap for longer on a Saturday afternoon.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 05:50:13 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJaGMXfXkAAZs3W?format=jpg&name=small)
I think this is a beautiful picture, I congratulate whoever took it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_9eBRXsAAMLsI?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 22, 2019, 07:09:29 PM
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Yes it is a beautiful picture.
Someone stated it's now possible to see the brick foundations of the original terracing that was underneath the Riverside Stand. Can anyone confirm this?
Below is a photo of the remaining Thamesbank foundations prior to the building of the recently demolished Riverside stand.
The original banking of the terracing was made up using the excavation materiel from the Shepherd's Bush underground building program in 1896-7. When Archibald Leitch built the Stevenage Road stand in 1905, the existing banked terracing around the remainder of the ground were concrete terraced and fitted with his soon to be patented crash barriers.
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Quote from: SP on November 23, 2019, 10:34:03 AM
Someone stated it's now possible to see the brick foundations of the original terracing that was underneath the Riverside Stand. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes I am hoping that Half a Crown I dropped on the terrace in our last game there before the construction is still there, I will recognise it as it will be a 1946 date.
Quote from: LBNo11 on October 08, 2019, 09:45:49 PM
...the third photo is of the Riverside/Thamesbank terrace, taken from teh Putney end, shortly after the clean up..:-
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71882612_10162636848855434_2627047773442146304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQmaGWDisQZb3H_06QdeMgCPX6mJFkP4vB7E9fVjrUSlP2OK-uo51LldrgUMC5k4Qxw&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=bda8644efe231e712a639e9786664361&oe=5E199CB7)
That actually looks better than some of the grounds we played away at early 90,s..
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#CravenCottageConcepts Riverside Stand history.
Before the Riverside stand was built in 1972 there had been two previous proposals to build a stand on the Thamesbank. The first, in 1935 was designed by Archibald Leitch's son Archibald Kent Leitch and was designed to hold 6,000 fans for a cost of £11,000, however, the sum back in those days was a large amount that the club could not afford.
The second proposal, in 1950, was also based on a design by Archibald's son was for a two tier stand to hold 4,000 fans under cover; by then the cost had risen to £40,000 and again the amount was more than the board, headed by chairman Charles Bradlaugh Dean, could afford. Below is a page from the programme dated 23rd August 1950 (Vs Charlton) announcing the proposed new stand... (https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77263197_10162879744430434_8497084412742074368_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ohc=kRYHm_llqr0AQl4qed0km5jyid16HZESj-QgcZNaRnEOSd3u9HgozyTTg&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=42fe6b71a185dce6cd38a1a4faf5f3dc&oe=5E8CAE63)
As I remember it the terracing was stepped earth held in place with timber battens, the luxury of concrete terraces around the ground did not appear until after the 1949 promotion.
Quote from: filham on November 24, 2019, 05:41:31 PM
As I remember it the terracing was stepped earth held in place with timber battens, the luxury of concrete terraces around the ground did not appear until after the 1949 promotion.
as can be seen by the previous photos just after the war, there was concrete terracing. But I was not around in 1949 to dispute what you say...
Quote from: LBNo11 on November 24, 2019, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: filham on November 24, 2019, 05:41:31 PM
As I remember it the terracing was stepped earth held in place with timber battens, the luxury of concrete terraces around the ground did not appear until after the 1949 promotion.
as can be seen by the previous photos just after the war, there was concrete terracing. But I was not around in 1949 to dispute what you say...
We cannot be sure of the date of the photo it could have been 1950 or a little later.
The terracing in the colour pic of the thamesbank seems to look wider or deeper than the riverside was or is. Is the touchline still inline with the same part of the hammersmith end?
Congrats to all for this brilliant nostalgic thread - has anyone got a pic of the electronic scoreboard mid 1960s? I remember Charlton v Boro (I think) flashing up 6-5 at half time. Typically Fulhamish we said as all laughed . But it was accurate - the game finished 7-7!
Wasn't as cold as I thought it would be on Friday. Could have been my seventeen layers though
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 24, 2019, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: SP on November 23, 2019, 10:34:03 AM
Someone stated it's now possible to see the brick foundations of the original terracing that was underneath the Riverside Stand. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes I am hoping that Half a Crown I dropped on the terrace in our last game there before the construction is still there, I will recognise it as it will be a 1946 date.
I think that half crown may be classed as Treasure Trove so you should dismiss any thoughts of self benefit from such a find.
You MUST check out the video on fulhampier.com , oh my days, this is incredible.
Quote from: Riversider on November 26, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
You MUST check out the video on fulhampier.com , oh my days, this is incredible.
Is there a view of the pitch included?
Actually, is there still a pitch at all?
Nothing new really. Don't mind if it's multi functional during off match days, as long as they retain the football feel for match days
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on November 25, 2019, 01:57:05 PM
Wasn't as cold as I thought it would be on Friday. Could have been my seventeen layers though
Maybe our 2nd goal was a factor?
Chairman Provides Riverside Stand Update
The Chairman reveals an exciting new project - Fulham Pier.
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Welcome to Craven Cottage for not only an important match under the floodlights against Derby County, but also for a latest look at the almost complete disappearance of the Riverside Stand.
As you can see now, the only structures remaining of note are the temporary gantry for television and broadcasting, and the dugouts at pitchside. You'll probably feel somewhat of a chill from the Thames that was once blocked by the old Riverside Stand and one thing is for certain – everyone at Fulham Football Club appreciates your patience and support during this period of transition, occasional hardship and anticipation of what awaits all of us in the summer of 2021.
And, what you can expect in 2021 is what Fulham supporters, the neighbourhood and all of London have waited for and unquestionably deserve – nothing less than a signature destination befitting our world-class city. For this edition of my programme notes, I want to share my thoughts on the Riverside Stand project and particularly focus on the concept of destination, which was my vision from the moment I was privileged to become your chairman in July 2013.
With that, I am very proud to announce London's next great destination – Fulham Pier.
An explanation is in order. Yes, there will be a new Riverside Stand, of course, one that will deliver additional capacity to our beloved home ground. Financial sustainability is critical in football, and especially so for a small but mighty club like ours. The new Riverside Stand will represent a major stride forward in ensuring that Fulham will operate successfully and properly, right here at Craven Cottage where it has since 1896 and for generations to come.
The magnificent new Riverside Stand will sit within Fulham Pier, which will be a year-round destination for everyone – football fans, Londoners and visitors to our neighbourhood from near and far. Never has this stretch of the Thames been brought to life, and its full potential realised, until Fulham Pier.
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In April of 2014, I shared news in a letter to Season Ticket Holders that the Board of the Port of London Authority granted your Club a river works license that permitted us to move forward on the project I am describing today. That was an important accomplishment, but just one of many required to see this journey through. And, along the way, we have been unapologetically patient to ensure that the design and purpose of a new Riverside Stand met the very highest standards as we know them today but would also stand the test of time – just as Craven Cottage itself. The by-product of this deliberate process is Fulham Pier and, with the new Riverside Stand as its centrepiece, I am overjoyed at what the future holds for all of us.
I am confident that Fulham Pier will be everything that everyone had asked or hoped for, and much more. And it may be difficult to see it now, but the future is becoming reality with each day that passes. The piling in the river bed has now commenced in order to create a wooden boardwalk. This will be open to all on non-matchdays, providing a picturesque and uninterrupted stroll along the river for the first time ever. It will be here that you, your friends and family will find places to eat, drink, meet, exercise, learn new activities, take in special events or simply enjoy the waterfront. I envision a vibe that will blend nostalgia with contemporary, always alive, and always respectful of the Club, neighbourhood and city.
To fully appreciate what is in store, I encourage you to visit www.fulhampier.com where you will find a video and numerous renderings that will touch on everything Fulham Pier will embody and offer well beyond Fulham match days. In fact, the very essence of Fulham Pier is to be a unique destination every day of the year – mornings, afternoons and evenings – that will further enhance and complement what has long been a spectacular London neighbourhood where Craven Cottage has been shaped in part over the years every bit by the historic and beautiful parkland to the south, just as it has by the River Thames to the west.
A reinvented and reimagined destination, and a new way of life, will be here soon at the home of Fulham Football Club. You can be certain that we will have frequent updates throughout 2020 and into 2021, and at all times we welcome your questions or comments related to the project or your Club.
Now, back to football! Congrats to Aboubakar Kamara for his role on Friday night in a massive win for us against Queens Park Rangers, and to all of his teammates who were every bit as important in showing the resiliency and commitment to our game that will be essential in our promotion mission. We now have the opportunity tonight to win three straight games for only the second time this campaign, and this wouldn't have been possible without our strong response midway through the first half that carried us through the balance of the match. Well done, everyone!
To all visiting fans from Derby, welcome back to Craven Cottage and thank you for making Fulham a road destination in support of the Rams. And to everyone who supports Fulham, thank you as always for your loyalty here at Craven Cottage and on the road as well. We are continually impressed and always grateful!
Thanks for reading. Come on, Fulham!
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Anyone fancy watching the game in their post steam dressing gown with a bovril facial and steak and kidney pie smoothie.
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Positioned along the Thames and nestled by parkland, we're bringing to life this pocket of South West London by creating a unique destination that'll be open morning, noon and night.
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So whether you start your day with sunrise yoga; pop in for a flat white in between meetings; make space for mindfulness in your lunch break or try a pizza class with the kids; take the whole family to the rooftop pool or make a date with a glass of bubbles, there's something for everyone.
So please bear with us, because we can't wait to invite you all as soon as we're open.
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Well that all looks rather fancy.
As an away fan though, it looks like we won't be able to wave to the people on the pleasure boats on the Thames any more.
Pity.
I'm in
When I saw the word Savour in the title of the new web page I misread the word Pier as Pies. Oh well.
Any recent photos?
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Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
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That's a magnificent photo.
they set up that webcam yet?
What is the point. Most of us can wait between games for an update. It is not going to move that quickly. My be in the summer it might be nice
Quote from: Andy S on January 14, 2020, 04:07:01 PM
What is the point. Most of us can wait between games for an update. It is not going to move that quickly. My be in the summer it might be nice
Because it provides an interesting insight for those with an interest in construction projects.
Slow in the build up? Both on and off the pitch then...?
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
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That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
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That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
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That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope the club have of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
am I going crazy or didn't we have an asbestos roof until maf did his refurb
Quote from: fulhamben on January 15, 2020, 06:35:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
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That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
am I going crazy or didn't we have an asbestos roof until maf did his refurb
It may well have been but I would expect that is had to be done using materials of a similar design
It was also refurbished about 3 or 4 years ago
In each instance it would have to have been done in consultation with English Heritage
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 15, 2020, 06:35:40 PM
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)
That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
am I going crazy or didn't we have an asbestos roof until maf did his refurb
It may well have been but I would expect that is had to be done using materials of a similar design
It was also refurbished about 3 or 4 years ago
In each instance it would have to have been done in consultation with English Heritage
and also I'm sure I read somewhere that it was just the wall that is listed
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Quote from: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 03:11:48 PM
Just thinking that yesterday.
This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update
Fernhurst, will be a bit different from my long gone dad clambering along the Thames before climbing in over the wall to see a game......
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Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)
That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
Planning permission was granted in 2001 for demolition of most of the stand (the facade would have remained), so a precedent is there for alterations.
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 17, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Not for me....it may be cramped and outdated, but it is unique, and is characteristic that the Cottage's main function now is to house the dressing rooms, and be the place where the team emerges from. If it loses that function, it will lose some of it's relevance going forward.
Quote from: Chesh on January 17, 2020, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 17, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Not for me....it may be cramped and outdated, but it is unique, and is characteristic that the Cottage's main function now is to house the dressing rooms, and be the place where the team emerges from. If it loses that function, it will lose some of it's relevance going forward.
:plus one: also the likes of Alec Ferguson and big teams don't like it, so they are uncomfortable which is a good thing imo.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on January 17, 2020, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Chesh on January 17, 2020, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 17, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
Not for me....it may be cramped and outdated, but it is unique, and is characteristic that the Cottage's main function now is to house the dressing rooms, and be the place where the team emerges from. If it loses that function, it will lose some of it's relevance going forward.
:plus one: also the likes of Alec Ferguson and big teams don't like it, so they are uncomfortable which is a good thing imo.
Anything that makes lives difficult for opponents is a plus for me, if it gives us another edge even a minor one it contributes. If I had my way I would give opponents cold showers, no electricity and flat warm up balls.
Quote from: bog on January 17, 2020, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 03:11:48 PM
Just thinking that yesterday.
This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update
Fernhurst, will be a bit different from my long gone dad clambering along the Thames before climbing in over the wall to see a game......
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Bog, my old man told me stories of waiting so patiently on the step of "The Worlds End" pub for his Dad to come out and give him a penny to go to the football. Him and his mate would then run all the way to The Cottage, but, instead of spending on entrance fee would climb a tree in Bishops Park and inch out before swinging down and dropping into the Putney end gents toilets, much to the annoyance of the users of the convenience.
What times they were, I'm guessing that would have been about 1913!!
"What times they were, I'm guessing that would have been about 1913"
Would that of been a midweek game? :003:
Quote from: Fernhurst on January 17, 2020, 02:04:49 PM
Quote from: bog on January 17, 2020, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 03:11:48 PM
Just thinking that yesterday.
This is terrific, diggers and stuff and men beavering away.
I will visit every time there is an update
Fernhurst, will be a bit different from my long gone dad clambering along the Thames before climbing in over the wall to see a game......
092.gif
Bog, my old man told me stories of waiting so patiently on the step of "The Worlds End" pub for his Dad to come out and give him a penny to go to the football. Him and his mate would then run all the way to The Cottage, but, instead of spending on entrance fee would climb a tree in Bishops Park and inch out before swinging down and dropping into the Putney end gents toilets, much to the annoyance of the users of the convenience.
What times they were, I'm guessing that would have been about 1913!!
My dad told me he also used to do this too, would have been in the 50's though
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 17, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
Couldn't agree more.
+1
Not sure if this has been asked and answered yet but,
does anyone know if the pitch will increase in width when the new stand is finished?
Quote from: MJG on January 17, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
Are the changing rooms and tunnel going to be in the new stand or will they still remain in the cottage?
In the Cottage.....a mistake in my view.
There's a bit of room to reconfigure inside the Cottage, e.g. the treatment room. Would the planning laws allow internal alterations?
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)
That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
I thought it was only the Stevenage Road facade that was listed.
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Quote from: Vinnieffc on February 05, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/D91Xmks/20191229-164018.jpg)
That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
I thought it was only the Stevenage Road facade that was listed.
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The actual stand in its entirety, together with the Cottage were listed in 1987.
However, planning permission was granted in 2001 to demolish all of the stand bar the facade and also to demolish the Cottage. Therefore, there is a precedent should alterations want to be made to the JHS.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Quote from: Penfold on February 05, 2020, 02:49:08 PM
Quote from: Vinnieffc on February 05, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: Roberty on January 15, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Neil D on January 15, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 30, 2019, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on December 29, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
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That's a magnificent photo.
It is and it's also a reminder about how rubbish the JH stand is. Surely the technology exists to support a corrugated iron roof without the use of restricted view supports?
It's been a Listed Building since 1987 - doing anything to it needs planning and listed building consent
The clubs best hope of doing anything would be health and safety - but until then it has to remain as it is
I thought it was only the Stevenage Road facade that was listed.
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The actual stand in its entirety, together with the Cottage were listed in 1987.
However, planning permission was granted in 2001 to demolish all of the stand bar the facade and also to demolish the Cottage. Therefore, there is a precedent should alterations want to be made to the JHS.
Ah okay, cheers [emoji4]
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Quote from: love4ffc on February 04, 2020, 07:10:41 PM
Not sure if this has been asked and answered yet but,
does anyone know if the pitch will increase in width when the new stand is finished?
I don't imagine so.
Quote from: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
Only in relation to that document, still on track with their opening date.
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
The UK is lazy
Bound to be late - I've only ever seen one builder on site, and he seems to prefer a flag to a shovel....
I'm not sure the mild winter will have helped - it's been very wet so they'll have been pumping out all the time.
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂
Must be climate change ,inclusion,homophobia etc.
Quote from: gang on February 05, 2020, 03:16:36 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on February 04, 2020, 07:10:41 PM
Not sure if this has been asked and answered yet but,
does anyone know if the pitch will increase in width when the new stand is finished?
I don't imagine so.
Think we already have max width as it is, so very much doubt it.
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Quote from: mancwhite on February 05, 2020, 04:24:20 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂
Trust me you really don't want that.. the standards and type of job that will be achieved in a 10 day period will be extremely basic.
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.
May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...
Quote from: General on February 05, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.
May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...
Decided not to be lazy - quoted at around £80 mill - although these things tend to go over budget, with a full capacity of 29,600 expected.. current capacity 25,700. - only 3,900 extra seats, although with a new stand.
If we went off the maths of 3,900 x £40 (conservative cost) and 19 home games a season (based on a premiership fixture level only), it'd see revenue increase by £2,964,000 a year. So it'd take 27 years to recoup on that basic level.
Quote from: General on February 05, 2020, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: General on February 05, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.
May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...
Decided not to be lazy - quoted at around £80 mill - although these things tend to go over budget, with a full capacity of 29,600 expected.. current capacity 25,700. - only 3,900 extra seats, although with a new stand.
If we went off the maths of 3,900 x £40 (conservative cost) and 19 home games a season (based on a premiership fixture level only), it'd see revenue increase by £2,964,000 a year. So it'd take 27 years to recoup on that basic level.
Factor in the rent from retail units plus however much they make from the premium food/drink vendors they're going to put in there, plus what I think would also be a normal functioning restaurant based on the survey they did for it.
If you are calculating covering costs you should include the potential of the restaurant gym and other facilities to be included in the new stand plus the apartments which must be there for the financial benefit of the club.
Oops sorry Modified - obviously like minds with that immediately above.
Quote from: General on February 05, 2020, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: General on February 05, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
Out of interest - does anyone know what the extra capacity will bring in (if full) per season on an average ticket price for the stand prior to demolition (I'm assuming to recoup costs and for 'the privilege' prices will go up, not looking for a scientific figure) and how much the stand is supposedly going to cost? Wondering how long it'd take to recoup costs and make a profit. Assuming also that retail spaces and restaurant/living spaces and meeting rooms will add extra revenue, but harder to predict so leaving it out.
May have been noted before but 17 pages is a lot to sift through...
Decided not to be lazy - quoted at around £80 mill - although these things tend to go over budget, with a full capacity of 29,600 expected.. current capacity 25,700. - only 3,900 extra seats, although with a new stand.
If we went off the maths of 3,900 x £40 (conservative cost) and 19 home games a season (based on a premiership fixture level only), it'd see revenue increase by £2,964,000 a year. So it'd take 27 years to recoup on that basic level.
You are not factoring in the extra sponsorship a club with "premium seating" gets vs club with only "standard seating". In addition, the stand is built with money from investment from Mr Khan that doesn't count towards FFP, but the revenue raised from gate receipts is included in FFP, so we can spend an extra £2,964,000 (using your numbers) on players, that is hopefully enough to finish one place higher per season (e.g. 2nd in Championship vs 3rd Championship) or (17th in Premier League vs 18th in Premier League). Finishing one place higher affects TV money and that affect the position for the next season too. One place higher each season over 10 years get us to around 13th in the Premier League, instead of 3rd in the Championship.
Quote from: mancwhite on February 05, 2020, 04:24:20 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂
Have you seen those videos of Chinese blocks of flats collapsing with people inside? lol
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on February 06, 2020, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: mancwhite on February 05, 2020, 04:24:20 PM
Should have got the Chinese into to build it - the way they got that hospital up and running we would be sitting in it now 😂
Have you seen those videos of Chinese blocks of flats collapsing with people inside? lol
I remember some years ago, the Chinese thought they would add a subterranean level below an existing high rise apartment building. Guess what? In no time the high rise become a single story, laying on it's side.
Quote from: fulhamross on February 05, 2020, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
The UK is lazy
Thanks for that enlightening observation.
Quote from: Twig on February 06, 2020, 08:08:15 PM
Quote from: fulhamross on February 05, 2020, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
The UK is lazy
Thanks for that enlightening observation.
We have waited 20 years for the Riverside to be rebuilt another 2 months is nothing.
Quote from: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
I met with one of the hospitality team last week as they came out to our office regarding next years renewal. From what I understand, the new steel construction taking place on the river side of the Putney End will be additional club VIP entertainment places. The police and medical facilities are being built into the new stand.
Quote from: fulhamross on February 05, 2020, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 05, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 05, 2020, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Worth bringing this to the top again as a refresher for everyone , it's only two months from now that all being well we start to see the frame of the new stand rising from the ground,
I must say also, what a winter we chose to build this stand, I bet everybody involved can't believe their luck , they must have factored in to lose some days due to the weather during January and February, well no such need this year, I'll be surprised if the work is behind schedule at this stage, well I hope not anyway.
My last conversation with club staff two weeks ago said that it was maybe going to be neaer the second half of the year that they reach that point of seeing the frame go up. Still a lot of prep work to do and the basement they are digging out is massive. The frame you can see at the Putney end is for Police/medical rooms.
Then that would suggest they are already two months behind the schedule, would be very surprised if that was the case
The UK is lazy
You obviously don't live here.
You can see where the pylons have gone in now, and the concrete base laid across the top, forming the pier.
(https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/gallery/361443_06_03_20_8_37_11.jpeg)
(https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/gallery/361443_06_03_20_8_37_51.jpeg)
One positive thing that may come from this awful virus is that we must at least be on schedule with the redevelopment - surely we have a chance here to get ahead and maybe open the stand earlier than first estimated – there will be extra hours and days in the coming weeks that we are available to proceed with the building works (unless the workforce is not available)
Anyone been past the Taj? Much activity on site?
Not sure if this has already been posted?
Where are the Flag Poles going to be located ?
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on March 29, 2020, 11:46:04 AM
Where are the Flag Poles going to be located ?
And all the letters for the half time results!
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on March 29, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
That will be great on commentary. " Fulham will be attacking one of the just about adequate stands in the first half and in the interest of symmetry defending the other barely adequate one. First corner of the game already. Hector to take it in front of the relic stand.......... and there it goes straight into the state of the art stand where those that can afford it go for a nap"
Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on March 29, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Agreed
Quote from: Twig on March 29, 2020, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on March 29, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Agreed
Yes our ground has culture and character and history and is picturesque. A lot of these modern bowls who lack what Craven Cottage has in abundance now, will look even worse when in the future they will end up a wasteland of White Elephants, half empty soulless stadiums who sold their soul to the culture of greed and ego polishing.
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Relic? I think you mean iconic.
I don't like it but I'll be glad when it's built as it will show commitment.
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.
Disasters pass. Of course we will.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on March 29, 2020, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on March 29, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
I'm hugely impressed thing is nothing stays the same. When I started going in the late 1950s there were no stands apart from Stevenage Road. I don't think Hammy End or Putney are works of art. And if SK wants to integrate them with this style that's fine - life moves on....once we keep the cottage!
That will be great on commentary. " Fulham will be attacking one of the just about adequate stands in the first half and in the interest of symmetry defending the other barely adequate one. First corner of the game already. Hector to take it in front of the relic stand.......... and there it goes straight into the state of the art stand where those that can afford it go for a nap"
Brilliant, isnt it , far preferable to a shiny new boring plastic bowl
Quote from: f321ffc on March 29, 2020, 02:51:20 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 29, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: SP on March 29, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8j0K_uYkw
Hmmm. One state of the art stand, two just about adequate and one relic.
Relic? I think you mean iconic.
👍👍
Quote from: filham on March 29, 2020, 10:21:11 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.
I doubt it'll ever be full of fans due to the number of corporates to be housed there?
Quote from: SP on March 30, 2020, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: filham on March 29, 2020, 10:21:11 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.
I doubt it'll ever be full of fans due to the number of corporates to be housed there?
Maybe a lot of those corporates are Fulham fans.
Quote from: alfie on March 30, 2020, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: SP on March 30, 2020, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: filham on March 29, 2020, 10:21:11 PM
We all wonder now how coronavirus will effect our dream stand, will we ever see it full of fans.
I doubt it'll ever be full of fans due to the number of corporates to be housed there?
Maybe a lot of those corporates are Fulham fans.
If any of them were not Fulham fans then a big match experience by the river in the comfort of a modern stand is not a bad way to convert them.
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
Quote from: Riversider on March 31, 2020, 02:31:15 AM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
I imagine all work has stopped.
Quote from: filham on March 31, 2020, 11:06:20 AM
Quote from: Riversider on March 31, 2020, 02:31:15 AM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
I imagine all work has stopped.
Large construction sites near me remain active
Quote from: Riversider on March 31, 2020, 02:31:15 AM
Does anybody on here live locally to the ground , and can pop along and take a picture updating any work in progress.
I live 2 min walk, unfortunately having COPD I am in prison for the foreseeable future or the end of my life whatever comes first, but I am sure there is nothing going on.
Having a studio built in the back garden and have just had to fill in a form so the fella doing the patio can show it to the police in case he gets stopped in his Van.This is down in Whitstable.Good as far as I'm concerned.
I have a contact who is working at the ground in a portakabin on the surveying and architecture side and she has told me that work is still continuing.
Heard that the steel frame of the stand is going up or has started?
I have a photo from inside the ground showing work being done, don't know how to load it but the pitch looks in excellent condition.
Quote from: gang on April 10, 2020, 02:53:56 PM
I have a photo from inside the ground showing work being done, don't know how to load it but the pitch looks in excellent condition.
ah would've been nice to see, does it include the steel frame structure?
Quote from: fcfulham55 on April 10, 2020, 07:38:04 PM
Quote from: gang on April 10, 2020, 02:53:56 PM
I have a photo from inside the ground showing work being done, don't know how to load it but the pitch looks in excellent condition.
ah would've been nice to see, does it include the steel frame structure?
It would be nice to see that picture if it shows the steel structure as that would be a good indication of progress.
It shows scaffolding, end of the steel frame and 3 workemen. If you let me know how to I would gladly put the picture on. It is from where the TV cameras will be Putney end in from the corner.
I have tried copy and paste but it didn't work.
Quote from: gang on April 11, 2020, 02:01:37 PM
It shows scaffolding, end of the steel frame and 3 workemen. If you let me know how to I would gladly put the picture on. It is from where the TV cameras will be Putney end in from the corner.
I have tried copy and paste but it didn't work.
The video on the previous page is brilliant & the new stand is very attractive given the horrible Lego world we live in. The problem now is it puts the Hammy & Putney ends to shame. Does anyone know if SK has plans to integrate the other stands into this new style?
A video was posted on Twitter today and there certainly wasn't any evidence of the steel frame starting to go up.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVV-4_8XYAUUUpT?format=jpg&name=small)
Do we need Felix back to project manage?
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Quote from: Riversider on April 15, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Nothing personal, but, the FST and especially Fulhamish, don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Riverside development, more so Fulhamish.
I'd imagine the FST get a bit more info, but, all Fulhamish do, is copy, tweet and repeat.
As the construction industry is continuing to work through the Virus and with less traffic on the roads I would expect good progress to have been made on the stand. Also recent weather has been favourable and the wok has not been inhibited by matches at the ground.
Latest info that I have is:-
Still piling.
Taking down the tv gantry and the hoarding to allow access from both sides.
I have a photo but it just shows the pitch which looks immaculate.
Quote from: gang on April 15, 2020, 07:22:05 PM
Latest info that I have is:-
Still piling.
Taking down the tv gantry and the hoarding to allow access from both sides.
I have a photo but it just shows the pitch which looks immaculate.
I've seen a few pics, it looks like they might be getting ready to excavate the basement out
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 15, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 15, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Nothing personal, but, the FST and especially Fulhamish, don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Riverside development, more so Fulhamish.
I'd imagine the FST get a bit more info, but, all Fulhamish do, is copy, tweet and repeat.
Nothing personal, but you are talking out of your a**e !
Tom Greatrex , Chair of The F.S.T was interviewed on the Podcast, and I would take what he says over what you say every time,
Can I also add you come across as very bitter, are you ok ?
Quote from: Riversider on April 16, 2020, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 15, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 15, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Nothing personal, but, the FST and especially Fulhamish, don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Riverside development, more so Fulhamish.
I'd imagine the FST get a bit more info, but, all Fulhamish do, is copy, tweet and repeat.
Nothing personal, but you are talking out of your a**e !
Tom Greatrex , Chair of The F.S.T was interviewed on the Podcast, and I would take what he says over what you say every time,
Can I also add you come across as very bitter, are you ok ?
Not bitter at all, the FST are just puppets to the Club, told what they want here, and they relay it to the fans, Tom whatever his name is no different.
I've see / received more info about the Riverside development from other fans, or, people involved directly with it, than I have the FST, so, hardly talking out my arse!
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 16, 2020, 01:23:31 AM
Quote from: Riversider on April 16, 2020, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 15, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 15, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Nothing personal, but, the FST and especially Fulhamish, don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Riverside development, more so Fulhamish.
I'd imagine the FST get a bit more info, but, all Fulhamish do, is copy, tweet and repeat.
Nothing personal, but you are talking out of your a**e !
Tom Greatrex , Chair of The F.S.T was interviewed on the Podcast, and I would take what he says over what you say every time,
Can I also add you come across as very bitter, are you ok ?
Not bitter at all, the FST are just puppets to the Club, told what they want here, and they relay it to the fans, Tom whatever his name is no different.
I've see / received more info about the Riverside development from other fans, or, people involved directly with it, than I have the FST, so, hardly talking out my arse!
Of course you have 😩
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 16, 2020, 01:23:31 AM
Quote from: Riversider on April 16, 2020, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 15, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 15, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Nothing personal, but, the FST and especially Fulhamish, don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Riverside development, more so Fulhamish.
I'd imagine the FST get a bit more info, but, all Fulhamish do, is copy, tweet and repeat.
Nothing personal, but you are talking out of your a**e !
Tom Greatrex , Chair of The F.S.T was interviewed on the Podcast, and I would take what he says over what you say every time,
Can I also add you come across as very bitter, are you ok ?
Not bitter at all, the FST are just puppets to the Club, told what they want here, and they relay it to the fans, Tom whatever his name is no different.
I've see / received more info about the Riverside development from other fans, or, people involved directly with it, than I have the FST, so, hardly talking out my arse!
Not picking an argument here, but how do you know what someone else has received? You may well have received lots and more than most, but unless you can categorically say that you know every source of every piece of information anyone else has received that is simply an inaccurate statement. Even if you're working on the project that isn't necessarily true either.
Please stop sniping at one another ladies, as the ultimate outcome is the thread being locked.
Since this thread has started it's been a place of hope and excitement.
The rest of us are only interested in seeing the progress.
:plus one:
Quote from: Fernhurst on April 16, 2020, 10:25:55 AM
P lease stop sniping at one another ladies, as the ultimate outcome is the thread being locked.
Since this thread has started it's been a place of hope and excitement.
The rest of us are only interested in seeing the progress.
Now you gone and done it bringing gender into it.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 15, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 15, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
According to The Fulhamish Podcast and The F.S.T today, work is still progressing on the new stand and it's still hoped that the stand will be completed on time, though Covid-19 might have some future impact when it comes to getting materials and parts,
So some relative good news at a time when good news is in relative short supply.
Nothing personal, but, the FST and especially Fulhamish, don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Riverside development, more so Fulhamish.
I'd imagine the FST get a bit more info, but, all Fulhamish do, is copy, tweet and repeat.
I don't recall meeting you at any of the recent FST meetings Jim? Just curious why you don't think the FST know anything about the Riverside development. Since our MD and other Bd members also attend the meetings does that mean you don't rate their knowledge either? Or do you think they lie to the FST?
Quote from: Fernhurst on April 16, 2020, 10:25:55 AM
Please stop sniping at one another ladies, as the ultimate outcome is the thread being locked.
Since this thread has started it's been a place of hope and excitement.
The rest of us are only interested in seeing the progress.
Amen.
Riverside Update
The latest update on works carried out on the Riverside development includes a steel frame construction at the Putney End corner to incorporate TV studios and event control room.
Recent works have also included piling works and river walkway precast concrete troughs with steel reinforcement in place and ready for concrete infill.
A selection of recent photos available:
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2020/riverside_update_april/fulham_stad_update_2.jpg?w=700&h=375)
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2020/riverside_update_april/fulham_stad_update_3.jpg?w=700&h=375)
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2020/riverside_update_april/fulham_stad_update_4.jpg?w=700&h=375)
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2020/riverside_update_april/fulham_stad_update_5.jpg?w=700&h=375)
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http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/april/16/riverside-update
Quote from: SP on April 16, 2020, 05:51:46 PM
Riverside Update
The latest update on works carried out on the Riverside development includes a steel frame construction at the Putney End corner to incorporate TV studios and event control room.
Recent works have also included piling works and river walkway precast concrete troughs with steel reinforcement in place and ready for concrete infill.
A selection of recent photos available:
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http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/april/16/riverside-update
Thanks for sending this. Great to see some progress, showing some of the foundations and areas for the plinth beams.
I do notice there never seems to be many people working in the photos.
Does anyone know how many people are involved in the construction ?
Quote from: Stevieboy on April 20, 2020, 07:25:10 PM
I do notice there never seems to be many people working in the photos.
Does anyone know how many people are involved in the construction ?
Don't worry Stevieboy
The "workers" are temporarily away from CC as they are needed for fruit & veg picking.
They will be back soon enough to finish in time to get all ready for the start of the August 2030 season!
COYW!!
I thought they were extending its the river by 18 mts.Doesn't look it to me.
Quote from: Stevieboy on April 20, 2020, 07:25:10 PM
I do notice there never seems to be many people working in the photos.
Does anyone know how many people are involved in the construction ?
They are all on a go slow since once of them struck oil.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on April 20, 2020, 07:43:05 PM
I thought they were extending its the river by 18 mts.Doesn't look it to me.
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Take another look that's 18 metres.
Quote from: gang on April 20, 2020, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on April 20, 2020, 07:43:05 PM
I thought they were extending its the river by 18 mts.Doesn't look it to me.
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Take another look that's 18 metres.
See what your saying.The article I read suggested we were gaining 18 metres from existing.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 20, 2020, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Stevieboy on April 20, 2020, 07:25:10 PM
I do notice there never seems to be many people working in the photos.
Does anyone know how many people are involved in the construction ?
They are all on a go slow since once of them struck oil.
...and what with the current price of crude oil they've got to find someone to pay to take it away ....
Quote from: SP on April 16, 2020, 05:51:46 PM
Riverside Update
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2020/riverside_update_april/fulham_stad_update_6.jpg?w=700&h=375)
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/april/16/riverside-update
When looking at the angle of the TV/studio boxes it seems like it doesn't fit with the renderings we've had from the inside:
(https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/03/21/11/fulham2103abcd.jpg?w968)
Is anyone aware of an updated interior rendering?
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 21, 2020, 09:10:13 AM
Quote from: SP on April 16, 2020, 05:51:46 PM
Riverside Update
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/gallery/2020/riverside_update_april/fulham_stad_update_6.jpg?w=700&h=375)
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/april/16/riverside-update
When looking at the angle of the TV/studio boxes it seems like it doesn't fit with the renderings we've had from the inside:
(https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/03/21/11/fulham2103abcd.jpg?w968)
Is anyone aware of an updated interior rendering?
Looks like a window at the top overlooking the seats in the stand.Maybe added a few more?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
If as the Club say, progress is still on track, then this month is set to be the most exciting so far as we get to see the huge steel frame starting to go up, will be a real poignant moment when we get to see the first picture showing this happening.
Looks like the river barges have gone
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Quote from: Stevieboy on April 20, 2020, 07:25:10 PM
I do notice there never seems to be many people working in the photos.
Does anyone know how many people are involved in the construction ?
Could be they're moving that quickly the camera doesnt pick them up. If that's the case I wonder if they can kick a ball?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 07, 2020, 03:38:52 PM
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Thanks muchly. I love to see these pics & am hoping to get across for the opening next year. And that recent video as well brought it all to life
I took those latest pics & it was extremely busy, tippers going in & out. Loads of noise coming from the ground & plenty of workman beavering about
Good to see something positive, keep the photos coming.
Looks like there covering the corners which hopeFully helps the atmosphere assuming the same at the hammersmith end.
I think we are getting within a month or so when we will see the steel framework starting, that will indicate real progress.
Please keep the photographs coming as they are a real tonic during Lockdown.
Quote from: filham on May 07, 2020, 08:16:10 PM
I think we are getting within a month or so when we will see the steel framework starting, that will indicate real progress.
Please keep the photographs coming as they are a real tonic during Lockdown.
Talking about tonic, where is my Gordon´s bottle?
Even the underling work looks professional and of a high standard. When the steels start rising it will be difficult keep from not being excited
They still have to excavate the basement level apparently so not sure how that affects the steelwork going up, which should've been taking place soon
That last picture with all the grass in the foreground is rather a mystery. I assume it is the view from Bishops Park , then what are the white buildings behind the green fence that look like a row of houses, contactors huts ??
Quote from: filham on May 08, 2020, 10:02:52 AM
That last picture with all the grass in the foreground is rather a mystery. I assume it is the view from Bishops Park , then what are the white buildings behind the green fence that look like a row of houses, contactors huts ??
Contractors huts, office facilities, meeting rooms, coffee break.. stuff needed beside bending steel.
For sure exiting times.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 07, 2020, 04:15:45 PM
I took those latest pics & it was extremely busy, tippers going in & out. Loads of noise coming from the ground & plenty of workman beavering about
There are about 70 workers on site.
Latest images courtesy of Phil Eshelby via the Friends of Fulham Facebook page.
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"Would be keen to know why they didn't finish the last bit of the slab here?"
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 24, 2020, 02:23:22 PM
Latest images courtesy of Phil Eshelby via the Friends of Fulham Facebook page.
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"Would be keen to know why they didn't finish the last bit of the slab here?"
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Looks like it steps up higher at that end for some reason and maybe finish mat be different.
Quote from: Riversider on May 06, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
If as the Club say, progress is still on track, then this month is set to be the most exciting so far as we get to see the huge steel frame starting to go up, will be a real poignant moment when we get to see the first picture showing this happening.
According to the clubs own schedule, the steel frame was going to start going up in April, the glazing was to start in May, and the concrete terracing to start in June,
So by that reckoning we must be at least two months behind schedule already, cant be because of the weather or football disruption can only be down to Covid-19
Thank you Phil for this latest update.
Please keep updating us, we are an eager audience.
Most likely reason for the job running late is that the contractor is finding things more difficult than anticipated, and it really looks a complex build.
However , no doubt the reason for delay will be given as coronavirus.
A lot of the work schedule has been changed because there may not be a Summer football break in July, Should start to see steel going up in August. The Putney Stand media centre has got the dry lining boys in now and the basement is being dug and shipped away by barge.
Quote from: filham on May 25, 2020, 08:24:07 PM
Most likely reason for the job running late is that the contractor is finding things more difficult than anticipated, and it really looks a complex build.
However , no doubt the reason for delay will be given as coronavirus.
It could also be because the supplies are not available, my son is a plasterer, he has a lot of work on hold because he cannot get the stuff, a bag of plaster costs around £8.00, currently selling on eBay for £45.00.
Hows the progress looking now?
That's an old video, from January.
Quote from: _Putney_ on June 13, 2020, 05:01:56 PM
That's an old video, from January.
Yes, we havn't seen any pictures for some three weeks or so, be nice to be right up to date.
I think the website had a new Video but wouldn't load on my iPad.
Didn't see this posted:
Has an updated video.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on June 16, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Didn't see this posted: https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/june/10/riverside-update
Has an updated video.
Am i imagining things, or has the dugout been removed?
Guess they can put the dugout in the Johnny Haynes for a while - the season ticket holders won't complain!
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 17, 2020, 09:35:17 AM
Guess they can put the dugout in the Johnny Haynes for a while - the season ticket holders won't complain!
The dugout has been in front of the JH stand all season unless I have been dreaming.
Quote from: filham on June 17, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 17, 2020, 09:35:17 AM
Guess they can put the dugout in the Johnny Haynes for a while - the season ticket holders won't complain!
The dugout has been in front of the JH stand all season unless I have been dreaming.
youve been dreaming.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 17, 2020, 11:22:11 AM
Quote from: filham on June 17, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 17, 2020, 09:35:17 AM
Guess they can put the dugout in the Johnny Haynes for a while - the season ticket holders won't complain!
The dugout has been in front of the JH stand all season unless I have been dreaming.
youve been dreaming.
Oh dear, the pre match line up was in front of the JH stand though , unless that was another dream.
Quote from: filham on June 17, 2020, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 17, 2020, 11:22:11 AM
Quote from: filham on June 17, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 17, 2020, 09:35:17 AM
Guess they can put the dugout in the Johnny Haynes for a while - the season ticket holders won't complain!
The dugout has been in front of the JH stand all season unless I have been dreaming.
youve been dreaming.
Oh dear, the pre match line up was in front of the JH stand though , unless that was another dream.
The dugout has always been in front of the JH stand, just on the other side of the pitch..
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Quote from: filham on June 17, 2020, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 17, 2020, 11:22:11 AM
Quote from: filham on June 17, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 17, 2020, 09:35:17 AM
Guess they can put the dugout in the Johnny Haynes for a while - the season ticket holders won't complain!
The dugout has been in front of the JH stand all season unless I have been dreaming.
youve been dreaming.
Oh dear, the pre match line up was in front of the JH stand though , unless that was another dream.
yes, that happened
Quote from: Riversider on May 25, 2020, 10:26:30 AM
Quote from: Riversider on May 06, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
If as the Club say, progress is still on track, then this month is set to be the most exciting so far as we get to see the huge steel frame starting to go up, will be a real poignant moment when we get to see the first picture showing this happening.
According to the clubs own schedule, the steel frame was going to start going up in April, the glazing was to start in May, and the concrete terracing to start in June,
So by that reckoning we must be at least two months behind schedule already, cant be because of the weather or football disruption can only be down to Covid-19
I was at the ground on Monday and was watching the work going on and it appeared to me that excavation work was still going on, according to the club's very own timeline above the steel frame should have started going up four months ago, some glazing should have been put in and the concrete terracing for the seats to attach to should have been well underway,
Starting to look like it might be two seasons instead of one before it opens, when Brentford were building their stadium there were updates on virtually a daily basis (check out their website) with Fulham updates are like trying to get blood out of a stone, why ?
How hard would it be to have a fixed camera position in H7 that could take a picture say every Friday at 5pm ?
Working is continuing at a pace it's just the updates that need speeding up.
The glimpses we see during a FFCtv match broadcast show no sign of a steel frame coming out of the ground.
Just possible that Sky may give us a quick peep tonight, so keep a look out.
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A tweet from Sheet Piling seems to show something going on
https://twitter.com/sheetpilinguk/status/1281159911083294720?s
Quote from: Riversider on July 10, 2020, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: Riversider on May 25, 2020, 10:26:30 AM
Quote from: Riversider on May 06, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
If as the Club say, progress is still on track, then this month is set to be the most exciting so far as we get to see the huge steel frame starting to go up, will be a real poignant moment when we get to see the first picture showing this happening.
According to the clubs own schedule, the steel frame was going to start going up in April, the glazing was to start in May, and the concrete terracing to start in June,
So by that reckoning we must be at least two months behind schedule already, cant be because of the weather or football disruption can only be down to Covid-19
I was at the ground on Monday and was watching the work going on and it appeared to me that excavation work was still going on, according to the club's very own timeline above the steel frame should have started going up four months ago, some glazing should have been put in and the concrete terracing for the seats to attach to should have been well underway,
Starting to look like it might be two seasons instead of one before it opens, when Brentford were building their stadium there were updates on virtually a daily basis (check out their website) with Fulham updates are like trying to get blood out of a stone, why ?
How hard would it be to have a fixed camera position in H7 that could take a picture say every Friday at 5pm ?
Working is continuing at a pace it's just the updates that need speeding up.
I'm sure the schedule was always 2 seasons but it does appear to be running a few months behind. Prob not a surprise with COVID affected supply and work issues
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Is it me or has progress really slowed? Was sure the steel frame would be going up by now, even allowing for Covid
I wonder if the Covid situation has caused any concern regarding the non match day facilities?
My daughter works in meetings & events for a large hotel chain. Most of her clients are meetings & seminars which I don't think would have much bearing on us or would it? A lot of companies are conducting stuff like this through Zoom now.
She also said the hospitality side ,ie banquets & group parties could take a very long time to reach pre Covid levels.
I know the idea was to have the stand used 7 days a week, 1000s of square feet put aside for this kind of thing
Quote from: Statto on July 15, 2020, 08:14:19 PM
Is it me or has progress really slowed? Was sure the steel frame would be going up by now, even allowing for Covid
Although there was work going on, none of the big stuff was being done
Looking at the construction timeline previously issued by FFC we are at least 3 - 4 months behind.
We are still carrying out ground works that should have been completed in February and March.
April should have seen steelwork being erected and as the timeline says:
The new Riverside Stand will now be a visible feature of the skyline!!
That's a lot of catching up to do.
That's quite worrying, I have been told the similar work being done at The Oval were ahead of schedule because of coronavirus (no matchdays of course, more work can be done).
Quote from: Brawn on July 15, 2020, 10:07:54 PM
That's quite worrying, I have been told the similar work being done at The Oval were ahead of schedule because of coronavirus (no matchdays of course, more work can be done).
Updates I've seen on Nursery Ground development at Lord's also progressing. The upper levels seem to be ahead of schedule.
Quote from: Statto on July 15, 2020, 08:14:19 PM
Is it me or has progress really slowed? Was sure the steel frame would be going up by now, even allowing for Covid
As I said 5 posts above yours , the steel frame should have started going up in April, some of the glazing should have been going in by now, best estimates would suggest the project is at least 4 months behind schedule.
It's also strange that we never see the development on Fulham tv
The project should have enjoyed a 3 month summer break from matches but in fact that was replaced with 3 months of Covid 19 so I imagine there has been a lot of disruption.
It really looks as if the programme has slipped and the suggested 4 moth lost is not going to be made up, what is the current progress I wonder.
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2020, 10:38:33 AM
The project should have enjoyed a 3 month summer break from matches but in fact that was replaced with 3 months of Covid 19 so I imagine there has been a lot of disruption.
It really looks as if the programme has slipped and the suggested 4 moth lost is not going to be made up, what is the current progress I wonder.
Just spoke to my mate who works in the construction industry & he said just that. A lot of the projects & developments his company are working on are behind schedule.
He said Buckingham would have sub contractors involved & many of those would have staff furloughed. My mates site is currently working on a skeleton staff
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 16, 2020, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: filham on July 16, 2020, 10:38:33 AM
The project should have enjoyed a 3 month summer break from matches but in fact that was replaced with 3 months of Covid 19 so I imagine there has been a lot of disruption.
It really looks as if the programme has slipped and the suggested 4 moth lost is not going to be made up, what is the current progress I wonder.
Just spoke to my mate who works in the construction industry & he said just that. A lot of the projects & developments his company are working on are behind schedule.
He said Buckingham would have sub contractors involved & many of those would have staff furloughed. My mates site is currently working on a skeleton staff
Also the supply chain for materials is very erratic at the moment.
Quote from: Riversider on May 06, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
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If as the Club say, progress is still on track, then this month is set to be the most exciting so far as we get to see the huge steel frame starting to go up, will be a real poignant moment when we get to see the first picture showing this happening.
Would be nice if somebody from the club or the supporters trust could give us a long overdue update now, as you can see from the link above, the steel frame was supposed to go up in April,
So I would like to know, when is work on the steel frame expected to commence , and what is the new scheduled completion date ?
Why don't you email the club and ask them to post something on the official site 🙄
As someone who regularly jogs on the Barnes side of the River. They are still working on the excavation of the basements, but some piling has commenced. You can hear the noise. So it looks the project is between 5-6 months behind.
The work time schedule was altered when football stopped.
Skeleton staff can only work on the lighter stuff as they don't have the muscle for the heavier stuff!
Bit of a worry......
Some of us are waiting anxiously to see the finished article.
Stood on the terrace in 1958 before The Riverside was built.
Attended the first game v Benfica in section W when The Riverside Stand was opened 1971.
Attended the last game v Newcastle in section W in 2019 before the demolition started.
Very very keen to sit in the new Khan Stand in 2022.
Get ya finger out boys, some of us are desperate. Lol
Something has gone adrift with the project, no formal news or pictures for a long time now.
Quote from: filham on August 11, 2020, 08:25:20 PM
Something has gone adrift with the project, no formal news or pictures for a long time now.
Something has gone adrift with the project?
The club updates about every 2 to 3 months officially. The last was mid June. Shahid Khan referenced the project last week in a positive light for the future of the whole club in light of promotion.
I have no proof obviously but I'd suggest everything is hunky dory
Councils need to inspect at certain stages of all large construction. Who knows whether they are being used to ensure COVID safety is being carried out correctly? Not all inspectors are river trained
I will pop down to take a photo shortly, but I think.. big think... there is signs of some frame going up.
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 13, 2020, 04:50:12 PM
I will pop down to take a photo shortly, but I think.. big think... there is signs of some frame going up.
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 13, 2020, 04:50:12 PM
I will pop down to take a photo shortly, but I think.. big think... there is signs of some frame going up.
We eagerly await your next post .It will be great to see some definite evidence of progress.
Seems like there is a steel frame being put up behind the commentary box. Must be part of the backing of the lower tier.
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Great pics, thanks
Ladies and Gents, Framework sighted!
Quote from: RoyTund on August 13, 2020, 07:56:08 PM
Ladies and Gents, Framework sighted!
where? you sure its not the scaffolding to enable Scoreboard upgrades?
Quote from: 3-lions on August 13, 2020, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on August 13, 2020, 07:56:08 PM
Ladies and Gents, Framework sighted!
where? you sure its not the scaffolding to enable Scoreboard upgrades?
It's not scaffolding, it's steal framework. Compare to the scaffolding around the 'media boxes' on pic 1. Not sure how it could possibly relate to the score boards on the Hammersmith and Putney ends as it is being built along the length of the riverside.
Looking good.
Thanks for the pictures, very kind, the progress now on a weekly basis should be startling,
By the time the first home match takes place in 3 or 4 weeks time the reaction should be "oh wow"
Quote from: Riversider on August 13, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
Thanks for the pictures, very kind, the progress now on a weekly basis should be startling,
By the time the first home match takes place in 3 or 4 weeks time the reaction should be "oh wow"
Can I add my thanks, much appreciated.
Wonderful to see the progress above ground at last.
Thanks very much for the pictures.
Great stuff.
I haven't been as excited by a hard lump of cold steel since Bobby Keetch retired.
The Putney End media boxes is quite a change from the original plan. You can find some of the planning change diagrams in the H&F council application search. We haven't seen any renderings of the new media boxes as far as I know - but it will 'close' off that corner even more.
I suspect the frame will, as someone suggested, start to move up quickly now. So I'll take more photos as soon as there appears to be change.
Great photos thanks!
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 13, 2020, 09:30:19 PM
The Putney End media boxes is quite a change from the original plan. You can find some of the planning change diagrams in the H&F council application search. We haven't seen any renderings of the new media boxes as far as I know - but it will 'close' off that corner even more.
I suspect the frame will, as someone suggested, start to move up quickly now. So I'll take more photos as soon as there appears to be change.
Thank you mate
Is it not finished yet?? No new kit, no signings, no news about season ticket prices. What the he'll is going on at our club. :005:
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 13, 2020, 09:30:19 PM
The Putney End media boxes is quite a change from the original plan. You can find some of the planning change diagrams in the H&F council application search. We haven't seen any renderings of the new media boxes as far as I know - but it will 'close' off that corner even more.
I suspect the frame will, as someone suggested, start to move up quickly now. So I'll take more photos as soon as there appears to be change.
Many thanks for the photos and really looking forward to your next batch in the hope of seeing the start of a steel framework forming the new stand.
Quote from: cmg on August 13, 2020, 08:36:27 PM
Thanks very much for the pictures.
Great stuff.
I haven't been as excited by a hard lump of cold steel since Bobby Keetch retired.
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What's all that flooding, in the foreground ? :005:
Quote from: Fulham1959 on August 14, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
What's all that flooding, in the foreground ? :005:
Yesterday's storm I reckon! :005:
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Funny reading the fulham trust minutes they mentioned steel work being delayed until the Autumn.Already started by the looks of it.
Quote from: Fulham1959 on August 14, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
What's all that flooding, in the foreground ? :005:
It's the subs bench.
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 13, 2020, 09:30:19 PM
The Putney End media boxes is quite a change from the original plan. You can find some of the planning change diagrams in the H&F council application search. We haven't seen any renderings of the new media boxes as far as I know - but it will 'close' off that corner even more.
I suspect the frame will, as someone suggested, start to move up quickly now. So I'll take more photos as soon as there appears to be change.
Thanks for that, regular photos would be very much appreciated.
The club did mention about putting up a webcam, we've just got to wait till 2025.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:41 AM
The club did mention about putting up a webcam, we've just got to wait till 2025.
my understanding is its being filmed by camera but doubt they will release any of it until finished and will be one of those time-lapse 5 minute type films.
As ive said before it would be so easy to set up a fixed camera in H7 and every 2 weeks at say 5pm on a Friday take a picture and post it on the Official website, its really that easy,
I love the Club to bits but the lack of information and updates is really poor ,
For instance can anybody on here tell me when the stand is going to open ?
Quote from: Riversider on August 16, 2020, 08:03:07 PM
As ive said before it would be so easy to set up a fixed camera in H7 and every 2 weeks at say 5pm on a Friday take a picture and post it on the Official website, its really that easy,
I love the Club to bits but the lack of information and updates is really poor ,
For instance can anybody on here tell me when the stand is going to open ?
When it's finished,
Don't get what the big deal is, it's going up everyone can see that.
Progress is slow especially compared with the development of the former stand known as the 'Rabbit Hutch' that was erected in a few weeks. It was put up so fast that even the local planners were unaware of it and so had to come down.
Slow and steady and get the job done properly. Supporters attending matches is some way off.
Quote from: alfie on August 16, 2020, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 16, 2020, 08:03:07 PM
As ive said before it would be so easy to set up a fixed camera in H7 and every 2 weeks at say 5pm on a Friday take a picture and post it on the Official website, its really that easy,
I love the Club to bits but the lack of information and updates is really poor ,
For instance can anybody on here tell me when the stand is going to open ?
When it's finished,
Don't get what the big deal is, it's going up everyone can see that.
It was scheduled to be ready for the start of 21/22. If that's impacted (assuming things back to normal by then) It would impact quite a lot in terms of STs etc. think it's pretty normal to have an interest in a major development at CC. You only have to look at Wimbledon and brentford to see how much updates they gave.
People stream on Twitch from their phones to thousands of viewers. I don't see Fulham couldn't set up a live stream somehow - via YouTube, via Twitch, etc. Wouldn't be that costly. But oh well.
...or they could open the Johnny Haynes Stand on non-match days and people could pay to come and watch the real-time progress.
Or more likely sit there and film it on their phones, as seemed to be the preferred method of watching live events in past days.
Quote from: cmg on August 18, 2020, 10:07:44 AM
...or they could open the Johnny Haynes Stand on non-match days and people could pay to come and watch the real-time progress.
Or more likely sit there and film it on their phones, as seemed to be the preferred method of watching live events in past days.
I work in construction and am fascinated with projects of all sizes, but the thought of sitting there and watching a building site is tantamount to paint drying.
Weekly updates via photos would be a much better way of tracking key milestones and visual changes.
Quote from: PhilEsh on August 18, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: cmg on August 18, 2020, 10:07:44 AM
...or they could open the Johnny Haynes Stand on non-match days and people could pay to come and watch the real-time progress.
Or more likely sit there and film it on their phones, as seemed to be the preferred method of watching live events in past days.
I work in construction and am fascinated with projects of all sizes, but the thought of sitting there and watching a building site is tantamount to paint drying.
Weekly updates via photos would be a much better way of tracking key milestones and visual changes.
I think I'll change my name to Isaak Walton.
Quote from: RoyTund on August 17, 2020, 08:31:36 PM
Quote from: alfie on August 16, 2020, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 16, 2020, 08:03:07 PM
As ive said before it would be so easy to set up a fixed camera in H7 and every 2 weeks at say 5pm on a Friday take a picture and post it on the Official website, its really that easy,
I love the Club to bits but the lack of information and updates is really poor ,
For instance can anybody on here tell me when the stand is going to open ?
When it's finished,
Don't get what the big deal is, it's going up everyone can see that.
It was scheduled to be ready for the start of 21/22. If that's impacted (assuming things back to normal by then) It would impact quite a lot in terms of STs etc. think it's pretty normal to have an interest in a major development at CC. You only have to look at Wimbledon and brentford to see how much updates they gave.
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THIS, THIS, THIS
In the last 12 months the website have given us 11 updates(3 within 2 days of each other) so lets call it 9 in 12 months, I dont think its that bad considering not really much has been seen to be done. I expect as things begin to raise from the ground we will have more to see and maybe more updates, but basically looking at a flat building site does not exactly get the blood flowing does it?
Agree with MJG until now there is not much to look at, it'll get done when it gets done.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
Tosh is 86 now Fernhurst. Would he be our oldest living player?
Quote from: bog on August 18, 2020, 04:47:19 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
Tosh is 86 now Fernhurst. Would he be our oldest living player?
Reckon your right Captain.
Makes you think, when we had our noses pressed against the railings Tosh would have been mid twenties. Did we ever think we would get to today??
Thank you Tosh for all those memories.
As Buzz Lightyear would say.
"2020 and Beyond"
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 18, 2020, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: bog on August 18, 2020, 04:47:19 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
Tosh is 86 now Fernhurst. Would he be our oldest living player?
Reckon your right Captain.
Makes you think, when we had our noses pressed against the railings Tosh would have been mid twenties. Did we ever think we would get to today??
Thank you Tosh for all those memories.
As Buzz Lightyear would say.
"2020 and Beyond"
Well I didn't Fernhurst. To me the year 2000 sounded like something from outer space. As you say thanks for those golden moments Tosh.
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Quote from: MJG on August 18, 2020, 04:10:50 PM
In the last 12 months the website have given us 11 updates(3 within 2 days of each other) so lets call it 9 in 12 months, I dont think its that bad considering not really much has been seen to be done. I expect as things begin to raise from the ground we will have more to see and maybe more updates, but basically looking at a flat building site does not exactly get the blood flowing does it?
I doubt the builders are going to share their photos with the public, so either Fulham Football Club needs to send a photographer to the Cottage or an FFC fan can take some photos. I am sure a lot of locals have seen the site regularly, and obviously think another photo from the Thames wouldn't add much. If FFC and its Fans aren't taking more photos probably their isn't much more to see than what we have seen.
Up until now there probably isn't much to see.
Going forward I would expect a time lapsed camera in the near future and a drone camera film or 2 between now and the finish would be nice.
The point I was unsuccessfuly making is that it is at least a year away from being complete, so I just couldn't understand why it was so urgent to be asking when it will be finished.
Apologies to anyone who felt offended.
Quote from: MJG on August 18, 2020, 04:10:50 PM
In the last 12 months the website have given us 11 updates(3 within 2 days of each other) so lets call it 9 in 12 months, I dont think its that bad considering not really much has been seen to be done. I expect as things begin to raise from the ground we will have more to see and maybe more updates, but basically looking at a flat building site does not exactly get the blood flowing does it?
That is why we are eagerly awaiting to see the steel superstructure starting to take shape. We were advised that this milestone would have been passed by now.
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1296131629061230592
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1296127414171504640
Quote from: filham on August 19, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
Quote from: MJG on August 18, 2020, 04:10:50 PM
In the last 12 months the website have given us 11 updates(3 within 2 days of each other) so lets call it 9 in 12 months, I dont think its that bad considering not really much has been seen to be done. I expect as things begin to raise from the ground we will have more to see and maybe more updates, but basically looking at a flat building site does not exactly get the blood flowing does it?
That is why we are eagerly awaiting to see the steel superstructure starting to take shape. We were advised that this milestone would have been passed by now.
advised being the word,what will be will he, its going up and if its done on time great, if it slips so be it as well. Its nice to get an update and I'm sure we will get more as it starts to take shape instead of being an empty bit of space next to the river.
Its almost as if a few of you can't wait to see wrong in it as well....look its behind schedule, those ******* are useless. ...rather than enjoy the fact its finally being built even tho some of those same people now complaining were amongst those saying it would not get built.
Funny, of all the benefits the new stand will likely bring, the thing that excites me most is the new exit into Bishops Park & strolling straight onto the Thames Path.
Quote from: SP on August 19, 2020, 07:47:13 PM
Funny, of all the benefits the new stand will likely bring, the thing that excites me most is the new exit into Bishops Park & strolling straight onto the Thames Path.
Will help having entrances and exits both directly into bishops park and also north onto the path behind the hammersmith. Am I correct in understanding that you will not be able to enter the new stand directly from the Riverside path in front of it?
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"What the hell are we going to put in this bloody great hole?"
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 20, 2020, 10:35:42 AM
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Now THAT's a football stand.....And it's facing the right way.
Thanks for posting.
Quote from: MJG on August 19, 2020, 07:19:27 PM
advised being the word,what will be will he, its going up and if its done on time great, if it slips so be it as well. Its nice to get an update and I'm sure we will get more as it starts to take shape instead of being an empty bit of space next to the river.
Its almost as if a few of you can't wait to see wrong in it as well....look its behind schedule, those ******* are useless. ...rather than enjoy the fact its finally being built even tho some of those same people now complaining were amongst those saying it would not get built.
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Quite agree with your sentiment, too many wanting it to fail which seems weird.
Great picture, I think I can see the start of the steel framework, that is encouraging.
If one or two of us are expressing concern about the programme slipping that should not be taken as negative reactions but rathe as healthy interest.
Make no mistake civil engineering projects can run very late and over budget, we don't want to see that at the Cottage.
Good to see the progress and fingers crossed it's finished on time.
I have written off attending this current season what with ever changing self isolation rules and having to fly into the UK for games. Also we have had no cases for 112 days, never had to wear masks, and life has been completely normal now for over two months.
Hoping when returning for the 21-22 season to be sat in the new stand and be enjoying (apart from VAR ) premiership football. Can't wait to get back to watching live games again. 049:gif
There's an update on The Official today if any wizz kid can provide a link .
Quote from: Riversider on August 24, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
There's an update on The Official today if any wizz kid can provide a link .
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/august/24/riverside-august-update (https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/august/24/riverside-august-update)
Quote from: hongkongfulham on August 24, 2020, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 24, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
There's an update on The Official today if any wizz kid can provide a link .
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/august/24/riverside-august-update (https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/august/24/riverside-august-update)
It's a pity the still pictures were taken on such a gloomy weather day.
Quote from: cmg on August 19, 2020, 08:39:16 PM
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"What the hell are we going to put in this bloody great hole?"
"Dig another hole and put the soil we dig out in this one Mr Mackay".
Quote from: Fulham1959 on August 24, 2020, 02:18:37 PM
Quote from: hongkongfulham on August 24, 2020, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 24, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
There's an update on The Official today if any wizz kid can provide a link .
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/august/24/riverside-august-update (https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/august/24/riverside-august-update)
It's a pity the still pictures were taken on such a gloomy weather day.
Should've turned the flash on.
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Thanks for posting,that's gonna be one impressive structure.Getting the feel for the size of it now.
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 24, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
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Thanks Putney, that really makes a difference, any chance of posting the picture that looks as it was taken from The Johnny Haynes Stand ?
Quote from: Riversider on August 24, 2020, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 24, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
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Thanks Putney, that really makes a difference, any chance of posting the picture that looks as it was taken from The Johnny Haynes Stand ?
lol sorry, i thought that was the one no one would want to see
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My apartment is coming along nicely
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 24, 2020, 06:59:09 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 24, 2020, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 24, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
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Thanks Putney, that really makes a difference, any chance of posting the picture that looks as it was taken from The Johnny Haynes Stand ?
lol sorry, i thought that was the one no one would want to see
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/2019_20_matches/august_works/unknown-3.jpeg
Thanks again Putney, much appreciated.
The steels by the pitch to look like the first tier of seating having had a closer look?Great pictures thanks.
Just had a zoom meeting with some Fulham fans claiming that a project is underway to submit plans for the Putney stand to be developed next.
Also, Johnny Haynes work and Hammersmith stand as 3rd phase of a complete stadium re-vamp..
Johnny Haynes stand to have a new roof and only a small number of seats added, but the brick facade on the exterior needs to remain. AS it's been mentioned, it's listed.
No support pillars or restricted view seats, means that the Putney and Hammersmith stand will have new roofs too.
Looking forward to hearing more about this from the club hopefully soon. Or if any one else knows more?
Quote from: fcfulham55 on August 25, 2020, 01:07:56 PM
Just had a zoom meeting with some Fulham fans claiming that a project is underway to submit plans for the Putney stand to be developed next.
Also, Johnny Haynes work and Hammersmith stand as 3rd phase of a complete stadium re-vamp..
Johnny Haynes stand to have a new roof and only a small number of seats added, but the brick facade on the exterior needs to remain. AS it's been mentioned, it's listed.
No support pillars or restricted view seats, means that the Putney and Hammersmith stand will have new roofs too.
Looking forward to hearing more about this from the club hopefully soon. Or if any one else knows more?
Wow, that's a bit of a scoop if correct. Look forward to hearing more about this.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on August 25, 2020, 01:07:56 PM
Just had a zoom meeting with some Fulham fans claiming that a project is underway to submit plans for the Putney stand to be developed next.
Also, Johnny Haynes work and Hammersmith stand as 3rd phase of a complete stadium re-vamp..
Johnny Haynes stand to have a new roof and only a small number of seats added, but the brick facade on the exterior needs to remain. AS it's been mentioned, it's listed.
No support pillars or restricted view seats, means that the Putney and Hammersmith stand will have new roofs too.
Looking forward to hearing more about this from the club hopefully soon. Or if any one else knows more?
I saw this doing the rounds, can't remember if posted here at all (don't know if this is new, old, or what... probably just a fake thing):
(https://i.imgur.com/0Bd7EKo.png?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
*EDIT: Can a mod fix the size for me?
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 25, 2020, 01:32:08 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on August 25, 2020, 01:07:56 PM
Just had a zoom meeting with some Fulham fans claiming that a project is underway to submit plans for the Putney stand to be developed next.
Also, Johnny Haynes work and Hammersmith stand as 3rd phase of a complete stadium re-vamp..
Johnny Haynes stand to have a new roof and only a small number of seats added, but the brick facade on the exterior needs to remain. AS it's been mentioned, it's listed.
No support pillars or restricted view seats, means that the Putney and Hammersmith stand will have new roofs too.
Looking forward to hearing more about this from the club hopefully soon. Or if any one else knows more?
I saw this doing the rounds, can't remember if posted here at all (don't know if this is new, old, or what... probably just a fake thing):
(https://i.imgur.com/0Bd7EKo.png?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
*EDIT: Can a mod fix the size for me?
That's from the MAF 2001 bowl design. I believe, so unfortunately fake.
New(ish) computer image of whats expected doing the rounds on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg2pdvgXkAErWNe?format=jpg&name=large
I have been along the river a few times recently and no obvious change - the framework has extended a bit further along. Will take more photos as soon as there is worthy change.
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
New(ish) computer image of whats expected doing the rounds on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg2pdvgXkAErWNe?format=jpg&name=large
I have been along the river a few times recently and no obvious change - the framework has extended a bit further along. Will take more photos as soon as there is worthy change.
That picture is in the gallery on the FFC website... https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/artists-impression/
Quote from: finknottle on September 02, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
New(ish) computer image of whats expected doing the rounds on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg2pdvgXkAErWNe?format=jpg&name=large
I have been along the river a few times recently and no obvious change - the framework has extended a bit further along. Will take more photos as soon as there is worthy change.
That picture is in the gallery on the FFC website... https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/artists-impression/
Oh.. I have never seen it, so perhaps I'm an idiot, lol..
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: finknottle on September 02, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
New(ish) computer image of whats expected doing the rounds on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg2pdvgXkAErWNe?format=jpg&name=large
I have been along the river a few times recently and no obvious change - the framework has extended a bit further along. Will take more photos as soon as there is worthy change.
That picture is in the gallery on the FFC website... https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/artists-impression/
Oh.. I have never seen it, so perhaps I'm an idiot, lol..
Maybe they only added it with the launch of the new website?
Quote from: finknottle on September 02, 2020, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: finknottle on September 02, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
New(ish) computer image of whats expected doing the rounds on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg2pdvgXkAErWNe?format=jpg&name=large
I have been along the river a few times recently and no obvious change - the framework has extended a bit further along. Will take more photos as soon as there is worthy change.
That picture is in the gallery on the FFC website... https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/artists-impression/
Oh.. I have never seen it, so perhaps I'm an idiot, lol..
Maybe they only added it with the launch of the new website?
Could be it! :)
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
Quote from: finknottle on September 02, 2020, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: finknottle on September 02, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 02, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
New(ish) computer image of whats expected doing the rounds on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg2pdvgXkAErWNe?format=jpg&name=large
I have been along the river a few times recently and no obvious change - the framework has extended a bit further along. Will take more photos as soon as there is worthy change.
That picture is in the gallery on the FFC website... https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/artists-impression/
Oh.. I have never seen it, so perhaps I'm an idiot, lol..
Maybe they only added it with the launch of the new website?
Could be it! :)
It's always been there they just update every now or then.
Things are taking shape and looking good, hoping to see some real visible progress now before the winter weather sets in.
The club has submitted a non-material amendment to the plans for hotel rooms instead of serviced apartments. Makes a lot of sense from commercial perspective. Anyone got any recent photos BTW?
Small update:
The beginning framework now extends the length of the pitch (approximately)
There is a cube-like frame behind it now coming up
(https://i.imgur.com/P2IST41.png?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Edit: Mods, what am I doing wrong with the sizing?? :005: :005:
P.s. the new scoreboards look decent.
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 10, 2020, 01:33:59 PM
Small update:
The beginning framework now extends the length of the pitch (approximately)
There is a cube-like frame behind it now coming up
(https://i.imgur.com/P2IST41.png?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Edit: Mods, what am I doing wrong with the sizing?? :005: :005:
When you post a full size picture, preview it and it appears something like this:
"[img]https://i.imgur.com/P2IST41.png?......."
edit to read:
"[img
width=450]https://i.imgur.com/P2IST41.png?...."
and it comes out as above. Adjust the '450' to suit the size you want.
Thanks!
Much more still going on thats not so visable.
Are the new screens any bigger? The previous were tiny/ useless to me.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 10, 2020, 03:13:06 PM
Much more still going on thats not so visable.
Are the new screens any bigger? The previous were tiny/ useless to me.
Tiny/useless, at least you can see them, I sit in the JH stand behind the press box and can't even see them!
That cube like structure being erected looks like a stairwell or lift shaft.
Thank you for the update great to see the progress.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on September 10, 2020, 03:27:13 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 10, 2020, 03:13:06 PM
Much more still going on thats not so visable.
Are the new screens any bigger? The previous were tiny/ useless to me.
Tiny/useless, at least you can see them, I sit in the JH stand behind the press box and can't even see them!
Lol well you wasn't missing anything.
https://twitter.com/Ivan_berry/status/1304711255530311680?s=20
A shot of the stand in the video.
Getting some real height now!
(https://i.imgur.com/4RSPtUU.png)
https://twitter.com/tomjgreatrex/status/1305623791821819905?s=21
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 17, 2020, 11:36:11 AM
https://twitter.com/tomjgreatrex/status/1305623791821819905?s=21
Nice update,
Wonder if we will get that webcam on the works going on? Just about every other team that builds a new stand or stadium has it in place from day 1. The argument was that, there's not a lot to see at the start of a project, surely now though we are at that stage where visual works are now happening!!
I was at the ground yesterday and Can report that the tower that is going up behind the tv gantry now dominates the skyline and the work at the back of the Putney End is really taking shape.
Quote from: Riversider on September 21, 2020, 03:51:45 PM
I was at the ground yesterday and Can report that the tower that is going up behind the tv gantry now dominates the skyline and the work at the back of the Putney End is really taking shape.
Cheers Riversider. I suppose we'll have to wait till the Wednesday game on Wednesday to get a glimpse.
That last game at the Cottage seems like a lifetime ago.
I will take a photo tomorrow.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 21, 2020, 03:23:38 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 17, 2020, 11:36:11 AM
https://twitter.com/tomjgreatrex/status/1305623791821819905?s=21
Nice update,
Wonder if we will get that webcam on the works going on? Just about every other team that builds a new stand or stadium has it in place from day 1. The argument was that, there's not a lot to see at the start of a project, surely now though we are at that stage where visual works are now happening!!
I originally posted that on Twitter. Got a phone call from the club last week while I was on holiday & was asked to take it down which I did. They wanted to know where it came from & were citing all sorts of stuff why it shouldn't be posted
I've a mate who regularly delivers to the building site & he takes a few pics for me. They said all contractors onsite are told not to take or our post any photographs on social media so from now on I won't post anything
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 21, 2020, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 21, 2020, 03:23:38 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 17, 2020, 11:36:11 AM
https://twitter.com/tomjgreatrex/status/1305623791821819905?s=21
Nice update,
Wonder if we will get that webcam on the works going on? Just about every other team that builds a new stand or stadium has it in place from day 1. The argument was that, there's not a lot to see at the start of a project, surely now though we are at that stage where visual works are now happening!!
I originally posted that on Twitter. Got a phone call from the club last week while I was on holiday & was asked to take it down which I did. They wanted to know where it came from & were citing all sorts of stuff why it shouldn't be posted
I've a mate who regularly delivers to the building site & he takes a few pics for me. They said all contractors onsite are told not to take or our post any photographs so from now on I won't post anything
I sometimes really dislike the way our club is run. Really feel like the club is trying to push me away from Fulham
Sad as it is if you photograph something that you should not the club could be prosecuted. Why would they take that risk?
(https://i.imgur.com/X4nF7BJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9VWuJRW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pRXzf5j.jpg)
Second tower going up now too. Seems to be the stairwell.
Apologies that the quality of these isn't great, will take better ones soon with the wife's phone. :p
Does anyone want anything different?
Thanks for the update :plus one:
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 22, 2020, 01:52:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/X4nF7BJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9VWuJRW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pRXzf5j.jpg)
Second tower going up now too. Seems to be the stairwell.
Apologies that the quality of these isn't great, will take better ones soon with the wife's phone. :p
Does anyone want anything different?
Can we have a whip round and buy you a drone to fly over the top of the site?
"Second tower going up now too. Seems to be the stairwell" I think they are lifts and at least one ifs for VIPs only; the other likely for Corporate / Prawn sandwich types. Regular fans will be using the stair located at both ends 094.gif
Ha ha that's the tower that I was talking about, thanks for that Putney, you are doing a much better job than the club are, please keep it up if you can 👍🏻
I get up to the club every three weeks as we like to spend to time in Bishops Park, when we were trying to get planning permission many years ago, it was agreed that the Club would donate some millions for improvements to Bishop Park, does anybody know whether or not that money has been paid or is it still to be paid ?
Bishops Park was packed solid on Sunday, those pubs and cafes at the back of the Riverside Stand are going to make a fortune when they open.
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 22, 2020, 03:41:30 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 22, 2020, 01:52:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/X4nF7BJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9VWuJRW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pRXzf5j.jpg)
Second tower going up now too. Seems to be the stairwell.
Apologies that the quality of these isn't great, will take better ones soon with the wife's phone. :p
Does anyone want anything different?
Can we have a whip round and buy you a drone to fly over the top of the site?
Cheers Putney, certainly doing a lot better than the club. I sure I'm more interested in this than the results on the field at the minute. Whatever happens, the upgrade should help out a lot long term. Happy to chip in towards a drone if any one can operate one?
Drone that close to Heathrow....
Really coming along. Cannot wait to see it in person and be cheering em on COYW 049:gif
Think by the time we see it it will look much different. Given the announcement today it will be the middle of Feb 2021 earliest before some fans admitted.
Even the long shots are very interesting to see.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 23, 2020, 06:42:50 PM
Tower getting taller, but looked higher from other views. Still more height to come!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 23, 2020, 06:42:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
The fact that the steel tower isn't even close to how high the final stand will be, yet it's already up to the Putney Stand roof amazes me. I can't wait to see just how massive the Riverside Stand will be when completed, it's going to dwarf the other 3 sides and it'll be unbelievable.
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 23, 2020, 06:55:48 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 23, 2020, 06:42:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
The fact that the steel tower isn't even close to how high the final stand will be, yet it's already up to the Putney Stand roof amazes me. I can't wait to see just how massive the Riverside Stand will be when completed, it's going to dwarf the other 3 sides and it'll be unbelievable.
Think that's height of the stand itself. 7 levels with the basement. Big floating roof to go on to that. Still going up a bit slower than I thought
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 23, 2020, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 23, 2020, 06:55:48 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 23, 2020, 06:42:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
The fact that the steel tower isn't even close to how high the final stand will be, yet it's already up to the Putney Stand roof amazes me. I can't wait to see just how massive the Riverside Stand will be when completed, it's going to dwarf the other 3 sides and it'll be unbelievable.
Think that's height of the stand itself. 7 levels with the basement. Big floating roof to go on to that. Still going up a bit slower than I thought
Sorry I should've been clearer because I meant including roof, but still a huge stand compared to what we've all been accustomed too
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjA0-sYWkAMlbOI?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
You can see the terrace taking shape for the upper tier.
In fact, there's a lot more to see on the riverside than on the pitch at the moment.....
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 29, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjA0-sYWkAMlbOI?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
You can see the terrace taking shape for the upper tier.
Yeah, at least one positive. A nice new place to spend some money on the horizon, it's actually impossible to spend money and enjoy yourself with the current climate so I'm sure it will hit the ground running when things are back to normal.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 23, 2020, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 23, 2020, 06:42:50 PM
Tower getting taller, but looked higher from other views. Still more height to come!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 23, 2020, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 23, 2020, 06:42:50 PM
Tower getting taller, but looked higher from other views. Still more height to come!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinTCdDXsAItJMF?format=jpg&name=large)
Taken from Twitter.
Even after yesterday, there's our 3 centre backs still bunched together in the corner with our lone wolf forward out in front on his own
Have we learned nothing?
Quick thanks to the river walkers for their updates 082.gif Interesting to see the process.
https://imgur.com/a/j80bGZ7
Full album above, but below are the important ones:
(https://i.imgur.com/jsopVH9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zIQlLNI.jpeg)
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Quote from: _Putney_ on September 29, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
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Watering will make it grow quicker.
Quote from: cmg on October 07, 2020, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on September 29, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
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Watering will make it grow quicker.
We need a bit of rain
Thanks for the update,I had a look from the other side of the water a couple of weeks ago and the stand is going to be very large and extremely impressive.Once this crap is over it just what that part of Fulham is crying out for.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej4mIPJWAAEp9si?format=jpg&name=smal)
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It's looking good. I might try and pop over the river tomorrow morning and take some pictures from the Fulham side.
Quote from: _Putney_ on October 09, 2020, 03:50:08 PM
It's looking good. I might try and pop over the river tomorrow morning and take some pictures from the Fulham side.
Cheers Putney, would be appreciated by us all :)
Full Album:
https://imgur.com/a/0Pfpzxa
Highlights:
(https://i.imgur.com/gWqkL30.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nhKcx8Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ADH9mtx.jpg)
Wow, I hadn't thought about the walk up to ground. The beautiful Victorian Leitch stand in the foreground and the large stylish structure standing over it from the river. I imagine that is going to become an iconic picture for us all.
Fabulous shots ..... Thank you Putney.
The floodlights are going across the width of the stand, surely they are going to be visible for miles , anybody anticipating a problem ?
Quote from: Riversider on October 10, 2020, 02:34:46 PM
The floodlights are going across the width of the stand, surely they are going to be visible for miles , anybody anticipating a problem ?
Shouldn't be a problem as lights will be facing down. If they were a problem from outside the ground what would it be like in the Johnny Haynes stand for spectators.
I wonder what happened to the slugs (I think it was?) that they kicked up such a fuss about?
Quote from: sarnian on October 10, 2020, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 10, 2020, 02:34:46 PM
The floodlights are going across the width of the stand, surely they are going to be visible for miles , anybody anticipating a problem ?
People sat in The Johnny Haynes Stand won't be able to see them though, the new stand will tower over the Johnny Haynes Stand , one good thing though the supporters in The Johnny Haynes Stand will never ever have the sun in their eyes again 😉
Shouldn't be a problem as lights will be facing down. If they were a problem from outside the ground what would it be like in the Johnny Haynes stand for spectators.
Quote from: _Putney_ on October 10, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
Full Album:
https://imgur.com/a/0Pfpzxa
Highlights:
(https://i.imgur.com/gWqkL30.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nhKcx8Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ADH9mtx.jpg)
Thank you for that, starting to see real progress now.
Thank you so much for keeping us all up to date --> greatly appreciated
Thanks. Great photos.
https://imgur.com/a/8p2HZky
Thanks for all the pictures everyone. As a civil engineer and Fulham fan this is heaven for me haha.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on October 10, 2020, 11:58:19 AM
Wow, I hadn't thought about the walk up to ground. The beautiful Victorian Leitch stand in the foreground and the large stylish structure standing over it from the river. I imagine that is going to become an iconic picture for us all.
Yes, but i bet the people that live in those streets are not so pleased about it, I wonder if they realised what was comming.
Quote from: filham on October 13, 2020, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on October 10, 2020, 11:58:19 AM
Wow, I hadn't thought about the walk up to ground. The beautiful Victorian Leitch stand in the foreground and the large stylish structure standing over it from the river. I imagine that is going to become an iconic picture for us all.
Yes, but i bet the people that live in those streets are not so pleased about it, I wonder if they realised what was comming.
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Yes, that's why they tried to stop it.
thanks for the photos.Looking at the Stevenage road shots whats is the white structure seen above the Johnny Haynes roof?Cheers
Quote from: mrmicawbers on October 13, 2020, 12:57:54 PM
thanks for the photos.Looking at the Stevenage road shots whats is the white structure seen above the Johnny Haynes roof?Cheers
That's the roof of the Johnny Haynes stand.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on October 13, 2020, 12:57:54 PM
thanks for the photos.Looking at the Stevenage road shots whats is the white structure seen above the Johnny Haynes roof?Cheers
Yeah as sarnian said it's just the roof of the stand. It's colour in the photo makes it seem like it's something separate, but it's not. :)
Cheers lads its the Ridge or the roof that explains it.I have a seat in the last Row at the back of H block and never noticed it so much as i can see now.Maybe its because you can see the New stand behind?Think its going to look brilliant.Mind you it should do if they have spent !00 Million on it.Going to give some of our local rivals Stand Envy.
This has surely got to be one of the top 10 posts ever, even more exciting than the Andy Johnson (F5) signing thread?
I am now getting quite excited in watching the steel structure grow. Looking forward to seeing the next set of photographs.
Me too, first thing I look out for is new updates.
Thanks for the great pics.
Is the black stray cat still about,hope the workmen
are feeding her.😺
I'm in Fulham today so will take a few pics. Friend of mine delivers to the building site & would take a few photos for me. Unfortunately can't do that anymore as I asked a guy who had posted a few pics on Facebook if I could share them? I got a phone call from the club & was asked to take them off & they even tracked him down too. Apparently it's got something to do with contractual press release with the building contractors. Sounds bollocks to me but that's what they said
Yeah, disappointed with the club's coverage of the stand.
I took some photos on Sunday, how do I post them on here ?
Its starting to look incredible now, I get to see it every three weeks on Sunday it made me go "wow"
I cant even begin to imagine what it will be like for Fulham supporters who will be seeing it for the first time once its fully complete,
I dont care who you are you will not be mentally prepared for what you are going to see,
Its very, very lazy of the club to not provide more regular updates, once a month wouldnt kill them would it ?
Quote from: Riversider on October 20, 2020, 10:13:49 AM
I took some photos on Sunday, how do I post them on here ?
Its starting to look incredible now, I get to see it every three weeks on Sunday it made me go "wow"
I cant even begin to imagine what it will be like for Fulham supporters who will be seeing it for the first time once its fully complete,
I dont care who you are you will not be mentally prepared for what you are going to see,
Its very, very lazy of the club to not provide more regular updates, once a month wouldnt kill them would it ?
I'm sure you're right. It's the biggest thing to happen to the club in years and guarantees our future at our fantastic ground.
For the record, I am very happy with the clubs professionally put together updates every couple of months and I'm sure the next one is imminent. No doubt there will be a time lapse film released once is completed
It's not a lot to do with the club as the site belongs to the building company. Should anything be stollen from site it could be down to the club for providing pictures is my guess. That is my guess and I don't believe that i'm Far wrong
Don't really understand the prohibition against pictures. This only works due to Covid. If there was no lock down and fans could attend games, numerous pictures would be posted after home match
Quote from: Riversider on October 20, 2020, 10:13:49 AM
I took some photos on Sunday, how do I post them on here ?
Its starting to look incredible now, I get to see it every three weeks on Sunday it made me go "wow"
I cant even begin to imagine what it will be like for Fulham supporters who will be seeing it for the first time once its fully complete,
I dont care who you are you will not be mentally prepared for what you are going to see,
Its very, very lazy of the club to not provide more regular updates, once a month wouldnt kill them would it ?
Use this then post the links
https://pasteboard.co/
Can anyone predict when will the stand be ready?
Quote from: JoelH5 on October 20, 2020, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: Riversider on October 20, 2020, 10:13:49 AM
I took some photos on Sunday, how do I post them on here ?
Its starting to look incredible now, I get to see it every three weeks on Sunday it made me go "wow"
I cant even begin to imagine what it will be like for Fulham supporters who will be seeing it for the first time once its fully complete,
I dont care who you are you will not be mentally prepared for what you are going to see,
Its very, very lazy of the club to not provide more regular updates, once a month wouldnt kill them would it ?
Use this then post the links
https://pasteboard.co/
What do I do after ive uploaded the print ?
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Pictures supplied by Hillingdon FFC
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1318535393399242753
Kismet 3 coming on nicely 051
The most impressive pictures yet, looks as if we really are going to have a big new stand.
agree - the video shows it in comparison to the existing stands so shows how large its going to be and is already
Thanks for the Pics and Video.I was trying to find the schedule of works I know I have seen it somewhere and gives a finish date.I thought it was on the official Riverside update but can't find it now.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on October 20, 2020, 04:22:17 PM
Thanks for the Pics and Video.I was trying to find the schedule of works I know I have seen it somewhere and gives a finish date.I thought it was on the official Riverside update but can't find it now.
Its on this thread if you go back a few pages, it appears to be about 6 months behind schedule.
This was the dates given to FST
RIVERSIDE STAND PROGRESS
Whilst supporters can see progress of the Riverside Stand demolition progressing match by match, many have requested an update on next steps. The Trust asked for an overview of the main phases of the project and the Club provided the following summary with estimated dates. These dates were recently discussed with local residents at an open information session.
Phased demolition of old stand – underway, completion December 2019
New river wall and walkway piling – underway, completion early 2020
Putney Stand substructures and piling – underway
Putney Stand steel erection – commences November 2019
Basement excavation (18,000 m3) – commences January 2020
Basement piling – February 2020 to March 2020
River deck construction – November 2019 to February 2020
Steel erection – April 2020 to October 2020
Internal mechanical / electrical works – April 2020 to March 2021
Glazing – commences May 2020
Pre-cast concrete terracing – June 2020 to October 2020
Steel roof trusses lifted in – July 2020 to October 2020
Fit out – March 2020 to July 2021
Quote from: Chestfield John on October 20, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
This was the dates given to FST
RIVERSIDE STAND PROGRESS
Whilst supporters can see progress of the Riverside Stand demolition progressing match by match, many have requested an update on next steps. The Trust asked for an overview of the main phases of the project and the Club provided the following summary with estimated dates. These dates were recently discussed with local residents at an open information session.
Phased demolition of old stand – underway, completion December 2019
New river wall and walkway piling – underway, completion early 2020
Putney Stand substructures and piling – underway
Putney Stand steel erection – commences November 2019
Basement excavation (18,000 m3) – commences January 2020
Basement piling – February 2020 to March 2020
River deck construction – November 2019 to February 2020
Steel erection – April 2020 to October 2020
Internal mechanical / electrical works – April 2020 to March 2021
Glazing – commences May 2020
Pre-cast concrete terracing – June 2020 to October 2020
Steel roof trusses lifted in – July 2020 to October 2020
Fit out – March 2020 to July 2021
Based on this, we're months and months behind!
Quote from: fcfulham55 on October 20, 2020, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Chestfield John on October 20, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
This was the dates given to FST
RIVERSIDE STAND PROGRESS
Whilst supporters can see progress of the Riverside Stand demolition progressing match by match, many have requested an update on next steps. The Trust asked for an overview of the main phases of the project and the Club provided the following summary with estimated dates. These dates were recently discussed with local residents at an open information session.
Phased demolition of old stand – underway, completion December 2019
New river wall and walkway piling – underway, completion early 2020
Putney Stand substructures and piling – underway
Putney Stand steel erection – commences November 2019
Basement excavation (18,000 m3) – commences January 2020
Basement piling – February 2020 to March 2020
River deck construction – November 2019 to February 2020
Steel erection – April 2020 to October 2020
Internal mechanical / electrical works – April 2020 to March 2021
Glazing – commences May 2020
Pre-cast concrete terracing – June 2020 to October 2020
Steel roof trusses lifted in – July 2020 to October 2020
Fit out – March 2020 to July 2021
Based on this, we're months and months behind!
I would say yes. But it's not entirely surprising in these times 😔
Interesting video on the offal. Steelwork looks huge. Should see big difference by the end of the year. Lots of work going on at Tilbury which will be shipped up by barge and lifted into place by 460 ton crane.
Looks like something that when completed we will all be proud of.
Quote from: sarnian on October 20, 2020, 08:10:43 PM
Interesting video on the offal. Steelwork looks huge. Should see big difference by the end of the year. Lots of work going on at Tilbury which will be shipped up by barge and lifted into place by 460 ton crane.
Looks like something that when completed we will all be proud of.
Here's the link: https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/october/October-Riverside-Update/
Excellent video.
Good to see [at c.3.30] a large barge being moored alongside. Presumably full of apologies from those who were adament that the thing would never get off the ground.
The project manager on the video seems a most impressive bloke.
A challenging, multi-facetted job. Wonder what he's doing when it's finished.
Yes good video. Fantastic investment by the Khan family. Building a legacy 👍
Initially thought how can you spend 100 mill on a stand?Can see now why.Very impressive structure bloody massive.
Good picture also on the OFFAL, looks like we are building the equivalent of the Forth Bridge for the 21st century,
Can't wait to visit again after all the crap.
Quote from: cmg on October 20, 2020, 08:56:09 PM
Excellent video.
Good to see [at c.3.30] a large barge being moored alongside. Presumably full of apologies from those who were adament that the thing would never get off the ground.
The project manager on the video seems a most impressive bloke.
A challenging, multi-facetted job. Wonder what he's doing when it's finished.
My hat is ready to be eaten - needs some seasoning to make it edible
With bad weather normally arrives to London from the west over the Thames this new higher construction will shelter the rest of the Cottage well. It's a tuff time waiting surely..
Superb video & interview. Just shows what a daunting task the project is. Certainly not an Ikea flatpack like some other new stands.
If they are not ready August 2021, I wonder how they will deal with ST holders moving them back to the Riverside stand mid season ....
Looking good, and the delay does not bother me. Can't wait to get back to the Cottage.
Never doubted ths Khan's would see this through, turning out to be good owners!
Really interesting stuff in the video from Andrew Mackintosh, with lots of snippets concerning the logistics of moving stuff from Tilbury to Craven Cottage such as the need to have tides that offer the necessary height under the bridges. For that reason alone the project is a serious engineering feat given Craven Cottage's somewhat unique location. It is already looking impressive in its skeletal stage and doesn't seem to be lagging too far behind schedule given the innovation the Project Manager and his team has introduced.
Quote from: G_Gribby on October 21, 2020, 08:38:12 AM
With bad weather normally arrives to London from the west over the Thames this new higher construction will shelter the rest of the Cottage well. It's a tuff time waiting surely..
Now we have no Norwegian players born north of the Artic Circle it is a good time to keep the squad toasty.
Quote from: toshes mate on October 21, 2020, 10:33:38 AM
Really interesting stuff in the video from Andrew Mackintosh, with lots of snippets concerning the logistics of moving stuff from Tilbury to Craven Cottage such as the need to have tides that offer the necessary height under the bridges. For that reason alone the project is a serious engineering feat given Craven Cottage's somewhat unique location. It is already looking impressive in its skeletal stage and doesn't seem to be lagging too far behind schedule given the innovation the Project Manager and his team has introduced.
Can't wait to see the documentary Extreme Engineering on Discovery Channel
Quote from: mrmicawbers on October 21, 2020, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on October 21, 2020, 10:33:38 AM
Really interesting stuff in the video from Andrew Mackintosh, with lots of snippets concerning the logistics of moving stuff from Tilbury to Craven Cottage such as the need to have tides that offer the necessary height under the bridges. For that reason alone the project is a serious engineering feat given Craven Cottage's somewhat unique location. It is already looking impressive in its skeletal stage and doesn't seem to be lagging too far behind schedule given the innovation the Project Manager and his team has introduced.
Can't wait to see the documentary Extreme Engineering on Discovery Channel
Coming to the Fulham shop in 2022, just in time for father's day.
The days of those sitting in the Johnny Haynes getting dazzled by the setting sun will truly be over! What a monstrous erection !
I expect the groundsman will be worrying about whether the grass will grow in the shade!
Quote from: HamsterWheel on October 21, 2020, 01:42:17 PM
The days of those sitting in the Johnny Haynes getting dazzled by the setting sun will truly be over! What a monstrous erection !
As the actress said to the bishop.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on October 21, 2020, 01:42:17 PM
The days of those sitting in the Johnny Haynes getting dazzled by the setting sun will truly be over! What a monstrous erection !
Ooooooh Errrrrrrrr Mrs
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on October 21, 2020, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on October 21, 2020, 01:42:17 PM
The days of those sitting in the Johnny Haynes getting dazzled by the setting sun will truly be over! What a monstrous erection !
Ooooooh Errrrrrrrr Mrs
I didn't see. Is he able to brag? :022:
Quote from: cmg on October 20, 2020, 08:56:09 PM
Excellent video.
Good to see [at c.3.30] a large barge being moored alongside. Presumably full of apologies from those who were adament that the thing would never get off the ground.
The project manager on the video seems a most impressive bloke.
A challenging, multi-facetted job. Wonder what he's doing when it's finished.
I see the PM's name is Andrew Macintosh.
Surely not another bit of nepotism.👺😄
At least we have one positive with this development. Been said a few times, just would like it bumped back to the 1st page.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on October 20, 2020, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Chestfield John on October 20, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
This was the dates given to FST
RIVERSIDE STAND PROGRESS
Whilst supporters can see progress of the Riverside Stand demolition progressing match by match, many have requested an update on next steps. The Trust asked for an overview of the main phases of the project and the Club provided the following summary with estimated dates. These dates were recently discussed with local residents at an open information session.
Phased demolition of old stand – underway, completion December 2019
New river wall and walkway piling – underway, completion early 2020
Putney Stand substructures and piling – underway
Putney Stand steel erection – commences November 2019
Basement excavation (18,000 m3) – commences January 2020
Basement piling – February 2020 to March 2020
River deck construction – November 2019 to February 2020
Steel erection – April 2020 to October 2020
Internal mechanical / electrical works – April 2020 to March 2021
Glazing – commences May 2020
Pre-cast concrete terracing – June 2020 to October 2020
Steel roof trusses lifted in – July 2020 to October 2020
Fit out – March 2020 to July 2021
Based on this, we're months and months behind!
I am pretty sure we are a month (or two) from starting electrical works, glazing or pre-cast concrete terracing. So we are a least six months behind, but the fit-out in planned to take 9 months which could be shortened if required.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on October 21, 2020, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on October 21, 2020, 01:42:17 PM
The days of those sitting in the Johnny Haynes getting dazzled by the setting sun will truly be over! What a monstrous erection !
Ooooooh Errrrrrrrr Mrs
Cor look at you Frankie Howard.😋
Wouldn't surprise me if the stand opened with a fair few of the internals still to do. If the basics are there to start bringing in revenue, then a couple of bars or lounges unfinished won't stop it.
Quote from: colham on October 26, 2020, 07:01:46 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if the stand opened with a fair few of the internals still to do. If the basics are there to start bringing in revenue, then a couple of bars or lounges unfinished won't stop it.
The current plan is aiming that way, get the seats and facilities for them sorted and the fit out behind the stand comes after.
With us playing at home tomorrow, at least we should be able to see more progress here.
Quote from: MJG on October 26, 2020, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: colham on October 26, 2020, 07:01:46 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if the stand opened with a fair few of the internals still to do. If the basics are there to start bringing in revenue, then a couple of bars or lounges unfinished won't stop it.
The current plan is aiming that way, get the seats and facilities for them sorted and the fit out behind the stand comes after.
Fitting out beyond a shell depends also on which restaurants etc. are taking tenancies, which is another schedule liable to have been delayed.
Quote from: Ronnief on October 21, 2020, 04:44:20 PM
I expect the groundsman will be worrying about whether the grass will grow in the shade!
Why?
Like most clubs we use artificial light rigs that can be moved around the pitch
Quote from: b+w geezer on November 01, 2020, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: MJG on October 26, 2020, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: colham on October 26, 2020, 07:01:46 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if the stand opened with a fair few of the internals still to do. If the basics are there to start bringing in revenue, then a couple of bars or lounges unfinished won't stop it.
The current plan is aiming that way, get the seats and facilities for them sorted and the fit out behind the stand comes after.
Fitting out beyond a shell depends also on which restaurants etc. are taking tenancies, which is another schedule liable to have been delayed.
Covid testing centre?
A couple of shots of the rebuild during last nights full recording of the match by Sky when the ball was kicked into the stand and although dark it appeared that good progress had been made since the last photos appeared on this site.
Hopefully the lockdown will not hinder things too much.
Quote from: sarnian on November 03, 2020, 06:35:55 PM
A couple of shots of the rebuild during last nights full recording of the match by Sky when the ball was kicked into the stand and although dark it appeared that good progress had been made since the last photos appeared on this site.
Hopefully the lockdown will not hinder things too much.
they said last night that it was hoping to be ready for next season, might have even said the start of it.find that a little difficult to believe due to how far we seem to be behind
Quote from: fulhamben on November 03, 2020, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: sarnian on November 03, 2020, 06:35:55 PM
A couple of shots of the rebuild during last nights full recording of the match by Sky when the ball was kicked into the stand and although dark it appeared that good progress had been made since the last photos appeared on this site.
Hopefully the lockdown will not hinder things too much.
they said last night that it was hoping to be ready for next season, might have even said the start of it.find that a little difficult to believe due to how far we seem to be behind
There might be a way of them opening the stand for supporters whilst still working on the pier or swimming pool etc
From what I saw of the stand on Monday, not a lot more has happened over the last couple of weeks?
The way they were talking in the most recent video we should start seeing the stand fly up.They may have struggled recently with the high winds and not being able to use the cranes could be the excuse.
I'll take some pictures tomorrow. Not much big difference, except that it's progressing towards the Hammersmith End.
Quote from: _Putney_ on November 05, 2020, 03:32:31 PM
I'll take some pictures tomorrow. Not much big difference, except that it's progressing towards the Hammersmith End.
That's great, look forward to seeing them .
Full Album:
https://imgur.com/a/5AkPi8o
Highlights:
(https://i.imgur.com/H44fyQe.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KO2pxUl.jpeg)
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Great work Putney
We have been season ticket holders for many years but don't live in the UK so the only way we can keep up to date is with pictures like yours. Keep them coming and hears hoping to be sitting in the new stand sooner rather than later 082.gif 049:gif
thanks for posting, looking great, and will definitely help keep the sun off my eyes when I return back to my seat in JH.
Although perhaps worth starting a new Post next time to avoid having to scroll through the pages.
Cheers Putney
Really impressive set of photos _Putney_ giving a real sense of the scale of the stand. The full set of pictures is worth the visit. Thank you.
Quote from: J17 on November 06, 2020, 02:31:52 PM
thanks for posting, looking great, and will definitely help keep the sun off my eyes when I return back to my seat in JH.
Although perhaps worth starting a new Post next time to avoid having to scroll through the pages.
You don't have to scroll through all the pages, you simply click the last thread page, and it will take you to the most recent post. All Riverside Development updates are kept in this thread to keep them in one place, there won't be a new one created.
Thanks Putney, good to see the progress and looking forward to your next pictures.
Thanks Putney! Though now it's just hit me, I'm wondering if I'll ever see Fulham play with the stand before I move to Canada!
When I come back to visit, no doubt I'll make sure I schedule it on a weekend we're playing a home game.
Excellent photos.
No problem everyone!
Just seen this one Twitter:
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Part of the Riverside stand at Tilbury getting prepared to be shipped over to Fulham by barge
The statue is supposed to be gorgeous George Cohen but the sculptor apparently worked from a picture of Bobby Moore. I guess it kills two birds, as Bobby was one of our FA cup final heroes.
Quote from: millsy on November 06, 2020, 08:30:44 PM
The statue is supposed to be gorgeous George Cohen but the sculptor apparently worked from a picture of Bobby Moore. I guess it kills two birds, as Bobby was one of our FA cup final heroes.
I was hoping they'd finally returned the Michael Jackson statue to its rightful place!
What a lovely building this is going to be.
Thank you so much for the gorgeous pics.
Do you think spectators will be allowed back into stadiums before the stand is complete? Am I right in saying the intended finish date for the build is before the start of the 2021-2022 season?
Thanks for the picturer, can't wait fot the next ones.
This stand is looking like the nearest thing on the Thames to the Forth Bridge.
Great night photo, this is an impressive engineering project the logistics alone are amazing . Really hope theres a documentary made about its construction .
If they turned it through 90 degrees and cantilevered it over the river.
They could use the structure to replace the Hammersmith Bridge is falling down
Thanks Putney - great photos.
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Great photo, just shows the scale of the operation. Can't wait to sit in the new stand hopefully still in the premiership.
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https://twitter.com/sdcoote/status/1328289366498742276
The river very high , looking like a mill pond, beautiful
Coming on isn't it, can't wait to get back to the Cottage. COYW
https://twitter.com/JoeCham1995/status/1329109153210650624?s=20
That's going to be one of the best views from any ground anywhere in the world, a Fulham game and a view over most of London.
Looking at these latest pics and with my acrophobia I may just have to stick with my seat in the enclosure. :005: 092.gif
Quote from: Southdowns White on November 19, 2020, 12:20:32 PM
That's going to be one of the best views from any ground anywhere in the world, a Fulham game and a view over most of London.
Are you suggesting you might be distracted from matters on the pitch? :003:
Quote from: JimOG on November 19, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: Southdowns White on November 19, 2020, 12:20:32 PM
That's going to be one of the best views from any ground anywhere in the world, a Fulham game and a view over most of London.
Are you suggesting you might be distracted from matters on the pitch? :003:
Only if we go back to classic sideways, backwards Parkerball again!
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Looks great but a hell of a lot to be done. Cannot see it being ready until 2023 unfortunately.
Quote from: sarnian on November 20, 2020, 02:21:59 AM
Looks great but a hell of a lot to be done. Cannot see it being ready until 2023 unfortunately.
It was only supposed to be a two year project in the first place, so I can't see it taking another two and a half years from now.
Would be interested to see a revised projected timetable
Quote from: Statto on November 20, 2020, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: sarnian on November 20, 2020, 02:21:59 AM
Looks great but a hell of a lot to be done. Cannot see it being ready until 2023 unfortunately.
It was only supposed to be a two year project in the first place, so I can't see it taking another two and a half years from now.
Would be interested to see a revised projected timetable
Much of the difficult part of the project has been achieved.Don't worry Chaps all be done before Christmas.
Quote from: Statto on November 20, 2020, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: sarnian on November 20, 2020, 02:21:59 AM
Looks great but a hell of a lot to be done. Cannot see it being ready until 2023 unfortunately.
It was only supposed to be a two year project in the first place, so I can't see it taking another two and a half years from now.
Would be interested to see a revised projected timetable
I've put that very question forward to the F.S.T for their last 3 meetings with the club, for some unknown reason it's yet to be asked.
In the latest pictures by Friendsoffulham...
The second image is a bit concerning as where the seating area ends, there's then a concrete walkway, though this is still 20-30m from the side of the pitch. Or am I getting things wrong and that walkway is only there temporarily and the seating will be continued downwards towards the pitch?
Looking impressive. I best start saving as promised the whole family a match on me when open...
The original program for steelwork erection was April 20 to October 20.
We started late August / early September.
So this means we are approximately 5 months behind schedule.
The original completion date was July 2021 so it looks like a new date of around end December 2021 for completion is best guess at this stage.
Quote from: Jim© on November 20, 2020, 10:31:41 AM
In the latest pictures by Friendsoffulham...
The second image is a bit concerning as where the seating area ends, there's then a concrete walkway, though this is still 20-30m from the side of the pitch. Or am I getting things wrong and that walkway is only there temporarily and the seating will be continued downwards towards the pitch?
Looking impressive. I best start saving as promised the whole family a match on me when open...
The pictures we are seeing is the upper tier of the stand. If you look at the artists impression on the official Fulham website you will see there will be about 10 rows of lower seating which would appear to be where the temporary walkway is. I am not sure if the dugouts will be infont of the lower tier of seating or if the pitch may be moved across a bit and the dugouts moved to the Johnny Haynes Stand.
When I mentioned 2023 above I was meaning I cannot see the stand being open until the 2022 - 2023 season. This season does not finish until May so no work can be done where the temporary dugouts and tv cameras are until the season is over. There does not seem anyway things will be completed before next Christmas and the finished article then has to pass all sorts of safety certificates before spectators will be allowed.
Quote from: Jim© on November 20, 2020, 10:31:41 AM
In the latest pictures by Friendsoffulham...
The second image is a bit concerning as where the seating area ends, there's then a concrete walkway, though this is still 20-30m from the side of the pitch. Or am I getting things wrong and that walkway is only there temporarily and the seating will be continued downwards towards the pitch?
Looking impressive. I best start saving as promised the whole family a match on me when open...
I thought that were the bottom smaller terrace is going to be Jim.I did notice the steel work for it at the beginning can't see it now though.Have the taken it down and put the road in?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 20, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
I thought that were the bottom smaller terrace is going to be Jim.I did notice the steel work for it at the beginning can't see it now though.Have the taken it down and put the road in?
Yeah, i thought i saw a lower section too, but wondered whether that was just to hold that walkway.
I'm sure that they're making use of every square inch, so that's why i wondered what was going to fill the gap.
I am simply amazed at how well the project has progressed given the trials and tribulations of 2020. I wouldn't like to wager when the development will be ready for safety inpections etc., but I am deeply impressed with the Project Manager's reliability of prediction from his update some weeks ago given that so much of the work has to be done with the temporary media gantry in place and perhaps giving us a less clear picture of what things will look like once it is time for it to be removed.
Thanks again to all who have contributed the photos etc.
With Lockdown keeping us all away from the Cottage would it not make sense to play our home games at Motspur Park and thus stop any interuption to the work at the Cottage.
I cannot get over how high the construction is - looking down from the top, it towers over the other stands. Just hope we can fill it and that Shad Kahn has plans for further development in the future. First, of course, we have to stay in the PL
Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 20, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: Jim© on November 20, 2020, 10:31:41 AM
In the latest pictures by Friendsoffulham...
The second image is a bit concerning as where the seating area ends, there's then a concrete walkway, though this is still 20-30m from the side of the pitch. Or am I getting things wrong and that walkway is only there temporarily and the seating will be continued downwards towards the pitch?
Looking impressive. I best start saving as promised the whole family a match on me when open...
I thought that were the bottom smaller terrace is going to be Jim.I did notice the steel work for it at the beginning can't see it now though.Have the taken it down and put the road in?
Theres still the lower section to do. The cranes & other machinery are on a temporary raised access platform built above it.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on November 20, 2020, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 20, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: Jim© on November 20, 2020, 10:31:41 AM
In the latest pictures by Friendsoffulham...
The second image is a bit concerning as where the seating area ends, there's then a concrete walkway, though this is still 20-30m from the side of the pitch. Or am I getting things wrong and that walkway is only there temporarily and the seating will be continued downwards towards the pitch?
Looking impressive. I best start saving as promised the whole family a match on me when open...
I thought that were the bottom smaller terrace is going to be Jim.I did notice the steel work for it at the beginning can't see it now though.Have the taken it down and put the road in?
Theres still the lower section to do. The cranes & other machinery are on a temporary raised access platform built above it.
[/quotit That would explain it HW.Must be pretty robust but thinking about it I seem to remember some serious steels on that level and wondered what that was about at the time.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 20, 2020, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on November 20, 2020, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 20, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: Jim© on November 20, 2020, 10:31:41 AM
In the latest pictures by Friendsoffulham...
The second image is a bit concerning as where the seating area ends, there's then a concrete walkway, though this is still 20-30m from the side of the pitch. Or am I getting things wrong and that walkway is only there temporarily and the seating will be continued downwards towards the pitch?
Looking impressive. I best start saving as promised the whole family a match on me when open...
I thought that were the bottom smaller terrace is going to be Jim.I did notice the steel work for it at the beginning can't see it now though.Have the taken it down and put the road in?
Theres still the lower section to do. The cranes & other machinery are on a temporary raised access platform built above it.
[/quotit That would explain it HW.Must be pretty robust but thinking about it I seem to remember some serious steels on that level and wondered what that was about at the time.
I was wondering that myself about how sturdy it would have to be to support the weight of some of that plant. Think the project manager mentioned in that update video a few week's back
Looking back at photos from August and artists sketches on the offal it would appear that the upper tier is composed of two sections. The August photos show about 6 rows of seats at a slightly inclined angle which must be ten to twelve foot off the ground and this has now been covered up to provide a walkway and area for the crane to operate. This area is still well back from the pitch.
The November photos show the rest of the upper tier at a much steeper incline. It can be seen that at the front of these current photos they are constructing the exits and steps to leave the stand. It would appear that there will be a walkway between the front six seats and the steeper upper tier seats. This is also how it appears in the sketches on the offal.
Obviously the lower stand seats of about 10 rows cannot be constructed until the season is finished as this is the area currently being used for the managers, coaches and subs and the TV crews.
Can this lower build be done in 3 months or are the club going to have to move some games to complete the stand.
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Quote from: Baston White on November 20, 2020, 10:36:44 AM
The original program for steelwork erection was April 20 to October 20.
We started late August / early September.
So this means we are approximately 5 months behind schedule.
The original completion date was July 2021 so it looks like a new date of around end December 2021 for completion is best guess at this stage.
Agreed, but..... Much depends on what they originally had in mind by that 'finishing' date. If it included both sides of the structure, inclusive of fitting out of the river-facing restaurants, bars, etc. they were leasing, then finishing those works 5 months late has no implications for having people watch football.
Given Covid, it wouldn't amaze either (or be a disgrace) if they haven't yet found tenants for the those spaces anyway, in which case there is nothing to divert attention currently from the pitch-facing side and some catch-up there may be possible as a result.
With the steelworks and roof completed (by early spring?), seats could be added within a few weeks, that's easy-peasy. And then with functioning toilets and even basic catering facilities, they could accommodate spectators at levels of comfort even then superior to the other three sides of the ground -- luxury lounges and whatever to follow a.s.a.p. -- and the river-facing stuff in its time. So if that's what the club would settle for on Matchday One (in circumstances no-one could have foreseen) it may still be on.
Quote from: b+w geezer on November 21, 2020, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Baston White on November 20, 2020, 10:36:44 AM
The original program for steelwork erection was April 20 to October 20.
We started late August / early September.
So this means we are approximately 5 months behind schedule.
The original completion date was July 2021 so it looks like a new date of around end December 2021 for completion is best guess at this stage.
Agreed, but..... Much depends on what they originally had in mind by that 'finishing' date. If it included both sides of the structure, inclusive of fitting out of the river-facing restaurants, bars, etc. they were leasing, then finishing those works 5 months late has no implications for having people watch football.
Given Covid, it wouldn't amaze either (or be a disgrace) if they haven't yet found tenants for the those spaces anyway, in which case there is nothing to divert attention currently from the pitch-facing side and some catch-up there may be possible as a result.
With the steelworks and roof completed (by early spring?), seats could be added within a few weeks, that's easy-peasy. And then with functioning toilets and even basic catering facilities, they could accommodate spectators at levels of comfort even then superior to the other three sides of the ground -- luxury lounges and whatever to follow a.s.a.p. -- and the river-facing stuff in its time. So if that's what the club would settle for on Matchday One (in circumstances no-one could have foreseen) it may still be on.
The problem would be the issuing of safety certificates without the whole stand being completed. Just look at the problems Spuds had in getting their certificates having to constantly delay opening and they had completed their build.
Quote from: sarnian on November 21, 2020, 05:09:08 PM
The problem would be the issuing of safety certificates without the whole stand being completed. Just look at the problems Spuds had in getting their certificates having to constantly delay opening and they had completed their build.
Here's a question. If you enter the finalised new structure at riverside path level, then will that give you access (direct or indirect) to the football seating? Or will the entrances/exits to and from the football seating be kept apart and sealed off from those of the river-facing bars etc ('Fulham Pier'). The answer to that Q. has a bearing on the degree of parallel with the Spurs case, or indeed any other stadium that springs to mind. Would be interested to hear.
Quote from: b+w geezer on November 21, 2020, 06:34:04 PM
Quote from: sarnian on November 21, 2020, 05:09:08 PM
The problem would be the issuing of safety certificates without the whole stand being completed. Just look at the problems Spuds had in getting their certificates having to constantly delay opening and they had completed their build.
Here's a question. If you enter the finalised new structure at riverside path level, then will that give you access (direct or indirect) to the football seating? Or will the entrances/exits to and from the football seating be kept apart and sealed off from those of the river-facing bars etc ('Fulham Pier'). The answer to that Q. has a bearing on the degree of parallel with the Spurs case, or indeed any other stadium that springs to mind. Would be interested to hear.
It's a good question. I also wonder how much of the river path level outlets is going to be available to supporters on a matchday. I'm looking at the skeleton going up & with the roof terrace it's on seven levels, the upper levels look to be cramped for concourse room. I'm guessing the first floor & basement are where the main hospitality facilities will be housed. Got a bad feeling your average fan isn't going to be accommodated, did have some hope of a supporters type bar/pub but can't see that
I did ask one of the Fellas who organises the Corporate at Fulham about using the facilities if your not bought a ticket In the new stand and he was under the impression that you couldn't.Not sure about the bars and restaurants that may be open on the riverside walk.With regard to the roof terrace there does seem to have more space above the apartments.I hope they do as I plan to check it out when we can.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on November 21, 2020, 07:51:01 PM
I also wonder how much of the river path level outlets is going to be available to supporters on a matchday
The naming and marketing of 'Fulham Pier' make no reference to the other side of the structure, and my working assumption (not belied by what the pics imply, in your reading either) is that the two will be hermetically sealed from each other.
A pre- or post-match visit to one of the places on Fulham Pier may well be possible, but only in the same way as to any other local joint. A bar on the 'Pier' will be quicker to reach after the final whistle than the Crabtree, say, but you'll still need to exit the football stadium first. And any facilities you can access from your seat will in turn be inaccessible from outside the stadium.
That's how I'm reading it till informed otherwise anyway. And if that really is the case then.....well, you'd not be prevented from holding a match because the Crabtree was an empty shell. Would the situation here differ for stadium licensing purposes? It's a genuine question as I absolutely don't know the score!
I am led to believe that only football supporters will be allowed in while matches are going on. The walkway will be closed and only fans, flat residents and amenities staff will be allowed in and during this time restaurants and bars will not be open to the general public.
Perhaps the question can be asked at the next meeting with the club.
Quote from: sarnian on November 21, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
I am led to believe that only football supporters will be allowed in while matches are going on. The walkway will be closed and only fans, flat residents and amenities staff will be allowed in and during this time restaurants and bars will not be open to the general public.
Perhaps the question can be asked at the next meeting with the club.
This is exactly as I understand it.
Quote from: Riversider on November 21, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
Quote from: sarnian on November 21, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
I am led to believe that only football supporters will be allowed in while matches are going on. The walkway will be closed and only fans, flat residents and amenities staff will be allowed in and during this time restaurants and bars will not be open to the general public.
Perhaps the question can be asked at the next meeting with the club.
This is exactly as I understand it.
the walkway will be shut on match day, this is from the planning application
The Walkway
A major benefit of the project is the creation of a public riverside walkway, providing an important part of the Thames Path. The walkway will be between c. 6m and 11m wide. The route will be accessible from the north (Stevenage Park) and south (Bishops Park) and will be open to the public. It will only be closed for a limited time prior to, during and following football matches
at the stadium and when Bishops Park is closed. The proposals do not develop beyond the river line established by the consented 2013 river walkway. As part of the work, the river wall that is in poor condition will be replaced with a new vertical wall; this will follow the same line as the approved 2013 river wall.
Thanks for those clarifications, very interesting. (Bit of a lost business opportunity for Fulham Pier).
Still, if it's not merely (as I'd supposed) that you cannot access the walkway directly from the stadium, but that you cannot do so at all on matchdays, it seems even less likely a stadium certificate must await the Pier being being finished.
Quote from: b+w geezer on November 22, 2020, 12:57:25 AM
Thanks for those clarifications, very interesting. (Bit of a lost business opportunity for Fulham Pier).
Still, if it's not merely (as I'd supposed) that you cannot access the walkway directly from the stadium, but that you cannot do so at all on matchdays, it seems even less likely a stadium certificate must await the Pier being being finished.
not with you here, the walkway will be closed on match days as it will still be required for entrance to the riverside stand itself. So it will most definitely needed to be finished to get a stadium cert.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 22, 2020, 01:36:18 AM
not with you here, the walkway will be closed on match days as it will still be required for entrance to the riverside stand itself. So it will most definitely needed to be finished to get a stadium cert.
Your reading is that some access to and from the stadium interior will be from Fulham Pier, this being defined as the stretch of walkway immediately behind the new structure. If that is the case, then yes, that will bear on stadium licensing.
I have surmised no turnstiles/exits at walkway level on that stretch, either directly or via any of the bars etc. (As posted earlier). So that's really what it pivots on. If you or anyone else is sure to the contrary then that clinches the matter, safety certicate dependence follows as you say, and both sides will be liable to need finishing prior to occupation of the seating. And in turn, that probably won't be possible till a year or so from now.
Issues are now much clearer. Just need definite knowledge on the entry/exit situation -- which someone out there (maybe you) will surely have, but I don't -- I've just been surmising.
Quote from: b+w geezer on November 22, 2020, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on November 22, 2020, 01:36:18 AM
not with you here, the walkway will be closed on match days as it will still be required for entrance to the riverside stand itself. So it will most definitely needed to be finished to get a stadium cert.
Your reading is that some access to and from the stadium interior will be from Fulham Pier, this being defined as the stretch of walkway immediately behind the new structure. If that is the case, then yes, that will bear on stadium licensing.
I have surmised no turnstiles/exits at walkway level on that stretch, either directly or via any of the bars etc. (As posted earlier). So that's really what it pivots on. If you or anyone else is sure to the contrary then that clinches the matter, safety certicate dependence follows as you say, and both sides will be liable to need finishing prior to occupation of the seating. And in turn, that probably won't be possible till a year or so from now.
Issues are now much clearer. Just need definite knowledge on the entry/exit situation -- which someone out there (maybe you) will surely have, but I don't -- I've just been surmising.
not sure on turnstiles but the exits will be there. And you will surely have to use the walkway to actually get to the seats, much the same as you do now or there would be too much of a bottle neck to get a fire safety cert
I was under the impression that the turnstiles,exits were from both bishops park ant the the other end of the stand were the walkwaywill be opened up.
And if you look at the application you can see the air flow diagram, which shows air going to and from walkway into the stand at the walkway level, that can only be obtained by the various gaps all down the stand where the acces from walkway to the seats are
You may be right, FulhamBen and I absolutely don't know for sure (and am listening out for someone who does), but any exits onto Fulham Pier would be a commercially wasteful use of river frontage that could be leased to tenants, so one can be confident at least that the design brief would have been to avoid this if possible.
(As for walkways to the seats, aren't they present within the structure?) It would be surprising if nobody knows for sure about these things, so hopefully certainty will emerge, even if delayed by other FFC preoccupations today!
Quote from: b+w geezer on November 22, 2020, 10:48:28 AM
You may be right, FulhamBen and I absolutely don't know for sure (and am listening out for someone who does), but any exits onto Fulham Pier would be a commercially wasteful use of river frontage that could be leased to tenants, so one can be confident at least that the design brief would have been to avoid this if possible.
(As for walkways to the seats, aren't they present within the structure?) It would be surprising if nobody knows for sure about these things, so hopefully certainty will emerge, even if delayed by other FFC preoccupations today!
im not sure we are on about the same thing. The exits will be the gate that comes across to close the walkway on match days. Pretty much like the gate in the corner of the hammy and riverside now, that they use for an exit at the end of a match. And yes there will be at a guess around 5 or more gaps all down the length of the stand probably about 3 meters wide In between bars/shops to allow people to get from walkway to seats, much the same is it was in the old riverside stand. Best way to Omaha one it is it is basically the same as the old stand but the walkway now goes into the park
Thanks Ben, you have addressed all queries, the key one being about those 5 or so gaps at walkway level between the bars/shops, which lead tofrom the stadium interior. Impossible to spot their presence (or absence!) in the artists' impression but I guess you are going by submitted architects' plans, in which case that's definitive and everything follows about being unable to open the stand on schedule.
Some time it would be great to be given a link the relevant drawing. I know it must be out there somewhere on the borough's planning website, but so is an awful lot else! Meanwhile, to you and anyone else reading this -- enjoy the game, notwithstanding the team selection!
Here you go mate, https://repo.images.fulhamfc.com/Craven-Cottage-Riverside-Stand-Planning-Summary-November-2017.pdf There's a plan quite far down that shows the route into the stand and it's def from the walkway.
Is the walkway through Bishops Park along the river being upgraded. Leaving the ground and walking along the river to Hammersmith was along a well paved area but the last time I walked through Bishops Park the path was in a very poor state with cracks and tree roots growing through.
Was part of the plan for Fulham having to upgrade the Bishops Park walkway.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 22, 2020, 11:34:11 AM
Here you go mate, https://repo.images.fulhamfc.com/Craven-Cottage-Riverside-Stand-Planning-Summary-November-2017.pdf There's a plan quite far down that shows the route into the stand and it's def from the walkway.
Many thanks; now downloaded and saved. You must be referring to printed page 8 (p.10/24 in the e-version). As you say, it shows exits/entrances, and there is reference to 'Riverside Walk.'
The only thing that puzzles me is where the Fulham Pier faciities feature in the plan. The area to the river side of the seating in the plan is described as 'concourse' and the facilities all seem geared to the football. Whereas I had thought they were leasing blank spaces that might be used a public restaurants and whatever. In that sense I am frankly flummoxed.
It would make more sense if the diagram referred to the level one above the walkway, which is also level with the foot of the main seating. And if you look at the sectional diagrams further up the page, this is actually imaginable.
Nertheless the key diagram is called 'Ground Floor', which implies at the level of the outside ground, added to which 'Riverside Walk' is labelled. So all that seems unambiguous and to be read as you have understandably done. As for what and where are the spaces they are letting out as Fulham Pier, however, I admit to not getting it, but fortunately nothing depends on my doing so :-)
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What a wonderful place the cottage is going to be. All due credit to the Khan family - terrific development for the club and the wider community and long term prosperity for the football club and the community. I can't wait to get back there !
Going to look like a lovely little stand😊
Every dayI go for a walk around the back of Hammersmith end sit on a bench by the river, the odd thing is this stand is going up fast, but I sit for about 30 minutes and there never seems to be anything going on, obviously there is but it seems so strange.
The poor old cottage looks so tiny against the new stand. An intriguing mix of the ultra modern and the classic.
Going up at a lively pace now it seems.Going by the look of it it is going to make me even more proud of the ground.
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Wow the view from bishops park!
These are the best photos yet, thanks for sharing.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 05, 2020, 07:44:22 PM
Wow the view from bishops park!
These are the best photos yet, thanks for sharing.
Brilliant - more please in time
Terrific- thank you. Really enjoying the updates.
The photo to take is from Greswell Street showing the new stand towering over The Johnny Haynes stand 049:gif
Wow, the pictures are dramatic.
Still surprised we obtained planning permission for something so overpowering in a residential are, I suspect the opening up of the Thames path was a key factor.
Wonder what it looks like from the other side on stevenage road. Backing down from on of the streets heading towards stevenage road rather. Be interesting to see where it becomes visible.
Quote from: filham on December 05, 2020, 10:14:01 PM
Wow, the pictures are dramatic.
Still surprised we obtained planning permission for something so overpowering in a residential are, I suspect the opening up of the Thames path was a key factor.
And, presumably creating hundreds of permanent jobs once we have a vaccine.
At the moment, it reminds me of when the blue lot down the road built their first large stand that dwarfed the others. Hopefully ours will be impressive in terms of scale & visual impact.
Thanks for sharing much appreciated.Is it just me but after seeing the latest photo's I have to have a look official mock up.It would seem to me there is more to be built at either end of the stand
Looking again it looks like the apartment aspect of the stand
Think I counted 13 flights of stairs. And thats just the part of the stand above ground level. As I'm sure we're putting facilities below water level ground?
Great to see it more fully taking shape. I know many of us wondered if it would ever get off the ground in the past, but it's good to see that Khan & Co have followed through on their promise to build it.
As for that shower down the road and their building efforts, like so many others, NOTHING will beat the view of this stand from across the Thames, nothing at all.
Perhaps the view of the pitch from the stand itself?
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amazing
Your'e right Putney, totally amazing.
Wonder what Tommy Trinder would have made of it??
"Gawd Blimey, how much?"
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Thanks so much for that, only was asking about a view from this angle this morning.
Quote from: Southdowns White on June 06, 2019, 04:19:29 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!
46 were from Knockaert
I wonder if the may start renovating the Johnny Haynes stand when the New Stand opens?Would make sense commercially as I'm sure as a season ticket holder there we would be potential targets for the Riverside.Just a thought.
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Quote from: Southdowns White on June 06, 2019, 04:19:29 PM
Apparently they have already dug up 47 old footballs, most of them from shots from our players that never hit the target!
46 were from Knockaert
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These photos are dramatic. I did not realize that the skyline would change this much. Not sure that I like it frankly. Changes the whole neighbourhood.
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on December 07, 2020, 05:32:14 PM
These photos are dramatic. I did not realize that the skyline would change this much. Not sure that I like it frankly. Changes the whole neighbourhood.
I do wonder how the residents in adjoining streets will react to the changing skyline.
The ground was there before most of the nearby properties were. If you don´t like being near a football ground don´t buy one there.
Quote from: grandad on December 07, 2020, 06:32:23 PM
The ground was there before most of the nearby properties were. If you don´t like being near a football ground don´t buy one there.
The ground was there but a whopping great big stand wasn't.
The stand when completed will not be the eyesore you see at present. At present it's just a building site but will look completely different from the road when finished.
It's not that gigantic, it doesn't even hold 9k. What a strange bunch we are. Moaning about everything. Looks better than the towering floodlights you see at amateur venues.
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on December 07, 2020, 05:32:14 PM
These photos are dramatic. I did not realize that the skyline would change this much. Not sure that I like it frankly. Changes the whole neighbourhood.
Don't get windy now, we are a Premiership team with Premiership ambitions. There will be more changes in the offing...... embrace it.
Its change that's all and not everyone can deal with that, the blocks of flats built next to Fulham could be considered an eyesore also but that's progress
Although the moaning from Fulham fans is weird imo.
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Quote from: Riversider on December 05, 2020, 10:12:17 PM
The photo to take is from Greswell Street showing the new stand towering over The Johnny Haynes stand 049:gif
Thanks to whoever provided it , I've been to visit the ground on half a dozen occasions, I guarantee those people that will be seeing it for the first time on Sunday will be left speechless,
Its truly stunning 😍,
Though the light pollution in the surrounding area will raise a few eyebrows im sure.
You'd think these residents of this highly desirable part of London, with flat and other buildings going up all the time, would be used to this sort of thing.
Great photos, thanks.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 07, 2020, 07:43:33 PM
It's not that gigantic, it doesn't even hold 9k. What a strange bunch we are. Moaning about everything. Looks better than the towering floodlights you see at amateur venues.
I took those pictures from the weekend. Trust me it's a seriously imposing structure, personally got no problems with that whatsoever. It gives the ground a new found sense of scale
I wouldn't go too much by the capacity though either. If it wasn't for the end blocks of apartments, etc it would probably hold about 1000-1500 more, also it's taller than stands with a similar capacity due to having to fit seven levels of facilities in what is still , despite the river reclamation, a pretty confined space. The top tier looks especially steep
It's always the same though, some people don't like change. As I said I think it looks magnificent, hope they're planning stuff at either end too
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When we had to change the club badge -x- number of years ago, why didn't we adopt this from the JH stand as the badge? Timeless and elegant.
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When we had to change the club badge -x- number of years ago, why didn't we adopt this from the JH stand as the badge? Timeless and elegant.
Probably because we could not copyright it ?
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on December 07, 2020, 05:32:14 PM
These photos are dramatic. I did not realize that the skyline would change this much. Not sure that I like it frankly. Changes the whole neighbourhood.
Yes, it does but it really sets off the traditional façade from that view. Surprisingly nice, I thought.
Wait until the roof is actually finished. I think it's part of the reason the design changed
Just a shame the late TT didn't take the chance to buy that plot of land where the flats are - we could have built our own 50 or 60 K all seater. That would have really pissed off the local nimbies
Quote from: shepperton white on December 08, 2020, 11:38:37 AM
Just a shame the late TT didn't take the chance to buy that plot of land where the flats are - we could have built our own 50 or 60 K all seater. That would have really pissed off the local nimbies
Reckon if we put new stands at Putney and Hammersmith we could maybe get up to the 35,000 plus which would be enough for us.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on December 06, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
Looking again it looks like the apartment aspect of the stand
In reply to myself lol.If I ha 've counted the stanchions correctly still more of the stand to go up at either end before the apartments go in.
Quote from: Holders on December 08, 2020, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on December 07, 2020, 05:32:14 PM
These photos are dramatic. I did not realize that the skyline would change this much. Not sure that I like it frankly. Changes the whole neighbourhood.
Yes, it does but it really sets off the traditional façade from that view. Surprisingly nice, I thought.
I love the old facade - every time I walk past it I look up in admiration at some of the many unique features.
What a ground. Can't wait to get back there
Quote from: mrmicawbers on December 08, 2020, 01:24:56 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on December 06, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
Looking again it looks like the apartment aspect of the stand
In reply to myself lol.If I ha 've counted the stanchions correctly still more of the stand to go up at either end before the apartments go in.
Correct. I think the Putney side will go up a lot later than the rest as that is the main land site access
Quote from: RoyTund on December 08, 2020, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on December 08, 2020, 01:24:56 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on December 06, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
Looking again it looks like the apartment aspect of the stand
In reply to myself lol.If I ha 've counted the stanchions correctly still more of the stand to go up at either end before the apartments go in.
I was told by a project engineer, that we're in the process of designing the other 3 stands. Putney, then Johnny Haynes + Hammersmith at the same time.. And with the corner filled in between Hammy end and Johnny Haynes stand adding 2200 seats alone. There will also be a new roof on all 3 stands, so no support pillars.
Exciting times indeed if that's correct FCF55.
Quote from: SP on December 08, 2020, 08:07:29 PM
Exciting times indeed if that's correct FCF55.
I'd like to be, don't quote me on this but we should
hear about it more next year.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 08, 2020, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: SP on December 08, 2020, 08:07:29 PM
Exciting times indeed if that's correct FCF55.
I'd like to be, don't quote me on this but we should
hear about it more next year.
Not going to be easy to do the Johnny Haynes. Listed building so Fulham would have to work with English Heritage. I know in Fayeds original scheme only the facade remained but I think? In later years the whole stand & Cottage are now listed ?
I heard there was some talk about putting a roof level of boxes/seats with a lounge at the back. The concourse is incredibly crowded as it is, it wasn't designed for thousands of people to go down & eat & drink. When it was built I'm guessing most stayed in their spot at halftime
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 08, 2020, 08:46:58 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 08, 2020, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: SP on December 08, 2020, 08:07:29 PM
Exciting times indeed if that's correct FCF55.
I'd like to be, don't quote me on this but we should
hear about it more next year.
Not going to be easy to do the Johnny Haynes. Listed building so Fulham would have to work with English Heritage. I know in Fayeds original scheme only the facade remained but I think? In later years the whole stand & Cottage are now listed ?
I heard there was some talk about putting a roof level of boxes/seats with a lounge at the back. The concourse is incredibly crowded as it is, it wasn't designed for thousands of people to go down & eat & drink. When it was built I'm guessing most stayed in their spot at halftime
I would assume you can do what you like with the inside of J H providing the facade not messed with God forbid.Could they maybe do what Rangers have with raising the roof there only better?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on December 08, 2020, 09:12:31 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 08, 2020, 08:46:58 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 08, 2020, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: SP on December 08, 2020, 08:07:29 PM
Exciting times indeed if that's correct FCF55.
I'd like to be, don't quote me on this but we should
hear about it more next year.
Not going to be easy to do the Johnny Haynes. Listed building so Fulham would have to work with English Heritage. I know in Fayeds original scheme only the facade remained but I think? In later years the whole stand & Cottage are now listed ?
I heard there was some talk about putting a roof level of boxes/seats with a lounge at the back. The concourse is incredibly crowded as it is, it wasn't designed for thousands of people to go down & eat & drink. When it was built I'm guessing most stayed in their spot at halftime
I would assume you can do what you like with the inside of J H providing the facade not messed with God forbid.Could they maybe do what Rangers have with raising the roof there only better?
Rangers main stand was originally twice the size of the Stevenage Road. With the club deck it now holds 21,000. They have a lot more room to play with & added two art deco wings for access. When they built the new addition it had to be completely different, they couldn't just do something in the old red brick Leitch style. It had to show contrast between the old & new
I've got mixed feelings about it. The JH is currently the best preserved Leitch stand left in Britain, I'm not really comfortable with adding to it. Rangers modernization of the old classic main stand has been universally praised but think it's a little sad tbh. Having said that I think if we are to have a ground that's not completely lopsided & offering modern facilities & convenience's it's inevitable that we'll have to look to do something with the JH.
It's a classic ,iconic football stand but as Simon Inglis once ruefully wrote about the ground in the 80s when the Cottage was being lined up to be demolished for a 4000 seater Putney end. There is no preservation only progress
They can do anything they like to the Putney and Hammy ends, they can fill the corner in too, but in my opinion to touch anything else with the JH stand and cottage....other than sympathetic restoration where needed would be sacralidge in my mind. I love the idea that many thousands of backsides have sat in the wooden seats over the years, love the way the stairway treads going up to the stand are worn away in the centres, it's querky, it's old and it's what makes me love to drive back into town from Bucks with my eldest brain-washed daughter to see our team play. So I'll go brand new for 70% of it but leave the listed parts well alone.
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Why apologise?
Quote from: _Putney_ on December 09, 2020, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Why apologise?
I don't know really, just seemed the right thing to do.
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Nope I think it looks embarrassing to be in the Premier League with a stand like the JH. Keep the external facade, perhaps 're use the wooden seats, but the roof and all those pillars don't fit in modern times.
Why keep the external facade? Doesn't fit with modern times in my opinion.
Quote from: _Putney_ on December 09, 2020, 12:59:22 PM
Why keep the external facade? Doesn't fit with modern times in my opinion.
I believe its lusted
Quote from: KJS on December 09, 2020, 01:05:02 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on December 09, 2020, 12:59:22 PM
Why keep the external facade? Doesn't fit with modern times in my opinion.
I believe its lusted
And I think it's Listed.
Doesn't fit in modern times
Is exactly why it is high up on many peoples nicest grounds. The problem with modern grounds based on "fitting in modern times" is that very often about 20 years later, they look a bit drab because times have moved on. Wembley being an example.
I happen to disagree with you
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
It's purpose is to let people watch a football match and the JH stand has been pretty good for that for 115 years. I have an electric car. Actually, I think it looks pretty good
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Nope I think it looks embarrassing to be in the Premier League with a stand like the JH. Keep the external facade, perhaps 're use the wooden seats, but the roof and all those pillars don't fit in modern times.
"embarrassing to be in the Premier League with a stand like the JH"??
Personally I think it is what some of the new identikit stadiums lack. You go to Cardiff, Southampton, new Plough lane, Brentfords new ground, they're all drab structures that look similar to one another. Walking around the outside on dull concrete walkways just doesn't give you the same feeling as wandering down Finlay St on matchday and seeing the redbrick stand nestled in amongst the houses.
There's a reason that it's continually voted fans' favourite ground.
BTW- Forest Green's new stadium will be interesting (a wooden structure!)
Could any kind tech-savvy contributor repost that brilliant video of Fulham (& many other) ground developments please. It was on here early in the year.
I think it showed that not all new grounds have to be Legolands but also the section showing the finished Fulham stand was brilliant.
Thanks
Part of the appeal of Craven Cottage is its uniqueness. In the 80's and 90's it wouldn't have been looked at twice but as old grounds get knocked down for monstrosities like Brentfords new stadium and stadiums that all look the same but with different colour seats CC will only continue to be on everyone's favourite ground lists. The new stand is equally unique and nothing like any other stand I've seen, that placed opposite the JH stand will only add to the personality of the place. I for one wouldn't be against the Hammersmith and Putney ends being developed but the JH stand should remain...... and as for it being and embarrassment..... not a chance.
Quote from: JimOG on December 09, 2020, 01:43:58 PM
Could any kind tech-savvy contributor repost that brilliant video of Fulham (& many other) ground developments please. It was on here early in the year.
I think it showed that not all new grounds have to be Legolands but also the section showing the finished Fulham stand was brilliant.
Thanks
I found this (ignore chipmonks!!) but it's not as good as the one posted on here earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkpPWGf2LUs
Just to clarify, I love the JH. :)
RE mrmicawbers comment on page 40 leaving only the fa-cade on the Johnny Haynes. I may be wrong but i seem to remember the wooden seats and turnstiles being included in the listing application. I believe every piece of land that qualified for listing was included to make it more difficult for potential developers. This, if i'm correct will make it more difficult to update the stand. Please someone correct me if i am wrong.
Quote from: Jambo on December 09, 2020, 02:03:28 PM
Part of the appeal of Craven Cottage is its uniqueness. In the 80's and 90's it wouldn't have been looked at twice but as old grounds get knocked down for monstrosities like Brentfords new stadium and stadiums that all look the same but with different colour seats CC will only continue to be on everyone's favourite ground lists. The new stand is equally unique and nothing like any other stand I've seen, that placed opposite the JH stand will only add to the personality of the place. I for one wouldn't be against the Hammersmith and Putney ends being developed but the JH stand should remain...... and as for it being and embarrassment..... not a chance.
I concur
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1079754
Location
Statutory Address:
GRANDSTAND AND TURNSTILES TO FULHAM FOOTBALL CLUB, STEVENAGE ROAD
The building or site itself may lie within the boundary of more than one authority.
County:
Greater London Authority
District:
Hammersmith and Fulham (London Borough)
National Grid Reference:
TQ 23650 76621
Details
TQ 2376 Stevenage Road (West Side)
9/45 Grandstand and turnstiles to Fulham Football Club GV II
Football club grandstand with turnstiles. Built in 1905 to the design of Archibald Leitch.
MATERIALS: Red brick façade with stone dressings; steel trussed roof (not visible from street)covered in corrugated iron.
PLAN: Long frontage to Stevenage Road with covered stand behind. 3 storey street frontage of 27 bays with single-storey attached turnstile blocks to the left and right of 9 and 8 bays respectively.
DESCRIPTION: Almost symmetrical composition with shaped gables to centre 3 bays and to bays 5 and 6 from either side. Arched windows to ground floor and paired exit doors beneath segmental arches; narrow square headed entrances at intervals. Square-headed mullioned windows in triplets to first floor with blind panels between bearing strapwork cartouches. Segmental-headed windows to third storey lighting stand to rear. Behind is a 2-tier stand with a pitched corrugated-iron roof carried on triangular steel trusses with curved lower chords. The front of the roof is cantilevered forward by means of a lateral lattice girder carrying an awning, supported on a series of lattice stanchions. The roof has a central triangular pediment. Upper tier of stand has original wooden seating; modern seating to lower tier. Tunnels lead to former changing rooms beneath.
HISTORY: Fulham FC was founded in 1879 and moved to its present site in 1896. Its popular name: 'Craven Cottage' alludes to an C18 cottage orné which once stood on the site.
SUMMARY OF IMPORTANCE: Of special interest as a well-preserved early surviving example of a football grandstand by Archibald Leitch (1866-1939), the foremost football stadium designer of the early C20. The façade is unusual in that it was a conscious attempt to give ornate treatment to a building type which was usually austere and functional.
SOURCES: English Heritage: Fulham Football Club, Historians' report, 1987; Simon Inglis: Football Grounds of Britain, 1996; Simon Inglis: Engineering Archie, 2005
Listing NGR: TQ2365076621
Legacy
The contents of this record have been generated from a legacy data system.
Legacy System number:
201946
Legacy System:
LBS
Sources
Books and journals
Inglis, S, Football Grounds of Britain, (1996)
Inglis, S, 'Played In Britain' in Engineering Archie Archibald Leitch Football Ground Designer, (2005)
Legal
This building is listed under the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 as amended for its special architectural or historic interest.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on December 09, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
It's purpose is to let people watch a football match and the JH stand has been pretty good for that for 115 years. I have an electric car. Actually, I think it looks pretty good
I have one too, and will have a second soon!
Who actually buys and sits in a stand knowing you're going to have a terrible view. 🤦♂️
Bar the people ahead of the pillars, some 3k+ behind are crazy imo. Would never sit there and never will. Bad enough in h6 h5 h4 and h3. Back in the days of being a poor student and putting up with that monstrosity of a pillar in the middle. But it was about getting behind the team vocally. The JH stand however, the fans are just spectators for 98% of the game. What's the point?
The JH Stand is one of the most beautiful and iconic structures in all of sports, not just football. Have you ever walked around Fenway Park in Boston? It is made of old 1911/12 era wood. It is uncomfortable, tight, awkward & full of strange odours. And yes, it is beautiful. Old can be beautifl and the JH stand is just that. I would be gutted if we ever did anything to change it's general appearance. And so would you if you are being honest.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on December 09, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
It's purpose is to let people watch a football match and the JH stand has been pretty good for that for 115 years. I have an electric car. Actually, I think it looks pretty good
I have one too, and will have a second soon!
Who actually buys and sits in a stand knowing you're going to have a terrible view. 🤦♂️
Bar the people ahead of the pillars, some 3k+ behind are crazy imo. Would never sit there and never will. Bad enough in h6 h5 h4 and h3. Back in the days of being a poor student and putting up with that monstrosity of a pillar in the middle. But it was about getting behind the team vocally. The JH stand however, the fans are just spectators for 98% of the game. What's the point?
You don't like its fine, but for others it means a lot more than the way you describe it. The point is the history, the view given all its quirks, being close to the cottage where I sit. Give me that rather than open to the elements bottom parts of the Hammersmith and Putney ends. I hope its the last part changed and given how long these things take, I'd say its safe for another 20 plus years.
Quote from: MJG on December 09, 2020, 05:58:22 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on December 09, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
It's purpose is to let people watch a football match and the JH stand has been pretty good for that for 115 years. I have an electric car. Actually, I think it looks pretty good
I have one too, and will have a second soon!
Who actually buys and sits in a stand knowing you're going to have a terrible view. 🤦♂️
Bar the people ahead of the pillars, some 3k+ behind are crazy imo. Would never sit there and never will. Bad enough in h6 h5 h4 and h3. Back in the days of being a poor student and putting up with that monstrosity of a pillar in the middle. But it was about getting behind the team vocally. The JH stand however, the fans are just spectators for 98% of the game. What's the point?
You don't like its fine, but for others it means a lot more than the way you describe it. The point is the history, the view given all its quirks, being close to the cottage where I sit. Give me that rather than open to the elements bottom parts of the Hammersmith and Putney ends. I hope its the last part changed and given how long these things take, I'd say its safe for another 20 plus years.
At least! Long live the Stevenage Road Stand.
I love J Haynes Heritage,but the down stairs part onthe stand needs be opened up.This can be done these days with steels holding everything up and still keeping what we are well some of us fond of,
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on December 09, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
It's purpose is to let people watch a football match and the JH stand has been pretty good for that for 115 years. I have an electric car. Actually, I think it looks pretty good
I have one too, and will have a second soon!
Who actually buys and sits in a stand knowing you're going to have a terrible view. 🤦♂️
Bar the people ahead of the pillars, some 3k+ behind are crazy imo. Would never sit there and never will. Bad enough in h6 h5 h4 and h3. Back in the days of being a poor student and putting up with that monstrosity of a pillar in the middle. But it was about getting behind the team vocally. The JH stand however, the fans are just spectators for 98% of the game. What's the point?
Unbelievable comments particularly coming from a Fulham fan.
We are so fortunate to have our ground. Craven Cottage and the JH stand are Fulham
Quote from: SG on December 09, 2020, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on December 09, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
The old wembley looked awful. I couldn't disagree more.
Otherwise. Lets all go back to horse's and carriages, because they have more Character than the new upcoming electric cars? Time to let go of some things, take a picture for keepsake.
It'll become not fit for purpose sooner than later (now imho)
It's purpose is to let people watch a football match and the JH stand has been pretty good for that for 115 years. I have an electric car. Actually, I think it looks pretty good
I have one too, and will have a second soon!
Who actually buys and sits in a stand knowing you're going to have a terrible view. 🤦♂️
Bar the people ahead of the pillars, some 3k+ behind are crazy imo. Would never sit there and never will. Bad enough in h6 h5 h4 and h3. Back in the days of being a poor student and putting up with that monstrosity of a pillar in the middle. But it was about getting behind the team vocally. The JH stand however, the fans are just spectators for 98% of the game. What's the point?
Unbelievable comments particularly coming from a Fulham fan.
We are so fortunate to have our ground. Craven Cottage and the JH stand are Fulham
[/quote You have obviously never sat in H Block in JH.You change your mind.
That comment wasn't for you SG.But to the poster who. Insinuated no noise came out of there.
I feel this thread has gone a stray as the original OP is about "Riverside Development Updates". Not arguments over the rest of the existing stadium. Which, I happen to love.
Personally I think it would be a shame to drastically change JH stand, however there are two areas I think should be updated. Firstly the roof a) because of the restricted view from upper level seats - when the ball gets hefted up in the air you need to wait 30 seconds to see where it reappears! and the staunchions add to the restricted views b) When sitting at front where the old standing area was, you get absolutely drowned in rainy weather; and despite what some are saying it is a little out of keeping with the rest of the other buildings. The other change I'd make is to the seats because not only are they bloody uncomfortable the are a considerable fire risk.
Quote from: shepperton white on December 10, 2020, 12:35:28 PM
Personally I think it would be a shame to drastically change JH stand, however there are two areas I think should be updated. Firstly the roof a) because of the restricted view from upper level seats - when the ball gets hefted up in the air you need to wait 30 seconds to see where it reappears! and the staunchions add to the restricted views b) When sitting at front where the old standing area was, you get absolutely drowned in rainy weather; and despite what some are saying it is a little out of keeping with the rest of the other buildings. The other change I'd make is to the seats because not only are they bloody uncomfortable the are a considerable fire risk.
But apart from that its perfect :54:
Can I say, over the years, that the restricted viewing within JH has afforded me welcome relief from many of dire episodes of play performed by my team.
No doubt the JH stand is in need of modernisation to provide extra comfort and better viewing. It should be possible to achieve this and retain the historic Stevenage Road facade and leave the Cottage untouched so that the ground retains its character.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 09, 2020, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Nope I think it looks embarrassing to be in the Premier League with a stand like the JH. Keep the external facade, perhaps 're use the wooden seats, but the roof and all those pillars don't fit in modern times.
Our ground is widely regarded as one of the best football grounds in the world (if not *the* best) and it's without doubt the single best thing about this club... and that ain't because of the Hammersmith, Putney or old Riverside stands.
One element of the JH needing an immediate upgrade are the victorian toilet facilities. One sink to wash your hands between 50 people is discussing even before Covid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo5rhhsWEAEAyIl?format=jpg&name=small)
I've travelled back tonight from London Bridge to Plantation Wharf (Battersea) by River, the ferry was travelling on to Putney,
When the new stand is complete and then it morphs into Fulham Pier does this mean the Thames Clipper will add it to its schedule?
The JH stand needs to stay as it is. No changes please. So many wonderful memories. I just wish we hadn't lost the enclosure. The humour and banter in that place is much missed together with the interaction with the players and the linesmen. My god they used to get a hard time but if they joined in with the banter they were usually forgiven pretty quickly. That stand epitomises everything Fulham - from the gentle wave of applause as the players jog off back to the cottage from their warm up to the forefather spirits who meet in one of the blocks to sort the club out whenever we hit a major crisis - see Dennis Turners History of Fulham book - The cottage and the JH/Stevenage road stand must stay forever - forever Fulham!
Quote from: Riversider on December 10, 2020, 09:11:04 PM
I've travelled back tonight from London Bridge to Plantation Wharf (Battersea) by River, the ferry was travelling on to Putney,
When the new stand is complete and then it morphs into Fulham Pier does this mean the Thames Clipper will add it to its schedule?
It will be very close to the existing Putney stop so I doubt it
Quote from: Statto on December 10, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
Quote from: Riversider on December 10, 2020, 09:11:04 PM
I've travelled back tonight from London Bridge to Plantation Wharf (Battersea) by River, the ferry was travelling on to Putney,
When the new stand is complete and then it morphs into Fulham Pier does this mean the Thames Clipper will add it to its schedule?
It will be very close to the existing Putney stop so I doubt it
But it will be on the opposite side of the river (north bank). If you look further downstream there are examples of stops that are close together, but on opposite banks: e.g. by Embankment tube and the Festival Hall or at London Bridge (Hays Wharf) and the Tower of London.
If there's an actual pier projecting into the river (and it may have to extend some way out given tidal flows, and the fact that it's on the inside bend of the river) then there could be scope for a stop. Perhaps a match-day only extension to the service...
Hmm. Just had a look at the Fulham Pier website. No sign of an actual pier projecting into the river.
So I guess that will be a no, then. Shame, as it would be fun to get the boat down from the West End/City on a matchday. A couple of beers on the way...
I presume that the logistics of a pier into the river made this a non-starter. it would have to be lengthy (given tidal flows) and would doubtless have interfered with the dinghy sailing and potentially other river traffic as well (not that there's any of that at the moment, with the river closed to all navigation at Hammersmith Bridge!)
I think even if there were a stop at Fulham you would have to wonder if a bunch of away fans would take it!? Could be problematic if it happened.
(https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/gallery/361443_11_12_20_4_36_38.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NJ3Q7lH.png)
Saw this on LinkedIn earlier. Saw the truss sitting outside the new stand on the river earlier going for a walk but didn't have my phone with me to take a picture!
Quote from: _Putney_ on December 12, 2020, 12:37:40 PM
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Saw this on LinkedIn earlier. Saw the truss sitting outside the new stand on the river earlier going for a walk but didn't have my phone with me to take a picture!
So, the truss was going for a walk ? :005:
Quote from: Fulham1959 on December 12, 2020, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on December 12, 2020, 12:37:40 PM
Saw this on LinkedIn earlier. Saw the truss sitting outside the new stand on the river earlier going for a walk but didn't have my phone with me to take a picture!
So, the truss was going for a walk ? :005:
And drinking a grande caramel frappuccino !
Marvellous pictures. For a place I've been so familiar with for over 50 years, I feel really detached from the Cottage now. Although I'm not attending matches at the moment, I think I need to make a trip just to wander through the park & have a peek inside.
Thanks Putney!!
Who's the lunatic standing on it? Wow😂
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Great pictures thanks!
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Stunning, it's going to be unbelievable.
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The away fans get a great view.
Quote from: SP on December 13, 2020, 04:31:43 PM
The away fans get a great view.
I know, always bothered me that!. Putney end is a far better stand than the Hammersmith
Apologies for the poor camera quality but first part of the roof is on.
Full Album:
https://imgur.com/a/Yxcv4ll
Highlights:
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Wow really starting to take shape now
Thanks for sharing
If the other three stands were redeveloped to the quality and finish of this one, we would have the second best stadium in London, after Tottenham ,
Interestingly Shahid Khan did make reference to more news to come with regards to the stand in his programme notes against Liverpool, I wonder if there are any future plans with regards to The Putney End and The Hammersmith End, would be exciting if there was , but then that's easy for any of us to say as it's not our money.
Quote from: Riversider on December 15, 2020, 02:12:00 PM
If the other three stands were redeveloped to the quality and finish of this one, we would have the second best stadium in London, after Tottenham ,
Interestingly Shahid Khan did make reference to more news to come with regards to the stand in his programme notes against Liverpool, I wonder if there are any future plans with regards to The Putney End and The Hammersmith End, would be exciting if there was , but then that's easy for any of us to say as it's not our money.
I missed that in the programme, will re-read his notes. Slip the council some more money and build out a little more into Bishops Park, the Putney End could be a huge!
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on December 09, 2020, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: alfie on December 09, 2020, 10:17:21 AM
I must be the only Fulham supporter that thinks the JH stand is ugly, in saying that I really love its history and what it means to club/supporters, but I think it's an eyesore. Sorry but that's life.
Why apologise?
I don't know really, just seemed the right thing to do.
I've never liked the JH apart from the early 80's in the Enclosure. Wasn't too keen on the Riverside either as I felt self conscious singing. I lived in QPR land since school and the Hammy end worked for me. Moved out to Kent 2012 and now in South Somerset but hoping to get to a few games after Covid is sorted. COYW
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If the Putney end was renovated and connected Bishops Park then the walk from P Bridge would be special!
Never understand why the Council do not allow the club to develop the Putney End with exits into Bishops Park. That area of the park is a mess and the grassed area needs some significant work to improve it
I feel quite sad seeing my seat of so many years sitting empty in the photo there.
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Hey, quick shout out to whomever is providing all of these terrific pictures from someone who lives 8 times zones to the west of Craven Cottage, thank you very much! These pictures really help me feel like I am there and watching the progress first hand. Much appreciated. 082.gif
I have just had a walk round the back of Hammersmith, it's one hell of a structure. It totally dwarfs the Hammersmith stand.
Thanks for the latest pictures. It looks as if the cantilevers for the roof are now being fixed, things are progressing.
Time for a Christmas report on the OFFAL surely.
When are they putting the pillars in to restrict the view? Wouldn't be a Fulham stand without those!
Quote from: SG on December 15, 2020, 09:24:17 PM
Never understand why the Council do not allow the club to develop the Putney End with exits into Bishops Park. That area of the park is a mess and the grassed area needs some significant work to improve it
I think for the first time there will be some turnstiles at the putney side into the park
Quote from: RoyTund on December 18, 2020, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: SG on December 15, 2020, 09:24:17 PM
Never understand why the Council do not allow the club to develop the Putney End with exits into Bishops Park. That area of the park is a mess and the grassed area needs some significant work to improve it
I think for the first time there will be some turnstiles at the putney side into the park
I'm a civil engineer who works on major infrastructure projects so may have *some* knowledge which can be shared here.
I expect the next expansion of CC would be for a two-tier Putney end. Precedence is a vary important consideration in any planning application. You're right to say that the new Riverside is going to have turnstiles directly into Bishop's Park. That, coupled with the increased height of the Riverside and the fact Fulham have already taken land from the park (albeit temporarily with the current site compound) makes me think that any application for a new Putney stand leading into Bishop's Park would stand a good chance of getting accepted. As part of the planning permission, Fulham would no doubt be required to provide a substanital donation to the maintenance/upkeep of the park which would soften any detrimental impact to the park.
Once the new stand is opened commercially I would update the Johnny Haynes stand.This would force many of the season ticket holders myself being one to relocate to the Riverside.I would take up this option if forced to.Who knows maybe to never return there.
Quote from: lomotd on December 18, 2020, 03:14:31 PM
Quote from: RoyTund on December 18, 2020, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: SG on December 15, 2020, 09:24:17 PM
Never understand why the Council do not allow the club to develop the Putney End with exits into Bishops Park. That area of the park is a mess and the grassed area needs some significant work to improve it
I think for the first time there will be some turnstiles at the putney side into the park
I'm a civil engineer who works on major infrastructure projects so may have *some* knowledge which can be shared here.
I expect the next expansion of CC would be for a two-tier Putney end. Precedence is a vary important consideration in any planning application. You're right to say that the new Riverside is going to have turnstiles directly into Bishop's Park. That, coupled with the increased height of the Riverside and the fact Fulham have already taken land from the park (albeit temporarily with the current site compound) makes me think that any application for a new Putney stand leading into Bishop's Park would stand a good chance of getting accepted. As part of the planning permission, Fulham would no doubt be required to provide a substanital donation to the maintenance/upkeep of the park which would soften any detrimental impact to the park.
Back when MAF was in charge and had his Riverside Stand plans approved I was reliably informed from someone who worked for the club at the time that plans had already been drawn up for a 2 tier upgrade to the Putney End.
Over a period of time I was told things that I never repeated about transfers etc and the info I was given was very much spot on so I would think this info was also good.
It would be a natural progression to update the Putney Stand and then the Hammersmith which are both I believed still licenced as temporary structures. Work on the Hammersmith would be difficult with the space available and any changes to the Stevenage Stand which is a listed building would probably be just an upgrade of facilities etc to meet modern health and safety rules.
Longing to get back into the new Riverside ASAP. 049:gif
https://twitter.com/oscar_ffc/status/1339897609247477760
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 18, 2020, 06:17:29 PM
https://twitter.com/oscar_ffc/status/1339897609247477760
Am I the only one who's slightly gutted now that they've only done the one stand? As a season ticket holder in the riverside stand not only is it going to be a lot harder to get a seat as it's got the novelty and fancier facilities but it's also most likely going to see ticket prices for the stand go up disproportionately to cover costs. I hope not and it looks great, but I've a lot of attachment to being around the group of regulars at the club and sitting in the stand and feel some of that may be lost.
Quote from: General on December 18, 2020, 06:20:29 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 18, 2020, 06:17:29 PM
https://twitter.com/oscar_ffc/status/1339897609247477760
Am I the only one who's slightly gutted now that they've only done the one stand? As a season ticket holder in the riverside stand not only is it going to be a lot harder to get a seat as it's got the novelty and fancier facilities but it's also most likely going to see ticket prices for the stand go up disproportionately to cover costs. I hope not and it looks great, but I've a lot of attachment to being around the group of regulars at the club and sitting in the stand and feel some of that may be lost.
With twice the capacity I don't. Think it will be an issue.there only so much corporate entertainment you can do.They will want the stand to be full and will price accordingly. They Will make more money by making it a full day event where people meet before and after the game.This I am looking forward to experiencing.
Good point General, I share a slightly different pain as my parents were season tickets from the start in the Riverside. They had a brilliant view from the middle central, IMO the absolute best view in the ground. I can no longer look up to their old seats, I guess that area will be right in the middle of the expanded corporate seats.
Wow, some big forces at play at the root of that roof cantilever, hope the designers have got their sums right.
Went to the Fulham side of the river for a few pics.
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Quote from: _Putney_ on December 19, 2020, 12:07:21 PM
Went to the Fulham side of the river for a few pics.
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Wow thanks for these. Fantastic Pics yet again.
Thank God we have some fans covering the progress. Otherwise we rely on an update every few months from the club.
Brilliant pics, thank you 049:gif
Loving the look of the stand.
Don't think the JH stand will have any problems with the sun in your eyes once built!
These latest pictures are breathtaking, whatever is next.
What interests me is, if we are allowing people to stroll along behind the stand on non match days, how can we install turnstiles from the park, especially if we are opening the coffee outlets to the public - or am I misreading the situation altogether?
Quote from: shepperton white on December 19, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
What interests me is, if we are allowing people to stroll along behind the stand on non match days, how can we install turnstiles from the park, especially if we are opening the coffee outlets to the public - or am I misreading the situation altogether?
Not sure I get your point. I imagine most turnstiles will be installed before stand is open and before people can walk around it.
Quote from: sarnian on December 18, 2020, 03:42:14 PM
Back when MAF was in charge and had his Riverside Stand plans approved I was reliably informed from someone who worked for the club at the time that plans had already been drawn up for a 2 tier upgrade to the Putney End.
Now that is intriguing. As will be recalled on reflection....
What actually got approved by the Council was not just a redvelopment of the Riverside, but a heightened roof to the JH Stand plus a wrap-around, uniform transformation of the other three sides, including the removal of the Cottage. Many styled this 'the spaceship design.' It gained planning permission. We decamped to Loftus Road for it to be built. It never even got started.
So the conversation you describe (which I'm not meaning to doubt) gives interesting insight into what can only have been an earlier stage of inhouse deliberations. It leaves me wondering how history might have differed if Al Fayed had confined himself to rebuilding the Riverside Stand only (stand alone, not with a Fulham Pier) instead of opting for something vastly more ambitious.
Maybe he could have afforded something more modest like that and it would actually have gone ahead. We'll never know. As it was, everyone got messed around for a difficult period of underhand dealing -- a story still online at, for instance: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/deeply-hurt-fayed-reconsidering-future-of-fulham-124610.html
Today we have an owner with deeper pockets who also changed his mind about what development exactly he wanted, and -- again similarly -- upped the ambitions of his scheme. But then differed in actually proceeding.
Quote from: b+w geezer on December 19, 2020, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: sarnian on December 18, 2020, 03:42:14 PM
Back when MAF was in charge and had his Riverside Stand plans approved I was reliably informed from someone who worked for the club at the time that plans had already been drawn up for a 2 tier upgrade to the Putney End.
Now that is intriguing. As will be recalled on reflection....
What actually got approved by the Council was not just a redvelopment of the Riverside, but a heightened roof to the JH Stand plus a wrap-around, uniform transformation of the other three sides, including the removal of the Cottage. Many styled this 'the spaceship design.' It gained planning permission. We decamped to Loftus Road for it to be built. It never even got started.
So the conversation you describe (which I'm not meaning to doubt) gives interesting insight into what can only have been an earlier stage of inhouse deliberations. It leaves me wondering how history might have differed if Al Fayed had confined himself to rebuilding the Riverside Stand only (stand alone, not with a Fulham Pier) instead of opting for something vastly more ambitious.
Maybe he could have afforded something more modest like that and it would actually have gone ahead. We'll never know. As it was, everyone got messed around for a difficult period of underhand dealing -- a story still online at, for instance: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/deeply-hurt-fayed-reconsidering-future-of-fulham-124610.html
Today we have an owner with deeper pockets who also changed his mind about what development exactly he wanted, and -- again similarly -- upped the ambitions of his scheme. But then differed in actually proceeding.
I was referring to the permission to rebuild the Riverside in July 2012 and not MAF's early 2000 plans before our Loftus Road move.
Quote from: sarnian on December 19, 2020, 07:13:04 PM
I was referring to the permission to rebuild the Riverside in July 2012 and not MAF's early 2000 plans before our Loftus Road move.
Ah, if 12 years later, then my misinterpretation (hardly your fault!) adds intrigue for no good reason.
A much smaller question only applies to the 2012 plans -- whether MAF ever had the slightest intention of proceeding with them himself, or gained the permission with a seller always in mind.
Quote from: shepperton white on December 19, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
What interests me is, if we are allowing people to stroll along behind the stand on non match days, how can we install turnstiles from the park, especially if we are opening the coffee outlets to the public - or am I misreading the situation altogether?
there are the permanent turnstiles but there is also the wide exit gates that will be open on non matchdays to allow full access to the riverwalk.
It's all a hoax. Fake pictures. This stand will never be built.
Meanwhile, 'back to the future' !
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Not sure if this works(pic upload), but this was taken down from twitter as possibly a leak "preliminary design" for the other 3 stands.
We got anyone with more info to this?
Can't upload the picture is a few mb.
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The pictures above I took today, I am simply in awe of this new stand, but I can't think of one other stadium in the entire United Kingdom where one stand is so out of keeping from the rest of the ground,
As others have touched on this stand must signal the start of a major redevelopment, there is no way this is the end.
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2020, 07:28:06 AM
Quote from: shepperton white on December 19, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
What interests me is, if we are allowing people to stroll along behind the stand on non match days, how can we install turnstiles from the park, especially if we are opening the coffee outlets to the public - or am I misreading the situation altogether?
there are the permanent turnstiles but there is also the wide exit gates that will be open on non matchdays to allow full access to the riverwalk.
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https://twitter.com/sdcoote/status/1342074853327839233
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What lovely photos.Thank you for sharing. Merry Christmas
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 24, 2020, 02:12:22 PM
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Taking shape nicely - looks like a very visually dominating stand. Will have to try and watch a couple of games from the very back of the stand so you can watch the game and also get the view of London. Imagine that's quite unique as far as football stadia go.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 20, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
Not sure if this works(pic upload), but this was taken down from twitter as possibly a leak "preliminary design" for the other 3 stands.
We got anyone with more info to this?
Can't upload the picture is a few mb.
Please do share and try again....if not, can you DM it on twitter?
I agree General, the view from the back centre of the stand should be something, perhaps similar to the view from the away end at Newcastle but better!
Quote from: SP on December 24, 2020, 04:32:14 PM
I agree General, the view from the back centre of the stand should be something, perhaps similar to the view from the away end at Newcastle but better!
Far higher up at Newcastle, that stand is truly enormous. It's still going to be a great view though from ours. Think the city skyline will look amazing on evening games
I think you may find that the overhanging roof may be in the way up at the back?
I shall be drinking by the pool nothing in my way.
Quote from: Riversider on December 20, 2020, 06:20:24 PM
The pictures above I took today, I am simply in awe of this new stand, but I can't think of one other stadium in the entire United Kingdom where one stand is so out of keeping from the rest of the ground,
As others have touched on this stand must signal the start of a major redevelopment, there is no way this is the end.
The Wycombe Wanderers main stand is massive compared to the rest of the ground.
I'm sure I said this before but Chelsea New stand when Ken Bates was the. Chairman was well out of proportion.
Quote from: Gezza on December 24, 2020, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Riversider on December 20, 2020, 06:20:24 PM
The pictures above I took today, I am simply in awe of this new stand, but I can't think of one other stadium in the entire United Kingdom where one stand is so out of keeping from the rest of the ground,
As others have touched on this stand must signal the start of a major redevelopment, there is no way this is the end.
The Wycombe Wanderers main stand is massive compared to the rest of the ground.
Elland Rds East Stand?
Quote from: PhilEsh on December 24, 2020, 03:33:42 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on December 20, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
Not sure if this works(pic upload), but this was taken down from twitter as possibly a leak "preliminary design" for the other 3 stands.
We got anyone with more info to this?
Can't upload the picture is a few mb.
Please do share and try again....if not, can you DM it on twitter?
+1 would be great to see the picture if it exists and see what may happen.
Quote from: Gezza on December 24, 2020, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Riversider on December 20, 2020, 06:20:24 PM
The pictures above I took today, I am simply in awe of this new stand, but I can't think of one other stadium in the entire United Kingdom where one stand is so out of keeping from the rest of the ground,
As others have touched on this stand must signal the start of a major redevelopment, there is no way this is the end.
The Wycombe Wanderers main stand is massive compared to the rest of the ground.
Fleetwood Town is a bit like this .... !!
https://twitter.com/JTaylorSport/status/1342838954631032834?s=20
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2020, 05:39:10 PM
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Construction is exempt even in tier 4.
The only question I have is this: Is it possible that the new stand is actually too close to the pitch? I feel like you could risk injury chasing a ball across the picth and end up running headlong into a concrete wall.
Interesting little video on YouTube about the roof structure, apologies if it's already been mentioned.
Watch "Riverside Stand Update: December" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/6QwZAeREq6k
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on December 26, 2020, 08:00:03 PM
The only question I have is this: Is it possible that the new stand is actually too close to the pitch? I feel like you could risk injury chasing a ball across the picth and end up running headlong into a concrete wall.
They want the players to experience the same sensation that we who have supported the club well over half a century feel....
Quote from: ron on December 27, 2020, 11:10:53 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on December 26, 2020, 08:00:03 PM
The only question I have is this: Is it possible that the new stand is actually too close to the pitch? I feel like you could risk injury chasing a ball across the picth and end up running headlong into a concrete wall.
They want the players to experience the same sensation that we who have supported the club well over half a century feel....
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https://twitter.com/justincorbin4/status/1345045311643914241
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https://twitter.com/justincorbin4/status/1345051423424311298
https://twitter.com/scott_tanfield/status/1345067103364251648
Quote from: bobby01 on December 26, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2020, 05:39:10 PM
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Construction is exempt even in tier 4.
Blimey, how many tiers are there? Anyway, you've got to build tier 3 before you get to 4. :003:
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Quote from: bobby01 on December 26, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2020, 05:39:10 PM
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Construction is exempt even in tier 4.
Blimey, how many tiers are there? Anyway, you've got to build tier 3 before you get to 4. :003:
Boom tish. Very good. For a moment you had me counting the levels on the new stand and questioning my sanity.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on January 02, 2021, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 02, 2021, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on December 26, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2020, 05:39:10 PM
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Construction is exempt even in tier 4.
Blimey, how many tiers are there? Anyway, you've got to build tier 3 before you get to 4. :003:
Boom tish. Very good. For a moment you had me counting the levels on the new stand and questioning my sanity.
I always go back to the Riverside plans once looking at some new photos thanks by the way.
The latest report on the Offal is interesting and covers the shipment of the assembled roof trusses from Tilbury to the Cottage, it is a tight squeeze under Wesminster Bridge.
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2021, 05:53:41 PM
The latest report on the Offal is interesting and covers the shipment of the assembled roof trusses from Tilbury to the Cottage, it is a tight squeeze under Wesminster Bridge.
It's interesting that it takes 2 days to get from Tilbury to Fulham, all to do with the correct tides.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on January 02, 2021, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 02, 2021, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on December 26, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2020, 05:39:10 PM
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Construction is exempt even in tier 4.
Blimey, how many tiers are there? Anyway, you've got to build tier 3 before you get to 4. :003:
Boom tish. Very good. For a moment you had me counting the levels on the new stand and questioning my sanity.
My pleasure Galv, btw Happy New Year buddy 082.gif
Quote from: alfie on January 02, 2021, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2021, 05:53:41 PM
The latest report on the Offal is interesting and covers the shipment of the assembled roof trusses from Tilbury to the Cottage, it is a tight squeeze under Wesminster Bridge.
It's interesting that it takes 2 days to get from Tilbury to Fulham, all to do with the correct tides.
They should've done the knowledge
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 02, 2021, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on January 02, 2021, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 02, 2021, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on December 26, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2020, 05:39:10 PM
Progress is being made but the builders will be off now for a couple of weeks for their Christmas break then progress may be inhibited by Covid Tier 4 restrictions I imagine.
Construction is exempt even in tier 4.
Blimey, how many tiers are there? Anyway, you've got to build tier 3 before you get to 4. :003:
Boom tish. Very good. For a moment you had me counting the levels on the new stand and questioning my sanity.
My pleasure Galv, btw Happy New Year buddy 082.gif
And back at you. The stand is huge ..... I wonder though if it will generate any noise. I still remember The Enclave getting eight seats in the Riverside, must have been a cup game, and we could hear Brian, six seats along, unwrapping a Werthers in his pocket. I would be content with a tour that includes taking a seat smack bang in the middle and again at the very top. What a 360 view that will be.
Stay safe........ and warm.
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I suspect that the seats in that upper level will produce the most intimate and bar none the best view in all of English football. In fact I will double down and predict that the view and the Fulham supporter's experience will be so transformative that at an international level it will forever change the design concept of future stand upgrades and ground construction plans for years to come. It will become the way of the future: stands which literally put the supporter nearly into the game itself.
This constuction job where access is mainly from the river is very interesting and I suspect will become the subject of studies by civil engineering students. We are lucky to have such unique work taking place at the Cottage.
I tried again to upload the supposed leaked preliminary design of the other 3 stands. (From twitter, before it was taken down)
This site only allows 128kb! I compressed the image to below that... but still no joy? Anything I'm doing obviously wrong?
Quote from: fcfulham55 on January 04, 2021, 04:32:53 PM
I tried again to upload the supposed leaked preliminary design of the other 3 stands. (From twitter, before it was taken down)
This site only allows 128kb! I compressed the image to below that... but still no joy? Anything I'm doing obviously wrong?
Anyone else seen it? Didn't get the image of the new floodlights which look suspended above a new johnny haynes roof too. Would be nice if someone else happened to get that.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on January 04, 2021, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on January 04, 2021, 04:32:53 PM
I tried again to upload the supposed leaked preliminary design of the other 3 stands. (From twitter, before it was taken down)
This site only allows 128kb! I compressed the image to below that... but still no joy? Anything I'm doing obviously wrong?
Anyone else seen it? Didn't get the image of the new floodlights which look suspended above a new johnny haynes roof too. Would be nice if someone else happened to get that.
Maybe you can email it to someone who knows how to download it.
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 04, 2021, 01:22:40 AM
I suspect that the seats in that upper level will produce the most intimate and bar none the best view in all of English football. In fact I will double down and predict that the view and the Fulham supporter's experience will be so transformative that at an international level it will forever change the design concept of future stand upgrades and ground construction plans for years to come. It will become the way of the future: stands which literally put the supporter nearly into the game itself.
Hopefully, we should attract some decent international friendlies with the new facility. Another visit from Brazil would be welcome.
Quote from: SP on January 04, 2021, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 04, 2021, 01:22:40 AM
I suspect that the seats in that upper level will produce the most intimate and bar none the best view in all of English football. In fact I will double down and predict that the view and the Fulham supporter's experience will be so transformative that at an international level it will forever change the design concept of future stand upgrades and ground construction plans for years to come. It will become the way of the future: stands which literally put the supporter nearly into the game itself.
Hopefully, we should attract some decent international friendlies with the new facility. Another visit from Brazil would be welcome.
Not the whole of Brazil !
Didn't Eusebio play in an exhibition match for the opening of the last Riverside stand? Wonder if we could do something similar this time.
Believe Eusebio was injured for that game
Quote from: SP on January 04, 2021, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 04, 2021, 01:22:40 AM
I suspect that the seats in that upper level will produce the most intimate and bar none the best view in all of English football. In fact I will double down and predict that the view and the Fulham supporter's experience will be so transformative that at an international level it will forever change the design concept of future stand upgrades and ground construction plans for years to come. It will become the way of the future: stands which literally put the supporter nearly into the game itself.
Hopefully, we should attract some decent international friendlies with the new facility. Another visit from Brazil would be welcome.
Exeter played Brazil Legends a few years ago. Almost the whole squad cleaned out JJB Sports the next day. A grand opening match, also a safety test, could be a great reward/thank you for those that had to be moved out, ST Holders and Richard Osman.
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Pre-Roof, but a nice perspective
That is some view, but it's giving me vertigo just looking at the pic. :005:
Excellent pictures - thank you !
One of my most favourite threads of all time!
Thank you so much for these pics.
Quote from: Fernhurst on January 06, 2021, 01:53:39 PM
One of my most favourite threads of all time!
Thank you so much for these pics.
+1
Thanks for the pictures, can't wait to be back!
Not sure if the premium seats at the top will be to watch the football or look over London.
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
Not sure if the premium seats at the top will be to watch the football or look over London.
We've all been to games where an alternative view would of been welcome.
A breathtaking picture. A seat in that stand is going to give a great matchday experience.
Quote from: Cornishnick on January 04, 2021, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: SP on January 04, 2021, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 04, 2021, 01:22:40 AM
I suspect that the seats in that upper level will produce the most intimate and bar none the best view in all of English football. In fact I will double down and predict that the view and the Fulham supporter's experience will be so transformative that at an international level it will forever change the design concept of future stand upgrades and ground construction plans for years to come. It will become the way of the future: stands which literally put the supporter nearly into the game itself.
Hopefully, we should attract some decent international friendlies with the new facility. Another visit from Brazil would be welcome.
Not the whole of Brazil !
Just Gary Brazil will suffice
When is the Riverside Stand official due to be finished?
And, can someone estimate how far it is behind schedule?
And, so when is the Riverside stand likely to be finished?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 07, 2021, 01:25:18 AM
When is the Riverside Stand official due to be finished?
And, can someone estimate how far it is behind schedule?
And, so when is the Riverside stand likely to be finished?
The target is to have paying fans sitting in it for August with the actual fit out facing the river still in progress. Priority is pitch facing at the moment. I suspect it won't be finished as such until early 2022
Quote from: MJG on January 07, 2021, 05:58:29 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 07, 2021, 01:25:18 AM
When is the Riverside Stand official due to be finished?
And, can someone estimate how far it is behind schedule?
And, so when is the Riverside stand likely to be finished?
The target is to have paying fans sitting in it for August with the actual fit out facing the river still in progress. Priority is pitch facing at the moment. I suspect it won't be finished as such until early 2022
Thanks MJG
Quote from: I Ronic on January 06, 2021, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
Not sure if the premium seats at the top will be to watch the football or look over London.
We've all been to games where an alternative view would of been welcome.
:003: :003:
A new piece of the roof is sitting outside on the river, so I suspect that will go up shortly.
As I remember it you can see Wembley from the Kew gardens tree walk.
Maybe that will possible also from the Riverside?
https://twitter.com/scooteronnie/status/1347117536794599426
Quote from: G_Gribby on January 07, 2021, 09:39:13 AM
As I remember it you can see Wembley from the Kew gardens tree walk.
Maybe that will possible also from the Riverside?
More important is will you be able to see our stand from Wembley, that would make us all feel at home in the FA Cup final this year.
Quote from: G_Gribby on January 07, 2021, 09:39:13 AM
As I remember it you can see Wembley from the Kew gardens tree walk.
Maybe that will possible also from the Riverside?
You can see Wembley from the river in Hammersmith, let alone from the stand
The way it's going you'll be able to see our new stand from the moon. :54:
You can see Wembley from central London, Putney both at the top of the hill and near Putney bridge along the river, Roehampton, Surbiton and beyond.
Quote from: Southdowns White on January 07, 2021, 11:18:41 AM
You can see Wembley from central London, Putney both at the top of the hill and near Putney bridge along the river, Roehampton, Surbiton and beyond.
Top of Doverhouse road gives a decent Vista.Riverside is definitely facing the right way.
it's pretty obvious I only have eyes for the black and white team on the pitch and Craven Cottage. I missed looking for Wembley.
:dft003:
Quote from: shepperton white on January 04, 2021, 06:19:25 PM
Believe Eusebio was injured for that game
I was there, never had any doubt before reading your post that he'd played, Think I'd have noticed if he hadn't!
https://twitter.com/scooteronnie/status/1347153074205417473
Looking at that last photo you will not be able to see spectators in the Riverside walking down the road.
These pictures are so exciting, they make me want to put on outdoor clothes with a Fulham scarf and hat and get along to the Cottage and somehow get into that stand and sit and have a packed lunch overlooking the pitch.
https://twitter.com/friendsoffulham/status/1347171982148820994
Yes, I think Eusebio played and was allowed to score the winner.
Quote from: Old Dave. on January 07, 2021, 02:48:57 PM
Yes, I think Eusebio played and was allowed to score the winner.
I thought it was 3-2 to us? Got the programme somewhere...
Quote from: Holders on January 07, 2021, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: Old Dave. on January 07, 2021, 02:48:57 PM
Yes, I think Eusebio played and was allowed to score the winner.
I thought it was 3-2 to us? Got the programme somewhere...
Yep Fulham won 3-2 scorers Steve Earle,Roger Cross and an own goal.
We also played and beat Santos (1973) with Pele
I thought that was for the Riverside opening, but could be mixed up?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 07, 2021, 07:03:03 PM
We also played and beat Santos (1973) with Pele
I thought that was for the Riverside opening, but could be mixed up?
That game was 1973 a year after the stand opening and we beat them 2-1 with Pele scoring a penalty.
https://twitter.com/david_friend01/status/1347244325068005376
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 07, 2021, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 07, 2021, 07:03:03 PM
We also played and beat Santos (1973) with Pele
I thought that was for the Riverside opening, but could be mixed up?
That game was 1973 a year after the stand opening and we beat them 2-1 with Pele scoring a penalty.
Oh ok, thanks mrmicawbers
My memory isn't what it was!
I thought Pele scored following a headed 1-2 pass before he put it in! Maybe that was the Eusebio goal?
Quote from: hongkongfulham on January 07, 2021, 06:12:50 AM
Quote from: MJG on January 07, 2021, 05:58:29 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 07, 2021, 01:25:18 AM
When is the Riverside Stand official due to be finished?
And, can someone estimate how far it is behind schedule?
And, so when is the Riverside stand likely to be finished?
The target is to have paying fans sitting in it for August with the actual fit out facing the river still in progress. Priority is pitch facing at the moment. I suspect it won't be finished as such until early 2022
Thanks MJG
Thanks MJG, financially the stand revenue will add a little each year to the budget. Probably enough to bring in a player that helps us get an extra couple of points a season, that may get us a place higher and that leads to a little extra TV money etc.
I wonder what that heat does for our carbon footprint?
It is just so impressive. I just hope that it doesn't look too out of place. It might, but that is the cost of progress I suppose.
https://twitter.com/tidal_thames95/status/1347560445574578177
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 07, 2021, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 07, 2021, 07:03:03 PM
We also played and beat Santos (1973) with Pele
I thought that was for the Riverside opening, but could be mixed up?
That game was 1973 a year after the stand opening and we beat them 2-1 with Pele scoring a penalty.
We also played Ferencvaros to celebrate the new floodlights circa 1965 when Bobby Keetch, embarrassingly, kicked European Player Of Year Florian Albert all over the pitch...in a friendly!
Surprised there is not a Fulham Logo on that roof truss on the Thames, our PR boys are missing a trick.
Quote from: filham on January 09, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
Surprised there is not a Fulham Logo on that roof truss on the Thames, our PR boys are missing a trick.
Yeah until one get jammed under a bridge lol
https://twitter.com/teddybeerlover/status/1347879011855298560
Does anyone know if the club, (or anyone else), has a time lapse video on the go for the new stand?
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 09, 2021, 09:00:31 PM
Does anyone know if the club, (or anyone else), has a time lapse video on the go for the new stand?
From FST notes in November...
the Trust asked what had happened with the webcam to provide real time progress that had previously been discussed. The Club explained that there is not a webcam as the Trust had previously understood, but rather provision for time lapse video (from a camera set up by the contractor) on completion of the project
Must be due for another update?
Perhaps Saturday we'll see the progress when we beat Chelsea live on sky.
A mate who lives near the Cottage told me the crane lifted the latest roof truss up today ready to be bolted on. He is a Fulham Supporter who can see the roof from his kitchen 👍😎
Quote from: Middlesexclub on January 13, 2021, 11:53:44 PM
A mate who lives near the Cottage told me the crane lifted the latest roof truss up today ready to be bolted on. He is a Fulham Supporter who can see the roof from his kitchen 👍😎
Most of West London can see that roof from their window 😳
Quote from: Riversider on January 14, 2021, 01:19:31 AM
Quote from: Middlesexclub on January 13, 2021, 11:53:44 PM
A mate who lives near the Cottage told me the crane lifted the latest roof truss up today ready to be bolted on. He is a Fulham Supporter who can see the roof from his kitchen 👍😎
Most of West London can see that roof from their window 😳
Well I live in Ellerby Street and I can't see it.
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 16, 2021, 05:38:30 PM
It's a different stand to any place else alright.
But does anyone feel this stand over emphasises it's size in one shot, then looks small in another?
It's bigger than the Riverside and Hammersmith Stands, sometimes hard to gauge by how much. Feel it'll look a lot better when the bottom tier is visible, even though it's an usually small bottom tier.
Nice aerial shots on BT.
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Considering the roof was put together elsewhere and brought up the river, I'm surprised it's taking so long to put it all together. They started putting those roof sections on a month ago.
Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 11:27:12 PM
Considering the roof was put together elsewhere and brought up the river, I'm surprised it's taking so long to put it all together. They started putting those roof sections on a month ago.
Interesting to see the roof sections going up - was watching last nights game with the bad weather and was thinking of the roof coverage - Does it look like the roof is short? anyone sitting in the first 15 to 20 or so rows in the new stand look like they would get soaked on a night like last night
Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 11:27:12 PM
Considering the roof was put together elsewhere and brought up the river, I'm surprised it's taking so long to put it all together. They started putting those roof sections on a month ago.
One section at a time down the river by barge. Lot to take into account doing that as explained on one of the videos
Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 11:27:12 PM
Considering the roof was put together elsewhere and brought up the river, I'm surprised it's taking so long to put it all together. They started putting those roof sections on a month ago.
It's only every other section put up in whole pieces, the infills still need to be put together on site bit by bit.
Getting soaked at football matches is a hazard wherever you sit If the wind blows in the wrong direction
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1354744028416380929
Bloody hell, it's noisy!!!
The last roof piece on the end, towards the Putney End, has been put on. Think it went on yesterday. The terracing has also made its way all across. I will try to pop down to the river tomorrow and get a photo or two, but we're bound to have some inside and out due to the match.
Who's booking the swimming pool for Lincoln at home?
Quote from: Blawarmy on February 02, 2021, 06:58:34 PM
Who's booking the swimming pool for Lincoln at home?
Sounds really exciting 😂
In actual fairness, I find the Championship much more entertaining.
We need to give the new stand a funny name. Let me get back to you....
How about naming it the Travellers Stand.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 02, 2021, 06:52:01 PM
The last roof piece on the end, towards the Putney End, has been put on. Think it went on yesterday. The terracing has also made its way all across. I will try to pop down to the river tomorrow and get a photo or two, but we're bound to have some inside and out due to the match.
I went yesterday and it looked like still one to put up at Hammersmith end, if it's not raining I will go and have look.
Looking at last weeks short video it appears that that the area towards the Putney stand is nowhere near ready to receive the last 3 or 4 roof sections. Hopefully someone can post a couple of photos in the next few days although tomorrow's game will maybe give us some views of the stand.
I suspect Christmas, Covid and the weather may have slowed things down. The high running river cannot be helping either.
Quote from: alfie on February 02, 2021, 07:24:05 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 02, 2021, 06:52:01 PM
The last roof piece on the end, towards the Putney End, has been put on. Think it went on yesterday. The terracing has also made its way all across. I will try to pop down to the river tomorrow and get a photo or two, but we're bound to have some inside and out due to the match.
I went yesterday and it looked like still one to put up at Hammersmith end, if it's not raining I will go and have look.
I should probably clarify I mean the roof support piece, not the actual roof that goes over the seats.
Thanks Putney. That makes sense. It good to see they are still working.
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I hope we get some good shots inside the ground today!
A quick recap:
September, 2019
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August, 2020
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February, 2021
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Thanks for those Putney.When you see it like that it's pretty amazing.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 03, 2021, 01:12:59 PM
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I hope we get some good shots inside the ground today!
Wow it looks incredible, i know this season has been horrific on many levels but when you look beyond it we will have the most beautiful new stand and no league will take that away from us
Wow it is impressive. When will they fix the price for one of the flats, would love to move in for a super river view without the risk of flooding.
Great shots, thank you for posting. Can't wait to actually see it.
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Wow
Beautiful pictures
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You can see as far as the championship from the upper level....
.....on a clear day possibly league1 ....
Thanks Putney you are an absolute star. If only the players could shoot as well as you!!!
Looks awesome, won't be difficult to administer social distancing next season as it will probably be half empty!
Thanks again for the pics.Funny from the inside of the ground the stand doesn't seem overwhelm the other stands,where from the Riverside view it looks very substantial.
Quote from: davew on February 04, 2021, 08:31:36 AM
Looks awesome, won't be difficult to administer social distancing next season as it will probably be half empty!
Well, we know you won't be there whatever division we're in. But you will be showing your loyalty on here though won't you. Backing the team with your unwavering passionate support
Quote from: ianthailand on February 04, 2021, 07:38:03 AM
Thanks Putney you are an absolute star. If only the players could shoot as well as you!!!
Ha, I appreciate it, but most of these are not my photos! I'm afraid my photography skills are as bad as RLC and Cavaleiro combined.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 04, 2021, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: davew on February 04, 2021, 08:31:36 AM
Looks awesome, won't be difficult to administer social distancing next season as it will probably be half empty!
Well, we know you won't be there whatever division we're in. But you will be showing your loyalty on here though won't you. Backing the team with your unwavering passionate support
Of course!!!
thanks for the update and photos. That's cheered me up.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 04, 2021, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: davew on February 04, 2021, 08:31:36 AM
Looks awesome, won't be difficult to administer social distancing next season as it will probably be half empty!
Well, we know you won't be there whatever division we're in. But you will be showing your loyalty on here though won't you. Backing the team with your unwavering passionate support
What was our average home crowd on our last Championship season?Held up quite well as I remember.Don't be surprised if we go down that another stand gets done.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 04, 2021, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 04, 2021, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: davew on February 04, 2021, 08:31:36 AM
Looks awesome, won't be difficult to administer social distancing next season as it will probably be half empty!
Well, we know you won't be there whatever division we're in. But you will be showing your loyalty on here though won't you. Backing the team with your unwavering passionate support
What was our average home crowd on our last Championship season?Held up quite well as I remember.Don't be surprised if we go down that another stand gets done.
It was intended as a bad joke, sorry!
Some absolutely stunning photos last night on Twitter. Stand with a beautiful sunset behind
Stand with a beautiful sunset behind
Hopefully not an omen
New Riverside Stand absolutely fabulous and as of 04-02-21 it seems destined for the Championship unless we can magic up another great escape
Quote from: ron on February 03, 2021, 08:32:35 PM
You can see as far as the championship from the upper level....
.....on a clear day possibly league1 ....
:005:
its only when you see the 'before' pics with the level of the riverside roof below that of the putney end and then see how much above the new one is you realise how gig it it.
cant see many balls being lost into the river !
some amazing pictures, especially the sunset ones.
Shame we do not have a fully formed squad to match.
It desreves to be in the Prem but clearly will languish in the Championship.
I still don't believe the Khans will ever build it. The pictures are all photoshopped.
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RENDERS:
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ROOF MATERIAL CHANGE (Wood to Bronze Coloured Steel)
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Thankyou for these latest pictures Putney, and the continuous updates, I'm sure everyone on here appreciates it ..
A hotel?
That passed me by completely. Does anyone know any basic details about it, how many rooms etc
Quote from: davew on February 04, 2021, 08:31:36 AM
Looks awesome, won't be difficult to administer social distancing next season as it will probably be half empty!
For gods sake you really are an effing moaner.
For once be positive about FFC
Looks impressive I have to say from where I am sitting. I shall look forward to watching it grow into a complex that can only increase the attractiveness and appeal of Fulhams unique stadium.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on February 05, 2021, 06:27:02 PM
Thankyou for these latest pictures Putney, and the continuous updates, I'm sure everyone on here appreciates it ..
Totally agree, thank you Putney.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on February 05, 2021, 06:27:02 PM
Thankyou for these latest pictures Putney, and the continuous updates, I'm sure everyone on here appreciates it ..
+1
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 05, 2021, 06:58:23 PM
A hotel?
That passed me by completely. Does anyone know any basic details about it, how many rooms etc
Me too. Not heard or read a thing about a hotel!
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on February 04, 2021, 10:35:44 AM
Some absolutely stunning photos last night on Twitter. Stand with a beautiful sunset behind
Fabulous pictures, keep them coming.
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 05, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 05, 2021, 06:58:23 PM
A hotel?
That passed me by completely. Does anyone know any basic details about it, how many rooms etc
Me too. Not heard or read a thing about a hotel!
9 serviced apartments originally but they did amend something I seem to remember
Yes, plans were amended from service apartments to a 15 (I think) room boutique hotel.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 06, 2021, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 05, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 05, 2021, 06:58:23 PM
A hotel?
That passed me by completely. Does anyone know any basic details about it, how many rooms etc
Me too. Not heard or read a thing about a hotel!
9 serviced apartments originally but they did amend something I seem to remember
I cant recall the hotel amendment. The only alterations to the original plans I can recall is changing the apartments at the Putney end into a health club??
I had a break at a nice hotel in Telford a couple of years ago where a large window in the dining room overlooked the Telford football pitch. Would be nice to experience something similar at the Cottage.
Quote from: filham on February 06, 2021, 10:35:28 AM
I had a break at a nice hotel in Telford a couple of years ago where a large window in the dining room overlooked the Telford football pitch. Would be nice to experience something similar at the Cottage.
I went to a pre-season game at MK dons about 5 years ago. God, we were awful. I noticed the hotel within the ground and as I fancied a beer and it was school holiday time, I said to my son (13) at the time, lets stay overnight.
We got in the room and opened up the blinds to reveal the pitch in its full glory with the floodlights still on. His words, which I still take the Mickey out of him were "It doesn't get better than this". I said, "Son. You have much to learn".
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https://twitter.com/MattAldridge31/status/1358093074392612866?s=20
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 06, 2021, 04:55:06 PM
https://twitter.com/MattAldridge31/status/1358093074392612866?s=20
Lovely "LITTLE"...
Quote from: fcfulham55 on February 06, 2021, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 06, 2021, 04:55:06 PM
https://twitter.com/MattAldridge31/status/1358093074392612866?s=20
Lovely "LITTLE"...
Always winds me up when I hear the Cottage described as a quaint small ground or there as little
It's not a small ground, never has been
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 05, 2021, 06:08:22 PM
RENDERS:
(https://i.imgur.com/K5m5Sh5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/fa59335.png)
ROOF MATERIAL CHANGE (Wood to Bronze Coloured Steel)
(https://i.imgur.com/cwqAscY.png)
Where did you get those from mate? Would love to see if there's any more
What's the reason for the material change from timber to bronze coloured steel?
Quick question - where will people enter and exit the Riverside stand from? I assume that we'd be able to do away with the "neutral end" workaround if we put turnstiles at either end so that we can control away fans going into a separate point, or is that not something we're looking at doing?
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 09, 2021, 09:58:40 PM
Quick question - where will people enter and exit the Riverside stand from? I assume that we'd be able to do away with the "neutral end" workaround if we put turnstiles at either end so that we can control away fans going into a separate point, or is that not something we're looking at doing?
Entrance to the Riverside is through new turnstiles in Bishops Park and exit either into the park directly or the Hammersmith walk. Putney home and away fans will enter and leave through Stevenage Road as is at present.
Still can't understand why they've only got what appear to be about 7 out of a total of 15 sections of the roof up. I thought that was all prefabricated elsewhere and would go on pretty quick. Really looking forward to seeing the complete roof because I think then you get a proper sense of the full silhouette.
Quote from: Statto on February 10, 2021, 12:07:12 AM
Still can't understand why they've only got what appear to be about 7 out of a total of 15 sections of the roof up. I thought that was all prefabricated elsewhere and would go on pretty quick. Really looking forward to seeing the complete roof because I think then you get a proper sense of the full silhouette.
It seems to be way behind schedule, I cannot even imagine this stadium is completed by the end of 2021. Does anyone know, how many months it should take to complete the rest of the stadium so it's ready to use.
Quote from: Statto on February 10, 2021, 12:07:12 AM
Still can't understand why they've only got what appear to be about 7 out of a total of 15 sections of the roof up. I thought that was all prefabricated elsewhere and would go on pretty quick. Really looking forward to seeing the complete roof because I think then you get a proper sense of the full silhouette.
I think I read in someone's post that every other section was built off site and the sections in between were being done on site.
Does anyone know the name of the Hotel brand going in to the space?
Imagine having a room on a Friday night then the games on the Saturday with access to the health suit for the Saturday morning and lunch in the restaurant and bar before the game. How much would you pay for that lot ? £1000 ?
Quote from: hongkongfulham on February 10, 2021, 01:39:04 AM
Does anyone know the name of the Hotel brand going in to the space?
They should call it the "Ish" - which would resonate with the fans
Quote from: hongkongfulham on February 10, 2021, 01:39:04 AM
Does anyone know the name of the Hotel brand going in to the space?
Fawlty Towers
Quote from: hongkongfulham on February 10, 2021, 01:39:04 AM
Does anyone know the name of the Hotel brand going in to the space?
The Thamesbank travellers rest!
So the first guests should be able to check in at around about the same time as Fulham check out,
How Fulhamish.
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 09, 2021, 09:58:40 PM
Quick question - where will people enter and exit the Riverside stand from? I assume that we'd be able to do away with the "neutral end" workaround if we put turnstiles at either end so that we can control away fans going into a separate point, or is that not something we're looking at doing?
Turnstiles at Putney and Hammersmith end next to the two sets of gates that open up for the walkway on non matchdays.
From the recent supporters Trust meeting, completion has now been pushed back to 2022,
A limited amount of seats may be available next season, but that's not certain,
Seems it will be season 2022/2023 before we see it in all its glory.
Quote from: FulhamStu on February 10, 2021, 08:10:36 AM
Imagine having a room on a Friday night then the games on the Saturday with access to the health suit for the Saturday morning and lunch in the restaurant and bar before the game. How much would you pay for that lot ? £1000 ?
Double that ............. per person!
Quote from: Riversider on February 10, 2021, 10:16:03 AM
From the recent supporters Trust meeting, completion has now been pushed back to 2022,
A limited amount of seats may be available next season, but that's not certain,
Seems it will be season 2022/2023 before we see it in all its glory.
Thats a shame
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Looks like the club have taken down their own timeline, can anybody else get it to respond ? 🤔
Quote from: Riversider on February 10, 2021, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on November 15, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/downloads/pdf/a3_info_session_nov_2019_single.jpg
Looks like the club have taken down their own timeline, can anybody else get it to respond ? 🤔
(https://images-v2.fulhamfc.com/fit-in/1000x1000/80cc1430-74cc-11ea-bce4-873ec1a78f62.jpg)
Is this it?
Quote from: MJG on February 10, 2021, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 09, 2021, 09:58:40 PM
Quick question - where will people enter and exit the Riverside stand from? I assume that we'd be able to do away with the "neutral end" workaround if we put turnstiles at either end so that we can control away fans going into a separate point, or is that not something we're looking at doing?
Turnstiles at Putney and Hammersmith end next to the two sets of gates that open up for the walkway on non matchdays.
Thanks MJG - do you know if the turnstiles will allow access to the Riverside and Putney as well or is it just for the Riverside? Based on the drawings I'd imagine you can't get into the Hammy end but the design makes it look like it might be possible at the Putney end?
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 10, 2021, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 10, 2021, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 09, 2021, 09:58:40 PM
Quick question - where will people enter and exit the Riverside stand from? I assume that we'd be able to do away with the "neutral end" workaround if we put turnstiles at either end so that we can control away fans going into a separate point, or is that not something we're looking at doing?
Turnstiles at Putney and Hammersmith end next to the two sets of gates that open up for the walkway on non matchdays.
Thanks MJG - do you know if the turnstiles will allow access to the Riverside and Putney as well or is it just for the Riverside? Based on the drawings I'd imagine you can't get into the Hammy end but the design makes it look like it might be possible at the Putney end?
I agree not clear but I reckon they will be fully for the Riverside stand only allowing more segregtion and less crowds on the road. If I was being really cynical I reckon that whole riverside area will be for the fans in the stand only. Hope i'm proved wrong.
No reason for people to get hot under the collar on the timescales. Unlikely stadiums will be back to capacity till early next year I reckon. Also, Covid will have delayed things on site and still logistically it's been a mammoth undertaking working on and in the river.
I reckon some fans in it this autumn at the Putney end of it while the fit out inside goes ahead throughout 21/22 and as more fans are firstly allowed in the ground and then in the stand it will become more accessible.
I reckon August 2022 grand opening as we have our first home game back in the PL. :dft012:
I was led to believe you would only have access to the Riverside facilities if you had a ticket for the stand.This would include any restaurants and bars normally open to the general public along the walkway. Assume this is to segregate the way fans.I'm sure if they policed it properly they could let home fans in other stands in if say they were season ticket holders after the game in particular.
***Note to everyone, please do not post images from Getty Images as they are copyrighted. Posting of such photos can get FoF in hot water. Thanks for everyone's help in keeping FoF on the up and up :54:
Quote from: love4ffc on February 11, 2021, 03:11:47 AM
***Note to everyone, please do not post images from Getty Images as they are copyrighted. Posting of such photos can get FoF in hot water. Thanks for everyone's help in keeping FoF on the up and up :54:
Really? Even with the watermark? Sorry, had no idea!
Edit: A link to the page containing the photo would be ok, I imagine?
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 11, 2021, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: love4ffc on February 11, 2021, 03:11:47 AM
***Note to everyone, please do not post images from Getty Images as they are copyrighted. Posting of such photos can get FoF in hot water. Thanks for everyone's help in keeping FoF on the up and up :54:
Really? Even with the watermark? Sorry, had no idea!
Edit: A link to the page containing the photo would be ok, I imagine?
That might be the solution.
Getty Images permits free usage of their images only via the 'embed' option, and for non-commercial use. So basically you can use it on your own personal website/blog, though I do not believe this is an option for standard posting on a forum unfortunately, but if we can find a method, we'll let you know.
https://www.gettyimages.com/resources/embed (https://www.gettyimages.com/resources/embed)
Time we had a new video report on the OFFAL .
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et40UWIXEAAUZFM?format=jpg&name=small)
Be careful Jetty Images......
Quote from: HV71 on February 11, 2021, 08:32:59 PM
Be careful Jetty Images......
Sir, that there is quality.
I give you "Post of the week"
Thank you
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuCcYutWgAYcoGW?format=jpg&name=small)
Quite a view, isn't it!!
What a view. Will be famous that
Wow.
Completely stunning view, that.
Will they be selling oxygen at the turnstiles.
Binoculars will be useful, hopefully it wont be like Newcastle.
Bit of a deceptive photo as it's taken from just underneath the roof. The back tier of seats are actually quite a bit lower if you look at photos taken pitchside. Hi
Looks taller than our noisy neighbours down at the Broadway!
Amazing!
I never did understand cantilevers. I suspect that, like heavier than air flight, they only stay up by collective faith.
Hope they've factored-in the additional weight of the icicles.
If you live in the right direction from the Cottage you could send flashlight signals home to the wife and save on mobile phone bills.
Quote from: cmg on February 12, 2021, 05:20:34 PM
Amazing!
I never did understand cantilevers. I suspect that, like heavier than air flight, they only stay up by collective faith.
Hope they've factored-in the additional weight of the icicles.
The work I used to do took into account the weight of possible severe snowfall. Bending moment Mechanical Principles and all.
Would say that wind posses as big a threat, while you try to limit materials to keep the cost down. It's a nice challenge, miss it a little. Retired from engineering a couple of years ago at 28 lol. But prefer to choose when, where(pre covid) and how long I decide I want to work for. But considering to bits and peices for a side hobby, may venture in some small projects later on in life. Maybe in 20 or so years when I'll be getting on in my 50's to help stimulate my brain in a different way.
Going to be bloody cold in an easterly winter gale.
Some older shots in here and some renders but interesting none the less:
https://www.newsteelconstruction.com/wp/stand-up-for-fulham/
Quote from: filham on February 12, 2021, 04:38:21 PM
Will they be selling oxygen at the turnstiles.
Elon Musk is talking to the Khans about putting a Space X launch pad on the roof. Daily trips from London to Mars by 2023-24.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on February 12, 2021, 06:06:20 PM
Quote from: cmg on February 12, 2021, 05:20:34 PM
Amazing!
I never did understand cantilevers. I suspect that, like heavier than air flight, they only stay up by collective faith.
Hope they've factored-in the additional weight of the icicles.
The work I used to do took into account the weight of possible severe snowfall. Bending moment Mechanical Principles and all.
Would say that wind posses as big a threat, while you try to limit materials to keep the cost down. It's a nice challenge, miss it a little. Retired from engineering a couple of years ago at 28 lol. But prefer to choose when, where(pre covid) and how long I decide I want to work for. But considering to bits and peices for a side hobby, may venture in some small projects later on in life. Maybe in 20 or so years when I'll be getting on in my 50's to help stimulate my brain in a different way.
I too was an engineer, spent most of my working life in water but always had an unsatisfied desire to be involved in structures.
Looking at those enormous cantilevers on the new stand brings out strong instincts to prop up the roof with pillars.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 11, 2021, 07:39:53 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et40UWIXEAAUZFM?format=jpg&name=small)
Really starting to take shape now - looking good... the view from the top of the stand overlooking the pitch and london also looks pretty spectacular as expected. Will definitely be a big selling point.
In fact now possible to see the re-construction work at Google maps satellite view.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuMdWwhXUAEZVFs?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eursa-gXUAYJcse?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eursa-oXcAER9sa?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/JTaylorSport/status/1363208279225212928?s=20
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EusVZ3iXMAQX2ru?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EusN0asXYAYP2_F?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EusX-eGWYAMZ5t1?format=jpg&name=small)
:54:Thanks Putney
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
Quote from: filham on February 22, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
The official coverage of our stand has been anything but good. A monthly (if we're lucky) update, with photos that are by that point out of date. Not trying to find another thing to complain about, but it seems like a relatively easy thing to do.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 22, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: filham on February 22, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
The official coverage of our stand has been anything but good. A monthly (if we're lucky) update, with photos that are by that point out of date. Not trying to find another thing to complain about, but it seems like a relatively easy thing to do.
You don't think this is high quality updates? https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Fifteen well written and filmed extensive updates at certain milestones. I believe there will also be a full time lapse video at the end.
Its been good enough for me. At the end of the day, its a construction site.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 22, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: filham on February 22, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
The official coverage of our stand has been anything but good. A monthly (if we're lucky) update, with photos that are by that point out of date. Not trying to find another thing to complain about, but it seems like a relatively easy thing to do.
You don't think this is high quality updates? https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Fifteen well written and filmed extensive updates at certain milestones. I believe there will also be a full time lapse video at the end.
Its been good enough for me. At the end of the day, its a construction site.
Exactly
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 22, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: filham on February 22, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
The official coverage of our stand has been anything but good. A monthly (if we're lucky) update, with photos that are by that point out of date. Not trying to find another thing to complain about, but it seems like a relatively easy thing to do.
You don't think this is high quality updates? https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Fifteen well written and filmed extensive updates at certain milestones. I believe there will also be a full time lapse video at the end.
Its been good enough for me. At the end of the day, its a construction site.
Plus now doubt a DVD when you exit via the gift shop.
Plus now doubt a DVD when you exit via the gift shop.
Will have to be in a blank plastic bag as it's entitled " Huge erection at Craven Cottage "
Quote from: HV71 on February 22, 2021, 06:18:02 PM
Plus now doubt a DVD when you exit via the gift shop.
Will have to be in a blank plastic bag as it's entitled " Huge erection at Craven Cottage "
Ha ha, well done. 👍
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 22, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: filham on February 22, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
The official coverage of our stand has been anything but good. A monthly (if we're lucky) update, with photos that are by that point out of date. Not trying to find another thing to complain about, but it seems like a relatively easy thing to do.
You don't think this is high quality updates? https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Fifteen well written and filmed extensive updates at certain milestones. I believe there will also be a full time lapse video at the end.
Its been good enough for me. At the end of the day, its a construction site.
The latest update is before Christmas, I would have thought as a minimum we could expect a 10 minute report every other month.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 22, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: filham on February 22, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
Time for another update on the OFFAL I would think.
The official coverage of our stand has been anything but good. A monthly (if we're lucky) update, with photos that are by that point out of date. Not trying to find another thing to complain about, but it seems like a relatively easy thing to do.
You don't think this is high quality updates? https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Fifteen well written and filmed extensive updates at certain milestones. I believe there will also be a full time lapse video at the end.
Its been good enough for me. At the end of the day, its a construction site.
No, I don't think it's very good.
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
The queue at Click and Collect might be a long one.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
Yes, the club probably like to do milestone releases.
The first time I attended at the cottage for a Fulham match years and years ago it was from the Riverside.
Next time I hope I'll repeat that. It's so hard to wait.
Quote from: G_Gribby on February 23, 2021, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
Yes, the club probably like to do milestone releases.
The first time I attended at the cottage for a Fulham match years and years ago it was from the Riverside.
Next time I hope I'll repeat that. It's so hard to wait.
Me too,I'm looking forward to having a drink on the rooftop terrace overlooking the Pool and the River,Chin Chin
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
May be sooner than we think. Was out for a walk in Wandsworth Park (the one by the river in Putney) and saw the latest barge being towed upriver with another section of roof on it.
Don't know if you've ever seen one of these deliveries. They have a bloke in full Emergency Orange kit standing on top of the roof section as it heads up-river. My guess is that he's there to tell them if there's not enough draft for the barge and its load to get under a bridge. Just hope they only do deliveries on the ebb tide, so they don't get washed into a bridge!
Quote from: Kemosabe on February 23, 2021, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
May be sooner than we think. Was out for a walk in Wandsworth Park (the one by the river in Putney) and saw the latest barge being towed upriver with another section of roof on it.
Don't know if you've ever seen one of these deliveries. They have a bloke in full Emergency Orange kit standing on top of the roof section as it heads up-river. My guess is that he's there to tell them if there's not enough draft for the barge and its load to get under a bridge. Just hope they only do deliveries on the ebb tide, so they don't get washed into a bridge!
Apparently it takes 2 days to float down River from whence it came, they have to stop when tide is wrong.
https://twitter.com/taigaro3/status/1364235820576755713
Nice to see, but. Not exactly a boat-shaped barge that transports the construction.
Why not have it v-shaped? Maybe it could speed up a bit. Or is it only for the docking?
Quote from: G_Gribby on February 24, 2021, 12:28:54 AM
Nice to see, but. Not exactly a boat-shaped barge that transports the construction.
Why not have it v-shaped? Maybe it could speed up a bit. Or is it only for the docking?
Guess its tailor made to the size of the roof sections and as you mentioned something that can be docked nice and close to the Cottage, then sit flat on the river bed when the tide goes out.
Stand looks amazing!
Looks like either the remaining Hammy or Putney end truss.
Only one more after this as the 2 other remaining sections are infilled with separate steels.
Nearly there.
Quote from: G_Gribby on February 23, 2021, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
Yes, the club probably like to do milestone releases.
The first time I attended at the cottage for a Fulham match years and years ago it was from the Riverside.
Next time I hope I'll repeat that. It's so hard to wait.
When I were a lad.... some of my mates used to enter the cottage via the riverside. They walked along the shore at low tide from Bishop's Park and climbed up and over the wall into the ground. I never did it - I was too small to climb over! Anyone else remember that?
What did they do at high tide? Swim! 049:gif
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on February 23, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
https://twitter.com/taigaro3/status/1364235820576755713
You'd have thought that slow little boat in front would move over to one side to let ours past.
I would expect once the roof trusses are in place we might get an official update as a lot of the work left include internal fit out. We may then get some idea of timescale for the rest of the project.
Personally I would be amazed if the Riverside was open before August 2022. Cannot see safety certificates being issued until all the work is finished. Just look how Spurs were made to keep delaying their opening.
Quote from: LittleErn on February 24, 2021, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: G_Gribby on February 23, 2021, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
Yes, the club probably like to do milestone releases.
The first time I attended at the cottage for a Fulham match years and years ago it was from the Riverside.
Next time I hope I'll repeat that. It's so hard to wait.
When I were a lad.... some of my mates used to enter the cottage via the riverside. They walked along the shore at low tide from Bishop's Park and climbed up and over the wall into the ground. I never did it - I was too small to climb over! Anyone else remember that?
I can remember on that corner of Bishop's Park you could reach around for a rope that, if you were athletic enough, you could swing out and shimmy up and over into the Putney End.
Quote from: cmg on February 24, 2021, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on February 23, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
https://twitter.com/taigaro3/status/1364235820576755713
You'd have thought that slow little boat in front would move over to one side to let ours past.
Made me laugh - cheers!
:005:
Quote from: LittleErn on February 24, 2021, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: G_Gribby on February 23, 2021, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 23, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
May be waiting for the last two roof trusses to be put In place?Can't be far off surely.
Yes, the club probably like to do milestone releases.
The first time I attended at the cottage for a Fulham match years and years ago it was from the Riverside.
Next time I hope I'll repeat that. It's so hard to wait.
When I were a lad.... some of my mates used to enter the cottage via the riverside. They walked along the shore at low tide from Bishop's Park and climbed up and over the wall into the ground. I never did it - I was too small to climb over! Anyone else remember that?
There used to be a gap in the fence between the ground and the wood yard next door where the flats are now. The gap was just big enough to let a young lad squeeze through, like me!
I will head down tomorrow morning/evening (depending on when I'm free) for a few photos. Any particular shots or angles anyone wants? Apart from being inside the ground, lol
All your photos are appreciated Putney especially by all of us who cannot get to London to see for ourselves. We can see what is happening with the stand and roof but it's a bit unclear what is happening with the ends of the stand, ie the hotel end and the swimming pool end.
Quote from: sarnian on February 25, 2021, 10:10:27 AM
All your photos are appreciated Putney especially by all of us who cannot get to London to see for ourselves. We can see what is happening with the stand and roof but it's a bit unclear what is happening with the ends of the stand, ie the hotel end and the swimming pool end.
Will try and get a closer up of that tomorrow, then! But the access is limited! Also, not much done on it yet, only at the Hammersmith End has it even started. Putney End will be last as its' their access in.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 25, 2021, 09:10:40 AM
I will head down tomorrow morning/evening (depending on when I'm free) for a few photos. Any particular shots or angles anyone wants? Apart from being inside the ground, lol
Maybe from the far end of Greswell Street showing the imposing new stand in the distance.
Quote from: Riversider on February 25, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 25, 2021, 09:10:40 AM
I will head down tomorrow morning/evening (depending on when I'm free) for a few photos. Any particular shots or angles anyone wants? Apart from being inside the ground, lol
Maybe from the far end of Greswell Street showing the imposing new stand in the distance.
What about from Finlay St with the Cottage in the foreground. I love the view down Finlay St !
Not mine... from Twitter:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvFU4o4XUAAm-5b?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvEmAxZWYAQaZk4?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvElQTVXcAICGkL?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/SimonJohnPalmer/status/1365404986780360711?s=20
https://twitter.com/OldLondonW14/status/1365035863990816770?s=20
I'll start posting the direct tweet so it doesn't seem like I'm taking credit for the photos lol
https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Some great inside shots!
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 26, 2021, 10:04:40 PM
https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Some great inside shots!
Stunning.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 26, 2021, 10:04:40 PM
https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Some great inside shots!
Shouldn't it say FEBRUARY 21' RIVERSIDE UPDATE !!
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 26, 2021, 10:04:40 PM
https://www.fulhamfc.com/riverside-development/updates/
Some great inside shots!
That last fade....wow.
Looks brilliant, can't wait to get back. However sitting in the Riverside during a freezing easterly gale at home to Burnley on a January evening sitting high up in the stand doesn't look so appealing.
Views look amazing.
How steep are the steps going to be. Freeze the video on 18 seconds and have a look. Us oldies may need an escalator to get to our seats and my wife will have to bring her inhaler. 092.gif
That said the whole thing looks so impressive and the views from the last few rows of seats will be amazing.
Each update increases the excitement.
I have always requested a Christmas gift of 10 days holiday in the Bahamas with a couple of Bond girls, I think next year I will replace that with a ticket for a high level seat in our new stand.
I could have a zip wire straight to my house, not that I would be able to get to the top.
Quote from: sarnian on February 26, 2021, 10:58:52 PM
Looks brilliant, can't wait to get back. However sitting in the Riverside during a freezing easterly gale at home to Burnley on a January evening sitting high up in the stand doesn't look so appealing.
Haha.. was thinking that too. Wonder what it'll actually be like..
Quote from: General on February 27, 2021, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: sarnian on February 26, 2021, 10:58:52 PM
Looks brilliant, can't wait to get back. However sitting in the Riverside during a freezing easterly gale at home to Burnley on a January evening sitting high up in the stand doesn't look so appealing.
Haha.. was thinking that too. Wonder what it'll actually be like..
Well, us Riversiders are known for our car blankets & flasks! Wouldn't surprise me if they install heated seats?
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https://twitter.com/MichaelaFFC/status/1365655704493826051?s=20
Some stills from the video update:
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Quote from: _Putney_ on February 27, 2021, 02:47:02 PM
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Those shots from Greswell Street are mightily impressive, when you imagine that the floodlights are still to go across the roof line it will be interesting to see the impact on the local area when we have a night game (and yes I realise the lights will be pointing down but they will still be highly visible)
It's looking sexier by the day.
Looking at the picture of the old stand really puts it into perspective. To think that over the years some people have considered us lacking in ambition.
Whatever they're paying that bloke on the steels at 0.27...it isn't enough.
When the swimming pool is built it's going to be one hell of a dive off the top board!
One of the things which I think we fail to point out enough is just how impressive it is that they have managed to build this monstrosity of a stand with no interruption to play at the ground. I mean, how do you build a Saturn V rocket and simultaneously play football matches right beside the gantry? Great engineers, that's how.
I hope that's "monstrosity" in a good way....?
Something that's really going to spoil that view is Stamford bridge. Can definitely see straight over to it at the top.
It's funny how camera shots can be deceptive. I would've thought the Shard would look a lot closer than that from those top of the stand pics. I've taken photos of it from the bottom of my street in Hillingdon (surprise surprise)& it doesn't look much further away than those
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on February 27, 2021, 04:26:36 PM
When the swimming pool is built it's going to be one hell of a dive off the top board!
We should get Callum Wilson to open it.
Quote from: _Putney_ on February 27, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Some stills from the video update:
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Just a very unique and cool looking stand. Can't wait till it's finished. Suppose the question next will be which stand afterwards!
https://twitter.com/dcanbulut/status/1366691754448211970?s=20
You can see the Putney End part of the 'leisure centre/hotel' starting to pop up now!
Quote from: scotto2000 on February 28, 2021, 09:20:11 AM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on February 27, 2021, 04:26:36 PM
When the swimming pool is built it's going to be one hell of a dive off the top board!
We should get Callum Wilson to open it.
Genious :005:
Are we going to be the only football club with a swimming pool? So when 2-0 down at home and the oppo tell us "You're sh*te and you know you are" we can respond with "We've got a swimming pool, we've got a swimming pool". That should quieten them down.
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on February 27, 2021, 05:35:10 PM
One of the things which I think we fail to point out enough is just how impressive it is that they have managed to build this monstrosity of a stand with no interruption to play at the ground. I mean, how do you build a Saturn V rocket and simultaneously play football matches right beside the gantry? Great engineers, that's how.
Agree , the main access must have been from the river and that in itself is an achievement.
https://twitter.com/David_Friend01/status/1366325082864443393
https://twitter.com/MelanieP74/status/1366072240786333698
https://twitter.com/twiggsonia/status/1367523603261116417
https://twitter.com/AlasdairGold/status/1367516599629058054
https://twitter.com/Dan_KP/status/1367516930811305984
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Are those seats? or am i seeing things
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https://twitter.com/emmajonessport/status/1367528332850585600
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 04, 2021, 05:39:49 PM
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Are those seats? or am i seeing things
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Must be either seats, or at least the frames for the seats.
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Quote from: _Putney_ on March 04, 2021, 05:39:49 PM
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Are those seats? or am i seeing things
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Must be either seats, or at least the frames for the seats.
I asked the same Qs of Peter Rutzler and he said they're seats! :yay:
Terrific update on official club website this morning!
Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on March 06, 2021, 11:43:22 AM
Terrific update on official club website this morning!
Agree, very informative, looks like a hell of a lot of work scheduled in next three months. I noticed however there was no indication of completion date.
Roll on getting back to the Cottage. 049:gif
Fascinating and amazing in equal measure. Can't wait to get my seat back there
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2021/march/March-Riverside-Update/
https://twitter.com/truemagic68/status/1368984316785623046
https://twitter.com/JWH891989/status/1368592182899138562
I wonder if commentators and other clubs will still refer to us little old Fulham after the new stand is opened. It's certainly a statement of intent. I'm sure Mr Al Fayed will get a lot of pleasure seeing it, after all the groundwork he put in to making our club competitive again. A shame that Jimmy Hill isn't around to witness it - another one who did so much to get us where we are now.
Absolutely brilliant and for me makes the ground even more beautiful. Is there a better stadium in the world that provides history, uniqueness complimented by stunning modern architecture, location and views. We are Fulham and thanks to all of those that at the top who have played their part in turning our club around. Fulham Park Rangers or Torquay away anyone.
Quote from: bencher on March 09, 2021, 07:53:28 AM
A shame that Jimmy Hill isn't around to witness it - another one who did so much to get us where we are now.
Good comment, very true
I wonder when that last section of the roof at the Putney end is due to be fitted. will be good to see a complete roof in place.
Seats going in, won't be long before we're back in the ground and able to see it all, I will still be in the Hammersmith end though.
My daughter Zoe and I will be in the JH stand as usual so we will be able to get a great view of it. 👍
How many on here that are not historically Riversiders , are considering leaving their normal place of abode to transfer over to the new stand ?
Will be very interesting to see how much displacement takes place.
Quote from: filham on March 09, 2021, 09:51:36 AM
I wonder when that last section of the roof at the Putney end is due to be fitted. will be good to see a complete roof in place.
I had a wander this morning, not sure but it looked like it has been because the crane has now moved to Hammersmith end. That jack up barge with the crane on is massive.
Quote from: bencher on March 09, 2021, 07:53:28 AM
I wonder if commentators and other clubs will still refer to us little old Fulham after the new stand is opened. It's certainly a statement of intent. I'm sure Mr Al Fayed will get a lot of pleasure seeing it, after all the groundwork he put in to making our club competitive again. A shame that Jimmy Hill isn't around to witness it - another one who did so much to get us where we are now.
Always irtitates me when I constantly hear people describing the Cottage as a quaint little ground, don't mind the quaint bit but it's not little & never has been.
Funny you mention Jimmy Hill because when the club were striving ahead with the CPO, the original preferred scheme was to knock down both end terraces, move the pitch towards the Putney end & build flats with 2 little Griffin Park style "Wendy house" stands in front. The end sections of both side stands that no longer faced the pitch were going to be converted to house some lounges etc. The capacity was going to be 15,000, bear in mind this was before the advent of all seaters, so that would've been slashed in later years
I wrote to Jimmy Hill saying this would forever consign Fulham to be a small club with no hope of attracting the attendances we could if fortunes were to improve in the future
He replied thanking me for my letter & then went on to say quite bluntly that when Fulham were turning people away because the ground was full, that was a problem he'd be quite happy to have & he wasn't going to lose any sleep worrying over what might happen, I thought that was quite an odd thing to come out with. I've still got the letter, just glad things worked out differently. I know we wouldn't be here is it wasn't for Jimmy Hill, we owe him a massive debt but he did wing it a bit & we got lucky
Quote from: Riversider on March 09, 2021, 02:10:00 PM
How many on here that are not historically Riversiders , are considering leaving their normal place of abode to transfer over to the new stand ?
Will be very interesting to see how much displacement takes place.
I am.
Quote from: Riversider on March 09, 2021, 02:10:00 PM
How many on here that are not historically Riversiders , are considering leaving their normal place of abode to transfer over to the new stand ?
Will be very interesting to see how much displacement takes place.
First match there and also most matches there. However of course from the other beautiful sides as well.
I will probably still be a Riversider in the future.
Your welcome to join us in the Riverside however those of us that were moved for the rebuild must have first choice of seats. 049:gif
Quote from: sarnian on March 09, 2021, 06:26:51 PM
Your welcome to join us in the Riverside however those of us that were moved for the rebuild must have first choice of seats. 049:gif
I don't think I could afford it. Early indications suggested it will be quite premium pricing.
Since returning from Loftus Road I have become a regular in the JH stand and intend to remain there. However I would like the experience of just one match high up in the new stand.
https://twitter.com/LondonPortAuth/status/1369983475474894849
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Quote from: Twig on March 09, 2021, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: sarnian on March 09, 2021, 06:26:51 PM
Your welcome to join us in the Riverside however those of us that were moved for the rebuild must have first choice of seats. 049:gif
I don't think I could afford it. Early indications suggested it will be quite premium pricing.
Do we have any idea how much the cheaper season tickets will be?
Quote from: SP on March 11, 2021, 07:07:32 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 09, 2021, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: sarnian on March 09, 2021, 06:26:51 PM
Your welcome to join us in the Riverside however those of us that were moved for the rebuild must have first choice of seats. 049:gif
I don't think I could afford it. Early indications suggested it will be quite premium pricing.
Do we have any idea how much the cheaper season tickets will be?
Won't be cheap. The lower tier will be cheapest as they will be more exposed to the elements.
Wow, when that final roof cantilever is fixed it will be the end of the major structural phase I imagine . Must be well past the point of no return now, never really believed we would see anything as grand as this at the Cottage.
Good word filham "GRAND" it really is. 049:gif
1) Could someone inform me of the cost of a premium season ticket (V block) in the Old Riverside.
2) Wow 60 pages on this one subject and if there was a vote, I'd say it was the best thread ever.
Slightly alarmed & bit disappointed to read the chairman notes saying the stand won't be fully completed until summer 2022, that's around a year behind schedule.
I understand how Covid has, & is continuing to cause delays but that's around another 15 months. I see they say depending how the facilities are coming along, some seats will be available, but by the time it's finished it will have been three years since it's predecessor was put out of use, that seems incredibly long
It will be worth the wait. I'm sure the stand will be used in an increasing way throughout next season but it will still be a building site until all elements are finished including the hotel and leisure facilities. I am going to rejoice in what the final product will bring rather than worry over the completion date.
In the mean time the US ice hockey club New York Islanders are building av new arena at Belmont Park, Long Island. They don't seems to have any delay's. I also read somewhere it will have safe standing sections as the fans asked for it.
https://twitter.com/arlowhite/status/1370781453680795648
https://twitter.com/beINSPORTS_EN/status/1370808642748956677
https://twitter.com/JTaylorSport/status/1370819734577496068
https://twitter.com/twiggsonia/status/1370821494813696004
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1370808746734194694
https://twitter.com/charlescyoung/status/1372868290943549441
https://twitter.com/BroadcastMoose/status/1372975601783603208
Grey seats?
Quote from: fulhamross on March 19, 2021, 07:12:09 PM
Grey seats?
Maybe covers until the building works are done incase of damage?
tweet disappeared so here:
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A lot of major civil engineering projects tend to run late and this one is particularly complex with added problems caused by Covid. Lets hope we can see some spectators in seats next season.
https://twitter.com/daveshoppers/status/1373208385001259008
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 20, 2021, 10:43:32 AM
https://twitter.com/daveshoppers/status/1373208385001259008
Those seats are grey aren't they, seems a bit strange 🤔
Quote from: Riversider on March 20, 2021, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 20, 2021, 10:43:32 AM
Those seats are grey aren't they, seems a bit strange 🤔
This its plastic covers over black seats, therefore appearing grey. I thought the same thing at first!
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 20, 2021, 02:09:02 PM
Quote from: Riversider on March 20, 2021, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 20, 2021, 10:43:32 AM
Those seats are grey aren't they, seems a bit strange 🤔
This its plastic covers over black seats, therefore appearing grey. I thought the same thing at first!
Thank God for that 👍🏻
If you look closely - enlarge the image - there are a very small number of seats where the covers appear to have come off and you can see they are black
Final roof truss is on as of today I think!
Quote from: Deeping_white on March 22, 2021, 03:02:50 PM
Final roof truss is on as of today I think!
Correct! I'll look for some pictures otherwise I'll pop down to the river tomorrow. There is a tiny bit more that needs to go on which extends over the stand.
https://twitter.com/tarabluesky/status/1374000711189549056
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 22, 2021, 03:23:26 PM
https://twitter.com/tarabluesky/status/1374000711189549056
Normally go down & every couple of weeks or so & take a few pics, after watching that latest Buckingham update I'll give it to probably mid April as they reckon not much will happen visually until they start putting the glass on later in the month
Really looking good, can't wait to see it in the flesh.
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1374056530438406150
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 23, 2021, 08:42:18 AM
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1374056530438406150
I wonder if they're drilling for oil, while they're at it ? :005:
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
Yeah, it's interesting. I'm not sure how that's expected to work. Especially as the Riverside will inevitably be the 'posher' seats you wouldn't expect people to sit through a wet night.
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 23, 2021, 08:42:18 AM
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1374056530438406150
Bathtime fun at the Cottage
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 23, 2021, 10:33:21 PM
Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
Yeah, it's interesting. I'm not sure how that's expected to work. Especially as the Riverside will inevitably be the 'posher' seats you wouldn't expect people to sit through a wet night.
I think they will have to put something up for safety otherwise you might go tumbling over after a few half time pints. Maybe the material is too fragile to transport on the large roof sections and will be afixed now the full roof is in place?
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Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
I asked this question before any building started, apparently it will be fully glazed to keep the weather from streaming down on peoples backs, it would be freezing if windy in the winter.
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on March 24, 2021, 01:27:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 23, 2021, 10:33:21 PM
Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
Yeah, it's interesting. I'm not sure how that's expected to work. Especially as the Riverside will inevitably be the 'posher' seats you wouldn't expect people to sit through a wet night.
I think they will have to put something up for safety otherwise you might go tumbling over after a few half time pints. Maybe the material is too fragile to transport on the large roof sections and will be afixed now the full roof is in place?
From what I've seen there is a barrier of some sort, but it doesn't extend to the roof. If Southdowns White was answered accurately then the full glazing just hasn't shown up on the plans.
Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
This has already been raised and well documented on here, the glazing will not cover the full gap between the roof and the seats, according to The F.S.T and the club the wind won't be an issue,
I will allow Mike Gregg to further explain ,and yes you are all right, it will be absolutely bloody freezing on certain days.
With new turnstiles to the Putney end now possible, does the riverside development act as the final nail in the coffin for any 'neutral' end. I know we had to do this due to everyone going through one entrance, but now this isn't the case will there be an 'away only' section I wonder?
Quote from: Riversider on March 24, 2021, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
This has already been raised and well documented on here, the glazing will not cover the full gap between the roof and the seats, according to The F.S.T and the club the wind won't be an issue,
I will allow Mike Gregg to further explain ,and yes you are all right, it will be absolutely bloody freezing on certain days.
The few times that I went in the Riverside it was freezing cold because it doesn't get the sun. The same will apply to teh new stand. Good luck to those who choose to pay more to sit there!
make sure you wear a scarf in there!
Quote from: Riversider on March 24, 2021, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: sarnian on March 23, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
Looking at the plans and seeing the the pictures with the roof fitted it appears that the area between the roof and the back row of seats will not be glazed. Just thinking that will there be any protection for fans sitting at the back of the new stand if it's blowing a westerly gale and pouring with rain. Could be really cold on a February night.
This has already been raised and well documented on here, the glazing will not cover the full gap between the roof and the seats, according to The F.S.T and the club the wind won't be an issue,
I will allow Mike Gregg to further explain ,and yes you are all right, it will be absolutely bloody freezing on certain days.
Oh Yeah! Nor the rain coming in sideways! On another weather note, I used to sit in the JH stand and at certain times of year, a sunny day meant a need to shield eyes to see play. I guess the likelihood of that is far less now and much of the pitch will be in shadow? (I hate watching tv games where that's the case - Newcastle's St James Park has that problem)
Quote from: JoeS on March 24, 2021, 10:23:40 AM
With new turnstiles to the Putney end now possible, does the riverside development act as the final nail in the coffin for any 'neutral' end. I know we had to do this due to everyone going through one entrance, but now this isn't the case will there be an 'away only' section I wonder?
That's a very good point that I hadn't considered myself or seen elsewhere. This "neutral end" bashing we get from other fans really winds me up. I get so bored of telling them it's not a neutral end, it's a way of not having unsold 4000 seats
Be interesting to see if away fans can get their own dedicated entrances, Maybe moving them over to the Cottage side, not sure if they could have no access for the Riverside at the Cottage entrances though?
https://twitter.com/_LOSsport/status/1374732107810021378
It looks a bit like a cruise liner, just missing a funnel.
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 24, 2021, 04:56:44 PM
https://twitter.com/_LOSsport/status/1374732107810021378
My old school, Spent many hours either on the playing fields or even rowing up and down the Thames with one eye on the football ground.
my son has played there a couple of times in u12/13 footie - the new stand is MUCH more impressive than the old one from those piccies
My mouse mat of the ground is now out of date!
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on March 25, 2021, 12:01:24 PM
My mouse mat of the ground is now out of date!
Same. I have one with FX Pro on the roof.
I was also lucky enough to have ahelicopter ride down the Thames a few years back and went over the ground. Great pics of that too. Might have to invest in another trip once the stand (and Covid) has finished.
I used to play at Barnes Elm when I was at Holland Park Comprehensive in the late 60's...not even the old riverside had been built then...must look stunning from there now....
https://twitter.com/IJzendoornV/status/1376859249821777925
Quote from: Lewes White on March 25, 2021, 06:38:08 PM
I used to play at Barnes Elm when I was at Holland Park Comprehensive in the late 60's...not even the old riverside had been built then...must look stunning from there now....
I used to play at Barn Elms and also row on the river while at Holland park school, and look at the Riverside stand. Thd new one looks amazing and cant wait to see it.
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 01, 2021, 08:40:52 AM
https://twitter.com/IJzendoornV/status/1376859249821777925
Nice photo and hard to disagree with the attached comment : One of England's most beautiful stadiums
Quote from: Southdowns White on March 25, 2021, 08:16:16 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 24, 2021, 04:56:44 PM
https://twitter.com/_LOSsport/status/1374732107810021378
My old school, Spent many hours either on the playing fields or even rowing up and down the Thames with one eye on the football ground.
That stand does look so impressive. I went to Cardinal Vaughan School and played your school in cup games there. I'm really glad the grounds have not been swallowed up for housing development. Haven't been down the riverside in 50 years but will go when I come over next season to visit Craven Cottage
Looks as if the roof is all but complete so I imagine the fitting out will soon commence. With summer months ahead , covid relaxation and only 3 matches left we should have a some moths of fast progress.
Await further pictures with interest.
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1377558315174137856
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1377558989492338690
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1377559236289437697
thanks - great pics nice to see
Thank you to all who have kept us up to date with progress with some great pics - can't wait to see it for real
Amazing!
Someone on TFI claiming the ST prices will start around £850. Pretty good value if true, even located in the end sections. Presumably, there'll be a buffer on prices depending on which league we're in?
Fabulous photos - thank you
Quote from: SP on April 08, 2021, 09:18:59 PM
Someone on TFI claiming the ST prices will start around £850. Pretty good value if true, even located in the end sections. Presumably, there'll be a buffer on prices depending on which league we're in?
It's complete and utter b*****ks !
Nobody on Earth knows the price of season tickets in that new stand 16 months from now, what division will we be in for a start !
Some people are so gullible.
Quote from: Riversider on April 09, 2021, 02:36:48 AM
Quote from: SP on April 08, 2021, 09:18:59 PM
Someone on TFI claiming the ST prices will start around £850. Pretty good value if true, even located in the end sections. Presumably, there'll be a buffer on prices depending on which league we're in?
It's complete and utter b*****ks !
Nobody on Earth knows the price of season tickets in that new stand 16 months from now, what division will we be in for a start !
Some people are so gullible.
Have to agree with this, they wont know at this stage how much its going to be. Having been in meetings a number of times they leave the setting of prices very late in the day.
Quote from: Riversider on April 09, 2021, 02:36:48 AM
Quote from: SP on April 08, 2021, 09:18:59 PM
Someone on TFI claiming the ST prices will start around £850. Pretty good value if true, even located in the end sections. Presumably, there'll be a buffer on prices depending on which league we're in?
It's complete and utter b*****ks !
Nobody on Earth knows the price of season tickets in that new stand 16 months from now, what division will we be in for a start !
Some people are so gullible.
What a charming response from a fellow Riversider, each to their own. I was merely highlighting a discussion on another board, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion I was taking this as gospel?
Have a great weekend.
Quote from: SP on April 09, 2021, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 09, 2021, 02:36:48 AM
Quote from: SP on April 08, 2021, 09:18:59 PM
Someone on TFI claiming the ST prices will start around £850. Pretty good value if true, even located in the end sections. Presumably, there'll be a buffer on prices depending on which league we're in?
It's complete and utter b*****ks !
Nobody on Earth knows the price of season tickets in that new stand 16 months from now, what division will we be in for a start !
Some people are so gullible.
What a charming response from a fellow Riversider, each to their own. I was merely highlighting a discussion on another board, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion I was taking this as gospel?
Have a great weekend.
I was referring to the original post on the other forum,
If it was you that made it then I stand by what I say, if it wasn't you then why all the drama 🤷
Thanks for the photos much appreciated. Thanks God the pubs open next week might make some people chill a little.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on April 09, 2021, 04:19:19 PM
Thanks for the photos much appreciated. Thanks God the pubs open next week might make some people chill a little.
Not exactly pub garden weather next week,. However, I feel it is my duty to go.... 🍻
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyjC3htXAAEogYk?format=jpg&name=small)
Putney, what a picture. That is not just the result of a wide angle lens, how did you manage it. Is it a computer programme that stiches a number of shots together.
The stand is looking great.
Oops that's what I was afraid of, I did not take that. It's from Twitter.
Here is another
https://twitter.com/tmhardy16/status/1380580361932013569?s=20
https://twitter.com/ZiyaAdnan/status/1380577000549711882?s=20
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 09, 2021, 06:26:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyjC3htXAAEogYk?format=jpg&name=small)
We may not have the best team in the country but that new Riverside stand and all the facilities that go with it must surely be one of the best in the country,
It needs Premier League football though for it to be full every week.
Great photos and an interesting report.
It occurs to me that a few of those wide angle shots taken of the Hammy end goal and shown to our attacking players just before KO could replace Parker's pre match team talk with good effect
This thread may be the only reason for me to visit the forum at the moment; couldn't believe it was so far down the thread list. This post should bring it back to its rightful position.
Was there a couple of hours ago, they're putting the final steel frames up of the hotel at the Hammersmith end
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Was there a couple of hours ago, they're putting the final steel frames up of the hotel at the Hammersmith end
Nice! Were you able to get any photos?
Thanks Hillingdon. For those of us that do not live in the Uk or live close to the ground we have to rely on the updates on this site and occasional updates on the offal. The photos on here are much appreciated. 049:gif
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 23, 2021, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Was there a couple of hours ago, they're putting the final steel frames up of the hotel at the Hammersmith end
Nice! Were you able to get any photos?
Only a couple, not sure how to post though
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 23, 2021, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 23, 2021, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Was there a couple of hours ago, they're putting the final steel frames up of the hotel at the Hammersmith end
Nice! Were you able to get any photos?
Only a couple, not sure how to post though
Easiest way is to upload them here and post the links
https://pasteboard.co/
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 23, 2021, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 23, 2021, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 23, 2021, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Was there a couple of hours ago, they're putting the final steel frames up of the hotel at the Hammersmith end
Nice! Were you able to get any photos?
Only a couple, not sure how to post though
Easiest way is to upload them here and post the links
https://pasteboard.co/
How do I do it then mate?
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1385602354767187972
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 23, 2021, 03:46:14 PM
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1385602354767187972
Cheers mate😉👍
https://twitter.com/journ9ale/status/1387440511934414850?s=20
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 23, 2021, 03:46:14 PM
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1385602354767187972
Does anyone know how big this hotel will be. How many rooms?
Quote from: Fulham76 on April 28, 2021, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on April 23, 2021, 03:46:14 PM
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1385602354767187972
Does anyone know how big this hotel will be. How many rooms?
It's actually a bed and breakfast.
Believe I read somewhere 15 rooms.
https://twitter.com/JustinCorbin4/status/1387657280053731330
Please keep them coming. It will look magnificent, and I have just noticed it actually bends with the river. Or is that my imagination, thanks for posting.
Do we know when the likely first game with the stand opened will be?
Never get bored with this treasured extension to our home, any pics are just marvellous to those of us not living in the vicinity.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 30, 2021, 04:41:51 AM
Do we know when the likely first game with the stand opened will be?
Didn't the club say the pitch facing part, so the seats, will be ready for start of 21/22 but there will be some work still being done to the internals and Riverside facing part?
That was stated by the club but seeing the problems Spurs had with safety certificates I cannot see the new stand being allowed spectators if other work is still going on.
Never get bored seeing the stand develop H.Appreciate you taking the time to post.Cheers
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Quote from: Fernhurst on April 30, 2021, 05:34:45 AM
Never get bored with this treasured extension to our home, any pics are just marvellous to those of us not living in the vicinity.
As it's due for opening in 2022/23 season, probably Accrington Stanley 😄
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Strange that the architects didn't consider that fully in the first place. Another example of "form over function" I guess.
World class ancillary facilities, average looking stand inside I'm terms of size for championship or premier league football.
Unpopular opinion perhaps but I much preferred Mr Fayeds design. It was suited for Football. No big gap up the top, though I guess the new design was a business and profit choice.
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
[quote author=Riversider
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
[/quote]
Oh I don't know, not seeing what's happening on the pitch might be a bonus!
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
I would be very much surprised if that gap was 'filled in' in reference to protection. Might be done kind of clear screen.
The Al Fayed stand was fine, dull, ugly but fine. Don't blame the club for thinking they might want to make more of the riverside opportunity.
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
It doesn't matter if the hospitality can see the pitch or not. Don't curtains/blinds get drawn at kick-off anyway because of the alcohol sale laws?
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
Also, I thought there appeared to be glass viewing 'boxes' shown clearly on the design images between lower and upper tier. I think they actually are in much larger corporate spaces than traditional boxes. Design changed?
Quote from: fcfulham55 on April 30, 2021, 11:40:38 PM
World class ancillary facilities, average looking stand inside I'm terms of size for championship or premier league football.
Unpopular opinion perhaps but I much preferred Mr Fayeds design. It was suited for Football. No big gap up the top, though I guess the new design was a business and profit choice.
All about opinions but for me it's an amazing looking stand from inside. Roof looks spectacular. To get a 9000 capacity stand with seven levels on such a confined site is an engineering marvel
Massive upgrade on facilities in terms of space & variety from Fayeds design & only holds a few hundred less
Quote from: RoyTund on May 01, 2021, 06:41:03 AM
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
Also, I thought there appeared to be glass viewing 'boxes' shown clearly on the design images between lower and upper tier. I think they actually are in much larger corporate spaces than traditional boxes. Design changed?
As far as all the drawings show there does seem to be a line of boxes. It's on the level the temporary road is so until that's removed we won't see if they're going in
Can't think of many if any clubs where hospitality lounges face the pitch. Fulham are naturally taking advantage of arguably the grounds greatest asset & that's the river. It was pretty much the reason why Khan wanted to do something different to the Fayed design which didn't really utilise the aspect
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 01, 2021, 07:39:18 AM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on April 30, 2021, 11:40:38 PM
World class ancillary facilities, average looking stand inside I'm terms of size for championship or premier league football.
Unpopular opinion perhaps but I much preferred Mr Fayeds design. It was suited for Football. No big gap up the top, though I guess the new design was a business and profit choice.
All about opinions but for me it's an amazing looking stand from inside. Roof looks spectacular. To get a 9000 capacity stand with seven levels on such a confined site is an engineering marvel
Massive upgrade on facilities in terms of space & variety from Fayeds design & only holds a few hundred less
Yeah I guess me saying average was a bit harsh, it's good. I agree it's a brilliant how they've gone about it with use of the River. 9000 isn't huge, but not small either. Would be so much better if we didn't have that huge gap up the top in my opinion. Still really looking forward to it opening up.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on May 01, 2021, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 01, 2021, 07:39:18 AM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on April 30, 2021, 11:40:38 PM
World class ancillary facilities, average looking stand inside I'm terms of size for championship or premier league football.
Unpopular opinion perhaps but I much preferred Mr Fayeds design. It was suited for Football. No big gap up the top, though I guess the new design was a business and profit choice.
All about opinions but for me it's an amazing looking stand from inside. Roof looks spectacular. To get a 9000 capacity stand with seven levels on such a confined site is an engineering marvel
Massive upgrade on facilities in terms of space & variety from Fayeds design & only holds a few hundred less
Yeah I guess me saying average was a bit harsh, it's good. I agree it's a brilliant how they've gone about it with use of the River. 9000 isn't huge, but not small either. Would be so much better if we didn't have that huge gap up the top in my opinion. Still really looking forward to it opening up.
The fact it's so steep makes it look bigger than its capacity too. I really like the gap but as many have mentioned there was going to be issues with a freezing cold wind blowing along the Thames in winter months. Apparently it's going to be partially glazed up there now
The old scheme looked much more like every boring average new stadium you get these days... Crystal Palace's new design comes to mind... Our new stand is unique, much like the rest of the Cottage.
Quote from: deadcowboys on May 01, 2021, 02:22:46 AM
Quote from: Riversider
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
Oh I don't know, not seeing what's happening on the pitch might be a bonus!
Yes, with only nine Fulham goals at the Cottage this season I think I will be better off next season looking for mirages on the surface of the Thames.
Mod: Bracket Cleanup
Quote from: _Putney_ on May 01, 2021, 10:42:35 AM
The old scheme looked much more like every boring average new stadium you get these days... Crystal Palace's new design comes to mind... Our new stand is unique, much like the rest of the Cottage.
Fayeds original was designed by the same people who have done Palace's, theirs is just a bigger version.
Really liked it at the time but now our current design makes it look very run of the mill imho
I quite often wander round the Hammersmith end to see the progress, and I find that I am having a discussion with myself as to whether I like it or not.
https://twitter.com/BurnleyOfficial/status/1391802707204349957
https://twitter.com/RoscoHeaton/status/1391815876454895617
https://twitter.com/twiggsonia/status/1391816936712024066
Floodlights are on in the new stand!!
https://twitter.com/FulhargFc/status/1391818346082050056
https://twitter.com/andyhodgsontv/status/1391882558158393350
https://twitter.com/ZiyaAdnan/status/1391872237775491075
https://twitter.com/AlexJamesSport/status/1391874610430349314
Looks like most of the seats are in place already.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 01, 2021, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on May 01, 2021, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 01, 2021, 07:39:18 AM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on April 30, 2021, 11:40:38 PM
World class ancillary facilities, average looking stand inside I'm terms of size for championship or premier league football.
Unpopular opinion perhaps but I much preferred Mr Fayeds design. It was suited for Football. No big gap up the top, though I guess the new design was a business and profit choice.
All about opinions but for me it's an amazing looking stand from inside. Roof looks spectacular. To get a 9000 capacity stand with seven levels on such a confined site is an engineering marvel
Massive upgrade on facilities in terms of space & variety from Fayeds design & only holds a few hundred less
Yeah I guess me saying average was a bit harsh, it's good. I agree it's a brilliant how they've gone about it with use of the River. 9000 isn't huge, but not small either. Would be so much better if we didn't have that huge gap up the top in my opinion. Still really looking forward to it opening up.
The fact it's so steep makes it look bigger than its capacity too. I really like the gap but as many have mentioned there was going to be issues with a freezing cold wind blowing along the Thames in winter months. Apparently it's going to be partially glazed up there now
If you are in the corporate seats at Arsenal the cold wind whips around that stadium too, even when it isn't actually cold outside.
Quote from: _Putney_ on May 11, 2021, 08:28:00 AM
https://twitter.com/andyhodgsontv/status/1391882558158393350
https://twitter.com/ZiyaAdnan/status/1391872237775491075
https://twitter.com/AlexJamesSport/status/1391874610430349314
Looking at the picture of the Putney End and the new stand it appears that the Riverside rake of seats is very steep.
My current seat in the Putney which is a few rows from the back looks to be the same height as the first third of seats in the upper stand of the Riverside. A lot of us who moved on demolition and want to return to the Riverside are of the older generation. Are the club going to supply oxygen to allow us to return to the Riverside if we are anywhere near the back of the new stand.
You'll need oxygen at the front as well to get you through a closer view of our turgid displays if nothing changes.
Looks nearly ready. Will it be ready in time for new season?
It looks so steep that some of us oldens might be going up the stairs on our hands and knee's!
Quote from: ron on May 11, 2021, 10:06:09 AM
You'll need oxygen at the front as well to get you through a closer view of our turgid displays if nothing changes.
Not to mention free caffeine drinks to keep the crowd awake if this football stays the same next season.
One of the main visible developments from the last home game is the removal of the two temporary floodlight pilons and the new floodlights having been installed along the roof.
Quote from: fulhamross on May 11, 2021, 11:44:33 AM
Looks nearly ready. Will it be ready in time for new season?
It's nowhere near ready, opens officially in August 2022
Quote from: bobby01 on May 11, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
Looks like most of the seats are in place already.
That is what I thought, just the parachutes to be attached to them now.
Quote from: colham on May 01, 2021, 06:40:50 AM
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
It doesn't matter if the hospitality can see the pitch or not. Don't curtains/blinds get drawn at kick-off anyway because of the alcohol sale laws?
They have a thing these days called privacy glass, I've yet to see a hospitality box with curtains 😂
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 01, 2021, 07:48:58 AM
Quote from: RoyTund on May 01, 2021, 06:41:03 AM
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
Also, I thought there appeared to be glass viewing 'boxes' shown clearly on the design images between lower and upper tier. I think they actually are in much larger corporate spaces than traditional boxes. Design changed?
As far as all the drawings show there does seem to be a line of boxes. It's on the level the temporary road is so until that's removed we won't see if they're going in
Can't think of many if any clubs where hospitality lounges face the pitch. Fulham are naturally taking advantage of arguably the grounds greatest asset & that's the river. It was pretty much the reason why Khan wanted to do something different to the Fayed design which didn't really utilise the aspect
Wembley , Tottenham, Reading, QPR, Glasgow Rangers, Luton Town, Ipswich Town, actually it would be a lot easier if you produced a list of Clubs that haven't got pitch facing hospitality boxes.
Quote from: filham on May 12, 2021, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on May 11, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
Looks like most of the seats are in place already.
That is what I thought, just the parachutes to be attached to them now.
...and a yoyo string of course 🤗⚽️👍
Quote from: Riversider on May 13, 2021, 07:41:28 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 01, 2021, 07:48:58 AM
Quote from: RoyTund on May 01, 2021, 06:41:03 AM
Quote from: Riversider on May 01, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: _Putney_ on April 30, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on April 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
From the pictures, it seems to have a floating roof.
If the back of the stand is not filled in the wind of the thames would be pretty chilly for any of us old folks who might venture there. (cost permitting).
From the latest FST meeting minutes:
"Protection from the elements -
Some supporters have asked whether the stand will provide sufficient protection, particularly towards the back, from wind and rain. The Club confirmed that they have modified the design slightly to ensure this protection will be provided."
Won't say I told you so but I did say three years or more ago that the gap at the back was a mistake and that it would be filled in within a year of opening, seems like its going to happen even sooner,
The other glaring mistake (sadly they can't put this right)
Is that none, not one, of the hospitality suites faces the pitch, that is going to prove to be a costly mistake as time goes on,
Also, I thought there appeared to be glass viewing 'boxes' shown clearly on the design images between lower and upper tier. I think they actually are in much larger corporate spaces than traditional boxes. Design changed?
As far as all the drawings show there does seem to be a line of boxes. It's on the level the temporary road is so until that's removed we won't see if they're going in
Can't think of many if any clubs where hospitality lounges face the pitch. Fulham are naturally taking advantage of arguably the grounds greatest asset & that's the river. It was pretty much the reason why Khan wanted to do something different to the Fayed design which didn't really utilise the aspect
Wembley , Tottenham, Reading, QPR, Glasgow Rangers, Luton Town, Ipswich Town, actually it would be a lot easier if you produced a list of Clubs that haven't got pitch facing hospitality boxes.
Sorry misunderstood the original post, Boxes yeah, lounges totally different thing, or they are in my head
Perfect place to put them would've been in the corner blocks but the club had other ideas.
Perhaps having the Stands not facing the pitch would be a Bonus.
We should hear about plans for the the Hammersmith and Putney ends this summer. So I'm told.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on May 21, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
We should hear about plans for the the Hammersmith and Putney ends this summer. So I'm told.
Some safe standing areas perhaps?
Quote from: fcfulham55 on May 21, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
We should hear about plans for the the Hammersmith and Putney ends this summer. So I'm told.
Told by who?
https://twitter.com/milesstarforth/status/1396469833135534084
https://twitter.com/twiggsonia/status/1396469813170556931
https://twitter.com/peter_e_freeman/status/1396468605781487618
https://twitter.com/IzzyBean91/status/1396465924887224321
https://twitter.com/JakubKrupa/status/1396465875579023361
https://twitter.com/milesstarforth/status/1396461412936036354
https://twitter.com/howatbob/status/1396471612938014723
https://twitter.com/jarwisniewski/status/1396470753013424129
Quote from: fcfulham55 on May 21, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
We should hear about plans for the the Hammersmith and Putney ends this summer. So I'm told.
Hearsay or from someone who would know?
So I'm guessing after today's news, the stuff we should be hearing about the Hammersmith and Putney end in the summer, is there's no money to even fix the bogs?
fix the bogs ?
How about fixing the team ?
Three months now before any one is in the ground to get pictures, lets hope the club keep us informed of progress over the summer.
I imagine work now switches to fitting out and will not be readily visible from outside the ground.
Quote from: filham on May 27, 2021, 06:51:26 PM
Three months now before any one is in the ground to get pictures, lets hope the club keep us informed of progress over the summer.
I imagine work now switches to fitting out and will not be readily visible from outside the ground.
Still a long way to go on the outside before work can start inside,
Also the club said at the F.S.T meeting that a video update of the new stand will be out shortly.
Quote from: Riversider on May 27, 2021, 07:09:37 PM
Quote from: filham on May 27, 2021, 06:51:26 PM
Three months now before any one is in the ground to get pictures, lets hope the club keep us informed of progress over the summer.
I imagine work now switches to fitting out and will not be readily visible from outside the ground.
Still a long way to go on the outside before work can start inside,
Also the club said at the F.S.T meeting that a video update of the new stand will be out shortly.
Wonderful update on the Riverside Stand available now on the official, clearly shows the amount of work still to be done and the glazing wasn't mentioned in all that, with some glorious weather and long days ahead it will be interesting to see where we are by the first week of August.
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 11, 2021, 07:20:23 PM
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Thanks - I love the openness, the sense of space and light. Wonder what the plan is for Putney & Hammy Ends?
I think it looks amazing. Bought my season ticket yesterday and can't wait to get back to the cottage. I just hope that COVID doesn't continue to prevent that from happening. We have to accept that it will be impossible to live in a COVID free environment- we just need to get on with it now that the most vulnerable in our society are fully vaccinated.
Wonderful shots thank you. This really is my most favorite thread, the new stand has risen from the riverbank looking quite breathtaking.
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
And to think that back in the 1950's, we were one of the last clubs to have floodlights, because of the structural problems encountered to sink the (2) pylons, so close to the river....Or at least that was what we were told....
Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 12, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
For sure lol
Quote from: ealex40 on June 12, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
And to think that back in the 1950's, we were one of the last clubs to have floodlights, because of the structural problems encountered to sink the (2) pylons, so close to the river....Or at least that was what we were told....
I think the real problem was in sinking hands into pockets to pay for them...
.....in fact, as I recall, the pylons didn't go up until into the 'sixties.
Quote from: ron on June 12, 2021, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on June 12, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
And to think that back in the 1950's, we were one of the last clubs to have floodlights, because of the structural problems encountered to sink the (2) pylons, so close to the river....Or at least that was what we were told....
I think the real problem was in sinking hands into pockets to pay for them...
.....in fact, as I recall, the pylons didn't go up until into the 'sixties.
Yes It was into the sixties and Tommy Trinders short arms and long pockets.
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 12, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
I was a Hammy ender for years but then when the seats came in I managed a successful conversion with other wrinklies to the JH stand. I think a further move to the Riverside may be a step too far but would love to watch just one game from that position of luxury.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 13, 2021, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ron on June 12, 2021, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on June 12, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
And to think that back in the 1950's, we were one of the last clubs to have floodlights, because of the structural problems encountered to sink the (2) pylons, so close to the river....Or at least that was what we were told....
I think the real problem was in sinking hands into pockets to pay for them...
.....in fact, as I recall, the pylons didn't go up until into the 'sixties.
Yes It was into the sixties and Tommy Trinders short arms and long pockets.
Our new floodlights, the last First division team to get them, were unveiled in 1962 v Sheff. Wed, a game which we won 4-1, with goals from Stan Brown and a Maurice Cook hat trick.
Before that mid winter Saturday games started at 2.15pm, with no evening games outside of early and late season , and these kicked off at 6.15pm.
I was at the game, standing down the front on the halfway line, on the Riverside terrace.
The game sticks in my mind because I had a pre-game fight with a mate I'd come with.
It was the Supporters' Club who paid for the floodlights, the club claiming that they couldn't afford them after paying for Bobby Robson's return to Fulham.
The drawback for me is my st was in top row of block C in the JH stand. we could not see the top of the old Riverside stand, so we will see even less of the new one! Plus we could not see the scoreboards either (thinking about it, with some of our recent results maybe that's not such a bad thing!)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 13, 2021, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ron on June 12, 2021, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on June 12, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
And to think that back in the 1950's, we were one of the last clubs to have floodlights, because of the structural problems encountered to sink the (2) pylons, so close to the river....Or at least that was what we were told....
I always believed the supporters raised the money because Fulham risked being relegated. Once they'd done that suddenly all the problems disappeared.
I think the real problem was in sinking hands into pockets to pay for them...
.....in fact, as I recall, the pylons didn't go up until into the 'sixties.
Yes It was into the sixties and Tommy Trinders short arms and long pockets.
Quote from: filham on June 13, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 12, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
I was a Hammy ender for years but then when the seats came in I managed a successful conversion with other wrinklies to the JH stand. I think a further move to the Riverside may be a step too far but would love to watch just one game from that position of luxury.
maybe it's me but I don't like the. Term Hammy End.Maybe it's an age thing,but never called that growing up in my era.I thi nk my family and friends would give me a funny look if I said it.
spoke to a friend whose job involves going to lots of stadiums - i said that the new riverside looked very steep - he said he was told that was deliberate so that all people relatively close to the pitch and should help keep the noise in (resisted opportunity to point out noise doesnt come from that stand).
i suspect the angle has more to do with maximising the income generating facilities behind - call me cynic 064.gif
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Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
I was a Hammy ender for years but then when the seats came in I managed a successful conversion with other wrinklies to the JH stand. I think a further move to the Riverside may be a step too far but would love to watch just one game from that position of luxury.
maybe it's me but I don't like the. Term Hammy End.Maybe it's an age thing,but never called that growing up in my era.I thi nk my family and friends would give me a funny look if I said it.
I understand how you feel, funny if we started to call the other end the Putty end wouldn't it.
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Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
I was a Hammy ender for years but then when the seats came in I managed a successful conversion with other wrinklies to the JH stand. I think a further move to the Riverside may be a step too far but would love to watch just one game from that position of luxury.
maybe it's me but I don't like the. Term Hammy End.Maybe it's an age thing,but never called that growing up in my era.I thi nk my family and friends would give me a funny look if I said it.
I understand how you feel, funny if we started to call the other end the Putty end wouldn't it.
Ha ha might stick though.
Quote from: Ivorwasgod on June 14, 2021, 02:59:04 PM
spoke to a friend whose job involves going to lots of stadiums - i said that the new riverside looked very steep - he said he was told that was deliberate so that all people relatively close to the pitch and should help keep the noise in (resisted opportunity to point out noise doesnt come from that stand).
i suspect the angle has more to do with maximising the income generating facilities behind - call me cynic 064.gif
dictated also by the amount of River we had to buy, hence also a reason for the steepness.
Quote from: filham on June 14, 2021, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on June 14, 2021, 02:14:36 PM
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Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
I was a Hammy ender for years but then when the seats came in I managed a successful conversion with other wrinklies to the JH stand. I think a further move to the Riverside may be a step too far but would love to watch just one game from that position of luxury.
maybe it's me but I don't like the. Term Hammy End.Maybe it's an age thing,but never called that growing up in my era.I thi nk my family and friends would give me a funny look if I said it.
I understand how you feel, funny if we started to call the other end the Putty end wouldn't it.
Even in the song they sang 'we are the Hammersmith End' not the Hammy End!
But I've gotten used it being called that now I suppose.
I suppose it's because Hammersmith is a bit of a mouthful, unlike Putney.
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 12, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: blingo on June 12, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Looks great, BUT, I'm always going to be a hammy ender.
Me too, but definitely want to watch a game from the new stand.
:plus one:
Are they going to fill in (possibly with glass) the back part below the roof?
Otherwise the seats are well open to the elements.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on June 16, 2021, 07:51:54 PM
Are they going to fill in (possibly with glass) the back part below the roof?
Otherwise the seats are well open to the elements.
Just Imagine it on a day like today.
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Thanks - I love the openness, the sense of space and light. Wonder what the plan is for Putney & Hammy Ends?
Why are the seats blue?
I believe they have covers on to protect them from the building work.
Wow, what a interview. Definitely gonna use Buckingham Group to do my flat roof extension.
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Quote from: Jims Dentist on June 16, 2021, 07:51:54 PM
Are they going to fill in (possibly with glass) the back part below the roof?
Otherwise the seats are well open to the elements.
Just Imagine it on a day like today.
Yes - towards the end of the video, the contractor said that glass is soon due to be installed all across the back.
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Thanks - I love the openness, the sense of space and light. Wonder what the plan is for Putney & Hammy Ends?
Why are the seats blue?
Having watched the video with close-ups of them being installed - I would say that the seats are grey rather than blue.
June Riverside Update
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2021/june/June-Riverside-Update/ (https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2021/june/June-Riverside-Update/)
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Thanks - I love the openness, the sense of space and light. Wonder what the plan is for Putney & Hammy Ends?
Why are the seats blue?
Having watched the video with close-ups of them being installed - I would say that the seats are grey rather than blue.
The seats are black, it's the thick plastic coverings that make them look grey
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Thanks - I love the openness, the sense of space and light. Wonder what the plan is for Putney & Hammy Ends?
Why are the seats blue?
Having watched the video with close-ups of them being installed - I would say that the seats are grey rather than blue.
The seats are black, it's the thick plastic coverings that make them look grey
As long as they are not blue! :dft012:
Fantastic! :wow:,
Whether we fill it or not, whether it's too large or whatever other complaints have been raised I feel immensely proud and excited that this will be part of Craven Cottage and can't wait to take my seat in it. Wouldn't mind a Friday night in the hotel pre match but suspect the wallet might not stretch that far
Every update just takes your breath away, it really is more than just another stand and makes the old Riverside stand look like such a basic utility affair.
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Thanks - I love the openness, the sense of space and light. Wonder what the plan is for Putney & Hammy Ends?
Why are the seats blue?
Having watched the video with close-ups of them being installed - I would say that the seats are grey rather than blue.
The seats are black, it's the thick plastic coverings that make them look grey
As long as they are not blue! :dft012:
Leaving aside that the seats are obviously not going to be blue, there shouldn't be any prohibition on that colour. Our club's first colours were dark and light blue. Chelsea have used white away kits and brentford did this year. It's far better to dilute than to allow a club to own a colour.
Seems most are impressed and excited about this stand.
I wonder if they will give some slack to the Khans, in light of this, or whether it will be irrelevant to their feelings towards our owners?
I personally feel they are doing a great job in a very difficult sport and certainly only doing their best - to me that's all we can ask for.
This thread is so positive and at the moment the most enjoyable on this board, lets hope all goes well and within the next year we see a magnificent conclusion.
The climax will be on choosing a suitable and bold name for the stand, no doubt this will be kept secret until very late.
The climax will be on choosing a suitable and bold name for the stand, no doubt this will be kept secret until very late........
Then it will be revealed......
THE GIANT HAYSTACKS STAND
I hope it's the Tony Khan Stand, for the poo and giggles!
Think it will be the 'Tony Khan't Stand'
Quote from: HV71 on June 23, 2021, 09:44:51 AM
The climax will be on choosing a suitable and bold name for the stand, no doubt this will be kept secret until very late........
Then it will be revealed......
THE GIANT HAYSTACKS STAND
Khan will acquire a sponsorship from a US-based brewery looking to grow their market overseas.
THE MILLER STAND
Be very surprised if it didn't have The Khan name on it, after all they paid for it.
Do hope people understand when I book out the swimming pool for myself and my coterie of Super Models
perhaps the stand name will be
Your Only Young Once
SpikeyNorman sent in some photos of the new stand...
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Thanks John
Photos taken from my daughters flat's balcony on Putney Hill.
Last photo shows new stand on the right by the church and Wembley Arch in the distance.
Looks like the Velodrome from a distance.Looking forward with the lads to doing some corporate days up there.Fancy have a drink overlooking the pitch and pool.
Progressing nicely.
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Quote from: HV71 on June 23, 2021, 09:44:51 AM
The climax will be on choosing a suitable and bold name for the stand, no doubt this will be kept secret until very late........
Then it will be revealed......
THE GIANT HAYSTACKS STAND
Khan will acquire a sponsorship from a US-based brewery looking to grow their market overseas.
THE MILLER STAND
Nice one.
The Ahmad Elrich Stand
The Last Stand
As we are an all seater stadium, it should be called the wenolonger stand!
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 06, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Zamora?
Tosh Chamberlain more like.
Anyone know how he is? Well up into to eighties I believe.
Hope he is well.
I think he died last Jan, sad to say
Quote from: fcfulham55 on July 02, 2021, 05:02:45 PM
Progressing nicely.
Not really, it's a year behind schedule
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Quote from: fcfulham55 on July 02, 2021, 05:02:45 PM
Progressing nicely.
Definitely progressing nicely.
The traffic light system and road works my way was scheduled to take 16 weeks. It took over a year, and this was before the excuse of Covid.
Meanwhile, in Japan they repaired a sink hole that included utilities + traffic light system on a huge intersection in 48 hours.
'Not really, it's a year behind schedule' :005:
The Flex-N-Gate Stand.
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Quote from: fcfulham55 on July 02, 2021, 05:02:45 PM
Progressing nicely.
Definitely progressing nicely.
The traffic light system and road works my way was scheduled to take 16 weeks. It took over a year, and this was before the excuse of Covid.
Meanwhile, in Japan they repaired a sink hole that included utilities + traffic light system on a huge intersection in 48 hours.
'Not really, it's a year behind schedule' :005:
Put it this way, I have friends who work for big construction companies. They are involved with projects all over England & they say the at worst they were a couple of months behind schedule due to Covid, not a year.
I'd be very surprised if any of the stand gets opened during this season as per planned. This is taking a ridiculously long time, think the are issues going on with FFC & Buckingham too
Have they constructed my swimming pool yet
Taken today
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https://twitter.com/GLittleDrill/status/1418367116063936514
Marco Silva looks like someone's just told him it's his round 🍻
Saw it for the first time today & all I can say is wow, it's incredible, they've done a brilliant job. A real surprise is the amount of leg room with plenty of room to stretch out. I spoke to someone who'd been taken up to the gantry & the view is stunning apparently. I was concerned it would be oversized but it looks to scale.
Wasn't able to get there today. I can't wait for next Sunday to see it. It looks exceptional and class and will no doubt precipitate improvements to both the Hammersmith and Putney ends. Well done to the owner for seeing and understanding the opportunities with this. I don't think he gets enough credit on here. For those us of us who remember the horrendous times under Clay and Bulstrode this is way beyond what we could ever dream of.
Totally agree. When you think of the temporary stands waiting to be developed at either end as well it is amazing and what may be achieved in the future for the whole area makes you very excited
Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on July 31, 2021, 08:55:18 PM
Wasn't able to get there today. I can't wait for next Sunday to see it. It looks exceptional and class and will no doubt precipitate improvements to both the Hammersmith and Putney ends. Well done to the owner for seeing and understanding the opportunities with this. I don't think he gets enough credit on here. For those us of us who remember the horrendous times under Clay and Bulstrode this is way beyond what we could ever dream of.
Plus 100%
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Just wow-many many thanks Mr Khan.
Check out a brilliant mini documentary on YouTube, search Severfield, they have two Fulham ones on there, view the 7 minute one,
Watch it and be very proud, what a job the Khan's have done with this Riverside Stand, and thanks massively to both Severfield and The Buckingham Group, from where we were to where we are now in my time is an incredible achievement 👏
Quote from: Riversider on August 07, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
Check out a brilliant mini documentary on YouTube, search Severfield, they have two Fulham ones on there, view the 7 minute one,
Watch it and be very proud, what a job the Khan's have done with this Riverside Stand, and thanks massively to both Severfield and The Buckingham Group, from where we were to where we are now in my time is an incredible achievement 👏
Thanks for the tip-off...you're right it's quite a staggering achievement.
For a modern building it really doesn't look too bad at all.
Impressive
Thank you for pointing it out Riversider.
Watched and listened in awe of these guys. Cannot wait to be shown around this marvelous Thameside icon.
Shadik Khan will forever be held in high esteem by The Fulham faithful.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 07, 2021, 01:43:19 PM
Thank you for pointing it out Riversider.
Watched and listened in awe of these guys. Cannot wait to be shown around this marvelous Thameside icon.
Shadik Khan will forever be held in high esteem by The Fulham faithful.
He will indeed, well said 👏
Quote from: Riversider on August 07, 2021, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 07, 2021, 01:43:19 PM
Thank you for pointing it out Riversider.
Watched and listened in awe of these guys. Cannot wait to be shown around this marvelous Thameside icon.
Shadik Khan will forever be held in high esteem by The Fulham faithful.
He will indeed, well said 👏
Really. Presided over 3 relegations and appointed his son who had no experience in the key role of DOF resulting in millions being wasted. I think his motives are honourable but certain decisions have been flawed.
Having said that I can't wait to take up my seat in the new stand
Well he ain't Earnie Clay! So other than the yoyo situation we are in good hands.
Quote from: Jambo on July 10, 2021, 12:43:23 AM
Taken today
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When you turn up a day early for your new job
Fantastic video.
Can't wait to see it tomorrow. It's certainly come a long way since I last saw it at the Liverpool game.....
First time seeing the new stand in flesh today - very impressed. TV pictures just don't do it justice. Looking forward to take up my seats when it is finished...
Quote from: ashteadFFC on August 08, 2021, 05:57:10 PM
First time seeing the new stand in flesh today - very impressed. TV pictures just don't do it justice. Looking forward to take up my seats when it is finished...
Would like to move there but I'm not sure even the cheapest seats will be within my budget.
Quote from: SG on August 07, 2021, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 07, 2021, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 07, 2021, 01:43:19 PM
Thank you for pointing it out Riversider.
Watched and listened in awe of these guys. Cannot wait to be shown around this marvelous Thameside icon.
Shadik Khan will forever be held in high esteem by The Fulham faithful.
He will indeed, well said 👏
Really. Presided over 3 relegations and appointed his son who had no experience in the key role of DOF resulting in millions being wasted. I think his motives are honourable but certain decisions have been flawed.
Having said that I can't wait to take up my seat in the new stand
"Dear Sir,
I regret to inform you that your application to purchase a seat in
my the club's new stand has been unsuccessful.
Better luck with the next owner.
Yours sincerely,
S.Khan "
I was very impressed. I was worried it would overpower the rest of the stadium but I think it really ascentuates the traditional and the modern look and feel of our unique stadium. I also think more of the noise and atmosphere is retained in the stadium. It would be interested to get other views on this issue
Quote from: ashteadFFC on August 08, 2021, 05:57:10 PM
First time seeing the new stand in flesh today - very impressed. TV pictures just don't do it justice. Looking forward to take up my seats when it is finished...
+1
The Dug-out needs a roof. Did you notice the subs scurrying to the seating behind when the rain came down? The problem is it doesn't seem possible without restricting the view of the punters
Quote from: Andy S on August 08, 2021, 10:18:35 PM
The Dug-out needs a roof. Did you notice the subs scurrying to the seating behind when the rain came down? The problem is it doesn't seem possible without restricting the view of the punters
A lot of teams now don't have roofs / covers, I noticed that a couple of seasons ago, don't think we have had them now for a while.
I was happy to note that from my perch halfway up H6 I could still see a few square inches of Thames through one of the lounges. Looks really good and somehow not over imposing. From the Hammy End the Putney stand that looked tall now just looks normal. And the stand encroaches out into the river in a lovely way and the Riverside/Hammy corner still has a lot of outside space.
They need to get someone to clean the outside wall at the Hammy End though, horrible mucky green slime everywhere - matches the gents I suppose!
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I think there definitely needs to be more toilet-related threads on here
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
Quote from: Andy S on August 08, 2021, 10:18:35 PM
The Dug-out needs a roof. Did you notice the subs scurrying to the seating behind when the rain came down? The problem is it doesn't seem possible without restricting the view of the punters
I did think that when the pitch started to get waterlogged that was the time to bring on a sub.
Don't know if this has been mentioned and there's too many pages to look through on this thread, does any one know will the changing rooms still be in the Cottage or in the riverside?
Quote from: f321ffc on August 10, 2021, 04:19:13 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned and there's too many pages to look through on this thread, does any one know will the changing rooms still be in the Cottage or in the riverside?
Cottage
Quote from: cmg on August 08, 2021, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: SG on August 07, 2021, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 07, 2021, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 07, 2021, 01:43:19 PM
Thank you for pointing it out Riversider.
Watched and listened in awe of these guys. Cannot wait to be shown around this marvelous Thameside icon.
Shadik Khan will forever be held in high esteem by The Fulham faithful.
He will indeed, well said 👏
Really. Presided over 3 relegations and appointed his son who had no experience in the key role of DOF resulting in millions being wasted. I think his motives are honourable but certain decisions have been flawed.
Having said that I can't wait to take up my seat in the new stand
"Dear Sir,
I regret to inform you that your application to purchase a seat in my the club's new stand has been unsuccessful.
Better luck with the next owner.
Yours sincerely,
S.Khan "
I've only known two owners in my fulham supporting life but what the Khan's have done in comparison to Al Fayed pails in insignificance in my view. I'd honestly much rather a successful team and consistency and stability with our performances and the league we're in (Premier League) as well as trusting the club to make astute footballing decisions, which in all truth the khan's fail at miserably.
Apologies if mentioned before, but seeing it in the flesh for the first time on Saturday, I thought that the roof had a really exaggerated upward tilt.
This could be a problem for fans on a wet (and windy) day.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 11, 2021, 07:31:00 PM
Apologies if mentioned before, but seeing it in the flesh for the first time on Saturday, I thought that the roof had a really exaggerated upward tilt.
This could be a problem for fans on a wet (and windy) day.
From what I've seen at the last two games, I think the new roof provides a decent amount of cover. The really heavy storm on Sunday soaked the first few rows but I guess it depends on numerous factors?
Quote from: SP on August 11, 2021, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 11, 2021, 07:31:00 PM
Apologies if mentioned before, but seeing it in the flesh for the first time on Saturday, I thought that the roof had a really exaggerated upward tilt.
This could be a problem for fans on a wet (and windy) day.
. No doubt time will tell.
From what I've seen at the last two games, I think the new roof provides a decent amount of cover. The really heavy storm on Sunday soaked the first few rows but I guess it depends on numerous factors?
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
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Quote from: Logicalman on August 12, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
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I have neither extensive knowledge on this topic nor the inclination to spend time acquiring it. However, glancing at those plans one thing that's clear is those other floors are where the restaurant, gym, chairman's suite and various other exclusive facilities are located. As such, if I were a betting man I'd guess they won't be freely accessible to 10,000 fans during the game. So "scaremongering by an miscreant" (sic) sounds a risky and unduly dismissive assumption to me.
We applied to open the stand a couple of weeks back. Guessing part of the stand.
Any update on this anyone?
I have been told by the club that there will be 4 levels of 'facilities'.
1. Seat only, possibly lower seats.
2. Seat and Sports bar which will be on the lower tier.
3. Seat and various resteraunts and facilities that will be as good as anything out there, these will be the middle 2 levels.
4. Seat and VIP, this will be 4th floor and be better than anything at any other ground in the country.
Quote from: Statto on August 13, 2021, 12:18:24 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 12, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
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I have neither extensive knowledge on this topic nor the inclination to spend time acquiring it. However, glancing at those plans one thing that's clear is those other floors are where the restaurant, gym, chairman's suite and various other exclusive facilities are located. As such, if I were a betting man I'd guess they won't be freely accessible to 10,000 fans during the game. So "scaremongering by an miscreant" (sic) sounds a risky and unduly dismissive assumption to me.
No offence statto - some of us did study the plans rather than just glance at them as you did. Having done so - it is clear that there are sufficient wc facilities for regular fans on the required levels. The exclusive facilities to which you refer are indeed on the higher levels and of course will almost certainly just be for those admitted to those areas (which seems fair enough to me).
I would be more inclined to believe in the accuracy of the official plans that I have viewed with my own eyes, than an obvious (one poster) 'miscreant' who only looked at one floor in the plans and then posted incorrect 'scaremongering' information.
Seat only sounds like a fantastic option; presumably you have to bring your own colostomy bag
No update on the website since June, or have I missed it? All I can is the Pier survey
Guess they're relying on people looking at the progress at matches. Certainly moving on apace. Looks like it needs a lot of steelwork to support the pool!
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 31, 2021, 01:21:53 PM
Seat only sounds like a fantastic option; presumably you have to bring your own colostomy bag
When you purchase a seat in the Johnny Haynes, they throw the loo in for free but don't specify it so I expect it will be the same in the Riverside. Oh hang on, you were being funny.... Hahahaha
Asked before, but try again
Has anybody got any idea what upper tier season ticket would equate too. Someone must know what the best Seats in Spuds new ground cost annually?
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 31, 2021, 09:25:20 PM
Asked before, but try again
Has anybody got any idea what upper tier season ticket would equate too. Someone must know what the best Seats in Spuds new ground cost annually?
5
Would like to know too.
The views from them seats. Guessing from £1500 -£2500ish
The halfway seats are definitely going to be snapped up for some serious amounts.
I would imagine those of us who had Riverside stand season tickets will be given first dibs at taking an equivalent seat in the new stand. Block W - roughly in the middle - was c£800 pre rebuild. I'd expect it to double when open. Still as my sons keep telling me - no point being the richest man in the graveyard 😂😂
When do we expect is "the first game with fans in the New Riverside stand" to be? The last I read is the official opening will be in "August 2022", but it seems a lot more ready than that, at least for a basic fan experience.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 31, 2021, 09:25:20 PM
Asked before, but try again
Has anybody got any idea what upper tier season ticket would equate too. Someone must know what the best Seats in Spuds new ground cost annually?
Spuds STs range from £800 to £2,000. They froze the cost this season. Over 65s have a 50% discount on the cheaper seats up to the £1,200 mark but the discount is not offered on seats above this price. Hope that helps
Quote from: Lordedmundo on August 31, 2021, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 13, 2021, 12:18:24 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 12, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
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I have neither extensive knowledge on this topic nor the inclination to spend time acquiring it. However, glancing at those plans one thing that's clear is those other floors are where the restaurant, gym, chairman's suite and various other exclusive facilities are located. As such, if I were a betting man I'd guess they won't be freely accessible to 10,000 fans during the game. So "scaremongering by an miscreant" (sic) sounds a risky and unduly dismissive assumption to me.
No offence statto - some of us did study the plans rather than just glance at them as you did. Having done so - it is clear that there are sufficient wc facilities for regular fans on the required levels. The exclusive facilities to which you refer are indeed on the higher levels and of course will almost certainly just be for those admitted to those areas (which seems fair enough to me).
I would be more inclined to believe in the accuracy of the official plans that I have viewed with my own eyes, than an obvious (one poster) 'miscreant' who only looked at one floor in the plans and then posted incorrect 'scaremongering' information.
Just to clarify, the "exclusive facilities" are on every floor except Level 0.
Level 0 is the concourse, ie for fans.
I don't need to "study" the plans, I can see from a quick glance what's on each floor, and discern from common sense that if there are some toilets in the restaurant on level 1 for example, then the general population of fans are unlikely to be allowed to traipse through there to do a line in the restaurant's pi$$er.
Happy for you to tell me which of the following floors besides level 0 you think will be accessible to fans...
Level 0 - Concourse
Level 1 - Restaurant
Level 2 - Director/chairman suites, premium events venues
Level 3 - Bar/lounge
Level 4 - Bar/lounge
Level 5 - Terrace
Thank you SG, that gives me some idea how far out of reach they are. 😮
Quote from: Statto on September 01, 2021, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on August 31, 2021, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 13, 2021, 12:18:24 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 12, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
Review plans GA PLAN ARRANGEMENT LEVEL 00-05
I have neither extensive knowledge on this topic nor the inclination to spend time acquiring it. However, glancing at those plans one thing that's clear is those other floors are where the restaurant, gym, chairman's suite and various other exclusive facilities are located. As such, if I were a betting man I'd guess they won't be freely accessible to 10,000 fans during the game. So "scaremongering by an miscreant" (sic) sounds a risky and unduly dismissive assumption to me.
No offence statto - some of us did study the plans rather than just glance at them as you did. Having done so - it is clear that there are sufficient wc facilities for regular fans on the required levels. The exclusive facilities to which you refer are indeed on the higher levels and of course will almost certainly just be for those admitted to those areas (which seems fair enough to me).
I would be more inclined to believe in the accuracy of the official plans that I have viewed with my own eyes, than an obvious (one poster) 'miscreant' who only looked at one floor in the plans and then posted incorrect 'scaremongering' information.
Just to clarify, the "exclusive facilities" are on every floor except Level 0.
Level 0 is the concourse, ie for fans.
I don't need to "study" the plans, I can see from a quick glance what's on each floor, and discern from common sense that if there are some toilets in the restaurant on level 1 for example, then the general population of fans are unlikely to be allowed to traipse through there to do a line in the restaurant's pi$$er.
Happy for you to tell me which of the following floors besides level 0 you think will be accessible to fans...
Level 0 - Concourse
Level 1 - Restaurant
Level 2 - Director/chairman suites, premium events venues
Level 3 - Bar/lounge
Level 4 - Bar/lounge
Level 5 - Terrace
So, aside from Level 0:
Level 1 - The plans show that 4 of the 8 entrances to the stands open out directly into the restaurant/concourse area (fans in the end blocks are closer to the lower tier stair exits, but can still reach these 4 entrances). So unless these 4 entrances are locked, you would discern from common sense that fans would be able to use all wc facilites on that floor, as there are no doors or walls preventing them from doing so.
Level 2 - The plans show that 2 of the 3 entrances open out directly into the main premium GA/Events/concourse area. Again, unless these entrances are locked - all fans entering or exiting from this area would be able to use the wc facilities in this area. The exception is of course the chairman/directors area via the 3rd entrance - which has a smaller number of wc facilities.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on September 01, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 01, 2021, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on August 31, 2021, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 13, 2021, 12:18:24 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 12, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
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I have neither extensive knowledge on this topic nor the inclination to spend time acquiring it. However, glancing at those plans one thing that's clear is those other floors are where the restaurant, gym, chairman's suite and various other exclusive facilities are located. As such, if I were a betting man I'd guess they won't be freely accessible to 10,000 fans during the game. So "scaremongering by an miscreant" (sic) sounds a risky and unduly dismissive assumption to me.
No offence statto - some of us did study the plans rather than just glance at them as you did. Having done so - it is clear that there are sufficient wc facilities for regular fans on the required levels. The exclusive facilities to which you refer are indeed on the higher levels and of course will almost certainly just be for those admitted to those areas (which seems fair enough to me).
I would be more inclined to believe in the accuracy of the official plans that I have viewed with my own eyes, than an obvious (one poster) 'miscreant' who only looked at one floor in the plans and then posted incorrect 'scaremongering' information.
Just to clarify, the "exclusive facilities" are on every floor except Level 0.
Level 0 is the concourse, ie for fans.
I don't need to "study" the plans, I can see from a quick glance what's on each floor, and discern from common sense that if there are some toilets in the restaurant on level 1 for example, then the general population of fans are unlikely to be allowed to traipse through there to do a line in the restaurant's pi$$er.
Happy for you to tell me which of the following floors besides level 0 you think will be accessible to fans...
Level 0 - Concourse
Level 1 - Restaurant
Level 2 - Director/chairman suites, premium events venues
Level 3 - Bar/lounge
Level 4 - Bar/lounge
Level 5 - Terrace
So, aside from Level 0:
Level 1 - The plans show that 4 of the 8 entrances to the stands open out directly into the restaurant/concourse area (fans in the end blocks are closer to the lower tier stair exits, but can still reach these 4 entrances). So unless these 4 entrances are locked, you would discern from common sense that fans would be able to use all wc facilites on that floor, as there are no doors or walls preventing them from doing so.
Level 2 - The plans show that 2 of the 3 entrances open out directly into the main premium GA/Events/concourse area. Again, unless these entrances are locked - all fans entering or exiting from this area would be able to use the wc facilities in this area. The exception is of course the chairman/directors area via the 3rd entrance - which has a smaller number of wc faciliti
es.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on September 01, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 01, 2021, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on August 31, 2021, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 13, 2021, 12:18:24 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on August 12, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: SP on August 09, 2021, 08:28:20 PM
Judging by today's other posts, the availability of modern toilet facilities in the new stand will be a huge draw.
I hate to break it to you but...
https://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=73165.msg1092946#msg1092946
I think we all understand that this was just scaremongering by an miscreant no longer in our midst. Check the plans for the other levels not just GA_PLAN_ARRANGEMENT_LEVEL_00-2224348.pdf and, as another member pointed out, there are much more in the plans.
https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900 (https://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PTCLMZBI04900)
Review plans GA PLAN ARRANGEMENT LEVEL 00-05
I have neither extensive knowledge on this topic nor the inclination to spend time acquiring it. However, glancing at those plans one thing that's clear is those other floors are where the restaurant, gym, chairman's suite and various other exclusive facilities are located. As such, if I were a betting man I'd guess they won't be freely accessible to 10,000 fans during the game. So "scaremongering by an miscreant" (sic) sounds a risky and unduly dismissive assumption to me.
No offence statto - some of us did study the plans rather than just glance at them as you did. Having done so - it is clear that there are sufficient wc facilities for regular fans on the required levels. The exclusive facilities to which you refer are indeed on the higher levels and of course will almost certainly just be for those admitted to those areas (which seems fair enough to me).
I would be more inclined to believe in the accuracy of the official plans that I have viewed with my own eyes, than an obvious (one poster) 'miscreant' who only looked at one floor in the plans and then posted incorrect 'scaremongering' information.
Just to clarify, the "exclusive facilities" are on every floor except Level 0.
Level 0 is the concourse, ie for fans.
I don't need to "study" the plans, I can see from a quick glance what's on each floor, and discern from common sense that if there are some toilets in the restaurant on level 1 for example, then the general population of fans are unlikely to be allowed to traipse through there to do a line in the restaurant's pi$$er.
Happy for you to tell me which of the following floors besides level 0 you think will be accessible to fans...
Level 0 - Concourse
Level 1 - Restaurant
Level 2 - Director/chairman suites, premium events venues
Level 3 - Bar/lounge
Level 4 - Bar/lounge
Level 5 - Terrace
So, aside from Level 0:
Level 1 - The plans show that 4 of the 8 entrances to the stands open out directly into the restaurant/concourse area (fans in the end blocks are closer to the lower tier stair exits, but can still reach these 4 entrances). So unless these 4 entrances are locked, you would discern from common sense that fans would be able to use all wc facilites on that floor, as there are no doors or walls preventing them from doing so.
Level 2 - The plans show that 2 of the 3 entrances open out directly into the main premium GA/Events/concourse area. Again, unless these entrances are locked - all fans entering or exiting from this area would be able to use the wc facilities in this area. The exception is of course the chairman/directors area via the 3rd entrance - which has a smaller number of wc facilities.
Where can I see the plans? I can't seem to open any of those links
Typical Fulhamish
We have one of the best squads for a long time and a golden chance to top the league and go up to the PL
But here we have page after page about bogs in a stand that isn't open yet !
Classic
Quote from: Roberty on September 01, 2021, 04:27:31 PM
Typical Fulhamish
We have one of the best squads for a long time and a golden chance to top the league and go up to the PL
But here we have page after page about bogs in a stand that isn't open yet !
Classic
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Quote from: Lordedmundo on September 01, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
So, aside from Level 0:
Level 1 - The plans show that 4 of the 8 entrances to the stands open out directly into the restaurant/concourse area (fans in the end blocks are closer to the lower tier stair exits, but can still reach these 4 entrances). So unless these 4 entrances are locked, you would discern from common sense that fans would be able to use all wc facilites on that floor, as there are no doors or walls preventing them from doing so.
Level 2 - The plans show that 2 of the 3 entrances open out directly into the main premium GA/Events/concourse area. Again, unless these entrances are locked - all fans entering or exiting from this area would be able to use the wc facilities in this area. The exception is of course the chairman/directors area via the 3rd entrance - which has a smaller number of wc facilities.
So as I was saying, your assumption is indeed that fans will be permitted to walk through the restaurant or a premium events area, and use their toilets. I find that unlikely and am frankly astounded you think it reasonable. I think it far more likely those doors will indeed be locked during the game or at least guarded by someone saying, "sorry sir, this is a restaurant, do you have a reservation?" But who knows. We'll see in due course won't we.
Oh dear, we have a shiny new stand but are now taking up pages and pages on a hypothetical argument over WC facilities.
This is an update thread so could we perhaps keep the silly arguments to a brief sentence or two?
If the Riverside Stand doesn't meet the toilet legal requirements for 10,000 people then the stadium will have to open to less people until it's fixed, but I am certain it will be fixed. If the stand meets current legal requirements, then there will be many more toilets than many of us are use to in the old days. Get the stand finished and open, surely a dozen toilets is not too hard to add somewhere.
Quote from: Twig on September 01, 2021, 10:25:47 PM
Oh dear, we have a shiny new stand but are now taking up pages and pages on a hypothetical argument over WC facilities.
This is an update thread so could we perhaps keep the silly arguments to a brief sentence or two?
Get used to it mate . Transfer window is closed and it's an international break. Nothing else to talk about.
Statto - is that what cottaging means - searching for a toilet in an unfinished stand ?
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
I am guessing that you wont get a safety certificate if all the work isnt done, and thus opening for some may not be possible. Just a guess on my part
Who do they put the seats in when the overall job is not completed yet? It's like a tease to us fans. Would be better if they put the seats in last to save the frustrations of waiting.
I thought we had applied for a safety certificate for a partial opening
Quote from: bencher on September 02, 2021, 10:20:47 AM
Who do they put the seats in when the overall job is not completed yet? It's like a tease to us fans. Would be better if they put the seats in last to save the frustrations of waiting.
I thought it was a safe standing area.
Quote from: bobby01 on September 02, 2021, 10:23:04 AM
I thought we had applied for a safety certificate for a partial opening
Haven't you received your Hi Vis Vest in the post yet.
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
To be fair to the club I have already received my seat number.
Quote from: bencher on September 02, 2021, 10:20:47 AM
Who do they put the seats in when the overall job is not completed yet? It's like a tease to us fans. Would be better if they put the seats in last to save the frustrations of waiting.
They brought the seats in though the back of the stand and they are now fixing the curtain wall to enclose the stand.
When the seat come to site they needed fixing down to get them out of everyone way
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
I think it's something to do with not having enough toilets.
So much of the above seems a long way from the match experience that most if he are used to, But:
If it helps our club prosper then so be it.
I am though curious about who are the punters who will use these elite facilities on match days.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on September 02, 2021, 08:52:19 PM
So much of the above seems a long way from the match experience that most if he are used to, But:
If it helps our club prosper then so be it.
I am though curious about who are the punters who will use these elite facilities on match days.
Well I will be surprised if it's many of our existing ST holders. Hope I'm wrong but I fear the new stand could be dominated by, how to say this? A less expressive sort of supporter.
Looking forward to experiencing the new stand.Not saying I will move over there full time but happy to give it a whirl
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 02, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
To be fair to the club I have already received my seat number.
I take it that would be a series of numbers Wooly, no offence mate but using it in the singular for a mammoth seems, well, plain incorrect.
Supporter for 60 years and ST for 30 - I'll definitely take a seat in the new stand.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 02, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
To be fair to the club I have already received my seat number.
ok
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 02, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
Well come on wooly what is the seat number, suspect it could be 10001 which is above the top row and they are reserving an early seat in heaven for you.
To be fair to the club I have already received my seat number.
I think watching a game up with the gods has got to be done when the stand is open. Where I sit in the JH I can't even see the top of the stand.
It's truly a wonder that we ever got planning permission for that height.
I do wonder (and hope) they have plans to change at least the roof on the JH stand. I realise it a listed building so there will be problems with the beurocrats but really the current roof is a little out of place
Quote from: filham on September 03, 2021, 10:30:20 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 02, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: filham on September 02, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
The stand is looking so impressive but what a shame there will no be a bum on any of those seats until next August.
I do understand there is now a lot of internal work to be carried our and safety inspections to be undertaken but you would think a small section of a few hundred seats could be made available in advance for a deserving few.
Well come on wooly what is the seat number, suspect it could be 10001 which is above the top row and they are reserving an early seat in heaven for you.
To be fair to the club I have already received my seat number.
As I have been sworn to secrecy, all I can reveal is that it is in excess of 10,000.
Quote from: shepperton white on September 03, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
I do wonder (and hope) they have plans to change at least the roof on the JH stand. I realise it a listed building so there will be problems with the beurocrats but really the current roof is a little out of place
They raised the roof on the old stand at Ibrox as I recall, leaving the listed facade in place, so I guess all is possible, particularly seeing as the new stand has set a precedent for building upwards at the ground as a whole. Certainly a cantilevered roof would do wonders for the viewing experience from the JH, and I'm sure better use could be made of the space beneath, even with the cantilever steelwork in place.
Quote from: Holders on September 03, 2021, 12:58:53 PM
It's truly a wonder that we ever got planning permission for that height.
I was surprised by that but I think our negotiating point was opening up the Thames Path. Also possible that our chairman has more clout than we are aware of.
Quote from: ron on September 08, 2021, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: shepperton white on September 03, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
I do wonder (and hope) they have plans to change at least the roof on the JH stand. I realise it a listed building so there will be problems with the beurocrats but really the current roof is a little out of place
They raised the roof on the old stand at Ibrox as I recall, leaving the listed facade in place, so I guess all is possible, particularly seeing as the new stand has set a precedent for building upwards at the ground as a whole. Certainly a cantilevered roof would do wonders for the viewing experience from the JH, and I'm sure better use could be made of the space beneath, even with the cantilever steelwork in place.
Not sure how accurate this is but someone involved with the club told me the club had some plans drawn up for another tier a few years ago. Apparently it was for a tier of boxes with a few rows of seats in front & hospitality lounges ,bar etc behind with glass rear overlooking Stevenage Road. The new roof had a mock gable mimicking the existing one
Would imagine it would a pretty difficult undertaking though, would need to drill piles through the existing structure & I'm guessing it would still need to have some support even with the cantilever roof. Also was told there would be a loss of some of the rear seats on the existing stand & a walkway through to the Cottage
I love the JH stand but I feel something should be done as long as it's sympathetic to the character of the stand
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: ron on September 08, 2021, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: shepperton white on September 03, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
I do wonder (and hope) they have plans to change at least the roof on the JH stand. I realise it a listed building so there will be problems with the beurocrats but really the current roof is a little out of place
They raised the roof on the old stand at Ibrox as I recall, leaving the listed facade in place, so I guess all is possible, particularly seeing as the new stand has set a precedent for building upwards at the ground as a whole. Certainly a cantilevered roof would do wonders for the viewing experience from the JH, and I'm sure better use could be made of the space beneath, even with the cantilever steelwork in place.
Not sure how accurate this is but someone involved with the club told me the club had some plans drawn up for another tier a few years ago. Apparently it was for a tier of boxes with a few rows of seats in front & hospitality lounges ,bar etc behind with glass rear overlooking Stevenage Road. The new roof had a mock gable mimicking the existing one
Would imagine it would a pretty difficult undertaking though, would need to drill piles through the existing structure & I'm guessing it would still need to have some support even with the cantilever roof. Also was told there would be a loss of some of the rear seats on the existing stand & a walkway through to the Cottage
I love the JH stand but I feel something should be done as long as it's sympathetic to the character of the stand
I saw some plans and had a few chats with people at the club on what your saying there. Safe to say they have looked at loads of ways of using the dead space above the exits as well to create rooms of some kind. You think of it they have probably looked at it.
Quote from: MJG on September 08, 2021, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: ron on September 08, 2021, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: shepperton white on September 03, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
I do wonder (and hope) they have plans to change at least the roof on the JH stand. I realise it a listed building so there will be problems with the beurocrats but really the current roof is a little out of place
They raised the roof on the old stand at Ibrox as I recall, leaving the listed facade in place, so I guess all is possible, particularly seeing as the new stand has set a precedent for building upwards at the ground as a whole. Certainly a cantilevered roof would do wonders for the viewing experience from the JH, and I'm sure better use could be made of the space beneath, even with the cantilever steelwork in place.
Not sure how accurate this is but someone involved with the club told me the club had some plans drawn up for another tier a few years ago. Apparently it was for a tier of boxes with a few rows of seats in front & hospitality lounges ,bar etc behind with glass rear overlooking Stevenage Road. The new roof had a mock gable mimicking the existing one
Would imagine it would a pretty difficult undertaking though, would need to drill piles through the existing structure & I'm guessing it would still need to have some support even with the cantilever roof. Also was told there would be a loss of some of the rear seats on the existing stand & a walkway through to the Cottage
I love the JH stand but I feel something should be done as long as it's sympathetic to the character of the stand
I saw some plans and had a few chats with people at the club on what your saying there. Safe to say they have looked at loads of ways of using the dead space above the exits as well to create rooms of some kind. You think of it they have probably looked at it.
Yep, people say about how Glasgow Rangers extended their old Leitch stand. That was a huge stand with far less restrictions than we've got, we're only about 25 yard's from back gardens. Also the pitch at Ibrox is sunk miles below street level from when it was a bowl
Interesting last two posts there from trusted sources. The first scenario implied a lot of money, effort and controversy to create a limited amount of premium accommodation. That will be less relevant now with a Riverside to serve such clients.
As regards capacity, there's such a shallow footprint at ground level between the pitch and street that only a substantial cantilever could make any inroads. That would be a huge undertaking, with great aesthetic implications for the listed frontage. And the extra that was achieved would be partly countered by the need for modern seat dimensions etc. -- what's there now would never be allowed anew.
Improving life for ordinary punters in the JH as it is now would be a different aim, still worth trying for, and it's good to know the club have investigated. I'm not surprised that they haven't fixed on anything, though. More legroom would mean fewer rows. More toilets and refreshment facilities would go where? Even an amateur eye like mine can see that there is dead space, but not in obviously exploitable locations. A retired architect on here quite recently spoke of having some ideas about this which it would be fascinating to hear about.
Quote from: b+w geezer on September 08, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Interesting last two posts there from trusted sources. The first scenario implied a lot of money, effort and controversy to create a limited amount of premium accommodation. That will be less relevant now with a Riverside to serve such clients.
As regards capacity, there's such a shallow footprint at ground level between the pitch and street that only a substantial cantilever could make any inroads. That would be a huge undertaking, with great aesthetic implications for the listed frontage. And the extra that was achieved would be partly countered by the need for modern seat dimensions etc. -- what's there now would never be allowed anew.
Improving life for ordinary punters in the JH as it is now would be a different aim, still worth trying for, and it's good to know the club have investigated. I'm not surprised that they haven't fixed on anything, though. More legroom would mean fewer rows. More toilets and refreshment facilities would go where? Even an amateur eye like mine can see that there is dead space, but not in obviously exploitable locations. A retired architect on here quite recently spoke of having some ideas about this which it would be fascinating to hear about.
Again not sure how true this is but was also told that the boundary of the club at the Putney end was actually a few yards beyond the existing wall. I think any future development is going to be very problematic, in some ways although an unpopular option, it would've made sense to move out for a season & do both ends at the same time. With the new Riverside stand are we still able to use the river in the same way for construction? Same goes from annexing a chunk of Bishops Park, the NIMBYs would have a field day
Talking of NIMBYs, the response to them should be that if they had bought their house in the adjoining streets prior to 1896, then they had a valid cause for complaint. Otherwise........
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 06:52:29 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on September 08, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Interesting last two posts there from trusted sources. The first scenario implied a lot of money, effort and controversy to create a limited amount of premium accommodation. That will be less relevant now with a Riverside to serve such clients.
As regards capacity, there's such a shallow footprint at ground level between the pitch and street that only a substantial cantilever could make any inroads. That would be a huge undertaking, with great aesthetic implications for the listed frontage. And the extra that was achieved would be partly countered by the need for modern seat dimensions etc. -- what's there now would never be allowed anew.
Improving life for ordinary punters in the JH as it is now would be a different aim, still worth trying for, and it's good to know the club have investigated. I'm not surprised that they haven't fixed on anything, though. More legroom would mean fewer rows. More toilets and refreshment facilities would go where? Even an amateur eye like mine can see that there is dead space, but not in obviously exploitable locations. A retired architect on here quite recently spoke of having some ideas about this which it would be fascinating to hear about.
Again not sure how true this is but was also told that the boundary of the club at the Putney end was actually a few yards beyond the existing wall. I think any future development is going to be very problematic, in some ways although an unpopular option, it would've made sense to move out for a season & do both ends at the same time. With the new Riverside stand are we still able to use the river in the same way for construction? Same goes from annexing a chunk of Bishops Park, the NIMBYs would have a field day
next time you are outside the JH stand look at the line of paving that runs the length of the stand, we own everything to the left of it
(https://i.ibb.co/82qNDS1/Screenshot-20210908-190615-Maps.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGWXSRx)
Quote from: MJG on September 08, 2021, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 06:52:29 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on September 08, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Interesting last two posts there from trusted sources. The first scenario implied a lot of money, effort and controversy to create a limited amount of premium accommodation. That will be less relevant now with a Riverside to serve such clients.
As regards capacity, there's such a shallow footprint at ground level between the pitch and street that only a substantial cantilever could make any inroads. That would be a huge undertaking, with great aesthetic implications for the listed frontage. And the extra that was achieved would be partly countered by the need for modern seat dimensions etc. -- what's there now would never be allowed anew.
Improving life for ordinary punters in the JH as it is now would be a different aim, still worth trying for, and it's good to know the club have investigated. I'm not surprised that they haven't fixed on anything, though. More legroom would mean fewer rows. More toilets and refreshment facilities would go where? Even an amateur eye like mine can see that there is dead space, but not in obviously exploitable locations. A retired architect on here quite recently spoke of having some ideas about this which it would be fascinating to hear about.
Again not sure how true this is but was also told that the boundary of the club at the Putney end was actually a few yards beyond the existing wall. I think any future development is going to be very problematic, in some ways although an unpopular option, it would've made sense to move out for a season & do both ends at the same time. With the new Riverside stand are we still able to use the river in the same way for construction? Same goes from annexing a chunk of Bishops Park, the NIMBYs would have a field day
next time you are outside the JH stand look at the line of paving that runs the length of the stand, we own everything to the left of it
(https://i.ibb.co/82qNDS1/Screenshot-20210908-190615-Maps.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGWXSRx)
As for the putney end I have heard that before as well and that we lost a few yards over the years making that wall stable.
Quote from: MJG on September 08, 2021, 07:11:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on September 08, 2021, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 06:52:29 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on September 08, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Interesting last two posts there from trusted sources. The first scenario implied a lot of money, effort and controversy to create a limited amount of premium accommodation. That will be less relevant now with a Riverside to serve such clients.
As regards capacity, there's such a shallow footprint at ground level between the pitch and street that only a substantial cantilever could make any inroads. That would be a huge undertaking, with great aesthetic implications for the listed frontage. And the extra that was achieved would be partly countered by the need for modern seat dimensions etc. -- what's there now would never be allowed anew.
Improving life for ordinary punters in the JH as it is now would be a different aim, still worth trying for, and it's good to know the club have investigated. I'm not surprised that they haven't fixed on anything, though. More legroom would mean fewer rows. More toilets and refreshment facilities would go where? Even an amateur eye like mine can see that there is dead space, but not in obviously exploitable locations. A retired architect on here quite recently spoke of having some ideas about this which it would be fascinating to hear about.
Again not sure how true this is but was also told that the boundary of the club at the Putney end was actually a few yards beyond the existing wall. I think any future development is going to be very problematic, in some ways although an unpopular option, it would've made sense to move out for a season & do both ends at the same time. With the new Riverside stand are we still able to use the river in the same way for construction? Same goes from annexing a chunk of Bishops Park, the NIMBYs would have a field day
next time you are outside the JH stand look at the line of paving that runs the length of the stand, we own everything to the left of it
(https://i.ibb.co/82qNDS1/Screenshot-20210908-190615-Maps.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGWXSRx)
As for the putney end I have heard that before as well and that we lost a few yards over the years making that wall stable.
Wow I never knew that, suppose it explains why cars are allowed to park there?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on September 08, 2021, 07:11:23 PM
Quote from: MJG on September 08, 2021, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 08, 2021, 06:52:29 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on September 08, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Interesting last two posts there from trusted sources. The first scenario implied a lot of money, effort and controversy to create a limited amount of premium accommodation. That will be less relevant now with a Riverside to serve such clients.
As regards capacity, there's such a shallow footprint at ground level between the pitch and street that only a substantial cantilever could make any inroads. That would be a huge undertaking, with great aesthetic implications for the listed frontage. And the extra that was achieved would be partly countered by the need for modern seat dimensions etc. -- what's there now would never be allowed anew.
Improving life for ordinary punters in the JH as it is now would be a different aim, still worth trying for, and it's good to know the club have investigated. I'm not surprised that they haven't fixed on anything, though. More legroom would mean fewer rows. More toilets and refreshment facilities would go where? Even an amateur eye like mine can see that there is dead space, but not in obviously exploitable locations. A retired architect on here quite recently spoke of having some ideas about this which it would be fascinating to hear about.
Again not sure how true this is but was also told that the boundary of the club at the Putney end was actually a few yards beyond the existing wall. I think any future development is going to be very problematic, in some ways although an unpopular option, it would've made sense to move out for a season & do both ends at the same time. With the new Riverside stand are we still able to use the river in the same way for construction? Same goes from annexing a chunk of Bishops Park, the NIMBYs would have a field day
next time you are outside the JH stand look at the line of paving that runs the length of the stand, we own everything to the left of it
(https://i.ibb.co/82qNDS1/Screenshot-20210908-190615-Maps.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGWXSRx)
As for the putney end I have heard that before as well and that we lost a few yards over the years making that wall stable.
Wow I never knew that, suppose it explains why cars are allowed to park there?
when I was trying to push for refreshments area at the exit gates during HT and even looking at an outside area for smoking and drinking was when I found that out. Hence it would only work at the Cottage end as the pavement reduces closer to the Hammersmith end.In the end club decided security,safety and noise wise it was a no go with that.
I have said before that it would be a good time to do work on the Johnny Haynes stand once the Riverside is complete.This would utd mean the majority of season ticket holders would be forced to relocate.I for one would be happy to have a season over in the new stand.Who knows maybe to stay over there.If the facilities are as good as I hope I would have a drink in the ground before and after maybe some food too.Would make commercial sense for the club to think about this in my opinion.
I always thought that it was only the red brick façade & sandstone decoration that is listed & not the roof or interior of the stand. Both of which are not terribly old.
Considerable space restrictions, listed building etc; I think the level of investment required to renovate the JH would far, far exceed any financial rewards for the club and so I can't see it ever happening.....
Quote from: grandad on September 09, 2021, 08:50:06 PM
I always thought that it was only the red brick façade & sandstone decoration that is listed & not the roof or interior of the stand. Both of which are not terribly old.
The roof structure is original, they had to replace the old roof cladding for safety reasons, there's a few new rooms added over the years in the undercroft & wooden seats replacing benches in the 50s, apart from that it's pretty much unchanged from when it was built
They rebuilt the two missing end turret type things in the Fayed refurb
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 10, 2021, 03:07:27 AM
Quote from: grandad on September 09, 2021, 08:50:06 PM
I always thought that it was only the red brick façade & sandstone decoration that is listed & not the roof or interior of the stand. Both of which are not terribly old.
The roof structure is original, they had to replace the old roof cladding for safety reasons, there's a few new rooms added over the years in the undercroft & wooden seats replacing benches in the 50s, apart from that it's pretty much unchanged from when it was built
They rebuilt the two missing end turret type things in the Fayed refurb
As it is a listed building do you not have to use original materials or the replacement there of which you are then advised to use by those that list buildings? Which means it would still carry the originality and look authentic?
No structural engineer but I would have thought replacing the load bearing walls with steels would open things up and allow reconfiguration of the stand.I will assume the current shop will be over in the Riverside,giving more space for us.Just need to make it fit for purpose.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-7oTfNWYAE5q13?format=jpg&name=small)
Need to sandblast the FXPro logo off the Putney and Hammersmith Ends. They're still getting a lot of value from that piece of sponsorship as planes fly over on approach to Heathrow. Bet they stopped paying for it years ago!
Quote from: Kemosabe on September 10, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
Need to sandblast the FXPro logo off the Putney and Hammersmith Ends. They're still getting a lot of value from that piece of sponsorship as planes fly over on approach to Heathrow. Bet they stopped paying for it years ago!
you're so right it looks rubbish. How have they not got rid of that yet.
Quote from: JEEVES on September 10, 2021, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Kemosabe on September 10, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
Need to sandblast the FXPro logo off the Putney and Hammersmith Ends. They're still getting a lot of value from that piece of sponsorship as planes fly over on approach to Heathrow. Bet they stopped paying for it years ago!
you're so right it looks rubbish. How have they not got rid of that yet.
Very easy to drape a banner over the said stands even if just says welcome to Fulham Football Club.Missed opportunity. I sell printed banner material for a living.
Quote from: Kemosabe on September 10, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
Need to sandblast the FXPro logo off the Putney and Hammersmith Ends. They're still getting a lot of value from that piece of sponsorship as planes fly over on approach to Heathrow. Bet they stopped paying for it years ago!
would be fascinating to somehow calculate exactly how much money it's earned them since the sponsorship ended
Quote from: mrmicawbers on September 10, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: JEEVES on September 10, 2021, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Kemosabe on September 10, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
Need to sandblast the FXPro logo off the Putney and Hammersmith Ends. They're still getting a lot of value from that piece of sponsorship as planes fly over on approach to Heathrow. Bet they stopped paying for it years ago!
you're so right it looks rubbish. How have they not got rid of that yet.
Very easy to drape a banner over the said stands even if just says welcome to Fulham Football Club.Missed opportunity. I sell printed banner material for a living.
It used to say vist Florida. Which was after FXPro. So not sure why it now says FXPro
Quote from: junior white on September 10, 2021, 08:27:44 AM
As it is a listed building do you not have to use original materials or the replacement there of which you are then advised to use by those that list buildings? Which means it would still carry the originality and look authentic?
Briefly - NO - you have to do whatever English Heritage tell you to do, you need their consent for everything.
I the part I've been told to retain a perfectly ugly and badly constructed 1930's oak fire-surround in an otherwise pristine 1850's building, rather than replace it with a period original salvaged from another building.
The reason given - the ugly alteration was an example of how the building had been altered over time.
I can still see it when I pass by the building and it still looks UGLY
Latest updates on the official. Can see the pool going on
The pool will be ready for use in December !
Can I get the job as official ice breaker??
Quote from: Riversider on September 13, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
The pool will be ready for use in December !
The video placed a lot of emphasis on getting the pool completed quickly, although getting in fans seems to be the last stage.
Glad to hear they have their priorities right.
They probably have more chance. In getting the health club going quicker than opening the whole stand.The health club would ideally be open for January for obvious reasons.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 14, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Glad to hear they have their priorities right.
Pool half full or half empty Woolly?
Are you part of the experiment to bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
Quote from: gang on September 14, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 14, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Glad to hear they have their priorities right.
Pool half full or half empty Woolly?
Are you part of the experiment to bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
I am actually helping to orchestrate the revival of the Hairy Elephant and have been active and instrumental over the centuries to ensure us Mammothus Primigenious stage a dramatic comeback of Biblical Proportions.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 14, 2021, 01:33:22 PM
Quote from: gang on September 14, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 14, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Glad to hear they have their priorities right.
Pool half full or half empty Woolly?
Are you part of the experiment to bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
I am actually helping to orchestrate the revival of the Hairy Elephant and have been active and instrumental over the centuries to ensure us Mammothus Primigenious stage a dramatic comeback of Biblical Proportions.
Don't get any ideas, that pool is for fully certificated humans only.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 14, 2021, 09:48:12 AM
Quote from: Riversider on September 13, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
The pool will be ready for use in December !
The video placed a lot of emphasis on getting the pool completed quickly, although getting in fans seems to be the last stage.
I would imagine that getting fans in will be the last stage. There will have to test events etc to make sure it's safe for people to come in.
As if anyone could give a monkeys about a swimming pool they will never be able to access...... it will be interesting to see how the ST's are priced. I do worry they will mostly be in the 1K+ category. I mean the JH has facilities that wouldn't look out of place in the Evostik South Central division, and so I reckon anyone in the Riverside will be hit hard in the pocket
Had a nice walk along the south bank of the river today from Hammersmith Bridge to Putney Bridge and had a few thoughts as I stood to admire the new stand,
Firstly it's stunning and I can't wait to see the Thames path open behind the stand with the pub and cafe open ,they are going to be a real money spinner,
Secondly the contractors are going to be working up to the final hour of the final day to get it finished in time for next season, barely about 9 months to go, plenty still to do externally and they haven't even started the internal fit out yet,
And lastly we MUST get promoted this season otherwise its a great white elephant, if we don't go up we will need to pay Liverpool £12 million for Wilson which presumably will involve selling players especially with a cut in the parachute payment this will have a knock on effect with how many supporters turn up to watch us, so then let's say we play the likes of Blackburn or Preston on a Tuesday night in November or January how many would we realistically get , 14k maybe 15k can't see it being many more, imagine that crowd with a capacity of virtually 30k !!! it really doesn't bare thinking about
As I say for many, many reasons we MUST go up ,
COYSW
A seat at the high point in a 25% full Riverside stand on a cold winters night may not be that friendly, The JH stand may have more appeal at times.
It's cold on that side on a winter's day.
Quote from: Holders on October 10, 2021, 04:18:13 PM
It's cold on that side on a winter's day.
We have yet to experience the high level seats with a strong easterly blowing . About this time of year a warning notice will be needed for delicate ladies, " winter draws on"
I'll be in the cheap seats in the lower-tier hopefully, assuming they come in at under 800 quid
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 03:24:42 PM
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
Maybe not so surprising as it is a lunchtime kick off and on Sky.
Quote from: MartyFFC on October 12, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
I'll be in the cheap seats in the lower-tier hopefully, assuming they come in at under 800 quid
I really hope they pitch some STs at this level but I can't see anything under £1000. Hopefully I'm proved wrong.
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 03:24:42 PM
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
I actually think attendances are down across the board, with clubs now seeming reluctant to release attendance figures and empty seats at most games. Dunno whether it's economic hardship or a fear of COVID
Quote from: MartyFFC on October 12, 2021, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 03:24:42 PM
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
I actually think attendances are down across the board, with clubs now seeming reluctant to release attendance figures and empty seats at most games. Dunno whether it's economic hardship or a fear of COVID
The club could help themselves sometimes, there hasn't been a single Tweet, or article on either the app or the website promoting the game to in anyway try and shift a single ticket, we're not great on the pitch at the moment but off it we're diabolical.
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 08:29:58 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on October 12, 2021, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 03:24:42 PM
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
I actually think attendances are down across the board, with clubs now seeming reluctant to release attendance figures and empty seats at most games. Dunno whether it's economic hardship or a fear of COVID
The club could help themselves sometimes, there hasn't been a single Tweet, or article on either the app or the website promoting the game to in anyway try and shift a single ticket, we're not great on the pitch at the moment but off it we're diabolical.
Twas ever thus.
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 08:29:58 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on October 12, 2021, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 03:24:42 PM
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
I actually think attendances are down across the board, with clubs now seeming reluctant to release attendance figures and empty seats at most games. Dunno whether it's economic hardship or a fear of COVID
The club could help themselves sometimes, there hasn't been a single Tweet, or article on either the app or the website promoting the game to in anyway try and shift a single ticket, we're not great on the pitch at the moment but off it we're diabolical.
I've been targeted with ads on social media for tickets for the last 2 days
Quote from: 70sPimlico on October 12, 2021, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 08:29:58 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on October 12, 2021, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 12, 2021, 03:24:42 PM
Tickets available in virtually every section for our London derby against our closest rivals this Saturday!, capacity currently 18000 going up to 29000 next season, missing out on promotion must be giving somebody at our club sleepless nights at the moment,
We need to go on a good run starting on Saturday.
I actually think attendances are down across the board, with clubs now seeming reluctant to release attendance figures and empty seats at most games. Dunno whether it's economic hardship or a fear of COVID
The club could help themselves sometimes, there hasn't been a single Tweet, or article on either the app or the website promoting the game to in anyway try and shift a single ticket, we're not great on the pitch at the moment but off it we're diabolical.
I've been targeted with ads on social media for tickets for the last 2 days
Nothing on Twitter and nothing on the website.
Quote from the project manager...something like...'Fulhams plans for the internal fit-out will make it one if not the best grounds in the country'.
I have spoken to people who have confirmed that it is the intention of the club, 'Khan' to make it a spectacular environment and the best football experience anywhere in England.
The on field achievements have been up to now, somewhat below where I am sure the Khans want us to be, the yo-yo comment was a long time ago and referenced when we were towards the bottom of the championship pre Slav but no one can have any doubt about the ambitions they have for Craven Cottage. This stand is going to be absolutely awesome and I can only imagine how fantastic the fit out is going to be.
Good to have a December update and I think I heard that the shell will be substantially complete by the end of the year and ready for internal contractors to start in January.
I would like to hear a clear statement that the project is on programme for the stand to be available for use at the start of next season.
We be nice to hear more on those Hammersmith, Putney and Johnny Haynes stand upgrades!
I saw the preliminary drawings on Twitter, but they got taken down.
Seems like the cottage and the JH stand facade were the only surviving parts being listed. New roof, on each stand with impressive face lifts. Looked like a significant capacity increase.
Who posted the preliminary drawings?
Someone on Twitter earlier this year, I'm sure I had screenshots to share but had difficulty uploading them here.
I'll check to see if I have them backed up. I don't know the legitimacy, but looked impressive nonetheless!
Hammersmith end next hopefully. Get that pole removed
Quote from: fulhamross on December 21, 2021, 11:28:59 PM
Hammersmith end next hopefully. Get that pole removed
What's he done to upset you?
Personally think they should work on Johnny Haynes next.Appreciate they are limited due to the listing of the stand.However i think using steels to replace the walls could open the place right up.They could possibly create further space by creating a basement for offices,storage etc.
Commercially could work well as all season ticket holders would probably end up in the Riverside.I for one if the got the facilities right ie bars and restaurants may stay there indefinitely.Would rather spend my Money at Fulham than in Putney but they have to get it right.
Well, talking of Poles, here's a design concept from one of them! Not exactly my favorite tbh....
http://stadiumdb.com/news/2014/05/new_design_craven_cottage_that_never_will_be (http://stadiumdb.com/news/2014/05/new_design_craven_cottage_that_never_will_be)
Quote from: fulhamross on December 21, 2021, 11:28:59 PM
Hammersmith end next hopefully. Get that pole removed
And please please upgrade the loos
We all await a picture of TK diving into that new pool which was supposed to be completed by Christmas.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
We need to see how many people actually populate the new stand (on match days) before any further possible enhancements.
Out of curiosity, what do we thinks the Khans have long term for the ground ? The Hammersmith and Putney end need to be refurbished at some point, but face issues with bishops park and the flats. I personally dont see the point of getting a ground bigger than 32,000, we just dont have the fan base, but very curious to see what the plans are going forward and what fans think on here....
Quote from: Adam87 on December 31, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Out of curiosity, what do we thinks the Khans have long term for the ground ? The Hammersmith and Putney end need to be refurbished at some point, but face issues with bishops park and the flats. I personally dont see the point of getting a ground bigger than 32,000, we just dont have the fan base, but very curious to see what the plans are going forward and what fans think on here....
I agree about the capacity so any refurbishments of the other 3 sides would likely to be to increase the match day revenues not capacity.
Having said that, I believe both the Putney and Hammersmith ends are temporary structures built over the old terraces and their use are subject to regular approval and will need work done in the near future.
I suspect negotiations to use the part of the park for access to the river may lead to redevelopment of the Putney end first.
Quote from: Adam87 on December 31, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Out of curiosity, what do we thinks the Khans have long term for the ground ? The Hammersmith and Putney end need to be refurbished at some point, but face issues with bishops park and the flats. I personally dont see the point of getting a ground bigger than 32,000, we just dont have the fan base, but very curious to see what the plans are going forward and what fans think on here....
Knowing someone quite high up at Fulham, the Khan's intensions are to re-develop the whole off CC, but one stand at a time, due to the complex situation of the ground. Unlike Reading, Boro etc, we don't have the benefits of building directly onto an open retail park or industrial estate, so each stand has to be looked at as separate projects.
The Riverside Stand was done first, mainly because it's the only one that could be used to generate in / out of football revenues, which will naturally be used to re-finance the club. With Fulham Pier also looking to go ahead, corporate facilities in / out of football will be even more attractive, now that the club can't use the Thames as direct routes in and out.
Yes, there are restrictions to the Hammy and Putney ends, but club envision to dig down like they've done with the Riverside, and have the concourses over 2/3 levels.
Long term vision is to use CC for multiple venues, not just football, but the Khans are aware this will take time, so kind of tells you they're here for the long term.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 31, 2021, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Adam87 on December 31, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Out of curiosity, what do we thinks the Khans have long term for the ground ? The Hammersmith and Putney end need to be refurbished at some point, but face issues with bishops park and the flats. I personally dont see the point of getting a ground bigger than 32,000, we just dont have the fan base, but very curious to see what the plans are going forward and what fans think on here....
Knowing someone quite high up at Fulham, the Khan's intensions are to re-develop the whole off CC, but one stand at a time, due to the complex situation of the ground. Unlike Reading, Boro etc, we don't have the benefits of building directly onto an open retail park or industrial estate, so each stand has to be looked at as separate projects.
The Riverside Stand was done first, mainly because it's the only one that could be used to generate in / out of football revenues, which will naturally be used to re-finance the club. With Fulham Pier also looking to go ahead, corporate facilities in / out of football will be even more attractive, now that the club can't use the Thames as direct routes in and out.
Yes, there are restrictions to the Hammy and Putney ends, but club envision to dig down like they've done with the Riverside, and have the concourses over 2/3 levels.
Long term vision is to use CC for multiple venues, not just football, but the Khans are aware this will take time, so kind of tells you they're here for the long term.
This is the most interesting post of the year.... Would be fascinated to know more but expect it's all rather sensitive. Crowds will come if the team is successful in the Premiership. So that has to be a priority as well to fill the Riverside. Our fan base grew under Alfayed by huge numbers and has held if not grown further. The Filth is full up so there are loads of floating fans waiting to be enticed by the glitz of Premier league football. Not that that's what I want.
Of course future work on any of the remaining three stand will have the problem of access during construction as the open river route will not now be available.
Quote from: filham on December 31, 2021, 04:53:24 PM
Of course future work on any of the remaining three stand will have the problem of access during construction as the open river route will not now be available.
Not entirely true. We'll still access to those stands, Riverside ends, via the Thames which the club will explore to deliver materials. Pretty sure Bishops park will give us access again, for a today sum. Been told it's all possible, but each treated as a separate project.
The next big project should be to improve the training ground, so players choice us ahead of other teams.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 31, 2021, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: filham on December 31, 2021, 04:53:24 PM
Of course future work on any of the remaining three stand will have the problem of access during construction as the open river route will not now be available.
Not entirely true. We'll still access to those stands, Riverside ends, via the Thames which the club will explore to deliver materials. Pretty sure Bishops park will give us access again, for a today sum. Been told it's all possible, but each treated as a separate project.
Not entirely sure about that. The local residents with a few exceptions seem far more tolerant than some from previous years when you had people like Al-Uzaizi practically waging war on the club.
The amount of noise & disruptions they've had to put up with, ie losing a big chunk of Bishops Park & the ridiculous length of time this has dragged on for, I really think we'd be lucky to be able to do something major at the ground for the foreseeable future. I know the club have agreed to contribute to the upkeep of Bishops Park to keep the residents & council onside but even so, still think we'd struggle
I spoke with a Fulham supporting friend who works for a big construction company, he reckons the club should've done all three stands in one go, even if it meant moving away for a season. He said there's going to be serious issues with room at the Hammersmith end, the hotel & health club at either end hamper any access to the river, think the club would have to practically flatten Stevenage Park between the flats & remove trees at the Putney end
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 01, 2022, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 31, 2021, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: filham on December 31, 2021, 04:53:24 PM
Of course future work on any of the remaining three stand will have the problem of access during construction as the open river route will not now be available.
Not entirely true. We'll still access to those stands, Riverside ends, via the Thames which the club will explore to deliver materials. Pretty sure Bishops park will give us access again, for a today sum. Been told it's all possible, but each treated as a separate project.
Not entirely sure about that. The local residents with a few exceptions seem far more tolerant than some from previous years when you had people like Al-Uzaizi practically waging war on the club.
The amount of noise & disruptions they've had to put up with, ie losing a big chunk of Bishops Park & the ridiculous length of time this has dragged on for, I really think we'd be lucky to be able to do something major at the ground for the foreseeable future. I know the club have agreed to contribute to the upkeep of Bishops Park to keep the residents & council onside but even so, still think we'd struggle
I spoke with a Fulham supporting friend who works for a big construction company, he reckons the club should've done all three stands in one go, even if it meant moving away for a season. He said there's going to be serious issues with room at the Hammersmith end, the hotel & health club at either end hamper any access to the river, think the club would have to practically flatten Stevenage Park between the flats & remove trees at the Putney end
I would bet that the majority on here have never even heard of Stevenage Park or aware of its existence, but if we could somehow purchase it from the council then it really does open up a lot of opportunities for the Hammersmith End.
Quote from: Riversider on January 01, 2022, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 01, 2022, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 31, 2021, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: filham on December 31, 2021, 04:53:24 PM
Of course future work on any of the remaining three stand will have the problem of access during construction as the open river route will not now be available.
Not entirely true. We'll still access to those stands, Riverside ends, via the Thames which the club will explore to deliver materials. Pretty sure Bishops park will give us access again, for a today sum. Been told it's all possible, but each treated as a separate project.
Not entirely sure about that. The local residents with a few exceptions seem far more tolerant than some from previous years when you had people like Al-Uzaizi practically waging war on the club.
The amount of noise & disruptions they've had to put up with, ie losing a big chunk of Bishops Park & the ridiculous length of time this has dragged on for, I really think we'd be lucky to be able to do something major at the ground for the foreseeable future. I know the club have agreed to contribute to the upkeep of Bishops Park to keep the residents & council onside but even so, still think we'd struggle
I spoke with a Fulham supporting friend who works for a big construction company, he reckons the club should've done all three stands in one go, even if it meant moving away for a season. He said there's going to be serious issues with room at the Hammersmith end, the hotel & health club at either end hamper any access to the river, think the club would have to practically flatten Stevenage Park between the flats & remove trees at the Putney end
I would bet that the majority on here have never even heard of Stevenage Park or aware of its existence, but if we could somehow purchase it from the council then it really does open up a lot of opportunities for the Hammersmith End.
You wouldn't be able to buy it, it's part of the open space on the River gardens development. One one time Fulham were told they can't do anything substantial at that end due to natural light issues affecting the apartments, I think the rules & regs regarding that have changed since then though?.
Irony of situation is, Fulham or more to the point Tommy Trinder ,was offered that whole site when it was Blake's Woodyard. My dad's uncle was a foreman there for many years. Trinder declined the offer, years later it would be worth millions
Hindsight, especially regarding property prices, is very disappointing.
We sold 2, 4 storey houses in Greyhound Road in 1986 for the price of a second hand S Class Merc now. :016:
Any idea what the specific plans are for the pier?
Thanks to everyone for the replies, im very suprised the pier is going ahead, delighted though. Just never thought it would be allowed due to the different objections, but all our away fans are going to be arriving by boat now, will make our ground even more unique than it already is.
We are already one of the top away destinations in any league, now arriving by boat...this will take us to the number 1 spot with away supporters.
I have always wondered if the homes fans would move to the putney end in the near future as well, you could probably build a bigger stand, its next to the cottage and if im right (please correct if wrong) but the fulham home end use to be the putney end way back when.
Im very excited about the plans, i hope everything does get done in the next 10 years, will be quite incredible to compare the before and after pictures of the cottage going through all the changes over the decades.
Is it just me thinking that not much seems to be happening to the development at the moment? Can't see any changes between visits.
Any truth in the rumour that there is a cost dispute with the contractor?
I would think at this stage it is mostly internal, wiring, plumbing, fireproofing,plastering etc.
The Putney end of the ground has never been a home end during my Time of supporting Fulham back to the 60's. It was a lot later that grounds were segregated after the fences were put up following Hillsborough. That is when segregation started. Before that you could stand next to opposing supporters
When I first came to the cottage in 1956/7 fans would stand behind the home goal or to the side and then when changing ends at half time many if not most would move to the home end again. There was access from the Johnny Haynes Stand ( Stevenage Road Stand) into the Hammersmith end, and there was no stand on the Riverside. Hence we could access all around the ground. Mind you I can remember being passed down over peoples heads to the front. No chance of that now at my age and weight. :005: 092.gif
Quote from: bigalffc on December 24, 2021, 02:16:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamross on December 21, 2021, 11:28:59 PM
Hammersmith end next hopefully. Get that pole removed
And please please upgrade the loos
The one way system on the smaller one is ludicrous. You go in past the washing facilities and leave where there is none.
Worth noting to those without access to the F.S.T notes, that the Riverside Stand will not be opened to full capacity at the start of next season, it will be opened in graduale stages as the season progresses,
No indication was given to the expected capacity in August and no timescale as to when it will be increased,
If we should get promoted this season there will be people at the club praying we don't get the likes of Liverpool and Man United early doors because if we do then that's going to be one hell of a costly delay to the completion.
Quote from: Riversider on February 02, 2022, 12:43:45 PM
Worth noting to those without access to the F.S.T notes, that the Riverside Stand will not be opened to full capacity at the start of next season, it will be opened in graduale stages as the season progresses,
No indication was given to the expected capacity in August and no timescale as to when it will be increased,
If we should get promoted this season there will be people at the club praying we don't get the likes of Liverpool and Man United early doors because if we do then that's going to be one hell of a costly delay to the completion.
There might also be another reduction in the final capacity too. Was originally 30,000 which then became 29,600. They're now saying it could be 28,800
Quote from: Riversider on February 02, 2022, 12:43:45 PM
Worth noting to those without access to the F.S.T notes, that the Riverside Stand will not be opened to full capacity at the start of next season, it will be opened in graduale stages as the season progresses,
No indication was given to the expected capacity in August and no timescale as to when it will be increased,
If we should get promoted this season there will be people at the club praying we don't get the likes of Liverpool and Man United early doors because if we do then that's going to be one hell of a costly delay to the completion.
I also noted the Club will run a 'try the Riverside out' scheme for season ticket holders although the details were not explicit as to additional fees etc.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on February 02, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 02, 2022, 12:43:45 PM
Worth noting to those without access to the F.S.T notes, that the Riverside Stand will not be opened to full capacity at the start of next season, it will be opened in graduale stages as the season progresses,
No indication was given to the expected capacity in August and no timescale as to when it will be increased,
If we should get promoted this season there will be people at the club praying we don't get the likes of Liverpool and Man United early doors because if we do then that's going to be one hell of a costly delay to the completion.
What's the reason?
There might also be another reduction in the final capacity too. Was originally 30,000 which then became 29,600. They're now saying it could be 28,800
Quote from: bencher on February 02, 2022, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on February 02, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 02, 2022, 12:43:45 PM
Worth noting to those without access to the F.S.T notes, that the Riverside Stand will not be opened to full capacity at the start of next season, it will be opened in graduale stages as the season progresses,
No indication was given to the expected capacity in August and no timescale as to when it will be increased,
If we should get promoted this season there will be people at the club praying we don't get the likes of Liverpool and Man United early doors because if we do then that's going to be one hell of a costly delay to the completion.
What's the reason?
There might also be another reduction in the final capacity too. Was originally 30,000 which then became 29,600. They're now saying it could be 28,800
No idea tbh, did a ground tour a couple of months ago & club employee who was doing the tour said, was confirmed by the tour guides. Says club looking at just over 29k but will probably be around 28,800
Disappointed to hear that the stand is not to be completed on time, a third season with the ground at reduced capacity is really unacceptable, what has gone wrong and how far is the work behind programme. I would have thought that the excavation, preparation of river encroaching foundations and the unique steel frame work were the difficult part of the job and that the remaining fitting out is routine work that can easily be accelerated by employing more labour.
Time we had another formal progress report.
Quote from: filham on February 02, 2022, 05:55:36 PM
Disappointed to hear that the stand is not to be completed on time, a third season with the ground at reduced capacity is really unacceptable, what has gone wrong and how far is the work behind programme. I would have thought that the excavation, preparation of river encroaching foundations and the unique steel frame work were the difficult part of the job and that the remaining fitting out is routine work that can easily be accelerated by employing more labour.
Time we had another formal progress report.
It's ridiculous & I can't believe questions are not being asked. It's going to be about 18 months late. I have a couple of friends who work in the construction industry & they say Covid hasn't put back any of their major projects anywhere near as long as this. Yes there was going to be delays with materials & staff issues but were there no penalty clauses?
There was issues with getting the fit out contractors too by all accounts
The extra workers will be here when they have
finished that bloody church in Barcelona.
so don't hold your breath.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/fulham-reveals-plans-rooftop-members-23089981 (https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/fulham-reveals-plans-rooftop-members-23089981)
Fulham reveals plans for rooftop 'members club' at Craven Cottage in bid for new stand
The club wants to build a fancy restaurant and rooftop bar at Craven Cottage.
ulham Football Club has unveiled new plans for a private members club on top of its new Riverside stand.
The club wants to build a swanky new space on the upper floors of the stand instead of an event space, which had previously been given the go-ahead. New images show designs for a plush restaurant, bar and roof terraces with sweeping views across the River Thames.
The club was previously given planning permission to build a hotel, bar and lounge on the upper floors of the new stand. It now wants to alter the designs to replace the lounge with space for members and hospitality ticket holders. The space also includes meeting rooms and a creche.
A planning report says: "The new members club at Fulham Football Club will incorporate a range of dining, lounge, bar and work spaces set over the top three floors of the new Riverside Stand, offering an unrivalled experience.
"The overall design brief for the club has been to create an impeccably stylish space that is comfortable and relaxing. The interior design is a traditional one, reflecting traditional features of family homes, rather than contemporary football stadia. All spaces have been designed to maintain wide views over the river."
The club has also updated its designs for rooftop pergolas on the fifth floor of both ends of the stand. A new mechanical roof will be added that can be adjusted to cover the seating and bar areas or open them up to the sky. Retractable fabric screens will also be installed to protect the terraces from bad weather.
The club hopes to use the third floor for corporate events and hospitality for sponsors and partners and seats for the public on match days. A lounge and bar space on the fourth and fifth floors would be open to hospitality guests who have bought tickets.
Fulham FC has worked on plans for the members club with Parisian interior designers Dion et Arles, who also designed the inside of luxury French restaurant Louie in Covent Garden.
Reckon this latest clarifies the issue with opening the full stand and why it's sounding like the upper half will be delayed. It's about internal fitout rather than structural completion. The seats themselves will be ready on the upper levels, and doubtless the stairs to them but the rest hangs fire for reasons now published. My reading anyway.
The club don't half faff about with changing plans. At this rate I'd be surprised if it's fully open in time for our next promotion charge in 2023-24 086.gif
Can't see this being fully finished internally until August 2023 , just in time for Preston at home 😄
Quote from: Riversider on February 14, 2022, 06:45:23 PM
Can't see this being fully finished internally until August 2023 , just in time for Preston at home 😄
You maybe right but what an asset when it is complete.
Arrive by boat, have lunch, watch the game, stay overnight in the hotel - can't wait. A helluva birthday treat
You maybe right but what an asset when it is complete.
Everyone is getting impatient which is understandable, however I trust our owner to bring home a fabulously finished product.
Unfortunately this will plainly be aimed at new, younger wealthy follower for Fulham....if we have just hired interior designers from Paris it will really be somewhere he will be so proud of.
Sadly Lulu Lytle was too expensive :012:
Does anyone know if they will open the Riverside up in stages or all in one go? If it's not fully finished for the start of next season, it would be good if at least the bottom tier was open.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on February 15, 2022, 12:23:31 PM
Does anyone know if they will open the Riverside up in stages or all in one go? If it's not fully finished for the start of next season, it would be good if at least the bottom tier was open.
I do believe that is the intention Maidstone.
Quote from: Adam87 on December 31, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Out of curiosity, what do we thinks the Khans have long term for the ground ? The Hammersmith and Putney end need to be refurbished at some point, but face issues with bishops park and the flats. I personally dont see the point of getting a ground bigger than 32,000, we just dont have the fan base, but very curious to see what the plans are going forward and what fans think on here....
I take your point, but when Jimmy Hill wanted to build hotels in the corners during the '90's, fans doubted then that we'd fill the 15,000 capacity.
I can understand the delay because of covid and building the project,but I feel the season ticket holders stuck in the Putney end must be pissed off with the delay,some have given up and don't go any more,and then been offered front down the bottom in open weather, that's gratitude for them.I know their is nothing to see outside ,the snagging list has to be sorted before contractors can work inside.But how about a interview on the offal with a verbal update and perhaps an apology to riverside season ticket holders.From our Fulham staff who our supposedly family club staff,I don't think.
Agree with your post Mick apart from the last paragraph. Think the way the club dealt with young Rhys and The Parrish Family proves we very much are a family Club.
If we're going to upgrade the Putney End, would it make sense to do this as soon as the Riverside is done whilst we're still occupying part of the park?
We have been looking at a construction site and an empty stand for long enough. The priority now has to be to get some bums on seats for the start of next season, posh artistic interiors can follow.
Be nice to have some prices to think about.A Championship price should the worst happen and a Prem price.
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Glad to hear they have their priorities right.
Pool half full or half empty Woolly?
Are you part of the experiment to bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
I am actually helping to orchestrate the revival of the Hairy Elephant and have been active and instrumental over the centuries to ensure us Mammothus Primigenious stage a dramatic comeback of Biblical Proportions.
Don't get any ideas, that pool is for fully certificated humans only.
But but at least i will not need to wear any trunks as i have already got one.
gone a bit quiet on the update front . been a while since we had a video from the contractor
I think GJ and Jamie said something about the lower tier being open for the start of next season.
I'm not sure I would want to sit in the lower if I was to but a season ticket.Having said that they may be the best seats in the house.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on March 07, 2022, 11:43:59 AM
I'm not sure I would want to sit in the lower if I was to but a season ticket.Having said that they may be the best seats in the house.
be a season ticket holder.
Quote from: RaySmith on March 07, 2022, 11:31:59 AM
I think GJ and Jamie said something about the lower tier being open for the start of next season.
Will it take a further season before the entire stand is completely open?
I hope that the club provides another status update.
I wonder if they'll use the free weekend following the Forest postponement to arrange a friendly & put a few hundred in the lower tier?
The Club is pleased to announce supporters will be welcomed back onto the riverside next season, with the opening of the lower tier of the new Riverside Stand from this summer.
The complex nature of the project, coupled with implications arising from the Coronavirus pandemic, means that the development of Fulham Pier will continue throughout next season - including the completion of interior fit-outs of spaces throughout the venue.
Whilst we are preparing for full occupancy, ahead of the full opening of the Riverside Stand and Fulham Pier in the summer of 2023, the opening of the lower tier represents the first phase of supporters being located in the new stand – a milestone moment in the development of the project.
During the 2022/23 campaign Season Tickets will become available in the lower tier on a single season basis, providing the first opportunity for supporters to experience the new stand.
The new Riverside Stand will provide some of the very best seats Craven Cottage has ever had to offer, allowing unprecedented views of the matchday action.
Fans will have the chance to immerse themselves in the thick of the action, with the lower tier offering exceptional perspectives of the pitch, alongside and directly behind the dugouts, allowing you to see the match unfold through the eyes of the Head Coach.
Current Season Ticket Holders who previously had a seat in the former Riverside Stand prior to the project beginning in 2019 will be prioritised to purchase seats in the new stand. More information on this will follow in the coming days.
Everyone at the Club is thrilled to welcome fans to the Riverside as we embark on an exciting new chapter in the history of Fulham Football Club.
A delay of a further year is going to cost the club millions during a Premier League season, very costly indeed.
It's the same as the length of time it took to get the thing off the ground in the first place. Shahid is more interested in getting it right whatever the cost. It's a pain but expect the finished product to be totally amazing. Even more important keep us in the Prem next season.
https://twitter.com/adamborg93/status/1504374693100507136
Grand for lower tier.
So that's TWO lottery tickets for tonight as I wish to keep dry.
Wow it really is some development, just hope the football stadium remains the priority and is not overshadowed by other interests.
I wonder who the window cleaner will be ?
Is that roof going to stop any rain
Quote from: Fernhurst on March 18, 2022, 10:11:41 AM
Grand for lower tier.
So that's TWO lottery tickets for tonight as I wish to keep dry.
West big smoke prices for west big smoke residents 😨
Good to see things progressing well. They've certainly not had any football (any one remember that?) related activity to distract them, apart from the tumble-weed rolling across the deserted green acres. Still, it's exciting to realise that El Salvador are entertaining Costa Rica later today. Nothing like a Central American Derby to stir the old football juices.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 26, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
Is that roof going to stop any rain
Do the rooves over the Putney and Hammy Ends stop the rain? Anyone sitting at the front of those stands gets wet when it rains so is there a difference?
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Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 26, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
Is that roof going to stop any rain
Do the rooves over the Putney and Hammy Ends stop the rain? Anyone sitting at the front of those stands gets wet when it rains so is there a difference?
Yes the difference is that you get soaking wet in more expensive seats.
Quote from: cookieg on April 08, 2022, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 26, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
Is that roof going to stop any rain
Do the rooves over the Putney and Hammy Ends stop the rain? Anyone sitting at the front of those stands gets wet when it rains so is there a difference?
A difference of about 200% I'd guess!
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Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 26, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
Is that roof going to stop any rain
Do the rooves over the Putney and Hammy Ends stop the rain? Anyone sitting at the front of those stands gets wet when it rains so is there a difference?
Yes the difference is that you get soaking wet in more expensive seats.
Well those that can afford it can get wet in better seats so the roof isn't really an issue.
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Quote from: cookieg on April 08, 2022, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 26, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
Is that roof going to stop any rain
Do the rooves over the Putney and Hammy Ends stop the rain? Anyone sitting at the front of those stands gets wet when it rains so is there a difference?
Yes the difference is that you get soaking wet in more expensive seats.
About 600 quid!!
As soon as I saw that upward sloping roof I felt that a whole lot more than the front few rows would get well wet on certain days.
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Thanks for posting those pictures, they are the most stunning that I've seen to date.👍🏻
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Thanks for posting those pictures, they are the most stunning that I've seen to date.👍🏻
dont thank me thank this guy:
https://www.gettyimages.com.br/fotos/craven-cottage-april-26?assettype=image&editorialproducts=sport&family=editorial&phrase=craven%20cottage%20april%2026&sort=newest
Great pictures, lots of solar panels up there.
Are FXPro still paying the club for the advertising?
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Quote from: Riversider on April 27, 2022, 05:02:32 PM
Thanks for posting those pictures, they are the most stunning that I've seen to date.👍🏻
dont thank me thank this guy:
https://www.gettyimages.com.br/fotos/craven-cottage-april-26?assettype=image&editorialproducts=sport&family=editorial&phrase=craven%20cottage%20april%2026&sort=newest
Don't you need to be a bit careful about posting Getty Images?
Quote from: bencher on April 27, 2022, 06:35:12 PM
Are FXPro still paying the club for the advertising?
Apparently so
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Quote from: fulhamfan on April 27, 2022, 05:31:21 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 27, 2022, 05:02:32 PM
Thanks for posting those pictures, they are the most stunning that I've seen to date.👍🏻
dont thank me thank this guy:
https://www.gettyimages.com.br/fotos/craven-cottage-april-26?assettype=image&editorialproducts=sport&family=editorial&phrase=craven%20cottage%20april%2026&sort=newest
Don't you need to be a bit careful about posting Getty Images?
No just Jetty Images - politicians particularly those representing Putney get upset
Stand looks epic, but shows how much the Putney and Hammy ends need some TLC. Would be great to match them up to the new stand even if we can't really dramatically improve the capacity
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on April 28, 2022, 01:40:09 PM
Stand looks epic, but shows how much the Putney and Hammy ends need some TLC. Would be great to match them up to the new stand even if we can't really dramatically improve the capacity
I thought this too. From above they look like dirty sheds against the gleaming new Riverside.
Minces Shed looks very similar from above, the difference is he got his from Stamford Bridge.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2022, 06:49:33 AM
Minces Shed looks very similar from above, the difference is he got his from Stamford Bridge.
Are you saying Mince got a 'good' deal on his shed from a Russian, is Mince a secret agent? A sort of Mince Spy! Only seen at Christmas.
Has there been any more visible work done on the stand?
Not seen updates for a while
Quote from: fulhamfan on October 05, 2022, 03:16:05 PM
Has there been any more visible work done on the stand?
Not seen updates for a while
Not sure on the specifics but the upper tier seems closer to being finished now.
700 extra seats (now making it 1,400 in total) are available for the games against Bournemouth, Villa and Everton in the upper tier. It means the two blocks nearest to the Hammersmith end as well as the two nearest to the Putney end will now have fans in them for all matches going forward. I would expect the middle blocks to start opening up soon too at this rate.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2022, 06:49:33 AM
Minces Shed looks very similar from above, the difference is he got his from Stamford Bridge.
Are you saying Mince got a 'good' deal on his shed from a Russian, is Mince a secret agent? A sort of Mince Spy! Only seen at Christmas.
Mince spy. I liked that.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2022, 06:49:33 AM
Minces Shed looks very similar from above, the difference is he got his from Stamford Bridge.
Are you saying Mince got a 'good' deal on his shed from a Russian, is Mince a secret agent? A sort of Mince Spy! Only seen at Christmas.
Mince spy. I liked that.
Brilliant !
Crusty on the outside but soft and a tad spicy in the middle. Best with "shed " loads of brandy butter
Time we had an official update on the OFFAL with photographs of the inside development and a final completion date.
has the swimming pool been built yet?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2022, 06:49:33 AM
Minces Shed looks very similar from above, the difference is he got his from Stamford Bridge.
How dare you imply that I'd have anything off of that
mob down the road.
You'll be hearing from my Solicitors.😛
Quote from: Twig on October 05, 2022, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: ianthailand on April 29, 2022, 11:04:18 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2022, 06:49:33 AM
Minces Shed looks very similar from above, the difference is he got his from Stamford Bridge.
Are you saying Mince got a 'good' deal on his shed from a Russian, is Mince a secret agent? A sort of Mince Spy! Only seen at Christmas.
Mince spy. I liked that.
😆
Quote from: bencher on April 27, 2022, 06:35:12 PM
Are FXPro still paying the club for the advertising?
Going by the sign i think they have closed down :005:
Quote from: fulhamfan on April 27, 2022, 04:44:21 PM
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on April 28, 2022, 01:40:09 PM
Stand looks epic, but shows how much the Putney and Hammy ends need some TLC. Would be great to match them up to the new stand even if we can't really dramatically improve the capacity
Given the pricing, I wonder if we
will fill the new stand to capacity when it's fully open (with our own fans).
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Quote from: Black, White and Fred on April 28, 2022, 01:40:09 PM
Stand looks epic, but shows how much the Putney and Hammy ends need some TLC. Would be great to match them up to the new stand even if we can't really dramatically improve the capacity
Given the pricing, I wonder if we
will fill the new stand to capacity when it's fully open (with our own fans).
It will eventually. If we can keep in the Premier League. That's the plan!
With Shahid's investment i don't see why we can't take the capacity to 40,000 with some clever payments to Hammersmith and Fulham borough council. So they can fix their bridges etc. Or whatever else falls down in 10 years time when the economy is even more f*****
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
I can see my house
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
I can see my house
so can I!! can you guess which one?
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
I can see my house
so can I!! can you guess which one?
So you can see my house as well, I don't need to guess I know where my house is😂😂
Wow, must be great to still live that close to the Cottage. Bet in the old days you earned big money by allowing bikes to be parked in your front garden at 3d a time.
Not forgetting in the days when you could park very close to the ground you had the bloke who would offer to watch your car during the match. The only problem was that he could be seen in the Stevenage Road standing area nipping out at the final whistle to be in position for his tip!
https://twitter.com/fifawitcher/status/1627989959196958722?s=46&t=wfv_Sb4RrEoiODQuxNCjvg
If you can see the attached video, click on the link that will take you to Twitter. You can see that FIFA23 has updated the Cottage in the video game and now includes the iconic walk out of the cottage. 049:gif
Quote from: love4ffc on February 21, 2023, 08:04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/fifawitcher/status/1627989959196958722?s=46&t=wfv_Sb4RrEoiODQuxNCjvg
If you can see the attached video, click on the link that will take you to Twitter. You can see that FIFA23 has updated the Cottage in the video game and now includes the iconic walk out of the cottage. 049:gif
Now they just need to give Ream his hair back
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Quote from: love4ffc on February 21, 2023, 08:04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/fifawitcher/status/1627989959196958722?s=46&t=wfv_Sb4RrEoiODQuxNCjvg
If you can see the attached video, click on the link that will take you to Twitter. You can see that FIFA23 has updated the Cottage in the video game and now includes the iconic walk out of the cottage. 049:gif
Now they just need to give Ream his hair back
:005: That part I did not notice.
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
I can see my house
so can I!! can you guess which one?
Is it the tower block in Roehampton?
why do we not have a sponsor of fifa
Quote from: love4ffc on February 21, 2023, 08:15:11 PM
Quote from: bencher on February 21, 2023, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on February 21, 2023, 08:04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/fifawitcher/status/1627989959196958722?s=46&t=wfv_Sb4RrEoiODQuxNCjvg
If you can see the attached video, click on the link that will take you to Twitter. You can see that FIFA23 has updated the Cottage in the video game and now includes the iconic walk out of the cottage. 049:gif
Now they just need to give Ream his hair back
:005: That part I did not notice.
I didn't know Ream was so friendly with their keeper.
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
I can see my house
so can I!! can you guess which one?
Is it the tower block in Roehampton?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 21, 2023, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: Hugh Gentry on October 07, 2022, 08:37:19 AM
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Seeing these pics makes me realise how much we need to buy Stevenage park and build a new Hammersmith end over it
You can even see minces shed in the far distance.
I can see my house
so can I!! can you guess which one?
Is it the tower block in Roehampton?
Looking the wrong way for Roehampton, way more round to the right & out of shot
Minor drama in the Lower tier last night with a few drunk Spanish fans upsetting some of the locals. I didn't think they were necessarily Wolves fans, particularly as one of them wore a Barca scarf?
Walking in from Putney Bridge my season ticket is in the Johnny Haynes block GL. Last night as my son and two grandsons were visiting from Germany we all sat together in R12 in the Riverside. I must admit the view was fantastic but noticed a very different aspect to the game. I hope that a new entrance in Bishops Park becomes available soon as walking around almost to the Crabtree to get access to the Riverside was a pain.
Quote from: Ronnief on February 25, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
Walking in from Putney Bridge my season ticket is in the Johnny Haynes block GL. Last night as my son and two grandsons were visiting from Germany we all sat together in R12 in the Riverside. I must admit the view was fantastic but noticed a very different aspect to the game. I hope that a new entrance in Bishops Park becomes available soon as walking around almost to the Crabtree to get access to the Riverside was a pain.
I don't come from the Putney End so hadn't realised that was how you had to access the Riverside from that direction. It's ridiculous isn't it?
Quote from: Twig on February 25, 2023, 03:11:45 PM
Quote from: Ronnief on February 25, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
Walking in from Putney Bridge my season ticket is in the Johnny Haynes block GL. Last night as my son and two grandsons were visiting from Germany we all sat together in R12 in the Riverside. I must admit the view was fantastic but noticed a very different aspect to the game. I hope that a new entrance in Bishops Park becomes available soon as walking around almost to the Crabtree to get access to the Riverside was a pain.
I don't come from the Putney End so hadn't realised that was how you had to access the Riverside from that direction. It's ridiculous isn't it?
Crazy, surely you can leave the Riverside stand directly onto the Thames path and then straight into Bishop's Park without mixing with us poor fans from the Putney end and the JH stand. I would have thought you would be seated on a District line train while we were still in the park.
Surely you just walk down Stevenage Road and do a left behind the Hammersmith End ??
Quote from: Stevieboy on February 26, 2023, 06:46:15 PM
Surely you just walk down Stevenage Road and do a left behind the Hammersmith End ??
Don't live in UK so not certain but I was told the path behind the Hammersmith End is a public footpath and the Stewards have no authority to stop you using it.
Quote from: Ronnief on February 25, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
Walking in from Putney Bridge my season ticket is in the Johnny Haynes block GL. Last night as my son and two grandsons were visiting from Germany we all sat together in R12 in the Riverside. I must admit the view was fantastic but noticed a very different aspect to the game. I hope that a new entrance in Bishops Park becomes available soon as walking around almost to the Crabtree to get access to the Riverside was a pain.
Forgive me but that is a load of codswallop. The Crabtree is half a mile past the Stevenage Road entrance for the Riverside. The distance from gate 23 for JH block GL to the Riverside entrance gate is what, 50 yards at most?
The mention of the Crabtree is meant to be humorous, however the point they are making is correct, stewards do not let you along the path behind the Hammy End, and they do not let you through the first path through the flats, you have to walk round to the next way in, down to the river path and join the queue for the entrance next to the Riverside Stand. It does need sorting out, especially before the stand is full.
Quote from: FFC365 on February 26, 2023, 07:45:43 PM
The mention of the Crabtree is meant to be humorous, however the point they are making is correct, stewards do not let you along the path behind the Hammy End, and they do not let you through the first path through the flats, you have to walk round to the next way in, down to the river path and join the queue for the entrance next to the Riverside Stand. It does need sorting out, especially before the stand is full.
Has something changed recently? I sat in the Riverside for the pre-season game against Villareal and coming from Putney direcction, from memory, turned left immediately after the security/disabled entrance gate (aka Gate 50) where there's a Thames Path sign.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 26, 2023, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: FFC365 on February 26, 2023, 07:45:43 PM
The mention of the Crabtree is meant to be humorous, however the point they are making is correct, stewards do not let you along the path behind the Hammy End, and they do not let you through the first path through the flats, you have to walk round to the next way in, down to the river path and join the queue for the entrance next to the Riverside Stand. It does need sorting out, especially before the stand is full.
Has something changed recently? I sat in the Riverside for the pre-season game against Villareal and coming from Putney direcction, from memory, turned left immediately after the security/disabled entrance gate (aka Gate 50) where there's a Thames Path sign.
Came from Putney Bridge and sat in the Riverside for the Newcastle game and entered by the path at the back of the Hammersmith. Also sat in the Riverside for the Chelsea game again coming from Putney but this time and was forced to walk 300 to 400 yards past the Hammersmith End as the first two paths to the river were blocked off by stewards. Bloody inconvenient and needs to be sorted.
Why do you not enter into the Hammersmith end from Stevenage Road and walk through the back of the stand like people have always done, the signs quite clearly say Riverside stand above the turnstiles.
Will be my first time in the Riverside tomorrow for the Cup game...what are the facilities such as the bar like there?
From the club site
"ENTERING THE RIVERSIDE STAND
Supporters who have purchased a ticket in the Riverside Stand can enter via a number of ways.
On your ticket you will find a turnstile number 51 to 55. These turnstiles are located between the Hammersmith End and the Riverside Stand and can be used for entry.
Alternatively, fans will also be able to enter the ground through the Hammersmith End turnstiles (44-48) and walk through the Hammersmith End concourse to get to the Riverside Stand. A further ticket check will take place between the Hammersmith End and start of The Riverside walkway. Please be ready to present your ticket at this point."
Probably quicker to walk round the long way to 51-55 than shove through the scrum at the back of the Hammy End!
I went to my first game in the new stand last Friday.
A few comments-
Access pre game and post match is poor. We stood in the stand for approx 20 minutes without moving at the end of the game whilst the lower seats cleared. Pre game we were almost late and sent around the houses to enter.
The view is exceptional, truly brilliant.
Seats are a joy (padded!)
The atmosphere is so bad, the main reason being that there's probably only a handful of actual FFC fans in there. We started sitting ontop of the wolves fans and were surrounded by Dutch, German and French fans. Moved towards the hammersmith end for the 2nd half and it's as if all of Scandanavia had been given free tickets. Not moaning about where they come from, just not many are Fulham fans. Mainly tourists that don't care.
The toilets are BUSY, which doesnt help if you've had a couple of drinks.
There can't be much chipboard left in the UK as it's almost all been used up for the new stand.
Will be interesting to see how things improve as the build continues, but at this moment in time, it's got a lot of issues that need sorting (and £100 a icket v wolves on a friday night sky game is excessive).
I thought there were more than normal tourists in the Hammy as well, too many neutrals kill the atmosphere, 4 in front of us left after 15minutes so guessing they didn't pay much for their tickets. A friend tells me it can take 15minutes to get out of the Putney end if you are low down near the cottage. I do look forward to trying it some time but not at £100.
From the March Fulham trust meeting minutes.
https://www.fulhamsupporterstrust.com/news/2023/03/notes-from-march-meeting-with-ffc-4/
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Quote from: love4ffc on March 16, 2023, 02:18:35 AM
From the March Fulham trust meeting minutes.
https://www.fulhamsupporterstrust.com/news/2023/03/notes-from-march-meeting-with-ffc-4/
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrNNO4cXgB0rezK?format=png&name=small)
Thank you. However I'm amazed it still won't be fully open next season. I can't wait to get out of the Putney end - surrounded by 4 Arsenal supporters last week in P3 - but it seems still won't be able to resume sitting close to the halfway line.
wont be ready for start of next season! what are they doing
The paint ran out and never said goodbye !!
Also they have been sent the wrong size plug for the swimming pool.
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Pathetic but seems to be the case so often these days.
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Agree with this. It's ridiculous to see that part of the grounds half filled, if that much. Brand new stand sitting empty. Really bush league if you ask me. This is the Premier League, yes? I can't believe this hasn't been better planned out. Really unacceptable.
Quote from: WindyCity on March 16, 2023, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Agree with this. It's ridiculous to see that part of the grounds half filled, if that much. Brand new stand sitting empty. Really bush league if you ask me. This is the Premier League, yes? I can't believe this hasn't been better planned out. Really unacceptable.
Let's be fair here it's Khans money that has financed the build, we don't know why it's taking so long, maybe he is not happy with things inside. If you feel it is unacceptable what are you going to do about it. Mr Khan is probably all over it, let's leave it to him to get things sorted.
Sorry if mentioned before, but do we know if the delay has incurred any penalty clauses?
Rumour has it that things aren't right with builders since march they fell out of love,and I have been told there is things going on behind the scenes, it doesn't help when our wonderful club as usual don't say sweet FA.
Sorry I ment march last year.
Quote from: MickTheBeard on March 16, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
Rumour has it that things aren't right with builders since march they fell out of love,and I have been told there is things going on behind the scenes, it doesn't help when our wonderful club as usual don't say sweet FA.
If it's a dispute between FFC and the builders I doubt well be privy to the discussion unless it goes to court. Both sides will be holding their card close to their chests until they can agree on a statement that is amenable to both sides. The builders will have a reputation to uphold as it would affect future business opps.
I think to add to the theatre - entry to the Riverside should be by Pirate Ship, board at Putney pier, away anchor, cannons blasting, sea shanty & rum...it makes perfect sense
Quote from: alfie on March 16, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on March 16, 2023, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Agree with this. It's ridiculous to see that part of the grounds half filled, if that much. Brand new stand sitting empty. Really bush league if you ask me. This is the Premier League, yes? I can't believe this hasn't been better planned out. Really unacceptable.
Let's be fair here it's Khans money that has financed the build, we don't know why it's taking so long, maybe he is not happy with things inside. If you feel it is unacceptable what are you going to do about it. Mr Khan is probably all over it, let's leave it to him to get things sorted.
The Khans are doing a great job at Fulham and most of us are grateful for their effort.
However I would expect their attitude to be similar to the owners of big country estates that have inherited properties that has been in their families for generations.
That is that they are simply the gaurdians of the property and have a duty to see that it is functioning properly and will be in a fit state to pass on to future generations.
The Khans have a duty to the fans , many have been around for a long time.
I reckon we've already got the same capacity and better facilities than when the old Riverside was there. Sure its a long delay, but the delay is both build-related (its hard to build on the Thames!) and also because they've tweaked the design even more upmarket so in the long run will generate more income to the club.
Quote from: filham on March 17, 2023, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: alfie on March 16, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on March 16, 2023, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Agree with this. It's ridiculous to see that part of the grounds half filled, if that much. Brand new stand sitting empty. Really bush league if you ask me. This is the Premier League, yes? I can't believe this hasn't been better planned out. Really unacceptable.
Let's be fair here it's Khans money that has financed the build, we don't know why it's taking so long, maybe he is not happy with things inside. If you feel it is unacceptable what are you going to do about it. Mr Khan is probably all over it, let's leave it to him to get things sorted.
The Khans are doing a great job at Fulham and most of us are grateful for their effort.
However I would expect their attitude to be similar to the owners of big country estates that have inherited properties that has been in their families for generations.
That is that they are simply the gaurdians of the property and have a duty to see that it is functioning properly and will be in a fit state to pass on to future generations.
The Khans have a duty to the fans , many have been around for a long time.
They didn't actually inherit the club they bought it and if they have a duty to to see the club functioning properly than that is their business to do what they choose to do with it. If there are changes to the stand that SK has asked for or whatever it will be what it will be.
when did demolition of old stand start - summer 2019?
nearly 4 years ago!
Quote from: cookieg on March 17, 2023, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: filham on March 17, 2023, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: alfie on March 16, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on March 16, 2023, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Agree with this. It's ridiculous to see that part of the grounds half filled, if that much. Brand new stand sitting empty. Really bush league if you ask me. This is the Premier League, yes? I can't believe this hasn't been better planned out. Really unacceptable.
Let's be fair here it's Khans money that has financed the build, we don't know why it's taking so long, maybe he is not happy with things inside. If you feel it is unacceptable what are you going to do about it. Mr Khan is probably all over it, let's leave it to him to get things sorted.
The Khans are doing a great job at Fulham and most of us are grateful for their effort.
However I would expect their attitude to be similar to the owners of big country estates that have inherited properties that has been in their families for generations.
That is that they are simply the gaurdians of the property and have a duty to see that it is functioning properly and will be in a fit state to pass on to future generations.
The Khans have a duty to the fans , many have been around for a long time.
They didn't actually inherit the club they bought it and if they have a duty to to see the club functioning properly than that is their business to do what they choose to do with it. If there are changes to the stand that SK has asked for or whatever it will be what it will be.
So pleased that Jimmy Hill and others didn't take a similar attitude when we were destined for the Bush and the Cottage was about to become a housing development.
Quote from: Huxley on March 16, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on March 16, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
Rumour has it that things aren't right with builders since march they fell out of love,and I have been told there is things going on behind the scenes, it doesn't help when our wonderful club as usual don't say sweet FA.
If it's a dispute between FFC and the builders I doubt well be privy to the discussion unless it goes to court. Both sides will be holding their card close to their chests until they can agree on a statement that is amenable to both sides. The builders will have a reputation to uphold as it would affect future business opps.
I heard a certain company has made a loss on the build, and are reluctant to complete
Quote from: filham on March 17, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: cookieg on March 17, 2023, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: filham on March 17, 2023, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: alfie on March 16, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on March 16, 2023, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
It is really unacceptable that the stand will not be ready for fans at the start of next season, it would seem that football is not the priority. We deserve an explanation.
A full stand adds to the atmosphere and can be the difference between winning and losing matches.
Agree with this. It's ridiculous to see that part of the grounds half filled, if that much. Brand new stand sitting empty. Really bush league if you ask me. This is the Premier League, yes? I can't believe this hasn't been better planned out. Really unacceptable.
Let's be fair here it's Khans money that has financed the build, we don't know why it's taking so long, maybe he is not happy with things inside. If you feel it is unacceptable what are you going to do about it. Mr Khan is probably all over it, let's leave it to him to get things sorted.
The Khans are doing a great job at Fulham and most of us are grateful for their effort.
However I would expect their attitude to be similar to the owners of big country estates that have inherited properties that has been in their families for generations.
That is that they are simply the gaurdians of the property and have a duty to see that it is functioning properly and will be in a fit state to pass on to future generations.
The Khans have a duty to the fans , many have been around for a long time.
They didn't actually inherit the club they bought it and if they have a duty to to see the club functioning properly than that is their business to do what they choose to do with it. If there are changes to the stand that SK has asked for or whatever it will be what it will be.
So pleased that Jimmy Hill and others didn't take a similar attitude when we were destined for the Bush and the Cottage was about to become a housing development.
Well thank god MAF bought us although even he wanted to move us out of CC.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 17, 2023, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: Huxley on March 16, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on March 16, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
Rumour has it that things aren't right with builders since march they fell out of love,and I have been told there is things going on behind the scenes, it doesn't help when our wonderful club as usual don't say sweet FA.
If it's a dispute between FFC and the builders I doubt well be privy to the discussion unless it goes to court. Both sides will be holding their card close to their chests until they can agree on a statement that is amenable to both sides. The builders will have a reputation to uphold as it would affect future business opps.
I heard a certain company has made a loss on the build, and are reluctant to complete
I believe the contractors are showing a loss on the project of between 14 and 18 million. Part of the delay has also been due to the firm providing the cladding having gone bust. Some of the loss will have been caused by the increase in costs related to the pandemic and, if so, I am told that the contractors will argue that that part is a "force majeure" and should be covered by the club - who should have insurance against it. No doubt the apparent halt for the last 2 months will be while the lawyers try to sort it all out! Don't hold your breath.
Quote from: LittleErn on March 17, 2023, 10:19:47 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 17, 2023, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: Huxley on March 16, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on March 16, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
Rumour has it that things aren't right with builders since march they fell out of love,and I have been told there is things going on behind the scenes, it doesn't help when our wonderful club as usual don't say sweet FA.
If it's a dispute between FFC and the builders I doubt well be privy to the discussion unless it goes to court. Both sides will be holding their card close to their chests until they can agree on a statement that is amenable to both sides. The builders will have a reputation to uphold as it would affect future business opps.
I heard a certain company has made a loss on the build, and are reluctant to complete
I believe the contractors are showing a loss on the project of between 14 and 18 million. Part of the delay has also been due to the firm providing the cladding having gone bust. Some of the loss will have been caused by the increase in costs related to the pandemic and, if so, I am told that the contractors will argue that that part is a "force majeure" and should be covered by the club - who should have insurance against it. No doubt the apparent halt for the last 2 months will be while the lawyers try to sort it all out! Don't hold your breath.
Quote from: LittleErn on March 17, 2023, 10:19:47 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 17, 2023, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: Huxley on March 16, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on March 16, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
Rumour has it that things aren't right with builders since march they fell out of love,and I have been told there is things going on behind the scenes, it doesn't help when our wonderful club as usual don't say sweet FA.
If it's a dispute between FFC and the builders I doubt well be privy to the discussion unless it goes to court. Both sides will be holding their card close to their chests until they can agree on a statement that is amenable to both sides. The builders will have a reputation to uphold as it would affect future business opps.
I heard a certain company has made a loss on the build, and are reluctant to complete
I believe the contractors are showing a loss on the project of between 14 and 18 million. Part of the delay has also been due to the firm providing the cladding having gone bust. Some of the loss will have been caused by the increase in costs related to the pandemic and, if so, I am told that the contractors will argue that that part is a "force majeure" and should be covered by the club - who should have insurance against it. No doubt the apparent halt for the last 2 months will be while the lawyers try to sort it all out! Don't hold your breath.
Yep, that's what I heard - but I wasn't sure if we could say it on here
Oh dear, sounds bad and best forecast for completion is probably, this year, next year, sometime, never.