Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 18, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
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Quote from: Statto on December 18, 2016, 10:55:40 AM
What are our targets? My thoughts:
#1 priority - striker
#2 priority - goalkeeper
#3 priority - centre back
regarding the last one, i'm going to completely contradict some of my recent posts and say sig looked poor yesterday. one way or another something needs to change at the back because we're nowhere near solid enough. plus there's the risk of kalas getting injured (which he may have already) and in any case, if he's leaving at the end of the season i'd rather start integrating his replacement in the second half of this season. one thing i don't want is to miss out on promotion this season and then mess up next season by starting with an incomplete team again.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 18, 2016, 03:25:13 PMAre you going to start a "We need a Striker" thread this window??
Who have you asked?
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 18, 2016, 03:54:50 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 18, 2016, 03:25:13 PMAre you going to start a "We need a Striker" thread this window??
Who have you asked?
I always enjoy one of those :)
Quote from: Riversider on December 18, 2016, 04:23:11 PM
Newcastle have got two players in their massive squad that are currently not getting a game that I think would do a job for us,
Firstly, striker Daryl Murphy, signed from Ipswich in the summer , could come in and do a similar job to the one that Glenn Murray is doing for Brighton,
Secondly, Grant Hanley, a man mountain of a centre half, big strong no nonsense type of commanding player, just what we need,
Leave Martin as he is on loan until the summer and use the money to buy those two instead, instantly were stronger.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 18, 2016, 05:56:06 PMCould be making a wrong inference here, but you're saying that like Martin gets buckets of chances. My impression is that the majority of goal scoring opportunities don't fall to him, but if they did we'd be in a much better position.
Many people ( or a few keep repeating it) say a pacy forward is a priority !
Pace is important but personally, I think we have enough pace now, whats needed is someone who's cooler in front of goal and can convert a bigger percentage of all the chances we are making.
Also agree, a better keeper and a CB as good as Kalas would round things off nicely.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 18, 2016, 03:54:50 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 18, 2016, 03:25:13 PMAre you going to start a "We need a Striker" thread this window??
Who have you asked?
I always enjoy one of those :)
Quote from: Twig on December 18, 2016, 04:05:37 PMBut we are only playing one up top, so with two new strikers we will have one playing, one on the bench and three taking valuable prime seats in the stand. Extravagant isn't it.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 18, 2016, 03:54:50 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 18, 2016, 03:25:13 PMAre you going to start a "We need a Striker" thread this window??
Who have you asked?
I always enjoy one of those :)
Given we only have Smith, Woodrow and Humphries on our books I would say we need to sign two strikers.
Quote from: FPT on December 19, 2016, 10:29:20 AM
Here's a question: Where do you think we'd be in the table if we had David Stockdale in goal and Lewis Dunk partnering Tomas Kalas?
A reliable and very good goalkeeper at this level, and Dunk a real elite central defender in the division - Dunk's qualities and physical attributes would make him a perfect partner for Kalas as well. Of course all is hypothetical but I would be very confident of our position with those two.
*Side note: This isn't me suggesting we sign them both.*
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 19, 2016, 08:05:48 AMQuote from: Riversider on December 18, 2016, 04:23:11 PM
Newcastle have got two players in their massive squad that are currently not getting a game that I think would do a job for us,
Firstly, striker Daryl Murphy, signed from Ipswich in the summer , could come in and do a similar job to the one that Glenn Murray is doing for Brighton,
Secondly, Grant Hanley, a man mountain of a centre half, big strong no nonsense type of commanding player, just what we need,
Leave Martin as he is on loan until the summer and use the money to buy those two instead, instantly were stronger.
I would also go for Grant Hanley and Daryl Murphy. Hanley a big uncompromising unit that has bags of experience in the English League, and won't need time to settle in as opposed to an overseas player coming in. He will handle cold winter nights up at Burton Albion better than the average man, and he knows how to eat dirt. Harry Maguire is another centre back I rate that could be made available.
Some of the same for Daryl Murphy who needs a change of scenary to kick start his campaign again. Knows where the goal is, and we could do and have done far worse than recruit these particular players. Unless Jok has a cunning plan to snatch Jermain Defoe and Robert Huth from their particular clubs.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 19, 2016, 12:15:35 PM
Fulham are poised to launch an audacious bid to pip Birmingham to the permanent signing of Burnley striker Lucas Jutkiewicz, according to the Daily Mirror.
Jutkiewicz has scored six goals in seventeen appearances during a successful loan spell at St. Andrew's and the 6ft 1in forward had talked positively about the prospect of making his move from Turf Moor permanent in the new year. But that was before the abrupt sacking of popular manager Gary Rowett shocked the Blues squad, something which Jutkiewicz revealed in an interview with the Birmingham Mail over the weekend.
New Birmingham boss Gianfranco Zola remains keen on signing Jutkiewicz on a full-time basis when the transfer window reopens, but he may have competition from several Championship rivals. One of those will be Fulham, who are keen to supplement Slavisa Jokanovic's striking options in January, as he currently has only on-loan Chris Martin, Matt Smith, Cauley Woodrow and in-form youth team forward Stevie Humphrys to select from.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 19, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
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Wolves and Fulham are both interested in signing Blackburn Rovers winger Ben Marshall, who is out of contract in the summer.
Quote from: Statto on December 19, 2016, 01:27:40 PMQuote from: @jolslover on December 19, 2016, 01:20:51 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 19, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
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Wolves and Fulham are both interested in signing Blackburn Rovers winger Ben Marshall, who is out of contract in the summer.
Would spend the money elsewhere, Think wingers is the last area we need to strengthen. With Ayite Aluko Piazon and Kebano we have great depth, and thats without mentioning LVC.
But LVC isn't a winger and Kebano doesn't look any good. If Paizon leaves then we've only two wingers, Ayite and Aluko, with no decent back up for either. Piazon is officially supposed to be going back to Chelsea and Ayite to AFCON. We should certainly go for Marshall if he's available IMO. We were apparently quoted £2m in the summer, 6 months later the cost is likely to be only £1m now and given Balckburn's position he'll be even more motivated to leave
Quote from: HatterDon on December 19, 2016, 03:18:02 PMYou've done this before, haven't you?
here's my prediction for January:
1. there will be dozens of almost identical threads all dealing with the transfer period
2. names will pop up as the result of 11 year olds with Twitter accounts
3. each time some "attractive" name pops up, it will engender comments negative to the board and the owner
4. in the end, there will be around 10 players mooted on the site who won't be signed by us ... gloom and doom will ensue
5. if we sign players, the chances are good that they will be players that nobody saw coming ... moaning about lack of ambition and competence will ensue
6. The team will continue to play attractive, attacking football with players old and new.
"I could be wrong now / but I don't think so / it's a jungle out there"
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 19, 2016, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 19, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL
Wolves and Fulham are both interested in signing Blackburn Rovers winger Ben Marshall, who is out of contract in the summer.
Ben Marshall would be a good addition, and will most certainly enhance the teams prospects for a top six place. If the price is right then he is most certainly worth signing.
Quote from: HatterDon on December 19, 2016, 03:18:02 PM
here's my prediction for January:
1. there will be dozens of almost identical threads all dealing with the transfer period
2. names will pop up as the result of 11 year olds with Twitter accounts
3. each time some "attractive" name pops up, it will engender comments negative to the board and the owner
4. in the end, there will be around 10 players mooted on the site who won't be signed by us ... gloom and doom will ensue
5. if we sign players, the chances are good that they will be players that nobody saw coming ... moaning about lack of ambition and competence will ensue
6. The team will continue to play attractive, attacking football with players old and new.
"I could be wrong now / but I don't think so / it's a jungle out there"
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 12:11:32 PMRumour was he signed a contract with us back in August when he was at Motspur, so will be interesting to see where he goes.
Bogle done and dusted to Notts Forest I believe.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 19, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
Got to fancy SMITH to moves on in Jan. Why would he stay??
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 12:24:44 PMHe only cost us 500k, can't lose much on him then.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 19, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
Got to fancy SMITH to moves on in Jan. Why would he stay??
Yes , he has never been given a real chance at Fulham. Personally I like him as he always causes some disturbance in the opponent's box and provides a ready target to enable quick balls to be delivered from defence. However, he is clearly not part of Jocanovic's plans so it would be best for him and us if he leaves.
Just hope we don't give him away , he must be worth a reasonable amount to some club.
Quote from: RaySmith on December 20, 2016, 12:35:34 PMcover for who, martin piazon and even humphrys are now ahead in the pecking order.
Maybe better for Matt is he moved on. I've always liked him - a wholehearted player, with many assets to the right team, but doesn't seem to be in Slavisa's plans.
On the other hand - don't we still need him as cover at least, unless we bring at lest one other striker in.
Quote from: gerrys on December 20, 2016, 12:35:43 PMBut we are not going to get an equivalent or better replacement for 500K so I hope we are looking for £1m or more.Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 12:24:44 PMHe only cost us 500k, can't lose much on him then.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 19, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
Got to fancy SMITH to moves on in Jan. Why would he stay??
Yes , he has never been given a real chance at Fulham. Personally I like him as he always causes some disturbance in the opponent's box and provides a ready target to enable quick balls to be delivered from defence. However, he is clearly not part of Jocanovic's plans so it would be best for him and us if he leaves.
Just hope we don't give him away , he must be worth a reasonable amount to some club.
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 01:27:52 PMWhy would you want an equivalent? We need someone much betterQuote from: gerrys on December 20, 2016, 12:35:43 PMBut we are not going to get an equivalent or better replacement for 500K so I hope we are looking for £1m or more.Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 12:24:44 PMHe only cost us 500k, can't lose much on him then.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 19, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
Got to fancy SMITH to moves on in Jan. Why would he stay??
Yes , he has never been given a real chance at Fulham. Personally I like him as he always causes some disturbance in the opponent's box and provides a ready target to enable quick balls to be delivered from defence. However, he is clearly not part of Jocanovic's plans so it would be best for him and us if he leaves.
Just hope we don't give him away , he must be worth a reasonable amount to some club.
Quote from: Statto on December 20, 2016, 12:37:32 PMhow many championship transfers do you expect across the 24 clubs in first week of January?
bearing in mind there's actually been nothing to stop us agreeing deals since September it would be nice to get something done for the start of the window or at least in the first two weeks, and to have those players available for the 4 games (10% of our season!) we've to get through in the second half.
But this is Fulham so of course I fully expect the next 40 days to pass by with no activity then a couple of disappointing announcements around 9pm on the last day of the window
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 12:20:50 PM
Sunday paper stated Forest odds on to sign him.
I dont know if he good enough anyway.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 20, 2016, 01:33:16 PMOf course we want someone better but that rarely happens. For someone better than Smith we will have to pay upwards of £5m and therefore we should not think of letting Smith leave for anything under £1mQuote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 01:27:52 PMWhy would you want an equivalent? We need someone much betterQuote from: gerrys on December 20, 2016, 12:35:43 PMBut we are not going to get an equivalent or better replacement for 500K so I hope we are looking for £1m or more.Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 12:24:44 PMHe only cost us 500k, can't lose much on him then.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 19, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
Got to fancy SMITH to moves on in Jan. Why would he stay??
Yes , he has never been given a real chance at Fulham. Personally I like him as he always causes some disturbance in the opponent's box and provides a ready target to enable quick balls to be delivered from defence. However, he is clearly not part of Jocanovic's plans so it would be best for him and us if he leaves.
Just hope we don't give him away , he must be worth a reasonable amount to some club.
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 04:19:10 PMQuote from: fulhamben on December 20, 2016, 01:33:16 PMOf course we want someone better but that rarely happens. For someone better than Smith we will have to pay upwards of £5m and therefore we should not think of letting Smith leave for anything under £1mQuote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 01:27:52 PMWhy would you want an equivalent? We need someone much betterQuote from: gerrys on December 20, 2016, 12:35:43 PMBut we are not going to get an equivalent or better replacement for 500K so I hope we are looking for £1m or more.Quote from: filham on December 20, 2016, 12:24:44 PMHe only cost us 500k, can't lose much on him then.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 19, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
Got to fancy SMITH to moves on in Jan. Why would he stay??
Yes , he has never been given a real chance at Fulham. Personally I like him as he always causes some disturbance in the opponent's box and provides a ready target to enable quick balls to be delivered from defence. However, he is clearly not part of Jocanovic's plans so it would be best for him and us if he leaves.
Just hope we don't give him away , he must be worth a reasonable amount to some club.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 05:30:36 PMPatience, Jozabad is just getting used to language and the change of country and league. Taking time to settle in.
Can we get our money back on Kebano and Jozabed?
Surely the most wasted 7 million of the Summer Window by any club.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 20, 2016, 07:39:54 PM
Could it be us?
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko
Scott Hogan developments. Very big bid in. Championship side. Don't think ever been linked with him before.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 10:32:43 PM
RB Leipzig interested in Ryan Sessegnon
Quote from: AlexW132 on December 20, 2016, 11:43:36 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 10:32:43 PM
RB Leipzig interested in Ryan Sessegnon
Hopefully Ryan realizes he's better off at a genuine club rather than a Red Bull ad campaign.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 21, 2016, 12:40:48 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 20, 2016, 11:43:36 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 10:32:43 PM
RB Leipzig interested in Ryan Sessegnon
Hopefully Ryan realizes he's better off at a genuine club rather than a Red Bull ad campaign.
You mean potential Bundesliga champion? Or potential Bundesliga Champions Lge representative? Look down on them if you will but, if they maintain their form, they're certainly far more than an ad campaign.
And while we're at it, EVERY major professional club is an ad campaign for someone or something. Why treat them differently?
Quote from: Nero on December 20, 2016, 08:59:52 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 20, 2016, 07:39:54 PM
Could it be us?
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko
Scott Hogan developments. Very big bid in. Championship side. Don't think ever been linked with him before.
Cant be us says Very Big Bid we dont start off with Big Bids
Quote from: river phoenix on December 21, 2016, 08:51:16 AM
Villa. They already have McCormack, Kodjia, Ayew, Kozak and Agbonlahor, they spent on two of them close to 30 mil this season and now Hogan. How many strikers do they need?
Just like Sheff. Wednesday. Hooper, Forestieri, Fletcher, Joao, Nuhiu... and they want to bid big for Rhodes.
Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:51:47 AM
Not sure I'd gamble on Hogan. Past injures and ok hes been hot for Brentford this calendar year but hardly proven.
Quote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 08:54:55 AMIts 20 goals since April this year because he was out till March with injury
I'm not sure 20 goals over 2 seasons should warrant a 9 million price tag.
Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:58:34 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 08:54:55 AMIts 20 goals since April this year because he was out till March with injury
I'm not sure 20 goals over 2 seasons should warrant a 9 million price tag.
Quote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 09:08:32 AMAgreed. As i said he's on a hot streak. He did give us problems and I liked the look of him, I'd just want more proof he has it in him if I was looking to spend on him.Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:58:34 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 08:54:55 AMIts 20 goals since April this year because he was out till March with injury
I'm not sure 20 goals over 2 seasons should warrant a 9 million price tag.
I suppose so, but I'd give a player 2 whole seasons before I'd call them proven.
Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 09:16:31 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 09:08:32 AMAgreed. As i said he's on a hot streak. He did give us problems and I liked the look of him, I'd just want more proof he has it in him if I was looking to spend on him.Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:58:34 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 08:54:55 AMIts 20 goals since April this year because he was out till March with injury
I'm not sure 20 goals over 2 seasons should warrant a 9 million price tag.
I suppose so, but I'd give a player 2 whole seasons before I'd call them proven.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 21, 2016, 09:21:56 AM
Cairney to Brighton for £3m next month???? Anyone seen anything about this? Was told this by a Brighton fan so it could just be a wind up.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 21, 2016, 09:23:32 AMBut given hes less than a year after that injury and while his short term record is good, for me hes not worth big cash, so in this case I'd back the club if they dont want him at a high price.Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 09:16:31 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 09:08:32 AMAgreed. As i said he's on a hot streak. He did give us problems and I liked the look of him, I'd just want more proof he has it in him if I was looking to spend on him.Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:58:34 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 08:54:55 AMIts 20 goals since April this year because he was out till March with injury
I'm not sure 20 goals over 2 seasons should warrant a 9 million price tag.
I suppose so, but I'd give a player 2 whole seasons before I'd call them proven.
We couldnt afford him, or we could but Khan would never sanction it. Bees mates love him, hes injury free now and is a fantastic finisher.
Anyone who scores goals is going for silly money track record or not, another pluck from Warburton too to go aling with Andre Gray
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 21, 2016, 09:21:56 AMN* F****** C*****
Cairney to Brighton for £3m next month???? Anyone seen anything about this? Was told this by a Brighton fan so it could just be a wind up.
Quote from: Statto on December 21, 2016, 09:36:44 AMQuote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:51:47 AM
Not sure I'd gamble on Hogan. Past injures and ok hes been hot for Brentford this calendar year but hardly proven.
+1
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2016, 09:43:09 AMGiven LVC's history and you were looking at buying him would you be concerned by his hamstring history or ignore it?Quote from: Statto on December 21, 2016, 09:36:44 AMQuote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 08:51:47 AM
Not sure I'd gamble on Hogan. Past injures and ok hes been hot for Brentford this calendar year but hardly proven.
+1
Looks sharp as anybody what I've seen of him,wouldn't worry too much about His past injury,we could spend 10 million on another and he could break his leg first game...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2016, 09:55:28 AMAny player can get injured thats correct. But you can mitigate against ones with history, otherwise why have medicals?
The point is lots of players have history of injuries, the point is he is looking good and free from them now,and in my opinion far better than most strikers in the league so take a chance.
And like I've said already anybody could get injured first game.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2016, 10:05:00 AMOk so we know the league is crap, BUT at least he has done it 3 seasons on the trot.
Yes agree about the price,these quotes are getting out of hand.
That's why I'd like to see us go back in for Jason Cummings of Hibs who we were interested in the summer window.2 million would get him.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 21, 2016, 11:54:36 AM
2m
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko
Reading boss Jaap Stam makes record £9m bid for Brentford goal machine Scott Hogan
:wow:
Quote from: AlexW132 on December 21, 2016, 01:31:04 AMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 21, 2016, 12:40:48 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on December 20, 2016, 11:43:36 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2016, 10:32:43 PM
RB Leipzig interested in Ryan Sessegnon
Hopefully Ryan realizes he's better off at a genuine club rather than a Red Bull ad campaign.
You mean potential Bundesliga champion? Or potential Bundesliga Champions Lge representative? Look down on them if you will but, if they maintain their form, they're certainly far more than an ad campaign.
And while we're at it, EVERY major professional club is an ad campaign for someone or something. Why treat them differently?
Don't get me wrong. They're a good club on the pitch, and I can see them becoming a dominant force for years to come. However I believe what they do is morally wrong. They buy out a club, rebrand it with Red Bull logos and pour in the money. They starve all the other clubs of their young talent by paying ridiculous money, i.e. Timo Werner, Oliver Burke, Davie Selke, etc. and as a result glide through the divisions with ease. Yes, what they do in terms of youth development is admirable, but that's about as far as it goes. It's no surprise they are top of the Bundesliga right now, and in my opinion they could be the new Bayern in the future in terms of dominance. At the end of the day, RB's purpose is to sell an energy drink. The only reason they are RB Leipzig and not Red Bull is because the DFB won't allow it. Just imagine, would you be happy if we were called Red Bull Fulham? or Visit Florida Fulham? I would never EVER want us to become anything like that, even if it meant we became Premier League champions. At the end of the day, football is about fans and not anything else.
Quote from: Riversider on December 21, 2016, 02:01:36 PMNot sure what there is to work out.
Interesting that all the posters on here that insist we should spend £9 million on Chris Martin in January are the same ones saying "no thanks" to Scott Hogan !!! Work that one out,
Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
£9M bid for Hogan from Reading according to good source on Twitter.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 21, 2016, 09:44:46 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/12/21/fulham-wigan-join-chase-for-tshibola/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/12/21/fulham-wigan-join-chase-for-tshibola/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Quote from: mlangstrom on December 21, 2016, 11:06:09 PMThat is a very good summary of the situation but I doubt if we can afford to spend all of the required money as well as finding the £9m for Martin. We really have to give up on Martin at that price and spend elsewhere.
Will we go up this season, well there is always a chance but we will have to be unbelievably lucky with this squad. I think we need (not that we will get) the below to be in with a realistic chance of reaching the playoff final.
#1 Forwards for starting 11
A forward that can play together, and equally important instead of, Martin. We can't afford a class forward on the bench so we need a "10 goal" forward that can play alongside Martin but also replace him in the event of injury/suspension etc.
(Dominic Solanke? Hal Robson-Kanu?)
#2 Central defender for starting eleven
I had high hope for or Icelandic hero but feel let down, a new partner to Kalas is needed.
(James Tarkowski? Grant Hanley?)
#3 First choice Goalkeeper
Button is a decent Championship keeper but not strong enough to win us the extra points needed for a promotion.
(Asmir Begovic? Wayne Hennessey? Kristoffer Nordfeldt?
#4 Central Midfield squad player
Johansen and McD have been class but they will be suspended, injured and tired. Parker is unfortunately no longer good enough to be third choice.
(Ruben Loftus-Cheek? Aaron Tshibola)
Quote from: filham on December 22, 2016, 01:03:19 PMQuote from: mlangstrom on December 21, 2016, 11:06:09 PMThat is a very good summary of the situation but I doubt if we can afford to spend all of the required money as well as finding the £9m for Martin. We really have to give up on Martin at that price and spend elsewhere.
Will we go up this season, well there is always a chance but we will have to be unbelievably lucky with this squad. I think we need (not that we will get) the below to be in with a realistic chance of reaching the playoff final.
#1 Forwards for starting 11
A forward that can play together, and equally important instead of, Martin. We can't afford a class forward on the bench so we need a "10 goal" forward that can play alongside Martin but also replace him in the event of injury/suspension etc.
(Dominic Solanke? Hal Robson-Kanu?)
#2 Central defender for starting eleven
I had high hope for or Icelandic hero but feel let down, a new partner to Kalas is needed.
(James Tarkowski? Grant Hanley?)
#3 First choice Goalkeeper
Button is a decent Championship keeper but not strong enough to win us the extra points needed for a promotion.
(Asmir Begovic? Wayne Hennessey? Kristoffer Nordfeldt?
#4 Central Midfield squad player
Johansen and McD have been class but they will be suspended, injured and tired. Parker is unfortunately no longer good enough to be third choice.
(Ruben Loftus-Cheek? Aaron Tshibola)
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Totally agree apart from Kanu.
Quote from: mlangstrom on December 21, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
Will we go up this season, well there is always a chance but we will have to be unbelievably lucky with this squad. I think we need (not that we will get) the below to be in with a realistic chance of reaching the playoff final.
#1 Forwards for starting 11
A forward that can play together, and equally important instead of, Martin. We can't afford a class forward on the bench so we need a "10 goal" forward that can play alongside Martin but also replace him in the event of injury/suspension etc.
(Dominic Solanke? Hal Robson-Kanu?)
#2 Central defender for starting eleven
I had high hope for or Icelandic hero but feel let down, a new partner to Kalas is needed.
(James Tarkowski? Grant Hanley?)
#3 First choice Goalkeeper
Button is a decent Championship keeper but not strong enough to win us the extra points needed for a promotion.
(Asmir Begovic? Wayne Hennessey? Kristoffer Nordfeldt?
#4 Central Midfield squad player
Johansen and McD have been class but they will be suspended, injured and tired. Parker is unfortunately no longer good enough to be third choice.
(Ruben Loftus-Cheek? Aaron Tshibola)
Quote from: Statto on December 21, 2016, 04:25:26 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 21, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
But as I've already pointed out, to all the experts that want to spend £9 million on Martin now, why not continue the loan to the summer and use the money on a player like Hogan, that way you have two options up top,
Perfect sense to me.
Why would anybody want Fulham Football Club to put all their options in one basket ?
We need another striker who wants to argue against that ?
here's a few reasons which I think were mentioned the other day but to repeat...
1. As far as I'm aware this idea that signing another striker is contingent on us not signing martin is merely speculation by you
2. if not signed permanently, martin won't be available for at least the 6-pointer v derby in april and, if we make the play-offs, 1 or 2 games against them then
3. if not signed in January, the option to sign for £9m may not be exercisable in the summer (again as far as I'm aware you're just speculating about the terms of the deal)
4. there's a good chance that having to commit his future to Fulham will have a positive effect on the player's focus and performance for the rest of the season
Quote from: Statto on December 22, 2016, 03:40:42 PMI'm hearing that Martin is going back, might see a certain family member next week so I'll try and find outQuote from: Riversider on December 22, 2016, 03:24:14 PMQuote from: Statto on December 21, 2016, 04:25:26 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 21, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
But as I've already pointed out, to all the experts that want to spend £9 million on Martin now, why not continue the loan to the summer and use the money on a player like Hogan, that way you have two options up top,
Perfect sense to me.
Why would anybody want Fulham Football Club to put all their options in one basket ?
We need another striker who wants to argue against that ?
here's a few reasons which I think were mentioned the other day but to repeat...
1. As far as I'm aware this idea that signing another striker is contingent on us not signing martin is merely speculation by you
2. if not signed permanently, martin won't be available for at least the 6-pointer v derby in april and, if we make the play-offs, 1 or 2 games against them then
3. if not signed in January, the option to sign for £9m may not be exercisable in the summer (again as far as I'm aware you're just speculating about the terms of the deal)
4. there's a good chance that having to commit his future to Fulham will have a positive effect on the player's focus and performance for the rest of the season
Loving your great authority and your complete certainty of Point 2, which as we all know is complete and utter ******ks !
this is somewhat ironic because points 1, 3 and 4 are admittedly all matters on which we're both speculating but we can be pretty certain about point 2.
Quote from: FPT on December 20, 2016, 11:48:34 AMFPT, as always a great post.
I like the links to Ben Marshall, been a fan of his for a while. Can play either wing and has played right back for an extended spell recently for Blackburn which is all nice cover (I know we have both Fredericks and Odoi but in any case we may want to go to three at the back - it's a more offensive focused and more knowledgeable player going forward at wing back).
Just spitballing ideas; I would have no qualms with James Tarkowski. We were linked in Kit's one and only summer, I think as an alternative to Lewis Dunk and we ended up with both Tim Ream and Richard Stearman. He has since moved to Burnley but not frequently used (little over 100 minutes for them this season). He's left footed, good on the ball and would make a nice partner for Tomas Kalas both in and out of possession. I did hear inklings of wanting to be closer to home when he moved to Brentford in the winter window last year, plus Burnley may wish to keep him as a ready made replacement for Michael Keane seeing the rumours swirling around in that case.
Marcus Bettinelli to Cardiff is interesting. Story says he'd go to be their number on loan which is good news for him and his development.
Omar Bogle is an odd one, scoring lower down but always the question if he can score after jumping up two divisions. It is reminiscent of Andre Gray going to Brentford, Gray was the same age as Bogle is now when he moved to Brentford and that was without any Football League experience. At least Bogle has bagged 16 in 18 matches at League Two level. Martin will be our number one striker, but I do like getting in someone like Bogle who will develop training at this level alone and will provide a different exciting option to Chris Martin.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 23, 2016, 09:17:01 AMWe should offer £8m. He will get us 18 goals between Jan & May.
Defoe to West Ham 6 million
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 23, 2016, 01:09:29 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on December 23, 2016, 09:17:01 AMWe should offer £8m. He will get us 18 goals between Jan & May.
Defoe to West Ham 6 million
COYW----- Make it happen!!
Quote from: f321ffc on December 25, 2016, 12:05:36 PMWould be happy with this, More mobile than Martin and got a lower minutes per goal ratio in a better league.
Back in for Enrich?
The Liga @fichajespain Fulham and Watford want to incorporate into its ranks of Sergi Enrich, from Eibar.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 25, 2016, 12:05:36 PMwasn't he involved in some sex tape scandal / story this season
Back in for Enrich?
The Liga @fichajespain Fulham and Watford want to incorporate into its ranks of Sergi Enrich, from Eibar.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 25, 2016, 05:10:50 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 25, 2016, 12:05:36 PMwasn't he involved in some sex tape scandal / story this season
Back in for Enrich?
The Liga @fichajespain Fulham and Watford want to incorporate into its ranks of Sergi Enrich, from Eibar.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 25, 2016, 05:10:50 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 25, 2016, 12:05:36 PMwasn't he involved in some sex tape scandal / story this season
Back in for Enrich?
The Liga @fichajespain Fulham and Watford want to incorporate into its ranks of Sergi Enrich, from Eibar.
Quote from: maoconnor on December 25, 2016, 05:55:55 PMI was asking as wasn't sure if it was anything at all, just remember something coming up on the board a while backQuote from: westcliff white on December 25, 2016, 05:10:50 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 25, 2016, 12:05:36 PMwasn't he involved in some sex tape scandal / story this season
Back in for Enrich?
The Liga @fichajespain Fulham and Watford want to incorporate into its ranks of Sergi Enrich, from Eibar.
Honestly, the way I see it is that any sort of sex tape or scandal is his personal business (so long as it wasn't with another teammates spouse or causes a rift within the squad) and if it is in the past let it stay there. If he can add positive play to our attacking options, be a more clinical front man, and get us the points to retain a Top 6 spot then he is well worth the money and risk.
Quote from: Statto on December 22, 2016, 03:40:42 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 22, 2016, 03:24:14 PMQuote from: Statto on December 21, 2016, 04:25:26 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 21, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
But as I've already pointed out, to all the experts that want to spend £9 million on Martin now, why not continue the loan to the summer and use the money on a player like Hogan, that way you have two options up top,
Perfect sense to me.
Why would anybody want Fulham Football Club to put all their options in one basket ?
We need another striker who wants to argue against that ?
here's a few reasons which I think were mentioned the other day but to repeat...
1. As far as I'm aware this idea that signing another striker is contingent on us not signing martin is merely speculation by you
2. if not signed permanently, martin won't be available for at least the 6-pointer v derby in april and, if we make the play-offs, 1 or 2 games against them then
3. if not signed in January, the option to sign for £9m may not be exercisable in the summer (again as far as I'm aware you're just speculating about the terms of the deal)
4. there's a good chance that having to commit his future to Fulham will have a positive effect on the player's focus and performance for the rest of the season
Loving your great authority and your complete certainty of Point 2, which as we all know is complete and utter ******ks !
this is somewhat ironic because points 1, 3 and 4 are admittedly all matters on which we're both speculating but we can be pretty certain about point 2.
Quote from: Statto on December 26, 2016, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: @jolslover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:27 PM
Anyway. After a good win today I'll post my possible dream window.
We extend Piazons loan to the end of the season and sign Martin permanently.
We bring in a back up striker on loan. Possibly Bamford whos loan deal at Burnley is finishing. Or we look for a pacey striker abroad
We bring in Bassong. A big CB who is still capable of playing it out the back (important in our current system)
We bring in a creative defensive midfielder on loan. Someone like Tom Carroll or Hyndman (Who I think would fit the way we play now very well). Both these players posses creativity and have/would thrive in possession based systems.
I agreed with this until I got to... Hyndnan. Please no! Even if he were good enough I wouldn't want us humiliating ourselves by going back to someone who thought they were better than us. But in any case, he's slow, lightweight and scared of tackling. The antithesis of someone like johansen, and not in a complimentary way. Surely He'd ruin everything that's good about the team at the moment
Personally I'd prioritise a GK over a DM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:27 PMBassong?? Norwich fans would drive him here in a flash! One of the most calamitous defenders you'll see. We need no nonsense dependable and strong in the air defenders - Hanley
Anyway. After a good win today I'll post my possible dream window.
We extend Piazons loan to the end of the season and sign Martin permanently.
We bring in a back up striker on loan. Possibly Bamford whos loan deal at Burnley is finishing. Or we look for a pacey striker abroad
We bring in Bassong. A big CB who is still capable of playing it out the back (important in our current system)
We bring in a creative defensive midfielder on loan. Someone like Tom Carroll or Hyndman (Who I think would fit the way we play now very well). Both these players posses creativity and have/would thrive in possession based systems.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on December 27, 2016, 12:11:20 AM
Chris David on a flight to London today. Been linked with a return to us on a couple of occasions.
Quote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 12:32:28 AMQuote from: @jolslover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:27 PMBassong?? Norwich fans would drive him here in a flash! One of the most calamitous defenders you'll see. We need no nonsense dependable and strong in the air defenders - Hanley
Anyway. After a good win today I'll post my possible dream window.
We extend Piazons loan to the end of the season and sign Martin permanently.
We bring in a back up striker on loan. Possibly Bamford whos loan deal at Burnley is finishing. Or we look for a pacey striker abroad
We bring in Bassong. A big CB who is still capable of playing it out the back (important in our current system)
We bring in a creative defensive midfielder on loan. Someone like Tom Carroll or Hyndman (Who I think would fit the way we play now very well). Both these players posses creativity and have/would thrive in possession based systems.
maybe....
Quote from: FPT on December 27, 2016, 09:51:04 AMQuote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 12:32:28 AMQuote from: @jolslover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:27 PMBassong?? Norwich fans would drive him here in a flash! One of the most calamitous defenders you'll see. We need no nonsense dependable and strong in the air defenders - Hanley
Anyway. After a good win today I'll post my possible dream window.
We extend Piazons loan to the end of the season and sign Martin permanently.
We bring in a back up striker on loan. Possibly Bamford whos loan deal at Burnley is finishing. Or we look for a pacey striker abroad
We bring in Bassong. A big CB who is still capable of playing it out the back (important in our current system)
We bring in a creative defensive midfielder on loan. Someone like Tom Carroll or Hyndman (Who I think would fit the way we play now very well). Both these players posses creativity and have/would thrive in possession based systems.
maybe....
Just a note on this: if we cared about fan opinion, we wouldn't have signed Scott Malone or Stefan Johansen. Kevin McDonald had his doubters at Wolves. Chris Martin wasn't wanted by many a Derby supporter.
Sebastien Bassong is a very good central defender at this level, is physically very impressive, genuinely left footed, decent on the ball and powerful. He's one of those players, for me, that's balances on that Premier League to Championship ability player. He's ideal for a side going for promotion, but not a player you could take into the Premier League with you.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 27, 2016, 11:49:18 AM
Bassong would be a decent addition to our squad. He will always put in a solid performance. Whats his Discipline record like? I seem to remember him getting quite a few yellows a few seasons back.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 27, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2016/12/fulham-considering-move-for-kiernan/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2016/12/fulham-considering-move-for-kiernan/)
Quote from: HillFace on December 27, 2016, 02:25:18 PMQuote from: mkras99 on December 27, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2016/12/fulham-considering-move-for-kiernan/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2016/12/fulham-considering-move-for-kiernan/)
Oh God no. I know Rangers fans that would want Senderos starting ahead of him. I've seen him a couple of times, live and on telly and he is not a footballer. Complete liability and not even close to the standard of our current defence. For a comparison, Shaun Hutchison is twice the defender he is, imo.
Quote from: @jolslover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:27 PM
Anyway. After a good win today I'll post my possible dream window.
We extend Piazons loan to the end of the season and sign Martin permanently.
We bring in a back up striker on loan. Possibly Bamford whos loan deal at Burnley is finishing. Or we look for a pacey striker abroad
We bring in Bassong. A big CB who is still capable of playing it out the back (important in our current system)
We bring in a creative defensive midfielder on loan. Someone like Tom Carroll or Hyndman (Who I think would fit the way we play now very well). Both these players posses creativity and have/would thrive in possession based systems.
Quote from: TimoFFC on December 27, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
HITC says we want Nouha Dicko from Wolves
Quote from: @jolslover on December 27, 2016, 06:07:39 PMQuote from: TimoFFC on December 27, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
HITC says we want Nouha Dicko from Wolves
Here is the link http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/12/27/por-turkish-side-and-championship-duo-eye-wolves-striker-dicko/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/12/27/por-turkish-side-and-championship-duo-eye-wolves-striker-dicko/)
I follow Wolves a lot and I have to say if this was 2 years ago I would be over the moon. Dicko was a pacey,powerful,skillful striker who caused championship defenders a heap of problems.
Since then he has missed a year of action due to injury and this season has failed to score a single goal since hes been back. He does not look the same striker he once was and looks much slower than he was.
If we could somehow get the original Dicko I would be very pleased but I feel we would he paying for qualities the player doesn't have anymore.
So its a tough one. Hes a player I really like but I just dont think hes the same player he once was. Maybe worth a gamble, Probably not.
But if we could get him back to his pre-injury form it would be a great signing.
Quote from: AlexW132 on December 27, 2016, 07:26:06 PMQuote from: @jolslover on December 27, 2016, 06:07:39 PMQuote from: TimoFFC on December 27, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
HITC says we want Nouha Dicko from Wolves
Here is the link http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/12/27/por-turkish-side-and-championship-duo-eye-wolves-striker-dicko/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/12/27/por-turkish-side-and-championship-duo-eye-wolves-striker-dicko/)
I follow Wolves a lot and I have to say if this was 2 years ago I would be over the moon. Dicko was a pacey,powerful,skillful striker who caused championship defenders a heap of problems.
Since then he has missed a year of action due to injury and this season has failed to score a single goal since hes been back. He does not look the same striker he once was and looks much slower than he was.
If we could somehow get the original Dicko I would be very pleased but I feel we would he paying for qualities the player doesn't have anymore.
So its a tough one. Hes a player I really like but I just dont think hes the same player he once was. Maybe worth a gamble, Probably not.
But if we could get him back to his pre-injury form it would be a great signing.
When we bought Johansen, it was after he had an awful season, and it looked like that was what we were getting. And yet we ended up with the Celtic player of the year kind of Johansen from 2 years ago instead. So you never know.
Quote from: @jolslover on December 27, 2016, 10:54:03 AMQuote from: FPT on December 27, 2016, 09:51:04 AMQuote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 12:32:28 AMQuote from: @jolslover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:27 PMBassong?? Norwich fans would drive him here in a flash! One of the most calamitous defenders you'll see. We need no nonsense dependable and strong in the air defenders - Hanley
Anyway. After a good win today I'll post my possible dream window.
We extend Piazons loan to the end of the season and sign Martin permanently.
We bring in a back up striker on loan. Possibly Bamford whos loan deal at Burnley is finishing. Or we look for a pacey striker abroad
We bring in Bassong. A big CB who is still capable of playing it out the back (important in our current system)
We bring in a creative defensive midfielder on loan. Someone like Tom Carroll or Hyndman (Who I think would fit the way we play now very well). Both these players posses creativity and have/would thrive in possession based systems.
maybe....
Just a note on this: if we cared about fan opinion, we wouldn't have signed Scott Malone or Stefan Johansen. Kevin McDonald had his doubters at Wolves. Chris Martin wasn't wanted by many a Derby supporter.
Sebastien Bassong is a very good central defender at this level, is physically very impressive, genuinely left footed, decent on the ball and powerful. He's one of those players, for me, that's balances on that Premier League to Championship ability player. He's ideal for a side going for promotion, but not a player you could take into the Premier League with you.
+1
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 27, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
If Stoke don't renegotiate a move to extend the loan for Grant from Derby, I would go for him. Been around a long time and a reliable keeper Derby have Carson now so I doubt he will want to go back.
Grant
Bassong
Marshall
Dicko
Piazon extended
Martin permanent
Betts out if we sign a keeper
Smith out
Woodrow out
Tunnicliffe out
I'd be happy with something like that
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 27, 2016, 09:41:05 PMQuite, I hope these guys aren't replacing Rigg any time soon, has anyone seen Bassing play at Norwich? He used to look good at spurs at times but he's been consistently crap at Norwich. Not just fan opinion.
Thank god that Slavisa is in charge is all I can say!
Quote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 10:04:37 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 27, 2016, 09:41:05 PMQuite, I hope these guys aren't replacing Rigg any time soon, has anyone seen Bassing play at Norwich? He used to look good at spurs at times but he's been consistently crap at Norwich. Not just fan opinion.
Thank god that Slavisa is in charge is all I can say!
Quote from: @jolslover on December 27, 2016, 10:15:35 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 10:04:37 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 27, 2016, 09:41:05 PMQuite, I hope these guys aren't replacing Rigg any time soon, has anyone seen Bassing play at Norwich? He used to look good at spurs at times but he's been consistently crap at Norwich. Not just fan opinion.
Thank god that Slavisa is in charge is all I can say!
He was good at Watford in champ (Under Slavisa). I feel Norwich fans give him a lot of stick because he made errors in the premier league. However I believe he is a class CB at this level. As FPT said earlier, Fan opinion doesnt mean much to me as no Celtic fans rated Johansen and Cardiff fans hated Malone!
Quote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 10:52:02 PMQuote from: @jolslover on December 27, 2016, 10:15:35 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on December 27, 2016, 10:04:37 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 27, 2016, 09:41:05 PMQuite, I hope these guys aren't replacing Rigg any time soon, has anyone seen Bassing play at Norwich? He used to look good at spurs at times but he's been consistently crap at Norwich. Not just fan opinion.
Thank god that Slavisa is in charge is all I can say!
He was good at Watford in champ (Under Slavisa). I feel Norwich fans give him a lot of stick because he made errors in the premier league. However I believe he is a class CB at this level. As FPT said earlier, Fan opinion doesnt mean much to me as no Celtic fans rated Johansen and Cardiff fans hated Malone!
He played a few times for Watford and was sent back to Norwich in the January.
He's been relegated 6 times and promoted once I think
Quote from: Andy S on December 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PMCold be true rumour is we had or were very close to breaching the threshold if the rules had t changed. Now it's a rolling 3 years we are still borderline but would be incredibly hard to punish us for the same year twice. Ross's fee keeps us under this last year I believe
I have a funny feeling that it will be loans only during this window to keep in line with FFP.
Quote from: Andy S on December 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PM
I have a funny feeling that it will be loans only during this window to keep in line with FFP.
Quote from: Statto on December 28, 2016, 12:48:23 AMThe last part is what I just said mate, hard to punish us (and others) twice for the same incident but under different rules. I think the first year we were down we were exempt (or had a larger leeway) on FFP, but that exemption goes after the first year. So the rolling 3 year brings it back into play so to speak. Maybe not anything to do with SK but a unfortunate circumstance of events due to the change in the rules. I would think any club would argue against being sanctioned twice for the same thing, although Luton got shafted twice for the same thing I think, and as for the first year think that also could be a good argument.Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PMQuote from: Andy S on December 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PMCold be true rumour is we had or were very close to breaching the threshold if the rules had t changed. Now it's a rolling 3 years we are still borderline but would be incredibly hard to punish us for the same year twice. Ross's fee keeps us under this last year I believe
I have a funny feeling that it will be loans only during this window to keep in line with FFP.
Based on ins and outs this year I can't believe we're near breaching it... if we're anywhere near then it will be just because the chairman has been too tight to pay the part he's committed to contribute. But one thing I did hear on here the other day is, well the gist of it was, the current 3 yr period include the 2014/15 season where we breached the rules, so somewhere in the two seasons since we have to make that up or we get sanctioned again
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 29, 2016, 11:30:29 PM
Brentford turn down Reading's bid for Hogan.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 29, 2016, 11:30:29 PM
Brentford turn down Reading's bid for Hogan.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 30, 2016, 10:24:31 AM
I suppose it was only a matter of time before this one came up, he did well when with them before so could be true, I like Matt so if true I wish him well. COYW
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
Bristol City are interested in signing Fulham striker Matt Smith. #ffc #BristolCity
Quote from: Statto on December 28, 2016, 12:48:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PMQuote from: Andy S on December 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PMCold be true rumour is we had or were very close to breaching the threshold if the rules had t changed. Now it's a rolling 3 years we are still borderline but would be incredibly hard to punish us for the same year twice. Ross's fee keeps us under this last year I believe
I have a funny feeling that it will be loans only during this window to keep in line with FFP.
Based on ins and outs this year I can't believe we're near breaching it... if we're anywhere near then it will be just because the chairman has been too tight to pay the part he's committed to contribute. But one thing I did hear on here the other day is, well the gist of it was, the current 3 yr period include the 2014/15 season where we breached the rules, so somewhere in the two seasons since we have to make that up or we get sanctioned again
Quote from: FPT on December 31, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
Lewis Grabban (one of my top picks for the Fulham striking position) is left out of the Bournemouth 18 at Swansea.
On Bogle: not heard anything concrete for a while - starts for Grimsby in their game today.
Jay Simpson (who we've been linked with more than once in the past 18 months I think) has handed in a transfer request at Leyton Orient. Not been linked with him for a while but perhaps something to keep an eye on with Matt Smith's future in question.
Quote from: Statto on December 31, 2016, 05:22:01 PMshelled out 18mil? id be surprised if we didnt actually make a small profit in the summer window.Quote from: Roberty on December 31, 2016, 03:53:31 PMQuote from: Statto on December 28, 2016, 12:48:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PMQuote from: Andy S on December 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PMCold be true rumour is we had or were very close to breaching the threshold if the rules had t changed. Now it's a rolling 3 years we are still borderline but would be incredibly hard to punish us for the same year twice. Ross's fee keeps us under this last year I believe
I have a funny feeling that it will be loans only during this window to keep in line with FFP.
Based on ins and outs this year I can't believe we're near breaching it... if we're anywhere near then it will be just because the chairman has been too tight to pay the part he's committed to contribute. But one thing I did hear on here the other day is, well the gist of it was, the current 3 yr period include the 2014/15 season where we breached the rules, so somewhere in the two seasons since we have to make that up or we get sanctioned again
I thought it would be clear by now that the FFP rules are in place to stop wealthy owners from bankrolling their clubs losses, beyond a stipulated limit.
So we can make an operating lose unto the permitted amount but if Khan puts more money into the club than that, to finance a larger operating loss, we will be sanctioned.
So he can shell up the amount we still have in hand and that is it.
I would imagine someone is trying to assess the risk of spending more to wave goodbye to the Championship verses the penalty if we don't make it out of this division. Given the momentum we have now it might be seen as an opportunity to go for broke.
here we go again. the "stipulated limit" comprises two amounts mate, permitted losses plus a permitted chairman's contribution. our permitted losses for the 3 yrs up to and including this one would be £11m i believe, and the chairman's permitted contribution for the same period an additional £18m. so quote a big difference. and the point i'm making now (as it was all summer when we had this argument) is has he "shelled-out" that £18m.
Quote from: Statto on December 31, 2016, 05:22:01 PMQuote from: Roberty on December 31, 2016, 03:53:31 PMQuote from: Statto on December 28, 2016, 12:48:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PMQuote from: Andy S on December 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PMCold be true rumour is we had or were very close to breaching the threshold if the rules had t changed. Now it's a rolling 3 years we are still borderline but would be incredibly hard to punish us for the same year twice. Ross's fee keeps us under this last year I believe
I have a funny feeling that it will be loans only during this window to keep in line with FFP.
Based on ins and outs this year I can't believe we're near breaching it... if we're anywhere near then it will be just because the chairman has been too tight to pay the part he's committed to contribute. But one thing I did hear on here the other day is, well the gist of it was, the current 3 yr period include the 2014/15 season where we breached the rules, so somewhere in the two seasons since we have to make that up or we get sanctioned again
I thought it would be clear by now that the FFP rules are in place to stop wealthy owners from bankrolling their clubs losses, beyond a stipulated limit.
So we can make an operating lose unto the permitted amount but if Khan puts more money into the club than that, to finance a larger operating loss, we will be sanctioned.
So he can shell up the amount we still have in hand and that is it.
I would imagine someone is trying to assess the risk of spending more to wave goodbye to the Championship verses the penalty if we don't make it out of this division. Given the momentum we have now it might be seen as an opportunity to go for broke.
here we go again. the "stipulated limit" comprises two amounts mate, permitted losses plus a permitted chairman's contribution. our permitted losses for the 3 yrs up to and including this one would be £11m i believe, and the chairman's permitted contribution for the same period an additional £18m. so quote a big difference. and the point i'm making now (as it was all summer when we had this argument) is has he "shelled-out" that £18m.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 01, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
Few little rumours floating about regarding Mitrovic at Newcastle
Quote from: @jolslover on January 01, 2017, 02:43:32 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 01, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
Few little rumours floating about regarding Mitrovic at Newcastle
This would be the dream, However suspect if he left Newcastle it would be a premier league club.
Quote from: snarks on January 01, 2017, 03:49:04 PMThis makes sense, he is getting no game time with us. Unfair to keep him here doing nothing. Hopefully he will get plenty of games and come back a sharper player.
Sky just said jozabed to leganes in la liga on loan for the rest of the season
Quote from: @jolslover on January 01, 2017, 02:43:32 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 01, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
Few little rumours floating about regarding Mitrovic at Newcastle
This would be the dream, However suspect if he left Newcastle it would be a premier league club.
Quote from: snarks on January 01, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
Sky just said jozabed to leganes in la liga on loan for the rest of the season
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 01, 2017, 04:10:27 PMhe isn't is he. Gone in the summer I'd imagine. Shame really thought he had something about himQuote from: snarks on January 01, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
Sky just said jozabed to leganes in la liga on loan for the rest of the season
And how is he supposed to acclimate to life in England and English football in Leganes???
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 01, 2017, 04:06:36 PM
What?
12 goals in 48 games,want be any in premier after him...And not us either I hope.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 01, 2017, 04:12:17 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 01, 2017, 04:10:27 PMhe isn't is he. Gone in the summer I'd imagine. Shame really thought he had something about himQuote from: snarks on January 01, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
Sky just said jozabed to leganes in la liga on loan for the rest of the season
And how is he supposed to acclimate to life in England and English football in Leganes???
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 01, 2017, 04:06:36 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 01, 2017, 02:43:32 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 01, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
Few little rumours floating about regarding Mitrovic at Newcastle
This would be the dream, However suspect if he left Newcastle it would be a premier league club.
What?
12 goals in 48 games,want be any in premier after him...And not us either I hope.
Quote from: SWAD on January 01, 2017, 05:19:20 PM
I wonder if a swap deal would develop out of the Martin situation. If were going to play Martin's game, and Khan's aptitude for business, I could only see us allowing Martin's return if not only Derby repay the Loan fee (at least) but provide a replacement. Realistically that player would be Vydra. He's not 'like for like' and I'd say maybe not as effective as Martin, but he saw a great year under Jokanovic at Watford. Would anybody take Vydra? I'd rather have us try to find a replacement for Martin if he's not going to play for us, which seems to be the inevitable future, and this way we can at least somewhat fill that void. Letting Martin doddle around the U-23's as punishment just seems unproductive to me.
Quote from: snarks on January 01, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
Sky just said jozabed to leganes in la liga on loan for the rest of the season
Quote from: @jolslover on January 01, 2017, 05:30:48 PMQuote from: snarks on January 01, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
Sky just said jozabed to leganes in la liga on loan for the rest of the season
Whereabouts have you seen this? Is there a link to it?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 01, 2017, 05:44:48 PM
With a bit of luck will stay out there,money wasted on panic buys,hopefully we will recover some
of the 7 million for him and Kebano.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 01, 2017, 09:54:50 PM
SSN just said 'Jokanovic wants a forward, a winger, a midfielder and a dominant centre-back this month'
Quote from: @jolslover on January 01, 2017, 09:54:50 PM
SSN just said 'Jokanovic wants a forward, a winger, a midfielder and a dominant centre-back this month'
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 01, 2017, 10:48:10 PMI want to hear it from Mr Khan.... Then I would be v. pleased :)
This is the kind of statement I want to hear. ⚽️
Quote from: Tonywa on January 01, 2017, 11:26:44 PM
I desperately want Scarlett Johanesson - doesn't mean I'm going to get her ;-)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 01, 2017, 11:33:59 PMI've heard that she is hard work!!Quote from: Tonywa on January 01, 2017, 11:26:44 PM
I desperately want Scarlett Johanesson - doesn't mean I'm going to get her ;-)
You will have to queue up like the rest of us.
Quote from: Tonywa on January 01, 2017, 11:26:44 PMThere's only one S. Johansen I want.
I desperately want Scarlett Johanesson - doesn't mean I'm going to get her ;-)
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 01, 2017, 11:36:55 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 01, 2017, 11:33:59 PMI've heard that she is hard work!!Quote from: Tonywa on January 01, 2017, 11:26:44 PM
I desperately want Scarlett Johanesson - doesn't mean I'm going to get her ;-)
You will have to queue up like the rest of us.
Be careful what you wish for ;)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 01, 2017, 11:41:54 PMYes, I've always seen you as the 'Hands-Free' type WM.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 01, 2017, 11:36:55 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 01, 2017, 11:33:59 PMI've heard that she is hard work!!Quote from: Tonywa on January 01, 2017, 11:26:44 PM
I desperately want Scarlett Johanesson - doesn't mean I'm going to get her ;-)
You will have to queue up like the rest of us.
Be careful what you wish for ;)
I don't mind her doing all the work.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 01, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
Tell Derby to swap Vydra for Martin or f$ck off
Sign Mitrovic on loan
Sign Dicko for 2m
Not gonna be popular but I'd take Cameron Jerome as one of the 3. Mitrovic, Jerome and Vydra is better than Martin or no striker which is our current situation.....or you could say currently just no striker
Quote from: SWAD on January 02, 2017, 12:30:41 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 01, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
Tell Derby to swap Vydra for Martin or f$ck off
Sign Mitrovic on loan
Sign Dicko for 2m
Not gonna be popular but I'd take Cameron Jerome as one of the 3. Mitrovic, Jerome and Vydra is better than Martin or no striker which is our current situation.....or you could say currently just no striker
I was talking to some Derby supporters who would be delighted to swap Vydra for Martin. Vydra is a skilled striker but doesn't really fit into the Derby system apparently so he hasn't really been vital this year. They seem to think it'd be a steal on their part but I would certainly take it.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 02, 2017, 12:41:35 AMLooks good. And he can take a penalty which would be useful. Maybe Slav can revive his career like he's done for JohansenQuote from: SWAD on January 02, 2017, 12:30:41 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 01, 2017, 09:20:26 PMI was talking to some Derby supporters who would be delighted to swap Vydra for Martin. Vydra is a skilled striker but doesn't really fit into the Derby system apparently so he hasn't really been vital this year. They seem to think it'd be a steal on their part but I would certainly take it.
Tell Derby to swap Vydra for Martin or f$ck off
Sign Mitrovic on loan
Sign Dicko for 2m
Not gonna be popular but I'd take Cameron Jerome as one of the 3. Mitrovic, Jerome and Vydra is better than Martin or no striker which is our current situation.....or you could say currently just no striker
Agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkg_Y_QkZkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkg_Y_QkZkY)
Thats a good video of Vydras goals for Watford. Playing under Slavisa playing similar football to the way we play now. Some of those goals are brilliant.
Quote from: Snibbo on January 02, 2017, 12:58:25 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 02, 2017, 12:41:35 AMQuote from: SWAD on January 02, 2017, 12:30:41 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 01, 2017, 09:20:26 PMLooks good. And he can take a penalty which would be useful. Maybe Slav can revive his career like he's done for Johansen
Tell Derby to swap Vydra for Martin or f$ck off
Sign Mitrovic on loan
Sign Dicko for 2m
Not gonna be popular but I'd take Cameron Jerome as one of the 3. Mitrovic, Jerome and Vydra is better than Martin or no striker which is our current situation.....or you could say currently just no striker
I was talking to some Derby supporters who would be delighted to swap Vydra for Martin. Vydra is a skilled striker but doesn't really fit into the Derby system apparently so he hasn't really been vital this year. They seem to think it'd be a steal on their part but I would certainly take it.
Agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkg_Y_QkZkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkg_Y_QkZkY)
Thats a good video of Vydras goals for Watford. Playing under Slavisa playing similar football to the way we play now. Some of those goals are brilliant.
Quote from: Alukoslover on January 02, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
I didn't see why everyone on here is calling for us to sign Mitrovic, when we a perfectly capable striker on the bench in Matt Smith, especially when you consider mitrovics temperament.
Matts a goal scorer simple as that, if we played him consistently there is no doubt that he would score 20/25 goals. #BackSmith
Quote from: @jolslover on January 02, 2017, 10:42:11 AMI thought this message should have been on the Christmas Cracker thread!!Quote from: Alukoslover on January 02, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
I didn't see why everyone on here is calling for us to sign Mitrovic, when we a perfectly capable striker on the bench in Matt Smith, especially when you consider mitrovics temperament.
Matts a goal scorer simple as that, if we played him consistently there is no doubt that he would score 20/25 goals. #BackSmith
Must be a joke surely?
Quote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on January 02, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
Since coming out of non league football , he's scored 38 times in 6-7 years, wherever he's been he averages around a goal every five games. If not a joke, I really wonder about the sanity of some fans. The guy is a target man who cant hold the ball up who has a turning circle of a double decker bus. Nice bloke, great pro-yes, solution to our problem-no.
Quote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on January 02, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
Since coming out of non league football , he's scored 38 times in 6-7 years, wherever he's been he averages around a goal every five games. If not a joke, I really wonder about the sanity of some fans. The guy is a target man who cant hold the ball up who has a turning circle of a double decker bus. Nice bloke, great pro-yes, solution to our problem-no.
Quote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on January 02, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
Since coming out of non league football , he's scored 38 times in 6-7 years, wherever he's been he averages around a goal every five games. If not a joke, I really wonder about the sanity of some fans. The guy is a target man who cant hold the ball up who has a turning circle of a double decker bus. Nice bloke, great pro-yes, solution to our problem-no.
Quote from: Whitesideup on January 02, 2017, 11:31:59 AMQuote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on January 02, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
Since coming out of non league football , he's scored 38 times in 6-7 years, wherever he's been he averages around a goal every five games. If not a joke, I really wonder about the sanity of some fans. The guy is a target man who cant hold the ball up who has a turning circle of a double decker bus. Nice bloke, great pro-yes, solution to our problem-no.
Overly harsh I think.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on January 02, 2017, 11:50:19 AMWhilst its true that on there day, most clubs can get a result against anyone in this league, I think there are about 4 levels in the division. For too many reasons to go into here, we pitched ourselves with a squad of players that hovered between level 2/3 & 4 in our last two seasons. I watched the Brentford Norwich game and I was amazed at how far ahead we were in the final 3rd as opposed to them (I was amazed but happy). We are definitely at a level 1/2 right now.Quote from: Whitesideup on January 02, 2017, 11:31:59 AMQuote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on January 02, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
Since coming out of non league football , he's scored 38 times in 6-7 years, wherever he's been he averages around a goal every five games. If not a joke, I really wonder about the sanity of some fans. The guy is a target man who cant hold the ball up who has a turning circle of a double decker bus. Nice bloke, great pro-yes, solution to our problem-no.
Overly harsh I think.
Harsh but fair I think. Matt Smith is a good bloke and a model pro as stated, but he's not good enough for the level that we're at as a team right now, let alone where we aspire to be.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
You can't score if you ain't playing.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 02, 2017, 12:50:43 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
You can't score if you ain't playing.
He also can't score when he is
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 02, 2017, 12:55:46 PMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 02, 2017, 12:50:43 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
You can't score if you ain't playing.
It's a team game, and he has proved he can score given the right opportunity. He wouldn't be in the squad if Joka thought he wasn't up to it. The whole squad has to play a part if we are to get to the playoffs.
He also can't score when he is
We may end up needing him this afternoon at some stage, so let's be gentle with him.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on January 03, 2017, 08:35:17 AM
Omar Bogle scored 2 more yesterday
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 02:35:57 PM
Nakki Wells to Norwich is being touted.
Quote from: dgnffc on January 03, 2017, 10:40:56 AMWe didn't sign Messi in the summer either, can't we go for him insteadQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 02:35:57 PM
Nakki Wells to Norwich is being touted.
Bradford City mate of mine says this is his level, doesn't think he'd make it any higher.
Would prefer us to go back in for Bogle if that's possible after we didn't sign him in the summer.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 03, 2017, 10:54:02 AMBut Bogle was "in the building" apparently. I can't answer for Messi.Quote from: dgnffc on January 03, 2017, 10:40:56 AMWe didn't sign Messi in the summer either, can't we go for him insteadQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 02:35:57 PM
Nakki Wells to Norwich is being touted.
Bradford City mate of mine says this is his level, doesn't think he'd make it any higher.
Would prefer us to go back in for Bogle if that's possible after we didn't sign him in the summer.
Quote from: dgnffc on January 03, 2017, 10:59:20 AMI can confirm that during august, messi was in a building somewhereQuote from: fulhamben on January 03, 2017, 10:54:02 AMBut Bogle was "in the building" apparently. I can't answer for Messi.Quote from: dgnffc on January 03, 2017, 10:40:56 AMWe didn't sign Messi in the summer either, can't we go for him insteadQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 02, 2017, 02:35:57 PM
Nakki Wells to Norwich is being touted.
Bradford City mate of mine says this is his level, doesn't think he'd make it any higher.
Would prefer us to go back in for Bogle if that's possible after we didn't sign him in the summer.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 03, 2017, 11:07:54 AMid take anyone at this stage
Casimir Ninga from Montpellier anyone?
Quote from: Riverside on January 03, 2017, 02:40:55 PMIf we wait till the last week to get a decent striker in then we can kiss our season goodbye. I still blame the reason on Y's being out of touch on the fact it took us so long to get Martin in and then waste another 6 games getting him up to speed
I have to admit I am not really looking at this much because
1) the important deal or deals will be done in the last week of the window
2) they will be none of the players we are talking about
How many of last windows 14 did we identify more than a week from the actual signing - or come to think of it within 72 hours !!
Quote from: Statto on January 03, 2017, 07:22:21 PMproven at this level, would be cheap allowing us to also go for someone else.Quote from: mkras99 on January 03, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL 2m2 minutes ago
Leeds United are leading Fulham in the race to sign out-of-favour Middlesbrough striker David Nugent.
hopefully we will lose that race
Quote from: Statto on January 03, 2017, 11:22:26 PMI might well say that if I knew the figures. But as i have said, I'll take him but would not want him as the only striker coming in.Quote from: MJG on January 03, 2017, 07:33:49 PMQuote from: Statto on January 03, 2017, 07:22:21 PMproven at this level, would be cheap allowing us to also go for someone else.Quote from: mkras99 on January 03, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL 2m2 minutes ago
Leeds United are leading Fulham in the race to sign out-of-favour Middlesbrough striker David Nugent.
hopefully we will lose that race
the thing is if this happened, i can imagine in a few weeks i'll be one of those saying come on, why haven't we signed anyone else, we hardly spent anything on nugent, and you'll be the first to tell me we've paid him a £800k signing on fee and £40k p/w
Quote from: AnEssexFan on January 04, 2017, 09:33:08 AM
I'd rather sign Bamford than Nugent, and I'd also like to see us go after Rhodes. If we're serious about making a push for the play offs why settle for Nugent when the other two appear to be available?
Quote from: AnEssexFan on January 04, 2017, 09:33:08 AM
I'd rather sign Bamford than Nugent, and I'd also like to see us go after Rhodes. If we're serious about making a push for the play offs why settle for Nugent when the other two appear to be available?
Quote from: Ordar on January 04, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
Are Derby after everyone?
Quote from: Hoppus on January 04, 2017, 12:14:43 PMHe knows where the goal is, has scored regulaly at every level he has played at. He is decent but a risky choice if our only striker coming in as never played this high up before, personally I think he will do well
/footballmanics.com/ on Twitter:
Grimsby Town striker Omar Bogle has picked #Fulham as his next destination, according to reports. #Grimsby #GTFC #FFC #Bogle
How good is he?
Quote from: Hoppus on January 04, 2017, 12:14:43 PM
/footballmanics.com/ on Twitter:
Grimsby Town striker Omar Bogle has picked #Fulham as his next destination, according to reports. #Grimsby #GTFC #FFC #Bogle
Quote from: Hoppus on January 04, 2017, 12:14:43 PM
/footballmanics.com/ on Twitter:
Grimsby Town striker Omar Bogle has picked #Fulham as his next destination, according to reports. #Grimsby #GTFC #FFC #Bogle
How good is he?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
Just been linked with Camara from Derby. http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/)
Could use Martin as part of the deal.
Mate whos a Derby fan says hes rapid, Apparently very quick. Always played LW for them.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
Just been linked with Camara from Derby. http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/)
Could use Martin as part of the deal.
Mate whos a Derby fan says hes rapid, Apparently very quick. Always played LW for them.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 04, 2017, 12:34:14 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 04, 2017, 12:14:43 PMHe knows where the goal is, has scored regulaly at every level he has played at. He is decent but a risky choice if our only striker coming in as never played this high up before, personally I think he will do well
/footballmanics.com/ on Twitter:
Grimsby Town striker Omar Bogle has picked #Fulham as his next destination, according to reports. #Grimsby #GTFC #FFC #Bogle
How good is he?
Quote from: mkras99 on January 04, 2017, 04:38:16 PMVery poor news if this were to happen
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL 36s37 seconds ago
Several Premier League and Championship clubs have expressed an interest in signing Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 04, 2017, 04:42:25 PMQuote from: mkras99 on January 04, 2017, 04:38:16 PMVery poor news if this were to happen
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL 36s37 seconds ago
Several Premier League and Championship clubs have expressed an interest in signing Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney.
Quote from: Nathan_ffc on January 04, 2017, 04:50:12 PM
I know its a long shot but i'd love a loan move with a view of permanent move for connor wickham. He'd suit our play perfectly. Not prolific i know, but anyone who is would come at a huge cost.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
Just been linked with Camara from Derby. http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/)
Could use Martin as part of the deal.
Mate whos a Derby fan says hes rapid, Apparently very quick. Always played LW for them.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 03:32:06 PM
Sunderland turn down 6million bid for Defoe from W Ham,who say they will up their bid.
Apparently Defoe wants to come back ho London.
Quote from: mkras99 on January 04, 2017, 04:38:16 PM
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL 36s37 seconds ago
Several Premier League and Championship clubs have expressed an interest in signing Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney.
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 04, 2017, 04:24:07 PMOr the sitter he missed at the Bridge near the end of the match.Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
Just been linked with Camara from Derby. http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-join-race-for-camara/)
Could use Martin as part of the deal.
Mate whos a Derby fan says hes rapid, Apparently very quick. Always played LW for them.
Will never forget when he scored against Man City to start the great escape for us
Quote from: love4ffc on January 04, 2017, 06:21:25 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling we are only targeting average players. Perhaps in hope that Joka can get more out of them than most coaches?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 06:37:13 PMDon't agree with this - Ross is a goal scorer end of.
No Thanks, Would not have Ross back. Great player but doesnt fit our system as cant play up top by himself
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
No Thanks, Would not have Ross back. Great player but doesnt fit our system as cant play up top by himself
Quote from: Statto on January 04, 2017, 06:48:34 PMI think your Crystal Ball is worth more than Stat Boy's computer programme.
since we are talking about martin, mccormack and another derby reject camara it seems an appropriate moment to repeat this from the last silly season transfer threadQuote from: Statto on August 28, 2016, 11:49:34 AM
Please not Martin.
The complaints I heard most frequently about McCormack were that he was fat, slow (this is given as the reason he's never played in the premiership) and had a bad attitude. At least two of which criticisms are probably untrue. But if McCormack was fat, slow and had a bad attitude, Martin is surely fatter, slower and has an even worse attitude.
Add to that he's not as prolific as McCormack, neither for goals nor assists (although admittedly not far off).
He's an ugly character, not a "Fulham" man.
I can't see how he fits our current style of play. We've signed a load of cultured, fast, technical players. Martin is the opposite of that.
I also don't want Derby's rejects in our first team. If they get Kodja and Vydra and we get Martin it will be humiliating.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
No Thanks, Would not have Ross back. Great player but doesnt fit our system as cant play up top by himself
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 07:46:05 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
No Thanks, Would not have Ross back. Great player but doesnt fit our system as cant play up top by himself
So you'd rather have a Derby reject like Camara who looks great on you tube.
Jols you need to get over this illness you have(I'm worried about you) where you think all exotic named foreigners are great players..lol
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 04, 2017, 07:55:04 PMMince, where is your I. Want a Striker thread??
So you'd rather have a Derby reject like Camara who looks great on you tube.
Jols you need to get over this illness you have(I'm worried about you) where you think all exotic named foreigners are great players..lol
Quote from: f321ffc on January 04, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
BREAKING: ROSS MCCORMACK will return to Fulham for a discounted 7mil + addons subject to total goals scored. #FFC... (link: http://dlvr.it/N2J78T (http://dlvr.it/N2J78T))
Quote from: mkras99 on January 04, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
Transfer Centre 9 @TransferCentre9 8m8 minutes ago
Fulham and Nottingham Forest have expressed an interest in Bristol Rovers striker Matty Taylor. #ffc #nffc #brfc
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 04, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
I really like Ross as goal scorer and personally would welcome him back...
Unfortunately, it may be a mistake in that there really are a lot, of so called supporters, who would boo his every touch! It would make for a terrible atmosphere and if someone close did it I would have to inform them of their need to eck orf! As I would with anyone who wears the shirt and is booed... I hate it!
Quote from: love4ffc on January 04, 2017, 06:21:25 PMWith all due respect Mr Love, until we have made an acquisition... or failed to (a few weeks down the line), we surely can't say? I'm sure your inklings are based on years of experience, however my own inklings are not in tune.
Does anyone else get the feeling we are only targeting average players. Perhaps in hope that Joka can get more out of them than most coaches?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 09:20:39 PMAlso, Sheff Utds eex Leeds striker Billy Sharp!! Scoring for fun ATM!! 31 now but worth £1m?Quote from: mkras99 on January 04, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
Transfer Centre 9 @TransferCentre9 8m8 minutes ago
Fulham and Nottingham Forest have expressed an interest in Bristol Rovers striker Matty Taylor. #ffc #nffc #brfc
Surprised he hasn't been mentioned before,the boy knows where the goals are.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
(Sorry if came across blunt just giving my opinion). Like the suggestions though its good discussion!
Quote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PMYes, I was very upset by the tone of your reply. Luckily my New Years Resolution is to stop being so sensitive! I blame Chris Martin!
(Sorry if came across blunt just giving my opinion). Like the suggestions though its good discussion!
Quote from: f321ffc on January 04, 2017, 07:08:21 PM
Double League @LigaBBVASerieA
#Championship sides #Brighton and #Fulham are linked with a move for #Udinese centre-back Thomas Heurtaux.#bhafc #ffc #transfers
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 04, 2017, 10:49:45 PM
Watford bid 6 mil for hogan apparently
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 10:45:28 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
(Sorry if came across blunt just giving my opinion). Like the suggestions though its good discussion!
Kasapoutous Philopitrous is available from Turkish league 3...lol
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 10:45:28 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
(Sorry if came across blunt just giving my opinion). Like the suggestions though its good discussion!
Kasapoutous Philopitrous is available from Turkish league 3...lol
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 04, 2017, 10:56:44 PM
Sorry but didn't McCormack down tools like Martin to get a better contract and then leave after two years of a four year contract.
Also remember the embarrassing failure of the return of Dempsey.
Let's not go back. We need to look forward with a proper striker(s) who will get on the end of the crosses from Fredericks and Malone and through passes from midfield, ideally someone good enough or at least with the potential to be with us in the PL or an experienced Championship striker who will bridge the gap until we can get that top player.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 04, 2017, 11:05:12 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 10:45:28 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
(Sorry if came across blunt just giving my opinion). Like the suggestions though its good discussion!
Kasapoutous Philopitrous is available from Turkish league 3...lolQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 04, 2017, 10:45:28 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 04, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
(Sorry if came across blunt just giving my opinion). Like the suggestions though its good discussion!
Kasapoutous Philopitrous is available from Turkish league 3...lol
Out of the question Sir, the club couldn't fit his name on the back of the program, and the fans could never make up a song that would rhyme with his name, plus Scrabble would not allow it.
Quote from: MJG on January 04, 2017, 07:38:52 PMMccontract made his bed and I'm happy to watch him stay in it, we can do better then him, but if we get him for 3 or 4 million It would be hard not to take him
If Ross comes back watch Cairney go back into his shell. Ross is all about me me me
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 04, 2017, 11:53:15 PM
Kasapoutous Philopitrous is available from Turkish league 3...lol
Quote from: Wearethewhites on January 04, 2017, 11:23:28 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 04, 2017, 10:56:44 PM
Sorry but didn't McCormack down tools like Martin to get a better contract and then leave after two years of a four year contract.
Also remember the embarrassing failure of the return of Dempsey.
Let's not go back. We need to look forward with a proper striker(s) who will get on the end of the crosses from Fredericks and Malone and through passes from midfield, ideally someone good enough or at least with the potential to be with us in the PL or an experienced Championship striker who will bridge the gap until we can get that top player.
Not 100% true no, downed tools to get his contract extension yes, but to sell him, was purely a business decision by the Club, and a good one at that, albeit they screwed up getting a replacement.
When Jokanovic flew out to Stockholm, and everyone put 2 and 2 together, thinking he was there to talk with Delaney, he wasn't, he actually met with Kahn, who was out there on Jags business.
It was then decided to sell Ross to a) relive pressure on FFP and to b) make funds available for rebuilding the squad.
In then end, I don't think Ross wanted to leave, but it came back to bite him, and I don't think Jokanovic wanted to lose him.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 05, 2017, 12:44:08 AM
MCCormack did not have to leave. He could have stayed and seen out his four year contract. But his history says he moves on regularly. We will see what happens this window.
Quote from: Roberty on January 05, 2017, 05:47:46 AMGood point. Hence he's still plying his trade with mid-table Championship clubsQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 05, 2017, 12:44:08 AM
MCCormack did not have to leave. He could have stayed and seen out his four year contract. But his history says he moves on regularly. We will see what happens this window.
History also shows that none of the teams he's played for ever won anything or got promoted
Quote from: river phoenix on January 05, 2017, 07:47:55 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/)
COMINGS AND GOINGS New Bhoy Kouassi Eboue's arrival at Celtic could signal the end for Hoops midfielder Nir Bitton with Fulham in the hunt for his signature
EXCLUSIVE
BY DAVID FRIEL 4th January 2017, 10:12 pm
KOUASSI EBOUE'S arrival at Celtic is set to signal the END of Nir Bitton's Hoops career.
SunSport understands the Israeli midfielder could even be offloaded this month.
Fulham are one of several English clubs monitoring Bitton's situation and Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers could even agree to a £2million sale in the next few weeks as he shakes up his midfield options.
Bitton, 25, has started just one game since October 23 after falling down the pecking order.
Stuart Armstrong's emergence next to skipper Scott Brown has limited his chances.
Bitton was also overlooked for Callum McGregor in Saturday's Old Firm clash at Ibrox.
Eboue's signing is another blow to the Israeli international's hopes of regaining his place — with the Ivorian earmarked for a central role.
And Rodgers also hopes to add ANOTHER midfielder to his squad before the end of the transfer window.
Bitton will not be content to sit on the bench long-term and is likely to be open to a move.
The 19-times capped midfielder has got no shortage of admirers down south, including Fulham.
Craven Cottage gaffer Slavisa Jokanovic watched the midfielder when scouting Stefan Johansen ahead of his £2m move from Celtic last summer.
Bitton is also close friends with the Norwegian midfielder and the prospect of reuniting in London is likely to appeal.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 05, 2017, 07:52:23 AMQuote from: river phoenix on January 05, 2017, 07:47:55 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/)
COMINGS AND GOINGS New Bhoy Kouassi Eboue's arrival at Celtic could signal the end for Hoops midfielder Nir Bitton with Fulham in the hunt for his signature
EXCLUSIVE
BY DAVID FRIEL 4th January 2017, 10:12 pm
KOUASSI EBOUE'S arrival at Celtic is set to signal the END of Nir Bitton's Hoops career.
SunSport understands the Israeli midfielder could even be offloaded this month.
Fulham are one of several English clubs monitoring Bitton's situation and Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers could even agree to a £2million sale in the next few weeks as he shakes up his midfield options.
Bitton, 25, has started just one game since October 23 after falling down the pecking order.
Stuart Armstrong's emergence next to skipper Scott Brown has limited his chances.
Bitton was also overlooked for Callum McGregor in Saturday's Old Firm clash at Ibrox.
Eboue's signing is another blow to the Israeli international's hopes of regaining his place — with the Ivorian earmarked for a central role.
And Rodgers also hopes to add ANOTHER midfielder to his squad before the end of the transfer window.
Bitton will not be content to sit on the bench long-term and is likely to be open to a move.
The 19-times capped midfielder has got no shortage of admirers down south, including Fulham.
Craven Cottage gaffer Slavisa Jokanovic watched the midfielder when scouting Stefan Johansen ahead of his £2m move from Celtic last summer.
Bitton is also close friends with the Norwegian midfielder and the prospect of reuniting in London is likely to appeal.
I would love Nir Bitton but I don't know who'd drop out of the midfield.
Quote from: dgnffc on January 05, 2017, 11:48:14 AM
Kavanagh on loan to Hartlepool according to BBC transfers page
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 05, 2017, 07:52:23 AMQuote from: river phoenix on January 05, 2017, 07:47:55 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/)
COMINGS AND GOINGS New Bhoy Kouassi Eboue's arrival at Celtic could signal the end for Hoops midfielder Nir Bitton with Fulham in the hunt for his signature
EXCLUSIVE
BY DAVID FRIEL 4th January 2017, 10:12 pm
KOUASSI EBOUE'S arrival at Celtic is set to signal the END of Nir Bitton's Hoops career.
SunSport understands the Israeli midfielder could even be offloaded this month.
Fulham are one of several English clubs monitoring Bitton's situation and Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers could even agree to a £2million sale in the next few weeks as he shakes up his midfield options.
Bitton, 25, has started just one game since October 23 after falling down the pecking order.
Stuart Armstrong's emergence next to skipper Scott Brown has limited his chances.
Bitton was also overlooked for Callum McGregor in Saturday's Old Firm clash at Ibrox.
Eboue's signing is another blow to the Israeli international's hopes of regaining his place — with the Ivorian earmarked for a central role.
And Rodgers also hopes to add ANOTHER midfielder to his squad before the end of the transfer window.
Bitton will not be content to sit on the bench long-term and is likely to be open to a move.
The 19-times capped midfielder has got no shortage of admirers down south, including Fulham.
Craven Cottage gaffer Slavisa Jokanovic watched the midfielder when scouting Stefan Johansen ahead of his £2m move from Celtic last summer.
Bitton is also close friends with the Norwegian midfielder and the prospect of reuniting in London is likely to appeal.
I would love Nir Bitton but I don't know who'd drop out of the midfield.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 05, 2017, 12:56:41 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 05, 2017, 07:52:23 AMQuote from: river phoenix on January 05, 2017, 07:47:55 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/388059/new-hoops-star-kouassi-eboues-arrival-at-celtic-could-signal-the-end-for-hoops-midfielder-nir-bitton-with-fulham-in-the-hunt-for-his-signature/)
COMINGS AND GOINGS New Bhoy Kouassi Eboue's arrival at Celtic could signal the end for Hoops midfielder Nir Bitton with Fulham in the hunt for his signature
EXCLUSIVE
BY DAVID FRIEL 4th January 2017, 10:12 pm
KOUASSI EBOUE'S arrival at Celtic is set to signal the END of Nir Bitton's Hoops career.
SunSport understands the Israeli midfielder could even be offloaded this month.
Fulham are one of several English clubs monitoring Bitton's situation and Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers could even agree to a £2million sale in the next few weeks as he shakes up his midfield options.
Bitton, 25, has started just one game since October 23 after falling down the pecking order.
Stuart Armstrong's emergence next to skipper Scott Brown has limited his chances.
Bitton was also overlooked for Callum McGregor in Saturday's Old Firm clash at Ibrox.
Eboue's signing is another blow to the Israeli international's hopes of regaining his place — with the Ivorian earmarked for a central role.
And Rodgers also hopes to add ANOTHER midfielder to his squad before the end of the transfer window.
Bitton will not be content to sit on the bench long-term and is likely to be open to a move.
The 19-times capped midfielder has got no shortage of admirers down south, including Fulham.
Craven Cottage gaffer Slavisa Jokanovic watched the midfielder when scouting Stefan Johansen ahead of his £2m move from Celtic last summer.
Bitton is also close friends with the Norwegian midfielder and the prospect of reuniting in London is likely to appeal.
I would love Nir Bitton but I don't know who'd drop out of the midfield.
Whomever he turns out being better than. Simple. And, if he's not better, then he's quality depth.
Quote from: MJG on January 05, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
Thanks to Apprentice to the Maestro for the data below.
This is a graph of all the full transfers (No loans or frees) in January 2016 to the championship
Its only one years data so I'm a little reluctant to compare it with Fulham but it shows 36% of transfers in the last week of the window. Compared to Fulhams 10 year record of 71% in the last week.
if anyone wants to look up more years to add to the data feel free to do that and send it to me.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/11b0ton.jpg)
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 05, 2017, 03:24:24 PMThanks for the clarification and quite right...who wants to do that data? ;-)Quote from: MJG on January 05, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
Thanks to Apprentice to the Maestro for the data below.
This is a graph of all the full transfers (No loans or frees) in January 2016 to the championship
Its only one years data so I'm a little reluctant to compare it with Fulham but it shows 36% of transfers in the last week of the window. Compared to Fulhams 10 year record of 71% in the last week.
if anyone wants to look up more years to add to the data feel free to do that and send it to me.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/11b0ton.jpg)
Just a bit of clarification: I did not make it clear to MJG that the data is for all four divisions so that may distort matters somewhat as transfers for players going down a level or more would be easier to complete I suspect.
Also by leaving out loans it cleans up cases like Kavanagh going down levels to Hartlepool this window but also excludes key loans like Madl to us last January.
I believe that the 71% in the last week is a consequence of being in the PL and one of the smaller clubs there. The top clubs are more attractive to players including the wages offered and their bids can meet the seller's market value so their transfers are not as complex to complete.
If someone has the patience to really clean up the data and cover several seasons then high praise to them.
Quote from: mkras99 on January 05, 2017, 03:37:08 PM
EFL Transfer News @champscout 8m8 minutes ago
Fulham are exploring the possibility of signing Norwich striker Kyle Lafferty and Crystal Palace striker Frazier Campbell.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2017, 04:32:38 PMYes it has been mentioned, in fact it's on this page 4 posts up, maybe that's why it's called the silly transfer thread.
So much on here that has sod all to do with actual transfer speculation so sorry if this has been mentioned before but latest rubbish from EPL Transfer news is that Fulham are exploring the possibility of signing Kyle Lafferty from Norwich and Frazier Cambell from Palace.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2017, 04:32:38 PMPlease stop posting messages WITHOUT a graph! We like pretty things to look at :)
So much on here that has sod all to do with actual transfer speculation so sorry if this has been mentioned before but latest rubbish from EPL Transfer news is that Fulham are exploring the possibility of signing Kyle Lafferty from Norwich and Frazier Cambell from Palace.
Quote from: Statto on January 05, 2017, 05:07:13 PM
So finally we have unequivocal, statistical proof that we are bloody slow at doing transfer business. There you go. Now please send this to Khan so he sacks Kline and The little Scottish accountant before they ruin another season
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 05, 2017, 05:57:06 PM
The only stats I am concerned with is 36 24 36.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 05, 2017, 05:57:06 PM
The only stats I am concerned with is 36 24 36.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 05, 2017, 04:45:17 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2017, 04:32:38 PMPlease stop posting messages WITHOUT a graph! We like pretty things to look at :)
So much on here that has sod all to do with actual transfer speculation so sorry if this has been mentioned before but latest rubbish from EPL Transfer news is that Fulham are exploring the possibility of signing Kyle Lafferty from Norwich and Frazier Cambell from Palace.
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on January 05, 2017, 06:30:33 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 05, 2017, 05:57:06 PM
The only stats I am concerned with is 36 24 36.
Rather an odd shape for a Woolly Mammoth?
I would have thought more 36 58 36?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 05, 2017, 06:53:18 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 05, 2017, 05:57:06 PM
The only stats I am concerned with is 36 24 36.
No stat for trunk length?? :005:
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 05, 2017, 07:09:32 PM
Bodurov never got another club after we let him go
Quote from: Statto on January 05, 2017, 07:04:58 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 05, 2017, 05:48:41 PM
Try this thought experiment: Say we got an offer for Cairney today that met our valuation. Would you expect us to sell him today? Or would you expect us to look around for a replacement and to wait to see if an even better offer came in? You seem to expect other clubs to sell to us immediately. I suggest that they are not quite that stupid. And that if you thought about it for a couple of seconds that even you may come to realise that is the reality.
Is that what we did with McCormack? Did we wait until we'd found a replacement and to see if an even better offer came in? I must have missed that. I must have missed us doing that when we sold almost an entire team last summer, all of whom, except Matilla and Bodurov, were offloaded before the season started and in almost every case, before we'd signed a replacement. The same happened the season we came down - a whole team offloaded by the end of July. But of course none of that is reality right?
Quote from: Hoppus on January 05, 2017, 09:38:01 PMIf this happens, the club's player liaison team will face a dilemma when helping him find new accommodation close to Motspur Park. Should it be Nir Bitton from Surbiton or Nir Bitton from Norbiton?
Raphael Gellar on Twitter (on a possible Nir Bitton transfer): Yes, it is very possible
I dont know much about Bitton, just seen the usual YouTube videos.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 05, 2017, 09:38:01 PM
Raphael Gellar on Twitter (on a possible Nir Bitton transfer): Yes, it is very possible
I dont know much about Bitton, just seen the usual YouTube videos.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 06, 2017, 08:51:57 AMJolslover will have a field day with that name...lol
FUlham after Ibrahim Cisse from Standard Liege according to some on Twitter, make of that what you will
Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 05, 2017, 10:18:00 PMQuote from: Statto on January 05, 2017, 07:04:58 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 05, 2017, 05:48:41 PM
Try this thought experiment: Say we got an offer for Cairney today that met our valuation. Would you expect us to sell him today? Or would you expect us to look around for a replacement and to wait to see if an even better offer came in? You seem to expect other clubs to sell to us immediately. I suggest that they are not quite that stupid. And that if you thought about it for a couple of seconds that even you may come to realise that is the reality.
Is that what we did with McCormack? Did we wait until we'd found a replacement and to see if an even better offer came in? I must have missed that. I must have missed us doing that when we sold almost an entire team last summer, all of whom, except Matilla and Bodurov, were offloaded before the season started and in almost every case, before we'd signed a replacement. The same happened the season we came down - a whole team offloaded by the end of July. But of course none of that is reality right?
I emphasised that point because you seem to deny that there could be any reason why Fulham can't buy who they want at the price they want when they want with a simple click of their fingers.
But, of course, there are other factors and considerations such as getting players off the books. I am sure that you would have been first on here saying we need a major clearout on both those occasions even if neither of us would agree with the detail. Most of those who left went for very little or for free. That's what happens in the early part of the window.
And who knows what happened with McCormack. Maybe he was restive and was determined to move on as he regularly is and we were happy to get him out of the building. Maybe, as someone said, getting McCormack's fee at that time helped us with FFP.
The reality still is that most of the significant transfers happen late in the window and mainly on the last day. That Fulham sign key players then and not before is a feature of the system, not an obvious failing of the club.
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 10:19:37 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
You are correct Colin,but the other side of the coin is you dilly dally like we did in the last window and IMO panic buy a bit with the likes of Jozabed and the Martin loan at last minute,when I believe we had the chance to sign permanent striker..
I say get in while the Iron is hot before the rest do...
Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 10:19:37 AMJozabed was not a panic last minute buy. It may not have worked out but SJ wanted him for a while.Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
You are correct Colin,but the other side of the coin is you dilly dally like we did in the last window and IMO panic buy a bit with the likes of Jozabed and the Martin loan at last minute,when I believe we had the chance to sign permanent striker..
I say get in while the Iron is hot before the rest do...
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 11:57:14 AMAs far as I know the Martin deal wasnt a panic buy either, it was delayed as Derby wanted to sign replacements. In fact we wante dit as a permanent deal earlier in the window and wa sonly a loan because of the time remaining. I could be wroing but thats how it was said to meQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 10:19:37 AMJozabed was not a panic last minute buy. It may not have worked out but SJ wanted him for a while.Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
You are correct Colin,but the other side of the coin is you dilly dally like we did in the last window and IMO panic buy a bit with the likes of Jozabed and the Martin loan at last minute,when I believe we had the chance to sign permanent striker..
I say get in while the Iron is hot before the rest do...
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 06, 2017, 12:08:19 PMI said at the time the loan deal was because of paper work issues.... Quicker to do that than a full contract transfer.... But was brushed off as us just being tight again.Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 11:57:14 AMAs far as I know the Martin deal wasnt a panic buy either, it was delayed as Derby wanted to sign replacements. In fact we wante dit as a permanent deal earlier in the window and wa sonly a loan because of the time remaining. I could be wroing but thats how it was said to meQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 10:19:37 AMJozabed was not a panic last minute buy. It may not have worked out but SJ wanted him for a while.Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
You are correct Colin,but the other side of the coin is you dilly dally like we did in the last window and IMO panic buy a bit with the likes of Jozabed and the Martin loan at last minute,when I believe we had the chance to sign permanent striker..
I say get in while the Iron is hot before the rest do...
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:17:44 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 06, 2017, 12:08:19 PMI said at the time the loan deal was because of paper work issues.... Quicker to do that than a full contract transfer.... But was brushed off as us just being tight again.Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 11:57:14 AMAs far as I know the Martin deal wasnt a panic buy either, it was delayed as Derby wanted to sign replacements. In fact we wante dit as a permanent deal earlier in the window and wa sonly a loan because of the time remaining. I could be wroing but thats how it was said to meQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 10:19:37 AMJozabed was not a panic last minute buy. It may not have worked out but SJ wanted him for a while.Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
You are correct Colin,but the other side of the coin is you dilly dally like we did in the last window and IMO panic buy a bit with the likes of Jozabed and the Martin loan at last minute,when I believe we had the chance to sign permanent striker..
I say get in while the Iron is hot before the rest do...
Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:23:39 PMAgain as I was told, w ehave an option to pay the balance of the 9 million either in Jan or June, contractual terms are agreed.Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:17:44 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 06, 2017, 12:08:19 PMI said at the time the loan deal was because of paper work issues.... Quicker to do that than a full contract transfer.... But was brushed off as us just being tight again.Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 11:57:14 AMAs far as I know the Martin deal wasnt a panic buy either, it was delayed as Derby wanted to sign replacements. In fact we wante dit as a permanent deal earlier in the window and wa sonly a loan because of the time remaining. I could be wroing but thats how it was said to meQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 10:19:37 AMJozabed was not a panic last minute buy. It may not have worked out but SJ wanted him for a while.Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 10:09:48 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 06, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Calm down boys it's only the 6 th of January. We all want early signings but has any club signed players yet ? The club might just surprise us. If we get a striker in before Blackburn that would show the that even the powers behind the scenes are doing a good job would it not ?
Yes agree
You are correct Colin,but the other side of the coin is you dilly dally like we did in the last window and IMO panic buy a bit with the likes of Jozabed and the Martin loan at last minute,when I believe we had the chance to sign permanent striker..
I say get in while the Iron is hot before the rest do...
And so if we were prepared to sign Martin permanently in the summer (except for paperwork issues) then presumably we would have some basis for a permanent signing in January and that may explain a little more about Martin's mystery injury.... perhaps?
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 06, 2017, 12:39:50 PMWhen you sign 14 players not all are going to work out.
Have we been caught out even more than we think re the Chris Martin debacle ? If as has been said many times before this latest episode that the permanent deal to sign him just a matter of time, Fulham would only be looking for a backup and planned to invest the main striker budget to Martins acquisition. Now his loan let alone Permanent signing is in question we are behind the 8 ball in our identification of a number 1 striker. It has been said that Martin may be reacting to Fulham having changed their minds, i.e. It's Fulham who now only want to maintain the loan on not sign him permanently.
Talk about a soap opera.
Anyway, at the end of the day we need a striker capable of leading the line, we know this is not Matt Smith, so one can see that recruiting a loan as our only real option was very poor, even though the summer transfer dealings were good in many ways, this is now costing us. Any new player could well need time to integrate, meanwhile we continue to drop points and let see the possibility of the playoffs get less and less.
Siggurdson would also appear to be less than we hoped for as with Button and Jozabed a total disaster.
This shows that even with a pretty good transfer window as it was last time out, there was still a lot we got wrong. It's easy in hindsite and I know its perfectly normal to not get all transfers right. The problem is, a striker was the most bleeding obvious area we needed to strengthen and what has now happened means we got this horribly wrong. Lessons need to be learned, a lot has improved and this season is a positive experience but to be in the top 3 Fulham have to do better.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
I don't disagree with you but the point I was trying to make is the one called strategy for success rather than fear of failure. Yes, the buying in the summer was largely successful in spite of many comments in these forums to the contrary. I am one of those who backed SJ from the start because I understood what he wanted to do, and I don't believe the Club did all it could do for SJ during the last window. Sure some players will not want to come here but you can suss that pretty darned quickly with the right questions and plan your acquisitions much more carefully. That is a strategy that has a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C. I want the Club to back SJ one hundred percent with the only limit being the need to keep within FFP.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 12:52:19 PMJozabad is excatly that really, a managers choice. So from my pov and knowledge the one player we backed our manager with has not worked.Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
I don't disagree with you but the point I was trying to make is the one called strategy for success rather than fear of failure. Yes, the buying in the summer was largely successful in spite of many comments in these forums to the contrary. I am one of those who backed SJ from the start because I understood what he wanted to do, and I don't believe the Club did all it could do for SJ during the last window. Sure some players will not want to come here but you can suss that pretty darned quickly with the right questions and plan your acquisitions much more carefully. That is a strategy that has a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C. I want the Club to back SJ one hundred percent with the only limit being the need to keep within FFP.
I agree.
I am sure that various structures involving Directors of Football, statistical analysts and coaches can work but my suspicion is that they are going to fail more often than not.
If you need a DoF and analyst to be given as much the same weight as the manager in choosing players to moderate his choices then you have the wrong manager, either a mad one like Magath or an inexperienced one like Symons.
I am much more confident with a good manager in charge Jokanovic that our transfer policy will be more focussed and our selections more successful (but I still expect, like most other transfers to other clubs, the deals to be completed late in the window).
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:56:35 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 12:52:19 PMJozabad is excatly that really, a managers choice. So from my pov and knowledge the one player we backed our manager with has not worked.Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
I don't disagree with you but the point I was trying to make is the one called strategy for success rather than fear of failure. Yes, the buying in the summer was largely successful in spite of many comments in these forums to the contrary. I am one of those who backed SJ from the start because I understood what he wanted to do, and I don't believe the Club did all it could do for SJ during the last window. Sure some players will not want to come here but you can suss that pretty darned quickly with the right questions and plan your acquisitions much more carefully. That is a strategy that has a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C. I want the Club to back SJ one hundred percent with the only limit being the need to keep within FFP.
I agree.
I am sure that various structures involving Directors of Football, statistical analysts and coaches can work but my suspicion is that they are going to fail more often than not.
If you need a DoF and analyst to be given as much the same weight as the manager in choosing players to moderate his choices then you have the wrong manager, either a mad one like Magath or an inexperienced one like Symons.
I am much more confident with a good manager in charge Jokanovic that our transfer policy will be more focussed and our selections more successful (but I still expect, like most other transfers to other clubs, the deals to be completed late in the window).
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 01:03:02 PMBeen told the change in formation from 4411 to 433/4141 has meant there is no place for him.
I do not quite understand the abuse of Jozabed. He seems to me to have a high level of skill and some creativity. The main problem he has, I would suggest, is that his natural role is too like that of Cairney and who in this league let alone the club would oust Cairney from the team.
Similarly with Tunnicliffe. I am more than happy to have him a backup in midfield.
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 01:11:46 PMThat's probably the best rationale to preserve his transfer value and save people's blushes. But the main problem is that he can't defend effectively and needs basic schooling in what to do along with strength conditioning work. Velvet with the ball, powderpuff without it. YouTube has a good goal he scored against Real Madrid, but the trouble was his team lost 10-2.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 01:03:02 PMBeen told the change in formation from 4411 to 433/4141 has meant there is no place for him.
I do not quite understand the abuse of Jozabed. He seems to me to have a high level of skill and some creativity. The main problem he has, I would suggest, is that his natural role is too like that of Cairney and who in this league let alone the club would oust Cairney from the team.
Similarly with Tunnicliffe. I am more than happy to have him a backup in midfield.
i agree he has a bag of skill but Championship maybe not the place for him.
Quote from: Carborundum on January 06, 2017, 01:27:26 PMQuote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 01:11:46 PMThat's probably the best rationale to preserve his transfer value and save people's blushes. But the main problem is that he can't defend effectively and needs basic schooling in what to do along with strength conditioning work. Velvet with the ball, powderpuff without it. YouTube has a good goal he scored against Real Madrid, but the trouble was his team lost 10-2.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 01:03:02 PMBeen told the change in formation from 4411 to 433/4141 has meant there is no place for him.
I do not quite understand the abuse of Jozabed. He seems to me to have a high level of skill and some creativity. The main problem he has, I would suggest, is that his natural role is too like that of Cairney and who in this league let alone the club would oust Cairney from the team.
Similarly with Tunnicliffe. I am more than happy to have him a backup in midfield.
i agree he has a bag of skill but Championship maybe not the place for him.
As you say, the Championship maybe not the place for him.
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:47:54 PMI agree it was a good window, however whilst I was happy with Martin, and yes, we left it very late and it was a loan only. My point is that it was our no1 priority having lostQuote from: FulhamStu on January 06, 2017, 12:39:50 PMWhen you sign 14 players not all are going to work out.
Have we been caught out even more than we think re the Chris Martin debacle ? If as has been said many times before this latest episode that the permanent deal to sign him just a matter of time, Fulham would only be looking for a backup and planned to invest the main striker budget to Martins acquisition. Now his loan let alone Permanent signing is in question we are behind the 8 ball in our identification of a number 1 striker. It has been said that Martin may be reacting to Fulham having changed their minds, i.e. It's Fulham who now only want to maintain the loan on not sign him permanently.
Talk about a soap opera.
Anyway, at the end of the day we need a striker capable of leading the line, we know this is not Matt Smith, so one can see that recruiting a loan as our only real option was very poor, even though the summer transfer dealings were good in many ways, this is now costing us. Any new player could well need time to integrate, meanwhile we continue to drop points and let see the possibility of the playoffs get less and less.
Siggurdson would also appear to be less than we hoped for as with Button and Jozabed a total disaster.
This shows that even with a pretty good transfer window as it was last time out, there was still a lot we got wrong. It's easy in hindsite and I know its perfectly normal to not get all transfers right. The problem is, a striker was the most bleeding obvious area we needed to strengthen and what has now happened means we got this horribly wrong. Lessons need to be learned, a lot has improved and this season is a positive experience but to be in the top 3 Fulham have to do better.
Only one of those 14 could be said to not be involved in the squad (Jozabad)
Another is Martin and one other who could say has not worked is Kebano. The rest are pretty much Matchday squad players at least. Not a bad hit rate at all.
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 06, 2017, 01:43:29 PMQuote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:47:54 PMI agree it was a good window, however whilst I was happy with Martin, and yes, we left it very late and it was a loan only. My point is that it was our no1 priority having lostQuote from: FulhamStu on January 06, 2017, 12:39:50 PMWhen you sign 14 players not all are going to work out.
Have we been caught out even more than we think re the Chris Martin debacle ? If as has been said many times before this latest episode that the permanent deal to sign him just a matter of time, Fulham would only be looking for a backup and planned to invest the main striker budget to Martins acquisition. Now his loan let alone Permanent signing is in question we are behind the 8 ball in our identification of a number 1 striker. It has been said that Martin may be reacting to Fulham having changed their minds, i.e. It's Fulham who now only want to maintain the loan on not sign him permanently.
Talk about a soap opera.
Anyway, at the end of the day we need a striker capable of leading the line, we know this is not Matt Smith, so one can see that recruiting a loan as our only real option was very poor, even though the summer transfer dealings were good in many ways, this is now costing us. Any new player could well need time to integrate, meanwhile we continue to drop points and let see the possibility of the playoffs get less and less.
Siggurdson would also appear to be less than we hoped for as with Button and Jozabed a total disaster.
This shows that even with a pretty good transfer window as it was last time out, there was still a lot we got wrong. It's easy in hindsite and I know its perfectly normal to not get all transfers right. The problem is, a striker was the most bleeding obvious area we needed to strengthen and what has now happened means we got this horribly wrong. Lessons need to be learned, a lot has improved and this season is a positive experience but to be in the top 3 Fulham have to do better.
Only one of those 14 could be said to not be involved in the squad (Jozabad)
Another is Martin and one other who could say has not worked is Kebano. The rest are pretty much Matchday squad players at least. Not a bad hit rate at all.
Mac and Dembele and yes we should have signed more than one striker but now Martin is behaving so badly we are left completely exposed with no adequate striker. Did we really need all the other players, probably not however McDonald, Johansen and Kalas outstanding signings, Ayite and Aluko very good signings, the rest can be debated but Striker were the main requirement and we messed that up.
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:56:35 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 12:52:19 PMJozabad is excatly that really, a managers choice. So from my pov and knowledge the one player we backed our manager with has not worked.Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
I don't disagree with you but the point I was trying to make is the one called strategy for success rather than fear of failure. Yes, the buying in the summer was largely successful in spite of many comments in these forums to the contrary. I am one of those who backed SJ from the start because I understood what he wanted to do, and I don't believe the Club did all it could do for SJ during the last window. Sure some players will not want to come here but you can suss that pretty darned quickly with the right questions and plan your acquisitions much more carefully. That is a strategy that has a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C. I want the Club to back SJ one hundred percent with the only limit being the need to keep within FFP.
I agree.
I am sure that various structures involving Directors of Football, statistical analysts and coaches can work but my suspicion is that they are going to fail more often than not.
If you need a DoF and analyst to be given as much the same weight as the manager in choosing players to moderate his choices then you have the wrong manager, either a mad one like Magath or an inexperienced one like Symons.
I am much more confident with a good manager in charge Jokanovic that our transfer policy will be more focussed and our selections more successful (but I still expect, like most other transfers to other clubs, the deals to be completed late in the window).
Quote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 01:53:54 PMlet's be frank, Jozabed being a SJ player doesn't fit the stance on stat man being the center of all our ills.
Two thirds of our spending in the summer window went on 3 players who now can't get in the team. And our best 11 now features players at CB (currently both of them), RB, attacking midfield and up front (and if some had their way, GK) who we had last season when we finished 20th. So whilst I do agree that the summer ins/outs were an "overall success" and an improvement, let's not get carried away. Our improvement is clearly more attributable to the manager than the players at his disposal
I'm also still not accepting as gospel like some seem to that jozabed was jokanovic's choice. But that's another debate for another day.
As to the speed of our business generally versus our rivals', show me which of the clubs from reading down to Birmingham sold their best two strikers in the summer and still hasn't got a replacement. Then maybe we can have a worthwhile comparison of our respective progress in that department this month
Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 02:39:30 PMQuote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:56:35 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 12:52:19 PMJozabad is excatly that really, a managers choice. So from my pov and knowledge the one player we backed our manager with has not worked.Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
I don't disagree with you but the point I was trying to make is the one called strategy for success rather than fear of failure. Yes, the buying in the summer was largely successful in spite of many comments in these forums to the contrary. I am one of those who backed SJ from the start because I understood what he wanted to do, and I don't believe the Club did all it could do for SJ during the last window. Sure some players will not want to come here but you can suss that pretty darned quickly with the right questions and plan your acquisitions much more carefully. That is a strategy that has a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C. I want the Club to back SJ one hundred percent with the only limit being the need to keep within FFP.
I agree.
I am sure that various structures involving Directors of Football, statistical analysts and coaches can work but my suspicion is that they are going to fail more often than not.
If you need a DoF and analyst to be given as much the same weight as the manager in choosing players to moderate his choices then you have the wrong manager, either a mad one like Magath or an inexperienced one like Symons.
I am much more confident with a good manager in charge Jokanovic that our transfer policy will be more focussed and our selections more successful (but I still expect, like most other transfers to other clubs, the deals to be completed late in the window).
I, for one, haven't seen enough of Jozabed to make a judgement that 'he is a wrong one' or 'a mistake' but I do see SJ trying to arrive at a settled first team i.e. one that selects itself. Jozabed would have to fight for his place as has Matt Smith and many others. The real problem is Martin and how we arrived, as a Club, at the point where we have an unsettled player for reasons that seem to be down to an impression given to Martin in August which the Club is now reneging on. I am assuming at this point that SJ wanted him signed permanently in August too, and hasn't changed his mind. If that is at all true then the Club really needs to understand the nature of its business one hell of a lot better than it is doing.
Quote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 02:40:47 PMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 01:53:54 PMlet's be frank, Jozabed being a SJ player doesn't fit the stance on stat man being the center of all our ills.
Two thirds of our spending in the summer window went on 3 players who now can't get in the team. And our best 11 now features players at CB (currently both of them), RB, attacking midfield and up front (and if some had their way, GK) who we had last season when we finished 20th. So whilst I do agree that the summer ins/outs were an "overall success" and an improvement, let's not get carried away. Our improvement is clearly more attributable to the manager than the players at his disposal
I'm also still not accepting as gospel like some seem to that jozabed was jokanovic's choice. But that's another debate for another day.
As to the speed of our business generally versus our rivals', show me which of the clubs from reading down to Birmingham sold their best two strikers in the summer and still hasn't got a replacement. Then maybe we can have a worthwhile comparison of our respective progress in that department this month
I've been told he was his man based on how SJ thought he would set up. We have changed now and that along with his issues adapting to being in England is why he's not playing.
Now you will say why spend the money and not play him, well that happens enough times where signings just don't work out.
Quote from: snarks on January 06, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
Enjoying this thread as I am, I was wondering where the rumours part had gone
Quote from: keithh on January 06, 2017, 04:28:13 PM:plus one:
The Official Silly Transfer Thread used to be just that & I enjoyed clicking in every couple of days to see the thoughts & views of folk. It used to be fun but lately it's beginning to get hard work. Can we lighten it up please?
Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 02:59:34 PMQuote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 02:40:47 PMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 01:53:54 PMlet's be frank, Jozabed being a SJ player doesn't fit the stance on stat man being the center of all our ills.
Two thirds of our spending in the summer window went on 3 players who now can't get in the team. And our best 11 now features players at CB (currently both of them), RB, attacking midfield and up front (and if some had their way, GK) who we had last season when we finished 20th. So whilst I do agree that the summer ins/outs were an "overall success" and an improvement, let's not get carried away. Our improvement is clearly more attributable to the manager than the players at his disposal
I'm also still not accepting as gospel like some seem to that jozabed was jokanovic's choice. But that's another debate for another day.
As to the speed of our business generally versus our rivals', show me which of the clubs from reading down to Birmingham sold their best two strikers in the summer and still hasn't got a replacement. Then maybe we can have a worthwhile comparison of our respective progress in that department this month
I've been told he was his man based on how SJ thought he would set up. We have changed now and that along with his issues adapting to being in England is why he's not playing.
Now you will say why spend the money and not play him, well that happens enough times where signings just don't work out.
And so Jozabed is not so much a bad player or a bad signing as a person who is failing to acclimatise in England which is a tricky problem to overcome, just as Martin's injury may be the result of feeling badly let down by the Club. You really couldn't make all this up. Who is the captain of this ship and do we have one because if we don't perhaps SJ should be given total charge?
Quote from: spikey norman on January 06, 2017, 05:19:42 PM
One of the other Fulham forums saying Ashkan Dejagah available on a free.
Is he worth a punt?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 06, 2017, 05:20:28 PMbetter than most of our players so a yes from meQuote from: spikey norman on January 06, 2017, 05:19:42 PM
One of the other Fulham forums saying Ashkan Dejagah available on a free.
Is he worth a punt?
If we could get him on affordable wages I would say yes but dont think thats realistic so no.
Quote from: Delboy on January 06, 2017, 04:37:12 PMPersonally don't think what page it gets to before a signing matters as long as we sign the right players to enhance the squad.
Up to page 30 on this thread now, no signings, What page will we see our first new face? Predictions here please ...... 049:gif
Quote from: keithh on January 06, 2017, 04:28:13 PMDifficult with Martingate hovering in the background, beginning to think that the priority at the moment is to get Martin off our hands so that we can then concentrate on the real need for a new striker.
The Official Silly Transfer Thread used to be just that & I enjoyed clicking in every couple of days to see the thoughts & views of folk. It used to be fun but lately it's beginning to get hard work. Can we lighten it up please?
Quote from: Delboy on January 06, 2017, 04:37:12 PMPage 42!! I will keep adding rubbish just to get it moving along!
Up to page 30 on this thread now, no signings, What page will we see our first new face? Predictions here please ...... 049:gif
Quote from: TimoFFC on January 06, 2017, 06:55:14 PM
Now it says that we are in for Cisse on sky sports transfer centre.
CISSE TO FULHAM?
Fulham are in talks to sign Standard Liege midfielder Ibrahima Cisse, according to Sky sources.
Quote from: TimoFFC on January 06, 2017, 07:17:19 PM
have we been linked with Britton?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 06, 2017, 07:23:14 PMQuote from: TimoFFC on January 06, 2017, 07:17:19 PM
have we been linked with Britton?
Think he means Nir Bitton. Celtic Midfielder. Would rather have him than Ibrahima Cisse but guess Cisse is more affordable option as we only really need back up!
Quote from: The Swan on January 06, 2017, 07:36:58 PM
Is he the same Cisse who played for Liverpool. If so then a big NO
Quote from: f321ffc on January 06, 2017, 07:38:51 PM
Celta Vigo want Jozabed.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 08:44:42 PM
Jason Cummings of Hibs who been mentioned a few times and who we enquired about last window has scored another 2 tonight in first half.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 06, 2017, 09:18:23 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 08:44:42 PMThought he looked a good bet when we were first linked ,looks very decent. Im not sure why Celtic or Rangers haven't snapped him up?
Jason Cummings of Hibs who been mentioned a few times and who we enquired about last window has scored another 2 tonight in first half.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 06, 2017, 09:25:43 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 06, 2017, 09:18:23 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 06, 2017, 08:44:42 PMThought he looked a good bet when we were first linked ,looks very decent. Im not sure why Celtic or Rangers haven't snapped him up?
Jason Cummings of Hibs who been mentioned a few times and who we enquired about last window has scored another 2 tonight in first half.
Only 21 as well. Is it just me or does anyone else have to look twice when it says D.O.B 1995?? 092.gif
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 07, 2017, 11:05:53 AMGot to agree. Youngster who will only get much better as well :)
Having seen Cumming's goals on youtube he looks to me as if he has an 'eye for goal' .
In other words confident when presented with a chance to score unlike many of our present players who don't appear calm in front of goal.
That can translate to any football.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Quote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Not big enough I am afraid.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 07, 2017, 06:30:05 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Not big enough I am afraid.
Was thinking the exact same, crying out a Dunk type lump, need a dominant centre half badly
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 06:42:07 PMand a keeper like stockdaleQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 07, 2017, 06:30:05 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Not big enough I am afraid.
Was thinking the exact same, crying out a Dunk type lump, need a dominant centre half badly
Absolutely.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 07, 2017, 06:44:05 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 06:42:07 PMand a keeper like stockdaleQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 07, 2017, 06:30:05 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Not big enough I am afraid.
Was thinking the exact same, crying out a Dunk type lump, need a dominant centre half badly
Absolutely.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 07, 2017, 06:44:05 PMStockdale is made to look much better than he is by the impressive Brighton back four. He is not premiership quality as he displayed when he was with us although I accept he may be a slight upgrade on ButtonQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 06:42:07 PMand a keeper like stockdaleQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 07, 2017, 06:30:05 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Not big enough I am afraid.
Was thinking the exact same, crying out a Dunk type lump, need a dominant centre half badly
Absolutely.
Quote from: SG on January 07, 2017, 07:20:09 PMIf we were dismissing every player that we had that wasn't prem quality, then we wouldn't even be able to field a 5 aside team. Stockdale is far superior to button.Quote from: fulhamben on January 07, 2017, 06:44:05 PMStockdale is made to look much better than he is by the impressive Brighton back four. He is not premiership quality as he displayed when he was with us although I accept he may be a slight upgrade on ButtonQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 06:42:07 PMand a keeper like stockdaleQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 07, 2017, 06:30:05 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 07, 2017, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 07, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Norwegian CB Vegard Forren is wanted by several Championship clubs (source is Norwegian media).
http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath (http://www.transfermarkt.com/vegard-forren/profil/spieler/62054#ath)
Not big enough I am afraid.
Was thinking the exact same, crying out a Dunk type lump, need a dominant centre half badly
Absolutely.
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMAhah? Isn't he the kazakhstanian Messi, albeit it with one eye and three thumbs. Would be a real coup to get him inQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 08, 2017, 12:35:59 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMAhah? Isn't he the kazakhstanian Messi, albeit it with one eye and three thumbs. Would be a real coup to get him inQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:55:49 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
I think Kline would be very intrigued by Niasse by looking at his stats. While playing for Locomotiv Moscow for 6 months last year until he moved to Everton, he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 23 games in the Russian League/Cup/Super Cup and the Europa League.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 08, 2017, 12:59:11 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:55:49 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
I think Kline would be very intrigued by Niasse by looking at his stats. While playing for Locomotiv Moscow for 6 months last year until he moved to Everton, he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 23 games in the Russian League/Cup/Super Cup and the Europa League.
In the Russian league, where Sigurdsson was one of its best defenders who has struggled with us
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 01:26:01 AMwhen we were in the Premier league, who did we sign from the lower leagues who turned out to be good. I can't think of one.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 08, 2017, 12:59:11 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:55:49 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
I think Kline would be very intrigued by Niasse by looking at his stats. While playing for Locomotiv Moscow for 6 months last year until he moved to Everton, he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 23 games in the Russian League/Cup/Super Cup and the Europa League.
In the Russian league, where Sigurdsson was one of its best defenders who has struggled with us
It's more a question of whether he would fit our style of play, rather than which league he used to play. If that was the case, teams would never consider getting players from lower leagues.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 08, 2017, 01:57:35 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 01:26:01 AMwhen we were in the Premier league, who did we sign from the lower leagues who turned out to be good. I can't think of one.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 08, 2017, 12:59:11 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:55:49 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
I think Kline would be very intrigued by Niasse by looking at his stats. While playing for Locomotiv Moscow for 6 months last year until he moved to Everton, he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 23 games in the Russian League/Cup/Super Cup and the Europa League.
In the Russian league, where Sigurdsson was one of its best defenders who has struggled with us
It's more a question of whether he would fit our style of play, rather than which league he used to play. If that was the case, teams would never consider getting players from lower leagues.
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 02:09:27 AMI see, when ever the words lower leagues are mentioned, I automatically think of the English pyramid. Now if you had of said a lower standard league, we would be on the same pageQuote from: fulhamben on January 08, 2017, 01:57:35 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 01:26:01 AMwhen we were in the Premier league, who did we sign from the lower leagues who turned out to be good. I can't think of one.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 08, 2017, 12:59:11 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:55:49 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 08, 2017, 12:22:46 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
No actual rumours, but would you take Leonardo Ulloa, Oumar Niasse or Lewis Grabban on loan? None of them gets any playing time in their clubs.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Who are people expecting us to get ahah? All 3 would be top strikers at this level.
I think Kline would be very intrigued by Niasse by looking at his stats. While playing for Locomotiv Moscow for 6 months last year until he moved to Everton, he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 23 games in the Russian League/Cup/Super Cup and the Europa League.
In the Russian league, where Sigurdsson was one of its best defenders who has struggled with us
It's more a question of whether he would fit our style of play, rather than which league he used to play. If that was the case, teams would never consider getting players from lower leagues.
Dempsey and Dembele came from "lower" leagues and they didn't turn out to be too bad for us.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 08, 2017, 09:38:32 AMif we are to believe the way we do business most of the summer signings were down to Kline and his stats.
Ibrihami Cisse,love the way Sky pages state !Although only making 13 appearances, he has performed STATISTICALLY well!
Kline signing then?
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 08, 2017, 03:36:16 PMAbsolutely spot on, Sessegnon, one striker and one central defender will do very nicely.
From Sky Sports Transfer Centre:
JOKANOVIC WANTS SESSEGNON STAY
Slavisa Jokanovic has urged Fulham owner Shahid Khan to keep hold of teenage sensation Ryan Sessegnon and strengthen his squad for a promotion push.
Sessegnon became one of the youngest scorers in FA Cup history - at 16 years and 235 days – with the winner in Fulham's 2-1 third round success at Cardiff.
The England Under-17 international has been linked to the Premier League's big guns, with Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, and Tottenham all reportedly showing interest in the Wandsworth-born product.
"He's very good for the project of this football club, he's one of the most talented teenagers in England," Jokanovic said.
Asked what he expected of the January transfer window, Jokanovic replied: "It depends on our ambition.
"I want Ryan Sessegnon, I want one striker and I want one defender."
Quote from: FFC73 on January 08, 2017, 06:14:11 PM
Would that be the same £3m we gave Derby so Mr Martin would play for us this season that they are now using to buy Nugent? :doh: fp.gif :Get Coat gif:
I'll go S001.gif
Please Mr 051 get Joka what he is asking for (Sees, a striker and a defender) and get him to sign a new contract in the process so we can kick on for second half 16/17 and keep it going into 17/18
Quote from: FPT on January 08, 2017, 06:53:10 PMI heard it was 2.5 million and a balance of 6.5 to pay if we wish to make the deal permanentQuote from: FFC73 on January 08, 2017, 06:14:11 PM
Would that be the same £3m we gave Derby so Mr Martin would play for us this season that they are now using to buy Nugent? :doh: fp.gif :Get Coat gif:
I'll go S001.gif
Please Mr 051 get Joka what he is asking for (Sees, a striker and a defender) and get him to sign a new contract in the process so we can kick on for second half 16/17 and keep it going into 17/18
The loan fee was £1m.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 08, 2017, 04:47:10 PMRe Kalas and Piazon, the more urgent is Piazon as he is due back middle of Jan I think
New rumor that Derby have had a 3 million pound bid accepted for Nugent.
Mr. Martin may have dug his own grave for this season. Aside from standing on the field at Craven Cottage on match day and apologizing to the club and the supporters, I don't see how he can repair anything with our club.
I hope that we not only re-sign Ryan Sessegnon, as well as getting the new striker and defender, but, I'd hope that the club would want to make both Kalas and Piazon permanent members of this team.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 08, 2017, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 08, 2017, 04:47:10 PMRe Kalas and Piazon, the more urgent is Piazon as he is due back middle of Jan I think
New rumor that Derby have had a 3 million pound bid accepted for Nugent.
Mr. Martin may have dug his own grave for this season. Aside from standing on the field at Craven Cottage on match day and apologizing to the club and the supporters, I don't see how he can repair anything with our club.
I hope that we not only re-sign Ryan Sessegnon, as well as getting the new striker and defender, but, I'd hope that the club would want to make both Kalas and Piazon permanent members of this team.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 08, 2017, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 08, 2017, 04:47:10 PMRe Kalas and Piazon, the more urgent is Piazon as he is due back middle of Jan I think
New rumor that Derby have had a 3 million pound bid accepted for Nugent.
Mr. Martin may have dug his own grave for this season. Aside from standing on the field at Craven Cottage on match day and apologizing to the club and the supporters, I don't see how he can repair anything with our club.
I hope that we not only re-sign Ryan Sessegnon, as well as getting the new striker and defender, but, I'd hope that the club would want to make both Kalas and Piazon permanent members of this team.
Quote from: mkras99 on January 08, 2017, 07:25:56 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/brighton-fulham-saturday-night-transfer-mission-flying-championship-flag/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/brighton-fulham-saturday-night-transfer-mission-flying-championship-flag/)
Quote from: river phoenix on January 08, 2017, 07:43:24 PMQuote from: mkras99 on January 08, 2017, 07:25:56 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/brighton-fulham-saturday-night-transfer-mission-flying-championship-flag/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/brighton-fulham-saturday-night-transfer-mission-flying-championship-flag/)
Benfica players are probably out of our reach at the moment but Vitoria Guimaraes has 2 good strikers/forwards (both on loan from Porto), Hernani and Moussa Marega. Could be interesting for us in the summer.
Quote from: S-Blocker on January 08, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
Rumour Leeds are going after Leicester City's Ulloa.
Now there's a striker I wouldn't mind us going in for.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 08, 2017, 08:49:53 PMRather have Richard Osman!! Good height up front
Free Agent Leon Osman interesting Championship sides.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 08, 2017, 07:43:24 PMQuote from: mkras99 on January 08, 2017, 07:25:56 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/brighton-fulham-saturday-night-transfer-mission-flying-championship-flag/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/brighton-fulham-saturday-night-transfer-mission-flying-championship-flag/)
Benfica players are probably out of our reach at the moment but Vitoria Guimaraes has 2 good strikers/forwards (both on loan from Porto), Hernani and Moussa Marega. Could be interesting for us in the summer.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 09, 2017, 12:33:35 AM
"Didier Drogba, 38, says he could return to former club Marseilles. The ex-Chelsea striker has been without a club since leaving Montreal Impact at the end of the 2016 Major League Soccer season. (Canal+, via Eurosport)"
Even at 38 could he do a job for us this season?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:21:36 AMPersonally think that's a bit high for him and what he offers.
Just seen on twitter from a Chelsea covering journalist
Chelsea loanee, Lucas Piazon will be making his move to Fulham a permanent one soon. Fee reported to be around £4m.
Quote from: MJG on January 09, 2017, 10:26:33 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:21:36 AMPersonally think that's a bit high for him and what he offers.
Just seen on twitter from a Chelsea covering journalist
Chelsea loanee, Lucas Piazon will be making his move to Fulham a permanent one soon. Fee reported to be around £4m.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:28:45 AMYes get that and good player. I'd be happy to sign him maybe at £2.5M plus £1.5m on performances and sell on maybe.Quote from: MJG on January 09, 2017, 10:26:33 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:21:36 AMPersonally think that's a bit high for him and what he offers.
Just seen on twitter from a Chelsea covering journalist
Chelsea loanee, Lucas Piazon will be making his move to Fulham a permanent one soon. Fee reported to be around £4m.
I'm a big fan of him and I think realistically we were never going to get him for below this price especially given the fact hes still only 22! Hes younger than Woodrow. Definitely a deal we could make profit on
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 02:56:24 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 02:39:30 PMQuote from: MJG on January 06, 2017, 12:56:35 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 12:52:19 PMJozabad is excatly that really, a managers choice. So from my pov and knowledge the one player we backed our manager with has not worked.Quote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 06, 2017, 11:44:23 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 06, 2017, 10:29:56 AMQuote from: Statto on January 06, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
If you want to make a point along the lines of, "most" business happens toward the end of a window, fine, I don't dispute that. Just as "most" clubs don't get promoted; "most" clubs will lose or draw "most" of their games rather than winning them. But things like getting promoted, winning, and signing players early in the window still happen very often nonetheless. Signing players late isn't inevitable, nor is playing a quarter of the season with Matt smith up front, as we likely will. The "reality" is that to achieve anything positive this club needs to perform exceptionally well in the transfer market, just as it does on the pitch, but Currently, as the selling activity I just mentioned and indeed your own statistics show, we are exceptionally bad at this, in terms of timing at least.
I think you are spot on with this Statto. During our rise under MAF we were a buying Club with ambition and although FFP has changed some of the nature of the dealings I do believe that Fulham's higher management echelons (above SJ that is) could polish up their strategy when it comes to retaining quality players who have demonstrated a commitment to Fulham but have been sold on - Steve Sidwell and David Stockdale in the Brighton side to name but two examples. As a Club we have need to have a focus on the business we are in, which is, I assume, to rise to the best football level we can in the professional game because otherwise why not just sell the Craven Cottage site and let the whole thing collapse? SJ has shown a lot of ability to get players performing at a better level than we may have anticipated on their arrival. SJ needs to be properly supported within the Club and anticipation of a Martin (or even McCormack) style problem is a reason for having strength in depth.
I think that you have answered your own points.
You cannot compare the rise under MAF with now because of FFP.
The loss of players like Sidwell and Stockdale that many fans would have wanted to keep is not directly down to the senior management but down to the manager. Yes, the senior management choose the wrong manager and the losses were a consequence. Quite a few did not want to lose Burn but that was a consequence of having Jokanovic as manager.
The club thought they had an ambitious deal for an striker in the summer but the selling club pulled out on the last day.
Strangely players are not queuing up to join Fulham.
Strangely Fulham can't force a club to sell or a player to sign or to accept an offer on the day we make one.
And with FFP our budget is severely limited so the club cannot throw money at the problem as in the early days under MAF.
I don't disagree with you but the point I was trying to make is the one called strategy for success rather than fear of failure. Yes, the buying in the summer was largely successful in spite of many comments in these forums to the contrary. I am one of those who backed SJ from the start because I understood what he wanted to do, and I don't believe the Club did all it could do for SJ during the last window. Sure some players will not want to come here but you can suss that pretty darned quickly with the right questions and plan your acquisitions much more carefully. That is a strategy that has a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C. I want the Club to back SJ one hundred percent with the only limit being the need to keep within FFP.
I agree.
I am sure that various structures involving Directors of Football, statistical analysts and coaches can work but my suspicion is that they are going to fail more often than not.
If you need a DoF and analyst to be given as much the same weight as the manager in choosing players to moderate his choices then you have the wrong manager, either a mad one like Magath or an inexperienced one like Symons.
I am much more confident with a good manager in charge Jokanovic that our transfer policy will be more focussed and our selections more successful (but I still expect, like most other transfers to other clubs, the deals to be completed late in the window).
I, for one, haven't seen enough of Jozabed to make a judgement that 'he is a wrong one' or 'a mistake' but I do see SJ trying to arrive at a settled first team i.e. one that selects itself. Jozabed would have to fight for his place as has Matt Smith and many others. The real problem is Martin and how we arrived, as a Club, at the point where we have an unsettled player for reasons that seem to be down to an impression given to Martin in August which the Club is now reneging on. I am assuming at this point that SJ wanted him signed permanently in August too, and hasn't changed his mind. If that is at all true then the Club really needs to understand the nature of its business one hell of a lot better than it is doing.
This view takes no account of the change of manager at Derby, what Steve McClaren has said about Martin and that Derby are prepared to or have offered Martin a new contract. Plus isn't there something about Martin's family still being in Derby.
I suggest that these factors have had a significant influence on the situation rather than anything Fulham might have done.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:28:45 AMQuote from: MJG on January 09, 2017, 10:26:33 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:21:36 AMPersonally think that's a bit high for him and what he offers.
Just seen on twitter from a Chelsea covering journalist
Chelsea loanee, Lucas Piazon will be making his move to Fulham a permanent one soon. Fee reported to be around £4m.
I'm a big fan of him and I think realistically we were never going to get him for below this price especially given the fact hes still only 22! Hes younger than Woodrow. Definitely a deal we could make profit on
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 09, 2017, 01:28:29 PMTo be fair Fulham have said nothing about Cairney.
So Fulham are going to suck up the loan fee for Martin to keep from helping Derby, a league rival, but, we're somehow willing to sell our best player (and on-field or vice-captain) to other league rivals??? Know that Newcastle and Brighton are pretty much long gone but, why shoot ourselves in the foot just as we are getting up and running. Just can't see it happening for any amount this season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 09, 2017, 02:58:08 PM
Birmingham mail, Villa want to swop Ross for Brady at Norwich.
Weren't Norwich after him before?
Quote from: MJG on January 09, 2017, 02:29:13 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 09, 2017, 01:28:29 PMTo be fair Fulham have said nothing about Cairney.
So Fulham are going to suck up the loan fee for Martin to keep from helping Derby, a league rival, but, we're somehow willing to sell our best player (and on-field or vice-captain) to other league rivals??? Know that Newcastle and Brighton are pretty much long gone but, why shoot ourselves in the foot just as we are getting up and running. Just can't see it happening for any amount this season.
The £10M figure which appeared in West London press by Paul Warburton was just made up by him and his article was pretty much ripped to shreds on twitter as just being fluff
Quote from: mkras99 on January 09, 2017, 03:29:34 PMJolslover will love him with his exotic name...lol
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-linked-with-move-for-french-defender/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2017/01/fulham-linked-with-move-for-french-defender/)
Quote from: grandad on January 09, 2017, 05:01:12 PMBetter still, swap him for Chris Martin!!
Do a swap with Grimsby We take Bogle & they can have Woodrow.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 09, 2017, 05:51:25 PM
DONE DEAL: Derby County have signed striker David Nugent from Middlesbrough for a fee worth in excess of £2.5m.
Quote from: dhowells21 on January 09, 2017, 05:59:44 PMSJ wants him said in early December the one bit of business we need to do is sign Chris Martin, I cant see why that would have changed as he scored a few in December as well. So for me the rumours we don't want him are wide of the mark.Quote from: f321ffc on January 09, 2017, 05:51:25 PM
DONE DEAL: Derby County have signed striker David Nugent from Middlesbrough for a fee worth in excess of £2.5m.
What does this mean for Chris Martin then? No longer wanted at Derby or here now?
Quote from: Allestree andy on January 09, 2017, 06:36:26 PMWhilst I would agree, what happens if we cannot find someone to come in or if they do and don't score? we don't have a lot in reserve
David Nugent: Middlesbrough striker joins Derby County for reported £2.5m.
Well it seems that the wally with the brolly has managed to destablise us with his martin interest and has now signed nugent. I wonder hoiw martin feels now.
dont let him back in S.J
Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 06:39:58 PMWe live and learn. And the lesson is, if you lose your main two strikers, don't just get one last minute panic loan to cover themQuote from: Allestree andy on January 09, 2017, 06:36:26 PMWhilst I would agree, what happens if we cannot find someone to come in or if they do and don't score? we don't have a lot in reserve
David Nugent: Middlesbrough striker joins Derby County for reported £2.5m.
Well it seems that the wally with the brolly has managed to destablise us with his martin interest and has now signed nugent. I wonder hoiw martin feels now.
dont let him back in S.J
Quote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 06:48:55 PMHe wasn't a panic as I have said before Ben, we wanted earlier but Derby, well Pearson, insisted on getting replacements in first, they signed Vydra but not the other, but allowed the deal to happen but far to late for a permanent deal. Hence the 2.5 loan fee and balance of 6.5 if we wish to make it permanent.Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 06:39:58 PMWe live and learn. And the lesson is, if you lose your main two strikers, don't just get one last minute panic loan to cover themQuote from: Allestree andy on January 09, 2017, 06:36:26 PMWhilst I would agree, what happens if we cannot find someone to come in or if they do and don't score? we don't have a lot in reserve
David Nugent: Middlesbrough striker joins Derby County for reported £2.5m.
Well it seems that the wally with the brolly has managed to destablise us with his martin interest and has now signed nugent. I wonder hoiw martin feels now.
dont let him back in S.J
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2017, 08:34:38 PMvery good question, which is why I said will the players take him back, will the club allow it, all will be known in the next week to ten days I reckon
Whatever we might think of Martin and how things got to this point, now Nugents signed for Derby WTF does Martin do now ?
Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 08:37:09 PMHow could Fulham ever trust that Martin would give 100% for the rest of the season. Especially as Derby are also trying for one of those play off spots. We already know he is not professional so we could never take the risk of playing himQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2017, 08:34:38 PMvery good question, which is why I said will the players take him back, will the club allow it, all will be known in the next week to ten days I reckon
Whatever we might think of Martin and how things got to this point, now Nugents signed for Derby WTF does Martin do now ?
Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 06:54:10 PMhence the last minute panic loanQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 06:48:55 PMHe wasn't a panic as I have said before Ben, we wanted earlier but Derby, well Pearson, insisted on getting replacements in first, they signed Vydra but not the other, but allowed the deal to happen but far to late for a permanent deal. Hence the 2.5 loan fee and balance of 6.5 if we wish to make it permanent.Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 06:39:58 PMWe live and learn. And the lesson is, if you lose your main two strikers, don't just get one last minute panic loan to cover themQuote from: Allestree andy on January 09, 2017, 06:36:26 PMWhilst I would agree, what happens if we cannot find someone to come in or if they do and don't score? we don't have a lot in reserve
David Nugent: Middlesbrough striker joins Derby County for reported £2.5m.
Well it seems that the wally with the brolly has managed to destablise us with his martin interest and has now signed nugent. I wonder hoiw martin feels now.
dont let him back in S.J
However I agree we live and learn and think FFC will take a lesson and not be held to ransom again so long in a window, and Martin will probably learn a lesson too
Quote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 08:44:12 PMagree with you, but if we sign someone they don't score or get injured, we could just be left with Smith and Humphrys who is still finding his way. We may have no option, SJ has said he wants one striker this window and that was after the martin thing kicked offQuote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 08:37:09 PMHow could Fulham ever trust that Martin would give 100% for the rest of the season. Especially as Derby are also trying for one of those play off spots. We already know he is not professional so we could never take the risk of playing himQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2017, 08:34:38 PMvery good question, which is why I said will the players take him back, will the club allow it, all will be known in the next week to ten days I reckon
Whatever we might think of Martin and how things got to this point, now Nugents signed for Derby WTF does Martin do now ?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 08:45:06 PMfor me it isn't a panic if you have been trailing him all window and have agreed everything, the loan was just because Derby left it so late. if they had not we would not be in the situation we are now with MartinQuote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 06:54:10 PMhence the last minute panic loanQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 06:48:55 PMHe wasn't a panic as I have said before Ben, we wanted earlier but Derby, well Pearson, insisted on getting replacements in first, they signed Vydra but not the other, but allowed the deal to happen but far to late for a permanent deal. Hence the 2.5 loan fee and balance of 6.5 if we wish to make it permanent.Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 06:39:58 PMWe live and learn. And the lesson is, if you lose your main two strikers, don't just get one last minute panic loan to cover themQuote from: Allestree andy on January 09, 2017, 06:36:26 PMWhilst I would agree, what happens if we cannot find someone to come in or if they do and don't score? we don't have a lot in reserve
David Nugent: Middlesbrough striker joins Derby County for reported £2.5m.
Well it seems that the wally with the brolly has managed to destablise us with his martin interest and has now signed nugent. I wonder hoiw martin feels now.
dont let him back in S.J
However I agree we live and learn and think FFC will take a lesson and not be held to ransom again so long in a window, and Martin will probably learn a lesson too
Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 08:47:02 PMthen we play humphrys Smith or play without a striker again. No striker is better than one who might have an agendaQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 08:44:12 PMagree with you, but if we sign someone they don't score or get injured, we could just be left with Smith and Humphrys who is still finding his way. We may have no option, SJ has said he wants one striker this window and that was after the martin thing kicked offQuote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 08:37:09 PMHow could Fulham ever trust that Martin would give 100% for the rest of the season. Especially as Derby are also trying for one of those play off spots. We already know he is not professional so we could never take the risk of playing himQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2017, 08:34:38 PMvery good question, which is why I said will the players take him back, will the club allow it, all will be known in the next week to ten days I reckon
Whatever we might think of Martin and how things got to this point, now Nugents signed for Derby WTF does Martin do now ?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 08:49:23 PMcould cost us a play off spot.Quote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 08:47:02 PMthen we play humphrys Smith or play without a striker again. No striker is better than one who might have an agendaQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 08:44:12 PMagree with you, but if we sign someone they don't score or get injured, we could just be left with Smith and Humphrys who is still finding his way. We may have no option, SJ has said he wants one striker this window and that was after the martin thing kicked offQuote from: westcliff white on January 09, 2017, 08:37:09 PMHow could Fulham ever trust that Martin would give 100% for the rest of the season. Especially as Derby are also trying for one of those play off spots. We already know he is not professional so we could never take the risk of playing himQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2017, 08:34:38 PMvery good question, which is why I said will the players take him back, will the club allow it, all will be known in the next week to ten days I reckon
Whatever we might think of Martin and how things got to this point, now Nugents signed for Derby WTF does Martin do now ?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
I'm annoyed about this. Derby buying Nugent seems like it means we are stuck with a player that doesn't want to be here.. We should have sent him back to Derby.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
I'm annoyed about this. Derby buying Nugent seems like it means we are stuck with a player that doesn't want to be here.. We should have sent him back to Derby.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 09, 2017, 09:32:00 PMNo,no,no. He does not fit our current playing style & formation. Why should SJ change things just to suit McCormack.
Talksport..Ross to Norwich in exchange for Brady is off as Norwich wanted cash + Ross.
This they say could mean the door is open for Ross to rejoin Fulham.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 09, 2017, 09:24:26 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
I'm annoyed about this. Derby buying Nugent seems like it means we are stuck with a player that doesn't want to be here.. We should have sent him back to Derby.
Do they need Vydra when they sign Nugent?
An agreement with Vydra and Martin had been perfect
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 09, 2017, 09:20:42 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
I'm annoyed about this. Derby buying Nugent seems like it means we are stuck with a player that doesn't want to be here.. We should have sent him back to Derby.
There is going to be a twist in this tale,as I said earlier Derby Telegraph says clubs still talking.
He going back IMO..
Quote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 10:24:25 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 09, 2017, 09:20:42 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 09, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
I'm annoyed about this. Derby buying Nugent seems like it means we are stuck with a player that doesn't want to be here.. We should have sent him back to Derby.
There is going to be a twist in this tale,as I said earlier Derby Telegraph says clubs still talking.
He going back IMO..
Fair enough Mince, How recently did Derby Telegraph say this? Do you have a link?
Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on January 09, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Stewart Downing on loan anyone? Apparently he has been made available for loan by Boro.
could be a useful addition as we are without Ayite for a few weeks, had a good in the championship last year as well.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 09, 2017, 11:50:26 PMQuote from: mikecdawg-ffc on January 09, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Stewart Downing on loan anyone? Apparently he has been made available for loan by Boro.
could be a useful addition as we are without Ayite for a few weeks, had a good in the championship last year as well.
He would be an ideal signing.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:10:05 AMyou had me at paceyQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
Nope, but I've heard he's very prolific. He's pacy and has a good goalscoring record in the Ö-Bundesliga, 7 goals and 3 assists, and he's been in good form in the Europa League. Only real downsides are he's small and lightweight. He's not on the radar of many other clubs so he should be available at a good price. Do I think he'd rip up the league? No, but he's much better than what we have up front.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
Quote from: Snibbo on January 10, 2017, 02:30:12 AMQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
Hmm. QPR losing their Cherry.
He's about their best player isn't he?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:30:11 AMBit like Gordon Davis then??Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:10:05 AMyou had me at paceyQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
Nope, but I've heard he's very prolific. He's pacy and has a good goalscoring record in the Ö-Bundesliga, 7 goals and 3 assists, and he's been in good form in the Europa League. Only real downsides are he's small and lightweight. He's not on the radar of many other clubs so he should be available at a good price. Do I think he'd rip up the league? No, but he's much better than what we have up front.
Quote from: Snibbo on January 10, 2017, 02:30:12 AMNice bit of asset stripping from TonyQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
Hmm. QPR losing their Cherry.
He's about their best player isn't he?
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:10:05 AMIts the Austrian Bundesliga and has 27 in 69 for Ausria ViennaQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
Nope, but I've heard he's very prolific. He's pacy and has a good goalscoring record in the Ö-Bundesliga, 7 goals and 3 assists, and he's been in good form in the Europa League. Only real downsides are he's small and lightweight. He's not on the radar of many other clubs so he should be available at a good price. Do I think he'd rip up the league? No, but he's much better than what we have up front.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 10, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
Transfer Market "Newcastle United have ended their interest in Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney after being told they would have to pay £20m to sign him."
Quote from: Roberty on January 10, 2017, 11:05:32 AMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 10, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
Transfer Market "Newcastle United have ended their interest in Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney after being told they would have to pay £20m to sign him."
That seems to be a statement of intent from our owner !
Quote from: Robertprocter1 on January 10, 2017, 11:12:15 AMQuote from: Roberty on January 10, 2017, 11:05:32 AMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 10, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
Transfer Market "Newcastle United have ended their interest in Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney after being told they would have to pay £20m to sign him."
That seems to be a statement of intent from our owner !
In the current market though and with how important he is to our team I think anything less would be ridiculous
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 10, 2017, 11:17:37 AMIt isnt us at all.Quote from: Robertprocter1 on January 10, 2017, 11:12:15 AMQuote from: Roberty on January 10, 2017, 11:05:32 AMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 10, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
Transfer Market "Newcastle United have ended their interest in Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney after being told they would have to pay £20m to sign him."
That seems to be a statement of intent from our owner !
In the current market though and with how important he is to our team I think anything less would be ridiculous
Exactly. What price for promotion? Makes the whole Martin thing frustrating, if it is us that didn't want to do the perm deal just to save a few quid we have shot ourselves in the foot.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
Quote from: Twig on January 10, 2017, 04:58:14 AMQuote from: Snibbo on January 10, 2017, 02:30:12 AMQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
Hmm. QPR losing their Cherry.
He's about their best player isn't he?
They had their cherry popped years ago.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
QPR in for Jason Cummings of Hibernian, who we were interested in the Summer Window...
The Boy looks good natural striker to me,come on Fulham he only 21,pay the 2 million they want and don't let him go to the Ha Ha's..
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:18:17 PMhe's actually gone to China. God knows what he will be earningQuote from: Twig on January 10, 2017, 04:58:14 AMQuote from: Snibbo on January 10, 2017, 02:30:12 AMQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
Hmm. QPR losing their Cherry.
He's about their best player isn't he?
They had their cherry popped years ago.
I don't think he will be cherry picked by Fulham.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
QPR in for Jason Cummings of Hibernian, who we were interested in the Summer Window...
The Boy looks good natural striker to me,come on Fulham he only 21,pay the 2 million they want and don't let him go to the Ha Ha's..
He is one player I would like to see come to Fulham, he has a good track record, and at a good age. ⚽
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:22:06 PMIt will be Bogle or Cummins not both, could also be the Larry guy mentioned but only one form the 3 of them, plus someone Martin like as well. Justa guess from me thoughQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
QPR in for Jason Cummings of Hibernian, who we were interested in the Summer Window...
The Boy looks good natural striker to me,come on Fulham he only 21,pay the 2 million they want and don't let him go to the Ha Ha's..
He is one player I would like to see come to Fulham, he has a good track record, and at a good age. ⚽
Check out his best bits clip on you tube.
Boy looks a natural goal scorer. From distance,and a good poacher.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:40:41 PMExactly, even football manager won't have any stats on him.
Who is the player in Cowdenbeath's reserves..lol
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMThats very true Ben. Although this time we dont have Rigg in charge of things, so maybe this first window without him may see things happen quicker than usual. Who knows, going to be a fun window along with the next one.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 10, 2017, 12:47:37 PMwhat odds have they got us at
Ross McCormack bookies favourite to sign for.........Brentford.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 10, 2017, 12:53:40 PMpresuming it's all down to them losing hogan. Bees fans will be gutted with that down grade. GOODQuote from: Lighthouse on January 10, 2017, 12:47:37 PMwhat odds have they got us at
Ross McCormack bookies favourite to sign for.........Brentford.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:40:41 PM
Who is the player in Cowdenbeath's reserves..lol
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:40:41 PM
Who is the player in Cowdenbeath's reserves..lol
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:13:20 PMwell we knew well before Xmas that he was off. And Derby only found out a week ago that they wouldn't get h back, and they have managed to sign a striker since then, so yes, for a club who's ambition is to reach play offs, I'd I've thought they would have got things done early. If we lose next couple of games, then we might Aswell save money for the summer, we will need it to try and replace kalas cairney and probably Johanssen too. Not to mention a bigger kitty will help attract a decent manager as I'd imagine slavisa would be off too.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Question for you: Were you expecting us to have signed a striker by now?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:20:17 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:13:20 PMwell we knew well before Xmas that he was off. And Derby only found out a week ago that they wouldn't get h back, and they have managed to sign a striker since then, so yes, for a club who's ambition is to reach play offs, I'd I've thought they would have got things done early. If we lose next couple of games, then we might Aswell save money for the summer, we will need it to try and replace kalas cairney and probably Johanssen too. Not to mention a bigger kitty will help attract a decent manager as I'd imagine slavisa would be off too.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Question for you: Were you expecting us to have signed a striker by now?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:55:53 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2017, 12:40:41 PM
Who is the player in Cowdenbeath's reserves..lol
lol
He is Jock the Kipper, a well known local fisherman, and distant relative to Whitechapels Jack The Ripper.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:25:04 PMthe summer window was good apart from the striker situation. And yes the late deal for Martin cost us badly in the summer as the September results showed us. And when I broke the news a day before the papers even got hold of it that Martin wanted out, did you think I was making it up or that even now there wasn't any truth in it? The club knew well before Xmas, as even I knew before Xmas day. And I haven't given up on promotion this season, hence the need to get a striker now, not later. And 80% is done later on, good let's be one of the 20% as we are probably the most desperate to fill a spot for our first 11. And do you really think we can hold on to our best if we finish mid table this season? We haven't in recent seasons, so why when our income would be considerably lower, do you think we will suddenly change from being a selling team to a buying one. And as for slavisa, he will have many a suitor come the summer, that's the price we will pay for our relative success this season. Let's hope he signs, but I'm not holding my breath. He would want huge assurances in my opinion, ones that I doubt Khan would follow through with.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:20:17 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:13:20 PMwell we knew well before Xmas that he was off. And Derby only found out a week ago that they wouldn't get h back, and they have managed to sign a striker since then, so yes, for a club who's ambition is to reach play offs, I'd I've thought they would have got things done early. If we lose next couple of games, then we might Aswell save money for the summer, we will need it to try and replace kalas cairney and probably Johanssen too. Not to mention a bigger kitty will help attract a decent manager as I'd imagine slavisa would be off too.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Question for you: Were you expecting us to have signed a striker by now?
Did we know that Martin wanted to leave at xmas? It was the reading game that he threw a fit and he played on boxing day, scoring, and looking pretty happy. And why are you being so negative regarding the summer? Why is it a given Cairney and Johansen will leave? How have you come to the conclusion that Slav wants to leave? We're working on a new contract, and he wants to stay. January business is 80% in the last week of the window, clubs more likely to sell. And, out of curiosity, who would you want us to sign?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:39:29 PMI think the situation regarding Martin was merely speculation at xmas. It may have been true, but it's not like the club can read his mind over the situation. As for this window, we know we're going to at the very least extend Piazon's loan because he said so, and that Slavisa has promised we would make signings. Let's save our moaning until once the window is closed so we have actual facts instead of guessing what will happen. We can't do anything about it, we are but mere supporters, we can't waltz in to Khan's office and demand that he pay 20 million to sign Rhodes or someone. All we can do is put our trust in the club which I'll do until it visibly lets me down.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:25:04 PMthe summer window was good apart from the striker situation. And yes the late deal for Martin cost us badly in the summer as the September results showed us. And when I broke the news a day before the papers even got hold of it that Martin wanted out, did you think I was making it up or that even now there wasn't any truth in it? The club knew well before Xmas, as even I knew before Xmas day. And I haven't given up on promotion this season, hence the need to get a striker now, not later. And 80% is done later on, good let's be one of the 20% as we are probably the most desperate to fill a spot for our first 11. And do you really think we can hold on to our best if we finish mid table this season? We haven't in recent seasons, so why when our income would be considerably lower, do you think we will suddenly change from being a selling team to a buying one. And as for slavisa, he will have many a suitor come the summer, that's the price we will pay for our relative success this season. Let's hope he signs, but I'm not holding my breath. He would want huge assurances in my opinion, ones that I doubt Khan would follow through with.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:20:17 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:13:20 PMwell we knew well before Xmas that he was off. And Derby only found out a week ago that they wouldn't get h back, and they have managed to sign a striker since then, so yes, for a club who's ambition is to reach play offs, I'd I've thought they would have got things done early. If we lose next couple of games, then we might Aswell save money for the summer, we will need it to try and replace kalas cairney and probably Johanssen too. Not to mention a bigger kitty will help attract a decent manager as I'd imagine slavisa would be off too.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Question for you: Were you expecting us to have signed a striker by now?
Did we know that Martin wanted to leave at xmas? It was the reading game that he threw a fit and he played on boxing day, scoring, and looking pretty happy. And why are you being so negative regarding the summer? Why is it a given Cairney and Johansen will leave? How have you come to the conclusion that Slav wants to leave? We're working on a new contract, and he wants to stay. January business is 80% in the last week of the window, clubs more likely to sell. And, out of curiosity, who would you want us to sign?
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:51:22 PMread his mind? He told them Derby offered him new contract and he wanted to leave. Granted they couldn't have known he was going on strike, but according to Rigg he was 100% returning to Derby in this window.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:39:29 PMI think the situation regarding Martin was merely speculation at xmas. It may have been true, but it's not like the club can read his mind over the situation. As for this window, we know we're going to at the very least extend Piazon's loan because he said so, and that Slavisa has promised we would make signings. Let's save our moaning until once the window is closed so we have actual facts instead of guessing what will happen. We can't do anything about it, we are but mere supporters, we can't waltz in to Khan's office and demand that he pay 20 million to sign Rhodes or someone. All we can do is put our trust in the club which I'll do until it visibly lets me down.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:25:04 PMthe summer window was good apart from the striker situation. And yes the late deal for Martin cost us badly in the summer as the September results showed us. And when I broke the news a day before the papers even got hold of it that Martin wanted out, did you think I was making it up or that even now there wasn't any truth in it? The club knew well before Xmas, as even I knew before Xmas day. And I haven't given up on promotion this season, hence the need to get a striker now, not later. And 80% is done later on, good let's be one of the 20% as we are probably the most desperate to fill a spot for our first 11. And do you really think we can hold on to our best if we finish mid table this season? We haven't in recent seasons, so why when our income would be considerably lower, do you think we will suddenly change from being a selling team to a buying one. And as for slavisa, he will have many a suitor come the summer, that's the price we will pay for our relative success this season. Let's hope he signs, but I'm not holding my breath. He would want huge assurances in my opinion, ones that I doubt Khan would follow through with.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:20:17 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 01:13:20 PMwell we knew well before Xmas that he was off. And Derby only found out a week ago that they wouldn't get h back, and they have managed to sign a striker since then, so yes, for a club who's ambition is to reach play offs, I'd I've thought they would have got things done early. If we lose next couple of games, then we might Aswell save money for the summer, we will need it to try and replace kalas cairney and probably Johanssen too. Not to mention a bigger kitty will help attract a decent manager as I'd imagine slavisa would be off too.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMnot sure what you are trying to say here. Are you are saying you are fine that for 6 and a half weeks of this season that a strike force of Smith Woodrow and Humphrys is exceptable? And that you are happy to go with those 3 till the end of the season? We know we had money to buy Martin so surely that money, minus loan fee is still there. Either we are going for play offs this season or we are not. If we are then we need a striker now, not on the 31st. Look how long it took Martin to get up to speed, the later we leave it the more points we will inevitably drop. And yes this is last season of parachute payments, which means if we fail to reach top 6 this season, we will probably lose some of our best talent again in the summer.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Question for you: Were you expecting us to have signed a striker by now?
Did we know that Martin wanted to leave at xmas? It was the reading game that he threw a fit and he played on boxing day, scoring, and looking pretty happy. And why are you being so negative regarding the summer? Why is it a given Cairney and Johansen will leave? How have you come to the conclusion that Slav wants to leave? We're working on a new contract, and he wants to stay. January business is 80% in the last week of the window, clubs more likely to sell. And, out of curiosity, who would you want us to sign?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
The longer we stay in this Division the more likely we will lose our better players. It's imperative we go for a top six place now whatever it takes, as well if course the obvious financial rewards. The football we are playing deserves to be up there and we must seize the opportunity to grab a top six place, and ensure we have a reinforced squad for the remainder of the season.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 02:04:50 PMindeed it is, but it also shows ambition to the manager and players. Finishing mid table does not.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
The longer we stay in this Division the more likely we will lose our better players. It's imperative we go for a top six place now whatever it takes, as well if course the obvious financial rewards. The football we are playing deserves to be up there and we must seize the opportunity to grab a top six place, and ensure we have a reinforced squad for the remainder of the season.
Even if we get 3-6th it's not a given we'll go up. We have a 25% chance effectively
Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 02:07:44 PMFair enoughQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 02:04:50 PMindeed it is, but it also shows ambition to the manager and players. Finishing mid table does not.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
The longer we stay in this Division the more likely we will lose our better players. It's imperative we go for a top six place now whatever it takes, as well if course the obvious financial rewards. The football we are playing deserves to be up there and we must seize the opportunity to grab a top six place, and ensure we have a reinforced squad for the remainder of the season.
Even if we get 3-6th it's not a given we'll go up. We have a 25% chance effectively
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 02:04:50 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
The longer we stay in this Division the more likely we will lose our better players. It's imperative we go for a top six place now whatever it takes, as well if course the obvious financial rewards. The football we are playing deserves to be up there and we must seize the opportunity to grab a top six place, and ensure we have a reinforced squad for the remainder of the season.
Even if we get 3-6th it's not a given we'll go up. We have a 25% chance effectively
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:58:51 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:45:48 PMLook, this is the first season in which I've had any sort of optimism, and I've only been a fan for about four years. How could we have known Martin was gonna throw a fit? How do we know that the various strikers that are and were on offer are not having ridiculous price tags on them? For example Kodjia for 15m which is a joke. I agree we should be showing ambition in the market but that doesn't mean going full out Chinese Super League when buying players. We already had an FFP last season, and the parachute payments are ending. Do we really want to be plunged into financial trouble? Take the fools down the road at the bush, throwing a lot of money doesn't always get you where you want to be long term. Sure, they got promoted, but then what? Immediate relegation and becoming the whipping boys of the championship, resorting to asset stripping which Fernandes is doing as we speak to their squad. Look at the Prem teams that were promoted relatively recently like Bournemouth Watford and West Brom who are now somewhat established. Did they splash the cash in the championship, or did they spend a few years building their squads, spending wisely on players who have developed since? We all want to be back in the Prem but if we want to stay there we have to be patient. And I myself was happy with our Summer window in general.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PMWe said that in the summer. Went two months without a striker and ended up with Martin. Your faith is a lot stronger than mine. Especially as rivals are already strengthening.Quote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:31:37 PMS001.gif Ben, it was just a suggestion. And we've got plenty of time left in the window, I trust our management to come up with the goods.Quote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:27:18 PMso it's decided then, he is the player we will all pin our hopes on, of which we willl miss out on him for the sake of not paying an extra ten grand, only to end up with some crap Scottish player who is a reserve at Cowdenbeath that no one has ever heard of. Right let's close this thread nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 12:16:30 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 10, 2017, 12:18:24 AMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 10, 2017, 12:03:12 AMI've got to ask, as I'd never even heard of him till now, have you seen him play?
Would definitely have Kayode
He has electric pace, when I say that, it's real genuine pace, and he would be a good addition.
Also got good passing ability which would work with our style of play
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on January 09, 2017, 11:59:24 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
That's a shame, they were looking good for relegation. And as if it needs saying but a massive NO to all 3 of those.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 10, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
The longer we stay in this Division the more likely we will lose our better players. It's imperative we go for a top six place now whatever it takes, as well if course the obvious financial rewards. The football we are playing deserves to be up there and we must seize the opportunity to grab a top six place, and ensure we have a reinforced squad for the remainder of the season.
Quote from: Riversider on January 10, 2017, 04:19:46 PM:plus one: Then this thread would be about six pages, does seem to be a lack or real transfer rumours. 049:gif
Would be nice to have a transfer thread that just deals with links and speculation , and all the idle chit chat could then take place in its own thread.
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Quote from: f321ffc on January 10, 2017, 04:23:23 PMSorry, my bad :Get Coat gif:Quote from: Riversider on January 10, 2017, 04:19:46 PM:plus one: Then this thread would be about six pages, does seem to be a lack or real transfer rumours. 049:gif
Would be nice to have a transfer thread that just deals with links and speculation , and all the idle chit chat could then take place in its own thread.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on January 10, 2017, 12:47:37 PMJust seen in The Mirror that Brentford are lining up Sam Winnall from Barnsley to replace Hogan.
Ross McCormack bookies favourite to sign for.........Brentford.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 10, 2017, 07:28:10 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 10, 2017, 12:47:37 PMJust seen in The Mirror that Brentford are lining up Sam Winnall from Barnsley to replace Hogan.
Ross McCormack bookies favourite to sign for.........Brentford.
I have been banging on about him for a while. great in the air and fast on the ground he would be idea at the £3m fee being mentioned.
I will be furious if we let this happen without our own challenge,
If he goes to Brentford he will be a Nemesis to us for years to come.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 10, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Fulham give Kayode a look in
As chase for the promotion ticket became hotter in the English Cahampionship, one of the promotion hopeful Fulham FC are looking to strengthen their attack thereby are considering a move for former Nigeria youth international Kayode Olarewaju.
Kayode who has been in a blistering form since the commencement of the season and has caught the eye of European scouts with a series of outstanding displays for the Austrian club in the Europa League this season. He netted 14 goals in 32 appearances for Austria Vienna this season.
The Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic has not hidden his intention to have Kayode whom he claimed he has been following him since his days with Maccabi Netanya in 2013, where he scored 10 goals in 25 league appearances, that paved the way for a permanent move to Israel.
Kayode followed that with 13 goals in 31 league appearances before moving to Austria Vienna on a four-year deal in August 2015.
The striker has been one of the player been given serious consideration for a Super Eagles call-up in the team subsequent.
Quote from: BedsFFC on January 10, 2017, 10:11:21 PMQuote from: f321ffc on January 10, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Fulham give Kayode a look in
As chase for the promotion ticket became hotter in the English Cahampionship, one of the promotion hopeful Fulham FC are looking to strengthen their attack thereby are considering a move for former Nigeria youth international Kayode Olarewaju.
Kayode who has been in a blistering form since the commencement of the season and has caught the eye of European scouts with a series of outstanding displays for the Austrian club in the Europa League this season. He netted 14 goals in 32 appearances for Austria Vienna this season.
The Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic has not hidden his intention to have Kayode whom he claimed he has been following him since his days with Maccabi Netanya in 2013, where he scored 10 goals in 25 league appearances, that paved the way for a permanent move to Israel.
Kayode followed that with 13 goals in 31 league appearances before moving to Austria Vienna on a four-year deal in August 2015.
The striker has been one of the player been given serious consideration for a Super Eagles call-up in the team subsequent.
I know nothing about him but I want him
Quote from: @jolslover on January 10, 2017, 03:51:59 PMQuote from: Sgt Fulham on January 09, 2017, 11:59:24 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
Hmm qpr selling cherry Poulter and Sandro. Cutting their cloth or freeing up cash.
That's a shame, they were looking good for relegation. And as if it needs saying but a massive NO to all 3 of those.
How come? Wouldn't take Polter but he is better than what we've got at the moment. Chery is a good player and Sandro is a prem level DM. Would definitely take the latter two
Quote from: BedsFFC on January 10, 2017, 10:14:44 PMYes, we must give our players as much 'ButterBread' as they want. Such a shame when they have to survive on just alibikicker :(
This is what the Vienna fans are saying...
Minimum 4 Mille, otherwise I would not let him go. I'm tired of letting our players almost always have a butterbread, while other clubs alibikicker many times.
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 11, 2017, 12:38:27 AM
Hull look like being stronger for our cup tie
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38577591 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38577591)
Everton have agreed to loan striker Oumar Niasse, 26, to Hull, with personal terms still to be agreed.
The Senegal international signed for £13.5m from Lokomotiv Moscow in February 2016 but has played only seven times for the Toffees
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 10, 2017, 07:28:10 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 10, 2017, 12:47:37 PMJust seen in The Mirror that Brentford are lining up Sam Winnall from Barnsley to replace Hogan.
Ross McCormack bookies favourite to sign for.........Brentford.
I have been banging on about him for a while. great in the air and fast on the ground he would be idea at the £3m fee being mentioned.
I will be furious if we let this happen without our own challenge,
If he goes to Brentford he will be a Nemesis to us for years to come.
Quote from: ffc2004 on January 11, 2017, 08:29:25 AMAgain, think we have in the last few windows now. Is he the new Carlton Cole or David Bentley
Fulham linked with Chuba Akpom from Arsenal...
Quote from: ffc2004 on January 11, 2017, 08:29:25 AM
Fulham linked with Chuba Akpom from Arsenal...
Quote from: FFC73 on January 11, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Fulham supporting friend of mine living in Glasgow is telling me: -
Papers up here this morning confirm that Celtic have given us permission to speak to Nir Bitton about a move. He is a classy player, tall and quite elegant on the ball but also a bit languid and I've always thought there's a bit of the Ruiz aboiut him. He would definitely fit in with our style of play but might have to toughen up a bit. I think a target man is a more pressing need.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 11, 2017, 10:22:27 AMQuote from: FFC73 on January 11, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Fulham supporting friend of mine living in Glasgow is telling me: -
Papers up here this morning confirm that Celtic have given us permission to speak to Nir Bitton about a move. He is a classy player, tall and quite elegant on the ball but also a bit languid and I've always thought there's a bit of the Ruiz aboiut him. He would definitely fit in with our style of play but might have to toughen up a bit. I think a target man is a more pressing need.
Massively excited about this one. You only have to watch the first 10 seconds of his YouTube highlights to see his class. Seems like another Johansen situ where he lost a bit of form and can't get in Rogers team. Linked with a 10m move to Arsenal only a year ago. Not a position we are crying out for but adds quality no doubt and could be great in a Slav team. Striker and CB are the ones we need fixing yesterday!
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 11, 2017, 10:24:18 AMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 11, 2017, 10:22:27 AMQuote from: FFC73 on January 11, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Fulham supporting friend of mine living in Glasgow is telling me: -
Papers up here this morning confirm that Celtic have given us permission to speak to Nir Bitton about a move. He is a classy player, tall and quite elegant on the ball but also a bit languid and I've always thought there's a bit of the Ruiz aboiut him. He would definitely fit in with our style of play but might have to toughen up a bit. I think a target man is a more pressing need.
Massively excited about this one. You only have to watch the first 10 seconds of his YouTube highlights to see his class. Seems like another Johansen situ where he lost a bit of form and can't get in Rogers team. Linked with a 10m move to Arsenal only a year ago. Not a position we are crying out for but adds quality no doubt and could be great in a Slav team. Striker and CB are the ones we need fixing yesterday!
Would take Bitton in a heartbeat, heard he has an attitude problem though
Quote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 11:10:16 AMTom Ince? Thought he was already their player.
Derby interested in Ince, from Sky Sports online transfer live thingy
Quote from: f321ffc on January 11, 2017, 11:16:52 AMhes been linked with Newcastle...but then again who hasn't?Quote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 11:10:16 AMTom Ince? Thought he was already their player.
Derby interested in Ince, from Sky Sports online transfer live thingy
Quote from: f321ffc on January 11, 2017, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 11:10:16 AMTom Ince? Thought he was already their player.
Derby interested in Ince, from Sky Sports online transfer live thingy
Quote from: f321ffc on January 11, 2017, 11:16:52 AMSorry I meant to type Derby's Tom Ince linked with Newcastle , from Sky Sports online transfer live thingyQuote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 11:10:16 AMTom Ince? Thought he was already their player.
Derby interested in Ince, from Sky Sports online transfer live thingy
Quote from: cmg on January 11, 2017, 11:25:21 AMNice one!Quote from: f321ffc on January 11, 2017, 11:16:52 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 11:10:16 AMTom Ince? Thought he was already their player.
Derby interested in Ince, from Sky Sports online transfer live thingy
Sure he is...but they're keen on tapping up their own players.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 11, 2017, 11:31:43 AMI'll get my car ready
Transfer Centre 9 @TransferCentre9
Southend United have enquired about the possible signing of Fulham forward Matt Smith #sufc #ffc
Quote from: f321ffc on January 11, 2017, 11:31:43 AMMy local club Southend, interesting as they have Nile Ranger, perhaps they are not convinced he will avoid a prison term in his current court case.
Transfer Centre 9 @TransferCentre9
Southend United have enquired about the possible signing of Fulham forward Matt Smith #sufc #ffc
Quote from: AnEssexFan on January 11, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
Not sure I'm keen on the move for Bitton. He won't leave celtic to come and sit on our bench, so who do we drop put of McDonald, Cairney or Johansen? Or, more worryingly, is one of those three leaving and Bitton being used to replace them?
Quote from: AnEssexFan on January 11, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
Not sure I'm keen on the move for Bitton. He won't leave celtic to come and sit on our bench, so who do we drop put of McDonald, Cairney or Johansen? Or, more worryingly, is one of those three leaving and Bitton being used to replace them?
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 11, 2017, 12:41:57 PMQuote from: AnEssexFan on January 11, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
Not sure I'm keen on the move for Bitton. He won't leave celtic to come and sit on our bench, so who do we drop put of McDonald, Cairney or Johansen? Or, more worryingly, is one of those three leaving and Bitton being used to replace them?
I don't keep up to date with football or footballers as much as I used to so I'd never heard of him until now.
Looked him up on you tube and in his early Israeli club stuff he looked a bit gangley and awkward but in recent Celtic coverage he's beefed up and looks fitter and stronger.
Just from youtube he looks classy, likes a 25 yarder and is good with his head, Oh! and he can take a penalty !
On what Iv'e seen he looks like an asset worth having.
Quote from: FPT on January 11, 2017, 12:10:05 PMQuote from: AnEssexFan on January 11, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
Not sure I'm keen on the move for Bitton. He won't leave celtic to come and sit on our bench, so who do we drop put of McDonald, Cairney or Johansen? Or, more worryingly, is one of those three leaving and Bitton being used to replace them?
We can not have just a starting eleven in this division. Competition is a good thing, and in my opinion, Bitton is a better player than Kevin McDonald.
If Kevin McDonald gets injured, our game is vastly damaged seeing as he's the main link between defence and midfield in possession; Scott Parker simply can not do that job to close to the same standard.
Bitton's size is something we don't have in midfield; he's 6ft 5 but with the same technical ability as everyone else. How great would that be for the last 15-20 minutes in games when the majority of Championship sides go a little more direct? He's athletic too, my biggest gripe with McDonald is his inability to move either quickly or smoothly - he's very 'counter-ble.'
The majority of teams at the top of the table have strength in depth - this would simply be improving ours which is absolutely 100% something we need to do.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 11, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
The Mirror today "Fulham risk losing manager Slavisa Jokanovic to Werder Bremen after contract stand-off"
http://bit.ly/2ifTPFi (http://bit.ly/2ifTPFi)
Quote from: FFC73 on January 11, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Fulham supporting friend of mine living in Glasgow is telling me: -
Papers up here this morning confirm that Celtic have given us permission to speak to Nir Bitton about a move. He is a classy player, tall and quite elegant on the ball but also a bit languid and I've always thought there's a bit of the Ruiz aboiut him. He would definitely fit in with our style of play but might have to toughen up a bit. I think a target man is a more pressing need.
Quote from: Holders on January 11, 2017, 02:15:15 PMQuite, I think some of these journalists should be "looking in the mirror"!Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 11, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
The Mirror today "Fulham risk losing manager Slavisa Jokanovic to Werder Bremen after contract stand-off"
http://bit.ly/2ifTPFi (http://bit.ly/2ifTPFi)
A "contract stand-off" where "formal talks have yet to begin"!
Quote from: mkras99 on January 11, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2686203-inside-the-window-dimitri-payet-could-yet-leave-west-ham-despite-club-stance/page/5 (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2686203-inside-the-window-dimitri-payet-could-yet-leave-west-ham-despite-club-stance/page/5)
Fulham are continuing their search for a new striker and will sound out Bournemouth over Lewis Grabban's availability.
Brighton also want to sign him, so the two Championship sides are expected to battle for his signature if the Cherries agree to let him leave on loan.
Grabban is in his second spell at Bournemouth, but since heading back last January, he has struggled to make an impact.
Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic will sign a new forward this month and is determined to ensure he gets a man with the exact traits to suit his side's style of play.
Grabban has a good Championship record with 35 goals from 90 appearances and should prove a realistic target as he has not featured in the Premier League for Bournemouth since August.
Fulham are also looking for a central defender but have been knocked back after enquiring about a loan deal for Middlesbrough's Daniel Ayala.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 11, 2017, 05:40:16 PMSo .... The deal is done then
RE Bremen Slav link -Werder DoF Frank Baumann: "I've never even heard the name Slavisa Jokanovic before. I don't know him."
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 11, 2017, 02:47:38 PMQuote from: FFC73 on January 11, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Fulham supporting friend of mine living in Glasgow is telling me: -
Papers up here this morning confirm that Celtic have given us permission to speak to Nir Bitton about a move. He is a classy player, tall and quite elegant on the ball but also a bit languid and I've always thought there's a bit of the Ruiz aboiut him. He would definitely fit in with our style of play but might have to toughen up a bit. I think a target man is a more pressing need.
When's the last time this has been said about a player coming out of Scotland?
Quote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
Sky sports online transfer live thingy says ourselves, Leeds and Brighton are looking at Grabban
Quote from: westcliff white on January 11, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
Sky sports online transfer live thingy says ourselves, Leeds and Brighton are looking at Grabban
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 11, 2017, 11:01:55 PMSo, we might 'Grabban' for a bargain then?
He has a decent record, he is a good 6 feet tall and I believe Bournemouth signed him for around 8 million English pounds. Hasn't quite worked out for him at Bournemouth, but definately fits the profile.
Quote from: FPT on January 11, 2017, 11:40:25 PMWith these 2 added to the side and signed permanently, we would have fixed our main areas to improve enormously and would be in a position to really give it a go now. If we missed out this season, we would be in a fantastic position to make the automatic places next season.
The key for me is looking back to his season at Bournemouth prior to moving to Norwich. Eddie Howe's Bournemouth a very similar to our side now in terms of style: open, exciting, attacking, dominant and creating of chances. In that team, Lewis Grabban was only outscored by Ross McCormack, Jordan Rhodes and Troy Deeney with a more than respectable 22 in 44 games, 7 of which being from the penalty spot. Oh, and they finished 10th that season. He's not really played consistently since then, but in our team, I think it would be conservative to predict him scoring ten.
Daniel Ayala rumour is promising - recall him being the best defender in the division whilst at Middlesbrough but been pushed out since promotion and Ben Gibson has slid into the Premier League with ease and grace.
I do agree with whoever commented on loans, I don't mind it as much in January but rather not go in that direction at centre back in particular - with zero guarantees on getting either permanently, you're looking at buying an entirely new centre back partnership in the summer.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 12, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Oddschanger on twitter: Fulham now 1/2 favourites to sign Lewis Grabban
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 12, 2017, 12:35:47 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 12, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Oddschanger on twitter: Fulham now 1/2 favourites to sign Lewis Grabban
If we got Grabban, Bitton and a decent CB in this window I'd be over the moon.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 12, 2017, 12:35:47 PMSomeone like Heurtaux or Maguire or Ayala and I'll be well pleased.Quote from: Hoppus on January 12, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Oddschanger on twitter: Fulham now 1/2 favourites to sign Lewis Grabban
If we got Grabban, Bitton and a decent CB in this window I'd be over the moon.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 12, 2017, 01:57:14 PMYep, death knell for Nir Bitton's Celtic career. Let's just hope we snap him up before Espanyol.
DONE DEAL: Celtic have signed 19-year-old midfielder Kouassi Eboue from Krasnodar on a four-year deal.
Maybe this opens the door to us getting the Celtic midfielder we were linked with last week.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 12, 2017, 01:57:14 PM
DONE DEAL: Celtic have signed 19-year-old midfielder Kouassi Eboue from Krasnodar on a four-year deal.
Maybe this opens the door to us getting the Celtic midfielder we were linked with last week.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 12, 2017, 01:39:47 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 12, 2017, 12:35:47 PMSomeone like Heurtaux or Maguire or Ayala and I'll be well pleased.Quote from: Hoppus on January 12, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Oddschanger on twitter: Fulham now 1/2 favourites to sign Lewis Grabban
If we got Grabban, Bitton and a decent CB in this window I'd be over the moon.
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 12, 2017, 02:31:46 PMSilver lining is that he won't play us on Saturday
sam winnall looks like he's signed for sheff weds for 500k. Can't help but think that's a missed opportunity for that kind of money. 11 goals this season as well.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 12, 2017, 02:38:06 PMDefoe's not happening. If West Ham can't buy him what chance do we stand
I will be happy with SJ signing a long deal and maybe Defoe!!
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 12, 2017, 02:33:01 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 12, 2017, 02:31:46 PMSilver lining is that he won't play us on Saturday
sam winnall looks like he's signed for sheff weds for 500k. Can't help but think that's a missed opportunity for that kind of money. 11 goals this season as well.
Quote from: Statto on January 12, 2017, 03:26:46 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 12, 2017, 01:39:47 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 12, 2017, 12:35:47 PMSomeone like Heurtaux or Maguire or Ayala and I'll be well pleased.Quote from: Hoppus on January 12, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Oddschanger on twitter: Fulham now 1/2 favourites to sign Lewis Grabban
If we got Grabban, Bitton and a decent CB in this window I'd be over the moon.
+1
Quote from: @jolslover on January 12, 2017, 04:55:04 PM
Jozabed seen at Stansted airport. Going back to Spain I presume
Quote from: @jolslover on January 12, 2017, 04:55:04 PM
Jozabed seen at Stansted airport. Going back to Spain I presume
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 12, 2017, 05:36:22 PMI once met Peter Crouch on an easyjet flight from Malaga.Quote from: @jolslover on January 12, 2017, 04:55:04 PM
Jozabed seen at Stansted airport. Going back to Spain I presume
I cant see Jozabed getting a Ryanair flight to Malaga somehow
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 12, 2017, 02:31:46 PMDeffo a missed opportunity.
sam winnall looks like he's signed for sheff weds for 500k. Can't help but think that's a missed opportunity for that kind of money. 11 goals this season as well.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 12, 2017, 08:08:33 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 12, 2017, 02:31:46 PMDeffo a missed opportunity.
sam winnall looks like he's signed for sheff weds for 500k. Can't help but think that's a missed opportunity for that kind of money. 11 goals this season as well.
I have been suggesting him as target for us for months.
At least he didn't go to Brentford as as muted earlier in the week.
Looks like he favours the north.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 12, 2017, 04:55:04 PM
Jozabed seen at Stansted airport. Going back to Spain I presume
Quote from: kempkong on January 13, 2017, 07:02:38 AMBecause they have just come down, their parachute payments are huge
Villa can piss off. I would accept Newcastle or a prem team but villa have no more chance of getting promoted than us. Surely villa will be hit by an embargo for their spending?
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Quote from: kempkong on January 13, 2017, 07:44:43 AM
Then how did it hit us in the first year? Villa haven't even sold like Newcastle have to allow for the spending. The sooner they get rid of ffp the better. It's just hurting clubs more than stopping overspending. (85 million on pogba for example)
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2017, 06:46:09 AM
Sky....Villa preparing bid for Cairney.
Quote from: BedsFFC on January 13, 2017, 08:16:41 AMAnd at the same time get Matt Smith to write him a love letter.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2017, 06:46:09 AM
Sky....Villa preparing bid for Cairney.
Right, quick, get Giacomo Marshall out of school, give him 3 x £1 coins and get him down to Motspur Park sharpish. Perhaps, encourage him to have a few tears
Quote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AMApparently he was Slavs signing
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Quote from: Statto on January 13, 2017, 08:21:09 AMNah, they'll just do as QPR did and ignore it! Tis only mugs like us they get done!Quote from: westcliff white on January 13, 2017, 08:07:41 AMQuote from: kempkong on January 13, 2017, 07:44:43 AM
Then how did it hit us in the first year? Villa haven't even sold like Newcastle have to allow for the spending. The sooner they get rid of ffp the better. It's just hurting clubs more than stopping overspending. (85 million on pogba for example)
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I don't think we were hit for the first year. As for Man Utd they generate so much income that they are never going to be in trouble. Apparently the could spend 500 million thus summer and still be under. Incredible really but they are global like Madrid and Barca etc
We were hit for the first year, 2014/15. But the championship limit was lower then (£8m instead of £13m) and if my understanding is correct, then if Villa have spent less than the premiership limit (£35m) in the preceding season(s) then they can effectively carry over that "credit" under the 3-yr system. Overall I agree through, their spending is ridiculous, so I wouldn't be surprised for it to catch up with them and for them either to get sanctioned eventually (or be forced into a fire sale and penny pinching to comply)
Quote from: westcliff white on January 13, 2017, 10:23:31 AMOh well we all make mistakes.Quote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AMApparently he was Slavs signing
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 13, 2017, 10:45:09 AM
Jozabed now officially at Celta. Photo on their official twitter.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 10:47:42 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 13, 2017, 10:23:31 AMOh well we all make mistakes.Quote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AMApparently he was Slavs signing
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Football Club @FulhamFC
#FFC can confirm that Jozabed has joined Celta Vigo for the remainder of the season >
Quote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AM
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Quote from: Statto on January 13, 2017, 10:54:18 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 13, 2017, 10:23:31 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AMApparently he was Slavs signing
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Apparent from...?
If the source of this is still just MJG, I'm still sceptical. No offence MJG ;)
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 13, 2017, 08:21:28 AM
And at the same time get Matt Smith to write him a love letter.
Quote from: Statto on January 13, 2017, 10:54:18 AMNone taken , but then we know that every player who is a sucess is a SJ player and every failure is a stats player dont we Statto?Quote from: westcliff white on January 13, 2017, 10:23:31 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AMApparently he was Slavs signing
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Apparent from...?
If the source of this is still just MJG, I'm still sceptical. No offence MJG ;)
Quote from: MJG on January 13, 2017, 12:15:49 PMQuote from: Statto on January 13, 2017, 10:54:18 AMNone taken , but then we know that every player who is a sucess is a SJ player and every failure is a stats player dont we Statto?Quote from: westcliff white on January 13, 2017, 10:23:31 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 13, 2017, 08:22:33 AMApparently he was Slavs signing
Jozabed on a 18 month loan to Celta Vigo 18 months? hope we got a good fee, obviously not in Slavs plans so who's idea was it to sign him?
Apparent from...?
If the source of this is still just MJG, I'm still sceptical. No offence MJG ;)
Quote from: dhowells21 on January 13, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Surely its also Khan's fault as well no?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Marek Rodak joins Accrington Stanley.
Quote from: cmg on January 14, 2017, 07:22:58 PM
Lucas Piazon @LucasPiazon 2h2 hours ago
Loan spell ending tomorrow but monday I should be signing the extension!
(Not really a rumour, I suppose.)
Quote from: westcliff white on January 14, 2017, 07:54:01 PM
I believe that's correct 2 loans from anyone team
Quote from: mancwhite on January 15, 2017, 08:17:56 AM
Great performance yesterday, whilst folk are raving about Martin,Johansen and Plazzon were fantastic for me. But a possession based team need a centre forward with more mobility than Martin. Likewise when Barnsley ran at us we looked a bit sort in midfield.Malone and Fredricks going forward are good but at times vulnerable defending. So desperate for another centre forward whether Martin stays or not. Wouldn't mind another Papa Doc in midfield. I think Ruiz would have loved playing in this team
Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 15, 2017, 12:45:26 PM
Jozabed says he wants Celta to exercise their option to buy at the end of the season, and that his move was down to a lack of opportunities not adaptation.
Shame that Slavisa don't want to play him then, could have been excellent for us. Hopefully we get back the full €4m we paid for him at least.
http://www.football-espana.net/62430/jozabed-eyes-long-celta-stay?mobile=off (http://www.football-espana.net/62430/jozabed-eyes-long-celta-stay?mobile=off)
Quote from: Statto on January 15, 2017, 01:45:53 PM
Jozabed: "Fulham? It was more down to a lack of opportunities than a lack of adaptation. When you see that your Coach doesn't count on you, you still train to the maximum for when the Coach needs you, but your head also drops."
Sorry but I'm not having it that it was Slavisa that wanted this player when we signed him.
As for Cairney, if he goes to Villa he'll be in this division next year (surprised they've even got the cheek to contemplate signing him to be honest) and if he goes to Newcastle then he'll be on the bench when they flood the team with £30m signings from Europe. The only was I can see him going is if it's to someone like Burnley or a newly-promoted Brighton for example.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 15, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
I really really hope we can manage to keep Joca. But i can see him leaving if we dont go up. I think ill actually cry!
Quote from: Statto on January 15, 2017, 02:08:20 PMExactly. I'm sick of people licking the 'big' teams' backsides even when in reality they're on the same level abilitywiseQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 01:50:48 PM
Why wouldn't a club like Villa bid for him.
They are a huge club with large following who have won major trophies..
You talk as they were non league or whatever,cheek of contemplating signing him?
You sound like one of these Leeds or Forest fans on about the distant past. I've literally had to wikipedia Villa to see what they've won, it was that long ago. Last time they won a major trophy was 10 yrs before Cairney was even born. They ain't a big club now. Their gates will drop next year. Revenues are already probably less than ours given London pricing. People seem to forget we were in the Premiership for the best part of a generation and European cup finalists a few years ago. Bottom line is they're below us in the table and not going up this year... so why would Cairney leave is for them? More chance of us signing their best player than the other way around.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 04:20:54 PMI trend to agree with you Mince but maybe its just those of a certain age. Those 25/30 and below may not remember villa as I do for instance. For me they were / are a big club always have been. They are having a rough period and this season hasn't been good, so for me ability wise they are on the same level as us maybe slightly below, size wise and historically they are bigger than us (as much as I hate saying it).
I don't give two monkeys to be honest about them I Love FFC.
But for someone to say they had to Wikipedia Villa is a joke, they are a big club with fan clubs worldwide.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 15, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
I really really hope we can manage to keep Joca. But i can see him leaving if we dont go up. I think ill actually cry!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 04:20:54 PMthe ole fan clubs around the world comments again. which in the real world equates to a bunch of jolly foreigners going down the pub at weird hours to watch the football together.
I don't give two monkeys to be honest about them I Love FFC.
But for someone to say they had to Wikipedia Villa is a joke, they are a big club with fan clubs worldwide.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 01:40:47 PMThe possibility of losing Cairney has to be seriously addressed by the club, losing him would be so bad for us as he is the hub of our midfield which is performing so well, lose Cairney and a key team player is missing.
Radio....Newcastle and Villa preparing bids for Cairney,after another excellent performance from the Cottagers midfielder.
Stay strong Fulham, no way can we let him go.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 15, 2017, 05:21:33 PMthat's a pretty simplistic view, when there are large British ex pat communities around the globe.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 04:20:54 PMthe ole fan clubs around the world comments again. which in the real world equates to a bunch of jolly foreigners going down the pub at weird hours to watch the football together.
I don't give two monkeys to be honest about them I Love FFC.
But for someone to say they had to Wikipedia Villa is a joke, they are a big club with fan clubs worldwide.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 15, 2017, 05:29:52 PMbut other than that, what do actual fan clubs do? maybe a visit for the odd, game and all that. but in general, they are just that. fans around the world. doesnt help villa one bit with their current plightQuote from: fulhamben on January 15, 2017, 05:21:33 PMthat's a pretty simplistic view, when there are large British ex pat communities around the globe.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 04:20:54 PMthe ole fan clubs around the world comments again. which in the real world equates to a bunch of jolly foreigners going down the pub at weird hours to watch the football together.
I don't give two monkeys to be honest about them I Love FFC.
But for someone to say they had to Wikipedia Villa is a joke, they are a big club with fan clubs worldwide.
That aside, this is the transfer thread so can we all (including myself) keep this thread about transfers. thanks
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 01:40:47 PM
Retaining Cairney should take priority over buying a new striker or central defender.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on January 15, 2017, 06:22:53 PM
So the latest transfer rumours are?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 06:38:45 PM
Forest want ex Brighton and Watford manager Oscar Garcia.
Quote from: TerryR on January 15, 2017, 08:05:07 PMNot quite.....Mince has asked where our next striker is?
I just tuned in here after taking a break from this thread given the lack of any transfer activity
Still nothing happening
Quote from: Wearethewhites on January 15, 2017, 03:31:02 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on January 15, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
I really really hope we can manage to keep Joca. But i can see him leaving if we dont go up. I think ill actually cry!
Absolute nonsense. This is his first real season of having 'a go at it' if that's the correct term to use, last season he was here just to keep us in the division.
We know, he knows, the Club knows, that 1 season alone would not be enough to turn this club into a promotion challenging side, not with 14 wholesale changes.
Regardless of his track record, Jokanovic publicly stated that he wanted to be he for the long term, he was fed up of moving around, and genuinely believe, he enjoyed his time in the UK with Watford.
Only way I can see him leaving is if a) the Club fook up a new contract, or b) he's not backed by the Club with the 3-4 decent signings, which is what I feel is needed, to gain promotion.
Even then, I don't feel this will happen until the summer.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 15, 2017, 08:33:00 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on January 15, 2017, 03:31:02 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on January 15, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
I really really hope we can manage to keep Joca. But i can see him leaving if we dont go up. I think ill actually cry!
Absolute nonsense. This is his first real season of having 'a go at it' if that's the correct term to use, last season he was here just to keep us in the division.
We know, he knows, the Club knows, that 1 season alone would not be enough to turn this club into a promotion challenging side, not with 14 wholesale changes.
Regardless of his track record, Jokanovic publicly stated that he wanted to be he for the long term, he was fed up of moving around, and genuinely believe, he enjoyed his time in the UK with Watford.
Only way I can see him leaving is if a) the Club fook up a new contract, or b) he's not backed by the Club with the 3-4 decent signings, which is what I feel is needed, to gain promotion.
Even then, I don't feel this will happen until the summer.
I dont think he will go before the summer. However, if we arent promoted (still a tall order imo) and he's out of contract then i believe he will go
Quote from: fulhamben on January 15, 2017, 05:21:33 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2017, 04:20:54 PMthe ole fan clubs around the world comments again. which in the real world equates to a bunch of jolly foreigners going down the pub at weird hours to watch the football together.
I don't give two monkeys to be honest about them I Love FFC.
But for someone to say they had to Wikipedia Villa is a joke, they are a big club with fan clubs worldwide.
Quote from: mkras99 on January 16, 2017, 03:34:09 AMa 30 year old full back? we have plenty of full backs dont we?
Jason O'Connor (@Jayoconnor8)
1/15/17, 2:21 PM
Fulham are trying to sign Joey O Brien. Palace are also interested. Expect him to get a move this month.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 16, 2017, 09:58:33 AM
Bamford to Boro on a permanent deal for around £10,000,000. If that figure is true then for me its ridiculous
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 16, 2017, 10:03:19 AMI guess with Martin staying we will not be interested in Rhodes, although if he had left Rhodes would have been a good replacement, as he isnt justa goal scorer and has some similar attributes to Martin in some ways.Quote from: westcliff white on January 16, 2017, 09:58:33 AM
Bamford to Boro on a permanent deal for around £10,000,000. If that figure is true then for me its ridiculous
And yet Rhodes is sitting there twiddling his thumbs. Dont get it, especially for that price.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
I posted yesterday he was going there again but on loan I thought.
10 mill....ridiculous.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 16, 2017, 10:25:16 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 10:10:23 AMAgree he did for them, but for Norwich and Burnley (although not much of a look in there) he has scored very few in the premier league.
I posted yesterday he was going there again but on loan I thought.
10 mill....ridiculous.
Its not that ridiculous, scored a goal every other game for Boro when he was there. Still only 23 & was rated one of the best young strikers in England.
Just seems to have lost his way a bit, £10m not a lot of money for premier league clubs nowadays
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 10:10:23 AMI thought it was a loan too Mince.
I posted yesterday he was going there again but on loan I thought.
10 mill....ridiculous.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 16, 2017, 01:20:29 PMwhy would he leave Boro wher ehe barely sits on the bench to come to us to sit on our bench? Martin is clearly SJ's number 1 forward. I would tink if we are signing someone then it would be a different type of striker, on with pace possibly
Bamford reported to be having medical at Boro, so does that Rhodes is on his way out?
Three questions
Should we?
Could we ?
Would we ?
Unfortunately the way I see it is yes to 1 and 2 and no to 3 come on Fulham prove me wrong. 049:gif
Quote from: f321ffc on January 16, 2017, 01:20:29 PMNO
Bamford reported to be having medical at Boro, so does that Rhodes is on his way out?
Three questions
Should we?
Could we ?
Would we ?
Unfortunately the way I see it is yes to 1 and 2 and no to 3 come on Fulham prove me wrong. 049:gif
Quote from: westcliff white on January 16, 2017, 01:24:53 PMMaybe our bench is more comfortable. 064.gifQuote from: f321ffc on January 16, 2017, 01:20:29 PMwhy would he leave Boro wher ehe barely sits on the bench to come to us to sit on our bench? Martin is clearly SJ's number 1 forward. I would tink if we are signing someone then it would be a different type of striker, on with pace possibly
Bamford reported to be having medical at Boro, so does that Rhodes is on his way out?
Three questions
Should we?
Could we ?
Would we ?
Unfortunately the way I see it is yes to 1 and 2 and no to 3 come on Fulham prove me wrong. 049:gif
If the Martin issue had not been resolved then for me yes he would hav e been my choice
Quote from: westcliff white on January 16, 2017, 03:18:20 PM
Leeds want 15 million for Chris Woods amid interest from West Ham and Sunderland
Quote from: dhowells21 on January 16, 2017, 03:38:16 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 16, 2017, 03:18:20 PM
Leeds want 15 million for Chris Woods amid interest from West Ham and Sunderland
That is absolute insanity. If that really is the state of the market, it's worth us exercising Martin at 9 mln regardless of whether he wants to play here or whether we want him long term. Just sell him in the summer for these ridiculous numbers.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 04:12:35 PM
I remember a couple of us on here about a year ago saying we should have went after Woods.
Slow,overrated, not good enough were some of the remarks.
Funny Old Game Saint..
Quote from: Bracken White on January 15, 2017, 02:02:48 PMRuiz only gave 100% for his country never preformed for us really
Ruiz simply, wouldn't been good enough to play in this team. He wasn't when he was in the fold & couldn't cope with English football. Nothing discernable reported re incumbents at present.
Quote from: Allestree andy on January 16, 2017, 05:11:21 PM
would signing him improve us
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
How many of these Cisse's are there?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
How many of these Cisse's are there?
Quote from: bmasar on January 16, 2017, 06:42:55 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
How many of these Cisse's are there?
How many Smiths are there? You realize different cultures can have common surnames, right?
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lol....It was a joke.
Hence the reply from Woolly.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
How many of these Cisse's are there?
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 16, 2017, 05:22:38 PM
Anyone seen him play? Seems to of played at all levels up to and including U21 for Belgium so must have something. 22 years old is a good age. What position in midfield is he best?
Quote from: sarnian on January 16, 2017, 07:50:00 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 16, 2017, 05:22:38 PM
Anyone seen him play? Seems to of played at all levels up to and including U21 for Belgium so must have something. 22 years old is a good age. What position in midfield is he best?
Why has he only played 3 games for Standard Liege
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 06:45:47 PMQuote from: bmasar on January 16, 2017, 06:42:55 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
How many of these Cisse's are there?
How many Smiths are there? You realize different cultures can have common surnames, right?
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lol....It was a joke.
Hence the reply from Woolly.
Population count for Smiths started in 1911 and still counting. We have one of the more famous Smiths, answers to the name of Matt. He is very popular on this board and on the field of play.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 16, 2017, 08:03:43 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 06:45:47 PMQuote from: bmasar on January 16, 2017, 06:42:55 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
How many of these Cisse's are there?
How many Smiths are there? You realize different cultures can have common surnames, right?
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lol....It was a joke.
Hence the reply from Woolly.
Population count for Smiths started in 1911 and still counting. We have one of the more famous Smiths, answers to the name of Matt. He is very popular on this board and on the field of play.
I'm a Smith. Dannyboi Smithy. I might be a little bit more popular on here than Matt but only because not many people seem to like Smudge playing. So basically I have a chance by default, story of my life.
Back to the transfer rumours.
Any strikers yet Fulham???
Quote from: fulhamross on January 17, 2017, 11:58:49 AMyes he is, lets leave him that way. Looked distinctly average at best in the last MLS season
Robbie Keane is available
Quote from: westcliff white on January 17, 2017, 11:34:43 AMI always thought Cauley and Matt Smith were reasonable players and not given a fair crack of the whip. However it is now clear that neither of them really feature in the coach's plans. Best for them and us that they move on and make space for a new striker of Jocanovic's choice.
Southend United interested in Cauley Woodrow and Matt Smith. My local club, was also where I first saw Cauley play
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 17, 2017, 08:04:52 PM
BREAKING: Sky sources: Leicester City striker Leonardo Ulloa is considering handing in a transfer request: skysports.tv/9eFi4k #SSNHQ
I wonder if he would want to drop down to us
Quote from: Pie and mash on January 17, 2017, 08:28:15 PMHow many Loanees can we have??Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 17, 2017, 08:04:52 PM
BREAKING: Sky sources: Leicester City striker Leonardo Ulloa is considering handing in a transfer request: skysports.tv/9eFi4k #SSNHQ
I wonder if he would want to drop down to us
Way out of our league in terms of wages and price - Unless a miracle loan is on the cards
Quote from: westcliff white on January 17, 2017, 11:34:43 AMGood deal buy 1 and get 1 free, harsh words but 2 of our 3 recognised strikers available for other clubs, sad times, but the club is in a good place if we get 1 or 2 quality strikers to replace them! Personally I would have kept Woodrow!
Southend United interested in Cauley Woodrow and Matt Smith. My local club, was also where I first saw Cauley play
Quote from: davew on January 17, 2017, 11:37:31 PMArticle didnt say they were available just that Southend are interested and enquired. Southend are only looking for one forward in this window. As I say my local club so read the news on themQuote from: westcliff white on January 17, 2017, 11:34:43 AMGood deal buy 1 and get 1 free, harsh words but 2 of our 3 recognised strikers available for other clubs, sad times, but the club is in a good place if we get 1 or 2 quality strikers to replace them! Personally I would have kept Woodrow!
Southend United interested in Cauley Woodrow and Matt Smith. My local club, was also where I first saw Cauley play
Quote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 10:07:37 AM
Journo Alan NIxon says VIlla getting serious about Jordan Rhodes, price boro want is 12 million
Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 11:17:11 AMOr they jusst want the money back they paid for him? Thats what villa got with Gestede I think.Quote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 10:07:37 AM
Journo Alan NIxon says VIlla getting serious about Jordan Rhodes, price boro want is 12 million
So Gestede can't get in a championship team but joins a premiership club for £6m and goes into their team. Then another striker who can't get in the same premiership team goes to the championship club for twice that price. Just goes to show there's no real consistent, objective concept of "value" in football with transfer fees determined by very peculiar, volatile market forces.
Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 11:17:11 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 10:07:37 AM
Journo Alan NIxon says VIlla getting serious about Jordan Rhodes, price boro want is 12 million
So Gestede can't get in a championship team but joins a premiership club for £6m and goes into their team. Then another striker who can't get in the same premiership team goes to the championship club for twice that price. Just goes to show there's no real consistent, objective concept of "value" in football with transfer fees determined by very peculiar, volatile market forces.
Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 18, 2017, 12:40:03 PMEverton want Kone's 40k a week covered, it is why QPR said no to him.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
It has to be someone happy to be Martins understudy which is probably very offputting for anyone whos decent. All they need to do is look at Smith.
Ironically Derby replaced Martin with the best backup, Nugent. Maybe Wickham at Palace but would he come here to play second fiddle?
Maybe Kone at Everton on loan?
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 18, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Grabbon of Bournemouth said to be joining Preston on loan.
Quote from: twang on January 18, 2017, 12:57:18 PMSurely we can get better than Hugill as back upQuote from: Lighthouse on January 18, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Grabbon of Bournemouth said to be joining Preston on loan.
Could possibly open the door for Jordan Hugill to join us? Based on what MJG wrote above, he'd fit the bill and would probably accept not being a nailed on starter.
Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 12:54:18 PMMartins not going back. Any striker coming in will be a replacement for Smith and start second in pecking order.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
What did you hear yesterday and where did you hear it?
My preference would be for something different, unless we're looking to send Martin back early, but if we're sending Martin back then we need two new players anyway
Quote from: Hoppus on January 18, 2017, 01:40:14 PMAnd he supported everyone of them as a kid
Twitter:
'Former Tottenham Hotspur striker Robbie Keane has confirmed that he has offers from several Championship clubs.'
Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 01:51:18 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 18, 2017, 01:40:14 PMAnd he supported everyone of them as a kid
Twitter:
'Former Tottenham Hotspur striker Robbie Keane has confirmed that he has offers from several Championship clubs.'
Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 01:13:41 PMyou say that, but in slavisa comments after barnsley game, he said he expects Martin to play for us again.. EXPECTS, that's far from a definitive, he's definitely staying.Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 12:54:18 PMMartins not going back. Any striker coming in will be a replacement for Smith and start second in pecking order.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
What did you hear yesterday and where did you hear it?
My preference would be for something different, unless we're looking to send Martin back early, but if we're sending Martin back then we need two new players anyway
Quote from: fulhamben on January 18, 2017, 02:18:56 PMThe full quotes from Slav are as below, for me the last line is the important one as that seems very definitive that he wont be leaving us before the end of the season, whilst it doesnt mean he will play, I suspect he will given that he returned to the squad last week and playedthis last weekend,....Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 01:13:41 PMyou say that, but in slavisa comments after barnsley game, he said he expects Martin to play for us again.. EXPECTS, that's far from a definitive, he's definitely staying.Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 12:54:18 PMMartins not going back. Any striker coming in will be a replacement for Smith and start second in pecking order.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
What did you hear yesterday and where did you hear it?
My preference would be for something different, unless we're looking to send Martin back early, but if we're sending Martin back then we need two new players anyway
Quote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 02:25:08 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 18, 2017, 02:18:56 PMThe full quotes from Slav are as below, for me the last line is the important one as that seems very definitive that he wont be leaving us before the end of the season, whilst it doesnt mean he will play, I suspect he will given that he returned to the squad last week and playedthis last weekend,....Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 01:13:41 PMyou say that, but in slavisa comments after barnsley game, he said he expects Martin to play for us again.. EXPECTS, that's far from a definitive, he's definitely staying.Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 12:54:18 PMMartins not going back. Any striker coming in will be a replacement for Smith and start second in pecking order.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
What did you hear yesterday and where did you hear it?
My preference would be for something different, unless we're looking to send Martin back early, but if we're sending Martin back then we need two new players anyway
"He played for his team mates and for Fulham," Jokanović said. "Everyone knows how important he is for us. We are trying to convince him to stay with us.
"Today he had a good performance and we are happy that he is back. I don't know why people ask me about Chris Martin so much this is not his first game for Fulham.
"He did not refuse to play for us, he is a professional football player. He was a little bit confused with the situation and now he has a clear mind.
"I expect he will play for us in the future as well. In general we have to forget about this situation and carry on with preparing for the next game.
"This is the best situation for the club and player. I have made it clear he will be with us until the end of the season and that is it."
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 18, 2017, 02:40:04 PMThats sort of what i said didn't i?Quote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 02:25:08 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 18, 2017, 02:18:56 PMThe full quotes from Slav are as below, for me the last line is the important one as that seems very definitive that he wont be leaving us before the end of the season, whilst it doesnt mean he will play, I suspect he will given that he returned to the squad last week and playedthis last weekend,....Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 01:13:41 PMyou say that, but in slavisa comments after barnsley game, he said he expects Martin to play for us again.. EXPECTS, that's far from a definitive, he's definitely staying.Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 12:54:18 PMMartins not going back. Any striker coming in will be a replacement for Smith and start second in pecking order.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
What did you hear yesterday and where did you hear it?
My preference would be for something different, unless we're looking to send Martin back early, but if we're sending Martin back then we need two new players anyway
"He played for his team mates and for Fulham," Jokanović said. "Everyone knows how important he is for us. We are trying to convince him to stay with us.
"Today he had a good performance and we are happy that he is back. I don't know why people ask me about Chris Martin so much this is not his first game for Fulham.
"He did not refuse to play for us, he is a professional football player. He was a little bit confused with the situation and now he has a clear mind.
"I expect he will play for us in the future as well. In general we have to forget about this situation and carry on with preparing for the next game.
"This is the best situation for the club and player. I have made it clear he will be with us until the end of the season and that is it."
In other words, no matter what happens Martin will not be pulling on a Derby kit this season.
Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 02:50:47 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 18, 2017, 02:40:04 PMThats sort of what i said didn't i?Quote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 02:25:08 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 18, 2017, 02:18:56 PMThe full quotes from Slav are as below, for me the last line is the important one as that seems very definitive that he wont be leaving us before the end of the season, whilst it doesnt mean he will play, I suspect he will given that he returned to the squad last week and playedthis last weekend,....Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 01:13:41 PMyou say that, but in slavisa comments after barnsley game, he said he expects Martin to play for us again.. EXPECTS, that's far from a definitive, he's definitely staying.Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2017, 12:54:18 PMMartins not going back. Any striker coming in will be a replacement for Smith and start second in pecking order.Quote from: MJG on January 18, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
If we are naming strikers then I believe we need to think of those players that play like Martin as that one up top central cog for all the runners.
I dont believe given stuff i heard yesterday that we will be straying much away from that skill set.
What did you hear yesterday and where did you hear it?
My preference would be for something different, unless we're looking to send Martin back early, but if we're sending Martin back then we need two new players anyway
"He played for his team mates and for Fulham," Jokanović said. "Everyone knows how important he is for us. We are trying to convince him to stay with us.
"Today he had a good performance and we are happy that he is back. I don't know why people ask me about Chris Martin so much this is not his first game for Fulham.
"He did not refuse to play for us, he is a professional football player. He was a little bit confused with the situation and now he has a clear mind.
"I expect he will play for us in the future as well. In general we have to forget about this situation and carry on with preparing for the next game.
"This is the best situation for the club and player. I have made it clear he will be with us until the end of the season and that is it."
In other words, no matter what happens Martin will not be pulling on a Derby kit this season.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 18, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Anyone checked out Ollie Watkins from Exeter City, just turned 21, 6ft 1" strong runner & decent on the ball. Big clubs sniffing , might be worth a punt to play second fiddle to Martin while he develops
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 18, 2017, 03:48:29 PMAgree MinceQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 18, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Anyone checked out Ollie Watkins from Exeter City, just turned 21, 6ft 1" strong runner & decent on the ball. Big clubs sniffing , might be worth a punt to play second fiddle to Martin while he develops
Needs to be experienced player,we already have a decent novice in Humphreys.
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 18, 2017, 04:19:47 PMDidn't he play for Wycombe or Stevenage? Sure he did for one or both saw him at Southend, am posi Indie, by all accounts terrible
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/18/report-fulham-rotherham-united-and-peterborough-united-in-battle/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/18/report-fulham-rotherham-united-and-peterborough-united-in-battle/)
Says here that we want Sutton midfielder Roarie Deacon, although I think it may be nonsense
Quote from: river phoenix on January 18, 2017, 01:10:52 PM
Report: Fulham make final £2.2m bid for Belgium under-21 midfielder Ibrahima Cisse
The Cottagers will look elsewhere if this latest offer is not accepted.
Fulham have made a second and final proposal to Standard Liege for their midfielder Ibrahima Cisse, according the La Derniere Heure.
The report claims that the Championship side are set to offer the Belgian club a deal in the region of €2.5 million (£2.2 million) for the player's services this month.
If this deal is not accepted by Standard then Fulham will move on to other potential transfer targets. But the player is desperate to make the move to Craven Cottage and is hopeful Standard will sell him this month.
Cisse re-signed for Standard in the summer after spending two years at KV Mechelen. The Belgian under-21 international has gone on to prove himself at the club and Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic is clearly a big fan of the player.
Fulham are still hoping to push on for the play-off places this season after an impressive campaign in which they have played some excellent football and Cisse would be a strong signing in their attempt to push into the top six.
But if a deal cannot be done, it appears they are set to explore other avenues.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 18, 2017, 05:15:53 PMQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 18, 2017, 04:19:47 PMDidn't he play for Wycombe or Stevenage? Sure he did for one or both saw him at Southend, am posi Indie, by all accounts terrible
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/18/report-fulham-rotherham-united-and-peterborough-united-in-battle/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/18/report-fulham-rotherham-united-and-peterborough-united-in-battle/)
Says here that we want Sutton midfielder Roarie Deacon, although I think it may be nonsense
Quote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:42:31 PMDon't know how true this is just googled him and says he plays for Anzi machalalha(sp) on loan from a French club
36m
apoel.net @apoelnet_eng
Cedric Yambere has changed his mind and will join Fulham, instead. The English club made a tempting offer last night and sealed the deal.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:49:14 PMyay, a center back. you can never have enough of those, especially when you have no strikers.Quote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:42:31 PMDon't know how true this is just googled him and says he plays for Anzi machalalha(sp) on loan from a French club
36m
apoel.net @apoelnet_eng
Cedric Yambere has changed his mind and will join Fulham, instead. The English club made a tempting offer last night and sealed the deal.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:49:14 PMQuote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:42:31 PMDon't know how true this is just googled him and says he plays for Anzi machalalha(sp) on loan from a French club
36m
apoel.net @apoelnet_eng
Cedric Yambere has changed his mind and will join Fulham, instead. The English club made a tempting offer last night and sealed the deal.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 18, 2017, 09:00:36 PMQuote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:49:14 PMQuote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:42:31 PMDon't know how true this is just googled him and says he plays for Anzi machalalha(sp) on loan from a French club
36m
apoel.net @apoelnet_eng
Cedric Yambere has changed his mind and will join Fulham, instead. The English club made a tempting offer last night and sealed the deal.
26 year old centre on loan at Anzi from Bordeaux but only played just over 100 senior games.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 18, 2017, 08:56:20 PMLol, even Smith'y could play centre back, so this other guy (never heard of him) has apparently agreed to play for us as long as he can play for Derby when they are playing on different days from us!Quote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:49:14 PMyay, a center back. you can never have enough of those, especially when you have no strikers.Quote from: f321ffc on January 18, 2017, 08:42:31 PMDon't know how true this is just googled him and says he plays for Anzi machalalha(sp) on loan from a French club
36m
apoel.net @apoelnet_eng
Cedric Yambere has changed his mind and will join Fulham, instead. The English club made a tempting offer last night and sealed the deal.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 19, 2017, 01:52:41 AM£9m! You could get Chris Martin for that
The Mail are reporting that Middlesborough have turned down a bid of £6m + extras from Villa for Rhodes because they want £9m:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4132890/Aston-Villa-bid-6m-Jordan-Rhodes-Middlesbrough.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4132890/Aston-Villa-bid-6m-Jordan-Rhodes-Middlesbrough.html)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2017, 08:18:55 AMI can not describe how much I do not want this to happen.
Breaking News...Ross McCormack now bookies fav to return to Craven Cottage.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2017, 08:18:55 AMNever go back!
Breaking News...Ross McCormack now bookies fav to return to Craven Cottage.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2017, 08:18:55 AM
Breaking News...Ross McCormack now bookies fav to return to Craven Cottage.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 19, 2017, 10:25:16 AMApparently he has agreed to go to Preston, or that was the story on SKy and Twitter last night
Bookies fav to sign Grabban also.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on January 19, 2017, 10:13:15 AMMartin seemed to do ok at the weekend scored 2 of his 3 now this season
Put Ross on the bench and bring him on when we get a penalty.
Quote from: Wolf on January 19, 2017, 11:59:25 AMOmar on his way??????
Grimsby Town have spent money on 2 players including a striker (Akwasi Asante). Could be Omar Bogle is on the move somewhere.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 19, 2017, 12:05:39 PM
Cedric Yambere
Ross- on loan
Bogle
You heard it here first..........
Quote from: f321ffc on January 19, 2017, 01:01:27 PMI'm surprised Jordan Rhodes hasn't rejected a move to Sheff Wed! A massive step backwards for him
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL
Middlesbrough have rejected a £9m bid from Sheffield Wednesday for striker Jordan Rhodes.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 19, 2017, 01:06:52 PMMcCormack to Fulham was 8/1 yesterday, now 8/11 best price..
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TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
CONFIRMED. ROSS MCCORMACK will return to Fulham in the coming days.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 19, 2017, 01:06:52 PM
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
CONFIRMED. ROSS MCCORMACK will return to Fulham in the coming days.
Quote from: dhowells21 on January 19, 2017, 01:14:56 PMQuote from: f321ffc on January 19, 2017, 01:06:52 PM
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
CONFIRMED. ROSS MCCORMACK will return to Fulham in the coming days.
Personally I'd say not to sign him, but it does quite excite me.
Very contrasting emotions!
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2017, 01:17:35 PMI would not be in favour, but I believe in SJ and if it is HIS decision to bring Mac back then I will go with it! In SJ we trust.Quote from: dhowells21 on January 19, 2017, 01:14:56 PMQuote from: f321ffc on January 19, 2017, 01:06:52 PM
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
CONFIRMED. ROSS MCCORMACK will return to Fulham in the coming days.
Personally I'd say not to sign him, but it does quite excite me.
Very contrasting emotions!
It's a no from me.
Quote from: MJG on January 19, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Imagine having both Martin and McCormack on the pitch huffing and puffing and throwing there arms around like spoilt kids.
Excellent for team spirit.
One maybe but two players doing that... no.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on January 19, 2017, 01:32:39 PMHere's hoping
They say never go back, but, I've a feeling this may pay off in our favour - for once. McCormack hasn't settled at Villa, we still know what he's capable of, and, if Martin does go on another paddy, McCormack fits the bill. SJ isn't stupid, didn't want to sell him originally, but the proce for him was to good to turn down, and the money has been re-invested to improve the squad.
You can see it now, McCormack never gets promoted, gets sold, comes back, fires us to promotion.
Quote from: Riversider on January 19, 2017, 01:39:54 PMCome on Riversider stop beating about the bush and say what you really think. 064.gif 065.gif
Who the f*** are these so called Fulham supporters disrespecting Ross McCormack ? Always gave 110% in a Fulham shirt,
Without him we would still be trying to get out of League 1 !
Aluko or McCormack ? McCormack every time for me , for his effort, for his goals, for his penalties, for his free kicks and for his corners,
Anybody that thinks Ross McCormack wouldn't strengthen our squad is firstly not very knowledgeable and secondly talking out of their a**e.
Quote from: Riversider on January 19, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
Who the f*** are these so called Fulham supporters disrespecting Ross McCormack ? Always gave 110% in a Fulham shirt,
Without him we would still be trying to get out of League 1 !
Aluko or McCormack ? McCormack every time for me , for his effort, for his goals, for his penalties, for his free kicks and for his corners,
Anybody that thinks Ross McCormack wouldn't strengthen our squad is firstly not very knowledgeable and secondly talking out of their a**e.
Quote from: Rodge on January 19, 2017, 01:34:09 PM
I don't really get the anti Ross feelings being expressed in this thread. My understanding was that he signed a contract extension with us which enabled us to sell him for big bucks. He didn't go on strike like Martin or allowed his contract to run down so we got nothing for him, like Dembele.
We all agree SJ is doing a great job, he has worked with Ross before and thinks he can fit him into the team, I trust him!
We have been vastly improved this season but still lack the ability to finish off the chances we are creating. Why wouldn't we want a player who was consistently our top scorer two seasons running ( in much poorer Fulham teams) and who can score free-kicks and penalties for fun?
It would be interesting to see us play the same formation as we did against Cardiff with CM and RM up top, whilst I like their commitment to the cause I would expect this front line would be more potent than Piazon and Aluko
Quote from: Riversider on January 19, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
Who the f*** are these so called Fulham supporters disrespecting Ross McCormack ? Always gave 110% in a Fulham shirt,
Without him we would still be trying to get out of League 1 !
Aluko or McCormack ? McCormack every time for me , for his effort, for his goals, for his penalties, for his free kicks and for his corners,
Anybody that thinks Ross McCormack wouldn't strengthen our squad is firstly not very knowledgeable and secondly talking out of their a**e.
Quote from: Kentish Gent on January 19, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
Just had a nasty thought - is Ross on his way back, because the club have accepted mega-wonga from Newcastle for Cairney?
Quote from: Pie and mash on January 19, 2017, 03:09:48 PMa lot of rumours saying he is, just rumours mind you. And bookies have taken money on it too, but it is a low betting market thats for sure.
Ross ain't coming back
Quote from: westcliff white on January 19, 2017, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on January 19, 2017, 03:09:48 PMa lot of rumours saying he is, just rumours mind you. And bookies have taken money on it too, but it is a low betting market thats for sure.
Ross ain't coming back
Time will tell.
Quote from: Pie and mash on January 19, 2017, 03:19:00 PMI tend to agree, however bookies are no mugs.Quote from: westcliff white on January 19, 2017, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on January 19, 2017, 03:09:48 PMa lot of rumours saying he is, just rumours mind you. And bookies have taken money on it too, but it is a low betting market thats for sure.
Ross ain't coming back
Time will tell.
Can't see any from a credible source - Few people have read some rumours, seen the Fulham link and lumped in and shifted the odds
Jokanovic on transfers: 2 or 3 to arrive fairly shortly. Including a striker as well as Martin going nowhere #ffc
— Nick Godwin (@NickGodwinsport) January 19, 2017
Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2017, 03:44:54 PMI also think when a club changes managers you see movement earlier in january by those teams as a manager likes to make up for time lost by not being around in Summer window.
Nugent, Bamford, Gestede all moved now and Lansbury about to be announced by Villa. Agree that most activity will be concentrated toward the end of the window but you can't say things aren't happening, including some good players and several of our rivals. Swansea also made two big signings earlier in the week. Shows how quickly things can be pushed through if you're motivated.
Quote from: Mullers OG on January 19, 2017, 05:20:50 PM
I don't particularly want him back from Villa but almost anyone would be an improvement on Aluko.
Quote from: e4b on January 19, 2017, 06:05:20 PMAs shown in the Ipswich game Ayité isn't exactly clinical
Would happily take Ross back but wont we have Floyd back soon as well? Agree Sone can be wasteful but is great to watch and gives defenders a lot to think about.
Quote from: AnEssexFan on January 19, 2017, 03:51:47 PMWell said sir!
I don't agree with this "we play with pace" argument. In recent weeks we have completely dominated possession and territory, meaning that attacks have slowed in the final third, requiring Fredericks, Aluko, Piazon and Malone to accelerate in 5 or 10 yard bursts out wide to beat full backs. Otherwise it's lots of short sharp passing in and around the box, and ross is very good at that sort of stuff - and he gets his shots away (which a lot of our players don't), amd he scores a lot of goals (which a lot of our players don't).
Against the likes of Burton, QPR to name just 2 teams, Ross could have made a huge difference.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2017, 07:48:17 PMapart from when he was leeds mascot not so long ago if im correct. or he was at least at the game in their top
His boy always has his Fulham top on.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 19, 2017, 07:53:55 PMCairney and Martin aren't really Scottish though. Jack Grimmer is another one who is Scottish
Mince , Ross would make it 4 "Scots" iin the side with cairney, Martin and Macdonald if he does come back. The whites have never had that many before in one Fulham side !
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AMCOuld also mean some one shoved 50 quid on in a low bet market, which I suspect this is.
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
Quote from: westcliff white on January 20, 2017, 08:23:35 AMBit of a risk £50 to win £72 on a whim?Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AMCOuld also mean some one shoved 50 quid on in a low bet market, which I suspect this is.
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
BUt in SJ we trust so if thats his want then 100% behind him
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:28:09 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 20, 2017, 08:23:35 AMBit of a risk £50 to win £72 on a whim?Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AMCOuld also mean some one shoved 50 quid on in a low bet market, which I suspect this is.
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
BUt in SJ we trust so if thats his want then 100% behind him
Some people have more money than sense.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:28:09 AMWas an example, as bookies cant just move odds they need a reason too as they are restricted under laws etc.Quote from: westcliff white on January 20, 2017, 08:23:35 AMBit of a risk £50 to win £72 on a whim?Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AMCOuld also mean some one shoved 50 quid on in a low bet market, which I suspect this is.
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
BUt in SJ we trust so if thats his want then 100% behind him
Some people have more money than sense.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 20, 2017, 09:00:39 AMOdds wise in a normal betting market you are right, but in low bet markets I would say could be be less than 1/10.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:28:09 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 20, 2017, 08:23:35 AMBit of a risk £50 to win £72 on a whim?Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AMCOuld also mean some one shoved 50 quid on in a low bet market, which I suspect this is.
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
BUt in SJ we trust so if thats his want then 100% behind him
Some people have more money than sense.
Think its more 28 quid profit if the odds were 4/7 but still its a big gamble for little gain. More money than sense if that has happened.
I dont think these markets are enough to go buy until its like 1/10. Then you know they know something.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
Quote from: westcliff white on January 20, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
they are saying more likely in this case for 2/7 you put 7 pounds on to win 2
Quote from: Holders on January 20, 2017, 09:35:39 AMThe 'Shorter' the odds, their more likely of it happening. ie 10/1 means it will happen once in ten occasion's, so about 10% of the time. If you put on £10, you get £100 back, plus your stake. 4/7 means it will pay odds of 1.5 (rounding up) so £10 would return £15 including your stake. It is now 2/7, so £10 bet would return almost £13 including your stake.Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
For someone who doesn't gamble, is this saying that they regard it as more or less likely? As a rule, which figure does one have to divide into the other to compare these?
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 20, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
092.gif Just checked Skybet. Ross McCormack odds dropped again from 4/7 to 2/7 !
You never see a bookmaker on a push bike! 049:gif
Quote from: Bracken White on January 20, 2017, 11:37:09 AMYou say it would be interesting to see him in the current system and as a co-striker. Well we dont really have that role in the current system so it would mean changing the system dont you?
Would be interesting to see where RMcC would fit in to the present system. I think it would have to be co-striker as our fluid midfield is working well, and he's most certainly not a CF. However, a quality player in my book, who knows Jokanovic well of course - so a sound addition to the squad.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on January 20, 2017, 12:40:24 PM
Just on Sky
FULHAM BACK IN FOR CISSE
Fulham have launched a second bid of £2.2m for Standard Liege midfielder Ibrahima Cisse, according to Sky sources.
The Belgian club, who value Cisse at close to £3m, are understood to be considering the offer.
However, the Cottagers are preparing to move on other targets if this latest offer for Cisse is rejected.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 20, 2017, 11:37:09 AMHow could Ross fit into the present system as a "co-striker"? By which I assume you mean 2 up front. That is not the current system.
Would be interesting to see where RMcC would fit in to the present system. I think it would have to be co-striker as our fluid midfield is working well, and he's most certainly not a CF. However, a quality player in my book, who knows Jokanovic well of course - so a sound addition to the squad.
Quote from: MJG on January 20, 2017, 12:44:44 PMQuote from: Bracken White on January 20, 2017, 11:37:09 AMYou say it would be interesting to see him in the current system and as a co-striker. Well we dont really have that role in the current system so it would mean changing the system dont you?
Would be interesting to see where RMcC would fit in to the present system. I think it would have to be co-striker as our fluid midfield is working well, and he's most certainly not a CF. However, a quality player in my book, who knows Jokanovic well of course - so a sound addition to the squad.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on January 20, 2017, 12:40:24 PM
Just on Sky
FULHAM BACK IN FOR CISSE
Fulham have launched a second bid of £2.2m for Standard Liege midfielder Ibrahima Cisse, according to Sky sources.
The Belgian club, who value Cisse at close to £3m, are understood to be considering the offer.
However, the Cottagers are preparing to move on other targets if this latest offer for Cisse is rejected.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 20, 2017, 12:50:38 PMSo what your saying is once hes worked off that belly he currently has and then gets himself match fit and up to speed with the way we play (while also agreeing a pay rise in this time for whatever reason) we could see him pulling the strings in ...late April?Quote from: MJG on January 20, 2017, 12:44:44 PMQuote from: Bracken White on January 20, 2017, 11:37:09 AMYou say it would be interesting to see him in the current system and as a co-striker. Well we dont really have that role in the current system so it would mean changing the system dont you?
Would be interesting to see where RMcC would fit in to the present system. I think it would have to be co-striker as our fluid midfield is working well, and he's most certainly not a CF. However, a quality player in my book, who knows Jokanovic well of course - so a sound addition to the squad.
On the left where Piazon plays. Ayite or Aluko on the other wing. We dont play both wing forwards as out and out wingers anyway so it could work. I can see Ross cutting in and smashing a few from edge of the box.
Can he do the dirty work Piazon does and resist wondering out of position? I guess thats more debateable. But the left is the only position id take him as a starter. He cant cut in from the right so its left of Martin and 2nd choice striker.
We shouldnt be changing this system for anyone new coming in!
Quote from: MJG on January 20, 2017, 12:54:06 PMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 20, 2017, 12:50:38 PMSo what your saying is once hes worked off that belly he currently has and then gets himself match fit and up to speed with the way we play (while also agreeing a pay rise in this time for whatever reason) we could see him pulling the strings in ...late April?Quote from: MJG on January 20, 2017, 12:44:44 PMQuote from: Bracken White on January 20, 2017, 11:37:09 AMYou say it would be interesting to see him in the current system and as a co-striker. Well we dont really have that role in the current system so it would mean changing the system dont you?
Would be interesting to see where RMcC would fit in to the present system. I think it would have to be co-striker as our fluid midfield is working well, and he's most certainly not a CF. However, a quality player in my book, who knows Jokanovic well of course - so a sound addition to the squad.
On the left where Piazon plays. Ayite or Aluko on the other wing. We dont play both wing forwards as out and out wingers anyway so it could work. I can see Ross cutting in and smashing a few from edge of the box.
Can he do the dirty work Piazon does and resist wondering out of position? I guess thats more debateable. But the left is the only position id take him as a starter. He cant cut in from the right so its left of Martin and 2nd choice striker.
We shouldnt be changing this system for anyone new coming in!
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 19, 2017, 08:17:12 PMQuote from: colinwhite on January 19, 2017, 07:53:55 PMCairney and Martin aren't really Scottish though. Jack Grimmer is another one who is Scottish
Mince , Ross would make it 4 "Scots" iin the side with cairney, Martin and Macdonald if he does come back. The whites have never had that many before in one Fulham side !
Quote from: river phoenix on January 20, 2017, 12:47:52 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on January 20, 2017, 12:40:24 PM
Just on Sky
FULHAM BACK IN FOR CISSE
Fulham have launched a second bid of £2.2m for Standard Liege midfielder Ibrahima Cisse, according to Sky sources.
The Belgian club, who value Cisse at close to £3m, are understood to be considering the offer.
However, the Cottagers are preparing to move on other targets if this latest offer for Cisse is rejected.
Sky and their sources... fp.gif
They are kinda 5 days late with this `news`.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 17, 2017, 08:36:02 PM
How many Loanees can we have??
Quote from: Holders on January 20, 2017, 03:38:40 PM
In all this debate over someone who left for pastures greener, no-one has mentioned cost. We sold him for reputedly £12m back in the summer* - how much less do those who want him back think that Villa would accept a few months later?
Further, I can't believe that at £12m or whatever he'd be as good as someone else who might cost less than that who'd be better suited to our system as it is now and either complement Chrissy or offer an alternative in approach.
* presumably that was a smaller up-front fee plus add-ons which might not have kicked in.
Quote from: Sir Craven on January 20, 2017, 02:14:01 PM
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on January 20, 2017, 04:16:36 PMI heard that villa paid almost all upfrontQuote from: Holders on January 20, 2017, 03:38:40 PM
In all this debate over someone who left for pastures greener, no-one has mentioned cost. We sold him for reputedly £12m back in the summer* - how much less do those who want him back think that Villa would accept a few months later?
Further, I can't believe that at £12m or whatever he'd be as good as someone else who might cost less than that who'd be better suited to our system as it is now and either complement Chrissy or offer an alternative in approach.
* presumably that was a smaller up-front fee plus add-ons which might not have kicked in.
I want him on loan. I dont think anyone will pay anywhere near that for him now. There best chance is loan him out, hope his stock rises again with a successful 2nd half of season. Then claw back as much of it as they can. But they will make a loss no matter what.
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If we did resign him now I dont think he's worth more than 6 million.
Quote from: Keynsham on January 20, 2017, 09:43:11 PM
I've got 4 Villa mates who are all independent of one another who all seem to think that he will sign for us on Tuesday.
I've absolutely nothing to back this up with, only their word. But it's interesting (to me) that they have all offered this up without me asking a thing.
Quote from: Keynsham on January 20, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
I would say that one has a little, that's as good as I've got. What I suspect in reality, is that they have all heard the same rumour and it is beginning to snowball.
For me, it'll be interesting to see what happens come Tuesday now!
Quote from: f321ffc on January 20, 2017, 06:55:35 PM
Loads of rumours that Ross Mc is at Motspur park on Twitter.
Graeme Banyard @gpbanyard
Ross McCormack is currently at Fulham training ground.However,may just be to watch his son football training there.Make of it what you will!
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 20, 2017, 04:32:53 PMQuote from: Sir Craven on January 20, 2017, 02:14:01 PM
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Interesting to see how he gets on. Very lightweight for the Championship or at least was when he was here. May have toughened up even if he hasn't grown.
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on January 21, 2017, 12:07:03 AMQuote from: Keynsham on January 20, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
I would say that one has a little, that's as good as I've got. What I suspect in reality, is that they have all heard the same rumour and it is beginning to snowball.
For me, it'll be interesting to see what happens come Tuesday now!
What's wrong with Monday?
Nogood "I don't like Mondays, isit" Boyo
Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 21, 2017, 03:20:58 PMgabby is upfront fir them
Mccormack not included in Villas squad at all today. Seems very strange as they appear to be playing without a recognised striker!
Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 21, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Always seen him as more of a winger or man behind the striker last few years. Certainly not prolific
Quote from: Twig on January 22, 2017, 02:15:03 PMDid he not play on the wing for Leeds??Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 21, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Always seen him as more of a winger or man behind the striker last few years. Certainly not prolific
Sorry if I have misunderstood but Ross a winger? Far too slow.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 02:22:53 PMHe's put on a bit of weight since thenQuote from: Twig on January 22, 2017, 02:15:03 PMDid he not play on the wing for Leeds??Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 21, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Always seen him as more of a winger or man behind the striker last few years. Certainly not prolific
Sorry if I have misunderstood but Ross a winger? Far too slow.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 22, 2017, 02:25:50 PMVery true. Still its further for a defender to get round him!Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 02:22:53 PMHe's put on a bit of weight since thenQuote from: Twig on January 22, 2017, 02:15:03 PMDid he not play on the wing for Leeds??Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 21, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Always seen him as more of a winger or man behind the striker last few years. Certainly not prolific
Sorry if I have misunderstood but Ross a winger? Far too slow.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 02:38:33 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 22, 2017, 02:25:50 PMVery true. Still its further for a defender to get round him!Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 02:22:53 PMHe's put on a bit of weight since thenQuote from: Twig on January 22, 2017, 02:15:03 PMDid he not play on the wing for Leeds??Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 21, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Always seen him as more of a winger or man behind the striker last few years. Certainly not prolific
Sorry if I have misunderstood but Ross a winger? Far too slow.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 20, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
Latest rumour from them deep dark woods where Goblins roam and fairies dance in the moonlight is Norwich set to swoop for him.
Stories you here in deepest Cambridgeshire.
Don't go out on your own tonight Master them hounds are a wailing in Withy Copse.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on January 22, 2017, 03:10:10 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 20, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
Latest rumour from them deep dark woods where Goblins roam and fairies dance in the moonlight is Norwich set to swoop for him.
Stories you here in deepest Cambridgeshire.
Don't go out on your own tonight Master them hounds are a wailing in Withy Copse.
You need to take more water with those tablets Mince....
:005:
Quote from: river phoenix on January 22, 2017, 06:06:55 PMYoung..... But another midfielder???
Transfer Centre 9 @TransferCentre9 17m17 minutes ago
Birmingham City and Fulham are involved in a tug of war over the loan signing of Sullay Kaikai #bcfc #ffc #fulhamfc #cpfc
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 06:32:01 PMHaving looked at our bench we need more attacking midfielders and he plays wide or up top.Quote from: river phoenix on January 22, 2017, 06:06:55 PMYoung..... But another midfielder???
Transfer Centre 9 @TransferCentre9 17m17 minutes ago
Birmingham City and Fulham are involved in a tug of war over the loan signing of Sullay Kaikai #bcfc #ffc #fulhamfc #cpfc
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 08:50:56 PMOoh erh misses !!!!
Sounds like a character from "Carry On Up The Kyber"
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 08:58:00 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 08:50:56 PMOoh erh misses !!!!
Sounds like a character from "Carry On Up The Kyber"
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 09:00:17 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 08:58:00 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 08:50:56 PMOoh erh misses !!!!
Sounds like a character from "Carry On Up The Kyber"
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 08:58:04 PM
2 bids in for Rhodes,one Sheff Wed other not known as apparently Villa cooled interest.
How many strikers will Weds have.
Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PMDidn't boro reject more than that from villa?
Wednesday offer 8 million plus add ons for Rhodes.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PM
Wednesday offer 8 million plus add ons for Rhodes.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 09:03:03 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 09:00:17 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on January 22, 2017, 08:58:00 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2017, 08:50:56 PMOoh erh misses !!!!
Sounds like a character from "Carry On Up The Kyber"
Quote from: westcliff white on January 23, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
According to some reports derby and Wednesday also interested in Ross
Quote from: westcliff white on January 23, 2017, 05:27:35 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PMDidn't boro reject more than that from villa?
Wednesday offer 8 million plus add ons for Rhodes.
Quote from: Texas White on January 23, 2017, 06:25:11 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 23, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
According to some reports derby and Wednesday also interested in Ross
Ross to Derby
Vydra to us
Quote from: westcliff white on January 23, 2017, 05:45:21 PMRoss to Derby, now that is what I call poetic justice!
According to some reports derby and Wednesday also interested in Ross
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 23, 2017, 07:44:56 PMOften the truth is said in jest!!
Fulham to sign a player soon ! :wine:
Now that's a silly transfer rumour ! :doh:
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 23, 2017, 07:57:05 PMhe was recalled a while ago after a dispute between bordeuax and anzi, he has since almost joined a Cypriot or Greek club but allegedly changed his mind so he could join us, what I just said was news around a week ago
Cedric Yambere has apparently been recalled to Bordeaux, might mean we made an offer they wanted to accept
Quote from: westcliff white on January 23, 2017, 08:13:13 PMQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 23, 2017, 07:57:05 PMhe was recalled a while ago after a dispute between bordeuax and anzi, he has since almost joined a Cypriot or Greek club but allegedly changed his mind so he could join us, what I just said was news around a week ago
Cedric Yambere has apparently been recalled to Bordeaux, might mean we made an offer they wanted to accept
Quote from: davew on January 23, 2017, 08:03:19 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 23, 2017, 07:44:56 PMOften the truth is said in jest!!
Fulham to sign a player soon ! :wine:
Now that's a silly transfer rumour ! :doh:
Quote from: davew on January 23, 2017, 11:07:17 PMI've watched for 10 mins and nothing has happened??????
Might as well close this thread, 71 pages so far and how many postings on who we have signed (so far)? The good news is we haven't sold/released any of our good players so far but I do fear that if we lose tomorrow it could be a different ball game, watch this space!!
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 23, 2017, 05:29:00 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PM
Wednesday offer 8 million plus add ons for Rhodes.
Friday offers £10m for Crete
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 23, 2017, 11:17:10 PMNot at all, next time I am going to have a drink is when we sign/loan somebody decent! Just got to check the sell by date on the bottle first!Quote from: davew on January 23, 2017, 11:07:17 PMI've watched for 10 mins and nothing has happened??????
Might as well close this thread, 71 pages so far and how many postings on who we have signed (so far)? The good news is we haven't sold/released any of our good players so far but I do fear that if we lose tomorrow it could be a different ball game, watch this space!!
Or am I just too impatient??
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on January 23, 2017, 11:30:33 PMWhich 1 is the team and which 1 is the player??Quote from: sunburywhite on January 23, 2017, 05:29:00 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PM
Wednesday offer 8 million plus add ons for Rhodes.
Friday offers £10m for Crete
Ellen DeGeneres buys Lesbos
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 24, 2017, 07:42:03 AM
HITC reporting 8 clubs now interested in Ross, those being Sunderland, Burnley, Brighton, Derby, Wolves, Norwich, Sheff Wed and ourselves.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 24, 2017, 07:42:03 AM
HITC reporting 8 clubs now interested in Ross, those being Sunderland, Burnley, Brighton, Derby, Wolves, Norwich, Sheff Wed and ourselves.
Quote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:35:35 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Does Caramac still exist or was this an obsolete bar from c. 1990?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 08:55:00 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:35:35 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Does Caramac still exist or was this an obsolete bar from c. 1990?
You can still get Caramac at certain shops.
Quote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 09:40:50 AMI have the wife out spending her days searching for things like this.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 08:55:00 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:35:35 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Does Caramac still exist or was this an obsolete bar from c. 1990?
You can still get Caramac at certain shops.
I guess you have to be "in teh know"? Nudge. nudge, nods as a good as a wink squire,,,,,,,,,,,
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 09:47:01 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 09:40:50 AMI have the wife out spending her days searching for things like this.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 08:55:00 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:35:35 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Does Caramac still exist or was this an obsolete bar from c. 1990?
You can still get Caramac at certain shops.
I guess you have to be "in teh know"? Nudge. nudge, nods as a good as a wink squire,,,,,,,,,,,
Still can't get a packet of Old English Spangles..lol
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 09:47:01 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 09:40:50 AMI have the wife out spending her days searching for things like this.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 08:55:00 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:35:35 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Does Caramac still exist or was this an obsolete bar from c. 1990?
You can still get Caramac at certain shops.
I guess you have to be "in teh know"? Nudge. nudge, nods as a good as a wink squire,,,,,,,,,,,
Still can't get a packet of Old English Spangles..lol
Quote from: f321ffc on January 24, 2017, 10:02:38 AMRead my post above..lol
Come on I know it's slow transfer wise but let's try and keep it about rumours and not bloody confectionary. 096.gig
Quote from: f321ffc on January 24, 2017, 10:02:38 AM
Come on I know it's slow transfer wise but let's try and keep it about rumours and not bloody confectionary. 096.gig
Quote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 08:30:18 AM
If the Cisse gossip is true this is exactly the kind of thing that winds me up.
Make an approach, they ask for £2.5m so we offer £2m. They reject that so we offer £2.2m. Now that's rejected too. We'll probably get him on deadline day for £2.3m and congratulate ourselves on shaving £200k off the price. Meanwhile 3 league games will have gone by.
Cisse's probably not the best example because McDonald and johansen have played well in his position. But if our negotiators are busy with this silliness, outgoing transfers (Jozabed, Tunnicliffe) and rectifying the mistakes they made with Martin in the summer (none of this with McLaren would have happened if it had been a perm move) you can see why we're not signing anyone.
Quote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:37:21 AM
Does anyone think Joka would walk if we don't manage any decent signings during this window?
I am sure he would be seriously pe'ed off but it takes a lot to induce a manager to walk away. I'd put money on him seeing the season out but refusing to sign a new contract.
Quote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 08:30:18 AM
If the Cisse gossip is true this is exactly the kind of thing that winds me up.
Make an approach, they ask for £2.5m so we offer £2m. They reject that so we offer £2.2m. Now that's rejected too. We'll probably get him on deadline day for £2.3m and congratulate ourselves on shaving £200k off the price. Meanwhile 3 league games will have gone by.
Cisse's probably not the best example because McDonald and johansen have played well in his position. But if our negotiators are busy with this silliness, outgoing transfers (Jozabed, Tunnicliffe) and rectifying the mistakes they made with Martin in the summer (none of this with McLaren would have happened if it had been a perm move) you can see why we're not signing anyone.
Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 11:50:49 AM
Athanasios Petsos a DM from Bremen linked
Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 11:50:49 AMAthanasios Petsos close to joining Fulham
Athanasios Petsos a DM from Bremen linked
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PM
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
Quote from: simplyfulham on January 24, 2017, 02:25:36 PMwell, when you are short on attacking options, the best thing you can do, is release two more attacking optionsQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PM
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
Out on loan or out the door altogether?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 24, 2017, 02:49:43 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on January 24, 2017, 02:25:36 PMwell, when you are short on attacking options, the best thing you can do, is release two more attacking optionsQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PM
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
Out on loan or out the door altogether?
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 24, 2017, 03:11:11 PMit always feels like we are the only club in the world, to get rid of players, before we even start thinking about getting in replacements. Even slavisa had a dig about how slow we are at doing anything the other day. Meanwhile we have already dropped 5 points this monthQuote from: fulhamben on January 24, 2017, 02:49:43 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on January 24, 2017, 02:25:36 PMwell, when you are short on attacking options, the best thing you can do, is release two more attacking optionsQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PM
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
Out on loan or out the door altogether?
I keep saying whenever we have news of forwards and attacking players going out on loan. That this means we are about to bring in one or two players...... Still waiting.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PMIs this where you got it from
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
Quote from: twang on January 24, 2017, 03:37:47 PM
Petsos to join on a loan deal with an option to make the move permanent. Apparently Bremen's CEO has confirmed that the player is in London for talks.
http://www.ligainsider.de/thanos-petsos_647/baumann-mit-fulham-prinzipiell-einig-176415/ (http://www.ligainsider.de/thanos-petsos_647/baumann-mit-fulham-prinzipiell-einig-176415/)
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 24, 2017, 03:49:43 PMQuote from: twang on January 24, 2017, 03:37:47 PM
Petsos to join on a loan deal with an option to make the move permanent. Apparently Bremen's CEO has confirmed that the player is in London for talks.
http://www.ligainsider.de/thanos-petsos_647/baumann-mit-fulham-prinzipiell-einig-176415/ (http://www.ligainsider.de/thanos-petsos_647/baumann-mit-fulham-prinzipiell-einig-176415/)
A defender by all accounts.
Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 03:49:40 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PMIs this where you got it from
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/)
I really hate this website. Its written by fans or bloggers and is nealry always about what a club should do to get rifd or buyt other players.
There are no quotes or anything in it and then ends "What do you think of your club's plan to loan out Woodrow and Christensen?"
Now yes we know Woodrow is on way out from speculation and LVC has hardly been seen, but basically this is made up.
Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 03:49:40 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PMIs this where you got it from
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/)
I really hate this website. Its written by fans or bloggers and is nealry always about what a club should do to get rifd or buyt other players.
There are no quotes or anything in it and then ends "What do you think of your club's plan to loan out Woodrow and Christensen?"
Now yes we know Woodrow is on way out from speculation and LVC has hardly been seen, but basically this is made up.
Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 03:49:40 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PMIs this where you got it from
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/)
I really hate this website. Its written by fans or bloggers and is nealry always about what a club should do to get rifd or buyt other players.
There are no quotes or anything in it and then ends "What do you think of your club's plan to loan out Woodrow and Christensen?"
Now yes we know Woodrow is on way out from speculation and LVC has hardly been seen, but basically this is made up.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 24, 2017, 03:54:33 PM:54:Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 03:49:40 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 02:06:51 PMIs this where you got it from
Just in...Fulham want Woodrow and LVC out before end of window.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-pair-looking-set-to-depart-craven-cottage-on-loan/)
I really hate this website. Its written by fans or bloggers and is nealry always about what a club should do to get rifd or buyt other players.
There are no quotes or anything in it and then ends "What do you think of your club's plan to loan out Woodrow and Christensen?"
Now yes we know Woodrow is on way out from speculation and LVC has hardly been seen, but basically this is made up.
This is 'made up'. How very old fashioned of you. We now call this an' alternate fact'.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 08:50:49 AMMince who's on your striker wish list?
Maybe we're waiting for deadline day so we can spend 7million again on 2 players who don't feature for us.. :023:
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on January 24, 2017, 05:26:15 PM
MCCORMACK LATEST
Fulham will not be re-signing Ross McCormack this month after boss Slavisa Jokanovic consulted the opinion of his players and staff, Sky Sports News HQ understands.
The Championship club had not been that keen to bring the Scotland international back to Craven Cottage anyway after he kicked up a fuss to leave them in January 2016.
McCormack handed in a transfer request at Fulham a year ago but Jokanovic persuaded him to recommit until last summer, when he joined Aston Villa. But Fulham are struggling to find a new striker in the January window and sources have told Sky Sports News HQ that Jokanovic canvassed opinion from the dressing room on a McCormack return, and the response was negative.
Fulham had been interested in signing David Nugent from Middlesbrough this month but he signed for Derby County instead. Sky sources understand they also want to sign Boro's Jordan Rhodes but deem him too expensive after being quoted £9m.
McCormack has been criticised for his attitude by Villa boss Steve Bruce this week after he missed training. The club are prepared to let him leave.
Quote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 06:46:36 PMI agree with a lot of that. The story below comes from Tom Barclay who is a very good journo and not a click bait blogger.Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 06:31:22 PM
Like any of these stories people choose to believe the one that backs up their view.
I see where you're coming from but you must agree there are some objective criteria which make a story more or less reliable. Quotes from named sources is obviously the holy grail, but something popping up in different outlets (except where it's just a re-hash of the same story) or fitting with reasonable assumptions (eg, we're looking for a DM, we're looking in some of the other Euro leagues) make me more inclined to believe it. However a story from "Sky sources" that we were in for Nugent and Rhodes but not McCormack because the players don't like him, just stinks of lazy, shoddy journalism IMO. I'm surprised they didn't mention Agbonlahor and Jerome as well.
Quote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 07:14:27 PMno the one saying I came back in the summer and said I wanted to leave.Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 07:01:57 PMQuote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 06:46:36 PMI agree with a lot of that. The story below comes from Tom Barclay who is a very good journo and not a click bait blogger.Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2017, 06:31:22 PM
Like any of these stories people choose to believe the one that backs up their view.
I see where you're coming from but you must agree there are some objective criteria which make a story more or less reliable. Quotes from named sources is obviously the holy grail, but something popping up in different outlets (except where it's just a re-hash of the same story) or fitting with reasonable assumptions (eg, we're looking for a DM, we're looking in some of the other Euro leagues) make me more inclined to believe it. However a story from "Sky sources" that we were in for Nugent and Rhodes but not McCormack because the players don't like him, just stinks of lazy, shoddy journalism IMO. I'm surprised they didn't mention Agbonlahor and Jerome as well.
When I posted my comment I did actually write about Ross and actual comments he made about leaving last summer.... But then people said it was wrong and he was covering up for club etc etc. Actual quotes always for me make the difference.
The quotes you mention, if you mean McCormack's comments about Fulham when he signed for Villa, sounded to me just like the standard, "everyone in the team has to share the blame and that includes me (despite my goals)"
Anyway as to Barclay, I suppose he did write this which i like very much!
" Jokanovic has bred a team-first mentality that has helped produce arguably the finest football in the division"
Quote from: westcliff white on January 24, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
According to sky we are interested in Rhodes but feel the 9 million is to much
Quote from: westcliff white on January 24, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
According to sky we are interested in Rhodes but feel the 9 million is to much
Quote from: FPT on January 25, 2017, 10:32:44 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 24, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
According to sky we are interested in Rhodes but feel the 9 million is to much
What annoys me about this is - we must know how much roughly we have to spend - and we should roughly how much Jordan Rhodes would cost. To me, interest stops there if we do not have £9m to spend on one striker.
It's like when you go into a corner shop and a buy a bottle of coke for £1.20 but you've only got a quid on you. You ask, sometimes they say yes, sometimes they say no. Except what we're talking about with Fulham is the matter of hundreds of thousands or even millions of pounds rather than 20p.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 25, 2017, 11:40:22 AMHe turned them down at the end of last week, to come to us apparently, now he goes there, maybe changed his mind again and wanted the hot weather
Cédric Yambéré to Apoel Nicosia on loan.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 25, 2017, 11:40:22 AMAnother one bites the dust
Cédric Yambéré to Apoel Nicosia on loan.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 09:47:01 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 09:40:50 AMI have the wife out spending her days searching for things like this.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 24, 2017, 08:55:00 AMQuote from: Twig on January 24, 2017, 07:35:35 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2017, 04:24:03 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 23, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
Jeez I'm bored, we're not even being linked with anyone bar Mccormack anymore...
Anyone wanna make some rumours? See if the Daily Mail will pick them up...
I had a bar of Caramac hidden in Kitchen drawer,its gone.
Rumour is my missus has half inched it.
Does Caramac still exist or was this an obsolete bar from c. 1990?
You can still get Caramac at certain shops.
I guess you have to be "in teh know"? Nudge. nudge, nods as a good as a wink squire,,,,,,,,,,,
Still can't get a packet of Old English Spangles..lol
Quote from: westcliff white on January 25, 2017, 11:44:52 AMOr watched the games against QPR and Reading and thought - "Fcuk that"..... :dead horse:Quote from: river phoenix on January 25, 2017, 11:40:22 AMHe turned them down at the end of last week, to come to us apparently, now he goes there, maybe changed his mind again and wanted the hot weather
Cédric Yambéré to Apoel Nicosia on loan.
Quote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 09:36:56 PM
Well unless something changes in the next ten minutes there'll be little point making any more signings. Which was probably the aim all along. So at least we can close this thread, and any threads about the play-offs, and start talking about what new teams we'll be be playing in the championship next year. Anyone else looking forward to Scunthorpe away?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Quote from: EJL on January 25, 2017, 05:05:45 PMAgreed
Still think Kebano will come good.
Quote from: EJL on January 25, 2017, 05:05:45 PM
Still think Kebano will come good.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Think for our push on we need Championship players of experience, don't want our fingers burnt again like the money spent on Kebano and Jozabed.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:10:54 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Think for our push on we need Championship players of experience, don't want our fingers burnt again like the money spent on Kebano and Jozabed.
Remember the last time we signed experienced championship players. We finished 20th.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:32:18 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:10:54 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Think for our push on we need Championship players of experience, don't want our fingers burnt again like the money spent on Kebano and Jozabed.
Remember the last time we signed experienced championship players. We finished 20th.
And if you had your way we'd be non league with a team of weak Spanish imports who get blown over in the wind..lol
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:50:21 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:32:18 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:10:54 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Think for our push on we need Championship players of experience, don't want our fingers burnt again like the money spent on Kebano and Jozabed.
Remember the last time we signed experienced championship players. We finished 20th.
And if you had your way we'd be non league with a team of weak Spanish imports who get blown over in the wind..lol
I am just realistic, there is better value to be had working the overseas markets than buying from England.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 25, 2017, 06:00:08 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:50:21 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:32:18 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:10:54 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Think for our push on we need Championship players of experience, don't want our fingers burnt again like the money spent on Kebano and Jozabed.
Remember the last time we signed experienced championship players. We finished 20th.
And if you had your way we'd be non league with a team of weak Spanish imports who get blown over in the wind..lol
I am just realistic, there is better value to be had working the overseas markets than buying from England.
But your not realistic, Mince is right, it makes more sense to buy in England for lots of reason. Too many soft imports from abroad who want three months minimum to settle, some cannot even understand English, cannot tackle, complain of the cold and have no heart pumping in their chest, wear gloves when it's 50 degree Fahrenheit. If you look hard, there are plenty of fish in the sea in Englands Divisions. The club must remember its roots.
Quote from: Statto on January 24, 2017, 09:36:56 PMgenuinely would be buzzing for Scunthorpe away
Well unless something changes in the next ten minutes there'll be little point making any more signings. Which was probably the aim all along. So at least we can close this thread, and any threads about the play-offs, and start talking about what new teams we'll be be playing in the championship next year. Anyone else looking forward to Scunthorpe away?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 06:37:04 PM:plus one:Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 25, 2017, 06:00:08 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:50:21 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:32:18 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 05:10:54 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 25, 2017, 04:43:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PMBy 'Imports' are you suggesting that we have to buy from within the country?
Come on Fulham let's get cracking 6 days left.
Villa another 2 into day,Wolves another.
Hope were not waiting till last day to waste another 7 million on imports.
Think for our push on we need Championship players of experience, don't want our fingers burnt again like the money spent on Kebano and Jozabed.
Remember the last time we signed experienced championship players. We finished 20th.
And if you had your way we'd be non league with a team of weak Spanish imports who get blown over in the wind..lol
I am just realistic, there is better value to be had working the overseas markets than buying from England.
But your not realistic, Mince is right, it makes more sense to buy in England for lots of reason. Too many soft imports from abroad who want three months minimum to settle, some cannot even understand English, cannot tackle, complain of the cold and have no heart pumping in their chest, wear gloves when it's 50 degree Fahrenheit. If you look hard, there are plenty of fish in the sea in Englands Divisions. The club must remember its roots.
That just translates to 'I do not like foreigners' Why does the fact they don't come from England mean they have no heart. Piazon/Johansen have shown 10 times more passion than Ryan Fredericks this season. Was Karagounis a 'soft' import. Brede Hangeland? Seems to me they both had heart. Huge generalisation to say they can't tackle. Why does it effect you if a player wears gloves or not? 'Remember it's roots' we did that last summer and we finished 20th. To get out of the championship 'championship experience' is not solely enough.
In this world of evolving football we must modernise to even have a chance of promotion. Every club in England knows about English talent. Signing good home grown players with championship experience is far too expensive to be considered sustainable.
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 25, 2017, 05:10:35 PMI dont think he was frozen out as much as took time to integrate.Quote from: EJL on January 25, 2017, 05:05:45 PM
Still think Kebano will come good.
Agree as well, I never really had understood how he was frozen out of the squad completely for a while.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
Jolslover,of course we've had good imports and will again,but in this window we need players already here(they might be foreign) but already acclimatised to our league.
Other wise we taking a chance again like Kebano and Jozabed.
We haven't got time if we are to make the playoffs if the players take time to settle.
Got nothing against imports if already here.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 25, 2017, 08:09:24 PM
Mince. Wherever you are, can you tell me what's happening with Jason Cummings.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 08:19:24 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
Jolslover,of course we've had good imports and will again,but in this window we need players already here(they might be foreign) but already acclimatised to our league.
Other wise we taking a chance again like Kebano and Jozabed.
We haven't got time if we are to make the playoffs if the players take time to settle.
Got nothing against imports if already here.
Fair opinion, Not saying I agree though. See Madl last Jan for immediate impact of player coming from foreign league. Ayite more recently.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 25, 2017, 08:20:19 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 25, 2017, 08:09:24 PM
Mince. Wherever you are, can you tell me what's happening with Jason Cummings.
My Scottish compatriot says Hibs want to keep for getting them up to Premier,apparently though Red Bull Leipzig are interested.
Wherever I am..lol
I'm at home where you?
Quote from: @jolslover on January 25, 2017, 06:37:04 PMI'm with you, dude. I immediately thought of Karagounis too - as we seem to have just signed another Greek 'enforcer' on loan. The English 'gene pool' is much too small to find a game-changing bargain. The indigenous talent is invariably over-priced so it makes sense to look abroad where there is a much better chance that a quality player will have slipped through under the radar - to add another not overly helpful metaphor to the mix.
That just translates to 'I do not like foreigners' Why does the fact they don't come from England mean they have no heart. Piazon/Johansen have shown 10 times more passion than Ryan Fredericks this season. Was Karagounis a 'soft' import. Brede Hangeland? Seems to me they both had heart. Huge generalisation to say they can't tackle. Why does it effect you if a player wears gloves or not? 'Remember it's roots' we did that last summer and we finished 20th. To get out of the championship 'championship experience' is not solely enough.
In this world of evolving football we must modernise to even have a chance of promotion. Every club in England knows about English talent. Signing good home grown players with championship experience is far too expensive to be considered sustainable.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 12:17:04 PM
Definitely one will be coming.
Hilda is being given an assistant,we have agreed a fee of 5,000 tea bags for Doncaster's tea lady Hetty McCorkindale.
Apparently only uses extra strong Yorkshire Tea Bags.
Welcome to the club Hetty... 049:gif
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2017, 03:37:37 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 12:17:04 PM
Definitely one will be coming.
Hilda is being given an assistant,we have agreed a fee of 5,000 tea bags for Doncaster's tea lady Hetty McCorkindale.
Apparently only uses extra strong Yorkshire Tea Bags.
Welcome to the club Hetty... 049:gif
Yes welcolme Hetty, and please remember, you cannot smoke your pipe in the tea room.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 12:17:04 PMWill she down teapots and throw the tea strainer out of the pram if she gets a sniff of a better deal later in the season, I bet her agent is already working behind the scene to negotiate a move to a premier league club with a bigger teapot and fruit scones.
Definitely one will be coming.
Hilda is being given an assistant,we have agreed a fee of 5,000 tea bags for Doncaster's tea lady Hetty McCorkindale.
Apparently only uses extra strong Yorkshire Tea Bags.
Welcome to the club Hetty... 049:gif
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 12:17:04 PMLol
Definitely one will be coming.
Hilda is being given an assistant,we have agreed a fee of 5,000 tea bags for Doncaster's tea lady Hetty McCorkindale.
Apparently only uses extra strong Yorkshire Tea Bags.
Welcome to the club Hetty... 049:gif
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 04:00:36 PMHe's scored 7 goals this season, I think we should be aiming higher than that
As I said before I heard at the Barnsley game we were interested in PNE striker Jordan Hugill,I see they just turned down a 2 million bid from Ipswich for him.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 26, 2017, 04:25:33 PMAny striker we want should be aiming lower if he wants more than 7 goals.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 04:00:36 PMHe's scored 7 goals this season, I think we should be aiming higher than that
As I said before I heard at the Barnsley game we were interested in PNE striker Jordan Hugill,I see they just turned down a 2 million bid from Ipswich for him.
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 26, 2017, 04:25:33 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 04:00:36 PMHe's scored 7 goals this season, I think we should be aiming higher than that
As I said before I heard at the Barnsley game we were interested in PNE striker Jordan Hugill,I see they just turned down a 2 million bid from Ipswich for him.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 04:34:36 PMQuote from: AlexW132 on January 26, 2017, 04:25:33 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2017, 04:00:36 PMHe's scored 7 goals this season, I think we should be aiming higher than that
As I said before I heard at the Barnsley game we were interested in PNE striker Jordan Hugill,I see they just turned down a 2 million bid from Ipswich for him.
That's not up to date scored both goals against Villa last Saturday, they might be on you tube.
I saw on FLS looks pacey and good strike for his first.
Same type passage as Vardy,non league
then Port Vale now Preston.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 26, 2017, 05:12:50 PMIn a big fat 0
OUT
Jozabed - Celta Vigo
Humphrys - Shrewsbury
Tunnicliffe - Wigan
RUMOURED OUT
LVC - Burton
Woodrow - Ipswich (probably dead deal)
Quote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2017, 05:19:16 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 26, 2017, 05:12:50 PMIn a big fat 0
OUT
Jozabed - Celta Vigo
Humphrys - Shrewsbury
Tunnicliffe - Wigan
RUMOURED OUT
LVC - Burton
Woodrow - Ipswich (probably dead deal)
Quote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2017, 05:19:16 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 26, 2017, 05:12:50 PMIn a big fat 0
OUT
Jozabed - Celta Vigo
Humphrys - Shrewsbury
Tunnicliffe - Wigan
RUMOURED OUT
LVC - Burton
Woodrow - Ipswich (probably dead deal)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 27, 2017, 08:20:04 AMOnly seen the LVC link, woodrow permanent? where is the news?
LVC and Woodrow both to Burton Albion.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 27, 2017, 08:20:04 AM
LVC and Woodrow both to Burton Albion.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 27, 2017, 10:16:04 AMVery Talented, just cant get his life / head straight
Ravel Morrison training with QPR to try get contract.
They be desperate to take that no-gooder back imo.
Quote from: fulhamross on January 27, 2017, 10:27:02 AMLoads of players do, Dele Alli, Alexis Sanchez, Ravel Morrison, Javier Hernandez, Lassana Diarra, and Bryan Ruiz of course.
Why is he allowed to have his first name on the back of his shirt?
Quote from: ffc2004 on January 27, 2017, 02:03:24 PM
LVC and Woodrow confirmed to Burton on loan
Quote from: brightster on January 27, 2017, 02:16:18 PM
Is that 6 out and 1 in in this window ?
we are freeing up some wages, perhaps Rhodes is now a possibillaty!
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 27, 2017, 03:10:43 PMQuote from: brightster on January 27, 2017, 02:16:18 PM
Is that 6 out and 1 in in this window ?
we are freeing up some wages, perhaps Rhodes is now a possibillaty!
Come on Mr Defoe......... In you come !!!! :)
Quote from: brightster on January 27, 2017, 03:11:40 PMNo chance for Humphrys then as he's gone on loan to Shrewsbury! Not far from me and I think I'll go to their next home game to see how he does.
On Loan XI
Rodak
Grimmer-Stearman--Burgess-Sheckleford
LVC-Tunnicliffe-Jozabed-Cole
Woodrow-Humphrys
Out of these who do you think will play for us again!
I think only Humphrys has a chance but only if he performs at Burton, I know it's harsh but if we want to progress we need a better squad because at the moment our starting 11 are looking very tired during the past 2 games.
Quote from: MJG on January 27, 2017, 02:27:55 PMAlso Elijah Adebayo at Slough Town
On Loan XI
Rodak
Grimmer-Stearman--Burgess-Sheckleford
LVC-Tunnicliffe-Jozabed-Cole
Woodrow-Humphrys
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 27, 2017, 04:56:30 PMWe paid big money for Stearman so come June he is either back with us or Wolves need to find some money to buy him back. Also LVC must be worth a few pounds, hard to think he is not worth a place on the bench from time to time.Quote from: MJG on January 27, 2017, 02:27:55 PMAlso Elijah Adebayo at Slough Town
On Loan XI
Rodak
Grimmer-Stearman--Burgess-Sheckleford
LVC-Tunnicliffe-Jozabed-Cole
Woodrow-Humphrys
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 27, 2017, 05:01:50 PMHe got the winning goal against Boro in the EFL cup, never should have been frozen out
I have a feeling Christensen will play well for burton, hope he does as he never found that form he once had again.
Quote from: filham on January 27, 2017, 05:09:29 PMPlease... no more loans
Saturday, Sunday, Monday or Tuesday when is it going to happen. Or can loan deals still take place after the window closes.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 27, 2017, 05:24:56 PM
Twitter:
Aston Villa have had a bid accepted for Middlesbrough striker Jordan Rhodes #AVFC
Quote from: Hoppus on January 27, 2017, 05:24:56 PMFair play to them. Wish we would show that kind of ambition
Twitter:
Aston Villa have had a bid accepted for Middlesbrough striker Jordan Rhodes #AVFC
Quote from: fulhamben on January 27, 2017, 05:31:56 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 27, 2017, 05:24:56 PMFair play to them. Wish we would show that kind of ambition
Twitter:
Aston Villa have had a bid accepted for Middlesbrough striker Jordan Rhodes #AVFC
Quote from: Hoppus on January 27, 2017, 05:24:56 PM
Twitter:
Aston Villa have had a bid accepted for Middlesbrough striker Jordan Rhodes #AVFC
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 27, 2017, 05:29:46 PMQuote from: Hoppus on January 27, 2017, 05:24:56 PM
Twitter:
Aston Villa have had a bid accepted for Middlesbrough striker Jordan Rhodes #AVFC
After the failure of Ross you would think they would have learned the lesson. But why were we so concerned with the Financial rules when Villa are spending more money now then they ever did in the Prem.
Quote from: mkras99 on January 27, 2017, 07:29:26 PMSaw this guy play at Southend this year, scored a last minute leveller. He had a decent game aside form scoring, passed well, got crosses in and tried a lot of shots from distance. Moody though in that he was argumentative and spiteful
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/27/report-fulham-leading-the-chase-for-peterborough-united-winger-m/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/27/report-fulham-leading-the-chase-for-peterborough-united-winger-m/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Quote from: Bracken White on January 27, 2017, 07:17:49 PMno way will Derby give us another one of their strikers, and after the last one they lent us, I'm not sure that I want another of their cast offs
Vydra to Fulham? Surely, even by our standards something must be afoot. Departure of Humphreys & Woodrow would appear to leave us alarmingly short of strikers. Jokanovic & Vydra know each other well, so not beyond the bounds of possibility?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 27, 2017, 05:31:56 PMIts interesting, in terms of style I think Rhodes is exactly the same type of player as Martin. Therefore I dnot see us paying big money for him to be the same option and therefore one of him or Martin on the bench. What we need is someone who is quicker and can break behind from Martin's knock downs or be part of 442 or be a different option. Someone who in my mind is a mixture of the best of Aluko and Ayite. If he can take penalties as well I would be over the moon...so not sure its ambition lacking rather it was never our plan.Quote from: Hoppus on January 27, 2017, 05:24:56 PMFair play to them. Wish we would show that kind of ambition
Twitter:
Aston Villa have had a bid accepted for Middlesbrough striker Jordan Rhodes #AVFC
Quote from: westcliff white on January 27, 2017, 10:17:08 PM
What is a big name? You pay 6-8 million for a Average players these days
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 27, 2017, 10:59:17 PM
I don't want anymore loans, as this leaves our squad very thin at the end of the season.
Quote from: mkras99 on January 27, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/27/report-fulham-leading-the-chase-for-peterborough-united-winger-m/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/27/report-fulham-leading-the-chase-for-peterborough-united-winger-m/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Quote from: westcliff white on January 27, 2017, 10:17:08 PMTFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
What is a big name? You pay 6-8 million for a Average players these days
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2017, 11:34:45 PMQuote from: mkras99 on January 27, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/27/report-fulham-leading-the-chase-for-peterborough-united-winger-m/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/27/report-fulham-leading-the-chase-for-peterborough-united-winger-m/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Decent player. England C player 23, can play anywhere along the left, aggressive, competitive and physical, also he can cross a ball.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 28, 2017, 10:08:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 27, 2017, 10:17:08 PMTFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
What is a big name? You pay 6-8 million for a Average players these days
Fulham are the new 1/2 favourites to sign Robbie Keane.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 28, 2017, 10:17:11 AM
If we end up with somebody like Robbie Keane. We will know we didn't get any of the players we wanted and have turned to a panic signing to fill a space in the squad.
Quote from: Riversider on January 28, 2017, 01:27:48 PMI agree- and remember McBride was no spring chicken when he signed for us.
Never really taken much interest or notice of Robbie Keane, couldn't tell you the last time I saw him play, but what I will say is this , there were a lot of raised eyebrows when Glasgow Rangers resigned Kenny Miller, people were concerned about his age, his fitness and his desire for the game,
Well all those doubts have been put to one side now, Kenny Miller has been outstanding for Rangers this season, easily the best player, and I understand he has already been offered another year, the reason I mention Miller is this, him and Keane are the same age, they are the same build and play in the same position with a similar style of game, in fact Miller, Keane and Defoe are all similar players and all a similar age,
If Keane can offer half of the pace and movement to Fulham that Miller offers to Rangers then it's a yes from me, he will certainly add a few to our support,
Wish we had signed him a week or so ago so that he could have taken the penalties given against QPHa and Reading.
Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 02:32:20 PMmcbride was something like 31 or 32 when he joine, Keane will be 37 in 6 monthsQuote from: Riversider on January 28, 2017, 01:27:48 PMI agree- and remember McBride was no spring chicken when he signed for us.
Never really taken much interest or notice of Robbie Keane, couldn't tell you the last time I saw him play, but what I will say is this , there were a lot of raised eyebrows when Glasgow Rangers resigned Kenny Miller, people were concerned about his age, his fitness and his desire for the game,
Well all those doubts have been put to one side now, Kenny Miller has been outstanding for Rangers this season, easily the best player, and I understand he has already been offered another year, the reason I mention Miller is this, him and Keane are the same age, they are the same build and play in the same position with a similar style of game, in fact Miller, Keane and Defoe are all similar players and all a similar age,
If Keane can offer half of the pace and movement to Fulham that Miller offers to Rangers then it's a yes from me, he will certainly add a few to our support,
Wish we had signed him a week or so ago so that he could have taken the penalties given against QPHa and Reading.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 28, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
Keane ? No thanks from me.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 28, 2017, 10:08:01 AMChrist big name past it players, might as well go for adebuyour if trueQuote from: westcliff white on January 27, 2017, 10:17:08 PMTFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
What is a big name? You pay 6-8 million for a Average players these days
Fulham are the new 1/2 favourites to sign Robbie Keane.
Quote from: Tooting legend on January 28, 2017, 03:29:21 PMhe had a serious knee injury recently and looked distinctly average in a average league. he did score a 6 or 7 goals in 14 odd games in the MLS last season, but wasn't the player he was the previous 2 seasons
Id have him in a heart beat his goal scoring record says it all. Would do a grest job in the championship.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 28, 2017, 10:12:58 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 28, 2017, 10:08:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 27, 2017, 10:17:08 PMTFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
What is a big name? You pay 6-8 million for a Average players these days
Fulham are the new 1/2 favourites to sign Robbie Keane.
Yep just seen that.
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 28, 2017, 03:43:26 PMlol, if he wants 50k a week, he might Aswell retire now as no one will want he for thatQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 28, 2017, 10:12:58 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 28, 2017, 10:08:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 27, 2017, 10:17:08 PMTFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham
What is a big name? You pay 6-8 million for a Average players these days
Fulham are the new 1/2 favourites to sign Robbie Keane.
Yep just seen that.
No forward or long term thinking by the board if this is who we end up with after 6 months of hunting for reinforcements for our severely depleted forward line.
He'll probably pick up a few goals for us but at a reported £50k a week, seems to be a move in the wrong direction.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 02:38:10 PMKeane would be 5 years older than McBride was when he joined. Mcbride was 36 (same age as Keane is now) in his last season for us and, after his return from injury, was one of the reasons we stayed up.Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 02:32:20 PMmcbride was something like 31 or 32 when he joine, Keane will be 37 in 6 monthsQuote from: Riversider on January 28, 2017, 01:27:48 PMI agree- and remember McBride was no spring chicken when he signed for us.
Never really taken much interest or notice of Robbie Keane, couldn't tell you the last time I saw him play, but what I will say is this , there were a lot of raised eyebrows when Glasgow Rangers resigned Kenny Miller, people were concerned about his age, his fitness and his desire for the game,
Well all those doubts have been put to one side now, Kenny Miller has been outstanding for Rangers this season, easily the best player, and I understand he has already been offered another year, the reason I mention Miller is this, him and Keane are the same age, they are the same build and play in the same position with a similar style of game, in fact Miller, Keane and Defoe are all similar players and all a similar age,
If Keane can offer half of the pace and movement to Fulham that Miller offers to Rangers then it's a yes from me, he will certainly add a few to our support,
Wish we had signed him a week or so ago so that he could have taken the penalties given against QPHa and Reading.
Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 04:29:04 PMhe scored 4 in 17 that season. You could easily argue that the fact that we retained him as first choice striker that season is the reason we flirted with relegation in the first place. I can't believe anyone would entertain signing Keane. Might Aswell go for Bradley Wright Phillips who always out scores him in the mls. And he is a third division player at best.Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 02:38:10 PMKeane would be 5 years older than McBride was when he joined. Mcbride was 36 (same age as Keane is now) in his last season for us and, after his return from injury, was one of the reasons we stayed up.Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 02:32:20 PMmcbride was something like 31 or 32 when he joine, Keane will be 37 in 6 monthsQuote from: Riversider on January 28, 2017, 01:27:48 PMI agree- and remember McBride was no spring chicken when he signed for us.
Never really taken much interest or notice of Robbie Keane, couldn't tell you the last time I saw him play, but what I will say is this , there were a lot of raised eyebrows when Glasgow Rangers resigned Kenny Miller, people were concerned about his age, his fitness and his desire for the game,
Well all those doubts have been put to one side now, Kenny Miller has been outstanding for Rangers this season, easily the best player, and I understand he has already been offered another year, the reason I mention Miller is this, him and Keane are the same age, they are the same build and play in the same position with a similar style of game, in fact Miller, Keane and Defoe are all similar players and all a similar age,
If Keane can offer half of the pace and movement to Fulham that Miller offers to Rangers then it's a yes from me, he will certainly add a few to our support,
Wish we had signed him a week or so ago so that he could have taken the penalties given against QPHa and Reading.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 04:38:22 PMQuote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 04:29:04 PMhe scored 4 in 17 that season. You could easily argue that the fact that we retained him as first choice striker that season is the reason we flirted with relegation in the first place. I can't believe anyone would entertain signing Keane. Might Aswell go for Bradley Wright Phillips who always out scores him in the mls. And he is a third division player at best.Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 02:38:10 PMKeane would be 5 years older than McBride was when he joined. Mcbride was 36 (same age as Keane is now) in his last season for us and, after his return from injury, was one of the reasons we stayed up.Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 02:32:20 PMmcbride was something like 31 or 32 when he joine, Keane will be 37 in 6 monthsQuote from: Riversider on January 28, 2017, 01:27:48 PMI agree- and remember McBride was no spring chicken when he signed for us.
Never really taken much interest or notice of Robbie Keane, couldn't tell you the last time I saw him play, but what I will say is this , there were a lot of raised eyebrows when Glasgow Rangers resigned Kenny Miller, people were concerned about his age, his fitness and his desire for the game,
Well all those doubts have been put to one side now, Kenny Miller has been outstanding for Rangers this season, easily the best player, and I understand he has already been offered another year, the reason I mention Miller is this, him and Keane are the same age, they are the same build and play in the same position with a similar style of game, in fact Miller, Keane and Defoe are all similar players and all a similar age,
If Keane can offer half of the pace and movement to Fulham that Miller offers to Rangers then it's a yes from me, he will certainly add a few to our support,
Wish we had signed him a week or so ago so that he could have taken the penalties given against QPHa and Reading.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 28, 2017, 04:45:28 PMMy sentiments exactly.Keane will NOT happen.
Wasn't McCormack odds on at the bookies?!
Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 05:05:57 PMI'm slightly suprised that you can compare one old player to another. Why not compare Keane to Sir Stanley Matthews and pretend he will win us the fa cup. And yes, for all you know, we could have signed another player if mcbride had not of stayed for the last year, who could have gone on to bag 30 goals. It always amazes me when people refer to instances like the one you mentioned with mcbride. As of we would have only played with ten men had he not have been here. We would have replaced him, and I bet my house on it that his replacement would have scored more than 4 goals all seasonQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 04:38:22 PMQuote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 04:29:04 PMhe scored 4 in 17 that season. You could easily argue that the fact that we retained him as first choice striker that season is the reason we flirted with relegation in the first place. I can't believe anyone would entertain signing Keane. Might Aswell go for Bradley Wright Phillips who always out scores him in the mls. And he is a third division player at best.Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 02:38:10 PMKeane would be 5 years older than McBride was when he joined. Mcbride was 36 (same age as Keane is now) in his last season for us and, after his return from injury, was one of the reasons we stayed up.Quote from: The Old Count on January 28, 2017, 02:32:20 PMmcbride was something like 31 or 32 when he joine, Keane will be 37 in 6 monthsQuote from: Riversider on January 28, 2017, 01:27:48 PMI agree- and remember McBride was no spring chicken when he signed for us.
Never really taken much interest or notice of Robbie Keane, couldn't tell you the last time I saw him play, but what I will say is this , there were a lot of raised eyebrows when Glasgow Rangers resigned Kenny Miller, people were concerned about his age, his fitness and his desire for the game,
Well all those doubts have been put to one side now, Kenny Miller has been outstanding for Rangers this season, easily the best player, and I understand he has already been offered another year, the reason I mention Miller is this, him and Keane are the same age, they are the same build and play in the same position with a similar style of game, in fact Miller, Keane and Defoe are all similar players and all a similar age,
If Keane can offer half of the pace and movement to Fulham that Miller offers to Rangers then it's a yes from me, he will certainly add a few to our support,
Wish we had signed him a week or so ago so that he could have taken the penalties given against QPHa and Reading.
Slightly surprised at your comment about McBride being the reason we flirted with relegation in 2008. Not the case at all.
Agree though, that we should be after someone better than Keane.
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Quote from: corbs83 on January 28, 2017, 05:57:22 PMGood movement? seriously? he didn't show that in the MLS last season, the serious knee injury hasn't helped and age has caught him up. The injury he has had for me alone make sit a no go at his age. If we sign him it is in desperation, better of going for Adebuyour at least he is relatively fit and a couple of years younger, and I don't want him either
I'd sign him for what it's worth. Absolute poacher
and still has good movement. Age is one thing but how many would sign lampard who is older (forgetting his chelsea links). Yes we would prefer Rhodes, assambolonga, Wells etc but if they aren't going to happen, Keane would be an upgrade on Smith, woodrow et al
Experience could easily make up for the yard or two of pace he has lost
Anyway, just my view
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Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on January 28, 2017, 06:24:38 PM
Did we miss our option to buy Martin? How can he sign a new contract if there is an agreement for us to buy him!
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 28, 2017, 06:38:40 PMThe story / rumour went that he had agreed terms, for a permanent deal, with us before he signed the loan deal. That is the money the agent wanted increased and the loan made permanent while he wasn't playing.Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on January 28, 2017, 06:24:38 PM
Did we miss our option to buy Martin? How can he sign a new contract if there is an agreement for us to buy him!
Either that or perhaps it's his way to tell us that even if we exercise our option, he is not interested in discussing terms with us!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 28, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
Keep him and during training break the stnuc legs!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 28, 2017, 07:14:05 PM:plus one:
Keep him and during training break the stnuc legs!
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 28, 2017, 06:43:30 PM
We definitely need two strikers now.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 06:41:31 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 28, 2017, 06:38:40 PMThe story / rumour went that he had agreed terms, for a permanent deal, with us before he signed the loan deal. That is the money the agent wanted increased and the loan made permanent while he wasn't playing.Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on January 28, 2017, 06:24:38 PM
Did we miss our option to buy Martin? How can he sign a new contract if there is an agreement for us to buy him!
Either that or perhaps it's his way to tell us that even if we exercise our option, he is not interested in discussing terms with us!
All very strange, maybe because McLaren is back he will play for them which Pearson told him he wouldn't and that's why he left for us thinking it was over there. Either way don't send him back, sign someone and don't play him.
Quote from: Newry FFC on January 28, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
regardless of who has said what, why and what contracts are signed, he isn't good enough for us or them. We need more strikers, and although it's difficult to find and sign them , there is plenty about. We have had time to take action and react to martins strike, and we have done nothing.
He's burned his bridges and we can dig our heels in if we want but it won't score more goals, so yes deny him the opportunity to go back to derby but for heavens sake do something to improve our striking options. If we don't want him, don't ship out all the youngsters, get a replacement or give the youth a chance to stake their claim .
Quote from: Yonderwhite on January 28, 2017, 09:44:10 PMThis is all very weird, if as was rumoured back in August he agreed and signed a deal with us for if we wish to take up the option his new contract would be worth diddly squat.
Sky Sports Transfer Centre just now:
MORE ON MARTIN DEAL
After Chris Martin signed a new contract with Derby today, a Fulham spokesperson has told the Press Association tonight:
"The signing of a new contract with Derby County does not impact on the terms of the loan arrangement agreed by both clubs.
"Chris Martin will be at Fulham for the remainder of the season and the club still has an option to purchase."
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 09:50:11 PMBut options aren't set in stone, the buying club and player can still turn it downQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 28, 2017, 09:44:10 PMThis is all very weird, if as was rumoured back in August he agreed and signed a deal with us for if we wish to take up the option his new contract would be worth diddly squat.
Sky Sports Transfer Centre just now:
MORE ON MARTIN DEAL
After Chris Martin signed a new contract with Derby today, a Fulham spokesperson has told the Press Association tonight:
"The signing of a new contract with Derby County does not impact on the terms of the loan arrangement agreed by both clubs.
"Chris Martin will be at Fulham for the remainder of the season and the club still has an option to purchase."
Personally don't care, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and welcomed him back as I felt that right, but now I don't want him sent back I want him playing for the reserves and if he refuses too then we get the PFA involved. Let him rot and see what condition he will be in.
I personally don't think Slav has lied to the fans, I think Martin has said the right things to play and Slav thought he was coming round, reckon Slav is spitting feathers now tonight.
Quote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 28, 2017, 09:28:42 PM
C'mon Mince, can we at least wait until the window is well and truely shut before all the doom, gloom and blame all n sundry?
You never know we may all be really happy with what happens over the next few days!?
Possibly not, but even if not there's nowt you or I can do!
It's important to support the team, especially as we play tomorrow - this stuff can wait until after that and the window closes, surely?
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Of course I will be supporting the team Brede I always will regardless of who in charge.
Yes we may be signing someone and it works out good,but this fiasco is down to Fulham not just Martin and Derby.
They should have sent the scroat back to Derby when he went on strike,instead of fobbing us off that all was resolved with Martin and it obviously wasn't.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:51:38 PMNot when you have the option to buy, they can't. They (Derby) have agreed contractually to sell him to us if we wish to make it permanent, so if we make an offer at the limited stated they have to accept. The only conjecture here is that he as was rumoured to have agreed a contract with us, salary length of deal prior to signing the loan deal, if he has done that and signed it then it will get very messy. I am sure there was a very similar case in the nineties with an Eastern European signing for two clubs, not saying Martin has done this, but Derby for sure can't refuse our bid if it meets there clause in the contractQuote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 09:50:11 PMBut options aren't set in stone, the buying club and player can still turn it downQuote from: Yonderwhite on January 28, 2017, 09:44:10 PMThis is all very weird, if as was rumoured back in August he agreed and signed a deal with us for if we wish to take up the option his new contract would be worth diddly squat.
Sky Sports Transfer Centre just now:
MORE ON MARTIN DEAL
After Chris Martin signed a new contract with Derby today, a Fulham spokesperson has told the Press Association tonight:
"The signing of a new contract with Derby County does not impact on the terms of the loan arrangement agreed by both clubs.
"Chris Martin will be at Fulham for the remainder of the season and the club still has an option to purchase."
Personally don't care, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and welcomed him back as I felt that right, but now I don't want him sent back I want him playing for the reserves and if he refuses too then we get the PFA involved. Let him rot and see what condition he will be in.
I personally don't think Slav has lied to the fans, I think Martin has said the right things to play and Slav thought he was coming round, reckon Slav is spitting feathers now tonight.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 28, 2017, 10:38:14 PMHowever if her and her husband (her being the player and the husband the club) sign a contract giving you that option then they cannot refuse you if all clauses in said contract are met, if they did it would be breach of contract.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
I have an option to sleep with Margot Robbie. Both her and her husband have to agree to it, but I have that option.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 10:39:53 PMQuote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 28, 2017, 10:38:14 PMHowever if her and her husband (her being the player and the husband the club) sign a contract giving you that option then they cannot refuse you if all clause are there fore metQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
I have an option to sleep with Margot Robbie. Both her and her husband have to agree to it, but I have that option.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 10:39:53 PMHistory tells us that she can if she has a headache!Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 28, 2017, 10:38:14 PMHowever if her and her husband (her being the player and the husband the club) sign a contract giving you that option then they cannot refuse you if all clauses in said contract are met, if they did it would be breach of contract.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
I have an option to sleep with Margot Robbie. Both her and her husband have to agree to it, but I have that option.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Quote from: Jem on January 28, 2017, 10:45:07 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 10:39:53 PMHistory tells us that she can if she has a headache!Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 28, 2017, 10:38:14 PMHowever if her and her husband (her being the player and the husband the club) sign a contract giving you that option then they cannot refuse you if all clauses in said contract are met, if they did it would be breach of contract.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
I have an option to sleep with Margot Robbie. Both her and her husband have to agree to it, but I have that option.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PM:plus one:Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMMartin could veto if he hasn't signed any type of contract / pre co treat agreeing a deal with us ta for certain. But any options are all on our side as it was stated when we loaned him.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 11:05:01 PMIf Martin had of signed a pre contract then Derby wouldn't even be trying to get him back as it would be fruitless and Fulham would have put this all to be weeks ago because we would have legality behind us. We clearly don't, as we are where we are now. Unless you think for some reason Fulham would hide a binding contract through these turbulent times.but yes legally Derby would have to sell him to us for a pre set fee. But once again there is no legally binding contract signed by martinQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMMartin could veto if he hasn't signed any type of contract / pre co treat agreeing a deal with us ta for certain. But any options are all on our side as it was stated when we loaned him.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Derby can't refuse the deal, they signed a loan deal with us saying we can buy at then end for a set fee, if we wish to take that option then they cannot refuse.
The player side is more complicated. If he hasn't signed any form of contract then he can fail to agree terms and that's that. If he has then he cannot simply say no, as he is legally bound by the terms he signed.
So all depends what wa wagered with Martin and his agent prior and what was signed, in a lot of cases with late deals the agents sign on behalf of the client, maybe his agent has made a mistake. All will come out and no,point in us poor FFC fans bickering over what's what.
All we want is the team to,play well and win, and hopefully rectify this situation asap
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 11:11:11 PMBen quite clearly I have not said Martin has signed a contract, I said if he has. what I did say was Derby cannot refuse any bid that meets the required set fee.Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 11:05:01 PMIf Martin had of signed a pre contract then Derby wouldn't even be trying to get him back as it would be fruitless and Fulham would have put this all to be weeks ago because we would have legality behind us. We clearly don't, as we are where we are now. Unless you think for some reason Fulham would hide a binding contract through these turbulent times.but yes legally Derby would have to sell him to us for a pre set fee. But once again there is no legally binding contract signed by martinQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMMartin could veto if he hasn't signed any type of contract / pre co treat agreeing a deal with us ta for certain. But any options are all on our side as it was stated when we loaned him.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Derby can't refuse the deal, they signed a loan deal with us saying we can buy at then end for a set fee, if we wish to take that option then they cannot refuse.
The player side is more complicated. If he hasn't signed any form of contract then he can fail to agree terms and that's that. If he has then he cannot simply say no, as he is legally bound by the terms he signed.
So all depends what wa wagered with Martin and his agent prior and what was signed, in a lot of cases with late deals the agents sign on behalf of the client, maybe his agent has made a mistake. All will come out and no,point in us poor FFC fans bickering over what's what.
All we want is the team to,play well and win, and hopefully rectify this situation asap
Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 11:15:03 PMYes fair enough mate. I think the situation being what it is puts end to all speculation though. That and I know that he hasn't signed a pre contract ( because yes it was the first thing I mentioned to said family member when I was informed that Martin was off) I'm done with this situation now. I just hope we have a decent replacement lined up, as I will be extremely disappointed in the club if they allow him to Don our shirt again. It's all about the fa cup for me for the next 14 hoursQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 11:11:11 PMBen quite clearly I have not said Martin has signed a contract, I said if he has. what I did say was Derby cannot refuse any bid that meets the required set fee.Quote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 11:05:01 PMIf Martin had of signed a pre contract then Derby wouldn't even be trying to get him back as it would be fruitless and Fulham would have put this all to be weeks ago because we would have legality behind us. We clearly don't, as we are where we are now. Unless you think for some reason Fulham would hide a binding contract through these turbulent times.but yes legally Derby would have to sell him to us for a pre set fee. But once again there is no legally binding contract signed by martinQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMMartin could veto if he hasn't signed any type of contract / pre co treat agreeing a deal with us ta for certain. But any options are all on our side as it was stated when we loaned him.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Derby can't refuse the deal, they signed a loan deal with us saying we can buy at then end for a set fee, if we wish to take that option then they cannot refuse.
The player side is more complicated. If he hasn't signed any form of contract then he can fail to agree terms and that's that. If he has then he cannot simply say no, as he is legally bound by the terms he signed.
So all depends what wa wagered with Martin and his agent prior and what was signed, in a lot of cases with late deals the agents sign on behalf of the client, maybe his agent has made a mistake. All will come out and no,point in us poor FFC fans bickering over what's what.
All we want is the team to,play well and win, and hopefully rectify this situation asap
I was just speculating if he had or if the rumours when he signed were true what the situation would be
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 11:19:12 PMOk then they could say the contracts are signed and he would be a fulham player next season should we choose to take up the option. Do you honestly think the club would let Derby and Martin play us like they are if they did?Quote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
How do you know the option isn't legally binding? That word is used for legally binding deals in other fields.
The club won't say that he will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season exactly because we have an option. That means if the move were not to work out (!) or the player got a career ending injury then we would not have to take up the option.
Quote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 11:40:41 PMif that was the case, then why havent the club ever mentioned that, ever? I've seen plenty of comments saying we hope he signs for us, but not one saying he already has. And again why haven't the club put it to bed if it's the case, why did slavisa say last week that and I'll quote " I expect Martin to play for us again this Season". That doesnt even sound like he's sure he will be here next week let alone next season. Oh yes and Rigg has said he has no pre contract ( although loads will not believe me on the Rigg thing even though I'm 6 for 6 on insider info). There is absolutely no evidence to suggest we have anything other than an agreed fee in place for Martin, and lots to suggest that there is no pre contract. And I don't even know why anyone would even want one in there as it would be the quickest transfer request known in footballQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 11:11:11 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 28, 2017, 11:05:01 PMIf Martin had of signed a pre contract then Derby wouldn't even be trying to get him back as it would be fruitless and Fulham would have put this all to be weeks ago because we would have legality behind us. We clearly don't, as we are where we are now. Unless you think for some reason Fulham would hide a binding contract through these turbulent times.but yes legally Derby would have to sell him to us for a pre set fee. But once again there is no legally binding contract signed by martinQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 10:54:07 PMMartin could veto if he hasn't signed any type of contract / pre co treat agreeing a deal with us ta for certain. But any options are all on our side as it was stated when we loaned him.Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 10:36:13 PMI'd imagine if more cases like Martins happen then the fa would look into the option. In over 30 odd years of football, I can't recall one other instance of a club who is willing to sell a player, puts them out on loan with an option and then changes their mind half way through and gives him a pay rise and tells him to come home. If as you say the option is legally binding (which it isn't) then why don't the club come out and say, martin has signed a contract and will be a fully fledged Fulham player at the end of the season once the final payment has gone through. They won't because they don't and the player like us have a veto on itQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 09:55:48 PMoptions still have to be signed off by the two player and buying club though. The only difference with Martin is that the selling club have changed their mind, but don't have a veto
My guess, and this is just a guess based on the sky sports quote, is we do indeed still have the option on terms pre-agreed with both the player and Derby, and therefore as Westcliff says the new contract with Derby means nothing... except what it does do is make clear the player doesn't want to play for us, and Derby and Martin will both know that even a circus like us wouldn't pay £6m to finalise a deal for a player that's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be here
Another statement made with such confidence.
Wouldn't it seem to be an overstatement to say "the club has an option" if some other party, in this case the player, can opt out. To say 'option' in such circumstances would be just meaningless.
Derby can't refuse the deal, they signed a loan deal with us saying we can buy at then end for a set fee, if we wish to take that option then they cannot refuse.
The player side is more complicated. If he hasn't signed any form of contract then he can fail to agree terms and that's that. If he has then he cannot simply say no, as he is legally bound by the terms he signed.
So all depends what wa wagered with Martin and his agent prior and what was signed, in a lot of cases with late deals the agents sign on behalf of the client, maybe his agent has made a mistake. All will come out and no,point in us poor FFC fans bickering over what's what.
All we want is the team to,play well and win, and hopefully rectify this situation asap
Er hold on. Tapping up generally involves a player who's fully, permanently, legally, contractually committed to another club. The idea is you turn their head and get them to breach that contract or to help you get them out of it. And that is exactly what Derby have done. I see no evidence that we don't have "legality" behind us. On the contrary I can see us using exactly that "legality" to insist the player is staying here until the end of season. Beyond that our "legality" is conditional on paying £6m, and who in their right mind would pay £6m for a player who doesn't want to play for you and has refused to play? As I said all this is just us speculating but Westcliff's original theory that Martin pre-agreed terms with us in September still seems the most likely to me. Not that it really makes any bloody difference to any of this!
Quote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 11:52:39 PMno one is disputing that. It's whether or not Martin has signed a pre contract, which he hasn'tQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 11:41:32 PM
Looking back at the news item on the official on his signing and Martin's player profile both only say that he is on a season long loan. There is no mention of an option.
Maybe that is the explanation for the situation.
The moral of the story is don't take a loan from one of your potential rivals?
The club has confirmed today that we have an option to buy. Spokesperson quoted on sky sports earlier
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 11:41:32 PM
Looking back at the news item on the official on his signing and Martin's player profile both only say that he is on a season long loan. There is no mention of an option.
Maybe that is the explanation for the situation.
The moral of the story is don't take a loan from one of your potential rivals?
Quote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 11:59:12 PMthat's because everyone keeps mentioning the option ;) and unfortunately no rest for the insomniaQuote from: fulhamben on January 28, 2017, 11:55:20 PMQuote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 11:52:39 PMno one is disputing that. It's whether or not Martin has signed a pre contract, which he hasn'tQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 11:41:32 PM
Looking back at the news item on the official on his signing and Martin's player profile both only say that he is on a season long loan. There is no mention of an option.
Maybe that is the explanation for the situation.
The moral of the story is don't take a loan from one of your potential rivals?
The club has confirmed today that we have an option to buy. Spokesperson quoted on sky sports earlier
Sorry but I was responding to Apprentice to the Maestro's comment "there is no mention of an option." The debate I was having with you has clearly run it's course as far as I'm concerned because you're just repeating yourself without saying anything new! Get some rest, early kickoff tomorrow
Quote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 11:52:39 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 11:41:32 PM
Looking back at the news item on the official on his signing and Martin's player profile both only say that he is on a season long loan. There is no mention of an option.
Maybe that is the explanation for the situation.
The moral of the story is don't take a loan from one of your potential rivals?
The club has confirmed today that we have an option to buy. Spokesperson quoted on sky sports earlier
Quote from: Wearethewhites on January 29, 2017, 12:02:17 AMpersonally I think they will quote it to appease us fans. Easier to force him upon us if we think there is a chance of him joining as opposed to us knowing he doesn't want to be here and will be back at the club he loves when his prison sentence is up.Quote from: Statto on January 28, 2017, 11:52:39 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 28, 2017, 11:41:32 PM
Looking back at the news item on the official on his signing and Martin's player profile both only say that he is on a season long loan. There is no mention of an option.
Maybe that is the explanation for the situation.
The moral of the story is don't take a loan from one of your potential rivals?
The club has confirmed today that we have an option to buy. Spokesperson quoted on sky sports earlier
Club are just playing hardball, they will keep Martin until the summer, just to P Derby off. There is still is an option to buy, it's within the original deal, and still legit, however, the Club know that all 3 parties won't agree. Again, they'll quote it, just to P Derby off.
Quote from: Holders on January 29, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
The upshot of all this is that we now need a Martin replacement as well as the additional forward we needed to complement him.
Quote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 11:23:53 AMdembele never went on strike or had a vested interest in a rival finishing above us. How hard is it to see that the situations are completely different? If slavisa picks him, it proves to me that he is a weak manager who let's players walk over himQuote from: Holders on January 29, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
The upshot of all this is that we now need a Martin replacement as well as the additional forward we needed to complement him.
Everyone on here, understandably, is assuming that Jokanovic won't play Martin now. This may not be the case. Our manager may be satisfied that Martin will endeavour to do his best between now and the end of his loan.
Let's not forget that, last January, Dembele wanted to join Spurs. Then, as now with Martin, Jokanovic blocked the player's exit from the Club. Dembele subsequently featured in almost every game until the end of the season; the fact that Moussa's future lay elsewhere was not a barrier to his being selected.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 11:27:43 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 11:23:53 AMdembele never went on strike or had a vested interest in a rival finishing above us. How hard is it to see that the situations are completely different? If slavisa picks him, it proves to me that he is a weak manager who let's players walk over himQuote from: Holders on January 29, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
The upshot of all this is that we now need a Martin replacement as well as the additional forward we needed to complement him.
Everyone on here, understandably, is assuming that Jokanovic won't play Martin now. This may not be the case. Our manager may be satisfied that Martin will endeavour to do his best between now and the end of his loan.
Let's not forget that, last January, Dembele wanted to join Spurs. Then, as now with Martin, Jokanovic blocked the player's exit from the Club. Dembele subsequently featured in almost every game until the end of the season; the fact that Moussa's future lay elsewhere was not a barrier to his being selected.
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Quote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 11:27:43 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 11:23:53 AMdembele never went on strike or had a vested interest in a rival finishing above us. How hard is it to see that the situations are completely different? If slavisa picks him, it proves to me that he is a weak manager who let's players walk over him
Everyone on here, understandably, is assuming that Jokanovic won't play Martin now. This may not be the case. Our manager may be satisfied that Martin will endeavour to do his best between now and the end of his loan.
Let's not forget that, last January, Dembele wanted to join Spurs. Then, as now with Martin, Jokanovic blocked the player's exit from the Club. Dembele subsequently featured in almost every game until the end of the season; the fact that Moussa's future lay elsewhere was not a barrier to his being selected.
Quote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 11:52:47 AMI can't poor cold water on it because we have a weak managerQuote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 11:27:43 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 11:23:53 AMdembele never went on strike or had a vested interest in a rival finishing above us. How hard is it to see that the situations are completely different? If slavisa picks him, it proves to me that he is a weak manager who let's players walk over him
Everyone on here, understandably, is assuming that Jokanovic won't play Martin now. This may not be the case. Our manager may be satisfied that Martin will endeavour to do his best between now and the end of his loan.
Let's not forget that, last January, Dembele wanted to join Spurs. Then, as now with Martin, Jokanovic blocked the player's exit from the Club. Dembele subsequently featured in almost every game until the end of the season; the fact that Moussa's future lay elsewhere was not a barrier to his being selected.
I have speculated that Jokanovic will still select Martin. Your response acknowledges that this may happen.
There are differences (which you point out), but the fact that you haven't been able to pour cold water on the chances of Martin playing again shows that the the two situations clearly are not completely different.
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I can't poor cold water on it because we have a weak manager
Quote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 12:01:11 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 11:55:49 AM
I can't poor cold water on it because we have a weak manager
The easier option, in my opinion, would be to 'play to the crowd' and not select Martin. I would argue that it takes more courage for Slavisa to put him in the starting XI today.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 12:13:34 PMTwenty two and a half thousand pounds???
Villa have stated they will pay half of his 45 grand week wages to get him out on loan by Tuesday..Ross that is.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 12:13:34 PMgot a feeling we might be interested. Slavisa commented the other day about him being in charge of the team and not the players when asked about the Fulham players stating that they didn't want him back
Villa have stated they will pay half of his 45 grand week wages to get him out on loan by Tuesday..Ross that is.
Quote from: Arthur on January 29, 2017, 12:01:11 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 11:55:49 AM
I can't poor cold water on it because we have a weak manager
The easier option, in my opinion, would be to 'play to the crowd' and not select Martin. I would argue that it takes more courage for Slavisa to put him in the starting XI today.
Quote from: kempkong on January 29, 2017, 12:07:38 PMTrue, but taking inflation and the devalued pound maybe this one will work
Another 10+ million signing we don't have a great history with these
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The Club, and Jokanovic, will know exactly what is going on, and if I was a betting man, would say they knew Martin was signing a contract with Derby. With Martin playing today, and the minimal fuss that the Club have made, I'd say that was the deal. Martin will go back in the summer, Fulham aren't interested in making his move permanent, we all move on.
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Kalas and Piazon together?
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Quote from: Rambler on January 29, 2017, 02:52:08 PMi dont know, if you go on other signings at the mo he probably is.
Don't think Kalas is worth 12 million.
I think he's only worth 4-5 million.
Quote from: Neil D on January 29, 2017, 02:55:12 PMthe games against reading and qpr might disagree with that statement
Jokanovic was right and will be right to play Martin. Despite the fact that the Club still claims it has an option to sign him in the summer, he'll go back and his year loan will end. In the meantime, the Club would be daft not to play the only genuine striker we have - unless we sign another in the next two days. Now that his future is resolved, I think he will play all the better for it.
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Breaking News.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 03:10:28 PMyour decision on who should be our number 1?
Its Happening.
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could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
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could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
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could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
Quote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:34:46 PMhes on a season long loan at bristol city with no recall according to wikiQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 03:29:03 PMQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:24:29 PMQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 02:51:24 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 29, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
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could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
yea but he young british and scored some goals starting price for a striker is about 9m now days might be 8m plus 4m on appearances goals and promotion
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could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
yea but he young british and scored some goals starting price for a striker is about 9m now days might be 8m plus 4m on appearances goals and promotion
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could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
yea but he young british and scored some goals starting price for a striker is about 9m now days might be 8m plus 4m on appearances goals and promotion
He can do a Martin,
Quote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 03:41:24 PMQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:37:50 PMwouldnt want him if he did.Quote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 03:36:56 PMQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:34:46 PMhes on a season long loan at bristol city with no recall according to wikiQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 03:29:03 PMQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:24:29 PMQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 02:51:24 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 29, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
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Please please please be a striker!
could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
yea but he young british and scored some goals starting price for a striker is about 9m now days might be 8m plus 4m on appearances goals and promotion
He can do a Martin,
Quote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 03:41:24 PMyes i know, its wikiQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:37:50 PMwouldnt want him if he did.Quote from: fulhamben on January 29, 2017, 03:36:56 PMQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:34:46 PMhes on a season long loan at bristol city with no recall according to wikiQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 03:29:03 PMQuote from: Nero on January 29, 2017, 03:24:29 PMQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 02:51:24 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 29, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
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Please please please be a striker!
could be Tammy Abraham now he has gone off the boil be a Fulhamish move
He did cross my mind and I think he would be a very good signing, although price seems steep.
Is Pato still a Chelsea player? Small chance it may be him, but most likely wouldn't drop down.
yea but he young british and scored some goals starting price for a striker is about 9m now days might be 8m plus 4m on appearances goals and promotion
He can do a Martin,
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 29, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Apparently we are pursuing Hungarian striker Máyer Boobśi ( yes, really)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
Middlesbrough interested In Cairney.
Get lost Boro no chance.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 05:19:25 PMThey'll only try if:
Middlesbrough interested In Cairney.
Get lost Boro no chance.
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2017, 04:49:02 PM
Kalas looked well worth £12m today... absolutely fantastic player in every respect
But Tammy Abraham? Not worth a tenth of that sorry. Poor man's Dembele and a one trick pony who got found out in October
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 29, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
My mate suggested Loic Remy could be the 12m player from Chelsea. Only on loan at Palace and not had much game time there. Not a bad shout. Would be surprised but more likely than Tammy??
Quote from: @jolslover on January 29, 2017, 09:22:32 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 29, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
My mate suggested Loic Remy could be the 12m player from Chelsea. Only on loan at Palace and not had much game time there. Not a bad shout. Would be surprised but more likely than Tammy??
This would be unreal, no way we afford his wages.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 10:26:25 PM
On Sky now,Cairney not for sale.
Middlesboro and 7mill mentioned, they having a laugh..
Quote from: SP on January 29, 2017, 10:34:12 PMprobably about a Obe pound. He is very left footed.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2017, 10:26:25 PM
On Sky now,Cairney not for sale.
Middlesboro and 7mill mentioned, they having a laugh..
7m wouldn't buy his left leg. Not sure what value we'd place on his right leg though?
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 30, 2017, 06:20:56 AM
12 million English pounds, who can that be, Diego Costas right leg. Or John Terry both arms both legs and a head. I couldn't name hardly any Chelsea players as I have little interest, but 12m, if there is any truth in this rumour, then it has to be somebody surplus to their requirements. Kenedy is a left back that can play anywhere along the left side.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 30, 2017, 08:21:01 AMWe have a squad full of versatile players. I want a specialist striker now, not one who can do a job if required.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 30, 2017, 06:20:56 AM
12 million English pounds, who can that be, Diego Costas right leg. Or John Terry both arms both legs and a head. I couldn't name hardly any Chelsea players as I have little interest, but 12m, if there is any truth in this rumour, then it has to be somebody surplus to their requirements. Kenedy is a left back that can play anywhere along the left side.
Kenedy is actually a winger/forward (he was playing that positions back in Brasil) and was just retrain to play left-back last season under Mourinho because their LB`s were all injured at the time.
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 08:31:22 AMDon't think I inferred anything and that wasn't my intention, I was querying the situation as it is so unclear.Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 07:44:31 AM
Just read SJ's comment son the news thread and he said after the game we have an option to keep martin next season, doesnt say permanent deal, say maybe its a second year option on the loan? I jkust dont get this situation now.
All I know is if we sign someone and they are on par or better than martin, he should be stuick in our reserves and on the bench, and if we sign two then stuck on the bench
Think you're inferring too much, doesn't say explicitly that it's a playing contract either so does that mean we might be keeping him on as a coach?
I've been reading the Derby forums and they seem to think the same as us which is that we've an option to buy (on a perm) but, whether Martin's approval is required on a contractual or just practical level, in any case it will be scuppered if The player doesn't want the move. But they're convinced Martin will want to stay if we offer him slightly more money at the end of the season. They're livid because they didn't think he'd play for us again after signing the new contract. Amazingly they think it's us that have stitched them up rather than the other way around, and they're livid with the board for letting it happen. They seem to rate him far more highly than any of their other strikers as well.
Quote from: hovewhite on January 30, 2017, 10:34:18 AM
93 pages of nothing apart from 1 wind up after another.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 10:35:55 AMQuote from: hovewhite on January 30, 2017, 10:34:18 AM
93 pages of nothing apart from 1 wind up after another.
lol
Quote from: BedsFFC on January 30, 2017, 10:21:31 AM
I'm not implying that the club is not furiously busy closing deals behind the scenes but this window feels, by a big margin, the lowest number of fulham related rumours I can remember. Don't know how we have gone through 93 pages on the morsels we have been fed.
Quote from: hovewhite on January 30, 2017, 10:34:18 AMYes and the Ross rumour has been on/off time and again.
93 pages of nothing apart from 1 wind up after another.
Quote from: David I on January 30, 2017, 11:09:43 AM
Due to the lack of success in the window to date, the desperate need for a striker and the transfer window closing tomorrow.
I predict a panic signing or two of Ross McContract for £14million from Villa and a cheeky £4million for Emile Heskey!!
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Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 11:35:17 AMDo well to find a big slow un committed striker that occasionally goes on strike, this late on in the window.
The 12 million ruour is quiet today it seems.
As for Akpom, did we want him? were we linked? i s he a Martin type player? I think that is what we are loking for someone to play in a similar way so the team dynamics stay the same.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 30, 2017, 12:52:14 PM
We are making a strong push for promotion, the manager says so and with Humphreys and Woodrow out on loan already and Smith rumoured to be on his way means a Centre forward type player is a cert !
That has to happen, doesn't it ?
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OK....So why has my post on the other one just started been taken down,it was about buying someone?
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2017, 02:13:15 PM
We have just accepted a £1m bit from the Ha Ha's for Matt Smith. Does that mean we have an incoming striker or just that he is surplus to requirements at Fulham and we just want to offload him?
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2017, 02:13:15 PMActually it is 500k rising to a million based on appearances
We have just accepted a £1m bit from the Ha Ha's for Matt Smith. Does that mean we have an incoming striker or just that he is surplus to requirements at Fulham and we just want to offload him?
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2017, 02:13:15 PMThing is I just dont think Joka is anywhere keen on him. Almost just tolerated him because hes in the squad.
We have just accepted a £1m bit from the Ha Ha's for Matt Smith. Does that mean we have an incoming striker or just that he is surplus to requirements at Fulham and we just want to offload him?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 02:34:04 PM
Good luck Smudger a first class lad and professional,just don't come back and score against us.
Never thought I'd ever want a QPR man to do well but I hope you do...
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2017, 02:32:48 PM
I posted this earlier but it appears to have been deleted? Anyone know why??
I presume it is just because he is deemed to be surplus to requirements, although of course I am always hopeful it means we have an incoming striker!
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 30, 2017, 01:29:00 PMBut genuine information is just not forthcoming and with all the silly business with Martin we do need to relieve our frustration with a little sarcastic humour from time to time which often makes a point.
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Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 02:16:58 PMQuote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2017, 02:13:15 PMActually it is 500k rising to a million based on appearances
We have just accepted a £1m bit from the Ha Ha's for Matt Smith. Does that mean we have an incoming striker or just that he is surplus to requirements at Fulham and we just want to offload him?
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QPR CLOSE ON SMITH
QPR have agreed a fee with Fulham for striker Matt Smith, according to Sky sources.
He is due for a medical and to discuss personal terms and it is understood the fee is an initial £500,000 that could rise to £1m depending on appearances.
Quote from: filham on January 30, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 30, 2017, 01:29:00 PMBut genuine information is just not forthcoming and with all the silly business with Martin we do need to relieve our frustration with a little sarcastic humour from time to time which often makes a point.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 03:14:33 PMPalace have enquired
London club after Hogan as West Ham lose interest.
Can't be us at that price surely?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 03:11:29 PMI replaied to your PM saying I will look into it, hopefully you have my message. Once I know more I will get back to youQuote from: filham on January 30, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 30, 2017, 01:29:00 PMBut genuine information is just not forthcoming and with all the silly business with Martin we do need to relieve our frustration with a little sarcastic humour from time to time which often makes a point.
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I've had 2 posts taken down now and no explanation why?
Just informed my solicitor. :022:
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 30, 2017, 02:13:15 PMProbably because we have been quoted as the Barcelona of the championship and we all know Barca don't play with strikers. 049:gif
We have just accepted a £1m bit from the Ha Ha's for Matt Smith. Does that mean we have an incoming striker or just that he is surplus to requirements at Fulham and we just want to offload him?
Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 03:16:08 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 03:14:33 PMPalace have enquired
London club after Hogan as West Ham lose interest.
Can't be us at that price surely?
Quote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 03:25:38 PMWas what I thought buit was on Skys Transfer live on their web page...Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 03:16:08 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 03:14:33 PMPalace have enquired
London club after Hogan as West Ham lose interest.
Can't be us at that price surely?
Really? Weird as they usually only play with one striker and have Benteke, Remy, Wickham and Campbell in their squad.
Quote from: Tooting legend on January 28, 2017, 03:29:21 PMIf goal scoring record is what you are looking for I'm sure we could get Bobby Charlton on loan
Id have him in a heart beat his goal scoring record says it all. Would do a grest job in the championship.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 03:11:29 PMBe careful, your solicitor could, in one sense, could be rated below Hilda the tea lady.Quote from: filham on January 30, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 30, 2017, 01:29:00 PMBut genuine information is just not forthcoming and with all the silly business with Martin we do need to relieve our frustration with a little sarcastic humour from time to time which often makes a point.
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I've had 2 posts taken down now and no explanation why?
Just informed my solicitor. :022:
Quote from: AlexW132 on January 30, 2017, 04:03:03 PMQPR like their tall boys. Peter Crouch was there for one season wasn't he??
As what someone above said, it's good that Smith will be staying in West London purely because he won't be far from his boyfriend TC. Even if it is the Ha Has, but we'll let him off.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 30, 2017, 05:15:52 PMAlmost certainly would, but issues here are the rumoured 10 million fee required, the salary he would want, the fact Leicester say he isn't leaving and the fact premier league clubs and la liga clubs want him
Ulloa of Leicester has got the hump and wants to move - would he suit us?
Quote from: Count Flapula on January 30, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/)
Uh-oh...
Quote from: Count Flapula on January 30, 2017, 05:38:10 PMThat would be a desperation signing. If we stay games two others and him the fair enough andnonlynthen on a pay as you play deal.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/)
Uh-oh...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
Quote from: Count Flapula on January 30, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/)
Uh-oh...
Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:46:46 PMDid I say we can't spend money? Just saying FFP maybe a concern I don't jnowjifnitnis it isn't, but then I am guessing you don't either.Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
Don't see why it would,are you saying we can't spend money then?
Wolves are just about to sign a guy for 15 million,and have spent already.
We haven't spent a cent.
Quote from: Tonywa on January 30, 2017, 05:43:35 PMQuote from: Count Flapula on January 30, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/)
Uh-oh...
Five years since he played league football in England!!!!!!!
Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
Quote from: Twig on January 30, 2017, 05:51:15 PMTwig assume you mean Robbie Keane I replied to this before that was mentioned.Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
What on earth has FFP to do with it? Sh1t signing if true though.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:49:48 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:46:46 PMDid I say we can't spend money? Just saying FFP maybe a concern I don't jnowjifnitnis it isn't, but then I am guessing you don't either.Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
Don't see why it would,are you saying we can't spend money then?
Wolves are just about to sign a guy for 15 million,and have spent already.
We haven't spent a cent.
Like you I am frustrated but getting snarky and snappy with posters in here won't help.
Quote from: Nero on January 30, 2017, 05:50:08 PMQuote from: Tonywa on January 30, 2017, 05:43:35 PMQuote from: Count Flapula on January 30, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/30/odds-slashed-fulham-installed-as-new-46-favoruties-in-race-to-si/)
Uh-oh...
Five years since he played league football in England!!!!!!!
Perhaps we can make a move for Clinton Morrison aswell
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:53:48 PMIf that's how you see it That's fine, I don't but that's fine tooQuote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:49:48 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:46:46 PMDid I say we can't spend money? Just saying FFP maybe a concern I don't jnowjifnitnis it isn't, but then I am guessing you don't either.Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 05:35:21 PMI would suggest that FFP may impact with a signing like that, not what you ornI want to hear but we have to accept it could be a reality
Just go and get him and pay whatever.
Don't see why it would,are you saying we can't spend money then?
Wolves are just about to sign a guy for 15 million,and have spent already.
We haven't spent a cent.
Like you I am frustrated but getting snarky and snappy with posters in here won't help.
Narky n Snappy what you on about.
I just asked a question...
Quote from: hovewhite on January 30, 2017, 05:56:48 PMDouble signing with his twin brother Snarky
Snappy is he a new signing:D
Quote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 03:25:38 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 03:16:08 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 03:14:33 PMPalace have enquired
London club after Hogan as West Ham lose interest.
Can't be us at that price surely?
Really? Weird as they usually only play with one striker and have Benteke, Remy, Wickham and Campbell in their squad.
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 06:51:38 PM
I can see it now...
We've probably spent all window negotiating some Belgium club down from £4m to £3.7m for some player we could have had on January 1st for the extra £300k
Now we've sold Matt Smith in anticipation of getting this guy but his Belgian club will say, hold on, it's the last day of the transfer window, you've sold all your strikers, so now you're desperate so we want £4.5m
We will pull out of the deal and sign Robbie Keane on a pay-as-you-play
Several posters on here will say the board were trying all January to sign this Belgian guy and his club tried to pull our pants down more, what more do you want?
Robbie Keane will get seriously injured against Burton, we'll finish 12th, Joka will join Werder Bremen and we, managed by Alan Curbishley, will get relegated to League 1 next year
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 06:51:38 PMNostradamus you ain't!!
I can see it now...
We've probably spent all window negotiating some Belgium club down from £4m to £3.7m for some player we could have had on January 1st for the extra £300k
Now we've sold Matt Smith in anticipation of getting this guy but his Belgian club will say, hold on, it's the last day of the transfer window, you've sold all your strikers, so now you're desperate so we want £4.5m
We will pull out of the deal and sign Robbie Keane on a pay-as-you-play
Several posters on here will say the board were trying all January to sign this Belgian guy and his club tried to pull our pants down more, what more do you want?
Robbie Keane will get seriously injured against Burton, we'll finish 12th, Joka will join Werder Bremen and we, managed by Alan Curbishley, will get relegated to League 1 next year
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 30, 2017, 07:07:19 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
Or was good but not for us. If SJ says he is good enough then he believes the guy can play. Now for the next signing the Board owe us.
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 06:51:38 PM
I can see it now...
We've probably spent all window negotiating some Belgium club down from £4m to £3.7m for some player we could have had on January 1st for the extra £300k
Now we've sold Matt Smith in anticipation of getting this guy but his Belgian club will say, hold on, it's the last day of the transfer window, you've sold all your strikers, so now you're desperate so we want £4.5m
We will pull out of the deal and sign Robbie Keane on a pay-as-you-play
Several posters on here will say the board were trying all January to sign this Belgian guy and his club tried to pull our pants down more, what more do you want?
Robbie Keane will get seriously injured against Burton, we'll finish 12th, Joka will join Werder Bremen and we, managed by Alan Curbishley, will get relegated to League 1 next year
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 30, 2017, 07:10:37 PM
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Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:08:26 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 30, 2017, 07:07:19 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
Or was good but not for us. If SJ says he is good enough then he believes the guy can play. Now for the next signing the Board owe us.
Can't say he looks too good on football manager (Is surprisingly a great source to look up players, very in depth database) and there is nothing about him on youtube. Not sure many will be pleased if he comes in as our only deadline day signing.
Fee is apparently 1.5 million.
Yeah Im joking, Mitroglou was a very good player in my opinion just didnt work out at FFC.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
Quote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Quote from: toshes mate on January 30, 2017, 07:07:19 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
Or was good but not for us. If SJ says he is good enough then he believes the guy can play. Now for the next signing the Board owe us.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PMAppears to have only scored 5 this season :023:
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:15:20 PMQuote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Bit harsh. Dont knock them till you've seen them play.
Don't mind people criticising signings if they have seen them play.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:15:20 PMQuote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Bit harsh. Dont knock them till you've seen them play.
Don't mind people criticising signings if they have seen them play.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 30, 2017, 07:26:38 PMhe is rubbish. Just because he has scored countless goals and a shed load of assists, a great passer and with a great engine, doesn't mean he is as good as Parker. Who is none of those things.Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:15:20 PMQuote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Bit harsh. Dont knock them till you've seen them play.
Don't mind people criticising signings if they have seen them play.
I seem to remember Johansen being rubbished before he came and look the view of him now.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:15:20 PMQuote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Bit harsh. Dont knock them till you've seen them play.
Don't mind people criticising signings if they have seen them play.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 30, 2017, 07:36:27 PMStrange most people would look at versatility as a positive.
Wow just checked out tasos stats. He is a direct replacing for Smith goal wise. Both average about 3 a season. And more worryingly, he is a striker / winger ( which in myind means they are not good enough to hold down one position when it says that about a player)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 07:34:58 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:15:20 PMQuote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Bit harsh. Dont knock them till you've seen them play.
Don't mind people criticising signings if they have seen them play.
Your bound to love them being foreign.
I'm sure you hate England... lol
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:38:07 PMWe got a squad of versatile players, and no proper striker to replace the derby player, and if you are exceptionally good in one position then you don't get moved around all the time. It's up there with substitute teachersQuote from: fulhamben on January 30, 2017, 07:36:27 PMStrange most people would look at versatility as a positive.
Wow just checked out tasos stats. He is a direct replacing for Smith goal wise. Both average about 3 a season. And more worryingly, he is a striker / winger ( which in myind means they are not good enough to hold down one position when it says that about a player)
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:38:34 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 07:34:58 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:15:20 PMQuote from: twang on January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
If I were in Jokanovic' shoes and the club only signed this guy and Petsos this window, I'd walk first thing Wednesday morning. I mean what's the point if the board's idea of backing the manager is to sign two second-rate Greeks?
Bit harsh. Dont knock them till you've seen them play.
Don't mind people criticising signings if they have seen them play.
Your bound to love them being foreign.
I'm sure you hate England... lol
How can I love a player I have never seen play. I am just saying give him a chance rather than writing him off.
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 06:51:38 PMI love your optimisim
I can see it now...
We've probably spent all window negotiating some Belgium club down from £4m to £3.7m for some player we could have had on January 1st for the extra £300k
Now we've sold Matt Smith in anticipation of getting this guy but his Belgian club will say, hold on, it's the last day of the transfer window, you've sold all your strikers, so now you're desperate so we want £4.5m
We will pull out of the deal and sign Robbie Keane on a pay-as-you-play
Several posters on here will say the board were trying all January to sign this Belgian guy and his club tried to pull our pants down more, what more do you want?
Robbie Keane will get seriously injured against Burton, we'll finish 12th, Joka will join Werder Bremen and we, managed by Alan Curbishley, will get relegated to League 1 next year
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2017, 07:48:31 PMIf we got money for Rhodes, then we should bid for hogan.although I doubt they would sell to us as they refused to last season
If Villa are in for Hogan,then they ain't getting Rhodes?
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 30, 2017, 07:38:07 PMTrue but he has only had 3 games!!
Appears to have only scored 5 this season :023:
Quote from: alexmur on January 30, 2017, 07:57:19 PMonly 3 games, has he been on strike? That would please a few Fulham fan :005:Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 30, 2017, 07:38:07 PMTrue but he has only had 3 games!!
Appears to have only scored 5 this season :023:
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 30, 2017, 08:05:57 PMHas Shearer still got the legs??
Tomorrow we should focus on getting a proven striker.
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 08:11:28 PMA chance in midfield? Who you going to drop for him. I more than happy for Aluko and Ayite to remain in our 11
Rumours on here the other day about us scouting the Portuguese leagues heavily so the rumour about Karamanos sounds plausible
5 goals from 20 games is a poor return for a striker so either he's a poor striker or he's not a striker
But he could the same type of player as Ayite or Aluko, both of whom have almost identical strike rates to that this year, and to that extent should be given a chance
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 08:49:10 PMBut then we have piazon Kebano and sess as back up. Not to mention fredericks can push up to. We have one want away striker, and if he goes on strike, loses form, gets injured or suspended, then we are back to the 4 6 0 formation againQuote from: fulhamben on January 30, 2017, 08:13:52 PMQuote from: Statto on January 30, 2017, 08:11:28 PMA chance in midfield? Who you going to drop for him. I more than happy for Aluko and Ayite to remain in our 11
Rumours on here the other day about us scouting the Portuguese leagues heavily so the rumour about Karamanos sounds plausible
5 goals from 20 games is a poor return for a striker so either he's a poor striker or he's not a striker
But he could the same type of player as Ayite or Aluko, both of whom have almost identical strike rates to that this year, and to that extent should be given a chance
Fine if neither of them will be tired, injured, suspended or just suffering a dip in form, for the remainder of our league games and epic cup run
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
Quote from: westcliff white on January 30, 2017, 09:35:11 PMagain though, we have great wide players. Sess piazon amd Kebano can't nail down a first team place, why would we need another
Kaveh Solhekol
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@SkyKaveh
South Korea winger Lee Chung-yong can leave Crystal Palace tomorrow. Possible destinations: Fulham, Burnley, Brighton, Swansea & Aston Villa
9:24 PM - 30 Jan 2017
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 30, 2017, 09:34:32 PMBut 76, this is according to you!Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
I think that's the point though, SJ doesn't appear to have a say in transfers & he just has to get on with what he's given.
I'd be surprised if this Greek guy is one of SJ's choices & because this player is so unknown, all is fans have to go on are google, Wikipedia etc..
Personally I'd prefer for Khan to come out & admit he won't be supporting us in the transfer market, his interests lie elsewhere, rather than all this BS about ambition & 'whatever it takes' because it's completely untrue, or an outright lie if I'm being blunt.
We have no strikers, we've offloaded them all, it's a ridiculous position to be in & I can see SJ walking very soon, which would be about the worst possible outcome for the club purely because we have no ambition.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 30, 2017, 09:42:35 PMthe thought had crossed my mind with tasos.
People saying we are after players who are rubbish, if they are so bad, how do they pass the LAPTOP TEST??
Quote from: fulhamben on January 30, 2017, 07:36:27 PM
Wow just checked out tasos stats. He is a direct replacement lfor Smith goal wise. Both average about 3 a season. And more worryingly, he is a striker / winger ( which in my mind means they are not good enough to hold down one position when it says that about a Player)
Still if he relegates the derby player to the bench then it's all good with me
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 30, 2017, 09:42:35 PM
People saying we are after players who are rubbish, if they are so bad, how do they pass the LAPTOP TEST??
Quote from: @jolslover on January 30, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
#Olympiacos have reached an agreement with #ffc for Tasos Karamanos. The player will go to London to complete his transfer. #feirense
Just read this on twitter --- In before some absolute 'joker' says the last Greek striker we signed wasn't very good.
QuoteVilla boss Steve Bruce says he has received no enquiries about Ross McCormack - who he said missed training because his gates would not open and he could not climb over a relatively small wall - and insisted the striker will continue to train with the club's under-23s until he apologises to him. (Talksport)
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 30, 2017, 11:45:17 PM
DEAL DONE: Brighton have signed forward China Akpom from Arsenal on loan until June.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 12:18:32 AM
Less than twenty three hours to go to those wonderful strikers signing for us. Pity Akpom has gone to Brighton.....
Quote from: Bracken White on January 30, 2017, 11:13:28 PM
Surely building up for an intriguing day tomorrow. Rhodes would show real ambition - but on the face of it, the Greek striker does not appear as good as the departing out of favour Matt Smith - more money, too. Agree that we need to give the guy a chance - but the scenario is an odd one, at this time.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 30, 2017, 11:45:17 PM
DEAL DONE: Brighton have signed forward China Akpom from Arsenal on loan until June.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PMIn slav we trust [emoji106]
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
Quote from: alexmur on January 31, 2017, 08:18:56 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PMIn slav we trust [emoji106]
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Quote from: Chutney on January 31, 2017, 08:31:19 AMQuote from: alexmur on January 31, 2017, 08:18:56 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PMIn slav we trust [emoji106]
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
When slav was asked about transfers after the hull game he said that we should be asking Tony Khan, Craig Kline and Ali Mac. From those words it sounds like slav has little to no input in the transfers currently.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 08:37:41 AMI thought those comments were from an old interview? as there was a thread on this the other day and the OP mentioned in the end that someone posted an old link to the old interviewQuote from: Chutney on January 31, 2017, 08:31:19 AMQuote from: alexmur on January 31, 2017, 08:18:56 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PMIn slav we trust [emoji106]
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
When slav was asked about transfers after the hull game he said that we should be asking Tony Khan, Craig Kline and Ali Mac. From those words it sounds like slav has little to no input in the transfers currently.
and that is a recipe for disaster.
Quote from: Chutney on January 31, 2017, 08:31:19 AM
When slav was asked about transfers after the hull game he said that we should be asking Tony Khan, Craig Kline and Ali Mac. From those words it sounds like slav has little to no input in the transfers currently.
Quote from: alexmur on January 31, 2017, 08:18:56 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on January 30, 2017, 09:21:22 PMIn slav we trust [emoji106] and
Don't you think it's about time to believe in Slavisa and who he wants at this club?
All this feckshite you're all spouting is a real pee take!
Wow you are all so good I don't know why Khan hasn't paid you millions for advice!
God it drives me mad how you state he's crap, re certain players, just by reading some wally website or game!
Or we should go for.. Bla bla etc
Personally I trust that Slavisa thinks he's good enough then so do I
He ain't badly thus far, has he!?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Quote from: Chutney on January 31, 2017, 08:31:19 AM
When slav was asked about transfers after the hull game he said that we should be asking Tony Khan, Craig Kline and Ali Mac. From those words it sounds like slav has little to no input in the transfers currently.
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Ali Mac and the others are the ones who do the deed, but as said above, Slav has the final say in if he wants a player or not. Basically Kline is part of identification, as are the scouts, Slav says yes or no and Ali Mac does the contract and financials. What's difficult to understand about that.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:08:41 AMI thought the minues / update from the lats trust meetinghilighted how things were done. AYite was found based on stats, and then Slav got a scout report and then sounded out his own contacts before giving the go ahead.Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Ali Mac and the others are the ones who do the deed, but as said above, Slav has the final say in if he wants a player or not. Basically Kline is part of identification, as are the scouts, Slav says yes or no and Ali Mac does the contract and financials. What's difficult to understand about that.
The practice of it rather than the theory of it.
Quote from: bencher on January 31, 2017, 09:15:42 AMThought the rule on loans was only two from one club as we already have two it won't happen or am I wrong on this.
I could quite easily see it being Loic Remy from Chelsea - his loan to Palace being cancelled and him being reloaned to Fulham. Low risk, needs game time, has scored goals at the highest level, ticks a lot of boxes.
Quote from: f321ffc on January 31, 2017, 09:20:09 AMThought that too, but someone posted somehting yesterday saying it was a little different to that. so I am a little unsureQuote from: bencher on January 31, 2017, 09:15:42 AMThought the rule on loans was only two from one club as we already have two it won't happen or am I wrong on this.
I could quite easily see it being Loic Remy from Chelsea - his loan to Palace being cancelled and him being reloaned to Fulham. Low risk, needs game time, has scored goals at the highest level, ticks a lot of boxes.
Quote from: bencher on January 31, 2017, 09:15:42 AMMaybe why Palace were considering Hogan as a possible replacement for Remy?
I could quite easily see it being Loic Remy from Chelsea - his loan to Palace being cancelled and him being reloaned to Fulham. Low risk, needs game time, has scored goals at the highest level, ticks a lot of boxes.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:21:18 AM
there was a rumour a few days ago we were signing someone form Chelsea for 12 million, fell by the wayside but gave us some hope for a few hours.
Remy at present still at palace, I would prefe rnot to loan players really but right now will take anything as long as it is an improvement to the squad.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:15:04 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:08:41 AMI thought the minues / update from the lats trust meetinghilighted how things were done. AYite was found based on stats, and then Slav got a scout report and then sounded out his own contacts before giving the go ahead.Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Ali Mac and the others are the ones who do the deed, but as said above, Slav has the final say in if he wants a player or not. Basically Kline is part of identification, as are the scouts, Slav says yes or no and Ali Mac does the contract and financials. What's difficult to understand about that.
The practice of it rather than the theory of it.
I could be wrong but sure thats what ALi MAc hilighted in that meeting
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:35:09 AMI read the thread we had on the site, link didnt work, but thought the OP said that the link was an old interview and not the one from the match.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:15:04 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:08:41 AMI thought the minues / update from the lats trust meetinghilighted how things were done. AYite was found based on stats, and then Slav got a scout report and then sounded out his own contacts before giving the go ahead.Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Ali Mac and the others are the ones who do the deed, but as said above, Slav has the final say in if he wants a player or not. Basically Kline is part of identification, as are the scouts, Slav says yes or no and Ali Mac does the contract and financials. What's difficult to understand about that.
The practice of it rather than the theory of it.
I could be wrong but sure thats what ALi MAc hilighted in that meeting
Have you listened to SJ's after Hull match comments when he was asked about transfers. He ends up saying he respects the system without sounding especially enthusiastic. He is a good pro.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:40:00 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:35:09 AMI read the thread we had on the site, link didnt work, but thought the OP said that the link was an old interview and not the one from the match.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:15:04 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:08:41 AMI thought the minues / update from the lats trust meetinghilighted how things were done. AYite was found based on stats, and then Slav got a scout report and then sounded out his own contacts before giving the go ahead.Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Ali Mac and the others are the ones who do the deed, but as said above, Slav has the final say in if he wants a player or not. Basically Kline is part of identification, as are the scouts, Slav says yes or no and Ali Mac does the contract and financials. What's difficult to understand about that.
The practice of it rather than the theory of it.
I could be wrong but sure thats what ALi MAc hilighted in that meeting
Have you listened to SJ's after Hull match comments when he was asked about transfers. He ends up saying he respects the system without sounding especially enthusiastic. He is a good pro.
That aside, I was just syaing what was mentioned in those minutes.
The whole transfer thing isa grey cloud, no one outside the club knows what is what at all and it leads us poor fans to confusion and frustration
Quote from: spikey norman on January 31, 2017, 09:40:04 AMHave been for quite a while
Another forum saying we are being linked with Milwall's Fred Onyedinma and Bournemouth's Lewis Grabban
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:45:28 AMfair enough, but I still wont believe they will sign someone without his approval as any manger woirth his salt would then walk away.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:40:00 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:35:09 AMI read the thread we had on the site, link didnt work, but thought the OP said that the link was an old interview and not the one from the match.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:15:04 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:08:41 AMI thought the minues / update from the lats trust meetinghilighted how things were done. AYite was found based on stats, and then Slav got a scout report and then sounded out his own contacts before giving the go ahead.Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Ali Mac and the others are the ones who do the deed, but as said above, Slav has the final say in if he wants a player or not. Basically Kline is part of identification, as are the scouts, Slav says yes or no and Ali Mac does the contract and financials. What's difficult to understand about that.
The practice of it rather than the theory of it.
I could be wrong but sure thats what ALi MAc hilighted in that meeting
Have you listened to SJ's after Hull match comments when he was asked about transfers. He ends up saying he respects the system without sounding especially enthusiastic. He is a good pro.
That aside, I was just syaing what was mentioned in those minutes.
The whole transfer thing isa grey cloud, no one outside the club knows what is what at all and it leads us poor fans to confusion and frustration
He names the same names as before as being responsible for transfers with a little shrug of his shoulders, and really doesn't give any hint of confidence or expectation. He'll get on with his job as best he can and this was the press conference recorded on Sunday 29th January 2017, not August last year.
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AMA decent back up stirker, would like someone else in as well. Not seen this i any of the Belge press i look through, but will check it outQuote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
So the soap opera continues.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:05:26 AMhttps://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham)Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AMA decent back up stirker, would like someone else in as well. Not seen this i any of the Belge press i look through, but will check it outQuote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
So the soap opera continues.
Quote from: Sebb86 on January 31, 2017, 10:26:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:05:26 AMhttps://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham)Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AMA decent back up stirker, would like someone else in as well. Not seen this i any of the Belge press i look through, but will check it outQuote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
So the soap opera continues.
QuoteKV Oostende is still a busy transferdag. Not just about Landry Dimata must be negotiated, a deal on Gohi Bi Cyriac is in the pipeline.
Cyriac has received a serious offer from the English Fulham and Ostend seem inclined to accept it. Cyriac since the breakthrough of Dimata no longer undisputed holder and had several offers from the Middle East in his pocket. However, the deal fell through because Ostend and the 3 million early for the attacker.
The risk that they would not walk with his injury history, but Fulham will do. A deal is on its way today. Possibly, in this case an extra attacker to Ostend. And let's not rule Ostend still holds the track Lombaerts in the eye when you receive so much money ...
Quote from: Sebb86 on January 31, 2017, 10:26:23 AMIndeed just speaking with a collegaue who still works in Brussels, its no more than 50/50 due to some injury issues. That article says that Cyriac had offers form the middle east but they did not want to take the risk with his injry history it seems, but we maybe willing to do a deal. The is a reported offer from us (press reported nothing official from Oostende to coinfirm) and Oostende seem willing to do the deal.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:05:26 AMhttps://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham)Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AMA decent back up stirker, would like someone else in as well. Not seen this i any of the Belge press i look through, but will check it outQuote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
So the soap opera continues.
Quote from: Sebb86 on January 31, 2017, 10:26:23 AMGoogle translateQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:05:26 AMhttps://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham)Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AMA decent back up stirker, would like someone else in as well. Not seen this i any of the Belge press i look through, but will check it outQuote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
So the soap opera continues.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 10:27:14 AMSo what has this little bird told you?
My guess is SJ will walk in the Summer if Fulham don't win promotion. He'll have seen out his contract and if something better comes along (which in my opinion won't be hard to find) he'll take it, and Fulham FC will have sold us all (players, supporters, everybody) short if that happens. I hope I am wrong and Fulham come up with salvation today. A little bird has told me that will be the case and I hope she is right.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:38:33 AMMy Collegue in Brussels has just been qulaity checking the e deadline day news in Belgium and his quite is "nothing on cyriac"Quote from: Sebb86 on January 31, 2017, 10:26:23 AMIndeed just speaking with a collegaue who still works in Brussels, its no more than 50/50 due to some injury issues. That article says that Cyriac had offers form the middle east but they did not want to take the risk with his injry history it seems, but we maybe willing to do a deal. The is a reported offer from us (press reported nothing official from Oostende to coinfirm) and Oostende seem willing to do the deal.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:05:26 AMhttps://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-31/gohi-bi-cyriac-is-op-weg-naar-het-engelse-fulham)Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AMA decent back up stirker, would like someone else in as well. Not seen this i any of the Belge press i look through, but will check it outQuote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 09:46:04 AM
Blast from the summer: According to loads of Belgium sites, Cyriac is joining us for €1,5m!
So the soap opera continues.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:46:51 AMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 10:27:14 AMSo what has this little bird told you?
My guess is SJ will walk in the Summer if Fulham don't win promotion. He'll have seen out his contract and if something better comes along (which in my opinion won't be hard to find) he'll take it, and Fulham FC will have sold us all (players, supporters, everybody) short if that happens. I hope I am wrong and Fulham come up with salvation today. A little bird has told me that will be the case and I hope she is right.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:53:03 AMI'm sure the reason we never signed him in the Sumer was that time ran out whilst trying to get the deal done, if that's the case why have we left it so late again. 090.gif
Cyriac also has offers from Germany
Quote from: f321ffc on January 31, 2017, 11:04:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:53:03 AMI'm sure the reason we never signed him in the Sumer was that time ran out whilst trying to get the deal done, if that's the case why have we left it so late again. 090.gif
Cyriac also has offers from Germany
Quote from: f321ffc on January 31, 2017, 11:04:23 AMTime was one issue but also Oostende chairman wante dmor emoney and paid differently right atthe last minuteQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:53:03 AMI'm sure the reason we never signed him in the Sumer was that time ran out whilst trying to get the deal done, if that's the case why have we left it so late again. 090.gif
Cyriac also has offers from Germany
Quote from: f321ffc on January 31, 2017, 11:04:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:53:03 AMI'm sure the reason we never signed him in the Sumer was that time ran out whilst trying to get the deal done, if that's the case why have we left it so late again. 090.gif
Cyriac also has offers from Germany
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 31, 2017, 11:10:47 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 31, 2017, 11:04:23 AMQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 10:53:03 AMI'm sure the reason we never signed him in the Sumer was that time ran out whilst trying to get the deal done, if that's the case why have we left it so late again. 090.gif
Cyriac also has offers from Germany
Hes 5ft 8, & four goals in 22 games, chuck in a Greek nobody, a near 37 year old has been and an unfit McCormack who we'll pay over the odds for then its shaping up to be a depressing deadline day.
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 11:23:12 AM"The chip that they offer to Sergi Enrich is also very juicy"
Now we're talking... "Fulham ready to meet Sergi Enrich's buy out clause of €10m"
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffutbol.as.com%2Ffutbol%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Fprimera%2F1485861322_415928.html&edit-text=
Hopefully the greek is a backup option for Enrich, and Cyriac backup for Callum Robinson.
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 11:23:12 AMwhilst not bad news, why would he leave La Liga for the championship especially when he is starting games
Now we're talking... "Fulham ready to meet Sergi Enrich's buy out clause of €10m"
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffutbol.as.com%2Ffutbol%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Fprimera%2F1485861322_415928.html&edit-text=
Hopefully the greek is a backup option for Enrich, and Cyriac backup for Callum Robinson.
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
Now we're talking... "Fulham ready to meet Sergi Enrich's buy out clause of €10m"
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffutbol.as.com%2Ffutbol%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Fprimera%2F1485861322_415928.html&edit-text=
Hopefully the greek is a backup option for Enrich, and Cyriac backup for Callum Robinson.
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
Now we're talking... "Fulham ready to meet Sergi Enrich's buy out clause of €10m"
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffutbol.as.com%2Ffutbol%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Fprimera%2F1485861322_415928.html&edit-text=
Hopefully the greek is a backup option for Enrich, and Cyriac backup for Callum Robinson.
He'll probably play rubbish now, but Enrich one of best strikers in Spain in terms of movement, receiving (esp on chest), outlet, etc
— Sid Lowe (@sidlowe) January 22, 2017
Quote from: river phoenix on January 31, 2017, 11:34:05 AMThey all seem to go in the same spot, with the goalkeeper diving in the wrong direction. Any misses won't have made the show reel!
Cyriac looks like quite a penalty taker. Some of his penalties remind me of Berba.
Quote from: sipwell on January 31, 2017, 11:47:40 AM
The fact that Fulham is looking into a striker who does not play regularly for a minor club in Belgium (after having failed at both the top clubs in Belgium) and who is injury-prone is probably the most lunatic idea I'll read all day but somehow it keeps resurfacing.
Even more so when they are willing to pay silly money.
Dear God, no!
MAKE IT STOP.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 11:54:22 AM
Ross to Forest being mooted, they are favourites for him now
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AMParachute payments
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 12:00:12 PMAt least ours will not bankrupt us. If Villa don´t go up they will have a huge embargo & be saddled with a load of high paid players. Rather our position than theirs.Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
They appear to have an ambitious Chairman.
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
Now we're talking... "Fulham ready to meet Sergi Enrich's buy out clause of €10m"
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffutbol.as.com%2Ffutbol%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Fprimera%2F1485861322_415928.html&edit-text=
Hopefully the greek is a backup option for Enrich, and Cyriac backup for Callum Robinson.
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 11:55:33 AM
He's seemingly played in almost all games so far this season and the same last season, not sure how that makes him injury prone? Different players perform better in different teams too, and whilst you've definitely seen more of him and his team than I have, I'd wager we're a lot more creative than they are.
Quote from: MaidenheadMick on January 31, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
Looks like Scott Hogan is off to Villa. 10m fee agreed. Can't see them going for Rhodes as well with Kodjia returning soon from the AFCON. Could we see Rhodes heading to London?
Quote from: grandad on January 31, 2017, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 12:00:12 PMAt least ours will not bankrupt us. If Villa don´t go up they will have a huge embargo & be saddled with a load of high paid players. Rather our position than theirs.Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
They appear to have an ambitious Chairman.
Quote from: grandad on January 31, 2017, 12:11:53 PMThey wont get an embargo as the rules ar enow books over a 3 year period, and also the parachute payments are larger nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 12:00:12 PMAt least ours will not bankrupt us. If Villa don´t go up they will have a huge embargo & be saddled with a load of high paid players. Rather our position than theirs.Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
They appear to have an ambitious Chairman.
Quote from: BlaWhiArmyyyyyy on January 31, 2017, 12:54:06 PM
I've never seen this Sergi Enrich play, but 10m Euros on a striker with 6 goals in 21 games in la liga is a huge gamble for me. I'd rather we landed Rhodes for similar money.
Im guessing his hold up play is exceptional and he brings others in? Be good to hear from someone who has actually watched him consistently and not just from a youtube clip. Same goes for Cyriac, Marcus Maddison, Fred Onyedinma etc. Matt Smith could look like a Premier league calibre striker from YouTube clips
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 01:00:04 PMFifa rankings are terrible, Football manager is closer to actuality. I htink that is a systme simialr to what Sky useQuote from: BlaWhiArmyyyyyy on January 31, 2017, 12:54:06 PM
I've never seen this Sergi Enrich play, but 10m Euros on a striker with 6 goals in 21 games in la liga is a huge gamble for me. I'd rather we landed Rhodes for similar money.
Im guessing his hold up play is exceptional and he brings others in? Be good to hear from someone who has actually watched him consistently and not just from a youtube clip. Same goes for Cyriac, Marcus Maddison, Fred Onyedinma etc. Matt Smith could look like a Premier league calibre striker from YouTube clips
He's 77 on Fifa 17 so that'll do for me ;)
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 01:09:03 PMQuite possibly have acrued some credit. The payments reduce every year I believe, ours htis year is relatively small compared to villas.Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 12:35:47 PMQuote from: grandad on January 31, 2017, 12:11:53 PMThey wont get an embargo as the rules ar enow books over a 3 year period, and also the parachute payments are larger nowQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 12:00:12 PMAt least ours will not bankrupt us. If Villa don´t go up they will have a huge embargo & be saddled with a load of high paid players. Rather our position than theirs.Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
They appear to have an ambitious Chairman.
We're still getting parachute payments, maybe not as large as theirs but then their wage bill is likely about £50m higher than ours right now. Besst explanation I can think of is they've accrued some "credit" by spending less than the premiership rules permit last couple of years
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 01:03:34 PM
He's also had a sex tape (featuring Antonio Valencia) leak online. Sounds like an interesting guy!
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 01:03:34 PM
He's also had a sex tape (featuring Antonio Valencia) leak online. Sounds like an interesting guy!
Quote from: Keynsham on January 31, 2017, 01:09:13 PM
Like a great big pigeon?
Quote from: beijing ben on January 31, 2017, 01:14:47 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 01:03:34 PM
He's also had a sex tape (featuring Antonio Valencia) leak online. Sounds like an interesting guy!
Antonio Luna (Tony Moon)...
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 31, 2017, 01:22:54 PMis he any good, pacey? I know very little of him. Er and is he an out and out striker
Enrich interest being reported in more places now - fingers crossed
http://app.football-espana.net/?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-espana.net%2F62655%2Freport-fulham-want-eibars-enrich#article/footballespana-62655 (http://app.football-espana.net/?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-espana.net%2F62655%2Freport-fulham-want-eibars-enrich#article/footballespana-62655)
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 01:24:23 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 31, 2017, 01:22:54 PMis he any good, pacey? I know very little of him. Er and is he an out and out striker
Enrich interest being reported in more places now - fingers crossed
http://app.football-espana.net/?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-espana.net%2F62655%2Freport-fulham-want-eibars-enrich#article/footballespana-62655 (http://app.football-espana.net/?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-espana.net%2F62655%2Freport-fulham-want-eibars-enrich#article/footballespana-62655)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
Things are not to bad after all,Barnsley just signing a guy for 500,000 who has a broken leg.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 01:04:48 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 01:00:04 PMFifa rankings are terrible, Football manager is closer to actuality. I htink that is a systme simialr to what Sky useQuote from: BlaWhiArmyyyyyy on January 31, 2017, 12:54:06 PM
I've never seen this Sergi Enrich play, but 10m Euros on a striker with 6 goals in 21 games in la liga is a huge gamble for me. I'd rather we landed Rhodes for similar money.
Im guessing his hold up play is exceptional and he brings others in? Be good to hear from someone who has actually watched him consistently and not just from a youtube clip. Same goes for Cyriac, Marcus Maddison, Fred Onyedinma etc. Matt Smith could look like a Premier league calibre striker from YouTube clips
He's 77 on Fifa 17 so that'll do for me ;)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:23:05 PM
Sunderland offer 7.5 mill for Ulloa,we can match that come on.
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 01:40:39 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:23:05 PM
Sunderland offer 7.5 mill for Ulloa,we can match that come on.
And they could easily offer double or triple the wages we could offer him.
Quote from: beijing ben on January 31, 2017, 01:14:47 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 01:03:34 PM
He's also had a sex tape (featuring Antonio Valencia) leak online. Sounds like an interesting guy!
Antonio Luna (Tony Moon)...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:43:39 PMQuote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 01:40:39 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:23:05 PM
Sunderland offer 7.5 mill for Ulloa,we can match that come on.
And they could easily offer double or triple the wages we could offer him.
They haven't got the money too have they?
Thought the owners told Moyes no dosh to spend.
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AMIt would appear ffp only applies to us
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:42:10 PM
This Enrich fella,weren't we after him in last window.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:43:39 PMThey can use the money we give them...............for Defoe!!! ;)Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 01:40:39 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:23:05 PM
Sunderland offer 7.5 mill for Ulloa,we can match that come on.
And they could easily offer double or triple the wages we could offer him.
They haven't got the money too have they?
Thought the owners told Moyes no dosh to spend.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 01:30:27 PMLol
Things are not to bad after all,Barnsley just signing a guy for 500,000 who has a broken leg.
Quote from: alexmur on January 31, 2017, 01:49:36 PMVilla are probably being'creative' in terms of managing FFP. Creative accounting / Income streams / accomodation deals etc. Like MAF would have done, like we should be doing now.Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:58:46 AMIt would appear ffp only applies to us
How are Villa affording all these signings? Didnt they spend loads in the summer aswell??
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Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 01:58:30 PM
Guilleme Balague the sky sports spanish expert has tweeted re us and Enrich, apparently we are willing to pay most of the 10 million eiros release clause
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 31, 2017, 02:27:03 PMmy fears exactly. Even if we are planing on making a decent signing, it's a dangerous game reducing your squad to just one striker this close to deadline. Absolutely anything could go wrong and talks break down
Not convinced we are really trying to sign overseas players on the last day of the window. When it all goes wrong Fulham will say that they just ran out of time leaving us with a very thin squad. When frankly the intention was never really there in the first place.
Although we will have to bring in somebody to sit on the bench while the forward who doesn't want to be here tries not to get injured.
Quote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 02:30:04 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 01:58:30 PM
Guilleme Balague the sky sports spanish expert has tweeted re us and Enrich, apparently we are willing to pay most of the 10 million eiros release clause
'Most'?
In that case, his Club can step in and refuse to sell him.
The whole point of a release clause, as we all know, is that, as the potential suitor, once you meet the fee, the player's current club have no further say in whether he departs; it's simply the choice of the player.
But therein lies our difficulty: Accrington Stanley's CEO could fly to Spain with 10 million euros in a suitcase for Enrich's club and Stanley would be as entitled to sign the player as we are. But the player would, of course, still prefer to remain where he is.
Will Enrich want to sign for us?
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 02:35:41 PMQuote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 02:30:04 PMQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 01:58:30 PM
Guilleme Balague the sky sports spanish expert has tweeted re us and Enrich, apparently we are willing to pay most of the 10 million eiros release clause
'Most'?
In that case, his Club can step in and refuse to sell him.
The whole point of a release clause, as we all know, is that, as the potential suitor, once you meet the fee, the player's current club have no further say in whether he departs; it's simply the choice of the player.
But therein lies our difficulty: Accrington Stanley's CEO could fly to Spain with 10 million euros in a suitcase for Enrich's club and Stanley would be as entitled to sign the player as we are. But the player would, of course, still prefer to remain where he is.
Will Enrich want to sign for us?
The release clause is what they have to sell him for, maybe they'd be ok to take £6million as well. Why pay more if we can get him for less? Just to say we spent big? Maybe he really wants the move - Eibar are a TINY club, and he can put pressure on the club to sell for less.
There's no harm in trying to pay less if you can also pay the full price and will do if it comes down to it.
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 02:35:41 PM
The release clause is what they have to sell him for, maybe they'd be ok to take £6million as well. Why pay more if we can get him for less? Just to say we spent big? Maybe he really wants the move - Eibar are a TINY club, and he can put pressure on the club to sell for less.
There's no harm in trying to pay less if you can also pay the full price and will do if it comes down to it.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Still crazy, in my book, that he we are down to the last day and scrambling around for a new striker - having offloaded all the others bar one, in one way or the other. Appalling planning by any counts.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 31, 2017, 02:56:16 PMBrighton showing how January transfers should be done without any panic
Glenn Murray loan move to Brighton has been made permanent.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 02:48:39 PMQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Still crazy, in my book, that he we are down to the last day and scrambling around for a new striker - having offloaded all the others bar one, in one way or the other. Appalling planning by any counts.
What do you expect when the lunatic's are running the asylum.
Quote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
Quote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
Effing typical. :dft004:
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 03:21:28 PMQuote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
What a surprise.....
Quote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
Effing typical. :dft004:
Quote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
Effing typical. :dft004:
Quote from: Texas White on January 31, 2017, 03:27:42 PMQuote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 03:21:28 PMQuote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
What a surprise.....
Yes never saw that coming........
Quote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PMQuelle surprise Rodney
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
Effing typical. :dft004:
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 03:28:37 PMQuote from: bucksfulham on January 31, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Now being reported that deal is likely to be off. Too complicated for deadline day. http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/exclusive-fulham-transfer-brink-collapse-complicated-deadline-day/)
Effing typical. :dft004:
http://www.cityam.com/252013/recent-change-spains-tax-laws-could-make-buying-liga-manchester-united (http://www.cityam.com/252013/recent-change-spains-tax-laws-could-make-buying-liga-manchester-united)
That suggests the tax may have been removed...
Quote from: zander on January 31, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
Hm interesting. As Toodles says this is Eibar dragging their heels.
We would of know about the potential issues of a release fee before getting involved so something could be worked out. Last day is far from ideal but then it puts pressure on them as well as us.
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 03:39:27 PMQuote from: zander on January 31, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
Hm interesting. As Toodles says this is Eibar dragging their heels.
We would of know about the potential issues of a release fee before getting involved so something could be worked out. Last day is far from ideal but then it puts pressure on them as well as us.
If it is them dragging their heels and that article is correct then they're dragging them over something they have no control over. If the law states that the money transferred to the player to buy out his contract is no longer taxable then they can't ask for more money to cover the taxed figure. If it's them claiming they can fully knowing that they can't then I'd hope we're in contact with various authorities because that would probably amount to at least some form of financial wrongdoing and just wouldn't be worth the fall out over one player.
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 31, 2017, 03:48:23 PM
As I said on another thread earlier, our unknown/unheard of 2nd division Belgium or Danish league player will be announced by the end of the day, don't panic.
Quote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
If it is them dragging their heels and that article is correct then they're dragging them over something they have no control over.
Quote from: Nero on January 31, 2017, 03:52:09 PM
Adebayor and Keane you can see it now
Quote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 03:50:40 PMQuote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
If it is them dragging their heels and that article is correct then they're dragging them over something they have no control over.
If it's true that Eibar don't want him to leave and will put him on better money should he stay (why does that seem familiar?), it appears, to me, as if the player is playing both clubs for the best contract that either will offer. This could turn into the transfer equivalent of Russian roulette.
Quote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 03:50:40 PMQuote from: The Road Less Travelled on January 31, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
If it is them dragging their heels and that article is correct then they're dragging them over something they have no control over.
If it's true that Eibar don't want him to leave and will put him on better money should he stay (why does that seem familiar?), it appears, to me, as if the player is playing both clubs for the best contract that either will offer. This could turn into the transfer equivalent of Russian roulette.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
Curiac did that last summer as well i believe, when asked the same question
As for Bogle, wigan bid 750k plus addons up to 1,000,000. Grimsby have rejected 3 bids of 850k apparently
Quote from: Nero on January 31, 2017, 04:00:47 PMLast window it fell apart in the last 2 days as the Oostende chairman wanted to re negotiate the deal, and we didnt wwant tooQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
Curiac did that last summer as well i believe, when asked the same question
As for Bogle, wigan bid 750k plus addons up to 1,000,000. Grimsby have rejected 3 bids of 850k apparently
Well if we couldnt seal a deal last transfer window what makes you think we will be able to do anything in a day when weve had 3months to sort it out
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 04:07:49 PMnever heard of him, so will take your word for that
Leeds have completed the signing of Villarreal winger Alfonso Pedraza on loan until the end of the season, with a view to a permanent deal.
Thats a huge signing for Leeds
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 04:16:03 PM
I'm looking forward to the exciting announcement at 11pm tonight that Woodrow and Humphrys have been recallled
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on January 31, 2017, 04:14:45 PM
Saw this on twitter, supposedly yriac replied to a message asking if he is joining us
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lukey2906/status/826453092703035395
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 04:16:03 PM
I'm looking forward to the exciting announcement at 11pm tonight that Woodrow and Humphrys have been recallled
Quote from: David I on January 31, 2017, 04:19:49 PMpretty sure you can sign a player subject to medical
Running out of times for medicals........
Quote from: David I on January 31, 2017, 04:19:49 PM
Running out of times for medicals........
Quote from: ollienixs on January 31, 2017, 04:18:09 PMHardly says he is signing eitherQuote from: SuperFulham323 on January 31, 2017, 04:14:45 PM
Saw this on twitter, supposedly yriac replied to a message asking if he is joining us
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lukey2906/status/826453092703035395
Hardly a huge sign of intent is it with this signing.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 04:22:30 PM.............. and then they fail the medical lolQuote from: David I on January 31, 2017, 04:19:49 PMpretty sure you can sign a player subject to medical
Running out of times for medicals........
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 04:22:30 PMthink it still has to be completed withi a timescale though, there is an extension paper for that type of thing in the premier league so assume it is the same for the championshipQuote from: David I on January 31, 2017, 04:19:49 PMpretty sure you can sign a player subject to medical
Running out of times for medicals........
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
...Aboubakar Kamara from SC Amiens. 21 yo striker who's bagged 8 goals and 2 assists in 19 appearances in Ligue 2 this season.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 31, 2017, 04:29:47 PMThe old adage of 'Clutching at Straws' comes readily to mind :)
If we put in a deal done form by 11pm we still have until 1am to complete the deal.
Quote from: ollienixs on January 31, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
http://www.paris-normandie.fr/mobile/breves/sport-en-direct/football--malgre-l-interet-de-marseille-fulham-serait-la-seule-issue-pour-l-ex-havrais-lys-mousset-LB8344836# (http://www.paris-normandie.fr/mobile/breves/sport-en-direct/football--malgre-l-interet-de-marseille-fulham-serait-la-seule-issue-pour-l-ex-havrais-lys-mousset-LB8344836#)
Anyone translate
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
Does this club know there are players in this country,it seems all the rumours are of foreign unknowns.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 04:32:27 PM
Matty Taylor Bristol Rovers to Bristol City,first to cross town since 1987.
Death threats are abound already.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 31, 2017, 04:31:32 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 31, 2017, 04:29:47 PMThe old adage of 'Clutching at Straws' comes readily to mind :)
If we put in a deal done form by 11pm we still have until 1am to complete the deal.
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PMHe appears to play in the French 2nd division, would prefer enrich or cyriac
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 04:47:57 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
French fans seem to think he's fast and strong so worth a go if cheap
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 04:47:57 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
French fans seem to think he's fast and strong so worth a go if cheap
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 04:49:43 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
Precisely... WHO.
Quote from: Chutney on January 31, 2017, 04:45:55 PM
To anyone still thinking Jovanovic does our transfers, please listen to this from after the hull game.
https://audioboom.com/posts/5547232-post-match-fulhamfc-slavisa-jokanovic-says-his-side-have-every-intention-of-progressing-trough-the-competition
He clearly says any transfer questions should be for tony khan, craig kline and ali mac as they are in charge of play recruitment.
The quote is around the 2:00 mark.
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:51:23 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 04:47:57 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
French fans seem to think he's fast and strong so worth a go if cheap
On that basis why don't we sign Dwayne Chambers. He's fast and strong also
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on January 31, 2017, 04:58:25 PMQuote from: Chutney on January 31, 2017, 04:45:55 PM
To anyone still thinking Jovanovic does our transfers, please listen to this from after the hull game.
https://audioboom.com/posts/5547232-post-match-fulhamfc-slavisa-jokanovic-says-his-side-have-every-intention-of-progressing-trough-the-competition
He clearly says any transfer questions should be for tony khan, craig kline and ali mac as they are in charge of play recruitment.
The quote is around the 2:00 mark.
Very important difference that.
I guess it doesn't quite sound as dramatic though
He actullay says "they are available for talking about recruitment".
Not quite the same thing but enigmatic certainly.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on January 31, 2017, 04:52:13 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 04:49:43 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
Precisely... WHO.
This one looks good. 21 years old, 10 goals in 32 including one on Sunday just gone. Looks massive for his age. Fans seem to rate him. Could be the new Saha for us.
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 05:00:55 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:51:23 PMQuote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 04:47:57 PMQuote from: MiltonBurrows on January 31, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
16:29 Fulham set to sign Amiens attacker Aboubakar Kamara
Championship side Fulham are expected to complete the signing of 21-year-old Amiens striker Aboubakar Kamara, according to L'Équipe. The deal will be done on a permanent basis, and the fee has yet to filter through
.....who?
French fans seem to think he's fast and strong so worth a go if cheap
On that basis why don't we sign Dwayne Chambers. He's fast and strong also
Because Dwayne Chambers isn't a professional football player.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
To suggest that Jovanovic has little say in transfers is just daft. They may do the stats/admin etc but surely he both identifies targets & has the final say so. Trusting there will be an opportunity or two for him to do the latter before 11pm tonight.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
To suggest that Jovanovic has little say in transfers is just daft. They may do the stats/admin etc but surely he both identifies targets & has the final say so. Trusting there will be an opportunity or two for him to do the latter before 11pm tonight.
Quote from: davew on January 31, 2017, 05:02:58 PM
Best idea would be to close the window now to stop the other Championship sides from strengthening their squads any further!!
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2017, 05:18:51 PMGoing by the minutes from the FST meeting re the Ayite signing then he did have the final say so.Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
To suggest that Jovanovic has little say in transfers is just daft. They may do the stats/admin etc but surely he both identifies targets & has the final say so. Trusting there will be an opportunity or two for him to do the latter before 11pm tonight.
He is very unlikely to have the final say so.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 31, 2017, 05:38:24 PMHis last tweet was yesterday about the u23 game and spurs draw in fa cup
:hook: SJ just tweeted "Motspur Park now closed for the day, All Business done"
:012: :012: :012:
Quote from: keithh on January 31, 2017, 05:42:36 PM
Is Farcical the previously mentioned Turkish striker?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on January 31, 2017, 05:21:00 PMI love watching the Joka interviews. His English is so poor and his phrasing so unique that it's remarkably difficult to interpret exactly what he is saying. I think that can be a big advantage in dealing with the press. Strange that nobody asks him to restate or clarify his statements. Also, I couldn't help but notice that Sarah was thumbing her phone like a dervish in the interview after the Hull match. What the heck was she doing? Texting her friends? Or transcribing Joka's statements for later clarification/translation?Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
To suggest that Jovanovic has little say in transfers is just daft. They may do the stats/admin etc but surely he both identifies targets & has the final say so. Trusting there will be an opportunity or two for him to do the latter before 11pm tonight.
Agreed. And as much has been said previously <<<<< as for your transfer setup comments.
Think the "Talk to Tony, Craig and Alistair" comment serves two purposes for SJ: expresses his frustration with some part of how it works and it's also his "I don't talk about transfers" response.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in strikers that are better.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMYep just like we did when we lost dembele McCormack and mitroglu in the summer.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in strikers that are better.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 05:47:30 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMYep just like we did when we lost dembele McCormack and mitroglu in the summer.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in strikers that are better.
Quote from: grandad on January 31, 2017, 05:56:53 PMdoes anyone honestly believe that after what Martin has done to us this month, that we can still make the top 6? I dont
Sky Sources: Sheffield Wednesday & Middlesbrough have agreed a fee of around of £10m for Jordan Rhodes. Player having medical. #SWFC #MFC
6:54 PM - 31 Jan 2017
That is them defo in the play offs then.
Quote from: grandad on January 31, 2017, 06:02:18 PM
Sky sources understand QPR have agreed personal terms with Lazio midfielder Ravel Morrison. The player will finalise the move before the deadline.
We understand the deal is a loan with an option to buy.
Thought he was a bit of a bad attitude player with W. Ham.
Quote from: corbs83 on January 31, 2017, 05:42:35 PMIt was a personal 'Tweet' but I thought I would share it ;)Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 31, 2017, 05:38:24 PMHis last tweet was yesterday about the u23 game and spurs draw in fa cup
:hook: SJ just tweeted "Motspur Park now closed for the day, All Business done"
:012: :012: :012:
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Quote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in atleast 1 striker that is better.
Quote from: PokerMatt on January 31, 2017, 06:16:49 PM
So our transfer window has consisted of getting rid of three of our four senior (marginal in Humphrys' case), leaving us with just the one striker who's counting down the days until he returns to his real club?
Surely not.
Quote from: Classic94 on January 31, 2017, 06:22:14 PMQuote from: PokerMatt on January 31, 2017, 06:16:49 PM
So our transfer window has consisted of getting rid of three of our four senior (marginal in Humphrys' case), leaving us with just the one striker who's counting down the days until he returns to his real club?
Surely not.
Exactly. We simply can't be this stupid. Until 11pm, I'm confident that two strikers will be signed.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 06:16:45 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in atleast 1 striker that is better.
The point is if they knew they were going to offload them they should have had a specific target lined up.
Now they running round clutching at Straws while all of our challengers are signing players.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 06:29:41 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 06:16:45 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in atleast 1 striker that is better.
The point is if they knew they were going to offload them they should have had a specific target lined up.
Now they running round clutching at Straws while all of our challengers are signing players.
The windows not even over yet.. If we sign no one today then you can complain
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 06:32:10 PM
Talksport...Enrich on way to Fulham.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
It's 'won't ' Mince or 'Will not' but deffo not "Want"
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
It's 'won't ' Mince or 'Will not' but deffo not "Want"
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 06:55:31 PMI cannot guess......but I bet it was spelt wrong!!!! :) or should that be spelled???Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
It's 'won't ' Mince or 'Will not' but deffo not "Want"Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
It's 'won't ' Mince or 'Will not' but deffo not "Want"
Is that what your on here for to pick up a silly spelling mistake...If so how about you go and ....Guess what I was about to say.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 07:05:07 PMwhen does their transfer window shut. Must be before ours
I still feel we have time to sign Enrich.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 05:47:30 PMQuote from: @jolslover on January 31, 2017, 05:45:13 PMYep just like we did when we lost dembele McCormack and mitroglu in the summer.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Its a ridiculous situation we are in,the club has let Smith,Woodrow and Humphrey's go with no bloody idea who they getting in to replace them.
Now they are chasing round last minute after Tom, Dick and whoever..Farcical
This obviously isn't the case at all, They would only let these 3 strikers go (All 3 are not good enough to play regularly here anyway) if they are getting in strikers that are better.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 07:11:37 PM
Ed MalyonVerified account @eaamalyon 3m3 minutes ago
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Am told that Belgian-Ivorian striker Cyriac Gohi-Bi, 26, is set to move to Fulham on loan with a view to a permanent.
Quote from: grandad on January 31, 2017, 07:12:07 PM
Sky sources understand Lewis Grabban has agreed to join Reading on loan.
The Bournemouth striker was linked to Leeds earlier today.
Another one that we missed out on. Something must be happening for us not being linked with all these players being signed by other clubs.
Quote from: SWAD on January 31, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
http://www.kvo.be/nieuws/croky-cup-voorbeschouwing-selectie-genk-kvo (http://www.kvo.be/nieuws/croky-cup-voorbeschouwing-selectie-genk-kvo)
Cyriac has been left out of Oostende's squad for tonights match vs Genk.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 07:20:32 PMQuote from: SWAD on January 31, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
http://www.kvo.be/nieuws/croky-cup-voorbeschouwing-selectie-genk-kvo (http://www.kvo.be/nieuws/croky-cup-voorbeschouwing-selectie-genk-kvo)
Cyriac has been left out of Oostende's squad for tonights match vs Genk.
Then there is still hope, as long as it is not Bob Hope.
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 07:21:53 PMnope not greedy at all. New striker up front and one for the bench is minimum if we want to have a good finish to the seasonQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 07:20:32 PMQuote from: SWAD on January 31, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
http://www.kvo.be/nieuws/croky-cup-voorbeschouwing-selectie-genk-kvo (http://www.kvo.be/nieuws/croky-cup-voorbeschouwing-selectie-genk-kvo)
Cyriac has been left out of Oostende's squad for tonights match vs Genk.
Then there is still hope, as long as it is not Bob Hope.
He'd be a good addition but we need another too! Is that greedy?
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 07:26:27 PM064.gifQuote from: mkras99 on January 31, 2017, 07:12:25 PM
Transfer Centre Live @TransferCentreL 1m1 minute ago
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Fulham are set to sign 26-year-old Oostende striker Cyriac Gohi-Bi on loan with a view to a permanent move.
I look forward to March when Oostende's new manager Shteve Van MacLaren says he'd love his favorite player "Cyrry boy" back at Oostende, following which Cyriac goes on strike
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
Not another loan?
Jesus get the bloody chequebook out you tightwads....Joke
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 07:29:26 PMI would rather us try before we buy. Don´t want us to burn our fingers as in the past.
Not another loan?
Jesus get the bloody chequebook out you tightwads....Joke
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 07:26:11 PMHow can you not like a fella called 'ZORO' !! :)
Cyriac has just followed Fulham on twitter
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 07:29:26 PMYou want a Striker..........
Not another loan?
Jesus get the bloody chequebook out you tightwads....Joke
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 07:39:37 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
Wonderful ambition being shown by the club,some guy most have never heard of and we looked at last window is the best we can do.
Are we sure we still don't have a Transfer Embargo...lol
Not really sure what there is to complain about, unless you're suggesting we just sack our scouts and pay over the odds for players the crap British names splashed across the back of The Sun every week
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 07:37:45 PMIsn't Cyriac a striker then? Wtf are we loaning him for then
If we sign Cyriac and Elrich I will be happy
Elrich as an alternative for MArtin
Cyriac cover for the wide players and/or offering something different
Both of them are highly rated with reported premier league interest
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 07:39:37 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
Wonderful ambition being shown by the club,some guy most have never heard of and we looked at last window is the best we can do.
Are we sure we still don't have a Transfer Embargo...lol
Not really sure what there is to complain about, unless you're suggesting we just sack our scouts and pay over the odds for players the crap British names splashed across the back of The Sun every week
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
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Not at all,if we had signed him I'd gone long with it..The Loan guy we got up front is enough problems..
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 07:55:20 PM#fakenews
Come over to my thread, THE WOOLLY MAMMOTH NEWS. We are more up to date.
Quote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 08:01:36 PMIt has already been said in Spain that Enrich isn't coming, EIbar want to keep him and will renegotiate.
Enrich is the litmus test as to whether today is considered a success. Cyriac sounds as if he could do what Piazon does, but maybe better, but will still need someone who can play Martin's role.
If we do, I can't imagine us signing Kamara as well, but shall be happy to find out otherwise.
Quote from: bmasar on January 31, 2017, 08:00:05 PMEmpty VesselQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 07:55:20 PM#fakenews
Come over to my thread, THE WOOLLY MAMMOTH NEWS. We are more up to date.
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 08:02:52 PM
It has already been said in Spain that Enrich isn't coming, EIbar want to keep him and will renegotiate.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 08:09:27 PMit's the Internet mate, we can hide a spelling mistake with excuses such as typo and auto correct ;)Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
Sarcastic as well apart from amending spelling...Any other gifts that you want to throw at me...Good night.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 08:09:27 PMI already explained that I was trying to help!Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
Sarcastic as well apart from amending spelling...Any other gifts that you want to throw at me...Good night.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:16:20 PMhopefully they are right and Balague is wrong, nothing much on twitter other than the deal is off.
Talksport report Enrich en route - maybe the deal is on!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 08:16:35 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 08:09:27 PMI already explained that I was trying to help!Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
Sarcastic as well apart from amending spelling...Any other gifts that you want to throw at me...Good night.
On the other point, I say it as I see it - you do not appear to be very enthusiastic about any of the potential incomings? You seem to want certain players and no one else is good enough. That's all! I apologise again if I came across as having a go, it was not my intention.
I'm sorry Mince!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 08:24:58 PMMince you can't leave yet, we still need another strikerQuote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 08:16:35 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2017, 08:09:27 PMI already explained that I was trying to help!Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I think what you're saying Mince is...
I'll only be happy if we buy a player I've mentioned. If anyone else is hired (bought or loan) and they don't fit my choice, then we have no ambition!?
Sarcastic as well apart from amending spelling...Any other gifts that you want to throw at me...Good night.
On the other point, I say it as I see it - you do not appear to be very enthusiastic about any of the potential incomings? You seem to want certain players and no one else is good enough. That's all! I apologise again if I came across as having a go, it was not my intention.
I'm sorry Mince!
You and a couple of others on here don't read what people say...I spell it out again before I F off.
I'm not really too bothered who we sign if he's decent...BUT I WANT THEM TO BE SIGNED BY US NOT LOANED.
If you and the other geezer cant understand that then I really don't care..
I'm not going to carry on defending myself.
Spelling and wording OK for you?
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 08:07:27 PM
I could be alone in this. But does the way we play actually need a hold up target man? We rarely play balls up to Martin. I actually think a quick striker would be more dangerous with how creative our midfield is.
Hence why I liked Wells for us
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 08:32:07 PMYou speak for yourself!!!!!
At the end of the day we all want what's best for the club we support.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 08:56:36 PMnot gonna lie, that was a huge shock. What did we pay, 250/500 on the back of a 15 goal season. 3 years later with an average of 3 goals a season we get double/quadruple for him. Decent bloke, but poor striker. One of the worst headerers of the ball I've ever seen. Considering he gets on the end of most, you would have thought he would of learnt how to aim them by now. Wish him all the best though, model pro and can respect a player for dropping down to a smaller team for first team footballQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
It's not a medical, it's first aid, Fulhamben fell out of his tree at Motspur Park, when he heard Matt Smith had been sold for a profit.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 09:04:07 PMAli G from staines? He's massive re spec. Or hopefully boggle
Only other clue from 'the source' - he's big & black. Don't think Kamara is 'big, Curioser ....
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:03:26 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 08:56:36 PMnot gonna lie, that was a huge shock. What did we pay, 250/500 on the back of a 15 goal season. 3 years later with an average of 3 goals a season we get double/quadruple for him. Decent bloke, but poor striker. One of the worst headerers of the ball I've ever seen. Considering he gets on the end of most, you would have thought he would of learnt how to aim them by now. Wish him all the best though, model pro and can respect a player for dropping down to a smaller team for first team footballQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
It's not a medical, it's first aid, Fulhamben fell out of his tree at Motspur Park, when he heard Matt Smith had been sold for a profit.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 31, 2017, 09:11:28 PMand yet Ayite has double the goals as Smith from his head. He is poor with his head, probably has less than a 10% Ratio with irQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:03:26 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 08:56:36 PMnot gonna lie, that was a huge shock. What did we pay, 250/500 on the back of a 15 goal season. 3 years later with an average of 3 goals a season we get double/quadruple for him. Decent bloke, but poor striker. One of the worst headerers of the ball I've ever seen. Considering he gets on the end of most, you would have thought he would of learnt how to aim them by now. Wish him all the best though, model pro and can respect a player for dropping down to a smaller team for first team footballQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
Ben, ask Newcastle if he's a bad header of the ball!!
It's not a medical, it's first aid, Fulhamben fell out of his tree at Motspur Park, when he heard Matt Smith had been sold for a profit.
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Now heard both Kamara & Lee Chung-Yong. Who knows?!
Quote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 09:15:06 PMWho is lee chung Yong? The Leicester player?
Now heard both Kamara & Lee Chung-Yong. Who knows?!
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:20:13 PMI'm with you, think he will suit us down to the ground. Look how young sess exploited hull with his pace from our pin point midfield passes
Was hoping we would sign Cyriac in the summer. Fast, Strong, perfect. Fits our style scores goals incl pens. As for the loan, proved ideal with Madl, can't see a Martin problem and if we have the option to buy then I would consider him a Fulham player. Wish we had an option on Kalas.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:20:23 PMQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 09:15:06 PMWho is lee chung Yong? The Leicester player?
Now heard both Kamara & Lee Chung-Yong. Who knows?!
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:14:30 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on January 31, 2017, 09:11:28 PMand yet Ayite has double the goals as Smith from his head. He is poor with his head, probably has less than a 10% Ratio with irQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:03:26 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 08:56:36 PMnot gonna lie, that was a huge shock. What did we pay, 250/500 on the back of a 15 goal season. 3 years later with an average of 3 goals a season we get double/quadruple for him. Decent bloke, but poor striker. One of the worst headerers of the ball I've ever seen. Considering he gets on the end of most, you would have thought he would of learnt how to aim them by now. Wish him all the best though, model pro and can respect a player for dropping down to a smaller team for first team footballQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
Ben, ask Newcastle if he's a bad header of the ball!!
It's not a medical, it's first aid, Fulhamben fell out of his tree at Motspur Park, when he heard Matt Smith had been sold for a profit.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 31, 2017, 09:26:47 PMYes totally, that's why I think the smaller Cyriac will do wellQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:14:30 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on January 31, 2017, 09:11:28 PMand yet Ayite has double the goals as Smith from his head. He is poor with his head, probably has less than a 10% Ratio with irQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:03:26 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2017, 08:56:36 PMnot gonna lie, that was a huge shock. What did we pay, 250/500 on the back of a 15 goal season. 3 years later with an average of 3 goals a season we get double/quadruple for him. Decent bloke, but poor striker. One of the worst headerers of the ball I've ever seen. Considering he gets on the end of most, you would have thought he would of learnt how to aim them by now. Wish him all the best though, model pro and can respect a player for dropping down to a smaller team for first team footballQuote from: Bracken White on January 31, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
TIFF reports one more medical underway @ MP.
Ben, ask Newcastle if he's a bad header of the ball!!
It's not a medical, it's first aid, Fulhamben fell out of his tree at Motspur Park, when he heard Matt Smith had been sold for a profit.
Ayite has played a lot more games than Smith and therefore distorts stats but let's agree he was not good for the way JS wants the team to play.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:34:39 PMYep, can't believe this couldn't have been done sooner. And if the enrich rumours were true, then we could have met his buy out clause on the first of January. No domino effect with this player
Well I am not going to take back what I said about our transfer team because at the very last they do what they could have done weeks ago, but Cyriac is a good signing and he'll be a hard act to keep out of the danger area. Quick and strong and well worth the loan. Now Fulham where is this second signing?
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 31, 2017, 09:20:13 PMFits our style needs to be seen, he likes the ball in behind to run onto, doesn't play like Martin at all, my initial thought was he will be the option to come on off the bench. But he does have skills we need and skills we lacked, hopefully he can step up from the Jupiler league to play in the championship
Was hoping we would sign Cyriac in the summer. Fast, Strong, perfect. Fits our style scores goals incl pens. As for the loan, proved ideal with Madl, can't see a Martin problem and if we have the option to buy then I would consider him a Fulham player. Wish we had an option on Kalas.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:46:49 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:34:39 PMYep, can't believe this couldn't have been done sooner. And if the enrich rumours were true, then we could have met his buy out clause on the first of January. No domino effect with this player
Well I am not going to take back what I said about our transfer team because at the very last they do what they could have done weeks ago, but Cyriac is a good signing and he'll be a hard act to keep out of the danger area. Quick and strong and well worth the loan. Now Fulham where is this second signing?
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:50:52 PMthey didn't want to sell him, every player has a release clause in their contracts in Spain, don't think you can sign a contract if it doesn't have one. So not wanting to sell him they have allegedly offered him a new contractQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:46:49 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:34:39 PMYep, can't believe this couldn't have been done sooner. And if the enrich rumours were true, then we could have met his buy out clause on the first of January. No domino effect with this player
Well I am not going to take back what I said about our transfer team because at the very last they do what they could have done weeks ago, but Cyriac is a good signing and he'll be a hard act to keep out of the danger area. Quick and strong and well worth the loan. Now Fulham where is this second signing?
I really don't understand the Enrich scenario at all unless his parent club were playing silly buggers all along.
Quote from: TerryR on January 31, 2017, 09:54:46 PMyes and then they offered him a new deal
Apparently the club was saying the player had to buy himself out.
With taxes it was adding 4 million euros to the price. 14 million is deemed too much by FFC
Clearly Derby aren't the only dirty buggers
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 09:44:31 PMstill an hour or so to go
It's all gone very quiet..
Who's still in play?
Quote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:52:32 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:50:52 PMthey didn't want to sell him, every player has a release clause in their contracts in Spain, don't think you can sign a contract if it doesn't have one. So not wanting to sell him they have allegedly offered him a new contractQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:46:49 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:34:39 PMYep, can't believe this couldn't have been done sooner. And if the enrich rumours were true, then we could have met his buy out clause on the first of January. No domino effect with this player
Well I am not going to take back what I said about our transfer team because at the very last they do what they could have done weeks ago, but Cyriac is a good signing and he'll be a hard act to keep out of the danger area. Quick and strong and well worth the loan. Now Fulham where is this second signing?
I really don't understand the Enrich scenario at all unless his parent club were playing silly buggers all along.
Quote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 10:01:20 PMnow I love SJ, but don't agree with that. Pretty much everyone of our first 11 core have playedbbadbenough to be dropped at some stage this season but never have. I'd say he prefers consistency over making them work for a spotQuote from: westcliff white on January 31, 2017, 09:52:32 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:50:52 PMthey didn't want to sell him, every player has a release clause in their contracts in Spain, don't think you can sign a contract if it doesn't have one. So not wanting to sell him they have allegedly offered him a new contractQuote from: fulhamben on January 31, 2017, 09:46:49 PMQuote from: toshes mate on January 31, 2017, 09:34:39 PMYep, can't believe this couldn't have been done sooner. And if the enrich rumours were true, then we could have met his buy out clause on the first of January. No domino effect with this player
Well I am not going to take back what I said about our transfer team because at the very last they do what they could have done weeks ago, but Cyriac is a good signing and he'll be a hard act to keep out of the danger area. Quick and strong and well worth the loan. Now Fulham where is this second signing?
I really don't understand the Enrich scenario at all unless his parent club were playing silly buggers all along.
Looking on the brighter side SJ may be very pleased to have an option other than Martin in the form of Cyriac because he really knows how to make players work for their places in the side, but another signing with an hour to go would be the icing on the cake so far as a promotion challenge goes.
Quote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 10:15:44 PM
Enrich: I would be surprised if we've not had a couple of lower bids turned down by Eibar in this window, but whether it's the player not wanting to join us or his club who have scuppered the transfer, if we'd met the release clause last week, we'd have found out all of this in time to target a different striker of his calibre.
I know the facts of the situation are not fully known (they never are) and I would normally defend the club from assumptions, but at face value, it does appear a poor decision to wait until the final day of the window to try to secure a player whom we've known all about for the past six months... only to find that we were never going to be able to get him and, to make matters worse, not leave ourselves the chance to spend our £8.6M elsewhere.
Quote from: Arthur on January 31, 2017, 10:15:44 PM
Enrich: I would be surprised if we've not had a couple of lower bids turned down by Eibar in this window, but whether it's the player not wanting to join us or his club who have scuppered the transfer, if we'd met the release clause last week, we'd have found out all of this in time to target a different striker of his calibre.
I know the facts of the situation are not fully known (they never are) and I would normally defend the club from assumptions, but at face value, it does appear a poor decision to wait until the final day of the window to try to secure a player whom we've known all about for the past six months... only to find that we were never going to be able to get him and, to make matters worse, not leave ourselves the chance to spend our £8.6M elsewhere.
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 10:07:23 PMQuote from: TerryR on January 31, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
Apparently the club was saying the player had to buy himself out.
With taxes it was adding 4 million euros to the price. 14 million is deemed too much by FFC
Clearly Derby aren't the only dirty buggers
first of all that doesn't make sense. when you have a contract under which someone pays you money, it's them that have to buy you out, not the other way around... or are we saying we didn't want to pay the full amount required to trigger the release clause and asked the play to pay some of his own transfer fee? in which case that's just us being tight
secondly even if it is down to some intricacy of spanish tax/contract rules, whatever the actual explanation, was it not something a little bit of due diligence / local legal knowledge would have picked up, which a competent club who've been watching this player for 6 months would have done
thirdly i agree with ben - i can't think of any explanation where the deal couldn't have been done sooner in the window, unless perhaps we just wanted to give his agent less time to offer him around to other clubs before signing with us
Quote from: One James stannard on January 31, 2017, 10:17:24 PMRemy is a pipe dream
Must admit I'm gutted about Jordan Rhodes, he knows where the net is and is a great buy at 10m for a 26 year old PROVEN goal scorer.
I'd also be happy if we could bring in Loic remy, a player who I think is very under rated.
All that being said I have full confidence and trust in Slav
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2017, 10:07:23 PMQuote from: TerryR on January 31, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
Apparently the club was saying the player had to buy himself out.
With taxes it was adding 4 million euros to the price. 14 million is deemed too much by FFC
Clearly Derby aren't the only dirty buggers
first of all that doesn't make sense. when you have a contract under which someone pays you money, it's them that have to buy you out, not the other way around... or are we saying we didn't want to pay the full amount required to trigger the release clause and asked the play to pay some of his own transfer fee? in which case that's just us being tight
secondly even if it is down to some intricacy of spanish tax/contract rules, whatever the actual explanation, was it not something a little bit of due diligence / local legal knowledge would have picked up, which a competent club who've been watching this player for 6 months would have done
thirdly i agree with ben - i can't think of any explanation where the deal couldn't have been done sooner in the window, unless perhaps we just wanted to give his agent less time to offer him around to other clubs before signing with us
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 31, 2017, 10:35:35 PM
Im more excited about Kamara than Cyriac. Young, fast, rated by Amiens fans. Willing to give them a chance anyway. The way i see it they cant be more ineffectual than Smith Woodrow and Humphries ao we arent any weaker than we were last week
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 31, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
On a massive positive...... we have kept Tom Cairney ;0
Quote from: twang on January 31, 2017, 10:54:34 PMCairney, Sess and Joka will be gone in August......... Weve just found a decent manager that can polish a turd yet the board dont back him!Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 31, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
On a massive positive...... we have kept Tom Cairney ;0
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T JINX IT!
Quote from: ollienixs on January 31, 2017, 11:07:20 PMShe just tweeted that they are allowed to go home now so guess that's it done
Sarah has yet to say that's all on her twitter which she does ever transfer window
Quote from: ollienixs on January 31, 2017, 11:07:20 PM
Sarah has yet to say that's all on her twitter which she does ever transfer window
Quote from: ollienixs on January 31, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
There is still one to come. Read the tweet. It's not a out and out end of as she normally states
Quote from: Ordar on January 31, 2017, 11:12:52 PM
I can see Joka walking
Quote from: ollienixs on January 31, 2017, 11:15:20 PMWell, if it ain't Defoe don't bother to wake me!!!!!!!!!!!! GGRRRRR :(
There is still one to come. Read the tweet. It's not a out and out end of as she normally states
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 31, 2017, 11:38:06 PM
I still don't understand how Villa can spend 24 million on two players this season. Yet we keep on talking about FFP and have done since the first season. Even now in January we sell or loan out an entire team. Must help with the wage bill and bring in two. Have we the smallest squad in the division now?
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 31, 2017, 11:42:46 PM
I'm seriously considering holding up a 'Khan Out' poster next home game
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 01, 2017, 12:25:43 AM
Forest have signed Ross Mcormack on loan until the end of the season - Official
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 31, 2017, 08:32:07 PM
Ok - please accept apology I did not want to upset you!
But you must do what you must and if that means you will not accept my apology then so be it - there's nothing I can do, shame
Remember this, we are all sensitive and worried each window and so say our bit - this often leads the o misunderstanding and/or conflict. At the end of the day we all want what's best for the club we support.
Quote from: Riverside on February 01, 2017, 12:37:11 PM
Result
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/startseite/wettbewerb/GB2 (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/startseite/wettbewerb/GB2)
1) Smallest squad in the Championship
BUT
2) 6th most valuable . And the 3 most valuable all came down last year and have 1st year parachute payments
We have quality but not quantity .
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 01, 2017, 10:36:20 AM"Could Be"???
for all you know I could be a Chimpanzee rattling a load of crap as I print this while eating a banana.
Quote from: Riverside on February 01, 2017, 12:37:11 PM
Result
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/startseite/wettbewerb/GB2 (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/startseite/wettbewerb/GB2)
1) Smallest squad in the Championship
BUT
2) 6th most valuable . And the 3 most valuable all came down last year and have 1st year parachute payments
We have quality but not quantity .
Quote from: fulhamben on February 01, 2017, 12:03:55 AM
No point wasting money in this window l. The derby player has sabotaged our season beyond repair
