Ladies & Gentlemen, it's officially that time of year again where Friends of Fulham enters the Silly Transfer Season of 2015.
This summer, FFC will undoubtedly be linked with every player that the Media can throw at us, young or old, good or rubbish, expensive or cheap, or just as ridiculous as it may sound.
Love it or hate it, and to keep up with every single movement, we have once again opened the Official Silly Season Transfer thread.
The aim, is to keep all Transfer news in one place for everyone to see, so if you hear of any rumors, links, or news about possible FFC transfers, please post them here.
From time to time, we may choose to clean this thread up a bit, as they do generally collect a lot of off topic information.
Please enjoy, and all have a wonderful summer.
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Fulham consider summer move for ex-Chelsea winger
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Kit Symons' Fulham are considering a summer move for former Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips, according to FLW sources.
FLW understands Fulham are targeting a move for Wright-Phillips
FLW understands Fulham are targeting a move for Wright-Phillips
FLW understands that the 33-year-old is being targeted by the west London club as a player who will help the club push for promotion next season.
The former Chelsea and Manchester City midfielder currently plies his trade for Premier League strugglers Queens Park Rangers, however has only managed to amass a mere 124 minutes of football this season.
Wright-Phillips has been at QPR since 2011, but has found first-team opportunities increasingly hard to acquire in recent seasons.
The brother of Bradley Wright-Phillips – Shaun is one of the highest earners at QPR so would seemingly need to take a pay cut to join the Cottagers in a deal this summer.
Whether Wright-Phillips will want to take the step down to the Sky Bet Championship is unknown as of yet, but it could be his only opportunity of first-team football.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-consider-summer-move-for-ex-chelsea-winger/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-consider-summer-move-for-ex-chelsea-winger/)
Fulham Eyeing Ando
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Fulham are keeping tabs on Town midfielder Paul Anderson, TWTD understands.
The 26-year-old's Blues contract is up at the end of the season, although Town have an option for a further year.
Anderson has been in and out of the Town side this season, making 20 starts and 14 sub appearances, scoring one goal.
The winger, who joined the Blues from Bristol City in a swap deal which saw Jay Emmanuel-Thomas move in the opposite direction in the summer of 2013, was singled out for praise by manager Mick McCarthy<./a> following Saturday's 2-1 home victory over Nottingham Forest.
Also currently due to be out of contract at the end of the season are Elliott Hewitt (although Town have an option for another season), Noel Hunt, Stephen Hunt (but he would automatically get another year if the Blues are promoted), Jay Tabb, Paddy Kenny, Jack Marriott and Anthony Wordsworth.
Loanees Luke Varney and Richard Chaplow will also be out of contract with their parent clubs at the end of the campaign.
http://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/27335/fulham-eyeing-ando (http://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/27335/fulham-eyeing-ando)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 03, 2015, 11:42:27 AM
Fulham consider summer move for ex-Chelsea winger
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Kit Symons' Fulham are considering a summer move for former Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips, according to FLW sources.
FLW understands Fulham are targeting a move for Wright-Phillips
FLW understands Fulham are targeting a move for Wright-Phillips
FLW understands that the 33-year-old is being targeted by the west London club as a player who will help the club push for promotion next season.
The former Chelsea and Manchester City midfielder currently plies his trade for Premier League strugglers Queens Park Rangers, however has only managed to amass a mere 124 minutes of football this season.
Wright-Phillips has been at QPR since 2011, but has found first-team opportunities increasingly hard to acquire in recent seasons.
The brother of Bradley Wright-Phillips – Shaun is one of the highest earners at QPR so would seemingly need to take a pay cut to join the Cottagers in a deal this summer.
Whether Wright-Phillips will want to take the step down to the Sky Bet Championship is unknown as of yet, but it could be his only opportunity of first-team football.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-consider-summer-move-for-ex-chelsea-winger/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-consider-summer-move-for-ex-chelsea-winger/)
Please no, cannot get into a poor QPR side, he is too old and past it. :dead horse:
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 03, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Blimey... He won't be here long then :dft011:
Quote from: Burt on May 03, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 03, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Blimey... He won't be here long then :dft011:
I imagine he'd probably struggle to make it through pre season.
There is no way we could sign any of those 3 players. Shelvey starts most games for Swansea and has done very well for them this season. No reason he would join Fulham
Excellent. I always look forward to this bi-annual feature. There has been so much rubbish posted on these pages these last few months that it will be nice to see the opening of an officially approved garbage bin.
I suppose we can't expect some of the high-class flights of fancy of previous years, although I see we have already kicked-off with the barrel scrapings.
I think my favourite from a couple of years ago was when we were solemnly assured that Thiago Alcantara was on his way. He got injured soon after making the baffling decision to go to Bayern instead, but will be seen out this week against Barca.
Although I also liked the rumour that we would get hold of that Central American guy, forget his name now, whose 24 goals and superb creative play had propelled FC Twente to a rare Dutch championship. As if!
Who the hell linked us to Shelvey?? He's an established prem player coming into his prime - no chance he's coming to us or any other Championship club for that matter..
Quote from: cmg on May 03, 2015, 02:37:38 PM
Excellent. I always look forward to this bi-annual feature. There has been so much rubbish posted on these pages these last few months that it will be nice to see the opening of an officially approved garbage bin.
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I suppose we can't expect some of the high-class flights of fancy of previous years, although I see we have already kicked-off with the barrel scrapings.
I think my favourite from a couple of years ago was when we were solemnly assured that Thiago Alcantara was on his way. He got injured soon after making the baffling decision to go to Bayern instead, but will be seen out this week against Barca.
Although I also liked the rumour that we would get hold of that Central American guy, forget his name now, whose 24 goals and superb creative play had propelled FC Twente to a rare Dutch championship. As if!
Your Correct Sir, but its good for a laugh... :005:
Quote from: @jolslover on May 03, 2015, 02:19:13 PM
There is no way we could sign any of those 3 players. Shelvey starts most games for Swansea and has done very well for them this season. No reason he would join Fulham
Shelvey has a massive attitude problem and my mate who is a swans fan has said on numerous occasions he is behind quite a few back room bust ups. Likes to think of himself as the big fish, I would be more than happy to spend some wages and catch ourselves a fish of shelvey's size
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Quote from: Craven Mad on May 03, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Who the hell linked us to Shelvey?? He's an established prem player coming into his prime - no chance he's coming to us or any other Championship club for that matter..
Talkpoop, think Hilda the tealady was gosipping with her that
makes Brazils morning cuppa...
Barton,Marshell and Shelby----- what a midfield trio
It would match our most famous:
Freeman Hardy and Lewis
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on May 03, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Who the hell linked us to Shelvey?? He's an established prem player coming into his prime - no chance he's coming to us or any other Championship club for that matter..
Talkpoop, think Hilda the tealady was gosipping with her that
makes Brazils morning cuppa...
Haha of course! :005:
Mr Khan, please please please can we have David Cotterill
Still think Adkins would be the best choice if Big Sam's wages are too much...
Disagree, Most my friends that are Reading fans dont rate Adkins atall
Would like to see us get Warburton Rowett or Oscar Garcia. If not one of those 3 then maybe Poyet
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
Lets add Robert Huth and we'll become the Stoke of the Championship.
Truth be told, we could use a hard man. We were certainly pushed around a lot this past season.
wingers I would love - Jeremy Helan and Gareth Mcleary
couple of strikers requiring clubs - Carlton Cole ;-) and Yanick Sagbo
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 03, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
Lets add Robert Huth and we'll become the Stoke of the Championship.
Truth be told, we could use a hard man. We were certainly pushed around a lot this past season.
Yes I'd take Barton baggage n all, he can actually play a bit..
defenders that wouldn't cost much if anything at all -
Roger Johnson
Robert Huth
Diakite
Jon Mensah
Alcaraz
Figueroa
Javier garido
Liam Rosenoir
Quote from: Humbled on May 03, 2015, 09:32:44 PM
defenders that wouldn't cost much if anything at all -
Roger Johnson
Robert Huth
Diakite
Jon Mensah
Alcaraz
Figueroa
Javier garido
Liam Rosenoir
Not a bad list. Think Rosenior, Huth and Diakite stand out for me.
Fulham misfit wanted in exchange for stormy Nigerian World Cup international
Whites set to get offered swap deal for Greek World Cup forward
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Fenerbahce are poised to come to Fulham's rescue over Kostas Mitroglou.
The Whites white elephant cost a club record £12 million when signed in January 2014, but after spending the rest of the season mostly on the sidelines as Fulham took the Premier League plunge, was dispatched back to the club from where he came.
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Swap?: Kostas Mitroglou
Olympiakos delighted in watching the on-loan Greek World Cup international score 19 goals in 32 appearances this campaign, but don't have the cash to buy him back.
He is also wanted by the Turkish giants, getwestlondon understands - but any offer may come with a sharp intake of breath at the Cottage end.
Fenerbahce want to offload Nigerian international Emmanuel Emenike in part exchange.
If the name is familiar, this was the same Emenike that demanded to be substituted after being booed by his own fans during their 1-0 home win over rivals Besiktas in March (see video).
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France's Hugo Lloris is beaten by Emenike - but the goal is ruled out in World Cup 2014
The striker reacted angrily to catcalls after losing the ball and took his shirt off, storming off the pitch, only be to be talked back on by his coaching staff.
He was replaced at half-time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkvTwE5PjeU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkvTwE5PjeU#ws)
Emenike, is in his second spell at the club, has only scored four goals in 25 Turkish Super League appearances this season.
He joined Fenerbahce in 2011 but was linked to a match-fixing scandal, though later cleared and joined Spartak Moscow before playing a game for the Istanbul club. He then rejoined in 2013 for a reported £10.2 million.
The hefty price came partly as a result of exploits for Nigeria as they lifted the African Cup of Nations in 2013. He also featured in three out of four games for the Super Eagles at last summer's World Cup.
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-misfit-wanted-exchange-stormy-9179463 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-misfit-wanted-exchange-stormy-9179463)
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Fulham should match my Fifa team & sign
Curtis Davies
Richie De Laet
Tyrone Mings
Vurnon Anita
Sam Byram
Dwight Gayle
That would be good business by the club I think
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on May 04, 2015, 08:10:10 PM
Fulham should match my Fifa team & sign
Curtis Davies
Richie De Laet
Tyrone Mings
Vurnon Anita
Sam Byram
Dwight Gayle
That would be good business by the club I think
Gayle would be a good signing. As would de laet, but he's in Leicesters first 11.
Quote from: @jolslover on May 04, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Yeah righto, 4 in 25 in a two bob league hardly suggests he'll tear up the championship
Quote from: Fernhurst on May 03, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Barton,Marshell and Shelby----- what a midfield trio
It would match our most famous:
Freeman Hardy and Lewis
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on May 04, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on May 03, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Barton,Marshell and Shelby----- what a midfield trio
It would match our most famous:
Freeman Hardy and Lewis
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 04, 2015, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 04, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Yeah righto, 4 in 25 in a two bob league hardly suggests he'll tear up the championship
Turkish Super Lig, two bob? Most teams would comfortably beat upper Champ sides. Also that's selective stat reading (ie just for this season). His current record is 17 in 64 at Fenerbahce with 17 assists, 24 in 51 at Spartak Moscow with 8 assists (Russian League two bob as well though right?) and 30 in 51 at Karabükspor with 5 assists.
But we could just write him off now before watching him right?
Quote from: TWFL on May 05, 2015, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 04, 2015, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 04, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Yeah righto, 4 in 25 in a two bob league hardly suggests he'll tear up the championship
Turkish Super Lig, two bob? Most teams would comfortably beat upper Champ sides. Also that's selective stat reading (ie just for this season). His current record is 17 in 64 at Fenerbahce with 17 assists, 24 in 51 at Spartak Moscow with 8 assists (Russian League two bob as well though right?) and 30 in 51 at Karabükspor with 5 assists.
But we could just write him off now before watching him right?
Ooof, go on statto!
For me the Turkish league is not to bad the top club would compete around the mind part of the PL, but not so sure on the Russian league.
Would not trust one result in the Turkish league
I get you point there MJG.
Emenike may not be too bad a signing given his form for Nigeria, however if he takes fan criticism to heart then he would hardly play for us given some of the antics and criticisms on this board at times.
Quote from: westcliff white on May 05, 2015, 08:25:46 AM
I get you point there MJG.
Emenike may not be too bad a signing given his form for Nigeria, however if he takes fan criticism to heart then he would hardly play for us given some of the antics and criticisms on this board at times.
if he read this board he would have a permanent strop.
Jed Wallace , 21 year old attacking mid fielder , scored 17 times for Portsmouth this season from mid field, voted their player of the year,
Announced that he wants to play at a higher level, heavily linked yesterday with us and Wolves .
Yes yes yes and yes Wallace.
Hopefully Passley can help talk us up to Wallace
Apparently we're on the trail of Rob Elliot - who would now be 3rd choice 'keeper at Newcastle. Originally transferred there from Charlton.
I'm still perplexed by Richard Lee's role at Fulham ~ goalkeeping coach?
Fulham want Newcastle United understudy goalkeeper Rob Elliot
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Newcastle United's Rob Elliot in action against West Ham
Fulham are eyeing a move for Newcastle United goalkeeper Rob Elliot.
Sources in the capital say that Elliot is keen on a return to London and Craven Cottage could be a destination. Elliot still has another year left on his contract at St James' Park but he is facing the prospect of being third choice at Newcastle next season – even if he is fully fit.
Elliot has made just five appearances for Newcastle this term and has suffered injury problems. And should United manage to keep hold of Tim Krul it will be the Dutchman and Karl Darlow - who starts training with the Magpies in July after a move from Nottingham Forest - who will do battle for the gloves next term.
Of course, Krul will start the season as first choice but the addition of some quality competition for the gloves could benefit the Dutch international.
Elliot joined Newcastle from Charlton Athletic and has made just 22 appearances in four years.
United will be unlikely to stand in Elliot's way if he wants to go with Freddie Woodman and Paul Woolston both England youth internationals and impressing in the reserve and youth ranks this term.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-want-newcastle-united-understudy-9184073 (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-want-newcastle-united-understudy-9184073)
Papers say £7mill (€10m), given that I can't see him ever wanting to play for us again (not sure he ever did want to), if true that would be a decent result for us. Of course it could all be a ploy to get Olympiacos to make a decent bid rather than try to get him for next to nothing but only a cynic of the transfer system (and the way in which football conducts itself) might think that. His injury history suggests that another long term lay-off is always just around the corner and it would be nice to close the door on this particular saga early in the window so that we know where we stand.
Just noticed the reference about Fenerbahce being interested in a swop deal, doesn't seem a likely deal for us and I'm not sure how many Greeks go and play in the Turkish league but at least it all adds to the interest.
All these rumours depends on who is in charge come august and how much of a war chest they have been given, but still I love the rumours and the paper talk
we cannot afford to wait till August before we make our moves.
Quote from: westcliff white on May 06, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
we cannot afford to wait till August before we make our moves.
Totally agree, act sooner rather than later in whatever we are doing but we do like to drag things out and leave it late
To be fair, our season only ended 5 days ago, plenty others are still playing.
Agree TTT, just saying we cannot leave our actions to late in the window
Apparently we are after Jay Emmanuel Thomas out of contract at
Bristol City, Birmingham also after him according to todays rumour monger
Red Tops...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 06, 2015, 03:09:56 PM
Apparently we are after Jay Emmanuel Thomas out of contract at
Bristol City, Birmingham also after him according to todays rumour monger
Red Tops...
I rate him, after Bristol played West Ham in the cup I did think he may be worth a bid at the right price. On a free he is a steal.
The Sun today re-launching the Warburton rumour, lazy journalism or no smoke without fire?
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Heard we are monitoring Diego Fabbrini
Whatever "monitoring" means
not seen us linked with Fabbrini anywhere, so if true that would be decent
Heard it from Rigg himself. He said "Monitoring" So may not actually mean anything
Fabbrini & JET.
Now that would be nice.
Skills for days.
Quote from: @jolslover on May 07, 2015, 11:04:10 AM
Heard it from Rigg himself. He said "Monitoring" So may not actually mean anything
Mike Rigg told a fan that FFC were monitoring a player, blooming heck that's a change from our normal way of doing things
Quote from: westcliff white on May 07, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 07, 2015, 11:04:10 AM
Heard it from Rigg himself. He said "Monitoring" So may not actually mean anything
Mike Rigg told a fan that FFC were monitoring a player, blooming heck that's a change from our normal way of doing things
Mike Rigg is not normal. Knew him when he was a kid. :58:
Monitoring means we have him wired up to a heart machine which is just the start of the famous Fulham medical. It will probably finish on the last day of the transfer window if they hurry.
....and as soon as the signature's on the contract his right leg will drop off.
Quote from: cmg on May 07, 2015, 02:11:22 PM
....and as soon as the signature's on the contract his right leg will drop off.
But...he will be ft to play next week...(And repeat until end of season! )
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 07, 2015, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: cmg on May 07, 2015, 02:11:22 PM
....and as soon as the signature's on the contract his right leg will drop off.
But...he will be ft to play next week...(And repeat until end of season! )
Ah...the ol' Diarra shuffle. I remember those days.
What is everyone's thoughts on the Newcastle keeper that we are linked with?
Talkpoop...Fulham set to swoop for Preston hotshot Joe Garner
if North End dont go up through playoffs...
French press are linking Fulham and Seville with former Middlesborough midfielder, Didier Digard. The 26 year old, 6ft defensive midfielder only made 32 appearances for Boro before going to Nice on loan and then joining on a permanent transfer.
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Digards contract only has 1 year left before he's available on a free so his fee shouldn't be too high.
With so many of our midfielders running out of contract in the summer, expect this to be one of many links for players across the centre.
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
That's about 3 years old...
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 09, 2015, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
That's about 3 years old...
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Fulham (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Fulham)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 09, 2015, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
That's about 3 years old...
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Fulham (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Fulham)
Thing is he is on loan from Southampton to boca juniors. I know your only posting what journo's write but I think its old.
And Gervinho played for Roma tonight. If it's a new article then it's absolutely dreadful :p
Please ignore. Looks like Viva el Fulham has been hacked, or churning out old articles.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:53:46 PM
Please ignore. Looks like Viva el Fulham has been hacked, or churning out old articles.
LOL, I didnt realise that would happen. I'm just moving articles around and didnt know that would happen.
The internet you just cant trust it
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Would like to see us move for Fabbrini or McGugan to replace Ruiz.
Either would be money well spent IMO. Both performing at a high level with room to grow and possibly be an impact player on a PL side. Fabrinni is 2 years younger though.
Not sure if this has been mentioned. But as multi topic threads are common now.
Fulham among clubs chasing loan deal for Tottenham Hotspur midfielder
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Fulham, Charlton Athletic and Brentford are interested in taking former MK Dons star Dele Alli on loan next season, reports MK Web.
Alli is wanted on a loan deal by a number of Championship clubs
Alli is wanted on a loan deal by a number of Championship clubs
The 19-year-old joined Tottenham Hotspur in a £5 million deal in February but was allowed to spend the rest of the season at stadium:mk, where he helped the club win promotion to the Championship on the last day of the League One season.
But Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino may be willing to let the midfielder go out on loan for another season to further develop his footballing education.
The Argentine will run the rule over Alli once he joins up with the squad for pre-season training.
The England Under-19 international has had an exceptional season at MK Dons, hitting 16 goals in 39 appearances as the Dons finished runners-up in League One behind winners Bristol City.
He was named the Football League Young Player of the Year last month and was shortlisted for League One Player of the Year, which was won be Preston's Joe Garner.
Alli came through the youth ranks at MK Dons and went on to score 24 goals in 88 appearances.
According to one newspaper today Fulham are preparing a £5 millin pound bid for Demarai Gray from Birmingham
Quote from: spikey norman on May 15, 2015, 07:36:06 AM
According to one newspaper today Fulham are preparing a £5 millin pound bid for Demarai Gray from Birmingham
He's worth way more than £5m! If we get him for anything close to that it'd be a steal.
Which paper?
The Sun and Sky Sports showing this in their paper round up section.
Thanks
Just seen his contract is up at the end of June - explaining the low-ball offer.
I think Gray has his sights set on the premier league (which is why he's rejected contract talks with Brum). He's probably more likely to head to a lower-prem side. But maybe Rigg will be able to tempt him here by selling a "promotion push" season with an exit clause if it's not achieved..
It'd be great to have him here, he's quick and skilful and would sort out our left mid/wing, but I reckon it's unlikely he'll stay in the Championship.
Agree
Bournemouth will probably try for him again.I think they had three bids for him rejected in the January window and one was £5 million.
Quote from: spikey norman on May 15, 2015, 07:36:06 AM
According to one newspaper today Fulham are preparing a £5 millin pound bid for Demarai Gray from Birmingham
Certainly a step up on some of the iffy commodities we have been linked with.
A very fine young player.
Couple of snags as I see it:
1.One would think he is set for the PL
2. Although he is a team mate of Roberts in the England u18s (he usually plays on the other wing) one MIGHT see him as a Roberts replacement rather than a complement.
I'd say he was at a slightly more advanced stage in his football development compared to Pat, although Pat still has the greater potential (in my opinion).
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Whatever you might think of him as a player, Bryan comes across as one hell of a nice guy.
Far less talented players than him would have thrown the toys out of the pram long before now.
I know he is getting well paid, I know it is partly down to his weaknesses that teams haven't been falling over themselves to sign him and I know that this extension is probably just a device so that we (quite rightly) realize a bit of dough on, him but he has always conducted himself in a professional, dignified fashion. Good luck to him, whatever might lie ahead.
Quote from: cmg on May 15, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Whatever you might think of him as a player, Bryan comes across as one hell of a nice guy.
Far less talented players than him would have thrown the toys out of the pram long before now.
I know he is getting well paid, I know it is partly down to his weaknesses that teams haven't been falling over themselves to sign him and I know that this extension is probably just a device so that we (quite rightly) realize a bit of dough on, him but he has always conducted himself in a professional, dignified fashion. Good luck to him, whatever might lie ahead.
Well said.
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The linked article [google translated]:
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Bryan Ruiz met this Thursday by the club Fulham that will make effective renewal of a year that had to please in the contract, so the Costa Rican Captain will remain linked to the English club until June 2016.
Bryan said that with this decision taken by the Fulham you faint not because he was confident that this club can negotiate with teams that are interested by it during window of transfers, which starts in June and ends in August, to return to the first Division in Europe, or another continent.
On the other hand, the tico player showed his pleasure by incorporating that took this Thursday the national team for the Gold Cup."
The translation is hard to understand, but it seems fair to say that we've renewed his contract for another year with the intention to allow him to negotiate with other clubs and recover some costs in a sale if a suitor comes in with an acceptable bid.
So, he's here for now but could be off during the summer.
Also, I completely agree with the statements above: Bryan is a class act both on and off the pitch. Some may get annoyed by his style of play, but he put in some big shifts this year, even though we all know he wants out. Most players these days would just sulk until they get transferred.
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Well one thing can't be denied. We're definitely looking to be busy. Season barely over and being linked left, right and centre. Let's hope we actually get them done in time for pre season.
Rumour Round-Up: The Latest Fulham Transfer Gossip
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The Sun are reporting that Fulham are readying a £7 million bid for Birmingham youngster Demarai Gray - the 3rd source to report this rumour
The 18-year-old burst onto the scene for Birmingham City this year, playing in 35 games, a tremendous achievement at such a young age. He has recently been called up to train with the England under-21s but has also been linked with a £5-7million deal to the Cottagers. Gray has a year left on his contract and has attracted significant interest from the Premier League new-boys, Bournemouth, who have had three bids rejected already whilst Liverpool and PSV Eindhoven are also, reportedly, in the reckoning.
Fulham are believed to have bid a second time for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk. Fee is believed to be £750k.
Sky Sources believe that Fulham had a bid rejected earlier on in the week, but have since upped their offer to £750k. This is still surprising, as the defender is valued above £4m in many eyes. He is just one of many youngsters which Fulham are keeping tabs on. The Rams are also reported to be keen on the 23-year-old centre-back, along with Championship rivals Fulham. Brighton are said to be keen to keep hold of one of their brightest prospects, who signed a four-year contract with his hometown club last summer. Dunk has made more than 100 appearances for the Seagulls, having come through the youth ranks. He played 44 games this season and scored seven goals.
Fulham, Charlton Athletic and Brentford are interested in taking former MK Dons star Dele Alli on loan next season, reports MK Web.
The 19-year-old joined Tottenham Hotspur in a £5 million deal in February but was allowed to spend the rest of the season at stadium MK, where he helped the club win promotion to the Championship on the last day of the League One season. But Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino may be willing to let the midfielder go out on loan for another season to further develop his footballing education. The Argentine will run the rule over Alli once he joins up with the squad for pre-season training. Alli came through the youth ranks at MK Dons and went on to score 24 goals in 88 appearances.
Emmanuel Emenike has rejected the chance to play his football in Qatar next season and has been linked with Fulham.
Fenerbahce want to offload Nigerian international Emmanuel Emenike in part exchange. If the name is familiar, this was the same Emenike that demanded to be substituted after being booed by his own fans during their 1-0 home win over rivals Besiktas in March. Emenike, is in his second spell at the club, has only scored four goals in 25 Turkish Super League appearances this season. He joined Fenerbahce in 2011 but was linked to a match-fixing scandal, though later cleared and joined Spartak Moscow before playing a game for the Istanbul club. He then rejoined in 2013 for a reported £10.2 million.
Portsmouth star, Jed Wallace is a transfer target for Fulham & Wolves this summer.
The contract Wallace signed last summer contains a transfer fee release clause, with Fulham, Ipswich and Wolves among those showing interest. The newly-appointed Blues boss met the 21-year-old at the club's training ground on Wednesday afternoon in an attempt to clarify his future. There would also be a transfer fee involved, with the youngster's contract clause believed to be worth £275,000.
French press are linking Fulham and Seville with former Middlesborough midfielder, Didier Digard.
The 26 year old, 6ft defensive midfielder only made 32 appearances for Boro before going to Nice on loan and then joining on a permanent transfer. Digards contract only has 1 year left before he's available on a free so his fee shouldn't be too high. With so many of Fulham's midfielders running out of contract in the summer, expect this to be one of many links for players across the centre.
Bryan Ruiz has been linked to a £4.3m move to Porto, Sporting Lisbon or Benfica despite having his contract extended by Fulham
It is believed that the Cottagers will be seeking a transfer fee of anything in excess of £5million pounds for the 29-year-old, who still has a lot to give in the professional game as a creative midfielder eager to cement his ability in one of Europe's top leagues again. His new contract means he is contracted with Fulham until June of 2016, and although it was reported he was set to leave the club last summer to La Liga outfit Levante, the loan-to-buy move fell through.
Lasse Vigen Christensen has shut down Aston Villa rumours by commenting on his long term commitment to the Whites.
Speaking to West London Sport, 20-year-old Christensen has admitted that his future lies with Fulham, despite interest in him from Villa this season. "It would have been stupid for me to go in January. I'd only just got in the team and I still have lots to learn and do. I heard a bit from the lads [about the Villa rumours] but there was no way I was going to leave in January. "I've been at this club for a fairly long time and when you're connected to a club you want to see them do well. I want to see Fulham back in the Premier League. That's all I'm thinking about."
Fulham and Nottingham Forest will battle it out to sign Bolton defender Matt Mills
Get West London is reporting that Bolton Wanderers and Instagram's own Matt Mills has been discussing a free transfer move to either Nottingham Forest or Fulham. Mills, who joined the Super Whites for £2m in 2012, is believed to be on the brink of cutting ties with the club in the hope of improving his reported £18,000 a week salary. He almost joined the London side on loan after Christmas, but such was his initial form under Neil Lennon that the ex-Celtic boss was reluctant to let him go. Mills' dreadful form in the last three months however has seemingly softened the manager's position on the player.
http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip (http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 17, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Rumour Round-Up: The Latest Fulham Transfer Gossip
The Sun are reporting that Fulham are readying a £7 million bid for Birmingham youngster Demarai Gray - the 3rd source to report this rumour
Fulham are believed to have bid a second time for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk. Fee is believed to be £750k.
Fulham, Charlton Athletic and Brentford are interested in taking former MK Dons star Dele Alli on loan next season, reports MK Web.
Emmanuel Emenike has rejected the chance to play his football in Qatar next season and has been linked with Fulham.
Portsmouth star, Jed Wallace is a transfer target for Fulham & Wolves this summer.
French press are linking Fulham and Seville with former Middlesborough midfielder, Didier Digard.
Lasse Vigen Christensen has shut down Aston Villa rumours by commenting on his long term commitment to the Whites.
Fulham and Nottingham Forest will battle it out to sign Bolton defender Matt Mills
http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip (http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip)
Blimey and that's just the first week. They'd better get a shift on with that Riverside expansion.
http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/general/weekly-rumour-roundup-1-1-602.html (http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/general/weekly-rumour-roundup-1-1-602.html)
No sooner has Fulham's season ended and a flurry of transfer rumours have emerged. It certainly appears that the club is being proactive if the following newspaper reports and rumours have any substance too them.
The Sun linked Fulham with a �7 million pound move for 18 year old Demarai Gray of Birmingham. You could be forgiven for thinking that that would be an odd deal - why would Fulham spend that much on an 18 year old? This is purely conjecture on my part, a rumour about a rumour if you will, but there is an eerie quietness regarding a new contract for Patrick Roberts. Both Gray and Roberts are in the final year of each of their contracts, so maybe Fulham will be cashing in on Roberts and cashing out with Gray?
Sky Sports News ran with the story that Fulham had bid for Lewis Dunk of Brighton. A 23 year old defender who just signed a new 4 year contract with Brighton last season, it certainly will be difficult to prise him away. Dunk played 38 times for Brighton this season scoring 5 goals in the process. If Fulham do sign him, expect The Sun or the like to run with the lazy headline, 'A Fulham slam Dunk.' I have given you fair warning.
The future of Kit Symons has been discussed to death but it looks like he will be staying as manager. Several newspaper outlets have run with the story that Symons will be staying on as Fulham manager following a meeting with Khan and Mike Rigg. It seems like Mike Rigg does not want to rock the boat too much especially after his QPR debacle. However the club have appointed him to make these big decisions no matter how hard they might be.
Indicative of the clubs lack of faith in Symons as manager is the rumours that Fulham are seeking to bring experienced heads to help him. It doesn't say much for a manager, especially of a big Championship club, if he has to have his hand held. The People run with a story saying that Terry Burton, currently technical director at West Brom, is to move to Fulham in a similar capacity. What he'll be technically directing at Fulham is unclear as is how his potential new role will differ from Mike Rigg's. Alan Curbishley is reportedly going to be kept on as Symon's assistant or advisor.
Adam Bogdan and Matt Mills have been linked with Fulham on free transfers as both of their contracts come to an end with Bolton.
18 year old Nigerian striker, Kelechi Iheanacho, was linked to Fulham last night on Twitter by a user called 'Scouts in Attendance.' The user claimed 4 Fulham scouts had been in attendance watching the striker.
Kicker.de say that Fulham have not taken up the option to sign Kostas Stafylidis and that he will return to Leverkusen.
The club took up their option to extend Bryan Ruiz contract much to the players chagrin. On the back of a decent world cup last year no club was willing to match Fulham's �4 million asking price. After a good season in the Championship, it could be the same story for Ruiz and he might have to stay.
Hugo Rodallega's contract expires at the end of the season and there has been little talk in recent weeks of a renewal.
Maarten Stekelenburg is reportedly returning to Fulham after Monaco chose not to extend his deal. Southampton have been linked with a move for the keeper.
Wicked whisper from a Fulham messageboard....Hew Jennings was surprised at being turned down for the role that Rigg now has. Credible or just wicked? You decide.
Two years ago, at about the time we were celebrating the capture of Stekelenburg, the rumour emerged that we were to sign Radja Nainggolan then with Cagliari for £10m (one or two thought this excessive). Of course nothing came of it.
Just watched him in action for Roma (I think he cost them £14m). What a monster of a player. Exactly the kind of CM we have lacked for so long now. Even one half as good would be handy now. Probably worth £25m now.
Quote from: phil_magnus on May 17, 2015, 08:07:39 PM
18 year old Nigerian striker, Kelechi Iheanacho, was linked to Fulham last night on Twitter by a user called 'Scouts in Attendance.' The user claimed 4 Fulham scouts had been in attendance watching the striker.
Isn't he one of Manchester City's hottest young prospects?
Currently in NZ with Nigeria u20 WC squad.
I suppose a Fofana-style loan is possible - although MC have said he won't be loaned out and may go straight into the 1st team squad next season (I'll believe that when I see it).
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 17, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Rumour Round-Up: The Latest Fulham Transfer Gossip
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The Sun are reporting that Fulham are readying a £7 million bid for Birmingham youngster Demarai Gray - the 3rd source to report this rumour
The 18-year-old burst onto the scene for Birmingham City this year, playing in 35 games, a tremendous achievement at such a young age. He has recently been called up to train with the England under-21s but has also been linked with a £5-7million deal to the Cottagers. Gray has a year left on his contract and has attracted significant interest from the Premier League new-boys, Bournemouth, who have had three bids rejected already whilst Liverpool and PSV Eindhoven are also, reportedly, in the reckoning.
Fulham are believed to have bid a second time for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk. Fee is believed to be £750k.
Sky Sources believe that Fulham had a bid rejected earlier on in the week, but have since upped their offer to £750k. This is still surprising, as the defender is valued above £4m in many eyes. He is just one of many youngsters which Fulham are keeping tabs on. The Rams are also reported to be keen on the 23-year-old centre-back, along with Championship rivals Fulham. Brighton are said to be keen to keep hold of one of their brightest prospects, who signed a four-year contract with his hometown club last summer. Dunk has made more than 100 appearances for the Seagulls, having come through the youth ranks. He played 44 games this season and scored seven goals.
Fulham, Charlton Athletic and Brentford are interested in taking former MK Dons star Dele Alli on loan next season, reports MK Web.
The 19-year-old joined Tottenham Hotspur in a £5 million deal in February but was allowed to spend the rest of the season at stadium MK, where he helped the club win promotion to the Championship on the last day of the League One season. But Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino may be willing to let the midfielder go out on loan for another season to further develop his footballing education. The Argentine will run the rule over Alli once he joins up with the squad for pre-season training. Alli came through the youth ranks at MK Dons and went on to score 24 goals in 88 appearances.
Emmanuel Emenike has rejected the chance to play his football in Qatar next season and has been linked with Fulham.
Fenerbahce want to offload Nigerian international Emmanuel Emenike in part exchange. If the name is familiar, this was the same Emenike that demanded to be substituted after being booed by his own fans during their 1-0 home win over rivals Besiktas in March. Emenike, is in his second spell at the club, has only scored four goals in 25 Turkish Super League appearances this season. He joined Fenerbahce in 2011 but was linked to a match-fixing scandal, though later cleared and joined Spartak Moscow before playing a game for the Istanbul club. He then rejoined in 2013 for a reported £10.2 million.
Portsmouth star, Jed Wallace is a transfer target for Fulham & Wolves this summer.
The contract Wallace signed last summer contains a transfer fee release clause, with Fulham, Ipswich and Wolves among those showing interest. The newly-appointed Blues boss met the 21-year-old at the club's training ground on Wednesday afternoon in an attempt to clarify his future. There would also be a transfer fee involved, with the youngster's contract clause believed to be worth £275,000.
French press are linking Fulham and Seville with former Middlesborough midfielder, Didier Digard.
The 26 year old, 6ft defensive midfielder only made 32 appearances for Boro before going to Nice on loan and then joining on a permanent transfer. Digards contract only has 1 year left before he's available on a free so his fee shouldn't be too high. With so many of Fulham's midfielders running out of contract in the summer, expect this to be one of many links for players across the centre.
Bryan Ruiz has been linked to a £4.3m move to Porto, Sporting Lisbon or Benfica despite having his contract extended by Fulham
It is believed that the Cottagers will be seeking a transfer fee of anything in excess of £5million pounds for the 29-year-old, who still has a lot to give in the professional game as a creative midfielder eager to cement his ability in one of Europe's top leagues again. His new contract means he is contracted with Fulham until June of 2016, and although it was reported he was set to leave the club last summer to La Liga outfit Levante, the loan-to-buy move fell through.
Lasse Vigen Christensen has shut down Aston Villa rumours by commenting on his long term commitment to the Whites.
Speaking to West London Sport, 20-year-old Christensen has admitted that his future lies with Fulham, despite interest in him from Villa this season. "It would have been stupid for me to go in January. I'd only just got in the team and I still have lots to learn and do. I heard a bit from the lads [about the Villa rumours] but there was no way I was going to leave in January. "I've been at this club for a fairly long time and when you're connected to a club you want to see them do well. I want to see Fulham back in the Premier League. That's all I'm thinking about."
Fulham and Nottingham Forest will battle it out to sign Bolton defender Matt Mills
Get West London is reporting that Bolton Wanderers and Instagram's own Matt Mills has been discussing a free transfer move to either Nottingham Forest or Fulham. Mills, who joined the Super Whites for £2m in 2012, is believed to be on the brink of cutting ties with the club in the hope of improving his reported £18,000 a week salary. He almost joined the London side on loan after Christmas, but such was his initial form under Neil Lennon that the ex-Celtic boss was reluctant to let him go. Mills' dreadful form in the last three months however has seemingly softened the manager's position on the player.
http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip (http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip)
Some great players there. Would be very happy with practically all that we're linked to in that article.
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David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Not a huge amount of point in him turning up if that is the contractual clause as I doubt he could last the morning without falling in to the prck category... might as well save the bus fare
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Why on earth would McCormack leave one dump in Leeds, finally get settled in the lovely Fulham area and then move to Wolverhampton! Ha.
Surely we wouldn't sell our only asset to a league competitor.
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Why on earth would McCormack leave one dump in Leeds, finally get settled in the lovely Fulham area and then move to Wolverhampton! Ha.
Surely we wouldn't sell our only asset to a league competitor.
Agreed. We'd be mad to accept that offer and Ross would be mad to go.
On another note, if we're going to consider letting Ross go to Wolves, Sako or Iorfa would need to be part of that deal; it would be ridiculous to allow a league rival to massively strengthen themselves without taking some of their actual talent in return.
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18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
That's from the ever reliable transfer rumours website, was it billy bob who posted it I can't remember
This is pretty much the first, good source on that Jed Wallace rumour (and basically any other Fulham related rumour so far). This is the type of sources I generally go by (among other journalists), so this actullay feels real now
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Pete O'Rourke @SportsPeteO
Fulham lead Wolves in the race to sign Portsmouth midfielder Jed Wallace. #ffc #wwfc #Pompey http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/19/fulham-winning-the-race-for-wallace/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/19/fulham-winning-the-race-for-wallace/) ...
Although Pete (and Sky) isnt the source in this case, which is a bit weird. But still...Him tweeting about it still is promising
Jed Wallace is the type of signing we should be making. Young talented and ambitious. Be glad to have him on board.
Rigg has bottled the Kit decision seemingly.
Quote from: phil_magnus on May 19, 2015, 08:33:58 PM
Jed Wallace is the type of signing we should be making. Young talented and ambitious. Be glad to have him on board.
Rigg has bottled the Kit decision seemingly.
Rigg has stated that he won't make the same mistakes as he did at QPR, chopping and changing managers. It's Rigg's decision to keep Kit, and has said he'll continue to build the foundations at FFC and then make the changes (if necessary). In all, I think Rigg is just realistic and knows that we ain't going to bounce back and survive in the Prem in our current state.
If the temporary pain of a few years is needed to repair the foundation and build sustainable success....then it is worth it. Wallace would be a good piece of business. If we sign Wallace, keep LVC, and add a handful of positive signings I am getting pretty excited about the long term direction of the club.
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
Depends which news report you believe - given the reliability of journalists he is probably going to end up in the A League
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Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
Depends which news report you believe - given the reliability of journalists he is probably going to end up in the A League
Agree, I said on the other thread that its just paper talk. Hopefully we do not miss out.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Has to be a joke?
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
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Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Yea those guys all worked out really well for us.. ;)
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Stekelenburg - Couldn't give a toss about Fulham, came for the money, went out on loan to Monaco, won't play for us ever again.
Berbatov - Class, but jumped ship as soon as the going got tough, was never a team player. Again, couldn't give a flying toss about Fulham, he came because of Jol.
Mitrogolou - Lets not even go there
Cassasola - Don't know why you've even brought this lad up?
Parker - at 34 he's always going to come to Fulham for 55k a week.
I love this time of year. Every bog standard heap of a player who goes anywhere will have a thread on here. "Jack Lovingstock to Middlesbrough, get da finger out Khan" etc
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Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AM
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Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Stekelenburg - Couldn't give a toss about Fulham, came for the money, went out on loan to Monaco, won't play for us ever again.
Berbatov - Class, but jumped ship as soon as the going got tough, was never a team player. Again, couldn't give a flying toss about Fulham, he came because of Jol.
Mitrogolou - Lets not even go there
Cassasola - Don't know why you've even brought this lad up?
Parker - at 34 he's always going to come to Fulham for 55k a week.
Quote from: alexbishop on May 21, 2015, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Yea those guys all worked out really well for us.. ;)
Exactly what GTM said, irrelevant how they did, the fact is they chose Fulham when they could have gone elsewhere. Parker could have gone to QPHa last season, but chose to stay, he wouldn't have been on any less there than his is here.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Stekelenburg - Couldn't give a toss about Fulham, came for the money, went out on loan to Monaco, won't play for us ever again.
Berbatov - Class, but jumped ship as soon as the going got tough, was never a team player. Again, couldn't give a flying toss about Fulham, he came because of Jol.
Mitrogolou - Lets not even go there
Cassasola - Don't know why you've even brought this lad up?
Parker - at 34 he's always going to come to Fulham for 55k a week.
Wallace hasn't signed for anyone else, let alone shone, so if we're complaining about losing a player we haven't lost (nor had) you can only look at the potential of the transfers.
Stekelenburg was a WC Final goalkeeper a couple of years before we got him, Berbatov was PL top scorer in his last full season at Man Utd and we stole him from both Fiorentina and Juve, Mitroglou was scoring goals for fun in the Champions League and there was real consternation that West Ham my nick him away from us in the final hours, Cassasola was looked at by Barca, Real and one of the Milan clubs, and when we signed Parker it was seen as showing them upstarts at Loftus Road what for...
No comment was made in the original post about players doing well, just us missing out on them as usual.
Nothing to add to some of these bat s____ rumors but I do like hearing what LVC said about the club. Love that guy, great attitude and we all know he's skilled. Hope he finds the pitch more this season
Quote from: cmg on May 15, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Whatever you might think of him as a player, Bryan comes across as one hell of a nice guy.
Far less talented players than him would have thrown the toys out of the pram long before now.
I know he is getting well paid, I know it is partly down to his weaknesses that teams haven't been falling over themselves to sign him and I know that this extension is probably just a device so that we (quite rightly) realize a bit of dough on, him but he has always conducted himself in a professional, dignified fashion. Good luck to him, whatever might lie ahead.
+1
He seems very proffessional in the way he is dealing with Fulham tbh.
I saw him at a restaurant in New Malden with his family a while back .
Lovely feller.
Fulham looking at Jay Tabb of Ipswich.
Andrea Pirlo just been seen in Fulham Rd Charity Shop.
Apparently bought an old whites top for £3-99...
Wallace has joined Wolves on 3 yr deal according to Wolves' official twitter account
Fulham plan swoop for Brentford's Player of the Year Toumani Diagouraga
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3091677/Fulham-plan-swoop-Brentford-s-Player-Year-Toumani-Diagouraga.html#ixzz3aoVOqXPG (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3091677/Fulham-plan-swoop-Brentford-s-Player-Year-Toumani-Diagouraga.html#ixzz3aoVOqXPG)
Just putting it out there, I don't like the Silly Season Transfer Thread, too much clutter, not quite sure why it's a thing but get on with it I suppose!
Toumani Diagouraga would be a good signing, something we missed this gone season; big, athletic, rangy and a pure defensive midfielder. Ideal partner for Lasse Vigen Christensen next season. He's not just a brick wall either, an impressive passing accuracy of 85% this season.
The cost would be interesting, he was bought for £500k by Brentford in 2010, he has a contract until 2017 and he's just been named their Supporters Player of the Year - could be more costly than he's worth, but the job he'd provide could be worth the extra few quid in expense.
Quote from: FPT on May 22, 2015, 12:54:52 AM
Just putting it out there, I don't like the Silly Season Transfer Thread, too much clutter, not quite sure why it's a thing but get on with it I suppose!
Haha, FPT. But just imagine what it would be like if all these pieces of junk got their own thread.
I rather like to see the most outrageous 'rumour' of the season. Thiago Alcantara was the best of the past few years, although, in many ways, the Dimitar Berbatov one was just as unlikely.
Look on it as a garbage dump, through which you can scavenge for suitable pearls.
Quote from: cmg on May 22, 2015, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: FPT on May 22, 2015, 12:54:52 AM
Just putting it out there, I don't like the Silly Season Transfer Thread, too much clutter, not quite sure why it's a thing but get on with it I suppose!
Haha, FPT. But just imagine what it would be like if all these pieces of junk got their own thread.
I rather like to see the most outrageous 'rumour' of the season. Thiago Alcantara was the best of the past few years, although, in many ways, the Dimitar Berbatov one was just as unlikely.
Look on it as a garbage dump, through which you can scavenge for suitable pearls.
It might just be me, but I think singular transfer rumour pages interest more people and would more interesting for discussing the rumour! No one has touched the Diagouraga story.
As for most outrageous... Mario Gomez under Roy Hodgson?
Fulham set to face battle to secure deal for Arsenal midfielder
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Fulham and Bournemouth are chasing Arsenal youngster Renny Smith, according to Eagles Element.
The Cherries, now promoted to the Premier League, are eyeing up the 18-year-old midfielder who is ready to move on from the Gunners.
He's already been on trial in Italy at Serie A side Capri and is a very versatile player, and is able to play at full-back if called upon.
The Whites and the Cherries will rival Premier League sides Crystal Palace and Aston Villa for his signature.
His agent has said that he likes the style of football in Serie A but plenty of other clubs are eying him up.
He told CalcioNews24: "Renny loves the Italian style of football, knows the history of Serie A and is fascinated by it.
"I think Italy is the ideal place for his style, as he is a really intelligent player. He has already represented Austria at Under-18 and Under-19 level, so he has experience and character.
"There are several clubs interested in him, but he has always had a passion for Italy, its football and its style. He is ready for this challenge.
"The other clubs tracking Renny are Fulham, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, Aston Villa and more."
Kit Symons' Fulham are looking at another rebuild of there squad this summer after a dire season back in the Sky Bet Championship.
The London club finished in 17th place, amassing 52 points whilst Bournemouth won the league, accumulating 90 points in the process.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-set-to-face-battle-to-secure-deal-for-arsenal-midfielder/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-set-to-face-battle-to-secure-deal-for-arsenal-midfielder/)
"He's already been on trial in Italy at Serie A side Capri and is a very versatile player, and is able to play at full-back if called upon."
........is this a joke? Since when have Capri been in Serie A?
Think they hav just gone up this season
Quote from: westcliff white on May 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Think they hav just gone up this season
Yes, they won Serie B. But it's CARPI not Capri. It's a small town in Northern Italy about 30 miles from Bologna, not the little island off Naples.
Quote from: cmg on May 22, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Think they hav just gone up this season
Yes, they won Serie B. But it's CARPI not Capri. It's a small town in Northern Italy about 30 miles from Bologna, not the little island off Naples.
yes a little town, like Sassuolo, near Modena. Interesting that both have managed to reach Seria A. However, even if Carpi was intended in the article, they have, as yet, no experience whatever of Serie A.
Quote from: gerrys on May 22, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: cmg on May 22, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Think they hav just gone up this season
Yes, they won Serie B. But it's CARPI not Capri. It's a small town in Northern Italy about 30 miles from Bologna, not the little island off Naples.
yes a little town, like Sassuolo, near Modena. Interesting that both have managed to reach Seria A. However, even if Carpi was intended in the article, they have, as yet, no experience whatever of Serie A.
At no point in the article does it say that, it states a fact in recognising them as a Serie A side, like you would Bournemouth now. The rest of the quotes suggests his 'passion' and interest for Serie A, rather than his or Carpi's experience of it.
1 May 2015 23:22:59
As reported in the press this evening Fulham are working hard to bring in Diagouraga from Brentford but also want Leon Britton, Tom Cairney & Matt Jarvis
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 23, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
1 May 2015 23:22:59
As reported in the press this evening Fulham are working hard to bring in Diagouraga from Brentford but also want Leon Britton, Tom Cairney & Matt Jarvis
That would be 4 very good signings.
Birmingham City, Fulham and Wigan Athletic keen on out-of-contract Ipswich Town winger
Championship duo Birmingham City and Fulham, plus relegated Wigan Athletic are keen on signing out-of-contract Ipswich Town winger Paul Anderson, we understand.
The 26-year-old will not be offered a new deal at Ipswich in the immediate future, although further discussions may be held later in the summer if that suits both player and club.
The former Nottingham Forest man, who scored in the first-leg of the Championship play-off semi-final draw with Norwich City, hit the net seven times in 71 appearances during a two-season spell with the Blues, but regularly found himself on the substitutes' bench during his time at Portman Road
Town fans wanting Anderson to stay have set up an online petition asking McCarthy to give the Melton Mowbray man a new contract, but we understand there will be no shortage of takers, should nothing materialise.
Birmingham and Fulham will be looking to strengthen their squads after finishing 10th and 17th respectively in the Championship, while Wigan, who released five players on Tuesday, will rebuild after falling into the third tier.
Anderson, who played his last game for Town in Saturday's play-off second-leg defeat at Norwich, is one of several players to have not yet been offered new terms by the Blues following their failure to cement a Play-Off Final date against Middlesbrough on May 25.
http://www.sudburymercury.co.uk/sport/birmingham_city_fulham_and_wigan_athletic_keen_on_out_of_contract_ipswich_town_winger_1_4082781 (http://www.sudburymercury.co.uk/sport/birmingham_city_fulham_and_wigan_athletic_keen_on_out_of_contract_ipswich_town_winger_1_4082781)
Burton and another coach to come in (curbs not a dead cert) ?
In theory our structure will be solid. Rigg focusing on ensuring football matters run smoothly, Ali Mac ensuring administrative side runs smoothly, Jennings ensuring youth side runs smoothly (he has had a bad year given the hype) and Burton focusing on the coaching quality of things.
In practice if Rigg refuses to make the big decisions such as removing Kit then it all falls apart.
With Kit in charge we will finish midtable at best.
Terry Burton would be a disappointment for me, get curbs and some other coaches but leave Burton well alone
QPR, Derby and Fulham target move for Swansea defender
QPR, Derby County and Fulham are reportedly targeting a move for versatile Swansea City defender Jazz Richards.
The 24-year-old only has a year left on his contract at the Liberty Stadium, and could look for a move away from the club after failing to hold down a regular first-term spot.
The Wales international, who can play either of the full-back roles or in midfield, spent the second half of the 2014-15 season on loan at Fulham, where he made 14 appearances, and they are keen to bring him to Craven Cottage permanently.
However, they will face competition from QPR and Derby, who are also looking to strengthen their squads for promotion pushes next term.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/)
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
QPR, Derby and Fulham target move for Swansea defender
QPR, Derby County and Fulham are reportedly targeting a move for versatile Swansea City defender Jazz Richards.
The 24-year-old only has a year left on his contract at the Liberty Stadium, and could look for a move away from the club after failing to hold down a regular first-term spot.
The Wales international, who can play either of the full-back roles or in midfield, spent the second half of the 2014-15 season on loan at Fulham, where he made 14 appearances, and they are keen to bring him to Craven Cottage permanently.
However, they will face competition from QPR and Derby, who are also looking to strengthen their squads for promotion pushes next term.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/)
No thanks we got our Jack...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 26, 2015, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
QPR, Derby and Fulham target move for Swansea defender
QPR, Derby County and Fulham are reportedly targeting a move for versatile Swansea City defender Jazz Richards.
The 24-year-old only has a year left on his contract at the Liberty Stadium, and could look for a move away from the club after failing to hold down a regular first-term spot.
The Wales international, who can play either of the full-back roles or in midfield, spent the second half of the 2014-15 season on loan at Fulham, where he made 14 appearances, and they are keen to bring him to Craven Cottage permanently.
However, they will face competition from QPR and Derby, who are also looking to strengthen their squads for promotion pushes next term.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/)
No thanks we got our Jack...
I don't rate Richards, but I don't think Grimmer is the answer either.
Think we will see a vast improvement in Jack next season, bit more
mature wiser and expierienced.
Thats if he is here, Hilda the Tea Lady reports Bolton interested. .
Fulham prepare summer bid for Sheffield United forward
Sky Bet Championship outfit Fulham are interested in a move for Sheffield United forward Jamie Murphy, according to FLW sources.
Murphy has only just signed a contract extension in January but could be set for a move down south, and FLW understands Fulham are keen to bring in the Sheffield United forward on a permanent basis.
Deployed as a winger or striker, Murphy creates goals and scores them too which is something that that Fulham have been struggling for all season, even with the signings of 42 goal pair Ross McCormack and Matt Smith.
As the club look to bring in players that have more knowledge of the Football League and are capable of securing a higher place in the league next season, Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
The 25-year-old Scottish national is said to be happy at Bramall Lane, but is still looking for the regular first team football that he came to England for.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-prepare-summer-bid-for-sheffield-united-forward/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-prepare-summer-bid-for-sheffield-united-forward/)
Hahahaha just from the Jamie Murphy one.
"Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
The 25-year-old Scottish national is said to be happy at Bramall Lane, but is still looking for the regular first team football that he came to England for."
Sheer poor journalism, no surprise considering it's from a blog monster.
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Fulham prepare summer bid for Sheffield United forward
Sky Bet Championship outfit Fulham are interested in a move for Sheffield United forward Jamie Murphy, according to FLW sources.
Murphy has only just signed a contract extension in January but could be set for a move down south, and FLW understands Fulham are keen to bring in the Sheffield United forward on a permanent basis.
Deployed as a winger or striker, Murphy creates goals and scores them too which is something that that Fulham have been struggling for all season, even with the signings of 42 goal pair Ross McCormack and Matt Smith.
As the club look to bring in players that have more knowledge of the Football League and are capable of securing a higher place in the league next season, Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
The 25-year-old Scottish national is said to be happy at Bramall Lane, but is still looking for the regular first team football that he came to England for.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-prepare-summer-bid-for-sheffield-united-forward/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-prepare-summer-bid-for-sheffield-united-forward/)
Do these people think about what they have written before they post it?
Welsh coach interested in signing more English talent shows interest in Scottish player Jamie Murphy who has an Irish surname.
Quote from: FPT on May 26, 2015, 07:55:07 PM
Hahahaha just from the Jamie Murphy one.
"Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
The 25-year-old Scottish national is said to be happy at Bramall Lane, but is still looking for the regular first team football that he came to England for."
Sheer poor journalism, no surprise considering it's from a blog monster.
Think he means players coming from the English league.
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
Also an interesting observation.
In our final match we subbed a German with a Bulgarian.
Other than that we had on view 7 English and one each from Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Now all these countries are in Europe, but I'm not sure how far they would contribute to most peoples' idea of 'European diversity'.
The other two? Well Colombia and Costa Rica are fairly exotic - but rather far from European.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 23, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
1 May 2015 23:22:59
As reported in the press this evening Fulham are working hard to bring in Diagouraga from Brentford but also want Leon Britton, Tom Cairney & Matt Jarvis
If this is even remotely true, I have new found reason to be excited.
QuoteDan Crawford @dancrawford85
Fulham are keen on midfielder Ben Pringle, who is leaving Rotherham on a free transfer: http://bit.ly/1BnWRud (http://bit.ly/1BnWRud) #ffc
Good, reliable source
Quote from: Deuce on May 27, 2015, 04:33:04 AM
QuoteDan Crawford @dancrawford85
Fulham are keen on midfielder Ben Pringle, who is leaving Rotherham on a free transfer: http://bit.ly/1BnWRud (http://bit.ly/1BnWRud) #ffc
Good, reliable source
'Keen' though, not a very strong word. Just suggests we like him. We're probably 'keen' on thousands of players! Hope we do sign him though, good creative player.
If true, and regardless of my 'He's an ugly sod' quote, Ben Pringle would be a really good coupe for Fulham. He's a busy type player that operates just behind the forwards, either side, putting in dangerous assists / crosses. He's also good at dropping back deep, picking up the ball, and making things happen. Oh, and he chips in with old goal here and there.
If this is true, then I reckon we're looking to offload Ruiz, as you wouldn't be able to play both in the same side. Pringle is much better equip to the Championship and poses more energy.
I rate pringle I hope it's true
Nottingham Forest and Fulham chasing Jamie O'Hara
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HITC Sport understands Nottingham Forest and Fulham are lining up moves for Blackpool midfielder Jamie O'Hara.
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Blackpool midfielder Jamie O'Hara is a target for Nottingham Forest and Fulham.
Blackpool face a major battle to keep hold of former Tottenham midfielder O'Hara following their relegation from the Championship.
O'Hara joined Blackpool last November after ending an unhappy spell at Wolves and he caught the eye at Bloomfield Road.
The 28-year-old was Blackpool's stand-out performer in a disappointing season for the side and he was named the club's Player of the Season by supporters.
O'Hara has been offered a new deal by Blackpool, but a number of clubs are waiting in the wings to land the former England Under-21 man on a free transfer.
SEE ALSO: Stoke and Brighton-linked midfielder cancels contract
Nottingham Forest are keen to bring O'Hara to the City Ground as he fits into their remit as they can only sign free agents due to their transfer embargo.
Fulham boss Kit Symons is thought to be an admirer of O'Hara and he believes the experienced midfielder could prove vital to his plans next season as he looks to mount a serious bid for promotion to the Premier League.
Where will Jamie O'Hara be playing next season?
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/27/nottingham-forest-and-fulham-chasing-jamie-ohara/page/1/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/27/nottingham-forest-and-fulham-chasing-jamie-ohara/page/1/)
Why this Queens Park Rangers defender should be a target for Fulham
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Newly contracted boss Chris Ramsey is set for a major squad reshuffle and Armand Traore has been told he can now find a new club, with the Championship looking like a viable option.
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
The former Arsenal youth prospect is still contracted to QPR for another season but could be let go on a free to save on wage costs.
Since joining from Arsenal in 2011, Traore has been a regular feature in the QPR side that has been both promoted and relegated twice and now it seems that Traore will call time on his Loftus Road career.
25-year-old Traore has made 17 appearances for the already relegated side. Predominantly a left back of winger and has the talent to push forward and challenge the opposition fullbacks.
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore, with his astronomical wage demands and the fact that Stafilidis is set to depart the club on loan.
Other clubs that could take a gamble on Traore are newly promoted Bournemouth and Watford, who will be looking for players with Premiership experience and will be able to afford his demands.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 27, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
Why this Queens Park Rangers defender should be a target for Fulham
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Newly contracted boss Chris Ramsey is set for a major squad reshuffle and Armand Traore has been told he can now find a new club, with the Championship looking like a viable option.
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
The former Arsenal youth prospect is still contracted to QPR for another season but could be let go on a free to save on wage costs.
Since joining from Arsenal in 2011, Traore has been a regular feature in the QPR side that has been both promoted and relegated twice and now it seems that Traore will call time on his Loftus Road career.
25-year-old Traore has made 17 appearances for the already relegated side. Predominantly a left back of winger and has the talent to push forward and challenge the opposition fullbacks.
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore, with his astronomical wage demands and the fact that Stafilidis is set to depart the club on loan.
Other clubs that could take a gamble on Traore are newly promoted Bournemouth and Watford, who will be looking for players with Premiership experience and will be able to afford his demands.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/)
traore is a shocking player. grimmer is already better
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore with his astronomical wage demands. fp.gif
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Quote from: f321ffc on May 27, 2015, 08:42:57 PM
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore with his astronomical wage demands. fp.gif
Who the hell wrote this sh!te 064.gif
that and he cant defend means hes nailed on to be starting for us
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 27, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
Why this Queens Park Rangers defender should be a target for Fulham
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Newly contracted boss Chris Ramsey is set for a major squad reshuffle and Armand Traore has been told he can now find a new club, with the Championship looking like a viable option.
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore, with his astronomical wage demands and the fact that Stafilidis is set to depart the club on loan.
Other clubs that could take a gamble on Traore are newly promoted Bournemouth and Watford, who will be looking for players with Premiership experience and will be able to afford his demands.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/)
Seriously, who writes cr*p like this.....
His demands?!?!?
He can demand what he likes, but he'd better not come knocking on our door! One of the bitters' reasons for failure...
Quote from: f321ffc on May 27, 2015, 08:42:57 PM
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore with his astronomical wage demands. fp.gif
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...and Staff going out on loan!
Oh, I don't know. Overpaid malcontent from Shepherds Bush, initials AT....What could possibly go wrong?
Tarrabt could do a job for someone in the championship if he lost his ego
Quote from: westcliff white on May 27, 2015, 09:44:47 PM
Tarrabt could do a job for someone in the championship if he lost his ego
....along with a couple of stone in weight. Both equally unlikely.
Quote from: cmg on May 27, 2015, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on May 27, 2015, 09:44:47 PM
Tarrabt could do a job for someone in the championship if he lost his ego
....along with a couple of stone in weight. Both equally unlikely.
Very true indeed, I did say if LOL
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
I would steer far from any qpr player even if we think they have talent. Nothing to do with qpr but players on their way down shouldn't be considered. I'd rather a star in a rising league one team than an under performing, ageing team. These players have nothing to play for. We want players who think after a good season will attract PL attention. Not PL past it's who want to step down. If our players are looking down how can we look up?
Traore is a complete and utter waster according to my QPR mates. Exactly the type of player we dont need
Tom Cairney the attacking midfielder from Blackburn is also said to be of interest.
Tom Cairney would be great.
Everton make official enquiry to sign French striker Moussa Dembele
EVERTON are looking to sign Fulham's French prodigy Moussa Dembele.
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Moussa Dembele
WANTED: Feyenoord, Genoa and Everton have all contacted Fulham about signing Moussa Dembele [GETTY]
According to Get French Football News, the Toffees have made contact with the West London club over a potential summer signing.
Dembele joined Fulham from Paris St-Germain in August 2012, quickly helping the club's Under-18 team win the Premier Academy League.
His contract is due to expire next season and without a new deal in place - Everton could complete a fairly significant transfer coup.
Feyenoord and Genoa are also in the running for the 18-year-old's services, but youngster may wish to continue his development in England.
Dembele made his first ever Premier League start for Fulham against Everton, a game they lost 3-1
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/444859/Everton-Moussa-Dembele-PSG-Toffees-Fulham-Transfer-News-Update-Stars-Gossip-Latest (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/444859/Everton-Moussa-Dembele-PSG-Toffees-Fulham-Transfer-News-Update-Stars-Gossip-Latest)
Nooooo, Just want us to keep the Mouss. Offers more than Woodrow imo
Agree about Cairney. Good player
Keep mousse and loan him to feyernoord next season, they have a good record of bringing youngsters on and he will get a lot of game time there. Also mate in wrk is a season ticket holder and he will give me an honest update
BBC this morning done deal to Everton apparently..Nonsense. .
Think this story surfaced about 8 months ago if im correct, and been
dug out again.
Maybe they short on Stories to tell...
Are we sure they don't mean Moussa Dembele I rather than MD II?
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Not overly keen on Richards, but the other three could be very decent signings for us. Good age, good experience and (at this level at least) just good.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
Can't see Dwight Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Can't see Dwight Gayle coming to Fulham, let alone dropping a division, especially when he was banging the goals in for Palace. They want 6 million for him but will likely go to a Bournemouth or Norwich type Club.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Where're these from?
All the players would be worth getting, but the figures quoted are absurdly low and Gayle won't be dropping a division.
Quote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
its a non starter, if kit couldnt control david, then imagine what adel would do to him
Quote from: fulhamben on May 30, 2015, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
its a non starter, if kit couldnt control david, then imagine what adel would do to him
I don't think we would even consider him as a target, but someone will. Qpr has too many of the "just happy to keep getting my salary every week" players. Some have mentioned SWP as a target and he has a bad attitude just like Adel. The only QPR playrers I would want would be Austin, Phillips and Fer.
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on May 30, 2015, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
its a non starter, if kit couldnt control david, then imagine what adel would do to him
I don't think we would even consider him as a target, but someone will. Qpr has too many of the "just happy to keep getting my salary every week" players. Some have mentioned SWP as a target and he has a bad attitude just like Adel. The only QPR playrers I would want would be Austin, Phillips and Fer.
Doesn't Fer have an alleged atitude problem?
I thought Wright Phillips was fine, just overlooked?
Reply To Above Rumour
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
BillyBob86
30 May 2015 09:44:32
It's very rare that your rumours are correct but I would love to see Lewis Dunk sign. At first I though Cairney wouldn't be good but at 24 I hope he signs for Fulham. Fulham need to get these deals done quickly though. There's better right backs than Jazz Richards.
Gayle will go to Wolves or Bournemouth.
RTFFC
30 May 2015 11:07:25
If true and your January rumours were poor bb so I'm a little doubtful but the first 2 are brilliant. Didn't rate Richards to be honesy. Felt he was clueless positionally. I imagine gayle would be a loan
adamjonesio
30 May 2015 18:44:59
Hi Adam
My source has changed at FFC, the new one joined in March and is very high up.
We are after some class players.
BillyBob86
31 May 2015 08:29:34
He's a family friend
BillyBob86
31 May 2015 11:58:36
Billy Bob I hope you're correct just not too optimistic. I'm good friends with dunks brother and he has confirmed fulhams interest
RTFFC
31 May 2015 21:27:51
I'm genuine mate, Dunk is wanted bad at Fulham , hope he joins, tell his bro we will have a whip around in the rocket for him lol.
Cairney to Fulham all but done just a medical to come.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 31, 2015, 10:15:07 PM
Reply To Above Rumour
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
BillyBob86
30 May 2015 09:44:32
It's very rare that your rumours are correct but I would love to see Lewis Dunk sign. At first I though Cairney wouldn't be good but at 24 I hope he signs for Fulham. Fulham need to get these deals done quickly though. There's better right backs than Jazz Richards.
Gayle will go to Wolves or Bournemouth.
RTFFC
30 May 2015 11:07:25
If true and your January rumours were poor bb so I'm a little doubtful but the first 2 are brilliant. Didn't rate Richards to be honesy. Felt he was clueless positionally. I imagine gayle would be a loan
adamjonesio
30 May 2015 18:44:59
Hi Adam
My source has changed at FFC, the new one joined in March and is very high up.
We are after some class players.
BillyBob86
31 May 2015 08:29:34
He's a family friend
BillyBob86
31 May 2015 11:58:36
Billy Bob I hope you're correct just not too optimistic. I'm good friends with dunks brother and he has confirmed fulhams interest
RTFFC
31 May 2015 21:27:51
I'm genuine mate, Dunk is wanted bad at Fulham , hope he joins, tell his bro we will have a whip around in the rocket for him lol.
Cairney to Fulham all but done just a medical to come.
I hate to be such a cynic, but - at least at the prices quoted - there ain't no way Cairney and Dunk are joining us..
I'd have those players with us in a shot (they were on my list last year) but Rigg will have to be the best negotiator in the world to get league rivals to sell prized assets for less than £5m a piece..
Blackburn are in trouble finances wise, so will sell if the offers come in.
They seem to do whatever they can to keep Rhodes and just keep his wages high while selling others.
3-5 for decent championship players is about right I'd say.
Quote from: MJG on May 31, 2015, 10:31:12 PM
Blackburn are in trouble finances wise, so will sell if the offers come in.
They seem to do whatever they can to keep Rhodes and just keep his wages high while selling others.
3-5 for decent championship players is about right I'd say.
Dunk, Cairney, Gayle and Richards would be 4 incredible signings. Very, very promising.
On the Fulham side of things....we may end up with none.
Richards would be an underwhelming signing - he's no upgrade on Grimmer. Dunk, Cairney and Gayle however would be very useful.
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
I really don't understand why Richards deserves this sort of reaction. I cannot see that it is much of an issue to get over-excited about either way, whether he comes or not.
The prospect seems as nothing compared to at least half of Magath's signings or suggestions on here that we should sign Barton and Wright-Phillips.
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Judge him when he's played with some protection infront of him. Refuse to write him off when we've played such an awful system that doesn't benefit full backs...or anyone else for that matter.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 01, 2015, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Judge him when he's played with some protection infront of him. Refuse to write him off when we've played such an awful system that doesn't benefit full backs...or anyone else for that matter.
Completely agree
Fulham bid for Wolves defender Richard Stearman
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HITC Sport understands that Fulham have made a bid for Wolverhampton Wanderers defender Richard Stearman.
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HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Fulham have launched a raid on Championship rivals Wolverhampton Wanderers for defender Richard Stearman.
Fulham boss Kit Symons is planning a major rebuilding job at Craven Cottage this summer after a disappointing season this term when they narrowly avoided relegation from the Championship.
Symons has made a new central defender one of his priorities and he sees Stearman's experience and versatility as a key addition to his squad.
Stearman has established himself as a key figure at Wolves after his future hung in the balance in January 2013 when he was sent out on loan to Ipswich Town.
SEE ALSO: Fulham eye move for ex-Leeds star
The 27-year-old battled his way back into the first-team under Kenny Jackett and helped the club win promotion back to the Championship last season before another stellar campaign this term as Wolves missed out on a place in the play-offs on goal difference.
Stearman is entering the final year of his contract at Molineux and Wolves would be reluctant to lose the former Leicester City man to a rival like Fulham as they plan to make another bid for promotion next season.
Should Wolves keep Richard Stearman?
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/01/fulham-bid-for-wolves-defender-richard-stearman/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/01/fulham-bid-for-wolves-defender-richard-stearman/)
Please no Stearman; we can do better than that.
Wolves fans seem to think that losing Stearman to us would be a loss.
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=93369 (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=93369)
Nearing the end of his contract, so would be available cheap... I think we could do far worse.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 01, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
Wolves fans seem to think that losing Stearman to us would be a loss.
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=93369 (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=93369)
Nearing the end of his contract, so would be available cheap... I think we could do far worse.
Should be said after reading it that the opinions vary on it being a loss.
Stearman is good for this level, can play CB and RB, hardly a world beater by any stretch of the imagination but would be excellent cover.
Wish that we were being linked more often to Husband.
Would take Stearman in a flash.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 01, 2015, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Judge him when he's played with some protection infront of him. Refuse to write him off when we've played such an awful system that doesn't benefit full backs...or anyone else for that matter.
Nope sorry, seen enough footballers in my time to know hes not for me.
Richard Stearman has been excellent for Wolves all season, thought he was impressive each time we played them this season and has always looked strong whenever I've seen them play. Very much the leader of the back four, and has struck a good partnership with Danny Batth who has a similar physique to Dan Burn.
He has promotion experience and two and half years experience at Premier League level. At 27, he's looking towards his peak playing years also. Would be a really smart move for us.
Would definitely take Stearman, him or Dunk to back up Burn.
Mulumbu's also been released from West Brom. Would take in a heart beat.
BERBATOV TO LEAVE MONACO
AS Monaco have confirmed that Dimitar Berbatov will leave when his contract expires at the end of the month.
The 34-year-old joined Monaco in 2014 and has been linked with a surprise move to Premier League new boys Bournemouth.
The French club have also confirmed they will not be taking up the option to sign the Fulham goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg, who has spent the last season at Monaco on loan.
Stekelenburg returns to Fulham with two years left on a four-year deal, having signed from Roma in summer 2013.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
STEKELENBURG ULTIMATUM TO FULHAM
"If you jokers insist on me coming back I'm bringing Dimitar with me."
http//www. ivjustmaditup.com
If Berbatov goes to Bournemouth they will regret it for ever more. Doubt he would want to play in front of 12K every other game any way.
Stekelberg can come back but only as a No. 2 in place of PJ´s.
Quote from: grandad on June 01, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
If Berbatov goes to Bournemouth they will regret it for ever more. Doubt he would want to play in front of 12K every other game any way.
Stekelberg can come back but only as a No. 2 in place of PJ´s.
Monaco's average attendance this past season is under 8000....
And Stekelenburg's wages are way too high for a number two, at least Gabor Kiraly would be fit for coming on also.
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
One problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
One problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
Haha I just don't rate Bettinelli as high as most people here do. Think he gets better reviews as he's young and English.
+ think Stearman would be a very good signing as well for not much money.
If the goal is to be promoted, then we should begin acting as if we will be. Nobody (not players, not management, not supporters) will buy in if we take a wait and see approach with necessary projects like the new stand.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
One problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
Haha I just don't rate Bettinelli as high as most people here do. Think he gets better reviews as he's young and English.
+ think Stearman would be a very good signing as well for not much money.
Gareth Southgate doesn't rate him very highly either, that's why he's in the England U21's squad!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on June 01, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
One problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
Haha I just don't rate Bettinelli as high as most people here do. Think he gets better reviews as he's young and English.
+ think Stearman would be a very good signing as well for not much money.
Gareth Southgate doesn't rate him very highly either, that's why he's in the England U21's squad!
I'm not trying to start an argument, just my opinion on him.
I'm not a fan of Marcus (yet) either. Think he's been brought into the side a bit to early (not his fault) and lacks the experience we need in that position. Yes, there's the argument that he can only get better, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but you need a keeper who takes the pressure off your back 4, and Marcus isn't at that level yet. Anything outside the six yard box and he won't claim it. Great prospect, just 1-2 seasons to early, but will play him next season, bet your bottom dollar.
I too am a great fan of Marcus and very proud he has been selected for our country.
To attempt an ascent of the North face of a top 6 position we do however require a big old gnarled keeper with a commanding presence and a booming voice.
This time around we need many more matches men v men.
:hook:Berbatov has been released by Monaco. 086.gif
Quote from: andersons11 on June 02, 2015, 01:19:03 AM
:hook:Berbatov has been released by Monaco. 086.gif
I put Berbatov in the same class as Dragba. Both will do great if you don't need them to do any actual work, can hang around the box most of the time and have the ball put only at their feet. Then skies the limit :doh:
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 01, 2015, 08:24:19 PM
I too am a great fan of Marcus and very proud he has been selected for our country.
To attempt an ascent of the North face of a top 6 position we do however require a big old gnarled keeper with a commanding presence and a booming voice.
This time around we need many more matches men v men.
I am also a great fan of Marcus, and I am also proud that he has been selected to play for and represent my country England.
02 Jun 2015 05:59:14
Philip Senderos on his way back to Fulham
from Villa
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 02, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
02 Jun 2015 05:59:14
Philip Senderos on his way back to Fulham
from Villa
I read this today: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-full-back-set-top-9369499 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-full-back-set-top-9369499) and wondered whether we are interested in Lowton to be our RB.
"...Lowton may be on the move with a number of Championship clubs showing an interest..."
Not sure how I feel about the chance of Senderos coming back.
Southampton closing in on signing of former Roma goalkeeper
Southampton are reportedly closing in on the signing of former Roma and Fulham goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg.
The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer following his release from Monaco this week, which has alerted Saints boss Ronald Koeman, who knows the stopper from his spell at Ajax.
Number one keeper Fraser Forster isn't expected back until October at the earliest because of injury, and with Kelvin Davis considered too old and Paulo Gazzaniga too inexperienced, the Dutchman wants a new man between the posts.
Stekelenburg has 54 caps for the Netherlands, and could be one of two new goalkeeper arrivals at St Mary's this summer.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-closing-in-on-signing-of-former-roma-goalkeeper/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-closing-in-on-signing-of-former-roma-goalkeeper/)
Not sure how accurate/trustworthy that is saying he is available on a free transfer.
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 02, 2015, 11:57:43 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 02, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
02 Jun 2015 05:59:14
Philip Senderos on his way back to Fulham
from Villa
I read this today: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-full-back-set-top-9369499 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-full-back-set-top-9369499) and wondered whether we are interested in Lowton to be our RB.
"...Lowton may be on the move with a number of Championship clubs showing an interest..."
Not sure how I feel about the chance of Senderos coming back.
horrendous. Our defense is calamitous and comical at times, bringing back Senderos would make things worse.
Genoa pursuing Fulham youngster
Genoa have taken an interest to Fulham's teenage striker Moussa Dembele, as they aim to improve their squad for next season.
The 18-year-old French youth international has shown his talent in the sporadic appearances he has made for the Cottagers since joining from the Paris Saint-Germain youth system in 2012.
Sky Sport Italia report that Genoa are keen on snaring Dembele to the Marassi in the summer, and will attempt to make contact with Fulham in the coming weeks.
The Grifone have also set their sights on improving their rearguard, and will try again for AC Milan's Cristian Zapata after an unsuccessful attempt in January.
Dembele didn't manage to score in 11 Championship games this season, but hit a brace in his only League Cup match.
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2015/06/genoa-pursuing-fulham-youngster/ (http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2015/06/genoa-pursuing-fulham-youngster/)
With regards that Stekelenburg article, yes he's been linked with them but look at the wording :
'former...Fulham keeper'
'The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer following his release from Monaco this week'
Really!?
What dreadful reporting - he's not available on a free, and he most certainly was not 'released' by Monaco as he wasn't their player.
Dear oh dear...
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 03, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Southampton closing in on signing of former Roma goalkeeper
Southampton are reportedly closing in on the signing of former Roma and Fulham goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg.
The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer following his release from Monaco this week, which has alerted Saints boss Ronald Koeman, who knows the stopper from his spell at Ajax.
Number one keeper Fraser Forster isn't expected back until October at the earliest because of injury, and with Kelvin Davis considered too old and Paulo Gazzaniga too inexperienced, the Dutchman wants a new man between the posts.
Stekelenburg has 54 caps for the Netherlands, and could be one of two new goalkeeper arrivals at St Mary's this summer.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-closing-in-on-signing-of-former-roma-goalkeeper/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-closing-in-on-signing-of-former-roma-goalkeeper/)
Not sure how accurate/trustworthy that is saying he is available on a free transfer.
Right now he has 2 years left on his deal so he is not a former Fulham keeper
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 03, 2015, 11:54:57 AM
With regards that Stekelenburg article, yes he's been linked with them but look at the wording :
'former...Fulham keeper'
'The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer following his release from Monaco this week'
Really!?
What dreadful reporting - he's not available on a free, and he most certainly was not 'released' by Monaco as he wasn't their player.
Dear oh dear...
I thought exactly the same things, but decided to upload it as this is the "silly thread". Sometimes, you do wonder who writes these things.
Fulham bid for Brighton star Lewis Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Fulham have made a bid for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk.
Fulham boss Kit Symons has made a new central defender one of his top targets this summer and has already made a bid for Wolverhampton Wanderers stopper Richard Stearman.
Symons is also an admirer of Dunk and is understood to have tabled a £2 million offer for the 23-year-old as he looks to bring him to Craven Cottage.
Derby County have also been credited with an interest, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by tabling a firm offer for the centre-half.
Brighton are keen to keep hold of one of their prize assets, with Dunk only signing a new four-year deal last summer.
Dunk, who has come through the ranks at Brighton, is regarded as one of the best young defenders outside the Premier League after catching the eye at the Amex Stadium.
Dunk has made more than 100 appearances for the Seagulls and was a virtual ever-present last term making 44 appearances and scoring seven goals.
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/03/fulham-bid-for-brighton-star-lewis-dunk/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/03/fulham-bid-for-brighton-star-lewis-dunk/)
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 03, 2015, 12:14:51 PM
Fulham bid for Brighton star Lewis Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Fulham have made a bid for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk.
Fulham boss Kit Symons has made a new central defender one of his top targets this summer and has already made a bid for Wolverhampton Wanderers stopper Richard Stearman.
Symons is also an admirer of Dunk and is understood to have tabled a £2 million offer for the 23-year-old as he looks to bring him to Craven Cottage.
Derby County have also been credited with an interest, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by tabling a firm offer for the centre-half.
Brighton are keen to keep hold of one of their prize assets, with Dunk only signing a new four-year deal last summer.
Dunk, who has come through the ranks at Brighton, is regarded as one of the best young defenders outside the Premier League after catching the eye at the Amex Stadium.
Dunk has made more than 100 appearances for the Seagulls and was a virtual ever-present last term making 44 appearances and scoring seven goals.
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/03/fulham-bid-for-brighton-star-lewis-dunk/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/03/fulham-bid-for-brighton-star-lewis-dunk/)
Singed a 4 year deal last summer, 2 million quid bid tabled? Dream on, you ain't going to prize an asset away from a Club with that type of bid.
Just pay 4m for Dunk and get him in. Quality CB at this level and room to grow in a position we are desperate for. No brainer.
£2m for Lewis Dunk is a fair price, they sold Will Buckley for £2.5m and Liam Bridcutt for around £3.5m so we're not far off and he's only played two full seasons since making his debut at 18. Brighton don't have strong pulling power, selling or releasing many of their key players over the last few years so we'll be in a good position. The contract extension just means that time, and subsequently negotiations are on their side. Anywhere in between £2m-£3m would be an good deal for both sides really, chuck in a few add-ons to sweeten a deal and Bob's your uncle.
I am interested in how we attack centre back in this window, we currently have four centre backs and three are probably not required at this point. Nikolay Bodurov looked impressive but was so frequently at fault, his communication looks below standard and he's just not very smart. Fernando Amorebieta is much maligned, I think he's got a place, just perhaps not here now. Shaun Hutchinson is most intriguing for me, he's certainly got potential to work upon, but he's just lacking a bit of quality needed to be at the other end of the table, a good 3rd or 4th choice at best at the moment. Out of our current group, I think Dan Burn's the best pure defender, but obviously lacks the speed due to his physique. Anybody built like him isn't going to be blistering and is always going to struggle against the smaller, quicker and more tricky customers (which makes me fear a Dunk-Burn partnership).
I don't really care how much we get for Maarten Stekelenburg, it's just important we rid ourselves of his wages and his glass torso. I'd be more than happy with £500k-£1m really.
As usual, lets just see what happens.
Wolves reject Fulham's Richard Stearman bid
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Wolverhampton Wanderers have rejected a bid from Championship rivals Fulham for defender Richard Stearman.
As revealed by HITC Sport earlier this week, Fulham launched a £1.5million bid for Stearman as Kit Symons looks to bolster his defensive options for next season.
However, it is understood that Wolves have dismissed the offer out of hand and hope to keep Stearman at Molineux.
Stearman has established himself as a key figure in Kenny Jackett's side in the last two seasons after returning from a loan spell at Ipswich Town in 2013 when he looked to be on his way out at Wolves.
The 27-year-old, who was named Wolves' Player of the Season, is in the final year of his contract and Wolves are expected to offer him a new deal.
If Stearman fails to sign a new contract, Wolves could decide to cash-in on him rather than risk letting him leave on a free next summer.
Fulham are continuing to monitor Stearman's situation and it remains to be seen if they will come back with an improved second bid for the former Leicester City man.
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/04/wolves-reject-fulhams-stearman-bid/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/04/wolves-reject-fulhams-stearman-bid/)
£1.5m for Stearman? Shouldn't a starting bid come at £3m for a CB/player of the year? That sounds insulting.
He only has a year on his contract do the value will be lower
Brighton are trying to sign highly rated 21 year old Iranian left winger Alireza Jahanbakhsh from NEC for £1.5M after he won the Dutch second divisions player of the season. Scoring 17 from 55 appearances.
At that price and age, I wonder if anyone agrees we could do with a proper left sided winger? If he is anything like Ashkan I would have him in a heartbeat.
Exclusive: Millwall keeper David Forde holds Fulham talks
Friday, 05 June 2015
By Richard Cawley
DAVID Forde has held talks with Fulham as he prepares for a Millwall exit this summer.
The 35-year-old goalkeeper is able to leave the Lions for free after their relegation to League One.
See today's South London Press for the full story.
http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/Sport.cfm?id=36399 (http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/Sport.cfm?id=36399)
Here is the City is the worst source out there. I would trust Goal.Com before them...and that is saying something.
http://zipzp.eu/news.php?u=http://dlvr.it/B6WHyR (http://zipzp.eu/news.php?u=http://dlvr.it/B6WHyR)
Fulham, meanwhile, are being linked with moves for Millwall goalkeeper David Forde and Rotherham midfielder Ben Pringle.
The South London Press say Forde, who is available on a free transfer following the Lions' relegation, has held talks with the Whites.
And the Sevenoaks Chronicle believes Fulham, Leeds, Bolton and Ipswich will be competition for Charlton in their attempts to sign Pringle.
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
? 35 year old 3 rd division keeper a replacement for betts, i dont see it.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
? 35 year old 3 rd division keeper a replacement for betts, i dont see it.
Also ahead of Shay Given as Ireland's starting GK
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
? 35 year old 3 rd division keeper a replacement for betts, i dont see it.
Also ahead of Shay Given as Ireland's starting GK
given is nearly 40 so thats nothing to brag about
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
maybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
maybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
Second choice goalkeeper on a free. I don't get why people are questioning this and are up in arms about it. He might make an appearance or two if he signs.
Quote from: Fulhamerica23 on June 05, 2015, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
maybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
Second choice goalkeeper on a free. I don't get why people are questioning this and are up in arms about it. He might make an appearance or two if he signs.
you need to back a page, it was suggested he might be a replacement for betts. thats the debate
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
maybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
And Betts didn't let in a lot did he?
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: Fulhamerica23 on June 05, 2015, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
maybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
Second choice goalkeeper on a free. I don't get why people are questioning this and are up in arms about it. He might make an appearance or two if he signs.
you need to back a page, it was suggested he might be a replacement for betts. thats the debate
He said seemed "odd" unless Betts was off. Why is it odd if Betts is staying was my point. I get your point as to not wanting him in as a 1st choice, I think that is a consensus opinion.
All I've got to say about David Forde signing on with Fulham is that, if I was the club I sure as hell would not let that be my first signing.
David Forde will be nothing more than a backup goalkeeper, so don't know why people are up in arms about this. 1) He's definitely an upgrade to Kiraly, he's obviously being released. 2) Has experience of the division to pass on and mentor Bets. 3) Is good coaching material 4). Free. Even if Bets goes (he won't) Forde will still be 2nd choice. How people can talk about Jorenen filling in at No.2 is completely codswallop, he's just recovered from a serious knee injury and needs to go out on loan.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 05, 2015, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
maybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
And Betts didn't let in a lot did he?
he did, but betts will get better whilst forde will decline.
I wasn't suggesting I'd rather Forde to Betts just find it odd Forde would rather sit on the bench here and lose his International place than play weekly at Millwall
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 08:34:40 PM
I wasn't suggesting I'd rather Forde to Betts just find it odd Forde would rather sit on the bench here and lose his International place than play weekly at Millwall
havent milwall released him though? so thats possibly not an option for him
Thought Forde was excellent against us. A proven goalkeeper who knows how to organise a defence. Sign him up especially if he is on a free
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 08:34:40 PM
I wasn't suggesting I'd rather Forde to Betts just find it odd Forde would rather sit on the bench here and lose his International place than play weekly at Millwall
Forde is now 35, we may be offering him a type of coaching role as well. Do we actually have a goal keeping coach at present? Don't think we do..
Fulham considering bid for Rotherham star
Fulham are considering a bid for Rotherham's Ben Pringle.
The left midfielder is out of contract at the end of this month and after rejecting a new deal with the Millers, it looks highly likely that he will be at a new club next season.
Various teams have been linked with a move so far and according to Get West London, Fulham are the latest team to weigh-up a bid for Pringle.
Fulham struggled on the left last season and believe Ben Pringle could be the man to fix the problem and bomb up and down the left channel for the Cottagers next term.
Leeds, Bolton, Ipswich and newly-promoted Preston have also been linked with the 26-year old and it appears that there could be a huge battle this summer between these teams to see who can secure a deal for the Englishman first.
http://the72.co.uk/28768/fulham-considering-bid-for-rotherham-star/ (http://the72.co.uk/28768/fulham-considering-bid-for-rotherham-star/)
Pleeaaasssee Ben Pringle. Exactly the type of player we need (McLean would also be perfect) and looked incredible against us last season, although admittedly that isn't saying much :P
Said before that Pringle would be an absolute coupe for Fulham, and would solve our long term midfield problems. He operates just behind the forwards, but drops back to collect balls and make things happen. Shoots from outside the box and delivers a dangerous dead ball.
Pringle has a crisp pass on him.
05 Jun 2015 20:37:23
Pringle has signed for Fulham, will be announced over the weekend. Rejected Ipswich, Bolton & Leeds to join the whites .
BillyBob86
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2015, 12:36:42 AM
05 Jun 2015 20:37:23
Pringle has signed for Fulham, will be announced over the weekend. Rejected Ipswich, Bolton & Leeds to join the whites .
BillyBob86
whos billy bob?
Ah, Pringle would be great!
An absolute class above the rest of his team-mates whenever I've seen Rotherham this season.
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
Pringle has a crisp pass on him.
But could get crunched in tackles.
Pringle would be brilliant. Hope this turns out be to a worthwhile and true rumor!
Pringle is tasty.
Cracking
Quote from: fulhamben on June 06, 2015, 12:38:52 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2015, 12:36:42 AM
05 Jun 2015 20:37:23
Pringle has signed for Fulham, will be announced over the weekend. Rejected Ipswich, Bolton & Leeds to join the whites .
BillyBob86
whos billy bob?
Some guy on the Transfer Rumours pages.
I think he had Messi signing for us once, claims he has family in
the know at Fulham....
Historically BillyBob86 has been the absolute worst for Fulham rumours; lots of plausible suggestions, but none of them ever came to fruition.
He claims he "has a new source", so lets see if his predictions get any better. But I'd wait until some more credible sources start talking about Pringle before getting excited..
Billy Bob is usually wrong, but hopefully his "new better" is better than his last
QuoteGet French Football @GFN_France
EXCLUSIVE: St Étienne & Napoli enquire about the availability of Frenchman & Fulham striker Moussa Dembélé http://goo.gl/RLWclV (http://goo.gl/RLWclV)
His name is Billy Bob. Do you really expect someone with that name to be reliable? Lol
Defender Tom Richards has joined Aldershot on a free from Fulham
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 06, 2015, 12:45:44 PM
His name is Billy Bob. Do you really expect someone with that name to be reliable? Lol
Granted, he has got a few wrong, but he has also got a couple spot on, even before they hit the Media. Mitroglou and McCormack springs to mind.
Sepp Blatter and Jack Warner have both signed on frees for San Quentin FC. To be announced in the coming months.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 06, 2015, 01:18:37 PM
Sepp Blatter and Jack Warner have both signed on frees for San Quentin FC. To be announced in the coming months.
Sarcasm definitely isn't your best strengths, now that's a dead cert. Think you're up there with Woolly Mammoth.
Mark Hill retweeted
TFS Rotherham United @TFS_Rotherham 13h13 hours ago
BREAKING (Kinda): Fulham have completed the signing of Ben Pringle and the deal will be announced in the next 2... http://dlvr.it/B7BYGq (http://dlvr.it/B7BYGq)
Mark Hill retweeted
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham 5h5 hours ago
BREAKING (Kinda): Fulham have completed the signing of Ben Pringle and the deal will be announced in the next 2... http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ (http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 07, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
Mark Hill retweeted
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham 5h5 hours ago
BREAKING (Kinda): Fulham have completed the signing of Ben Pringle and the deal will be announced in the next 2... http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ (http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ)
A positive first signing...wasn't McCormack our first last time though...oops!
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 07, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 07, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
Mark Hill retweeted
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham 5h5 hours ago
BREAKING (Kinda): Fulham have completed the signing of Ben Pringle and the deal will be announced in the next 2... http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ (http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ)
A positive first signing...wasn't McCormack our first last time though...oops!
Only positive if we have someone to play on the other wing
Quote from: Nero on June 07, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 07, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 07, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
Mark Hill retweeted
TFS Fulham @TFS_Fulham 5h5 hours ago
BREAKING (Kinda): Fulham have completed the signing of Ben Pringle and the deal will be announced in the next 2... http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ (http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ)
A positive first signing...wasn't McCormack our first last time though...oops!
Only positive if we have someone to play on the other wing
Can Pringles not play left back?! Someone better tell Kit!
Fulham show an interest in ex QPR player Di Carmine
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SKY Italia journalist Gianluca Di Marzio, yesterday linked Fulham with a move for Lega Pro (Italian 3rd division) striker Samuel Di Carmine. Carmine's contract runs out in June so he'll be available on a free transfer & Empoli had looked close to securing the striker until their coach left, with talks stopping immediately.
Di Carmine played for QPR in the 08/09 season in the Championship scoring 3 goals across all competitions. A list of the 26 year old strikers stats can be seen below (courtesy of Transfermarkt.com):-
(http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/uploads/337451566010714.jpg)
In addition to Fulham, Livorno and QPR have also expressed an interest in signing Di Carmine.
http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/fulham-show-interest-in-di-carmine-13-604.html#sthash.4q87r6b7.dpuf (http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/fulham-show-interest-in-di-carmine-13-604.html#sthash.4q87r6b7.dpuf)
12 goals in 9 years, sounds like a real steal
Quote from: fulhamben on June 08, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
12 goals in 9 years, sounds like a real steal
Well, he scored 14 last year alone according to that image so that's not quite right...
Surely we have to be aiming higher then a third division Italian striker. The lower Italian leagues are know more for their corruption then talent.
I very much hope this is lazy reporting otherwise my new found optimism may start to dwindle!
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 08, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 08, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
12 goals in 9 years, sounds a real steal
Well, he scored 14 last year alone according to that image so that's not quite right...
fair enough, I just looked at wiki
Disagree, Look at clubs who have signed strikers from the Italian second division. Antenucci got 10 goals for Leeds this season, I believe it is a good thing we are looking at foreign talent as it tends to be much cheaper than the English equivalent
Leeds got Becchio from the Spanish second division, Brighton got Ulloa from the Spanish second division. We should be looking at leagues like this and scouting far and wide for potential bargains
Quote from: @jolslover on June 08, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
Disagree, Look at clubs who have signed strikers from the Italian second division. Antenucci got 10 goals for Leeds this season, I believe it is a good thing we are looking at foreign talent as it tends to be much cheaper than the English equivalent
Leeds got Becchio from the Spanish second division, Brighton got Ulloa from the Spanish second division. We should be looking at leagues like this and scouting far and wide for potential bargains
True enough.........However....
This guy seems to have had an impressive enough season - but this is in Serie C, the third level (14 goals @ a goal per 210 minutes)
He was in Serie B for the previous three seasons. His numbers:
6 goals @ 400min/goal
6 goals @ 477min/goal
8 goals @ 351min/goal
Presumably there is more to his game than just goals. His assist numbers are pretty good.
What all this means I have no idea. But some point of reference might be made from Trotta's Serie B numbers this season which were 5 goals (+2 in the play offs) @ 234min/goal. He is four years younger.
Brighton reject Fulham bid for Lewis Dunk
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HITC Sport understands Brighton and Hove Albion have rejected Fulham's bid for defender Lewis Dunk.
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Fulham have seen a bid for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk turned down.
As revealed by HITC Sport last week, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the Championship after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are the first to firm up their interest with a bid.
Fulham are understood to have bid £2.5 million for Dunk, but Brighton have rejected the offer as they are hoping to keep their prize asset.
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
Brighton boss Chris Hughton is reluctant to lose Dunk as he aims to try and build his side around the defender who only signed a new four-year deal last summer.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to Craven Cottage.
Where will Lewis Dunk be playing next season?
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/08/brighton-reject-fulham-bid-for-lewis-dunk/? (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/08/brighton-reject-fulham-bid-for-lewis-dunk/?)
If they'll reject £2.5m, I don't think there's *much* more we can do. Probably £3.5m max for me. If I'm honest with you, I'd be half tempted to offer them Ryan Tunnicliffe in a part exchange, but that's just me.
Quote from: FPT on June 08, 2015, 04:13:24 PM
If they'll reject £2.5m, I don't think there's *much* more we can do. Probably £3.5m max for me. If I'm honest with you, I'd be half tempted to offer them Ryan Tunnicliffe in a part exchange, but that's just me.
We were never going to get one of their prize assets for 2.5 million, regardless of how hard up they are. Said a while ago, although we're looking to be sensible, there's also looking stupid. The 1 point something million we bid for Stearman of Wolves was embarrassing and quite rightly laughed off.
Had to laugh on the Transfer Rumours Site, some fella put up
Carlton Cole to Fulham in exchange for Ross...Hillarious
Its been taken down, some must dream them up at night.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 08, 2015, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 08, 2015, 04:13:24 PM
If they'll reject £2.5m, I don't think there's *much* more we can do. Probably £3.5m max for me. If I'm honest with you, I'd be half tempted to offer them Ryan Tunnicliffe in a part exchange, but that's just me.
We were never going to get one of their prize assets for 2.5 million, regardless of how hard up they are. Said a while ago, although we're looking to be sensible, there's also looking stupid. The 1 point something million we bid for Stearman of Wolves was embarrassing and quite rightly laughed off.
I actually agree with this. Dunk is one of the best young prospects in the division and a vital player for Brighton; he also has a contract running until 2018. He's worth 5-6m easy - 2.5m is, quite frankly, a derisory offer and would be akin to us selling LVC for a similar price. As you say, the Stearman bid was equally stupid. He's a key asset in the prime of his career and will cost at least double our 'supposed' offer.
Of course we want to be sensible in the transfer market but we must stop penny-pinching and get real. It reminds me of the time we refused to pay 3m for Bakary Sako a few seasons back...
The 3 million was the upfront fee which we agreed as i understood it, they wanted the same again in add ons. Dunk we may be undervaluing, but Stearman only has a year on his contract so not sure he is worth much more than we have offered
Transfer stuff is always fun. 1.5m for another club's young, prized asset is "fair," but many on here wouldn't take 10m for Pat Roberts.
Also funny ( not so much really ) how much of this uncorroburated "reporting" gets used to bash the club. Just because a monetary figure is thrown in doesn't make it any more reliable.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that it's perhaps derisory, but you don't go in and meet their evaluation, you've got to test the waters and see what's going on. From a Fulham perspective, we have maybe £10m unanswered to play with in this transfer window and manage through Financial Fair Play, and with no guarantee that we'll rid ourselves of Stekelenburg, Ruiz and Mitroglou, you don't want to spend £4m on a centre back when we already have four, it would be illogical spending. Make room and create a negotiation cushion. As it stands, I'd go £3.5m for Lewis Dunk baring in mind they sold Liam Bridcutt for £3.5m and Will Buckley for £2.5m and that we've not really got much to play with as it stands. I'd be more than happy with Lewis Dunk as a Fulham player, but I want him here on our terms and not theirs.
Charlie Austin was brought by QPR for a rumoured £4m-£5m and he'd bagged a goal every other game for Burnley. Lewis Grabban was signed by Norwich after a 22 goal season for £3m. Our Ross McCormack deal is an initial £5m. Cardiff signed Adam Le Fondre for £2.5m and Sean Morrison for £4m from Reading. The top Championship players generally don't, and shouldn't cost more than £5m.
Here here, well said.
Unless Ross might go for little more than that...
(I am joking before you ask)
Quote from: @jolslover on June 08, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
Disagree, Look at clubs who have signed strikers from the Italian second division. Antenucci got 10 goals for Leeds this season, I believe it is a good thing we are looking at foreign talent as it tends to be much cheaper than the English equivalent
Leeds got Becchio from the Spanish second division, Brighton got Ulloa from the Spanish second division. We should be looking at leagues like this and scouting far and wide for potential bargains
in that case go for Simoneandrea Ganz top scorer for Como, on loan from A.C., who are 2 nil up after the first leg in the play-off for promotion to Serie B.........by the way his dad is Maurizio Ganz who scored a sackfull of goals for Udinese, Inter and A.C.
Ganz is owned by AC Milan not como he is on loan there
Quote from: westcliff white on June 08, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
Ganz is owned by AC Milan not como he is on loan there
that is actually what I said.....
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 08, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
Ganz is owned by AC Milan not como he is on loan there
that is actually what I said.....
apologies i meant ownly co-owned by AC, Italy have these strange co ownership rules.
But I do agree he is one we should loko at if we widh to try and get a good deal from Italy, even a years loan may not be a bad option, I cant see him swaping Serie A or B for the Championship though
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 08, 2015, 04:22:52 PM
Had to laugh on the Transfer Rumours Site, some fella put up
Carlton Cole to Fulham in exchange for Ross...Hillarious
Its been taken down, some must dream them up at night.
About as ridiculous as taking Frank Large and a bit of cash in exchange for Alan Clarke.
We have bid 1.2m for Tom Lees of Sheff Wed apparently and it has been turned down.
Do we think we are trying to bring in two CBs or just spraying the bids around to test the water?
apologies i meant ownly co-owned by AC, Italy have these strange co ownership rules.
But I do agree he is one we should loko at if we widh to try and get a good deal from Italy, even a years loan may not be a bad option, I cant see him swaping Serie A or B for the Championship though
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went to see him play in the final last Sunday, worked really hard and it was stinking hot........saw his dad outside and he was wearing a Como shirt for the occasion. ..
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 09, 2015, 06:47:58 AM
We have bid 1.2m for Tom Lees of Sheff Wed apparently and it has been turned down.
Do we think we are trying to bring in two CBs or just spraying the bids around to test the water?
Both. Transfer wise, quality defenders are what we need. We have about 6 strikers. Our bids are insulting, so far as well. If we want to bring those players we'll pay up.
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Agree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
Quote from: westcliff white on June 09, 2015, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Agree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
Having been an estate agent for a time I was in that position many times...."I'll say it quietly but that couple talking to my colleague are going to make a bid on the house you like...so how much do you want to bid?"
All above board of course.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 09, 2015, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Agree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
Completely off track, but the worst thing for an estate agent is they put a property on and the first viewer offers asking price. Thats an absolute disaster in so many ways.
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 09, 2015, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Agree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
Having been an estate agent for a time I was in that position many times...."I'll say it quietly but that couple talking to my colleague are going to make a bid on the house you like...so how much do you want to bid?"
All above board of course.
i would tend to agree, however the guy making the offer was there with his wife and kids and when the agent got off the phone he and his wife were very downhearted, which is why i think they actually didnt know, that and then they had the finance guy come over and try to see if they could stretch further.
my 10 minute deadline was a gamble as they could have come back in (I considered 5 minutes) and I also said I had another property with another agent that was just behind in our pecking order of houses. I also didnt tell them when I was going in so just popped in when I fancied it.
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PM
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
LOL never mind things change hehe
West Ham have named former defender Slaven Bilic as their new manager.
They are welcome as he would not have been my choice for such a "big " club. Not much of a pedigree. They would have done better to stick with Big Sam.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PM
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Sorry...
Well we missed out on Darren Bent
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PM
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Sorry...
Well we missed out on Darren bent.
That's Better lol 082.gif
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PM
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Sorry...
Well we missed out on Darren Bent
I think he will do well at Derby, they will play a passing game and get the ball in front of him just how he likes it. Martin on the other hand may not suit Clements style if the teams he has coached for have influenced him.
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Depends how much you want or need that 'house'
We are in desperate need for quality centre backs, as give or take one or two (only) decent games each, Hutchinson, Burn and Bodurov are just not up to it.
More often than not we lose the player by fannying around, and should have a minimum £7-8 million budget for two decent quality centre backs, as they are the foundation of a successful season (as opposed to the collapsible mess we have at the moment)
Quote from: Chesh on June 09, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Depends how much you want or need that 'house'
We are in desperate need for quality centre backs, as give or take one or two (only) decent games each, Hutchinson, Burn and Bodurov are just not up to it.
More often than not we lose the player by fannying around, and should have a minimum £7-8 million budget for two decent quality centre backs, as they are the foundation of a successful season (as opposed to the collapsible mess we have at the moment)
I can't help but think you are being massively unrealistic for Championship budgets, championship players and indeed for a period of time so early in the window.
These rumours are very promising to be fair - Lees, Dunk, Stearman... are exactly the kind of players we should be looking at. Hopefully we up our bids.
Quote from: Classic94 on June 09, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
These rumours are very promising to be fair - Lees, Dunk, Stearman... are exactly the kind of players we should be looking at. Hopefully we up our bids.
I agree, they are the sort of players we should be trying to sign. There is time to up our bids if that is what it takes. Within reason I don't mind waiting. My only concerns are i. we don't lose out in every case to other bolder clubs ii. I have said many times that I think it is essential that the majority of our first choice squad is in place for some of the pre season friendlies. It is very damaging when players are thrown together to build a team in the first competitive league matches.
Quote from: Twig on June 09, 2015, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: Classic94 on June 09, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
These rumours are very promising to be fair - Lees, Dunk, Stearman... are exactly the kind of players we should be looking at. Hopefully we up our bids.
I agree, they are the sort of players we should be trying to sign. There is time to up our bids if that is what it takes. Within reason I don't mind waiting. My only concerns are i. we don't lose out in every case to other bolder clubs ii. I have said many times that I think it is essential that the majority of our first choice squad is in place for some of the pre season friendlies. It is very damaging when players are thrown together to build a team in the first competitive league matches.
Yeah well we have a training camp in Portugal at the start of July before playing Crawley on the 18th so, ideally, we must bring in a few players before our first competitive pre-season game, as well as clearing some deadwood (and there is plenty).
As you point out, the vast majority of our first team squad should be in place by early August - or earlier, to give the players time to gel, and the manager time to identify his best XI - last pre-season was a car crash in this respect. Given just how much work needs to be done in this window, I'd hope that discussions with potential new signings are well underway.
Fulham Winning Race for Pringle
Fulham are set to beat the Blues to the signature of former Rotherham midfielder Ben Pringle, TWTD understands.
Out-of-contract Pringle, who turned down a new three-year deal with the Millers, was initially reported to be interesting Town, the Cottagers and a number of other Championship and League One clubs late last month.
We understand that Town made an offer to the 26-year-old but that Fulham subsequently made an approach and that as things stand Newcastle-born Pringle will join the West Londoners when his Rotherham contract is up at the end of the month.
Pringle signed for the Millers from Derby County in 2011 after a spell in non-league with Newcastle Blue Star, Morpeth Town and Ilkeston Town, having been with West Brom's academy as a youngster. While with Derby he spent a spell on loan with Torquay.
Pringle, whose set pieces led to both Rotherham's goals in their 2-0 victory over the Blues in February, made 154 starts and 14 sub appearances for Rotherham, scoring 22 goals, and helped them to promotion from League Two as runners-up in 2012/13 and League One via the play-offs in 2013/14.
Meanwhile, Stephen Hunt, who is still to be offered a new contract by the Blues, was fined £100, had three points added to his licence and was ordered to pay a £20 victim surcharge by a court in Bury St Edmunds yesterday having admitted speeding at 89mph on the A14 at Newmarket in September last year.
Hunt, who is currently back in Ireland, pleaded guilty by post initially wanted accept a fixed penalty but was unable to do so as the letter had been sent to an old address in Kesgrave rather than his current home in Sutton Coldfield.
Elsewhere, former Blues striker Dean Bowditch, 28, has signed a new two-year deal with Championship new boys the MK Dons.
Blues academy product Sammy Moore, 27, who made one senior sub appearance for Town, has joined Leyton Orient after leaving AFC Wimbledon.
http://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/27534/ (http://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/27534/)
Ipswich Town Talk @IpswichTownTalk 15m15 minutes ago
Fulham now look set to beat Town to the signature of former Rotherham midfielder Ben Pringle. Thoughts? #itfc #ffc pic.twitter.com/Lq3V4rCSEG
Get him in the Door.
Swansea accept Fulham's Jazz Richards bid
(http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jazz-richards-of-fulham-tangles-with-jesse-lingard-of-derby-news-photo/465205198?et=m-KBe3j4RIBgJ3wtQHMPsQ&referrer=http:%2F%2Fhereisthecity.com%2Fen-gb%2F2015%2F06%2F10%2Fswansea-accept-fulhams-jazz-richards-bid%2F)
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Swansea City have accepted an offer from Fulham for defender Jazz Richards.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham and Queens Park Rangers had made enquiries for Richards, but now Fulham are in pole position to land the full-back after agreeing a fee for his services.
Richards enjoyed a successful spell on loan at Fulham last season, making 14 appearances at Craven Cottage, and Kit Symons had made him one of his top targets this summer.
Symons is looking to rebuild his squad at Fulham after a difficult first campaign in charge with the club just narrowly avoiding relegation.
SEE ALSO: Fulham and QPR eye Wales defender
The 24-year-old is in the final year of his contract at Swansea and the Welsh club are ready to let Richards move on.
Richards is keen to find a new club as he looks to be playing regular first-team football after finding himself behind the likes of Kyle Naughton and Angel Rangel at the Liberty Stadium.
Will Jazz Richards be a good signing for Fulham?
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/10/swansea-accept-fulhams-jazz-richards-bid/page/1/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/10/swansea-accept-fulhams-jazz-richards-bid/page/1/)
Nooooooo, he's so terribly average...
Much rather play Grimmer ahead of him
Bargain bin signing
Jazz isn't as bad as many on here seem to think..
Not even, we could easily spend the £500,000 quoted better elsewhere
i wasn't overwhelmed by Grimmer last season, hopefully he improves, the same can be said of my view of Richards as well as in I wasn't overwhelmed
I just want to cry if we sign him
Typical case of: Jobs for the "Boyoh's"
Very uninspiring if true..
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
I just want to cry if we sign him
Iv'e already started.. :012:
Richards enjoyed a successful spell on loan at Fulham last season, making 14 appearances at Craven Cottage, and Kit Symons had made him one of his top targets this summer.
Hardly a successful spell.
This sums up our ambition if he is a top target. Who the hell are the others.
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
We do not need Richards, he is so unbelievably average an offers absolutely nothing imo. It would be a waste of money and if this is to be our first signing then frankly I give up ever holding out hope for a promising transfer window whilst we still have certain people making decisions at the club.
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
You would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
You would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
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Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
You would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
I dont know how many, you tell me as its the stat you have brought up?
Richards is very much a Kit signing, completely underwhelming and out of his depth in this division
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Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
You would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
I dont know how many, you tell me as its the stat you have brought up?
I'm not trying to start an argument with you but you are being far to over protective over Grimmer.
We will conceivably be left with one right back someone who can play in this league on either side for 500k is a bargain and will do little to effect the transfer budget that will be utilised elsewhere
Not seeing the down side of
Not sure MJG is defending Grimmer just saying he thinks Richards is a little rash with tackles and maybe we can do better
Jazz is a great name though, perhaps that is what Kit sees in him.
I think the lad has potential.
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
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Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
You would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
I dont know how many, you tell me as its the stat you have brought up?
I'm not trying to start an argument with you but you are being far to over protective over Grimmer.
We will conceivably be left with one right back someone who can play in this league on either side for 500k is a bargain and will do little to effect the transfer budget that will be utilised elsewhere
Not seeing the down side of
I make no bones about it, I'm a Grimmer fan. But on the other thread I have given my reasons why I dont rate Richards firstly as a player and then as again not balancing the squad out.
Let me take the left back point, at Norwich he just about used his left to stand on, hardly got over our halfway line and in essence right in front of us was a liability.
I would prefer Jack to get the main position, but I'm aware hes still learning. Richards is 4 years older with only 30 odd more games under his belt than Jack.
So my preference would be an older RB who could one do a job clearly and also that Grimmer could watch, learn and compete with. Instead we now have two RB's who lets be honest are only small degrees better or worse than each other.
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Of course I'm asking
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:45:16 PM
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Of course I'm asking
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on June 09, 2015, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: Chesh on June 09, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Depends how much you want or need that 'house'
We are in desperate need for quality centre backs, as give or take one or two (only) decent games each, Hutchinson, Burn and Bodurov are just not up to it.
More often than not we lose the player by fannying around, and should have a minimum £7-8 million budget for two decent quality centre backs, as they are the foundation of a successful season (as opposed to the collapsible mess we have at the moment)
I can't help but think you are being massively unrealistic for Championship budgets, championship players and indeed for a period of time so early in the window.
No, I'm thinking more of our budget specifically (rather than championship budgets in general), and how I think it is important to spend most of ours on what is (imho) needed most.
If Khan is really serious about getting us back up, we can handle £7-8mill even within the FPP rules, and I just think we should not pussy foot around the issue, regardless of how early in the window.
We could have Mourinho in charge, and we would still struggle with the 3 centre back we currently have. I just can't see them improving sufficiently to give us any sort of backbone.
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Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Of course I'm asking
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
So the other 7 were Stafylidis then
Richards for 500K is not bad business for a squad player when we are on a budget. We need cover at that position, he provides some. Our squad needs some impact signings this summer, but also needs some economical signings to provide depth. Seemed like half the team was loanees last year who have departed. Do we want Richards to start, no. That said I feel better having him on the cheap as an option while we chase more quality. Stafy was not great but started a lot of matches last year, he is gone. Husband gone (for now...would like to have him back)
We seem very active, linked with a lot of players. I hope, and think, when the dust settles we will all be happy at the end of the window.
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Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Of course I'm asking
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
So the other 7 were Stafylidis then
Didn't realise we had given that many away to be honest He must make up for the majority of them now there's a rash player.
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Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Of course I'm asking
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
So the other 7 were Stafylidis then
Didn't realise we had given that many away to be honest He must make up for the majority of them now there's a rash player.
I'm joking really I dont know how many he gave away
I'm waiting for a train so busy going through the match reports for the stats
I stand corrected after going through the reports I make it:
12 pens conceded:
2 - Hutchinson (away to forest and away to Huddersfield )
2 - Hoogland (home to Doncaster cup and home to Derby cup)
2 - Staf (away to Wigan and away to Brighton )
1 - Burgess (home to Wolves)
1 - Burn (home to Norwich )
1 - Betts (home to Watford)
1 - Grimmer (away to Bournemouth)
1 - Bodurov (home to Sunderland cup)
1 - Richards (away to Huddersfield)
Every chance I missed one
Surely for each position we need the following:
1st Choice
Cover
Apprentice
So the argument here is where do Grimmer/Richards fit into this structure. Is Grimmer still the apprentice or is he now genuine cover? If he is cover, then Richards would be 1st choice which IMO is not good enough. Perhaps Kit still considers Grimmer the apprentice and sees Richards as cover and is still looking to bring in a 1st choice.
Richards isn't amazing, but hes not really bad either. Decent signing considering fee and the fact that he can cover Right/Left back. Dont understand what all the fuss is about. Not many RB's available that we could get for cheaper
Quote from: alexbishop on June 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Surely for each position we need the following:
1st Choice
Cover
Apprentice
So the argument here is where do Grimmer/Richards fit into this structure. Is Grimmer still the apprentice or is he now genuine cover? If he is cover, then Richards would be 1st choice which IMO is not good enough. Perhaps Kit still considers Grimmer the apprentice and sees Richards as cover and is still looking to bring in a 1st choice.
Cover and Apprentice, and most likely not interested in a 1st choice.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 10, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
Richards isn't amazing, but hes not really bad either. Decent signing considering fee and the fact that he can cover Right/Left back. Dont understand what all the fuss is about. Not many RB's available that we could get for cheaper
if you have the same manager and players that were shocking from january onwards, then what will you expect to change in the next season. jazz played lots of games for us and we were getting worse not better. decent fee for a defender who was part of the worst defence in the league? cheap option that doesnt make us any better is a more accurate description
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 10, 2015, 01:36:45 PM
Jazz is a great name though, perhaps that is what Kit sees in him.
I think the lad has potential.
Yes I quite fancy being called Jazz Crilly
according to Greame Bailey on twitter (ex sky man) we are launching a bod for Daryl Murphy
Quote from: westcliff white on June 10, 2015, 09:01:23 PM
according to Greame Bailey on twitter (ex sky man) we are launching a bod for Daryl Murphy
Scored 21 goals for Ipswich last season but is now 32? May not replicate that again, plus we have Matt Smith.
Daryl Murphy would be a good signing for us, and it's not the first time he's been linked with a Fulham move this summer. He's a big, strong striker with a lot of tenacity and bravery. Murphy can score with both his right and his strongest left foot and can beat many centre backs in the air. He's clearly at the peak of his career and would be a good foil for Ross McCormack up top, the argument that he may not replicate his season is a fair one, but I don't think Matt Smith is the striker we want starting on a weekly basis, he's great for the last 15 minutes to grab some last minute points - I'd like Fulham to focus on better football than the desperation stuff at the squeaky part at the end of the season.
Daryl Murphy is the kind of player that the management would look to sign, last year saw 13/14's top scorer and PFA Championship Team of the Season member join, so it's not bizarre for us to add 13/14's PFA League One Team of the Season member (Ben Pringle) and 14/15's PFA Championship Team of the Season and top scorer (Murphy) arrive at Fulham. Lets see what happens, because again, this isn't the first link.
We just extend Cauley. So for me the question comes down to is he (Murphy) better than Hugo, is he an upgrade. I feel that he is and at his age we would get him at a better price than some of the other options out there. I think it would be a good signing...giving us McCormack, Murphy, Smith, Woodrow, Dembele up front. Thats not too shabby in my opinion.
The best piece of business we can do this window is to give new deals to:
Bettinelli, Burn, Roberts, Dembele, Hydnman.
That's the future spine of the club and that could leave for free next summer.
Scary.
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Quote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Whilst both of these players have potential to provide the required creativity from midfield, neither will provide adequate protection for our back four. They are playmakers, not destroyers. We need an intelligent defensively minded player who can hold their position in front of the back four and win the ball back.
Chances of Mitroglou going to Turkey just went up.
Olympiacos manager Vitor Pereira left the club this week and signed with Fener. He will probably plunder some players he liked - like Mitroglou.
Also Kasami just signed for Inter.
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Whilst both of these players have potential to provide the required creativity from midfield, neither will provide adequate protection for our back four. They are playmakers, not destroyers. We need an intelligent defensively minded player who can hold their position in front of the back four and win the ball back.
Yes - BUT - what you said was
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Am I right in thinking that if we have agreed terms with Pringle we could announce it now? Just stating that he would join when his contract expired at the end of the month.
if we had agreed terms then yes we can announce and he would join upon expiry (i.e. 01/07)
Quote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 01:33:16 PM
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Whilst both of these players have potential to provide the required creativity from midfield, neither will provide adequate protection for our back four. They are playmakers, not destroyers. We need an intelligent defensively minded player who can hold their position in front of the back four and win the ball back.
Yes - BUT - what you said was Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Yea but you only half answered my question. I said we could have two problems in midfield - cover for defence and creativity in midfield. You said LVC and Hyndman would resolve that problem. My subsequent reply was me agreeing that they could solve the creativity issue, but would not resolve the defensive cover issue.
Bristol City chase deal for ex-Leeds United striker
Newly promoted Championship side Bristol City have targeted former Leeds striker Matt Smith, according to FLW sources.
The Fulham striker signed from Leeds on the summer transfer deadline day for an undisclosed fee and joined teammate Ross McCormack at Craven Cottage, following his £11 million move.
Smith struggled for form under ex-Fulham boss Felix Magath and was shifted out on loan to Championship hopefuls Bristol City down in League One, where he struck a golden vein of form and scored seven times in 14 appearances, whilst also winning Bristol City's goal of the season award.
They attempted to make his deal permanent, or at least extend the loan, in January, but Fulham were unwilling to sell under new manager Kit Symons.
He didn't continue is form from League One and again fell out of favour, and it looks like he could be on the move again this summer.
FLW understands Steve Cotterill is keen on adding more strike power to there squad this summer, and has earmarked Matt Smith as the man to do just that.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-chase-deal-for-ex-leeds-united-striker/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-chase-deal-for-ex-leeds-united-striker/)
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
:plus one:
If Murphy was the belated Mullery replacement, how long must we wait for the next real "midfield general"?
Quote from: Holders on June 11, 2015, 08:42:32 PM
If Murphy was the belated Mullery replacement, how long must we wait for the next real "midfield general"?
Don't forget Lee Clarke and John Collins - both excellent midfielders!
Oh and Houghton, Steeeed, Fernandez,and even even Bullard. I think we have been pretty strong in that department over the years until Murphy left and Al closed his wallet!
All over twitter that we are very close to closing deals for both Bolton keeper andy Lonegan and palace striker dwight gayle. Have not got a link just on Twitter.
Wasn't Lonergan released by Bolton? Don't know much about him, but imagine he'd be backup to Betts.
Dwight Gayle would be absurdly good. I know there've been rumours of him joining us but won't believe it until it happens.
Gayle and Mccormack... Please!
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 11, 2015, 09:49:06 PM
All over twitter that we are very close to closing deals for both Bolton keeper andy Lonegan and palace striker dwight gayle. Have not got a link just on Twitter.
We've got more chance of getting Dwight York. Why would Palace sell their 6 million pound marque signing, who was of late, was just coming into his own and banging in the goals? He could quite easily go out on loan to a Norwich or Biurnemouth type Club next season.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 11, 2015, 11:34:54 PM
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 11, 2015, 09:49:06 PM
All over twitter that we are very close to closing deals for both Bolton keeper andy Lonegan and palace striker dwight gayle. Have not got a link just on Twitter.
We've got more chance of getting Dwight York. Why would Palace sell their 6 million pound marque signing, who was of late, was just coming into his own and banging in the goals? He could quite easily go out on loan to a Norwich or Biurnemouth type Club next season.
Because 2 weeks ago Palace said that they will selling him as hes not wanted
Gayle would literally be the best thing we could ask for, the guy will never be a world beater but he has an eye for good and pace, a better Beckford
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I cant see much of anything on twitter for either of the 2 mentioned above, but Gayle would be nice addition
Quote from: ollienixs on June 12, 2015, 12:11:30 AM
Gayle would literally be the best thing we could ask for, the guy will never be a world beater but he has an eye for good and pace, a better Beckford
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Gayle would be a fantastic signing.
Andy Lonergan who was previously mentioned, though...not so sure! Was good for PNE 10 years ago!
Lonegran would be a back up keeper for definite, strange how Bolton getting rid of their number one and two keepers. Bond an to Liverpool apparently as back upto mignolet and lonegran to whoever
Not sure where the Gayle rumour comes from? Lonergran as replacement for Kiraly has been around for a while and looks to be a possible.
Adel Taarabt has been released by the Hahas. Such a waste of talent. Similar situation to Collins John.
Quote from: grandad on June 12, 2015, 11:37:52 AM
Adel Taarabt has been released by the Hahas. Such a waste of talent. Similar situation to Collins John.
Maybe, but he's had the last laugh with a five year contract at Benfica
I hear sepp blater is on the phone to taarabts agent seeing if he will represent him.
Unbelievable that he has got a five year deal at a huge clubs, bags of talent but a head full of nails!
Manure have lashed out another £31 mil & they will still not win anything. How can a club with so much debt be able to spend such sums. I know their income is vast but this is just not right.
They generate massive amounts from sponsorship etc that's how. Chevrolet and Aon pay huge amounts for having their names on the first team and training kits. Plus the Adidas deal is worth even more per season
Quote from: westcliff white on June 12, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
They generate massive amounts from sponsorship etc that's how. Chevrolet and Aon pay huge amounts for having their names on the first team and training kits. Plus the Adidas deal is worth even more per season
Last season Fulham wanted nearly £200k just to sponsor them in a very limited capacity. Season before that they wanted £650K.
Quote from: grandad on June 12, 2015, 03:58:33 PM
Manure have lashed out another £31 mil & they will still not win anything. How can a club with so much debt be able to spend such sums. I know their income is vast but this is just not right.
I doubt there are many clubs with the number of sponsorships they have, their income is incredible and as long as they spend within the limits put on them I don't see any issue with it.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Club/Sponsors.aspx (http://www.manutd.com/en/Club/Sponsors.aspx)
Would like to see Symons dip in to the Wales squad & pick up Chris Gunter & David Cotterill
Just seems links of Orlando Sa being on the radar of Reading. Did we really give this guy a chance? He played a few games. Scored on good goal against Norwich, and possibly knocked us out of the Europa League but his record since he has left isn't too bad: 18 goals or something.
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on June 12, 2015, 11:04:17 PM
Just seems links of Orlando Sa being on the radar of Reading. Did we really give this guy a chance? He played a few games. Scored on good goal against Norwich, and possibly knocked us out of the Europa League but his record since he has left isn't too bad: 18 goals or something.
Never forgive for the Europa exit. We were on the brink!
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
I know this rumour has been about for a little while now, but Emenike was getting £16m links to Chelsea just a few weeks ago!?
I wouldn't claim to be an expert on the Turkish league or Nigerian footballers, but Emenike is really highly rated. He's spoken about wanting to play in England, but he seems more Southhampton, Everton, Spurs level, not ours.. Still, if Rigg can pull this one off he'll have exceeded even this board's high expectations of him.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2015, 09:46:29 AM
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
he will fit right in with this attitude. one to put on the dont touch list methinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955)
If you've ever been to a Turkish game you'll realise that this will not have been a bit of moaning from the enclosure. He probably had threats to have his throat cut along with the gesture, very common at Turkish matches. I've been to Galatasaray when they turn on their own team and its bloody incredible.
Emmanuel Emenike
Quote from: fulhamben on June 13, 2015, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2015, 09:46:29 AM
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
he will fit right in with this attitude. one to put on the dont touch list methinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955)
Well, he would certainly be a challenge!
Have a read of his Wikipedia entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Emenike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Emenike)
Reads like the outline for a movie script (Idris Alba to star). Even if there were some element of truth in half of it he would represent the kind of risk we might not want to take.
Be interesting, though.
Quote from: cmg on June 13, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
Emmanuel Emenike
Quote from: fulhamben on June 13, 2015, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2015, 09:46:29 AM
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
he will fit right in with this attitude. one to put on the dont touch list methinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955)
Well, he would certainly be a challenge!
Have a read of his Wikipedia entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Emenike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Emenike)
Reads like the outline for a movie script (Idris Alba to star). Even if there were some element of truth in half of it he would represent the kind of risk we might not want to take.
Be interesting, though.
omg, he is a shoe in for fifa president when he hangs up his boots. this is def one to put on the dont touch list.
Quote from: ollienixs on June 12, 2015, 12:11:30 AM
Gayle would literally be the best thing we could ask for, the guy will never be a world beater but he has an eye for good and pace, a better Beckford
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He torched us. Fact. He'd be great, but what we really need is defenders that can handle a player of that quality.
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
give them parker smith and tunni if they just want some english players
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Based on last season I actually think he would be mad not to go. Probably get a massive pay rise and wont play much but he played very little football here anyway. Somehow I think learning off of the likes of Aguero/ Silva will develop him more than having a cameo every so often to give the likes of Kavanagh a rest. Worst ways City will loan him somewhere he will actually get games unlike what he gets here. From the outside it looks like he has been managed terribly and deserved a fairer crack at it
Obviously had he featured as much as LVC did or even the amount Grimmer played then he would be foolish, just like Rodwell and Sinclair were. Difference is Pat isnt even a squad player here so I wouldnt blame him for leaving. Also think fulham could have got a lot more if we actually played him. Just one or two goals and an occasional bit of magic would have added value, so if the figure is 10million then fulham only have themselves to blame. You cant blame City for trying their luck
I think he has been managed well. I needs to carry on learning the game, bulk up & focus on impressing enough to become a full member of our 1st team squad.
There have been many instances of young players being thrust into 1st teams only to get burnt out physically & mentally. Our youth set up is one of the best in the country. How many kids from Man City, The Blue Poo & other "big" clubs make it to their respective 1st teams compared with ours.
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
yes so we can buy some more jazz richards. id sell every player we had before selling pat. and if we had a decent manager, pat would probably play more
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on June 14, 2015, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Based on last season I actually think he would be mad not to go. Probably get a massive pay rise and wont play much but he played very little football here anyway. Somehow I think learning off of the likes of Aguero/ Silva will develop him more than having a cameo every so often to give the likes of Kavanagh a rest. Worst ways City will loan him somewhere he will actually get games unlike what he gets here. From the outside it looks like he has been managed terribly and deserved a fairer crack at it
Obviously had he featured as much as LVC did or even the amount Grimmer played then he would be foolish, just like Rodwell and Sinclair were. Difference is Pat isnt even a squad player here so I wouldnt blame him for leaving. Also think fulham could have got a lot more if we actually played him. Just one or two goals and an occasional bit of magic would have added value, so if the figure is 10million then fulham only have themselves to blame. You cant blame City for trying their luck
I agree with most of what you sat, however i still think that Pat would have more game opportunities here, it's unlikely he would see the light of day at a big club..
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 14, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on June 14, 2015, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Based on last season I actually think he would be mad not to go. Probably get a massive pay rise and wont play much but he played very little football here anyway. Somehow I think learning off of the likes of Aguero/ Silva will develop him more than having a cameo every so often to give the likes of Kavanagh a rest. Worst ways City will loan him somewhere he will actually get games unlike what he gets here. From the outside it looks like he has been managed terribly and deserved a fairer crack at it
Obviously had he featured as much as LVC did or even the amount Grimmer played then he would be foolish, just like Rodwell and Sinclair were. Difference is Pat isnt even a squad player here so I wouldnt blame him for leaving. Also think fulham could have got a lot more if we actually played him. Just one or two goals and an occasional bit of magic would have added value, so if the figure is 10million then fulham only have themselves to blame. You cant blame City for trying their luck
I agree with most of what you sat, however i still think that Pat would have more game opportunities here, it's unlikely he would see the light of day at a big club..
but knowing our crap lot, they would loan him back and expect us to be happy about it
Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 09:53:51 AM
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
yes so we can buy some more jazz richards. id sell every player we had before selling pat. and if we had a decent manager, pat would probably play more
Immature reply so we can buy more Ashley Richards get a life.......He's demanding more game time well 50% of game time before he signs a new deal, a 18 year old throwing around demands. Cash in Fulham get rid simple!
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 09:53:51 AM
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
yes so we can buy some more jazz richards. id sell every player we had before selling pat. and if we had a decent manager, pat would probably play more
Immature reply so we can buy more Ashley Richards get a life.......He's demanding more game time well 50% of game time before he signs a new deal, a 18 year old throwing around demands. Cash in Fulham get rid simple!
immature? so you would sell your best assets because they want to play? and kit hasnt been very good with player aquisitions to date, so what good will cash do us. no doubt we will sell mitro ruiz and stek too. so why do we need the cash
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
Quote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
and thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
I am fed up of hearing about the lad... Cash in now Fulham.
We have a player whose talent, by any yardstick (except, perhaps, yours), puts him among the top players in his age group in the country. With good management, there is every likelihood that he will transfer that talent to first XI football at the highest level.
Fore sure, your remark is no more 'mature' than the response from Fulham Ben which you rounded on.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated...
I'd be interested to know what you have seen that makes you think he hasn't a future in the game at a level higher than the Club is now.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
...and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen.
As I understand, his dad is far more reasonable than you make him out to be. I may be wrong, but isn't the reason that Pat is at our Club at all owing to Roberts Snr's trust in our intent to bring our outstanding Academy players through to the first team sooner than if he had joined a high-ranking PL club?
I would, moreover, be surprised if he were stipulating that Pat should play a set number of games, but I can quite believe that he is asking serious questions of the Club's hierarchy as to how they intend to manage his son's transition to the first XI and fulfil the promise that persuaded him to advise his son to come here in the first place.
And, again, I may be wrong because I'm looking in from the outside, but last year's handling of Roberts seemed shambolic to me and does the Club no credit. He could and should have been nearer to playing first XI football than he is. I would quite understand if his father now wants assurances before a new contract is signed that Pat will be helped to develop far better than he was last season.
He was handled with due care to the lad. He is a boy in a mans world. He would get battered if played week in week out. He needs to finish growing & put on more muscle. He certainly has more talent than a lot of kids his age but he needs time to mature. Of course I want to see him play more games & I think he may do so this season.
I remember Trevor Francis & to an extent Michael Owen being burnt out before their time.
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
I don´t believe that for one moment. No way would Roberts would even get near the bench this coming season. Also it wasn´t mentioned if this 50% would be for 1st team, U 21´s, U 18¨s or loaned out.
PS. Why would they even want him if these are their targets.
Manchester City may have to spend £155m to sign Paul Pogba. Juventus want £80m for the 22-year-old France midfielder, who wants a five-year contract at £250k-a-week - which is £65m - plus a signing-on fee of £10m. (Daily Star Sunday)
Alternatively, City will pay £150m up front for Pogba, Liverpool's England winger Raheem Sterling, 20, and 23-year-old Belgium midfielder Kevin De Bruyne from Wolfsburg. (Daily Mirror)
City are desperate for English players, not only for this season but going forward as well, so the u21 rule is not an issue really.
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
I don´t believe that for one moment. No way would Roberts would even get near the bench this coming season. Also it wasn´t mentioned if this 50% would be for 1st team, U 21´s, U 18¨s or loaned out.
'Apparently' it's 1st team only + 25% of Chs Lge. Which teams will constitute the 50% hasn't been decided yet. Pat himself has gone dibs on Man Utd, Arsenal and Tottenham, his dad has insisted on Liverpool and Everton away, but both are happy to pass on Stoke and Sunderland away, especially if they are on a wet Tuesday in January.
There is, of course, another alternative.
Not good when this topic is relegated to page 2.
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Not good when this topic is relegated to page 2.
Won't be the only thing relegated at this rate! ha :)
Apparently QPR have made a late bid for Pringle.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 15, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
Apparently QPR have made a late bid for Pringle.
That'll be about right. Not like us to leave things late, or leave an opening for another Club to step in. Knew this one was taking to long for a reason, and to top it off, we'll be robbed by the Ha Ha's who should be having a transfer embargo
From the Mirror (at 14:11) http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-felipe-anderson-5884397: (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-felipe-anderson-5884397:)
Fulham have shown an interest in Crystal Palace striker Fraizer Campbell.
The former Manchester United, Sunderland and Cardiff striker managed just four Premier League goals for the Eagles last season following his £900,000 move to Selhurst Park.
Campbell was restricted to just 15 starts in all competitions, and is surplus to requirements at the Eagles.
The Cottagers are among the clubs keen on the 27-year-old, but nobody is willing to meet his £30,000-a-week wages.
However, Palace could be willing to let Campbell leave on loan instead if a permanent deal can not be reached.
Well Palace just signed Hangers to a new deal as well, so those rumours can be put to bed at last
Were there any rumours of us want Hangeland? thought it was just us lot on here saying he could do a job teaching our youngsters etc.
Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
This makes no sense. Why would any team agree to 50% of games before you have earned the right to start? Especially Man City where he is no where near ready. If he can walk into Man City's squad for 50% of thier games then his price should reflect that and we should ask for 30 million (I am being a smart ass, but seriously this rumor has to be rubbish, no?)
I have seen us linked with strikers, wingers, Jazz, and Dunk......have I missed it or have we not yet been linked with any central mids?
Signing a new contract is imperative.
In the long run it won't make any difference to Roberts, because he will either be signed by a top club or not and those sorts of clubs won't really worry to much about the price if he is 'established'
The main ones to benefit would be us because we could demand a higher fee, in the region of some of the others that have been transferred recently. eg: Sterling
The higher the fee the more % he will earn.
There is also surely no rush.
Let's say he plays a lot more this year and catches the eye of Roy, who's not shy when giving youngsters a chance.
The season after that he's a regular and he's still only 20.
Selling him now for even $15 would be a HUGE mistake for him and us,
Slow down, we know he's destined for greatness, lets cash in when the
time is right, unless of course we are in the top 6 of the PL in which case
he may stay a while longer !
The profit from Roberts would justify the Academy for the past few years and we will be able to turn out more youngsters, as we are now (Hyndman, LVC, Woodrow etc) and hopefully a constant stream in the future.
Priority: sign him until at least 2018.
Like a lot of people on this board, I really rate Pat as a prospect. TBH I was a bit dissapointed in the cameos he played in last season. There was a lot of running in to blind alleys, sometimes when a head up simple pass would do he didn't take it.
As he is so slight of stature, in some ways he would be better served in the premiership where referees give more protection than in the championship, he did get knocked about a bit last season. However with a year in and around the squad, you have to think he'll get more games this season, he could be the right link between midfield and forwards, that Fulham need. Like LVC his ability to run with the ball at pace is great. Although he is not a classic winger, he is better coming in from a wide midfiled position.
I want him to stay, and hope he does, and would be dissapointed if he leaves.
Roberts is a tremendous prospect, but should be nurtured and brought along gradually -unless he is sold, which he will be eventually -but let's hope Fulham can enjoy and benefit from his talent first.
Jazz Richards has had Prem Clubs become interested since Fulham have had a bid accepted.
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Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
This makes no sense. Why would any team agree to 50% of games before you have earned the right to start? Especially Man City where he is no where near ready. If he can walk into Man City's squad for 50% of thier games then his price should reflect that and we should ask for 30 million (I am being a smart ass, but seriously this rumor has to be rubbish, no?)
Oh dear, oh dear. I have to admit total failure here.
Of course it's rubbish.
I thought I had made it quite clear by the use of 'Apparently'. Obviously I was wrong.
I have long poured scorn on here on reports that such and such a player has a 'must start' clause in his contract. I have always maintained that this would not even be practically possible and that no club would compromise themselves in this way.
I was, in what appears now to be a ham-fisted and ineffectual way, suggesting that I did not believe for one moment that Pat Roberts' father was insisting that the lad started 50% of the games. I do not believe that he would do so. Nor do I believe that any club would countenance such a proposal. Nor do I really believe that a top PL club would allow an untested 18 year old to pick and choose what games he plays in.
I thought that the depressing way in which every half-arsed rumour, however ludicrous, is instantly swallowed as if gospel truth needed a corrective. I was obviously wrong.....Or possibly right.
No chance of Hangeland returning - he's signed for another year at Palace.
http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/national/13333117.Hangeland_pens_new_Palace_deal/ (http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/national/13333117.Hangeland_pens_new_Palace_deal/)
Who said hangers was returning? Have I missed a rumour?
The below us in the ever reliable football-rumours.co.uk website
15 Jun 2015 13:15:04
He's having a medical this minute - don't believe me? Go down to MP now - Lonergan & O'hara are there too.
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
Posted by billy Bob do don't know how good or bad the story is as he can be right and also so very very wrong
Quote from: cmg on June 15, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: McBride78 on June 15, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
This makes no sense. Why would any team agree to 50% of games before you have earned the right to start? Especially Man City where he is no where near ready. If he can walk into Man City's squad for 50% of thier games then his price should reflect that and we should ask for 30 million (I am being a smart ass, but seriously this rumor has to be rubbish, no?)
Oh dear, oh dear. I have to admit total failure here.
Of course it's rubbish.
I thought I had made it quite clear by the use of 'Apparently'. Obviously I was wrong.
I have long poured scorn on here on reports that such and such a player has a 'must start' clause in his contract. I have always maintained that this would not even be practically possible and that no club would compromise themselves in this way.
I was, in what appears now to be a ham-fisted and ineffectual way, suggesting that I did not believe for one moment that Pat Roberts' father was insisting that the lad started 50% of the games. I do not believe that he would do so. Nor do I believe that any club would countenance such a proposal. Nor do I really believe that a top PL club would allow an untested 18 year old to pick and choose what games he plays in.
I thought that the depressing way in which every half-arsed rumour, however ludicrous, is instantly swallowed as if gospel truth needed a corrective. I was obviously wrong.....Or possibly right.
I am American. Low football IQ and easily duped. =)
15 Jun 2015 10:19:39
Seems as though QPR are now in for Pringle, matched FFC offer and are talking to him personally this week
westcliff white
15 Jun 2015 13:15:04
He's having a medical this minute - don't believe me? Go down to MP now - Lonergan & O'hara are there too.
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 15, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
15 Jun 2015 10:19:39
Seems as though QPR are now in for Pringle, matched FFC offer and are talking to him personally this week
westcliff white
15 Jun 2015 13:15:04
He's having a medical this minute - don't believe me? Go down to MP now - Lonergan & O'hara are there too.
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
So reading this is it correct that Pringle, Lonergan and Jamie O'Hara are having medicals....Where's O'Hara come from this is new?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 15, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
15 Jun 2015 10:19:39
Seems as though QPR are now in for Pringle, matched FFC offer and are talking to him personally this week
westcliff white
15 Jun 2015 13:15:04
He's having a medical this minute - don't believe me? Go down to MP now - Lonergan & O'hara are there too.
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
Not sure what our saying as no message, but I was saying that the first one was a twitter message and the other from some website. neither were anything to do with me, I was just relaying the info
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
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http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/28/fulham-look-to-blackburn-star-tom-cairney/page/1/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/28/fulham-look-to-blackburn-star-tom-cairney/page/1/)
HITC Sport understands Fulham are lining up a raid on Championship rivals Blackburn Rovers for midfielder Tom Cairney.
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Fulham are planning to make a bid for highly-rated Blackburn Rovers star Tom Cairney.
Fulham boss Kit Symons is determined to rebuild his squad at Craven Cottage next season after a disappointing campaign in the Championship this term.
Symons is set to be handed a healthy transfer kitty to bring in new faces and Blackburn midfielder Cairney is thought to be among his top targets.
Cairney has really caught the eye at Blackburn after initially joining on loan from Hull City in the summer of 2013 before making the move permanent in January 2014.
The former Leeds United youngster is widely regarded as one of the best attacking midfielders in the Championship, and Symons believes the Scotland Under-21 international could be key to his plans as he looks to build a team capable of winning promotion back to the Premier League.
Blackburn would be reluctant to lose Cairney, but due to Financial Fair Play regulations they could find it hard to resist a big-money offer for the 24-year-old.
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Someone with plenty of money?
Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 10:13:54 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
and thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
What has our manager got to do with it ?
It would take an act of God to stop him signing for City or one of the other top clubs if they were interested
He's got an agent - a football agents job is to get sell his clients services to the highest bidder - club loyalty counts for nothing
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Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 10:13:54 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
and thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
What has our manager got to do with it ?
It would take an act of God to stop him signing for City or one of the other top clubs if they were interested
He's got an agent - a football agents job is to get sell his clients services to the highest bidder - club loyalty counts for nothing
I think the Manager has an awful lot to do with it.
If he had been played last season he may not want to go this!
Roberts isn't good enough and too lightweight to make it with Fulham at the moment. IF he goes to City we may never hear from him again. Blaming the manager for not playing a player who isn't ready and will be poached anyway is wide of the mark. Players who are young and ready and good enough to play are the ones we need to hang onto. Roberts isn't one of them, yet.
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Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
and thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
What has our manager got to do with it ?
It would take an act of God to stop him signing for City or one of the other top clubs if they were interested
He's got an agent - a football agents job is to get sell his clients services to the highest bidder - club loyalty counts for nothing
I think the Manager has an awful lot to do with it.
If he had been played last season he may not want to go this!
I tend to agree with Lighthouse on this, but also if one club is willing to pay him 10-15k per week and we offer only 5k then the kid will go with the money. That isnt the managers fault.
Even if he had been playing and City offered the rumoured 10-15k then he would still go.
Can we keep this silly season thread for strictly transfer In rumors? Can't stand the hypotheticals of whether a player who has barely played or produced anything for our first team being used as the club's remise! ;)
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As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
according to the sky sports website live transfer feed newcastle are after lewis dunk for 5 million
Quote from: FPT on June 16, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
What an incredibly rational post. I've had a feeling we would lose him especially down to lack of game time but was suprised at how much it disappointed me when I read his move was close to going through. I actually posted something similar to this but far less eloquent a while ago and your post has brought me back from being disappointed to being realistic. It's a shame would couldn't have watched him playing his best in the first team but what can you do?
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 16, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 16, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
What an incredibly rational post. I've had a feeling we would lose him especially down to lack of game time but was suprised at how much it disappointed me when I read his move was close to going through. I actually posted something similar to this but far less eloquent a while ago and your post has brought me back from being disappointed to being realistic. It's a shame would couldn't have watched him playing his best in the first team but what can you do?
I just want a player in a fulham shirt to make me proud. One that I can rave about to my chelsea supporting mates. The ones that have conveniently reminded me that they have read on the net that we have lost our golden boy to man city.
You know, I love Fulham FC, but I really hate soccer.
Apparently, I should be happy that we have made £5m....
Quote from: BedsFFC on June 16, 2015, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 16, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 16, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
What an incredibly rational post. I've had a feeling we would lose him especially down to lack of game time but was suprised at how much it disappointed me when I read his move was close to going through. I actually posted something similar to this but far less eloquent a while ago and your post has brought me back from being disappointed to being realistic. It's a shame would couldn't have watched him playing his best in the first team but what can you do?
I just want a player in a fulham shirt to make me proud. One that I can rave about to my chelsea supporting mates. The ones that have conveniently reminded me that they have read on the net that we have lost our golden boy to man city.
You know, I love Fulham FC, but I really hate soccer.
Apparently, I should be happy that we have made £5m....
I agree but it doesn't really contradict the points made. I think me and FTP want the same. That doesn't make Roberts that player. I think he could be and is our best chance since dembele1. Even more so as he has worked his way up the ranks. The problem is if he doesn't want to play for us he goes not fit your bill. If he is drawn by citeh's bench/under21's then he is not going to stay for long whatever league we are in. I regret we cannot see him work his magic for us but if he doesn't want to be here then what would you have us do? If we do a Southampton, which is our best possible team to replicate then we need to nurture and sell. Players will come to a club that will help them progress then sell them without stopping their progression. Holding on to him may well damage us more than keeping him.
I suppose what I'm saying is that although I want what you want, if it isn't the players desire to stay how can he be the player you talk of? He won't stay if he hits it big so he wont be the player you are hoping for so your point won't work with him.
Lets give Kit a real chance and get some decent players in quick enough to give him the time needed to prepare a winning team.
Quote from: mikestrand on June 17, 2015, 02:45:37 AM
Lets give Kit a real chance and get some decent players in quick enough to give him the time needed to prepare a winning team.
That's all I want. Hopefully he will succeed. If not then we will have given him a fair crack of the whip. Do it and do it soonest.
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Quote from: Chutney on June 17, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Another rumoured transfer target gone to a club that is not us.
The optimists will say we were never interested. The pesemistics will say we let another target get away.
We were probably interested but the player will go for the Premiership club of course. Next down on the shortlist...
Quote from: Chutney on June 17, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Another of the so called players we were supposed to have
bid for..
Why the sarcasm you know what I meant..
Quote from: alexbishop on June 17, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on June 17, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Another rumoured transfer target gone to a club that is not us.
The optimists will say we were never interested. The pesemistics will say we let another target get away.
We were probably interested but the player will go for the Premiership club of course. Next down on the shortlist...
I think its a good sign that we are aiming for those type of players that have interest from PL clubs. We wont get them all but a few might slip our way.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 15, 2015, 05:16:27 PM
No chance of Hangeland returning - he's signed for another year at Palace.
http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/national/13333117.Hangeland_pens_new_Palace_deal/ (http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/national/13333117.Hangeland_pens_new_Palace_deal/)
A few Palace fan mates at work. They thought Hangeland played well for them.
Brilliant in last game of the season apparently.
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
Former Gillingham midfielder James Davies set to sign for #Millwall after a failed trial at Fulham
Quote from: westcliff white on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
No thanks...
Quote from: westcliff white on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
Invest in a cake shop in New Malden if he joins
Quote from: MJG on June 17, 2015, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
Invest in a cake shop in New Malden if he joins
Either way, no doubt he'll end up at QPR, if we've got any real interest.
Ramsey and Les will know O'Hara from his days at spurs which may have some pull as to where he ends up. He would be an upgrade if he reproduces his Pompey form though.
17 Jun 2015 06:02:50
Joey Barton in Shock Fulham move. can't see it myself.
Bunny Rabbit
17 Jun 2015 10:08:59
Id be happy if he signed!!
RTFFC
Are we signing the Bunny Rabbit?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 17, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
17 Jun 2015 06:02:50
Joey Barton in Shock Fulham move. can't see it myself.
Bunny Rabbit
17 Jun 2015 10:08:59
Id be happy if he signed!!
RTFFC
He'd give us some steel. I'd make the terms that he stays off Twitter and out the boozer/limelight.
I wouldnt mind Barton myself. Better than the majority of our CMs
Quote from: Ordar on June 17, 2015, 05:39:09 PM
I wouldnt mind Barton myself. Better than the majority of our CMs
Better than the majority of our current CMs granted (and that's not hard), but the bloke is a liability whenever it takes his fancy, and it's all about him over anything else.
I really hope we can find others to fill the void.
Quote from: Ordar on June 17, 2015, 05:39:09 PM
I wouldnt mind Barton myself. Better than the majority of our CMs
I agree. He seems to have cut out the controversy and would be a leader with a strong personality, both of which we're lacking.
Agree on Barton. Experienced and would improve the team. Would be a good signing for the championship.
Ohara - no thanks.
Need defense......where are the rumours linking us to some defenders?
Quote from: McBride78 on June 17, 2015, 08:24:37 PM
Agree on Barton. Experienced and would improve the team. Would be a good signing for the championship.
Ohara - no thanks.
Need defense......where are the rumours linking us to some defenders?
We've been screaming out the need for CMs ever since Murph left us. That's like four seasons ago, probably three but, it seems like four.....or eight. We've only just begun to scream about central defense. Give the club time to react. I should think another two seasons would be plenty to address the need. :Get Coat gif: :hook:
It'd be nice to hear some decent transfer news though, I think most would agree! It's so boring being a Fulham supporter at times..
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 17, 2015, 08:46:12 PM
It'd be nice to hear some decent transfer news though, I think most would agree! It's so boring being a Fulham supporter at times..
Yes if only we could fast forward to the end f the transfer window to see what Chamionship reserve player we will end up signing
This summer, we've been linked with:
Rob Elliot, Andy Lonergan, David Forde,
Ashley Richards,
Matt Mills, Richard Stearman, Tom Lees,
Ben Pringle,
Toumani Diagouraga, Jamie O'Hara,
Samuel Di Carmine, Daryl Murphy, Frazier Campbell, Emmanuel Emenike (swap with Mitroglou),
These are the rumours that have featured on this page with a "legitimate" source. The Football Rumours website is bollocks, but does follow the 'silly season' rule. I'm not convinced by Here Is The City either so I've not included anything from there.
Ruiz exit??
Sporting Lisbon have agreed a 3.5m deal to sell right back Cederic Soares to Southampton, according to sky
This should give them the funds to purchase Ruiz from us who according to the media they have been chasing
The daily mirror are reporting this evening an 8m deal has been agreed with Manc although we know it's probably just paper talk right now
For Roberts of course
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
Jog on then dembele
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
Not surprised, once again badly handled at times. Had a great ten minute cameo in one game towards end if season and then dumped for rest of it.
He will be the real deal as a striker in a year or two
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2015, 07:54:49 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
Not surprised, once again badly handled at times. Had a great ten minute cameo in one game towards end if season and then dumped for rest of it.
He will be the real deal as a striker in a year or two
exactly, we should be keeping this kid - he will be the new Saha
Quote from: ollienixs on June 18, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
Jog on then dembele
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If he wants to go, let him.
Dembele is quality, What he said in that interview was actually quite complimentary of Fulham
£1.75 million bid for Brentford defender James Tarkowski...
not seen that one Mince, where is it from?
Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
not seen that one Mince, where is it from?
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/brentford-transfer-news-rumours-fulham-9480551? (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/brentford-transfer-news-rumours-fulham-9480551?)
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 18, 2015, 08:20:09 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2015, 07:54:49 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
Not surprised, once again badly handled at times. Had a great ten minute cameo in one game towards end if season and then dumped for rest of it.
He will be the real deal as a striker in a year or two
exactly, we should be keeping this kid - he will be the new Saha
I think this kid has the potential to be a great striker, but like Roberts he needs to play
Is he good enough to be in our squad right now?
Dembelle will be like Saha in a couple of years, so we'll be mad not to tie him down. However, we've taken the cheaper option in Woodrow, who coludn't even tie Dembelle's boots.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 18, 2015, 05:12:54 PM
Dembelle will be like Saha in a couple of years, so we'll be mad not to tie him down. However, we've taken the cheaper option in Woodrow, who coludn't even tie Dembelle's boots.
Moussa's going to be retired and married with two kids in just a couple of years???!! :58:
Your totally bang out of order for that comment that you made Wearethewhites. Your slating a current player who has just committed is future to the club, against a player that may want to leave.
It's bang out of order, and I hope that ever Fulham fan agrees with me. BANG OUT OF ORDER!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 18, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
Your totally bang out of order for that comment that you made Wearethewhites. Your slating a current player who has just committed is future to the club, against a player that may want to leave.
It's bang out of order, and I hope that ever Fulham fan agrees with me. BANG OUT OF ORDER!!!!!!!!
I didn't much like that bit either.
Not really bang out of order, Entitled to his opinion in saying that Moussa is ahead of Cauley, an opinion I agree with. Moussa did not quite say he wanted to leave. Actually said he loved Fulham and enjoyed being here
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 18, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
Your totally bang out of order for that comment that you made Wearethewhites. Your slating a current player who has just committed is future to the club, against a player that may want to leave.
It's bang out of order, and I hope that ever Fulham fan agrees with me. BANG OUT OF ORDER!!!!!!!!
Pretty sensitive. If he believes Woodrow is not as good as Dembele, that's fine. I don't rate either of them as they are. Dembele looks most likely to progress but not overly concerned if he left...my opinion of course.
Don't panic, the window hasn't even opened yet, there's plenty of time. Oh look, Derby add another to make it their 4th of the summer, and an absolute steel @ 2.75 million 049:gif
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Quite Fulhamish that we'll be the only club to wait for July 1st before we start bidding.
ive figured it out, most team buy players and then get rid of there dead wood, Fulham wait to get rid of there deadwood before buying and end up buying the others team dead wood as all the good players have gone
Weimann joining club with ambition and a good young manager, Fulham probably didn't even realise his availability?!
Quote from: malcbridger on June 19, 2015, 06:55:55 AM
Weimann joining club with ambition and a good young manager, Fulham probably didn't even realise his availability?!
+1
Sleepwalking again. But don't worry, I believe Fotheringham is still available!
Weimann will be a great signing at this level. Derby really strengthening. Got to be favorites for the league again next year
Quote from: Ordar on June 19, 2015, 09:44:10 AM
Weimann will be a great signing at this level. Derby really strengthening. Got to be favorites for the league again next year
Good strike force on top of an already strong midfield and defense. Will be right up there again.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
He's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Just have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Plus we have yet to see Taggart who seems a similar sort of player.
Weiman is a modern striker /wide player with real pace (even in the premiership ). That alone would have definitely given us something.
Quote from: The Moose on June 19, 2015, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
He's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Oh good - so poached egg on toast for everyone after training :005:
Quote from: Roberty on June 19, 2015, 11:27:45 AM
Quote from: The Moose on June 19, 2015, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
He's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Oh good - so poached egg on toast for everyone after training :005:
If I could post a picture of tumbleweed without too much effort...I would.
To be fair, I think if we announced Weimann it would have given everyone (or most) a bit of a buzz and would have improved current thoughts. That said, I'm not sure he's entirely needed or an essential missing part of our squad but he would sure as hell have been a welcome one. Still waiting for this kind of signing to create some sort of optimism.
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2015, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Just have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
And when we do sign someone he will be slated before he even kicks a ball as another clubs cast off.
Quote from: cookieg on June 19, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2015, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Just have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
And when we do sign someone he will be slated before he even kicks a ball as another clubs cast off.
I think people are entitled to an opinion based on players who have kicked a ball for other clubs though no? If you don't rate/like a player for any other club and he joins Fulham, I don't think immediately you need to slate/praise him. Give him a chance, yes but if we bought in a player in a position I think we're already covered in, and I don't particularly rate him, i'd say as much. And that's not slating the player really (unless hes a misogynist/racist/some form of criminal offence), that's more of a punt at the transfer policy at the club.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 19, 2015, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: cookieg on June 19, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2015, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Just have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
And when we do sign someone he will be slated before he even kicks a ball as another clubs cast off.
I think people are entitled to an opinion based on players who have kicked a ball for other clubs though no? If you don't rate/like a player for any other club and he joins Fulham, I don't think immediately you need to slate/praise him. Give him a chance, yes but if we bought in a player in a position I think we're already covered in, and I don't particularly rate him, i'd say as much. And that's not slating the player really (unless hes a misogynist/racist/some form of criminal offence), that's more of a punt at the transfer policy at the club.
I couldn't agree more about giving players a chance when they join the club. Because a player doesn't particularly have a glowing career at one club doesn't mean that he can't do a job for Fulham if he joins. Clearly our manager and scouting team see something in a player who they feel will add to the 1st team or squad. Perhaps the issue is what do they see that is different from what the fans see.
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Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
He's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Oh good - so poached egg on toast for everyone after training :005:
If I could post a picture of tumbleweed without too much effort...I would.
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Can we just use this thread for our club I hate going on this thread and all I read is about other teams If I wanted to read about other clubs then I would go on the forums.
Baird signs for Dereby
Derby arent messing about. Getting the squad together early. Makes sense with the new manager. Weimann is the only one they've signed that I'd have taken. Maybe Carson as backup
Quote from: Ordar on June 19, 2015, 01:13:05 PM
Derby arent messing about. Getting the squad together early. Makes sense with the new manager. Weimann is the only one they've signed that I'd have taken. Maybe Carson as backup
Just bid for Tom Ince as well,who was on loan since Jan.
What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
Signing Pringle and Lonergan...
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What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
I will attempt this again in the next couple of days..
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What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
I will attempt this again in the next couple of days..
Lol. Bad timing. Two good signings and hopefully the start of a promising and constructive window.
Ryan Taylor is talking to Standard Liege now having lived in Belgium for 3 years the standard is not ant betterthan the Championship so would he be worth a punt? He can play in a variety of positions on the left as well.
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What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
Err signing two players.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 19, 2015, 07:09:28 PM
Ryan Taylor is talking to Standard Liege now having lived in Belgium for 3 years the standard is not ant betterthan the Championship so would he be worth a punt? He can play in a variety of positions on the left as well.
Don't think it's worth the risk. His knee is a ticking time tomb. Plus he's over 30.
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Yesssssss
Great if Costalot is off . That means we have 4 premier league salaries left . Parker I think we will keep . Ruiz we will finally sell . Steks and Amore - I hope we can sell but I see both going on loans as who will buy and pay their salaries ?
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Hoping to get 8 million according to Talk Nonsense,be lucky
If we get 5 me thinks...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 03:38:51 PM
Hoping to get 8 million according to Talk Nonsense,be lucky
If we get 5 me thinks...
8 would be more than I'd thought we'd of got but very good if true.
I'm hearing something going around about Jamie O'Hara
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on June 20, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
I'm hearing something going around about Jamie O'Hara
We have been linked along with a few clubs to him in the past few weeks. Anything more solid than that?
Believe O'Hara was at MP the same time when Lonergan/Pringle were having their medicals. He can be a hothead, but I quite like O'Hara when on form. Kind of a mixture of Parker/Murphy/Guthrie. Could be a shrewd signing, and at least another solid set piece taker. Our central midfield is definitely weak with the loans leaving, so adding another would be fine business by me.
Cauley Woodrow also started following O'Hara on twitter at the same time as Pringle..
O'Hara I guess would be instead of Guthrie . I thought Guthrie looked decent .Given a choice between the 2 who would those you have seen O'Hara play more than me prefer ?
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O'Hara I guess would be instead of Guthrie . I thought Guthrie looked decent .Given a choice between the 2 who would those you have seen O'Hara play more than me prefer ?
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I would have gone for Guthrie but in all honesty there is a *** paper of difference between them in some ways.
I think the problem with Guthrie really is his injury record and can we afford to have a space taken by someone who is likely to spend half a season out. I reckon we brought him on loan as he was the best option available quality wise in the hope that he wouldn't get injured (which he did, for a week or so) with no plan to sign him as it would be just too high risk. And possibly even his known attitude from the past may have come into account. This is sad though cus he would be a great signing without these two poor assets.
Do we really want Jamie O'Hara? I've never seen a player have such a sharp drop in quality, and league, yet still been so wrapped up in the glamour of being a professional footballer.
Bridcutt could be off to Derby. He would've been a good replacement for Parker at this level.
Jamie O'Hara would be a decent signing for us on a free. He grabbed 8 assists despite starting in November and spending the 12 months before not playing football. He can thread through passes from deep, something we've not had since Danny Murphy. He also has a quality set piece delivery and the ability to stretch play with long balls. I wouldn't see him as a starter, but he would certainly be a very effective player in and around the first team bringing competition as a more creative ball player.
He's a doorknob, but on a free and a one-year-deal (no confirmation there) it should be good business. The bloke has quality, and valuable Premier League experience (nearly 100 games). At 29 (virtually) we've got to consider that he's entering his prime years as a footballer, especially with his style. Anyway, I'd be ok with O'Hara joining us, a wee bit excited in fact to see a true midfielder with a bit of innovation about him on the ball. He also plugs a gap and takes the pressure off of Emerson Hyndman continuing his movement into the professional game.
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Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Rtf
According to another report today Italian clubs Udinese and Sassuolo have entered race to sign Mitro which could spark bidding war
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Rtf
According to another report today Italian clubs Udinese and Sassuolo have entered race to sign Mitro which could spark bidding war
Udinese v Sassuolo for MitroglouUdinese and Sassuolo are tussling with Fenerbahce for Fulham striker Kostas Mitroglou.
Sport Mediaset suggest there is a bidding war going on between the three clubs for the Greek international.
The 27-year-old spent this season on loan at Olympiacos, where he scored 19 goals in 34 competitive matches.
He'll return to Fulham next month, but seems eager to move on again.
In Serie A there is interest from both Udinese and Sassuolo, while Turkish side Fenerbahce are seemingly prepared to offer wages worth €2m per season.
http://football-italia.net/68030/udinese-v-sassuolo-mitroglou (http://football-italia.net/68030/udinese-v-sassuolo-mitroglou)
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Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Rtf
According to another report today Italian clubs Udinese and Sassuolo have entered race to sign Mitro which could spark bidding war
Udinese v Sassuolo for Mitroglou
Udinese and Sassuolo are tussling with Fenerbahce for Fulham striker Kostas Mitroglou.
Sport Mediaset suggest there is a bidding war going on between the three clubs for the Greek international.
The 27-year-old spent this season on loan at Olympiacos, where he scored 19 goals in 34 competitive matches.
He'll return to Fulham next month, but seems eager to move on again.
In Serie A there is interest from both Udinese and Sassuolo, while Turkish side Fenerbahce are seemingly prepared to offer wages worth €2m per season.
http://football-italia.net/68030/udinese-v-sassuolo-mitroglou (http://football-italia.net/68030/udinese-v-sassuolo-mitroglou)
Best case scenario. Happy to see these kinds of rumors. Hopefully this drives the price up and puts Fulham in a better financial position for the transfer window.
I'd love O'Hara at Fulham. As someone said, he's another Murphy. Great passing range, decent age and not only that but he'd cost nothing. We could provide that springboard for his career to restart again and he'd love to come back to London.
He was outstanding for Blackpool and getting him fit for a whole season, we'd benefit so much.
Great passing range and set piece expert too.
Have to say Jamie O'Hara would be a decent pick up but am getting slightly concerned with all these free transfer signings
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on June 20, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
Have to say Jamie O'Hara would be a decent pick up but am getting slightly concerned with all these free transfer signings
Why? Decent frees with no money spent. We still need a left back two centre backs, two wingers and a striker. The more we save in some positions means we get to spend more in others
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Quote from: JackyFulham90 on June 20, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
Have to say Jamie O'Hara would be a decent pick up but am getting slightly concerned with all these free transfer signings
Why? Decent frees with no money spent. We still need a left back two centre backs, two wingers and a striker. The more we save in some positions means we get to spend more in others
We'll have a budget of around 10 million to spend I reckon, and won't go stupid, that's why Rigg's at the Club. Like you say, we still need a left back, two centre backs, right winger now (Pringles on board) and a striker.
Don't forget a proper CDM, that's where we REALLY need to invest
We need a decent ,strong athletic ,defensive midfielder who can play . That would be my first signing.
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We need a decent ,strong athletic ,defensive midfielder who can play . That would be my first signing.
Would need to be our third now Colin
Diagouraga from Brentford??
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Diagouraga from Brentford??
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects. However, if we did, it's give us a bit of bragging rights.
Hearing from a Bees mate Fulham going back with an improved offer for James Tarkowski?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
I would add that it also probably only matters to a minority of supporters.
Several players have moved between the clubs: Jimmy Hill came from and John Fraser went to Brentford, for example, both only playing for those two clubs.
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
I would add that it also probably only matters to a minority of supporters.
Several players have moved between the clubs: Jimmy Hill came from and John Fraser went to Brentford, for example, both only playing for those two clubs.
Disagree, a lot of Fulham fans just dont realise how much Brentford despise us. Jimmy Hill, John Frazer donkeys year before the current rivalry occured.
Benham would incur a lot of heat from Brentford fans if any of their better players came to us, but hes a businessman so reckon he would sell if price was right .Think we would have to pay over the odds for any Brentford player though
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
I would add that it also probably only matters to a minority of supporters.
Several players have moved between the clubs: Jimmy Hill came from and John Fraser went to Brentford, for example, both only playing for those two clubs.
Disagree, a lot of Fulham fans just dont realise how much Brentford despise us. Jimmy Hill, John Frazer donkeys year before the current rivalry occured.
Benham would incur a lot of heat from Brentford fans if any of their better players came to us, but hes a businessman so reckon he would sell if price was right .Think we would have to pay over the odds for any Brentford player though
Who cares if they despise us? Try to rise above this juvenile nonsense.
The original point was that it would be difficult to tempt a
player away. That would depend on relative prospects and wages and won't generally be affected by any rivalry.
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
John Dowie..
21 Jun 2015 10:50:45
Blackburn Rovers Tom Cairney is set to join Fulham for £3.2 million.
FFC99
Watford have had a 7million bid for Peroti of Genoa accepted.
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[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
John Dowie..
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That's the man. Provider of one of the most important 'assists' in Fulham history.
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21 Jun 2015 10:50:45
Blackburn Rovers Tom Cairney is set to join Fulham for £3.2 million.
FFC99
This might mean that we won't be getting Husband:
"Cairney sustained a serious knee injury in late August 2012, following a reckless tackle by Doncaster's James Husband in a League Cup tie"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cairney
Nathan Byrne , Fulham target looks like hes off to QPR
Is he a Fulham target?
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 21, 2015, 06:35:30 PM
Is he a Fulham target?
Was heavily linked a few weeks ago, few tweets from apparently ITK Swindon fans that he was definitely talking to Fulham
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Watford have had a 7million bid for Peroti of Genoa accepted.
where is that from
Tottenham's Belgium midfielder Mousa Demeble, 27, is also on Mourinho's list of summer transfer targets. (Sun on Sunday)
Mourinho knows quality
Spurs are apparently willing to loan DeAndre Yedlin for the season, he maybe worth a look at if we need a right back
Fulham have not improved their offer to Roberts but will not sell unless a bigger fee is forthcoming from City.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 22, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
Fulham have not improved their offer to Roberts but will not sell unless a bigger fee is forthcoming from City.
Source?
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Quote from: Lighthouse on June 22, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
Fulham have not improved their offer to Roberts but will not sell unless a bigger fee is forthcoming from City.
Source?
Fulham dig heels in over Manchester City bid for wonderkid
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Stalemate: Pat Roberts (R)
Fulham are refusing to budge on improving a new deal for wonderkid Patrick Roberts – and Manchester City are going to have to do a lot better than £5 million already offered.
A day after the Whites had yet to hear from the former Premier League champions, in came City in an attempt to take the 18-year-old talent (see video) off their hands.
Getwestlondon have been told the bid was rejected out of hand, but Roberts is also refusing to sign terms offered by Fulham, reported to be around £5,000-a-week.
Fulham boss Kit Symons argues the best place for a player he developed as U21 coach is with the Whites, but there may yet have to be a compromise over wages – or City are going to have come closer to the £10m price tag on the England U19 star.
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Spurs are apparently willing to loan DeAndre Yedlin for the season, he maybe worth a look at if we need a right back
Seems to be more ready made for RM/RW at the moment. The things holding him back are his defensive chops. Not saying he's a bad defender. He's not. But that is what is holding him back at Spurs from what little I've read.
At any rate, Yedlin's speed and attacking effectiveness would certainly make opponents think twice about committing too much down his side of the field.
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/afc-wimbledon-transfer-news-arsenal-9503647 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/afc-wimbledon-transfer-news-arsenal-9503647)
Fulham, alongside Arsenal and Brighton, looking at 18 year old Ryan Sweeney from AFC Wimbledon. Republic of Ireland U18 international with two games in League Two to his name.
Won't affect the first team, but still interesting none-the-less.
Quote from: FPT on June 22, 2015, 03:51:28 PM
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/afc-wimbledon-transfer-news-arsenal-9503647 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/afc-wimbledon-transfer-news-arsenal-9503647)
Fulham, alongside Arsenal and Brighton, looking at 18 year old Ryan Sweeney from AFC Wimbledon. Republic of Ireland U18 international with two games in League Two to his name.
Won't affect the first team, but still interesting none-the-less.
Certainly, if we are to continue leveraging our academy, we'll need to continue stocking it with players from this age group. I have no idea if this player is worthy of the two or three lines of rumor or not but, we should certainly continue to see Fulham signing youth players. That is my hope anyway.
Besitkas the latest team to be linked with Mitroglou
After reports of Fenerbahce leading the way for the signature of Mitroglou, followed by Udinese and Saasuolo showing an interest, Besitkas are the latest club to be linked. Besitkas signed Demba Ba from Chelsea last season and after scoring 27 goals in all competitions, Shanghai Shenua are rumoured to be tempting Besitkas to sell Ba with a bid in excess of EU 12 million.
With Besitkas likely to sell with an offer of that size, it means they're currently on the look out for a centre forward and Turkish press are this morning reporting that Besitkas have turned to Mitroglou as Ba's replacement. The reports are stating that Fulham are trying to recoup as much of the alleged GBP 12 million we paid for Mitroglou as possible, but that we are open to loan offers. With a loan fee of EU 2.5 million mentioned, it will help chip away at the sizeable transfer fee paid and also remove his wages from our books.
One thing is for certain, with so many clubs now linked, it looks like Mitroglou wont be with Fulham this coming season and if we can get a transfer fee anywhere near what we paid for him, it would be best for all parties if he moved on permanently. After just 3 appearances and no goals, our record signing has proved to be disastrous signing for the club.
- See more at: http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/besitkas-the-latest-suitors-for-mitroglou-13-605.html?#sthash.Cgx1gNnd.dpuf (http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/besitkas-the-latest-suitors-for-mitroglou-13-605.html?#sthash.Cgx1gNnd.dpuf)
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 22, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
Besitkas the latest team to be linked with Mitroglou
After reports of Fenerbahce leading the way for the signature of Mitroglou, followed by Udinese and Saasuolo showing an interest, Besitkas are the latest club to be linked. Besitkas signed Demba Ba from Chelsea last season and after scoring 27 goals in all competitions, Shanghai Shenua are rumoured to be tempting Besitkas to sell Ba with a bid in excess of EU 12 million.
With Besitkas likely to sell with an offer of that size, it means they're currently on the look out for a centre forward and Turkish press are this morning reporting that Besitkas have turned to Mitroglou as Ba's replacement. The reports are stating that Fulham are trying to recoup as much of the alleged GBP 12 million we paid for Mitroglou as possible, but that we are open to loan offers. With a loan fee of EU 2.5 million mentioned, it will help chip away at the sizeable transfer fee paid and also remove his wages from our books.
One thing is for certain, with so many clubs now linked, it looks like Mitroglou wont be with Fulham this coming season and if we can get a transfer fee anywhere near what we paid for him, it would be best for all parties if he moved on permanently. After just 3 appearances and no goals, our record signing has proved to be disastrous signing for the club.
- See more at: http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/besitkas-the-latest-suitors-for-mitroglou-13-605.html?#sthash.Cgx1gNnd.dpuf (http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/besitkas-the-latest-suitors-for-mitroglou-13-605.html?#sthash.Cgx1gNnd.dpuf)
Sampdoria are also now interested in signing Mitro
We may get a decent fee out of mitro at this rate. Maybe it is time we start to act like he is part of our plans so we can drive the price up.
Hoping the club are after a strong cdm which we never replaced when etuhu left -> diagouraga
Hopefully We get rid of amorebeita and find a replacement to play alongside Bodurov/Hutchinson -> Tom Lees
Husband To fill the left back spot
A striker to play alongside Mccormack presuming we get money in for Mitroglou -> Vydra/Rhodes
Also hoping the Tom Cairney deal goes through.
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
Just seen Matt Lowton has joined Burnley. There's a missed opportunity if ever there was one
Stek to southampton
Stek has officially gone to Southampton. On their website.
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
All quiet on the Cairney front
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Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
Why not? We have the money.We have the location. We have the infra structure. Just need to convince him we have the ambition. That is the only downer.
Quote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
I don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!
The Twitterverse is a circle of nothing. Somebody posts something and it is repeated as fact. Then somebody else says something different and it is repeated as fact. The same people who said yesterday that Cariney was having a medical and all will be agreed are now saying Fulham have shown an interest in Cairney. So the answer is enjoy the Twitterverse but don't believe it.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 23, 2015, 11:21:28 AM
The Twitterverse is a circle of nothing. Somebody posts something and it is repeated as fact. Then somebody else says something different and it is repeated as fact. The same people who said yesterday that Cariney was having a medical and all will be agreed are now saying Fulham have shown an interest in Cairney. So the answer is enjoy the Twitterverse but don't believe it.
Agree, I relay Twitter sometimes but it has to be taken with a pinch of salt
Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 11:08:34 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2015, 10:14:56 AM
Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
Why not? We have the money.We have the location. We have the infra structure. Just need to convince him we have the ambition. That is the only downer.
Not sure we'd justify the wage budget, potentially but im not sure for FFP, location, yes, infra structure? Not convinced at the moment. Don't want to put too much of a downer on it but I don't think the clubs past 2 years and current status would do anything to entice this type of signing, no matter how much ambition you pour into people. We're a medioacre mid to lower table championship team and players like Michu wouldn't take our offers seriously. Hope to be proven wrong but this calibre of player is out of our reach.
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Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
Why not? We have the money.We have the location. We have the infra structure. Just need to convince him we have the ambition. That is the only downer.
Offer them Ruiz in a swap deal
Fulham linked with Man Utd Full back Reece James 21.
Fulham are among a number of clubs linked with a loan move for Manchester United full-back Reece James.
The 21 year-old spent last the final two months of last season on loan at Huddersfield Town and manager Chris Powell is keen to extend the loan arrangement into the new campaign. James, who has made a single appearance for the Old Trafford club, is seen as Powell's primary target to continue filling Huddersfield's vacant left back spot but it remains far from clear whether United manager Louis van Gaal will be willing to let him out on loan again.
If United decide that James, who is highly rated at Carrington and signed a new contract in February, it seems that there will be plenty of competition for his services. Newly-promoted Watford are said to be interested in offering him a taste of top flight football, whilst Fulham and QPR are also rumoured to be interested. Kit Symons has little cover for Sean Kavanagh at left back having seen Greek international Kostas Stafylidis return to his parent club Bayer Leverkusen.
Jones, who scored one goal in eight appearances for Huddersfield last season, has also spent time on loan at Carlisle United and Rotherham United in recent seasons.
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
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According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
I don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
I don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
Yep I know the player from spain you are on about.
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
And what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
I don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
Yep I know the player from spain you are on about.
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
Given it has fallen thru who was the player
Quote from: MJG on June 23, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Quote from: jelmo on June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AM
Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
I don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
Yep I know the player from spain you are on about.
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
I heard this aswell ^^ About the Spanish player
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AM
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
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Quote from: MJG on June 23, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Quote from: jelmo on June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AM
Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Too bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.
I don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
Yep I know the player from spain you are on about.
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
Given it has fallen thru who was the player
Wasnt told the name. Just that it was a defender from Celta Vigo and that the player would be a good edition to the team. Didnt push too much more for specifics. Inquired a week or so later as I hadn't heard anything re the signing. Seems the medical was failed. Bit unfortunate as I got the impression that I would be pleased with the signing!
Glad that we arent signing injured players anymore though! Dont want another Mitroglou situation!
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Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
And what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
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Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
I would be surprised if most championship sides didnt make a real effort to get promoted this season with the PL money going up so dramatically in 16/17 season.
Its going to be near impossible to stay up in the PL after that season as the financial gap will be even more ridiculous. (club finishing bottom will get 100m or something like that)
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Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Actually, I didn't say an amount?
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Is there any word on James Husband? I think most of us were impressed with him and would have liked to have him permanently, subject to price etc. I suppose with Boro missing out on promotion things are up in there, I had assumed if they went up we could have made the Amorebieta swap with Husband permanent. Is that still an option, any rumor or knowledge out there?
Apparently the rumour is that Friend is leaving so they want to keep Husband
Makes sense then that it has been silent on him. Thanks!
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Apparently the rumour is that Friend is leaving so they want to keep Husband
Aston Villa bound
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
And what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
I was with you until you said play Jazz Richards at left back. That would be the Jazz Richards that can't kick with his left foot !!! Surely there are plenty of genuine left backs we can look at other than the Man U kid and Jazz sideways pass Richards.
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Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Actually, I didn't say an amount?
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Thats not quite right is it. We are looking at the age group 22-27, that would mean players that can improve. Players like Barry Hayles, Sean Davis, Steve Finnan, shall I go on - think they did ok in the top division.
Rosenior has signed for Brighton. Have to say I would have liked to see him back here.
Our Dembele has posted a positive message on instagram. A photo of him scoring for us and caption of "can't wait for next season".
The same twitter source who broke the Byrne deal also said Dembele was joining Everton on July 1st. Think we can discount both of those rumours as both came from same "source".
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Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AM
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Actually, I didn't say an amount?
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Thats not quite right is it. We are looking at the age group 22-27, that would mean players that can improve. Players like Barry Hayles, Sean Davis, Steve Finnan, shall I go on - think they did ok in the top division.
I'm sorry Stu, but those players were when we were an attractive proposition - we had ambition, money to spend... And spent it!
E.g. Bazza was bought for 2 million, I believe, when we were down in the lower leagues.
We are no longer that ambitious club, we keep being told about 'self financing' - well guess what what.... That really does not suggest ambition in this game.
I think FulhamBen is about the only one who can see we cannot go down this road to ruin. We must really go for it NOW before it's too late and we go back to where we were!
God, it's so depressing - well for me anyway!
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Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AM
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Actually, I didn't say an amount?
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Thats not quite right is it. We are looking at the age group 22-27, that would mean players that can improve. Players like Barry Hayles, Sean Davis, Steve Finnan, shall I go on - think they did ok in the top division.
I'm sorry Stu, but those players were when we were an attractive proposition - we had ambition, money to spend... And spent it!
E.g. Bazza was bought for 2 million, I believe, when we were down in the lower leagues.
We are no longer that ambitious club, we keep being told about 'self financing' - well guess what what.... That really does not suggest ambition in this game.
I think FulhamBen is about the only one who can see we cannot go down this road to ruin. We must really go for it NOW before it's too late and we go back to where we were!
God, it's so depressing - well for me anyway!
Just have a bit of faith. I am aware of about 8 targets, many of which are excellent players. We can't just spend spend spend or we will get a transfer embargo the same as Blackburn and a few other have. There is no way we would build a state of the art new Riverside Stand that will totally outdo the ground development Alfayed carried out if we had no ambition. It will take us time, your right we will not throw money around like we did with Mitroglue and a few others, however we will re-build the team and it will get better. We did not come straight through the Championship under Alfayed either, we had a crap season under Bracewell, remember that. Remember Wilkins the crab. Alfayed was wonderful for Fulham, however it was not instant, pretty quick granted, however he did not always get it right and I am certain he wanted to move us our of Craven Cottage. Remember the original ground schemes, they did not happen either ! We are more of an attractive club now we have just had 13 years in the Premier league. Khan will do it his way, he has learned a tough lesson the last 2 seasons and has a much better idea of what it will take. Spending a fortune got QPR relegated twice and they have learned as well. As said, keep the faith mate - COYW
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And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
And what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
I was with you until you said play Jazz Richards at left back. That would be the Jazz Richards that can't kick with his left foot !!! Surely there are plenty of genuine left backs we can look at other than the Man U kid and Jazz sideways pass Richards.
That wasn't my solution, but a solution, rather than loaning someone who would just leave. It was just an example of something we could do that would better and more beneficial for the football club in the long run than a loan move for a kid that'll use us as his next step.
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And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
And what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
I was with you until you said play Jazz Richards at left back. That would be the Jazz Richards that can't kick with his left foot !!! Surely there are plenty of genuine left backs we can look at other than the Man U kid and Jazz sideways pass Richards.
That wasn't my solution, but a solution, rather than loaning someone who would just leave. It was just an example of something we could do that would better and more beneficial for the football club in the long run than a loan move for a kid that'll use us as his next step.
im with you on not wanting loans. but we need specialised players in every position. especially defence where we are so weak.
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Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Do you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Actually, I didn't say an amount?
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Firstly, I wasn't saying that you did say an amount, but it is insane if you were to believe that we could spend £4m on a position we don't need to strengthen without selling. A transfer embargo is a very real thing in this division with the strict nature of the Financial Fair Play rules in this division. It eases from 2016 I believe, where losses are £15m over a three year period, whereas this season it's a loss between £3m-£8m, trusting the owner inject equity in order to cover the loss. A loss over £8m means that you face an embargo (trusting you are not promoted) until the club can demonstrate that it's on the right track to recording acceptable losses (under £8m). £4m, getting back onto the actual point, is too much to pay for a player we don't need without selling to waver that. My point was, we could budget £4m for a centre back because we need a centre back.
Back to your other point, Bournemouth were promoted with relative ease and beauty, with a squad that was largely without Premier League experience; I think their squad is around the 100 games mark.
We've been linked with players that have Championship experience and know how of English football that will also help our squad become more solid and balanced. The players that we've been linked with also are of pleasing ages in that they can improve, develop and can become sellable assets - as opposed to the previous plan of 30 year olds in the winding down phase of their career. There's no point talking about a Premier League rebuild until we are in a position to do so; but the financial restrictions in the Premier League are less stern, as well as the financial benefits of being in the division being so much higher. Factor in Shahid Khan's worth and desperation for us to remain a Premier League club, then there's no need to worry - the hardest part is getting there.
So, to summarise, we're not in a position to spend £4m on a position that we don't need to improve, especially on a player that's had recent injury problems. Should we sell Bryan Ruiz, Fernando Amorebieta and Kostas Mitroglou, then we can look at discussing £4m on a striker, but previous isn't something that should come into the context of a transfer discussion. We learned from Roy Hodgson that you don't need to have the best players to have a good team. Bournemouth did not need to have the best players to have a good team. Burnley did not need the best players to have a good team. Leicester City did not need to have the best players to have a good team. We're building a team and a squad, not just putting some good players to give which failed miserably under Martin Jol - there was no logic in the moulding of the squad despite the financial restraints of Al Fayed preparing to sell, but that's a whole different issue.
If you feel different, then fine, great. But we simply can't spend money willy nilly in this division.
Here here FPT
The FFP regulations should be easy for Fulham to get round. Man City manage it with little problem.
I look forward to the opening of the new Flex-N-Gate Car Bumpers stand. The naming rights of which were sold to Khan's company for £20m a year.
if united are loking to let Lingard go then he owuld be a good signing in my opinion, even on loan. Not syaing they ar ejust syaing I like the look of him. I am also hoping that Larnell Cole gets a crack this season, he is rapid and oculd be the answer out wide for us
: Brighton have signed Israel international forward Tomer Hemed from Almeria for an undisclosed fee on a three-year deal.
Samuel Eto'o signed for Antalyaspor
Eto'o is so painfully average now, I wouldn't worry about not getting him, especially as his wage demands would be astronomical and he looks to have an attitude problem.
Thought I'd go over to a popular Blackburn Rovers forum to see if there's any news/opinions on Cairney. All speculation, but thought I'd share this from a few hours ago, today:
"Just been told Cairney has definitely gone..."
"can you say where this comes from? I read somewhere (online, might have been RoversMad or the LT) that a bloke from Selby (where Cairney's family are from) was saying that Cairney had been telling the Selby locals that he wanted a move to Fulham and was pushing for it. Probably complete hogwash but a wage rise and a move to west London could appeal to a young lad. If he doesn't want to stay then no point keeping him really. "
"The source where the news has come from is (in my opinion) solid. If I post specifics about it then it wouldn't be fair to the source... Sorry, it's vague and some might not appreciate that but just trying to pass on info..."
Obviously no way to verify this, but thought some might be interested here.. I really hope we pull this one off.
Here's the thread btw: http://www.brfcc.com/mb/index.php/topic/30543-transfer-talk-part-2/page-22 (http://www.brfcc.com/mb/index.php/topic/30543-transfer-talk-part-2/page-22)
Cairney stuff everywhere, the stuff I lifted was from pg 21-22
So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
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So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
Mr. MJG, You seem to have a fair handle on at least some of Fulham's transfer targets/intentions. With that notion in mind, I was wondering if you had the impression that the staff see the team in a similar way to what the supporters do. By that I mean, are the areas of weakness that we complained about, seemingly week in and week out, during the season aligning with what you hear from your sources as being addressed during this window? Are there positions which some or all of us complain about that the club feel are well covered and not a concern?
I'm keeping my questions very general in hopes that they can be answered. If you want to give a bit more detail (a particular field position as an example) I'd welcome whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
Just trying to find something Fulham (present day) to talk about while we wait.
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Quote from: MJG on June 25, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
Mr. MJG, You seem to have a fair handle on at least some of Fulham's transfer targets/intentions. With that notion in mind, I was wondering if you had the impression that the staff see the team in a similar way to what the supporters do. By that I mean, are the areas of weakness that we complained about, seemingly week in and week out, during the season aligning with what you hear from your sources as being addressed during this window? Are there positions which some or all of us complain about that the club feel are well covered and not a concern?
I'm keeping my questions very general in hopes that they can be answered. If you want to give a bit more detail (a particular field position as an example) I'd welcome whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
Just trying to find something Fulham (present day) to talk about while we wait.
I think its fair to say the club see things just as we all do. Mistakes were made last season and in the end we survived and then Rigg and everyone involved has reviewed the squad for its strengths and weaknesses.
I'm confident that plans have/are being laid down for every position, not only for this season but the following years as well.
Khan wants top six at least and dont believe anyone who says different. They will try within the boundaries they have to bring players in (with experience as we have seen) who fit the bill. Some might think the club just wing it (and at times its looked like that) but I'm not so sure thats the case this time.
So if your asking me do they know they need a CB? then yes they know. Do we need a midfielder or two? Yes as we can see from who we are linked with.
Its a case really of lets wait and see and all try and have a bit more patience.
17:51 CAIRNEY AT FULHAM
Sticking with Blackburn, Sky sources also understand midfielder Tom Cairney is having a medical with Fulham this afternoon.
The 24-year-old Scot is likely to cost Fulham between £3.5million and £4million.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
For my first post I figure I might as well be ambitious here, but I would love to see us try and sign Bakary Sako (again). He is a perfect fit for the championship and has shown with Wolves how good he is, so if we want to get promoted I really think we should break the bank for him because he brings quality and experience, and is superior to what we already have.
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 25, 2015, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 25, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
Mr. MJG, You seem to have a fair handle on at least some of Fulham's transfer targets/intentions. With that notion in mind, I was wondering if you had the impression that the staff see the team in a similar way to what the supporters do. By that I mean, are the areas of weakness that we complained about, seemingly week in and week out, during the season aligning with what you hear from your sources as being addressed during this window? Are there positions which some or all of us complain about that the club feel are well covered and not a concern?
I'm keeping my questions very general in hopes that they can be answered. If you want to give a bit more detail (a particular field position as an example) I'd welcome whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
Just trying to find something Fulham (present day) to talk about while we wait.
I think its fair to say the club see things just as we all do. Mistakes were made last season and in the end we survived and then Rigg and everyone involved has reviewed the squad for its strengths and weaknesses.
I'm confident that plans have/are being laid down for every position, not only for this season but the following years as well.
Khan wants top six at least and dont believe anyone who says different. They will try within the boundaries they have to bring players in (with experience as we have seen) who fit the bill. Some might think the club just wing it (and at times its looked like that) but I'm not so sure thats the case this time.
So if your asking me do they know they need a CB? then yes they know. Do we need a midfielder or two? Yes as we can see from who we are linked with.
Its a case really of lets wait and see and all try and have a bit more patience.
Thanks for that.
I just hope that within the confines of FFP and our club's "sustainability" we are able to create an atmosphere of true competition for minutes in the majority of positions. There are very few from last season's squad who truly merit a starting place outright in the coming one. I figure Betts and McCormack only. I would say Scotty but, I think his age requires him to be only a 60 minute man in order to complete a full season healthy. That probably opens his position a bit to competition as it should. I'd love for us to get a young strong #6 to protect the back line. With Cairney, I think we have the makings of a midfield that can begin to create better chances for our forwards.
Time to begin presenting defenders.
This off season is starting to look up.
That moment when you realise BIlly Bob on football rumours got Cairney, Pringle, and Lonergan right. And his new source may actually be legit ....
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That moment when you realise BIlly Bob on football rumours got Cairney, Pringle, and Lonergan right. And his new source may actually be legit ....
That moment when you get that one last tweet at the end of the transfer window say: "Ha! I'm only 6 and making this stuff up as I go. So long suckers!"
Nothing going on so far today so went back through the silly season thread and thought I'd post all the players the papers have linked us to thus far (who're still available [I think!]).
GKs: David Marshall, Carl Ikeme, Rob Elliot
CBs: Philip Senderos, Stearman, Tarkowski, Matt Mills, Tom Lees, Ryan Sweeney, Lewis Dunk
Fullbacks: Jazz Richards, Reece James, Renny Smith, Nathan Byrne
CMs (inc. DM/CAM): O'Hara, Joey Barton, Jonjo Shelvey, Didier Digard, Dele Alli, Toumani Diagouraga, Kevin McDonald, Jay Tabb, Leon Britton, Tom Cairney
Wingers: Demarai Gray, SWP, Paul Anderson, Matt Jarvis,
Forwards: Eminike, Daryl Murphy, Fraizer Campbell, Dwight Gayle, Di Carmine, Jamie Murphy, Michael Smith, Joe Garner
I've almost certainly missed a few, but that should cover the majority.
Fortunately, I think you can rule Joey out.
From his pronouncements today I think he is running for England Football Supremo...or, possibly, Pope.
I have to say, I find myself agreeing with alot that Joey Barton has to say. Especially regarding the FA
Sky sports: 14:56
LEEDS LOOKING AT WOOD
Leeds United are interested in Leicester City striker Chris Wood, according to the Daily Express.
The paper cites reports that the Championship club are weighing up a £2.5m bid for the New Zealand international – with Wolves, Fulham and QPR also reportedly interested.
The transfer market has gone completely mad.
£71 mil Pogba
£63 mil Ramos
£29 mil Firmino ( who)
and the list is endless.
The "big" clubs will get bigger & hopefully implode.
Only 1 club can win a league title.
Only 1 club can win a domestic cup
Only 1 club can win the Champions League.
All the rest will be regarded as failures so the transfer merry go round will happen again next year.
I say get rid of these money clubs into their own European Super League & let the rest of us enjoy competing on a reasonably level playing field.
Never again will a club out of The Six win the Premiership. Am I really bothered about returning to it, I am no longer sure.
Is this a top 6 side??
Bettenelli
Yedlin Dunk Burn Husband
Cairney LVC Bridcutt Pringle
Hooper Ross
Dunk is a solid defender
Husband & Yedlin (Spurs) would offer good pace
Always liked Bridcutt
Hooper a good goalscorer
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on June 28, 2015, 01:47:38 PM
Is this a top 6 side??
Bettenelli
Yedlin Dunk Burn Husband
Cairney LVC Bridcutt Pringle
Hooper Ross
Dunk is a solid defender
Husband & Yedlin (Spurs) would offer good pace
Always liked Bridcutt
Hooper a good goalscorer
Husband is a non starter as Friend will be off.
Regardless it's an excellent team. If a tad unrealistic; we'd be looking at far more than our budget to get them, though if we can sell Mitroglou, Roberts, Amore, Ruiz etc than maybe it would be possible.
Only worry is we don't want a whole new team - that's what we did last year and look how that turned out...
We got £3m from Olympiakos last summer for loaning them Kostas Mitroglou, so if we could do that again, it would be fine. It'd be nice to get £1.5m+ for Bryan Ruiz, but £1m would do the job. Fernando Amorebieta, eh, I would like him to be sold but I don't know who would buy him... and I like him. £2m would be nice considering he still has two years left on his deal, then again, he's 30 years old. That's £6.5m, maybe being hopeful? We sell Mitroglou, you could probably add another £3m-£4m on top of that.
Then there's the Patrick Roberts fiasco that has about 5 different stories with different prices. Hopefully it would be more £8m-£10m with add ons rather than £5m with add ons to £10m, but that's being very hopeful. I think the majority of our summer window would depend on these moves.
I do think we essentially need 5 new starters to reach the play offs, though could maybe push with the three defensive players (right back, centre back and left back). The most important thing is that we get our planned starting defence playing together as soon as possible. If we are lining up a 433, as it looks, I would say that we still need a right winger with a bit of pace and danger (someone in the mould of Michail Antonio) and a holding midfielder that can shore up that midfield with presence, but also show a lot of ability on the ball to control and dictate play (Kevin McDonald) with Tom Cairney and Lasse Vigen Christensen ahead of him.
The sooner it's done, the better. Before Portugal (next Sunday) would be amazing, but before Austria (three Sunday's from now) would be acceptable.
The issue last season was more the players were brought in with little logic and from all over the place. Our kids last season needed more players like Ross McCormack to help them through and take the pressure off. Plus, it didn't help that a load of our signings were wasted - Fazlic, Fotheringham, Chihi and Voser, with a load just generally disappointing - Kiraly, Hoogland, Bodurov, Hutchinson. With then Taggart injured all year and Eisfeld then going out on loan.
This summer, we clearly have a plan of the type of players we want and what role they'll have in the team. It's refreshing to see us go through a window with logic and intelligence rather than the chucking together of decent players from Martin Jol or the sheer idiocy from Felix. Our signings will have pre-planned roles and responsibilities of which Mike Rigg and Kit Symons will have spoken and discussed about taking the football club forward with a style, system and structure in mind. We'll learn more over pre-season, so we'll see how it all pieces together.
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We got £3m from Olympiakos last summer for loaning them Kostas Mitroglou, so if we could do that again, it would be fine. It'd be nice to get £1.5m+ for Bryan Ruiz, but £1m would do the job. Fernando Amorebieta, eh, I would like him to be sold but I don't know who would buy him... and I like him. £2m would be nice considering he still has two years left on his deal, then again, he's 30 years old. That's £6.5m, maybe being hopeful? We sell Mitroglou, you could probably add another £3m-£4m on top of that.
Then there's the Patrick Roberts fiasco that has about 5 different stories with different prices. Hopefully it would be more £8m-£10m with add ons rather than £5m with add ons to £10m, but that's being very hopeful. I think the majority of our summer window would depend on these moves.
I do think we essentially need 5 new starters to reach the play offs, though could maybe push with the three defensive players (right back, centre back and left back). The most important thing is that we get our planned starting defence playing together as soon as possible. If we are lining up a 433, as it looks, I would say that we still need a right winger with a bit of pace and danger (someone in the mould of Michail Antonio) and a holding midfielder that can shore up that midfield with presence, but also show a lot of ability on the ball to control and dictate play (Kevin McDonald) with Tom Cairney and Lasse Vigen Christensen ahead of him.
The sooner it's done, the better. Before Portugal (next Sunday) would be amazing, but before Austria (three Sunday's from now) would be acceptable.
The issue last season was more the players were brought in with little logic and from all over the place. Our kids last season needed more players like Ross McCormack to help them through and take the pressure off. Plus, it didn't help that a load of our signings were wasted - Fazlic, Fotheringham, Chihi and Voser, with a load just generally disappointing - Kiraly, Hoogland, Bodurov, Hutchinson. With then Taggart injured all year and Eisfeld then going out on loan.
This summer, we clearly have a plan of the type of players we want and what role they'll have in the team. It's refreshing to see us go through a window with logic and intelligence rather than the chucking together of decent players from Martin Jol or the sheer idiocy from Felix. Our signings will have pre-planned roles and responsibilities of which Mike Rigg and Kit Symons will have spoken and discussed about taking the football club forward with a style, system and structure in mind. We'll learn more over pre-season, so we'll see how it all pieces together.
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Mitroglou didn't play, Roberts barely featured so we wouldn't be considerably weaker. We'd have to replace Ruiz though.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 28, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Well no, my theory is that we swap to a 433, we didn't have Kostas Mitroglou anyway and we drop to one striker so we don't need to replace Hugo Rodallega. Bryan Ruiz has essentially been replaced by Tom Cairney, though again baring the system in mind, you don't need a pure attacking midfielder because you are not utilising one. Also in the post I state how we need a right winger, with Alex Kacaniklic and Ben Pringle, we have two that can also play on the right and Ange-Freddy Plumain or Larnell Cole can come up from the Under 21s if need be.
Up top is where we least need additions, especially if our system changes towards a lone striker dynamic. If we were going to bring in a striker, it'd be my last move of the season, could even been a loan in the separate window.
The facts are, we need a starter in both full back positions and a division quality centre back. Only one team in last seasons' top 6 had a goals against not of a top 6 standard. The same applies to the season before, and the season before that - so on the basis of the last three years, there's a one in six chance that you'll make the play offs with a defence that is not of top 6 standard, as apposed to a 5 in 6 chance if you have one of the top 6 defences in the division.
We don't know what'll happen in the rest of the window, but what we do know is that we need to vastly improve our defence. If there's an opportunity to give us more going forward, great. It's just not priority when we know that Ross can grab 15+ goals, Smith could probably hit double figures given a decent run from the bench, as well as Christensen and Cairney. Then there's set pieces (of which our delivery has improved, bringing in Cairney and Pringle), if we bring in a winger like the quoted Antonio then there's goals there too - but goals generally mean sod all if you're not keeping them out at the other end - we need to become more dominant, but more importantly, harder to beat. Teams need to face us and think that their strikers have to be at the top of their game because they won't get many chances, and fear losing the ball because they won't see it again for five minutes.
So no, we wouldn't be weaker whatsoever and we would not have to replace each exit like-for-like.
Quote from: FPT on June 28, 2015, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 28, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Well no, my theory is that we swap to a 433, we didn't have Kostas Mitroglou anyway and we drop to one striker so we don't need to replace Hugo Rodallega. Bryan Ruiz has essentially been replaced by Tom Cairney, though again baring the system in mind, you don't need a pure attacking midfielder because you are not utilising one. Also in the post I state how we need a right winger, with Alex Kacaniklic and Ben Pringle, we have two that can also play on the right and Ange-Freddy Plumain or Larnell Cole can come up from the Under 21s if need be.
Up top is where we least need additions, especially if our system changes towards a lone striker dynamic. If we were going to bring in a striker, it'd be my last move of the season, could even been a loan in the separate window.
The facts are, we need a starter in both full back positions and a division quality centre back. Only one team in last seasons' top 6 had a goals against not of a top 6 standard. The same applies to the season before, and the season before that - so on the basis of the last three years, there's a one in six chance that you'll make the play offs with a defence that is not of top 6 standard, as apposed to a 5 in 6 chance if you have one of the top 6 defences in the division.
We don't know what'll happen in the rest of the window, but what we do know is that we need to vastly improve our defence. If there's an opportunity to give us more going forward, great. It's just not priority when we know that Ross can grab 15+ goals, Smith could probably hit double figures given a decent run from the bench, as well as Christensen and Cairney. Then there's set pieces (of which our delivery has improved, bringing in Cairney and Pringle), if we bring in a winger like the quoted Antonio then there's goals there too - but goals generally mean sod all if you're not keeping them out at the other end - we need to become more dominant, but more importantly, harder to beat. Teams need to face us and think that their strikers have to be at the top of their game because they won't get many chances, and fear losing the ball because they won't see it again for five minutes.
So no, we wouldn't be weaker whatsoever and we would not have to replace each exit like-for-like.
but like you say, thats your theory. id be suprised if we followed your theory. as i cant see us lining up that narrow in the middle again. plus why buy two of the better wingers, if you are going to utilise them in different roles
Quote from: FPT on June 28, 2015, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 28, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Well no, my theory is that we swap to a 433, we didn't have Kostas Mitroglou anyway and we drop to one striker so we don't need to replace Hugo Rodallega. Bryan Ruiz has essentially been replaced by Tom Cairney, though again baring the system in mind, you don't need a pure attacking midfielder because you are not utilising one. Also in the post I state how we need a right winger, with Alex Kacaniklic and Ben Pringle, we have two that can also play on the right and Ange-Freddy Plumain or Larnell Cole can come up from the Under 21s if need be.
Up top is where we least need additions, especially if our system changes towards a lone striker dynamic. If we were going to bring in a striker, it'd be my last move of the season, could even been a loan in the separate window.
The facts are, we need a starter in both full back positions and a division quality centre back. Only one team in last seasons' top 6 had a goals against not of a top 6 standard. The same applies to the season before, and the season before that - so on the basis of the last three years, there's a one in six chance that you'll make the play offs with a defence that is not of top 6 standard, as apposed to a 5 in 6 chance if you have one of the top 6 defences in the division.
We don't know what'll happen in the rest of the window, but what we do know is that we need to vastly improve our defence. If there's an opportunity to give us more going forward, great. It's just not priority when we know that Ross can grab 15+ goals, Smith could probably hit double figures given a decent run from the bench, as well as Christensen and Cairney. Then there's set pieces (of which our delivery has improved, bringing in Cairney and Pringle), if we bring in a winger like the quoted Antonio then there's goals there too - but goals generally mean sod all if you're not keeping them out at the other end - we need to become more dominant, but more importantly, harder to beat. Teams need to face us and think that their strikers have to be at the top of their game because they won't get many chances, and fear losing the ball because they won't see it again for five minutes.
So no, we wouldn't be weaker whatsoever and we would not have to replace each exit like-for-like.
Good points FPT.
Tho, I still think that the defense was poor due to a lack of mid-field cover. You start defending from the front imo.
If the new look midfield can deliver in this respect I think we will do ok.
A lot of teams last season use old-school wing tactics and tore us to pieces with the narrow diamond formation. If KS doesn't sort that we are in deep do-do no matter how many classy defenders we get. The mid-field need to offer more cover for them or they will still be over-run.
The midfield signings are looking promising at the mo tho.
We shall see.
COYW!
I agree with FPT, we seem to be moving towards a change of formation and having two wider men, but not in a 442. Its going to be Watford/Bournemouth style. like these 2 formations:
(http://i62.tinypic.com/s5llia.jpg)(http://i58.tinypic.com/2pows37.jpg)
i like the 4-2-3-1 formation, the 2 offer protection towards the defence and also allows a supporting full back to assist the wide forward of the 3. The 2 Cm can get forward ut ion this formation they know for sure they have to be back helping the back 4.
The other has its advantages too as the 3 central know they have required roles to drop a little, and the full backs have more licence to get forward as we have more cover centrally (assuming the 3 cove the wide defensive positions at these times.
The one player I would sign for Fulham is Ashley Barnes from newly relegated Bumley! I beleieve he has all the qualities of a young Steven Gerrard and likes to 'put his foot in' as Chelsea's [Auto]Matic discovered much to his chagrin (Matic's reaction also compounded the near broken leg he recieved when he was sent off (quite rightly) making it even more enjoyable, for that reason alone Barnes should be an instant hero at Fulham).
Barnes also has an excellent shot and reminds me of Steve Sidwell at his best! Yet does Fulahm have the ambition to attain a player of this calibre?
Barnes might be good for the season after next...
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
The one player I would sign for Fulham is Ashley Barnes from newly relegated Bumley! I beleieve he has all the qualities of a young Steven Gerrard and likes to 'put his foot in' as Chelsea's [Auto]Matic discovered much to his chagrin (Matic's reaction also compounded the near broken leg he recieved when he was sent off (quite rightly) making it even more enjoyable, for that reason alone Barnes should be an instant hero at Fulham).
Barnes also has an excellent shot and reminds me of Steve Sidwell at his best! Yet does Fulahm have the ambition to attain a player of this calibre?
Dont know much about Barnes but not that long ago you referred to him as the next Steven Gerrard and now a few months on he reminds you of Steve Sidwell at his best......
Now I'm no expert but I hope our scouts are more precise on assessing players than that.
I never rated Sidwell anyway so if thats the comparison I hope we invest more wisely.
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10413395_1091547474207260_6391667837668080236_n.jpg?oh=cc36974615ded22a483ea3079f758f7b&oe=562EE696)
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 02:48:50 PM
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
Just saw that too. Nothing official though... **** up from the website team?
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 02:48:50 PM
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
Very interesting!
Thanks for posting that.
Surprised it hasn't been picked up by SSN - O'Hara has enough of a media presence for it to warrant a mention on the transfer centre on what's been a slow day so far.
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 02:48:50 PM
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
appears in two of the photos too
(http://www.fulhamfc.com/-/media/Gallery/2015/First_Day_Back/DSC_0588.JPG?w=942&h=530)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 29, 2015, 02:49:29 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10413395_1091547474207260_6391667837668080236_n.jpg?oh=cc36974615ded22a483ea3079f758f7b&oe=562EE696)
This is the ONLY tweet to say it had been accepted and is a few days old with no collaboration. So doubt it as solid.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 29, 2015, 02:59:43 PM
(http://www.fulhamfc.com/-/media/Gallery/2015/First_Day_Back/DSC_0588.JPG?w=942&h=530)
Bloody hell Roberts actually looks like hes beefed up a bit, doesn't look like a 15 yr old anymore
Having o'Hara with us does that mean maybe we are not interested in McDonald?
As someone said on another thread, Roberts looks like he has beefed up a little, he also seems to be quite happy, but then pictures are hard to read what one thinks.
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Quote from: westcliff white on June 29, 2015, 03:13:24 PM
Having o'Hara with us does that mean maybe we are not interested in McDonald?
As someone said on another thread, Roberts looks like he has beefed up a little, he also seems to be quite happy, but then pictures are hard to read what one thinks.
Maybe we can accommodate both and send Parker out on loan perhaps???
Parker's legs have gone and he has just had a surgery on his ankle I believe. If we can loan him out and reduce our wage bill (will probably still have to pay 50% of his wages) then we can bring in McDonald too... Wishful thinking..
But is it just me that thinks that Pringle seems a little, well, tubby for pre-season...
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Agree we have a lot, wasn't sure where Mcdonald played in the midfield, but if DM then surely a lot of his passes would have been short and/or backwards so maybe the stats are not as good as they look?
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
If you work on the basis you want two players for each position and we may be changing formation, then we need ten of them for midfield and wide positions.
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
Williams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
If we play a 3-man midfield with two wide-men, then that's actually not too many midfielders.
Yes I assume we might loan or sell a couple, but I still think we could do with another wideman and McDonald as CDM.
Although our defence was shocking last season, a significant part of that was down to the lack of cover provided by our midfield. Whenever the opposition attacked, they would very quickly bypass our CMs, and with no cover from the 'wingers' (I use the term loosely as we used four full backs rather than actual wingers most of the time) our full-backs were also under a lot of strain.
As a result, it's the midfield we need to strengthen first, and then move onto which points of our defence are so weak and need replacing/upgrading.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
Williams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
It'll still likely take him a good few weeks to get up to match fitness considering the type of injury though.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
Williams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
It'll still likely take him a good few weeks to get up to match fitness considering the type of injury though.
Of course, but will be back playing in September at this rate.
I can only think we'd be allowing O'Hara to train if we're intending to offer him a deal [provided he performs adequately in the training sessions].
As both he and Cairney are left-footed and creative CMs, I imagine the plan is to shift Cairney higher up the pitch to play CAM (a position he prefers), O'Hara and McDonald (or Parker if he doesn't sign) in LCM and RCM respectively, and Pringle and LVC at LAM and RAM respectively.
So we'd look something like:
Betts
RB RCB LCB LB
McDonald O'Hara
Lasse Cairney Pringle
Ross
I'd be pretty happy with that as a starting formation. Could then bring on another striker for an attacking midfielder if Plan A ain't working.
Although I like the 4231 formation, I'm not convinced Ross can effectively play on his own up front, especially as he likes to come deep. (Think I mentioned this before)
Striker wise we currently on the books:
McCormack,
Smith,
Dembele,
Woodrow,
Ruiz,
Taggart,
Mitroglou
So its pretty crowded in that department aswell (I realise that Ruiz and Mitroglou probably wont stay)
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
Williams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
It'll still likely take him a good few weeks to get up to match fitness considering the type of injury though.
Of course, but will be back playing in September at this rate.
That's another positive this summer. Not sure I can handle too.much more of this :p
Doubt O'Hara will have the legs to start for us in a midfield two, even with a full pr season under his belt.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 29, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
I can only think we'd be allowing O'Hara to train if we're intending to offer him a deal [provided he performs adequately in the training sessions].
As both he and Cairney are left-footed and creative CMs, I imagine the plan is to shift Cairney higher up the pitch to play CAM (a position he prefers), O'Hara and McDonald (or Parker if he doesn't sign) in LCM and RCM respectively, and Pringle and LVC at LAM and RAM respectively.
So we'd look something like:
Betts
RB RCB LCB LB
McDonald O'Hara
Lasse Cairney Pringle
Ross
I'd be pretty happy with that as a starting formation. Could then bring on another striker for an attacking midfielder if Plan A ain't working.
id rather play hyndman, and save the money for more important things. the blokes up there with nigel quashie for relegations under his belt.
I generally agree, but it depends on how close the players behind get to him. If the team plays deep I'd worry about Ross being isolated too far from goal. But, in the formation above, if Cairney acts as a provider while Pringle/LVC push into the channels/box it'd be more like a fluid 4-3-3/4-2-3-1.
The nice thing is that we're clearly looking to bring in experienced creative players early, and we have attacking options in spades.
Just need to work out what formation we'll be most effective in and we're set.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 29, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
I can only think we'd be allowing O'Hara to train if we're intending to offer him a deal [provided he performs adequately in the training sessions].
As both he and Cairney are left-footed and creative CMs, I imagine the plan is to shift Cairney higher up the pitch to play CAM (a position he prefers), O'Hara and McDonald (or Parker if he doesn't sign) in LCM and RCM respectively, and Pringle and LVC at LAM and RAM respectively.
So we'd look something like:
Betts
RB RCB LCB LB
McDonald O'Hara
Lasse Cairney Pringle
Ross
I'd be pretty happy with that as a starting formation. Could then bring on another striker for an attacking midfielder if Plan A ain't working.
The midfield looks a lot stronger than last year. Clearly, having two deep-lying CM's should make us more resilient, however, I worry that the team lacks pace. We should consider signing some pacey full-backs if we intend on making this formation work.
Alternatively, perhaps Kacaniklic, Roberts, Williams, Plumain, Cole (or a new signing) could add some dynamism out wide? Kaca in particular needs to step it up as some of his performances were frankly pathetic last season. At this stage in his development, he needs to be - and should be, a key player for us.
Quote from: EJL on June 29, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
Doubt O'Hara will have the legs to start for us in a midfield two, even with a full pre season under his belt.
He's 28 and average 87 minutes in each of his 27 league games last season and Blackpool often used him as a CM in a 4-2-3-1??
I imagine he's training with us so he doesn't lose the fitness he gained in a season for Blackpool where they were chasing shadows most of their matches.
Blackpool were rubbish, but Jamie had a respectable season by all accounts (hence the links to us, Blackburn, QPR and Nottingham Forest, and he's more than good enough to play most games.
He's not my favourite player by any account, but he'd be a good addition to any promotion-chasing squad..
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
Can't see anything on the facebook group?
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
What a massive backward step that would be.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
What a massive backward step that would be.
I literally can't see anything apart from some kids met him at Goals who met him and asked why he was there. If anyone can enlighten me that would be great.
Why would it be a MASSIVE backwards step for us? He scored a lot of goals for us the previous season in the Prem and he adds a ton of experience for us. He's only 32, he knows the club, he can help the younger guys out and he still probably has some quality left as well.
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 29, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Why would it be a MASSIVE backwards step for us? He scored a lot of goals for us the previous season in the Prem and he adds a ton of experience for us. He's only 32, he knows the club, he can help the younger guys out and he still probably has some quality left as well.
Someone sent me through to this group on facebook from twitter, apparently the evidence is here https://www.facebook.com/groups/fulhamfcunofficial/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/fulhamfcunofficial/)
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
i still have nightmares of him lining up next to parker
Seeing as I live in Stoke (and work for them), I'll pop down to the training ground tomorrow and do some snooping. If I see/hear anything I'll let you know
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
Agree with this.
We learnt last year that half of the challenges that'd be reds in the prem aren't even fouls in the Championship.
I'd rather Sid than Scott as our DM next season. But, in truth, there are many players I think we could get who I'd prefer to either of them..
I said when we got relegated it's either Sidwell or Parker, not both. And any thought they will both be at the club together in danger of starting in the same team just fills me with dread.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
32 isnt relatively young for a footballer at all. the decline has started and will only get worse.
I just hardly see the risk of signing him up for just a seasonal contract. Unless his wages are ridiculously high then I don't see a problem with a signing like that.
more options the better. McDonald, Ohara, Hyndman, LVC, Cairney, Sidwell, less reliant on aging Parker
Is better in my opinion than a midfiled without Ohara, McDonald and Sidwell where Parker is going to have to carry a load that his body can not handle.
Also would be fine with Tunni getting shipped out.
I watched Sidwell at a training day under Jol at the Cottage the season we went down. He appeared to be head and shoulders above everyone else in training for shots , tackles, speed and enthusiasm. OK a training session but at least the bloke appeared to care about Fulham - would be much better than Parker.
Jamie O'Hara would be a fantastic pick up on a free, his Blackpool form suggested to me that he now has somewhat of a chip on his shoulder to salvage his career. He's now away from Danielle Lloyd, and if we can get him fully fit and focused, we've picked up a Premier League quality central midfielder on a free transfer who offers us immense ball qualities and offensive central midfield depth. I don't think Jamie O'Hara joining would affect any deal for Kevin McDonald as he's more of a recognised holding player, whereas O'Hara is best suited just ahead, back up and challenging with Christensen and Cairney - where one of those go down, we're back to Ryan Tunnicliffe.
I do not want to see Steve Sidwell in a Fulham shirt again. That's all say on the matter, my stresses were all put down the year we were relegated.
I also like the O'Hara signing as it does not weaken us at midfield, and as FPT has made the case for it has a large upside. The financial impact is that he is on a free. If we strengthen the midfiled without taking from funds that can be spent on the defense....big win in my opinion.
This is now the Silly season thread. I would not want Sidwell back for reasons already mentioned here. Ideally I would like to see Parker moved on too but that is not going to happen.
How many mid-fielders do we think we need in any event?
I would prefer to see us linked with defenders and I am not meaning Brede and Aaron Hughes
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan Tunnicliffe.
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
Anyone who doesn't rate the Sidwell who played for us in our last season in the PL doesn't know their footie, as I do. Or perhaps they were still queueing in the bar for a Balti Pie?!
Whatever the folly, Sidwell is a class above anything we have now in midfield and that includes Parker, who rarely ever looked as competent and determined as El Sid. At 32, one can hardly say he is too old and he would soon prove to be the best midfielder in the Championship if we had the wisdom to admit we (Ali Mack) made a mistake in letting him go.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 29, 2015, 05:26:34 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
Agree with this.
We learnt last year that half of the challenges that'd be reds in the prem aren't even fouls in the Championship.
I'd rather Sid than Scott as our DM next season. But, in truth, there are many players I think we could get who I'd prefer to either of them..
Could be replacement for Parker.....
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 06:21:53 PM
Anyone who doesn't rate the Sidwell who played for us in our last season in the PL doesn't know their footie, as I do. Or perhaps they were still queueing in the bar for a Balti Pie?!
Whatever the folly, Sidwell is a class above anything we have now in midfield and that includes Parker, who rarely ever looked as competent and determined as El Sid. At 32, one can hardly say he is too old and he would soon prove to be the best midfielder in the Championship if we had the wisdom to admit we (Ali Mack) made a mistake in letting him go.
i dont know my football then. because time and time again i watched a fulham team get battered and dominated in the middle. i must have imagined ruiz and berbatov dropping deep all the time because neither sidwell or parker could get the ball out of our back third. ive said it a million times. sidwell is a one touch player. give him any more touches than that and he is shocking. now he did pop up with the odd goal, and good tackle every now and then, but over the season it proved to be not good enough. and dont get me wrong, i like sidwell, but im not going to pretend he is better than what he was.
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
In central midfield? I think we're moving towards a 433 to Ben Pringle would be wide left. If we were to stick with the diamond (of which I don't expect) then yeah, Pringle would be higher on the depth chart than Ryan Tunnicliffe, especially in that inside left role.
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
His best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
His best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
I think he has great potential in that position. Win it and play the easy ball etuhu style. Takes discipline but I think he has it in him.
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
His best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
I think he has great potential in that position. Win it and play the easy ball etuhu style. Takes discipline but I think he has it in him.
Totally agree, maybe a run of games just in that position would help him. Keep it simple is best for him.
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 30, 2015, 10:02:50 AM
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Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
His best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
I think he has great potential in that position. Win it and play the easy ball etuhu style. Takes discipline but I think he has it in him.
Totally agree, maybe a run of games just in that position would help him. Keep it simple is best for him.
These are the relatively simple decisions Kit has to ket right this season. I totally agree if Tunnicliffe has a future at Fulham it has to be DFM. He is not gong to compete with LVC / Cairney / Pringle / Roberts / Williams, even potentially Eisfeld for attacking MF. Hyndman will be interesting. Is he DMF or more forward, or utility. Another player we need to look after for the long term, including getting him on a new contract. Kacka I am not so sure about, I just don't think he is hungry enough. Larnal Cole on the other hand is a player I want to see make progress this season.
DM is where he is suited it is where SAF was going to play him, said he would be their next Roy Keane, shame the didnt have the next Paul Scholes to compliment him lol
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AM
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Sorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
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Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AM
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Sorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
On facebook?
All over twitter, apprentlaly taggart plus 1 Mil for rhodes
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Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AM
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Sorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
On facebook?
On twitter, last night. Absolutely nothing in it
But I would love it to be true, massive fan of Rhodes and Blackburn will sell for right offer.
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AM
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Sorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
On facebook?
On twitter, last night. Absolutely nothing in it
But I would love it to be true, massive fan of Rhodes and Blackburn will sell for right offer.
I just saw someone post it on Facebook....look what you've started!!!
thats funny MJG, I saw your tweet. someone has added taggert and started to run with it LOL
Luke Murphy from Leeds apparantly
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Sky sports reporting that Jazz Richards will have his Fulham medical today with the deal lookin likely to now go through.
We have made a 2nd bid for mcdonald £1.25m
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Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
Just seen this as well. It's from a bloke called John Percy who's a Midlands reporter for the Telegraph. Looks like we're playing hardball as there's only a year left on his contract.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
John Percy a midlands reporter for the Daily Telegraph
thats a good source then, hope we do play hard ball, others do with us all the time
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
£3.5m? Is that not what we reportedly paid for Cairney?
If so maybe Wolves may want the same simply because we have allegedly already paid that amount
difference is Cariney had 2 years in his deal i believe this lad is in his last year now.
Hopefully he wants to come to us and that forces Wolves hand
Agreed Westcliff, just thinking out aloud about how Wolves may have arrived at a figure
Hopefully McDonald's head is turned, Wolves negotiate and we reach circa £2.375m being halfway between their £3.5m and our £1.25m
It would seem there is quite a bit of business still to be done.
The Club website has updated the player profiles and the First Team is as expected (includes Amo and 'the Departed', Bryan and Mitro). The u21 squad consists of just 10 faces, which looks even skinnier when you consider that Rodak, Donnelly and Cole were with the First Team yesterday, Arthurworrey is out of contract but 'still in discussion' and Passley has been officially released. The u18s hasn't been updated.
On the subject of Passley, it seems his misdemeanours were forgiven by Portsmouth and he was in the team immediately after his suspension. He then received what seemed to be a bad injury which rendered him unconscious and out for the rest of the season. Hopefully he is now fully recovered.
Can an injured player be released?
We would seem to need more players although, of course, plenty of the First Teamers are still qualified for u21. Personally, besides being much too old, I already carry too much scar tissue courtesy of playing against various Police sides to be keen on turning out next week.
Quote from: cmg on July 01, 2015, 02:09:39 PM
It would seem there is quite a bit of business still to be done.
The Club website has updated the player profiles and the First Team is as expected (includes Amo and 'the Departed', Bryan and Mitro). The u21 squad consists of just 10 faces, which looks even skinnier when you consider that Rodak, Donnelly and Cole were with the First Team yesterday, Arthurworrey is out of contract but 'still in discussion' and Passley has been officially released. The u18s hasn't been updated.
On the subject of Passley, it seems his misdemeanours were forgiven by Portsmouth and he was in the team immediately after his suspension. He then received what seemed to be a bad injury which rendered him unconscious and out for the rest of the season. Hopefully he is now fully recovered.
Can an injured player be released?
We would seem to need more players although, of course, plenty of the First Teamers are still qualified for u21. Personally, besides being much too old, I already carry too much scar tissue courtesy of playing against various Police sides to be keen on turning out next week.
You can almost see some of the younger ones who have been released being asked back if they have not found a team..just to make up the numbers.
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Given his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.
LVC is apparently expected to sign a new contract - according to some guy from The Sun.
Would be our best signing of the summer!
Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Given his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Given his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Might be just a case of 'just not sure' about him. And having watched him for a while I understand that.
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Given his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Might be just a case of 'just not sure' about him. And having watched him for a while I understand that.
Fair enough Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
Without spilling names of course, do you know of any negotiations w new players that progressing well?
Or perhaps if there are negotiations for new deals w Hyndman, Roberts, Dembele? How would you characterize our situations with them? Maybe I'm asking you to reveal too much. Understandable if so. I'm just getting greedy with this transfer window. All seems to be going so well for us atm.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 02, 2015, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Given his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Might be just a case of 'just not sure' about him. And having watched him for a while I understand that.
Fair enough Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
Without spilling names of course, do you know of any negotiations w new players that progressing well?
Or perhaps if there are negotiations for new deals w Hyndman, Roberts, Dembele? How would you characterize our situations with them? Maybe I'm asking you to reveal too much. Understandable if so. I'm just getting greedy with this transfer window. All seems to be going so well for us atm.
Offers are there, Hyndman has been away but I think is back for the tour so I'd expect them to sign soon, and LVC as well.
As for other signings, put it this way, If you follow me on twitter you know I do a contract list of players, I'm not updating for a day or two.
Extension on LVC and Hyndman would be as important as a new signing. Anyone hearing anything on more defenders?
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
cant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
Still have to get Hyndman, Dembele and Betts new deals.
If we want Dunk, (and we should) we need to make a better offer than that. I cannot see them selling for less than 5m. I would think that a few bottom end Premiership teams will be in for him
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Quote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
cant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
Yep totally agree. Just had a nose on Brighton messageboard, apparently they want £5m, they're saying if Mings was £8m Dunk not far off that.
Desperate for a good centre half,reckon we should go 4m also according to Wolves Stearman not happy with his new contract offer
If we got a new left back, signed Turner and Dunk we may have a half-decent defence for the first time in a while.
Fulham 2-1 to sign dunk
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If we do sign Dunk, I pray that the club don't use the phrase 'Slam Dunk' as the headline of the match report if ever he scores the winner
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 02, 2015, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 02, 2015, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
cant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
Yep totally agree. Just had a nose on Brighton messageboard, apparently they want £5m, they're saying if Mings was £8m Dunk not far off that.
Desperate for a good centre half,reckon we should go 4m also according to Wolves Stearman not happy with his new contract offer
Mings went to a Premiership Club. If he went to a Championship Club, his value would be nowhere near 8 million, 5 at a push if he's as special as some say. That being the case, Dunk is not worth any more than say 3.5, maybe 3.75 tops. Brighton fans are somewhat deluded, they're Brighton not Barcelona.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 02, 2015, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 02, 2015, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
cant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
Yep totally agree. Just had a nose on Brighton messageboard, apparently they want £5m, they're saying if Mings was £8m Dunk not far off that.
Desperate for a good centre half,reckon we should go 4m also according to Wolves Stearman not happy with his new contract offer
If I was Rigg I'd say 5 mill, take it or leave it...
Some of my Brighton supporting friends say he is good but always makes an obvious mistake in every game. 4 million will get him + add ons, Brighton want the money.
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 03, 2015, 06:49:00 AM
Some of my Brighton supporting friends say he is good but always makes an obvious mistake in every game. 4 million will get him + add ons, Brighton want the money.
Might as well get Senderos back in the fold then
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 03, 2015, 06:49:00 AM
Some of my Brighton supporting friends say he is good but always makes an obvious mistake in every game. 4 million will get him + add ons, Brighton want the money.
Which tbh pretty much sums up championship defenders anyway. The question is does he make less mistakes than the current ones we have?
So Brighton fans are deluded because they value a key player highly and don't want to sell unless given good money for him.....What drivvle. Disrespectful to Brighton fans too.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on July 03, 2015, 12:06:41 AM
If we do sign Dunk, I pray that the club don't use the phrase 'Slam Dunk' as the headline of the match report if ever he scores the winner
If we did sign him and the club used that phrase after he had scored the winner , I would be more than happy to see it used every week. COYW
Fulham are considering a move for the Aston Villa full-back Joe Bennett, according to the Daily Mirror.
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The 25 year-old's long-term future at Villa Park is up in the air as Villa boss Tim Sherwood mulls over entering the market for a left back as part of his summer squad rebuilding. Bennett, who joined Villa in a £3m deal from Middlesbrough in August 2012, spent last season on loan at Brighton and Hove Albion, where he made 41 first-team appearances, scoring one goal. He only has a year to run on his current contract with Villa.
The Rochdale born full-back, noted for his dribbling ability and attacking instincts, came through the ranks at Middlesbrough as a trainee and played 92 first-team games at the Riverside Stadium before moving to Villa. Kit Symons is looking for a new left-back to challenge academy graduate Sean Kavanagh for a senior place after Kostas Stafylidis returned to Bayer Leverkusen following the conclusion of his loan spell at Craven Cottage.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2015/07/fulham-linked-with-move-for-bennett/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2015/07/fulham-linked-with-move-for-bennett/)
No news, but I was just over on one of Wolves' most popular forums: Molineux Mix. They're all getting a tad shirty about the potential of us nicking Stearman and McDonald off them, which has made for an interesting read. Here's what they had to say about us in their silly season thread:
"Fulham bid £3 million for Lewis Dunk. Rivals in our league are spending big, this summer."
"I rate both Cairney and Dunk and think that Fulham could be a dark horse next season."
"We will see with Fulham, but at least they are putting out a very powerful message that they are pushing for promotion."
"Meanwhile Wolves continue to dither and give out a very weak signal indeed. If Coady is the summit of our ambitions God help us."
"Selling McDonald would be madness"
"The reported 'offers' for Stearman and McDonald are laughable. Why are they willing to spend £3.5m on Cairney and £3m on Dunk and rate our players so low? In any case perhaps just as well as even Wolves would not sell their best players for such derisory figures. No doubt the fact they have only 1 year left on their current deals is a factor."
"In addition to the contract lengths, I think a lot of it is also to do with their respective ages. If Fulham, for example, were to offer Stearman or McDonald a 4-year deal, I couldn't imagine them having any significant resale value at the end of those deals. In contrast, Cairney and Dunk would be around 26/27."
There's also a thread about their "likely starting 11 for next season", in which Stearman and McDonald are universally selected by all.. Looks like it'd be good business if we could get one or both of them.
No way of verifying this, but I've also just stumbled across this on Brighton's biggest forum:
"Ok, I've been debating since yesterday morning whether to post this here, but my work collegue was off this weekend and down in London out with his mates from down south.
At lunch time that day he says "oh! Viper, I met a brighton WAG this weekend", she was his best friends girlfriends friend (lol) so obviously I'm intrigued and ask him who it was, he said he didn't know, only that he was young, had just had a kid and was leaving in the summer, and we'll try and work it out from there if we can get an out of contract list. I went through all of our out of contract players and none of them were the kiddy, we went on his Facebook and found the WAG in question and it's Dunks Mrs.
He has absolutely no reason to lie, and we spent 10 minutes going through out of contract players seeing if it matched up, we then confirmed it was defo Lewis' by Facebook and thus, we MAYBE stumbled onto some transfer gossip. If his WAG is already telling her friends they're moving, it seems like Lewis wants out.
Don't shoot the messenger, and I've never posted a rumour before in my life (feel free to check), but it's just something I thought I'd share with the class.
Edit: Dunky and gf are on holiday, so I assume my mate actually meant he found out that his best mates bird was mates with a Brighton WAG, which would explain the lack of info he was able to get, you'd think if she was there he'd have just asked outright, so yea, sorry for the confusion. I'm not trying to stir any pot or get battered with abuse, it's just what a lad with no interest in Brighton has heard/told me."
Interesting - particularly as it was in London - but obviously just hearsay.
Yes, I am bored enough to go trawling through other teams' forums - apologies if you're not interested!
Derby have signed Tom Ince from Hull for 4.75 million.
Derby are amassing a strong team. Surely favourites for promotion with the business they're doing.
Front 3 of Ince/Martin/Weimann will terrify most defences in this league, and with Bent signed too (who was actually very effective on loan for them), they're gonna be tough to beat..
Well, hopefully we can get McDonald in soon so I can look forward to MJG's "closer than you think" posts about incoming defenders.
I think the theme for this summer has been and is, "If your name isn't Ross, your starting place is under threat. Time to man up and fight for your minutes."
It could still happen! 079.gif
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Just need to dig out the phone numbers for Kilbane, Koumas and David Bentley and we'll be ready for the new season!
Am I the only one that thinks it's all gone a bit quiet on the Roberts to Man City front?
Hammyend have jumped the gun on the Ruiz deal. They use a dated article. Here is today's website with no mention of Ruiz http://www.abola.pt/clubes/index.aspx?id=147&t=4 (http://www.abola.pt/clubes/index.aspx?id=147&t=4)
What about Scott Malone the left back from Cardiff?
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 04, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
id be suprised if we were. am is hardly the position we need to be looking at
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 04, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
Please no! I detest him and not someone I want associated with our club.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 04, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
Don't really want him and don't think we need him, but - knowing how well he played with Andy Carrol - he could be an effective pairing with Smith...
Can't see it happening though, Kit has highlighted the importance of Championship experience as is targetting players who were statistically very good in our league last year. Nolan would be a gamble, and an expensive and old one at that...
If Nolan signs it tells me big Sam will be our next manager
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on July 03, 2015, 05:42:17 PM
Am I the only one that thinks it's all gone a bit quiet on the Roberts to Man City front?
Until there is a bona fide 'Roberts is close to signing a new deal at Fulham' rumour, I am anticipating bad news.
The prospect of him staying, however, would most certainly make my day. And if it were Rigg's doing, it would confirm just how good he is at his job.
Roberts now linked with PSG. Seems everyone wants him...
Rumour courtesy of Sky Sports Transfer Centre
Quote from: Yonderwhite on July 04, 2015, 12:21:10 PM
Roberts now linked with PSG. Seems everyone wants him...
Rumour courtesy of Sky Sports Transfer Centre
and could go to them for as little as £300,000 according to the Mail
Roumor has it, that Boro are going to offer Ipswich Husband as part of the Murphy deal. Player + cash
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 04, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Rumour has it, that Boro are going to offer Ipswich Husband as part of the Murphy deal. Player + cash
Would make sense after Mings left, but it'd still require Husband to agree to the move. Can't help but think we could try to tempt him back here and get Boro to sell by offering Amore in exchange..
Not offence to Ipswich, but we're surely the more appealing team for next season (particularly if they lose Murphy, we're definitely looking the more likely to get promoted).
Please Rigg, try to make this one happen. Husband's young, English and easily the best LB I've seen play for us in years!
Fulham set to sign Villa defender
Aston Villa defender Joe Bennett is close to signing for Championship side Fulham in a search for first team football.
Bennett signed for Villa from Middlesbrough in 2012 and called the move "a dream come true". However his career at Villa Park never took off and after only 30 appearances, he looks set to leave.
The left back spent last season on loan at Brighton & Hove Albion and played more regularly, making 22 appearances and scoring 1 goal. However he failed to impress during this spell, a disappointing season for Brighton, and returned to Villa.
Fulham have made a statement of intent thus far in the transfer window, signing midfielder Tom Cairney from rivals Blackburn Rovers along with Jazz Richards from Premier League Swansea and Ben Pringle and Andy Lonergan on free transfers. The addition of Joe Bennett, another player with Premier League experience, would no doubt help them in their quest to return to the Premier League.
http://the72.co.uk/30366/fulham-set-to-sign-villa-defender/ (http://the72.co.uk/30366/fulham-set-to-sign-villa-defender/)
Would be very happy with Joe Bennett would be a solid signing
Ruiz set for Sporting medical on Monday
Bryan Ruiz is set to have a medical on Monday ahead of his proposed move to Sporting Lisbon, according to reports from Portugal this evening.
The Fulham playmaker, whose contract was extended last month for the purpose of trying to secure a fee for his services, is currently preparing for the start of the Gold Cup with his Costa Rican team-mates. Fulham and Sporting have agreed a fee – believed to be in the region of €2 million - for Ruiz, who has spoken favourably about the prospect of joining the Portuguese side.
Ruiz, who was close to leaving Fulham in the January transfer window, could never quite replicate the form with FC Twente that persuaded Fulham to part with around £11m for his services at Craven Cottage. The Costa Rican captain scored thirteen goals in 107 appearances during his four years with the club.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2015/07/ruiz-set-for-sporting-medical-on-monday/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2015/07/ruiz-set-for-sporting-medical-on-monday/)
Got a feeling we won't end up with Lewis Dunk. Think the CB who will join Fulham will be Tarkowski
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on July 05, 2015, 12:43:55 AM
Got a feeling we won't end up with Lewis Dunk. Think the CB who will join Fulham will be Tarkowski
anything in that or just a gut feeling
I think Tom Lees is the best centre back we've been linked with, followed by Richard Stearman for maturity and reliability over Lewis Dunk, and James Tarkowski at the back, though the lines are slim. Tomorrow I actually plan to watch the 4-1 loss to Brentford (eh) for Tarkowski specifically, I too feel that this is the move we'll make.
I also plan to watch our Wolves games for Kevin McDonald and Brighton for Joe Bennett. I don't really need to watch the Wolves games as I feel I know what McDonald is all about, but hey, why not? Bennett's the one made me want to watch these games back - as for Aston Villa I can only recall him being awful.
I'm an unemployed student on my summer holiday, I have bags of time!
Quote from: FPT on July 05, 2015, 01:49:04 AM
I think Tom Lees is the best centre back we've been linked with, followed by Richard Stearman for maturity and reliability over Lewis Dunk, and James Tarkowski at the back, though the lines are slim. Tomorrow I actually plan to watch the 4-1 loss to Brentford (eh) for Tarkowski specifically, I too feel that this is the move we'll make.
I also plan to watch our Wolves games for Kevin McDonald and Brighton for Joe Bennett. I don't really need to watch the Wolves games as I feel I know what McDonald is all about, but hey, why not? Bennett's the one made me want to watch these games back - as for Aston Villa I can only recall him being awful.
I'm an unemployed student on my summer holiday, I have bags of time!
Will be interesting to hear your opinion of Joe Bennett as I can't remember much about him when Brighton played us.A couple of Brighton friends I spoke to were not overly impressed with Bennett and were not disappointed that he went back to Villa.They are on the other hand really excited about the new left back they have signed from Wigan , Gaetan Bong, who they think is far superior to Bennett.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on July 05, 2015, 12:43:55 AM
Got a feeling we won't end up with Lewis Dunk. Think the CB who will join Fulham will be Tarkowski
All betting has been suspended on Tarkowski
The opinion i've had from many Brighton fans on Joe Bennett is that he was decent going forward, but poor defensively
I personally would be happy with Joe Bennett as I think hes a decent player. If we get him, we are just in need of a CB DM and possibly a Winger and I believe we are finished for the summer
Quote from: FPT on July 05, 2015, 01:49:04 AM
I think Tom Lees is the best centre back we've been linked with, followed by Richard Stearman for maturity and reliability over Lewis Dunk, and James Tarkowski at the back, though the lines are slim. Tomorrow I actually plan to watch the 4-1 loss to Brentford (eh) for Tarkowski specifically, I too feel that this is the move we'll make.
I also plan to watch our Wolves games for Kevin McDonald and Brighton for Joe Bennett. I don't really need to watch the Wolves games as I feel I know what McDonald is all about, but hey, why not? Bennett's the one made me want to watch these games back - as for Aston Villa I can only recall him being awful.
I'm an unemployed student on my summer holiday, I have bags of time!
why not see if you can find a brentford v brighton game and save yourself some time and get yourself a summer job to help payoff your student loan.
i could be the next martin lewis
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2015, 11:17:47 AM
The opinion i've had from many Brighton fans on Joe Bennett is that he was decent going forward, but poor defensively
I personally would be happy with Joe Bennett as I think hes a decent player. If we get him, we are just in need of a CB DM and possibly a Winger and I believe we are finished for the summer
A defender that can't defend - sounds like he'd fit right in...
Not massively excited about this one, but don't know enough about him to make too many comments.
I just hope we aren't relying on the fullbacks as much for width next year; they're needed to defend (unless we get in some really quick/mobile CBs).
O'Hara apparently having a medical.
Seemed like an obvious move as he was training with us, hopefully it will be wrapped up soon.
Quote from: Yonderwhite on July 05, 2015, 01:58:40 PM
O'Hara apparently having a medical.
Seemed like an obvious move as he was training with us, hopefully it will be wrapped up soon.
Good addition to squad if he stays fit, sober and behaves like a pro.
If we go by the maxim of 2 players for each position ....... Understudy for LVC in no 10 role?
Watched some video from last season on Pringle and Cairney....must say the midfield is shaping up when it comes to creativity. I believe these are both positive signings...especially like what I see in Cairney. Ross should benefit greatly from having consistent creativity on the pitch. If O'Hara is on a free it is an acceptable risk as we have enough options now that if he pans out, it is good. If not, LVC, Hyndman, Cairney, Parker, Tunni, are not a bad group in central mid. I don't think we will have to have Ross drop back near as much to get the ball....we should be able to free him up to be on the end of service instead of having to facilitate and create the service.
Ohara been offered a 2 hear deal
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Quote from: ollienixs on July 05, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
Ohara been offered a 2 hear deal
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If true, great move.
Amazing passing range and he will relish the chance to move back to London.
Outstanding for Blackpool.
For me the ideal window from now
Ins
Michael Turner
James Tarkowski
Joe Bennett
Jamie O'Hara
Kevin McDonald
Frazier Campbell
Out
Bryan Ruiz
Kostas Mitroglou
Fernando Amorebieta
Ryan Tunnicliffe
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on July 06, 2015, 05:06:20 AM
For me the ideal window from now
Ins
Michael Turner
James Tarkowski
Joe Bennett
Jamie O'Hara
Kevin McDonald
Frazier Campbell
Out
Bryan Ruiz
Kostas Mitroglou
Fernando Amorebieta
Ryan Tunnicliffe
Have to admit that's fairly realistic. Frazier Campbell would be funded by the sale of the others.
As for selling Tunners, I hope not - if he is trained to be the Anchorman when Parker retires, we've got a good player there.
Not sure what Campbell could do for us. Not a prolific scorer, stats indicate if he plays 40 games for you he will score 10 goals. Had a bad cruciate ligament injury at Sunderland which personally think has taken away his key attribute pace.
Campbell for me is shot, once his pace went he was no where near as effective, doesn't have the guile to play off the shoulder or change his game. Tunni was always seen at United as a holding midfield player, used there he will be very effective for us
Watford have confirmed the signing of Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue in a club-record deal. #watfordfc #THFC
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
Can't see the source. Reliable?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
Can we have Rhodes as well or is that being greedy?
How do you know all these are going to sign? Or is just pure guess work and hope?
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
Can we have Rhodes as well or is that being greedy?
Never hurts to ask. That said, it would not be an illogical conclusion to say we are probably counting on the sell of Bryan and Mitro to assist in offsetting some of the aprate 8-10 million that the above is going to cost us.
If we spent in the area of 3mil for Cairney, and 500K-1M for Jazz, it would appear if the above is true we are prepared to invest 10-15M this season, which i would be happy with given the obstacles of FFP.
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
Can we have Rhodes as well or is that being greedy?
More importantly, can we get 4 year deals for LVC, Roberts and Bettinelli?
Just read on voy that we may be in for Daniel Tozser
Dániel Tőzsér (Hungarian pronunciation: [ˈdaːni.ɛl ˈtøːʒeːr]; born 12 May 1985) is a Hungarian footballer who plays for Watford (on loan from Parma) and the Hungarian national football team as a midfielder. Tőzsér is left-footed and plays central, defensive or on the left side of midfield. He is known for his impressive free-kick abilities.
I don't know how reliable this is but he would be a good signing i.m.o?
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Where o where are all the moaners who said Khan wouldn't spend?
The way things are going the only three starters from last year who'll sneak in a start are LVC, Ross and Betts.
If wiki says it then it must be true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bennett_(footballer)
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If wiki says it then it must be true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bennett_(footballer)
Doh! fp.gif :005:
Bag/Cat or not? As Wiki can be edited, it's just an extra rumour.
Funnily enough, if you read the bit about his 'Fulham career', it only says
Fulham[edit] Joe Bennett was linked to Fulham on 1st July 2015. nothing else.
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Hats off to those in the know. I still think we clearly lack ambition and these players pick themselves. I guess I'd cherry pick the best players in the championship as well to make it easy with the parachute payments.
Anyone know if we are going to employ any scouts again? I personally think Southfield White is worth twice that of the existing staff.
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Hats off to those in the know. I still think we clearly lack ambition and these players pick themselves. I guess I'd cherry pick the best players in the championship as well to make it easy with the parachute payments.
Anyone know if we are going to employ any scouts again? I personally think Southfield White is worth twice that of the existing staff.
Cheery pick the best players and moan? I'd of killed for these kind of links last season!
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05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Hats off to those in the know. I still think we clearly lack ambition and these players pick themselves. I guess I'd cherry pick the best players in the championship as well to make it easy with the parachute payments.
Anyone know if we are going to employ any scouts again? I personally think Southfield White is worth twice that of the existing staff.
So I suppose you think we should be busting the bank only on reserve PL players?, twice the price and twice the wages.
This is not 1999 we can't do what we did first time round.
I really don't know how any fan can be critical of the route we are taking so far this summer.
MJG any updates on targets that you know of?
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Out as in announced completed deals joining us? or out as in leaving us?
I wasn't expecting any till we return at the end of the week
Out as in out the door
But lots going on with both types of deals. It's only Kit and the coaching team abroad, Rigg is still here doing the deals.
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Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Can you say who you think that we have moved on from?
Thanks.
Improved bid gone in today for Tarkowski, according to Bee's mate, from an ITK on Their forum.
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seen us linked with Daniel Tozser on twittter, my Watford mate says hes heard fulham are in for him. Would be a great signing, cheap alternative if Wolves want too much for Mcdonald
Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Wonder if Dunk fits into this category? Seems that all has gone quiet where he and Fulham are concerned.
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Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Wonder if Dunk fits into this category? Seems that all has gone quiet where he and Fulham are concerned.
j
According to guy reputedly in the know of TIFF Dunk very close to signing
Thanks!
I'm hopeful - and for once, I believe realistically so - that we'll be signing all of those that we've been linked to, though I do wish that we were being more linked to Husband
Can I ask, is any of these reliable regarding Dunk/McDonald? KMac is clearly playing us to get more money are my initial thoughts to be honest.
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Can I ask, is any of these reliable regarding Dunk/McDonald? KMac is clearly playing us to get more money are my initial thoughts to be honest.
Possibly but Wolves fans seething over the public nature of his contract situation, think he's come very close to burning his bridges.
Dunk is the one I'm really keen on.
Reading those jumped up, one good season in 60 years ,delusional Brentford mugs on GPG they think Tarkowski is worth silly money?. When we were first interested "Tarky" too good for Foolscum, now a bit more likely hes not even their best centre half(pre Bjelland)??
Regarding McDonald, I think people need to be very careful with what they say, this paragraph is pretty clear to me '"I've told the manager, if the offer is right I'll sign but that's not been put down, but there's no indication that offer is going to be put down.'
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Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
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Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
We are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.
At least we're getting our business done early this year. Good to see. But I can see a mass exodus closer to the deadline with people complaining that we're not replacing them. The likes of Mitro & Ruiz will never play for us again anyway. Get them out
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Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
We are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.
Something we should have been doing since Roy left......I mean cherry-picking high performers from Championship clubs and developing them into PL players. I'd wager we'd have spent no more money than we did on our journeyman continentals and under performing has-beens (most. not all.) and remained a PL team. Such a shame that it either wasn't allowed or was just ignored as a viable option to running the footballing side of things over recent seasons.
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Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
We are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.
Something we should have been doing since Roy left......I mean cherry-picking high performers from Championship clubs and developing them into PL players. I'd wager we'd have spent no more money than we did on our journeyman continentals and under performing has-beens (most. not all.) and remained a PL team. Such a shame that it either wasn't allowed or was just ignored as a viable option to running the footballing side of things over recent seasons.
Good point Toodles. One of the things I like about the window is that the player we are buying are performers already, but young enough that they still have more development and could be sustainable PL players if we are to gain promotion. And as you say it makes more sense that overpaying for big names from European leagues who may or may not be able to replicate the form in England. The academy and buying proven Championship players is a good way to build a foundation that is sustainable economically and in regards to not having players regress because they were purchased at the age of 30.
Bryan Ruiz to Sporting is apparently all but officially announced.
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Bryan Ruiz to Sporting is apparently all but officially announced.
Good luck to him, he has been a model professional and not one who keeps bleating to the press about wanting to leave. Even though he clearly has.
I hope he has good years at SL
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Bryan Ruiz to Sporting is apparently all but officially announced.
Good luck to him, he has been a model professional and not one who keeps bleating to the press about wanting to leave. Even though he clearly has.
I hope he has good years at SL
Seconded. Hope that Portugal suits him ( the league. difficult to imagine Portugal the country not suiting. )
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Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
We are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.
Something we should have been doing since Roy left......I mean cherry-picking high performers from Championship clubs and developing them into PL players. I'd wager we'd have spent no more money than we did on our journeyman continentals and under performing has-beens (most. not all.) and remained a PL team. Such a shame that it either wasn't allowed or was just ignored as a viable option to running the footballing side of things over recent seasons.
Spot on.
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Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Wonder if Dunk fits into this category? Seems that all has gone quiet where he and Fulham are concerned.
j
According to guy reputedly in the know of TIFF Dunk very close to signing
My information about Lewis Dunk is similar to yours, and his transfer to Fulham is in the latter stages of completion fingers crossed, as nothing is certain. Also Ruiz going out to Sporting is also in the final stages, so hopefully nether will drag on unnecessary.
Being the sad person I am plus I'm on my hols ,I've spent hours today trawling Twitter and all the Brighton messageboards. If Dunk is close to signing for us and I sincerely hope he is Brighton fans seem blissfully unaware of it. There's nothing about him going at all which is a little worrying. Appreciate that these things can happen very quickly but hoping for an announcement soon.
Be a brilliant signing imho. A young English Hangeland
The Sporting Clube de Portugal , Futebol, SAD and Fulham FC have reached an agreement for the player Bryan Ruiz represents the Sporting in the next three seasons.
It was also defined a termination clause worth 60 million euros.
Looks like he's gone. No idea of the transfer fee, but that's a translation from the official Sporting website.
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The Sporting Clube de Portugal , Futebol, SAD and Fulham FC have reached an agreement for the player Bryan Ruiz represents the Sporting in the next three seasons.
It was also defined a termination clause worth 60 million euros.
Looks like he's gone. No idea of the transfer fee, but that's a translation from the official Sporting website.
I actually quite like Ruiz, but I'm so glad this is finally over.
£60 million release clause, how good they expecting him to be
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Adios Bryan...thanks for the special goals, no matter how rare they were.
As above, Bryan's gone: http://www.sporting.pt/English/News/newsfut_eng_futruizdeal_070715_151507.asp (http://www.sporting.pt/English/News/newsfut_eng_futruizdeal_070715_151507.asp)
3 year deal with Sporting. With a €60m buyout clause(???).
I liked him. Will miss him. But €60m buyout - are they having a laugh?!
Bryan Ruiz González @bryanruizcr 1m1 minute ago
Me despido del Fulham por los 4 años que tuve de jugar en el fútbol inglés. Fue una gran experiencia.
I say goodbye to Fulham for the 4 years I had playing in English football. It was a great experience.
Ruiz just tweeted: I say goodbye to Fulham for the 4 years I had playing in English football. It was a great experience. (translated from Spanish). He's a top lad, wish him all the best!
Offal: http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/july/07/ruiz-departs (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/july/07/ruiz-departs)
How much we get for him?
"Undisclosed"...
Rumoured £2m, I think.
Hopefully we picked up £2m for him, add that to the wages saved (£2.3m) and we've got ourselves a centre back for free!
*Lewis Dunk rumoured to be in the £4m range.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bryan-ruiz/profil/spieler/39642 (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bryan-ruiz/profil/spieler/39642)
TransferMarkt (spot on with figures generally) post the Bryan Ruiz fee as £1.96m, so you can round that up to £2m.
As for the release clause over there, they always do it so they have more power in negotiating deals with potential buyers, they aren't forced into selling on the cheap basically.
Clever to some extent.
I read some where it was just over €2 million so around £1.7 million
BHAFC News @BHAFC_NEWS 9m9 minutes ago
Albion boss Chris Hughton has issued a hands off message to Premier League and Championship admirers of Lewis Dunk. #BHAFC.
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Reports of Fulham having two bids turned down for Dunk are incorrect, according to a club source. #BHAFC #FFC (The Argus)
Not sure what the two mean. Hands off then by the looks of it.
says to me we have not bid and they don't want to sell, but than.....
as that's from BHAFC news who knows if it is true or not on the bid front, if they don't want to sell then they wont advertise we have bid and if we have and it has been accepted then they wont want their fans knowing till its done so they can say too good to turn down.
Maybe. We have a few ITK this end claiming its almost done pending no hiccups yet this guy apparently ITK from the Brighton end says its a no go. Strange.
agree very strange.
I am expecting to see a few more outs happening though, we have what 5/6 coming in surely we do not want a squad as big as last season.
Interesting weeks ahead, which is good, I am looking forward to August already
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
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Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
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Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
Not quite as tall, 6ft 4" opposed to 6ft 6", bit more mobile than Burn, more of a goal threat too. Think the main thing about Dunk is he reads the game very well, think Burn has a tendency to switch off ala Zat Knight
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BHAFC News @BHAFC_NEWS 9m9 minutes ago
Albion boss Chris Hughton has issued a hands off message to Premier League and Championship admirers of Lewis Dunk. #BHAFC.
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Reports of Fulham having two bids turned down for Dunk are incorrect, according to a club source. #BHAFC #FFC (The Argus)
Not sure what the two mean. Hands off then by the looks of it.
I remember Blackburn saying pretty much the same about Cainey, and he signed 2 days later.
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Reports of Fulham having two bids turned down for Dunk are incorrect, according to a club source. #BHAFC #FFC (The Argus)
Not sure what the two mean. Hands off then by the looks of it.
I remember Blackburn saying pretty much the same about Cainey, and he signed 2 days later.
I didn't see that. Do you have a source? I can only see them stating Rhodes is going nowhere.
An avid Falkirk FC friend tells me we have enquired about Botti Biabi, nineteen year old striker, raw talent. Reported in Falkirk Herald last Thursday apparently. Swansea also interested.
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An avid Falkirk FC friend tells me we have enquired about Botti Biabi, nineteen year old striker, raw talent. Reported in Falkirk Herald last Thursday apparently. Swansea also interested.
With Woodrow and Dembele with the first team, our U21s are really short on strikers, so this makes sense.
have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Apparently Mitroglou is pretty close to finalising a move to Sporting too...
meanwhile we havent signed anyone in a day
Kit out
Quote from: Walsh on July 08, 2015, 03:55:01 PM
have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Do we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
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have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Do we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
Is this how Cairney is seen? More of a RM/RW than a CM?
Quote from: FPT on July 07, 2015, 11:44:49 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bryan-ruiz/profil/spieler/39642 (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bryan-ruiz/profil/spieler/39642)
TransferMarkt (spot on with figures generally) post the Bryan Ruiz fee as £1.96m, so you can round that up to £2m.
if they got Bryan for 1.7 million that is a steal. In another league he is going to be magnificent. Great attitude and a great left foot... unplayable at times. Too bad he didnt show it enough at Fulham
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have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Do we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
Is this how Cairney is seen? More of a RM/RW than a CM?
played there a lot for Blackburn, which is what I based my comment on
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have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Do we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
Is this how Cairney is seen? More of a RM/RW than a CM?
played there a lot for Blackburn, which is what I based my comment on
but was also allegedly one of the reasons he left
I think we will play the diamond again, Pringle's interview seemed to suggest he prefers playing in the pockets and not out wide. I can just see it now, 4 games in 1 win, 1 draw and 2 loses. Pressure on. Kit goes, diamond goes then we pick up.
Saying that, there was that Swindon lad a RW we were linked with.
Pretty sure Cole is a leftie
I am convinced he plays on the right, did when RM bought him on against United as well.
He could be a two footed, fleet footed wonder kid though
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
I am convinced he plays on the right, did when RM bought him on against United as well.
He could be a two footed, fleet footed wonder kid though
That was my understanding - pretty sure he's an RM.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 08, 2015, 08:07:41 PM
I think we will play the diamond again, Pringle's interview seemed to suggest he prefers playing in the pockets and not out wide. I can just see it now, 4 games in 1 win, 1 draw and 2 loses. Pressure on. Kit goes, diamond goes then we pick up.
even kits not dumb enough to go with the diamond again.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 08, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
Saying that, there was that Swindon lad a RW we were linked with.
Nathan Byrne, very pacy, RB or winger. QPR were supposed to have signed him but that seems to have stalled
Remember seeing Matt Jarvis mentioned a few weeks back, he'd be pretty handy, wages may be too high though.
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Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 08, 2015, 08:07:41 PM
I think we will play the diamond again, Pringle's interview seemed to suggest he prefers playing in the pockets and not out wide. I can just see it now, 4 games in 1 win, 1 draw and 2 loses. Pressure on. Kit goes, diamond goes then we pick up.
even kits not dumb enough to go with the diamond again.
You sure?
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I really hope you are correct!
Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
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Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
I think a few people who said K Mac *wanted to leave* could potentially have egg on the face, "Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 17m17 minutes ago
Spoke to Kevin McDonald for the latest on his future. He's waiting for a contract offer but definitely wants to stay. http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2015/07/09/kevin-mcdonald-ill-stay-if-deal-is-right/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2015/07/09/kevin-mcdonald-ill-stay-if-deal-is-right/) ..."
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
OK fine, I retract my comment, it was too personal. I just get fed up with Ben using every opportunity to take a dig at Kit even when it bears no relevance to teh topic under discussion. It seems to be obsessive.
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Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
OK fine, I retract my comment, it was too personal. I just get fed up with Ben using every opportunity to take a dig at Kit even when it bears no relevance to teh topic under discussion. It seems to be obsessive.
actually that one did, and as it happens I haven't started one kit out thread yet. But hey let's blindly believe that kits management has no bearing on it and it was all down to the players. Still we will have a shiny new back 4 come the start of the season. Oh wait no we won't, cos our only defensive signing so far was here last season Ashwell.still we can hope that the 2 months without competitive football will make us better
From Daily mail:
Fulham are discussing a deal for Eric Fernando Botteghin.
The 24-year-old is a 6ft 4in tall Brazilian centre back who plays for Groningen in Holland. Fulham have been looking for a commanding defender who is good on the ball and hope Botteghin, who has an Italian passport, can fulfil that role. He scored three goals last season in 36 appearances.
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 06:03:08 PM
From Daily mail:
Fulham are discussing a deal for Eric Fernando Botteghin.
The 24-year-old is a 6ft 4in tall Brazilian centre back who plays for Groningen in Holland. Fulham have been looking for a commanding defender who is good on the ball and hope Botteghin, who has an Italian passport, can fulfil that role. He scored three goals last season in 36 appearances.
I can't say I know much about him but its quality journalism as ever given a quick search reveals he's actually 27 fp.gif
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 06:03:08 PM
From Daily mail:
Fulham are discussing a deal for Eric Fernando Botteghin.
The 24-year-old is a 6ft 4in tall Brazilian centre back who plays for Groningen in Holland. Fulham have been looking for a commanding defender who is good on the ball and hope Botteghin, who has an Italian passport, can fulfil that role. He scored three goals last season in 36 appearances.
The Daily Mail are also incapable of doing a simple search for a player, as he's 27. Interesting that, apart from Cairney I think, we seem to be signing and targeting players with expired contracts or with only a year left.
Smacks of tony Khan this one
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
OK fine, I retract my comment, it was too personal. I just get fed up with Ben using every opportunity to take a dig at Kit even when it bears no relevance to teh topic under discussion. It seems to be obsessive.
actually that one did, and as it happens I haven't started one kit out thread yet. But hey let's blindly believe that kits management has no bearing on it and it was all down to the players. Still we will have a shiny new back 4 come the start of the season. Oh wait no we won't, cos our only defensive signing so far was here last season Ashwell.still we can hope that the 2 months without competitive football will make us better
Sorry but what has all that got to do with what we were discussing?
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:50:52 PMQuote from: MJG on July 09, 2015, 08:46:41 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:42:53 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMSmacks of tony Khan this one
havent they all?
No
3 midfielders in the top ten of assists, thats tonys domain
So you reckon any player outside that is a scout then and not The analysis team?
Not the fact that for a start Pringle was the best player in both the games we played against Rotherham and we might get him also based on that?
Things are just not as black and white as you would like(and I'm not just talking about the scouting and signings ) it's a combination of people and inputs that lead to a player joining, not just one man saying buy him. Although I know the conspiracy theorists out there want it that way so they have someone to blame.
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Smacks of tony Khan this one
havent they all?
No
3 midfielders in the top ten of assists, thats tonys domain
So you reckon any player outside that is a scout then and not The analysis team?
Not the fact that for a start Pringle was the best player in both the games we played against Rotherham and we might get him also based on that?
Things are just not as black and white as you would like(and I'm not just talking about the scouting and signings ) it's a combination of people and inputs that lead to a player joining, not just one man saying buy him. Although I know the conspiracy theorists out there want it that way so they have someone to blame.
if we are buying players based on what they did against us then god help us as we made every team look like barcelona.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AM
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Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
I was actually not being critical by saying it smacks of Khan.
It's just a bit left field compared to our other dealings and rumoured dealings this summer. He's a Brazilian, late twenties and plays in Sweden. So quite unlike any other links.
For that reason I'm wondering whether Tony Khan or his team may have unearthed him from say outstanding defensive stats at his current club.
Which would be fine for me.
Groningen us a Dutch club
Quote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Groningen us a Dutch club
they qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
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Quote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Groningen us a Dutch club
they qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
My point was jonnoj said he plays in Sweden
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Groningen us a Dutch club
they qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
My point was jonnoj said he plays in Sweden
yes i was just throwing out some other info too
Apparently he is supposed to be very good and one of the best in their league so it would be unlikely he'd join.
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
Fair enough.
What are the good bits, in your opinion?
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
I've watched a couple of packages on him, and although just highlights, he seems to be up for a physical battle, happy to go with the striker to get the ball - wins a lot of battles in the air, nice passing range.
Not much more I can say about him really, and not a lot of substance to it. Seems to be highly rated in Holland, and had interest from English, Spanish and Italian teams as well.
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
There are some silly comment on here today. Recruiting players is clearly carried out using all sorts of techniques. Sure, the Tony Khan stats are a new one that I am sure we will have used, so will be personal observations in games v ourselves, normal scouting and of course plenty of background research. I can't imagine anyone with a little bit of intellegence will not understand this, so my conclusion to some of the posts is that you are just after a bit of a ruck on-line. Always makes me think how people act one way behind a keyboard and I suspect very differently in a face to face situation. I try and come across as I would if I met you in person.
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Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
wow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggy
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Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
wow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggy
This is all a bit serious for a thread that supposedly silly....
people will have their views on the club, overall the club will do some things well and some things bad, that is down to everyone's own perception and views on how things should and shouldn't be done.
Can we please get this thread back on topic rather than discussing one persons views and another's opposite views.
thanks guys
Quote from: FPT on July 10, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
Yes. I'm a bit suspicious of CBs from the Eredivisie for the same reason as I am now suspicious of 24-goal forwards from the same source.
Quote from: cmg on July 10, 2015, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: FPT on July 10, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
Yes. I'm a bit suspicious of CBs from the Eredivisie for the same reason as I am now suspicious of 24-goal forwards from the same source.
chelseas kezman fits into that bracket too. he destroyed the dutch leagues, and i cant recall him scoring once for chelsea. think we were linked before he went to them too.
Quote from: cmg on July 10, 2015, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: FPT on July 10, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
Yes. I'm a bit suspicious of CBs from the Eredivisie for the same reason as I am now suspicious of 24-goal forwards from the same source.
I think the ratio should be for every goal scored in England, it's six they would score in holland.
Can we please put the arguing to the side and keep this thread about transfer rumours please?
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Groningen us a Dutch club
they qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
Yeah, a 'massive step down' to leave UEFA's 188th ranked club in the mighty FC Groningen to join the feeble, pathetic likes of 93rd ranked Fulham.
if we need to strengthen the right back area, Chris Solley is s decent player, although not sure he would be available.
Besitkas in discussions with Fulham over sale of Amorebieta
(http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/uploads/667103760642931.jpg)
It appears that Besitkas scouts have set up base in South West London of late. Last week they were linked heavily with a move for Kostas Mitroglou and yesterday the Times linked them with a move for Chelsea striker Loic Remy. Now today reports from Turkey are advising that they're negotiating with Fulham over the sale of Venezuelan defender, Fernanado Amorebieta.
The report states that Besktkas president, Rebecca Wood has been in discussions with Fulham over a fee and was quoted a sum of EU 5 million for the defender. That does seem very high for a 30 year old Championship defender and not surprisingly, they've asked for a discount. I'm sure Fulham would be willing to negotiate, especially to remove his salary from the books and it looks like negotiations are ongoing,
The 30 year old defender only played 30 times in his 2 years at Fulham and a move to Turkey could suit all parties.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 10, 2015, 11:14:26 AM
Besitkas in discussions with Fulham over sale of Amorebieta
(http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/uploads/667103760642931.jpg)
It appears that Besitkas scouts have set up base in South West London of late. Last week they were linked heavily with a move for Kostas Mitroglou and yesterday the Times linked them with a move for Chelsea striker Loic Remy. Now today reports from Turkey are advising that they're negotiating with Fulham over the sale of Venezuelan defender, Fernanado Amorebieta.
The report states that Besktkas president, Rebecca Wood has been in discussions with Fulham over a fee and was quoted a sum of EU 5 million for the defender. That does seem very high for a 30 year old Championship defender and not surprisingly, they've asked for a discount. I'm sure Fulham would be willing to negotiate, especially to remove his salary from the books and it looks like negotiations are ongoing,
The 30 year old defender only played 30 times in his 2 years at Fulham and a move to Turkey could suit all parties.
Rebecca Wood? Beckie?
Haha, €5m we're having a laugh...
Imagine if actually received £5.5m for Bryan Ruiz and Fernando Amorebieta! The best I would have hoped for is around the £2m mark. I think Besiktas will try to haggle us if the story is true, but it would be an amazing window if that was the actual finalised figure should a move go through.
Rather oddly GoogleTranslate renders Fikret Orman (the Besiktas president) as Rebecca Wood, I'm sure some linguist can explain why.
Quote from: cmg on July 10, 2015, 02:33:59 PM
Rather oddly GoogleTranslate renders Fikret Orman (the Besiktas president) as Rebecca Wood, I'm sure some linguist can explain why.
Well, "Orman" translates into forest or woodland so that's understandable. Can't find a translation for "Fikret", believe it's just a first name, would be strange if the English equivalent was Rebecca..
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Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
wow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggy
Reduced to calling me a dick. How eloquent.
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Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
because he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
which is?
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
not all things, just the poor bits.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
wow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggy
Reduced to calling me a dick. How eloquent.
Can we stop this please. My kids don't bicker as much as this and what, over Kit Symons?
I am not saying kiss and make up, you are both grown men but at least spare the rest of us the handbags on what should be a thread about transfers/ rumours.
Or I will fine Ben two weeks wages and Block Twig from being allowed in the footie team. Now if that's not an incentive to play nice then I don't know what is......
Any updates on McDonald? It would be a shame to miss out on him.
All gone a bit quiet on the McDonald front it seems. Still plenty of time to get him in though.
Kevin McDonald is in France with Wolves, funnily playing in a diamond from what I've seen - two sets of 45 minutes meaning he should be nice and fit for Crawley away :005:
Portuguese newspaper A Bola reporting that Sporting Lisbon interested in signing Mitroglou after failing to land Ricky van Wolfswinkel from Norwich.
Sporting want to tie up the loan deal by tomorrow which is around £720,000 with a purchase option
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That's a big sum of money for a Championship team to offer. No doubt clauses in there but still, Wednesday would be silly to refuse
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That's a big sum of money for a Championship team to offer. No doubt clauses in there but still, Wednesday would be silly to refuse
depends on whether they want to challange for top 6 though. if they do then i doubt 4 mil is any good to them as every team seems to want to hold onto there best players.
Seem to remember hearing that Sheffield W had been taken over buy some rich foreigner and were splashing the dosh and looking for promotion , if that's the case I can't see this happening. 049:gif
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That's a big sum of money for a Championship team to offer. No doubt clauses in there but still, Wednesday would be silly to refuse
depends on whether they want to challange for top 6 though. if they do then i doubt 4 mil is any good to them as every team seems to want to hold onto there best players.
Wednesday fans saying no bid recieved and its all b@*%*s.
Dunk, Tarkowski now Lees. Personally think a good centre half should've been our main priority this summer.Would spend big on someone
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Caasasola linked with Genoa
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Portuguese newspaper A Bola reporting that Sporting Lisbon interested in signing Mitroglou after failing to land Ricky van Wolfswinkel from Norwich.
Sporting want to tie up the loan deal by tomorrow which is around £720,000 with a purchase option
If this deal does go through and Sporting take up their purchase option hopefully the agreed figure between two clubs is enough for us to recoup much of our outlay on Mitro.
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Tom Lees is the best centre back of those we've been linked with.
Rumours are that Kostas is off to Sporting on loan to team up with Bryan
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
chelsea sign stokes begovic. hopefully an end to their betts interest, if there was actually any in the first place
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
I would hope that 50% of the players we bring in this summer we can take with us into the Prem and the other 50% to be decent Championship squad players who we can move on next season if we do go up. We still have to be a little forward thinking in my opinion.
Nick Powell wasn't chosen to travel with the Utd squad to America. Could be a decent loan signing?
would have been yes, but think with the additions we have made we probably have enough in that position.
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
I would hope that 50% of the players we bring in this summer we can take with us into the Prem and the other 50% to be decent Championship squad players who we can move on next season if we do go up. We still have to be a little forward thinking in my opinion.
Of course you do, and I think a 50/50 call on signings this summer is a good call.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
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100 points to get promoted, 30 million spent in the transfer market to improve and then we were nearly relegated. Just shows the difference between the divisions.
I agree to an extent. If the youth academy is where we place priority, and we buy young players who are improving, we can transition to the PL with less investment and sustain our place there. I do believe we have some young player who are future PL quality. I also think some of the players we are linked with could be PL quality players as well, at least during a first campaign where staying up is the goal.
I agree with MJG on this. You build a team for promotion, then you need to add Premier League quality to stay up. Hopefully we continue to sign players with that certain 'personality' that suits/matches the football club rather than mercenaries of beforehand. I'm holding out for Tottenham not selling Mousa Dembele this year so we can buy him for sub £10m next summer!
In all seriousness, we'd need to buy a Premier League quality spine at the least. We then start building from within once we're a 'recognised' Premier League team where the academy line becomes a conveyor belt of talent through - profit - another talent through - profit etc and if we can have a kid stay here for 10 years then happy days, if not, the chances are we got some very good money or they weren't good enough. Then we pretty much profit in the transfer market every year so we can do more things like the Riverside Stand expansion.
Anyway, weird tangent. Some could go up and develop into strong Premier League players, others could struggle - that's how it is, some simply can't make that jump into the Premier League. Tom Ince has got loads of time, but in his two opportunities up there, he's failed to impress and he here is, in the Championship again. I could go on talking forever (as I usually do on here) but I can't be bothered.
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Goalposts moved at last minute on which one? (And thanks for the info btw!)
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Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
In my view, I don't think the Club thought that our bids on either player would be accepted. I also think we have decided how high we are prepared to bid, how long we should wait between bids and whom we should pursue in the meantime. Expect us to return with a further bid for Dunk and, indeed, for McDonald if Wolves continue to drag their heels about giving him the contract for which he is asking.
Even our next bid, however, may not be sufficient. Brighton will know what figure they are prepared to sell at, but if they suspect we are prepared to bid higher than that, they will turn down that figure when we offer it. This is why we have yet to improve upon our last bid - so as not to appear to be too keen. To avoid paying substantially more than Brighton are actually willing to accept, we have to appear to have reached our upper limit around the same figure. It's a game of cat and mouse and there's no guarantee that we will succeed, but whomever we buy this window, it seems we are determined that they should represent value for money.
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To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
doesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
I'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Goalposts moved at last minute on which one? (And thanks for the info btw!)
Goalposts moved on McDonald and big bid needed for Dunk.
the tinker man is the new leicester boss. could be an inspired move by them
Seen Genoa interested in Casasola
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Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
In my view, I don't think the Club thought that our bids on either player would be accepted. I also think we have decided how high we are prepared to bid, how long we should wait between bids and whom we should pursue in the meantime. Expect us to return with a further bid for Dunk and, indeed, for McDonald if Wolves continue to drag their heels about giving him the contract for which he is asking.
Even our next bid, however, may not be sufficient. Brighton will know what figure they are prepared to sell at, but if they suspect we are prepared to bid higher than that, they will turn down that figure when we offer it. This is why we have yet to improve upon our last bid - so as not to appear to be too keen. To avoid paying substantially more than Brighton are actually willing to accept, we have to appear to have reached our upper limit around the same figure. It's a game of cat and mouse and there's no guarantee that we will succeed, but whomever we buy this window, it seems we are determined that they should represent value for money.
You read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players. We had a deal for one and then selling club wanted more on it. As I said we either go back now, later or move on.
I really don't think we need Macdonald (not saying he wouldnt be an improvement). Dunk is exactly what we need though.
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
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Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
I remember Chris Coleman saying that Saha will not be sold to United.
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Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
Don't they do catalogues every now and then?
Quote from: spikey norman on July 13, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
brighton are hardly our rival
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PM
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
In my view, I don't think the Club thought that our bids on either player would be accepted. I also think we have decided how high we are prepared to bid, how long we should wait between bids and whom we should pursue in the meantime. Expect us to return with a further bid for Dunk and, indeed, for McDonald if Wolves continue to drag their heels about giving him the contract for which he is asking.
Even our next bid, however, may not be sufficient. Brighton will know what figure they are prepared to sell at, but if they suspect we are prepared to bid higher than that, they will turn down that figure when we offer it. This is why we have yet to improve upon our last bid - so as not to appear to be too keen. To avoid paying substantially more than Brighton are actually willing to accept, we have to appear to have reached our upper limit around the same figure. It's a game of cat and mouse and there's no guarantee that we will succeed, but whomever we buy this window, it seems we are determined that they should represent value for money.
You read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players. We had a deal for one and then selling club wanted more on it. As I said we either go back now, later or move on.
Think Tyrone Mings going for a reported £8m hasn't helped.Brighton must be thinking Dunk not far off and Brentford seem to want silly money for Tarkowski too
A LB is more important as we dont really have one. Kavanagh is not good enough yet and voser is not a left back.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 13, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
I doubt Chris Houghton will have much of a say in it, if we offer the right money. Rarely nowadays, that Managers control who comes and goes at a club. That seems to be done behind the scene's by the men in suits. If Houghton doesn't like it, then they will simply work with another Manager.
Owners dictate most things these days.
COYW
Brightions Chief Exec also said they will not sell to a championship rival, but he added a caveat of unless an offer that cant be refused is made
LB. Bennett from Villa. He was not one of the 22 players used by Sherwood last Saturday. Any more on the rumour that he may be coming to us?
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
You read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players.
I certainly tried to read only what was in front of my eyes. Maybe the ol' mince pies are letting me down, but I see Hillingdon asking you whether talks have fallen through.
Quote from: Arthur on July 14, 2015, 02:57:55 AM
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
You read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players.
I certainly tried to read only what was in front of my eyes. Maybe the ol' mince pies are letting me down, but I see Hillingdon asking you whether talks have fallen through.
Talks, did not specify players did I?
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
We need someone with more experience. We have U 21´s of our own.
Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
We need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
We need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
why does he have to be english and young?
We all agree its our defence that needs improving. Bodurov is an experienced player however has not had a lot of football in this country and there are question marks about his english. The other defenders (assuming Amor is off) are all young, Burn/Hutch have had a fair few games, however are early 20s, Grimmer is still an under 21 as is Kav. Surely this means we need Experience. Turner gave us that last season, maybe not quite the standard we would like, however I would be looking at an experienced central defender and an experienced left back. All the players we have been linked with apart from Stearman as relatively inexperienced and young and I understand they meet the profile of player we are trying to recruit. I think we need to go back and get Stearman, or someone similar. He was Wolves capt last season and a good offer to him and Wolves may do it. Wolves clearly don't want to lose him, which can equally be said for the other players we are trying to recruit. This is such a crucial position to fill that it may be worth paying a bit over the odds.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
We need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
why does he have to be english and young?
Looking at 99% of our targets, they generally fit that criteria (or at least British).
I think because Kit wants players who can gel quickly to the Championship and are similar to our current bunch, that seems to be the general type targeted this window.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
We need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
why does he have to be english and young?
Looking at 99% of our targets, they generally fit that criteria (or at least British).
I think because Kit wants players who can gel quickly to the Championship and are similar to our current bunch, that seems to be the general type targeted this window.
wouldnt that rule garbutt out then as i dont think he has any championship experience and only 4 caps for everton
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 11:13:25 AM
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
We need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
why does he have to be english and young?
Looking at 99% of our targets, they generally fit that criteria (or at least British).
I think because Kit wants players who can gel quickly to the Championship and are similar to our current bunch, that seems to be the general type targeted this window.
wouldnt that rule garbutt out then as i dont think he has any championship experience and only 4 caps for everton
But I never said anything about Championship experience?
Being young and English (British) is more about a similar personal and cultural mindset and lack of language and geographical barriers - listen to Kit's interviews and those seems to be important qualities to him right now.
Championship experience is useful for gauging the probability of success (hence why I'd rather Husband, as we can more readily assess his likelihood of success based upon last year) but it's not the be-all and end-all. While younger, Luke had season-long loan spells to L1 and L2 clubs and averaged either a goal or assist every 1 in 3 games - not bad for an LB who's strongest attribute is his defensive ability. He's developed since then but really needs a season to push-on, out of the shadow of Leighton Baines at Everton.
If you've actually seen Luke play you can spot his ability a mile off. I don't think he's ready to be relied upon as a starter for the Premiership yet, but a whoever gets him in the Championship will be very fortunate.
15 Jul 2015 13:33:52
After all the huffing and puffing,Fulham up
offer for Wed's Tom Lees.
Bunny Rabbit
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 15, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
15 Jul 2015 13:33:52
After all the huffing and puffing,Fulham up
offer for Wed's Tom Lees.
Bunny Rabbit
Funny. I would've expected a rumor like this to come from The Big Bad Wolf.
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 15, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
15 Jul 2015 13:33:52
After all the huffing and puffing,Fulham up
offer for Wed's Tom Lees.
Bunny Rabbit
Funny. I would've expected a rumor like this to come from The Big Bad Wolf.
Brilliant...
Josh Passley has signed with Lge 2's Dagenham.
Also, the twitter rumors have jumped back up for Lewis Dunk. Several saying that he is having his medical at Motspur today. Fee agreed. 4.5 million.
LEWIS DUNK
A source at the club (who leaked the Prongle deal) has reported that Lewis Dunk is undergoing a medical at the club this afternoon after a fee of £4.5 mil was agreed last night with Brighton !
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The highest-rated player under the age of 24. The Brighton centre-back has become an integral player to the Seagulls. He made just seven league appearances for the club last season and was on a one-month loan to Bristol City during the campaign, but has been a mainstay this season, starting 37 matches.
The 23-year-old's lofty frame means that he is commanding in the air, winning 139 of 212 aerial duels as well as mustering 29 headed attempts at goal. That aerial threat has heralded five goals from set pieces, with only two players managing more. Only Ipswich's Cole Skuse has made more interceptions this season than Dunk's 129. That only the current top six and Sheffield Wednesday have a better defensive record than Brighton (54 goals conceded) has been in no small part due to the youngster's presence at the back.
http://www.fulhamweb.co.uk/messageboard/8070/lewis-dunk.aspx (http://www.fulhamweb.co.uk/messageboard/8070/lewis-dunk.aspx)
I would so like this to be true.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2015, 04:19:19 PM
Quote from: snarks on July 16, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
I would so like this to be true.
So would I. If my horse wasn't wearing his nose bag, I would gallop down to Motspur Park right now to investigate.
What does a mammoth need with a horse?
MBS have just tweeted...
@MBS_Sport: Rumour at the moment is that Dunk is on his way to Fulham for £4.5m, still early days on the rumour though. We'll see...#BHAFC #FFC
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 16, 2015, 10:49:33 PM
MBS have just tweeted...
@MBS_Sport: Rumour at the moment is that Dunk is on his way to Fulham for £4.5m, still early days on the rumour though. We'll see...#BHAFC #FFC
i dont think that is a reputable source though. only has 750 followers, and is following 2.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2015, 05:33:55 PM
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Quote from: snarks on July 16, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
I would so like this to be true.
So would I. If my horse wasn't wearing his nose bag, I would gallop down to Motspur Park right now to investigate.
What does a mammoth need with a horse?
I was going to give the Horse a lift.
The Horse has had some dessert from his nosebag and doesn't know what it was called. So he has been for some dessert but can't remember the name but it felt good to be out of the rain. With the dessert he can't remember the name but he knows his tummy didn't have no more pain.
I feel if we can not do a deal with Wolves for Mcdonald three names we could look into as potential DMs are Yaser Kasim of Swindon, Daniel Tozser of Watford and Liam Bridcutt of Sunderland
Hard to tempt the second two due to PL wages and the stigma of dropping a league to get game time. I know nothing of the Swindon lad so don't know if that would work but hopefully we are paying the same attention as you are for potential signings.
make of this what you will, but sarah brookes took a photo of the cottage today, so i replied with are you showing new players what they will be playing on if they sign for us. she favorited my tweet. so maybe a signing is imminent or maybe not
Friday is always a good news day
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
make of this what you will, but sarah brookes took a photo of the cottage today, so i replied with are you showing new players what they will be playing on if they sign for us. she favorited my tweet. so maybe a signing is imminent or maybe not
Probably not, she favourited pretty much every other reply to it too.
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
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Do you know something we don't know?
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Completely unfair.
Please say we have an signing coming. I'm starting to get bored!
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
have you seen something or are you just throwing it out there
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Got to be sustainable somehow!...
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Got to be sustainable somehow!...
we are more than sustainable now.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 17, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
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Yep. I have just left MP.
Great post ???
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:45:55 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Got to be sustainable somehow!...
we are more than sustainable now.
If we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Got to be sustainable somehow!...
we are more than sustainable now.
If we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!
I don't think we will but sometimes players put clubs into positions and the best option is to sell. Football these days is such a players orientated game ever since the bosman ruling, so can be so hard for the clubs
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Got to be sustainable somehow!...
we are more than sustainable now.
If we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!
I don't think we will but sometimes players put clubs into positions and the best option is to sell. Football these days is such a players orientated game ever since the bosman ruling, so can be so hard for the clubs
Sterling is a prime example. Liverpool wanted him to stay, he wanted to go, they got a great offer and he left.
No matter how much you want to keep a player, if they want to go and you get an offer that's good, it's hard to turn down. Even for the biggest clubs.
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MJG these twitter rumours about Dunk are they any where near true? I know the deal was off a while back so just curious
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 17, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
MJG these twitter rumours about Dunk are they any where near true? I know the deal was off a while back so just curious
All honesty have no idea. Someone did say something to me earlier which intimated something was happening, but apart from that nowt to go on.
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
so we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
Got to be sustainable somehow!...
we are more than sustainable now.
If we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!
I can't remember if he's signed an extension with us or not. So, I'm unsure of his contract situation. But, you can't blame a kid with his abilities getting his head turned by PL interest. And if his head is turned and he truly wants to leave, then ambition has nothing to do with selling.
If any player does not want to be a part of the process, then that player is expendable. And once he becomes expendable, the club should maximize their ROI. And, in this theoretical situation, that would speak more toward the club's ambition than keeping an unhappy player.
Still, seems like a stab in the dark suggesting that LVC would be replacing Delph.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 17, 2015, 04:26:12 PM
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Man City money is just too good to pass up. He's a quality player. I just don't think he's going to progress playing for them. They'll continue spending and spending on players while they chase titles and fail and he'll eventually be overlooked and on the bench.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on July 17, 2015, 04:26:12 PM
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Man City money is just too good to pass up. He's a quality player. I just don't think he's going to progress playing for them. They'll continue spending and spending on players while they chase titles and fail and he'll eventually be overlooked and on the bench.
and fail? they have been very good at winning trophies lately. i wouldnt mind failing like them
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Man City money is just too good to pass up. He's a quality player. I just don't think he's going to progress playing for them. They'll continue spending and spending on players while they chase titles and fail and he'll eventually be overlooked and on the bench.
and fail? they have been very good at winning trophies lately. i wouldnt mind failing like them
They've won twice since they were bought by Mansour. Over that time period, it wouldn't surprise me if they'd outspent 2-3 of the remaining top 4 or 5 combined. By "failing" I did not mean to imply that they haven't been successful or that they won't ever be again. But, for the money they spend, they've lost out on the title more than they've won it which will continue. And when they fail to win, they spend and spend big. A player like Delph will fall victim to that approach to "buying" titles. This was my point.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
They're in the market for Sergi Darder, Ljajic and they've just signed Gueye.
LVC isn't a target now.
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 08:36:01 AM
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
yeeessssssssss
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 08:36:01 AM
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
Premier League experience, a good leader, won awards for his performances at Spurs and would be available cheap - I can see why they'd want him.
BUT - he's been nicknamed "Mr Crop Circle" for a reason.. Other than spinning in circles and passing backwards, he offers little in the middle. Admittedly he can be the one to get an attack going when everyone else's heads have dropped, but I don't think he's well-suited to the pace/style of play in the Championship - mainly because what's considered a foul in this league is a far higher threshold than in the Prem (so his little circles/drawing fouls to get freekicks is useless, instead we just lose possession).
Still, I would be interested to see if anyone had some stats for results with/without Scott last season - I might be totally wrong and he's the heart and soul of our team!
If he does go, I'd have no ill-feeling to Scott. He seems a top bloke and the epitome of a consumate professional...
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 08:36:01 AM
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
Good business if we can offload and save the reported £70k per week wages
He is not part of our future and his wages will be off the scale in this division. He would not get in my first 11 Fulham team with our current players and the saving in his wages should allow us to pay (what will be needed) to get Dunk and McDonald.
Assuming Not so Superglue is loaned or sold, this would leave only Amor as a player on Premiership wages. A fantasticly quick clear out of over the top, over paid, players that Jol assembled.
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Agree with this completely.
If we shift Scotts wages - and get a small fee too - we might be able to push-the-boat-out and stump up the extra Wolves want for Kevin McDonald
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 18, 2015, 11:05:01 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Agree with this completely.
If we shift Scotts wages - and get a small fee too - we might be able to push-the-boat-out and stump up the extra Wolves want for Kevin McDonald
i dont think kevin is an actual dm though, more like a deep lying midfielder. ie more of a murphy than a dickson or papa diop type
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Quote from: Craven Mad on July 18, 2015, 11:05:01 AM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Agree with this completely.
If we shift Scotts wages - and get a small fee too - we might be able to push-the-boat-out and stump up the extra Wolves want for Kevin McDonald
i dont think kevin is an actual dm though, more like a deep lying midfielder. ie more of a murphy than a dickson or papa diop type
Whilst se have a lot of MF players, McDonald is exactely that still missing. Breaks up play - give it to the offsensive player. Very mobile tall and got good experience. LVC could play this role, however I prefer LVC going forward. LVC has in fact got everything if he can find the form of last season. Potentially an amazing player and alongside Cairney, OHara, Pringle we would have a superb midfield.
Think we'd be sad to lose Parker. Will make one of the best coaches in the near future. His experience, commitment and passion for the game alone pays for his wages despite his legs not being 100% anymore.
What he still offers in terms of teaching and experience is priceless. But, I'd wish him all the best if he did leave. A lovely area to retire in and close to relation, Harry Arter.
If he left, I'm sure he'd get a lovely send off from the Fulham fans. Absolute true gent and the perfect role model for anyone growing up in the game.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 18, 2015, 11:36:53 AM
Think we'd be sad to lose Parker. Will make one of the best coaches in the near future. His experience, commitment and passion for the game alone pays for his wages despite his legs not being 100% anymore.
What he still offers in terms of teaching and experience is priceless. But, I'd wish him all the best if he did leave. A lovely area to retire in and close to relation, Harry Arter.
If he left, I'm sure he'd get a lovely send off from the Fulham fans. Absolute true gent and the perfect role model for anyone growing up in the game.
Well said!
He has always put 100% effort in, but for me unfortunately he is a 60 minute player and as a defensive midfielder last season was not great, although on occasion he did play well.
Unfortunately too many twirls and backward passes. If your midfield doesn't go forward you remain under pressure.....
We can't rely on him being fit, and given his cost I think it's a win win if he goes to a Premiership side
He has been a good player for us in a time when we have generally been really poor.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 18, 2015, 11:36:53 AM
Think we'd be sad to lose Parker. Will make one of the best coaches in the near future. His experience, commitment and passion for the game alone pays for his wages despite his legs not being 100% anymore.
What he still offers in terms of teaching and experience is priceless. But, I'd wish him all the best if he did leave. A lovely area to retire in and close to relation, Harry Arter.
If he left, I'm sure he'd get a lovely send off from the Fulham fans. Absolute true gent and the perfect role model for anyone growing up in the game.
Don't forget that he paid some of the kids fines that Mad Felix imposed on them for something silly
Odds for Dunk to FFC have narrowed again at 2/5 from 5/4 a couple of days ago. For what it is worth....
you cant pay top wages to a player who can only produce in 60\70 percent of a game due to getting older, especially in the championship as we found out last season, a true professional but we need players who are able to perform 100 percent at any given time, keep him as a coach but as a player I think his day has about come. :Haynes The Maestro:
Wolves @OfficialWolves 11m11 minutes ago
Video to follow but Kenny Jackett has told Wolves Player that Kevin McDonald didn't figure today due to being unsettled.
Telegraph Sport @TelegraphSport 8m8 minutes ago
EXCLUSIVE: Man City to pay staggering £11m for 18-year-old with 22 Championship appearances - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/11748547/Man-City-to-sign-Fulham-prodigy-Patrick-Roberts-in-deal-worth-up-to-11m.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/11748547/Man-City-to-sign-Fulham-prodigy-Patrick-Roberts-in-deal-worth-up-to-11m.html)
Let's hope there's some sort of sell-on fee as well. I'd much prefer a future percentage than any potential add-ons.
5 million now rising to 11 million with all the add ons if they happen.
Kevin MCdonald didn't play for Wolves today as he was unsettled according to Kenny Jacket.
Lewis Dunk didn't play for Brighton today.
Latest on Roberts is he forced Fulhams hand by putting in a transfer request. But no more than rumour.
Here's what I'd like to see happen in the next week...
Shift Parker to Bournemouth, bring in McDonald as his replacement.
Bring in Dunk and (possibly) one other CB, as well as a defensively solid LB who can whip balls into the box.
Then, if we still have funds available, a better partner for Ross (though I think him and Smith work well together) and possibly one more RM/RW as backup to Cairney/LVC.
If we can get £5million up front for a player who would likely have hardly featured anyway and invest that in a solid, mid 20s first teamer then there really should be no complaints.
Yes, we'd have liked to see an English player come through the ranks but he wasn't gonna sign a new contract so this is as good as it gets.
That plus the money from Ruiz and Mitroglou leaving means we could get rid of three players would wouldn't feature and make about £10million to spend on players who will. That's before Amorebieta too - not a bad summer if we continue to spend wisely where we need to strengthen.
Also need to get new contracts sorted for a few other of the young players on the edge of the first team.
@VivaElFulham: No Lewis Dunk for Brighton either, not on subs bench too #Fulham https://t.co/WFVzI5mPcx
The latest rumor is that we're only getting £2.5 upfront, in which case, that's a terrible deal.
I can't imagine where the other £8.5 would be coming from in terms of add-ons, but chances are we won't see that money for years if it even comes at all.
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on July 18, 2015, 04:53:52 PM
The latest rumor is that we're only getting £2.5 upfront, in which case, that's a terrible deal.
I can't imagine where the other £8.5 would be coming from in terms of add-ons, but chances are we won't see that money for years if it even comes at all.
That's rubbish. Few figures being batted around, but it's believed to be in the region of 5-8.5 mill with addons totalling to 11.5 mill. Club wouldn't sell Roberts for a song.
Be seriously peed off if Fulham haven't negotiated a sell on clause.QPR just got nearly 9m from Sterling deal.
Encouraging Dunk and McDonald not featuring today
symons confirmed transfer request from roberts post-match
Quote from: NJFulham on July 18, 2015, 05:25:41 PM
symons confirmed transfer request from roberts post-match
Is that after he wasn't picked again for a match
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symons confirmed transfer request from roberts post-match
Is that after he wasn't picked again for a match
Slight correction. It was after he didn't want to be selected again for a match. He's wanted out for some time now. Else that offer that we put in front of him would have been signed by now.
Patrick Roberts is in Manchester as we speak, rumour (with good source) also has it that he asked not to be played against Aston Villa. Kit Symons has spoke about how he sat and down and spoke with Patrick and his parents but their mind was already made up. As far as I'm concerned it's see you down the road and arrivederci. We're getting a good deal considering he's unproven and with a year left on his contract, we've got more than Charlton did for Joe Gomez and he was already a very valuable member of their first team squad putting in good performances. I'm not too bothered by a sell on clause, it's Manchester City, who are they going to sell him to? If they sell him, it'll be a move downwards where he's not been good enough and cost something like £10m, by which we'll hopefully be back in the Premier League so the money would be nice but not amazing. What is the further pathway where we'd get money? Unless he were to move to Real Madrid or Barcelona, it's not that big a deal to me so I'd rather take a little more up front.
Look at Porto or Benfica and the amazing profits they make in the transfer window. In a way, selling Patrick Roberts to Manchester City justifies our academy - our youngsters should be funding our transfer windows and our football club. In time, we'll be back into the Premier League, in time we can be a better looking club to offer longer contracts, and in time selling one youngster could pay for a window, or pay for the stand extension, or pay for better academy facilities, or pay for something new at the training ground - all whilst maintaining ourselves as a Premier League team playing some good quality football. Southampton never saw the best of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, the best of Theo Walcott, the best of Luke Shaw, the best of Gareth Bale or the best of Calum Chambers.
One day it'll all make sense, this will not hurt us whatsoever. In a league with strict Financial Fair Play rules, we need to watch the pennies - we will make nowhere near as much out of this new sponsorship deal as we did with MarathonBet. Our TV money is always dropping, we're making fractions of what we were used to. Patrick Roberts and Bryan Ruiz's sales for £6m together will pay for our current window. Blackburn are under embargo, that is a very real threat for us and others.
Patrick Roberts is not all we have. We have Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele, Cauley Woodrow, George Williams, Dan Burn, Jack Grimmer, Sean Kavanagh, Cameron Burgess, Liam Donnelly, Marcus Bettinelli, Lasse Vigen Christensen and then, Marek Rodak, Luca De La Torre, Tayo Edun, Ryheem Sheckleford, Aron Davies, Josh Smile, Mattias Kait, Stephen Humprhys and Ange Freddy Plumain.
Be happy with what we are and be happy that our academy work is finally going to be in the limelight as these kids will either star for us, star in the lower divisions or star at the top level. We've gone from a day of Wayne Brown and Rob Milsom to a kid being bought by one of the biggest clubs for multimillions. It's not doom and gloom, and I don't know how you couldn't understand the business sense oft this.
In a way, selling Patrick Roberts to Manchester City justifies our academy - our youngsters should be funding our transfer windows and our football club.
Quite right FTP, its a hard hearted business decision
Roberts will pave the way for many more
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 18, 2015, 06:46:05 PM
In a way, selling Patrick Roberts to Manchester City justifies our academy - our youngsters should be funding our transfer windows and our football club.
Quite right FTP, its a hard hearted business decision
Roberts will pave the way for many more
surely a youngsters should be playing for us so that we dont have to gamble money on signings
Roberts for Dunk and McDonald ?
If so sounds good to me
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The way I see it, 11mill from Roberts could be spent like this
4 mill on dunk, 500k on Joe Bennett and 2.5mill for Mitroglous wage next season (Mitroglou will take us up mark my words.) . The rest can be spent tying down Hyndman and Dembele to long term deals and on the academy
I like both previous comments, if its going to get is up and show roberts what he will be missing then see you roberts
Quote from: Riverside on July 18, 2015, 07:32:54 PM
Roberts for Dunk and McDonald ?
If so sounds good to me
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so good that city have gone for them instead.
Also it's 5m plus extras, so let's not spend the six we don't have
I hope it doesn´t put ideas in the heads of our other youngsters.
for me we now need to sit down and be talking to the others and getting them to extend
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 07:51:17 PM
I hope it doesn´t put ideas in the heads of our other youngsters.
I hope it puts the idea into the clubs head that any good young talent aren't left to the last year to talk contract extensions
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Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 07:51:17 PM
I hope it doesn´t put ideas in the heads of our other youngsters.
I hope it puts the idea into the clubs head that any good young talent aren't left to the last year to talk contract extensions
Sometimes because of the rules with regards contracts that can't be helped.
I've explained before why Roberts, Dembele and Hyndman only had a year left and in the end you can't force a player of any age to sign on the dotted line.
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17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
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17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this . Source?
Where would they play? I know depth is important, but that would be a lot of central players signed this summer with even more from last season when we apparently want to play 4-4-2.
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17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this so much . Source?
a 33 year old midfielder and a winger. would prefer some defenders
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17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this so much . Source?
a 33 year old midfielder and a winger. would prefer some defenders
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17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this so much . Source?
a 33 year old midfielder and a winger. would prefer some defenders
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am i missing something or are you happy to spend more of the budget on our already strong positions?
Fair enough, Defenders are the priority, but both good players nonetheless
If true then Roberts can go and ruin his career as a bench boy! (Ruin being a sub word for what I really meant!) - little sh** thinks he is better than what he is!
FPT... I know you are excited but you should write for the one of the broad sheets - all your posts are sooooo long !
(Before someone says ignore them, I like what the man has to say, but am usually too tired to read all the way through! - too much drink - just wish it could be more to the point )
FFC - if we take a low initial amount or especially, low final amount, then we deserve lower league football!
You can probably tell that once again the news (rumours) coming out about my club are not pleasing! I'm getting really downhearted and peed off!
Quote from: @jolslover on July 18, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
Fair enough, Defenders are the priority, but both good players nonetheless
one will be 33 in two months, do we need another player on the decline. and a winger could be handy, but with pringle,kaca,cole,williams,lvc and cairney on the books, i have to ask why we are even looking in that department.
I believe Will Buckley would be a good addition as we only have 2 out and out Right Wingers - Larnell and Plumain, LVC and Cairney can both play there but it is not their strongest position. People are saying we need a DM and I cant think of one much better than Britton although 33 he would be a bargain and on a 1 year deal would be a great bit of business. When I watched him against QPR last year he had a great for Swansea and is a great passer of the ball. I would not say we NEED either but both are good players who would benefit the squad.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 18, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
FPT... I know you are excited but you should write for the one of the broad sheets - all your posts are sooooo long !
(Before someone says ignore them, I like what the man has to say, but am usually too tired to read all the way through! - too much drink - just wish it could be more to the point )
Hahaha, I must admit, I'm surprised others haven't said that - though I imagine some think it. I think I end up talking about a tonne of other things in a marathon getting to my actual point. Or answering to other points already in the post whilst getting to my own one so it looks like I've written a book. If I end up waffling, I'll make sure I leave a sentence or so at the end rounding the whole thing up so you don't need to read it all.
In short, my bad, I'll try to shorten things down.
I like how you even needed a TLDR for your apology ;)
"We're hopeful for another couple of players so we're looking and we're talking to people," Symons said. "You never know so I wouldn't count our chickens. We're looking all over the pitch as we want to be strong in all areas. I want real quality in every position because it's a long, tough season."
Kit Symons talking after the Crawley match.
Pat's gone. Confirmed by both the offal and Citeh on twitter. On SkySports too.
Club wishes him the best for the future (probably because we'll get a fat sell-on fee haha).
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Time to tie up the McDonald and Dunk deals now we have some spending money. 049:gif
Now get our signings done fulham.
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
It would seem if we really want MacDonald from Wolves now, we've got him - as he is clearly unsettled (official reason for not playing yesterday, straight from Jackett's mouth).
Wolves fans convinced that it is all about the contract for him, and clearly has no real desire to stay otherwise. Apparently, Sheff Utd fans laughing because he did exactly the same when leaving them for Wolves.
Surely, we just have to make the right offer, and it should be a done deal?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3167016/Fulham-target-defender-Jake-Bidwell-Championship-rivals-Brentford.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3167016/Fulham-target-defender-Jake-Bidwell-Championship-rivals-Brentford.html)
Fulham are looking at £1m Jake Bidwell, Brentford want more - also says: "Fulham also retain an interest in Middlesbrough left-back James Husband, who spent two months on loan at Craven Cottage at the end of last season, but are thought to be prioritising Bidwell."
Dunk, Husband & McDonald in then I can see a squad capable of challenging
Bidwell would be a great signing at LB. £1m would be a really good price to solve our most-needed position on the pitch.
One of today's papers saying us,QPR and Forest are interested in signing Spurs defender Ryan Fredericks.
Spurs want £2 million for him.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Quote from: Joly poly on July 19, 2015, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Not too sure. Don't know enough about him.
BUT - he's a left-footed CAM, and I reckon we've enough of those in Cairney, O'Hara and Pringle.
It's too random to be completely out-of-the-blue, but doesn't seem to fit the profile of what we need nor who we're going for... I'd be surprised if this happens.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Don't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Don't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
the noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from them
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Don't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
the noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from them
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Don't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
the noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from them
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
he didnt, quite the opposite. but then the players we have shipped out in the last few windows tells a completely different story.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Don't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
the noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from them
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
he didnt, quite the opposite. but then the players we have shipped out in the last few windows tells a completely different story.
let me just add, that i dont think shad will be like mo and make us sell a decent player if a big bid comes in, i think he will be more like a heres your budget, do what you want as long as it balances type of owner. the bees chairman is very hands on
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FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Not too sure. Don't know enough about him.
BUT - he's a left-footed CAM, and I reckon we've enough of those in Cairney, O'Hara and Pringle.
It's too random to be completely out-of-the-blue, but doesn't seem to fit the profile of what we need nor who we're going for... I'd be surprised if this happens.
I've just been looking at a tonne of different things on him, from his stats in the Europa League to his FIFA and FM ratings via some Standard Liege highlights. He's a central midfielder with a lot of energy and pace, in the Europa League he scored 4.6 tackles a game and 3.2 interceptions (over 5 games) and 6 assists from 21 Belgian League games, 10 Belgian League play offs and those 5 Europa League matches for Standard.
His stats, early glimpses of style and whatnot reminds me a bit of Harry Arter - bags of energy and lots of pressing, hustling and harrying; who can then move the ball up the pitch. Though that's from very basic pieces of information so it may not be accurate whatsoever.
I do agree that it's so obscure to be written off as nonsense. No one cares about reporting Championship transfers unless they're fairly concrete. The Charlton Belgians have generally done quite well in the Championship.
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FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Not too sure. Don't know enough about him.
BUT - he's a left-footed CAM, and I reckon we've enough of those in Cairney, O'Hara and Pringle.
It's too random to be completely out-of-the-blue, but doesn't seem to fit the profile of what we need nor who we're going for... I'd be surprised if this happens.
I've just been looking at a tonne of different things on him, from his stats in the Europa League to his FIFA and FM ratings via some Standard Liege highlights. He's a central midfielder with a lot of energy and pace, in the Europa League he scored 4.6 tackles a game and 3.2 interceptions (over 5 games) and 6 assists from 21 Belgian League games, 10 Belgian League play offs and those 5 Europa League matches for Standard.
His stats, early glimpses of style and whatnot reminds me a bit of Harry Arter - bags of energy and lots of pressing, hustling and harrying; who can then move the ball up the pitch. Though that's from very basic pieces of information so it may not be accurate whatsoever.
I do agree that it's so obscure to be written off as nonsense. No one cares about reporting Championship transfers unless they're fairly concrete. The Charlton Belgians have generally done quite well in the Championship.
god damn, if he can score 4.6 tackles per game, then i wonder how many goals he score ;)
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If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Don't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
the noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from them
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
he didnt, quite the opposite. but then the players we have shipped out in the last few windows tells a completely different story.
let me just add, that i dont think shad will be like mo and make us sell a decent player if a big bid comes in, i think he will be more like a heres your budget, do what you want as long as it balances type of owner. the bees chairman is very hands on
I agree that Shad comes across as more of a hands off owner, though I believe he's around the club more than many give him credit for......just apparently not so many matches. He strikes me as a "give 'em enough rope....." kind of owner. Just fine with me so long as he maintains his good judgement in choosing who gets the rope and who doesn't.
Betting on Oddschecker,McDonald favourite
to join us...
Why do we go in with such embarrassingly low bids? £1m for Bidwell?? According to my Bees mate that is beyond derisory
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2015, 08:15:05 PM
Why do we go in with such embarrassingly low bids? £1m for Bidwell?? According to my Bees mate that is beyond derisory
I don't have a problem with this strategy. Throw an embarrassing low bid out so hopefully the opposition will counter with the ballpark of what they think the player is worth. Cuts all the bull crap out of the negotiation immediately and gets to the real number if done correctly. if we start with an offer of 3.5 mil and they accept, how would we know they would take 2.9, etc. It may be obvious that 1 mil, or 2 mill I think in the rumor of the initial Dunk bid is something we know is not going to be accepted. But in a quest to get the player at the best price, this is not a bad way for our side to open negotiations. Get the crap bid out there, lets the player know we are in for him, hopefully they decide they want to come and get unsettled (MacDonald) in which case that too helps our leverage to get the price down.
every clubs fans are the same, Blackburn's fans thought 3.5 million was derisory for Cairney, some of ours think that 5 million up front for Roberts (if that is what it is) is derisory for him. IT is what it is, personally I cant believe there are many championship defenders that could demand a fee of much more than 2 or 2.5 milion
Don't know if this has been seen but:
Wolves @OfficialWolves Jul 18
Video to follow but Kenny Jackett has told Wolves Player that Kevin McDonald didn't figure today due to being unsettled.
He appears to be pulling a similar stunt Pat did with us to get his move to Fulham or a substantial pay rise from Wolves........maybe a transfer request will follow.
Ah.... The modern transfers eh?
"To try to leave us for a crappy club like fulham over money in my opinion is just greedy. He obviously has no pride. I mean come on he wants to swap from a club with statues of Wright & Cullis to one that puts up Michael Jackson statues"
"fulhams transfer activity so far this year doesn't suggest they are paying silly wages, and will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached. Patrick Roberts is on the verge of leaving. They are a club in decline with one of the worst sets of fans I've ever come across."
etc etc etc
They really don't seem to like us. Someone want to let them know we've not had the MJ statue for 2 years, and that we have one of England's finest players outside our ground? Also, "club in decline" with our "better players about to get poached"?!
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 19, 2015, 11:20:32 PM
"To try to leave us for a crappy club like fulham over money in my opinion is just greedy. He obviously has no pride. I mean come on he wants to swap from a club with statues of Wright & Cullis to one that puts up Michael Jackson statues"
"fulhams transfer activity so far this year doesn't suggest they are paying silly wages, and will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached. Patrick Roberts is on the verge of leaving. They are a club in decline with one of the worst sets of fans I've ever come across."
etc etc etc
They really don't seem to like us. Someone want to let them know we've not had the MJ statue for 2 years, and that we have one of England's finest players outside our ground? Also, "club in decline" with our "better players about to get poached"?!
It amazes me how deluded some fans really are, and never see past their own Club. Fair enough, it was a poor season for us last year, but as a Club, we've just come off the back of 13 years in the Premiership. Squad was depleted yes, mainly due to Magath, but this season shows that we're making a real statement by targeting last seasons best play-makers.
I like to think that we're quite an intelligent supporters group (in general). We know where we are, we know our limitations, we don't boast about being too big or complain for being too small. We fight, claw and battle for everything we get in our own unique Fulham way. If you don't get what Fulham is, what it represents and the truly special club we are as you into Craven Cottage, you shouldn't be at a football match.
We're one of 13 professional clubs in the city, with four clubs in the SW area specifically. We drew a decent average of 18,000+ supporters, a percentage of our stadium - a lower attendance but a higher percentage of our capacity than Wolves and Leeds - who have a less crowded catchment area to work in.
It's funny, the Wolves supporter that says "will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached." How's Bakary Sako? An actual key component of their team as opposed to Patrick Roberts? I hate discussions about club size and whatnot, it's so irrelevant to me - it's the footballing 'penis extension' for middle aged men, but we can't be that bad if we've woken the interest of one of their better players - could argue he's more vital for them than Sako was as he's the lynchpin of their midfield.
Quote from: FPT on July 20, 2015, 01:04:22 AM
I like to think that we're quite an intelligent supporters group (in general). We know where we are, we know our limitations, we don't boast about being too big or complain for being too small. We fight, claw and battle for everything we get in our own unique Fulham way. If you don't get what Fulham is, what it represents and the truly special club we are as you into Craven Cottage, you shouldn't be at a football match.
We're one of 13 professional clubs in the city, with four clubs in the SW area specifically. We drew a decent average of 18,000+ supporters, a percentage of our stadium - a lower attendance but a higher percentage of our capacity than Wolves and Leeds - who have a less crowded catchment area to work in.
It's funny, the Wolves supporter that says "will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached." How's Bakary Sako? An actual key component of their team as opposed to Patrick Roberts? I hate discussions about club size and whatnot, it's so irrelevant to me - it's the footballing 'penis extension' for middle aged men, but we can't be that bad if we've woken the interest of one of their better players - could argue he's more vital for them than Sako was as he's the lynchpin of their midfield.
A lot of the hate and drivvle has come from social media trolls saying stuff like 'we're the biggest club in the championship, name me one bigger?' and 'I can't wait to sign your player as we have a billionaire owner ' etc etc Its pathetic and some ITK people on twitter have been throwing wild accusations around about it and it rubs both sets of fans the wrong way. I will say, most Wolves fans I know are decent. realistic folk but a few I've come across on social media are just utter morons. But I've seen a fair few of our lot actign teh same way so....Wrong un's at all clubs.
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 19, 2015, 11:20:32 PM
"To try to leave us for a crappy club like fulham over money in my opinion is just greedy. He obviously has no pride. I mean come on he wants to swap from a club with statues of Wright & Cullis to one that puts up Michael Jackson statues"
"fulhams transfer activity so far this year doesn't suggest they are paying silly wages, and will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached. Patrick Roberts is on the verge of leaving. They are a club in decline with one of the worst sets of fans I've ever come across."
etc etc etc
They really don't seem to like us. Someone want to let them know we've not had the MJ statue for 2 years, and that we have one of England's finest players outside our ground? Also, "club in decline" with our "better players about to get poached"?!
Wolves have some decent and some of the dullest and nastiest fans around. This is exactely what I would expect from them, I always suffer agro when I go there.
Reading through the transfer gossip on the BBC I just can´t believe the sums being quoted for some players I certainly do not have a clue who they are.
I long for the day when the bubble bursts. It is mugs like us who feed this with our Sky subs. We could burst the bubble if we all cancelled out subs but it will never happen sadly.
More on Luke Garbutt
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/everton/story/2528639/everton-defender-luke-garbutt-wanted-by-fulham-on-loan (http://www.espnfc.co.uk/everton/story/2528639/everton-defender-luke-garbutt-wanted-by-fulham-on-loan)
Quote from: grandad on July 20, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
Reading through the transfer gossip on the BBC I just can´t believe the sums being quoted for some players I certainly do not have a clue who they are.
I long for the day when the bubble bursts. It is mugs like us who feed this with our Sky subs. We could burst the bubble if we all cancelled out subs but it will never happen sadly.
You ever tried cancelling Sky to move provider? It'd be easier to just have your income paid to them directly, thieves.
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
It's a long season and I imagine we'll use them all providing they're fit.
Also, Parker might go if rumours are to be believed. One last crack at the Premier League.
M'boro looking at Jordan Rhodes apparently
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
Where does it say we've met the buy out clause mate? There's a journo on Twitter who covers Belgian football who said just yesterday that he couldn't see him leaving.
"You ever tried cancelling Sky to move provider? It'd be easier to just have your income paid to them directly, thieves."
Yes, I cancelled when we were relegated. No problem, except a lot of "please re-join, we'll give you a big discount if you do" offers.
In the time since not being a subscriber I would really only have missed having it badly twice - for the last Ryder Cup and the PGA at Wentworth this Spring. But purchase of a £10.99 Now box, and payment for a couple of weekly "sports channels" passes meant I was able to see both events for a total cost of about a third of what I was paying Sky monthly!
Given the availability of Premiership "streams" I don't think I'll re-subscribe when we get promoted.
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Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
It's a long season and I imagine we'll use them all providing they're fit.
Also, Parker might go if rumours are to be believed. One last crack at the Premier League.
Kit dismissed the reports of Parker leaving.
Why on earth are we reported to want Garbutt on loan? We have the funds to be able to buy an experienced LB. We don´t need young, inexperienced loanees, especially ones that don´t want to leave their parent club. Different if we loan a player with an option to buy.
Well, if the club are unable to purchase the players that they rate at LB for whichever reason, then it would make some sense to loan in a player and spend transfer funds elsewhere (CB's).
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 20, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
Well, if the club are unable to purchase the players that they rate at LB for whichever reason, then it would make some sense to loan in a player and spend transfer funds elsewhere (CB's).
Agree .Garbutt is a good player .Great cross on him
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 20, 2015, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
Where does it say we've met the buy out clause mate? There's a journo on Twitter who covers Belgian football who said just yesterday that he couldn't see him leaving.
That was the way it was worded on Sky this morning about 7am!
Looks like the move is off, apparently there's interest from Sevilla and Sociedad!
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
(http://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/adrien-trebel-est-convoit-m-gouverneur-l-equipe/1500000000593358/0:135,1364:823-665-335-70/457d4.jpg)
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 20, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
(http://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/adrien-trebel-est-convoit-m-gouverneur-l-equipe/1500000000593358/0:135,1364:823-665-335-70/457d4.jpg)
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
and for those of us who can only read english?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
i dont know why we are still messing about with dunk (if indeed we are) isnt it less than 3 weeks till our first game and our defence is worse than it was last year.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 20, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
(http://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/adrien-trebel-est-convoit-m-gouverneur-l-equipe/1500000000593358/0:135,1364:823-665-335-70/457d4.jpg)
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
and for those of us who can only read english?
Adrien Trebel, no Fulham
Coveted by Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24) also concerned Sevilla and Real Sociedad. But Standard Liege is "no vendor" .
As stated on Monday in our newspaper , relaying the English press, Adrien Trebel (24 years) interested many Fulham (English D2), with which discussions have started. Reportedly, two Spanish clubs (FC Sevilla and Real Sociedad) also contacted the Standard Liege to probe the availability of the former Nantes, under contract until 2018. But " no vendor ", the Belgian club does not intend to let his French midfielder this summer, especially as it comes out of a very successful season, which earned him to be elected in the regular team and best player of the Championship Reds by supporters.
French apart tracks
Supervised twice by David Moyes in person late last season, Trebel could still be tempted if a good offer comes to him. Even if he has the chance to play the Champions League, for example in Andalusia. One thing is sure though, it will not return to France immediately, despite the interest shown by Reims and Lorient. When contacted, his agent has declined to comment until he had not met with the leaders of the Standard. A meeting has already been set in early August.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
i dont know why we are still messing about with dunk (if indeed we are) isnt it less than 3 weeks till our first game and our defence is worse than it was last year.
Agreed. At this point we should either get serious (put in an offer closer to their valuation) or move on altogether.
Our defence is still a train wreck - we have no competent LB and serious question marks over all three first team CB's. We also lack a pure defensive midfielder. Lots to be done in the next 3 weeks.
Quote from: Classic94 on July 20, 2015, 04:41:26 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
i dont know why we are still messing about with dunk (if indeed we are) isnt it less than 3 weeks till our first game and our defence is worse than it was last year.
Agreed. At this point we should either get serious (put in an offer closer to their valuation) or move on altogether.
Our defence is still a train wreck - we have no competent LB and serious question marks over all three first team CB's. We also lack a pure defensive midfielder. Lots to be done in the next 3 weeks.
i doubt anything is going to happen whilst they are on a jolly in austria either
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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Quote from: Riverside on July 20, 2015, 05:05:14 PM
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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lol, a 21 year old who has played 15 games in the last 3 years.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Riverside on July 20, 2015, 05:05:14 PM
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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lol, a 21 year old who has played 15 games in the last 3 years.
Mike Rigg knows every kid the the England youth setup, so if Mike wants him he must be good
Quote from: Jeroen on July 20, 2015, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Riverside on July 20, 2015, 05:05:14 PM
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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lol, a 21 year old who has played 15 games in the last 3 years.
Mike Rigg knows every kid the the England youth setup, so if Mike wants him he must be good
Think we used this same rationale with Rene, Larnell, and Tunni. I'm not saying that Larnell and Tunni are crap or anything like it. But, the point is fighting for promotion and improving the team at every position. How does a 21 yr old with his playing history definitively improve the team? If he's one for the future, then fine. But, if true, I hope we are not planning to count on him this season.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 20, 2015, 04:29:28 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 20, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
and for those of us who can only read english?
Adrien Trebel, no Fulham
To clarify, I think 'Il n'ya pas que Fulham' translates as 'Not only Fulham'.
The gist is, as said, Seville and Sociadad have been sniffing around as well as Fulham, but Standard don't want to sell him - or, rather, say they don't, which is a bit different.
L'Equipe is a proper, sensible daily sports paper. It's a pity, for all our supposed enthusiasm for sport, that nothing similar would be possible here.
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
We've got enough forwards right now
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Going to Palace
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Isn't he Tunniclffe's twitter mate?
Hahaha yeah - to be a fly on the wall when Patrick Bamford is introduced and welcomed to the team with Ryan Tunnicliffe.
Of course I'd take him, he's a goal scorer - which I believe that we need another of, but I think Chelsea would prefer to see him in the Premier League with Palace also interested, though I'm sure he'll sold within three years like Romelu Lukaku and Kevin De Bruyne.
Patrick Bamford is one of those that you'd love to tempt to your club for first team football - like Everton did with Lukaku.
A talented player, but we're probably not in the mix - I expect to see him on loan at a Premier League team.
We need defenders (LB, CB). We have enough midfielders on a relative basis.
Once again linked with Reece James of Manchester United!
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 21, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
Where did you get that info?
We were also led to believe that he was having his medical with us around a week ago!
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 21, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
I'll believe it when its on the offal. If true very promising signing. I think he fits pretty well with Boderov. Still not a huge fan of Dan Burn but I do see his potential. I've been very disappointed with Hutchinson. I really thought he was a no brainer, first name on the team sheet at the back signing. Just hasn't worked out yet.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 21, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
Hopefully this is true. Dunk is a great player with a lot of potential. I would be very disappointed if the offal didn't lead with the headline "Slam Dunk"
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
the persons name is 'Secretagent81'...... Summer holidays started.
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Borough fans seem to think they are going to splash some cash on a striker so maybe a good offer for Husband may give them the funds they need to do so.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Essentially, if someone guesses enough transfers and a few happen, instantly they gain credibility apparently.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 21, 2015, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Essentially, if someone guesses enough transfers and a few happen, instantly they gain credibility apparently.
So if this deal goes through he has a 100% record.
Lewis Dunk is like the Candy Man. Say he is going to join Fulham enough times and he will appear.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 21, 2015, 12:34:18 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 21, 2015, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Essentially, if someone guesses enough transfers and a few happen, instantly they gain credibility apparently.
So if this deal goes through he has a 100% record.
Give it an hour and im sure he'll make a few more statements.
092.gif No Disrespect intended, but I'll wait until 'MJG' posts this.
He is a good boy he is! :Haynes The Maestro:
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Can't be - it's sceptical.
Quote from: Holders on July 21, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Can't be - it's sceptical.
It must be in code because that's how he's spelt it!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: Holders on July 21, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Can't be - it's sceptical.
It must be in code because that's how he's spelt it!
Accidentally used the American spelling, I'm very sorry.
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
I have in the know middlesbro information that Bamford was on 43,000 a week last season of which boro paid 100 per cent. Maybe this is why we don't loan players from the dark side..
Quote from: beijing ben on July 21, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
I have in the know middlesbro information that Bamford was on 43,000 a week last season of which boro paid 100 per cent. Maybe this is why we don't loan players from the dark side..
So he has gone to palace on loan having signed a new deal with chelsea which i would guess is for more money per week than last season. Id guess only cabaye will be on higher wages than him at palace...
Reece James to Wigan confirmed.
Just seen reports that third bid for Dunk was accepted, medical done and to be announced tomorrow
Bring in Dunk & Garbutt I will be very happy with the look of our squad
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 22, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
Just seen reports that third bid for Dunk was accepted, medical done and to be announced tomorrow
If that is accurate, then it would be a great result to have secured Lewis Dunk, and if we can get Luke Garbutt, even if it has to be on loan, that will be good business.
Reece James has signed for Wigan for £1m.
Talking to someone last night who knows someone in the know down here in Sussex and he says the Dunk sale is still a possibility, the price has apparently gone to 5 million, some of my brighton supporting friends don't think he is worth it although he is just about their only asset at the club.
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 22, 2015, 09:26:19 AM
Talking to someone last night who knows someone in the know down here in Sussex and he says the Dunk sale is still a possibility, the price has apparently gone to 5 million, some of my brighton supporting friends don't think he is worth it although he is just about their only asset at the club.
Someone posted late on twitter last night that fee agreed, signing today. Seems a genuine sort and said news was from a famiy member of Dunk.
Only thing that worries me is there seems to be no news, not even a hint on the BHAFC messageboards, they wont be happy if true as they're moaning about being paper thin at centre back.
Also pretty sure someone posted somewhere a few weeks back about Lewis Dunks girlfriend leaking the story of how hes signing for Fulham, wondering if the latest twitter story is a rehash of that?.
It is very quiet on the transfer front.
Think we have about broken even so far on wages/fee's spent compared to outgoings.
Kit has said on the latest video (and also after the Crawley game i think) that he hopes for a couple more and they are working on them however of they come off great of not he is happy with what he has (doubt he would say anything else though), also praised the work of Rigg and Mackintosh..
Quote from: westcliff white on July 22, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
Kit has said on the latest video (and also after the Crawley game i think) that he hopes for a couple more and they are working on them however of they come off great of not he is happy with what he has (doubt he would say anything else though), also praised the work of Rigg and Mackintosh..
We absolutely need some defenders. He surely can't be silly enough to think even with their lives on the line that our calamitous defense will finally strike it lucky and stop leaking goals for fun.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 22, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
Kit has said on the latest video (and also after the Crawley game i think) that he hopes for a couple more and they are working on them however of they come off great of not he is happy with what he has (doubt he would say anything else though), also praised the work of Rigg and Mackintosh..
Never saw that interview but if hes happy with what hes got in the event of no more signings, then thats the single most depressing Fulham related thing I've heard all summer.
Happy with that defence?? Jesus wept, I give up
Symons obviously wants defenders. Fulham have been trying to sign some all Summer. But nobody at Fulham is going to say ' our defence is a disaster, no disrespect to the lads, so we desperately need players. But just don't tell anybody because the price will go up'
I think sometimes we just want to attack the club out of frustration without aiming at the right target.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Symons obviously wants defenders. Fulham have been trying to sign some all Summer. But nobody at Fulham is going to say ' our defence is a disaster, no disrespect to the lads, so we desperately need players. But just don't tell anybody because the price will go up'
I think sometimes we just want to attack the club out of frustration without aiming at the right target.
I don't think there is any harm in him saying we want more defenders, we know we need to improve and give the lads who are good enough some more competition for places...
If we go into this new season without signing any defenders, it'll be absolutely suicidal. Can't see how the manager can turn around and say 'He's happy', not unless he's protecting current players, or players coming in.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 22, 2015, 12:44:27 PM
If we go into this new season without signing any defenders, it'll be absolutely suicidal. Can't see how the manager can turn around and say 'He's happy', not unless he's protecting current players, or players coming in.
We have signed one defender. But yes, disappointing if we don't sign any more (CB and LB).
Fulham look to Dunk
Fulham have made the first move for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk.
Fulham have tabled a £4m bid for centre-back Dunk and are waiting for a response from the Seagulls.
The Cottagers are hoping to steal a march on their Premier League rivals for Dunk's signature by opening the bidding.
Everton, Newcastle, West Brom and Norwich are also interested in the 23 year-old.
From the Mirror's transfer centre thing.
Our defence last season had: Amore, Grimmer, Hoog, Voser, Kavanagh, Turner, Husband, Richards, Burgess, Burn, Hutchinson, Bodurov, Stafylidis, Bettinelli, Joronen, Kiraly, Lee.
17 Players.
Our defence this season has: Amore, Grimmer, Voser, Kavanagh, Richards, Burgess, Burn, Hutchinson, Bodurov, Joronen, Bettinelli, Lonergan.
12 Players.
Our defence last season was appalling. This season we are 5 players lighter across the defence and only one new face who wasn't a part of last year's team (and that player isn't likely to be a starter anyway).
I am starting to get worried.
I know the season is still a way off, and we're getting linked to good players, but the longer we leave it the less chance is they'll be able to have a good preseason. Dunk hasn't been getting played in Brighton's preseason games, so will probably be off the pace.
Our defence was so, so bad last year. It should have been the first area to get strenthened.
IMO we need to bring in 2 starters and someone else to cover, and they need to be signed ASAP.
Please Rigg, make it so!
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 22, 2015, 01:00:41 PM
Our defence last season had: Amore, Grimmer, Hoog, Voser, Kavanagh, Turner, Husband, Richards, Burgess, Burn, Hutchinson, Bodurov, Stafylidis, Bettinelli, Joronen, Kiraly, Lee.
17 Players.
Our defence this season has: Amore, Grimmer, Voser, Kavanagh, Richards, Burgess, Burn, Hutchinson, Bodurov, Joronen, Bettinelli, Lonergan.
12 Players.
Our defence last season was appalling. This season we are 5 players lighter across the defence and only one new face who wasn't a part of last year's team (and that player isn't likely to be a starter anyway).
I am starting to get worried.
I know the season is still a way off, and we're getting linked to good players, but the longer we leave it the less chance is they'll be able to have a good preseason. Dunk hasn't been getting played in Brighton's preseason games, so will probably be off the pace.
Our defence was so, so bad last year. It should have been the first area to get strenthened.
IMO we need to bring in 2 starters and someone else to cover, and they need to be signed ASAP.
Please Rigg, make it so!
I believe this may be the problem we are facing with signing defenders, clubs know that our defence was woeful last year they know we have already offloaded. As such we become desperate and that is never a good place to negotiate from!
New bid for Dunk - 4 Mil
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/22/fulham-launch-fresh-raid-on-championship-rivals-brighton-for-lew/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/22/fulham-launch-fresh-raid-on-championship-rivals-brighton-for-lew/)
Re the defence . 17 players says it all . How many combinations ?!?
I have posted several times before our defence will be better if it is stable and they have some cover from midfield .
I am not against signing improvements but let it be soon so we can have a stable back 4 .
It is 3 seasons since we had a defensive unit !
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Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
£4m for a young proven English CB isn't too high, I wouldn't say?
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
£4m for a young proven English CB isn't too high, I wouldn't say?
Cant think why anyone would think 4m is too high. Unless we're being ridiculed because its not high enough? He's probably the best centre back in the league
Am I stuck in a time warp?
This week we've heard he has had medical,someone
said he signing today.
Now its gone back to we've made a bid...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2015, 02:32:49 PM
Am I stuck in a time warp?
This week we've heard he has had medical,someone
said he signing today.
Now its gone back to we've made a bid...
Just got to be careful what sources you read. Ive seen a fans today goading Brighton fans as if Dunk has already moved.
Quote from: Ordar on July 22, 2015, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
£4m for a young proven English CB isn't too high, I wouldn't say?
Cant think why anyone would think 4m is too high. Unless we're being ridiculed because its not high enough? He's probably the best centre back in the league
Its the stupid comparison again that X player is worth X amount so Dunk should be worth X amount. In this case people are looking at the Delph transfer. Also should mention a few Brighton fans are saying hes good but no where near that price tag.
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
The Brighton fans are also moaning that it'll leave them no time to get in any replacements and we should be looking for a couple of players at £2m. Although they are talking about Nelson from Plymouth if we get Dunk.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Symons obviously wants defenders. Fulham have been trying to sign some all Summer. But nobody at Fulham is going to say ' our defence is a disaster, no disrespect to the lads, so we desperately need players. But just don't tell anybody because the price will go up'
I think sometimes we just want to attack the club out of frustration without aiming at the right target.
That's what I thought earlier. All the clubs monitor each other and if we came across as desperate then up goes the price as soon as they know it's us on the phone.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PMSeems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
Was in Bradford squad last week I think.
Edited to read Bradford, knew it began with a B
Lyle Dalla-Verde to Fleetwood:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33627952 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33627952)
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
On trial at Bradford City. Fans seem quite impressed bizarrely.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 22, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
On trial at Bradford City. Fans seem quite impressed bizarrely.
Well it is Bradford. I was made Lord Mayor there once when I showed them a box of shiny buttons.
Quote from: cmg on July 22, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 22, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
On trial at Bradford City. Fans seem quite impressed bizarrely.
Well it is Bradford. I was made Lord Mayor there once when I showed them a box of shiny buttons.
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lol...
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
Yes. He is my Butlers new Butler
£4m for Lewis Dunk should be our highest offer really. That's probably the standard for a good Championship player of which he is, but anymore and we'd be overpaying harshly really; especially when we still have a couple of more spaces to fill.
Looking at the Brighton squad, on the face of it they only have two centre backs, Dunk and Gordon Greer which wouldn't have worked in our favour whatsoever and probably part of the reason why Brighton are looking to get as much as possible as not only is he one of their better players, but one of their few in the position. £4m would go a long way for them, they sold Liam Bridcutt and Will Buckley for cheaper. I think the sale of Leonardo Ulloa also last season would have put them in reasonably comfortable stead this year so can demand a little more.
Anyway, £4m is the peak of our bidding for me personally - maybe be nice and say you can have an extra £1m if we get promoted.
dunk not in team tonight for brighton
Quote from: NJFulham on July 22, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
dunk not in team tonight for brighton
That's interesting and positive news, may set a few tongues wagging.
Dunk bid rejected apparently .
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/623917178274889728/photo/1
They always rinse clubs with transfer fees. Move on.
if dunk wants to come then he needs to ask for a transfer to push it through
Well Dunk isn't worth much more effort or money if all this is true. We need to find somebody else.
What happened to the rumour about Eric Botteghin from Groningen? This petered out. Was it a red herring?
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 22, 2015, 07:51:40 PM
What happened to the rumour about Eric Botteghin from Groningen? This petered out. Was it a red herring?
Sounds a bit fishy :hook:
Quote from: f321ffc on July 22, 2015, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 22, 2015, 07:51:40 PM
What happened to the rumour about Eric Botteghin from Groningen? This petered out. Was it a red herring?
Sounds a bit fishy :hook:
Yeah, but he was expensive, we'd have to really splash the cash.
Something not right about this Dunk deal. I've heard from 2 pretty watertight sources that this was going to happen, and over the next couple days.
Quote from: f321ffc on July 22, 2015, 07:35:10 PM
Dunk bid rejected apparently .
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/623917178274889728/photo/1
Well I don't buy that, it's just somebody guessing or been told by a third party at a party when they are all drunk, that they heard from the Raving Loony party. It's all hearsay and conjecture.
Nobody really knows except the clubs themselves.
But one thing is for sure, and definite and true. That is unless Fulham purchase a quality centre back, and a quality left back, we will be facing another long hard and frustrating winter.
All of a sudden there are about 7 pages on one of the main Brighton sites (North Stand Banter), and two interesting snippets were:
1) Bloke at the Crawley match tonight was sat next to someone who knows Dunk's dad, and he reckons he is genuinely injured and not going anywhere
2) There are a few on the board who seem to think he has a £5mill release clause.....
Just posting what I read
:022:
Dunk was injured although he could have played if needed according to the manager. But BHA have problems at the back with knocks and injuries so have no intention of risking Dunk or anybody else for a friendly at Crawley. They have again said that Dunk is a Brighton lad and player and they don't want him to go anywhere.
Time for us to move on because he just isn't worth more than a few million and we must have other players we are interested in.
Looks like Dunk not happening, move on, Tarkowski?
Yeah Brighton don't want to sell Dunk this summer.
Considering a lot of fans are saying Dunk isn't worth £4m, means our bid was probably meeting their valuation, but the player is too important to them.
Be interesting to see if this develops more or if we go for someone else.
Dunk and Burn would have been great to watch.
Well if he wants to come then he'll have to put a transfer request in pretty sharpish. Otherwise Lees or Tarkowski need looking at.
Lifted from twitter. Rumours still circulating. Of course, if true it may not be us that bought him!
We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 15 hrs15 hours ago
Dunk apparently sold #bhafc
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We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 13 hrs13 hours ago
Dunk rumour came from reliable source of "bloke in bar ten mins before kick off" #bhafc
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Lifted from twitter. Rumours still circulating. Of course, if true it may not be us that bought him!
We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 15 hrs15 hours ago
Dunk apparently sold #bhafc
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We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 13 hrs13 hours ago
Dunk rumour came from reliable source of "bloke in bar ten mins before kick off" #bhafc
Unless i've interpreted that wrong, isn't that second related tweet a p*** take?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 23, 2015, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Lifted from twitter. Rumours still circulating. Of course, if true it may not be us that bought him!
We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 15 hrs15 hours ago
Dunk apparently sold #bhafc
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We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 13 hrs13 hours ago
Dunk rumour came from reliable source of "bloke in bar ten mins before kick off" #bhafc
Unless i've interpreted that wrong, isn't that second related tweet a p*** take?
Definitely, and the first is lame.
Fulham are chasing a £1million deal for Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel
This from The Daily Mail.
Please no more midfielders
Quote from: grandad on July 23, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
Fulham are chasing a £1million deal for Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel
This from The Daily Mail.
Please no more midfielders
This could be next player down the list after McDonald
Something on Twitter about Eisfeld returning to Bochum on a permanent deal.
Not sure how likely this is, but I think it's fair to say we have a heap of midfielders now and Eisfeld isn't going to be one of the first on the teamsheet...
Rigg and co need to get a move on, the squad needs to be improved despite what Symons says.
A left back and center back are vital, I feel.
Jacob Murtagh @jacobmurtagh 13m13 minutes ago
Fulham are reportedly close to signing Everton's Luke Garbutt on loan #ffc #efc
http://mirr.im/1CRovGy (http://mirr.im/1CRovGy)
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Some Daily Mail writer says we have now won the race to sign Garbutt.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Barlow_DM
We're gonna have a pretty young back 5 at this rate, assuming we bring in Dunk/Tarkowski/Lees to partner Burn/Hutch.
I think that the fact we play Brighton in the second game of the season may be something of a sticking point.
Clearly, were Brighton to sell Dunk, it would not be a popular decision with their supporters. Imagine how the criticism towards Hughton and the chairman would intensify if he were to perform well and help us to victory against his old club so early in the campaign.
It may be that Brighton have agreed/will agree a fee with us, but only if we agree to the caveat that he won't depart until the week following the fixture between us.
SSN saying that Barry Bannan is free to leave Crystal Palace.
He wouldn't be the first name I'd go for, but he plays LM/CM/RM - which is pretty much ideal for our new formation/style of play. He's also in the last year of his contract, still only 25, has Championship experience and speaks the language etc. I think he'd be of a similar standard to Pringle/Cairney/LVC but would add some much-needed competition/depth...
Got a good write-up for his time on loan at Bolton in the Championship last year: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/ (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/)
I don't know, he might not be exactly what we need, but an injury to Cairney/LVC would leave us a little exposed in some key areas.. Might be a good addition if we can get him cheap.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 23, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
SSN saying that Barry Bannan is free to leave Crystal Palace.
He wouldn't be the first name I'd go for, but he plays LM/CM/RM - which is pretty much ideal for our new formation/style of play. He's also in the last year of his contract, still only 25, has Championship experience and speaks the language etc. I think he'd be of a similar standard to Pringle/Cairney/LVC but would add some much-needed competition/depth...
Got a good write-up for his time on loan at Bolton in the Championship last year: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/ (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/)
I don't know, he might not be exactly what we need, but an injury to Cairney/LVC would leave us a little exposed in some key areas.. Might be a good addition if we can get him cheap.
I would have loved him before this window but think we would be over strengthening right now. Decent player.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 23, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 23, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
SSN saying that Barry Bannan is free to leave Crystal Palace.
He wouldn't be the first name I'd go for, but he plays LM/CM/RM - which is pretty much ideal for our new formation/style of play. He's also in the last year of his contract, still only 25, has Championship experience and speaks the language etc. I think he'd be of a similar standard to Pringle/Cairney/LVC but would add some much-needed competition/depth...
Got a good write-up for his time on loan at Bolton in the Championship last year: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/ (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/)
I don't know, he might not be exactly what we need, but an injury to Cairney/LVC would leave us a little exposed in some key areas.. Might be a good addition if we can get him cheap.
I would have loved him before this window but think we would be over strengthening right now. Decent player.
Fair, pretty much my feeling too... I guess we are pretty set for left-footed CMs!
Still, Barry would be a useful utility player for the midfield, plus he's been effective in the prem - which'd be great if we do happen across a playoff spot and get lucky..
Quote from: Arthur on July 23, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
I think that the fact we play Brighton in the second game of the season may be something of a sticking point.
Clearly, were Brighton to sell Dunk, it would not be a popular decision with their supporters. Imagine how the criticism towards Hughton and the chairman would intensify if he were to perform well and help us to victory against his old club so early in the campaign.
It may be that Brighton have agreed/will agree a fee with us, but only if we agree to the caveat that he won't depart until the week following the fixture between us.
It's a good point you make. They seem to be asking a lot but if we sold an untested Roberts for 4-5ish then a good prospect who is up to the challenge in this league is arguably worth similar. Young, talented CB's who have every chance of improving should really be worth more than what is generally paid. Maybe Brighton know he has that much that one more season and he will be picked up by a big club. One more year of him playing and more money if they sell to a top club.
I agree with Jonaldinho on Barry Bannan, he'll be a good player for someone but probably not needed here.
Quote from: rweller86 on July 22, 2015, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 22, 2015, 12:44:27 PM
If we go into this new season without signing any defenders, it'll be absolutely suicidal. Can't see how the manager can turn around and say 'He's happy', not unless he's protecting current players, or players coming in.
We have signed one defender. But yes, disappointing if we don't sign any more (CB and LB).
:plus one:
According to this,talks have stalled between Kevin Macdonald and Wolves
http://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2015/07/24/kevin-mcdonalds-wolves-talks-stall/ (http://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2015/07/24/kevin-mcdonalds-wolves-talks-stall/)
Wolves fans now labelling him a greedy bar-steward and saying he can do one 'cos he's **** anyway'!
Probably now down to us if if really want him....
Apparently The Blue Poo have tabled a bid of £2.5 Mil for Bettinelli. Are they having a laugh.Another one to join the other 30 to go on loan somewhere never to be seen again.
I have this feeling that we're still going to pursue both Dunk and McDonald, but end up getting the pair late doors.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 23, 2015, 01:40:06 PM
Something on Twitter about Eisfeld returning to Bochum on a permanent deal.
Not sure how likely this is, but I think it's fair to say we have a heap of midfielders now and Eisfeld isn't going to be one of the first on the teamsheet...
He looks good on the right wing and we are very short in that department, don't want to see him leave.
Blackburn want 10 milliion plus James Husband for Rhodes. That maybe why Husband was never linked to here.
Fulham, QPR, Bristol City and Wigan eye MK Dons midfielder Ben Reeves.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/24/quartet-eye-mk-dons-ace-reeves/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/24/quartet-eye-mk-dons-ace-reeves/)
Is it just me or is McDonald needed? With Ohara, Parker, tunni and hyndman we are definitely not short of numbers in that position. He may well add quality but why sign Ohara? Don't get me wrong I would be happy if he signed but we will end up with a lot of midfielders on the wage bill without seeing much from them.
Alfred Finbogasson (who I believe was our back up when Mitroglou signed) has just joined Olympiakos on loan - suggesting that Mitroglou won't be going back there this season. That'd leave either Sporting being the only currently linked team, or him spending at least the first few months of the season with us.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 25, 2015, 05:17:44 PM
Is it just me or is McDonald needed? With Ohara, Parker, tunni and hyndman we are definitely not short of numbers in that position. He may well add quality but why sign Ohara? Don't get me wrong I would be happy if he signed but we will end up with a lot of midfielders on the wage bill without seeing much from them.
He played for wolves today, so, looking less likely.
Quote from: BedsFFC on July 25, 2015, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 25, 2015, 05:17:44 PM
Is it just me or is McDonald needed? With Ohara, Parker, tunni and hyndman we are definitely not short of numbers in that position. He may well add quality but why sign Ohara? Don't get me wrong I would be happy if he signed but we will end up with a lot of midfielders on the wage bill without seeing much from them.
He played for wolves today, so, looking less likely.
Thanks for the info.
From today's the Sun on Sunday:
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Ryan Williams has just been shipped off to Barnsley. Real shame, had high hopes for that kid
And I found this last night - Mesca trialling with AEL Limassol: http://t.co/978c3Smp56 (http://t.co/978c3Smp56)
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on July 26, 2015, 12:34:51 PM
Ryan Williams has just been shipped off to Barnsley. Real shame, had high hopes for that kid
:plus one:
I felt that Ryan was never given a proper chance. He had a good attitude and showed signs of promise. I think he has fallen victim to being in a large squad and i wish him well.
Quote from: FPT on July 26, 2015, 12:52:59 PM
And I found this last night - Mesca trialling with AEL Limassol: http://t.co/978c3Smp56 (http://t.co/978c3Smp56)
I love the google translation of his name 'Bouomeska Toue Do Bathrooms' :005:
The 22-year old former midfielder Fulham Bouomeska Toue Do Bathrooms or simply Meska in our island since Tuesday night on behalf of AEL and will go through a trial
The young ace has come in Cyprus and will pass through the microscope technician AEL , Christakis Christoforou . You can fight the right and on the left side of midfield and as a winger and main feature is speed
The makers of AEL and Cypriot technician who want to try it first and not in a hurry to close the transcription as there is plenty of time ahead of them. Indeed it is likely to be followed and prepare the team in Bulgaria.
I hope this clarifies things, lol :023:
ENGLISH CLUB RUMOURS..
25 Jul 2015 22:06:33
After adding the signature of Luke Garbutt on loan from Everton Fulham are close to signing Swansea Midfielder Leon Britton for a small fee & Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle on loan.
The club are still hopeful of prising Tom Lee's away from Sheffield Wednesday & want former loanee Michael Turner back at the club this season.
The club are yet to find a buyer willing to pay the 8m being asked for Mitroglou & the Greek international has excepted that he may be at Fulham come September.
Think somebody has just pulled all the Summer gossip together into one rumour.
ENGLISH CLUB RUMOURS..
25 Jul 2015 22:06:33
After adding the signature of Luke Garbutt on loan from Everton Fulham are close to signing Swansea Midfielder Leon Britton for a small fee & Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle on loan.
The club are still hopeful of prising Tom Lee's away from Sheffield Wednesday & want former loanee Michael Turner back at the club this season.
The club are yet to find a buyer willing to pay the 8m being asked for Mitroglou & the Greek international has excepted that he may be at Fulham come September.
Those 4 would transform our side and would all be big upgrades on what we have but can't see it happening, though.
Also, Britton would be a good catch - and could be the best in the league - but my Swansea mates think he's pretty hard to fit in a side and has been off-the-ball (so to speak) for a season or so now; might be a bit of a risk.
I presume that was taken from the site Football Rumours (where anybody with an account can post rumours), giving a lot of question marks. I don't believe it's based on any truth, more players we've been vaguely linked with all summer.
Usually I wouldn't comment on things like this, but what did spark my attention was the idea of signing two centre backs and going into next season with essentially a brand new defence, and that's excluding the goalkeeper of which we do not know who will be Kit's number one.
Again, not that I believe the rumour, but Richards, Lees, Turner and Garbutt would be an excellent back four. It'd be surprised if we were to sign two centre backs, but you never know.
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
I hope we sign two CBs and if we do Burn is the one who would push them for a place in the team with hutch as 4th choice. It doesn't really matter who we let go between hutch and bodurov but I think I would let the Bulgarian leave.
So strange because he started off so good but he slowly got worse and became part of the problem eventually and the Turner loan was very much welcomed
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
Whats your gut feeling regarding Dunk?
Played for Brighton today , just get the feeling that we've moved on. Gutted if we have, would've been a fantastic signing. Mystified as to how we haven't got a good centre back in with the new season just around corner.
Dele Ali on loan is being talked about by some fulham fans on twitter
Quote from: jimmyc19 on July 26, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
Dele Ali on loan is being talked about by some fulham fans on twitter
I think he said earlier that he had no intention of going out on loan.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 26, 2015, 11:24:51 PM
Quote from: jimmyc19 on July 26, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
Dele Ali on loan is being talked about by some fulham fans on twitter
I think he said earlier that he had no intention of going out on loan.
Then he can look forward to a season warming their bench...
If anyone doubt our need for a new centre back or 2 - look at the very short clip of the game Saturday.
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
Agreed.
imo Burn needs a solid dependable partner and he will be fine.
That could be the end of the Mitro dream then...
https://twitter.com/YanniRamone/status/625650426948530176
"Another crucial meeting today for Kostas #Mitroglou between #Sporting Lisbon and #Fulham representatives."
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
I would say it's an upgrade as well.....and not because I've seen enough of Kostas in the context of this league to make an educated determination. Something has always seemed off about his transfer to our club.....almost shady.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Really? A loaned in player over a champions league experienced striker we own? Having seen his goals in the u21's and the Greek fans who joined the board when he signed this guy has something. I'm not saying your wrong but I'm not sure your right.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 27, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Really? A loaned in player over a champions league experienced striker we own? Having seen his goals in the u21's and the Greek fans who joined the board when he signed this guy has something. I'm not saying your wrong but I'm not sure your right.
I didn't actually say loan, but I'd agree that'd be the most likely route for Gayle right now.
I did also qualify my point, saying that it'd be an upgrade given our needs (a quicker, more terrier-like striker) and our position (the Championship, not Champions League).
I certainly wouldn't argue that Dwight Gayle is a better striker than Kostas Mitroglou, just that Dwight would probably be a better tool for the job we require...
Also - playing the probabilities - I'd rather safer bet and invest in a younger English league talent, than an older Greek league player who even his biggest fans agree isn't the same after an injury.
Having said that, Kostas is an unknown quantity, and could turn out to be the best striker in the league if he stays... I wouldn't be disappointed to see him here when the season begins, but I don't expect it.
Fofana on loan to Bastia in Ligue 1 for one year. Could have been good to see him back for one year.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 27, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Really? A loaned in player over a champions league experienced striker we own? Having seen his goals in the u21's and the Greek fans who joined the board when he signed this guy has something. I'm not saying your wrong but I'm not sure your right.
I didn't actually say loan, but I'd agree that'd be the most likely route for Gayle right now.
I did also qualify my point, saying that it'd be an upgrade given our needs (a quicker, more terrier-like striker) and our position (the Championship, not Champions League).
I certainly wouldn't argue that Dwight Gayle is a better striker than Kostas Mitroglou, just that Dwight would probably be a better tool for the job we require...
Also - playing the probabilities - I'd rather safer bet and invest in a younger English league talent, than an older Greek league player who even his biggest fans agree isn't the same after an injury.
Having said that, Kostas is an unknown quantity, and could turn out to be the best striker in the league if he stays... I wouldn't be disappointed to see him here when the season begins, but I don't expect it.
No need to qualify your point I'm not saying you are wrong. It's almost chalk and cheese between the two. Owning Mitro would be better than renting Gayle IMO. I also think something has to be taken from how Gayle really hasn't been fancied by palace under various managers. With kaka, pringle, lvc, cairney and super Ross we have an attack that could cause havoc in a flowing side. In smith we have a good goal scorer and awkward player for teams to play against. I think Mitro could be our giroud. Gayle strikes me as very maverick and not one to hold a position. Much like Ross. I worry with them both they would step on each other's toes. Both dropping deep or both pushing on. Nothing that can't be solved with practice.
Dwight Gayle? We've got more chance of getting a full blown Gale.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/28/leeds-rangers-among-clubs-chasing-brentfords-diagouraga/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/28/leeds-rangers-among-clubs-chasing-brentfords-diagouraga/) 079.gif
Diagouraga would be a good signing, but weren't we rumoured to be after him months ago?
Seems like the journos are out of ideas and have been reprinting old rumours...
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 28, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
Diagouraga would be a good signing, but weren't we rumoured to be after him months ago?
Seems like the journos are out of ideas and have been reprinting old rumours...
Probably right there but very short on news/rumours at the moment so as you say probably old news. 049:gif
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 28, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
Diagouraga would be a good signing, but weren't we rumoured to be after him months ago?
Seems like the journos are out of ideas and have been reprinting old rumours...
Saw the same. Thought the same.
Also seen a Portuguese rumor that Miguel Lopes would be a make weight of some sort for Mitro to Sporting. Doesn't make too much sense though, given we've signed Richards already. Anyway, it's on the twitterverse.
Dunks medical is taking a long time....
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Dunks medical is taking a long time....
After Mitrog's insta-injury after signing, Khan's obviously insisting on a minimum 6-month medical for any signing over £2m.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 28, 2015, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Dunks medical is taking a long time....
After Mitrog's insta-injury after signing, Khan's obviously insisting on a minimum 6-month medical for any signing over £2m.
Cairney cost £3.5M mate. I think you need a happy pill.
Brighton are the 2/1 favourites to sign Derby defender Richard Keogh. Either strengthening or getting ready to replace Dunk?
If Kevin McDonald isn't a goer I would seriously - and controversially - say that Joey Barton would be a really strong alternative.
I know his reputation - and I'd much rather Kevin - but we surely can't put all our eggs in one basket with less than two weeks until the season begins.
Just like KMac, Barton's a modern ball-playing DM, which'd fit in perfectly with the style of play we're trying to implement.
He's available on a free, hasn't attracted the top-level interest he might have expected, has recent Championship promotion experience, is still only 32, isn't injury-prone (avg >30 appearances a season for the past 5 years), an experienced leader and isn't as indisciplined as many think (averages less than 1 red a season).
I'm not sure what his wages would look like, but a 1-year contract with an option of a further year (like O'Hara) could dig us out of a hole...
I wouldn't move OHara from that position
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2015, 10:48:40 PM
I wouldn't move OHara from that position
I'm unconvinced by his defensive abilities which would leave our defence in the same position it was last year, even if we do sign a new central defender.
I was told last night that a price has been agreed between Fulham and Brighton for Dunk but his wages are the sticking point, we do not want to break our pay structure. This came from someone connected with Brighton not Fulham.
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 29, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
I was told last night that a price has been agreed between Fulham and Brighton for Dunk but his wages are the sticking point, we do not want to break our pay structure. This came from someone connected with Brighton not Fulham.
Think we should break the wage structure for a centre back - in desperate need now to strengthen before first game of season. Bet his agent would know that too.
Berbie on way to Villa...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Berbie on way to Villa...
Losing their two star players and bringing in Berbatov...I know how this one ends!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Berbie on way to Villa...
Berba and Adybayor together, lump on Villa for relegation.
They just gone 1/4 on Oddschecker..
And Kevin McDonald is now Evens favourite to
join us...
Quote from: f321ffc on July 29, 2015, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Berbie on way to Villa...
Berba and Adybayor together, lump on Villa for relegation.
They just got to hope they win a few at the beginning of the season before they both lose interest
Quote from: f321ffc on July 29, 2015, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Berbie on way to Villa...
Berba and Adybayor together, lump on Villa for relegation.
Exactly my thoughts when i heard it.
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 29, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
I was told last night that a price has been agreed between Fulham and Brighton for Dunk but his wages are the sticking point, we do not want to break our pay structure. This came from someone connected with Brighton not Fulham.
You think thats genuine? Would love Dunk and would get it wrapped up no matter what, I cant imagine him commanding half of what Parker is on ?
. I check out North Stand Chat Brightons biggest messageboard and there doesn't seem to be much on Dunk for a couple weeks now. Get the feeling if this does eventually happen its going to catch a lot of em completely on the hop. Think many cant see him leaving for Fulham
Casasola to Genoa? Dembele being linked with a host of clubs.
Just been perruuzing (probably spelt wrong) Twitter. Noticed that Oriel Romeu is still at Chelsea.
Reckon that lot will let us have him for a year?
I see Wisdom has just signed for Norwich from Liverpool. Could that path a way for a loan move for Turner?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 29, 2015, 09:46:54 PM
I see Wisdom has just signed for Norwich from Liverpool. Could that path a way for a loan move for Turner?
Is Wisdom not a full back?
Plus they've just released one of their few CB's in Miquel (who they signed for £1.5m from Arsenal last summer,and only played 2 games) so they'll need him as back up
Response to Casasola and Oriol comments above.
Oriol Romeu will probably get a deadline day loan abroad. He's a top quality CDM and will probably leave Chelsea next summer anyway. Shame, he's a top talent but I can't see him playing in a 2nd tier league.
Casasola is a strange one. Obviously highly rated when at Boca and was tipped for the top but hasn't really featured heavily at Fulham despite involvement at international level. I wouldn't be surprised if we sold him if the right bid came in, but if he doesn't feature a lot this season in reserves and youth football, you've got to question the long-term progression.
Players like Donnelly, Evans and co will progress faster than him in terms of prospects, it could be argued that Casasola was tipped for bigger things.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 30, 2015, 09:08:33 AM
Response to Casasola and Oriol comments above.
Oriol Romeu will probably get a deadline day loan abroad. He's a top quality CDM and will probably leave Chelsea next summer anyway. Shame, he's a top talent but I can't see him playing in a 2nd tier league.
Casasola is a strange one. Obviously highly rated when at Boca and was tipped for the top but hasn't really featured heavily at Fulham despite involvement at international level. I wouldn't be surprised if we sold him if the right bid came in, but if he doesn't feature a lot this season in reserves and youth football, you've got to question the long-term progression.
Players like Donnelly, Evans and co will progress faster than him in terms of prospects, it could be argued that Casasola was tipped for bigger things.
Exactly this.
Fulham make bid for Sporting CP fullback Miguel Lopes
Fulham and Sporting CP are locked in talks for fullback Miguel Lopes.
The defender was linked with Tottenham earlier this summer.
Record says Fulham have offered €1 million for Lopes, whose camp are pushing the Championship club to up their contract proposal.
Fulham's offer is for €1 million for a 12-month loan, with a €5 million option to sign Lopes permanently.
The Cottagers are also willing to pay a percentage of Kostas Mitroglou's salary at Sporting following his move from London.
See more at: http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/fulham-make-bid-for-sporting-cp-fullback-miguel-lopes-4088698?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed-Latest+Articles#sthash.IHce1FOY.dpuf (http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/fulham-make-bid-for-sporting-cp-fullback-miguel-lopes-4088698?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed-Latest+Articles#sthash.IHce1FOY.dpuf)
Another Loan...?
That's him,Richards and Grimmer battling
for RB slot..
I would hope it'd be Lopes/Richards challenging together and Jack to go on loan until Christmas at least to get some game time.
As an aside, Blackburn fans must be getting pretty sick of this transfer window; Gestede expected to go to Villa, Cairney gone, Rhodes rumoured to be on the way out, and no real chance of getting anyone decent in to replace...
Strange one if true .
We have RB covered - Richards , Grimmer and even Vosser .
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Nothing on Abola about Lopes.
However we are close to a deal wirth Sporting for Mitroglou. He wants to go there. The only stumbling block is the buy out clause, we want 7 million whilst they want it at 5 million.
http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=4&id=562744 (http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=4&id=562744)
Trabzponspor offered a better financial package to Mitroglou but he prefers Sporting
Lopes I am reminded was linked with us years ago when Jol was about.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2015, 12:49:00 PM
Lopes I am reminded was linked with us years ago when Jol was about.
Wasn't that Maxi Lopez? the striker...
Quote from: Walsh on July 30, 2015, 02:06:37 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2015, 12:49:00 PM
Lopes I am reminded was linked with us years ago when Jol was about.
Wasn't that Maxi Lopez? the striker...
Both were linked.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2027192/Fulham-hunt-Porto-defender-Miguel-Lopes.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2027192/Fulham-hunt-Porto-defender-Miguel-Lopes.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jan/04/football-transfer-rumours-maxi-lopez (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jan/04/football-transfer-rumours-maxi-lopez)
As much as I'm not keen on Richards he's here now and don't see need for another right back
Connor Wickham to Crystal Palace.
Massively speculative, but surely that puts Gayle even closer to the door...
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 30, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Connor Wickham to Crystal Palace.
Massively speculative, but surely that puts Gayle even closer to the door...
Sky Sports declaring a fee has been agreed between Palace and Sunderland.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/626803440807751680
Lets hope that gives Gayle another nudge in our direction.
Tom Lees gets a 4-year contract extension with Sheffield Wednesday.
Scratch that name off the list then...
I think we'll just go full blown for Dunk, after watching Kit's interview it makes me feel that he wants them in by Tuesday latest, just due to him wanting new defenders for the start of the season.
Hopefully Turner back in on loan as well. His experience alone would be well worth the loan.
Everytime I watch Connor Wickham I think he is a really good striker. He is really big and is technical on the ball. Now, 10 million for him seems a little steep.
Kevin McDonald not in the Wolves squad for Doncaster game, 2 + 2 = 5????? 049:gif
Lopes gone to Granada - http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=4&id=562930 (http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=4&id=562930)
Quote from: VamosFFC on July 31, 2015, 04:42:40 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 30, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Connor Wickham to Crystal Palace.
Massively speculative, but surely that puts Gayle even closer to the door...
Sky Sports declaring a fee has been agreed between Palace and Sunderland.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/626803440807751680
Lets hope that gives Gayle another nudge in our direction.
Glenn Murray leaving as well though. May keep him.
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
with ross, smith, woodrow, tagget and delembe is he needed
Quote from: Nero on July 31, 2015, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
with ross, smith, woodrow, tagget and delembe is he needed
exactly. with our current group of forwards, Gayle looks more like a luxury than a need. now if the intent is to loan one or more out then, i could see the need.
I'm hopeful that we are paying far more attention to our needs in central defense
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 31, 2015, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
with ross, smith, woodrow, tagget and delembe is he needed
exactly. with our current group of forwards, Gayle looks more like a luxury than a need. now if the intent is to loan one or more out then, i could see the need.
I'm hopeful that we are paying far more attention to our needs in central defense
Gayle offers something none of those possess and that's blistering pace. We've had a shortage of quick players for some time.
Gayle a luxury??! Oh please, he would score goals and skin players for fun in the Championship, and an addition I'd happily welcome at FFC. To get anywhere near challenging for promotion, we need 3 strikers all contributing with double figures. To date, we've yet to replace Hugo's goals, and there is no guarantee's that either Woodrow, Dembele' or Taggart will hit the ground running. It's a yes please from me!!
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 31, 2015, 08:06:16 PM
Gayle a luxury??! Oh please, he would score goals and skin players for fun in the Championship, and an addition I'd happily welcome at FFC. To get anywhere near challenging for promotion, we need 3 strikers all contributing with double figures. To date, we've yet to replace Hugo's goals, and there is no guarantee's that either Woodrow, Dembele' or Taggart will hit the ground running. It's a yes please from me!!
Gayles pace is something we do not have, but rep,acing Rodgers goals would only take a small step,up from any of our strikers, IMO Rodders was a waste of time, started last season well then reverted to the player we all know
I'd take a player with his goals and assists as a waste of time anyday.
Honestly dont feel we need a striker, Got Mccormack, Moussa Dembele who I feel is ready, and Matt Smith as a plan B, Cauley can step in when needed, and if we dont find a club for Mitro, then even better. We need to focus our money on a CB
Quote from: MJG on July 31, 2015, 08:11:07 PM
I'd take a player with his goals and assists as a waste of time anyday.
+1.
Whatever you think about Hugo Rodallega, the facts are that we've lost 18 league goals from last season, only Ross McCormack contributing to more.
Whilst I'm here, here's a list of Fulham's goal contributors (goals and assists) in the league last season:
In bold, those no longer here. I'll let you decide who will and won't be in the overall starting eleven. Someone else can do the maths for average goals needed for and against for a top 6 spot.
Ross McCormack - 26 (17 goals, 9 assists)
Hugo Rodallega - 18 (10 goals, 8 assists)Lasse Vigen Christensen - 12 (5 goals, 7 assists)
Bryan Ruiz - 7 (4 goals, 3 assists)Matt Smith - 6 (5 goals, 1 assist)
Scott Parker - 6 (3 goals, 3 assists)
Tim Hoogland - 5 (4 goals, 1 assist)Cauley Woodrow - 4 (3 goals, 1 assist)
Shaun Hutchinson - 4 (2 goals, 2 assists)
Alex Kacaniklic - 3 (2 goals, 1 assist)
Sean Kavanagh - 3 (1 goal, 2 assists)
Fernando Amorebieta - 2 (1 goal, 1 assist)
Ryan Tunnicliffe 2 - (0 goals, 2 assists)
Seko Fofana - 1 (1 goal, 0 assists)Dan Burn 1 - (1 goal, 0 assists)
Michael Turner - 1 (1 goal, 0 assists)Nikolay Bodurov - 1 (1 goal, 0 assists)
George Williams - 1 (0 goal, 1 assist)
Patrick Roberts - 1 (0 goal, 1 assist)Then the new boys:
Ben Pringle - 10 (3 goals, 7 assists)
Jamie O'Hara - 10 (2 goals, 10 assists)
Tom Cairney - 8 (3 goals, 5 assists)
Nope I disagree. Glad Rodallega is gone. We either just need to sign someone to replace him or one of the young kids needs to step up. He's 30 years old and we know what he brings to the table. He'll get you a decent amount of goals, but he's largely frustrating when on the pitch.
Brighton contact told me Dunk deal dead unless we comit to long term deal and more personal term money, Brighton hoping premier club come for him or he stays where he is. I have no personal proof but I have known this person for a few years and he seems quite genuine.
Quote from: TrexFFC on July 31, 2015, 09:55:55 PM
Nope I disagree. Glad Rodallega is gone. We either just need to sign someone to replace him or one of the young kids needs to step up. He's 30 years old and we know what he brings to the table. He'll get you a decent amount of goals, but he's largely frustrating when on the pitch.
I think most but all are glad Hugo has gone, but that fact still remains, that we've not replaced him, or his 10 goals, yet. You're right, maybe Dembele could step up, might be another year to early again though, but if someone like Gayle is available on loan, I'd take him in a heart beat. Straight in the team, will score 10+ goals, will cause every defender a problem with his pace.
Being linked with Jean-Christophe Bahebeck
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 31, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
Being linked with Jean-Christophe Bahebeck
Yeah I saw that. Though I'm always skeptical when a host of other clubs are being linked as well.
Kevin Macdonald is still being linked tonight. But might just be lazy reporting.
As for the rumours re Gayle. Would be the difference between play offs and also runs. I can't believe fans genuinely believe that Dembele or Taggart can replace Rodders. I would go as far to say that I would take Gayle over a centre half if we had to.
Jean Christophe Bahebeck is being linked to Prem clubs on loan. So no way is that a possibility.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 31, 2015, 10:29:58 PM
Kevin Macdonald is still being linked tonight. But might just be lazy reporting.
As for the rumours re Gayle. Would be the difference between play offs and also runs. I can't believe fans genuinely believe that Dembele or Taggart can replace Rodders. I would go as far to say that I would take Gayle over a centre half if we had to.
Jean Christophe Bahebeck is being linked to Prem clubs on loan. So no way is that a possibility.
I agree. Although centre backs need strengthening most of last season I felt our problems came from no width, awful fullbacks, poor midfield and a striker in Hugo who was incapable of holding up the ball or win a header just to relieve the pressure. He may have scored 10 but I would say his overall game was so bad that he cost us more than he gained.
When defenders play bad everyone notices, same with keepers but if we had to start off with Burn and another I would take that if it meant getting in a striker who would guarantee to at least make up for the goals Hugo scored. Who can guarantee Taggart will score at all? Dembele potentially can but we want promotion and potentially isn't good enough when someone of Gayle's ability could be available on loan. Smith will probably do quite well but like Hugo it's not the goals with him, it's what he can offer and after a run of games I think he would make us predictable. Woodrow I really like but he will never be fast or prolific and instead will just do a job when required.
Good call Lighthouse! I would take Gayle and Turner on loan and not spend a penny more. How's that for your FFP Rigg!?
Regards strikers it all depends whether we are planning to use Mitro or not in my view. But I still see central defense as the priority. I think we only one signing away from sorting that issue but it needs to be an experienced leader and won't come cheap. Get that business done and I would leave it to Kit to take stock and decide what, if any, further additions he needs to make a realistic push for proomtion.
One thing you could never knock Rodallega for is effort - unlike some players we've all witnessed. Can be frustrating, granted - but wish him well and many could learn from his ethos, sportsmanship & application.
Gayle coming? Well a quick inside forward who could link with a centre-forward. So thumbs up if there is any substance to the rumours.
Centre-half? A dominant Hangerland-like figure would be excellent - but I think we disrespect Burn & his abilities. Bodurov, regretfully is too small and Hutchinson always has an error in his locker. Personally not impressed by Amorbietta at all - there's always a penalty on offer. Thought Middlesbrough may come in for him. From what I've seen Voser is an able stand in at full-back ... regret Kavanagh has not shown enough to merit a place above him, for me - but liked by the Manager. Grimmer still WIP but a sound prospect.
Overall, pleased with the transfer activity to date.
Could we be one of the reported 5 Championship clubs chasing winger Will Buckley? In Shields Gazette and BBC.
According to Norwegian press Aalesund FKs finnish defensive midfielder Sakkari Mattila is on his way to us. Apparently he didn't show up for practice today.
http://www.aftenposten.no/100Sport/fotball/eliteserien/AaFK-spiller-er-pa-vei-til-Fulham-576122_1.snd (http://www.aftenposten.no/100Sport/fotball/eliteserien/AaFK-spiller-er-pa-vei-til-Fulham-576122_1.snd)
Mattila - som nylig ga fra seg kapteinsbindet i klubben til Sten Grytebust - deltok ikke på lørdagens AaFK-trening.
Etter det Sunnmørsposten forstår er det fordi den finske landslagsspilleren er på veg bort fra klubben.
Klubben han skal være på veg til, er - slik Sunnmørsposten forstår det - den engelske Championship-klubben Fulham.
- Ingen kommentar, svarer AaFK-direktør Henrik Hoff på spørsmål om hvorvidt finnen er på veg bort fra Ålesund.
- Ønsker Sakki seg videre fra AaFK?
- Det må du nesten spørre han selv om, sier Hoff.
Verken Sakari Mattila eller AaFK-trener Trond Fredriksen har besvart Sunnmørspostens henvendelser lørdag formiddag.
Sakari Mattila kom til AaFK foran 2014-sesongen. Han har startet 30 eliteseriekamper for AaFK.
Very interesting read that
Quote from: W.G.Fulham on August 01, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Very interesting read that
Your a better man than me, if you can read that
Using Google Translate:
Mattila - who recently gave up the captaincy in the team to Sten Grytebust - did not participate in Saturday's AaFK training.
After that Sunnmørsposten understand it because the Finnish national team player is on the road away from the club.
The club he will be on the way to, are - so Sunnmørsposten understand it - the English Championship club Fulham.
- No comment, answer AaFK director Henrik Hoff questions whether fin is headed away from Ålesund.
- Want Sakki further from AaFK?
- It must almost ask him though, says Hoff.
Neither Sakari Mattila or AaFK coach Trond Fredriksen has answered inquiries Sunnmørsposten Saturday morning.
Sakari Mattila joined AaFK front 2014 season. He has started 30 league matches for AaFK.
Quote from: Texas White on August 01, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: W.G.Fulham on August 01, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Very interesting read that
Your a better man than me, if you can read that
Unfortunately not Tex, my Norwegian is a little rusty
min norske er litt rusten
Does this mean McDonald is definitely off I wonder?
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Cant tell you how much that would p*@s me off.
General consensus is we've offered between £4 - £4.5 million, just stump up and get it done. This was an absolute priority, we're a week away from the start of the season with the same dodgy centre back pairing and Symons is talking about promotion??
Unbelievable!
Mattila - who recently gave up the captaincy in the team to Sten Grytebust - did not participate in Saturday's AaFK training. After that Sunnmørsposten understand it because the Finnish national team player is on the road away from the club . The club he will be on the way to ,
If this helps??
its about his salary and his willingness to join a team that wants to improve on last season, appartently he wanted more than we were offering and also if he goes join a tram that is proven
Aren't Ipswich one of the lowest payers in the league(Championship)?
Doesn't make sense and it's the Mirror?
noel hunt was on a big salary there, he was released this summer, so maybe they are not.
I heard he wanted 30-40k per week, don't know if true or not
Fear it to be true then.Just seem to recall a tv commentator saying 20 k was their max.
NKW I don't know for certain, just big news on HUnt where I live as he has just signed for SOuthend
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
I don't know what to believe anymore.
Quote from: TrexFFC on August 01, 2015, 05:01:47 PM
I don't know what to believe anymore.
...well, certainly not anything you read in the papers for a start.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
That's hilarious!
Exactly the same page I copied the text from, but they've changed the text linked to the 3.49pm time-stamp.
The Mirror are clueless methinks...
Quote from: f321ffc on August 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
If 1 million above what we offered has given a strong team last season a player we need then I'm disappointed by the negotiators. Would have taken a top player with a bright future off a lower league club. Now a rival who is challenging for top six has signed an (un signable player). I still beleive a defence needs organisation over skill. But we have had three offers refused and now an offer has (only believe that when I hear it) been accepted. I hope we don't regret that next season.
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This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
If 1 million above what we offered has given a strong team last season a player we need then I'm disappointed by the negotiators. Would have taken a top player with a bright future off a lower league club. Now a rival who is challenging for top six has signed an (un signable player). I still beleive a defence needs organisation over skill. But we have had three offers refused and now an offer has (only believe that when I hear it) been accepted. I hope we don't regret that next season.
What is going on?? Is it Fulham or Ipswich?
Ipswich isn't paying 5 pounds for transfers, let alone 5m pounds for one.
He is 2/5 to join us.
Ipswich not in betting..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2015, 06:03:48 PM
He is 2/5 to join us.
Ipswich not in betting..
I wouldn't rule out hull, they have just got 8 mil for there cb and must be looking
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2015, 06:03:48 PM
He is 2/5 to join us.
Ipswich not in betting..
He's been 2/5 for weeks now
Yes Hull could as you say.
Can't see Ipswich paying it though,bookies
would have got wind of it..
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 02, 2015, 12:27:57 AM
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
That's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
Quote from: Tooting legend on August 02, 2015, 01:04:27 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 02, 2015, 12:27:57 AM
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
That's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
Would cost £10million, cant see Tarkowski coming.
Is McDonald needed now?, O'Hara seems to be lined up for that role, despite his career tailing off a bit he has ran games at a higher level than McDonald,who I rate by the way
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
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01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
That's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
Would cost £10million, cant see Tarkowski coming.
Is McDonald needed now?, O'Hara seems to be lined up for that role, despite his career tailing off a bit he has ran games at a higher level than McDonald, who I rate by the way
We need more depth than just O'Hara and McDonald offers a more defensive alternative to Jamie and a better passing range than Scott. I'm not sure the youngsters are ready for this position; controlling the tempo of the game/reading play/holding possession/organising the midfield and defence.
If the role we're expecting these players to play is the link between defense and attack, I'd want more than just one option for a 40-game season. Wouldn't you?
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01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
That's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
Would cost £10million, cant see Tarkowski coming.
Is McDonald needed now?, O'Hara seems to be lined up for that role, despite his career tailing off a bit he has ran games at a higher level than McDonald, who I rate by the way
We need more depth than just O'Hara and McDonald offers a more defensive alternative to Jamie and a better passing range than Scott. I'm not sure the youngsters are ready for this position; controlling the tempo of the game/reading play/holding possession/organising the midfield and defence.
If the role we're expecting these players to play is the link between defense and attack, I'd want more than just one option for a 40-game season. Wouldn't you?
I agree, this would allow our younger players to mature in the game and if need be taken out of the firing line for a little bit.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 02, 2015, 10:17:49 AM
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
if true, then it would seem that kit isnt the man to bring through our youth at all, quite the opposite infact. worrying times ahead
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Quote from: Swiss72 on August 02, 2015, 10:17:49 AM
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
if true, then it would seem that kit isnt the man to bring through our youth at all, quite the opposite infact. worrying times ahead
Right now, I'd rather Kit was the sort of man to get us promoted than the sort of man to bring youth through our side.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Great signing imo. A good Premier League player on his day, better than Glen Murray in any case..
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 02, 2015, 10:17:49 AM
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
if true, then it would seem that kit isnt the man to bring through our youth at all, quite the opposite infact. worrying times ahead
Agree, at this rate all our promising youngsters, that were so good together, will be gone. Back to the drawing board Fulham!
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
That would be a very good signing and one that would probably make us play off contenders at least...with a cb actually.
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
Quote from: TWFL on August 02, 2015, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Great signing imo. A good Premier League player on his day, better than Glen Murray in any case..
its another poxy loan. would much rather keep mitro who is far superior.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
Just don't see him as a good enough player, think he suits teams more to the level of Bristol, not a team pushing for promotion and getting back to the premier league.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 02, 2015, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
That would be a very good signing and one that would probably make us play off contenders at least...with a cb actually.
Looks great sometimes,and on other occasions
looks non league.
Does he offer more than Dembele?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Not gonna get too excited about this until I see some other credible sources... Although you have to wonder how it will impact our youth. With the Dembele rumours it's slightly worrying, although in an ideal world we would offload Taggart rather than him. With all the talk in recent interviews with Rigg and Kit, the optimist in me hopes that bringing Gayle in would allow us to send dembele or Woodrow out to League 1 or abroad this season to get some solid game time. This seems to be the managements preferance for alot of these kids (although it appears, from what's been said, that some of the youngsters would rather skip this stage of their development and may feel they deserve regular first team action at this or even a higher level now).
Tough one for the club but I suppose bringing in Gayle may well be dependent on Kostas leaving too...if he does which appears likely I suppose it would be a straight battle between McCormack/Gayle/Smith/Woodrow/Dembele -with Taggart seeing little to no game. So if he doesn't want to be loaned out and won't sign a new contract I can't see Mousa wanting to stay with that much competition for places ahead of him.
In a perfect world we could keep The Greek and Dembele. But Dembele wasn't close to being good enough for a first team place last season and The Greek can sod off in a second. So makes sense to bring in a speedy forward who can play up the middle and wide. Even on loan.
Sky have posted it on their transfer centre now
Don't see why we would get rid of smith. He offers what no one but possibly Mitro (who is most likely going to leave) offers. He is big, tall, and strong. We don't have much height in our team and with pringle and the new Everton LB both with excellent crossing/deadball deliveries he could be very important.
Quote from: PeterFFC on August 02, 2015, 11:54:46 AM
Sky have posted it on their transfer centre now
Just clarified the Mirror Story.
Boro 14Million for Rhodes,good player but
overpriced if you ask me.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 02, 2015, 12:01:02 PM
Don't see why we would get rid of smith. He offers what no one but possibly Mitro (who is most likely going to leave) offers. He is big, tall, and strong. We don't have much height in our team and with pringle and the new Everton LB both with excellent crossing/deadball deliveries he could be very important.
Yes also proved he's pretty neat on the floor. We get rid of a target man and start playing with width...would make no sense.
I personalyl think Gayle will be a class signing for ourselves. We need a player who isn't scared to run with the ball, the only player close to that is Kaca from our team last season.
The signing of Pringle, Cairney and now Gayle will allow us to counter-attack quicker... if Kit lets them.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Looks like the mirror recycle message board stories. Lazy journo here?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
What does it tell you about Kit if he let's smith go?
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
it tells us that Kit doesn't rate Smith and intends to bring in someone better?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PM
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PM
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Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
which is still only 5 goals. think mjg posted a stat showing he misses the most chances a while back. we play crap ineffective route one football when he plays
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PM
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Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
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Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
well if hes that good, he will be nailed on to start for us wont he
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
well if hes that good, he will be nailed on to start for us wont he
That's the problem. Kit doesn't fancy him so even though he was second I think to Ross in goals per minute (it was close as well) he isn't started.
"Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith."
Literally describing Mitroglou here. #KeepTheGreek
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
how will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorer
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
well if hes that good, he will be nailed on to start for us wont he
Unfortunately he wont start Ben. Because we have Kit the genius tactician in charge.
We have nobody who does what Matt does. And he cost us buttons.
Keep in imo.
COYW!
Seems the argument from Smith to start fans is if you don't want him the team you know nothing.
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But the argument from the Smith to go fans is to ignore the empirical evidence that he scores goals and offers good link-play with Ross, and just say "he's rubbish, he should go"... This isn't a debate like "who's our best CB?" as there are useful statistics to quantify what Matt brings to a team, which is being flat-out ignored by those who see a tall striker and instantly brand him "a long-ball lump" - which couldn't be more wrong in this instance.
From my seat, I rate him, I do think Gayle or Mitro would be better options next to Ross, but Matt is a class above Cauley and Moussa (currently), likely to be a 15+ goal striker, can use both feet, causes trouble in the opposition box, useful for defending and attacking set-pieces, is very different from the other strikers we have and won't be costing too much.
I see no benefit in letting him go. Even from the bench or as a rotation option I think he's a valuable squad member.
Just to clarify yet again I have not said sell him or get rid. Fine for me as a plan B, but not a starter, not given the movement we need now with the players we have in midfield. They will be looking for runners and players into space.Something that Smith is not that great about.
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If Smith plays the opposition know our game plan, hoof it up to Smith, they then block him out of the game. That maybe League one football but not Championship style.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 02, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
If Smith plays the opposition know our game plan, hoof it up to Smith, they then block him out of the game. That maybe League one football but not Championship style.
Yep with that diamond last year no one knew our game plan.
But when we are hanging on for a draw or a one nil win and getting battered its a good outlet long ball hold it up lay it off either waste time, creates an opportunity or get a set piece that we are so dangerous from and if Burns on the pitch as well 2 6'4 blokes on the pitch mark them.
It not about him starting it about offering something different be able to change our style of play if we aren't doing well. Its about tatics and changing something when things arent going your way it what good managers know about
Playing Smith does not mean "hoof ball". Now we have better wide players who can cross a ball Smith would be in his element. Bristol City did not play "hoof ball" when he was on loan. The only player we have that plays "hoof ball" is Hutchinson as he knows nothing else. He does it no matter who is up front.
I do not advocate starting Smith every game, just those where the opponents are weak in CD or as something to keep other sides guessing.Rotating Smith, Dembele, Taggart to partner Ross is ideal.
I have left out Woodrow as he is not our answer for a goal scorer.
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Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 02, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
If Smith plays the opposition know our game plan, hoof it up to Smith, they then block him out of the game. That maybe League one football but not Championship style.
Yep with that diamond last year no one knew our game plan.
But when we are hanging on for a draw or a one nil win and getting battered its a good outlet long ball hold it up lay it off either waste time, creates an opportunity or get a set piece that we are so dangerous from and if Burns on the pitch as well 2 6'4 blokes on the pitch mark them.
It not about him starting it about offering something different be able to change our style of play if we aren't doing well. Its about tatics and changing something when things arent going your way it what good managers know about
i dont think smiths hold up play is that good, certainly not better than cauleys. and when you are holding on you what a striker to run it into the corners, once again not smiths strong point.
Quote from: MJG on August 02, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
Just to clarify yet again I have not said sell him or get rid. Fine for me as a plan B, but not a starter, not given the movement we need now with the players we have in midfield. They will be looking for runners and players into space.Something that Smith is not that great about.
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Yes the supersub when its 75 mins and you need a goal.
Mitrogula/Smith/Ross all at once. That should a handful for even the best defence.
No way we should lose Matt Smith in my humble opinion.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 02, 2015, 02:38:37 PM
But the argument from the Smith to go fans is to ignore the empirical evidence that he scores goals and offers good link-play with Ross, and just say "he's rubbish, he should go"... This isn't a debate like "who's our best CB?" as there are useful statistics to quantify what Matt brings to a team, which is being flat-out ignored by those who see a tall striker and instantly brand him "a long-ball lump" - which couldn't be more wrong in this instance.
From my seat, I rate him, I do think Gayle or Mitro would be better options next to Ross, but Matt is a class above Cauley and Moussa (currently), likely to be a 15+ goal striker, can use both feet, causes trouble in the opposition box, useful for defending and attacking set-pieces, is very different from the other strikers we have and won't be costing too much.
I see no benefit in letting him go. Even from the bench or as a rotation option I think he's a valuable squad member.
:plus one:
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
http://shoot.co.uk/english-quartet-chase-french-u-21-international/ (http://shoot.co.uk/english-quartet-chase-french-u-21-international/)
However, West Ham have since been in advanced talks with him according to other sources.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Suppose it depends who you are LOL, I thought the season before last he was very good and maybe one we should have looked at.
Brentford off loading another winger it seems Moses Odubajo having a medical at Hull
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Suppose it depends who you are LOL, I thought the season before last he was very good and maybe one we should have looked at.
Are we talking about the same player?
Season before last he was out on loan at Peterborough or Northampton?. Last season was his real breakthrough season. Important player for Brentford and is getting moved on because he is a "Warburton man ".
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Suppose it depends who you are LOL, I thought the season before last he was very good and maybe one we should have looked at.
Are we talking about the same player?
Season before last he was out on loan at Peterborough or Northampton?. Last season was his real breakthrough season. Important player for Brentford and is getting moved on because he is a "Warburton man ".
I believe we are I said once we went down that he was someone we should look at. Agree with you he is being moved on as he is a Warburton man.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33756128 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33756128)
Wickham to Palace confirmed
Bamford, Wickham, Murray, Campbell, Gayle - surely no space for all of them in in a 4-3-3 with Zaha and Bolasie.
1 space, 5 players.
Come on Gayle - be a hero and join us!
I am not sure if it will be or should be Gayle, but I think we need a striker. Obviously we need defenders, but also a striker. I think Trog would be fine if he stays, but if he goes we need someone a step above Smith/Woodrow/Dembele
Quote from: McBride78 on August 03, 2015, 02:00:02 PM
I am not sure if it will be or should be Gayle, but I think we need a striker. Obviously we need defenders, but also a striker. I think Trog would be fine if he stays, but if he goes we need someone a step above Smith/Woodrow/Dembele
Gayle to us has been reported by many big names - including the Times - so I think there might actually be something in it.
He's definitely a step up from Smith/Woodrow/Dembele/Taggart. Only Mitro/Ross are arguably better, but Mitro might go, Ross (rightly or wrongly) is being played deeper and we do lack pace up front.
Gayle would offer the pace to get in behind defences and will cause Championship defences plenty of problems - on loan with an option to buy would do us very well methinks!
I don't mind the loan, if theres an option to buy. I'm not a fan of loaning players generally
Frustratingly, I assume the future of Mitrolglu will have to be sorted before we can do this.
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
I don't mind the loan, if theres an option to buy. I'm not a fan of loaning players generally
He comes, we go up, he stays!
Quote from: FPT on August 03, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Hmmm, seems a bit of a random follow for nothing behind it... If he was to try and stir it he;'d follow the club or another player, surely ?
Quote from: FPT on August 03, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Not being funny, but if you look at this blokes Twitter profile, he looks about 12.
Sakari Mattila medical? I see that MJG is retweeting reports. Who is that?
Quote from: brixology on August 03, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
Sakari Mattila medical? I see that MJG is retweeting reports. Who is that?
this seasons Mark Fotheringham, purely a squad player, he players defensive midfield.
Quote from: Chutney on August 03, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: brixology on August 03, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
Sakari Mattila medical? I see that MJG is retweeting reports. Who is that?
this seasons Mark Fotheringham, purely a squad player, he players defensive midfield.
Can't see us topping Mark Fotheringham, sorry.
Quote from: FPT on August 03, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Tenuous FPT.
But it might be a good spot.
Coyw!
Another ex The Konch is off to
Bristol City.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 04, 2015, 09:07:34 AM
Another ex The Konch is off to
Bristol City.
Bristol City haven't done much in this window.
Sporting are reported as having offered 6 million euros for The Greek and are close to a deal.
Birmingham are said to have made an offer for Dwight Gayle on loan. As usual take it all with a pinch of salt.
Richard Osman @richardosman 12m12 minutes ago
I'm hearing that Fulham are buying Nada today. Will have to Google him, presumably a Spanish left back.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 04, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
Richard Osman @richardosman 12m12 minutes ago
I'm hearing that Fulham are buying Nada today. Will have to Google him, presumably a Spanish left back.
Isn't that Spanish for "it doesn't matter"?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 04, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
Richard Osman @richardosman 12m12 minutes ago
I'm hearing that Fulham are buying Nada today. Will have to Google him, presumably a Spanish left back.
Ha!
No, it's spanish for "nothing" 064.gif
I thought it was something like that.
Akpom has just gone to Hull on loan. Good signing for them, certainly.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Sporting are reported as having offered 6 million euros for The Greek and are close to a deal.
I just read A Bola and they have offered a loan deal to us, where they have upped their offer on the buy clause to 6.5 million euros.
A week or so ago it was reported that the issue was we wanted the clause on the contract to have the buy option at 7 million pounds and Sporting wanted that clause to be 5 million euros.
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Ignore. Wind up that I fell for from TFI.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Who's Douglas?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 04, 2015, 02:07:15 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Who's Douglas?
Brentford central midfielder.
didnt hear mick mention Dunk and nothing on the SKy website that he did
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
At MP or Portman Road ?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Right if he's off there I hope we've a back up!
Not sure why Ipswich, though.
Guys lying. Here to ruin his 'joke' for the second time on a second board.
I cant make head nor tail of that sentence anyway
Quote from: westcliff white on August 04, 2015, 01:14:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Sporting are reported as having offered 6 million euros for The Greek and are close to a deal.
I just read A Bola and they have offered a loan deal to us, where they have upped their offer on the buy clause to 6.5 million euros.
A week or so ago it was reported that the issue was we wanted the clause on the contract to have the buy option at 7 million pounds and Sporting wanted that clause to be 5 million euros.
Thanks for the info. It is becoming very confusing with buy clauses etc.
An ITV preview on Palace has them mentioning Murray being close to a loan move to Fulham. But that is no doubt an error on their part. They mean Gayle
They must do, for what its worth other reports in Portugal have the deal likelihood as 50/50 at best at this stage.
Quote from: jayffc on August 04, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
Guys lying. Here to ruin his 'joke' for the second time on a second board.
I heard MM on Sky and I didnt hear him mention Dunk at all, if I had missed that part or not heard correctly I am sure the Sky would have it on on eof the feeds be that the 92live feed or transfer live feed and i have not seen it on either of those.
I'm confident Dunk is coming to Fulham.
"So, McCarthy DIDN'T say he's having a medical tomorrow?!"
...why would Mick McCarthy be having a medical anyway?
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
IMHO Gayle is not worth anything close to £10M. OK as a loan but not to buy....Keep the Trog.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
If this is true, how are Middlesbrough even a contender for his signature? With Downing and others on their roster, Gayle surely would take them over the top of FFP rules, am I right?
I really hope we get Gayle though. Would make our attack that much better, especially with Ross dropping back so much, Gayle could be the one staying up top.
Oh dear, another one that won't end up being clear cut, and will drag on forever, ending in a move else where..
Boro are going Sh1t or bust for promotion. I wouldn´t like to be in their position if they miss out. Very foolish way to go about it. I seem to remember another club near us try to buy their way with a huge wage bill.
He's a Wallfemstow lad, an East 17 barra boy..... He wouldn't fancy it in the frozen norf
Sign on the dotted Dwight and stay near ya roots.
Fulham sign Mattila, a defensive midfielder. Assume that is the McDonald chase over then. We went from being willing to pay nearly £2million pound for McDonald to paying £250k for Matilla who is presumably our second choice on the list.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/04/fulham-sign-mattila (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/04/fulham-sign-mattila)
MacDonald must be gutted. The way we're set up now, the deep midfielder is more of a playmaker rather than a traditional defensive midfielder anyway
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 05:34:05 PM
Fulham sign Mattila, a defensive midfielder. Assume that is the McDonald chase over then. We went from being willing to pay nearly £2million pound for McDonald to paying £250k for Matilla who is presumably our second choice on the list.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/04/fulham-sign-mattila (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/04/fulham-sign-mattila)
Jeez I give up. Made the classic mistake of getting my hopes up when we did some solid early business now Dunk, Gayle looking increasingly unlikely.
Its obvious the club are working behind the scenes but cant see us getting the quality needed to challenge
Not entirely an aspirational signing, however, someone thinks he is good enough for the squad....... Who recommended him? Felix??
Not willing to spend. This is the type of signing we would have made last summer. Thought we had moved on from this. Where has the Roberts money gone?
Why are people having such a negative reaction to someone they've never seen play? Also why are they linking this signing to an apparent lack of intention to sign players like dunk? Talk about a knee jerk reaction...
Have we signed him to cover Tunicliffe as he is banned for first two games?????
Possibly only cost a mars bar.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
Why are people having such a negative reaction to someone they've never seen play? Also why are they linking this signing to an apparent lack of intention to sign players like dunk? Talk about a knee jerk reaction...
100% agree, its a small gamble which won't cost us a lot.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
Why are people having such a negative reaction to someone they've never seen play? Also why are they linking this signing to an apparent lack of intention to sign players like dunk? Talk about a knee jerk reaction...
Completely agree. I wont be judging any player I haven't properly seen play until I actually see them play
He could be absolutely trash for all I know, but I'd prefer to go in open minded and think that he could do a lot for us next season and Kit must also think that.
I feel our focuses right now for the season ahead should be:
Get Mitroglou happy.
Scotty P Fit.
Dunk signed.
Morale high.
I feel we'll be going into next season pretty strong if we can sort our defense out.
Blimey ...... 100 pages, mostly fuelled by Gossip....
What are we like??
Matilla has been signed as a squad player, we will probably see him in the early rounds of the cup and to cover injuries, whats everyones problem with it?
my point was I was underwhelmed due to the fact I was hoping Dunk or Gayle to be announced
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
With Bournemouth signing Gradel and Tomlin today, I doubt they'll go for him (or that Palace would even loan a striker to a competitor). Boro definitely need a new striker and QPR do too... Not convinced we'll get this one. I imagine it's either Mitro or Gayle, not both, and we're waiting on Sporting to decide...
I also think that negative judgement about the signing should be tempered by the knowledge that we have different aims as a club as well as (and most importantly IMO) different evaluators of talent.
I don't recall seeing any negative reception to Rigg's signing or his CV which is notable for his abilities in talent evaluation (his own and his scouting network). Let's allow him the benefit of the doubt with this player. He may well be this season's Chris Baird (utility player extraordinaire) or he could be a very good player who's been overlooked for any number of reasons. Of course, he may never be up to the challenge. No one knows.
Give it time.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 04, 2015, 06:03:32 PM
Blimey ...... 100 pages, mostly fuelled by Gossip....
What are we like??
downtrodden and starved for good news and positivity.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
that should help the half time shows.
You give up because of one potentially sketchy signing? All of the other signings have been good. There's still plenty of time in the window as well. This isn't even close to last year's terrible signings besides McCormack.
Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2015, 05:13:00 PM
Boro are going Sh1t or bust for promotion. I wouldn´t like to be in their position if they miss out. Very foolish way to go about it. I seem to remember another club near us try to buy their way with a huge wage bill.
And they've got away with it haven't they? May as well go for it !
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
that should help the half time shows.
It has been a too long time with no peace of mind and I'm waiting for the times to get better.......on the other hand..... don't it make my brown eyes blue.
Finally a dm. It's been years since we had a proper one. Who makes way though?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 07:47:27 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palaces former record-signing has been the clubs top scorer in each of the two seasons hes spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, its now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
that should help the half time shows.
It has been a too long time with no peace of mind and I'm waiting for the times to get better.......on the other hand..... don't it make my brown eyes blue.
Oh go on Lighthouse....
"Your just talking in your sleep"
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 07:47:27 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
that should help the half time shows.
It has been a too long time with no peace of mind and I'm waiting for the times to get better.......on the other hand..... don't it make my brown eyes blue.
One can always count on the tall flashlight! 082.gif
Dont mind if we miss out on Gayle, Would actually like to miss out on Gayle if it means we keep the Trog, Hope we get Dunk tho. In need of a CB desperately
Boro seem to be in running for gayle now.
They are noe bookies favourite
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Boro are really going for it. They've seen the huge increase in premiership money in 16/17 and decided to take a gamble and try and get there.
I actually thought more teams would go that way. It's so important to go up this season as I keep saying
Quote from: Ordar on August 04, 2015, 10:36:21 PM
Boro are really going for it. They've seen the huge increase in premiership money in 16/17 and decided to take a gamble and try and get there.
I actually thought more teams would go that way. It's so important to go up this season as I keep saying
,
They must be favorites along with Derby to be in the top 2, however, I have a sneaking suspicion they will miss out again and regret the spending
Blackburn have turned down the latest bid from Boro for Rhodes. So Gayle may well be on his way there.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 05, 2015, 11:04:49 AM
Blackburn have turned down the latest bid from Boro for Rhodes. So Gayle may well be on his way there.
I was at Rovers on Monday, they said the Boro offer for Rhodes wasn't even close to £12m.
Danny Guthrie to Blackburn - could be a good signing for them I reckon. Big step-down from Cairney, but did alright while on loan for us last year.
Sako completes deal to Palace.
Heskey has gone to Bolton.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 01:03:40 PM
Danny Guthrie to Blackburn - could be a good signing for them I reckon. Big step-down from Cairney, but did alright while on loan for us last year.
Agree he did ok for us, think we have upgraded with Cairney and OHara though.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 05, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 01:03:40 PM
Danny Guthrie to Blackburn - could be a good signing for them I reckon. Big step-down from Cairney, but did alright while on loan for us last year.
Agree he did ok for us, think we have upgraded with Cairney and OHara though.
Oh yeah, no doubt we've upgraded.
I like the new signing of a CDM. Long contract, like cairney. Given that some of our young players have yet to sign a long term deal this gives us long term cover at two positions.
Hear Kevin Prince Boateng has failed his medical at Sporting, expecting a new bid for Kostas...
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 02:43:04 PM
Hear Kevin Prince Boateng has failed his medical at Sporting, expecting a new bid for Kostas...
Not really a striker is he
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 05, 2015, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 02:43:04 PM
Hear Kevin Prince Boateng has failed his medical at Sporting, expecting a new bid for Kostas...
Not really a striker is he
A powerful CAM/SS/CF. He might get listed as a CM/CAM by some, but he tends to play in the final third and rarely drops into his own half.
Regardless, the point being that wages/fees are freed-up. Negotiations with us were supposedly just £500k apart, so - with Benfica rumoured to be interested now - Sporting might use some of the wages they're saving on Prince to push the Mitrog deal through.
Benfica have plenty to spend, just got 7 million for Lima.
Crystal Palace put huge price tags on Yannick Bolasie and Dwight Gayle amid Spurs and Norwich interest
(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4679481.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Crystal-Palace-v-Liverpool-Premier-League.jpg)
Crystal Palace are scaring off suitors interested in Yannick Bolasie and Dwight Gayle by putting huge prices on their head.
Several Premier League rivals including Spurs have enquired at Selhurst Park about Bolasie.
But Palace chairman Steve Parish wants well over £20million for the talented Congo international winger.
And MirrorSport understands Parish has even slapped a £10m price tag on striker Gayle's head.
Gayle is willing to move as he is not guaranteed regular first football at Palace.
But Parish feels Palace are entitled to a profit on the £6m they paid Peterborough for the forward in July 2013.
Parish believes Gayle, 24, has since proved himself in the Premier League and has quoted interested parties like Norwich double figures for him.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-put-huge-price-6197850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-put-huge-price-6197850)
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
:plus one:
Keep Kostus a lot
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
I agree.
I feel many foreign players dismiss 2nd tier football. However, the claim that premiership is the best league in the world is clearly rubbish but I'd argue that the championship must be the best 2nd tier in the world.
At the top end, its a bloody fun league. I think if Kostas gave it a go, he'd love it. Clearly, promotion would be the key factor.
I bet if you asked Louis Saha what was one of his seasons which he enjoyed most, that season must run high. It was for me.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 05, 2015, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
I agree.
I feel many foreign players dismiss 2nd tier football. However, the claim that premiership is the best league in the world is clearly rubbish but I'd argue that the championship must be the best 2nd tier in the world.
At the top end, its a bloody fun league. I think if Kostas gave it a go, he'd love it. Clearly, promotion would be the key factor.
I bet if you asked Louis Saha what was one of his seasons which he enjoyed most, that season must run high. It was for me.
Saha was 22? when he came to Fulham, bit of an unknown entity, didn't do well on loan at Newcastle, was playing for Metz. Yes he smashed the league a possibly enjoyed it, but Kostas is a completely different entity. He came to Fulham boasting Champions League experience, wanting Premiership football, plus he's 27 without time on his side.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 05, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 05, 2015, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
I agree.
I feel many foreign players dismiss 2nd tier football. However, the claim that premiership is the best league in the world is clearly rubbish but I'd argue that the championship must be the best 2nd tier in the world.
At the top end, its a bloody fun league. I think if Kostas gave it a go, he'd love it. Clearly, promotion would be the key factor.
I bet if you asked Louis Saha what was one of his seasons which he enjoyed most, that season must run high. It was for me.
Saha was 22? when he came to Fulham, bit of an unknown entity, didn't do well on loan at Newcastle, was playing for Metz. Yes he smashed the league a possibly enjoyed it, but Kostas is a completely different entity. He came to Fulham boasting Champions League experience, wanting Premiership football, plus he's 27 without time on his side.
I get that. So, go to Sporting Lisbon and do what? Probably finish 3rd or 4th in the league, knocked out early in Europe.
I think what I am saying is if he played a few games, felt loved by us and we play well, I just think it might seem a better alternative.
Kostas belongs to Benfica now. Saga ends.
Kostas in Lisbon to sign for Benfica tomorrow on loan.
http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=3&id=563856 (http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=3&id=563856)
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
That is a terrible decision by the club
:((((((((
Step forward Moussa
mistake if you ask me
Why loan the guy? Either sell him to get money for a new signing, or keep him to bang in goals for us. Any money we make from the loan will be deducted from any transfer fee we get for him in the end due to his contract being shorter. If true then its a stupid decision by the club.
as I understand when there is a loan fee and a clause in the contract for a buy price, you do not deduct the loan fee menacing the whole clause is paid. either way I agree we should sell not loan I owed prefer to use him rather than loan him, he could rip this division apart
It's why anyone is surprised that gets me.I've been saying for ages this will be one of our worst windows ever
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:09:47 PM
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
sorry but when did it ever look like it was? Forget what the three amigos said, and when did our transfer dealings make us look like contenders. We are weakening our squad to the cheers of some
Looks like you lot didn't do your bit to #KeepTheGreek
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 07:14:11 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:09:47 PM
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
sorry but when did it ever look like it was? Forget what the three amigos said, and when did our transfer dealings make us look like contenders. We are weakening our squad to the cheers of some
When it was possible that we were going to hang on to Mitroglou and/or bring in Gayle and sign Dunk and maybe another CB before the start of the season. The championship is easy if you make it so. I guess the disappointment is my fault though for being naive enough to think things may change though.
Of course all of the above could still happen before the window shuts, but let's be honest, it probably won't!
perhaps with the trog gone we can afford Dunks wages demands,
There is still 3 weeks to go for the window to close, but there appears to be very little ambition, which has been the pattern for a while. We have had more leave than join, and there is room for at least two more players, but the clubs lack of ambition is affecting their judgement.
Maybe I'm forgetting someone, but loosely, this is the roster overhaul...
Additions: Cairney (nice signing), Pringle (useful), O'Hara (wait and see on conditioning, looks useful), Richards (not impressed), Lonergan (maybe more commanding than Betts, but not much better, if at all)
Removals: Ruiz, Rodallega, Roberts, Amorebieta (basically), Mitroglou (again)
Ehhhhhh ... there's a LOT of work left to do. Our defense is a disaster waiting to happen again, and we have no reliable strikers beyond Ross. It's a boring, mid-table team as constituted.
Quote from: Nero on August 05, 2015, 07:19:55 PM
perhaps with the trog gone we can afford Dunks wages demands,
I thought the transfer fee was the stumbling block
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 07:14:11 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:09:47 PM
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
sorry but when did it ever look like it was? Forget what the three amigos said, and when did our transfer dealings make us look like contenders. We are weakening our squad to the cheers of some
When it was possible that we were going to hang on to Mitroglou and/or bring in Gayle and sign Dunk and maybe another CB before the start of the season. The championship is easy if you make it so. I guess the disappointment is my fault though for being naive enough to think things may change though.
Of course all of the above could still happen before the window shuts, but let's be honest, it probably won't!
yes I can get that. I'm way too negative and that's why I think like I do. Unfortunately the things that we are doing of late reinforce my fears
If the window was to end tonight, how would people rate it?
Average
Decent. It would mean we kept Trog and him and Ross would be a force up front
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 05, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
If the window was to end tonight, how would people rate it?
With Kostas gone, my rating would be "Poor", given the stated ambition(s).
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 05, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
If the window was to end tonight, how would people rate it?
With Kostas gone, my rating would be "Poor", given the stated ambition(s).
Agreed. Foundations are there for a good squad. The defense is laughable and we seem to be playing a gifted CM at RW (The main reason he was supposedly upset at Rovers). Seems Kit and the team never learn their lessons and play the simple game. Good players in the right positions.
We need another striker and 2 CB's at least.
Poor, in so far as we've lost our largest asset (Pat), our two most talented players (Bryan and Mitro), not sorted the contract situations of some of our most important players (Hyndman, Dembele and Betts are just 3 of a vast number in their final year) and not strengthened the area we needed to most.
I would say that I am very pleased with the additions of Cairney, Pringle and O'Hara though, and 2/3 more players of that ilk could transform this window from poor to very good.
FFCs decisions baffle me!!!
Sambou's on trial at Bolton!
Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 05, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
Sambou's on trial at Bolton!
Good luck to him!
Hope he can forge a decent career in football, even if not with us.
Here come the bad old days all over again! My ol man has always said "don't get to carried away, we always end up being let down!"
He's been watching the Whites since the 40s and has given up getting excited.
If we were really going for promotion then we would have pushed the boat out on a couple of targets/decisions. Be prepared for a mid table finish and loss of further youth potential!
Poor decision to loan Mitroglou. My optimism about promotion is quickly fading due to these strange decisions & our lack of a central defender coming in.
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
That just wouldn't be the way of some on here. Up until the latest RUMOR about the Trog, it was all peaches and cream because of the signing of three Championship level mids. Even the Khan bashing had subsided, except for a very few. Now we're back at it again. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, even if it puts Chicken Little to shame. But that is just my opinion. fp.gif
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
What is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
What is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
#1 case in point.
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 05, 2015, 11:07:43 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
What is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
#1 case in point.
not really. I am one of those few that you mentioned. I can see how we are stripping the squad of quality, and I don't see what you do to suggest that we will some how magically reassemble a decent squad.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Sorry but, I've had tried having faith since the Dems left us. At some point, those words begin falling on deaf ears/eyes.
We signed a Champions League striker to a contract a season and a half ago....to a long term deal. He knew he was coming to a club that was knee deep in a relegation scrap and that there was a fair enough chance at being relegated. He made a decision to take the money anyway. Now when his responsibilities don't match with his high sense of self worth he doesn't want to work for the club that pays his bills. Fair enough as well as we knew that would likely be the case. But he's a striker that is unmatched in this league.
Having said that, he could be called upon to help fire us back up into a league where both parties could make good on the contract they signed. Our stated ambition is promotion now yet, we've let him off the hook yet again without much hope of finding a replacement with half his talent. If Ruiz can stay and work for the club, then the Greek can.
None of our best youngsters will sign a new contract & they will all be off. Nothing we can do about it. Betts, Hyndman, Dembele & LVC have all been got at & had their heads turned by the Roberts situation.
If they all leave they are all fools & I wouldn´t want them if they had no intention of going along the Fulham pathway.
We just will have to get over it & hope that the money gets re-invested NOW.
06 Aug 2015 05:16:48
Rumour doing the rounds last night,Fulham
have turned their attention to Sunderland
Striker Steven Fletcher.
Only stumbling block is wages,but
he is keen on the move.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 06, 2015, 09:40:24 AM
06 Aug 2015 05:16:48
Rumour doing the rounds last night,Fulham
have turned their attention to Sunderland
Striker Steven Fletcher.
Only stumbling block is wages,but
he is keen on the move.
Fletcher's been crap for years now. More interested in cars that goals.
If Mitro goes and Gayles not an option I'd rather we stick with what we've got or go for someone like Gary Hooper, who was scoring regularly last year, is nearing the end of their contract and could do a job in this league.
Kiss Gayle goodbye then :dft007:
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if true not a bad option to have. fletcher is better than smith
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Well Boro are offering a permanent move and Fulham were offering a loan move. I think it is frustrating when players are mentioned as being close to signing but aren't However blaming the manager for everything is short sighted and thinking that hard nose agents are going to believe in the magic of Fulham above other clubs is naive.
We were linked with Fletcher in January and his name crops up again. now. We will lose and we will bring in players by the end of the window. But we are just a club trying to work in a sustainable manner. We have been for years and it hasn't worked. Too late to change now.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Even if we don't get all of the Pat money up front (I think it was maybe an initial £4m), we've also saved the wages of Bryan/Rod and possibly Mitro too (plus his loan fee) which - if all 3 were on £45k p/w and £1m loan fee received - is another £8m.
I don't want us to be stupid and splash cash left-right-and-centre, but there's surely some more wriggle-room for a bit more spending than we've done. Particularly when most feel we're just 2/3 players from a proper promotion challenge, you'd think it'd be worth getting a few extras in.
Photo of Mitroglou is Lisbon airport - http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=3&id=563922 (http://www.abola.pt/clubes/ver.aspx?t=3&id=563922)
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 06, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Even if we don't get all of the Pat money up front (I think it was maybe an initial £4m), we've also saved the wages of Bryan/Rod and possibly Mitro too (plus his loan fee) which - if all 3 were on £45k p/w and £1m loan fee received - is another £8m.
I don't want us to be stupid and splash cash left-right-and-centre, but there's surely some more wriggle-room for a bit more spending than we've done. Particularly when most feel we're just 2/3 players from a proper promotion challenge, you'd think it'd be worth getting a few extras in.
if we are 8 million to the good on transfers then that is not necessarily enough to satisfy ffp..
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 06, 2015, 09:55:15 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 06, 2015, 09:40:24 AM
06 Aug 2015 05:16:48
Rumour doing the rounds last night,Fulham
have turned their attention to Sunderland
Striker Steven Fletcher.
Only stumbling block is wages,but
he is keen on the move.
Fletcher's been crap for years now. More interested in cars that goals.
If Mitro goes and Gayles not an option I'd rather we stick with what we've got or go for someone like Gary Hooper, who was scoring regularly last year, is nearing the end of their contract and could do a job in this league.
I too would be delighted with Flethcher. I don't think we would pay the fee and his wages. Coupled with the fact Sunderland have just sold Wickham I doubt very much this one has any legs unfortunately.
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
So when we sign a good player it's well done rigg but when we miss out on one its Kit's fault? Some of you will find any excuse to bash our manager.
Sorry craven mad i think i misread your post regarding numbers. However, point remains. The club is trying to stay within the rules. We cant necessarily offer good long contracts to our youngsters or be an attractive transfer because we are limited on what we can spend
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2015, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
So when we sign a good player it's well done rigg but when we miss out on one its Kit's fault? Some of you will find any excuse to bash our manager.
Personally, I'm not to big on Rigg. Good cheap business at the beginning, but we're hardly pushing he boat out to attract decent acquisitions. Either his call, or the call is coming from up top.
"We need players that fit into the mould of FFC" In other words, cheap.
Mitroglou is one strange lookin guy
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
We have not received 11m, about half of that is future payments on how he does.
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
We have not received 11m, about half of that is future payments on how he does.
Still though... Even with half of that cash we should be able to afford a cb.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
We have not received 11m, about half of that is future payments on how he does.
Still though... Even with half of that cash we should be able to afford a cb.
We are trying to sign one.
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2015, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
So when we sign a good player it's well done rigg but when we miss out on one its Kit's fault? Some of you will find any excuse to bash our manager.
No I mentioned Rigg as well not be able to convince him but at least Rigg sounds like he wants to drive the Club forward. Kit for me sounds like he still cant believe he's got the job and just happy to have it. Can I ask you, do you find Kit inspiring in the way he either acts or talks? because for me he doesn't but different things motivate different people
Can we keep this transfer thread about transfers and speculation. We don't need it to become another stick to beat the manager or the club with.
Meanwhile
A couple of news outlets have said a Boro spokesman has denied any interest in Gayle. Read into that what you wish.
Middlesbrough not interested.
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/dwight-gayle-boro-deny-speculation-9801474 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/dwight-gayle-boro-deny-speculation-9801474)
I wouldn't believe that article.
The EG got their Tomlin stories completely wrong - announcing a couple of hours before the transfer there were no discussions at all.
Boro fan ITK has been told discussions for a 12 month loan are close to complete, but there are concerns the player favours a Southern team, but none have come in so far.
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Agree. Kit doesn't strike me as an inspiring motivational manager at all. Grey man syndrome, rather dull.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on August 06, 2015, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Agree. Kit doesn't strike me as an inspiring motivational manager at all. Grey man syndrome, rather dull.
I said that on another thread and someone said that he found him inspiring.
Mark Fotheringham training and coaching with a Norwegian side - http://www.aftenbladet.no/100Sport/fotball/forstediv/Fulham-spiller-trener-med-Sandnes-Ulf-578575_1.snd? (http://www.aftenbladet.no/100Sport/fotball/forstediv/Fulham-spiller-trener-med-Sandnes-Ulf-578575_1.snd?)
Alex Harris @Alex_Harris1991 14s15 seconds ago
Move for Wolves' Kevin McDonald is dead. #FFC
Kit confirms we have signed Mattila instead of McDonald - http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-end-pursuit-of-wolves-star? (http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-end-pursuit-of-wolves-star?)
Quote from: Domino 1879 on August 06, 2015, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Agree. Kit doesn't strike me as an inspiring motivational manager at all. Grey man syndrome, rather dull.
Sorry but I was under the misapprehension that this was a transfer rumours thread?
Apparently, Gayle stayed for two hours after the Palace game to talk to Fulham.
Here is the link for the Twitter post - https://mobile.twitter.com/fulham_neil/status/629041505899053056
Not unusual to be interest in good players. Every player has a price, and while we want Lewis to stay I can't guarantee he will. #BHAFC quote from Brighton chairman
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 06, 2015, 07:25:14 PM
Not unusual to be interest in good players. Every player has a price, and while we want Lewis to stay I can't guarantee he will. #BHAFC quote from Brighton chairman
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From Brighton forum, comment about fans forum tonight at the Amex
"Dunk looks to be a goner, which begs the question of just who do we have at
center half barring Greer who is definite first team material "
Come on Fulham wrap it up.
Karanka has confirmed Boro's interest in Gayle...
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Or, y'know, Sky could be wrong?
With 3 weeks to go, without stating the obvious, we need a comanding CB who lso has a bit of pace.
But I hope might also get some pace in MF or in forwards.
I won't hold my breath, as Kit seems to want to pass his way past the opposition given the new signings.
Can't see it working, opponents will get everyone back behind the ball and
catch us on the break, much like many games last season.
You wonder did h not se that happening last year?
Not really transfer news but good news nonetheless - Lucca de la Torre signed his first pro deal today.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 06, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Not really transfer news but good news nonetheless - Lucca de la Torre signed his first pro deal today.
That'll be him gone next year then!
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
What is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
To be fair, I could see us bottom of the table in. 3 weeks time. Based on our manager's past record and the lack of defense.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Just because they had talks doesn't mean they went well. Pat Roberts had talks with us and even bought his parents with him, he is dead to me now
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 07:54:54 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Just because they had talks doesn't mean they went well. Pat Roberts had talks with us and even bought his parents with him, he is dead to me now
He is "dead to you"???
Whether or not you're happy with his decision you should be wishing him the best of successes - we've only got £4-5m up front, the rest is based on performances and maybe a sell-on too.
Good luck, Pat, even if just so we can get some more cash from the deal!
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 08:19:07 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 07:54:54 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Just because they had talks doesn't mean they went well. Pat Roberts had talks with us and even bought his parents with him, he is dead to me now
He is "dead to you"???
Whether or not you're happy with his decision you should be wishing him the best of successes - we've only got £4-5m up front, the rest is based on performances and maybe a sell-on too.
Good luck, Pat, even if just so we can get some more cash from the deal!
well personally I couldn't give a flying ahem about some city kid. Especially one that didn't care enough about us
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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If Palace want £10m and won't be open to a loan as reported, then we won't be in for him.
Quote from: bucksfulham on August 07, 2015, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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If Palace want £10m and won't be open to a loan as reported, then we won't be in for him.
Good id rather go knocking on Blackburns door at that kind of price to buy
agree MJG if that was the case get Rhodes. But assuming we go up maybe the club are thinking we have Mitro coming back can we sustain 3 x 10+ million strikers (going on reported fees which bare no semblance to actuality)
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
tigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
Quote from: westcliff white on August 07, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
agree MJG if that was the case get Rhodes. But assuming we go up maybe the club are thinking we have Mitro coming back can we sustain 3 x 10+ million strikers (going on reported fees which bare no semblance to actuality)
Well we won't go up without that sort of fire power.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
tigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
Yes, he did that but he also brought in PL-quality players into a 2nd-tier team. This time around, the club seems to be shifting those players out in order to bring in 2nd-tier players "with Championship experience".
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:41:29 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
tigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
Yes, he did that but he also brought in PL-quality players into a 2nd-tier team. This time around, the club seems to be shifting those players out in order to bring in 2nd-tier players "with Championship experience".
well yes. But I don't believe that we have any real ambition to make it into the top 6. Mo wanted prem football and paid for it. Shad says he does, but doesn't look like he will gamble any money on trying to get it.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:44:34 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:41:29 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
tigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
Yes, he did that but he also brought in PL-quality players into a 2nd-tier team. This time around, the club seems to be shifting those players out in order to bring in 2nd-tier players "with Championship experience".
well yes. But I don't believe that we have any real ambition to make it into the top 6. Mo wanted prem football and paid for it. Shad says he does, but doesn't look like he will gamble any money on trying to get it.
Maybe but even when we actually had the players and didn't even need to acquire them we still sought to get rid like they were hot to the touch.
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Main reason is money, then you had Tigana and his coaching team and finally we were a team on the up after recent promotions and money being thrown at PL players to join.
We could not keep the players from the season we went down for various reasons discussed many times. But we are where we are now, with a much younger squad for sure and only a couple, maybe three, players away from a good team.
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Any centre backs due today, before we put in a carbon-copy defensive display down at Cardiff, which will replicate something from last season, leaving us all cursing "Would you believe it, another bloody set piece".
No.... didn't think so.
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
You can expect a team's top, top assets to get sold on relegation - mainly to save wages etc. Mitro/Hugo/Amo/Bryan/Stek will have been on the highest wages - shifting those probably saved in the region of £10m in wages per year.
Our main problem is that we had a strong team [more than good enough for this league] but most of our decent players were ditched by Felix and replaced with dross. Now trying to attract decent players is tough as we don't have the premier league status, nor a good enough squad to convince players they'll only be in the Championship for one year.
Stockdale is the exact sort of keeper we need to be challenging with Betts. Heitinga/Hangeland are better CBs today than any of our current options. Richardson is the LB we need in this league. Kasami would boss the box-to-box midfield role or any of the AM roles we're using this season. Dejagah would offer the pace/skill we miss on the right of midfield. Even Baird, who went slightly earlier, is now captaining the title favourites and he wasn't even one of our best players that year - he's exactly the sort of DM we need right now.
Felix did some massive damage to our team and I think we're still in the process of trying to recover, but I'm expecting it to be a few more years of building before we're back on track.
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
I think Alfayed wrote off £200M in debts he built up. I think Khan wants to do things in a more buiness like way and minimise the debt.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
You can expect a team's top, top assets to get sold on relegation - mainly to save wages etc. Mitro/Hugo/Amo/Bryan/Stek will have been on the highest wages - shifting those probably saved in the region of £10m in wages per year.
Our main problem is that we had a strong team [more than good enough for this league] but most of our decent players were ditched by Felix and replaced with dross. Now trying to attract decent players is tough as we don't have the premier league status, nor a good enough squad to convince players they'll only be in the Championship for one year.
Stockdale is the exact sort of keeper we need to be challenging with Betts. Heitinga/Hangeland are better CBs today than any of our current options. Richardson is the LB we need in this league. Kasami would boss the box-to-box midfield role or any of the AM roles we're using this season. Dejagah would offer the pace/skill we miss on the right of midfield. Even Baird, who went slightly earlier, is now captaining the title favourites and he wasn't even one of our best players that year - he's exactly the sort of DM we need right now.
Felix did some massive damage to our team and I think we're still in the process of trying to recover, but I'm expecting it to be a few more years of building before we're back on track.
So many more that I'd forgotten already - Richardson, Heitinga etc. So you're saying that the problem is lack of attraction for players who need to have confidence that we're going somewhere - Tigana cf. Kit.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
You can expect a team's top, top assets to get sold on relegation - mainly to save wages etc. Mitro/Hugo/Amo/Bryan/Stek will have been on the highest wages - shifting those probably saved in the region of £10m in wages per year.
Our main problem is that we had a strong team [more than good enough for this league] but most of our decent players were ditched by Felix and replaced with dross. Now trying to attract decent players is tough as we don't have the premier league status, nor a good enough squad to convince players they'll only be in the Championship for one year.
Stockdale is the exact sort of keeper we need to be challenging with Betts. Heitinga/Hangeland are better CBs today than any of our current options. Richardson is the LB we need in this league. Kasami would boss the box-to-box midfield role or any of the AM roles we're using this season. Dejagah would offer the pace/skill we miss on the right of midfield. Even Baird, who went slightly earlier, is now captaining the title favourites and he wasn't even one of our best players that year - he's exactly the sort of DM we need right now.
Felix did some massive damage to our team and I think we're still in the process of trying to recover, but I'm expecting it to be a few more years of building before we're back on track.
But most of these players you quote would be unaffordable from a wages point of view unless Khan was prepared to risk FFP and huge financial loss, which he does not want. I personally much prefer our new much younger squad with potential to improve. We need one or two central defenders and maybe a striker, however if Dembele comes good this season it could make a massive difference.
Interesting last few posts (deserve a thread of their own)..... but where's the transfer rumour in them???
Quote from: snarks on August 07, 2015, 10:14:07 AM
Interesting last few posts (deserve a thread of their own)..... but where's the transfer rumour in them???
the rumour is that we cant attract any decent players for what ever reason, wages, manager, lack of ambition etc
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: snarks on August 07, 2015, 10:14:07 AM
Interesting last few posts (deserve a thread of their own)..... but where's the transfer rumour in them???
the rumour is that we cant attract any decent players for what ever reason, wages, manager, lack of ambition etc
not a transfer rumour tho' is it? more of a non transfer rumour
Mesca's gone: "Buomesca Tue Na Bangna has joined Limassol permanently. We'd like to wish Mesca all the best > http://ow.ly/QBY4M (http://ow.ly/QBY4M)"
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 12:15:58 PM
Mesca's gone: "Buomesca Tue Na Bangna has joined Limassol permanently. We'd like to wish Mesca all the best > http://ow.ly/QBY4M (http://ow.ly/QBY4M)"
he never seemed to quite make that next step. Good luck to him
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2015, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 12:15:58 PM
Mesca's gone: "Buomesca Tue Na Bangna has joined Limassol permanently. We'd like to wish Mesca all the best > http://ow.ly/QBY4M (http://ow.ly/QBY4M)"
he never seemed to quite make that next step. Good luck to him
Thought he might make it but injuries seemed to plague his progression. Hope he has more luck elsewhere, but definitely the right time for him to move on.
QPR have signed a defender.
Doesn't look like Gayle will be going to Boro
Cristhian Stuani: Middlesbrough cleared to sign Espanyol striker
Espanyol striker Cristhian Stuani has been confirmed as a Middlesbrough player after the Championship club received international clearance.
Uruguay international Stuani, 28, agreed terms with Boro last month and had been training with the squad while waiting for paperwork to be completed.
He cost the Teessiders £2.8m from the La Liga club, after scoring 16 goals in 48 appearances last season.
Stuani will wear the number 18 shirt for Aitor Karanka's side.
We need to move on from Dunk & bring back Michael Turner & put in a decent bud for Stearman.
Dunk starts tonight, but then it could be we have agreed a deal to sign him after next Saturday or it could not. Have heard Newcastle sniffing around him as well.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 07, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
We need to move on from Dunk & bring back Michael Turner & put in a decent bud for Stearman.
Please not Stearman, he has experience in this league yes, but he just isn't very good!
Quote from: W.G.Fulham on August 07, 2015, 07:56:25 PM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 07, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
We need to move on from Dunk & bring back Michael Turner & put in a decent bud for Stearman.
Please not Stearman, he has experience in this league yes, but he just isn't very good!
Didn't he win Wolves' player of the year?
Cant believe there's any chance of signing Dunk if hes playing for Brighton tonight, there taking us for a ride.
Quote from: mikestrand on August 07, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
Cant believe there's any chance of signing Dunk if hes playing for Brighton tonight, there taking us for a ride.
Well, Mitroglou played on Saturday and left this week so anything's possible.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 07, 2015, 08:07:48 PM
Quote from: mikestrand on August 07, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
Cant believe there's any chance of signing Dunk if hes playing for Brighton tonight, there taking us for a ride.
Well, Mitroglou played on Saturday and left this week so anything's possible.
lol
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 08, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
I'll be very surprised if these happen but it would certainly lift the doom and gloom surrounding our club right now!
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 08, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
These sorts of posts just tear me to pieces: on the one hand I know they're made up, on the other hand I'm so desperate for them to be true that I try to believe them...
lol Craven Mad the joys of being a Fulham fan mate. I feel exactly the same. If I read a rumour about signing Ronaldo I would half believe it such is my desperation. The mind plays tricks with me and makes me feel anything could happen.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 08, 2015, 10:08:44 AM
lol Craven Mad the joys of being a Fulham fan mate. I feel exactly the same. If I read a rumour about signing Ronaldo I would half believe it such is my desperation. The mind plays tricks with me and makes me feel anything could happen.
Haha, anything can happen (well almost). Fingers crossed and keep the faith.
Please please please can we just got dunk in, and give him a 5 year deal. Pay 5m if that's what it takes
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 08, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
Posted by the same person who has his finger on the teamsheet..... hhmmm
We live in hope.
West Ham offered transfer of Dimitar Berbatov as he eyes a return to the Premier League
The 34-year-old striker is clubless after being released by Monaco and his representatives have also approached Aston Villa and Leicester
Dimitar Berbatov has been offered to West Ham, writes the Sunday People.
Former Tottenham, Manchester United and Fulham striker Berbatov is desperate to get back to the Premier League after French club Monaco decided not to offer him a new deal.
Representatives acting on his behalf have also alerted Aston Villa and Leicester to the fact England is his desired destination.
And the Hammers are the latest club to be asked if they would consider a move for the 34-year-old Bulgaria international.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-offered-transfer-dimitar-6220109 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-offered-transfer-dimitar-6220109)
The official twitter account of MK DONS has announced the signing of Dwight Gayle on a season long loan. :005: No really.
It's a spoof. Note the "CF" instead of "FC" at the end of the name.
Thought I'd bump this thread back to the front page and share the news that SSN are reporting Boro have a £4m bid accepted for David Nugent.
Could this spell an end to any interest in Dwight Gayle??
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 10, 2015, 10:18:32 AM
Thought I'd bump this thread back to the front page and share the news that SSN are reporting Boro have a £4m bid accepted for David Nugent.
Could this spell an end to any interest in Dwight Gayle??
Jesus, 4m for nugent seems steep.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 10, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 10, 2015, 10:18:32 AM
Thought I'd bump this thread back to the front page and share the news that SSN are reporting Boro have a £4m bid accepted for David Nugent.
Could this spell an end to any interest in Dwight Gayle??
Jesus, 4m for nugent seems steep.
Not for a proven championship goalscorer, will get 15 plus goals if he played 40 plus games this season. Almost a guarantee with him.
Tarkowski shrugs off 'speculation' after Fulham are linked
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James Tarkowski has shrugged off reports he could leave Brentford before the transfer window closes.
Fulham have been linked with the defender, who has two years remaining on his contract at Griffin Park.
"It was just speculation for me," said the 22-year-old.
"I'm contracted to Brentford, so I just play. If they tell me I have got to move and they tell me to go, I'll go. But it's not my choice. I'm just here to play football."
Meanwhile, Hull City plan to table another bid for Bees striker Andre Gray, having previously had an offer rejected.
And Tarkowski has no doubt that his team-mate, who netted 18 goals last season and scored after coming on as a substitute in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Ipswich, will go from strength to strength.
"He has so much potential and he had a great year last year," said the former Oldham centre-back.
"I'd love for him to stay. There seems to be a lot of speculation about a lot of different people at the moment but we have to put that to back of our heads and get on with our football."
http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/tarkowski-shrugs-off-speculation-after-fulham-are-linked-with-bees-star-wls-football (http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/tarkowski-shrugs-off-speculation-after-fulham-are-linked-with-bees-star-wls-football)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 10, 2015, 10:54:51 AM
Tarkowski shrugs off 'speculation' after Fulham are linked
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James Tarkowski has shrugged off reports he could leave Brentford before the transfer window closes.
Fulham have been linked with the defender, who has two years remaining on his contract at Griffin Park.
"It was just speculation for me," said the 22-year-old.
"I'm contracted to Brentford, so I just play. If they tell me I have got to move and they tell me to go, I'll go. But it's not my choice. I'm just here to play football."
Meanwhile, Hull City plan to table another bid for Bees striker Andre Gray, having previously had an offer rejected.
And Tarkowski has no doubt that his team-mate, who netted 18 goals last season and scored after coming on as a substitute in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Ipswich, will go from strength to strength.
"He has so much potential and he had a great year last year," said the former Oldham centre-back.
"I'd love for him to stay. There seems to be a lot of speculation about a lot of different people at the moment but we have to put that to back of our heads and get on with our football."
http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/tarkowski-shrugs-off-speculation-after-fulham-are-linked-with-bees-star-wls-football (http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/tarkowski-shrugs-off-speculation-after-fulham-are-linked-with-bees-star-wls-football)
"I'm contracted to Brentford, so I just play. If they tell me I have got to move and they tell me to go, I'll go."
To me, that doesn't sound like a player who's gagging to stay at Brentford and is open to a move. PUT IN A BID, RIGG!
Tark looked like a beast this weekend. Goal and an assist in that match.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 08, 2015, 10:08:44 AM
lol Craven Mad the joys of being a Fulham fan mate. I feel exactly the same. If I read a rumour about signing Ronaldo I would half believe it such is my desperation. The mind plays tricks with me and makes me feel anything could happen.
I once imagined that we'd signed Berbatov but then I must have woken up. It was just a nightmare and we'd been relegated.
Joey Barton to have a medical at West Ham.
Dunk to Fulham seems to have surfaced again on the Brighton forum, see the last few pages.
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?324781-Dunk-to-join-Fulham-this-week/page17 (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?324781-Dunk-to-join-Fulham-this-week/page17)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 10, 2015, 02:53:12 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 10, 2015, 02:07:46 PM
Joey Barton to have a medical at West Ham.
Let's hope they give him a brain scan while there at it.
You're talking about a club that has Julian ducks on it coaching staff. Could be interesting
Birmingham sign Noe Baba
Quote from: spikey norman on August 10, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
Birmingham sign Noe Baba
So they see something in him? Interesting.
forest accept Burnley's 4 million bid for Henri Lansbury
Fulham to sign Lewis Dunk on Thursday. No source but misguided delusion.
a week Thursday I will think would be more likely they wont sell him to us before our game this weekend
Quote from: westcliff white on August 10, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
forest accept Burnley's 4 million bid for Henri Lansbury
Decent signing
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Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
Quote from: westcliff white on August 10, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
forest accept Burnley's 4 million bid for Henri Lansbury
Ain't that Miss Marple?
Brighton fan on their forum seems to think there is a buy out clause for Lewis Dunk of £5 million, should we hit the buy it now button?
Yes.
I think it's a no-brainer.
He's probably worth £4m, but if he helps get us promoted he'll be worth way more than that to us and we'll be quids-in on the deal.
I would like to make it clear that we have not accepted any bid for Henri Lansbury. #nffc
Owner of Notts forest
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This Lansbury situation has been weird throughout. Both sides saying completely opposite things. Same thing happened weeks ago at a lower price.
Forest would be silly to let him go, but £4m is a fairly decent price.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 10, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Brighton fan on their forum seems to think there is a buy out clause for Lewis Dunk of £5 million, should we hit the buy it now button?
no we will wait until his has a blinder against us then bid 4.25m
Get Dunk right now, we payed £2.5million for Chris Coleman 17 years ago, £5mill nothing these days
Quote from: Nero on August 10, 2015, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on August 10, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Brighton fan on their forum seems to think there is a buy out clause for Lewis Dunk of £5 million, should we hit the buy it now button?
no we will wait until his has a blinder against us then bid 4.25m
Or he will have a stinker and we offer £3m!!
I will be extremely annoyed if he has got a £5m buyout clause. Mucking about for the sake of 1m when we could have got him in weeks ago and familiarised himself with the club/system is rediculous. Especially when it's our number 1 position of need
Quote from: mkras99 on August 10, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
HITC is pretty flakey for rumours, but I'd be pretty pleased if this was true.
I reckon Williams is underrated considering he's still only 21.
I don't see the problem in paying 5 million for Dunk. At 23, I can only see him getting better, so the next stop will be the Premiership for him, with or without Fulham. That being the case, we can easily sell Dunk for more money, or even make a killing on him, if he becomes exceptional.
We've pussy footed around with this deal for far to long now, that it's become strangely odd, unless we've already agreed a deal with Brighton and he joins after our game.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 11, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
I don't see the problem in paying 5 million for Dunk. At 23, I can only see him getting better, so the next stop will be the Premiership for him, with or without Fulham. That being the case, we can easily sell Dunk for more money, or even make a killing on him, if he becomes exceptional.
We've pussy footed around with this deal for far to long now, that it's become strangely odd, unless we've already agreed a deal with Brighton and he joins after our game.
Surely if we have signed him it will be announced Friday at a time where he cant be registered to play in the game otherwise if he plays i would say he isnt coming
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
and if he gets injured?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
Because he might not try too hard against his hope of PL Football?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 11, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
and if he gets injured?
Not our call though is it, if they don't accept our offer, or do but say they wont do the deal till after the game they have a right to play him.
If he doesn't want to play that's a different issue.
For Brighton it makes sense to delay and play him from our side I would accept that but have a caveat if he gets injured the deal is off till he is fit or off completely. Put the ball in theirs and Dunk's court. If they need the cash and don't want to risk it they wont play him, if he wants to join and doesn't want to risk injury he ill not want to play. We come out of it looking good and with a decent player.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 10, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
Don't know much about him, what position in midfield does he play? We just seem to be linked to so many midfielders when we are already well endowed in that area.
Quote from: Twig on August 11, 2015, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 10, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
Don't know much about him, what position in midfield does he play? We just seem to be linked to so many midfielders when we are already well endowed in that area.
21 years old and prefers centre midfield. Can play on either wing and as attacking midfielder behind the forward(s).
do we need another midfield player? not saying he isnt a decent player just we have several and we could do with a centre back
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
do we need another midfield player? not saying he isnt a decent player just we have several and we could do with a centre back
. . . and one on loan.
Would imagine he'll get linked to Derby now Hughes is out for the next 6 months or so.
The Club is pleased to announce that a number of our young players have now signed professional terms at Fulham.
Further to the news that Aron Davies, Josh Walker, Aaron Redford and Elijah Adebayo had all gone pro, we can now confirm that midfielders Luca de la Torre and Foday Nabay have signed deals until June 2018, while Tayo Edun, Mattias Kait and Anthony Dolan have agreed terms until June 2017.
Furthermore, Academy youngsters Jerome Opoku, Cassian Thomas, Taye Ashby-Hammond, Marlon Fossey, Dennis Adeniran and Joshua Lukwata have begun scholarships at the Club, as have Moritz Jenz, Jon Dagur Thorsteinsson and Mikolaj Kwietniewski, who have arrived from clubs in Germany, Iceland and Poland respectively.
Does Moritz Jenz cycle to the ground
Uwe Hunemeier, a German CB reportedly having a medical at Brighton today.
Surely this means we've finally got our man
@reluctantnicko: TIM REAM. New interest from FULHAM. Was hoping that would keep for paper but seems unlikely. BOLTON will sell to highest bidder. QPR maybe.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 11, 2015, 12:56:22 PM
Uwe Hunemeier, a German CB reportedly having a medical at Brighton today.
Surely this means we've finally got our man
or he has a new partner? :O
Quote from: mkras99 on August 11, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
@reluctantnicko: TIM REAM. New interest from FULHAM. Was hoping that would keep for paper but seems unlikely. BOLTON will sell to highest bidder. QPR maybe.
Would be a nice addition. Was their club and fan player of the season last season. Very good on the ball for a CB and good passer. Can play CB, LB and DMid.
SSN. Gayle going to Bristol City for a fee rising to £6 mil. What on earth were we doing? Nothing
BREAKING NEWS
"Crystal Palace have accepted an initial bid of £6m from Bristol City for striker Dwight Gayle, according to Sky sources.
It is thought the deal could rise to £8 million with incentives and Palace boss Alan Pardew revealed last week he was willing to let Gayle leave if the price was right."
6m rising to 8 is a bit much in my opinion. Ok with missing out here.
Agree. I think Moussa will come good this year and we do not need another striker. Now ....a CB or two.
Fulham have made a firm enquiry for Tim Ream according to Alan Nixon. Bolton Wanderers' Player of the Year two consecutive years in a row, has played largely at centre back and left back and also posted time in a defensive midfield row. It's been a while since we've had an American really contribute to the first team. No fee mentioned, but presume around £1.5m-£2m.
Eh beat me to it!
I think we either offer Moussa a generous contract and get him signed up for the next 4 years or if he doesn't sign we meet Palace's asking price and bring Gayle (or an alternative) in.
Quote from: grandad on August 11, 2015, 01:43:58 PM
SSN. Gayle going to Bristol City for a fee rising to £6 mil. What on earth were we doing? Nothing
our critical need is in defence. with strikers we are ok.
While I agree we need a centre back I do worry if Ross gets injured who will pick up the mantle.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
While I agree we need a centre back I do worry if Ross gets injured who will pick up the mantle.
I have the very same worry. I'd certainly feel better if Taggart hadn't been a sick note (no offense to the player) his entire tenure with us. Be great to know what we have with him.
I have read somewhere that Taggart might leave for a club on the Continent. Whilst we could do with some cover up front, we really need one or two CBs.
Should we not already have a deal for Dunk in place (who knows with Saturday's game looming...), the lack of statement of intent in this window is a worry. We signed a few good players, but hardly spent the money saved by off-loading Rodders and Ruiz for example.
I am not calling for a £10m+ marquee signing (we usually make a hash of those barring Ross maybe), but it would be good to complete the the few additions we need in defense. It all feels a bit flat.
Why on earth would Gayle go to Bristol City? Surely someone has to come in now and match that bid.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/11/swansea-burnley-fulham-tracking-christie/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/11/swansea-burnley-fulham-tracking-christie/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Quote from: mkras99 on August 11, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/11/swansea-burnley-fulham-tracking-christie/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/11/swansea-burnley-fulham-tracking-christie/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
How many more midfielders do we need, thought that area had been sorted? I am still waiting to hear that we really do intend to improve our defence and also add 1 proven goal scorer to our squad, if we don't, then we can probably forget challenging for promotion for at least 1 more year!
Gayle to Bristol City says it all.Somehow suspect it won't happen but perhaps his level?
Despite FFP we seem to have money in the kitty to take advantage of the usual window closure frenzy.Patience required.Either that or we are super sustainable mid table.
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
Forgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
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Quote from: MJG on August 11, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
Forgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
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I thought the same thing, he looked very mature on the ball. He shaped to shoot, then saw Ross and unselfishly squared Ross up. I would not have blamed him for shooting in that scenario, he could have had a good shot too.
Agreed. Last season he would have shot rather than squared. I thought a big difference in maturity, physique and attitude. How angry was he? It shows he cared.
The Mail are stirring it as usual.
Fulham begin talks with Ross McCormack over new contract in attempt to fend off interest from Norwich and Middlesbrough
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3193838/Fulham-begin-talks-Ross-McCormack-new-contract-attempt-fend-Norwich-Middlesbrough.html#ixzz3iWNRk7QU (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3193838/Fulham-begin-talks-Ross-McCormack-new-contract-attempt-fend-Norwich-Middlesbrough.html#ixzz3iWNRk7QU)
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Rumour is that Boro are interested in Ross.... :028:
Quote from: MJG on August 11, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
Forgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
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Yes agreed. Why spunk money on Gayle when this kid could become the real deal...
How in the blue hell have Stoke signed Shaqiri? No matter how many times i read it i still cant believe it
8 weeks chasing Lewis Dunk and we are still going to have to pay a premium for him. Very odd why we didn't conclude before start of season. Rigg?
Quote from: Texas White on August 11, 2015, 06:17:40 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 11, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
Forgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
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Yes agreed. Why spunk money on Gayle when this kid could become the real deal...
Because he isn't the real deal and doesn't want to stay.
Murray Burnell @Murray_Burnell 8m8 minutes ago
Kit Symons tells @BBCLondonSport that there are "positive talks going on" to bring new players to the club. Says he's hopeful. #FFC
dembele hasn't come out and asked for a transfer so far that anybody knows where as Roberts did so im giving him the benefit of the doubt till he publicy states he wants out!
Bristol City confirm bid for Gayle accepted & they are talking to player & agent tomorrow
Quote from: FFC73 on August 11, 2015, 10:20:56 PM
Bristol City confirm bid for Gayle accepted & they are talking to player & agent tomorrow
Earlier, it said that Gayle had rejected the move.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 11, 2015, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: FFC73 on August 11, 2015, 10:20:56 PM
Bristol City confirm bid for Gayle accepted & they are talking to player & agent tomorrow
Earlier, it said that Gayle had rejected the move.
No one have told City yet then as they are saying they are expecting to talk to him tomorrow, although they do also say not a done deal yet
SC: "We bid for Dwight Gayle. It has been accepted. That's only the first part of the job."
Bristol City FC
bcfctweets
SC: "We bid for Dwight Gayle. It has been accepted. That's only the first part of the job."
9:04 p.m. - 11 August 2015
SC: "We need to talk to the player and his agent. I'll probably know more tomorrow."
Bristol City FC
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SC: "We need to talk to the player and his agent. I'll probably know more tomorrow."
9:05 p.m. - 11 August 2015
I think 6mill is over the odds. I also think I may be proved to be completely wrong. He could be the difference. I feel him and Ross are quality championship strikers but not the mustard in the PL. Smith doesn't fill many on here with confidence but I think he could be our bobby this season and has it in him to improve to the PL. If we got him, smith up top with Gayle on the shoulder and Ross a number ten. That would be hard to stop in so many ways. You couldn't drop off, you couldn't push up and we could mess teams about with clever training. Let's say smith drops deep. Who marks him? Let's say the mobile defender put on Ross has to deal with smith? That a mismatch that works in our favour. The pacey defender they play against Gayle has smith dropping onto him how does that play? We can cause mismatches with that formation.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 11, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
I think 6mill is over the odds. I also think I may be proved to be completely wrong. He could be the difference. I feel him and Ross are quality championship strikers but not the mustard in the PL. Smith doesn't fill many on here with confidence but I think he could be our bobby this season and has it in him to improve to the PL. If we got him, smith up top with Gayle on the shoulder and Ross a number ten. That would be hard to stop in so many ways. You couldn't drop off, you couldn't push up and we could mess teams about with clever training. Let's say smith drops deep. Who marks him? Let's say the mobile defender put on Ross has to deal with smith? That a mismatch that works in our favour. The pacey defender they play against Gayle has smith dropping onto him how does that play? We can cause mismatches with that formation.
We won't buy Gayle anyway, or any other striker, as I've a feeling Kit will stick with his favourite Woodrow.
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Neil Lennon confirms Fulham have joined QPR in the race for Tim Ream. No fee agreed yet. But looks like it could be soon.
Lennon is reported to have said the valuation is not what they want and Ream is not for sale.
Well Ream or Dunk or both or neither. One thing is sure. Hutchinson appears to be playing better since we are reported being after central defenders.
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
He has been player of the year up there for a few seasons. I haven't seen much of him but am not overly impressed but then Dunk isn't worth the much bigger valuation IMO either. Are they improvements in what we have? Dunk I guess so. Ream possibly.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Was highly regarded in MLS and broke through quite quickly into the national team before signing on with Bolton. He's been pretty good overall throughout the years there, especially in the Championship. Think he's a very good Championship defender. Struggled at times in the EPL and never really lived up to the hype of a regular national team player. Just was recently called back for the Gold Cup, but wasn't first choice.
Versitile player. A center back back trade, but can go out on the left fullback position, or sit in as a defensive midfielder. Great left foot out of the back.
Saw Ream play in 2011 in the gold cup. Thought he played exceptional back then. Have not seen him play since but if he can play like he did back then...well then I see a great player for FFC.
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Wasn't in the Brighton squad tonight
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Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Was highly regarded in MLS and broke through quite quickly into the national team before signing on with Bolton. He's been pretty good overall throughout the years there, especially in the Championship. Think he's a very good Championship defender. Struggled at times in the EPL and never really lived up to the hype of a regular national team player. Just was recently called back for the Gold Cup, but wasn't first choice.
Versitile player. A center back back trade, but can go out on the left fullback position, or sit in as a defensive midfielder. Great left foot out of the back.
Probably why he's not considered to be a better CB. But, I will give him that he's likely one of the best passing CBs in the league. And if he was poor defensively, he'd never have been player of the season two seasons running.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 12, 2015, 12:16:07 AM
Wasn't in the Brighton squad tonight
I was at the game what with Southend being my local team. In the bar beforehand some BHFC fans were saying he was on the team coach, however he wasn't in the first team squad and he didnt get of the coach when it arrived at Roots Hall,
For info after the first 15 minutes had gone, Brighton were outplayed by Southend and the better team didnt win the game
Symons thanks Khan for spending. We haven't spent though, we are breaking even on transfers and wages I would imagine.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 12, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
Symons thanks Khan for spending. We haven't spent though, we are breaking even on transfers and wages I would imagine.
Jesus. Symons sounds pretty simple saying this. We know we haven't spent, all our players bar Cairney were free!
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 12, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
Symons thanks Khan for spending. We haven't spent though, we are breaking even on transfers and wages I would imagine.
Jesus. Symons sounds pretty simple saying this. We know we haven't spent, all our players bar Cairney were free!
Because free signings are free aren't they? I mean no signing on fee at all.
I don't know the transfer fees but Pringle on the market would be how much 1-2m ....reckon he got a high six figure signing on fee for a start. Lonergan less and O'Hara ..who knows , but point is a free is not free.
And its clear we are trying to spend the money and once a couple of moves happen we will have a net spend.
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Agree MJG people always forget the fees paid to players and or agents.
People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met.
I am more looking at who do we think maybe coming in Dunk, Ream Gayle? All 3 would be decent signings and if we got all 3 it would be great but 2 of the 3 would be good and add that to who we have I would say we have had a good window.
For me O'hara (no matter what we have paid) could well turn out to be a bargin
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
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Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
I guess also this would depend how the fee is structured, if we pay over the term of a 3 year contract we reduce our FFP impact for this year as we have not paid all the money up front, that's how I understand it. However I do not know where we are in relation to FFP.
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
add ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
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Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
add ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Well its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.
I have done my *** packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
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Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
add ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Well its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.
I have done my *** packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
But we can ease that further depending on how we pay the fee is that correct? for instance we sign Dunk on a 5 year deal for 5 million and pay that over the fee over the initial contract period meaning our FFP impact form this deal (fee wise only) is 1 million per season, this is unrealistic I know but trying to give a simple example.
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Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
add ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Well its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.
I have done my *** packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
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SSN@10:10 - Brighton are set to complete the signing of German defender Uwe Hunemeier, reports The Argus. The report suggests the 29-year-old was due for a medical last night to complete a £1.4m move from Paderborn.
Dunk's replacement? Could explain why we've not made progress in a while; Brighton want a replacement signed before letting him go.
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
Brighton were also in for Upson before he went elsewhere, that could have delayed the dunk move (if it is ever going to happen)
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
I am not saying thats what happened, but it is possible. but yes they can afford it
The one transfer we did was just after the end of the season a few years back.
It was announced that Bullard was going to sign.
It came out later that whilst we were in discussions, we had said to his agent. "If any of this comes out prior to signing, the deal is off". I remember being quite impressed with that.
Dont suppose we carry quite the same weight these days
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 12, 2015, 11:23:53 AM
The one transfer we did was just after the end of the season a few years back.
It was announced that Bullard was going to sign.
It came out later that whilst we were in discussions, we had said to his agent. "If any of this comes out prior to signing, the deal is off". I remember being quite impressed with that.
Dont suppose we carry quite the same weight these days
I heard this story the other way around that it was Bullards side that wanted it kept quiet or the deal was off. We did the deal in March or April time and he didnt play the last few games for Wigan as I seem to remember. Long time ago now that one.
The Dunk rumours are tedious now, I am waiting to see who we bring in and let go (loan or permanent) as and when announced on the Offal.
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Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
add ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Well its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.
I have done my *** packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
But we can ease that further depending on how we pay the fee is that correct? for instance we sign Dunk on a 5 year deal for 5 million and pay that over the fee over the initial contract period meaning our FFP impact form this deal (fee wise only) is 1 million per season, this is unrealistic I know but trying to give a simple example.
It is unrealistic but I get your point. I'll be honest and say how they account for future expenditure when working out the accounts for the football league(which is different to published accounts) i'm not sure.
For example in the published accounts of 13-14 we had future liablities of £11M in Txf fees.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
But thats how we have done some of our deals in the past. Its normal practice to spread over two seasons usually, especally if a high fee.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 10:43:33 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 10:40:41 AM
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
add ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Well its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.
I have done my *** packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
You do realise that *** packet calculations can seriously damage your health?
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Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Was highly regarded in MLS and broke through quite quickly into the national team before signing on with Bolton. He's been pretty good overall throughout the years there, especially in the Championship. Think he's a very good Championship defender. Struggled at times in the EPL and never really lived up to the hype of a regular national team player. Just was recently called back for the Gold Cup, but wasn't first choice.
Versitile player. A center back back trade, but can go out on the left fullback position, or sit in as a defensive midfielder. Great left foot out of the back.
Probably why he's not considered to be a better CB. But, I will give him that he's likely one of the best passing CBs in the league. And if he was poor defensively, he'd never have been player of the season two seasons running.
Saw Dunk for the first time the other night, he's miles ahead a better defender. Think Ream would still be an upgrade to Hutch/Bodurov. Getting both would be very good business.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
But thats how we have done some of our deals in the past. Its normal practice to spread over two seasons usually, especally if a high fee.
I agree but we don't have the spending power of the top 5-6 Prem clubs and so have to pay in installments, I assume.
I just think that with the amount of 'silly' money Man Cty have been/are throwing around, we could have put our foot down on the Roberts deal. Especially as we are now having to deal with this rediculous ffp rule!
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Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
But thats how we have done some of our deals in the past. Its normal practice to spread over two seasons usually, especally if a high fee.
I agree but we don't have the spending power of the top 5-6 Prem clubs and so have to pay in installments, I assume.
I just think that with the amount of 'silly' money Man Cty have been/are throwing around, we could have put our foot down on the Roberts deal. Especially as we are now having to deal with this rediculous ffp rule!
trouble is only one buyer in the race and one year left on contract. We may have got 2M at a tribunel next year if we were lucky.
Bristol City have bid accepted of £8million pound for Gayle plus they will waive their right to a 15% sell on clause that they are owed for Yannick Bolaisse. That is stupid negotiations by Bristol.
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
can't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
serviceable but not better than Burn or Hutch. Kind of meh on this one.
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
He's set up a vineyard with his pal, Grigio.
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Started the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
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Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Started the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
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Do you know if he was any good?
All I heard was that he likes to charge out with the ball at his feet
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Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
serviceable but not better than Burn or Hutch. Kind of meh on this one.
This is why some on this board are never satisfied by FFC business. The entire last 12 months has been spent slating Burn and Hutch and saying our CBs aren't good enough. Then we're rumored to be getting a two-time team player of the year in our league who's also a borderline international for the US, and suddenly he's not even as good as Burn or Hutch.
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Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Started the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
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Do you know if he was any good?
All I heard was that he likes to charge out with the ball at his feet
He has done that in every game I've seen him play. Last Friday he did it a couple of times, you can see he has played midfield and is very confident with it at his feet. I see it as a plus point as we don't have many, if any, CB's at the club who are comfortable doing that.
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Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Started the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
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Do you know if he was any good?
All I heard was that he likes to charge out with the ball at his feet
He has done that in every game I've seen him play. Last Friday he did it a couple of times, you can see he has played midfield and is very confident with it at his feet. I see it as a plus point as we don't have many, if any, CB's at the club who are comfortable doing that.
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It is a plus, it's always a great way to start a counter attack which is what we're becoming fairly good at. If his defending and passing is good then will will be a decent signing.
Brighton have signed that defender
In a widely anticipated move, Albion have completed the signing of highly-rated German central defender Uwe Hunemeier from Bundesliga 2 side SC Paderborn in a deal that will have many fans nervously eyeing Fulham's advances for Lewis Dunk.
After flying into England last night, the 29-year-old passed his medical at the club's Lancing training centre this morning, and joins Albion on a three-year deal for a fee believed to be in the region of £1.5m.
Albion have been searching for an experienced central defender after the departure of Aaron Hughes at the end of the last campaign. In an area of the pitch where success is built upon the foundation of a deep understanding between players, it is not the norm to frequently rotate central defenders. Both Hunemeier's pedigree, and the transfer fee involved suggest that the German has not joined the Albion to stand in when injuries and suspensions arise, supplemented by the odd cup runout.
Fulham have led this Summer's pursuit of one of Albion's hottest properties, whilst Newcastle manager Steve McLaren is also known to be an admirer of Dunk. With a £4m offer reportedly declined, it remains to be seen if the West London club will return and to try and persuade the Albion they could live without Dunk.
http://www.northstandchat.com/content.php?529-Albion-sign-Uwe-Hunemeier (http://www.northstandchat.com/content.php?529-Albion-sign-Uwe-Hunemeier)
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
can't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
can't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
can't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
can't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
can't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
If the money was there we would have got bids accepted. Everyone keeps telling us that every player has a price. The fact that we couldn't even get a bid accepted says to me the money wasn't there and once again we have opted to lower the quality of player and there transfer fee.
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
Quote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
no I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
No it's the Clubs place to value how much they are prepared to pay for a player, if the selling club want more, then you don't buy if you think he isn't worth it.
I have £10,000 to buy a car I see one for £10000, I offer the guy £9000 as that what I think it's worth looking at milage condition colour etc. He says no, I walk away. I have the money, he wants to charge me more than I value it. Same thing.
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Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
no I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
What manager?
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Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
What manager?
No idea that will be down to a 8 man panel
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
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Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
What manager?
No idea that will be down to a 8 man panel
As long as we get a ten man panel to pick the 8 man panel then I'm in
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
I hope that this is not the case. It'd be like cutting your nose off to spite your face. Why back the guy as the manager and then withhold the funds he needs to buy the, I think, reasonable and necessary targets he's set just so that they can fire him when it inevitably goes wrong. If that's the approach, then why not replace him with the next guy now and improve the squad properly from the start. Makes no sense to me.
I'm sure that there is money budgeted for January, as there always is. I sincerely hope that it's not because the club are starting the season, expecting failure.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
no I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
Is it wasted money to get the player you want? And what's ffp got to do with it? I'm responding to someone who said we had money for the right players. Well if mcdonald and Dunk aren't the right players then I don't know who are. But then again I'm basing it on the fact the club told us we are aiming for top 6.
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
no I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
Is it wasted money to get the player you want? And what's ffp got to do with it? I'm responding to someone who said we had money for the right players. Well if mcdonald and Dunk aren't the right players then I don't know who are. But then again I'm basing it on the fact the club told us we are aiming for top 6.
It can be. Sure.
I've no doubt that we have money to spend on the right players. But, if our valuation for a player is 4 million and the selling club's valuation is significantly higher than that, then that player ceases to be the right player.
And, FFP's got everything to do with it. It impacts our transfer budget and wage structure. If we can only afford to do 10 million in spending on players in order to avoid exceeding the 13 million in losses we are allowed to afford ourselves annually, then we can't afford to overspend on a single player when we have multiple positions to improve.
Quite simply any club has a value they see in a player, just as you do with a car or a house.
You pay what you think it's worth. Just because I didn't pay the asking price for a flat I wanted doesn't mean I didn't have the money, just that the asking price was not the valuation I thought it was. And in fact I paid more for another flat.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 06:57:19 PM
Quite simply any club has a value they see in a player, just as you do with a car or a house.
You pay what you think it's worth. Just because I didn't pay the asking price for a flat I wanted doesn't mean I didn't have the money, just that the asking price was not the valuation I thought it was. And in fact I paid more for another flat.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 06:53:21 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 06:02:12 PM
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
no I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
Is it wasted money to get the player you want? And what's ffp got to do with it? I'm responding to someone who said we had money for the right players. Well if mcdonald and Dunk aren't the right players then I don't know who are. But then again I'm basing it on the fact the club told us we are aiming for top 6.
It can be. Sure.
I've no doubt that we have money to spend on the right players. But, if our valuation for a player is 4 million and the selling club's valuation is significantly higher than that, then that player ceases to be the right player.
And, FFP's got everything to do with it. It impacts our transfer budget and wage structure. If we can only afford to do 10 million in spending on players in order to avoid exceeding the 13 million in losses we are allowed to afford ourselves annually, then we can't afford to overspend on a single player when we have multiple positions to improve.
sorry but the player you want doesn't become the wrong type of player just because you can't afford him. He was the one targeted to help us get in the top 6. He is the one we can't afford by the looks of it, anything else said is just an excuse for us not having the money. And ffp is irrelevant as I don't believe we will be given the funds to take us anywhere near our limit.
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
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So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
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So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
The thing is the value of a player with a whole preseason to settle and work with his new teammates should be greater than the value after two/three games and no preseason. If we now offer what they want why didn't we do that early doors? Brighton aren't likely to have wanted him to play the first few games (one against the potential buyer) over get the money in and getting the same preseason/settling time with their replacement. I would pay extra for any integral players to get them in for a full preseason. Things aren't ever black and white but if we give them what they wanted we would have had him for the preseason for the same price.
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So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:02:01 PM
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Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
Frankly we could spend 10m on a centre back think we would conced 1 a game
If we end up getting Dunk, what's it matter if we get him August 2nd or 22nd or 31st. The season is 46 games long, if he misses a August fixture, it's not really a big deal. Don't judge the transfer window on August 12th.
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So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
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Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:02:01 PM
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Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
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Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PM
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So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
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So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
are we talking wages too?
Nope just txf fees
I'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in case
So 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?
I wouldn't say 6 is too much for a young quality cb. Hull sold there's for 8 and Westham were rumoured to want Burn for 5 and Dunk will replace him. The point is if you want good players these days you pay for them, and God knows we need a good cb. Dunks value will almost certainly increase with time, so it would be a very minimal gamble.
So you would pay 8m then?
Quote from: Fulhamerica23 on August 12, 2015, 08:05:35 PM
If we end up getting Dunk, what's it matter if we get him August 2nd or 22nd or 31st. The season is 46 games long, if he misses a August fixture, it's not really a big deal. Don't judge the transfer window on August 12th.
I don't know if this is directed at my post but it does contradict it so I will respond. It matters a great deal IMO. If it takes a player some time to settle at a new club and also takes a back four some more time to form a really good partnership then it could be the difference between top half and promotion. How long it takes each player to settle or each back four to bond is variable. With a full preseason with your new signings you have more chance of starting well. Bringing a player in at the end of August may mean another month of improving when you could have started the season improved and picked up more points. One point could be the difference between promotion/playoffs so how can it not matter?
Not sure how much truth there is to this article, but QPR looks to have had a bid accepted for Tim Ream.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/12/qpr-agree-fee-with-bolton-for-tim-ream/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/12/qpr-agree-fee-with-bolton-for-tim-ream/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/12/qpr-agree-fee-with-bolton-for-tim-ream/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/12/qpr-agree-fee-with-bolton-for-tim-ream/&utm_source=Twitter)
This seems to say the opposite
http://www.espnfc.us/story/2559702/bolton-reject-bids-from-qpr-and-fulham-for-defender-tim-ream (http://www.espnfc.us/story/2559702/bolton-reject-bids-from-qpr-and-fulham-for-defender-tim-ream)
Ben??
Jesus, it does my head in when I see Ben and others say 'splash the cash' to get us to The Premier League. FFP, FFP, FFP, FFP.
No matter how rich our owner, he is restricted as to how much he can spend by FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY. If he spends enough on transfers and wages (which are conveniently ignored by many people) to take us close to the allowable annual loss under FFP then HE HAS DONE ALL HE POSSIBLY CAN TO BANKROLL THE CLUB. He can do no more, without jeopardising the day-to-day operations of the Club. What more do you want?
So, we will know for sure when the Accounts come out next year, or the year after, whether Shad has covered the maximum allowable loss in an effort to gain us promotion. My thoughts are that he will 100% do this. My reasons are two-fold: 1) he continues to press ahead with the stadium redevelopment, which will personally cost him millions, since this is outside the rules of FFP. This is one of the few ways he can spend his money on us without breaking any rules and 2) in the final year of the Premiership he has manipulated the accounts to show a massive (allowable) loss so that we have more money to spend in The Championship. This is not the behaviour of a 'penny-pincher'.
So, when the Club posts it's Accounts in 2016 or 2017 and it shows a loss of £12 million (or whatever the allowable figure is) will Ben and others remember to come on here and say 'fair play Mr Chairman, we could not have bought anyone else that season without invoking a transfer embargo even though the fans were whining like spoilt kids for more, more, more'.
Sorry about the rant, but I am convinced that Shad and his Accountants are all over this like a rash and know the absolute maximum that we can spend. If that means we can get Dunk, but not Gayle, then that is that. There's no room for manoeuvre.
There's another factor to remember here too with regards to Dunk, he's a born and bred Brighton boy, other than high wages, why would he want to leave the club which he has spent his entire career and life in? As in, currently, he's not a journeyman footballer, he's a local lad, playing for his local team in the same league as we play, and although they had a bad season last year where they finished 20th, they were only 5 points off us, so we can't really say that we're much better currently than where he's at. Also, after they finished 6th in 2013/14 I would imagine that it was a hugely disappointing season for them and that he, as a local boy, would be really motivated to improve upon that too
So my point is, even though we've valued him at one price, and Brighton another, and lets say hypothetically that we agree a fee at 5million, we still need to convince the player that he should leave his boyhood club, his family and friends, for a former premier league club trying to buy it's way back up, with our biggest incentive most likely being a bigger pay packet.
So transfer fee is one part, wages I think will be another which may hamper us, and yes although I'd love it for us to throw as much money at the problem as needed, good planning, good strategies, and patience can also achieve the end game which is a strong, sustainable club playing in the premier league.
Finally, on the Dunk discussion, who would take Dunk at 5mill or Ream for 2.5mill and potentially use that money elsewhere, say resigning Dembele, Hyndman & Bettinelli, or possibly another 2.5mill going into the budget for a striker or a 2nd starting CB
Quote from: aussierod on August 13, 2015, 03:44:22 AM
There's another factor to remember here too with regards to Dunk, he's a born and bred Brighton boy, other than high wages, why would he want to leave the club which he has spent his entire career and life in? As in, currently, he's not a journeyman footballer, he's a local lad, playing for his local team in the same league as we play, and although they had a bad season last year where they finished 20th, they were only 5 points off us, so we can't really say that we're much better currently than where he's at. Also, after they finished 6th in 2013/14 I would imagine that it was a hugely disappointing season for them and that he, as a local boy, would be really motivated to improve upon that too
So my point is, even though we've valued him at one price, and Brighton another, and lets say hypothetically that we agree a fee at 5million, we still need to convince the player that he should leave his boyhood club, his family and friends, for a former premier league club trying to buy it's way back up, with our biggest incentive most likely being a bigger pay packet.
So transfer fee is one part, wages I think will be another which may hamper us, and yes although I'd love it for us to throw as much money at the problem as needed, good planning, good strategies, and patience can also achieve the end game which is a strong, sustainable club playing in the premier league.
Finally, on the Dunk discussion, who would take Dunk at 5mill or Ream for 2.5mill and potentially use that money elsewhere, say resigning Dembele, Hyndman & Bettinelli, or possibly another 2.5mill going into the budget for a striker or a 2nd starting CB
One word you mentioned ..money. Speaking to someone who knows the family.Apparently he wont move up North.ie Newcastle or Everton due to family reasons.
Fulham and moving to Surrey/Sussex borders hes 40 mins from home
Can we please keep this thread just for transfer rumours? If people want to have a FFP argument can we do it on another thread please?
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Why is it a face that a player Fulham are reported to be interested in goes to another club?
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
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Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
so 98 league games of having a poor defence is the official time to moan
Odds shortened on Oddschecker to 4/5 for Fulham being Lewis Dunks next Club after the summer transfer window.
Quote from: Scrumpy on August 13, 2015, 01:07:22 AM
Jesus, it does my head in when I see Ben and others say 'splash the cash' to get us to The Premier League. FFP, FFP, FFP, FFP.
No matter how rich our owner, he is restricted as to how much he can spend by FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY. If he spends enough on transfers and wages (which are conveniently ignored by many people) to take us close to the allowable annual loss under FFP then HE HAS DONE ALL HE POSSIBLY CAN TO BANKROLL THE CLUB. He can do no more, without jeopardising the day-to-day operations of the Club. What more do you want?
So, we will know for sure when the Accounts come out next year, or the year after, whether Shad has covered the maximum allowable loss in an effort to gain us promotion. My thoughts are that he will 100% do this. My reasons are two-fold: 1) he continues to press ahead with the stadium redevelopment, which will personally cost him millions, since this is outside the rules of FFP. This is one of the few ways he can spend his money on us without breaking any rules and 2) in the final year of the Premiership he has manipulated the accounts to show a massive (allowable) loss so that we have more money to spend in The Championship. This is not the behaviour of a 'penny-pincher'.
So, when the Club posts it's Accounts in 2016 or 2017 and it shows a loss of £12 million (or whatever the allowable figure is) will Ben and others remember to come on here and say 'fair play Mr Chairman, we could not have bought anyone else that season without invoking a transfer embargo even though the fans were whining like spoilt kids for more, more, more'.
Sorry about the rant, but I am convinced that Shad and his Accountants are all over this like a rash and know the absolute maximum that we can spend. If that means we can get Dunk, but not Gayle, then that is that. There's no room for manoeuvre.
I'm not even talking about splashing the cash to get to the prem. I'm talking about spending some money to fix our worst position. The one position that needed attention over all the others. And you have no idea how close we are to going 13 over so if we are close to evenings will you come on here and say sorry I was wrong the club were scrimping
My twitter feed is saying that Newcastle are firming up their interest in Dunk and offering a part exchange deal player (Mike Williamson) + cash.
If any bid from us is accepted and Newcastle's then the player will have a choice to make now. Prem football up north or championship football in west London.
Club will only have themselves to blame if player opts for the former. We've had a whole window pursuing this and haven't got it over the line.
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
You're jumping the gun here. My point is that we had a bid rejected from Bolton and QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m! My point is how much is this club bidding for players! Thats the problem! We need a CB and a good one at least. Why tip toe around instead of just going look bang here's a reasonable fee. We did it with Ross last year so I know we can do it!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Sorry, could I re write my post, I did not want to appear negative, I meant to say
" You are referring to QPR of course"
Hope that clears the matter up.
Lots of tweets doing the rounds saying Newcastle are now firmly in for Dunk offering Mike Williamson as part of the deal. Lets hope he wants to stay down South :(
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on August 13, 2015, 10:23:12 AM
Lots of tweets doing the rounds saying Newcastle are now firmly in for Dunk offering Mike Williamson as part of the deal. Lets hope he wants to stay down South :(
Well that's good news no club in there right mind would want Williamson
Not sure Brighton would want to assimilate Williamson's wages, nor do I think Dunk will want to go up North to sit on a bench.
If Brighton accepts Newcastle's terms, I think the deciding factor will be wages. We shouldn't break our wage structure to get Dunk.
My worry with an offer from us is Brighton may be unwilling to accept an offer from a rival...
I'm sort of hoping the downfall of Lascelles at Newcastle will help Lewis realise a starting slot in a promotion chasing team will be more valuable in the long-term than a bench slot in an established premier league side. With our ambition, we should be able to offer him premier league football within 1-3 years and he'll be a starter for us, no doubt.
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Quote from: alexbishop on August 13, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Generally I agree, but say he was deciding and then Newcastle come in, that changes the picture for both him and more importantly us.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:55:09 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 13, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Generally I agree, but say he was deciding and then Newcastle come in, that changes the picture for both him and more importantly us.
deciding? We never got a bid accepted to give him the option to decide
Anyway I'm here to pass on false hopes (One for the TIFF readers) that we are/will/maybe getting a centre back anytime in the rest of the month.
Well at least that's what I have been told to say.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 11:00:42 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:55:09 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 13, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Generally I agree, but say he was deciding and then Newcastle come in, that changes the picture for both him and more importantly us.
deciding? We never got a bid accepted to give him the option to decide
My bad i was talking about players in general not specifically Dunk.
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well played
I'm still not convinced by Khans 'at all costs' rally cry... he's secured the ST revenue once again and he'll deal with Symon's when the inevitable happens
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
You're jumping the gun here. My point is that we had a bid rejected from Bolton and QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m! My point is how much is this club bidding for players! Thats the problem! We need a CB and a good one at least. Why tip toe around instead of just going look bang here's a reasonable fee. We did it with Ross last year so I know we can do it!
Because perhaps they felt Ross was worth the amount they paid for him and Team wasn't worth much more than they offered? Clubs make informal/formal bids all the time and don't go back in with more money. Perhaps there are other deals on the table that are more appealing who knows. That's the point, you and fulham ben literally have next to No idea where negotiations are at or other players so why not just wait and see.
And on that matter fulhamben - we've all established that the defence needed looking at - last year kit brought in Husband and Turner and we had Richards- this season we have brought in Garbutt and signed Richards permanently and have repeatedly stated in official interviews we are well aware that the defence needed assessing. So, until the window closes as most of us realise some transfer dealings can often go to the wire for what I thought were blindingly obvious reasons, I shall wait and see what the club does before lambasting them and constantly moaning without the foggiest clue what the inside conversations are and the state of negotiations other than what pops up on twitter or in any number of random football sites.
It's a new season with a number of new 1st team signings and so far it's played 2 won 1, drawn 1, conceded 1. So how about just being reasonable human beings and waiting till transfer season closes and we have more information on where we are at?!
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
You're jumping the gun here. My point is that we had a bid rejected from Bolton and QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m! My point is how much is this club bidding for players! Thats the problem! We need a CB and a good one at least. Why tip toe around instead of just going look bang here's a reasonable fee. We did it with Ross last year so I know we can do it!
Because perhaps they felt Ross was worth the amount they paid for him and Team wasn't worth much more than they offered? Clubs make informal/formal bids all the time and don't go back in with more money. Perhaps there are other deals on the table that are more appealing who knows. That's the point, you and fulham ben literally have next to No idea where negotiations are at or other players so why not just wait and see.
And on that matter fulhamben - we've all established that the defence needed looking at - last year kit brought in Husband and Turner and we had Richards- this season we have brought in Garbutt and signed Richards permanently and have repeatedly stated in official interviews we are well aware that the defence needed assessing. So, until the window closes as most of us realise some transfer dealings can often go to the wire for what I thought were blindingly obvious reasons, I shall wait and see what the club does before lambasting them and constantly moaning without the foggiest clue what the inside conversations are and the state of negotiations other than what pops up on twitter or in any number of random football sites.
It's a new season with a number of new 1st team signings and so far it's played 2 won 1, drawn 1, conceded 1. So how about just being reasonable human beings and waiting till transfer season closes and we have more information on where we are at?!
actually I have been saying that I don't think we have the money for good signings if you read my posts. It's only because MJG gave me a ten million hyperthetical budget that I started on about Dunk. And as to Richards and Garbutt, I've already stated that Richards isn't a better player than he was last year just because he has signed on a perm, and Garbutt could be our new jari so I don't think we have come close to improving our defence. Especially now Grimmer is injured who I believe to be our best right back
Every year I hear people saying we don't have the money...literally every season I can remember on every forum going...and then we sign McCormack, AJ, Ruiz,Mitroglue,Marlet etc etc etc. We are not a top 4 side with endless revenue and we are a club that tries where possible to not get ourselves in trouble ala pompey and the rest.
Again as 99% of this moaning comes from guesswork and assumptions...how about holding off till the end of the window at least. Even then it may be that the money is there but not just to spend on players that we don't want much. There are so many factors in transfer beyond just the initial valuation.
According to press report today Dwight Gayle not interested in joining Bristol City.
Norwich favourites to sign him.Fulham and QPR still interested in signing him.
Bristol City will go for Andre Gray if Gayle move fails
Quote from: spikey norman on August 13, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
According to press report today Dwight Gayle not interested in joining Bristol City.
Norwich favourites to sign him.Fulham and QPR still interested in signing him.
Bristol City will go for Andre Gray if Gayle move fails
Would be happy with either of those players myself from what I've seen...whilst not an outright priority some pace up front is always welcome. Kit reporting we were in positive negotiations post wycombe game so let's hope we see another signing or 2 before the windows out!
Ross has agreed new terms according to Twitterverse.
I prefer taking gossip and wild speculation than having to read all the rubbish on these pages that are just repeating the old Fulham lie over transfer money twaddle. Please start another thread and stop filling up silly season transfer thread.
From Brighton forum
Andy Naylor @AndyNaylorArgus
Things can change, of course, but I am reliably informed #bhafc have not received an offer from Newcastle for Lewis Dunk.
11:21 AM - 13 Aug 2015 · South East, England, United Kingdom
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Quote from: Ordar on August 13, 2015, 06:58:43 AM
Can we please keep this thread just for transfer rumours? If people want to have a FFP argument can we do it on another thread please?
:plus one:
I think the sensible money is on the fact that he has agreed to join us but brighton have stipulated that its after we play them.
If he lines up for them against us, I'm guessing he probably won't be joining as that is probably a stipulation we would have made.
Pre-match pressers on both sides should be interesting.
Quote from: DeuceBigelow on August 13, 2015, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 13, 2015, 06:58:43 AM
Can we please keep this thread just for transfer rumours? If people want to have a FFP argument can we do it on another thread please?
:plus one:
Gladly!!
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
Quote from: Arthur on August 13, 2015, 01:39:18 PM
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
if dunk is a done deal (tongue twister !) then i don't think we would have made any offer at all for ream.
unless we want 2 more centre backs. personally i think 2 would be good business but 1 is a must
Quote from: Arthur on August 13, 2015, 01:39:18 PM
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
verbals mean nothing though, Mark Hughes shook mo's hand and then walked out. I'm very sceptical about all the noise about his dad saying he wants to come or him himself saying the same thing. Because it either means we have permission to talk to him. And if so why has it not leaked. Or we are setting ourselves up for another tapping up claim. Or thirdly we made a bid. It was knocked back and that as it stands is the end of it
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
Apparently we're still in for Ream.
http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/2561723/fulham-still-want-tim-ream-as-qpr-agree-fee-sources (http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/2561723/fulham-still-want-tim-ream-as-qpr-agree-fee-sources)
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
I'll take one. I think the hutch has improved. And burn and bod are not the worst in the world.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
I'll take one. I think the hutch has improved. And burn and bod are not the worst in the world.
Agreed. He's had his season to bed in, so to speak, and appears to be showing a bit of what we hoped we had paid for. Of course, it helps quite a bit to have a decent midfield in front of him. I think most Championship defenders would have looked much worse than they were, playing in our team last season.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
I'll take one. I think the hutch has improved. And burn and bod are not the worst in the world.
Bod is absolutely awful (was on Tuesday as well), and always looks in a daze. Hutch's improvement is only relative to how bad he was last season, and Burn is only any good with someone better to carry him through - imo
Am I right to expect a Kit interview from Sarah B. today? Or will it be moved since we've had a midweek game?
Hoping to get some insight into imminent signings as well as an update on Jack's injury.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 13, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Am I right to expect a Kit interview from Sarah B. today? Or will it be moved since we've had a midweek game?
Hoping to get some insight into imminent signings as well as an update on Jack's injury.
We at at home so sometimes Friday press conference.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 13, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Am I right to expect a Kit interview from Sarah B. today? Or will it be moved since we've had a midweek game?
Hoping to get some insight into imminent signings as well as an update on Jack's injury.
Thursday for away games and Friday for home games
Damn! Was amped for that interview happening today. Oh well
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33914157 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33914157)
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 13, 2015, 01:39:18 PM
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
verbals mean nothing though, Mark Hughes shook mo's hand and then walked out. I'm very sceptical about all the noise about his dad saying he wants to come or him himself saying the same thing. Because it either means we have permission to talk to him. And if so why has it not leaked. Or we are setting ourselves up for another tapping up claim. Or thirdly we made a bid. It was knocked back and that as it stands is the end of it
A verbal agreement isn't legally binding, it's true, but if Brighton have told us that there's no way they will allow him to leave prior to our fixture, the ball is in our court. We either pursue other options or we bide our time and hope to land our no.1 target.
Nonetheless, I'm not surprised you're sceptical; I've simply made a guess at what might happen and I'm sceptical myself as to the likelihood of it being correct.
DONE DEAL: Brazilian centre back Eric Botteghin (27) from #FCGroningen signed a four-year deal with #Feyenoord.
For what it's worth, Oddschecker have removed all betting on Lewis Dunk's next Club.
Fulham make new offer for Brentford's Tarkowski
HITC Sport understands Fulham have made a new bid for Brentford defender James Tarkowski.
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Fulham have launched an improved offer for Brentford's James Tarkowski as they look to bolster their defensive options before the close of the transfer window.
Fulham have made a new centre-back one of their top targets this summer and have been linked with moves for the likes of Brighton's Lewis Dunk, Wolverhampton Wanderers' Richard Stearman and Sheffield Wednesday stopper Tom Lees.
Tarkowski is also among Fulham's top targets and Brentford rejected a bid of £1.75million for the 22-year-old earlier this summer.
Takowski has impressed at Brentford since joining the club from Oldham in January 2014, helping the club win promotion to the Championship in his first season and reach the play-off semi-finals last term.
SEE ALSO: Fulham lodge bid to bring in Brentford defender
Brentford are reluctant to lose Tarkowski, but Fulham have tested their resolve again by tabling a bid in the region of £3million as they aim to make some progress in search of defensive reinforcements.
Only Blackpool had a worst defensive record than Fulham last season and Symons knows he must improve his defence if they are to challenge for promotion this season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 13, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Fulham make new offer for Brentford's Tarkowski
HITC Sport understands Fulham have made a new bid for Brentford defender James Tarkowski.
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Fulham have launched an improved offer for Brentford's James Tarkowski as they look to bolster their defensive options before the close of the transfer window.
Fulham have made a new centre-back one of their top targets this summer and have been linked with moves for the likes of Brighton's Lewis Dunk, Wolverhampton Wanderers' Richard Stearman and Sheffield Wednesday stopper Tom Lees.
Tarkowski is also among Fulham's top targets and Brentford rejected a bid of £1.75million for the 22-year-old earlier this summer.
Takowski has impressed at Brentford since joining the club from Oldham in January 2014, helping the club win promotion to the Championship in his first season and reach the play-off semi-finals last term.
SEE ALSO: Fulham lodge bid to bring in Brentford defender
Brentford are reluctant to lose Tarkowski, but Fulham have tested their resolve again by tabling a bid in the region of £3million as they aim to make some progress in search of defensive reinforcements.
Only Blackpool had a worst defensive record than Fulham last season and Symons knows he must improve his defence if they are to challenge for promotion this season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter)
Seems to be all over twitter. Great news if this deal comes through.
I'd be pleased with Dunk or Tarkowski. Both are young and quality players. Even Ream would be great signing, only thing setting them apart is age, as Ream is nearing 30.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 13, 2015, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 13, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Fulham make new offer for Brentford's Tarkowski
HITC Sport understands Fulham have made a new bid for Brentford defender James Tarkowski.
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Fulham have launched an improved offer for Brentford's James Tarkowski as they look to bolster their defensive options before the close of the transfer window.
Fulham have made a new centre-back one of their top targets this summer and have been linked with moves for the likes of Brighton's Lewis Dunk, Wolverhampton Wanderers' Richard Stearman and Sheffield Wednesday stopper Tom Lees.
Tarkowski is also among Fulham's top targets and Brentford rejected a bid of £1.75million for the 22-year-old earlier this summer.
Takowski has impressed at Brentford since joining the club from Oldham in January 2014, helping the club win promotion to the Championship in his first season and reach the play-off semi-finals last term.
SEE ALSO: Fulham lodge bid to bring in Brentford defender
Brentford are reluctant to lose Tarkowski, but Fulham have tested their resolve again by tabling a bid in the region of £3million as they aim to make some progress in search of defensive reinforcements.
Only Blackpool had a worst defensive record than Fulham last season and Symons knows he must improve his defence if they are to challenge for promotion this season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter)
Seems to be all over twitter. Great news if this deal comes through.
I'd be pleased with Dunk or Tarkowski. Both are young and quality players. Even Ream would be great signing, only thing setting them apart is age, as Ream is nearing 30.
let's do one over the bees, but everything about there chairman says he won't sell and especially to us
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
I know I'm being greedy but we should just buy both Dunk and Tarkowski. Our defence would be massively improved
Both long contracts with large buy out clauses
I think we are trying to get both.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 13, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
Knowing us, we'll end up with neither.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 13, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 13, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
Knowing us, we'll end up with neither.
Lol so true but yet so painful to accept. I really hope this time is different and we complete a window getting all of our targets
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 13, 2015, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 13, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 13, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
Knowing us, we'll end up with neither.
Lol so true but yet so painful to accept. I really hope this time is different and we complete a window getting all of our targets
we need to be realistic with Tarkowski though.the bees chairman is one of those rare breeds. He is a fan/fanatic of Brentford, and as such as Fulham fans would you sell one of your best to a local rival? I can't ser this one happening
Simon Peach @SimonPeach 54m54 minutes ago
Interested to see what happens with Tim Ream & Lewis Dunk. #FFC had been confident of getting both deals done
Though it wouldn't necessarily surprise me to see us sign two centre backs this summer, it would surprise me to see us sign two that wish to play on the same side of the defence. We saw with Brede Hangeland that you can't just shuffle around like it's nothing, it's requires a huge adaption in terms of how you defend, the angles you make up, how you press and how you tackle. Maybe Tarkowski could take to the right hand side like a duck to water, but you can't blame me for being wary given the failure of trying pushing Brede Hangeland to the right to bring in the left footed Fernando Amorebieta - Brede suffered from it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-arsenal-man-6243380 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-arsenal-man-6243380)
Fulham's chances of landing Brentford defender James Tarkowski have been dealt a big blow after an injury to Andreas Bjelland.
The Danish international joined the Bees for a club-record fee in the summer from FC Twente, but limped off on his debut in Tuesday night's League Cup drubbing against Oxford.
Bjelland went to see a specialist this afternoon, who confirmed the 27-year-old had suffered serious ligament damage that is likely to rule him out for the rest of the season.
That leaves Marinus Dijkhuizen with just three fit centre-backs, with Brentford unlikely to cash in on Tarkowski, who has been targeted by their west London rivals.
The Cottagers are also interested in Brighton defender Lewis Dunk.
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I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truly boggles.
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Well said Jay. 065.gif
Quote from: FPT on August 13, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
Though it wouldn't necessarily surprise me to see us sign two centre backs this summer, it would surprise me to see us sign two that wish to play on the same side of the defence. We saw with Brede Hangeland that you can't just shuffle around like it's nothing, it's requires a huge adaption in terms of how you defend, the angles you make up, how you press and how you tackle. Maybe Tarkowski could take to the right hand side like a duck to water, but you can't blame me for being wary given the failure of trying pushing Brede Hangeland to the right to bring in the left footed Fernando Amorebieta - Brede suffered from it.
All valid points.
Brede also suffered from Amorebieta being a massive pile if sh!t.
I'd be happy with Tarkowski and Hutchinson at CB till January if we can't get both. Hutchinson will have to prove himself this year and I think he'll do just that. He had a good game against Wycombe and I can see him carrying on that form this season. If we truly want to push for promotion I feel we will need 2 CB's though.
Phil Cadden, a sports reporter for the Sun, has tweeted:
"Fulham have made improved £4m bid for Brentford's James Tarkowski. Bees reluctant to sell following serious injury to Andreas Bjelland."
https://twitter.com/pjcadden/status/631971194833633281
Still feel we need a striker if McCormack gets injured I see any top 6 hopes we had fade very quickly. Surprised we not in for Dwight Gayle if ge going for £6m considering his age & pace
We maybe in for Gayle but also I think we are wanting to spend our money on areas, eg CB, that require more immediate reinforcements
Obviously time will tell if we get any more quality into the defence &/or attack before the window shuts or all the rumours turn out to be just that, rumours
Reflecting back on this close season I think we have taken huge steps not just to improve the squad but, at least as important, to balance it. I know that some, Ben especially, have argued with some merit that across the back 4 we are weaker (I am personally not sure about that), but if we make one good CB signing then I will look back on a decent summer. If we also strengthen the strike force then that would be beyond my wildest expectations of 3 mths ago. So come on AM, Rigg, Kit, Khan et al, complete the jigsaw and we can be genuine challengers!
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
this
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
It's true :012:
At this point I think we should just pay 9-10m to get in Tarkowski and Dunk, really solidify the defence, and really consider bringing in a first choice striker whether that be Gayle or someone else proven in this league. We need that third striker who will score 15-20 goals.
Midfield wise, we have by far the best midfield in the division in my opinion, both the first choice 4 and their back ups.
Player wise McCormack, O'Hara (probably 2 of the 5 best players in the division), Cairney, Pringle and probably LVC would walk into any side in the division and probably most lower premier league sides.
We should be expecting this side, when gelled to really have a good drive for promotion. I know people don't want to be optimistic but expectations should be high.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
..... and how would you feel if we lost out by more because instead of waiting for our no. 1 target, we bought a lesser replacement a week or two earlier just because he was available now. I'm hoping that the delay is due to Brighton playing hardball, and we are still in with a good chance of Dunk. In hindsight this will have been the best approach. If we haven't sorted it by the end of the window then it's open season for recriminations, but until then no one knows what is happening behind the scenes
Quote from: Chesh on August 14, 2015, 08:45:45 AM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
..... and how would you feel if we lost out by more because instead of waiting for our no. 1 target, we bought a lesser replacement a week or two earlier just because he was available now. I'm hoping that the delay is due to Brighton playing hardball, and we are still in with a good chance of Dunk. In hindsight this will have been the best approach. If we haven't sorted it by the end of the window then it's open season for recriminations, but until then no one knows what is happening behind the scenes
Agreed nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes, but it seems we have spent weeks putting in low bids that have little or no chance of succeeding. This should have been sorted weeks ago if the club is serious about a promotion piush.
Brad Pinard @Brad_Pinard 7m7 minutes ago
Pardew confirms Dwight Gayle asked him to leave but he is reluctant to join Bristol City.
Sounds like he's just waiting for an offer to be accepted by a team he wants to go to. I remember some saying he stuck around the Cottage after the Palace friendly and was impressed... Wonder what it'd take to get that deal done?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 14, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Brad Pinard @Brad_Pinard 7m7 minutes ago
Pardew confirms Dwight Gayle asked him to leave but he is reluctant to join Bristol City.
Sounds like he's just waiting for an offer to be accepted by a team he wants to go to. I remember some saying he stuck around the Cottage after the Palace friendly and was impressed... Wonder what it'd take to get that deal done?
The problem with the deal will be if Bristol City have included negating the sell on fee for Bolasie in the deal. Palace value Bolasie at 25m(!) so that's a lot of extra money basically included on top of the 6m transfer fee
Quote from: Ordar on August 14, 2015, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 14, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Brad Pinard @Brad_Pinard 7m7 minutes ago
Pardew confirms Dwight Gayle asked him to leave but he is reluctant to join Bristol City.
Sounds like he's just waiting for an offer to be accepted by a team he wants to go to. I remember some saying he stuck around the Cottage after the Palace friendly and was impressed... Wonder what it'd take to get that deal done?
The problem with the deal will be if Bristol City have included negating the sell on fee for Bolasie in the deal. Palace value him at 25m(!) so that's a lot of extra money basically included on top of the 6m transfer fee
Completely agree, but that deal's no good if the player won't agree to it. Hopefully, Gayle digs his heals in (which he should as he's far better than Bristol City standard) and Palace lower their expectations.
25 million!!Can only think of one person who would be happy paying that-but shows what the club are up against landing their remaining targets.Perhaps prices will be more realistic in a couple of weeks time?
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 14, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
25 million!!Can only think of one person who would be happy paying that-but shows what the club are up against landing their remaining targets.Perhaps prices will be more realistic in a couple of weeks time?
They value Bolasie at 25m, so with the reported 15% sell on fee that they'd be due, they're effectively offering an extra 2-4m for Gayle depending on how much Bolasie is sold for (assuming he is sold)
Gayle would be on another level in terms of signing and would give us a different dynamic up front.
McCormack could supply him all day.
Apparently Dwight wants to stay in London, and did stay around after pre-season game, apparently spoke very highly of the facilities.
I guess we'll know if the Dink deal is on or not when we hear the pre-match comments from Hughton today, or at worst when line-ups are announced tomorrow. If Dunk plays at the Cottage I see the deal as a non-starter, if not he must be ours, barring late interventions from Premiership clubs.
If Fulham pay out £12m & sign Lewis Dunk & Dwight Gayle then we have a very good chance of being in the top 6 at the end of the season. Interesting to see how much the Club want promotion over the next few weeks
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 14, 2015, 10:05:05 AM
If Fulham pay out £12m & sign Lewis Dunk & Dwight Gayle then we have a very good chance of being in the top 6 at the end of the season. Interesting to see how much the Club want promotion over the next few weeks
I really wouldn't hold your breath on that. Maybe one, but not both. And I don't personally think we will get either. Plus Gayle has said he wants to stay in the prem
If we are chasing Reem and the chap from Brentford, I'm pretty confident that the Dunk deal has fallen through.
We can always dream and hope they are chasing 2 CBs instead of one... Hence the interest for Ream and Tarkowski on top of Dunk, instead as a pure fallback solution.
Interesting to notice that it all went quiet on the Dunk front over the last 24 hours: good or bad omen?
My predictions
Dunk will not be a fulham player on 1st September
Gayle will not be a Fulham player on 1st September
Tarkowski will not be a Fulham player on 1st September
Ream looking likely to join QPR so will not be a Fulham player on 1st September
We will sign 1 or 2 more players, a CB on loan similar to the Turner capture. The second player, who knows??? Could be cb, mid or fwd!!
We will send a few out on loan, and sell a couple of fringe players on the cheap.
This is based on Fulham being Fulham!
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 14, 2015, 10:56:24 AM
We can always dream and hope they are chasing 2 CBs instead of one... Hence the interest for Ream and Tarkowski on top of Dunk, instead as a pure fallback solution.
Interesting to notice that it all went quiet on the Dunk front over the last 24 hours: good or bad omen?
Quiet as in Twitter quiet ? It's always quiet from the club.
Yes, Twitter quiet. Not expecting anything from the club to be honest.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 14, 2015, 11:05:01 AM
Yes, Twitter quiet. Not expecting anything from the club to be honest.
would you rather a load of tweets full of lies. I'll start a couple. " even though Fulham haven't submitted a bid big enough for Brighton to accept, Dunk is currently having a medical at motspur par"# it's all true honest....
And "even though Brentford have said they won't sell him and especially, now that their other CB is out for the season, Tarkowski is now magically avaliable to buy"#greatwaytolooklikeyourtryingtobuyaplayerknowingitwillnevergetaccepted,butthefanswillbelieveyoutried
At least the Twitter feed makes that period of the year entertaining.... A bit like a soap opera. Whether you believe what you read or not is another matter.
As supporters we will always be in the dark regarding transfer dealings until the last moment anyway.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 14, 2015, 11:19:13 AM
At least the Twitter feed makes that period of the year entertaining.... A bit like a soap opera. Whether you believe what you read or not is another matter.
As supporters we will always be in the dark regarding transfer dealings until the last moment anyway.
a lot of false hopes though,you get more accurate snippets on here and tiff than you do twitter
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 14, 2015, 10:50:25 AM
If we are chasing Reem and the chap from Brentford, I'm pretty confident that the Dunk deal has fallen through.
I look at it as if we are chasing them maybe one is a fall back option in case Dunk doesn't come. AT this stage none of us know who we are after and who we are not as it is all press and social media rumours
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AM
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Would you accept?
Half the fun of these transfer windows is the speculation I haven't got a scooby how it will end up, a welcome surprise maybe , bitter disappointed or just plain old mediocre.
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
To replace the injured bj
Quote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
maybe yes, meaning Tarkowski could be available
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
It's to replace the right back they sold to Hull apparently
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
I'm gonna take into account all the other times we dropped points too.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
It's to replace the right back they sold to Hull apparently
fair enough, makes them less likely to sell Tarkowski though
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Alot of money for someone who is not too prolific
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
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To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
It's to replace the right back they sold to Hull apparently
fair enough, makes them less likely to sell Tarkowski though
Didn't know they had sold a right back, but they have another couple of those too, so I would not give up yet on Tarkowski. Remain upbeat we have done well so far this summer, yes we need a CB or 2 but have faith in those doing the job its as I say gone well so far. Not everyone is available prior to the season starting
Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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I'm always sceptical about the "set to make a bid" phrase. If a club is "set" to make the bid, why haven't they made it? How long does it take to send a fax/email/however they do it these days? IMO, it's the media's way of having an out if the selling club turns round and says they've received no bids, as they can say they were "set" to make it, rather than actually made it.
Ross signs new deal http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/14/mccormacks-contract-extension (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/14/mccormacks-contract-extension)
This is a great interview by the way. Well worth the 4 minutes. Very honest and open.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Can't see us paying anywhere near 8 million.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AM
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Would you accept?
Obviously on his way.
......ooops!
Twitter:Where would we be without it?
Quote from: cmg on August 14, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AM
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Would you accept?
Obviously on his way.
......ooops!
Twitter:Where would we be without it?
Ross new contract will now have an 8m buy out clause
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Quote from: cmg on August 14, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AM
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Would you accept?
Obviously on his way.
......ooops!
Twitter:Where would we be without it?
Ross new contract will now have an 8m buy out clause
Lol brilliant,
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 01:00:47 PM
Ross signs new deal http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/14/mccormacks-contract-extension (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/14/mccormacks-contract-extension)
This is a great interview by the way. Well worth the 4 minutes. Very honest and open.
Excellent interview. He comes over very well.
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Can't see us paying anywhere near 8 million.
Why would we pay £8m when it's public knowledge that Bristol had £6m accepted?
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Can't see us paying anywhere near 8 million.
Why would we pay £8m when it's public knowledge that Bristol had £6m accepted?
They allegedly included waving any future % on Bolasie sale.
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play)
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play)
Well done chaps
Dunk throwing toys-tomorrow wiil be interesting then.
I very much doubt that's true. I expect him to play tomorrow, and probably have a blinder
It goes on to say from someone else that he's on the team bus and in the squad for tomorrow. We'll see tomorrow I guess...
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 14, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
It goes on to say from someone else that he's on the team bus and in the squad for tomorrow. We'll see tomorrow I guess...
Would have though they would have travelled up tomorrow hardly a long journey
Quote from: mkras99 on August 14, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play)
Really hoping that this isn't true.
Sure. It bodes well for those chasing his signature. At the same time, who's to say that he won't behave this way once again when the next time to move comes around. Transfers are a part of the business. Playing for the team one signed to play with is as well. Hoping he's not being this childish. Just hand in your transfer request son.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
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Quote from: mkras99 on August 14, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play)
Really hoping that this isn't true.
Sure. It bodes well for those chasing his signature. At the same time, who's to say that he won't behave this way once again when the next time to move comes around. Transfers are a part of the business. Playing for the team one signed to play with is as well. Hoping he's not being this childish. Just hand in your transfer request son.
That's a fair point. However we simply don't know what's gone on with this 'transfer' behind closed doors. Maybe Brighton have said they'll sell but wanted to hang on for various reasons and he's simply had enough.
Trebel from Standard Liege has signed an extension. So we can cross that one from the list. Went cold a while ago anyway.
Someone on tiff claiming we have bid 8 mil for gayle
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
Just read whole 16 page thread and it was all started by an unsubstantiated rumour, that the poster is now a bit sheepish about, and someone has confirmed he is definitely on the bus and currently in the squad.
I suppose we'll only find out when the teams are announced, but my gut feeling is that he'll play, but we could still sign him by 31st August. He'd better not score that's all... :doh:
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
Someone on tiff claiming we have bid 8 mil for gayle
http://www.winnersports.co.uk/fulham-fc-join-the-race-for-dwight-gayle-by-placing-8million-bid-72091 (http://www.winnersports.co.uk/fulham-fc-join-the-race-for-dwight-gayle-by-placing-8million-bid-72091)
Though I keep checking the latest rumours here I am not expecting any more deals to be concluded until the last 48 hours of the window .
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
Someone on tiff claiming we have bid 8 mil for gayle
Might as well.spend it on attack cos we cant buy a centre back or organise a defence for that matter
We've offered more than qpr for ream apparantly, deal could still be on for us then.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 14, 2015, 07:37:17 PM
We've offered more than qpr for ream apparantly, deal could still be on for us then.
Looks to be so. Apparently, we have either matched or outbid qpr. If true, it's now up to Ream to decide.
Here is the article - http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13598876.Ream_s_QPR_deal_in_the_balance_as_Fulham_make_last_gasp_bid/ (http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13598876.Ream_s_QPR_deal_in_the_balance_as_Fulham_make_last_gasp_bid/)
From SkySports Transfer Centre (Guess this is based on the link above):
20:34
REAM DEAL FOR FULHAM
Fulham have made a successful last-ditch bid to sign Bolton's Tim Ream, according to the Bolton News.
QPR thought they had the deal wrapped up after having a £1.75m bid accepted but Fulham are in talks with Ream's representative over a deal.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
Just read whole 16 page thread and it was all started by an unsubstantiated rumour, that the poster is now a bit sheepish about, and someone has confirmed he is definitely on the bus and currently in the squad.
I suppose we'll only find out when the teams are announced, but my gut feeling is that he'll play, but we could still sign him by 31st August. He'd better not score that's all... :doh:
Actually the seemingly respected poster on the Brighton site who initially poo pooed the rumour by saying he was 100% sure he was playing, and was on the bus, is now not so sure about the playing bit - which has spooked the rest of the board. Could be an interesting day tomorrow...
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Why would we bid 8m for gayle when bristol had 6m accepted?
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PM
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
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Quote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he
makes a full
recovery.
There is a lot of noise going on right now. I am getting optimistic that we may have 2-3 more players in the next week.
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
Why would we bid 8m for gayle when bristol had 6m accepted?
I believe part of that was waiving a sell on fee that Bristol City had for Yannick Bolasie. 15% I believe, so should Bolasie leave for the £25m Pardew continues to quote, that's £3.75m that could go to Bristol City. You could say that they met in the middle to agree a deal for Dwight Gayle.
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Quote from: KP_FFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
Why would we bid 8m for gayle when bristol had 6m accepted?
I believe part of that was waiving a sell on fee that Bristol City had for Yannick Bolasie. 15% I believe, so should Bolasie leave for the £25m Pardew continues to quote, that's £3.75m that could go to Bristol City. You could say that they met in the middle to agree a deal for Dwight Gayle.
fair enough i suppose, thanks for clearing it up.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 14, 2015, 11:10:54 PM
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
Twitter saying ream to qphaha is off and has had his head turned but after a late bid from us after being all but done deal
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Huge difference in quality between Dunk & Ream. Ream, to me is an ok Championship defender.
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Quote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
I assume you mean the person above and not me?
P.s - relax.
Joe Prince-Wright (@JPW_NBCSports)
8/15/15, 6:56 AM
I can confirm that #USMNT's Tim Ream has made a U-turn, highly likely to now sign for @FulhamFC instead of #QPR. More details soon...
Joe Prince-Wright (@JPW_NBCSports)
8/15/15, 7:00 AM
... Fulham certainly in the driving seat. Expect more details on this move in the coming days. More on prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com shortly
Will be interesting to see if Ream is Plan B to Lewis Dunk or maybe the club will bring both in as Ream can cover at LB if Garbutt breaks down again
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
I assume you mean the person above and not me?
P.s - relax.
I assume he means the one above me. I just said he may have seductiones cordis amplitudinem
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 15, 2015, 12:27:28 PM
Will be interesting to see if Ream is Plan B to Lewis Dunk or maybe the club will bring both in as Ream can cover at LB if Garbutt breaks down again
Well, that would be an interesting thought.
ream has played more than 40 league games in each of the last 2 seasons in this league, he's been their player of the year, and he is the right side of 30. a solid signing in an area we need more quality. i hope this goes our way.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 12:21:45 PM
Joe Prince-Wright (@JPW_NBCSports)
8/15/15, 6:56 AM
I can confirm that #USMNT's Tim Ream has made a U-turn, highly likely to now sign for @FulhamFC instead of #QPR. More details soon...
Joe Prince-Wright (@JPW_NBCSports)
8/15/15, 7:00 AM
... Fulham certainly in the driving seat. Expect more details on this move in the coming days. More on prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com shortly
Perhaps he's had a quiet word with his USA team mate Clint Dempsey and maybe Brian Mcbride? for some info on us.
http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/15/usmnt-center-back-tim-ream-makes-u-turn-highly-likely-to-sign-for-fulham-over-qpr/ (http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/15/usmnt-center-back-tim-ream-makes-u-turn-highly-likely-to-sign-for-fulham-over-qpr/)
Massively speculative, but the club just tweeted:
"Be sure to listen to #FFCradio from 2pm for some breaking news and exclusive interview. #ffc"
Possible transfer news?
Wasn't it D Ream that sang 'Things can only get better'? An omen?
Betts contract extension!
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 15, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Betts contract extension!
Listening to him now. Great news.
That is great news.
BBC Manchester Sport (@BBCMancSports)
8/15/15, 9:09 AM
Tim Ream set to join Fulham from @OfficialBWFC . Expected to sign him on Monday. 2 players in next week for Wanderers.
#breakingnews #
No Ream at Bolton today.
Looks like we'll at least have one new CB in this week - http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/ (http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/)
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 05:35:57 PM
Looks like we'll at least have one new CB in this week - http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/ (http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/)
won't be Dunk if he watched that. Will be the cheaper option no doubt
Quote from: fulhamben on August 15, 2015, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 05:35:57 PM
Looks like we'll at least have one new CB in this week - http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/ (http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/)
won't be Dunk if he watched that. Will be the cheaper option no doubt
Dunk isn't going to make a decision based on one game. I think we'll add both.
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To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
to replace the injured beljend I should imagine
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
One reaps what one sows.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 06:44:53 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
in all areas? Does that mean we are looking at proper managers too?
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http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
in all areas? Does that mean we are looking at proper managers too?
He didn't say all areas did he? Thought I heard he said areas he believes need strengthening
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 15, 2015, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 06:44:53 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
in all areas? Does that mean we are looking at proper managers too?
He didn't say all areas did he? Thought I heard he said areas he believes need strengthening
even a blind man could see we need to strengthen in the managerial area though, so it must be true
Sky reporting ream deal is close
http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11681/9951023/fulham-closing-on-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11681/9951023/fulham-closing-on-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
For me if the club want to stand any chance if promotion we need Ream in as he can cover CB & LB we also need to bring in Lewis Dunk & a striker with some pace who can get behind teams. If we brought in Ream, Dunk & Gayle I would feel more positive for sure
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
He'll of been impressed with the huge QPR faithfuls dedication....all 48000 of them snuck into the ground dressed as empty seats. Great atmosphere.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 16, 2015, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
He'll of been impressed with the huge QPR faithfuls dedication....all 48000 of them snuck into the ground dressed as empty seats. Great atmosphere.
Lol
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
less ferdinand? I am sure thats just a freudian slip :005:
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Just like the cosy up that Ferdinand was having with Ream the night before.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2015, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Just like the cosy up that Ferdinand was having with Ream the night before.
It's a better indication than Fulham are preparing a bid though
Neil Lennon says it looks like the Tim Ream to Fulham will go through.
FF to about 2 mins 30
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx (http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx)
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Fan forums are a terrible way of judging player ability particularly during a transfer window. Too much emotional impact to the fans.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
He won their player of the year for the past few seasons. So while not a great improvement on what we have he is an improvement none the less.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Strange to vote him player of the season two seasons running and then post things like this. I'd be more inclined to believe the two accolades and what they mean than I would postings about him on his way out the door.
What does being Bolton's player of the season really mean? In the context of Bolton, obviously a good thing. In the context of the league, who knows? But, they would not have voted him that award if he was crap against the remainder of the league.
I see him being a Baird type player for us. Provides cover for several positions for which we have little depth (CB, LB, and DMid) and, therein lies his value to us. This is the important bit to the whole transfer IMHO.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 16, 2015, 04:00:58 PM
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
He won their player of the year for the past few seasons. So while not a great improvement on what we have he is an improvement none the less.
Our defense is a circus , it's a huge improvement on paper.
Quote from: BarryP on August 16, 2015, 03:55:27 PM
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Fan forums are a terrible way of judging player ability particularly during a transfer window. Too much emotional impact to the fans.
lo
Yep totally agree.I remember going on Evertons and Newcastles when we signed Simon Davies and Damian Duff, there wasn't a single good word said about either and they were brilliant for us.
Its typical football fan fayre when a player leaves, just seems bizarre how a guy who has won player of the year two seasons running now is suddenly crap.
Was the same with the Wolves and Brighton messageboards regarding McDonald and Dunk, LD went from Seagulls legend in the making to error prone liability in some of their eyes ??.
All over Twitter...we have apparently put in a bid of £10m for Gayle (£8+add ons).
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 16, 2015, 06:07:42 PM
All over Twitter...we have apparently put in a bid of £10m for Gayle (£8+add ons).
one bloke saying it as far as I can see
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
How do you that mate, heard something?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 16, 2015, 06:07:42 PM
All over Twitter...we have apparently put in a bid of £10m for Gayle (£8+add ons).
one bloke saying it as far as I can see
If I were Khan and saw the number of chances that went begging in the second half yesterday, this would be my response.
Someone just posted this. Sounds like we got a new septic on board 049:gif:
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx (http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx)
Quote from: WONKYTONKY on August 16, 2015, 10:06:45 PM
Someone just posted this. Sounds like we got a new septic on board 049:gif:
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx (http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx)
Without sounding to ungrateful, this isn't a signing that's going to make any real difference, or one I will chose to get excited about. Smacks me in the face as a panic signing after chasing Lewis Dunk for weeks with no outcome.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 10:17:21 PM
Quote from: WONKYTONKY on August 16, 2015, 10:06:45 PM
Someone just posted this. Sounds like we got a new septic on board 049:gif:
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx (http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx)
Without sounding to ungrateful, this isn't a signing that's going to make any real difference, or one I will chose to get excited about. Smacks me in the face as a panic signing after chasing Lewis Dunk for weeks with no outcome.
2 seasons in a row their player of the year. Can play a few positions. GREAT signing in my book. Don't think were done their either. Hopeful of a big name defender to go with it.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
Fulham are probably sat waiting for a call from Brighton say we'll take the 2.5m for him, in the mean time another club will come in and pa what Brighton are looking for
Quote from: Nero on August 16, 2015, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
Fulham are probably sat waiting for a call from Brighton say we'll take the 2.5m for him, in the mean time another club will come in and pa what Brighton are looking for
Bottom line is, Brighton want 5 million, we either pay it, or move on. Like I've said, the Ream deal smacks in the face as a desperation singing knowing that Brighton won't budge. Hope I'm proved wrong, Ream alone won't improve our situation.
We all know its central defenders we need, two from Ream, Tarkowski and Dunk would be great but lets face it we would have settled for just one of those 3 prior to the season starting. As long as we upgrade then I am happy with that.
I am getting sick and tired of stupid defensive errors costing us points. We had one on Saturday no need to make the tackle, edge of the box and wide on the line, stay on your feet and keep him wide, Cover was coming from behind and the full back chasing back just see the game out.
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Think we need a new starting defensive pairing - that means we need two new CBs. Happy with Ream as one but we need to bring another in, whatever the cost.
If we expect Garbett to recover well and play for the rest of the season then we will just have to make do at left back until then. But I think we need to bring in another full back who can play either side as cover. If Garbett is going to be a risk for rest of the season we might as well send him back (if possible) and spend out on a decent left back of our own.
Quote from: Snibbo on August 17, 2015, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Sadly true. But this negativity is an illustration of where many of the supporters are right now. We have suffered 3, possibly 4, years of decline and many inexplicable decisions by the club's management team. End result is a cynical atmosphere and a tendency to see the worst in everything. There are still those who try to resist this attitude, and I am not defending it, but you sure as hell can understand and sympathise with supporters who have had enough.
Really, really, really pee'd off that we didn't rectify our defensive issues before the start of this season. It's not negativity, it's frustration that the Club knew about this all last season, and had this summer to act, but we haven't, we continued to stockpile midfielders.
Whether or not the Dunk rumours are true, why have we left it this late, even to bring Ream in?! Regardless, we should have been looking abroad for adequate replacements in time.
Regardless of Hutchinson's good start, he was always a mistake waiting to happen, and he's done it 2 games in. We're now also 5 pts off a good start, possibly 8 by the time Wednesday night comes.
If we don't sign some more decent players soon then I am also going to loose faith in the leadership of the club.
Quote from: Twig on August 17, 2015, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on August 17, 2015, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Sadly true. But this negativity is an illustration of where many of the supporters are right now. We have suffered 3, possibly 4, years of decline and many inexplicable decisions by the club's management team. End result is a cynical atmosphere and a tendency to see the worst in everything. There are still those who try to resist this attitude, and I am not defending it, but you sure as hell can understand and sympathise with supporters who have had enough.
+1 to all three of these posts
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 17, 2015, 10:55:50 AM
Really, really, really pee'd off that we didn't rectify our defensive issues before the start of this season. It's not negativity, it's frustration that the Club knew about this all last season, and had this summer to act, but we haven't, we continued to stockpile midfielders.
Whether or not the Dunk rumours are true, why have we left it this late, even to bring Ream in?! Regardless, we should have been looking abroad for adequate replacements in time.
Regardless of Hutchinson's good start, he was always a mistake waiting to happen, and he's done it 2 games in. We're now also 5 pts off a good start, possibly 8 by the time Wednesday night comes.
In order to buy someone else's player, his team has to want to sell that player. The idiocy of the English transfer window extending 3+ weeks into the season has a lot to do with this. In Dunk's case, so did his team playing ours on the second weekend of the season. We just signed an obscure Finnish defensive midfielder and you're to believe that the club didn't search for options outside England to fix the roster's hugest hole?
It seems they want Dunk, and there's still a solid chance they get Dunk at the end of the day. In the interim, they reacted quickly to a new emergency and poached Ream from QPR, which is a nice double bonus.
I know everyone's peeved about the sloppy and wasteful start to the season, but by all rights, we should be on six points. Look to the sideline for the major problem, not the owner's box.
Burnley to Bid 1 million for Nathan Byrne, hes a decent looking player to be fair, worth a risk at a million
Jamie O'Hara is a rubbish player, past his prime on a terrible Blackpool team.......
Never judge a player in another club's shirt. Only in the White, should they face the jury. That's how I'll view any player incoming
Turning around an mile long oil tanker in mid stream is a tricky manoeuvre.
Reckon we are a third of the way there.
Next season we will be all ahead forward.
Patience dear friends.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 17, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Turning around an mile long oil tanker in mid stream is a tricky manoeuvre.
Reckon we are a third of the way there.
Next season we will be all ahead forward.
Patience dear friends.
To be honest, Rigg did come across that this season would be another one for stabilisation, and that the promotion push would come in the 3rd year. However, I'm still not convinced we're doing things good enough to achieve that.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 17, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Turning around an mile long oil tanker in mid stream is a tricky manoeuvre.
Reckon we are a third of the way there.
Next season we will be all ahead forward.
Patience dear friends.
agree with this if you are referring to players. my main concern is whether kit can get us promoted even if we get the required quality of players - i don't think he is up to the task.
There is a rumour that Ream will be confirmed today, not a bad signing, plays CB can cover LB (handy with Garbutt out) and also cover defensive midfield if we get a plethora of injuries in midfield.
Like to see another CB follow if I am honest
Quote from: westcliff white on August 17, 2015, 11:51:20 AM
There is a rumour that Ream will be confirmed today, not a bad signing, plays CB can cover LB (handy with Garbutt out) and also cover defensive midfield if we get a plethora of injuries in midfield.
Like to see another CB follow if I am honest
I can only see us getting top half if we sign 2 CB's. Hutch has mistake written all over him. Bodurov doesn't always seem with it...
Ream is good business. Position of need, or should we say positions of need. Is a proven starter at this level and will make us better. We are all aware that he alone will not fix the issues, but it is a step in the right direction.
After reading the board the last few days, apparently the only positive at the club that we all can agree on is that O'Hara is a great signing. Hopefully Ream comes in and shows us similar quality and professionalism. Hopefully is he one of (2) CBs coming in and we will get another before the window closes.
According to the Bolton fans website, Ream is supposed to be injured. Apparently received a 'dead leg' which has caused all sorts of complications. Medical, especially ours, would sort that out but we need cb's now!
Dead leg....isn't that one of those fake EA sports game injuries that takes forever to heal? or was it three days....I cant remember. I think three days...according to EA sport he should be good to go this weekend. =)
if the rumours are right and Ream signs today be interesting to see what number he takes, if he doesn't take 5 does that mean we have another CB coming in
definitely need at least 2 C.Hs.
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
I do not think we do have a squad that can challenge for top 6, we are short of required talent at CB, Hutch is prone to rash actions, tale Saturday as the latest example, Bodurov doesn't fill me with confidence either, then we have Burn, he has something and I do believe he will come good but he needs a leader next to him to bring him through more. None of those 3 are overly quick either and all turn slowly as well. I liked Turner last season and all 3 of the linked CB's would be an upgrade. If we could take two from those linked and Turner I would be a happy man.
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
no way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
It will be interesting to watch our team when all the ducks are in a row (2x CB's and a fast striker)
A short term deal for another Roma fullback wouldn't go amiss to top it off?
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 17, 2015, 02:10:10 PM
It will be interesting to watch our team when all the ducks are in a row (2x CB's and a fast striker)
A short term deal for another Roma fullback wouldn't go amiss to top it off?
If our ducks get in a row. I'm not convinced we will get 2 CB's in. Or a pacey striker.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
no way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
This. I am not sure this squad has enough goals in it, even if we improve the defense to challenge for top 6.
I think we really do need a quick striker to compliment either Smith or McCormack. Dembele looks unlikely to sign a new deal and I suspect will be a bench player or sold.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
no way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
I understand this point of view but I think you overstate this just a bit;
Goalkeeping - improved
Defence - lost some players with only Garbutt coming in and he's now injured - weakened
Midfield - sold Ruiz, but some very useful strengthening although we still lack width - improved
Up front - lost a potentially top quality striker who was always either injured or uncommitted but the youngsters are a year older and stronger - neutral
Quote from: Twig on August 17, 2015, 03:52:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
no way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
I understand this point of view but I think you overstate this just a bit;
Goalkeeping - improved
Defence - lost some players with only Garbutt coming in and he's now injured - weakened
Midfield - sold Ruiz, but some very useful strengthening although we still lack width - improved
Up front - lost a potentially top quality striker who was always either injured or uncommitted but the youngsters are a year older and stronger - neutral
we didn't just lose Ruiz from midfield. And how can you lose Hugo and Mitro, replace them with no one and call it neutral?
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
If we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the money
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 04:41:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
If we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the money
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 04:41:09 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
If we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the money
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
If we weren't arsed about results and just wanted a day out Khan would be in his hard hat getting us an enormous screen. When we want to achieve he goes missing.
Quote from: Snibbo on August 17, 2015, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Welcome to FOF.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 17, 2015, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 04:49:04 PM
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Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
If we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the money
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
If we weren't arsed about results and just wanted a day out Khan would be in his hard hat getting us an enormous screen. When we want to achieve he goes missing.
You believe he bought us because we were so obviously "arsed about results"??? Probably should go back and remind yourself just how well we were performing prior to his purchase. We were already circling the drain.
Joe Prince-Wright @JPW_NBCSports 12m12 minutes ago
Expect Tim Ream to be announced as a Fulham player in coming hours on a long-term deal. Fulhamerica lives on. #FFC #USMNT
How much of a sunk cost are these two guys? I dread to think of what Parker and Tunnicliffe earn weekly combined. If we could offload both I would jump at the opportunity!
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 11:32:24 PM
How much of a sunk cost are these two guys? I dread to think of what Parker and Tunnicliffe earn weekly combined. If we could offload both I would jump at the opportunity!
Tunnicliffe and Cole won't be big earners at all. They were youth products at Man United.
Parker on the other hand... well some reports say he's the biggest earner in the league at £75k others report it around £60k..
I read in the Swiss press that Kasami wants to leave Greece. His transfer to Fiorentina seems to be collapsing. So he is meant to be looking for a club in England. I would take him back in a heartbeat. He would bring some passion and grit.
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An avid Falkirk FC friend tells me we have enquired about Botti Biabi, nineteen year old striker, raw talent. Reported in Falkirk Herald last Thursday apparently. Swansea also interested.
With Woodrow and Dembele with the first team, our U21s are really short on strikers, so this makes sense.
Looks like he's gone to Swansea. Shame because he has huge potential - we really need young strikers of his stature, esp if Dembele leaves.
My Falkirk friend was told price of £275k + add ons.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDkQFjAFahUKEwiruJfznbLHAhXxFtsKHUTYAHk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swanseacity.net%2Fnews%2Farticle%2Fswansea-city-snap-up-falkirk-striker-botti-biabi-2619468.aspx&ei=du_SVaulDvGt7AbEsIPIBw&usg=AFQjCNEqifmQRZJjXajLQ-NleqXlFXn_ag (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDkQFjAFahUKEwiruJfznbLHAhXxFtsKHUTYAHk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swanseacity.net%2Fnews%2Farticle%2Fswansea-city-snap-up-falkirk-striker-botti-biabi-2619468.aspx&ei=du_SVaulDvGt7AbEsIPIBw&usg=AFQjCNEqifmQRZJjXajLQ-NleqXlFXn_ag)
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Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
no way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
I understand this point of view but I think you overstate this just a bit;
Goalkeeping - improved
Defence - lost some players with only Garbutt coming in and he's now injured - weakened
Midfield - sold Ruiz, but some very useful strengthening although we still lack width - improved
Up front - lost a potentially top quality striker who was always either injured or uncommitted but the youngsters are a year older and stronger - neutral
we didn't just lose Ruiz from midfield. And how can you lose Hugo and Mitro, replace them with no one and call it neutral?
Sorry Ben wasn't trying to list all the ins and outs. Still feel the midfield has been strengthened but yes, I did ignore Hugo's departure so will concede on that one even tough as the season progressed he looked less and less effective. Let's hope that we are finally beginning to turn the tide in terms of the back four with Ream's signing.
Eisfeld apparently having his contract terminated.
So 500k, if not more, on Eisfeld and 300k on Kiraly. We also have to pay Eisfeld off. Bones of a million quid chucked away. Could have used it to buy Dunk ;)
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 18, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
Eisfeld apparently having his contract terminated.
So 500k, if not more, on Eisfeld and 300k on Kiraly. We also have to pay Eisfeld off. Bones of a million quid chucked away. Could have used it to buy Dunk ;)
Or we're clearing wages because the 5 million bid was accepted ;)
Let's get this Tim Ream deal announced today and focus on adding Dunk or Tark as well. At that point, perhaps we can stop bleeding goals in the last 15 minutes of matches.
I was surprised at the price for Ream though.....if this article is to be believed.
http://www.onceametro.com/2015/8/17/9164061/report-3-6-million-tim-ream-transfer-from-bolton-wanderers-to-fulham (http://www.onceametro.com/2015/8/17/9164061/report-3-6-million-tim-ream-transfer-from-bolton-wanderers-to-fulham)
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 18, 2015, 08:49:11 AM
I read in the Swiss press that Kasami wants to leave Greece. His transfer to Fiorentina seems to be collapsing. So he is meant to be looking for a club in England. I would take him back in a heartbeat. He would bring some passion and grit.
would love to see kasami back in a whites shirt.
I would welcome Kasami back in a heart beat! Would cost about 5mill though so there is no chance if it happening.
Looks like Newcastle are in for Dunk.
I'm pretty sure we had little intention of going back in for him but our hand was forced following yet another dismal defence display against Brighton.
Perhaps Hutchinson did us a favour!!
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 18, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
Eisfeld apparently having his contract terminated.
So 500k, if not more, on Eisfeld and 300k on Kiraly. We also have to pay Eisfeld off. Bones of a million quid chucked away. Could have used it to buy Dunk ;)
Would imagine it's mutual agreement so may not have to fully pay out
http://www.espnfc.us/story/2569827/american-tim-ream-agrees-four-year-deal-with-fulham--sources (http://www.espnfc.us/story/2569827/american-tim-ream-agrees-four-year-deal-with-fulham--sources)
Good to see Sears bag himself a new contract at Ipswich, always looked a decent talent but needed that "father" figure manager too much.
Bassong extending his contract with Norwich removes a dreamers acquisition
Pedro looks a snip for the red Mancs at EUR22m to me!!
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Dunk on the Brighton bench again.
Good
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Because we are penny pinching and NOT serious about promotion?
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Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Because we are penny pinching and NOT serious about promotion?
Or, City are absolutely single-minded about their need.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 18, 2015, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Because we are penny pinching and NOT serious about promotion?
That's ALL their money if the City boards are to be believed. Gambling everything on one player is a risk.. As we did last year. And remember they are allowed a loss of 13m
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If Brentford sell Gray, they will have someone else lined up !
Maybe, but we appear (so far) to have spent all ours on the midfield.
We are extremely weak in defence and I can't see us being amongst the top scorers!
We are still very narrow too, even though we added to midfield.
I don't know, but it all seems uncoordinated (no idea/no plan) to me?
I really, really hope I'm wrong and being pessimistic for no reason - but I can't help it.
I see no real improvement and am worried about another terribly stressful season.
Come on Fulham - give me back those days or real excitement and expectation that I've missed for a good few seasons now!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 18, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
Maybe, but we appear (so far) to have spent all ours on the midfield.
We are extremely weak in defence and I can't see us being amongst the top scorers!
We are still very narrow too, even though we added to midfield.
I don't know, but it all seems uncoordinated (no idea/no plan) to me?
I really, really hope I'm wrong and being pessimistic for no reason - but I can't help it.
I see no real improvement and am worried about another terribly stressful season.
Come on Fulham - give me back those days or real excitement and expectation that I've missed for a good few seasons now!
I think we have a plan. I'd love kit to come out and say that he wants to play narrow as if not why does it still seem to be the plan. I think we are trying to be dynamic and keep switching. Lvc, cairney, pringle and Ross can all pull out wide and if they alternate it would be very hard to mark them. Add kaka to that list if playing and we could have players popping up all over the place. I know from my limited experience of 5aside that sometimes you have a player under your thumb or you can put a good marker to shadow one player all game. With constant swapping of quality players this would be impossible. Not to mention the engine room of Ohara who in another thread I have mentioned will need special attention.
bottom line...stop bleeding goals and we will finish mid table and avoid a relegation fight. The midfield is good enough for a promotion fight. The strike force is mid table. The defense is bottom table. Our stated goal is promotion, therefore we must address the defense and striker situation or it is all lip service. I suspect we will address both to some degree, just not sure that we shore them up enough to push to the top of the table. It is realistic that this will still be a two year build back to promotion. Good news is the 4 year contracts that we seem to be signing.
I think we need to sign two CBs (ream + 1) this window and would be nice to get the striker sorted out. Go back for a LB in the next window (perm. not a loan) if we are mid table or higher. I would love to get promoted this year, but unless we spend 10-15 million more I don't see it in the cards. That is assuming Kit can get it done.
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
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Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
You want to sign a 31yo CB over a 23yo budding star CB for a team that a) isn't ready for promotion this season and b) needs to sell players to make budget/buy more players. Mmmkay.
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 18, 2015, 11:11:12 PM
Quote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
You want to sign a 31yo CB over a 23yo budding star CB for a team that a) isn't ready for promotion this season and b) needs to sell players to make budget/buy more players. Mmmkay.
Yes I would rather have an experienced leader and no-nonsense defender with a few years left in him, than a young-ish Championship defender that some on here make out to be some kind of huge talent and/or saviour. There's nothing wrong with Dunk, but there wouldn't be with Burn either if he played for any other Championship team (as seen during his time with a struggling Birmingham team).
And as for not ready for promotion, what do you even mean by that? We have three years of parachute payments, after that we'll be less and less ready for every year that passes. And let's not kid ourselves that Kit is putting out a lineup full of youngsters each week that just needs a year or two to be ready, because he doesn't.
"We have three years of parachute payments, after that we'll be less and less ready for every year that passes."
What I would say to that Twang, if I could just pop in for a moment, is with that being the case, wouldn't you want younger players that can give you, a) more years of service, b) grow as part of a more dominant team. If James Collins was to come in, and we didn't get promoted, that's another year he is closer to his quality diminishing and his worth coming to an end. Whereas a Lewis Dunk would be another year better off and we'd be another year closer to being the team we want to be. And if we weren't to go up with Lewis Dunk and the younger players in our squad, we can sell one to stay afloat and help the money flow - we now have multiple assets when in our last season of the Premier League we had very few.
Does anyone think we have a signing or two that will completely surprise us? It seems almost every transfer window (or at least the summer window) we always sign a player completey off everyone's radar. I'm hoping we do.
Also, I know Kit wants championship experienced players, but maybe it's time to look elsewhere.
Quote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:45:24 PM
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Quote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
You want to sign a 31yo CB over a 23yo budding star CB for a team that a) isn't ready for promotion this season and b) needs to sell players to make budget/buy more players. Mmmkay.
Yes I would rather have an experienced leader and no-nonsense defender with a few years left in him, than a young-ish Championship defender that some on here make out to be some kind of huge talent and/or saviour. There's nothing wrong with Dunk, but there wouldn't be with Burn either if he played for any other Championship team (as seen during his time with a struggling Birmingham team).
And as for not ready for promotion, what do you even mean by that? We have three years of parachute payments, after that we'll be less and less ready for every year that passes. And let's not kid ourselves that Kit is putting out a lineup full of youngsters each week that just needs a year or two to be ready, because he doesn't.
I mean the current roster is nowhere near promotion-caliber for this season, and even if the club splashes cash on Dunk and someone like Gayle and maybe even a winger, we still have Kit, who's nowhere near promotion-caliber for this season.
Understanding the financial noose will start to tighten beyond that, that's part of why you a) build a financially sustainable model/roster and b) why you pay for players like Dunk who likely have significant re-sale value. The fact that parachute payments will be decreasing and then vanishing as we go forward (if we don't get back up) is *exactly* why you spend the money now to get as many assets with significant re-sale value as possible before we don't have the money anymore.
Apparently we have gone back for Tarkowski. At least according to TalkSport. 5m offer.
So either the Dunk saga is turning sour and we want an option/bargaining chip. Or we are in for both (we can always dream).
The problem with both your arguments (which I agree with in the bigger picture, but not in this case) are that you don't buy a centre half in the Championship for £5m to make a profit. The only way you're going to make a profit of such a deal is if you get promoted and the player proves to be a Premier League quality player. Otherwise you end up with a Matt Mills, which is way more costly than buying an experienced Premier League defender for a way cheaper transfer fee and higher wages but on shorter terms. And that's the thing, both of you just assume that 1 year older = a better player with higher market value, when that's far from the reality for most players.
The way to make a profit is to buy cheap and sell expensive (Roberts, Smalling). Not to buy at top rate in the market you're in (McCormack, Dunk).
And as for Kit, I'm definitely not sold on him either, but that doesn't mean we should just give up and not even have a go.
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
don't think work permit will be an issue. he is american and he has worked here for a few years already. my theory is we are closing in on a second player, club wants to annouce both transfers at the same time.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
It's to be expected when you involve any government department, Ream's probably been sat with a ticket in the queue outside Borough tube station for 36 hours.
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Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
don't think work permit will be an issue. he is american and he has worked here for a few years already. my theory is we are closing in on a second player, club wants to annouce both transfers at the same time.
That was mine util i read that the rules had changed, i would assume all ok, but you never know.
I would also agree we want a second CB and that is why the rumours about Dunk and Tarkowski are still coming around
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 19, 2015, 09:11:44 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
It's to be expected when you involve any government department, Ream's probably been sat with a ticket in the queue outside Borough tube station for 36 hours.
That and we have probably put a wrong date on a form and hes joining us in 2016
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Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 19, 2015, 09:11:44 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
It's to be expected when you involve any government department, Ream's probably been sat with a ticket in the queue outside Borough tube station for 36 hours.
That and we have probably put a wrong date on a form and hes joining us in 2016
Ah, like Jason Koumas then
Still don't understand why we haven't gone back in for Michael Turner he is a solid pro will organise the defence & with a better midfield this year I think he will do well
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 19, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
Still don't understand why we haven't gone back in for Michael Turner he is a solid pro will organise the defence & with a better midfield this year I think he will do well
Agreed. He's not even making the bench for Norwich. Surely it makes sense to even just get him in on loan?? Dunk/Ream play on the left-side, Turner prefers the right - so it's not like he'd displace either of them (should anyone actually sign...).
I believe the issue with Michael Turner, who did a good job for us, is wages - still on a Premiership package. If Ream coming is a 'given' then one of Dunk or Tarkowski appears the most likely scenario. However, there must be issues with a deal for the former, - he was in yesterday's Brighton squad.
Fully agree that a pacey winger would be advantageous - Will Buckley from Sunderland was mentioned some weeks ago; a proper winger who can play on either flank & take on full-backs with pace + he can put in dangerous crosses. Right up Matt Smith's street? I should say so - who knows?
personally i think we will make 3 signings and a couple of loans possibly, obviously some will be leaving on loan or permanently.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 19, 2015, 08:30:30 AM
Apparently we have gone back for Tarkowski. At least according to TalkSport. 5m offer.
So either the Dunk saga is turning sour and we want an option/bargaining chip. Or we are in for both (we can always dream).
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
Fulham after Arsenal youngster on loan http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/? (http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/?)
Quote from: f321ffc on August 19, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
That is disappointing
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 19, 2015, 11:58:51 AM
Fulham after Arsenal youngster on loan http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/? (http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/?)
so we didn't play our 18 year old last season and he buggers off to city but we will play Arsenals
Quote from: Nero on August 19, 2015, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 19, 2015, 11:58:51 AM
Fulham after Arsenal youngster on loan http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/? (http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/?)
so we didn't play our 18 year old last season and he buggers off to city but we will play Arsenals
If true then I give up...
Quote from: Ordar on August 19, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on August 19, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
That is disappointing
Did he? Cant find it on his Twitter?
We've had some ridiculous long drawn out transfer sagas over the years but this takes the biscuit.
Stearman, then Dunk, Lees then Tarkowski then Dunk again then Tarkowski then Dunk etc etc etc.
Getting boring now
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 19, 2015, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: Ordar on August 19, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on August 19, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
That is disappointing
Did he? Cant find it on his Twitter?
We've had some ridiculous long drawn out transfer sagas over the years but this takes the biscuit.
Stearman, then Dunk, Lees then Tarkowski then Dunk again then Tarkowski then Dunk etc etc etc.
Getting boring now
It wasnt the chairman himself but the CEO, @markdevlin7
What could this mean for Dunk?
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Brighton set to sign Shrewsbury Town defender Connor Goldson. #BHAFC #Shrewsbury
Connor Goldson is a 22 year old centre back ... could be interesting!
Quote from: Bracken White on August 19, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
Connor Goldson is a 22 year old centre back ... could be interesting!
can we sign him instead before we end up with Richard Dunne
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
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Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
With the way Lennon was talking last night the deal is obviously done. Its now just a waiting game for the admin to be sorted!!
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Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
All quiet on the Gayle front.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Your "I'm not replying to your comments any more" quote the other day really lasted long didn't it? You really are a drama queen Wimbledon_Wally, sod off back over to CC.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
I've actually been critical of a lot of what Fulham have done so far this window, but UK government procedures, surprisingly, I haven't blamed the club for.
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
I've actually been critical of a lot of what Fulham have done so far this window, but UK government procedures, surprisingly, I haven't blamed the club for.
I didn't slag off the Club, if you can find that anywhere in my quotes, then please highlight it for everyone to see, because I'm really puzzled.
My quotes of "You couldn't make this up" were in connection to the ongoing saga of sorting out our defensive issues, not the UK government procedure.
Like it or not, we're 3 games into what was supposed to have been a positive start to season, and we're still dicking around brining in senior CB's, which should have been sorted weeks/months ago.
Just admit it, you jumped down my throat for no cause.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:31:51 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
I've actually been critical of a lot of what Fulham have done so far this window, but UK government procedures, surprisingly, I haven't blamed the club for.
I didn't slag off the Club, if you can find that anywhere in my quotes, then please highlight it for everyone to see, because I'm really puzzled.
My quotes of "You couldn't make this up" were in connection to the ongoing saga of sorting out our defensive issues, not the UK government procedure.
Like it or not, we're 3 games into what was supposed to have been a positive start to season, and we're still dicking around brining in senior CB's, which should have been sorted weeks/months ago.
Just admit it, you jumped down my throat for no cause.
How can those two statements be consistent?
13 days that determines whether this was a good window or not. I envisage alot of disappointed posters.
My predictions: Dembele and Hyndman will go. LVC might go. We will sign Ream and some loans.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Your "I'm not replying to your comments any more" quote the other day really lasted long didn't it? You really are a drama queen Wimbledon_Wally, sod off back over to CC.
I haven't been on CC for months. I left because of abusive people like you.
It's a shame that the Mods are allowing certain aspects of this forum go that way too nowadays.
I blame Kit and Khan, they get blamed for everything else so may as well continue with it.
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:19:42 PM
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Your "I'm not replying to your comments any more" quote the other day really lasted long didn't it? You really are a drama queen Wimbledon_Wally, sod off back over to CC.
I haven't been on CC for months. I left because of abusive people like you.
It's a shame that the Mods are allowing certain aspects of this forum go that way too nowadays.
I blame Kit and Khan, they get blamed for everything else so may as well continue with it.
Ironically we get slated for removing potential dramas late at night with all the issues yesterday and we also get slated for not dealing with every abusive post too when we miss them. Can you not see how impossible a moderators task is?
We tried sorting this the other day so either agree to disagree and move on or ignore each other. Not many more options after that. Let maturity shine through here please guys. I know it's the silly thread but I don't think it was to be taken literally.
Let's keep it for transfers and if you need me you know how to message me
Understood DannyBoi.
Thanks. Ben
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
@BrianSciaretta: I am told Tim Ream's transfer to Fulham should be completed today #USMNT
Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 19, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
Seems pretty clear that Dunk is headed for the exit, my only concern is that he'll go somewhere other than here...
Fingers crossed he'll be starting for us at the weekend.
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 19, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
Seems pretty clear that Dunk is headed for the exit, my only concern is that he'll go somewhere other than here...
Fingers crossed he'll be starting for us at the weekend.
what, and bypass our statutory 2 week medical followed by the extra days wait to sign the paper work
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:08:15 PM
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
he can keep garbutt company when he tears his hammy after 12 mins.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:08:15 PM
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
he can keep garbutt company when he tears his hammy after 12 mins.
Hah yes, but they can back each other up when one gets injured. One in one out.
I'd welcome KR back - would be good in this league
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:08:15 PM
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
he can keep garbutt company when he tears his hammy after 12 mins.
Now, now thats harsh!!!
It was always his calf.
lets get the brentford player in...
Yeah Richardson really was the ultimate sick-note for us. Such a shame as he was/is a talented player.
I agree, if fit, he'd be a decent player in this league.
Big Phil Senderos anyone?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
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Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
It's not exactly unusual for deals to be completed in the last few days or even hours of the transfer window. We don't know the full story behind any of our transfer targets, but I don't think you can blame Fulham for not sorting out "these defensive issues" weeks or months ago. If the selling club isn't willing to complete the deal until the last possible moment in case another club comes in with a better offer, how can you expect Fulham to get permission to transfer his visa over to them until the deal is actually done?
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 02:41:39 PM
Yeah Richardson really was the ultimate sick-note for us. Such a shame as he was/is a talented player.
I agree, if fit, he'd be a decent player in this league.
Big Phil Senderos anyone?
Yes for me (I am biased). Like Kasami you cannot fault his commitment. Still has the odd mistake in him, but probably good enough for the Championship.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 19, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
Seems pretty clear that Dunk is headed for the exit, my only concern is that he'll go somewhere other than here...
Fingers crossed he'll be starting for us at the weekend.
Probably the ha has after we stole Ream - Now that would really hurt!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 19, 2015, 01:49:29 PM
Don't forget Mackintosh, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with anything either.
Stop it, these short quips are in danger of making me laugh. I come on this forum to feed my depression.
http://www.football-insider.co.uk/news/tim-ream-fulham-transfer-agreed (http://www.football-insider.co.uk/news/tim-ream-fulham-transfer-agreed)
The centre-back, 27, has arrived at the Championship club's Motspur Park headquarters for a medical and Ream's Fulham transfer should be completed in the next 24 hours.
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
I feel like he's been "24 hours from" signing for about a week now
And don't get me started on Dunk...
Just seen this on the Brighton forum, thought there might be some news
"Lewis Dunk latest
The fact we could be buying Conor Goldson suggests that we could be selling Dunk what do you guys think "
No s111t Sherlock fp.gif
Quote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
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Quote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
As did Taggert...Garbett...
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Quote from: grandad on August 19, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
As did Taggert...Garbett...
Those 2 were fit when they came here. I think Johnson may have been but Mitro was crocked.
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Quote from: grandad on August 19, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
As did Taggert...Garbett...
Those 2 were fit when they came here. I think Johnson may have been but Mitro was crocked.
Oh I thought you were just messing around hah.
I was just talking to a friend who told me someone he knows who works at the Brighton training ground has said Dunk's coming to us. But that may have been before Saturday's game!
Brighton signed another CB yesterday, surly Dunk is off but is he coming here?.
Quote from: Shredhead on August 19, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
I was just talking to a friend who told me someone he knows who works at the Brighton training ground has said Dunk's coming to us. But that may have been before Saturday's game!
Quote from: Shredhead on August 19, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
I was just talking to a friend who told me someone he knows who works at the Brighton training ground has said Dunk's coming to us. But that may have been before Saturday's game!
According to yesterday's Argus newspaper Brighton have rejected Fulham's £5 million new offer for Dunk but could be fighting a losing battle to keep hold of him in the face of persistent interest from Fulham and possibly Newcastle
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
From day 1 I've asked this, still have no idea. There is little cash to be made by an owner outside the PL so why anyone who isn't a fan of football or the club buys a team without the intent to take it to another level (which usually involves spending) in my eyes is viewed as suspicious.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Recent transfer activity would suggest that 110% accurate!
So he lied when he said he'd do "whatever it takes" to get us promoted.
How would "Gazza" know this?110% unsubstantiated Khan bashing.
Several good players have been added- another 10 1/2 days of patience required?
Quote from: The Rock on August 20, 2015, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Recent transfer activity would suggest that 110% accurate!
I'd wait till the end of the transfer window before commenting.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Why do you think Mike "Creative" Rigg was employed? To help aid all transfers and spend as little money as possible. In his interview with Kit and Ali Mac, he openly said that the Club was looking to be "creative" and bring in players that are "right" for FFC. In other words, as cheap as possible.
From that moment on, I then knew that Mr Khan had NO interest in investing that heavily in FFC, bit only enough to keep us afloat.
Like many others on here, I really want to know what his true intentions are.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Why do you think Mike "Creative" Rigg was employed? To help aid all transfers and spend as little money as possible. In his interview with Kit and Ali Mac, he openly said that the Club was looking to be "creative" and bring in players that are "right" for FFC. In other words, as cheap as possible.
From that moment on, I then knew that Mr Khan had NO interest in investing that heavily in FFC, bit only enough to keep us afloat.
Like many others on here, I really want to know what his true intentions are.
Why bother employ Rigg though? Why would Rigg take the job (apart form the quadrupling of his wages) ?
We are stagnating.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Why do you think Mike "Creative" Rigg was employed? To help aid all transfers and spend as little money as possible. In his interview with Kit and Ali Mac, he openly said that the Club was looking to be "creative" and bring in players that are "right" for FFC. In other words, as cheap as possible.
From that moment on, I then knew that Mr Khan had NO interest in investing that heavily in FFC, bit only enough to keep us afloat.
Like many others on here, I really want to know what his true intentions are.
Why bother employ Rigg though? Why would Rigg take the job (apart form the quadrupling of his wages) ?
We are stagnating.
So for augments sake, if Rigg is say on 100K a year, plus a bonus for being "creative" in the transfer market, thus saving Khan 10 million quid, he's going to take the job. Not saying it's like that, but football is a business these day.
I see it as the owner, manager, Rigg, Mac etc, being deluded enough to actually think they can get Fulham up on a budget (rolled in a with a few statistics here and there).
For a start, they kept hold of the wrong manager to attempt this.
vydra to forest on loan is shown on sky sports as a rumour
Quote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
vydra to forest on loan is shown on sky sports as a rumour
Would be a good signing for Forest (or any team in this league). Guess Watford aren't convinced he can cut it at the top level...
Ream
https://mobile.twitter.com/RememberThe33/status/634341515003863040/photos
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Sky saying Gray has turned down Bristol City and Hull are now favourites to sign him
Quote from: f321ffc on August 20, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Ream
https://mobile.twitter.com/RememberThe33/status/634341515003863040/photos
Losing the will to live over our transfers.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 20, 2015, 12:58:07 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
vydra to forest on loan is shown on sky sports as a rumour
Would be a good signing for Forest (or any team in this league). Guess Watford aren't convinced he can cut it at the top level...
didn't they just sign him on a permanent?
Shock horror. Andre gray turns down bristol city
Quote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 03:35:26 PM
Shock horror. Andre gray turns down bristol city
Honestly, what did they expect? City are acting like this is Football Manager.
I would have been surprised if he had gone there, Cotterill took Gayles rejection personally or that's how it came across when he was asked in a press conference about it, wonder how he will take this one
Quote from: spikey norman on August 20, 2015, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Sky saying Gray has turned down Bristol City and Hull are now favourites to sign him
At least there will be one worst team than us this season, we just need to find another 2 now.
I just don´t like this Khan bashing. How many times do some have to be reminded that we have FFP restrictions. Even if Khan wanted to spend £200 million on players he would not, under the rules, avoid the club being heavily fined & have an embargo on future transfers.
The days of MAF are no longer with us. We are only allowed to post losses of £13 million.
Read all the great articles by MJG. You will then understand a bit better.
The only other option is to do what Boro are doing & go for broke. I would not want my club to go this way. If Boro miss out they will be in big trouble.
I agree grandad but if the rumour is true and QPR are only going to get an 8 million fine for being 60 odd million over then it actually doesn't put you off going over.
But as I say I agree with you, we should not go down this route, at least until FFP has been clarified by the league after the QPR judgement is official.
Breaking FFP gets you a slap on the wrist, not worth playing by the rules in that case.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
I agree grandad but if the rumour is true and QPR are only going to get an 8 million fine for being 60 odd million over then it actually doesn't put you off going over.
But as I say I agree with you, we should not go down this route, at least until FFP has been clarified by the league after the QPR judgement is official.
do we know how close we are to balancing the books though?
Quote from: grandad on August 20, 2015, 04:47:18 PM
I just don´t like this Khan bashing. How many times do some have to be reminded that we have FFP restrictions. Even if Khan wanted to spend £200 million on players he would not, under the rules, avoid the club being heavily fined & have an embargo on future transfers.
The days of MAF are no longer with us. We are only allowed to post losses of £13 million.
Read all the great articles by MJG. You will then understand a bit better.
The only other option is to do what Boro are doing & go for broke. I would not want my club to go this way. If Boro miss out they will be in big trouble.
On that subject read about how deep Bolton are in it here http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/8/19/9175719/wanderers-debt-and-new-owner-hunt-revealed
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Quote from: Chutney on August 20, 2015, 04:53:15 PM
Breaking FFP gets you a slap on the wrist, not worth playing by the rules in that case.
Tell that to Blackburn and Forest
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If QPR only get 8m then they should scrap FFP. Its a ridiculously small fine in the grand scheme of things, especially if the spending gets you promoted.
I don't think FFP will survive anyway. The rich teams will eventually just break off into a "super league" and it would be too financially damaging for the leagues for that to happen.
Doesn't FFP breach European fair trade laws and employment laws anyway?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: spikey norman on August 20, 2015, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Sky saying Gray has turned down Bristol City and Hull are now favourites to sign him
At least there will be one worst team than us this season, we just need to find another 2 now.
Lol. You sound like you've been coached by Kit.
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
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I just don´t like this Khan bashing. How many times do some have to be reminded that we have FFP restrictions. Even if Khan wanted to spend £200 million on players he would not, under the rules, avoid the club being heavily fined & have an embargo on future transfers.
The days of MAF are no longer with us. We are only allowed to post losses of £13 million.
Read all the great articles by MJG. You will then understand a bit better.
The only other option is to do what Boro are doing & go for broke. I would not want my club to go this way. If Boro miss out they will be in big trouble.
On that subject read about how deep Bolton are in it here http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/8/19/9175719/wanderers-debt-and-new-owner-hunt-revealed (http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/8/19/9175719/wanderers-debt-and-new-owner-hunt-revealed)
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Very interesting read, it shows how lucky we are with Mr Khan in charge and his prudent financial control.
OK, can someone who knows FFP tell me this.
If we do break the rules and remain in this league. Do we get a fine or a transfer embargo?
And if it is the latter, is this because the rules have changed since QPR...sorry qpr broke the rules?
Khan owns two major(ish) sporting clubs and has had one for over three full seasons and the other for over two.
Question: has any owner of one or more broadly comparable club for an aggregate of at least five years ever been so wholly unsuccessful in terms of percentage of games won? Financial prudence is important but so is achievement on the field.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/20/ream (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/20/ream)
Whites Sign Ream
Thursday 20 August 2015 17:00
The Club is delighted to confirm the signing of Tim Ream from Bolton Wanderers on a four-year deal for an undisclosed fee.
Having now obtained a work permit, the 27-year-old joins the Whites until 2019, with a Club option to 2020.
"I'm more than pleased to be here," Ream told the official website. "It's been a long tome coming now, over the past week and a half it's gone back and forth so I'm glad its finally sorted.
"The biggest thing was the history, walking into the training ground and feeling the vibe around the Cub and the success that previous American players have had here."
After playing for Chicago Fire Premier during his college years, Ream joined New York Red Bulls in 2010 and was ever-present in his debut season as they secured the Eastern Conference title. He was subsequently shortlisted for the MLS Rookie of the Year award, but lost out to Andy Najar.
In January 2012, Ream moved to Bolton to replace Gary Cahill who had just joined Chelsea, and went on to make 13 Barclays Premier League appearances in the second half of the campaign. He leaves Wanderers having featured 126 times for the club, and the last two years saw him voted Player of the Season by their supporters.
Ream made his first appearance for the United States in a 1-0 win over South Africa in November 2010, and now has 13 caps for the national side.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 20, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
OK, can someone who knows FFP tell me this.
If we do break the rules and remain in this league. Do we get a fine or a transfer embargo?
And if it is the latter, is this because the rules have changed since QPR...sorry qpr broke the rules?
If you get promoted then its a fine, if you stay down and break the rules its a transfer embargo with rules attached to that.
And no it did not change after QPR went up, that's why they can sign players.
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Quote from: Oakeshott on August 20, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Khan owns two major(ish) sporting clubs and has had one for over three full seasons and the other for over two.
Question: has any owner of one or more broadly comparable club for an aggregate of at least five years ever been so wholly unsuccessful in terms of percentage of games won? Financial prudence is important but so is achievement on the field.
Joan Whitney Payson was founder/owner of the New York Mets when they started in the National League in 1962. They finished last with a record number of losses. For the next six seasons they finished last, last, last, 2nd from last, last and 2nd from last. In 1969 the 'Miracle' Mets won the World Series.
Hang on in there. (Although it is handy when there's no relegation.)
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Quote from: Oakeshott on August 20, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Khan owns two major(ish) sporting clubs and has had one for over three full seasons and the other for over two.
Question: has any owner of one or more broadly comparable club for an aggregate of at least five years ever been so wholly unsuccessful in terms of percentage of games won? Financial prudence is important but so is achievement on the field.
Joan Whitney Payson was founder/owner of the New York Mets when they started in the National League in 1962. They finished last with a record number of losses. For the next six seasons they finished last, last, last, 2nd from last, last and 2nd from last. In 1969 the 'Miracle' Mets won the World Series.
Hang on in there. (Although it is handy when there's no relegation.)
probably helps that they get the choice of the best young talent every year through the draft too
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
there's a whole thread on it, might have slipped to page two
Brighton in for Gayle and have heald talks by all accounts
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
there's a whole thread on it, might have slipped to page two
Oh thanks. I will have a search for it.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 08:01:38 PM
Brighton in for Gayle and have heald talks by all accounts
Gayle is fast turning into the new tom ince
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Why would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 20, 2015, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Why would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.
someone spotted on tiff that in the Ream interview, Ream himself suggests that some more money might be spent
Quote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 20, 2015, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Why would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.
someone spotted on tiff that in the Ream interview, Ream himself suggests that some more money might be spent
I do not want to rain on the parade, but Ream's comments are open to interpretation - he could be referring to the window as a whole. You might imagine too that during the signing process he would have been told about all the players to whom we are talking.
As to relying on a Khan quote, well, need I say more?
Of course, like everyone else, I will be F5'ing; but more in hope than expectation.
Andre Gray is having medical at Burnley
Nottingham Forest, Fulham and Bolton all chasing Crystal Palace winger Sullay Kaikai on loan. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/21/forest-fulham-and-bolton-eye-palaces-kaikai/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/21/forest-fulham-and-bolton-eye-palaces-kaikai/)
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 21, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
Nottingham Forest, Fulham and Bolton all chasing Crystal Palace winger Sullay Kaikai on loan. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/21/forest-fulham-and-bolton-eye-palaces-kaikai/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/21/forest-fulham-and-bolton-eye-palaces-kaikai/)
Spent last season on loan in league 2. Would prefer to give George Williams the chance when he's fully back form injury.
Maloney to hull apparently
Quote from: westcliff white on August 21, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
Maloney to hull apparently
That's handy, Bruce has just said he's about to get an attacker deal over the line.
Means we can hold out hope for Gayle, somewhat forlorn though one suspects.
Quote from: Barry@ENF on August 20, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 20, 2015, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Why would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.
someone spotted on tiff that in the Ream interview, Ream himself suggests that some more money might be spent
I do not want to rain on the parade, but Ream's comments are open to interpretation - he could be referring to the window as a whole. You might imagine too that during the signing process he would have been told about all the players to whom we are talking.
As to relying on a Khan quote, well, need I say more?
Of course, like everyone else, I will be F5'ing; but more in hope than expectation.
Yep that was my worry too. It could refer to the players already signed but I read it as more to come. Sincerely hope so, he does sound like Rigg may have told him that Fulham looking to spend big and as you say that Tony Khan snippet might be nothing but im hoping it gives weight to that.
Eisfeld gone to Bochum. official.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/21/eisfeld-seals-bochum-switch (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/21/eisfeld-seals-bochum-switch)
Eisfeld Seals Bochum Switch
Fulham can confirm that midfielder Thomas Eisfield has sealed a permanent switch to German side Vfl Bochum.
A 2014 summer signing from Arsenal, Eisfeld made seven appearances for the Whites last term before joining Bochum on loan for the remainder of the campaign in February. The German now returns to Bochum, who currently top 2. Bundesliga, on a permanent basis.
Everyone at Fulham would like to wish Thomas all the best for his future career
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 21, 2015, 01:06:06 PM
Eisfeld gone to Bochum. official.
And he got more of a send off than Ruiz did, despite only being at the club for half a season or so.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 21, 2015, 01:06:06 PM
Eisfeld gone to Bochum. official.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/21/eisfeld-seals-bochum-switch (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/21/eisfeld-seals-bochum-switch)
Eisfeld Seals Bochum Switch
Fulham can confirm that midfielder Thomas Eisfield has sealed a permanent switch to German side Vfl Bochum.
A 2014 summer signing from Arsenal, Eisfeld made seven appearances for the Whites last term before joining Bochum on loan for the remainder of the campaign in February. The German now returns to Bochum, who currently top 2. Bundesliga, on a permanent basis.
Everyone at Fulham would like to wish Thomas all the best for his future career
nice message by the club. good luck to him. didn't make the grade here and now frees up some wage costs.
Bournemouth stepping up interest in Gayle. Gossip
they have signed a fair few forward players haven't they?
Bournemouth have bid for palaces Murray. So maybe nothing in the Gayle rumour. That said what are the odds of them selling both. Would of thought it would be one or the other
Just checking shirt numbers
Ream has been given 13
Go of the 11 - 5 and 7 have not been allocated yet .......
Quote from: Riverside on August 21, 2015, 03:03:04 PM
Just checking shirt numbers
Ream has been given 13
Go of the 11 - 5 and 7 have not been allocated yet .......
5 is probably being saved until we know if amorebieta stays
He didn't have 5 before I don't think.
When ever I watch sky sports transfer centre they never say we are linked to Dunk, they normally get most of these things right
Quote from: westcliff white on August 21, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
He didn't have 5 before I don't think.
I guess he had the number 35.
Newcastle is interested in Abdenour from Monaco is they can unload Williamson (Sky). So they might not be in for Dunk after all.
Steve McClaren says Newcastle unlikely to make anymore signings
dunk, a pacey striker and a new manager will be good
"dunk, a pacey striker and a new manager will be good"
Agreed. My priority would be manager first, then striker, then Dunk. (A good manager will be able to blend Ream and either Burn or Hutchinson into a decent partnership.)
Quote from: Oakeshott on August 21, 2015, 06:18:46 PM
"dunk, a pacey striker and a new manager will be good"
Agreed. My priority would be manager first, then striker, then Dunk. (A good manager will be able to blend Ream and either Burn or Hutchinson into a decent partnership.)
i have a feeling ream will be a left back for us and not a centre back
plus i think hutchinson is good enough and needs a better partner in dunk
Garbutt will be left back when fit, for me Ream is signed as a centre back
Cardiff goalkeeper set to join on season long loan...dependant on severity of Betts injury
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-stars-joe-lewis-9906879? (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-stars-joe-lewis-9906879?)
Fulham should pay the money for Dunk get him in then bring Joe Lewis & Gary Hooper in on season loans then our squad is in a much better place
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Quote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Bit like buying a car, you make an offer seller turns it down make another seller turns it down and so on until a handshake on the price.
Brighton have bought at least 2 maybe 3 central defenders this window so I think they are resigned to losing Dunk but are intent on pulling our trousers down on this deal, I haven't seen a long list of clubs after Dunk so maybe time to say ok keep him and see what their reaction is , as I said bit like buying a car go to walk away and suddenly a realistic price is mentioned, just a thought.
for what Brighton are wanting for Dunk we could probably go and pay for a Premier League defender,
Quote from: Nero on August 22, 2015, 08:22:46 AM
for what Brighton are wanting for Dunk we could probably go and pay for a Premier League defender,
:plus one:
I wonder if at any time Brighton have been asked how much they want for Dunk. We then choose to either pay it or stick 2 fingers up.
Absolutely agree. If we are to pay £5m plus for a CB then let's move on to new options.
Agreed we need yet more options . How much would Jonny Evans cost ? ( sadly even if we could pay the transfer his wages would be a problem )
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Quote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 08:13:31 AM
Quote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Bit like buying a car, you make an offer seller turns it down make another seller turns it down and so on until a handshake on the price.
Brighton have bought at least 2 maybe 3 central defenders this window so I think they are resigned to losing Dunk but are intent on pulling our trousers down on this deal, I haven't seen a long list of clubs after Dunk so maybe time to say ok keep him and see what their reaction is , as I said bit like buying a car go to walk away and suddenly a realistic price is mentioned, just a thought.
Very well put, having been in the motor trade, I bet a lot of posters on hear don't see it that way. We don't know the finer details of the deal being offered or what's going on with Fulhams deals and it would be very Fulhamish for us to sign someone who has not been on the supporters radar. The next 10 days are going to be a very interesting with me and many supporters checking the web site every 15 minutes, just like kids at Christmas!!
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Quote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Bit like buying a car, you make an offer seller turns it down make another seller turns it down and so on until a handshake on the price.
Brighton have bought at least 2 maybe 3 central defenders this window so I think they are resigned to losing Dunk but are intent on pulling our trousers down on this deal, I haven't seen a long list of clubs after Dunk so maybe time to say ok keep him and see what their reaction is , as I said bit like buying a car go to walk away and suddenly a realistic price is mentioned, just a thought.
Very well put, having been in the motor trade, I bet a lot of posters on hear don't see it that way. We don't know the finer details of the deal being offered or what's going on with Fulhams deals and it would be very Fulhamish for us to sign someone who has not been on the supporters radar. The next 10 days are going to be a very interesting with me and many supporters checking the web site every 15 minutes, just like kids at Christmas!!
Aye. But, to continue the Motor Trade analogy, there's a big difference between strolling on to the forecourt casually remarking, 'I'm thinking I might trade up on my existing model. Got anything really tempting at a decent price?' and rushing into the showroom with holes in the soles of your shoes panting, 'My old car's knackered, I desperately need a new one, I've got a bunch of cash from selling off an experimental model I built myself and I've always wanted that new one you've just put in the window that everyone is after. How much?'
Dunk on the bench again.
18:03
FULHAM CLOSE IN ON LEWIS
Fulham are close to completing a short-term loan deal for Cardiff City goalkeeper Joe Lewis, according to Sky sources.
The Whites need cover for injured first-choice keeper Marcus Bettinelli, who is expected to undergo surgery on a knee-ligament injury and remain sidelined for a number of months. Lewis is Cardiff's third-choice keeper behind David Marshall and Simon Moore, and the 27-year-old is keen to go out and play regular first-team games.
After his side drew 1-1 at home to Huddersfield on Saturday, Fulham boss Kit Symons admitted the club had identified their target and were close to completing the deal.
Symons said: "We are looking to bring in a goalkeeper on a short-term loan deal. I have decided who that is and it is close to happening, so that will be a bit of good news. Marcus has damaged two ligaments – his MCL and PCL – and we are still waiting on surgeon advice on what the procedure is going to be. But he is going to be out for a good few months no matter what."
So that Lewis is the deal we are close to..happy days.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/22/brighton-fine-fulham-linked-lewis-dunk-for-missing-cup-clash-wit/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/22/brighton-fine-fulham-linked-lewis-dunk-for-missing-cup-clash-wit/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Will we ever sign him?
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13621344.Albion_fine_Dunk_for_refusing_to_play_in_cup_tie/ (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13621344.Albion_fine_Dunk_for_refusing_to_play_in_cup_tie/)
Quote from: f321ffc on August 24, 2015, 08:45:24 AM
Will we ever sign him?
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13621344.Albion_fine_Dunk_for_refusing_to_play_in_cup_tie/ (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13621344.Albion_fine_Dunk_for_refusing_to_play_in_cup_tie/)
If he is good enough to improve our team, then probably not. He might have a less effective eastern European cousin that we might sign... Thats way more likely
Gayle played for Palace on Saturday, not sure if that's a great sign for us.
and Pardew said afterwards he cannot guarantee Gayle the playing time he wants so it looks likely he will move on.
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any.
Who are they?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
Quote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 24, 2015, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
But have we signed the "right" kind of players? Yes, they have championship experience, but Kit is or was known to play narrow last season. No wingers have been bought. We have been a bit unlucky with defensive injuries, but four games in and our defense is still not situated. Also, we don't have a penetrating striker either. All I'm saying is it seems like we are limiting out scope of players to sign by not looking elsewhere.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
But have we signed the "right" kind of players? Yes, they have championship experience, but Kit is or was known to play narrow last season. No wingers have been bought. We have been a bit unlucky with defensive injuries, but four games in and our defense is still not situated. Also, we don't have a penetrating striker either. All I'm saying is it seems like we are limiting out scope of players to sign by not looking elsewhere.
Pringle is a winger!
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Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 24, 2015, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
But have we signed the "right" kind of players? Yes, they have championship experience, but Kit is or was known to play narrow last season. No wingers have been bought. We have been a bit unlucky with defensive injuries, but four games in and our defense is still not situated. Also, we don't have a penetrating striker either. All I'm saying is it seems like we are limiting out scope of players to sign by not looking elsewhere.
Pringle is a winger!
Sorry, Pringle is not a natural winger. He's a wide play that likes to cut in, not someone who like to beat his man down the flanks. He doesn't have the pace for that.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/24/fulham-agree-loan-move-for-lewis/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/24/fulham-agree-loan-move-for-lewis/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Rangers cut Darren McGregor loose. Would he be worth a shout?
So as a squad we are not performing and have some glaring issues. Up top and at the back. However we have opted to take a washed up keeper on loan as cover and that is all. I can't quite understand what the board must be thinking
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Lewis: Good signing
Fulfills the duel function of a) providing an experienced (preferred adjective to 'washed-up') hand to sit on the bench while Jorenen goes out on loan.
b) providing something for those so inclined to moan about.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 24, 2015, 07:08:50 PM
So as a squad we are not performing and have some glaring issues. Up top and at the back. However we have opted to take a washed up keeper on loan as cover and that is all. I can't quite understand what the board must be thinking
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Maybe we're looking to sign players in those positions where the current club don't want to let them go? It's a hell of a lot easier to sign a club's third choice keeper as a back up than it is to sign a club's starter - especially if we're a direct rival.
DUNK SIGNS ON
Brighton & Hove Albion defender Lewis Dunk has committed his long-term future to the club, by signing a new five-year contract that will run until June 2020.
The 23-year-old, who has been linked with a move away from the club, says his future lies with the Championship outfit.
Dunk said: "I am absolutely delighted to commit my long-term future to the club. I know there has been a lot of speculation, but I have been with this club for a long time and genuinely had little desire to go anywhere else.
"The manager and club made it clear that they see me as an important part of the club's future, and seeing that desire to keep me here at the club made it an easy decision in the end."
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Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Maybe we're actually in for a right sided defender rather than overflowing the squad with left sided ones and shoehorning someone in on the right?
If we got Ream for a third of what Brighton wanted for Dunk and then get a good right sided player with the rest of that money then that's good business. If we do, that is.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Can you blame him, relegation scrap with kit or promotion shot with Brighton
That's an absolute disaster.
Honestly really thought this would go through. Brighton had even found a replacement for him...
Beyond gutted.
Can't see us getting anyone at CB now. Unlikely Brentford will let Tark go, given their injury situation. Lees signed an extension too...
Maybe see if Turner/Lascelles might be available??
What happened to our team to make Sheffield Wednesday and Brighton more appealing... We're in such a mess...
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
oh well... 094.gif
has anyone thought that maybe his agent courted us in order to get a better deal for his players
I think Dunk watched us play on Saturday
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Pretty embarrassing. Let's hope we have someone lined up and aren't left scrambling. Last couple of weeks have been terrible transfer-wise.
why is it embarrassing? that's football these things happen, happened to Man Utd with Pedro and its happened to us with Dunk, and will happen to a lot more clubs
Quote from: westcliff white on August 24, 2015, 09:00:16 PM
why is it embarrassing? that's football these things happen, happened to Man Utd with Pedro and its happened to us with Dunk, and will happen to a lot more clubs
and it was embarrassing for man u too.
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Quote from: westcliff white on August 24, 2015, 09:00:16 PM
why is it embarrassing? that's football these things happen, happened to Man Utd with Pedro and its happened to us with Dunk, and will happen to a lot more clubs
and it was embarrassing for man u too.
for me that's just football,, these things happen. teams are often played by agents to get better deals form their players present club or another club, that's just life
To be fair, who looks more likely to get promoted in the next two-three years, us or Brighton. Depressing what things have come to and how difficult it is for us to improve our CBs.
Whether we have been played or not by Dunk's agent, the fact remains that we need to upgrade our CBs asap. We all hope that the club knows that since a while and could have acted earlier in the summer instead of waiting the last week of the window and probably get mugged. I have lost count of the number of windows where we have acted very late. That might a management style where urgency and pressure get the best out of people, but this doesn't fill me with any confidence.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 24, 2015, 09:12:54 PM
To be fair, who looks more likely to get promoted in the next two-three years, us or Brighton. Depressing what things have come to and how difficult it is for us to improve our CBs.
It's not difficult, we obviously have a good chunk to buy one, but some twit decided that they have to be from the championship.
Maybe Dunk never wanted to come here...?
He would have handed in a transfer request if he really wanted out? Seems like he wanted to stay to me and its not like he went to QPR or something like that, he stayed with his own club.
I dont think that is embarrassing.
I think dunk was interested. Fact is they played hardball and we are so poo that actually they played the perfect game. Had roles reversed I think he would of come but we look like a team destined to struggle
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Quote from: horse1031 on August 24, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
Maybe Dunk never wanted to come here...?
He would have handed in a transfer request if he really wanted out? Seems like he wanted to stay to me and its not like he went to QPR or something like that, he stayed with his own club.
I dont think that is embarrassing.
we will never know because we wasted so much time going back and fourth with bids that never got excepted. The worst part is, we have had a shocking start to the season because we never addressed our defensive issues
However you look at it, we got played, and we're stupid enough to play right into Dunk / Brightons hands. He was prob interested, we waited to long, he monitored our poor start and though sod that. Surprise, surprise, egg on Fulhams face once again.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
We're we linked with him then. 093.gif
West Ham's James Collins appears to be available and might be a decent alternative to Dunk at this late stage in the window.
Quote from: spikey norman on August 24, 2015, 09:45:28 PM
West Ham's James Collins appears to be available and might be a decent alternative to Dunk at this late stage in the window.
Good shout!
Also note that Brede hasn't even warmed the sub's bench yet for Palace.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
His new wage package should cover the amount that they allegedly fined him then!
You couldn't make it up though - or could you?
Still, good news still to come before 6.00pm Tuesday 1/9/ - but who & how many?
So Brighton manage to.sign a good fit centre half and the centre half we where chasing in the time we have signed a unfit centre half. This club is going places I look forward.to hyndman leaving for 100k and us putting in a bid for some unfit bloke that had a good game against us last year for 50k he's crap but got that important championship experience cos he an it good enough to play at a higher level
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
Why are we ALWAYS coupled with QPR when we're supposedly interested in a player? Do we share the same scout??
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
Sadly you are probably right, the next six days could see us paying over the odds for a player who is no better than the ones we already have.
thats what i am worried about. this will be a good test of how well we are being run at the moment. hopefully the management would have planned for the potential of the dunk deal falling through, hopefully they would have had a plan B and C - lets see what happens.
Lescott is rumoured to be surplus at WBA. He's 33, so maybe he'd come to the championship?
http://talksport.com/football/west-brom-target-manchester-united-defender-jonny-evans-joleon-lescott-told-he-can-leave (http://talksport.com/football/west-brom-target-manchester-united-defender-jonny-evans-joleon-lescott-told-he-can-leave)
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Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
Sadly you are probably right, the next six days could see us paying over the odds for a player who is no better than the ones we already have.
thats what i am worried about. this will be a good test of how well we are being run at the moment. hopefully the management would have planned for the potential of the dunk deal falling through, hopefully they would have had a plan B and C - lets see what happens.
wasn't Tarkowski plan b and Ream c?
We have not be short of plans .
Dunk was A , Lees and Tarkowski B and C ( not sure which order ) , Ream D and now we are onto at least E .
One through the door I am sure another will arrive before the window closes .
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Collins and Turner would be great options IMO. Or Lascelles on loan.
Think they'd all be available too.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 25, 2015, 11:56:58 AM
Collins and Turner would be great options IMO. Or Lascelles on loan.
Think they'd all be available too.
Why we didn't keep Turner for another season is anyone's guess.
Considering it's only recently come out that he's surplus at Watford, he's not a "plan" anything. He's a, by all accounts, good player who's just come available.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 25, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 25, 2015, 11:56:58 AM
Collins and Turner would be great options IMO. Or Lascelles on loan.
Think they'd all be available too.
Why we didn't keep Turner for another season is anyone's guess.
I think we thought we could get younger/cheaper/quicker players in (Dunk, Tark, Lees, etc) but that hasn't panned out. Really hope we go back for him now. Unquestionably better than what we have.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 25, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
Lescott is rumoured to be surplus at WBA. He's 33, so maybe he'd come to the championship?
http://talksport.com/football/west-brom-target-manchester-united-defender-jonny-evans-joleon-lescott-told-he-can-leave (http://talksport.com/football/west-brom-target-manchester-united-defender-jonny-evans-joleon-lescott-told-he-can-leave)
On his way to villa!
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AM
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Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
Sadly you are probably right, the next six days could see us paying over the odds for a player who is no better than the ones we already have.
thats what i am worried about. this will be a good test of how well we are being run at the moment. hopefully the management would have planned for the potential of the dunk deal falling through, hopefully they would have had a plan B and C - lets see what happens.
the club may have plan A all the way through to Z, but it is no good if none of them want to come to Fulham
Celtic eyeing move for Amo according to ESPN
this is why Mike Rigg is on the staff... we have to trust that we will fill the holes by this weekend.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 25, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Celtic eyeing move for Amo according to ESPN
I'd give him a piggy back there if need be.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/championship-trio-join-chase-for-forest-target/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/championship-trio-join-chase-for-forest-target/)
What a quality signing Matej Vydra would be. Absolute class player
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/championship-trio-join-chase-for-forest-target/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/championship-trio-join-chase-for-forest-target/)
What a quality signing Matej Vydra would be. Absolute class player
Would be a great signing. And he is young. If we really are interested in him then I think we have a chance, as he wouldn't have to relocate.
The uncertainty around our manager is going to be a big hurdle for many prospective signings.
From the clubs side I do not think there is any uncertainty, they will give him till late November / Christmas.
Quote from: DeuceBigelow on August 25, 2015, 02:52:31 PM
The uncertainty around our manager is going to be a big hurdle for many prospective signings.
You're assuming that the club feel the same way that the supporters do. From the club's perspective, there may be no uncertainty.
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Since it seems most here would prefer seeing Cairney in central midfield (attacking, I presume), what would folks think about taking Deandre Yedlin on loan to play RW? He's definitely available. His speed would scare the bejesus out of most LB's. He's not a dribbler. He's more a kick it and run type with a decent cross that can pitch in for a few goals a season. He does have experience at RB would only be an emergency option there, for me. Curious to hear opinions.
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Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Nope. like everyone else on here I give my own opinion.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 25, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Celtic eyeing move for Amo according to ESPN
Straight swop for Virgil Van Dyjk 064.gif
Quote from: Nero on August 24, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
So Brighton manage to.sign a good fit centre half and the centre half we where chasing in the time we have signed a unfit centre half. This club is going places I look forward.to hyndman leaving for 100k and us putting in a bid for some unfit bloke that had a good game against us last year for 50k he's crap but got that important championship experience cos he an it good enough to play at a higher level
Why do you look forward to that scenario? I'd hate it.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 25, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Nope. like everyone else on here I give my own opinion.
This board used to be so friendly. Shame. Time for a break me thinks.
So many boards seem to be going on meltdown at the moment. Off in a few minutes to get to the match - looking forward to some positive football & a win.
Board need to look at it and it's still early doors and a few signings could change and we can push on or we don't and just settle for another season of shite
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When does the loan window close?
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Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 25, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Nope. like everyone else on here I give my own opinion.
This board used to be so friendly. Shame. Time for a break me thinks.
Toughen up a bit and stick around. :028:
@emmajonessport: On transfers. Asked Symons if #ffc still looking, with Dunk now staying at Brighton. Says still plan to strengthen in several positions.
Symons was also asked if he expected to bring any further signings to the Club, to which he responded: "I hope so. I'm very, very confident there will be more additions. We're looking at two or three – two at least, maybe three, that's what we're after."
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/25/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/25/manager-reaction)
Bloody hope so
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Quote from: mkras99 on August 25, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
Symons was also asked if he expected to bring any further signings to the Club, to which he responded: "I hope so. I'm very, very confident there will be more additions. We're looking at two or three – two at least, maybe three, that's what we're after."
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/25/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/25/manager-reaction)
Forestieri, Vydra and Angella. And I will be confident promotion will be ours.
Now that Stones has handed in a transfer request I assume they will want Garbutt back (when fit) and we need a new left back?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 26, 2015, 08:22:14 AM
Now that Stones has handed in a transfer request I assume they will want Garbutt back (when fit) and we need a new left back?
do they have recall clause?
usually they can be recalled during an open window (if a recall clause was put in the original loan deal), believe MJG said not the window they are loaned in, also Stone sis a centre back not a left back so not sure they will recall him. Everton have also enquired about Fazio from Spurs as a replacement for Stones, or that's the rumour going around.
Let's get yedlin in from Tottenham. Looking for a loan away
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I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
But RB's his natural position? Agree he could do a job at RM, but surely he'd be more helpful in his actual position, right?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 26, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
But RB's his natural position? Agree he could do a job at RM, but surely he'd be more helpful in his actual position, right?
Isn't he a RB in the same way Dani Alves is technically called a RB?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 26, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
But RB's his natural position? Agree he could do a job at RM, but surely he'd be more helpful in his actual position, right?
RB is where he was used with Seattle Sounders. I'm not saying he's a bad defender. However, he would meet more of our needs in attack and have a far more positive impact overall, I feel, as a RM. I think he'd relieve quite a bit of defensive pressure by being in midfield.
From what I've read from "in the know" reporting here in The US, pretty much all of the interest in Yedlin right now is as a RM/RW. No one is really looking at him for his defensive prowess.
apparently Jon Walters is available for a price, not sure what it is though
Fulham considering bid for Huddersfield Town striker
Sky Bet Championship outfit Fulham are considering making a move for Huddersfield Town striker James Vaughan, a club insider from Fulham has informed Football League World.
The 27-year-old joined Huddersfield Town on an initial loan spell in 2013, which was made permanent in 2013 in a £600,000 deal taking him to West Yorkshire from Norwich City.
However, Vaughan has had a career plagued with injury, and particularly over the last couple of years, he's been an infrequent player for the Terriers, who face a constant battle to keep him off the injury table.
The ex-Everton striker has now been told that he won't be offered a new contract when his deal expires at the end of the season, subsequently igniting interest from Kit Symons' Fulham.
If any side could keep Vaughan fit he'd be a terrific player, and will guarantee goals in the Championship, but it remains to be seen whether the striker will ever be able to get his form and consistency back.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-bid-for-huddersfield-town-striker/#8Qvt49O6xRk6UQEk.97 (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-bid-for-huddersfield-town-striker/#8Qvt49O6xRk6UQEk.97)
Don't understated how is gray for Birmingham has a 4.7m release clause why wouldn't we trigger it and then talk to him before a prem club did. Do we not learn of these things before. We have been calling for a winger.
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RE James Vaughan
"career plagued with injury and particularly over the last couple of years, he's been an infrequent player for the Terriers, who face a constant battle to keep him off the injury table.
The ex-Everton striker has now been told that he won't be offered a new contract when his deal expires at the end of the season, subsequently igniting interest from Kit Symons' Fulham."
Sounds just like the sort of player we seem to sign. 064.gif 090.gif 093.gif
An injury prone everton striker? where have i heard that before?
Please,please no more sick notes. Our physio squad is already more numerous than our playing staff.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 26, 2015, 07:54:52 PM
RE James Vaughan
"career plagued with injury and particularly over the last couple of years, he's been an infrequent player for the Terriers, who face a constant battle to keep him off the injury table.
The ex-Everton striker has now been told that he won't be offered a new contract when his deal expires at the end of the season, subsequently igniting interest from Kit Symons' Fulham."
Sounds just like the sort of player we seem to sign. 064.gif 090.gif 093.gif
Jesus Christ, no! Linked with some quality now a striker who can't get in Huddersfields side and he's always injured.
James vaughan is terrible, seen him play numerous times and he honestly so so bad.
They just made this up. "a club insider from Fulham has informed Football League World." Yeah right, Doris the tea lady is their source.
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
Demarai gray at 4.7mil would be a snip and should be our main target, imagine having an exciting pacey winger again.
Quote from: Chutney on August 26, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
Demarai gray at 4.7mil would be a snip and should be our main target, imagine having an exciting pacey winger again.
Before he signed his new deal I would have agreed, now they want around 8/9 million
Bosman has a lot to answer for.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: Chutney on August 26, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
Demarai gray at 4.7mil would be a snip and should be our main target, imagine having an exciting pacey winger again.
Before he signed his new deal I would have agreed, now they want around 8/9 million
Didn't realize he had a buy out clause of 4.7 million, if that is true then we should be looking a that if we want pace out wide
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:48:38 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
Not sure which of the 3 i mentioned you refer too or if your referring to Vaughn.
re the three I mentioned Gayle would be decent for me, although I reckon we are waiting till the end of the window and trying for a loan move (with an option to buy), Tarkowski I doubt we will go for and Collins is not too bad. I think this is the level we are at these days, attracting better name players seems to be quite hard probably due to the last two seasons. Gray would be an exception I do think if we match the alleged release clause we may have a chance there.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 07:36:42 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:48:38 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
Not sure which of the 3 i mentioned you refer too or if your referring to Vaughn.
re the three I mentioned Gayle would be decent for me, although I reckon we are waiting till the end of the window and trying for a loan move (with an option to buy), Tarkowski I doubt we will go for and Collins is not too bad. I think this is the level we are at these days, attracting better name players seems to be quite hard probably due to the last two seasons. Gray would be an exception I do think if we match the alleged release clause we may have a chance there.
i was referring to vaugh - the other 3 i would be happy with.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 07:40:17 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 07:36:42 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:48:38 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
Not sure which of the 3 i mentioned you refer too or if your referring to Vaughn.
re the three I mentioned Gayle would be decent for me, although I reckon we are waiting till the end of the window and trying for a loan move (with an option to buy), Tarkowski I doubt we will go for and Collins is not too bad. I think this is the level we are at these days, attracting better name players seems to be quite hard probably due to the last two seasons. Gray would be an exception I do think if we match the alleged release clause we may have a chance there.
i was referring to vaugh - the other 3 i would be happy with.
Cool, Vaughn is terrible
PALACE TO LET GAYLE GO ON THE CHEAP
With a week left in the transfer window Crystal Palace are well aware of their need to sell after a transfer market where they have spent a considerable amount.
Palace have signed Yohan Cabaye, Connor Wickham, Bakary Sako and Patrick Bamford this summer and have all produced large transfer fee's or wages for the Eagles to consider.
Now with Financial Fair Play rules in place the Londoners are well aware of their need to get players out of the club with Dwight Gayle a possible player to leave according to The Mirror.
Norwich City are an option to sign Gayle who have today had a £10 million bid for Benik Afobe rejected according to BBC, that being the third bid lodged by Alex Neil for the former Arsenal man as Kenny Jackett said last night the striker is not for sale.
Palace are now hoping that Lewis Grabban leaves for AFC Bournemouth, although Alex Neil said last night a deal for the forward was yet to be found between the clubs with the Canaries rejecting a third bid from Eddie Howe for the Cherries former forward.
Should Grabban leave Carrow Road as he has apparently asked that would leave Norwich looking for another striker and Palace are hoping that could see Gayle leave Selhurst Park. Alan Pardew is now considering allowing his striker to leave for a smaller fee than quoted earlier in the window in order to gain funds back from the signings he has already made.
http://transfernewscentral.com/2015/08/26/palace-let-gayle-go-cheap/ (http://transfernewscentral.com/2015/08/26/palace-let-gayle-go-cheap/)
Could Pardew (long a fan of FFC) possibly do us a favour regarding Gayle?
Even in these very money driven times
Buy out price & % share sell on clauses for Palace's benefit if / when a premiership side comes knocking (& we haven't managed to get back @ the time)
No need for the lad to move house
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 27, 2015, 09:09:34 AM
PALACE TO LET GAYLE GO ON THE CHEAP
With a week left in the transfer window Crystal Palace are well aware of their need to sell after a transfer market where they have spent a considerable amount.
Palace have signed Yohan Cabaye, Connor Wickham, Bakary Sako and Patrick Bamford this summer and have all produced large transfer fees or wages for the Eagles to consider.
Now with Financial Fair Play rules in place the Londoners are well aware of their need to get players out of the club with Dwight Gayle a possible player to leave according to The Mirror.
Norwich City are an option to sign Gayle who have today had a £10 million bid for Benik Afobe rejected according to BBC, that being the third bid lodged by Alex Neil for the former Arsenal man as Kenny Jackett said last night the striker is not for sale.
Palace are now hoping that Lewis Grabban leaves for AFC Bournemouth, although Alex Neil said last night a deal for the forward was yet to be found between the clubs with the Canaries rejecting a third bid from Eddie Howe for the Cherries former forward.
Should Grabban leave Carrow Road as he has apparently asked that would leave Norwich looking for another striker and Palace are hoping that could see Gayle leave Selhurst Park. Alan Pardew is now considering allowing his striker to leave for a smaller fee than quoted earlier in the window in order to gain funds back from the signings he has already made.
http://transfernewscentral.com/2015/08/26/palace-let-gayle-go-cheap/ (http://transfernewscentral.com/2015/08/26/palace-let-gayle-go-cheap/)
pathetic journalism.
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 27, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
Could Pardew (long a fan of FFC) possibly do us a favour regarding Gayle?
Even in these very money driven times
Buy out price & % share sell on clauses for Palace's benefit if / when a premiership side comes knocking (& we haven't managed to get back @ the time)
No need for the lad to move house
The "Pardew is a Fulham fan" is a bit of a myth.
Interviewed before the Newcastle and Chelsea game last season he said and I quote, "this is the best Chelsea side I've seen and I've been watching them since I was 8 years old"
Unfortunately hes filth.
We may have to lower or expectations. A winger, a forward and a defender are planned but somehow I have a feeling many fans will not be happy at the reality of who we may get in.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
We may have to lower or expectations. A winger, a forward and a defender are planned but somehow I have a feeling many fans will not be happy at the reality of who we may get in.
i thought you were one of the optimistic crowd?
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
It would mean Sam Allerdyce being installed as our manager. As soon as I saw he had left I just assumed Sam has a new job lined up also.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
Nailed on if big Sam was our manager.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 27, 2015, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 27, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
Could Pardew (long a fan of FFC) possibly do us a favour regarding Gayle?
Even in these very money driven times
Buy out price & % share sell on clauses for Palace's benefit if / when a premiership side comes knocking (& we haven't managed to get back @ the time)
No need for the lad to move house
The "Pardew is a Fulham fan" is a bit of a myth.
Interviewed before the Newcastle and Chelsea game last season he said and I quote, "this is the best Chelsea side I've seen and I've been watching them since I was 8 years old"
Unfortunately hes filth.
Not necessarily.
Many in those days would watch Fulham at home one week and Chelsea at home the following week as the clubs alternated home fixtures just because they were interested in watching football. About that time there probably was only Match of the Day which would have one match per week, not like now when you can probably watch a match on television every night of the week, see several full PL matches and highlights of every PL and every Football League game.
Those fans that went to both clubs would have their favourite, either Chelsea or Fulham.
I know we get frustrated about getting players in early.
The truth is, any player that is on our radar this late in the window is either on other clubs lists are being touted by his agent. Bit of a lottery really
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
We may have to lower or expectations. A winger, a forward and a defender are planned but somehow I have a feeling many fans will not be happy at the reality of who we may get in.
i thought you were one of the optimistic crowd?
It is all down to perception. Fans who keep touting big names are optimistic but will be ultimately disappointed. Those who aim low are called pessimistic but are rarely disappointed.
Nolan odds on to join Cardiff
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Michael Mancienne of Notts Forest is the latest player to be rumoured to have had a bid by Fulham put forward.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 12:31:40 PM
Michael Mancienne of Notts Forest is the latest player to be rumoured to have had a bid by Fulham put forward.
Good player, but pretty injury prone. Not sure we've any more space in the physio room for him right now...
Michael Turner signs for Sheff Wed on a season loan
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 27, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
Michael Turner signs for Sheff Wed on a season loan
:dft007:
The club better have someone decent lined up. This is becoming a joke.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Maybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Maybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Very true, how much would they want though, circa 3.5 million?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Maybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Very true, how much would they want though, circa 3.5 million?
I would have thought he's less than that, 2-3m top end, more than that I'd be surprised. But never know with our lot.
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Maybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Very true, how much would they want though, circa 3.5 million?
I would have thought he's less than that, 2-3m top end, more than that I'd be surprised. But never know with our lot.
if we are seriously interested in him (only seen this ITK on twitter not anywhere else) it would make sense to go hard and get this done soon and concentrate on the other 2 players Kit wants. ANyone have any other info on if we ar einterested?
Am I right to expect a Kit press conference today? Or will it be tomorrow? Also, been a while since we got a Kit/Sarah Q&A. Expecting too much to get one of those this week?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 27, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Am I right to expect a Kit press conference today? Or will it be tomorrow? Also, been a while since we got a Kit/Sarah Q&A. Expecting too much to get one of those this week?
It's tomorrow at lunchtime for some reason. Usually away game ones are on a Thursday.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
He has started all five games so far this season.The Nottingham Post reporting that we have bid between £1.5 and £2 million but Forest in no rush to sell
Edit: Mail on line saying £2.5 million bid made by us
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 27, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Am I right to expect a Kit press conference today? Or will it be tomorrow? Also, been a while since we got a Kit/Sarah Q&A. Expecting too much to get one of those this week?
It's tomorrow at lunchtime for some reason. Usually away game ones are on a Thursday.
Perhaps Kit isn't travelling!?
Twitter is funny some forest supporter has put on there I wouldn't sell Mancienne to Fulham for less than McCormack and 2 million LOL
on sky sports website now - so this story seems to have some legs hopefully:
19:34
FULHAM MAKE MANCIENNE MOVE
Fulham have bid for Nottingham Forest defender Michael Mancienne, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old, who started his career with Chelsea, joined Forest in 2014 from Hamburg.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
on sky sports website now - so this story seems to have some legs hopefully:
19:34
FULHAM MAKE MANCIENNE MOVE
Fulham have bid for Nottingham Forest defender Michael Mancienne, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old, who started his career with Chelsea, joined Forest in 2014 from Hamburg.
If true, then we've never really had a plan B since Dunk. Pretty risky this late into the window if it falls through, although we could go back for Turner on loan.. Oh wait.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 27, 2015, 07:17:56 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
on sky sports website now - so this story seems to have some legs hopefully:
19:34
FULHAM MAKE MANCIENNE MOVE
Fulham have bid for Nottingham Forest defender Michael Mancienne, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old, who started his career with Chelsea, joined Forest in 2014 from Hamburg.
If true, then we've never really had a plan B since Dunk. Pretty risky this late into the window if it falls through, although we could go back for Turner on loan.. Oh wait.
Three weeks ago someone confidently predicted on the Brentford messageboard that Tarkowski was coming to us. The poster was friends with an ex Oldham player who has connections on the Oldham board.They were already planning on how to spend the money from the sell on clause.
Not sure what happened ? Think Brentford would've bit our hands off with the £5m we allegedly offered for Dunk or maybe they dont want to risk a fan backlash by selling him to us?
Shame because think he's as good a bet as Dunk was
Before we have the usual 'panic buy' debate. Mancienne has been playing left back and defensive midfield. As we have a longer term injury at left back, It makes sense that we have had ti change our plans and go for a player who is another utility defender like Ream.
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Before we have the usual 'panic buy' debate. Mancienne has been playing left back and defensive midfield. As we have a longer term injury at left back, It makes sense that we have had ti change our plans and go for a player who is another utility defender like Ream.
I hate utility players. I'd rather a player that was so good in one position that we wouldn't dream of playing him anywhere else
We could just add another Dane to our team. Erik Sviatchenko from FC Midtjylland. Earlier this month said he would be open towards a move to the championship as he would see that as a good stepping stone towards PL. Would be available for between 2.5 and 3.5m I reckon. Is a central defender and is currently Danish u21 and around 5th choice of the Danish national square(Denmark's strongest position). Is 23 years old.
Think he would be a good signing for us tbh. But ofc. he does not have that all important championship experience.
Quote from: ..Kya.ffc.. on August 27, 2015, 11:16:00 PM
We could just add another Dane to our team. Erik Sviatchenko from FC Midtjylland. Earlier this month said he would be open towards a move to the championship as he would see that as a good stepping stone towards PL. Would be available for between 2.5 and 3.5m I reckon. Is a central defender and is currently Danish u21 and around 5th choice of the Danish national square(Denmark's strongest position). Is 23 years old.
Think he would be a good signing for us tbh. But ofc. he does not have that all important championship experience.
How u doing mate? I'm still recovering. Hope the hangover didn't ruin your stay. Had a great time from what I remember.
Looks like Forest are going to take their time with our bid and won't made a decision until after their Saturday league fixture.
http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delay-decision-Fulham-bid/story-27690453-detail/story.html#XXFlePqWHQRckYJz.01 (http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delay-decision-Fulham-bid/story-27690453-detail/story.html#XXFlePqWHQRckYJz.01)
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 27, 2015, 11:49:45 PM
Looks like Forest are going to take their time with our bid and won't made a decision until after their Saturday league fixture.
http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delay-decision-Fulham-bid/story-27690453-detail/story.html#XXFlePqWHQRckYJz.01 (http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delay-decision-Fulham-bid/story-27690453-detail/story.html#XXFlePqWHQRckYJz.01)
meaning if we delay long enough one of our rivals may end up a central defender short
DARRYL LACHMAN - Lad on Facebook saying he's a target for us. Seems a weird one as he's just signed for them (wednesday) in June. Can't see it happening but thought I'd chuck it out there. Don't know much about him. Anyone seen much of him @ Twente or Ajax?
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DARRYL LACHMAN - Lad on Facebook saying he's a target for us. Seems a weird one as he's just signed for them (wednesday) in June. Can't see it happening but thought I'd chuck it out there. Don't know much about him. Anyone seen much of him @ Twente or Ajax?
Only know that he is a mystery to most Wednesday supporters who have yet to see him play. Proper centre half but only 6/2.
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DARRYL LACHMAN - Lad on Facebook saying he's a target for us. Seems a weird one as he's just signed for them (wednesday) in June. Can't see it happening but thought I'd chuck it out there. Don't know much about him. Anyone seen much of him @ Twente or Ajax?
Only know that he is a mystery to most Wednesday supporters who have yet to see him play. Proper centre half but only 6/2.
Thats bigger than the other defender were linked with. Mancienne is pretty short.
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
We would lose him for 6 weeks from January during the season for the cup of nations, also had some injury problems not played more than 25 odd games in any of the last 4 seasons. However he is a decent player
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
This a twitter rumour?
Quote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 08:29:37 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
This a twitter rumour?
Yep looks that way, sadly
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Quote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 08:29:37 AM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
This a twitter rumour?
Yep looks that way, sadly
Was reported by the Sun, apparently.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
Maybe but then Olympique Lyonnaisfar better than anyone Bodurov has played for.
the guardian has a different take on Mancienne story:
'Fulham are chasing Nottingham Forest defender Michael Mancienne, which will surely ignite rumours that his biggest fan, Stuart Pearce, is about to take over at Craven Cottage.'
Twitter HTC saying we have launched another bid for stearman of wolves
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Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
Maybe but then Olympique Lyonnaisfar better than anyone Bodurov has played for.
Lyon fans seem quite pleased about the move! Worrying.
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4 year deal for Koné and a transfer fee of €2m according to this:
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lequipe.fr%2FFootball%2FActualites%2FBakary-kone-ol-vers-fulham%2F585549&edit-text= (https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lequipe.fr%2FFootball%2FActualites%2FBakary-kone-ol-vers-fulham%2F585549&edit-text=)
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
Maybe but then Olympique Lyonnaisfar better than anyone Bodurov has played for.
Lyon fans seem quite pleased about the move! Worrying.
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Quotes from Lyon fans:
"Makes a lot of mistakes"
"Worst defender in the world"
"King of giving away penalties in the last 5 minutes" (He'll fit right in there, then)
"Good luck to your goalie"
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sounds a great signing
That's weird. He's obviously a first team regular there (129 appearances in 4 years), playing in the CL aswell. Surely he cant be that bad....especially dropping down to the championship.
I don't know why he'd want to come here...
he hasn't played more than 29 game in any season for the last 4 years, suggests maybe he suffers form injuries.
BUt he cant be all that bad I agree, having said that Voser played CL for a number of years
Possibly some noise to reduce the asking price of the English CBs. Tactic works a treat in the Old Bazaar in Istanbul.
I try not to judge players too harshly before seeing them play for us but Bakary Kone appears to be the Titus Bramble of Ligue 1 in that no one can believe he's managed to maintain a career in a top league and he's prone to numerous ridiculous elaborate errors... just from a brief look through twitter you can see how people feel about him. Parody videos of him from fans pretending to make him look good and advertise him for sale at 10mil (tongue in cheek) funny vine reaction videos of players who are joining Lyon finding out they might have to play alongside Kone etc - tweets from Lyon fans across the board rejoicing at his departure all over the place - a real laughing stock in the French league by all accounts. Worrying if true, would rather Mancienne or Stearman by the looks of things!
Quote from: jayffc on August 28, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
I try not to judge players too harshly before seeing them play for us but Bakary Kone appears to be the Titus Bramble of Ligue 1 in that no one can believe he's managed to maintain a career in a top league and he's prone to numerous ridiculous elaborate errors... just from a brief look through twitter you can see how people feel about him. Parody videos of him from fans pretending to make him look good and advertise him for sale at 10mil (tongue in cheek) funny vine reaction videos of players who are joining Lyon finding out they might have to play alongside Kone etc - tweets from Lyon fans across the board rejoicing at his departure all over the place - a real laughing stock in the French league by all accounts. Worrying if true, would rather Mancienne or Stearman by the looks of things!
oh dear - this sounds like a couldn't get anyone good, last minute transfer window desperation buy of a player no one else wants.
i bet you we get him in.
Richard Stearman of Wolves has been approached again by Fulham. Up a dark alley and a with sad puppy dog eyes.
Boro News and Info @boronewsmfc 15m15 minutes ago
Fernando Amorebieta is set to join Boro on a permenant deal - will be confirmed Monday.
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Boro News and Info @boronewsmfc 15m15 minutes ago
Fernando Amorebieta is set to join Boro on a permenant deal - will be confirmed Monday.
There is a god!
Quote from: jayffc on August 28, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
I try not to judge players too harshly before seeing them play for us but Bakary Kone appears to be the Titus Bramble of Ligue 1 in that no one can believe he's managed to maintain a career in a top league and he's prone to numerous ridiculous elaborate errors... just from a brief look through twitter you can see how people feel about him. Parody videos of him from fans pretending to make him look good and advertise him for sale at 10mil (tongue in cheek) funny vine reaction videos of players who are joining Lyon finding out they might have to play alongside Kone etc - tweets from Lyon fans across the board rejoicing at his departure all over the place - a real laughing stock in the French league by all accounts. Worrying if true, would rather Mancienne or Stearman by the looks of things!
Didn't people in Germany say a similar sort of thing about Riether though before we signed him? It's always hard to judge a player in a foreign league because they can play so differently when they move to a different country - just look at Angel Di Maria as an example of a wonderful player who looked average in the prem.
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Boro News and Info @boronewsmfc 15m15 minutes ago
Fernando Amorebieta is set to join Boro on a permenant deal - will be confirmed Monday.
There is a god!
Thank the lord!
Having played for a team like Athletic Bilbao with its history and traditional playing style I thought we had signed an organised, thoughtful team player but we got an idiot.
Unless I misunderstood or misheard, new signing to play tomorrow per Kit's interview with Sarah Brookes.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/28/manager-video?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=All&utm_campaign=MB (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/28/manager-video?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=All&utm_campaign=MB)
Kone would be a great addition, quick across the ground. Similar playing style to Mancienne, so it looks like we want a ball-playing defender.
Especially with Amore going, we'd be short on those.
Husband Signs :) http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/28/husband-joins-on-loan (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/28/husband-joins-on-loan)
Do you think he is eligible for tomorrow?
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 28, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
Do you think he is eligible for tomorrow?
Kit mentioned in his pre-game video that he's hoping a new singing will be ready for Rotherham. Assume that means him.
Has to be registered by 5pm so you'd imagine he steps straight in to Vosser's spot for tomorrow.
my local team southend signed Piggott on loan on the day of the match this season, I thought it was the day before but that sort of proves that thought wrong
MBS Sport @MBS_Sport 1h1 hour ago
French media reporting that Lyon defender, Bakary Kone is set for a medical at Fulham. £2m fee reports. #FFC #FulhamFC #OL
2 million euros is the fee not 2 million pounds
http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-register-interest-in-lyon-defender (http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-register-interest-in-lyon-defender)
Still feel eve if we bring in a new cb we are not good enough up top to cause problems and ultimately means we are back defending again
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A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 28, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
Still feel eve if we bring in a new cb we are not good enough up top to cause problems and ultimately means we are back defending again
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Agreed, still need another striker regardless.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
Well that is a foregone conclusion.
The only pre-requisite for a new CB is to have a 4 letter surname it seems.
2 Million for Koné has to be worth a gamble.
There's no value for money in the bang-average English players!
Quote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
You might actually be right. Kone could well compare favourably to Championship quality CBs. I guess we have to adjust our expectations in terms of new players. And at EUR 2m he is way cheaper than Dunk could have been.
It is just annoying to be linked to a player that is generating negative feedback from the league is playing in.
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Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
We also have no idea how the player will translate into a new league. Amorebieta had legit credentials. He played for like a decade in La Liga and as an international. He was terrible here.
Lyon fans might think Kone is terrible, and he might be great for us. I don't recall German fans thinking much of Sascha Riether when he came to us, and he was probably the club's player of the year in his first season.
I don't really give a sh1t what the Lyons fans are posting. He is an established international costing Sth of £2m. Let's wait and see, who knows he could be the new JP!
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Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
We also have no idea how the player will translate into a new league. Amorebieta had legit credentials. He played for like a decade in La Liga and as an international. He was terrible here.
Lyon fans might think Kone is terrible, and he might be great for us. I don't recall German fans thinking much of Sascha Riether when he came to us, and he was probably the club's player of the year in his first season.
Spot on, Sacha probably was.
during 3 years I spent working in Belgium I spent a lot of time watching French, Dutch and Belge football. I watched Lille, Lyon and Paris quite a bit as well as Anderlecht, Gent, Genk, Liege and Brugge and from Holland Feyernoord, PSV, Ajax and AZ.
I say this as I have seen Kone play at league level and he had decent games as well as some not so decent, I also seem to remember he never played a full season, several injuries (nothing serious) or lack of form for non selection. He is not great but then he isn't bad either.
Kone > Hutchinson.
Can we give him the number 2012, just for a laugh
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Michael Mancienne is an interesting one, though the profile is clear to see - Mancienne, Dunk and Ream all ball players - we're for sure wanting to build from the back and the proposed team shape suits that. I can't say I know too much about Bakary Kone, but you'd have to say it's a drop in quality from Ligue 1 to the Championship, and he may suit a more rough, leeway, athletically quicker division - one I'd be happy to give a bit of time should it come through.
I'm certain the James Vaughan rumour was horsesh... and think the Richard Stearman one is lazy rehashment.
I don't wish to go back too far, but some decent rumours. I have a feeling we'll be satisfied though come 6pm on Tuesday afternoon.
Forestieri to Wednesday for 3 million apparently
Brentford will not sell £5 mil rated (Haha) Tarkowski due to injury to Bellend.
Srearman not in Wolves team - gossip says fee agreed with Fulham.
Yep. Exactly what I'm seeing on Twitter. Wolves based accounts making that assumption ( 2 million pound fee agreed, apparently ).
I'd imagine that'd be the end of our defensive signings.
Now for a striker, unless Dembele is willing to agree to a new contract and Ross/Kit actually believe it's better for Ross to play further up top.
@tim_spiers_Star: We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
£2m seems to be the fee going around for Richard Stearman. Recall him being thoroughly excellent in the league games against Wolves last year, has that vital Championship promotion to his name also (though two Championship relegations as well).
Leicester City's Player of the Year (and Players' Player) in 2007-08, when they were relegated to League One. He was Fans' and Players' Player of the Year last season too for Wolves. Last one - he was a member of the 2008-09 Championship Team of the Year.
Perfect pedigree, strong experience, results experience and a nice price for a player entering his prime years. Would give us a great spine (ages in brackets) from Lonergan (31), Stearman and Ream (28 and 27), O'Hara (28) and then Ross (29) up top.
@sportbbcwm: .@sportbbcwm understands #Wolves have accepted a £2m bid from Fulham for Richard Stearman. He's been left out of today's 18 man squad
Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Who is Kenny? Affiliated with Wolves I'd imagine, but....
Stearman is a good signing if it happens, definitely prefer him to Dunk personally as well!
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Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Who is Kenny? Affiliated with Wolves I'd imagine, but....
Kenny Jackett is the Wolves manager.
Stearman is a solid defender, so him and Kone are they 2 or the 3? do we need 2 centre backs
Would be delighted with Stearman. We need more options at RCB, £2m is a good price and would leave us with some funds for a striker or wide man.
It would also mean that we'd have a number of teams' recent players of the season: Tim Ream (Bolton), Jamie O'Hara (Blackpool), Ben Pringle (Rotherham), Richard Stearman (Wolves), Tom Cairney (Blackburn's player of the season the previous year) and kept our player of the season, Rossy.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 29, 2015, 02:21:19 PM
Srearman not in Wolves team - gossip says fee agreed with Fulham.
If true, then we really are overhauling our defense completely. If Kone and Stearman sign are Burn and Hutch out of the picture?
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Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Who is Kenny? Affiliated with Wolves I'd imagine, but....
Their manager.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 02:50:04 PM
Stearman is a solid defender, so him and Kone are they 2 or the 3? do we need 2 centre backs
I think it'll be the one more defender.
Right backs: Ashley Richards, Kay Voser
Centre backs: Richard Stearman, Tim Ream, Shaun Hutchinson, Dan Burn
Left backs: James Husband, Sean Kavanagh
That's without including Nikolay Bodurov and injured Luke Garbutt and Jack Grimmer. Plus Kay Voser can cover both full back positions, Tim Ream frequently used a left back, Richards could shuffle over to the left if need be.
That's a strong group of defenders in my opinion.
He is not in wolves squad for today
From a big poster on Molineux Mix:
"Stearman has been sold to Fulham.
£1m plus £1m add on.4 year deal,double his wages.
Impeccable source."
Later the same guy also said:
"Stearman didn't want to go either btw."
Wolves have just tweeted, "Plenty of questions about Richard Stearman. No doubt Kenny will answer those after the game."
I think we'll know by 5pm - Wolves have been impressively open all summer.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 29, 2015, 03:05:18 PM
From a big poster on Molineux Mix:
"Stearman has been sold to Fulham.
£1m plus £1m add on.4 year deal,double his wages.
Impeccable source."
Later the same guy also said:
"Stearman didn't want to go either btw."
lol, if he didnt want to come he wouldnt
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 02:50:04 PM
Stearman is a solid defender, so him and Kone are they 2 or the 3? do we need 2 centre backs
I think it'll be the one more defender.
Right backs: Ashley Richards, Kay Voser
Centre backs: Richard Stearman, Tim Ream, Shaun Hutchinson, Dan Burn
Left backs: James Husband, Sean Kavanagh
That's without including Nikolay Bodurov and injured Luke Garbutt and Jack Grimmer. Plus Kay Voser can cover both full back positions, Tim Ream frequently used a left back, Richards could shuffle over to the left if need be.
That's a strong group of defenders in my opinion.
We supposedly are signing Kone, too. That's suddenly a lot of CB options. Ream can play LB, but you have Husband for a month. Interesting. Well, at least the club did something about that weak area, it seems.
Still need a new striker and wing man to take the pressure off the defence and allow us to stretch others rather than being stretched
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Denver - I think we're at a point of making sure we have plenty of options going into the last few days. We've been rumoured to Kone, Mancienne, Stearman and a fella for the Times has spoken today of how Tyler Blackett's move for Celtic should end our hopes for Paddy McNair.
I think we'll only get one centre back, but the volume of rumours are those we've made enquiries for. We only need four centre backs - would be financially stupid to have more than 5.
Just seen that Ryan Fredericks is leaving Bristol City (after 26 days) for "personal reasons." I'm 99% sure that we've been linked with him before and Steve Cotterill has confirmed he's moving back to London.
With Phil Brown saying Jack Grimmer was going to join Southend on loan before his injury is a little interesting too. Potential back up right back?
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Still need a new striker and wing man to take the pressure off the defence and allow us to stretch others rather than being stretched
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Would love to secure Gayle and Yedlin on loan to play RW.
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Would love to secure Gayle and Yedlin on loan to play RW.
Not the most technical player, Yedlin, but has loads of pace, loves to take on defenders and is an above average crosser of the ball. Could fill in at right back as well. Loan would be excellent...even with option to buy...not sure how he fits in at Spurs.
I think striker has to be the priority after CB. Stearman would fill the CB need, Gayle great for CF.
I think the midfield is looking strong, but we're maybe short of a proper RM/RW (Cairney more of a CM/CAM/RAM). Defence much improved but still not set with Jazz at RB. So, for me, Yedlin would be perfect on loan - gives us the pace we're missing up front on the wings or provides more cover/competition at RB. I'd prefer him at RB (mainly because I think Kit's teams work better with quick overlapping wingbacks (as proven by Husband today), and Stearman covering wouldn't leave me worried by a roaming fullback (unlike when Bod used to cover Jazz).
I would be delighted with a team like:
Lonergan
Yedlin Stearman Ream Husband
Tunnicliffe O'Hara
Cairney Pringle
Gayle Ross
KJ supposedly gonna explain the Stearman situation to press shortly..
Gaffer confirms Wolves have accepted a bid from Fulham for defender Richard Stearman. Says it is a 'football decision'.
From Wolves' official twitter.
It's on!!!
well if kit has admitted bid accepted in public, then this deal has got to be very close.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 05:22:37 PM
well if kit has admitted bid accepted in public, then this deal has got to be very close.
think it was wolves gaffer not kit
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 05:22:37 PM
well if kit has admitted bid accepted in public, then this deal has got to be very close.
think it was wolves gaffer not kit
Correct. Kenny Jackett after their game today confirmed they've accepted the bid.
Fair to say that Wolves' fans aren't pleased.
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=94398&page=7 (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=94398&page=7)
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 29, 2015, 05:27:16 PM
Fair to say that Wolves' fans aren't pleased.
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=94398&page=7 (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=94398&page=7)
ok, but same difference. its been confirmed in public, so hopefully this should be almost a done deal
To me, I think this makes sense to be a late Monday, early Tuesday deal. Depending on when he comes to Motspur Park (presumably tomorrow), then there'll be contract talks and the medical. I don't think contract discussions will be too hard, Wolves have made it clear by agreeing to sell that he's unwanted/unneeded at the club and by us paying for him says we want him. His medical should be smooth as well, he's only missed two games for Wolves in two years (through suspension).
Really good bit of business for us.
Sounds like they're confident it'll go through.
Wolves' twitter:
8 minutes ago
Kenny says Richard has been an excellent player for Wolves and that everyone will wish him all the best for the future.
Just to continue the updates for those interested....
Wolves @OfficialWolves 17m17 minutes ago
@OfficialWolves acknowledges it is a 'big decision' but feels Wolves have talented young defenders coming through and club decided to accept
French media saying in advance talks with kone
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French media saying in advance talks with kone
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Interesting.
Seems a bit much for me.
You tend to want 2 good players for each position, and we have [transfer permitting] Stearman & Hutch at RCB, Burn & Ream at LCB. Can't see a need for Kone, particularly with Bod still around as cover...
Personally can't see us getting both Stearman and Kone unless 2/3 from Hutch/Burn/Bod are off. Even if that were the case, I'd rather not buy Kone, stick with Hutch, and get in Yedlin on loan for around the same price.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 29, 2015, 05:52:45 PM
The Fulham dressing room will be bursting with talented players.
yes but we need the right manager to make the most of them.
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The Fulham dressing room will be bursting with talented players.
yes but we need the right manager to make the most of them.
So what has Kit done wrong today?
A full back is on his way... I'll leave it as that.
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
A full back is on his way... I'll leave it as that.
You can't do that to us!!
Givva clue
Another full back? I can only assume a back up RB on loan
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 29, 2015, 05:52:45 PM
The Fulham dressing room will be bursting with talented players.
yes but we need the right manager to make the most of them.
So what has Kit done wrong today?
where have i said he did something wrong today?
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
A full back is on his way... I'll leave it as that.
i hope we don't buy the Kone guy. all i have heard about him is negative.
Has anybody any rumours of players leaving FFC, i.e if Stearman & Kone come in do one or 2 of Bod/Hutch/Burn go?
If another RB comes in, does Voser go?
Kavanagh/Kaca/Pringle for 2x LM? Kaca or Kavanagh to go?
FPT, you've gone suspiciously quiet.
Care to give us some hints?
Leaving/joining? RB/LB? From Championship/from elsewhere? If joining, is it Van la Parra/Yedlin? If going, is it Voser?
We can keep a secret, honest!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w0ZyfkukUs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w0ZyfkukUs)
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
If I was to hazard a guess and it is just a guess I would say the players vulnerable to a transfer out on deadline day through competition for their position and or the start they have made I would go for
Voser
Hutchinson on loan
Kacaniklic
Hyndman
Taggart
Can't see anyone else leaving and I can't see Kavanagh receiving interest for a loan. Not all of those will go but I would say they are the question marks for me especially if we sign Mancienne and Stearman
Quote from: mkras99 on August 29, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
could be, this is what bristol city manager said today-
"He's leaving us for personal reasons and will be joining another London club. He's having a medical today and will join the club for the same fee that we paid for him.'
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 29, 2015, 06:48:01 PM
If I was to hazard a guess and it is just a guess I would say the players vulnerable to a transfer out on deadline day through competition for their position and or the start they have made I would go for
Voser
Hutchinson on loan
Kacaniklic
Hyndman
Taggart
Can't see anyone else leaving and I can't see Kavanagh receiving interest for a loan. Not all of those will go but I would say they are the question marks for me especially if we sign Mancienne and Stearman
I'd add Bodurov to that list, but otherwise completely agree.
Also, as a bit of an outside bet, I wouldn't be surprised if Scott was shopped around. I know he's been injured, but he's not far off fitness, is probably on higher wages than we want to pay for him and he wouldn't really add anything to our squad when back (he couldn't start ahead of Jamie or Ryan right now). If an offer came in, I think we'd be tempted, and for our competitors he wouldn't be too expensive (fee-wise) but could be considered a "marquee signing" by most in the league.
Think it's time to part company with Parker too.
As for the comments from the bristol manager about Fredericks, I think QPR were pretty strongly linked to him before he went to bristol so could be that he goes there. Don't know a huge amount about him in honesty, any good?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 07:28:21 AM
Forestieri to Wednesday for 3 million apparently
May have missed it but yes, this is a confirmed transfer.
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Forestieri to Wednesday for 3 million apparently
May have missed it but yes, this is a confirmed transfer.
Good signing for them.
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Quote from: mkras99 on August 29, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
could be, this is what bristol city manager said today-
"He's leaving us for personal reasons and will be joining another London club. He's having a medical today and will join the club for the same fee that we paid for him.'
Good shout.
Probably an upgrade on Jazz. Younger too...
Quote from: mkras99 on August 29, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
Another interesting one. Ex-Tottenham starlet, has already, at 22 had quite a weird career. He played against us last year (which seems an essential qualification for our transfer targets) and started quite a few Middlesbrough games. At other times he sat on the bench with James Husband.
Just had a quick look at the bristol forums...All of them seem to be of the consensus that, whilst he's only been there for 4/5 games and therefore perhaps a little too early for a comprehensive judgement...he looked pretty crap and they are more or less pleased he's gone presuming they get someone else in. Old Tottenham mate has also said he watched him alot in the u21s and was never fussed. Thought he was alright but would never make it at any level higher than League 1. Not my words but happy enough if we miss out on this one. Would rather take a chance on somebody like Yedlin (who he said was a better prospect) or even Nathan Byrne by the sounds of it.
https://twitter.com/TomRogers24/status/637687199547432960
Just spotted this on Twitter, no idea if there's any truth at all in it but hey- it's the silly season thread!
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/29/fulham-closing-on-deal-for-lyon-defender-bakary-kone/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/29/fulham-closing-on-deal-for-lyon-defender-bakary-kone/)
Ryan Fredericks will join Fulham for £175k.
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Ryan Fredericks will join Fulham for £175k.
thought he was a free agent
The unnamed London club Ryan Fredericks is set to join from #bristolcity 26 days after leaving Spurs is Fulham #ffc
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Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 09:32:30 PM
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
Ryan Fredericks will join Fulham for £175k.
thought he was a free agent
No, I think Bristol have said they just want their money back on him and they'll let him leave.
As long as he isn't one of the 3 signings then cool, am hoping for 3 good signings, Stearman plus 2 more
Surely there must be a few leaving. Feels like we have a massive squad at the moment
Anyone think we're going to pull Dwight Gayle out of the hat? No, just me then
Gayle has been a regular on the bench and made a few appearances so I would love it but don't think so
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i didnt think you could be registered with 3 different clubs in one season
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i didnt think you could be registered with 3 different clubs in one season
If he'd signed before the season started would it only count as two?
Why does Frederick want to change, bit odd.
Quote from: Berserker on August 30, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
Why does Frederick want to change, bit odd.
Something doesn't seem right at Bristol right now. Their fan forum is littered with theories that something is going on backstage.
Some think it's homesickness, but he spent most of his time at Middlesborough last year, and was great. Bristol is a far nicer city, so must be something at the club.
Quote from: Berserker on August 30, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
Why does Frederick want to change, bit odd.
he said it was personal reasons
Make of that what you will
i am not too keen on fredericks - he has only played 29 league games in 4 years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also hope we dont take kone. stearman would be a good sgning and Mancienne, although not sure we need both of them.
Some mentions of Gary hooper on Twitter, we've gone from 66/1 to 2/5 over the weekend. Could be the unnamed striker?
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 30, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
Some mentions of Gary hooper on Twitter, we've gone from 66/1 to 2/5 over the weekend. Could be the unnamed striker?
good at championship level.
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
I hope not
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Non starter this considering he's just signed a new deal.
Lol. Why on earth did they think we'd accept 10m. Offer double that and maybe we'd consider it.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
think that is because we are in for hooper and they thought they had the deal done. Wednesday are loaded though.
Hooper or Gayle though tough call.
Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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This Ross McCormack thing has come out of nowhere.
I think that one of Ross' biggest failings is his inability to lead the line on his own, he doesn't have the strength and power to hold the ball up and shrug off defenders, nor the pace to be a threat in behind. He's a striker whose ability comes to life from 25 yards outside the opposition box and inwards.
At the end of the day, players have prices. Ross isn't the only player capable of scoring 20 goals in this division. If it reached a point where the price would let us bring in a rounded no.9 and a winger (say Michail Antonio for the right hand side), I'd certainly be interested.
In our best interests to reject anything that's not too good not to.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:21:49 AM
Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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Or it was because they didn't want to sell or loan Husband out for longer. As we already have a player in that position on loan for the season recovering from injury we need a player as good as Husband to bridge the gap until he is fit hopefully.
Or they were and we saved 30/40k per week on salary
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:21:49 AM
Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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Think they probably had us over a barrel. Amore wasn't going to play but is probably quite expensive (wage-wise), Husband is good and cheap - basically we wanted rid and needed cover, they weren't too fussed either way = we get shafted.
Still, I'm bloody glad Amore is gone and Husband back. Hopefully one day we'll be able to make it a permanent.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Personally, and I now I am possibly alone here, if true I would take the money for Ross and run and invest it in a younger, fitter, faster no9.
I do not think we will make promotion (or challenge for it) with Ross as our mainstay striker. Even if we did make the Premiership then we would likely as not have to sell Ross back down to the Championship. His contract extension for me was a mistake. Yes Ross is effective for us but take his penalties and free kicks away from his goal tally (someone else can contribute those) and he does not score enough from open play as he spends to much time playing deep.
£10m could buy Gayle and our mid-field can do the creative stuff that Ross insists on getting involved with. 090.gif
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Quote from: FFC73 on August 30, 2015, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Personally, and I now I am possibly alone here, if true I would take the money for Ross and run and invest it in a younger, fitter, faster no9.
I do not think we will make promotion (or challenge for it) with Ross as our mainstay striker. Even if we did make the Premiership then we would likely as not have to sell Ross back down to the Championship. His contract extension for me was a mistake. Yes Ross is effective for us but take his penalties and free kicks away from his goal tally (someone else can contribute those) and he does not score enough from open play as he spends to much time playing deep.
£10m could buy Gayle and our mid-field can do the creative stuff that Ross insists on getting involved with. 090.gif
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Gayle won't drop a division whilst he is scoring in the prem. Another prem team will take him
Well there are two potential issues with that bid for Ross: how is the fee structured (upfront vs deferred) and how do we reinvest before the end of the window?
At face value £10m is not a bad price, especially if he is disgruntled which might be the case given the output and body language. But what is key is how much we can reinvest right now (so what is the cash portion) and who do we buy so late in the window to replace/improve our strike force?
Surely we are not the only one vying for Gayle and/or Hopper and timing is tight. Sellers will now we got some nice proceeds for the sale of Ross and push the price up. A complex deal like this so latenis fraught with risks that might outweight the benefits in my view. A January deal could be more suitable depending on where we stand in the table.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Personally, and I now I am possibly alone here, if true I would take the money for Ross and run and invest it in a younger, fitter, faster no9.
I do not think we will make promotion (or challenge for it) with Ross as our mainstay striker. Even if we did make the Premiership then we would likely as not have to sell Ross back down to the Championship. His contract extension for me was a mistake. Yes Ross is effective for us but take his penalties and free kicks away from his goal tally (someone else can contribute those) and he does not score enough from open play as he spends to much time playing deep.
£10m could buy Gayle and our mid-field can do the creative stuff that Ross insists on getting involved with. 090.gif
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agree with alot of what you say. the only problem is we ony have a couple of days to get a 20 goal a season replacement. maybe we have one lined up, if not i would reject this bid.
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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surely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
Wednesday are desperate for a striker, much like we were/are for a CB. Play hardball and accept nothing less than 15M because we don't need the money, and if they don't buy then we hardly lose out as we keep one of the best players in the league whilst buying this mystery striker before the window shuts...
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Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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surely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
We are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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surely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
We are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.
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How are we short when Smith is fit again?
Hugo = Smith (when fit) & they sort of dove tailed last year anyway
Mitro? how do you replace something you never had? with Taggart?
Ruiz = Crainey
Ross = rumoured replacement
Woodrow & Dembele are a year older and better
4 (in no particular order) of Woodrow, Dembele, Smith and Ross' replacement for 2015/16
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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surely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
We are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.
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How are we short when Smith is fit again?
Hugo = Smith (when fit) & they sort of dove tailed last year anyway
Mitro? how do you replace something you never had? with Taggart?
Ruiz = Crainey
Ross = rumoured replacement
Woodrow & Dembele are a year older and better
4 (in no particular order) of Woodrow, Dembele, Smith and Ross' replacement for 2015/16
Agreed. 2 players for each position, plus 1 alternate reserve backup for cover/competition.
Main/Quick Striker - Ross/Moussa
Target/Link Man - Smith/Cauley
Reserve Backup - Taggart
With Smith injured it'd be good to get another player in. If Ross goes we 100% need a new striker. 2 would be overkill.
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Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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surely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
We are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.
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Selling Ross would be crazy. Definately needed for our charge up the table.
4th spot by Christmas
@SkySportsLyall: Ryan Fredericks is undergoing a medical at #FulhamFC after a deal was agreed with #BristolCity #FFC More follows.
No we need two strikers if we lose another one. Just filling in names in positions does not make a squad. Dembele and Woodrow are as yet not good enough to carry a position in A Championship side. Yes Dembele is looking better but not there.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:21:49 AM
Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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Husband is only here till Garbutt returns from injury.
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@SkySportsLyall: Ryan Fredericks is undergoing a medical at #FulhamFC after a deal was agreed with #BristolCity #FFC More follows.
Interesting, a replacement for the injured Grimmer? Or a real threat to the position?
Hope this Ross thing goes away quickly. £10m might seem a lot, but that's basically what we paid fot him and he more than repaid that by keeping us up. Now with a few more additions he can help us climb the table and possibly even get promoted. One of the few players in this league that genuinely concern opposition defenders given that he can produce a moment of magic out of nowhere - something which makes him exciting to watch. Not too keen on selling to a rival either, no matter how rich they are, surely we're richer?
If a silly bid over £15m came in then we couldnt really refuse though, but I just don't see that happening.
FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
I know it means nothing but Moussa was retweeting a lot of fans tweets asking him to sign a new deal yesterday.
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@SkySportsLyall: Ryan Fredericks is undergoing a medical at #FulhamFC after a deal was agreed with #BristolCity #FFC More follows.
Interesting, a replacement for the injured Grimmer? Or a real threat to the position?
A good player by most accounts. Good to see us addressing weak areas.
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FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
selling him would pee me off more than it would selling Ross
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FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
selling him would pee me off more than it would selling Ross
Yep, good call, we need them both.
Not seen it on here, but may have missed it, apparently we've made a £2.5m bid for Erik Sviatchenko from FC Midtjylland.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3iy6lt/norwich_and_fulham_submit_25m_bids_for/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3iy6lt/norwich_and_fulham_submit_25m_bids_for/)
500k...they having a laugh?! His showings in youth level internationals alone warrant a considerably higher starting bid. Behave!
fredericks transfer is not exciting me. 30 odd league games in 4 years. i think we can do better even if he is coming as a squad player.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 30, 2015, 03:06:42 PM
Not seen it on here, but may have missed it, apparently we've made a £2.5m bid for Erik Sviatchenko from FC Midtjylland.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3iy6lt/norwich_and_fulham_submit_25m_bids_for/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3iy6lt/norwich_and_fulham_submit_25m_bids_for/)
don't know much about him, he has broken into danish national team though - 2 caps.
All of a sudden things are looking brighter...
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 02:12:32 PM
FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
Wouldn't sell any player who's even close to our first team for that little. Hope Genoa weren't offended by the laughter.
Wednesday need to spend 10 million sorting that stadium out before they aim to be in the top 10. absolute dive.
I'm not saying I *want* to sell Ross, but he's already 29 years old. If the choice is between Ross and something like "Gayle + good RW" ... it doesn't sound that crazy. Maybe take 12M for him and reinvest?
Ok. I am out there. I want us to sell Ross
I sincerely believe that he is the weakest link in the style of play that we are trying to evolve and £10m for a 29-year old on a long contract as a high earner seems a no brainer to me as he will only get older and slower and we are then left with another Parker. Someone that no-one will take off our hands.
IF we do sell him, we should only allow it for Prem. No point damaging our chances of promotion by selling our best player and top scorer and giving another team in the same league the same advantage.
Right we have all had a good joke and a giggle. No more posts about Ross going and it would be a good idea. I will wonder what planet I have woken up to.
I don't think it's unrealistic that we will let him go. Personally I would sell him for that kind of money. I can honestly say I can see this happening!!!
Dont be silly
If a bid of +£12M comes in I'd sell him.
If we can get that money upfront I feel we could genuinely bring in a striker of similar quality and have money left over to improve elsewhere or to save for January
Quote from: PeterFFC on August 30, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
If a bid of +£12M comes in I'd sell him.
If we can get that money upfront I feel we could genuinely bring in a striker of similar quality and have money left over to improve elsewhere or to save for January
Jordan Rhodes??????????????
That would be amazing. Are Blackburn still strapped for cash.
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Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Hoilett has been made avaliable on a free by QPR, would anyone take him? I would, Pacey winger who didnt have the best time at QPR but there is clearly a decent footballer there somewhere
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 10:15:48 PM
Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Not sure I understand this posting
Quote from: westcliff white on August 30, 2015, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 10:15:48 PM
Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Not sure I understand this posting
Reading Twitter I think that means Sheff Wed hoping to snap up Vydra and Kenwyne Jones Tuesday instead of McCormack
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 30, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 30, 2015, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 10:15:48 PM
Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Not sure I understand this posting
Reading Twitter I think that means Sheff Wed hoping to snap up Vydra and Kenwyne Jones Tuesday instead of McCormack
Cheers Hillingdon, I've had a bottle of red and thought maybe it was me.
Sorry reading it back it didn't make sense
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Quote from: @jolslover on August 30, 2015, 10:30:09 PM
Hoilett has been made avaliable on a free by QPR, would anyone take him? I would, Pacey winger who didnt have the best time at QPR but there is clearly a decent footballer there somewhere
Unfortunately isnt he one of the players Harry signed for about 70k a week and hardly ever plays
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 09:57:52 PM
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So much for the whole homesick rumour!
Hoilett is only 25.
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Most Rangers fans on their websites seem to think Hoilett has been a waste of money for them and was well overpaid on ' Arrys watch. That is why he is available !
He was also mustard at Blackburn so the boy has promise
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:34:01 PM
He was also mustard at Blackburn so the boy has promise
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At 25 years old he should have more than promise, he should be delivering.
If true S Wed would be doing good business to get Vydra and Jones.
They would fit together pretty well given a switched on MF.
As it is Bank Holiday will anybody be at Fulham to announce all the comings and goings tomorrow or will we have to wait until Tuesday when the window SLAMS shut at 6pm
19:15 Bakary Koné currently in London
Lyon are also expecting at least one departure in the next 24 hours.
The most likely player to be leaving the club is Bakary Koné. Lyon and Fulham had a agreed a fee for the player worth between €2m and €2.5m.
Koné has been in London since the beginning of the weekend to finalise a move, but there have not been any further developments since then.
One to watch.
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2015/transfer-deadline-day-live-monday-31st-august-to-tuesday-1st-september-2015/ (http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2015/transfer-deadline-day-live-monday-31st-august-to-tuesday-1st-september-2015/)
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Some Fulham fans have already started commenting on the stats page saying he is no better than Bodurov.
I think video games stats are pretty accurate and update often. Don't take my word for it :005:
http://www.futhead.com/15/players/14124/bakary-kone/ (http://www.futhead.com/15/players/14124/bakary-kone/)
It makes me laugh how people where clamouring for Lewis Dunk, who I expect 90% of people has probably only seen play against us, who lets face it has only had 1 decent season in the second tier of English football, and Kone who has been regularly playing in the top flight of French football and in the champions league for the second best team in France is seen as not good enough for us.
Do people think better players are at championship clubs than Lyon? Surely Lyon would have been after Dunk if that were the case.
As I said before, maybe Lyon fans don't think Kone is good enough for CL football, but surely there is a massive step down from Lyon to championship teams
Quote from: Ordar on August 31, 2015, 08:58:32 AM
It makes me laugh how people where clamouring for Lewis Dunk, who I expect 90% of people has probably only seen play against us, who lets face it has only had 1 decent season in the second tier of English football, and Kone who has been regularly playing in the top flight of French football and in the champions league for the second best team in France is seen as not good enough for us.
Do people think better players are at championship clubs than Lyon? Surely Lyon would have been after Dunk if that were the case.
As I said before, maybe Lyon fans don't think Kone is good enough for CL football, but surely there is a massive step down from Lyon to championship teams
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Know sweet FA about Kone apart from Lyon fans think hes crap. Do we need him though? If Stearman comes which by all accounts looks likely, you'll have him, Kone ,Ream and the present lot. Maybe Ream being lined up for left back?
I'm not saying Kone's bad, but CL football isn't necessarily a badge of quality; Voser being a prime example of that. Many would argue that Voser, a CL RB, would be behind Jack Grimmer, a player only really experienced in L1 as an RB.
I also think that many on here - like myself - like the fact that Championship proven players are more of a known quantity and won't need time to adjust (that is, if that manage to adjust to life here at all). Look at players like Cairney, Lonergan and O'Hara - certainly not CL quality, but know the league, know what it takes to succeed here and perform well.
The Championship is a funny league and one that I don't think many people comprehend the challenges of.
So, yeah, for me it'd be Dunk>Kone, just because Dunk is proven in this league. Kone could turn out to be amazing, even the best CB in the league, but it's a risk - that's the point.
Still, I'd be happy to have him here (even if I think it's slightly unnecessary if Stearman joins).
I would rather sign Mancienne and Stearman if we are going to sign two
If Kone in London rumour true I find that quite worrying.
If Stearman was coming would we need Kone? Not unless Symons sees Ream as a left back?
Think Stearman, Ream and the other CBs perfectly adequate, Kone would be too many
Surely all transfers are a risk though. The championship experience argument just doesn't work for me personally. If we look at an extreme example, it would be like saying you'd rather sign Beckford rather than Messi because he's more experienced in the league.
RE Voser: I have no idea what happened to him. Although I will say that I'm of the opinion that fullbacks should be played on their natural side (left footed on the left, right footed on the right.) I actually think that has more of an impact on performance than people think. That said, Voser has been extremely average
I look at it this way, a player who plays in European leagues or CL coming to Fulham in the championship. And a club willing to sell them to us for peanuts suggests to me they are not that great. Let's be honest if they were that great they would be signing for a premier league club , the champs league on their CV paints a false picture in many cases.
Voser Amorebieta and Hoogland. Are they really any better than a solid championship player. I feel you know what you get with a stearman or a dunk and they tend to be less of a risk. Kone might come off but I would suggest if he was that good for just 2 million why haven't a better team come in for him? And why is he so keen on a downgraded move?
Comparing Messi isn't really relevant because he wouldn't ever come here. I know you said it was an extreme example but I think the comparison has to be more realistic if it's to be a valid point in this debate. But having said all that, fulham do tend to find gems from abroad so fingers crossed he turns out to be good. I won't criticise any player until I've seen them play
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 09:54:56 AM
I look at it this way, a player who plays in European leagues or CL coming to Fulham in the championship. And a club willing to sell them to us for peanuts suggests to me they are not that great. Let's be honest if they were that great they would be signing for a premier league club , the champs league on their CV paints a false picture in many cases.
Voser Amorebieta and Hoogland. Are they really any better than a solid championship player. I feel you know what you get with a stearman or a dunk and they tend to be less of a risk. Kone might come off but I would suggest if he was that good for just 2 million why haven't a better team come in for him? And why is he so keen on a downgraded move?
Comparing Messi isn't really relevant because he wouldn't ever come here. I know you said it was an extreme example but I think the comparison has to be more realistic if it's to be a valid point in this debate. But having said all that, fulham do tend to find gems from abroad so fingers crossed he turns out to be good. I won't criticise any player until I've seen them play
WHY HAVEN'T A BETTER TEAM COME IN FOR HIM? I think you are confused DB! I shall be keeping an eye on you!! :(
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 09:54:56 AM
I look at it this way, a player who plays in European leagues or CL coming to Fulham in the championship. And a club willing to sell them to us for peanuts suggests to me they are not that great. Let's be honest if they were that great they would be signing for a premier league club , the champs league on their CV paints a false picture in many cases.
Voser Amorebieta and Hoogland. Are they really any better than a solid championship player. I feel you know what you get with a stearman or a dunk and they tend to be less of a risk. Kone might come off but I would suggest if he was that good for just 2 million why haven't a better team come in for him? And why is he so keen on a downgraded move?
Comparing Messi isn't really relevant because he wouldn't ever come here. I know you said it was an extreme example but I think the comparison has to be more realistic if it's to be a valid point in this debate. But having said all that, fulham do tend to find gems from abroad so fingers crossed he turns out to be good. I won't criticise any player until I've seen them play
WHY HAVEN'T A BETTER TEAM COME IN FOR HIM? I think you are confused DB! I shall be keeping an eye on you!! :(
I bleed black and white.............I was born confused!!!!!
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Don't quote me on it but I think their deadlines mean they can't sign players. For example Madrid have to tie up De Gea today but we could still sign Bale tomorrow. Or Kone..........whatever floats your boat
Messi is obviously a ridiculous comparison to Kone, but my point stands - how many times have you heard the phrase "he's good, but could he do it on a rainy night in Stoke?".
For that sort of level of transfer, look at how Di Maria faired at Utd...
Currently Aaron Ramsey (a player who reportedly nearly joined us) is performing better than Mesut Ozil. James Wilson (a player only successful at youth levels before) was keeping Radamel Falcao on the bench at Utd. I don't think anyone would say Ramsey and Wilson are (on paper) better players than Falcao and Ozil, but they performed better in the league.
Right tool for the job an all that...
Every transfer is a risk, but IMO that risk is lowered when the player has succeeded against the same opposition, played in the same country, speaks the language, doesn't even have to move very far and hasn't got any of the "settling in" barriers a player from another country and different league has to face.
Plenty of rumors right now , will be interesting to follow this over the next 2 days. I've been follow Lyon a bit over the last seasons. Bakery is a little bit naive in his way of defending from time to time but a real threat in the air. Of course this would be a gamble, no doubt about that. 2 - 2,5 million is a bargin. At his top of his game he would take a place in any PL team in mid/bottom region. We'll wait and see but this COULD be a great addition to the team.
It's a lot of rumors - How many defenders do we actually need? Mancini, Fredricks, Jone and Stearman.. Witch one of these would fit best into our team? No rumours about any strikers recently? What about Gayle? Many questions will be answered in the next couple of days. Surly it'll be quite interesting anyway!
Kone deal off, fulham prefer other options.
Feyenord 1 Million Euros for Dembele rejected
Fulham have informed his club that they will NOT be signing Kone.
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
that's incorrect, they can still sell players but not sign after their respective deadlines, a good example of this is Russian and turkish clubs signing UK based players after the deadline as theirs is a few days later and has been for the last few windows
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
hopefully means Mancienne and Stearman are close to completion
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
L'equipe who reported the deal in the first place now reporting its off, they're usually correct by the sound of it.
We have far too many Kones on the M25, we don't need another one.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 31, 2015, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
L'equipe who reported the deal in the first place now reporting its off, they're usually correct by the sound of it.
L Equipe is usually not the fastest to report rumours, but generally very reliable when it comes to statements like the one for Kone. They mentioned a €6m fee for Mancienne though. Not cheap.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 10:46:10 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
that's incorrect, they can still sell players but not sign after their respective deadlines, a good example of this is Russian and turkish clubs signing UK based players after the deadline as theirs is a few days later and has been for the last few windows
Thanks for that. I was not aware of that.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 31, 2015, 10:49:09 AM
We have far too many Kones on the M25, we don't need another one.
At a guess I'd say having a Wolley Mammoth on the M25 probably causes a little more of an issue traffic wise....................
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Don't quote me on it but I think their deadlines mean they can't sign players. For example Madrid have to tie up De Gea today but we could still sign Bale tomorrow. Or Kone..........whatever floats your boat
Yep, fairly sure teams with an open window can still sign from those where the window is closed.
Correct. windows are for incoming players. So we can buy from France tomorrow, but a French team can't buy Moussa.
hope kone is off. heard only negative things about this player.
window will be closed in 24 hours. so we will all be put out of our misery and find out who is actually coming in,,,,,,,,,,,,,and going out.
Some rumours that Hutch maybe joining Sheff Utd on loan
Fulham still being linked with moves for Matej Vydra
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
+1.
They are damaging careers by contracting a tonne of players and farming them around the world.
Quote from: FPT on August 31, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
+1.
They are damaging careers by contracting a tonne of players and farming them around the world.
Yes, a young, talented player like Roberts would be foolish to join them.
Whoops!
@SportsPeteO: Fulham are set to sign Bristol City defender Ryan Fredericks on a three-year deal. #ffc #bcfc
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
Perhaps there is a justification for the FA to enact rules on expanded squad sizes for both U-21 and seniors now, and the number of players that can be loaned out in any period between transfer windows. Thus, reduce the ability for teams to buy up and then loan out players, and therefore unduly influencing the various leagues as a whole by such actions. Any other players purchased over and above the limit would be ineligible to play in any FA or UEFA sanctioned matches.
Would need to take into account the league and any potential or actual European leagues/competitions the team is due to partake in for that period.
All quiet on te stearman front
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
Expect Stearman, Fredericks and one more I'd say..
Spearman, Fredricks and 2 more (Mancienne and a striker either Hooper or Gayle)
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
Said fee agreed and he was discussing a contract, for me far form done as rumour is he doesn't want to leave Wolves as he is settled in the area. Although I am taking the fact the Kone deal is off means Stearman or Manicienne are basically done, although I expect to get both of them
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All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
confirmed a bid was excepted. Lot of talk that he doesn't want to leave, and 48 hours later, still no news
It will be interesting to see who will go as well. If we get both Stearman and Mancienne, I would expect two of Hutchinson, Bodurov and Burn to go either on loan or permanently. I don't think Ream came as a left-back; we wouldn't get Husband on loan, if that was the case and he looks very comfortable with the ball, that makes him a class above our other central defenders at the moment. Also, with Fredericks in the picture Voser may go and probably Grimmer on loan when he gets fit.
I would fancy mancienne stearman fredericks. Added to that a striker and wide man or some one who can come in off the wing and act as a forward
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 01:40:29 PM
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All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
confirmed a bid was excepted. Lot of talk that he doesn't want to leave, and 48 hours later, still no news
This was always to be a late today, early tomorrow one. Needed to travel down here, discuss contract and undergo medical.
Thats all whilst we've got Ryan Fredericks in doing his stuff and trying to work on other deals.
Nothing to worry about.
Been reported that Fulhams asking price for Dembele is putting French clubs off.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 01:48:00 PM
Been reported that Fulhams asking price for Dembele is putting French clubs off.
It's sad that we even have an asking price
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All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
confirmed a bid was excepted. Lot of talk that he doesn't want to leave, and 48 hours later, still no news
This was always to be a late today, early tomorrow one. Needed to travel down here, discuss contract and undergo medical.
Thats all whilst we've got Ryan Fredericks in doing his stuff and trying to work on other deals.
Nothing to worry about.
by that theory, we won't sign anyone who we didn't have a bid accepted for by Saturday.
Junior Hoillett can leave qpr on a free. With no transfer fee involved surely he's worth a punt? Would certainly help with pace and width. Thoughts?
Never afford his wages. Even moreso on a free.
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
Quote from: Nathan_ffc on August 31, 2015, 03:25:37 PM
Junior Hoillett can leave qpr on a free. With no transfer fee involved surely he's worth a punt? Would certainly help with pace and width. Thoughts?
Yes. Would love this. He was quality at Blackburn
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
Good move, he needs game time to progress
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
What? It's a good move for both. If he won't be in our first team, it's better he plays good competitive first team football than for the development squad.
Quote from: kiwiwaka on August 31, 2015, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
What? It's a good move for both. If he won't be in our first team, it's better he plays good competitive first team football than for the development squad.
Plumain is 20. Another year at under 21 level will not benefit him. 1st team football will, even if it is in the French second divison.
That's one signing today - 3 year deal for Fredericks. Not gonna pretend I've ever much of him play (that i've taken notice of, anyway).
I am hoping that Fredericks wasn't one of the 3 we have heard about, hoping they are Spearman, Mancienne and a striker with non of our first teamers leaving
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 01:48:00 PM
Been reported that Fulhams asking price for Dembele is putting French clubs off.
It's sad that we even have an asking price
A club might have an 'asking price' just to scare off those that enquire.
But we also have to remember that Dembele has yet to sign a new contract so that he has put himself in the market and we may have to get what value we can for him.
Do we really need both Stearman and Manciene? With Ream just signed I would play him and Stearman. We would be better off signing one of the two, a striker and a rapid winger.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 04:10:06 PM
I am hoping that Fredericks wasn't one of the 3 we have heard about, hoping they are Spearman, Mancienne and a striker with non of our first teamers leaving
for me they are both needed, would mean after Garbutt (and Husbands leaves unless we extend the loan) that we have 2 players who can cover at left back in Mancienne and Ream
Really hope Stearman isn't playing us in the hope of getting a contract rise at Wolves
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 04:19:18 PM
Really hope Stearman isn't playing us in the hope of getting a contract rise at Wolves
Don't think he can be it was wolves decision to sell, Jackett said as much
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko 8m8 minutes ago
Forest want 2.5m for Michael Mancienne. Fulham not at that number.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 31, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko 8m8 minutes ago
Forest want 2.5m for Michael Mancienne. Fulham not at that number.
You can't believe these twitter statements but if true for goodness sake Fulham. No wonder we take so long. I don't think Forest are being unreasonable at all with that valuation.
You either want him or you dont
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Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
What? It's a good move for both. If he won't be in our first team, it's better he plays good competitive first team football than for the development squad.
I didn't say it wasn't a good move.
McCormack to Norwich for 12 million?
Rhodes is on 40k a week with Blackburn so that will be a very tough deal to broker as it would break our wage cap (I think)
Apparently we are looking to loan hooper, suppose similar to what we wanted with gayle
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 05:11:15 PM
McCormack to Norwich for 12 million?
have you been reading tiff?
@JM_Aulas "Il y a une discorde avec le club mais pour nous Bako Koné est un joueur de @FulhamFC" #teamOL #Mercato
Lyon president says that he considers Kone a Fulham player. Fifa to decide according to White Noise on twitter.
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
17:43 BREAKING: Jean-Michel Aulas threatens action against Fulham
Jean-Michel Aulas has threatened to take Fulham to FIFA for going back on an agreement for the transfer of Bakary Kone.
The outspoken Frenchman has claimed:
"There was a disagreement with the club, but for us Kone is a Fulham player."
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 31, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
here we go. Bet this stops us signing stearman
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 31, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
here we go. Bet this stops us signing searman
That's my worry.
Not a good situation...
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
17:43 BREAKING: Jean-Michel Aulas threatens action against Fulham
Jean-Michel Aulas has threatened to take Fulham to FIFA for going back on an agreement for the transfer of Bakary Kone.
The outspoken Frenchman has claimed:
"There was a disagreement with the club, but for us Kone is a Fulham player."
Poor bloke! Not wanted by anyone.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 31, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
here we go. Bet this stops us signing stearman
Was thinking the same. Gone quiet on Stearman, Wolves announced fee agreed player to sort terms. Was reported Kone was in London this morning, something definitely not quite right with all this. Much prefer Stearman
This Kone situation is really worrying...
Even if it's not a done-deal, the threat of litigation might put the club off spending on new players in case they are forced into the deal.
It's also probably doing Kone's confidence no good to have two clubs fighting NOT to sign him.
Hopefully the club put out a statement to let us know their side...
Jelle Vossen has signed for Club Brugge - two months after signing for Burnley. Another weird one.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Jelle Vossen has signed for Club Brugge - two months after signing for Burnley. Another weird one.
Would have loved him at Fulham to be fair. Reading have just got Piazon. That is a madness signing
Not sure Kone deal should bother us. We can continue with whatever deals we were doing. No embargo can come into effect in the last few hours. In the end it really comes down to who signed what and when.
So, If I am reading correctly, we are linked with (3) more CBs...and around 2-3 strikers? Good problem to have I guess. We go from a terrible defense to a very crowded central defense. Still not sure Jazz is a long term answer and would love to somehow figure out how we get a perm deal for husband. Husband looks to be the real deal. He could be the long term solution for that position.
Who starts if we sign both Kone and Stearman? Stearman and Ream?
The club should make a statement re Kone as LYon seem to be dissing us a lot on this.
I do not think it will stop us signing the player / players we want at all, seems any striker will be a loan as that's what we want for Gayle or Hooper, so 4/4.5 million in total for Stearman and Mancienne should not be an issue
lyon want to report fulham to fifa over kone
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2015/transfer-deadline-day-live-monday-31st-august-to-tuesday-1st-september-2015/ (http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2015/transfer-deadline-day-live-monday-31st-august-to-tuesday-1st-september-2015/)
Our odds of get rhodes have been cut.
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Can't read french, but hear that Lyon are more than confident about the Kone transfer going through; their president sats the case is more than iron-clad, as there's a completely signed agreement by all parties.
Doesn't sound good.
Just as I thought the club were getting things back on track...
Conners ن @Conradffc 15m15 minutes ago
@WhiteNoise1879 Just a couple more things of some websites, Lyon pres said that a deal had been officially signed after passing all medicals
Anyone speak french and care to transcribe/summarise?
http://www.videos-football.com/video-1067525-aulas-rgle-ses-comptes-avec-fulham-pour-kon.html (http://www.videos-football.com/video-1067525-aulas-rgle-ses-comptes-avec-fulham-pour-kon.html)
Quote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 07:02:33 PM
Our odds of get rhodes have been cut.
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Sky Bet have us a 18/1
Were 50-1 yesterday
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Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:08:23 PM
Conners ن @Conradffc 15m15 minutes ago
@WhiteNoise1879 Just a couple more things of some websites, Lyon pres said that a deal had been officially signed after passing all medicals
no one wants this guy...
Fulham, why do we want him?! Why did we back out!?
OL News / English @OLNews_eng 1m1 minute ago
he had to leave on international duty & Fulham said he had to undergo more medical tests & then decided not to sign him".
OL News / English @OLNews_eng 3m3 minutes ago
Incredible developing story with Bakary Koné. Aulas "considers him a Fulham player. We signed his transfer. They dragged their feet until..
Hopefully they got the same person who did ruiz loan deal paperwork last year do the paperwork on this one
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Kone, Stearman, Mancienne, Fredericks, Ream, Husband, Richards, Garbutt, Lonergan, Lewis.
Do we take it that Kit's finally got fed up of being accused of not sorting out the defence?
Quote from: Arthur on August 31, 2015, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Kone, Stearman, Mancienne, Fredericks, Ream, Husband, Richards, Garbutt, Lonergan, Lewis.
Do we take it that Kit's finally got fed up of being accused of not sorting out the defence?
Burn, Bod, Hutch, Voser, are all like :026:
Quote from: Arthur on August 31, 2015, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Kone, Stearman, Mancienne, Fredericks, Ream, Husband, Richards, Garbutt, Lonergan, Lewis.
Do we take it that Kit's finally got fed up of being accused of not sorting out the defence?
8 defenders 2.goal keepers ross up front sorted. Still bet we don't keep a clean sheet
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PM
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
if he hadn't finished his medical why did he leave? silly boy, what do Lyon expect?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PM
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
if he hadn't finished his medical why did he leave? silly boy, what do Lyon expect?
i dont think we want him and are trying to find a loophole? I would not be sad if we missed out on this guy.
Quote from: horse1031 on August 31, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PM
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
if he hadn't finished his medical why did he leave? silly boy, what do Lyon expect?
i dont think we want him and are trying to find a loophole? I would not be sad if we missed out on this guy.
that maybe the case but if the club say he had more tests to do then he hasn't finished it and no deal is complete without a successfully completed medical as we know.
I am thinking maybe a letter of intent was signed, as the deadline in continental Europe is today, and they are taking this as a contract being signed. Where as a letter of intent allows the deadline to pass without a deal being completed but it can be completed within 24 hours of the passed deadline
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PM
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
I read this quote as meaning in plain English...........
We want to get rid of him, FFC decarled they wanted him, we thanked our lucky stars but now the player has gone off in a huff.
We are going to stick our head in the sand and make out he's not our problem any more.
Looks like Gayle isn't an option anymore.
According to one daily paper today we have failed to agee a deal with Palace for him.
Fulham have reportedly turned down multiple loan and transfer deals for Emerson Hyndman
Dan Burn to Sheffield United - gossip reports.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
Dan Burn to Sheffield United - gossip reports.
hmmmmmmm
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
Dan Burn to Sheffield United - gossip reports.
That came from "@DaFootballPlace" on Twitter which has only tweeted a handful of times.
Jonathan Walters anyone? Just handed in a transfer request. Admittedly far fetched as he will want to stay in the prem but I like him.
The French transfer live updates that were recently posted are also stating that Plumain is on his was to Red Star in league 2. Would be disappointed to see him go, seemed like a real coup when we signed him.
He already has gone to Red Star on loan?
So, do we have the full day tomorrow to get in our last signings, since today is a holiday there?
closes tomorrow at 5pm here
Reports on Twitter we have made a late bid for Jake Buxton CB from Derby. Hopefully rubbish and we announce Stearman ASAP.
Simon peach, a London based football reporter : "FFC remain confident of signing stearman, hooper could also arrive. Kone deal complicated."
Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
#FFC remain confident of signing Stearman before window closes, while Hooper could yet arrive on loan from #NCFC. Koné situation complicated
I have to say, I feel sorry for Kone
Norwich sign Mbokani (An FFC target under Jol) on loan, must mean they are letting someone go
Really hope we geet Stearman
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 09:42:20 PM
Norwich sign Mbokani (An FFC target under Jol) on loan, must mean they are letting someone go
They're looking to get rid of Lafferty, Hooper, van wolfswinkel, grabban, and keep Jerome, no wonder they want Mbokani.
Dembele to Feyenoord on loan ?
What's the source?
Feyenoord website and their Twitter page includes quotes from dembele
From my time in Belgium and Holland working have a mate who is a fey fan and he rung earlier asking about him, apparently they had a cash bid of 820k euros rejected today
http://www.fr12.nl/nieuws/33287-%23tt-%7C-fulham-wijst-bod-van-feyenoord-af.html (http://www.fr12.nl/nieuws/33287-%23tt-%7C-fulham-wijst-bod-van-feyenoord-af.html)
it's deadline day in the transfer market and various rumors have traditionally even on the final day of the world thrown in. According to Get French Football News Fulham have rejected a bid of one million euros from Feyenoord.
The Rotterdam hoped thereby attacker Moussa Dembélé detach weeks, which earlier in the transfer window also been linked to Feyenoord. The French youth international has broken through last season in the first team of Fulham. The striker played this season so far five league matches for the club from the Championship.
#TT: Tabloid Transfers, the section with the latest news from the foreign (tabloid) press
Firstly, you've been duped by a fake Twitter account. Always look for the verification tick.
Most recent update for Moussa was 9 hours ago by Get French Football:
"According to sources contacted exclusively by Get French Football News, Fulham's young striker Moussa Dembélé will not be leaving the club during this window.
This is in no large part down to Fulham's asking price for the player: €5m plus €1m in bonuses (per every 10 appearances).
Several sides submitted offers for the player this summer, but came nowhere near Fulham's valuation."
Pfft. Never been and never will get to grips with twitter
De gea to Madrid could be off due to paperwork not arriving on time
Lol €1m for Dembele? Pretty sure we paid £1m for him when he was 16!
Not exactly Fulham related, but I would have liked to see Angella in a white shirt - he was really impressive against us last year. Personally, I would prefer him to Stearman.
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/13637249.Angella_set_for_QPR_medical_ahead_of_loan_switch/? (http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/13637249.Angella_set_for_QPR_medical_ahead_of_loan_switch/?)
Yedlin still waiting on a loan. Would be the RW/RM option we need to have a full on competition for time on the left between Kaka and Pringle.
Come on Fulham! We need some real speed within the team.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2015, 01:32:33 AM
Yedlin still waiting on a loan. Would be the RW/RM option we need to have a full on competition for time on the left between Kaka and Pringle.
Come on Fulham! We need some real speed within the team.
I can't see that happening, especially after signing Fredericks. He would only be a backup for Cairney, unless we started using Cairney behind the striker.
Quote from: Asotosyios on September 01, 2015, 01:35:48 AM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2015, 01:32:33 AM
Yedlin still waiting on a loan. Would be the RW/RM option we need to have a full on competition for time on the left between Kaka and Pringle.
Come on Fulham! We need some real speed within the team.
I can't see that happening, especially after signing Fredericks. He would only be a backup for Cairney, unless we started using Cairney behind the striker.
It would make little sense to sign another defender who could play rm when we need pace upfront. I would rather a CB and a Gayle type player who can stretch teams. Dembele with another year under his belt could be that but right now he is a bit short. Still my starter with Ross but he was always clinical when being asked to be so. Now we are asking more he seems to be less clinical yet more useful. If he can do both then we have struck gold.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2015, 12:24:25 AM
Lol 1m for Dembele? Pretty sure we paid £1m for him when he was 16!
out of contract at end of the season, tribunal will issue less than a million, that's the dilemma, rumour is though he is now discussing a new deal with us as well
Hooper and Lafferty expected to leave Norwich today.
Hooper been linked to us, but Lafferty would provide a great target man in the absence of Smith.
I think we are moving away from the target man out last 2 games have been good performances playing without a target
Sky sources understand Watford's Matej Vydra is joining Reading on a season-long loan.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
I think we are moving away from the target man out last 2 games have been good performances playing without a target
pumping it up to smith wasn't working and it didn't work last season either.
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 09:57:59 AM
Sky sources understand Watford's Matej Vydra is joining Reading on a season-long loan.
with a 2 million pound loan fee
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2015, 09:59:37 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
I think we are moving away from the target man out last 2 games have been good performances playing without a target
pumping it up to smith wasn't working and it didn't work last season either.
which is why I think we are moving away form it, we look more fluid and competent the last 2 games
Fulham's young striker Adam Taggart has agreed to join Dundee United on a season-long loan, according to Sky sources.
Meanwhile, Fulham defender Nikolay Bodurov is set to move out on loan to another Championship club with a number of clubs chasing him.
Taggart is apparently going to Dundee United on loan and Bodurov has been made available to Championship clubs. We're signing rivals' best players and sending them our worst - I like it!
Glad Taggart's going out on loan. Needs games and he's not gonna get them here with Ross + Dembele/Woodrow/Smith when he returns/new signing.
Stearman undergoing a medical
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good good
Quote from: kempkong on September 01, 2015, 10:50:11 AM
Stearman undergoing a medical
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lets hope he sticks around for the second part of it
Good, lets get this Stearman deal done. Will be interesting to hear (if we do) if he was actually the first choice ahead of Dunk, and it just took Wolves ages to decide to sell as was reported. There cant be too many CB partnerships on paper better than Stearman and Ream in this division.
A little over seven hours left in the transfer window, but no-one hurries Dimitar Berbartov.
The former Tottenham and Manchester United striker, a free agent after leaving Monaco, is in the Midlands according to Sky Sports and is strolling in Aston Villa's direction.
At least at 34, his game has never been reliant on pace.
James WIlson is available for loan apparently, now he is quick and can finish (a u21 level anyway)
Fulham have reportedly turned down a bid from Sheffield United for Dan Burn although talks are said to be ongoing.
Norwich are hoping to bring in a striker before allowing Hooper to leave.
Gossip
Would be gutted if this happens.
SSN:
SHEFF UTD BID FOR BURN
Sheffield United have made a bid for Fulham's Dan Burn, according to Sky sources.
We understand it has not met Fulham's valuation and talks between the clubs over a deal remain ongoing.
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2015/09/fulham-reject-blades-bid-for-burn/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2015/09/fulham-reject-blades-bid-for-burn/)
I'm not sure whether this is bad or not, I like Burn, but he has shown his limitations over the last couple of seasons. He was at fault for their Goal on Saturday, he turns slower than the Queen Mary.
I'm just not sure whether he is good enough consistently at this level. Although there is no doubting his enthusiasm or effort.
Anyone think we could be working our way towards a flexible 3-5-2 sort of formation?
With Ream a CB/LB, Mancienne a CB/RB, Fredricks being a RB/RM and Husband and LB/LM, could work well...
How we could look next game:
(http://i59.tinypic.com/nb6xyd.png)
And - without subs - could change to something like:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2nsuafp.png)
The 3-5-2 does look a good way to integrate all of our possible best players, but the only problem is how hard it seems to be to coach. There don't seem to be that many teams in world football who have successfully turned it into their go-to formation, and we all know about Symons' tactical shortcomings...
Would like to keep Burn as cover, better than Bodurov who we seem to be offloading can't keep both on the books!
Palace reject Gayle bid from Villa according to sky, think we can write this one off unfortunately, think a prem club will stump up the cash. Most we can hope for is a last minute loan if no one matched their price, though with them selling Murray (they have agreed a fee with Bournemouth) they may well want to hold on to him.
Hooper it is? Would have preferred someone with pace in honesty but decent enough scoring pedigree at this level.
I'm personally not that bothered if Burn goes. I know some people like him, but top end of League 1 is probably his level.
Really hope we keep Big Dan. Always seemed to be Hangeland's clone to me - if he makes the sort of progress that Brede did we'll regret selling him. And Dan seems to love playing for Fulham - he really celebrated the equaliser the other week after winning the ball for it.
burn is better than Bod or Hutch so would prefer to see those 2 go out somewhere, how many do we need 4? then we will need two to come in s well Stearman plus one
Quote from: jayffc on September 01, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
Would like to keep Burn as cover, better than Bodurov who we seem to be offloading can't keep both on the books!
Palace reject Gayle bid from Villa according to sky, think we can write this one off unfortunately, think a prem club will stump up the cash. Most we can hope for is a last minute loan if no one matched their price, though with them selling Murray (they have agreed a fee with Bournemouth) they may well want to hold on to him.
Hooper it is? Would have preferred someone with pace in honesty but decent enough scoring pedigree at this level.
Im hoping against hope that Fulham can do something with Gayle. Would much prefer him to Hooper, pace is something we have a chronic lack of
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 01, 2015, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: jayffc on September 01, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
Would like to keep Burn as cover, better than Bodurov who we seem to be offloading can't keep both on the books!
Palace reject Gayle bid from Villa according to sky, think we can write this one off unfortunately, think a prem club will stump up the cash. Most we can hope for is a last minute loan if no one matched their price, though with them selling Murray (they have agreed a fee with Bournemouth) they may well want to hold on to him.
Hooper it is? Would have preferred someone with pace in honesty but decent enough scoring pedigree at this level.
Im hoping against hope that Fulham can do something with Gayle. Would much prefer him to Hooper, pace is something we have a chronic lack of
I would like some pace too, however we are not in the betting now for Gayle
While Bodurov is seemingly the player most supporters would be prepared to see depart, whether or not Burn is better than Hutchinson is a much closer call. I like the attitude of both of them. Based on what I've seen this season, however, I would favour keeping Hutchinson.
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2015, 11:35:25 AM
Anyone think we could be working our way towards a flexible 3-5-2 sort of formation?
With Ream a CB/LB, Mancienne a CB/RB, Fredricks being a RB/RM and Husband and LB/LM, could work well...
How we could look next game:
(http://i59.tinypic.com/nb6xyd.png)
And - without subs - could change to something like:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2nsuafp.png)
I quite like the look of this.
Will Kit be on the same wavelength?
Glenn Murray possibly leaving palace so doubt Gayle will leave too.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on September 01, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
Glenn Murray possibly leaving palace so doubt Gayle will leave too.
I can see them selling both and getting Austin in
From Twitter - Manchester United have agreed a deal to sign highly-rated Newport County defender Regan Poole. Is this the guy we were close to signing in January?
@reluctantnicko: Looks like Forest have scared off Fulham about Mancienne. Williams a good loan. Mendes a mystery. Ogrady a body. #bestofbadjob
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 11:42:11 AM
I'm personally not that bothered if Burn goes. I know some people like him, but top end of League 1 is probably his level.
Burn seemed to be successful at Birmingham in the Championship.
Really want to keep hold of Burn if possible. Still think he could thrive under a proper manager. Let's not forget he was one of the best CBs in the championship only a couple of seasons ago at Birmingham
Any news on the Kone 'deal'?
Are we being strongly linked to any strikers? I've not seen anything myself
Fulham are in talks to sign striker Gary Hooper on loan from Norwich, according to Sky sources.
I'd have preferred Gayle or Rhodes (obviously), but at least its something
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
Are we being strongly linked to any strikers? I've not seen anything myself
Seems Gary Hooper is now our option. Matej Vydra heading to Reading (£2m loan fee), Dwight Gayle seemingly not being allowed to leave (though Aston Villa apparently sniffing, had a "stupid" offer rejected).
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
Any news on the Kone 'deal'?
I thought I heard yesterday or the day before it had been cancelled due to us signing Stearman (and perhaps Mancienne)?
Quote from: FPT on September 01, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
Are we being strongly linked to any strikers? I've not seen anything myself
Seems Gary Hooper is now our option. Matej Vydra heading to Reading (£2m loan fee), Dwight Gayle seemingly not being allowed to leave (though Aston Villa apparently sniffing, had a "stupid" offer rejected).
Ssn saying Gayle may go to Norwich. That may free up hooper to us. I'd prefer Gayle but with PL interest not likely. Can you imagine us chanting "super hooper"? Doesn't sound right.
Loan signings become very confusing. Been suggested that IF Hooper is allowed out on loan he would only want a season long loan. Which means it has to be done today?
"Break the bank" for Rhodes
Him and Ross are both goalscorers and providers/assists
S**t load of goals = A an open top bus along Fulham Palace Road next May
Palace refused a loan of Gayle to Villa for a loan fee of £1.5 mil. Said only interested in a sale at £10 mil. Far too much.
I just pray we keep hold of Ross, that's all I care about right now
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on September 01, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
I just pray we keep hold of Ross, that's all I care about right now
I would be amazed if Ross left. Would take an offer of 15+m plus having Gayle or Rhodes definitely joining.
Vydra seems to be heading to Reading (!!) in a £3.5m loan package deal. Would have preferred him to Hooper to be honnest.
Austin staying at qpr. they have quite the first team if they keep hold of fer and Richards too
Quote from: Swiss72 on September 01, 2015, 03:22:47 PM
Vydra seems to be heading to Reading (!!) in a £3.5m loan package deal. Would have preferred him to Hooper to be honnest.
think that's 2 mil and wages
Should we make a cheeky bid for Austin
Larnell Cole has gone the Shrewsbury until Jan of next year on loan.
Seems we are only looking at Hooper, hopefully we have a back up in case it goes belly up, altho I think we have done well thru this window
Dan Burn is likely to be staying at Fulham
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 04:51:40 PM
Larnell Cole has gone the Shrewsbury until Jan of next year on loan.
That's exactly what he needs, regular game time. There is talent there, he just needs a bit more exposure to first team football
Norwich still having trouble bringing in a striker. May be a problem, may not be for us and Hooper.
I hope the Hooper deal goes through. I've always rated him since his Scunthorpe days. I think he could really add to our attack with him and Ross up top.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 04:53:09 PM
Dan Burn is likely to be staying at Fulham
Pleased if true
Did Norwich sign a striker? Ricky is gone I think, so I can only see Hooper leaving if they have somebody joining in the meantime. Might be out of our hands.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 04:56:33 PM
Norwich still having trouble bringing in a striker. May be a problem, may not be for us and Hooper.
they are getting gayle
they signed Mbokani last night
Sky sources understand Norwich have offered Crystal Palace forward Dwight Gayle a four-year deal at the club.
The clubs are currently discussing a fee for the 24-year-old
Taggert has joined Dundee Utc on loan until January
Surely wouldn't go if we were not bringing in somebody?
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
Taggert has joined Dundee Utc on loan until January
Surely wouldn't go if we were not bringing in somebody?
No good to us at present with lack of match fitness. Dembele' and Woodrow ahead of him, regardless of brining someone in.
On BBC2 reporter said he spoke to Gayle at his home & is not going anywhere.
Still waiting to hear from Norwich over Hooper according to Simon Peach on Twitter.
no rush we have an extra 2 hours, as long as an intent form is sent to the FA signed by both clubs and the player involved. ARe Norwich however concentrating on Dwight Gayle and not on the Hooper exit
guy on sky just said Dwight Gayle move may stop the Hooper move
Simon Peach @SimonPeach 26s27 seconds ago
#FFC & Hooper's agent cannot get hold of the powers that be at #NCFC so looks like this #deadlineday deal is dead
Sarah Brookes @sarahbrookes1 23s24 seconds ago
Ladies and gentlemen, our business is done for the day. #transferdeadlineday
NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY THAT IS IT - OFFICIAL
Shame about Hooper but great window.
GetWestLondon: FFC @FulhamfcNews 20s21 seconds ago
Fulham's bid to sign Gary Hooper has fallen through!
Our business is done "for the day"
So we could still bring in loans or am I wrong in thinking that?
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY THAT IS IT - OFFICIAL
Shame about Hooper but great window.
Oh man, really wanted another striker. Rely too much on Ross...
Reason they could not get hold of Norwich is they have their heads in a panics over the gayle deal. we can still loan him in a couple of days time though
Hoopers agent and Fulham couldn't get in touch with anybody at Norwich so we gave up on the deal. Still have loan window which allows for three months loans but not season long loan we think.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2015, 05:57:58 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY THAT IS IT - OFFICIAL
Shame about Hooper but great window.
Oh man, really wanted another striker. Rely too much on Ross...
Loan window is still open. Norwich or Crystal Palace may be tempted by the prospect of letting Hooper or Gayle come here on loan til January to keep fit/playing. And there's plenty of other decent strikers who teams may allow to head to us on loan.
Keep the faith!
Isn't the loan window for short term emergency loans? Like maximum of 3 months or something?
We can always get Hooper on loan for three months then try again in January
cant believe neither Norwich or us got a deal sheet into the FA
Norwich wanted Gayle, Palace wanted a replacement and couldn't find one and so Norwich couldn't push through Hooper. So the domino effect.
The Loan Window:
When does it open?
The 'emergency loan' window opens next Tuesday September 9.
When does it close?
The loan window shuts on Thursday November 27 with clubs then unable to strengthen until the January window.
Who can use it?
All you Premier League fans thinking you can still bring players in, think again.
But you can ship some of your youngsters out to aid their development.
Football League clubs can use the window to their advantage - and plenty are sure to - with top-flight talent.
No overseas players can be brought in during the window.
How long can the players move for?
The loan deals can last between 28 days and 93 days.
Should clubs agree a three-month deal, it will tie a player down until the New Year and the January window.
Any other rules?
There is one additional rule, which does also apply to Premier League clubs.
Should sides suffer a goalkeeping crisis, they are able to bring in replacements.
These deals are usually seven days and have been used by Everton and Sunderland in recent seasons.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 06:11:36 PM
Norwich wanted Gayle, Palace wanted a replacement and couldn't find one and so Norwich couldn't push through Hooper. So the domino effect.
Not sure Palace did want someone else, I have heard it was what they wanted to pay. Apparently they have signed a deal intent form so it could still happen before 8pm.
Guy at Bournemouth on Sky reckons the Grabban deal is affected by Gayle and not Hooper
Would suggest the following is why we didn't get Hooper, nothing Fulham could do...
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:bump: seeing as the loan window is now open :bump:
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
Quote from: Andyb on September 09, 2015, 07:50:57 PM
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
Nope, overrated probably more than any player in the last five years.
Quote from: MJG on September 09, 2015, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Andyb on September 09, 2015, 07:50:57 PM
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
Nope, overrated probably more than any player in the last five years.
. . . and he has done nothing since he left us in the summer of 2013 just playing 7 league games:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urby_Emanuelson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urby_Emanuelson)
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on September 09, 2015, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: MJG on September 09, 2015, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Andyb on September 09, 2015, 07:50:57 PM
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
Nope, overrated probably more than any player in the last five years.
. . . and he has done nothing since he left us in the summer of 2013 just playing 7 league games:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urby_Emanuelson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urby_Emanuelson)
Case rested
He's played 35 in the league and 44 in all competitions according to that. Not great obviously, but not 7 league games in 2 years bad. In fact, it's really only last season that he didn't get games - and that was at a club who were challenging for the Serie A title, something we're not.
Urby definitely isn't worth what we'd have to pay in wages and signing fee to get but, were he affordable, he'd be plenty good enough to play in this league.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-loan-move-for-norwich-city-striker-after-emergency-loan-window-opens/#GoqCJksU0WWxhXwf.97 (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-loan-move-for-norwich-city-striker-after-emergency-loan-window-opens/#GoqCJksU0WWxhXwf.97)
Wilson is joint derby from United
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Quote from: ollienixs on September 09, 2015, 09:53:38 PM
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He hasn't joined yet, Derby along with 12 other clubs are interested, good club for him though Derby play some good football.
Quote from: mkras99 on September 09, 2015, 09:37:21 PM
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-loan-move-for-norwich-city-striker-after-emergency-loan-window-opens/#GoqCJksU0WWxhXwf.97 (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-loan-move-for-norwich-city-striker-after-emergency-loan-window-opens/#GoqCJksU0WWxhXwf.97)
Hooper would be a great loan signing imo (him or Gayle, but feel Hooper is more likely - won't be disappointed if wrong)
Quote from: God The Mechanic on September 09, 2015, 08:44:06 PM
He's played 35 in the league and 44 in all competitions according to that. Not great obviously, but not 7 league games in 2 years bad. In fact, it's really only last season that he didn't get games - and that was at a club who were challenging for the Serie A title, something we're not.
Apologies. Yes, you are correct. I was misreading the little table at the top and missed the games at Milan.
But the general point still stands. Not great as you say for someone who should be at the peak of their career.
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2015, 10:58:47 PM
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
Me too.
Well we can't have it both ways. If we only have three strikers that are available we need another one. Loan in a player that will become a shoe in to play and Dembele lose out. Bring in a Hooper type and Dembele will still be in the running. But a striker we do need.
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2015, 10:58:47 PM
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
Is Ulloa available, I must have missed that. Would be a great signing.
Quote from: The Moose on September 09, 2015, 10:59:47 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2015, 10:58:47 PM
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
Me too.
Championship trio ready moves for Manchester United man
Championship sides Fulham, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Preston North End are interested in signing Manchester United keeper Sam Johnstone, according to the Daily Mail.
The 22-year-old spent time on loan at Preston last year in League One, helping them to promotion by winning the play-offs, beating Chesterfield and Swindon.
After spending the season at parent club Manchester United, the Red Devils are prepared to loan him out again, with three clubs interested.
However, all three clubs already have goalkeepers on loan at the club, Jordan Pickford at Preston from Sunderland, Joe Lewis at Fulham from Cardiff and Emiliano Martinez at Wolves from Arsenal, meaning it would be rather strange for any of them to take another keeper on loan.
However, Preston may fear that Pickford may be recalled by Sunderland has interest mounts in their young keeper who has wowed scouts this season, keeping a number of clean sheets, helping Preston keep above the relegation zone.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/championship-trio-ready-moves-for-manchester-united-man/#DbRfEukSXLEHBKUm.97 (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/championship-trio-ready-moves-for-manchester-united-man/#DbRfEukSXLEHBKUm.97)