Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 03, 2015, 11:42:27 AMPlease no, cannot get into a poor QPR side, he is too old and past it. :dead horse:
Fulham consider summer move for ex-Chelsea winger
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Kit Symons' Fulham are considering a summer move for former Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips, according to FLW sources.
FLW understands Fulham are targeting a move for Wright-Phillips
FLW understands Fulham are targeting a move for Wright-Phillips
FLW understands that the 33-year-old is being targeted by the west London club as a player who will help the club push for promotion next season.
The former Chelsea and Manchester City midfielder currently plies his trade for Premier League strugglers Queens Park Rangers, however has only managed to amass a mere 124 minutes of football this season.
Wright-Phillips has been at QPR since 2011, but has found first-team opportunities increasingly hard to acquire in recent seasons.
The brother of Bradley Wright-Phillips – Shaun is one of the highest earners at QPR so would seemingly need to take a pay cut to join the Cottagers in a deal this summer.
Whether Wright-Phillips will want to take the step down to the Sky Bet Championship is unknown as of yet, but it could be his only opportunity of first-team football.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-consider-summer-move-for-ex-chelsea-winger/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-consider-summer-move-for-ex-chelsea-winger/)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 03, 2015, 01:39:26 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Quote from: Burt on May 03, 2015, 01:44:01 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on May 03, 2015, 01:39:26 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Blimey... He won't be here long then :dft011:
Quote from: cmg on May 03, 2015, 02:37:38 PM
Excellent. I always look forward to this bi-annual feature. There has been so much rubbish posted on these pages these last few months that it will be nice to see the opening of an officially approved garbage bin.
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I suppose we can't expect some of the high-class flights of fancy of previous years, although I see we have already kicked-off with the barrel scrapings.
I think my favourite from a couple of years ago was when we were solemnly assured that Thiago Alcantara was on his way. He got injured soon after making the baffling decision to go to Bayern instead, but will be seen out this week against Barca.
Although I also liked the rumour that we would get hold of that Central American guy, forget his name now, whose 24 goals and superb creative play had propelled FC Twente to a rare Dutch championship. As if!
Quote from: @jolslover on May 03, 2015, 02:19:13 PM
There is no way we could sign any of those 3 players. Shelvey starts most games for Swansea and has done very well for them this season. No reason he would join Fulham
Quote from: Craven Mad on May 03, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Who the hell linked us to Shelvey?? He's an established prem player coming into his prime - no chance he's coming to us or any other Championship club for that matter..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on May 03, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Who the hell linked us to Shelvey?? He's an established prem player coming into his prime - no chance he's coming to us or any other Championship club for that matter..
Talkpoop, think Hilda the tealady was gosipping with her that
makes Brazils morning cuppa...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 03, 2015, 09:00:49 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
Lets add Robert Huth and we'll become the Stoke of the Championship.
Truth be told, we could use a hard man. We were certainly pushed around a lot this past season.
Quote from: Humbled on May 03, 2015, 09:32:44 PM
defenders that wouldn't cost much if anything at all -
Roger Johnson
Robert Huth
Diakite
Jon Mensah
Alcaraz
Figueroa
Javier garido
Liam Rosenoir
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on May 04, 2015, 08:10:10 PM
Fulham should match my Fifa team & sign
Curtis Davies
Richie De Laet
Tyrone Mings
Vurnon Anita
Sam Byram
Dwight Gayle
That would be good business by the club I think
Quote from: @jolslover on May 04, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Quote from: Fernhurst on May 03, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Barton,Marshell and Shelby----- what a midfield trio
It would match our most famous:
Freeman Hardy and Lewis
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on May 04, 2015, 08:52:31 PMQuote from: Fernhurst on May 03, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Barton,Marshell and Shelby----- what a midfield trio
It would match our most famous:
Freeman Hardy and Lewis
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 04, 2015, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: rogerpinvirginia on May 04, 2015, 08:52:31 PMQuote from: Fernhurst on May 03, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Barton,Marshell and Shelby----- what a midfield trio
It would match our most famous:
Freeman Hardy and Lewis
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on May 04, 2015, 08:34:53 PMTurkish Super Lig, two bob? Most teams would comfortably beat upper Champ sides. Also that's selective stat reading (ie just for this season). His current record is 17 in 64 at Fenerbahce with 17 assists, 24 in 51 at Spartak Moscow with 8 assists (Russian League two bob as well though right?) and 30 in 51 at Karabükspor with 5 assists.Quote from: @jolslover on May 04, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Yeah righto, 4 in 25 in a two bob league hardly suggests he'll tear up the championship
Quote from: TWFL on May 05, 2015, 12:32:56 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on May 04, 2015, 08:34:53 PMTurkish Super Lig, two bob? Most teams would comfortably beat upper Champ sides. Also that's selective stat reading (ie just for this season). His current record is 17 in 64 at Fenerbahce with 17 assists, 24 in 51 at Spartak Moscow with 8 assists (Russian League two bob as well though right?) and 30 in 51 at Karabükspor with 5 assists.Quote from: @jolslover on May 04, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Emenike would be unreal. He would destroy the championship. Cant see it happening personally as cant see him dropping to the champ and also his wages would be very high
Yeah righto, 4 in 25 in a two bob league hardly suggests he'll tear up the championship
But we could just write him off now before watching him right?
Quote from: westcliff white on May 05, 2015, 08:25:46 AMif he read this board he would have a permanent strop.
I get you point there MJG.
Emenike may not be too bad a signing given his form for Nigeria, however if he takes fan criticism to heart then he would hardly play for us given some of the antics and criticisms on this board at times.
Quote from: westcliff white on May 06, 2015, 01:10:28 PMTotally agree, act sooner rather than later in whatever we are doing but we do like to drag things out and leave it late
we cannot afford to wait till August before we make our moves.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 06, 2015, 03:09:56 PM
Apparently we are after Jay Emmanuel Thomas out of contract at
Bristol City, Birmingham also after him according to todays rumour monger
Red Tops...
Quote from: @jolslover on May 07, 2015, 11:04:10 AMMike Rigg told a fan that FFC were monitoring a player, blooming heck that's a change from our normal way of doing things
Heard it from Rigg himself. He said "Monitoring" So may not actually mean anything
Quote from: westcliff white on May 07, 2015, 12:15:01 PMQuote from: @jolslover on May 07, 2015, 11:04:10 AMMike Rigg told a fan that FFC were monitoring a player, blooming heck that's a change from our normal way of doing things
Heard it from Rigg himself. He said "Monitoring" So may not actually mean anything
Quote from: cmg on May 07, 2015, 02:11:22 PM
....and as soon as the signature's on the contract his right leg will drop off.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 07, 2015, 03:11:23 PMQuote from: cmg on May 07, 2015, 02:11:22 PM
....and as soon as the signature's on the contract his right leg will drop off.
But...he will be ft to play next week...(And repeat until end of season! )
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 09, 2015, 09:38:03 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
That's about 3 years old...
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:39:43 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on May 09, 2015, 09:38:03 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Reports eminating from Italy this morning have suggested that Fulham are one of the interested parties looking to sign Pablo Osvaldo from Roma.
The Gazzetta Dello Sport have reported that Walter Sabattini is in London to negotiate with Arsenal on the sale of Gervinho to Roma, but is also looking to push through the sale of Pablo Osvaldo who has fallen out with team mates and fans in Rome.
With the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham interested it would seem strange for Fulham to get hold of Osvaldo, even more so when you consider that he turned down a move to Southampton as they were not a 'high profile' club.
That's about 3 years old...
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Fulham (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Championship/Fulham)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 09, 2015, 09:53:46 PMLOL, I didnt realise that would happen. I'm just moving articles around and didnt know that would happen.
Please ignore. Looks like Viva el Fulham has been hacked, or churning out old articles.
Quote from: spikey norman on May 15, 2015, 07:36:06 AM
According to one newspaper today Fulham are preparing a £5 millin pound bid for Demarai Gray from Birmingham
Quote from: spikey norman on May 15, 2015, 07:36:06 AM
According to one newspaper today Fulham are preparing a £5 millin pound bid for Demarai Gray from Birmingham
Quote from: cmg on May 15, 2015, 09:22:37 AMWell said.
Whatever you might think of him as a player, Bryan comes across as one hell of a nice guy.
Far less talented players than him would have thrown the toys out of the pram long before now.
I know he is getting well paid, I know it is partly down to his weaknesses that teams haven't been falling over themselves to sign him and I know that this extension is probably just a device so that we (quite rightly) realize a bit of dough on, him but he has always conducted himself in a professional, dignified fashion. Good luck to him, whatever might lie ahead.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 15, 2015, 09:13:51 AM
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 17, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Rumour Round-Up: The Latest Fulham Transfer Gossip
The Sun are reporting that Fulham are readying a £7 million bid for Birmingham youngster Demarai Gray - the 3rd source to report this rumour
Fulham are believed to have bid a second time for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk. Fee is believed to be £750k.
Fulham, Charlton Athletic and Brentford are interested in taking former MK Dons star Dele Alli on loan next season, reports MK Web.
Emmanuel Emenike has rejected the chance to play his football in Qatar next season and has been linked with Fulham.
Portsmouth star, Jed Wallace is a transfer target for Fulham & Wolves this summer.
French press are linking Fulham and Seville with former Middlesborough midfielder, Didier Digard.
Lasse Vigen Christensen has shut down Aston Villa rumours by commenting on his long term commitment to the Whites.
Fulham and Nottingham Forest will battle it out to sign Bolton defender Matt Mills
http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip (http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip)
Quote from: phil_magnus on May 17, 2015, 08:07:39 PM
18 year old Nigerian striker, Kelechi Iheanacho, was linked to Fulham last night on Twitter by a user called 'Scouts in Attendance.' The user claimed 4 Fulham scouts had been in attendance watching the striker.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 17, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Rumour Round-Up: The Latest Fulham Transfer Gossip
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The Sun are reporting that Fulham are readying a £7 million bid for Birmingham youngster Demarai Gray - the 3rd source to report this rumour
The 18-year-old burst onto the scene for Birmingham City this year, playing in 35 games, a tremendous achievement at such a young age. He has recently been called up to train with the England under-21s but has also been linked with a £5-7million deal to the Cottagers. Gray has a year left on his contract and has attracted significant interest from the Premier League new-boys, Bournemouth, who have had three bids rejected already whilst Liverpool and PSV Eindhoven are also, reportedly, in the reckoning.
Fulham are believed to have bid a second time for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk. Fee is believed to be £750k.
Sky Sources believe that Fulham had a bid rejected earlier on in the week, but have since upped their offer to £750k. This is still surprising, as the defender is valued above £4m in many eyes. He is just one of many youngsters which Fulham are keeping tabs on. The Rams are also reported to be keen on the 23-year-old centre-back, along with Championship rivals Fulham. Brighton are said to be keen to keep hold of one of their brightest prospects, who signed a four-year contract with his hometown club last summer. Dunk has made more than 100 appearances for the Seagulls, having come through the youth ranks. He played 44 games this season and scored seven goals.
Fulham, Charlton Athletic and Brentford are interested in taking former MK Dons star Dele Alli on loan next season, reports MK Web.
The 19-year-old joined Tottenham Hotspur in a £5 million deal in February but was allowed to spend the rest of the season at stadium MK, where he helped the club win promotion to the Championship on the last day of the League One season. But Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino may be willing to let the midfielder go out on loan for another season to further develop his footballing education. The Argentine will run the rule over Alli once he joins up with the squad for pre-season training. Alli came through the youth ranks at MK Dons and went on to score 24 goals in 88 appearances.
Emmanuel Emenike has rejected the chance to play his football in Qatar next season and has been linked with Fulham.
Fenerbahce want to offload Nigerian international Emmanuel Emenike in part exchange. If the name is familiar, this was the same Emenike that demanded to be substituted after being booed by his own fans during their 1-0 home win over rivals Besiktas in March. Emenike, is in his second spell at the club, has only scored four goals in 25 Turkish Super League appearances this season. He joined Fenerbahce in 2011 but was linked to a match-fixing scandal, though later cleared and joined Spartak Moscow before playing a game for the Istanbul club. He then rejoined in 2013 for a reported £10.2 million.
Portsmouth star, Jed Wallace is a transfer target for Fulham & Wolves this summer.
The contract Wallace signed last summer contains a transfer fee release clause, with Fulham, Ipswich and Wolves among those showing interest. The newly-appointed Blues boss met the 21-year-old at the club's training ground on Wednesday afternoon in an attempt to clarify his future. There would also be a transfer fee involved, with the youngster's contract clause believed to be worth £275,000.
French press are linking Fulham and Seville with former Middlesborough midfielder, Didier Digard.
The 26 year old, 6ft defensive midfielder only made 32 appearances for Boro before going to Nice on loan and then joining on a permanent transfer. Digards contract only has 1 year left before he's available on a free so his fee shouldn't be too high. With so many of Fulham's midfielders running out of contract in the summer, expect this to be one of many links for players across the centre.
Bryan Ruiz has been linked to a £4.3m move to Porto, Sporting Lisbon or Benfica despite having his contract extended by Fulham
It is believed that the Cottagers will be seeking a transfer fee of anything in excess of £5million pounds for the 29-year-old, who still has a lot to give in the professional game as a creative midfielder eager to cement his ability in one of Europe's top leagues again. His new contract means he is contracted with Fulham until June of 2016, and although it was reported he was set to leave the club last summer to La Liga outfit Levante, the loan-to-buy move fell through.
Lasse Vigen Christensen has shut down Aston Villa rumours by commenting on his long term commitment to the Whites.
Speaking to West London Sport, 20-year-old Christensen has admitted that his future lies with Fulham, despite interest in him from Villa this season. "It would have been stupid for me to go in January. I'd only just got in the team and I still have lots to learn and do. I heard a bit from the lads [about the Villa rumours] but there was no way I was going to leave in January. "I've been at this club for a fairly long time and when you're connected to a club you want to see them do well. I want to see Fulham back in the Premier League. That's all I'm thinking about."
Fulham and Nottingham Forest will battle it out to sign Bolton defender Matt Mills
Get West London is reporting that Bolton Wanderers and Instagram's own Matt Mills has been discussing a free transfer move to either Nottingham Forest or Fulham. Mills, who joined the Super Whites for £2m in 2012, is believed to be on the brink of cutting ties with the club in the hope of improving his reported £18,000 a week salary. He almost joined the London side on loan after Christmas, but such was his initial form under Neil Lennon that the ex-Celtic boss was reluctant to let him go. Mills' dreadful form in the last three months however has seemingly softened the manager's position on the player.
http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip (http://cottagersconfidential.sbnation.com/2015/5/17/8613979/rumour-round-up-the-latest-fulham-transfer-gossip)
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 03, 2015, 01:39:26 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on May 03, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
David Marshall....Joey Barton...Jonjo Shelvey..
According to Talkpoop...
I would take all 3 as long as there's a clause in Bartons contract to leave if he's a pr*ck.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on May 19, 2015, 10:16:12 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Why on earth would McCormack leave one dump in Leeds, finally get settled in the lovely Fulham area and then move to Wolverhampton! Ha.
Surely we wouldn't sell our only asset to a league competitor.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AMThat's from the ever reliable transfer rumours website, was it billy bob who posted it I can't remember
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
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Pete O'Rourke @SportsPeteO
Fulham lead Wolves in the race to sign Portsmouth midfielder Jed Wallace. #ffc #wwfc #Pompey http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/19/fulham-winning-the-race-for-wallace/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/05/19/fulham-winning-the-race-for-wallace/) ...
Quote from: phil_magnus on May 19, 2015, 08:33:58 PM
Jed Wallace is the type of signing we should be making. Young talented and ambitious. Be glad to have him on board.
Rigg has bottled the Kit decision seemingly.
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
Quote from: Roberty on May 21, 2015, 10:50:32 AMAgree, I said on the other thread that its just paper talk. Hopefully we do not miss out.Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
Depends which news report you believe - given the reliability of journalists he is probably going to end up in the A League
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 19, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
18 May 2015 17:05:44
Wolves and Fulham are close to agreeing a deal that will see Kevin McDonald and Carl Ikeme join Fulham and Ross McCormack move to Molineux. Wolves will also pay £2m to Fulham as well. Expect this deal to go through in early June.
Quote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:58:56 AMQuote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Stekelenburg - Couldn't give a toss about Fulham, came for the money, went out on loan to Monaco, won't play for us ever again.
Berbatov - Class, but jumped ship as soon as the going got tough, was never a team player. Again, couldn't give a flying toss about Fulham, he came because of Jol.
Mitrogolou - Lets not even go there
Cassasola - Don't know why you've even brought this lad up?
Parker - at 34 he's always going to come to Fulham for 55k a week.
Quote from: alexbishop on May 21, 2015, 11:57:15 AMQuote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Yea those guys all worked out really well for us.. ;)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:58:56 AMQuote from: God The Mechanic on May 21, 2015, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on May 21, 2015, 11:34:01 AMQuote from: westcliff white on May 21, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Seems we are missing out on Wallace
And you're surprised? Story of our lives over recent seasons.
Like how we missed out on Stekelenburg, Berbatov, Mitroglou, Cassasola, Parker. All of those were highly sought by bigger clubs than us, yet we still got them. How they did is irrelevant, they chose us over others when the transfers were being done.
Stekelenburg - Couldn't give a toss about Fulham, came for the money, went out on loan to Monaco, won't play for us ever again.
Berbatov - Class, but jumped ship as soon as the going got tough, was never a team player. Again, couldn't give a flying toss about Fulham, he came because of Jol.
Mitrogolou - Lets not even go there
Cassasola - Don't know why you've even brought this lad up?
Parker - at 34 he's always going to come to Fulham for 55k a week.
Quote from: cmg on May 15, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Whatever you might think of him as a player, Bryan comes across as one hell of a nice guy.
Far less talented players than him would have thrown the toys out of the pram long before now.
I know he is getting well paid, I know it is partly down to his weaknesses that teams haven't been falling over themselves to sign him and I know that this extension is probably just a device so that we (quite rightly) realize a bit of dough on, him but he has always conducted himself in a professional, dignified fashion. Good luck to him, whatever might lie ahead.
Quote from: FPT on May 22, 2015, 12:54:52 AM
Just putting it out there, I don't like the Silly Season Transfer Thread, too much clutter, not quite sure why it's a thing but get on with it I suppose!
Quote from: cmg on May 22, 2015, 10:27:19 AMQuote from: FPT on May 22, 2015, 12:54:52 AM
Just putting it out there, I don't like the Silly Season Transfer Thread, too much clutter, not quite sure why it's a thing but get on with it I suppose!
Haha, FPT. But just imagine what it would be like if all these pieces of junk got their own thread.
I rather like to see the most outrageous 'rumour' of the season. Thiago Alcantara was the best of the past few years, although, in many ways, the Dimitar Berbatov one was just as unlikely.
Look on it as a garbage dump, through which you can scavenge for suitable pearls.
Quote from: westcliff white on May 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Think they hav just gone up this season
Quote from: cmg on May 22, 2015, 10:39:55 PMyes a little town, like Sassuolo, near Modena. Interesting that both have managed to reach Seria A. However, even if Carpi was intended in the article, they have, as yet, no experience whatever of Serie A.Quote from: westcliff white on May 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Think they hav just gone up this season
Yes, they won Serie B. But it's CARPI not Capri. It's a small town in Northern Italy about 30 miles from Bologna, not the little island off Naples.
Quote from: gerrys on May 22, 2015, 10:45:18 PMQuote from: cmg on May 22, 2015, 10:39:55 PMyes a little town, like Sassuolo, near Modena. Interesting that both have managed to reach Seria A. However, even if Carpi was intended in the article, they have, as yet, no experience whatever of Serie A.Quote from: westcliff white on May 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Think they hav just gone up this season
Yes, they won Serie B. But it's CARPI not Capri. It's a small town in Northern Italy about 30 miles from Bologna, not the little island off Naples.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 23, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
1 May 2015 23:22:59
As reported in the press this evening Fulham are working hard to bring in Diagouraga from Brentford but also want Leon Britton, Tom Cairney & Matt Jarvis
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
QPR, Derby and Fulham target move for Swansea defender
QPR, Derby County and Fulham are reportedly targeting a move for versatile Swansea City defender Jazz Richards.
The 24-year-old only has a year left on his contract at the Liberty Stadium, and could look for a move away from the club after failing to hold down a regular first-term spot.
The Wales international, who can play either of the full-back roles or in midfield, spent the second half of the 2014-15 season on loan at Fulham, where he made 14 appearances, and they are keen to bring him to Craven Cottage permanently.
However, they will face competition from QPR and Derby, who are also looking to strengthen their squads for promotion pushes next term.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 26, 2015, 07:09:25 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
QPR, Derby and Fulham target move for Swansea defender
QPR, Derby County and Fulham are reportedly targeting a move for versatile Swansea City defender Jazz Richards.
The 24-year-old only has a year left on his contract at the Liberty Stadium, and could look for a move away from the club after failing to hold down a regular first-term spot.
The Wales international, who can play either of the full-back roles or in midfield, spent the second half of the 2014-15 season on loan at Fulham, where he made 14 appearances, and they are keen to bring him to Craven Cottage permanently.
However, they will face competition from QPR and Derby, who are also looking to strengthen their squads for promotion pushes next term.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/qpr-derby-and-fulham-target-move-for-swansea-defender/)
No thanks we got our Jack...
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Fulham prepare summer bid for Sheffield United forward
Sky Bet Championship outfit Fulham are interested in a move for Sheffield United forward Jamie Murphy, according to FLW sources.
Murphy has only just signed a contract extension in January but could be set for a move down south, and FLW understands Fulham are keen to bring in the Sheffield United forward on a permanent basis.
Deployed as a winger or striker, Murphy creates goals and scores them too which is something that that Fulham have been struggling for all season, even with the signings of 42 goal pair Ross McCormack and Matt Smith.
As the club look to bring in players that have more knowledge of the Football League and are capable of securing a higher place in the league next season, Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
The 25-year-old Scottish national is said to be happy at Bramall Lane, but is still looking for the regular first team football that he came to England for.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-prepare-summer-bid-for-sheffield-united-forward/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-prepare-summer-bid-for-sheffield-united-forward/)
Quote from: FPT on May 26, 2015, 07:55:07 PM
Hahahaha just from the Jamie Murphy one.
"Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
The 25-year-old Scottish national is said to be happy at Bramall Lane, but is still looking for the regular first team football that he came to England for."
Sheer poor journalism, no surprise considering it's from a blog monster.
Quote from: Asotosyios on May 26, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Fulham boss Kit Symons is seemingly wanting to add English talent to his very diversely European side.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 23, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
1 May 2015 23:22:59
As reported in the press this evening Fulham are working hard to bring in Diagouraga from Brentford but also want Leon Britton, Tom Cairney & Matt Jarvis
QuoteDan Crawford @dancrawford85
Fulham are keen on midfielder Ben Pringle, who is leaving Rotherham on a free transfer: http://bit.ly/1BnWRud (http://bit.ly/1BnWRud) #ffc
Quote from: Deuce on May 27, 2015, 04:33:04 AMQuoteDan Crawford @dancrawford85
Fulham are keen on midfielder Ben Pringle, who is leaving Rotherham on a free transfer: http://bit.ly/1BnWRud (http://bit.ly/1BnWRud) #ffc
Good, reliable source
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 27, 2015, 08:36:10 PMtraore is a shocking player. grimmer is already better
Why this Queens Park Rangers defender should be a target for Fulham
(http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/traore-300x214.jpg)
Newly contracted boss Chris Ramsey is set for a major squad reshuffle and Armand Traore has been told he can now find a new club, with the Championship looking like a viable option.
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
The former Arsenal youth prospect is still contracted to QPR for another season but could be let go on a free to save on wage costs.
Since joining from Arsenal in 2011, Traore has been a regular feature in the QPR side that has been both promoted and relegated twice and now it seems that Traore will call time on his Loftus Road career.
25-year-old Traore has made 17 appearances for the already relegated side. Predominantly a left back of winger and has the talent to push forward and challenge the opposition fullbacks.
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore, with his astronomical wage demands and the fact that Stafilidis is set to depart the club on loan.
Other clubs that could take a gamble on Traore are newly promoted Bournemouth and Watford, who will be looking for players with Premiership experience and will be able to afford his demands.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/)
Quote from: f321ffc on May 27, 2015, 08:42:57 PMthat and he cant defend means hes nailed on to be starting for us
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore with his astronomical wage demands. fp.gif
Who the hell wrote this sh!te 064.gif
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 27, 2015, 08:36:10 PMSeriously, who writes cr*p like this.....
Why this Queens Park Rangers defender should be a target for Fulham
(http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/traore-300x214.jpg)
Newly contracted boss Chris Ramsey is set for a major squad reshuffle and Armand Traore has been told he can now find a new club, with the Championship looking like a viable option.
Traore looks set to depart QPR this summer
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore, with his astronomical wage demands and the fact that Stafilidis is set to depart the club on loan.
Other clubs that could take a gamble on Traore are newly promoted Bournemouth and Watford, who will be looking for players with Premiership experience and will be able to afford his demands.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/ (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/why-this-queens-park-rangers-defender-should-be-a-target-for-fulham/)
Quote from: f321ffc on May 27, 2015, 08:42:57 PM
Fulham could be the perfect spot for Traore with his astronomical wage demands. fp.gif
Who the hell wrote this sh!te 064.gif
Quote from: westcliff white on May 27, 2015, 09:44:47 PM
Tarrabt could do a job for someone in the championship if he lost his ego
Quote from: cmg on May 27, 2015, 09:59:05 PMVery true indeed, I did say if LOLQuote from: westcliff white on May 27, 2015, 09:44:47 PM
Tarrabt could do a job for someone in the championship if he lost his ego
....along with a couple of stone in weight. Both equally unlikely.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
Can't see DwightQuote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 30, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
Quote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 09:02:50 AMits a non starter, if kit couldnt control david, then imagine what adel would do to himQuote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
Quote from: fulhamben on May 30, 2015, 09:48:08 AMQuote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 09:02:50 AMits a non starter, if kit couldnt control david, then imagine what adel would do to himQuote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 10:00:06 AMQuote from: fulhamben on May 30, 2015, 09:48:08 AMQuote from: CincyFulham1 on May 30, 2015, 09:02:50 AMits a non starter, if kit couldnt control david, then imagine what adel would do to himQuote from: @jolslover on May 28, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
Taarabt good player, Ripped apart the champ for QPR. Would do it again. But would never come back to Fulham or drop down to the champ
I would take Armand Traore, although Husband is probably a better option
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/13648196)
He's a waste of space and is f***ed in the head. Don't need or want him within a hundred miles of us. Wonder if he caught the bus back to Rabat.
I don't think we would even consider him as a target, but someone will. Qpr has too many of the "just happy to keep getting my salary every week" players. Some have mentioned SWP as a target and he has a bad attitude just like Adel. The only QPR playrers I would want would be Austin, Phillips and Fer.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on May 31, 2015, 10:15:07 PM
Reply To Above Rumour
29 May 2015 21:42:56
Fulham are set to bid 3.6m for Tom Cairney of Blackburn Rovers & have also bid 2.8m for Brightons Lewis Dunk.
The whites will complete a deal early next week for Jazz Richards from Swansea.
Dwight Gayle is also a target for the whites
BillyBob86
30 May 2015 09:44:32
It's very rare that your rumours are correct but I would love to see Lewis Dunk sign. At first I though Cairney wouldn't be good but at 24 I hope he signs for Fulham. Fulham need to get these deals done quickly though. There's better right backs than Jazz Richards.
Gayle will go to Wolves or Bournemouth.
RTFFC
30 May 2015 11:07:25
If true and your January rumours were poor bb so I'm a little doubtful but the first 2 are brilliant. Didn't rate Richards to be honesy. Felt he was clueless positionally. I imagine gayle would be a loan
adamjonesio
30 May 2015 18:44:59
Hi Adam
My source has changed at FFC, the new one joined in March and is very high up.
We are after some class players.
BillyBob86
31 May 2015 08:29:34
He's a family friend
BillyBob86
31 May 2015 11:58:36
Billy Bob I hope you're correct just not too optimistic. I'm good friends with dunks brother and he has confirmed fulhams interest
RTFFC
31 May 2015 21:27:51
I'm genuine mate, Dunk is wanted bad at Fulham , hope he joins, tell his bro we will have a whip around in the rocket for him lol.
Cairney to Fulham all but done just a medical to come.
Quote from: MJG on May 31, 2015, 10:31:12 PM
Blackburn are in trouble finances wise, so will sell if the offers come in.
They seem to do whatever they can to keep Rhodes and just keep his wages high while selling others.
3-5 for decent championship players is about right I'd say.
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 01, 2015, 09:23:14 AMQuote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Judge him when he's played with some protection infront of him. Refuse to write him off when we've played such an awful system that doesn't benefit full backs...or anyone else for that matter.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 01, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
Wolves fans seem to think that losing Stearman to us would be a loss.
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=93369 (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=93369)
Nearing the end of his contract, so would be available cheap... I think we could do far worse.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 01, 2015, 09:23:14 AMNope sorry, seen enough footballers in my time to know hes not for me.Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 06:35:54 AM
I can't really begin to describe how bloody unhappy I would be with Jazz(I'm only here because I'm welsh) Richards joining us.
Judge him when he's played with some protection infront of him. Refuse to write him off when we've played such an awful system that doesn't benefit full backs...or anyone else for that matter.
Quote from: grandad on June 01, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
If Berbatov goes to Bournemouth they will regret it for ever more. Doubt he would want to play in front of 12K every other game any way.
Stekelberg can come back but only as a No. 2 in place of PJ´s.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PMOne problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
Quote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 05:27:41 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PMOne problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:30:58 PMQuote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 05:27:41 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PMOne problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
Haha I just don't rate Bettinelli as high as most people here do. Think he gets better reviews as he's young and English.
+ think Stearman would be a very good signing as well for not much money.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on June 01, 2015, 06:09:22 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:30:58 PMQuote from: MJG on June 01, 2015, 05:27:41 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on June 01, 2015, 05:25:33 PMOne problem with that scenario, who goes in goal on the hour in the first game when his glass shoulder cracks ?
I'll get berated for this but would prefer to see Stek starting in goal next season than Bettinelli.
Loan Betts out to a league 1 team for a season to improve his positioning (particularly for long range shots) as no matter how good he was, he did let a few in that should be saved. Stek was regarded as one of the best keepers in the world about 4 years ago just need to get him fit and healthy (which he admittedly hasnt been for a while). Wages would be the only issue which is why I do think we'll sell him.
Haha I just don't rate Bettinelli as high as most people here do. Think he gets better reviews as he's young and English.
+ think Stearman would be a very good signing as well for not much money.
Gareth Southgate doesn't rate him very highly either, that's why he's in the England U21's squad!
Quote from: andersons11 on June 02, 2015, 01:19:03 AM
:hook:Berbatov has been released by Monaco. 086.gif
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 01, 2015, 08:24:19 PM
I too am a great fan of Marcus and very proud he has been selected for our country.
To attempt an ascent of the North face of a top 6 position we do however require a big old gnarled keeper with a commanding presence and a booming voice.
This time around we need many more matches men v men.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 02, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
02 Jun 2015 05:59:14
Philip Senderos on his way back to Fulham
from Villa
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 02, 2015, 11:57:43 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on June 02, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
02 Jun 2015 05:59:14
Philip Senderos on his way back to Fulham
from Villa
I read this today: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-full-back-set-top-9369499 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-full-back-set-top-9369499) and wondered whether we are interested in Lowton to be our RB.
"...Lowton may be on the move with a number of Championship clubs showing an interest..."
Not sure how I feel about the chance of Senderos coming back.
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 03, 2015, 11:29:26 AMRight now he has 2 years left on his deal so he is not a former Fulham keeper
Southampton closing in on signing of former Roma goalkeeper
Southampton are reportedly closing in on the signing of former Roma and Fulham goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg.
The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer following his release from Monaco this week, which has alerted Saints boss Ronald Koeman, who knows the stopper from his spell at Ajax.
Number one keeper Fraser Forster isn't expected back until October at the earliest because of injury, and with Kelvin Davis considered too old and Paulo Gazzaniga too inexperienced, the Dutchman wants a new man between the posts.
Stekelenburg has 54 caps for the Netherlands, and could be one of two new goalkeeper arrivals at St Mary's this summer.
http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-closing-in-on-signing-of-former-roma-goalkeeper/ (http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-closing-in-on-signing-of-former-roma-goalkeeper/)
Not sure how accurate/trustworthy that is saying he is available on a free transfer.
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 03, 2015, 11:54:57 AM
With regards that Stekelenburg article, yes he's been linked with them but look at the wording :
'former...Fulham keeper'
'The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer following his release from Monaco this week'
Really!?
What dreadful reporting - he's not available on a free, and he most certainly was not 'released' by Monaco as he wasn't their player.
Dear oh dear...
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 03, 2015, 12:14:51 PM
Fulham bid for Brighton star Lewis Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Fulham have made a bid for Brighton defender Lewis Dunk.
Fulham boss Kit Symons has made a new central defender one of his top targets this summer and has already made a bid for Wolverhampton Wanderers stopper Richard Stearman.
Symons is also an admirer of Dunk and is understood to have tabled a £2 million offer for the 23-year-old as he looks to bring him to Craven Cottage.
Derby County have also been credited with an interest, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by tabling a firm offer for the centre-half.
Brighton are keen to keep hold of one of their prize assets, with Dunk only signing a new four-year deal last summer.
Dunk, who has come through the ranks at Brighton, is regarded as one of the best young defenders outside the Premier League after catching the eye at the Amex Stadium.
Dunk has made more than 100 appearances for the Seagulls and was a virtual ever-present last term making 44 appearances and scoring seven goals.
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/03/fulham-bid-for-brighton-star-lewis-dunk/ (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/06/03/fulham-bid-for-brighton-star-lewis-dunk/)
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM? 35 year old 3 rd division keeper a replacement for betts, i dont see it.
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM? 35 year old 3 rd division keeper a replacement for betts, i dont see it.
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:11:08 PMgiven is nearly 40 so thats nothing to brag aboutQuote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM? 35 year old 3 rd division keeper a replacement for betts, i dont see it.
Seems odd making a move for Forde unless Bettinelli is off
Also ahead of Shay Given as Ireland's starting GK
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PMmaybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PMmaybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
Quote from: Fulhamerica23 on June 05, 2015, 06:52:34 PMyou need to back a page, it was suggested he might be a replacement for betts. thats the debateQuote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PMmaybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
Second choice goalkeeper on a free. I don't get why people are questioning this and are up in arms about it. He might make an appearance or two if he signs.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PMmaybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 07:04:54 PMQuote from: Fulhamerica23 on June 05, 2015, 06:52:34 PMyou need to back a page, it was suggested he might be a replacement for betts. thats the debateQuote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PMmaybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
Second choice goalkeeper on a free. I don't get why people are questioning this and are up in arms about it. He might make an appearance or two if he signs.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 05, 2015, 07:07:36 PMhe did, but betts will get better whilst forde will decline.Quote from: fulhamben on June 05, 2015, 06:46:56 PMQuote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 06:27:19 PMmaybe, but he will be on the decline now, and he let in a lot of goals last season and got relegated. if we were to lose betts and stek and end up with forde, i for one wont be impressed. wont be suprised but certainly not happy
He's a goalkeeper though, same way Schwarzer was decent into his late 30's
And Betts didn't let in a lot did he?
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 08:34:40 PMhavent milwall released him though? so thats possibly not an option for him
I wasn't suggesting I'd rather Forde to Betts just find it odd Forde would rather sit on the bench here and lose his International place than play weekly at Millwall
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 08:34:40 PM
I wasn't suggesting I'd rather Forde to Betts just find it odd Forde would rather sit on the bench here and lose his International place than play weekly at Millwall
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2015, 12:36:42 AMwhos billy bob?
05 Jun 2015 20:37:23
Pringle has signed for Fulham, will be announced over the weekend. Rejected Ipswich, Bolton & Leeds to join the whites .
BillyBob86
Quote from: Pie and mash on June 05, 2015, 11:46:57 PMBut could get crunched in tackles.
Pringle has a crisp pass on him.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 06, 2015, 12:38:52 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on June 06, 2015, 12:36:42 AMwhos billy bob?
05 Jun 2015 20:37:23
Pringle has signed for Fulham, will be announced over the weekend. Rejected Ipswich, Bolton & Leeds to join the whites .
BillyBob86
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His name is Billy Bob. Do you really expect someone with that name to be reliable? Lol
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 06, 2015, 01:18:37 PM
Sepp Blatter and Jack Warner have both signed on frees for San Quentin FC. To be announced in the coming months.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 07, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
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Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 07, 2015, 05:38:37 PMOnly positive if we have someone to play on the other wingQuote from: Friendsoffulham on June 07, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
Mark Hill retweeted
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BREAKING (Kinda): Fulham have completed the signing of Ben Pringle and the deal will be announced in the next 2... http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ (http://dlvr.it/B7LDsZ)
A positive first signing...wasn't McCormack our first last time though...oops!
Quote from: Nero on June 07, 2015, 05:41:38 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on June 07, 2015, 05:38:37 PMOnly positive if we have someone to play on the other wingQuote from: Friendsoffulham on June 07, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
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A positive first signing...wasn't McCormack our first last time though...oops!
Quote from: fulhamben on June 08, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
12 goals in 9 years, sounds like a real steal
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 08, 2015, 11:35:51 AMfair enough, I just looked at wikiQuote from: fulhamben on June 08, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
12 goals in 9 years, sounds a real steal
Well, he scored 14 last year alone according to that image so that's not quite right...
Quote from: @jolslover on June 08, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
Disagree, Look at clubs who have signed strikers from the Italian second division. Antenucci got 10 goals for Leeds this season, I believe it is a good thing we are looking at foreign talent as it tends to be much cheaper than the English equivalent
Leeds got Becchio from the Spanish second division, Brighton got Ulloa from the Spanish second division. We should be looking at leagues like this and scouting far and wide for potential bargains
Quote from: FPT on June 08, 2015, 04:13:24 PM
If they'll reject £2.5m, I don't think there's *much* more we can do. Probably £3.5m max for me. If I'm honest with you, I'd be half tempted to offer them Ryan Tunnicliffe in a part exchange, but that's just me.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 08, 2015, 04:16:36 PMQuote from: FPT on June 08, 2015, 04:13:24 PM
If they'll reject £2.5m, I don't think there's *much* more we can do. Probably £3.5m max for me. If I'm honest with you, I'd be half tempted to offer them Ryan Tunnicliffe in a part exchange, but that's just me.
We were never going to get one of their prize assets for 2.5 million, regardless of how hard up they are. Said a while ago, although we're looking to be sensible, there's also looking stupid. The 1 point something million we bid for Stearman of Wolves was embarrassing and quite rightly laughed off.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 08, 2015, 02:34:42 PMin that case go for Simoneandrea Ganz top scorer for Como, on loan from A.C., who are 2 nil up after the first leg in the play-off for promotion to Serie B.........by the way his dad is Maurizio Ganz who scored a sackfull of goals for Udinese, Inter and A.C.
Disagree, Look at clubs who have signed strikers from the Italian second division. Antenucci got 10 goals for Leeds this season, I believe it is a good thing we are looking at foreign talent as it tends to be much cheaper than the English equivalent
Leeds got Becchio from the Spanish second division, Brighton got Ulloa from the Spanish second division. We should be looking at leagues like this and scouting far and wide for potential bargains
Quote from: westcliff white on June 08, 2015, 09:06:56 PMthat is actually what I said.....
Ganz is owned by AC Milan not como he is on loan there
Quote from: gerrys on June 08, 2015, 09:12:48 PMapologies i meant ownly co-owned by AC, Italy have these strange co ownership rules.Quote from: westcliff white on June 08, 2015, 09:06:56 PMthat is actually what I said.....
Ganz is owned by AC Milan not como he is on loan there
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 08, 2015, 04:22:52 PMAbout as ridiculous as taking Frank Large and a bit of cash in exchange for Alan Clarke.
Had to laugh on the Transfer Rumours Site, some fella put up
Carlton Cole to Fulham in exchange for Ross...Hillarious
Its been taken down, some must dream them up at night.
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 09, 2015, 06:47:58 AM
We have bid 1.2m for Tom Lees of Sheff Wed apparently and it has been turned down.
Do we think we are trying to bring in two CBs or just spraying the bids around to test the water?
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMAgree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Quote from: westcliff white on June 09, 2015, 12:35:52 PMHaving been an estate agent for a time I was in that position many times...."I'll say it quietly but that couple talking to my colleague are going to make a bid on the house you like...so how much do you want to bid?"Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMAgree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
Quote from: westcliff white on June 09, 2015, 12:35:52 PMCompletely off track, but the worst thing for an estate agent is they put a property on and the first viewer offers asking price. Thats an absolute disaster in so many ways.Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMAgree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:55:35 PMi would tend to agree, however the guy making the offer was there with his wife and kids and when the agent got off the phone he and his wife were very downhearted, which is why i think they actually didnt know, that and then they had the finance guy come over and try to see if they could stretch further.Quote from: westcliff white on June 09, 2015, 12:35:52 PMHaving been an estate agent for a time I was in that position many times...."I'll say it quietly but that couple talking to my colleague are going to make a bid on the house you like...so how much do you want to bid?"Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMAgree MJG, although for the house we live in now I did bid asking price with the first bid, but only because I was sitting in the estate agents when the bid of another person (2k below asking price) was rejected. I just said they need to make a decision inside 10 minutes or I pull out, took a chance the other people would not make another bid. Thankfully the 2 agents in the shop didnt talk to each other, not even sure that they realised both people in the shop were wanting the same property.
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
But I do agree bid below then go up as you may get below the price stated and below what your willing to pay
All above board of course.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PMLOL never mind things change hehe
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PMSorry...
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 01:25:46 PMQuote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PMSorry...
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Well we missed out on Darren bent.
That's Better lol 082.gif
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 01:25:46 PMI think he will do well at Derby, they will play a passing game and get the ball in front of him just how he likes it. Martin on the other hand may not suit Clements style if the teams he has coached for have influenced him.Quote from: Tooting legend on June 09, 2015, 01:06:08 PMSorry...
I am sorry I thought for a minute that this thread was for transfer rumours. Not the confessions of an Estate agent lol. fp.gif
Well we missed out on Darren Bent
Quote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMDepends how much you want or need that 'house'
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
Quote from: Chesh on June 09, 2015, 01:37:30 PMQuote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMDepends how much you want or need that 'house'
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
We are in desperate need for quality centre backs, as give or take one or two (only) decent games each, Hutchinson, Burn and Bodurov are just not up to it.
More often than not we lose the player by fannying around, and should have a minimum £7-8 million budget for two decent quality centre backs, as they are the foundation of a successful season (as opposed to the collapsible mess we have at the moment)
Quote from: Classic94 on June 09, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
These rumours are very promising to be fair - Lees, Dunk, Stearman... are exactly the kind of players we should be looking at. Hopefully we up our bids.
Quote from: Twig on June 09, 2015, 02:23:32 PMQuote from: Classic94 on June 09, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
These rumours are very promising to be fair - Lees, Dunk, Stearman... are exactly the kind of players we should be looking at. Hopefully we up our bids.
I agree, they are the sort of players we should be trying to sign. There is time to up our bids if that is what it takes. Within reason I don't mind waiting. My only concerns are i. we don't lose out in every case to other bolder clubs ii. I have said many times that I think it is essential that the majority of our first choice squad is in place for some of the pre season friendlies. It is very damaging when players are thrown together to build a team in the first competitive league matches.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 09, 2015, 05:14:19 PM
Get him in the Door.
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
I just want to cry if we sign him
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PMYou would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:18:03 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PMYou would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:20:05 PMI dont know how many, you tell me as its the stat you have brought up?Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:18:03 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PMYou would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:22:28 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:20:05 PMI dont know how many, you tell me as its the stat you have brought up?Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:18:03 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PMYou would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:32:09 PMI make no bones about it, I'm a Grimmer fan. But on the other thread I have given my reasons why I dont rate Richards firstly as a player and then as again not balancing the squad out.Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:22:28 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:20:05 PMI dont know how many, you tell me as its the stat you have brought up?Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:18:03 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:08:52 PMYou would not have said that about Richards if you saw his appalling rash tackles against Watford at their place.
Sorry but Grimmer has atleast one rash poorly timed challenge in the box every game in his locker. Not sure what people see in him other then he's ours. Jazz on the other hand I thought acquitted himself well.
I was there but that was one game. How many pens did Grimmer concede and how many should he have had? I remember Bournemouth away where he conceded one and should have another two if my memory serves me correct
I'm not trying to start an argument with you but you are being far to over protective over Grimmer.
We will conceivably be left with one right back someone who can play in this league on either side for 500k is a bargain and will do little to effect the transfer budget that will be utilised elsewhere
Not seeing the down side of
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PMOf course I'm asking
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:45:16 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PMOf course I'm asking
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on June 09, 2015, 01:41:48 PMQuote from: Chesh on June 09, 2015, 01:37:30 PMQuote from: MJG on June 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PMDepends how much you want or need that 'house'
So anyone who says the bids are low, if you have bought a house have
You always put in the asking price as the first offer?
We are in desperate need for quality centre backs, as give or take one or two (only) decent games each, Hutchinson, Burn and Bodurov are just not up to it.
More often than not we lose the player by fannying around, and should have a minimum £7-8 million budget for two decent quality centre backs, as they are the foundation of a successful season (as opposed to the collapsible mess we have at the moment)
I can't help but think you are being massively unrealistic for Championship budgets, championship players and indeed for a period of time so early in the window.
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:49:16 PMSo the other 7 were Stafylidis thenQuote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:45:16 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PMOf course I'm asking
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
Quote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:51:56 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:49:16 PMSo the other 7 were Stafylidis thenQuote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:45:16 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PMOf course I'm asking
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 02:03:28 PMI'm joking really I dont know how many he gave awayQuote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:51:56 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:49:16 PMSo the other 7 were Stafylidis thenQuote from: MJG on June 10, 2015, 01:45:16 PMQuote from: WestCountryWhite on June 10, 2015, 01:40:08 PMOf course I'm asking
Haha you wanted me to tell you how many pens but you are busy asking the twittersphere if anyone knows. Does it really matter? I think Grimmer is rash you think Richards is rash. Let's shake hands and move on
Will be interesting to see I believe it was 3 and Richards 1
Didn't realise we had given that many away to be honest He must make up for the majority of them now there's a rash player.
Quote from: alexbishop on June 10, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Surely for each position we need the following:
1st Choice
Cover
Apprentice
So the argument here is where do Grimmer/Richards fit into this structure. Is Grimmer still the apprentice or is he now genuine cover? If he is cover, then Richards would be 1st choice which IMO is not good enough. Perhaps Kit still considers Grimmer the apprentice and sees Richards as cover and is still looking to bring in a 1st choice.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 10, 2015, 04:48:16 PMif you have the same manager and players that were shocking from january onwards, then what will you expect to change in the next season. jazz played lots of games for us and we were getting worse not better. decent fee for a defender who was part of the worst defence in the league? cheap option that doesnt make us any better is a more accurate description
Richards isn't amazing, but hes not really bad either. Decent signing considering fee and the fact that he can cover Right/Left back. Dont understand what all the fuss is about. Not many RB's available that we could get for cheaper
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 10, 2015, 01:36:45 PMYes I quite fancy being called Jazz Crilly
Jazz is a great name though, perhaps that is what Kit sees in him.
I think the lad has potential.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 10, 2015, 09:01:23 PM
according to Greame Bailey on twitter (ex sky man) we are launching a bod for Daryl Murphy
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Quote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 11:59:30 AMQuote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Quote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 12:55:18 PMQuote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 11:59:30 AMQuote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Whilst both of these players have potential to provide the required creativity from midfield, neither will provide adequate protection for our back four. They are playmakers, not destroyers. We need an intelligent defensively minded player who can hold their position in front of the back four and win the ball back.
Quote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 01:33:16 PMQuote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 12:55:18 PMQuote from: Roberty on June 11, 2015, 11:59:30 AMQuote from: alexbishop on June 11, 2015, 08:52:25 AMQuote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
It really bothers me when people/the club are so black and white. So when we are leaking goals 'we need new defenders' and when we aren't scoring goals 'we need new strikers.'
As you have rightly pointed out, much of goals conceded come from a lack of decent cover in midfield (with our defensive midfielder Parker unable to hold his position in front of the back 4 and without the legs to provide that cover).
Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Having Hyndman and LVC fit and back in the team would probably solve that problem but of course they will need back-up
Whilst both of these players have potential to provide the required creativity from midfield, neither will provide adequate protection for our back four. They are playmakers, not destroyers. We need an intelligent defensively minded player who can hold their position in front of the back four and win the ball back.
Yes - BUT - what you said was Failure to score goals also comes from a lack of creativity in midfield. So if we lose players like Ruiz and if we want McCormack to stay up front, then where is that creativity going to come from?
Quote from: Skatzoffc on June 11, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Surely its the midfield we need to be looking at. I've said before we have never adequately filled the Murphy void. That's where I want the money spent.
We have strikers for days imo.
Quote from: Holders on June 11, 2015, 08:42:32 PMDon't forget Lee Clarke and John Collins - both excellent midfielders!
If Murphy was the belated Mullery replacement, how long must we wait for the next real "midfield general"?
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 11, 2015, 09:49:06 PM
All over twitter that we are very close to closing deals for both Bolton keeper andy Lonegan and palace striker dwight gayle. Have not got a link just on Twitter.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 11, 2015, 11:34:54 PMQuote from: Tooting legend on June 11, 2015, 09:49:06 PM
All over twitter that we are very close to closing deals for both Bolton keeper andy Lonegan and palace striker dwight gayle. Have not got a link just on Twitter.
We've got more chance of getting Dwight York. Why would Palace sell their 6 million pound marque signing, who was of late, was just coming into his own and banging in the goals? He could quite easily go out on loan to a Norwich or Biurnemouth type Club next season.
Because 2 weeks ago Palace said that they will selling him as hes not wanted
Quote from: ollienixs on June 12, 2015, 12:11:30 AM
Gayle would literally be the best thing we could ask for, the guy will never be a world beater but he has an eye for good and pace, a better Beckford
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Quote from: grandad on June 12, 2015, 11:37:52 AMMaybe, but he's had the last laugh with a five year contract at Benfica
Adel Taarabt has been released by the Hahas. Such a waste of talent. Similar situation to Collins John.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 12, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
They generate massive amounts from sponsorship etc that's how. Chevrolet and Aon pay huge amounts for having their names on the first team and training kits. Plus the Adidas deal is worth even more per season
Quote from: grandad on June 12, 2015, 03:58:33 PM
Manure have lashed out another £31 mil & they will still not win anything. How can a club with so much debt be able to spend such sums. I know their income is vast but this is just not right.
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on June 12, 2015, 11:04:17 PM
Just seems links of Orlando Sa being on the radar of Reading. Did we really give this guy a chance? He played a few games. Scored on good goal against Norwich, and possibly knocked us out of the Europa League but his record since he has left isn't too bad: 18 goals or something.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2015, 09:46:29 AMhe will fit right in with this attitude. one to put on the dont touch list methinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955)
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
Quote from: fulhamben on June 13, 2015, 10:19:06 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2015, 09:46:29 AMhe will fit right in with this attitude. one to put on the dont touch list methinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955)
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
Quote from: cmg on June 13, 2015, 03:54:23 PMomg, he is a shoe in for fifa president when he hangs up his boots. this is def one to put on the dont touch list.
Emmanuel EmenikeQuote from: fulhamben on June 13, 2015, 10:19:06 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on June 13, 2015, 09:46:29 AMhe will fit right in with this attitude. one to put on the dont touch list methinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31991955)
@TFS_Fulham: Turkish reports suggest that Fenerbahce and Fulham are discussing a swap deal for Mitroglou and Emenike. #FFC... http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM (http://t.co/hFW63dRZyM)
Well, he would certainly be a challenge!
Have a read of his Wikipedia entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Emenike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Emenike)
Reads like the outline for a movie script (Idris Alba to star). Even if there were some element of truth in half of it he would represent the kind of risk we might not want to take.
Be interesting, though.
Quote from: ollienixs on June 12, 2015, 12:11:30 AM
Gayle would literally be the best thing we could ask for, the guy will never be a world beater but he has an eye for good and pace, a better Beckford
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Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AMgive them parker smith and tunni if they just want some english players
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AMyes so we can buy some more jazz richards. id sell every player we had before selling pat. and if we had a decent manager, pat would probably play more
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on June 14, 2015, 09:20:54 AMQuote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Based on last season I actually think he would be mad not to go. Probably get a massive pay rise and wont play much but he played very little football here anyway. Somehow I think learning off of the likes of Aguero/ Silva will develop him more than having a cameo every so often to give the likes of Kavanagh a rest. Worst ways City will loan him somewhere he will actually get games unlike what he gets here. From the outside it looks like he has been managed terribly and deserved a fairer crack at it
Obviously had he featured as much as LVC did or even the amount Grimmer played then he would be foolish, just like Rodwell and Sinclair were. Difference is Pat isnt even a squad player here so I wouldnt blame him for leaving. Also think fulham could have got a lot more if we actually played him. Just one or two goals and an occasional bit of magic would have added value, so if the figure is 10million then fulham only have themselves to blame. You cant blame City for trying their luck
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 14, 2015, 09:56:54 AMbut knowing our crap lot, they would loan him back and expect us to be happy about itQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on June 14, 2015, 09:20:54 AMQuote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Reports & Tweets are gathering pace about Man City wanting Roberts to swell their home grown ranks. Reports mention up to £10 million with add ons.
Multiply that by 5 & we might give it some thought.
Someone needs to talk some sense to the lad. He would not get a sniff of a game let alone be in their 25 man squad.
Based on last season I actually think he would be mad not to go. Probably get a massive pay rise and wont play much but he played very little football here anyway. Somehow I think learning off of the likes of Aguero/ Silva will develop him more than having a cameo every so often to give the likes of Kavanagh a rest. Worst ways City will loan him somewhere he will actually get games unlike what he gets here. From the outside it looks like he has been managed terribly and deserved a fairer crack at it
Obviously had he featured as much as LVC did or even the amount Grimmer played then he would be foolish, just like Rodwell and Sinclair were. Difference is Pat isnt even a squad player here so I wouldnt blame him for leaving. Also think fulham could have got a lot more if we actually played him. Just one or two goals and an occasional bit of magic would have added value, so if the figure is 10million then fulham only have themselves to blame. You cant blame City for trying their luck
I agree with most of what you sat, however i still think that Pat would have more game opportunities here, it's unlikely he would see the light of day at a big club..
Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 09:53:51 AMQuote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AMyes so we can buy some more jazz richards. id sell every player we had before selling pat. and if we had a decent manager, pat would probably play more
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
Immature reply so we can buy more Ashley Richards get a life.......He's demanding more game time well 50% of game time before he signs a new deal, a 18 year old throwing around demands. Cash in Fulham get rid simple!
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 10:02:49 AMQuote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 09:53:51 AMimmature? so you would sell your best assets because they want to play? and kit hasnt been very good with player aquisitions to date, so what good will cash do us. no doubt we will sell mitro ruiz and stek too. so why do we need the cashQuote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AMyes so we can buy some more jazz richards. id sell every player we had before selling pat. and if we had a decent manager, pat would probably play more
I am fed up of hearing about the lad. Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated, and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen. Cash in now Fulham.
Immature reply so we can buy more Ashley Richards get a life.......He's demanding more game time well 50% of game time before he signs a new deal, a 18 year old throwing around demands. Cash in Fulham get rid simple!
Quote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AMand thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
I am fed up of hearing about the lad... Cash in now Fulham.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
Take the 10million plus add ons, he's overrated...
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
...and apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season, isn't going to happen.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
Quote from: grandad on June 14, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
I don´t believe that for one moment. No way would Roberts would even get near the bench this coming season. Also it wasn´t mentioned if this 50% would be for 1st team, U 21´s, U 18¨s or loaned out.
Quote from: grandad on June 15, 2015, 09:52:23 AM
Not good when this topic is relegated to page 2.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 15, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
Apparently QPR have made a late bid for Pringle.
Quote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
Quote from: McBride78 on June 15, 2015, 02:38:27 PMQuote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
This makes no sense. Why would any team agree to 50% of games before you have earned the right to start? Especially Man City where he is no where near ready. If he can walk into Man City's squad for 50% of thier games then his price should reflect that and we should ask for 30 million (I am being a smart ass, but seriously this rumor has to be rubbish, no?)
Quote from: cmg on June 15, 2015, 04:37:42 PMQuote from: McBride78 on June 15, 2015, 02:38:27 PMQuote from: cmg on June 14, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by the original rationale. Is it not true that Manchester City can have as many under 21 players of any nationality in their squad as they want. The 'home grown' rule only applies when they are over 21. Roberts is 18. What have I missed?Quote from: Tooting legend on June 14, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
apparently he's dad has said he will only sign a new contract if he plays 50% of games this season
'Apparently' Pellegrini has already agreed to play Roberts in 50% of games. It has yet to be decided if this will mean he will start half the games or whether he will play a half in all games (and then whether this will be the first or second half).
This makes no sense. Why would any team agree to 50% of games before you have earned the right to start? Especially Man City where he is no where near ready. If he can walk into Man City's squad for 50% of thier games then his price should reflect that and we should ask for 30 million (I am being a smart ass, but seriously this rumor has to be rubbish, no?)
Oh dear, oh dear. I have to admit total failure here.
Of course it's rubbish.
I thought I had made it quite clear by the use of 'Apparently'. Obviously I was wrong.
I have long poured scorn on here on reports that such and such a player has a 'must start' clause in his contract. I have always maintained that this would not even be practically possible and that no club would compromise themselves in this way.
I was, in what appears now to be a ham-fisted and ineffectual way, suggesting that I did not believe for one moment that Pat Roberts' father was insisting that the lad started 50% of the games. I do not believe that he would do so. Nor do I believe that any club would countenance such a proposal. Nor do I really believe that a top PL club would allow an untested 18 year old to pick and choose what games he plays in.
I thought that the depressing way in which every half-arsed rumour, however ludicrous, is instantly swallowed as if gospel truth needed a corrective. I was obviously wrong.....Or possibly right.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 15, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
15 Jun 2015 10:19:39
Seems as though QPR are now in for Pringle, matched FFC offer and are talking to him personally this week
westcliff white
15 Jun 2015 13:15:04
He's having a medical this minute - don't believe me? Go down to MP now - Lonergan & O'hara are there too.
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
So reading this is it correct that Pringle, Lonergan and Jamie O'Hara are having medicals....Where's O'Hara come from this is new?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 15, 2015, 07:39:01 PMNot sure what our saying as no message, but I was saying that the first one was a twitter message and the other from some website. neither were anything to do with me, I was just relaying the info
15 Jun 2015 10:19:39
Seems as though QPR are now in for Pringle, matched FFC offer and are talking to him personally this week
westcliff white
15 Jun 2015 13:15:04
He's having a medical this minute - don't believe me? Go down to MP now - Lonergan & O'hara are there too.
Cairney will sign in the near future - fee agreed with Blackburn & personal terms agreed.
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Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 10:13:54 AMQuote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AMand thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
Quote from: Roberty on June 16, 2015, 12:05:44 PMI think the Manager has an awful lot to do with it.Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 10:13:54 AMQuote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AMand thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
What has our manager got to do with it ?
It would take an act of God to stop him signing for City or one of the other top clubs if they were interested
He's got an agent - a football agents job is to get sell his clients services to the highest bidder - club loyalty counts for nothing
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 16, 2015, 02:40:06 PMI tend to agree with Lighthouse on this, but also if one club is willing to pay him 10-15k per week and we offer only 5k then the kid will go with the money. That isnt the managers fault.Quote from: Roberty on June 16, 2015, 12:05:44 PMI think the Manager has an awful lot to do with it.Quote from: fulhamben on June 14, 2015, 10:13:54 AMQuote from: MJG on June 14, 2015, 10:11:35 AMand thats where a decent manager would of come in handy. one with a track record who could convince him we will be going up.
Quite simply he either signs the new contract and stays or we sell if he doesn't, it's as easy as that.
What has our manager got to do with it ?
It would take an act of God to stop him signing for City or one of the other top clubs if they were interested
He's got an agent - a football agents job is to get sell his clients services to the highest bidder - club loyalty counts for nothing
If he had been played last season he may not want to go this!
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Quote from: FPT on June 16, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 16, 2015, 09:53:58 PMQuote from: FPT on June 16, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
What an incredibly rational post. I've had a feeling we would lose him especially down to lack of game time but was suprised at how much it disappointed me when I read his move was close to going through. I actually posted something similar to this but far less eloquent a while ago and your post has brought me back from being disappointed to being realistic. It's a shame would couldn't have watched him playing his best in the first team but what can you do?
Quote from: BedsFFC on June 16, 2015, 10:38:46 PMQuote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 16, 2015, 09:53:58 PMQuote from: FPT on June 16, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
As I see it, our academy was invested heavily in to benefit the club in this respect. We cannot attract the sponsorship deals of those above us, but what we can do is create an academy built in the right way to mould a conveyor belt system which we've already somewhat seen. This way, our profits allow us to strengthen elsewhere. If Patrick Roberts does not want to sign a contract, the chances are that his mind will not be changed in the next 12 months and we would receive less on a compensation deal. We sell Patrick Roberts for the quoted £10m, we can put a bit into the transfer pot, a bit towards the academy and a bit towards the contract negotiations of Emerson Hyndman, Moussa Dembele and Marcus Bettinelli. With sponsorships and financial gain in the Championship at a damaging low where it's near impossible to profit, the sale of Patrick Roberts (someone who does not wish to play for Fulham) will go a long way.
Southampton sold Theo Walcott, that gave Nathan Dyer an opportunity to play. Then Adam Lallana was brought in whilst also keeping the football club afloat whilst a young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was making gains before being sold in 2011. If we look at the big picture, we brought Kerim Frei up as part of the first wave of Huw Jennings' academy tutelage with Alex Kacaniklic, after them were Patrick Roberts (who hasn't really played least we forget) and George Williams. Patrick Roberts leaving does open a gap for Ange-Freddy Plumain who has been excellent at Under 21 level this year, finishing as our top goalscorer.
The question was asked last week about which academy players do you find most important to extending their deal, I didn't reply I've spoken to him 'privately' in discussion saying that Roberts was last. He's the money maker for his eye catching highlight reel and (in my opinion) Patrick has the style of play least guaranteed to reflect onto the professional game. He's a sleight player that runs with the ball, how many of those do you see in the English game? You could argue that he's unique, but you could also argue the same as many did with Kerim Frei that he's a one trick pony (despite his young age). Patrick could rule the world, but he'd need to adapt his game for me and if Manchester City want to pay us £10m to take him despite the possible downfalls and lack of impact on the professional game thus far, plus one year on his contract and the looking like he doesn't have an interest in signing it....
At the end of the day, it makes business sense to sell a player that doesn't wish to stay so we can build a squad that can battle for the upper reigns of the Championship. Southampton have produced, sold and improved. Porto have for over ten years and Benfica to a lesser extent. Once we're in the Premier League it'll be easier to keep these young stars because we'll be making more so we can offer more. Right now, with this player and in our situation, we'll take the cash and run because it's not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do.
What an incredibly rational post. I've had a feeling we would lose him especially down to lack of game time but was suprised at how much it disappointed me when I read his move was close to going through. I actually posted something similar to this but far less eloquent a while ago and your post has brought me back from being disappointed to being realistic. It's a shame would couldn't have watched him playing his best in the first team but what can you do?
I just want a player in a fulham shirt to make me proud. One that I can rave about to my chelsea supporting mates. The ones that have conveniently reminded me that they have read on the net that we have lost our golden boy to man city.
You know, I love Fulham FC, but I really hate soccer.
Apparently, I should be happy that we have made £5m....
Quote from: mikestrand on June 17, 2015, 02:45:37 AM
Lets give Kit a real chance and get some decent players in quick enough to give him the time needed to prepare a winning team.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
Quote from: Chutney on June 17, 2015, 08:35:47 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Quote from: Chutney on June 17, 2015, 08:35:47 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Quote from: alexbishop on June 17, 2015, 08:43:33 AMI think its a good sign that we are aiming for those type of players that have interest from PL clubs. We wont get them all but a few might slip our way.Quote from: Chutney on June 17, 2015, 08:35:47 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 17, 2015, 06:08:25 AM
Another one gone then..According to reports this morning
Lewis Dunk off to Newcastle. ..
How can he be gone if we never had him?
Another rumoured transfer target gone to a club that is not us.
The optimists will say we were never interested. The pesemistics will say we let another target get away.
We were probably interested but the player will go for the Premiership club of course. Next down on the shortlist...
Quote from: HamsterWheel on June 15, 2015, 05:16:27 PM
No chance of Hangeland returning - he's signed for another year at Palace.
http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/national/13333117.Hangeland_pens_new_Palace_deal/ (http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/national/13333117.Hangeland_pens_new_Palace_deal/)
Quote from: westcliff white on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PMInvest in a cake shop in New Malden if he joins
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
Quote from: MJG on June 17, 2015, 01:43:34 PMQuote from: westcliff white on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PMInvest in a cake shop in New Malden if he joins
from sky sports...
11:39
O'HARA IN DEMAND
QPR, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and Blackpool are the four clubs battling to sign out-of-contract midfielder Jamie O'Hara this summer, according to London 24.
O'Hara's short-term contract at Blackpool ended earlier this summer and the midfielder is assessing his options.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 17, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
17 Jun 2015 06:02:50
Joey Barton in Shock Fulham move. can't see it myself.
Bunny Rabbit
17 Jun 2015 10:08:59
Id be happy if he signed!!
RTFFC
Quote from: Ordar on June 17, 2015, 05:39:09 PMBetter than the majority of our current CMs granted (and that's not hard), but the bloke is a liability whenever it takes his fancy, and it's all about him over anything else.
I wouldnt mind Barton myself. Better than the majority of our CMs
Quote from: Ordar on June 17, 2015, 05:39:09 PMI agree. He seems to have cut out the controversy and would be a leader with a strong personality, both of which we're lacking.
I wouldnt mind Barton myself. Better than the majority of our CMs
Quote from: McBride78 on June 17, 2015, 08:24:37 PM
Agree on Barton. Experienced and would improve the team. Would be a good signing for the championship.
Ohara - no thanks.
Need defense......where are the rumours linking us to some defenders?
Quote from: Luffy86 on June 17, 2015, 08:46:12 PM
It'd be nice to hear some decent transfer news though, I think most would agree! It's so boring being a Fulham supporter at times..
Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 07:47:07 AMNot surprised, once again badly handled at times. Had a great ten minute cameo in one game towards end if season and then dumped for rest of it.
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2015, 07:54:49 AMexactly, we should be keeping this kid - he will be the new SahaQuote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 07:47:07 AMNot surprised, once again badly handled at times. Had a great ten minute cameo in one game towards end if season and then dumped for rest of it.
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
He will be the real deal as a striker in a year or two
Quote from: ollienixs on June 18, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
Jog on then dembele
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
not seen that one Mince, where is it from?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 18, 2015, 08:20:09 AMQuote from: MJG on June 18, 2015, 07:54:49 AMexactly, we should be keeping this kid - he will be the new SahaQuote from: westcliff white on June 18, 2015, 07:47:07 AMNot surprised, once again badly handled at times. Had a great ten minute cameo in one game towards end if season and then dumped for rest of it.
07:24
WATCH: DEMBELE ON FUTURE
Fulham striker Moussa Dembele says he's unsure he wants to remain at the club next season. He has one year left on his contract.
Everton are among several clubs being linked with him.
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/ (http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/)
He will be the real deal as a striker in a year or two
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 18, 2015, 05:12:54 PM
Dembelle will be like Saha in a couple of years, so we'll be mad not to tie him down. However, we've taken the cheaper option in Woodrow, who coludn't even tie Dembelle's boots.
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 18, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
Your totally bang out of order for that comment that you made Wearethewhites. Your slating a current player who has just committed is future to the club, against a player that may want to leave.
It's bang out of order, and I hope that ever Fulham fan agrees with me. BANG OUT OF ORDER!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Tooting legend on June 18, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
Your totally bang out of order for that comment that you made Wearethewhites. Your slating a current player who has just committed is future to the club, against a player that may want to leave.
It's bang out of order, and I hope that ever Fulham fan agrees with me. BANG OUT OF ORDER!!!!!!!!
Quote from: malcbridger on June 19, 2015, 06:55:55 AM
Weimann joining club with ambition and a good young manager, Fulham probably didn't even realise his availability?!
Quote from: Ordar on June 19, 2015, 09:44:10 AM
Weimann will be a great signing at this level. Derby really strengthening. Got to be favorites for the league again next year
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMHe's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMJust have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Quote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Quote from: The Moose on June 19, 2015, 10:57:29 AMQuote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMHe's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Quote from: Roberty on June 19, 2015, 11:27:45 AMQuote from: The Moose on June 19, 2015, 10:57:29 AMQuote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMHe's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Oh good - so poached egg on toast for everyone after training :005:
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2015, 11:00:01 AMQuote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMJust have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Quote from: cookieg on June 19, 2015, 12:08:54 PMQuote from: MJG on June 19, 2015, 11:00:01 AMQuote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMJust have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
And when we do sign someone he will be slated before he even kicks a ball as another clubs cast off.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 19, 2015, 12:15:41 PMQuote from: cookieg on June 19, 2015, 12:08:54 PMQuote from: MJG on June 19, 2015, 11:00:01 AMQuote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMJust have to get used to when a signing at ANY championship club goes through someone somewhere will say..."Why didn't we go for him?" and as you showed, there are reasons why he possibly was of no interest at all.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
And when we do sign someone he will be slated before he even kicks a ball as another clubs cast off.
I think people are entitled to an opinion based on players who have kicked a ball for other clubs though no? If you don't rate/like a player for any other club and he joins Fulham, I don't think immediately you need to slate/praise him. Give him a chance, yes but if we bought in a player in a position I think we're already covered in, and I don't particularly rate him, i'd say as much. And that's not slating the player really (unless hes a misogynist/racist/some form of criminal offence), that's more of a punt at the transfer policy at the club.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 19, 2015, 11:29:12 AMQuote from: Roberty on June 19, 2015, 11:27:45 AMQuote from: The Moose on June 19, 2015, 10:57:29 AMQuote from: snarks on June 19, 2015, 10:49:30 AMHe's a good poacher, he'll score goals.
Weinmann hasn't really cut it at Villa, and TBH whilst I rate him as a prospect in the championship, who of the current strikers at Fulham would you leave out for him? Ross does the job better. He isn't a target man like Smith, doesn't have Cauleys work rate or Moussa's potential.
Slagging off the club for not making a signing they don't need or were after is slightly nonsensical IMHO.
Oh good - so poached egg on toast for everyone after training :005:
If I could post a picture of tumbleweed without too much effort...I would.
Quote from: Ordar on June 19, 2015, 01:13:05 PM
Derby arent messing about. Getting the squad together early. Makes sense with the new manager. Weimann is the only one they've signed that I'd have taken. Maybe Carson as backup
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 19, 2015, 01:34:48 PM
What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 19, 2015, 01:36:55 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on June 19, 2015, 01:34:48 PM
What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
I will attempt this again in the next couple of days..
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 19, 2015, 01:34:48 PM
What the hell are we exactly doing to try an rectify last seasons train crash fp.gif
Quote from: westcliff white on June 19, 2015, 07:09:28 PMDon't think it's worth the risk. His knee is a ticking time tomb. Plus he's over 30.
Ryan Taylor is talking to Standard Liege now having lived in Belgium for 3 years the standard is not ant betterthan the Championship so would he be worth a punt? He can play in a variety of positions on the left as well.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 03:38:51 PM
Hoping to get 8 million according to Talk Nonsense,be lucky
If we get 5 me thinks...
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on June 20, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
I'm hearing something going around about Jamie O'Hara
Quote from: Riverside on June 20, 2015, 04:27:05 PMI would have gone for Guthrie but in all honesty there is a fag paper of difference between them in some ways.
O'Hara I guess would be instead of Guthrie . I thought Guthrie looked decent .Given a choice between the 2 who would those you have seen O'Hara play more than me prefer ?
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 08:17:09 AMRtf
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
Quote from: spikey norman on June 20, 2015, 05:35:58 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 08:17:09 AMRtf
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
According to another report today Italian clubs Udinese and Sassuolo have entered race to sign Mitro which could spark bidding war
Quote from: Asotosyios on June 20, 2015, 06:14:44 PMQuote from: spikey norman on June 20, 2015, 05:35:58 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on June 20, 2015, 08:17:09 AMRtf
Costalot off to Ferenbache according to papers..
According to another report today Italian clubs Udinese and Sassuolo have entered race to sign Mitro which could spark bidding war
Udinese v Sassuolo for Mitroglou
Udinese and Sassuolo are tussling with Fenerbahce for Fulham striker Kostas Mitroglou.
Sport Mediaset suggest there is a bidding war going on between the three clubs for the Greek international.
The 27-year-old spent this season on loan at Olympiacos, where he scored 19 goals in 34 competitive matches.
He'll return to Fulham next month, but seems eager to move on again.
In Serie A there is interest from both Udinese and Sassuolo, while Turkish side Fenerbahce are seemingly prepared to offer wages worth €2m per season.
http://football-italia.net/68030/udinese-v-sassuolo-mitroglou (http://football-italia.net/68030/udinese-v-sassuolo-mitroglou)
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on June 20, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
Have to say Jamie O'Hara would be a decent pick up but am getting slightly concerned with all these free transfer signings
Quote from: WestCountryWhite on June 20, 2015, 11:58:10 PMQuote from: JackyFulham90 on June 20, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
Have to say Jamie O'Hara would be a decent pick up but am getting slightly concerned with all these free transfer signings
Why? Decent frees with no money spent. We still need a left back two centre backs, two wingers and a striker. The more we save in some positions means we get to spend more in others
Quote from: colinwhite on June 21, 2015, 08:03:21 AMWould need to be our third now Colin
We need a decent ,strong athletic ,defensive midfielder who can play . That would be my first signing.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on June 21, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
Diagouraga from Brentford??
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
Quote from: cmg on June 21, 2015, 01:45:48 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on June 21, 2015, 02:11:42 PMQuote from: cmg
link=topic=47501.msg679649#msg679649 date=1434890748Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
I would add that it also probably only matters to a minority of supporters.
Several players have moved between the clubs: Jimmy Hill came from and John Fraser went to Brentford, for example, both only playing for those two clubs.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on June 21, 2015, 02:30:06 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on June 21, 2015, 02:11:42 PMQuote from: cmg
link=topic=47501.msg679649#msg679649 date=1434890748Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
I would add that it also probably only matters to a minority of supporters.
Several players have moved between the clubs: Jimmy Hill came from and John Fraser went to Brentford, for example, both only playing for those two clubs.
Disagree, a lot of Fulham fans just dont realise how much Brentford despise us. Jimmy Hill, John Frazer donkeys year before the current rivalry occured.
Benham would incur a lot of heat from Brentford fans if any of their better players came to us, but hes a businessman so reckon he would sell if price was right .Think we would have to pay over the odds for any Brentford player though
Quote from: cmg on June 21, 2015, 01:45:48 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on June 21, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
We'll be very hard pushed to temp any players away from Brentford, simply down down to the rivalry aspects.
I don't think these matters, important as they are to supporters, effect footballers' choices in any way.
Maybe in Glasgow - but even then there are exceptions.
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on June 21, 2015, 03:39:58 PM
[Trivia question: Which player crossed the Old Firm divide (Rangers to Celtic) via Fulham?]
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 21, 2015, 04:01:39 PM
21 Jun 2015 10:50:45
Blackburn Rovers Tom Cairney is set to join Fulham for £3.2 million.
FFC99
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 21, 2015, 06:35:30 PM
Is he a Fulham target?
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 21, 2015, 04:44:52 PMwhere is that from
Watford have had a 7million bid for Peroti of Genoa accepted.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 21, 2015, 06:48:31 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on June 21, 2015, 04:44:52 PMwhere is that from
Watford have had a 7million bid for Peroti of Genoa accepted.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 21, 2015, 08:57:01 PMIf they get him that could be shrewd businessQuote from: westcliff white on June 21, 2015, 06:48:31 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on June 21, 2015, 04:44:52 PMwhere is that from
Watford have had a 7million bid for Peroti of Genoa accepted.
Now on the BBC website.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 22, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
Fulham have not improved their offer to Roberts but will not sell unless a bigger fee is forthcoming from City.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on June 22, 2015, 01:45:44 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on June 22, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
Fulham have not improved their offer to Roberts but will not sell unless a bigger fee is forthcoming from City.
Source?
Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
Spurs are apparently willing to loan DeAndre Yedlin for the season, he maybe worth a look at if we need a right back
Quote from: FPT on June 22, 2015, 03:51:28 PM
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/afc-wimbledon-transfer-news-arsenal-9503647 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/afc-wimbledon-transfer-news-arsenal-9503647)
Fulham, alongside Arsenal and Brighton, looking at 18 year old Ryan Sweeney from AFC Wimbledon. Republic of Ireland U18 international with two games in League Two to his name.
Won't affect the first team, but still interesting none-the-less.
Quote from: Barrett487 on June 22, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
Besitkas the latest team to be linked with Mitroglou
After reports of Fenerbahce leading the way for the signature of Mitroglou, followed by Udinese and Saasuolo showing an interest, Besitkas are the latest club to be linked. Besitkas signed Demba Ba from Chelsea last season and after scoring 27 goals in all competitions, Shanghai Shenua are rumoured to be tempting Besitkas to sell Ba with a bid in excess of EU 12 million.
With Besitkas likely to sell with an offer of that size, it means they're currently on the look out for a centre forward and Turkish press are this morning reporting that Besitkas have turned to Mitroglou as Ba's replacement. The reports are stating that Fulham are trying to recoup as much of the alleged GBP 12 million we paid for Mitroglou as possible, but that we are open to loan offers. With a loan fee of EU 2.5 million mentioned, it will help chip away at the sizeable transfer fee paid and also remove his wages from our books.
One thing is for certain, with so many clubs now linked, it looks like Mitroglou wont be with Fulham this coming season and if we can get a transfer fee anywhere near what we paid for him, it would be best for all parties if he moved on permanently. After just 3 appearances and no goals, our record signing has proved to be disastrous signing for the club.
- See more at: http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/besitkas-the-latest-suitors-for-mitroglou-13-605.html?#sthash.Cgx1gNnd.dpuf (http://www.vivaelfulham.co.uk/news/besitkas-the-latest-suitors-for-mitroglou-13-605.html?#sthash.Cgx1gNnd.dpuf)
Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2015, 10:14:56 AMQuote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
Quote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PMI don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 23, 2015, 11:21:28 AMAgree, I relay Twitter sometimes but it has to be taken with a pinch of salt
The Twitterverse is a circle of nothing. Somebody posts something and it is repeated as fact. Then somebody else says something different and it is repeated as fact. The same people who said yesterday that Cariney was having a medical and all will be agreed are now saying Fulham have shown an interest in Cairney. So the answer is enjoy the Twitterverse but don't believe it.
Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 11:08:34 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2015, 10:14:56 AMQuote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
Why not? We have the money.We have the location. We have the infra structure. Just need to convince him we have the ambition. That is the only downer.
Quote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 11:08:34 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 23, 2015, 10:14:56 AMQuote from: grandad on June 23, 2015, 10:03:57 AM
Swansea are reported to be prepared to sell their attacking midfielder Michu for £4 mil. At 29 he is just a little old for that price but could fit the bill.
Are you suggesting, Fulham are capable of this kind of signing?
Why not? We have the money.We have the location. We have the infra structure. Just need to convince him we have the ambition. That is the only downer.
Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AMQuote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PMI don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Quote from: jelmo on June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AMYep I know the player from spain you are on about.Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AMQuote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PMI don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AMAnd what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
Quote from: MJG on June 23, 2015, 11:50:23 AMGiven it has fallen thru who was the playerQuote from: jelmo on June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AMYep I know the player from spain you are on about.Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AMQuote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PMI don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
Quote from: MJG on June 23, 2015, 11:50:23 AMQuote from: jelmo on June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AMYep I know the player from spain you are on about.Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AMQuote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PMI don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 11:53:58 AMQuote from: MJG on June 23, 2015, 11:50:23 AMGiven it has fallen thru who was the playerQuote from: jelmo on June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AMYep I know the player from spain you are on about.Quote from: Jem on June 23, 2015, 11:14:03 AMQuote from: MJG on June 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PMI don't see why anyone should have egg on their face. They are only relaying information they pick up and we all know nothing is guaranteed until it is on the offal!Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PMToo bloody right, but more people reporting it's going through rather than it isn't. So at the moment egg stays in the box.Quote from: westcliff white on June 22, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
According to some Twitter reports (as good as they are worth) Blackburn have rejected our approach for Cairney
Some people reporting that the deal was as good as done, closer than we think, fee and personal terms agreed. I hope this isn't egg on those peoples faces.
Exactly. Im glad MJG gave us the info. At least it provided some minor excitement. I have no doubt that the source was good but sometimes these things just dont come off for whatever reason.
About a month ago I heard some info that came from a very good source at the club that a defender from Celta Vigo was having a medical at the club (didnt get the name of the player)... I didnt bother to relay the info here as I knew I would get slaughtered if it didn't come off. I believe the player in question ended up failing the medical so pretty glad I didnt say we were going to sign him at the time.
I guess the point is that I'd rather have people in the know not be afraid to share info on this board (as long as its not obviously made up) than just be in the dark. At least that way it gives us something interesting to talk about!
My news on Cairney was solid, but now I'm not so sure. But like anything it will work its way out. Those who know me will see that Im not usually that positive a player is going to join unless I'm pretty sure.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 11:53:11 AMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AMAnd what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PMActually, I didn't say an amount?Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 06:43:10 PM
Apparently the rumour is that Friend is leaving so they want to keep Husband
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:14:55 PMI was with you until you said play Jazz Richards at left back. That would be the Jazz Richards that can't kick with his left foot !!! Surely there are plenty of genuine left backs we can look at other than the Man U kid and Jazz sideways pass Richards.Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 11:53:11 AMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AMAnd what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 06:32:23 PMThats not quite right is it. We are looking at the age group 22-27, that would mean players that can improve. Players like Barry Hayles, Sean Davis, Steve Finnan, shall I go on - think they did ok in the top division.Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PMActually, I didn't say an amount?Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 23, 2015, 07:46:53 PMI'm sorry Stu, but those players were when we were an attractive proposition - we had ambition, money to spend... And spent it!Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 06:32:23 PMThats not quite right is it. We are looking at the age group 22-27, that would mean players that can improve. Players like Barry Hayles, Sean Davis, Steve Finnan, shall I go on - think they did ok in the top division.Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PMActually, I didn't say an amount?Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 09:41:28 PMJust have a bit of faith. I am aware of about 8 targets, many of which are excellent players. We can't just spend spend spend or we will get a transfer embargo the same as Blackburn and a few other have. There is no way we would build a state of the art new Riverside Stand that will totally outdo the ground development Alfayed carried out if we had no ambition. It will take us time, your right we will not throw money around like we did with Mitroglue and a few others, however we will re-build the team and it will get better. We did not come straight through the Championship under Alfayed either, we had a crap season under Bracewell, remember that. Remember Wilkins the crab. Alfayed was wonderful for Fulham, however it was not instant, pretty quick granted, however he did not always get it right and I am certain he wanted to move us our of Craven Cottage. Remember the original ground schemes, they did not happen either ! We are more of an attractive club now we have just had 13 years in the Premier league. Khan will do it his way, he has learned a tough lesson the last 2 seasons and has a much better idea of what it will take. Spending a fortune got QPR relegated twice and they have learned as well. As said, keep the faith mate - COYWQuote from: FulhamStu on June 23, 2015, 07:46:53 PMI'm sorry Stu, but those players were when we were an attractive proposition - we had ambition, money to spend... And spent it!Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 06:32:23 PMThats not quite right is it. We are looking at the age group 22-27, that would mean players that can improve. Players like Barry Hayles, Sean Davis, Steve Finnan, shall I go on - think they did ok in the top division.Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PMActually, I didn't say an amount?Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
E.g. Bazza was bought for 2 million, I believe, when we were down in the lower leagues.
We are no longer that ambitious club, we keep being told about 'self financing' - well guess what what.... That really does not suggest ambition in this game.
I think FulhamBen is about the only one who can see we cannot go down this road to ruin. We must really go for it NOW before it's too late and we go back to where we were!
God, it's so depressing - well for me anyway!
Quote from: FulhamStu on June 23, 2015, 07:43:46 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:14:55 PMI was with you until you said play Jazz Richards at left back. That would be the Jazz Richards that can't kick with his left foot !!! Surely there are plenty of genuine left backs we can look at other than the Man U kid and Jazz sideways pass Richards.Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 11:53:11 AMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AMAnd what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
Quote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 10:50:26 PMim with you on not wanting loans. but we need specialised players in every position. especially defence where we are so weak.Quote from: FulhamStu on June 23, 2015, 07:43:46 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:14:55 PMI was with you until you said play Jazz Richards at left back. That would be the Jazz Richards that can't kick with his left foot !!! Surely there are plenty of genuine left backs we can look at other than the Man U kid and Jazz sideways pass Richards.Quote from: westcliff white on June 23, 2015, 11:53:11 AMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:42:14 AMAnd what if Kav and Evans are not good enough and get slaughtered week in week out? Not saying they are not good enough, just hilighting an issue that could arise. Kav didn't overly impress me last season in midfield, I thought his covering back was a little weak, so it could for me be an issue to the team due to that. So doesn't it make sense if someone who is better and is available, be that loan or permanent, make sense? Also not saying this James lad is that player who is better as I have never seen him.
And god no to any loan of a young player this summer. Why neglect our own youth to develop someone else's so he can back and either contribute or earn them a few quid? I'd rather have Sean Kavanagh and Jordan Evans share the left back berth than loan someone in for the year only for him to walk away the next summer. Our club with our young players should not be looking at loaning any youngster - if we can get an experienced pro that's out of his team and we know can contribute (and possible join at the end) then great. But giving a spot that could be taken by one of our youngsters to someone who's only here for a year is ludicrous short-term business.
It's a fair point you raise, but the point is, I'd rather buy a left back or spend the year developing one of our talents rather than borrowing for a year that we'll never benefit from. I've seen people ask about Ruben Loftus-Cheek on here, but he'd be taking minutes from our own Emerson Hyndman, Patrick Bamford has also been mentioned, but he'd be used in place of Cauley Woodrow or Moussa Dembele.
The point isn't the quality, it's about the future of the football club and placing faith in our own young players. Would Reece James be the best option for us on a loan? I'd say, finalise the signing of Jazz Richards and play him at left back with Jack Grimmer at right back over bringing in a loanee. There's always options, and we shouldn't neglect our young players for another teams. Ben Davies received an opportunity after Neil Taylor got injured, didn't look back and signed for Tottenham.
It's good for no one to remove an opportunity and give it to someone who'll only be there temporarily. There are better things we can do than bring in players on loan.
That wasn't my solution, but a solution, rather than loaning someone who would just leave. It was just an example of something we could do that would better and more beneficial for the football club in the long run than a loan move for a kid that'll use us as his next step.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 06:32:23 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PMActually, I didn't say an amount?Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PMQuote from: FPT on June 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AMDo you know for certain (not paper talk) what our budget is, please?
Michu would be one hell of a gamble. Pretty much injured for two years with a tonne of ankle injuries and surgeries. £4m for a 29 year old striker whose career could well be winding down given these injury problems? No from me. Up top is where we least need to touch, £4m would be better spent bringing in a top quality centre back, that's some chunk of our budget.
Educated guess. We could probably financially cope with £10m unanswered but next summer would be tight and limited (were we still to be a Championship side). I don't think we'll see many Championship sides spend £4m this summer, let alone on one player.
So no, I don't know for certain, but it's not hard to guess using basic footballing business. £4m on an injury prone 29 year old striker would be a large chunk of our budget, and it'd be ludicrous for you think that we could spend something like £20m without balancing our expenditure.
Anyway, if we don't spend we won't get promotion. We are 'apparently', according to most posts, looking to buy or take free championship 'experience' at the expense of anyone on more than a fiver a week (ok I exaggerate). If this is the case we could have a stable championship team. If we then managed to up we would have to start from scratch again! Then back down we will most likely come!
I think we are on a road to nowhere unfortunately!
Quote from: MJG on June 25, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 25, 2015, 03:00:43 PMI think its fair to say the club see things just as we all do. Mistakes were made last season and in the end we survived and then Rigg and everyone involved has reviewed the squad for its strengths and weaknesses.Quote from: MJG on June 25, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
Mr. MJG, You seem to have a fair handle on at least some of Fulham's transfer targets/intentions. With that notion in mind, I was wondering if you had the impression that the staff see the team in a similar way to what the supporters do. By that I mean, are the areas of weakness that we complained about, seemingly week in and week out, during the season aligning with what you hear from your sources as being addressed during this window? Are there positions which some or all of us complain about that the club feel are well covered and not a concern?
I'm keeping my questions very general in hopes that they can be answered. If you want to give a bit more detail (a particular field position as an example) I'd welcome whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
Just trying to find something Fulham (present day) to talk about while we wait.
Quote from: MJG on June 25, 2015, 03:31:11 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 25, 2015, 03:00:43 PMI think its fair to say the club see things just as we all do. Mistakes were made last season and in the end we survived and then Rigg and everyone involved has reviewed the squad for its strengths and weaknesses.Quote from: MJG on June 25, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
So from a look at the BBC transfers page since May 8th there have been 31 incoming transfers involving 16 championship clubs.
Derby -5 and QPR -4 have been the most busy.
8 teams have done nothing
we have signed 2
Don't panic its still early is the message.
Mr. MJG, You seem to have a fair handle on at least some of Fulham's transfer targets/intentions. With that notion in mind, I was wondering if you had the impression that the staff see the team in a similar way to what the supporters do. By that I mean, are the areas of weakness that we complained about, seemingly week in and week out, during the season aligning with what you hear from your sources as being addressed during this window? Are there positions which some or all of us complain about that the club feel are well covered and not a concern?
I'm keeping my questions very general in hopes that they can be answered. If you want to give a bit more detail (a particular field position as an example) I'd welcome whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
Just trying to find something Fulham (present day) to talk about while we wait.
I'm confident that plans have/are being laid down for every position, not only for this season but the following years as well.
Khan wants top six at least and dont believe anyone who says different. They will try within the boundaries they have to bring players in (with experience as we have seen) who fit the bill. Some might think the club just wing it (and at times its looked like that) but I'm not so sure thats the case this time.
So if your asking me do they know they need a CB? then yes they know. Do we need a midfielder or two? Yes as we can see from who we are linked with.
Its a case really of lets wait and see and all try and have a bit more patience.
Quote from: @jolslover on June 25, 2015, 08:26:21 PM
That moment when you realise BIlly Bob on football rumours got Cairney, Pringle, and Lonergan right. And his new source may actually be legit ....
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on June 28, 2015, 01:47:38 PM
Is this a top 6 side??
Bettenelli
Yedlin Dunk Burn Husband
Cairney LVC Bridcutt Pringle
Hooper Ross
Dunk is a solid defender
Husband & Yedlin (Spurs) would offer good pace
Always liked Bridcutt
Hooper a good goalscorer
Quote from: FPT on June 28, 2015, 04:02:07 PMif you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
We got £3m from Olympiakos last summer for loaning them Kostas Mitroglou, so if we could do that again, it would be fine. It'd be nice to get £1.5m+ for Bryan Ruiz, but £1m would do the job. Fernando Amorebieta, eh, I would like him to be sold but I don't know who would buy him... and I like him. £2m would be nice considering he still has two years left on his deal, then again, he's 30 years old. That's £6.5m, maybe being hopeful? We sell Mitroglou, you could probably add another £3m-£4m on top of that.
Then there's the Patrick Roberts fiasco that has about 5 different stories with different prices. Hopefully it would be more £8m-£10m with add ons rather than £5m with add ons to £10m, but that's being very hopeful. I think the majority of our summer window would depend on these moves.
I do think we essentially need 5 new starters to reach the play offs, though could maybe push with the three defensive players (right back, centre back and left back). The most important thing is that we get our planned starting defence playing together as soon as possible. If we are lining up a 433, as it looks, I would say that we still need a right winger with a bit of pace and danger (someone in the mould of Michail Antonio) and a holding midfielder that can shore up that midfield with presence, but also show a lot of ability on the ball to control and dictate play (Kevin McDonald) with Tom Cairney and Lasse Vigen Christensen ahead of him.
The sooner it's done, the better. Before Portugal (next Sunday) would be amazing, but before Austria (three Sunday's from now) would be acceptable.
The issue last season was more the players were brought in with little logic and from all over the place. Our kids last season needed more players like Ross McCormack to help them through and take the pressure off. Plus, it didn't help that a load of our signings were wasted - Fazlic, Fotheringham, Chihi and Voser, with a load just generally disappointing - Kiraly, Hoogland, Bodurov, Hutchinson. With then Taggart injured all year and Eisfeld then going out on loan.
This summer, we clearly have a plan of the type of players we want and what role they'll have in the team. It's refreshing to see us go through a window with logic and intelligence rather than the chucking together of decent players from Martin Jol or the sheer idiocy from Felix. Our signings will have pre-planned roles and responsibilities of which Mike Rigg and Kit Symons will have spoken and discussed about taking the football club forward with a style, system and structure in mind. We'll learn more over pre-season, so we'll see how it all pieces together.
Quote from: fulhamben on June 28, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Quote from: FPT on June 28, 2015, 06:20:08 PMbut like you say, thats your theory. id be suprised if we followed your theory. as i cant see us lining up that narrow in the middle again. plus why buy two of the better wingers, if you are going to utilise them in different rolesQuote from: fulhamben on June 28, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Well no, my theory is that we swap to a 433, we didn't have Kostas Mitroglou anyway and we drop to one striker so we don't need to replace Hugo Rodallega. Bryan Ruiz has essentially been replaced by Tom Cairney, though again baring the system in mind, you don't need a pure attacking midfielder because you are not utilising one. Also in the post I state how we need a right winger, with Alex Kacaniklic and Ben Pringle, we have two that can also play on the right and Ange-Freddy Plumain or Larnell Cole can come up from the Under 21s if need be.
Up top is where we least need additions, especially if our system changes towards a lone striker dynamic. If we were going to bring in a striker, it'd be my last move of the season, could even been a loan in the separate window.
The facts are, we need a starter in both full back positions and a division quality centre back. Only one team in last seasons' top 6 had a goals against not of a top 6 standard. The same applies to the season before, and the season before that - so on the basis of the last three years, there's a one in six chance that you'll make the play offs with a defence that is not of top 6 standard, as apposed to a 5 in 6 chance if you have one of the top 6 defences in the division.
We don't know what'll happen in the rest of the window, but what we do know is that we need to vastly improve our defence. If there's an opportunity to give us more going forward, great. It's just not priority when we know that Ross can grab 15+ goals, Smith could probably hit double figures given a decent run from the bench, as well as Christensen and Cairney. Then there's set pieces (of which our delivery has improved, bringing in Cairney and Pringle), if we bring in a winger like the quoted Antonio then there's goals there too - but goals generally mean sod all if you're not keeping them out at the other end - we need to become more dominant, but more importantly, harder to beat. Teams need to face us and think that their strikers have to be at the top of their game because they won't get many chances, and fear losing the ball because they won't see it again for five minutes.
So no, we wouldn't be weaker whatsoever and we would not have to replace each exit like-for-like.
Quote from: FPT on June 28, 2015, 06:20:08 PMQuote from: fulhamben on June 28, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
if you take mitro ruiz and roberts out of the team, added to the already departed hugo, then you cant just spend it all on defence, as that would leave us considerably weaker in attack than we was last year. you need a good defence but the top scorers are the ones who normally succed
Well no, my theory is that we swap to a 433, we didn't have Kostas Mitroglou anyway and we drop to one striker so we don't need to replace Hugo Rodallega. Bryan Ruiz has essentially been replaced by Tom Cairney, though again baring the system in mind, you don't need a pure attacking midfielder because you are not utilising one. Also in the post I state how we need a right winger, with Alex Kacaniklic and Ben Pringle, we have two that can also play on the right and Ange-Freddy Plumain or Larnell Cole can come up from the Under 21s if need be.
Up top is where we least need additions, especially if our system changes towards a lone striker dynamic. If we were going to bring in a striker, it'd be my last move of the season, could even been a loan in the separate window.
The facts are, we need a starter in both full back positions and a division quality centre back. Only one team in last seasons' top 6 had a goals against not of a top 6 standard. The same applies to the season before, and the season before that - so on the basis of the last three years, there's a one in six chance that you'll make the play offs with a defence that is not of top 6 standard, as apposed to a 5 in 6 chance if you have one of the top 6 defences in the division.
We don't know what'll happen in the rest of the window, but what we do know is that we need to vastly improve our defence. If there's an opportunity to give us more going forward, great. It's just not priority when we know that Ross can grab 15+ goals, Smith could probably hit double figures given a decent run from the bench, as well as Christensen and Cairney. Then there's set pieces (of which our delivery has improved, bringing in Cairney and Pringle), if we bring in a winger like the quoted Antonio then there's goals there too - but goals generally mean sod all if you're not keeping them out at the other end - we need to become more dominant, but more importantly, harder to beat. Teams need to face us and think that their strikers have to be at the top of their game because they won't get many chances, and fear losing the ball because they won't see it again for five minutes.
So no, we wouldn't be weaker whatsoever and we would not have to replace each exit like-for-like.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
The one player I would sign for Fulham is Ashley Barnes from newly relegated Bumley! I beleieve he has all the qualities of a young Steven Gerrard and likes to 'put his foot in' as Chelsea's [Auto]Matic discovered much to his chagrin (Matic's reaction also compounded the near broken leg he recieved when he was sent off (quite rightly) making it even more enjoyable, for that reason alone Barnes should be an instant hero at Fulham).
Barnes also has an excellent shot and reminds me of Steve Sidwell at his best! Yet does Fulahm have the ambition to attain a player of this calibre?
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 02:48:50 PM
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 02:48:50 PM
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 02:48:50 PMappears in two of the photos too
Jamie O'Hara training with us according to the official Fulham page. Decent signing if we get him in my books.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/june/29/pre-season-begins)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 29, 2015, 02:49:29 PM
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 29, 2015, 02:59:43 PM
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Quote from: westcliff white on June 29, 2015, 03:13:24 PM
Having o'Hara with us does that mean maybe we are not interested in McDonald?
As someone said on another thread, Roberts looks like he has beefed up a little, he also seems to be quite happy, but then pictures are hard to read what one thinks.
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PMAgree we have a lot, wasn't sure where Mcdonald played in the midfield, but if DM then surely a lot of his passes would have been short and/or backwards so maybe the stats are not as good as they look?
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PMIf you work on the basis you want two players for each position and we may be changing formation, then we need ten of them for midfield and wide positions.
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PMWilliams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:30:50 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PMWilliams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:34:48 PMOf course, but will be back playing in September at this rate.Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:30:50 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PMWilliams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
It'll still likely take him a good few weeks to get up to match fitness considering the type of injury though.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:35:43 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:34:48 PMOf course, but will be back playing in September at this rate.Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 03:30:50 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 03:29:42 PMWilliams is actually ahead of schedule on his fitness, may miss the first few of weeks but working hard.Quote from: Ordar on June 29, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
Well McDonald is a defensive midfielder to my knowledge and O'Hara is a creative playmaker, so I would assume they wouldnt have any baring on one another.
What it does mean though is we seem to have about a million midfielders on the books currently:
Cairney
Pringle
Parker
Kaca
Tunnicliffe
LVC
Hyndman
Eisfeld
Roberts
Williams
O'Hara
Surely we must be loaning/selling a couple of those
Williams is out long term, Parker is VERY short term, Eisfeld likely doesn't have a future, I hope Tunnicliffe goes, LVC/Hyndman should be competing for a full season between them, Kaca needs to prove himself big time.
EDIT: Oh and LVC should not be competing with anyone, he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
It'll still likely take him a good few weeks to get up to match fitness considering the type of injury though.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 29, 2015, 03:40:19 PMid rather play hyndman, and save the money for more important things. the blokes up there with nigel quashie for relegations under his belt.
I can only think we'd be allowing O'Hara to train if we're intending to offer him a deal [provided he performs adequately in the training sessions].
As both he and Cairney are left-footed and creative CMs, I imagine the plan is to shift Cairney higher up the pitch to play CAM (a position he prefers), O'Hara and McDonald (or Parker if he doesn't sign) in LCM and RCM respectively, and Pringle and LVC at LAM and RAM respectively.
So we'd look something like:
Betts
RB RCB LCB LB
McDonald O'Hara
Lasse Cairney Pringle
Ross
I'd be pretty happy with that as a starting formation. Could then bring on another striker for an attacking midfielder if Plan A ain't working.
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 29, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
I can only think we'd be allowing O'Hara to train if we're intending to offer him a deal [provided he performs adequately in the training sessions].
As both he and Cairney are left-footed and creative CMs, I imagine the plan is to shift Cairney higher up the pitch to play CAM (a position he prefers), O'Hara and McDonald (or Parker if he doesn't sign) in LCM and RCM respectively, and Pringle and LVC at LAM and RAM respectively.
So we'd look something like:
Betts
RB RCB LCB LB
McDonald O'Hara
Lasse Cairney Pringle
Ross
I'd be pretty happy with that as a starting formation. Could then bring on another striker for an attacking midfielder if Plan A ain't working.
Quote from: EJL on June 29, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
Doubt O'Hara will have the legs to start for us in a midfield two, even with a full pre season under his belt.
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
Quote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PMWhat a massive backward step that would be.
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 04:54:37 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on June 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PMWhat a massive backward step that would be.
Apparently Sidwell having a medical with us - check the facebook group if you want the picture
Quote from: TrexFFC on June 29, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Why would it be a MASSIVE backwards step for us? He scored a lot of goals for us the previous season in the Prem and he adds a ton of experience for us. He's only 32, he knows the club, he can help the younger guys out and he still probably has some quality left as well.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PMi still have nightmares of him lining up next to parker
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 05:11:47 PMQuote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 05:11:47 PM32 isnt relatively young for a footballer at all. the decline has started and will only get worse.Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 29, 2015, 05:26:34 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 05:11:47 PMQuote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Because for every goal it's negated by the fouls he gives away on the edge of our own box, and his passing is not good enough. Also now over a year older than when he left with hardly a game behind him.
To be honest though MJG, this is the Championship now, so his level of footballing ability will most likely suit the division. At 32, he's still relatively young, scores goals, has leadership qulaities, and will stick a foot in where we most desperately need it. I'm never one for going back, but this isn't as bad as you make out.
If true..
Agree with this.
We learnt last year that half of the challenges that'd be reds in the prem aren't even fouls in the Championship.
I'd rather Sid than Scott as our DM next season. But, in truth, there are many players I think we could get who I'd prefer to either of them..
Could be replacement for Parker.....
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 06:21:53 PMi dont know my football then. because time and time again i watched a fulham team get battered and dominated in the middle. i must have imagined ruiz and berbatov dropping deep all the time because neither sidwell or parker could get the ball out of our back third. ive said it a million times. sidwell is a one touch player. give him any more touches than that and he is shocking. now he did pop up with the odd goal, and good tackle every now and then, but over the season it proved to be not good enough. and dont get me wrong, i like sidwell, but im not going to pretend he is better than what he was.
Anyone who doesn't rate the Sidwell who played for us in our last season in the PL doesn't know their footie, as I do. Or perhaps they were still queueing in the bar for a Balti Pie?!
Whatever the folly, Sidwell is a class above anything we have now in midfield and that includes Parker, who rarely ever looked as competent and determined as El Sid. At 32, one can hardly say he is too old and he would soon prove to be the best midfielder in the Championship if we had the wisdom to admit we (Ali Mack) made a mistake in letting him go.
Quote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Quote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AMHis best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 09:59:46 AMQuote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AMHis best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 30, 2015, 10:02:50 AMTotally agree, maybe a run of games just in that position would help him. Keep it simple is best for him.Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 09:59:46 AMQuote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AMHis best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
I think he has great potential in that position. Win it and play the easy ball etuhu style. Takes discipline but I think he has it in him.
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:04:35 AMThese are the relatively simple decisions Kit has to ket right this season. I totally agree if Tunnicliffe has a future at Fulham it has to be DFM. He is not gong to compete with LVC / Cairney / Pringle / Roberts / Williams, even potentially Eisfeld for attacking MF. Hyndman will be interesting. Is he DMF or more forward, or utility. Another player we need to look after for the long term, including getting him on a new contract. Kacka I am not so sure about, I just don't think he is hungry enough. Larnal Cole on the other hand is a player I want to see make progress this season.Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 30, 2015, 10:02:50 AMTotally agree, maybe a run of games just in that position would help him. Keep it simple is best for him.Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 09:59:46 AMQuote from: Northern Cottager on June 30, 2015, 09:50:50 AMHis best game by a mile was Sunderland away when he played the holding role really well.Quote from: Wearethewhites on June 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PMQuote from: Jonnoj on June 29, 2015, 09:26:18 PMQuote from: FPT on June 29, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Defensive midfield: Kevin McDonald, Scott Parker
Central midfield: Tom Cairney, Lasse Vigen Christensen, Jamie O'Hara, Ryan
I think that's an ideal central midfield group, every player offers something different to each role. That midfield has depth, and barring LVC has Championship depth but we know what Christensen can do for us. That group of players gives us an option to be flexible with formation too, allowing us to change for games and occasions.
For Emerson Hyndman to dip in between the first team and the under 21s is just fine for me. He's only 19, he can be involved in the cups and fill in when there's suspensions/injuries. There's no rush, especially whilst we're building for promotion, he'll learn on the training ground.
I think Pringle might get a game ahead of Tunnicliffe
Think??? There's no need to think, he will definitely get a game ahead on Tunnicliffe.
Was really glad to see us recall Tunnicliffe but he seemed to lose his Blackburn form when he returned.
If only he could replicate that week in week out he would be a really good player.
I think he has great potential in that position. Win it and play the easy ball etuhu style. Takes discipline but I think he has it in him.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AMSorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:34:44 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AMSorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:37:03 AMOn twitter, last night. Absolutely nothing in itQuote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:34:44 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AMSorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
On facebook?
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:42:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:37:03 AMOn twitter, last night. Absolutely nothing in itQuote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:34:44 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on June 30, 2015, 10:23:41 AMSorry to say that was myself and another fan last night playing games.
Someone's posted the old Rhodes to fulham post again this window.....
On facebook?
But I would love it to be true, massive fan of Rhodes and Blackburn will sell for right offer.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2015, 01:10:47 PMJohn Percy a midlands reporter for the Daily Telegraph
Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 01, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Ollie where is that news from? I had heard that Wolves wanted 3.5 million for him, admittedly that was just internet and twitter noise.
Quote from: cmg on July 01, 2015, 02:09:39 PMYou can almost see some of the younger ones who have been released being asked back if they have not found a team..just to make up the numbers.
It would seem there is quite a bit of business still to be done.
The Club website has updated the player profiles and the First Team is as expected (includes Amo and 'the Departed', Bryan and Mitro). The u21 squad consists of just 10 faces, which looks even skinnier when you consider that Rodak, Donnelly and Cole were with the First Team yesterday, Arthurworrey is out of contract but 'still in discussion' and Passley has been officially released. The u18s hasn't been updated.
On the subject of Passley, it seems his misdemeanours were forgiven by Portsmouth and he was in the team immediately after his suspension. He then received what seemed to be a bad injury which rendered him unconscious and out for the rest of the season. Hopefully he is now fully recovered.
Can an injured player be released?
We would seem to need more players although, of course, plenty of the First Teamers are still qualified for u21. Personally, besides being much too old, I already carry too much scar tissue courtesy of playing against various Police sides to be keen on turning out next week.
Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PMGiven his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PMGiven his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:13:32 PMMight be just a case of 'just not sure' about him. And having watched him for a while I understand that.Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PMGiven his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Quote from: MJG on July 02, 2015, 03:40:48 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:13:32 PMMight be just a case of 'just not sure' about him. And having watched him for a while I understand that.Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PMGiven his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:52:35 PMOffers are there, Hyndman has been away but I think is back for the tour so I'd expect them to sign soon, and LVC as well.Quote from: MJG on July 02, 2015, 03:40:48 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 02, 2015, 03:13:32 PMMight be just a case of 'just not sure' about him. And having watched him for a while I understand that.Quote from: MJG on July 01, 2015, 11:07:27 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 01, 2015, 10:51:12 PMGiven his age as long as we offer a contract we are due compensation even if says no and goes elsewhere.Quote from: Bracken White on July 01, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Arthurworrey has signed a 1-yr extension to his contract & has been loaned back out to Yeovil.
Never really have seen the point in this kind of deal, at least from the clubs perspective. Sign him for a yr and then send him on loan for a yr?? It's either yes you believe in him or no you don't. This reads like "no" but hedging somehow.
I'd be happy if someone could put a nice positive spin on this one.
I see. Still, understanding that money is money, seems a lot of effort to back able to claim a couple hundred grand. Couldn't be much more than that could it?
I still say that if you believe in the kid sign him to a better contract. If all you aspire to get from him is compensation for "losing" a youth player, seems better to let him leave. Know that doesn't make a lot of business sense though.
Fair enough Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
Without spilling names of course, do you know of any negotiations w new players that progressing well?
Or perhaps if there are negotiations for new deals w Hyndman, Roberts, Dembele? How would you characterize our situations with them? Maybe I'm asking you to reveal too much. Understandable if so. I'm just getting greedy with this transfer window. All seems to be going so well for us atm.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PMcant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
Quote from: fulhamben on July 02, 2015, 10:08:07 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PMcant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 02, 2015, 10:42:43 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 02, 2015, 10:08:07 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PMcant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
Yep totally agree. Just had a nose on Brighton messageboard, apparently they want £5m, they're saying if Mings was £8m Dunk not far off that.
Desperate for a good centre half,reckon we should go 4m also according to Wolves Stearman not happy with his new contract offer
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 02, 2015, 10:42:43 PMIf I was Rigg I'd say 5 mill, take it or leave it...Quote from: fulhamben on July 02, 2015, 10:08:07 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 02, 2015, 09:39:13 PMcant help but think dunk is one of those where you just go in at what they want for him. meet there price and get it done
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/02/brighton-rejects-fulhams-new-bid-for-dunk/)
Brighton rejects Fulham's new bid for Dunk
HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club that Brighton Hove and Albion have rejected a second bid from Fulham for defender Lewis Dunk.
As revealed by HITC Sport last month, Fulham had launched a bid for Dunk as they look to bolster their central defensive options for next season.
Dunk is regarded as one of the best young defenders in the country after catching the eye for Brighton last season with a number of stellar performances.
A host of Premier League and Championship clubs are thought to be interested in Dunk, but Fulham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by luring him to Craven Cottage.
Fulham are understood to have increased their offer to £3 million after seeing a £2.5 million bid for Dunk rejected last month
SEE ALSO: Fulham rival Derby with defender bid
However, Brighton have rejected the improved offer as Seagulls boss Chris Hughton is determined to keep hold of Dunk for next season.
It remains to be seen if Fulham come back with a new improved bid for Dunk to try and lure the 23-year-old to West London
Yep totally agree. Just had a nose on Brighton messageboard, apparently they want £5m, they're saying if Mings was £8m Dunk not far off that.
Desperate for a good centre half,reckon we should go 4m also according to Wolves Stearman not happy with his new contract offer
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 03, 2015, 06:49:00 AM
Some of my Brighton supporting friends say he is good but always makes an obvious mistake in every game. 4 million will get him + add ons, Brighton want the money.
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 03, 2015, 06:49:00 AMWhich tbh pretty much sums up championship defenders anyway. The question is does he make less mistakes than the current ones we have?
Some of my Brighton supporting friends say he is good but always makes an obvious mistake in every game. 4 million will get him + add ons, Brighton want the money.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on July 03, 2015, 12:06:41 AMIf we did sign him and the club used that phrase after he had scored the winner , I would be more than happy to see it used every week. COYW
If we do sign Dunk, I pray that the club don't use the phrase 'Slam Dunk' as the headline of the match report if ever he scores the winner
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 04, 2015, 12:23:57 AMid be suprised if we were. am is hardly the position we need to be looking at
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 04, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 04, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
@MarcIles: Told absolutely no chance of Kevin Nolan coming back to #bwfc - but did hear this morning that Fulham and QPR were interested.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on July 03, 2015, 05:42:17 PM
Am I the only one that thinks it's all gone a bit quiet on the Roberts to Man City front?
Quote from: Yonderwhite on July 04, 2015, 12:21:10 PMand could go to them for as little as £300,000 according to the Mail
Roberts now linked with PSG. Seems everyone wants him...
Rumour courtesy of Sky Sports Transfer Centre
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 04, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Rumour has it, that Boro are going to offer Ipswich Husband as part of the Murphy deal. Player + cash
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on July 05, 2015, 12:43:55 AManything in that or just a gut feeling
Got a feeling we won't end up with Lewis Dunk. Think the CB who will join Fulham will be Tarkowski
Quote from: FPT on July 05, 2015, 01:49:04 AM
I think Tom Lees is the best centre back we've been linked with, followed by Richard Stearman for maturity and reliability over Lewis Dunk, and James Tarkowski at the back, though the lines are slim. Tomorrow I actually plan to watch the 4-1 loss to Brentford (eh) for Tarkowski specifically, I too feel that this is the move we'll make.
I also plan to watch our Wolves games for Kevin McDonald and Brighton for Joe Bennett. I don't really need to watch the Wolves games as I feel I know what McDonald is all about, but hey, why not? Bennett's the one made me want to watch these games back - as for Aston Villa I can only recall him being awful.
I'm an unemployed student on my summer holiday, I have bags of time!
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on July 05, 2015, 12:43:55 AM
Got a feeling we won't end up with Lewis Dunk. Think the CB who will join Fulham will be Tarkowski
Quote from: FPT on July 05, 2015, 01:49:04 AM
I think Tom Lees is the best centre back we've been linked with, followed by Richard Stearman for maturity and reliability over Lewis Dunk, and James Tarkowski at the back, though the lines are slim. Tomorrow I actually plan to watch the 4-1 loss to Brentford (eh) for Tarkowski specifically, I too feel that this is the move we'll make.
I also plan to watch our Wolves games for Kevin McDonald and Brighton for Joe Bennett. I don't really need to watch the Wolves games as I feel I know what McDonald is all about, but hey, why not? Bennett's the one made me want to watch these games back - as for Aston Villa I can only recall him being awful.
I'm an unemployed student on my summer holiday, I have bags of time!
Quote from: @jolslover on July 05, 2015, 11:17:47 AM
The opinion i've had from many Brighton fans on Joe Bennett is that he was decent going forward, but poor defensively
I personally would be happy with Joe Bennett as I think hes a decent player. If we get him, we are just in need of a CB DM and possibly a Winger and I believe we are finished for the summer
Quote from: Yonderwhite on July 05, 2015, 01:58:40 PM
O'Hara apparently having a medical.
Seemed like an obvious move as he was training with us, hopefully it will be wrapped up soon.
Quote from: ollienixs on July 05, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
Ohara been offered a 2 hear deal
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Quote from: JackyFulham90 on July 06, 2015, 05:06:20 AM
For me the ideal window from now
Ins
Michael Turner
James Tarkowski
Joe Bennett
Jamie O'Hara
Kevin McDonald
Frazier Campbell
Out
Bryan Ruiz
Kostas Mitroglou
Fernando Amorebieta
Ryan Tunnicliffe
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
Quote from: McBride78 on July 06, 2015, 03:43:46 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on July 06, 2015, 04:04:34 PMQuote from: McBride78 on July 06, 2015, 03:43:46 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
Can we have Rhodes as well or is that being greedy?
Quote from: Domino 1879 on July 06, 2015, 04:04:34 PMMore importantly, can we get 4 year deals for LVC, Roberts and Bettinelli?Quote from: McBride78 on July 06, 2015, 03:43:46 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That would be an impressive two weeks with possible 5 players brought in all with the abliity to immediately compete for a spot in the squad. Also would mean our core team of starters is relatively young. If we get Dunk, Tark, or both, would love to see 4 year deals similar to what we got with Cairney. Would be a good start to building a core that will be in place as we move towards promotion and back to the prem.
Can we have Rhodes as well or is that being greedy?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 06, 2015, 09:55:08 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Quote from: jj____ on July 06, 2015, 10:45:10 PM
If wiki says it then it must be true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bennett_(footballer)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 06, 2015, 10:35:04 PMQuote from: Fernhurst on July 06, 2015, 09:55:08 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Quote from: The Rock on July 06, 2015, 11:20:19 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 06, 2015, 10:35:04 PMQuote from: Fernhurst on July 06, 2015, 09:55:08 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Hats off to those in the know. I still think we clearly lack ambition and these players pick themselves. I guess I'd cherry pick the best players in the championship as well to make it easy with the parachute payments.
Anyone know if we are going to employ any scouts again? I personally think Southfield White is worth twice that of the existing staff.
Quote from: The Rock on July 06, 2015, 11:20:19 PMSo I suppose you think we should be busting the bank only on reserve PL players?, twice the price and twice the wages.Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 06, 2015, 10:35:04 PMQuote from: Fernhurst on July 06, 2015, 09:55:08 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 06, 2015, 03:39:45 PM
05 Jul 2015 18:54:58
Kevin McDonald
Jamie O'Hara
Joe Bennett
All to be Fulham players during next week
Bids to be made for Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski next week.
4-5 million will get Dunk and 1.75-2 million will get Tarkowski
That "Snake Venom's strong stuff eh?
Nice thought though
Mock him if you must, but both this guy and BillyBob from the Football Rumour website have been spot on so far. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of these come off (excluding O'Hara who is practically here)
Hats off to those in the know. I still think we clearly lack ambition and these players pick themselves. I guess I'd cherry pick the best players in the championship as well to make it easy with the parachute payments.
Anyone know if we are going to employ any scouts again? I personally think Southfield White is worth twice that of the existing staff.
Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 07, 2015, 12:52:13 PMjQuote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Wonder if Dunk fits into this category? Seems that all has gone quiet where he and Fulham are concerned.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 07, 2015, 02:31:44 PM
Can I ask, is any of these reliable regarding Dunk/McDonald? KMac is clearly playing us to get more money are my initial thoughts to be honest.
Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Quote from: McBride78 on July 07, 2015, 03:12:57 PMWe are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 03:21:36 PMQuote from: McBride78 on July 07, 2015, 03:12:57 PMWe are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 07, 2015, 04:07:27 PMQuote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 03:21:36 PMQuote from: McBride78 on July 07, 2015, 03:12:57 PMWe are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
Something we should have been doing since Roy left......I mean cherry-picking high performers from Championship clubs and developing them into PL players. I'd wager we'd have spent no more money than we did on our journeyman continentals and under performing has-beens (most. not all.) and remained a PL team. Such a shame that it either wasn't allowed or was just ignored as a viable option to running the footballing side of things over recent seasons.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on July 07, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Bryan Ruiz to Sporting is apparently all but officially announced.
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 07, 2015, 06:04:42 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on July 07, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Bryan Ruiz to Sporting is apparently all but officially announced.
Good luck to him, he has been a model professional and not one who keeps bleating to the press about wanting to leave. Even though he clearly has.
I hope he has good years at SL
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 07, 2015, 04:07:27 PMQuote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 03:21:36 PMQuote from: McBride78 on July 07, 2015, 03:12:57 PMWe are looking at signing the best performing player from each team just to piss them all off.Quote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
So they have clocked on to what we are doing, meaning buying high performers in the league and quietly assembling a team capable of causing them problems this year?
Something we should have been doing since Roy left......I mean cherry-picking high performers from Championship clubs and developing them into PL players. I'd wager we'd have spent no more money than we did on our journeyman continentals and under performing has-beens (most. not all.) and remained a PL team. Such a shame that it either wasn't allowed or was just ignored as a viable option to running the footballing side of things over recent seasons.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 07, 2015, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 07, 2015, 02:00:09 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 07, 2015, 12:52:13 PMjQuote from: MJG on July 07, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Only what we are all seeing at the moment. Clubs have clocked on to what we are doing and quite rightly playing hardball. But still looking at those listed to come in, or we move onto the next pick, which we have done already.
I'd expect a couple out this week as well.
Wonder if Dunk fits into this category? Seems that all has gone quiet where he and Fulham are concerned.
According to guy reputedly in the know of TIFF Dunk very close to signing
My information about Lewis Dunk is similar to yours, and his transfer to Fulham is in the latter stages of completion fingers crossed, as nothing is certain. Also Ruiz going out to Sporting is also in the final stages, so hopefully nether will drag on unnecessary.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on July 07, 2015, 10:24:01 PM
The Sporting Clube de Portugal , Futebol, SAD and Fulham FC have reached an agreement for the player Bryan Ruiz represents the Sporting in the next three seasons.
It was also defined a termination clause worth 60 million euros.
Looks like he's gone. No idea of the transfer fee, but that's a translation from the official Sporting website.
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
Quote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 08, 2015, 09:22:23 AM
BHAFC News @BHAFC_NEWS 9m9 minutes ago
Albion boss Chris Hughton has issued a hands off message to Premier League and Championship admirers of Lewis Dunk. #BHAFC.
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Reports of Fulham having two bids turned down for Dunk are incorrect, according to a club source. #BHAFC #FFC (The Argus)
Not sure what the two mean. Hands off then by the looks of it.
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BHAFC News @BHAFC_NEWS 9m9 minutes ago
Albion boss Chris Hughton has issued a hands off message to Premier League and Championship admirers of Lewis Dunk. #BHAFC.
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Reports of Fulham having two bids turned down for Dunk are incorrect, according to a club source. #BHAFC #FFC (The Argus)
Not sure what the two mean. Hands off then by the looks of it.
I remember Blackburn saying pretty much the same about Cainey, and he signed 2 days later.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on July 08, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
An avid Falkirk FC friend tells me we have enquired about Botti Biabi, nineteen year old striker, raw talent. Reported in Falkirk Herald last Thursday apparently. Swansea also interested.
Quote from: Walsh on July 08, 2015, 03:55:01 PMDo we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2015, 06:25:49 PMQuote from: Walsh on July 08, 2015, 03:55:01 PMDo we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Quote from: FPT on July 07, 2015, 11:44:49 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bryan-ruiz/profil/spieler/39642 (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bryan-ruiz/profil/spieler/39642)
TransferMarkt (spot on with figures generally) post the Bryan Ruiz fee as £1.96m, so you can round that up to £2m.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 08, 2015, 07:38:43 PMplayed there a lot for Blackburn, which is what I based my comment onQuote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2015, 06:25:49 PMQuote from: Walsh on July 08, 2015, 03:55:01 PMDo we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Is this how Cairney is seen? More of a RM/RW than a CM?
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2015, 07:43:22 PMbut was also allegedly one of the reasons he leftQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 08, 2015, 07:38:43 PMplayed there a lot for Blackburn, which is what I based my comment onQuote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2015, 06:25:49 PMQuote from: Walsh on July 08, 2015, 03:55:01 PMDo we need one? Roberts, Cole, Cairney if these are not going to play there or cant play there then yes we need to look at that area
have we been linked with a RM/RW?
Is this how Cairney is seen? More of a RM/RW than a CM?
Quote from: westcliff white on July 08, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
I am convinced he plays on the right, did when RM bought him on against United as well.
He could be a two footed, fleet footed wonder kid though
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 08, 2015, 08:07:41 PMeven kits not dumb enough to go with the diamond again.
I think we will play the diamond again, Pringle's interview seemed to suggest he prefers playing in the pockets and not out wide. I can just see it now, 4 games in 1 win, 1 draw and 2 loses. Pressure on. Kit goes, diamond goes then we pick up.
Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 08, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
Saying that, there was that Swindon lad a RW we were linked with.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 08:37:30 PMYou sure?Quote from: supersimmo123 on July 08, 2015, 08:07:41 PMeven kits not dumb enough to go with the diamond again.
I think we will play the diamond again, Pringle's interview seemed to suggest he prefers playing in the pockets and not out wide. I can just see it now, 4 games in 1 win, 1 draw and 2 loses. Pressure on. Kit goes, diamond goes then we pick up.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMQuote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Quote from: alexbishop on July 09, 2015, 08:36:34 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMQuote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 10:09:01 AMactually that one did, and as it happens I haven't started one kit out thread yet. But hey let's blindly believe that kits management has no bearing on it and it was all down to the players. Still we will have a shiny new back 4 come the start of the season. Oh wait no we won't, cos our only defensive signing so far was here last season Ashwell.still we can hope that the 2 months without competitive football will make us betterQuote from: alexbishop on July 09, 2015, 08:36:34 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMQuote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
OK fine, I retract my comment, it was too personal. I just get fed up with Ben using every opportunity to take a dig at Kit even when it bears no relevance to teh topic under discussion. It seems to be obsessive.
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 06:03:08 PM
From Daily mail:
Fulham are discussing a deal for Eric Fernando Botteghin.
The 24-year-old is a 6ft 4in tall Brazilian centre back who plays for Groningen in Holland. Fulham have been looking for a commanding defender who is good on the ball and hope Botteghin, who has an Italian passport, can fulfil that role. He scored three goals last season in 36 appearances.
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 06:03:08 PM
From Daily mail:
Fulham are discussing a deal for Eric Fernando Botteghin.
The 24-year-old is a 6ft 4in tall Brazilian centre back who plays for Groningen in Holland. Fulham have been looking for a commanding defender who is good on the ball and hope Botteghin, who has an Italian passport, can fulfil that role. He scored three goals last season in 36 appearances.
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMhavent they all?
Smacks of tony Khan this one
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMWhy?
Smacks of tony Khan this one
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:42:53 PMNoQuote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMhavent they all?
Smacks of tony Khan this one
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 11:07:34 AMQuote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 10:09:01 AMactually that one did, and as it happens I haven't started one kit out thread yet. But hey let's blindly believe that kits management has no bearing on it and it was all down to the players. Still we will have a shiny new back 4 come the start of the season. Oh wait no we won't, cos our only defensive signing so far was here last season Ashwell.still we can hope that the 2 months without competitive football will make us betterQuote from: alexbishop on July 09, 2015, 08:36:34 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMQuote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Think that's a bit personal for a internet forum! Let's play nice...
OK fine, I retract my comment, it was too personal. I just get fed up with Ben using every opportunity to take a dig at Kit even when it bears no relevance to teh topic under discussion. It seems to be obsessive.
Quote from: MJG on July 09, 2015, 08:46:41 PM3 midfielders in the top ten of assists, thats tonys domainQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:42:53 PMNoQuote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMhavent they all?
Smacks of tony Khan this one
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:50:52 PMSo you reckon any player outside that is a scout then and not The analysis team?Quote from: MJG on July 09, 2015, 08:46:41 PM3 midfielders in the top ten of assists, thats tonys domainQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:42:53 PMNoQuote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMSmacks of tony Khan this onehavent they all?
Quote from: MJG on July 09, 2015, 08:56:54 PMif we are buying players based on what they did against us then god help us as we made every team look like barcelona.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:50:52 PMSo you reckon any player outside that is a scout then and not The analysis team?Quote from: MJG on July 09, 2015, 08:46:41 PM3 midfielders in the top ten of assists, thats tonys domainQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:42:53 PMNoQuote from: Jonnoj on July 09, 2015, 08:34:05 PMhavent they all?
Smacks of tony Khan this one
Not the fact that for a start Pringle was the best player in both the games we played against Rotherham and we might get him also based on that?
Things are just not as black and white as you would like(and I'm not just talking about the scouting and signings ) it's a combination of people and inputs that lead to a player joining, not just one man saying buy him. Although I know the conspiracy theorists out there want it that way so they have someone to blame.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Quote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PMthey qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
Groningen us a Dutch club
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 10:57:31 PMMy point was jonnoj said he plays in SwedenQuote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PMthey qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
Groningen us a Dutch club
Quote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 11:00:29 PMyes i was just throwing out some other info tooQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 10:57:31 PMMy point was jonnoj said he plays in SwedenQuote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PMthey qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
Groningen us a Dutch club
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 09:20:35 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 09:20:35 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Quote from: Twig on July 10, 2015, 06:39:08 AMwow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggyQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 09:20:35 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 10, 2015, 08:36:19 AMQuote from: Twig on July 10, 2015, 06:39:08 AMwow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggyQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 09:20:35 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
Quote from: FPT on July 10, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
Quote from: cmg on July 10, 2015, 09:11:01 AMchelseas kezman fits into that bracket too. he destroyed the dutch leagues, and i cant recall him scoring once for chelsea. think we were linked before he went to them too.Quote from: FPT on July 10, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
Yes. I'm a bit suspicious of CBs from the Eredivisie for the same reason as I am now suspicious of 24-goal forwards from the same source.
Quote from: cmg on July 10, 2015, 09:11:01 AMI think the ratio should be for every goal scored in England, it's six they would score in holland.Quote from: FPT on July 10, 2015, 12:47:17 AM
The Eric Botteghin rumours are interesting for, defenders from Holland are few and far between in terms of real defensive quality. Some recent centre backs have done really when from the Eredivise such as Jan Vertonghen, Toby Alderweireld and Virgil van Dijk - it's certainly a different mould also to those we've been linked with, he has no Championship background and is nearly 28, but he matches the profile (seemingly in statistics and style). How his statistics translate to the Championship, you only really know once you do it.
Yes. I'm a bit suspicious of CBs from the Eredivisie for the same reason as I am now suspicious of 24-goal forwards from the same source.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 10:57:31 PMQuote from: westcliff white on July 09, 2015, 10:54:33 PMthey qualified for europe too, so would be a massive step down for him, although we could probably match or better his wages
Groningen us a Dutch club
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 10, 2015, 11:14:26 AM
Besitkas in discussions with Fulham over sale of Amorebieta
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It appears that Besitkas scouts have set up base in South West London of late. Last week they were linked heavily with a move for Kostas Mitroglou and yesterday the Times linked them with a move for Chelsea striker Loic Remy. Now today reports from Turkey are advising that they're negotiating with Fulham over the sale of Venezuelan defender, Fernanado Amorebieta.
The report states that Besktkas president, Rebecca Wood has been in discussions with Fulham over a fee and was quoted a sum of EU 5 million for the defender. That does seem very high for a 30 year old Championship defender and not surprisingly, they've asked for a discount. I'm sure Fulham would be willing to negotiate, especially to remove his salary from the books and it looks like negotiations are ongoing,
The 30 year old defender only played 30 times in his 2 years at Fulham and a move to Turkey could suit all parties.
Quote from: cmg on July 10, 2015, 02:33:59 PMWell, "Orman" translates into forest or woodland so that's understandable. Can't find a translation for "Fikret", believe it's just a first name, would be strange if the English equivalent was Rebecca..
Rather oddly GoogleTranslate renders Fikret Orman (the Besiktas president) as Rebecca Wood, I'm sure some linguist can explain why.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 10, 2015, 08:36:19 AMQuote from: Twig on July 10, 2015, 06:39:08 AMwow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggyQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 09:20:35 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
Quote from: Twig on July 10, 2015, 06:56:12 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 10, 2015, 08:36:19 AMQuote from: Twig on July 10, 2015, 06:39:08 AMwow, you have a great memory recalling something that happened only yesterday. shame you didnt see the wink in the post suggesting it was a joke. and telling people to support another club just shows what kind of a dick you are. and i have stated many times that i dont hate kit, its just i hate that he has been giving another chance as our manager, much the same as when the majority got on ruiz back. and the club has given us two of the worst seasons in decades so yes i will critisize it, but dont confuse that for lack of support when it matters. now jog on twiggyQuote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 09:20:35 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 09:14:19 PMnot all things, just the poor bits.Quote from: fulhamben on July 09, 2015, 08:19:28 AMQuote from: YankeeJim on July 09, 2015, 06:04:33 AMwhich is?Quote from: Twig on July 09, 2015, 05:56:54 AMQuote from: fulhamben on July 08, 2015, 10:11:35 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on July 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AMbecause he hasnt had his defensive ability coached out of him by kit ;)
Just our of interest, Dunk does seem similar to Burn. Why is Dunk so much better than Burn ?
How sad you are.
:plus one: I was beginning to think I was the only one that saw Ben as he is.
Consistently finding fault with all things Fulham.
Which in your case is everything.
I do not believe in blind optimism or completely unconditional support but I do happen to think that supporters should get behind their team, the clue is in the word.
I really wonder whether you are a perpetual troll? I recall in a recent discussion of a potential signing of a defender you said that he would be OK until "Kit coached his ability out of him" or words to that effect. It is that sort of bile, cynicism and hatred of a decent man that leads me to suggest you push off and take your "support" elsewhere. If you think your comments are witty or clever then let me tell you they are not.
And before anyone accuses me of getting personal, I am only following Ben who has taken personal criticism of our manager to new heights.
Reduced to calling me a dick. How eloquent.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 12, 2015, 01:18:57 PM
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BREAKING: #swfc have recently received a bid of £4m for defender Tom Lees from #ffc.
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Quote from: TWFL on July 12, 2015, 01:31:55 PMdepends on whether they want to challange for top 6 though. if they do then i doubt 4 mil is any good to them as every team seems to want to hold onto there best players.Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 12, 2015, 01:18:57 PM
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That's a big sum of money for a Championship team to offer. No doubt clauses in there but still, Wednesday would be silly to refuse
Quote from: fulhamben on July 12, 2015, 01:49:54 PMQuote from: TWFL on July 12, 2015, 01:31:55 PMdepends on whether they want to challange for top 6 though. if they do then i doubt 4 mil is any good to them as every team seems to want to hold onto there best players.Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 12, 2015, 01:18:57 PM
SWFC Transfers @S6Transfers 42m42 minutes ago
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That's a big sum of money for a Championship team to offer. No doubt clauses in there but still, Wednesday would be silly to refuse
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Quote from: spikey norman on July 12, 2015, 11:25:29 AMIf this deal does go through and Sporting take up their purchase option hopefully the agreed figure between two clubs is enough for us to recoup much of our outlay on Mitro.
Portuguese newspaper A Bola reporting that Sporting Lisbon interested in signing Mitroglou after failing to land Ricky van Wolfswinkel from Norwich.
Sporting want to tie up the loan deal by tomorrow which is around £720,000 with a purchase option
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 13, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
Caasasola linked with Genoa
Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Quote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 10:44:35 AMQuote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AMYep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 10:44:35 AMQuote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 10:44:35 AMQuote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Quote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 01:53:37 PMOf course you do, and I think a 50/50 call on signings this summer is a good call.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 10:44:35 AMQuote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
I would hope that 50% of the players we bring in this summer we can take with us into the Prem and the other 50% to be decent Championship squad players who we can move on next season if we do go up. We still have to be a little forward thinking in my opinion.
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AMYep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 10:44:35 AMQuote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AMYep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Quote from: Jonnoj on July 13, 2015, 03:37:51 PMGoalposts moved on McDonald and big bid needed for Dunk.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AMYep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 10:44:35 AMQuote from: alexbishop on July 13, 2015, 10:37:19 AMI'll keep banging this pov, but it's get promoted then you still need to buy 5/6 starters for the prem. The jump in quality is so big now as we have seen.Quote from: fulhamben on July 13, 2015, 12:19:07 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 12, 2015, 11:45:52 PMdoesnt sound like we are casting our net further afield in this window. other than a loose link with the player from the dutch league then it all seems to be from the championship. i want to know why we arent looking at the greek leagues. the finacial melt down there must surely have a knock on effect to their football. there must be some great bargins to be had where clubs will be looking for a bit of capitol to get them through these tough times.
To be honest, £4m for Lees sounds like an incredible amount of money and I for one hope we spend that on a better target..
Yes, I would have thought given Rigg's contacts we would be a little more creative in the market (there is still time though). Yes, Championship experience is important - but will only get us so far - if we get promoted they need to be able to compete in the Prem. Nothing stopping us from pulling some of the best talent out of League 1 - players approaching their peak who have potential to perform well in the league.
Players like Pringle and Cairney may well get us up, but not quite be good enough for PL. What you do then is sell them back to championship clubs who also want promotion. And you then replace them with the quality needed... Who won't join a lower lge team.
The hope in the meantime is that the 3/4 youngsters you have around the matchday squad progress to a point where they are good enough for the PL.
It's a sad state of affairs, but as we saw in the Tigana year, get 100 pts and he still spent 30m in August to improve the squad. And that was back in 2001.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Goalposts moved at last minute on which one? (And thanks for the info btw!)
Quote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PMYou read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players. We had a deal for one and then selling club wanted more on it. As I said we either go back now, later or move on.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AMYep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
In my view, I don't think the Club thought that our bids on either player would be accepted. I also think we have decided how high we are prepared to bid, how long we should wait between bids and whom we should pursue in the meantime. Expect us to return with a further bid for Dunk and, indeed, for McDonald if Wolves continue to drag their heels about giving him the contract for which he is asking.
Even our next bid, however, may not be sufficient. Brighton will know what figure they are prepared to sell at, but if they suspect we are prepared to bid higher than that, they will turn down that figure when we offer it. This is why we have yet to improve upon our last bid - so as not to appear to be too keen. To avoid paying substantially more than Brighton are actually willing to accept, we have to appear to have reached our upper limit around the same figure. It's a game of cat and mouse and there's no guarantee that we will succeed, but whomever we buy this window, it seems we are determined that they should represent value for money.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 13, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
Quote from: spikey norman on July 13, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
Quote from: spikey norman on July 13, 2015, 06:00:26 PMbrighton are hardly our rival
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 05:29:21 PMQuote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PMYou read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players. We had a deal for one and then selling club wanted more on it. As I said we either go back now, later or move on.Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AMYep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
In my view, I don't think the Club thought that our bids on either player would be accepted. I also think we have decided how high we are prepared to bid, how long we should wait between bids and whom we should pursue in the meantime. Expect us to return with a further bid for Dunk and, indeed, for McDonald if Wolves continue to drag their heels about giving him the contract for which he is asking.
Even our next bid, however, may not be sufficient. Brighton will know what figure they are prepared to sell at, but if they suspect we are prepared to bid higher than that, they will turn down that figure when we offer it. This is why we have yet to improve upon our last bid - so as not to appear to be too keen. To avoid paying substantially more than Brighton are actually willing to accept, we have to appear to have reached our upper limit around the same figure. It's a game of cat and mouse and there's no guarantee that we will succeed, but whomever we buy this window, it seems we are determined that they should represent value for money.
Quote from: spikey norman on July 13, 2015, 06:00:26 PMI doubt Chris Houghton will have much of a say in it, if we offer the right money. Rarely nowadays, that Managers control who comes and goes at a club. That seems to be done behind the scene's by the men in suits. If Houghton doesn't like it, then they will simply work with another Manager.
Last week in Brighton's local paper The Argus Chris Hughton was quoted as saying that Dunk will not be sold to a rival Championship team
Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 05:29:21 PMQuote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PMQuote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
You read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players.
Quote from: Arthur on July 14, 2015, 02:57:55 AMTalks, did not specify players did I?Quote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 05:29:21 PMQuote from: Arthur on July 13, 2015, 04:43:24 PMQuote from: MJG on July 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on July 13, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
Guessing the McDonald and Dunk talks have fallen through mate? Gone very quiet, would love Dunk
Yep, goal posts moved at last minute on one. Need to either go back with big bids, wait till end of window and go back or move on.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how we can have been in talks with either player when the clubs to whom they are contracted have yet to accept a bid from us. Perhaps someone can explain how we were supposedly close to signing McDonald a week-or-so ago.
You read an awful lot into two lines.... Never mentioned talks with players.
I certainly tried to read only what was in front of my eyes. Maybe the ol' mince pies are letting me down, but I see Hillingdon asking you whether talks have fallen through.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AM
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AMWe need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AMwhy does he have to be english and young?Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AMWe need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 10:58:12 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AMwhy does he have to be english and young?Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AMWe need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 11:04:01 AMwouldnt that rule garbutt out then as i dont think he has any championship experience and only 4 caps for evertonQuote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 10:58:12 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AMwhy does he have to be english and young?Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AMWe need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
Looking at 99% of our targets, they generally fit that criteria (or at least British).
I think because Kit wants players who can gel quickly to the Championship and are similar to our current bunch, that seems to be the general type targeted this window.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 11:13:25 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 11:04:01 AMwouldnt that rule garbutt out then as i dont think he has any championship experience and only 4 caps for evertonQuote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2015, 10:58:12 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 10:40:11 AMwhy does he have to be english and young?Quote from: grandad on July 14, 2015, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 14, 2015, 09:52:52 AMWe need someone with more experience. We have U 21s of our own.
Roberto Martinez has just said he intends to let Luke Garbutt (England U21 LB) head out on loan. He'd prefer a Premier League club, but the primary objective is to get him the most playing time.
We should definitely be looking at him! Could be the solution to our LB problem...
To an extent I agree, but Garbutt has progressed a lot further than most of our youngsters, has deputised Leighton Baines (arguably the best LB in England for the past 5 years) and (particularly on loan) won't cost a heap.
I'd rather we buy Husband, but I'm not sure how receptive Boro are to that deal, and the only other LB we've been linked with didn't seem to do so great in the Championship last season with Brighton... Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough, but the list of young English LBs with the ability to help us get promoted, who would be available to join us, doesn't seem that long...
I think Garbutt is worth a shout, but can see the argument that another season loaning someone else's LB isn't ideal.
Looking at 99% of our targets, they generally fit that criteria (or at least British).
I think because Kit wants players who can gel quickly to the Championship and are similar to our current bunch, that seems to be the general type targeted this window.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 15, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
15 Jul 2015 13:33:52
After all the huffing and puffing,Fulham up
offer for Wed's Tom Lees.
Bunny Rabbit
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 15, 2015, 05:49:58 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 15, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
15 Jul 2015 13:33:52
After all the huffing and puffing,Fulham up
offer for Wed's Tom Lees.
Bunny Rabbit
Funny. I would've expected a rumor like this to come from The Big Bad Wolf.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2015, 04:19:19 PMQuote from: snarks on July 16, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
I would so like this to be true.
So would I. If my horse wasn't wearing his nose bag, I would gallop down to Motspur Park right now to investigate.
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 16, 2015, 10:49:33 PMi dont think that is a reputable source though. only has 750 followers, and is following 2.
MBS have just tweeted...
@MBS_Sport: Rumour at the moment is that Dunk is on his way to Fulham for £4.5m, still early days on the rumour though. We'll see...#BHAFC #FFC
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2015, 05:33:55 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 16, 2015, 04:50:28 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 16, 2015, 04:19:19 PMWhat does a mammoth need with a horse?Quote from: snarks on July 16, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
I would so like this to be true.
So would I. If my horse wasn't wearing his nose bag, I would gallop down to Motspur Park right now to investigate.
I was going to give the Horse a lift.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
make of this what you will, but sarah brookes took a photo of the cottage today, so i replied with are you showing new players what they will be playing on if they sign for us. she favorited my tweet. so maybe a signing is imminent or maybe not
Quote from: MJG on July 17, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PMhave you seen something or are you just throwing it out there
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PMGot to be sustainable somehow!...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PMwe are more than sustainable now.Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PMGot to be sustainable somehow!...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 17, 2015, 01:43:53 PMQuote from: MJG on July 17, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
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Yep. I have just left MP.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:45:55 PMIf we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PMwe are more than sustainable now.Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PMGot to be sustainable somehow!...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 17, 2015, 03:58:21 PMI don't think we will but sometimes players put clubs into positions and the best option is to sell. Football these days is such a players orientated game ever since the bosman ruling, so can be so hard for the clubsQuote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:45:55 PMIf we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PMwe are more than sustainable now.Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PMGot to be sustainable somehow!...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 17, 2015, 04:00:12 PMSterling is a prime example. Liverpool wanted him to stay, he wanted to go, they got a great offer and he left.Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 17, 2015, 03:58:21 PMI don't think we will but sometimes players put clubs into positions and the best option is to sell. Football these days is such a players orientated game ever since the bosman ruling, so can be so hard for the clubsQuote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:45:55 PMIf we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PMwe are more than sustainable now.Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PMGot to be sustainable somehow!...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:20:34 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
Quote from: westcliff white on July 17, 2015, 04:10:56 PMAll honesty have no idea. Someone did say something to me earlier which intimated something was happening, but apart from that nowt to go on.
MJG these twitter rumours about Dunk are they any where near true? I know the deal was off a while back so just curious
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 17, 2015, 03:58:21 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:45:55 PMIf we sell LVC I give up - it will show that we have no ambition whatsoever!Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:43:45 PMwe are more than sustainable now.Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PMGot to be sustainable somehow!...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:35:39 PMso we can sell him next year then. we would be dumb to lose roberts and lvc in one window.
They were linked with him in January and he only has 2 years left.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 17, 2015, 04:26:12 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:20:34 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:38:06 PMand fail? they have been very good at winning trophies lately. i wouldnt mind failing like themQuote from: Craven Mad on July 17, 2015, 04:26:12 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:20:34 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Man City money is just too good to pass up. He's a quality player. I just don't think he's going to progress playing for them. They'll continue spending and spending on players while they chase titles and fail and he'll eventually be overlooked and on the bench.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 17, 2015, 04:39:47 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:38:06 PMand fail? they have been very good at winning trophies lately. i wouldnt mind failing like themQuote from: Craven Mad on July 17, 2015, 04:26:12 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 17, 2015, 04:20:34 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Thought that he'd stated that he was staying. Or, am I thinking of someone else?
He did. But there've been photos taken of him arriving at City's premises for a medical... He's such a flake.
Man City money is just too good to pass up. He's a quality player. I just don't think he's going to progress playing for them. They'll continue spending and spending on players while they chase titles and fail and he'll eventually be overlooked and on the bench.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on July 17, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
LVC to Villa to replace Delph?
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 08:36:01 AMyeeessssssssss
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 08:36:01 AM
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 08:36:01 AM
Not read it but the Sun have reported that Bournemouth want to sign Scott Parker. Don´t get this one.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 18, 2015, 11:05:01 AMi dont think kevin is an actual dm though, more like a deep lying midfielder. ie more of a murphy than a dickson or papa diop typeQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Agree with this completely.
If we shift Scotts wages - and get a small fee too - we might be able to push-the-boat-out and stump up the extra Wolves want for Kevin McDonald
Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2015, 11:09:22 AMWhilst se have a lot of MF players, McDonald is exactely that still missing. Breaks up play - give it to the offsensive player. Very mobile tall and got good experience. LVC could play this role, however I prefer LVC going forward. LVC has in fact got everything if he can find the form of last season. Potentially an amazing player and alongside Cairney, OHara, Pringle we would have a superb midfield.Quote from: Craven Mad on July 18, 2015, 11:05:01 AMi dont think kevin is an actual dm though, more like a deep lying midfielder. ie more of a murphy than a dickson or papa diop typeQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
If Parker goes, then we'd definitely need another DM.
Agree with this completely.
If we shift Scotts wages - and get a small fee too - we might be able to push-the-boat-out and stump up the extra Wolves want for Kevin McDonald
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 18, 2015, 11:36:53 AM
Think we'd be sad to lose Parker. Will make one of the best coaches in the near future. His experience, commitment and passion for the game alone pays for his wages despite his legs not being 100% anymore.
What he still offers in terms of teaching and experience is priceless. But, I'd wish him all the best if he did leave. A lovely area to retire in and close to relation, Harry Arter.
If he left, I'm sure he'd get a lovely send off from the Fulham fans. Absolute true gent and the perfect role model for anyone growing up in the game.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 18, 2015, 11:36:53 AM
Think we'd be sad to lose Parker. Will make one of the best coaches in the near future. His experience, commitment and passion for the game alone pays for his wages despite his legs not being 100% anymore.
What he still offers in terms of teaching and experience is priceless. But, I'd wish him all the best if he did leave. A lovely area to retire in and close to relation, Harry Arter.
If he left, I'm sure he'd get a lovely send off from the Fulham fans. Absolute true gent and the perfect role model for anyone growing up in the game.
Quote from: Khan You Dig It on July 18, 2015, 04:53:52 PM
The latest rumor is that we're only getting £2.5 upfront, in which case, that's a terrible deal.
I can't imagine where the other £8.5 would be coming from in terms of add-ons, but chances are we won't see that money for years if it even comes at all.
Quote from: NJFulham on July 18, 2015, 05:25:41 PMIs that after he wasn't picked again for a match
symons confirmed transfer request from roberts post-match
Quote from: Nero on July 18, 2015, 05:49:14 PMQuote from: NJFulham on July 18, 2015, 05:25:41 PMIs that after he wasn't picked again for a match
symons confirmed transfer request from roberts post-match
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 18, 2015, 06:46:05 PMsurely a youngsters should be playing for us so that we dont have to gamble money on signings
In a way, selling Patrick Roberts to Manchester City justifies our academy - our youngsters should be funding our transfer windows and our football club.
Quite right FTP, its a hard hearted business decision
Roberts will pave the way for many more
Quote from: Riverside on July 18, 2015, 07:32:54 PMso good that city have gone for them instead.
Roberts for Dunk and McDonald ?
If so sounds good to me
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Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 07:51:17 PMI hope it puts the idea into the clubs head that any good young talent aren't left to the last year to talk contract extensions
I hope it doesn´t put ideas in the heads of our other youngsters.
Quote from: Nero on July 18, 2015, 08:37:42 PMSometimes because of the rules with regards contracts that can't be helped.Quote from: grandad on July 18, 2015, 07:51:17 PMI hope it puts the idea into the clubs head that any good young talent aren't left to the last year to talk contract extensions
I hope it doesn´t put ideas in the heads of our other youngsters.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 18, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Quote from: @jolslover on July 18, 2015, 09:40:29 PMa 33 year old midfielder and a winger. would prefer some defendersQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 18, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this so much . Source?
Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2015, 09:48:50 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 18, 2015, 09:40:29 PMa 33 year old midfielder and a winger. would prefer some defendersQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 18, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this so much . Source?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 18, 2015, 09:55:30 PMam i missing something or are you happy to spend more of the budget on our already strong positions?Quote from: fulhamben on July 18, 2015, 09:48:50 PMQuote from: @jolslover on July 18, 2015, 09:40:29 PMa 33 year old midfielder and a winger. would prefer some defendersQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 18, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
17 Jul 2015 19:45:23
Leon Britton & Will Buckley will join Fulham over the next couple of weeks
Not going to lie would love this so much . Source?
(http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/10/facepalm.jpg)
Quote from: @jolslover on July 18, 2015, 10:05:16 PMone will be 33 in two months, do we need another player on the decline. and a winger could be handy, but with pringle,kaca,cole,williams,lvc and cairney on the books, i have to ask why we are even looking in that department.
Fair enough, Defenders are the priority, but both good players nonetheless
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 18, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
FPT... I know you are excited but you should write for the one of the broad sheets - all your posts are sooooo long !
(Before someone says ignore them, I like what the man has to say, but am usually too tired to read all the way through! - too much drink - just wish it could be more to the point )
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Quote from: Joly poly on July 19, 2015, 01:28:32 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PMDon't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 02:55:14 PMthe noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from themQuote from: Chesh on July 19, 2015, 02:48:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PMDon't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 02:58:00 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 02:55:14 PMthe noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from themQuote from: Chesh on July 19, 2015, 02:48:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PMDon't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 03:16:42 PMhe didnt, quite the opposite. but then the players we have shipped out in the last few windows tells a completely different story.Quote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 02:58:00 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 02:55:14 PMthe noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from themQuote from: Chesh on July 19, 2015, 02:48:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PMDon't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
Quote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 03:20:46 PMlet me just add, that i dont think shad will be like mo and make us sell a decent player if a big bid comes in, i think he will be more like a heres your budget, do what you want as long as it balances type of owner. the bees chairman is very hands onQuote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 03:16:42 PMhe didnt, quite the opposite. but then the players we have shipped out in the last few windows tells a completely different story.Quote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 02:58:00 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 02:55:14 PMthe noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from themQuote from: Chesh on July 19, 2015, 02:48:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PMDon't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 01:42:04 PMQuote from: Joly poly on July 19, 2015, 01:28:32 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Not too sure. Don't know enough about him.
BUT - he's a left-footed CAM, and I reckon we've enough of those in Cairney, O'Hara and Pringle.
It's too random to be completely out-of-the-blue, but doesn't seem to fit the profile of what we need nor who we're going for... I'd be surprised if this happens.
Quote from: FPT on July 19, 2015, 03:30:45 PMgod damn, if he can score 4.6 tackles per game, then i wonder how many goals he score ;)Quote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 01:42:04 PMQuote from: Joly poly on July 19, 2015, 01:28:32 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
FULHAM INTERESTED IN TREBEL
Sky sources understand Fulham are interested in signing Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel.
The 24-year-old will cost around £1.2m and has three years left on his current deal in Belgium.
Is any good?
Not too sure. Don't know enough about him.
BUT - he's a left-footed CAM, and I reckon we've enough of those in Cairney, O'Hara and Pringle.
It's too random to be completely out-of-the-blue, but doesn't seem to fit the profile of what we need nor who we're going for... I'd be surprised if this happens.
I've just been looking at a tonne of different things on him, from his stats in the Europa League to his FIFA and FM ratings via some Standard Liege highlights. He's a central midfielder with a lot of energy and pace, in the Europa League he scored 4.6 tackles a game and 3.2 interceptions (over 5 games) and 6 assists from 21 Belgian League games, 10 Belgian League play offs and those 5 Europa League matches for Standard.
His stats, early glimpses of style and whatnot reminds me a bit of Harry Arter - bags of energy and lots of pressing, hustling and harrying; who can then move the ball up the pitch. Though that's from very basic pieces of information so it may not be accurate whatsoever.
I do agree that it's so obscure to be written off as nonsense. No one cares about reporting Championship transfers unless they're fairly concrete. The Charlton Belgians have generally done quite well in the Championship.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 03:27:21 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 03:20:46 PMlet me just add, that i dont think shad will be like mo and make us sell a decent player if a big bid comes in, i think he will be more like a heres your budget, do what you want as long as it balances type of owner. the bees chairman is very hands onQuote from: Craven Mad on July 19, 2015, 03:16:42 PMhe didnt, quite the opposite. but then the players we have shipped out in the last few windows tells a completely different story.Quote from: fulhamben on July 19, 2015, 02:58:00 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 02:55:14 PMthe noises coming from their chairman are the opposite to ours. he has stated all along that he wants to keep the best players at his club. so cheap bids will get no one from themQuote from: Chesh on July 19, 2015, 02:48:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 19, 2015, 01:54:13 PMDon't understand the 'fee will suit both clubs bit' - why would £1m suit Brentford?
If we cannot get James Husband, then Jake Bidwell seems to have the credentials for a left back, age 22, 6ft tall and English, and the fee may suit both clubs. Also we really need to resolve this issue of bringing in a centre half of the calibre of Lewis Dunk or Tom Lees. As our defence is cause for concern still.
Would be a good signing (for a realistic bid), but really need one of those centre halves - our current 3 just aren't good enough.
I did say the fee " May " suit both clubs. But I take your point.
When did our chairman say he doesn't want to keep our best players at the club and cheap bids will get anyone from us??
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on July 19, 2015, 08:15:05 PM
Why do we go in with such embarrassingly low bids? £1m for Bidwell?? According to my Bees mate that is beyond derisory
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 19, 2015, 11:20:32 PM
"To try to leave us for a crappy club like fulham over money in my opinion is just greedy. He obviously has no pride. I mean come on he wants to swap from a club with statues of Wright & Cullis to one that puts up Michael Jackson statues"
"fulhams transfer activity so far this year doesn't suggest they are paying silly wages, and will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached. Patrick Roberts is on the verge of leaving. They are a club in decline with one of the worst sets of fans I've ever come across."
etc etc etc
They really don't seem to like us. Someone want to let them know we've not had the MJ statue for 2 years, and that we have one of England's finest players outside our ground? Also, "club in decline" with our "better players about to get poached"?!
Quote from: FPT on July 20, 2015, 01:04:22 AM
I like to think that we're quite an intelligent supporters group (in general). We know where we are, we know our limitations, we don't boast about being too big or complain for being too small. We fight, claw and battle for everything we get in our own unique Fulham way. If you don't get what Fulham is, what it represents and the truly special club we are as you into Craven Cottage, you shouldn't be at a football match.
We're one of 13 professional clubs in the city, with four clubs in the SW area specifically. We drew a decent average of 18,000+ supporters, a percentage of our stadium - a lower attendance but a higher percentage of our capacity than Wolves and Leeds - who have a less crowded catchment area to work in.
It's funny, the Wolves supporter that says "will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached." How's Bakary Sako? An actual key component of their team as opposed to Patrick Roberts? I hate discussions about club size and whatnot, it's so irrelevant to me - it's the footballing 'penis extension' for middle aged men, but we can't be that bad if we've woken the interest of one of their better players - could argue he's more vital for them than Sako was as he's the lynchpin of their midfield.
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 19, 2015, 11:20:32 PMWolves have some decent and some of the dullest and nastiest fans around. This is exactely what I would expect from them, I always suffer agro when I go there.
"To try to leave us for a crappy club like fulham over money in my opinion is just greedy. He obviously has no pride. I mean come on he wants to swap from a club with statues of Wright & Cullis to one that puts up Michael Jackson statues"
"fulhams transfer activity so far this year doesn't suggest they are paying silly wages, and will be weaker next year anyway with their better players just about to get poached. Patrick Roberts is on the verge of leaving. They are a club in decline with one of the worst sets of fans I've ever come across."
etc etc etc
They really don't seem to like us. Someone want to let them know we've not had the MJ statue for 2 years, and that we have one of England's finest players outside our ground? Also, "club in decline" with our "better players about to get poached"?!
Quote from: grandad on July 20, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
Reading through the transfer gossip on the BBC I just can´t believe the sums being quoted for some players I certainly do not have a clue who they are.
I long for the day when the bubble bursts. It is mugs like us who feed this with our Sky subs. We could burst the bubble if we all cancelled out subs but it will never happen sadly.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 20, 2015, 11:11:46 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
It's a long season and I imagine we'll use them all providing they're fit.
Also, Parker might go if rumours are to be believed. One last crack at the Premier League.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 20, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
Well, if the club are unable to purchase the players that they rate at LB for whichever reason, then it would make some sense to loan in a player and spend transfer funds elsewhere (CB's).
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 20, 2015, 11:18:21 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 20, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
Apparently we've met the buyout clause of Trebel.
Sky reporting he's a deep-lying midfielder, also left-footed.
Looks like we have a lot of CM's now.
Where does it say we've met the buy out clause mate? There's a journo on Twitter who covers Belgian football who said just yesterday that he couldn't see him leaving.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 20, 2015, 04:08:12 PMand for those of us who can only read english?
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
(http://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/adrien-trebel-est-convoit-m-gouverneur-l-equipe/1500000000593358/0:135,1364:823-665-335-70/457d4.jpg)
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PMi dont know why we are still messing about with dunk (if indeed we are) isnt it less than 3 weeks till our first game and our defence is worse than it was last year.
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:24:57 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 20, 2015, 04:08:12 PMand for those of us who can only read english?
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
(http://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/adrien-trebel-est-convoit-m-gouverneur-l-equipe/1500000000593358/0:135,1364:823-665-335-70/457d4.jpg)
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:27:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PMi dont know why we are still messing about with dunk (if indeed we are) isnt it less than 3 weeks till our first game and our defence is worse than it was last year.
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
Quote from: Classic94 on July 20, 2015, 04:41:26 PMi doubt anything is going to happen whilst they are on a jolly in austria eitherQuote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:27:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PMi dont know why we are still messing about with dunk (if indeed we are) isnt it less than 3 weeks till our first game and our defence is worse than it was last year.
Brighton still adamant that Lewis Dunk will NOT be sold in this window.
Agreed. At this point we should either get serious (put in an offer closer to their valuation) or move on altogether.
Our defence is still a train wreck - we have no competent LB and serious question marks over all three first team CB's. We also lack a pure defensive midfielder. Lots to be done in the next 3 weeks.
Quote from: Riverside on July 20, 2015, 05:05:14 PMlol, a 21 year old who has played 15 games in the last 3 years.
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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Quote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 05:13:02 PMQuote from: Riverside on July 20, 2015, 05:05:14 PMlol, a 21 year old who has played 15 games in the last 3 years.
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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Quote from: Jeroen on July 20, 2015, 05:18:16 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 05:13:02 PMQuote from: Riverside on July 20, 2015, 05:05:14 PMlol, a 21 year old who has played 15 games in the last 3 years.
@transferdicky: Manchester United defender Reece James is wanted by Nottingham Forest and Fulham on loan #mufc #nffc #ffc
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Mike Rigg knows every kid the the England youth setup, so if Mike wants him he must be good
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 20, 2015, 04:29:28 PMQuote from: fulhamben on July 20, 2015, 04:24:57 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on July 20, 2015, 04:08:12 PMand for those of us who can only read english?
Adrien Trebel, il n'y a pas que Fulham
Convoité par Fulham, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse aussi le FC Séville et la Real Sociedad. Mais le Standard de Liège n'est «pas vendeur».
Comme indiqué ce lundi dans notre journal, relayant la presse anglaise, Adrien Trebel (24 ans) intéresse bien Fulham (D2 anglaise), avec qui des discussions ont été entamées. Selon nos informations, deux clubs espagnols (FC Séville et Real Sociedad) ont aussi pris contact avec le Standard de Liège, pour sonder la disponibilité de l'ancien Nantais, sous contrat jusqu'en 2018. Mais «pas vendeur», le club belge n'a pas l'intention de laisser partir son milieu français cet été, d'autant que celui-ci sort d'une saison très aboutie, ce qui lui a valu d'être élu dans l'équipe type du Championnat et meilleur joueur des Rouges par les supporters.
Les pistes françaises écartées
Supervisé à deux reprises par David Moyes en personne, en fin de saison dernière, Trebel pourrait néanmoins se laisser tenter si une offre intéressante lui parvient. Encore plus s'il a la possibilité de disputer la Ligue des champions, en Andalousie par exemple. Une chose est sûre en revanche, il ne reviendra pas en France tout de suite, malgré l'intérêt manifesté par Reims et Lorient. Contacté, son agent a refusé de s'exprimer tant qu'il n'aurait pas rencontré les dirigeants du Standard. Un rendez-vous a d'ores et déjà été fixé début août.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Adrien-trebel-il-n-y-a-pas-que-fulham/575601)
Adrien Trebel, no Fulham
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PMIsn't he Tunniclffe's twitter mate?
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 21, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 21, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on July 21, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
20 Jul 2015 20:20:36
Lewis Dunk has agreed a move to Fulham for 5M, his medical is on Wednesday
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 21, 2015, 12:23:58 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Essentially, if someone guesses enough transfers and a few happen, instantly they gain credibility apparently.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 21, 2015, 12:34:18 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 21, 2015, 12:23:58 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Essentially, if someone guesses enough transfers and a few happen, instantly they gain credibility apparently.
So if this deal goes through he has a 100% record.
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 02:48:39 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Quote from: Holders on July 21, 2015, 03:42:05 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 02:48:39 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Can't be - it's sceptical.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 04:21:40 PMQuote from: Holders on July 21, 2015, 03:42:05 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on July 21, 2015, 02:48:39 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 12:11:53 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 21, 2015, 12:00:11 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Looks like another dodgy source again:
http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/ (http://mobile.football-rumours.co.uk/)
Why is it?! You boy's are so quick to 'debunk' everything, but that Website has actually been quite good for Fulham transfers this season, in fact, more reliable than any of the main sources. The guy's who posted about Pringle, Cainey, O'Hara and Lonergan, got them spot on, albeit the time scales were slightly out.
Well it's the first time I've ever seen it and it looks pretty bad, and as mentioned, "secretagent81", who also has no other posts on that website when you go on his profile, doesn't sound the most reliable guy in the world. Think it's fairly reasonable to be skeptical.
SKSW6, is that short for SKeptical of SW6 ?!
Can't be - it's sceptical.
It must be in code because that's how he's spelt it!
Quote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
Quote from: beijing ben on July 21, 2015, 05:10:18 PMQuote from: f321ffc on July 20, 2015, 07:16:01 PM
Patrick Bamford on loan anyone?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550 (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/boro-wait-transfer-target-patrick-7645550)
I have in the know middlesbro information that Bamford was on 43,000 a week last season of which boro paid 100 per cent. Maybe this is why we don't loan players from the dark side..
Quote from: Toby Ward-Smith on July 22, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
Just seen reports that third bid for Dunk was accepted, medical done and to be announced tomorrow
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 22, 2015, 09:26:19 AM
Talking to someone last night who knows someone in the know down here in Sussex and he says the Dunk sale is still a possibility, the price has apparently gone to 5 million, some of my brighton supporting friends don't think he is worth it although he is just about their only asset at the club.
Quote from: westcliff white on July 22, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
Kit has said on the latest video (and also after the Crawley game i think) that he hopes for a couple more and they are working on them however of they come off great of not he is happy with what he has (doubt he would say anything else though), also praised the work of Rigg and Mackintosh..
Quote from: westcliff white on July 22, 2015, 11:55:39 AM
Kit has said on the latest video (and also after the Crawley game i think) that he hopes for a couple more and they are working on them however of they come off great of not he is happy with what he has (doubt he would say anything else though), also praised the work of Rigg and Mackintosh..
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Symons obviously wants defenders. Fulham have been trying to sign some all Summer. But nobody at Fulham is going to say ' our defence is a disaster, no disrespect to the lads, so we desperately need players. But just don't tell anybody because the price will go up'
I think sometimes we just want to attack the club out of frustration without aiming at the right target.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 22, 2015, 12:44:27 PMWe have signed one defender. But yes, disappointing if we don't sign any more (CB and LB).
If we go into this new season without signing any defenders, it'll be absolutely suicidal. Can't see how the manager can turn around and say 'He's happy', not unless he's protecting current players, or players coming in.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 22, 2015, 01:00:41 PM
Our defence last season had: Amore, Grimmer, Hoog, Voser, Kavanagh, Turner, Husband, Richards, Burgess, Burn, Hutchinson, Bodurov, Stafylidis, Bettinelli, Joronen, Kiraly, Lee.
17 Players.
Our defence this season has: Amore, Grimmer, Voser, Kavanagh, Richards, Burgess, Burn, Hutchinson, Bodurov, Joronen, Bettinelli, Lonergan.
12 Players.
Our defence last season was appalling. This season we are 5 players lighter across the defence and only one new face who wasn't a part of last year's team (and that player isn't likely to be a starter anyway).
I am starting to get worried.
I know the season is still a way off, and we're getting linked to good players, but the longer we leave it the less chance is they'll be able to have a good preseason. Dunk hasn't been getting played in Brighton's preseason games, so will probably be off the pace.
Our defence was so, so bad last year. It should have been the first area to get strenthened.
IMO we need to bring in 2 starters and someone else to cover, and they need to be signed ASAP.
Please Rigg, make it so!
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 02:17:41 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
£4m for a young proven English CB isn't too high, I wouldn't say?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2015, 02:32:49 PM
Am I stuck in a time warp?
This week we've heard he has had medical,someone
said he signing today.
Now its gone back to we've made a bid...
Quote from: Ordar on July 22, 2015, 02:23:52 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 02:17:41 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Seems like we're being ridiculed for bidding 4m on Dunk.
£4m for a young proven English CB isn't too high, I wouldn't say?
Cant think why anyone would think 4m is too high. Unless we're being ridiculed because its not high enough? He's probably the best centre back in the league
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 12:32:38 PMThat's what I thought earlier. All the clubs monitor each other and if we came across as desperate then up goes the price as soon as they know it's us on the phone.
Symons obviously wants defenders. Fulham have been trying to sign some all Summer. But nobody at Fulham is going to say ' our defence is a disaster, no disrespect to the lads, so we desperately need players. But just don't tell anybody because the price will go up'
I think sometimes we just want to attack the club out of frustration without aiming at the right target.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PMWas in Bradford squad last week I think.Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PMSeems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 22, 2015, 04:22:56 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
On trial at Bradford City. Fans seem quite impressed bizarrely.
Quote from: cmg on July 22, 2015, 04:42:26 PMQuote from: Bronaldinho on July 22, 2015, 04:22:56 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
On trial at Bradford City. Fans seem quite impressed bizarrely.
Well it is Bradford. I was made Lord Mayor there once when I showed them a box of shiny buttons.
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lol...
Quote from: Northern Cottager on July 22, 2015, 03:58:59 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Seems clear to me. We have put in a bid for Lewis Dunk to get ahead of the Prem clubs that want him. This is the first or second or third or fourth bid and he has had one or two or three or four medicals or has never even come close to one. We have to react by law to every bid of news and when this bid is turned down we will be forced to verbally attack Fulham and Symons and anybody else we can think of.
This will have to be repeated until we sign in the last minute a bloke we never heard off to fill in somewhere in defence although it will turn out he is a midfielder by trade.
Has Fotheringham been snapped up yet?
Quote from: NJFulham on July 22, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
dunk not in team tonight for brighton
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 22, 2015, 07:51:40 PMSounds a bit fishy :hook:
What happened to the rumour about Eric Botteghin from Groningen? This petered out. Was it a red herring?
Quote from: f321ffc on July 22, 2015, 08:10:22 PMQuote from: Barrett487 on July 22, 2015, 07:51:40 PMSounds a bit fishy :hook:
What happened to the rumour about Eric Botteghin from Groningen? This petered out. Was it a red herring?
Quote from: f321ffc on July 22, 2015, 07:35:10 PM
Dunk bid rejected apparently .
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/623917178274889728/photo/1
Quote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Lifted from twitter. Rumours still circulating. Of course, if true it may not be us that bought him!
We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 15 hrs15 hours ago
Dunk apparently sold #bhafc
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We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 13 hrs13 hours ago
Dunk rumour came from reliable source of "bloke in bar ten mins before kick off" #bhafc
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 23, 2015, 11:03:03 AMQuote from: Barrett487 on July 23, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Lifted from twitter. Rumours still circulating. Of course, if true it may not be us that bought him!
We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 15 hrs15 hours ago
Dunk apparently sold #bhafc
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We Are Brighton @wearebrighton 13 hrs13 hours ago
Dunk rumour came from reliable source of "bloke in bar ten mins before kick off" #bhafc
Unless i've interpreted that wrong, isn't that second related tweet a p*** take?
Quote from: grandad on July 23, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
Fulham are chasing a £1million deal for Standard Liege midfielder Adrien Trebel
This from The Daily Mail.
Please no more midfielders
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 23, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
SSN saying that Barry Bannan is free to leave Crystal Palace.
He wouldn't be the first name I'd go for, but he plays LM/CM/RM - which is pretty much ideal for our new formation/style of play. He's also in the last year of his contract, still only 25, has Championship experience and speaks the language etc. I think he'd be of a similar standard to Pringle/Cairney/LVC but would add some much-needed competition/depth...
Got a good write-up for his time on loan at Bolton in the Championship last year: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/ (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/)
I don't know, he might not be exactly what we need, but an injury to Cairney/LVC would leave us a little exposed in some key areas.. Might be a good addition if we can get him cheap.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 23, 2015, 10:57:23 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 23, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
SSN saying that Barry Bannan is free to leave Crystal Palace.
He wouldn't be the first name I'd go for, but he plays LM/CM/RM - which is pretty much ideal for our new formation/style of play. He's also in the last year of his contract, still only 25, has Championship experience and speaks the language etc. I think he'd be of a similar standard to Pringle/Cairney/LVC but would add some much-needed competition/depth...
Got a good write-up for his time on loan at Bolton in the Championship last year: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/ (http://www.whoscored.com/Players/70100/)
I don't know, he might not be exactly what we need, but an injury to Cairney/LVC would leave us a little exposed in some key areas.. Might be a good addition if we can get him cheap.
I would have loved him before this window but think we would be over strengthening right now. Decent player.
Quote from: Arthur on July 23, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
I think that the fact we play Brighton in the second game of the season may be something of a sticking point.
Clearly, were Brighton to sell Dunk, it would not be a popular decision with their supporters. Imagine how the criticism towards Hughton and the chairman would intensify if he were to perform well and help us to victory against his old club so early in the campaign.
It may be that Brighton have agreed/will agree a fee with us, but only if we agree to the caveat that he won't depart until the week following the fixture between us.
Quote from: rweller86 on July 22, 2015, 12:46:21 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on July 22, 2015, 12:44:27 PMWe have signed one defender. But yes, disappointing if we don't sign any more (CB and LB).
If we go into this new season without signing any defenders, it'll be absolutely suicidal. Can't see how the manager can turn around and say 'He's happy', not unless he's protecting current players, or players coming in.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 23, 2015, 01:40:06 PM
Something on Twitter about Eisfeld returning to Bochum on a permanent deal.
Not sure how likely this is, but I think it's fair to say we have a heap of midfielders now and Eisfeld isn't going to be one of the first on the teamsheet...
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 25, 2015, 05:17:44 PMHe played for wolves today, so, looking less likely.
Is it just me or is McDonald needed? With Ohara, Parker, tunni and hyndman we are definitely not short of numbers in that position. He may well add quality but why sign Ohara? Don't get me wrong I would be happy if he signed but we will end up with a lot of midfielders on the wage bill without seeing much from them.
Quote from: BedsFFC on July 25, 2015, 06:14:48 PMQuote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 25, 2015, 05:17:44 PMHe played for wolves today, so, looking less likely.
Is it just me or is McDonald needed? With Ohara, Parker, tunni and hyndman we are definitely not short of numbers in that position. He may well add quality but why sign Ohara? Don't get me wrong I would be happy if he signed but we will end up with a lot of midfielders on the wage bill without seeing much from them.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on July 26, 2015, 12:34:51 PM
Ryan Williams has just been shipped off to Barnsley. Real shame, had high hopes for that kid
Quote from: FPT on July 26, 2015, 12:52:59 PM
And I found this last night - Mesca trialling with AEL Limassol: http://t.co/978c3Smp56 (http://t.co/978c3Smp56)
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on July 26, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
Dele Ali on loan is being talked about by some fulham fans on twitter
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 26, 2015, 11:24:51 PMQuote from: jimmyc19 on July 26, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
Dele Ali on loan is being talked about by some fulham fans on twitter
I think he said earlier that he had no intention of going out on loan.
Quote from: MJG on July 26, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I spoke about possibly needing two centre backs on cottage talk yesterday.
It's a worry that Fulham fans look at our three main CB's and can't agree that at least one (the same one) of them is worth a place.
So if we bring ONE and gets injured, misses a game, we end up with same as last year, and I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that any 2 out of those 3 together long term is not good enough.
Hence we need two.
Just to clarify I'm a Dan Burn fan and would prefer him to start, just don't trust the other two at all.
Another crucial meeting today for Kostas #Mitroglou between #Sporting Lisbon and #Fulham representatives.
— Johnny Georgopoulos (@YanniRamone) July 27, 2015
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 27, 2015, 06:56:19 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Really? A loaned in player over a champions league experienced striker we own? Having seen his goals in the u21's and the Greek fans who joined the board when he signed this guy has something. I'm not saying your wrong but I'm not sure your right.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 07:05:20 PMQuote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 27, 2015, 06:56:19 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 27, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
If losing Kostas meant we could get someone like Dwight Gayle in, I'd say that would be an upgrade given our needs/position.
Really? A loaned in player over a champions league experienced striker we own? Having seen his goals in the u21's and the Greek fans who joined the board when he signed this guy has something. I'm not saying your wrong but I'm not sure your right.
I didn't actually say loan, but I'd agree that'd be the most likely route for Gayle right now.
I did also qualify my point, saying that it'd be an upgrade given our needs (a quicker, more terrier-like striker) and our position (the Championship, not Champions League).
I certainly wouldn't argue that Dwight Gayle is a better striker than Kostas Mitroglou, just that Dwight would probably be a better tool for the job we require...
Also - playing the probabilities - I'd rather safer bet and invest in a younger English league talent, than an older Greek league player who even his biggest fans agree isn't the same after an injury.
Having said that, Kostas is an unknown quantity, and could turn out to be the best striker in the league if he stays... I wouldn't be disappointed to see him here when the season begins, but I don't expect it.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 28, 2015, 04:09:57 PMProbably right there but very short on news/rumours at the moment so as you say probably old news. 049:gif
Diagouraga would be a good signing, but weren't we rumoured to be after him months ago?
Seems like the journos are out of ideas and have been reprinting old rumours...
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 28, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
Diagouraga would be a good signing, but weren't we rumoured to be after him months ago?
Seems like the journos are out of ideas and have been reprinting old rumours...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Dunks medical is taking a long time....
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 28, 2015, 05:53:11 PMCairney cost £3.5M mate. I think you need a happy pill.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 28, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Dunks medical is taking a long time....
After Mitrog's insta-injury after signing, Khan's obviously insisting on a minimum 6-month medical for any signing over £2m.
Quote from: Ordar on July 28, 2015, 10:48:40 PM
I wouldn't move OHara from that position
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 29, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
I was told last night that a price has been agreed between Fulham and Brighton for Dunk but his wages are the sticking point, we do not want to break our pay structure. This came from someone connected with Brighton not Fulham.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Berbie on way to Villa...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AMBerba and Adybayor together, lump on Villa for relegation.
Berbie on way to Villa...
Quote from: f321ffc on July 29, 2015, 10:29:52 AMThey just got to hope they win a few at the beginning of the season before they both lose interestQuote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AMBerba and Adybayor together, lump on Villa for relegation.
Berbie on way to Villa...
Quote from: f321ffc on July 29, 2015, 10:29:52 AMExactly my thoughts when i heard it.Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 29, 2015, 10:20:34 AMBerba and Adybayor together, lump on Villa for relegation.
Berbie on way to Villa...
Quote from: Southdowns White on July 29, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
I was told last night that a price has been agreed between Fulham and Brighton for Dunk but his wages are the sticking point, we do not want to break our pay structure. This came from someone connected with Brighton not Fulham.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 29, 2015, 09:46:54 PM
I see Wisdom has just signed for Norwich from Liverpool. Could that path a way for a loan move for Turner?
Quote from: Bronaldinho on July 30, 2015, 09:08:33 AM
Response to Casasola and Oriol comments above.
Oriol Romeu will probably get a deadline day loan abroad. He's a top quality CDM and will probably leave Chelsea next summer anyway. Shame, he's a top talent but I can't see him playing in a 2nd tier league.
Casasola is a strange one. Obviously highly rated when at Boca and was tipped for the top but hasn't really featured heavily at Fulham despite involvement at international level. I wouldn't be surprised if we sold him if the right bid came in, but if he doesn't feature a lot this season in reserves and youth football, you've got to question the long-term progression.
Players like Donnelly, Evans and co will progress faster than him in terms of prospects, it could be argued that Casasola was tipped for bigger things.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2015, 12:49:00 PM
Lopes I am reminded was linked with us years ago when Jol was about.
Quote from: Walsh on July 30, 2015, 02:06:37 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on July 30, 2015, 12:49:00 PM
Lopes I am reminded was linked with us years ago when Jol was about.
Wasn't that Maxi Lopez? the striker...
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 30, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Connor Wickham to Crystal Palace.
Massively speculative, but surely that puts Gayle even closer to the door...
BREAKING NEWS: Sky Sources - Crystal Palace have agreed a fee with Sunderland for striker Connor Wickham #SSNHQ
— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) July 30, 2015
Quote from: VamosFFC on July 31, 2015, 04:42:40 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on July 30, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Connor Wickham to Crystal Palace.
Massively speculative, but surely that puts Gayle even closer to the door...
Sky Sports declaring a fee has been agreed between Palace and Sunderland.BREAKING NEWS: Sky Sources - Crystal Palace have agreed a fee with Sunderland for striker Connor Wickham #SSNHQ
— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) July 30, 2015
Lets hope that gives Gayle another nudge in our direction.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
Quote from: Nero on July 31, 2015, 06:28:48 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
with ross, smith, woodrow, tagget and delembe is he needed
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:33:26 PMQuote from: Nero on July 31, 2015, 06:28:48 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 31, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
Quick question:
Assuming that Kit rated Smith and actually used him regularly as he did toward the end of last season (to good effect, I'd add), is Gayle really more of a scoring threat?
It appears to me that Smith is a double digit goal scorer who could pitch in with 15 goals or so, if we made the best use of him. We seemingly did late in the season prior and that didn't appear to impact Ross's contribution negatively.
Is Gayle truly a "need" player? Or is he more of a "it'd be great to have him as well" player?
with ross, smith, woodrow, tagget and delembe is he needed
exactly. with our current group of forwards, Gayle looks more like a luxury than a need. now if the intent is to loan one or more out then, i could see the need.
I'm hopeful that we are paying far more attention to our needs in central defense
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 31, 2015, 08:06:16 PMGayles pace is something we do not have, but rep,acing Rodgers goals would only take a small step,up from any of our strikers, IMO Rodders was a waste of time, started last season well then reverted to the player we all know
Gayle a luxury??! Oh please, he would score goals and skin players for fun in the Championship, and an addition I'd happily welcome at FFC. To get anywhere near challenging for promotion, we need 3 strikers all contributing with double figures. To date, we've yet to replace Hugo's goals, and there is no guarantee's that either Woodrow, Dembele' or Taggart will hit the ground running. It's a yes please from me!!
Quote from: MJG on July 31, 2015, 08:11:07 PM
I'd take a player with his goals and assists as a waste of time anyday.
Quote from: TrexFFC on July 31, 2015, 09:55:55 PM
Nope I disagree. Glad Rodallega is gone. We either just need to sign someone to replace him or one of the young kids needs to step up. He's 30 years old and we know what he brings to the table. He'll get you a decent amount of goals, but he's largely frustrating when on the pitch.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on July 31, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
Being linked with Jean-Christophe Bahebeck
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 31, 2015, 10:29:58 PM
Kevin Macdonald is still being linked tonight. But might just be lazy reporting.
As for the rumours re Gayle. Would be the difference between play offs and also runs. I can't believe fans genuinely believe that Dembele or Taggart can replace Rodders. I would go as far to say that I would take Gayle over a centre half if we had to.
Jean Christophe Bahebeck is being linked to Prem clubs on loan. So no way is that a possibility.
Quote from: W.G.Fulham on August 01, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Very interesting read that
Quote from: Texas White on August 01, 2015, 02:33:55 PMQuote from: W.G.Fulham on August 01, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Very interesting read that
Your a better man than me, if you can read that
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Quote from: TrexFFC on August 01, 2015, 05:01:47 PM
I don't know what to believe anymore.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
Quote from: f321ffc on August 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 01, 2015, 05:10:48 PMQuote from: f321ffc on August 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 01, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
This would be a disaster...
According to the mirror:
3:49 pm
Slam Dunk!
Ipswich will complete the signing of Lewis Dunk this week.
The Brighton defender is set to arrive at Portman Road for around £5m.
Tractor Boys boss Mick McCarthy is on the lookout for a new defender after Tyrone Mings joined Bournemouth earlier this summer.
Read the article here, seams he is ours , timed at 3.49.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-manchester-united-6174850)
If 1 million above what we offered has given a strong team last season a player we need then I'm disappointed by the negotiators. Would have taken a top player with a bright future off a lower league club. Now a rival who is challenging for top six has signed an (un signable player). I still beleive a defence needs organisation over skill. But we have had three offers refused and now an offer has (only believe that when I hear it) been accepted. I hope we don't regret that next season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2015, 06:03:48 PMI wouldn't rule out hull, they have just got 8 mil for there cb and must be looking
He is 2/5 to join us.
Ipswich not in betting..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2015, 06:03:48 PM
He is 2/5 to join us.
Ipswich not in betting..
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 02, 2015, 12:27:57 AM
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
That's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
Quote from: Tooting legend on August 02, 2015, 01:04:27 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 02, 2015, 12:27:57 AM
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
That's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
Would cost £10million, cant see Tarkowski coming.
Is McDonald needed now?, O'Hara seems to be lined up for that role, despite his career tailing off a bit he has ran games at a higher level than McDonald,who I rate by the way
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 02, 2015, 06:52:02 AMQuote from: Tooting legend on August 02, 2015, 01:04:27 AMWould cost £10million, cant see Tarkowski coming.Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 02, 2015, 12:27:57 AMThat's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
Is McDonald needed now?, O'Hara seems to be lined up for that role, despite his career tailing off a bit he has ran games at a higher level than McDonald, who I rate by the way
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 02, 2015, 10:22:45 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 02, 2015, 06:52:02 AMQuote from: Tooting legend on August 02, 2015, 01:04:27 AMWould cost £10million, cant see Tarkowski coming.Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 02, 2015, 12:27:57 AMThat's a big quote how do you know that he will? and if so is dunk joining? Provide sources.
01 Aug 2015 13:49:16
Kevin McDonald will be a Fulham player when we travel to Cardiff.
Would like to see Dunk and Tarkowski also
RTFFC
Is McDonald needed now?, O'Hara seems to be lined up for that role, despite his career tailing off a bit he has ran games at a higher level than McDonald, who I rate by the way
We need more depth than just O'Hara and McDonald offers a more defensive alternative to Jamie and a better passing range than Scott. I'm not sure the youngsters are ready for this position; controlling the tempo of the game/reading play/holding possession/organising the midfield and defence.
If the role we're expecting these players to play is the link between defense and attack, I'd want more than just one option for a 40-game season. Wouldn't you?
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 02, 2015, 10:17:49 AMif true, then it would seem that kit isnt the man to bring through our youth at all, quite the opposite infact. worrying times ahead
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 11:11:36 AMQuote from: Swiss72 on August 02, 2015, 10:17:49 AMif true, then it would seem that kit isnt the man to bring through our youth at all, quite the opposite infact. worrying times ahead
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AMGreat signing imo. A good Premier League player on his day, better than Glen Murray in any case..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 11:11:36 AMAgree, at this rate all our promising youngsters, that were so good together, will be gone. Back to the drawing board Fulham!Quote from: Swiss72 on August 02, 2015, 10:17:49 AMif true, then it would seem that kit isnt the man to bring through our youth at all, quite the opposite infact. worrying times ahead
Mousa doesn't want to sign a new contract. All over the French press this morning. Claiming is in touch with Lille. Doesn't bode well I am afraid.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Quote from: TWFL on August 02, 2015, 11:36:24 AMits another poxy loan. would much rather keep mitro who is far superior.Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AMGreat signing imo. A good Premier League player on his day, better than Glen Murray in any case..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 02, 2015, 11:42:00 AMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
That would be a very good signing and one that would probably make us play off contenders at least...with a cb actually.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Quote from: PeterFFC on August 02, 2015, 11:54:46 AM
Sky have posted it on their transfer centre now
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 02, 2015, 12:01:02 PM
Don't see why we would get rid of smith. He offers what no one but possibly Mitro (who is most likely going to leave) offers. He is big, tall, and strong. We don't have much height in our team and with pringle and the new Everton LB both with excellent crossing/deadball deliveries he could be very important.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 02, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-striker-dwight-gayle-6179141)
Looks like Dwight Gayle is on his way
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMWhat does it tell you about Kit if he let's smith go?Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PMwhich is still only 5 goals. think mjg posted a stat showing he misses the most chances a while back. we play crap ineffective route one football when he playsQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Quote from: grandad on August 02, 2015, 01:36:19 PMwell if hes that good, he will be nailed on to start for us wont heQuote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:44:58 PMQuote from: grandad on August 02, 2015, 01:36:19 PMwell if hes that good, he will be nailed on to start for us wont heQuote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:44:58 PMQuote from: grandad on August 02, 2015, 01:36:19 PMwell if hes that good, he will be nailed on to start for us wont heQuote from: SKSW6 on August 02, 2015, 01:31:21 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 02, 2015, 01:00:01 PMhow will we replace the 5 goals he scored for us last season. you make it sound like he was our top scorerQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:42:18 AMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 02, 2015, 11:40:06 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on August 02, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
According to the rumour pages,Matt Smith
not in Kits plans and Bristol bound.
Make of it as you will..
Hopefully.
Why?
I like Matt.
I like Matt Smith also, he could do an important job for us with his size and ability to find the net more often than anyone else we have who plays up front, if he is let go, it tells you more about Symons than it does about Smith.
5 goals in 15 games, including only 8 starts (I think).
Name me another Fulham player who can score using either foot & also his head, hold the ball up & lay off for others. I can only think of Smith.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 02, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
If Smith plays the opposition know our game plan, hoof it up to Smith, they then block him out of the game. That maybe League one football but not Championship style.
Quote from: Nero on August 02, 2015, 04:45:19 PMi dont think smiths hold up play is that good, certainly not better than cauleys. and when you are holding on you what a striker to run it into the corners, once again not smiths strong point.Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 02, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
If Smith plays the opposition know our game plan, hoof it up to Smith, they then block him out of the game. That maybe League one football but not Championship style.
Yep with that diamond last year no one knew our game plan.
But when we are hanging on for a draw or a one nil win and getting battered its a good outlet long ball hold it up lay it off either waste time, creates an opportunity or get a set piece that we are so dangerous from and if Burns on the pitch as well 2 6'4 blokes on the pitch mark them.
It not about him starting it about offering something different be able to change our style of play if we aren't doing well. Its about tatics and changing something when things arent going your way it what good managers know about
Quote from: MJG on August 02, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
Just to clarify yet again I have not said sell him or get rid. Fine for me as a plan B, but not a starter, not given the movement we need now with the players we have in midfield. They will be looking for runners and players into space.Something that Smith is not that great about.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 02, 2015, 02:38:37 PM
But the argument from the Smith to go fans is to ignore the empirical evidence that he scores goals and offers good link-play with Ross, and just say "he's rubbish, he should go"... This isn't a debate like "who's our best CB?" as there are useful statistics to quantify what Matt brings to a team, which is being flat-out ignored by those who see a tall striker and instantly brand him "a long-ball lump" - which couldn't be more wrong in this instance.
From my seat, I rate him, I do think Gayle or Mitro would be better options next to Ross, but Matt is a class above Cauley and Moussa (currently), likely to be a 15+ goal striker, can use both feet, causes trouble in the opposition box, useful for defending and attacking set-pieces, is very different from the other strikers we have and won't be costing too much.
I see no benefit in letting him go. Even from the bench or as a rotation option I think he's a valuable squad member.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 10:32:28 AMSuppose it depends who you are LOL, I thought the season before last he was very good and maybe one we should have looked at.Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:37:08 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 10:32:28 AMSuppose it depends who you are LOL, I thought the season before last he was very good and maybe one we should have looked at.Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 12:27:57 PMI believe we are I said once we went down that he was someone we should look at. Agree with you he is being moved on as he is a Warburton man.Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:37:08 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 03, 2015, 10:32:28 AMSuppose it depends who you are LOL, I thought the season before last he was very good and maybe one we should have looked at.Quote from: westcliff white on August 03, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
Stuart Dallas having a medical at Leeds apparently. Thought he was a decent player a couple of years back.
Couple of years back? Before last season no one had heard of him
Are we talking about the same player?
Season before last he was out on loan at Peterborough or Northampton?. Last season was his real breakthrough season. Important player for Brentford and is getting moved on because he is a "Warburton man ".
Quote from: McBride78 on August 03, 2015, 02:00:02 PM
I am not sure if it will be or should be Gayle, but I think we need a striker. Obviously we need defenders, but also a striker. I think Trog would be fine if he stays, but if he goes we need someone a step above Smith/Woodrow/Dembele
Quote from: Ordar on August 03, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
I don't mind the loan, if theres an option to buy. I'm not a fan of loaning players generally
Quote from: FPT on August 03, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Quote from: FPT on August 03, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Quote from: brixology on August 03, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
Sakari Mattila medical? I see that MJG is retweeting reports. Who is that?
Quote from: Chutney on August 03, 2015, 06:48:16 PMQuote from: brixology on August 03, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
Sakari Mattila medical? I see that MJG is retweeting reports. Who is that?
this seasons Mark Fotheringham, purely a squad player, he players defensive midfield.
Quote from: FPT on August 03, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
DWIGHT GAYLE UPDATE -
The Crystal Palace striker has followed a bloke called 'Abz Benco' on Twitter - his bio stating "Senior Neuromusculoskeletal Physiotherapist at Wanstead Clinic and Fulham FC...views are my own."
It well could be putting 2+2 together to make 5, but that to me smells like Dwight Gayle has followed the person/one of the people doing his medical.
https://twitter.com/dwightgayle/following
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 04, 2015, 09:07:34 AM
Another ex The Konch is off to
Bristol City.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 04, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
Richard Osman @richardosman 12m12 minutes ago
I'm hearing that Fulham are buying Nada today. Will have to Google him, presumably a Spanish left back.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 04, 2015, 12:22:40 PMHa!
Richard Osman @richardosman 12m12 minutes ago
I'm hearing that Fulham are buying Nada today. Will have to Google him, presumably a Spanish left back.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 10:34:35 AMI just read A Bola and they have offered a loan deal to us, where they have upped their offer on the buy clause to 6.5 million euros.
Sporting are reported as having offered 6 million euros for The Greek and are close to a deal.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 04, 2015, 02:07:15 PMBrentford central midfielder.Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Who's Douglas?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
"Mick McCarthy just said Dunk is having a medical tomorrow. Douglas has signed and Fulham wanted him, but he persuaded him to join them."
Quote from: westcliff white on August 04, 2015, 01:14:15 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 10:34:35 AMI just read A Bola and they have offered a loan deal to us, where they have upped their offer on the buy clause to 6.5 million euros.
Sporting are reported as having offered 6 million euros for The Greek and are close to a deal.
A week or so ago it was reported that the issue was we wanted the clause on the contract to have the buy option at 7 million pounds and Sporting wanted that clause to be 5 million euros.
Quote from: jayffc on August 04, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
Guys lying. Here to ruin his 'joke' for the second time on a second board.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:16:30 PMQuote from: jayffc on August 04, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
Guys lying. Here to ruin his 'joke' for the second time on a second board.
Quote from: jayffc on August 04, 2015, 02:48:12 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 02:16:30 PMQuote from: jayffc on August 04, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
Guys lying. Here to ruin his 'joke' for the second time on a second board.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PMIMHO Gayle is not worth anything close to £10M. OK as a loan but not to buy....Keep the Trog.
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 04, 2015, 05:34:05 PM
Fulham sign Mattila, a defensive midfielder. Assume that is the McDonald chase over then. We went from being willing to pay nearly £2million pound for McDonald to paying £250k for Matilla who is presumably our second choice on the list.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/04/fulham-sign-mattila (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/04/fulham-sign-mattila)
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2015, 05:55:09 PM100% agree, its a small gamble which won't cost us a lot.
Why are people having such a negative reaction to someone they've never seen play? Also why are they linking this signing to an apparent lack of intention to sign players like dunk? Talk about a knee jerk reaction...
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
Why are people having such a negative reaction to someone they've never seen play? Also why are they linking this signing to an apparent lack of intention to sign players like dunk? Talk about a knee jerk reaction...
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 04, 2015, 06:03:32 PM
Blimey ...... 100 pages, mostly fuelled by Gossip....
What are we like??
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PMthat should help the half time shows.
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign CrystalPalace striker DwightGayle.
Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2015, 05:13:00 PM
Boro are going Sh1t or bust for promotion. I wouldn´t like to be in their position if they miss out. Very foolish way to go about it. I seem to remember another club near us try to buy their way with a huge wage bill.
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PMthat should help the half time shows.
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign CrystalPalace striker DwightGayle.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 07:47:27 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PMthat should help the half time shows.
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palaces former record-signing has been the clubs top scorer in each of the two seasons hes spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, its now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign CrystalPalace striker DwightGayle.
It has been a too long time with no peace of mind and I'm waiting for the times to get better.......on the other hand..... don't it make my brown eyes blue.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 07:47:27 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 04, 2015, 04:40:05 PMthat should help the half time shows.
More gossip re Gayle -
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle.
According to a report by the Daily Mail, the Eagles are looking to sell their reserve striker for a fee in the region of £10m, and all four mentioned clubs are looking to bring in the Englishman.
Palace's former record-signing has been the club's top scorer in each of the two seasons he's spent at Selhurst Park, but has never been able to nail down a place in the starting XI, with only 19 Premier League starts to his name.
Now, with the arrival of Connor Wickham from Sunderland, it's now looking increasingly likely that Gayle will be leaving.
Fulham are hoping to negotiate a loan deal for the striker, but Palace would rather a permanent sale, and have already turned down an offer from Bournemouth who remain keen.
Rangers want Gayle to replace Charlie Austin should he leave the club, but Middlesbrough lead the race as they are able to offer Gayle the strongest wage packet as part of their promotion project.
Bournemouth, QPR and Middlesbrough have joined Fulham in the race to sign CrystalPalace striker DwightGayle.
It has been a too long time with no peace of mind and I'm waiting for the times to get better.......on the other hand..... don't it make my brown eyes blue.
Quote from: Ordar on August 04, 2015, 10:36:21 PM,
Boro are really going for it. They've seen the huge increase in premiership money in 16/17 and decided to take a gamble and try and get there.
I actually thought more teams would go that way. It's so important to go up this season as I keep saying
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 05, 2015, 11:04:49 AM
Blackburn have turned down the latest bid from Boro for Rhodes. So Gayle may well be on his way there.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 01:03:40 PMAgree he did ok for us, think we have upgraded with Cairney and OHara though.
Danny Guthrie to Blackburn - could be a good signing for them I reckon. Big step-down from Cairney, but did alright while on loan for us last year.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 05, 2015, 01:32:02 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 01:03:40 PMAgree he did ok for us, think we have upgraded with Cairney and OHara though.
Danny Guthrie to Blackburn - could be a good signing for them I reckon. Big step-down from Cairney, but did alright while on loan for us last year.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 02:43:04 PMNot really a striker is he
Hear Kevin Prince Boateng has failed his medical at Sporting, expecting a new bid for Kostas...
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 05, 2015, 03:00:07 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 05, 2015, 02:43:04 PMNot really a striker is he
Hear Kevin Prince Boateng has failed his medical at Sporting, expecting a new bid for Kostas...
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 05, 2015, 05:06:26 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
I agree.
I feel many foreign players dismiss 2nd tier football. However, the claim that premiership is the best league in the world is clearly rubbish but I'd argue that the championship must be the best 2nd tier in the world.
At the top end, its a bloody fun league. I think if Kostas gave it a go, he'd love it. Clearly, promotion would be the key factor.
I bet if you asked Louis Saha what was one of his seasons which he enjoyed most, that season must run high. It was for me.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 05, 2015, 05:14:14 PMQuote from: BedsFFC on August 05, 2015, 05:06:26 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
With Kostas, I really don't get why we're even considering selling him. He wants to play in a bigger league, then he should show his desire on the field for us for a season in the attempt to get promoted. We say that we want promotion, then why not issue a "hands off our player" and play, arguably the striker with the best CV in the league.
I keep hearing that this is the last season before the competitive nature of this league begins being destroyed by huge parachute payments for relegated PL teams.
There needs to be a reasonable bit of "go for it" in our approach to this season, I believe. I'm not saying that we are sitting on our hands, far from it. But, if we believe in Kostas' abilities, then we should act on that.
I understand that adding Gayle and his speed would give another wrinkle to our attack but, if rumors are to be believed, we only want a loan where others are willing to buy. If it's not clear that we'll sign the talented speed player, then why give up the proven CL striker?
My .02
I agree.
I feel many foreign players dismiss 2nd tier football. However, the claim that premiership is the best league in the world is clearly rubbish but I'd argue that the championship must be the best 2nd tier in the world.
At the top end, its a bloody fun league. I think if Kostas gave it a go, he'd love it. Clearly, promotion would be the key factor.
I bet if you asked Louis Saha what was one of his seasons which he enjoyed most, that season must run high. It was for me.
Saha was 22? when he came to Fulham, bit of an unknown entity, didn't do well on loan at Newcastle, was playing for Metz. Yes he smashed the league a possibly enjoyed it, but Kostas is a completely different entity. He came to Fulham boasting Champions League experience, wanting Premiership football, plus he's 27 without time on his side.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:09:47 PMsorry but when did it ever look like it was? Forget what the three amigos said, and when did our transfer dealings make us look like contenders. We are weakening our squad to the cheers of some
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 07:14:11 PMQuote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:09:47 PMsorry but when did it ever look like it was? Forget what the three amigos said, and when did our transfer dealings make us look like contenders. We are weakening our squad to the cheers of some
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
Quote from: Nero on August 05, 2015, 07:19:55 PM
perhaps with the trog gone we can afford Dunks wages demands,
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:18:29 PMyes I can get that. I'm way too negative and that's why I think like I do. Unfortunately the things that we are doing of late reinforce my fearsQuote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 07:14:11 PMQuote from: Sgt Fulham on August 05, 2015, 07:09:47 PMsorry but when did it ever look like it was? Forget what the three amigos said, and when did our transfer dealings make us look like contenders. We are weakening our squad to the cheers of some
Right now its not seeming like promotion is the goal. Lrts hope that changes by the end of the transfer window, though I don't think that it will.
When it was possible that we were going to hang on to Mitroglou and/or bring in Gayle and sign Dunk and maybe another CB before the start of the season. The championship is easy if you make it so. I guess the disappointment is my fault though for being naive enough to think things may change though.
Of course all of the above could still happen before the window shuts, but let's be honest, it probably won't!
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 05, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
If the window was to end tonight, how would people rate it?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 05, 2015, 07:34:36 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 05, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
If the window was to end tonight, how would people rate it?
With Kostas gone, my rating would be "Poor", given the stated ambition(s).
Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 05, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
Sambou's on trial at Bolton!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PMWhat is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 11:06:01 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PMWhat is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 05, 2015, 11:07:43 PMnot really. I am one of those few that you mentioned. I can see how we are stripping the squad of quality, and I don't see what you do to suggest that we will some how magically reassemble a decent squad.Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 11:06:01 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PMWhat is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
#1 case in point.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PM
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 06, 2015, 09:40:24 AM
06 Aug 2015 05:16:48
Rumour doing the rounds last night,Fulham
have turned their attention to Sunderland
Striker Steven Fletcher.
Only stumbling block is wages,but
he is keen on the move.
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 06, 2015, 10:49:56 AMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Even if we don't get all of the Pat money up front (I think it was maybe an initial £4m), we've also saved the wages of Bryan/Rod and possibly Mitro too (plus his loan fee) which - if all 3 were on £45k p/w and £1m loan fee received - is another £8m.
I don't want us to be stupid and splash cash left-right-and-centre, but there's surely some more wriggle-room for a bit more spending than we've done. Particularly when most feel we're just 2/3 players from a proper promotion challenge, you'd think it'd be worth getting a few extras in.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 06, 2015, 09:55:15 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 06, 2015, 09:40:24 AM
06 Aug 2015 05:16:48
Rumour doing the rounds last night,Fulham
have turned their attention to Sunderland
Striker Steven Fletcher.
Only stumbling block is wages,but
he is keen on the move.
Fletcher's been crap for years now. More interested in cars that goals.
If Mitro goes and Gayles not an option I'd rather we stick with what we've got or go for someone like Gary Hooper, who was scoring regularly last year, is nearing the end of their contract and could do a job in this league.
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2015, 11:12:50 AMQuote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
So when we sign a good player it's well done rigg but when we miss out on one its Kit's fault? Some of you will find any excuse to bash our manager.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AMWe have not received 11m, about half of that is future payments on how he does.
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2015, 11:23:37 AMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AMWe have not received 11m, about half of that is future payments on how he does.
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Quote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 11:25:37 AMQuote from: MJG on August 06, 2015, 11:23:37 AMQuote from: jelmo on August 06, 2015, 10:42:43 AMWe have not received 11m, about half of that is future payments on how he does.
The baffling thing is that we received 11m for Roberts.... Where has that money gone? Are we just selling assets and pocketing the cash without using it to strengthen the team? So odd. How much have we actually paid for players this window? 4m at a push... Maybe less.
Still though... Even with half of that cash we should be able to afford a cb.
Quote from: Chutney on August 06, 2015, 11:12:50 AMQuote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
So when we sign a good player it's well done rigg but when we miss out on one its Kit's fault? Some of you will find any excuse to bash our manager.
Quote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on August 06, 2015, 12:43:31 PMQuote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Agree. Kit doesn't strike me as an inspiring motivational manager at all. Grey man syndrome, rather dull.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on August 06, 2015, 12:43:31 PMQuote from: Nero on August 06, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
I watch the telly see you young mangers like Howe and Monk talking sense looking professional and showing ambition for their clubs then I watch our videos and see Kit just not looking or sounding the part. Is it me but is he part of the problem why we aren't signing the players we want can he not sell the dream of Fulham back in the top flight. If ture 2 hours with Gayle after the Palace match how could we let him leave without signing surely Rigg and Kit must have been able to outshine Middlesbrough. Christ the lad wouldnt even have to move home to be with us.
Agree. Kit doesn't strike me as an inspiring motivational manager at all. Grey man syndrome, rather dull.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 06, 2015, 07:25:14 PMFrom Brighton forum, comment about fans forum tonight at the Amex
Not unusual to be interest in good players. Every player has a price, and while we want Lewis to stay I can't guarantee he will. #BHAFC quote from Brighton chairman
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 06, 2015, 11:26:33 PMThat'll be him gone next year then!
Not really transfer news but good news nonetheless - Lucca de la Torre signed his first pro deal today.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 05, 2015, 11:06:01 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 05, 2015, 10:52:10 PMWhat is your faith based on though? It's not on our managers previous experience of getting things done. Nor is it on a reliance of our billionaires spending power to force us up the table. What exactly are we being patient for
You people amaze me, the window does not shut for over another 3 weeks and it's all doom and gloom already wait until the window shuts then if it does not meet your expectations then start having a moan. Have faith.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PMJust because they had talks doesn't mean they went well. Pat Roberts had talks with us and even bought his parents with him, he is dead to me now
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 07:54:54 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PMJust because they had talks doesn't mean they went well. Pat Roberts had talks with us and even bought his parents with him, he is dead to me now
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 08:19:07 AMwell personally I couldn't give a flying ahem about some city kid. Especially one that didn't care enough about usQuote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 07:54:54 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PMJust because they had talks doesn't mean they went well. Pat Roberts had talks with us and even bought his parents with him, he is dead to me now
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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He is "dead to you"???
Whether or not you're happy with his decision you should be wishing him the best of successes - we've only got £4-5m up front, the rest is based on performances and maybe a sell-on too.
Good luck, Pat, even if just so we can get some more cash from the deal!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PMIf Palace want £10m and won't be open to a loan as reported, then we won't be in for him.
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Quote from: bucksfulham on August 07, 2015, 09:03:22 AMGood id rather go knocking on Blackburns door at that kind of price to buyQuote from: BestOfBrede on August 06, 2015, 09:33:07 PMIf Palace want £10m and won't be open to a loan as reported, then we won't be in for him.
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On Sky they have just reported that there are 3 teams interested in Gayle...
No mention of Fulham at all!
So much got the ITK's here and the 2 hours of talks that "apparentlŷ" happened at the end of the friendly!
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Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AMtigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 07, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
agree MJG if that was the case get Rhodes. But assuming we go up maybe the club are thinking we have Mitro coming back can we sustain 3 x 10+ million strikers (going on reported fees which bare no semblance to actuality)
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AMQuote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AMtigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:41:29 AMwell yes. But I don't believe that we have any real ambition to make it into the top 6. Mo wanted prem football and paid for it. Shad says he does, but doesn't look like he will gamble any money on trying to get it.Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AMQuote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AMtigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Yes, he did that but he also brought in PL-quality players into a 2nd-tier team. This time around, the club seems to be shifting those players out in order to bring in 2nd-tier players "with Championship experience".
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:44:34 AMQuote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:41:29 AMwell yes. But I don't believe that we have any real ambition to make it into the top 6. Mo wanted prem football and paid for it. Shad says he does, but doesn't look like he will gamble any money on trying to get it.Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AMQuote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AMtigana for one. He made lots of average players into outstanding ones for us
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Yes, he did that but he also brought in PL-quality players into a 2nd-tier team. This time around, the club seems to be shifting those players out in order to bring in 2nd-tier players "with Championship experience".
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AMMain reason is money, then you had Tigana and his coaching team and finally we were a team on the up after recent promotions and money being thrown at PL players to join.
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AMI think Alfayed wrote off £200M in debts he built up. I think Khan wants to do things in a more buiness like way and minimise the debt.
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 09:50:26 AMQuote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
You can expect a team's top, top assets to get sold on relegation - mainly to save wages etc. Mitro/Hugo/Amo/Bryan/Stek will have been on the highest wages - shifting those probably saved in the region of £10m in wages per year.
Our main problem is that we had a strong team [more than good enough for this league] but most of our decent players were ditched by Felix and replaced with dross. Now trying to attract decent players is tough as we don't have the premier league status, nor a good enough squad to convince players they'll only be in the Championship for one year.
Stockdale is the exact sort of keeper we need to be challenging with Betts. Heitinga/Hangeland are better CBs today than any of our current options. Richardson is the LB we need in this league. Kasami would boss the box-to-box midfield role or any of the AM roles we're using this season. Dejagah would offer the pace/skill we miss on the right of midfield. Even Baird, who went slightly earlier, is now captaining the title favourites and he wasn't even one of our best players that year - he's exactly the sort of DM we need right now.
Felix did some massive damage to our team and I think we're still in the process of trying to recover, but I'm expecting it to be a few more years of building before we're back on track.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 09:50:26 AMBut most of these players you quote would be unaffordable from a wages point of view unless Khan was prepared to risk FFP and huge financial loss, which he does not want. I personally much prefer our new much younger squad with potential to improve. We need one or two central defenders and maybe a striker, however if Dembele comes good this season it could make a massive difference.Quote from: Holders on August 07, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
In my undoubted ignorance, what I can't understand is why under Tigana we had a team that outclassed all others in the division, full of players who could (and did) hold their own in the PL whereas, this time around, quality players from the relegated team (e.g. Dejagah) had to be shifted out of the door with unseemly speed and the rest sought to be loaned out or disposed of e.g Mitro, Amo, Ruiz (I said sought) etc.
What's so different that we cannot sustain such quality players in a team that (allegedly) aspires to promotion. Notwithstanding that the players didn't come here to be relegated, from the club's point of view is it just FFP or am I missing something obvious in my naivety?
You can expect a team's top, top assets to get sold on relegation - mainly to save wages etc. Mitro/Hugo/Amo/Bryan/Stek will have been on the highest wages - shifting those probably saved in the region of £10m in wages per year.
Our main problem is that we had a strong team [more than good enough for this league] but most of our decent players were ditched by Felix and replaced with dross. Now trying to attract decent players is tough as we don't have the premier league status, nor a good enough squad to convince players they'll only be in the Championship for one year.
Stockdale is the exact sort of keeper we need to be challenging with Betts. Heitinga/Hangeland are better CBs today than any of our current options. Richardson is the LB we need in this league. Kasami would boss the box-to-box midfield role or any of the AM roles we're using this season. Dejagah would offer the pace/skill we miss on the right of midfield. Even Baird, who went slightly earlier, is now captaining the title favourites and he wasn't even one of our best players that year - he's exactly the sort of DM we need right now.
Felix did some massive damage to our team and I think we're still in the process of trying to recover, but I'm expecting it to be a few more years of building before we're back on track.
Quote from: snarks on August 07, 2015, 10:14:07 AM
Interesting last few posts (deserve a thread of their own)..... but where's the transfer rumour in them???
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2015, 11:16:04 AMQuote from: snarks on August 07, 2015, 10:14:07 AM
Interesting last few posts (deserve a thread of their own)..... but where's the transfer rumour in them???
the rumour is that we cant attract any decent players for what ever reason, wages, manager, lack of ambition etc
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 12:15:58 PM
Mesca's gone: "Buomesca Tue Na Bangna has joined Limassol permanently. We'd like to wish Mesca all the best > http://ow.ly/QBY4M (http://ow.ly/QBY4M)"
Quote from: Ordar on August 07, 2015, 12:28:35 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 07, 2015, 12:15:58 PM
Mesca's gone: "Buomesca Tue Na Bangna has joined Limassol permanently. We'd like to wish Mesca all the best > http://ow.ly/QBY4M (http://ow.ly/QBY4M)"
he never seemed to quite make that next step. Good luck to him
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 07, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
We need to move on from Dunk & bring back Michael Turner & put in a decent bud for Stearman.
Quote from: W.G.Fulham on August 07, 2015, 07:56:25 PMQuote from: JackyFulham90 on August 07, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
We need to move on from Dunk & bring back Michael Turner & put in a decent bud for Stearman.
Please not Stearman, he has experience in this league yes, but he just isn't very good!
Quote from: mikestrand on August 07, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
Cant believe there's any chance of signing Dunk if hes playing for Brighton tonight, there taking us for a ride.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 07, 2015, 08:07:48 PMlolQuote from: mikestrand on August 07, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
Cant believe there's any chance of signing Dunk if hes playing for Brighton tonight, there taking us for a ride.
Well, Mitroglou played on Saturday and left this week so anything's possible.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 08, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 08, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 08, 2015, 10:08:44 AM
lol Craven Mad the joys of being a Fulham fan mate. I feel exactly the same. If I read a rumour about signing Ronaldo I would half believe it such is my desperation. The mind plays tricks with me and makes me feel anything could happen.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 08, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
08 Aug 2015 00:19:48
Dunk to Fulham done just waiting for Brighton to find a replacement.
Gayle to Fulham : Boro & Palace have agreed a fee but player reluctant to move north. Fulham have offered palace 2m loan fee with view to 6.4m move (total 8.4m) Gayle stayed behind on Saturday after the friendly and was impressed - he has already trained at MP with Palace last month. Player wants Fulham move so wts
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 10, 2015, 10:18:32 AM
Thought I'd bump this thread back to the front page and share the news that SSN are reporting Boro have a £4m bid accepted for David Nugent.
Could this spell an end to any interest in Dwight Gayle??
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 10, 2015, 10:28:45 AMNot for a proven championship goalscorer, will get 15 plus goals if he played 40 plus games this season. Almost a guarantee with him.Quote from: Craven Mad on August 10, 2015, 10:18:32 AM
Thought I'd bump this thread back to the front page and share the news that SSN are reporting Boro have a £4m bid accepted for David Nugent.
Could this spell an end to any interest in Dwight Gayle??
Jesus, 4m for nugent seems steep.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 10, 2015, 10:54:51 AM
Tarkowski shrugs off 'speculation' after Fulham are linked
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James Tarkowski has shrugged off reports he could leave Brentford before the transfer window closes.
Fulham have been linked with the defender, who has two years remaining on his contract at Griffin Park.
"It was just speculation for me," said the 22-year-old.
"I'm contracted to Brentford, so I just play. If they tell me I have got to move and they tell me to go, I'll go. But it's not my choice. I'm just here to play football."
Meanwhile, Hull City plan to table another bid for Bees striker Andre Gray, having previously had an offer rejected.
And Tarkowski has no doubt that his team-mate, who netted 18 goals last season and scored after coming on as a substitute in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Ipswich, will go from strength to strength.
"He has so much potential and he had a great year last year," said the former Oldham centre-back.
"I'd love for him to stay. There seems to be a lot of speculation about a lot of different people at the moment but we have to put that to back of our heads and get on with our football."
http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/tarkowski-shrugs-off-speculation-after-fulham-are-linked-with-bees-star-wls-football (http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/tarkowski-shrugs-off-speculation-after-fulham-are-linked-with-bees-star-wls-football)
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 08, 2015, 10:08:44 AM
lol Craven Mad the joys of being a Fulham fan mate. I feel exactly the same. If I read a rumour about signing Ronaldo I would half believe it such is my desperation. The mind plays tricks with me and makes me feel anything could happen.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 10, 2015, 02:53:12 PMYou're talking about a club that has Julian ducks on it coaching staff. Could be interestingQuote from: Lighthouse on August 10, 2015, 02:07:46 PM
Joey Barton to have a medical at West Ham.
Let's hope they give him a brain scan while there at it.
Quote from: spikey norman on August 10, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
Birmingham sign Noe Baba
Quote from: westcliff white on August 10, 2015, 08:56:19 PMDecent signing
forest accept Burnley's 4 million bid for Henri Lansbury
Quote from: westcliff white on August 10, 2015, 08:56:19 PMAin't that Miss Marple?
forest accept Burnley's 4 million bid for Henri Lansbury
Quote from: f321ffc on August 10, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Brighton fan on their forum seems to think there is a buy out clause for Lewis Dunk of £5 million, should we hit the buy it now button?
Quote from: Nero on August 10, 2015, 10:38:57 PMQuote from: f321ffc on August 10, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Brighton fan on their forum seems to think there is a buy out clause for Lewis Dunk of £5 million, should we hit the buy it now button?
no we will wait until his has a blinder against us then bid 4.25m
Quote from: mkras99 on August 10, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 11, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
I don't see the problem in paying 5 million for Dunk. At 23, I can only see him getting better, so the next stop will be the Premiership for him, with or without Fulham. That being the case, we can easily sell Dunk for more money, or even make a killing on him, if he becomes exceptional.
We've pussy footed around with this deal for far to long now, that it's become strangely odd, unless we've already agreed a deal with Brighton and he joins after our game.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 08:59:25 AMand if he gets injured?
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 08:59:25 AMBecause he might not try too hard against his hope of PL Football?
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 11, 2015, 09:03:02 AMNot our call though is it, if they don't accept our offer, or do but say they wont do the deal till after the game they have a right to play him.Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 08:59:25 AMand if he gets injured?
WHy cant he play for them then sign for us on Monday? I would have thought that would be their preference.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 10, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
Quote from: Twig on August 11, 2015, 10:18:12 AMQuote from: mkras99 on August 10, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Fulham, Bristol City and Wolverhampton Wanderers are chasing Crystal Palace midfielder Jonny Williams on loan, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/10/championship-trio-target-palaces-jonny-williams/)
Don't know much about him, what position in midfield does he play? We just seem to be linked to so many midfielders when we are already well endowed in that area.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
do we need another midfield player? not saying he isnt a decent player just we have several and we could do with a centre back
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 11, 2015, 12:56:22 PM
Uwe Hunemeier, a German CB reportedly having a medical at Brighton today.
Surely this means we've finally got our man
Quote from: mkras99 on August 11, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
@reluctantnicko: TIM REAM. New interest from FULHAM. Was hoping that would keep for paper but seems unlikely. BOLTON will sell to highest bidder. QPR maybe.
Quote from: grandad on August 11, 2015, 01:43:58 PM
SSN. Gayle going to Bristol City for a fee rising to £6 mil. What on earth were we doing? Nothing
Quote from: westcliff white on August 11, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
While I agree we need a centre back I do worry if Ross gets injured who will pick up the mantle.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 11, 2015, 02:55:06 PMHow many more midfielders do we need, thought that area had been sorted? I am still waiting to hear that we really do intend to improve our defence and also add 1 proven goal scorer to our squad, if we don't, then we can probably forget challenging for promotion for at least 1 more year!
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/11/swansea-burnley-fulham-tracking-christie/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/11/swansea-burnley-fulham-tracking-christie/?utm_medium=share%20service&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday)
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PMForgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
Quote from: MJG on August 11, 2015, 03:45:04 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PMForgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
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Quote from: MJG on August 11, 2015, 03:45:04 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PMForgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
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Quote from: Texas White on August 11, 2015, 06:17:40 PMQuote from: MJG on August 11, 2015, 03:45:04 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 11, 2015, 03:32:22 PMForgetting if he is going or not, I thought dembele showed on Saturday he can step up.
We desperately need a forward as well as central defender(s). Dembele hasn't signed a contract and has yet show he can step up. Woodrow is not an answer and Taggart has had nothing but injury problems and still has. Smith and Ross are really our only forwards.
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Yes agreed. Why spunk money on Gayle when this kid could become the real deal...
Quote from: FFC73 on August 11, 2015, 10:20:56 PM
Bristol City confirm bid for Gayle accepted & they are talking to player & agent tomorrow
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 11, 2015, 10:22:15 PMQuote from: FFC73 on August 11, 2015, 10:20:56 PM
Bristol City confirm bid for Gayle accepted & they are talking to player & agent tomorrow
Earlier, it said that Gayle had rejected the move.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 11, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
I think 6mill is over the odds. I also think I may be proved to be completely wrong. He could be the difference. I feel him and Ross are quality championship strikers but not the mustard in the PL. Smith doesn't fill many on here with confidence but I think he could be our bobby this season and has it in him to improve to the PL. If we got him, smith up top with Gayle on the shoulder and Ross a number ten. That would be hard to stop in so many ways. You couldn't drop off, you couldn't push up and we could mess teams about with clever training. Let's say smith drops deep. Who marks him? Let's say the mobile defender put on Ross has to deal with smith? That a mismatch that works in our favour. The pacey defender they play against Gayle has smith dropping onto him how does that play? We can cause mismatches with that formation.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Quote from: Fulhamerica23 on August 11, 2015, 11:30:43 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Was highly regarded in MLS and broke through quite quickly into the national team before signing on with Bolton. He's been pretty good overall throughout the years there, especially in the Championship. Think he's a very good Championship defender. Struggled at times in the EPL and never really lived up to the hype of a regular national team player. Just was recently called back for the Gold Cup, but wasn't first choice.
Versitile player. A center back back trade, but can go out on the left fullback position, or sit in as a defensive midfielder. Great left foot out of the back.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 12, 2015, 12:16:07 AMI was at the game what with Southend being my local team. In the bar beforehand some BHFC fans were saying he was on the team coach, however he wasn't in the first team squad and he didnt get of the coach when it arrived at Roots Hall,
Wasn't in the Brighton squad tonight
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 12, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
Symons thanks Khan for spending. We haven't spent though, we are breaking even on transfers and wages I would imagine.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 12, 2015, 09:54:57 AMBecause free signings are free aren't they? I mean no signing on fee at all.Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 12, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
Symons thanks Khan for spending. We haven't spent though, we are breaking even on transfers and wages I would imagine.
Jesus. Symons sounds pretty simple saying this. We know we haven't spent, all our players bar Cairney were free!
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMI guess also this would depend how the fee is structured, if we pay over the term of a 3 year contract we reduce our FFP impact for this year as we have not paid all the money up front, that's how I understand it. However I do not know where we are in relation to FFP.
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMadd ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 10:40:41 AMWell its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMadd ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 10:43:33 AMBut we can ease that further depending on how we pay the fee is that correct? for instance we sign Dunk on a 5 year deal for 5 million and pay that over the fee over the initial contract period meaning our FFP impact form this deal (fee wise only) is 1 million per season, this is unrealistic I know but trying to give a simple example.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 10:40:41 AMWell its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMadd ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
I have done my fag packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 10:43:33 AMIQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 10:40:41 AMWell its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMadd ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
I have done my fag packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AMI am not saying thats what happened, but it is possible. but yes they can afford it
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 12, 2015, 11:23:53 AMI heard this story the other way around that it was Bullards side that wanted it kept quiet or the deal was off. We did the deal in March or April time and he didnt play the last few games for Wigan as I seem to remember. Long time ago now that one.
The one transfer we did was just after the end of the season a few years back.
It was announced that Bullard was going to sign.
It came out later that whilst we were in discussions, we had said to his agent. "If any of this comes out prior to signing, the deal is off". I remember being quite impressed with that.
Dont suppose we carry quite the same weight these days
Quote from: westcliff white on August 12, 2015, 10:46:55 AMIt is unrealistic but I get your point. I'll be honest and say how they account for future expenditure when working out the accounts for the football league(which is different to published accounts) i'm not sure.Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 10:43:33 AMBut we can ease that further depending on how we pay the fee is that correct? for instance we sign Dunk on a 5 year deal for 5 million and pay that over the fee over the initial contract period meaning our FFP impact form this deal (fee wise only) is 1 million per season, this is unrealistic I know but trying to give a simple example.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 10:40:41 AMWell its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMadd ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
I have done my fag packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AMBut thats how we have done some of our deals in the past. Its normal practice to spread over two seasons usually, especally if a high fee.
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 10:43:33 AMQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 10:40:41 AMWell its not really over £13M is the max allowed loss under the FFP rules.Quote from: west kowloon white on August 12, 2015, 10:36:25 AMadd ons will only count when activated. And we can go 13 mil over FFP if we wish
Is Gayle at 6m and Dunk at,say,5 m plus all the add ons really possible within the "Fair" play rules MJG? Expectations followed by Khan criticism.
I have done my fag packet calculations and I still maintain that we could have a net spend of £10M and be well inside that loss figure. As someone who does not advocating going to a £13M loss I'm quite happy with that £10m net spend figure, which it seems we are willing to do for the right players.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 03:14:10 AMQuote from: Fulhamerica23 on August 11, 2015, 11:30:43 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on August 11, 2015, 11:19:40 PM
Is Tim Ream not supposed to be awful? I've only seen him a couple of times but wasn't impressed. Anyone know any better?
Was highly regarded in MLS and broke through quite quickly into the national team before signing on with Bolton. He's been pretty good overall throughout the years there, especially in the Championship. Think he's a very good Championship defender. Struggled at times in the EPL and never really lived up to the hype of a regular national team player. Just was recently called back for the Gold Cup, but wasn't first choice.
Versitile player. A center back back trade, but can go out on the left fullback position, or sit in as a defensive midfielder. Great left foot out of the back.
Probably why he's not considered to be a better CB. But, I will give him that he's likely one of the best passing CBs in the league. And if he was poor defensively, he'd never have been player of the season two seasons running.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 11:37:29 AMI agree but we don't have the spending power of the top 5-6 Prem clubs and so have to pay in installments, I assume.Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AMBut thats how we have done some of our deals in the past. Its normal practice to spread over two seasons usually, especally if a high fee.
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 12:44:11 PMtrouble is only one buyer in the race and one year left on contract. We may have got 2M at a tribunel next year if we were lucky.Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 11:37:29 AMI agree but we don't have the spending power of the top 5-6 Prem clubs and so have to pay in installments, I assume.Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 12, 2015, 11:10:23 AMBut thats how we have done some of our deals in the past. Its normal practice to spread over two seasons usually, especally if a high fee.
"People also don't take into account that we may have sold Roberts but how much of that was upfront? 2 million or so? rest in installments over x number of years and then a lot in add ons if certain targets are met".
Well that's our fault for agreeing terms, isn't it?
We should have said b*gger orf or pay up in full - it's not like they don't have the money is it!
I just think that with the amount of 'silly' money Man Cty have been/are throwing around, we could have put our foot down on the Roberts deal. Especially as we are now having to deal with this rediculous ffp rule!
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PMcan't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PMStarted the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 02:51:07 PMQuote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PMStarted the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
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Quote from: horse1031 on August 12, 2015, 02:34:15 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
serviceable but not better than Burn or Hutch. Kind of meh on this one.
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:52:50 PMHe has done that in every game I've seen him play. Last Friday he did it a couple of times, you can see he has played midfield and is very confident with it at his feet. I see it as a plus point as we don't have many, if any, CB's at the club who are comfortable doing that.Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 02:51:07 PMQuote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PMStarted the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
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Do you know if he was any good?
All I heard was that he likes to charge out with the ball at his feet
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 03:00:32 PMQuote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:52:50 PMHe has done that in every game I've seen him play. Last Friday he did it a couple of times, you can see he has played midfield and is very confident with it at his feet. I see it as a plus point as we don't have many, if any, CB's at the club who are comfortable doing that.Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 02:51:07 PMQuote from: KP_FFC on August 12, 2015, 02:44:39 PMStarted the u21 game on Friday, I'll be interested to see if he plays against Arsenal this week.
Hutch has really upped his game the past few games, i think 1 more cb is enough for us.
Anyone know what happened to that trialist Pino?
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Do you know if he was any good?
All I heard was that he likes to charge out with the ball at his feet
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PMcan't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PMcan't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PMcan't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PMcan't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 12, 2015, 04:06:24 PMIf the money was there we would have got bids accepted. Everyone keeps telling us that every player has a price. The fact that we couldn't even get a bid accepted says to me the money wasn't there and once again we have opted to lower the quality of player and there transfer fee.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 12, 2015, 02:19:14 PMcan't see is getting Dunk as well if true. Kinda puts an end to the theory that there was money for the right player. As surely mcdonald and Dunk were the right player.think we will be more likely to get Marcus Gayle over Dwight too
Read on Twitter a bid has been accepted for Tim Ream for £2.4 million
The money may well be there - but that doesn't mean that the player or player's current club want the move to happen.
Quote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PMno I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PMQuote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PMno I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PMWhat manager?
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 12, 2015, 05:42:18 PMNo idea that will be down to a 8 man panelQuote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PMWhat manager?
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:45:13 PMAs long as we get a ten man panel to pick the 8 man panel then I'm inQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 12, 2015, 05:42:18 PMNo idea that will be down to a 8 man panelQuote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PMWhat manager?
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
My own feeling is we're holding money back to pay compensation for a new manager and to give him some funds to spend if it all goes wrong with kit
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 05:22:46 PMIs it wasted money to get the player you want? And what's ffp got to do with it? I'm responding to someone who said we had money for the right players. Well if mcdonald and Dunk aren't the right players then I don't know who are. But then again I'm basing it on the fact the club told us we are aiming for top 6.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PMQuote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PMno I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 05:22:46 PMIs it wasted money to get the player you want? And what's ffp got to do with it? I'm responding to someone who said we had money for the right players. Well if mcdonald and Dunk aren't the right players then I don't know who are. But then again I'm basing it on the fact the club told us we are aiming for top 6.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PMQuote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PMno I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 06:57:19 PM
Quite simply any club has a value they see in a player, just as you do with a car or a house.
You pay what you think it's worth. Just because I didn't pay the asking price for a flat I wanted doesn't mean I didn't have the money, just that the asking price was not the valuation I thought it was. And in fact I paid more for another flat.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 06:53:21 PMsorry but the player you want doesn't become the wrong type of player just because you can't afford him. He was the one targeted to help us get in the top 6. He is the one we can't afford by the looks of it, anything else said is just an excuse for us not having the money. And ffp is irrelevant as I don't believe we will be given the funds to take us anywhere near our limit.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 12, 2015, 05:22:46 PMIs it wasted money to get the player you want? And what's ffp got to do with it? I'm responding to someone who said we had money for the right players. Well if mcdonald and Dunk aren't the right players then I don't know who are. But then again I'm basing it on the fact the club told us we are aiming for top 6.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PMQuote from: snarks on August 12, 2015, 04:27:02 PMno I'm not having that. It's not our place to value other teams players for them. A certain wenger got in trouble for that a few years back. You either have the money for the player or not. By all means go low and hope you get them cheap, but if you fall short then you clearly don't have the money.
Not really Ben, it says we didn't meet their valuation. If Fulham bid £4 million, because that's what they think he is worth, and the other club say we want £6 million or no deal.
If Fulham decide he isn't worth the extra, than that is their decision, not an indication of money not being there.
So, if we've got 10 million remaining to spend on the right target(s), Brighton decide that they only want to sell him at 9 million, and we decide not to buy him at that price, your contention is that we didn't buy because we didn't have the money? I've made the example a silly one, price-wise, but, at some point he's worth a certain amount to any buyer and beyond that it's wasted money that restricts the buying club's ability/flexibility to work under FFP.
It can be. Sure.
I've no doubt that we have money to spend on the right players. But, if our valuation for a player is 4 million and the selling club's valuation is significantly higher than that, then that player ceases to be the right player.
And, FFP's got everything to do with it. It impacts our transfer budget and wage structure. If we can only afford to do 10 million in spending on players in order to avoid exceeding the 13 million in losses we are allowed to afford ourselves annually, then we can't afford to overspend on a single player when we have multiple positions to improve.
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:02:01 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on January 01, 1970, 01:23:59 AMquote author=MJG link=topic=47501.msg695251#msg695251 date=1439406121]FredQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:02:01 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:02:01 PM406121]Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:02:01 PMI wouldn't say 6 is too much for a young quality cb. Hull sold there's for 8 and Westham were rumoured to want Burn for 5 and Dunk will replace him. The point is if you want good players these days you pay for them, and God knows we need a good cb. Dunks value will almost certainly increase with time, so it would be a very minimal gamble.Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:52:37 PMSo 5m for Dunk. Well that's the deal in place anyway. So when I say 6m is too much you would agree then?Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PMI'll play your game. But my point was we don't have money for the right players not how to balance the budget. And this is all conjecture as we won't know if bid will be accepted. But I'd go at 5 for dunk and if accepted I would spend 2 on a left back. I would get a better right back but next season and not this one. I'd spend 520k (this year's wages) on a contract extension for Dembele 10k a week obviously and hold the other 2.5 for January just in caseQuote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PMNope just txf feesQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PMare we talking wages too?
So Ben what is the maximum amount you would pay to get him?
I'll give you a budget of 10m and thinking what we need elsewhere , how much would pay right now today?
Quote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
So you would pay 8m then?
Quote from: Fulhamerica23 on August 12, 2015, 08:05:35 PM
If we end up getting Dunk, what's it matter if we get him August 2nd or 22nd or 31st. The season is 46 games long, if he misses a August fixture, it's not really a big deal. Don't judge the transfer window on August 12th.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2015, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: MJG on August 12, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
So you would pay 8m then?
Quote from: aussierod on August 13, 2015, 03:44:22 AM
There's another factor to remember here too with regards to Dunk, he's a born and bred Brighton boy, other than high wages, why would he want to leave the club which he has spent his entire career and life in? As in, currently, he's not a journeyman footballer, he's a local lad, playing for his local team in the same league as we play, and although they had a bad season last year where they finished 20th, they were only 5 points off us, so we can't really say that we're much better currently than where he's at. Also, after they finished 6th in 2013/14 I would imagine that it was a hugely disappointing season for them and that he, as a local boy, would be really motivated to improve upon that too
So my point is, even though we've valued him at one price, and Brighton another, and lets say hypothetically that we agree a fee at 5million, we still need to convince the player that he should leave his boyhood club, his family and friends, for a former premier league club trying to buy it's way back up, with our biggest incentive most likely being a bigger pay packet.
So transfer fee is one part, wages I think will be another which may hamper us, and yes although I'd love it for us to throw as much money at the problem as needed, good planning, good strategies, and patience can also achieve the end game which is a strong, sustainable club playing in the premier league.
Finally, on the Dunk discussion, who would take Dunk at 5mill or Ream for 2.5mill and potentially use that money elsewhere, say resigning Dembele, Hyndman & Bettinelli, or possibly another 2.5mill going into the budget for a striker or a 2nd starting CB
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AMso 98 league games of having a poor defence is the official time to moanQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
Quote from: Scrumpy on August 13, 2015, 01:07:22 AMI'm not even talking about splashing the cash to get to the prem. I'm talking about spending some money to fix our worst position. The one position that needed attention over all the others. And you have no idea how close we are to going 13 over so if we are close to evenings will you come on here and say sorry I was wrong the club were scrimping
Jesus, it does my head in when I see Ben and others say 'splash the cash' to get us to The Premier League. FFP, FFP, FFP, FFP.
No matter how rich our owner, he is restricted as to how much he can spend by FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY. If he spends enough on transfers and wages (which are conveniently ignored by many people) to take us close to the allowable annual loss under FFP then HE HAS DONE ALL HE POSSIBLY CAN TO BANKROLL THE CLUB. He can do no more, without jeopardising the day-to-day operations of the Club. What more do you want?
So, we will know for sure when the Accounts come out next year, or the year after, whether Shad has covered the maximum allowable loss in an effort to gain us promotion. My thoughts are that he will 100% do this. My reasons are two-fold: 1) he continues to press ahead with the stadium redevelopment, which will personally cost him millions, since this is outside the rules of FFP. This is one of the few ways he can spend his money on us without breaking any rules and 2) in the final year of the Premiership he has manipulated the accounts to show a massive (allowable) loss so that we have more money to spend in The Championship. This is not the behaviour of a 'penny-pincher'.
So, when the Club posts it's Accounts in 2016 or 2017 and it shows a loss of £12 million (or whatever the allowable figure is) will Ben and others remember to come on here and say 'fair play Mr Chairman, we could not have bought anyone else that season without invoking a transfer embargo even though the fans were whining like spoilt kids for more, more, more'.
Sorry about the rant, but I am convinced that Shad and his Accountants are all over this like a rash and know the absolute maximum that we can spend. If that means we can get Dunk, but not Gayle, then that is that. There's no room for manoeuvre.
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on August 13, 2015, 10:23:12 AM
Lots of tweets doing the rounds saying Newcastle are now firmly in for Dunk offering Mike Williamson as part of the deal. Lets hope he wants to stay down South :(
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
Quote from: alexbishop on August 13, 2015, 10:51:47 AMGenerally I agree, but say he was deciding and then Newcastle come in, that changes the picture for both him and more importantly us.Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:55:09 AMdeciding? We never got a bid accepted to give him the option to decideQuote from: alexbishop on August 13, 2015, 10:51:47 AMGenerally I agree, but say he was deciding and then Newcastle come in, that changes the picture for both him and more importantly us.Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 11:00:42 AMMy bad i was talking about players in general not specifically Dunk.Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:55:09 AMdeciding? We never got a bid accepted to give him the option to decideQuote from: alexbishop on August 13, 2015, 10:51:47 AMGenerally I agree, but say he was deciding and then Newcastle come in, that changes the picture for both him and more importantly us.Quote from: westcliff white on August 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
that's true Nero very True, but then didnt he make his name in the Championship for Watford? still wouldn't want him mind you.
As for Dunk if he come she comes if he doesn't then lets move on, any sensible player will choose the prem over the champ for sure purely on football and financial terms, however if he is (as some reports have said) a lad who likes to be close to his family then maybe we still have a look in. I wouldn't be surprised that if we match QPR's bid for Ream if they have in fact had one accepted and of course if we are actually interested.
If he isn't coming we should have moved on ages ago. We are running out of time and I don't want to bring in a player who is 18th on our shortlist because we've missed the boat on the others because we've been dithering with this for so long
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 10:13:36 AMQuote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/9947426/queens-park-rangers-agree-16314m-deal-to-sign-boltons-tim-ream)
the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
You're jumping the gun here. My point is that we had a bid rejected from Bolton and QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m! My point is how much is this club bidding for players! Thats the problem! We need a CB and a good one at least. Why tip toe around instead of just going look bang here's a reasonable fee. We did it with Ross last year so I know we can do it!
Quote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 11:24:33 AMactually I have been saying that I don't think we have the money for good signings if you read my posts. It's only because MJG gave me a ten million hyperthetical budget that I started on about Dunk. And as to Richards and Garbutt, I've already stated that Richards isn't a better player than he was last year just because he has signed on a perm, and Garbutt could be our new jari so I don't think we have come close to improving our defence. Especially now Grimmer is injured who I believe to be our best right backQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 10:13:36 AMQuote from: jayffc on August 13, 2015, 09:56:26 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 09:32:21 AMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on August 13, 2015, 09:25:19 AMQuote from: cottage cheese on August 13, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
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the farce at this club continues!
Which club are you talking about, Fulham or QPR?
Us! Seriously have no idea how this club does not see that our defence is so poor (one of the worst last season). We need a good CB to partner hutch or Burn. We have had a bid rejected for Ream yet QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m... Does this club not realise you might have to increase the figure for players for a certain calibre.
It takes a signing at least a few games/month to really adapt and fit in and we really need to start strong as have a tough couple of games leading up to Xmas!
I despair with the whinging and panicking of certain fans. The windows not shut yet, plenty of time to do business, we don't know the ins and outs of dealings inside the club, we don't have the current accounts to peruse...we seem to know that our top target is Dunk. Maybe plan B C or D was Tim Ream and we didn't fancy it that much other than as an extra cheaper option. Maybe Hutchs form has put that idea on hold, who knows?! But throwing your toys about and crying farce at the club seems frankly ridiculous. We did alot of our business very early, there have been interviews with our manager saying they are well aware of our frailties in defence lastseason and that it's being addressed and yet...Impatient whining and hysteric wailing all over he place. Grow up, chill out and let it play out, save ya moaning and negative energy for the end of the window to see if no one is in and if by 10 games in our defence is still as leaky as before then moan till your heart is content. What's farcicle is the spoilt fans on here whinging about spending millions of another mans money without even knowing the intentions or accounts or restrictions involved- the mind truy boggles.
You're jumping the gun here. My point is that we had a bid rejected from Bolton and QPR have had one accepted at £1.4m! My point is how much is this club bidding for players! Thats the problem! We need a CB and a good one at least. Why tip toe around instead of just going look bang here's a reasonable fee. We did it with Ross last year so I know we can do it!
Because perhaps they felt Ross was worth the amount they paid for him and Team wasn't worth much more than they offered? Clubs make informal/formal bids all the time and don't go back in with more money. Perhaps there are other deals on the table that are more appealing who knows. That's the point, you and fulham ben literally have next to No idea where negotiations are at or other players so why not just wait and see.
And on that matter fulhamben - we've all established that the defence needed looking at - last year kit brought in Husband and Turner and we had Richards- this season we have brought in Garbutt and signed Richards permanently and have repeatedly stated in official interviews we are well aware that the defence needed assessing. So, until the window closes as most of us realise some transfer dealings can often go to the wire for what I thought were blindingly obvious reasons, I shall wait and see what the club does before lambasting them and constantly moaning without the foggiest clue what the inside conversations are and the state of negotiations other than what pops up on twitter or in any number of random football sites.
It's a new season with a number of new 1st team signings and so far it's played 2 won 1, drawn 1, conceded 1. So how about just being reasonable human beings and waiting till transfer season closes and we have more information on where we are at?!
Quote from: spikey norman on August 13, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
According to press report today Dwight Gayle not interested in joining Bristol City.
Norwich favourites to sign him.Fulham and QPR still interested in signing him.
Bristol City will go for Andre Gray if Gayle move fails
Quote from: Ordar on August 13, 2015, 06:58:43 AM:plus one:
Can we please keep this thread just for transfer rumours? If people want to have a FFP argument can we do it on another thread please?
Quote from: DeuceBigelow on August 13, 2015, 01:07:15 PMQuote from: Ordar on August 13, 2015, 06:58:43 AM:plus one:
Can we please keep this thread just for transfer rumours? If people want to have a FFP argument can we do it on another thread please?
Quote from: Arthur on August 13, 2015, 01:39:18 PM
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
Quote from: Arthur on August 13, 2015, 01:39:18 PMverbals mean nothing though, Mark Hughes shook mo's hand and then walked out. I'm very sceptical about all the noise about his dad saying he wants to come or him himself saying the same thing. Because it either means we have permission to talk to him. And if so why has it not leaked. Or we are setting ourselves up for another tapping up claim. Or thirdly we made a bid. It was knocked back and that as it stands is the end of it
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PMI'll take one. I think the hutch has improved. And burn and bod are not the worst in the world.
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 01:51:55 PMQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PMI'll take one. I think the hutch has improved. And burn and bod are not the worst in the world.
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 01:51:55 PMBod is absolutely awful (was on Tuesday as well), and always looks in a daze. Hutch's improvement is only relative to how bad he was last season, and Burn is only any good with someone better to carry him through - imoQuote from: shnlwswlkr on August 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PMI'll take one. I think the hutch has improved. And burn and bod are not the worst in the world.
£6.5/£7m for two centre backs of decent quality would be good, that's the only position I really see us as short in. I'd be very happy if we got two in.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 13, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Am I right to expect a Kit interview from Sarah B. today? Or will it be moved since we've had a midweek game?
Hoping to get some insight into imminent signings as well as an update on Jack's injury.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 13, 2015, 02:18:55 PMThursday for away games and Friday for home games
Am I right to expect a Kit interview from Sarah B. today? Or will it be moved since we've had a midweek game?
Hoping to get some insight into imminent signings as well as an update on Jack's injury.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2015, 01:47:41 PMQuote from: Arthur on August 13, 2015, 01:39:18 PMverbals mean nothing though, Mark Hughes shook mo's hand and then walked out. I'm very sceptical about all the noise about his dad saying he wants to come or him himself saying the same thing. Because it either means we have permission to talk to him. And if so why has it not leaked. Or we are setting ourselves up for another tapping up claim. Or thirdly we made a bid. It was knocked back and that as it stands is the end of it
Apart from our low offer for Tim Ream (for whom, if £1.4M is more than we are prepared to pay, we clearly are not committed to getting), our seeming lack of interest in other centre-backs these past two weeks suggests to me that we have an arrangement in place with Brighton for after the weekend: We'll make a new offer; they'll accept it; Dunk will have a medical and agree terms (which have probably been broadly discussed already.)
If Newcastle's interest is genuine, it could muddy the waters, but we should have asked Dunk (or his agent) the question: 'What if a mid-table northern PL outfit shows an interest in the meantime?' and at least have a verbal agreement that he will not let us down.
That's my guess.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 13, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Fulham make new offer for Brentford's Tarkowski
HITC Sport understands Fulham have made a new bid for Brentford defender James Tarkowski.
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Fulham have launched an improved offer for Brentford's James Tarkowski as they look to bolster their defensive options before the close of the transfer window.
Fulham have made a new centre-back one of their top targets this summer and have been linked with moves for the likes of Brighton's Lewis Dunk, Wolverhampton Wanderers' Richard Stearman and Sheffield Wednesday stopper Tom Lees.
Tarkowski is also among Fulham's top targets and Brentford rejected a bid of £1.75million for the 22-year-old earlier this summer.
Takowski has impressed at Brentford since joining the club from Oldham in January 2014, helping the club win promotion to the Championship in his first season and reach the play-off semi-finals last term.
SEE ALSO: Fulham lodge bid to bring in Brentford defender
Brentford are reluctant to lose Tarkowski, but Fulham have tested their resolve again by tabling a bid in the region of £3million as they aim to make some progress in search of defensive reinforcements.
Only Blackpool had a worst defensive record than Fulham last season and Symons knows he must improve his defence if they are to challenge for promotion this season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter)
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 13, 2015, 05:43:48 PMlet's do one over the bees, but everything about there chairman says he won't sell and especially to usQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 13, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Fulham make new offer for Brentford's Tarkowski
HITC Sport understands Fulham have made a new bid for Brentford defender James Tarkowski.
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Fulham have launched an improved offer for Brentford's James Tarkowski as they look to bolster their defensive options before the close of the transfer window.
Fulham have made a new centre-back one of their top targets this summer and have been linked with moves for the likes of Brighton's Lewis Dunk, Wolverhampton Wanderers' Richard Stearman and Sheffield Wednesday stopper Tom Lees.
Tarkowski is also among Fulham's top targets and Brentford rejected a bid of £1.75million for the 22-year-old earlier this summer.
Takowski has impressed at Brentford since joining the club from Oldham in January 2014, helping the club win promotion to the Championship in his first season and reach the play-off semi-finals last term.
SEE ALSO: Fulham lodge bid to bring in Brentford defender
Brentford are reluctant to lose Tarkowski, but Fulham have tested their resolve again by tabling a bid in the region of £3million as they aim to make some progress in search of defensive reinforcements.
Only Blackpool had a worst defensive record than Fulham last season and Symons knows he must improve his defence if they are to challenge for promotion this season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/08/13/fulham-make-new-offer-for-brentfords-tarkowski/&utm_source=Twitter)
Seems to be all over twitter. Great news if this deal comes through.
I'd be pleased with Dunk or Tarkowski. Both are young and quality players. Even Ream would be great signing, only thing setting them apart is age, as Ream is nearing 30.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 13, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 13, 2015, 06:14:34 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 13, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
Knowing us, we'll end up with neither.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 13, 2015, 06:20:27 PMwe need to be realistic with Tarkowski though.the bees chairman is one of those rare breeds. He is a fan/fanatic of Brentford, and as such as Fulham fans would you sell one of your best to a local rival? I can't ser this one happeningQuote from: SKSW6 on August 13, 2015, 06:14:34 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 13, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Knowing us, we'll end up with both.
Knowing us, we'll end up with neither.
Lol so true but yet so painful to accept. I really hope this time is different and we complete a window getting all of our targets
Quote from: FPT on August 13, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
Though it wouldn't necessarily surprise me to see us sign two centre backs this summer, it would surprise me to see us sign two that wish to play on the same side of the defence. We saw with Brede Hangeland that you can't just shuffle around like it's nothing, it's requires a huge adaption in terms of how you defend, the angles you make up, how you press and how you tackle. Maybe Tarkowski could take to the right hand side like a duck to water, but you can't blame me for being wary given the failure of trying pushing Brede Hangeland to the right to bring in the left footed Fernando Amorebieta - Brede suffered from it.
Fulham have made improved £4m bid for Brentford's James Tarkowski. Bees reluctant to sell following serious injury to Andreas Bjelland.
— Phil Cadden (@pjcadden) August 13, 2015
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM..... and how would you feel if we lost out by more because instead of waiting for our no. 1 target, we bought a lesser replacement a week or two earlier just because he was available now. I'm hoping that the delay is due to Brighton playing hardball, and we are still in with a good chance of Dunk. In hindsight this will have been the best approach. If we haven't sorted it by the end of the window then it's open season for recriminations, but until then no one knows what is happening behind the scenes
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
Quote from: Chesh on August 14, 2015, 08:45:45 AMAgreed nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes, but it seems we have spent weeks putting in low bids that have little or no chance of succeeding. This should have been sorted weeks ago if the club is serious about a promotion piush.Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM..... and how would you feel if we lost out by more because instead of waiting for our no. 1 target, we bought a lesser replacement a week or two earlier just because he was available now. I'm hoping that the delay is due to Brighton playing hardball, and we are still in with a good chance of Dunk. In hindsight this will have been the best approach. If we haven't sorted it by the end of the window then it's open season for recriminations, but until then no one knows what is happening behind the scenes
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 14, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Brad Pinard @Brad_Pinard 7m7 minutes ago
Pardew confirms Dwight Gayle asked him to leave but he is reluctant to join Bristol City.
Sounds like he's just waiting for an offer to be accepted by a team he wants to go to. I remember some saying he stuck around the Cottage after the Palace friendly and was impressed... Wonder what it'd take to get that deal done?
Quote from: Ordar on August 14, 2015, 09:16:52 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 14, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Brad Pinard @Brad_Pinard 7m7 minutes ago
Pardew confirms Dwight Gayle asked him to leave but he is reluctant to join Bristol City.
Sounds like he's just waiting for an offer to be accepted by a team he wants to go to. I remember some saying he stuck around the Cottage after the Palace friendly and was impressed... Wonder what it'd take to get that deal done?
The problem with the deal will be if Bristol City have included negating the sell on fee for Bolasie in the deal. Palace value him at 25m(!) so that's a lot of extra money basically included on top of the 6m transfer fee
Quote from: west kowloon white on August 14, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
25 million!!Can only think of one person who would be happy paying that-but shows what the club are up against landing their remaining targets.Perhaps prices will be more realistic in a couple of weeks time?
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 14, 2015, 10:05:05 AMI really wouldn't hold your breath on that. Maybe one, but not both. And I don't personally think we will get either. Plus Gayle has said he wants to stay in the prem
If Fulham pay out £12m & sign Lewis Dunk & Dwight Gayle then we have a very good chance of being in the top 6 at the end of the season. Interesting to see how much the Club want promotion over the next few weeks
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 14, 2015, 10:56:24 AMQuiet as in Twitter quiet ? It's always quiet from the club.
We can always dream and hope they are chasing 2 CBs instead of one... Hence the interest for Ream and Tarkowski on top of Dunk, instead as a pure fallback solution.
Interesting to notice that it all went quiet on the Dunk front over the last 24 hours: good or bad omen?
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 14, 2015, 11:05:01 AMwould you rather a load of tweets full of lies. I'll start a couple. " even though Fulham haven't submitted a bid big enough for Brighton to accept, Dunk is currently having a medical at motspur par"# it's all true honest....
Yes, Twitter quiet. Not expecting anything from the club to be honest.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 14, 2015, 11:19:13 AMa lot of false hopes though,you get more accurate snippets on here and tiff than you do twitter
At least the Twitter feed makes that period of the year entertaining.... A bit like a soap opera. Whether you believe what you read or not is another matter.
As supporters we will always be in the dark regarding transfer dealings until the last moment anyway.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 14, 2015, 10:50:25 AMI look at it as if we are chasing them maybe one is a fall back option in case Dunk doesn't come. AT this stage none of us know who we are after and who we are not as it is all press and social media rumours
If we are chasing Reem and the chap from Brentford, I'm pretty confident that the Dunk deal has fallen through.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AMWould you accept?
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PMmaybe yes, meaning Tarkowski could be available
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PMIt's to replace the right back they sold to Hull apparently
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 14, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
To all those who say don't moan at the lack of defensive reinforcements until the window closes, how are you going to feel if we finish 7th, one point off the play-offs? Spending earlier could have made all the difference.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 12:41:15 PMfair enough, makes them less likely to sell Tarkowski thoughQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PMIt's to replace the right back they sold to Hull apparently
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PMAlot of money for someone who is not too prolific
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:52:06 PMDidn't know they had sold a right back, but they have another couple of those too, so I would not give up yet on Tarkowski. Remain upbeat we have done well so far this summer, yes we need a CB or 2 but have faith in those doing the job its as I say gone well so far. Not everyone is available prior to the season startingQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 12:41:15 PMfair enough, makes them less likely to sell Tarkowski thoughQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PMIt's to replace the right back they sold to Hull apparently
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 11:47:45 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AMWould you accept?
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Quote from: cmg on August 14, 2015, 01:09:34 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 11:47:45 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AMWould you accept?
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Obviously on his way.
......ooops!
Twitter:Where would we be without it?
Quote from: Nero on August 14, 2015, 01:13:15 PMLol brilliant,Quote from: cmg on August 14, 2015, 01:09:34 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 11:47:45 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 14, 2015, 11:27:24 AMWould you accept?
Twitter Press Rumour - Hull have offered 8 million for Ross.
Obviously on his way.
......ooops!
Twitter:Where would we be without it?
Ross new contract will now have an 8m buy out clause
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 14, 2015, 01:00:47 PM
Ross signs new deal http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/14/mccormacks-contract-extension (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/14/mccormacks-contract-extension)
This is a great interview by the way. Well worth the 4 minutes. Very honest and open.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 14, 2015, 01:03:43 PMQuote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Can't see us paying anywhere near 8 million.
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on August 14, 2015, 01:23:27 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 14, 2015, 01:03:43 PMQuote from: ollienixs on August 14, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3197704/Fulham-make-8m-plus-add-ons-bid-Crystal-Palace-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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Can't see us paying anywhere near 8 million.
Why would we pay £8m when it's public knowledge that Bristol had £6m accepted?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 14, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
It goes on to say from someone else that he's on the team bus and in the squad for tomorrow. We'll see tomorrow I guess...
Quote from: mkras99 on August 14, 2015, 03:41:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play)
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 14, 2015, 04:01:27 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 14, 2015, 03:41:13 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play (http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?325381-Dunk-Refusing-to-play)
Really hoping that this isn't true.
Sure. It bodes well for those chasing his signature. At the same time, who's to say that he won't behave this way once again when the next time to move comes around. Transfers are a part of the business. Playing for the team one signed to play with is as well. Hoping he's not being this childish. Just hand in your transfer request son.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PMJust read whole 16 page thread and it was all started by an unsubstantiated rumour, that the poster is now a bit sheepish about, and someone has confirmed he is definitely on the bus and currently in the squad.
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
Someone on tiff claiming we have bid 8 mil for gayle
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
Someone on tiff claiming we have bid 8 mil for gayle
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 14, 2015, 07:37:17 PM
We've offered more than qpr for ream apparantly, deal could still be on for us then.
Quote from: Chesh on August 14, 2015, 06:07:42 PMActually the seemingly respected poster on the Brighton site who initially poo pooed the rumour by saying he was 100% sure he was playing, and was on the bus, is now not so sure about the playing bit - which has spooked the rest of the board. Could be an interesting day tomorrow...Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 03:39:03 PMJust read whole 16 page thread and it was all started by an unsubstantiated rumour, that the poster is now a bit sheepish about, and someone has confirmed he is definitely on the bus and currently in the squad.
Can't put link up, but if you go on the Brighton forum north stand chant. There is a topic about Dunk refusing to play tomorrow. And apparently he refused to play in the cup
I suppose we'll only find out when the teams are announced, but my gut feeling is that he'll play, but we could still sign him by 31st August. He'd better not score that's all... :doh:
Quote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PMQuote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:47 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PMQuote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
Quote from: KP_FFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
Why would we bid 8m for gayle when bristol had 6m accepted?
Quote from: FPT on August 14, 2015, 11:21:06 PMQuote from: KP_FFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
Why would we bid 8m for gayle when bristol had 6m accepted?
I believe part of that was waiving a sell on fee that Bristol City had for Yannick Bolasie. 15% I believe, so should Bolasie leave for the £25m Pardew continues to quote, that's £3.75m that could go to Bristol City. You could say that they met in the middle to agree a deal for Dwight Gayle.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 14, 2015, 11:10:54 PMQuote from: BedsFFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:47 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PMQuote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 14, 2015, 11:45:59 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on August 14, 2015, 11:10:54 PMQuote from: BedsFFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:47 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PMQuote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 15, 2015, 12:18:16 PMQuote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 14, 2015, 11:45:59 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on August 14, 2015, 11:10:54 PMQuote from: BedsFFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:47 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PMQuote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
I assume you mean the person above and not me?
P.s - relax.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 15, 2015, 12:27:28 PMWell, that would be an interesting thought.
Will be interesting to see if Ream is Plan B to Lewis Dunk or maybe the club will bring both in as Ream can cover at LB if Garbutt breaks down again
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 12:21:45 PM
Joe Prince-Wright (@JPW_NBCSports)
8/15/15, 6:56 AM
I can confirm that #USMNT's Tim Ream has made a U-turn, highly likely to now sign for @FulhamFC instead of #QPR. More details soon...
Joe Prince-Wright (@JPW_NBCSports)
8/15/15, 7:00 AM
... Fulham certainly in the driving seat. Expect more details on this move in the coming days. More on prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com shortly
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 15, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Betts contract extension!
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 05:35:57 PMwon't be Dunk if he watched that. Will be the cheaper option no doubt
Looks like we'll at least have one new CB in this week - http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/ (http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/)
Quote from: fulhamben on August 15, 2015, 05:41:47 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 05:35:57 PMwon't be Dunk if he watched that. Will be the cheaper option no doubt
Looks like we'll at least have one new CB in this week - http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/ (http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/13599599.Fulham_to_sign_Wanderers_defender_Tim_Ream_ahead_of_West_London_rivals_QPR/)
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on August 14, 2015, 11:45:59 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on August 14, 2015, 11:10:54 PMQuote from: BedsFFC on August 14, 2015, 10:36:47 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 14, 2015, 10:33:00 PMQuote from: cookieg on August 14, 2015, 04:03:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
To replace the injured bjQuote from: westcliff white on August 14, 2015, 12:20:49 PMto replace the injured beljend I should imagine
Brentford have signed Maxime Colin from Anderlecht, predominantly a right back but can play centre back too
They've got an injured bellend??
Nick Bateman got injured?
Bad news I'm afraid. He's completely done his seductiones cordis amplitudinem
One hopes he makes a full recovery.
Really? I don't find this funny. You may not like what someone says but calling them a bellend is being the afore mentioned yourself.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 06:44:53 PMin all areas? Does that mean we are looking at proper managers too?
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
Quote from: fulhamben on August 15, 2015, 06:48:48 PMHe didn't say all areas did he? Thought I heard he said areas he believes need strengtheningQuote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 06:44:53 PMin all areas? Does that mean we are looking at proper managers too?
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
Quote from: westcliff white on August 15, 2015, 07:23:39 PMeven a blind man could see we need to strengthen in the managerial area though, so it must be trueQuote from: fulhamben on August 15, 2015, 06:48:48 PMHe didn't say all areas did he? Thought I heard he said areas he believes need strengtheningQuote from: mkras99 on August 15, 2015, 06:44:53 PMin all areas? Does that mean we are looking at proper managers too?
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/15/manager-reaction)
Asked what the latest was on the transfer front, Symons replied in his post-match press conference: "We're very close to a couple but until they're done I won't name names. We're very, very close to one and hopefully close to another as well.
"We're looking at several players at the moment. We're looking to strengthen in areas I feel need strengthening."
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 16, 2015, 10:58:33 AMQuote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
He'll of been impressed with the huge QPR faithfuls dedication....all 48000 of them snuck into the ground dressed as empty seats. Great atmosphere.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2015, 12:58:44 PMIt's a better indication than Fulham are preparing a bid thoughQuote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
According to a few on twitter,Dwight Gayle was having a cosy up with less ferdinand at the qpr game last night.
Just like the cosy up that Ferdinand was having with Ream the night before.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 16, 2015, 04:00:58 PMQuote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
He won their player of the year for the past few seasons. So while not a great improvement on what we have he is an improvement none the less.
Quote from: BarryP on August 16, 2015, 03:55:27 PMloQuote from: BedsFFC on August 16, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Lets be honest, fans forums are a really good way of gauging a players ability. Bolton fans seem completely indifferent. This caught my eye.
As a centre half, Ream looked like he could be a decent full back & as a full back, he looked like he could be a decent midfield player.
I've no complaints with the effort that Ream put in for us, he just wasn't that good, & I wish him well, but any club in our financial position would be barmy to turn down £1m+, plus add ons, plus the big wage savings for someone who is effectively a reserve player now.
Fan forums are a terrible way of judging player ability particularly during a transfer window. Too much emotional impact to the fans.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 16, 2015, 06:07:42 PMone bloke saying it as far as I can see
All over Twitter...we have apparently put in a bid of £10m for Gayle (£8+add ons).
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 16, 2015, 06:26:59 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 16, 2015, 06:07:42 PMone bloke saying it as far as I can see
All over Twitter...we have apparently put in a bid of £10m for Gayle (£8+add ons).
Quote from: WONKYTONKY on August 16, 2015, 10:06:45 PM
Someone just posted this. Sounds like we got a new septic on board 049:gif:
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx (http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 10:17:21 PMQuote from: WONKYTONKY on August 16, 2015, 10:06:45 PM
Someone just posted this. Sounds like we got a new septic on board 049:gif:
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx (http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/video-reaction-neil-lennon-post-middlesbrough-2623410.aspx)
Without sounding to ungrateful, this isn't a signing that's going to make any real difference, or one I will chose to get excited about. Smacks me in the face as a panic signing after chasing Lewis Dunk for weeks with no outcome.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 06:15:52 PMFulham are probably sat waiting for a call from Brighton say we'll take the 2.5m for him, in the mean time another club will come in and pa what Brighton are looking for
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
Quote from: Nero on August 16, 2015, 10:47:52 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 16, 2015, 06:15:52 PMFulham are probably sat waiting for a call from Brighton say we'll take the 2.5m for him, in the mean time another club will come in and pa what Brighton are looking for
Dunk nowhere near done by all accounts. We've not even been back with an improved offer. Was benched yesterday because of a training ground dispute, doesn't want to play for B&HA. Ream is apparently a panic buy by FFC.
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
Quote from: Snibbo on August 17, 2015, 09:12:28 AMQuote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Quote from: Twig on August 17, 2015, 10:35:12 AMQuote from: Snibbo on August 17, 2015, 09:12:28 AMQuote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Sadly true. But this negativity is an illustration of where many of the supporters are right now. We have suffered 3, possibly 4, years of decline and many inexplicable decisions by the club's management team. End result is a cynical atmosphere and a tendency to see the worst in everything. There are still those who try to resist this attitude, and I am not defending it, but you sure as hell can understand and sympathise with supporters who have had enough.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 17, 2015, 10:55:50 AM
Really, really, really pee'd off that we didn't rectify our defensive issues before the start of this season. It's not negativity, it's frustration that the Club knew about this all last season, and had this summer to act, but we haven't, we continued to stockpile midfielders.
Whether or not the Dunk rumours are true, why have we left it this late, even to bring Ream in?! Regardless, we should have been looking abroad for adequate replacements in time.
Regardless of Hutchinson's good start, he was always a mistake waiting to happen, and he's done it 2 games in. We're now also 5 pts off a good start, possibly 8 by the time Wednesday night comes.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 17, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Turning around an mile long oil tanker in mid stream is a tricky manoeuvre.
Reckon we are a third of the way there.
Next season we will be all ahead forward.
Patience dear friends.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 17, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Turning around an mile long oil tanker in mid stream is a tricky manoeuvre.
Reckon we are a third of the way there.
Next season we will be all ahead forward.
Patience dear friends.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 17, 2015, 11:51:20 AM
There is a rumour that Ream will be confirmed today, not a bad signing, plays CB can cover LB (handy with Garbutt out) and also cover defensive midfield if we get a plethora of injuries in midfield.
Like to see another CB follow if I am honest
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PMI do not think we do have a squad that can challenge for top 6, we are short of required talent at CB, Hutch is prone to rash actions, tale Saturday as the latest example, Bodurov doesn't fill me with confidence either, then we have Burn, he has something and I do believe he will come good but he needs a leader next to him to bring him through more. None of those 3 are overly quick either and all turn slowly as well. I liked Turner last season and all 3 of the linked CB's would be an upgrade. If we could take two from those linked and Turner I would be a happy man.
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
Quote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PMno way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
Quote from: Fernhurst on August 17, 2015, 02:10:10 PMIf our ducks get in a row. I'm not convinced we will get 2 CB's in. Or a pacey striker.
It will be interesting to watch our team when all the ducks are in a row (2x CB's and a fast striker)
A short term deal for another Roma fullback wouldn't go amiss to top it off?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PMQuote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PMno way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PMQuote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PMno way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
Quote from: Twig on August 17, 2015, 03:52:36 PMwe didn't just lose Ruiz from midfield. And how can you lose Hugo and Mitro, replace them with no one and call it neutral?Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PMQuote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PMno way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
I understand this point of view but I think you overstate this just a bit;
Goalkeeping - improved
Defence - lost some players with only Garbutt coming in and he's now injured - weakened
Midfield - sold Ruiz, but some very useful strengthening although we still lack width - improved
Up front - lost a potentially top quality striker who was always either injured or uncommitted but the youngsters are a year older and stronger - neutral
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PMIf we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the moneyQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 04:41:09 PMI think you have hit the nail on the head.Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PMIf we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the moneyQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 04:49:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 04:41:09 PMI think you have hit the nail on the head.Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PMIf we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the moneyQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
Quote from: Snibbo on August 17, 2015, 09:12:28 AMQuote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2015, 08:47:05 AM
We just watched Voser get screwed into the ground for 90 minutes, our CBs are awful, we currently have no available/experienced cover for O'Hara, and Garbutt and (especially) Grimmer are out injured for awhile.
Tim Ream wasn't a panic buy. Tim Ream was an absolute necessity as we continue to nail down other moves on top of that.
When we don't buy someone, we're hopeless in the transfer market
When we do buy someone, it's a panic buy and they're useless.
When we won't pay the asking price, we're tight arses.
When we do pay the asking price, we're mugs
Of course.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 17, 2015, 04:58:54 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 04:49:04 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 04:41:09 PMI think you have hit the nail on the head.Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 17, 2015, 04:33:24 PMIf we was going to then surely we would of by now. The bloke is listed so no need to wait to bid. Also we went for mattila and now Ream over mcdonald and Dunk, so I just don't think we have the moneyQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Lee Anderson @LeeJAndersson 2h2 hours ago
Sticking with #CPFC it appears #FFC may have some competition from a Premier League club who've also bid the asking price for Dwight Gayle.
Another character called Incognito Journalist with 25k followers said Fulham haven't bid on Gayle and are unlikely to?
If we weren't arsed about results and just wanted a day out Khan would be in his hard hat getting us an enormous screen. When we want to achieve he goes missing.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 11:32:24 PM
How much of a sunk cost are these two guys? I dread to think of what Parker and Tunnicliffe earn weekly combined. If we could offload both I would jump at the opportunity!
Quote from: SKSW6 on July 08, 2015, 11:29:48 AMQuote from: Domino 1879 on July 08, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
An avid Falkirk FC friend tells me we have enquired about Botti Biabi, nineteen year old striker, raw talent. Reported in Falkirk Herald last Thursday apparently. Swansea also interested.
With Woodrow and Dembele with the first team, our U21s are really short on strikers, so this makes sense.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 03:56:20 PMQuote from: Twig on August 17, 2015, 03:52:36 PMwe didn't just lose Ruiz from midfield. And how can you lose Hugo and Mitro, replace them with no one and call it neutral?Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2015, 02:07:07 PMQuote from: spoken on August 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PMno way is this squad good enough, it's worse than last season's if you ask me. Better midfield marginally,but weaker everywhere else
Can't help but think the existing squad is good enough to challenge for the top 6 but are being held back by the guy who picks the team, tactics and "motivates" them. Kit seems to think having a bunch of players that get on is all it will take. With such a short sighted perception we will fall short this season.
I am afraid I remain in the "kit isn't up to it camp" despite really wanting him to succeed too.
I understand this point of view but I think you overstate this just a bit;
Goalkeeping - improved
Defence - lost some players with only Garbutt coming in and he's now injured - weakened
Midfield - sold Ruiz, but some very useful strengthening although we still lack width - improved
Up front - lost a potentially top quality striker who was always either injured or uncommitted but the youngsters are a year older and stronger - neutral
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 18, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
Eisfeld apparently having his contract terminated.
So 500k, if not more, on Eisfeld and 300k on Kiraly. We also have to pay Eisfeld off. Bones of a million quid chucked away. Could have used it to buy Dunk ;)
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 18, 2015, 08:49:11 AMwould love to see kasami back in a whites shirt.
I read in the Swiss press that Kasami wants to leave Greece. His transfer to Fiorentina seems to be collapsing. So he is meant to be looking for a club in England. I would take him back in a heartbeat. He would bring some passion and grit.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 18, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
Eisfeld apparently having his contract terminated.
So 500k, if not more, on Eisfeld and 300k on Kiraly. We also have to pay Eisfeld off. Bones of a million quid chucked away. Could have used it to buy Dunk ;)
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PMBecause we are penny pinching and NOT serious about promotion?
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 18, 2015, 07:06:00 PMQuote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PMBecause we are penny pinching and NOT serious about promotion?
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 18, 2015, 07:06:00 PMThat's ALL their money if the City boards are to be believed. Gambling everything on one player is a risk.. As we did last year. And remember they are allowed a loss of 13mQuote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PMBecause we are penny pinching and NOT serious about promotion?
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 18, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
Maybe, but we appear (so far) to have spent all ours on the midfield.
We are extremely weak in defence and I can't see us being amongst the top scorers!
We are still very narrow too, even though we added to midfield.
I don't know, but it all seems uncoordinated (no idea/no plan) to me?
I really, really hope I'm wrong and being pessimistic for no reason - but I can't help it.
I see no real improvement and am worried about another terribly stressful season.
Come on Fulham - give me back those days or real excitement and expectation that I've missed for a good few seasons now!
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Quote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:08:20 PMQuote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 18, 2015, 11:11:12 PMQuote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:08:20 PMQuote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
You want to sign a 31yo CB over a 23yo budding star CB for a team that a) isn't ready for promotion this season and b) needs to sell players to make budget/buy more players. Mmmkay.
Quote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:45:24 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on August 18, 2015, 11:11:12 PMQuote from: twang on August 18, 2015, 11:08:20 PMQuote from: os5889 mkII on August 18, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
James Collins could become the latest player to leave West Ham this summer, with Norwich interested.
Collins has just a year left on his contract and it is understood the Hammers are ready to listen to offers.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-transfers-james-collins-6275525)
If am honest would take quicker than you can say Kostantinos Mitroglou!! With Kit's Wales links wonder if he'd make an enquiry?
Exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign. I would much rather have Collins than Dunk.
You want to sign a 31yo CB over a 23yo budding star CB for a team that a) isn't ready for promotion this season and b) needs to sell players to make budget/buy more players. Mmmkay.
Yes I would rather have an experienced leader and no-nonsense defender with a few years left in him, than a young-ish Championship defender that some on here make out to be some kind of huge talent and/or saviour. There's nothing wrong with Dunk, but there wouldn't be with Burn either if he played for any other Championship team (as seen during his time with a struggling Birmingham team).
And as for not ready for promotion, what do you even mean by that? We have three years of parachute payments, after that we'll be less and less ready for every year that passes. And let's not kid ourselves that Kit is putting out a lineup full of youngsters each week that just needs a year or two to be ready, because he doesn't.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 19, 2015, 09:11:38 AMThat was mine util i read that the rules had changed, i would assume all ok, but you never know.Quote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
don't think work permit will be an issue. he is american and he has worked here for a few years already. my theory is we are closing in on a second player, club wants to annouce both transfers at the same time.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 19, 2015, 09:11:44 AMQuote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
It's to be expected when you involve any government department, Ream's probably been sat with a ticket in the queue outside Borough tube station for 36 hours.
Quote from: Nero on August 19, 2015, 09:38:23 AMQuote from: os5889 mkII on August 19, 2015, 09:11:44 AMQuote from: westcliff white on August 19, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Maybe Ream's work permit is the issue and hence why we have gone in for Tarkowski if the reports are true. Lets face it we do not know with any certainty if we have bid (or bid again) for Dunk or Tarkowski, its all speculation from media and social media.
Makes for some fun though hehe
It's to be expected when you involve any government department, Ream's probably been sat with a ticket in the queue outside Borough tube station for 36 hours.
That and we have probably put a wrong date on a form and hes joining us in 2016
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on August 19, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
Still don't understand why we haven't gone back in for Michael Turner he is a solid pro will organise the defence & with a better midfield this year I think he will do well
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 19, 2015, 08:30:30 AM
Apparently we have gone back for Tarkowski. At least according to TalkSport. 5m offer.
So either the Dunk saga is turning sour and we want an option/bargaining chip. Or we are in for both (we can always dream).
Quote from: f321ffc on August 19, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 19, 2015, 11:58:51 AM
Fulham after Arsenal youngster on loan http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/? (http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/?)
Quote from: Nero on August 19, 2015, 12:05:38 PMIf true then I give up...Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 19, 2015, 11:58:51 AM
Fulham after Arsenal youngster on loan http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/? (http://dailycannon.com/2015/08/rangers-face-anxious-wait-for-zelalem-amid-other-offers/?)
so we didn't play our 18 year old last season and he buggers off to city but we will play Arsenals
Quote from: Ordar on August 19, 2015, 12:00:10 PMQuote from: f321ffc on August 19, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
That is disappointing
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 19, 2015, 12:22:29 PMQuote from: Ordar on August 19, 2015, 12:00:10 PMQuote from: f321ffc on August 19, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Brentford chairman just tweeted that Tarkowski bid is not true.
That is disappointing
Did he? Cant find it on his Twitter?
We've had some ridiculous long drawn out transfer sagas over the years but this takes the biscuit.
Stearman, then Dunk, Lees then Tarkowski then Dunk again then Tarkowski then Dunk etc etc etc.
Getting boring now
Quote from: Bracken White on August 19, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
Connor Goldson is a 22 year old centre back ... could be interesting!
Quote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:16:04 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:23:55 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
I've actually been critical of a lot of what Fulham have done so far this window, but UK government procedures, surprisingly, I haven't blamed the club for.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:31:51 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:23:55 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
I've actually been critical of a lot of what Fulham have done so far this window, but UK government procedures, surprisingly, I haven't blamed the club for.
I didn't slag off the Club, if you can find that anywhere in my quotes, then please highlight it for everyone to see, because I'm really puzzled.
My quotes of "You couldn't make this up" were in connection to the ongoing saga of sorting out our defensive issues, not the UK government procedure.
Like it or not, we're 3 games into what was supposed to have been a positive start to season, and we're still dicking around brining in senior CB's, which should have been sorted weeks/months ago.
Just admit it, you jumped down my throat for no cause.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:19:42 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:16:04 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Your "I'm not replying to your comments any more" quote the other day really lasted long didn't it? You really are a drama queen Wimbledon_Wally, sod off back over to CC.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:41:16 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:19:42 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:16:04 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
Couldn't make what up?
That the process of transferring international work visas via a central government agency (the UK border agency I believe) might be a less-than-simple process and might take a little time?
Yeah, what a shambles the club is. Sack the Board...we should be able to sidestep UK legislation on work permits and visas...it is disgusting that we might be held up because of such things.
Jesus wept. Any excuse to have a dig at the club. It is so sad.
Your "I'm not replying to your comments any more" quote the other day really lasted long didn't it? You really are a drama queen Wimbledon_Wally, sod off back over to CC.
I haven't been on CC for months. I left because of abusive people like you.
It's a shame that the Mods are allowing certain aspects of this forum go that way too nowadays.
I blame Kit and Khan, they get blamed for everything else so may as well continue with it.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 01:54:33 PM
Understood DannyBoi.
Thanks. Ben
Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 19, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:06:26 PMwhat, and bypass our statutory 2 week medical followed by the extra days wait to sign the paper workQuote from: Bronaldinho on August 19, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
Seems pretty clear that Dunk is headed for the exit, my only concern is that he'll go somewhere other than here...
Fingers crossed he'll be starting for us at the weekend.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:08:15 PMhe can keep garbutt company when he tears his hammy after 12 mins.
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 02:10:54 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:08:15 PMhe can keep garbutt company when he tears his hammy after 12 mins.
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 02:10:54 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:08:15 PMhe can keep garbutt company when he tears his hammy after 12 mins.
SSN reporting that Richardson is welcome to leave Villa. I'd have him back here in a second - would be great as either our LB or LM.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:17:33 PMQuote from: SKSW6 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:30 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 19, 2015, 01:04:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 19, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
@JPW_NBCSports: Update for #FFC fans on Tim Ream: I'm told FA transferring his visa sponsorship from Bolton to Fulham. Slight hold up with paperwork. #USMNT
You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't..
What? It's a standard procedure. Any excuse to slag Fulham off though, eh.
Oh here we go, another one that has to jump down your neck with a "Any excuse to slag Fulham off" quote. You're all getting boring now, you're as bad, if not worse, than the negative brigade.
These defensive issues should have been sorted out weeks/months ago, not dicking around 3 games into the season getting paperwork sorted out, standard procedure or not.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 19, 2015, 02:41:39 PM
Yeah Richardson really was the ultimate sick-note for us. Such a shame as he was/is a talented player.
I agree, if fit, he'd be a decent player in this league.
Big Phil Senderos anyone?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 19, 2015, 02:06:26 PMProbably the ha has after we stole Ream - Now that would really hurt!Quote from: Bronaldinho on August 19, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Without getting optimistic.
Brighton have agreed fee with Shrewsbury Town for Connor Goldson.
Could be the Dunk replacement especially as they just bought a German centre back too.
Seems pretty clear that Dunk is headed for the exit, my only concern is that he'll go somewhere other than here...
Fingers crossed he'll be starting for us at the weekend.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 19, 2015, 01:49:29 PM
Don't forget Mackintosh, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with anything either.
Quote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Quote from: grandad on August 19, 2015, 05:54:39 PMQuote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
Quote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:59:39 PMQuote from: grandad on August 19, 2015, 05:54:39 PMQuote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
As did Taggert...Garbett...
Quote from: grandad on August 19, 2015, 06:02:36 PMQuote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:59:39 PMQuote from: grandad on August 19, 2015, 05:54:39 PMQuote from: alexbishop on August 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
he's only just arrived for the medical?? This could take another week...!
Andy Johnson & Mitroglou passed our medical in no time at all .
As did Taggert...Garbett...
Those 2 were fit when they came here. I think Johnson may have been but Mitro was crocked.
Quote from: Shredhead on August 19, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
I was just talking to a friend who told me someone he knows who works at the Brighton training ground has said Dunk's coming to us. But that may have been before Saturday's game!
Quote from: Shredhead on August 19, 2015, 06:52:11 PMAccording to yesterday's Argus newspaper Brighton have rejected Fulham's £5 million new offer for Dunk but could be fighting a losing battle to keep hold of him in the face of persistent interest from Fulham and possibly Newcastle
I was just talking to a friend who told me someone he knows who works at the Brighton training ground has said Dunk's coming to us. But that may have been before Saturday's game!
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AMFrom day 1 I've asked this, still have no idea. There is little cash to be made by an owner outside the PL so why anyone who isn't a fan of football or the club buys a team without the intent to take it to another level (which usually involves spending) in my eyes is viewed as suspicious.
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Quote from: The Rock on August 20, 2015, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Recent transfer activity would suggest that 110% accurate!
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 12:40:21 PMWhy bother employ Rigg though? Why would Rigg take the job (apart form the quadrupling of his wages) ?Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Why do you think Mike "Creative" Rigg was employed? To help aid all transfers and spend as little money as possible. In his interview with Kit and Ali Mac, he openly said that the Club was looking to be "creative" and bring in players that are "right" for FFC. In other words, as cheap as possible.
From that moment on, I then knew that Mr Khan had NO interest in investing that heavily in FFC, bit only enough to keep us afloat.
Like many others on here, I really want to know what his true intentions are.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 12:43:35 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 12:40:21 PMWhy bother employ Rigg though? Why would Rigg take the job (apart form the quadrupling of his wages) ?Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Gazza on TFI says Khan is reluctant to release funds. That is that then, if true.
What is Khan's game?
Why do you think Mike "Creative" Rigg was employed? To help aid all transfers and spend as little money as possible. In his interview with Kit and Ali Mac, he openly said that the Club was looking to be "creative" and bring in players that are "right" for FFC. In other words, as cheap as possible.
From that moment on, I then knew that Mr Khan had NO interest in investing that heavily in FFC, bit only enough to keep us afloat.
Like many others on here, I really want to know what his true intentions are.
We are stagnating.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
vydra to forest on loan is shown on sky sports as a rumour
Quote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PMSky saying Gray has turned down Bristol City and Hull are now favourites to sign him
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 20, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Ream
https://mobile.twitter.com/RememberThe33/status/634341515003863040/photos
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 20, 2015, 12:58:07 PMQuote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
vydra to forest on loan is shown on sky sports as a rumour
Would be a good signing for Forest (or any team in this league). Guess Watford aren't convinced he can cut it at the top level...
Quote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 03:35:26 PM
Shock horror. Andre gray turns down bristol city
Quote from: spikey norman on August 20, 2015, 03:20:01 PMQuote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PMSky saying Gray has turned down Bristol City and Hull are now favourites to sign him
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 04:51:59 PMdo we know how close we are to balancing the books though?
I agree grandad but if the rumour is true and QPR are only going to get an 8 million fine for being 60 odd million over then it actually doesn't put you off going over.
But as I say I agree with you, we should not go down this route, at least until FFP has been clarified by the league after the QPR judgement is official.
Quote from: grandad on August 20, 2015, 04:47:18 PMOn that subject read about how deep Bolton are in it here http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/8/19/9175719/wanderers-debt-and-new-owner-hunt-revealed
I just don´t like this Khan bashing. How many times do some have to be reminded that we have FFP restrictions. Even if Khan wanted to spend £200 million on players he would not, under the rules, avoid the club being heavily fined & have an embargo on future transfers.
The days of MAF are no longer with us. We are only allowed to post losses of £13 million.
Read all the great articles by MJG. You will then understand a bit better.
The only other option is to do what Boro are doing & go for broke. I would not want my club to go this way. If Boro miss out they will be in big trouble.
Quote from: Chutney on August 20, 2015, 04:53:15 PMTell that to Blackburn and Forest
Breaking FFP gets you a slap on the wrist, not worth playing by the rules in that case.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 04:39:20 PMQuote from: spikey norman on August 20, 2015, 03:20:01 PMQuote from: grandad on August 18, 2015, 05:38:21 PMSky saying Gray has turned down Bristol City and Hull are now favourites to sign him
Bristol City have signed Andre Gray for £9 mil. How are they able to pay this sort of money while we only can raise petty cash & still not get Dunk and or Gayle in.
At least there will be one worst team than us this season, we just need to find another 2 now.
Quote from: MJG on August 20, 2015, 04:56:36 PMQuote from: grandad on August 20, 2015, 04:47:18 PMOn that subject read about how deep Bolton are in it here http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/8/19/9175719/wanderers-debt-and-new-owner-hunt-revealed (http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/8/19/9175719/wanderers-debt-and-new-owner-hunt-revealed)
I just don´t like this Khan bashing. How many times do some have to be reminded that we have FFP restrictions. Even if Khan wanted to spend £200 million on players he would not, under the rules, avoid the club being heavily fined & have an embargo on future transfers.
The days of MAF are no longer with us. We are only allowed to post losses of £13 million.
Read all the great articles by MJG. You will then understand a bit better.
The only other option is to do what Boro are doing & go for broke. I would not want my club to go this way. If Boro miss out they will be in big trouble.
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Quote from: BedsFFC on August 20, 2015, 06:36:31 PMIf you get promoted then its a fine, if you stay down and break the rules its a transfer embargo with rules attached to that.
OK, can someone who knows FFP tell me this.
If we do break the rules and remain in this league. Do we get a fine or a transfer embargo?
And if it is the latter, is this because the rules have changed since QPR...sorry qpr broke the rules?
Quote from: Oakeshott on August 20, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Khan owns two major(ish) sporting clubs and has had one for over three full seasons and the other for over two.
Question: has any owner of one or more broadly comparable club for an aggregate of at least five years ever been so wholly unsuccessful in terms of percentage of games won? Financial prudence is important but so is achievement on the field.
Quote from: cmg on August 20, 2015, 07:11:11 PMprobably helps that they get the choice of the best young talent every year through the draft tooQuote from: Oakeshott on August 20, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Khan owns two major(ish) sporting clubs and has had one for over three full seasons and the other for over two.
Question: has any owner of one or more broadly comparable club for an aggregate of at least five years ever been so wholly unsuccessful in terms of percentage of games won? Financial prudence is important but so is achievement on the field.
Joan Whitney Payson was founder/owner of the New York Mets when they started in the National League in 1962. They finished last with a record number of losses. For the next six seasons they finished last, last, last, 2nd from last, last and 2nd from last. In 1969 the 'Miracle' Mets won the World Series.
Hang on in there. (Although it is handy when there's no relegation.)
Quote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMthere's a whole thread on it, might have slipped to page twoQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 08:01:30 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMthere's a whole thread on it, might have slipped to page twoQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 20, 2015, 08:01:38 PMGayle is fast turning into the new tom ince
Brighton in for Gayle and have heald talks by all accounts
Quote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PMWhy would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 20, 2015, 08:06:07 PMsomeone spotted on tiff that in the Ream interview, Ream himself suggests that some more money might be spentQuote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PMWhy would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 08:11:48 PMI do not want to rain on the parade, but Ream's comments are open to interpretation - he could be referring to the window as a whole. You might imagine too that during the signing process he would have been told about all the players to whom we are talking.Quote from: FulhamStu on August 20, 2015, 08:06:07 PMsomeone spotted on tiff that in the Ream interview, Ream himself suggests that some more money might be spentQuote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PMWhy would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 21, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
Nottingham Forest, Fulham and Bolton all chasing Crystal Palace winger Sullay Kaikai on loan. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/21/forest-fulham-and-bolton-eye-palaces-kaikai/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/21/forest-fulham-and-bolton-eye-palaces-kaikai/)
Quote from: westcliff white on August 21, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
Maloney to hull apparently
Quote from: Barry@ENF on August 20, 2015, 09:41:12 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 20, 2015, 08:11:48 PMI do not want to rain on the parade, but Ream's comments are open to interpretation - he could be referring to the window as a whole. You might imagine too that during the signing process he would have been told about all the players to whom we are talking.Quote from: FulhamStu on August 20, 2015, 08:06:07 PMsomeone spotted on tiff that in the Ream interview, Ream himself suggests that some more money might be spentQuote from: Holders on August 20, 2015, 08:00:07 PMWhy would TK say this is there was not every chance of more better players coming in. 2 more players another CB and quick striker and goalscorer and we will have a good squad that should challenge and Kit will have absolutely no excuses to lack of positive results. MF has been significantly improved. Defence currently slightly better once Garbut returns. Up front we are weaker, but that was not the problem last season. A quick forward will give us much better balance.Quote from: Lighthouse on August 20, 2015, 07:58:27 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 20, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Tony Khan @TonyKhan 14m14 minutes ago
It's official! Welcome @timream5 of @ussoccer #USMNT to @FulhamFC! This is great news for FFC, and there will be more great news coming soon
I love the way this is almost universally ignored. Still I am looking forward to some great news.
If this is correct, it's encouraging and welcome communication. Let's hope we aren't disappointed.
As to relying on a Khan quote, well, need I say more?
Of course, like everyone else, I will be F5'ing; but more in hope than expectation.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 21, 2015, 01:06:06 PM
Eisfeld gone to Bochum. official.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 21, 2015, 01:06:06 PM
Eisfeld gone to Bochum. official.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/21/eisfeld-seals-bochum-switch (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/21/eisfeld-seals-bochum-switch)
Eisfeld Seals Bochum Switch
Fulham can confirm that midfielder Thomas Eisfield has sealed a permanent switch to German side Vfl Bochum.
A 2014 summer signing from Arsenal, Eisfeld made seven appearances for the Whites last term before joining Bochum on loan for the remainder of the campaign in February. The German now returns to Bochum, who currently top 2. Bundesliga, on a permanent basis.
Everyone at Fulham would like to wish Thomas all the best for his future career
Quote from: Riverside on August 21, 2015, 03:03:04 PM5 is probably being saved until we know if amorebieta stays
Just checking shirt numbers
Ream has been given 13
Go of the 11 - 5 and 7 have not been allocated yet .......
Quote from: westcliff white on August 21, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
He didn't have 5 before I don't think.
Quote from: Oakeshott on August 21, 2015, 06:18:46 PMi have a feeling ream will be a left back for us and not a centre back
"dunk, a pacey striker and a new manager will be good"
Agreed. My priority would be manager first, then striker, then Dunk. (A good manager will be able to blend Ream and either Burn or Hutchinson into a decent partnership.)
Quote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Quote from: Nero on August 22, 2015, 08:22:46 AM:plus one:
for what Brighton are wanting for Dunk we could probably go and pay for a Premier League defender,
Quote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 08:13:31 AMQuote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Bit like buying a car, you make an offer seller turns it down make another seller turns it down and so on until a handshake on the price.
Brighton have bought at least 2 maybe 3 central defenders this window so I think they are resigned to losing Dunk but are intent on pulling our trousers down on this deal, I haven't seen a long list of clubs after Dunk so maybe time to say ok keep him and see what their reaction is , as I said bit like buying a car go to walk away and suddenly a realistic price is mentioned, just a thought.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 22, 2015, 10:27:01 AMQuote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 08:13:31 AMQuote from: f321ffc on August 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM
Time to walk away or ask how much they want. :dead horse:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/? (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/13619925.Albion_reject_bids_for_Dunk_AND_Stephens/?)
Bit like buying a car, you make an offer seller turns it down make another seller turns it down and so on until a handshake on the price.
Brighton have bought at least 2 maybe 3 central defenders this window so I think they are resigned to losing Dunk but are intent on pulling our trousers down on this deal, I haven't seen a long list of clubs after Dunk so maybe time to say ok keep him and see what their reaction is , as I said bit like buying a car go to walk away and suddenly a realistic price is mentioned, just a thought.
Very well put, having been in the motor trade, I bet a lot of posters on hear don't see it that way. We don't know the finer details of the deal being offered or what's going on with Fulhams deals and it would be very Fulhamish for us to sign someone who has not been on the supporters radar. The next 10 days are going to be a very interesting with me and many supporters checking the web site every 15 minutes, just like kids at Christmas!!
Quote from: f321ffc on August 24, 2015, 08:45:24 AMIf he is good enough to improve our team, then probably not. He might have a less effective eastern European cousin that we might sign... Thats way more likely
Will we ever sign him?
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13621344.Albion_fine_Dunk_for_refusing_to_play_in_cup_tie/ (http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/13621344.Albion_fine_Dunk_for_refusing_to_play_in_cup_tie/)
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AMWho are they?
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
Quote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 24, 2015, 11:47:01 AMQuote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 03:48:23 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on August 24, 2015, 11:47:01 AMQuote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
But have we signed the "right" kind of players? Yes, they have championship experience, but Kit is or was known to play narrow last season. No wingers have been bought. We have been a bit unlucky with defensive injuries, but four games in and our defense is still not situated. Also, we don't have a penetrating striker either. All I'm saying is it seems like we are limiting out scope of players to sign by not looking elsewhere.
Quote from: hopper on August 24, 2015, 03:51:20 PMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 03:48:23 PMQuote from: Northern Cottager on August 24, 2015, 11:47:01 AMQuote from: Holders on August 24, 2015, 11:26:55 AMQuote from: VamosFFC on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 24, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
We started well in the market by aiming for realistic names that could help. Now we seem to be mentioned with overrated, high end players for our position and are struggling to get any. We should lower our expectations?
I have to agree. Also, someone needs to tell Kit or Rigg to stop with only scouting "championship experienced" players. We need to look elsewhere. There are so many players we are missing out on. It could even be league one players ready to make the step up.
That wasn't a criterion that Tigana used!
And when we take on unproven League 1 players who struggle to make an impact we go back to why don't we get experienced players!
I'm happy with the names we're linked at and all the players we've signed so far. A few gaps but we can't deny that we've signed the right 'kind' of players.
But have we signed the "right" kind of players? Yes, they have championship experience, but Kit is or was known to play narrow last season. No wingers have been bought. We have been a bit unlucky with defensive injuries, but four games in and our defense is still not situated. Also, we don't have a penetrating striker either. All I'm saying is it seems like we are limiting out scope of players to sign by not looking elsewhere.
Pringle is a winger!
Quote from: ollienixs on August 24, 2015, 07:08:50 PM
So as a squad we are not performing and have some glaring issues. Up top and at the back. However we have opted to take a washed up keeper on loan as cover and that is all. I can't quite understand what the board must be thinking
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Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PMCan you blame him, relegation scrap with kit or promotion shot with Brighton
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PMoh well... 094.gif
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 24, 2015, 09:00:16 PMand it was embarrassing for man u too.
why is it embarrassing? that's football these things happen, happened to Man Utd with Pedro and its happened to us with Dunk, and will happen to a lot more clubs
Quote from: fulhamben on August 24, 2015, 09:06:47 PMfor me that's just football,, these things happen. teams are often played by agents to get better deals form their players present club or another club, that's just lifeQuote from: westcliff white on August 24, 2015, 09:00:16 PMand it was embarrassing for man u too.
why is it embarrassing? that's football these things happen, happened to Man Utd with Pedro and its happened to us with Dunk, and will happen to a lot more clubs
Quote from: mkras99 on August 24, 2015, 09:12:54 PMIt's not difficult, we obviously have a good chunk to buy one, but some twit decided that they have to be from the championship.
To be fair, who looks more likely to get promoted in the next two-three years, us or Brighton. Depressing what things have come to and how difficult it is for us to improve our CBs.
Quote from: horse1031 on August 24, 2015, 09:21:39 PMwe will never know because we wasted so much time going back and fourth with bids that never got excepted. The worst part is, we have had a shocking start to the season because we never addressed our defensive issues
Maybe Dunk never wanted to come here...?
He would have handed in a transfer request if he really wanted out? Seems like he wanted to stay to me and its not like he went to QPR or something like that, he stayed with his own club.
I dont think that is embarrassing.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PMWe're we linked with him then. 093.gif
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Quote from: spikey norman on August 24, 2015, 09:45:28 PM
West Ham's James Collins appears to be available and might be a decent alternative to Dunk at this late stage in the window.
Quote from: FFCByTheRiver on August 24, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
Lewis Dunk has just signed a new 5-year deal with Brighton.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:19:04 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
Sadly you are probably right, the next six days could see us paying over the odds for a player who is no better than the ones we already have.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:31:54 AMwasn't Tarkowski plan b and Ream c?Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:19:04 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
Sadly you are probably right, the next six days could see us paying over the odds for a player who is no better than the ones we already have.
thats what i am worried about. this will be a good test of how well we are being run at the moment. hopefully the management would have planned for the potential of the dunk deal falling through, hopefully they would have had a plan B and C - lets see what happens.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 25, 2015, 11:56:58 AMWhy we didn't keep Turner for another season is anyone's guess.
Collins and Turner would be great options IMO. Or Lascelles on loan.
Think they'd all be available too.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 25, 2015, 12:11:47 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 25, 2015, 11:56:58 AMWhy we didn't keep Turner for another season is anyone's guess.
Collins and Turner would be great options IMO. Or Lascelles on loan.
Think they'd all be available too.
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 25, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
Lescott is rumoured to be surplus at WBA. He's 33, so maybe he'd come to the championship?
http://talksport.com/football/west-brom-target-manchester-united-defender-jonny-evans-joleon-lescott-told-he-can-leave (http://talksport.com/football/west-brom-target-manchester-united-defender-jonny-evans-joleon-lescott-told-he-can-leave)
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:31:54 AMthe club may have plan A all the way through to Z, but it is no good if none of them want to come to FulhamQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 25, 2015, 11:19:04 AMQuote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 11:09:31 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 25, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Fulham and QPR target Watford's Gabriele Angella
HITC Sport understands Watford defender Gabriele Angella has emerged as a loan target for Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Fulham and Queens Park Rangers are eyeing moves for Watford defender Gabriele Angella as they look to bring in a central defender before the close of the transfer window.
Angella, who signed a new five-year deal at Watford earlier in the summer, has found himself down the pecking order in Quique Sanchez Flores' plans so far this season.
The Italian was an unused substitute in the opening two Premier League games against Everton and West Bromwich Albion, while he was not even in the squad for last weekend's draw with Southampton.
The news has alerted a number of clubs to Angella's possible availability with the 26-year-old playing a key role in Watford's successful promotion from the Championship last season.
Angella made 36 appearances last season for Watford as they finished second in the Championship and his performances have not gone unnoticed.
Fulham are in the market for a new central defender after being frustrated in their attempts to sign long-term Lewis Dunk from Brighton and they could now turn their attentions to Angella.
QPR are also desperate for defensive reinforcements with Chris Ramsey short of cover in central defence and they have missed out on several targets.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/fulham-and-qpr-target-watfords-gabriele-angella/)
This would be a great signing
in that case rest assured it won't happen :012:
Sadly you are probably right, the next six days could see us paying over the odds for a player who is no better than the ones we already have.
thats what i am worried about. this will be a good test of how well we are being run at the moment. hopefully the management would have planned for the potential of the dunk deal falling through, hopefully they would have had a plan B and C - lets see what happens.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 25, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Celtic eyeing move for Amo according to ESPN
Quote from: @jolslover on August 25, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/championship-trio-join-chase-for-forest-target/ (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/25/championship-trio-join-chase-for-forest-target/)
What a quality signing Matej Vydra would be. Absolute class player
Quote from: DeuceBigelow on August 25, 2015, 02:52:31 PM
The uncertainty around our manager is going to be a big hurdle for many prospective signings.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 25, 2015, 03:53:49 PMQuote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 25, 2015, 01:44:01 PMStraight swop for Virgil Van Dyjk 064.gif
Celtic eyeing move for Amo according to ESPN
Quote from: Nero on August 24, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
So Brighton manage to.sign a good fit centre half and the centre half we where chasing in the time we have signed a unfit centre half. This club is going places I look forward.to hyndman leaving for 100k and us putting in a bid for some unfit bloke that had a good game against us last year for 50k he's crap but got that important championship experience cos he an it good enough to play at a higher level
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 04:47:17 PMThis board used to be so friendly. Shame. Time for a break me thinks.Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 25, 2015, 03:53:49 PMQuote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Nope. like everyone else on here I give my own opinion.
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 05:26:53 PMQuote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 04:47:17 PMThis board used to be so friendly. Shame. Time for a break me thinks.Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 25, 2015, 03:53:49 PMQuote from: GloucesterWhite on August 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
There is no uncertainty - Kit certainly should go
So you represent the club?
Nope. like everyone else on here I give my own opinion.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 25, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
Symons was also asked if he expected to bring any further signings to the Club, to which he responded: "I hope so. I'm very, very confident there will be more additions. We're looking at two or three – two at least, maybe three, that's what we're after."
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/25/manager-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2015/august/25/manager-reaction)
Quote from: BestOfBrede on August 26, 2015, 08:22:14 AM
Now that Stones has handed in a transfer request I assume they will want Garbutt back (when fit) and we need a new left back?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 26, 2015, 03:17:12 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 03:27:30 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 26, 2015, 03:17:12 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
But RB's his natural position? Agree he could do a job at RM, but surely he'd be more helpful in his actual position, right?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 03:27:30 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 26, 2015, 03:17:12 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 26, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
I said a while back that I'd be looking at Yedlin if I were Rigg.
Now with Ream and Hyndman here, him being settled in London, and a need for an RB/RM with pace, I can see Yedlin being a good fit and wanting to come here.
Until Garbutt's back, I'd be happy with a back four of: Yedlin Ream Burn Jazz. Or, if we get another CB, stick Yedlin in RM, move Jazz back to the right and stick Ream at LB...
I think Yedlin would be a bit of a liability at RB until he got his feet good and wet, so to speak. He would be a nightmare for our opposition at RM however and could certainly fill in at RB should we be facing an emergency.
But RB's his natural position? Agree he could do a job at RM, but surely he'd be more helpful in his actual position, right?
Quote from: f321ffc on August 26, 2015, 07:54:52 PM
RE James Vaughan
"career plagued with injury and particularly over the last couple of years, he's been an infrequent player for the Terriers, who face a constant battle to keep him off the injury table.
The ex-Everton striker has now been told that he won't be offered a new contract when his deal expires at the end of the season, subsequently igniting interest from Kit Symons' Fulham."
Sounds just like the sort of player we seem to sign. 064.gif 090.gif 093.gif
Quote from: Chutney on August 26, 2015, 09:52:29 PMBefore he signed his new deal I would have agreed, now they want around 8/9 million
Demarai gray at 4.7mil would be a snip and should be our main target, imagine having an exciting pacey winger again.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:56:17 PMDidn't realize he had a buy out clause of 4.7 million, if that is true then we should be looking a that if we want pace out wideQuote from: Chutney on August 26, 2015, 09:52:29 PMBefore he signed his new deal I would have agreed, now they want around 8/9 million
Demarai gray at 4.7mil would be a snip and should be our main target, imagine having an exciting pacey winger again.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:48:38 AMNot sure which of the 3 i mentioned you refer too or if your referring to Vaughn.Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 07:36:42 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:48:38 AMNot sure which of the 3 i mentioned you refer too or if your referring to Vaughn.Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
re the three I mentioned Gayle would be decent for me, although I reckon we are waiting till the end of the window and trying for a loan move (with an option to buy), Tarkowski I doubt we will go for and Collins is not too bad. I think this is the level we are at these days, attracting better name players seems to be quite hard probably due to the last two seasons. Gray would be an exception I do think if we match the alleged release clause we may have a chance there.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 07:40:17 AMCool, Vaughn is terribleQuote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 07:36:42 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:48:38 AMNot sure which of the 3 i mentioned you refer too or if your referring to Vaughn.Quote from: westcliff white on August 26, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
James Vaughn please no, would rather go out and loan 3 players than buy the like of him. If we want a pacey forward loan Gayle or buy him, go and test Brentford's resolve for Tarkowski, or ask West Ham about Collins not my type of player but reckon he could do a job for us.
when kit said 2-3 players coming in the other day, i was and am fearful that they may be of this calibre.
re the three I mentioned Gayle would be decent for me, although I reckon we are waiting till the end of the window and trying for a loan move (with an option to buy), Tarkowski I doubt we will go for and Collins is not too bad. I think this is the level we are at these days, attracting better name players seems to be quite hard probably due to the last two seasons. Gray would be an exception I do think if we match the alleged release clause we may have a chance there.
i was referring to vaugh - the other 3 i would be happy with.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 27, 2015, 09:09:34 AM
PALACE TO LET GAYLE GO ON THE CHEAP
With a week left in the transfer window Crystal Palace are well aware of their need to sell after a transfer market where they have spent a considerable amount.
Palace have signed Yohan Cabaye, Connor Wickham, Bakary Sako and Patrick Bamford this summer and have all produced large transfer fees or wages for the Eagles to consider.
Now with Financial Fair Play rules in place the Londoners are well aware of their need to get players out of the club with Dwight Gayle a possible player to leave according to The Mirror.
Norwich City are an option to sign Gayle who have today had a £10 million bid for Benik Afobe rejected according to BBC, that being the third bid lodged by Alex Neil for the former Arsenal man as Kenny Jackett said last night the striker is not for sale.
Palace are now hoping that Lewis Grabban leaves for AFC Bournemouth, although Alex Neil said last night a deal for the forward was yet to be found between the clubs with the Canaries rejecting a third bid from Eddie Howe for the Cherries former forward.
Should Grabban leave Carrow Road as he has apparently asked that would leave Norwich looking for another striker and Palace are hoping that could see Gayle leave Selhurst Park. Alan Pardew is now considering allowing his striker to leave for a smaller fee than quoted earlier in the window in order to gain funds back from the signings he has already made.
http://transfernewscentral.com/2015/08/26/palace-let-gayle-go-cheap/ (http://transfernewscentral.com/2015/08/26/palace-let-gayle-go-cheap/)
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 27, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
Could Pardew (long a fan of FFC) possibly do us a favour regarding Gayle?
Even in these very money driven times
Buy out price & % share sell on clauses for Palace's benefit if / when a premiership side comes knocking (& we haven't managed to get back @ the time)
No need for the lad to move house
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
We may have to lower or expectations. A winger, a forward and a defender are planned but somehow I have a feeling many fans will not be happy at the reality of who we may get in.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 10:30:50 AMNailed on if big Sam was our manager.
what are the odds that we sign Kevin Nolan now he has left west ham.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 27, 2015, 09:40:52 AMQuote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 27, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
Could Pardew (long a fan of FFC) possibly do us a favour regarding Gayle?
Even in these very money driven times
Buy out price & % share sell on clauses for Palace's benefit if / when a premiership side comes knocking (& we haven't managed to get back @ the time)
No need for the lad to move house
The "Pardew is a Fulham fan" is a bit of a myth.
Interviewed before the Newcastle and Chelsea game last season he said and I quote, "this is the best Chelsea side I've seen and I've been watching them since I was 8 years old"
Unfortunately hes filth.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 09:55:05 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
We may have to lower or expectations. A winger, a forward and a defender are planned but somehow I have a feeling many fans will not be happy at the reality of who we may get in.
i thought you were one of the optimistic crowd?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 12:31:40 PM
Michael Mancienne of Notts Forest is the latest player to be rumoured to have had a bid by Fulham put forward.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on August 27, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
Michael Turner signs for Sheff Wed on a season loan
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PMMaybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:16:52 PMVery true, how much would they want though, circa 3.5 million?Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PMMaybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 01:27:49 PMI would have thought he's less than that, 2-3m top end, more than that I'd be surprised. But never know with our lot.Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:16:52 PMVery true, how much would they want though, circa 3.5 million?Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PMMaybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:34:13 PMif we are seriously interested in him (only seen this ITK on twitter not anywhere else) it would make sense to go hard and get this done soon and concentrate on the other 2 players Kit wants. ANyone have any other info on if we ar einterested?Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 01:27:49 PMI would have thought he's less than that, 2-3m top end, more than that I'd be surprised. But never know with our lot.Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:16:52 PMVery true, how much would they want though, circa 3.5 million?Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PMMaybe because of their FFP issues. They can only bring in one player for every player who goes out.
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 27, 2015, 01:41:26 PMIt's tomorrow at lunchtime for some reason. Usually away game ones are on a Thursday.
Am I right to expect a Kit press conference today? Or will it be tomorrow? Also, been a while since we got a Kit/Sarah Q&A. Expecting too much to get one of those this week?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PMHe has started all five games so far this season.The Nottingham Post reporting that we have bid between £1.5 and £2 million but Forest in no rush to sell
Mancienne would be a very decent signing, is he playing for Forest at present if he is not sure why they would sell him.
Quote from: MJG on August 27, 2015, 01:43:25 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 27, 2015, 01:41:26 PMIt's tomorrow at lunchtime for some reason. Usually away game ones are on a Thursday.
Am I right to expect a Kit press conference today? Or will it be tomorrow? Also, been a while since we got a Kit/Sarah Q&A. Expecting too much to get one of those this week?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
on sky sports website now - so this story seems to have some legs hopefully:
19:34
FULHAM MAKE MANCIENNE MOVE
Fulham have bid for Nottingham Forest defender Michael Mancienne, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old, who started his career with Chelsea, joined Forest in 2014 from Hamburg.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 27, 2015, 07:17:56 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 27, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
on sky sports website now - so this story seems to have some legs hopefully:
19:34
FULHAM MAKE MANCIENNE MOVE
Fulham have bid for Nottingham Forest defender Michael Mancienne, according to Sky sources.
The 27-year-old, who started his career with Chelsea, joined Forest in 2014 from Hamburg.
If true, then we've never really had a plan B since Dunk. Pretty risky this late into the window if it falls through, although we could go back for Turner on loan.. Oh wait.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2015, 10:21:51 PMI hate utility players. I'd rather a player that was so good in one position that we wouldn't dream of playing him anywhere else
Before we have the usual 'panic buy' debate. Mancienne has been playing left back and defensive midfield. As we have a longer term injury at left back, It makes sense that we have had ti change our plans and go for a player who is another utility defender like Ream.
Quote from: ..Kya.ffc.. on August 27, 2015, 11:16:00 PM
We could just add another Dane to our team. Erik Sviatchenko from FC Midtjylland. Earlier this month said he would be open towards a move to the championship as he would see that as a good stepping stone towards PL. Would be available for between 2.5 and 3.5m I reckon. Is a central defender and is currently Danish u21 and around 5th choice of the Danish national square(Denmark's strongest position). Is 23 years old.
Think he would be a good signing for us tbh. But ofc. he does not have that all important championship experience.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 27, 2015, 11:49:45 PMmeaning if we delay long enough one of our rivals may end up a central defender short
Looks like Forest are going to take their time with our bid and won't made a decision until after their Saturday league fixture.
http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delay-decision-Fulham-bid/story-27690453-detail/story.html#XXFlePqWHQRckYJz.01 (http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-delay-decision-Fulham-bid/story-27690453-detail/story.html#XXFlePqWHQRckYJz.01)
Quote from: WONKYTONKY on August 28, 2015, 12:39:50 AM
DARRYL LACHMAN - Lad on Facebook saying he's a target for us. Seems a weird one as he's just signed for them (wednesday) in June. Can't see it happening but thought I'd chuck it out there. Don't know much about him. Anyone seen much of him @ Twente or Ajax?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 28, 2015, 12:53:49 AMThats bigger than the other defender were linked with. Mancienne is pretty short.Quote from: WONKYTONKY on August 28, 2015, 12:39:50 AM
DARRYL LACHMAN - Lad on Facebook saying he's a target for us. Seems a weird one as he's just signed for them (wednesday) in June. Can't see it happening but thought I'd chuck it out there. Don't know much about him. Anyone seen much of him @ Twente or Ajax?
Only know that he is a mystery to most Wednesday supporters who have yet to see him play. Proper centre half but only 6/2.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AMWe would lose him for 6 weeks from January during the season for the cup of nations, also had some injury problems not played more than 25 odd games in any of the last 4 seasons. However he is a decent player
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Quote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 08:29:37 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
This a twitter rumour?
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:59:21 AMQuote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 08:29:37 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
This a twitter rumour?
Yep looks that way, sadly
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Quote from: cmg on August 28, 2015, 09:25:06 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 09:53:09 AMLyon fans seem quite pleased about the move! Worrying.Quote from: cmg on August 28, 2015, 09:25:06 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
Maybe but then Olympique Lyonnaisfar better than anyone Bodurov has played for.
Quote from: Airfix on August 28, 2015, 11:19:33 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 09:53:09 AMLyon fans seem quite pleased about the move! Worrying.Quote from: cmg on August 28, 2015, 09:25:06 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on August 28, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
Made a £2m bid for 6ft 2" centre back Bakary Kone according to the Sun. Regular for Lyon and 52 caps for Burkina Faso. Sounds a massive upgrade on what we've got.
Was close to joining Newcastle a few years ago fir big money , Leicester been linked recently too
Sounds interesting enough. But I'm not sure that a player with 50 odd caps for Burkina Faso is necessarilly such a massive upgrade on one who has 30 odd for Bulgaria.
Maybe but then Olympique Lyonnaisfar better than anyone Bodurov has played for.
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Quote from: jayffc on August 28, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
I try not to judge players too harshly before seeing them play for us but Bakary Kone appears to be the Titus Bramble of Ligue 1 in that no one can believe he's managed to maintain a career in a top league and he's prone to numerous ridiculous elaborate errors... just from a brief look through twitter you can see how people feel about him. Parody videos of him from fans pretending to make him look good and advertise him for sale at 10mil (tongue in cheek) funny vine reaction videos of players who are joining Lyon finding out they might have to play alongside Kone etc - tweets from Lyon fans across the board rejoicing at his departure all over the place - a real laughing stock in the French league by all accounts. Worrying if true, would rather Mancienne or Stearman by the looks of things!
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 28, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Boro News and Info @boronewsmfc 15m15 minutes ago
Fernando Amorebieta is set to join Boro on a permenant deal - will be confirmed Monday.
Quote from: jayffc on August 28, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
I try not to judge players too harshly before seeing them play for us but Bakary Kone appears to be the Titus Bramble of Ligue 1 in that no one can believe he's managed to maintain a career in a top league and he's prone to numerous ridiculous elaborate errors... just from a brief look through twitter you can see how people feel about him. Parody videos of him from fans pretending to make him look good and advertise him for sale at 10mil (tongue in cheek) funny vine reaction videos of players who are joining Lyon finding out they might have to play alongside Kone etc - tweets from Lyon fans across the board rejoicing at his departure all over the place - a real laughing stock in the French league by all accounts. Worrying if true, would rather Mancienne or Stearman by the looks of things!
Quote from: Northern Cottager on August 28, 2015, 02:21:37 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on August 28, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Boro News and Info @boronewsmfc 15m15 minutes ago
Fernando Amorebieta is set to join Boro on a permenant deal - will be confirmed Monday.
There is a god!
Quote from: BedsFFC on August 28, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
Do you think he is eligible for tomorrow?
Quote from: ollienixs on August 28, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
Still feel eve if we bring in a new cb we are not good enough up top to cause problems and ultimately means we are back defending again
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Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
Quote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 07:59:50 PMQuote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
Quote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 07:59:50 PMQuote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 28, 2015, 08:42:14 PMQuote from: Ordar on August 28, 2015, 07:59:50 PMQuote from: Swiss72 on August 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
A lot of comments in France telling FFC is getting mugged with Kone.... From various foot radio shows like RMC. Doesn't bode well.
here's what I think. This guy has played regular first team football for one of the best teams in France and played regularly in the Champions League. If he was such a bad player, surely given how good Lyon are, they wouldnt have played him regularly for the past 4 years
Also if he did sign here, he'd be taking a significant drop in the quality of opposition he's playing against. Maybe he's not good enough for CL football according to some Lyon fans, but surely he's good enough for the Championship
We also have no idea how the player will translate into a new league. Amorebieta had legit credentials. He played for like a decade in La Liga and as an international. He was terrible here.
Lyon fans might think Kone is terrible, and he might be great for us. I don't recall German fans thinking much of Sascha Riether when he came to us, and he was probably the club's player of the year in his first season.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 29, 2015, 02:44:31 PM
Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Who is Kenny? Affiliated with Wolves I'd imagine, but....
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 29, 2015, 02:21:19 PM
Srearman not in Wolves team - gossip says fee agreed with Fulham.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 29, 2015, 02:48:22 PMQuote from: f321ffc on August 29, 2015, 02:44:31 PM
Tim Spiers @tim_spiers_Star 19m19 minutes ago
We'll get the official word on Stearman from Kenny afterwards but am told Fulham have bid £2m and it's been accepted.
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Who is Kenny? Affiliated with Wolves I'd imagine, but....
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 02:50:04 PM
Stearman is a solid defender, so him and Kone are they 2 or the 3? do we need 2 centre backs
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 29, 2015, 03:05:18 PMlol, if he didnt want to come he wouldnt
From a big poster on Molineux Mix:
"Stearman has been sold to Fulham.
£1m plus £1m add on.4 year deal,double his wages.
Impeccable source."
Later the same guy also said:
"Stearman didn't want to go either btw."
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 02:55:37 PMQuote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 02:50:04 PM
Stearman is a solid defender, so him and Kone are they 2 or the 3? do we need 2 centre backs
I think it'll be the one more defender.
Right backs: Ashley Richards, Kay Voser
Centre backs: Richard Stearman, Tim Ream, Shaun Hutchinson, Dan Burn
Left backs: James Husband, Sean Kavanagh
That's without including Nikolay Bodurov and injured Luke Garbutt and Jack Grimmer. Plus Kay Voser can cover both full back positions, Tim Ream frequently used a left back, Richards could shuffle over to the left if need be.
That's a strong group of defenders in my opinion.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 29, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
Still need a new striker and wing man to take the pressure off the defence and allow us to stretch others rather than being stretched
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Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 29, 2015, 04:06:25 PMQuote from: ollienixs on August 29, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
Still need a new striker and wing man to take the pressure off the defence and allow us to stretch others rather than being stretched
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Would love to secure Gayle and Yedlin on loan to play RW.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 05:22:37 PMthink it was wolves gaffer not kit
well if kit has admitted bid accepted in public, then this deal has got to be very close.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 29, 2015, 05:24:28 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 05:22:37 PMthink it was wolves gaffer not kit
well if kit has admitted bid accepted in public, then this deal has got to be very close.
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 29, 2015, 05:27:16 PM
Fair to say that Wolves' fans aren't pleased.
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=94398&page=7 (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=94398&page=7)
Quote from: ollienixs on August 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
French media saying in advance talks with kone
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 29, 2015, 05:52:45 PM
The Fulham dressing room will be bursting with talented players.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 05:55:39 PMSo what has Kit done wrong today?Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 29, 2015, 05:52:45 PM
The Fulham dressing room will be bursting with talented players.
yes but we need the right manager to make the most of them.
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
A full back is on his way... I'll leave it as that.
Quote from: grandad on August 29, 2015, 06:01:01 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 05:55:39 PMSo what has Kit done wrong today?Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 29, 2015, 05:52:45 PM
The Fulham dressing room will be bursting with talented players.
yes but we need the right manager to make the most of them.
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
A full back is on his way... I'll leave it as that.
Quote from: mkras99 on August 29, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 29, 2015, 06:48:01 PM
If I was to hazard a guess and it is just a guess I would say the players vulnerable to a transfer out on deadline day through competition for their position and or the start they have made I would go for
Voser
Hutchinson on loan
Kacaniklic
Hyndman
Taggart
Can't see anyone else leaving and I can't see Kavanagh receiving interest for a loan. Not all of those will go but I would say they are the question marks for me especially if we sign Mancienne and Stearman
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 07:28:21 AM
Forestieri to Wednesday for 3 million apparently
Quote from: os5889 mkII on August 29, 2015, 06:59:05 PMQuote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 07:28:21 AM
Forestieri to Wednesday for 3 million apparently
May have missed it but yes, this is a confirmed transfer.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 29, 2015, 06:48:55 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 29, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
could be, this is what bristol city manager said today-
"He's leaving us for personal reasons and will be joining another London club. He's having a medical today and will join the club for the same fee that we paid for him.'
Quote from: mkras99 on August 29, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
Probably Ryan Fredericks if I had to guess.
Alistair Mackintosh on train back from #rufc he says Kone and Stearman plus an unnamed striker to join Fulham before window shuts #ffc
— TomRogers FFC. (@TomRogers24) August 29, 2015
Quote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 09:27:10 PMthought he was a free agent
Ryan Fredericks will join Fulham for £175k.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 29, 2015, 09:32:30 PMQuote from: FPT on August 29, 2015, 09:27:10 PMthought he was a free agent
Ryan Fredericks will join Fulham for £175k.
Quote from: f321ffc on August 29, 2015, 09:33:09 PMi didnt think you could be registered with 3 different clubs in one season
The unnamed London club Ryan Fredericks is set to join from #bristolcity 26 days after leaving Spurs is Fulham #ffc
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Quote from: Berserker on August 30, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
Why does Frederick want to change, bit odd.
Quote from: Berserker on August 30, 2015, 09:57:18 AMhe said it was personal reasons
Why does Frederick want to change, bit odd.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 30, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
Some mentions of Gary hooper on Twitter, we've gone from 66/1 to 2/5 over the weekend. Could be the unnamed striker?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AMthink that is because we are in for hooper and they thought they had the deal done. Wednesday are loaded though.
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:21:49 AM
Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Quote from: FFC73 on August 30, 2015, 11:56:27 AMGayle won't drop a division whilst he is scoring in the prem. Another prem team will take himQuote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Personally, and I now I am possibly alone here, if true I would take the money for Ross and run and invest it in a younger, fitter, faster no9.
I do not think we will make promotion (or challenge for it) with Ross as our mainstay striker. Even if we did make the Premiership then we would likely as not have to sell Ross back down to the Championship. His contract extension for me was a mistake. Yes Ross is effective for us but take his penalties and free kicks away from his goal tally (someone else can contribute those) and he does not score enough from open play as he spends to much time playing deep.
£10m could buy Gayle and our mid-field can do the creative stuff that Ross insists on getting involved with. 090.gif
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Quote from: FFC73 on August 30, 2015, 11:56:27 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Sheffield Wednesday are reported to have offered 10 million quid for Ross McCormack - Fulham are reportedly not interested.
Personally, and I now I am possibly alone here, if true I would take the money for Ross and run and invest it in a younger, fitter, faster no9.
I do not think we will make promotion (or challenge for it) with Ross as our mainstay striker. Even if we did make the Premiership then we would likely as not have to sell Ross back down to the Championship. His contract extension for me was a mistake. Yes Ross is effective for us but take his penalties and free kicks away from his goal tally (someone else can contribute those) and he does not score enough from open play as he spends to much time playing deep.
£10m could buy Gayle and our mid-field can do the creative stuff that Ross insists on getting involved with. 090.gif
I shoot myself now to save you all the trouble
Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PMsurely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PMWe are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PMsurely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 01:34:39 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PMWe are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PMsurely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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Quote from: FFC73 on August 30, 2015, 01:47:14 PMQuote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 01:34:39 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PMWe are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PMsurely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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How are we short when Smith is fit again?
Hugo = Smith (when fit) & they sort of dove tailed last year anyway
Mitro? how do you replace something you never had? with Taggart?
Ruiz = Crainey
Ross = rumoured replacement
Woodrow & Dembele are a year older and better
4 (in no particular order) of Woodrow, Dembele, Smith and Ross' replacement for 2015/16
Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 01:34:39 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PMWe are already in for one striker irrespective of Ross, so just one needed. Dembele and Woodrow are fine as two of the four.Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2015, 12:18:17 PMsurely we would need 2 in. Losing Ross Hugo and Mitro in one go with only one coming in would leave us well short
Amy sale of Ross this close to the window would be like a house chain.
We would only sell if we had the next one lined up.
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:21:49 AM
Why do boro get fernando amore for a season yet we get husband for a month. Someone wasn't thinking
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Quote from: mkras99 on August 30, 2015, 01:57:54 PM
@SkySportsLyall: Ryan Fredericks is undergoing a medical at #FulhamFC after a deal was agreed with #BristolCity #FFC More follows.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 02:00:15 PMQuote from: mkras99 on August 30, 2015, 01:57:54 PM
@SkySportsLyall: Ryan Fredericks is undergoing a medical at #FulhamFC after a deal was agreed with #BristolCity #FFC More follows.
Interesting, a replacement for the injured Grimmer? Or a real threat to the position?
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 02:12:32 PMselling him would pee me off more than it would selling Ross
FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2015, 02:57:46 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 02:12:32 PMselling him would pee me off more than it would selling Ross
FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 30, 2015, 03:06:42 PM
Not seen it on here, but may have missed it, apparently we've made a £2.5m bid for Erik Sviatchenko from FC Midtjylland.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3iy6lt/norwich_and_fulham_submit_25m_bids_for/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3iy6lt/norwich_and_fulham_submit_25m_bids_for/)
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2015, 02:12:32 PM
FULHAM reject 500K bid for Dembele from Genoa
Quote from: PeterFFC on August 30, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
If a bid of +£12M comes in I'd sell him.
If we can get that money upfront I feel we could genuinely bring in a striker of similar quality and have money left over to improve elsewhere or to save for January
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 10:15:48 PMNot sure I understand this posting
Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Quote from: westcliff white on August 30, 2015, 10:32:35 PMQuote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 10:15:48 PMNot sure I understand this posting
Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on August 30, 2015, 10:42:51 PMCheers Hillingdon, I've had a bottle of red and thought maybe it was me.Quote from: westcliff white on August 30, 2015, 10:32:35 PMQuote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 10:15:48 PMNot sure I understand this posting
Twitter is rife with rumours that hey are looking to tie up deals got Kenwyn jones and by draw tomorrow and not a lot ok ross mc
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Reading Twitter I think that means Sheff Wed hoping to snap up Vydra and Kenwyne Jones Tuesday instead of McCormack
Quote from: @jolslover on August 30, 2015, 10:30:09 PM
Hoilett has been made avaliable on a free by QPR, would anyone take him? I would, Pacey winger who didnt have the best time at QPR but there is clearly a decent footballer there somewhere
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 09:57:52 PM
Casasola has joined roma
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Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2015, 11:34:01 PM
He was also mustard at Blackburn so the boy has promise
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Quote from: Ordar on August 31, 2015, 08:58:32 AM7Transformation
It makes me laugh how people where clamouring for Lewis Dunk, who I expect 90% of people has probably only seen play against us, who lets face it has only had 1 decent season in the second tier of English football, and Kone who has been regularly playing in the top flight of French football and in the champions league for the second best team in France is seen as not good enough for us.
Do people think better players are at championship clubs than Lyon? Surely Lyon would have been after Dunk if that were the case.
As I said before, maybe Lyon fans don't think Kone is good enough for CL football, but surely there is a massive step down from Lyon to championship teams
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 09:54:56 AMWHY HAVEN'T A BETTER TEAM COME IN FOR HIM? I think you are confused DB! I shall be keeping an eye on you!! :(
I look at it this way, a player who plays in European leagues or CL coming to Fulham in the championship. And a club willing to sell them to us for peanuts suggests to me they are not that great. Let's be honest if they were that great they would be signing for a premier league club , the champs league on their CV paints a false picture in many cases.
Voser Amorebieta and Hoogland. Are they really any better than a solid championship player. I feel you know what you get with a stearman or a dunk and they tend to be less of a risk. Kone might come off but I would suggest if he was that good for just 2 million why haven't a better team come in for him? And why is he so keen on a downgraded move?
Comparing Messi isn't really relevant because he wouldn't ever come here. I know you said it was an extreme example but I think the comparison has to be more realistic if it's to be a valid point in this debate. But having said all that, fulham do tend to find gems from abroad so fingers crossed he turns out to be good. I won't criticise any player until I've seen them play
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 31, 2015, 10:06:31 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 09:54:56 AMWHY HAVEN'T A BETTER TEAM COME IN FOR HIM? I think you are confused DB! I shall be keeping an eye on you!! :(
I look at it this way, a player who plays in European leagues or CL coming to Fulham in the championship. And a club willing to sell them to us for peanuts suggests to me they are not that great. Let's be honest if they were that great they would be signing for a premier league club , the champs league on their CV paints a false picture in many cases.
Voser Amorebieta and Hoogland. Are they really any better than a solid championship player. I feel you know what you get with a stearman or a dunk and they tend to be less of a risk. Kone might come off but I would suggest if he was that good for just 2 million why haven't a better team come in for him? And why is he so keen on a downgraded move?
Comparing Messi isn't really relevant because he wouldn't ever come here. I know you said it was an extreme example but I think the comparison has to be more realistic if it's to be a valid point in this debate. But having said all that, fulham do tend to find gems from abroad so fingers crossed he turns out to be good. I won't criticise any player until I've seen them play
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AMthat's incorrect, they can still sell players but not sign after their respective deadlines, a good example of this is Russian and turkish clubs signing UK based players after the deadline as theirs is a few days later and has been for the last few windows
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:43:50 AMhopefully means Mancienne and Stearman are close to completion
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 31, 2015, 10:47:15 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
Is that official then about Kone? I don't know the first thing about Twitter so I rely on you guys for these 'in the know' updates. Where did you hear the deals off?
L'equipe who reported the deal in the first place now reporting its off, they're usually correct by the sound of it.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 10:46:10 AMQuote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AMthat's incorrect, they can still sell players but not sign after their respective deadlines, a good example of this is Russian and turkish clubs signing UK based players after the deadline as theirs is a few days later and has been for the last few windows
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 31, 2015, 10:49:09 AM
We have far too many Kones on the M25, we don't need another one.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 31, 2015, 10:25:09 AMQuote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Well tomorrow we will not be signing players from Germany, Italy,France, Holland, Russia & Spain as their windows shut at various times today.
That still leaves plenty other countries I can hardly pronounce let alone spell.
Don't quote me on it but I think their deadlines mean they can't sign players. For example Madrid have to tie up De Gea today but we could still sign Bale tomorrow. Or Kone..........whatever floats your boat
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
Quote from: FPT on August 31, 2015, 12:53:25 PMQuote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
+1.
They are damaging careers by contracting a tonne of players and farming them around the world.
Quote from: grandad on August 31, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
Victor Moses could be going to W. Ham on loan. The chap has spent the last 2 seasons out on loan.Why on earth did the Blue Poo buy him in the first place. Feel sorry that he has been pushed around with them having no intention of playing him. They have another 29 out on loan. This stockpiling has to be stopped.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 31, 2015, 01:27:40 PMSaid fee agreed and he was discussing a contract, for me far form done as rumour is he doesn't want to leave Wolves as he is settled in the area. Although I am taking the fact the Kone deal is off means Stearman or Manicienne are basically done, although I expect to get both of themQuote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 31, 2015, 01:27:40 PMconfirmed a bid was excepted. Lot of talk that he doesn't want to leave, and 48 hours later, still no newsQuote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 01:40:29 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 31, 2015, 01:27:40 PMconfirmed a bid was excepted. Lot of talk that he doesn't want to leave, and 48 hours later, still no newsQuote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 01:48:00 PMIt's sad that we even have an asking price
Been reported that Fulhams asking price for Dembele is putting French clubs off.
Quote from: FPT on August 31, 2015, 01:47:42 PMby that theory, we won't sign anyone who we didn't have a bid accepted for by Saturday.Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 01:40:29 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 31, 2015, 01:27:40 PMconfirmed a bid was excepted. Lot of talk that he doesn't want to leave, and 48 hours later, still no newsQuote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 01:21:33 PM
All quiet on te stearman front
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be surprised if this one did not happen. wolves manager all but confirmed it in public.
This was always to be a late today, early tomorrow one. Needed to travel down here, discuss contract and undergo medical.
Thats all whilst we've got Ryan Fredericks in doing his stuff and trying to work on other deals.
Nothing to worry about.
Quote from: Nathan_ffc on August 31, 2015, 03:25:37 PM
Junior Hoillett can leave qpr on a free. With no transfer fee involved surely he's worth a punt? Would certainly help with pace and width. Thoughts?
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
Quote from: kiwiwaka on August 31, 2015, 03:56:10 PMPlumain is 20. Another year at under 21 level will not benefit him. 1st team football will, even if it is in the French second divison.Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
What? It's a good move for both. If he won't be in our first team, it's better he plays good competitive first team football than for the development squad.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 01:51:03 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 01:48:00 PMIt's sad that we even have an asking price
Been reported that Fulhams asking price for Dembele is putting French clubs off.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 04:10:06 PMfor me they are both needed, would mean after Garbutt (and Husbands leaves unless we extend the loan) that we have 2 players who can cover at left back in Mancienne and Ream
I am hoping that Fredericks wasn't one of the 3 we have heard about, hoping they are Spearman, Mancienne and a striker with non of our first teamers leaving
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 04:19:18 PMDon't think he can be it was wolves decision to sell, Jackett said as much
Really hope Stearman isn't playing us in the hope of getting a contract rise at Wolves
Quote from: mkras99 on August 31, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko 8m8 minutes ago
Forest want 2.5m for Michael Mancienne. Fulham not at that number.
Quote from: kiwiwaka on August 31, 2015, 03:56:10 PMQuote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Plumain has joined Red Star in France for a year on loan. The culling of our youth continues!
What? It's a good move for both. If he won't be in our first team, it's better he plays good competitive first team football than for the development squad.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 05:11:15 PMhave you been reading tiff?
McCormack to Norwich for 12 million?
Quote from: Craven Mad on August 31, 2015, 05:49:52 PMhere we go. Bet this stops us signing stearman
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 31, 2015, 05:49:52 PMhere we go. Bet this stops us signing searman
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
17:43 BREAKING: Jean-Michel Aulas threatens action against Fulham
Jean-Michel Aulas has threatened to take Fulham to FIFA for going back on an agreement for the transfer of Bakary Kone.
The outspoken Frenchman has claimed:
"There was a disagreement with the club, but for us Kone is a Fulham player."
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on August 31, 2015, 05:49:52 PMhere we go. Bet this stops us signing stearman
Kone situation looking strange. Lyon saying papers are signed and he's our player, we're saying deal's off...
Looks like it could go to the lawyers!
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 31, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Jelle Vossen has signed for Club Brugge - two months after signing for Burnley. Another weird one.
Quote from: ollienixs on August 31, 2015, 07:02:33 PMSky Bet have us a 18/1
Our odds of get rhodes have been cut.
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:08:23 PM
Conners ن @Conradffc 15m15 minutes ago
@WhiteNoise1879 Just a couple more things of some websites, Lyon pres said that a deal had been officially signed after passing all medicals
Quote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Quote from: Arthur on August 31, 2015, 07:31:48 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Kone, Stearman, Mancienne, Fredericks, Ream, Husband, Richards, Garbutt, Lonergan, Lewis.
Do we take it that Kit's finally got fed up of being accused of not sorting out the defence?
Quote from: Arthur on August 31, 2015, 07:31:48 PMQuote from: fulhamben on August 31, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Is their any proof that we don't actually want Kone?
Kone, Stearman, Mancienne, Fredericks, Ream, Husband, Richards, Garbutt, Lonergan, Lewis.
Do we take it that Kit's finally got fed up of being accused of not sorting out the defence?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PMif he hadn't finished his medical why did he leave? silly boy, what do Lyon expect?
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 07:34:58 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PMif he hadn't finished his medical why did he leave? silly boy, what do Lyon expect?
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
Quote from: horse1031 on August 31, 2015, 07:41:38 PMthat maybe the case but if the club say he had more tests to do then he hasn't finished it and no deal is complete without a successfully completed medical as we know.Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 07:34:58 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PMif he hadn't finished his medical why did he leave? silly boy, what do Lyon expect?
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
i dont think we want him and are trying to find a loophole? I would not be sad if we missed out on this guy.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 31, 2015, 07:30:12 PM
Aulas says "this has been good for two days and that he will resort to courts and FIFA's arbitrage if necessary. Legislation in OL's favor"
He claims that "OL has a perfect contract". Can't exactly blame Fulham for not wanting him... But his career is ruined at Lyon & there, now.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
Dan Burn to Sheffield United - gossip reports.
Quote from: horse1031 on August 31, 2015, 08:38:04 PMI heard hutch is off on loan to Sheff UtdQuote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
Dan Burn to Sheffield United - gossip reports.
hmmmmmmm
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 31, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
Dan Burn to Sheffield United - gossip reports.
Quote from: westcliff white on August 31, 2015, 09:42:20 PM
Norwich sign Mbokani (An FFC target under Jol) on loan, must mean they are letting someone go
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2015, 01:32:33 AM
Yedlin still waiting on a loan. Would be the RW/RM option we need to have a full on competition for time on the left between Kaka and Pringle.
Come on Fulham! We need some real speed within the team.
Quote from: Asotosyios on September 01, 2015, 01:35:48 AMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 01, 2015, 01:32:33 AM
Yedlin still waiting on a loan. Would be the RW/RM option we need to have a full on competition for time on the left between Kaka and Pringle.
Come on Fulham! We need some real speed within the team.
I can't see that happening, especially after signing Fredericks. He would only be a backup for Cairney, unless we started using Cairney behind the striker.
Quote from: Pluto on September 01, 2015, 12:24:25 AMout of contract at end of the season, tribunal will issue less than a million, that's the dilemma, rumour is though he is now discussing a new deal with us as well
Lol 1m for Dembele? Pretty sure we paid £1m for him when he was 16!
Quote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2015, 09:32:06 AMpumping it up to smith wasn't working and it didn't work last season either.
I think we are moving away from the target man out last 2 games have been good performances playing without a target
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 09:57:59 AMwith a 2 million pound loan fee
Sky sources understand Watford's Matej Vydra is joining Reading on a season-long loan.
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2015, 09:59:37 AMwhich is why I think we are moving away form it, we look more fluid and competent the last 2 gamesQuote from: westcliff white on September 01, 2015, 09:32:06 AMpumping it up to smith wasn't working and it didn't work last season either.
I think we are moving away from the target man out last 2 games have been good performances playing without a target
Quote from: kempkong on September 01, 2015, 10:50:11 AMlets hope he sticks around for the second part of it
Stearman undergoing a medical
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Quote from: jayffc on September 01, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
Would like to keep Burn as cover, better than Bodurov who we seem to be offloading can't keep both on the books!
Palace reject Gayle bid from Villa according to sky, think we can write this one off unfortunately, think a prem club will stump up the cash. Most we can hope for is a last minute loan if no one matched their price, though with them selling Murray (they have agreed a fee with Bournemouth) they may well want to hold on to him.
Hooper it is? Would have preferred someone with pace in honesty but decent enough scoring pedigree at this level.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on September 01, 2015, 11:45:51 AMI would like some pace too, however we are not in the betting now for GayleQuote from: jayffc on September 01, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
Would like to keep Burn as cover, better than Bodurov who we seem to be offloading can't keep both on the books!
Palace reject Gayle bid from Villa according to sky, think we can write this one off unfortunately, think a prem club will stump up the cash. Most we can hope for is a last minute loan if no one matched their price, though with them selling Murray (they have agreed a fee with Bournemouth) they may well want to hold on to him.
Hooper it is? Would have preferred someone with pace in honesty but decent enough scoring pedigree at this level.
Im hoping against hope that Fulham can do something with Gayle. Would much prefer him to Hooper, pace is something we have a chronic lack of
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2015, 11:35:25 AM
Anyone think we could be working our way towards a flexible 3-5-2 sort of formation?
With Ream a CB/LB, Mancienne a CB/RB, Fredricks being a RB/RM and Husband and LB/LM, could work well...
How we could look next game:
(http://i59.tinypic.com/nb6xyd.png)
And - without subs - could change to something like:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2nsuafp.png)
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on September 01, 2015, 12:40:51 PMI can see them selling both and getting Austin in
Glenn Murray possibly leaving palace so doubt Gayle will leave too.
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 11:42:11 AM
I'm personally not that bothered if Burn goes. I know some people like him, but top end of League 1 is probably his level.
Quote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
Are we being strongly linked to any strikers? I've not seen anything myself
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 01, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
Any news on the Kone 'deal'?
Quote from: FPT on September 01, 2015, 02:23:43 PMQuote from: Ordar on September 01, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
Are we being strongly linked to any strikers? I've not seen anything myself
Seems Gary Hooper is now our option. Matej Vydra heading to Reading (£2m loan fee), Dwight Gayle seemingly not being allowed to leave (though Aston Villa apparently sniffing, had a "stupid" offer rejected).
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on September 01, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
I just pray we keep hold of Ross, that's all I care about right now
Quote from: Swiss72 on September 01, 2015, 03:22:47 PMthink that's 2 mil and wages
Vydra seems to be heading to Reading (!!) in a £3.5m loan package deal. Would have preferred him to Hooper to be honnest.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 04:51:40 PM
Larnell Cole has gone the Shrewsbury until Jan of next year on loan.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 04:53:09 PM
Dan Burn is likely to be staying at Fulham
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 04:56:33 PMthey are getting gayle
Norwich still having trouble bringing in a striker. May be a problem, may not be for us and Hooper.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
Taggert has joined Dundee Utc on loan until January
Surely wouldn't go if we were not bringing in somebody?
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY THAT IS IT - OFFICIAL
Shame about Hooper but great window.
Quote from: Northern Cottager on September 01, 2015, 05:57:58 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY THAT IS IT - OFFICIAL
Shame about Hooper but great window.
Oh man, really wanted another striker. Rely too much on Ross...
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2015, 06:11:36 PMNot sure Palace did want someone else, I have heard it was what they wanted to pay. Apparently they have signed a deal intent form so it could still happen before 8pm.
Norwich wanted Gayle, Palace wanted a replacement and couldn't find one and so Norwich couldn't push through Hooper. So the domino effect.
Quote from: Andyb on September 09, 2015, 07:50:57 PMNope, overrated probably more than any player in the last five years.
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
Quote from: MJG on September 09, 2015, 08:03:58 PMQuote from: Andyb on September 09, 2015, 07:50:57 PMNope, overrated probably more than any player in the last five years.
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on September 09, 2015, 08:11:28 PMCase restedQuote from: MJG on September 09, 2015, 08:03:58 PMQuote from: Andyb on September 09, 2015, 07:50:57 PMNope, overrated probably more than any player in the last five years.
Urby Emanuelson on a free anyone....
. . . and he has done nothing since he left us in the summer of 2013 just playing 7 league games:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urby_Emanuelson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urby_Emanuelson)
Quote from: ollienixs on September 09, 2015, 09:53:38 PMHe hasn't joined yet, Derby along with 12 other clubs are interested, good club for him though Derby play some good football.
Wilson is joint derby from United m
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Quote from: mkras99 on September 09, 2015, 09:37:21 PMHooper would be a great loan signing imo (him or Gayle, but feel Hooper is more likely - won't be disappointed if wrong)
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-loan-move-for-norwich-city-striker-after-emergency-loan-window-opens/#GoqCJksU0WWxhXwf.97 (http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fulham-considering-loan-move-for-norwich-city-striker-after-emergency-loan-window-opens/#GoqCJksU0WWxhXwf.97)
Quote from: God The Mechanic on September 09, 2015, 08:44:06 PM
He's played 35 in the league and 44 in all competitions according to that. Not great obviously, but not 7 league games in 2 years bad. In fact, it's really only last season that he didn't get games - and that was at a club who were challenging for the Serie A title, something we're not.
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2015, 10:58:47 PMMe too.
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2015, 10:58:47 PM
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
Quote from: The Moose on September 09, 2015, 10:59:47 PMQuote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2015, 10:58:47 PMMe too.
The only striker I would take that would be a massive improvement on Mouss is Gayle or Ulloa. Hooper would be decent but at the same time I think Moussa needs a run of games
